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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The hearing of the Committee on Finance, Finance Subcommittee G, is hereby called to order.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Our hearing today is the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Agriculture, its attached agencies and corporations. We would like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Erwin Tulfo. And may we now call on our Committee Secretary, Attorney Philip Lina, to acknowledge and place on record our resource persons for today.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You have the floor, Attorney Lina.

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Committee Secretary: Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Senator Tulfo. In attendance in this budget briefing of the Department of Agriculture are the following: Secretary Francisco Tiu Laurel Jr.; Attorney Asis G. Perez, Undersecretary for Policy Planning and Regulations; Engineer Roger V. Navarro, Undersecretary for Operations and Agri-Fisheries Mechanization.

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Committee Secretary: Nora C. Oliveros, Undersecretary for Finance; Carlos C. Carrag, Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement; Engineer Christopher V. Morales, Undersecretary for Rice Industry Development.

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad Caballero, Undersecretary for High Value Crops; Constante J. Palabrica, Undersecretary for Livestock.

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Committee Secretary: Ari A. Perez, Undersecretary for Agro-Marine Industrial Systems.

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Committee Secretary: Telma C. Tolentino, Assistant Secretary for Finance,

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Committee Secretary: Daniel Alfonso N. Aitaydi, Assistant Secretary for Logistics,

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Committee Secretary: Atty. Genevieve E. Villicaria-Guivara,

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Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary for Agribusiness, Marketing and Consumer Affairs,

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Committee Secretary: and for Legislative Affairs and DLLO,

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Committee Secretary: Atty. Joycel R. Panlilio, Assistant Secretary for High-Value Crops,

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Committee Secretary: and Saqib Saka and Intellectual Property Rights.

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Committee Secretary: From the Bureaus, Elisir S. Salilig,

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Committee Secretary: Director, Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources.

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Committee Secretary: From the Department of Budget and Management,

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Committee Secretary: Gemma G. Ilagan, Director for,

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Committee Secretary: from the Commission on Audit,

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Committee Secretary: Viuli Q. Molina,

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Committee Secretary: Lorelay M. Placido,

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Committee Secretary: and Velvet Chiqui M. Manalo,

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Committee Secretary: and other invited guests,

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Committee Secretary: Director Lourdes Aganon,

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Committee Secretary: the DBM Director for Organization,

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Committee Secretary: Position Classification and Compensation Bureau,

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Committee Secretary: Helen Holgado, also from the same service,

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Committee Secretary: Timothy Solomon, People's Budget Coalition.

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Committee Secretary: That's all for now, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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Committee Secretary: Thank you.

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Committee Secretary: Mr. Ken Abante, from the People's Budget Coalition.

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Committee Secretary: Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you very much, Atty. Phillip, our Comsec.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Magandang umaga sa kanilang lahat.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang warning ng pag-asa na posibleng magpatuloy hanggang first half ng 2027

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang napakalakas na El Niño.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tinataya naman ng DA na maaaring mabawasa,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng mga 700,000 metric tons ang palay production sa second half ng taon

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil sa strong El Nino at iba pang weather-related shocks.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Banta rin ang matinding init at water shortage sa mga livestock, fishpond, at fisheries.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dahil sa mga babalang ito, kailangang paglaanan ng karampatang budget ang irigasyon,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: imbakan ng tubig, gayon din ang paglalaan para sa agarang tulong sa ating mga magsasaka at mangingisda

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na ngayon pa lamang ay pinsala na ang inaabot o nararamdaman o nararanasan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: By our calculation, ang pagkawala ng 700,000 metric tons

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng palay ay sapat para sa taonang pangangailangan sa bigas ng tinatayang 3.6 million na mga kababayan natin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Isang mahalagang hakbang para sa buong bansa ang pag-aproba sa P171.3 billion na inilalaan ng Department of Agriculture for 2027.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang national budget na ito ang gagamitin para tuloy.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na makapagtanim at makapagpangisda ang ating mga magsasaka at mangingisda

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para merong sapat na supply ang ating mga pamilyan at makakayanan ng pamilyang Pilipino ang kanilang susunod na kakainin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Isipin natin itong budget na parang paghahanda sa isang malaking salu-salu sa hapagkainan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At ang iba't ibang ahensya ng DA,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang ating mga kusinero at bawat isa ay may mahalagang tungkulin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bigas, gulay, livestock, isda, storage, distribution.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kailangan tiyakin ng DA na iisa ang sinusunod na plano ng lahat.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi problema ang maraming kusinero, problema kapag walang koordinasyon.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kulang-kulang ang mga sangkap at ikanga pagtulong.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: O pagdating ng damo, napatay na ang kabayo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yan ang hamon para kay Secretary ka-tukayo, Kiko Laurel.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The urgency is already measurable.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 6.87 billion pesos in drought losses.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Wala pa yung pinaka-impact ng Super El Nino as of September 26.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yet, as of October 6, assistance medyo nagkukulang.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 2.53 million ang natulungan sa target beneficiaries na 11.2 million.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang tanong din, hindi ba dapat dahil limang regyon na ang tinatamaan ng El Nino

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: base sa datos ng DA, hindi ba dapat magdeklara na ng National State of Calamity

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang ating national government?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Para magkaroon na ng dagdag na suporta at pondo dahil nga narito na ang El Nino.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If I recall correctly, El Nino is already damaging crops and livelihoods in Region 2,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Region 5, CALABARZON,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: SOCCSKSARGEN, Region 2, and one more, and Region 5.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 of 13 regions.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I believe the Executive Department should seriously consider a State of Calamity Declaration

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that we can better address the challenge.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the Super El Nino.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dapat maging sentro ng 2027 budget ang tubig at irigasyon.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero tatalakayin pa rin natin ang iba pang mga issue ng Departamento.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung underutilized funds in the 2026 budget, agriculture smuggling,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: agri-impact ng tuloy-tuloy pa rin gulo sa gitnang silangan, ang Iran-US-Israel war,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang taripa sa ating...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pork imports, mga farm-to-market roads, yung problema sa delay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa pag-implementa ng food hubs, among others.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pakinggan po natin ang presentasyon.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Secretary Kiko, for your presence and your leadership in the Department of Agriculture.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We are ready to hear your presentation.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But before that, we give the floor to Senator Erwin Tulfo for his opening statement.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ah, mahal na Chairman, Senator Kiko Pangilinan, si Agriculture Secretary Kiko Laurel, Jr.,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: mga kasamahan sa pamahalaan, mga kababayan, magandang umaga po sa ating lahat.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ngayong araw, ating tatalakay ng panukalang budget ng Department of Agriculture

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: at ng mga attached agencies and corporations nito para sa taong 2027.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Agrikultura po ay isa sa pinakamahalagang sektor ng ating ekonomiya.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Dito, nakasalalay po ang ating pagkain, kabuhayan, ng milyong-milyong magsisakat,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: mangingisda, at sa presyo ng pagkain sa hapag ng bawat Pilipinong pamilya.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Under the 2027 NEP, the DA family has proposed total budget of around 198.4 billion pesos,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: composed approximately of 196.9 billion pesos in new appropriations

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: and 1.5 billion pesos in automatic appropriations.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Under House Bill No. 108.58,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: itinaas po ito sa 210 billion pesos with 208.5 billion in new appropriations.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sa pagginig po nating umaga, nais nating malinawan sa ilang mahalagang usapin.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Una, ang agricultural smuggling.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Noong nakarang taon, nasaksihan natin ang ating mga hearings sa pangunguna nga po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ng ating chairman, Sen. Kiko Pangilinan,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kung paano po nagturuan ng DA, Bureau of Customs, at ilang law enforcement agencies.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kung sino ang pananagutan sa paghawak, pag-iingat, at pag-dispose o pagsira

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ng mga nakumpiskang smuggled agricultural products.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Nalinaw na po ba kung saan nagsisimula at nagtatapos ang mandato ng bawat ahensya?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: May malinaw na ba ang chain of custody at accountability upang hindi na maulit pang muli ang ganitong kalituhan?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ikalawa, ang karapatan po ng ating maliliit na mangingisda.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Naging malaking usapin din po sa 2023 decision ng RTC Malabon sa kaso ng Mercedar Fishing Corporation

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: na may malaking implikasyon sa pagpasok ng commercial fishing vessels sa 15-kilometer municipal waters.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Isa sa mga nakitang problema rito ay ang procedural lapses ng BIFAR.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kagagaling ko lamang po sa Mimaropa kahapon, sa Marinduque, Romblon, Mindoro, at Palacios.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Inawan, iisa po ang sigaw ng mga magsasaka o mangingisda.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Wala na pong nakukuhang isda dahil kinuha na po ng malaking kumpanyang ito ang kanilang dapat sana ihuli.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: They are being forced to go out.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Milya-milya po ang layo para lamang makakuha ng isda.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Samantalang, ang mga fishing companies, ito, corporation na ito, ay hindi na kailangan lumayo pa

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: para ikang mangisda at makakuha ng maraming isda.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ang tanong natin, ano ang ginagawa ng BIFAR upang maitama ang mga pagkukulang at maprotektahan ang kabuhayan ng mga maliliit nating mangingisda?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ay katlo, rice production.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Tayo ay isang agricultural country.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Dito po matatagpuan ang International Rice Research Institute.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ngunit nananatili tayong number one importer ng bigas sa buong mundo.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: During Marshall Law po, tayo po ay exporter.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ngayon, tayo na po ang importer.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Hindi ba't malaking kabalintunaan ito?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: May lupa tayo, may mga magsasaka, may teknolohiya at mga eksperto.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ngunit, bakit hindi pa rin natin matugunan ang sarili nating pangangailangan sa bigas?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kailangan pa natin, ikanga, humingi ng tulong at kumuha sa ibang bansa.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ano ang konkretong plano po ng DEA umang mapataas ang lokal na produksyon at mabawasan ang ating pagdidepende sa importasyon?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ikaapat, ang kalagayan po ng ating mga magsasaka, marami pong lumalapit sa aming tanggapan na nagre-reklamo sa napakamahal na presyo ng abono at napakamababang farmgate price ng palay.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Habang hirap na hirap kumita ang ating magsasaka, may mga middlemen at negosyanteng nagpapatong ng napakalaking tubo bago makarating ang produkto sa ating mga mamimili.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Dalawang beses na talo ang Pilipino.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Lugi na nga po ang magsasaka natin, mahal pa ang binibili ng consumer.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ano ang ginagawa po ng ating ahensya upang mapababa ang production cost?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Matiyak ang makatarungang presyuhan sa supply chain.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: At ang ikalamang problema, ang paghahanda sa napipintong matinding El Niño sa susunod na taon.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Hindi natin kailangang antayin matuyo ang ating mga sakahan, masira ang mga pananim.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Tumaas ang presyo ng pagkain bago tayo kumilos.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: May sapat na ba tayong plano para sa irigasyon at patubig?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Nakapaghanda na ba tayo ng drought-resistant crops, mga binhi at iba pang suporta para sa ating mga magsasaka?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Paano natin titiyaking hindi mauwi sa kakulangan ng pagkain ang matinding tagtuyo?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sa ating mga kaibigan sa DA, nais ko pong idein na huwag sana natin gawing palaging dahilan ng kakulangan sa budget.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kung bakit hindi natin nagagampana ng ating mga tungkulin.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Taon-taon po, suportado po kayo ng ikang institusyon na ito.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Bilyong-bilyong piso po ang inilalaan ng pamahalaan sa sektor po ng agrikultura.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Karapatan din po ng taong bayan na malaman kung saan napupunta ang pondong ito, paano ito ginagastos at ano ang kongkretong resulta.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Hindi po sapat na mataas lang ang utilization, obligation at disbursement rates.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ang mahalagang tanong ngayon ay may napapala ba ang ating mga magsasaka, mangingisda at mamimili?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ito po ay isang hamon sa aking kaibigan, si Sekretary Kiko Laurel Jr.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sa madaling salita na is natin makita, hindi lamang ang mga programa at pangako, kundi ang mga resulta at malinaw na pananagutan.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Patunay po natin o patunayan po natin sa ating mga kababayan na ang bawat piso ang inilalaan sa agrikultura ay nagagamit ng tama,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: fordoktibo at may buong transparency at accountability. Maraming salamat po, Ginong Chairman.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maraming salamat, Senator Erwin Tulfo. We now give the floor to Sekretary Kiko Laurel. Do you have an opening statement? Go ahead, Sek Kiko, you have the floor.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Honorable Chairman, distinguished members of the Senate Committee on Finance, colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, good morning.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Today we seek your support for the Department of Agriculture's proposed 2027 Bill.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At the time when our farmers and fisherfolk face a perfect storm, a looming super El Nino, worsening climate risks, and rising costs of fuel fertilizers and vital inputs, pressures compounded by geopolitical shocks beyond our control.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: The Department of Agriculture cannot control the weather or the price of oil halfway around the world, which also affects the price of fertilizers.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But we can decide on how prepared our farmers are.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And we must. We cannot demand cheap food while leaving farmers struggling to afford to produce it.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nor can we expect our fisherfolks to keep feeding the nation if doing so means their families remain hungry for a better life.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Affordable food begins with viable farms. Food security begins with secure livelihoods.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Our proposed budget is designed to turn these principles into action.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We will continue raising productivity through quality seeds, better inputs and modern technologies, expand farm-to-market roads, cold chain systems, and post-harvest facilities,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and strengthen links between producers and markets so farmers and fisherfolks earn more from what they produce.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We will also invest in climate resilience, disaster preparedness, and biosecurity.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Because every harvest lost to drought, every fish catch spoiled in transit,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: every crop destroyed by disease is not merely an agricultural setback, it is food lost, income lost, and opportunity lost.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Every peso invested wisely in agriculture can help deliver more than food.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It can mean more stable prices, stronger rural economies, better paying livelihoods, and greater dignity for millions of Filipinos.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But public investment must come with public accountability.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Government assistance must reach small farmers, fisherfolks, and agrarian communities.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For whom it is intended.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Every program must be measured not simply by how much it spends, but by what it delivers.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Higher productivity, higher net incomes, fewer post-harvest losses, and food that remains safe and affordable.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In a moment, Undersecretary Aziz Perez will present the details of our proposed budget and investments that will help us meet these goals.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But beyond the figures lies a fundamental choice.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Whether we will continue asking our food producers to do more,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or give them the tools, infrastructure, and protection they need to thrive.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Honorable Senators,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: A nation cannot eat budget figures, but with the right investments,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: those figures can help put food on every table and a better future within every farmer's reach.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: On behalf of the Department of Agriculture, I respectfully seek the Senate's support for our proposed 2027 budget.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Together, we are committed to a culture that not only feeds the country,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but also provides a more sustainable future.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: A future that will be more productive and a better life for the people who feed us.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you very much.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you Mr. Chairman and good morning to everybody.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you very much, Secretary Kiko Laurel.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before we get on with the presentation by Usec Aziz Perez,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we place on record and acknowledge the presence of our former Senate President, currently Senate President Pro Temp, Senator Tito Soto.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Usec Aziz, with your presentation of the Department's 2027 proposed budget.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Go ahead.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Good morning, Mr. Chair and to the honorable members of this committee.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: It is an honor to present the Department's Agriculture FYI, FY2027 National Expenditure Program.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Before that, I would like to provide the outline of this presentation.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before you proceed, we'd like to acknowledge the presence of our Senate President,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator Win Gatchalian and Senate President Gatchalian.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Good morning.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: In this outline, before we dive into the details of the National Expenditure Program,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: we would like to provide a brief snapshot of the current situation in agriculture and fisheries sector.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This will provide a broader context of our programs and investments under the NEP.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: After this overview, we will walk through the details of the NEP.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Of the 2.3 trillion GDP in 2025, agriculture and fisheries sector generated around 1.83 trillion, contributing around 7.9% to the overall economy.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: The agriculture and fisheries share has steadily declined from 10.1% in 2020 despite remarkable resilience during the pandemic.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This highlights the need to accelerate growth and strengthen the sector's contribution to the economy.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: In terms of stakeholders, we have 10.44 million registered individuals in our SPSA.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This is broadly consistent with the PSA estimate of 10 million people engaged in agriculture and fisheries,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: or an equivalence of about one for every five workers.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Our registry will provide a clearer picture as shown in the table.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Now, poverty among the farmers and fisher folks has declined substantially over the past two decades.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Yet, it remains significantly higher than the national average.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: In 2023, poverty incidence stood at 27% for our farmers and 27.4% for our fisher folks, compared with 15.5% nationwide.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This indicates that while we have made progress,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: this has yet to be fully translated into improved livelihoods on those sectors who depend on agriculture.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Now, looking deeper into this figure,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: the 7.9% reflects only the value of production at the farm gate,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: but not the much greater value generated when agricultural products are processed, transported, and sold to the market.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Consider this.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: There will be no 55 kilogram of rice in Metro Manila without the palay,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: brought at 19 pesos from the farmers.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: There will be no 366 peso per kilogram liempo if there is no pork produced at 170 pesos per kilogram.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: There will be no 206 per kilogram chicken without broiler.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: The chicken produced at 119 peso per kilogram.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: These figures highlight the important question.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Are we adequately recognizing the contribution of our farmers and fisher folks to the value generated across the economy?

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We saw the sector importance during the 2020 pandemic when its share in GDP rose to 10.1%, largely because other sectors contracted more sharply.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: When we look at this sector, share in GDP,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: therefore, there is a risk at overlooking agriculture and fisheries in the economic priorities.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: It bears to emphasize that agriculture is the foundational industry.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This is a bedrock upon which many other industries and economic activities depend.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Investing in agriculture, therefore, is not merely investing in the farmers and the fisherfolk.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: It is investing in the strengths, resiliency, and growth in the Philippine economy.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: As we have seen so far, agriculture and fisheries sector creates value,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: yet food insecurity and poverty and vulnerability

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: yet food insecurity and poverty and vulnerability exist among the sector.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: These persistent challenges can be faced to fundamental bottlenecks

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: across the agriculture and fisheries value chain,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: beginning at the resource level where agricultural land is becoming increasingly fragmented,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: with an average size failing from 3.59 hectares to just 0.82 hectares.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This suggests that the only way to move forward is to cluster these farms into economic enterprise

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: to allow what we call the economies of scale.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: At the production level, high input costs and low mechanization continue to constrain productivity,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: with major commodities falling short of their 2025 PDP.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: At the post-harvest stage, we continue to lose significant share of what we produce.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Losses reach 14.5% for rice, 31.6% for onion, and 26.5% for mangoes, as an example.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This shows that the challenge is not only how to produce more, but to prevent losses and preserve them.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We need to increase the value of production all the way to the market.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Finally, logistics and market access remain constrained by inadequate infrastructure and weak transport system.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: An estimated 55,050 km gap in farm-to-market access

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: and 68,433-pallet [unclear] deficit in cold storage capacity

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: to continue to

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: raise transport costs, increase losses, and limit farmers' access to market.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: As mentioned by the Secretary, as if the challenge continues,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: along with this existing challenge, the impact on the conflict in the Middle East,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: particularly on fuel and fertilizer, has increased drastically.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: A year-to-year comparison of August National Weighted Average of Fertilizer will show

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: a higher prices of 6 out of 7 major grades used.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: The highest percentage increase among these includes 46.7% for granular urea,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: 43.61% for oil,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: and 40.89% for pilled urea.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: So ito po yung mga figures, sobrang laki na po ng itinaas.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Fertilizer prices began rising in the late 2020 as demand recovered from COVID-19,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: while supply chain remained disrupted and energy cost increased.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: The prices.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We go to the farmgate prices.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We have already expounded on the price of fertilizer and fuel.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Now we go to, well, contrasting the cost of production is the year-on-year.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Go back to the previous slide right after the, okay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Now, notwithstanding the cost or the increase in production cost this year,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: a year-on-year comparison of June farmgate prices in selected commodities show varying price changes.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: There is a notable increase in dry palay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: But we further noted a decrease in prices in hogs.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: It's 19%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: In red onion, 69%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: In broiler, 9%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Chicken eggs, 7%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: And tilapia, 3%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: So tumataas po yung cost of production, pero generally bumababa po yung presyo at the farmgate level.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Particularly for hogs at this time.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: The agricultural sector recorded a trade deficit of around 11.12 billion in 2025.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: But it represents a modest improvement of about 5% compared to the previous year.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This aligns with the trend observed in 2022 where trade gaps are gradually narrowing.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Narrowing.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Supported by raising export alongside moderate import growth.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Despite this encouraging developments, the trade deficit remains substantial.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Bringing this gap will require sustained support for export expansion while aggressively bolstering local farm yields and domestic supply chain.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Looking at the composition of agricultural trade,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: export remains substantial.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: It remains heavily concentrated on just a few commodities.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Coconut products lead toward the average of about 3.6 billion, followed by bananas, at 1.68 billion.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Incidentally, Mr. Chair, we are now confirmed as the second biggest exporter of banana in the world.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: And pineapple products, around 3.370 million.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: On the import side, animal and vegetable oils and pot account for the largest,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: followed by fruits and vegetables and animal feeds.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Together, these figures underscore the sector's narrow export resilience,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: reliance and on the handful products alongside substantial widespread demand for foreign food items at critical production inputs.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Let me bring you to the sufficiency level of selected commodities.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Based on the 2025 self-sufficiency level,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: domestic production is sufficient in several commodities,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: including root crops and vegetables.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: However, there remains a significant gap for rice, potato, onion, coffee, mango, garlic,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: indicating continued reliance on imports.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: livestock and poultry show generally strong domestic production

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: with chebon and eggs at 100% sufficiency.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Chicken and duck's meat are close to self-sufficiency,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: while caribbean, pork, beef,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: are a large supply of these commodities.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: For fisheries, we have crabs, oysters,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: but when it comes to milkfish, tilapia,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: we are nearly 100%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: we remain below self-sufficiency.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Although the department's budget has expanded,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: its share in the national budget remains relatively low,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: 2.62% over the past two decades.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: While comparing it with our Asian neighbor,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: FAO data underscores this gap,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: showing that agriculture's share of government expenditure

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: in the Philippines is a lot lower than the expenditures in China,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: India, Thailand, Vietnam, Bangladesh, and Cambodia.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Looking at Indonesia, by contrast,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Indonesia indicates a slightly lower share at 2.6%,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: yet maintains a larger agricultural sector

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: that achieves rice sufficiency in 2025.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This comparison suggests that progress depends not only on spending,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: but on effective resource management and productivity conversion.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: A key factor that has been Indonesia's focus is agricultural extension since 2020.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Demonstrating that robust extension services serve as a vital mechanism

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: for technology transfer, farmer decision support,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: and targeted intervention delivery.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Before we proceed, Mr. Chair, to FY2027 budget,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: we would like to highlight the five key result areas

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: under the

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Para sa Masabagmaganan,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: and the Five Key Result Areas.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Under the Para sa Masabagmaganan,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: we focus our plans and programs among these key objectives.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: The first one is on enhanced productivity.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We need to increase the yield per hectare.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We cannot increase our land area,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: but definitely we can increase the yield.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We need to increase income,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: and that means lowering the cost and increasing the value.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We need to improve food security and proper nutrition.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: It is not just producing food, but producing nutritious food.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We need to reduce our dependence on import by increasing or improving self-sufficiency,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: and ultimately reduce poverty in the agriculture and fishery sector.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: For the next set of presentation, Mr. Chair,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: I would like to turn over the floor to Undersecretary Nora Oliveros,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: who will cast the financial component of our report.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Yusek Oliveros.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Yusek Aziz Perez.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You now have the floor, Yusek Nora.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Oh, there you go.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Magandang umaga po sa lahat.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Before I proceed to the 2027 budget proposal of the Department of Agriculture,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: let me first brief the Committee on the Utilization of the Funds of DA for 2026.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Well, this slide presents the utilization status of the Department of Agriculture,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: net of attached corporation,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: as of September 30, 2026,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: covering both current and continuing appropriations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The Department has received a total allotment of ₱141.5 billion

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: out of the ₱172 billion total adjusted appropriations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Of this amount, ₱90.4 billion has been obligated,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: representing an overall obligation rate of 63.9%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Total disbursements amounted to ₱50.8 billion, equivalent to 56.2% of total obligations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The majority of the allotment is under current appropriation with an obligation rate of 67%

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: and a disbursement rate of 58%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: For continuing appropriations, the obligation rate is 43.6%,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: while the disbursement rate is 38%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: These figures are being monitored by the Department

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: and have instructed all heads of the agencies

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: to draw a catch-up plan for 2026

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: to ensure the timely utilization and disbursement of the available funds

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: in accordance with the approved programs and applicable government rules.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Next slide, please.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: This slide shows the summary by major programs,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: representing 82% of the total allotment received by the Department of Agriculture.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The Department of Agriculture's major programs are anchored by high-performing areas

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: like the Agricultural Credit Program,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: which achieve highest obligation and disbursement rate.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Key initiatives such as the National Rice Program show strong fund commitment,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: though disbursement acceleration is needed across several sectors,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Most notably

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: on foreign-assisted projects where

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: payments lag behind obligations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Overall, programs with large

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: budget allocations, such as

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: locally funded programs continue

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: to drive the bulk of total spending.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: We have also an update on the unreleased funds for 2027, one reason why we have low obligation rates and disbursements.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Some of these are shown on the next slide.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Under the Office of the Secretary, we have a total of 49.7 billion unreleased appropriations as of September 30, 2026, of which 19.8 billion were released in October, namely the funds for the FMR projects amounting to 18.68 billion and the establishment of the Agri-Food Hub project amounting to 500 million pesos.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Under the Office of the Secretary, we have a total of 49.7 billion unreleased appropriations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Some of these are for the National Rice Program, the National High Value Crops, the FMR projects, Animal Welfare Supervision and Accreditation Program, Biosecurity for Agriculture and Fishery, Building Sustainable Agriculture and Fishery Enterprises or the SAFE projects,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: also under the SAGIP-SACA Act, the requests are all for revision, updating the compilation of the required supporting documents to address the observations raised also by the DBM.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Also, unreleased as of September 30 is 22 million for the Cold Storage Expansion Project, the Digital Agriculture Project and 500 million for the establishment of the Agri-Food Hub.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The funds were released, however, in October 2026.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: September, yeah, October 2026, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Yes, this is additional for the Food Hub, additional release, 500 million.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: After September 30, we have received the releases for the Food Hub Project of 500 million.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: October, yes.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Another one.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Yun lang po, after September 30, Food Hub lang po.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So the others are still in, of course, are still ongoing and currently being evaluated by the DBM.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: And some of which are still...

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: And some of which are still ongoing with us because we have to comply for some supporting documents, additional requirements by the DBM, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Next slide are the unreleased appropriations for some of our attached agencies.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: We have also a 250 million pending for the ACPC.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Also, we have already submitted the request for this, but we have also to comply to certain...

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Documentary requirements by the DBM.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: We have also another pending by the BIFAR, 407 million for the mobile water treatment and desalination system.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So that's the status of our unreleased appropriations as of September 30, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Now, may I go to the 2027 features of the DA proposal?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: For the agri-sector, which includes the DA, the National Irrigation Administration, and the Department of Agri and Reform,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: the total NEP that we have received as of today is 261.7 billion pesos, of which 198 billion is allocated to the Department of Agriculture.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So this represents a decrease in the budget of the DA comparing with the 2026 GAA of around 17 billion pesos.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: For the whole sector, it is a decrease of 35.3 billion pesos.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Let me go to the details of the 198.4 billion allocated for DA for 2027.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The Department of Agriculture.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: As a budget of 198 billion, a decrease of 17.2 billion, or 8%, compared to the 2026 GAA.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The Department's budget is distributed across key expenditure categories.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So we have around 8.3 billion, or 4.2%, for salaries and compensation.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: MOE, which receives the highest allocation, at 62.46%, or 123.9%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: These, of course, are funds allocated for the different programs, operations, and services of the DA.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Capital outlay of around 33.34%, or 66.2 billion, for infrastructure, facilities, and other investment that benefit our farmers and fisher folk.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Now, the next slide shows the budget summary as to the cost structure of the budget.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So this is allocated for, the budget of 198 is allocated for general administration and support services, support to operations, and operations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So the operations budget is allocated around 156 billion for 2027.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The bulk of the decrease, however,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: for the budget of 20, of the DA for 2027, the bulk of the decrease of around 7.2 billion is particularly on the locally funded projects.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Also, we have an increase of 20 billion, no?

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: We have an increase of 20 billion due to the animal industry development and competitive program.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Next slide, please.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: As we look at the budget for 2027, per attached agencies, we have only an increase allocated for the Philippine Center for Post-Harvest Development and Mechanization,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources, and the Philippine Council for Agriculture and Fisheries.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: All other attached agencies of the DA have suffered decrease in the allocation of the 2026 budget.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: For the attached corporation, again, there's only one corporation that received an increase in its budget.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: And this is for the National Tobacco Administration.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: All the seven corporations have received a decrease in their budgets for 2027.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Particularly, the Fisheries Development Authority for its construction, rehabilitation, and improvement of fish ports, around 15.89%,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: and the Philippine Crop Insurance Corporation.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: For the banner programs, we look at the budget by the banner programs.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Again, all of the banner programs have received decreases in the budget.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The National Rice Program, for example, has received a decrease of around 4.8%,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: while the National Corn Program has received a decrease of around 4.8%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The National Crop Program has received a decrease of around 4.54%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The High Value Crops Development, 34% decrease.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: National Organic, 0.48%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Halal Food, 10%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: National Urban and Peri-Urban, 53%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: For the National Livestock Program,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: this is not actually a decrease but just a reallocation of the fund

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: because it has a program of 20 billion under the Animal Industry Development and Competitiveness Program of 20 billion.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So, inilipat lang po natin yung appropriations para sa mga tila.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The budget allocation for mainstreaming.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Climate Resilient Agriculture in Regional Programs and Projects,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: the Kabuhayan at Kaundaran ng Kababayang Katutubo,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: and the Special Areas for Agricultural Development, Phase 2,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: and the National Soil Health Program,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: ito po ay inilipat natin sa regular programs.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Mainstream na po natin itong mga programang ito sa regular programs natin

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: across the different banner programs.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Makikita din po natin dito sa slide na to,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: yung notable increase sa Animal Industry Development and Competitiveness Program

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: pursuant to RA 12308.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Ito po yung sinasabi kong 20 billion na allocation for the livestock industry

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: in compliance with the law.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Meron din po tayong decrease dun sa atin.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Meron din po tayong decrease dun sa ating non-requiring project,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: yung Presidential Assistance to Farmers and Fisher Folk,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: previously approved in 2026.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Ito po ay hindi na-recommenda.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Pero dun po sa ating current na GAB,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: ito po ay na-restore, no, around 10 billion.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Dun po naman sa ating PCC, sa Philippine Crop Insurance,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: ito din po ay Philippine Carabao, yung Philippine Carabao po natin, center,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: na ilipat din po ang budget nito doon sa ating Animal Competitiveness Enhancement Program.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Kung titignan po naman natin yung budget sa ating foreign-assisted projects,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: lahat din po ito ay nagkaroon ng decrease.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Ang nakita lang po nating increase.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Ito ay yung ating bagong project,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: yung ating French Government Assisted Project Farm-to-Market Bridge Program,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: which aims to address the continuing need for reliable and accessible bridge infrastructure in agri-production areas.

513
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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: All others po ay decrease po ang ating na-receive.

514
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:06,760
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

515
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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So I think that's it, Mr. Chair, for the features of the DA recommended by,

516
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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: and the budget for 2027.

517
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I understand that you will end your presentation here,

518
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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and we have this understanding that we will not have a agency-by-agency presentation of budget,

519
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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but of course, all these attached agencies, the bureaus should be ready to answer the questions to be raised by our senators.

520
00:57:42,020 --> 00:57:43,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

521
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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with that, we can now proceed with the questions of our members of the Senate,

522
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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with the permission of our Senate President, Senator Aimee Marcos,

523
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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: who was here 15 minutes before 10,

524
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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: had requested that she be allowed to go for her first round.

525
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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And we will give each senator 10 minutes for their first round questions.

526
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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we can now proceed with Senator Aimee Marcos.

527
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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You have your 10 minutes.

528
00:58:18,780 --> 00:58:19,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, ma'am.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you very much, Chairman.

530
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: It's farming hours.

531
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Senator Imee R. Marcos: We wake up very early.

532
00:58:26,820 --> 00:58:31,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: My question simply is, how much are we actually spending on rice,

533
00:58:33,620 --> 00:58:40,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and still persisting as the number one world's importer of rice?

534
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The National Rice Program is 29.2%.

535
00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:56,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: RCEP 30 billion, is this correct? RICE for all, 10 billion. Another NFA, 11.1 billion. This doesn't even count the Philippine RICE Institute.

536
00:58:57,340 --> 00:59:08,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ASEP, CEA, the Remedies Fund, CEMF, many support programs. OSEC, 44.2 billion for RICE again.

537
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:15,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And then, parts that are for RICE under PRDP and the other foreign-assisted projects.

538
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:23,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pag sinumatotal po natin ito, hihigit po ito ng 81 billion, yung direct RICE lang.

539
00:59:25,020 --> 00:59:34,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano ba talaga ang dahilan na nagkukulang pa rin tayo sa pagbibigay ng kanin, ng RICE sa ating mga kababayan?

540
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:36,700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kulang pa ba ito?

541
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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

542
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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, from our records, it's 60 billion. Sa RICE, not 80 billion.

543
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:59,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: But yung sa 60, sorry Secretary, para lang sa kwenta. Sinasabi ninyong 60 billion kasi yung National RICE Program, halos 30. Tapos yung Regular RICE Program, 30 ulit.

544
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 60? Ganun po ba?

545
01:00:04,340 --> 01:00:06,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: RCEP plus national rice.

546
01:00:06,460 --> 01:00:07,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa 60 billion,

547
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, is

548
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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yan yung direct sa

549
01:00:11,900 --> 01:00:14,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: production. Kasi meron tayong

550
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:15,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: rice for all na 10 billion.

551
01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:16,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: O, may 10.

552
01:00:17,020 --> 01:00:19,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Plus NFA na 9 billion, which has

553
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nothing to do with production.

554
01:00:22,220 --> 01:00:23,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's right. Tapos may presidential

555
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 10 billion rent for rice

556
01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:27,410
Senator Imee R. Marcos: assistant.

557
01:00:27,410 --> 01:00:27,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

558
01:00:27,740 --> 01:00:29,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, marami talaga

559
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kapag sinumatotal?

560
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Marami naman siya, pero kung

561
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:34,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tinatanong niyong kulang,

562
01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:37,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang sagot ko dyan, kulang.

563
01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:39,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kulang. Ano ang dapat

564
01:00:39,860 --> 01:00:41,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: para hindi na tayo

565
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: number one? After all,

566
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: between Erie and Los

567
01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:47,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Baños, we essentially,

568
01:00:47,980 --> 01:00:49,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Filipinos taught the world

569
01:00:49,860 --> 01:00:51,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: how to plant rice.

570
01:00:51,420 --> 01:00:53,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tayo naman nagturo eh. Bakit

571
01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:54,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nagkagalito?

572
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung akong

573
01:00:56,180 --> 01:00:58,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tatanong niyo, number one,

574
01:00:58,860 --> 01:00:59,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: irigasyon.

575
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kulang na kulang.

576
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa irigasyon alone,

577
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:04,910
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang kailangan...

578
01:01:04,910 --> 01:01:05,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero yung irigasyon,

579
01:01:05,580 --> 01:01:07,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung NIA, wala na sa inyo, hindi po ba?

580
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:08,540
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Nasa OP na po?

581
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pero ang tinatanong niyo, kasi

582
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bakit kulang tayo sa bigas eh?

583
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang sagot ko dyan,

584
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kailangan mag-invest po

585
01:01:17,380 --> 01:01:19,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang ating bansa sa irigasyon.

586
01:01:19,260 --> 01:01:21,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And it will take 1.2 trillion

587
01:01:21,580 --> 01:01:23,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pesos to irrigate the remaining

588
01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:24,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lands natin.

589
01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:27,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: As far as the DA naman is concerned,

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01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, we need

591
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: more money for post-harvest facilities,

592
01:01:32,060 --> 01:01:34,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: especially dryers for our farmers

593
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and

594
01:01:35,780 --> 01:01:38,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mechanization.

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01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Magkano po ang tinitignan ninyo

596
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: para sa post-harvest?

597
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Maybe another 50 billion, sir.

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01:01:45,140 --> 01:01:46,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ama, Mr. Chair.

599
01:01:46,220 --> 01:01:46,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 5-0?

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01:01:47,140 --> 01:01:49,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I mean, over the years, hindi naman yung immediate.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sang-ayon po ako sa sinasabi ninyo,

602
01:01:52,060 --> 01:01:53,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: talagang kulang ang

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01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: agricultural infrastructure investment,

604
01:01:56,260 --> 01:01:57,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: itong irigasyon.

605
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sinasagot na rin natin sa PRD,

606
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PPP, sa mga farm-to-market road,

607
01:02:01,660 --> 01:02:03,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: at yung post-harvest nga,

608
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na napakalaki ng ating loss

609
01:02:05,420 --> 01:02:06,700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa post-harvest.

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01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, napakalaki pa rin.

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01:02:09,340 --> 01:02:11,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Solar irrigation din, under din sa amin

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01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:12,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang solar irrigation,

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01:02:13,540 --> 01:02:15,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lalo ngayon, El Nino, kulang ang budget

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01:02:15,660 --> 01:02:17,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: natin para dyan, Mr. Chair.

615
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero nakita ko na nagbawas kayo ng budget

616
01:02:19,780 --> 01:02:21,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kahit mag-EL Nino.

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01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, nagbawas kami ng budget

618
01:02:23,980 --> 01:02:26,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: because hindi yan yung aming

619
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang proposal namin actually

620
01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:28,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mas malaki.

621
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, binagsak sa DBCC?

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01:02:33,540 --> 01:02:34,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, at

623
01:02:34,380 --> 01:02:37,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: basically, we had to work

624
01:02:37,620 --> 01:02:39,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: on a CAPE, Mr. Chair.

625
01:02:39,980 --> 01:02:41,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Palibasa tayo nga ang

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01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: importer, nagiging usapin

627
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung importasyon. For clarification,

628
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:47,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: who approves the importation

629
01:02:47,980 --> 01:02:49,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: permits and clearances?

630
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi po ba yung Bureau of Plant Industry

631
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: under DA?

632
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tama po ba yan?

633
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, it goes through the

634
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:58,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: BPI, Mr. Chair.

635
01:02:58,760 --> 01:02:59,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's right.

636
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:00,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yun din ang alam ko.

637
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And under the present law,

638
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: which government agency is authorized

639
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to import rice on a regular basis?

640
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:10,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Wala, Mr. Chair.

641
01:03:11,060 --> 01:03:12,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The general rule is that

642
01:03:12,940 --> 01:03:15,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the government, especially

643
01:03:15,140 --> 01:03:16,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: NTAs, prohibited from

644
01:03:16,900 --> 01:03:18,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: importing rice. Di po ba?

645
01:03:18,860 --> 01:03:20,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: There's a single exception

646
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: provided in RA 11203

647
01:03:23,660 --> 01:03:24,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Section 6.

648
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi talagang pinaghirapan po

649
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: namin yan na kinakailangan.

650
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung emergency presidential powers

651
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: lang ang magsasabi kapag may

652
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: imminent or forecasted domestic

653
01:03:35,820 --> 01:03:37,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: rice shortage. Tama po ba?

654
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I would like to clarify

655
01:03:40,060 --> 01:03:42,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na hindi hong wala ang allowed.

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01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron hong pwede.

657
01:03:44,060 --> 01:03:45,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Okay. Sinong po sa gobyerno

658
01:03:45,740 --> 01:03:46,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang allowed?

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01:03:46,980 --> 01:03:48,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: PITC will be allowed.

660
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: FTI may be allowed.

661
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:52,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Full terminal.

662
01:03:53,540 --> 01:03:55,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And FTI may be allowed

663
01:03:55,780 --> 01:03:56,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: under

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01:03:56,340 --> 01:03:59,040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: our understanding is

665
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the DA can designate also

666
01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:04,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: an entity to import rice

667
01:04:04,020 --> 01:04:06,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: under G2G contracts.

668
01:04:06,340 --> 01:04:06,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Is that correct?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Provided it's not NFA.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya yung sinasabi po ninyo, pag in-assign ninyo

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung PITC or yung FTI,

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01:04:14,620 --> 01:04:16,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: pwede naman sila. Tama po ba?

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01:04:16,740 --> 01:04:17,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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01:04:17,980 --> 01:04:20,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I have a question. Yung GOCC ba?

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01:04:20,180 --> 01:04:21,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Authorized to import rice?

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01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: FTI is a GOCC.

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01:04:24,980 --> 01:04:26,700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So FTI and PICC

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01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:27,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung sinasabi rin ninyo?

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01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:28,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Natanong ko kasi, nalilito po ako.

681
01:04:32,300 --> 01:04:33,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Since May,

682
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: matagal ko nang tinatanong

683
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa planters products

684
01:04:37,300 --> 01:04:40,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kung ano talaga ang status nila.

685
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:41,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At nakatanggap ako

686
01:04:41,940 --> 01:04:43,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng sulat mula sa planters

687
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na ang pinipilit nila

688
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ay private corporation sila.

689
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:49,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: When in fact, the reality

690
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is there's an abject lack of clarity

691
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on the status of PPI.

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01:04:54,260 --> 01:04:56,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: There's a Supreme Court case

693
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa PPI versus Fertifil

694
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:58,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na yung

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01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Supreme Court sabi, private corporation.

696
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya tama naman yung sulat

697
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng PPI. But that case

698
01:05:05,980 --> 01:05:08,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: was decided long before

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01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the Governance Commission of the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: GOCCs. So as of

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: 30 June 2026,

702
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:16,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang GCG

703
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: continues to classify

704
01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:19,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: both PFI

705
01:05:19,740 --> 01:05:22,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and PPI as GOCC.

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01:05:22,980 --> 01:05:24,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So is PPI

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01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: a GOCC? Yun ang lista

708
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng GOCC.

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01:05:27,980 --> 01:05:29,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, in our opinion,

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01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: no. It is not a

711
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: GOCC. If it is

712
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: not a GOCC, what about

713
01:05:35,660 --> 01:05:37,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the Planters Foundation, Inc.?

714
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:39,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: It's after all

715
01:05:39,580 --> 01:05:41,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: chaired by you, Mr. Secretary.

716
01:05:41,980 --> 01:05:43,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

717
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I am the ex-official

718
01:05:45,340 --> 01:05:47,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: chairman. And Planters

719
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: products is sugeneris.

720
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It is unique on its own.

721
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:53,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Okay. Parang

722
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: madalas natin naririnig yan, ha?

723
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Nagiging magulo tuloy

724
01:05:57,620 --> 01:05:59,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang batas na i-a-apply.

725
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So if I

726
01:06:01,620 --> 01:06:03,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: go with your argument that PPI

727
01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:05,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is not a GOCC despite

728
01:06:05,220 --> 01:06:07,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the listing of

729
01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:09,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: it under the GOC

730
01:06:09,460 --> 01:06:11,260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: listing, it is not a

731
01:06:11,260 --> 01:06:13,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: GOCC, it's not a public

732
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: entity, why is it that

733
01:06:15,420 --> 01:06:17,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the great majority of its directors

734
01:06:17,380 --> 01:06:19,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: are nominated by PFI?

735
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Isn't this not

736
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the usual

737
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: definition of

738
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: total government control

739
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: or almost total?

740
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Total government control?

741
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: From what I understand,

742
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung titignan

743
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: natin yung

744
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sino ba may-ari

745
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nung

746
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: foundation

747
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng PFI,

748
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: malinaw naman doon na

749
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang may-ari nun,

750
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hindi ang gobyerno.

751
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So who owns it? Kasi

752
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang sinasabi natin ngayon, yung

753
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PFI holds in trust

754
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 80% of the PPI

755
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: shares. So even

756
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: if the PFI merely holds in

757
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: trust those shares, the fact remains

758
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na yung PFI,

759
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: gobyerno, is

760
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: exercising at the very least

761
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: indirect if complete control

762
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: over PPI through the

763
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nominations of the great majority of

764
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: its directors. Para sa akin,

765
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: very concerning yung potential

766
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: conflicts of interest

767
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and the due advantage that

768
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: may arise. How can DA claim

769
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to regulate planters'

770
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: products impartially

771
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: when the chairman of PFI

772
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is the secretary of DA

773
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: who effectively controls the entire

774
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: board of directors?

775
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Are you not effectively regulating

776
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: a corporation that is under

777
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: your complete or almost

778
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: complete influence? Yun ang

779
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kinatatakutan natin

780
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na maiipit ka talaga.

781
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I don't think so,

782
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

783
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I was appointed

784
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as secretary and by default,

785
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ako'y nalagay niyan as ex-officio.

786
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tama. Doon sa

787
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: foundation, hindi sa PPI.

788
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang allegation na naririnig ko

789
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dati is recently,

790
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: katulad na rin ninyo, na ako

791
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang nag-nominate ng lahat

792
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng members

793
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng board.

794
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Actually, that is not true.

795
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero nandun eh. Yun talaga ang

796
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:22,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sinasabi sa...

797
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:23,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang nag-nominate

798
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ko ng kalahati ng board before

799
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: my time is si

800
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Senior Usec

801
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:30,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pangaliban.

802
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero tamang-tama yung

803
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sinamin niyo. Ang nag-nominate,

804
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: gobyerno pa rin.

805
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Usec Pangaliban pa rin. Hindi po ba?

806
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pero hindi ako.

807
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero pareho pa rin yun eh.

808
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:42,970
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi... Para sa inyo ho.

809
01:08:42,970 --> 01:08:43,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Para sa akin.

810
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi para sa akin.

811
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The secretary and every member of

812
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the cabinet is the alter ego of the

813
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: president. And you're clearly

814
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: part of the government as the secretary

815
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: of agriculture. Unless

816
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: something's changed,

817
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mr. Secretary, with all due

818
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: respect, gobyerno po kayo?

819
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Well, yes, gobyerno ko. But

820
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: again,

821
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang may-ari ng PPI

822
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is... It was created

823
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I think in 1962.

824
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, that's correct.

825
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And it was owned by farmers eh.

826
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's correct.

827
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: From what I understand,

828
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung ownership ng farmers

829
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is being... Hinahanap na ngayon

830
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng PPI

831
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: through legal means kung sino yung

832
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: real owner niyan. As I said,

833
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that company is unique

834
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: on its own. Yun na nga.

835
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya hindi siya

836
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: under COA.

837
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sabihin na natin... Private entity siya

838
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as per Supreme Court.

839
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So...

840
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then I do not

841
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: do day-to-day functions

842
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:48,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: on that company.

843
01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:49,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: O siyempre hindi kayo

844
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nagpapatakbo nun kasi may iba naman

845
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hindi ako nagpapatakbo nun at all.

846
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero ang maliwanag, kahit sabihin natin

847
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na debatable ang

848
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: status ng PFI at ng PPI,

849
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang maliwanag

850
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: eh talagang

851
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nakaupo kayo doon.

852
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi po ba?

853
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:07,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa pundasyon.

854
01:10:07,900 --> 01:10:09,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sa pundasyon.

855
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Which owns 80% of the shares

856
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in trust.

857
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 79% of the shares in trust.

858
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ayun na rin po yun.

859
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Anyway, PPI insists it's a private

860
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: corporation if it's true.

861
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Doesn't your involvement or

862
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: any DA official

863
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: previous or future

864
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in PPI's

865
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: corporate governance violate

866
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Section 7 of RA

867
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 6713 prohibiting all

868
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: public officials from managing

869
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: or controlling private enterprises

870
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: regulated by

871
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: their own offices.

872
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kali yun yung regulator, kayo pa yung

873
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nagmamay-ari, kayo pa nagpapatakbo.

874
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Parang magulo ata yun.

875
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I would like to correct na hindi ako may-ari niyan?

876
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi. Ang gobyerno

877
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: may-ari effectively. Kahit

878
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in trust pa yan. Kahit sabihin pa natin...

879
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:57,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Hindi.

880
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ano pwede natin sabihin na gobyerno

881
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may-ari yun yan dahil

882
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the papers clearly say

883
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it is owned by farmers

884
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and we are just the trustee.

885
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And ah...

886
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Siguro kung magandang

887
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: gumawa kayo ng batas na matanggal ang

888
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Secretary of Agriculture dyan sa

889
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: being ex-officio ng isang

890
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kumpanya na yan, that would be

891
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:20,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: great.

892
01:11:20,300 --> 01:11:21,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Maganda rin siguro

893
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kung kausapin ninyo yung

894
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: GOCC kung bakit kayo

895
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nalista pa rin bilang bahagi

896
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng gobyerno.

897
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi klaro yun sa PPI.

898
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So how can the public, para natin

899
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: magagaranti ang tao na yung

900
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PPI hindi preferred

901
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kapag ah...

902
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang mga opisyal eh talagang

903
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ah...

904
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nandun. Eh ang

905
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: klaro-klaro. Which is it?

906
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Is PPI a government

907
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: controlled corporation?

908
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: In which case it's authority

909
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to undertake rice importation,

910
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is scrutinized and highly

911
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: limited by law

912
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ah... governing operations in

913
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the government? Or is it a private

914
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: corporation? In which case

915
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the involvement of the Secretary,

916
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: not you personally, but

917
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the government in general,

918
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in its management

919
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: raises very serious

920
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: constitutional and conflict

921
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: of interest concerns.

922
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Magiging magulo eh. Yun ang problema

923
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kasi. Ah...

924
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, hindi ako abogado.

925
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But ah...

926
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bilang layman lang,

927
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tingin kong pinakamataas

928
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na hukuman dito sa ating

929
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bansa ay Supreme Court.

930
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At ah... base sa decision ng

931
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Supreme Court, na nakita ko,

932
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I don't know, I don't follow the details,

933
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the Supreme Court declared it

934
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as a private entity.

935
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tama. So...

936
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I cannot...

937
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I cannot be...

938
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ayaw ang mga abogado.

939
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: No, Secretary,

940
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I'm not asking for an answer this minute.

941
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero I agree with you. Doon sa PPI

942
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: versus Fertifil Corporation,

943
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang problema 2008 yun.

944
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung bagong batas

945
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na pinagbabawal ang importasyon

946
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: eh pumasok lang noong 2011.

947
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya medyo

948
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: malabo na talaga yung status

949
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kung tutuusin. Ngayon,

950
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: binanggit ninyo na yung PPI

951
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: shares are held in trust

952
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: by the foundation.

953
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung 79.9%, eh

954
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in trust. And yung PFI

955
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: doesn't own the actual shares.

956
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So ang tanong, who owns

957
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the shares of PPI?

958
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Is it not under LOI

959
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 178, March

960
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 1974, yung

961
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PPI shares, sabi nga

962
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ninyo, held by the PFI

963
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: where the

964
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Secretary sits, should eventually

965
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: disperse to their true

966
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: owners, tulad ng binanggit ninyo,

967
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung fertilizer end user,

968
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung mismong farmer. Ang

969
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: tanong, bakit hanggang ngayon hindi pa

970
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na pamimigay yung mga

971
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: shares niyan?

972
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Actually, Mr. Chair, kami lang

973
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before you answer, we'd just like to place

974
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on record and acknowledge the presence

975
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the Chairman of the Committee on Finance,

976
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sen. Javier Hercito, and our

977
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: majority leader, Sen. Migs Zubiri.

978
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, sir.

979
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, for so

980
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: many years, since 1962 nga,

981
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nandyan yung PPI. It is

982
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: only during my administration

983
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na inaayos namin lahat yan,

984
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: inaayos. There is

985
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: now an active search ngayon

986
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to identify sino ba talaga yung mga

987
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: beneficial owners or owners

988
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: on record niyan. Malamang nga

989
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: since 1962 pa ho yan, baka

990
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: majority diyan, baka

991
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: patay na.

992
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ayun na nga, pero may

993
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: mga heirs naman yan, may successors naman yan.

994
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I cannot

995
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:48,470
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: speak for that.

996
01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:49,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: No, I understand.

997
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I'm not asking you naman,

998
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I just want to

999
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: explain right now. Ang tanong lang,

1000
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the shares have remained undistributed

1001
01:14:57,220 --> 01:14:58,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for 52 years.

1002
01:14:58,580 --> 01:14:59,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And the government

1003
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:03,040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: continues effectively to hold them

1004
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: whether they are nominally in trust or not.

1005
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And PPI continues to be part and parcel

1006
01:15:10,940 --> 01:15:13,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: of the GOCC listing.

1007
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya napakalabo kapag nag-i-import

1008
01:15:15,900 --> 01:15:18,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang PPI ng katakot-takot na bigas.

1009
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: On that note, may I ask

1010
01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:25,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for the rice importation data of the PPI

1011
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:27,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for the last 10 years, please.

1012
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:28,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Before plenary, sana po.

1013
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

1014
01:15:32,420 --> 01:15:34,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For sure, we will ask BPI

1015
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to submit the list to you, Mr. Chair.

1016
01:15:37,020 --> 01:15:39,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Okay, thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

1017
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:40,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, thank you.

1018
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:41,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Exacto.

1019
01:15:42,500 --> 01:15:44,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 10 minutes for your first round.

1020
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:49,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you for that, Senator Aimee.

1021
01:15:49,700 --> 01:15:51,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We now proceed with the Senate President

1022
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for his questions.

1023
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Senate President Nguyen.

1024
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:58,420
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1025
01:15:58,560 --> 01:15:59,800
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Mr. Chairman, I would

1026
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I saw earlier that

1027
01:16:02,140 --> 01:16:04,960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Senator Irwin came in earlier than me

1028
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:06,840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: so I would wave my

1029
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,220
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: my portion to him

1030
01:16:10,220 --> 01:16:12,940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: so that he can propound his questions.

1031
01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:13,600
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Okay.

1032
01:16:14,660 --> 01:16:15,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just for the record,

1033
01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:18,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the tradition is that

1034
01:16:18,620 --> 01:16:20,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Senate President gets first crack

1035
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but he is now yielding

1036
01:16:22,260 --> 01:16:23,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: his first crack to

1037
01:16:23,900 --> 01:16:27,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: our colleague, Senator Irwin Tulfo.

1038
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:29,100
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Thank you, Senate President Nguyen.

1039
01:16:29,260 --> 01:16:29,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

1040
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:31,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator Tulfo.

1041
01:16:31,460 --> 01:16:32,460
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1042
01:16:32,620 --> 01:16:34,100
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Thank you, Mr. Senate President

1043
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:37,960
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: for giving way, sir,

1044
01:16:38,340 --> 01:16:40,200
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: to let me ask questions first.

1045
01:16:41,380 --> 01:16:41,900
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Secretary,

1046
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,700
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kanina po sa presentation ho ninyo

1047
01:16:44,700 --> 01:16:46,000
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: nabanggit ho ninyo

1048
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,000
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: isa sa mga problema natin

1049
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,880
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ay ito pong shrinking agricultural land po natin

1050
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,820
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kasi marami na pong binibenta

1051
01:16:53,820 --> 01:16:54,800
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ng mga lupain

1052
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,060
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: in exchange for tinatayuan

1053
01:16:58,060 --> 01:16:59,140
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ng mga factory subdivision

1054
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,200
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: semiteryo.

1055
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,560
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sir, malaking may tutulong ba

1056
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,140
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: pag may pasan na ang National Land Use Act

1057
01:17:06,140 --> 01:17:08,300
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: para sa mga ikang

1058
01:17:08,300 --> 01:17:09,900
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: mapigil

1059
01:17:09,900 --> 01:17:12,300
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ang ikang pagliit

1060
01:17:12,300 --> 01:17:13,760
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ng agricultural lands?

1061
01:17:14,420 --> 01:17:16,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, yes.

1062
01:17:16,220 --> 01:17:18,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That is one of the most important things

1063
01:17:18,500 --> 01:17:21,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: para sa amin sa Department of Agriculture

1064
01:17:21,980 --> 01:17:23,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na mapasan na ho niya

1065
01:17:23,220 --> 01:17:25,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang Land Use Act na yan.

1066
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:26,360
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Alright.

1067
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,660
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Isa pa ho kanina, nabanggit yun sa presentation po

1068
01:17:29,660 --> 01:17:31,960
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ninyo yung kaya po mahal

1069
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,300
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: yung production po ng rice natin

1070
01:17:34,300 --> 01:17:35,860
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: at ang ibang food

1071
01:17:35,860 --> 01:17:39,020
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: dahil po sa mga fertilizers po

1072
01:17:39,020 --> 01:17:40,020
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: na high cost.

1073
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:41,740
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Tanong ho natin,

1074
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,220
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: 100% po ba we're depending

1075
01:17:45,220 --> 01:17:47,400
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: on fertilizer importation?

1076
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,100
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Hindi po ba meron din tayo mga

1077
01:17:49,100 --> 01:17:51,700
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: locally produced mga fertilizers

1078
01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:52,480
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: sa Secretary?

1079
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Lahat po ng, Mr. Chair,

1080
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lahat ng component ng fertilizer

1081
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng inorganic is,

1082
01:17:59,660 --> 01:18:00,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lahat naman lahat,

1083
01:18:00,340 --> 01:18:02,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maybe 90 plus percent

1084
01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:03,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is imported.

1085
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:05,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So mixing lang,

1086
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung meron man tinatawag na manufacturing

1087
01:18:07,380 --> 01:18:08,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa Pilipinas nito,

1088
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it's just mixing of the raw material

1089
01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:12,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that is still imported,

1090
01:18:12,900 --> 01:18:13,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

1091
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:14,940
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Alright, thank you.

1092
01:18:15,300 --> 01:18:16,040
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Let me now go,

1093
01:18:16,220 --> 01:18:17,940
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I don't know if kayo po ang sasagot

1094
01:18:17,940 --> 01:18:20,400
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: sa Laurel or ang BIFAR.

1095
01:18:21,500 --> 01:18:22,840
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kahapon nga po nabanggit ko,

1096
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:24,060
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I was in Marinduque,

1097
01:18:24,460 --> 01:18:27,040
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: tapos a few months ago,

1098
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,880
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I was over there in Palawan,

1099
01:18:29,660 --> 01:18:30,660
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: nandito nga po ang mga

1100
01:18:30,660 --> 01:18:32,420
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: mayors po natin.

1101
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,880
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ito nga po naging desisyon po

1102
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,180
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: sa Mercedar Fishing Corporation case.

1103
01:18:38,860 --> 01:18:40,140
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ano po ang ginagawa ngayon

1104
01:18:40,140 --> 01:18:42,280
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ng Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources

1105
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:43,820
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: para maprotektahan po ang ating

1106
01:18:43,820 --> 01:18:44,980
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: malilitamang isda

1107
01:18:44,980 --> 01:18:47,440
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: laban po sa pagpasok ng commercial

1108
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:49,260
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: fishing vessels sa municipal waters?

1109
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,260
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Meron na po bang

1110
01:18:51,260 --> 01:18:53,900
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: i-final a motion for reconsideration

1111
01:18:53,900 --> 01:18:55,980
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: dito ang BIFAR? Ano na po ang status

1112
01:18:55,980 --> 01:18:56,720
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: dito ngayon?

1113
01:18:57,420 --> 01:18:59,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I would like to request the BIFAR

1114
01:18:59,500 --> 01:19:01,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to answer yung detalya no,

1115
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:02,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kasi di ako updated masyado.

1116
01:19:03,340 --> 01:19:05,720
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Yes, go ahead po.

1117
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,020
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Good morning, Mr. Chair.

1118
01:19:08,740 --> 01:19:10,400
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: With the indulgence of our

1119
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:11,320
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Secretary,

1120
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,680
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: as to the BIFAR po,

1121
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,560
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: we already filed a motion for

1122
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,900
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: reconsideration regarding

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01:19:17,900 --> 01:19:20,000
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the case for

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Mercedar case,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ano ho naging problema dito, Sir?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I mean, paano ho?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Hindi ho makapaniwala ang mga fisher folks natin.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Pati po ang mga mayors natin

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: na bakit ho nakalusot ito

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: at ikaw ang

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: nadesisyonan ng

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: KORTET, kinatigan

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: itong malaking kumpanya.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ano ho nangyari dito?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Can you explain to us para

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: maintindihan po para itong mga

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: mayors po na nakikinig sa atin?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Parang nalusutan ho tayo yata, Sir.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Let me,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: allow me, Mr. Chair,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: to read the material proceedings of the

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: case. So, on 11th,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: December 2023, the RTC declared

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the challenge is statutory and regulatory

1146
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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: provisions unconstitutional,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: prohibited their enforcement

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: against Mercedar Fishing

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Corporation, and allowed

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: MFC to operate without regard to

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the 15-kilometer

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: limit subject

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: to the specified depth condition.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: On January 2024,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the Republic, through the Office of

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Solicitor General,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: filed a petition for review

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: and certiorary before the Supreme Court,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: challenging the RTC ruling

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: and raising procedural

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: jurisdictional and

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: substantial grounds.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: And on August 2024,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the Supreme Court First

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Division denied the Republic's

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: petition and affirmed the RTC

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: ruling, citing the late filing

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: of the petition and the failure

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: to establish reversible error.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: And on January 2025,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the OSG filed a motion for

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: reconsideration, arguing that the

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: procedural rules should be relaxed

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: in view of the constitutional issues

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: and public interest involved.

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01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,560
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: The OSG requested the referral

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: of the case to the Supreme Court and

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Bank, and in July 2025,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the Supreme Court

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: consolidated

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the cases

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: and transferred

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the consolidated cases to the

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: First Division for ununified

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: disposition of the case, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: So, what is the status? We are waiting

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: for the decisions

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: of the Supreme Court.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: The Supreme Court Division?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: We already filed through OSG

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the motion for reconsideration

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: of the case, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Rewind po tayo nabang itunin niyo

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: procedural lapses. Kaya po tayo natalo

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: dahil sa procedural lapses.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sino po may kasalanan?

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01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,360
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: At pinag-antay, nag-lapse po yung panahon

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: para sumagot po tayo.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Saan ho nagkulang? Kayo ho ba yun

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: o ang OSG na

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: hinayaan ho ninyong mag-lapse

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: yung panahon? Kasi tingin po ng

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ilan, parang pinabayaan

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ho ninyo na nag-lapse.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Parang sinadya na nag-lapse. Kasi

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kung tututuusin po,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kung hindi po natalo lang po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: tayo dahil yung panahon

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: na nag-expire na po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: para sumagot.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kaya nag-ruling po yung

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: korte in favor doon sa Mercedar.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sir, ano nangyari sa

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: abang abogado natin dyan

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: sa BIFAR? Pero naman siguro

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kay legal department o ano, Sir?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Yes, Your Honor.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: There is a legal division po of the

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Bureau of Fisheries handling the cases po.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Okay, what happened there?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: What happened, I think, Your Honor, if I'm not mistaken,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: correct me if I'm wrong,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: there was two decisions,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: I think, rendered by the

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: RTC. And the one that was

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the one that was

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: replied by BIFAR

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: for the motion was

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: not given into

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: consideration, but the other one,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: was, yun po yung nabigyan ng ano, ng hindi po nabigyan ng RTC po.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: So that's, I think, the procedural

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: infirmities po na nangyari,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Your Honor, Mr. Chair.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Pero on the part of BIFAR,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: we filed

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the case

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: on time, but

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: there are two dispositions

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: of the cases

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: that were supposedly to be

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: adjudicated by the RTC.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: But unfortunately, Your Honor,

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01:23:29,180 --> 01:23:31,400
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Mr. Chair, it was the one

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01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,180
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: that we, the one that

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01:23:33,180 --> 01:23:35,260
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: for this motion

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: for reconsideration in the Supreme Court

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: was not given consideration,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Your Honor.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Anong motion for reconsideration po yung sinasabi ho ninyo?

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01:23:44,500 --> 01:23:45,400
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: What motion

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01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:46,920
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: for reconsideration is this?

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01:23:47,860 --> 01:23:48,420
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Can we

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01:23:48,420 --> 01:23:51,360
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sige po, papuntahin nyo pala, pitin nyo.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Can we call po our

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01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,480
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Chief Legal Division, Your Honor?

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01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:57,160
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: The mayors are not buying

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: that answer.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: The assistant director

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: na only because

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: of procedural lapses,

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01:24:05,500 --> 01:24:07,320
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: natalo yung mga ilang

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: libong fishermen natin. And I don't

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01:24:09,660 --> 01:24:11,240
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: buy that either. Na

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01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,120
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: tanalo tayo, procedure.

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01:24:13,500 --> 01:24:15,760
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Uso ho yan ganun na

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: nag-a, nadidilay,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: natatalo tayo dahil sa technical

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: lang. Go ahead.

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01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before the, before you

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01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:25,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: answer the, from

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: BIFAR, just for the information of our

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01:24:27,500 --> 01:24:28,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: colleagues,

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01:24:29,180 --> 01:24:31,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: actually what happened here based on

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01:24:31,620 --> 01:24:33,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the timeline,

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01:24:35,260 --> 01:24:35,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the

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01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mercadar Fishing Corporation,

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01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they filed a case at RTC

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01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:40,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Malabon

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01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in October 5.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: By November 10,

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01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 2023, the OSG

1284
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: asked RTC Malabon for more

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01:24:49,700 --> 01:24:50,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: time to respond.

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01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:52,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then,

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01:24:52,580 --> 01:24:54,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: by December 7,

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01:24:55,480 --> 01:24:57,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: less than a month later,

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01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: about a month later, RTC

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01:24:59,020 --> 01:25:01,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Malabon, the judge, moved forward

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: without the OSG's

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01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:05,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: response, allowing

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01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: only Mercadar to present

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01:25:07,480 --> 01:25:09,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: its side. So, dun palang

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01:25:09,620 --> 01:25:11,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa RTC Malabon,

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01:25:12,140 --> 01:25:13,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang balita ko rito, retired

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01:25:13,500 --> 01:25:14,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na tong judge na ito eh, pero

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bakit hindi binigyan

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng pagkakataon ng

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: OSG mag-respond? Yun ang isa rin

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tanong. And then, on December 11,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: RTC Malabon ruled

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01:25:25,740 --> 01:25:27,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that giving small

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01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: fissures and LGU

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01:25:29,620 --> 01:25:31,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: control over municipal waters

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01:25:31,480 --> 01:25:32,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is unconstitutional.

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01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:35,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on December 20 of the same

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: year, 2023, or about

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01:25:39,660 --> 01:25:40,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nine days later,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the OSG requested

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01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or filed a motion,

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01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I suppose, to reconsider the decision,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but the RTC Malabon

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: rejected it.

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01:25:52,860 --> 01:25:53,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun ang

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01:25:53,340 --> 01:25:55,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dun palang sa RTC,

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01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: katakatakang

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01:25:59,580 --> 01:26:01,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: parang minadali, no?

1320
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:03,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But having said that,

1321
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: go ahead. What is your name,

1322
01:26:06,180 --> 01:26:06,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: please, on record?

1323
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:10,240
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Actually,

1324
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:11,720
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: during the last time we...

1325
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We didn't hear your name.

1326
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,620
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Attorney Roberto Buazon, po.

1327
01:26:15,980 --> 01:26:17,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bu? Buason.

1328
01:26:17,380 --> 01:26:18,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Buason, okay. Please answer.

1329
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,220
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: I already discussed, Mr. Chair,

1330
01:26:21,380 --> 01:26:22,720
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: during the last time we met,

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01:26:23,220 --> 01:26:25,500
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: that this is a

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01:26:25,500 --> 01:26:27,100
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: petition for declaratorily,

1333
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:28,800
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: with prayer for issuance

1334
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,500
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: of TRO. On

1335
01:26:30,500 --> 01:26:32,800
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: October 25, they filed.

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01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,040
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: And then, on November

1337
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:36,840
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: 10, there was a hearing

1338
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,740
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: on the TRO. During

1339
01:26:38,740 --> 01:26:40,700
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: that time, the OSG,

1340
01:26:40,940 --> 01:26:42,940
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: who is the Council of BIPAR,

1341
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:44,800
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: asked for a motion for

1342
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:45,280
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: extension.

1343
01:26:46,340 --> 01:26:47,920
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I'm sorry, po,

1344
01:26:48,020 --> 01:26:50,400
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: attorney. Sino po itong

1345
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,720
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: judge na ito ng RTC na Malabon?

1346
01:26:52,780 --> 01:26:53,380
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: What's his name?

1347
01:26:53,980 --> 01:26:56,640
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Actually, I was not...

1348
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:57,240
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Sino po ba?

1349
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:58,960
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: I was not around during that time, po, po.

1350
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,180
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I would like to get his name, para ho.

1351
01:27:01,260 --> 01:27:03,540
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Do you submit the name to this committee

1352
01:27:03,540 --> 01:27:05,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that we can provide the senator

1353
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:06,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tool for?

1354
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I also want to know who these judges.

1355
01:27:09,020 --> 01:27:09,360
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Yes, po.

1356
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero ang balita ko, retired na eh.

1357
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,840
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: It doesn't matter, Mr. Chair,

1358
01:27:13,980 --> 01:27:15,000
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kasi para naman,

1359
01:27:15,220 --> 01:27:17,320
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: hindi naman po pwedeng gano'n. Malinaw po

1360
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,140
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: sa sikat ng araw kung ano ho dapat

1361
01:27:19,140 --> 01:27:21,160
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: maging desisyon. I mean, making

1362
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,120
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: decisions na hindi pa na-aantayin yung

1363
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,240
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kabilang panig. Mukhang mali naman ho

1364
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:26,800
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: yata. Hindi ho ako bagado, pero

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01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,040
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: dapat ho, eh, pinakinggan ho.

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01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,320
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kaya nga, I want to get the name

1367
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,260
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: of that retired judge. Correct, po.

1368
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,280
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Tapos eh, ano ho, naging action ho ninyo

1369
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,100
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: nung hindi kayo pinagbigyan? What did you do

1370
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:38,030
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: immediately after?

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01:27:38,030 --> 01:27:39,540
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Actually, we filed

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01:27:39,540 --> 01:27:41,100
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: a... During that time,

1373
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,100
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: it was only an oral

1374
01:27:43,100 --> 01:27:45,560
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: motion. So, on the last

1375
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:46,900
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: day, we filed a

1376
01:27:46,900 --> 01:27:49,320
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: written motion for extension to

1377
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,060
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: file an answer. But,

1378
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:53,660
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: be that as may,

1379
01:27:54,300 --> 01:27:55,480
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: nagkaroon na po kagad

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01:27:55,480 --> 01:27:56,920
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: ng resolusyon ng judge,

1381
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:58,040
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: to

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01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,000
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: order for

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01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,840
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: default. May motion for

1384
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,000
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: extension. So, there is an irregularity

1385
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:06,800
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: in the procedure. Ganon po ang nangyari.

1386
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:08,680
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: So, yung mga succeeding

1387
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,880
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: dates na nangyari,

1388
01:28:10,980 --> 01:28:12,800
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: even in the filing for petition for

1389
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,820
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: review on certiorari, nagkaroon

1390
01:28:14,820 --> 01:28:16,600
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: ng irregularity. Ganon po ang nangyari.

1391
01:28:17,580 --> 01:28:18,560
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: So, we filed,

1392
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,860
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: we assailed that error

1393
01:28:20,860 --> 01:28:22,620
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: in our motion for

1394
01:28:22,620 --> 01:28:24,780
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: reconsideration. So, we are waiting

1395
01:28:24,780 --> 01:28:25,880
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: for the resolution.

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01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:26,040
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sure.

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01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,640
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Sa SC ngayon, yan, naka-pending.

1398
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:31,260
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Parang first

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01:28:31,260 --> 01:28:33,000
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: division po yan.

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01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,400
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: But, there is a motion

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01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,360
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: para mapunta sa NBANG.

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01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:38,400
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Alright.

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01:28:39,180 --> 01:28:41,500
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Because it is a question of

1404
01:28:41,500 --> 01:28:42,700
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: constitutionality po.

1405
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,400
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Yeah, I understand po. Mukhang may

1406
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,520
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: naging problema po talaga doon pa lang sa baba.

1407
01:28:48,020 --> 01:28:49,700
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Yung pagkatig po kagad ng judge

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01:28:49,700 --> 01:28:50,720
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: doon po sa kumpanya.

1409
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,680
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Anyway, I will reserve

1410
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,200
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: my second round of questioning.

1411
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:56,920
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: It's okay.

1412
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:58,260
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I just reserved my

1413
01:28:58,260 --> 01:29:01,560
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: second round lang, Mr. Chet, to give way to other

1414
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:02,860
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: senators or president.

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01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,020
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: And I would like to thank the Senate president

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01:29:05,020 --> 01:29:06,620
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: for allowing me to go ahead.

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01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, thank you. Just for the information

1418
01:29:09,540 --> 01:29:11,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of our colleagues and for the record,

1419
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:13,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the presiding judge

1420
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at that time,

1421
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and I understand he's now retired,

1422
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:19,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Branch 170,

1423
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:21,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: RTC Malabon,

1424
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:23,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Judge

1425
01:29:23,500 --> 01:29:24,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Zaldi Docena,

1426
01:29:24,860 --> 01:29:26,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for the record.

1427
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, we can now proceed

1428
01:29:30,020 --> 01:29:31,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with the questions of our Senate

1429
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: President. Go ahead,

1430
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:35,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senate President

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01:29:35,660 --> 01:29:36,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nguyen.

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01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:36,760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Mr.

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01:29:38,260 --> 01:29:38,660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Chairman.

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01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,780
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Mr. Chairman, let me start off with

1435
01:29:41,780 --> 01:29:44,000
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: something that will

1436
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: be

1437
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: hitting us

1438
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,420
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: or have already hit us.

1439
01:29:49,940 --> 01:29:51,800
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And this is El Nino, Mr. Secretary.

1440
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:51,920
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Secretary.

1441
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:55,960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I'll flash the slide.

1442
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:57,040
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Slide 25.

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01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,320
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So far...

1444
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: agricultural damage

1445
01:30:01,340 --> 01:30:03,900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: for El Nino or related to

1446
01:30:03,900 --> 01:30:05,640
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: El Nino is about

1447
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:06,740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 6.8

1448
01:30:06,740 --> 01:30:08,680
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: billion pesos

1449
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:12,040
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: of which about 163

1450
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,980
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: metric tons of

1451
01:30:13,980 --> 01:30:15,820
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: agricultural

1452
01:30:15,820 --> 01:30:18,220
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: products ang naapektuhan

1453
01:30:18,220 --> 01:30:19,840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: of which about

1454
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:21,840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 249 hectares ang

1455
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: naapektuhan itong

1456
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:27,820
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: El Nino. So this is so far palang

1457
01:30:27,820 --> 01:30:29,120
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: as of September 30

1458
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and as we can

1459
01:30:31,940 --> 01:30:33,120
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: actually all feel

1460
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,600
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: normally pag ganitong

1461
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: October maulan eh pero ngayon

1462
01:30:37,660 --> 01:30:38,680
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: hindi na umuulan

1463
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,280
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: pabugso-bugso na lang ang ulan

1464
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: so I would like to get a

1465
01:30:43,740 --> 01:30:45,840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: briefing from the good secretary

1466
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: on their

1467
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,580
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: forecast on El Nino

1468
01:30:49,580 --> 01:30:51,880
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: in relation to agriculture

1469
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,360
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and then

1470
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ano ang mga contingency

1471
01:30:55,900 --> 01:30:57,680
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: measures na ginagawa natin

1472
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and also

1473
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:00,940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: related to the budget

1474
01:31:00,940 --> 01:31:02,300
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ano ba yung mga

1475
01:31:02,300 --> 01:31:05,460
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: budgetary components

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01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:07,600
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: na makakatulong

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01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,860
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: maibsan yung

1478
01:31:09,860 --> 01:31:11,460
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: epekto ng El Nino sa

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01:31:11,460 --> 01:31:13,580
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: agriculture sector. We'll just focus on the

1480
01:31:13,580 --> 01:31:15,180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: agriculture sector. We're not

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01:31:15,180 --> 01:31:17,760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: yun ang ating topic

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01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:18,660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: on hand right now.

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01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:21,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, one question lang. Is it for

1484
01:31:21,460 --> 01:31:23,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 2026 or 2027?

1485
01:31:23,260 --> 01:31:25,120
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: For 2027. Onward.

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01:31:26,060 --> 01:31:27,480
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: The remaining year

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01:31:27,480 --> 01:31:29,060
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: until 2027.

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01:31:29,100 --> 01:31:30,380
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: According to

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01:31:30,380 --> 01:31:34,460
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Pag-asa, the weather forecaster

1490
01:31:34,460 --> 01:31:36,140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and some experts, it will persist

1491
01:31:36,140 --> 01:31:38,260
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: until mid of 2027.

1492
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:40,300
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But these things can change.

1493
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:41,940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Sabi nyo nga kanina sa opening statement,

1494
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:44,200
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: yung one thing the EA cannot do

1495
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:45,160
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: is predict the weather

1496
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,360
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: or stop the weather.

1497
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:48,960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So

1498
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: but let's take

1499
01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:54,060
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: the word of the forecasters

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01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:55,820
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: until mid of 2027

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01:31:55,820 --> 01:31:58,020
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and alam natin na

1502
01:31:58,020 --> 01:31:58,940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: one of the

1503
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:01,240
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: direct hit dito sa El Nino will be the

1504
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:03,120
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: agriculture sector. So just give us

1505
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:06,040
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: your forecast,

1506
01:32:06,260 --> 01:32:08,120
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: your forecast

1507
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:09,300
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: in terms of agricultural

1508
01:32:09,300 --> 01:32:11,740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: impact and then ano may

1509
01:32:11,740 --> 01:32:13,660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: mga mitigating measures

1510
01:32:13,660 --> 01:32:15,580
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and then also in the budget

1511
01:32:15,580 --> 01:32:18,040
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: what are the components in the budget

1512
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:19,660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: that will address the

1513
01:32:19,660 --> 01:32:21,380
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: impact of El Nino and

1514
01:32:21,380 --> 01:32:23,560
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: if you have any suggestions

1515
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,780
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: on what components also

1516
01:32:25,780 --> 01:32:27,820
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: we can improve so that we can

1517
01:32:27,820 --> 01:32:28,340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: further

1518
01:32:28,340 --> 01:32:31,100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: mitigate the impact of El Nino.

1519
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:33,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1520
01:32:33,500 --> 01:32:34,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Basically, El Nino

1521
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:36,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: will hit us.

1522
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:38,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang kasagsagan ng El Nino

1523
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:40,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ay nadelay na.

1524
01:32:40,580 --> 01:32:42,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nadelay nung una, November

1525
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:43,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dapat 2026.

1526
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then the latest forecast is

1527
01:32:46,180 --> 01:32:47,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na move siya ang January,

1528
01:32:48,620 --> 01:32:49,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: February and March

1529
01:32:49,820 --> 01:32:52,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maybe until April of next year.

1530
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So what the DA is

1531
01:32:54,420 --> 01:32:55,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: doing now is

1532
01:32:55,340 --> 01:32:58,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fast tracking yung aming deployment.

1533
01:32:58,340 --> 01:33:00,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So we have a lot of

1534
01:33:00,340 --> 01:33:01,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: solar water irrigation

1535
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: projects.

1536
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We had 1.6 billion

1537
01:33:06,140 --> 01:33:08,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: this year and mukhang madagdagan pa kami

1538
01:33:08,180 --> 01:33:10,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng OP. But for

1539
01:33:10,220 --> 01:33:12,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: next year, we are also requesting

1540
01:33:12,460 --> 01:33:14,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na madagdagan itong solar pumps,

1541
01:33:15,020 --> 01:33:15,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: solar

1542
01:33:15,380 --> 01:33:18,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: irrigation and for aquaculture

1543
01:33:18,340 --> 01:33:19,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: naman, mga solar driven

1544
01:33:19,940 --> 01:33:22,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: paddle wheels to keep the

1545
01:33:22,180 --> 01:33:22,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fishponds

1546
01:33:22,860 --> 01:33:25,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: aerated para

1547
01:33:25,140 --> 01:33:27,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mayroon pang oxygen ng isda para

1548
01:33:27,940 --> 01:33:28,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mabawa.

1549
01:33:28,340 --> 01:33:30,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pasa ng fish kill, pati sa mga lakes.

1550
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:31,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Besides that,

1551
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maa-affect ang poultry natin

1552
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:35,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dahil kung mainit ng panahon,

1553
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:37,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bumaba ba ang

1554
01:33:37,420 --> 01:33:40,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: production ng manok, baboy.

1555
01:33:41,780 --> 01:33:42,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Baboy usually

1556
01:33:42,740 --> 01:33:44,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pag summer mainit,

1557
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:46,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mas bawas ang ASF.

1558
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:48,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So it's a bit better. Problema lang sa

1559
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: baboy is yung presyo. At ayusin

1560
01:33:50,440 --> 01:33:51,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ho natin yan.

1561
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Water management is critical.

1562
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:56,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So we will

1563
01:33:56,420 --> 01:33:58,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: be doing alternate wet

1564
01:33:58,340 --> 01:34:00,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and dry systems sa ating mga

1565
01:34:00,220 --> 01:34:02,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in cooperation

1566
01:34:02,820 --> 01:34:04,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: with NIA to

1567
01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:06,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maximize the use of water.

1568
01:34:06,980 --> 01:34:08,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Of course, fertilizer support

1569
01:34:08,740 --> 01:34:10,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is badly needed.

1570
01:34:10,900 --> 01:34:11,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Dahil

1571
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa taas ng fertilizer ngayon,

1572
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kasi ano yan, as I said, perfect storm,

1573
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:17,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tabay ang problema.

1574
01:34:18,180 --> 01:34:20,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: The risk is under fertilization

1575
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dahil people cannot afford

1576
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fertilizer. Inbis na sampung

1577
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bag ng fertilizer, lagay sa isang

1578
01:34:26,480 --> 01:34:28,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hektarya dahil sa mahal ng fertilizer,

1579
01:34:28,340 --> 01:34:30,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: baka limang bag na lang

1580
01:34:30,380 --> 01:34:32,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang lagay ng ating mga magsasaka.

1581
01:34:33,220 --> 01:34:34,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That's why if the

1582
01:34:34,140 --> 01:34:36,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: government can give more fertilizers

1583
01:34:36,440 --> 01:34:38,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in forms of voucher

1584
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or cash para hindi na kami mag-procure,

1585
01:34:40,940 --> 01:34:42,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that would be the best at mabilis.

1586
01:34:43,100 --> 01:34:44,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So kung mabigyan kami ng

1587
01:34:44,380 --> 01:34:46,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: additional budget, kasi hindi naman sinatawag

1588
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng El Nino, walang tubig lahat.

1589
01:34:48,480 --> 01:34:50,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May areas din na maraming

1590
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tubig or meron tubig.

1591
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:53,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron lang talagang super dry.

1592
01:34:54,300 --> 01:34:56,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa areas na maraming tubig naman

1593
01:34:56,100 --> 01:34:58,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or may tubig pa, dun ho tayo magbubuhay.

1594
01:34:58,340 --> 01:35:00,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Most na mga fertilizer. Para dun naman

1595
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: increase ang production.

1596
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So that holds

1597
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: also for corn and other high value

1598
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: crops. Of course

1599
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: more money into

1600
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:12,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: small water impounding will

1601
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: really benefit

1602
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:16,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: our farmers and

1603
01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:18,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fisher folks. Even sa ponds,

1604
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pang palalim ng ponds, mga pond liners.

1605
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And these investments that we

1606
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:26,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: will make next year with the budget,

1607
01:35:27,300 --> 01:35:28,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ano na yan, that is getting,

1608
01:35:28,340 --> 01:35:30,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: our farmers and fisher folks

1609
01:35:30,420 --> 01:35:32,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ready para sa mga subsequent

1610
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: El Nino's. Kasi dumadalas

1611
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:36,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ho yan eh. Nung bata pa ako

1612
01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:38,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa fishing industry,

1613
01:35:38,940 --> 01:35:40,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: every 10 years lang ang El Nino.

1614
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:42,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then naging every 5,

1615
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:44,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 7, every 5, every 3 years.

1616
01:35:45,300 --> 01:35:46,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung pagpasok ko ho dito

1617
01:35:46,540 --> 01:35:47,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa DA,

1618
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:49,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 2023, November,

1619
01:35:50,220 --> 01:35:52,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 2024, El Nino kagadang

1620
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang simulubong

1621
01:35:54,540 --> 01:35:55,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ho sa akin. At

1622
01:35:55,420 --> 01:35:58,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 2027, El Nino na naman

1623
01:35:58,340 --> 01:36:00,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nasasalubong at mas malakas pa.

1624
01:36:00,260 --> 01:36:02,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So with all of that,

1625
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:04,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa production output

1626
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:05,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: naman, we expect na

1627
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:07,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 700,000 tons of

1628
01:36:07,820 --> 01:36:09,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: rice ang

1629
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mawawala, at least.

1630
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:14,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That's probably a million

1631
01:36:14,260 --> 01:36:16,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tons of pala, worst case scenario.

1632
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Plus meron pa tayo nabawasan na

1633
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 163,000

1634
01:36:22,860 --> 01:36:23,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tons as of now

1635
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dito sa losses for this

1636
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:27,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: year. So

1637
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:28,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we

1638
01:36:28,340 --> 01:36:29,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: would need

1639
01:36:29,140 --> 01:36:32,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 700,000 plus 163

1640
01:36:32,380 --> 01:36:34,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as of now, we would need an addition

1641
01:36:34,540 --> 01:36:36,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: of 863,000

1642
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:38,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tons of rice

1643
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: para

1644
01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:42,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ma-ensure na

1645
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may bigas tayo through this El Nino.

1646
01:36:45,780 --> 01:36:46,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Plus

1647
01:36:46,500 --> 01:36:48,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: strategic buffer stocks pa na kailangan.

1648
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:49,980
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1649
01:36:49,980 --> 01:36:52,380
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Secretary, itong nasa screen natin,

1650
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,080
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 163 metric

1651
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:56,760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: tons of agricultural losses.

1652
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:57,400
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ibig sabihin,

1653
01:36:58,340 --> 01:36:59,880
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: this will increase to times,

1654
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:01,960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: almost times 8

1655
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,240
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: from 160 to about

1656
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 800,000. So mga times 6.

1657
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:07,720
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 6 to 8.

1658
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:09,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

1659
01:37:09,540 --> 01:37:11,420
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kasi ito, ano pa lang ito, as of September.

1660
01:37:11,740 --> 01:37:13,140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Di pa, pasok pa lang ngayon, El Nino.

1661
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,400
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And then, dito sa

1662
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,320
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: this data

1663
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:19,440
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: came from the PSA,

1664
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,000
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 223,000

1665
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:23,220
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: farmers ang affected.

1666
01:37:23,860 --> 01:37:25,720
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So at the peak of El Nino,

1667
01:37:27,220 --> 01:37:27,340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ilan

1668
01:37:27,340 --> 01:37:29,620
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ang projected

1669
01:37:29,620 --> 01:37:32,200
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: agricultural losses na nakikita

1670
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:32,800
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ng department?

1671
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:37,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I don't have the total figures

1672
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: with me right now. Maybe I can ask

1673
01:37:40,060 --> 01:37:42,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa rice kasi yun na sa isip ko

1674
01:37:42,300 --> 01:37:43,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as of the moment.

1675
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,220
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ito is cumulative na ito.

1676
01:37:46,480 --> 01:37:46,900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Iba-iba.

1677
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:49,860
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Iba-ibang products.

1678
01:37:49,860 --> 01:37:53,560
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I think that is

1679
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: going to be the most

1680
01:37:56,140 --> 01:37:56,860
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: precipitative

1681
01:37:57,340 --> 01:37:58,900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: problem in the agriculture

1682
01:37:58,900 --> 01:37:59,720
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: itong El Nino.

1683
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So we want to understand kung ready ba

1684
01:38:02,940 --> 01:38:03,920
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: in department.

1685
01:38:04,860 --> 01:38:06,960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And kung hindi, how can we

1686
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:08,540
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: help the department to become ready

1687
01:38:08,540 --> 01:38:10,620
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: to respond to El Nino?

1688
01:39:23,500 --> 01:39:24,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair,

1689
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:35,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa 2023-2024 na total value lost natin was almost 16 billion ang nawala sa atin

1690
01:39:35,980 --> 01:39:39,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: during that relatively strong El Nino period.

1691
01:39:40,460 --> 01:39:45,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So with values up now and super El Nino ito,

1692
01:39:45,620 --> 01:39:50,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we expect siguro na baka umabot tayo ng 20 billion in losses.

1693
01:39:50,180 --> 01:40:00,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung volume lost in 2023-2024 that year is 828,000 metric tons

1694
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:05,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or almost 280,000 hectares affected.

1695
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:11,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So we expect na volume lost can reach up to a million tons.

1696
01:40:12,020 --> 01:40:16,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Area affected may reach about 350,000 hectares, Mr. Chair.

1697
01:40:20,180 --> 01:40:26,180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Secretary, narinig ko kanina sinabi nyo na based on experience ng DA,

1698
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:30,660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: during El Nino may mga areas na okay naman, umuulan.

1699
01:40:31,300 --> 01:40:34,660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: May mga areas na talagang tuyong-tuyo.

1700
01:40:34,780 --> 01:40:38,280
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: In fact, I know some provinces nag-declare na ng state of calamity

1701
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,580
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: because talagang hindi umuulan sa kanila.

1702
01:40:41,700 --> 01:40:44,000
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Meron pa ng mga forest fires.

1703
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:49,580
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So dito sa mga affected areas,

1704
01:40:50,180 --> 01:40:56,060
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ang projected farmers and fisher folks na maapektuhan ng El Nino.

1705
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:02,540
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Based on your projection.

1706
01:41:06,420 --> 01:41:11,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sir, Mr. Chair, base dito sa aking figures,

1707
01:41:11,340 --> 01:41:19,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: minimum of 2.795, 2.8 million farmers and fisher folks

1708
01:41:19,340 --> 01:41:20,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang maapektuhan ng El Nino.

1709
01:41:20,180 --> 01:41:23,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang mga mga apektuhan, individual yan, individual.

1710
01:41:25,660 --> 01:41:30,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pero worst case scenario, baka 4.6 million.

1711
01:41:32,180 --> 01:41:36,100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 4.6 million, that's almost, tingin-tingin ako yung slides nyo kanina.

1712
01:41:36,740 --> 01:41:38,460
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Halos lahat na yun, ha.

1713
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kasi 6.7 million farmers, eh.

1714
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:48,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yun yung worst case scenario namin, Mr. Chair.

1715
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:49,400
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: This is the worst case scenario.

1716
01:41:50,180 --> 01:42:02,540
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So about 4 million out of the 9.6 million employment in the farming and fishery.

1717
01:42:02,540 --> 01:42:03,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 10.4, Mr. Chair.

1718
01:42:03,380 --> 01:42:05,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nasa RSVSA lang.

1719
01:42:06,100 --> 01:42:06,980
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So halos kalahati.

1720
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:09,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yeah, halos kalahati, Mr. Chair.

1721
01:42:09,380 --> 01:42:10,120
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Halos kalahati.

1722
01:42:10,700 --> 01:42:17,320
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Looking at the budget, alam ko itong nag-uusap nga kami ni Chairman Kiko,

1723
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,320
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: yung presidential assistance.

1724
01:42:20,180 --> 01:42:21,760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: To farmers and fisher folks.

1725
01:42:22,260 --> 01:42:25,180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Of which, parang every year, nalalagay naman yun.

1726
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:29,100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Pero ang nakakapagtaka sa NEP, hindi nalalagay ng budget.

1727
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:31,320
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ina-augment na lang ng Congress.

1728
01:42:31,480 --> 01:42:33,340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Like last time, na-augment ng 10 billion.

1729
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:38,260
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I understand, dito sa GAB, na-augment ulit, no?

1730
01:42:38,300 --> 01:42:39,140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: To 10 billion.

1731
01:42:39,620 --> 01:42:42,740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So aside from, itong 10 billion, I would assume,

1732
01:42:42,860 --> 01:42:47,060
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: is also geared towards helping the 4 million farmers.

1733
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:47,640
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Tama po ba?

1734
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:48,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

1735
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:49,520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And how do, how...

1736
01:42:50,180 --> 01:42:53,600
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Paano makakatulong itong PAF, in presidential assistance,

1737
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:59,760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: itong worst case scenario na 4 million farmers maapektuhan natin?

1738
01:42:59,860 --> 01:43:04,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Well, Mr. Chair, yung presidential assistance to farmers and fisher folks,

1739
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:09,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that is basically cash assistance, direct cash assistance to our farmers who are affected.

1740
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:14,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Of course, sarami ngayon ang affected at 4.6 million.

1741
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:15,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Medyo maliit yan.

1742
01:43:15,900 --> 01:43:19,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But nag-uusap po kami sa kabinete.

1743
01:43:20,180 --> 01:43:24,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: With other, like Secretary of DOLE, Secretary of DSWD,

1744
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:32,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na we're pooling now our funds para nga kung may tinamaan ng El Nino na hindi na talaga makatanim

1745
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:35,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at walang trabaho.

1746
01:43:36,540 --> 01:43:41,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So may cash assistance, may food packs, may tupad,

1747
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or maybe canal making or land preparation.

1748
01:43:45,420 --> 01:43:49,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So ganun ho ngayon yung diskarte namin.

1749
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:54,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And moving forward to address para hindi yung dekahunt kaming lahat.

1750
01:43:54,440 --> 01:43:55,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So kung saan kailangan,

1751
01:43:56,220 --> 01:44:02,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kagaya yung may El Nino sa Camarines Norte na may tinamaan na area na doon,

1752
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:06,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na binanggit namin kay Sec. Rex Gachelian,

1753
01:44:07,020 --> 01:44:13,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nagpadala ko kagad ng assistance ang DSWD in forms of cash din sa kanya dahil meron silang pondo.

1754
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasi mas mabilis mag-respond at mag-replenish ang DSWD.

1755
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:19,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So parang ganun na ho yung...

1756
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:28,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: While 10 billion na PATH na ninalagay natin namin for 2027 sa direct cash assistance,

1757
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:33,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: meron na kami access ngayon sa DSWD through them,

1758
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:35,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tsaka sa DOLI rin.

1759
01:44:35,440 --> 01:44:37,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So yun ho yung mas magandang sistema namin ngayon.

1760
01:44:38,980 --> 01:44:46,700
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Later on, meron kaming ginawang special committee for economic recovery.

1761
01:44:46,700 --> 01:44:48,960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And we included, si Majority Leader Migs,

1762
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: include niya na rin doon yung El Nino.

1763
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:58,520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So hingi kami ng detailed briefing on the government's response to El Nino.

1764
01:44:58,520 --> 01:44:59,840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kasi...

1765
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:00,680
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: padating na siya eh.

1766
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:09,280
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And it can be as worse as the Iran conflict in which yung presyo ng langis tumaas.

1767
01:45:09,740 --> 01:45:16,340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ito naman, triple whammy. Wala ka ng trabaho, wala ka ng output, wala pa tayong makakain.

1768
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:23,700
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So we really need to make sure na ang gobyerno ay handa pagdating sa El Nino.

1769
01:45:23,700 --> 01:45:29,720
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And so far, narinig ko kanina sa inyong briefing na meron na kayong parang whole of government approach.

1770
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:34,800
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: To conserve resources between DOLE, DSWD, and DA.

1771
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:40,140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ganun ba ang approach, Secretary, to itong mga vulnerable sectors?

1772
01:45:40,480 --> 01:45:52,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair. Not only that, pati sa DOH, meron din tayong collaborative with DOLE, DOH, DSWD, and maybe other agencies pa.

1773
01:45:52,380 --> 01:45:59,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: OCD pala, pati sa OCD under the DND.

1774
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:09,060
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Aside from PAF, what other components in the budget na gagamitin ninyo to respond to El Nino?

1775
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:18,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron din tayo, Mr. Chair, fuel assistance, of course, some fertilizer support, seed support, and transport support, no?

1776
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:29,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung logistic support na, like sa tollways, meron tayong mga agreement, and hopefully we can get more funding for that, among others, Mr. Chair.

1777
01:46:29,340 --> 01:46:29,400
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you.

1778
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:33,460
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So that's embedded already in the budget ng DA?

1779
01:46:33,460 --> 01:46:34,260
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yes, Mr. Chair.

1780
01:46:34,620 --> 01:46:35,960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, thank you.

1781
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:46,240
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And on a detailed submission na lang, pakisubmit na lang, Secretary, yung DA's response to the El Nino.

1782
01:46:47,060 --> 01:46:47,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

1783
01:46:47,900 --> 01:46:55,700
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I'll jump to another topic, Secretary, and ito na pag-usapan natin last year, yung farm-to-market roads.

1784
01:46:55,980 --> 01:46:59,900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And for 2026, yung farm-to-market roads.

1785
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:15,940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yung farm-to-market roads, nabigay, o tinransfer namin ni Senator Kiko, siya being the chairman of the budget of the DA, to the Department of Agriculture instead of the Department of Public Works.

1786
01:47:16,540 --> 01:47:24,080
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But nakita ko dito sa utilization for 2026, hindi pa siya nai-utilize to date.

1787
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:28,080
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, may we get a briefing on...

1788
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:43,260
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Tapos yung concept na yun, tinransfer natin sa DA, and then second, base dito sa aming report, doon sa 33 billion na farm-to-market roads, wala pang nagagawa for 2026.

1789
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:51,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before you answer, just to place on record, we'd like to acknowledge the presence of our minority leader, Senator Alan Cayetano.

1790
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:52,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you.

1791
01:47:53,700 --> 01:47:54,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, please.

1792
01:47:54,900 --> 01:47:56,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

1793
01:47:57,540 --> 01:47:58,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa FMR...

1794
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:11,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May transfer na ho sa amin yan, at may mga conditions under the GAAD for the transfer that we had to set up several offices, you know, get more people together.

1795
01:48:11,380 --> 01:48:13,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May delay kami sa requesting of SARO.

1796
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:20,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But of course, na-request naman yung SARO namin, I think, by mid-year this year.

1797
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:24,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then, yung pera, dumating din lang September.

1798
01:48:24,820 --> 01:48:28,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At then, nung binigay sa amin yung pera ng September,

1799
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:34,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it's an end of a quarter that we had to give it back, no?

1800
01:48:34,380 --> 01:48:35,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung pondo.

1801
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:39,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At inire-release lang ulit ngayon yung pondo sa amin this October.

1802
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:46,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But on the positive note naman, Mr. Chair, we're ready to bid now.

1803
01:48:47,420 --> 01:48:53,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At finally, matutuloy na ho yung implementation ng FMR natin for 2026.

1804
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:57,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And for 2027, pag na-approve na ho sa BICAM na yan,

1805
01:48:58,680 --> 01:48:59,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we will be doing...

1806
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:08,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pre-procurement basis sa NEP and short of award

1807
01:49:08,440 --> 01:49:14,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: so that magmapabilis namin yung implementation yan sa 2027 also, Mr. Chair.

1808
01:49:14,940 --> 01:49:23,340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Itong 33 billion na FMR, kaka-transfer lang sa inyo, kaka-release lang ng SARO itong September?

1809
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:28,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Actually, ang na-release lang sa amin is 4.2 billion, Mr. Chair.

1810
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:29,600
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 4.2 billion.

1811
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:30,640
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So may...

1812
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:32,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nung September.

1813
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:37,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tapos binalik namin yan, we had to return it dahil may end of the month cut-off kami.

1814
01:49:38,420 --> 01:49:44,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then binalik naman sa amin by this October lang yung 18 billion out of the 33, Mr. Chair.

1815
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:45,180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Okay.

1816
01:49:45,700 --> 01:49:48,580
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So magkano na ang na-release for 2026 lang?

1817
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:49,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 18...

1818
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:52,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 23 billion na pala.

1819
01:49:52,460 --> 01:49:53,740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 23 billion. Okay.

1820
01:49:53,740 --> 01:49:59,980
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And doon sa special provisions in which si Sen. Kiko ang nagsulat nun,

1821
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:08,520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: may mga requirements, for example, yung transparency, ilalagay sa portal, ilalagay sa website.

1822
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,880
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ito ba ay naka-ayos na?

1823
01:50:12,260 --> 01:50:16,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, naka-setup na ho at ready to go.

1824
01:50:16,700 --> 01:50:24,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So now, the challenge, nandito na yung challenge namin na maayos to at nakita na lahat ng tao how we perform.

1825
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:29,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And I have required actually our team sa DA to give a monthly report.

1826
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:39,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: To me, on the status of each and every project with pictures, which I will also copy the committee chairman, Mr. Chair.

1827
01:50:39,460 --> 01:50:42,140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: In fact, during the last hearing, it was a challenge to you.

1828
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:46,980
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Dahil doon sa DPWH, iba-iba yung presyo.

1829
01:50:46,980 --> 01:50:58,520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But I remember during that time, you said the DA can construct it more efficiently and much cheaper through the BAFE.

1830
01:50:59,280 --> 01:50:59,900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ito ba ang BAFE?

1831
01:50:59,900 --> 01:51:05,140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I, ano ba ito, na-increase ba yung capacity nila?

1832
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:12,080
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kasi yun rin yung isang worry namin, baka mabulunan yung BAFE, DA BAFE.

1833
01:51:12,460 --> 01:51:15,400
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Have you already capacitated yung BAFE?

1834
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:20,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Well, we have increased its capacity but not enough, Mr. Chair.

1835
01:51:20,620 --> 01:51:23,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But it will be a challenge.

1836
01:51:24,260 --> 01:51:28,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's not, hindi ito magiging madali but we will do our best.

1837
01:51:28,780 --> 01:51:42,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We assigned a special undersecretary just to look into all of this team para may nakatutok na 100% so that we do it properly.

1838
01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:48,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa presyo naman, at that time, we can make it lower.

1839
01:51:48,340 --> 01:51:58,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: As of now, bumalik kami sa original considering naman na prices of everything has gone.

1840
01:51:58,780 --> 01:51:59,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Much, much higher.

1841
01:52:00,420 --> 01:52:06,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But we were able to maintain yung dating presyo at 15 million per kilometer

1842
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:10,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: which even yung contractor, sinasabi, medyo maliit na yung margin nila

1843
01:52:10,900 --> 01:52:19,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but payag naman na kailangan lahat ng trabaho at kailangan ng projects naman ng mga contractors.

1844
01:52:19,700 --> 01:52:28,620
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So for normal, on a normal condition, 15 million per kilometer pa ba ang cost?

1845
01:52:28,620 --> 01:52:30,380
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Nang farm-to-market roads?

1846
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:32,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa ngayon, yun ang tamang cost na yun.

1847
01:52:32,500 --> 01:52:33,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yun ang tamang cost.

1848
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:39,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Of course, as you inspected, may iba nasa Bangil, di ba?

1849
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:43,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But on the average, assuming all things equal, 15 million ang cost.

1850
01:52:43,100 --> 01:52:44,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yan yung average, Mr. Chair.

1851
01:52:44,620 --> 01:52:45,220
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yan ang average.

1852
01:52:45,700 --> 01:52:47,240
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1853
01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:51,180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I'll just ask some more questions on my second round.

1854
01:52:51,380 --> 01:52:52,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, thank you.

1855
01:52:54,060 --> 01:52:57,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator JV, Chairman of the Committee,

1856
01:52:58,620 --> 01:52:59,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: please, you have the floor.

1857
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:02,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1858
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:06,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Good morning to Secretary Laurel, the DA family.

1859
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:10,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: This was asked earlier, no, ng ating po, Senate President,

1860
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:17,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung tungkol po sa Presidential Assistance to Farmers and Fisher Folk Program,

1861
01:53:17,380 --> 01:53:19,140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: being the Chair of the Committee on Finance,

1862
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:23,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I noticed, as pointed out by our Senate President,

1863
01:53:23,340 --> 01:53:28,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: wala po ito sa NEP, but it was included in the House,

1864
01:53:28,620 --> 01:53:31,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: HGAB, or General Appropriations Bill from the House,

1865
01:53:31,940 --> 01:53:32,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sa 10 billion.

1866
01:53:33,540 --> 01:53:40,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Just want to ask, did the agency request it for this?

1867
01:53:40,780 --> 01:53:43,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: O ang house ang naglagay nito?

1868
01:53:45,020 --> 01:53:45,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes.

1869
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nung pinapareho namin yung aming NEP, Mr. Chair,

1870
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:54,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we were given kasi a cap, fiscal cap.

1871
01:53:54,940 --> 01:53:58,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, hindi namin sinama yung PAF initially,

1872
01:53:58,620 --> 01:54:00,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa NEP request namin,

1873
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:06,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but sa Congress, even actually sa Senate,

1874
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:09,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: i-request namin talaga na may dagdag yan,

1875
01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:11,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dahil nga, it's the looming El Nino.

1876
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:14,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, kung madadagdagan pa yan, would be better,

1877
01:54:14,620 --> 01:54:17,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but then, pwede rin naman dagdagan yun sa DSWD,

1878
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:19,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: o kaya doon sa TUPAD,

1879
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:21,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that's unnecessary sa amin,

1880
01:54:21,660 --> 01:54:23,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kasi nga, now we're working together naman eh.

1881
01:54:24,140 --> 01:54:26,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But we really have to prepare for El Nino,

1882
01:54:26,500 --> 01:54:28,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lalo na sa ating farmers and fisher folk.

1883
01:54:28,620 --> 01:54:29,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1884
01:54:29,900 --> 01:54:34,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Well, actually, when I first reviewed the HGAB,

1885
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:39,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nakita ko kasi, I got worried that the fund for the NDRMC,

1886
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:43,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for the calamity fund, natanggal na 9.5 billion,

1887
01:54:44,340 --> 01:54:46,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but I saw this is a new entry.

1888
01:54:47,260 --> 01:54:55,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But when you said also na tingin din namin na para naman ito siguro,

1889
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:57,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: direct assistance to farmers and fisher folk,

1890
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:00,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: in anticipation of El Nino, okay din kami.

1891
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:05,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And I agree with the House on this matter especially,

1892
01:55:05,900 --> 01:55:09,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pero doon sa iba, medyo may mga ayusin pa namin,

1893
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:10,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: may hindi kami isang ayon,

1894
01:55:10,940 --> 01:55:13,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but with this, with your endorsement also,

1895
01:55:14,220 --> 01:55:18,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: tsaka kanina, napaliwanag yun naman kung paano nyo ito gagamitin,

1896
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:22,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: in anticipation of the super El Nino.

1897
01:55:23,380 --> 01:55:26,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Although NIA is not anymore under the Department of Agriculture,

1898
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:27,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we had the...

1899
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:29,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we already heard their budget.

1900
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:32,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang earlier you mentioned,

1901
01:55:32,740 --> 01:55:34,520
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: si Katari, nabanggit mo kanina yung ano, no?

1902
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:35,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: More irrigation is needed.

1903
01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:37,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But I...

1904
01:55:37,780 --> 01:55:38,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I...

1905
01:55:38,940 --> 01:55:43,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I propose to NIA to concentrate more on water impounding

1906
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:50,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and retention projects in the coming years, no?

1907
01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:53,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because every time, every rainy season,

1908
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:56,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sobra-sobra yung ulan natin.

1909
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:57,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya lang,

1910
01:55:57,720 --> 01:55:59,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: toyo talagang walang-wala.

1911
01:55:59,660 --> 01:56:00,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, parang sabi ko,

1912
01:56:00,780 --> 01:56:02,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: if we continue on doing...

1913
01:56:02,900 --> 01:56:05,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: on adding more irrigation,

1914
01:56:05,740 --> 01:56:07,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: makadals and others,

1915
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:10,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pero kung wala naman dadaloy na tubig, sayang din.

1916
01:56:11,140 --> 01:56:13,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, yun lang.

1917
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:17,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: While you just like to ask for your opinion or position on this,

1918
01:56:18,380 --> 01:56:20,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: do you think this will be a better choice?

1919
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:23,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because I think we'll be hitting two birds with one stone here.

1920
01:56:23,620 --> 01:56:24,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We'll be providing irrigation.

1921
01:56:24,980 --> 01:56:27,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We will be mitigating flood also.

1922
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:30,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, it will be for flood mitigation.

1923
01:56:31,100 --> 01:56:35,600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: At the same time, we will have the needed water during the dry days,

1924
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:37,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: especially now na meron tayo mga...

1925
01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:39,120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung ilin ninyo na, as mentioned earlier,

1926
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:40,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nagiging every three years na.

1927
01:56:41,140 --> 01:56:43,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Instead of the usual, sabi nyo kanina, ten years,

1928
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:43,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nagiging five years.

1929
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:53,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, would you also endorse or suggest that we pursue that direction

1930
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:56,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of having more impounding, having more...

1931
01:56:57,720 --> 01:56:59,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dams in water retention facilities?

1932
01:57:00,140 --> 01:57:01,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

1933
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:06,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Along that, pati aquaculture will thrive, sir.

1934
01:57:06,940 --> 01:57:10,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Definitely, nung pumasok ako, Mr. Chair, sa DA,

1935
01:57:11,380 --> 01:57:14,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I already mentioned to many na

1936
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:17,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we are actually throwing away water.

1937
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:20,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang lipis ho ng Pilipinas.

1938
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:24,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung ang Palawan, mas manipis pa.

1939
01:57:25,100 --> 01:57:27,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung humulan ho sa gitna ng Palawan,

1940
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:32,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang tubig na ulan na yun, in 12 hours na sa dagat na.

1941
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:35,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa Luzon naman, ang calculation ko,

1942
01:57:36,100 --> 01:57:39,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung humulan sa gitna ng Luzon, kung may linya sa gitna,

1943
01:57:39,980 --> 01:57:44,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng malakas, in 48 hours na sa dagat na yung tubig na yan.

1944
01:57:45,220 --> 01:57:46,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tapon ho yun.

1945
01:57:46,340 --> 01:57:50,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung lalagyan ho natin ng halaga yung tubig na humulan

1946
01:57:50,220 --> 01:57:54,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at napunta sa dagat,

1947
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:57,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I computed it at 500 billion pesos a year yun.

1948
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:01,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: A worth of water ang tinatapon natin.

1949
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:06,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, ang ganda ho ng inyong push, Senator JV, Mr. Chair,

1950
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:12,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and I fully support na kailangan talaga natin ng warm water impounding.

1951
01:58:12,940 --> 01:58:16,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We have so much water to impound and we should impound it.

1952
01:58:17,300 --> 01:58:21,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And NIA, in my opinion, should concentrate on the big ticket items

1953
01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:26,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: like dams, water impounding, and all the major canals

1954
01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:27,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and water impounding.

1955
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:31,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Water waste for our agriculture, Mr. Chair.

1956
01:58:31,900 --> 01:58:33,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you for that, Secretary Laurel.

1957
01:58:33,860 --> 01:58:36,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Likewise, even DPWH, Secretary Dizon,

1958
01:58:37,060 --> 01:58:45,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I also suggested that instead of us concentrating on this flood mitigation project,

1959
01:58:45,780 --> 01:58:47,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or dating flood control, flood mitigation,

1960
01:58:48,020 --> 01:58:50,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: para nangyari sisementohan lahat ng ano,

1961
01:58:51,460 --> 01:58:53,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: lahat na pwedeng simentohan nating water waste,

1962
01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:56,120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: para mawala lahat ng tubig, ma-push back,

1963
01:58:56,340 --> 01:58:57,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nangyayari,

1964
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:00,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: wibilis lang yung takbo ng tubig para itapon.

1965
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:01,600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Di ba?

1966
01:59:01,900 --> 01:59:02,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Hindi pa na,

1967
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:05,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: hindi pa na reprelish yung groundwater,

1968
01:59:05,980 --> 01:59:07,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung aquifer natin.

1969
01:59:07,140 --> 01:59:07,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Di ba?

1970
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:08,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Nadideplete pa.

1971
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:09,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's why we have sinkholes.

1972
01:59:09,820 --> 01:59:12,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, I think this has to be the,

1973
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:15,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dapat magkaroon ng convergence ang NIA and DPWH

1974
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:16,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: so that we will have,

1975
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:19,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we will be preserving,

1976
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:22,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we will be retaining more water on dry days.

1977
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:24,520
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, thank you for your opinion.

1978
01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:27,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'm happy that you support this,

1979
01:59:27,820 --> 01:59:30,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and thank you for your support and for the direction.

1980
01:59:30,900 --> 01:59:33,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sabi ko kaya yung mga sabo dams,

1981
01:59:33,140 --> 01:59:36,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dapat ganoon siguring gawin natin from the upland.

1982
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:38,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We are cascading,

1983
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:40,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: mapabagal yung takbo ng tubig,

1984
01:59:40,940 --> 01:59:41,600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pero we retain.

1985
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:42,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tama, may aquaculture,

1986
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:44,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: maraming pwedeng gawin for tourism

1987
01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:49,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and even for, of course, for irrigation.

1988
01:59:50,140 --> 01:59:51,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And just like to assume,

1989
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:53,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: because of our fiscal space,

1990
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:55,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: very tightly in our fiscal space,

1991
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:57,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: normally most of the agencies,

1992
01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:59,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: really suffered budget.

1993
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:05,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: As Chairman of the Committee of Finance, siguro basic lang, Secretary.

1994
02:00:07,460 --> 02:00:15,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Which of the programs would you appeal that be funded, na dapat ituloy?

1995
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:19,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because yung halimbawa, pati bare minimum na rin na kailangan nyo sana,

1996
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:25,140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I would like to find out, na increase in budget, kasi nga napakasikip.

1997
02:00:25,140 --> 02:00:30,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Very, ano tayong elbow room natin, but then again, we would like to find out as Chairman of Finance,

1998
02:00:30,180 --> 02:00:39,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na we do not want the productivity of the Department of Agriculture to be affected.

1999
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:48,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So siguro yung dalang, just briefly, which programs would you suggest that we really prioritize?

2000
02:00:50,020 --> 02:00:54,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siyempre, ganito naman yung budgetary, pang-appellate to sa mga tapyas,

2001
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:58,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: para maidagdago natin, so that we would consider.

2002
02:00:58,740 --> 02:01:05,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anyway, the Vice Chair of Finance, Francis Pangilinan, will recommend, pero siguro,

2003
02:01:05,140 --> 02:01:14,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but probably could already brief us today, kung ano po yung mga major programs that you think that would lead,

2004
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:20,140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung hindi pwedeng mawala, kung bagas sa inyong plano next, sa susunod na taon.

2005
02:01:22,020 --> 02:01:23,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, thank you.

2006
02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:28,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yan nga namin yung expanded fertilizer assistance of about 8.7B,

2007
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:35,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and yung mga hybrid solar-powered pump irrigation system,

2008
02:01:35,300 --> 02:01:41,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: irrigation systems for fish production, retarding basin, basically for water impounding din talaga,

2009
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:43,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung mga SWIP projects namin.

2010
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:49,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron din kami yung request na sa masagana agri-food infrastructure modernization,

2011
02:01:50,140 --> 02:01:53,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mga post-harvest facilities, dahil nga, lalo na pag El Nino,

2012
02:01:54,720 --> 02:02:00,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may pagtataguan at madry at for milling, among others.

2013
02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:05,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Marami pang iba, but we will submit the list, Mr. Chair,

2014
02:02:05,580 --> 02:02:09,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: para for your guidance and to the good Senator J.B. Ejercito. Thank you, sir.

2015
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:12,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you for that.

2016
02:02:12,580 --> 02:02:17,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sige, we'll just, we'll review also, yung inyong listahan.

2017
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:19,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 24 billion.

2018
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:22,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Wala, medyo 24 billion.

2019
02:02:22,160 --> 02:02:23,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung mga, yung mga,

2020
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:28,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang medyo malaki, pero we'll do our best, no?

2021
02:02:28,620 --> 02:02:30,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siyempre, ayaw naman nating mawala, no?

2022
02:02:31,280 --> 02:02:36,100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because I think, yung itong Middle East crisis have taught us lesson,

2023
02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:41,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na talaga, we really have to strengthen our food security and yung self-reliance, no?

2024
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:46,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And then, siguro, pwede din tayo magtanong sa, sa BFAR is here, BFAR,

2025
02:02:47,820 --> 02:02:48,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sir Saldy Perez.

2026
02:02:48,940 --> 02:02:53,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Just like to ask, continues naman yung ating, yung ating po,

2027
02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:58,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: fisher folks, especially in the disputed areas, no?

2028
02:02:58,920 --> 02:03:02,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Can you, ano, can you just briefly, ano na, kung paano yung operation po natin doon?

2029
02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:05,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: How many vessels are assigned?

2030
02:03:06,300 --> 02:03:07,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: How many personnel?

2031
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:16,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: How many liters of gasoline are being distributed to our fisher folks in this area,

2032
02:03:16,860 --> 02:03:18,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dun sa West Philippine Sea area?

2033
02:03:18,820 --> 02:03:20,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you.

2034
02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:33,120
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: To our, ah, Chair, Sir Francis Mangilinan.

2035
02:03:33,160 --> 02:03:35,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Director Salilig.

2036
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:37,720
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Members of the Committee, Colleagues of the Government,

2037
02:03:38,340 --> 02:03:41,960
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: ang aming good secretary, ang gandang tanghali.

2038
02:03:42,760 --> 02:03:51,240
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: The Bureau of Fisheries, we continue to support to our, especially sa fuel subsidy,

2039
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:53,240
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: ah, for...

2040
02:03:54,800 --> 02:04:02,820
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: piskalyer 2025 ah, namigay po kami ng 11,894

2041
02:04:02,820 --> 02:04:13,500
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: ah, na mga fisher folks po ang nakatanggap and then using fuel card, 11, 172 for fuel voucher.

2042
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:20,400
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ah, we have seven hundred twenty-two and then ang target namin doon sa piskalyer 2025,

2043
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:27,200
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: At least 23,504 na mga fisherfolk yung po ay mga motorized bangka.

2044
02:04:28,100 --> 02:04:34,820
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: In addition, nagbigay po yung ating magiting na presidente ng 1 billion.

2045
02:04:34,820 --> 02:04:47,860
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yun po ay nakabigay kami ng 11,172 na mga fisherfolk through using fuel cards and boat charts.

2046
02:04:47,860 --> 02:05:08,100
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Until now, ang ongoing po ang aming distribution para ma-reach po ang ating mga target beneficiaries in addition to 105,126 fisherfolk beneficiaries are expected to receive our uplift funded fuel assistance program before the end of December 2026.

2047
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:17,140
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: So, all in all, ang aming budget is sa mag-end of December 2026, we have 1 billion.

2048
02:05:17,860 --> 02:05:22,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ilang beses po ang ano dyan? May naka-assign yung beses dyan?

2049
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:27,860
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yes, Mr. Chair. Mayroon po tayong...

2050
02:05:27,860 --> 02:05:39,100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because with the continued harassment of our fishermen in the West Philippine Sea by the Chinese Coast Guard and militia,

2051
02:05:39,100 --> 02:05:47,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of course, we want to find out what concrete assistance DA and the BFAR is providing to our communities.

2052
02:05:47,860 --> 02:05:49,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung period dyan.

2053
02:05:55,860 --> 02:05:57,600
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Sorry, sorry.

2054
02:05:58,660 --> 02:05:59,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung period dyan.

2055
02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:03,880
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Mr. Chair, sanday lang ha.

2056
02:06:04,580 --> 02:06:05,860
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Hinaarap ko pa yung...

2057
02:06:09,500 --> 02:06:15,400
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: With the indulgence of our National Director,

2058
02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:17,840
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: we deployed 30-meter vests.

2059
02:06:17,860 --> 02:06:20,860
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: And 50-meter vessels po in the West Philippine Sea.

2060
02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:34,620
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: And then we provided as well boats or fishing boats to our fisher folk for regions 1, 3, and 4B.

2061
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:44,660
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: So, and then we provided po yung fuel subsidy for all those fisher folk operating on those area, Mr. Chair.

2062
02:06:44,660 --> 02:06:47,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Is that daily?

2063
02:06:47,860 --> 02:06:53,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sabi ko, nagdarasyon tayo ng fuel or may schedule po yan?

2064
02:06:54,000 --> 02:07:01,620
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Yung fuel po namin, Mr. Chair, bali po, dun lang po sa available na pondo po natin.

2065
02:07:01,740 --> 02:07:11,600
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: But right now, it's good news po that we have this 1 billion pesos for our uplift to be distributed to our fisher folk po.

2066
02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:16,600
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: So, including po yung those fisher folk operating in regions...

2067
02:07:17,860 --> 02:07:21,200
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: 1, 3, and 4B, Mr. Chair.

2068
02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:24,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pero yun pa rin ang ano, no?

2069
02:07:24,360 --> 02:07:27,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That is still one of the richest in marine resources, to.

2070
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:29,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya talagang...

2071
02:07:29,660 --> 02:07:31,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Doon talaga nangingisahan to.

2072
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:38,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pero is it true that, ano, almost 21,000 acres of coral reefs already are sa West Philippine Sea area?

2073
02:07:38,900 --> 02:07:40,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ano na, nasira na?

2074
02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:42,660
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Do you have any news?

2075
02:07:42,660 --> 02:07:45,600
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: With that, Your Honor, we don't have the assessment yet.

2076
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:47,600
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: But, of course, with the...

2077
02:07:47,860 --> 02:07:51,780
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: deployment of our vessel, we can...

2078
02:07:51,780 --> 02:07:53,360
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: pretty sure that we can assess the area.

2079
02:07:53,940 --> 02:07:58,180
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: But, of course, considering that there's no harassment at all, Mr. Chair.

2080
02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:04,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Actually, I want to ask naman sa farm-to-market roads.

2081
02:08:07,120 --> 02:08:11,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: For 2013, the DA is proposing 16 billion for farm-to-market roads.

2082
02:08:11,480 --> 02:08:16,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Bawat taon, iniulat kung ilang kilometre na kalsada ang natapos.

2083
02:08:17,860 --> 02:08:20,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sa kanatilang magsasakaba talaga ang nakikinabang.

2084
02:08:20,380 --> 02:08:25,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, taon-taon din kasi may mga balita pa rin tukol sa mga gulay at iba pang ani na nabubulok

2085
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:29,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: at tinatapo na lang at hindi maibenta sa maayos na presyo.

2086
02:08:30,020 --> 02:08:32,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, malaki yung papel ng middleman.

2087
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:34,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, question.

2088
02:08:34,580 --> 02:08:38,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, for next year, sa farm-to-market road,

2089
02:08:38,020 --> 02:08:46,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: how many kilometres is ang natin ang intended to construct for next year?

2090
02:08:47,860 --> 02:08:50,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, yung sa 16 billion, 16 billion na ba?

2091
02:08:50,600 --> 02:09:01,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, yung sa 16 billion na yun, 1,100, almost 1,100 kilometres, sir, ang farm-to-market road.

2092
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:10,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And, also, I'd like to touch on yung sa cold storage, Secretary.

2093
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:16,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: In 2025, the cold storage expansion project reported disbursed only 1.4% of its

2094
02:09:17,860 --> 02:09:18,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: allocation.

2095
02:09:18,620 --> 02:09:22,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, of course, alam nyo naman ngayon, masikip.

2096
02:09:22,500 --> 02:09:28,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, we would, we want to make sure that this is all utilized and dispersed, yung mga pondo.

2097
02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:33,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ayaw natin maglagay ng hindi magagamit ngayon dahil nga sa sikip.

2098
02:09:34,160 --> 02:09:38,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, what caused the delays and how many cold storage facilities have actually been completed

2099
02:09:38,620 --> 02:09:40,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and made operational?

2100
02:09:41,240 --> 02:09:43,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, siguro, yun muna.

2101
02:09:43,020 --> 02:09:47,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I admit that we had a slow start.

2102
02:09:47,860 --> 02:09:53,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa aming mga cold storage projects due to technical design issues.

2103
02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:59,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But, fortunately, tamang-tama lang po yung tanong ninyo.

2104
02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:05,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tuloy-tuloy na namin inaugurate yung mga cold storage facilities na tinatayo.

2105
02:10:05,560 --> 02:10:15,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Actually, I was just in Camarines Sur and we turned over four setups already.

2106
02:10:16,500 --> 02:10:17,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Earlier this year, we inaugurated.

2107
02:10:17,860 --> 02:10:21,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We inaugurated our first mega cold storage in Pili, Kamsur.

2108
02:10:22,020 --> 02:10:26,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa Taguig na cold storage natin should be completed by middle of next year.

2109
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:31,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Cabanatuan will be, mega cold storage will be completed by next year.

2110
02:10:32,340 --> 02:10:35,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: San Jose, Mindoro, and ano pa isa?

2111
02:10:36,180 --> 02:10:38,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang malaking bagay for the onions, ano?

2112
02:10:38,020 --> 02:10:40,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: San Jose, Mindoro, isang mega.

2113
02:10:41,200 --> 02:10:42,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tsaka, ano yung katabi niya?

2114
02:10:43,620 --> 02:10:45,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa Sablayan, Mindoro also.

2115
02:10:46,360 --> 02:10:47,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa Manolo Fortich.

2116
02:10:47,860 --> 02:10:50,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa Sablayan lang, magtatayo rin tayo ng isang cold storage na malaki.

2117
02:10:51,240 --> 02:10:59,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At total modular cold storage natin is about 70 units of which tuloy-tuloy na ho yung turnover niya.

2118
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:13,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, pumilis na ho at I'm happy to note that medyo yung farmer beneficiaries natin quite happy na meron na silang solar powered and wind powered battery storage, Mr. Chair.

2119
02:11:14,180 --> 02:11:16,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Well, that's good news for our local production, Secretary.

2120
02:11:17,860 --> 02:11:30,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Let me move on to, ano, of course, that one, another sector that is close to my heart because coming from Negros, I saw Sir Paul Alcaza Ascona here, SRA.

2121
02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:38,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: My mother coming from, who hails from Negros, of course, sugar industry is very close to us.

2122
02:11:39,040 --> 02:11:41,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: SIDA has a mandated annual funding allocation under the law.

2123
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:47,520
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yet funding has always fallen short. Under the 2027 NEP, 1 billion

2124
02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:51,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is allocated to the SRA with the limited budget of SIDA.

2125
02:11:51,840 --> 02:12:01,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: How can we ensure that the full intended budget for SIDA programs is actually released and properly utilized to help our sugar cane farmers?

2126
02:12:01,380 --> 02:12:02,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siguro pwede nga na?

2127
02:12:02,580 --> 02:12:07,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Si ating SRA administrator will take advantage of your presence.

2128
02:12:09,120 --> 02:12:10,360
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2129
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:12,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Senator JV.

2130
02:12:13,080 --> 02:12:13,720
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Yeah.

2131
02:12:14,340 --> 02:12:16,200
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So, so far, for the last...

2132
02:12:17,860 --> 02:12:25,340
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Prior to 2022, our SIDA budget went down to as low as 300 million, 500 million.

2133
02:12:25,620 --> 02:12:27,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, I asked, pero 2 billion niya nung muna na.

2134
02:12:27,940 --> 02:12:28,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes.

2135
02:12:28,260 --> 02:12:29,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: On the first year po, sir.

2136
02:12:30,060 --> 02:12:32,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because it was not utilized, it went down to 500.

2137
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:34,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Now, low as 300.

2138
02:12:34,200 --> 02:12:35,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So now, it's back to 1 billion.

2139
02:12:36,020 --> 02:12:37,200
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Yes po, Mr. Chair.

2140
02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:39,060
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: For the last three years po, 1 billion.

2141
02:12:39,260 --> 02:12:42,860
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And then this year, yung alam ko po is 1 billion ulit.

2142
02:12:43,540 --> 02:12:44,620
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: We have...

2143
02:12:44,620 --> 02:12:46,860
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: We have carried over...

2144
02:12:47,860 --> 02:12:52,060
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: I think almost 500 million kasi na-unutilized ever since before.

2145
02:12:52,760 --> 02:12:57,460
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And for the last three years, we've tried our best to spend yung previous po.

2146
02:12:57,880 --> 02:13:02,700
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So, we've been spending over 1 billion for the last two years.

2147
02:13:02,700 --> 02:13:10,240
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And hopefully, if given 2 billion, we will be able to fully utilize it, Mr. Chair.

2148
02:13:10,860 --> 02:13:11,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, sir.

2149
02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:13,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We're hoping that it will be...

2150
02:13:13,980 --> 02:13:17,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: It will be used effectively and maximized.

2151
02:13:17,860 --> 02:13:22,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siyempre, tayo, ano eh, I'm the author of the Sugarcane Industry Development Act

2152
02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:28,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: with the intent of reviving the sugar industry of Negros.

2153
02:13:29,060 --> 02:13:37,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang ano lang na, how about dun sa ano, how is the RSS affecting our sugar production?

2154
02:13:37,200 --> 02:13:40,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Talagang minsan, hindi tayo inaabot ng swerte sa sugar industry.

2155
02:13:40,940 --> 02:13:42,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tinamaan pa tayo ng peste, no?

2156
02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:46,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, how is the sugar industry coping with it now?

2157
02:13:47,860 --> 02:13:48,620
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Yes, Mr. Chair.

2158
02:13:48,620 --> 02:13:55,620
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So far, our production in 2024-2025 was...

2159
02:13:55,620 --> 02:14:00,040
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Since 2022-2025, we've been growing, actually, in production.

2160
02:14:00,780 --> 02:14:05,240
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Our peak happened in 2024-2025, we produced over 2 million tons.

2161
02:14:05,960 --> 02:14:14,280
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And then, in 2025-2026, because of El Nino and the onset of RSS IPO,

2162
02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:17,380
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: we went down to 1.85.

2163
02:14:17,860 --> 02:14:27,440
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And this year, in anticipation for the drastic decrease in rainfall on a year-on-year comparison,

2164
02:14:28,160 --> 02:14:32,280
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: our estimated production is down to 1.6 million.

2165
02:14:32,500 --> 02:14:34,520
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And that's fighting RSSI as well.

2166
02:14:36,540 --> 02:14:41,800
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: RSSI po kasi, Mr. Chair, is not part of any budget, even SIDA.

2167
02:14:42,300 --> 02:14:45,680
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: SIDA kasi po is pre-allocated to certain items only.

2168
02:14:45,680 --> 02:14:47,680
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And we hope and pray to the...

2169
02:14:47,860 --> 02:14:56,580
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Committee and to the Chairman po, sana, that we can have additional budget to fight this new pest, RSSI,

2170
02:14:56,760 --> 02:15:00,020
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: which we never anticipated for Mr. Chair.

2171
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But how are we coping with it?

2172
02:15:03,500 --> 02:15:07,100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Meron na tayong solution for fighting the RSSI?

2173
02:15:08,120 --> 02:15:14,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And also, were we able to provide assistance to the sugarcane farmers?

2174
02:15:15,600 --> 02:15:20,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And how many in anticipation of the RSSI and may super-el-lino pa?

2175
02:15:21,140 --> 02:15:25,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So that we can prepare already, syempre as budget chair, as finance chair, I would like to find out.

2176
02:15:25,820 --> 02:15:33,140
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Yes. Mr. Chair, for the initial first year po of RSSI in Negros,

2177
02:15:34,140 --> 02:15:42,140
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: SRA from its meager corporate budget po spent about 188 million in assistance to farmers.

2178
02:15:42,500 --> 02:15:47,320
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: This includes chemicals, fertilizer, and others, among others.

2179
02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:51,740
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And from SIDA, we were able to utilize about 28 million.

2180
02:15:52,180 --> 02:15:54,800
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So it's a total of 209 million.

2181
02:15:54,800 --> 02:15:55,800
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Now for this year...

2182
02:15:56,780 --> 02:16:00,920
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: The DA extended 35 million directly to LGUs

2183
02:16:00,920 --> 02:16:07,080
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: because we had issues on how to fight RSSI with the province and the other agencies.

2184
02:16:07,900 --> 02:16:11,040
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So there's 35 million directly to LGUs.

2185
02:16:11,800 --> 02:16:20,700
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And I think a total of 400-something million of assistance to farmers and farm workers po

2186
02:16:20,700 --> 02:16:25,660
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: at 10,000 per farmer or per worker po through DSWD po.

2187
02:16:25,820 --> 02:16:28,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, just a...

2188
02:16:28,160 --> 02:16:35,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anyway, I'm hoping that we'll be able to overcome this RSSI problem and super-el-lino.

2189
02:16:35,440 --> 02:16:37,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But nonetheless, I'm also...

2190
02:16:38,280 --> 02:16:44,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung commitment also of the SRA that the timing of the importation will now be...

2191
02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:50,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Will not coincide with the harvest season.

2192
02:16:50,640 --> 02:16:52,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, kasi konti na rin ikikitain nila.

2193
02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:53,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, huwag na natin sasabayan.

2194
02:16:54,060 --> 02:16:54,520
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Dapat na lang.

2195
02:16:54,800 --> 02:16:55,520
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We understand.

2196
02:16:55,820 --> 02:16:57,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of all of these factors

2197
02:16:57,780 --> 02:16:59,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that we need to import also because of the

2198
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:02,120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: shortage but yung timing na lang

2199
02:17:02,120 --> 02:17:03,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'm hoping that we can get

2200
02:17:03,700 --> 02:17:05,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: your commitment that

2201
02:17:05,380 --> 02:17:06,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: SRA will

2202
02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:09,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: only issue

2203
02:17:09,060 --> 02:17:11,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: authority to import

2204
02:17:11,440 --> 02:17:13,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: not during harvest season.

2205
02:17:14,720 --> 02:17:15,480
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Mr. Chair,

2206
02:17:15,480 --> 02:17:16,680
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: yes, I think

2207
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:19,400
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: the Secretary po and the

2208
02:17:19,400 --> 02:17:21,520
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: SRA are committed to

2209
02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:23,440
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: use importation

2210
02:17:23,440 --> 02:17:25,080
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: on a per-need basis po.

2211
02:17:25,820 --> 02:17:28,200
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: It may or may not happen during harvest

2212
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:30,180
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: season but we will only do it if

2213
02:17:30,180 --> 02:17:32,340
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: we really need to do it po, Mr. Chair.

2214
02:17:33,060 --> 02:17:33,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you.

2215
02:17:33,720 --> 02:17:36,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2216
02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:37,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you,

2217
02:17:38,720 --> 02:17:40,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator JV.

2218
02:17:40,200 --> 02:17:42,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We now have Senator Zubiri,

2219
02:17:42,560 --> 02:17:44,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator Migs, our majority leader.

2220
02:17:44,160 --> 02:17:45,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You have 10 minutes.

2221
02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:47,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I likewise before Senator Zubiri like to greet

2222
02:17:47,500 --> 02:17:50,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Secretary Laurel. Happy birthday, sir.

2223
02:17:50,960 --> 02:17:52,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Related happy birthday.

2224
02:17:52,080 --> 02:17:52,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Related happy birthday.

2225
02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:55,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: October 16? 17?

2226
02:17:55,820 --> 02:17:58,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ka-birthday mo yung

2227
02:17:58,340 --> 02:18:00,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: my one and only

2228
02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:01,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: older brother,

2229
02:18:01,920 --> 02:18:04,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Joseph. He's also

2230
02:18:04,160 --> 02:18:05,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Libra.

2231
02:18:06,020 --> 02:18:06,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

2232
02:18:07,580 --> 02:18:09,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you very much. Ka-birthday nga nang

2233
02:18:09,820 --> 02:18:11,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: asawa ko ng Libra. October 11 yung

2234
02:18:11,820 --> 02:18:13,860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: isis ko. Mababait daw yung mga

2235
02:18:13,860 --> 02:18:15,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Libran. Anyway,

2236
02:18:16,140 --> 02:18:17,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. President, ah, Mr. Chairman,

2237
02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:20,220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: halatang

2238
02:18:20,220 --> 02:18:21,800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: magagandang mga, mababait

2239
02:18:21,800 --> 02:18:23,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng mga tanong ni Chairman natin, Chairman

2240
02:18:23,880 --> 02:18:25,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: JV, dahil meron daw silang

2241
02:18:25,820 --> 02:18:28,320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Xavier Mafia. Binulong sa akin

2242
02:18:28,320 --> 02:18:30,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kanina. Puro mga graduate ng

2243
02:18:30,120 --> 02:18:32,060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Xavier yan. Magagaling. Anyway,

2244
02:18:32,180 --> 02:18:34,320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. President, Mr. Chairman, if I may,

2245
02:18:34,840 --> 02:18:36,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I'll be remiss to ask

2246
02:18:36,200 --> 02:18:37,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: these questions because I'll ask,

2247
02:18:38,100 --> 02:18:40,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: you know, I'm an LB

2248
02:18:40,140 --> 02:18:41,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: grad and all my LB

2249
02:18:41,620 --> 02:18:44,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: alumni are asking

2250
02:18:44,180 --> 02:18:45,480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: me to

2251
02:18:45,480 --> 02:18:47,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: participate in the

2252
02:18:47,920 --> 02:18:50,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: DA budget hearings.

2253
02:18:50,720 --> 02:18:52,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ang akin lang, Sec, I know it's very

2254
02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:53,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: difficult. Alam mo, Chairman,

2255
02:18:53,820 --> 02:18:56,480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: napakahirap talaga

2256
02:18:56,480 --> 02:18:58,320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: maging regulator at the same

2257
02:18:58,320 --> 02:18:58,840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: time

2258
02:18:58,840 --> 02:19:02,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: supporter of

2259
02:19:02,620 --> 02:19:04,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: farmers all over the country.

2260
02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:05,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I know, I understand your

2261
02:19:05,880 --> 02:19:08,800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: predicament. Napakahirap dahil binabalansin

2262
02:19:08,800 --> 02:19:09,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: niyo po yung

2263
02:19:09,740 --> 02:19:11,700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pangangailangan ng mga magsasaka

2264
02:19:11,700 --> 02:19:13,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: at yung presyo ng

2265
02:19:13,600 --> 02:19:16,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: bilihin sa merkado.

2266
02:19:17,660 --> 02:19:18,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: In a way,

2267
02:19:18,300 --> 02:19:20,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kung mag-pro-farmer kayo at

2268
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:22,700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pinagbabawal po natin yung importation,

2269
02:19:22,700 --> 02:19:23,460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay,

2270
02:19:23,820 --> 02:19:26,020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: masaya po mga magsasaka

2271
02:19:26,020 --> 02:19:28,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pero napaka, tumataas naman

2272
02:19:28,180 --> 02:19:30,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang presyo ng bilihin dahil kulang

2273
02:19:30,180 --> 02:19:31,760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang produksyon ng ating

2274
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:36,540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: produkto ng agrikultura.

2275
02:19:37,120 --> 02:19:37,340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So,

2276
02:19:38,360 --> 02:19:39,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pag naman sobra naman po kayong

2277
02:19:39,920 --> 02:19:42,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pro-importation, kawawa naman po

2278
02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:44,480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung mga magsasaka, naiiwan po sila,

2279
02:19:44,800 --> 02:19:46,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: bumababa naman ang presyo ng

2280
02:19:46,260 --> 02:19:48,220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: produkto sa merkado.

2281
02:19:48,420 --> 02:19:50,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pero yun nga, ang give and take, yan ang problema

2282
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:52,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: dyan. The reason I ask this,

2283
02:19:52,400 --> 02:19:53,800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chairman, is the

2284
02:19:53,820 --> 02:19:55,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: price of pork recently

2285
02:19:55,940 --> 02:19:57,560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: has gone really down.

2286
02:19:57,740 --> 02:19:59,680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kawawa-kawawa po yung ating mga pork producers.

2287
02:20:00,500 --> 02:20:01,860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chairman, 80%

2288
02:20:01,860 --> 02:20:04,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng ating pork producers are backyard farmers.

2289
02:20:04,600 --> 02:20:06,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Only 20% pong malalaki.

2290
02:20:07,240 --> 02:20:08,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At itong mga

2291
02:20:08,600 --> 02:20:10,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 20% na malalaking kumpanya,

2292
02:20:10,460 --> 02:20:12,660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kaya po nilang mabuhay, maski na malugi

2293
02:20:12,660 --> 02:20:14,320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng konti, kaya po nilang, pero itong

2294
02:20:14,320 --> 02:20:16,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 80% na ating mga magsasaka

2295
02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:18,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay talagang kawawang-kawawa.

2296
02:20:18,640 --> 02:20:19,640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And I just like to read

2297
02:20:19,640 --> 02:20:22,060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chairman, yung

2298
02:20:22,060 --> 02:20:23,800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: itong

2299
02:20:23,820 --> 02:20:28,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mabilis lang po na

2300
02:20:28,180 --> 02:20:28,780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: statement

2301
02:20:28,780 --> 02:20:31,700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na nababasa ko, kasi yung feed ko po

2302
02:20:31,700 --> 02:20:32,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay nasa mga

2303
02:20:32,920 --> 02:20:35,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga magsasakat,

2304
02:20:36,140 --> 02:20:37,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga iba't-ibang racers,

2305
02:20:38,040 --> 02:20:39,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: hog racers, manok,

2306
02:20:39,260 --> 02:20:41,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga poultry racers.

2307
02:20:42,860 --> 02:20:45,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We are calling for urgent intervention.

2308
02:20:45,320 --> 02:20:47,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: This is from the Bukidnon Backyard

2309
02:20:47,300 --> 02:20:48,840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Hog Racers Group.

2310
02:20:49,780 --> 02:20:51,320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dahil sa amin sa Bukidnon,

2311
02:20:51,480 --> 02:20:53,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: talagang hirap na hirap po sila. Marami po

2312
02:20:53,240 --> 02:20:54,660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nagsira ng mga backyard farmers.

2313
02:20:55,300 --> 02:20:57,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And we are calling for urgent intervention

2314
02:20:57,100 --> 02:20:59,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: as buying prices of hogs in our

2315
02:20:59,360 --> 02:21:00,800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: province continues to crash.

2316
02:21:02,200 --> 02:21:02,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And

2317
02:21:02,600 --> 02:21:05,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: they are lamenting that DA has not

2318
02:21:05,240 --> 02:21:07,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: taken action. Ang nangyayari

2319
02:21:07,600 --> 02:21:09,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: is hog prices are plummeting,

2320
02:21:09,420 --> 02:21:11,440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: feed and supply costs are skyrocketing.

2321
02:21:11,680 --> 02:21:12,860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ito po, and I quote, no?

2322
02:21:13,400 --> 02:21:15,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yung livelihoods po nila in the breaking

2323
02:21:15,260 --> 02:21:16,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: point. And

2324
02:21:16,580 --> 02:21:18,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chairman, ito ang

2325
02:21:18,980 --> 02:21:20,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: lumalabas nung

2326
02:21:20,880 --> 02:21:21,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 2022,

2327
02:21:21,820 --> 02:21:22,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Secretary,

2328
02:21:22,080 --> 02:21:24,540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung

2329
02:21:24,540 --> 02:21:26,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: farmgate prices per kilo ng ating

2330
02:21:26,980 --> 02:21:28,760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga magsasaka, lalo na sa mga

2331
02:21:28,760 --> 02:21:30,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: hog racers, ay 179 pesos

2332
02:21:30,980 --> 02:21:33,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: per kilo. Nung 2023,

2333
02:21:33,320 --> 02:21:35,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 177 per kilo.

2334
02:21:35,860 --> 02:21:36,700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Nung 2024,

2335
02:21:36,880 --> 02:21:39,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 185 pesos per kilo

2336
02:21:39,100 --> 02:21:40,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang farmgate prices.

2337
02:21:41,160 --> 02:21:42,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ngayon po, nung end of

2338
02:21:42,580 --> 02:21:44,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 2025, 170. Ngayon po,

2339
02:21:45,040 --> 02:21:46,840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 90 pesos to 120

2340
02:21:46,840 --> 02:21:48,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pesos per kilo ang

2341
02:21:48,820 --> 02:21:51,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: farmgate price. Ang laki po ng bagsak,

2342
02:21:51,280 --> 02:21:51,860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chairman.

2343
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:54,020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Eh, yung

2344
02:21:54,020 --> 02:21:56,700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang sabi po nila,

2345
02:21:56,880 --> 02:21:59,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: dahil po sa napakanaming importation

2346
02:21:59,120 --> 02:22:00,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na nangyayari po sa

2347
02:22:00,400 --> 02:22:02,540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pork

2348
02:22:02,540 --> 02:22:05,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: products, including poultry products,

2349
02:22:05,560 --> 02:22:06,460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Secretary,

2350
02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:08,780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: has the DA done anything?

2351
02:22:08,920 --> 02:22:10,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I know there's recent pronouncements, may mga bagong

2352
02:22:10,960 --> 02:22:13,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pronouncements mong DA, na kayo mismo

2353
02:22:13,080 --> 02:22:14,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nagsalita, na nagsabi po kayo na

2354
02:22:14,940 --> 02:22:17,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: medyo sobra nga ang importation

2355
02:22:17,100 --> 02:22:19,040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na yun. Would you be able to

2356
02:22:19,040 --> 02:22:20,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: brief the committee now,

2357
02:22:20,420 --> 02:22:22,780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Secretary, kung ano pang mga

2358
02:22:22,780 --> 02:22:25,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: hakbang ang ginagawa po ninyo

2359
02:22:25,980 --> 02:22:26,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: para naman

2360
02:22:26,940 --> 02:22:29,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: maitigil po ang massive

2361
02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:31,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: importation nito mga pork and

2362
02:22:31,200 --> 02:22:33,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: poultry products na kawawang-kawawang

2363
02:22:33,600 --> 02:22:35,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: po yung mga backyard racers po natin.

2364
02:22:35,520 --> 02:22:36,800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Secretary, may

2365
02:22:36,800 --> 02:22:38,500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Chairman may ask.

2366
02:22:38,500 --> 02:22:39,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

2367
02:22:39,460 --> 02:22:40,260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2368
02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:44,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Actually, a number of my questions later will be on that.

2369
02:22:44,940 --> 02:22:45,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

2370
02:22:45,880 --> 02:22:48,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Baka masagot ko na lahat ng tanong ninyo, ma'am.

2371
02:22:48,500 --> 02:22:50,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ngayon, sa tungkol sa pork,

2372
02:22:50,420 --> 02:22:52,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: unang-una gusto ko lang

2373
02:22:52,180 --> 02:22:54,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ipabatid sa lahat at sa taong bayan

2374
02:22:54,280 --> 02:22:56,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na ang DA ho at ako ho

2375
02:22:56,400 --> 02:22:58,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ay ang kakampi ng pork industry.

2376
02:22:59,500 --> 02:23:00,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We are for the

2377
02:23:00,460 --> 02:23:01,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: local pork producers.

2378
02:23:02,520 --> 02:23:04,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We are not in favor of

2379
02:23:04,460 --> 02:23:06,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: importers. Yun lang ho. Gusto ko unang

2380
02:23:06,400 --> 02:23:06,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: linawin.

2381
02:23:08,300 --> 02:23:10,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya lang, bound kami

2382
02:23:10,620 --> 02:23:12,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: by international rules

2383
02:23:12,660 --> 02:23:13,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and agreements

2384
02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:16,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: made by my

2385
02:23:16,460 --> 02:23:18,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: predecessors about pork

2386
02:23:18,400 --> 02:23:20,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and chicken that we cannot just

2387
02:23:20,420 --> 02:23:20,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: stop

2388
02:23:20,780 --> 02:23:24,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: importation just like

2389
02:23:24,400 --> 02:23:25,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that on a whim.

2390
02:23:26,200 --> 02:23:28,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung gusto ho natin yun, ang request ko

2391
02:23:28,140 --> 02:23:30,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa ating Kongreso at ating Senado,

2392
02:23:30,620 --> 02:23:32,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: gawan ho nyo ako ng batas

2393
02:23:32,020 --> 02:23:34,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na pwede ko arbitrarily

2394
02:23:34,580 --> 02:23:36,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hintuin ang kahit

2395
02:23:36,520 --> 02:23:38,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: anong importation, kahit

2396
02:23:38,540 --> 02:23:40,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may bilateral agreements na under

2397
02:23:40,400 --> 02:23:42,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the RTO for a short period of time

2398
02:23:42,700 --> 02:23:44,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to correct any situation.

2399
02:23:45,400 --> 02:23:46,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung meron ho ako noon,

2400
02:23:48,220 --> 02:23:48,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pwedeng

2401
02:23:48,420 --> 02:23:48,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pwedeng

2402
02:23:48,860 --> 02:23:49,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ah

2403
02:23:50,420 --> 02:23:51,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: gagawin ko

2404
02:23:51,500 --> 02:23:52,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kaagad yun.

2405
02:23:53,080 --> 02:23:55,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sek, Sek, just with your respect,

2406
02:23:55,460 --> 02:23:57,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sek, pero other countries

2407
02:23:57,580 --> 02:23:59,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: are doing it under the phytosanitary

2408
02:23:59,260 --> 02:24:01,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: permit. Alam ko yung sinasabi

2409
02:24:01,240 --> 02:24:03,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kasi nila is WTO

2410
02:24:03,360 --> 02:24:05,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: etc. etc. But whenever

2411
02:24:05,360 --> 02:24:07,520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: we use that also when we import

2412
02:24:07,520 --> 02:24:09,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to other countries, ang sagot ng ibang bansa

2413
02:24:09,380 --> 02:24:11,500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay hindi kayo pumapasa sa phytosanitary

2414
02:24:11,500 --> 02:24:13,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: permit namin. Hindi sila

2415
02:24:13,360 --> 02:24:15,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nagbabay, nagbabayalate din po sila ng

2416
02:24:15,160 --> 02:24:17,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: WTO, World Trade Organization.

2417
02:24:17,360 --> 02:24:19,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pwede ho yun, Mr. Chair,

2418
02:24:19,300 --> 02:24:20,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung, kung,

2419
02:24:20,420 --> 02:24:22,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung isang bansa lang

2420
02:24:22,340 --> 02:24:24,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nagsusupay, iipitin mo yung isang bansa,

2421
02:24:24,340 --> 02:24:26,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sabihin mo, ganon, pwede yun. Pero

2422
02:24:26,240 --> 02:24:28,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang raming supplying na bansa eh.

2423
02:24:28,920 --> 02:24:30,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Diba? Hindi mo natin pwedeng

2424
02:24:30,240 --> 02:24:30,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sabihin lahat.

2425
02:24:30,960 --> 02:24:31,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pwedeng sumabat lang, sorry.

2426
02:24:32,700 --> 02:24:33,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sabat lang ako ah

2427
02:24:33,780 --> 02:24:36,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kay Senator Suviria

2428
02:24:36,120 --> 02:24:38,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: with the indulgence of our chair.

2429
02:24:38,620 --> 02:24:40,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang problema kasi dyan, yung

2430
02:24:40,060 --> 02:24:42,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Executive Order 116 na

2431
02:24:42,080 --> 02:24:44,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: pinirmahan nitong taon, May 19

2432
02:24:44,160 --> 02:24:45,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng Pangulo, drastically

2433
02:24:45,820 --> 02:24:48,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: increased the mob for imported

2434
02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:50,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: pork meat. Hindi nangangailangan ng bagong

2435
02:24:50,300 --> 02:24:52,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: batas. Paltan lang yan.

2436
02:24:52,600 --> 02:24:54,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Bakit naman kasi, in-expand

2437
02:24:54,240 --> 02:24:56,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: masyado, tapos yung taripa, binagsak

2438
02:24:56,400 --> 02:24:58,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: masyado. Talagang walang kalaban-laban.

2439
02:24:58,800 --> 02:24:59,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yun lang.

2440
02:24:59,980 --> 02:25:01,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sagutin ko lang yun, Mr. Chair.

2441
02:25:02,160 --> 02:25:04,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung EO na yun, tama ho yung EO na yun.

2442
02:25:04,500 --> 02:25:05,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I am defending that EO.

2443
02:25:06,540 --> 02:25:08,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That is in case naman,

2444
02:25:08,540 --> 02:25:10,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dahil nangyari ang EO, dahil dati

2445
02:25:10,160 --> 02:25:12,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tumaas masyado naman ang presyo ng baboy

2446
02:25:12,280 --> 02:25:14,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa merkado at

2447
02:25:14,000 --> 02:25:16,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: consumer naman ang kawawa. Ito nga ho yung

2448
02:25:16,060 --> 02:25:17,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: balancing act eh.

2449
02:25:17,780 --> 02:25:20,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung EO ng ating Pangulo na yan, hindi ho

2450
02:25:20,220 --> 02:25:22,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tinrigger yan. That is a safeguard

2451
02:25:22,360 --> 02:25:24,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: EO in case

2452
02:25:24,120 --> 02:25:26,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: magkabaligtad

2453
02:25:26,400 --> 02:25:28,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: naman ang sitwasyon. So, huwag ho tayo

2454
02:25:28,280 --> 02:25:30,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mag-alala dyan. Tungkol naman,

2455
02:25:30,580 --> 02:25:32,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: babalik lang ho ako dun sa

2456
02:25:32,180 --> 02:25:36,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: SPSIC na sabihin

2457
02:25:36,120 --> 02:25:36,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa ano,

2458
02:25:38,820 --> 02:25:39,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang problema ho natin,

2459
02:25:40,080 --> 02:25:42,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, is kailangan natin

2460
02:25:42,040 --> 02:25:43,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ihinto lahat ng

2461
02:25:43,860 --> 02:25:46,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: importasyon for at least 60

2462
02:25:46,180 --> 02:25:48,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: days from all origins.

2463
02:25:49,440 --> 02:25:50,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Hindi naman

2464
02:25:50,220 --> 02:25:51,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: natin pwedeng gawin yung

2465
02:25:51,800 --> 02:25:54,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sinasuggest kanina

2466
02:25:54,020 --> 02:25:56,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na all origins. Lahat yan,

2467
02:25:56,400 --> 02:25:58,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang Amerika, ang UK,

2468
02:25:58,360 --> 02:25:59,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang Canada,

2469
02:25:59,720 --> 02:26:01,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang Australia,

2470
02:26:01,860 --> 02:26:02,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang Brazil,

2471
02:26:03,840 --> 02:26:05,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: magre-reklamo

2472
02:26:05,060 --> 02:26:07,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at sa file lang tayo ng kaso.

2473
02:26:07,900 --> 02:26:09,800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: But the SEC, so what is

2474
02:26:09,800 --> 02:26:11,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the solution?

2475
02:26:12,040 --> 02:26:13,760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I'll be honest with you, ang problema

2476
02:26:13,760 --> 02:26:16,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and every time nagme-meeting kami,

2477
02:26:16,340 --> 02:26:17,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I'm racking my brains,

2478
02:26:17,620 --> 02:26:19,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang taas ng presyo ng bilihin.

2479
02:26:19,000 --> 02:26:19,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron kami,

2480
02:26:20,220 --> 02:26:21,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang solution, Mr. Chair,

2481
02:26:22,240 --> 02:26:25,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang DA ho ay talagang

2482
02:26:25,280 --> 02:26:26,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: isinulong na namin ilang beses

2483
02:26:26,920 --> 02:26:29,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hanggang ngayon. Nag-request na kami

2484
02:26:29,300 --> 02:26:30,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: itaras, taas ang taripa,

2485
02:26:31,020 --> 02:26:32,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ibalik sa 40%.

2486
02:26:32,900 --> 02:26:35,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Lahat ho tayo magkasundo rito dun.

2487
02:26:35,660 --> 02:26:37,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Wala tayong nag-aaway dito

2488
02:26:37,260 --> 02:26:39,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at gusto kong pabatid sa ating mga

2489
02:26:39,320 --> 02:26:41,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hog racers, kakampinyo kami dyan.

2490
02:26:42,340 --> 02:26:42,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya lang,

2491
02:26:43,020 --> 02:26:45,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at nag-file na kami, nasa proseso

2492
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:46,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na ho yan. Kaya lang, of course, there are

2493
02:26:46,980 --> 02:26:49,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: other forces at or

2494
02:26:49,460 --> 02:26:52,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: other people who have different opinions

2495
02:26:52,160 --> 02:26:52,970
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: about it.

2496
02:26:52,970 --> 02:26:54,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi alam ko, nag-petition

2497
02:26:54,380 --> 02:26:55,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na kayo sa Tariff Commission.

2498
02:26:56,360 --> 02:26:58,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang tanong, e 2028 pa ba

2499
02:26:58,820 --> 02:27:00,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung 30% at 40%?

2500
02:27:00,920 --> 02:27:02,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Talagang 25% ba yung

2501
02:27:02,360 --> 02:27:04,540
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in-quota and 35% yung

2502
02:27:04,540 --> 02:27:05,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: out-quota forever?

2503
02:27:06,220 --> 02:27:07,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Wala bang magawa dyan?

2504
02:27:07,260 --> 02:27:10,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Hindi naman ganun ang aming pronouncement,

2505
02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:11,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Madam Chair.

2506
02:27:11,800 --> 02:27:13,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nung sinabit namin, yun yung una.

2507
02:27:14,700 --> 02:27:16,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi nakita ko, nag-petition talaga kayo.

2508
02:27:16,620 --> 02:27:17,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Iba na ho ang posisyon namin.

2509
02:27:18,100 --> 02:27:19,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang posisyon namin, diretso na tayo.

2510
02:27:19,460 --> 02:27:22,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chair, I just like to ask,

2511
02:27:22,260 --> 02:27:24,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kasi may nagkakaproblema, Mr. Chairman,

2512
02:27:24,400 --> 02:27:25,700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: din sa technical smuggling.

2513
02:27:26,260 --> 02:27:28,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Even if you bring it at 40%,

2514
02:27:28,180 --> 02:27:30,040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: alam ko po, pag

2515
02:27:30,040 --> 02:27:32,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: bumababayan dito,

2516
02:27:32,660 --> 02:27:34,220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: binibenta pa rin yan, hinahalo

2517
02:27:34,220 --> 02:27:36,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa local markets,

2518
02:27:37,040 --> 02:27:38,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na galing po itong local.

2519
02:27:38,340 --> 02:27:39,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kaya, ang nangyayari,

2520
02:27:39,920 --> 02:27:42,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nakakatipid po sila dito sa 40%

2521
02:27:42,380 --> 02:27:44,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na taripa. Hindi naman natin

2522
02:27:44,360 --> 02:27:45,840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kontrolado yung customs, di ba?

2523
02:27:45,920 --> 02:27:47,040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Hindi nyo naman kontrolado yun.

2524
02:27:47,860 --> 02:27:48,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ang punto ko lang,

2525
02:27:48,920 --> 02:27:51,020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chairman and dear Secretaries,

2526
02:27:51,580 --> 02:27:53,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I'll ask this question first.

2527
02:27:54,060 --> 02:27:56,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Why is it that the farm-to-market price

2528
02:27:56,200 --> 02:27:58,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na bilihin ang ating mga

2529
02:27:58,120 --> 02:28:00,520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: backyard ay

2530
02:28:00,520 --> 02:28:02,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 90 to 120,

2531
02:28:02,280 --> 02:28:04,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 110 pesos, na napakababa,

2532
02:28:04,420 --> 02:28:06,040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: which is below their cost of production?

2533
02:28:06,180 --> 02:28:07,220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kasi ang cost of production nila,

2534
02:28:07,600 --> 02:28:09,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 130 pesos per kilo,

2535
02:28:09,540 --> 02:28:11,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 140, lugi sila.

2536
02:28:11,860 --> 02:28:13,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Bakit po ang presyo sa merkado

2537
02:28:13,600 --> 02:28:14,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay napakamahal pa rin?

2538
02:28:15,380 --> 02:28:17,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yan ang hindi ko maintindihan.

2539
02:28:17,960 --> 02:28:20,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kasi ang taas ng inflation, di ba?

2540
02:28:20,560 --> 02:28:22,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Let's face it, napakatas ng inflation.

2541
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:24,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We're one of the highest in Southeast Asia.

2542
02:28:25,220 --> 02:28:26,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Galit na galit ang tao sa gobyerno.

2543
02:28:27,380 --> 02:28:28,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Galit na galit ang tao sa presidente.

2544
02:28:30,200 --> 02:28:30,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pero hindi ko maintindihan

2545
02:28:31,580 --> 02:28:33,720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: bakit nahirap-nahirap ang ating mga magsasaka

2546
02:28:33,720 --> 02:28:35,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa napakababang presyo

2547
02:28:35,400 --> 02:28:36,720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng farmgate prices nila.

2548
02:28:37,080 --> 02:28:38,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Wala pa tayong monitoring.

2549
02:28:38,340 --> 02:28:41,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, I'm asking, what is the price

2550
02:28:41,740 --> 02:28:42,840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: difference now

2551
02:28:42,840 --> 02:28:44,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: between the farm-to-market

2552
02:28:44,600 --> 02:28:46,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: farmgate price of pork

2553
02:28:46,920 --> 02:28:47,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and poultry?

2554
02:28:47,960 --> 02:28:49,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And why has it not

2555
02:28:49,900 --> 02:28:52,060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: gone down in the market

2556
02:28:52,060 --> 02:28:54,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: itself? Bakit ganyan, Sek?

2557
02:28:54,380 --> 02:28:56,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Magkano ang retail prices

2558
02:28:56,160 --> 02:28:57,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng pork ngayon?

2559
02:28:57,200 --> 02:28:59,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang liyempo, Mr. Chair, is P380.

2560
02:28:59,600 --> 02:29:01,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasim-Pigay is P330.

2561
02:29:01,740 --> 02:29:02,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: P330.

2562
02:29:02,620 --> 02:29:05,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang imported liyempo is

2563
02:29:05,100 --> 02:29:06,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: P270-P280.

2564
02:29:07,880 --> 02:29:09,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang imported

2565
02:29:09,520 --> 02:29:11,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kasim-Pigay is

2566
02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:13,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: P240 yata.

2567
02:29:14,280 --> 02:29:15,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, so sinasabi nga,

2568
02:29:15,860 --> 02:29:17,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung

2569
02:29:17,960 --> 02:29:21,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmgate price,

2570
02:29:21,220 --> 02:29:22,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for example, this is from the DA,

2571
02:29:22,980 --> 02:29:24,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is P166.

2572
02:29:25,700 --> 02:29:26,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Depende saan siguro,

2573
02:29:26,900 --> 02:29:27,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on average.

2574
02:29:27,460 --> 02:29:30,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa amin sa Mindanao, P90-P100 lang.

2575
02:29:30,380 --> 02:29:33,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos, ang retail is

2576
02:29:33,160 --> 02:29:33,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: P380.

2577
02:29:34,620 --> 02:29:35,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Asalim po, Mr. Chair.

2578
02:29:36,140 --> 02:29:38,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, assuming

2579
02:29:38,100 --> 02:29:40,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: P90-P100,

2580
02:29:41,100 --> 02:29:41,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: P120,

2581
02:29:42,520 --> 02:29:44,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so, P380,

2582
02:29:44,840 --> 02:29:46,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ganun yung gap from farmgate

2583
02:29:46,700 --> 02:29:47,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to,

2584
02:29:47,960 --> 02:29:49,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to wet market.

2585
02:29:49,460 --> 02:29:51,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now, if we check

2586
02:29:51,480 --> 02:29:52,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung DA data naman,

2587
02:29:53,500 --> 02:29:54,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: P166

2588
02:29:54,540 --> 02:29:56,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang farmgate price.

2589
02:29:57,780 --> 02:29:58,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Farmgate.

2590
02:29:59,540 --> 02:30:00,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: This is

2591
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:02,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: from Farmgate

2592
02:30:02,020 --> 02:30:04,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 166. Pero...

2593
02:30:04,180 --> 02:30:06,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: PSA data

2594
02:30:06,040 --> 02:30:06,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: huya times.

2595
02:30:07,220 --> 02:30:09,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi, DA ang nagbigay.

2596
02:30:10,400 --> 02:30:12,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Oh, DA. No, this is

2597
02:30:12,060 --> 02:30:13,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Farmgate 166. Assuming lang

2598
02:30:13,960 --> 02:30:15,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it's correct.

2599
02:30:15,800 --> 02:30:17,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang production cost ng

2600
02:30:17,340 --> 02:30:20,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers according to ProPork

2601
02:30:20,160 --> 02:30:21,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is 182.

2602
02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:23,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, ibig sabihin,

2603
02:30:23,900 --> 02:30:25,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: binibili ng bentalo sa

2604
02:30:25,860 --> 02:30:27,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 16 pesos palugi.

2605
02:30:28,600 --> 02:30:28,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: No?

2606
02:30:28,700 --> 02:30:30,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: This, maraming probinsya po.

2607
02:30:30,660 --> 02:30:32,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 19 to 120 live weight

2608
02:30:32,720 --> 02:30:34,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Farmgate. Live weight and farmgate.

2609
02:30:34,520 --> 02:30:35,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sa Kasim,

2610
02:30:36,580 --> 02:30:38,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 380 sa merkado. So, you can look,

2611
02:30:38,920 --> 02:30:41,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you can see the, from 166

2612
02:30:41,100 --> 02:30:42,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to

2613
02:30:42,320 --> 02:30:44,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 380.

2614
02:30:44,920 --> 02:30:46,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, 166,

2615
02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:48,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 266,

2616
02:30:48,780 --> 02:30:51,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 366. So, 220

2617
02:30:51,140 --> 02:30:52,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pesos ang

2618
02:30:52,780 --> 02:30:54,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: difference between

2619
02:30:54,660 --> 02:30:56,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Farmgate and retail.

2620
02:30:57,060 --> 02:30:58,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sinong kumikita ron?

2621
02:30:58,700 --> 02:31:00,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah, Mr. Chair, kumikita

2622
02:31:00,980 --> 02:31:02,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dyan, Mr. Chair, is retailer

2623
02:31:02,600 --> 02:31:04,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and middleman, Mr. Chair.

2624
02:31:04,540 --> 02:31:05,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun na nga. Now,

2625
02:31:06,040 --> 02:31:10,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and then you're going to the question

2626
02:31:10,740 --> 02:31:12,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of, are we

2627
02:31:12,240 --> 02:31:14,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: monitoring yung mga

2628
02:31:14,720 --> 02:31:16,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: imported na frozen?

2629
02:31:17,160 --> 02:31:18,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Are we monitoring

2630
02:31:18,240 --> 02:31:20,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: their cold

2631
02:31:20,720 --> 02:31:21,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: storage facilities?

2632
02:31:22,580 --> 02:31:24,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sila ba ay naglalabas o

2633
02:31:24,480 --> 02:31:26,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hindi nila nilalabas? Yun din ang tanong.

2634
02:31:26,540 --> 02:31:27,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because,

2635
02:31:27,540 --> 02:31:28,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mr. Chair,

2636
02:31:28,700 --> 02:31:30,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the same line, just to put it

2637
02:31:30,840 --> 02:31:32,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the same line of

2638
02:31:32,900 --> 02:31:35,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: thought, ang landed

2639
02:31:35,200 --> 02:31:37,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: cost ng imported pork

2640
02:31:37,080 --> 02:31:38,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is about

2641
02:31:38,780 --> 02:31:39,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: $3

2642
02:31:39,100 --> 02:31:43,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: right now. Yun ang submissions

2643
02:31:43,080 --> 02:31:43,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: din ng DA.

2644
02:31:44,460 --> 02:31:46,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: $3 is

2645
02:31:46,120 --> 02:31:47,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 180 pesos.

2646
02:31:49,620 --> 02:31:50,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

2647
02:31:51,080 --> 02:31:52,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, pagka

2648
02:31:52,260 --> 02:31:55,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 180 pesos yung landed cost,

2649
02:31:55,820 --> 02:31:55,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pero

2650
02:31:55,980 --> 02:31:58,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 270 to

2651
02:31:58,040 --> 02:31:59,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 280,

2652
02:32:00,400 --> 02:32:01,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: no, ang

2653
02:32:01,020 --> 02:32:04,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: retail.

2654
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:05,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, malaki pa rin.

2655
02:32:06,240 --> 02:32:07,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Malaki pa rin ng gap.

2656
02:32:08,120 --> 02:32:09,840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, Mr. Chairman, tanong ko lang sa

2657
02:32:09,840 --> 02:32:10,220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Secretary,

2658
02:32:11,000 --> 02:32:13,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: is there a price monitoring

2659
02:32:13,920 --> 02:32:16,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: team? Does the DA have a

2660
02:32:16,140 --> 02:32:18,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: price monitoring team that can

2661
02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:19,720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: actually feed this to the DTI? Kasi

2662
02:32:19,720 --> 02:32:21,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang DTI may powers po yan

2663
02:32:21,360 --> 02:32:24,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa price monitoring,

2664
02:32:24,100 --> 02:32:25,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: di ba? Kasi,

2665
02:32:26,080 --> 02:32:27,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: naawa po ako sa gobyerno.

2666
02:32:28,040 --> 02:32:30,040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Bugbog na bugbog sila sa taong bayan

2667
02:32:30,040 --> 02:32:31,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kasi galit na galit yung mga farmers.

2668
02:32:32,600 --> 02:32:33,700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Galit na galit yung tao.

2669
02:32:34,320 --> 02:32:35,860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dahil ang mahal daw ng presyo ng

2670
02:32:35,860 --> 02:32:38,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: produkto. Tapos yung mga magsasaka,

2671
02:32:38,260 --> 02:32:40,060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: lugi sila. Hindi nila alam

2672
02:32:40,060 --> 02:32:41,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: bakit ang taas ng presyo

2673
02:32:41,940 --> 02:32:44,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng bilihin, pero sa kanila

2674
02:32:44,160 --> 02:32:45,680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang napakababa ng

2675
02:32:45,680 --> 02:32:47,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: farmgate prices. Talagang it

2676
02:32:47,880 --> 02:32:48,760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: blows the mind.

2677
02:32:49,860 --> 02:32:51,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And I feel for

2678
02:32:51,820 --> 02:32:52,340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: government.

2679
02:32:53,680 --> 02:32:55,760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: But I know you're in a difficult spot,

2680
02:32:56,040 --> 02:32:58,020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Secretary. Ano kayang mga hakbang na gaon?

2681
02:32:58,040 --> 02:32:59,320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ano kayang gagawin po ng department

2682
02:32:59,320 --> 02:33:01,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to do the price regulations and monitoring?

2683
02:33:02,480 --> 02:33:03,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang analysis ko dyan,

2684
02:33:04,060 --> 02:33:05,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, is ganito.

2685
02:33:06,100 --> 02:33:08,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's a sort of perfect storm din

2686
02:33:08,040 --> 02:33:09,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for the consumers,

2687
02:33:09,680 --> 02:33:10,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for the pork industry.

2688
02:33:11,560 --> 02:33:13,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nag-increase ang production,

2689
02:33:14,160 --> 02:33:15,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nag-increase ang importation,

2690
02:33:16,200 --> 02:33:17,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bumaba ang demand.

2691
02:33:17,540 --> 02:33:20,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang affordability ng tao.

2692
02:33:20,460 --> 02:33:21,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So yun ang nangyari dyan.

2693
02:33:21,620 --> 02:33:23,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya nag-collapse din lahat. Plus may ASF

2694
02:33:23,960 --> 02:33:26,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: issue pa. Ang gagawin

2695
02:33:26,020 --> 02:33:28,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng DA ngayon, we've actually,

2696
02:33:28,040 --> 02:33:29,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we've actually done steps already

2697
02:33:29,780 --> 02:33:31,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to trigger yung

2698
02:33:31,580 --> 02:33:33,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: safeguard duties. We've proposed

2699
02:33:33,920 --> 02:33:35,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tariff increases.

2700
02:33:36,440 --> 02:33:37,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And with yung pag-trigger namin

2701
02:33:37,680 --> 02:33:40,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na safeguard duties, pag nag-review

2702
02:33:40,040 --> 02:33:41,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na ang tariff commission, at a certain

2703
02:33:41,940 --> 02:33:43,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: point, X number

2704
02:33:43,960 --> 02:33:45,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: of days, meron na kaming

2705
02:33:45,700 --> 02:33:47,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: magiging power to

2706
02:33:47,220 --> 02:33:49,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: do quantitative restriction

2707
02:33:49,840 --> 02:33:51,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for up to 200 days.

2708
02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:54,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So sa estimate ko,

2709
02:33:55,220 --> 02:33:56,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: rough estimate

2710
02:33:56,240 --> 02:33:58,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lang to, wag yung lagay itagal.

2711
02:33:58,040 --> 02:33:59,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Lala lang sa bato yung aking sasabihin na time,

2712
02:34:00,100 --> 02:34:01,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: plus or minus yan.

2713
02:34:01,900 --> 02:34:03,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: By November 15,

2714
02:34:04,180 --> 02:34:05,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: baka pwede na akong mag-suspend

2715
02:34:05,840 --> 02:34:07,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng importation ng Kasimpigay at

2716
02:34:07,960 --> 02:34:09,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Beli for 60 days.

2717
02:34:09,860 --> 02:34:11,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Or stop of issuance of new

2718
02:34:11,920 --> 02:34:13,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: SPSIC. Yun ho ang

2719
02:34:13,760 --> 02:34:15,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hakbang na ginagawa. Pinlano na namin

2720
02:34:15,860 --> 02:34:17,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ito a few months, but we cannot really announce this.

2721
02:34:18,080 --> 02:34:19,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pag in-announce namin kaget to,

2722
02:34:20,320 --> 02:34:21,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: actually, ayaw kong sabihin to.

2723
02:34:23,180 --> 02:34:23,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasi,

2724
02:34:23,580 --> 02:34:25,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kasi ayaw kong sabihin.

2725
02:34:25,500 --> 02:34:26,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung sasabihin ko to,

2726
02:34:26,720 --> 02:34:28,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: baka tumaas bigla

2727
02:34:28,880 --> 02:34:29,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang mga presyo eh.

2728
02:34:30,760 --> 02:34:31,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Inflationary.

2729
02:34:32,280 --> 02:34:34,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That's why even sa mga Senate hearings,

2730
02:34:34,860 --> 02:34:36,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Congressional hearings, sana hindi ako

2731
02:34:36,800 --> 02:34:39,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: itanong sa mga volumes na i-import ko.

2732
02:34:39,940 --> 02:34:41,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa mga ganitong gagawin namin

2733
02:34:41,480 --> 02:34:43,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: masyado, kung pwede executive session

2734
02:34:43,320 --> 02:34:45,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: because it will disrupt

2735
02:34:45,320 --> 02:34:46,800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I understand.

2736
02:34:47,080 --> 02:34:49,320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I understand. Lalaruin ng mga importers yan.

2737
02:34:49,440 --> 02:34:51,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pero, then you penalize

2738
02:34:51,620 --> 02:34:53,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: them for overpricing.

2739
02:34:53,920 --> 02:34:55,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: That we have the power to penalize

2740
02:34:55,740 --> 02:34:56,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: them.

2741
02:34:56,720 --> 02:34:58,540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Goodness. With the DTI,

2742
02:34:58,760 --> 02:34:59,840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: di ba? We can do that.

2743
02:35:00,200 --> 02:35:01,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: The DTI, sir.

2744
02:35:01,460 --> 02:35:03,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: It's called predatory pricing.

2745
02:35:03,320 --> 02:35:05,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ang dami natin namin pasan ng mga batas dito

2746
02:35:05,200 --> 02:35:06,860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na sinama namin yun.

2747
02:35:07,400 --> 02:35:09,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Lalo na sa, yung sa rice importation,

2748
02:35:10,040 --> 02:35:11,860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: di ba? Yung pagkakit natin ng taripa.

2749
02:35:11,860 --> 02:35:14,560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We put a provision there on predatory pricing

2750
02:35:14,560 --> 02:35:16,480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na hindi pwedeng tumaas

2751
02:35:16,480 --> 02:35:17,840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng katakot-takot.

2752
02:35:18,340 --> 02:35:19,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ilang beses na tayo nandito.

2753
02:35:19,900 --> 02:35:21,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kaya minsan, di na ako nag-attend ng budget hearing

2754
02:35:21,820 --> 02:35:23,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa totoo lang. Kasi, paulit-ulit lang naman yung

2755
02:35:23,980 --> 02:35:25,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kwento eh. With your respect to the

2756
02:35:25,960 --> 02:35:27,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Secretary, I'm talking about many budgets

2757
02:35:27,980 --> 02:35:30,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: of many departments and I've been

2758
02:35:30,120 --> 02:35:30,800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to many.

2759
02:35:30,800 --> 02:35:31,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If I may just add,

2760
02:35:31,800 --> 02:35:32,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you have the

2761
02:35:32,920 --> 02:35:35,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: price app, you have the consumer

2762
02:35:35,920 --> 02:35:38,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: protection app. The DTI is

2763
02:35:38,040 --> 02:35:39,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: empowered to

2764
02:35:39,740 --> 02:35:42,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: call

2765
02:35:42,400 --> 02:35:46,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the retailers who are overpricing

2766
02:35:46,260 --> 02:35:48,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or who are doing predatory pricing.

2767
02:35:48,520 --> 02:35:50,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You can put in place

2768
02:35:50,240 --> 02:35:51,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a suggested retail price

2769
02:35:51,980 --> 02:35:53,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and if it's over that,

2770
02:35:54,340 --> 02:35:55,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the DTI can come in.

2771
02:35:55,960 --> 02:35:57,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, maybe

2772
02:35:57,200 --> 02:35:59,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at least for pork,

2773
02:36:00,260 --> 02:36:01,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ayusin na natin ito. Because the

2774
02:36:01,840 --> 02:36:03,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: information that was

2775
02:36:03,780 --> 02:36:05,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: relayed to me is the

2776
02:36:05,820 --> 02:36:08,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: local pork and hog industry

2777
02:36:08,340 --> 02:36:10,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is losing about 350 million pesos

2778
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:11,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a day.

2779
02:36:11,820 --> 02:36:13,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa lugi nila. At marami na

2780
02:36:13,980 --> 02:36:16,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang nagsasara. Dahil nga

2781
02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:18,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagbebenta ng palugi.

2782
02:36:20,040 --> 02:36:22,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dagdag pa ng lugi dahil yung transport

2783
02:36:22,320 --> 02:36:23,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: cost, etc.

2784
02:36:24,000 --> 02:36:24,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

2785
02:36:25,960 --> 02:36:27,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what we're asking the department

2786
02:36:27,980 --> 02:36:30,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is to strengthen

2787
02:36:30,080 --> 02:36:31,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your links with the DTI and

2788
02:36:31,980 --> 02:36:33,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: address at least focus

2789
02:36:33,760 --> 02:36:35,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on the issue of pork

2790
02:36:35,940 --> 02:36:37,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: prices at this time.

2791
02:36:37,560 --> 02:36:39,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mr. Chair, may I

2792
02:36:39,980 --> 02:36:41,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: just add, Senator Subiri, we're

2793
02:36:41,900 --> 02:36:43,800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: always pointing to the DTI

2794
02:36:43,800 --> 02:36:45,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for price regulation

2795
02:36:45,920 --> 02:36:47,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: but the reality is that the

2796
02:36:47,980 --> 02:36:49,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Department of Agriculture has direct

2797
02:36:49,920 --> 02:36:51,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: legal authority to inspect, monitor

2798
02:36:51,920 --> 02:36:54,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and penalize food price

2799
02:36:54,020 --> 02:36:55,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: gouging and illegal price

2800
02:36:55,280 --> 02:36:55,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: gouging.

2801
02:36:55,960 --> 02:36:57,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Price manipulation. That's very clear

2802
02:36:57,980 --> 02:37:00,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: under RA 7581

2803
02:37:00,380 --> 02:37:02,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: under the newly enacted

2804
02:37:02,160 --> 02:37:04,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: RA 12022

2805
02:37:04,740 --> 02:37:06,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the Anti-Agricultural

2806
02:37:06,240 --> 02:37:08,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Economic Sabotage Act.

2807
02:37:08,540 --> 02:37:09,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At ang bibigat,

2808
02:37:09,780 --> 02:37:12,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang bibigat ng aming linagay

2809
02:37:12,120 --> 02:37:13,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na mga parusa

2810
02:37:13,980 --> 02:37:15,680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: dyan. Sobrang lalaki ng

2811
02:37:15,680 --> 02:37:18,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: parusa. May imprisonment

2812
02:37:18,340 --> 02:37:19,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 5 to 15 years.

2813
02:37:20,280 --> 02:37:21,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pwede kayong mag-show cost

2814
02:37:21,660 --> 02:37:24,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 2 million. Pwede para

2815
02:37:24,000 --> 02:37:25,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa standard violations under the

2816
02:37:25,900 --> 02:37:27,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Price Act. DA has the power

2817
02:37:27,740 --> 02:37:29,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: up to life imprisonment

2818
02:37:29,720 --> 02:37:31,700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: under economic sabotage and

2819
02:37:31,700 --> 02:37:33,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 5 times the value of whatever they're

2820
02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:36,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: selling. So gamitin po ninyo

2821
02:37:36,180 --> 02:37:37,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung binigay na kapangyarihan

2822
02:37:37,760 --> 02:37:38,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa DA.

2823
02:37:38,540 --> 02:37:41,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Madam, Mr. Chair, I totally agree with the

2824
02:37:41,500 --> 02:37:44,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: good Senator. Sa part na yun

2825
02:37:44,020 --> 02:37:45,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pwede na kami doon.

2826
02:37:45,660 --> 02:37:47,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Problema hindi ito yung problema ngayon.

2827
02:37:47,700 --> 02:37:49,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang problema ngayon, pababa ang presyo.

2828
02:37:51,260 --> 02:37:52,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pababa ang presyo

2829
02:37:52,140 --> 02:37:54,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng farmgate prices

2830
02:37:54,820 --> 02:37:55,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but not the...

2831
02:37:55,900 --> 02:37:58,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Retail prices also went down.

2832
02:37:58,260 --> 02:38:00,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Based on our record, retail prices

2833
02:38:00,120 --> 02:38:03,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: also went down by 9.55%

2834
02:38:03,120 --> 02:38:03,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for Kasim.

2835
02:38:04,400 --> 02:38:06,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For Liempo, it's 7.05%.

2836
02:38:06,920 --> 02:38:09,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, bumaba din.

2837
02:38:09,980 --> 02:38:11,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Bumaba ng malaki dito. Bumaba ng

2838
02:38:11,960 --> 02:38:12,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: konti dito.

2839
02:38:13,200 --> 02:38:14,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sana po, Secretary.

2840
02:38:14,740 --> 02:38:17,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Wala ho kaming way na paano pataasin.

2841
02:38:17,220 --> 02:38:19,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I understand and I hope those rates

2842
02:38:19,980 --> 02:38:22,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: are true. Pero yun nga, yung lumalabas

2843
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:23,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na PSA rates, yung pagkain po

2844
02:38:23,880 --> 02:38:25,480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay napakamahal. But anyway,

2845
02:38:25,900 --> 02:38:28,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: again, I said it's a very

2846
02:38:28,260 --> 02:38:29,680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: difficult balancing act, Sec.

2847
02:38:30,340 --> 02:38:32,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pero yung hindi ko na

2848
02:38:32,420 --> 02:38:33,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nakikita na yun, Mr. Secretary

2849
02:38:33,940 --> 02:38:35,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and Mr. Chairman. Dati,

2850
02:38:36,460 --> 02:38:37,840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the Secretary of the DA

2851
02:38:37,840 --> 02:38:40,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and the DTI Secretary

2852
02:38:40,280 --> 02:38:42,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: umiikot yan sa iba't ibang

2853
02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:43,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: merkado. Tinitignan ba?

2854
02:38:44,140 --> 02:38:46,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Overpriced ito. Okay na presyong

2855
02:38:46,420 --> 02:38:48,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ito. Hindi ko nakikita po na yun,

2856
02:38:48,360 --> 02:38:49,500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Secretary. With your respect,

2857
02:38:50,000 --> 02:38:52,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think the people just want to see

2858
02:38:52,000 --> 02:38:54,340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: more action from the government

2859
02:38:54,340 --> 02:38:55,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and actionable

2860
02:38:55,300 --> 02:38:57,440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: on the ground.

2861
02:38:58,060 --> 02:38:59,680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Di ba't trabaho ng AMAS yan?

2862
02:39:00,400 --> 02:39:00,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: AMAS.

2863
02:39:01,320 --> 02:39:02,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Anyway, nandiyan ba yung AMAS?

2864
02:39:03,240 --> 02:39:04,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chairman, may ikot ko.

2865
02:39:04,240 --> 02:39:06,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ito, kaibigan ko, si Tito Scarag.

2866
02:39:06,740 --> 02:39:09,660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Barkada ko ito. This guy is magaling sa enforcement.

2867
02:39:10,360 --> 02:39:12,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yan ang ipaikot mo sa mga merkado.

2868
02:39:12,260 --> 02:39:14,020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pag nagalit yan, ay sigurado

2869
02:39:14,020 --> 02:39:15,340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: makikinig yung

2870
02:39:15,340 --> 02:39:17,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: taong bayan sa kanya. This guy's a good

2871
02:39:17,620 --> 02:39:19,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: enforcer. He's a good friend of ours.

2872
02:39:20,340 --> 02:39:21,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: May daily price index,

2873
02:39:22,060 --> 02:39:23,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: di ba, nationwide? At

2874
02:39:23,620 --> 02:39:24,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nasa batas na yung,

2875
02:39:25,300 --> 02:39:27,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Agribusiness Marketing Assistance Service

2876
02:39:27,600 --> 02:39:30,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: will conduct regular market monitoring,

2877
02:39:30,540 --> 02:39:31,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: surprise inspections in

2878
02:39:31,940 --> 02:39:33,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: wet markets and urban trade hubs.

2879
02:39:34,060 --> 02:39:34,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Nasa batas po.

2880
02:39:35,380 --> 02:39:37,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, we are actually

2881
02:39:37,820 --> 02:39:40,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: inspecting daily. I have a daily report

2882
02:39:40,040 --> 02:39:41,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: of all major markets.

2883
02:39:42,140 --> 02:39:43,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And umiikot kami ng DTI talaga.

2884
02:39:44,320 --> 02:39:46,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But normally,

2885
02:39:46,220 --> 02:39:47,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: minomonitor na yung pag umikot kami

2886
02:39:47,860 --> 02:39:49,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung pagtaas ng presyo.

2887
02:39:49,300 --> 02:39:52,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung pag mababa yung presyo, hindi namin masyadong

2888
02:39:52,020 --> 02:39:53,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: namamonitor. But

2889
02:39:53,640 --> 02:39:55,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we will look at it.

2890
02:39:55,300 --> 02:39:56,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We will look into it also.

2891
02:39:56,440 --> 02:39:58,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you, Sec. I just have a few more questions.

2892
02:39:59,440 --> 02:40:01,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Baka Madam Aimee wants to interject.

2893
02:40:01,540 --> 02:40:01,640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Okay.

2894
02:40:02,740 --> 02:40:04,560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mabilis na kasi mawawalan ako ng time.

2895
02:40:05,640 --> 02:40:07,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So basically, on port

2896
02:40:07,080 --> 02:40:08,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: impotentations, we've addressed that already today.

2897
02:40:09,000 --> 02:40:11,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We really just have to monitor on the final

2898
02:40:11,100 --> 02:40:12,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pricing and how to increase

2899
02:40:12,980 --> 02:40:14,660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the live

2900
02:40:14,660 --> 02:40:15,340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: live

2901
02:40:15,340 --> 02:40:18,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: weight prices. And then

2902
02:40:18,820 --> 02:40:20,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: on the issue on rice,

2903
02:40:21,520 --> 02:40:23,060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: your honors, Mr. Chairman,

2904
02:40:23,060 --> 02:40:23,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: um,

2905
02:40:25,300 --> 02:40:27,660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga rice farmers natin, of course, they're complaining,

2906
02:40:27,800 --> 02:40:29,660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: they're crying, but napaka-taas ng presyo

2907
02:40:29,660 --> 02:40:30,640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng bigas at

2908
02:40:30,640 --> 02:40:32,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng palay na yun.

2909
02:40:33,300 --> 02:40:35,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Basically, bigas, especially imported rice.

2910
02:40:36,000 --> 02:40:37,480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Do you know what the price of the

2911
02:40:37,480 --> 02:40:39,500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: imported rice is now, Sec? Even with

2912
02:40:39,500 --> 02:40:41,440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the price fluctuation

2913
02:40:41,440 --> 02:40:41,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng dollars?

2914
02:40:42,980 --> 02:40:45,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa ngayon, ang imported rice

2915
02:40:45,240 --> 02:40:49,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is about $450-$460

2916
02:40:49,340 --> 02:40:50,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: per ton.

2917
02:40:50,920 --> 02:40:52,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But ang freight, tumaas din eh.

2918
02:40:52,960 --> 02:40:54,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: $40 per ton yan.

2919
02:40:54,780 --> 02:40:55,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So,

2920
02:40:55,300 --> 02:40:57,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: you're assuming $500, $490 to

2921
02:40:57,340 --> 02:40:58,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: $500 per ton yan.

2922
02:40:58,880 --> 02:41:01,020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Per kilo, Mr. Secretary, para at least

2923
02:41:01,020 --> 02:41:03,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang imported rice should be

2924
02:41:03,520 --> 02:41:05,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: about ₱45 to

2925
02:41:05,260 --> 02:41:07,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ₱50 pesos per kilo.

2926
02:41:07,200 --> 02:41:07,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Landed.

2927
02:41:08,760 --> 02:41:09,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Retail na yan.

2928
02:41:11,260 --> 02:41:13,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, kung ₱45 yun,

2929
02:41:13,360 --> 02:41:15,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: minus ₱10, so ₱35 to

2930
02:41:15,660 --> 02:41:19,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ₱40 pesos landed,

2931
02:41:19,660 --> 02:41:19,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chairman.

2932
02:41:19,960 --> 02:41:22,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Check yung tariff natin dyan,

2933
02:41:22,960 --> 02:41:24,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: under the rice tarification law,

2934
02:41:24,360 --> 02:41:24,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: di ba, you,

2935
02:41:25,300 --> 02:41:27,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: you can allow importation as long as they

2936
02:41:27,380 --> 02:41:28,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pay the exact tariff?

2937
02:41:28,620 --> 02:41:31,340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Bumaba ba yung tariff ng imported rice

2938
02:41:31,340 --> 02:41:32,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: as from before?

2939
02:41:32,340 --> 02:41:35,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes. Dating, the RTL originally

2940
02:41:35,320 --> 02:41:37,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is 35% tariff.

2941
02:41:37,400 --> 02:41:39,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Now, it is at 15%, Mr. Chair.

2942
02:41:40,060 --> 02:41:41,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think that's, that is a

2943
02:41:41,420 --> 02:41:43,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: problem, but we're, I know it's a

2944
02:41:43,300 --> 02:41:45,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: balancing act once again, kasi imported rice

2945
02:41:45,400 --> 02:41:47,460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: tayo talagang

2946
02:41:47,460 --> 02:41:49,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: dumedepende

2947
02:41:49,380 --> 02:41:51,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: para sa

2948
02:41:51,180 --> 02:41:53,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pagkain ng taong bayan, pero

2949
02:41:53,200 --> 02:41:55,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the farmers have

2950
02:41:55,260 --> 02:41:57,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: given me feedback, sabi ng mga magsasaka,

2951
02:41:57,140 --> 02:41:59,220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: hindi na nila nararamdaman yung

2952
02:41:59,220 --> 02:42:01,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung tariff, yung

2953
02:42:01,420 --> 02:42:03,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: tulong sa mga magsasaka

2954
02:42:03,360 --> 02:42:05,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: galing sa taripa ng imported rice.

2955
02:42:05,820 --> 02:42:07,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Is there still a program

2956
02:42:07,200 --> 02:42:09,480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ongoing, pagbigay po

2957
02:42:09,480 --> 02:42:11,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nitong taripa

2958
02:42:11,360 --> 02:42:13,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa ating mga magsasaka? Kasi yan

2959
02:42:13,280 --> 02:42:15,020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang parang give and take, di ba? Sabi natin,

2960
02:42:15,360 --> 02:42:17,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sige, magkakaroon tayo ng importation,

2961
02:42:17,720 --> 02:42:19,520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pero yung taripa na ibibigay po,

2962
02:42:19,700 --> 02:42:21,460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay papataw

2963
02:42:21,460 --> 02:42:23,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: natin o ibibigay po natin dun sa

2964
02:42:23,280 --> 02:42:25,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga importers, ibibigay namin.

2965
02:42:25,260 --> 02:42:27,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sa inyo. So, were you able

2966
02:42:27,400 --> 02:42:29,440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to follow through? Has the DA been able to follow

2967
02:42:29,440 --> 02:42:31,500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: through with the assistance to rice

2968
02:42:31,500 --> 02:42:33,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: farmers? Mr. Chair, tuloy-tuloy naman

2969
02:42:33,260 --> 02:42:34,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung RSF natin.

2970
02:42:35,780 --> 02:42:37,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tuloy-tuloy yung pagbigay,

2971
02:42:37,360 --> 02:42:39,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but then, kung dapat na 30

2972
02:42:39,300 --> 02:42:41,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: billion ng fund, dahil binabaan taripa,

2973
02:42:41,680 --> 02:42:43,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang collection namin is ipabiba ng

2974
02:42:43,280 --> 02:42:45,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 13 billion lang, or 15

2975
02:42:45,280 --> 02:42:47,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: billion lang, depende sa taon. So,

2976
02:42:47,540 --> 02:42:49,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yun lang din ang nabibigay namin.

2977
02:42:49,780 --> 02:42:51,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, talagang mas

2978
02:42:51,180 --> 02:42:53,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mababa yung nabibigay ngayon, dahil

2979
02:42:53,280 --> 02:42:55,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mahina ang collection ho ng taripa.

2980
02:42:55,260 --> 02:42:57,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: How is the efficiency rate of that, Secretary?

2981
02:42:57,640 --> 02:42:58,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I mean, could you give the

2982
02:42:58,940 --> 02:43:01,560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: committee an idea dun sa

2983
02:43:01,560 --> 02:43:03,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: magkanong na tanggap ninyo

2984
02:43:03,360 --> 02:43:05,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: last year, magkanong ninyo inabas,

2985
02:43:05,280 --> 02:43:06,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and maybe we have a report on

2986
02:43:06,960 --> 02:43:09,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: expenditure of that?

2987
02:43:09,760 --> 02:43:10,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: O pagbigay po ninyo sa department?

2988
02:43:10,880 --> 02:43:13,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair. Actually, I find it quite efficient

2989
02:43:13,280 --> 02:43:15,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: naman yung pagdating doon, except for delayed

2990
02:43:15,320 --> 02:43:17,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: funding sometimes. We will submit

2991
02:43:17,280 --> 02:43:19,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: a report na lang, Mr. Chair, kasi maraming

2992
02:43:19,040 --> 02:43:19,750
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: detalya ho yun.

2993
02:43:19,750 --> 02:43:21,340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you. I have only four seconds

2994
02:43:21,340 --> 02:43:23,680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: left. Yung China ban on the Philippines

2995
02:43:23,680 --> 02:43:25,040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: SEC on fertilizer,

2996
02:43:25,260 --> 02:43:27,520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: malaking bagay yan. Alam mo naman,

2997
02:43:27,660 --> 02:43:29,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: galit yung China sa atin.

2998
02:43:29,640 --> 02:43:31,320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Gusto po nilang sakupin yung

2999
02:43:31,320 --> 02:43:33,480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: West Philippine Sea. Ang

3000
02:43:33,480 --> 02:43:35,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nangyari, because of that, ay

3001
02:43:35,180 --> 02:43:37,220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nagkaroon din po sila ng instructions

3002
02:43:37,220 --> 02:43:39,020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa mga fertilizer inputs,

3003
02:43:39,620 --> 02:43:40,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: chemicals, and

3004
02:43:40,900 --> 02:43:42,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pesticides to the Philippines.

3005
02:43:43,340 --> 02:43:44,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Do we have a

3006
02:43:44,400 --> 02:43:47,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: alternative? Does the DA have

3007
02:43:47,300 --> 02:43:48,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: an alternative on this?

3008
02:43:48,800 --> 02:43:51,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, ang unang una, we don't

3009
02:43:51,280 --> 02:43:52,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: know of any official ban

3010
02:43:52,800 --> 02:43:54,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng China to the

3011
02:43:54,920 --> 02:43:57,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Philippines. May mga tsismis

3012
02:43:57,140 --> 02:43:58,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na gano'n, but

3013
02:43:58,800 --> 02:44:00,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: unsubstantiated pa

3014
02:44:00,660 --> 02:44:02,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na naman. So, sa ngayon,

3015
02:44:02,980 --> 02:44:04,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tuloy-tuloy naman ang flow ng

3016
02:44:04,460 --> 02:44:06,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fertilizer. In fact, yesterday,

3017
02:44:06,760 --> 02:44:08,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I consulted with our

3018
02:44:08,360 --> 02:44:11,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fertilizer and pesticide authority,

3019
02:44:11,740 --> 02:44:12,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and this morning,

3020
02:44:12,580 --> 02:44:15,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: communication na with the industry,

3021
02:44:15,600 --> 02:44:17,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is tuloy-tuloy naman yung pasok.

3022
02:44:17,300 --> 02:44:18,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang problema lang talaga, mas

3023
02:44:18,880 --> 02:44:20,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mahal dahil sa fuel

3024
02:44:20,720 --> 02:44:22,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: state of fuel prices.

3025
02:44:22,880 --> 02:44:24,440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: But, with that said,

3026
02:44:24,920 --> 02:44:27,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Secretary, what if there's a possibility na magkaroon

3027
02:44:27,100 --> 02:44:29,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng ban? Have you thought about coming up with

3028
02:44:29,000 --> 02:44:30,460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: alternative avenues for

3029
02:44:30,460 --> 02:44:33,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fertilizer? Oh, yes. Mr. Chair,

3030
02:44:33,800 --> 02:44:34,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: there's alternative

3031
02:44:34,540 --> 02:44:37,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fertilizers, no? Of course,

3032
02:44:37,220 --> 02:44:38,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: chicken manure is one from

3033
02:44:38,740 --> 02:44:40,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: processed chicken manure, no?

3034
02:44:41,400 --> 02:44:43,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pati yung local industry

3035
02:44:43,080 --> 02:44:45,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: natin dito, medyo marami

3036
02:44:45,360 --> 02:44:47,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng gumagawa, no? That's the

3037
02:44:47,080 --> 02:44:49,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: positive side. And the DA is pushing for

3038
02:44:49,140 --> 02:44:51,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that composting system

3039
02:44:51,240 --> 02:44:53,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for chicken manure and

3040
02:44:53,100 --> 02:44:54,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: other

3041
02:44:54,920 --> 02:44:57,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: by-product ng ating mga

3042
02:44:57,940 --> 02:45:00,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: livestock sector. But then, we have

3043
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:04,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: of foil air fertilizers, biofertilizers, and soil conditioners

3044
02:45:04,080 --> 02:45:06,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na mas mura and equally as effective.

3045
02:45:06,720 --> 02:45:09,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kailangan lang tanggapin ng ating mga magsasaka

3046
02:45:09,200 --> 02:45:13,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na these are the new alternatives that is available

3047
02:45:13,940 --> 02:45:19,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at a lower price per hectare at mas makanda pa ang kita nila.

3048
02:45:20,120 --> 02:45:25,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In fact, I have a personal farm na pinabili ko sa anak ko

3049
02:45:25,100 --> 02:45:26,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at tinanimang ko ng bigasa.

3050
02:45:26,800 --> 02:45:28,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Hindi ako gumamit ng urea.

3051
02:45:28,020 --> 02:45:32,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And the margins they made were quite okay

3052
02:45:32,040 --> 02:45:35,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: using these alternative systems, Mr. Chair.

3053
02:45:35,620 --> 02:45:37,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you, Chairman, Mr. Secretary.

3054
02:45:37,380 --> 02:45:40,460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: But aside from the alternative systems,

3055
02:45:40,580 --> 02:45:42,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think one of the reasons kasi pinapromote ko din

3056
02:45:42,600 --> 02:45:45,560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung organic fertilizer, it's the volume, Secretary,

3057
02:45:45,740 --> 02:45:48,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kasi kailangan mo sa isang bag ng urea,

3058
02:45:48,860 --> 02:45:52,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kailangan mo ng isang tuneladang chicken manure.

3059
02:45:52,740 --> 02:45:54,780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kaya yung mga farmers na iba,

3060
02:45:55,740 --> 02:45:58,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: wala silang capacity to put all these,

3061
02:45:58,020 --> 02:46:00,680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the large amounts of organic fertilizer

3062
02:46:00,680 --> 02:46:01,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to be able to be spread out.

3063
02:46:01,980 --> 02:46:04,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pero I'm with you 1,000% because it is a soil enhancer

3064
02:46:04,900 --> 02:46:07,040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and it rejuvenates the soil.

3065
02:46:07,660 --> 02:46:09,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: But my question talaga is,

3066
02:46:09,620 --> 02:46:13,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think we should look into other avenues

3067
02:46:13,400 --> 02:46:16,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: of fertilizer distribution and importation

3068
02:46:16,920 --> 02:46:19,020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: from other friendly countries like Indonesia

3069
02:46:19,020 --> 02:46:24,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: or Malaysia where they have petroleum products

3070
02:46:24,900 --> 02:46:27,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kasi urea is a byproduct of petroleum.

3071
02:46:27,200 --> 02:46:30,440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So kailangan natin maghanap ng bagong avenues

3072
02:46:30,440 --> 02:46:33,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: just in case, Secretary, we never know where this escalates,

3073
02:46:34,220 --> 02:46:36,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: but just in case, Mr. Secretary.

3074
02:46:36,900 --> 02:46:40,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So just a little information, point of information,

3075
02:46:40,720 --> 02:46:42,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: para we don't get caught off guard,

3076
02:46:42,500 --> 02:46:44,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: particularly on importation and inputs.

3077
02:46:46,740 --> 02:46:48,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: You know, yesterday, Mr. Chairman,

3078
02:46:48,520 --> 02:46:51,720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I had a talk with one of the members of the Central Bank.

3079
02:46:52,220 --> 02:46:55,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: My worry is there is no actionable,

3080
02:46:55,200 --> 02:46:57,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: there's no action on the,

3081
02:46:57,200 --> 02:46:59,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: increase on dollar rates.

3082
02:46:59,520 --> 02:47:01,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Parang ang gusto yata ng Central Bank

3083
02:47:01,980 --> 02:47:04,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: is let it go where it will go.

3084
02:47:05,740 --> 02:47:07,680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Delikado po yan, Mr. Chairman.

3085
02:47:07,900 --> 02:47:09,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think we should also, in the budget hearings

3086
02:47:09,820 --> 02:47:11,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: or deliberations of the Central Bank,

3087
02:47:11,380 --> 02:47:14,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I would like to ask Banco Central Governor Remolino

3088
02:47:14,260 --> 02:47:16,640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na napakahirap yan because

3089
02:47:16,640 --> 02:47:18,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: although ang gusto daw nila

3090
02:47:18,580 --> 02:47:20,660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: is to promote exports,

3091
02:47:21,640 --> 02:47:22,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: of what?

3092
02:47:22,880 --> 02:47:25,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We cannot just promote exports biglaan.

3093
02:47:25,200 --> 02:47:27,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We have to strengthen the industry.

3094
02:47:27,200 --> 02:47:29,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: To be able to promote the exports.

3095
02:47:29,920 --> 02:47:30,840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So for the meantime,

3096
02:47:31,220 --> 02:47:32,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pabayaan lang po natin na

3097
02:47:32,820 --> 02:47:35,660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: let the peso fall

3098
02:47:35,660 --> 02:47:37,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to where it may against the dollar.

3099
02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:40,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kawawa po lahat ng kababayan natin.

3100
02:47:40,220 --> 02:47:40,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kawawa po.

3101
02:47:41,420 --> 02:47:43,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: From fuel, from gasoline,

3102
02:47:43,320 --> 02:47:45,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: from imported products,

3103
02:47:45,340 --> 02:47:46,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: lahat ay imported.

3104
02:47:46,320 --> 02:47:48,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pati sa agrikultura na yun,

3105
02:47:48,660 --> 02:47:50,860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pesticides and fertilizers, all imported.

3106
02:47:51,600 --> 02:47:52,860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yung equipment nila,

3107
02:47:53,020 --> 02:47:55,500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: wala namang kubota ginagawa dito na tractor.

3108
02:47:55,500 --> 02:47:57,040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Lahat po ay galing Japan,

3109
02:47:57,200 --> 02:47:59,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: China or the US,

3110
02:47:59,400 --> 02:48:00,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ford tractors.

3111
02:48:00,320 --> 02:48:01,460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Everything is imported.

3112
02:48:02,220 --> 02:48:04,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kaya naawa po ako sa ating mga magsasaka.

3113
02:48:04,460 --> 02:48:07,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think it's a perfect storm

3114
02:48:07,380 --> 02:48:08,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: as you said earlier on the El Nino.

3115
02:48:09,000 --> 02:48:10,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think it's also a perfect storm

3116
02:48:10,300 --> 02:48:13,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na bumababa yung presyo ng value

3117
02:48:13,620 --> 02:48:15,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng peso sa dollar.

3118
02:48:15,760 --> 02:48:17,840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Tapos tumataas pa ang presyo ng gasolina.

3119
02:48:19,160 --> 02:48:19,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ang hirap.

3120
02:48:20,140 --> 02:48:21,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ang hirap po ng situation ng sekretary.

3121
02:48:22,060 --> 02:48:22,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I don't blame you, Sec.

3122
02:48:23,220 --> 02:48:24,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: You know, pumapayat ka nga eh.

3123
02:48:24,620 --> 02:48:26,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kaya naawa ako sir.

3124
02:48:26,120 --> 02:48:26,780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pumapayat si sekretary.

3125
02:48:27,200 --> 02:48:28,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dati malusog yan.

3126
02:48:29,040 --> 02:48:29,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ano yung pumapayat?

3127
02:48:30,040 --> 02:48:31,440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dahil siguro sa stress yan.

3128
02:48:32,040 --> 02:48:34,680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, pinapatawa lang po kayo, Sec.

3129
02:48:34,700 --> 02:48:35,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I don't want to put you in that seat.

3130
02:48:36,020 --> 02:48:38,440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We've been friends for 35 years.

3131
02:48:39,040 --> 02:48:40,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, ang akin lang is,

3132
02:48:41,360 --> 02:48:43,640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I hope also that the House of Representatives

3133
02:48:43,640 --> 02:48:45,520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: take note of the bills that we passed

3134
02:48:45,520 --> 02:48:48,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: on the extension services.

3135
02:48:48,700 --> 02:48:51,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think the secretary needs that law to be passed

3136
02:48:51,160 --> 02:48:53,660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: because the DA needs extension services

3137
02:48:53,660 --> 02:48:55,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to really go to the ground

3138
02:48:55,200 --> 02:48:57,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and be felt in the ground.

3139
02:48:57,200 --> 02:49:00,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We cannot just...

3140
02:49:00,200 --> 02:49:01,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sorry na lang ha.

3141
02:49:01,480 --> 02:49:06,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Makagalit sa akin yung mga PAO and mga MAO.

3142
02:49:06,580 --> 02:49:08,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Municipal Agricultural Officers.

3143
02:49:08,240 --> 02:49:09,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We need provincial agricultural officers.

3144
02:49:10,460 --> 02:49:12,680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: The DA needs people on the ground

3145
02:49:12,680 --> 02:49:15,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to tell them what is going on from the top.

3146
02:49:15,800 --> 02:49:18,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: What are the reforms being done on the ground?

3147
02:49:18,900 --> 02:49:20,840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kailangan talagang nilang sundalo sa baba.

3148
02:49:21,620 --> 02:49:25,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, I just have one last if I may, Mr. Chairman.

3149
02:49:25,320 --> 02:49:26,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Paano nila ako magsisecond round?

3150
02:49:27,200 --> 02:49:29,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

3151
02:49:29,760 --> 02:49:31,520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dito sa...

3152
02:49:31,520 --> 02:49:36,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, at least, we talked about alternatives on fertilizers

3153
02:49:36,000 --> 02:49:38,780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and inputs from other countries.

3154
02:49:39,060 --> 02:49:41,340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We have to discuss how we can also tame

3155
02:49:41,340 --> 02:49:45,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the high inflation rates na talagang piktado

3156
02:49:45,180 --> 02:49:46,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung taong bayan natin.

3157
02:49:46,760 --> 02:49:49,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Also, due to the fact of the falling peso to the dollar.

3158
02:49:51,960 --> 02:49:54,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Some good news, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Secretary.

3159
02:49:54,740 --> 02:49:56,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We passed the Kawayan Act,

3160
02:49:56,580 --> 02:49:57,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the Bamboo Law,

3161
02:49:57,200 --> 02:49:58,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and we passed the DPR Act.

3162
02:49:58,200 --> 02:49:58,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We passed the DPR Act.

3163
02:49:58,240 --> 02:50:00,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Finally, both House and the Senate

3164
02:50:00,960 --> 02:50:02,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: will be meeting during the break

3165
02:50:02,380 --> 02:50:05,460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to come up with an acceptable language

3166
02:50:05,460 --> 02:50:07,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: for the Bicameral Conference Committee report.

3167
02:50:08,260 --> 02:50:10,500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think we're leaning towards the DA again

3168
02:50:10,500 --> 02:50:17,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: as being the number one source of motivation

3169
02:50:17,900 --> 02:50:20,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and moral support for this law to pass.

3170
02:50:21,000 --> 02:50:25,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kasi matagal po yung away ninyo sa DNR, sa DTI, di ba po?

3171
02:50:25,160 --> 02:50:26,680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, ang ginawa po natin, ako,

3172
02:50:27,200 --> 02:50:30,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: may bias to the DA because I'm also a resident agriculturist

3173
02:50:30,900 --> 02:50:32,540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and a licensed agriculturist at that.

3174
02:50:33,180 --> 02:50:37,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We can now promote high-value farming

3175
02:50:37,740 --> 02:50:39,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: like with kawayan, bamboo.

3176
02:50:40,760 --> 02:50:42,540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yesterday, I was in Bay Laguna

3177
02:50:42,540 --> 02:50:44,680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: buying a bonsai, bogambilya.

3178
02:50:45,440 --> 02:50:46,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Napaka-mahal.

3179
02:50:46,900 --> 02:50:49,540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At sabi ko nga, isang bogambilya lang na maganda

3180
02:50:49,540 --> 02:50:53,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay napaka-laki na ng income ng farmer na ito.

3181
02:50:53,160 --> 02:50:56,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, I think we should start looking into other

3182
02:50:56,100 --> 02:50:57,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: high-value companies.

3183
02:50:57,200 --> 02:50:59,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We can also concentrate on plantation crops

3184
02:50:59,940 --> 02:51:02,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: for our farmers para maiba din po yung dumami din po ito,

3185
02:51:02,960 --> 02:51:04,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: lumakas po ang kanilang kita at benta.

3186
02:51:05,000 --> 02:51:07,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, I hope we can also concentrate, Sec,

3187
02:51:08,040 --> 02:51:12,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: not only on plantation crops like corn, like sugar,

3188
02:51:12,820 --> 02:51:16,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: like, of course, rice.

3189
02:51:17,360 --> 02:51:20,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We can look into high-value horticulture.

3190
02:51:20,860 --> 02:51:23,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sana po buhayin ninyo pong mga department,

3191
02:51:24,180 --> 02:51:26,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa department, yung mga bureau ninyo ng horticulture

3192
02:51:26,900 --> 02:51:27,760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and high-value crops.

3193
02:51:27,880 --> 02:51:30,780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Nandyan si Usec Sheryl, high-value crops yan.

3194
02:51:31,320 --> 02:51:32,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: That is a shining light.

3195
02:51:33,740 --> 02:51:35,560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Alam mo paano ko nahanap po, Mr. Chairman,

3196
02:51:35,700 --> 02:51:36,660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung bogambilya na yan?

3197
02:51:37,280 --> 02:51:37,640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Facebook.

3198
02:51:38,400 --> 02:51:39,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Facebook lang.

3199
02:51:39,180 --> 02:51:40,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Gagaling na nila mag-market.

3200
02:51:40,640 --> 02:51:42,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, pag nakita mo Facebook, nandyan yung address.

3201
02:51:42,900 --> 02:51:44,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Puntahan ng mga buyers.

3202
02:51:44,380 --> 02:51:46,720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: They told me they, because of Facebook market,

3203
02:51:46,940 --> 02:51:48,860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang dami po nilang naibibenta.

3204
02:51:49,000 --> 02:51:51,480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, there are other opportunities for farmers

3205
02:51:51,480 --> 02:51:54,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: with small areas that can make a lot of money.

3206
02:51:54,960 --> 02:51:56,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, we can look into that.

3207
02:51:56,400 --> 02:51:57,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Because at the end of the day,

3208
02:51:57,480 --> 02:52:00,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang gusto po natin, taasan po ang kita ng ating mga magsasaka.

3209
02:52:00,520 --> 02:52:03,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At hindi lamang po silang nakabinbin,

3210
02:52:03,480 --> 02:52:07,020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nakasalalay sa isang monocrop.

3211
02:52:07,240 --> 02:52:09,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I hope that we can do that also, Secretary.

3212
02:52:09,640 --> 02:52:11,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: May we just ask for a comment from the Secretary?

3213
02:52:12,620 --> 02:52:16,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Definitely, Mr. Chair, horticulture is on the agenda.

3214
02:52:17,100 --> 02:52:18,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We have a small budget for that.

3215
02:52:19,240 --> 02:52:23,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Plus, the DA, along with the DTI and other government agencies,

3216
02:52:23,340 --> 02:52:26,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we're actually sponsoring sa Japan,

3217
02:52:26,400 --> 02:52:33,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we will have a major booth in a horticulture show in Yokohama in March 2027.

3218
02:52:33,800 --> 02:52:36,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Maybe may imbita ko kayo doon.

3219
02:52:36,560 --> 02:52:45,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At I really see, personally see that horticulture is an alternative business

3220
02:52:45,260 --> 02:52:49,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for our farmers and fisher folks.

3221
02:52:49,380 --> 02:52:54,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron niyang mga plants na binibenta for 20,000 pesos, 10,000 pesos,

3222
02:52:54,140 --> 02:52:55,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or kids man, o ganoon.

3223
02:52:56,400 --> 02:52:59,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Even baka sa Benguet, pwede na magkaroon ng tulips,

3224
02:53:00,020 --> 02:53:02,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung type na ganoon, at magaganda pa.

3225
02:53:02,560 --> 02:53:03,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Magandang pag-asa dyan.

3226
02:53:04,280 --> 02:53:10,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nakita ko sa ibang bansa na well-regulated and well-developed yan,

3227
02:53:10,440 --> 02:53:11,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kaya tulad ng Thailand.

3228
02:53:12,700 --> 02:53:17,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So gusto nating tularan yun at maging major industry din.

3229
02:53:17,540 --> 02:53:17,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you, sir.

3230
02:53:18,200 --> 02:53:18,500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you.

3231
02:53:18,580 --> 02:53:21,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kasi ako, Mr. Chairman, may ilig ako sa ornamental plants.

3232
02:53:21,180 --> 02:53:23,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So tama po sinabi yung Secretary, orchids.

3233
02:53:23,960 --> 02:53:26,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: As a matter of fact, namili po ako nung isang araw ng May,

3234
02:53:26,400 --> 02:53:32,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: maple trees, yung mga maple plants na yung nga lang mukhang mariwana,

3235
02:53:32,540 --> 02:53:35,340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: baka marid bigla yung farm ko, pero hindi mariwana yun.

3236
02:53:35,640 --> 02:53:37,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Maple trees yun na seedlings.

3237
02:53:38,140 --> 02:53:40,460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ba, tagwa 1,500 din, kada isa, 1,000.

3238
02:53:40,720 --> 02:53:42,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So laki din ang income.

3239
02:53:42,440 --> 02:53:46,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So tama po si Secretary, there's a lot of things that we can do here in the Philippines

3240
02:53:46,620 --> 02:53:51,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: that can really augment the farmers, not only focusing on our plantation crops.

3241
02:53:52,200 --> 02:53:56,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And finally, Mr. Chairman, so ayong information sa kawayan, Secretary,

3242
02:53:56,400 --> 02:53:59,540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: malapit na po yan, baka matulungan niyo po kami.

3243
02:53:59,640 --> 02:54:03,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We're leaning towards the DAS, the Implementing Agency for that SEC.

3244
02:54:03,280 --> 02:54:04,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Okay lang po sa inyo yan.

3245
02:54:04,440 --> 02:54:13,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We support that fully and I'm an avid believer in the bamboo industry and its benefits, Mr. Chair.

3246
02:54:13,560 --> 02:54:14,020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you.

3247
02:54:14,160 --> 02:54:19,720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Oo nga, kasi yung pati nga airport namin sa Bukidnon, we're retrofitting it with bamboo inside.

3248
02:54:19,720 --> 02:54:25,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yung gagawin na yata, I think, in the Region 8 sa Tacloban Airport,

3249
02:54:25,140 --> 02:54:26,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: they already used bamboo.

3250
02:54:26,400 --> 02:54:28,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Inside for the finishing.

3251
02:54:28,540 --> 02:54:33,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So ginagawa din po namin sa Bukidnon yan with our Bukidnon Airport using Bukidnon bamboo.

3252
02:54:33,560 --> 02:54:35,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So thank you, Secretary, for the support there.

3253
02:54:35,360 --> 02:54:40,520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We have actually a huge buyer in Cagayan de Oro.

3254
02:54:40,760 --> 02:54:41,780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I forget the name.

3255
02:54:42,200 --> 02:54:44,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yung kay Cito Lorenzo at Rizone.

3256
02:54:45,280 --> 02:54:48,480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: They buy whatever they can produce there na bamboo.

3257
02:54:48,660 --> 02:54:50,640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At magagandang pong farmgate prices nila.

3258
02:54:51,180 --> 02:54:53,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So marami po kaming farmers, Mr. Chairman.

3259
02:54:54,160 --> 02:54:56,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dati, ang subsistence farmgate.

3260
02:54:56,400 --> 02:54:59,680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Farmers lang po sila, corn and plant rice.

3261
02:54:59,840 --> 02:55:00,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ngayon, bamboo na sila.

3262
02:55:00,880 --> 02:55:02,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: They're making a lot of money out of the bamboo.

3263
02:55:03,200 --> 02:55:07,460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And tamas talaga yung kanilang livelihood opportunities, Your Honor.

3264
02:55:07,540 --> 02:55:11,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So finally, I will be remiss to ask, if I don't ask this,

3265
02:55:11,360 --> 02:55:14,060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kasi po ako yung taga, of course, taga Bukidnon po ako,

3266
02:55:14,160 --> 02:55:15,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pero originally taga Negro-Soxidental.

3267
02:55:16,640 --> 02:55:21,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kamag-anak ko yan, na malayo, si Paul Ascuna, yung inyong SRA chairman,

3268
02:55:22,420 --> 02:55:24,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: on the RSSI.

3269
02:55:24,780 --> 02:55:26,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kami natamaan din po kami sa Bukidnon.

3270
02:55:26,460 --> 02:55:30,540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We appreciate a lot of the work that SRA has been doing.

3271
02:55:30,680 --> 02:55:34,360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We're just seeking more support from the mother organization, the DA,

3272
02:55:34,960 --> 02:55:36,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and the DSWD.

3273
02:55:36,240 --> 02:55:39,220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We'd like to thank Secretary Rex Gatchalian,

3274
02:55:39,340 --> 02:55:42,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nagbigay po siya ng tulong sa mga farmers na natamaan ng RSSI.

3275
02:55:43,200 --> 02:55:45,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ito po, sa marami pong nanunood na yan,

3276
02:55:45,300 --> 02:55:51,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: at nakikinig, yung RSSI, ito po isang peste na tumatama po sa atin sa industriya ng tubo.

3277
02:55:51,320 --> 02:55:54,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Bukidnon is the second largest producer of sugar in the country,

3278
02:55:54,620 --> 02:55:56,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: next to Negro-Soxidental.

3279
02:55:56,400 --> 02:56:01,760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And malaking epekto po ito, chairman, sa ating mga magsasaka.

3280
02:56:02,260 --> 02:56:04,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pag natamaan po silang ginagawa po nila,

3281
02:56:04,460 --> 02:56:12,660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: itong SRA na pesting ito, kinakain po nila yung dahon ng mga tubo ng tanim.

3282
02:56:13,200 --> 02:56:19,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At dahil dyan, napakalaki ng gastos, of course, if you use pesticides for the prevention of this.

3283
02:56:20,860 --> 02:56:24,060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kung sa Bisaya, padayon lang po, padayon sa inyong programa.

3284
02:56:24,060 --> 02:56:25,540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At tuloy nyo lang po.

3285
02:56:26,400 --> 02:56:29,800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We just want you to know that we don't want to kill the sugar industry as well.

3286
02:56:30,500 --> 02:56:33,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We want to make sure that the sugar industry survives.

3287
02:56:33,800 --> 02:56:39,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: This is still a very important product for our people, lalo na sa mga farmers.

3288
02:56:39,920 --> 02:56:46,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And this time, 90% po, dati ka po sinabi nyo po, sugar farmers, mga hasyendero.

3289
02:56:46,600 --> 02:56:49,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ngayon po, 90% po ay small farmers.

3290
02:56:49,940 --> 02:56:52,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: These are agrarian reform beneficiaries.

3291
02:56:52,200 --> 02:56:56,380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And I'd like to ask an opinion of the good gentleman,

3292
02:56:56,400 --> 02:56:59,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: from Cabangkalan, my hometown of Cabangkalan,

3293
02:57:00,520 --> 02:57:02,060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: on his opinion.

3294
02:57:02,340 --> 02:57:07,340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And if he needs more help, maybe he can say it today, Mr. Chairman,

3295
02:57:07,980 --> 02:57:11,820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: lalo na in light of this fact of the RSSI and the El Nino.

3296
02:57:12,200 --> 02:57:16,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: May we recognize also a few moments to our SRA chairman.

3297
02:57:16,340 --> 02:57:19,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Maybe he may need more help that we can infuse to the budget of the DA

3298
02:57:19,980 --> 02:57:23,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to help on this crisis, Your Honor, Mr. Chairman.

3299
02:57:23,720 --> 02:57:25,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, go ahead, Mr. Escona.

3300
02:57:26,400 --> 02:57:27,400
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

3301
02:57:27,780 --> 02:57:31,040
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Thank you, Senator Subiri.

3302
02:57:31,480 --> 02:57:36,580
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Yes po, we've been fighting RSSI for a couple of years in Luzon

3303
02:57:36,580 --> 02:57:40,040
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: and in Negros, two years in Bukidnon.

3304
02:57:40,160 --> 02:57:41,020
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: This is the first year.

3305
02:57:41,600 --> 02:57:45,660
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Last year, we tried our best to quarantine Bukidnon

3306
02:57:45,660 --> 02:57:49,540
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: and protect it from RSSI coming from Negros.

3307
02:57:49,540 --> 02:57:54,820
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: However, it arrived in Davao and somehow made its way to Bukidnon.

3308
02:57:55,480 --> 02:57:55,680
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Now,

3309
02:57:56,400 --> 02:58:01,360
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: yes, we do need more support, especially budget-wise.

3310
02:58:01,360 --> 02:58:09,980
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: We greatly appreciate the help of the DA by extending budget down to SRA to help.

3311
02:58:10,740 --> 02:58:14,160
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Concurrently, we're using pesticides, which is very expensive.

3312
02:58:14,800 --> 02:58:20,360
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: However, the Secretary already came up with a program wherein LGUs,

3313
02:58:21,220 --> 02:58:25,200
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: farmer associations, our meal district development councils,

3314
02:58:25,380 --> 02:58:26,080
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: which are private,

3315
02:58:26,400 --> 02:58:33,740
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: and other organizations are encouraged to make their own biocontrol laboratories.

3316
02:58:34,680 --> 02:58:39,860
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: SRA and the DA will provide the fungi, the mother fungi,

3317
02:58:40,220 --> 02:58:45,620
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: that we have tested, and it's proven to help control RSSI.

3318
02:58:45,800 --> 02:58:47,580
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: It's a lot slower than pesticide,

3319
02:58:47,580 --> 02:58:50,860
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: but we need to bring it down to the grassroots level,

3320
02:58:51,600 --> 02:58:52,760
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Senator and Mr. Chair,

3321
02:58:53,120 --> 02:58:56,380
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: to make it accessible.

3322
02:58:56,400 --> 02:59:03,160
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So, I think with your help, with the Chairman's help,

3323
02:59:03,500 --> 02:59:04,920
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: we do need budget for it.

3324
02:59:06,260 --> 02:59:13,500
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: There were already LGUs in Negros who signified that they are willing to go

3325
02:59:13,500 --> 02:59:16,280
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: and collaborate with the DA and organize these laboratories.

3326
02:59:16,600 --> 02:59:18,120
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: This is for the future use.

3327
02:59:18,540 --> 02:59:20,940
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: We believe RSSI will be here to stay.

3328
02:59:21,060 --> 02:59:22,900
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: It's very hard to totally eradicate.

3329
02:59:22,900 --> 02:59:25,700
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: But we just, according to the countries who

3330
02:59:26,400 --> 02:59:28,560
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: had RSSI or still have RSSI,

3331
02:59:28,900 --> 02:59:32,440
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: we just have to learn and live with it and control it in the biocontrol way.

3332
02:59:32,520 --> 02:59:35,000
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: We cannot continually use chemical pesticides.

3333
02:59:35,740 --> 02:59:36,960
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: It is not sustainable.

3334
02:59:37,240 --> 02:59:39,400
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So, hopefully, hopefully,

3335
02:59:39,620 --> 02:59:44,840
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: the committee can give us an additional budget specifically for our SSI.

3336
02:59:45,340 --> 02:59:47,520
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And on the other hand,

3337
02:59:47,580 --> 02:59:50,120
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: El Nino mitigation as well, Mr. Secretary.

3338
02:59:50,400 --> 02:59:50,920
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Mr. Chair?

3339
02:59:51,020 --> 02:59:51,560
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Mr. Chair.

3340
02:59:53,140 --> 02:59:53,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sorry.

3341
02:59:54,160 --> 02:59:56,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Just on that, just I'd like to support,

3342
02:59:56,400 --> 02:59:57,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Senator Subiri on that.

3343
02:59:58,220 --> 02:59:59,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And Mr. Chairman, a bit of...

3344
02:59:59,880 --> 03:00:02,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: institutional memory. If you will

3345
03:00:02,180 --> 03:00:04,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: recall, the law that

3346
03:00:04,160 --> 03:00:06,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: created the sugar

3347
03:00:06,120 --> 03:00:10,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the SIDA law actually

3348
03:00:10,220 --> 03:00:12,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: originally appropriated a

3349
03:00:12,240 --> 03:00:13,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: total amount of 2 billion

3350
03:00:13,940 --> 03:00:16,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and that 2 billion was

3351
03:00:16,300 --> 03:00:18,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: reduced to 500 million

3352
03:00:18,000 --> 03:00:20,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: because of its incapacity to disperse

3353
03:00:20,480 --> 03:00:21,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and spend except

3354
03:00:21,980 --> 03:00:24,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on farm-to-market roads

3355
03:00:24,060 --> 03:00:25,680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and as a result,

3356
03:00:26,160 --> 03:00:28,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: they've had this very small budget

3357
03:00:28,000 --> 03:00:30,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: since then, but the original intent

3358
03:00:30,100 --> 03:00:32,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: which was long, long ago, 2 billion

3359
03:00:32,320 --> 03:00:33,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na yan, na-reduce yan.

3360
03:00:34,120 --> 03:00:35,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya I think there is really room

3361
03:00:35,960 --> 03:00:38,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: given El Nino as well as RSSI

3362
03:00:38,600 --> 03:00:40,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to increase it

3363
03:00:40,160 --> 03:00:42,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: as our Senator Subiri

3364
03:00:42,100 --> 03:00:42,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: said.

3365
03:00:43,420 --> 03:00:45,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And just to add, you have not

3366
03:00:45,960 --> 03:00:47,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: unlike the other agencies,

3367
03:00:48,280 --> 03:00:50,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you have to submit your

3368
03:00:50,020 --> 03:00:51,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: request for additional funding. You have not

3369
03:00:51,880 --> 03:00:52,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: submitted it.

3370
03:00:53,660 --> 03:00:55,540
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

3371
03:00:55,680 --> 03:00:56,580
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: We'll do it.

3372
03:00:56,860 --> 03:00:57,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We intend

3373
03:00:57,980 --> 03:00:59,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to finalize our

3374
03:00:59,320 --> 03:01:01,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: subcommittee report by Friday, so

3375
03:01:01,980 --> 03:01:03,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you have to submit it before then.

3376
03:01:03,980 --> 03:01:05,740
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Okay, Mr. Chair. Thank you very much.

3377
03:01:05,940 --> 03:01:08,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: On a final note, Mr. Chair, because I have a meeting

3378
03:01:08,100 --> 03:01:10,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: with the JAICA head, I think they're worried

3379
03:01:10,120 --> 03:01:12,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: about their, not at 1 o'clock,

3380
03:01:12,320 --> 03:01:14,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: they were worried about the

3381
03:01:14,080 --> 03:01:15,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: cut on their

3382
03:01:15,100 --> 03:01:16,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: foreign-assisted

3383
03:01:16,920 --> 03:01:20,420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: counterpart from the Philippines.

3384
03:01:22,080 --> 03:01:22,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So,

3385
03:01:22,360 --> 03:01:24,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: before I go, I just want to

3386
03:01:24,200 --> 03:01:26,320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: say good luck to you,

3387
03:01:26,380 --> 03:01:27,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sir. I know

3388
03:01:27,980 --> 03:01:30,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sec Kiko for a long, long

3389
03:01:30,280 --> 03:01:31,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: time. He comes from a great school,

3390
03:01:32,140 --> 03:01:34,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Savior. My kids are also in Savior. I'm a

3391
03:01:34,140 --> 03:01:36,500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Savior dad. Magaling yan.

3392
03:01:36,880 --> 03:01:38,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's the other

3393
03:01:38,160 --> 03:01:39,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: good school along Ortega.

3394
03:01:40,280 --> 03:01:40,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yes, sir.

3395
03:01:41,880 --> 03:01:43,800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Lasal pala ito. O nga, o nga.

3396
03:01:44,340 --> 03:01:46,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, Lasal Green Hills pala ito.

3397
03:01:47,960 --> 03:01:48,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So,

3398
03:01:48,940 --> 03:01:50,040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung akin lang, Sec,

3399
03:01:50,200 --> 03:01:52,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: gamitin mo ng gilas mo. Matapang yan.

3400
03:01:52,380 --> 03:01:53,680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kasama ko sa bakbakan yan.

3401
03:01:53,900 --> 03:01:55,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Commercial artist yan si Sec Kiko

3402
03:01:55,960 --> 03:01:56,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa labanan.

3403
03:01:57,980 --> 03:01:59,300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Hindi nagbaback out yan.

3404
03:01:59,820 --> 03:02:02,320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, Sec, when it comes to pricing on the

3405
03:02:02,320 --> 03:02:04,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: para naman matuwa

3406
03:02:04,260 --> 03:02:05,040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa atin yung mga

3407
03:02:05,040 --> 03:02:08,080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: hog farmers and poultry farmers,

3408
03:02:08,220 --> 03:02:09,920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sec, use your gilas.

3409
03:02:10,060 --> 03:02:12,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Use your tapang,

3410
03:02:12,160 --> 03:02:14,060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sec. Yan, nandyan si

3411
03:02:14,060 --> 03:02:16,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Usec Itos. Gagamitin ko ulit. Matapang

3412
03:02:16,280 --> 03:02:18,040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yan. Padala mo dun sa mga merkado

3413
03:02:18,040 --> 03:02:20,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: for predatory pricing. Siya padala mo.

3414
03:02:20,240 --> 03:02:21,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Magaling sa shotgun yan.

3415
03:02:21,880 --> 03:02:23,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At hindi natatakot yan.

3416
03:02:23,580 --> 03:02:24,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Tagalas sa Green Hills yan.

3417
03:02:25,200 --> 03:02:26,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Tagalas sa Green Hills.

3418
03:02:27,180 --> 03:02:27,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, Sec,

3419
03:02:27,980 --> 03:02:29,100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yun lang. I just want

3420
03:02:29,100 --> 03:02:31,860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: you to make that

3421
03:02:31,860 --> 03:02:33,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: impact on the ground. I know you're

3422
03:02:33,740 --> 03:02:35,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: tough. I know you can do it.

3423
03:02:35,700 --> 03:02:37,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Don't be afraid to show your

3424
03:02:37,200 --> 03:02:39,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: emotion on the ground.

3425
03:02:40,040 --> 03:02:41,500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Lalo na sa TV. Matutuwa yung

3426
03:02:41,500 --> 03:02:43,560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: taong bahayin dyan. Because

3427
03:02:43,560 --> 03:02:44,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: there's farmers in the farm.

3428
03:02:45,380 --> 03:02:47,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: The farmers, lalo na yung 80%,

3429
03:02:47,200 --> 03:02:49,980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: they're suffering now. Talagang hirap na hirap sila.

3430
03:02:50,320 --> 03:02:50,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, they need

3431
03:02:50,900 --> 03:02:52,720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the actionable

3432
03:02:52,720 --> 03:02:55,880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: assistance from the

3433
03:02:55,880 --> 03:02:57,320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: DA. Makita talaga nila.

3434
03:02:57,980 --> 03:02:59,480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think, yun lamang eh. Kasi may

3435
03:02:59,480 --> 03:03:01,760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: perception is the key to everything.

3436
03:03:01,920 --> 03:03:03,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Diba? Kanya ng politics perception yan eh.

3437
03:03:04,300 --> 03:03:05,720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Gusto lang nila makita na

3438
03:03:05,720 --> 03:03:08,120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: gumagalaw kayo,

3439
03:03:08,620 --> 03:03:09,760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nagagalit kayo,

3440
03:03:09,920 --> 03:03:12,240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: at on the ground, may effect. Kasi natatakot po

3441
03:03:12,240 --> 03:03:14,280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: itong mga predatory, predators

3442
03:03:14,280 --> 03:03:16,180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa pricing nito mga

3443
03:03:16,180 --> 03:03:17,760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga produkto na ito.

3444
03:03:18,260 --> 03:03:20,200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: For power to you, Sec, we know

3445
03:03:20,200 --> 03:03:21,940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: it's a difficult job that you face.

3446
03:03:22,300 --> 03:03:23,500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I've told this to Senator,

3447
03:03:23,500 --> 03:03:25,620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: my chairman, Senator Kiko,

3448
03:03:25,840 --> 03:03:27,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: that being a DA secretary is one of the

3449
03:03:27,740 --> 03:03:29,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: most difficult jobs. Everybody

3450
03:03:29,580 --> 03:03:31,760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: who sat on your position, whether

3451
03:03:31,760 --> 03:03:34,160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: they are professional agriculturists,

3452
03:03:34,300 --> 03:03:35,580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: whether they were businessmen,

3453
03:03:35,740 --> 03:03:37,700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: whether they were diplomats, whoever they

3454
03:03:37,700 --> 03:03:39,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: were, talagang nahirapan talaga sila.

3455
03:03:39,700 --> 03:03:41,600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Because it's a balancing act. But

3456
03:03:41,600 --> 03:03:43,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: at the end of the day, it's the

3457
03:03:43,740 --> 03:03:46,040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: prices of consumer goods

3458
03:03:46,040 --> 03:03:47,800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and at the same time, benefits

3459
03:03:47,800 --> 03:03:50,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: of the farmers that are important

3460
03:03:50,000 --> 03:03:51,540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: here. So, Sec,

3461
03:03:51,540 --> 03:03:52,900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: more power to you.

3462
03:03:53,300 --> 03:03:54,480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Huwag ka matakot.

3463
03:03:55,820 --> 03:03:57,720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ilabas mo yung galit mo.

3464
03:03:57,740 --> 03:03:58,440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sa mga

3465
03:03:58,440 --> 03:04:01,140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: itong mga

3466
03:04:01,140 --> 03:04:04,780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: predator pricing,

3467
03:04:05,020 --> 03:04:05,960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pati yung mga

3468
03:04:05,960 --> 03:04:07,260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: smugglers,

3469
03:04:07,800 --> 03:04:09,520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: tirahin mo. Huwag ka matakot.

3470
03:04:11,120 --> 03:04:12,400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Tama-tama, pumayat ka naman.

3471
03:04:12,500 --> 03:04:13,740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: You look better in TV now,

3472
03:04:14,100 --> 03:04:14,440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Secretary.

3473
03:04:16,000 --> 03:04:17,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Salamat po, Chairman. Thank you.

3474
03:04:17,480 --> 03:04:20,000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you to the DA family. We're here to support.

3475
03:04:20,300 --> 03:04:21,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, salamat po

3476
03:04:21,580 --> 03:04:23,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kay Senator Zubiri at lalabas na

3477
03:04:23,820 --> 03:04:25,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung tapang

3478
03:04:25,740 --> 03:04:27,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: natin dahil nalaalam ko ngang

3479
03:04:27,740 --> 03:04:28,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa likod mo ako. Thank you.

3480
03:04:29,820 --> 03:04:31,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, well, I will

3481
03:04:31,600 --> 03:04:33,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: likewise share the

3482
03:04:33,760 --> 03:04:35,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sentiment of Senator Zubiri

3483
03:04:35,980 --> 03:04:37,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that if you are going to

3484
03:04:37,900 --> 03:04:39,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: go all out against these

3485
03:04:39,360 --> 03:04:41,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: predators, you have our

3486
03:04:41,440 --> 03:04:44,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 100, 150

3487
03:04:44,020 --> 03:04:44,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: percent support.

3488
03:04:45,680 --> 03:04:47,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Alam naman ni Sec, kiko yan.

3489
03:04:48,120 --> 03:04:49,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, just a few, for my

3490
03:04:49,960 --> 03:04:51,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: first round, first,

3491
03:04:52,020 --> 03:04:53,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mr. Secretary,

3492
03:04:54,480 --> 03:04:57,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: could you comment on our,

3493
03:04:57,740 --> 03:04:59,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: our suggestion that we have

3494
03:04:59,560 --> 03:05:01,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a declaration of a state of calamity

3495
03:05:01,880 --> 03:05:04,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or an imminent disaster

3496
03:05:04,120 --> 03:05:05,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that we can address

3497
03:05:05,760 --> 03:05:06,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: this El Nino

3498
03:05:06,580 --> 03:05:09,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: situation

3499
03:05:09,580 --> 03:05:10,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that we're already

3500
03:05:10,420 --> 03:05:12,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at the moment.

3501
03:05:13,820 --> 03:05:15,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Talagang malaki na ang

3502
03:05:15,500 --> 03:05:16,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: daño sa limang

3503
03:05:16,460 --> 03:05:18,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: regions.

3504
03:05:19,260 --> 03:05:21,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Please let us know your thoughts because

3505
03:05:21,500 --> 03:05:23,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we'd like

3506
03:05:23,860 --> 03:05:25,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to get you all the necessary

3507
03:05:25,900 --> 03:05:27,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: support needed.

3508
03:05:27,740 --> 03:05:29,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: To be able to combat El Nino

3509
03:05:29,960 --> 03:05:31,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and stay ahead of the

3510
03:05:31,420 --> 03:05:34,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: game, for lack of a better

3511
03:05:34,060 --> 03:05:35,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: term, so that

3512
03:05:35,420 --> 03:05:37,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we can be proactive.

3513
03:05:37,800 --> 03:05:38,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I say that because

3514
03:05:38,920 --> 03:05:41,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: again,

3515
03:05:41,540 --> 03:05:43,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we need the resources,

3516
03:05:44,220 --> 03:05:45,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you need the

3517
03:05:45,340 --> 03:05:47,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: support, and you need

3518
03:05:47,660 --> 03:05:48,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the

3519
03:05:48,760 --> 03:05:51,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: laws and

3520
03:05:51,380 --> 03:05:53,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: executive orders to be able

3521
03:05:53,940 --> 03:05:55,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to do what you must.

3522
03:05:56,260 --> 03:05:57,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, sir. Just on the

3523
03:05:57,660 --> 03:05:58,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: El Nino muna.

3524
03:05:58,200 --> 03:05:59,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

3525
03:06:00,100 --> 03:06:01,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Definitely, well, hindi ko naisip

3526
03:06:01,840 --> 03:06:03,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung binanggit nyo, but

3527
03:06:03,580 --> 03:06:05,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that is a very good idea

3528
03:06:05,880 --> 03:06:07,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in my opinion,

3529
03:06:07,720 --> 03:06:09,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and I do agree that

3530
03:06:09,480 --> 03:06:11,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mas maganda na mag-declare tayo

3531
03:06:11,660 --> 03:06:13,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dahil from all

3532
03:06:13,860 --> 03:06:15,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: indications, it's super El Nino.

3533
03:06:16,080 --> 03:06:17,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pari dalubhasa, pag-asa,

3534
03:06:18,880 --> 03:06:19,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: you know,

3535
03:06:19,700 --> 03:06:21,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: everybody in the world is saying it, so I think

3536
03:06:21,740 --> 03:06:23,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we better act fast, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

3537
03:06:23,560 --> 03:06:25,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, my office can help

3538
03:06:25,360 --> 03:06:27,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in that regard. Let's sit

3539
03:06:27,660 --> 03:06:28,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: down with your Chief of Staff.

3540
03:06:29,800 --> 03:06:31,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The reason why I raised that was because

3541
03:06:31,600 --> 03:06:33,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I faced, as Food Security Secretary

3542
03:06:33,860 --> 03:06:35,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in 2014-2015,

3543
03:06:35,740 --> 03:06:37,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I faced a calamity.

3544
03:06:38,460 --> 03:06:39,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The

3545
03:06:39,020 --> 03:06:41,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kokolisap infestation in

3546
03:06:41,480 --> 03:06:43,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Region 4A in Calbar

3547
03:06:43,600 --> 03:06:45,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Zone, about 2 million trees.

3548
03:06:46,140 --> 03:06:47,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The rate within which it was spreading

3549
03:06:47,700 --> 03:06:49,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: was such that it would have hit

3550
03:06:49,440 --> 03:06:51,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Region 5

3551
03:06:51,180 --> 03:06:53,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: had we not made the necessary

3552
03:06:53,340 --> 03:06:55,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: interventions.

3553
03:06:55,760 --> 03:06:57,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And that state of

3554
03:06:57,140 --> 03:06:57,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: state of

3555
03:06:57,660 --> 03:06:59,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: emergency

3556
03:06:59,500 --> 03:07:01,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: calamity was declared by

3557
03:07:01,580 --> 03:07:03,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then President Aquino. We got about

3558
03:07:03,460 --> 03:07:05,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: half a million pesos worth of

3559
03:07:05,140 --> 03:07:07,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: additional support to be able

3560
03:07:07,540 --> 03:07:09,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to address that calamity.

3561
03:07:09,660 --> 03:07:11,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We established a war room.

3562
03:07:12,540 --> 03:07:13,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I know you now have a

3563
03:07:13,640 --> 03:07:15,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: war room in the department

3564
03:07:15,460 --> 03:07:17,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at the top floor

3565
03:07:17,740 --> 03:07:19,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the Philippine Coconut Authority.

3566
03:07:20,500 --> 03:07:21,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sat down with the

3567
03:07:21,560 --> 03:07:23,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: LGU, sat down with

3568
03:07:23,140 --> 03:07:25,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: those affected, and within six

3569
03:07:25,500 --> 03:07:27,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: months, from 57 hot spots, we

3570
03:07:27,500 --> 03:07:28,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: were able to bring it down to

3571
03:07:28,660 --> 03:07:31,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: one in

3572
03:07:31,060 --> 03:07:31,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Basilan.

3573
03:07:32,620 --> 03:07:35,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang biro ko nga kay President Aquino noon,

3574
03:07:35,940 --> 03:07:37,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pag dating ko doon sa

3575
03:07:37,460 --> 03:07:39,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Batangas, lahat ng mga

3576
03:07:39,720 --> 03:07:41,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: puno ng nyog naninilaw.

3577
03:07:42,640 --> 03:07:43,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya sabi ko, Mr. President,

3578
03:07:44,020 --> 03:07:45,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if we don't act fast,

3579
03:07:45,780 --> 03:07:47,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mauubos ang ating mga nyog.

3580
03:07:47,800 --> 03:07:49,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero, the good news,

3581
03:07:49,580 --> 03:07:50,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: marami na pong dilawan

3582
03:07:50,700 --> 03:07:51,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: doon sa

3583
03:07:51,880 --> 03:07:52,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

3584
03:07:52,300 --> 03:07:56,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: naninilaw kasi.

3585
03:07:57,500 --> 03:08:00,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But we addressed it

3586
03:08:00,060 --> 03:08:01,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in a six-month period.

3587
03:08:02,320 --> 03:08:03,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, that's why

3588
03:08:03,780 --> 03:08:05,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: let's work together

3589
03:08:05,900 --> 03:08:07,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and let's convince the President to declare

3590
03:08:07,900 --> 03:08:09,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that state of natural

3591
03:08:09,060 --> 03:08:10,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

3592
03:08:10,940 --> 03:08:13,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: state

3593
03:08:13,100 --> 03:08:16,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: natural calamity.

3594
03:08:16,620 --> 03:08:17,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Disaster.

3595
03:08:18,680 --> 03:08:18,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sige.

3596
03:08:19,960 --> 03:08:20,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now,

3597
03:08:20,600 --> 03:08:23,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if that is

3598
03:08:23,000 --> 03:08:23,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: declared

3599
03:08:23,460 --> 03:08:25,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: immediately,

3600
03:08:26,820 --> 03:08:27,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what, at least,

3601
03:08:27,500 --> 03:08:29,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: right now, ano na ang plano ninyo

3602
03:08:29,440 --> 03:08:32,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: thus far para ma-address itong

3603
03:08:32,660 --> 03:08:33,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: El Niño?

3604
03:08:34,340 --> 03:08:37,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just broad strokes lang para maintindihan natin

3605
03:08:37,120 --> 03:08:38,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ano ang kakailangan ng ponduhan?

3606
03:08:39,380 --> 03:08:40,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, well,

3607
03:08:40,780 --> 03:08:43,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we have created the El Niño task force

3608
03:08:43,260 --> 03:08:44,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: a few months ago, no?

3609
03:08:44,800 --> 03:08:45,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Coming from yung

3610
03:08:45,980 --> 03:08:49,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fewer prices task force, nag-migrate lang.

3611
03:08:49,240 --> 03:08:50,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We meet every week, actually.

3612
03:08:51,120 --> 03:08:52,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Every Monday morning.

3613
03:08:52,980 --> 03:08:55,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, we've developed

3614
03:08:55,140 --> 03:08:56,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nga yung aming, we've requested

3615
03:08:56,840 --> 03:08:57,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: funding.

3616
03:08:57,500 --> 03:08:59,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For all of the

3617
03:08:59,720 --> 03:09:00,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: things we need.

3618
03:09:01,460 --> 03:09:03,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And, mabibigay naman sa amin

3619
03:09:03,560 --> 03:09:04,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng ating

3620
03:09:04,180 --> 03:09:06,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng

3621
03:09:06,260 --> 03:09:09,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: malakanyang, ang aming requirement.

3622
03:09:09,540 --> 03:09:11,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Basically, it involves

3623
03:09:11,240 --> 03:09:12,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: water management,

3624
03:09:13,060 --> 03:09:15,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa crops, sa rice, corn, high-value crops,

3625
03:09:15,640 --> 03:09:16,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sugarcane, coconut,

3626
03:09:16,820 --> 03:09:19,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: interventions. Meron din livestock

3627
03:09:19,280 --> 03:09:21,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and poultry, pati fisheries.

3628
03:09:21,820 --> 03:09:23,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, we have to address yung

3629
03:09:23,220 --> 03:09:25,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: income losses also of affected farmers

3630
03:09:25,300 --> 03:09:27,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and fisher folks to be minimized.

3631
03:09:27,500 --> 03:09:29,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And, yung access of consumers

3632
03:09:29,660 --> 03:09:31,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to affordable food and commodities

3633
03:09:31,820 --> 03:09:33,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to be expanded, no?

3634
03:09:34,120 --> 03:09:36,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, as mentioned earlier,

3635
03:09:36,740 --> 03:09:38,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we will deploy more

3636
03:09:38,240 --> 03:09:39,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: water pumps,

3637
03:09:39,720 --> 03:09:41,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: solar-powered man.

3638
03:09:41,840 --> 03:09:43,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We've been deploying now

3639
03:09:43,440 --> 03:09:45,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in turning over solar-powered

3640
03:09:45,720 --> 03:09:47,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: cold storages, kaya para bago

3641
03:09:47,560 --> 03:09:49,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: uminit at kung kaya na i-harvest

3642
03:09:49,420 --> 03:09:51,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or earlier harvest, may itago

3643
03:09:51,540 --> 03:09:53,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and let it mature in those

3644
03:09:53,420 --> 03:09:54,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: facilities.

3645
03:09:54,060 --> 03:09:54,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So,

3646
03:09:54,180 --> 03:09:57,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: solar-powered irrigation,

3647
03:09:57,500 --> 03:09:59,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we're turning over tuloy-tuloy.

3648
03:10:00,560 --> 03:10:01,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nag-procure na kami ng

3649
03:10:01,580 --> 03:10:03,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: additional bio-fertilizers, no?

3650
03:10:04,100 --> 03:10:05,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: To the tune of 2.2

3651
03:10:05,740 --> 03:10:07,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: billion, and it will be distributed this

3652
03:10:07,540 --> 03:10:08,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: October and November,

3653
03:10:09,480 --> 03:10:10,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: among others.

3654
03:10:12,000 --> 03:10:13,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At, yun, marami-marami pa.

3655
03:10:14,120 --> 03:10:15,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Naka-prepare na yung budget

3656
03:10:15,520 --> 03:10:16,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for, may additional

3657
03:10:16,980 --> 03:10:19,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: presidential assistance to farmers and fisher

3658
03:10:19,460 --> 03:10:21,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: folks tayo. May fuel assistance tayo

3659
03:10:21,640 --> 03:10:23,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: i-deploy soon.

3660
03:10:23,800 --> 03:10:25,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At, meron din tayong agreement

3661
03:10:25,800 --> 03:10:26,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: with the toll,

3662
03:10:27,500 --> 03:10:31,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na magbigay ng

3663
03:10:31,940 --> 03:10:33,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: reduction in

3664
03:10:33,340 --> 03:10:35,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: a rebate system

3665
03:10:35,600 --> 03:10:38,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa mga agri-truck

3666
03:10:38,340 --> 03:10:40,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: users, at may mga cross-cutting

3667
03:10:40,700 --> 03:10:42,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: interventions din tayo, no?

3668
03:10:42,180 --> 03:10:43,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Across all

3669
03:10:43,460 --> 03:10:45,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: commodities,

3670
03:10:46,040 --> 03:10:47,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lalo na yung basic commodities.

3671
03:10:48,880 --> 03:10:49,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So,

3672
03:10:50,020 --> 03:10:52,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair. Go ahead, go ahead, please.

3673
03:10:53,240 --> 03:10:54,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: More or less,

3674
03:10:54,360 --> 03:10:55,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yun yun, Mr. Chair.

3675
03:10:55,160 --> 03:10:56,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, is there a,

3676
03:10:57,500 --> 03:10:58,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a conscious

3677
03:10:58,540 --> 03:11:01,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: calibrated

3678
03:11:01,560 --> 03:11:02,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: intentional

3679
03:11:02,620 --> 03:11:05,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: coordination, for example,

3680
03:11:06,340 --> 03:11:07,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: similar to what they're

3681
03:11:07,960 --> 03:11:09,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: doing with the SRA?

3682
03:11:09,900 --> 03:11:11,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because I remember when we had the

3683
03:11:11,260 --> 03:11:12,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uplift hearing,

3684
03:11:13,640 --> 03:11:15,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi natin,

3685
03:11:16,180 --> 03:11:17,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: AICS is precisely

3686
03:11:17,360 --> 03:11:19,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: necessary

3687
03:11:19,380 --> 03:11:21,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: when there is a calamity,

3688
03:11:22,000 --> 03:11:24,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: when there is a

3689
03:11:24,100 --> 03:11:25,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: crisis, di ba? So,

3690
03:11:25,800 --> 03:11:27,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the intervention, meaning,

3691
03:11:27,500 --> 03:11:29,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: between, or the coordination

3692
03:11:29,860 --> 03:11:31,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: between DA

3693
03:11:31,720 --> 03:11:33,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and DSWD,

3694
03:11:33,700 --> 03:11:35,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that the AICS is

3695
03:11:35,640 --> 03:11:37,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: directed, you know?

3696
03:11:38,160 --> 03:11:39,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sabi ko nga, if you're gonna direct

3697
03:11:39,680 --> 03:11:41,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the AICS, you might as well direct it

3698
03:11:41,540 --> 03:11:42,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to those who produce our food,

3699
03:11:43,360 --> 03:11:45,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that they can

3700
03:11:45,640 --> 03:11:47,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: continue producing our food,

3701
03:11:47,980 --> 03:11:49,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: which therefore

3702
03:11:49,420 --> 03:11:51,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: addresses the challenges of,

3703
03:11:51,400 --> 03:11:53,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know, food prices

3704
03:11:53,800 --> 03:11:55,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: going up. So, may ganun bang

3705
03:11:55,940 --> 03:11:56,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ko,

3706
03:11:57,500 --> 03:11:59,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: which is clear-cut

3707
03:11:59,520 --> 03:12:01,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: directive or policy,

3708
03:12:01,660 --> 03:12:03,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because that should, you know,

3709
03:12:03,520 --> 03:12:05,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: one expenditure, but you're

3710
03:12:05,760 --> 03:12:08,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: actually, two outcomes.

3711
03:12:08,980 --> 03:12:09,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

3712
03:12:10,080 --> 03:12:11,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, definitely,

3713
03:12:11,720 --> 03:12:13,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may ganun. Actually, it's the office of the

3714
03:12:13,800 --> 03:12:15,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Executive Secretary mismo nagpapatawag

3715
03:12:15,880 --> 03:12:17,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa amin almost every other week,

3716
03:12:18,500 --> 03:12:19,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: if not more sometimes,

3717
03:12:20,500 --> 03:12:21,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: with all the

3718
03:12:21,700 --> 03:12:23,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: major departments present,

3719
03:12:23,940 --> 03:12:26,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: including OCD, but the Air Force

3720
03:12:26,120 --> 03:12:26,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: actually, kasi,

3721
03:12:27,500 --> 03:12:29,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it involves also sa El Nino yung cloud seeding,

3722
03:12:30,020 --> 03:12:32,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: no? Then, yun nga,

3723
03:12:32,380 --> 03:12:34,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: meron pang kami mga shallow well tubes

3724
03:12:34,260 --> 03:12:35,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nga binabanggit,

3725
03:12:36,180 --> 03:12:37,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: then yung tupad ng DOLE,

3726
03:12:38,040 --> 03:12:39,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: meron din in-allocate sa amin,

3727
03:12:39,680 --> 03:12:41,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: meron din this DSWD

3728
03:12:41,860 --> 03:12:44,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: AICS available, and of course,

3729
03:12:44,340 --> 03:12:46,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung OCD fund,

3730
03:12:47,220 --> 03:12:47,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hopefully,

3731
03:12:47,840 --> 03:12:50,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung QRF nila

3732
03:12:50,080 --> 03:12:52,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang magagamit din namin for all of this,

3733
03:12:52,500 --> 03:12:54,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as well as the DAQRF fund.

3734
03:12:54,840 --> 03:12:55,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, yun yung mga

3735
03:12:55,700 --> 03:12:57,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: strategic na ginagamit,

3736
03:12:57,500 --> 03:12:59,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nagawa namin, no? But, besides that,

3737
03:12:59,700 --> 03:13:01,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: meron pa kami provisions of seeds,

3738
03:13:01,440 --> 03:13:03,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: planting materials, fertilizers,

3739
03:13:03,760 --> 03:13:06,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and animal dispersals,

3740
03:13:06,340 --> 03:13:08,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and provision of drugs

3741
03:13:08,140 --> 03:13:09,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and biologics.

3742
03:13:10,120 --> 03:13:11,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, fisheries naman, may fingerlings,

3743
03:13:11,920 --> 03:13:13,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: seaweed propagules, and fish cages

3744
03:13:13,520 --> 03:13:14,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: din na dinideploy.

3745
03:13:16,240 --> 03:13:17,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Crop insurance is also

3746
03:13:17,740 --> 03:13:19,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: being, binayos namin talaga yung

3747
03:13:19,940 --> 03:13:21,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na magkapag-register lahat

3748
03:13:21,400 --> 03:13:23,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa crop insurance, lalo na yung mga

3749
03:13:23,380 --> 03:13:25,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa tatamaan na areas, kasi nga,

3750
03:13:25,960 --> 03:13:27,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that's one way for the crop insurance.

3751
03:13:27,500 --> 03:13:29,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for them to recover. Plus, yung mga additional

3752
03:13:29,140 --> 03:13:31,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: financial assistance

3753
03:13:31,080 --> 03:13:33,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and agri-loans, no? Like,

3754
03:13:33,120 --> 03:13:34,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: agri-recover, mga ganon.

3755
03:13:35,260 --> 03:13:36,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, yun namin sa share.

3756
03:13:37,620 --> 03:13:38,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you.

3757
03:13:40,020 --> 03:13:40,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sige, we'll,

3758
03:13:41,780 --> 03:13:42,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: before I turn over

3759
03:13:42,900 --> 03:13:45,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the floor and provide

3760
03:13:45,300 --> 03:13:45,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: some

3761
03:13:45,620 --> 03:13:48,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: opportunity for our

3762
03:13:48,720 --> 03:13:51,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: partner,

3763
03:13:53,120 --> 03:13:53,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: NGO

3764
03:13:53,540 --> 03:13:55,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Civil Society partner

3765
03:13:55,320 --> 03:13:56,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: who will, in the budget,

3766
03:13:57,500 --> 03:13:59,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: process, just

3767
03:13:59,420 --> 03:14:01,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on the issue,

3768
03:14:01,780 --> 03:14:03,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: balikan ko na lang very quickly yung

3769
03:14:03,320 --> 03:14:04,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa pork, no?

3770
03:14:06,320 --> 03:14:07,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary, apart from

3771
03:14:07,780 --> 03:14:08,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: itong

3772
03:14:08,560 --> 03:14:11,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the need to revisit

3773
03:14:11,860 --> 03:14:13,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: itong taripa, yung

3774
03:14:13,600 --> 03:14:16,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pagbalik

3775
03:14:16,180 --> 03:14:17,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa dati ng taripa, itong

3776
03:14:17,920 --> 03:14:19,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: minimum access volume,

3777
03:14:20,080 --> 03:14:21,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tapos yung

3778
03:14:21,080 --> 03:14:23,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: importation ng karne,

3779
03:14:23,260 --> 03:14:25,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: are you

3780
03:14:25,280 --> 03:14:27,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: providing assistance

3781
03:14:27,500 --> 03:14:29,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know, actually, subsidies

3782
03:14:29,500 --> 03:14:31,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or support, you know? Kasi ito

3783
03:14:31,660 --> 03:14:32,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ata, isa rin concern, no?

3784
03:14:33,380 --> 03:14:35,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung, since farm bigot prices

3785
03:14:35,720 --> 03:14:37,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: have dropped

3786
03:14:37,060 --> 03:14:38,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa level ng palugi,

3787
03:14:39,800 --> 03:14:41,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is there some way

3788
03:14:41,160 --> 03:14:43,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that the intervention of the DA

3789
03:14:43,500 --> 03:14:45,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will provide some

3790
03:14:45,580 --> 03:14:47,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: relief dito? Lalo na,

3791
03:14:47,760 --> 03:14:49,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: my understanding is 70 to

3792
03:14:49,460 --> 03:14:50,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 80 percent of your

3793
03:14:50,880 --> 03:14:53,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farms, your

3794
03:14:53,000 --> 03:14:55,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pig farms, piggeries,

3795
03:14:55,380 --> 03:14:56,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: are small.

3796
03:14:57,500 --> 03:14:59,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, backyard farmers. So,

3797
03:14:59,760 --> 03:14:59,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: anong

3798
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:02,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Meron bang mga interventions or programs?

3799
03:15:02,760 --> 03:15:11,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: For example, sa usapin ng ASF, yung bakuna ba ay maaari bang ipamahagi?

3800
03:15:12,100 --> 03:15:19,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kailangan ba ng dagdag na suporta at budget dyan para mapabalis ang pag-ano ng ASF vaccine?

3801
03:15:20,480 --> 03:15:27,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung feeds, meron bang paraan para magbigay ng assistance dito sa mga backyard farms

3802
03:15:27,420 --> 03:15:40,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para magkaroon ng support, feed support from the DA so that 60 to 70 percent of your cost of production is feeds sa livestock, sa baboy?

3803
03:15:41,020 --> 03:15:50,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi ba dapat meron ganong budgetary support para masuportahan in the interim itong industriya ng magbababoy?

3804
03:15:51,920 --> 03:15:56,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, before I go to that to the pork industry again,

3805
03:15:56,920 --> 03:16:05,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: meron lang ako nakalimutan na meron kailangan for next year, hindi namin nailagay sa GAO, maliit ang budget for cloud seeding.

3806
03:16:05,740 --> 03:16:12,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So tingin namin we need additional P271 million for water management on cloud seeding.

3807
03:16:12,700 --> 03:16:15,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It remains unfunded for 2027, Mr. Chair.

3808
03:16:17,600 --> 03:16:22,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And if we declare that state of calamity, then maybe we can get those funds somewhere.

3809
03:16:22,840 --> 03:16:26,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I mean apart from maybe adding it to the 2020 budget.

3810
03:16:26,920 --> 03:16:28,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I mean apart from maybe adding it to the 2027 budget.

3811
03:16:29,080 --> 03:16:33,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So before we proceed, I invited Ken Abante.

3812
03:16:34,000 --> 03:16:43,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Actually, Ken of the People's Budget Coalition was actively participating with our budget process when Senator Wynn, Senate President Wynn was our chairman.

3813
03:16:43,880 --> 03:16:56,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And we'd like to continue this collaboration so that we can get their inputs in terms of being able to address challenges of,

3814
03:16:56,920 --> 03:17:00,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the budgetary process and the final budget approval.

3815
03:17:01,560 --> 03:17:06,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Ken. You have the floor, Mr. Abante of People's Budget Coalition.

3816
03:17:06,560 --> 03:17:14,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Your observations regarding the DA budget until the approval by the House. Go ahead.

3817
03:17:15,020 --> 03:17:19,080
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Senator Kiko, SP Wynn, Secretary Kiko and the DA family, magandang hapon po.

3818
03:17:19,080 --> 03:17:26,080
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Kami po ang People's Budget Coalition, isang grupo ng lampas apat na pong organisasyon na ipinaglalaban ang isang budget,

3819
03:17:26,920 --> 03:17:28,960
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: tao, makakalikasan at makatarungan.

3820
03:17:29,600 --> 03:17:34,740
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Una po, lubos po kaming nagpapasalamat sa inyo, Senator Kiko at SP Wynn at Committee on Agriculture,

3821
03:17:35,320 --> 03:17:38,420
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: sa pag-imbita sa aming civil society group sa budget hearing.

3822
03:17:39,020 --> 03:17:45,560
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: This is the first time in at least 10 years that civil society has been invited as resource persons in budget hearing.

3823
03:17:45,560 --> 03:17:53,400
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So thank you, Sen. Kiko, for maintaining the momentum of budget reforms started by SP Wynn Gatchalian and Finance Committee Chair JV Ejercito,

3824
03:17:53,540 --> 03:17:56,360
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: who met us budget watchdogs for three hours last week.

3825
03:17:56,360 --> 03:18:01,300
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And just last Monday, Sen. Riza Ontiveros, who also invited us to the DSWD hearing.

3826
03:18:02,040 --> 03:18:08,380
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: While the House has blocked and even regressed in transparency and genuine participation of civil society groups,

3827
03:18:08,860 --> 03:18:14,820
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: the Senate and even the executive agencies have proven to be more open to receiving civil society feedback.

3828
03:18:15,300 --> 03:18:24,800
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ini-emphasize po namin ito dahil ito ay isang critical na step to restoring the broken public trust in the budget process brought by the flood control scandal.

3829
03:18:24,800 --> 03:18:33,120
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Citizens like us who are directly affected by reforms have the right and responsibility to engage in every step of the budget process.

3830
03:18:33,120 --> 03:18:43,440
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Kaya po na-appreciate po namin ito dahil sa komiting ito, na-appreciate po namin yung pagka-specific ng plano ng DA at ating Senado sa El Niño,

3831
03:18:43,700 --> 03:18:48,920
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: which brings us, nag-uusap po kami dito ni Tim, who represents farmer and fisher folk organizations,

3832
03:18:49,120 --> 03:18:54,000
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: it brings us a lot of comfort and confidence that government will do something about their experiences.

3833
03:18:54,320 --> 03:18:54,620
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And we hope...

3834
03:18:54,800 --> 03:19:02,340
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: that this engagement becomes the norm in Congress and even include the scientific institutions who specialize in these reviews.

3835
03:19:02,720 --> 03:19:07,680
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So salamat po sa paikinig sa mga hinain ng Trillion Peso March at Baja sa Luneta Rallies.

3836
03:19:08,300 --> 03:19:14,720
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Meron po kaming tatlong obserbasyon at rekomendasyon na gusto pong ibahagi tungkol sa Department of Agriculture Budget.

3837
03:19:15,500 --> 03:19:21,900
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Una po, billion-billion po ang in-insert ng House of Representatives sa Department of Agriculture Infrastructure Budget.

3838
03:19:22,520 --> 03:19:24,680
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nananawagan po kami sa Senado at sa Ehekutibo

3839
03:19:24,800 --> 03:19:34,780
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: na tulungan po kaming i-review ang lampas 7,054 projects worth 190 billion pesos na in-insert ng House of Representatives.

3840
03:19:35,500 --> 03:19:45,960
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nire-request po namin ang DA at ang Senado sa pag-publish ng mga dokumentong ito for media and civil society to see the documents following these red flags.

3841
03:19:46,180 --> 03:19:54,780
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang warning po namin sa publiko, if we allow the House budget to pass as is, we might get another flood control scandal but in another age.

3842
03:19:54,800 --> 03:20:02,820
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ikalawa pong major finding namin sa citizen monitoring, we commend the Department of Agriculture for their Farm-to-Market Road Watch

3843
03:20:02,820 --> 03:20:08,100
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: and we could recommend po that we strengthen and explore opportunities with our Bisto Proyecto Network

3844
03:20:08,100 --> 03:20:18,300
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: which has already networks in 12 regions to extend the identification and monitoring of farm-to-market and irrigation projects with farmer and fisher folk groups.

3845
03:20:18,300 --> 03:20:24,600
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: The third major finding is we recommend investing and involving scientists and scientific institutions.

3846
03:20:24,800 --> 03:20:33,680
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: in the budget review process to even strengthen the additional requirements for El Niño and promoting the stability of agriculture prices.

3847
03:20:34,140 --> 03:20:40,980
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nire-recommenda po namin sa komite na i-include ang mga scientists, hydrologists, disaster resilience experts from Project NOAA,

3848
03:20:41,420 --> 03:20:45,540
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: agriculturists and ecologists from UPLB to review the DA as a whole.

3849
03:20:46,560 --> 03:20:49,980
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Gusto po namin isa-isahin yung tatlong rekomendasyon na ito.

3850
03:20:50,380 --> 03:20:53,980
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Una po, sa mga house insertions sa farm-to-market roads.

3851
03:20:54,800 --> 03:20:55,940
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: and irrigation projects.

3852
03:20:56,500 --> 03:21:01,620
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Naniniwala po kami, at nag-usap po kami ni Sec. Kiko kanina po before the hearing,

3853
03:21:02,080 --> 03:21:07,980
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: naniniwala po kami na kailangan naman talaga ng farm-to-market roads, irrigation projects at agricultural investments

3854
03:21:07,980 --> 03:21:13,020
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: para po sa El Niño, mga bagyo, at para po mapababa ang presyo ng ating mga bilihin.

3855
03:21:13,020 --> 03:21:19,860
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Pero po, kapag in-insert ng House of Representatives ang 7,000 projects worth 190 billion pesos,

3856
03:21:20,380 --> 03:21:24,340
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: kasama po sa mga in-insert ng house, ang 15 billion pesos,

3857
03:21:24,800 --> 03:21:30,560
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: sa farm-to-market and irrigation projects na walang publicly-posted project attachments.

3858
03:21:31,560 --> 03:21:32,960
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: I-specify po natin.

3859
03:21:33,440 --> 03:21:41,060
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang house po, nag-insert ng 355 na totally new projects worth nearly 6 billion pesos for farm-to-market roads

3860
03:21:41,060 --> 03:21:44,920
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: na totally wala sa National Expenditure Program at Proposal ng DA.

3861
03:21:45,380 --> 03:21:51,520
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ito po ay yung mga tigpa 5 million, 10 million, 15 million na mga kalsada.

3862
03:21:51,520 --> 03:21:54,300
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Hindi po tayo sigurado kung konektado ito talaga.

3863
03:21:54,800 --> 03:21:57,860
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: National Highway Network o konektado ito sa mga resort nila.

3864
03:21:58,760 --> 03:22:05,600
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: The house inserted 319 totally new irrigation projects worth 9.4 billion pesos.

3865
03:22:06,140 --> 03:22:12,580
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And the egregious thing about these house insertions is they do not have the same level of public disclosure

3866
03:22:12,580 --> 03:22:15,480
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: that was given by the Department of Public Works and Highways.

3867
03:22:15,920 --> 03:22:20,960
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nag-publish po sila ng mga geotagged photos, program of works, detailed unit price analysis,

3868
03:22:20,960 --> 03:22:24,200
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: certificate of implementability ng mga local government units,

3869
03:22:24,800 --> 03:22:28,340
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: feasibility studies at local development council approvals.

3870
03:22:28,740 --> 03:22:35,240
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Kaya po siguro bahagi po ito kung bakit nag-slow down ang farm-to-market road budget utilization

3871
03:22:35,240 --> 03:22:40,620
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: kasi po kailangan po yung lahat ng dokumentong ito ay present before even the budget is approved.

3872
03:22:42,040 --> 03:22:49,020
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Yung even more details, kailangan pong i-publish hindi lamang ang coordinates pero yung mga supporting documents.

3873
03:22:49,580 --> 03:22:53,480
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Halimbawa po, kailangan pong i-review ang mga coordinates ng proyekto.

3874
03:22:53,600 --> 03:22:54,780
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nung tinignan po namin,

3875
03:22:54,800 --> 03:22:56,620
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: meron po kaming mga angry nerds.

3876
03:22:56,720 --> 03:23:01,020
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ito po yung 5,500 volunteers, the best software developers in the world

3877
03:23:01,020 --> 03:23:04,080
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: who got politically active after the flood control scandal.

3878
03:23:04,480 --> 03:23:11,540
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We mapped every single project, every single of the 18,000 projects that are now in the House bill.

3879
03:23:12,120 --> 03:23:17,800
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May mga nakita po kaming 23 million pesos na farm-to-market road na dapat ay nasa Nueva Ecija

3880
03:23:17,800 --> 03:23:21,720
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: pero ang coordinates po ay nasa Karagatan na malapit sa Benham Rice.

3881
03:23:21,720 --> 03:23:24,780
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May isang 30 million pesos na farm-to-market road na dapat ay nasa Nueva Ecija.

3882
03:23:24,780 --> 03:23:29,100
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May isang 55 million pesos na farm-to-market road na dapat ay nasa Cebu pero nasa Celebesi, malapit sa Indonesia.

3883
03:23:29,940 --> 03:23:36,320
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May isang 55 million pesos na farm-to-market road na dapat nasa Quezon pero nasa Karagatan, malapit sa Brunei.

3884
03:23:37,300 --> 03:23:42,580
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Kailangan din po natin i-review ang cost assumptions sa iba-ibang infrastruktura sa farm-to-market at irrigation.

3885
03:23:43,340 --> 03:23:52,780
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Kanina po nasabi na 15,000 pesos per meter or 15 million pesos per kilometer ang market price ngayon dapat ng mga kalsada.

3886
03:23:52,780 --> 03:23:54,360
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May mga nakita po kami.

3887
03:23:54,780 --> 03:24:04,860
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May mga koordinates na published na 19 million pesos per meter dahil 2 meters lang po ang nasa koordinates or 6 million pesos per meter.

3888
03:24:05,700 --> 03:24:11,860
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Sa tingin po namin may mga mali sa mga koordinates na ito na napasa both in the NEP and the House version.

3889
03:24:12,460 --> 03:24:19,860
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: At ang nire-request po ng aming angry nerds ay yung mismong raw data, yung mga GeoJSON shape files para ma-verify po ang lahat ng ito.

3890
03:24:20,180 --> 03:24:24,460
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: In the middle of some of these project cost analysis that we did,

3891
03:24:24,780 --> 03:24:30,040
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: may mga nakita pa po kaming mga 33,000 pesos per meter at 20,000 pesos per meter.

3892
03:24:30,160 --> 03:24:35,880
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Gustong sabihin po, if we take the budget as is, may mga likely overpriced projects pa rin po sa DA.

3893
03:24:36,900 --> 03:24:39,660
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ikalawa naman po, tinignan namin ang irrigation projects.

3894
03:24:40,060 --> 03:24:48,080
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Meron po ba kaming nakita na mga solar panels at kung ano man ang mga naging assumption sa mga solar pump irrigation projects.

3895
03:24:48,820 --> 03:24:53,040
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Concerned po kami sa costs ng solar pump irrigation systems with AI capability.

3896
03:24:53,660 --> 03:24:54,220
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Tama po ba?

3897
03:24:54,220 --> 03:24:59,680
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Na bilog-bilog na 50 million, 100 million, o 200 million ang mga budget para rito.

3898
03:25:00,260 --> 03:25:03,700
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: There is a risk that these projects may be overpriced so these must be reviewed.

3899
03:25:04,720 --> 03:25:09,160
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Tinignan po namin kung magkano dapat ang 600 to 700 watt solar panel.

3900
03:25:09,740 --> 03:25:13,160
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Dapat po ito ay under market prices just 7,000 pesos.

3901
03:25:13,760 --> 03:25:17,460
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: But some bidding and detailed unit price analysis documents are team reviewed.

3902
03:25:18,480 --> 03:25:22,920
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nakita po na yung solar panel costs na ito, actual bidding documents coming from the NIA,

3903
03:25:22,920 --> 03:25:25,920
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: cost around 30,000 to 40,000 pesos.

3904
03:25:26,420 --> 03:25:35,800
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So we want to ask whether these are still the same cost assumptions being used for the irrigation projects under this budget.

3905
03:25:36,760 --> 03:25:39,600
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Meron din pong mga AI monitoring section ang mga proyektong ito.

3906
03:25:40,060 --> 03:25:44,240
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Dapat po ba talaga ay merong tigo 1 million pesos per lot na AI monitoring?

3907
03:25:44,800 --> 03:25:46,580
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Hindi po ba dapat mas centralized na ito?

3908
03:25:47,180 --> 03:25:52,740
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Again, we are not saying that these are conclusive of corruption because we need more documents to make a determination.

3909
03:25:53,340 --> 03:26:01,840
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang sinasabi lamang po namin, kailangan po ng determination at kailangan ng dokumento para po magkaroon tayo ng mas maayos na review.

3910
03:26:02,420 --> 03:26:04,580
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Pinublish po namin ang findings na ito.

3911
03:26:04,580 --> 03:26:13,200
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We have a listing of all 18,000 house projects in this link, bit.ly or bit.ly slash budget red flags.

3912
03:26:13,760 --> 03:26:20,200
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Iniimbitahan po namin ang media, civil society, at ang kongreso at akademya to work with us on these inspections.

3913
03:26:20,800 --> 03:26:22,800
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Kung ang eleksyon po ay may disiplina ng eleksyon.

3914
03:26:22,920 --> 03:26:26,540
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Sa budget naman po ay dapat may budget monitoring.

3915
03:26:27,280 --> 03:26:31,060
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So yun po yung first major finding namin sa NKICO and SPWIN.

3916
03:26:31,880 --> 03:26:37,700
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ikalawa po is an offer to support the great work of Secretary Kiko Chulaurel and the DA family.

3917
03:26:38,280 --> 03:26:41,200
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We commend the DA for launching the Farm to Markets Roadwatch.

3918
03:26:41,620 --> 03:26:52,660
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nakita po namin na sa DA may website sila na inupload ang 3,455 completed projects of 6,428 projects worth 110 billion pesos.

3919
03:26:52,660 --> 03:26:55,600
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Spanning nearly 2,700 kilometers.

3920
03:26:56,380 --> 03:27:04,060
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: However po, when we saw the public reports in your e-reports portal, only 24 reports have been submitted by citizen inspectors.

3921
03:27:04,560 --> 03:27:09,760
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang offer po for support namin, we think we can support the citizen monitoring of these farm to market roads.

3922
03:27:10,220 --> 03:27:16,140
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And perhaps we can work with the Bisto Proyecto group convened by Cardinal Ambo David and Dondon Parafina.

3923
03:27:16,140 --> 03:27:22,640
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Our more than 200 volunteers, mga nanays ng 4Ps, Rover Scouts, mga madre at pare,

3924
03:27:22,660 --> 03:27:30,500
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: at parish workers, have monitored 251 projects worth 14 billion pesos across 12 regions with the DPWH.

3925
03:27:31,020 --> 03:27:35,660
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May nahanap po kami na 92 na unsatisfactory na projects.

3926
03:27:36,100 --> 03:27:37,180
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Siyem na po ang narisolba.

3927
03:27:37,860 --> 03:27:43,140
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And inaayos po namin ngayon with DPWH yung feedback mechanism with citizen inspectors.

3928
03:27:43,480 --> 03:27:46,340
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We hope that we can do the same with your office, Secretary.

3929
03:27:47,060 --> 03:27:48,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Third and final.

3930
03:27:48,000 --> 03:27:52,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before you proceed, just to place on record, let it be on record.

3931
03:27:52,660 --> 03:28:05,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That when Mr. Abante said, we hope you can help us directing the question or the appeal to the good Secretary,

3932
03:28:05,540 --> 03:28:08,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Secretary gave a thumbs up.

3933
03:28:08,820 --> 03:28:12,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's not in the transcript kasi so I had to put it on record.

3934
03:28:13,240 --> 03:28:15,680
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We are very happy with the thumbs up, Your Honor.

3935
03:28:17,060 --> 03:28:18,400
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Third and finally po,

3936
03:28:18,400 --> 03:28:22,300
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: we hope po we can involve the scientists in the review of the budget

3937
03:28:22,300 --> 03:28:28,000
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: to address El Niño, to double-check many of these coordinates that we think have errors in them,

3938
03:28:28,000 --> 03:28:30,880
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: and promote the stability of the agriculture prices.

3939
03:28:30,880 --> 03:28:36,140
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: At sa tingin po namin, it's part of the institutionalization of the Budget Monitoring Group,

3940
03:28:36,140 --> 03:28:42,440
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Budget Monitoring Network, is to be able to fund these third-party research institutions

3941
03:28:42,440 --> 03:28:48,240
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: so that they can really attend and do detailed analyses and studies of these projects.

3942
03:28:48,240 --> 03:28:51,600
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Muli po, nagpapasalamat po kami kasi ito po ay napakahalagang

3943
03:28:52,140 --> 03:28:56,040
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: oportunidad para po sa aming mga budget watchdogs na mapakinggan.

3944
03:28:57,120 --> 03:29:02,640
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: At si Tim po ay mayroon din po siyang mga inputs galing po sa mga farmers and fisher folks,

3945
03:29:03,100 --> 03:29:07,360
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: fisher folk groups, and may we ask po that Tim be recognized, Mr. Chairman.

3946
03:29:07,380 --> 03:29:08,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Tim.

3947
03:29:08,360 --> 03:29:08,760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Mr. Chairman.

3948
03:29:09,260 --> 03:29:09,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

3949
03:29:09,800 --> 03:29:16,660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Just on the topic ni Ken, kasi nabuksan niya yung farm-to-market roads,

3950
03:29:16,660 --> 03:29:20,540
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and I just want to share with the Secretary,

3951
03:29:20,540 --> 03:29:24,920
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: alam ko linilinis na ito ng department, pero mayroon pa rin kaming nakitang mga,

3952
03:29:25,480 --> 03:29:30,640
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: we call it red flags rin, in line with what Ken mentioned.

3953
03:29:30,640 --> 03:29:36,900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And Mr. Chairman, thank you rin for inviting the People's Budget Coalition.

3954
03:29:37,100 --> 03:29:38,840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: We've been working with them since last year.

3955
03:29:39,960 --> 03:29:46,740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: In fact, malaki po yung kanilang papel kung paano natin inayos yung 2026 budget.

3956
03:29:47,660 --> 03:29:50,900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: At dahil sa pagtutulungan natin,

3957
03:29:52,140 --> 03:29:57,220
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: yung recent Supreme Court ruling, hindi apektado yung 2026 budget.

3958
03:29:57,420 --> 03:30:00,020
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: It's only on the 2024 and 2025 budget.

3959
03:30:00,280 --> 03:30:12,620
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And that's also with the close coordination with our civil society organization, kay Sen. Kiko, nung hinimay niya mga farm-to-market roads at irrigation projects.

3960
03:30:13,280 --> 03:30:21,100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, Secretary, may nakita pa kami yung tawag namin mga red flags, mga 29 projects worth P660 million.

3961
03:30:21,100 --> 03:30:27,520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I know this is not big compared to the P16 billion total FMR.

3962
03:30:28,180 --> 03:30:41,860
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Pero dahil yung Kongreso nagpasok ng P6 billion, hindi namin alam kung yung P6 billion na yun ay naayon sa inyong master list or master plan.

3963
03:30:42,600 --> 03:30:46,500
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, but nakita namin may mga ganitong mga red flag.

3964
03:30:47,020 --> 03:30:48,340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Next slide, Elena.

3965
03:30:48,600 --> 03:30:50,960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: First yung the same name.

3966
03:30:51,100 --> 03:30:55,540
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, nakita namin doon sa mga FMR may mga pare-pareho yung pangalan.

3967
03:30:56,300 --> 03:30:56,940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Next.

3968
03:30:58,400 --> 03:31:02,800
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: The same name, but different project coordinates.

3969
03:31:03,040 --> 03:31:07,140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Pag tinignan natin yung pangalan, pare-pareho, pero hindi man pareho yung coordinates.

3970
03:31:07,580 --> 03:31:08,780
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And then next.

3971
03:31:10,340 --> 03:31:12,560
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Different name, but the same coordinates.

3972
03:31:13,020 --> 03:31:18,600
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ito mas delikado ito dahil iba yung pangalan, pero parehong coordinates.

3973
03:31:18,600 --> 03:31:20,100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yun yung sinabi kanina ni Ken.

3974
03:31:20,260 --> 03:31:20,460
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Baka.

3975
03:31:21,100 --> 03:31:22,060
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Nasa ibang lugar.

3976
03:31:22,360 --> 03:31:27,940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I think, baka may, to give the benefit of the doubt, baka mali lang i-input, no, nung numbers.

3977
03:31:28,080 --> 03:31:29,080
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kasi puro numbers yan.

3978
03:31:29,720 --> 03:31:38,360
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But when I received a briefing from the People's Budget Coalition, may mga coordinates na nasa, no, nasa Benham Rise.

3979
03:31:39,040 --> 03:31:42,360
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yung iba, nasa ibang, hindi nasa Pilipinas, no.

3980
03:31:43,460 --> 03:31:47,800
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And then next, ito rin, delikado rin ito.

3981
03:31:47,800 --> 03:31:50,800
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, the same project, the same coordinates, reappearing independently.

3982
03:31:51,100 --> 03:31:51,740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Different years.

3983
03:31:52,480 --> 03:31:52,620
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: No?

3984
03:31:52,780 --> 03:31:56,780
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And we only compared 2026 and 2027.

3985
03:31:57,000 --> 03:32:00,020
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Baka meron pa yan sa 2025, 2024.

3986
03:32:01,020 --> 03:32:03,520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, fina-flag lang namin in department.

3987
03:32:03,720 --> 03:32:07,720
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: We just want to let the department know may mga ganitong red flags.

3988
03:32:07,840 --> 03:32:12,880
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: We'll be more than happy to share with the department itong list para malinis ninyo yung inlistahan.

3989
03:32:12,880 --> 03:32:20,720
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And with the recent amendment or insertion ng house na 6 billion, we will also review this.

3990
03:32:21,100 --> 03:32:24,980
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: In cooperation with our civil society organization.

3991
03:32:25,200 --> 03:32:29,260
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But sa department, gawin nyo na rin yung review.

3992
03:32:30,200 --> 03:32:34,840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: At yun naman yung agreement natin, dapat pasok siya doon sa inyong master plan.

3993
03:32:35,560 --> 03:32:39,180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Para everything is coordinated with the department.

3994
03:32:39,600 --> 03:32:40,380
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

3995
03:32:41,160 --> 03:32:44,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Senate President, Mr. President.

3996
03:32:44,300 --> 03:32:45,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Tim. You have the floor.

3997
03:32:47,160 --> 03:32:48,180
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Magandang hapon po.

3998
03:32:48,380 --> 03:32:50,500
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Timothy Salamon from People's Budget Coalition.

3999
03:32:50,500 --> 03:32:53,280
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Representing Task Force Mapalad National Peasant Federation.

4000
03:32:54,040 --> 03:32:59,700
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: One million farmers across the nation that availed of the land rights through the Agrarian Reform Program.

4001
03:33:00,260 --> 03:33:01,020
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Maraming salamat po.

4002
03:33:01,620 --> 03:33:06,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Actually, pinapunta ko dito ng elders ko, si na Christian Munzod, Atty. Christian Munzod.

4003
03:33:06,600 --> 03:33:07,740
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Atty. Manding Harilia.

4004
03:33:08,060 --> 03:33:10,660
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: They wanted me to take an angry tone.

4005
03:33:11,200 --> 03:33:15,220
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pero upon hearing the discussion earlier, sabi ko kay Atty. Christian.

4006
03:33:15,820 --> 03:33:18,300
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Atty. Christian, parang binibigay nila yung gusto nila atin makuha.

4007
03:33:19,400 --> 03:33:20,320
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Natuwa po kami.

4008
03:33:20,500 --> 03:33:23,060
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Yung doon sa discussion regarding doon sa RSSI.

4009
03:33:24,260 --> 03:33:28,140
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We do note just some further details on this.

4010
03:33:28,140 --> 03:33:29,900
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Napakalaking bagay po kasi nito.

4011
03:33:34,660 --> 03:33:43,140
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Ano po eh, nabanggit kanina, napakamahal nung insecticides that are being purchased for RSSI.

4012
03:33:43,140 --> 03:33:45,440
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: I believe from 10,000 per hectare po iyon.

4013
03:33:46,040 --> 03:33:50,480
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And we do note na napakababa ng budget na binigay sa SRE.

4014
03:33:50,500 --> 03:33:51,940
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: To deal with that insect.

4015
03:33:52,940 --> 03:34:00,360
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And natutuwa po kami na the SRE has already mentioned that there are biocontrol mechanisms to deal with this.

4016
03:34:00,440 --> 03:34:06,360
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We already submit this to the DA and we are glad na nakinig po kayo sa recommendations sa civil society.

4017
03:34:06,860 --> 03:34:12,460
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: In fact, 10,000 per hectare po yung synthetic pesticide.

4018
03:34:12,520 --> 03:34:14,580
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Yung sinasuggest po namin na biocontrol.

4019
03:34:14,660 --> 03:34:16,460
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: 2,600 per hectare lang.

4020
03:34:16,820 --> 03:34:18,180
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Nabibili po mo siya Shopee.

4021
03:34:18,620 --> 03:34:20,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Tapos pag binili mo siya Shopee,

4022
03:34:20,160 --> 03:34:25,680
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: pwede mo siyang padamihin sa isang lab na kayang gawin ng mga agricultural students.

4023
03:34:26,500 --> 03:34:28,480
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So, we do support that budget.

4024
03:34:28,640 --> 03:34:31,860
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Sana pataasin po yung pagkontrol mismo dito sa peste na ito.

4025
03:34:31,940 --> 03:34:35,340
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: In fact, itong peste na RSSI, kapatid po siya ng cocolisap.

4026
03:34:36,100 --> 03:34:36,860
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Sen Pangilinan.

4027
03:34:37,540 --> 03:34:42,020
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pareho silang, they bore into the actual cane.

4028
03:34:42,520 --> 03:34:43,760
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Tapos sisip-sipin ngayon tamis.

4029
03:34:43,920 --> 03:34:45,260
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kaya siya masama siya sa sugar.

4030
03:34:46,280 --> 03:34:47,980
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So, I also wanted to,

4031
03:34:47,980 --> 03:34:50,100
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: kung ano po yung ginawa,

4032
03:34:50,160 --> 03:34:52,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: kung ano po yung ginawa nyo sa coconut,

4033
03:34:52,160 --> 03:34:54,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: please do it with sugar.

4034
03:34:54,160 --> 03:34:59,540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kasi ang dami pong nawawalan ng hanap buhay dahil dito siya sa cocolisap.

4035
03:34:59,540 --> 03:35:02,540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: I just wanted to follow up po.

4036
03:35:02,540 --> 03:35:04,540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Deliver niyo po yung budget na yung DA.

4037
03:35:04,540 --> 03:35:07,540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Hingin niyo po sa Senate yung susuportahan po ng civil society.

4038
03:35:07,540 --> 03:35:09,540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Yung hihingin ninyo.

4039
03:35:09,540 --> 03:35:11,540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kasi napakadami po talaga ng apektado.

4040
03:35:11,540 --> 03:35:13,540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pangalawa po,

4041
03:35:13,540 --> 03:35:17,540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: hindi lang po sana namin gusto gawin ito sa sugar.

4042
03:35:17,540 --> 03:35:19,540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Nabanggit na rin doon sa usapan with

4043
03:35:20,160 --> 03:35:22,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Sen Zubiri

4044
03:35:22,160 --> 03:35:26,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: na napakalaki nung issue nung access to fertilizer and pesticides na imported.

4045
03:35:26,160 --> 03:35:28,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And we do note that

4046
03:35:28,160 --> 03:35:30,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: bukod sa mahal,

4047
03:35:30,160 --> 03:35:32,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: nakakasira siya sa lupa.

4048
03:35:32,160 --> 03:35:34,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Tapos there are actually reports that

4049
03:35:34,160 --> 03:35:37,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: we are still using about seven fertilizers,

4050
03:35:37,160 --> 03:35:39,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: particularly ang banana,

4051
03:35:39,160 --> 03:35:43,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: na banned na sa European Union and the US.

4052
03:35:43,160 --> 03:35:45,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We need to take it.

4053
03:35:45,160 --> 03:35:49,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We will submit you the list of the actual names of the fertilizers.

4054
03:35:49,160 --> 03:35:51,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So this is the point is to say

4055
03:35:51,160 --> 03:35:55,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: that we wanted to veer away from importing fertilizers and pesticides.

4056
03:35:55,160 --> 03:35:57,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And to develop our own industry.

4057
03:35:57,160 --> 03:36:04,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: To develop more nature-based and farmer-friendly inputs to farming.

4058
03:36:04,160 --> 03:36:06,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: In essence kasi,

4059
03:36:06,160 --> 03:36:08,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: you take away the money from importing.

4060
03:36:08,160 --> 03:36:10,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pag ininvest mo siya sa baba,

4061
03:36:10,160 --> 03:36:13,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: magdadagdag ka ng value na pwede i-create nung farmer.

4062
03:36:13,160 --> 03:36:15,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Dagdag income sa kanya kasi yun e

4063
03:36:15,160 --> 03:36:17,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: pag siya yung gumawa ng mismo fertilizer.

4064
03:36:17,160 --> 03:36:21,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pag mayroon mo pa yung lupa kasi hindi mo sinira because of synthetic fertilizer.

4065
03:36:21,160 --> 03:36:23,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So we do encourage this.

4066
03:36:23,160 --> 03:36:24,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Sana po makita namin ito.

4067
03:36:24,160 --> 03:36:30,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Ang tagal na namin pinapush ito throughout all of the commodity chains.

4068
03:36:30,160 --> 03:36:32,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So yun po yung mga natutuwa kami.

4069
03:36:32,160 --> 03:36:36,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Some points that we remain concerned about.

4070
03:36:36,160 --> 03:36:38,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Mayroon po rin pong reports that

4071
03:36:38,160 --> 03:36:44,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: I think Inquire published that about 40% of our farming and fishing population

4072
03:36:44,160 --> 03:36:46,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: remains to be registered with the RSVSA.

4073
03:36:47,160 --> 03:36:49,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So we wanted to press na

4074
03:36:49,160 --> 03:36:53,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: sana may action plan to deal with this gap on registration.

4075
03:36:53,160 --> 03:36:55,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: From what we also understand,

4076
03:36:55,160 --> 03:36:58,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: most of the consequential services of the DA require

4077
03:36:58,160 --> 03:37:01,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: some form of registration.

4078
03:37:01,160 --> 03:37:05,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Magiging farmers association or fisher folk association.

4079
03:37:05,160 --> 03:37:07,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And yet the numbers do tell,

4080
03:37:07,160 --> 03:37:10,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: and this is from a report by the ATI themselves,

4081
03:37:10,160 --> 03:37:15,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: na 80% lang ng farmers natin ang may access to organizational registration.

4082
03:37:15,160 --> 03:37:16,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So in essence,

4083
03:37:16,160 --> 03:37:17,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: by that policy,

4084
03:37:17,160 --> 03:37:24,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: only 20% are reached by very big agricultural support services.

4085
03:37:24,160 --> 03:37:30,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And ito po, problema ko po yun kasi ang laki po ng budget ng DA.

4086
03:37:30,160 --> 03:37:34,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Ang ibig sabihin mo ba nun 20% lang talaga yung balak natin pagsisilbihan?

4087
03:37:34,160 --> 03:37:38,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We already suggested from the last budget,

4088
03:37:38,160 --> 03:37:40,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: nag-participate din po kasi kami doon.

4089
03:37:40,160 --> 03:37:44,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We issued questions to the House of Representatives sa DA last year.

4090
03:37:44,160 --> 03:37:48,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Nag-commit po ang ating DA to invest on community organizing

4091
03:37:48,160 --> 03:37:53,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: or in improving yung pag-fe-federate ng mga farmers

4092
03:37:53,160 --> 03:37:55,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: into actual agricultural cooperatives.

4093
03:37:55,160 --> 03:37:58,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Hindi ko po nakita where that promise went.

4094
03:37:58,160 --> 03:38:04,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pero I do recognize that this is already in the bill of the good senator na ano yung

4095
03:38:04,160 --> 03:38:07,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: agricultural extension and cooperatives bills.

4096
03:38:07,160 --> 03:38:11,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Bukod po dito, hindi naman po kailangan po yung batas,

4097
03:38:11,160 --> 03:38:13,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: but we also note na hindi din po gumagalaw yung,

4098
03:38:14,160 --> 03:38:18,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: civil society led na Philippine Action Plan for Family Farming.

4099
03:38:18,160 --> 03:38:20,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We already participated heavily on this.

4100
03:38:20,160 --> 03:38:22,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: It was inked on 2019.

4101
03:38:22,160 --> 03:38:27,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Ang pinaka thesis po, pinaka point po ng policy na ito,

4102
03:38:27,160 --> 03:38:32,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: is to ensure that agricultural services do not remain with yung SUKI system,

4103
03:38:32,160 --> 03:38:34,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: yung mga laging binibigyan,

4104
03:38:34,160 --> 03:38:38,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: but actually penetrate yung family farms, yung mga poor smallholder farmers.

4105
03:38:38,160 --> 03:38:42,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Na siya talagang yung majority of our farming population.

4106
03:38:42,160 --> 03:38:43,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So,

4107
03:38:43,160 --> 03:38:44,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: I invite everyone.

4108
03:38:44,160 --> 03:38:48,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Tingnan po natin yun, hindi po siya financed properly since 2019.

4109
03:38:48,160 --> 03:38:53,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Hopefully, yung ATI also, si Ma'am Ricotera, we are very familiar.

4110
03:38:53,160 --> 03:38:57,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Sana po pwede niyo po i-submit kina, Senator Kiko, kung ano po yung

4111
03:38:57,160 --> 03:38:59,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: kailangan ninyong budget para supportahan.

4112
03:38:59,160 --> 03:39:02,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kasi essentially, what we want with the PAP for FF,

4113
03:39:02,160 --> 03:39:04,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Action Plan on Family Farming,

4114
03:39:04,160 --> 03:39:08,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: is to strengthen the citizenship of farmers and fishers.

4115
03:39:08,160 --> 03:39:12,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: To take, to influence the actual delivery of services.

4116
03:39:12,160 --> 03:39:19,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kasi maganda po yung agri-extension na the government wants to go closer to the farmers.

4117
03:39:19,160 --> 03:39:24,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pero the intent of the PAP for FF is that the farmers themselves access it.

4118
03:39:24,160 --> 03:39:27,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kumbaga, this is the demand side na nag-e-empower ng farmers.

4119
03:39:27,160 --> 03:39:30,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So, hopefully po, at this point.

4120
03:39:30,160 --> 03:39:31,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Last point na lang po.

4121
03:39:31,160 --> 03:39:36,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We echo the point of Senator Ratul Tulfo that we want to pass the National Land Use Act.

4122
03:39:36,160 --> 03:39:37,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Erwin.

4123
03:39:37,160 --> 03:39:40,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Ah, Erwin po. Erwin, yeah.

4124
03:39:40,160 --> 03:39:41,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Na ano?

4125
03:39:41,160 --> 03:39:49,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Concerned po kami kasi it's been a decade na rin that we've been converting more than we've been irrigating.

4126
03:39:49,160 --> 03:39:51,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Consistent po yun.

4127
03:39:51,160 --> 03:39:58,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We've been irrigating at least 30% lang nung nako-convert every year in terms of coverage.

4128
03:39:58,160 --> 03:40:04,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Tapos, sobrang dami yung farmers groups that issue concerns of accessing information on irrigation.

4129
03:40:04,160 --> 03:40:09,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kasi ang policy po ng DA, which we appreciate, meron siyang public consultation.

4130
03:40:09,160 --> 03:40:14,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Merong public consultations every time there's reclassification ng local government units.

4131
03:40:14,160 --> 03:40:16,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Tsaka may conversion with the DAR.

4132
03:40:16,160 --> 03:40:20,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Ang problema, wala kasing access yung farmers dun sa irrigation data.

4133
03:40:20,160 --> 03:40:23,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And therefore, hindi sila makapag-participate meaningfully.

4134
03:40:23,160 --> 03:40:30,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Di ko alam, I give the benefit of the doubt, this might just be a technological issue or technical issue na hindi mabigay yung data.

4135
03:40:30,160 --> 03:40:37,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pero sana, sana hindi po ano, sana seryosohin na po ito.

4136
03:40:37,160 --> 03:40:42,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kasi mauubos na po yung sakahan natin at hindi pa rin napapasa yung Land Use Act.

4137
03:40:42,160 --> 03:40:49,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So in the meantime, baka pwede po ito gawin ng DA na everybody gets access to that information.

4138
03:40:49,160 --> 03:40:56,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So that we could meaningfully participate when any farmland is being applied for conversion.

4139
03:40:56,160 --> 03:40:58,160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So yun po, salamat.

4140
03:40:58,160 --> 03:41:01,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you Tim.

4141
03:41:01,160 --> 03:41:06,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just to inform you also, it's actually the measures that we have passed on.

4142
03:41:07,160 --> 03:41:11,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Third reading in the Senate are twin measures.

4143
03:41:11,160 --> 03:41:18,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The Extension Services and the Bureau of Agriculture and Fisheries Co-ops re-establishing.

4144
03:41:18,160 --> 03:41:36,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In other words, the organizing, the development of the agri-coops, we will now place under the Department of Agriculture rather than with the Cooperative Development Authority.

4145
03:41:36,160 --> 03:41:40,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The CDA will handle the regulation.

4146
03:41:40,160 --> 03:41:51,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But the strengthening and building and developing the agri-coops will be directly handled by the Department of Agriculture.

4147
03:41:51,160 --> 03:42:05,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Which was what it was before the devolving of the agri.

4148
03:42:06,160 --> 03:42:08,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: To the local governments.

4149
03:42:08,160 --> 03:42:19,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So there used to be a Bureau of Agriculture and Fisheries Extension Services and a Bureau of Agriculture and Fisheries Co-op.

4150
03:42:19,160 --> 03:42:28,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So ibabalik natin dahil nga kailangan ng directang suporta hanggang sa grassroots level ang ating mga magsasaka at mga anginista.

4151
03:42:28,160 --> 03:42:33,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So thank you for the inputs of Tim and Ken.

4152
03:42:33,160 --> 03:42:35,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, go ahead sir.

4153
03:42:36,160 --> 03:42:46,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, I would like to take the opportunity habang nandito yung People's Budget Coalition to bring up a topic about yung aming livestock budget.

4154
03:42:46,160 --> 03:42:58,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Para open at walang, ang request kasi ng DA is yung 20 billion doon sa IDCA funds na every year bibigay sa amin.

4155
03:42:58,160 --> 03:43:04,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Basis sa rules of the GAAA, hindi namin magagamit for next year eh.

4156
03:43:04,160 --> 03:43:05,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So sayang.

4157
03:43:06,160 --> 03:43:16,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So ang sinasabi namin kung pwedeng tanggalin yan sa aming budget next year at ilipat na lang sa 2028 when we are ready to implement that.

4158
03:43:16,160 --> 03:43:22,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And ibalik yung regular budget namin for 2027.

4159
03:43:22,160 --> 03:43:34,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasi with the way things are instructed doon sa GAAA for 2027, November na namin matatapos yung, November 2027 matatapos yung restructuring ng DA laws.

4160
03:43:34,160 --> 03:43:37,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So just to re-structuring ng DA livestock grupe.

4161
03:43:37,160 --> 03:43:44,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So I am just putting it on the table in front of yung ating mga ngos.

4162
03:43:44,160 --> 03:43:56,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Para, for full transparency, kasi baka makita ninyo na sa kali pumayag ang bite camp na baguhin namin, walang walang kalokohan doon.

4163
03:43:56,160 --> 03:44:02,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kailangan namin gawin kung hindi, patay ang livestock sector natin next year, yun lang sir.

4164
03:44:02,160 --> 03:44:24,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you. Thank you for that, Sec. I just wanted to clarify, going back to the budget, yung biosafety na 1 billion which we restored last year, may we know what's the status? Kasi my understanding is hindi pa ito na didisburst, hindi pa na-obligate.

4165
03:44:24,180 --> 03:44:36,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, sir. Yes, Mr. Chair. Well, I'm happy to report that we are ready for bidding already on the three sites. We are just waiting for the SARO. Na-request na namin, Mr. Chair.

4166
03:44:36,260 --> 03:44:38,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So you expect the SARO to be released anytime?

4167
03:44:39,220 --> 03:44:40,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

4168
03:44:40,140 --> 03:44:50,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you. So that's good news. Dito sa solar power irrigation for 2025, yung nabanggit ng COA na

4169
03:44:50,640 --> 03:45:00,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 1.64 billion of the solar power.

4170
03:45:00,020 --> 03:45:06,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: irrigation for 2025 had not been utilized or had not been obligated or disbursed?

4171
03:45:06,620 --> 03:45:11,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, na-re-issue lang sa amin yung SARO niyan a few months ago.

4172
03:45:11,880 --> 03:45:18,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Oh, just a few months ago. Okay. So, andyan na? Ready for...

4173
03:45:18,480 --> 03:45:21,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair. We are bidding pa lang now, Mr. Chair.

4174
03:45:21,780 --> 03:45:49,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you. And yung sa cold storage naman of 2025, 1.5 billion. Again, lumabas na ba yung SARO nito? Kasi as of COA findings, 1.4 percent pa lang ng 1.5 billion, and because you are also asking for another appropriation for 2027, so how is it now with this cold storage?

4175
03:45:51,720 --> 03:46:00,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: uh appropriation our research here uh it's being implemented as I mentioned actually

4176
03:46:00,780 --> 03:46:10,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: last week I was in uh this week I was in council we turned over four uh we finished already on pili

4177
03:46:10,800 --> 03:46:21,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: camsure uh mega cold storage that's 500 million uh earlier this year uh 60 units 70 units

4178
03:46:21,720 --> 03:46:27,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh okay just just to be to be able to understand it but not delay yung saro

4179
03:46:28,380 --> 03:46:40,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: um no meaning bucket naging 2025 a 1.4 percent lang yung cold storage uh utilization what happened

4180
03:46:40,860 --> 03:46:46,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: there it's more of the technical designs but no that's why it took long but now since the

4181
03:46:46,140 --> 03:46:50,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: top of tsunami lahat now it's on be uh on construction of all that so it's popping out

4182
03:46:51,720 --> 03:46:58,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: um okay and I would assume the same for the solar power irrigation uh there was solar power

4183
03:46:58,860 --> 03:47:06,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: irrigation uh Mr chair na flr huyan eh okay so the one technical uh just to explain more on the

4184
03:47:06,120 --> 03:47:15,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: modular cold storage yes uh actually like partly the immerging design of innovation

4185
03:47:15,660 --> 03:47:20,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: uh because I wanted the off-grid

4186
03:47:21,720 --> 03:47:23,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: would mean solar with battery

4187
03:47:23,560 --> 03:47:26,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and para makasigurado,

4188
03:47:26,320 --> 03:47:27,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: linagyan pa namin ng wind

4189
03:47:27,520 --> 03:47:29,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: turbine. Then yung structure

4190
03:47:29,900 --> 03:47:31,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to carry the solar

4191
03:47:31,860 --> 03:47:32,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: panels,

4192
03:47:33,920 --> 03:47:36,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may laking debate pa doon sa design

4193
03:47:36,000 --> 03:47:37,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: eh, kasi will we over

4194
03:47:37,820 --> 03:47:40,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: design it or not eh. So the decision

4195
03:47:40,000 --> 03:47:41,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: was, i-over

4196
03:47:41,700 --> 03:47:43,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: design na ng konti para

4197
03:47:43,180 --> 03:47:45,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: doon sa area mataming dagat

4198
03:47:45,660 --> 03:47:47,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and everything, may medyo

4199
03:47:47,260 --> 03:47:49,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bagyo resistance. Partly

4200
03:47:49,720 --> 03:47:51,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that was the main issue.

4201
03:47:51,180 --> 03:47:52,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

4202
03:47:53,740 --> 03:47:54,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of course,

4203
03:47:55,220 --> 03:47:57,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: every time I see the

4204
03:47:57,220 --> 03:47:59,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: inaugurations, you know, I'm

4205
03:47:59,260 --> 03:48:01,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: happy na may mga

4206
03:48:01,120 --> 03:48:03,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tiniturn over.

4207
03:48:03,800 --> 03:48:05,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: My concern lang is the

4208
03:48:06,100 --> 03:48:09,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: beneficiaries of these

4209
03:48:09,260 --> 03:48:11,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: projects, are they

4210
03:48:12,220 --> 03:48:13,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: capacitated

4211
03:48:13,440 --> 03:48:14,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to

4212
03:48:14,500 --> 03:48:17,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: absorb it and make sure

4213
03:48:17,300 --> 03:48:19,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that it is properly maintained and

4214
03:48:19,280 --> 03:48:21,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: utilized? Because

4215
03:48:21,040 --> 03:48:23,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that's actually, you know,

4216
03:48:23,080 --> 03:48:25,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a recurring concern. Nata-turn

4217
03:48:25,020 --> 03:48:26,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: over yung equipment, nata-turn over

4218
03:48:26,940 --> 03:48:29,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung facility, pero

4219
03:48:29,160 --> 03:48:31,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the long run, dahil

4220
03:48:31,040 --> 03:48:32,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung capacity ng organizations

4221
03:48:32,940 --> 03:48:35,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: are such, hindi

4222
03:48:35,260 --> 03:48:36,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hindi na may

4223
03:48:36,960 --> 03:48:38,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maintain. Mr. Chair,

4224
03:48:39,800 --> 03:48:41,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa training on the use,

4225
03:48:41,300 --> 03:48:42,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may training talagang kasama

4226
03:48:42,740 --> 03:48:44,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as a part of the package. Then

4227
03:48:44,920 --> 03:48:46,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as far as maintenance is concerned,

4228
03:48:46,980 --> 03:48:48,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: three years ho ang warranty niyan,

4229
03:48:48,880 --> 03:48:50,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: period. So, I think

4230
03:48:50,880 --> 03:48:51,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: three years is medyo

4231
03:48:51,900 --> 03:48:53,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maganda yun.

4232
03:48:54,500 --> 03:48:56,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then, it's simple to use. Actually,

4233
03:48:56,800 --> 03:48:58,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: when I inaugurated four,

4234
03:48:59,760 --> 03:49:00,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: just last,

4235
03:49:01,000 --> 03:49:02,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: just this week, actually, Monday.

4236
03:49:03,020 --> 03:49:03,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tama, Monday.

4237
03:49:05,220 --> 03:49:06,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kausap ko mismo yung farmer.

4238
03:49:07,260 --> 03:49:08,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sige ko, marunong ko ba mag-operate nito?

4239
03:49:08,960 --> 03:49:10,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: O, boss, naturuan ako. Sige ko, pakita mo

4240
03:49:10,780 --> 03:49:12,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nga sa akin. So, siya mismo. Although, kasi

4241
03:49:12,500 --> 03:49:14,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: push button lang siya. Tapos, of course,

4242
03:49:14,780 --> 03:49:16,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: there's a number there naman kung nasira

4243
03:49:16,920 --> 03:49:18,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at pwede lang tawagan.

4244
03:49:18,960 --> 03:49:20,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, after service lang ang kailangan.

4245
03:49:20,880 --> 03:49:22,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kailangan namin tutukan siguro. But,

4246
03:49:23,300 --> 03:49:24,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it's simple enough to operate.

4247
03:49:24,800 --> 03:49:26,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's robust. Matibay namin ginawa.

4248
03:49:28,160 --> 03:49:29,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And, I'm sure

4249
03:49:29,080 --> 03:49:30,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: makakatulong ho yun, Mr. Chair.

4250
03:49:31,160 --> 03:49:32,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And, maybe your

4251
03:49:32,620 --> 03:49:35,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your reach program should be

4252
03:49:35,000 --> 03:49:36,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba, should

4253
03:49:36,980 --> 03:49:39,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: also be dovetailing

4254
03:49:39,160 --> 03:49:41,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: efforts, the

4255
03:49:41,000 --> 03:49:42,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: turnover, and then you have

4256
03:49:42,900 --> 03:49:44,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know, your reach program wherein

4257
03:49:44,940 --> 03:49:46,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nariyan yung ating mga

4258
03:49:46,640 --> 03:49:49,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: agri-extension workers

4259
03:49:49,240 --> 03:49:49,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: providing,

4260
03:49:50,880 --> 03:49:51,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: monitoring,

4261
03:49:52,520 --> 03:49:54,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: assistance, and the like.

4262
03:49:55,060 --> 03:49:56,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tama ba yun? Yes, Mr. Chair.

4263
03:49:57,100 --> 03:49:59,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung inyong thrust sa ating reach

4264
03:49:59,000 --> 03:50:00,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: program with the extension workers

4265
03:50:00,760 --> 03:50:03,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: will solve 50% of the

4266
03:50:03,020 --> 03:50:04,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: problems of the Department of Agriculture

4267
03:50:04,860 --> 03:50:06,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and support lalo na yung hinihingi ni

4268
03:50:06,740 --> 03:50:07,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr.

4269
03:50:09,260 --> 03:50:10,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Salomon

4270
03:50:10,780 --> 03:50:13,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na mga issues na

4271
03:50:13,100 --> 03:50:14,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: they wanted to be resolved.

4272
03:50:14,840 --> 03:50:16,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Extension workers talaga ang key.

4273
03:50:16,720 --> 03:50:18,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Even yung sa RSVSA, without

4274
03:50:18,920 --> 03:50:20,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the extension workers, it is in

4275
03:50:20,880 --> 03:50:22,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: possible, I tell you, impossible na

4276
03:50:22,780 --> 03:50:24,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maayos namin yan. That is the only

4277
03:50:24,960 --> 03:50:26,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: way, extension workers, Mr. Chair.

4278
03:50:27,180 --> 03:50:28,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you. Maybe you can convince the

4279
03:50:28,880 --> 03:50:30,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: President na i-certify us

4280
03:50:30,820 --> 03:50:32,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: urgent para maipasa na ng house.

4281
03:50:33,460 --> 03:50:34,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos na tayo rito eh. It's

4282
03:50:34,860 --> 03:50:35,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the house that's

4283
03:50:35,680 --> 03:50:37,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: working on it.

4284
03:50:38,260 --> 03:50:40,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair. I will really

4285
03:50:40,720 --> 03:50:41,630
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: push for that, Mr. Chair.

4286
03:50:41,630 --> 03:50:42,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? Kasi

4287
03:50:42,140 --> 03:50:44,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we need it passed. In fact,

4288
03:50:44,860 --> 03:50:46,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I had hoped that we could pass it

4289
03:50:46,640 --> 03:50:48,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: before we finalize the budget

4290
03:50:48,580 --> 03:50:50,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that may mailalagay na tayo.

4291
03:50:50,720 --> 03:50:52,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Na tayong pondo. But in the meantime,

4292
03:50:53,320 --> 03:50:54,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we will probably just augment

4293
03:50:54,900 --> 03:50:56,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung REACH

4294
03:50:56,260 --> 03:50:58,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: program ng DA

4295
03:50:58,760 --> 03:51:00,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in anticipation

4296
03:51:00,320 --> 03:51:02,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the creation of

4297
03:51:02,020 --> 03:51:03,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Bureau.

4298
03:51:04,660 --> 03:51:06,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And we can probably have, we might

4299
03:51:06,740 --> 03:51:08,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: have to include a provision

4300
03:51:08,480 --> 03:51:10,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dun sa BICAM.

4301
03:51:10,640 --> 03:51:12,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba yung transition? Di ba?

4302
03:51:13,480 --> 03:51:14,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4303
03:51:16,020 --> 03:51:16,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

4304
03:51:16,700 --> 03:51:18,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: thank you. We

4305
03:51:18,300 --> 03:51:20,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: now go to...

4306
03:51:20,720 --> 03:51:23,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung fisheries, no?

4307
03:51:24,060 --> 03:51:24,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You know,

4308
03:51:25,200 --> 03:51:27,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Director, nung March,

4309
03:51:27,140 --> 03:51:28,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nag-hearing tayo,

4310
03:51:29,340 --> 03:51:31,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: may mga hinihingi

4311
03:51:31,140 --> 03:51:33,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: akong dokumento sa inyo, no?

4312
03:51:33,740 --> 03:51:35,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi nyo pa naibibigay.

4313
03:51:36,120 --> 03:51:37,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pati ako na,

4314
03:51:37,400 --> 03:51:38,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pati kami, medyo na

4315
03:51:38,920 --> 03:51:43,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hindi naman na-discaril, pero na-distract

4316
03:51:43,540 --> 03:51:44,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil nga nagkaroon ng

4317
03:51:44,860 --> 03:51:47,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senate

4318
03:51:47,640 --> 03:51:47,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senate

4319
03:51:47,720 --> 03:51:47,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senate

4320
03:51:47,760 --> 03:51:48,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senate

4321
03:51:50,720 --> 03:51:52,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Intramurals.

4322
03:51:53,740 --> 03:51:53,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

4323
03:51:55,900 --> 03:51:57,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero sabi ko nga,

4324
03:51:57,280 --> 03:51:59,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: after that happened, and then a few

4325
03:51:59,020 --> 03:52:00,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: months, a few weeks,

4326
03:52:01,200 --> 03:52:03,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi ko, okay, the Senate is back to work.

4327
03:52:03,120 --> 03:52:05,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But hindi nyo na-submit sa amin.

4328
03:52:05,680 --> 03:52:07,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You don't have to submit it now,

4329
03:52:07,300 --> 03:52:08,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but before plenary

4330
03:52:08,340 --> 03:52:09,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in November,

4331
03:52:11,580 --> 03:52:12,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hiningi ko sa inyo yung

4332
03:52:12,960 --> 03:52:15,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: binanggit ninyong

4333
03:52:15,000 --> 03:52:16,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mga kaso, di ba?

4334
03:52:17,640 --> 03:52:18,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Involving encroachment.

4335
03:52:19,480 --> 03:52:20,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: This was the...

4336
03:52:20,720 --> 03:52:22,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: issue of your monitoring

4337
03:52:22,800 --> 03:52:25,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung mga violations

4338
03:52:25,380 --> 03:52:27,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa municipal waters,

4339
03:52:27,800 --> 03:52:30,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: violations nitong mga commercial vessels,

4340
03:52:30,400 --> 03:52:30,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: et cetera.

4341
03:52:31,620 --> 03:52:34,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero sabi nyo, isasubmit ninyo, pero wala kayong

4342
03:52:34,140 --> 03:52:35,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sinubmit, no?

4343
03:52:36,740 --> 03:52:37,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: For example,

4344
03:52:38,560 --> 03:52:39,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I asked you, what were these

4345
03:52:39,880 --> 03:52:42,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the 7,639 cases,

4346
03:52:43,060 --> 03:52:43,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: how many involve

4347
03:52:43,820 --> 03:52:46,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: encroachment into municipal waters?

4348
03:52:46,600 --> 03:52:47,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

4349
03:52:49,040 --> 03:52:49,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sabi nyo,

4350
03:52:50,720 --> 03:52:53,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: all these cases

4351
03:52:53,820 --> 03:52:55,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: involve not just encroachment,

4352
03:52:56,000 --> 03:52:57,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but also other illegal activities.

4353
03:52:58,460 --> 03:52:59,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So I asked you for

4354
03:52:59,560 --> 03:53:00,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a breakdown.

4355
03:53:02,020 --> 03:53:03,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay? Tapos, how many

4356
03:53:03,940 --> 03:53:05,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: cases involve entry into the

4357
03:53:05,880 --> 03:53:07,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 15-kilometer municipal waters?

4358
03:53:10,800 --> 03:53:11,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You identified

4359
03:53:11,720 --> 03:53:14,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 551

4360
03:53:14,160 --> 03:53:16,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Section 86 violations,

4361
03:53:16,000 --> 03:53:17,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but you did not provide

4362
03:53:17,880 --> 03:53:20,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a complete breakdown of the 7,600.

4363
03:53:20,720 --> 03:53:22,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I want to know if you're

4364
03:53:22,100 --> 03:53:23,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: actually being able to police

4365
03:53:23,960 --> 03:53:26,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the waters. Because the Mercader

4366
03:53:26,320 --> 03:53:27,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: case does not apply

4367
03:53:27,700 --> 03:53:29,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to all other commercial

4368
03:53:29,600 --> 03:53:32,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: vessels. It only applies

4369
03:53:32,320 --> 03:53:33,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to Mercader, correct?

4370
03:53:33,180 --> 03:53:33,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Correct?

4371
03:53:34,900 --> 03:53:35,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Correct?

4372
03:53:37,740 --> 03:53:38,820
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yes, Mr. Chair.

4373
03:53:39,120 --> 03:53:41,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? Kasi kayo nagsabi nun eh.

4374
03:53:41,480 --> 03:53:43,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa Mercader lang ito. That's why I went

4375
03:53:43,500 --> 03:53:45,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to, eh paano nyo na

4376
03:53:45,240 --> 03:53:47,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mamonitor? Eh ngayon, nagka-problematize

4377
03:53:47,340 --> 03:53:48,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil sabi ng Supreme Court.

4378
03:53:49,680 --> 03:53:50,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah, nag-MR,

4379
03:53:50,720 --> 03:53:51,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ba ang ano? Ang

4380
03:53:51,820 --> 03:53:54,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ah, ang BIFAR

4381
03:53:54,620 --> 03:53:56,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dun sa ruling na

4382
03:53:56,200 --> 03:53:58,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na hindi pwedeng

4383
03:53:58,760 --> 03:54:00,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lagyan ng monitoring

4384
03:54:00,680 --> 03:54:02,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: equipment yung mga

4385
03:54:02,640 --> 03:54:04,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: commercial vessels?

4386
03:54:04,760 --> 03:54:06,740
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yes, Mr. Chair. Lag-MR po

4387
03:54:06,740 --> 03:54:08,660
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: ang BIFAR. So the case

4388
03:54:08,660 --> 03:54:10,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is still pending?

4389
03:54:11,080 --> 03:54:11,800
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yes, Mr. Chair.

4390
03:54:11,800 --> 03:54:12,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. Can you

4391
03:54:12,740 --> 03:54:14,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: give me copies of your

4392
03:54:14,600 --> 03:54:16,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: petition? Ah?

4393
03:54:16,740 --> 03:54:17,850
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ah, yes. We will provide.

4394
03:54:17,850 --> 03:54:18,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi paano nyo

4395
03:54:18,660 --> 03:54:19,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ngayon mamonitor?

4396
03:54:20,720 --> 03:54:22,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung municipal waters at yung

4397
03:54:22,680 --> 03:54:24,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: violations ng commercial fishing

4398
03:54:24,580 --> 03:54:26,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: vessels kung wala na yung inyong

4399
03:54:26,740 --> 03:54:28,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ah, equipment.

4400
03:54:29,820 --> 03:54:30,860
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ah, Mr. Chair.

4401
03:54:31,140 --> 03:54:32,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos wala namang kayong maraming

4402
03:54:32,680 --> 03:54:34,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bapon na pwedeng coast guard,

4403
03:54:35,280 --> 03:54:36,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: enough coast guard, ah,

4404
03:54:36,720 --> 03:54:38,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and bureau of fisheries

4405
03:54:38,400 --> 03:54:40,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: vessels to be able to monitor

4406
03:54:40,740 --> 03:54:42,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ah, our

4407
03:54:42,560 --> 03:54:43,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: municipal waters.

4408
03:54:44,840 --> 03:54:46,740
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ah, Mr. Chair, ah, traditionally

4409
03:54:46,740 --> 03:54:48,480
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: ah, BIFAR has been

4410
03:54:48,480 --> 03:54:50,380
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: continuously implementing

4411
03:54:50,380 --> 03:54:52,060
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: its business monitoring BIM

4412
03:54:52,060 --> 03:54:54,100
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: in line with international

4413
03:54:54,100 --> 03:54:56,360
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: practices in fisheries

4414
03:54:56,360 --> 03:54:57,700
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: monitoring and law enforcement.

4415
03:54:57,920 --> 03:54:59,400
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Tuloy-tuloy pa ang aming implementation.

4416
03:54:59,760 --> 03:55:02,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I know. Well, as best as you can

4417
03:55:02,460 --> 03:55:03,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: given your limited

4418
03:55:03,540 --> 03:55:05,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: equipment, personnel,

4419
03:55:06,000 --> 03:55:06,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba, and the

4420
03:55:06,860 --> 03:55:10,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and the massive

4421
03:55:10,040 --> 03:55:12,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: coastline of the country, di ba?

4422
03:55:13,120 --> 03:55:14,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So I understand. You're

4423
03:55:14,260 --> 03:55:16,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: doing what you can. That's why I want to see the

4424
03:55:16,220 --> 03:55:18,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: petition, di ba? So, please.

4425
03:55:19,020 --> 03:55:19,680
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yes, Mr. Chair.

4426
03:55:19,680 --> 03:55:20,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sinabi nyo,

4427
03:55:20,380 --> 03:55:22,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: isasubmit yung data bago

4428
03:55:22,400 --> 03:55:24,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mag-plenary, isubmit ninyo.

4429
03:55:24,560 --> 03:55:24,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah?

4430
03:55:26,020 --> 03:55:28,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos, how many notices of violations

4431
03:55:28,300 --> 03:55:29,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: were issued for encroachment?

4432
03:55:31,000 --> 03:55:32,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How many became complaints?

4433
03:55:33,740 --> 03:55:34,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? Kasi iba pa yung

4434
03:55:34,940 --> 03:55:37,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: notice, iba pa yung

4435
03:55:37,180 --> 03:55:38,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: complaint. Di ba?

4436
03:55:41,040 --> 03:55:42,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And how many of the

4437
03:55:42,620 --> 03:55:44,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 551 section 86

4438
03:55:44,660 --> 03:55:45,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: cases were resolved?

4439
03:55:47,480 --> 03:55:47,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

4440
03:55:48,980 --> 03:55:50,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And i-update na ninyo.

4441
03:55:50,380 --> 03:55:52,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At the latest, 2026,

4442
03:55:53,300 --> 03:55:54,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as of third quarter,

4443
03:55:55,280 --> 03:55:56,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if you can submit that, no?

4444
03:55:57,360 --> 03:55:58,340
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ah, yes, Mr. Chair.

4445
03:55:58,440 --> 03:55:59,240
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Tomorrow, bigay namin.

4446
03:55:59,600 --> 03:56:01,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. Hindi pa tapos yung ating hearing sa

4447
03:56:01,680 --> 03:56:04,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: municipal waters because we are preparing

4448
03:56:04,600 --> 03:56:06,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a bill to clarify

4449
03:56:06,920 --> 03:56:08,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: precisely a law.

4450
03:56:09,000 --> 03:56:11,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? To amend the fisheries code.

4451
03:56:12,060 --> 03:56:13,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah, di ba?

4452
03:56:14,120 --> 03:56:15,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kayo na rin ang

4453
03:56:15,080 --> 03:56:16,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: doon sa hearing na yun, di ba?

4454
03:56:17,540 --> 03:56:18,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang sinabi ng ating mga

4455
03:56:18,940 --> 03:56:19,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: stakeholders,

4456
03:56:20,380 --> 03:56:22,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung mga malalaking vessel na

4457
03:56:22,280 --> 03:56:24,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pumapasok sa 15 kilometer

4458
03:56:24,160 --> 03:56:26,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: municipal waters area,

4459
03:56:26,540 --> 03:56:28,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sinisira yung mga

4460
03:56:28,360 --> 03:56:30,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: coral reefs. Di ba?

4461
03:56:31,580 --> 03:56:32,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah, kaya

4462
03:56:32,460 --> 03:56:34,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung batas na yan, yung panukalang

4463
03:56:34,580 --> 03:56:36,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: batas, dapat ma-uproobahan natin

4464
03:56:36,220 --> 03:56:38,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para maprotektahan yung ating municipal

4465
03:56:38,240 --> 03:56:40,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: waters. We're also looking

4466
03:56:40,420 --> 03:56:42,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at the data. Tama ba?

4467
03:56:43,760 --> 03:56:44,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dahil mukhang

4468
03:56:44,260 --> 03:56:46,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagbago yung data, nag-improve

4469
03:56:46,100 --> 03:56:47,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung income ng mga

4470
03:56:47,600 --> 03:56:50,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: small fishers, pero in 2020,

4471
03:56:50,380 --> 03:56:51,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 2025, tumaas ang kita

4472
03:56:51,980 --> 03:56:53,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng commercial fishing,

4473
03:56:54,400 --> 03:56:56,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tumaas yung production, pero

4474
03:56:56,160 --> 03:56:58,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bumagsak yung

4475
03:56:58,160 --> 03:56:59,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: production ng

4476
03:56:59,000 --> 03:57:01,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: small fishers.

4477
03:57:02,120 --> 03:57:03,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I need the data

4478
03:57:03,960 --> 03:57:05,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: today. Ano na ang production

4479
03:57:05,920 --> 03:57:08,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: output ng small fishers

4480
03:57:08,140 --> 03:57:10,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: relative to the commercial

4481
03:57:10,240 --> 03:57:11,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: vessels?

4482
03:57:12,220 --> 03:57:13,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? Yung breakdown nun.

4483
03:57:15,040 --> 03:57:15,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Alam ko,

4484
03:57:16,320 --> 03:57:17,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: by quarter, tumaas, pero

4485
03:57:17,900 --> 03:57:19,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mas gusto ko makita yung

4486
03:57:19,640 --> 03:57:20,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: buong picture.

4487
03:57:20,380 --> 03:57:21,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4488
03:57:22,600 --> 03:57:22,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now,

4489
03:57:23,540 --> 03:57:26,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para sa...

4490
03:57:31,160 --> 03:57:38,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: For the high value crops,

4491
03:57:39,140 --> 03:57:40,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: my understanding is

4492
03:57:40,560 --> 03:57:42,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: based on the

4493
03:57:42,160 --> 03:57:44,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: COA findings,

4494
03:57:44,440 --> 03:57:46,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung

4495
03:57:46,600 --> 03:57:49,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: obligation rates,

4496
03:57:50,380 --> 03:57:51,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagbago na ba ito?

4497
03:57:52,560 --> 03:57:54,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And your disbursement rates?

4498
03:57:56,600 --> 03:57:57,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 59%,

4499
03:57:57,320 --> 03:57:59,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 59.3%

4500
03:57:59,080 --> 03:58:00,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: disbursement rate.

4501
03:58:02,760 --> 03:58:04,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So may balance

4502
03:58:04,120 --> 03:58:05,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: si pang 665 million?

4503
03:58:08,260 --> 03:58:09,660
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Thank you for that,

4504
03:58:10,600 --> 03:58:12,300
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Mr. Chair. Umakit na po tayo

4505
03:58:12,300 --> 03:58:13,700
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: sa 73%.

4506
03:58:13,700 --> 03:58:16,240
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: And then may commitment po tayo

4507
03:58:16,240 --> 03:58:18,500
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: to improve the obligation by October

4508
03:58:18,500 --> 03:58:19,660
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: to 80%.

4509
03:58:19,660 --> 03:58:20,260
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: To 80%.

4510
03:58:20,380 --> 03:58:22,420
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: And then by November to 90%,

4511
03:58:22,420 --> 03:58:24,360
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: and by December to 94%,

4512
03:58:24,360 --> 03:58:24,980
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Mr. Chair.

4513
03:58:25,200 --> 03:58:27,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, because if you will recall,

4514
03:58:27,520 --> 03:58:29,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the last budget cycle,

4515
03:58:30,160 --> 03:58:31,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we introduced

4516
03:58:31,120 --> 03:58:33,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 440 million additional

4517
03:58:33,780 --> 03:58:35,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for high value crops, di ba?

4518
03:58:35,800 --> 03:58:37,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Particularly for coffee and cacao.

4519
03:58:37,860 --> 03:58:39,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But my understanding is,

4520
03:58:40,060 --> 03:58:42,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kulang pa ang documentation ninyo

4521
03:58:42,220 --> 03:58:44,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para ma-release yung pondo

4522
03:58:44,140 --> 03:58:44,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng DBM.

4523
03:58:46,320 --> 03:58:47,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How is that going now?

4524
03:58:47,880 --> 03:58:49,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi hindi pa daw na-re-release.

4525
03:58:50,380 --> 03:58:52,300
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Thank you for that question, Mr. Chair.

4526
03:58:52,440 --> 03:58:54,320
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Actually, the biggest chunk

4527
03:58:54,320 --> 03:58:56,320
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: is the AEW incentives.

4528
03:58:56,800 --> 03:58:57,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4529
03:58:57,060 --> 03:58:59,920
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Nasa 200 million po yun.

4530
03:59:01,080 --> 03:59:03,020
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Currently, what we're doing is

4531
03:59:03,020 --> 03:59:05,340
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: we request, we provided

4532
03:59:05,340 --> 03:59:07,360
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: already the mechanism

4533
03:59:07,360 --> 03:59:08,600
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: kung paano nila

4534
03:59:08,600 --> 03:59:10,540
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: i-re-release yun

4535
03:59:10,540 --> 03:59:13,280
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: considering the AOM

4536
03:59:13,280 --> 03:59:15,300
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: and the, from COA.

4537
03:59:15,860 --> 03:59:17,020
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: And so with

4538
03:59:17,020 --> 03:59:18,940
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: that, Mr. Chair, we're confident

4539
03:59:18,940 --> 03:59:20,360
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: that that can be disbursed.

4540
03:59:20,380 --> 03:59:22,460
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: So that will trigger a higher

4541
03:59:22,460 --> 03:59:23,620
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: obligation rate

4542
03:59:23,620 --> 03:59:26,580
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: of the threshold level

4543
03:59:26,580 --> 03:59:27,460
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: to 80%.

4544
03:59:27,460 --> 03:59:30,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. So, can you update us there?

4545
03:59:30,760 --> 03:59:32,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi you're asking for an additional

4546
03:59:32,360 --> 03:59:32,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: magkano?

4547
03:59:36,240 --> 03:59:36,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah.

4548
03:59:37,620 --> 03:59:39,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung sa UB, di ba?

4549
03:59:39,880 --> 03:59:41,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 300 million ba?

4550
03:59:41,700 --> 03:59:42,660
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Yes, Mr. Chair.

4551
03:59:42,740 --> 03:59:45,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ako, I support that.

4552
03:59:45,980 --> 03:59:46,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero,

4553
03:59:47,100 --> 03:59:49,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: how do we make sure na hindi

4554
03:59:49,920 --> 03:59:51,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mabibitin yung

4555
03:59:51,680 --> 03:59:53,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: budget release because of

4556
03:59:53,420 --> 03:59:55,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lack of

4557
03:59:55,480 --> 03:59:57,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: proper documentation?

4558
03:59:57,820 --> 03:59:58,540
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Yes, Mr. Chair.

4559
03:59:58,800 --> 04:00:00,000
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: We will do...

4560
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:12,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If you can update us before plenary, just before plenary, kung may developments doon. Kasi documentation yan, so kinakailangan. The ball is on your court.

4561
04:00:12,600 --> 04:00:13,800
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Yes, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

4562
04:00:13,800 --> 04:00:37,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. Now, the same goes for yung sagipsakan na 500 million. Ano na ang status noon? Na FLR, tapos ang sinasabi ng DBM, kulang din ang documentation, tama?

4563
04:00:38,360 --> 04:00:43,460
DA Assistant Secretary Joycel R. Panlilio: There were additional documentary requirements, Mr. Chair, but we've already completed it.

4564
04:00:43,460 --> 04:00:48,700
DA Assistant Secretary Joycel R. Panlilio: And it's with our budget office already for the final review prior to release to the DBM.

4565
04:00:49,100 --> 04:00:53,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sige. So, kompleto na, ha? Maraming...

4566
04:00:54,260 --> 04:00:55,540
DA Assistant Secretary Joycel R. Panlilio: Yes, po, Mr. Chair.

4567
04:00:56,060 --> 04:01:02,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pinaglalabang ko yung budget nyo. Tapos hindi pa pala na-re-release yung sagipsakan.

4568
04:01:02,940 --> 04:01:12,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero, again, before plenary in November, if you can update us as regards the release.

4569
04:01:12,580 --> 04:01:14,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dito sa...

4570
04:01:15,160 --> 04:01:22,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Meron akong tanong sa live staff, no? Kasi yung rendering.

4571
04:01:23,680 --> 04:01:25,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Remember, I asked for a...

4572
04:01:26,600 --> 04:01:27,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Napirmahan na, no?

4573
04:01:27,580 --> 04:01:35,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Can you clarify that? Yung memorandum of agreement between the DA and the BOC on rendering?

4574
04:01:36,780 --> 04:01:40,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, meron na kaming...

4575
04:01:40,580 --> 04:01:42,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Well, basically, it was signed na.

4576
04:01:42,580 --> 04:01:45,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We have the copy here. We will submit to you today.

4577
04:01:46,220 --> 04:01:47,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Oh, yes. Thank you. Thank you.

4578
04:01:47,180 --> 04:01:48,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, okay na ito, Mr. Chair.

4579
04:01:48,140 --> 04:01:51,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. That's good. Kasi nga, may mga concerns noon.

4580
04:01:51,620 --> 04:01:55,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In fact, noong 20...

4581
04:01:55,980 --> 04:01:58,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kailan yung sa... Big or global?

4582
04:01:59,700 --> 04:01:59,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Or?

4583
04:02:00,880 --> 04:02:11,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah, yung 2024 incident of 100 million pesos worth of smuggled frozen meat na natiklo o...

4584
04:02:11,620 --> 04:02:12,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nagkaroon ng raid.

4585
04:02:13,000 --> 04:02:16,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nandun pa si Mr. Yusek Pineda ba? Arnel?

4586
04:02:17,880 --> 04:02:18,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Demesa.

4587
04:02:21,700 --> 04:02:27,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nangyari doon sa huling hearing namin, and that's the reason why we asked for that,

4588
04:02:27,940 --> 04:02:35,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: was because ang sinabi nung taga-NMIS na bigla-bigla silang pinatawag.

4589
04:02:36,200 --> 04:02:37,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tama, di ba? If I remember right.

4590
04:02:38,920 --> 04:02:40,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If I remember correctly.

4591
04:02:41,620 --> 04:02:45,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At mag-inspect doon mano nung rendering.

4592
04:02:46,420 --> 04:02:47,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? Pero ang nangyari,

4593
04:02:47,840 --> 04:03:01,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: eh, siya mismo umamin na, tawag dito, na hindi na-destroy, hindi na...

4594
04:03:01,980 --> 04:03:05,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It wasn't the... What's the term?

4595
04:03:07,280 --> 04:03:08,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sorry. Forgive my...

4596
04:03:08,840 --> 04:03:10,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At binenta.

4597
04:03:10,780 --> 04:03:10,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At binenta.

4598
04:03:10,840 --> 04:03:15,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa mga fishpond owners, para pakain sa mga hito.

4599
04:03:18,000 --> 04:03:18,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

4600
04:03:20,760 --> 04:03:28,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, I don't know. Was that ever investigated by NMIS or by BAE?

4601
04:03:31,440 --> 04:03:36,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But anyway, there's another one. The reason why I asked that is because itong huli.

4602
04:03:36,480 --> 04:03:37,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Eh, nasan yun?

4603
04:03:40,840 --> 04:03:42,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito lang.

4604
04:03:44,300 --> 04:03:45,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

4605
04:03:48,420 --> 04:03:49,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito ba yan?

4606
04:03:51,840 --> 04:03:57,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung 6.7 mis-declared chicken shipment busted at the port of Subic.

4607
04:03:58,800 --> 04:04:07,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos, ang sinabi ay binenta ng 120 pesos a kilo.

4608
04:04:07,320 --> 04:04:07,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4609
04:04:08,160 --> 04:04:10,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya natiklo ng BOE.

4610
04:04:10,840 --> 04:04:11,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4611
04:04:11,840 --> 04:04:12,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito si...

4612
04:04:12,840 --> 04:04:14,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Where is that?

4613
04:04:19,220 --> 04:04:20,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Where is it?

4614
04:04:21,420 --> 04:04:25,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 1,380 cartons of frozen chicken.

4615
04:04:26,180 --> 04:04:31,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero ang sinabi nga, ito was, imbis na na-render, eh, binibenta.

4616
04:04:33,360 --> 04:04:35,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Could you care to comment on this?

4617
04:04:36,740 --> 04:04:37,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sino ba?

4618
04:04:38,080 --> 04:04:38,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Si...

4619
04:04:38,580 --> 04:04:39,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. Go ahead.

4620
04:04:40,220 --> 04:04:40,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Seki.

4621
04:04:40,720 --> 04:04:40,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Seki.

4622
04:04:40,840 --> 04:04:46,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Basically, yan na nagiging palaging issue namin with the rendering facilities.

4623
04:04:47,080 --> 04:04:51,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In fact, I think nagko-coordinate naman si Yusek Ito sa office ninyo.

4624
04:04:52,040 --> 04:04:58,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We are actually the ones complaining na maraming rendering facilities na i-destroy nila.

4625
04:04:58,760 --> 04:05:01,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May pakitang taong in-destruction pero yung iba, binibenta.

4626
04:05:01,960 --> 04:05:13,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So that's why yung JMC na yan is very important na kailangan palagi ang DA at DAIE is present with other government agencies

4627
04:05:13,620 --> 04:05:17,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: para masiguro pag sinabing destruction, destruction talaga.

4628
04:05:18,180 --> 04:05:25,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's a matter of food safety. It's a matter of elimination of smuggling.

4629
04:05:25,720 --> 04:05:26,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

4630
04:05:30,860 --> 04:05:31,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Initially, no?

4631
04:05:31,960 --> 04:05:42,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. Yung the joint on condemnation shall not apply to, this is what page?

4632
04:05:43,280 --> 04:05:44,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kailangan i-clarify ito, no?

4633
04:05:44,820 --> 04:05:53,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Agriculture and fisheries products ceased for violation of the anti-agriculture economic sabotage act

4634
04:05:53,040 --> 04:05:57,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: where the aggregate value of the ceased agri and fisheries products is 10 million.

4635
04:05:58,780 --> 04:06:00,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bakit siya hindi mag-a-apply dito?

4636
04:06:01,960 --> 04:06:03,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Why was it excluded?

4637
04:06:09,040 --> 04:06:11,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In other words, kung mas malaki sa 10 million,

4638
04:06:31,300 --> 04:06:31,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Why was it excluded?

4639
04:06:31,820 --> 04:06:36,940
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Mr. Chair, I think that anything over 10 million falls under the RA-1-2022,

4640
04:06:37,940 --> 04:06:42,920
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: which is the council is the one that decides because that has to go through the CTA.

4641
04:06:43,680 --> 04:06:44,920
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Sila naggagawa ng kaso.

4642
04:06:47,540 --> 04:06:48,100
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Yes.

4643
04:06:48,840 --> 04:06:53,160
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: And anything above 10 million, sir, is only destruction.

4644
04:06:53,780 --> 04:06:56,860
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: They have separate guidelines under the RA-1-2022.

4645
04:06:56,860 --> 04:07:00,780
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: So anything below 10 million falls under the CMTA,

4646
04:07:00,980 --> 04:07:04,300
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: and it's the customs who decides the rendering or production.

4647
04:07:04,340 --> 04:07:06,820
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Under RA-1-2022.

4648
04:07:06,840 --> 04:07:07,620
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: No, no, yes, yes.

4649
04:07:07,700 --> 04:07:10,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But anything under 10 million is BOC.

4650
04:07:10,720 --> 04:07:11,160
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Yes, sir.

4651
04:07:11,360 --> 04:07:12,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then above is AES.

4652
04:07:13,160 --> 04:07:14,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is AAES.

4653
04:07:14,220 --> 04:07:16,880
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Falls under AAES already, 1-2022.

4654
04:07:18,880 --> 04:07:22,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, we will review this, no?

4655
04:07:22,340 --> 04:07:25,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then we'll see.

4656
04:07:26,860 --> 04:07:32,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya ibig sabihin, wala kayong kapangyarihan kung above 10 million.

4657
04:07:33,980 --> 04:07:37,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Wala na kayong say do sa rendering.

4658
04:07:38,140 --> 04:07:39,920
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: It's only destruction, sir.

4659
04:07:40,480 --> 04:07:41,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah, destruction lang nga.

4660
04:07:41,520 --> 04:07:41,840
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Yes.

4661
04:07:43,100 --> 04:07:47,100
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: The way it's been going on.

4662
04:07:47,100 --> 04:07:51,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, we'll review this, and then we'll let you know.

4663
04:07:51,840 --> 04:07:53,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero napirmahan na.

4664
04:07:53,100 --> 04:07:54,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

4665
04:07:54,940 --> 04:07:56,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, it's a start.

4666
04:07:56,240 --> 04:07:56,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Then we'll take it.

4667
04:07:56,860 --> 04:07:57,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: From there.

4668
04:07:57,240 --> 04:07:57,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

4669
04:07:58,460 --> 04:08:04,440
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: The act of rendering, sir, falls under the BOC, not the DA.

4670
04:08:04,880 --> 04:08:06,320
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: The DA is a witness.

4671
04:08:07,320 --> 04:08:13,200
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: That's why we had the fixing of this situation, sir, with the joint memorandum.

4672
04:08:13,900 --> 04:08:14,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, okay.

4673
04:08:16,000 --> 04:08:16,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, sige.

4674
04:08:17,100 --> 04:08:21,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We'll review it, but at least it's a step forward, no?

4675
04:08:26,860 --> 04:08:27,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4676
04:08:31,340 --> 04:08:32,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sorry.

4677
04:08:34,540 --> 04:08:35,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ano pa yung isa?

4678
04:08:41,300 --> 04:08:42,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4679
04:08:42,860 --> 04:08:55,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The question regarding the farm-to-market roads, balikan ko lang, no?

4680
04:08:56,860 --> 04:08:58,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4681
04:08:58,860 --> 04:09:05,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Doon sa 33 billion na-allocated, again, how much has been released, bid out?

4682
04:09:05,600 --> 04:09:09,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, 23 billion has been released just this October.

4683
04:09:09,900 --> 04:09:10,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just this October.

4684
04:09:11,240 --> 04:09:12,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 23 of the 33.

4685
04:09:12,780 --> 04:09:13,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah, yes.

4686
04:09:13,320 --> 04:09:13,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That was mentioned.

4687
04:09:15,600 --> 04:09:23,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So today, and it's a 15 million per kilometer, no?

4688
04:09:26,860 --> 04:09:30,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah, okay.

4689
04:09:30,540 --> 04:09:36,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just to clarify, during the hearing last year, no?

4690
04:09:36,080 --> 04:09:44,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You initially, the Secretary initially cited 64,000 kilometers needed and 36,000 kilometers validated.

4691
04:09:45,680 --> 04:09:53,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But later on, naging 70,000 kilometers completed with 60,000 kilometer backlog.

4692
04:09:54,380 --> 04:09:56,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Na-reconcile na ito through Geotag.

4693
04:09:56,760 --> 04:09:56,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4694
04:09:56,860 --> 04:10:06,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang latest figures namin ngayon, yung completed is the same, pero yung remaining is, instead of 60, 52 na lang, no?

4695
04:10:06,940 --> 04:10:07,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 52,000.

4696
04:10:07,840 --> 04:10:08,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 52,000.

4697
04:10:09,600 --> 04:10:10,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And?

4698
04:10:10,160 --> 04:10:16,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And continues pa yung Geotagging, but soon to be completed, Mr. Chair.

4699
04:10:17,400 --> 04:10:17,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4700
04:10:17,960 --> 04:10:18,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4701
04:10:20,100 --> 04:10:26,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, what is the, what is the cost of the backlog?

4702
04:10:26,860 --> 04:10:28,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: About a trillion?

4703
04:10:30,500 --> 04:10:31,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tama ba yun?

4704
04:10:35,080 --> 04:10:36,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 900 billion ba?

4705
04:10:36,800 --> 04:10:36,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4706
04:10:40,940 --> 04:10:42,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi,

4707
04:10:43,340 --> 04:10:56,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: our computation was for yung 2023 to 2028 National FMR Network.

4708
04:10:56,860 --> 04:11:10,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, plan, I, I recall we agreed that all Farm to Market Road projects must be part of the, uh, FMR Network Plan, di ba?

4709
04:11:11,100 --> 04:11:11,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Number one.

4710
04:11:12,100 --> 04:11:16,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi pwede yung pat, yung patse-patsya meron dito, meron doon, di ba?

4711
04:11:16,900 --> 04:11:25,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Um, Mr. Chair, 780 billion ang kulang to complete the Farm to Market Road at current prices, Mr. Chair.

4712
04:11:25,640 --> 04:11:26,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, that's 780.

4713
04:11:26,860 --> 04:11:32,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 885 billion o to cover for 52,000, no?

4714
04:11:33,080 --> 04:11:33,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, backlog.

4715
04:11:34,860 --> 04:11:42,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Um, so at the rate we're going, uh, at, uh, this year is how much?

4716
04:11:42,320 --> 04:11:43,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, 16.

4717
04:11:44,040 --> 04:11:45,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 16 billion this year.

4718
04:11:45,580 --> 04:11:49,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, mga 50 years bago.

4719
04:11:50,240 --> 04:11:51,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 49 years.

4720
04:11:51,300 --> 04:11:53,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 49 years to complete the backlog.

4721
04:11:55,100 --> 04:11:56,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, obviously, uh,

4722
04:11:56,860 --> 04:12:00,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh, it shouldn't be the case, no?

4723
04:12:00,160 --> 04:12:01,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But, uh, anyways, sige.

4724
04:12:01,920 --> 04:12:02,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh,

4725
04:12:05,040 --> 04:12:06,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what is your

4726
04:12:06,180 --> 04:12:09,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: strategic, uh,

4727
04:12:09,240 --> 04:12:09,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: plan?

4728
04:12:11,220 --> 04:12:13,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Uh, Mr. Chair, isang plano namin

4729
04:12:13,260 --> 04:12:14,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is PPP

4730
04:12:14,120 --> 04:12:16,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng FMR.

4731
04:12:16,680 --> 04:12:18,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Uh, we're planning to have a

4732
04:12:18,440 --> 04:12:21,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: PPP for 8 billion, meh?

4733
04:12:21,580 --> 04:12:22,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For, for

4734
04:12:22,660 --> 04:12:24,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 2027 ng

4735
04:12:24,720 --> 04:12:26,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: FMR on top

4736
04:12:26,740 --> 04:12:34,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: of the 16 billion uh so if the bpp idea works the plan works then maybe sa 2028

4737
04:12:38,420 --> 04:12:44,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yes um well yeah it's good you mentioned that because i if i understand correctly based on the

4738
04:12:45,060 --> 04:12:51,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: current updates on the farm to market road program uh of the how many

4739
04:12:51,620 --> 04:13:04,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh there are four modalities uh buffet dpwh ppp and lgu

4740
04:13:06,420 --> 04:13:10,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But right now the bulk is still with public works. Tama?

4741
04:13:11,760 --> 04:13:23,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, as of the moment, mga 65% is with public works. The rest would be DA na yan. DA naman, we farm it out also to LGU, Mr. Chair.

4742
04:13:24,040 --> 04:13:33,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. So DA has 162 projects, 5.35 billion. Public works has 1,204

4743
04:13:33,460 --> 04:13:42,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: projects 22.3 billion and then the lgus so far have 252 projects which is 5.36 billion

4744
04:13:42,020 --> 04:13:44,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But all these are still coordinated by the DA, right?

4745
04:13:44,240 --> 04:13:50,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang timon ho ay ang DA, Mr. Chair. Tapos yung sa public works figure, actually bumababa nang konti yan.

4746
04:13:51,620 --> 04:14:04,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mr chair okay and 23 billion has been released uh the remaining 9.6 billion are targeted for

4747
04:14:04,100 --> 04:14:11,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: submissions to dbm by november that is what your report is your update uh yes mr chair okay okay

4748
04:14:11,300 --> 04:14:19,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So what you are saying is eventually wala pa, wala pang PPP dito sa...

4749
04:14:19,100 --> 04:14:24,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Wala pa. I-correct ko lang yung sarili ko. Yung plano namin PPP is 80 billion, Mr. Chair.

4750
04:14:25,200 --> 04:14:34,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. And that 8 billion is of this, yung balance nung 33, yung balance after the 23, tama?

4751
04:14:34,960 --> 04:14:42,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It is?no, it is after. Yung 80 billion na PPP is on top of the 33 billion, Mr. Chair.

4752
04:14:42,000 --> 04:14:42,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4753
04:14:42,900 --> 04:14:44,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But that is for 2027, sir.

4754
04:14:44,820 --> 04:14:49,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 2027. Okay. Okay. Sige. So, para klaro yun. Well, again,

4755
04:14:51,620 --> 04:14:59,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi nga nila you don't need to reinvent the wheel diba a a example of the

4756
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:10,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of the backlog in government infrastructure was the school building program during the time of President Aquino.

4757
04:15:12,580 --> 04:15:18,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: By the end of his term, they were building 400 classrooms a week.

4758
04:15:19,760 --> 04:15:24,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the backlog was 66,000.

4759
04:15:24,760 --> 04:15:32,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, at one point, they were averaging 400 classrooms a week.

4760
04:15:32,220 --> 04:15:33,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the bulk of that was PPP.

4761
04:15:37,040 --> 04:15:45,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And PPP, because you do have the bigger construction firms, the AAA,

4762
04:15:45,760 --> 04:15:53,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and they had the muscle, they had the reach, they had the capacity,

4763
04:15:54,760 --> 04:16:03,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and so they were given public bidding, the right amount of projects,

4764
04:16:03,980 --> 04:16:07,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kesa sa iyong patsi-patsiba, di ba?

4765
04:16:07,480 --> 04:16:18,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Merong 250 million dito, 10 million dito, walang economies of scale.

4766
04:16:20,280 --> 04:16:23,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, your contractors will not participate,

4767
04:16:24,240 --> 04:16:24,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or,

4768
04:16:24,760 --> 04:16:25,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: luge.

4769
04:16:26,440 --> 04:16:31,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But if you do PPP with, you know, big ticket items,

4770
04:16:31,940 --> 04:16:33,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then they have economies of scale.

4771
04:16:34,980 --> 04:16:42,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In fact, sinama na nila yung mga, yung mga far, ano, ano dito?

4772
04:16:43,140 --> 04:16:43,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Last mile.

4773
04:16:44,800 --> 04:16:50,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: They were able to address even the last mile because they had economies of scale and they had volume.

4774
04:16:51,640 --> 04:16:54,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And only the private sector can really do,

4775
04:16:54,040 --> 04:16:57,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they can really do PPP in bulk, di ba?

4776
04:16:58,860 --> 04:16:59,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4777
04:16:59,840 --> 04:17:04,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we hope, we hope that moving forward, ganoon ang magiging direksyon natin.

4778
04:17:07,520 --> 04:17:08,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4779
04:17:10,340 --> 04:17:10,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

4780
04:17:12,860 --> 04:17:14,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: anong isa?

4781
04:17:15,480 --> 04:17:19,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung issue sa ating corn, kasi feeds, di ba?

4782
04:17:19,520 --> 04:17:21,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung, yung MAV.

4783
04:17:23,400 --> 04:17:23,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4784
04:17:24,040 --> 04:17:24,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Can you clarify this?

4785
04:17:25,040 --> 04:17:26,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because yung concern dito is,

4786
04:17:27,780 --> 04:17:32,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: although mas mataas yung ating corn stocks,

4787
04:17:32,400 --> 04:17:39,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: according to PSA, 47% increase compared to last year,

4788
04:17:41,640 --> 04:17:48,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is, why are we increasing, di ba, the import volume?

4789
04:17:50,700 --> 04:17:53,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, ang ini-increase po natin is yung MAV.

4790
04:17:53,420 --> 04:17:56,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Minimum access volume for lower tariff corn.

4791
04:17:56,420 --> 04:18:05,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It is an anti-inflationary tactic para nga yung, or move para yung feed cost naman ng livestock natin,

4792
04:18:05,160 --> 04:18:06,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hindi rin masyadong tumaas.

4793
04:18:07,020 --> 04:18:09,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, yun yung main purpose nun, Mr. Chair.

4794
04:18:10,200 --> 04:18:21,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How do we ensure, again, that our local farmers are not at the disadvantage as we bring in the necessary supply of corn?

4795
04:18:21,280 --> 04:18:23,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron tayong pwedeng sistema.

4796
04:18:23,420 --> 04:18:32,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pardon na, yung MAV, yung MAV, hindi natin i-issue during harvest season, no, ng ating mga corn farmers,

4797
04:18:32,740 --> 04:18:36,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and it only will be utilized after harvest season, Mr. Chair.

4798
04:18:36,620 --> 04:18:37,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Major harvest season.

4799
04:18:39,740 --> 04:18:45,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The DA has the capacity to be able to manage the releases and the entry?

4800
04:18:45,560 --> 04:18:47,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, through an IRR, Mr. Chair.

4801
04:18:47,640 --> 04:18:47,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4802
04:18:47,920 --> 04:18:48,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4803
04:18:50,140 --> 04:18:50,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah.

4804
04:18:53,420 --> 04:18:54,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4805
04:18:57,340 --> 04:19:03,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa PCC, Philippine Carabao Center,

4806
04:19:04,600 --> 04:19:11,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kumusta yung inyong obligation and disbursement nung binadjet natin sa gatas?

4807
04:19:12,720 --> 04:19:16,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung school feeding, milk feeding program sa schools?

4808
04:19:16,960 --> 04:19:18,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi tama ba ito?

4809
04:19:23,420 --> 04:19:25,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 35%.

4810
04:19:25,920 --> 04:19:39,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Your target is supposed to be 8 million milk packs, but you only delivered 2.8 million.

4811
04:19:41,140 --> 04:19:46,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then of the 93 school divisions, only 6 had completed delivery.

4812
04:19:47,100 --> 04:19:50,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 45 SDOs had not yet awarded a contract.

4813
04:19:53,420 --> 04:19:58,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah, Mr. Chair, we will ask Yusek for livestock to answer.

4814
04:19:58,920 --> 04:20:01,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, go ahead, Yusek Palabrica.

4815
04:20:01,900 --> 04:20:03,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah, doon na sa PCC, head na lang, sir.

4816
04:20:03,880 --> 04:20:04,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nandito pala.

4817
04:20:05,940 --> 04:20:06,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4818
04:20:07,340 --> 04:20:08,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ma'am, go ahead, ma'am.

4819
04:20:17,340 --> 04:20:21,340
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Honorable Chair, our obligation has increased.

4820
04:20:21,340 --> 04:20:22,020
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Increased?

4821
04:20:22,540 --> 04:20:23,340
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Already?

4822
04:20:23,340 --> 04:20:28,120
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Already by 80.04%.

4823
04:20:28,120 --> 04:20:31,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Again, again, sorry.

4824
04:20:33,420 --> 04:20:37,160
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Ah, it has increased already at 80%.

4825
04:20:37,160 --> 04:20:38,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 80%?

4826
04:20:38,380 --> 04:20:38,520
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Yes.

4827
04:20:39,000 --> 04:20:41,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: From, ah, kasi this is as of September?

4828
04:20:41,880 --> 04:20:42,200
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Opo.

4829
04:20:42,820 --> 04:20:43,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4830
04:20:44,120 --> 04:20:47,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bakit pagdaganong parating na yung budget hearing, biglang...

4831
04:20:47,980 --> 04:20:52,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah, Mr. Chair, nakakatulong ang budget hearing.

4832
04:20:54,220 --> 04:20:55,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Salamat sa tulong ninyo.

4833
04:20:55,780 --> 04:20:58,960
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Honorable Chair, una po, siyempre, anticipated po.

4834
04:20:59,300 --> 04:21:07,000
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: At the same time, ah, we all rely to the, ah, instructions also of the SDOs.

4835
04:21:07,480 --> 04:21:07,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

4836
04:21:08,020 --> 04:21:13,160
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Ah, sila din po kasi ang magsasabi kung kailan po mag-i-implement.

4837
04:21:14,280 --> 04:21:17,940
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: So, ah, ganun po yung status.

4838
04:21:18,720 --> 04:21:22,940
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: And, ah, looking forward po until, ah,

4839
04:21:23,340 --> 04:21:29,160
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: April po ang implementation ng, ng milk feeding program po natin this year.

4840
04:21:29,800 --> 04:21:33,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. Pero, binawasan yung inyong budget for...

4841
04:21:33,540 --> 04:21:33,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Opo.

4842
04:21:34,100 --> 04:21:40,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Oh, how will that affect the, yung, ah, industry, yung dairy?

4843
04:21:41,120 --> 04:21:52,560
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Ah, it will, it will, it is reduced at 449, ah, from 100, ah, from 1.12 billion.

4844
04:21:53,340 --> 04:21:58,140
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: So, kalahati, less than kalahati po ang binigay.

4845
04:21:58,380 --> 04:21:58,820
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: One-third.

4846
04:21:58,980 --> 04:22:08,040
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Ah, definitely, ah, the, the farming families or farming carabao raisers and cooperatives will be affected.

4847
04:22:08,040 --> 04:22:12,040
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Ah, mababawasan po ng...

4848
04:22:13,460 --> 04:22:16,240
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Okay, Secretary will answer.

4849
04:22:16,240 --> 04:22:16,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May I answer that, Mr. Chair?

4850
04:22:16,960 --> 04:22:18,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, please. Go ahead, sir.

4851
04:22:18,080 --> 04:22:23,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah, yan yung binabanggit kong problema dun sa IDECA na 20 billion.

4852
04:22:23,340 --> 04:22:28,720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya nabawasan yung mga major programs nila dahil nga meron na kami 20 billion, eh.

4853
04:22:29,140 --> 04:22:30,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then, hindi nga namin magagamit ito.

4854
04:22:30,940 --> 04:22:34,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, parang sa amin nga tanggalin ito at ibalik lang dati ito.

4855
04:22:34,200 --> 04:22:39,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then, ah, so that tuloy-tuloy lang ang programa ng livestock group, Mr. Chair.

4856
04:22:39,640 --> 04:22:45,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sorry, ah, hindi siya magagamit dahil, forgive my, you know, sa dami nung...

4857
04:22:46,060 --> 04:22:47,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi hindi pa siya na...

4858
04:22:48,080 --> 04:22:51,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa, hindi na. For the restructuring, ah, we have to hire more people.

4859
04:22:51,800 --> 04:22:53,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung organizational chart.

4860
04:22:53,000 --> 04:22:54,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Plantilla, kailangan maset.

4861
04:22:55,040 --> 04:22:58,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And on timelines namin, it has to go to, ah, civil service.

4862
04:22:58,860 --> 04:23:00,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It has to go through DBM.

4863
04:23:00,300 --> 04:23:02,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It has to go through other...

4864
04:23:02,100 --> 04:23:03,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May back and forth pa yan.

4865
04:23:03,480 --> 04:23:08,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, November next year pa namin magagamit yung 20 billion na IDECA.

4866
04:23:08,720 --> 04:23:08,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Okay.

4867
04:23:09,120 --> 04:23:15,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, we, that's the formal request was made that, ah, we forego of the 20 billion of the IDECA

4868
04:23:15,860 --> 04:23:21,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and revert back to our original NEP na wala yung IDECA.

4869
04:23:22,000 --> 04:23:22,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Understood. Understood.

4870
04:23:23,000 --> 04:23:30,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ibig sabihin, ah, kung dalawang buwan na lang sa January, sa 2027 magagamit, what's the point?

4871
04:23:31,080 --> 04:23:31,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Diba?

4872
04:23:32,660 --> 04:23:35,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. Okay. We will note that.

4873
04:23:42,540 --> 04:23:43,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4874
04:23:43,160 --> 04:23:43,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, sir.

4875
04:23:49,420 --> 04:23:51,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Teka, can I have a...

4876
04:23:53,000 --> 04:23:54,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ah, bathroom break.

4877
04:23:55,740 --> 04:24:05,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we'll have a five minute, ah, and for everyone, we will have a five minute, ah, liquidity, ah, break.

4878
04:40:46,200 --> 04:41:13,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: [unclear] Thank you very much.

4879
04:41:13,500 --> 04:41:26,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Report on 634,000 pesos worth of unsafe meat seized in Bulacan market. This is an article by ABS-CBN, October 16.

4880
04:41:27,140 --> 04:41:31,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So this was less than two weeks ago.

4881
04:41:31,420 --> 04:41:53,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Less than two weeks ago, government inspectors see some three tons of mishandled meat products at the Malolos Public Market, NMIS, DA, Dr. Jude Padasas, the enforcement head of NMIS, said the sweep was part of an ongoing Nation One campaign.

4882
04:41:53,740 --> 04:42:00,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ano na ang status nito? Head? Okay.

4883
04:42:00,520 --> 04:42:02,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, nandito yung head ng NMIS.

4884
04:42:02,820 --> 04:42:08,900
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Mr. Chair, I'm Dr. Hernando Lantoco, IC, Executive Director ng NMIS.

4885
04:42:09,080 --> 04:42:09,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, go ahead.

4886
04:42:09,960 --> 04:42:15,760
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Actually, isa ka sa mga top priority program ko sa ngayon ay palakasin yung enforcement.

4887
04:42:16,840 --> 04:42:22,300
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: At dahil nga sa amin yung mga reported na mga mishandled doon sa palengke.

4888
04:42:22,660 --> 04:42:23,300
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: So, nagkasapit.

4889
04:42:23,740 --> 04:42:30,600
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Pagka po tayo ng operation, it so happen na video parang meetip.

4890
04:42:31,300 --> 04:42:34,600
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Kaya kukunti lang yung nadali namin na prosent.

4891
04:42:34,720 --> 04:42:43,460
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Pero nakakumpis ka tayo ng mga almost two tons na mga galantina.

4892
04:42:44,520 --> 04:42:48,960
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Manok po yan na hindi po nagkaroon ng complete inspection.

4893
04:42:49,360 --> 04:42:53,180
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: So, pagka po hindi po siya nag-undergo ng complete inspection,

4894
04:42:53,740 --> 04:42:55,460
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: that is considered hot meat po.

4895
04:42:57,660 --> 04:43:00,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito ay sinampahan na ng reklamo, tama ba?

4896
04:43:01,020 --> 04:43:05,400
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Sa ngayon po ay ito po ay dahil unang huli lang po ito.

4897
04:43:05,400 --> 04:43:11,900
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Gusto rin natin maturuan na maging legal yung mga maliliit na nagtitinda.

4898
04:43:12,740 --> 04:43:16,380
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: So, sa ngayon po ay confiscation lang muna na ang ginawa po natin, Mr. Chair.

4899
04:43:17,820 --> 04:43:21,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. At anong rendering yan?

4900
04:43:21,580 --> 04:43:23,000
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Ito po ay dinadala natin.

4901
04:43:23,740 --> 04:43:26,420
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Mga recognized na rendering facilities.

4902
04:43:27,060 --> 04:43:28,760
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: At supervised po ito.

4903
04:43:29,540 --> 04:43:34,500
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: From the time na pumasok hanggang sa makomplete po yung pag-render po nito.

4904
04:43:34,760 --> 04:43:36,700
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Documented po lahat ito, Mr. Chair.

4905
04:43:40,700 --> 04:43:47,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, at yung balita naman doon sa binibenta ng manok.

4906
04:43:49,420 --> 04:43:51,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Binibenta nung mga nag-rerender.

4907
04:43:53,740 --> 04:43:58,660
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Actually po, meron pong ganyang bumabalita.

4908
04:43:58,660 --> 04:44:07,540
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Pero, ang sabi ko po ay, baka ito po yung nasabi kanina tungkol doon sa operation po doon sa Saklag.

4909
04:44:08,340 --> 04:44:12,040
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Pero wala po, hindi po nakasama rito ang NMIS operation.

4910
04:44:13,060 --> 04:44:18,760
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Ipinagbigay alam lang po sa amin yung operation kasi nalamang po nila na bago i-dispose,

4911
04:44:18,860 --> 04:44:21,140
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: kinakailangan may certification from NMIS.

4912
04:44:21,740 --> 04:44:22,900
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Pero noong nakaraalinggo,

4913
04:44:23,740 --> 04:44:30,880
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: meron pong dumating na apat na transport vehicle sa compound po ng NMIS

4914
04:44:30,880 --> 04:44:35,800
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: para i-certify po namin na yun ay unfit for human consumption.

4915
04:44:36,420 --> 04:44:38,920
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: And then, dila po ito sa, kung di po ko nagkakamali,

4916
04:44:38,920 --> 04:44:52,920
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: sa 13 rendering facilities at doon po na supervised po natin yung apat na deliver ban na puno ng toad na mga chicken.

4917
04:44:53,740 --> 04:44:58,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. Balikan ko lang yung sa rendering.

4918
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:03,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, napirmahan na yung Memorandum of Agreement.

4919
04:45:06,040 --> 04:45:12,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: First Border Patrol dapat for agri-products should be turned over to the DA.

4920
04:45:14,000 --> 04:45:18,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But right now, you don't have destruction rendering facilities.

4921
04:45:19,240 --> 04:45:26,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dapat part of the bio yung first border control yun at dapat kasama dun sa biosafety.

4922
04:45:26,820 --> 04:45:35,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But it looks like yung 1 billion, hindi pa sa rendering yun, ano?

4923
04:45:36,220 --> 04:45:43,360
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Hindi pa po sapat yung budget for the five rendering sites and biosafe sites.

4924
04:45:43,600 --> 04:45:46,340
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: So, the priority was biosafe site ho muna.

4925
04:45:47,340 --> 04:45:54,760
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: And then we can certify some rendering facilities in areas where we have major seaports.

4926
04:45:55,440 --> 04:45:56,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, okay.

4927
04:45:56,820 --> 04:46:05,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we will continue to monitor that until finally we will have your facilities necessary to do your job.

4928
04:46:07,420 --> 04:46:19,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The other concern that I raised in the onion smuggling, onion heating in Nueva Ecija was the,

4929
04:46:20,580 --> 04:46:22,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and this is my last point before I turn over.

4930
04:46:22,480 --> 04:46:25,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It's the...

4931
04:46:26,820 --> 04:46:34,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Memorandum of Agreement that I asked the DA to sign with the PSA.

4932
04:46:35,760 --> 04:46:45,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The reason being that in that hearing in Nueva Ecija on the onions, the over-importation of onions,

4933
04:46:45,400 --> 04:46:54,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it was established that the PSA data is different from the Bureau of Plant Data.

4934
04:46:55,680 --> 04:46:56,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Lumalabas sa BP.

4935
04:46:56,820 --> 04:47:10,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kulang ng 62,000 metric tons yung kanilang data in terms of production.

4936
04:47:12,100 --> 04:47:16,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mas marami ng 62,000 metric tons ang PSA.

4937
04:47:17,500 --> 04:47:25,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, dahil dun, kulang ang supply according to DA, kaya nag-import.

4938
04:47:25,320 --> 04:47:26,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Naglabas ng...

4939
04:47:26,820 --> 04:47:30,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang SPC, para makapasok itong onions.

4940
04:47:30,260 --> 04:47:39,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang problema, pumasok ng after or during harvest season na, for some reason.

4941
04:47:40,500 --> 04:47:48,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, to fix that problem, I asked, and that a memorandum of agreement be entered into, right?

4942
04:47:48,700 --> 04:47:49,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And this is it.

4943
04:47:50,540 --> 04:47:53,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang problema nyo rito, hindi pa pirmado si...

4944
04:47:53,220 --> 04:47:55,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yusek Bayate.

4945
04:47:55,540 --> 04:47:56,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ma'am, hindi pa kayo pumipirmado.

4946
04:47:56,820 --> 04:47:57,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi pa kayo pumipirma.

4947
04:47:58,740 --> 04:47:59,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Wala rito eh.

4948
04:48:01,320 --> 04:48:02,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Baka...

4949
04:48:02,080 --> 04:48:06,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At yung National Corn, nasaan si Program Director Wagas?

4950
04:48:07,460 --> 04:48:14,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sabi ko kasi sa inyo, yung budget ninyo ay nakasalalay dito sa pag-draft nito.

4951
04:48:15,820 --> 04:48:22,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Eh, yan yung beauty ng check and balance, di ba, na ginagawa natin.

4952
04:48:22,100 --> 04:48:26,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, kung maaaring pirmahan ninyo bago mag-plenary para kompleto na ito,

4953
04:48:26,820 --> 04:48:27,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: no?

4954
04:48:28,300 --> 04:48:31,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pati si Mr. Wagas, andito ba yung project director?

4955
04:48:32,780 --> 04:48:34,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, pirmahan na ninyo.

4956
04:48:35,440 --> 04:48:38,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nauna na magpumirma si Secretary Kiko eh.

4957
04:48:38,800 --> 04:48:38,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ha?

4958
04:48:39,400 --> 04:48:41,380
DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate: Hindi dumating sa office ko, ano eh.

4959
04:48:44,180 --> 04:48:45,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dapat may group chat kayo.

4960
04:48:48,820 --> 04:48:50,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But anyway, please, no?

4961
04:48:51,760 --> 04:48:52,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If...

4962
04:48:52,760 --> 04:48:54,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Again, before plenary, ha?

4963
04:48:56,820 --> 04:48:58,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then...

4964
04:48:58,700 --> 04:49:05,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We can now...

4965
04:49:05,800 --> 04:49:08,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, so, nasaan si Mr. Wagas?

4966
04:49:09,800 --> 04:49:10,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, hindi.

4967
04:49:11,300 --> 04:49:13,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pakisagot na lang, napipirmahan ninyo, tama?

4968
04:49:14,660 --> 04:49:16,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Para magkaroon ng...

4969
04:49:16,040 --> 04:49:23,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Para ang PSA data at ang DA data on our production, iisa.

4970
04:49:23,640 --> 04:49:26,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi yung mas marami yung...

4971
04:49:26,820 --> 04:49:36,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya, dahil kulang mag-import.

4972
04:49:36,800 --> 04:49:37,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

4973
04:49:39,800 --> 04:49:41,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, where is Mr. Wagas?

4974
04:49:41,600 --> 04:49:41,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

4975
04:49:43,860 --> 04:49:47,940
DA National Corn Program Director Abel F. Wagas: Your Honor, sir, pipirmahan po namin.

4976
04:49:48,160 --> 04:49:48,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you.

4977
04:49:49,020 --> 04:49:50,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun lang ang kailangan ko marinig sa inyo.

4978
04:49:51,460 --> 04:49:55,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: USEC, Bayate, sabi nyo na, pirmahan na ninyo.

4979
04:49:56,180 --> 04:49:56,800
DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate: It's set.

4980
04:49:56,800 --> 04:50:00,460
DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate: It only stayed in my office for one day.

4981
04:50:00,560 --> 04:50:01,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ba't hindi pa nakapirma rito?

4982
04:50:02,120 --> 04:50:02,800
DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate: I don't know.

4983
04:50:03,080 --> 04:50:05,980
DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate: Basta, I make it a point na ganyan po yung senator.

4984
04:50:06,300 --> 04:50:08,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, if you've signed it, thank you.

4985
04:50:08,900 --> 04:50:10,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito lang ang binigay ng PSA sa amin.

4986
04:50:11,760 --> 04:50:16,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But since you've signed it and he will sign it, Mr. Wagas will sign it.

4987
04:50:16,680 --> 04:50:17,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we're good.

4988
04:50:19,200 --> 04:50:20,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we're good.

4989
04:50:20,640 --> 04:50:22,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Secretary, for this.

4990
04:50:22,400 --> 04:50:26,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now, we can ensure that the data is rationalized.

4991
04:50:26,800 --> 04:50:31,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The information is iisa.

4992
04:50:31,820 --> 04:50:37,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang hirap nung dalawang iisa gobyerno, dalawa datos, di ba?

4993
04:50:38,600 --> 04:50:40,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: On the matter of supply.

4994
04:50:40,860 --> 04:50:41,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Huwag naman, di ba?

4995
04:50:42,740 --> 04:50:44,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Para ma-reconcile natin.

4996
04:50:44,680 --> 04:50:44,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

4997
04:50:45,440 --> 04:50:48,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we thank the good Secretary for this.

4998
04:50:49,440 --> 04:50:53,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And now, I turn the floor to the next round of Senator Aimee.

4999
04:50:53,580 --> 04:50:54,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ma'am, you have the floor.

5000
04:50:54,480 --> 04:50:54,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

5001
04:50:54,800 --> 04:50:55,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You have 10 minutes.

5002
04:50:55,600 --> 04:50:56,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Chair.

5003
04:50:56,120 --> 04:50:56,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Or even more.

5004
04:50:56,840 --> 04:50:58,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because you're the only one left.

5005
04:50:59,660 --> 04:51:00,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mag-duduwet tayo.

5006
04:51:01,220 --> 04:51:01,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Go ahead.

5007
04:51:01,400 --> 04:51:05,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ako maraming salamat, Mr. Chair at Senator Kiko.

5008
04:51:05,780 --> 04:51:08,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Following up dun sa tanong ninyo tungkol sa sibuyas,

5009
04:51:08,640 --> 04:51:15,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: magtatanong nang ako dito sa pinakasikat sa onion and garlic, yung Lea Cruz.

5010
04:51:16,620 --> 04:51:18,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Balibalita, namamayagpag na ulit.

5011
04:51:18,980 --> 04:51:25,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Samantalang meron siyang record-breaking fine ng 1.76 billion na administrative

5012
04:51:25,640 --> 04:51:26,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: dyan sa...

5013
04:51:26,800 --> 04:51:29,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: competition, commission, ano?

5014
04:51:30,220 --> 04:51:30,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Paano ba yun?

5015
04:51:31,060 --> 04:51:36,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tapos, maliban dyan, dapat may criminal charges pa rin at sandigan ba yan?

5016
04:51:37,000 --> 04:51:40,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero sa kabila ng lahat na yan, mga kaso-kasong yan,

5017
04:51:41,400 --> 04:51:46,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: mainit ang balita na andyan na naman siya sa sibuyas at bawang.

5018
04:51:46,740 --> 04:51:53,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano po ang update natin tungkol sa Lea Cruz at yung mga grupo ng allium na yan?

5019
04:51:53,880 --> 04:51:56,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: First of all, Mr. Chair, hindi ko kilala yan.

5020
04:51:56,520 --> 04:52:04,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Si Lea Cruz, narinig ko lang din sa dyaryo nung isang araw and I'm surprised na sa hatol sa kanya

5021
04:52:04,120 --> 04:52:09,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and happy in a sense dahil nga at least justice will be served.

5022
04:52:09,440 --> 04:52:15,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Well, very happy po kami kasi sa onion and garlic producers, notorious po ito.

5023
04:52:15,940 --> 04:52:19,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya nga lang narinig namin na nangangalakal pa rin.

5024
04:52:19,940 --> 04:52:26,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So ngayon, Mr. Chair, as far as red onion is concerned, wala tayong importasyon ng red onion.

5025
04:52:26,520 --> 04:52:30,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For this year and hopefully, baka next year, halos wala rin.

5026
04:52:30,760 --> 04:52:32,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sa puti at sa bawang.

5027
04:52:32,520 --> 04:52:40,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa puti, ngayon lang tayo nag-umpisa ng white onion importasyon and very limited quantity lang ho yan.

5028
04:52:41,140 --> 04:52:45,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It is distributed equally among the most people who applied.

5029
04:52:46,100 --> 04:52:52,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And I have not heard of Lea Cruz.

5030
04:52:53,280 --> 04:52:56,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But kung yan ho ang impormasyon nyo, I will investigate.

5031
04:52:56,520 --> 04:52:58,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I will investigate and deeper ang nakikinig naman yung enforcement natin.

5032
04:52:58,700 --> 04:53:06,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Papatulong lang po kami sa DA na pursigihin hindi lang yung napakalaking fine na pinapalakpakang po namin,

5033
04:53:06,220 --> 04:53:15,680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na 1.76 billion, kundi pati na rin yung criminal charges na dapat pursigihin sa DOJ at sa Sandigan.

5034
04:53:16,220 --> 04:53:25,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah, yes. Sige ho. I will try to pursue it with Secretary Vida and the others para nga mahuli ka agad at magbayad siya ka agad.

5035
04:53:25,540 --> 04:53:26,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you very much.

5036
04:53:26,520 --> 04:53:28,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you very much po. Malit lang yan sa kanya.

5037
04:53:28,820 --> 04:53:40,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ngayon sa post-harvest, sangayon po kami sa sinasabi ninyo na yung NIA sana tumutok doon sa big ticket items like the dams, the impoundment and so on.

5038
04:53:41,020 --> 04:53:44,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sangayon rin kami doon sa post-harvest na sinasabi po ninyo.

5039
04:53:44,920 --> 04:53:48,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero ang kasabihan, put your money where your mouth is.

5040
04:53:48,300 --> 04:53:56,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pag tinignan yung budget ng DA, hindi maliwanag kung saan yung post-harvest ang tanging nanging ibabaw.

5041
04:53:56,520 --> 04:54:02,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eh yung figure na napakaliit na nasa BIFAR, 516 million lamang.

5042
04:54:02,800 --> 04:54:13,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero nabanggit ninyo na nagkakaroon na tayo ng mga cold storage na magaganda, katulad sa tagig, tapos may logistics chain, may mga distribution and marketing effort.

5043
04:54:14,660 --> 04:54:19,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Magkano ba talaga ang ginagastos ng DA para sa post-harvest? Para sa kaalaman lang namin.

5044
04:54:23,900 --> 04:54:24,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ah...

5045
04:54:24,420 --> 04:54:26,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi meron rin banggit dito na...

5046
04:54:26,520 --> 04:54:30,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Naulit yata ni Secretary yung mechanical dryer, 380 pieces.

5047
04:54:31,540 --> 04:54:35,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At natuwa naman kami no, nabalitaan namin sa diaryo.

5048
04:54:39,480 --> 04:54:43,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Apakaliit eh, parang hindi siya priority pag tinignan yung budget.

5049
04:54:43,960 --> 04:54:50,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah yung sa, ah Mr. Chair, yung sa post-harvest natin, may 4.5 billion ano?

5050
04:54:51,360 --> 04:54:53,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi pa kasama yun sa RCEF o how much?

5051
04:54:53,620 --> 04:54:56,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Where is the 4.5 billion?

5052
04:54:56,520 --> 04:54:59,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Located po? Under what category?

5053
04:54:59,960 --> 04:55:02,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa mga banner programs po yan, Mr. Chair.

5054
04:55:02,960 --> 04:55:03,260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sa alin?

5055
04:55:03,300 --> 04:55:07,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kalat-kalat sa banner programs like National Rice Program, Coconut.

5056
04:55:08,180 --> 04:55:11,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: May RCEF, may National Rice Program.

5057
04:55:11,880 --> 04:55:13,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Corn Program, Madam Chair.

5058
04:55:14,380 --> 04:55:24,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, may we inquire lamang kung maari, bigyan lang kami ng listahan para maipakita na tinututukan naman yung post-harvest dahil yun nga ang daing ng napakarami.

5059
04:55:24,740 --> 04:55:25,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 23% na...

5060
04:55:26,520 --> 04:55:34,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ngayon, medyo mas maganda ang numero, sinasabing 16 to 17, pero parang hindi pa rin ramdam, ano?

5061
04:55:34,300 --> 04:55:38,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang laki nun kung tutuusin para sa problema natin sa bigas.

5062
04:55:38,480 --> 04:55:41,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, we're really keen on following that up.

5063
04:55:41,500 --> 04:55:45,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair, we will supply all the data and kung anong ginagawa.

5064
04:55:46,200 --> 04:55:51,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But sa totoo lang, kulang din ang pondo. We need more post-harvest facilities, Mr. Chair.

5065
04:55:51,840 --> 04:55:55,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, I only had a question.

5066
04:55:56,520 --> 04:56:00,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I also had a question with regard to NTA, yung tobacco.

5067
04:56:01,680 --> 04:56:12,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The tobacco fund had 11... had 116 billion at the end of 2025 with the projected collections of 13 billion.

5068
04:56:13,420 --> 04:56:19,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And yet, its proposed expenditure is only 699 million.

5069
04:56:19,840 --> 04:56:20,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Napakaliit.

5070
04:56:20,600 --> 04:56:24,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kung tutuusin, ihahambing mo sa billion-billion na kinikita.

5071
04:56:25,640 --> 04:56:26,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eh...

5072
04:56:26,360 --> 04:56:32,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: How much of that reported balance is actually available and legally usable?

5073
04:56:32,440 --> 04:56:37,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And what prevents a larger allocation for eligible tobacco farmer assistance?

5074
04:56:37,940 --> 04:56:41,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Bakit napapako sa wala pang 700 million?

5075
04:56:42,960 --> 04:56:44,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Nagtataka lang ako.

5076
04:56:44,800 --> 04:56:50,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung allocation sa budget ninyo, 143 million.

5077
04:56:50,660 --> 04:56:53,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Personal services, ganon din.

5078
04:56:54,040 --> 04:56:55,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 143 million halos.

5079
04:56:56,360 --> 04:57:01,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, ibig sabihin, ang farmer assistance na ibibigay, eh nasa 200 million na lang.

5080
04:57:03,440 --> 04:57:04,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Nakakatawa po eh.

5081
04:57:04,480 --> 04:57:13,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Why is the entire net increase in the NTA budget to be dedicated solely to higher personnel costs?

5082
04:57:13,880 --> 04:57:19,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Magtataas ba silang lahat ng sweldo rather than expansion of direct farmer assistance?

5083
04:57:19,840 --> 04:57:21,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, that's two questions.

5084
04:57:21,320 --> 04:57:26,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: How much money talaga yung NTA samantalang laki-laki ng levy?

5085
04:57:26,360 --> 04:57:32,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At ikalawa, bakit naman puro personal na lang ang bibigyan at hindi yung mismong farmer?

5086
04:57:33,120 --> 04:57:37,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Madam, Mr. Chair, we'll ask NTA head to explain.

5087
04:57:40,000 --> 04:57:41,500
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Good afternoon po, Madam Chair.

5088
04:57:41,620 --> 04:57:44,640
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yung increase po na binigay is for...

5089
04:57:44,640 --> 04:57:50,000
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Sa PS po napuntayin, dun po sa nung in-implement yung CPCS2.

5090
04:57:50,600 --> 04:57:53,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano yun? Sorry, sorry. Naa-alpha-benzupa ko.

5091
04:57:53,360 --> 04:57:54,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sa...

5092
04:57:54,360 --> 04:57:55,360
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Sa...

5093
04:57:56,360 --> 04:58:04,260
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Nung in-implement po yung CPCS2, yung conference, ano?

5094
04:58:06,600 --> 04:58:12,240
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Increase ng sahod po across the board ng lahat ng government agencies, mga DOCC po.

5095
04:58:12,240 --> 04:58:13,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: SSL? SSL? O alin?

5096
04:58:14,640 --> 04:58:16,060
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: CPCS po yung tawag.

5097
04:58:17,280 --> 04:58:20,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pakibasa kung alin yun? Kasi marami po increase ng sahod.

5098
04:58:20,660 --> 04:58:23,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero yung pinaka-basic standard salarization.

5099
04:58:23,640 --> 04:58:26,340
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yun po yung increase ng sahod po ng government.

5100
04:58:26,360 --> 04:58:27,900
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yung standardization po.

5101
04:58:28,260 --> 04:58:29,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Salary standardization.

5102
04:58:29,360 --> 04:58:30,560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mga DOCC po.

5103
04:58:31,060 --> 04:58:35,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pasensya, SSL ang pangalan nun? Iba yung sinasabi po ninyo?

5104
04:58:37,360 --> 04:58:38,040
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Compensation...

5105
04:58:38,040 --> 04:58:38,320
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Ano?

5106
04:58:42,840 --> 04:58:47,180
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Compensation and position classification po. System po.

5107
04:58:47,180 --> 04:58:54,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So kaya nagtaasa ng sweldo. Pero halos naubos naman yung budget ninyo sa sweldo lamang.

5108
04:58:54,400 --> 04:58:56,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano na lang ang ibibigay sa farmer?

5109
04:58:56,360 --> 04:59:02,180
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Hindi, ma'am. Doon lang po napunta yung increase na nadagdag. Pero regularly po.

5110
04:59:02,820 --> 04:59:07,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So you're saying that this is an increase mandated by law?

5111
04:59:08,840 --> 04:59:09,380
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yes, po.

5112
04:59:10,240 --> 04:59:10,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sure ka?

5113
04:59:11,400 --> 04:59:11,900
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yes, ma'am.

5114
04:59:11,940 --> 04:59:15,680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: O sige, bigay na lang ninyo yan sa amin. Kasi parang ang hirap i-justify.

5115
04:59:16,000 --> 04:59:19,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pag umabot kami sa plenaryo, e magtatakal lahat.

5116
04:59:19,260 --> 04:59:25,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At tinatanong talaga ito ng mga Ilocano kung bakit itong nangyari sa sweldo lang binigay lahat ng increase.

5117
04:59:25,440 --> 04:59:26,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At wala sila.

5118
04:59:26,360 --> 04:59:27,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At wala sila nagdagdag.

5119
04:59:29,280 --> 04:59:32,840
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Ma'am, continuous naman po yung proposal namin for additional.

5120
04:59:33,840 --> 04:59:36,880
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Coming from po nga doon sana sa excise tax.

5121
04:59:37,020 --> 04:59:39,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi kinakailangan ni Paliwanag,

5122
04:59:39,640 --> 04:59:46,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: why do you require as basis for making half of the production assistance repayable at the harvest?

5123
04:59:47,860 --> 04:59:55,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The safeguards against additional farmer indebtedness and the additional eligible support that can be financed from the tobacco fund.

5124
04:59:56,360 --> 04:59:58,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Paianoin nyo talaga po?

5125
04:59:58,300 --> 04:59:59,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Bakit yung base ninyo?

5126
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:02,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: half of the production

5127
05:00:02,020 --> 05:00:04,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: at repayable at harvest.

5128
05:00:04,480 --> 05:00:06,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano yung basehan ninyo to give assistance?

5129
05:00:06,900 --> 05:00:08,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi nagmumukhang very

5130
05:00:08,580 --> 05:00:10,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: random and

5131
05:00:10,520 --> 05:00:12,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: whimsical

5132
05:00:12,380 --> 05:00:14,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and capricious. Ika nga

5133
05:00:14,520 --> 05:00:15,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa batas.

5134
05:00:16,440 --> 05:00:18,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano ba yung basehan for giving

5135
05:00:18,600 --> 05:00:20,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: farmer assistance?

5136
05:00:21,700 --> 05:00:22,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Who's eligible

5137
05:00:22,480 --> 05:00:25,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for support? Hindi po namin naintindihan eh.

5138
05:00:25,820 --> 05:00:26,800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi kung sino-sinong

5139
05:00:26,800 --> 05:00:28,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: binibigyan, yung iba hindi bibigyan.

5140
05:00:30,000 --> 05:00:32,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang sabi nila kasi,

5141
05:00:32,860 --> 05:00:34,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: half of production assistance

5142
05:00:34,920 --> 05:00:36,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: repayable at harvest, ganun ba yun?

5143
05:00:37,560 --> 05:00:39,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pwede ba ipaliwanag

5144
05:00:39,000 --> 05:00:40,540
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ninyo sa amin kung sinong

5145
05:00:40,540 --> 05:00:42,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: bibigyan at sinong walang karapatang

5146
05:00:42,580 --> 05:00:43,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: bibigyan?

5147
05:00:44,480 --> 05:00:46,140
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Priority po namin bibigyan, ma'am.

5148
05:00:46,240 --> 05:00:48,260
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yung mga farmers namin under

5149
05:00:48,260 --> 05:00:50,540
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: sa contract growing system po.

5150
05:00:52,540 --> 05:00:54,120
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: So nagbibigay po kami ng

5151
05:00:54,120 --> 05:00:55,820
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: farm inputs, pati technology.

5152
05:00:55,820 --> 05:00:57,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sino-sino ang nasa contract growing

5153
05:00:57,860 --> 05:00:59,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: system ninyo para maalaman po namin?

5154
05:01:00,000 --> 05:01:01,700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Meron kayong listahan?

5155
05:01:02,040 --> 05:01:03,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Or pwede ninyo ipaliwanag?

5156
05:01:03,620 --> 05:01:05,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sino-sino? Aling probinsya?

5157
05:01:06,400 --> 05:01:07,940
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Lahat, ma'am. Region 1,

5158
05:01:08,100 --> 05:01:08,800
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Region 2,

5159
05:01:10,040 --> 05:01:11,740
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: sa hanggang Carpo.

5160
05:01:13,900 --> 05:01:15,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Parang wala akong

5161
05:01:15,820 --> 05:01:17,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: masyadong nababalitaan eh. Kaya gusto

5162
05:01:17,880 --> 05:01:19,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ko maalaman saan para matumbok

5163
05:01:19,760 --> 05:01:21,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: natin kung sino nga talaga ang nabibigyan.

5164
05:01:22,580 --> 05:01:23,980
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: We can provide a list, ma'am,

5165
05:01:24,080 --> 05:01:25,620
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: kung sino po yung mga kasama sa

5166
05:01:25,620 --> 05:01:27,080
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: contract growing system namin.

5167
05:01:27,080 --> 05:01:29,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano yung basehan ng additional

5168
05:01:29,240 --> 05:01:31,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: farmer indebtedness, yung

5169
05:01:31,280 --> 05:01:32,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yun nga, yung mga eligibility.

5170
05:01:33,340 --> 05:01:35,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi ang dami-daming nagtatanong,

5171
05:01:35,240 --> 05:01:35,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ba't ganun?

5172
05:01:39,480 --> 05:01:41,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The other question

5173
05:01:41,000 --> 05:01:42,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is really a question of the

5174
05:01:42,960 --> 05:01:44,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Treasury. Maybe, Secretary, you can

5175
05:01:44,840 --> 05:01:47,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: inquire po. Kasi yung balanseng

5176
05:01:47,000 --> 05:01:48,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: tinakda ng ating Treasury,

5177
05:01:49,340 --> 05:01:50,680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung tobacco fund, dapat

5178
05:01:50,680 --> 05:01:52,260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 116B

5179
05:01:52,260 --> 05:01:54,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: noong 2025. Tapos

5180
05:01:54,960 --> 05:01:56,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa 2027,

5181
05:01:57,180 --> 05:01:58,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 13 billion na naman.

5182
05:01:59,240 --> 05:02:01,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eh hindi naman nararamdaman yan.

5183
05:02:01,480 --> 05:02:03,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At hindi naman namin nakikita.

5184
05:02:03,780 --> 05:02:05,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya, asan ba

5185
05:02:05,140 --> 05:02:06,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: napunta yung pagkarami-raming

5186
05:02:06,880 --> 05:02:07,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: billion-billion na yan?

5187
05:02:08,880 --> 05:02:10,920
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Ma'am, hindi rin po kasi na

5188
05:02:10,920 --> 05:02:13,340
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: wala kaming access po, ma'am.

5189
05:02:13,380 --> 05:02:15,620
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yes. Opo. Nasa DBM po.

5190
05:02:15,640 --> 05:02:17,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Secretary, would you have any insight

5191
05:02:17,300 --> 05:02:19,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: into this enormous amount that doesn't

5192
05:02:19,320 --> 05:02:21,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: seem to make it to the farms?

5193
05:02:21,420 --> 05:02:23,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, honestly, I

5194
05:02:23,280 --> 05:02:25,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: don't. But with

5195
05:02:25,140 --> 05:02:27,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: your inquiry now and your

5196
05:02:27,040 --> 05:02:29,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I will actually, I was just a little bit afraid.

5197
05:02:29,240 --> 05:02:30,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Discussing with my USEC for operations.

5198
05:02:31,360 --> 05:02:32,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We'll go a deep dive into it and

5199
05:02:32,960 --> 05:02:34,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: get to the bottom of things.

5200
05:02:34,780 --> 05:02:37,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Malaking bagay yan. Kasi kung ganyang kalalaki

5201
05:02:37,240 --> 05:02:39,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yan, Secretary, yung problema

5202
05:02:39,120 --> 05:02:40,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: natin sa post-harvest,

5203
05:02:41,080 --> 05:02:42,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: eh at least masasagot na yan

5204
05:02:42,820 --> 05:02:44,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa Northern Luzon. At

5205
05:02:44,920 --> 05:02:47,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: hundreds of billions po

5206
05:02:47,160 --> 05:02:49,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang pinag-uusapan. Yun na yung budget

5207
05:02:49,160 --> 05:02:51,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ninyo. And perhaps

5208
05:02:51,020 --> 05:02:52,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in that same inquiry, we can

5209
05:02:52,740 --> 05:02:55,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: also ask what is actually

5210
05:02:55,120 --> 05:02:57,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: available now in cash

5211
05:02:57,420 --> 05:02:59,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and legally,

5212
05:02:59,240 --> 05:03:00,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: legally usable para

5213
05:03:00,940 --> 05:03:03,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: maipigay na. At yun nga,

5214
05:03:03,320 --> 05:03:05,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: tutukan na nga yung post-harvest and

5215
05:03:05,080 --> 05:03:06,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: irrigation. Hindi po ba?

5216
05:03:07,260 --> 05:03:09,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, Madam

5217
05:03:09,280 --> 05:03:10,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Senator,

5218
05:03:11,720 --> 05:03:13,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: salamat sa iyong direction

5219
05:03:13,020 --> 05:03:15,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and we will take your

5220
05:03:15,480 --> 05:03:17,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lead and follow through.

5221
05:03:17,600 --> 05:03:19,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Puling hirit na lang po sa tabako

5222
05:03:19,460 --> 05:03:21,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kasi namong problema

5223
05:03:21,520 --> 05:03:23,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kami, baka maitanong na rin sa

5224
05:03:23,180 --> 05:03:24,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: DOF kung bakit

5225
05:03:24,760 --> 05:03:26,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sinasama sa provincial,

5226
05:03:26,980 --> 05:03:29,040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: LGU, municipal,

5227
05:03:29,240 --> 05:03:31,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: income, yung

5228
05:03:31,160 --> 05:03:33,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: excise taxes share.

5229
05:03:33,620 --> 05:03:35,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Samantalang tulad nga nung

5230
05:03:35,060 --> 05:03:36,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sinabi ni Ma'am Sanchez,

5231
05:03:37,040 --> 05:03:38,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: hindi naman rinirelease.

5232
05:03:39,420 --> 05:03:41,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eh bakit nilalagay sa provincial

5233
05:03:41,240 --> 05:03:43,260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: income or kaya sa municipal

5234
05:03:43,260 --> 05:03:44,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: income, sa city income,

5235
05:03:45,300 --> 05:03:46,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sinasama nila sa income.

5236
05:03:47,640 --> 05:03:49,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eh hindi naman binibigay. Bakit

5237
05:03:49,280 --> 05:03:51,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nasa income? Pwedeng tanungin

5238
05:03:51,400 --> 05:03:53,040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na rin yun. Kasi hindi naman siya income.

5239
05:03:53,180 --> 05:03:55,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: It's not regular. It's not

5240
05:03:55,060 --> 05:03:57,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: complete. The releases are

5241
05:03:57,200 --> 05:03:59,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: so sporadic. So this is

5242
05:03:59,240 --> 05:04:00,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: what we would like to ask as well.

5243
05:04:01,480 --> 05:04:03,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, I guess

5244
05:04:03,000 --> 05:04:05,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I've instructed my COS

5245
05:04:05,240 --> 05:04:06,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to make sure that we have something

5246
05:04:06,980 --> 05:04:09,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to give you a report

5247
05:04:09,240 --> 05:04:11,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: before the plenary and kung ano man

5248
05:04:11,280 --> 05:04:12,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang aming proposals.

5249
05:04:14,320 --> 05:04:15,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you very much.

5250
05:04:18,660 --> 05:04:20,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You still have time.

5251
05:04:21,740 --> 05:04:23,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You still have three minutes. Go ahead.

5252
05:04:29,240 --> 05:04:31,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, I think

5253
05:04:31,620 --> 05:04:33,700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the reduction

5254
05:04:33,700 --> 05:04:35,260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: although welcomed by our

5255
05:04:35,260 --> 05:04:37,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: financial managers of the

5256
05:04:37,240 --> 05:04:39,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: DA's proposed budget for 2027

5257
05:04:39,660 --> 05:04:41,260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is causing some level

5258
05:04:41,260 --> 05:04:43,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: of alarm among our agricultural

5259
05:04:43,020 --> 05:04:45,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: communities. Given

5260
05:04:45,280 --> 05:04:47,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: that we are going to

5261
05:04:47,320 --> 05:04:49,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: be challenged by an extreme

5262
05:04:49,220 --> 05:04:50,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: El Nino situation.

5263
05:04:51,880 --> 05:04:53,260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Maari bang malaman kung alin

5264
05:04:53,260 --> 05:04:55,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung mga specific programs

5265
05:04:55,100 --> 05:04:57,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and projects na talagang

5266
05:04:57,000 --> 05:04:58,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: pinakamabigat ang tama?

5267
05:04:59,240 --> 05:05:01,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Saan ba talagang na-reduce ng todo-todo

5268
05:05:01,600 --> 05:05:03,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: para walang gulatan?

5269
05:05:05,940 --> 05:05:07,540
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Will this affect

5270
05:05:07,540 --> 05:05:08,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: food security

5271
05:05:08,580 --> 05:05:11,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: given the anticipated shortages?

5272
05:05:11,880 --> 05:05:13,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Will this hit farmers'

5273
05:05:13,540 --> 05:05:15,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: income given the inflation

5274
05:05:15,420 --> 05:05:17,800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: that's officially at 7% already?

5275
05:05:18,640 --> 05:05:20,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yun ang kinatatakutan

5276
05:05:20,120 --> 05:05:20,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng lahat.

5277
05:05:22,740 --> 05:05:23,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair,

5278
05:05:23,860 --> 05:05:25,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang isang malaking bawas sa amin

5279
05:05:25,560 --> 05:05:27,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa banner program sa RISE din.

5280
05:05:27,580 --> 05:05:29,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That's why we are requesting

5281
05:05:29,240 --> 05:05:30,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for an additional 8 billion.

5282
05:05:32,300 --> 05:05:33,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa livestock naman,

5283
05:05:33,680 --> 05:05:35,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung maayos naman,

5284
05:05:35,340 --> 05:05:37,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it will go back to dati

5285
05:05:37,620 --> 05:05:39,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: which would be okay.

5286
05:05:45,600 --> 05:05:46,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So right now,

5287
05:05:46,960 --> 05:05:48,700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: price po and livestock

5288
05:05:48,700 --> 05:05:50,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: that got hit.

5289
05:05:50,140 --> 05:05:52,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa farm-to-market na reduction

5290
05:05:52,100 --> 05:05:54,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na 17 billion, malaki din yun.

5291
05:05:54,900 --> 05:05:57,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The farm-to-market, the FMR,

5292
05:05:57,300 --> 05:05:59,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is that, are you referring to the

5293
05:05:59,080 --> 05:05:59,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PIP?

5294
05:05:59,240 --> 05:05:59,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Are you referring to the RDP?

5295
05:06:00,340 --> 05:06:01,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Or iba pa yun?

5296
05:06:01,460 --> 05:06:03,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's your other regular program?

5297
05:06:03,380 --> 05:06:04,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Madam.

5298
05:06:04,780 --> 05:06:05,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's the regular DA?

5299
05:06:06,320 --> 05:06:06,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes.

5300
05:06:07,840 --> 05:06:08,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So,

5301
05:06:12,120 --> 05:06:13,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yun sa livestock,

5302
05:06:13,620 --> 05:06:14,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung kanina nabanggit ko,

5303
05:06:14,680 --> 05:06:17,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung maayos yun dahil nabawasan yung budget.

5304
05:06:17,800 --> 05:06:19,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But because of IDCA,

5305
05:06:19,340 --> 05:06:21,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but if mababalik naman yung regular budget namin

5306
05:06:21,860 --> 05:06:24,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: through the help of the Senate,

5307
05:06:24,460 --> 05:06:25,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: then I think that will be okay na.

5308
05:06:26,640 --> 05:06:27,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In crop insurance,

5309
05:06:27,580 --> 05:06:29,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yun malaking bagay binawas.

5310
05:06:29,240 --> 05:06:31,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ay naku, kailangan na kailangan yun.

5311
05:06:31,900 --> 05:06:32,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Lalo na next year.

5312
05:06:33,020 --> 05:06:34,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Next year, patay tayo dyan.

5313
05:06:34,540 --> 05:06:36,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, so kung matulungan ho kami tungkol dyan.

5314
05:06:37,960 --> 05:06:39,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Of course, meron pa kami kulang

5315
05:06:39,900 --> 05:06:41,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa funding ng

5316
05:06:41,040 --> 05:06:42,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: obligational

5317
05:06:42,500 --> 05:06:45,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: authority,

5318
05:06:45,540 --> 05:06:47,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: PRDP na 1 billion.

5319
05:06:50,600 --> 05:06:51,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Alin ho yun?

5320
05:06:51,820 --> 05:06:52,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Alin yun?

5321
05:06:53,760 --> 05:06:55,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Philippine Rural Development Project

5322
05:06:56,100 --> 05:06:58,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: based on the funding schedules

5323
05:06:58,280 --> 05:06:59,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ah, yung PRDP?

5324
05:07:00,180 --> 05:07:01,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PRDP na yan?

5325
05:07:01,300 --> 05:07:02,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, PRDP na yan.

5326
05:07:02,140 --> 05:07:03,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PRDP counterpart?

5327
05:07:03,800 --> 05:07:04,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, yes.

5328
05:07:05,140 --> 05:07:06,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Binawasan yung counterpart natin?

5329
05:07:09,700 --> 05:07:12,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yeah, na 700 million.

5330
05:07:13,400 --> 05:07:15,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, my question also there,

5331
05:07:15,420 --> 05:07:17,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: that's been a long-standing project

5332
05:07:17,060 --> 05:07:19,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and I'm just wondering,

5333
05:07:20,080 --> 05:07:22,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: have we renegotiated the terms of that loan?

5334
05:07:22,880 --> 05:07:23,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's a loan, di ba?

5335
05:07:25,280 --> 05:07:27,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pa-expire na siya, patapos na siya.

5336
05:07:28,280 --> 05:07:30,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: By 2028, Mr. Chair.

5337
05:07:30,960 --> 05:07:32,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, it's a very successful project.

5338
05:07:33,140 --> 05:07:34,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Actually, oversubscribed tayo.

5339
05:07:35,420 --> 05:07:37,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, kulang, we're requesting

5340
05:07:37,060 --> 05:07:39,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the World Bank for an additional

5341
05:07:39,040 --> 05:07:40,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: extension, sana dahil.

5342
05:07:41,440 --> 05:07:42,700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: From 2028.

5343
05:07:42,820 --> 05:07:43,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes.

5344
05:07:43,220 --> 05:07:44,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, I see.

5345
05:07:45,060 --> 05:07:46,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At saka, natagalan yan eh.

5346
05:07:47,960 --> 05:07:50,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Dati, dati ang tawag po namin dyan,

5347
05:07:50,140 --> 05:07:51,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: puro review

5348
05:07:51,000 --> 05:07:52,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: daily project.

5349
05:07:53,220 --> 05:07:55,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: But, I think now it's much, much faster.

5350
05:07:55,740 --> 05:07:57,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: It is very successful.

5351
05:07:57,660 --> 05:07:58,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And talaga,

5352
05:07:58,260 --> 05:08:00,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasi ang tagal-tagal niyan, hindi talaga umuusad eh.

5353
05:08:00,660 --> 05:08:01,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Finally, ho.

5354
05:08:01,980 --> 05:08:03,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Okay. So, maraming salamat.

5355
05:08:03,980 --> 05:08:05,800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung itatanong ko, yung BFAR and

5356
05:08:05,800 --> 05:08:08,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: NFRDI.

5357
05:08:09,160 --> 05:08:10,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: What is delaying

5358
05:08:10,340 --> 05:08:11,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the fisheries investment?

5359
05:08:12,280 --> 05:08:14,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And how are its benefits measured?

5360
05:08:14,660 --> 05:08:15,560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: In 2025,

5361
05:08:16,020 --> 05:08:19,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: fish core obligated 1.188 billion

5362
05:08:19,340 --> 05:08:21,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: or 36.9%

5363
05:08:21,120 --> 05:08:22,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: only

5364
05:08:22,360 --> 05:08:24,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: of its 3.2 billion

5365
05:08:24,980 --> 05:08:25,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: allotment.

5366
05:08:25,640 --> 05:08:27,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And then, its disbursement,

5367
05:08:27,960 --> 05:08:29,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: it was even less.

5368
05:08:29,140 --> 05:08:31,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Only 572.995.

5369
05:08:33,480 --> 05:08:35,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: What are these infrastructure

5370
05:08:35,620 --> 05:08:37,800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and livelihood projects that are so

5371
05:08:37,800 --> 05:08:38,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: delayed?

5372
05:08:39,340 --> 05:08:41,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And when will the fisher folk finally receive

5373
05:08:41,640 --> 05:08:43,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the intended benefits?

5374
05:08:43,820 --> 05:08:46,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Bakit po natatagalan ng todo-todo?

5375
05:08:47,480 --> 05:08:47,940
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Tagot.

5376
05:08:49,200 --> 05:08:50,260
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Mr. Chair,

5377
05:08:51,000 --> 05:08:52,500
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ma'am, good afternoon.

5378
05:08:53,560 --> 05:08:55,120
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yung talaga niya about the fish core,

5379
05:08:55,840 --> 05:08:57,520
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: sa first transition kasi,

5380
05:08:57,520 --> 05:08:59,420
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: medyo mahirap po yung requirements po ng

5381
05:08:59,420 --> 05:09:00,600
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: World Bank.

5382
05:09:01,300 --> 05:09:02,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi ba kaya pa simple yan?

5383
05:09:03,020 --> 05:09:05,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi dinaanan na natin yan ng PRDP.

5384
05:09:05,300 --> 05:09:07,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi ba pwedeng usapan na

5385
05:09:07,060 --> 05:09:09,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: i-streamline na lang yan?

5386
05:09:09,680 --> 05:09:12,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi nakakaawa yung fisher folk natin.

5387
05:09:12,240 --> 05:09:14,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: As we know, the poverty rates

5388
05:09:14,000 --> 05:09:15,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on the coastal areas are

5389
05:09:15,280 --> 05:09:17,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: two and a half times that of anywhere else.

5390
05:09:17,780 --> 05:09:19,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I think we should address this with great urgency.

5391
05:09:20,520 --> 05:09:21,460
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ma'am, naayos po namin.

5392
05:09:22,160 --> 05:09:24,200
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Naayos na po na paganda na

5393
05:09:24,200 --> 05:09:25,520
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: by last June,

5394
05:09:25,520 --> 05:09:26,380
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: by last June,

5395
05:09:27,520 --> 05:09:29,740
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: yung ating obligation,

5396
05:09:29,940 --> 05:09:32,220
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: almost 55% na

5397
05:09:32,220 --> 05:09:34,240
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: kasama na po doon, ma'am,

5398
05:09:34,320 --> 05:09:35,660
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: yung ating IMPRA.

5399
05:09:36,080 --> 05:09:38,240
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yung IMPRA natin almost completed na

5400
05:09:38,240 --> 05:09:41,400
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: out of 647 million,

5401
05:09:42,060 --> 05:09:43,380
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: almost done.

5402
05:09:43,740 --> 05:09:45,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi natin dapat biguin

5403
05:09:45,120 --> 05:09:47,040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang ating mga mga isda

5404
05:09:47,040 --> 05:09:49,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kasi talagang inaasahan nila

5405
05:09:49,200 --> 05:09:51,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na jackpot sila kay sekretary

5406
05:09:51,160 --> 05:09:52,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: dahil fishing magnate.

5407
05:09:52,580 --> 05:09:53,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya, eto nga,

5408
05:09:53,940 --> 05:09:57,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na nalulogmok sila,

5409
05:09:57,520 --> 05:09:59,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: doon sa 36.9% lamang

5410
05:09:59,880 --> 05:10:01,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na obligasyon, dapat mataas-taas

5411
05:10:01,860 --> 05:10:02,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: naman natin.

5412
05:10:02,560 --> 05:10:04,120
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ma'am, we're praying

5413
05:10:04,120 --> 05:10:07,300
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: that by the end of December

5414
05:10:07,300 --> 05:10:09,400
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: 2026, yung aming

5415
05:10:09,400 --> 05:10:11,100
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: obligation, almost

5416
05:10:11,100 --> 05:10:13,140
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: 85 to 90%.

5417
05:10:13,140 --> 05:10:14,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, wala na ito?

5418
05:10:14,660 --> 05:10:16,260
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Wala na yung mga updated na.

5419
05:10:16,400 --> 05:10:18,200
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Pwede kami mag-submit, ma'am, ng updated.

5420
05:10:18,320 --> 05:10:21,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Para masagot naman namin yung mga nagtatanong.

5421
05:10:21,580 --> 05:10:22,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Maliban dito, yung

5422
05:10:22,660 --> 05:10:24,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: NFRDI,

5423
05:10:24,440 --> 05:10:26,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: may accomplishment report

5424
05:10:27,520 --> 05:10:28,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sumobra naman yata ang ganda,

5425
05:10:28,940 --> 05:10:31,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 123.98%.

5426
05:10:31,600 --> 05:10:34,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano ibig sabihin nun?

5427
05:10:35,260 --> 05:10:36,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: What does it measure?

5428
05:10:37,220 --> 05:10:38,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Fish production ba yan?

5429
05:10:38,920 --> 05:10:39,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Cost?

5430
05:10:40,420 --> 05:10:41,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Coastal income?

5431
05:10:42,720 --> 05:10:45,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano ibig sabihin nung 123.98?

5432
05:10:46,980 --> 05:10:48,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Lumabis naman yata ito.

5433
05:10:51,740 --> 05:10:53,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang nag-report nyan yung

5434
05:10:53,580 --> 05:10:54,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: NFRDI,

5435
05:10:54,780 --> 05:10:56,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ay, andito ba kayo?

5436
05:10:57,520 --> 05:11:03,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano ibig sabihin nito?

5437
05:11:03,460 --> 05:11:04,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi, kasi natuwa naman ako.

5438
05:11:04,880 --> 05:11:06,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya lang, biglang napaisip ako.

5439
05:11:06,860 --> 05:11:08,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano kaya ibig sabihin nito?

5440
05:11:27,520 --> 05:11:34,080
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Hello. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair.

5441
05:11:34,080 --> 05:11:40,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung halos 124% accomplishment, ano ibig sabihin nun? Fish production output?

5442
05:11:40,680 --> 05:11:46,180
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Ma'am, that's output. But to correct, ma'am, it's physical accomplishment po.

5443
05:11:46,580 --> 05:11:48,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Define physical accomplishment.

5444
05:11:48,220 --> 05:12:02,640
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: So, yung ma'am, what we target in terms of our deliverables, like trainings and establishment of the aqua business.

5445
05:12:03,640 --> 05:12:14,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, yung actual fish production, yung actual costing, yung actual beneficio sa income, sa pera sa bulsa ng mga isda, wala yun?

5446
05:12:14,960 --> 05:12:15,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Wala po.

5447
05:12:15,420 --> 05:12:16,920
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Yes po.

5448
05:12:16,980 --> 05:12:18,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Puro training lang kayo doon?

5449
05:12:18,220 --> 05:12:24,400
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Yes po. Because, ma'am, we support po yung mga activities ng BIFAR.

5450
05:12:24,400 --> 05:12:31,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Alam ninyo yung DA, kapag nag-training kayo, diba, nag-techno-demo kayo, ang tawag po sa amin, techno-demonyo na.

5451
05:12:32,080 --> 05:12:46,980
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Opo. Mr. Chair, yung po kasing function ng NFRDI is research. So, ang assignment po namin sa Fish Corps is on the capacity building ng mga technicians ng BIFAR.

5452
05:12:46,980 --> 05:12:52,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, yung 123, ibig sabihin marami kayong na-train. Labis-labis ang na-train ninyo.

5453
05:12:52,700 --> 05:12:59,340
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Ma'am, gusto ko po sana i-correct. I think that is 100% po, not 120%.

5454
05:12:59,340 --> 05:13:00,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: It's in your report.

5455
05:13:01,500 --> 05:13:04,440
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: So, ma'am, siguro i-double check po namin.

5456
05:13:04,660 --> 05:13:06,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: But this has everything to do with training.

5457
05:13:07,100 --> 05:13:07,760
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Yes, ma'am.

5458
05:13:08,260 --> 05:13:11,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Walang uptick in fish production or anything?

5459
05:13:11,160 --> 05:13:12,200
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: No, wala, ma'am.

5460
05:13:12,280 --> 05:13:15,940
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: For example, ma'am, with regards to fish stock assessment.

5461
05:13:15,940 --> 05:13:16,800
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: We conduct.

5462
05:13:16,980 --> 05:13:19,960
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: We conduct capacity training on the.

5463
05:13:19,980 --> 05:13:22,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ay, puro training yan sa katutak na techno-demo.

5464
05:13:22,720 --> 05:13:34,600
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: And as well as, ma'am, yung data consolidation ng mga data from the stock assessment as well as we conduct the carrying capacity of our mariculture parks.

5465
05:13:35,880 --> 05:13:38,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Okay, okay. So, ganun lang yun. Yun lang, totally.

5466
05:13:39,420 --> 05:13:41,560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Na-excited ako. Akala ko butoon eh.

5467
05:13:42,020 --> 05:13:43,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: O, sige. Okay.

5468
05:13:43,640 --> 05:13:45,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, thank you.

5469
05:13:45,620 --> 05:13:46,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you po.

5470
05:13:46,980 --> 05:13:53,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ACPC po, the COA identified 518 million undisbursed credit funds

5471
05:13:53,620 --> 05:14:01,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: that were not returned by partner lending conduits.

5472
05:14:01,420 --> 05:14:02,680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano ba ibig sabihin ito?

5473
05:14:03,000 --> 05:14:07,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: How much has been recovered or actually lent to eligible borrowers?

5474
05:14:08,160 --> 05:14:10,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi yung ACPC na yan, matagal na yan.

5475
05:14:11,480 --> 05:14:14,540
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eh ngayon, may undisbursed credit funds pa.

5476
05:14:14,540 --> 05:14:16,540
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Paano tayo hihingi ng karagdaga?

5477
05:14:16,980 --> 05:14:19,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kapag hindi dinidisbursed ng DA?

5478
05:14:21,040 --> 05:14:23,500
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Madam Chair.

5479
05:14:24,440 --> 05:14:27,580
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: For that findings, ma'am, that was already resolved po.

5480
05:14:28,040 --> 05:14:33,900
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: As of today po, the only unreturned undisbursed fund for 2025 is only 50 million.

5481
05:14:34,920 --> 05:14:36,240
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: 50 million, ma'am.

5482
05:14:36,340 --> 05:14:36,940
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Five zero?

5483
05:14:37,300 --> 05:14:37,880
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Yes, ma'am.

5484
05:14:38,300 --> 05:14:42,760
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: So, which conduits took so long?

5485
05:14:43,900 --> 05:14:46,080
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Actually, ma'am, it's for 2025.

5486
05:14:46,080 --> 05:14:48,740
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: And we are now resolving it.

5487
05:14:48,900 --> 05:14:52,640
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: We've already sent the demand letter to this partner lending conduit po.

5488
05:14:52,900 --> 05:14:53,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sino-sino sila?

5489
05:14:53,940 --> 05:14:54,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pwedeng mahala?

5490
05:14:54,460 --> 05:14:55,620
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Isa lang po siya, ma'am.

5491
05:14:55,680 --> 05:14:55,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Huh?

5492
05:14:56,400 --> 05:14:57,700
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Nag-iisa lang naman po.

5493
05:14:57,720 --> 05:14:58,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sino naman?

5494
05:14:59,140 --> 05:15:00,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang tagal.

5495
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:04,080
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: sa North Luzon

5496
05:15:04,080 --> 05:15:05,040
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: po ma'am.

5497
05:15:05,880 --> 05:15:08,340
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: It's Guagua Rural Bank po.

5498
05:15:08,600 --> 05:15:09,040
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Guagua?

5499
05:15:09,860 --> 05:15:11,280
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Ba't nangyari yun?

5500
05:15:12,060 --> 05:15:14,020
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Ma'am, nagkaroon lang po siguro

5501
05:15:14,020 --> 05:15:16,080
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: ng, actually

5502
05:15:16,080 --> 05:15:18,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ma'am. Gano'ng katagal na iwan

5503
05:15:18,200 --> 05:15:20,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa Guagua? Matagal eh. Ang balita

5504
05:15:20,200 --> 05:15:22,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ako, tagal-tagal. Hindi naman

5505
05:15:22,100 --> 05:15:23,620
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: ma'am. Mga one year po.

5506
05:15:23,900 --> 05:15:25,700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: One year lang? Okay.

5507
05:15:26,260 --> 05:15:26,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano nangyari?

5508
05:15:26,840 --> 05:15:29,020
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: The fund

5509
05:15:29,020 --> 05:15:30,400
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: was disbursed to them

5510
05:15:30,400 --> 05:15:32,620
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: to implement

5511
05:15:32,620 --> 05:15:34,840
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: a particular program. It's

5512
05:15:34,840 --> 05:15:35,980
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: for the palay yield

5513
05:15:35,980 --> 05:15:39,000
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: increase po. This is the entire

5514
05:15:39,000 --> 05:15:40,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 518.5?

5515
05:15:40,920 --> 05:15:41,560
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: No, ma'am, no.

5516
05:15:41,700 --> 05:15:43,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: How much was released to Guagua?

5517
05:15:43,400 --> 05:15:46,760
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: 90 million, ma'am. The 40 million was released to

5518
05:15:46,760 --> 05:15:48,640
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: borrowers, to end borrowers.

5519
05:15:49,080 --> 05:15:50,660
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Only the 50 million po ang

5520
05:15:50,660 --> 05:15:51,820
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: remaining po na

5521
05:15:51,820 --> 05:15:53,640
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: undisbursed and returned.

5522
05:15:54,160 --> 05:15:56,700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Teka, pero yung kuha ninyo, 518

5523
05:15:56,700 --> 05:15:58,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang rin na red flag? Sa

5524
05:15:58,340 --> 05:16:00,640
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: reconciliation lang naman po yun. Pero

5525
05:16:00,640 --> 05:16:02,360
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: na-address na po namin siya.

5526
05:16:02,780 --> 05:16:04,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: O sige, mag-submit na lang kayo kasi

5527
05:16:04,500 --> 05:16:06,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: hindi siya good looking sa aming

5528
05:16:06,500 --> 05:16:08,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: mga report card. Sige.

5529
05:16:08,680 --> 05:16:10,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: With the permission of Senator Aimee,

5530
05:16:10,780 --> 05:16:12,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: just on the ACPC,

5531
05:16:14,920 --> 05:16:15,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung

5532
05:16:15,240 --> 05:16:17,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa GIPSA

5533
05:16:17,020 --> 05:16:18,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ka-act, meron ng

5534
05:16:18,780 --> 05:16:20,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pagbebentahan ang mga

5535
05:16:20,940 --> 05:16:22,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers natin, ano? Meron

5536
05:16:22,780 --> 05:16:24,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng secured market.

5537
05:16:24,920 --> 05:16:26,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Shouldn't the ACPC,

5538
05:16:26,700 --> 05:16:28,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: come up with a program

5539
05:16:28,820 --> 05:16:30,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that will precisely

5540
05:16:30,220 --> 05:16:32,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: provide credit

5541
05:16:32,520 --> 05:16:34,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for the sa GIPSA

5542
05:16:34,420 --> 05:16:36,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: program

5543
05:16:36,600 --> 05:16:38,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that the farmers

5544
05:16:38,900 --> 05:16:39,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: can, kasi

5545
05:16:39,880 --> 05:16:42,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kasama sa challenges

5546
05:16:42,240 --> 05:16:45,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng productivity,

5547
05:16:45,500 --> 05:16:46,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung access to credit,

5548
05:16:46,880 --> 05:16:47,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba?

5549
05:16:48,020 --> 05:16:50,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, while you now

5550
05:16:50,620 --> 05:16:52,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: have the demand side,

5551
05:16:53,480 --> 05:16:54,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: government buying directly

5552
05:16:54,780 --> 05:16:55,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: from the farmers,

5553
05:16:56,700 --> 05:16:58,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I understand, Quezon City government

5554
05:16:58,860 --> 05:16:59,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bought about

5555
05:16:59,740 --> 05:17:03,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 230 million

5556
05:17:03,000 --> 05:17:04,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: worth of rice

5557
05:17:04,020 --> 05:17:06,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa mga co-ops, no?

5558
05:17:08,160 --> 05:17:08,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

5559
05:17:09,260 --> 05:17:09,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meron ba kayong

5560
05:17:09,960 --> 05:17:12,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: intervention? Meron ba kayong

5561
05:17:12,920 --> 05:17:15,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: programa

5562
05:17:15,180 --> 05:17:17,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: precisely to provide

5563
05:17:17,200 --> 05:17:18,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: credit for the

5564
05:17:18,920 --> 05:17:21,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers so that

5565
05:17:21,100 --> 05:17:22,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they can, you know,

5566
05:17:22,720 --> 05:17:25,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ensure a steady supply for

5567
05:17:25,040 --> 05:17:26,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the sa GIPSA ka-market?

5568
05:17:26,700 --> 05:17:27,860
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Yes, sir. Thank you for that

5569
05:17:27,860 --> 05:17:29,100
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: question, Mr. Chair.

5570
05:17:29,580 --> 05:17:30,900
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: We have po what we call the

5571
05:17:30,900 --> 05:17:32,740
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: agri-negosyo loan program, wherein

5572
05:17:32,740 --> 05:17:35,140
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: we lend to cooperatives, micro-small

5573
05:17:35,140 --> 05:17:36,980
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: enterprise po. So,

5574
05:17:37,160 --> 05:17:38,980
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: the loan amount po, especially

5575
05:17:38,980 --> 05:17:40,680
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: for working capital, is up to

5576
05:17:40,680 --> 05:17:42,860
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: 25 million, which is more than

5577
05:17:42,860 --> 05:17:44,840
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: enough, actually, sir, to support their

5578
05:17:44,840 --> 05:17:46,460
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: trading business as well.

5579
05:17:47,820 --> 05:17:49,080
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Yun po, sir, yung isa sa mga

5580
05:17:49,080 --> 05:17:51,020
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: programa namin, wherein one of

5581
05:17:51,020 --> 05:17:53,160
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: the things that we do, sir, is to register

5582
05:17:53,160 --> 05:17:54,900
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: sa FEDIS, sir, lahat po ng mga

5583
05:17:54,900 --> 05:17:56,540
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: MSEs

5584
05:17:56,540 --> 05:18:05,480
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: na sinusupport po namin para din po in compliance po with the SACA Act. All of these MSEs, sir, are required to register, sir, sa FEDIS po.

5585
05:18:05,480 --> 05:18:10,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: No, I was referring to farmers enterprises and co-ops.

5586
05:18:10,580 --> 05:18:14,000
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Yes, sir. Those are co-ops, sir, and farmer enterprises.

5587
05:18:14,000 --> 05:18:25,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi, di ba, pwede na na yung collateral mo ay yung kontrata? Di ba? Di ba? Halimbawa, yung PIDIG Multipurpose Cooperative,

5588
05:18:25,860 --> 05:18:29,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: parang 52 million ang benta nila

5589
05:18:29,500 --> 05:18:30,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa Quezon City Government.

5590
05:18:32,000 --> 05:18:33,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? So,

5591
05:18:33,720 --> 05:18:35,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para madagdagan nila

5592
05:18:35,300 --> 05:18:37,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung capacity nila to produce,

5593
05:18:37,820 --> 05:18:39,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba, makakapag-utang sila,

5594
05:18:39,300 --> 05:18:41,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then, pwede nyo pa-utangin, no?

5595
05:18:42,020 --> 05:18:42,900
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Yes, sir. Under the

5596
05:18:42,900 --> 05:18:44,680
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: agri-negosyo loan program, sir, pwede po, sir.

5597
05:18:44,680 --> 05:18:46,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Can you give me, well,

5598
05:18:46,900 --> 05:18:48,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if you have the information, no,

5599
05:18:49,100 --> 05:18:51,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a list, if

5600
05:18:51,140 --> 05:18:52,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meron na, ng mga

5601
05:18:52,760 --> 05:18:54,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pinautangan ninyo na ang kanilang

5602
05:18:54,920 --> 05:18:56,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kliyente, eh,

5603
05:18:56,140 --> 05:18:58,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang gobyerno bumibili sa kanila,

5604
05:18:58,260 --> 05:18:59,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meron ba kayo nun?

5605
05:18:59,480 --> 05:19:03,200
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Sige, sir, we can provide you with a list, sir. We'll submit, sir.

5606
05:19:03,380 --> 05:19:04,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, please. Thank you. Go ahead, ma'am.

5607
05:19:04,840 --> 05:19:06,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, following up

5608
05:19:06,320 --> 05:19:08,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on Sen. Kiko, may

5609
05:19:08,420 --> 05:19:10,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: tanong, kasi may controversy

5610
05:19:10,420 --> 05:19:12,560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: dun sa mga nakalista

5611
05:19:12,560 --> 05:19:14,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na qualified sa

5612
05:19:14,400 --> 05:19:16,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ACPC na kinikilalang

5613
05:19:16,440 --> 05:19:17,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: agri-co-ops ng DA

5614
05:19:17,900 --> 05:19:20,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: versus yung mga co-ops

5615
05:19:20,460 --> 05:19:22,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na kinikilala ng CDA.

5616
05:19:22,260 --> 05:19:24,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi ba pwedeng i-align na once and for

5617
05:19:24,360 --> 05:19:25,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: all yung mga yan?

5618
05:19:26,140 --> 05:19:28,280
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Actually, ma'am, the requirement of the

5619
05:19:28,280 --> 05:19:30,300
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: ACPC po are the co-ops

5620
05:19:30,300 --> 05:19:32,200
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: registered in the

5621
05:19:32,200 --> 05:19:33,180
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: CDA.

5622
05:19:34,320 --> 05:19:36,040
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Since yun po yung regulatory.

5623
05:19:36,060 --> 05:19:38,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi, siguro nagkakalituhan kasi may

5624
05:19:38,320 --> 05:19:40,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nabanggit ka kanina ng mga

5625
05:19:40,120 --> 05:19:42,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: SMEs. Baka naman yun

5626
05:19:42,940 --> 05:19:43,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na hindi co-ops.

5627
05:19:43,980 --> 05:19:46,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The MSEs. Kasi naglereklamo sila na

5628
05:19:46,200 --> 05:19:48,560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: qualified daw sa CDA, di daw kinikilala

5629
05:19:48,560 --> 05:19:49,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and vice versa.

5630
05:19:49,400 --> 05:19:52,440
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Sa ACPC, ma'am, it's all registered

5631
05:19:52,440 --> 05:19:54,260
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: po under the CDA po.

5632
05:19:54,860 --> 05:19:55,980
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: I'm referring, ma'am, to

5633
05:19:55,980 --> 05:19:58,260
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: MSEs in terms of the classification

5634
05:19:58,260 --> 05:19:59,700
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: po in the asset size

5635
05:19:59,700 --> 05:20:01,980
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: of the enterprise, which includes

5636
05:20:01,980 --> 05:20:03,160
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: po the cooperatives.

5637
05:20:03,780 --> 05:20:05,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I see. But Secretary Kiko,

5638
05:20:06,180 --> 05:20:08,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: there is a bureau still under

5639
05:20:08,180 --> 05:20:10,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the DA for co-ops, or

5640
05:20:10,140 --> 05:20:11,560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is that no longer extant?

5641
05:20:12,120 --> 05:20:13,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, it is no longer

5642
05:20:13,860 --> 05:20:15,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in existence.

5643
05:20:16,500 --> 05:20:17,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But we have an office

5644
05:20:17,940 --> 05:20:20,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for agri-co-ops

5645
05:20:20,100 --> 05:20:21,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to assist agri-co-ops lang.

5646
05:20:21,960 --> 05:20:24,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang management

5647
05:20:24,080 --> 05:20:25,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and approvals pa rin yan sa CDA.

5648
05:20:25,980 --> 05:20:28,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then, yun na nga, may sinusulong

5649
05:20:28,080 --> 05:20:29,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: din na batas si Sen. Kiko

5650
05:20:29,680 --> 05:20:31,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na sinusuportahan ng

5651
05:20:31,460 --> 05:20:34,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Department of Agriculture for the

5652
05:20:34,040 --> 05:20:35,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Agricultural Cooperatives.

5653
05:20:35,760 --> 05:20:36,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

5654
05:20:38,320 --> 05:20:39,260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tapos na yun, no?

5655
05:20:40,120 --> 05:20:41,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ipirmahan na lang dapat?

5656
05:20:41,620 --> 05:20:42,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: House na lang.

5657
05:20:43,040 --> 05:20:44,260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Walang house version?

5658
05:20:45,940 --> 05:20:47,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero, madali naman pa sa'yo,

5659
05:20:48,000 --> 05:20:49,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: niwala nga ng appropriations clause

5660
05:20:49,740 --> 05:20:51,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung pobring bill na yun.

5661
05:20:53,180 --> 05:20:54,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya nga eh.

5662
05:20:54,320 --> 05:20:55,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya nga. So, yun,

5663
05:20:55,980 --> 05:20:57,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: itatanong namin, tapos yung mga

5664
05:20:57,920 --> 05:20:59,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: farm inputs na substandard,

5665
05:21:00,900 --> 05:21:02,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: andyan pa rin ba yung issue

5666
05:21:02,080 --> 05:21:03,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na yan? Kasi,

5667
05:21:03,960 --> 05:21:06,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: can the enforcement against substandard

5668
05:21:06,200 --> 05:21:07,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: farm inputs be sustained

5669
05:21:07,780 --> 05:21:09,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: under the reduced budget?

5670
05:21:09,760 --> 05:21:12,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi nakita ko, isa pang reduction

5671
05:21:12,000 --> 05:21:12,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yan eh.

5672
05:21:13,920 --> 05:21:16,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The FPA, yung proposed budget

5673
05:21:16,200 --> 05:21:17,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: falls by 36.5%.

5674
05:21:18,640 --> 05:21:19,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Malaki-laki siya for its

5675
05:21:19,840 --> 05:21:22,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: total budget. Yung MOE

5676
05:21:22,160 --> 05:21:23,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: niya declines by 30.4%.

5677
05:21:23,980 --> 05:21:25,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Capital outlay by

5678
05:21:25,980 --> 05:21:27,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 99.2%.

5679
05:21:27,400 --> 05:21:30,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Which reduction reflects

5680
05:21:30,240 --> 05:21:31,560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: what? Yung purchases,

5681
05:21:32,020 --> 05:21:34,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: inspection, lab testing,

5682
05:21:34,360 --> 05:21:34,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: enforcement?

5683
05:21:35,820 --> 05:21:38,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi medyo radical ang kanyang

5684
05:21:38,060 --> 05:21:38,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: deduction.

5685
05:21:39,460 --> 05:21:41,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In my opinion, Mr. Chair, medyo

5686
05:21:41,780 --> 05:21:44,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: a little bit of everything. All of the above.

5687
05:21:47,960 --> 05:21:49,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, what's the...

5688
05:21:49,460 --> 05:21:52,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: You requested some kind of funding

5689
05:21:52,100 --> 05:21:54,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: also, additional minimum funding

5690
05:21:54,120 --> 05:21:55,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: para sa fertilizer and pest.

5691
05:21:55,980 --> 05:22:00,040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: To meet the

5692
05:22:00,040 --> 05:22:01,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: proper

5693
05:22:01,480 --> 05:22:02,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: specifications.

5694
05:22:02,980 --> 05:22:04,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi maraming reklamo dyan, di ba po?

5695
05:22:04,940 --> 05:22:05,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

5696
05:22:07,320 --> 05:22:09,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, you don't think

5697
05:22:09,920 --> 05:22:11,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: that the budget cut

5698
05:22:11,740 --> 05:22:13,800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: upwards of 36%

5699
05:22:13,800 --> 05:22:15,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: will affect this issue?

5700
05:22:15,900 --> 05:22:17,800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I recall that you were requesting

5701
05:22:17,800 --> 05:22:19,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: almost 9 billion at the previous

5702
05:22:19,860 --> 05:22:21,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: hearing for pesticides,

5703
05:22:22,360 --> 05:22:23,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for fertilizer,

5704
05:22:23,180 --> 05:22:25,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for soil enrichment,

5705
05:22:25,980 --> 05:22:26,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and so on.

5706
05:22:27,860 --> 05:22:29,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa fertilizers,

5707
05:22:29,780 --> 05:22:31,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, we have an option

5708
05:22:31,900 --> 05:22:33,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: with the same amount of money.

5709
05:22:35,220 --> 05:22:36,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mag-convert kami

5710
05:22:36,220 --> 05:22:38,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to a different type of fertilizer,

5711
05:22:38,320 --> 05:22:39,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: soil ameliorants, which is cheaper.

5712
05:22:41,060 --> 05:22:42,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, but kulang pa rin

5713
05:22:42,220 --> 05:22:42,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng konti.

5714
05:22:42,960 --> 05:22:45,560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: But the soil ameliorant

5715
05:22:45,560 --> 05:22:48,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is not fertilizer po. It's a

5716
05:22:48,020 --> 05:22:49,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: different function entirely.

5717
05:22:49,920 --> 05:22:51,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya mas mura siya.

5718
05:22:51,380 --> 05:22:53,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tama ko kayo, Mr. Chair.

5719
05:22:53,120 --> 05:22:55,400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pero mayroon pang bio-fertilizer pa.

5720
05:22:55,980 --> 05:22:57,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Foiler, inorganic,

5721
05:22:58,020 --> 05:22:59,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: very liquid-based

5722
05:22:59,020 --> 05:23:02,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: urea or fertilizer.

5723
05:23:03,460 --> 05:23:03,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I see.

5724
05:23:04,180 --> 05:23:06,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I see. Okay. So, you're confident

5725
05:23:06,300 --> 05:23:08,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: this will not impact

5726
05:23:08,460 --> 05:23:10,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on the already

5727
05:23:10,100 --> 05:23:12,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: numerous complaints

5728
05:23:12,500 --> 05:23:14,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: of substandard inputs?

5729
05:23:14,860 --> 05:23:16,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, kulang pa rin talaga.

5730
05:23:17,120 --> 05:23:18,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That's why we are requesting

5731
05:23:18,640 --> 05:23:20,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for additional 8 billion

5732
05:23:20,280 --> 05:23:21,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dyan.

5733
05:23:22,220 --> 05:23:24,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Dahil tumaas kasi lahat talaga

5734
05:23:24,280 --> 05:23:24,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng presyo.

5735
05:23:25,980 --> 05:23:28,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mayroon ang pinakamalaking problema,

5736
05:23:28,160 --> 05:23:29,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tumaas ang presyo.

5737
05:23:29,420 --> 05:23:30,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Speaking of reductions,

5738
05:23:31,220 --> 05:23:33,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: pasensya, matagal-tagal kasi ang haba-haba

5739
05:23:33,380 --> 05:23:35,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng submission ninyo kasi 1 million

5740
05:23:35,640 --> 05:23:37,680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yata ang attached agencies ninyo.

5741
05:23:38,060 --> 05:23:39,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kawawa naman kayo.

5742
05:23:39,600 --> 05:23:41,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero ang dami kasing agency.

5743
05:23:41,880 --> 05:23:42,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung NMIS,

5744
05:23:43,480 --> 05:23:45,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: will the operating budget cut

5745
05:23:45,300 --> 05:23:47,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: weaken the meat safety inspection?

5746
05:23:47,760 --> 05:23:48,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi ito, malaki ito,

5747
05:23:48,980 --> 05:23:51,800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 78.5 ang reduction.

5748
05:23:52,380 --> 05:23:53,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Zero capital outlay.

5749
05:23:53,980 --> 05:23:55,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And then, the deducted allocation,

5750
05:23:55,940 --> 05:23:57,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is now transferred,

5751
05:23:57,620 --> 05:23:59,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: temporarily lodged under OSEC,

5752
05:24:00,460 --> 05:24:00,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: BAE,

5753
05:24:01,320 --> 05:24:03,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: as part of the Animal Competitiveness

5754
05:24:03,780 --> 05:24:04,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Enhancement Fund.

5755
05:24:05,140 --> 05:24:06,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tama ba yung pagbasa ko?

5756
05:24:06,400 --> 05:24:07,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tama ho yung pagbasa nyo.

5757
05:24:07,940 --> 05:24:09,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya nga ang request namin.

5758
05:24:09,320 --> 05:24:10,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Since hindi namin magagamit,

5759
05:24:10,780 --> 05:24:12,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, yung aming animal,

5760
05:24:13,540 --> 05:24:15,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung IDCA fund na 20 billion

5761
05:24:15,360 --> 05:24:17,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: because of all the prerequisites

5762
05:24:18,640 --> 05:24:19,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for us to be able to

5763
05:24:19,920 --> 05:24:21,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: access that fund.

5764
05:24:21,440 --> 05:24:23,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We are requesting na restructure

5765
05:24:23,140 --> 05:24:25,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung particular livestock

5766
05:24:25,940 --> 05:24:28,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: budget na yan and go and revert

5767
05:24:28,380 --> 05:24:30,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to the usual programs,

5768
05:24:30,360 --> 05:24:30,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

5769
05:24:32,920 --> 05:24:34,400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yun yung binanggit ninyo kanina?

5770
05:24:34,980 --> 05:24:36,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung livestock needs topping up?

5771
05:24:37,020 --> 05:24:37,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

5772
05:24:37,900 --> 05:24:38,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I see.

5773
05:24:38,860 --> 05:24:40,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At baka maganda dyan,

5774
05:24:42,420 --> 05:24:45,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung 24 billion na kailangan na

5775
05:24:45,800 --> 05:24:47,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nabibigay sana sa amin,

5776
05:24:47,720 --> 05:24:49,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang kailangan namin with that restructuring

5777
05:24:49,860 --> 05:24:50,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is 15 billion.

5778
05:24:51,540 --> 05:24:53,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So meron na meron magiging savings

5779
05:24:53,480 --> 05:24:53,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung

5780
05:24:53,940 --> 05:24:55,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na pwede,

5781
05:24:55,940 --> 05:24:58,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: luluwag yung fiscal space to put

5782
05:24:58,060 --> 05:24:59,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: funds somewhere else

5783
05:24:59,520 --> 05:25:02,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in the DA family to top up,

5784
05:25:02,340 --> 05:25:02,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

5785
05:25:03,040 --> 05:25:05,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I see. So, sumatotal, how much funding

5786
05:25:05,740 --> 05:25:07,860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is lodged under BAE for the

5787
05:25:07,860 --> 05:25:09,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: functions of NMIS?

5788
05:25:09,920 --> 05:25:11,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And how and when can NMIS

5789
05:25:11,900 --> 05:25:12,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: actually access

5790
05:25:12,960 --> 05:25:15,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the combined funding?

5791
05:25:15,260 --> 05:25:16,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Basically, Mr. Chair,

5792
05:25:16,660 --> 05:25:18,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to sustain the functions, di po ba?

5793
05:25:18,580 --> 05:25:20,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kailangan lang namin maibalik

5794
05:25:20,200 --> 05:25:23,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: more or less to last year's budget plus 10%.

5795
05:25:23,200 --> 05:25:24,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I see. Last year

5796
05:25:24,820 --> 05:25:25,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: plus 10%. This year?

5797
05:25:25,940 --> 05:25:27,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, budget pala. Ah, sorry.

5798
05:25:27,820 --> 05:25:29,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Additional 10%.

5799
05:25:29,320 --> 05:25:31,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And that will be under OSEC?

5800
05:25:31,820 --> 05:25:32,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: BAE? Ganon?

5801
05:25:32,620 --> 05:25:34,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I'm not too sure. BAE, ma'am.

5802
05:25:35,320 --> 05:25:37,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: NMIS, BAE, yung mga

5803
05:25:37,680 --> 05:25:39,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: same businesses.

5804
05:25:39,800 --> 05:25:42,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi ngayon, linipat sa DA, OSEC, BAE.

5805
05:25:42,440 --> 05:25:43,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Because of the IDCA.

5806
05:25:43,820 --> 05:25:46,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's right. So now, you are

5807
05:25:46,120 --> 05:25:47,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: going to move it to DA,

5808
05:25:48,260 --> 05:25:48,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: OSEC, NMIS.

5809
05:25:48,900 --> 05:25:50,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: To the different bureaus.

5810
05:25:50,520 --> 05:25:50,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes.

5811
05:25:52,620 --> 05:25:54,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Babalik lang siya sa 2026.

5812
05:25:55,280 --> 05:25:55,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Maybe you can,

5813
05:25:55,940 --> 05:25:58,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: give us a short summary para maintindihan

5814
05:25:58,140 --> 05:25:59,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: namin. Kasi kapag

5815
05:25:59,900 --> 05:26:01,800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: tinitignan, hindi mo

5816
05:26:01,800 --> 05:26:04,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: maintindihan masyado

5817
05:26:04,480 --> 05:26:05,680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kung reorganization

5818
05:26:05,680 --> 05:26:08,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: at kung may mali siya, mamaya sabihin

5819
05:26:08,180 --> 05:26:09,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: minamalverse.

5820
05:26:09,620 --> 05:26:12,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair, and maraming salamat

5821
05:26:12,000 --> 05:26:13,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ho, Madam Senator.

5822
05:26:14,580 --> 05:26:16,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kailangan namin niyo supportan

5823
05:26:16,120 --> 05:26:16,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ninyo. Thank you.

5824
05:26:17,840 --> 05:26:19,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just very quickly lang,

5825
05:26:19,900 --> 05:26:21,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sekiko, dun sa usapin ng

5826
05:26:21,960 --> 05:26:23,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung 20 billion,

5827
05:26:23,940 --> 05:26:25,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because you have 24 billion,

5828
05:26:25,940 --> 05:26:27,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: worth of

5829
05:26:27,380 --> 05:26:30,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: budget

5830
05:26:30,280 --> 05:26:31,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: additional funding.

5831
05:26:32,480 --> 05:26:33,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, please,

5832
05:26:34,740 --> 05:26:36,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ano yung priority

5833
05:26:36,460 --> 05:26:37,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nyo dun sa

5834
05:26:37,180 --> 05:26:39,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 24 billion na yun?

5835
05:26:40,220 --> 05:26:42,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi baka hindi natin ma-accommodate

5836
05:26:42,540 --> 05:26:44,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lahat. And then, ano yung palagay

5837
05:26:44,480 --> 05:26:46,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nyo galing dun sa

5838
05:26:46,140 --> 05:26:47,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: livestock? Yun ang pwede.

5839
05:26:47,940 --> 05:26:50,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You give us

5840
05:26:50,640 --> 05:26:52,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your wish list, di ba?

5841
05:26:52,540 --> 05:26:54,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, I just made

5842
05:26:54,260 --> 05:26:55,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the number 1 to 10.

5843
05:26:55,940 --> 05:26:57,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I don't know, based on priority, which will be submitted

5844
05:26:57,820 --> 05:26:59,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to you within the hour.

5845
05:26:59,420 --> 05:27:00,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

5846
05:27:02,040 --> 05:27:02,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, ma'am.

5847
05:27:03,440 --> 05:27:05,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Nasa livestock pa rin tayo, PCC.

5848
05:27:05,920 --> 05:27:07,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: How will dairy production expand

5849
05:27:07,820 --> 05:27:10,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: without funding for the herd build-up?

5850
05:27:11,900 --> 05:27:14,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, ganun din yung

5851
05:27:14,320 --> 05:27:16,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sagot namin dun.

5852
05:27:16,220 --> 05:27:17,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung IDCA fund na

5853
05:27:17,420 --> 05:27:18,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: babalik sa ano.

5854
05:27:19,920 --> 05:27:21,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Basically, we'll be submitting a new

5855
05:27:21,980 --> 05:27:23,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: request for the new

5856
05:27:23,880 --> 05:27:25,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: GAA of the livestock sector.

5857
05:27:25,940 --> 05:27:26,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Oh, I see.

5858
05:27:27,220 --> 05:27:29,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kung pwede, isama na rin tong tanong na to.

5859
05:27:29,680 --> 05:27:31,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi inaasahan nga, di ba,

5860
05:27:31,600 --> 05:27:33,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nabigyan na natin yung ibang farmers

5861
05:27:33,600 --> 05:27:35,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: over the past few years,

5862
05:27:35,500 --> 05:27:37,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nag-herd build-up na of some sort,

5863
05:27:37,380 --> 05:27:39,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and the schools are already relying

5864
05:27:39,660 --> 05:27:41,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on that supply of milk.

5865
05:27:41,560 --> 05:27:43,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, they were a little bit agitated

5866
05:27:43,600 --> 05:27:45,320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to discover that

5867
05:27:45,320 --> 05:27:48,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the proposed budget excludes

5868
05:27:48,200 --> 05:27:49,800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the 159 million

5869
05:27:49,800 --> 05:27:51,780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: requested for the 5th year

5870
05:27:51,780 --> 05:27:53,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na sana herd build-up.

5871
05:27:53,880 --> 05:27:55,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, gusto sana namin,

5872
05:27:55,940 --> 05:27:57,540
Senator Imee R. Marcos: maipaliwanag kung paano ba

5873
05:27:57,540 --> 05:27:58,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung mga eskwelahan na umaasad yan?

5874
05:27:58,920 --> 05:28:01,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We'll include it in our submission, Mr. Chair.

5875
05:28:01,280 --> 05:28:03,300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang buong livestock ko, bibigay namin yung

5876
05:28:03,300 --> 05:28:04,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: restructured

5877
05:28:04,520 --> 05:28:06,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: proposal

5878
05:28:06,460 --> 05:28:09,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: within na binigay

5879
05:28:09,860 --> 05:28:11,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa aming fiscal space. Thank you.

5880
05:28:15,880 --> 05:28:18,800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, kailan kaya ma-restructure yan?

5881
05:28:18,900 --> 05:28:20,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mahabol ba yan bago

5882
05:28:20,300 --> 05:28:20,820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: maipakailan?

5883
05:28:20,820 --> 05:28:23,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Actually, Mr. Chair, ready na kami lahat.

5884
05:28:24,180 --> 05:28:25,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We've submitted everything to

5885
05:28:25,940 --> 05:28:26,780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Congress, although

5886
05:28:26,780 --> 05:28:29,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it was, doon kami na late eh,

5887
05:28:29,380 --> 05:28:31,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but dito sa Senate, mukhang

5888
05:28:31,280 --> 05:28:32,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tama-tama pa rin yung oras.

5889
05:28:33,060 --> 05:28:35,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And the House of Representatives are aware,

5890
05:28:35,780 --> 05:28:37,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: DBM is aware, so

5891
05:28:37,280 --> 05:28:39,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tulong-tulong,

5892
05:28:39,720 --> 05:28:41,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pag tulong-tulongan na lang, Mr. Chair.

5893
05:28:42,120 --> 05:28:43,680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mabuti naman at tama o

5894
05:28:43,680 --> 05:28:45,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: optimize silang lahat, kasi nga

5895
05:28:45,440 --> 05:28:47,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa ngayon, sabog-sabog eh, kalat-kalat

5896
05:28:47,380 --> 05:28:49,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa iba't-ibang ahensya.

5897
05:28:49,560 --> 05:28:51,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And siguro yung huli na lamang, yung

5898
05:28:51,360 --> 05:28:53,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Philmec, why are the processing facilities

5899
05:28:53,880 --> 05:28:55,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: still lying idle?

5900
05:28:55,940 --> 05:28:57,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Right? Substantial funding.

5901
05:28:57,680 --> 05:29:01,480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Core reports, only a 9.29%

5902
05:29:01,480 --> 05:29:02,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: fund utilization

5903
05:29:02,360 --> 05:29:03,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for 2 billion

5904
05:29:03,660 --> 05:29:05,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: coconut shared processing.

5905
05:29:05,920 --> 05:29:08,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eto na naman yung mahiwaga, taon-taon na lang to.

5906
05:29:08,560 --> 05:29:09,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Covering 2023

5907
05:29:09,980 --> 05:29:12,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to 2025, only

5908
05:29:12,020 --> 05:29:13,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 5 of the projected

5909
05:29:13,840 --> 05:29:15,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 92 under 2025

5910
05:29:16,620 --> 05:29:18,100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: were actually established

5911
05:29:18,100 --> 05:29:18,940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and operating.

5912
05:29:19,860 --> 05:29:21,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: What were the equipment procurement,

5913
05:29:22,180 --> 05:29:23,900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: site preparation, construction,

5914
05:29:24,720 --> 05:29:25,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: beneficiary,

5915
05:29:25,940 --> 05:29:28,060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: readiness? What were the

5916
05:29:28,060 --> 05:29:30,000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: problems? Ba't hindi na-synchronize?

5917
05:29:30,420 --> 05:29:31,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi ang sama nito,

5918
05:29:32,060 --> 05:29:33,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 9% lang.

5919
05:29:33,860 --> 05:29:35,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, I'll ask

5920
05:29:35,840 --> 05:29:37,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Philmec Director Alvin Dia to

5921
05:29:37,920 --> 05:29:38,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: present.

5922
05:29:39,540 --> 05:29:41,540
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

5923
05:29:41,820 --> 05:29:43,940
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Madam Senator, as regard to the

5924
05:29:43,940 --> 05:29:45,740
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: shared processing facilities po

5925
05:29:45,740 --> 05:29:47,800
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: na in-implement ng

5926
05:29:47,800 --> 05:29:49,380
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Philmec, which is

5927
05:29:49,380 --> 05:29:51,800
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: yung provisions po

5928
05:29:51,800 --> 05:29:53,660
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: ng mga

5929
05:29:53,660 --> 05:29:55,480
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: post-harvest facilities.

5930
05:29:55,940 --> 05:29:58,080
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: So, just to give you

5931
05:29:58,080 --> 05:29:59,620
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: some background on this.

5932
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:12,600
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Noon po kasing 2022 to 2024, it was the DPWH who was implementing the erection ng warehouse.

5933
05:30:13,700 --> 05:30:20,380
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Then by that time, ang nagawa po nila in two years time was 29 facilities.

5934
05:30:20,380 --> 05:30:26,520
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: At ang nangyari doon sa 29 facilities, ang natapos po roon ay 16.

5935
05:30:26,520 --> 05:30:31,820
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: 11 yung 16 yung natapos, 11 yung hindi natapos.

5936
05:30:32,420 --> 05:30:36,920
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Pero sa 16 facilities po walang mga building permits.

5937
05:30:37,240 --> 05:30:40,000
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Kaya hindi po namin malagyan ng mga facilities.

5938
05:30:40,740 --> 05:30:49,260
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Ngayon po, ngayong 2025 onwards, inilipad na po sa Philmec yung construction ng building.

5939
05:30:49,520 --> 05:30:53,240
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Kaya meron na po tayong 39 ngayon na ongoing construction.

5940
05:30:53,240 --> 05:30:55,020
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: So yun po yung update.

5941
05:30:55,380 --> 05:30:56,420
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Pero kaya nga po.

5942
05:30:56,520 --> 05:31:00,960
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Hindi kami makabili ng mga facilities ng walang warehouses.

5943
05:31:01,160 --> 05:31:03,040
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Pero ina-update na po namin.

5944
05:31:03,740 --> 05:31:07,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So ilan ang functioning warehouses ngayon suma total?

5945
05:31:07,620 --> 05:31:10,720
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Actually, ang functioning warehouses po ngayon nasa 16.

5946
05:31:11,260 --> 05:31:11,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ha?

5947
05:31:11,680 --> 05:31:13,020
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: 16 warehouses po.

5948
05:31:13,760 --> 05:31:15,120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 16? Mas konti pa.

5949
05:31:15,440 --> 05:31:17,400
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Hindi po. Yung po yung natapos.

5950
05:31:17,560 --> 05:31:19,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Teka, 92 ang plano, di ba?

5951
05:31:20,080 --> 05:31:20,360
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Opo.

5952
05:31:20,840 --> 05:31:22,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tapos yung 16 lang ang nabuo.

5953
05:31:23,640 --> 05:31:26,520
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Yun po yung ginawa ng DPWH.

5954
05:31:26,720 --> 05:31:28,680
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: From 2022 hanggang 2024.

5955
05:31:28,680 --> 05:31:31,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Akala ko nung 2025, nakapagpatay yun na kayo ng marami.

5956
05:31:31,800 --> 05:31:34,320
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: 39 po yung ongoing natin ngayon na construction.

5957
05:31:34,320 --> 05:31:34,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ah, ongoing.

5958
05:31:35,100 --> 05:31:35,380
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Opo.

5959
05:31:35,900 --> 05:31:37,300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So wala pang tapos doon.

5960
05:31:38,160 --> 05:31:43,500
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Meron na po tayong inaugurate na isa doon sa ginawa ng Philmec.

5961
05:31:43,540 --> 05:31:47,040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi wala pang 10% yung fund utilization. Patay tayo dyan.

5962
05:31:47,320 --> 05:31:51,980
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Yes po. We are admitting that, Madam Chair.

5963
05:31:52,220 --> 05:31:56,360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So meron kayong catch-up plan dyan? Puro barn ba yan? O saan ba yan?

5964
05:31:56,360 --> 05:32:03,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Dati kasi barm ang pinag-uusapan. Eh ngayon, itong mga catch-up na to, saan saan yan?

5965
05:32:03,580 --> 05:32:10,320
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: We will provide you, Mr. Chair, the complete catch-up and location of these specific projects.

5966
05:32:10,760 --> 05:32:11,700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sige. Thank you.

5967
05:32:13,160 --> 05:32:14,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you.

5968
05:32:15,020 --> 05:32:16,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just a few more questions.

5969
05:32:17,480 --> 05:32:20,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dumating si Senator Aimee na alala ko tuloy.

5970
05:32:22,740 --> 05:32:26,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Doon sa issue nung seized Vietnam rights,

5971
05:32:26,360 --> 05:32:40,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we would like to clarify ano na ang status nitong dalawa yan actually, yung Limay-Bataan and Davao.

5972
05:32:40,460 --> 05:32:55,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And my understanding is the delivery dates based on the documentation were delayed both for Limay-Bataan and Davao.

5973
05:32:56,360 --> 05:33:00,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The SP6 specified a specific date that it should arrive.

5974
05:33:01,740 --> 05:33:07,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero lumampas na, both for Bataan and for Davao.

5975
05:33:07,940 --> 05:33:17,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And that's why, as I understand it, it was in violation of the permits.

5976
05:33:18,640 --> 05:33:24,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And therefore, kaya finlag at eventually, sumubok tumakas.

5977
05:33:24,360 --> 05:33:28,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: According to the BOC, at least that was the information relayed.

5978
05:33:29,740 --> 05:33:33,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At na-kumpis ka, na-intercept.

5979
05:33:34,940 --> 05:33:36,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that's question number one.

5980
05:33:36,760 --> 05:33:50,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Question number two, I mean update, is if the PPI was the consignee, how now do we proceed?

5981
05:33:50,740 --> 05:33:54,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sino sa PPI ang lumabag?

5982
05:33:54,360 --> 05:33:56,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: O pinilit? O sumunod? Meron ba?

5983
05:33:57,260 --> 05:34:00,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi iba yung sabi nga ninyo, na-delay.

5984
05:34:01,280 --> 05:34:03,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dapat yan July, pero September na.

5985
05:34:04,340 --> 05:34:10,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, are you, is there an internal investigation?

5986
05:34:11,460 --> 05:34:20,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In fairness to the Secretary, as you said publicly, you're the one who put a stop to the entry.

5987
05:34:20,180 --> 05:34:31,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And precisely because of these errors or non-compliance with the permits.

5988
05:34:33,200 --> 05:34:35,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And so how are we moving forward?

5989
05:34:35,960 --> 05:34:37,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito ang tinatanong din.

5990
05:34:40,140 --> 05:34:42,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I'm sure tatanongin ito sa plenary.

5991
05:34:43,980 --> 05:34:45,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, sir.

5992
05:34:45,020 --> 05:34:47,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

5993
05:34:48,160 --> 05:34:50,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa limay, umpisa ako sa limay.

5994
05:34:50,180 --> 05:34:57,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: As far as we are concerned, from my review with our Bureau of Plant, our DAIE,

5995
05:34:58,320 --> 05:35:01,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: wala silang nakikitang issue sa documents.

5996
05:35:02,380 --> 05:35:09,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sinasabing tampering, binanggit ng isang broadcaster, wala kaming nakita.

5997
05:35:11,300 --> 05:35:16,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron din sinasabi na yung must-depart date, hindi na meet.

5998
05:35:16,580 --> 05:35:19,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then the bill of lading issued by the shipping company,

5999
05:35:20,180 --> 05:35:22,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: was August 31.

6000
05:35:23,020 --> 05:35:28,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At yung must-depart date, mas load or mas anong date is September 1.

6001
05:35:28,760 --> 05:35:29,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, pasok din.

6002
05:35:30,380 --> 05:35:32,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, it's a BOC matter now.

6003
05:35:33,480 --> 05:35:41,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, in my opinion, it's BOC ngayon na mag-husga or mag-ahatol kung ano mangyayari sa shipment na ito.

6004
05:35:41,760 --> 05:35:47,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And this is a private company that imported the cargo.

6005
05:35:47,180 --> 05:35:50,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And walang kinalaman dito ang Department.

6006
05:35:50,180 --> 05:35:54,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And the agriculture, except for issuance of an SPSIC.

6007
05:35:55,560 --> 05:36:01,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: As far as the, ano naman, doon sa Davao, which I am being attacked.

6008
05:36:01,080 --> 05:36:03,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before lang, sorry, just before Davao.

6009
05:36:04,520 --> 05:36:09,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I remember this in 2011, subik din yung pagpasok ng bigas.

6010
05:36:10,120 --> 05:36:12,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Na dapat transshipment lang.

6011
05:36:13,180 --> 05:36:14,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun ang sinasabi.

6012
05:36:14,000 --> 05:36:17,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero, hindi nga transshipment.

6013
05:36:17,640 --> 05:36:20,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tsaka kung itatransship mo, ba't mo idadaan dito?

6014
05:36:20,180 --> 05:36:23,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, may mga ganong problema nun.

6015
05:36:24,060 --> 05:36:26,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya, parang nag-ano lang sa akin.

6016
05:36:26,760 --> 05:36:28,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is this a repeat?

6017
05:36:28,920 --> 05:36:33,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Iba yung dokumento ng BOC, iba yung dokumento ng DA.

6018
05:36:35,360 --> 05:36:44,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But, please allow us, submit some of the documents that you're mentioning about the entry.

6019
05:36:45,400 --> 05:36:49,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi, yun nga, ang concern natin dito is, again,

6020
05:36:50,180 --> 05:36:55,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: diba, medyo may concern doon sa documentation.

6021
05:36:55,640 --> 05:36:58,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At least, yun ang na-relay sa akin.

6022
05:36:58,660 --> 05:37:00,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But, go ahead, sir.

6023
05:37:01,360 --> 05:37:04,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Che, we will submit all the reports about that, Limay.

6024
05:37:04,960 --> 05:37:08,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: As far as the vessel Tyson 2 naman, ano sa Davao.

6025
05:37:09,440 --> 05:37:12,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ulitin ko lang, ako ho ang nagpa-cancel ng SPSIC.

6026
05:37:12,940 --> 05:37:14,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ako ang nagpahuli ng barko.

6027
05:37:15,560 --> 05:37:18,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ako rin ang isa sa nag-decide to cease the cargo.

6028
05:37:19,220 --> 05:37:20,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Para malaman talaga.

6029
05:37:20,180 --> 05:37:24,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang katotohanan, along with Commissioner Ariel Anipa-Moceno.

6030
05:37:24,720 --> 05:37:28,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, clearly, na nakikita sa social media, I am clearly under attack.

6031
05:37:28,840 --> 05:37:30,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For what reasons, I really don't know.

6032
05:37:31,160 --> 05:37:34,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But, I can only smell the hands of smugglers.

6033
05:37:35,020 --> 05:37:41,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Na tinira namin dati at nasa order of battle namin dito sa DA.

6034
05:37:42,500 --> 05:37:48,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At marami akong pinakancel na kumpanya nung particular smuggling group na to.

6035
05:37:48,140 --> 05:37:50,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, I will even name the names.

6036
05:37:50,180 --> 05:37:55,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: The name, not the name, but the so-called AKA of this group.

6037
05:37:55,760 --> 05:37:57,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's a, tawag sa kanya, JOSOL group.

6038
05:37:58,660 --> 05:38:03,520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung specific person na yan, I really do not know who they are.

6039
05:38:03,780 --> 05:38:06,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But, yan ang intel na nakukuha namin.

6040
05:38:07,040 --> 05:38:14,480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, basically, malinaw sa akin that I must be doing something right to get this flak.

6041
05:38:14,800 --> 05:38:17,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And, twist, tinitwist pa yung katotohanan.

6042
05:38:17,680 --> 05:38:20,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And, totoo lang, boss, sir.

6043
05:38:20,180 --> 05:38:22,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Senator, may resibo ako.

6044
05:38:23,860 --> 05:38:31,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Andito lahat ng text ko to instruct BPI, instruct the Bureau of Fisheries, instruct DAIE.

6045
05:38:32,480 --> 05:38:34,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In all the details here, makikita nyo.

6046
05:38:35,400 --> 05:38:39,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ito, cancel this SPSIC ASAP, September 9.

6047
05:38:40,220 --> 05:38:43,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kakaalis pa lang ng vessel sa Vietnam on September 8.

6048
05:38:43,620 --> 05:38:48,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sinabi ng tao, sinabi sa akin, may nagtanong sa social media,

6049
05:38:48,800 --> 05:38:49,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Bakit?

6050
05:38:50,180 --> 05:38:52,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nasa India ako noon.

6051
05:38:53,680 --> 05:38:57,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And, nag-react lang ako based on a tip from industry players mismo.

6052
05:38:58,660 --> 05:39:03,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: On September 18, meron akong text din dito,

6053
05:39:04,680 --> 05:39:06,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: which tinatrack namin yung vessel.

6054
05:39:06,640 --> 05:39:08,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tinatrack namin daily, sinasamalis yan eh.

6055
05:39:10,180 --> 05:39:12,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sabi ko kay Ethos to,

6056
05:39:12,760 --> 05:39:16,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Bantayan, please tell Ethos and send DAA, wag i-allow.

6057
05:39:16,860 --> 05:39:18,320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Wag i-allow i-unload.

6058
05:39:18,460 --> 05:39:20,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I heard they are planning to smuggle it.

6059
05:39:20,180 --> 05:39:23,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But, of course, I heard lang.

6060
05:39:23,180 --> 05:39:24,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I'm not sure if they are planning or not.

6061
05:39:25,620 --> 05:39:28,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Maraming kinausap dito, including Bureau of Customs.

6062
05:39:29,100 --> 05:39:33,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But, ang information ko, Bureau of Customs refused to dance.

6063
05:39:34,580 --> 05:39:40,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, meaning, yung ating customs ay tinindigan na hindi sila papayag sa mga ganyan.

6064
05:39:41,740 --> 05:39:43,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Andito ho, recibo ho yan.

6065
05:39:44,080 --> 05:39:49,080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then, meron pa ako ditong text, September 19 naman.

6066
05:39:50,180 --> 05:39:51,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: To BIFAR Director.

6067
05:39:52,700 --> 05:39:56,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Please send BIFAR boat on this vessel to see if nag-unload.

6068
05:39:57,060 --> 05:40:00,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then, on the same day, September 19,

6069
05:40:01,440 --> 05:40:04,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang instruction ko na kay Director Salilig at USEC Truce,

6070
05:40:05,200 --> 05:40:08,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hulihin na ang vessel Tyson 2 at dalhin sa General Santos Fishport.

6071
05:40:09,380 --> 05:40:11,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Bigas laman nito na cancelled SPSIC.

6072
05:40:12,320 --> 05:40:17,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Hulihin na and makita naman natin kung puno pa or hindi na.

6073
05:40:17,280 --> 05:40:19,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasi alam natin ang load nito.

6074
05:40:19,140 --> 05:40:20,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, tapos,

6075
05:40:20,180 --> 05:40:24,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sumagot si USEC Bayate sa akin na after a few minutes,

6076
05:40:24,320 --> 05:40:28,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 10.36 to 11.20 AM,

6077
05:40:29,160 --> 05:40:37,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: SEC apprehended na ng Navy ang vessel according to OIC BIFAR Director 12.

6078
05:40:37,680 --> 05:40:38,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then, I have the pictures.

6079
05:40:39,720 --> 05:40:40,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tinanong ko na saan na.

6080
05:40:41,420 --> 05:40:49,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I even sent a boat from my family's operations in General Santos to look for the vessel.

6081
05:40:49,020 --> 05:40:50,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And take pictures.

6082
05:40:50,180 --> 05:40:52,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Talagang hinanap namin.

6083
05:40:52,180 --> 05:40:54,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, kumpleto ho yan.

6084
05:40:54,180 --> 05:40:57,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, kung ano man ang iniisip ng mga tao about,

6085
05:40:57,180 --> 05:41:00,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: o yung mga tira sa akin,

6086
05:41:00,180 --> 05:41:02,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung totoong, it's all lies.

6087
05:41:02,180 --> 05:41:05,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's all fake news.

6088
05:41:05,180 --> 05:41:08,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Twisted to hit me and want to get me out of this.

6089
05:41:08,180 --> 05:41:13,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I will be submitting this to your office, Mr. Chair. May kopya kami ngayon.

6090
05:41:14,180 --> 05:41:18,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For your review and siguro sa review ng ibang kasamahan natin dito.

6091
05:41:18,200 --> 05:41:20,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I just wanted to explain to clear the air, Mr. Chair.

6092
05:41:21,180 --> 05:41:22,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, huling hirit na lang.

6093
05:41:22,180 --> 05:41:27,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi nung una, sinabi yata ng BPI na i-o-auction.

6094
05:41:27,180 --> 05:41:30,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero sabi ni Secretary, ito sa media lang.

6095
05:41:30,180 --> 05:41:35,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang pagkabalita, sabi sa diaryo na sabi ni Secretary,

6096
05:41:35,180 --> 05:41:38,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: huwag nang i-auction at baka mabalik lang sa mga smuggler.

6097
05:41:38,180 --> 05:41:41,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I-donate na lamang. Tama ba ito?

6098
05:41:41,180 --> 05:41:45,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung cease-trize sa DSWD para makatulong sa mga pamilya.

6099
05:41:45,180 --> 05:41:46,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

6100
05:41:46,180 --> 05:41:49,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang nag-suggest yata through media, no?

6101
05:41:49,180 --> 05:41:51,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I'm not sure kung talagang sinabi nila.

6102
05:41:51,180 --> 05:41:57,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nakita ko lang sa media na sinasabi na BOC wants to auction it.

6103
05:41:57,180 --> 05:41:58,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tama.

6104
05:41:58,180 --> 05:42:02,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang sagot ko naman kay Mr. Ted Filon is ayoko i-auction.

6105
05:42:02,180 --> 05:42:06,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's either distractions, go back to sender,

6106
05:42:06,180 --> 05:42:10,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or ibigay sa DSWD para pamigay sa taong bayan ng libre.

6107
05:42:10,180 --> 05:42:13,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So ano na ang latest na nangyari?

6108
05:42:13,180 --> 05:42:15,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano na ang latest update sa bigas mismo?

6109
05:42:15,180 --> 05:42:18,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In our opinion kasi, ngayon kasi tinitignan namin mabuti yung mga files.

6110
05:42:18,180 --> 05:42:25,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May latest report ako, nandun din yata sa report na bibigay ko sa inyo.

6111
05:42:25,180 --> 05:42:31,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya ako pinahuli yan is umalis yung vessel nung September 18 sa Gensan.

6112
05:42:31,180 --> 05:42:33,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Akala ko tatakbo.

6113
05:42:33,180 --> 05:42:42,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then now, there is a document now that shows a report from the vessel owner to the vessel agent

6114
05:42:42,180 --> 05:42:46,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that says that at 8.30 am on September 18,

6115
05:42:46,180 --> 05:42:52,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the postcard vessel instructed na pumunta ang vessel to Gensan.

6116
05:42:52,180 --> 05:42:54,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Andito rin iyon.

6117
05:42:54,180 --> 05:42:56,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's an email.

6118
05:42:56,180 --> 05:42:58,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So ito we will supply to you.

6119
05:42:58,180 --> 05:42:59,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pakibigay na rin.

6120
05:42:59,180 --> 05:43:02,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So ibig sabihin, medyo may good faith sila.

6121
05:43:02,180 --> 05:43:04,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasi natatrack naman yung vessel eh.

6122
05:43:04,180 --> 05:43:06,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's an international tracking eh.

6123
05:43:06,180 --> 05:43:08,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tapos meron naman nagpapuntang Gensan.

6124
05:43:08,180 --> 05:43:10,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May humuli sa Gensan.

6125
05:43:10,180 --> 05:43:12,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But it doesn't mean na may foul play.

6126
05:43:12,180 --> 05:43:15,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung yung cargo as declared in the SPIC is the same,

6127
05:43:15,180 --> 05:43:17,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it means walang kalokohan eh.

6128
05:43:17,180 --> 05:43:20,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So maybe there is grounds for good faith.

6129
05:43:20,180 --> 05:43:22,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But in case may kalokohan ngayon,

6130
05:43:22,180 --> 05:43:27,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang pinakamaganda i-seize yan at i-distribute sa taong bayan.

6131
05:43:27,180 --> 05:43:32,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Siguro the question is, bakit PPI ang consignee?

6132
05:43:32,180 --> 05:43:35,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So yun yung...

6133
05:43:35,180 --> 05:43:39,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang masagot ko naman, Mr. Chair, dyan is

6134
05:43:39,180 --> 05:43:43,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: from my investigation, although PPI is independent,

6135
05:43:43,180 --> 05:43:46,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I do not run PPI on a day-to-day basis,

6136
05:43:46,180 --> 05:43:50,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nor do I make pakialam in their operations

6137
05:43:50,180 --> 05:43:53,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: because I'm just an ex-officio nga.

6138
05:43:53,180 --> 05:43:56,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But of course, nag-inimbestigahan ko rin sila.

6139
05:43:56,180 --> 05:43:59,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Imagine, ako na nga yung ex-officio ng PPI.

6140
05:43:59,180 --> 05:44:01,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Alam ko na PPI yan.

6141
05:44:01,180 --> 05:44:04,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Alam ko PPI din yung consignee.

6142
05:44:04,180 --> 05:44:06,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ako pa rin ang pahinto.

6143
05:44:06,180 --> 05:44:10,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, is doing a good thing bad? It is not.

6144
05:44:10,180 --> 05:44:12,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I did the right thing. Diba?

6145
05:44:13,180 --> 05:44:17,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Because PPI, under explanation of PPI,

6146
05:44:17,180 --> 05:44:20,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that is a cancelled contract already.

6147
05:44:20,180 --> 05:44:27,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Because that shipment should have left Vietnam by July 31.

6148
05:44:27,180 --> 05:44:30,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But hindi nga naka-no. So it was never consummated.

6149
05:44:30,180 --> 05:44:34,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nor a single centavo was paid for the shipment.

6150
05:44:34,180 --> 05:44:37,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So it is not...

6151
05:44:37,180 --> 05:44:41,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Although it had a valid SPSIC, which I had cancelled.

6152
05:44:41,180 --> 05:44:45,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tingin ko yung shipper, for whatever reason,

6153
05:44:45,180 --> 05:44:50,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but the shipper naman kasi is a very big international conglomerate eh.

6154
05:44:50,180 --> 05:44:56,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's very big. Parang blue chip company yan.

6155
05:44:56,180 --> 05:44:58,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Hindi naman gagawa ng kalokohan eh.

6156
05:44:58,180 --> 05:44:58,920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So...

6157
05:44:59,640 --> 05:45:01,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Maybe it was a mistake

6158
05:45:01,620 --> 05:45:02,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na may valid SPSI.

6159
05:45:03,080 --> 05:45:04,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: She nipped out pa rin nila.

6160
05:45:05,840 --> 05:45:07,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But as far as the cargo is concerned,

6161
05:45:08,200 --> 05:45:09,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: from my investigation,

6162
05:45:09,540 --> 05:45:10,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: PPI doesn't own the cargo.

6163
05:45:12,020 --> 05:45:13,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pwede naman may loko-loko

6164
05:45:13,800 --> 05:45:15,540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa isang bansa na padalahan ako

6165
05:45:15,540 --> 05:45:16,340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng cargo dito.

6166
05:45:16,460 --> 05:45:19,120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Lagay pangalan hon ninyo.

6167
05:45:20,320 --> 05:45:21,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pero...

6168
05:45:21,000 --> 05:45:23,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In other words, you're looking at

6169
05:45:23,020 --> 05:45:25,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a smuggler who decided

6170
05:45:25,480 --> 05:45:27,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to use PPI as cover

6171
05:45:27,320 --> 05:45:29,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to bring in the

6172
05:45:29,260 --> 05:45:31,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: PPI. Kasi naka-sako na

6173
05:45:31,280 --> 05:45:33,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PPI. Kasi oo, yung consignee

6174
05:45:33,660 --> 05:45:35,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: maliwanag po na PPI. Consignee is

6175
05:45:35,240 --> 05:45:37,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: PPI and it was packed in PPI

6176
05:45:37,600 --> 05:45:38,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sacks.

6177
05:45:38,880 --> 05:45:41,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, yun.

6178
05:45:41,480 --> 05:45:43,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, I hope you

6179
05:45:43,200 --> 05:45:44,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: identify

6180
05:45:44,740 --> 05:45:46,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if any,

6181
05:45:46,380 --> 05:45:48,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sino ang

6182
05:45:48,620 --> 05:45:51,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pumayag sa PPI kung mayroon man

6183
05:45:51,300 --> 05:45:53,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na makipag-usap

6184
05:45:54,680 --> 05:45:55,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dito at

6185
05:45:55,420 --> 05:45:57,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nakumbinsi ito. I don't know.

6186
05:45:57,480 --> 05:45:58,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I don't know.

6187
05:45:58,840 --> 05:45:59,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But

6188
05:45:59,060 --> 05:46:02,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yun ang concern natin dito.

6189
05:46:02,800 --> 05:46:03,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi in the end,

6190
05:46:04,720 --> 05:46:07,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the value is about

6191
05:46:07,860 --> 05:46:09,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 400 million dollars.

6192
05:46:09,560 --> 05:46:10,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 400 million pesos.

6193
05:46:11,220 --> 05:46:12,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sorry. About

6194
05:46:12,620 --> 05:46:15,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: $460

6195
05:46:15,640 --> 05:46:17,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: per metric ton or something like that.

6196
05:46:18,900 --> 05:46:19,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair,

6197
05:46:20,700 --> 05:46:21,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I believe

6198
05:46:21,560 --> 05:46:23,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the DA and myself,

6199
05:46:23,460 --> 05:46:25,740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: including the ones involved

6200
05:46:25,740 --> 05:46:28,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in DA, are willing to go to be subject

6201
05:46:28,000 --> 05:46:28,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to

6202
05:46:29,060 --> 05:46:29,860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: an inquiry

6203
05:46:29,860 --> 05:46:32,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: by your choice,

6204
05:46:32,740 --> 05:46:34,380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the Senate's choice or whoever.

6205
05:46:35,900 --> 05:46:37,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Isama na nyo yung PPI

6206
05:46:37,220 --> 05:46:39,100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: para ma-final matapos na to

6207
05:46:39,100 --> 05:46:41,020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at mahusgahan na kung kami may kasalanan,

6208
05:46:41,080 --> 05:46:42,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may kasalanan kami. Kung wala kami kasalanan,

6209
05:46:43,080 --> 05:46:45,160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: masabi na para matama at matigil na to.

6210
05:46:45,840 --> 05:46:46,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Dahil

6211
05:46:46,240 --> 05:46:49,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as far as I'm concerned, we did the right

6212
05:46:49,200 --> 05:46:50,220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: thing and

6213
05:46:50,220 --> 05:46:52,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung ganito ang treatment sa akin

6214
05:46:52,900 --> 05:46:54,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at tira sa akin for doing the right thing,

6215
05:46:55,800 --> 05:46:56,940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: well, ganun talaga ang buhay.

6216
05:46:56,940 --> 05:46:57,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then,

6217
05:46:59,060 --> 05:47:02,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lalaban-lalaban kami

6218
05:47:02,040 --> 05:47:03,240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung anong tama, Mr. Chair.

6219
05:47:03,820 --> 05:47:05,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sir Kiko, I

6220
05:47:05,240 --> 05:47:07,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: understand you fully. I went through

6221
05:47:07,940 --> 05:47:09,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a similar experience.

6222
05:47:10,160 --> 05:47:11,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I was, my

6223
05:47:11,300 --> 05:47:14,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: NFA administrator was set up

6224
05:47:14,040 --> 05:47:16,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and was

6225
05:47:16,340 --> 05:47:17,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: fired. Oh no, and resigned.

6226
05:47:18,620 --> 05:47:19,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: He was accused of extortion.

6227
05:47:21,180 --> 05:47:22,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And he was a

6228
05:47:22,060 --> 05:47:23,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: retired PMA

6229
05:47:23,160 --> 05:47:28,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: graduate,

6230
05:47:28,200 --> 05:47:29,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: class of,

6231
05:47:30,720 --> 05:47:32,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I forget now which class,

6232
05:47:33,100 --> 05:47:34,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 68, 69.

6233
05:47:37,760 --> 05:47:40,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Traders accused him of extortion.

6234
05:47:41,440 --> 05:47:42,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I heard

6235
05:47:42,100 --> 05:47:43,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the voice,

6236
05:47:44,880 --> 05:47:46,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: supposedly his voice.

6237
05:47:47,600 --> 05:47:48,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: His English

6238
05:47:48,460 --> 05:47:50,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is impeccable and the voice

6239
05:47:50,140 --> 05:47:52,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that I heard was someone

6240
05:47:52,040 --> 05:47:54,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: who was not him.

6241
05:47:55,280 --> 05:47:55,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But

6242
05:47:55,620 --> 05:47:57,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I asked him to stay on.

6243
05:47:57,820 --> 05:47:58,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I said,

6244
05:47:58,200 --> 05:48:00,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I'm going to back you up all the way.

6245
05:48:00,740 --> 05:48:02,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I submitted a letter of resignation

6246
05:48:02,640 --> 05:48:03,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to President Aquino.

6247
05:48:04,900 --> 05:48:06,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I told President Aquino,

6248
05:48:07,100 --> 05:48:08,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I am resigning,

6249
05:48:08,720 --> 05:48:09,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I'm submitting my

6250
05:48:09,760 --> 05:48:12,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: resignation letter because

6251
05:48:12,260 --> 05:48:14,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I will defend my

6252
05:48:14,080 --> 05:48:16,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: NFA administrator. And I don't

6253
05:48:16,280 --> 05:48:18,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: want you to think, sir, that I'm defending him

6254
05:48:18,360 --> 05:48:20,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because I'm interested in the position.

6255
05:48:21,700 --> 05:48:21,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

6256
05:48:22,380 --> 05:48:23,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but unfortunately,

6257
05:48:24,120 --> 05:48:25,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because of the

6258
05:48:25,780 --> 05:48:27,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: setup,

6259
05:48:28,200 --> 05:48:30,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: he resigned. He said,

6260
05:48:30,100 --> 05:48:31,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I don't need this.

6261
05:48:32,240 --> 05:48:33,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

6262
05:48:33,520 --> 05:48:36,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and some of the old hands in NFA

6263
05:48:36,780 --> 05:48:38,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and some of the old hands in the

6264
05:48:39,080 --> 05:48:40,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the DA know this.

6265
05:48:42,780 --> 05:48:43,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: He was,

6266
05:48:44,380 --> 05:48:45,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: he didn't.

6267
05:48:45,660 --> 05:48:46,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

6268
05:48:47,200 --> 05:48:48,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what you're going through,

6269
05:48:48,640 --> 05:48:49,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I went through.

6270
05:48:50,420 --> 05:48:51,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And for what?

6271
05:48:51,460 --> 05:48:53,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because we were going after smugglers

6272
05:48:53,840 --> 05:48:57,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and traders who were

6273
05:48:58,200 --> 05:49:00,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: messing up our rice supply.

6274
05:49:00,700 --> 05:49:01,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We went after them.

6275
05:49:02,560 --> 05:49:04,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, I can understand where you're coming from.

6276
05:49:04,840 --> 05:49:05,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But, of course,

6277
05:49:06,140 --> 05:49:08,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as you said, if there's going to be

6278
05:49:08,720 --> 05:49:10,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: an investigation, we'd like to get the side of

6279
05:49:10,680 --> 05:49:11,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: PPI,

6280
05:49:12,100 --> 05:49:14,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: PPI, yeah, planters products

6281
05:49:14,980 --> 05:49:16,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that they can

6282
05:49:16,920 --> 05:49:17,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: clarify this.

6283
05:49:18,200 --> 05:49:20,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just like to reiterate my

6284
05:49:20,740 --> 05:49:21,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: request.

6285
05:49:21,380 --> 05:49:22,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kanina sumagot si

6286
05:49:22,280 --> 05:49:25,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Secretary Kiko na tutulungan tayo kunin

6287
05:49:25,620 --> 05:49:27,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung 10-year record

6288
05:49:27,520 --> 05:49:28,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na,

6289
05:49:28,200 --> 05:49:30,760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng rice importations ng PPI.

6290
05:49:30,760 --> 05:49:35,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Alam ko na pinaninindigan nila na private corporations sila.

6291
05:49:35,240 --> 05:49:37,280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At hirap na hirap ako kumuha ng papeles

6292
05:49:37,280 --> 05:49:39,560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kinanay dati kay RAM.

6293
05:49:39,560 --> 05:49:40,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya patulong na lang po.

6294
05:49:41,860 --> 05:49:42,460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, ma'am.

6295
05:49:42,460 --> 05:49:44,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, kami mismo,

6296
05:49:44,440 --> 05:49:47,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we have the records sa BPI, Bureau of Plants.

6297
05:49:47,260 --> 05:49:48,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, we bigay naman sa inyo.

6298
05:49:48,280 --> 05:49:50,140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And from what I understand, they only started

6299
05:49:50,140 --> 05:49:51,800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: importation two years ago, Mr. Chair.

6300
05:49:52,940 --> 05:49:53,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That seems clear.

6301
05:49:55,100 --> 05:49:55,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

6302
05:49:56,720 --> 05:49:57,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sige.

6303
05:49:57,280 --> 05:49:58,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you for the

6304
05:49:58,200 --> 05:50:00,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: clarification. And we have received

6305
05:50:00,200 --> 05:50:02,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the documents

6306
05:50:02,860 --> 05:50:05,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that you were pointing to earlier.

6307
05:50:07,960 --> 05:50:08,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just one,

6308
05:50:08,960 --> 05:50:10,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: maybe one last question

6309
05:50:10,940 --> 05:50:11,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on my end.

6310
05:50:14,700 --> 05:50:16,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Would you have the data on

6311
05:50:16,500 --> 05:50:17,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers' incomes?

6312
05:50:18,280 --> 05:50:20,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What is the income

6313
05:50:20,800 --> 05:50:21,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the farmer

6314
05:50:21,580 --> 05:50:22,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: today?

6315
05:50:24,500 --> 05:50:26,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: On average, across the board?

6316
05:50:27,160 --> 05:50:27,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I recall,

6317
05:50:28,200 --> 05:50:30,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at some point, it was about ₱14,000.

6318
05:50:33,320 --> 05:50:34,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ₱11,000?

6319
05:50:34,280 --> 05:50:37,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: A month?

6320
05:50:37,960 --> 05:50:38,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

6321
05:50:38,960 --> 05:50:40,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: A month?

6322
05:50:40,460 --> 05:50:44,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah, ₱14,000 a month across the board.

6323
05:50:44,360 --> 05:50:45,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What is it now?

6324
05:50:45,260 --> 05:50:48,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Unfortunately, we don't have the data as of now.

6325
05:50:48,760 --> 05:50:49,760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But we...

6326
05:50:51,500 --> 05:50:53,420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sandali, baka meron pala.

6327
05:50:58,200 --> 05:51:01,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I think something of this...

6328
05:51:01,280 --> 05:51:06,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: According to the data ng PIDs at saka ng PSA,

6329
05:51:06,580 --> 05:51:08,920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: somewhere between 13 and 15 pa rin eh.

6330
05:51:09,740 --> 05:51:12,660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Although, may sinasabi sa World Bank,

6331
05:51:12,820 --> 05:51:13,680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: mabasa ko yun eh.

6332
05:51:13,820 --> 05:51:17,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Maski sa PRDP, dun sa report nila,

6333
05:51:17,620 --> 05:51:20,580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: that there's been a boosting of real income

6334
05:51:20,580 --> 05:51:22,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: by 20 to 26 percent.

6335
05:51:23,100 --> 05:51:24,420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero dun sa PIDs,

6336
05:51:24,420 --> 05:51:25,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ganun pa rin eh, yung 14.

6337
05:51:26,240 --> 05:51:27,960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 14, 6, 5, 6.

6338
05:51:28,200 --> 05:51:30,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 14, 6, 5, 6.

6339
05:51:30,880 --> 05:51:35,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 14, 605 a month.

6340
05:51:36,700 --> 05:51:38,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And this is...

6341
05:51:38,200 --> 05:51:39,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of course, it varies, no?

6342
05:51:39,760 --> 05:51:41,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Depending on the subsector.

6343
05:51:41,800 --> 05:51:43,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mas mababa ata sa coconut,

6344
05:51:43,640 --> 05:51:44,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mas mataas ang rice,

6345
05:51:45,640 --> 05:51:49,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pinakamataas ata ang high value crops.

6346
05:51:51,040 --> 05:51:52,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But anyway...

6347
05:51:52,880 --> 05:51:54,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bakit dun sa PRDP mas mataas?

6348
05:51:54,620 --> 05:51:56,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mas mataas.

6349
05:51:56,380 --> 05:51:57,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

6350
05:51:58,200 --> 05:51:59,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

6351
05:51:59,880 --> 05:52:02,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I think dapat pag-aralan ng DA, no?

6352
05:52:04,520 --> 05:52:07,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because in other countries,

6353
05:52:07,400 --> 05:52:07,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they have a...

6354
05:52:08,600 --> 05:52:09,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's a benchmark eh.

6355
05:52:10,280 --> 05:52:11,060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair?

6356
05:52:11,120 --> 05:52:11,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, sir.

6357
05:52:11,400 --> 05:52:12,580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We have the data pala.

6358
05:52:14,100 --> 05:52:17,600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: There's a 6.5 percent average yearly increase

6359
05:52:17,600 --> 05:52:19,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in the daily wages of agricultural workers

6360
05:52:19,900 --> 05:52:21,440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: from 2020 to 2024.

6361
05:52:22,260 --> 05:52:24,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But ang average daily basic pay

6362
05:52:24,820 --> 05:52:27,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is 387.90 pesos.

6363
05:52:27,260 --> 05:52:27,880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So for around...

6364
05:52:27,880 --> 05:52:31,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 11,300 plus lang yun eh.

6365
05:52:31,860 --> 05:52:33,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For fishing and aquaculture,

6366
05:52:33,700 --> 05:52:34,700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mas mataas ng konti.

6367
05:52:34,820 --> 05:52:37,260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 412.27.

6368
05:52:37,540 --> 05:52:38,900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So almost 12,000.

6369
05:52:39,560 --> 05:52:39,680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yun.

6370
05:52:40,960 --> 05:52:43,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: As of April 2026.

6371
05:52:43,520 --> 05:52:45,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, I think,

6372
05:52:46,120 --> 05:52:49,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi naman ang DepDev,

6373
05:52:49,600 --> 05:52:51,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you need around 13,000, di ba?

6374
05:52:52,280 --> 05:52:52,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

6375
05:52:52,580 --> 05:52:55,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: As a minimum.

6376
05:52:55,840 --> 05:52:56,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Minimum.

6377
05:52:56,200 --> 05:52:56,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 13?

6378
05:52:56,760 --> 05:52:57,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang baba lang.

6379
05:52:57,600 --> 05:52:59,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 13,000 a month as minimum

6380
05:52:59,500 --> 05:53:01,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in terms of the ability to

6381
05:53:01,920 --> 05:53:05,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: afford the most basic needs, no?

6382
05:53:05,340 --> 05:53:05,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yeah.

6383
05:53:06,160 --> 05:53:07,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It used to be, what?

6384
05:53:08,220 --> 05:53:10,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

6385
05:53:10,660 --> 05:53:11,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

6386
05:53:11,420 --> 05:53:13,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mas ng konti, pero mababa pa rin.

6387
05:53:13,480 --> 05:53:14,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

6388
05:53:14,720 --> 05:53:16,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

6389
05:53:17,020 --> 05:53:17,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Which is to say,

6390
05:53:18,240 --> 05:53:19,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that the farmers are still,

6391
05:53:20,320 --> 05:53:21,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know, are still...

6392
05:53:21,580 --> 05:53:23,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, the data shows it, no?

6393
05:53:23,120 --> 05:53:25,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 27 percent poverty levels

6394
05:53:25,280 --> 05:53:27,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the agriculture.

6395
05:53:27,600 --> 05:53:29,280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, that's why

6396
05:53:29,280 --> 05:53:31,980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the poverty incidence is still 27 percent.

6397
05:53:32,680 --> 05:53:35,660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pero ang differential lang ngayon

6398
05:53:35,660 --> 05:53:36,180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and before,

6399
05:53:36,400 --> 05:53:37,840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: even with PSA accounts,

6400
05:53:37,980 --> 05:53:38,820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mas maraming ngayon

6401
05:53:38,820 --> 05:53:40,500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: farm workers

6402
05:53:40,500 --> 05:53:42,000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and fisher folks.

6403
05:53:42,180 --> 05:53:42,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you.

6404
05:53:42,360 --> 05:53:42,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

6405
05:53:43,120 --> 05:53:45,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, so that's important

6406
05:53:45,280 --> 05:53:46,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because in the end,

6407
05:53:47,360 --> 05:53:48,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I think all interventions

6408
05:53:48,480 --> 05:53:51,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: should have

6409
05:53:51,560 --> 05:53:54,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a clear-cut benchmark

6410
05:53:54,040 --> 05:53:55,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of what are we working on, di ba?

6411
05:53:56,040 --> 05:53:56,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sabi ko nga,

6412
05:53:56,560 --> 05:53:57,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: anong sa'y sayon,

6413
05:53:57,600 --> 05:54:01,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: anong 200 plus billion na budget ng agri

6414
05:54:01,360 --> 05:54:02,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kung year-on-year,

6415
05:54:02,840 --> 05:54:03,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di naman,

6416
05:54:03,960 --> 05:54:06,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mahirap pa rin ng farmer.

6417
05:54:06,700 --> 05:54:08,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I said this with NIA,

6418
05:54:10,200 --> 05:54:11,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi ko sa budget hearing ng NIA,

6419
05:54:12,100 --> 05:54:13,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dapat lahat tayo,

6420
05:54:13,820 --> 05:54:15,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: e tinututukan natin

6421
05:54:15,100 --> 05:54:16,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na kumikita ang farmer.

6422
05:54:16,920 --> 05:54:19,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dahil pagka wala ng farmer,

6423
05:54:19,940 --> 05:54:21,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: wala na rin tayong lahat trabaho rito

6424
05:54:21,540 --> 05:54:22,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa DA.

6425
05:54:23,620 --> 05:54:23,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

6426
05:54:24,820 --> 05:54:25,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kung baga,

6427
05:54:25,440 --> 05:54:27,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pag-ising natin sa umaga,

6428
05:54:27,300 --> 05:54:28,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pag-tulog natin sa gabi,

6429
05:54:29,280 --> 05:54:30,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: e dapat farmers,

6430
05:54:30,900 --> 05:54:31,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers,

6431
05:54:32,120 --> 05:54:33,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: welfare,

6432
05:54:34,720 --> 05:54:35,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: income,

6433
05:54:36,100 --> 05:54:36,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba?

6434
05:54:36,480 --> 05:54:37,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Viability,

6435
05:54:37,300 --> 05:54:38,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: profitability,

6436
05:54:38,260 --> 05:54:40,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang tinutuhog natin

6437
05:54:40,940 --> 05:54:42,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: o tinatahak natin

6438
05:54:42,900 --> 05:54:44,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at isinusulong natin.

6439
05:54:44,920 --> 05:54:45,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi nga,

6440
05:54:45,400 --> 05:54:46,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa totoo lang,

6441
05:54:46,220 --> 05:54:48,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pag hindi na nagsasaka

6442
05:54:48,260 --> 05:54:49,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang mga magsasaka,

6443
05:54:49,660 --> 05:54:50,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lahat tayo dito,

6444
05:54:50,660 --> 05:54:51,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: wala nang trabaho.

6445
05:54:52,340 --> 05:54:52,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

6446
05:54:52,880 --> 05:54:54,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Siguro ako meron pa dahil,

6447
05:54:55,000 --> 05:54:57,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pero wala na akong chairmanship

6448
05:54:57,160 --> 05:54:58,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng Agriculture Committee

6449
05:54:58,520 --> 05:55:00,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil wala nang mga magsasaka.

6450
05:55:01,120 --> 05:55:01,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

6451
05:55:01,600 --> 05:55:03,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I think that should be fundamental.

6452
05:55:04,740 --> 05:55:05,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Benchmarking incomes.

6453
05:55:07,600 --> 05:55:09,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because precisely,

6454
05:55:10,060 --> 05:55:11,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we want the next generation

6455
05:55:11,940 --> 05:55:13,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of Filipinos

6456
05:55:13,640 --> 05:55:14,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to consider farming.

6457
05:55:15,160 --> 05:55:16,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the only way

6458
05:55:16,100 --> 05:55:17,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they will consider it

6459
05:55:17,200 --> 05:55:20,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and not consider

6460
05:55:20,340 --> 05:55:22,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: another career

6461
05:55:22,780 --> 05:55:23,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is because it pays.

6462
05:55:25,140 --> 05:55:25,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

6463
05:55:25,340 --> 05:55:26,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It addresses

6464
05:55:27,160 --> 05:55:28,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the bottom line

6465
05:55:28,480 --> 05:55:30,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of day-to-day sustenance.

6466
05:55:31,080 --> 05:55:31,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Eh kung ganun,

6467
05:55:32,500 --> 05:55:32,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba?

6468
05:55:34,200 --> 05:55:36,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bakit mag-iisip

6469
05:55:36,120 --> 05:55:36,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mag-farming

6470
05:55:36,680 --> 05:55:38,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang ating mga kabataan

6471
05:55:38,840 --> 05:55:40,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kung meron ng

6472
05:55:40,180 --> 05:55:42,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: vow of poverty pala?

6473
05:55:43,000 --> 05:55:44,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Eh mag-call center na lang ako

6474
05:55:44,860 --> 05:55:46,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: o mag-ibang bansa ako

6475
05:55:46,920 --> 05:55:47,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or whatever.

6476
05:55:49,320 --> 05:55:49,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

6477
05:55:50,140 --> 05:55:51,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and they keep saying,

6478
05:55:51,120 --> 05:55:52,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: how do you make farming sexy?

6479
05:55:53,580 --> 05:55:55,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You provide for the bottom line.

6480
05:55:55,460 --> 05:55:56,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Make it,

6481
05:55:56,000 --> 05:55:57,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: make it pay.

6482
05:55:57,160 --> 05:55:59,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

6483
05:56:00,620 --> 05:56:01,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dapat,

6484
05:56:01,640 --> 05:56:02,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dapat maganda

6485
05:56:02,660 --> 05:56:04,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang sinasahod

6486
05:56:04,220 --> 05:56:06,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: o kaya kinikita

6487
05:56:06,540 --> 05:56:08,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para maging sexy.

6488
05:56:08,700 --> 05:56:09,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: There's no other way.

6489
05:56:10,940 --> 05:56:11,840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mr. Chair.

6490
05:56:12,120 --> 05:56:12,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, sir.

6491
05:56:12,640 --> 05:56:12,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, ma'am.

6492
05:56:12,980 --> 05:56:14,520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I just like to

6493
05:56:14,520 --> 05:56:15,460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to

6494
05:56:15,460 --> 05:56:17,200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: extend

6495
05:56:17,200 --> 05:56:18,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: my appreciation

6496
05:56:18,500 --> 05:56:19,600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for your observation

6497
05:56:19,600 --> 05:56:20,440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and intervention

6498
05:56:20,440 --> 05:56:21,160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: regarding

6499
05:56:21,760 --> 05:56:23,020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: farmers' income.

6500
05:56:23,300 --> 05:56:24,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I have disputed

6501
05:56:24,340 --> 05:56:25,740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for a long, long time

6502
05:56:25,740 --> 05:56:26,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the continued

6503
05:56:26,880 --> 05:56:27,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: emphasis

6504
05:56:27,880 --> 05:56:30,220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on production numbers,

6505
05:56:30,220 --> 05:56:31,380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the projection

6506
05:56:31,380 --> 05:56:32,980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on number of workshops

6507
05:56:32,980 --> 05:56:33,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and training,

6508
05:56:33,880 --> 05:56:35,880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: number of beneficiaries,

6509
05:56:35,880 --> 05:56:38,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: number of seeds distributed,

6510
05:56:38,080 --> 05:56:40,340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: number of mechanical dryers.

6511
05:56:40,340 --> 05:56:42,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi po yun ang target,

6512
05:56:42,140 --> 05:56:43,640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang ending target po,

6513
05:56:43,640 --> 05:56:46,180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: dapat yung farmers' income,

6514
05:56:46,180 --> 05:56:48,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: how much money is actually

6515
05:56:48,140 --> 05:56:50,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in the pockets of farmers.

6516
05:56:50,140 --> 05:56:52,140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kung yun ang tutumbukin natin,

6517
05:56:52,140 --> 05:56:53,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: makakasabi tayo

6518
05:56:53,720 --> 05:56:55,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na nagtagumpay ang DA.

6519
05:56:55,720 --> 05:56:56,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hanggat hindi na

6520
05:56:56,720 --> 05:56:57,720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: dodoble yan

6521
05:56:57,720 --> 05:56:58,700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: o triple pa

6522
05:56:58,700 --> 05:56:59,500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kasi yun na nga

6523
05:56:59,500 --> 05:57:00,620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang sinasabing ngayon,

6524
05:57:00,980 --> 05:57:02,240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: wala tayong nagawa.

6525
05:57:02,540 --> 05:57:03,080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yun lang po.

6526
05:57:03,720 --> 05:57:05,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, if I may add na rin,

6527
05:57:05,720 --> 05:57:06,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: naalala ko

6528
05:57:06,980 --> 05:57:07,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and

6529
05:57:07,280 --> 05:57:08,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the

6530
05:57:08,860 --> 05:57:10,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Philippine Coconut Authority

6531
05:57:10,580 --> 05:57:11,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bureaucracy

6532
05:57:11,280 --> 05:57:12,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: employees,

6533
05:57:12,980 --> 05:57:13,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: staff,

6534
05:57:13,380 --> 05:57:13,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or here,

6535
05:57:14,420 --> 05:57:15,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I said this,

6536
05:57:15,460 --> 05:57:16,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the coconut farmers

6537
05:57:16,580 --> 05:57:17,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then,

6538
05:57:17,340 --> 05:57:18,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and I think it still

6539
05:57:18,860 --> 05:57:19,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: holds true today,

6540
05:57:19,700 --> 05:57:20,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: are the poorest

6541
05:57:20,260 --> 05:57:21,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of all the farmers.

6542
05:57:22,100 --> 05:57:23,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The coconut farmers.

6543
05:57:23,360 --> 05:57:24,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I said this,

6544
05:57:24,160 --> 05:57:24,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what's

6545
05:57:24,460 --> 05:57:26,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because the programs

6546
05:57:26,000 --> 05:57:26,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the PCC,

6547
05:57:26,720 --> 05:57:28,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they are still

6548
05:57:28,580 --> 05:57:29,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the programs now,

6549
05:57:29,520 --> 05:57:30,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: fertilization.

6550
05:57:31,060 --> 05:57:31,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Why?

6551
05:57:31,900 --> 05:57:33,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because if you fertilize

6552
05:57:33,180 --> 05:57:34,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: after two years,

6553
05:57:34,220 --> 05:57:35,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you will double the yield.

6554
05:57:35,640 --> 05:57:35,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

6555
05:57:36,220 --> 05:57:37,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So bakit may importante

6556
05:57:37,660 --> 05:57:38,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung double yield?

6557
05:57:38,660 --> 05:57:38,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

6558
05:57:39,400 --> 05:57:40,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mahalaga yun.

6559
05:57:41,260 --> 05:57:42,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Poorest farmers kasi sila.

6560
05:57:42,960 --> 05:57:44,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You want to double their yield.

6561
05:57:45,720 --> 05:57:46,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Replanting.

6562
05:57:46,720 --> 05:57:47,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because,

6563
05:57:47,900 --> 05:57:49,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ilang percent na ba

6564
05:57:49,300 --> 05:57:50,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng ating coconut

6565
05:57:50,320 --> 05:57:52,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: senile?

6566
05:57:52,800 --> 05:57:53,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

6567
05:57:53,140 --> 05:57:53,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Coconut trees.

6568
05:57:53,860 --> 05:57:54,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is it still

6569
05:57:54,500 --> 05:57:55,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 70%?

6570
05:57:55,720 --> 05:57:56,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 70%?

6571
05:57:56,720 --> 05:57:58,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So senile.

6572
05:57:59,000 --> 05:57:59,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun ang tawag dun.

6573
05:57:59,800 --> 05:57:59,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

6574
05:58:00,060 --> 05:58:01,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So we need to replant.

6575
05:58:02,080 --> 05:58:02,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

6576
05:58:02,900 --> 05:58:03,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then,

6577
05:58:03,740 --> 05:58:07,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and then you need

6578
05:58:07,340 --> 05:58:08,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to intercrop.

6579
05:58:08,920 --> 05:58:09,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bakit?

6580
05:58:09,740 --> 05:58:10,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi nga,

6581
05:58:10,500 --> 05:58:11,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dagdag kita,

6582
05:58:12,120 --> 05:58:13,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the coconut

6583
05:58:13,560 --> 05:58:15,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is a social plant.

6584
05:58:15,720 --> 05:58:16,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It loves to have

6585
05:58:16,700 --> 05:58:18,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: other plants around it

6586
05:58:18,220 --> 05:58:20,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for yields to improve.

6587
05:58:21,120 --> 05:58:21,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And so,

6588
05:58:22,400 --> 05:58:23,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: intercropping,

6589
05:58:24,680 --> 05:58:25,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: fertilization,

6590
05:58:26,160 --> 05:58:26,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: replanting.

6591
05:58:26,720 --> 05:58:27,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun yung tatlong

6592
05:58:27,780 --> 05:58:29,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: major interventions

6593
05:58:29,540 --> 05:58:30,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng PCA.

6594
05:58:30,760 --> 05:58:31,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tinanong ko sila.

6595
05:58:32,200 --> 05:58:33,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So after all those

6596
05:58:33,240 --> 05:58:33,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: interventions,

6597
05:58:34,580 --> 05:58:35,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ano nang magiging

6598
05:58:35,500 --> 05:58:36,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: income ng farmer?

6599
05:58:41,400 --> 05:58:42,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Times two,

6600
05:58:42,360 --> 05:58:42,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mr. Chair.

6601
05:58:43,680 --> 05:58:44,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, only for,

6602
05:58:44,680 --> 05:58:46,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mas mataas dapat.

6603
05:58:47,380 --> 05:58:48,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero hindi nila masagot.

6604
05:58:52,680 --> 05:58:53,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

6605
05:58:54,180 --> 05:58:55,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: since all your

6606
05:58:55,820 --> 05:58:56,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: interventions are

6607
05:58:56,720 --> 05:58:57,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meant to increase

6608
05:58:57,480 --> 05:58:58,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the income of your

6609
05:58:58,360 --> 05:58:59,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: coconut farmer

6610
05:58:59,400 --> 05:59:00,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because he is

6611
05:59:00,880 --> 05:59:01,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the poorest farmer,

6612
05:59:02,160 --> 05:59:03,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: why don't we know

6613
05:59:03,020 --> 05:59:04,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what the income

6614
05:59:04,680 --> 05:59:05,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will be after

6615
05:59:05,600 --> 05:59:08,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the targeted incomes

6616
05:59:08,260 --> 05:59:10,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will be after

6617
05:59:10,140 --> 05:59:10,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your interventions?

6618
05:59:12,640 --> 05:59:13,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I think

6619
05:59:13,240 --> 05:59:14,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that's a paradigm

6620
05:59:14,640 --> 05:59:16,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: shift that requires

6621
05:59:16,280 --> 05:59:18,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: everyone in the

6622
05:59:18,960 --> 05:59:19,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bureaucracy of the

6623
05:59:19,740 --> 05:59:20,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: department to

6624
05:59:20,540 --> 05:59:22,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: think about

6625
05:59:22,040 --> 05:59:22,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as you do your

6626
05:59:22,780 --> 05:59:23,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: interventions.

6627
05:59:24,020 --> 05:59:24,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

6628
05:59:24,600 --> 05:59:26,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ano ang kinikita ngayon?

6629
05:59:26,720 --> 05:59:28,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ano ang kikitain

6630
05:59:28,760 --> 05:59:30,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pagkatapos ng interventions?

6631
05:59:31,240 --> 05:59:31,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I remember

6632
05:59:31,980 --> 05:59:32,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: when we had to do

6633
05:59:32,840 --> 05:59:33,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: our computations,

6634
05:59:34,560 --> 05:59:35,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it was about

6635
05:59:35,740 --> 05:59:37,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kikita na ng about

6636
05:59:37,760 --> 05:59:41,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 250,000 a year.

6637
05:59:41,800 --> 05:59:42,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tama ba yun?

6638
05:59:42,400 --> 05:59:42,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nga ganon.

6639
05:59:43,260 --> 05:59:43,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Do-doble.

6640
05:59:43,900 --> 05:59:45,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi noon, 15,000.

6641
05:59:47,200 --> 05:59:47,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

6642
05:59:48,360 --> 05:59:48,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So I hope,

6643
05:59:49,240 --> 05:59:49,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know,

6644
05:59:49,900 --> 05:59:51,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we will end with this note.

6645
05:59:52,460 --> 05:59:53,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Let's put together

6646
05:59:53,640 --> 05:59:55,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that intervention

6647
05:59:55,080 --> 05:59:56,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that we now address

6648
05:59:56,340 --> 05:59:56,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: across the country.

6649
05:59:56,720 --> 05:59:57,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So subsectors,

6650
05:59:58,360 --> 05:59:58,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba?

6651
05:59:58,640 --> 05:59:59,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The benchmark.

6652
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:01,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Benchmarking of incomes.

6653
06:00:01,960 --> 06:00:05,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: When I was in China in 2012,

6654
06:00:07,000 --> 06:00:09,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: their historical data is,

6655
06:00:09,580 --> 06:00:13,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in 1979, the farmer's income was 179 yuan,

6656
06:00:13,740 --> 06:00:16,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or 180 yuan a month.

6657
06:00:16,340 --> 06:00:18,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now, it's 7,000 yuan a month.

6658
06:00:19,100 --> 06:00:21,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So it was pretty clear that was 2012.

6659
06:00:23,380 --> 06:00:28,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Vietnam, when I spoke with the Ministry of Agriculture of Vietnam

6660
06:00:28,540 --> 06:00:32,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: during the, this was also when I was Food Security Secretary,

6661
06:00:32,800 --> 06:00:33,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that was 15 years ago,

6662
06:00:34,360 --> 06:00:35,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they had targets.

6663
06:00:36,000 --> 06:00:42,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The per capita income of our farmers was $500 per capita.

6664
06:00:42,500 --> 06:00:45,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It is now $900 in the next 10 years.

6665
06:00:45,740 --> 06:00:48,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It will be $2,000 per capita.

6666
06:00:49,780 --> 06:00:50,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So something like that.

6667
06:00:51,080 --> 06:00:52,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So benchmark na naman ang income.

6668
06:00:53,580 --> 06:00:56,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And that should be, I think, something that before you,

6669
06:00:56,940 --> 06:00:59,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: before you leave the bureaucracy,

6670
06:00:59,620 --> 06:01:02,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or if you're reappointed by the next administration,

6671
06:01:03,120 --> 06:01:04,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I hope,

6672
06:01:04,440 --> 06:01:08,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sec. Kiko, you can do that.

6673
06:01:08,620 --> 06:01:12,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Come up with the benchmarking of incomes across subsectors

6674
06:01:12,420 --> 06:01:14,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that we know where we are

6675
06:01:14,960 --> 06:01:17,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and we know where we want to go

6676
06:01:17,000 --> 06:01:21,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with respect to farmers' income

6677
06:01:21,480 --> 06:01:24,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and yung kita nila and yung income nila.

6678
06:01:25,800 --> 06:01:26,620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair?

6679
06:01:26,940 --> 06:01:29,040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you for your insights and your guidance

6680
06:01:29,040 --> 06:01:31,200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and we will proceed accordingly

6681
06:01:31,200 --> 06:01:32,960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and follow your lead.

6682
06:01:33,520 --> 06:01:34,360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Maganda ho yun.

6683
06:01:35,400 --> 06:01:38,640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Honestly, hindi ko masyadong tugunan ng pansin

6684
06:01:38,640 --> 06:01:40,560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but we will get you on to it.

6685
06:01:42,180 --> 06:01:43,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you very much.

6686
06:01:43,480 --> 06:01:45,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, before we wrap up,

6687
06:01:46,220 --> 06:01:47,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: just for the record,

6688
06:01:48,060 --> 06:01:52,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: please comply with all the requirements of the DBM

6689
06:01:52,480 --> 06:01:54,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for your submissions.

6690
06:01:56,940 --> 06:02:01,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that we can...

6691
06:02:01,440 --> 06:02:08,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that the funds can be released for this year.

6692
06:02:09,300 --> 06:02:12,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And subject to the submission of all the requested documents

6693
06:02:12,720 --> 06:02:17,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of our members of the committee in the Senate,

6694
06:02:18,200 --> 06:02:22,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the budget of the DA, OSEC,

6695
06:02:22,100 --> 06:02:26,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: together with the attached agencies and corporations,

6696
06:02:26,940 --> 06:02:29,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: again, subject to the submissions as requested,

6697
06:02:30,160 --> 06:02:33,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is deemed submitted for consideration of the plenary.

6698
06:02:37,400 --> 06:02:41,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you, Secretary Kiko and the DA family.

6699
06:02:42,060 --> 06:02:44,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The hearing of Subcommittee G is hereby suspended.

6700
06:02:45,400 --> 06:02:46,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maraming salamat. Magandang hapon.