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Senate Committee on Finance · October 21, 2026

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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The hearing of the Committee on Finance, Finance Subcommittee G, is hereby called to order.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Our hearing today is the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Agriculture, its attached agencies and corporations. We would like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Erwin Tulfo. And may we now call on our Committee Secretary, Attorney Philip Lina, to acknowledge and place on record our resource persons for today.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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You have the floor, Attorney Lina.

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Committee Secretary

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Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Senator Tulfo. In attendance in this budget briefing of the Department of Agriculture are the following: Secretary Francisco Tiu Laurel Jr.; Attorney Asis G. Perez, Undersecretary for Policy Planning and Regulations; Engineer Roger V. Navarro, Undersecretary for Operations and Agri-Fisheries Mechanization.

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Committee Secretary

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Nora C. Oliveros, Undersecretary for Finance; Carlos C. Carrag, Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement; Engineer Christopher V. Morales, Undersecretary for Rice Industry Development.

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Committee Secretary

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Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad Caballero, Undersecretary for High Value Crops; Constante J. Palabrica, Undersecretary for Livestock.

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Committee Secretary

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Ari A. Perez, Undersecretary for Agro-Marine Industrial Systems.

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Telma C. Tolentino, Assistant Secretary for Finance,

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Daniel Alfonso N. Aitaydi, Assistant Secretary for Logistics,

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Atty. Genevieve E. Villicaria-Guivara,

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Committee Secretary

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Assistant Secretary for Agribusiness, Marketing and Consumer Affairs,

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Committee Secretary

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and for Legislative Affairs and DLLO,

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Atty. Joycel R. Panlilio, Assistant Secretary for High-Value Crops,

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Committee Secretary

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and Saqib Saka and Intellectual Property Rights.

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Committee Secretary

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From the Bureaus, Elisir S. Salilig,

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Committee Secretary

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Director, Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources.

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From the Department of Budget and Management,

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Committee Secretary

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Gemma G. Ilagan, Director for,

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Committee Secretary

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from the Commission on Audit,

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Committee Secretary

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Viuli Q. Molina,

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Committee Secretary

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Lorelay M. Placido,

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Committee Secretary

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and Velvet Chiqui M. Manalo,

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Committee Secretary

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and other invited guests,

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Committee Secretary

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Director Lourdes Aganon,

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the DBM Director for Organization,

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Position Classification and Compensation Bureau,

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Committee Secretary

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Helen Holgado, also from the same service,

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Committee Secretary

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Timothy Solomon, People's Budget Coalition.

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Committee Secretary

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That's all for now, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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Committee Secretary

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Thank you.

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Committee Secretary

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Mr. Ken Abante, from the People's Budget Coalition.

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Committee Secretary

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Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Thank you very much, Atty. Phillip, our Comsec.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Magandang umaga sa kanilang lahat.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Ang warning ng pag-asa na posibleng magpatuloy hanggang first half ng 2027

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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ang napakalakas na El Niño.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Tinataya naman ng DA na maaaring mabawasa,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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ng mga 700,000 metric tons ang palay production sa second half ng taon

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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dahil sa strong El Nino at iba pang weather-related shocks.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Banta rin ang matinding init at water shortage sa mga livestock, fishpond, at fisheries.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Dahil sa mga babalang ito, kailangang paglaanan ng karampatang budget ang irigasyon,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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imbakan ng tubig, gayon din ang paglalaan para sa agarang tulong sa ating mga magsasaka at mangingisda

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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na ngayon pa lamang ay pinsala na ang inaabot o nararamdaman o nararanasan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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By our calculation, ang pagkawala ng 700,000 metric tons

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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ng palay ay sapat para sa taonang pangangailangan sa bigas ng tinatayang 3.6 million na mga kababayan natin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Isang mahalagang hakbang para sa buong bansa ang pag-aproba sa P171.3 billion na inilalaan ng Department of Agriculture for 2027.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Ang national budget na ito ang gagamitin para tuloy.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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na makapagtanim at makapagpangisda ang ating mga magsasaka at mangingisda

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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para merong sapat na supply ang ating mga pamilyan at makakayanan ng pamilyang Pilipino ang kanilang susunod na kakainin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Isipin natin itong budget na parang paghahanda sa isang malaking salu-salu sa hapagkainan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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At ang iba't ibang ahensya ng DA,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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ang ating mga kusinero at bawat isa ay may mahalagang tungkulin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Bigas, gulay, livestock, isda, storage, distribution.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Kailangan tiyakin ng DA na iisa ang sinusunod na plano ng lahat.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Hindi problema ang maraming kusinero, problema kapag walang koordinasyon.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Kulang-kulang ang mga sangkap at ikanga pagtulong.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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O pagdating ng damo, napatay na ang kabayo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Yan ang hamon para kay Secretary ka-tukayo, Kiko Laurel.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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The urgency is already measurable.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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6.87 billion pesos in drought losses.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Wala pa yung pinaka-impact ng Super El Nino as of September 26.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Yet, as of October 6, assistance medyo nagkukulang.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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2.53 million ang natulungan sa target beneficiaries na 11.2 million.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Ang tanong din, hindi ba dapat dahil limang regyon na ang tinatamaan ng El Nino

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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base sa datos ng DA, hindi ba dapat magdeklara na ng National State of Calamity

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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ang ating national government?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Para magkaroon na ng dagdag na suporta at pondo dahil nga narito na ang El Nino.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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If I recall correctly, El Nino is already damaging crops and livelihoods in Region 2,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Region 5, CALABARZON,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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SOCCSKSARGEN, Region 2, and one more, and Region 5.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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So that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 of 13 regions.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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I believe the Executive Department should seriously consider a State of Calamity Declaration

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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so that we can better address the challenge.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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of the Super El Nino.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Dapat maging sentro ng 2027 budget ang tubig at irigasyon.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Pero tatalakayin pa rin natin ang iba pang mga issue ng Departamento.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Yung underutilized funds in the 2026 budget, agriculture smuggling,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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agri-impact ng tuloy-tuloy pa rin gulo sa gitnang silangan, ang Iran-US-Israel war,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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ang taripa sa ating...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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pork imports, mga farm-to-market roads, yung problema sa delay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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sa pag-implementa ng food hubs, among others.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Pakinggan po natin ang presentasyon.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Thank you, Secretary Kiko, for your presence and your leadership in the Department of Agriculture.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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We are ready to hear your presentation.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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But before that, we give the floor to Senator Erwin Tulfo for his opening statement.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Ah, mahal na Chairman, Senator Kiko Pangilinan, si Agriculture Secretary Kiko Laurel, Jr.,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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mga kasamahan sa pamahalaan, mga kababayan, magandang umaga po sa ating lahat.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Ngayong araw, ating tatalakay ng panukalang budget ng Department of Agriculture

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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at ng mga attached agencies and corporations nito para sa taong 2027.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Agrikultura po ay isa sa pinakamahalagang sektor ng ating ekonomiya.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Dito, nakasalalay po ang ating pagkain, kabuhayan, ng milyong-milyong magsisakat,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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mangingisda, at sa presyo ng pagkain sa hapag ng bawat Pilipinong pamilya.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Under the 2027 NEP, the DA family has proposed total budget of around 198.4 billion pesos,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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composed approximately of 196.9 billion pesos in new appropriations

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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and 1.5 billion pesos in automatic appropriations.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Under House Bill No. 108.58,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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itinaas po ito sa 210 billion pesos with 208.5 billion in new appropriations.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Sa pagginig po nating umaga, nais nating malinawan sa ilang mahalagang usapin.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Una, ang agricultural smuggling.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Noong nakarang taon, nasaksihan natin ang ating mga hearings sa pangunguna nga po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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ng ating chairman, Sen. Kiko Pangilinan,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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kung paano po nagturuan ng DA, Bureau of Customs, at ilang law enforcement agencies.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Kung sino ang pananagutan sa paghawak, pag-iingat, at pag-dispose o pagsira

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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ng mga nakumpiskang smuggled agricultural products.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Nalinaw na po ba kung saan nagsisimula at nagtatapos ang mandato ng bawat ahensya?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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May malinaw na ba ang chain of custody at accountability upang hindi na maulit pang muli ang ganitong kalituhan?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Ikalawa, ang karapatan po ng ating maliliit na mangingisda.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Naging malaking usapin din po sa 2023 decision ng RTC Malabon sa kaso ng Mercedar Fishing Corporation

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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na may malaking implikasyon sa pagpasok ng commercial fishing vessels sa 15-kilometer municipal waters.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Isa sa mga nakitang problema rito ay ang procedural lapses ng BIFAR.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Kagagaling ko lamang po sa Mimaropa kahapon, sa Marinduque, Romblon, Mindoro, at Palacios.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Inawan, iisa po ang sigaw ng mga magsasaka o mangingisda.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Wala na pong nakukuhang isda dahil kinuha na po ng malaking kumpanyang ito ang kanilang dapat sana ihuli.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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They are being forced to go out.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Milya-milya po ang layo para lamang makakuha ng isda.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Samantalang, ang mga fishing companies, ito, corporation na ito, ay hindi na kailangan lumayo pa

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para ikang mangisda at makakuha ng maraming isda.

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Ang tanong natin, ano ang ginagawa ng BIFAR upang maitama ang mga pagkukulang at maprotektahan ang kabuhayan ng mga maliliit nating mangingisda?

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Ay katlo, rice production.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Tayo ay isang agricultural country.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Dito po matatagpuan ang International Rice Research Institute.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Ngunit nananatili tayong number one importer ng bigas sa buong mundo.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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During Marshall Law po, tayo po ay exporter.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Ngayon, tayo na po ang importer.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Hindi ba't malaking kabalintunaan ito?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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May lupa tayo, may mga magsasaka, may teknolohiya at mga eksperto.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Ngunit, bakit hindi pa rin natin matugunan ang sarili nating pangangailangan sa bigas?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Kailangan pa natin, ikanga, humingi ng tulong at kumuha sa ibang bansa.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Ano ang konkretong plano po ng DEA umang mapataas ang lokal na produksyon at mabawasan ang ating pagdidepende sa importasyon?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Ikaapat, ang kalagayan po ng ating mga magsasaka, marami pong lumalapit sa aming tanggapan na nagre-reklamo sa napakamahal na presyo ng abono at napakamababang farmgate price ng palay.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Habang hirap na hirap kumita ang ating magsasaka, may mga middlemen at negosyanteng nagpapatong ng napakalaking tubo bago makarating ang produkto sa ating mga mamimili.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Dalawang beses na talo ang Pilipino.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Lugi na nga po ang magsasaka natin, mahal pa ang binibili ng consumer.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Ano ang ginagawa po ng ating ahensya upang mapababa ang production cost?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Matiyak ang makatarungang presyuhan sa supply chain.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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At ang ikalamang problema, ang paghahanda sa napipintong matinding El Niño sa susunod na taon.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Hindi natin kailangang antayin matuyo ang ating mga sakahan, masira ang mga pananim.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Tumaas ang presyo ng pagkain bago tayo kumilos.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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May sapat na ba tayong plano para sa irigasyon at patubig?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Nakapaghanda na ba tayo ng drought-resistant crops, mga binhi at iba pang suporta para sa ating mga magsasaka?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Paano natin titiyaking hindi mauwi sa kakulangan ng pagkain ang matinding tagtuyo?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Sa ating mga kaibigan sa DA, nais ko pong idein na huwag sana natin gawing palaging dahilan ng kakulangan sa budget.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Kung bakit hindi natin nagagampana ng ating mga tungkulin.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Taon-taon po, suportado po kayo ng ikang institusyon na ito.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Bilyong-bilyong piso po ang inilalaan ng pamahalaan sa sektor po ng agrikultura.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Karapatan din po ng taong bayan na malaman kung saan napupunta ang pondong ito, paano ito ginagastos at ano ang kongkretong resulta.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Hindi po sapat na mataas lang ang utilization, obligation at disbursement rates.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Ang mahalagang tanong ngayon ay may napapala ba ang ating mga magsasaka, mangingisda at mamimili?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Ito po ay isang hamon sa aking kaibigan, si Sekretary Kiko Laurel Jr.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Sa madaling salita na is natin makita, hindi lamang ang mga programa at pangako, kundi ang mga resulta at malinaw na pananagutan.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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Patunay po natin o patunayan po natin sa ating mga kababayan na ang bawat piso ang inilalaan sa agrikultura ay nagagamit ng tama,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

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fordoktibo at may buong transparency at accountability. Maraming salamat po, Ginong Chairman.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Maraming salamat, Senator Erwin Tulfo. We now give the floor to Sekretary Kiko Laurel. Do you have an opening statement? Go ahead, Sek Kiko, you have the floor.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Honorable Chairman, distinguished members of the Senate Committee on Finance, colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, good morning.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Today we seek your support for the Department of Agriculture's proposed 2027 Bill.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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At the time when our farmers and fisherfolk face a perfect storm, a looming super El Nino, worsening climate risks, and rising costs of fuel fertilizers and vital inputs, pressures compounded by geopolitical shocks beyond our control.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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The Department of Agriculture cannot control the weather or the price of oil halfway around the world, which also affects the price of fertilizers.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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But we can decide on how prepared our farmers are.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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And we must. We cannot demand cheap food while leaving farmers struggling to afford to produce it.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Nor can we expect our fisherfolks to keep feeding the nation if doing so means their families remain hungry for a better life.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Affordable food begins with viable farms. Food security begins with secure livelihoods.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Our proposed budget is designed to turn these principles into action.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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We will continue raising productivity through quality seeds, better inputs and modern technologies, expand farm-to-market roads, cold chain systems, and post-harvest facilities,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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and strengthen links between producers and markets so farmers and fisherfolks earn more from what they produce.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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We will also invest in climate resilience, disaster preparedness, and biosecurity.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Because every harvest lost to drought, every fish catch spoiled in transit,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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every crop destroyed by disease is not merely an agricultural setback, it is food lost, income lost, and opportunity lost.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Every peso invested wisely in agriculture can help deliver more than food.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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It can mean more stable prices, stronger rural economies, better paying livelihoods, and greater dignity for millions of Filipinos.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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But public investment must come with public accountability.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Government assistance must reach small farmers, fisherfolks, and agrarian communities.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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For whom it is intended.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Every program must be measured not simply by how much it spends, but by what it delivers.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Higher productivity, higher net incomes, fewer post-harvest losses, and food that remains safe and affordable.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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In a moment, Undersecretary Aziz Perez will present the details of our proposed budget and investments that will help us meet these goals.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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But beyond the figures lies a fundamental choice.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Whether we will continue asking our food producers to do more,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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or give them the tools, infrastructure, and protection they need to thrive.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Honorable Senators,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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A nation cannot eat budget figures, but with the right investments,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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those figures can help put food on every table and a better future within every farmer's reach.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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On behalf of the Department of Agriculture, I respectfully seek the Senate's support for our proposed 2027 budget.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Together, we are committed to a culture that not only feeds the country,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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but also provides a more sustainable future.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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A future that will be more productive and a better life for the people who feed us.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Thank you very much.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Thank you Mr. Chairman and good morning to everybody.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Thank you very much, Secretary Kiko Laurel.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Before we get on with the presentation by Usec Aziz Perez,

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we place on record and acknowledge the presence of our former Senate President, currently Senate President Pro Temp, Senator Tito Soto.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Thank you, sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Go ahead, Usec Aziz, with your presentation of the Department's 2027 proposed budget.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Go ahead.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Good morning, Mr. Chair and to the honorable members of this committee.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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It is an honor to present the Department's Agriculture FYI, FY2027 National Expenditure Program.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Before that, I would like to provide the outline of this presentation.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Before you proceed, we'd like to acknowledge the presence of our Senate President,

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Senator Win Gatchalian and Senate President Gatchalian.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Good morning.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Go ahead.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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In this outline, before we dive into the details of the National Expenditure Program,

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we would like to provide a brief snapshot of the current situation in agriculture and fisheries sector.

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This will provide a broader context of our programs and investments under the NEP.

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After this overview, we will walk through the details of the NEP.

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Of the 2.3 trillion GDP in 2025, agriculture and fisheries sector generated around 1.83 trillion, contributing around 7.9% to the overall economy.

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The agriculture and fisheries share has steadily declined from 10.1% in 2020 despite remarkable resilience during the pandemic.

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This highlights the need to accelerate growth and strengthen the sector's contribution to the economy.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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In terms of stakeholders, we have 10.44 million registered individuals in our SPSA.

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This is broadly consistent with the PSA estimate of 10 million people engaged in agriculture and fisheries,

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or an equivalence of about one for every five workers.

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Our registry will provide a clearer picture as shown in the table.

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Now, poverty among the farmers and fisher folks has declined substantially over the past two decades.

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Yet, it remains significantly higher than the national average.

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In 2023, poverty incidence stood at 27% for our farmers and 27.4% for our fisher folks, compared with 15.5% nationwide.

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This indicates that while we have made progress,

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this has yet to be fully translated into improved livelihoods on those sectors who depend on agriculture.

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Now, looking deeper into this figure,

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the 7.9% reflects only the value of production at the farm gate,

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but not the much greater value generated when agricultural products are processed, transported, and sold to the market.

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Consider this.

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There will be no 55 kilogram of rice in Metro Manila without the palay,

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brought at 19 pesos from the farmers.

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There will be no 366 peso per kilogram liempo if there is no pork produced at 170 pesos per kilogram.

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There will be no 206 per kilogram chicken without broiler.

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The chicken produced at 119 peso per kilogram.

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These figures highlight the important question.

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Are we adequately recognizing the contribution of our farmers and fisher folks to the value generated across the economy?

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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We saw the sector importance during the 2020 pandemic when its share in GDP rose to 10.1%, largely because other sectors contracted more sharply.

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When we look at this sector, share in GDP,

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therefore, there is a risk at overlooking agriculture and fisheries in the economic priorities.

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It bears to emphasize that agriculture is the foundational industry.

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This is a bedrock upon which many other industries and economic activities depend.

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Investing in agriculture, therefore, is not merely investing in the farmers and the fisherfolk.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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It is investing in the strengths, resiliency, and growth in the Philippine economy.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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As we have seen so far, agriculture and fisheries sector creates value,

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yet food insecurity and poverty and vulnerability

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yet food insecurity and poverty and vulnerability exist among the sector.

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These persistent challenges can be faced to fundamental bottlenecks

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across the agriculture and fisheries value chain,

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beginning at the resource level where agricultural land is becoming increasingly fragmented,

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with an average size failing from 3.59 hectares to just 0.82 hectares.

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This suggests that the only way to move forward is to cluster these farms into economic enterprise

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to allow what we call the economies of scale.

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At the production level, high input costs and low mechanization continue to constrain productivity,

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with major commodities falling short of their 2025 PDP.

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At the post-harvest stage, we continue to lose significant share of what we produce.

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Losses reach 14.5% for rice, 31.6% for onion, and 26.5% for mangoes, as an example.

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This shows that the challenge is not only how to produce more, but to prevent losses and preserve them.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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We need to increase the value of production all the way to the market.

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Finally, logistics and market access remain constrained by inadequate infrastructure and weak transport system.

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An estimated 55,050 km gap in farm-to-market access

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and 68,433-pallet [unclear] deficit in cold storage capacity

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to continue to

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raise transport costs, increase losses, and limit farmers' access to market.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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As mentioned by the Secretary, as if the challenge continues,

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along with this existing challenge, the impact on the conflict in the Middle East,

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particularly on fuel and fertilizer, has increased drastically.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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A year-to-year comparison of August National Weighted Average of Fertilizer will show

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a higher prices of 6 out of 7 major grades used.

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The highest percentage increase among these includes 46.7% for granular urea,

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43.61% for oil,

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and 40.89% for pilled urea.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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So ito po yung mga figures, sobrang laki na po ng itinaas.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Fertilizer prices began rising in the late 2020 as demand recovered from COVID-19,

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while supply chain remained disrupted and energy cost increased.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Next slide, please.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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The prices.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Okay, next slide, next slide.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Okay, that's okay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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We go to the farmgate prices.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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We have already expounded on the price of fertilizer and fuel.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Now we go to, well, contrasting the cost of production is the year-on-year.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Next slide, please.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Go back to the previous slide right after the, okay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Now, notwithstanding the cost or the increase in production cost this year,

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a year-on-year comparison of June farmgate prices in selected commodities show varying price changes.

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There is a notable increase in dry palay.

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In bangus.

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But we further noted a decrease in prices in hogs.

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It's 19%.

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In red onion, 69%.

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In broiler, 9%.

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Chicken eggs, 7%.

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And tilapia, 3%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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So tumataas po yung cost of production, pero generally bumababa po yung presyo at the farmgate level.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Particularly for hogs at this time.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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The agricultural sector recorded a trade deficit of around 11.12 billion in 2025.

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But it represents a modest improvement of about 5% compared to the previous year.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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This aligns with the trend observed in 2022 where trade gaps are gradually narrowing.

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Narrowing.

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Supported by raising export alongside moderate import growth.

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Despite this encouraging developments, the trade deficit remains substantial.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Bringing this gap will require sustained support for export expansion while aggressively bolstering local farm yields and domestic supply chain.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Looking at the composition of agricultural trade,

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export remains substantial.

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It remains heavily concentrated on just a few commodities.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Coconut products lead toward the average of about 3.6 billion, followed by bananas, at 1.68 billion.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Incidentally, Mr. Chair, we are now confirmed as the second biggest exporter of banana in the world.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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And pineapple products, around 3.370 million.

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On the import side, animal and vegetable oils and pot account for the largest,

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followed by fruits and vegetables and animal feeds.

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Together, these figures underscore the sector's narrow export resilience,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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reliance and on the handful products alongside substantial widespread demand for foreign food items at critical production inputs.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Now,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Let me bring you to the sufficiency level of selected commodities.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Based on the 2025 self-sufficiency level,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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domestic production is sufficient in several commodities,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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including root crops and vegetables.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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However, there remains a significant gap for rice, potato, onion, coffee, mango, garlic,

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indicating continued reliance on imports.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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At the livestock level,

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livestock and poultry show generally strong domestic production

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with chebon and eggs at 100% sufficiency.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Chicken and duck's meat are close to self-sufficiency,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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while caribbean, pork, beef,

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you know, import mix,

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are a large supply of these commodities.

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For fisheries, we have crabs, oysters,

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but when it comes to milkfish, tilapia,

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we are nearly 100%.

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However, for tuna and round scud,

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we remain below self-sufficiency.

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Although the department's budget has expanded,

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its share in the national budget remains relatively low,

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averaging just...

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2.62% over the past two decades.

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While comparing it with our Asian neighbor,

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FAO data underscores this gap,

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showing that agriculture's share of government expenditure

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in the Philippines is a lot lower than the expenditures in China,

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India, Thailand, Vietnam, Bangladesh, and Cambodia.

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Looking at Indonesia, by contrast,

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Indonesia indicates a slightly lower share at 2.6%,

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yet maintains a larger agricultural sector

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that achieves rice sufficiency in 2025.

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This comparison suggests that progress depends not only on spending,

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but on effective resource management and productivity conversion.

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A key factor that has been Indonesia's focus is agricultural extension since 2020.

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Demonstrating that robust extension services serve as a vital mechanism

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for technology transfer, farmer decision support,

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and targeted intervention delivery.

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Before we proceed, Mr. Chair, to FY2027 budget,

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we would like to highlight the five key result areas

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under the

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Para sa Masabagmaganan,

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and the Five Key Result Areas.

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Under the Para sa Masabagmaganan,

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we focus our plans and programs among these key objectives.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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The first one is on enhanced productivity.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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We need to increase the yield per hectare.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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We cannot increase our land area,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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but definitely we can increase the yield.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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We need to increase income,

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and that means lowering the cost and increasing the value.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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We need to improve food security and proper nutrition.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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It is not just producing food, but producing nutritious food.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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We need to reduce our dependence on import by increasing or improving self-sufficiency,

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and ultimately reduce poverty in the agriculture and fishery sector.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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For the next set of presentation, Mr. Chair,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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I would like to turn over the floor to Undersecretary Nora Oliveros,

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who will cast the financial component of our report.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Go ahead, Yusek Oliveros.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Thank you, Yusek Aziz Perez.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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You now have the floor, Yusek Nora.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Go ahead.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Oh, there you go.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

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Magandang umaga po sa lahat.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

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Before I proceed to the 2027 budget proposal of the Department of Agriculture,

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let me first brief the Committee on the Utilization of the Funds of DA for 2026.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

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Well, this slide presents the utilization status of the Department of Agriculture,

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net of attached corporation,

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as of September 30, 2026,

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covering both current and continuing appropriations.

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The Department has received a total allotment of ₱141.5 billion

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out of the ₱172 billion total adjusted appropriations.

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Of this amount, ₱90.4 billion has been obligated,

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representing an overall obligation rate of 63.9%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

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Total disbursements amounted to ₱50.8 billion, equivalent to 56.2% of total obligations.

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The majority of the allotment is under current appropriation with an obligation rate of 67%

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and a disbursement rate of 58%.

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For continuing appropriations, the obligation rate is 43.6%,

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while the disbursement rate is 38%.

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These figures are being monitored by the Department

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and have instructed all heads of the agencies

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to draw a catch-up plan for 2026

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to ensure the timely utilization and disbursement of the available funds

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in accordance with the approved programs and applicable government rules.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

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Next slide, please.

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This slide shows the summary by major programs,

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representing 82% of the total allotment received by the Department of Agriculture.

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The Department of Agriculture's major programs are anchored by high-performing areas

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like the Agricultural Credit Program,

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which achieve highest obligation and disbursement rate.

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Key initiatives such as the National Rice Program show strong fund commitment,

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though disbursement acceleration is needed across several sectors,

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Most notably

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on foreign-assisted projects where

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payments lag behind obligations.

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Overall, programs with large

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budget allocations, such as

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locally funded programs continue

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to drive the bulk of total spending.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

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We have also an update on the unreleased funds for 2027, one reason why we have low obligation rates and disbursements.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

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Some of these are shown on the next slide.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

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Under the Office of the Secretary, we have a total of 49.7 billion unreleased appropriations as of September 30, 2026, of which 19.8 billion were released in October, namely the funds for the FMR projects amounting to 18.68 billion and the establishment of the Agri-Food Hub project amounting to 500 million pesos.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

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Under the Office of the Secretary, we have a total of 49.7 billion unreleased appropriations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

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Some of these are for the National Rice Program, the National High Value Crops, the FMR projects, Animal Welfare Supervision and Accreditation Program, Biosecurity for Agriculture and Fishery, Building Sustainable Agriculture and Fishery Enterprises or the SAFE projects,

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also under the SAGIP-SACA Act, the requests are all for revision, updating the compilation of the required supporting documents to address the observations raised also by the DBM.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

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Also, unreleased as of September 30 is 22 million for the Cold Storage Expansion Project, the Digital Agriculture Project and 500 million for the establishment of the Agri-Food Hub.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000450

The funds were released, however, in October 2026.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000451

September, yeah, October 2026, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000452

Yes, this is additional for the Food Hub, additional release, 500 million.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000453

Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000454

After September 30, we have received the releases for the Food Hub Project of 500 million.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000455

October, yes.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000456

Another one.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000457

Yun lang po, after September 30, Food Hub lang po.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000458

So the others are still in, of course, are still ongoing and currently being evaluated by the DBM.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000459

And some of which are still...

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000460

And some of which are still ongoing with us because we have to comply for some supporting documents, additional requirements by the DBM, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000461

Next slide are the unreleased appropriations for some of our attached agencies.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000462

We have also a 250 million pending for the ACPC.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000463

Also, we have already submitted the request for this, but we have also to comply to certain...

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000464

Documentary requirements by the DBM.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000465

We have also another pending by the BIFAR, 407 million for the mobile water treatment and desalination system.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000466

So that's the status of our unreleased appropriations as of September 30, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000467

Now, may I go to the 2027 features of the DA proposal?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000468

Go ahead.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000469

For the agri-sector, which includes the DA, the National Irrigation Administration, and the Department of Agri and Reform,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000470

the total NEP that we have received as of today is 261.7 billion pesos, of which 198 billion is allocated to the Department of Agriculture.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000471

So this represents a decrease in the budget of the DA comparing with the 2026 GAA of around 17 billion pesos.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000472

For the whole sector, it is a decrease of 35.3 billion pesos.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000473

Let me go to the details of the 198.4 billion allocated for DA for 2027.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000474

The Department of Agriculture.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000475

As a budget of 198 billion, a decrease of 17.2 billion, or 8%, compared to the 2026 GAA.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000476

The Department's budget is distributed across key expenditure categories.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000477

So we have around 8.3 billion, or 4.2%, for salaries and compensation.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000478

MOE, which receives the highest allocation, at 62.46%, or 123.9%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000479

These, of course, are funds allocated for the different programs, operations, and services of the DA.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000480

Capital outlay of around 33.34%, or 66.2 billion, for infrastructure, facilities, and other investment that benefit our farmers and fisher folk.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000481

Now, the next slide shows the budget summary as to the cost structure of the budget.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000482

So this is allocated for, the budget of 198 is allocated for general administration and support services, support to operations, and operations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000483

So the operations budget is allocated around 156 billion for 2027.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000484

Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000485

The bulk of the decrease, however,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000486

for the budget of 20, of the DA for 2027, the bulk of the decrease of around 7.2 billion is particularly on the locally funded projects.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000487

Also, we have an increase of 20 billion, no?

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000488

We have an increase of 20 billion due to the animal industry development and competitive program.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000489

Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000490

Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000491

Next slide, please.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000492

As we look at the budget for 2027, per attached agencies, we have only an increase allocated for the Philippine Center for Post-Harvest Development and Mechanization,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000493

the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources, and the Philippine Council for Agriculture and Fisheries.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000494

All other attached agencies of the DA have suffered decrease in the allocation of the 2026 budget.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000495

For the attached corporation, again, there's only one corporation that received an increase in its budget.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000496

And this is for the National Tobacco Administration.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000497

All the seven corporations have received a decrease in their budgets for 2027.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000498

Particularly, the Fisheries Development Authority for its construction, rehabilitation, and improvement of fish ports, around 15.89%,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000499

and the Philippine Crop Insurance Corporation.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000500

Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000501

Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000502

For the banner programs, we look at the budget by the banner programs.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000503

Again, all of the banner programs have received decreases in the budget.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000504

The National Rice Program, for example, has received a decrease of around 4.8%,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000505

while the National Corn Program has received a decrease of around 4.8%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000506

The National Crop Program has received a decrease of around 4.54%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000507

The High Value Crops Development, 34% decrease.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000508

National Organic, 0.48%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000509

Halal Food, 10%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000510

National Urban and Peri-Urban, 53%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000511

Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000512

For the National Livestock Program,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000513

this is not actually a decrease but just a reallocation of the fund

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000514

because it has a program of 20 billion under the Animal Industry Development and Competitiveness Program of 20 billion.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000515

So, inilipat lang po natin yung appropriations para sa mga tila.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000516

The budget allocation for mainstreaming.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000517

Climate Resilient Agriculture in Regional Programs and Projects,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000518

the Kabuhayan at Kaundaran ng Kababayang Katutubo,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000519

and the Special Areas for Agricultural Development, Phase 2,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000520

and the National Soil Health Program,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000521

ito po ay inilipat natin sa regular programs.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000522

Mainstream na po natin itong mga programang ito sa regular programs natin

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000523

across the different banner programs.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000524

Makikita din po natin dito sa slide na to,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000525

yung notable increase sa Animal Industry Development and Competitiveness Program

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000526

pursuant to RA 12308.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000527

Ito po yung sinasabi kong 20 billion na allocation for the livestock industry

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000528

in compliance with the law.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000529

Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000530

Meron din po tayong decrease dun sa atin.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000531

Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000532

Meron din po tayong decrease dun sa ating non-requiring project,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000533

yung Presidential Assistance to Farmers and Fisher Folk,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000534

previously approved in 2026.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000535

Ito po ay hindi na-recommenda.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000536

Pero dun po sa ating current na GAB,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000537

ito po ay na-restore, no, around 10 billion.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000538

Dun po naman sa ating PCC, sa Philippine Crop Insurance,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000539

ito din po ay Philippine Carabao, yung Philippine Carabao po natin, center,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000540

na ilipat din po ang budget nito doon sa ating Animal Competitiveness Enhancement Program.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000541

Kung titignan po naman natin yung budget sa ating foreign-assisted projects,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000542

lahat din po ito ay nagkaroon ng decrease.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000543

Ang nakita lang po nating increase.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000544

Ito ay yung ating bagong project,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000545

yung ating French Government Assisted Project Farm-to-Market Bridge Program,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000546

which aims to address the continuing need for reliable and accessible bridge infrastructure in agri-production areas.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000547

All others po ay decrease po ang ating na-receive.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000548

Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000549

So I think that's it, Mr. Chair, for the features of the DA recommended by,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros

asr-000550

and the budget for 2027.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000551

I understand that you will end your presentation here,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000552

and we have this understanding that we will not have a agency-by-agency presentation of budget,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000553

but of course, all these attached agencies, the bureaus should be ready to answer the questions to be raised by our senators.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000554

So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000555

with that, we can now proceed with the questions of our members of the Senate,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000556

with the permission of our Senate President, Senator Aimee Marcos,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000557

who was here 15 minutes before 10,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000558

had requested that she be allowed to go for her first round.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000559

And we will give each senator 10 minutes for their first round questions.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000560

So, we can now proceed with Senator Aimee Marcos.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000561

You have your 10 minutes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000562

Go ahead, ma'am.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000563

Thank you very much, Chairman.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000564

It's farming hours.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000565

We wake up very early.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000566

My question simply is, how much are we actually spending on rice,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000567

and still persisting as the number one world's importer of rice?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000568

The National Rice Program is 29.2%.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000569

RCEP 30 billion, is this correct? RICE for all, 10 billion. Another NFA, 11.1 billion. This doesn't even count the Philippine RICE Institute.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000570

ASEP, CEA, the Remedies Fund, CEMF, many support programs. OSEC, 44.2 billion for RICE again.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000571

And then, parts that are for RICE under PRDP and the other foreign-assisted projects.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000572

Pag sinumatotal po natin ito, hihigit po ito ng 81 billion, yung direct RICE lang.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000573

Ano ba talaga ang dahilan na nagkukulang pa rin tayo sa pagbibigay ng kanin, ng RICE sa ating mga kababayan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000574

Kulang pa ba ito?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000575

Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000576

Mr. Chair, from our records, it's 60 billion. Sa RICE, not 80 billion.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000577

But yung sa 60, sorry Secretary, para lang sa kwenta. Sinasabi ninyong 60 billion kasi yung National RICE Program, halos 30. Tapos yung Regular RICE Program, 30 ulit.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000578

60? Ganun po ba?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000579

RCEP plus national rice.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000580

Yung sa 60 billion,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000581

Mr. Chair, is

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000582

yan yung direct sa

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000583

production. Kasi meron tayong

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000584

rice for all na 10 billion.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000585

O, may 10.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000586

Plus NFA na 9 billion, which has

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000587

nothing to do with production.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000588

That's right. Tapos may presidential

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000589

10 billion rent for rice

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000590

assistant.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000590-split-2

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000591

So, marami talaga

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000592

kapag sinumatotal?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000593

Marami naman siya, pero kung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000594

tinatanong niyong kulang,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000595

ang sagot ko dyan, kulang.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000596

Kulang. Ano ang dapat

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000597

para hindi na tayo

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000598

number one? After all,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000599

between Erie and Los

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000600

Baños, we essentially,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000601

Filipinos taught the world

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000602

how to plant rice.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000603

Tayo naman nagturo eh. Bakit

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000604

nagkagalito?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000605

Kung akong

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000606

tatanong niyo, number one,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000607

irigasyon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000608

Kulang na kulang.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000609

Sa irigasyon alone,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000610

ang kailangan...

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000610-split-2

Pero yung irigasyon,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000611

yung NIA, wala na sa inyo, hindi po ba?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000612

Nasa OP na po?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000613

Pero ang tinatanong niyo, kasi

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000614

bakit kulang tayo sa bigas eh?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000615

Ang sagot ko dyan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000616

kailangan mag-invest po

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000617

ang ating bansa sa irigasyon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000618

And it will take 1.2 trillion

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000619

pesos to irrigate the remaining

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000620

lands natin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000621

As far as the DA naman is concerned,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000622

Mr. Chair, we need

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000623

more money for post-harvest facilities,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000624

especially dryers for our farmers

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000625

and

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000626

mechanization.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000627

Magkano po ang tinitignan ninyo

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000628

para sa post-harvest?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000629

Maybe another 50 billion, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000630

Ama, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000631

5-0?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000632

I mean, over the years, hindi naman yung immediate.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000633

Sang-ayon po ako sa sinasabi ninyo,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000634

talagang kulang ang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000635

agricultural infrastructure investment,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000636

itong irigasyon.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000637

Sinasagot na rin natin sa PRD,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000638

PPP, sa mga farm-to-market road,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000639

at yung post-harvest nga,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000640

na napakalaki ng ating loss

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000641

sa post-harvest.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000642

So, napakalaki pa rin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000643

Solar irrigation din, under din sa amin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000644

ang solar irrigation,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000645

lalo ngayon, El Nino, kulang ang budget

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000646

natin para dyan, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000647

Pero nakita ko na nagbawas kayo ng budget

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000648

kahit mag-EL Nino.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000649

Mr. Chair, nagbawas kami ng budget

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000650

because hindi yan yung aming

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000651

ang proposal namin actually

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000652

mas malaki.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000653

So, binagsak sa DBCC?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000654

Yes, at

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000655

basically, we had to work

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000656

on a CAPE, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000657

Palibasa tayo nga ang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000658

importer, nagiging usapin

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000659

yung importasyon. For clarification,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000660

who approves the importation

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000661

permits and clearances?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000662

Hindi po ba yung Bureau of Plant Industry

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000663

under DA?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000664

Tama po ba yan?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000665

Yes, it goes through the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000666

BPI, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000667

That's right.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000668

Yun din ang alam ko.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000669

And under the present law,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000670

which government agency is authorized

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000671

to import rice on a regular basis?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000672

Wala, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000673

The general rule is that

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000674

the government, especially

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000675

NTAs, prohibited from

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000676

importing rice. Di po ba?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000677

There's a single exception

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000678

provided in RA 11203

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000679

Section 6.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000680

Kasi talagang pinaghirapan po

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000681

namin yan na kinakailangan.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000682

Yung emergency presidential powers

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000683

lang ang magsasabi kapag may

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000684

imminent or forecasted domestic

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000685

rice shortage. Tama po ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000686

I would like to clarify

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000687

na hindi hong wala ang allowed.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000688

Meron hong pwede.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000689

Okay. Sinong po sa gobyerno

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000690

ang allowed?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000691

PITC will be allowed.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000692

FTI may be allowed.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000693

Full terminal.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000694

And FTI may be allowed

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000695

under

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000696

our understanding is

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000697

the DA can designate also

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000698

an entity to import rice

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000699

under G2G contracts.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000700

Is that correct?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000701

Provided it's not NFA.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000702

Kaya yung sinasabi po ninyo, pag in-assign ninyo

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000703

yung PITC or yung FTI,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000704

pwede naman sila. Tama po ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000705

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000706

I have a question. Yung GOCC ba?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000707

Authorized to import rice?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000708

FTI is a GOCC.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000709

So FTI and PICC

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000710

yung sinasabi rin ninyo?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000711

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000712

Natanong ko kasi, nalilito po ako.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000713

Since May,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000714

matagal ko nang tinatanong

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000715

sa planters products

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000716

kung ano talaga ang status nila.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000717

At nakatanggap ako

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000718

ng sulat mula sa planters

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000719

na ang pinipilit nila

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000720

ay private corporation sila.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000721

When in fact, the reality

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000722

is there's an abject lack of clarity

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000723

on the status of PPI.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000724

There's a Supreme Court case

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000725

sa PPI versus Fertifil

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000726

na yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000727

Supreme Court sabi, private corporation.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000728

Kaya tama naman yung sulat

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000729

ng PPI. But that case

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000730

was decided long before

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000731

the Governance Commission of the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000732

GOCCs. So as of

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000733

30 June 2026,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000734

ang GCG

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000735

continues to classify

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000736

both PFI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000737

and PPI as GOCC.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000738

So is PPI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000739

a GOCC? Yun ang lista

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000740

ng GOCC.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000741

Mr. Chair, in our opinion,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000742

no. It is not a

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000743

GOCC. If it is

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000744

not a GOCC, what about

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000745

the Planters Foundation, Inc.?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000746

It's after all

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000747

chaired by you, Mr. Secretary.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000748

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000749

I am the ex-official

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000750

chairman. And Planters

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000751

products is sugeneris.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000752

It is unique on its own.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000753

Okay. Parang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000754

madalas natin naririnig yan, ha?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000755

Nagiging magulo tuloy

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000756

ang batas na i-a-apply.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000757

So if I

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000758

go with your argument that PPI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000759

is not a GOCC despite

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000760

the listing of

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000761

it under the GOC

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000762

listing, it is not a

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000763

GOCC, it's not a public

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000764

entity, why is it that

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000765

the great majority of its directors

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000766

are nominated by PFI?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000767

Isn't this not

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000768

the usual

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000769

definition of

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000770

total government control

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000771

or almost total?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000772

Total government control?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000773

From what I understand,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000774

kung titignan

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000775

natin yung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000776

sino ba may-ari

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000777

nung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000778

foundation

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000779

ng PFI,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000780

malinaw naman doon na

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000781

ang may-ari nun,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000782

hindi ang gobyerno.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000783

So who owns it? Kasi

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000784

ang sinasabi natin ngayon, yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000785

PFI holds in trust

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000786

80% of the PPI

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000787

shares. So even

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000788

if the PFI merely holds in

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000789

trust those shares, the fact remains

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000790

na yung PFI,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000791

gobyerno, is

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000792

exercising at the very least

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000793

indirect if complete control

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000794

over PPI through the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000795

nominations of the great majority of

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000796

its directors. Para sa akin,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000797

very concerning yung potential

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000798

conflicts of interest

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000799

and the due advantage that

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000800

may arise. How can DA claim

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000801

to regulate planters'

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000802

products impartially

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000803

when the chairman of PFI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000804

is the secretary of DA

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000805

who effectively controls the entire

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000806

board of directors?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000807

Are you not effectively regulating

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000808

a corporation that is under

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000809

your complete or almost

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000810

complete influence? Yun ang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000811

kinatatakutan natin

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000812

na maiipit ka talaga.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000813

I don't think so,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000814

Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000815

I was appointed

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000816

as secretary and by default,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000817

ako'y nalagay niyan as ex-officio.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000818

Tama. Doon sa

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000819

foundation, hindi sa PPI.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000820

Ang allegation na naririnig ko

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000821

dati is recently,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000822

katulad na rin ninyo, na ako

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000823

ang nag-nominate ng lahat

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000824

ng members

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000825

ng board.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000826

Actually, that is not true.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000827

Pero nandun eh. Yun talaga ang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000828

sinasabi sa...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000828-split-2

Ang nag-nominate

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000829

ko ng kalahati ng board before

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000830

my time is si

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000831

Senior Usec

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000832

Pangaliban.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000832-split-2

Pero tamang-tama yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000833

sinamin niyo. Ang nag-nominate,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000834

gobyerno pa rin.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000835

Usec Pangaliban pa rin. Hindi po ba?

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000836

Pero hindi ako.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000837

Pero pareho pa rin yun eh.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000838

Kasi... Para sa inyo ho.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000838-split-2

Para sa akin.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000839

Hindi para sa akin.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000840

The secretary and every member of

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000841

the cabinet is the alter ego of the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000842

president. And you're clearly

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000843

part of the government as the secretary

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000844

of agriculture. Unless

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000845

something's changed,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000846

Mr. Secretary, with all due

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000847

respect, gobyerno po kayo?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000848

Well, yes, gobyerno ko. But

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000849

again,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000850

ang may-ari ng PPI

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000851

is... It was created

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000852

I think in 1962.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000853

Yes, that's correct.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000854

And it was owned by farmers eh.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000855

That's correct.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000856

From what I understand,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000857

yung ownership ng farmers

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000858

is being... Hinahanap na ngayon

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000859

ng PPI

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000860

through legal means kung sino yung

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000861

real owner niyan. As I said,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000862

that company is unique

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000863

on its own. Yun na nga.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000864

Kaya hindi siya

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000865

under COA.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000866

Sabihin na natin... Private entity siya

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000867

as per Supreme Court.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000868

So...

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000869

Then I do not

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000870

do day-to-day functions

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000871

on that company.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000871-split-2

O siyempre hindi kayo

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000872

nagpapatakbo nun kasi may iba naman

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000873

hindi ako nagpapatakbo nun at all.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000874

Pero ang maliwanag, kahit sabihin natin

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000875

na debatable ang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000876

status ng PFI at ng PPI,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000877

ang maliwanag

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000878

eh talagang

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000879

nakaupo kayo doon.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000880

Hindi po ba?

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000881

Sa pundasyon.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000881-split-2

Sa pundasyon.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000882

Which owns 80% of the shares

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000883

in trust.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000884

79% of the shares in trust.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000885

Ayun na rin po yun.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000886

Anyway, PPI insists it's a private

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000887

corporation if it's true.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000888

Doesn't your involvement or

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000889

any DA official

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000890

previous or future

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000891

in PPI's

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000892

corporate governance violate

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000893

Section 7 of RA

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000894

6713 prohibiting all

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000895

public officials from managing

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000896

or controlling private enterprises

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000897

regulated by

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000898

their own offices.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000899

Kali yun yung regulator, kayo pa yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000900

nagmamay-ari, kayo pa nagpapatakbo.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000901

Parang magulo ata yun.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000902

I would like to correct na hindi ako may-ari niyan?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000903

Hindi. Ang gobyerno

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000904

may-ari effectively. Kahit

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000905

in trust pa yan. Kahit sabihin pa natin...

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000905-split-2

Hindi.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000906

Ano pwede natin sabihin na gobyerno

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000907

may-ari yun yan dahil

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000908

the papers clearly say

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000909

it is owned by farmers

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000910

and we are just the trustee.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000911

And ah...

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000912

Siguro kung magandang

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000913

gumawa kayo ng batas na matanggal ang

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000914

Secretary of Agriculture dyan sa

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000915

being ex-officio ng isang

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000916

kumpanya na yan, that would be

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000917

great.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000917-split-2

Maganda rin siguro

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000918

kung kausapin ninyo yung

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000919

GOCC kung bakit kayo

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000920

nalista pa rin bilang bahagi

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000921

ng gobyerno.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000922

Kasi klaro yun sa PPI.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000923

So how can the public, para natin

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000924

magagaranti ang tao na yung

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000925

PPI hindi preferred

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000926

kapag ah...

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000927

ang mga opisyal eh talagang

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000928

ah...

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000929

nandun. Eh ang

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000930

klaro-klaro. Which is it?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000931

Is PPI a government

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000932

controlled corporation?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000933

In which case it's authority

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000934

to undertake rice importation,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000935

is scrutinized and highly

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000936

limited by law

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000937

ah... governing operations in

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000938

the government? Or is it a private

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000939

corporation? In which case

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000940

the involvement of the Secretary,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000941

not you personally, but

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000942

the government in general,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000943

in its management

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000944

raises very serious

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000945

constitutional and conflict

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000946

of interest concerns.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000947

Magiging magulo eh. Yun ang problema

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000948

kasi. Ah...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000949

Mr. Chair, hindi ako abogado.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000950

But ah...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000951

bilang layman lang,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000952

tingin kong pinakamataas

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000953

na hukuman dito sa ating

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000954

bansa ay Supreme Court.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000955

At ah... base sa decision ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000956

Supreme Court, na nakita ko,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000957

I don't know, I don't follow the details,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000958

the Supreme Court declared it

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000959

as a private entity.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000960

Tama. So...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000961

I cannot...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000962

I cannot be...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000963

Ayaw ang mga abogado.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000964

No, Secretary,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000965

I'm not asking for an answer this minute.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000966

Pero I agree with you. Doon sa PPI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000967

versus Fertifil Corporation,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000968

ang problema 2008 yun.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000969

Yung bagong batas

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000970

na pinagbabawal ang importasyon

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000971

eh pumasok lang noong 2011.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000972

Kaya medyo

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000973

malabo na talaga yung status

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000974

kung tutuusin. Ngayon,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000975

binanggit ninyo na yung PPI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000976

shares are held in trust

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000977

by the foundation.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000978

Yung 79.9%, eh

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000979

in trust. And yung PFI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000980

doesn't own the actual shares.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000981

So ang tanong, who owns

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000982

the shares of PPI?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000983

Is it not under LOI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000984

178, March

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000985

1974, yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000986

PPI shares, sabi nga

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000987

ninyo, held by the PFI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000988

where the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000989

Secretary sits, should eventually

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000990

disperse to their true

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000991

owners, tulad ng binanggit ninyo,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000992

yung fertilizer end user,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000993

yung mismong farmer. Ang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000994

tanong, bakit hanggang ngayon hindi pa

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000995

na pamimigay yung mga

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000996

shares niyan?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-000997

Actually, Mr. Chair, kami lang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000998

Before you answer, we'd just like to place

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000999

on record and acknowledge the presence

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001000

of the Chairman of the Committee on Finance,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001001

Sen. Javier Hercito, and our

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001002

majority leader, Sen. Migs Zubiri.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001003

Go ahead, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001004

Mr. Chair, for so

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001005

many years, since 1962 nga,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001006

nandyan yung PPI. It is

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001007

only during my administration

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001008

na inaayos namin lahat yan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001009

inaayos. There is

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001010

now an active search ngayon

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001011

to identify sino ba talaga yung mga

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001012

beneficial owners or owners

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001013

on record niyan. Malamang nga

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001014

since 1962 pa ho yan, baka

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001015

majority diyan, baka

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001016

patay na.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001017

Ayun na nga, pero may

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001018

mga heirs naman yan, may successors naman yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001019

I cannot

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001020

speak for that.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001020-split-2

No, I understand.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001021

I'm not asking you naman,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001022

I just want to

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001023

explain right now. Ang tanong lang,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001024

the shares have remained undistributed

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001025

for 52 years.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001026

And the government

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001027

continues effectively to hold them

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001028

whether they are nominally in trust or not.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001029

And PPI continues to be part and parcel

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001030

of the GOCC listing.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001031

Kaya napakalabo kapag nag-i-import

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001032

ang PPI ng katakot-takot na bigas.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001033

On that note, may I ask

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001034

for the rice importation data of the PPI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001035

for the last 10 years, please.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001036

Before plenary, sana po.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001037

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001038

For sure, we will ask BPI

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001039

to submit the list to you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001040

Okay, thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001041

Yes, thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001042

Exacto.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001043

10 minutes for your first round.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001044

Thank you for that, Senator Aimee.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001045

We now proceed with the Senate President

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001046

for his questions.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001047

Go ahead, Senate President Nguyen.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001048

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001049

Mr. Chairman, I would

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001050

I saw earlier that

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001051

Senator Irwin came in earlier than me

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001052

so I would wave my

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001053

my portion to him

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001054

so that he can propound his questions.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001055

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001056

Just for the record,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001057

the tradition is that

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001058

the Senate President gets first crack

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001059

but he is now yielding

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001060

his first crack to

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001061

our colleague, Senator Irwin Tulfo.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001062

Thank you, Senate President Nguyen.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001063

Go ahead.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001064

Senator Tulfo.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001065

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001066

Thank you, Mr. Senate President

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001067

for giving way, sir,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001068

to let me ask questions first.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001069

Secretary,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001070

kanina po sa presentation ho ninyo

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001071

nabanggit ho ninyo

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001072

isa sa mga problema natin

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001073

ay ito pong shrinking agricultural land po natin

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001074

kasi marami na pong binibenta

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001075

ng mga lupain

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001076

in exchange for tinatayuan

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001077

ng mga factory subdivision

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001078

semiteryo.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001079

Sir, malaking may tutulong ba

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001080

pag may pasan na ang National Land Use Act

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001081

para sa mga ikang

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001082

mapigil

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001083

ang ikang pagliit

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001084

ng agricultural lands?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001085

Mr. Chair, yes.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001086

That is one of the most important things

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001087

para sa amin sa Department of Agriculture

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001088

na mapasan na ho niya

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001089

ang Land Use Act na yan.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001090

Alright.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001091

Isa pa ho kanina, nabanggit yun sa presentation po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001092

ninyo yung kaya po mahal

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001093

yung production po ng rice natin

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001094

at ang ibang food

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001095

dahil po sa mga fertilizers po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001096

na high cost.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001097

Tanong ho natin,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001098

100% po ba we're depending

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001099

on fertilizer importation?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001100

Hindi po ba meron din tayo mga

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001101

locally produced mga fertilizers

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001102

sa Secretary?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001103

Lahat po ng, Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001104

lahat ng component ng fertilizer

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001105

ng inorganic is,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001106

lahat naman lahat,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001107

maybe 90 plus percent

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001108

is imported.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001109

So mixing lang,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001110

kung meron man tinatawag na manufacturing

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001111

sa Pilipinas nito,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001112

it's just mixing of the raw material

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001113

that is still imported,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001114

Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001115

Alright, thank you.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001116

Let me now go,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001117

I don't know if kayo po ang sasagot

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001118

sa Laurel or ang BIFAR.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001119

Kahapon nga po nabanggit ko,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001120

I was in Marinduque,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001121

tapos a few months ago,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001122

I was over there in Palawan,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001123

nandito nga po ang mga

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001124

mayors po natin.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001125

Ito nga po naging desisyon po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001126

sa Mercedar Fishing Corporation case.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001127

Ano po ang ginagawa ngayon

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001128

ng Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001129

para maprotektahan po ang ating

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001130

malilitamang isda

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001131

laban po sa pagpasok ng commercial

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001132

fishing vessels sa municipal waters?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001133

Meron na po bang

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001134

i-final a motion for reconsideration

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001135

dito ang BIFAR? Ano na po ang status

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001136

dito ngayon?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001137

I would like to request the BIFAR

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001138

to answer yung detalya no,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001139

kasi di ako updated masyado.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001140

Yes, go ahead po.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001141

Good morning, Mr. Chair.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001142

With the indulgence of our

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001143

Secretary,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001144

as to the BIFAR po,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001145

we already filed a motion for

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001146

reconsideration regarding

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001147

the case for

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001148

Mercedar case,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001149

Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001150

Ano ho naging problema dito, Sir?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001151

I mean, paano ho?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001152

Hindi ho makapaniwala ang mga fisher folks natin.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001153

Pati po ang mga mayors natin

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001154

na bakit ho nakalusot ito

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001155

at ikaw ang

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001156

nadesisyonan ng

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001157

KORTET, kinatigan

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001158

itong malaking kumpanya.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001159

Ano ho nangyari dito?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001160

Can you explain to us para

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001161

maintindihan po para itong mga

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001162

mayors po na nakikinig sa atin?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001163

Parang nalusutan ho tayo yata, Sir.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001164

Let me,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001165

allow me, Mr. Chair,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001166

to read the material proceedings of the

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001167

case. So, on 11th,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001168

December 2023, the RTC declared

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001169

the challenge is statutory and regulatory

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001170

provisions unconstitutional,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001171

prohibited their enforcement

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001172

against Mercedar Fishing

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001173

Corporation, and allowed

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001174

MFC to operate without regard to

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001175

the 15-kilometer

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001176

limit subject

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001177

to the specified depth condition.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001178

On January 2024,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001179

the Republic, through the Office of

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001180

Solicitor General,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001181

filed a petition for review

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001182

and certiorary before the Supreme Court,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001183

challenging the RTC ruling

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001184

and raising procedural

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001185

jurisdictional and

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001186

substantial grounds.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001187

And on August 2024,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001188

the Supreme Court First

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001189

Division denied the Republic's

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001190

petition and affirmed the RTC

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001191

ruling, citing the late filing

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001192

of the petition and the failure

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001193

to establish reversible error.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001194

And on January 2025,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001195

the OSG filed a motion for

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001196

reconsideration, arguing that the

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001197

procedural rules should be relaxed

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001198

in view of the constitutional issues

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001199

and public interest involved.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001200

The OSG requested the referral

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001201

of the case to the Supreme Court and

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001202

Bank, and in July 2025,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001203

the Supreme Court

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001204

consolidated

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001205

the cases

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001206

and transferred

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001207

the consolidated cases to the

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001208

First Division for ununified

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001209

disposition of the case, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001210

So, what is the status? We are waiting

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001211

for the decisions

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001212

of the Supreme Court.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001213

The Supreme Court Division?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001214

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001215

We already filed through OSG

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001216

the motion for reconsideration

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001217

of the case, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001218

Rewind po tayo nabang itunin niyo

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001219

procedural lapses. Kaya po tayo natalo

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001220

dahil sa procedural lapses.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001221

Sino po may kasalanan?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001222

At pinag-antay, nag-lapse po yung panahon

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001223

para sumagot po tayo.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001224

Saan ho nagkulang? Kayo ho ba yun

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001225

o ang OSG na

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001226

hinayaan ho ninyong mag-lapse

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001227

yung panahon? Kasi tingin po ng

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001228

ilan, parang pinabayaan

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001229

ho ninyo na nag-lapse.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001230

Parang sinadya na nag-lapse. Kasi

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001231

kung tututuusin po,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001232

kung hindi po natalo lang po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001233

tayo dahil yung panahon

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001234

na nag-expire na po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001235

para sumagot.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001236

Kaya nag-ruling po yung

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001237

korte in favor doon sa Mercedar.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001238

Sir, ano nangyari sa

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001239

abang abogado natin dyan

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001240

sa BIFAR? Pero naman siguro

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001241

kay legal department o ano, Sir?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001242

Yes, Your Honor.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001243

There is a legal division po of the

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001244

Bureau of Fisheries handling the cases po.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001245

Okay, what happened there?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001246

What happened, I think, Your Honor, if I'm not mistaken,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001247

correct me if I'm wrong,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001248

there was two decisions,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001249

I think, rendered by the

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001250

RTC. And the one that was

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001251

the one that was

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001252

replied by BIFAR

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001253

for the motion was

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001254

not given into

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001255

consideration, but the other one,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001256

was, yun po yung nabigyan ng ano, ng hindi po nabigyan ng RTC po.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001257

So that's, I think, the procedural

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001258

infirmities po na nangyari,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001259

Your Honor, Mr. Chair.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001260

Pero on the part of BIFAR,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001261

we filed

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001262

the case

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001263

on time, but

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001264

there are two dispositions

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001265

of the cases

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001266

that were supposedly to be

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001267

adjudicated by the RTC.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001268

But unfortunately, Your Honor,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001269

Mr. Chair, it was the one

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001270

that we, the one that

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001271

for this motion

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001272

for reconsideration in the Supreme Court

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001273

was not given consideration,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001274

Your Honor.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001275

Anong motion for reconsideration po yung sinasabi ho ninyo?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001276

What motion

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001277

for reconsideration is this?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001278

Can we

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001279

Sige po, papuntahin nyo pala, pitin nyo.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001280

Can we call po our

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-001281

Chief Legal Division, Your Honor?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001282

The mayors are not buying

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001283

that answer.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001284

The assistant director

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001285

na only because

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001286

of procedural lapses,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001287

natalo yung mga ilang

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001288

libong fishermen natin. And I don't

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001289

buy that either. Na

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001290

tanalo tayo, procedure.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001291

Uso ho yan ganun na

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001292

nag-a, nadidilay,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001293

natatalo tayo dahil sa technical

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001294

lang. Go ahead.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001295

Before the, before you

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001296

answer the, from

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001297

BIFAR, just for the information of our

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001298

colleagues,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001299

actually what happened here based on

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001300

the timeline,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001301

the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001302

Mercadar Fishing Corporation,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001303

they filed a case at RTC

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001304

Malabon

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001305

in October 5.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001306

By November 10,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001307

2023, the OSG

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001308

asked RTC Malabon for more

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001309

time to respond.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001310

And then,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001311

by December 7,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001312

less than a month later,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001313

about a month later, RTC

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001314

Malabon, the judge, moved forward

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001315

without the OSG's

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001316

response, allowing

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001317

only Mercadar to present

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001318

its side. So, dun palang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001319

sa RTC Malabon,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001320

ang balita ko rito, retired

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001321

na tong judge na ito eh, pero

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001322

bakit hindi binigyan

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001323

ng pagkakataon ng

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001324

OSG mag-respond? Yun ang isa rin

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001325

tanong. And then, on December 11,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001326

RTC Malabon ruled

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001327

that giving small

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001328

fissures and LGU

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001329

control over municipal waters

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001330

is unconstitutional.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001331

And then,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001332

on December 20 of the same

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001333

year, 2023, or about

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001334

nine days later,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001335

the OSG requested

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001336

or filed a motion,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001337

I suppose, to reconsider the decision,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001338

but the RTC Malabon

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001339

rejected it.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001340

Yun ang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001341

dun palang sa RTC,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001342

katakatakang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001343

parang minadali, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001344

But having said that,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001345

go ahead. What is your name,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001346

please, on record?

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001347

Actually,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001348

during the last time we...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001349

We didn't hear your name.

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001350

Attorney Roberto Buazon, po.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001351

Bu? Buason.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001352

Buason, okay. Please answer.

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001353

I already discussed, Mr. Chair,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001354

during the last time we met,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001355

that this is a

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001356

petition for declaratorily,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001357

with prayer for issuance

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001358

of TRO. On

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001359

October 25, they filed.

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001360

And then, on November

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001361

10, there was a hearing

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001362

on the TRO. During

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001363

that time, the OSG,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001364

who is the Council of BIPAR,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001365

asked for a motion for

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001366

extension.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001367

I'm sorry, po,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001368

attorney. Sino po itong

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001369

judge na ito ng RTC na Malabon?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001370

What's his name?

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001371

Actually, I was not...

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001372

Sino po ba?

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001373

I was not around during that time, po, po.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001374

I would like to get his name, para ho.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001375

Do you submit the name to this committee

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001376

so that we can provide the senator

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001377

tool for?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001378

I also want to know who these judges.

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001379

Yes, po.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001380

Pero ang balita ko, retired na eh.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001381

It doesn't matter, Mr. Chair,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001382

kasi para naman,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001383

hindi naman po pwedeng gano'n. Malinaw po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001384

sa sikat ng araw kung ano ho dapat

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001385

maging desisyon. I mean, making

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001386

decisions na hindi pa na-aantayin yung

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001387

kabilang panig. Mukhang mali naman ho

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001388

yata. Hindi ho ako bagado, pero

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001389

dapat ho, eh, pinakinggan ho.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001390

Kaya nga, I want to get the name

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001391

of that retired judge. Correct, po.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001392

Tapos eh, ano ho, naging action ho ninyo

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001393

nung hindi kayo pinagbigyan? What did you do

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001394

immediately after?

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001394-split-2

Actually, we filed

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001395

a... During that time,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001396

it was only an oral

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001397

motion. So, on the last

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001398

day, we filed a

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001399

written motion for extension to

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001400

file an answer. But,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001401

be that as may,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001402

nagkaroon na po kagad

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001403

ng resolusyon ng judge,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001404

to

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001405

order for

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001406

default. May motion for

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001407

extension. So, there is an irregularity

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001408

in the procedure. Ganon po ang nangyari.

Source

BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001409

So, yung mga succeeding

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001410

dates na nangyari,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001411

even in the filing for petition for

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001412

review on certiorari, nagkaroon

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001413

ng irregularity. Ganon po ang nangyari.

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001414

So, we filed,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001415

we assailed that error

Source

BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001416

in our motion for

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001417

reconsideration. So, we are waiting

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001418

for the resolution.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001419

Sure.

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001420

Sa SC ngayon, yan, naka-pending.

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001421

Parang first

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001422

division po yan.

Source

BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001423

But, there is a motion

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001424

para mapunta sa NBANG.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001425

Alright.

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001426

Because it is a question of

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon

asr-001427

constitutionality po.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001428

Yeah, I understand po. Mukhang may

Source

Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001429

naging problema po talaga doon pa lang sa baba.

Source

Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001430

Yung pagkatig po kagad ng judge

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001431

doon po sa kumpanya.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001432

Anyway, I will reserve

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001433

my second round of questioning.

Source

Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001434

It's okay.

Source

Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001435

I just reserved my

Source

Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001436

second round lang, Mr. Chet, to give way to other

Source

Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001437

senators or president.

Source

Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001438

And I would like to thank the Senate president

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo

asr-001439

for allowing me to go ahead.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001440

Yes, thank you. Just for the information

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001441

of our colleagues and for the record,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001442

the presiding judge

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001443

at that time,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001444

and I understand he's now retired,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001445

Branch 170,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001446

RTC Malabon,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001447

Judge

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001448

Zaldi Docena,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001449

for the record.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001450

Okay, we can now proceed

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001451

with the questions of our Senate

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001452

President. Go ahead,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001453

Senate President

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001454

Nguyen.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001454-split-2

Thank you, Mr.

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Chairman.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001456

Mr. Chairman, let me start off with

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something that will

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be

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hitting us

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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or have already hit us.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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And this is El Nino, Mr. Secretary.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001462

Thank you, Secretary.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001463

I'll flash the slide.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Slide 25.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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So far...

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agricultural damage

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for El Nino or related to

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El Nino is about

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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6.8

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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billion pesos

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of which about 163

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metric tons of

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agricultural

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products ang naapektuhan

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of which about

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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249 hectares ang

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naapektuhan itong

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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El Nino. So this is so far palang

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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as of September 30

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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and as we can

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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actually all feel

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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normally pag ganitong

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001483

October maulan eh pero ngayon

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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hindi na umuulan

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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pabugso-bugso na lang ang ulan

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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so I would like to get a

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briefing from the good secretary

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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on their

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forecast on El Nino

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001490

in relation to agriculture

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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and then

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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ano ang mga contingency

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001493

measures na ginagawa natin

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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and also

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related to the budget

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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ano ba yung mga

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001497

budgetary components

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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na makakatulong

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001499

maibsan yung

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001500

epekto ng El Nino sa

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agriculture sector. We'll just focus on the

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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agriculture sector. We're not

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001503

yun ang ating topic

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001504

on hand right now.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001505

Mr. Chair, one question lang. Is it for

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001506

2026 or 2027?

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001507

For 2027. Onward.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001508

The remaining year

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001509

until 2027.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001510

According to

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Pag-asa, the weather forecaster

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001512

and some experts, it will persist

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001513

until mid of 2027.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001514

But these things can change.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001515

Sabi nyo nga kanina sa opening statement,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001516

yung one thing the EA cannot do

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001517

is predict the weather

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001518

or stop the weather.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001519

So

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001520

but let's take

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the word of the forecasters

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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until mid of 2027

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001523

and alam natin na

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001524

one of the

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001525

direct hit dito sa El Nino will be the

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001526

agriculture sector. So just give us

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001527

your forecast,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001528

your forecast

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001529

in terms of agricultural

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001530

impact and then ano may

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001531

mga mitigating measures

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001532

and then also in the budget

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001533

what are the components in the budget

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001534

that will address the

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001535

impact of El Nino and

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001536

if you have any suggestions

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001537

on what components also

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001538

we can improve so that we can

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001539

further

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001540

mitigate the impact of El Nino.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001541

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001542

Basically, El Nino

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001543

will hit us.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001544

Ang kasagsagan ng El Nino

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001545

ay nadelay na.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001546

Nadelay nung una, November

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001547

dapat 2026.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001548

But then the latest forecast is

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001549

na move siya ang January,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001550

February and March

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001551

maybe until April of next year.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001552

So what the DA is

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001553

doing now is

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001554

fast tracking yung aming deployment.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001555

So we have a lot of

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001556

solar water irrigation

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001557

projects.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001558

We had 1.6 billion

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001559

this year and mukhang madagdagan pa kami

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001560

ng OP. But for

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001561

next year, we are also requesting

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001562

na madagdagan itong solar pumps,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001563

solar

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001564

irrigation and for aquaculture

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001565

naman, mga solar driven

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001566

paddle wheels to keep the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001567

fishponds

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001568

aerated para

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001569

mayroon pang oxygen ng isda para

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001570

mabawa.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001571

Pasa ng fish kill, pati sa mga lakes.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001572

Besides that,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001573

maa-affect ang poultry natin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001574

dahil kung mainit ng panahon,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001575

bumaba ba ang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001576

production ng manok, baboy.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001577

Baboy usually

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001578

pag summer mainit,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001579

mas bawas ang ASF.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001580

So it's a bit better. Problema lang sa

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001581

baboy is yung presyo. At ayusin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001582

ho natin yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001583

Water management is critical.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001584

So we will

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asr-001585

be doing alternate wet

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001586

and dry systems sa ating mga

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001587

in cooperation

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001588

with NIA to

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001589

maximize the use of water.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001590

Of course, fertilizer support

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001591

is badly needed.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001592

Dahil

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001593

sa taas ng fertilizer ngayon,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001594

kasi ano yan, as I said, perfect storm,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001595

tabay ang problema.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001596

The risk is under fertilization

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001597

dahil people cannot afford

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001598

fertilizer. Inbis na sampung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001599

bag ng fertilizer, lagay sa isang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001600

hektarya dahil sa mahal ng fertilizer,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001601

baka limang bag na lang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001602

ang lagay ng ating mga magsasaka.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001603

That's why if the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001604

government can give more fertilizers

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001605

in forms of voucher

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001606

or cash para hindi na kami mag-procure,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001607

that would be the best at mabilis.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001608

So kung mabigyan kami ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001609

additional budget, kasi hindi naman sinatawag

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001610

ng El Nino, walang tubig lahat.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001611

May areas din na maraming

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001612

tubig or meron tubig.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001613

Meron lang talagang super dry.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001614

Sa areas na maraming tubig naman

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001615

or may tubig pa, dun ho tayo magbubuhay.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001616

Most na mga fertilizer. Para dun naman

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001617

increase ang production.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001618

So that holds

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001619

also for corn and other high value

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001620

crops. Of course

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001621

more money into

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001622

small water impounding will

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001623

really benefit

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001624

our farmers and

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001625

fisher folks. Even sa ponds,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001626

pang palalim ng ponds, mga pond liners.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001627

And these investments that we

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001628

will make next year with the budget,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001629

ano na yan, that is getting,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001630

our farmers and fisher folks

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001631

ready para sa mga subsequent

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001632

El Nino's. Kasi dumadalas

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001633

ho yan eh. Nung bata pa ako

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001634

sa fishing industry,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001635

every 10 years lang ang El Nino.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001636

Then naging every 5,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001637

7, every 5, every 3 years.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001638

Yung pagpasok ko ho dito

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001639

sa DA,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001640

2023, November,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001641

2024, El Nino kagadang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001642

ang simulubong

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001643

ho sa akin. At

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001644

2027, El Nino na naman

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001645

nasasalubong at mas malakas pa.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001646

So with all of that,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001647

sa production output

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001648

naman, we expect na

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001649

700,000 tons of

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001650

rice ang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001651

mawawala, at least.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001652

That's probably a million

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001653

tons of pala, worst case scenario.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001654

Plus meron pa tayo nabawasan na

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001655

163,000

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001656

tons as of now

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001657

dito sa losses for this

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001658

year. So

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001659

we

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001660

would need

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001661

700,000 plus 163

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001662

as of now, we would need an addition

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001663

of 863,000

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001664

tons of rice

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001665

para

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001666

ma-ensure na

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001667

may bigas tayo through this El Nino.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001668

Plus

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001669

strategic buffer stocks pa na kailangan.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001670

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001671

Secretary, itong nasa screen natin,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001672

163 metric

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001673

tons of agricultural losses.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001674

Ibig sabihin,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001675

this will increase to times,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001676

almost times 8

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001677

from 160 to about

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001678

800,000. So mga times 6.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001679

6 to 8.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001680

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001681

Kasi ito, ano pa lang ito, as of September.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001682

Di pa, pasok pa lang ngayon, El Nino.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001683

And then, dito sa

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001684

this data

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001685

came from the PSA,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001686

223,000

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001687

farmers ang affected.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001688

So at the peak of El Nino,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001689

ilan

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001690

ang projected

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001691

agricultural losses na nakikita

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001692

ng department?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001693

I don't have the total figures

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001694

with me right now. Maybe I can ask

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001695

sa rice kasi yun na sa isip ko

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001696

as of the moment.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001697

Ito is cumulative na ito.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001698

Iba-iba.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001699

Iba-ibang products.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001700

I think that is

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001701

going to be the most

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001702

precipitative

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001703

problem in the agriculture

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001704

itong El Nino.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001705

So we want to understand kung ready ba

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001706

in department.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001707

And kung hindi, how can we

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001708

help the department to become ready

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001709

to respond to El Nino?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001718

Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001719

sa 2023-2024 na total value lost natin was almost 16 billion ang nawala sa atin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001720

during that relatively strong El Nino period.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001721

So with values up now and super El Nino ito,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001722

we expect siguro na baka umabot tayo ng 20 billion in losses.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001723

Yung volume lost in 2023-2024 that year is 828,000 metric tons

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001724

or almost 280,000 hectares affected.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001725

So we expect na volume lost can reach up to a million tons.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001726

Area affected may reach about 350,000 hectares, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001727

Secretary, narinig ko kanina sinabi nyo na based on experience ng DA,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001728

during El Nino may mga areas na okay naman, umuulan.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001729

May mga areas na talagang tuyong-tuyo.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001730

In fact, I know some provinces nag-declare na ng state of calamity

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001731

because talagang hindi umuulan sa kanila.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001732

Meron pa ng mga forest fires.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001733

So dito sa mga affected areas,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001734

ang projected farmers and fisher folks na maapektuhan ng El Nino.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001735

Based on your projection.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001736

Sir, Mr. Chair, base dito sa aking figures,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001737

minimum of 2.795, 2.8 million farmers and fisher folks

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001738

ang maapektuhan ng El Nino.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001739

Ang mga mga apektuhan, individual yan, individual.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001740

Pero worst case scenario, baka 4.6 million.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001741

4.6 million, that's almost, tingin-tingin ako yung slides nyo kanina.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001742

Halos lahat na yun, ha.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001743

Kasi 6.7 million farmers, eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001744

Yun yung worst case scenario namin, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001745

This is the worst case scenario.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001746

So about 4 million out of the 9.6 million employment in the farming and fishery.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001747

10.4, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001748

Nasa RSVSA lang.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001749

So halos kalahati.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001750

Yeah, halos kalahati, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001751

Halos kalahati.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001752

Looking at the budget, alam ko itong nag-uusap nga kami ni Chairman Kiko,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001753

yung presidential assistance.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001754

To farmers and fisher folks.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001755

Of which, parang every year, nalalagay naman yun.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001756

Pero ang nakakapagtaka sa NEP, hindi nalalagay ng budget.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001757

Ina-augment na lang ng Congress.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001758

Like last time, na-augment ng 10 billion.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001759

I understand, dito sa GAB, na-augment ulit, no?

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001760

To 10 billion.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001761

So aside from, itong 10 billion, I would assume,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001762

is also geared towards helping the 4 million farmers.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001763

Tama po ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001764

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001765

And how do, how...

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001766

Paano makakatulong itong PAF, in presidential assistance,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001767

itong worst case scenario na 4 million farmers maapektuhan natin?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001768

Well, Mr. Chair, yung presidential assistance to farmers and fisher folks,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001769

that is basically cash assistance, direct cash assistance to our farmers who are affected.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001770

Of course, sarami ngayon ang affected at 4.6 million.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001771

Medyo maliit yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001772

But nag-uusap po kami sa kabinete.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001773

With other, like Secretary of DOLE, Secretary of DSWD,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001774

na we're pooling now our funds para nga kung may tinamaan ng El Nino na hindi na talaga makatanim

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001775

at walang trabaho.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001776

So may cash assistance, may food packs, may tupad,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001777

or maybe canal making or land preparation.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001778

So ganun ho ngayon yung diskarte namin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001779

And moving forward to address para hindi yung dekahunt kaming lahat.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001780

So kung saan kailangan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001781

kagaya yung may El Nino sa Camarines Norte na may tinamaan na area na doon,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001782

na binanggit namin kay Sec. Rex Gachelian,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001783

nagpadala ko kagad ng assistance ang DSWD in forms of cash din sa kanya dahil meron silang pondo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001784

Kasi mas mabilis mag-respond at mag-replenish ang DSWD.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001785

So parang ganun na ho yung...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001786

While 10 billion na PATH na ninalagay natin namin for 2027 sa direct cash assistance,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001787

meron na kami access ngayon sa DSWD through them,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001788

tsaka sa DOLI rin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001789

So yun ho yung mas magandang sistema namin ngayon.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001790

Later on, meron kaming ginawang special committee for economic recovery.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001791

And we included, si Majority Leader Migs,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001792

include niya na rin doon yung El Nino.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001793

So hingi kami ng detailed briefing on the government's response to El Nino.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001794

Kasi...

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001795

padating na siya eh.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001796

And it can be as worse as the Iran conflict in which yung presyo ng langis tumaas.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001797

Ito naman, triple whammy. Wala ka ng trabaho, wala ka ng output, wala pa tayong makakain.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001798

So we really need to make sure na ang gobyerno ay handa pagdating sa El Nino.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001799

And so far, narinig ko kanina sa inyong briefing na meron na kayong parang whole of government approach.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001800

To conserve resources between DOLE, DSWD, and DA.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001801

Ganun ba ang approach, Secretary, to itong mga vulnerable sectors?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001802

Yes, Mr. Chair. Not only that, pati sa DOH, meron din tayong collaborative with DOLE, DOH, DSWD, and maybe other agencies pa.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001803

OCD pala, pati sa OCD under the DND.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001804

Aside from PAF, what other components in the budget na gagamitin ninyo to respond to El Nino?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001805

Meron din tayo, Mr. Chair, fuel assistance, of course, some fertilizer support, seed support, and transport support, no?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001806

Yung logistic support na, like sa tollways, meron tayong mga agreement, and hopefully we can get more funding for that, among others, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001807

Thank you.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001808

So that's embedded already in the budget ng DA?

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001809

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001810

Thank you, thank you.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001811

And on a detailed submission na lang, pakisubmit na lang, Secretary, yung DA's response to the El Nino.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001812

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001813

I'll jump to another topic, Secretary, and ito na pag-usapan natin last year, yung farm-to-market roads.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001814

And for 2026, yung farm-to-market roads.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001815

Yung farm-to-market roads, nabigay, o tinransfer namin ni Senator Kiko, siya being the chairman of the budget of the DA, to the Department of Agriculture instead of the Department of Public Works.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001816

But nakita ko dito sa utilization for 2026, hindi pa siya nai-utilize to date.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001817

So, may we get a briefing on...

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001818

Tapos yung concept na yun, tinransfer natin sa DA, and then second, base dito sa aming report, doon sa 33 billion na farm-to-market roads, wala pang nagagawa for 2026.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001819

Before you answer, just to place on record, we'd like to acknowledge the presence of our minority leader, Senator Alan Cayetano.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001820

Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001821

Go ahead, please.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001822

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001823

Yung sa FMR...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001824

May transfer na ho sa amin yan, at may mga conditions under the GAAD for the transfer that we had to set up several offices, you know, get more people together.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001825

May delay kami sa requesting of SARO.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001826

But of course, na-request naman yung SARO namin, I think, by mid-year this year.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001827

But then, yung pera, dumating din lang September.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001828

At then, nung binigay sa amin yung pera ng September,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001829

it's an end of a quarter that we had to give it back, no?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001830

Yung pondo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001831

At inire-release lang ulit ngayon yung pondo sa amin this October.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001832

But on the positive note naman, Mr. Chair, we're ready to bid now.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001833

At finally, matutuloy na ho yung implementation ng FMR natin for 2026.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001834

And for 2027, pag na-approve na ho sa BICAM na yan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001835

we will be doing...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001836

pre-procurement basis sa NEP and short of award

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001837

so that magmapabilis namin yung implementation yan sa 2027 also, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001838

Itong 33 billion na FMR, kaka-transfer lang sa inyo, kaka-release lang ng SARO itong September?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001839

Actually, ang na-release lang sa amin is 4.2 billion, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001840

4.2 billion.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001841

So may...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001842

Nung September.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001843

Tapos binalik namin yan, we had to return it dahil may end of the month cut-off kami.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001844

Then binalik naman sa amin by this October lang yung 18 billion out of the 33, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001845

Okay.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001846

So magkano na ang na-release for 2026 lang?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001847

18...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001848

23 billion na pala.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001849

23 billion. Okay.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001850

And doon sa special provisions in which si Sen. Kiko ang nagsulat nun,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001851

may mga requirements, for example, yung transparency, ilalagay sa portal, ilalagay sa website.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001852

Ito ba ay naka-ayos na?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001853

Mr. Chair, naka-setup na ho at ready to go.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001854

So now, the challenge, nandito na yung challenge namin na maayos to at nakita na lahat ng tao how we perform.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001855

And I have required actually our team sa DA to give a monthly report.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001856

To me, on the status of each and every project with pictures, which I will also copy the committee chairman, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001857

In fact, during the last hearing, it was a challenge to you.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001858

Dahil doon sa DPWH, iba-iba yung presyo.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001859

But I remember during that time, you said the DA can construct it more efficiently and much cheaper through the BAFE.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001860

Ito ba ang BAFE?

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001861

I, ano ba ito, na-increase ba yung capacity nila?

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001862

Kasi yun rin yung isang worry namin, baka mabulunan yung BAFE, DA BAFE.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001863

Have you already capacitated yung BAFE?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001864

Well, we have increased its capacity but not enough, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001865

But it will be a challenge.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001866

It's not, hindi ito magiging madali but we will do our best.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001867

We assigned a special undersecretary just to look into all of this team para may nakatutok na 100% so that we do it properly.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001868

Yung sa presyo naman, at that time, we can make it lower.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001869

As of now, bumalik kami sa original considering naman na prices of everything has gone.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001870

Much, much higher.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001871

But we were able to maintain yung dating presyo at 15 million per kilometer

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001872

which even yung contractor, sinasabi, medyo maliit na yung margin nila

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001873

but payag naman na kailangan lahat ng trabaho at kailangan ng projects naman ng mga contractors.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001874

So for normal, on a normal condition, 15 million per kilometer pa ba ang cost?

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001875

Nang farm-to-market roads?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001876

Sa ngayon, yun ang tamang cost na yun.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001877

Yun ang tamang cost.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001878

Of course, as you inspected, may iba nasa Bangil, di ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001879

But on the average, assuming all things equal, 15 million ang cost.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001880

Yan yung average, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001881

Yan ang average.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001882

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001883

I'll just ask some more questions on my second round.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001884

Yes, thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001885

Senator JV, Chairman of the Committee,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001886

please, you have the floor.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001887

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001888

Good morning to Secretary Laurel, the DA family.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001889

This was asked earlier, no, ng ating po, Senate President,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001890

yung tungkol po sa Presidential Assistance to Farmers and Fisher Folk Program,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001891

being the Chair of the Committee on Finance,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001892

I noticed, as pointed out by our Senate President,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001893

wala po ito sa NEP, but it was included in the House,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001894

HGAB, or General Appropriations Bill from the House,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001895

sa 10 billion.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001896

Just want to ask, did the agency request it for this?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001897

O ang house ang naglagay nito?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001898

Yes.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001899

Nung pinapareho namin yung aming NEP, Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001900

we were given kasi a cap, fiscal cap.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001901

So, hindi namin sinama yung PAF initially,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001902

sa NEP request namin,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001903

but sa Congress, even actually sa Senate,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001904

i-request namin talaga na may dagdag yan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001905

dahil nga, it's the looming El Nino.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001906

So, kung madadagdagan pa yan, would be better,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001907

but then, pwede rin naman dagdagan yun sa DSWD,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001908

o kaya doon sa TUPAD,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001909

that's unnecessary sa amin,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001910

kasi nga, now we're working together naman eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001911

But we really have to prepare for El Nino,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001912

lalo na sa ating farmers and fisher folk.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001913

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001914

Well, actually, when I first reviewed the HGAB,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001915

nakita ko kasi, I got worried that the fund for the NDRMC,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001916

for the calamity fund, natanggal na 9.5 billion,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001917

but I saw this is a new entry.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001918

But when you said also na tingin din namin na para naman ito siguro,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001919

direct assistance to farmers and fisher folk,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001920

in anticipation of El Nino, okay din kami.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001921

And I agree with the House on this matter especially,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001922

pero doon sa iba, medyo may mga ayusin pa namin,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001923

may hindi kami isang ayon,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001924

but with this, with your endorsement also,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001925

tsaka kanina, napaliwanag yun naman kung paano nyo ito gagamitin,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001926

in anticipation of the super El Nino.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001927

Although NIA is not anymore under the Department of Agriculture,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001928

we had the...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001929

we already heard their budget.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001930

Ang earlier you mentioned,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001931

si Katari, nabanggit mo kanina yung ano, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001932

More irrigation is needed.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001933

But I...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001934

I...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001935

I propose to NIA to concentrate more on water impounding

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001936

and retention projects in the coming years, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001937

Because every time, every rainy season,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001938

sobra-sobra yung ulan natin.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001939

Kaya lang,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001940

toyo talagang walang-wala.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001941

So, parang sabi ko,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001942

if we continue on doing...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001943

on adding more irrigation,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001944

makadals and others,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001945

pero kung wala naman dadaloy na tubig, sayang din.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001946

So, yun lang.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001947

While you just like to ask for your opinion or position on this,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001948

do you think this will be a better choice?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001949

Because I think we'll be hitting two birds with one stone here.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001950

We'll be providing irrigation.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001951

We will be mitigating flood also.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001952

So, it will be for flood mitigation.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001953

At the same time, we will have the needed water during the dry days,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001954

especially now na meron tayo mga...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001955

Yung ilin ninyo na, as mentioned earlier,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001956

nagiging every three years na.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001957

Instead of the usual, sabi nyo kanina, ten years,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001958

nagiging five years.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001959

So, would you also endorse or suggest that we pursue that direction

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001960

of having more impounding, having more...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001961

dams in water retention facilities?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001962

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001963

Along that, pati aquaculture will thrive, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001964

Definitely, nung pumasok ako, Mr. Chair, sa DA,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001965

I already mentioned to many na

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001966

we are actually throwing away water.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001967

Ang lipis ho ng Pilipinas.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001968

Kung ang Palawan, mas manipis pa.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001969

Kung humulan ho sa gitna ng Palawan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001970

ang tubig na ulan na yun, in 12 hours na sa dagat na.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001971

Sa Luzon naman, ang calculation ko,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001972

kung humulan sa gitna ng Luzon, kung may linya sa gitna,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001973

ng malakas, in 48 hours na sa dagat na yung tubig na yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001974

Tapon ho yun.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001975

Kung lalagyan ho natin ng halaga yung tubig na humulan

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001976

at napunta sa dagat,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001977

I computed it at 500 billion pesos a year yun.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001978

A worth of water ang tinatapon natin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001979

So, ang ganda ho ng inyong push, Senator JV, Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001980

and I fully support na kailangan talaga natin ng warm water impounding.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001981

We have so much water to impound and we should impound it.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001982

And NIA, in my opinion, should concentrate on the big ticket items

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001983

like dams, water impounding, and all the major canals

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001984

and water impounding.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-001985

Water waste for our agriculture, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001986

Thank you for that, Secretary Laurel.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001987

Likewise, even DPWH, Secretary Dizon,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001988

I also suggested that instead of us concentrating on this flood mitigation project,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001989

or dating flood control, flood mitigation,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001990

para nangyari sisementohan lahat ng ano,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001991

lahat na pwedeng simentohan nating water waste,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001992

para mawala lahat ng tubig, ma-push back,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001993

nangyayari,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001994

wibilis lang yung takbo ng tubig para itapon.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001995

Di ba?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001996

Hindi pa na,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001997

hindi pa na reprelish yung groundwater,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001998

yung aquifer natin.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001999

Di ba?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002000

Nadideplete pa.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002001

That's why we have sinkholes.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002002

So, I think this has to be the,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002003

dapat magkaroon ng convergence ang NIA and DPWH

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002004

so that we will have,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002005

we will be preserving,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002006

we will be retaining more water on dry days.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002007

So, thank you for your opinion.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002008

I'm happy that you support this,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002009

and thank you for your support and for the direction.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002010

Sabi ko kaya yung mga sabo dams,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002011

dapat ganoon siguring gawin natin from the upland.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002012

We are cascading,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002013

mapabagal yung takbo ng tubig,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002014

pero we retain.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002015

Tama, may aquaculture,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002016

maraming pwedeng gawin for tourism

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002017

and even for, of course, for irrigation.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002018

And just like to assume,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002019

because of our fiscal space,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002020

very tightly in our fiscal space,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002021

normally most of the agencies,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002022

really suffered budget.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002023

As Chairman of the Committee of Finance, siguro basic lang, Secretary.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002024

Which of the programs would you appeal that be funded, na dapat ituloy?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002025

Because yung halimbawa, pati bare minimum na rin na kailangan nyo sana,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002026

I would like to find out, na increase in budget, kasi nga napakasikip.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002027

Very, ano tayong elbow room natin, but then again, we would like to find out as Chairman of Finance,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002028

na we do not want the productivity of the Department of Agriculture to be affected.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002029

So siguro yung dalang, just briefly, which programs would you suggest that we really prioritize?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002030

Siyempre, ganito naman yung budgetary, pang-appellate to sa mga tapyas,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002031

para maidagdago natin, so that we would consider.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002032

Anyway, the Vice Chair of Finance, Francis Pangilinan, will recommend, pero siguro,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002033

but probably could already brief us today, kung ano po yung mga major programs that you think that would lead,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002034

yung hindi pwedeng mawala, kung bagas sa inyong plano next, sa susunod na taon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002035

Mr. Chair, thank you.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002036

Yan nga namin yung expanded fertilizer assistance of about 8.7B,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002037

and yung mga hybrid solar-powered pump irrigation system,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002038

irrigation systems for fish production, retarding basin, basically for water impounding din talaga,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002039

yung mga SWIP projects namin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002040

Meron din kami yung request na sa masagana agri-food infrastructure modernization,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002041

mga post-harvest facilities, dahil nga, lalo na pag El Nino,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002042

may pagtataguan at madry at for milling, among others.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002043

Marami pang iba, but we will submit the list, Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002044

para for your guidance and to the good Senator J.B. Ejercito. Thank you, sir.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002045

Thank you for that.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002046

Sige, we'll just, we'll review also, yung inyong listahan.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002047

24 billion.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002048

Wala, medyo 24 billion.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002049

Yung mga, yung mga,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002050

ang medyo malaki, pero we'll do our best, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002051

Siyempre, ayaw naman nating mawala, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002052

Because I think, yung itong Middle East crisis have taught us lesson,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002053

na talaga, we really have to strengthen our food security and yung self-reliance, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002054

And then, siguro, pwede din tayo magtanong sa, sa BFAR is here, BFAR,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002055

Sir Saldy Perez.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002056

Just like to ask, continues naman yung ating, yung ating po,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002057

fisher folks, especially in the disputed areas, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002058

Can you, ano, can you just briefly, ano na, kung paano yung operation po natin doon?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002059

How many vessels are assigned?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002060

How many personnel?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002061

How many liters of gasoline are being distributed to our fisher folks in this area,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002062

dun sa West Philippine Sea area?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002063

Thank you.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002064

To our, ah, Chair, Sir Francis Mangilinan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002065

Go ahead, Director Salilig.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002066

Members of the Committee, Colleagues of the Government,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002067

ang aming good secretary, ang gandang tanghali.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002068

The Bureau of Fisheries, we continue to support to our, especially sa fuel subsidy,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002069

ah, for...

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002070

piskalyer 2025 ah, namigay po kami ng 11,894

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002071

ah, na mga fisher folks po ang nakatanggap and then using fuel card, 11, 172 for fuel voucher.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002072

Ah, we have seven hundred twenty-two and then ang target namin doon sa piskalyer 2025,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002073

At least 23,504 na mga fisherfolk yung po ay mga motorized bangka.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002074

In addition, nagbigay po yung ating magiting na presidente ng 1 billion.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002075

Yun po ay nakabigay kami ng 11,172 na mga fisherfolk through using fuel cards and boat charts.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002076

Until now, ang ongoing po ang aming distribution para ma-reach po ang ating mga target beneficiaries in addition to 105,126 fisherfolk beneficiaries are expected to receive our uplift funded fuel assistance program before the end of December 2026.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002077

So, all in all, ang aming budget is sa mag-end of December 2026, we have 1 billion.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002078

Ilang beses po ang ano dyan? May naka-assign yung beses dyan?

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002079

Yes, Mr. Chair. Mayroon po tayong...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002080

Because with the continued harassment of our fishermen in the West Philippine Sea by the Chinese Coast Guard and militia,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002081

of course, we want to find out what concrete assistance DA and the BFAR is providing to our communities.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002082

Yung period dyan.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002083

Sorry, sorry.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002084

Yung period dyan.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002085

Mr. Chair, sanday lang ha.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-002086

Hinaarap ko pa yung...

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002087

With the indulgence of our National Director,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002088

we deployed 30-meter vests.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002089

And 50-meter vessels po in the West Philippine Sea.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002090

And then we provided as well boats or fishing boats to our fisher folk for regions 1, 3, and 4B.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002091

So, and then we provided po yung fuel subsidy for all those fisher folk operating on those area, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002092

Is that daily?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002093

Sabi ko, nagdarasyon tayo ng fuel or may schedule po yan?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002094

Yung fuel po namin, Mr. Chair, bali po, dun lang po sa available na pondo po natin.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002095

But right now, it's good news po that we have this 1 billion pesos for our uplift to be distributed to our fisher folk po.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002096

So, including po yung those fisher folk operating in regions...

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002097

1, 3, and 4B, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002098

Pero yun pa rin ang ano, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002099

That is still one of the richest in marine resources, to.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002100

Kaya talagang...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002101

Doon talaga nangingisahan to.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002102

Pero is it true that, ano, almost 21,000 acres of coral reefs already are sa West Philippine Sea area?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002103

Ano na, nasira na?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002104

Do you have any news?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002105

With that, Your Honor, we don't have the assessment yet.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002106

But, of course, with the...

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002107

deployment of our vessel, we can...

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002108

pretty sure that we can assess the area.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez

asr-002109

But, of course, considering that there's no harassment at all, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002110

Actually, I want to ask naman sa farm-to-market roads.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002111

For 2013, the DA is proposing 16 billion for farm-to-market roads.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002112

Bawat taon, iniulat kung ilang kilometre na kalsada ang natapos.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002113

Sa kanatilang magsasakaba talaga ang nakikinabang.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002114

So, taon-taon din kasi may mga balita pa rin tukol sa mga gulay at iba pang ani na nabubulok

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002115

at tinatapo na lang at hindi maibenta sa maayos na presyo.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002116

So, malaki yung papel ng middleman.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002117

So, question.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002118

So, for next year, sa farm-to-market road,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002119

how many kilometres is ang natin ang intended to construct for next year?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002120

So, yung sa 16 billion, 16 billion na ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002121

Mr. Chair, yung sa 16 billion na yun, 1,100, almost 1,100 kilometres, sir, ang farm-to-market road.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002122

And, also, I'd like to touch on yung sa cold storage, Secretary.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002123

In 2025, the cold storage expansion project reported disbursed only 1.4% of its

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002124

allocation.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002125

So, of course, alam nyo naman ngayon, masikip.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002126

So, we would, we want to make sure that this is all utilized and dispersed, yung mga pondo.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002127

Ayaw natin maglagay ng hindi magagamit ngayon dahil nga sa sikip.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002128

So, what caused the delays and how many cold storage facilities have actually been completed

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002129

and made operational?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002130

So, siguro, yun muna.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002131

I admit that we had a slow start.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002132

Sa aming mga cold storage projects due to technical design issues.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002133

But, fortunately, tamang-tama lang po yung tanong ninyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002134

Tuloy-tuloy na namin inaugurate yung mga cold storage facilities na tinatayo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002135

Actually, I was just in Camarines Sur and we turned over four setups already.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002136

Earlier this year, we inaugurated.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002137

We inaugurated our first mega cold storage in Pili, Kamsur.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002138

Yung sa Taguig na cold storage natin should be completed by middle of next year.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002139

Cabanatuan will be, mega cold storage will be completed by next year.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002140

San Jose, Mindoro, and ano pa isa?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002141

Ang malaking bagay for the onions, ano?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002142

San Jose, Mindoro, isang mega.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002143

Tsaka, ano yung katabi niya?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002144

Sa Sablayan, Mindoro also.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002145

Sa Manolo Fortich.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002146

Sa Sablayan lang, magtatayo rin tayo ng isang cold storage na malaki.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002147

At total modular cold storage natin is about 70 units of which tuloy-tuloy na ho yung turnover niya.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002148

So, pumilis na ho at I'm happy to note that medyo yung farmer beneficiaries natin quite happy na meron na silang solar powered and wind powered battery storage, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002149

Well, that's good news for our local production, Secretary.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002150

Let me move on to, ano, of course, that one, another sector that is close to my heart because coming from Negros, I saw Sir Paul Alcaza Ascona here, SRA.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002151

My mother coming from, who hails from Negros, of course, sugar industry is very close to us.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002152

SIDA has a mandated annual funding allocation under the law.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002153

Yet funding has always fallen short. Under the 2027 NEP, 1 billion

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002154

is allocated to the SRA with the limited budget of SIDA.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002155

How can we ensure that the full intended budget for SIDA programs is actually released and properly utilized to help our sugar cane farmers?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002156

Siguro pwede nga na?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002157

Si ating SRA administrator will take advantage of your presence.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002158

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002159

Thank you, Senator JV.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002161

Yeah.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002162

So, so far, for the last...

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002163

Prior to 2022, our SIDA budget went down to as low as 300 million, 500 million.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002164

Yes, I asked, pero 2 billion niya nung muna na.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002165

Yes.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002166

On the first year po, sir.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002167

Because it was not utilized, it went down to 500.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002168

Now, low as 300.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002169

So now, it's back to 1 billion.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002170

Yes po, Mr. Chair.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002171

For the last three years po, 1 billion.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002172

And then this year, yung alam ko po is 1 billion ulit.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002173

We have...

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002174

We have carried over...

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002175

I think almost 500 million kasi na-unutilized ever since before.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002176

And for the last three years, we've tried our best to spend yung previous po.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002177

So, we've been spending over 1 billion for the last two years.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002178

And hopefully, if given 2 billion, we will be able to fully utilize it, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002179

Yes, sir.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002180

We're hoping that it will be...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002181

It will be used effectively and maximized.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002182

Siyempre, tayo, ano eh, I'm the author of the Sugarcane Industry Development Act

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002183

with the intent of reviving the sugar industry of Negros.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002184

Ang ano lang na, how about dun sa ano, how is the RSS affecting our sugar production?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002185

Talagang minsan, hindi tayo inaabot ng swerte sa sugar industry.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002186

Tinamaan pa tayo ng peste, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002187

So, how is the sugar industry coping with it now?

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002188

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002189

So far, our production in 2024-2025 was...

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002190

Since 2022-2025, we've been growing, actually, in production.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002191

Our peak happened in 2024-2025, we produced over 2 million tons.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002192

And then, in 2025-2026, because of El Nino and the onset of RSS IPO,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002193

we went down to 1.85.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002194

And this year, in anticipation for the drastic decrease in rainfall on a year-on-year comparison,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002195

our estimated production is down to 1.6 million.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002196

And that's fighting RSSI as well.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002197

RSSI po kasi, Mr. Chair, is not part of any budget, even SIDA.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002198

SIDA kasi po is pre-allocated to certain items only.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002199

And we hope and pray to the...

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002200

Committee and to the Chairman po, sana, that we can have additional budget to fight this new pest, RSSI,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002201

which we never anticipated for Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002202

But how are we coping with it?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002203

Meron na tayong solution for fighting the RSSI?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002204

And also, were we able to provide assistance to the sugarcane farmers?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002205

And how many in anticipation of the RSSI and may super-el-lino pa?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002206

So that we can prepare already, syempre as budget chair, as finance chair, I would like to find out.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002207

Yes. Mr. Chair, for the initial first year po of RSSI in Negros,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002208

SRA from its meager corporate budget po spent about 188 million in assistance to farmers.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002209

This includes chemicals, fertilizer, and others, among others.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002210

And from SIDA, we were able to utilize about 28 million.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002211

So it's a total of 209 million.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002212

Now for this year...

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002213

The DA extended 35 million directly to LGUs

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002214

because we had issues on how to fight RSSI with the province and the other agencies.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002215

So there's 35 million directly to LGUs.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002216

And I think a total of 400-something million of assistance to farmers and farm workers po

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002217

at 10,000 per farmer or per worker po through DSWD po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002218

So, just a...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002219

Anyway, I'm hoping that we'll be able to overcome this RSSI problem and super-el-lino.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002220

But nonetheless, I'm also...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002221

Yung commitment also of the SRA that the timing of the importation will now be...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002222

Will not coincide with the harvest season.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002223

So, kasi konti na rin ikikitain nila.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002224

So, huwag na natin sasabayan.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002225

Dapat na lang.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002226

We understand.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002227

of all of these factors

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002228

that we need to import also because of the

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002229

shortage but yung timing na lang

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002230

I'm hoping that we can get

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002231

your commitment that

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002232

SRA will

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002233

only issue

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002234

authority to import

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002235

not during harvest season.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002236

Mr. Chair,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002237

yes, I think

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002238

the Secretary po and the

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002239

SRA are committed to

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002240

use importation

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002241

on a per-need basis po.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002242

It may or may not happen during harvest

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002243

season but we will only do it if

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-002244

we really need to do it po, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002245

Thank you.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002246

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002247

Thank you,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002248

Senator JV.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002249

We now have Senator Zubiri,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002250

Senator Migs, our majority leader.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002251

You have 10 minutes.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002252

I likewise before Senator Zubiri like to greet

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002253

Secretary Laurel. Happy birthday, sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002254

Related happy birthday.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002255

Related happy birthday.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002256

October 16? 17?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002257

Ka-birthday mo yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002258

my one and only

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002259

older brother,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002260

Joseph. He's also

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002261

Libra.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002262

Go ahead.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002263

Thank you very much. Ka-birthday nga nang

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002264

asawa ko ng Libra. October 11 yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002265

isis ko. Mababait daw yung mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002266

Libran. Anyway,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002267

Mr. President, ah, Mr. Chairman,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002268

halatang

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002269

magagandang mga, mababait

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002270

ng mga tanong ni Chairman natin, Chairman

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002271

JV, dahil meron daw silang

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002272

Xavier Mafia. Binulong sa akin

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002273

kanina. Puro mga graduate ng

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002274

Xavier yan. Magagaling. Anyway,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002275

Mr. President, Mr. Chairman, if I may,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002276

I'll be remiss to ask

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002277

these questions because I'll ask,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002278

you know, I'm an LB

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002279

grad and all my LB

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002280

alumni are asking

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002281

me to

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002282

participate in the

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002283

DA budget hearings.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002284

Ang akin lang, Sec, I know it's very

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002285

difficult. Alam mo, Chairman,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002286

napakahirap talaga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002287

maging regulator at the same

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002288

time

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002289

supporter of

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002290

farmers all over the country.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002291

I know, I understand your

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002292

predicament. Napakahirap dahil binabalansin

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002293

niyo po yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002294

pangangailangan ng mga magsasaka

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002295

at yung presyo ng

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002296

bilihin sa merkado.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002297

In a way,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002298

kung mag-pro-farmer kayo at

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002299

pinagbabawal po natin yung importation,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002300

ay,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002301

masaya po mga magsasaka

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002302

pero napaka, tumataas naman

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002303

ang presyo ng bilihin dahil kulang

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002304

ang produksyon ng ating

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002305

produkto ng agrikultura.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002306

So,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002307

pag naman sobra naman po kayong

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002308

pro-importation, kawawa naman po

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002309

yung mga magsasaka, naiiwan po sila,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002310

bumababa naman ang presyo ng

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002311

produkto sa merkado.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002312

Pero yun nga, ang give and take, yan ang problema

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002313

dyan. The reason I ask this,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002314

Mr. Chairman, is the

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002315

price of pork recently

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002316

has gone really down.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002317

Kawawa-kawawa po yung ating mga pork producers.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002318

Mr. Chairman, 80%

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002319

ng ating pork producers are backyard farmers.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002320

Only 20% pong malalaki.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002321

At itong mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002322

20% na malalaking kumpanya,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002323

kaya po nilang mabuhay, maski na malugi

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002324

ng konti, kaya po nilang, pero itong

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002325

80% na ating mga magsasaka

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002326

ay talagang kawawang-kawawa.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002327

And I just like to read

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002328

Mr. Chairman, yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002329

itong

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002330

mabilis lang po na

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002331

statement

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002332

na nababasa ko, kasi yung feed ko po

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002333

ay nasa mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002334

mga magsasakat,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002335

mga iba't-ibang racers,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002336

hog racers, manok,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002337

mga poultry racers.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002338

We are calling for urgent intervention.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002339

This is from the Bukidnon Backyard

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002340

Hog Racers Group.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002341

Dahil sa amin sa Bukidnon,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002342

talagang hirap na hirap po sila. Marami po

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002343

nagsira ng mga backyard farmers.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002344

And we are calling for urgent intervention

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002345

as buying prices of hogs in our

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002346

province continues to crash.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002347

And

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002348

they are lamenting that DA has not

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002349

taken action. Ang nangyayari

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002350

is hog prices are plummeting,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002351

feed and supply costs are skyrocketing.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002352

Ito po, and I quote, no?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002353

Yung livelihoods po nila in the breaking

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002354

point. And

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002355

Mr. Chairman, ito ang

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002356

lumalabas nung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002357

2022,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002358

Secretary,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002359

yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002360

farmgate prices per kilo ng ating

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002361

mga magsasaka, lalo na sa mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002362

hog racers, ay 179 pesos

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002363

per kilo. Nung 2023,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002364

177 per kilo.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002365

Nung 2024,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002366

185 pesos per kilo

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002367

ang farmgate prices.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002368

Ngayon po, nung end of

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002369

2025, 170. Ngayon po,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002370

90 pesos to 120

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002371

pesos per kilo ang

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002372

farmgate price. Ang laki po ng bagsak,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002373

Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002374

Eh, yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002375

ang sabi po nila,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002376

dahil po sa napakanaming importation

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002377

na nangyayari po sa

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002378

pork

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002379

products, including poultry products,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002380

Mr. Secretary,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002381

has the DA done anything?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002382

I know there's recent pronouncements, may mga bagong

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002383

pronouncements mong DA, na kayo mismo

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002384

nagsalita, na nagsabi po kayo na

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002385

medyo sobra nga ang importation

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002386

na yun. Would you be able to

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002387

brief the committee now,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002388

Secretary, kung ano pang mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002389

hakbang ang ginagawa po ninyo

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002390

para naman

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002391

maitigil po ang massive

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002392

importation nito mga pork and

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002393

poultry products na kawawang-kawawang

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002394

po yung mga backyard racers po natin.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002395

Mr. Secretary, may

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002396

Chairman may ask.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002397

Go ahead.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002398

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002399

Actually, a number of my questions later will be on that.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002400

Go ahead.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002401

Baka masagot ko na lahat ng tanong ninyo, ma'am.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002402

Ngayon, sa tungkol sa pork,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002403

unang-una gusto ko lang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002404

ipabatid sa lahat at sa taong bayan

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002405

na ang DA ho at ako ho

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002406

ay ang kakampi ng pork industry.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002407

We are for the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002408

local pork producers.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002409

We are not in favor of

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002410

importers. Yun lang ho. Gusto ko unang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002411

linawin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002412

Kaya lang, bound kami

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002413

by international rules

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002414

and agreements

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002415

made by my

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002416

predecessors about pork

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002417

and chicken that we cannot just

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002418

stop

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002419

importation just like

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002420

that on a whim.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002421

Kung gusto ho natin yun, ang request ko

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002422

sa ating Kongreso at ating Senado,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002423

gawan ho nyo ako ng batas

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002424

na pwede ko arbitrarily

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002425

hintuin ang kahit

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002426

anong importation, kahit

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002427

may bilateral agreements na under

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002428

the RTO for a short period of time

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002429

to correct any situation.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002430

Kung meron ho ako noon,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002431

pwedeng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002432

pwedeng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002433

ah

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002434

gagawin ko

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002435

kaagad yun.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002436

Sek, Sek, just with your respect,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002437

Sek, pero other countries

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002438

are doing it under the phytosanitary

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002439

permit. Alam ko yung sinasabi

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002440

kasi nila is WTO

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002441

etc. etc. But whenever

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002442

we use that also when we import

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002443

to other countries, ang sagot ng ibang bansa

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002444

ay hindi kayo pumapasa sa phytosanitary

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002445

permit namin. Hindi sila

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002446

nagbabay, nagbabayalate din po sila ng

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002447

WTO, World Trade Organization.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002448

Pwede ho yun, Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002449

kung, kung,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002450

kung isang bansa lang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002451

nagsusupay, iipitin mo yung isang bansa,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002452

sabihin mo, ganon, pwede yun. Pero

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002453

ang raming supplying na bansa eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002454

Diba? Hindi mo natin pwedeng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002455

sabihin lahat.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002455-split-2

Pwedeng sumabat lang, sorry.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002456

Sabat lang ako ah

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002457

kay Senator Suviria

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002458

with the indulgence of our chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002459

Ang problema kasi dyan, yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002460

Executive Order 116 na

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002461

pinirmahan nitong taon, May 19

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002462

ng Pangulo, drastically

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002463

increased the mob for imported

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002464

pork meat. Hindi nangangailangan ng bagong

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002465

batas. Paltan lang yan.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002466

Bakit naman kasi, in-expand

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002467

masyado, tapos yung taripa, binagsak

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002468

masyado. Talagang walang kalaban-laban.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002469

Yun lang.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002470

Sagutin ko lang yun, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002471

Yung EO na yun, tama ho yung EO na yun.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002472

I am defending that EO.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002473

That is in case naman,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002474

dahil nangyari ang EO, dahil dati

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002475

tumaas masyado naman ang presyo ng baboy

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002476

sa merkado at

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002477

consumer naman ang kawawa. Ito nga ho yung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002478

balancing act eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002479

Yung EO ng ating Pangulo na yan, hindi ho

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002480

tinrigger yan. That is a safeguard

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002481

EO in case

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002482

magkabaligtad

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002483

naman ang sitwasyon. So, huwag ho tayo

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002484

mag-alala dyan. Tungkol naman,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002485

babalik lang ho ako dun sa

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002486

SPSIC na sabihin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002487

sa ano,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002488

ang problema ho natin,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002489

Mr. Chair, is kailangan natin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002490

ihinto lahat ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002491

importasyon for at least 60

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002492

days from all origins.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002493

Hindi naman

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002494

natin pwedeng gawin yung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002495

sinasuggest kanina

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002496

na all origins. Lahat yan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002497

ang Amerika, ang UK,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002498

ang Canada,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002499

ang Australia,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002500

ang Brazil,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002501

magre-reklamo

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002502

at sa file lang tayo ng kaso.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002503

But the SEC, so what is

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002504

the solution?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002505

I'll be honest with you, ang problema

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002506

and every time nagme-meeting kami,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002507

I'm racking my brains,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002508

ang taas ng presyo ng bilihin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002509

Meron kami,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002510

ang solution, Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002511

ang DA ho ay talagang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002512

isinulong na namin ilang beses

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002513

hanggang ngayon. Nag-request na kami

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002514

itaras, taas ang taripa,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002515

ibalik sa 40%.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002516

Lahat ho tayo magkasundo rito dun.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002517

Wala tayong nag-aaway dito

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002518

at gusto kong pabatid sa ating mga

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002519

hog racers, kakampinyo kami dyan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002520

Kaya lang,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002521

at nag-file na kami, nasa proseso

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002522

na ho yan. Kaya lang, of course, there are

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002523

other forces at or

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002524

other people who have different opinions

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002525

about it.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002525-split-2

Kasi alam ko, nag-petition

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002526

na kayo sa Tariff Commission.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002527

Ang tanong, e 2028 pa ba

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002528

yung 30% at 40%?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002529

Talagang 25% ba yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002530

in-quota and 35% yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002531

out-quota forever?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002532

Wala bang magawa dyan?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002533

Hindi naman ganun ang aming pronouncement,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002534

Madam Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002535

Nung sinabit namin, yun yung una.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002536

Kasi nakita ko, nag-petition talaga kayo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002537

Iba na ho ang posisyon namin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002538

Ang posisyon namin, diretso na tayo.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002539

Mr. Chair, I just like to ask,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002540

kasi may nagkakaproblema, Mr. Chairman,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002541

din sa technical smuggling.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002542

Even if you bring it at 40%,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002543

alam ko po, pag

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002544

bumababayan dito,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002545

binibenta pa rin yan, hinahalo

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002546

sa local markets,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002547

na galing po itong local.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002548

Kaya, ang nangyayari,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002549

nakakatipid po sila dito sa 40%

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002550

na taripa. Hindi naman natin

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002551

kontrolado yung customs, di ba?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002552

Hindi nyo naman kontrolado yun.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002553

Ang punto ko lang,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002554

Mr. Chairman and dear Secretaries,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002555

I'll ask this question first.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002556

Why is it that the farm-to-market price

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002557

na bilihin ang ating mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002558

backyard ay

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002559

90 to 120,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002560

110 pesos, na napakababa,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002561

which is below their cost of production?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002562

Kasi ang cost of production nila,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002563

130 pesos per kilo,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002564

140, lugi sila.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002565

Bakit po ang presyo sa merkado

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002566

ay napakamahal pa rin?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002567

Yan ang hindi ko maintindihan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002568

Kasi ang taas ng inflation, di ba?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002569

Let's face it, napakatas ng inflation.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002570

We're one of the highest in Southeast Asia.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002571

Galit na galit ang tao sa gobyerno.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002572

Galit na galit ang tao sa presidente.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002573

Pero hindi ko maintindihan

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002574

bakit nahirap-nahirap ang ating mga magsasaka

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002575

sa napakababang presyo

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002576

ng farmgate prices nila.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002577

Wala pa tayong monitoring.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002578

So, I'm asking, what is the price

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002579

difference now

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002580

between the farm-to-market

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002581

farmgate price of pork

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002582

and poultry?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002583

And why has it not

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002584

gone down in the market

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002585

itself? Bakit ganyan, Sek?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002586

Magkano ang retail prices

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002587

ng pork ngayon?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002588

Ang liyempo, Mr. Chair, is P380.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002589

Kasim-Pigay is P330.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002590

P330.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002591

Ang imported liyempo is

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002592

P270-P280.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002593

Ang imported

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002594

kasim-Pigay is

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002595

P240 yata.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002596

Okay, so sinasabi nga,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002597

yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002598

farmgate price,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002599

for example, this is from the DA,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002600

is P166.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002601

Depende saan siguro,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002602

on average.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002603

Sa amin sa Mindanao, P90-P100 lang.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002604

Tapos, ang retail is

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002605

P380.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002606

Asalim po, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002607

So, assuming

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002608

P90-P100,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002609

P120,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002610

so, P380,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002611

ganun yung gap from farmgate

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002612

to,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002613

to wet market.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002614

Now, if we check

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002615

yung DA data naman,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002616

P166

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002617

ang farmgate price.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002618

Farmgate.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002619

This is

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002620

from Farmgate

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002621

166. Pero...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002622

PSA data

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002623

huya times.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002624

Hindi, DA ang nagbigay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002625

Oh, DA. No, this is

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002626

Farmgate 166. Assuming lang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002627

it's correct.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002628

Ang production cost ng

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002629

farmers according to ProPork

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002630

is 182.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002631

So, ibig sabihin,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002632

binibili ng bentalo sa

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002633

16 pesos palugi.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002634

No?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002635

This, maraming probinsya po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002636

19 to 120 live weight

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002637

Farmgate. Live weight and farmgate.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002638

Sa Kasim,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002639

380 sa merkado. So, you can look,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002640

you can see the, from 166

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002641

to

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002642

380.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002643

So, 166,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002644

266,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002645

366. So, 220

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002646

pesos ang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002647

difference between

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002648

Farmgate and retail.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002649

Sinong kumikita ron?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002650

Ah, Mr. Chair, kumikita

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002651

dyan, Mr. Chair, is retailer

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002652

and middleman, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002653

Yun na nga. Now,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002654

and then you're going to the question

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002655

of, are we

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002656

monitoring yung mga

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002657

imported na frozen?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002658

Are we monitoring

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002659

their cold

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002660

storage facilities?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002661

Sila ba ay naglalabas o

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002662

hindi nila nilalabas? Yun din ang tanong.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002663

Because,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002664

Mr. Chair,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002665

in the same line, just to put it

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002666

in the same line of

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002667

thought, ang landed

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002668

cost ng imported pork

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002669

is about

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002670

$3

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002671

right now. Yun ang submissions

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002672

din ng DA.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002673

$3 is

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002674

180 pesos.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002675

Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002676

So, pagka

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002677

180 pesos yung landed cost,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002678

pero

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002679

270 to

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002680

280,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002681

no, ang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002682

retail.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002683

So, malaki pa rin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002684

Malaki pa rin ng gap.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002685

So, Mr. Chairman, tanong ko lang sa

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002686

Secretary,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002687

is there a price monitoring

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002688

team? Does the DA have a

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002689

price monitoring team that can

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002690

actually feed this to the DTI? Kasi

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002691

ang DTI may powers po yan

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002692

sa price monitoring,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002693

di ba? Kasi,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002694

naawa po ako sa gobyerno.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002695

Bugbog na bugbog sila sa taong bayan

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002696

kasi galit na galit yung mga farmers.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002697

Galit na galit yung tao.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002698

Dahil ang mahal daw ng presyo ng

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002699

produkto. Tapos yung mga magsasaka,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002700

lugi sila. Hindi nila alam

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002701

bakit ang taas ng presyo

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002702

ng bilihin, pero sa kanila

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002703

ang napakababa ng

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002704

farmgate prices. Talagang it

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002705

blows the mind.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002706

And I feel for

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002707

government.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002708

But I know you're in a difficult spot,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002709

Mr. Secretary. Ano kayang mga hakbang na gaon?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002710

Ano kayang gagawin po ng department

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002711

to do the price regulations and monitoring?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002712

Ang analysis ko dyan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002713

Mr. Chair, is ganito.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002714

It's a sort of perfect storm din

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002715

for the consumers,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002716

for the pork industry.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002717

Nag-increase ang production,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002718

nag-increase ang importation,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002719

bumaba ang demand.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002720

Ang affordability ng tao.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002721

So yun ang nangyari dyan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002722

Kaya nag-collapse din lahat. Plus may ASF

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002723

issue pa. Ang gagawin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002724

ng DA ngayon, we've actually,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002725

we've actually done steps already

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002726

to trigger yung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002727

safeguard duties. We've proposed

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002728

tariff increases.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002729

And with yung pag-trigger namin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002730

na safeguard duties, pag nag-review

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002731

na ang tariff commission, at a certain

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002732

point, X number

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002733

of days, meron na kaming

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002734

magiging power to

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002735

do quantitative restriction

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002736

for up to 200 days.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002737

So sa estimate ko,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002738

rough estimate

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002739

lang to, wag yung lagay itagal.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002740

Lala lang sa bato yung aking sasabihin na time,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002741

plus or minus yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002742

By November 15,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002743

baka pwede na akong mag-suspend

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002744

ng importation ng Kasimpigay at

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002745

Beli for 60 days.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002746

Or stop of issuance of new

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002747

SPSIC. Yun ho ang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002748

hakbang na ginagawa. Pinlano na namin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002749

ito a few months, but we cannot really announce this.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002750

Pag in-announce namin kaget to,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002751

actually, ayaw kong sabihin to.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002752

Kasi,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002753

kasi ayaw kong sabihin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002754

Kung sasabihin ko to,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002755

baka tumaas bigla

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002756

ang mga presyo eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002757

Inflationary.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002758

That's why even sa mga Senate hearings,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002759

Congressional hearings, sana hindi ako

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002760

itanong sa mga volumes na i-import ko.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002761

Sa mga ganitong gagawin namin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002762

masyado, kung pwede executive session

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002763

because it will disrupt

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002764

I understand.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002765

I understand. Lalaruin ng mga importers yan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002766

Pero, then you penalize

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002767

them for overpricing.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002768

That we have the power to penalize

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002769

them.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002770

Goodness. With the DTI,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002771

di ba? We can do that.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002772

The DTI, sir.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002773

It's called predatory pricing.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002774

Ang dami natin namin pasan ng mga batas dito

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002775

na sinama namin yun.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002776

Lalo na sa, yung sa rice importation,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002777

di ba? Yung pagkakit natin ng taripa.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002778

We put a provision there on predatory pricing

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002779

na hindi pwedeng tumaas

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002780

ng katakot-takot.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002781

Ilang beses na tayo nandito.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002782

Kaya minsan, di na ako nag-attend ng budget hearing

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002783

sa totoo lang. Kasi, paulit-ulit lang naman yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002784

kwento eh. With your respect to the

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002785

Secretary, I'm talking about many budgets

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002786

of many departments and I've been

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002787

to many.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002787-split-2

If I may just add,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002788

you have the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002789

price app, you have the consumer

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002790

protection app. The DTI is

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002791

empowered to

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002792

call

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002793

the retailers who are overpricing

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002794

or who are doing predatory pricing.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002795

You can put in place

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002796

a suggested retail price

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002797

and if it's over that,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002798

the DTI can come in.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002799

So, maybe

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002800

at least for pork,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002801

ayusin na natin ito. Because the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002802

information that was

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002803

relayed to me is the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002804

local pork and hog industry

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002805

is losing about 350 million pesos

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002806

a day.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002807

Sa lugi nila. At marami na

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002808

ang nagsasara. Dahil nga

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002809

nagbebenta ng palugi.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002810

Dagdag pa ng lugi dahil yung transport

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002811

cost, etc.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002812

So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002813

what we're asking the department

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002814

is to strengthen

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002815

your links with the DTI and

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002816

address at least focus

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002817

on the issue of pork

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002818

prices at this time.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002819

Mr. Chair, may I

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002820

just add, Senator Subiri, we're

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002821

always pointing to the DTI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002822

for price regulation

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002823

but the reality is that the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002824

Department of Agriculture has direct

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002825

legal authority to inspect, monitor

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002826

and penalize food price

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002827

gouging and illegal price

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002828

gouging.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002829

Price manipulation. That's very clear

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002830

under RA 7581

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002831

under the newly enacted

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002832

RA 12022

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002833

the Anti-Agricultural

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002834

Economic Sabotage Act.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002835

At ang bibigat,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002836

ang bibigat ng aming linagay

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002837

na mga parusa

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002838

dyan. Sobrang lalaki ng

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002839

parusa. May imprisonment

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002840

5 to 15 years.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002841

Pwede kayong mag-show cost

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002842

2 million. Pwede para

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002843

sa standard violations under the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002844

Price Act. DA has the power

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002845

up to life imprisonment

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002846

under economic sabotage and

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002847

5 times the value of whatever they're

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002848

selling. So gamitin po ninyo

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002849

yung binigay na kapangyarihan

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002850

sa DA.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002851

Madam, Mr. Chair, I totally agree with the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002852

good Senator. Sa part na yun

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002853

pwede na kami doon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002854

Problema hindi ito yung problema ngayon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002855

Ang problema ngayon, pababa ang presyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002856

Pababa ang presyo

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002857

ng farmgate prices

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002858

but not the...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002859

Retail prices also went down.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002860

Based on our record, retail prices

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002861

also went down by 9.55%

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002862

for Kasim.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002863

For Liempo, it's 7.05%.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002864

So, bumaba din.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002865

Bumaba ng malaki dito. Bumaba ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002866

konti dito.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002867

Sana po, Secretary.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002868

Wala ho kaming way na paano pataasin.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002869

I understand and I hope those rates

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002870

are true. Pero yun nga, yung lumalabas

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002871

na PSA rates, yung pagkain po

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002872

ay napakamahal. But anyway,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002873

again, I said it's a very

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002874

difficult balancing act, Sec.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002875

Pero yung hindi ko na

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002876

nakikita na yun, Mr. Secretary

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002877

and Mr. Chairman. Dati,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002878

the Secretary of the DA

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002879

and the DTI Secretary

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002880

umiikot yan sa iba't ibang

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002881

merkado. Tinitignan ba?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002882

Overpriced ito. Okay na presyong

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002883

ito. Hindi ko nakikita po na yun,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002884

Mr. Secretary. With your respect,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002885

I think the people just want to see

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002886

more action from the government

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002887

and actionable

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002888

on the ground.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002889

Di ba't trabaho ng AMAS yan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002890

AMAS.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002891

Anyway, nandiyan ba yung AMAS?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002892

Mr. Chairman, may ikot ko.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002893

Ito, kaibigan ko, si Tito Scarag.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002894

Barkada ko ito. This guy is magaling sa enforcement.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002895

Yan ang ipaikot mo sa mga merkado.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002896

Pag nagalit yan, ay sigurado

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002897

makikinig yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002898

taong bayan sa kanya. This guy's a good

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002899

enforcer. He's a good friend of ours.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002900

May daily price index,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002901

di ba, nationwide? At

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002902

nasa batas na yung,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002903

Agribusiness Marketing Assistance Service

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002904

will conduct regular market monitoring,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002905

surprise inspections in

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002906

wet markets and urban trade hubs.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002907

Nasa batas po.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002908

Mr. Chair, we are actually

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002909

inspecting daily. I have a daily report

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002910

of all major markets.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002911

And umiikot kami ng DTI talaga.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002912

But normally,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002913

minomonitor na yung pag umikot kami

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002914

yung pagtaas ng presyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002915

Yung pag mababa yung presyo, hindi namin masyadong

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002916

namamonitor. But

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002917

we will look at it.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002918

We will look into it also.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002919

Thank you, Sec. I just have a few more questions.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002920

Baka Madam Aimee wants to interject.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002921

Okay.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002922

Mabilis na kasi mawawalan ako ng time.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002923

So basically, on port

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002924

impotentations, we've addressed that already today.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002925

We really just have to monitor on the final

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002926

pricing and how to increase

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002927

the live

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002928

live

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002929

weight prices. And then

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002930

on the issue on rice,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002931

your honors, Mr. Chairman,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002932

um,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002933

mga rice farmers natin, of course, they're complaining,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002934

they're crying, but napaka-taas ng presyo

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002935

ng bigas at

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002936

ng palay na yun.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002937

Basically, bigas, especially imported rice.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002938

Do you know what the price of the

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002939

imported rice is now, Sec? Even with

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002940

the price fluctuation

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002941

ng dollars?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002942

Sa ngayon, ang imported rice

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002943

is about $450-$460

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002944

per ton.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002945

But ang freight, tumaas din eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002946

$40 per ton yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002947

So,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002948

you're assuming $500, $490 to

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002949

$500 per ton yan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002950

Per kilo, Mr. Secretary, para at least

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002951

ang imported rice should be

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002952

about ₱45 to

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002953

₱50 pesos per kilo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002954

Landed.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002955

Retail na yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002956

So, kung ₱45 yun,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002957

minus ₱10, so ₱35 to

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002958

₱40 pesos landed,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002959

Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002960

Check yung tariff natin dyan,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002961

under the rice tarification law,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002962

di ba, you,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002963

you can allow importation as long as they

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002964

pay the exact tariff?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002965

Bumaba ba yung tariff ng imported rice

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002966

as from before?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002967

Yes. Dating, the RTL originally

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002968

is 35% tariff.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002969

Now, it is at 15%, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002970

I think that's, that is a

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002971

problem, but we're, I know it's a

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002972

balancing act once again, kasi imported rice

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002973

tayo talagang

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002974

dumedepende

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002975

para sa

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002976

pagkain ng taong bayan, pero

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002977

the farmers have

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002978

given me feedback, sabi ng mga magsasaka,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002979

hindi na nila nararamdaman yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002980

yung tariff, yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002981

tulong sa mga magsasaka

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002982

galing sa taripa ng imported rice.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002983

Is there still a program

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002984

ongoing, pagbigay po

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002985

nitong taripa

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002986

sa ating mga magsasaka? Kasi yan

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002987

ang parang give and take, di ba? Sabi natin,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002988

sige, magkakaroon tayo ng importation,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002989

pero yung taripa na ibibigay po,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002990

ay papataw

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002991

natin o ibibigay po natin dun sa

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002992

mga importers, ibibigay namin.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002993

Sa inyo. So, were you able

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002994

to follow through? Has the DA been able to follow

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-002995

through with the assistance to rice

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002996

farmers? Mr. Chair, tuloy-tuloy naman

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002997

yung RSF natin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002998

Tuloy-tuloy yung pagbigay,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-002999

but then, kung dapat na 30

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003000

billion ng fund, dahil binabaan taripa,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003001

ang collection namin is ipabiba ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003002

13 billion lang, or 15

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003003

billion lang, depende sa taon. So,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003004

yun lang din ang nabibigay namin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003005

So, talagang mas

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003006

mababa yung nabibigay ngayon, dahil

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003007

mahina ang collection ho ng taripa.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003008

How is the efficiency rate of that, Secretary?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003009

I mean, could you give the

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003010

committee an idea dun sa

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003011

magkanong na tanggap ninyo

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003012

last year, magkanong ninyo inabas,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003013

and maybe we have a report on

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003014

expenditure of that?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003015

O pagbigay po ninyo sa department?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003016

Yes, Mr. Chair. Actually, I find it quite efficient

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003017

naman yung pagdating doon, except for delayed

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003018

funding sometimes. We will submit

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003019

a report na lang, Mr. Chair, kasi maraming

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003020

detalya ho yun.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003020-split-2

Thank you. I have only four seconds

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003021

left. Yung China ban on the Philippines

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003022

SEC on fertilizer,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003023

malaking bagay yan. Alam mo naman,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003024

galit yung China sa atin.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003025

Gusto po nilang sakupin yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003026

West Philippine Sea. Ang

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003027

nangyari, because of that, ay

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003028

nagkaroon din po sila ng instructions

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003029

sa mga fertilizer inputs,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003030

chemicals, and

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003031

pesticides to the Philippines.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003032

Do we have a

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003033

alternative? Does the DA have

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003034

an alternative on this?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003035

Mr. Chair, ang unang una, we don't

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003036

know of any official ban

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003037

ng China to the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003038

Philippines. May mga tsismis

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003039

na gano'n, but

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003040

unsubstantiated pa

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003041

na naman. So, sa ngayon,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003042

tuloy-tuloy naman ang flow ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003043

fertilizer. In fact, yesterday,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003044

I consulted with our

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003045

fertilizer and pesticide authority,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003046

and this morning,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003047

communication na with the industry,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003048

is tuloy-tuloy naman yung pasok.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003049

Ang problema lang talaga, mas

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003050

mahal dahil sa fuel

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003051

state of fuel prices.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003052

But, with that said,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003053

Secretary, what if there's a possibility na magkaroon

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003054

ng ban? Have you thought about coming up with

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003055

alternative avenues for

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003056

fertilizer? Oh, yes. Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003057

there's alternative

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003058

fertilizers, no? Of course,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003059

chicken manure is one from

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003060

processed chicken manure, no?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003061

Pati yung local industry

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003062

natin dito, medyo marami

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003063

ng gumagawa, no? That's the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003064

positive side. And the DA is pushing for

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003065

that composting system

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003066

for chicken manure and

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003067

other

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003068

by-product ng ating mga

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003069

livestock sector. But then, we have

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003070

of foil air fertilizers, biofertilizers, and soil conditioners

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003071

na mas mura and equally as effective.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003072

Kailangan lang tanggapin ng ating mga magsasaka

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003073

na these are the new alternatives that is available

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003074

at a lower price per hectare at mas makanda pa ang kita nila.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003075

In fact, I have a personal farm na pinabili ko sa anak ko

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003076

at tinanimang ko ng bigasa.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003077

Hindi ako gumamit ng urea.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003078

And the margins they made were quite okay

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003079

using these alternative systems, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003080

Thank you, Chairman, Mr. Secretary.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003081

But aside from the alternative systems,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003082

I think one of the reasons kasi pinapromote ko din

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003083

yung organic fertilizer, it's the volume, Secretary,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003084

kasi kailangan mo sa isang bag ng urea,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003085

kailangan mo ng isang tuneladang chicken manure.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003086

Kaya yung mga farmers na iba,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003087

wala silang capacity to put all these,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003088

the large amounts of organic fertilizer

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003089

to be able to be spread out.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003090

Pero I'm with you 1,000% because it is a soil enhancer

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003091

and it rejuvenates the soil.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003092

But my question talaga is,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003093

I think we should look into other avenues

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003094

of fertilizer distribution and importation

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003095

from other friendly countries like Indonesia

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003096

or Malaysia where they have petroleum products

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003097

kasi urea is a byproduct of petroleum.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003098

So kailangan natin maghanap ng bagong avenues

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003099

just in case, Secretary, we never know where this escalates,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003100

but just in case, Mr. Secretary.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003101

So just a little information, point of information,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003102

para we don't get caught off guard,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003103

particularly on importation and inputs.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003104

You know, yesterday, Mr. Chairman,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003105

I had a talk with one of the members of the Central Bank.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003106

My worry is there is no actionable,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003107

there's no action on the,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003108

increase on dollar rates.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003109

Parang ang gusto yata ng Central Bank

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003110

is let it go where it will go.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003111

Delikado po yan, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003112

I think we should also, in the budget hearings

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003113

or deliberations of the Central Bank,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003114

I would like to ask Banco Central Governor Remolino

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003115

na napakahirap yan because

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003116

although ang gusto daw nila

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003117

is to promote exports,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003118

of what?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003119

We cannot just promote exports biglaan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003120

We have to strengthen the industry.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003121

To be able to promote the exports.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003122

So for the meantime,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003123

pabayaan lang po natin na

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003124

let the peso fall

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003125

to where it may against the dollar.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003126

Kawawa po lahat ng kababayan natin.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003127

Kawawa po.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003128

From fuel, from gasoline,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003129

from imported products,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003130

lahat ay imported.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003131

Pati sa agrikultura na yun,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003132

pesticides and fertilizers, all imported.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003133

Yung equipment nila,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003134

wala namang kubota ginagawa dito na tractor.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003135

Lahat po ay galing Japan,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003136

China or the US,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003137

Ford tractors.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003138

Everything is imported.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003139

Kaya naawa po ako sa ating mga magsasaka.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003140

I think it's a perfect storm

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003141

as you said earlier on the El Nino.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003142

I think it's also a perfect storm

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003143

na bumababa yung presyo ng value

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003144

ng peso sa dollar.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003145

Tapos tumataas pa ang presyo ng gasolina.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003146

Ang hirap.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003147

Ang hirap po ng situation ng sekretary.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003148

I don't blame you, Sec.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003149

You know, pumapayat ka nga eh.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003150

Kaya naawa ako sir.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003151

Pumapayat si sekretary.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003152

Dati malusog yan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003153

Ano yung pumapayat?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003154

Dahil siguro sa stress yan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003155

So, pinapatawa lang po kayo, Sec.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003156

I don't want to put you in that seat.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003157

We've been friends for 35 years.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003158

So, ang akin lang is,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003159

I hope also that the House of Representatives

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003160

take note of the bills that we passed

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003161

on the extension services.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003162

I think the secretary needs that law to be passed

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003163

because the DA needs extension services

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003164

to really go to the ground

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003165

and be felt in the ground.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003166

We cannot just...

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003167

Sorry na lang ha.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003168

Makagalit sa akin yung mga PAO and mga MAO.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003169

Municipal Agricultural Officers.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003170

We need provincial agricultural officers.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003171

The DA needs people on the ground

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003172

to tell them what is going on from the top.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003173

What are the reforms being done on the ground?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003174

Kailangan talagang nilang sundalo sa baba.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003175

So, I just have one last if I may, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003176

Paano nila ako magsisecond round?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003177

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003178

Dito sa...

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003179

So, at least, we talked about alternatives on fertilizers

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003180

and inputs from other countries.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003181

We have to discuss how we can also tame

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003182

the high inflation rates na talagang piktado

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003183

yung taong bayan natin.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003184

Also, due to the fact of the falling peso to the dollar.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003185

Some good news, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Secretary.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003186

We passed the Kawayan Act,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003187

the Bamboo Law,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003188

and we passed the DPR Act.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003189

We passed the DPR Act.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003190

Finally, both House and the Senate

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003191

will be meeting during the break

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003192

to come up with an acceptable language

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003193

for the Bicameral Conference Committee report.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003194

I think we're leaning towards the DA again

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003195

as being the number one source of motivation

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003196

and moral support for this law to pass.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003197

Kasi matagal po yung away ninyo sa DNR, sa DTI, di ba po?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003198

So, ang ginawa po natin, ako,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003199

may bias to the DA because I'm also a resident agriculturist

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003200

and a licensed agriculturist at that.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003201

We can now promote high-value farming

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003202

like with kawayan, bamboo.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003203

Yesterday, I was in Bay Laguna

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003204

buying a bonsai, bogambilya.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003205

Napaka-mahal.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003206

At sabi ko nga, isang bogambilya lang na maganda

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003207

ay napaka-laki na ng income ng farmer na ito.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003208

So, I think we should start looking into other

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003209

high-value companies.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003210

We can also concentrate on plantation crops

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003211

for our farmers para maiba din po yung dumami din po ito,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003212

lumakas po ang kanilang kita at benta.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003213

So, I hope we can also concentrate, Sec,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003214

not only on plantation crops like corn, like sugar,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003215

like, of course, rice.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003216

We can look into high-value horticulture.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003217

Sana po buhayin ninyo pong mga department,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003218

sa department, yung mga bureau ninyo ng horticulture

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003219

and high-value crops.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003220

Nandyan si Usec Sheryl, high-value crops yan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003221

That is a shining light.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003222

Alam mo paano ko nahanap po, Mr. Chairman,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003223

yung bogambilya na yan?

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003224

Facebook.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003225

Facebook lang.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003226

Gagaling na nila mag-market.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003227

So, pag nakita mo Facebook, nandyan yung address.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003228

Puntahan ng mga buyers.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003229

They told me they, because of Facebook market,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003230

ang dami po nilang naibibenta.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003231

So, there are other opportunities for farmers

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003232

with small areas that can make a lot of money.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003233

So, we can look into that.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003234

Because at the end of the day,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003235

ang gusto po natin, taasan po ang kita ng ating mga magsasaka.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003236

At hindi lamang po silang nakabinbin,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003237

nakasalalay sa isang monocrop.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003238

I hope that we can do that also, Secretary.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003239

May we just ask for a comment from the Secretary?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003240

Definitely, Mr. Chair, horticulture is on the agenda.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003241

We have a small budget for that.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003242

Plus, the DA, along with the DTI and other government agencies,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003243

we're actually sponsoring sa Japan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003244

we will have a major booth in a horticulture show in Yokohama in March 2027.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003245

Maybe may imbita ko kayo doon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003246

At I really see, personally see that horticulture is an alternative business

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003247

for our farmers and fisher folks.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003248

Meron niyang mga plants na binibenta for 20,000 pesos, 10,000 pesos,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003249

or kids man, o ganoon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003250

Even baka sa Benguet, pwede na magkaroon ng tulips,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003251

yung type na ganoon, at magaganda pa.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003252

Magandang pag-asa dyan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003253

Nakita ko sa ibang bansa na well-regulated and well-developed yan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003254

kaya tulad ng Thailand.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003255

So gusto nating tularan yun at maging major industry din.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003256

Thank you, sir.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003257

Thank you.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003258

Kasi ako, Mr. Chairman, may ilig ako sa ornamental plants.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003259

So tama po sinabi yung Secretary, orchids.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003260

As a matter of fact, namili po ako nung isang araw ng May,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003261

maple trees, yung mga maple plants na yung nga lang mukhang mariwana,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003262

baka marid bigla yung farm ko, pero hindi mariwana yun.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003263

Maple trees yun na seedlings.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003264

Ba, tagwa 1,500 din, kada isa, 1,000.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003265

So laki din ang income.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003266

So tama po si Secretary, there's a lot of things that we can do here in the Philippines

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003267

that can really augment the farmers, not only focusing on our plantation crops.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003268

And finally, Mr. Chairman, so ayong information sa kawayan, Secretary,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003269

malapit na po yan, baka matulungan niyo po kami.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003270

We're leaning towards the DAS, the Implementing Agency for that SEC.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003271

Okay lang po sa inyo yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003272

We support that fully and I'm an avid believer in the bamboo industry and its benefits, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003273

Thank you.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003274

Oo nga, kasi yung pati nga airport namin sa Bukidnon, we're retrofitting it with bamboo inside.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003275

Yung gagawin na yata, I think, in the Region 8 sa Tacloban Airport,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003276

they already used bamboo.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003277

Inside for the finishing.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003278

So ginagawa din po namin sa Bukidnon yan with our Bukidnon Airport using Bukidnon bamboo.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003279

So thank you, Secretary, for the support there.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003280

We have actually a huge buyer in Cagayan de Oro.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003281

I forget the name.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003282

Yung kay Cito Lorenzo at Rizone.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003283

They buy whatever they can produce there na bamboo.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003284

At magagandang pong farmgate prices nila.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003285

So marami po kaming farmers, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003286

Dati, ang subsistence farmgate.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003287

Farmers lang po sila, corn and plant rice.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003288

Ngayon, bamboo na sila.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003289

They're making a lot of money out of the bamboo.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003290

And tamas talaga yung kanilang livelihood opportunities, Your Honor.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003291

So finally, I will be remiss to ask, if I don't ask this,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003292

kasi po ako yung taga, of course, taga Bukidnon po ako,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003293

pero originally taga Negro-Soxidental.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003294

Kamag-anak ko yan, na malayo, si Paul Ascuna, yung inyong SRA chairman,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003295

on the RSSI.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003296

Kami natamaan din po kami sa Bukidnon.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003297

We appreciate a lot of the work that SRA has been doing.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003298

We're just seeking more support from the mother organization, the DA,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003299

and the DSWD.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003300

We'd like to thank Secretary Rex Gatchalian,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003301

nagbigay po siya ng tulong sa mga farmers na natamaan ng RSSI.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003302

Ito po, sa marami pong nanunood na yan,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003303

at nakikinig, yung RSSI, ito po isang peste na tumatama po sa atin sa industriya ng tubo.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003304

Bukidnon is the second largest producer of sugar in the country,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003305

next to Negro-Soxidental.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003306

And malaking epekto po ito, chairman, sa ating mga magsasaka.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003307

Pag natamaan po silang ginagawa po nila,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003308

itong SRA na pesting ito, kinakain po nila yung dahon ng mga tubo ng tanim.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003309

At dahil dyan, napakalaki ng gastos, of course, if you use pesticides for the prevention of this.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003310

Kung sa Bisaya, padayon lang po, padayon sa inyong programa.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003311

At tuloy nyo lang po.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003312

We just want you to know that we don't want to kill the sugar industry as well.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003313

We want to make sure that the sugar industry survives.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003314

This is still a very important product for our people, lalo na sa mga farmers.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003315

And this time, 90% po, dati ka po sinabi nyo po, sugar farmers, mga hasyendero.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003316

Ngayon po, 90% po ay small farmers.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003317

These are agrarian reform beneficiaries.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003318

And I'd like to ask an opinion of the good gentleman,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003319

from Cabangkalan, my hometown of Cabangkalan,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003320

on his opinion.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003321

And if he needs more help, maybe he can say it today, Mr. Chairman,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003322

lalo na in light of this fact of the RSSI and the El Nino.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003323

May we recognize also a few moments to our SRA chairman.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003324

Maybe he may need more help that we can infuse to the budget of the DA

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003325

to help on this crisis, Your Honor, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003326

Go ahead, go ahead, Mr. Escona.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003327

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003328

Thank you, Senator Subiri.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003329

Yes po, we've been fighting RSSI for a couple of years in Luzon

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003330

and in Negros, two years in Bukidnon.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003331

This is the first year.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003332

Last year, we tried our best to quarantine Bukidnon

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003333

and protect it from RSSI coming from Negros.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003334

However, it arrived in Davao and somehow made its way to Bukidnon.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003335

Now,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003336

yes, we do need more support, especially budget-wise.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003337

We greatly appreciate the help of the DA by extending budget down to SRA to help.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003338

Concurrently, we're using pesticides, which is very expensive.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003339

However, the Secretary already came up with a program wherein LGUs,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003340

farmer associations, our meal district development councils,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003341

which are private,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003342

and other organizations are encouraged to make their own biocontrol laboratories.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003343

SRA and the DA will provide the fungi, the mother fungi,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003344

that we have tested, and it's proven to help control RSSI.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003345

It's a lot slower than pesticide,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003346

but we need to bring it down to the grassroots level,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003347

Senator and Mr. Chair,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003348

to make it accessible.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003349

So, I think with your help, with the Chairman's help,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003350

we do need budget for it.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003351

There were already LGUs in Negros who signified that they are willing to go

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003352

and collaborate with the DA and organize these laboratories.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003353

This is for the future use.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003354

We believe RSSI will be here to stay.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003355

It's very hard to totally eradicate.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003356

But we just, according to the countries who

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003357

had RSSI or still have RSSI,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003358

we just have to learn and live with it and control it in the biocontrol way.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003359

We cannot continually use chemical pesticides.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003360

It is not sustainable.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003361

So, hopefully, hopefully,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003362

the committee can give us an additional budget specifically for our SSI.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003363

And on the other hand,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003364

El Nino mitigation as well, Mr. Secretary.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003365

Mr. Chair?

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003366

Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003367

Sorry.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003368

Just on that, just I'd like to support,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003369

Senator Subiri on that.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003370

And Mr. Chairman, a bit of...

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003371

institutional memory. If you will

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003372

recall, the law that

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003373

created the sugar

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003374

the SIDA law actually

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003375

originally appropriated a

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003376

total amount of 2 billion

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003377

and that 2 billion was

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003378

reduced to 500 million

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003379

because of its incapacity to disperse

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003380

and spend except

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003381

on farm-to-market roads

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003382

and as a result,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003383

they've had this very small budget

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003384

since then, but the original intent

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003385

which was long, long ago, 2 billion

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003386

na yan, na-reduce yan.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003387

Kaya I think there is really room

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003388

given El Nino as well as RSSI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003389

to increase it

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003390

as our Senator Subiri

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-003391

said.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003392

And just to add, you have not

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003393

unlike the other agencies,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003394

you have to submit your

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003395

request for additional funding. You have not

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003396

submitted it.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003397

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003398

We'll do it.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003399

We intend

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003400

to finalize our

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003401

subcommittee report by Friday, so

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003402

you have to submit it before then.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona

asr-003403

Okay, Mr. Chair. Thank you very much.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003404

On a final note, Mr. Chair, because I have a meeting

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003405

with the JAICA head, I think they're worried

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003406

about their, not at 1 o'clock,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003407

they were worried about the

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003408

cut on their

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003409

foreign-assisted

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003410

counterpart from the Philippines.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003411

So,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003412

before I go, I just want to

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003413

say good luck to you,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003414

sir. I know

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003415

Sec Kiko for a long, long

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003416

time. He comes from a great school,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003417

Savior. My kids are also in Savior. I'm a

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003418

Savior dad. Magaling yan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003419

That's the other

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003420

good school along Ortega.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003421

Yes, sir.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003422

Lasal pala ito. O nga, o nga.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003423

So, Lasal Green Hills pala ito.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003424

So,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003425

yung akin lang, Sec,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003426

gamitin mo ng gilas mo. Matapang yan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003427

Kasama ko sa bakbakan yan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003428

Commercial artist yan si Sec Kiko

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003429

sa labanan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003430

Hindi nagbaback out yan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003431

So, Sec, when it comes to pricing on the

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003432

para naman matuwa

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003433

sa atin yung mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003434

hog farmers and poultry farmers,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003435

Sec, use your gilas.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003436

Use your tapang,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003437

Sec. Yan, nandyan si

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003438

Usec Itos. Gagamitin ko ulit. Matapang

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003439

yan. Padala mo dun sa mga merkado

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003440

for predatory pricing. Siya padala mo.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003441

Magaling sa shotgun yan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003442

At hindi natatakot yan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003443

Tagalas sa Green Hills yan.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003444

Tagalas sa Green Hills.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003445

So, Sec,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003446

yun lang. I just want

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003447

you to make that

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003448

impact on the ground. I know you're

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003449

tough. I know you can do it.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003450

Don't be afraid to show your

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003451

emotion on the ground.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003452

Lalo na sa TV. Matutuwa yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003453

taong bahayin dyan. Because

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003454

there's farmers in the farm.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003455

The farmers, lalo na yung 80%,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003456

they're suffering now. Talagang hirap na hirap sila.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003457

So, they need

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003458

the actionable

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003459

assistance from the

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003460

DA. Makita talaga nila.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003461

I think, yun lamang eh. Kasi may

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003462

perception is the key to everything.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003463

Diba? Kanya ng politics perception yan eh.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003464

Gusto lang nila makita na

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003465

gumagalaw kayo,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003466

nagagalit kayo,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003467

at on the ground, may effect. Kasi natatakot po

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003468

itong mga predatory, predators

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003469

sa pricing nito mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003470

mga produkto na ito.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003471

For power to you, Sec, we know

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003472

it's a difficult job that you face.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003473

I've told this to Senator,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003474

my chairman, Senator Kiko,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003475

that being a DA secretary is one of the

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003476

most difficult jobs. Everybody

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003477

who sat on your position, whether

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003478

they are professional agriculturists,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003479

whether they were businessmen,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003480

whether they were diplomats, whoever they

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003481

were, talagang nahirapan talaga sila.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003482

Because it's a balancing act. But

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003483

at the end of the day, it's the

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003484

prices of consumer goods

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003485

and at the same time, benefits

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003486

of the farmers that are important

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003487

here. So, Sec,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003488

more power to you.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003489

Huwag ka matakot.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003490

Ilabas mo yung galit mo.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003491

Sa mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003492

itong mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003493

predator pricing,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003494

pati yung mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003495

smugglers,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003496

tirahin mo. Huwag ka matakot.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003497

Tama-tama, pumayat ka naman.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003498

You look better in TV now,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003499

Secretary.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003500

Salamat po, Chairman. Thank you.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

asr-003501

Thank you to the DA family. We're here to support.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003502

Mr. Chair, salamat po

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003503

kay Senator Zubiri at lalabas na

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003504

yung tapang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003505

natin dahil nalaalam ko ngang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003506

sa likod mo ako. Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003507

Yes, well, I will

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003508

likewise share the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003509

sentiment of Senator Zubiri

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003510

that if you are going to

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003511

go all out against these

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003512

predators, you have our

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003513

100, 150

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asr-003514

percent support.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003515

Alam naman ni Sec, kiko yan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003516

So, just a few, for my

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003517

first round, first,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003518

Mr. Secretary,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003519

could you comment on our,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003520

our suggestion that we have

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003521

a declaration of a state of calamity

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003522

or an imminent disaster

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003523

so that we can address

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003524

this El Nino

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003525

situation

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003526

that we're already

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003527

at the moment.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003528

Talagang malaki na ang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003529

daño sa limang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003530

regions.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003531

Please let us know your thoughts because

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003532

we'd like

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003533

to get you all the necessary

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003534

support needed.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003535

To be able to combat El Nino

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003536

and stay ahead of the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003537

game, for lack of a better

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003538

term, so that

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003539

we can be proactive.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003540

I say that because

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003541

again,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003542

we need the resources,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003543

you need the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003544

support, and you need

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003545

the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003546

laws and

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003547

executive orders to be able

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003548

to do what you must.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003549

Go ahead, sir. Just on the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003550

El Nino muna.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003550-split-2

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003551

Definitely, well, hindi ko naisip

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003552

yung binanggit nyo, but

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003553

that is a very good idea

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003554

in my opinion,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003555

and I do agree that

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003556

mas maganda na mag-declare tayo

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003557

dahil from all

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003558

indications, it's super El Nino.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003559

Pari dalubhasa, pag-asa,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003560

you know,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003561

everybody in the world is saying it, so I think

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003562

we better act fast, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003563

Okay, my office can help

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003564

in that regard. Let's sit

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003565

down with your Chief of Staff.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003566

The reason why I raised that was because

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003567

I faced, as Food Security Secretary

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003568

in 2014-2015,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003569

I faced a calamity.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003570

The

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003571

Kokolisap infestation in

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003572

Region 4A in Calbar

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003573

Zone, about 2 million trees.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003574

The rate within which it was spreading

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003575

was such that it would have hit

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003576

Region 5

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003577

had we not made the necessary

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003578

interventions.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003579

And that state of

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003580

state of

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003581

emergency

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003582

calamity was declared by

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003583

then President Aquino. We got about

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003584

half a million pesos worth of

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003585

additional support to be able

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003586

to address that calamity.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003587

We established a war room.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003588

I know you now have a

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003589

war room in the department

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003590

at the top floor

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003591

of the Philippine Coconut Authority.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003592

Sat down with the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003593

LGU, sat down with

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003594

those affected, and within six

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003595

months, from 57 hot spots, we

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003596

were able to bring it down to

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003597

one in

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003598

Basilan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003599

Ang biro ko nga kay President Aquino noon,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003600

pag dating ko doon sa

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003601

Batangas, lahat ng mga

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003602

puno ng nyog naninilaw.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003603

Kaya sabi ko, Mr. President,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003604

if we don't act fast,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003605

mauubos ang ating mga nyog.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003606

Pero, the good news,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003607

marami na pong dilawan

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003608

doon sa

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003609

...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003610

naninilaw kasi.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003611

But we addressed it

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003612

in a six-month period.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003613

So, that's why

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003614

let's work together

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003615

and let's convince the President to declare

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003616

that state of natural

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003617

...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003618

state

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003619

natural calamity.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003620

Disaster.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003621

Sige.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003622

Now,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003623

if that is

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003624

declared

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003625

immediately,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003626

what, at least,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003627

right now, ano na ang plano ninyo

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003628

thus far para ma-address itong

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003629

El Niño?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003630

Just broad strokes lang para maintindihan natin

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003631

ano ang kakailangan ng ponduhan?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003632

Mr. Chair, well,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003633

we have created the El Niño task force

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003634

a few months ago, no?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003635

Coming from yung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003636

fewer prices task force, nag-migrate lang.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003637

We meet every week, actually.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003638

Every Monday morning.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003639

So, we've developed

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003640

nga yung aming, we've requested

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003641

funding.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003642

For all of the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003643

things we need.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003644

And, mabibigay naman sa amin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003645

ng ating

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003646

ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003647

malakanyang, ang aming requirement.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003648

Basically, it involves

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003649

water management,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003650

sa crops, sa rice, corn, high-value crops,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003651

sugarcane, coconut,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003652

interventions. Meron din livestock

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003653

and poultry, pati fisheries.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003654

So, we have to address yung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003655

income losses also of affected farmers

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003656

and fisher folks to be minimized.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003657

And, yung access of consumers

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003658

to affordable food and commodities

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003659

to be expanded, no?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003660

So, as mentioned earlier,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003661

we will deploy more

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003662

water pumps,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003663

solar-powered man.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003664

We've been deploying now

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003665

in turning over solar-powered

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003666

cold storages, kaya para bago

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003667

uminit at kung kaya na i-harvest

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003668

or earlier harvest, may itago

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003669

and let it mature in those

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003670

facilities.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003671

So,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003672

solar-powered irrigation,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003673

we're turning over tuloy-tuloy.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003674

Nag-procure na kami ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003675

additional bio-fertilizers, no?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003676

To the tune of 2.2

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003677

billion, and it will be distributed this

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003678

October and November,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003679

among others.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003680

At, yun, marami-marami pa.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003681

Naka-prepare na yung budget

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003682

for, may additional

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003683

presidential assistance to farmers and fisher

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003684

folks tayo. May fuel assistance tayo

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003685

i-deploy soon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003686

At, meron din tayong agreement

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003687

with the toll,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003688

na magbigay ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003689

reduction in

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003690

a rebate system

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003691

sa mga agri-truck

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003692

users, at may mga cross-cutting

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003693

interventions din tayo, no?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003694

Across all

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003695

commodities,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003696

lalo na yung basic commodities.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003697

So,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003698

Mr. Chair. Go ahead, go ahead, please.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003699

More or less,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003700

yun yun, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003701

Yes, is there a,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003702

a conscious

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003703

calibrated

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003704

intentional

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003705

coordination, for example,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003706

similar to what they're

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003707

doing with the SRA?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003708

Because I remember when we had the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003709

uplift hearing,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003710

sabi natin,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003711

AICS is precisely

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003712

necessary

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003713

when there is a calamity,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003714

when there is a

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003715

crisis, di ba? So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003716

the intervention, meaning,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003717

between, or the coordination

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003718

between DA

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003719

and DSWD,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003720

so that the AICS is

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003721

directed, you know?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003722

Sabi ko nga, if you're gonna direct

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003723

the AICS, you might as well direct it

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003724

to those who produce our food,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003725

so that they can

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003726

continue producing our food,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003727

which therefore

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003728

addresses the challenges of,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003729

you know, food prices

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003730

going up. So, may ganun bang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003731

ko,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003732

which is clear-cut

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003733

directive or policy,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003734

because that should, you know,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003735

one expenditure, but you're

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003736

actually, two outcomes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003737

Go ahead.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003738

Mr. Chair, definitely,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003739

may ganun. Actually, it's the office of the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003740

Executive Secretary mismo nagpapatawag

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003741

sa amin almost every other week,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003742

if not more sometimes,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003743

with all the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003744

major departments present,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003745

including OCD, but the Air Force

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003746

actually, kasi,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003747

it involves also sa El Nino yung cloud seeding,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003748

no? Then, yun nga,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003749

meron pang kami mga shallow well tubes

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003750

nga binabanggit,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003751

then yung tupad ng DOLE,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003752

meron din in-allocate sa amin,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003753

meron din this DSWD

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003754

AICS available, and of course,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003755

yung OCD fund,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003756

hopefully,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003757

yung QRF nila

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003758

ang magagamit din namin for all of this,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003759

as well as the DAQRF fund.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003760

So, yun yung mga

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003761

strategic na ginagamit,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003762

nagawa namin, no? But, besides that,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003763

meron pa kami provisions of seeds,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003764

planting materials, fertilizers,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003765

and animal dispersals,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003766

and provision of drugs

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003767

and biologics.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003768

So, fisheries naman, may fingerlings,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003769

seaweed propagules, and fish cages

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003770

din na dinideploy.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003771

Crop insurance is also

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003772

being, binayos namin talaga yung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003773

na magkapag-register lahat

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003774

sa crop insurance, lalo na yung mga

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003775

sa tatamaan na areas, kasi nga,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003776

that's one way for the crop insurance.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003777

for them to recover. Plus, yung mga additional

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003778

financial assistance

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003779

and agri-loans, no? Like,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003780

agri-recover, mga ganon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-003781

So, yun namin sa share.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003782

Okay, thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Sige, we'll,

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before I turn over

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the floor and provide

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some

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opportunity for our

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partner,

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NGO

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Civil Society partner

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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who will, in the budget,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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process, just

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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on the issue,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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balikan ko na lang very quickly yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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sa pork, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Secretary, apart from

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itong

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the need to revisit

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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itong taripa, yung

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pagbalik

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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sa dati ng taripa, itong

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minimum access volume,

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tapos yung

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importation ng karne,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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are you

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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providing assistance

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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you know, actually, subsidies

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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or support, you know? Kasi ito

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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ata, isa rin concern, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Yung, since farm bigot prices

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have dropped

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sa level ng palugi,

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is there some way

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that the intervention of the DA

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will provide some

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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relief dito? Lalo na,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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my understanding is 70 to

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80 percent of your

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farms, your

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pig farms, piggeries,

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are small.

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Uh, backyard farmers. So,

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anong

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Meron bang mga interventions or programs?

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For example, sa usapin ng ASF, yung bakuna ba ay maaari bang ipamahagi?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Kailangan ba ng dagdag na suporta at budget dyan para mapabalis ang pag-ano ng ASF vaccine?

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Yung feeds, meron bang paraan para magbigay ng assistance dito sa mga backyard farms

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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para magkaroon ng support, feed support from the DA so that 60 to 70 percent of your cost of production is feeds sa livestock, sa baboy?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Hindi ba dapat meron ganong budgetary support para masuportahan in the interim itong industriya ng magbababoy?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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Mr. Chair, before I go to that to the pork industry again,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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meron lang ako nakalimutan na meron kailangan for next year, hindi namin nailagay sa GAO, maliit ang budget for cloud seeding.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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So tingin namin we need additional P271 million for water management on cloud seeding.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

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It remains unfunded for 2027, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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And if we declare that state of calamity, then maybe we can get those funds somewhere.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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I mean apart from maybe adding it to the 2020 budget.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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I mean apart from maybe adding it to the 2027 budget.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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So before we proceed, I invited Ken Abante.

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Actually, Ken of the People's Budget Coalition was actively participating with our budget process when Senator Wynn, Senate President Wynn was our chairman.

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And we'd like to continue this collaboration so that we can get their inputs in terms of being able to address challenges of,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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the budgetary process and the final budget approval.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Go ahead, Ken. You have the floor, Mr. Abante of People's Budget Coalition.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Your observations regarding the DA budget until the approval by the House. Go ahead.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Senator Kiko, SP Wynn, Secretary Kiko and the DA family, magandang hapon po.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Kami po ang People's Budget Coalition, isang grupo ng lampas apat na pong organisasyon na ipinaglalaban ang isang budget,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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tao, makakalikasan at makatarungan.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Una po, lubos po kaming nagpapasalamat sa inyo, Senator Kiko at SP Wynn at Committee on Agriculture,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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sa pag-imbita sa aming civil society group sa budget hearing.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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This is the first time in at least 10 years that civil society has been invited as resource persons in budget hearing.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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So thank you, Sen. Kiko, for maintaining the momentum of budget reforms started by SP Wynn Gatchalian and Finance Committee Chair JV Ejercito,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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who met us budget watchdogs for three hours last week.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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And just last Monday, Sen. Riza Ontiveros, who also invited us to the DSWD hearing.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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While the House has blocked and even regressed in transparency and genuine participation of civil society groups,

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the Senate and even the executive agencies have proven to be more open to receiving civil society feedback.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Ini-emphasize po namin ito dahil ito ay isang critical na step to restoring the broken public trust in the budget process brought by the flood control scandal.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Citizens like us who are directly affected by reforms have the right and responsibility to engage in every step of the budget process.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Kaya po na-appreciate po namin ito dahil sa komiting ito, na-appreciate po namin yung pagka-specific ng plano ng DA at ating Senado sa El Niño,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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which brings us, nag-uusap po kami dito ni Tim, who represents farmer and fisher folk organizations,

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it brings us a lot of comfort and confidence that government will do something about their experiences.

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And we hope...

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that this engagement becomes the norm in Congress and even include the scientific institutions who specialize in these reviews.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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So salamat po sa paikinig sa mga hinain ng Trillion Peso March at Baja sa Luneta Rallies.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Meron po kaming tatlong obserbasyon at rekomendasyon na gusto pong ibahagi tungkol sa Department of Agriculture Budget.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Una po, billion-billion po ang in-insert ng House of Representatives sa Department of Agriculture Infrastructure Budget.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Nananawagan po kami sa Senado at sa Ehekutibo

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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na tulungan po kaming i-review ang lampas 7,054 projects worth 190 billion pesos na in-insert ng House of Representatives.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Nire-request po namin ang DA at ang Senado sa pag-publish ng mga dokumentong ito for media and civil society to see the documents following these red flags.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Ang warning po namin sa publiko, if we allow the House budget to pass as is, we might get another flood control scandal but in another age.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Ikalawa pong major finding namin sa citizen monitoring, we commend the Department of Agriculture for their Farm-to-Market Road Watch

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and we could recommend po that we strengthen and explore opportunities with our Bisto Proyecto Network

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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which has already networks in 12 regions to extend the identification and monitoring of farm-to-market and irrigation projects with farmer and fisher folk groups.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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The third major finding is we recommend investing and involving scientists and scientific institutions.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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in the budget review process to even strengthen the additional requirements for El Niño and promoting the stability of agriculture prices.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Nire-recommenda po namin sa komite na i-include ang mga scientists, hydrologists, disaster resilience experts from Project NOAA,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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agriculturists and ecologists from UPLB to review the DA as a whole.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Gusto po namin isa-isahin yung tatlong rekomendasyon na ito.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Una po, sa mga house insertions sa farm-to-market roads.

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and irrigation projects.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Naniniwala po kami, at nag-usap po kami ni Sec. Kiko kanina po before the hearing,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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naniniwala po kami na kailangan naman talaga ng farm-to-market roads, irrigation projects at agricultural investments

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para po sa El Niño, mga bagyo, at para po mapababa ang presyo ng ating mga bilihin.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Pero po, kapag in-insert ng House of Representatives ang 7,000 projects worth 190 billion pesos,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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kasama po sa mga in-insert ng house, ang 15 billion pesos,

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sa farm-to-market and irrigation projects na walang publicly-posted project attachments.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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I-specify po natin.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Ang house po, nag-insert ng 355 na totally new projects worth nearly 6 billion pesos for farm-to-market roads

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na totally wala sa National Expenditure Program at Proposal ng DA.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Ito po ay yung mga tigpa 5 million, 10 million, 15 million na mga kalsada.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Hindi po tayo sigurado kung konektado ito talaga.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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National Highway Network o konektado ito sa mga resort nila.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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The house inserted 319 totally new irrigation projects worth 9.4 billion pesos.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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And the egregious thing about these house insertions is they do not have the same level of public disclosure

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that was given by the Department of Public Works and Highways.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Nag-publish po sila ng mga geotagged photos, program of works, detailed unit price analysis,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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certificate of implementability ng mga local government units,

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feasibility studies at local development council approvals.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Kaya po siguro bahagi po ito kung bakit nag-slow down ang farm-to-market road budget utilization

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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kasi po kailangan po yung lahat ng dokumentong ito ay present before even the budget is approved.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Yung even more details, kailangan pong i-publish hindi lamang ang coordinates pero yung mga supporting documents.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Halimbawa po, kailangan pong i-review ang mga coordinates ng proyekto.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Nung tinignan po namin,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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meron po kaming mga angry nerds.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Ito po yung 5,500 volunteers, the best software developers in the world

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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who got politically active after the flood control scandal.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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We mapped every single project, every single of the 18,000 projects that are now in the House bill.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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May mga nakita po kaming 23 million pesos na farm-to-market road na dapat ay nasa Nueva Ecija

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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pero ang coordinates po ay nasa Karagatan na malapit sa Benham Rice.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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May isang 30 million pesos na farm-to-market road na dapat ay nasa Nueva Ecija.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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May isang 55 million pesos na farm-to-market road na dapat ay nasa Cebu pero nasa Celebesi, malapit sa Indonesia.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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May isang 55 million pesos na farm-to-market road na dapat nasa Quezon pero nasa Karagatan, malapit sa Brunei.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Kailangan din po natin i-review ang cost assumptions sa iba-ibang infrastruktura sa farm-to-market at irrigation.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Kanina po nasabi na 15,000 pesos per meter or 15 million pesos per kilometer ang market price ngayon dapat ng mga kalsada.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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May mga nakita po kami.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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May mga koordinates na published na 19 million pesos per meter dahil 2 meters lang po ang nasa koordinates or 6 million pesos per meter.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Sa tingin po namin may mga mali sa mga koordinates na ito na napasa both in the NEP and the House version.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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At ang nire-request po ng aming angry nerds ay yung mismong raw data, yung mga GeoJSON shape files para ma-verify po ang lahat ng ito.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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In the middle of some of these project cost analysis that we did,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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may mga nakita pa po kaming mga 33,000 pesos per meter at 20,000 pesos per meter.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Gustong sabihin po, if we take the budget as is, may mga likely overpriced projects pa rin po sa DA.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Ikalawa naman po, tinignan namin ang irrigation projects.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Meron po ba kaming nakita na mga solar panels at kung ano man ang mga naging assumption sa mga solar pump irrigation projects.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Concerned po kami sa costs ng solar pump irrigation systems with AI capability.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Tama po ba?

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Na bilog-bilog na 50 million, 100 million, o 200 million ang mga budget para rito.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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There is a risk that these projects may be overpriced so these must be reviewed.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Tinignan po namin kung magkano dapat ang 600 to 700 watt solar panel.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Dapat po ito ay under market prices just 7,000 pesos.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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But some bidding and detailed unit price analysis documents are team reviewed.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Nakita po na yung solar panel costs na ito, actual bidding documents coming from the NIA,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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cost around 30,000 to 40,000 pesos.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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So we want to ask whether these are still the same cost assumptions being used for the irrigation projects under this budget.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Meron din pong mga AI monitoring section ang mga proyektong ito.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Dapat po ba talaga ay merong tigo 1 million pesos per lot na AI monitoring?

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Hindi po ba dapat mas centralized na ito?

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Again, we are not saying that these are conclusive of corruption because we need more documents to make a determination.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Ang sinasabi lamang po namin, kailangan po ng determination at kailangan ng dokumento para po magkaroon tayo ng mas maayos na review.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Pinublish po namin ang findings na ito.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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We have a listing of all 18,000 house projects in this link, bit.ly or bit.ly slash budget red flags.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Iniimbitahan po namin ang media, civil society, at ang kongreso at akademya to work with us on these inspections.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Kung ang eleksyon po ay may disiplina ng eleksyon.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Sa budget naman po ay dapat may budget monitoring.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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So yun po yung first major finding namin sa NKICO and SPWIN.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Ikalawa po is an offer to support the great work of Secretary Kiko Chulaurel and the DA family.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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We commend the DA for launching the Farm to Markets Roadwatch.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Nakita po namin na sa DA may website sila na inupload ang 3,455 completed projects of 6,428 projects worth 110 billion pesos.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Spanning nearly 2,700 kilometers.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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However po, when we saw the public reports in your e-reports portal, only 24 reports have been submitted by citizen inspectors.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Ang offer po for support namin, we think we can support the citizen monitoring of these farm to market roads.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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And perhaps we can work with the Bisto Proyecto group convened by Cardinal Ambo David and Dondon Parafina.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Our more than 200 volunteers, mga nanays ng 4Ps, Rover Scouts, mga madre at pare,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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at parish workers, have monitored 251 projects worth 14 billion pesos across 12 regions with the DPWH.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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May nahanap po kami na 92 na unsatisfactory na projects.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Siyem na po ang narisolba.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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And inaayos po namin ngayon with DPWH yung feedback mechanism with citizen inspectors.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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We hope that we can do the same with your office, Secretary.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Third and final.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Before you proceed, just to place on record, let it be on record.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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That when Mr. Abante said, we hope you can help us directing the question or the appeal to the good Secretary,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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the Secretary gave a thumbs up.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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That's not in the transcript kasi so I had to put it on record.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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We are very happy with the thumbs up, Your Honor.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Third and finally po,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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we hope po we can involve the scientists in the review of the budget

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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to address El Niño, to double-check many of these coordinates that we think have errors in them,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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and promote the stability of the agriculture prices.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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At sa tingin po namin, it's part of the institutionalization of the Budget Monitoring Group,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Budget Monitoring Network, is to be able to fund these third-party research institutions

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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so that they can really attend and do detailed analyses and studies of these projects.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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Muli po, nagpapasalamat po kami kasi ito po ay napakahalagang

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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oportunidad para po sa aming mga budget watchdogs na mapakinggan.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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At si Tim po ay mayroon din po siyang mga inputs galing po sa mga farmers and fisher folks,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante

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fisher folk groups, and may we ask po that Tim be recognized, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Go ahead, Tim.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Yes.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Just on the topic ni Ken, kasi nabuksan niya yung farm-to-market roads,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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and I just want to share with the Secretary,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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alam ko linilinis na ito ng department, pero mayroon pa rin kaming nakitang mga,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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we call it red flags rin, in line with what Ken mentioned.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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And Mr. Chairman, thank you rin for inviting the People's Budget Coalition.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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We've been working with them since last year.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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In fact, malaki po yung kanilang papel kung paano natin inayos yung 2026 budget.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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At dahil sa pagtutulungan natin,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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yung recent Supreme Court ruling, hindi apektado yung 2026 budget.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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It's only on the 2024 and 2025 budget.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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And that's also with the close coordination with our civil society organization, kay Sen. Kiko, nung hinimay niya mga farm-to-market roads at irrigation projects.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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So, Secretary, may nakita pa kami yung tawag namin mga red flags, mga 29 projects worth P660 million.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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I know this is not big compared to the P16 billion total FMR.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Pero dahil yung Kongreso nagpasok ng P6 billion, hindi namin alam kung yung P6 billion na yun ay naayon sa inyong master list or master plan.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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So, but nakita namin may mga ganitong mga red flag.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Next slide, Elena.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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First yung the same name.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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So, nakita namin doon sa mga FMR may mga pare-pareho yung pangalan.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Next.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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The same name, but different project coordinates.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Pag tinignan natin yung pangalan, pare-pareho, pero hindi man pareho yung coordinates.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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And then next.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Different name, but the same coordinates.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Ito mas delikado ito dahil iba yung pangalan, pero parehong coordinates.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Yun yung sinabi kanina ni Ken.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Baka.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Nasa ibang lugar.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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I think, baka may, to give the benefit of the doubt, baka mali lang i-input, no, nung numbers.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Kasi puro numbers yan.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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But when I received a briefing from the People's Budget Coalition, may mga coordinates na nasa, no, nasa Benham Rise.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Yung iba, nasa ibang, hindi nasa Pilipinas, no.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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And then next, ito rin, delikado rin ito.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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So, the same project, the same coordinates, reappearing independently.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Different years.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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No?

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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And we only compared 2026 and 2027.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Baka meron pa yan sa 2025, 2024.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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So, fina-flag lang namin in department.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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We just want to let the department know may mga ganitong red flags.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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We'll be more than happy to share with the department itong list para malinis ninyo yung inlistahan.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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And with the recent amendment or insertion ng house na 6 billion, we will also review this.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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In cooperation with our civil society organization.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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But sa department, gawin nyo na rin yung review.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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At yun naman yung agreement natin, dapat pasok siya doon sa inyong master plan.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Para everything is coordinated with the department.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Thank you, Senate President, Mr. President.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Go ahead, Tim. You have the floor.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Magandang hapon po.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Timothy Salamon from People's Budget Coalition.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Representing Task Force Mapalad National Peasant Federation.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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One million farmers across the nation that availed of the land rights through the Agrarian Reform Program.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Maraming salamat po.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Actually, pinapunta ko dito ng elders ko, si na Christian Munzod, Atty. Christian Munzod.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Atty. Manding Harilia.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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They wanted me to take an angry tone.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Pero upon hearing the discussion earlier, sabi ko kay Atty. Christian.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Atty. Christian, parang binibigay nila yung gusto nila atin makuha.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Natuwa po kami.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Yung doon sa discussion regarding doon sa RSSI.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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We do note just some further details on this.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Napakalaking bagay po kasi nito.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Ano po eh, nabanggit kanina, napakamahal nung insecticides that are being purchased for RSSI.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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I believe from 10,000 per hectare po iyon.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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And we do note na napakababa ng budget na binigay sa SRE.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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To deal with that insect.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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And natutuwa po kami na the SRE has already mentioned that there are biocontrol mechanisms to deal with this.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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We already submit this to the DA and we are glad na nakinig po kayo sa recommendations sa civil society.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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In fact, 10,000 per hectare po yung synthetic pesticide.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Yung sinasuggest po namin na biocontrol.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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2,600 per hectare lang.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Nabibili po mo siya Shopee.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Tapos pag binili mo siya Shopee,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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pwede mo siyang padamihin sa isang lab na kayang gawin ng mga agricultural students.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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So, we do support that budget.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Sana pataasin po yung pagkontrol mismo dito sa peste na ito.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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In fact, itong peste na RSSI, kapatid po siya ng cocolisap.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Sen Pangilinan.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Pareho silang, they bore into the actual cane.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Tapos sisip-sipin ngayon tamis.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Kaya siya masama siya sa sugar.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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So, I also wanted to,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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kung ano po yung ginawa,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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kung ano po yung ginawa nyo sa coconut,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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please do it with sugar.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Kasi ang dami pong nawawalan ng hanap buhay dahil dito siya sa cocolisap.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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I just wanted to follow up po.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Deliver niyo po yung budget na yung DA.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Hingin niyo po sa Senate yung susuportahan po ng civil society.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Yung hihingin ninyo.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Kasi napakadami po talaga ng apektado.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Pangalawa po,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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hindi lang po sana namin gusto gawin ito sa sugar.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Nabanggit na rin doon sa usapan with

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Sen Zubiri

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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na napakalaki nung issue nung access to fertilizer and pesticides na imported.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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And we do note that

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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bukod sa mahal,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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nakakasira siya sa lupa.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Tapos there are actually reports that

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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we are still using about seven fertilizers,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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particularly ang banana,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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na banned na sa European Union and the US.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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We need to take it.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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We will submit you the list of the actual names of the fertilizers.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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So this is the point is to say

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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that we wanted to veer away from importing fertilizers and pesticides.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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And to develop our own industry.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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To develop more nature-based and farmer-friendly inputs to farming.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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In essence kasi,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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you take away the money from importing.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Pag ininvest mo siya sa baba,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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magdadagdag ka ng value na pwede i-create nung farmer.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Dagdag income sa kanya kasi yun e

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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pag siya yung gumawa ng mismo fertilizer.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Pag mayroon mo pa yung lupa kasi hindi mo sinira because of synthetic fertilizer.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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So we do encourage this.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Sana po makita namin ito.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Ang tagal na namin pinapush ito throughout all of the commodity chains.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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So yun po yung mga natutuwa kami.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Some points that we remain concerned about.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Mayroon po rin pong reports that

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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I think Inquire published that about 40% of our farming and fishing population

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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remains to be registered with the RSVSA.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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So we wanted to press na

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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sana may action plan to deal with this gap on registration.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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From what we also understand,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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most of the consequential services of the DA require

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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some form of registration.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Magiging farmers association or fisher folk association.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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And yet the numbers do tell,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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and this is from a report by the ATI themselves,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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na 80% lang ng farmers natin ang may access to organizational registration.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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So in essence,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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by that policy,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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only 20% are reached by very big agricultural support services.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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And ito po, problema ko po yun kasi ang laki po ng budget ng DA.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Ang ibig sabihin mo ba nun 20% lang talaga yung balak natin pagsisilbihan?

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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We already suggested from the last budget,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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nag-participate din po kasi kami doon.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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We issued questions to the House of Representatives sa DA last year.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Nag-commit po ang ating DA to invest on community organizing

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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or in improving yung pag-fe-federate ng mga farmers

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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into actual agricultural cooperatives.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Hindi ko po nakita where that promise went.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Pero I do recognize that this is already in the bill of the good senator na ano yung

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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agricultural extension and cooperatives bills.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Bukod po dito, hindi naman po kailangan po yung batas,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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but we also note na hindi din po gumagalaw yung,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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civil society led na Philippine Action Plan for Family Farming.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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We already participated heavily on this.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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It was inked on 2019.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Ang pinaka thesis po, pinaka point po ng policy na ito,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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is to ensure that agricultural services do not remain with yung SUKI system,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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yung mga laging binibigyan,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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but actually penetrate yung family farms, yung mga poor smallholder farmers.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Na siya talagang yung majority of our farming population.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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So,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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I invite everyone.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Tingnan po natin yun, hindi po siya financed properly since 2019.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Hopefully, yung ATI also, si Ma'am Ricotera, we are very familiar.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Sana po pwede niyo po i-submit kina, Senator Kiko, kung ano po yung

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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kailangan ninyong budget para supportahan.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Kasi essentially, what we want with the PAP for FF,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Action Plan on Family Farming,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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is to strengthen the citizenship of farmers and fishers.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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To take, to influence the actual delivery of services.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Kasi maganda po yung agri-extension na the government wants to go closer to the farmers.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Pero the intent of the PAP for FF is that the farmers themselves access it.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Kumbaga, this is the demand side na nag-e-empower ng farmers.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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So, hopefully po, at this point.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Last point na lang po.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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We echo the point of Senator Ratul Tulfo that we want to pass the National Land Use Act.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Erwin.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Ah, Erwin po. Erwin, yeah.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Na ano?

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Concerned po kami kasi it's been a decade na rin that we've been converting more than we've been irrigating.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Consistent po yun.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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We've been irrigating at least 30% lang nung nako-convert every year in terms of coverage.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Tapos, sobrang dami yung farmers groups that issue concerns of accessing information on irrigation.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Kasi ang policy po ng DA, which we appreciate, meron siyang public consultation.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Merong public consultations every time there's reclassification ng local government units.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Tsaka may conversion with the DAR.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Ang problema, wala kasing access yung farmers dun sa irrigation data.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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And therefore, hindi sila makapag-participate meaningfully.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Di ko alam, I give the benefit of the doubt, this might just be a technological issue or technical issue na hindi mabigay yung data.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Pero sana, sana hindi po ano, sana seryosohin na po ito.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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Kasi mauubos na po yung sakahan natin at hindi pa rin napapasa yung Land Use Act.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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So in the meantime, baka pwede po ito gawin ng DA na everybody gets access to that information.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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So that we could meaningfully participate when any farmland is being applied for conversion.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon

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So yun po, salamat.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Okay, thank you Tim.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Just to inform you also, it's actually the measures that we have passed on.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Third reading in the Senate are twin measures.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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The Extension Services and the Bureau of Agriculture and Fisheries Co-ops re-establishing.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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In other words, the organizing, the development of the agri-coops, we will now place under the Department of Agriculture rather than with the Cooperative Development Authority.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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The CDA will handle the regulation.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004175

But the strengthening and building and developing the agri-coops will be directly handled by the Department of Agriculture.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004176

Which was what it was before the devolving of the agri.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004177

To the local governments.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004178

So there used to be a Bureau of Agriculture and Fisheries Extension Services and a Bureau of Agriculture and Fisheries Co-op.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004179

So ibabalik natin dahil nga kailangan ng directang suporta hanggang sa grassroots level ang ating mga magsasaka at mga anginista.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004180

So thank you for the inputs of Tim and Ken.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004181

Yes, go ahead sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004182

Mr. Chair, I would like to take the opportunity habang nandito yung People's Budget Coalition to bring up a topic about yung aming livestock budget.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004183

Para open at walang, ang request kasi ng DA is yung 20 billion doon sa IDCA funds na every year bibigay sa amin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004184

Basis sa rules of the GAAA, hindi namin magagamit for next year eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004185

So sayang.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004186

So ang sinasabi namin kung pwedeng tanggalin yan sa aming budget next year at ilipat na lang sa 2028 when we are ready to implement that.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004187

And ibalik yung regular budget namin for 2027.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004188

Kasi with the way things are instructed doon sa GAAA for 2027, November na namin matatapos yung, November 2027 matatapos yung restructuring ng DA laws.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004189

So just to re-structuring ng DA livestock grupe.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004190

So I am just putting it on the table in front of yung ating mga ngos.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004191

Para, for full transparency, kasi baka makita ninyo na sa kali pumayag ang bite camp na baguhin namin, walang walang kalokohan doon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004192

Kailangan namin gawin kung hindi, patay ang livestock sector natin next year, yun lang sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004193

Okay, thank you. Thank you for that, Sec. I just wanted to clarify, going back to the budget, yung biosafety na 1 billion which we restored last year, may we know what's the status? Kasi my understanding is hindi pa ito na didisburst, hindi pa na-obligate.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004194

Yes, sir. Yes, Mr. Chair. Well, I'm happy to report that we are ready for bidding already on the three sites. We are just waiting for the SARO. Na-request na namin, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004195

So you expect the SARO to be released anytime?

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004196

Yes, Mr. Chair.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004197

Okay, thank you. So that's good news. Dito sa solar power irrigation for 2025, yung nabanggit ng COA na

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004198

1.64 billion of the solar power.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004199

irrigation for 2025 had not been utilized or had not been obligated or disbursed?

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004200

Mr. Chair, na-re-issue lang sa amin yung SARO niyan a few months ago.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004201

Oh, just a few months ago. Okay. So, andyan na? Ready for...

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004202

Yes, Mr. Chair. We are bidding pa lang now, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004203

Okay, thank you. And yung sa cold storage naman of 2025, 1.5 billion. Again, lumabas na ba yung SARO nito? Kasi as of COA findings, 1.4 percent pa lang ng 1.5 billion, and because you are also asking for another appropriation for 2027, so how is it now with this cold storage?

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004204

uh appropriation our research here uh it's being implemented as I mentioned actually

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004205

last week I was in uh this week I was in council we turned over four uh we finished already on pili

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004206

camsure uh mega cold storage that's 500 million uh earlier this year uh 60 units 70 units

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004207

uh okay just just to be to be able to understand it but not delay yung saro

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004208

um no meaning bucket naging 2025 a 1.4 percent lang yung cold storage uh utilization what happened

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004209

there it's more of the technical designs but no that's why it took long but now since the

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004210

top of tsunami lahat now it's on be uh on construction of all that so it's popping out

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004211

um okay and I would assume the same for the solar power irrigation uh there was solar power

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004212

irrigation uh Mr chair na flr huyan eh okay so the one technical uh just to explain more on the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004213

modular cold storage yes uh actually like partly the immerging design of innovation

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004214

uh because I wanted the off-grid

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004215

would mean solar with battery

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004216

and para makasigurado,

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004217

linagyan pa namin ng wind

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004218

turbine. Then yung structure

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004219

to carry the solar

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004220

panels,

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004221

may laking debate pa doon sa design

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004222

eh, kasi will we over

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004223

design it or not eh. So the decision

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004224

was, i-over

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004225

design na ng konti para

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004226

doon sa area mataming dagat

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004227

and everything, may medyo

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004228

bagyo resistance. Partly

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004229

that was the main issue.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004230

Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004231

Of course,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004232

every time I see the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004233

inaugurations, you know, I'm

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004234

happy na may mga

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004235

tiniturn over.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004236

My concern lang is the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004237

beneficiaries of these

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004238

projects, are they

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004239

capacitated

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004240

to

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004241

absorb it and make sure

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004242

that it is properly maintained and

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004243

utilized? Because

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004244

that's actually, you know,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004245

a recurring concern. Nata-turn

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004246

over yung equipment, nata-turn over

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004247

yung facility, pero

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004248

in the long run, dahil

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004249

yung capacity ng organizations

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004250

are such, hindi

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004251

hindi na may

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004252

maintain. Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004253

sa training on the use,

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004254

may training talagang kasama

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004255

as a part of the package. Then

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004256

as far as maintenance is concerned,

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004257

three years ho ang warranty niyan,

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004258

period. So, I think

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004259

three years is medyo

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004260

maganda yun.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004261

Then, it's simple to use. Actually,

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004262

when I inaugurated four,

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004263

just last,

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004264

just this week, actually, Monday.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004265

Tama, Monday.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004266

Kausap ko mismo yung farmer.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004267

Sige ko, marunong ko ba mag-operate nito?

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004268

O, boss, naturuan ako. Sige ko, pakita mo

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004269

nga sa akin. So, siya mismo. Although, kasi

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004270

push button lang siya. Tapos, of course,

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004271

there's a number there naman kung nasira

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004272

at pwede lang tawagan.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004273

So, after service lang ang kailangan.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004274

Kailangan namin tutukan siguro. But,

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004275

it's simple enough to operate.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004276

It's robust. Matibay namin ginawa.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004277

And, I'm sure

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004278

makakatulong ho yun, Mr. Chair.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004279

And, maybe your

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004280

your reach program should be

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004281

di ba, should

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004282

also be dovetailing

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004283

efforts, the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004284

turnover, and then you have

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004285

you know, your reach program wherein

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004286

nariyan yung ating mga

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004287

agri-extension workers

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004288

providing,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004289

monitoring,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004290

assistance, and the like.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004291

Tama ba yun? Yes, Mr. Chair.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004292

Yung inyong thrust sa ating reach

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004293

program with the extension workers

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004294

will solve 50% of the

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004295

problems of the Department of Agriculture

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004296

and support lalo na yung hinihingi ni

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004297

Mr.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004298

Salomon

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004299

na mga issues na

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004300

they wanted to be resolved.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004301

Extension workers talaga ang key.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004302

Even yung sa RSVSA, without

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004303

the extension workers, it is in

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004304

possible, I tell you, impossible na

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004305

maayos namin yan. That is the only

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004306

way, extension workers, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004307

Thank you. Maybe you can convince the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004308

President na i-certify us

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004309

urgent para maipasa na ng house.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004310

Tapos na tayo rito eh. It's

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004311

the house that's

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004312

working on it.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004313

Yes, Mr. Chair. I will really

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004314

push for that, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004314-split-2

Di ba? Kasi

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004315

we need it passed. In fact,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004316

I had hoped that we could pass it

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004317

before we finalize the budget

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004318

so that may mailalagay na tayo.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004319

Na tayong pondo. But in the meantime,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004320

we will probably just augment

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004321

yung REACH

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004322

program ng DA

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004323

in anticipation

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004324

of the creation of

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004325

the Bureau.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004326

And we can probably have, we might

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004327

have to include a provision

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004328

dun sa BICAM.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004329

Di ba yung transition? Di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004330

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004331

So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004332

thank you. We

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004333

now go to...

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004334

yung fisheries, no?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004335

You know,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004336

Director, nung March,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004337

nag-hearing tayo,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004338

may mga hinihingi

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004339

akong dokumento sa inyo, no?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004340

Hindi nyo pa naibibigay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004341

Pati ako na,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004342

pati kami, medyo na

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004343

hindi naman na-discaril, pero na-distract

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004344

dahil nga nagkaroon ng

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004345

Senate

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004346

Senate

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004347

Senate

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004348

Senate

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004349

Intramurals.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004350

Di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004351

Pero sabi ko nga,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004352

after that happened, and then a few

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004353

months, a few weeks,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004354

sabi ko, okay, the Senate is back to work.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004355

But hindi nyo na-submit sa amin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004356

You don't have to submit it now,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004357

but before plenary

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004358

in November,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004359

hiningi ko sa inyo yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004360

binanggit ninyong

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004361

mga kaso, di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004362

Involving encroachment.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004363

This was the...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004364

issue of your monitoring

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004365

yung mga violations

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004366

sa municipal waters,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004367

violations nitong mga commercial vessels,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004368

et cetera.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004369

Pero sabi nyo, isasubmit ninyo, pero wala kayong

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004370

sinubmit, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004371

For example,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004372

I asked you, what were these

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004373

of the 7,639 cases,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004374

how many involve

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004375

encroachment into municipal waters?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004376

Di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004377

Sabi nyo,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004378

all these cases

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004379

involve not just encroachment,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004380

but also other illegal activities.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004381

So I asked you for

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004382

a breakdown.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004383

Okay? Tapos, how many

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004384

cases involve entry into the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004385

15-kilometer municipal waters?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004386

You identified

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004387

551

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004388

Section 86 violations,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004389

but you did not provide

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004390

a complete breakdown of the 7,600.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004391

I want to know if you're

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004392

actually being able to police

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004393

the waters. Because the Mercader

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004394

case does not apply

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004395

to all other commercial

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004396

vessels. It only applies

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004397

to Mercader, correct?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004398

Correct?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004399

Correct?

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004400

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004401

Di ba? Kasi kayo nagsabi nun eh.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004402

Sa Mercader lang ito. That's why I went

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004403

to, eh paano nyo na

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004404

mamonitor? Eh ngayon, nagka-problematize

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004405

dahil sabi ng Supreme Court.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004406

Ah, nag-MR,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004407

ba ang ano? Ang

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004408

ah, ang BIFAR

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004409

dun sa ruling na

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004410

na hindi pwedeng

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004411

lagyan ng monitoring

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004412

equipment yung mga

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004413

commercial vessels?

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004414

Yes, Mr. Chair. Lag-MR po

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004415

ang BIFAR. So the case

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004416

is still pending?

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004417

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004417-split-2

Okay. Can you

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004418

give me copies of your

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004419

petition? Ah?

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004420

Ah, yes. We will provide.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004420-split-2

Kasi paano nyo

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004421

ngayon mamonitor?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004422

Yung municipal waters at yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004423

violations ng commercial fishing

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004424

vessels kung wala na yung inyong

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004425

ah, equipment.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004426

Ah, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004427

Tapos wala namang kayong maraming

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004428

bapon na pwedeng coast guard,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004429

enough coast guard, ah,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004430

and bureau of fisheries

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004431

vessels to be able to monitor

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004432

ah, our

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004433

municipal waters.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004434

Ah, Mr. Chair, ah, traditionally

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004435

ah, BIFAR has been

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004436

continuously implementing

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004437

its business monitoring BIM

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004438

in line with international

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004439

practices in fisheries

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004440

monitoring and law enforcement.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004441

Tuloy-tuloy pa ang aming implementation.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004442

I know. Well, as best as you can

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004443

given your limited

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004444

equipment, personnel,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004445

di ba, and the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004446

and the massive

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004447

coastline of the country, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004448

So I understand. You're

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004449

doing what you can. That's why I want to see the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004450

petition, di ba? So, please.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004451

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004452

Sinabi nyo,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004453

isasubmit yung data bago

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004454

mag-plenary, isubmit ninyo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004455

Ah?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004456

Tapos, how many notices of violations

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004457

were issued for encroachment?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004458

How many became complaints?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004459

Di ba? Kasi iba pa yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004460

notice, iba pa yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004461

complaint. Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004462

And how many of the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004463

551 section 86

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004464

cases were resolved?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004465

Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004466

And i-update na ninyo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004467

At the latest, 2026,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004468

as of third quarter,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004469

if you can submit that, no?

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004470

Ah, yes, Mr. Chair.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-004471

Tomorrow, bigay namin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004472

Yes. Hindi pa tapos yung ating hearing sa

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004473

municipal waters because we are preparing

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004474

a bill to clarify

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004475

precisely a law.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004476

Di ba? To amend the fisheries code.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004477

Ah, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004478

Kayo na rin ang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004479

doon sa hearing na yun, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004480

Ang sinabi ng ating mga

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004481

stakeholders,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004482

yung mga malalaking vessel na

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004483

pumapasok sa 15 kilometer

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004484

municipal waters area,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004485

sinisira yung mga

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004486

coral reefs. Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004487

Ah, kaya

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004488

yung batas na yan, yung panukalang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004489

batas, dapat ma-uproobahan natin

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004490

para maprotektahan yung ating municipal

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004491

waters. We're also looking

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004492

at the data. Tama ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004493

Dahil mukhang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004494

nagbago yung data, nag-improve

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004495

yung income ng mga

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004496

small fishers, pero in 2020,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004497

2025, tumaas ang kita

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004498

ng commercial fishing,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004499

tumaas yung production, pero

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004500

bumagsak yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004501

production ng

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004502

small fishers.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004503

I need the data

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004504

today. Ano na ang production

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004505

output ng small fishers

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004506

relative to the commercial

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004507

vessels?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004508

Di ba? Yung breakdown nun.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004509

Alam ko,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004510

by quarter, tumaas, pero

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004511

mas gusto ko makita yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004512

buong picture.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004513

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004514

Now,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004515

para sa...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004516

For the high value crops,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004517

my understanding is

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004518

based on the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004519

COA findings,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004520

yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004521

obligation rates,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004522

nagbago na ba ito?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004523

And your disbursement rates?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004524

59%,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004525

59.3%

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004526

disbursement rate.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004527

So may balance

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004528

si pang 665 million?

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004529

Thank you for that,

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004530

Mr. Chair. Umakit na po tayo

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004531

sa 73%.

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004532

And then may commitment po tayo

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004533

to improve the obligation by October

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004534

to 80%.

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004535

To 80%.

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004536

And then by November to 90%,

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004537

and by December to 94%,

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004538

Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004539

Yes, because if you will recall,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004540

in the last budget cycle,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004541

we introduced

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004542

440 million additional

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004543

for high value crops, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004544

Particularly for coffee and cacao.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004545

But my understanding is,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004546

kulang pa ang documentation ninyo

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004547

para ma-release yung pondo

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004548

ng DBM.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004549

How is that going now?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004550

Kasi hindi pa daw na-re-release.

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004551

Thank you for that question, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004552

Actually, the biggest chunk

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004553

is the AEW incentives.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004554

Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004555

Nasa 200 million po yun.

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004556

Currently, what we're doing is

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004557

we request, we provided

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004558

already the mechanism

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004559

kung paano nila

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004560

i-re-release yun

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004561

considering the AOM

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004562

and the, from COA.

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004563

And so with

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004564

that, Mr. Chair, we're confident

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004565

that that can be disbursed.

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004566

So that will trigger a higher

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004567

obligation rate

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004568

of the threshold level

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004569

to 80%.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004570

Okay. So, can you update us there?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004571

Kasi you're asking for an additional

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004572

magkano?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004573

Yeah.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004574

Yung sa UB, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004575

300 million ba?

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004576

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004577

Ako, I support that.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004578

Pero,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004579

how do we make sure na hindi

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004580

mabibitin yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004581

budget release because of

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004582

lack of

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004583

proper documentation?

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004584

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004585

We will do...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004586

If you can update us before plenary, just before plenary, kung may developments doon. Kasi documentation yan, so kinakailangan. The ball is on your court.

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DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero

asr-004587

Yes, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004588

Yes. Now, the same goes for yung sagipsakan na 500 million. Ano na ang status noon? Na FLR, tapos ang sinasabi ng DBM, kulang din ang documentation, tama?

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DA Assistant Secretary Joycel R. Panlilio

asr-004589

There were additional documentary requirements, Mr. Chair, but we've already completed it.

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DA Assistant Secretary Joycel R. Panlilio

asr-004590

And it's with our budget office already for the final review prior to release to the DBM.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004591

Sige. So, kompleto na, ha? Maraming...

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DA Assistant Secretary Joycel R. Panlilio

asr-004592

Yes, po, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004593

Pinaglalabang ko yung budget nyo. Tapos hindi pa pala na-re-release yung sagipsakan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004594

Pero, again, before plenary in November, if you can update us as regards the release.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004595

Dito sa...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004596

Meron akong tanong sa live staff, no? Kasi yung rendering.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004597

Remember, I asked for a...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004598

Napirmahan na, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004599

Can you clarify that? Yung memorandum of agreement between the DA and the BOC on rendering?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004600

Mr. Chair, meron na kaming...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004601

Well, basically, it was signed na.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004602

We have the copy here. We will submit to you today.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004603

Oh, yes. Thank you. Thank you.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004604

So, okay na ito, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004605

Okay. That's good. Kasi nga, may mga concerns noon.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004606

In fact, noong 20...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004607

Kailan yung sa... Big or global?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004608

Or?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004609

Yeah, yung 2024 incident of 100 million pesos worth of smuggled frozen meat na natiklo o...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004610

Nagkaroon ng raid.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004611

Nandun pa si Mr. Yusek Pineda ba? Arnel?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004612

Demesa.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004613

Nangyari doon sa huling hearing namin, and that's the reason why we asked for that,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004614

was because ang sinabi nung taga-NMIS na bigla-bigla silang pinatawag.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004615

Tama, di ba? If I remember right.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004616

If I remember correctly.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004617

At mag-inspect doon mano nung rendering.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004618

Di ba? Pero ang nangyari,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004619

eh, siya mismo umamin na, tawag dito, na hindi na-destroy, hindi na...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004620

It wasn't the... What's the term?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004621

Sorry. Forgive my...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004622

At binenta.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004623

At binenta.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004624

Sa mga fishpond owners, para pakain sa mga hito.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004625

Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004626

So, I don't know. Was that ever investigated by NMIS or by BAE?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004627

But anyway, there's another one. The reason why I asked that is because itong huli.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004628

Eh, nasan yun?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004629

Ito lang.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004630

Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004631

Ito ba yan?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004632

Yung 6.7 mis-declared chicken shipment busted at the port of Subic.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004633

Tapos, ang sinabi ay binenta ng 120 pesos a kilo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004634

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004635

Kaya natiklo ng BOE.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004636

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004637

Ito si...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004638

Where is that?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004639

Where is it?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004640

1,380 cartons of frozen chicken.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004641

Pero ang sinabi nga, ito was, imbis na na-render, eh, binibenta.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004642

Could you care to comment on this?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004643

Sino ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004644

Si...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004645

Okay. Go ahead.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004646

Seki.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004647

Seki.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004648

Basically, yan na nagiging palaging issue namin with the rendering facilities.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004649

In fact, I think nagko-coordinate naman si Yusek Ito sa office ninyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004650

We are actually the ones complaining na maraming rendering facilities na i-destroy nila.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004651

May pakitang taong in-destruction pero yung iba, binibenta.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004652

So that's why yung JMC na yan is very important na kailangan palagi ang DA at DAIE is present with other government agencies

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004653

para masiguro pag sinabing destruction, destruction talaga.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004654

It's a matter of food safety. It's a matter of elimination of smuggling.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004655

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004656

Initially, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004657

Yes. Yung the joint on condemnation shall not apply to, this is what page?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004658

Kailangan i-clarify ito, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004659

Agriculture and fisheries products ceased for violation of the anti-agriculture economic sabotage act

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004660

where the aggregate value of the ceased agri and fisheries products is 10 million.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004661

Bakit siya hindi mag-a-apply dito?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004662

Why was it excluded?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004663

In other words, kung mas malaki sa 10 million,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004664

Why was it excluded?

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004665

Mr. Chair, I think that anything over 10 million falls under the RA-1-2022,

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004666

which is the council is the one that decides because that has to go through the CTA.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004667

Sila naggagawa ng kaso.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004668

Yes.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004669

And anything above 10 million, sir, is only destruction.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004670

They have separate guidelines under the RA-1-2022.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004671

So anything below 10 million falls under the CMTA,

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004672

and it's the customs who decides the rendering or production.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004673

Under RA-1-2022.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004674

No, no, yes, yes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004675

But anything under 10 million is BOC.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004676

Yes, sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004677

And then above is AES.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004678

Is AAES.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004679

Falls under AAES already, 1-2022.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004680

Well, we will review this, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004681

And then we'll see.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004682

Kaya ibig sabihin, wala kayong kapangyarihan kung above 10 million.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004683

Wala na kayong say do sa rendering.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004684

It's only destruction, sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004685

Yeah, destruction lang nga.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004686

Yes.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004687

The way it's been going on.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004688

Okay, we'll review this, and then we'll let you know.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004689

Pero napirmahan na.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004690

Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004691

Well, it's a start.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004692

Then we'll take it.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004693

From there.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004694

Yes.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004695

The act of rendering, sir, falls under the BOC, not the DA.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004696

The DA is a witness.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004697

That's why we had the fixing of this situation, sir, with the joint memorandum.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004698

Okay, okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004699

Okay, sige.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004700

We'll review it, but at least it's a step forward, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004701

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004702

Sorry.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004703

Ano pa yung isa?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004704

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004705

The question regarding the farm-to-market roads, balikan ko lang, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004706

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004707

Doon sa 33 billion na-allocated, again, how much has been released, bid out?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004708

Mr. Chair, 23 billion has been released just this October.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004709

Just this October.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004710

23 of the 33.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004711

Ah, yes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004712

That was mentioned.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004713

So today, and it's a 15 million per kilometer, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004714

Ah, okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004715

Just to clarify, during the hearing last year, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004716

You initially, the Secretary initially cited 64,000 kilometers needed and 36,000 kilometers validated.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004717

But later on, naging 70,000 kilometers completed with 60,000 kilometer backlog.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004718

Na-reconcile na ito through Geotag.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004719

Okay.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004720

Ang latest figures namin ngayon, yung completed is the same, pero yung remaining is, instead of 60, 52 na lang, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004721

52,000.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004722

52,000.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004723

And?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004724

And continues pa yung Geotagging, but soon to be completed, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004725

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004726

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004727

So, what is the, what is the cost of the backlog?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004728

About a trillion?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004729

Tama ba yun?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004730

900 billion ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004731

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004732

Kasi,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004733

our computation was for yung 2023 to 2028 National FMR Network.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004734

Uh, plan, I, I recall we agreed that all Farm to Market Road projects must be part of the, uh, FMR Network Plan, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004735

Number one.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004736

Hindi pwede yung pat, yung patse-patsya meron dito, meron doon, di ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004737

Um, Mr. Chair, 780 billion ang kulang to complete the Farm to Market Road at current prices, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004738

So, that's 780.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004739

885 billion o to cover for 52,000, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004740

Uh, backlog.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004741

Um, so at the rate we're going, uh, at, uh, this year is how much?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004742

Uh, 16.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004743

16 billion this year.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004744

So, mga 50 years bago.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004745

49 years.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004746

49 years to complete the backlog.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004747

Well, obviously, uh,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004748

uh, it shouldn't be the case, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004749

But, uh, anyways, sige.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004750

Uh,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004751

what is your

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004752

strategic, uh,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004753

plan?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004754

Uh, Mr. Chair, isang plano namin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004755

is PPP

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004756

ng FMR.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004757

Uh, we're planning to have a

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004758

PPP for 8 billion, meh?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004759

For, for

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004760

2027 ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004761

FMR on top

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004762

of the 16 billion uh so if the bpp idea works the plan works then maybe sa 2028

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004763

yes um well yeah it's good you mentioned that because i if i understand correctly based on the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004764

current updates on the farm to market road program uh of the how many

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004765

uh there are four modalities uh buffet dpwh ppp and lgu

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004766

But right now the bulk is still with public works. Tama?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004767

Mr. Chair, as of the moment, mga 65% is with public works. The rest would be DA na yan. DA naman, we farm it out also to LGU, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004768

Yes. So DA has 162 projects, 5.35 billion. Public works has 1,204

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004769

projects 22.3 billion and then the lgus so far have 252 projects which is 5.36 billion

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004770

But all these are still coordinated by the DA, right?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004771

Ang timon ho ay ang DA, Mr. Chair. Tapos yung sa public works figure, actually bumababa nang konti yan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004772

mr chair okay and 23 billion has been released uh the remaining 9.6 billion are targeted for

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004773

submissions to dbm by november that is what your report is your update uh yes mr chair okay okay

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004774

So what you are saying is eventually wala pa, wala pang PPP dito sa...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004775

Wala pa. I-correct ko lang yung sarili ko. Yung plano namin PPP is 80 billion, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004776

Okay. And that 8 billion is of this, yung balance nung 33, yung balance after the 23, tama?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004777

It is?no, it is after. Yung 80 billion na PPP is on top of the 33 billion, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004777-split-2

Okay.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004777-split-3

But that is for 2027, sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004778

2027. Okay. Okay. Sige. So, para klaro yun. Well, again,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004779

sabi nga nila you don't need to reinvent the wheel diba a a example of the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004780

Of the backlog in government infrastructure was the school building program during the time of President Aquino.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004781

By the end of his term, they were building 400 classrooms a week.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004782

And the backlog was 66,000.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004783

So, at one point, they were averaging 400 classrooms a week.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004784

And the bulk of that was PPP.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004785

And PPP, because you do have the bigger construction firms, the AAA,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004786

and they had the muscle, they had the reach, they had the capacity,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004787

and so they were given public bidding, the right amount of projects,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004788

kesa sa iyong patsi-patsiba, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004789

Merong 250 million dito, 10 million dito, walang economies of scale.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004790

So, your contractors will not participate,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004791

or,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004792

luge.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004793

But if you do PPP with, you know, big ticket items,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004794

then they have economies of scale.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004795

In fact, sinama na nila yung mga, yung mga far, ano, ano dito?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004796

Last mile.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004797

They were able to address even the last mile because they had economies of scale and they had volume.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004798

And only the private sector can really do,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004799

they can really do PPP in bulk, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004800

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004801

So, we hope, we hope that moving forward, ganoon ang magiging direksyon natin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004802

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004803

So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004804

anong isa?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004805

Yung issue sa ating corn, kasi feeds, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004806

Yung, yung MAV.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004807

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004808

Can you clarify this?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004809

Because yung concern dito is,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004810

although mas mataas yung ating corn stocks,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004811

according to PSA, 47% increase compared to last year,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004812

is, why are we increasing, di ba, the import volume?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004813

Mr. Chair, ang ini-increase po natin is yung MAV.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004814

Minimum access volume for lower tariff corn.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004815

It is an anti-inflationary tactic para nga yung, or move para yung feed cost naman ng livestock natin,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004816

hindi rin masyadong tumaas.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004817

So, yun yung main purpose nun, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004818

How do we ensure, again, that our local farmers are not at the disadvantage as we bring in the necessary supply of corn?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004819

Meron tayong pwedeng sistema.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004820

Pardon na, yung MAV, yung MAV, hindi natin i-issue during harvest season, no, ng ating mga corn farmers,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004821

and it only will be utilized after harvest season, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004822

Major harvest season.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004823

The DA has the capacity to be able to manage the releases and the entry?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004824

Yes, through an IRR, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004825

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004826

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004827

Ah.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004828

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004829

Sa PCC, Philippine Carabao Center,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004830

kumusta yung inyong obligation and disbursement nung binadjet natin sa gatas?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004831

Yung school feeding, milk feeding program sa schools?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004832

Kasi tama ba ito?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004833

35%.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004834

Your target is supposed to be 8 million milk packs, but you only delivered 2.8 million.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004835

And then of the 93 school divisions, only 6 had completed delivery.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004836

45 SDOs had not yet awarded a contract.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004837

Ah, Mr. Chair, we will ask Yusek for livestock to answer.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004838

Yes, go ahead, Yusek Palabrica.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004839

Ah, doon na sa PCC, head na lang, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004840

Nandito pala.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004841

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004842

Ma'am, go ahead, ma'am.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004843

Honorable Chair, our obligation has increased.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004844

Increased?

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004845

Already?

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004846

Already by 80.04%.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004847

Again, again, sorry.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004848

Ah, it has increased already at 80%.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004849

80%?

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004850

Yes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004851

From, ah, kasi this is as of September?

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004852

Opo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004853

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004854

Bakit pagdaganong parating na yung budget hearing, biglang...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004855

Ah, Mr. Chair, nakakatulong ang budget hearing.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004856

Salamat sa tulong ninyo.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004857

Honorable Chair, una po, siyempre, anticipated po.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004858

At the same time, ah, we all rely to the, ah, instructions also of the SDOs.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004859

Yes.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004860

Ah, sila din po kasi ang magsasabi kung kailan po mag-i-implement.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004861

So, ah, ganun po yung status.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004862

And, ah, looking forward po until, ah,

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004863

April po ang implementation ng, ng milk feeding program po natin this year.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004864

Okay. Pero, binawasan yung inyong budget for...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004865

Opo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004866

Oh, how will that affect the, yung, ah, industry, yung dairy?

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004867

Ah, it will, it will, it is reduced at 449, ah, from 100, ah, from 1.12 billion.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004868

So, kalahati, less than kalahati po ang binigay.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004869

One-third.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004870

Ah, definitely, ah, the, the farming families or farming carabao raisers and cooperatives will be affected.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004871

Ah, mababawasan po ng...

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad

asr-004872

Okay, Secretary will answer.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004873

May I answer that, Mr. Chair?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004874

Yes, please. Go ahead, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004875

Ah, yan yung binabanggit kong problema dun sa IDECA na 20 billion.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004876

Kaya nabawasan yung mga major programs nila dahil nga meron na kami 20 billion, eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004877

But then, hindi nga namin magagamit ito.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004878

So, parang sa amin nga tanggalin ito at ibalik lang dati ito.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004879

Then, ah, so that tuloy-tuloy lang ang programa ng livestock group, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004880

Sorry, ah, hindi siya magagamit dahil, forgive my, you know, sa dami nung...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004881

Kasi hindi pa siya na...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004882

Sa, hindi na. For the restructuring, ah, we have to hire more people.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004883

Yung organizational chart.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004884

Plantilla, kailangan maset.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004885

And on timelines namin, it has to go to, ah, civil service.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004886

It has to go through DBM.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004887

It has to go through other...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004888

May back and forth pa yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004889

So, November next year pa namin magagamit yung 20 billion na IDECA.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004890

Okay.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004891

So, we, that's the formal request was made that, ah, we forego of the 20 billion of the IDECA

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004892

and revert back to our original NEP na wala yung IDECA.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004893

Understood. Understood.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004894

Ibig sabihin, ah, kung dalawang buwan na lang sa January, sa 2027 magagamit, what's the point?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004895

Diba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004896

Okay. Okay. We will note that.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004897

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004898

Okay, sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004899

Teka, can I have a...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004900

ah, bathroom break.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004901

So, we'll have a five minute, ah, and for everyone, we will have a five minute, ah, liquidity, ah, break.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004942

[unclear] Thank you very much.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004943

Report on 634,000 pesos worth of unsafe meat seized in Bulacan market. This is an article by ABS-CBN, October 16.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004944

So this was less than two weeks ago.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004946

Less than two weeks ago, government inspectors see some three tons of mishandled meat products at the Malolos Public Market, NMIS, DA, Dr. Jude Padasas, the enforcement head of NMIS, said the sweep was part of an ongoing Nation One campaign.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004947

Ano na ang status nito? Head? Okay.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-004948

Mr. Chair, nandito yung head ng NMIS.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004949

Mr. Chair, I'm Dr. Hernando Lantoco, IC, Executive Director ng NMIS.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004950

Yes, go ahead.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004951

Actually, isa ka sa mga top priority program ko sa ngayon ay palakasin yung enforcement.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004952

At dahil nga sa amin yung mga reported na mga mishandled doon sa palengke.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004953

So, nagkasapit.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004954

Pagka po tayo ng operation, it so happen na video parang meetip.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004955

Kaya kukunti lang yung nadali namin na prosent.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004956

Pero nakakumpis ka tayo ng mga almost two tons na mga galantina.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004957

Manok po yan na hindi po nagkaroon ng complete inspection.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004958

So, pagka po hindi po siya nag-undergo ng complete inspection,

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004959

that is considered hot meat po.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004960

Ito ay sinampahan na ng reklamo, tama ba?

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004961

Sa ngayon po ay ito po ay dahil unang huli lang po ito.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004962

Gusto rin natin maturuan na maging legal yung mga maliliit na nagtitinda.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004963

So, sa ngayon po ay confiscation lang muna na ang ginawa po natin, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004964

Okay. At anong rendering yan?

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004965

Ito po ay dinadala natin.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004966

Mga recognized na rendering facilities.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004967

At supervised po ito.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004968

From the time na pumasok hanggang sa makomplete po yung pag-render po nito.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004969

Documented po lahat ito, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004970

So, at yung balita naman doon sa binibenta ng manok.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004971

Binibenta nung mga nag-rerender.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004972

Actually po, meron pong ganyang bumabalita.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004973

Pero, ang sabi ko po ay, baka ito po yung nasabi kanina tungkol doon sa operation po doon sa Saklag.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004974

Pero wala po, hindi po nakasama rito ang NMIS operation.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004975

Ipinagbigay alam lang po sa amin yung operation kasi nalamang po nila na bago i-dispose,

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004976

kinakailangan may certification from NMIS.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004977

Pero noong nakaraalinggo,

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004978

meron pong dumating na apat na transport vehicle sa compound po ng NMIS

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004979

para i-certify po namin na yun ay unfit for human consumption.

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004980

And then, dila po ito sa, kung di po ko nagkakamali,

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NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc

asr-004981

sa 13 rendering facilities at doon po na supervised po natin yung apat na deliver ban na puno ng toad na mga chicken.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004982

Okay. Balikan ko lang yung sa rendering.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004983

So, napirmahan na yung Memorandum of Agreement.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004984

First Border Patrol dapat for agri-products should be turned over to the DA.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004985

But right now, you don't have destruction rendering facilities.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004986

Dapat part of the bio yung first border control yun at dapat kasama dun sa biosafety.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004987

But it looks like yung 1 billion, hindi pa sa rendering yun, ano?

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004988

Hindi pa po sapat yung budget for the five rendering sites and biosafe sites.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004989

So, the priority was biosafe site ho muna.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag

asr-004990

And then we can certify some rendering facilities in areas where we have major seaports.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004991

Okay, okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004992

So, we will continue to monitor that until finally we will have your facilities necessary to do your job.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004993

The other concern that I raised in the onion smuggling, onion heating in Nueva Ecija was the,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004994

and this is my last point before I turn over.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004995

It's the...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004996

Memorandum of Agreement that I asked the DA to sign with the PSA.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004997

The reason being that in that hearing in Nueva Ecija on the onions, the over-importation of onions,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004998

it was established that the PSA data is different from the Bureau of Plant Data.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004999

Lumalabas sa BP.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005000

Kulang ng 62,000 metric tons yung kanilang data in terms of production.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005001

Mas marami ng 62,000 metric tons ang PSA.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005002

So, dahil dun, kulang ang supply according to DA, kaya nag-import.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005003

Naglabas ng...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005004

Ang SPC, para makapasok itong onions.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005005

Ang problema, pumasok ng after or during harvest season na, for some reason.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005006

So, to fix that problem, I asked, and that a memorandum of agreement be entered into, right?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005007

And this is it.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005008

Ang problema nyo rito, hindi pa pirmado si...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005009

Yusek Bayate.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005010

Ma'am, hindi pa kayo pumipirmado.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005011

Hindi pa kayo pumipirma.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005012

Wala rito eh.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005013

Baka...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005014

At yung National Corn, nasaan si Program Director Wagas?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005015

Sabi ko kasi sa inyo, yung budget ninyo ay nakasalalay dito sa pag-draft nito.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005016

Eh, yan yung beauty ng check and balance, di ba, na ginagawa natin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005017

So, kung maaaring pirmahan ninyo bago mag-plenary para kompleto na ito,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005018

no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005019

Pati si Mr. Wagas, andito ba yung project director?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005020

So, pirmahan na ninyo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005021

Nauna na magpumirma si Secretary Kiko eh.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005022

Ha?

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DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate

asr-005023

Hindi dumating sa office ko, ano eh.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005024

Dapat may group chat kayo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005025

But anyway, please, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005026

If...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005027

Again, before plenary, ha?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005028

And then...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005029

We can now...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005030

Okay, so, nasaan si Mr. Wagas?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005031

So, hindi.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005032

Pakisagot na lang, napipirmahan ninyo, tama?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005033

Para magkaroon ng...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005034

Para ang PSA data at ang DA data on our production, iisa.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005035

Hindi yung mas marami yung...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005036

Kaya, dahil kulang mag-import.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005037

Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005038

So, where is Mr. Wagas?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005039

Go ahead.

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DA National Corn Program Director Abel F. Wagas

asr-005040

Your Honor, sir, pipirmahan po namin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005041

Okay, thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005042

Yun lang ang kailangan ko marinig sa inyo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005043

USEC, Bayate, sabi nyo na, pirmahan na ninyo.

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DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate

asr-005044

It's set.

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DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate

asr-005045

It only stayed in my office for one day.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005046

Ba't hindi pa nakapirma rito?

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DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate

asr-005047

I don't know.

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DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate

asr-005048

Basta, I make it a point na ganyan po yung senator.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005049

So, if you've signed it, thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005050

Ito lang ang binigay ng PSA sa amin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005051

But since you've signed it and he will sign it, Mr. Wagas will sign it.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005052

So, we're good.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005053

So, we're good.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005054

Thank you, Secretary, for this.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005055

Now, we can ensure that the data is rationalized.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005056

The information is iisa.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005057

Ang hirap nung dalawang iisa gobyerno, dalawa datos, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005058

On the matter of supply.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005059

Huwag naman, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005060

Para ma-reconcile natin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005061

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005062

So, we thank the good Secretary for this.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005063

And now, I turn the floor to the next round of Senator Aimee.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005064

Ma'am, you have the floor.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005065

Go ahead.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005066

You have 10 minutes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005067

Thank you, Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005068

Or even more.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005069

Because you're the only one left.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005070

Mag-duduwet tayo.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005071

Go ahead.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005072

Ako maraming salamat, Mr. Chair at Senator Kiko.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005073

Following up dun sa tanong ninyo tungkol sa sibuyas,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005074

magtatanong nang ako dito sa pinakasikat sa onion and garlic, yung Lea Cruz.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005075

Balibalita, namamayagpag na ulit.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005076

Samantalang meron siyang record-breaking fine ng 1.76 billion na administrative

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005077

dyan sa...

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005078

competition, commission, ano?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005079

Paano ba yun?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005080

Tapos, maliban dyan, dapat may criminal charges pa rin at sandigan ba yan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005081

Pero sa kabila ng lahat na yan, mga kaso-kasong yan,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005082

mainit ang balita na andyan na naman siya sa sibuyas at bawang.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005083

Ano po ang update natin tungkol sa Lea Cruz at yung mga grupo ng allium na yan?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005084

First of all, Mr. Chair, hindi ko kilala yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005085

Si Lea Cruz, narinig ko lang din sa dyaryo nung isang araw and I'm surprised na sa hatol sa kanya

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005086

and happy in a sense dahil nga at least justice will be served.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005087

Well, very happy po kami kasi sa onion and garlic producers, notorious po ito.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005088

Kaya nga lang narinig namin na nangangalakal pa rin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005089

So ngayon, Mr. Chair, as far as red onion is concerned, wala tayong importasyon ng red onion.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005090

For this year and hopefully, baka next year, halos wala rin.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005091

Sa puti at sa bawang.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005092

Sa puti, ngayon lang tayo nag-umpisa ng white onion importasyon and very limited quantity lang ho yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005093

It is distributed equally among the most people who applied.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005094

And I have not heard of Lea Cruz.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005095

But kung yan ho ang impormasyon nyo, I will investigate.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005096

I will investigate and deeper ang nakikinig naman yung enforcement natin.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005097

Papatulong lang po kami sa DA na pursigihin hindi lang yung napakalaking fine na pinapalakpakang po namin,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005098

na 1.76 billion, kundi pati na rin yung criminal charges na dapat pursigihin sa DOJ at sa Sandigan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005099

Ah, yes. Sige ho. I will try to pursue it with Secretary Vida and the others para nga mahuli ka agad at magbayad siya ka agad.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005100

Thank you very much.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005101

Thank you very much po. Malit lang yan sa kanya.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005102

Ngayon sa post-harvest, sangayon po kami sa sinasabi ninyo na yung NIA sana tumutok doon sa big ticket items like the dams, the impoundment and so on.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005103

Sangayon rin kami doon sa post-harvest na sinasabi po ninyo.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005104

Pero ang kasabihan, put your money where your mouth is.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005105

Pag tinignan yung budget ng DA, hindi maliwanag kung saan yung post-harvest ang tanging nanging ibabaw.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005106

Eh yung figure na napakaliit na nasa BIFAR, 516 million lamang.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005107

Pero nabanggit ninyo na nagkakaroon na tayo ng mga cold storage na magaganda, katulad sa tagig, tapos may logistics chain, may mga distribution and marketing effort.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005108

Magkano ba talaga ang ginagastos ng DA para sa post-harvest? Para sa kaalaman lang namin.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005109

Ah...

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005110

Kasi meron rin banggit dito na...

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005111

Naulit yata ni Secretary yung mechanical dryer, 380 pieces.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005112

At natuwa naman kami no, nabalitaan namin sa diaryo.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005113

Apakaliit eh, parang hindi siya priority pag tinignan yung budget.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005114

Ah yung sa, ah Mr. Chair, yung sa post-harvest natin, may 4.5 billion ano?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005115

Hindi pa kasama yun sa RCEF o how much?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005116

Where is the 4.5 billion?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005117

Located po? Under what category?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005118

Sa mga banner programs po yan, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005119

Sa alin?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005120

Kalat-kalat sa banner programs like National Rice Program, Coconut.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005121

May RCEF, may National Rice Program.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005122

Corn Program, Madam Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005123

Yes, may we inquire lamang kung maari, bigyan lang kami ng listahan para maipakita na tinututukan naman yung post-harvest dahil yun nga ang daing ng napakarami.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005124

23% na...

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005125

Ngayon, medyo mas maganda ang numero, sinasabing 16 to 17, pero parang hindi pa rin ramdam, ano?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005126

Ang laki nun kung tutuusin para sa problema natin sa bigas.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005127

So, we're really keen on following that up.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005128

Yes, Mr. Chair, we will supply all the data and kung anong ginagawa.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005129

But sa totoo lang, kulang din ang pondo. We need more post-harvest facilities, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005130

Yes, I only had a question.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005131

I also had a question with regard to NTA, yung tobacco.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005132

The tobacco fund had 11... had 116 billion at the end of 2025 with the projected collections of 13 billion.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005133

And yet, its proposed expenditure is only 699 million.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005134

Napakaliit.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005135

Kung tutuusin, ihahambing mo sa billion-billion na kinikita.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005136

Eh...

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005137

How much of that reported balance is actually available and legally usable?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005138

And what prevents a larger allocation for eligible tobacco farmer assistance?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005139

Bakit napapako sa wala pang 700 million?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005140

Nagtataka lang ako.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005141

Yung allocation sa budget ninyo, 143 million.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005142

Personal services, ganon din.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005143

143 million halos.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005144

So, ibig sabihin, ang farmer assistance na ibibigay, eh nasa 200 million na lang.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005145

Nakakatawa po eh.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005146

Why is the entire net increase in the NTA budget to be dedicated solely to higher personnel costs?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005147

Magtataas ba silang lahat ng sweldo rather than expansion of direct farmer assistance?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005148

So, that's two questions.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005149

How much money talaga yung NTA samantalang laki-laki ng levy?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005150

At ikalawa, bakit naman puro personal na lang ang bibigyan at hindi yung mismong farmer?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005151

Madam, Mr. Chair, we'll ask NTA head to explain.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005152

Good afternoon po, Madam Chair.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005153

Yung increase po na binigay is for...

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005154

Sa PS po napuntayin, dun po sa nung in-implement yung CPCS2.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005155

Ano yun? Sorry, sorry. Naa-alpha-benzupa ko.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005156

Sa...

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005157

Sa...

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005158

Nung in-implement po yung CPCS2, yung conference, ano?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005159

Increase ng sahod po across the board ng lahat ng government agencies, mga DOCC po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005160

SSL? SSL? O alin?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005161

CPCS po yung tawag.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005162

Pakibasa kung alin yun? Kasi marami po increase ng sahod.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005163

Pero yung pinaka-basic standard salarization.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005164

Yun po yung increase ng sahod po ng government.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005165

Yung standardization po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005166

Salary standardization.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005167

Mga DOCC po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005168

Pasensya, SSL ang pangalan nun? Iba yung sinasabi po ninyo?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005169

Compensation...

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005170

Ano?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005171

Compensation and position classification po. System po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005172

So kaya nagtaasa ng sweldo. Pero halos naubos naman yung budget ninyo sa sweldo lamang.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005173

Ano na lang ang ibibigay sa farmer?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005174

Hindi, ma'am. Doon lang po napunta yung increase na nadagdag. Pero regularly po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005175

So you're saying that this is an increase mandated by law?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005176

Yes, po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005177

Sure ka?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005178

Yes, ma'am.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005179

O sige, bigay na lang ninyo yan sa amin. Kasi parang ang hirap i-justify.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005180

Pag umabot kami sa plenaryo, e magtatakal lahat.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005181

At tinatanong talaga ito ng mga Ilocano kung bakit itong nangyari sa sweldo lang binigay lahat ng increase.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005182

At wala sila.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005183

At wala sila nagdagdag.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005184

Ma'am, continuous naman po yung proposal namin for additional.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005185

Coming from po nga doon sana sa excise tax.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005186

Kasi kinakailangan ni Paliwanag,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005187

why do you require as basis for making half of the production assistance repayable at the harvest?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005188

The safeguards against additional farmer indebtedness and the additional eligible support that can be financed from the tobacco fund.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005189

Paianoin nyo talaga po?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005190

Bakit yung base ninyo?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005199

half of the production

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005200

at repayable at harvest.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005201

Ano yung basehan ninyo to give assistance?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005202

Kasi nagmumukhang very

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005203

random and

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005204

whimsical

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005205

and capricious. Ika nga

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005206

sa batas.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005207

Ano ba yung basehan for giving

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005208

farmer assistance?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005209

Who's eligible

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005210

for support? Hindi po namin naintindihan eh.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005211

Kasi kung sino-sinong

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005212

binibigyan, yung iba hindi bibigyan.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005213

Ang sabi nila kasi,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005214

half of production assistance

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005215

repayable at harvest, ganun ba yun?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005216

Pwede ba ipaliwanag

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005217

ninyo sa amin kung sinong

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005218

bibigyan at sinong walang karapatang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005219

bibigyan?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005220

Priority po namin bibigyan, ma'am.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005221

Yung mga farmers namin under

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005222

sa contract growing system po.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005223

So nagbibigay po kami ng

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005224

farm inputs, pati technology.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005225

Sino-sino ang nasa contract growing

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005226

system ninyo para maalaman po namin?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005227

Meron kayong listahan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005228

Or pwede ninyo ipaliwanag?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005229

Sino-sino? Aling probinsya?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005230

Lahat, ma'am. Region 1,

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005231

Region 2,

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005232

sa hanggang Carpo.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005233

Parang wala akong

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005234

masyadong nababalitaan eh. Kaya gusto

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005235

ko maalaman saan para matumbok

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005236

natin kung sino nga talaga ang nabibigyan.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005237

We can provide a list, ma'am,

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005238

kung sino po yung mga kasama sa

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005239

contract growing system namin.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005240

Ano yung basehan ng additional

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005241

farmer indebtedness, yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005242

yun nga, yung mga eligibility.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005243

Kasi ang dami-daming nagtatanong,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005244

ba't ganun?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005245

The other question

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005246

is really a question of the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005247

Treasury. Maybe, Secretary, you can

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005248

inquire po. Kasi yung balanseng

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005249

tinakda ng ating Treasury,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005250

yung tobacco fund, dapat

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005251

116B

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005252

noong 2025. Tapos

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005253

sa 2027,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005254

13 billion na naman.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005255

Eh hindi naman nararamdaman yan.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005256

At hindi naman namin nakikita.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005257

Kaya, asan ba

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005258

napunta yung pagkarami-raming

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005259

billion-billion na yan?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005260

Ma'am, hindi rin po kasi na

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005261

wala kaming access po, ma'am.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez

asr-005262

Yes. Opo. Nasa DBM po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005263

Secretary, would you have any insight

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005264

into this enormous amount that doesn't

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005265

seem to make it to the farms?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005266

Mr. Chair, honestly, I

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005267

don't. But with

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005268

your inquiry now and your

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005269

I will actually, I was just a little bit afraid.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005270

Discussing with my USEC for operations.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005271

We'll go a deep dive into it and

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005272

get to the bottom of things.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005273

Malaking bagay yan. Kasi kung ganyang kalalaki

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005274

yan, Secretary, yung problema

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005275

natin sa post-harvest,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005276

eh at least masasagot na yan

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005277

sa Northern Luzon. At

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005278

hundreds of billions po

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005279

ang pinag-uusapan. Yun na yung budget

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005280

ninyo. And perhaps

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005281

in that same inquiry, we can

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005282

also ask what is actually

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005283

available now in cash

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005284

and legally,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005285

legally usable para

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005286

maipigay na. At yun nga,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005287

tutukan na nga yung post-harvest and

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005288

irrigation. Hindi po ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005289

Mr. Chair, Madam

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005290

Senator,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005291

salamat sa iyong direction

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005292

and we will take your

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005293

lead and follow through.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005294

Puling hirit na lang po sa tabako

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005295

kasi namong problema

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005296

kami, baka maitanong na rin sa

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005297

DOF kung bakit

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005298

sinasama sa provincial,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005299

LGU, municipal,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005300

income, yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005301

excise taxes share.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005302

Samantalang tulad nga nung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005303

sinabi ni Ma'am Sanchez,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005304

hindi naman rinirelease.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005305

Eh bakit nilalagay sa provincial

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005306

income or kaya sa municipal

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005307

income, sa city income,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005308

sinasama nila sa income.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005309

Eh hindi naman binibigay. Bakit

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005310

nasa income? Pwedeng tanungin

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005311

na rin yun. Kasi hindi naman siya income.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005312

It's not regular. It's not

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005313

complete. The releases are

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005314

so sporadic. So this is

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005315

what we would like to ask as well.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005316

Mr. Chair, I guess

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005317

I've instructed my COS

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005318

to make sure that we have something

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005319

to give you a report

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005320

before the plenary and kung ano man

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005321

ang aming proposals.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005322

Thank you very much.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005323

You still have time.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005324

You still have three minutes. Go ahead.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005325

Yes, I think

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005326

the reduction

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005327

although welcomed by our

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005328

financial managers of the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005329

DA's proposed budget for 2027

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005330

is causing some level

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005331

of alarm among our agricultural

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005332

communities. Given

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005333

that we are going to

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005334

be challenged by an extreme

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005335

El Nino situation.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005336

Maari bang malaman kung alin

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005337

yung mga specific programs

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005338

and projects na talagang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005339

pinakamabigat ang tama?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005340

Saan ba talagang na-reduce ng todo-todo

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005341

para walang gulatan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005342

Will this affect

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005343

food security

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005344

given the anticipated shortages?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005345

Will this hit farmers'

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005346

income given the inflation

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005347

that's officially at 7% already?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005348

Yun ang kinatatakutan

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005349

ng lahat.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005350

Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005351

ang isang malaking bawas sa amin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005352

sa banner program sa RISE din.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005353

That's why we are requesting

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005354

for an additional 8 billion.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005355

Sa livestock naman,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005356

kung maayos naman,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005357

it will go back to dati

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005358

which would be okay.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005359

So right now,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005360

price po and livestock

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005361

that got hit.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005362

Yung sa farm-to-market na reduction

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005363

na 17 billion, malaki din yun.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005364

The farm-to-market, the FMR,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005365

is that, are you referring to the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005366

PIP?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005367

Are you referring to the RDP?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005368

Or iba pa yun?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005369

That's your other regular program?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005370

Yes, Madam.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005371

That's the regular DA?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005372

Yes.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005373

So,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005374

yun sa livestock,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005375

yung kanina nabanggit ko,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005376

kung maayos yun dahil nabawasan yung budget.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005377

But because of IDCA,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005378

but if mababalik naman yung regular budget namin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005379

through the help of the Senate,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005380

then I think that will be okay na.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005381

In crop insurance,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005382

yun malaking bagay binawas.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005383

Ay naku, kailangan na kailangan yun.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005384

Lalo na next year.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005385

Next year, patay tayo dyan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005386

Yes, so kung matulungan ho kami tungkol dyan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005387

Of course, meron pa kami kulang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005388

sa funding ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005389

obligational

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005390

authority,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005391

PRDP na 1 billion.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005392

Alin ho yun?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005393

Alin yun?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005394

Philippine Rural Development Project

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005395

based on the funding schedules

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005396

Ah, yung PRDP?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005397

PRDP na yan?

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005398

Yes, PRDP na yan.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005399

PRDP counterpart?

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005400

Yes, yes.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005401

Binawasan yung counterpart natin?

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005402

Yeah, na 700 million.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005403

Yes, my question also there,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005404

that's been a long-standing project

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005405

and I'm just wondering,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005406

have we renegotiated the terms of that loan?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005407

That's a loan, di ba?

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005408

Pa-expire na siya, patapos na siya.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005409

By 2028, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005410

So, it's a very successful project.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005411

Actually, oversubscribed tayo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005412

So, kulang, we're requesting

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005413

the World Bank for an additional

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005414

extension, sana dahil.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005415

From 2028.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005416

Yes.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005417

Yes, I see.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005418

At saka, natagalan yan eh.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005419

Dati, dati ang tawag po namin dyan,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005420

puro review

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005421

daily project.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005422

But, I think now it's much, much faster.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005423

It is very successful.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005424

And talaga,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005428

Kasi ang tagal-tagal niyan, hindi talaga umuusad eh.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005429

Finally, ho.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005430

Okay. So, maraming salamat.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005431

Yung itatanong ko, yung BFAR and

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005432

NFRDI.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005433

What is delaying

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005434

the fisheries investment?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005435

And how are its benefits measured?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005436

In 2025,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005437

fish core obligated 1.188 billion

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005438

or 36.9%

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005439

only

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005440

of its 3.2 billion

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005441

allotment.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005442

And then, its disbursement,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005443

it was even less.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005444

Only 572.995.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005445

What are these infrastructure

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005446

and livelihood projects that are so

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005447

delayed?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005448

And when will the fisher folk finally receive

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005449

the intended benefits?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005450

Bakit po natatagalan ng todo-todo?

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005451

Tagot.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005452

Mr. Chair,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005453

Ma'am, good afternoon.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005454

Yung talaga niya about the fish core,

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005455

sa first transition kasi,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005456

medyo mahirap po yung requirements po ng

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005457

World Bank.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005458

Hindi ba kaya pa simple yan?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005459

Kasi dinaanan na natin yan ng PRDP.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005460

Hindi ba pwedeng usapan na

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005461

i-streamline na lang yan?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005462

Kasi nakakaawa yung fisher folk natin.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005463

As we know, the poverty rates

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005464

on the coastal areas are

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005465

two and a half times that of anywhere else.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005466

I think we should address this with great urgency.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005467

Ma'am, naayos po namin.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005468

Naayos na po na paganda na

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005469

by last June,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005470

by last June,

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005471

yung ating obligation,

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005472

almost 55% na

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005473

kasama na po doon, ma'am,

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005474

yung ating IMPRA.

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005475

Yung IMPRA natin almost completed na

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005476

out of 647 million,

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005477

almost done.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005478

Hindi natin dapat biguin

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005479

ang ating mga mga isda

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005480

kasi talagang inaasahan nila

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005481

na jackpot sila kay sekretary

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005482

dahil fishing magnate.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005483

Kaya, eto nga,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005484

na nalulogmok sila,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005485

doon sa 36.9% lamang

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005486

na obligasyon, dapat mataas-taas

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005487

naman natin.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005488

Ma'am, we're praying

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005489

that by the end of December

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005490

2026, yung aming

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005491

obligation, almost

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005492

85 to 90%.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005493

So, wala na ito?

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005494

Wala na yung mga updated na.

Source

BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig

asr-005495

Pwede kami mag-submit, ma'am, ng updated.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005496

Para masagot naman namin yung mga nagtatanong.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005497

Maliban dito, yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005498

NFRDI,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005499

may accomplishment report

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005500

sumobra naman yata ang ganda,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005501

123.98%.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005502

Ano ibig sabihin nun?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005503

What does it measure?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005504

Fish production ba yan?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005505

Cost?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005506

Coastal income?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005507

Ano ibig sabihin nung 123.98?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005508

Lumabis naman yata ito.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005509

Ang nag-report nyan yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005510

NFRDI,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005511

ay, andito ba kayo?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005512

Ano ibig sabihin nito?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005513

Hindi, kasi natuwa naman ako.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005514

Kaya lang, biglang napaisip ako.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005515

Ano kaya ibig sabihin nito?

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005516

Hello. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005517

Yung halos 124% accomplishment, ano ibig sabihin nun? Fish production output?

Source

NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005518

Ma'am, that's output. But to correct, ma'am, it's physical accomplishment po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005519

Define physical accomplishment.

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005520

So, yung ma'am, what we target in terms of our deliverables, like trainings and establishment of the aqua business.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005521

So, yung actual fish production, yung actual costing, yung actual beneficio sa income, sa pera sa bulsa ng mga isda, wala yun?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005522

Wala po.

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005523

Yes po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005524

Puro training lang kayo doon?

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005525

Yes po. Because, ma'am, we support po yung mga activities ng BIFAR.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005526

Alam ninyo yung DA, kapag nag-training kayo, diba, nag-techno-demo kayo, ang tawag po sa amin, techno-demonyo na.

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005527

Opo. Mr. Chair, yung po kasing function ng NFRDI is research. So, ang assignment po namin sa Fish Corps is on the capacity building ng mga technicians ng BIFAR.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005528

So, yung 123, ibig sabihin marami kayong na-train. Labis-labis ang na-train ninyo.

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005529

Ma'am, gusto ko po sana i-correct. I think that is 100% po, not 120%.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005530

It's in your report.

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005531

So, ma'am, siguro i-double check po namin.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005532

But this has everything to do with training.

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005533

Yes, ma'am.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005534

Walang uptick in fish production or anything?

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005535

No, wala, ma'am.

Source

NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005536

For example, ma'am, with regards to fish stock assessment.

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005537

We conduct.

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005538

We conduct capacity training on the.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005539

Ay, puro training yan sa katutak na techno-demo.

Source

NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia

asr-005540

And as well as, ma'am, yung data consolidation ng mga data from the stock assessment as well as we conduct the carrying capacity of our mariculture parks.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005541

Okay, okay. So, ganun lang yun. Yun lang, totally.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005542

Na-excited ako. Akala ko butoon eh.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005543

O, sige. Okay.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005544

So, thank you.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005545

Thank you po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005546

ACPC po, the COA identified 518 million undisbursed credit funds

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005547

that were not returned by partner lending conduits.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005548

Ano ba ibig sabihin ito?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005549

How much has been recovered or actually lent to eligible borrowers?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005550

Kasi yung ACPC na yan, matagal na yan.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005551

Eh ngayon, may undisbursed credit funds pa.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005552

Paano tayo hihingi ng karagdaga?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005553

Kapag hindi dinidisbursed ng DA?

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005554

Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Madam Chair.

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005555

For that findings, ma'am, that was already resolved po.

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005556

As of today po, the only unreturned undisbursed fund for 2025 is only 50 million.

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005557

50 million, ma'am.

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005558

Five zero?

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005559

Yes, ma'am.

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005560

So, which conduits took so long?

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005561

Actually, ma'am, it's for 2025.

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005562

And we are now resolving it.

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005563

We've already sent the demand letter to this partner lending conduit po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005564

Sino-sino sila?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005565

Pwedeng mahala?

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005566

Isa lang po siya, ma'am.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005567

Huh?

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005568

Nag-iisa lang naman po.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005569

Sino naman?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005570

Ang tagal.

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005571

sa North Luzon

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005572

po ma'am.

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005573

It's Guagua Rural Bank po.

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005574

Guagua?

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005575

Ba't nangyari yun?

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005576

Ma'am, nagkaroon lang po siguro

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005577

ng, actually

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005578

ma'am. Gano'ng katagal na iwan

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005579

sa Guagua? Matagal eh. Ang balita

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005580

ako, tagal-tagal. Hindi naman

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005581

ma'am. Mga one year po.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005582

One year lang? Okay.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005583

Ano nangyari?

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005584

The fund

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005585

was disbursed to them

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005586

to implement

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005587

a particular program. It's

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005588

for the palay yield

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005589

increase po. This is the entire

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005590

518.5?

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005591

No, ma'am, no.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005592

How much was released to Guagua?

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005593

90 million, ma'am. The 40 million was released to

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005594

borrowers, to end borrowers.

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005595

Only the 50 million po ang

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005596

remaining po na

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005597

undisbursed and returned.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005598

Teka, pero yung kuha ninyo, 518

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005599

ang rin na red flag? Sa

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005600

reconciliation lang naman po yun. Pero

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005601

na-address na po namin siya.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005602

O sige, mag-submit na lang kayo kasi

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005603

hindi siya good looking sa aming

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005604

mga report card. Sige.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005605

With the permission of Senator Aimee,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005606

just on the ACPC,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005607

yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005608

sa GIPSA

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005609

ka-act, meron ng

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005610

pagbebentahan ang mga

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005611

farmers natin, ano? Meron

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005612

ng secured market.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005613

Shouldn't the ACPC,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005614

come up with a program

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005615

that will precisely

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005616

provide credit

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005617

for the sa GIPSA

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005618

program

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005619

so that the farmers

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005620

can, kasi

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005621

kasama sa challenges

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005622

ng productivity,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005623

yung access to credit,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005624

di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005625

So, while you now

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005626

have the demand side,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005627

government buying directly

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005628

from the farmers,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005629

I understand, Quezon City government

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005630

bought about

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005631

230 million

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005632

worth of rice

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005633

sa mga co-ops, no?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005634

So,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005635

meron ba kayong

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005636

intervention? Meron ba kayong

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005637

programa

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005638

precisely to provide

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005639

credit for the

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005640

farmers so that

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005641

they can, you know,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005642

ensure a steady supply for

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005643

the sa GIPSA ka-market?

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005644

Yes, sir. Thank you for that

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005645

question, Mr. Chair.

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005646

We have po what we call the

Source

ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005647

agri-negosyo loan program, wherein

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005648

we lend to cooperatives, micro-small

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005649

enterprise po. So,

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005650

the loan amount po, especially

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005651

for working capital, is up to

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005652

25 million, which is more than

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005653

enough, actually, sir, to support their

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005654

trading business as well.

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005655

Yun po, sir, yung isa sa mga

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005656

programa namin, wherein one of

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005657

the things that we do, sir, is to register

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005658

sa FEDIS, sir, lahat po ng mga

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005659

MSEs

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005660

na sinusupport po namin para din po in compliance po with the SACA Act. All of these MSEs, sir, are required to register, sir, sa FEDIS po.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005661

No, I was referring to farmers enterprises and co-ops.

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005661-split-2

Yes, sir. Those are co-ops, sir, and farmer enterprises.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005661-split-3

Kasi, di ba, pwede na na yung collateral mo ay yung kontrata? Di ba? Di ba? Halimbawa, yung PIDIG Multipurpose Cooperative,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005663

parang 52 million ang benta nila

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005664

sa Quezon City Government.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005665

Di ba? So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005666

para madagdagan nila

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005667

yung capacity nila to produce,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005668

di ba, makakapag-utang sila,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005669

then, pwede nyo pa-utangin, no?

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005670

Yes, sir. Under the

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005671

agri-negosyo loan program, sir, pwede po, sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005672

Can you give me, well,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005673

if you have the information, no,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005674

a list, if

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005675

meron na, ng mga

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005676

pinautangan ninyo na ang kanilang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005677

kliyente, eh,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005678

ang gobyerno bumibili sa kanila,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005679

meron ba kayo nun?

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005680

Sige, sir, we can provide you with a list, sir. We'll submit, sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005681

Yes, please. Thank you. Go ahead, ma'am.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005682

Yes, following up

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005683

on Sen. Kiko, may

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005684

tanong, kasi may controversy

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005685

dun sa mga nakalista

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005686

na qualified sa

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005687

ACPC na kinikilalang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005688

agri-co-ops ng DA

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005689

versus yung mga co-ops

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005690

na kinikilala ng CDA.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005691

Hindi ba pwedeng i-align na once and for

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005692

all yung mga yan?

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005693

Actually, ma'am, the requirement of the

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005694

ACPC po are the co-ops

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005695

registered in the

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005696

CDA.

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005697

Since yun po yung regulatory.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005698

Hindi, siguro nagkakalituhan kasi may

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005699

nabanggit ka kanina ng mga

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005700

SMEs. Baka naman yun

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005701

na hindi co-ops.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005702

The MSEs. Kasi naglereklamo sila na

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005703

qualified daw sa CDA, di daw kinikilala

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005704

and vice versa.

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005705

Sa ACPC, ma'am, it's all registered

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005706

po under the CDA po.

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005707

I'm referring, ma'am, to

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005708

MSEs in terms of the classification

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005709

po in the asset size

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005710

of the enterprise, which includes

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ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero

asr-005711

po the cooperatives.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005712

I see. But Secretary Kiko,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005713

there is a bureau still under

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005714

the DA for co-ops, or

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005715

is that no longer extant?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005716

Mr. Chair, it is no longer

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005717

in existence.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005718

But we have an office

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005719

for agri-co-ops

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005720

to assist agri-co-ops lang.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005721

Ang management

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005722

and approvals pa rin yan sa CDA.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005723

But then, yun na nga, may sinusulong

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005724

din na batas si Sen. Kiko

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005725

na sinusuportahan ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005726

Department of Agriculture for the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005727

Agricultural Cooperatives.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005728

Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005729

Tapos na yun, no?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005730

Ipirmahan na lang dapat?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005731

House na lang.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005732

Walang house version?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005733

Pero, madali naman pa sa'yo,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005734

niwala nga ng appropriations clause

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005735

yung pobring bill na yun.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005736

Kaya nga eh.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005737

Kaya nga. So, yun,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005738

itatanong namin, tapos yung mga

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005739

farm inputs na substandard,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005740

andyan pa rin ba yung issue

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005741

na yan? Kasi,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005742

can the enforcement against substandard

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005743

farm inputs be sustained

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005744

under the reduced budget?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005745

Kasi nakita ko, isa pang reduction

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005746

yan eh.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005747

The FPA, yung proposed budget

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005748

falls by 36.5%.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005749

Malaki-laki siya for its

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005750

total budget. Yung MOE

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005751

niya declines by 30.4%.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005752

Capital outlay by

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005753

99.2%.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005754

Which reduction reflects

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005755

what? Yung purchases,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005756

inspection, lab testing,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005757

enforcement?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005758

Kasi medyo radical ang kanyang

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005759

deduction.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005760

In my opinion, Mr. Chair, medyo

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005761

a little bit of everything. All of the above.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005762

So, what's the...

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005763

You requested some kind of funding

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005764

also, additional minimum funding

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005765

para sa fertilizer and pest.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005766

To meet the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005767

proper

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005768

specifications.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005769

Kasi maraming reklamo dyan, di ba po?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005770

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005771

So, you don't think

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005772

that the budget cut

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005773

upwards of 36%

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005774

will affect this issue?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005775

I recall that you were requesting

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005776

almost 9 billion at the previous

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005777

hearing for pesticides,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005778

for fertilizer,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005779

for soil enrichment,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005780

and so on.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005781

Yung sa fertilizers,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005782

Mr. Chair, we have an option

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005783

with the same amount of money.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005784

Mag-convert kami

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005785

to a different type of fertilizer,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005786

soil ameliorants, which is cheaper.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005787

So, but kulang pa rin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005788

ng konti.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005789

But the soil ameliorant

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005790

is not fertilizer po. It's a

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005791

different function entirely.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005792

Kaya mas mura siya.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005793

Tama ko kayo, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005794

Pero mayroon pang bio-fertilizer pa.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005795

Foiler, inorganic,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005796

very liquid-based

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005797

urea or fertilizer.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005798

I see.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005799

I see. Okay. So, you're confident

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005800

this will not impact

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005801

on the already

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005802

numerous complaints

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005803

of substandard inputs?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005804

Mr. Chair, kulang pa rin talaga.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005805

That's why we are requesting

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005806

for additional 8 billion

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005807

dyan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005808

Dahil tumaas kasi lahat talaga

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005809

ng presyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005810

Mayroon ang pinakamalaking problema,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005811

tumaas ang presyo.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005812

Speaking of reductions,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005813

pasensya, matagal-tagal kasi ang haba-haba

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005814

ng submission ninyo kasi 1 million

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005815

yata ang attached agencies ninyo.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005816

Kawawa naman kayo.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005817

Pero ang dami kasing agency.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005818

Yung NMIS,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005819

will the operating budget cut

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005820

weaken the meat safety inspection?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005821

Kasi ito, malaki ito,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005822

78.5 ang reduction.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005823

Zero capital outlay.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005824

And then, the deducted allocation,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005825

is now transferred,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005826

temporarily lodged under OSEC,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005827

BAE,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005828

as part of the Animal Competitiveness

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005829

Enhancement Fund.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005830

Tama ba yung pagbasa ko?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005831

Tama ho yung pagbasa nyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005832

Kaya nga ang request namin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005833

Since hindi namin magagamit,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005834

Mr. Chair, yung aming animal,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005835

yung IDCA fund na 20 billion

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005836

because of all the prerequisites

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005837

for us to be able to

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005838

access that fund.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005839

We are requesting na restructure

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005840

yung particular livestock

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005841

budget na yan and go and revert

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005842

to the usual programs,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005843

Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005844

Yun yung binanggit ninyo kanina?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005845

Yung livestock needs topping up?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005846

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005847

I see.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005848

At baka maganda dyan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005849

yung 24 billion na kailangan na

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005850

nabibigay sana sa amin,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005851

ang kailangan namin with that restructuring

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005852

is 15 billion.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005853

So meron na meron magiging savings

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005854

yung

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005855

na pwede,

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005856

luluwag yung fiscal space to put

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005857

funds somewhere else

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005858

in the DA family to top up,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005859

Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005860

I see. So, sumatotal, how much funding

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005861

is lodged under BAE for the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005862

functions of NMIS?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005863

And how and when can NMIS

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005864

actually access

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005865

the combined funding?

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005866

Basically, Mr. Chair,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005867

to sustain the functions, di po ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005868

Kailangan lang namin maibalik

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005869

more or less to last year's budget plus 10%.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005870

I see. Last year

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005871

plus 10%. This year?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005872

Yes, budget pala. Ah, sorry.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005873

Additional 10%.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005874

And that will be under OSEC?

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005875

BAE? Ganon?

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005876

I'm not too sure. BAE, ma'am.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005877

NMIS, BAE, yung mga

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005878

same businesses.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005879

Kasi ngayon, linipat sa DA, OSEC, BAE.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005880

Because of the IDCA.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005881

That's right. So now, you are

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005882

going to move it to DA,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005883

OSEC, NMIS.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005884

To the different bureaus.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005885

Yes.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005886

Babalik lang siya sa 2026.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005887

Maybe you can,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005888

give us a short summary para maintindihan

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005889

namin. Kasi kapag

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005890

tinitignan, hindi mo

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005891

maintindihan masyado

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005892

kung reorganization

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005893

at kung may mali siya, mamaya sabihin

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005894

minamalverse.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005895

Yes, Mr. Chair, and maraming salamat

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005896

ho, Madam Senator.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005897

Kailangan namin niyo supportan

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005898

ninyo. Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005899

Just very quickly lang,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005900

Sekiko, dun sa usapin ng

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005901

yung 20 billion,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005902

because you have 24 billion,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005903

worth of

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005904

budget

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005905

additional funding.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005906

So, please,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005907

ano yung priority

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005908

nyo dun sa

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005909

24 billion na yun?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005910

Kasi baka hindi natin ma-accommodate

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005911

lahat. And then, ano yung palagay

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005912

nyo galing dun sa

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005913

livestock? Yun ang pwede.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005914

You give us

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005915

your wish list, di ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005916

Mr. Chair, I just made

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005917

the number 1 to 10.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005918

I don't know, based on priority, which will be submitted

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005919

to you within the hour.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005920

Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005921

Go ahead, ma'am.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005922

Nasa livestock pa rin tayo, PCC.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005923

How will dairy production expand

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005924

without funding for the herd build-up?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005925

Mr. Chair, ganun din yung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005926

sagot namin dun.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005927

Yung IDCA fund na

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005928

babalik sa ano.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005929

Basically, we'll be submitting a new

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005930

request for the new

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005931

GAA of the livestock sector.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005932

Oh, I see.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005933

Kung pwede, isama na rin tong tanong na to.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005934

Kasi inaasahan nga, di ba,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005935

nabigyan na natin yung ibang farmers

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005936

over the past few years,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005937

nag-herd build-up na of some sort,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005938

and the schools are already relying

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005939

on that supply of milk.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005940

So, they were a little bit agitated

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005941

to discover that

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005942

the proposed budget excludes

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005943

the 159 million

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005944

requested for the 5th year

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005945

na sana herd build-up.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005946

So, gusto sana namin,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005947

maipaliwanag kung paano ba

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005948

yung mga eskwelahan na umaasad yan?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005949

We'll include it in our submission, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005950

Ang buong livestock ko, bibigay namin yung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005951

restructured

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005952

proposal

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005953

within na binigay

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005954

sa aming fiscal space. Thank you.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005955

So, kailan kaya ma-restructure yan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005956

Mahabol ba yan bago

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005957

maipakailan?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005958

Actually, Mr. Chair, ready na kami lahat.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005959

We've submitted everything to

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005960

Congress, although

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005961

it was, doon kami na late eh,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005962

but dito sa Senate, mukhang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005963

tama-tama pa rin yung oras.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005964

And the House of Representatives are aware,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005965

DBM is aware, so

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005966

tulong-tulong,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005967

pag tulong-tulongan na lang, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005968

Mabuti naman at tama o

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005969

optimize silang lahat, kasi nga

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005970

sa ngayon, sabog-sabog eh, kalat-kalat

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005971

sa iba't-ibang ahensya.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005972

And siguro yung huli na lamang, yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005973

Philmec, why are the processing facilities

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005974

still lying idle?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005975

Right? Substantial funding.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005976

Core reports, only a 9.29%

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005977

fund utilization

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005978

for 2 billion

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005979

coconut shared processing.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005980

Eto na naman yung mahiwaga, taon-taon na lang to.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005981

Covering 2023

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005982

to 2025, only

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005983

5 of the projected

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005984

92 under 2025

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005985

were actually established

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005986

and operating.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005987

What were the equipment procurement,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005988

site preparation, construction,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005989

beneficiary,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005990

readiness? What were the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005991

problems? Ba't hindi na-synchronize?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005992

Kasi ang sama nito,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005993

9% lang.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005994

Mr. Chair, I'll ask

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005995

Philmec Director Alvin Dia to

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-005996

present.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-005997

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-005998

Madam Senator, as regard to the

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-005999

shared processing facilities po

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006000

na in-implement ng

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006001

Philmec, which is

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006002

yung provisions po

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006003

ng mga

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006004

post-harvest facilities.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006005

So, just to give you

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006006

some background on this.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006007

Noon po kasing 2022 to 2024, it was the DPWH who was implementing the erection ng warehouse.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006008

Then by that time, ang nagawa po nila in two years time was 29 facilities.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006009

At ang nangyari doon sa 29 facilities, ang natapos po roon ay 16.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006010

11 yung 16 yung natapos, 11 yung hindi natapos.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006011

Pero sa 16 facilities po walang mga building permits.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006012

Kaya hindi po namin malagyan ng mga facilities.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006013

Ngayon po, ngayong 2025 onwards, inilipad na po sa Philmec yung construction ng building.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006014

Kaya meron na po tayong 39 ngayon na ongoing construction.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006015

So yun po yung update.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006016

Pero kaya nga po.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006017

Hindi kami makabili ng mga facilities ng walang warehouses.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006018

Pero ina-update na po namin.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006019

So ilan ang functioning warehouses ngayon suma total?

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006020

Actually, ang functioning warehouses po ngayon nasa 16.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006021

Ha?

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006022

16 warehouses po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006023

16? Mas konti pa.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006024

Hindi po. Yung po yung natapos.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006025

Teka, 92 ang plano, di ba?

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006026

Opo.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006027

Tapos yung 16 lang ang nabuo.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006028

Yun po yung ginawa ng DPWH.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006029

From 2022 hanggang 2024.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006030

Akala ko nung 2025, nakapagpatay yun na kayo ng marami.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006031

39 po yung ongoing natin ngayon na construction.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006032

Ah, ongoing.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006033

Opo.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006034

So wala pang tapos doon.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006035

Meron na po tayong inaugurate na isa doon sa ginawa ng Philmec.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006036

Kasi wala pang 10% yung fund utilization. Patay tayo dyan.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006037

Yes po. We are admitting that, Madam Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006038

So meron kayong catch-up plan dyan? Puro barn ba yan? O saan ba yan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006039

Dati kasi barm ang pinag-uusapan. Eh ngayon, itong mga catch-up na to, saan saan yan?

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.

asr-006040

We will provide you, Mr. Chair, the complete catch-up and location of these specific projects.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006041

Sige. Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006042

Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006043

Just a few more questions.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006044

Dumating si Senator Aimee na alala ko tuloy.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006045

Doon sa issue nung seized Vietnam rights,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006046

we would like to clarify ano na ang status nitong dalawa yan actually, yung Limay-Bataan and Davao.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006047

And my understanding is the delivery dates based on the documentation were delayed both for Limay-Bataan and Davao.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006048

The SP6 specified a specific date that it should arrive.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006049

Pero lumampas na, both for Bataan and for Davao.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006050

And that's why, as I understand it, it was in violation of the permits.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006051

And therefore, kaya finlag at eventually, sumubok tumakas.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006052

According to the BOC, at least that was the information relayed.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006053

At na-kumpis ka, na-intercept.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006054

So that's question number one.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006055

Question number two, I mean update, is if the PPI was the consignee, how now do we proceed?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006056

Sino sa PPI ang lumabag?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006057

O pinilit? O sumunod? Meron ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006058

Kasi iba yung sabi nga ninyo, na-delay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006059

Dapat yan July, pero September na.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006060

So, are you, is there an internal investigation?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006061

In fairness to the Secretary, as you said publicly, you're the one who put a stop to the entry.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006062

And precisely because of these errors or non-compliance with the permits.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006063

And so how are we moving forward?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006064

Ito ang tinatanong din.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006065

And I'm sure tatanongin ito sa plenary.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006066

Go ahead, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006067

Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006068

Yung sa limay, umpisa ako sa limay.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006069

As far as we are concerned, from my review with our Bureau of Plant, our DAIE,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006070

wala silang nakikitang issue sa documents.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006071

Yung sinasabing tampering, binanggit ng isang broadcaster, wala kaming nakita.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006072

Meron din sinasabi na yung must-depart date, hindi na meet.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006073

But then the bill of lading issued by the shipping company,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006074

was August 31.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006075

At yung must-depart date, mas load or mas anong date is September 1.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006076

So, pasok din.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006077

So, it's a BOC matter now.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006078

So, in my opinion, it's BOC ngayon na mag-husga or mag-ahatol kung ano mangyayari sa shipment na ito.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006079

And this is a private company that imported the cargo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006080

And walang kinalaman dito ang Department.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006081

And the agriculture, except for issuance of an SPSIC.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006082

As far as the, ano naman, doon sa Davao, which I am being attacked.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006083

Before lang, sorry, just before Davao.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006084

I remember this in 2011, subik din yung pagpasok ng bigas.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006085

Na dapat transshipment lang.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006086

Yun ang sinasabi.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006087

Pero, hindi nga transshipment.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006088

Tsaka kung itatransship mo, ba't mo idadaan dito?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006089

So, may mga ganong problema nun.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006090

Kaya, parang nag-ano lang sa akin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006091

Is this a repeat?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006092

Iba yung dokumento ng BOC, iba yung dokumento ng DA.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006093

But, please allow us, submit some of the documents that you're mentioning about the entry.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006094

Kasi, yun nga, ang concern natin dito is, again,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006095

diba, medyo may concern doon sa documentation.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006096

At least, yun ang na-relay sa akin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006097

But, go ahead, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006098

Mr. Che, we will submit all the reports about that, Limay.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006099

As far as the vessel Tyson 2 naman, ano sa Davao.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006100

Ulitin ko lang, ako ho ang nagpa-cancel ng SPSIC.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006101

Ako ang nagpahuli ng barko.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006102

Ako rin ang isa sa nag-decide to cease the cargo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006103

Para malaman talaga.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006104

Ang katotohanan, along with Commissioner Ariel Anipa-Moceno.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006105

So, clearly, na nakikita sa social media, I am clearly under attack.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006106

For what reasons, I really don't know.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006107

But, I can only smell the hands of smugglers.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006108

Na tinira namin dati at nasa order of battle namin dito sa DA.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006109

At marami akong pinakancel na kumpanya nung particular smuggling group na to.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006110

So, I will even name the names.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006111

The name, not the name, but the so-called AKA of this group.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006112

It's a, tawag sa kanya, JOSOL group.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006113

Yung specific person na yan, I really do not know who they are.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006114

But, yan ang intel na nakukuha namin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006115

So, basically, malinaw sa akin that I must be doing something right to get this flak.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006116

And, twist, tinitwist pa yung katotohanan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006117

And, totoo lang, boss, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006118

Mr. Senator, may resibo ako.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006119

Andito lahat ng text ko to instruct BPI, instruct the Bureau of Fisheries, instruct DAIE.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006120

In all the details here, makikita nyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006121

Ito, cancel this SPSIC ASAP, September 9.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006122

Kakaalis pa lang ng vessel sa Vietnam on September 8.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006123

Sinabi ng tao, sinabi sa akin, may nagtanong sa social media,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006124

Bakit?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006125

Nasa India ako noon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006126

And, nag-react lang ako based on a tip from industry players mismo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006127

On September 18, meron akong text din dito,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006128

which tinatrack namin yung vessel.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006129

Tinatrack namin daily, sinasamalis yan eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006130

Sabi ko kay Ethos to,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006131

Bantayan, please tell Ethos and send DAA, wag i-allow.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006132

Wag i-allow i-unload.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006133

I heard they are planning to smuggle it.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006134

But, of course, I heard lang.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006135

I'm not sure if they are planning or not.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006136

Maraming kinausap dito, including Bureau of Customs.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006137

But, ang information ko, Bureau of Customs refused to dance.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006138

So, meaning, yung ating customs ay tinindigan na hindi sila papayag sa mga ganyan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006139

Andito ho, recibo ho yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006140

Then, meron pa ako ditong text, September 19 naman.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006141

To BIFAR Director.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006142

Please send BIFAR boat on this vessel to see if nag-unload.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006143

Then, on the same day, September 19,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006144

ang instruction ko na kay Director Salilig at USEC Truce,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006145

hulihin na ang vessel Tyson 2 at dalhin sa General Santos Fishport.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006146

Bigas laman nito na cancelled SPSIC.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006147

Hulihin na and makita naman natin kung puno pa or hindi na.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006148

Kasi alam natin ang load nito.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006149

So, tapos,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006150

sumagot si USEC Bayate sa akin na after a few minutes,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006151

10.36 to 11.20 AM,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006152

SEC apprehended na ng Navy ang vessel according to OIC BIFAR Director 12.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006153

Then, I have the pictures.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006154

Tinanong ko na saan na.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006155

I even sent a boat from my family's operations in General Santos to look for the vessel.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006156

And take pictures.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006157

Talagang hinanap namin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006158

So, kumpleto ho yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006159

So, kung ano man ang iniisip ng mga tao about,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006160

o yung mga tira sa akin,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006161

yung totoong, it's all lies.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006162

It's all fake news.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006163

Twisted to hit me and want to get me out of this.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006164

I will be submitting this to your office, Mr. Chair. May kopya kami ngayon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006165

For your review and siguro sa review ng ibang kasamahan natin dito.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006166

I just wanted to explain to clear the air, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006169

Yes, huling hirit na lang.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006170

Kasi nung una, sinabi yata ng BPI na i-o-auction.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006171

Pero sabi ni Secretary, ito sa media lang.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006172

Ang pagkabalita, sabi sa diaryo na sabi ni Secretary,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006173

huwag nang i-auction at baka mabalik lang sa mga smuggler.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006174

I-donate na lamang. Tama ba ito?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006175

Yung cease-trize sa DSWD para makatulong sa mga pamilya.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006176

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006177

Ang nag-suggest yata through media, no?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006178

I'm not sure kung talagang sinabi nila.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006179

Nakita ko lang sa media na sinasabi na BOC wants to auction it.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006180

Tama.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006181

Ang sagot ko naman kay Mr. Ted Filon is ayoko i-auction.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006182

It's either distractions, go back to sender,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006183

or ibigay sa DSWD para pamigay sa taong bayan ng libre.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006184

So ano na ang latest na nangyari?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006185

Ano na ang latest update sa bigas mismo?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006186

In our opinion kasi, ngayon kasi tinitignan namin mabuti yung mga files.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006187

May latest report ako, nandun din yata sa report na bibigay ko sa inyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006188

Kaya ako pinahuli yan is umalis yung vessel nung September 18 sa Gensan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006189

Akala ko tatakbo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006190

But then now, there is a document now that shows a report from the vessel owner to the vessel agent

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006191

that says that at 8.30 am on September 18,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006192

the postcard vessel instructed na pumunta ang vessel to Gensan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006193

Andito rin iyon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006194

It's an email.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006195

So ito we will supply to you.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006196

Pakibigay na rin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006197

So ibig sabihin, medyo may good faith sila.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006198

Kasi natatrack naman yung vessel eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006199

It's an international tracking eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006200

Tapos meron naman nagpapuntang Gensan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006201

May humuli sa Gensan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006202

But it doesn't mean na may foul play.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006203

Kung yung cargo as declared in the SPIC is the same,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006204

it means walang kalokohan eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006205

So maybe there is grounds for good faith.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006206

But in case may kalokohan ngayon,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006207

ang pinakamaganda i-seize yan at i-distribute sa taong bayan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006208

Siguro the question is, bakit PPI ang consignee?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006209

So yun yung...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006210

Ang masagot ko naman, Mr. Chair, dyan is

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006211

from my investigation, although PPI is independent,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006212

I do not run PPI on a day-to-day basis,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006213

nor do I make pakialam in their operations

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006214

because I'm just an ex-officio nga.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006215

But of course, nag-inimbestigahan ko rin sila.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006216

Imagine, ako na nga yung ex-officio ng PPI.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006217

Alam ko na PPI yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006218

Alam ko PPI din yung consignee.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006219

Ako pa rin ang pahinto.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006220

So, is doing a good thing bad? It is not.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006221

I did the right thing. Diba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006222

Because PPI, under explanation of PPI,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006223

that is a cancelled contract already.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006224

Because that shipment should have left Vietnam by July 31.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006225

But hindi nga naka-no. So it was never consummated.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006226

Nor a single centavo was paid for the shipment.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006227

So it is not...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006228

Although it had a valid SPSIC, which I had cancelled.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006229

Tingin ko yung shipper, for whatever reason,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006230

but the shipper naman kasi is a very big international conglomerate eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006231

It's very big. Parang blue chip company yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006232

Hindi naman gagawa ng kalokohan eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006233

So...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006234

Maybe it was a mistake

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006235

na may valid SPSI.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006236

She nipped out pa rin nila.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006237

But as far as the cargo is concerned,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006238

from my investigation,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006239

PPI doesn't own the cargo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006240

Pwede naman may loko-loko

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006241

sa isang bansa na padalahan ako

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006242

ng cargo dito.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006243

Lagay pangalan hon ninyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006244

Pero...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006245

In other words, you're looking at

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006246

a smuggler who decided

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006247

to use PPI as cover

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006248

to bring in the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006249

PPI. Kasi naka-sako na

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006250

PPI. Kasi oo, yung consignee

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006251

maliwanag po na PPI. Consignee is

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006252

PPI and it was packed in PPI

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006253

sacks.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006254

So, yun.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006255

Well, I hope you

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006256

identify

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006257

if any,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006258

sino ang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006259

pumayag sa PPI kung mayroon man

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006260

na makipag-usap

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006261

dito at

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006262

nakumbinsi ito. I don't know.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006263

I don't know.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006264

But

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006265

yun ang concern natin dito.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006266

Kasi in the end,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006267

the value is about

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006268

400 million dollars.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006269

400 million pesos.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006270

Sorry. About

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006271

$460

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006272

per metric ton or something like that.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006273

Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006274

I believe

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006275

the DA and myself,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006276

including the ones involved

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006277

in DA, are willing to go to be subject

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006278

to

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006279

an inquiry

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006280

by your choice,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006281

the Senate's choice or whoever.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006282

Isama na nyo yung PPI

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006283

para ma-final matapos na to

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006284

at mahusgahan na kung kami may kasalanan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006285

may kasalanan kami. Kung wala kami kasalanan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006286

masabi na para matama at matigil na to.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006287

Dahil

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006288

as far as I'm concerned, we did the right

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006289

thing and

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006290

kung ganito ang treatment sa akin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006291

at tira sa akin for doing the right thing,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006292

well, ganun talaga ang buhay.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006293

But then,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006294

lalaban-lalaban kami

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006295

kung anong tama, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006296

Sir Kiko, I

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006297

understand you fully. I went through

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006298

a similar experience.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006299

I was, my

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006300

NFA administrator was set up

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006301

and was

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006302

fired. Oh no, and resigned.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006303

He was accused of extortion.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006304

And he was a

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006305

retired PMA

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006306

graduate,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006307

class of,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006308

I forget now which class,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006309

68, 69.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006310

Traders accused him of extortion.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006311

I heard

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006312

the voice,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006313

supposedly his voice.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006314

His English

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006315

is impeccable and the voice

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006316

that I heard was someone

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006317

who was not him.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006318

But

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006319

I asked him to stay on.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006320

I said,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006321

I'm going to back you up all the way.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006322

I submitted a letter of resignation

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006323

to President Aquino.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006324

I told President Aquino,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006325

I am resigning,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006326

I'm submitting my

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006327

resignation letter because

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006328

I will defend my

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006329

NFA administrator. And I don't

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006330

want you to think, sir, that I'm defending him

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006331

because I'm interested in the position.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006332

So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006333

but unfortunately,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006334

because of the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006335

setup,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006336

he resigned. He said,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006337

I don't need this.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006338

So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006339

and some of the old hands in NFA

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006340

and some of the old hands in the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006341

in the DA know this.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006342

He was,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006343

he didn't.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006344

So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006345

what you're going through,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006346

I went through.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006347

And for what?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006348

Because we were going after smugglers

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006349

and traders who were

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006350

messing up our rice supply.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006351

We went after them.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006352

So, I can understand where you're coming from.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006353

But, of course,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006354

as you said, if there's going to be

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006355

an investigation, we'd like to get the side of

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006356

PPI,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006357

PPI, yeah, planters products

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006358

so that they can

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006359

clarify this.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006360

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just like to reiterate my

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006361

request.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006362

Kanina sumagot si

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006363

Secretary Kiko na tutulungan tayo kunin

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006364

yung 10-year record

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006365

na,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006366

ng rice importations ng PPI.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006367

Alam ko na pinaninindigan nila na private corporations sila.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006368

At hirap na hirap ako kumuha ng papeles

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006369

kinanay dati kay RAM.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006370

Kaya patulong na lang po.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006371

Yes, ma'am.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006372

Mr. Chair, kami mismo,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006373

we have the records sa BPI, Bureau of Plants.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006374

So, we bigay naman sa inyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006375

And from what I understand, they only started

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006376

importation two years ago, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006377

That seems clear.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006378

Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006379

Sige.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006380

Thank you for the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006381

clarification. And we have received

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006382

the documents

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006383

that you were pointing to earlier.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006384

Just one,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006385

maybe one last question

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006386

on my end.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006387

Would you have the data on

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006388

farmers' incomes?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006389

What is the income

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006390

of the farmer

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006391

today?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006392

On average, across the board?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006393

I recall,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006394

at some point, it was about ₱14,000.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006395

₱11,000?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006396

A month?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006397

...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006398

A month?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006399

Yeah, ₱14,000 a month across the board.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006400

What is it now?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006401

Unfortunately, we don't have the data as of now.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006402

But we...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006403

Sandali, baka meron pala.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006404

And I think something of this...

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006405

According to the data ng PIDs at saka ng PSA,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006406

somewhere between 13 and 15 pa rin eh.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006407

Although, may sinasabi sa World Bank,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006408

mabasa ko yun eh.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006409

Maski sa PRDP, dun sa report nila,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006410

that there's been a boosting of real income

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006411

by 20 to 26 percent.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006412

Pero dun sa PIDs,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006413

ganun pa rin eh, yung 14.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006414

14, 6, 5, 6.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006415

14, 6, 5, 6.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006416

14, 605 a month.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006417

And this is...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006418

Of course, it varies, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006419

Depending on the subsector.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006420

Mas mababa ata sa coconut,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006421

mas mataas ang rice,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006422

pinakamataas ata ang high value crops.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006423

But anyway...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006424

Bakit dun sa PRDP mas mataas?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006425

Mas mataas.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006426

...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006427

...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006428

And I think dapat pag-aralan ng DA, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006429

Because in other countries,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006430

they have a...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006431

That's a benchmark eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006432

Mr. Chair?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006433

Yes, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006434

We have the data pala.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006435

There's a 6.5 percent average yearly increase

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006436

in the daily wages of agricultural workers

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006437

from 2020 to 2024.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006438

But ang average daily basic pay

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006439

is 387.90 pesos.

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006440

So for around...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006441

11,300 plus lang yun eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006442

For fishing and aquaculture,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006443

mas mataas ng konti.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006444

412.27.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006445

So almost 12,000.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006446

Yun.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006447

As of April 2026.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006448

So, I think,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006449

sabi naman ang DepDev,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006450

you need around 13,000, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006451

Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006452

As a minimum.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006453

Minimum.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006454

13?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006455

Ang baba lang.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006456

13,000 a month as minimum

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006457

in terms of the ability to

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006458

afford the most basic needs, no?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006459

Yeah.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006460

It used to be, what?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006461

...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006462

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006463

Mas ng konti, pero mababa pa rin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006464

...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006465

...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006466

Which is to say,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006467

that the farmers are still,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006468

you know, are still...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006469

Well, the data shows it, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006470

27 percent poverty levels

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006471

in the agriculture.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006472

Mr. Chair, that's why

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006473

the poverty incidence is still 27 percent.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006474

Pero ang differential lang ngayon

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006475

and before,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006476

even with PSA accounts,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006477

mas maraming ngayon

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006478

farm workers

Source

DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006479

and fisher folks.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006480

Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006481

Yes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006482

Okay, so that's important

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006483

because in the end,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006484

I think all interventions

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006485

should have

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006486

a clear-cut benchmark

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006487

of what are we working on, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006488

Sabi ko nga,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006489

anong sa'y sayon,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006490

anong 200 plus billion na budget ng agri

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006491

kung year-on-year,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006492

di naman,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006493

mahirap pa rin ng farmer.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006494

And I said this with NIA,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006495

sabi ko sa budget hearing ng NIA,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006496

dapat lahat tayo,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006497

e tinututukan natin

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006498

na kumikita ang farmer.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006499

Dahil pagka wala ng farmer,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006500

wala na rin tayong lahat trabaho rito

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006501

sa DA.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006502

Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006503

Kung baga,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006504

pag-ising natin sa umaga,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006505

pag-tulog natin sa gabi,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006506

e dapat farmers,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006507

farmers,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006508

welfare,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006509

income,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006510

di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006511

Viability,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006512

profitability,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006513

ang tinutuhog natin

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006514

o tinatahak natin

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006515

at isinusulong natin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006516

Kasi nga,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006517

sa totoo lang,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006518

pag hindi na nagsasaka

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006519

ang mga magsasaka,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006520

lahat tayo dito,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006521

wala nang trabaho.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006522

Di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006523

Siguro ako meron pa dahil,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006524

pero wala na akong chairmanship

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006525

ng Agriculture Committee

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006526

dahil wala nang mga magsasaka.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006527

So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006528

I think that should be fundamental.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006529

Benchmarking incomes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006530

Because precisely,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006531

we want the next generation

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006532

of Filipinos

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006533

to consider farming.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006534

And the only way

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006535

they will consider it

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006536

and not consider

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006537

another career

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006538

is because it pays.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006539

Di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006540

It addresses

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006541

the bottom line

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006542

of day-to-day sustenance.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006543

Eh kung ganun,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006544

di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006545

Bakit mag-iisip

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006546

mag-farming

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006547

ang ating mga kabataan

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006548

kung meron ng

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006549

vow of poverty pala?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006550

Eh mag-call center na lang ako

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006551

o mag-ibang bansa ako

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006552

or whatever.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006553

So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006554

and they keep saying,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006555

how do you make farming sexy?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006556

You provide for the bottom line.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006557

Make it,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006558

make it pay.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006559

Di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006560

Dapat,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006561

dapat maganda

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006562

ang sinasahod

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006563

o kaya kinikita

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006564

para maging sexy.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006565

There's no other way.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006566

Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006567

Yes, sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006568

Yes, ma'am.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006569

I just like to

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006570

to

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006571

extend

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006572

my appreciation

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006573

for your observation

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006574

and intervention

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006575

regarding

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006576

farmers' income.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006577

I have disputed

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006578

for a long, long time

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006579

the continued

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006580

emphasis

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006581

on production numbers,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006582

the projection

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006583

on number of workshops

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006584

and training,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006585

number of beneficiaries,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006586

number of seeds distributed,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006587

number of mechanical dryers.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006588

Hindi po yun ang target,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006589

ang ending target po,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006590

dapat yung farmers' income,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006591

how much money is actually

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006592

in the pockets of farmers.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006593

Kung yun ang tutumbukin natin,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006594

makakasabi tayo

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006595

na nagtagumpay ang DA.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006596

Hanggat hindi na

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006597

dodoble yan

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006598

o triple pa

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006599

kasi yun na nga

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006600

ang sinasabing ngayon,

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006601

wala tayong nagawa.

Source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-006602

Yun lang po.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006603

Well, if I may add na rin,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006604

naalala ko

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006605

and

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006606

the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006607

Philippine Coconut Authority

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006608

bureaucracy

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006609

employees,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006610

staff,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006611

or here,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006612

I said this,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006613

the coconut farmers

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006614

then,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006615

and I think it still

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006616

holds true today,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006617

are the poorest

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006618

of all the farmers.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006619

The coconut farmers.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006620

And I said this,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006621

what's

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006622

because the programs

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006623

of the PCC,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006624

they are still

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006625

the programs now,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006626

fertilization.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006627

Why?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006628

Because if you fertilize

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006629

after two years,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006630

you will double the yield.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006631

Di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006632

So bakit may importante

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006633

yung double yield?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006634

Di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006635

Mahalaga yun.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006636

Poorest farmers kasi sila.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006637

You want to double their yield.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006638

Replanting.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006639

Because,

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006640

ilang percent na ba

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006641

ng ating coconut

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006642

senile?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006643

Di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006644

Coconut trees.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006645

Is it still

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006646

70%?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006647

70%?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006648

So senile.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006649

Yun ang tawag dun.

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006650

Di ba?

Source

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006651

So we need to replant.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006652

Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006653

And then,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006654

and then you need

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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to intercrop.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006656

Bakit?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006657

Kasi nga,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006658

dagdag kita,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006659

the coconut

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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is a social plant.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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It loves to have

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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other plants around it

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006663

for yields to improve.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006664

And so,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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intercropping,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006666

fertilization,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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replanting.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006668

Yun yung tatlong

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006669

major interventions

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006670

ng PCA.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006671

Tinanong ko sila.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006672

So after all those

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006673

interventions,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006674

ano nang magiging

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006675

income ng farmer?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006676

Times two,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006677

Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006678

Well, only for,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006679

mas mataas dapat.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006680

Pero hindi nila masagot.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006681

So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006682

since all your

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006683

interventions are

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006684

meant to increase

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006685

the income of your

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006686

coconut farmer

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006687

because he is

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006688

the poorest farmer,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006689

why don't we know

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006690

what the income

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006691

will be after

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006692

the targeted incomes

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006693

will be after

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006694

your interventions?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006695

And I think

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006696

that's a paradigm

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006697

shift that requires

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006698

everyone in the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006699

bureaucracy of the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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department to

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006701

think about

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006702

as you do your

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006703

interventions.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006704

Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006705

Ano ang kinikita ngayon?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006706

Ano ang kikitain

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006707

pagkatapos ng interventions?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006708

And I remember

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006709

when we had to do

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006710

our computations,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006711

it was about

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006712

kikita na ng about

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006713

250,000 a year.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006714

Tama ba yun?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006715

Nga ganon.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006716

Do-doble.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006717

Kasi noon, 15,000.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006718

Yes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006719

So I hope,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006720

you know,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006721

we will end with this note.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006722

Let's put together

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006723

that intervention

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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that we now address

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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across the country.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006726

So subsectors,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006727

di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006728

The benchmark.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006729

Benchmarking of incomes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006730

When I was in China in 2012,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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their historical data is,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006732

in 1979, the farmer's income was 179 yuan,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006733

or 180 yuan a month.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006734

Now, it's 7,000 yuan a month.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006735

So it was pretty clear that was 2012.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006736

Vietnam, when I spoke with the Ministry of Agriculture of Vietnam

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006737

during the, this was also when I was Food Security Secretary,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006738

so that was 15 years ago,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006739

they had targets.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006740

The per capita income of our farmers was $500 per capita.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006741

It is now $900 in the next 10 years.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006742

It will be $2,000 per capita.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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So something like that.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006744

So benchmark na naman ang income.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006745

And that should be, I think, something that before you,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006746

before you leave the bureaucracy,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006747

or if you're reappointed by the next administration,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006748

I hope,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006749

Sec. Kiko, you can do that.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006750

Come up with the benchmarking of incomes across subsectors

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006751

so that we know where we are

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006752

and we know where we want to go

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006753

with respect to farmers' income

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006754

and yung kita nila and yung income nila.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006755

Mr. Chair?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006756

Thank you for your insights and your guidance

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006757

and we will proceed accordingly

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006758

and follow your lead.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006759

Maganda ho yun.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006760

Honestly, hindi ko masyadong tugunan ng pansin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.

asr-006761

but we will get you on to it.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006762

Thank you very much.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006763

Okay, before we wrap up,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006764

just for the record,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006765

please comply with all the requirements of the DBM

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006766

for your submissions.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006767

So that we can...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006768

So that the funds can be released for this year.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006769

And subject to the submission of all the requested documents

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006770

of our members of the committee in the Senate,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006771

the budget of the DA, OSEC,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006772

together with the attached agencies and corporations,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006773

again, subject to the submissions as requested,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006774

is deemed submitted for consideration of the plenary.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006775

Okay, thank you, Secretary Kiko and the DA family.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006776

The hearing of Subcommittee G is hereby suspended.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-006777

Maraming salamat. Magandang hapon.