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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The hearing of the Committee on Finance, Finance Subcommittee G, is hereby called to order.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Our hearing today is the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Agriculture, its attached agencies and corporations. We would like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Erwin Tulfo. And may we now call on our Committee Secretary, Attorney Philip Lina, to acknowledge and place on record our resource persons for today.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You have the floor, Attorney Lina.

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Committee Secretary: Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Senator Tulfo. In attendance in this budget briefing of the Department of Agriculture are the following: Secretary Francisco Tiu Laurel Jr.; Attorney Asis G. Perez, Undersecretary for Policy Planning and Regulations; Engineer Roger V. Navarro, Undersecretary for Operations and Agri-Fisheries Mechanization.

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Committee Secretary: Nora C. Oliveros, Undersecretary for Finance; Carlos C. Carrag, Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement; Engineer Christopher V. Morales, Undersecretary for Rice Industry Development.

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad Caballero, Undersecretary for High Value Crops; Constante J. Palabrica, Undersecretary for Livestock.

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Committee Secretary: Ari A. Perez, Undersecretary for Agro-Marine Industrial Systems.

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Committee Secretary: Telma C. Tolentino, Assistant Secretary for Finance,

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Committee Secretary: Daniel Alfonso N. Aitaydi, Assistant Secretary for Logistics,

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Committee Secretary: Atty. Genevieve E. Villicaria-Guivara,

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Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary for Agribusiness, Marketing and Consumer Affairs,

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Committee Secretary: and for Legislative Affairs and DLLO,

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Committee Secretary: Atty. Joycel R. Panlilio, Assistant Secretary for High-Value Crops,

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Committee Secretary: and Saqib Saka and Intellectual Property Rights.

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Committee Secretary: From the Bureaus, Elisir S. Salilig,

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Committee Secretary: Director, Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources.

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Committee Secretary: From the Department of Budget and Management,

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Committee Secretary: Gemma G. Ilagan, Director for,

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Committee Secretary: from the Commission on Audit,

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Committee Secretary: Viuli Q. Molina,

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Committee Secretary: Lorelay M. Placido,

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Committee Secretary: and Velvet Chiqui M. Manalo,

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Committee Secretary: and other invited guests,

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Committee Secretary: Director Lourdes Aganon,

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Committee Secretary: the DBM Director for Organization,

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Committee Secretary: Position Classification and Compensation Bureau,

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Committee Secretary: Helen Holgado, also from the same service,

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Committee Secretary: Timothy Solomon, People's Budget Coalition.

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Committee Secretary: That's all for now, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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Committee Secretary: Thank you.

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Committee Secretary: Mr. Ken Abante, from the People's Budget Coalition.

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Committee Secretary: Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you very much, Atty. Phillip, our Comsec.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Magandang umaga sa kanilang lahat.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang warning ng pag-asa na posibleng magpatuloy hanggang first half ng 2027

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang napakalakas na El Niño.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tinataya naman ng DA na maaaring mabawasa,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng mga 700,000 metric tons ang palay production sa second half ng taon

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil sa strong El Nino at iba pang weather-related shocks.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Banta rin ang matinding init at water shortage sa mga livestock, fishpond, at fisheries.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dahil sa mga babalang ito, kailangang paglaanan ng karampatang budget ang irigasyon,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: imbakan ng tubig, gayon din ang paglalaan para sa agarang tulong sa ating mga magsasaka at mangingisda

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na ngayon pa lamang ay pinsala na ang inaabot o nararamdaman o nararanasan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: By our calculation, ang pagkawala ng 700,000 metric tons

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng palay ay sapat para sa taonang pangangailangan sa bigas ng tinatayang 3.6 million na mga kababayan natin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Isang mahalagang hakbang para sa buong bansa ang pag-aproba sa P171.3 billion na inilalaan ng Department of Agriculture for 2027.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang national budget na ito ang gagamitin para tuloy.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na makapagtanim at makapagpangisda ang ating mga magsasaka at mangingisda

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para merong sapat na supply ang ating mga pamilyan at makakayanan ng pamilyang Pilipino ang kanilang susunod na kakainin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Isipin natin itong budget na parang paghahanda sa isang malaking salu-salu sa hapagkainan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At ang iba't ibang ahensya ng DA,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang ating mga kusinero at bawat isa ay may mahalagang tungkulin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bigas, gulay, livestock, isda, storage, distribution.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kailangan tiyakin ng DA na iisa ang sinusunod na plano ng lahat.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi problema ang maraming kusinero, problema kapag walang koordinasyon.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kulang-kulang ang mga sangkap at ikanga pagtulong.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: O pagdating ng damo, napatay na ang kabayo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yan ang hamon para kay Secretary ka-tukayo, Kiko Laurel.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The urgency is already measurable.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 6.87 billion pesos in drought losses.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Wala pa yung pinaka-impact ng Super El Nino as of September 26.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yet, as of October 6, assistance medyo nagkukulang.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 2.53 million ang natulungan sa target beneficiaries na 11.2 million.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang tanong din, hindi ba dapat dahil limang regyon na ang tinatamaan ng El Nino

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: base sa datos ng DA, hindi ba dapat magdeklara na ng National State of Calamity

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang ating national government?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Para magkaroon na ng dagdag na suporta at pondo dahil nga narito na ang El Nino.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If I recall correctly, El Nino is already damaging crops and livelihoods in Region 2,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Region 5, CALABARZON,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: SOCCSKSARGEN, Region 2, and one more, and Region 5.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 of 13 regions.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I believe the Executive Department should seriously consider a State of Calamity Declaration

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that we can better address the challenge.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the Super El Nino.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dapat maging sentro ng 2027 budget ang tubig at irigasyon.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero tatalakayin pa rin natin ang iba pang mga issue ng Departamento.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung underutilized funds in the 2026 budget, agriculture smuggling,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: agri-impact ng tuloy-tuloy pa rin gulo sa gitnang silangan, ang Iran-US-Israel war,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang taripa sa ating...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pork imports, mga farm-to-market roads, yung problema sa delay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa pag-implementa ng food hubs, among others.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pakinggan po natin ang presentasyon.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Secretary Kiko, for your presence and your leadership in the Department of Agriculture.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We are ready to hear your presentation.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But before that, we give the floor to Senator Erwin Tulfo for his opening statement.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ah, mahal na Chairman, Senator Kiko Pangilinan, si Agriculture Secretary Kiko Laurel, Jr.,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: mga kasamahan sa pamahalaan, mga kababayan, magandang umaga po sa ating lahat.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ngayong araw, ating tatalakay ng panukalang budget ng Department of Agriculture

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: at ng mga attached agencies and corporations nito para sa taong 2027.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Agrikultura po ay isa sa pinakamahalagang sektor ng ating ekonomiya.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Dito, nakasalalay po ang ating pagkain, kabuhayan, ng milyong-milyong magsisakat,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: mangingisda, at sa presyo ng pagkain sa hapag ng bawat Pilipinong pamilya.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Under the 2027 NEP, the DA family has proposed total budget of around 198.4 billion pesos,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: composed approximately of 196.9 billion pesos in new appropriations

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: and 1.5 billion pesos in automatic appropriations.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Under House Bill No. 108.58,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: itinaas po ito sa 210 billion pesos with 208.5 billion in new appropriations.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sa pagginig po nating umaga, nais nating malinawan sa ilang mahalagang usapin.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Una, ang agricultural smuggling.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Noong nakarang taon, nasaksihan natin ang ating mga hearings sa pangunguna nga po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ng ating chairman, Sen. Kiko Pangilinan,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kung paano po nagturuan ng DA, Bureau of Customs, at ilang law enforcement agencies.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kung sino ang pananagutan sa paghawak, pag-iingat, at pag-dispose o pagsira

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ng mga nakumpiskang smuggled agricultural products.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Nalinaw na po ba kung saan nagsisimula at nagtatapos ang mandato ng bawat ahensya?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: May malinaw na ba ang chain of custody at accountability upang hindi na maulit pang muli ang ganitong kalituhan?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ikalawa, ang karapatan po ng ating maliliit na mangingisda.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Naging malaking usapin din po sa 2023 decision ng RTC Malabon sa kaso ng Mercedar Fishing Corporation

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: na may malaking implikasyon sa pagpasok ng commercial fishing vessels sa 15-kilometer municipal waters.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Isa sa mga nakitang problema rito ay ang procedural lapses ng BIFAR.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kagagaling ko lamang po sa Mimaropa kahapon, sa Marinduque, Romblon, Mindoro, at Palacios.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Inawan, iisa po ang sigaw ng mga magsasaka o mangingisda.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Wala na pong nakukuhang isda dahil kinuha na po ng malaking kumpanyang ito ang kanilang dapat sana ihuli.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: They are being forced to go out.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Milya-milya po ang layo para lamang makakuha ng isda.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Samantalang, ang mga fishing companies, ito, corporation na ito, ay hindi na kailangan lumayo pa

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: para ikang mangisda at makakuha ng maraming isda.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ang tanong natin, ano ang ginagawa ng BIFAR upang maitama ang mga pagkukulang at maprotektahan ang kabuhayan ng mga maliliit nating mangingisda?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ay katlo, rice production.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Tayo ay isang agricultural country.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Dito po matatagpuan ang International Rice Research Institute.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ngunit nananatili tayong number one importer ng bigas sa buong mundo.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: During Marshall Law po, tayo po ay exporter.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ngayon, tayo na po ang importer.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Hindi ba't malaking kabalintunaan ito?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: May lupa tayo, may mga magsasaka, may teknolohiya at mga eksperto.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ngunit, bakit hindi pa rin natin matugunan ang sarili nating pangangailangan sa bigas?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kailangan pa natin, ikanga, humingi ng tulong at kumuha sa ibang bansa.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ano ang konkretong plano po ng DEA umang mapataas ang lokal na produksyon at mabawasan ang ating pagdidepende sa importasyon?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ikaapat, ang kalagayan po ng ating mga magsasaka, marami pong lumalapit sa aming tanggapan na nagre-reklamo sa napakamahal na presyo ng abono at napakamababang farmgate price ng palay.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Habang hirap na hirap kumita ang ating magsasaka, may mga middlemen at negosyanteng nagpapatong ng napakalaking tubo bago makarating ang produkto sa ating mga mamimili.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Dalawang beses na talo ang Pilipino.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Lugi na nga po ang magsasaka natin, mahal pa ang binibili ng consumer.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ano ang ginagawa po ng ating ahensya upang mapababa ang production cost?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Matiyak ang makatarungang presyuhan sa supply chain.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: At ang ikalamang problema, ang paghahanda sa napipintong matinding El Niño sa susunod na taon.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Hindi natin kailangang antayin matuyo ang ating mga sakahan, masira ang mga pananim.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Tumaas ang presyo ng pagkain bago tayo kumilos.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: May sapat na ba tayong plano para sa irigasyon at patubig?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Nakapaghanda na ba tayo ng drought-resistant crops, mga binhi at iba pang suporta para sa ating mga magsasaka?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Paano natin titiyaking hindi mauwi sa kakulangan ng pagkain ang matinding tagtuyo?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sa ating mga kaibigan sa DA, nais ko pong idein na huwag sana natin gawing palaging dahilan ng kakulangan sa budget.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kung bakit hindi natin nagagampana ng ating mga tungkulin.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Taon-taon po, suportado po kayo ng ikang institusyon na ito.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Bilyong-bilyong piso po ang inilalaan ng pamahalaan sa sektor po ng agrikultura.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Karapatan din po ng taong bayan na malaman kung saan napupunta ang pondong ito, paano ito ginagastos at ano ang kongkretong resulta.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Hindi po sapat na mataas lang ang utilization, obligation at disbursement rates.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ang mahalagang tanong ngayon ay may napapala ba ang ating mga magsasaka, mangingisda at mamimili?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ito po ay isang hamon sa aking kaibigan, si Sekretary Kiko Laurel Jr.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sa madaling salita na is natin makita, hindi lamang ang mga programa at pangako, kundi ang mga resulta at malinaw na pananagutan.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Patunay po natin o patunayan po natin sa ating mga kababayan na ang bawat piso ang inilalaan sa agrikultura ay nagagamit ng tama,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: fordoktibo at may buong transparency at accountability. Maraming salamat po, Ginong Chairman.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maraming salamat, Senator Erwin Tulfo. We now give the floor to Sekretary Kiko Laurel. Do you have an opening statement? Go ahead, Sek Kiko, you have the floor.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Honorable Chairman, distinguished members of the Senate Committee on Finance, colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, good morning.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Today we seek your support for the Department of Agriculture's proposed 2027 Bill.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At the time when our farmers and fisherfolk face a perfect storm, a looming super El Nino, worsening climate risks, and rising costs of fuel fertilizers and vital inputs, pressures compounded by geopolitical shocks beyond our control.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: The Department of Agriculture cannot control the weather or the price of oil halfway around the world, which also affects the price of fertilizers.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But we can decide on how prepared our farmers are.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And we must. We cannot demand cheap food while leaving farmers struggling to afford to produce it.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nor can we expect our fisherfolks to keep feeding the nation if doing so means their families remain hungry for a better life.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Affordable food begins with viable farms. Food security begins with secure livelihoods.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Our proposed budget is designed to turn these principles into action.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We will continue raising productivity through quality seeds, better inputs and modern technologies, expand farm-to-market roads, cold chain systems, and post-harvest facilities,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and strengthen links between producers and markets so farmers and fisherfolks earn more from what they produce.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We will also invest in climate resilience, disaster preparedness, and biosecurity.

asr-000179
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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Because every harvest lost to drought, every fish catch spoiled in transit,

asr-000180
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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: every crop destroyed by disease is not merely an agricultural setback, it is food lost, income lost, and opportunity lost.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Every peso invested wisely in agriculture can help deliver more than food.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It can mean more stable prices, stronger rural economies, better paying livelihoods, and greater dignity for millions of Filipinos.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But public investment must come with public accountability.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Government assistance must reach small farmers, fisherfolks, and agrarian communities.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For whom it is intended.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Every program must be measured not simply by how much it spends, but by what it delivers.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Higher productivity, higher net incomes, fewer post-harvest losses, and food that remains safe and affordable.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In a moment, Undersecretary Aziz Perez will present the details of our proposed budget and investments that will help us meet these goals.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But beyond the figures lies a fundamental choice.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Whether we will continue asking our food producers to do more,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or give them the tools, infrastructure, and protection they need to thrive.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Honorable Senators,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: A nation cannot eat budget figures, but with the right investments,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: those figures can help put food on every table and a better future within every farmer's reach.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: On behalf of the Department of Agriculture, I respectfully seek the Senate's support for our proposed 2027 budget.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Together, we are committed to a culture that not only feeds the country,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but also provides a more sustainable future.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: A future that will be more productive and a better life for the people who feed us.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you very much.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you Mr. Chairman and good morning to everybody.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you very much, Secretary Kiko Laurel.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before we get on with the presentation by Usec Aziz Perez,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we place on record and acknowledge the presence of our former Senate President, currently Senate President Pro Temp, Senator Tito Soto.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Usec Aziz, with your presentation of the Department's 2027 proposed budget.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Go ahead.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Good morning, Mr. Chair and to the honorable members of this committee.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: It is an honor to present the Department's Agriculture FYI, FY2027 National Expenditure Program.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Before that, I would like to provide the outline of this presentation.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before you proceed, we'd like to acknowledge the presence of our Senate President,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator Win Gatchalian and Senate President Gatchalian.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Good morning.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: In this outline, before we dive into the details of the National Expenditure Program,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: we would like to provide a brief snapshot of the current situation in agriculture and fisheries sector.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This will provide a broader context of our programs and investments under the NEP.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: After this overview, we will walk through the details of the NEP.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Of the 2.3 trillion GDP in 2025, agriculture and fisheries sector generated around 1.83 trillion, contributing around 7.9% to the overall economy.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: The agriculture and fisheries share has steadily declined from 10.1% in 2020 despite remarkable resilience during the pandemic.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This highlights the need to accelerate growth and strengthen the sector's contribution to the economy.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: In terms of stakeholders, we have 10.44 million registered individuals in our SPSA.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This is broadly consistent with the PSA estimate of 10 million people engaged in agriculture and fisheries,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: or an equivalence of about one for every five workers.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Our registry will provide a clearer picture as shown in the table.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Now, poverty among the farmers and fisher folks has declined substantially over the past two decades.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Yet, it remains significantly higher than the national average.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: In 2023, poverty incidence stood at 27% for our farmers and 27.4% for our fisher folks, compared with 15.5% nationwide.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This indicates that while we have made progress,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: this has yet to be fully translated into improved livelihoods on those sectors who depend on agriculture.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Now, looking deeper into this figure,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: the 7.9% reflects only the value of production at the farm gate,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: but not the much greater value generated when agricultural products are processed, transported, and sold to the market.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Consider this.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: There will be no 55 kilogram of rice in Metro Manila without the palay,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: brought at 19 pesos from the farmers.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: There will be no 366 peso per kilogram liempo if there is no pork produced at 170 pesos per kilogram.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: There will be no 206 per kilogram chicken without broiler.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: The chicken produced at 119 peso per kilogram.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: These figures highlight the important question.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Are we adequately recognizing the contribution of our farmers and fisher folks to the value generated across the economy?

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We saw the sector importance during the 2020 pandemic when its share in GDP rose to 10.1%, largely because other sectors contracted more sharply.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: When we look at this sector, share in GDP,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: therefore, there is a risk at overlooking agriculture and fisheries in the economic priorities.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: It bears to emphasize that agriculture is the foundational industry.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This is a bedrock upon which many other industries and economic activities depend.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Investing in agriculture, therefore, is not merely investing in the farmers and the fisherfolk.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: It is investing in the strengths, resiliency, and growth in the Philippine economy.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: As we have seen so far, agriculture and fisheries sector creates value,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: yet food insecurity and poverty and vulnerability

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: yet food insecurity and poverty and vulnerability exist among the sector.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: These persistent challenges can be faced to fundamental bottlenecks

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: across the agriculture and fisheries value chain,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: beginning at the resource level where agricultural land is becoming increasingly fragmented,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: with an average size failing from 3.59 hectares to just 0.82 hectares.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This suggests that the only way to move forward is to cluster these farms into economic enterprise

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: to allow what we call the economies of scale.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: At the production level, high input costs and low mechanization continue to constrain productivity,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: with major commodities falling short of their 2025 PDP.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: At the post-harvest stage, we continue to lose significant share of what we produce.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Losses reach 14.5% for rice, 31.6% for onion, and 26.5% for mangoes, as an example.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This shows that the challenge is not only how to produce more, but to prevent losses and preserve them.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We need to increase the value of production all the way to the market.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Finally, logistics and market access remain constrained by inadequate infrastructure and weak transport system.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: An estimated 55,050 km gap in farm-to-market access

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: and 68,433-pallet [unclear] deficit in cold storage capacity

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: to continue to

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: raise transport costs, increase losses, and limit farmers' access to market.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: As mentioned by the Secretary, as if the challenge continues,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: along with this existing challenge, the impact on the conflict in the Middle East,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: particularly on fuel and fertilizer, has increased drastically.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: A year-to-year comparison of August National Weighted Average of Fertilizer will show

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: a higher prices of 6 out of 7 major grades used.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: The highest percentage increase among these includes 46.7% for granular urea,

asr-000292
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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: 43.61% for oil,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: and 40.89% for pilled urea.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: So ito po yung mga figures, sobrang laki na po ng itinaas.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Fertilizer prices began rising in the late 2020 as demand recovered from COVID-19,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: while supply chain remained disrupted and energy cost increased.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Next slide, please.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: The prices.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Okay, next slide, next slide.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Okay, that's okay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We go to the farmgate prices.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We have already expounded on the price of fertilizer and fuel.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Now we go to, well, contrasting the cost of production is the year-on-year.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Next slide, please.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Go back to the previous slide right after the, okay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Now, notwithstanding the cost or the increase in production cost this year,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: a year-on-year comparison of June farmgate prices in selected commodities show varying price changes.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: There is a notable increase in dry palay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: In bangus.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: But we further noted a decrease in prices in hogs.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: It's 19%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: In red onion, 69%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: In broiler, 9%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Chicken eggs, 7%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: And tilapia, 3%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: So tumataas po yung cost of production, pero generally bumababa po yung presyo at the farmgate level.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Particularly for hogs at this time.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: The agricultural sector recorded a trade deficit of around 11.12 billion in 2025.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: But it represents a modest improvement of about 5% compared to the previous year.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This aligns with the trend observed in 2022 where trade gaps are gradually narrowing.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Narrowing.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Supported by raising export alongside moderate import growth.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Despite this encouraging developments, the trade deficit remains substantial.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Bringing this gap will require sustained support for export expansion while aggressively bolstering local farm yields and domestic supply chain.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Looking at the composition of agricultural trade,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: export remains substantial.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: It remains heavily concentrated on just a few commodities.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Coconut products lead toward the average of about 3.6 billion, followed by bananas, at 1.68 billion.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Incidentally, Mr. Chair, we are now confirmed as the second biggest exporter of banana in the world.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: And pineapple products, around 3.370 million.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: On the import side, animal and vegetable oils and pot account for the largest,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: followed by fruits and vegetables and animal feeds.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Together, these figures underscore the sector's narrow export resilience,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: reliance and on the handful products alongside substantial widespread demand for foreign food items at critical production inputs.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Now,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Let me bring you to the sufficiency level of selected commodities.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Based on the 2025 self-sufficiency level,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: domestic production is sufficient in several commodities,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: including root crops and vegetables.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: However, there remains a significant gap for rice, potato, onion, coffee, mango, garlic,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: indicating continued reliance on imports.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: At the livestock level,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: livestock and poultry show generally strong domestic production

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: with chebon and eggs at 100% sufficiency.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Chicken and duck's meat are close to self-sufficiency,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: while caribbean, pork, beef,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: you know, import mix,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: are a large supply of these commodities.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: For fisheries, we have crabs, oysters,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: but when it comes to milkfish, tilapia,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: we are nearly 100%.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: However, for tuna and round scud,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: we remain below self-sufficiency.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Although the department's budget has expanded,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: its share in the national budget remains relatively low,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: averaging just...

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: 2.62% over the past two decades.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: While comparing it with our Asian neighbor,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: FAO data underscores this gap,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: showing that agriculture's share of government expenditure

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: in the Philippines is a lot lower than the expenditures in China,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: India, Thailand, Vietnam, Bangladesh, and Cambodia.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Looking at Indonesia, by contrast,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Indonesia indicates a slightly lower share at 2.6%,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: yet maintains a larger agricultural sector

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: that achieves rice sufficiency in 2025.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: This comparison suggests that progress depends not only on spending,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: but on effective resource management and productivity conversion.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: A key factor that has been Indonesia's focus is agricultural extension since 2020.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Demonstrating that robust extension services serve as a vital mechanism

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: for technology transfer, farmer decision support,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: and targeted intervention delivery.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Before we proceed, Mr. Chair, to FY2027 budget,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: we would like to highlight the five key result areas

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: under the

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Para sa Masabagmaganan,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: and the Five Key Result Areas.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Under the Para sa Masabagmaganan,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: we focus our plans and programs among these key objectives.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: The first one is on enhanced productivity.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We need to increase the yield per hectare.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We cannot increase our land area,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: but definitely we can increase the yield.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We need to increase income,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: and that means lowering the cost and increasing the value.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We need to improve food security and proper nutrition.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: It is not just producing food, but producing nutritious food.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: We need to reduce our dependence on import by increasing or improving self-sufficiency,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: and ultimately reduce poverty in the agriculture and fishery sector.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: For the next set of presentation, Mr. Chair,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: I would like to turn over the floor to Undersecretary Nora Oliveros,

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: who will cast the financial component of our report.

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DA Undersecretary Asis G. Perez: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Yusek Oliveros.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Yusek Aziz Perez.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You now have the floor, Yusek Nora.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Oh, there you go.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Magandang umaga po sa lahat.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Before I proceed to the 2027 budget proposal of the Department of Agriculture,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: let me first brief the Committee on the Utilization of the Funds of DA for 2026.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Well, this slide presents the utilization status of the Department of Agriculture,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: net of attached corporation,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: as of September 30, 2026,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: covering both current and continuing appropriations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The Department has received a total allotment of ₱141.5 billion

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: out of the ₱172 billion total adjusted appropriations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Of this amount, ₱90.4 billion has been obligated,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: representing an overall obligation rate of 63.9%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Total disbursements amounted to ₱50.8 billion, equivalent to 56.2% of total obligations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The majority of the allotment is under current appropriation with an obligation rate of 67%

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: and a disbursement rate of 58%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: For continuing appropriations, the obligation rate is 43.6%,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: while the disbursement rate is 38%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: These figures are being monitored by the Department

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: and have instructed all heads of the agencies

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: to draw a catch-up plan for 2026

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: to ensure the timely utilization and disbursement of the available funds

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: in accordance with the approved programs and applicable government rules.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Next slide, please.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: This slide shows the summary by major programs,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: representing 82% of the total allotment received by the Department of Agriculture.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The Department of Agriculture's major programs are anchored by high-performing areas

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: like the Agricultural Credit Program,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: which achieve highest obligation and disbursement rate.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Key initiatives such as the National Rice Program show strong fund commitment,

asr-000435
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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: though disbursement acceleration is needed across several sectors,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Most notably

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: on foreign-assisted projects where

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: payments lag behind obligations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Overall, programs with large

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: budget allocations, such as

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: locally funded programs continue

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: to drive the bulk of total spending.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: We have also an update on the unreleased funds for 2027, one reason why we have low obligation rates and disbursements.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Some of these are shown on the next slide.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Under the Office of the Secretary, we have a total of 49.7 billion unreleased appropriations as of September 30, 2026, of which 19.8 billion were released in October, namely the funds for the FMR projects amounting to 18.68 billion and the establishment of the Agri-Food Hub project amounting to 500 million pesos.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Under the Office of the Secretary, we have a total of 49.7 billion unreleased appropriations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Some of these are for the National Rice Program, the National High Value Crops, the FMR projects, Animal Welfare Supervision and Accreditation Program, Biosecurity for Agriculture and Fishery, Building Sustainable Agriculture and Fishery Enterprises or the SAFE projects,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: also under the SAGIP-SACA Act, the requests are all for revision, updating the compilation of the required supporting documents to address the observations raised also by the DBM.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Also, unreleased as of September 30 is 22 million for the Cold Storage Expansion Project, the Digital Agriculture Project and 500 million for the establishment of the Agri-Food Hub.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The funds were released, however, in October 2026.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: September, yeah, October 2026, Mr. Chair.

asr-000452
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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Yes, this is additional for the Food Hub, additional release, 500 million.

asr-000453
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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

asr-000454
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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: After September 30, we have received the releases for the Food Hub Project of 500 million.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: October, yes.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Another one.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Yun lang po, after September 30, Food Hub lang po.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So the others are still in, of course, are still ongoing and currently being evaluated by the DBM.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: And some of which are still...

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: And some of which are still ongoing with us because we have to comply for some supporting documents, additional requirements by the DBM, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Next slide are the unreleased appropriations for some of our attached agencies.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: We have also a 250 million pending for the ACPC.

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00:48:12.720 --> 00:48:18.120
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Also, we have already submitted the request for this, but we have also to comply to certain...

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Documentary requirements by the DBM.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: We have also another pending by the BIFAR, 407 million for the mobile water treatment and desalination system.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So that's the status of our unreleased appropriations as of September 30, Mr. Chair.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Now, may I go to the 2027 features of the DA proposal?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: For the agri-sector, which includes the DA, the National Irrigation Administration, and the Department of Agri and Reform,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: the total NEP that we have received as of today is 261.7 billion pesos, of which 198 billion is allocated to the Department of Agriculture.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So this represents a decrease in the budget of the DA comparing with the 2026 GAA of around 17 billion pesos.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: For the whole sector, it is a decrease of 35.3 billion pesos.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Let me go to the details of the 198.4 billion allocated for DA for 2027.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The Department of Agriculture.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: As a budget of 198 billion, a decrease of 17.2 billion, or 8%, compared to the 2026 GAA.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The Department's budget is distributed across key expenditure categories.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So we have around 8.3 billion, or 4.2%, for salaries and compensation.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: MOE, which receives the highest allocation, at 62.46%, or 123.9%.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: These, of course, are funds allocated for the different programs, operations, and services of the DA.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Capital outlay of around 33.34%, or 66.2 billion, for infrastructure, facilities, and other investment that benefit our farmers and fisher folk.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Now, the next slide shows the budget summary as to the cost structure of the budget.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So this is allocated for, the budget of 198 is allocated for general administration and support services, support to operations, and operations.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So the operations budget is allocated around 156 billion for 2027.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The bulk of the decrease, however,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: for the budget of 20, of the DA for 2027, the bulk of the decrease of around 7.2 billion is particularly on the locally funded projects.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Also, we have an increase of 20 billion, no?

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: We have an increase of 20 billion due to the animal industry development and competitive program.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Next slide, please.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: As we look at the budget for 2027, per attached agencies, we have only an increase allocated for the Philippine Center for Post-Harvest Development and Mechanization,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources, and the Philippine Council for Agriculture and Fisheries.

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00:52:24.420 --> 00:52:34.600
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: All other attached agencies of the DA have suffered decrease in the allocation of the 2026 budget.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: For the attached corporation, again, there's only one corporation that received an increase in its budget.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: And this is for the National Tobacco Administration.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: All the seven corporations have received a decrease in their budgets for 2027.

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00:52:59.700 --> 00:53:11.380
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Particularly, the Fisheries Development Authority for its construction, rehabilitation, and improvement of fish ports, around 15.89%,

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: and the Philippine Crop Insurance Corporation.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: For the banner programs, we look at the budget by the banner programs.

asr-000503
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DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Again, all of the banner programs have received decreases in the budget.

asr-000504
00:53:30.180 --> 00:53:39.860
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The National Rice Program, for example, has received a decrease of around 4.8%,

asr-000505
00:53:39.860 --> 00:53:44.400
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: while the National Corn Program has received a decrease of around 4.8%.

asr-000506
00:53:44.420 --> 00:53:46.420
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The National Crop Program has received a decrease of around 4.54%.

asr-000507
00:53:46.420 --> 00:53:51.140
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The High Value Crops Development, 34% decrease.

asr-000508
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:55.420
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: National Organic, 0.48%.

asr-000509
00:53:56.280 --> 00:54:01.580
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Halal Food, 10%.

asr-000510
00:54:01.580 --> 00:54:06.420
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: National Urban and Peri-Urban, 53%.

asr-000511
00:54:06.420 --> 00:54:06.780
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

asr-000512
00:54:10.180 --> 00:54:13.180
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: For the National Livestock Program,

asr-000513
00:54:13.180 --> 00:54:18.700
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: this is not actually a decrease but just a reallocation of the fund

asr-000514
00:54:18.700 --> 00:54:30.360
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: because it has a program of 20 billion under the Animal Industry Development and Competitiveness Program of 20 billion.

asr-000515
00:54:30.700 --> 00:54:35.120
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So, inilipat lang po natin yung appropriations para sa mga tila.

asr-000516
00:54:39.260 --> 00:54:42.120
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: The budget allocation for mainstreaming.

asr-000517
00:54:43.180 --> 00:54:48.340
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Climate Resilient Agriculture in Regional Programs and Projects,

asr-000518
00:54:48.340 --> 00:54:51.440
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: the Kabuhayan at Kaundaran ng Kababayang Katutubo,

asr-000519
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:55.480
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: and the Special Areas for Agricultural Development, Phase 2,

asr-000520
00:54:55.940 --> 00:54:57.880
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: and the National Soil Health Program,

asr-000521
00:54:58.520 --> 00:55:01.580
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: ito po ay inilipat natin sa regular programs.

asr-000522
00:55:02.580 --> 00:55:07.220
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Mainstream na po natin itong mga programang ito sa regular programs natin

asr-000523
00:55:07.220 --> 00:55:09.620
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: across the different banner programs.

asr-000524
00:55:13.180 --> 00:55:18.300
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Makikita din po natin dito sa slide na to,

asr-000525
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:23.020
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: yung notable increase sa Animal Industry Development and Competitiveness Program

asr-000526
00:55:23.020 --> 00:55:25.560
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: pursuant to RA 12308.

asr-000527
00:55:25.700 --> 00:55:33.080
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Ito po yung sinasabi kong 20 billion na allocation for the livestock industry

asr-000528
00:55:33.080 --> 00:55:36.240
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: in compliance with the law.

asr-000529
00:55:38.940 --> 00:55:39.140
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

asr-000530
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:43.020
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Meron din po tayong decrease dun sa atin.

asr-000531
00:55:43.020 --> 00:55:43.140
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

asr-000532
00:55:43.180 --> 00:55:45.520
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Meron din po tayong decrease dun sa ating non-requiring project,

asr-000533
00:55:45.640 --> 00:55:49.260
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: yung Presidential Assistance to Farmers and Fisher Folk,

asr-000534
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:51.400
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: previously approved in 2026.

asr-000535
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:53.940
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Ito po ay hindi na-recommenda.

asr-000536
00:55:55.600 --> 00:55:57.900
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Pero dun po sa ating current na GAB,

asr-000537
00:55:58.020 --> 00:56:00.460
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: ito po ay na-restore, no, around 10 billion.

asr-000538
00:56:08.860 --> 00:56:12.840
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Dun po naman sa ating PCC, sa Philippine Crop Insurance,

asr-000539
00:56:13.180 --> 00:56:20.040
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: ito din po ay Philippine Carabao, yung Philippine Carabao po natin, center,

asr-000540
00:56:20.600 --> 00:56:27.820
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: na ilipat din po ang budget nito doon sa ating Animal Competitiveness Enhancement Program.

asr-000541
00:56:32.240 --> 00:56:37.040
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Kung titignan po naman natin yung budget sa ating foreign-assisted projects,

asr-000542
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:40.140
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: lahat din po ito ay nagkaroon ng decrease.

asr-000543
00:56:40.140 --> 00:56:42.980
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Ang nakita lang po nating increase.

asr-000544
00:56:43.180 --> 00:56:45.540
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Ito ay yung ating bagong project,

asr-000545
00:56:46.020 --> 00:56:50.600
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: yung ating French Government Assisted Project Farm-to-Market Bridge Program,

asr-000546
00:56:51.120 --> 00:56:58.600
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: which aims to address the continuing need for reliable and accessible bridge infrastructure in agri-production areas.

asr-000547
00:56:59.100 --> 00:57:02.980
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: All others po ay decrease po ang ating na-receive.

asr-000548
00:57:06.040 --> 00:57:06.760
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: Okay.

asr-000549
00:57:07.040 --> 00:57:13.120
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: So I think that's it, Mr. Chair, for the features of the DA recommended by,

asr-000550
00:57:13.180 --> 00:57:15.680
DA Undersecretary Nora C. Oliveros: and the budget for 2027.

asr-000551
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:23.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I understand that you will end your presentation here,

asr-000552
00:57:23.940 --> 00:57:31.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and we have this understanding that we will not have a agency-by-agency presentation of budget,

asr-000553
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:42.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but of course, all these attached agencies, the bureaus should be ready to answer the questions to be raised by our senators.

asr-000554
00:57:42.020 --> 00:57:43.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

asr-000555
00:57:43.020 --> 00:57:50.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with that, we can now proceed with the questions of our members of the Senate,

asr-000556
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:55.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with the permission of our Senate President, Senator Aimee Marcos,

asr-000557
00:57:55.540 --> 00:57:59.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: who was here 15 minutes before 10,

asr-000558
00:58:00.080 --> 00:58:05.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: had requested that she be allowed to go for her first round.

asr-000559
00:58:06.220 --> 00:58:11.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And we will give each senator 10 minutes for their first round questions.

asr-000560
00:58:13.020 --> 00:58:17.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we can now proceed with Senator Aimee Marcos.

asr-000561
00:58:17.220 --> 00:58:18.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You have your 10 minutes.

asr-000562
00:58:18.780 --> 00:58:19.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, ma'am.

asr-000563
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:21.680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you very much, Chairman.

asr-000564
00:58:21.680 --> 00:58:23.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: It's farming hours.

asr-000565
00:58:23.100 --> 00:58:24.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: We wake up very early.

asr-000566
00:58:26.820 --> 00:58:31.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: My question simply is, how much are we actually spending on rice,

asr-000567
00:58:33.620 --> 00:58:40.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and still persisting as the number one world's importer of rice?

asr-000568
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:42.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The National Rice Program is 29.2%.

asr-000569
00:58:43.020 --> 00:58:56.020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: RCEP 30 billion, is this correct? RICE for all, 10 billion. Another NFA, 11.1 billion. This doesn't even count the Philippine RICE Institute.

asr-000570
00:58:57.340 --> 00:59:08.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ASEP, CEA, the Remedies Fund, CEMF, many support programs. OSEC, 44.2 billion for RICE again.

asr-000571
00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:15.780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And then, parts that are for RICE under PRDP and the other foreign-assisted projects.

asr-000572
00:59:16.160 --> 00:59:23.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pag sinumatotal po natin ito, hihigit po ito ng 81 billion, yung direct RICE lang.

asr-000573
00:59:25.020 --> 00:59:34.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano ba talaga ang dahilan na nagkukulang pa rin tayo sa pagbibigay ng kanin, ng RICE sa ating mga kababayan?

asr-000574
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:36.700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kulang pa ba ito?

asr-000575
00:59:38.140 --> 00:59:38.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

asr-000576
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:45.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, from our records, it's 60 billion. Sa RICE, not 80 billion.

asr-000577
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:59.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: But yung sa 60, sorry Secretary, para lang sa kwenta. Sinasabi ninyong 60 billion kasi yung National RICE Program, halos 30. Tapos yung Regular RICE Program, 30 ulit.

asr-000578
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:01.720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 60? Ganun po ba?

asr-000579
01:00:04.340 --> 01:00:06.300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: RCEP plus national rice.

asr-000580
01:00:06.460 --> 01:00:07.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa 60 billion,

asr-000581
01:00:08.040 --> 01:00:09.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, is

asr-000582
01:00:09.100 --> 01:00:11.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yan yung direct sa

asr-000583
01:00:11.900 --> 01:00:14.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: production. Kasi meron tayong

asr-000584
01:00:14.100 --> 01:00:15.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: rice for all na 10 billion.

asr-000585
01:00:15.900 --> 01:00:16.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: O, may 10.

asr-000586
01:00:17.020 --> 01:00:19.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Plus NFA na 9 billion, which has

asr-000587
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:21.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nothing to do with production.

asr-000588
01:00:22.220 --> 01:00:23.960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's right. Tapos may presidential

asr-000589
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:26.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 10 billion rent for rice

asr-000590
01:00:26.100 --> 01:00:27.410
Senator Imee R. Marcos: assistant.

asr-000590-split-2
01:00:27.410 --> 01:00:27.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

asr-000591
01:00:27.740 --> 01:00:29.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, marami talaga

asr-000592
01:00:29.600 --> 01:00:31.220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kapag sinumatotal?

asr-000593
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:33.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Marami naman siya, pero kung

asr-000594
01:00:33.500 --> 01:00:34.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tinatanong niyong kulang,

asr-000595
01:00:35.300 --> 01:00:37.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang sagot ko dyan, kulang.

asr-000596
01:00:37.900 --> 01:00:39.860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kulang. Ano ang dapat

asr-000597
01:00:39.860 --> 01:00:41.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: para hindi na tayo

asr-000598
01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:43.480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: number one? After all,

asr-000599
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:45.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: between Erie and Los

asr-000600
01:00:45.500 --> 01:00:47.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Baños, we essentially,

asr-000601
01:00:47.980 --> 01:00:49.860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Filipinos taught the world

asr-000602
01:00:49.860 --> 01:00:51.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: how to plant rice.

asr-000603
01:00:51.420 --> 01:00:53.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tayo naman nagturo eh. Bakit

asr-000604
01:00:53.380 --> 01:00:54.160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nagkagalito?

asr-000605
01:00:55.160 --> 01:00:56.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung akong

asr-000606
01:00:56.180 --> 01:00:58.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tatanong niyo, number one,

asr-000607
01:00:58.860 --> 01:00:59.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: irigasyon.

asr-000608
01:00:59.600 --> 01:01:00.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kulang na kulang.

asr-000609
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:03.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa irigasyon alone,

asr-000610
01:01:04.120 --> 01:01:04.910
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang kailangan...

asr-000610-split-2
01:01:04.910 --> 01:01:05.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero yung irigasyon,

asr-000611
01:01:05.580 --> 01:01:07.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung NIA, wala na sa inyo, hindi po ba?

asr-000612
01:01:07.600 --> 01:01:08.540
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Nasa OP na po?

asr-000613
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:10.680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pero ang tinatanong niyo, kasi

asr-000614
01:01:10.680 --> 01:01:13.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bakit kulang tayo sa bigas eh?

asr-000615
01:01:14.520 --> 01:01:15.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang sagot ko dyan,

asr-000616
01:01:16.200 --> 01:01:17.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kailangan mag-invest po

asr-000617
01:01:17.380 --> 01:01:19.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang ating bansa sa irigasyon.

asr-000618
01:01:19.260 --> 01:01:21.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And it will take 1.2 trillion

asr-000619
01:01:21.580 --> 01:01:23.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pesos to irrigate the remaining

asr-000620
01:01:23.500 --> 01:01:24.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lands natin.

asr-000621
01:01:25.500 --> 01:01:27.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: As far as the DA naman is concerned,

asr-000622
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:29.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, we need

asr-000623
01:01:29.600 --> 01:01:31.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: more money for post-harvest facilities,

asr-000624
01:01:32.060 --> 01:01:34.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: especially dryers for our farmers

asr-000625
01:01:34.040 --> 01:01:35.780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and

asr-000626
01:01:35.780 --> 01:01:38.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mechanization.

asr-000627
01:01:39.240 --> 01:01:41.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Magkano po ang tinitignan ninyo

asr-000628
01:01:41.120 --> 01:01:42.280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: para sa post-harvest?

asr-000629
01:01:43.040 --> 01:01:44.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Maybe another 50 billion, sir.

asr-000630
01:01:45.140 --> 01:01:46.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ama, Mr. Chair.

asr-000631
01:01:46.220 --> 01:01:46.860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 5-0?

asr-000632
01:01:47.140 --> 01:01:49.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I mean, over the years, hindi naman yung immediate.

asr-000633
01:01:50.060 --> 01:01:51.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sang-ayon po ako sa sinasabi ninyo,

asr-000634
01:01:52.060 --> 01:01:53.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: talagang kulang ang

asr-000635
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:56.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: agricultural infrastructure investment,

asr-000636
01:01:56.260 --> 01:01:57.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: itong irigasyon.

asr-000637
01:01:57.640 --> 01:01:59.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sinasagot na rin natin sa PRD,

asr-000638
01:01:59.600 --> 01:02:01.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PPP, sa mga farm-to-market road,

asr-000639
01:02:01.660 --> 01:02:03.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: at yung post-harvest nga,

asr-000640
01:02:03.600 --> 01:02:05.420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na napakalaki ng ating loss

asr-000641
01:02:05.420 --> 01:02:06.700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa post-harvest.

asr-000642
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:09.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, napakalaki pa rin.

asr-000643
01:02:09.340 --> 01:02:11.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Solar irrigation din, under din sa amin

asr-000644
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:12.680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang solar irrigation,

asr-000645
01:02:13.540 --> 01:02:15.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lalo ngayon, El Nino, kulang ang budget

asr-000646
01:02:15.660 --> 01:02:17.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: natin para dyan, Mr. Chair.

asr-000647
01:02:17.600 --> 01:02:19.780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero nakita ko na nagbawas kayo ng budget

asr-000648
01:02:19.780 --> 01:02:21.080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kahit mag-EL Nino.

asr-000649
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:23.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, nagbawas kami ng budget

asr-000650
01:02:23.980 --> 01:02:26.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: because hindi yan yung aming

asr-000651
01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:27.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang proposal namin actually

asr-000652
01:02:27.620 --> 01:02:28.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mas malaki.

asr-000653
01:02:29.600 --> 01:02:33.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, binagsak sa DBCC?

asr-000654
01:02:33.540 --> 01:02:34.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, at

asr-000655
01:02:34.380 --> 01:02:37.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: basically, we had to work

asr-000656
01:02:37.620 --> 01:02:39.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: on a CAPE, Mr. Chair.

asr-000657
01:02:39.980 --> 01:02:41.440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Palibasa tayo nga ang

asr-000658
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:43.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: importer, nagiging usapin

asr-000659
01:02:43.600 --> 01:02:45.720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung importasyon. For clarification,

asr-000660
01:02:46.600 --> 01:02:47.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: who approves the importation

asr-000661
01:02:47.980 --> 01:02:49.220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: permits and clearances?

asr-000662
01:02:49.520 --> 01:02:51.960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi po ba yung Bureau of Plant Industry

asr-000663
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:53.260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: under DA?

asr-000664
01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:54.220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tama po ba yan?

asr-000665
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, it goes through the

asr-000666
01:02:57.600 --> 01:02:58.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: BPI, Mr. Chair.

asr-000667
01:02:58.760 --> 01:02:59.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's right.

asr-000668
01:02:59.600 --> 01:03:00.760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yun din ang alam ko.

asr-000669
01:03:01.240 --> 01:03:02.580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And under the present law,

asr-000670
01:03:02.680 --> 01:03:04.680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: which government agency is authorized

asr-000671
01:03:04.680 --> 01:03:07.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to import rice on a regular basis?

asr-000672
01:03:09.080 --> 01:03:10.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Wala, Mr. Chair.

asr-000673
01:03:11.060 --> 01:03:12.940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The general rule is that

asr-000674
01:03:12.940 --> 01:03:15.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the government, especially

asr-000675
01:03:15.140 --> 01:03:16.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: NTAs, prohibited from

asr-000676
01:03:16.900 --> 01:03:18.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: importing rice. Di po ba?

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01:03:18.860 --> 01:03:20.760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: There's a single exception

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: provided in RA 11203

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Section 6.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi talagang pinaghirapan po

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: namin yan na kinakailangan.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung emergency presidential powers

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: lang ang magsasabi kapag may

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: imminent or forecasted domestic

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: rice shortage. Tama po ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I would like to clarify

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na hindi hong wala ang allowed.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron hong pwede.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Okay. Sinong po sa gobyerno

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang allowed?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: PITC will be allowed.

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01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:52.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: FTI may be allowed.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Full terminal.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: And FTI may be allowed

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: under

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: our understanding is

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: the DA can designate also

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: an entity to import rice

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: under G2G contracts.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Is that correct?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Provided it's not NFA.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya yung sinasabi po ninyo, pag in-assign ninyo

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung PITC or yung FTI,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: pwede naman sila. Tama po ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: I have a question. Yung GOCC ba?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Authorized to import rice?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: FTI is a GOCC.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: So FTI and PICC

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung sinasabi rin ninyo?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Natanong ko kasi, nalilito po ako.

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01:04:32.300 --> 01:04:33.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Since May,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: matagal ko nang tinatanong

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01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:37.300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa planters products

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: kung ano talaga ang status nila.

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01:04:40.680 --> 01:04:41.940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At nakatanggap ako

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng sulat mula sa planters

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01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:45.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na ang pinipilit nila

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01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:48.160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ay private corporation sila.

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01:04:48.240 --> 01:04:49.960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: When in fact, the reality

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: is there's an abject lack of clarity

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: on the status of PPI.

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01:04:54.260 --> 01:04:56.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: There's a Supreme Court case

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa PPI versus Fertifil

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: na yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Supreme Court sabi, private corporation.

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01:05:02.640 --> 01:05:04.080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya tama naman yung sulat

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01:05:04.080 --> 01:05:05.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng PPI. But that case

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: was decided long before

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: the Governance Commission of the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: GOCCs. So as of

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: 30 June 2026,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang GCG

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01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:18.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: continues to classify

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01:05:18.100 --> 01:05:19.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: both PFI

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01:05:19.740 --> 01:05:22.400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and PPI as GOCC.

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01:05:22.980 --> 01:05:24.400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So is PPI

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01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:26.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: a GOCC? Yun ang lista

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01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:27.280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng GOCC.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, in our opinion,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: no. It is not a

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01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:33.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: GOCC. If it is

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01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:35.660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: not a GOCC, what about

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01:05:35.660 --> 01:05:37.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the Planters Foundation, Inc.?

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01:05:38.520 --> 01:05:39.580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: It's after all

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: chaired by you, Mr. Secretary.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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01:05:43.640 --> 01:05:45.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I am the ex-official

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01:05:45.340 --> 01:05:47.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: chairman. And Planters

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: products is sugeneris.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It is unique on its own.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Okay. Parang

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01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:55.260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: madalas natin naririnig yan, ha?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Nagiging magulo tuloy

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01:05:57.620 --> 01:05:59.580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang batas na i-a-apply.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: So if I

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: go with your argument that PPI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: is not a GOCC despite

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: the listing of

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: it under the GOC

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: listing, it is not a

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: GOCC, it's not a public

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01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:15.420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: entity, why is it that

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: the great majority of its directors

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: are nominated by PFI?

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01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:21.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Isn't this not

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: the usual

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: definition of

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: total government control

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: or almost total?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Total government control?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: From what I understand,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung titignan

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: natin yung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sino ba may-ari

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: foundation

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng PFI,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: malinaw naman doon na

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang may-ari nun,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hindi ang gobyerno.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: So who owns it? Kasi

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01:06:53.600 --> 01:06:55.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang sinasabi natin ngayon, yung

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01:06:55.600 --> 01:06:57.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PFI holds in trust

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01:06:57.600 --> 01:06:59.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 80% of the PPI

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: shares. So even

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01:07:01.600 --> 01:07:03.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: if the PFI merely holds in

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: trust those shares, the fact remains

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: na yung PFI,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: gobyerno, is

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: exercising at the very least

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: indirect if complete control

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: over PPI through the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: nominations of the great majority of

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: its directors. Para sa akin,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: very concerning yung potential

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01:07:21.600 --> 01:07:23.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: conflicts of interest

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01:07:23.600 --> 01:07:25.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and the due advantage that

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: may arise. How can DA claim

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: to regulate planters'

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01:07:29.600 --> 01:07:31.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: products impartially

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01:07:31.600 --> 01:07:33.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: when the chairman of PFI

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01:07:33.600 --> 01:07:35.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is the secretary of DA

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: who effectively controls the entire

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: board of directors?

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01:07:39.600 --> 01:07:41.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Are you not effectively regulating

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01:07:41.600 --> 01:07:43.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: a corporation that is under

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: your complete or almost

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01:07:45.600 --> 01:07:47.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: complete influence? Yun ang

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01:07:47.600 --> 01:07:49.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kinatatakutan natin

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01:07:49.600 --> 01:07:51.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na maiipit ka talaga.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I don't think so,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I was appointed

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01:07:57.600 --> 01:07:59.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as secretary and by default,

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01:07:59.600 --> 01:08:01.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ako'y nalagay niyan as ex-officio.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tama. Doon sa

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01:08:03.600 --> 01:08:05.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: foundation, hindi sa PPI.

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01:08:05.600 --> 01:08:07.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang allegation na naririnig ko

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01:08:07.600 --> 01:08:09.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dati is recently,

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01:08:09.600 --> 01:08:11.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: katulad na rin ninyo, na ako

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01:08:11.600 --> 01:08:13.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang nag-nominate ng lahat

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01:08:13.600 --> 01:08:15.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng members

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng board.

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01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:19.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Actually, that is not true.

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01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:21.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero nandun eh. Yun talaga ang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: sinasabi sa...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang nag-nominate

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01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:25.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ko ng kalahati ng board before

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01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:27.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: my time is si

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01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:29.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Senior Usec

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pangaliban.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero tamang-tama yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: sinamin niyo. Ang nag-nominate,

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01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:35.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: gobyerno pa rin.

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01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:37.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Usec Pangaliban pa rin. Hindi po ba?

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01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:39.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pero hindi ako.

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01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:41.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero pareho pa rin yun eh.

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01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:42.970
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi... Para sa inyo ho.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Para sa akin.

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01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi para sa akin.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: The secretary and every member of

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: the cabinet is the alter ego of the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: president. And you're clearly

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01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:53.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: part of the government as the secretary

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01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:55.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: of agriculture. Unless

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: something's changed,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mr. Secretary, with all due

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: respect, gobyerno po kayo?

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01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:03.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Well, yes, gobyerno ko. But

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: again,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang may-ari ng PPI

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01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:09.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is... It was created

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01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:11.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I think in 1962.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, that's correct.

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01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:15.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And it was owned by farmers eh.

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01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:17.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's correct.

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01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:19.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: From what I understand,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung ownership ng farmers

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01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:23.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is being... Hinahanap na ngayon

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01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng PPI

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01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:27.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: through legal means kung sino yung

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01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:29.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: real owner niyan. As I said,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that company is unique

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01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:33.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: on its own. Yun na nga.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya hindi siya

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01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:37.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: under COA.

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01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:39.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sabihin na natin... Private entity siya

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01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:41.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as per Supreme Court.

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01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:43.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So...

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01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:45.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then I do not

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01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:47.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: do day-to-day functions

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01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:48.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: on that company.

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01:09:48.300 --> 01:09:49.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: O siyempre hindi kayo

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01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:51.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nagpapatakbo nun kasi may iba naman

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01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:53.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hindi ako nagpapatakbo nun at all.

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01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:55.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero ang maliwanag, kahit sabihin natin

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01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:57.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na debatable ang

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01:09:57.600 --> 01:09:59.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: status ng PFI at ng PPI,

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01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:01.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang maliwanag

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01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:03.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: eh talagang

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01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:05.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nakaupo kayo doon.

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01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:07.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi po ba?

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01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:07.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa pundasyon.

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01:10:07.900 --> 01:10:09.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sa pundasyon.

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01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:11.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Which owns 80% of the shares

asr-000883
01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:13.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in trust.

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01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:15.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 79% of the shares in trust.

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01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:17.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ayun na rin po yun.

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01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:19.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Anyway, PPI insists it's a private

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01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:21.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: corporation if it's true.

asr-000888
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:23.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Doesn't your involvement or

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01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:25.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: any DA official

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01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:27.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: previous or future

asr-000891
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:29.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in PPI's

asr-000892
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:31.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: corporate governance violate

asr-000893
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:33.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Section 7 of RA

asr-000894
01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:35.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 6713 prohibiting all

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01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:37.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: public officials from managing

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01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:39.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: or controlling private enterprises

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01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:41.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: regulated by

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01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:43.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: their own offices.

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01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:45.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kali yun yung regulator, kayo pa yung

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01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:47.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nagmamay-ari, kayo pa nagpapatakbo.

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01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:49.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Parang magulo ata yun.

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01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:51.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I would like to correct na hindi ako may-ari niyan?

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01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:53.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi. Ang gobyerno

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01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:55.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: may-ari effectively. Kahit

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01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:57.040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in trust pa yan. Kahit sabihin pa natin...

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01:10:57.040 --> 01:10:57.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Hindi.

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01:10:57.600 --> 01:10:59.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ano pwede natin sabihin na gobyerno

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01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:01.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may-ari yun yan dahil

asr-000908
01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:03.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the papers clearly say

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01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:05.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it is owned by farmers

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01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:07.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and we are just the trustee.

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01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And ah...

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01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:11.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Siguro kung magandang

asr-000913
01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:13.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: gumawa kayo ng batas na matanggal ang

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01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:15.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Secretary of Agriculture dyan sa

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01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:17.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: being ex-officio ng isang

asr-000916
01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:19.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kumpanya na yan, that would be

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01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:20.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: great.

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01:11:20.300 --> 01:11:21.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Maganda rin siguro

asr-000918
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:23.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kung kausapin ninyo yung

asr-000919
01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:25.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: GOCC kung bakit kayo

asr-000920
01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:27.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nalista pa rin bilang bahagi

asr-000921
01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:29.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng gobyerno.

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01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:31.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi klaro yun sa PPI.

asr-000923
01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:33.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So how can the public, para natin

asr-000924
01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:35.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: magagaranti ang tao na yung

asr-000925
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:37.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PPI hindi preferred

asr-000926
01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:39.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kapag ah...

asr-000927
01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:41.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang mga opisyal eh talagang

asr-000928
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:43.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ah...

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01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:45.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nandun. Eh ang

asr-000930
01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:47.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: klaro-klaro. Which is it?

asr-000931
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:49.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Is PPI a government

asr-000932
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:51.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: controlled corporation?

asr-000933
01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:53.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: In which case it's authority

asr-000934
01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:55.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to undertake rice importation,

asr-000935
01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:57.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is scrutinized and highly

asr-000936
01:11:57.600 --> 01:11:59.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: limited by law

asr-000937
01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:01.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ah... governing operations in

asr-000938
01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:03.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the government? Or is it a private

asr-000939
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:05.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: corporation? In which case

asr-000940
01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:07.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the involvement of the Secretary,

asr-000941
01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:09.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: not you personally, but

asr-000942
01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:11.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the government in general,

asr-000943
01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:13.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in its management

asr-000944
01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:15.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: raises very serious

asr-000945
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:17.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: constitutional and conflict

asr-000946
01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:19.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: of interest concerns.

asr-000947
01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:21.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Magiging magulo eh. Yun ang problema

asr-000948
01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:23.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kasi. Ah...

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01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:25.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, hindi ako abogado.

asr-000950
01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:27.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But ah...

asr-000951
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:29.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bilang layman lang,

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01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:31.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tingin kong pinakamataas

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01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:33.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na hukuman dito sa ating

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01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:35.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bansa ay Supreme Court.

asr-000955
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:37.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At ah... base sa decision ng

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01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:39.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Supreme Court, na nakita ko,

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01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:41.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I don't know, I don't follow the details,

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01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:43.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the Supreme Court declared it

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01:12:43.600 --> 01:12:45.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as a private entity.

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01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:47.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tama. So...

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01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:49.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I cannot...

asr-000962
01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:51.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I cannot be...

asr-000963
01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:53.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ayaw ang mga abogado.

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01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:55.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: No, Secretary,

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01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:57.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I'm not asking for an answer this minute.

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01:12:57.600 --> 01:12:59.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero I agree with you. Doon sa PPI

asr-000967
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:01.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: versus Fertifil Corporation,

asr-000968
01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:03.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang problema 2008 yun.

asr-000969
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:05.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung bagong batas

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01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:07.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na pinagbabawal ang importasyon

asr-000971
01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:09.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: eh pumasok lang noong 2011.

asr-000972
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:11.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya medyo

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01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:13.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: malabo na talaga yung status

asr-000974
01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:15.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kung tutuusin. Ngayon,

asr-000975
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:17.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: binanggit ninyo na yung PPI

asr-000976
01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:19.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: shares are held in trust

asr-000977
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:21.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: by the foundation.

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01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:23.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung 79.9%, eh

asr-000979
01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:25.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in trust. And yung PFI

asr-000980
01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:27.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: doesn't own the actual shares.

asr-000981
01:13:27.600 --> 01:13:29.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So ang tanong, who owns

asr-000982
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:31.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the shares of PPI?

asr-000983
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:33.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Is it not under LOI

asr-000984
01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:35.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 178, March

asr-000985
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:37.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 1974, yung

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01:13:37.600 --> 01:13:39.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PPI shares, sabi nga

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01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:41.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ninyo, held by the PFI

asr-000988
01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:43.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: where the

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01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:45.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Secretary sits, should eventually

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01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:47.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: disperse to their true

asr-000991
01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:49.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: owners, tulad ng binanggit ninyo,

asr-000992
01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:51.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung fertilizer end user,

asr-000993
01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:53.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung mismong farmer. Ang

asr-000994
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:55.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: tanong, bakit hanggang ngayon hindi pa

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01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:57.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na pamimigay yung mga

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01:13:57.600 --> 01:13:59.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: shares niyan?

asr-000997
01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:01.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Actually, Mr. Chair, kami lang

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01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:03.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before you answer, we'd just like to place

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01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:05.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on record and acknowledge the presence

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01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:07.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the Chairman of the Committee on Finance,

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01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:09.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sen. Javier Hercito, and our

asr-001002
01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:11.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: majority leader, Sen. Migs Zubiri.

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01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:15.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, sir.

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01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:17.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, for so

asr-001005
01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:19.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: many years, since 1962 nga,

asr-001006
01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:21.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nandyan yung PPI. It is

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01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:23.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: only during my administration

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01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:25.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na inaayos namin lahat yan,

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01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:27.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: inaayos. There is

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01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:29.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: now an active search ngayon

asr-001011
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:31.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to identify sino ba talaga yung mga

asr-001012
01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:33.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: beneficial owners or owners

asr-001013
01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:35.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: on record niyan. Malamang nga

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01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:37.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: since 1962 pa ho yan, baka

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01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:39.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: majority diyan, baka

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01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:41.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: patay na.

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01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:43.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ayun na nga, pero may

asr-001018
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:45.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: mga heirs naman yan, may successors naman yan.

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01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:47.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I cannot

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01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:48.470
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: speak for that.

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01:14:48.470 --> 01:14:49.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: No, I understand.

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01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:51.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I'm not asking you naman,

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01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:53.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I just want to

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01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:55.080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: explain right now. Ang tanong lang,

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01:14:55.080 --> 01:14:57.220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the shares have remained undistributed

asr-001025
01:14:57.220 --> 01:14:58.580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for 52 years.

asr-001026
01:14:58.580 --> 01:14:59.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And the government

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01:14:59.920 --> 01:15:03.040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: continues effectively to hold them

asr-001028
01:15:03.040 --> 01:15:06.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: whether they are nominally in trust or not.

asr-001029
01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:10.940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And PPI continues to be part and parcel

asr-001030
01:15:10.940 --> 01:15:13.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: of the GOCC listing.

asr-001031
01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:15.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya napakalabo kapag nag-i-import

asr-001032
01:15:15.900 --> 01:15:18.180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang PPI ng katakot-takot na bigas.

asr-001033
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:21.440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: On that note, may I ask

asr-001034
01:15:21.440 --> 01:15:25.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for the rice importation data of the PPI

asr-001035
01:15:25.100 --> 01:15:27.180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for the last 10 years, please.

asr-001036
01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:28.940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Before plenary, sana po.

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01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

asr-001038
01:15:32.420 --> 01:15:34.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For sure, we will ask BPI

asr-001039
01:15:34.200 --> 01:15:36.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to submit the list to you, Mr. Chair.

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01:15:37.020 --> 01:15:39.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Okay, thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

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01:15:39.440 --> 01:15:40.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, thank you.

asr-001042
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:41.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Exacto.

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01:15:42.500 --> 01:15:44.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 10 minutes for your first round.

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01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:49.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you for that, Senator Aimee.

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01:15:49.700 --> 01:15:51.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We now proceed with the Senate President

asr-001046
01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:54.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for his questions.

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01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:57.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Senate President Nguyen.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Mr. Chairman, I would

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I saw earlier that

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Senator Irwin came in earlier than me

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: so I would wave my

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: my portion to him

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: so that he can propound his questions.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just for the record,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the tradition is that

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Senate President gets first crack

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but he is now yielding

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: his first crack to

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: our colleague, Senator Irwin Tulfo.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Thank you, Senate President Nguyen.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator Tulfo.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Thank you, Mr. Senate President

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01:16:34.100 --> 01:16:37.960
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: for giving way, sir,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: to let me ask questions first.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Secretary,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kanina po sa presentation ho ninyo

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01:16:44.700 --> 01:16:46.000
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: nabanggit ho ninyo

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01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.000
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: isa sa mga problema natin

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01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:51.880
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ay ito pong shrinking agricultural land po natin

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01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:53.820
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kasi marami na pong binibenta

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01:16:53.820 --> 01:16:54.800
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ng mga lupain

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: in exchange for tinatayuan

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01:16:58.060 --> 01:16:59.140
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ng mga factory subdivision

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: semiteryo.

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01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:03.560
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sir, malaking may tutulong ba

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: pag may pasan na ang National Land Use Act

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01:17:06.140 --> 01:17:08.300
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: para sa mga ikang

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01:17:08.300 --> 01:17:09.900
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: mapigil

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01:17:09.900 --> 01:17:12.300
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ang ikang pagliit

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ng agricultural lands?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, yes.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That is one of the most important things

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: para sa amin sa Department of Agriculture

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na mapasan na ho niya

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang Land Use Act na yan.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Alright.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Isa pa ho kanina, nabanggit yun sa presentation po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ninyo yung kaya po mahal

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01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:34.300
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: yung production po ng rice natin

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: at ang ibang food

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: dahil po sa mga fertilizers po

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01:17:39.020 --> 01:17:40.020
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: na high cost.

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01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:41.740
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Tanong ho natin,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: 100% po ba we're depending

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: on fertilizer importation?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Hindi po ba meron din tayo mga

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: locally produced mga fertilizers

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: sa Secretary?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Lahat po ng, Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lahat ng component ng fertilizer

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng inorganic is,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lahat naman lahat,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maybe 90 plus percent

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is imported.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So mixing lang,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung meron man tinatawag na manufacturing

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa Pilipinas nito,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it's just mixing of the raw material

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that is still imported,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Alright, thank you.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Let me now go,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I don't know if kayo po ang sasagot

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: sa Laurel or ang BIFAR.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kahapon nga po nabanggit ko,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I was in Marinduque,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: tapos a few months ago,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I was over there in Palawan,

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: nandito nga po ang mga

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: mayors po natin.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ito nga po naging desisyon po

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: sa Mercedar Fishing Corporation case.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ano po ang ginagawa ngayon

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ng Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: para maprotektahan po ang ating

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: malilitamang isda

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: laban po sa pagpasok ng commercial

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: fishing vessels sa municipal waters?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Meron na po bang

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: i-final a motion for reconsideration

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: dito ang BIFAR? Ano na po ang status

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: dito ngayon?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I would like to request the BIFAR

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to answer yung detalya no,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kasi di ako updated masyado.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Yes, go ahead po.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Good morning, Mr. Chair.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: With the indulgence of our

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Secretary,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: as to the BIFAR po,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: we already filed a motion for

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: reconsideration regarding

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the case for

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Mercedar case,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ano ho naging problema dito, Sir?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I mean, paano ho?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Hindi ho makapaniwala ang mga fisher folks natin.

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01:19:29.500 --> 01:19:31.820
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Pati po ang mga mayors natin

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01:19:31.820 --> 01:19:33.500
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: na bakit ho nakalusot ito

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01:19:34.160 --> 01:19:35.360
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: at ikaw ang

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: nadesisyonan ng

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: KORTET, kinatigan

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01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:40.980
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: itong malaking kumpanya.

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01:19:41.540 --> 01:19:42.700
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Ano ho nangyari dito?

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Can you explain to us para

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: maintindihan po para itong mga

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: mayors po na nakikinig sa atin?

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01:19:49.200 --> 01:19:51.540
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Parang nalusutan ho tayo yata, Sir.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Let me,

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01:19:53.940 --> 01:19:55.360
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: allow me, Mr. Chair,

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01:19:55.480 --> 01:19:57.640
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: to read the material proceedings of the

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01:19:57.640 --> 01:19:59.480
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: case. So, on 11th,

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01:19:59.500 --> 01:20:01.720
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: December 2023, the RTC declared

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01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:03.640
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the challenge is statutory and regulatory

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01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:05.880
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: provisions unconstitutional,

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01:20:06.580 --> 01:20:07.840
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: prohibited their enforcement

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01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:09.860
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: against Mercedar Fishing

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01:20:09.860 --> 01:20:11.620
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Corporation, and allowed

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01:20:11.620 --> 01:20:13.680
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: MFC to operate without regard to

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the 15-kilometer

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01:20:16.480 --> 01:20:17.700
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: limit subject

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01:20:17.700 --> 01:20:19.620
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: to the specified depth condition.

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01:20:20.340 --> 01:20:21.480
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: On January 2024,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the Republic, through the Office of

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01:20:23.560 --> 01:20:25.020
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Solicitor General,

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01:20:26.020 --> 01:20:27.580
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: filed a petition for review

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01:20:27.580 --> 01:20:29.340
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: and certiorary before the Supreme Court,

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01:20:29.500 --> 01:20:31.340
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: challenging the RTC ruling

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01:20:31.340 --> 01:20:32.620
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: and raising procedural

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01:20:32.620 --> 01:20:35.440
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: jurisdictional and

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01:20:35.440 --> 01:20:36.560
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: substantial grounds.

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01:20:37.140 --> 01:20:38.600
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: And on August 2024,

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01:20:39.340 --> 01:20:40.520
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the Supreme Court First

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01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:43.480
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Division denied the Republic's

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: petition and affirmed the RTC

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: ruling, citing the late filing

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01:20:47.480 --> 01:20:49.300
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: of the petition and the failure

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: to establish reversible error.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: And on January 2025,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the OSG filed a motion for

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: reconsideration, arguing that the

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: procedural rules should be relaxed

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01:20:59.180 --> 01:21:01.200
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: in view of the constitutional issues

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: and public interest involved.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: The OSG requested the referral

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01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:07.400
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: of the case to the Supreme Court and

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Bank, and in July 2025,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the Supreme Court

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01:21:11.040 --> 01:21:11.880
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: consolidated

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01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:15.340
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the cases

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01:21:15.340 --> 01:21:17.260
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: and transferred

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01:21:17.260 --> 01:21:19.160
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the consolidated cases to the

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01:21:19.160 --> 01:21:21.100
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: First Division for ununified

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01:21:21.100 --> 01:21:23.200
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: disposition of the case, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: So, what is the status? We are waiting

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: for the decisions

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01:21:26.280 --> 01:21:29.160
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: of the Supreme Court.

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01:21:29.180 --> 01:21:29.820
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: The Supreme Court Division?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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01:21:32.320 --> 01:21:35.120
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: We already filed through OSG

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01:21:35.120 --> 01:21:37.260
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the motion for reconsideration

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01:21:37.260 --> 01:21:38.940
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: of the case, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Rewind po tayo nabang itunin niyo

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: procedural lapses. Kaya po tayo natalo

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: dahil sa procedural lapses.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sino po may kasalanan?

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01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:49.360
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: At pinag-antay, nag-lapse po yung panahon

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: para sumagot po tayo.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Saan ho nagkulang? Kayo ho ba yun

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: o ang OSG na

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: hinayaan ho ninyong mag-lapse

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: yung panahon? Kasi tingin po ng

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ilan, parang pinabayaan

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: ho ninyo na nag-lapse.

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01:22:03.080 --> 01:22:04.760
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Parang sinadya na nag-lapse. Kasi

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01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:06.900
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kung tututuusin po,

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01:22:07.120 --> 01:22:09.280
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kung hindi po natalo lang po

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01:22:09.280 --> 01:22:11.040
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: tayo dahil yung panahon

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01:22:11.040 --> 01:22:14.220
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: na nag-expire na po

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01:22:14.220 --> 01:22:15.560
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: para sumagot.

asr-001236
01:22:15.980 --> 01:22:17.160
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kaya nag-ruling po yung

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01:22:17.160 --> 01:22:19.180
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: korte in favor doon sa Mercedar.

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01:22:20.460 --> 01:22:22.140
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sir, ano nangyari sa

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01:22:22.140 --> 01:22:23.840
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: abang abogado natin dyan

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01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:25.520
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: sa BIFAR? Pero naman siguro

asr-001241
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:27.680
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kay legal department o ano, Sir?

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01:22:28.020 --> 01:22:29.000
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-001243
01:22:29.180 --> 01:22:30.940
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: There is a legal division po of the

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01:22:30.940 --> 01:22:32.800
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Bureau of Fisheries handling the cases po.

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01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:33.860
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Okay, what happened there?

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01:22:34.180 --> 01:22:36.940
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: What happened, I think, Your Honor, if I'm not mistaken,

asr-001247
01:22:37.260 --> 01:22:38.180
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: correct me if I'm wrong,

asr-001248
01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:41.220
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: there was two decisions,

asr-001249
01:22:41.340 --> 01:22:43.040
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: I think, rendered by the

asr-001250
01:22:43.040 --> 01:22:45.180
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: RTC. And the one that was

asr-001251
01:22:45.180 --> 01:22:49.740
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the one that was

asr-001252
01:22:49.740 --> 01:22:52.560
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: replied by BIFAR

asr-001253
01:22:52.560 --> 01:22:54.460
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: for the motion was

asr-001254
01:22:54.460 --> 01:22:57.260
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: not given into

asr-001255
01:22:57.260 --> 01:22:59.060
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: consideration, but the other one,

asr-001256
01:22:59.180 --> 01:23:04.840
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: was, yun po yung nabigyan ng ano, ng hindi po nabigyan ng RTC po.

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01:23:04.940 --> 01:23:07.000
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: So that's, I think, the procedural

asr-001258
01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:09.020
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: infirmities po na nangyari,

asr-001259
01:23:09.300 --> 01:23:10.280
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Your Honor, Mr. Chair.

asr-001260
01:23:10.720 --> 01:23:12.120
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Pero on the part of BIFAR,

asr-001261
01:23:12.540 --> 01:23:16.000
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: we filed

asr-001262
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:17.380
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: the case

asr-001263
01:23:17.380 --> 01:23:19.760
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: on time, but

asr-001264
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:21.700
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: there are two dispositions

asr-001265
01:23:21.700 --> 01:23:23.800
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: of the cases

asr-001266
01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:25.800
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: that were supposedly to be

asr-001267
01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:27.860
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: adjudicated by the RTC.

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01:23:27.860 --> 01:23:29.160
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: But unfortunately, Your Honor,

asr-001269
01:23:29.180 --> 01:23:31.400
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Mr. Chair, it was the one

asr-001270
01:23:31.400 --> 01:23:33.180
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: that we, the one that

asr-001271
01:23:33.180 --> 01:23:35.260
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: for this motion

asr-001272
01:23:35.260 --> 01:23:36.920
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: for reconsideration in the Supreme Court

asr-001273
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:39.500
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: was not given consideration,

asr-001274
01:23:39.660 --> 01:23:39.940
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Your Honor.

asr-001275
01:23:40.060 --> 01:23:42.820
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Anong motion for reconsideration po yung sinasabi ho ninyo?

asr-001276
01:23:44.500 --> 01:23:45.400
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: What motion

asr-001277
01:23:45.400 --> 01:23:46.920
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: for reconsideration is this?

asr-001278
01:23:47.860 --> 01:23:48.420
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Can we

asr-001279
01:23:48.420 --> 01:23:51.360
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sige po, papuntahin nyo pala, pitin nyo.

asr-001280
01:23:51.460 --> 01:23:52.960
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Can we call po our

asr-001281
01:23:52.960 --> 01:23:54.480
BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Chief Legal Division, Your Honor?

asr-001282
01:23:55.100 --> 01:23:57.160
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: The mayors are not buying

asr-001283
01:23:57.160 --> 01:23:58.500
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: that answer.

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01:23:59.180 --> 01:24:01.600
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: The assistant director

asr-001285
01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:03.820
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: na only because

asr-001286
01:24:03.820 --> 01:24:05.300
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: of procedural lapses,

asr-001287
01:24:05.500 --> 01:24:07.320
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: natalo yung mga ilang

asr-001288
01:24:07.320 --> 01:24:09.660
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: libong fishermen natin. And I don't

asr-001289
01:24:09.660 --> 01:24:11.240
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: buy that either. Na

asr-001290
01:24:11.240 --> 01:24:13.120
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: tanalo tayo, procedure.

asr-001291
01:24:13.500 --> 01:24:15.760
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Uso ho yan ganun na

asr-001292
01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:17.940
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: nag-a, nadidilay,

asr-001293
01:24:18.020 --> 01:24:19.640
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: natatalo tayo dahil sa technical

asr-001294
01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:21.440
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: lang. Go ahead.

asr-001295
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:23.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before the, before you

asr-001296
01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:25.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: answer the, from

asr-001297
01:24:25.540 --> 01:24:27.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: BIFAR, just for the information of our

asr-001298
01:24:27.500 --> 01:24:28.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: colleagues,

asr-001299
01:24:29.180 --> 01:24:31.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: actually what happened here based on

asr-001300
01:24:31.620 --> 01:24:33.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the timeline,

asr-001301
01:24:35.260 --> 01:24:35.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the

asr-001302
01:24:35.400 --> 01:24:37.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mercadar Fishing Corporation,

asr-001303
01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:39.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they filed a case at RTC

asr-001304
01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:40.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Malabon

asr-001305
01:24:40.240 --> 01:24:43.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in October 5.

asr-001306
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:45.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: By November 10,

asr-001307
01:24:45.680 --> 01:24:47.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 2023, the OSG

asr-001308
01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:49.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: asked RTC Malabon for more

asr-001309
01:24:49.700 --> 01:24:50.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: time to respond.

asr-001310
01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:52.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then,

asr-001311
01:24:52.580 --> 01:24:54.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: by December 7,

asr-001312
01:24:55.480 --> 01:24:57.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: less than a month later,

asr-001313
01:24:57.640 --> 01:24:59.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: about a month later, RTC

asr-001314
01:24:59.020 --> 01:25:01.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Malabon, the judge, moved forward

asr-001315
01:25:01.480 --> 01:25:03.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: without the OSG's

asr-001316
01:25:03.480 --> 01:25:05.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: response, allowing

asr-001317
01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:07.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: only Mercadar to present

asr-001318
01:25:07.480 --> 01:25:09.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: its side. So, dun palang

asr-001319
01:25:09.620 --> 01:25:11.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa RTC Malabon,

asr-001320
01:25:12.140 --> 01:25:13.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang balita ko rito, retired

asr-001321
01:25:13.500 --> 01:25:14.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na tong judge na ito eh, pero

asr-001322
01:25:14.980 --> 01:25:17.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bakit hindi binigyan

asr-001323
01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:19.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng pagkakataon ng

asr-001324
01:25:19.460 --> 01:25:21.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: OSG mag-respond? Yun ang isa rin

asr-001325
01:25:21.300 --> 01:25:23.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tanong. And then, on December 11,

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01:25:24.160 --> 01:25:25.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: RTC Malabon ruled

asr-001327
01:25:25.740 --> 01:25:27.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that giving small

asr-001328
01:25:27.320 --> 01:25:29.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: fissures and LGU

asr-001329
01:25:29.620 --> 01:25:31.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: control over municipal waters

asr-001330
01:25:31.480 --> 01:25:32.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is unconstitutional.

asr-001331
01:25:34.560 --> 01:25:35.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then,

asr-001332
01:25:35.580 --> 01:25:37.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on December 20 of the same

asr-001333
01:25:37.480 --> 01:25:39.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: year, 2023, or about

asr-001334
01:25:39.660 --> 01:25:40.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nine days later,

asr-001335
01:25:42.440 --> 01:25:43.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the OSG requested

asr-001336
01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:45.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or filed a motion,

asr-001337
01:25:46.040 --> 01:25:47.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I suppose, to reconsider the decision,

asr-001338
01:25:48.380 --> 01:25:50.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but the RTC Malabon

asr-001339
01:25:50.060 --> 01:25:50.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: rejected it.

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01:25:52.860 --> 01:25:53.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun ang

asr-001341
01:25:53.340 --> 01:25:55.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dun palang sa RTC,

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01:25:57.320 --> 01:25:59.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: katakatakang

asr-001343
01:25:59.580 --> 01:26:01.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: parang minadali, no?

asr-001344
01:26:02.240 --> 01:26:03.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But having said that,

asr-001345
01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:06.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: go ahead. What is your name,

asr-001346
01:26:06.180 --> 01:26:06.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: please, on record?

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01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:10.240
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Actually,

asr-001348
01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:11.720
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: during the last time we...

asr-001349
01:26:11.720 --> 01:26:13.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We didn't hear your name.

asr-001350
01:26:13.640 --> 01:26:15.620
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Attorney Roberto Buazon, po.

asr-001351
01:26:15.980 --> 01:26:17.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bu? Buason.

asr-001352
01:26:17.380 --> 01:26:18.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Buason, okay. Please answer.

asr-001353
01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:21.220
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: I already discussed, Mr. Chair,

asr-001354
01:26:21.380 --> 01:26:22.720
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: during the last time we met,

asr-001355
01:26:23.220 --> 01:26:25.500
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: that this is a

asr-001356
01:26:25.500 --> 01:26:27.100
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: petition for declaratorily,

asr-001357
01:26:27.320 --> 01:26:28.800
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: with prayer for issuance

asr-001358
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:30.500
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: of TRO. On

asr-001359
01:26:30.500 --> 01:26:32.800
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: October 25, they filed.

asr-001360
01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:35.040
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: And then, on November

asr-001361
01:26:35.040 --> 01:26:36.840
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: 10, there was a hearing

asr-001362
01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:38.740
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: on the TRO. During

asr-001363
01:26:38.740 --> 01:26:40.700
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: that time, the OSG,

asr-001364
01:26:40.940 --> 01:26:42.940
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: who is the Council of BIPAR,

asr-001365
01:26:43.280 --> 01:26:44.800
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: asked for a motion for

asr-001366
01:26:44.800 --> 01:26:45.280
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: extension.

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01:26:46.340 --> 01:26:47.920
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I'm sorry, po,

asr-001368
01:26:48.020 --> 01:26:50.400
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: attorney. Sino po itong

asr-001369
01:26:50.400 --> 01:26:52.720
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: judge na ito ng RTC na Malabon?

asr-001370
01:26:52.780 --> 01:26:53.380
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: What's his name?

asr-001371
01:26:53.980 --> 01:26:56.640
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Actually, I was not...

asr-001372
01:26:56.640 --> 01:26:57.240
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Sino po ba?

asr-001373
01:26:57.320 --> 01:26:58.960
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: I was not around during that time, po, po.

asr-001374
01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:01.180
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I would like to get his name, para ho.

asr-001375
01:27:01.260 --> 01:27:03.540
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Do you submit the name to this committee

asr-001376
01:27:03.540 --> 01:27:05.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that we can provide the senator

asr-001377
01:27:05.440 --> 01:27:06.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tool for?

asr-001378
01:27:06.360 --> 01:27:08.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I also want to know who these judges.

asr-001379
01:27:09.020 --> 01:27:09.360
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Yes, po.

asr-001380
01:27:09.360 --> 01:27:11.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero ang balita ko, retired na eh.

asr-001381
01:27:11.360 --> 01:27:13.840
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: It doesn't matter, Mr. Chair,

asr-001382
01:27:13.980 --> 01:27:15.000
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kasi para naman,

asr-001383
01:27:15.220 --> 01:27:17.320
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: hindi naman po pwedeng gano'n. Malinaw po

asr-001384
01:27:17.320 --> 01:27:19.140
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: sa sikat ng araw kung ano ho dapat

asr-001385
01:27:19.140 --> 01:27:21.160
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: maging desisyon. I mean, making

asr-001386
01:27:21.160 --> 01:27:23.120
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: decisions na hindi pa na-aantayin yung

asr-001387
01:27:23.120 --> 01:27:25.240
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: kabilang panig. Mukhang mali naman ho

asr-001388
01:27:25.240 --> 01:27:26.800
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: yata. Hindi ho ako bagado, pero

asr-001389
01:27:27.320 --> 01:27:29.040
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: dapat ho, eh, pinakinggan ho.

asr-001390
01:27:29.160 --> 01:27:31.320
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Kaya nga, I want to get the name

asr-001391
01:27:31.320 --> 01:27:33.260
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: of that retired judge. Correct, po.

asr-001392
01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:35.280
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Tapos eh, ano ho, naging action ho ninyo

asr-001393
01:27:35.280 --> 01:27:37.100
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: nung hindi kayo pinagbigyan? What did you do

asr-001394
01:27:37.100 --> 01:27:38.030
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: immediately after?

asr-001394-split-2
01:27:38.030 --> 01:27:39.540
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Actually, we filed

asr-001395
01:27:39.540 --> 01:27:41.100
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: a... During that time,

asr-001396
01:27:41.280 --> 01:27:43.100
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: it was only an oral

asr-001397
01:27:43.100 --> 01:27:45.560
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: motion. So, on the last

asr-001398
01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:46.900
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: day, we filed a

asr-001399
01:27:46.900 --> 01:27:49.320
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: written motion for extension to

asr-001400
01:27:49.320 --> 01:27:51.060
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: file an answer. But,

asr-001401
01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:53.660
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: be that as may,

asr-001402
01:27:54.300 --> 01:27:55.480
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: nagkaroon na po kagad

asr-001403
01:27:55.480 --> 01:27:56.920
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: ng resolusyon ng judge,

asr-001404
01:27:57.320 --> 01:27:58.040
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: to

asr-001405
01:27:58.040 --> 01:28:01.000
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: order for

asr-001406
01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:02.840
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: default. May motion for

asr-001407
01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:05.000
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: extension. So, there is an irregularity

asr-001408
01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:06.800
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: in the procedure. Ganon po ang nangyari.

asr-001409
01:28:07.240 --> 01:28:08.680
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: So, yung mga succeeding

asr-001410
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:10.880
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: dates na nangyari,

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: even in the filing for petition for

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: review on certiorari, nagkaroon

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01:28:14.820 --> 01:28:16.600
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: ng irregularity. Ganon po ang nangyari.

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: So, we filed,

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01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:20.860
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: we assailed that error

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01:28:20.860 --> 01:28:22.620
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: in our motion for

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01:28:22.620 --> 01:28:24.780
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: reconsideration. So, we are waiting

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: for the resolution.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Sure.

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Sa SC ngayon, yan, naka-pending.

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01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:31.260
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Parang first

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01:28:31.260 --> 01:28:33.000
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: division po yan.

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01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:35.400
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: But, there is a motion

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01:28:35.400 --> 01:28:37.360
BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: para mapunta sa NBANG.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Alright.

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: Because it is a question of

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BFAR Legal Division Chief Atty. Roberto M. Buazon: constitutionality po.

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01:28:43.280 --> 01:28:45.400
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Yeah, I understand po. Mukhang may

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01:28:45.400 --> 01:28:47.520
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: naging problema po talaga doon pa lang sa baba.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Yung pagkatig po kagad ng judge

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: doon po sa kumpanya.

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01:28:51.400 --> 01:28:53.680
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: Anyway, I will reserve

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: my second round of questioning.

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01:28:56.120 --> 01:28:56.920
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: It's okay.

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01:28:57.320 --> 01:28:58.260
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: I just reserved my

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01:28:58.260 --> 01:29:01.560
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: second round lang, Mr. Chet, to give way to other

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01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:02.860
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: senators or president.

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Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: And I would like to thank the Senate president

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01:29:05.020 --> 01:29:06.620
Senator Erwin T. Tulfo: for allowing me to go ahead.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, thank you. Just for the information

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01:29:09.540 --> 01:29:11.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of our colleagues and for the record,

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01:29:12.200 --> 01:29:13.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the presiding judge

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01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:15.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at that time,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and I understand he's now retired,

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01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:19.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Branch 170,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: RTC Malabon,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Judge

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Zaldi Docena,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for the record.

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01:29:27.320 --> 01:29:30.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, we can now proceed

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with the questions of our Senate

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: President. Go ahead,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senate President

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nguyen.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Mr.

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01:29:38.260 --> 01:29:38.660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Chairman.

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01:29:39.640 --> 01:29:41.780
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Mr. Chairman, let me start off with

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01:29:41.780 --> 01:29:44.000
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: something that will

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01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:45.520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: be

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01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:47.840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: hitting us

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01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:49.420
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: or have already hit us.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And this is El Nino, Mr. Secretary.

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01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:51.920
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Secretary.

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01:29:54.320 --> 01:29:55.960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I'll flash the slide.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Slide 25.

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01:29:57.320 --> 01:29:59.320
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So far...

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01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:01.340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: agricultural damage

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: for El Nino or related to

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01:30:03.900 --> 01:30:05.640
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: El Nino is about

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 6.8

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01:30:06.740 --> 01:30:08.680
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: billion pesos

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01:30:08.680 --> 01:30:12.040
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: of which about 163

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01:30:12.040 --> 01:30:13.980
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: metric tons of

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01:30:13.980 --> 01:30:15.820
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: agricultural

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01:30:15.820 --> 01:30:18.220
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: products ang naapektuhan

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01:30:18.220 --> 01:30:19.840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: of which about

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01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:21.840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 249 hectares ang

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01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:25.840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: naapektuhan itong

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01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:27.820
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: El Nino. So this is so far palang

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01:30:27.820 --> 01:30:29.120
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: as of September 30

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01:30:29.120 --> 01:30:31.940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and as we can

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01:30:31.940 --> 01:30:33.120
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: actually all feel

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01:30:33.120 --> 01:30:35.600
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: normally pag ganitong

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01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:37.660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: October maulan eh pero ngayon

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01:30:37.660 --> 01:30:38.680
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: hindi na umuulan

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01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:41.280
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: pabugso-bugso na lang ang ulan

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01:30:41.280 --> 01:30:43.740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: so I would like to get a

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01:30:43.740 --> 01:30:45.840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: briefing from the good secretary

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01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:47.760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: on their

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01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:49.580
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: forecast on El Nino

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01:30:49.580 --> 01:30:51.880
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: in relation to agriculture

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01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:53.360
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and then

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01:30:53.360 --> 01:30:55.900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ano ang mga contingency

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01:30:55.900 --> 01:30:57.680
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: measures na ginagawa natin

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01:30:57.680 --> 01:30:59.100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and also

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01:30:59.100 --> 01:31:00.940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: related to the budget

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01:31:00.940 --> 01:31:02.300
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ano ba yung mga

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01:31:02.300 --> 01:31:05.460
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: budgetary components

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01:31:05.460 --> 01:31:07.600
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: na makakatulong

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01:31:07.600 --> 01:31:09.860
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: maibsan yung

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01:31:09.860 --> 01:31:11.460
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: epekto ng El Nino sa

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01:31:11.460 --> 01:31:13.580
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: agriculture sector. We'll just focus on the

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01:31:13.580 --> 01:31:15.180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: agriculture sector. We're not

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01:31:15.180 --> 01:31:17.760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: yun ang ating topic

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01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:18.660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: on hand right now.

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01:31:19.100 --> 01:31:21.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, one question lang. Is it for

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01:31:21.460 --> 01:31:23.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 2026 or 2027?

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01:31:23.260 --> 01:31:25.120
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: For 2027. Onward.

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01:31:26.060 --> 01:31:27.480
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: The remaining year

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01:31:27.480 --> 01:31:29.060
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: until 2027.

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01:31:29.100 --> 01:31:30.380
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: According to

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01:31:30.380 --> 01:31:34.460
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Pag-asa, the weather forecaster

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01:31:34.460 --> 01:31:36.140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and some experts, it will persist

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01:31:36.140 --> 01:31:38.260
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: until mid of 2027.

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01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:40.300
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But these things can change.

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01:31:40.480 --> 01:31:41.940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Sabi nyo nga kanina sa opening statement,

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01:31:42.100 --> 01:31:44.200
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: yung one thing the EA cannot do

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01:31:44.200 --> 01:31:45.160
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: is predict the weather

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01:31:45.160 --> 01:31:48.360
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: or stop the weather.

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01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:48.960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So

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01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:52.100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: but let's take

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01:31:52.100 --> 01:31:54.060
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: the word of the forecasters

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01:31:54.060 --> 01:31:55.820
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: until mid of 2027

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01:31:55.820 --> 01:31:58.020
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and alam natin na

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01:31:58.020 --> 01:31:58.940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: one of the

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01:31:59.100 --> 01:32:01.240
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: direct hit dito sa El Nino will be the

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: agriculture sector. So just give us

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01:32:03.120 --> 01:32:06.040
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: your forecast,

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01:32:06.260 --> 01:32:08.120
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: your forecast

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01:32:08.120 --> 01:32:09.300
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: in terms of agricultural

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01:32:09.300 --> 01:32:11.740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: impact and then ano may

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01:32:11.740 --> 01:32:13.660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: mga mitigating measures

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01:32:13.660 --> 01:32:15.580
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and then also in the budget

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01:32:15.580 --> 01:32:18.040
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: what are the components in the budget

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01:32:18.040 --> 01:32:19.660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: that will address the

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01:32:19.660 --> 01:32:21.380
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: impact of El Nino and

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01:32:21.380 --> 01:32:23.560
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: if you have any suggestions

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01:32:23.560 --> 01:32:25.780
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: on what components also

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01:32:25.780 --> 01:32:27.820
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: we can improve so that we can

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01:32:27.820 --> 01:32:28.340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: further

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01:32:28.340 --> 01:32:31.100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: mitigate the impact of El Nino.

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01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:33.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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01:32:33.500 --> 01:32:34.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Basically, El Nino

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01:32:34.960 --> 01:32:36.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: will hit us.

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01:32:37.160 --> 01:32:38.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang kasagsagan ng El Nino

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01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:40.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ay nadelay na.

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01:32:40.580 --> 01:32:42.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nadelay nung una, November

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01:32:42.120 --> 01:32:43.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dapat 2026.

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01:32:44.080 --> 01:32:46.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then the latest forecast is

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01:32:46.180 --> 01:32:47.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na move siya ang January,

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01:32:48.620 --> 01:32:49.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: February and March

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01:32:49.820 --> 01:32:52.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maybe until April of next year.

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01:32:52.880 --> 01:32:54.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So what the DA is

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01:32:54.420 --> 01:32:55.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: doing now is

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01:32:55.340 --> 01:32:58.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fast tracking yung aming deployment.

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01:32:58.340 --> 01:33:00.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So we have a lot of

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01:33:00.340 --> 01:33:01.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: solar water irrigation

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01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:03.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: projects.

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01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:06.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We had 1.6 billion

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01:33:06.140 --> 01:33:08.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: this year and mukhang madagdagan pa kami

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01:33:08.180 --> 01:33:10.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng OP. But for

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01:33:10.220 --> 01:33:12.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: next year, we are also requesting

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01:33:12.460 --> 01:33:14.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na madagdagan itong solar pumps,

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01:33:15.020 --> 01:33:15.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: solar

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01:33:15.380 --> 01:33:18.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: irrigation and for aquaculture

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01:33:18.340 --> 01:33:19.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: naman, mga solar driven

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01:33:19.940 --> 01:33:22.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: paddle wheels to keep the

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01:33:22.180 --> 01:33:22.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fishponds

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01:33:22.860 --> 01:33:25.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: aerated para

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01:33:25.140 --> 01:33:27.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mayroon pang oxygen ng isda para

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01:33:27.940 --> 01:33:28.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mabawa.

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01:33:28.340 --> 01:33:30.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pasa ng fish kill, pati sa mga lakes.

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01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:31.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Besides that,

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01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:34.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maa-affect ang poultry natin

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01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:35.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dahil kung mainit ng panahon,

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01:33:36.120 --> 01:33:37.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bumaba ba ang

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01:33:37.420 --> 01:33:40.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: production ng manok, baboy.

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01:33:41.780 --> 01:33:42.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Baboy usually

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01:33:42.740 --> 01:33:44.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pag summer mainit,

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01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:46.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mas bawas ang ASF.

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01:33:46.160 --> 01:33:48.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So it's a bit better. Problema lang sa

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01:33:48.240 --> 01:33:50.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: baboy is yung presyo. At ayusin

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01:33:50.440 --> 01:33:51.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ho natin yan.

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01:33:52.280 --> 01:33:54.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Water management is critical.

asr-001584
01:33:55.160 --> 01:33:56.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So we will

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01:33:56.420 --> 01:33:58.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: be doing alternate wet

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01:33:58.340 --> 01:34:00.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and dry systems sa ating mga

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01:34:00.220 --> 01:34:02.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in cooperation

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01:34:02.820 --> 01:34:04.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: with NIA to

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01:34:04.100 --> 01:34:06.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maximize the use of water.

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01:34:06.980 --> 01:34:08.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Of course, fertilizer support

asr-001591
01:34:08.740 --> 01:34:10.160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is badly needed.

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01:34:10.900 --> 01:34:11.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Dahil

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01:34:11.400 --> 01:34:14.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa taas ng fertilizer ngayon,

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01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:16.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kasi ano yan, as I said, perfect storm,

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01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:17.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tabay ang problema.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: The risk is under fertilization

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dahil people cannot afford

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fertilizer. Inbis na sampung

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bag ng fertilizer, lagay sa isang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hektarya dahil sa mahal ng fertilizer,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: baka limang bag na lang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang lagay ng ating mga magsasaka.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That's why if the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: government can give more fertilizers

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in forms of voucher

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01:34:38.080 --> 01:34:40.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or cash para hindi na kami mag-procure,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that would be the best at mabilis.

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01:34:43.100 --> 01:34:44.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So kung mabigyan kami ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: additional budget, kasi hindi naman sinatawag

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng El Nino, walang tubig lahat.

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01:34:48.480 --> 01:34:50.680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May areas din na maraming

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tubig or meron tubig.

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01:34:52.400 --> 01:34:53.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron lang talagang super dry.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa areas na maraming tubig naman

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or may tubig pa, dun ho tayo magbubuhay.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Most na mga fertilizer. Para dun naman

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01:35:00.200 --> 01:35:02.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: increase ang production.

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01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:04.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So that holds

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: also for corn and other high value

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01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:08.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: crops. Of course

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01:35:08.600 --> 01:35:10.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: more money into

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01:35:10.480 --> 01:35:12.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: small water impounding will

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01:35:12.360 --> 01:35:15.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: really benefit

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01:35:15.040 --> 01:35:16.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: our farmers and

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01:35:16.480 --> 01:35:18.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fisher folks. Even sa ponds,

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01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:21.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pang palalim ng ponds, mga pond liners.

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01:35:22.360 --> 01:35:24.640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And these investments that we

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01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:26.680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: will make next year with the budget,

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01:35:27.300 --> 01:35:28.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ano na yan, that is getting,

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01:35:28.340 --> 01:35:30.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: our farmers and fisher folks

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01:35:30.420 --> 01:35:32.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ready para sa mga subsequent

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01:35:32.360 --> 01:35:34.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: El Nino's. Kasi dumadalas

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01:35:34.480 --> 01:35:36.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ho yan eh. Nung bata pa ako

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01:35:36.480 --> 01:35:38.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa fishing industry,

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01:35:38.940 --> 01:35:40.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: every 10 years lang ang El Nino.

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01:35:41.200 --> 01:35:42.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then naging every 5,

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01:35:42.240 --> 01:35:44.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 7, every 5, every 3 years.

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01:35:45.300 --> 01:35:46.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung pagpasok ko ho dito

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01:35:46.540 --> 01:35:47.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa DA,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 2023, November,

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01:35:50.220 --> 01:35:52.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 2024, El Nino kagadang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang simulubong

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ho sa akin. At

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01:35:55.420 --> 01:35:58.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 2027, El Nino na naman

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01:35:58.340 --> 01:36:00.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nasasalubong at mas malakas pa.

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01:36:00.260 --> 01:36:02.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So with all of that,

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01:36:03.160 --> 01:36:04.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa production output

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01:36:04.400 --> 01:36:05.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: naman, we expect na

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 700,000 tons of

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: rice ang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mawawala, at least.

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01:36:12.840 --> 01:36:14.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That's probably a million

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01:36:14.260 --> 01:36:16.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tons of pala, worst case scenario.

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01:36:17.840 --> 01:36:19.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Plus meron pa tayo nabawasan na

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01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:22.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 163,000

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tons as of now

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01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:26.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dito sa losses for this

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01:36:26.320 --> 01:36:27.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: year. So

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: would need

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 700,000 plus 163

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01:36:32.380 --> 01:36:34.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as of now, we would need an addition

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: of 863,000

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tons of rice

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: para

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ma-ensure na

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01:36:42.200 --> 01:36:44.640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may bigas tayo through this El Nino.

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01:36:45.780 --> 01:36:46.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Plus

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01:36:46.500 --> 01:36:48.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: strategic buffer stocks pa na kailangan.

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01:36:49.320 --> 01:36:49.980
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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01:36:49.980 --> 01:36:52.380
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Secretary, itong nasa screen natin,

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01:36:53.080 --> 01:36:55.080
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 163 metric

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01:36:55.080 --> 01:36:56.760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: tons of agricultural losses.

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01:36:56.760 --> 01:36:57.400
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ibig sabihin,

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01:36:58.340 --> 01:36:59.880
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: this will increase to times,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: almost times 8

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: from 160 to about

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 800,000. So mga times 6.

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01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:07.720
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 6 to 8.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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01:37:09.540 --> 01:37:11.420
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kasi ito, ano pa lang ito, as of September.

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01:37:11.740 --> 01:37:13.140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Di pa, pasok pa lang ngayon, El Nino.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And then, dito sa

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: this data

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: came from the PSA,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 223,000

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: farmers ang affected.

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01:37:23.860 --> 01:37:25.720
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So at the peak of El Nino,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ilan

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ang projected

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01:37:29.620 --> 01:37:32.200
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: agricultural losses na nakikita

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01:37:32.200 --> 01:37:32.800
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ng department?

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01:37:36.120 --> 01:37:37.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I don't have the total figures

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: with me right now. Maybe I can ask

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa rice kasi yun na sa isip ko

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01:37:42.300 --> 01:37:43.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as of the moment.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ito is cumulative na ito.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Iba-iba.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Iba-ibang products.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I think that is

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: going to be the most

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: precipitative

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01:37:57.340 --> 01:37:58.900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: problem in the agriculture

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01:37:58.900 --> 01:37:59.720
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: itong El Nino.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So we want to understand kung ready ba

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: in department.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And kung hindi, how can we

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: help the department to become ready

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: to respond to El Nino?

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01:39:23.500 --> 01:39:24.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair,

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01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:35.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa 2023-2024 na total value lost natin was almost 16 billion ang nawala sa atin

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01:39:35.980 --> 01:39:39.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: during that relatively strong El Nino period.

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01:39:40.460 --> 01:39:45.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So with values up now and super El Nino ito,

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01:39:45.620 --> 01:39:50.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we expect siguro na baka umabot tayo ng 20 billion in losses.

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01:39:50.180 --> 01:40:00.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung volume lost in 2023-2024 that year is 828,000 metric tons

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or almost 280,000 hectares affected.

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01:40:06.320 --> 01:40:11.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So we expect na volume lost can reach up to a million tons.

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01:40:12.020 --> 01:40:16.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Area affected may reach about 350,000 hectares, Mr. Chair.

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01:40:20.180 --> 01:40:26.180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Secretary, narinig ko kanina sinabi nyo na based on experience ng DA,

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01:40:26.360 --> 01:40:30.660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: during El Nino may mga areas na okay naman, umuulan.

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01:40:31.300 --> 01:40:34.660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: May mga areas na talagang tuyong-tuyo.

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01:40:34.780 --> 01:40:38.280
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: In fact, I know some provinces nag-declare na ng state of calamity

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01:40:38.280 --> 01:40:41.580
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: because talagang hindi umuulan sa kanila.

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01:40:41.700 --> 01:40:44.000
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Meron pa ng mga forest fires.

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01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:49.580
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So dito sa mga affected areas,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ang projected farmers and fisher folks na maapektuhan ng El Nino.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Based on your projection.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sir, Mr. Chair, base dito sa aking figures,

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01:41:11.340 --> 01:41:19.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: minimum of 2.795, 2.8 million farmers and fisher folks

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01:41:19.340 --> 01:41:20.160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang maapektuhan ng El Nino.

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01:41:20.180 --> 01:41:23.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang mga mga apektuhan, individual yan, individual.

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01:41:25.660 --> 01:41:30.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pero worst case scenario, baka 4.6 million.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 4.6 million, that's almost, tingin-tingin ako yung slides nyo kanina.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Halos lahat na yun, ha.

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01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:42.520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kasi 6.7 million farmers, eh.

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01:41:45.120 --> 01:41:48.160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yun yung worst case scenario namin, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: This is the worst case scenario.

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01:41:50.180 --> 01:42:02.540
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So about 4 million out of the 9.6 million employment in the farming and fishery.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 10.4, Mr. Chair.

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01:42:03.380 --> 01:42:05.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nasa RSVSA lang.

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So halos kalahati.

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01:42:07.920 --> 01:42:09.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yeah, halos kalahati, Mr. Chair.

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01:42:09.380 --> 01:42:10.120
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Halos kalahati.

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01:42:10.700 --> 01:42:17.320
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Looking at the budget, alam ko itong nag-uusap nga kami ni Chairman Kiko,

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01:42:17.320 --> 01:42:19.320
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: yung presidential assistance.

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01:42:20.180 --> 01:42:21.760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: To farmers and fisher folks.

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01:42:22.260 --> 01:42:25.180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Of which, parang every year, nalalagay naman yun.

asr-001756
01:42:25.280 --> 01:42:29.100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Pero ang nakakapagtaka sa NEP, hindi nalalagay ng budget.

asr-001757
01:42:29.640 --> 01:42:31.320
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ina-augment na lang ng Congress.

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01:42:31.480 --> 01:42:33.340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Like last time, na-augment ng 10 billion.

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01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:38.260
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I understand, dito sa GAB, na-augment ulit, no?

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01:42:38.300 --> 01:42:39.140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: To 10 billion.

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01:42:39.620 --> 01:42:42.740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So aside from, itong 10 billion, I would assume,

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Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: is also geared towards helping the 4 million farmers.

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01:42:47.240 --> 01:42:47.640
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Tama po ba?

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01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:48.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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01:42:48.520 --> 01:42:49.520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And how do, how...

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01:42:50.180 --> 01:42:53.600
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Paano makakatulong itong PAF, in presidential assistance,

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01:42:54.320 --> 01:42:59.760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: itong worst case scenario na 4 million farmers maapektuhan natin?

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01:42:59.860 --> 01:43:04.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Well, Mr. Chair, yung presidential assistance to farmers and fisher folks,

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01:43:04.240 --> 01:43:09.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that is basically cash assistance, direct cash assistance to our farmers who are affected.

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01:43:10.640 --> 01:43:14.160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Of course, sarami ngayon ang affected at 4.6 million.

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01:43:14.160 --> 01:43:15.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Medyo maliit yan.

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01:43:15.900 --> 01:43:19.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But nag-uusap po kami sa kabinete.

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01:43:20.180 --> 01:43:24.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: With other, like Secretary of DOLE, Secretary of DSWD,

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01:43:25.080 --> 01:43:32.640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na we're pooling now our funds para nga kung may tinamaan ng El Nino na hindi na talaga makatanim

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01:43:32.640 --> 01:43:35.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at walang trabaho.

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01:43:36.540 --> 01:43:41.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So may cash assistance, may food packs, may tupad,

asr-001777
01:43:42.200 --> 01:43:45.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or maybe canal making or land preparation.

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01:43:45.420 --> 01:43:49.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So ganun ho ngayon yung diskarte namin.

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01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:54.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And moving forward to address para hindi yung dekahunt kaming lahat.

asr-001780
01:43:54.440 --> 01:43:55.640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So kung saan kailangan,

asr-001781
01:43:56.220 --> 01:44:02.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kagaya yung may El Nino sa Camarines Norte na may tinamaan na area na doon,

asr-001782
01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:06.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na binanggit namin kay Sec. Rex Gachelian,

asr-001783
01:44:07.020 --> 01:44:13.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nagpadala ko kagad ng assistance ang DSWD in forms of cash din sa kanya dahil meron silang pondo.

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01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:17.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasi mas mabilis mag-respond at mag-replenish ang DSWD.

asr-001785
01:44:18.080 --> 01:44:19.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So parang ganun na ho yung...

asr-001786
01:44:19.560 --> 01:44:28.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: While 10 billion na PATH na ninalagay natin namin for 2027 sa direct cash assistance,

asr-001787
01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:33.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: meron na kami access ngayon sa DSWD through them,

asr-001788
01:44:34.080 --> 01:44:35.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tsaka sa DOLI rin.

asr-001789
01:44:35.440 --> 01:44:37.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So yun ho yung mas magandang sistema namin ngayon.

asr-001790
01:44:38.980 --> 01:44:46.700
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Later on, meron kaming ginawang special committee for economic recovery.

asr-001791
01:44:46.700 --> 01:44:48.960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And we included, si Majority Leader Migs,

asr-001792
01:44:49.560 --> 01:44:52.180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: include niya na rin doon yung El Nino.

asr-001793
01:44:52.800 --> 01:44:58.520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So hingi kami ng detailed briefing on the government's response to El Nino.

asr-001794
01:44:58.520 --> 01:44:59.840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kasi...

asr-001795
01:44:59.840 --> 01:45:00.680
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: padating na siya eh.

asr-001796
01:45:00.760 --> 01:45:09.280
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And it can be as worse as the Iran conflict in which yung presyo ng langis tumaas.

asr-001797
01:45:09.740 --> 01:45:16.340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ito naman, triple whammy. Wala ka ng trabaho, wala ka ng output, wala pa tayong makakain.

asr-001798
01:45:16.800 --> 01:45:23.700
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So we really need to make sure na ang gobyerno ay handa pagdating sa El Nino.

asr-001799
01:45:23.700 --> 01:45:29.720
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And so far, narinig ko kanina sa inyong briefing na meron na kayong parang whole of government approach.

asr-001800
01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:34.800
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: To conserve resources between DOLE, DSWD, and DA.

asr-001801
01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:40.140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ganun ba ang approach, Secretary, to itong mga vulnerable sectors?

asr-001802
01:45:40.480 --> 01:45:52.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair. Not only that, pati sa DOH, meron din tayong collaborative with DOLE, DOH, DSWD, and maybe other agencies pa.

asr-001803
01:45:52.380 --> 01:45:59.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: OCD pala, pati sa OCD under the DND.

asr-001804
01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:09.060
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Aside from PAF, what other components in the budget na gagamitin ninyo to respond to El Nino?

asr-001805
01:46:09.400 --> 01:46:18.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron din tayo, Mr. Chair, fuel assistance, of course, some fertilizer support, seed support, and transport support, no?

asr-001806
01:46:19.760 --> 01:46:29.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung logistic support na, like sa tollways, meron tayong mga agreement, and hopefully we can get more funding for that, among others, Mr. Chair.

asr-001807
01:46:29.340 --> 01:46:29.400
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you.

asr-001808
01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:33.460
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So that's embedded already in the budget ng DA?

asr-001809
01:46:33.460 --> 01:46:34.260
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yes, Mr. Chair.

asr-001810
01:46:34.620 --> 01:46:35.960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, thank you.

asr-001811
01:46:36.200 --> 01:46:46.240
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And on a detailed submission na lang, pakisubmit na lang, Secretary, yung DA's response to the El Nino.

asr-001812
01:46:47.060 --> 01:46:47.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

asr-001813
01:46:47.900 --> 01:46:55.700
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I'll jump to another topic, Secretary, and ito na pag-usapan natin last year, yung farm-to-market roads.

asr-001814
01:46:55.980 --> 01:46:59.900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And for 2026, yung farm-to-market roads.

asr-001815
01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:15.940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yung farm-to-market roads, nabigay, o tinransfer namin ni Senator Kiko, siya being the chairman of the budget of the DA, to the Department of Agriculture instead of the Department of Public Works.

asr-001816
01:47:16.540 --> 01:47:24.080
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But nakita ko dito sa utilization for 2026, hindi pa siya nai-utilize to date.

asr-001817
01:47:24.080 --> 01:47:28.080
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, may we get a briefing on...

asr-001818
01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:43.260
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Tapos yung concept na yun, tinransfer natin sa DA, and then second, base dito sa aming report, doon sa 33 billion na farm-to-market roads, wala pang nagagawa for 2026.

asr-001819
01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:51.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before you answer, just to place on record, we'd like to acknowledge the presence of our minority leader, Senator Alan Cayetano.

asr-001820
01:47:52.120 --> 01:47:52.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you.

asr-001821
01:47:53.700 --> 01:47:54.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, please.

asr-001822
01:47:54.900 --> 01:47:56.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

asr-001823
01:47:57.540 --> 01:47:58.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa FMR...

asr-001824
01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:11.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May transfer na ho sa amin yan, at may mga conditions under the GAAD for the transfer that we had to set up several offices, you know, get more people together.

asr-001825
01:48:11.380 --> 01:48:13.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May delay kami sa requesting of SARO.

asr-001826
01:48:14.560 --> 01:48:20.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But of course, na-request naman yung SARO namin, I think, by mid-year this year.

asr-001827
01:48:20.840 --> 01:48:24.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then, yung pera, dumating din lang September.

asr-001828
01:48:24.820 --> 01:48:28.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At then, nung binigay sa amin yung pera ng September,

asr-001829
01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:34.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it's an end of a quarter that we had to give it back, no?

asr-001830
01:48:34.380 --> 01:48:35.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung pondo.

asr-001831
01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:39.640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At inire-release lang ulit ngayon yung pondo sa amin this October.

asr-001832
01:48:40.360 --> 01:48:46.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But on the positive note naman, Mr. Chair, we're ready to bid now.

asr-001833
01:48:47.420 --> 01:48:53.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At finally, matutuloy na ho yung implementation ng FMR natin for 2026.

asr-001834
01:48:53.920 --> 01:48:57.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And for 2027, pag na-approve na ho sa BICAM na yan,

asr-001835
01:48:58.680 --> 01:48:59.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we will be doing...

asr-001836
01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:08.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pre-procurement basis sa NEP and short of award

asr-001837
01:49:08.440 --> 01:49:14.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: so that magmapabilis namin yung implementation yan sa 2027 also, Mr. Chair.

asr-001838
01:49:14.940 --> 01:49:23.340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Itong 33 billion na FMR, kaka-transfer lang sa inyo, kaka-release lang ng SARO itong September?

asr-001839
01:49:24.640 --> 01:49:28.160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Actually, ang na-release lang sa amin is 4.2 billion, Mr. Chair.

asr-001840
01:49:28.160 --> 01:49:29.600
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 4.2 billion.

asr-001841
01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:30.640
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So may...

asr-001842
01:49:30.640 --> 01:49:32.680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nung September.

asr-001843
01:49:33.040 --> 01:49:37.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tapos binalik namin yan, we had to return it dahil may end of the month cut-off kami.

asr-001844
01:49:38.420 --> 01:49:44.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then binalik naman sa amin by this October lang yung 18 billion out of the 33, Mr. Chair.

asr-001845
01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:45.180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Okay.

asr-001846
01:49:45.700 --> 01:49:48.580
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So magkano na ang na-release for 2026 lang?

asr-001847
01:49:49.040 --> 01:49:49.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 18...

asr-001848
01:49:49.880 --> 01:49:52.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 23 billion na pala.

asr-001849
01:49:52.460 --> 01:49:53.740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 23 billion. Okay.

asr-001850
01:49:53.740 --> 01:49:59.980
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And doon sa special provisions in which si Sen. Kiko ang nagsulat nun,

asr-001851
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:08.520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: may mga requirements, for example, yung transparency, ilalagay sa portal, ilalagay sa website.

asr-001852
01:50:09.120 --> 01:50:11.880
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ito ba ay naka-ayos na?

asr-001853
01:50:12.260 --> 01:50:16.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, naka-setup na ho at ready to go.

asr-001854
01:50:16.700 --> 01:50:24.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So now, the challenge, nandito na yung challenge namin na maayos to at nakita na lahat ng tao how we perform.

asr-001855
01:50:24.600 --> 01:50:29.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And I have required actually our team sa DA to give a monthly report.

asr-001856
01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:39.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: To me, on the status of each and every project with pictures, which I will also copy the committee chairman, Mr. Chair.

asr-001857
01:50:39.460 --> 01:50:42.140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: In fact, during the last hearing, it was a challenge to you.

asr-001858
01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:46.980
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Dahil doon sa DPWH, iba-iba yung presyo.

asr-001859
01:50:46.980 --> 01:50:58.520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But I remember during that time, you said the DA can construct it more efficiently and much cheaper through the BAFE.

asr-001860
01:50:59.280 --> 01:50:59.900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ito ba ang BAFE?

asr-001861
01:50:59.900 --> 01:51:05.140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I, ano ba ito, na-increase ba yung capacity nila?

asr-001862
01:51:05.800 --> 01:51:12.080
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kasi yun rin yung isang worry namin, baka mabulunan yung BAFE, DA BAFE.

asr-001863
01:51:12.460 --> 01:51:15.400
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Have you already capacitated yung BAFE?

asr-001864
01:51:15.400 --> 01:51:20.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Well, we have increased its capacity but not enough, Mr. Chair.

asr-001865
01:51:20.620 --> 01:51:23.640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But it will be a challenge.

asr-001866
01:51:24.260 --> 01:51:28.780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's not, hindi ito magiging madali but we will do our best.

asr-001867
01:51:28.780 --> 01:51:42.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We assigned a special undersecretary just to look into all of this team para may nakatutok na 100% so that we do it properly.

asr-001868
01:51:43.480 --> 01:51:48.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa presyo naman, at that time, we can make it lower.

asr-001869
01:51:48.340 --> 01:51:58.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: As of now, bumalik kami sa original considering naman na prices of everything has gone.

asr-001870
01:51:58.780 --> 01:51:59.780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Much, much higher.

asr-001871
01:52:00.420 --> 01:52:06.640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But we were able to maintain yung dating presyo at 15 million per kilometer

asr-001872
01:52:06.640 --> 01:52:10.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: which even yung contractor, sinasabi, medyo maliit na yung margin nila

asr-001873
01:52:10.900 --> 01:52:19.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but payag naman na kailangan lahat ng trabaho at kailangan ng projects naman ng mga contractors.

asr-001874
01:52:19.700 --> 01:52:28.620
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So for normal, on a normal condition, 15 million per kilometer pa ba ang cost?

asr-001875
01:52:28.620 --> 01:52:30.380
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Nang farm-to-market roads?

asr-001876
01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:32.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa ngayon, yun ang tamang cost na yun.

asr-001877
01:52:32.500 --> 01:52:33.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yun ang tamang cost.

asr-001878
01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:39.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Of course, as you inspected, may iba nasa Bangil, di ba?

asr-001879
01:52:39.880 --> 01:52:43.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But on the average, assuming all things equal, 15 million ang cost.

asr-001880
01:52:43.100 --> 01:52:44.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yan yung average, Mr. Chair.

asr-001881
01:52:44.620 --> 01:52:45.220
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yan ang average.

asr-001882
01:52:45.700 --> 01:52:47.240
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

asr-001883
01:52:47.440 --> 01:52:51.180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I'll just ask some more questions on my second round.

asr-001884
01:52:51.380 --> 01:52:52.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, thank you.

asr-001885
01:52:54.060 --> 01:52:57.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator JV, Chairman of the Committee,

asr-001886
01:52:58.620 --> 01:52:59.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: please, you have the floor.

asr-001887
01:53:01.080 --> 01:53:02.560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-001888
01:53:02.880 --> 01:53:06.020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Good morning to Secretary Laurel, the DA family.

asr-001889
01:53:07.240 --> 01:53:10.060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: This was asked earlier, no, ng ating po, Senate President,

asr-001890
01:53:10.240 --> 01:53:17.380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung tungkol po sa Presidential Assistance to Farmers and Fisher Folk Program,

asr-001891
01:53:17.380 --> 01:53:19.140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: being the Chair of the Committee on Finance,

asr-001892
01:53:19.280 --> 01:53:23.180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I noticed, as pointed out by our Senate President,

asr-001893
01:53:23.340 --> 01:53:28.080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: wala po ito sa NEP, but it was included in the House,

asr-001894
01:53:28.620 --> 01:53:31.880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: HGAB, or General Appropriations Bill from the House,

asr-001895
01:53:31.940 --> 01:53:32.640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sa 10 billion.

asr-001896
01:53:33.540 --> 01:53:40.780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Just want to ask, did the agency request it for this?

asr-001897
01:53:40.780 --> 01:53:43.620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: O ang house ang naglagay nito?

asr-001898
01:53:45.020 --> 01:53:45.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes.

asr-001899
01:53:46.640 --> 01:53:49.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nung pinapareho namin yung aming NEP, Mr. Chair,

asr-001900
01:53:50.080 --> 01:53:54.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we were given kasi a cap, fiscal cap.

asr-001901
01:53:54.940 --> 01:53:58.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, hindi namin sinama yung PAF initially,

asr-001902
01:53:58.620 --> 01:54:00.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa NEP request namin,

asr-001903
01:54:00.760 --> 01:54:06.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but sa Congress, even actually sa Senate,

asr-001904
01:54:06.280 --> 01:54:09.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: i-request namin talaga na may dagdag yan,

asr-001905
01:54:09.240 --> 01:54:11.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dahil nga, it's the looming El Nino.

asr-001906
01:54:11.920 --> 01:54:14.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, kung madadagdagan pa yan, would be better,

asr-001907
01:54:14.620 --> 01:54:17.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but then, pwede rin naman dagdagan yun sa DSWD,

asr-001908
01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:19.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: o kaya doon sa TUPAD,

asr-001909
01:54:20.080 --> 01:54:21.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that's unnecessary sa amin,

asr-001910
01:54:21.660 --> 01:54:23.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kasi nga, now we're working together naman eh.

asr-001911
01:54:24.140 --> 01:54:26.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But we really have to prepare for El Nino,

asr-001912
01:54:26.500 --> 01:54:28.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lalo na sa ating farmers and fisher folk.

asr-001913
01:54:28.620 --> 01:54:29.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-001914
01:54:29.900 --> 01:54:34.400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Well, actually, when I first reviewed the HGAB,

asr-001915
01:54:34.880 --> 01:54:39.620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nakita ko kasi, I got worried that the fund for the NDRMC,

asr-001916
01:54:40.560 --> 01:54:43.560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for the calamity fund, natanggal na 9.5 billion,

asr-001917
01:54:44.340 --> 01:54:46.360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but I saw this is a new entry.

asr-001918
01:54:47.260 --> 01:54:55.780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But when you said also na tingin din namin na para naman ito siguro,

asr-001919
01:54:55.880 --> 01:54:57.880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: direct assistance to farmers and fisher folk,

asr-001920
01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:00.220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: in anticipation of El Nino, okay din kami.

asr-001921
01:55:00.440 --> 01:55:05.060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And I agree with the House on this matter especially,

asr-001922
01:55:05.900 --> 01:55:09.020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pero doon sa iba, medyo may mga ayusin pa namin,

asr-001923
01:55:09.160 --> 01:55:10.320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: may hindi kami isang ayon,

asr-001924
01:55:10.940 --> 01:55:13.880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but with this, with your endorsement also,

asr-001925
01:55:14.220 --> 01:55:18.280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: tsaka kanina, napaliwanag yun naman kung paano nyo ito gagamitin,

asr-001926
01:55:18.320 --> 01:55:22.480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: in anticipation of the super El Nino.

asr-001927
01:55:23.380 --> 01:55:26.760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Although NIA is not anymore under the Department of Agriculture,

asr-001928
01:55:26.760 --> 01:55:27.720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we had the...

asr-001929
01:55:27.720 --> 01:55:29.400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we already heard their budget.

asr-001930
01:55:30.280 --> 01:55:32.620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang earlier you mentioned,

asr-001931
01:55:32.740 --> 01:55:34.520
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: si Katari, nabanggit mo kanina yung ano, no?

asr-001932
01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:35.900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: More irrigation is needed.

asr-001933
01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:37.780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But I...

asr-001934
01:55:37.780 --> 01:55:38.940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I...

asr-001935
01:55:38.940 --> 01:55:43.880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I propose to NIA to concentrate more on water impounding

asr-001936
01:55:43.880 --> 01:55:50.040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and retention projects in the coming years, no?

asr-001937
01:55:50.100 --> 01:55:53.760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because every time, every rainy season,

asr-001938
01:55:54.760 --> 01:55:56.480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sobra-sobra yung ulan natin.

asr-001939
01:55:56.480 --> 01:55:57.260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya lang,

asr-001940
01:55:57.720 --> 01:55:59.000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: toyo talagang walang-wala.

asr-001941
01:55:59.660 --> 01:56:00.680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, parang sabi ko,

asr-001942
01:56:00.780 --> 01:56:02.900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: if we continue on doing...

asr-001943
01:56:02.900 --> 01:56:05.500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: on adding more irrigation,

asr-001944
01:56:05.740 --> 01:56:07.580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: makadals and others,

asr-001945
01:56:08.080 --> 01:56:10.380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pero kung wala naman dadaloy na tubig, sayang din.

asr-001946
01:56:11.140 --> 01:56:13.260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, yun lang.

asr-001947
01:56:13.560 --> 01:56:17.720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: While you just like to ask for your opinion or position on this,

asr-001948
01:56:18.380 --> 01:56:20.380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: do you think this will be a better choice?

asr-001949
01:56:20.440 --> 01:56:23.080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because I think we'll be hitting two birds with one stone here.

asr-001950
01:56:23.620 --> 01:56:24.980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We'll be providing irrigation.

asr-001951
01:56:24.980 --> 01:56:27.680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We will be mitigating flood also.

asr-001952
01:56:27.720 --> 01:56:30.900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, it will be for flood mitigation.

asr-001953
01:56:31.100 --> 01:56:35.600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: At the same time, we will have the needed water during the dry days,

asr-001954
01:56:35.680 --> 01:56:37.560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: especially now na meron tayo mga...

asr-001955
01:56:37.560 --> 01:56:39.120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung ilin ninyo na, as mentioned earlier,

asr-001956
01:56:39.240 --> 01:56:40.620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nagiging every three years na.

asr-001957
01:56:41.140 --> 01:56:43.340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Instead of the usual, sabi nyo kanina, ten years,

asr-001958
01:56:43.400 --> 01:56:43.920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nagiging five years.

asr-001959
01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:53.720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, would you also endorse or suggest that we pursue that direction

asr-001960
01:56:53.720 --> 01:56:56.720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of having more impounding, having more...

asr-001961
01:56:57.720 --> 01:56:59.300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dams in water retention facilities?

asr-001962
01:57:00.140 --> 01:57:01.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

asr-001963
01:57:03.280 --> 01:57:06.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Along that, pati aquaculture will thrive, sir.

asr-001964
01:57:06.940 --> 01:57:10.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Definitely, nung pumasok ako, Mr. Chair, sa DA,

asr-001965
01:57:11.380 --> 01:57:14.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I already mentioned to many na

asr-001966
01:57:14.080 --> 01:57:17.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we are actually throwing away water.

asr-001967
01:57:18.720 --> 01:57:20.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang lipis ho ng Pilipinas.

asr-001968
01:57:21.800 --> 01:57:24.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung ang Palawan, mas manipis pa.

asr-001969
01:57:25.100 --> 01:57:27.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung humulan ho sa gitna ng Palawan,

asr-001970
01:57:27.720 --> 01:57:32.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang tubig na ulan na yun, in 12 hours na sa dagat na.

asr-001971
01:57:33.480 --> 01:57:35.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa Luzon naman, ang calculation ko,

asr-001972
01:57:36.100 --> 01:57:39.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung humulan sa gitna ng Luzon, kung may linya sa gitna,

asr-001973
01:57:39.980 --> 01:57:44.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng malakas, in 48 hours na sa dagat na yung tubig na yan.

asr-001974
01:57:45.220 --> 01:57:46.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tapon ho yun.

asr-001975
01:57:46.340 --> 01:57:50.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung lalagyan ho natin ng halaga yung tubig na humulan

asr-001976
01:57:50.220 --> 01:57:54.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at napunta sa dagat,

asr-001977
01:57:54.120 --> 01:57:57.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I computed it at 500 billion pesos a year yun.

asr-001978
01:57:57.720 --> 01:58:01.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: A worth of water ang tinatapon natin.

asr-001979
01:58:01.200 --> 01:58:06.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, ang ganda ho ng inyong push, Senator JV, Mr. Chair,

asr-001980
01:58:06.600 --> 01:58:12.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and I fully support na kailangan talaga natin ng warm water impounding.

asr-001981
01:58:12.940 --> 01:58:16.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We have so much water to impound and we should impound it.

asr-001982
01:58:17.300 --> 01:58:21.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And NIA, in my opinion, should concentrate on the big ticket items

asr-001983
01:58:21.800 --> 01:58:26.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: like dams, water impounding, and all the major canals

asr-001984
01:58:26.840 --> 01:58:27.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and water impounding.

asr-001985
01:58:27.720 --> 01:58:31.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Water waste for our agriculture, Mr. Chair.

asr-001986
01:58:31.900 --> 01:58:33.780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you for that, Secretary Laurel.

asr-001987
01:58:33.860 --> 01:58:36.940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Likewise, even DPWH, Secretary Dizon,

asr-001988
01:58:37.060 --> 01:58:45.660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I also suggested that instead of us concentrating on this flood mitigation project,

asr-001989
01:58:45.780 --> 01:58:47.480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or dating flood control, flood mitigation,

asr-001990
01:58:48.020 --> 01:58:50.480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: para nangyari sisementohan lahat ng ano,

asr-001991
01:58:51.460 --> 01:58:53.800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: lahat na pwedeng simentohan nating water waste,

asr-001992
01:58:53.800 --> 01:58:56.120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: para mawala lahat ng tubig, ma-push back,

asr-001993
01:58:56.340 --> 01:58:57.500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nangyayari,

asr-001994
01:58:57.720 --> 01:59:00.700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: wibilis lang yung takbo ng tubig para itapon.

asr-001995
01:59:01.360 --> 01:59:01.600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Di ba?

asr-001996
01:59:01.900 --> 01:59:02.740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Hindi pa na,

asr-001997
01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:05.740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: hindi pa na reprelish yung groundwater,

asr-001998
01:59:05.980 --> 01:59:07.000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung aquifer natin.

asr-001999
01:59:07.140 --> 01:59:07.360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Di ba?

asr-002000
01:59:07.480 --> 01:59:08.400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Nadideplete pa.

asr-002001
01:59:08.480 --> 01:59:09.580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's why we have sinkholes.

asr-002002
01:59:09.820 --> 01:59:12.260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, I think this has to be the,

asr-002003
01:59:12.360 --> 01:59:15.720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dapat magkaroon ng convergence ang NIA and DPWH

asr-002004
01:59:15.720 --> 01:59:16.880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: so that we will have,

asr-002005
01:59:16.960 --> 01:59:19.220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we will be preserving,

asr-002006
01:59:19.440 --> 01:59:22.240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we will be retaining more water on dry days.

asr-002007
01:59:22.400 --> 01:59:24.520
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, thank you for your opinion.

asr-002008
01:59:24.520 --> 01:59:27.700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'm happy that you support this,

asr-002009
01:59:27.820 --> 01:59:30.700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and thank you for your support and for the direction.

asr-002010
01:59:30.900 --> 01:59:33.020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sabi ko kaya yung mga sabo dams,

asr-002011
01:59:33.140 --> 01:59:36.640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dapat ganoon siguring gawin natin from the upland.

asr-002012
01:59:37.640 --> 01:59:38.880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We are cascading,

asr-002013
01:59:39.120 --> 01:59:40.840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: mapabagal yung takbo ng tubig,

asr-002014
01:59:40.940 --> 01:59:41.600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pero we retain.

asr-002015
01:59:41.760 --> 01:59:42.700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tama, may aquaculture,

asr-002016
01:59:42.920 --> 01:59:44.720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: maraming pwedeng gawin for tourism

asr-002017
01:59:44.720 --> 01:59:49.180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and even for, of course, for irrigation.

asr-002018
01:59:50.140 --> 01:59:51.340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And just like to assume,

asr-002019
01:59:52.280 --> 01:59:53.800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: because of our fiscal space,

asr-002020
01:59:53.800 --> 01:59:55.480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: very tightly in our fiscal space,

asr-002021
01:59:55.600 --> 01:59:57.360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: normally most of the agencies,

asr-002022
01:59:57.360 --> 01:59:59.980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: really suffered budget.

asr-002023
02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:05.000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: As Chairman of the Committee of Finance, siguro basic lang, Secretary.

asr-002024
02:00:07.460 --> 02:00:15.180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Which of the programs would you appeal that be funded, na dapat ituloy?

asr-002025
02:00:15.360 --> 02:00:19.760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because yung halimbawa, pati bare minimum na rin na kailangan nyo sana,

asr-002026
02:00:20.200 --> 02:00:25.140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I would like to find out, na increase in budget, kasi nga napakasikip.

asr-002027
02:00:25.140 --> 02:00:30.040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Very, ano tayong elbow room natin, but then again, we would like to find out as Chairman of Finance,

asr-002028
02:00:30.180 --> 02:00:39.280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na we do not want the productivity of the Department of Agriculture to be affected.

asr-002029
02:00:40.080 --> 02:00:48.800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So siguro yung dalang, just briefly, which programs would you suggest that we really prioritize?

asr-002030
02:00:50.020 --> 02:00:54.720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siyempre, ganito naman yung budgetary, pang-appellate to sa mga tapyas,

asr-002031
02:00:54.720 --> 02:00:58.540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: para maidagdago natin, so that we would consider.

asr-002032
02:00:58.740 --> 02:01:05.040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anyway, the Vice Chair of Finance, Francis Pangilinan, will recommend, pero siguro,

asr-002033
02:01:05.140 --> 02:01:14.980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but probably could already brief us today, kung ano po yung mga major programs that you think that would lead,

asr-002034
02:01:16.080 --> 02:01:20.140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung hindi pwedeng mawala, kung bagas sa inyong plano next, sa susunod na taon.

asr-002035
02:01:22.020 --> 02:01:23.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, thank you.

asr-002036
02:01:24.720 --> 02:01:28.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yan nga namin yung expanded fertilizer assistance of about 8.7B,

asr-002037
02:01:29.680 --> 02:01:35.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and yung mga hybrid solar-powered pump irrigation system,

asr-002038
02:01:35.300 --> 02:01:41.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: irrigation systems for fish production, retarding basin, basically for water impounding din talaga,

asr-002039
02:01:41.880 --> 02:01:43.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung mga SWIP projects namin.

asr-002040
02:01:44.840 --> 02:01:49.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron din kami yung request na sa masagana agri-food infrastructure modernization,

asr-002041
02:01:50.140 --> 02:01:53.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mga post-harvest facilities, dahil nga, lalo na pag El Nino,

asr-002042
02:01:54.720 --> 02:02:00.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may pagtataguan at madry at for milling, among others.

asr-002043
02:02:02.080 --> 02:02:05.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Marami pang iba, but we will submit the list, Mr. Chair,

asr-002044
02:02:05.580 --> 02:02:09.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: para for your guidance and to the good Senator J.B. Ejercito. Thank you, sir.

asr-002045
02:02:10.960 --> 02:02:12.080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you for that.

asr-002046
02:02:12.580 --> 02:02:17.840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sige, we'll just, we'll review also, yung inyong listahan.

asr-002047
02:02:18.800 --> 02:02:19.340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 24 billion.

asr-002048
02:02:19.680 --> 02:02:22.160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Wala, medyo 24 billion.

asr-002049
02:02:22.160 --> 02:02:23.780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung mga, yung mga,

asr-002050
02:02:24.720 --> 02:02:28.200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang medyo malaki, pero we'll do our best, no?

asr-002051
02:02:28.620 --> 02:02:30.420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siyempre, ayaw naman nating mawala, no?

asr-002052
02:02:31.280 --> 02:02:36.100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because I think, yung itong Middle East crisis have taught us lesson,

asr-002053
02:02:36.200 --> 02:02:41.660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na talaga, we really have to strengthen our food security and yung self-reliance, no?

asr-002054
02:02:42.880 --> 02:02:46.920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And then, siguro, pwede din tayo magtanong sa, sa BFAR is here, BFAR,

asr-002055
02:02:47.820 --> 02:02:48.940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sir Saldy Perez.

asr-002056
02:02:48.940 --> 02:02:53.460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Just like to ask, continues naman yung ating, yung ating po,

asr-002057
02:02:54.720 --> 02:02:58.220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: fisher folks, especially in the disputed areas, no?

asr-002058
02:02:58.920 --> 02:03:02.860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Can you, ano, can you just briefly, ano na, kung paano yung operation po natin doon?

asr-002059
02:03:02.920 --> 02:03:05.940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: How many vessels are assigned?

asr-002060
02:03:06.300 --> 02:03:07.060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: How many personnel?

asr-002061
02:03:08.000 --> 02:03:16.860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: How many liters of gasoline are being distributed to our fisher folks in this area,

asr-002062
02:03:16.860 --> 02:03:18.820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dun sa West Philippine Sea area?

asr-002063
02:03:18.820 --> 02:03:20.820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you.

asr-002064
02:03:24.720 --> 02:03:33.120
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: To our, ah, Chair, Sir Francis Mangilinan.

asr-002065
02:03:33.160 --> 02:03:35.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Director Salilig.

asr-002066
02:03:35.240 --> 02:03:37.720
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Members of the Committee, Colleagues of the Government,

asr-002067
02:03:38.340 --> 02:03:41.960
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: ang aming good secretary, ang gandang tanghali.

asr-002068
02:03:42.760 --> 02:03:51.240
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: The Bureau of Fisheries, we continue to support to our, especially sa fuel subsidy,

asr-002069
02:03:51.240 --> 02:03:53.240
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: ah, for...

asr-002070
02:03:54.800 --> 02:04:02.820
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: piskalyer 2025 ah, namigay po kami ng 11,894

asr-002071
02:04:02.820 --> 02:04:13.500
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: ah, na mga fisher folks po ang nakatanggap and then using fuel card, 11, 172 for fuel voucher.

asr-002072
02:04:13.520 --> 02:04:20.400
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ah, we have seven hundred twenty-two and then ang target namin doon sa piskalyer 2025,

asr-002073
02:04:20.400 --> 02:04:27.200
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: At least 23,504 na mga fisherfolk yung po ay mga motorized bangka.

asr-002074
02:04:28.100 --> 02:04:34.820
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: In addition, nagbigay po yung ating magiting na presidente ng 1 billion.

asr-002075
02:04:34.820 --> 02:04:47.860
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yun po ay nakabigay kami ng 11,172 na mga fisherfolk through using fuel cards and boat charts.

asr-002076
02:04:47.860 --> 02:05:08.100
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Until now, ang ongoing po ang aming distribution para ma-reach po ang ating mga target beneficiaries in addition to 105,126 fisherfolk beneficiaries are expected to receive our uplift funded fuel assistance program before the end of December 2026.

asr-002077
02:05:08.960 --> 02:05:17.140
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: So, all in all, ang aming budget is sa mag-end of December 2026, we have 1 billion.

asr-002078
02:05:17.860 --> 02:05:22.360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ilang beses po ang ano dyan? May naka-assign yung beses dyan?

asr-002079
02:05:22.560 --> 02:05:27.860
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yes, Mr. Chair. Mayroon po tayong...

asr-002080
02:05:27.860 --> 02:05:39.100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because with the continued harassment of our fishermen in the West Philippine Sea by the Chinese Coast Guard and militia,

asr-002081
02:05:39.100 --> 02:05:47.840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of course, we want to find out what concrete assistance DA and the BFAR is providing to our communities.

asr-002082
02:05:47.860 --> 02:05:49.900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung period dyan.

asr-002083
02:05:55.860 --> 02:05:57.600
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Sorry, sorry.

asr-002084
02:05:58.660 --> 02:05:59.460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung period dyan.

asr-002085
02:06:01.840 --> 02:06:03.880
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Mr. Chair, sanday lang ha.

asr-002086
02:06:04.580 --> 02:06:05.860
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Hinaarap ko pa yung...

asr-002087
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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: With the indulgence of our National Director,

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: we deployed 30-meter vests.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: And 50-meter vessels po in the West Philippine Sea.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: And then we provided as well boats or fishing boats to our fisher folk for regions 1, 3, and 4B.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: So, and then we provided po yung fuel subsidy for all those fisher folk operating on those area, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Is that daily?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sabi ko, nagdarasyon tayo ng fuel or may schedule po yan?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Yung fuel po namin, Mr. Chair, bali po, dun lang po sa available na pondo po natin.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: But right now, it's good news po that we have this 1 billion pesos for our uplift to be distributed to our fisher folk po.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: So, including po yung those fisher folk operating in regions...

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: 1, 3, and 4B, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pero yun pa rin ang ano, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That is still one of the richest in marine resources, to.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya talagang...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Doon talaga nangingisahan to.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pero is it true that, ano, almost 21,000 acres of coral reefs already are sa West Philippine Sea area?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ano na, nasira na?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: Do you have any news?

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: With that, Your Honor, we don't have the assessment yet.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: But, of course, with the...

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: deployment of our vessel, we can...

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: pretty sure that we can assess the area.

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BFAR Assistant Director for Administrative and Other Support Services Zaldy P. Perez: But, of course, considering that there's no harassment at all, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Actually, I want to ask naman sa farm-to-market roads.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: For 2013, the DA is proposing 16 billion for farm-to-market roads.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Bawat taon, iniulat kung ilang kilometre na kalsada ang natapos.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sa kanatilang magsasakaba talaga ang nakikinabang.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, taon-taon din kasi may mga balita pa rin tukol sa mga gulay at iba pang ani na nabubulok

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: at tinatapo na lang at hindi maibenta sa maayos na presyo.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, malaki yung papel ng middleman.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, question.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, for next year, sa farm-to-market road,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: how many kilometres is ang natin ang intended to construct for next year?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, yung sa 16 billion, 16 billion na ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, yung sa 16 billion na yun, 1,100, almost 1,100 kilometres, sir, ang farm-to-market road.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And, also, I'd like to touch on yung sa cold storage, Secretary.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: In 2025, the cold storage expansion project reported disbursed only 1.4% of its

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: allocation.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, of course, alam nyo naman ngayon, masikip.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, we would, we want to make sure that this is all utilized and dispersed, yung mga pondo.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ayaw natin maglagay ng hindi magagamit ngayon dahil nga sa sikip.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, what caused the delays and how many cold storage facilities have actually been completed

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and made operational?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, siguro, yun muna.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I admit that we had a slow start.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa aming mga cold storage projects due to technical design issues.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But, fortunately, tamang-tama lang po yung tanong ninyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tuloy-tuloy na namin inaugurate yung mga cold storage facilities na tinatayo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Actually, I was just in Camarines Sur and we turned over four setups already.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Earlier this year, we inaugurated.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We inaugurated our first mega cold storage in Pili, Kamsur.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa Taguig na cold storage natin should be completed by middle of next year.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Cabanatuan will be, mega cold storage will be completed by next year.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: San Jose, Mindoro, and ano pa isa?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang malaking bagay for the onions, ano?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: San Jose, Mindoro, isang mega.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tsaka, ano yung katabi niya?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa Sablayan, Mindoro also.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa Manolo Fortich.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa Sablayan lang, magtatayo rin tayo ng isang cold storage na malaki.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At total modular cold storage natin is about 70 units of which tuloy-tuloy na ho yung turnover niya.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, pumilis na ho at I'm happy to note that medyo yung farmer beneficiaries natin quite happy na meron na silang solar powered and wind powered battery storage, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Well, that's good news for our local production, Secretary.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Let me move on to, ano, of course, that one, another sector that is close to my heart because coming from Negros, I saw Sir Paul Alcaza Ascona here, SRA.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: My mother coming from, who hails from Negros, of course, sugar industry is very close to us.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: SIDA has a mandated annual funding allocation under the law.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yet funding has always fallen short. Under the 2027 NEP, 1 billion

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is allocated to the SRA with the limited budget of SIDA.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: How can we ensure that the full intended budget for SIDA programs is actually released and properly utilized to help our sugar cane farmers?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siguro pwede nga na?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Si ating SRA administrator will take advantage of your presence.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Senator JV.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Yeah.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So, so far, for the last...

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Prior to 2022, our SIDA budget went down to as low as 300 million, 500 million.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, I asked, pero 2 billion niya nung muna na.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: On the first year po, sir.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because it was not utilized, it went down to 500.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Now, low as 300.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So now, it's back to 1 billion.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Yes po, Mr. Chair.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: For the last three years po, 1 billion.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And then this year, yung alam ko po is 1 billion ulit.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: We have...

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: We have carried over...

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: I think almost 500 million kasi na-unutilized ever since before.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And for the last three years, we've tried our best to spend yung previous po.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So, we've been spending over 1 billion for the last two years.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And hopefully, if given 2 billion, we will be able to fully utilize it, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, sir.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We're hoping that it will be...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: It will be used effectively and maximized.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siyempre, tayo, ano eh, I'm the author of the Sugarcane Industry Development Act

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: with the intent of reviving the sugar industry of Negros.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang ano lang na, how about dun sa ano, how is the RSS affecting our sugar production?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Talagang minsan, hindi tayo inaabot ng swerte sa sugar industry.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tinamaan pa tayo ng peste, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, how is the sugar industry coping with it now?

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So far, our production in 2024-2025 was...

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Since 2022-2025, we've been growing, actually, in production.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Our peak happened in 2024-2025, we produced over 2 million tons.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And then, in 2025-2026, because of El Nino and the onset of RSS IPO,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: we went down to 1.85.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And this year, in anticipation for the drastic decrease in rainfall on a year-on-year comparison,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: our estimated production is down to 1.6 million.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And that's fighting RSSI as well.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: RSSI po kasi, Mr. Chair, is not part of any budget, even SIDA.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: SIDA kasi po is pre-allocated to certain items only.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And we hope and pray to the...

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Committee and to the Chairman po, sana, that we can have additional budget to fight this new pest, RSSI,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: which we never anticipated for Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But how are we coping with it?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Meron na tayong solution for fighting the RSSI?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And also, were we able to provide assistance to the sugarcane farmers?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And how many in anticipation of the RSSI and may super-el-lino pa?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So that we can prepare already, syempre as budget chair, as finance chair, I would like to find out.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Yes. Mr. Chair, for the initial first year po of RSSI in Negros,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: SRA from its meager corporate budget po spent about 188 million in assistance to farmers.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: This includes chemicals, fertilizer, and others, among others.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And from SIDA, we were able to utilize about 28 million.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So it's a total of 209 million.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Now for this year...

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: The DA extended 35 million directly to LGUs

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: because we had issues on how to fight RSSI with the province and the other agencies.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So there's 35 million directly to LGUs.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And I think a total of 400-something million of assistance to farmers and farm workers po

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: at 10,000 per farmer or per worker po through DSWD po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, just a...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anyway, I'm hoping that we'll be able to overcome this RSSI problem and super-el-lino.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But nonetheless, I'm also...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung commitment also of the SRA that the timing of the importation will now be...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Will not coincide with the harvest season.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, kasi konti na rin ikikitain nila.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, huwag na natin sasabayan.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Dapat na lang.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We understand.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of all of these factors

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that we need to import also because of the

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: shortage but yung timing na lang

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'm hoping that we can get

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: your commitment that

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: SRA will

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: only issue

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: authority to import

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: not during harvest season.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Mr. Chair,

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: yes, I think

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: the Secretary po and the

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: SRA are committed to

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: use importation

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: on a per-need basis po.

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: It may or may not happen during harvest

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SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: season but we will only do it if

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02:17:30.180 --> 02:17:32.340
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: we really need to do it po, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator JV.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We now have Senator Zubiri,

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02:17:42.560 --> 02:17:44.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator Migs, our majority leader.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You have 10 minutes.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I likewise before Senator Zubiri like to greet

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02:17:47.500 --> 02:17:50.360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Secretary Laurel. Happy birthday, sir.

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02:17:50.960 --> 02:17:52.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Related happy birthday.

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02:17:52.080 --> 02:17:52.940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Related happy birthday.

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02:17:53.760 --> 02:17:55.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: October 16? 17?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ka-birthday mo yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: my one and only

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: older brother,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Joseph. He's also

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Libra.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you very much. Ka-birthday nga nang

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: asawa ko ng Libra. October 11 yung

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02:18:11.820 --> 02:18:13.860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: isis ko. Mababait daw yung mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Libran. Anyway,

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02:18:16.140 --> 02:18:17.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. President, ah, Mr. Chairman,

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02:18:18.560 --> 02:18:20.220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: halatang

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02:18:20.220 --> 02:18:21.800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: magagandang mga, mababait

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02:18:21.800 --> 02:18:23.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng mga tanong ni Chairman natin, Chairman

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02:18:23.880 --> 02:18:25.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: JV, dahil meron daw silang

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02:18:25.820 --> 02:18:28.320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Xavier Mafia. Binulong sa akin

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02:18:28.320 --> 02:18:30.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kanina. Puro mga graduate ng

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02:18:30.120 --> 02:18:32.060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Xavier yan. Magagaling. Anyway,

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02:18:32.180 --> 02:18:34.320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. President, Mr. Chairman, if I may,

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02:18:34.840 --> 02:18:36.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I'll be remiss to ask

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02:18:36.200 --> 02:18:37.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: these questions because I'll ask,

asr-002278
02:18:38.100 --> 02:18:40.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: you know, I'm an LB

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02:18:40.140 --> 02:18:41.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: grad and all my LB

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02:18:41.620 --> 02:18:44.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: alumni are asking

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02:18:44.180 --> 02:18:45.480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: me to

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02:18:45.480 --> 02:18:47.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: participate in the

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02:18:47.920 --> 02:18:50.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: DA budget hearings.

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02:18:50.720 --> 02:18:52.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ang akin lang, Sec, I know it's very

asr-002285
02:18:52.080 --> 02:18:53.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: difficult. Alam mo, Chairman,

asr-002286
02:18:53.820 --> 02:18:56.480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: napakahirap talaga

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02:18:56.480 --> 02:18:58.320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: maging regulator at the same

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02:18:58.320 --> 02:18:58.840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: time

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02:18:58.840 --> 02:19:02.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: supporter of

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02:19:02.620 --> 02:19:04.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: farmers all over the country.

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02:19:04.400 --> 02:19:05.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I know, I understand your

asr-002292
02:19:05.880 --> 02:19:08.800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: predicament. Napakahirap dahil binabalansin

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: niyo po yung

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02:19:09.740 --> 02:19:11.700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pangangailangan ng mga magsasaka

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: at yung presyo ng

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: bilihin sa merkado.

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02:19:17.660 --> 02:19:18.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: In a way,

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02:19:18.300 --> 02:19:20.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kung mag-pro-farmer kayo at

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pinagbabawal po natin yung importation,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay,

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02:19:23.820 --> 02:19:26.020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: masaya po mga magsasaka

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02:19:26.020 --> 02:19:28.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pero napaka, tumataas naman

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02:19:28.180 --> 02:19:30.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang presyo ng bilihin dahil kulang

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02:19:30.180 --> 02:19:31.760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang produksyon ng ating

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02:19:31.760 --> 02:19:36.540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: produkto ng agrikultura.

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02:19:37.120 --> 02:19:37.340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So,

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02:19:38.360 --> 02:19:39.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pag naman sobra naman po kayong

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02:19:39.920 --> 02:19:42.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pro-importation, kawawa naman po

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02:19:42.280 --> 02:19:44.480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung mga magsasaka, naiiwan po sila,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: bumababa naman ang presyo ng

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02:19:46.260 --> 02:19:48.220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: produkto sa merkado.

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02:19:48.420 --> 02:19:50.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pero yun nga, ang give and take, yan ang problema

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: dyan. The reason I ask this,

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02:19:52.400 --> 02:19:53.800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chairman, is the

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02:19:53.820 --> 02:19:55.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: price of pork recently

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02:19:55.940 --> 02:19:57.560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: has gone really down.

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02:19:57.740 --> 02:19:59.680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kawawa-kawawa po yung ating mga pork producers.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chairman, 80%

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02:20:01.860 --> 02:20:04.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng ating pork producers are backyard farmers.

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02:20:04.600 --> 02:20:06.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Only 20% pong malalaki.

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02:20:07.240 --> 02:20:08.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At itong mga

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 20% na malalaking kumpanya,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kaya po nilang mabuhay, maski na malugi

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng konti, kaya po nilang, pero itong

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 80% na ating mga magsasaka

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay talagang kawawang-kawawa.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And I just like to read

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chairman, yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: itong

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02:20:23.820 --> 02:20:28.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mabilis lang po na

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02:20:28.180 --> 02:20:28.780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: statement

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02:20:28.780 --> 02:20:31.700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na nababasa ko, kasi yung feed ko po

asr-002333
02:20:31.700 --> 02:20:32.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay nasa mga

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02:20:32.920 --> 02:20:35.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga magsasakat,

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02:20:36.140 --> 02:20:37.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga iba't-ibang racers,

asr-002336
02:20:38.040 --> 02:20:39.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: hog racers, manok,

asr-002337
02:20:39.260 --> 02:20:41.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga poultry racers.

asr-002338
02:20:42.860 --> 02:20:45.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We are calling for urgent intervention.

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02:20:45.320 --> 02:20:47.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: This is from the Bukidnon Backyard

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02:20:47.300 --> 02:20:48.840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Hog Racers Group.

asr-002341
02:20:49.780 --> 02:20:51.320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dahil sa amin sa Bukidnon,

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02:20:51.480 --> 02:20:53.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: talagang hirap na hirap po sila. Marami po

asr-002343
02:20:53.240 --> 02:20:54.660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nagsira ng mga backyard farmers.

asr-002344
02:20:55.300 --> 02:20:57.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And we are calling for urgent intervention

asr-002345
02:20:57.100 --> 02:20:59.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: as buying prices of hogs in our

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02:20:59.360 --> 02:21:00.800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: province continues to crash.

asr-002347
02:21:02.200 --> 02:21:02.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And

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02:21:02.600 --> 02:21:05.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: they are lamenting that DA has not

asr-002349
02:21:05.240 --> 02:21:07.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: taken action. Ang nangyayari

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02:21:07.600 --> 02:21:09.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: is hog prices are plummeting,

asr-002351
02:21:09.420 --> 02:21:11.440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: feed and supply costs are skyrocketing.

asr-002352
02:21:11.680 --> 02:21:12.860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ito po, and I quote, no?

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02:21:13.400 --> 02:21:15.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yung livelihoods po nila in the breaking

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02:21:15.260 --> 02:21:16.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: point. And

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02:21:16.580 --> 02:21:18.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chairman, ito ang

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02:21:18.980 --> 02:21:20.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: lumalabas nung

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02:21:20.880 --> 02:21:21.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 2022,

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02:21:21.820 --> 02:21:22.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Secretary,

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02:21:22.080 --> 02:21:24.540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung

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02:21:24.540 --> 02:21:26.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: farmgate prices per kilo ng ating

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02:21:26.980 --> 02:21:28.760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga magsasaka, lalo na sa mga

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02:21:28.760 --> 02:21:30.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: hog racers, ay 179 pesos

asr-002363
02:21:30.980 --> 02:21:33.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: per kilo. Nung 2023,

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02:21:33.320 --> 02:21:35.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 177 per kilo.

asr-002365
02:21:35.860 --> 02:21:36.700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Nung 2024,

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02:21:36.880 --> 02:21:39.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 185 pesos per kilo

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02:21:39.100 --> 02:21:40.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang farmgate prices.

asr-002368
02:21:41.160 --> 02:21:42.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ngayon po, nung end of

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02:21:42.580 --> 02:21:44.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 2025, 170. Ngayon po,

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02:21:45.040 --> 02:21:46.840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 90 pesos to 120

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02:21:46.840 --> 02:21:48.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pesos per kilo ang

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02:21:48.820 --> 02:21:51.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: farmgate price. Ang laki po ng bagsak,

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02:21:51.280 --> 02:21:51.860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chairman.

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02:21:52.080 --> 02:21:54.020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Eh, yung

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02:21:54.020 --> 02:21:56.700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang sabi po nila,

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02:21:56.880 --> 02:21:59.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: dahil po sa napakanaming importation

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02:21:59.120 --> 02:22:00.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na nangyayari po sa

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02:22:00.400 --> 02:22:02.540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pork

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02:22:02.540 --> 02:22:05.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: products, including poultry products,

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02:22:05.560 --> 02:22:06.460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Secretary,

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02:22:07.040 --> 02:22:08.780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: has the DA done anything?

asr-002382
02:22:08.920 --> 02:22:10.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I know there's recent pronouncements, may mga bagong

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02:22:10.960 --> 02:22:13.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pronouncements mong DA, na kayo mismo

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02:22:13.080 --> 02:22:14.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nagsalita, na nagsabi po kayo na

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02:22:14.940 --> 02:22:17.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: medyo sobra nga ang importation

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02:22:17.100 --> 02:22:19.040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na yun. Would you be able to

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02:22:19.040 --> 02:22:20.420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: brief the committee now,

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02:22:20.420 --> 02:22:22.780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Secretary, kung ano pang mga

asr-002389
02:22:22.780 --> 02:22:25.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: hakbang ang ginagawa po ninyo

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02:22:25.980 --> 02:22:26.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: para naman

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02:22:26.940 --> 02:22:29.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: maitigil po ang massive

asr-002392
02:22:29.000 --> 02:22:31.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: importation nito mga pork and

asr-002393
02:22:31.200 --> 02:22:33.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: poultry products na kawawang-kawawang

asr-002394
02:22:33.600 --> 02:22:35.420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: po yung mga backyard racers po natin.

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02:22:35.520 --> 02:22:36.800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Secretary, may

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02:22:36.800 --> 02:22:38.500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Chairman may ask.

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02:22:38.500 --> 02:22:39.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

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02:22:39.460 --> 02:22:40.260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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02:22:41.120 --> 02:22:44.340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Actually, a number of my questions later will be on that.

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02:22:44.940 --> 02:22:45.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

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02:22:45.880 --> 02:22:48.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Baka masagot ko na lahat ng tanong ninyo, ma'am.

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02:22:48.500 --> 02:22:50.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ngayon, sa tungkol sa pork,

asr-002403
02:22:50.420 --> 02:22:52.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: unang-una gusto ko lang

asr-002404
02:22:52.180 --> 02:22:54.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ipabatid sa lahat at sa taong bayan

asr-002405
02:22:54.280 --> 02:22:56.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na ang DA ho at ako ho

asr-002406
02:22:56.400 --> 02:22:58.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ay ang kakampi ng pork industry.

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02:22:59.500 --> 02:23:00.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We are for the

asr-002408
02:23:00.460 --> 02:23:01.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: local pork producers.

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02:23:02.520 --> 02:23:04.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We are not in favor of

asr-002410
02:23:04.460 --> 02:23:06.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: importers. Yun lang ho. Gusto ko unang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: linawin.

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02:23:08.300 --> 02:23:10.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya lang, bound kami

asr-002413
02:23:10.620 --> 02:23:12.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: by international rules

asr-002414
02:23:12.660 --> 02:23:13.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and agreements

asr-002415
02:23:13.800 --> 02:23:16.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: made by my

asr-002416
02:23:16.460 --> 02:23:18.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: predecessors about pork

asr-002417
02:23:18.400 --> 02:23:20.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and chicken that we cannot just

asr-002418
02:23:20.420 --> 02:23:20.780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: stop

asr-002419
02:23:20.780 --> 02:23:24.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: importation just like

asr-002420
02:23:24.400 --> 02:23:25.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that on a whim.

asr-002421
02:23:26.200 --> 02:23:28.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung gusto ho natin yun, ang request ko

asr-002422
02:23:28.140 --> 02:23:30.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa ating Kongreso at ating Senado,

asr-002423
02:23:30.620 --> 02:23:32.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: gawan ho nyo ako ng batas

asr-002424
02:23:32.020 --> 02:23:34.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na pwede ko arbitrarily

asr-002425
02:23:34.580 --> 02:23:36.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hintuin ang kahit

asr-002426
02:23:36.520 --> 02:23:38.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: anong importation, kahit

asr-002427
02:23:38.540 --> 02:23:40.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may bilateral agreements na under

asr-002428
02:23:40.400 --> 02:23:42.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the RTO for a short period of time

asr-002429
02:23:42.700 --> 02:23:44.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to correct any situation.

asr-002430
02:23:45.400 --> 02:23:46.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung meron ho ako noon,

asr-002431
02:23:48.220 --> 02:23:48.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pwedeng

asr-002432
02:23:48.420 --> 02:23:48.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pwedeng

asr-002433
02:23:48.860 --> 02:23:49.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ah

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02:23:50.420 --> 02:23:51.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: gagawin ko

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02:23:51.500 --> 02:23:52.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kaagad yun.

asr-002436
02:23:53.080 --> 02:23:55.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sek, Sek, just with your respect,

asr-002437
02:23:55.460 --> 02:23:57.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sek, pero other countries

asr-002438
02:23:57.580 --> 02:23:59.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: are doing it under the phytosanitary

asr-002439
02:23:59.260 --> 02:24:01.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: permit. Alam ko yung sinasabi

asr-002440
02:24:01.240 --> 02:24:03.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kasi nila is WTO

asr-002441
02:24:03.360 --> 02:24:05.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: etc. etc. But whenever

asr-002442
02:24:05.360 --> 02:24:07.520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: we use that also when we import

asr-002443
02:24:07.520 --> 02:24:09.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to other countries, ang sagot ng ibang bansa

asr-002444
02:24:09.380 --> 02:24:11.500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay hindi kayo pumapasa sa phytosanitary

asr-002445
02:24:11.500 --> 02:24:13.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: permit namin. Hindi sila

asr-002446
02:24:13.360 --> 02:24:15.160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nagbabay, nagbabayalate din po sila ng

asr-002447
02:24:15.160 --> 02:24:17.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: WTO, World Trade Organization.

asr-002448
02:24:17.360 --> 02:24:19.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pwede ho yun, Mr. Chair,

asr-002449
02:24:19.300 --> 02:24:20.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung, kung,

asr-002450
02:24:20.420 --> 02:24:22.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung isang bansa lang

asr-002451
02:24:22.340 --> 02:24:24.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nagsusupay, iipitin mo yung isang bansa,

asr-002452
02:24:24.340 --> 02:24:26.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sabihin mo, ganon, pwede yun. Pero

asr-002453
02:24:26.240 --> 02:24:28.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang raming supplying na bansa eh.

asr-002454
02:24:28.920 --> 02:24:30.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Diba? Hindi mo natin pwedeng

asr-002455
02:24:30.240 --> 02:24:30.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sabihin lahat.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pwedeng sumabat lang, sorry.

asr-002456
02:24:32.700 --> 02:24:33.780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sabat lang ako ah

asr-002457
02:24:33.780 --> 02:24:36.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kay Senator Suviria

asr-002458
02:24:36.120 --> 02:24:38.180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: with the indulgence of our chair.

asr-002459
02:24:38.620 --> 02:24:40.060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang problema kasi dyan, yung

asr-002460
02:24:40.060 --> 02:24:42.080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Executive Order 116 na

asr-002461
02:24:42.080 --> 02:24:44.160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: pinirmahan nitong taon, May 19

asr-002462
02:24:44.160 --> 02:24:45.820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng Pangulo, drastically

asr-002463
02:24:45.820 --> 02:24:48.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: increased the mob for imported

asr-002464
02:24:48.000 --> 02:24:50.300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: pork meat. Hindi nangangailangan ng bagong

asr-002465
02:24:50.300 --> 02:24:52.060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: batas. Paltan lang yan.

asr-002466
02:24:52.600 --> 02:24:54.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Bakit naman kasi, in-expand

asr-002467
02:24:54.240 --> 02:24:56.400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: masyado, tapos yung taripa, binagsak

asr-002468
02:24:56.400 --> 02:24:58.400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: masyado. Talagang walang kalaban-laban.

asr-002469
02:24:58.800 --> 02:24:59.220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yun lang.

asr-002470
02:24:59.980 --> 02:25:01.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sagutin ko lang yun, Mr. Chair.

asr-002471
02:25:02.160 --> 02:25:04.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung EO na yun, tama ho yung EO na yun.

asr-002472
02:25:04.500 --> 02:25:05.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I am defending that EO.

asr-002473
02:25:06.540 --> 02:25:08.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That is in case naman,

asr-002474
02:25:08.540 --> 02:25:10.160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dahil nangyari ang EO, dahil dati

asr-002475
02:25:10.160 --> 02:25:12.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tumaas masyado naman ang presyo ng baboy

asr-002476
02:25:12.280 --> 02:25:14.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa merkado at

asr-002477
02:25:14.000 --> 02:25:16.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: consumer naman ang kawawa. Ito nga ho yung

asr-002478
02:25:16.060 --> 02:25:17.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: balancing act eh.

asr-002479
02:25:17.780 --> 02:25:20.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung EO ng ating Pangulo na yan, hindi ho

asr-002480
02:25:20.220 --> 02:25:22.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tinrigger yan. That is a safeguard

asr-002481
02:25:22.360 --> 02:25:24.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: EO in case

asr-002482
02:25:24.120 --> 02:25:26.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: magkabaligtad

asr-002483
02:25:26.400 --> 02:25:28.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: naman ang sitwasyon. So, huwag ho tayo

asr-002484
02:25:28.280 --> 02:25:30.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mag-alala dyan. Tungkol naman,

asr-002485
02:25:30.580 --> 02:25:32.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: babalik lang ho ako dun sa

asr-002486
02:25:32.180 --> 02:25:36.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: SPSIC na sabihin

asr-002487
02:25:36.120 --> 02:25:36.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa ano,

asr-002488
02:25:38.820 --> 02:25:39.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang problema ho natin,

asr-002489
02:25:40.080 --> 02:25:42.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, is kailangan natin

asr-002490
02:25:42.040 --> 02:25:43.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ihinto lahat ng

asr-002491
02:25:43.860 --> 02:25:46.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: importasyon for at least 60

asr-002492
02:25:46.180 --> 02:25:48.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: days from all origins.

asr-002493
02:25:49.440 --> 02:25:50.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Hindi naman

asr-002494
02:25:50.220 --> 02:25:51.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: natin pwedeng gawin yung

asr-002495
02:25:51.800 --> 02:25:54.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sinasuggest kanina

asr-002496
02:25:54.020 --> 02:25:56.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na all origins. Lahat yan,

asr-002497
02:25:56.400 --> 02:25:58.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang Amerika, ang UK,

asr-002498
02:25:58.360 --> 02:25:59.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang Canada,

asr-002499
02:25:59.720 --> 02:26:01.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang Australia,

asr-002500
02:26:01.860 --> 02:26:02.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang Brazil,

asr-002501
02:26:03.840 --> 02:26:05.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: magre-reklamo

asr-002502
02:26:05.060 --> 02:26:07.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at sa file lang tayo ng kaso.

asr-002503
02:26:07.900 --> 02:26:09.800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: But the SEC, so what is

asr-002504
02:26:09.800 --> 02:26:11.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the solution?

asr-002505
02:26:12.040 --> 02:26:13.760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I'll be honest with you, ang problema

asr-002506
02:26:13.760 --> 02:26:16.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and every time nagme-meeting kami,

asr-002507
02:26:16.340 --> 02:26:17.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I'm racking my brains,

asr-002508
02:26:17.620 --> 02:26:19.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang taas ng presyo ng bilihin.

asr-002509
02:26:19.000 --> 02:26:19.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron kami,

asr-002510
02:26:20.220 --> 02:26:21.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang solution, Mr. Chair,

asr-002511
02:26:22.240 --> 02:26:25.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang DA ho ay talagang

asr-002512
02:26:25.280 --> 02:26:26.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: isinulong na namin ilang beses

asr-002513
02:26:26.920 --> 02:26:29.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hanggang ngayon. Nag-request na kami

asr-002514
02:26:29.300 --> 02:26:30.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: itaras, taas ang taripa,

asr-002515
02:26:31.020 --> 02:26:32.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ibalik sa 40%.

asr-002516
02:26:32.900 --> 02:26:35.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Lahat ho tayo magkasundo rito dun.

asr-002517
02:26:35.660 --> 02:26:37.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Wala tayong nag-aaway dito

asr-002518
02:26:37.260 --> 02:26:39.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at gusto kong pabatid sa ating mga

asr-002519
02:26:39.320 --> 02:26:41.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hog racers, kakampinyo kami dyan.

asr-002520
02:26:42.340 --> 02:26:42.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya lang,

asr-002521
02:26:43.020 --> 02:26:45.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at nag-file na kami, nasa proseso

asr-002522
02:26:45.200 --> 02:26:46.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na ho yan. Kaya lang, of course, there are

asr-002523
02:26:46.980 --> 02:26:49.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: other forces at or

asr-002524
02:26:49.460 --> 02:26:52.160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: other people who have different opinions

asr-002525
02:26:52.160 --> 02:26:52.970
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: about it.

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02:26:52.970 --> 02:26:54.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi alam ko, nag-petition

asr-002526
02:26:54.380 --> 02:26:55.760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na kayo sa Tariff Commission.

asr-002527
02:26:56.360 --> 02:26:58.820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang tanong, e 2028 pa ba

asr-002528
02:26:58.820 --> 02:27:00.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung 30% at 40%?

asr-002529
02:27:00.920 --> 02:27:02.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Talagang 25% ba yung

asr-002530
02:27:02.360 --> 02:27:04.540
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in-quota and 35% yung

asr-002531
02:27:04.540 --> 02:27:05.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: out-quota forever?

asr-002532
02:27:06.220 --> 02:27:07.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Wala bang magawa dyan?

asr-002533
02:27:07.260 --> 02:27:10.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Hindi naman ganun ang aming pronouncement,

asr-002534
02:27:10.200 --> 02:27:11.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Madam Chair.

asr-002535
02:27:11.800 --> 02:27:13.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nung sinabit namin, yun yung una.

asr-002536
02:27:14.700 --> 02:27:16.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi nakita ko, nag-petition talaga kayo.

asr-002537
02:27:16.620 --> 02:27:17.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Iba na ho ang posisyon namin.

asr-002538
02:27:18.100 --> 02:27:19.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang posisyon namin, diretso na tayo.

asr-002539
02:27:19.460 --> 02:27:22.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chair, I just like to ask,

asr-002540
02:27:22.260 --> 02:27:24.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kasi may nagkakaproblema, Mr. Chairman,

asr-002541
02:27:24.400 --> 02:27:25.700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: din sa technical smuggling.

asr-002542
02:27:26.260 --> 02:27:28.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Even if you bring it at 40%,

asr-002543
02:27:28.180 --> 02:27:30.040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: alam ko po, pag

asr-002544
02:27:30.040 --> 02:27:32.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: bumababayan dito,

asr-002545
02:27:32.660 --> 02:27:34.220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: binibenta pa rin yan, hinahalo

asr-002546
02:27:34.220 --> 02:27:36.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa local markets,

asr-002547
02:27:37.040 --> 02:27:38.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na galing po itong local.

asr-002548
02:27:38.340 --> 02:27:39.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kaya, ang nangyayari,

asr-002549
02:27:39.920 --> 02:27:42.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nakakatipid po sila dito sa 40%

asr-002550
02:27:42.380 --> 02:27:44.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na taripa. Hindi naman natin

asr-002551
02:27:44.360 --> 02:27:45.840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kontrolado yung customs, di ba?

asr-002552
02:27:45.920 --> 02:27:47.040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Hindi nyo naman kontrolado yun.

asr-002553
02:27:47.860 --> 02:27:48.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ang punto ko lang,

asr-002554
02:27:48.920 --> 02:27:51.020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Chairman and dear Secretaries,

asr-002555
02:27:51.580 --> 02:27:53.420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I'll ask this question first.

asr-002556
02:27:54.060 --> 02:27:56.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Why is it that the farm-to-market price

asr-002557
02:27:56.200 --> 02:27:58.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na bilihin ang ating mga

asr-002558
02:27:58.120 --> 02:28:00.520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: backyard ay

asr-002559
02:28:00.520 --> 02:28:02.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 90 to 120,

asr-002560
02:28:02.280 --> 02:28:04.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 110 pesos, na napakababa,

asr-002561
02:28:04.420 --> 02:28:06.040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: which is below their cost of production?

asr-002562
02:28:06.180 --> 02:28:07.220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kasi ang cost of production nila,

asr-002563
02:28:07.600 --> 02:28:09.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 130 pesos per kilo,

asr-002564
02:28:09.540 --> 02:28:11.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 140, lugi sila.

asr-002565
02:28:11.860 --> 02:28:13.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Bakit po ang presyo sa merkado

asr-002566
02:28:13.600 --> 02:28:14.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay napakamahal pa rin?

asr-002567
02:28:15.380 --> 02:28:17.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yan ang hindi ko maintindihan.

asr-002568
02:28:17.960 --> 02:28:20.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kasi ang taas ng inflation, di ba?

asr-002569
02:28:20.560 --> 02:28:22.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Let's face it, napakatas ng inflation.

asr-002570
02:28:23.000 --> 02:28:24.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We're one of the highest in Southeast Asia.

asr-002571
02:28:25.220 --> 02:28:26.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Galit na galit ang tao sa gobyerno.

asr-002572
02:28:27.380 --> 02:28:28.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Galit na galit ang tao sa presidente.

asr-002573
02:28:30.200 --> 02:28:30.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pero hindi ko maintindihan

asr-002574
02:28:31.580 --> 02:28:33.720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: bakit nahirap-nahirap ang ating mga magsasaka

asr-002575
02:28:33.720 --> 02:28:35.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa napakababang presyo

asr-002576
02:28:35.400 --> 02:28:36.720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng farmgate prices nila.

asr-002577
02:28:37.080 --> 02:28:38.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Wala pa tayong monitoring.

asr-002578
02:28:38.340 --> 02:28:41.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, I'm asking, what is the price

asr-002579
02:28:41.740 --> 02:28:42.840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: difference now

asr-002580
02:28:42.840 --> 02:28:44.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: between the farm-to-market

asr-002581
02:28:44.600 --> 02:28:46.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: farmgate price of pork

asr-002582
02:28:46.920 --> 02:28:47.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and poultry?

asr-002583
02:28:47.960 --> 02:28:49.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And why has it not

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02:28:49.900 --> 02:28:52.060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: gone down in the market

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02:28:52.060 --> 02:28:54.160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: itself? Bakit ganyan, Sek?

asr-002586
02:28:54.380 --> 02:28:56.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Magkano ang retail prices

asr-002587
02:28:56.160 --> 02:28:57.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng pork ngayon?

asr-002588
02:28:57.200 --> 02:28:59.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang liyempo, Mr. Chair, is P380.

asr-002589
02:28:59.600 --> 02:29:01.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasim-Pigay is P330.

asr-002590
02:29:01.740 --> 02:29:02.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: P330.

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02:29:02.620 --> 02:29:05.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang imported liyempo is

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02:29:05.100 --> 02:29:06.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: P270-P280.

asr-002593
02:29:07.880 --> 02:29:09.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang imported

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02:29:09.520 --> 02:29:11.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kasim-Pigay is

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02:29:11.520 --> 02:29:13.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: P240 yata.

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02:29:14.280 --> 02:29:15.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, so sinasabi nga,

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02:29:15.860 --> 02:29:17.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung

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02:29:17.960 --> 02:29:21.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmgate price,

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02:29:21.220 --> 02:29:22.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for example, this is from the DA,

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02:29:22.980 --> 02:29:24.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is P166.

asr-002601
02:29:25.700 --> 02:29:26.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Depende saan siguro,

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02:29:26.900 --> 02:29:27.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on average.

asr-002603
02:29:27.460 --> 02:29:30.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa amin sa Mindanao, P90-P100 lang.

asr-002604
02:29:30.380 --> 02:29:33.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos, ang retail is

asr-002605
02:29:33.160 --> 02:29:33.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: P380.

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02:29:34.620 --> 02:29:35.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Asalim po, Mr. Chair.

asr-002607
02:29:36.140 --> 02:29:38.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, assuming

asr-002608
02:29:38.100 --> 02:29:40.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: P90-P100,

asr-002609
02:29:41.100 --> 02:29:41.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: P120,

asr-002610
02:29:42.520 --> 02:29:44.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so, P380,

asr-002611
02:29:44.840 --> 02:29:46.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ganun yung gap from farmgate

asr-002612
02:29:46.700 --> 02:29:47.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to,

asr-002613
02:29:47.960 --> 02:29:49.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to wet market.

asr-002614
02:29:49.460 --> 02:29:51.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now, if we check

asr-002615
02:29:51.480 --> 02:29:52.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung DA data naman,

asr-002616
02:29:53.500 --> 02:29:54.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: P166

asr-002617
02:29:54.540 --> 02:29:56.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang farmgate price.

asr-002618
02:29:57.780 --> 02:29:58.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Farmgate.

asr-002619
02:29:59.540 --> 02:30:00.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: This is

asr-002620
02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:02.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: from Farmgate

asr-002621
02:30:02.020 --> 02:30:04.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 166. Pero...

asr-002622
02:30:04.180 --> 02:30:06.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: PSA data

asr-002623
02:30:06.040 --> 02:30:06.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: huya times.

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02:30:07.220 --> 02:30:09.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi, DA ang nagbigay.

asr-002625
02:30:10.400 --> 02:30:12.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Oh, DA. No, this is

asr-002626
02:30:12.060 --> 02:30:13.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Farmgate 166. Assuming lang

asr-002627
02:30:13.960 --> 02:30:15.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it's correct.

asr-002628
02:30:15.800 --> 02:30:17.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang production cost ng

asr-002629
02:30:17.340 --> 02:30:20.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers according to ProPork

asr-002630
02:30:20.160 --> 02:30:21.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is 182.

asr-002631
02:30:21.920 --> 02:30:23.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, ibig sabihin,

asr-002632
02:30:23.900 --> 02:30:25.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: binibili ng bentalo sa

asr-002633
02:30:25.860 --> 02:30:27.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 16 pesos palugi.

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02:30:28.600 --> 02:30:28.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: No?

asr-002635
02:30:28.700 --> 02:30:30.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: This, maraming probinsya po.

asr-002636
02:30:30.660 --> 02:30:32.720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 19 to 120 live weight

asr-002637
02:30:32.720 --> 02:30:34.520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Farmgate. Live weight and farmgate.

asr-002638
02:30:34.520 --> 02:30:35.060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sa Kasim,

asr-002639
02:30:36.580 --> 02:30:38.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 380 sa merkado. So, you can look,

asr-002640
02:30:38.920 --> 02:30:41.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you can see the, from 166

asr-002641
02:30:41.100 --> 02:30:42.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to

asr-002642
02:30:42.320 --> 02:30:44.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 380.

asr-002643
02:30:44.920 --> 02:30:46.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, 166,

asr-002644
02:30:47.040 --> 02:30:48.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 266,

asr-002645
02:30:48.780 --> 02:30:51.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 366. So, 220

asr-002646
02:30:51.140 --> 02:30:52.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pesos ang

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02:30:52.780 --> 02:30:54.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: difference between

asr-002648
02:30:54.660 --> 02:30:56.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Farmgate and retail.

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02:30:57.060 --> 02:30:58.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sinong kumikita ron?

asr-002650
02:30:58.700 --> 02:31:00.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah, Mr. Chair, kumikita

asr-002651
02:31:00.980 --> 02:31:02.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dyan, Mr. Chair, is retailer

asr-002652
02:31:02.600 --> 02:31:04.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and middleman, Mr. Chair.

asr-002653
02:31:04.540 --> 02:31:05.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun na nga. Now,

asr-002654
02:31:06.040 --> 02:31:10.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and then you're going to the question

asr-002655
02:31:10.740 --> 02:31:12.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of, are we

asr-002656
02:31:12.240 --> 02:31:14.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: monitoring yung mga

asr-002657
02:31:14.720 --> 02:31:16.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: imported na frozen?

asr-002658
02:31:17.160 --> 02:31:18.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Are we monitoring

asr-002659
02:31:18.240 --> 02:31:20.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: their cold

asr-002660
02:31:20.720 --> 02:31:21.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: storage facilities?

asr-002661
02:31:22.580 --> 02:31:24.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sila ba ay naglalabas o

asr-002662
02:31:24.480 --> 02:31:26.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hindi nila nilalabas? Yun din ang tanong.

asr-002663
02:31:26.540 --> 02:31:27.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because,

asr-002664
02:31:27.540 --> 02:31:28.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mr. Chair,

asr-002665
02:31:28.700 --> 02:31:30.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the same line, just to put it

asr-002666
02:31:30.840 --> 02:31:32.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the same line of

asr-002667
02:31:32.900 --> 02:31:35.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: thought, ang landed

asr-002668
02:31:35.200 --> 02:31:37.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: cost ng imported pork

asr-002669
02:31:37.080 --> 02:31:38.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is about

asr-002670
02:31:38.780 --> 02:31:39.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: $3

asr-002671
02:31:39.100 --> 02:31:43.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: right now. Yun ang submissions

asr-002672
02:31:43.080 --> 02:31:43.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: din ng DA.

asr-002673
02:31:44.460 --> 02:31:46.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: $3 is

asr-002674
02:31:46.120 --> 02:31:47.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 180 pesos.

asr-002675
02:31:49.620 --> 02:31:50.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

asr-002676
02:31:51.080 --> 02:31:52.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, pagka

asr-002677
02:31:52.260 --> 02:31:55.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 180 pesos yung landed cost,

asr-002678
02:31:55.820 --> 02:31:55.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pero

asr-002679
02:31:55.980 --> 02:31:58.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 270 to

asr-002680
02:31:58.040 --> 02:31:59.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 280,

asr-002681
02:32:00.400 --> 02:32:01.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: no, ang

asr-002682
02:32:01.020 --> 02:32:04.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: retail.

asr-002683
02:32:04.560 --> 02:32:05.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, malaki pa rin.

asr-002684
02:32:06.240 --> 02:32:07.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Malaki pa rin ng gap.

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02:32:08.120 --> 02:32:09.840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, Mr. Chairman, tanong ko lang sa

asr-002686
02:32:09.840 --> 02:32:10.220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Secretary,

asr-002687
02:32:11.000 --> 02:32:13.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: is there a price monitoring

asr-002688
02:32:13.920 --> 02:32:16.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: team? Does the DA have a

asr-002689
02:32:16.140 --> 02:32:18.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: price monitoring team that can

asr-002690
02:32:18.000 --> 02:32:19.720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: actually feed this to the DTI? Kasi

asr-002691
02:32:19.720 --> 02:32:21.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang DTI may powers po yan

asr-002692
02:32:21.360 --> 02:32:24.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa price monitoring,

asr-002693
02:32:24.100 --> 02:32:25.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: di ba? Kasi,

asr-002694
02:32:26.080 --> 02:32:27.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: naawa po ako sa gobyerno.

asr-002695
02:32:28.040 --> 02:32:30.040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Bugbog na bugbog sila sa taong bayan

asr-002696
02:32:30.040 --> 02:32:31.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kasi galit na galit yung mga farmers.

asr-002697
02:32:32.600 --> 02:32:33.700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Galit na galit yung tao.

asr-002698
02:32:34.320 --> 02:32:35.860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dahil ang mahal daw ng presyo ng

asr-002699
02:32:35.860 --> 02:32:38.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: produkto. Tapos yung mga magsasaka,

asr-002700
02:32:38.260 --> 02:32:40.060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: lugi sila. Hindi nila alam

asr-002701
02:32:40.060 --> 02:32:41.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: bakit ang taas ng presyo

asr-002702
02:32:41.940 --> 02:32:44.160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng bilihin, pero sa kanila

asr-002703
02:32:44.160 --> 02:32:45.680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang napakababa ng

asr-002704
02:32:45.680 --> 02:32:47.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: farmgate prices. Talagang it

asr-002705
02:32:47.880 --> 02:32:48.760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: blows the mind.

asr-002706
02:32:49.860 --> 02:32:51.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And I feel for

asr-002707
02:32:51.820 --> 02:32:52.340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: government.

asr-002708
02:32:53.680 --> 02:32:55.760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: But I know you're in a difficult spot,

asr-002709
02:32:56.040 --> 02:32:58.020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Secretary. Ano kayang mga hakbang na gaon?

asr-002710
02:32:58.040 --> 02:32:59.320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ano kayang gagawin po ng department

asr-002711
02:32:59.320 --> 02:33:01.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to do the price regulations and monitoring?

asr-002712
02:33:02.480 --> 02:33:03.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang analysis ko dyan,

asr-002713
02:33:04.060 --> 02:33:05.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, is ganito.

asr-002714
02:33:06.100 --> 02:33:08.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's a sort of perfect storm din

asr-002715
02:33:08.040 --> 02:33:09.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for the consumers,

asr-002716
02:33:09.680 --> 02:33:10.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for the pork industry.

asr-002717
02:33:11.560 --> 02:33:13.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nag-increase ang production,

asr-002718
02:33:14.160 --> 02:33:15.780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nag-increase ang importation,

asr-002719
02:33:16.200 --> 02:33:17.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bumaba ang demand.

asr-002720
02:33:17.540 --> 02:33:20.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang affordability ng tao.

asr-002721
02:33:20.460 --> 02:33:21.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So yun ang nangyari dyan.

asr-002722
02:33:21.620 --> 02:33:23.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya nag-collapse din lahat. Plus may ASF

asr-002723
02:33:23.960 --> 02:33:26.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: issue pa. Ang gagawin

asr-002724
02:33:26.020 --> 02:33:28.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng DA ngayon, we've actually,

asr-002725
02:33:28.040 --> 02:33:29.780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we've actually done steps already

asr-002726
02:33:29.780 --> 02:33:31.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to trigger yung

asr-002727
02:33:31.580 --> 02:33:33.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: safeguard duties. We've proposed

asr-002728
02:33:33.920 --> 02:33:35.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tariff increases.

asr-002729
02:33:36.440 --> 02:33:37.680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And with yung pag-trigger namin

asr-002730
02:33:37.680 --> 02:33:40.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na safeguard duties, pag nag-review

asr-002731
02:33:40.040 --> 02:33:41.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na ang tariff commission, at a certain

asr-002732
02:33:41.940 --> 02:33:43.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: point, X number

asr-002733
02:33:43.960 --> 02:33:45.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: of days, meron na kaming

asr-002734
02:33:45.700 --> 02:33:47.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: magiging power to

asr-002735
02:33:47.220 --> 02:33:49.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: do quantitative restriction

asr-002736
02:33:49.840 --> 02:33:51.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for up to 200 days.

asr-002737
02:33:52.720 --> 02:33:54.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So sa estimate ko,

asr-002738
02:33:55.220 --> 02:33:56.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: rough estimate

asr-002739
02:33:56.240 --> 02:33:58.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lang to, wag yung lagay itagal.

asr-002740
02:33:58.040 --> 02:33:59.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Lala lang sa bato yung aking sasabihin na time,

asr-002741
02:34:00.100 --> 02:34:01.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: plus or minus yan.

asr-002742
02:34:01.900 --> 02:34:03.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: By November 15,

asr-002743
02:34:04.180 --> 02:34:05.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: baka pwede na akong mag-suspend

asr-002744
02:34:05.840 --> 02:34:07.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng importation ng Kasimpigay at

asr-002745
02:34:07.960 --> 02:34:09.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Beli for 60 days.

asr-002746
02:34:09.860 --> 02:34:11.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Or stop of issuance of new

asr-002747
02:34:11.920 --> 02:34:13.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: SPSIC. Yun ho ang

asr-002748
02:34:13.760 --> 02:34:15.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hakbang na ginagawa. Pinlano na namin

asr-002749
02:34:15.860 --> 02:34:17.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ito a few months, but we cannot really announce this.

asr-002750
02:34:18.080 --> 02:34:19.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pag in-announce namin kaget to,

asr-002751
02:34:20.320 --> 02:34:21.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: actually, ayaw kong sabihin to.

asr-002752
02:34:23.180 --> 02:34:23.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasi,

asr-002753
02:34:23.580 --> 02:34:25.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kasi ayaw kong sabihin.

asr-002754
02:34:25.500 --> 02:34:26.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung sasabihin ko to,

asr-002755
02:34:26.720 --> 02:34:28.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: baka tumaas bigla

asr-002756
02:34:28.880 --> 02:34:29.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang mga presyo eh.

asr-002757
02:34:30.760 --> 02:34:31.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Inflationary.

asr-002758
02:34:32.280 --> 02:34:34.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That's why even sa mga Senate hearings,

asr-002759
02:34:34.860 --> 02:34:36.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Congressional hearings, sana hindi ako

asr-002760
02:34:36.800 --> 02:34:39.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: itanong sa mga volumes na i-import ko.

asr-002761
02:34:39.940 --> 02:34:41.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa mga ganitong gagawin namin

asr-002762
02:34:41.480 --> 02:34:43.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: masyado, kung pwede executive session

asr-002763
02:34:43.320 --> 02:34:45.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: because it will disrupt

asr-002764
02:34:45.320 --> 02:34:46.800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I understand.

asr-002765
02:34:47.080 --> 02:34:49.320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I understand. Lalaruin ng mga importers yan.

asr-002766
02:34:49.440 --> 02:34:51.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pero, then you penalize

asr-002767
02:34:51.620 --> 02:34:53.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: them for overpricing.

asr-002768
02:34:53.920 --> 02:34:55.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: That we have the power to penalize

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: them.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Goodness. With the DTI,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: di ba? We can do that.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: The DTI, sir.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: It's called predatory pricing.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ang dami natin namin pasan ng mga batas dito

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na sinama namin yun.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Lalo na sa, yung sa rice importation,

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: di ba? Yung pagkakit natin ng taripa.

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02:35:11.860 --> 02:35:14.560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We put a provision there on predatory pricing

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na hindi pwedeng tumaas

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng katakot-takot.

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02:35:18.340 --> 02:35:19.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ilang beses na tayo nandito.

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02:35:19.900 --> 02:35:21.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kaya minsan, di na ako nag-attend ng budget hearing

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02:35:21.820 --> 02:35:23.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa totoo lang. Kasi, paulit-ulit lang naman yung

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kwento eh. With your respect to the

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02:35:25.960 --> 02:35:27.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Secretary, I'm talking about many budgets

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02:35:27.980 --> 02:35:30.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: of many departments and I've been

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02:35:30.120 --> 02:35:30.800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to many.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If I may just add,

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02:35:31.800 --> 02:35:32.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you have the

asr-002789
02:35:32.920 --> 02:35:35.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: price app, you have the consumer

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02:35:35.920 --> 02:35:38.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: protection app. The DTI is

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02:35:38.040 --> 02:35:39.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: empowered to

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02:35:39.740 --> 02:35:42.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: call

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02:35:42.400 --> 02:35:46.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the retailers who are overpricing

asr-002794
02:35:46.260 --> 02:35:48.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or who are doing predatory pricing.

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02:35:48.520 --> 02:35:50.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You can put in place

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02:35:50.240 --> 02:35:51.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a suggested retail price

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and if it's over that,

asr-002798
02:35:54.340 --> 02:35:55.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the DTI can come in.

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02:35:55.960 --> 02:35:57.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, maybe

asr-002800
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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at least for pork,

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02:36:00.260 --> 02:36:01.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ayusin na natin ito. Because the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: information that was

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: relayed to me is the

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02:36:05.820 --> 02:36:08.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: local pork and hog industry

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is losing about 350 million pesos

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02:36:10.800 --> 02:36:11.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a day.

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02:36:11.820 --> 02:36:13.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa lugi nila. At marami na

asr-002808
02:36:13.980 --> 02:36:16.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang nagsasara. Dahil nga

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02:36:16.320 --> 02:36:18.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagbebenta ng palugi.

asr-002810
02:36:20.040 --> 02:36:22.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dagdag pa ng lugi dahil yung transport

asr-002811
02:36:22.320 --> 02:36:23.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: cost, etc.

asr-002812
02:36:24.000 --> 02:36:24.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

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02:36:25.960 --> 02:36:27.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what we're asking the department

asr-002814
02:36:27.980 --> 02:36:30.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is to strengthen

asr-002815
02:36:30.080 --> 02:36:31.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your links with the DTI and

asr-002816
02:36:31.980 --> 02:36:33.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: address at least focus

asr-002817
02:36:33.760 --> 02:36:35.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on the issue of pork

asr-002818
02:36:35.940 --> 02:36:37.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: prices at this time.

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02:36:37.560 --> 02:36:39.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mr. Chair, may I

asr-002820
02:36:39.980 --> 02:36:41.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: just add, Senator Subiri, we're

asr-002821
02:36:41.900 --> 02:36:43.800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: always pointing to the DTI

asr-002822
02:36:43.800 --> 02:36:45.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for price regulation

asr-002823
02:36:45.920 --> 02:36:47.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: but the reality is that the

asr-002824
02:36:47.980 --> 02:36:49.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Department of Agriculture has direct

asr-002825
02:36:49.920 --> 02:36:51.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: legal authority to inspect, monitor

asr-002826
02:36:51.920 --> 02:36:54.020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and penalize food price

asr-002827
02:36:54.020 --> 02:36:55.280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: gouging and illegal price

asr-002828
02:36:55.280 --> 02:36:55.520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: gouging.

asr-002829
02:36:55.960 --> 02:36:57.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Price manipulation. That's very clear

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02:36:57.980 --> 02:37:00.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: under RA 7581

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02:37:00.380 --> 02:37:02.160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: under the newly enacted

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02:37:02.160 --> 02:37:04.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: RA 12022

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02:37:04.740 --> 02:37:06.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the Anti-Agricultural

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02:37:06.240 --> 02:37:08.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Economic Sabotage Act.

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02:37:08.540 --> 02:37:09.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At ang bibigat,

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02:37:09.780 --> 02:37:12.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang bibigat ng aming linagay

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02:37:12.120 --> 02:37:13.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na mga parusa

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02:37:13.980 --> 02:37:15.680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: dyan. Sobrang lalaki ng

asr-002839
02:37:15.680 --> 02:37:18.340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: parusa. May imprisonment

asr-002840
02:37:18.340 --> 02:37:19.840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 5 to 15 years.

asr-002841
02:37:20.280 --> 02:37:21.660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pwede kayong mag-show cost

asr-002842
02:37:21.660 --> 02:37:24.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 2 million. Pwede para

asr-002843
02:37:24.000 --> 02:37:25.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa standard violations under the

asr-002844
02:37:25.900 --> 02:37:27.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Price Act. DA has the power

asr-002845
02:37:27.740 --> 02:37:29.720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: up to life imprisonment

asr-002846
02:37:29.720 --> 02:37:31.700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: under economic sabotage and

asr-002847
02:37:31.700 --> 02:37:33.840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 5 times the value of whatever they're

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02:37:33.840 --> 02:37:36.180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: selling. So gamitin po ninyo

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02:37:36.180 --> 02:37:37.760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung binigay na kapangyarihan

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02:37:37.760 --> 02:37:38.220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa DA.

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02:37:38.540 --> 02:37:41.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Madam, Mr. Chair, I totally agree with the

asr-002852
02:37:41.500 --> 02:37:44.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: good Senator. Sa part na yun

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02:37:44.020 --> 02:37:45.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pwede na kami doon.

asr-002854
02:37:45.660 --> 02:37:47.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Problema hindi ito yung problema ngayon.

asr-002855
02:37:47.700 --> 02:37:49.640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang problema ngayon, pababa ang presyo.

asr-002856
02:37:51.260 --> 02:37:52.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pababa ang presyo

asr-002857
02:37:52.140 --> 02:37:54.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng farmgate prices

asr-002858
02:37:54.820 --> 02:37:55.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but not the...

asr-002859
02:37:55.900 --> 02:37:58.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Retail prices also went down.

asr-002860
02:37:58.260 --> 02:38:00.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Based on our record, retail prices

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02:38:00.120 --> 02:38:03.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: also went down by 9.55%

asr-002862
02:38:03.120 --> 02:38:03.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for Kasim.

asr-002863
02:38:04.400 --> 02:38:06.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For Liempo, it's 7.05%.

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02:38:06.920 --> 02:38:09.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, bumaba din.

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02:38:09.980 --> 02:38:11.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Bumaba ng malaki dito. Bumaba ng

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02:38:11.960 --> 02:38:12.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: konti dito.

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02:38:13.200 --> 02:38:14.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sana po, Secretary.

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02:38:14.740 --> 02:38:17.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Wala ho kaming way na paano pataasin.

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02:38:17.220 --> 02:38:19.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I understand and I hope those rates

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02:38:19.980 --> 02:38:22.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: are true. Pero yun nga, yung lumalabas

asr-002871
02:38:22.200 --> 02:38:23.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na PSA rates, yung pagkain po

asr-002872
02:38:23.880 --> 02:38:25.480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay napakamahal. But anyway,

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02:38:25.900 --> 02:38:28.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: again, I said it's a very

asr-002874
02:38:28.260 --> 02:38:29.680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: difficult balancing act, Sec.

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02:38:30.340 --> 02:38:32.420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pero yung hindi ko na

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02:38:32.420 --> 02:38:33.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nakikita na yun, Mr. Secretary

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and Mr. Chairman. Dati,

asr-002878
02:38:36.460 --> 02:38:37.840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the Secretary of the DA

asr-002879
02:38:37.840 --> 02:38:40.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and the DTI Secretary

asr-002880
02:38:40.280 --> 02:38:42.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: umiikot yan sa iba't ibang

asr-002881
02:38:42.000 --> 02:38:43.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: merkado. Tinitignan ba?

asr-002882
02:38:44.140 --> 02:38:46.420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Overpriced ito. Okay na presyong

asr-002883
02:38:46.420 --> 02:38:48.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ito. Hindi ko nakikita po na yun,

asr-002884
02:38:48.360 --> 02:38:49.500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mr. Secretary. With your respect,

asr-002885
02:38:50.000 --> 02:38:52.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think the people just want to see

asr-002886
02:38:52.000 --> 02:38:54.340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: more action from the government

asr-002887
02:38:54.340 --> 02:38:55.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and actionable

asr-002888
02:38:55.300 --> 02:38:57.440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: on the ground.

asr-002889
02:38:58.060 --> 02:38:59.680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Di ba't trabaho ng AMAS yan?

asr-002890
02:39:00.400 --> 02:39:00.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: AMAS.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Anyway, nandiyan ba yung AMAS?

asr-002892
02:39:03.240 --> 02:39:04.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chairman, may ikot ko.

asr-002893
02:39:04.240 --> 02:39:06.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ito, kaibigan ko, si Tito Scarag.

asr-002894
02:39:06.740 --> 02:39:09.660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Barkada ko ito. This guy is magaling sa enforcement.

asr-002895
02:39:10.360 --> 02:39:12.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yan ang ipaikot mo sa mga merkado.

asr-002896
02:39:12.260 --> 02:39:14.020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pag nagalit yan, ay sigurado

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02:39:14.020 --> 02:39:15.340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: makikinig yung

asr-002898
02:39:15.340 --> 02:39:17.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: taong bayan sa kanya. This guy's a good

asr-002899
02:39:17.620 --> 02:39:19.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: enforcer. He's a good friend of ours.

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02:39:20.340 --> 02:39:21.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: May daily price index,

asr-002901
02:39:22.060 --> 02:39:23.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: di ba, nationwide? At

asr-002902
02:39:23.620 --> 02:39:24.860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nasa batas na yung,

asr-002903
02:39:25.300 --> 02:39:27.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Agribusiness Marketing Assistance Service

asr-002904
02:39:27.600 --> 02:39:30.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: will conduct regular market monitoring,

asr-002905
02:39:30.540 --> 02:39:31.940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: surprise inspections in

asr-002906
02:39:31.940 --> 02:39:33.940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: wet markets and urban trade hubs.

asr-002907
02:39:34.060 --> 02:39:34.840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Nasa batas po.

asr-002908
02:39:35.380 --> 02:39:37.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, we are actually

asr-002909
02:39:37.820 --> 02:39:40.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: inspecting daily. I have a daily report

asr-002910
02:39:40.040 --> 02:39:41.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: of all major markets.

asr-002911
02:39:42.140 --> 02:39:43.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And umiikot kami ng DTI talaga.

asr-002912
02:39:44.320 --> 02:39:46.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But normally,

asr-002913
02:39:46.220 --> 02:39:47.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: minomonitor na yung pag umikot kami

asr-002914
02:39:47.860 --> 02:39:49.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung pagtaas ng presyo.

asr-002915
02:39:49.300 --> 02:39:52.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung pag mababa yung presyo, hindi namin masyadong

asr-002916
02:39:52.020 --> 02:39:53.640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: namamonitor. But

asr-002917
02:39:53.640 --> 02:39:55.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we will look at it.

asr-002918
02:39:55.300 --> 02:39:56.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We will look into it also.

asr-002919
02:39:56.440 --> 02:39:58.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you, Sec. I just have a few more questions.

asr-002920
02:39:59.440 --> 02:40:01.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Baka Madam Aimee wants to interject.

asr-002921
02:40:01.540 --> 02:40:01.640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Okay.

asr-002922
02:40:02.740 --> 02:40:04.560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Mabilis na kasi mawawalan ako ng time.

asr-002923
02:40:05.640 --> 02:40:07.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So basically, on port

asr-002924
02:40:07.080 --> 02:40:08.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: impotentations, we've addressed that already today.

asr-002925
02:40:09.000 --> 02:40:11.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We really just have to monitor on the final

asr-002926
02:40:11.100 --> 02:40:12.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pricing and how to increase

asr-002927
02:40:12.980 --> 02:40:14.660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the live

asr-002928
02:40:14.660 --> 02:40:15.340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: live

asr-002929
02:40:15.340 --> 02:40:18.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: weight prices. And then

asr-002930
02:40:18.820 --> 02:40:20.420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: on the issue on rice,

asr-002931
02:40:21.520 --> 02:40:23.060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: your honors, Mr. Chairman,

asr-002932
02:40:23.060 --> 02:40:23.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: um,

asr-002933
02:40:25.300 --> 02:40:27.660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga rice farmers natin, of course, they're complaining,

asr-002934
02:40:27.800 --> 02:40:29.660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: they're crying, but napaka-taas ng presyo

asr-002935
02:40:29.660 --> 02:40:30.640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng bigas at

asr-002936
02:40:30.640 --> 02:40:32.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng palay na yun.

asr-002937
02:40:33.300 --> 02:40:35.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Basically, bigas, especially imported rice.

asr-002938
02:40:36.000 --> 02:40:37.480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Do you know what the price of the

asr-002939
02:40:37.480 --> 02:40:39.500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: imported rice is now, Sec? Even with

asr-002940
02:40:39.500 --> 02:40:41.440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the price fluctuation

asr-002941
02:40:41.440 --> 02:40:41.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng dollars?

asr-002942
02:40:42.980 --> 02:40:45.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa ngayon, ang imported rice

asr-002943
02:40:45.240 --> 02:40:49.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is about $450-$460

asr-002944
02:40:49.340 --> 02:40:50.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: per ton.

asr-002945
02:40:50.920 --> 02:40:52.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But ang freight, tumaas din eh.

asr-002946
02:40:52.960 --> 02:40:54.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: $40 per ton yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So,

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02:40:55.300 --> 02:40:57.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: you're assuming $500, $490 to

asr-002949
02:40:57.340 --> 02:40:58.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: $500 per ton yan.

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02:40:58.880 --> 02:41:01.020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Per kilo, Mr. Secretary, para at least

asr-002951
02:41:01.020 --> 02:41:03.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang imported rice should be

asr-002952
02:41:03.520 --> 02:41:05.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: about ₱45 to

asr-002953
02:41:05.260 --> 02:41:07.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ₱50 pesos per kilo.

asr-002954
02:41:07.200 --> 02:41:07.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Landed.

asr-002955
02:41:08.760 --> 02:41:09.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Retail na yan.

asr-002956
02:41:11.260 --> 02:41:13.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, kung ₱45 yun,

asr-002957
02:41:13.360 --> 02:41:15.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: minus ₱10, so ₱35 to

asr-002958
02:41:15.660 --> 02:41:19.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ₱40 pesos landed,

asr-002959
02:41:19.660 --> 02:41:19.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chairman.

asr-002960
02:41:19.960 --> 02:41:22.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Check yung tariff natin dyan,

asr-002961
02:41:22.960 --> 02:41:24.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: under the rice tarification law,

asr-002962
02:41:24.360 --> 02:41:24.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: di ba, you,

asr-002963
02:41:25.300 --> 02:41:27.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: you can allow importation as long as they

asr-002964
02:41:27.380 --> 02:41:28.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pay the exact tariff?

asr-002965
02:41:28.620 --> 02:41:31.340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Bumaba ba yung tariff ng imported rice

asr-002966
02:41:31.340 --> 02:41:32.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: as from before?

asr-002967
02:41:32.340 --> 02:41:35.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes. Dating, the RTL originally

asr-002968
02:41:35.320 --> 02:41:37.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is 35% tariff.

asr-002969
02:41:37.400 --> 02:41:39.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Now, it is at 15%, Mr. Chair.

asr-002970
02:41:40.060 --> 02:41:41.420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think that's, that is a

asr-002971
02:41:41.420 --> 02:41:43.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: problem, but we're, I know it's a

asr-002972
02:41:43.300 --> 02:41:45.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: balancing act once again, kasi imported rice

asr-002973
02:41:45.400 --> 02:41:47.460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: tayo talagang

asr-002974
02:41:47.460 --> 02:41:49.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: dumedepende

asr-002975
02:41:49.380 --> 02:41:51.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: para sa

asr-002976
02:41:51.180 --> 02:41:53.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pagkain ng taong bayan, pero

asr-002977
02:41:53.200 --> 02:41:55.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the farmers have

asr-002978
02:41:55.260 --> 02:41:57.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: given me feedback, sabi ng mga magsasaka,

asr-002979
02:41:57.140 --> 02:41:59.220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: hindi na nila nararamdaman yung

asr-002980
02:41:59.220 --> 02:42:01.420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung tariff, yung

asr-002981
02:42:01.420 --> 02:42:03.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: tulong sa mga magsasaka

asr-002982
02:42:03.360 --> 02:42:05.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: galing sa taripa ng imported rice.

asr-002983
02:42:05.820 --> 02:42:07.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Is there still a program

asr-002984
02:42:07.200 --> 02:42:09.480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ongoing, pagbigay po

asr-002985
02:42:09.480 --> 02:42:11.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nitong taripa

asr-002986
02:42:11.360 --> 02:42:13.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa ating mga magsasaka? Kasi yan

asr-002987
02:42:13.280 --> 02:42:15.020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang parang give and take, di ba? Sabi natin,

asr-002988
02:42:15.360 --> 02:42:17.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sige, magkakaroon tayo ng importation,

asr-002989
02:42:17.720 --> 02:42:19.520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pero yung taripa na ibibigay po,

asr-002990
02:42:19.700 --> 02:42:21.460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay papataw

asr-002991
02:42:21.460 --> 02:42:23.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: natin o ibibigay po natin dun sa

asr-002992
02:42:23.280 --> 02:42:25.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga importers, ibibigay namin.

asr-002993
02:42:25.260 --> 02:42:27.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sa inyo. So, were you able

asr-002994
02:42:27.400 --> 02:42:29.440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to follow through? Has the DA been able to follow

asr-002995
02:42:29.440 --> 02:42:31.500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: through with the assistance to rice

asr-002996
02:42:31.500 --> 02:42:33.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: farmers? Mr. Chair, tuloy-tuloy naman

asr-002997
02:42:33.260 --> 02:42:34.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung RSF natin.

asr-002998
02:42:35.780 --> 02:42:37.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tuloy-tuloy yung pagbigay,

asr-002999
02:42:37.360 --> 02:42:39.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but then, kung dapat na 30

asr-003000
02:42:39.300 --> 02:42:41.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: billion ng fund, dahil binabaan taripa,

asr-003001
02:42:41.680 --> 02:42:43.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang collection namin is ipabiba ng

asr-003002
02:42:43.280 --> 02:42:45.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 13 billion lang, or 15

asr-003003
02:42:45.280 --> 02:42:47.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: billion lang, depende sa taon. So,

asr-003004
02:42:47.540 --> 02:42:49.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yun lang din ang nabibigay namin.

asr-003005
02:42:49.780 --> 02:42:51.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, talagang mas

asr-003006
02:42:51.180 --> 02:42:53.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mababa yung nabibigay ngayon, dahil

asr-003007
02:42:53.280 --> 02:42:55.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mahina ang collection ho ng taripa.

asr-003008
02:42:55.260 --> 02:42:57.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: How is the efficiency rate of that, Secretary?

asr-003009
02:42:57.640 --> 02:42:58.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I mean, could you give the

asr-003010
02:42:58.940 --> 02:43:01.560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: committee an idea dun sa

asr-003011
02:43:01.560 --> 02:43:03.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: magkanong na tanggap ninyo

asr-003012
02:43:03.360 --> 02:43:05.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: last year, magkanong ninyo inabas,

asr-003013
02:43:05.280 --> 02:43:06.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and maybe we have a report on

asr-003014
02:43:06.960 --> 02:43:09.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: expenditure of that?

asr-003015
02:43:09.760 --> 02:43:10.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: O pagbigay po ninyo sa department?

asr-003016
02:43:10.880 --> 02:43:13.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair. Actually, I find it quite efficient

asr-003017
02:43:13.280 --> 02:43:15.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: naman yung pagdating doon, except for delayed

asr-003018
02:43:15.320 --> 02:43:17.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: funding sometimes. We will submit

asr-003019
02:43:17.280 --> 02:43:19.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: a report na lang, Mr. Chair, kasi maraming

asr-003020
02:43:19.040 --> 02:43:19.750
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: detalya ho yun.

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02:43:19.750 --> 02:43:21.340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you. I have only four seconds

asr-003021
02:43:21.340 --> 02:43:23.680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: left. Yung China ban on the Philippines

asr-003022
02:43:23.680 --> 02:43:25.040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: SEC on fertilizer,

asr-003023
02:43:25.260 --> 02:43:27.520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: malaking bagay yan. Alam mo naman,

asr-003024
02:43:27.660 --> 02:43:29.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: galit yung China sa atin.

asr-003025
02:43:29.640 --> 02:43:31.320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Gusto po nilang sakupin yung

asr-003026
02:43:31.320 --> 02:43:33.480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: West Philippine Sea. Ang

asr-003027
02:43:33.480 --> 02:43:35.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nangyari, because of that, ay

asr-003028
02:43:35.180 --> 02:43:37.220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nagkaroon din po sila ng instructions

asr-003029
02:43:37.220 --> 02:43:39.020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa mga fertilizer inputs,

asr-003030
02:43:39.620 --> 02:43:40.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: chemicals, and

asr-003031
02:43:40.900 --> 02:43:42.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pesticides to the Philippines.

asr-003032
02:43:43.340 --> 02:43:44.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Do we have a

asr-003033
02:43:44.400 --> 02:43:47.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: alternative? Does the DA have

asr-003034
02:43:47.300 --> 02:43:48.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: an alternative on this?

asr-003035
02:43:48.800 --> 02:43:51.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, ang unang una, we don't

asr-003036
02:43:51.280 --> 02:43:52.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: know of any official ban

asr-003037
02:43:52.800 --> 02:43:54.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng China to the

asr-003038
02:43:54.920 --> 02:43:57.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Philippines. May mga tsismis

asr-003039
02:43:57.140 --> 02:43:58.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na gano'n, but

asr-003040
02:43:58.800 --> 02:44:00.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: unsubstantiated pa

asr-003041
02:44:00.660 --> 02:44:02.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na naman. So, sa ngayon,

asr-003042
02:44:02.980 --> 02:44:04.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tuloy-tuloy naman ang flow ng

asr-003043
02:44:04.460 --> 02:44:06.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fertilizer. In fact, yesterday,

asr-003044
02:44:06.760 --> 02:44:08.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I consulted with our

asr-003045
02:44:08.360 --> 02:44:11.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fertilizer and pesticide authority,

asr-003046
02:44:11.740 --> 02:44:12.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and this morning,

asr-003047
02:44:12.580 --> 02:44:15.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: communication na with the industry,

asr-003048
02:44:15.600 --> 02:44:17.160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is tuloy-tuloy naman yung pasok.

asr-003049
02:44:17.300 --> 02:44:18.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang problema lang talaga, mas

asr-003050
02:44:18.880 --> 02:44:20.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mahal dahil sa fuel

asr-003051
02:44:20.720 --> 02:44:22.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: state of fuel prices.

asr-003052
02:44:22.880 --> 02:44:24.440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: But, with that said,

asr-003053
02:44:24.920 --> 02:44:27.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Secretary, what if there's a possibility na magkaroon

asr-003054
02:44:27.100 --> 02:44:29.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng ban? Have you thought about coming up with

asr-003055
02:44:29.000 --> 02:44:30.460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: alternative avenues for

asr-003056
02:44:30.460 --> 02:44:33.160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fertilizer? Oh, yes. Mr. Chair,

asr-003057
02:44:33.800 --> 02:44:34.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: there's alternative

asr-003058
02:44:34.540 --> 02:44:37.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fertilizers, no? Of course,

asr-003059
02:44:37.220 --> 02:44:38.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: chicken manure is one from

asr-003060
02:44:38.740 --> 02:44:40.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: processed chicken manure, no?

asr-003061
02:44:41.400 --> 02:44:43.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pati yung local industry

asr-003062
02:44:43.080 --> 02:44:45.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: natin dito, medyo marami

asr-003063
02:44:45.360 --> 02:44:47.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng gumagawa, no? That's the

asr-003064
02:44:47.080 --> 02:44:49.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: positive side. And the DA is pushing for

asr-003065
02:44:49.140 --> 02:44:51.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that composting system

asr-003066
02:44:51.240 --> 02:44:53.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for chicken manure and

asr-003067
02:44:53.100 --> 02:44:54.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: other

asr-003068
02:44:54.920 --> 02:44:57.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: by-product ng ating mga

asr-003069
02:44:57.940 --> 02:45:00.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: livestock sector. But then, we have

asr-003070
02:45:00.000 --> 02:45:04.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: of foil air fertilizers, biofertilizers, and soil conditioners

asr-003071
02:45:04.080 --> 02:45:06.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na mas mura and equally as effective.

asr-003072
02:45:06.720 --> 02:45:09.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kailangan lang tanggapin ng ating mga magsasaka

asr-003073
02:45:09.200 --> 02:45:13.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na these are the new alternatives that is available

asr-003074
02:45:13.940 --> 02:45:19.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at a lower price per hectare at mas makanda pa ang kita nila.

asr-003075
02:45:20.120 --> 02:45:25.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In fact, I have a personal farm na pinabili ko sa anak ko

asr-003076
02:45:25.100 --> 02:45:26.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at tinanimang ko ng bigasa.

asr-003077
02:45:26.800 --> 02:45:28.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Hindi ako gumamit ng urea.

asr-003078
02:45:28.020 --> 02:45:32.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And the margins they made were quite okay

asr-003079
02:45:32.040 --> 02:45:35.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: using these alternative systems, Mr. Chair.

asr-003080
02:45:35.620 --> 02:45:37.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you, Chairman, Mr. Secretary.

asr-003081
02:45:37.380 --> 02:45:40.460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: But aside from the alternative systems,

asr-003082
02:45:40.580 --> 02:45:42.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think one of the reasons kasi pinapromote ko din

asr-003083
02:45:42.600 --> 02:45:45.560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung organic fertilizer, it's the volume, Secretary,

asr-003084
02:45:45.740 --> 02:45:48.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kasi kailangan mo sa isang bag ng urea,

asr-003085
02:45:48.860 --> 02:45:52.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kailangan mo ng isang tuneladang chicken manure.

asr-003086
02:45:52.740 --> 02:45:54.780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kaya yung mga farmers na iba,

asr-003087
02:45:55.740 --> 02:45:58.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: wala silang capacity to put all these,

asr-003088
02:45:58.020 --> 02:46:00.680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the large amounts of organic fertilizer

asr-003089
02:46:00.680 --> 02:46:01.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to be able to be spread out.

asr-003090
02:46:01.980 --> 02:46:04.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pero I'm with you 1,000% because it is a soil enhancer

asr-003091
02:46:04.900 --> 02:46:07.040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and it rejuvenates the soil.

asr-003092
02:46:07.660 --> 02:46:09.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: But my question talaga is,

asr-003093
02:46:09.620 --> 02:46:13.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think we should look into other avenues

asr-003094
02:46:13.400 --> 02:46:16.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: of fertilizer distribution and importation

asr-003095
02:46:16.920 --> 02:46:19.020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: from other friendly countries like Indonesia

asr-003096
02:46:19.020 --> 02:46:24.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: or Malaysia where they have petroleum products

asr-003097
02:46:24.900 --> 02:46:27.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kasi urea is a byproduct of petroleum.

asr-003098
02:46:27.200 --> 02:46:30.440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So kailangan natin maghanap ng bagong avenues

asr-003099
02:46:30.440 --> 02:46:33.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: just in case, Secretary, we never know where this escalates,

asr-003100
02:46:34.220 --> 02:46:36.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: but just in case, Mr. Secretary.

asr-003101
02:46:36.900 --> 02:46:40.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So just a little information, point of information,

asr-003102
02:46:40.720 --> 02:46:42.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: para we don't get caught off guard,

asr-003103
02:46:42.500 --> 02:46:44.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: particularly on importation and inputs.

asr-003104
02:46:46.740 --> 02:46:48.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: You know, yesterday, Mr. Chairman,

asr-003105
02:46:48.520 --> 02:46:51.720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I had a talk with one of the members of the Central Bank.

asr-003106
02:46:52.220 --> 02:46:55.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: My worry is there is no actionable,

asr-003107
02:46:55.200 --> 02:46:57.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: there's no action on the,

asr-003108
02:46:57.200 --> 02:46:59.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: increase on dollar rates.

asr-003109
02:46:59.520 --> 02:47:01.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Parang ang gusto yata ng Central Bank

asr-003110
02:47:01.980 --> 02:47:04.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: is let it go where it will go.

asr-003111
02:47:05.740 --> 02:47:07.680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Delikado po yan, Mr. Chairman.

asr-003112
02:47:07.900 --> 02:47:09.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think we should also, in the budget hearings

asr-003113
02:47:09.820 --> 02:47:11.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: or deliberations of the Central Bank,

asr-003114
02:47:11.380 --> 02:47:14.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I would like to ask Banco Central Governor Remolino

asr-003115
02:47:14.260 --> 02:47:16.640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na napakahirap yan because

asr-003116
02:47:16.640 --> 02:47:18.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: although ang gusto daw nila

asr-003117
02:47:18.580 --> 02:47:20.660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: is to promote exports,

asr-003118
02:47:21.640 --> 02:47:22.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: of what?

asr-003119
02:47:22.880 --> 02:47:25.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We cannot just promote exports biglaan.

asr-003120
02:47:25.200 --> 02:47:27.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We have to strengthen the industry.

asr-003121
02:47:27.200 --> 02:47:29.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: To be able to promote the exports.

asr-003122
02:47:29.920 --> 02:47:30.840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So for the meantime,

asr-003123
02:47:31.220 --> 02:47:32.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pabayaan lang po natin na

asr-003124
02:47:32.820 --> 02:47:35.660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: let the peso fall

asr-003125
02:47:35.660 --> 02:47:37.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to where it may against the dollar.

asr-003126
02:47:38.000 --> 02:47:40.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kawawa po lahat ng kababayan natin.

asr-003127
02:47:40.220 --> 02:47:40.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kawawa po.

asr-003128
02:47:41.420 --> 02:47:43.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: From fuel, from gasoline,

asr-003129
02:47:43.320 --> 02:47:45.160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: from imported products,

asr-003130
02:47:45.340 --> 02:47:46.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: lahat ay imported.

asr-003131
02:47:46.320 --> 02:47:48.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pati sa agrikultura na yun,

asr-003132
02:47:48.660 --> 02:47:50.860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pesticides and fertilizers, all imported.

asr-003133
02:47:51.600 --> 02:47:52.860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yung equipment nila,

asr-003134
02:47:53.020 --> 02:47:55.500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: wala namang kubota ginagawa dito na tractor.

asr-003135
02:47:55.500 --> 02:47:57.040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Lahat po ay galing Japan,

asr-003136
02:47:57.200 --> 02:47:59.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: China or the US,

asr-003137
02:47:59.400 --> 02:48:00.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ford tractors.

asr-003138
02:48:00.320 --> 02:48:01.460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Everything is imported.

asr-003139
02:48:02.220 --> 02:48:04.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kaya naawa po ako sa ating mga magsasaka.

asr-003140
02:48:04.460 --> 02:48:07.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think it's a perfect storm

asr-003141
02:48:07.380 --> 02:48:08.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: as you said earlier on the El Nino.

asr-003142
02:48:09.000 --> 02:48:10.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think it's also a perfect storm

asr-003143
02:48:10.300 --> 02:48:13.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: na bumababa yung presyo ng value

asr-003144
02:48:13.620 --> 02:48:15.160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ng peso sa dollar.

asr-003145
02:48:15.760 --> 02:48:17.840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Tapos tumataas pa ang presyo ng gasolina.

asr-003146
02:48:19.160 --> 02:48:19.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ang hirap.

asr-003147
02:48:20.140 --> 02:48:21.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ang hirap po ng situation ng sekretary.

asr-003148
02:48:22.060 --> 02:48:22.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I don't blame you, Sec.

asr-003149
02:48:23.220 --> 02:48:24.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: You know, pumapayat ka nga eh.

asr-003150
02:48:24.620 --> 02:48:26.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kaya naawa ako sir.

asr-003151
02:48:26.120 --> 02:48:26.780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pumapayat si sekretary.

asr-003152
02:48:27.200 --> 02:48:28.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dati malusog yan.

asr-003153
02:48:29.040 --> 02:48:29.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ano yung pumapayat?

asr-003154
02:48:30.040 --> 02:48:31.440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dahil siguro sa stress yan.

asr-003155
02:48:32.040 --> 02:48:34.680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, pinapatawa lang po kayo, Sec.

asr-003156
02:48:34.700 --> 02:48:35.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I don't want to put you in that seat.

asr-003157
02:48:36.020 --> 02:48:38.440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We've been friends for 35 years.

asr-003158
02:48:39.040 --> 02:48:40.420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, ang akin lang is,

asr-003159
02:48:41.360 --> 02:48:43.640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I hope also that the House of Representatives

asr-003160
02:48:43.640 --> 02:48:45.520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: take note of the bills that we passed

asr-003161
02:48:45.520 --> 02:48:48.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: on the extension services.

asr-003162
02:48:48.700 --> 02:48:51.160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think the secretary needs that law to be passed

asr-003163
02:48:51.160 --> 02:48:53.660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: because the DA needs extension services

asr-003164
02:48:53.660 --> 02:48:55.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to really go to the ground

asr-003165
02:48:55.200 --> 02:48:57.160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and be felt in the ground.

asr-003166
02:48:57.200 --> 02:49:00.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We cannot just...

asr-003167
02:49:00.200 --> 02:49:01.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sorry na lang ha.

asr-003168
02:49:01.480 --> 02:49:06.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Makagalit sa akin yung mga PAO and mga MAO.

asr-003169
02:49:06.580 --> 02:49:08.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Municipal Agricultural Officers.

asr-003170
02:49:08.240 --> 02:49:09.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We need provincial agricultural officers.

asr-003171
02:49:10.460 --> 02:49:12.680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: The DA needs people on the ground

asr-003172
02:49:12.680 --> 02:49:15.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to tell them what is going on from the top.

asr-003173
02:49:15.800 --> 02:49:18.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: What are the reforms being done on the ground?

asr-003174
02:49:18.900 --> 02:49:20.840
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kailangan talagang nilang sundalo sa baba.

asr-003175
02:49:21.620 --> 02:49:25.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, I just have one last if I may, Mr. Chairman.

asr-003176
02:49:25.320 --> 02:49:26.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Paano nila ako magsisecond round?

asr-003177
02:49:27.200 --> 02:49:29.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

asr-003178
02:49:29.760 --> 02:49:31.520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dito sa...

asr-003179
02:49:31.520 --> 02:49:36.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, at least, we talked about alternatives on fertilizers

asr-003180
02:49:36.000 --> 02:49:38.780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and inputs from other countries.

asr-003181
02:49:39.060 --> 02:49:41.340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We have to discuss how we can also tame

asr-003182
02:49:41.340 --> 02:49:45.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the high inflation rates na talagang piktado

asr-003183
02:49:45.180 --> 02:49:46.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung taong bayan natin.

asr-003184
02:49:46.760 --> 02:49:49.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Also, due to the fact of the falling peso to the dollar.

asr-003185
02:49:51.960 --> 02:49:54.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Some good news, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Secretary.

asr-003186
02:49:54.740 --> 02:49:56.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We passed the Kawayan Act,

asr-003187
02:49:56.580 --> 02:49:57.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the Bamboo Law,

asr-003188
02:49:57.200 --> 02:49:58.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and we passed the DPR Act.

asr-003189
02:49:58.200 --> 02:49:58.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We passed the DPR Act.

asr-003190
02:49:58.240 --> 02:50:00.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Finally, both House and the Senate

asr-003191
02:50:00.960 --> 02:50:02.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: will be meeting during the break

asr-003192
02:50:02.380 --> 02:50:05.460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to come up with an acceptable language

asr-003193
02:50:05.460 --> 02:50:07.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: for the Bicameral Conference Committee report.

asr-003194
02:50:08.260 --> 02:50:10.500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think we're leaning towards the DA again

asr-003195
02:50:10.500 --> 02:50:17.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: as being the number one source of motivation

asr-003196
02:50:17.900 --> 02:50:20.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and moral support for this law to pass.

asr-003197
02:50:21.000 --> 02:50:25.160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kasi matagal po yung away ninyo sa DNR, sa DTI, di ba po?

asr-003198
02:50:25.160 --> 02:50:26.680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, ang ginawa po natin, ako,

asr-003199
02:50:27.200 --> 02:50:30.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: may bias to the DA because I'm also a resident agriculturist

asr-003200
02:50:30.900 --> 02:50:32.540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and a licensed agriculturist at that.

asr-003201
02:50:33.180 --> 02:50:37.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We can now promote high-value farming

asr-003202
02:50:37.740 --> 02:50:39.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: like with kawayan, bamboo.

asr-003203
02:50:40.760 --> 02:50:42.540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yesterday, I was in Bay Laguna

asr-003204
02:50:42.540 --> 02:50:44.680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: buying a bonsai, bogambilya.

asr-003205
02:50:45.440 --> 02:50:46.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Napaka-mahal.

asr-003206
02:50:46.900 --> 02:50:49.540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At sabi ko nga, isang bogambilya lang na maganda

asr-003207
02:50:49.540 --> 02:50:53.160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ay napaka-laki na ng income ng farmer na ito.

asr-003208
02:50:53.160 --> 02:50:56.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, I think we should start looking into other

asr-003209
02:50:56.100 --> 02:50:57.160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: high-value companies.

asr-003210
02:50:57.200 --> 02:50:59.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We can also concentrate on plantation crops

asr-003211
02:50:59.940 --> 02:51:02.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: for our farmers para maiba din po yung dumami din po ito,

asr-003212
02:51:02.960 --> 02:51:04.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: lumakas po ang kanilang kita at benta.

asr-003213
02:51:05.000 --> 02:51:07.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, I hope we can also concentrate, Sec,

asr-003214
02:51:08.040 --> 02:51:12.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: not only on plantation crops like corn, like sugar,

asr-003215
02:51:12.820 --> 02:51:16.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: like, of course, rice.

asr-003216
02:51:17.360 --> 02:51:20.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We can look into high-value horticulture.

asr-003217
02:51:20.860 --> 02:51:23.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sana po buhayin ninyo pong mga department,

asr-003218
02:51:24.180 --> 02:51:26.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa department, yung mga bureau ninyo ng horticulture

asr-003219
02:51:26.900 --> 02:51:27.760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and high-value crops.

asr-003220
02:51:27.880 --> 02:51:30.780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Nandyan si Usec Sheryl, high-value crops yan.

asr-003221
02:51:31.320 --> 02:51:32.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: That is a shining light.

asr-003222
02:51:33.740 --> 02:51:35.560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Alam mo paano ko nahanap po, Mr. Chairman,

asr-003223
02:51:35.700 --> 02:51:36.660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung bogambilya na yan?

asr-003224
02:51:37.280 --> 02:51:37.640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Facebook.

asr-003225
02:51:38.400 --> 02:51:39.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Facebook lang.

asr-003226
02:51:39.180 --> 02:51:40.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Gagaling na nila mag-market.

asr-003227
02:51:40.640 --> 02:51:42.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, pag nakita mo Facebook, nandyan yung address.

asr-003228
02:51:42.900 --> 02:51:44.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Puntahan ng mga buyers.

asr-003229
02:51:44.380 --> 02:51:46.720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: They told me they, because of Facebook market,

asr-003230
02:51:46.940 --> 02:51:48.860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang dami po nilang naibibenta.

asr-003231
02:51:49.000 --> 02:51:51.480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, there are other opportunities for farmers

asr-003232
02:51:51.480 --> 02:51:54.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: with small areas that can make a lot of money.

asr-003233
02:51:54.960 --> 02:51:56.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, we can look into that.

asr-003234
02:51:56.400 --> 02:51:57.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Because at the end of the day,

asr-003235
02:51:57.480 --> 02:52:00.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: ang gusto po natin, taasan po ang kita ng ating mga magsasaka.

asr-003236
02:52:00.520 --> 02:52:03.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At hindi lamang po silang nakabinbin,

asr-003237
02:52:03.480 --> 02:52:07.020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nakasalalay sa isang monocrop.

asr-003238
02:52:07.240 --> 02:52:09.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I hope that we can do that also, Secretary.

asr-003239
02:52:09.640 --> 02:52:11.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: May we just ask for a comment from the Secretary?

asr-003240
02:52:12.620 --> 02:52:16.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Definitely, Mr. Chair, horticulture is on the agenda.

asr-003241
02:52:17.100 --> 02:52:18.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We have a small budget for that.

asr-003242
02:52:19.240 --> 02:52:23.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Plus, the DA, along with the DTI and other government agencies,

asr-003243
02:52:23.340 --> 02:52:26.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we're actually sponsoring sa Japan,

asr-003244
02:52:26.400 --> 02:52:33.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we will have a major booth in a horticulture show in Yokohama in March 2027.

asr-003245
02:52:33.800 --> 02:52:36.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Maybe may imbita ko kayo doon.

asr-003246
02:52:36.560 --> 02:52:45.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At I really see, personally see that horticulture is an alternative business

asr-003247
02:52:45.260 --> 02:52:49.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for our farmers and fisher folks.

asr-003248
02:52:49.380 --> 02:52:54.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron niyang mga plants na binibenta for 20,000 pesos, 10,000 pesos,

asr-003249
02:52:54.140 --> 02:52:55.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or kids man, o ganoon.

asr-003250
02:52:56.400 --> 02:52:59.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Even baka sa Benguet, pwede na magkaroon ng tulips,

asr-003251
02:53:00.020 --> 02:53:02.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung type na ganoon, at magaganda pa.

asr-003252
02:53:02.560 --> 02:53:03.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Magandang pag-asa dyan.

asr-003253
02:53:04.280 --> 02:53:10.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nakita ko sa ibang bansa na well-regulated and well-developed yan,

asr-003254
02:53:10.440 --> 02:53:11.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kaya tulad ng Thailand.

asr-003255
02:53:12.700 --> 02:53:17.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So gusto nating tularan yun at maging major industry din.

asr-003256
02:53:17.540 --> 02:53:17.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you, sir.

asr-003257
02:53:18.200 --> 02:53:18.500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you.

asr-003258
02:53:18.580 --> 02:53:21.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kasi ako, Mr. Chairman, may ilig ako sa ornamental plants.

asr-003259
02:53:21.180 --> 02:53:23.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So tama po sinabi yung Secretary, orchids.

asr-003260
02:53:23.960 --> 02:53:26.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: As a matter of fact, namili po ako nung isang araw ng May,

asr-003261
02:53:26.400 --> 02:53:32.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: maple trees, yung mga maple plants na yung nga lang mukhang mariwana,

asr-003262
02:53:32.540 --> 02:53:35.340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: baka marid bigla yung farm ko, pero hindi mariwana yun.

asr-003263
02:53:35.640 --> 02:53:37.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Maple trees yun na seedlings.

asr-003264
02:53:38.140 --> 02:53:40.460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ba, tagwa 1,500 din, kada isa, 1,000.

asr-003265
02:53:40.720 --> 02:53:42.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So laki din ang income.

asr-003266
02:53:42.440 --> 02:53:46.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So tama po si Secretary, there's a lot of things that we can do here in the Philippines

asr-003267
02:53:46.620 --> 02:53:51.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: that can really augment the farmers, not only focusing on our plantation crops.

asr-003268
02:53:52.200 --> 02:53:56.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And finally, Mr. Chairman, so ayong information sa kawayan, Secretary,

asr-003269
02:53:56.400 --> 02:53:59.540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: malapit na po yan, baka matulungan niyo po kami.

asr-003270
02:53:59.640 --> 02:54:03.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We're leaning towards the DAS, the Implementing Agency for that SEC.

asr-003271
02:54:03.280 --> 02:54:04.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Okay lang po sa inyo yan.

asr-003272
02:54:04.440 --> 02:54:13.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We support that fully and I'm an avid believer in the bamboo industry and its benefits, Mr. Chair.

asr-003273
02:54:13.560 --> 02:54:14.020
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you.

asr-003274
02:54:14.160 --> 02:54:19.720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Oo nga, kasi yung pati nga airport namin sa Bukidnon, we're retrofitting it with bamboo inside.

asr-003275
02:54:19.720 --> 02:54:25.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yung gagawin na yata, I think, in the Region 8 sa Tacloban Airport,

asr-003276
02:54:25.140 --> 02:54:26.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: they already used bamboo.

asr-003277
02:54:26.400 --> 02:54:28.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Inside for the finishing.

asr-003278
02:54:28.540 --> 02:54:33.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So ginagawa din po namin sa Bukidnon yan with our Bukidnon Airport using Bukidnon bamboo.

asr-003279
02:54:33.560 --> 02:54:35.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So thank you, Secretary, for the support there.

asr-003280
02:54:35.360 --> 02:54:40.520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We have actually a huge buyer in Cagayan de Oro.

asr-003281
02:54:40.760 --> 02:54:41.780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I forget the name.

asr-003282
02:54:42.200 --> 02:54:44.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yung kay Cito Lorenzo at Rizone.

asr-003283
02:54:45.280 --> 02:54:48.480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: They buy whatever they can produce there na bamboo.

asr-003284
02:54:48.660 --> 02:54:50.640
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At magagandang pong farmgate prices nila.

asr-003285
02:54:51.180 --> 02:54:53.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So marami po kaming farmers, Mr. Chairman.

asr-003286
02:54:54.160 --> 02:54:56.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dati, ang subsistence farmgate.

asr-003287
02:54:56.400 --> 02:54:59.680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Farmers lang po sila, corn and plant rice.

asr-003288
02:54:59.840 --> 02:55:00.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ngayon, bamboo na sila.

asr-003289
02:55:00.880 --> 02:55:02.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: They're making a lot of money out of the bamboo.

asr-003290
02:55:03.200 --> 02:55:07.460
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And tamas talaga yung kanilang livelihood opportunities, Your Honor.

asr-003291
02:55:07.540 --> 02:55:11.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So finally, I will be remiss to ask, if I don't ask this,

asr-003292
02:55:11.360 --> 02:55:14.060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: kasi po ako yung taga, of course, taga Bukidnon po ako,

asr-003293
02:55:14.160 --> 02:55:15.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pero originally taga Negro-Soxidental.

asr-003294
02:55:16.640 --> 02:55:21.420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kamag-anak ko yan, na malayo, si Paul Ascuna, yung inyong SRA chairman,

asr-003295
02:55:22.420 --> 02:55:24.160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: on the RSSI.

asr-003296
02:55:24.780 --> 02:55:26.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kami natamaan din po kami sa Bukidnon.

asr-003297
02:55:26.460 --> 02:55:30.540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We appreciate a lot of the work that SRA has been doing.

asr-003298
02:55:30.680 --> 02:55:34.360
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We're just seeking more support from the mother organization, the DA,

asr-003299
02:55:34.960 --> 02:55:36.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and the DSWD.

asr-003300
02:55:36.240 --> 02:55:39.220
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We'd like to thank Secretary Rex Gatchalian,

asr-003301
02:55:39.340 --> 02:55:42.420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nagbigay po siya ng tulong sa mga farmers na natamaan ng RSSI.

asr-003302
02:55:43.200 --> 02:55:45.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ito po, sa marami pong nanunood na yan,

asr-003303
02:55:45.300 --> 02:55:51.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: at nakikinig, yung RSSI, ito po isang peste na tumatama po sa atin sa industriya ng tubo.

asr-003304
02:55:51.320 --> 02:55:54.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Bukidnon is the second largest producer of sugar in the country,

asr-003305
02:55:54.620 --> 02:55:56.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: next to Negro-Soxidental.

asr-003306
02:55:56.400 --> 02:56:01.760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And malaking epekto po ito, chairman, sa ating mga magsasaka.

asr-003307
02:56:02.260 --> 02:56:04.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Pag natamaan po silang ginagawa po nila,

asr-003308
02:56:04.460 --> 02:56:12.660
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: itong SRA na pesting ito, kinakain po nila yung dahon ng mga tubo ng tanim.

asr-003309
02:56:13.200 --> 02:56:19.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At dahil dyan, napakalaki ng gastos, of course, if you use pesticides for the prevention of this.

asr-003310
02:56:20.860 --> 02:56:24.060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kung sa Bisaya, padayon lang po, padayon sa inyong programa.

asr-003311
02:56:24.060 --> 02:56:25.540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At tuloy nyo lang po.

asr-003312
02:56:26.400 --> 02:56:29.800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We just want you to know that we don't want to kill the sugar industry as well.

asr-003313
02:56:30.500 --> 02:56:33.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We want to make sure that the sugar industry survives.

asr-003314
02:56:33.800 --> 02:56:39.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: This is still a very important product for our people, lalo na sa mga farmers.

asr-003315
02:56:39.920 --> 02:56:46.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And this time, 90% po, dati ka po sinabi nyo po, sugar farmers, mga hasyendero.

asr-003316
02:56:46.600 --> 02:56:49.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ngayon po, 90% po ay small farmers.

asr-003317
02:56:49.940 --> 02:56:52.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: These are agrarian reform beneficiaries.

asr-003318
02:56:52.200 --> 02:56:56.380
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And I'd like to ask an opinion of the good gentleman,

asr-003319
02:56:56.400 --> 02:56:59.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: from Cabangkalan, my hometown of Cabangkalan,

asr-003320
02:57:00.520 --> 02:57:02.060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: on his opinion.

asr-003321
02:57:02.340 --> 02:57:07.340
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And if he needs more help, maybe he can say it today, Mr. Chairman,

asr-003322
02:57:07.980 --> 02:57:11.820
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: lalo na in light of this fact of the RSSI and the El Nino.

asr-003323
02:57:12.200 --> 02:57:16.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: May we recognize also a few moments to our SRA chairman.

asr-003324
02:57:16.340 --> 02:57:19.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Maybe he may need more help that we can infuse to the budget of the DA

asr-003325
02:57:19.980 --> 02:57:23.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: to help on this crisis, Your Honor, Mr. Chairman.

asr-003326
02:57:23.720 --> 02:57:25.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, go ahead, Mr. Escona.

asr-003327
02:57:26.400 --> 02:57:27.400
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-003328
02:57:27.780 --> 02:57:31.040
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Thank you, Senator Subiri.

asr-003329
02:57:31.480 --> 02:57:36.580
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Yes po, we've been fighting RSSI for a couple of years in Luzon

asr-003330
02:57:36.580 --> 02:57:40.040
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: and in Negros, two years in Bukidnon.

asr-003331
02:57:40.160 --> 02:57:41.020
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: This is the first year.

asr-003332
02:57:41.600 --> 02:57:45.660
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Last year, we tried our best to quarantine Bukidnon

asr-003333
02:57:45.660 --> 02:57:49.540
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: and protect it from RSSI coming from Negros.

asr-003334
02:57:49.540 --> 02:57:54.820
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: However, it arrived in Davao and somehow made its way to Bukidnon.

asr-003335
02:57:55.480 --> 02:57:55.680
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Now,

asr-003336
02:57:56.400 --> 02:58:01.360
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: yes, we do need more support, especially budget-wise.

asr-003337
02:58:01.360 --> 02:58:09.980
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: We greatly appreciate the help of the DA by extending budget down to SRA to help.

asr-003338
02:58:10.740 --> 02:58:14.160
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Concurrently, we're using pesticides, which is very expensive.

asr-003339
02:58:14.800 --> 02:58:20.360
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: However, the Secretary already came up with a program wherein LGUs,

asr-003340
02:58:21.220 --> 02:58:25.200
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: farmer associations, our meal district development councils,

asr-003341
02:58:25.380 --> 02:58:26.080
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: which are private,

asr-003342
02:58:26.400 --> 02:58:33.740
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: and other organizations are encouraged to make their own biocontrol laboratories.

asr-003343
02:58:34.680 --> 02:58:39.860
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: SRA and the DA will provide the fungi, the mother fungi,

asr-003344
02:58:40.220 --> 02:58:45.620
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: that we have tested, and it's proven to help control RSSI.

asr-003345
02:58:45.800 --> 02:58:47.580
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: It's a lot slower than pesticide,

asr-003346
02:58:47.580 --> 02:58:50.860
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: but we need to bring it down to the grassroots level,

asr-003347
02:58:51.600 --> 02:58:52.760
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Senator and Mr. Chair,

asr-003348
02:58:53.120 --> 02:58:56.380
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: to make it accessible.

asr-003349
02:58:56.400 --> 02:59:03.160
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So, I think with your help, with the Chairman's help,

asr-003350
02:59:03.500 --> 02:59:04.920
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: we do need budget for it.

asr-003351
02:59:06.260 --> 02:59:13.500
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: There were already LGUs in Negros who signified that they are willing to go

asr-003352
02:59:13.500 --> 02:59:16.280
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: and collaborate with the DA and organize these laboratories.

asr-003353
02:59:16.600 --> 02:59:18.120
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: This is for the future use.

asr-003354
02:59:18.540 --> 02:59:20.940
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: We believe RSSI will be here to stay.

asr-003355
02:59:21.060 --> 02:59:22.900
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: It's very hard to totally eradicate.

asr-003356
02:59:22.900 --> 02:59:25.700
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: But we just, according to the countries who

asr-003357
02:59:26.400 --> 02:59:28.560
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: had RSSI or still have RSSI,

asr-003358
02:59:28.900 --> 02:59:32.440
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: we just have to learn and live with it and control it in the biocontrol way.

asr-003359
02:59:32.520 --> 02:59:35.000
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: We cannot continually use chemical pesticides.

asr-003360
02:59:35.740 --> 02:59:36.960
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: It is not sustainable.

asr-003361
02:59:37.240 --> 02:59:39.400
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: So, hopefully, hopefully,

asr-003362
02:59:39.620 --> 02:59:44.840
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: the committee can give us an additional budget specifically for our SSI.

asr-003363
02:59:45.340 --> 02:59:47.520
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: And on the other hand,

asr-003364
02:59:47.580 --> 02:59:50.120
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: El Nino mitigation as well, Mr. Secretary.

asr-003365
02:59:50.400 --> 02:59:50.920
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Mr. Chair?

asr-003366
02:59:51.020 --> 02:59:51.560
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Mr. Chair.

asr-003367
02:59:53.140 --> 02:59:53.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sorry.

asr-003368
02:59:54.160 --> 02:59:56.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Just on that, just I'd like to support,

asr-003369
02:59:56.400 --> 02:59:57.840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Senator Subiri on that.

asr-003370
02:59:58.220 --> 02:59:59.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And Mr. Chairman, a bit of...

asr-003371
02:59:59.880 --> 03:00:02.180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: institutional memory. If you will

asr-003372
03:00:02.180 --> 03:00:04.160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: recall, the law that

asr-003373
03:00:04.160 --> 03:00:06.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: created the sugar

asr-003374
03:00:06.120 --> 03:00:10.220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the SIDA law actually

asr-003375
03:00:10.220 --> 03:00:12.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: originally appropriated a

asr-003376
03:00:12.240 --> 03:00:13.940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: total amount of 2 billion

asr-003377
03:00:13.940 --> 03:00:16.300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and that 2 billion was

asr-003378
03:00:16.300 --> 03:00:18.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: reduced to 500 million

asr-003379
03:00:18.000 --> 03:00:20.480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: because of its incapacity to disperse

asr-003380
03:00:20.480 --> 03:00:21.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and spend except

asr-003381
03:00:21.980 --> 03:00:24.060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on farm-to-market roads

asr-003382
03:00:24.060 --> 03:00:25.680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and as a result,

asr-003383
03:00:26.160 --> 03:00:28.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: they've had this very small budget

asr-003384
03:00:28.000 --> 03:00:30.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: since then, but the original intent

asr-003385
03:00:30.100 --> 03:00:32.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: which was long, long ago, 2 billion

asr-003386
03:00:32.320 --> 03:00:33.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na yan, na-reduce yan.

asr-003387
03:00:34.120 --> 03:00:35.960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya I think there is really room

asr-003388
03:00:35.960 --> 03:00:38.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: given El Nino as well as RSSI

asr-003389
03:00:38.600 --> 03:00:40.160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to increase it

asr-003390
03:00:40.160 --> 03:00:42.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: as our Senator Subiri

asr-003391
03:00:42.100 --> 03:00:42.520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: said.

asr-003392
03:00:43.420 --> 03:00:45.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And just to add, you have not

asr-003393
03:00:45.960 --> 03:00:47.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: unlike the other agencies,

asr-003394
03:00:48.280 --> 03:00:50.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you have to submit your

asr-003395
03:00:50.020 --> 03:00:51.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: request for additional funding. You have not

asr-003396
03:00:51.880 --> 03:00:52.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: submitted it.

asr-003397
03:00:53.660 --> 03:00:55.540
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-003398
03:00:55.680 --> 03:00:56.580
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: We'll do it.

asr-003399
03:00:56.860 --> 03:00:57.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We intend

asr-003400
03:00:57.980 --> 03:00:59.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to finalize our

asr-003401
03:00:59.320 --> 03:01:01.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: subcommittee report by Friday, so

asr-003402
03:01:01.980 --> 03:01:03.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you have to submit it before then.

asr-003403
03:01:03.980 --> 03:01:05.740
SRA Administrator Pablo Luis S. Azcona: Okay, Mr. Chair. Thank you very much.

asr-003404
03:01:05.940 --> 03:01:08.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: On a final note, Mr. Chair, because I have a meeting

asr-003405
03:01:08.100 --> 03:01:10.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: with the JAICA head, I think they're worried

asr-003406
03:01:10.120 --> 03:01:12.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: about their, not at 1 o'clock,

asr-003407
03:01:12.320 --> 03:01:14.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: they were worried about the

asr-003408
03:01:14.080 --> 03:01:15.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: cut on their

asr-003409
03:01:15.100 --> 03:01:16.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: foreign-assisted

asr-003410
03:01:16.920 --> 03:01:20.420
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: counterpart from the Philippines.

asr-003411
03:01:22.080 --> 03:01:22.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So,

asr-003412
03:01:22.360 --> 03:01:24.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: before I go, I just want to

asr-003413
03:01:24.200 --> 03:01:26.320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: say good luck to you,

asr-003414
03:01:26.380 --> 03:01:27.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sir. I know

asr-003415
03:01:27.980 --> 03:01:30.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sec Kiko for a long, long

asr-003416
03:01:30.280 --> 03:01:31.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: time. He comes from a great school,

asr-003417
03:01:32.140 --> 03:01:34.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Savior. My kids are also in Savior. I'm a

asr-003418
03:01:34.140 --> 03:01:36.500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Savior dad. Magaling yan.

asr-003419
03:01:36.880 --> 03:01:38.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's the other

asr-003420
03:01:38.160 --> 03:01:39.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: good school along Ortega.

asr-003421
03:01:40.280 --> 03:01:40.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Yes, sir.

asr-003422
03:01:41.880 --> 03:01:43.800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Lasal pala ito. O nga, o nga.

asr-003423
03:01:44.340 --> 03:01:46.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, Lasal Green Hills pala ito.

asr-003424
03:01:47.960 --> 03:01:48.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So,

asr-003425
03:01:48.940 --> 03:01:50.040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yung akin lang, Sec,

asr-003426
03:01:50.200 --> 03:01:52.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: gamitin mo ng gilas mo. Matapang yan.

asr-003427
03:01:52.380 --> 03:01:53.680
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Kasama ko sa bakbakan yan.

asr-003428
03:01:53.900 --> 03:01:55.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Commercial artist yan si Sec Kiko

asr-003429
03:01:55.960 --> 03:01:56.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa labanan.

asr-003430
03:01:57.980 --> 03:01:59.300
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Hindi nagbaback out yan.

asr-003431
03:01:59.820 --> 03:02:02.320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, Sec, when it comes to pricing on the

asr-003432
03:02:02.320 --> 03:02:04.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: para naman matuwa

asr-003433
03:02:04.260 --> 03:02:05.040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa atin yung mga

asr-003434
03:02:05.040 --> 03:02:08.080
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: hog farmers and poultry farmers,

asr-003435
03:02:08.220 --> 03:02:09.920
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sec, use your gilas.

asr-003436
03:02:10.060 --> 03:02:12.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Use your tapang,

asr-003437
03:02:12.160 --> 03:02:14.060
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sec. Yan, nandyan si

asr-003438
03:02:14.060 --> 03:02:16.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Usec Itos. Gagamitin ko ulit. Matapang

asr-003439
03:02:16.280 --> 03:02:18.040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yan. Padala mo dun sa mga merkado

asr-003440
03:02:18.040 --> 03:02:20.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: for predatory pricing. Siya padala mo.

asr-003441
03:02:20.240 --> 03:02:21.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Magaling sa shotgun yan.

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03:02:21.880 --> 03:02:23.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At hindi natatakot yan.

asr-003443
03:02:23.580 --> 03:02:24.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Tagalas sa Green Hills yan.

asr-003444
03:02:25.200 --> 03:02:26.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Tagalas sa Green Hills.

asr-003445
03:02:27.180 --> 03:02:27.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, Sec,

asr-003446
03:02:27.980 --> 03:02:29.100
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: yun lang. I just want

asr-003447
03:02:29.100 --> 03:02:31.860
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: you to make that

asr-003448
03:02:31.860 --> 03:02:33.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: impact on the ground. I know you're

asr-003449
03:02:33.740 --> 03:02:35.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: tough. I know you can do it.

asr-003450
03:02:35.700 --> 03:02:37.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Don't be afraid to show your

asr-003451
03:02:37.200 --> 03:02:39.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: emotion on the ground.

asr-003452
03:02:40.040 --> 03:02:41.500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Lalo na sa TV. Matutuwa yung

asr-003453
03:02:41.500 --> 03:02:43.560
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: taong bahayin dyan. Because

asr-003454
03:02:43.560 --> 03:02:44.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: there's farmers in the farm.

asr-003455
03:02:45.380 --> 03:02:47.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: The farmers, lalo na yung 80%,

asr-003456
03:02:47.200 --> 03:02:49.980
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: they're suffering now. Talagang hirap na hirap sila.

asr-003457
03:02:50.320 --> 03:02:50.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, they need

asr-003458
03:02:50.900 --> 03:02:52.720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the actionable

asr-003459
03:02:52.720 --> 03:02:55.880
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: assistance from the

asr-003460
03:02:55.880 --> 03:02:57.320
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: DA. Makita talaga nila.

asr-003461
03:02:57.980 --> 03:02:59.480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I think, yun lamang eh. Kasi may

asr-003462
03:02:59.480 --> 03:03:01.760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: perception is the key to everything.

asr-003463
03:03:01.920 --> 03:03:03.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Diba? Kanya ng politics perception yan eh.

asr-003464
03:03:04.300 --> 03:03:05.720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Gusto lang nila makita na

asr-003465
03:03:05.720 --> 03:03:08.120
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: gumagalaw kayo,

asr-003466
03:03:08.620 --> 03:03:09.760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: nagagalit kayo,

asr-003467
03:03:09.920 --> 03:03:12.240
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: at on the ground, may effect. Kasi natatakot po

asr-003468
03:03:12.240 --> 03:03:14.280
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: itong mga predatory, predators

asr-003469
03:03:14.280 --> 03:03:16.180
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: sa pricing nito mga

asr-003470
03:03:16.180 --> 03:03:17.760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: mga produkto na ito.

asr-003471
03:03:18.260 --> 03:03:20.200
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: For power to you, Sec, we know

asr-003472
03:03:20.200 --> 03:03:21.940
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: it's a difficult job that you face.

asr-003473
03:03:22.300 --> 03:03:23.500
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I've told this to Senator,

asr-003474
03:03:23.500 --> 03:03:25.620
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: my chairman, Senator Kiko,

asr-003475
03:03:25.840 --> 03:03:27.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: that being a DA secretary is one of the

asr-003476
03:03:27.740 --> 03:03:29.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: most difficult jobs. Everybody

asr-003477
03:03:29.580 --> 03:03:31.760
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: who sat on your position, whether

asr-003478
03:03:31.760 --> 03:03:34.160
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: they are professional agriculturists,

asr-003479
03:03:34.300 --> 03:03:35.580
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: whether they were businessmen,

asr-003480
03:03:35.740 --> 03:03:37.700
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: whether they were diplomats, whoever they

asr-003481
03:03:37.700 --> 03:03:39.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: were, talagang nahirapan talaga sila.

asr-003482
03:03:39.700 --> 03:03:41.600
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Because it's a balancing act. But

asr-003483
03:03:41.600 --> 03:03:43.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: at the end of the day, it's the

asr-003484
03:03:43.740 --> 03:03:46.040
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: prices of consumer goods

asr-003485
03:03:46.040 --> 03:03:47.800
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and at the same time, benefits

asr-003486
03:03:47.800 --> 03:03:50.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: of the farmers that are important

asr-003487
03:03:50.000 --> 03:03:51.540
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: here. So, Sec,

asr-003488
03:03:51.540 --> 03:03:52.900
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: more power to you.

asr-003489
03:03:53.300 --> 03:03:54.480
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Huwag ka matakot.

asr-003490
03:03:55.820 --> 03:03:57.720
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Ilabas mo yung galit mo.

asr-003491
03:03:57.740 --> 03:03:58.440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sa mga

asr-003492
03:03:58.440 --> 03:04:01.140
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: itong mga

asr-003493
03:04:01.140 --> 03:04:04.780
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: predator pricing,

asr-003494
03:04:05.020 --> 03:04:05.960
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pati yung mga

asr-003495
03:04:05.960 --> 03:04:07.260
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: smugglers,

asr-003496
03:04:07.800 --> 03:04:09.520
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: tirahin mo. Huwag ka matakot.

asr-003497
03:04:11.120 --> 03:04:12.400
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Tama-tama, pumayat ka naman.

asr-003498
03:04:12.500 --> 03:04:13.740
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: You look better in TV now,

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03:04:14.100 --> 03:04:14.440
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Secretary.

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03:04:16.000 --> 03:04:17.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Salamat po, Chairman. Thank you.

asr-003501
03:04:17.480 --> 03:04:20.000
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you to the DA family. We're here to support.

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03:04:20.300 --> 03:04:21.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, salamat po

asr-003503
03:04:21.580 --> 03:04:23.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kay Senator Zubiri at lalabas na

asr-003504
03:04:23.820 --> 03:04:25.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung tapang

asr-003505
03:04:25.740 --> 03:04:27.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: natin dahil nalaalam ko ngang

asr-003506
03:04:27.740 --> 03:04:28.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa likod mo ako. Thank you.

asr-003507
03:04:29.820 --> 03:04:31.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, well, I will

asr-003508
03:04:31.600 --> 03:04:33.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: likewise share the

asr-003509
03:04:33.760 --> 03:04:35.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sentiment of Senator Zubiri

asr-003510
03:04:35.980 --> 03:04:37.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that if you are going to

asr-003511
03:04:37.900 --> 03:04:39.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: go all out against these

asr-003512
03:04:39.360 --> 03:04:41.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: predators, you have our

asr-003513
03:04:41.440 --> 03:04:44.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 100, 150

asr-003514
03:04:44.020 --> 03:04:44.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: percent support.

asr-003515
03:04:45.680 --> 03:04:47.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Alam naman ni Sec, kiko yan.

asr-003516
03:04:48.120 --> 03:04:49.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, just a few, for my

asr-003517
03:04:49.960 --> 03:04:51.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: first round, first,

asr-003518
03:04:52.020 --> 03:04:53.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mr. Secretary,

asr-003519
03:04:54.480 --> 03:04:57.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: could you comment on our,

asr-003520
03:04:57.740 --> 03:04:59.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: our suggestion that we have

asr-003521
03:04:59.560 --> 03:05:01.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a declaration of a state of calamity

asr-003522
03:05:01.880 --> 03:05:04.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or an imminent disaster

asr-003523
03:05:04.120 --> 03:05:05.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that we can address

asr-003524
03:05:05.760 --> 03:05:06.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: this El Nino

asr-003525
03:05:06.580 --> 03:05:09.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: situation

asr-003526
03:05:09.580 --> 03:05:10.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that we're already

asr-003527
03:05:10.420 --> 03:05:12.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at the moment.

asr-003528
03:05:13.820 --> 03:05:15.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Talagang malaki na ang

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03:05:15.500 --> 03:05:16.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: daño sa limang

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03:05:16.460 --> 03:05:18.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: regions.

asr-003531
03:05:19.260 --> 03:05:21.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Please let us know your thoughts because

asr-003532
03:05:21.500 --> 03:05:23.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we'd like

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03:05:23.860 --> 03:05:25.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to get you all the necessary

asr-003534
03:05:25.900 --> 03:05:27.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: support needed.

asr-003535
03:05:27.740 --> 03:05:29.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: To be able to combat El Nino

asr-003536
03:05:29.960 --> 03:05:31.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and stay ahead of the

asr-003537
03:05:31.420 --> 03:05:34.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: game, for lack of a better

asr-003538
03:05:34.060 --> 03:05:35.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: term, so that

asr-003539
03:05:35.420 --> 03:05:37.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we can be proactive.

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03:05:37.800 --> 03:05:38.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I say that because

asr-003541
03:05:38.920 --> 03:05:41.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: again,

asr-003542
03:05:41.540 --> 03:05:43.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we need the resources,

asr-003543
03:05:44.220 --> 03:05:45.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you need the

asr-003544
03:05:45.340 --> 03:05:47.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: support, and you need

asr-003545
03:05:47.660 --> 03:05:48.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the

asr-003546
03:05:48.760 --> 03:05:51.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: laws and

asr-003547
03:05:51.380 --> 03:05:53.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: executive orders to be able

asr-003548
03:05:53.940 --> 03:05:55.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to do what you must.

asr-003549
03:05:56.260 --> 03:05:57.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, sir. Just on the

asr-003550
03:05:57.660 --> 03:05:58.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: El Nino muna.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

asr-003551
03:06:00.100 --> 03:06:01.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Definitely, well, hindi ko naisip

asr-003552
03:06:01.840 --> 03:06:03.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung binanggit nyo, but

asr-003553
03:06:03.580 --> 03:06:05.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that is a very good idea

asr-003554
03:06:05.880 --> 03:06:07.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in my opinion,

asr-003555
03:06:07.720 --> 03:06:09.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and I do agree that

asr-003556
03:06:09.480 --> 03:06:11.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mas maganda na mag-declare tayo

asr-003557
03:06:11.660 --> 03:06:13.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dahil from all

asr-003558
03:06:13.860 --> 03:06:15.680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: indications, it's super El Nino.

asr-003559
03:06:16.080 --> 03:06:17.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pari dalubhasa, pag-asa,

asr-003560
03:06:18.880 --> 03:06:19.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: you know,

asr-003561
03:06:19.700 --> 03:06:21.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: everybody in the world is saying it, so I think

asr-003562
03:06:21.740 --> 03:06:23.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we better act fast, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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03:06:23.560 --> 03:06:25.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, my office can help

asr-003564
03:06:25.360 --> 03:06:27.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in that regard. Let's sit

asr-003565
03:06:27.660 --> 03:06:28.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: down with your Chief of Staff.

asr-003566
03:06:29.800 --> 03:06:31.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The reason why I raised that was because

asr-003567
03:06:31.600 --> 03:06:33.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I faced, as Food Security Secretary

asr-003568
03:06:33.860 --> 03:06:35.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in 2014-2015,

asr-003569
03:06:35.740 --> 03:06:37.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I faced a calamity.

asr-003570
03:06:38.460 --> 03:06:39.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The

asr-003571
03:06:39.020 --> 03:06:41.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kokolisap infestation in

asr-003572
03:06:41.480 --> 03:06:43.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Region 4A in Calbar

asr-003573
03:06:43.600 --> 03:06:45.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Zone, about 2 million trees.

asr-003574
03:06:46.140 --> 03:06:47.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The rate within which it was spreading

asr-003575
03:06:47.700 --> 03:06:49.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: was such that it would have hit

asr-003576
03:06:49.440 --> 03:06:51.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Region 5

asr-003577
03:06:51.180 --> 03:06:53.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: had we not made the necessary

asr-003578
03:06:53.340 --> 03:06:55.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: interventions.

asr-003579
03:06:55.760 --> 03:06:57.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And that state of

asr-003580
03:06:57.140 --> 03:06:57.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: state of

asr-003581
03:06:57.660 --> 03:06:59.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: emergency

asr-003582
03:06:59.500 --> 03:07:01.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: calamity was declared by

asr-003583
03:07:01.580 --> 03:07:03.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then President Aquino. We got about

asr-003584
03:07:03.460 --> 03:07:05.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: half a million pesos worth of

asr-003585
03:07:05.140 --> 03:07:07.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: additional support to be able

asr-003586
03:07:07.540 --> 03:07:09.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to address that calamity.

asr-003587
03:07:09.660 --> 03:07:11.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We established a war room.

asr-003588
03:07:12.540 --> 03:07:13.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I know you now have a

asr-003589
03:07:13.640 --> 03:07:15.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: war room in the department

asr-003590
03:07:15.460 --> 03:07:17.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at the top floor

asr-003591
03:07:17.740 --> 03:07:19.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the Philippine Coconut Authority.

asr-003592
03:07:20.500 --> 03:07:21.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sat down with the

asr-003593
03:07:21.560 --> 03:07:23.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: LGU, sat down with

asr-003594
03:07:23.140 --> 03:07:25.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: those affected, and within six

asr-003595
03:07:25.500 --> 03:07:27.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: months, from 57 hot spots, we

asr-003596
03:07:27.500 --> 03:07:28.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: were able to bring it down to

asr-003597
03:07:28.660 --> 03:07:31.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: one in

asr-003598
03:07:31.060 --> 03:07:31.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Basilan.

asr-003599
03:07:32.620 --> 03:07:35.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang biro ko nga kay President Aquino noon,

asr-003600
03:07:35.940 --> 03:07:37.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pag dating ko doon sa

asr-003601
03:07:37.460 --> 03:07:39.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Batangas, lahat ng mga

asr-003602
03:07:39.720 --> 03:07:41.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: puno ng nyog naninilaw.

asr-003603
03:07:42.640 --> 03:07:43.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya sabi ko, Mr. President,

asr-003604
03:07:44.020 --> 03:07:45.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if we don't act fast,

asr-003605
03:07:45.780 --> 03:07:47.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mauubos ang ating mga nyog.

asr-003606
03:07:47.800 --> 03:07:49.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero, the good news,

asr-003607
03:07:49.580 --> 03:07:50.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: marami na pong dilawan

asr-003608
03:07:50.700 --> 03:07:51.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: doon sa

asr-003609
03:07:51.880 --> 03:07:52.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

asr-003610
03:07:52.300 --> 03:07:56.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: naninilaw kasi.

asr-003611
03:07:57.500 --> 03:08:00.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But we addressed it

asr-003612
03:08:00.060 --> 03:08:01.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in a six-month period.

asr-003613
03:08:02.320 --> 03:08:03.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, that's why

asr-003614
03:08:03.780 --> 03:08:05.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: let's work together

asr-003615
03:08:05.900 --> 03:08:07.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and let's convince the President to declare

asr-003616
03:08:07.900 --> 03:08:09.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that state of natural

asr-003617
03:08:09.060 --> 03:08:10.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

asr-003618
03:08:10.940 --> 03:08:13.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: state

asr-003619
03:08:13.100 --> 03:08:16.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: natural calamity.

asr-003620
03:08:16.620 --> 03:08:17.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Disaster.

asr-003621
03:08:18.680 --> 03:08:18.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sige.

asr-003622
03:08:19.960 --> 03:08:20.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now,

asr-003623
03:08:20.600 --> 03:08:23.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if that is

asr-003624
03:08:23.000 --> 03:08:23.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: declared

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: immediately,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what, at least,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: right now, ano na ang plano ninyo

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: thus far para ma-address itong

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: El Niño?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just broad strokes lang para maintindihan natin

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03:08:37.120 --> 03:08:38.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ano ang kakailangan ng ponduhan?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, well,

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03:08:40.780 --> 03:08:43.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we have created the El Niño task force

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03:08:43.260 --> 03:08:44.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: a few months ago, no?

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03:08:44.800 --> 03:08:45.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Coming from yung

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03:08:45.980 --> 03:08:49.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: fewer prices task force, nag-migrate lang.

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03:08:49.240 --> 03:08:50.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We meet every week, actually.

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03:08:51.120 --> 03:08:52.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Every Monday morning.

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03:08:52.980 --> 03:08:55.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, we've developed

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nga yung aming, we've requested

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03:08:56.840 --> 03:08:57.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: funding.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For all of the

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03:08:59.720 --> 03:09:00.680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: things we need.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And, mabibigay naman sa amin

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03:09:03.560 --> 03:09:04.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng ating

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03:09:04.180 --> 03:09:06.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: malakanyang, ang aming requirement.

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03:09:09.540 --> 03:09:11.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Basically, it involves

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: water management,

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03:09:13.060 --> 03:09:15.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa crops, sa rice, corn, high-value crops,

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03:09:15.640 --> 03:09:16.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sugarcane, coconut,

asr-003652
03:09:16.820 --> 03:09:19.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: interventions. Meron din livestock

asr-003653
03:09:19.280 --> 03:09:21.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and poultry, pati fisheries.

asr-003654
03:09:21.820 --> 03:09:23.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, we have to address yung

asr-003655
03:09:23.220 --> 03:09:25.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: income losses also of affected farmers

asr-003656
03:09:25.300 --> 03:09:27.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and fisher folks to be minimized.

asr-003657
03:09:27.500 --> 03:09:29.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And, yung access of consumers

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03:09:29.660 --> 03:09:31.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to affordable food and commodities

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03:09:31.820 --> 03:09:33.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to be expanded, no?

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03:09:34.120 --> 03:09:36.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, as mentioned earlier,

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03:09:36.740 --> 03:09:38.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we will deploy more

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03:09:38.240 --> 03:09:39.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: water pumps,

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03:09:39.720 --> 03:09:41.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: solar-powered man.

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03:09:41.840 --> 03:09:43.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We've been deploying now

asr-003665
03:09:43.440 --> 03:09:45.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in turning over solar-powered

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03:09:45.720 --> 03:09:47.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: cold storages, kaya para bago

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03:09:47.560 --> 03:09:49.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: uminit at kung kaya na i-harvest

asr-003668
03:09:49.420 --> 03:09:51.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or earlier harvest, may itago

asr-003669
03:09:51.540 --> 03:09:53.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and let it mature in those

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03:09:53.420 --> 03:09:54.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: facilities.

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03:09:54.060 --> 03:09:54.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So,

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03:09:54.180 --> 03:09:57.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: solar-powered irrigation,

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03:09:57.500 --> 03:09:59.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we're turning over tuloy-tuloy.

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03:10:00.560 --> 03:10:01.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nag-procure na kami ng

asr-003675
03:10:01.580 --> 03:10:03.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: additional bio-fertilizers, no?

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03:10:04.100 --> 03:10:05.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: To the tune of 2.2

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03:10:05.740 --> 03:10:07.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: billion, and it will be distributed this

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03:10:07.540 --> 03:10:08.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: October and November,

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03:10:09.480 --> 03:10:10.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: among others.

asr-003680
03:10:12.000 --> 03:10:13.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At, yun, marami-marami pa.

asr-003681
03:10:14.120 --> 03:10:15.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Naka-prepare na yung budget

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03:10:15.520 --> 03:10:16.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for, may additional

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03:10:16.980 --> 03:10:19.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: presidential assistance to farmers and fisher

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03:10:19.460 --> 03:10:21.640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: folks tayo. May fuel assistance tayo

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03:10:21.640 --> 03:10:23.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: i-deploy soon.

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03:10:23.800 --> 03:10:25.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At, meron din tayong agreement

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03:10:25.800 --> 03:10:26.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: with the toll,

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03:10:27.500 --> 03:10:31.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na magbigay ng

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03:10:31.940 --> 03:10:33.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: reduction in

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03:10:33.340 --> 03:10:35.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: a rebate system

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03:10:35.600 --> 03:10:38.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa mga agri-truck

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03:10:38.340 --> 03:10:40.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: users, at may mga cross-cutting

asr-003693
03:10:40.700 --> 03:10:42.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: interventions din tayo, no?

asr-003694
03:10:42.180 --> 03:10:43.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Across all

asr-003695
03:10:43.460 --> 03:10:45.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: commodities,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lalo na yung basic commodities.

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03:10:48.880 --> 03:10:49.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So,

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03:10:50.020 --> 03:10:52.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair. Go ahead, go ahead, please.

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03:10:53.240 --> 03:10:54.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: More or less,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yun yun, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, is there a,

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03:10:57.500 --> 03:10:58.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a conscious

asr-003703
03:10:58.540 --> 03:11:01.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: calibrated

asr-003704
03:11:01.560 --> 03:11:02.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: intentional

asr-003705
03:11:02.620 --> 03:11:05.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: coordination, for example,

asr-003706
03:11:06.340 --> 03:11:07.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: similar to what they're

asr-003707
03:11:07.960 --> 03:11:09.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: doing with the SRA?

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03:11:09.900 --> 03:11:11.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because I remember when we had the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uplift hearing,

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03:11:13.640 --> 03:11:15.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi natin,

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03:11:16.180 --> 03:11:17.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: AICS is precisely

asr-003712
03:11:17.360 --> 03:11:19.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: necessary

asr-003713
03:11:19.380 --> 03:11:21.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: when there is a calamity,

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03:11:22.000 --> 03:11:24.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: when there is a

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: crisis, di ba? So,

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03:11:25.800 --> 03:11:27.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the intervention, meaning,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: between, or the coordination

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03:11:29.860 --> 03:11:31.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: between DA

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03:11:31.720 --> 03:11:33.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and DSWD,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that the AICS is

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: directed, you know?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sabi ko nga, if you're gonna direct

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03:11:39.680 --> 03:11:41.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the AICS, you might as well direct it

asr-003724
03:11:41.540 --> 03:11:42.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to those who produce our food,

asr-003725
03:11:43.360 --> 03:11:45.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that they can

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03:11:45.640 --> 03:11:47.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: continue producing our food,

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03:11:47.980 --> 03:11:49.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: which therefore

asr-003728
03:11:49.420 --> 03:11:51.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: addresses the challenges of,

asr-003729
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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know, food prices

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: going up. So, may ganun bang

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ko,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: which is clear-cut

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03:11:59.520 --> 03:12:01.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: directive or policy,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because that should, you know,

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03:12:03.520 --> 03:12:05.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: one expenditure, but you're

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: actually, two outcomes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, definitely,

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03:12:11.720 --> 03:12:13.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may ganun. Actually, it's the office of the

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03:12:13.800 --> 03:12:15.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Executive Secretary mismo nagpapatawag

asr-003741
03:12:15.880 --> 03:12:17.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa amin almost every other week,

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03:12:18.500 --> 03:12:19.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: if not more sometimes,

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03:12:20.500 --> 03:12:21.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: with all the

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03:12:21.700 --> 03:12:23.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: major departments present,

asr-003745
03:12:23.940 --> 03:12:26.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: including OCD, but the Air Force

asr-003746
03:12:26.120 --> 03:12:26.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: actually, kasi,

asr-003747
03:12:27.500 --> 03:12:29.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it involves also sa El Nino yung cloud seeding,

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03:12:30.020 --> 03:12:32.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: no? Then, yun nga,

asr-003749
03:12:32.380 --> 03:12:34.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: meron pang kami mga shallow well tubes

asr-003750
03:12:34.260 --> 03:12:35.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nga binabanggit,

asr-003751
03:12:36.180 --> 03:12:37.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: then yung tupad ng DOLE,

asr-003752
03:12:38.040 --> 03:12:39.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: meron din in-allocate sa amin,

asr-003753
03:12:39.680 --> 03:12:41.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: meron din this DSWD

asr-003754
03:12:41.860 --> 03:12:44.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: AICS available, and of course,

asr-003755
03:12:44.340 --> 03:12:46.160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung OCD fund,

asr-003756
03:12:47.220 --> 03:12:47.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hopefully,

asr-003757
03:12:47.840 --> 03:12:50.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung QRF nila

asr-003758
03:12:50.080 --> 03:12:52.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang magagamit din namin for all of this,

asr-003759
03:12:52.500 --> 03:12:54.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as well as the DAQRF fund.

asr-003760
03:12:54.840 --> 03:12:55.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, yun yung mga

asr-003761
03:12:55.700 --> 03:12:57.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: strategic na ginagamit,

asr-003762
03:12:57.500 --> 03:12:59.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nagawa namin, no? But, besides that,

asr-003763
03:12:59.700 --> 03:13:01.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: meron pa kami provisions of seeds,

asr-003764
03:13:01.440 --> 03:13:03.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: planting materials, fertilizers,

asr-003765
03:13:03.760 --> 03:13:06.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and animal dispersals,

asr-003766
03:13:06.340 --> 03:13:08.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and provision of drugs

asr-003767
03:13:08.140 --> 03:13:09.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and biologics.

asr-003768
03:13:10.120 --> 03:13:11.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, fisheries naman, may fingerlings,

asr-003769
03:13:11.920 --> 03:13:13.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: seaweed propagules, and fish cages

asr-003770
03:13:13.520 --> 03:13:14.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: din na dinideploy.

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03:13:16.240 --> 03:13:17.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Crop insurance is also

asr-003772
03:13:17.740 --> 03:13:19.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: being, binayos namin talaga yung

asr-003773
03:13:19.940 --> 03:13:21.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na magkapag-register lahat

asr-003774
03:13:21.400 --> 03:13:23.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa crop insurance, lalo na yung mga

asr-003775
03:13:23.380 --> 03:13:25.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa tatamaan na areas, kasi nga,

asr-003776
03:13:25.960 --> 03:13:27.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that's one way for the crop insurance.

asr-003777
03:13:27.500 --> 03:13:29.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for them to recover. Plus, yung mga additional

asr-003778
03:13:29.140 --> 03:13:31.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: financial assistance

asr-003779
03:13:31.080 --> 03:13:33.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and agri-loans, no? Like,

asr-003780
03:13:33.120 --> 03:13:34.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: agri-recover, mga ganon.

asr-003781
03:13:35.260 --> 03:13:36.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, yun namin sa share.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you.

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03:13:40.020 --> 03:13:40.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sige, we'll,

asr-003784
03:13:41.780 --> 03:13:42.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: before I turn over

asr-003785
03:13:42.900 --> 03:13:45.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the floor and provide

asr-003786
03:13:45.300 --> 03:13:45.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: some

asr-003787
03:13:45.620 --> 03:13:48.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: opportunity for our

asr-003788
03:13:48.720 --> 03:13:51.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: partner,

asr-003789
03:13:53.120 --> 03:13:53.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: NGO

asr-003790
03:13:53.540 --> 03:13:55.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Civil Society partner

asr-003791
03:13:55.320 --> 03:13:56.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: who will, in the budget,

asr-003792
03:13:57.500 --> 03:13:59.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: process, just

asr-003793
03:13:59.420 --> 03:14:01.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on the issue,

asr-003794
03:14:01.780 --> 03:14:03.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: balikan ko na lang very quickly yung

asr-003795
03:14:03.320 --> 03:14:04.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa pork, no?

asr-003796
03:14:06.320 --> 03:14:07.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary, apart from

asr-003797
03:14:07.780 --> 03:14:08.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: itong

asr-003798
03:14:08.560 --> 03:14:11.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the need to revisit

asr-003799
03:14:11.860 --> 03:14:13.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: itong taripa, yung

asr-003800
03:14:13.600 --> 03:14:16.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pagbalik

asr-003801
03:14:16.180 --> 03:14:17.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa dati ng taripa, itong

asr-003802
03:14:17.920 --> 03:14:19.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: minimum access volume,

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03:14:20.080 --> 03:14:21.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tapos yung

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03:14:21.080 --> 03:14:23.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: importation ng karne,

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03:14:23.260 --> 03:14:25.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: are you

asr-003806
03:14:25.280 --> 03:14:27.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: providing assistance

asr-003807
03:14:27.500 --> 03:14:29.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know, actually, subsidies

asr-003808
03:14:29.500 --> 03:14:31.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or support, you know? Kasi ito

asr-003809
03:14:31.660 --> 03:14:32.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ata, isa rin concern, no?

asr-003810
03:14:33.380 --> 03:14:35.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung, since farm bigot prices

asr-003811
03:14:35.720 --> 03:14:37.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: have dropped

asr-003812
03:14:37.060 --> 03:14:38.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa level ng palugi,

asr-003813
03:14:39.800 --> 03:14:41.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is there some way

asr-003814
03:14:41.160 --> 03:14:43.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that the intervention of the DA

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03:14:43.500 --> 03:14:45.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will provide some

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: relief dito? Lalo na,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: my understanding is 70 to

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 80 percent of your

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farms, your

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pig farms, piggeries,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: are small.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, backyard farmers. So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: anong

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Meron bang mga interventions or programs?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: For example, sa usapin ng ASF, yung bakuna ba ay maaari bang ipamahagi?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kailangan ba ng dagdag na suporta at budget dyan para mapabalis ang pag-ano ng ASF vaccine?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung feeds, meron bang paraan para magbigay ng assistance dito sa mga backyard farms

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para magkaroon ng support, feed support from the DA so that 60 to 70 percent of your cost of production is feeds sa livestock, sa baboy?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi ba dapat meron ganong budgetary support para masuportahan in the interim itong industriya ng magbababoy?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, before I go to that to the pork industry again,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: meron lang ako nakalimutan na meron kailangan for next year, hindi namin nailagay sa GAO, maliit ang budget for cloud seeding.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So tingin namin we need additional P271 million for water management on cloud seeding.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It remains unfunded for 2027, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And if we declare that state of calamity, then maybe we can get those funds somewhere.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I mean apart from maybe adding it to the 2020 budget.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I mean apart from maybe adding it to the 2027 budget.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So before we proceed, I invited Ken Abante.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Actually, Ken of the People's Budget Coalition was actively participating with our budget process when Senator Wynn, Senate President Wynn was our chairman.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And we'd like to continue this collaboration so that we can get their inputs in terms of being able to address challenges of,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the budgetary process and the final budget approval.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Ken. You have the floor, Mr. Abante of People's Budget Coalition.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Your observations regarding the DA budget until the approval by the House. Go ahead.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Senator Kiko, SP Wynn, Secretary Kiko and the DA family, magandang hapon po.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Kami po ang People's Budget Coalition, isang grupo ng lampas apat na pong organisasyon na ipinaglalaban ang isang budget,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: tao, makakalikasan at makatarungan.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Una po, lubos po kaming nagpapasalamat sa inyo, Senator Kiko at SP Wynn at Committee on Agriculture,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: sa pag-imbita sa aming civil society group sa budget hearing.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: This is the first time in at least 10 years that civil society has been invited as resource persons in budget hearing.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So thank you, Sen. Kiko, for maintaining the momentum of budget reforms started by SP Wynn Gatchalian and Finance Committee Chair JV Ejercito,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: who met us budget watchdogs for three hours last week.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And just last Monday, Sen. Riza Ontiveros, who also invited us to the DSWD hearing.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: While the House has blocked and even regressed in transparency and genuine participation of civil society groups,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: the Senate and even the executive agencies have proven to be more open to receiving civil society feedback.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ini-emphasize po namin ito dahil ito ay isang critical na step to restoring the broken public trust in the budget process brought by the flood control scandal.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Citizens like us who are directly affected by reforms have the right and responsibility to engage in every step of the budget process.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Kaya po na-appreciate po namin ito dahil sa komiting ito, na-appreciate po namin yung pagka-specific ng plano ng DA at ating Senado sa El Niño,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: which brings us, nag-uusap po kami dito ni Tim, who represents farmer and fisher folk organizations,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: it brings us a lot of comfort and confidence that government will do something about their experiences.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And we hope...

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: that this engagement becomes the norm in Congress and even include the scientific institutions who specialize in these reviews.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So salamat po sa paikinig sa mga hinain ng Trillion Peso March at Baja sa Luneta Rallies.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Meron po kaming tatlong obserbasyon at rekomendasyon na gusto pong ibahagi tungkol sa Department of Agriculture Budget.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Una po, billion-billion po ang in-insert ng House of Representatives sa Department of Agriculture Infrastructure Budget.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nananawagan po kami sa Senado at sa Ehekutibo

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: na tulungan po kaming i-review ang lampas 7,054 projects worth 190 billion pesos na in-insert ng House of Representatives.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nire-request po namin ang DA at ang Senado sa pag-publish ng mga dokumentong ito for media and civil society to see the documents following these red flags.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang warning po namin sa publiko, if we allow the House budget to pass as is, we might get another flood control scandal but in another age.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ikalawa pong major finding namin sa citizen monitoring, we commend the Department of Agriculture for their Farm-to-Market Road Watch

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: and we could recommend po that we strengthen and explore opportunities with our Bisto Proyecto Network

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: which has already networks in 12 regions to extend the identification and monitoring of farm-to-market and irrigation projects with farmer and fisher folk groups.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: The third major finding is we recommend investing and involving scientists and scientific institutions.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: in the budget review process to even strengthen the additional requirements for El Niño and promoting the stability of agriculture prices.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nire-recommenda po namin sa komite na i-include ang mga scientists, hydrologists, disaster resilience experts from Project NOAA,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: agriculturists and ecologists from UPLB to review the DA as a whole.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Gusto po namin isa-isahin yung tatlong rekomendasyon na ito.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Una po, sa mga house insertions sa farm-to-market roads.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: and irrigation projects.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Naniniwala po kami, at nag-usap po kami ni Sec. Kiko kanina po before the hearing,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: naniniwala po kami na kailangan naman talaga ng farm-to-market roads, irrigation projects at agricultural investments

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: para po sa El Niño, mga bagyo, at para po mapababa ang presyo ng ating mga bilihin.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Pero po, kapag in-insert ng House of Representatives ang 7,000 projects worth 190 billion pesos,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: kasama po sa mga in-insert ng house, ang 15 billion pesos,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: sa farm-to-market and irrigation projects na walang publicly-posted project attachments.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: I-specify po natin.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang house po, nag-insert ng 355 na totally new projects worth nearly 6 billion pesos for farm-to-market roads

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: na totally wala sa National Expenditure Program at Proposal ng DA.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ito po ay yung mga tigpa 5 million, 10 million, 15 million na mga kalsada.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Hindi po tayo sigurado kung konektado ito talaga.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: National Highway Network o konektado ito sa mga resort nila.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: The house inserted 319 totally new irrigation projects worth 9.4 billion pesos.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And the egregious thing about these house insertions is they do not have the same level of public disclosure

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: that was given by the Department of Public Works and Highways.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nag-publish po sila ng mga geotagged photos, program of works, detailed unit price analysis,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: certificate of implementability ng mga local government units,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: feasibility studies at local development council approvals.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Kaya po siguro bahagi po ito kung bakit nag-slow down ang farm-to-market road budget utilization

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: kasi po kailangan po yung lahat ng dokumentong ito ay present before even the budget is approved.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Yung even more details, kailangan pong i-publish hindi lamang ang coordinates pero yung mga supporting documents.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Halimbawa po, kailangan pong i-review ang mga coordinates ng proyekto.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nung tinignan po namin,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: meron po kaming mga angry nerds.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ito po yung 5,500 volunteers, the best software developers in the world

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: who got politically active after the flood control scandal.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We mapped every single project, every single of the 18,000 projects that are now in the House bill.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May mga nakita po kaming 23 million pesos na farm-to-market road na dapat ay nasa Nueva Ecija

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: pero ang coordinates po ay nasa Karagatan na malapit sa Benham Rice.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May isang 30 million pesos na farm-to-market road na dapat ay nasa Nueva Ecija.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May isang 55 million pesos na farm-to-market road na dapat ay nasa Cebu pero nasa Celebesi, malapit sa Indonesia.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May isang 55 million pesos na farm-to-market road na dapat nasa Quezon pero nasa Karagatan, malapit sa Brunei.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Kailangan din po natin i-review ang cost assumptions sa iba-ibang infrastruktura sa farm-to-market at irrigation.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Kanina po nasabi na 15,000 pesos per meter or 15 million pesos per kilometer ang market price ngayon dapat ng mga kalsada.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May mga nakita po kami.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May mga koordinates na published na 19 million pesos per meter dahil 2 meters lang po ang nasa koordinates or 6 million pesos per meter.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Sa tingin po namin may mga mali sa mga koordinates na ito na napasa both in the NEP and the House version.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: At ang nire-request po ng aming angry nerds ay yung mismong raw data, yung mga GeoJSON shape files para ma-verify po ang lahat ng ito.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: In the middle of some of these project cost analysis that we did,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: may mga nakita pa po kaming mga 33,000 pesos per meter at 20,000 pesos per meter.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Gustong sabihin po, if we take the budget as is, may mga likely overpriced projects pa rin po sa DA.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ikalawa naman po, tinignan namin ang irrigation projects.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Meron po ba kaming nakita na mga solar panels at kung ano man ang mga naging assumption sa mga solar pump irrigation projects.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Concerned po kami sa costs ng solar pump irrigation systems with AI capability.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Tama po ba?

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Na bilog-bilog na 50 million, 100 million, o 200 million ang mga budget para rito.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: There is a risk that these projects may be overpriced so these must be reviewed.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Tinignan po namin kung magkano dapat ang 600 to 700 watt solar panel.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Dapat po ito ay under market prices just 7,000 pesos.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: But some bidding and detailed unit price analysis documents are team reviewed.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nakita po na yung solar panel costs na ito, actual bidding documents coming from the NIA,

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: cost around 30,000 to 40,000 pesos.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So we want to ask whether these are still the same cost assumptions being used for the irrigation projects under this budget.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Meron din pong mga AI monitoring section ang mga proyektong ito.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Dapat po ba talaga ay merong tigo 1 million pesos per lot na AI monitoring?

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Hindi po ba dapat mas centralized na ito?

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Again, we are not saying that these are conclusive of corruption because we need more documents to make a determination.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang sinasabi lamang po namin, kailangan po ng determination at kailangan ng dokumento para po magkaroon tayo ng mas maayos na review.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Pinublish po namin ang findings na ito.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We have a listing of all 18,000 house projects in this link, bit.ly or bit.ly slash budget red flags.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Iniimbitahan po namin ang media, civil society, at ang kongreso at akademya to work with us on these inspections.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Kung ang eleksyon po ay may disiplina ng eleksyon.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Sa budget naman po ay dapat may budget monitoring.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So yun po yung first major finding namin sa NKICO and SPWIN.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ikalawa po is an offer to support the great work of Secretary Kiko Chulaurel and the DA family.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We commend the DA for launching the Farm to Markets Roadwatch.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Nakita po namin na sa DA may website sila na inupload ang 3,455 completed projects of 6,428 projects worth 110 billion pesos.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Spanning nearly 2,700 kilometers.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: However po, when we saw the public reports in your e-reports portal, only 24 reports have been submitted by citizen inspectors.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang offer po for support namin, we think we can support the citizen monitoring of these farm to market roads.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And perhaps we can work with the Bisto Proyecto group convened by Cardinal Ambo David and Dondon Parafina.

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People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Our more than 200 volunteers, mga nanays ng 4Ps, Rover Scouts, mga madre at pare,

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03:27:22.660 --> 03:27:30.500
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: at parish workers, have monitored 251 projects worth 14 billion pesos across 12 regions with the DPWH.

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03:27:31.020 --> 03:27:35.660
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: May nahanap po kami na 92 na unsatisfactory na projects.

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03:27:36.100 --> 03:27:37.180
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Siyem na po ang narisolba.

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03:27:37.860 --> 03:27:43.140
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And inaayos po namin ngayon with DPWH yung feedback mechanism with citizen inspectors.

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03:27:43.480 --> 03:27:46.340
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We hope that we can do the same with your office, Secretary.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Third and final.

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03:27:48.000 --> 03:27:52.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before you proceed, just to place on record, let it be on record.

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03:27:52.660 --> 03:28:05.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That when Mr. Abante said, we hope you can help us directing the question or the appeal to the good Secretary,

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03:28:05.540 --> 03:28:08.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Secretary gave a thumbs up.

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03:28:08.820 --> 03:28:12.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's not in the transcript kasi so I had to put it on record.

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03:28:13.240 --> 03:28:15.680
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We are very happy with the thumbs up, Your Honor.

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03:28:17.060 --> 03:28:18.400
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Third and finally po,

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03:28:18.400 --> 03:28:22.300
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: we hope po we can involve the scientists in the review of the budget

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03:28:22.300 --> 03:28:28.000
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: to address El Niño, to double-check many of these coordinates that we think have errors in them,

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03:28:28.000 --> 03:28:30.880
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: and promote the stability of the agriculture prices.

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03:28:30.880 --> 03:28:36.140
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: At sa tingin po namin, it's part of the institutionalization of the Budget Monitoring Group,

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03:28:36.140 --> 03:28:42.440
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Budget Monitoring Network, is to be able to fund these third-party research institutions

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03:28:42.440 --> 03:28:48.240
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: so that they can really attend and do detailed analyses and studies of these projects.

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03:28:48.240 --> 03:28:51.600
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Muli po, nagpapasalamat po kami kasi ito po ay napakahalagang

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03:28:52.140 --> 03:28:56.040
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: oportunidad para po sa aming mga budget watchdogs na mapakinggan.

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03:28:57.120 --> 03:29:02.640
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: At si Tim po ay mayroon din po siyang mga inputs galing po sa mga farmers and fisher folks,

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03:29:03.100 --> 03:29:07.360
People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: fisher folk groups, and may we ask po that Tim be recognized, Mr. Chairman.

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03:29:07.380 --> 03:29:08.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Tim.

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03:29:08.360 --> 03:29:08.760
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Mr. Chairman.

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03:29:09.260 --> 03:29:09.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

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03:29:09.800 --> 03:29:16.660
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Just on the topic ni Ken, kasi nabuksan niya yung farm-to-market roads,

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03:29:16.660 --> 03:29:20.540
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and I just want to share with the Secretary,

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03:29:20.540 --> 03:29:24.920
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: alam ko linilinis na ito ng department, pero mayroon pa rin kaming nakitang mga,

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03:29:25.480 --> 03:29:30.640
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: we call it red flags rin, in line with what Ken mentioned.

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03:29:30.640 --> 03:29:36.900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And Mr. Chairman, thank you rin for inviting the People's Budget Coalition.

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03:29:37.100 --> 03:29:38.840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: We've been working with them since last year.

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03:29:39.960 --> 03:29:46.740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: In fact, malaki po yung kanilang papel kung paano natin inayos yung 2026 budget.

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03:29:47.660 --> 03:29:50.900
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: At dahil sa pagtutulungan natin,

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03:29:52.140 --> 03:29:57.220
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: yung recent Supreme Court ruling, hindi apektado yung 2026 budget.

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03:29:57.420 --> 03:30:00.020
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: It's only on the 2024 and 2025 budget.

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03:30:00.280 --> 03:30:12.620
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And that's also with the close coordination with our civil society organization, kay Sen. Kiko, nung hinimay niya mga farm-to-market roads at irrigation projects.

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03:30:13.280 --> 03:30:21.100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, Secretary, may nakita pa kami yung tawag namin mga red flags, mga 29 projects worth P660 million.

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03:30:21.100 --> 03:30:27.520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I know this is not big compared to the P16 billion total FMR.

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03:30:28.180 --> 03:30:41.860
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Pero dahil yung Kongreso nagpasok ng P6 billion, hindi namin alam kung yung P6 billion na yun ay naayon sa inyong master list or master plan.

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03:30:42.600 --> 03:30:46.500
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, but nakita namin may mga ganitong mga red flag.

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03:30:47.020 --> 03:30:48.340
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Next slide, Elena.

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03:30:48.600 --> 03:30:50.960
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: First yung the same name.

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03:30:51.100 --> 03:30:55.540
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, nakita namin doon sa mga FMR may mga pare-pareho yung pangalan.

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03:30:56.300 --> 03:30:56.940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Next.

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03:30:58.400 --> 03:31:02.800
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: The same name, but different project coordinates.

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03:31:03.040 --> 03:31:07.140
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Pag tinignan natin yung pangalan, pare-pareho, pero hindi man pareho yung coordinates.

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03:31:07.580 --> 03:31:08.780
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And then next.

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03:31:10.340 --> 03:31:12.560
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Different name, but the same coordinates.

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03:31:13.020 --> 03:31:18.600
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ito mas delikado ito dahil iba yung pangalan, pero parehong coordinates.

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03:31:18.600 --> 03:31:20.100
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yun yung sinabi kanina ni Ken.

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03:31:20.260 --> 03:31:20.460
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Baka.

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03:31:21.100 --> 03:31:22.060
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Nasa ibang lugar.

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03:31:22.360 --> 03:31:27.940
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I think, baka may, to give the benefit of the doubt, baka mali lang i-input, no, nung numbers.

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03:31:28.080 --> 03:31:29.080
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kasi puro numbers yan.

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03:31:29.720 --> 03:31:38.360
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But when I received a briefing from the People's Budget Coalition, may mga coordinates na nasa, no, nasa Benham Rise.

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03:31:39.040 --> 03:31:42.360
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yung iba, nasa ibang, hindi nasa Pilipinas, no.

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03:31:43.460 --> 03:31:47.800
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And then next, ito rin, delikado rin ito.

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03:31:47.800 --> 03:31:50.800
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, the same project, the same coordinates, reappearing independently.

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03:31:51.100 --> 03:31:51.740
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Different years.

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03:31:52.480 --> 03:31:52.620
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: No?

asr-004013
03:31:52.780 --> 03:31:56.780
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And we only compared 2026 and 2027.

asr-004014
03:31:57.000 --> 03:32:00.020
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Baka meron pa yan sa 2025, 2024.

asr-004015
03:32:01.020 --> 03:32:03.520
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, fina-flag lang namin in department.

asr-004016
03:32:03.720 --> 03:32:07.720
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: We just want to let the department know may mga ganitong red flags.

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03:32:07.840 --> 03:32:12.880
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: We'll be more than happy to share with the department itong list para malinis ninyo yung inlistahan.

asr-004018
03:32:12.880 --> 03:32:20.720
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And with the recent amendment or insertion ng house na 6 billion, we will also review this.

asr-004019
03:32:21.100 --> 03:32:24.980
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: In cooperation with our civil society organization.

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03:32:25.200 --> 03:32:29.260
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But sa department, gawin nyo na rin yung review.

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03:32:30.200 --> 03:32:34.840
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: At yun naman yung agreement natin, dapat pasok siya doon sa inyong master plan.

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03:32:35.560 --> 03:32:39.180
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Para everything is coordinated with the department.

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03:32:39.600 --> 03:32:40.380
Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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03:32:41.160 --> 03:32:44.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Senate President, Mr. President.

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03:32:44.300 --> 03:32:45.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Tim. You have the floor.

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03:32:47.160 --> 03:32:48.180
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Magandang hapon po.

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03:32:48.380 --> 03:32:50.500
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Timothy Salamon from People's Budget Coalition.

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03:32:50.500 --> 03:32:53.280
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Representing Task Force Mapalad National Peasant Federation.

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03:32:54.040 --> 03:32:59.700
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: One million farmers across the nation that availed of the land rights through the Agrarian Reform Program.

asr-004030
03:33:00.260 --> 03:33:01.020
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Maraming salamat po.

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03:33:01.620 --> 03:33:06.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Actually, pinapunta ko dito ng elders ko, si na Christian Munzod, Atty. Christian Munzod.

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03:33:06.600 --> 03:33:07.740
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Atty. Manding Harilia.

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03:33:08.060 --> 03:33:10.660
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: They wanted me to take an angry tone.

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03:33:11.200 --> 03:33:15.220
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pero upon hearing the discussion earlier, sabi ko kay Atty. Christian.

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03:33:15.820 --> 03:33:18.300
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Atty. Christian, parang binibigay nila yung gusto nila atin makuha.

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03:33:19.400 --> 03:33:20.320
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Natuwa po kami.

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03:33:20.500 --> 03:33:23.060
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Yung doon sa discussion regarding doon sa RSSI.

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03:33:24.260 --> 03:33:28.140
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We do note just some further details on this.

asr-004039
03:33:28.140 --> 03:33:29.900
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Napakalaking bagay po kasi nito.

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03:33:34.660 --> 03:33:43.140
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Ano po eh, nabanggit kanina, napakamahal nung insecticides that are being purchased for RSSI.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: I believe from 10,000 per hectare po iyon.

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03:33:46.040 --> 03:33:50.480
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And we do note na napakababa ng budget na binigay sa SRE.

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03:33:50.500 --> 03:33:51.940
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: To deal with that insect.

asr-004044
03:33:52.940 --> 03:34:00.360
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And natutuwa po kami na the SRE has already mentioned that there are biocontrol mechanisms to deal with this.

asr-004045
03:34:00.440 --> 03:34:06.360
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We already submit this to the DA and we are glad na nakinig po kayo sa recommendations sa civil society.

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03:34:06.860 --> 03:34:12.460
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: In fact, 10,000 per hectare po yung synthetic pesticide.

asr-004047
03:34:12.520 --> 03:34:14.580
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Yung sinasuggest po namin na biocontrol.

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03:34:14.660 --> 03:34:16.460
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: 2,600 per hectare lang.

asr-004049
03:34:16.820 --> 03:34:18.180
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Nabibili po mo siya Shopee.

asr-004050
03:34:18.620 --> 03:34:20.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Tapos pag binili mo siya Shopee,

asr-004051
03:34:20.160 --> 03:34:25.680
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: pwede mo siyang padamihin sa isang lab na kayang gawin ng mga agricultural students.

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03:34:26.500 --> 03:34:28.480
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So, we do support that budget.

asr-004053
03:34:28.640 --> 03:34:31.860
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Sana pataasin po yung pagkontrol mismo dito sa peste na ito.

asr-004054
03:34:31.940 --> 03:34:35.340
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: In fact, itong peste na RSSI, kapatid po siya ng cocolisap.

asr-004055
03:34:36.100 --> 03:34:36.860
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Sen Pangilinan.

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03:34:37.540 --> 03:34:42.020
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pareho silang, they bore into the actual cane.

asr-004057
03:34:42.520 --> 03:34:43.760
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Tapos sisip-sipin ngayon tamis.

asr-004058
03:34:43.920 --> 03:34:45.260
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kaya siya masama siya sa sugar.

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03:34:46.280 --> 03:34:47.980
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So, I also wanted to,

asr-004060
03:34:47.980 --> 03:34:50.100
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: kung ano po yung ginawa,

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03:34:50.160 --> 03:34:52.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: kung ano po yung ginawa nyo sa coconut,

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03:34:52.160 --> 03:34:54.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: please do it with sugar.

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03:34:54.160 --> 03:34:59.540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kasi ang dami pong nawawalan ng hanap buhay dahil dito siya sa cocolisap.

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03:34:59.540 --> 03:35:02.540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: I just wanted to follow up po.

asr-004065
03:35:02.540 --> 03:35:04.540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Deliver niyo po yung budget na yung DA.

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03:35:04.540 --> 03:35:07.540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Hingin niyo po sa Senate yung susuportahan po ng civil society.

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03:35:07.540 --> 03:35:09.540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Yung hihingin ninyo.

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03:35:09.540 --> 03:35:11.540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kasi napakadami po talaga ng apektado.

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03:35:11.540 --> 03:35:13.540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pangalawa po,

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03:35:13.540 --> 03:35:17.540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: hindi lang po sana namin gusto gawin ito sa sugar.

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03:35:17.540 --> 03:35:19.540
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Nabanggit na rin doon sa usapan with

asr-004072
03:35:20.160 --> 03:35:22.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Sen Zubiri

asr-004073
03:35:22.160 --> 03:35:26.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: na napakalaki nung issue nung access to fertilizer and pesticides na imported.

asr-004074
03:35:26.160 --> 03:35:28.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And we do note that

asr-004075
03:35:28.160 --> 03:35:30.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: bukod sa mahal,

asr-004076
03:35:30.160 --> 03:35:32.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: nakakasira siya sa lupa.

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03:35:32.160 --> 03:35:34.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Tapos there are actually reports that

asr-004078
03:35:34.160 --> 03:35:37.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: we are still using about seven fertilizers,

asr-004079
03:35:37.160 --> 03:35:39.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: particularly ang banana,

asr-004080
03:35:39.160 --> 03:35:43.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: na banned na sa European Union and the US.

asr-004081
03:35:43.160 --> 03:35:45.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We need to take it.

asr-004082
03:35:45.160 --> 03:35:49.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We will submit you the list of the actual names of the fertilizers.

asr-004083
03:35:49.160 --> 03:35:51.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So this is the point is to say

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03:35:51.160 --> 03:35:55.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: that we wanted to veer away from importing fertilizers and pesticides.

asr-004085
03:35:55.160 --> 03:35:57.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And to develop our own industry.

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03:35:57.160 --> 03:36:04.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: To develop more nature-based and farmer-friendly inputs to farming.

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03:36:04.160 --> 03:36:06.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: In essence kasi,

asr-004088
03:36:06.160 --> 03:36:08.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: you take away the money from importing.

asr-004089
03:36:08.160 --> 03:36:10.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pag ininvest mo siya sa baba,

asr-004090
03:36:10.160 --> 03:36:13.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: magdadagdag ka ng value na pwede i-create nung farmer.

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03:36:13.160 --> 03:36:15.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Dagdag income sa kanya kasi yun e

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: pag siya yung gumawa ng mismo fertilizer.

asr-004093
03:36:17.160 --> 03:36:21.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pag mayroon mo pa yung lupa kasi hindi mo sinira because of synthetic fertilizer.

asr-004094
03:36:21.160 --> 03:36:23.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So we do encourage this.

asr-004095
03:36:23.160 --> 03:36:24.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Sana po makita namin ito.

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03:36:24.160 --> 03:36:30.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Ang tagal na namin pinapush ito throughout all of the commodity chains.

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03:36:30.160 --> 03:36:32.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So yun po yung mga natutuwa kami.

asr-004098
03:36:32.160 --> 03:36:36.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Some points that we remain concerned about.

asr-004099
03:36:36.160 --> 03:36:38.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Mayroon po rin pong reports that

asr-004100
03:36:38.160 --> 03:36:44.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: I think Inquire published that about 40% of our farming and fishing population

asr-004101
03:36:44.160 --> 03:36:46.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: remains to be registered with the RSVSA.

asr-004102
03:36:47.160 --> 03:36:49.160
CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So we wanted to press na

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: sana may action plan to deal with this gap on registration.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: From what we also understand,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: most of the consequential services of the DA require

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: some form of registration.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Magiging farmers association or fisher folk association.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And yet the numbers do tell,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: and this is from a report by the ATI themselves,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: na 80% lang ng farmers natin ang may access to organizational registration.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So in essence,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: by that policy,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: only 20% are reached by very big agricultural support services.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And ito po, problema ko po yun kasi ang laki po ng budget ng DA.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Ang ibig sabihin mo ba nun 20% lang talaga yung balak natin pagsisilbihan?

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We already suggested from the last budget,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: nag-participate din po kasi kami doon.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We issued questions to the House of Representatives sa DA last year.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Nag-commit po ang ating DA to invest on community organizing

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: or in improving yung pag-fe-federate ng mga farmers

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: into actual agricultural cooperatives.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Hindi ko po nakita where that promise went.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pero I do recognize that this is already in the bill of the good senator na ano yung

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: agricultural extension and cooperatives bills.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Bukod po dito, hindi naman po kailangan po yung batas,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: but we also note na hindi din po gumagalaw yung,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: civil society led na Philippine Action Plan for Family Farming.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We already participated heavily on this.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: It was inked on 2019.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Ang pinaka thesis po, pinaka point po ng policy na ito,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: is to ensure that agricultural services do not remain with yung SUKI system,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: yung mga laging binibigyan,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: but actually penetrate yung family farms, yung mga poor smallholder farmers.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Na siya talagang yung majority of our farming population.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: I invite everyone.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Tingnan po natin yun, hindi po siya financed properly since 2019.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Hopefully, yung ATI also, si Ma'am Ricotera, we are very familiar.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Sana po pwede niyo po i-submit kina, Senator Kiko, kung ano po yung

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: kailangan ninyong budget para supportahan.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kasi essentially, what we want with the PAP for FF,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Action Plan on Family Farming,

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: is to strengthen the citizenship of farmers and fishers.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: To take, to influence the actual delivery of services.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kasi maganda po yung agri-extension na the government wants to go closer to the farmers.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pero the intent of the PAP for FF is that the farmers themselves access it.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kumbaga, this is the demand side na nag-e-empower ng farmers.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So, hopefully po, at this point.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Last point na lang po.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We echo the point of Senator Ratul Tulfo that we want to pass the National Land Use Act.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Erwin.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Ah, Erwin po. Erwin, yeah.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Na ano?

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Concerned po kami kasi it's been a decade na rin that we've been converting more than we've been irrigating.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Consistent po yun.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: We've been irrigating at least 30% lang nung nako-convert every year in terms of coverage.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Tapos, sobrang dami yung farmers groups that issue concerns of accessing information on irrigation.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kasi ang policy po ng DA, which we appreciate, meron siyang public consultation.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Merong public consultations every time there's reclassification ng local government units.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Tsaka may conversion with the DAR.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Ang problema, wala kasing access yung farmers dun sa irrigation data.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: And therefore, hindi sila makapag-participate meaningfully.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Di ko alam, I give the benefit of the doubt, this might just be a technological issue or technical issue na hindi mabigay yung data.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Pero sana, sana hindi po ano, sana seryosohin na po ito.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: Kasi mauubos na po yung sakahan natin at hindi pa rin napapasa yung Land Use Act.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So in the meantime, baka pwede po ito gawin ng DA na everybody gets access to that information.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So that we could meaningfully participate when any farmland is being applied for conversion.

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CODE-NGO Project Coordinator Timothy Salomon: So yun po, salamat.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you Tim.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just to inform you also, it's actually the measures that we have passed on.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Third reading in the Senate are twin measures.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The Extension Services and the Bureau of Agriculture and Fisheries Co-ops re-establishing.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In other words, the organizing, the development of the agri-coops, we will now place under the Department of Agriculture rather than with the Cooperative Development Authority.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The CDA will handle the regulation.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But the strengthening and building and developing the agri-coops will be directly handled by the Department of Agriculture.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Which was what it was before the devolving of the agri.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: To the local governments.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So there used to be a Bureau of Agriculture and Fisheries Extension Services and a Bureau of Agriculture and Fisheries Co-op.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So ibabalik natin dahil nga kailangan ng directang suporta hanggang sa grassroots level ang ating mga magsasaka at mga anginista.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So thank you for the inputs of Tim and Ken.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, go ahead sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, I would like to take the opportunity habang nandito yung People's Budget Coalition to bring up a topic about yung aming livestock budget.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Para open at walang, ang request kasi ng DA is yung 20 billion doon sa IDCA funds na every year bibigay sa amin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Basis sa rules of the GAAA, hindi namin magagamit for next year eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So sayang.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So ang sinasabi namin kung pwedeng tanggalin yan sa aming budget next year at ilipat na lang sa 2028 when we are ready to implement that.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And ibalik yung regular budget namin for 2027.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasi with the way things are instructed doon sa GAAA for 2027, November na namin matatapos yung, November 2027 matatapos yung restructuring ng DA laws.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So just to re-structuring ng DA livestock grupe.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So I am just putting it on the table in front of yung ating mga ngos.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Para, for full transparency, kasi baka makita ninyo na sa kali pumayag ang bite camp na baguhin namin, walang walang kalokohan doon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kailangan namin gawin kung hindi, patay ang livestock sector natin next year, yun lang sir.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you. Thank you for that, Sec. I just wanted to clarify, going back to the budget, yung biosafety na 1 billion which we restored last year, may we know what's the status? Kasi my understanding is hindi pa ito na didisburst, hindi pa na-obligate.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, sir. Yes, Mr. Chair. Well, I'm happy to report that we are ready for bidding already on the three sites. We are just waiting for the SARO. Na-request na namin, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So you expect the SARO to be released anytime?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you. So that's good news. Dito sa solar power irrigation for 2025, yung nabanggit ng COA na

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 1.64 billion of the solar power.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: irrigation for 2025 had not been utilized or had not been obligated or disbursed?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, na-re-issue lang sa amin yung SARO niyan a few months ago.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Oh, just a few months ago. Okay. So, andyan na? Ready for...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair. We are bidding pa lang now, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you. And yung sa cold storage naman of 2025, 1.5 billion. Again, lumabas na ba yung SARO nito? Kasi as of COA findings, 1.4 percent pa lang ng 1.5 billion, and because you are also asking for another appropriation for 2027, so how is it now with this cold storage?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: uh appropriation our research here uh it's being implemented as I mentioned actually

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: last week I was in uh this week I was in council we turned over four uh we finished already on pili

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: camsure uh mega cold storage that's 500 million uh earlier this year uh 60 units 70 units

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh okay just just to be to be able to understand it but not delay yung saro

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: um no meaning bucket naging 2025 a 1.4 percent lang yung cold storage uh utilization what happened

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: there it's more of the technical designs but no that's why it took long but now since the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: top of tsunami lahat now it's on be uh on construction of all that so it's popping out

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: um okay and I would assume the same for the solar power irrigation uh there was solar power

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: irrigation uh Mr chair na flr huyan eh okay so the one technical uh just to explain more on the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: modular cold storage yes uh actually like partly the immerging design of innovation

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: uh because I wanted the off-grid

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: would mean solar with battery

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and para makasigurado,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: linagyan pa namin ng wind

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: turbine. Then yung structure

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to carry the solar

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: panels,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may laking debate pa doon sa design

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: eh, kasi will we over

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: design it or not eh. So the decision

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: was, i-over

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: design na ng konti para

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: doon sa area mataming dagat

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and everything, may medyo

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: bagyo resistance. Partly

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that was the main issue.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of course,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: every time I see the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: inaugurations, you know, I'm

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: happy na may mga

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tiniturn over.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: My concern lang is the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: beneficiaries of these

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: projects, are they

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: capacitated

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: absorb it and make sure

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that it is properly maintained and

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: utilized? Because

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that's actually, you know,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a recurring concern. Nata-turn

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: over yung equipment, nata-turn over

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung facility, pero

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the long run, dahil

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung capacity ng organizations

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: are such, hindi

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hindi na may

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maintain. Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa training on the use,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may training talagang kasama

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as a part of the package. Then

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as far as maintenance is concerned,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: three years ho ang warranty niyan,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: period. So, I think

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: three years is medyo

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maganda yun.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then, it's simple to use. Actually,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: when I inaugurated four,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: just last,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: just this week, actually, Monday.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tama, Monday.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kausap ko mismo yung farmer.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sige ko, marunong ko ba mag-operate nito?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: O, boss, naturuan ako. Sige ko, pakita mo

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nga sa akin. So, siya mismo. Although, kasi

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: push button lang siya. Tapos, of course,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: there's a number there naman kung nasira

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03:49:16.920 --> 03:49:18.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at pwede lang tawagan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, after service lang ang kailangan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kailangan namin tutukan siguro. But,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it's simple enough to operate.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's robust. Matibay namin ginawa.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And, I'm sure

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: makakatulong ho yun, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And, maybe your

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your reach program should be

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba, should

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: also be dovetailing

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: efforts, the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: turnover, and then you have

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know, your reach program wherein

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nariyan yung ating mga

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: agri-extension workers

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: providing,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: monitoring,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: assistance, and the like.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tama ba yun? Yes, Mr. Chair.

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03:49:57.100 --> 03:49:59.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung inyong thrust sa ating reach

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03:49:59.000 --> 03:50:00.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: program with the extension workers

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: will solve 50% of the

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: problems of the Department of Agriculture

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and support lalo na yung hinihingi ni

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Salomon

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na mga issues na

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03:50:13.100 --> 03:50:14.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: they wanted to be resolved.

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03:50:14.840 --> 03:50:16.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Extension workers talaga ang key.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Even yung sa RSVSA, without

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03:50:18.920 --> 03:50:20.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the extension workers, it is in

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: possible, I tell you, impossible na

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03:50:22.780 --> 03:50:24.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: maayos namin yan. That is the only

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: way, extension workers, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you. Maybe you can convince the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: President na i-certify us

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: urgent para maipasa na ng house.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos na tayo rito eh. It's

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the house that's

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: working on it.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair. I will really

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: push for that, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? Kasi

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we need it passed. In fact,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I had hoped that we could pass it

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: before we finalize the budget

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03:50:48.580 --> 03:50:50.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that may mailalagay na tayo.

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03:50:50.720 --> 03:50:52.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Na tayong pondo. But in the meantime,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we will probably just augment

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03:50:54.900 --> 03:50:56.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung REACH

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03:50:56.260 --> 03:50:58.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: program ng DA

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in anticipation

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the creation of

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Bureau.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And we can probably have, we might

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: have to include a provision

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dun sa BICAM.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba yung transition? Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: thank you. We

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: now go to...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung fisheries, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You know,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Director, nung March,

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03:51:27.140 --> 03:51:28.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nag-hearing tayo,

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03:51:29.340 --> 03:51:31.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: may mga hinihingi

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03:51:31.140 --> 03:51:33.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: akong dokumento sa inyo, no?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi nyo pa naibibigay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pati ako na,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pati kami, medyo na

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hindi naman na-discaril, pero na-distract

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil nga nagkaroon ng

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senate

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senate

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senate

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senate

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Intramurals.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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03:51:55.900 --> 03:51:57.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero sabi ko nga,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: after that happened, and then a few

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: months, a few weeks,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi ko, okay, the Senate is back to work.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But hindi nyo na-submit sa amin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You don't have to submit it now,

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03:52:07.300 --> 03:52:08.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but before plenary

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in November,

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03:52:11.580 --> 03:52:12.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hiningi ko sa inyo yung

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: binanggit ninyong

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mga kaso, di ba?

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03:52:17.640 --> 03:52:18.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Involving encroachment.

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03:52:19.480 --> 03:52:20.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: This was the...

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03:52:20.720 --> 03:52:22.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: issue of your monitoring

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03:52:22.800 --> 03:52:25.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung mga violations

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03:52:25.380 --> 03:52:27.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa municipal waters,

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03:52:27.800 --> 03:52:30.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: violations nitong mga commercial vessels,

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03:52:30.400 --> 03:52:30.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: et cetera.

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03:52:31.620 --> 03:52:34.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero sabi nyo, isasubmit ninyo, pero wala kayong

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sinubmit, no?

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03:52:36.740 --> 03:52:37.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: For example,

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03:52:38.560 --> 03:52:39.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I asked you, what were these

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the 7,639 cases,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: how many involve

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03:52:43.820 --> 03:52:46.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: encroachment into municipal waters?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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03:52:49.040 --> 03:52:49.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sabi nyo,

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03:52:50.720 --> 03:52:53.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: all these cases

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03:52:53.820 --> 03:52:55.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: involve not just encroachment,

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03:52:56.000 --> 03:52:57.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but also other illegal activities.

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03:52:58.460 --> 03:52:59.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So I asked you for

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03:52:59.560 --> 03:53:00.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a breakdown.

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03:53:02.020 --> 03:53:03.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay? Tapos, how many

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: cases involve entry into the

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 15-kilometer municipal waters?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You identified

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03:53:11.720 --> 03:53:14.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 551

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03:53:14.160 --> 03:53:16.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Section 86 violations,

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03:53:16.000 --> 03:53:17.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but you did not provide

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03:53:17.880 --> 03:53:20.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a complete breakdown of the 7,600.

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03:53:20.720 --> 03:53:22.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I want to know if you're

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03:53:22.100 --> 03:53:23.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: actually being able to police

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03:53:23.960 --> 03:53:26.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the waters. Because the Mercader

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03:53:26.320 --> 03:53:27.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: case does not apply

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03:53:27.700 --> 03:53:29.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to all other commercial

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03:53:29.600 --> 03:53:32.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: vessels. It only applies

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03:53:32.320 --> 03:53:33.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to Mercader, correct?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Correct?

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03:53:34.900 --> 03:53:35.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Correct?

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03:53:37.740 --> 03:53:38.820
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? Kasi kayo nagsabi nun eh.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa Mercader lang ito. That's why I went

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03:53:43.500 --> 03:53:45.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to, eh paano nyo na

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03:53:45.240 --> 03:53:47.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mamonitor? Eh ngayon, nagka-problematize

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03:53:47.340 --> 03:53:48.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil sabi ng Supreme Court.

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03:53:49.680 --> 03:53:50.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah, nag-MR,

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03:53:50.720 --> 03:53:51.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ba ang ano? Ang

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03:53:51.820 --> 03:53:54.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ah, ang BIFAR

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03:53:54.620 --> 03:53:56.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dun sa ruling na

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03:53:56.200 --> 03:53:58.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na hindi pwedeng

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03:53:58.760 --> 03:54:00.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lagyan ng monitoring

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03:54:00.680 --> 03:54:02.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: equipment yung mga

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03:54:02.640 --> 03:54:04.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: commercial vessels?

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03:54:04.760 --> 03:54:06.740
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yes, Mr. Chair. Lag-MR po

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03:54:06.740 --> 03:54:08.660
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: ang BIFAR. So the case

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03:54:08.660 --> 03:54:10.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is still pending?

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03:54:11.080 --> 03:54:11.800
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. Can you

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03:54:12.740 --> 03:54:14.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: give me copies of your

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03:54:14.600 --> 03:54:16.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: petition? Ah?

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03:54:16.740 --> 03:54:17.850
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ah, yes. We will provide.

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03:54:17.850 --> 03:54:18.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi paano nyo

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03:54:18.660 --> 03:54:19.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ngayon mamonitor?

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03:54:20.720 --> 03:54:22.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung municipal waters at yung

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03:54:22.680 --> 03:54:24.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: violations ng commercial fishing

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03:54:24.580 --> 03:54:26.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: vessels kung wala na yung inyong

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03:54:26.740 --> 03:54:28.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ah, equipment.

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03:54:29.820 --> 03:54:30.860
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ah, Mr. Chair.

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03:54:31.140 --> 03:54:32.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos wala namang kayong maraming

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03:54:32.680 --> 03:54:34.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bapon na pwedeng coast guard,

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03:54:35.280 --> 03:54:36.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: enough coast guard, ah,

asr-004430
03:54:36.720 --> 03:54:38.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and bureau of fisheries

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03:54:38.400 --> 03:54:40.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: vessels to be able to monitor

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03:54:40.740 --> 03:54:42.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ah, our

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03:54:42.560 --> 03:54:43.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: municipal waters.

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03:54:44.840 --> 03:54:46.740
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ah, Mr. Chair, ah, traditionally

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03:54:46.740 --> 03:54:48.480
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: ah, BIFAR has been

asr-004436
03:54:48.480 --> 03:54:50.380
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: continuously implementing

asr-004437
03:54:50.380 --> 03:54:52.060
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: its business monitoring BIM

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03:54:52.060 --> 03:54:54.100
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: in line with international

asr-004439
03:54:54.100 --> 03:54:56.360
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: practices in fisheries

asr-004440
03:54:56.360 --> 03:54:57.700
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: monitoring and law enforcement.

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03:54:57.920 --> 03:54:59.400
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Tuloy-tuloy pa ang aming implementation.

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03:54:59.760 --> 03:55:02.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I know. Well, as best as you can

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03:55:02.460 --> 03:55:03.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: given your limited

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03:55:03.540 --> 03:55:05.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: equipment, personnel,

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03:55:06.000 --> 03:55:06.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba, and the

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03:55:06.860 --> 03:55:10.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and the massive

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: coastline of the country, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So I understand. You're

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03:55:14.260 --> 03:55:16.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: doing what you can. That's why I want to see the

asr-004450
03:55:16.220 --> 03:55:18.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: petition, di ba? So, please.

asr-004451
03:55:19.020 --> 03:55:19.680
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yes, Mr. Chair.

asr-004452
03:55:19.680 --> 03:55:20.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sinabi nyo,

asr-004453
03:55:20.380 --> 03:55:22.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: isasubmit yung data bago

asr-004454
03:55:22.400 --> 03:55:24.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mag-plenary, isubmit ninyo.

asr-004455
03:55:24.560 --> 03:55:24.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah?

asr-004456
03:55:26.020 --> 03:55:28.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos, how many notices of violations

asr-004457
03:55:28.300 --> 03:55:29.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: were issued for encroachment?

asr-004458
03:55:31.000 --> 03:55:32.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How many became complaints?

asr-004459
03:55:33.740 --> 03:55:34.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? Kasi iba pa yung

asr-004460
03:55:34.940 --> 03:55:37.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: notice, iba pa yung

asr-004461
03:55:37.180 --> 03:55:38.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: complaint. Di ba?

asr-004462
03:55:41.040 --> 03:55:42.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And how many of the

asr-004463
03:55:42.620 --> 03:55:44.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 551 section 86

asr-004464
03:55:44.660 --> 03:55:45.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: cases were resolved?

asr-004465
03:55:47.480 --> 03:55:47.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

asr-004466
03:55:48.980 --> 03:55:50.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And i-update na ninyo.

asr-004467
03:55:50.380 --> 03:55:52.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At the latest, 2026,

asr-004468
03:55:53.300 --> 03:55:54.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as of third quarter,

asr-004469
03:55:55.280 --> 03:55:56.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if you can submit that, no?

asr-004470
03:55:57.360 --> 03:55:58.340
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ah, yes, Mr. Chair.

asr-004471
03:55:58.440 --> 03:55:59.240
BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Tomorrow, bigay namin.

asr-004472
03:55:59.600 --> 03:56:01.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. Hindi pa tapos yung ating hearing sa

asr-004473
03:56:01.680 --> 03:56:04.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: municipal waters because we are preparing

asr-004474
03:56:04.600 --> 03:56:06.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a bill to clarify

asr-004475
03:56:06.920 --> 03:56:08.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: precisely a law.

asr-004476
03:56:09.000 --> 03:56:11.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? To amend the fisheries code.

asr-004477
03:56:12.060 --> 03:56:13.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah, di ba?

asr-004478
03:56:14.120 --> 03:56:15.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kayo na rin ang

asr-004479
03:56:15.080 --> 03:56:16.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: doon sa hearing na yun, di ba?

asr-004480
03:56:17.540 --> 03:56:18.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang sinabi ng ating mga

asr-004481
03:56:18.940 --> 03:56:19.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: stakeholders,

asr-004482
03:56:20.380 --> 03:56:22.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung mga malalaking vessel na

asr-004483
03:56:22.280 --> 03:56:24.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pumapasok sa 15 kilometer

asr-004484
03:56:24.160 --> 03:56:26.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: municipal waters area,

asr-004485
03:56:26.540 --> 03:56:28.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sinisira yung mga

asr-004486
03:56:28.360 --> 03:56:30.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: coral reefs. Di ba?

asr-004487
03:56:31.580 --> 03:56:32.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah, kaya

asr-004488
03:56:32.460 --> 03:56:34.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung batas na yan, yung panukalang

asr-004489
03:56:34.580 --> 03:56:36.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: batas, dapat ma-uproobahan natin

asr-004490
03:56:36.220 --> 03:56:38.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para maprotektahan yung ating municipal

asr-004491
03:56:38.240 --> 03:56:40.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: waters. We're also looking

asr-004492
03:56:40.420 --> 03:56:42.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at the data. Tama ba?

asr-004493
03:56:43.760 --> 03:56:44.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dahil mukhang

asr-004494
03:56:44.260 --> 03:56:46.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagbago yung data, nag-improve

asr-004495
03:56:46.100 --> 03:56:47.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung income ng mga

asr-004496
03:56:47.600 --> 03:56:50.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: small fishers, pero in 2020,

asr-004497
03:56:50.380 --> 03:56:51.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 2025, tumaas ang kita

asr-004498
03:56:51.980 --> 03:56:53.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng commercial fishing,

asr-004499
03:56:54.400 --> 03:56:56.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tumaas yung production, pero

asr-004500
03:56:56.160 --> 03:56:58.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bumagsak yung

asr-004501
03:56:58.160 --> 03:56:59.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: production ng

asr-004502
03:56:59.000 --> 03:57:01.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: small fishers.

asr-004503
03:57:02.120 --> 03:57:03.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I need the data

asr-004504
03:57:03.960 --> 03:57:05.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: today. Ano na ang production

asr-004505
03:57:05.920 --> 03:57:08.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: output ng small fishers

asr-004506
03:57:08.140 --> 03:57:10.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: relative to the commercial

asr-004507
03:57:10.240 --> 03:57:11.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: vessels?

asr-004508
03:57:12.220 --> 03:57:13.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? Yung breakdown nun.

asr-004509
03:57:15.040 --> 03:57:15.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Alam ko,

asr-004510
03:57:16.320 --> 03:57:17.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: by quarter, tumaas, pero

asr-004511
03:57:17.900 --> 03:57:19.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mas gusto ko makita yung

asr-004512
03:57:19.640 --> 03:57:20.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: buong picture.

asr-004513
03:57:20.380 --> 03:57:21.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

asr-004514
03:57:22.600 --> 03:57:22.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now,

asr-004515
03:57:23.540 --> 03:57:26.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para sa...

asr-004516
03:57:31.160 --> 03:57:38.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: For the high value crops,

asr-004517
03:57:39.140 --> 03:57:40.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: my understanding is

asr-004518
03:57:40.560 --> 03:57:42.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: based on the

asr-004519
03:57:42.160 --> 03:57:44.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: COA findings,

asr-004520
03:57:44.440 --> 03:57:46.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung

asr-004521
03:57:46.600 --> 03:57:49.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: obligation rates,

asr-004522
03:57:50.380 --> 03:57:51.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagbago na ba ito?

asr-004523
03:57:52.560 --> 03:57:54.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And your disbursement rates?

asr-004524
03:57:56.600 --> 03:57:57.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 59%,

asr-004525
03:57:57.320 --> 03:57:59.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 59.3%

asr-004526
03:57:59.080 --> 03:58:00.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: disbursement rate.

asr-004527
03:58:02.760 --> 03:58:04.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So may balance

asr-004528
03:58:04.120 --> 03:58:05.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: si pang 665 million?

asr-004529
03:58:08.260 --> 03:58:09.660
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Thank you for that,

asr-004530
03:58:10.600 --> 03:58:12.300
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Mr. Chair. Umakit na po tayo

asr-004531
03:58:12.300 --> 03:58:13.700
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: sa 73%.

asr-004532
03:58:13.700 --> 03:58:16.240
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: And then may commitment po tayo

asr-004533
03:58:16.240 --> 03:58:18.500
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: to improve the obligation by October

asr-004534
03:58:18.500 --> 03:58:19.660
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: to 80%.

asr-004535
03:58:19.660 --> 03:58:20.260
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: To 80%.

asr-004536
03:58:20.380 --> 03:58:22.420
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: And then by November to 90%,

asr-004537
03:58:22.420 --> 03:58:24.360
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: and by December to 94%,

asr-004538
03:58:24.360 --> 03:58:24.980
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Mr. Chair.

asr-004539
03:58:25.200 --> 03:58:27.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, because if you will recall,

asr-004540
03:58:27.520 --> 03:58:29.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the last budget cycle,

asr-004541
03:58:30.160 --> 03:58:31.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we introduced

asr-004542
03:58:31.120 --> 03:58:33.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 440 million additional

asr-004543
03:58:33.780 --> 03:58:35.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for high value crops, di ba?

asr-004544
03:58:35.800 --> 03:58:37.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Particularly for coffee and cacao.

asr-004545
03:58:37.860 --> 03:58:39.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But my understanding is,

asr-004546
03:58:40.060 --> 03:58:42.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kulang pa ang documentation ninyo

asr-004547
03:58:42.220 --> 03:58:44.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para ma-release yung pondo

asr-004548
03:58:44.140 --> 03:58:44.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng DBM.

asr-004549
03:58:46.320 --> 03:58:47.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How is that going now?

asr-004550
03:58:47.880 --> 03:58:49.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi hindi pa daw na-re-release.

asr-004551
03:58:50.380 --> 03:58:52.300
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Thank you for that question, Mr. Chair.

asr-004552
03:58:52.440 --> 03:58:54.320
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Actually, the biggest chunk

asr-004553
03:58:54.320 --> 03:58:56.320
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: is the AEW incentives.

asr-004554
03:58:56.800 --> 03:58:57.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

asr-004555
03:58:57.060 --> 03:58:59.920
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Nasa 200 million po yun.

asr-004556
03:59:01.080 --> 03:59:03.020
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Currently, what we're doing is

asr-004557
03:59:03.020 --> 03:59:05.340
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: we request, we provided

asr-004558
03:59:05.340 --> 03:59:07.360
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: already the mechanism

asr-004559
03:59:07.360 --> 03:59:08.600
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: kung paano nila

asr-004560
03:59:08.600 --> 03:59:10.540
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: i-re-release yun

asr-004561
03:59:10.540 --> 03:59:13.280
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: considering the AOM

asr-004562
03:59:13.280 --> 03:59:15.300
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: and the, from COA.

asr-004563
03:59:15.860 --> 03:59:17.020
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: And so with

asr-004564
03:59:17.020 --> 03:59:18.940
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: that, Mr. Chair, we're confident

asr-004565
03:59:18.940 --> 03:59:20.360
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: that that can be disbursed.

asr-004566
03:59:20.380 --> 03:59:22.460
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: So that will trigger a higher

asr-004567
03:59:22.460 --> 03:59:23.620
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: obligation rate

asr-004568
03:59:23.620 --> 03:59:26.580
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: of the threshold level

asr-004569
03:59:26.580 --> 03:59:27.460
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: to 80%.

asr-004570
03:59:27.460 --> 03:59:30.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. So, can you update us there?

asr-004571
03:59:30.760 --> 03:59:32.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi you're asking for an additional

asr-004572
03:59:32.360 --> 03:59:32.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: magkano?

asr-004573
03:59:36.240 --> 03:59:36.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah.

asr-004574
03:59:37.620 --> 03:59:39.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung sa UB, di ba?

asr-004575
03:59:39.880 --> 03:59:41.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 300 million ba?

asr-004576
03:59:41.700 --> 03:59:42.660
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Yes, Mr. Chair.

asr-004577
03:59:42.740 --> 03:59:45.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ako, I support that.

asr-004578
03:59:45.980 --> 03:59:46.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero,

asr-004579
03:59:47.100 --> 03:59:49.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: how do we make sure na hindi

asr-004580
03:59:49.920 --> 03:59:51.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mabibitin yung

asr-004581
03:59:51.680 --> 03:59:53.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: budget release because of

asr-004582
03:59:53.420 --> 03:59:55.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lack of

asr-004583
03:59:55.480 --> 03:59:57.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: proper documentation?

asr-004584
03:59:57.820 --> 03:59:58.540
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Yes, Mr. Chair.

asr-004585
03:59:58.800 --> 04:00:00.000
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: We will do...

asr-004586
04:00:00.000 --> 04:00:12.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If you can update us before plenary, just before plenary, kung may developments doon. Kasi documentation yan, so kinakailangan. The ball is on your court.

asr-004587
04:00:12.600 --> 04:00:13.800
DA Undersecretary Cheryl Marie Natividad-Caballero: Yes, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

asr-004588
04:00:13.800 --> 04:00:37.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. Now, the same goes for yung sagipsakan na 500 million. Ano na ang status noon? Na FLR, tapos ang sinasabi ng DBM, kulang din ang documentation, tama?

asr-004589
04:00:38.360 --> 04:00:43.460
DA Assistant Secretary Joycel R. Panlilio: There were additional documentary requirements, Mr. Chair, but we've already completed it.

asr-004590
04:00:43.460 --> 04:00:48.700
DA Assistant Secretary Joycel R. Panlilio: And it's with our budget office already for the final review prior to release to the DBM.

asr-004591
04:00:49.100 --> 04:00:53.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sige. So, kompleto na, ha? Maraming...

asr-004592
04:00:54.260 --> 04:00:55.540
DA Assistant Secretary Joycel R. Panlilio: Yes, po, Mr. Chair.

asr-004593
04:00:56.060 --> 04:01:02.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pinaglalabang ko yung budget nyo. Tapos hindi pa pala na-re-release yung sagipsakan.

asr-004594
04:01:02.940 --> 04:01:12.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero, again, before plenary in November, if you can update us as regards the release.

asr-004595
04:01:12.580 --> 04:01:14.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dito sa...

asr-004596
04:01:15.160 --> 04:01:22.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Meron akong tanong sa live staff, no? Kasi yung rendering.

asr-004597
04:01:23.680 --> 04:01:25.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Remember, I asked for a...

asr-004598
04:01:26.600 --> 04:01:27.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Napirmahan na, no?

asr-004599
04:01:27.580 --> 04:01:35.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Can you clarify that? Yung memorandum of agreement between the DA and the BOC on rendering?

asr-004600
04:01:36.780 --> 04:01:40.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, meron na kaming...

asr-004601
04:01:40.580 --> 04:01:42.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Well, basically, it was signed na.

asr-004602
04:01:42.580 --> 04:01:45.780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We have the copy here. We will submit to you today.

asr-004603
04:01:46.220 --> 04:01:47.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Oh, yes. Thank you. Thank you.

asr-004604
04:01:47.180 --> 04:01:48.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, okay na ito, Mr. Chair.

asr-004605
04:01:48.140 --> 04:01:51.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. That's good. Kasi nga, may mga concerns noon.

asr-004606
04:01:51.620 --> 04:01:55.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In fact, noong 20...

asr-004607
04:01:55.980 --> 04:01:58.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kailan yung sa... Big or global?

asr-004608
04:01:59.700 --> 04:01:59.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Or?

asr-004609
04:02:00.880 --> 04:02:11.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah, yung 2024 incident of 100 million pesos worth of smuggled frozen meat na natiklo o...

asr-004610
04:02:11.620 --> 04:02:12.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nagkaroon ng raid.

asr-004611
04:02:13.000 --> 04:02:16.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nandun pa si Mr. Yusek Pineda ba? Arnel?

asr-004612
04:02:17.880 --> 04:02:18.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Demesa.

asr-004613
04:02:21.700 --> 04:02:27.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nangyari doon sa huling hearing namin, and that's the reason why we asked for that,

asr-004614
04:02:27.940 --> 04:02:35.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: was because ang sinabi nung taga-NMIS na bigla-bigla silang pinatawag.

asr-004615
04:02:36.200 --> 04:02:37.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tama, di ba? If I remember right.

asr-004616
04:02:38.920 --> 04:02:40.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If I remember correctly.

asr-004617
04:02:41.620 --> 04:02:45.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At mag-inspect doon mano nung rendering.

asr-004618
04:02:46.420 --> 04:02:47.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? Pero ang nangyari,

asr-004619
04:02:47.840 --> 04:03:01.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: eh, siya mismo umamin na, tawag dito, na hindi na-destroy, hindi na...

asr-004620
04:03:01.980 --> 04:03:05.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It wasn't the... What's the term?

asr-004621
04:03:07.280 --> 04:03:08.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sorry. Forgive my...

asr-004622
04:03:08.840 --> 04:03:10.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At binenta.

asr-004623
04:03:10.780 --> 04:03:10.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At binenta.

asr-004624
04:03:10.840 --> 04:03:15.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa mga fishpond owners, para pakain sa mga hito.

asr-004625
04:03:18.000 --> 04:03:18.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

asr-004626
04:03:20.760 --> 04:03:28.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, I don't know. Was that ever investigated by NMIS or by BAE?

asr-004627
04:03:31.440 --> 04:03:36.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But anyway, there's another one. The reason why I asked that is because itong huli.

asr-004628
04:03:36.480 --> 04:03:37.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Eh, nasan yun?

asr-004629
04:03:40.840 --> 04:03:42.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito lang.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito ba yan?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung 6.7 mis-declared chicken shipment busted at the port of Subic.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos, ang sinabi ay binenta ng 120 pesos a kilo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

asr-004635
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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya natiklo ng BOE.

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04:04:10.840 --> 04:04:11.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

asr-004637
04:04:11.840 --> 04:04:12.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito si...

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04:04:12.840 --> 04:04:14.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Where is that?

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04:04:19.220 --> 04:04:20.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Where is it?

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04:04:21.420 --> 04:04:25.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 1,380 cartons of frozen chicken.

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04:04:26.180 --> 04:04:31.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero ang sinabi nga, ito was, imbis na na-render, eh, binibenta.

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04:04:33.360 --> 04:04:35.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Could you care to comment on this?

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04:04:36.740 --> 04:04:37.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sino ba?

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04:04:38.080 --> 04:04:38.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Si...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. Go ahead.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Seki.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Seki.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Basically, yan na nagiging palaging issue namin with the rendering facilities.

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04:04:47.080 --> 04:04:51.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In fact, I think nagko-coordinate naman si Yusek Ito sa office ninyo.

asr-004650
04:04:52.040 --> 04:04:58.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We are actually the ones complaining na maraming rendering facilities na i-destroy nila.

asr-004651
04:04:58.760 --> 04:05:01.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May pakitang taong in-destruction pero yung iba, binibenta.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So that's why yung JMC na yan is very important na kailangan palagi ang DA at DAIE is present with other government agencies

asr-004653
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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: para masiguro pag sinabing destruction, destruction talaga.

asr-004654
04:05:18.180 --> 04:05:25.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's a matter of food safety. It's a matter of elimination of smuggling.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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04:05:30.860 --> 04:05:31.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Initially, no?

asr-004657
04:05:31.960 --> 04:05:42.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. Yung the joint on condemnation shall not apply to, this is what page?

asr-004658
04:05:43.280 --> 04:05:44.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kailangan i-clarify ito, no?

asr-004659
04:05:44.820 --> 04:05:53.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Agriculture and fisheries products ceased for violation of the anti-agriculture economic sabotage act

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04:05:53.040 --> 04:05:57.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: where the aggregate value of the ceased agri and fisheries products is 10 million.

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04:05:58.780 --> 04:06:00.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bakit siya hindi mag-a-apply dito?

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04:06:01.960 --> 04:06:03.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Why was it excluded?

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04:06:09.040 --> 04:06:11.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In other words, kung mas malaki sa 10 million,

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04:06:31.300 --> 04:06:31.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Why was it excluded?

asr-004665
04:06:31.820 --> 04:06:36.940
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Mr. Chair, I think that anything over 10 million falls under the RA-1-2022,

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: which is the council is the one that decides because that has to go through the CTA.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Sila naggagawa ng kaso.

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04:06:47.540 --> 04:06:48.100
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Yes.

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04:06:48.840 --> 04:06:53.160
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: And anything above 10 million, sir, is only destruction.

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04:06:53.780 --> 04:06:56.860
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: They have separate guidelines under the RA-1-2022.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: So anything below 10 million falls under the CMTA,

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: and it's the customs who decides the rendering or production.

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04:07:04.340 --> 04:07:06.820
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Under RA-1-2022.

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DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: No, no, yes, yes.

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04:07:07.700 --> 04:07:10.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But anything under 10 million is BOC.

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04:07:10.720 --> 04:07:11.160
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Yes, sir.

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04:07:11.360 --> 04:07:12.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then above is AES.

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04:07:13.160 --> 04:07:14.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is AAES.

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04:07:14.220 --> 04:07:16.880
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Falls under AAES already, 1-2022.

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04:07:18.880 --> 04:07:22.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, we will review this, no?

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04:07:22.340 --> 04:07:25.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then we'll see.

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04:07:26.860 --> 04:07:32.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya ibig sabihin, wala kayong kapangyarihan kung above 10 million.

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04:07:33.980 --> 04:07:37.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Wala na kayong say do sa rendering.

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04:07:38.140 --> 04:07:39.920
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: It's only destruction, sir.

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04:07:40.480 --> 04:07:41.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah, destruction lang nga.

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04:07:41.520 --> 04:07:41.840
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Yes.

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04:07:43.100 --> 04:07:47.100
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: The way it's been going on.

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04:07:47.100 --> 04:07:51.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, we'll review this, and then we'll let you know.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero napirmahan na.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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04:07:54.940 --> 04:07:56.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, it's a start.

asr-004692
04:07:56.240 --> 04:07:56.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Then we'll take it.

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04:07:56.860 --> 04:07:57.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: From there.

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04:07:57.240 --> 04:07:57.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

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04:07:58.460 --> 04:08:04.440
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: The act of rendering, sir, falls under the BOC, not the DA.

asr-004696
04:08:04.880 --> 04:08:06.320
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: The DA is a witness.

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04:08:07.320 --> 04:08:13.200
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: That's why we had the fixing of this situation, sir, with the joint memorandum.

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04:08:13.900 --> 04:08:14.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, okay.

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04:08:16.000 --> 04:08:16.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, sige.

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04:08:17.100 --> 04:08:21.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We'll review it, but at least it's a step forward, no?

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04:08:26.860 --> 04:08:27.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

asr-004702
04:08:31.340 --> 04:08:32.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sorry.

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04:08:34.540 --> 04:08:35.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ano pa yung isa?

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04:08:41.300 --> 04:08:42.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

asr-004705
04:08:42.860 --> 04:08:55.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The question regarding the farm-to-market roads, balikan ko lang, no?

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04:08:56.860 --> 04:08:58.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

asr-004707
04:08:58.860 --> 04:09:05.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Doon sa 33 billion na-allocated, again, how much has been released, bid out?

asr-004708
04:09:05.600 --> 04:09:09.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, 23 billion has been released just this October.

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04:09:09.900 --> 04:09:10.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just this October.

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04:09:11.240 --> 04:09:12.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 23 of the 33.

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04:09:12.780 --> 04:09:13.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah, yes.

asr-004712
04:09:13.320 --> 04:09:13.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That was mentioned.

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04:09:15.600 --> 04:09:23.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So today, and it's a 15 million per kilometer, no?

asr-004714
04:09:26.860 --> 04:09:30.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah, okay.

asr-004715
04:09:30.540 --> 04:09:36.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just to clarify, during the hearing last year, no?

asr-004716
04:09:36.080 --> 04:09:44.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You initially, the Secretary initially cited 64,000 kilometers needed and 36,000 kilometers validated.

asr-004717
04:09:45.680 --> 04:09:53.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But later on, naging 70,000 kilometers completed with 60,000 kilometer backlog.

asr-004718
04:09:54.380 --> 04:09:56.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Na-reconcile na ito through Geotag.

asr-004719
04:09:56.760 --> 04:09:56.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

asr-004720
04:09:56.860 --> 04:10:06.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang latest figures namin ngayon, yung completed is the same, pero yung remaining is, instead of 60, 52 na lang, no?

asr-004721
04:10:06.940 --> 04:10:07.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 52,000.

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04:10:07.840 --> 04:10:08.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 52,000.

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04:10:09.600 --> 04:10:10.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And?

asr-004724
04:10:10.160 --> 04:10:16.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And continues pa yung Geotagging, but soon to be completed, Mr. Chair.

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04:10:17.400 --> 04:10:17.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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04:10:17.960 --> 04:10:18.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

asr-004727
04:10:20.100 --> 04:10:26.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, what is the, what is the cost of the backlog?

asr-004728
04:10:26.860 --> 04:10:28.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: About a trillion?

asr-004729
04:10:30.500 --> 04:10:31.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tama ba yun?

asr-004730
04:10:35.080 --> 04:10:36.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 900 billion ba?

asr-004731
04:10:36.800 --> 04:10:36.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

asr-004732
04:10:40.940 --> 04:10:42.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi,

asr-004733
04:10:43.340 --> 04:10:56.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: our computation was for yung 2023 to 2028 National FMR Network.

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04:10:56.860 --> 04:11:10.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, plan, I, I recall we agreed that all Farm to Market Road projects must be part of the, uh, FMR Network Plan, di ba?

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04:11:11.100 --> 04:11:11.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Number one.

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04:11:12.100 --> 04:11:16.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi pwede yung pat, yung patse-patsya meron dito, meron doon, di ba?

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04:11:16.900 --> 04:11:25.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Um, Mr. Chair, 780 billion ang kulang to complete the Farm to Market Road at current prices, Mr. Chair.

asr-004738
04:11:25.640 --> 04:11:26.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, that's 780.

asr-004739
04:11:26.860 --> 04:11:32.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 885 billion o to cover for 52,000, no?

asr-004740
04:11:33.080 --> 04:11:33.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, backlog.

asr-004741
04:11:34.860 --> 04:11:42.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Um, so at the rate we're going, uh, at, uh, this year is how much?

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04:11:42.320 --> 04:11:43.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, 16.

asr-004743
04:11:44.040 --> 04:11:45.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 16 billion this year.

asr-004744
04:11:45.580 --> 04:11:49.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, mga 50 years bago.

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04:11:50.240 --> 04:11:51.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 49 years.

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04:11:51.300 --> 04:11:53.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 49 years to complete the backlog.

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04:11:55.100 --> 04:11:56.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, obviously, uh,

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04:11:56.860 --> 04:12:00.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh, it shouldn't be the case, no?

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04:12:00.160 --> 04:12:01.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But, uh, anyways, sige.

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04:12:01.920 --> 04:12:02.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what is your

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04:12:06.180 --> 04:12:09.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: strategic, uh,

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04:12:09.240 --> 04:12:09.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: plan?

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04:12:11.220 --> 04:12:13.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Uh, Mr. Chair, isang plano namin

asr-004755
04:12:13.260 --> 04:12:14.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is PPP

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04:12:14.120 --> 04:12:16.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng FMR.

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04:12:16.680 --> 04:12:18.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Uh, we're planning to have a

asr-004758
04:12:18.440 --> 04:12:21.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: PPP for 8 billion, meh?

asr-004759
04:12:21.580 --> 04:12:22.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For, for

asr-004760
04:12:22.660 --> 04:12:24.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 2027 ng

asr-004761
04:12:24.720 --> 04:12:26.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: FMR on top

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04:12:26.740 --> 04:12:34.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: of the 16 billion uh so if the bpp idea works the plan works then maybe sa 2028

asr-004763
04:12:38.420 --> 04:12:44.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yes um well yeah it's good you mentioned that because i if i understand correctly based on the

asr-004764
04:12:45.060 --> 04:12:51.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: current updates on the farm to market road program uh of the how many

asr-004765
04:12:51.620 --> 04:13:04.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh there are four modalities uh buffet dpwh ppp and lgu

asr-004766
04:13:06.420 --> 04:13:10.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But right now the bulk is still with public works. Tama?

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04:13:11.760 --> 04:13:23.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, as of the moment, mga 65% is with public works. The rest would be DA na yan. DA naman, we farm it out also to LGU, Mr. Chair.

asr-004768
04:13:24.040 --> 04:13:33.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. So DA has 162 projects, 5.35 billion. Public works has 1,204

asr-004769
04:13:33.460 --> 04:13:42.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: projects 22.3 billion and then the lgus so far have 252 projects which is 5.36 billion

asr-004770
04:13:42.020 --> 04:13:44.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But all these are still coordinated by the DA, right?

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04:13:44.240 --> 04:13:50.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang timon ho ay ang DA, Mr. Chair. Tapos yung sa public works figure, actually bumababa nang konti yan.

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04:13:51.620 --> 04:14:04.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mr chair okay and 23 billion has been released uh the remaining 9.6 billion are targeted for

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04:14:04.100 --> 04:14:11.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: submissions to dbm by november that is what your report is your update uh yes mr chair okay okay

asr-004774
04:14:11.300 --> 04:14:19.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So what you are saying is eventually wala pa, wala pang PPP dito sa...

asr-004775
04:14:19.100 --> 04:14:24.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Wala pa. I-correct ko lang yung sarili ko. Yung plano namin PPP is 80 billion, Mr. Chair.

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04:14:25.200 --> 04:14:34.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. And that 8 billion is of this, yung balance nung 33, yung balance after the 23, tama?

asr-004777
04:14:34.960 --> 04:14:42.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It is?no, it is after. Yung 80 billion na PPP is on top of the 33 billion, Mr. Chair.

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04:14:42.000 --> 04:14:42.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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04:14:42.900 --> 04:14:44.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But that is for 2027, sir.

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04:14:44.820 --> 04:14:49.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 2027. Okay. Okay. Sige. So, para klaro yun. Well, again,

asr-004779
04:14:51.620 --> 04:14:59.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi nga nila you don't need to reinvent the wheel diba a a example of the

asr-004780
04:15:00.000 --> 04:15:10.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of the backlog in government infrastructure was the school building program during the time of President Aquino.

asr-004781
04:15:12.580 --> 04:15:18.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: By the end of his term, they were building 400 classrooms a week.

asr-004782
04:15:19.760 --> 04:15:24.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the backlog was 66,000.

asr-004783
04:15:24.760 --> 04:15:32.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, at one point, they were averaging 400 classrooms a week.

asr-004784
04:15:32.220 --> 04:15:33.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the bulk of that was PPP.

asr-004785
04:15:37.040 --> 04:15:45.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And PPP, because you do have the bigger construction firms, the AAA,

asr-004786
04:15:45.760 --> 04:15:53.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and they had the muscle, they had the reach, they had the capacity,

asr-004787
04:15:54.760 --> 04:16:03.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and so they were given public bidding, the right amount of projects,

asr-004788
04:16:03.980 --> 04:16:07.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kesa sa iyong patsi-patsiba, di ba?

asr-004789
04:16:07.480 --> 04:16:18.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Merong 250 million dito, 10 million dito, walang economies of scale.

asr-004790
04:16:20.280 --> 04:16:23.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, your contractors will not participate,

asr-004791
04:16:24.240 --> 04:16:24.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or,

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04:16:24.760 --> 04:16:25.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: luge.

asr-004793
04:16:26.440 --> 04:16:31.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But if you do PPP with, you know, big ticket items,

asr-004794
04:16:31.940 --> 04:16:33.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then they have economies of scale.

asr-004795
04:16:34.980 --> 04:16:42.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In fact, sinama na nila yung mga, yung mga far, ano, ano dito?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Last mile.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: They were able to address even the last mile because they had economies of scale and they had volume.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And only the private sector can really do,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they can really do PPP in bulk, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we hope, we hope that moving forward, ganoon ang magiging direksyon natin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: anong isa?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung issue sa ating corn, kasi feeds, di ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung, yung MAV.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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04:17:24.040 --> 04:17:24.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Can you clarify this?

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04:17:25.040 --> 04:17:26.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because yung concern dito is,

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04:17:27.780 --> 04:17:32.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: although mas mataas yung ating corn stocks,

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04:17:32.400 --> 04:17:39.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: according to PSA, 47% increase compared to last year,

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04:17:41.640 --> 04:17:48.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is, why are we increasing, di ba, the import volume?

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04:17:50.700 --> 04:17:53.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, ang ini-increase po natin is yung MAV.

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04:17:53.420 --> 04:17:56.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Minimum access volume for lower tariff corn.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It is an anti-inflationary tactic para nga yung, or move para yung feed cost naman ng livestock natin,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hindi rin masyadong tumaas.

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04:18:07.020 --> 04:18:09.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, yun yung main purpose nun, Mr. Chair.

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04:18:10.200 --> 04:18:21.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How do we ensure, again, that our local farmers are not at the disadvantage as we bring in the necessary supply of corn?

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04:18:21.280 --> 04:18:23.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron tayong pwedeng sistema.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pardon na, yung MAV, yung MAV, hindi natin i-issue during harvest season, no, ng ating mga corn farmers,

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04:18:32.740 --> 04:18:36.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and it only will be utilized after harvest season, Mr. Chair.

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04:18:36.620 --> 04:18:37.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Major harvest season.

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04:18:39.740 --> 04:18:45.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The DA has the capacity to be able to manage the releases and the entry?

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04:18:45.560 --> 04:18:47.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, through an IRR, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah.

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04:18:53.420 --> 04:18:54.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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04:18:57.340 --> 04:19:03.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa PCC, Philippine Carabao Center,

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04:19:04.600 --> 04:19:11.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kumusta yung inyong obligation and disbursement nung binadjet natin sa gatas?

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04:19:12.720 --> 04:19:16.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung school feeding, milk feeding program sa schools?

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04:19:16.960 --> 04:19:18.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi tama ba ito?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 35%.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Your target is supposed to be 8 million milk packs, but you only delivered 2.8 million.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then of the 93 school divisions, only 6 had completed delivery.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 45 SDOs had not yet awarded a contract.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah, Mr. Chair, we will ask Yusek for livestock to answer.

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04:19:58.920 --> 04:20:01.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, go ahead, Yusek Palabrica.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah, doon na sa PCC, head na lang, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nandito pala.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ma'am, go ahead, ma'am.

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04:20:17.340 --> 04:20:21.340
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Honorable Chair, our obligation has increased.

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04:20:21.340 --> 04:20:22.020
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Increased?

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04:20:22.540 --> 04:20:23.340
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Already?

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Already by 80.04%.

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04:20:28.120 --> 04:20:31.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Again, again, sorry.

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04:20:33.420 --> 04:20:37.160
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Ah, it has increased already at 80%.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 80%?

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Yes.

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04:20:39.000 --> 04:20:41.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: From, ah, kasi this is as of September?

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Opo.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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04:20:44.120 --> 04:20:47.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bakit pagdaganong parating na yung budget hearing, biglang...

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04:20:47.980 --> 04:20:52.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah, Mr. Chair, nakakatulong ang budget hearing.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Salamat sa tulong ninyo.

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PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Honorable Chair, una po, siyempre, anticipated po.

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04:20:59.300 --> 04:21:07.000
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: At the same time, ah, we all rely to the, ah, instructions also of the SDOs.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

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04:21:08.020 --> 04:21:13.160
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Ah, sila din po kasi ang magsasabi kung kailan po mag-i-implement.

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04:21:14.280 --> 04:21:17.940
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: So, ah, ganun po yung status.

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04:21:18.720 --> 04:21:22.940
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: And, ah, looking forward po until, ah,

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04:21:23.340 --> 04:21:29.160
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: April po ang implementation ng, ng milk feeding program po natin this year.

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04:21:29.800 --> 04:21:33.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. Pero, binawasan yung inyong budget for...

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04:21:33.540 --> 04:21:33.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Opo.

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04:21:34.100 --> 04:21:40.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Oh, how will that affect the, yung, ah, industry, yung dairy?

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04:21:41.120 --> 04:21:52.560
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Ah, it will, it will, it is reduced at 449, ah, from 100, ah, from 1.12 billion.

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04:21:53.340 --> 04:21:58.140
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: So, kalahati, less than kalahati po ang binigay.

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04:21:58.380 --> 04:21:58.820
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: One-third.

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04:21:58.980 --> 04:22:08.040
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Ah, definitely, ah, the, the farming families or farming carabao raisers and cooperatives will be affected.

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04:22:08.040 --> 04:22:12.040
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Ah, mababawasan po ng...

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04:22:13.460 --> 04:22:16.240
PCC Executive Director Liza G. Batad: Okay, Secretary will answer.

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04:22:16.240 --> 04:22:16.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May I answer that, Mr. Chair?

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04:22:16.960 --> 04:22:18.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, please. Go ahead, sir.

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04:22:18.080 --> 04:22:23.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah, yan yung binabanggit kong problema dun sa IDECA na 20 billion.

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04:22:23.340 --> 04:22:28.720
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya nabawasan yung mga major programs nila dahil nga meron na kami 20 billion, eh.

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04:22:29.140 --> 04:22:30.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then, hindi nga namin magagamit ito.

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04:22:30.940 --> 04:22:34.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, parang sa amin nga tanggalin ito at ibalik lang dati ito.

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04:22:34.200 --> 04:22:39.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then, ah, so that tuloy-tuloy lang ang programa ng livestock group, Mr. Chair.

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04:22:39.640 --> 04:22:45.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sorry, ah, hindi siya magagamit dahil, forgive my, you know, sa dami nung...

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04:22:46.060 --> 04:22:47.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi hindi pa siya na...

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04:22:48.080 --> 04:22:51.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa, hindi na. For the restructuring, ah, we have to hire more people.

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04:22:51.800 --> 04:22:53.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung organizational chart.

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04:22:53.000 --> 04:22:54.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Plantilla, kailangan maset.

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04:22:55.040 --> 04:22:58.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And on timelines namin, it has to go to, ah, civil service.

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04:22:58.860 --> 04:23:00.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It has to go through DBM.

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04:23:00.300 --> 04:23:02.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It has to go through other...

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04:23:02.100 --> 04:23:03.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May back and forth pa yan.

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04:23:03.480 --> 04:23:08.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, November next year pa namin magagamit yung 20 billion na IDECA.

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04:23:08.720 --> 04:23:08.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Okay.

asr-004891
04:23:09.120 --> 04:23:15.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, we, that's the formal request was made that, ah, we forego of the 20 billion of the IDECA

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04:23:15.860 --> 04:23:21.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and revert back to our original NEP na wala yung IDECA.

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04:23:22.000 --> 04:23:22.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Understood. Understood.

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04:23:23.000 --> 04:23:30.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ibig sabihin, ah, kung dalawang buwan na lang sa January, sa 2027 magagamit, what's the point?

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04:23:31.080 --> 04:23:31.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Diba?

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04:23:32.660 --> 04:23:35.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. Okay. We will note that.

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04:23:42.540 --> 04:23:43.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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04:23:43.160 --> 04:23:43.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, sir.

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04:23:49.420 --> 04:23:51.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Teka, can I have a...

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04:23:53.000 --> 04:23:54.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ah, bathroom break.

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04:23:55.740 --> 04:24:05.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we'll have a five minute, ah, and for everyone, we will have a five minute, ah, liquidity, ah, break.

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04:40:46.200 --> 04:41:13.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: [unclear] Thank you very much.

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04:41:13.500 --> 04:41:26.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Report on 634,000 pesos worth of unsafe meat seized in Bulacan market. This is an article by ABS-CBN, October 16.

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04:41:27.140 --> 04:41:31.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So this was less than two weeks ago.

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04:41:31.420 --> 04:41:53.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Less than two weeks ago, government inspectors see some three tons of mishandled meat products at the Malolos Public Market, NMIS, DA, Dr. Jude Padasas, the enforcement head of NMIS, said the sweep was part of an ongoing Nation One campaign.

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04:41:53.740 --> 04:42:00.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ano na ang status nito? Head? Okay.

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04:42:00.520 --> 04:42:02.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, nandito yung head ng NMIS.

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04:42:02.820 --> 04:42:08.900
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Mr. Chair, I'm Dr. Hernando Lantoco, IC, Executive Director ng NMIS.

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04:42:09.080 --> 04:42:09.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, go ahead.

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04:42:09.960 --> 04:42:15.760
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Actually, isa ka sa mga top priority program ko sa ngayon ay palakasin yung enforcement.

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04:42:16.840 --> 04:42:22.300
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: At dahil nga sa amin yung mga reported na mga mishandled doon sa palengke.

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04:42:22.660 --> 04:42:23.300
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: So, nagkasapit.

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04:42:23.740 --> 04:42:30.600
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Pagka po tayo ng operation, it so happen na video parang meetip.

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04:42:31.300 --> 04:42:34.600
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Kaya kukunti lang yung nadali namin na prosent.

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04:42:34.720 --> 04:42:43.460
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Pero nakakumpis ka tayo ng mga almost two tons na mga galantina.

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04:42:44.520 --> 04:42:48.960
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Manok po yan na hindi po nagkaroon ng complete inspection.

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04:42:49.360 --> 04:42:53.180
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: So, pagka po hindi po siya nag-undergo ng complete inspection,

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04:42:53.740 --> 04:42:55.460
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: that is considered hot meat po.

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04:42:57.660 --> 04:43:00.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito ay sinampahan na ng reklamo, tama ba?

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04:43:01.020 --> 04:43:05.400
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Sa ngayon po ay ito po ay dahil unang huli lang po ito.

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04:43:05.400 --> 04:43:11.900
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Gusto rin natin maturuan na maging legal yung mga maliliit na nagtitinda.

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04:43:12.740 --> 04:43:16.380
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: So, sa ngayon po ay confiscation lang muna na ang ginawa po natin, Mr. Chair.

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04:43:17.820 --> 04:43:21.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. At anong rendering yan?

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04:43:21.580 --> 04:43:23.000
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Ito po ay dinadala natin.

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04:43:23.740 --> 04:43:26.420
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Mga recognized na rendering facilities.

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04:43:27.060 --> 04:43:28.760
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: At supervised po ito.

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04:43:29.540 --> 04:43:34.500
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: From the time na pumasok hanggang sa makomplete po yung pag-render po nito.

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04:43:34.760 --> 04:43:36.700
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Documented po lahat ito, Mr. Chair.

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04:43:40.700 --> 04:43:47.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, at yung balita naman doon sa binibenta ng manok.

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04:43:49.420 --> 04:43:51.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Binibenta nung mga nag-rerender.

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04:43:53.740 --> 04:43:58.660
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Actually po, meron pong ganyang bumabalita.

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04:43:58.660 --> 04:44:07.540
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Pero, ang sabi ko po ay, baka ito po yung nasabi kanina tungkol doon sa operation po doon sa Saklag.

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04:44:08.340 --> 04:44:12.040
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Pero wala po, hindi po nakasama rito ang NMIS operation.

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04:44:13.060 --> 04:44:18.760
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Ipinagbigay alam lang po sa amin yung operation kasi nalamang po nila na bago i-dispose,

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04:44:18.860 --> 04:44:21.140
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: kinakailangan may certification from NMIS.

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04:44:21.740 --> 04:44:22.900
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: Pero noong nakaraalinggo,

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04:44:23.740 --> 04:44:30.880
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: meron pong dumating na apat na transport vehicle sa compound po ng NMIS

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04:44:30.880 --> 04:44:35.800
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: para i-certify po namin na yun ay unfit for human consumption.

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04:44:36.420 --> 04:44:38.920
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: And then, dila po ito sa, kung di po ko nagkakamali,

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04:44:38.920 --> 04:44:52.920
NMIS OIC Executive Director Dr. Fernando N. Lontoc: sa 13 rendering facilities at doon po na supervised po natin yung apat na deliver ban na puno ng toad na mga chicken.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. Balikan ko lang yung sa rendering.

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04:45:00.000 --> 04:45:03.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, napirmahan na yung Memorandum of Agreement.

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04:45:06.040 --> 04:45:12.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: First Border Patrol dapat for agri-products should be turned over to the DA.

asr-004985
04:45:14.000 --> 04:45:18.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But right now, you don't have destruction rendering facilities.

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04:45:19.240 --> 04:45:26.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dapat part of the bio yung first border control yun at dapat kasama dun sa biosafety.

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04:45:26.820 --> 04:45:35.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But it looks like yung 1 billion, hindi pa sa rendering yun, ano?

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04:45:36.220 --> 04:45:43.360
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: Hindi pa po sapat yung budget for the five rendering sites and biosafe sites.

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04:45:43.600 --> 04:45:46.340
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: So, the priority was biosafe site ho muna.

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04:45:47.340 --> 04:45:54.760
DA Undersecretary for Inspectorate and Enforcement Carlos C. Carag: And then we can certify some rendering facilities in areas where we have major seaports.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, okay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we will continue to monitor that until finally we will have your facilities necessary to do your job.

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04:46:07.420 --> 04:46:19.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The other concern that I raised in the onion smuggling, onion heating in Nueva Ecija was the,

asr-004994
04:46:20.580 --> 04:46:22.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and this is my last point before I turn over.

asr-004995
04:46:22.480 --> 04:46:25.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It's the...

asr-004996
04:46:26.820 --> 04:46:34.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Memorandum of Agreement that I asked the DA to sign with the PSA.

asr-004997
04:46:35.760 --> 04:46:45.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The reason being that in that hearing in Nueva Ecija on the onions, the over-importation of onions,

asr-004998
04:46:45.400 --> 04:46:54.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it was established that the PSA data is different from the Bureau of Plant Data.

asr-004999
04:46:55.680 --> 04:46:56.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Lumalabas sa BP.

asr-005000
04:46:56.820 --> 04:47:10.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kulang ng 62,000 metric tons yung kanilang data in terms of production.

asr-005001
04:47:12.100 --> 04:47:16.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mas marami ng 62,000 metric tons ang PSA.

asr-005002
04:47:17.500 --> 04:47:25.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, dahil dun, kulang ang supply according to DA, kaya nag-import.

asr-005003
04:47:25.320 --> 04:47:26.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Naglabas ng...

asr-005004
04:47:26.820 --> 04:47:30.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang SPC, para makapasok itong onions.

asr-005005
04:47:30.260 --> 04:47:39.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang problema, pumasok ng after or during harvest season na, for some reason.

asr-005006
04:47:40.500 --> 04:47:48.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, to fix that problem, I asked, and that a memorandum of agreement be entered into, right?

asr-005007
04:47:48.700 --> 04:47:49.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And this is it.

asr-005008
04:47:50.540 --> 04:47:53.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang problema nyo rito, hindi pa pirmado si...

asr-005009
04:47:53.220 --> 04:47:55.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yusek Bayate.

asr-005010
04:47:55.540 --> 04:47:56.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ma'am, hindi pa kayo pumipirmado.

asr-005011
04:47:56.820 --> 04:47:57.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi pa kayo pumipirma.

asr-005012
04:47:58.740 --> 04:47:59.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Wala rito eh.

asr-005013
04:48:01.320 --> 04:48:02.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Baka...

asr-005014
04:48:02.080 --> 04:48:06.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At yung National Corn, nasaan si Program Director Wagas?

asr-005015
04:48:07.460 --> 04:48:14.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sabi ko kasi sa inyo, yung budget ninyo ay nakasalalay dito sa pag-draft nito.

asr-005016
04:48:15.820 --> 04:48:22.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Eh, yan yung beauty ng check and balance, di ba, na ginagawa natin.

asr-005017
04:48:22.100 --> 04:48:26.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, kung maaaring pirmahan ninyo bago mag-plenary para kompleto na ito,

asr-005018
04:48:26.820 --> 04:48:27.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: no?

asr-005019
04:48:28.300 --> 04:48:31.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pati si Mr. Wagas, andito ba yung project director?

asr-005020
04:48:32.780 --> 04:48:34.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, pirmahan na ninyo.

asr-005021
04:48:35.440 --> 04:48:38.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nauna na magpumirma si Secretary Kiko eh.

asr-005022
04:48:38.800 --> 04:48:38.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ha?

asr-005023
04:48:39.400 --> 04:48:41.380
DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate: Hindi dumating sa office ko, ano eh.

asr-005024
04:48:44.180 --> 04:48:45.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dapat may group chat kayo.

asr-005025
04:48:48.820 --> 04:48:50.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But anyway, please, no?

asr-005026
04:48:51.760 --> 04:48:52.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If...

asr-005027
04:48:52.760 --> 04:48:54.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Again, before plenary, ha?

asr-005028
04:48:56.820 --> 04:48:58.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then...

asr-005029
04:48:58.700 --> 04:49:05.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We can now...

asr-005030
04:49:05.800 --> 04:49:08.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, so, nasaan si Mr. Wagas?

asr-005031
04:49:09.800 --> 04:49:10.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, hindi.

asr-005032
04:49:11.300 --> 04:49:13.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pakisagot na lang, napipirmahan ninyo, tama?

asr-005033
04:49:14.660 --> 04:49:16.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Para magkaroon ng...

asr-005034
04:49:16.040 --> 04:49:23.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Para ang PSA data at ang DA data on our production, iisa.

asr-005035
04:49:23.640 --> 04:49:26.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi yung mas marami yung...

asr-005036
04:49:26.820 --> 04:49:36.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya, dahil kulang mag-import.

asr-005037
04:49:36.800 --> 04:49:37.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

asr-005038
04:49:39.800 --> 04:49:41.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, where is Mr. Wagas?

asr-005039
04:49:41.600 --> 04:49:41.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

asr-005040
04:49:43.860 --> 04:49:47.940
DA National Corn Program Director Abel F. Wagas: Your Honor, sir, pipirmahan po namin.

asr-005041
04:49:48.160 --> 04:49:48.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you.

asr-005042
04:49:49.020 --> 04:49:50.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun lang ang kailangan ko marinig sa inyo.

asr-005043
04:49:51.460 --> 04:49:55.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: USEC, Bayate, sabi nyo na, pirmahan na ninyo.

asr-005044
04:49:56.180 --> 04:49:56.800
DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate: It's set.

asr-005045
04:49:56.800 --> 04:50:00.460
DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate: It only stayed in my office for one day.

asr-005046
04:50:00.560 --> 04:50:01.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ba't hindi pa nakapirma rito?

asr-005047
04:50:02.120 --> 04:50:02.800
DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate: I don't know.

asr-005048
04:50:03.080 --> 04:50:05.980
DA Undersecretary Drusila Esther E. Bayate: Basta, I make it a point na ganyan po yung senator.

asr-005049
04:50:06.300 --> 04:50:08.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, if you've signed it, thank you.

asr-005050
04:50:08.900 --> 04:50:10.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito lang ang binigay ng PSA sa amin.

asr-005051
04:50:11.760 --> 04:50:16.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But since you've signed it and he will sign it, Mr. Wagas will sign it.

asr-005052
04:50:16.680 --> 04:50:17.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we're good.

asr-005053
04:50:19.200 --> 04:50:20.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we're good.

asr-005054
04:50:20.640 --> 04:50:22.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Secretary, for this.

asr-005055
04:50:22.400 --> 04:50:26.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now, we can ensure that the data is rationalized.

asr-005056
04:50:26.800 --> 04:50:31.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The information is iisa.

asr-005057
04:50:31.820 --> 04:50:37.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang hirap nung dalawang iisa gobyerno, dalawa datos, di ba?

asr-005058
04:50:38.600 --> 04:50:40.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: On the matter of supply.

asr-005059
04:50:40.860 --> 04:50:41.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Huwag naman, di ba?

asr-005060
04:50:42.740 --> 04:50:44.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Para ma-reconcile natin.

asr-005061
04:50:44.680 --> 04:50:44.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

asr-005062
04:50:45.440 --> 04:50:48.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we thank the good Secretary for this.

asr-005063
04:50:49.440 --> 04:50:53.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And now, I turn the floor to the next round of Senator Aimee.

asr-005064
04:50:53.580 --> 04:50:54.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ma'am, you have the floor.

asr-005065
04:50:54.480 --> 04:50:54.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

asr-005066
04:50:54.800 --> 04:50:55.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You have 10 minutes.

asr-005067
04:50:55.600 --> 04:50:56.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Chair.

asr-005068
04:50:56.120 --> 04:50:56.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Or even more.

asr-005069
04:50:56.840 --> 04:50:58.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because you're the only one left.

asr-005070
04:50:59.660 --> 04:51:00.960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mag-duduwet tayo.

asr-005071
04:51:01.220 --> 04:51:01.400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Go ahead.

asr-005072
04:51:01.400 --> 04:51:05.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ako maraming salamat, Mr. Chair at Senator Kiko.

asr-005073
04:51:05.780 --> 04:51:08.640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Following up dun sa tanong ninyo tungkol sa sibuyas,

asr-005074
04:51:08.640 --> 04:51:15.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: magtatanong nang ako dito sa pinakasikat sa onion and garlic, yung Lea Cruz.

asr-005075
04:51:16.620 --> 04:51:18.860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Balibalita, namamayagpag na ulit.

asr-005076
04:51:18.980 --> 04:51:25.640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Samantalang meron siyang record-breaking fine ng 1.76 billion na administrative

asr-005077
04:51:25.640 --> 04:51:26.640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: dyan sa...

asr-005078
04:51:26.800 --> 04:51:29.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: competition, commission, ano?

asr-005079
04:51:30.220 --> 04:51:30.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Paano ba yun?

asr-005080
04:51:31.060 --> 04:51:36.640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tapos, maliban dyan, dapat may criminal charges pa rin at sandigan ba yan?

asr-005081
04:51:37.000 --> 04:51:40.420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero sa kabila ng lahat na yan, mga kaso-kasong yan,

asr-005082
04:51:41.400 --> 04:51:46.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: mainit ang balita na andyan na naman siya sa sibuyas at bawang.

asr-005083
04:51:46.740 --> 04:51:53.440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano po ang update natin tungkol sa Lea Cruz at yung mga grupo ng allium na yan?

asr-005084
04:51:53.880 --> 04:51:56.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: First of all, Mr. Chair, hindi ko kilala yan.

asr-005085
04:51:56.520 --> 04:52:04.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Si Lea Cruz, narinig ko lang din sa dyaryo nung isang araw and I'm surprised na sa hatol sa kanya

asr-005086
04:52:04.120 --> 04:52:09.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and happy in a sense dahil nga at least justice will be served.

asr-005087
04:52:09.440 --> 04:52:15.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Well, very happy po kami kasi sa onion and garlic producers, notorious po ito.

asr-005088
04:52:15.940 --> 04:52:19.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya nga lang narinig namin na nangangalakal pa rin.

asr-005089
04:52:19.940 --> 04:52:26.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So ngayon, Mr. Chair, as far as red onion is concerned, wala tayong importasyon ng red onion.

asr-005090
04:52:26.520 --> 04:52:30.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For this year and hopefully, baka next year, halos wala rin.

asr-005091
04:52:30.760 --> 04:52:32.520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sa puti at sa bawang.

asr-005092
04:52:32.520 --> 04:52:40.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa puti, ngayon lang tayo nag-umpisa ng white onion importasyon and very limited quantity lang ho yan.

asr-005093
04:52:41.140 --> 04:52:45.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It is distributed equally among the most people who applied.

asr-005094
04:52:46.100 --> 04:52:52.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And I have not heard of Lea Cruz.

asr-005095
04:52:53.280 --> 04:52:56.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But kung yan ho ang impormasyon nyo, I will investigate.

asr-005096
04:52:56.520 --> 04:52:58.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I will investigate and deeper ang nakikinig naman yung enforcement natin.

asr-005097
04:52:58.700 --> 04:53:06.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Papatulong lang po kami sa DA na pursigihin hindi lang yung napakalaking fine na pinapalakpakang po namin,

asr-005098
04:53:06.220 --> 04:53:15.680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na 1.76 billion, kundi pati na rin yung criminal charges na dapat pursigihin sa DOJ at sa Sandigan.

asr-005099
04:53:16.220 --> 04:53:25.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah, yes. Sige ho. I will try to pursue it with Secretary Vida and the others para nga mahuli ka agad at magbayad siya ka agad.

asr-005100
04:53:25.540 --> 04:53:26.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you very much.

asr-005101
04:53:26.520 --> 04:53:28.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you very much po. Malit lang yan sa kanya.

asr-005102
04:53:28.820 --> 04:53:40.660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ngayon sa post-harvest, sangayon po kami sa sinasabi ninyo na yung NIA sana tumutok doon sa big ticket items like the dams, the impoundment and so on.

asr-005103
04:53:41.020 --> 04:53:44.480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sangayon rin kami doon sa post-harvest na sinasabi po ninyo.

asr-005104
04:53:44.920 --> 04:53:48.300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero ang kasabihan, put your money where your mouth is.

asr-005105
04:53:48.300 --> 04:53:56.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pag tinignan yung budget ng DA, hindi maliwanag kung saan yung post-harvest ang tanging nanging ibabaw.

asr-005106
04:53:56.520 --> 04:54:02.280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eh yung figure na napakaliit na nasa BIFAR, 516 million lamang.

asr-005107
04:54:02.800 --> 04:54:13.580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero nabanggit ninyo na nagkakaroon na tayo ng mga cold storage na magaganda, katulad sa tagig, tapos may logistics chain, may mga distribution and marketing effort.

asr-005108
04:54:14.660 --> 04:54:19.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Magkano ba talaga ang ginagastos ng DA para sa post-harvest? Para sa kaalaman lang namin.

asr-005109
04:54:23.900 --> 04:54:24.420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ah...

asr-005110
04:54:24.420 --> 04:54:26.400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi meron rin banggit dito na...

asr-005111
04:54:26.520 --> 04:54:30.860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Naulit yata ni Secretary yung mechanical dryer, 380 pieces.

asr-005112
04:54:31.540 --> 04:54:35.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At natuwa naman kami no, nabalitaan namin sa diaryo.

asr-005113
04:54:39.480 --> 04:54:43.960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Apakaliit eh, parang hindi siya priority pag tinignan yung budget.

asr-005114
04:54:43.960 --> 04:54:50.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ah yung sa, ah Mr. Chair, yung sa post-harvest natin, may 4.5 billion ano?

asr-005115
04:54:51.360 --> 04:54:53.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi pa kasama yun sa RCEF o how much?

asr-005116
04:54:53.620 --> 04:54:56.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Where is the 4.5 billion?

asr-005117
04:54:56.520 --> 04:54:59.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Located po? Under what category?

asr-005118
04:54:59.960 --> 04:55:02.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa mga banner programs po yan, Mr. Chair.

asr-005119
04:55:02.960 --> 04:55:03.260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sa alin?

asr-005120
04:55:03.300 --> 04:55:07.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kalat-kalat sa banner programs like National Rice Program, Coconut.

asr-005121
04:55:08.180 --> 04:55:11.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: May RCEF, may National Rice Program.

asr-005122
04:55:11.880 --> 04:55:13.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Corn Program, Madam Chair.

asr-005123
04:55:14.380 --> 04:55:24.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, may we inquire lamang kung maari, bigyan lang kami ng listahan para maipakita na tinututukan naman yung post-harvest dahil yun nga ang daing ng napakarami.

asr-005124
04:55:24.740 --> 04:55:25.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 23% na...

asr-005125
04:55:26.520 --> 04:55:34.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ngayon, medyo mas maganda ang numero, sinasabing 16 to 17, pero parang hindi pa rin ramdam, ano?

asr-005126
04:55:34.300 --> 04:55:38.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang laki nun kung tutuusin para sa problema natin sa bigas.

asr-005127
04:55:38.480 --> 04:55:41.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, we're really keen on following that up.

asr-005128
04:55:41.500 --> 04:55:45.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair, we will supply all the data and kung anong ginagawa.

asr-005129
04:55:46.200 --> 04:55:51.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But sa totoo lang, kulang din ang pondo. We need more post-harvest facilities, Mr. Chair.

asr-005130
04:55:51.840 --> 04:55:55.960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, I only had a question.

asr-005131
04:55:56.520 --> 04:56:00.780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I also had a question with regard to NTA, yung tobacco.

asr-005132
04:56:01.680 --> 04:56:12.760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The tobacco fund had 11... had 116 billion at the end of 2025 with the projected collections of 13 billion.

asr-005133
04:56:13.420 --> 04:56:19.340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And yet, its proposed expenditure is only 699 million.

asr-005134
04:56:19.840 --> 04:56:20.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Napakaliit.

asr-005135
04:56:20.600 --> 04:56:24.820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kung tutuusin, ihahambing mo sa billion-billion na kinikita.

asr-005136
04:56:25.640 --> 04:56:26.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eh...

asr-005137
04:56:26.360 --> 04:56:32.020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: How much of that reported balance is actually available and legally usable?

asr-005138
04:56:32.440 --> 04:56:37.640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And what prevents a larger allocation for eligible tobacco farmer assistance?

asr-005139
04:56:37.940 --> 04:56:41.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Bakit napapako sa wala pang 700 million?

asr-005140
04:56:42.960 --> 04:56:44.280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Nagtataka lang ako.

asr-005141
04:56:44.800 --> 04:56:50.180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung allocation sa budget ninyo, 143 million.

asr-005142
04:56:50.660 --> 04:56:53.440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Personal services, ganon din.

asr-005143
04:56:54.040 --> 04:56:55.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 143 million halos.

asr-005144
04:56:56.360 --> 04:57:01.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, ibig sabihin, ang farmer assistance na ibibigay, eh nasa 200 million na lang.

asr-005145
04:57:03.440 --> 04:57:04.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Nakakatawa po eh.

asr-005146
04:57:04.480 --> 04:57:13.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Why is the entire net increase in the NTA budget to be dedicated solely to higher personnel costs?

asr-005147
04:57:13.880 --> 04:57:19.840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Magtataas ba silang lahat ng sweldo rather than expansion of direct farmer assistance?

asr-005148
04:57:19.840 --> 04:57:21.160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, that's two questions.

asr-005149
04:57:21.320 --> 04:57:26.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: How much money talaga yung NTA samantalang laki-laki ng levy?

asr-005150
04:57:26.360 --> 04:57:32.340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At ikalawa, bakit naman puro personal na lang ang bibigyan at hindi yung mismong farmer?

asr-005151
04:57:33.120 --> 04:57:37.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Madam, Mr. Chair, we'll ask NTA head to explain.

asr-005152
04:57:40.000 --> 04:57:41.500
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Good afternoon po, Madam Chair.

asr-005153
04:57:41.620 --> 04:57:44.640
NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yung increase po na binigay is for...

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Sa PS po napuntayin, dun po sa nung in-implement yung CPCS2.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano yun? Sorry, sorry. Naa-alpha-benzupa ko.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sa...

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Sa...

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Nung in-implement po yung CPCS2, yung conference, ano?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Increase ng sahod po across the board ng lahat ng government agencies, mga DOCC po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: SSL? SSL? O alin?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: CPCS po yung tawag.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pakibasa kung alin yun? Kasi marami po increase ng sahod.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero yung pinaka-basic standard salarization.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yun po yung increase ng sahod po ng government.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yung standardization po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Salary standardization.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mga DOCC po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pasensya, SSL ang pangalan nun? Iba yung sinasabi po ninyo?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Compensation...

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Ano?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Compensation and position classification po. System po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: So kaya nagtaasa ng sweldo. Pero halos naubos naman yung budget ninyo sa sweldo lamang.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano na lang ang ibibigay sa farmer?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Hindi, ma'am. Doon lang po napunta yung increase na nadagdag. Pero regularly po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: So you're saying that this is an increase mandated by law?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yes, po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sure ka?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yes, ma'am.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: O sige, bigay na lang ninyo yan sa amin. Kasi parang ang hirap i-justify.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pag umabot kami sa plenaryo, e magtatakal lahat.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: At tinatanong talaga ito ng mga Ilocano kung bakit itong nangyari sa sweldo lang binigay lahat ng increase.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: At wala sila.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: At wala sila nagdagdag.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Ma'am, continuous naman po yung proposal namin for additional.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Coming from po nga doon sana sa excise tax.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi kinakailangan ni Paliwanag,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: why do you require as basis for making half of the production assistance repayable at the harvest?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: The safeguards against additional farmer indebtedness and the additional eligible support that can be financed from the tobacco fund.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Paianoin nyo talaga po?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Bakit yung base ninyo?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: half of the production

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: at repayable at harvest.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano yung basehan ninyo to give assistance?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi nagmumukhang very

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: random and

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: whimsical

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: and capricious. Ika nga

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa batas.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano ba yung basehan for giving

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: farmer assistance?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Who's eligible

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: for support? Hindi po namin naintindihan eh.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi kung sino-sinong

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: binibigyan, yung iba hindi bibigyan.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang sabi nila kasi,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: half of production assistance

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: repayable at harvest, ganun ba yun?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pwede ba ipaliwanag

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: ninyo sa amin kung sinong

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: bibigyan at sinong walang karapatang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: bibigyan?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Priority po namin bibigyan, ma'am.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yung mga farmers namin under

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: sa contract growing system po.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: So nagbibigay po kami ng

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: farm inputs, pati technology.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sino-sino ang nasa contract growing

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: system ninyo para maalaman po namin?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Meron kayong listahan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Or pwede ninyo ipaliwanag?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sino-sino? Aling probinsya?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Lahat, ma'am. Region 1,

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Region 2,

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: sa hanggang Carpo.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Parang wala akong

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: masyadong nababalitaan eh. Kaya gusto

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: ko maalaman saan para matumbok

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: natin kung sino nga talaga ang nabibigyan.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: We can provide a list, ma'am,

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: kung sino po yung mga kasama sa

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: contract growing system namin.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano yung basehan ng additional

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: farmer indebtedness, yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: yun nga, yung mga eligibility.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi ang dami-daming nagtatanong,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: ba't ganun?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: The other question

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: is really a question of the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Treasury. Maybe, Secretary, you can

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: inquire po. Kasi yung balanseng

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: tinakda ng ating Treasury,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung tobacco fund, dapat

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: 116B

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: noong 2025. Tapos

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05:01:54.960 --> 05:01:56.760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa 2027,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: 13 billion na naman.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eh hindi naman nararamdaman yan.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: At hindi naman namin nakikita.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya, asan ba

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: napunta yung pagkarami-raming

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: billion-billion na yan?

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Ma'am, hindi rin po kasi na

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: wala kaming access po, ma'am.

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NTA Administrator and CEO Belinda Sarmiento-Sanchez: Yes. Opo. Nasa DBM po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Secretary, would you have any insight

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: into this enormous amount that doesn't

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: seem to make it to the farms?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, honestly, I

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: don't. But with

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05:02:25.140 --> 05:02:27.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: your inquiry now and your

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05:02:27.040 --> 05:02:29.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I will actually, I was just a little bit afraid.

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05:02:29.240 --> 05:02:30.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Discussing with my USEC for operations.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We'll go a deep dive into it and

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05:02:32.960 --> 05:02:34.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: get to the bottom of things.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Malaking bagay yan. Kasi kung ganyang kalalaki

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: yan, Secretary, yung problema

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: natin sa post-harvest,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: eh at least masasagot na yan

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa Northern Luzon. At

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: hundreds of billions po

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang pinag-uusapan. Yun na yung budget

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: ninyo. And perhaps

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: in that same inquiry, we can

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: also ask what is actually

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: available now in cash

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: and legally,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: legally usable para

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: maipigay na. At yun nga,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: tutukan na nga yung post-harvest and

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: irrigation. Hindi po ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, Madam

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Senator,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: salamat sa iyong direction

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and we will take your

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lead and follow through.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Puling hirit na lang po sa tabako

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: kasi namong problema

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: kami, baka maitanong na rin sa

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: DOF kung bakit

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: sinasama sa provincial,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: LGU, municipal,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: income, yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: excise taxes share.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Samantalang tulad nga nung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: sinabi ni Ma'am Sanchez,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: hindi naman rinirelease.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eh bakit nilalagay sa provincial

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: income or kaya sa municipal

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: income, sa city income,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: sinasama nila sa income.

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05:03:47.640 --> 05:03:49.280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eh hindi naman binibigay. Bakit

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: nasa income? Pwedeng tanungin

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: na rin yun. Kasi hindi naman siya income.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: It's not regular. It's not

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: complete. The releases are

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: so sporadic. So this is

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: what we would like to ask as well.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, I guess

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I've instructed my COS

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to make sure that we have something

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to give you a report

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: before the plenary and kung ano man

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang aming proposals.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you very much.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You still have time.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You still have three minutes. Go ahead.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, I think

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: the reduction

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: although welcomed by our

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: financial managers of the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: DA's proposed budget for 2027

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: is causing some level

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: of alarm among our agricultural

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: communities. Given

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: that we are going to

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: be challenged by an extreme

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: El Nino situation.

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05:04:51.880 --> 05:04:53.260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Maari bang malaman kung alin

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung mga specific programs

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: and projects na talagang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: pinakamabigat ang tama?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Saan ba talagang na-reduce ng todo-todo

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: para walang gulatan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Will this affect

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: food security

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: given the anticipated shortages?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Will this hit farmers'

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: income given the inflation

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: that's officially at 7% already?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yun ang kinatatakutan

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng lahat.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang isang malaking bawas sa amin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa banner program sa RISE din.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That's why we are requesting

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for an additional 8 billion.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sa livestock naman,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung maayos naman,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it will go back to dati

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: which would be okay.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: So right now,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: price po and livestock

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: that got hit.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa farm-to-market na reduction

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na 17 billion, malaki din yun.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: The farm-to-market, the FMR,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: is that, are you referring to the

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: PIP?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Are you referring to the RDP?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Or iba pa yun?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's your other regular program?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Madam.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's the regular DA?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yun sa livestock,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung kanina nabanggit ko,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung maayos yun dahil nabawasan yung budget.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But because of IDCA,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but if mababalik naman yung regular budget namin

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: through the help of the Senate,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: then I think that will be okay na.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In crop insurance,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yun malaking bagay binawas.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ay naku, kailangan na kailangan yun.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Lalo na next year.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Next year, patay tayo dyan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, so kung matulungan ho kami tungkol dyan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Of course, meron pa kami kulang

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa funding ng

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: obligational

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: authority,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: PRDP na 1 billion.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Alin ho yun?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Alin yun?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Philippine Rural Development Project

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: based on the funding schedules

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ah, yung PRDP?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: PRDP na yan?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, PRDP na yan.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: PRDP counterpart?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, yes.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Binawasan yung counterpart natin?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yeah, na 700 million.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, my question also there,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: that's been a long-standing project

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: and I'm just wondering,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: have we renegotiated the terms of that loan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's a loan, di ba?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pa-expire na siya, patapos na siya.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: By 2028, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, it's a very successful project.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Actually, oversubscribed tayo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, kulang, we're requesting

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the World Bank for an additional

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: extension, sana dahil.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: From 2028.

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05:07:42.820 --> 05:07:43.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, I see.

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05:07:45.060 --> 05:07:46.840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At saka, natagalan yan eh.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Dati, dati ang tawag po namin dyan,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: puro review

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: daily project.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: But, I think now it's much, much faster.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: It is very successful.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And talaga,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasi ang tagal-tagal niyan, hindi talaga umuusad eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Finally, ho.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Okay. So, maraming salamat.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung itatanong ko, yung BFAR and

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: NFRDI.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: What is delaying

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: the fisheries investment?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: And how are its benefits measured?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: In 2025,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: fish core obligated 1.188 billion

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: or 36.9%

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: only

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: of its 3.2 billion

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: allotment.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: And then, its disbursement,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: it was even less.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Only 572.995.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: What are these infrastructure

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: and livelihood projects that are so

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: delayed?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: And when will the fisher folk finally receive

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: the intended benefits?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Bakit po natatagalan ng todo-todo?

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Tagot.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Mr. Chair,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ma'am, good afternoon.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yung talaga niya about the fish core,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: sa first transition kasi,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: medyo mahirap po yung requirements po ng

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: World Bank.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi ba kaya pa simple yan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi dinaanan na natin yan ng PRDP.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi ba pwedeng usapan na

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: i-streamline na lang yan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi nakakaawa yung fisher folk natin.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: As we know, the poverty rates

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: on the coastal areas are

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: two and a half times that of anywhere else.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: I think we should address this with great urgency.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ma'am, naayos po namin.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Naayos na po na paganda na

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: by last June,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: by last June,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: yung ating obligation,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: almost 55% na

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: kasama na po doon, ma'am,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: yung ating IMPRA.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Yung IMPRA natin almost completed na

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: out of 647 million,

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: almost done.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi natin dapat biguin

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang ating mga mga isda

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: kasi talagang inaasahan nila

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: na jackpot sila kay sekretary

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: dahil fishing magnate.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya, eto nga,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: na nalulogmok sila,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: doon sa 36.9% lamang

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: na obligasyon, dapat mataas-taas

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: naman natin.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Ma'am, we're praying

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: that by the end of December

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: 2026, yung aming

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: obligation, almost

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: 85 to 90%.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, wala na ito?

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Wala na yung mga updated na.

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BFAR Director Elizer S. Salilig: Pwede kami mag-submit, ma'am, ng updated.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Para masagot naman namin yung mga nagtatanong.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Maliban dito, yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: NFRDI,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: may accomplishment report

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05:10:27.520 --> 05:10:28.780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sumobra naman yata ang ganda,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: 123.98%.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano ibig sabihin nun?

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05:10:35.260 --> 05:10:36.480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: What does it measure?

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05:10:37.220 --> 05:10:38.780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Fish production ba yan?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Cost?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Coastal income?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano ibig sabihin nung 123.98?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Lumabis naman yata ito.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang nag-report nyan yung

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: NFRDI,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: ay, andito ba kayo?

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05:10:57.520 --> 05:11:03.460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano ibig sabihin nito?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi, kasi natuwa naman ako.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya lang, biglang napaisip ako.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano kaya ibig sabihin nito?

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Hello. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung halos 124% accomplishment, ano ibig sabihin nun? Fish production output?

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Ma'am, that's output. But to correct, ma'am, it's physical accomplishment po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Define physical accomplishment.

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: So, yung ma'am, what we target in terms of our deliverables, like trainings and establishment of the aqua business.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, yung actual fish production, yung actual costing, yung actual beneficio sa income, sa pera sa bulsa ng mga isda, wala yun?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Wala po.

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NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Yes po.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Puro training lang kayo doon?

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05:12:18.220 --> 05:12:24.400
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Yes po. Because, ma'am, we support po yung mga activities ng BIFAR.

asr-005526
05:12:24.400 --> 05:12:31.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Alam ninyo yung DA, kapag nag-training kayo, diba, nag-techno-demo kayo, ang tawag po sa amin, techno-demonyo na.

asr-005527
05:12:32.080 --> 05:12:46.980
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Opo. Mr. Chair, yung po kasing function ng NFRDI is research. So, ang assignment po namin sa Fish Corps is on the capacity building ng mga technicians ng BIFAR.

asr-005528
05:12:46.980 --> 05:12:52.300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, yung 123, ibig sabihin marami kayong na-train. Labis-labis ang na-train ninyo.

asr-005529
05:12:52.700 --> 05:12:59.340
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Ma'am, gusto ko po sana i-correct. I think that is 100% po, not 120%.

asr-005530
05:12:59.340 --> 05:13:00.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: It's in your report.

asr-005531
05:13:01.500 --> 05:13:04.440
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: So, ma'am, siguro i-double check po namin.

asr-005532
05:13:04.660 --> 05:13:06.420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: But this has everything to do with training.

asr-005533
05:13:07.100 --> 05:13:07.760
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: Yes, ma'am.

asr-005534
05:13:08.260 --> 05:13:11.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Walang uptick in fish production or anything?

asr-005535
05:13:11.160 --> 05:13:12.200
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: No, wala, ma'am.

asr-005536
05:13:12.280 --> 05:13:15.940
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: For example, ma'am, with regards to fish stock assessment.

asr-005537
05:13:15.940 --> 05:13:16.800
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: We conduct.

asr-005538
05:13:16.980 --> 05:13:19.960
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: We conduct capacity training on the.

asr-005539
05:13:19.980 --> 05:13:22.440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ay, puro training yan sa katutak na techno-demo.

asr-005540
05:13:22.720 --> 05:13:34.600
NFRDI Executive Director Maria Theresa M. Mutia: And as well as, ma'am, yung data consolidation ng mga data from the stock assessment as well as we conduct the carrying capacity of our mariculture parks.

asr-005541
05:13:35.880 --> 05:13:38.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Okay, okay. So, ganun lang yun. Yun lang, totally.

asr-005542
05:13:39.420 --> 05:13:41.560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Na-excited ako. Akala ko butoon eh.

asr-005543
05:13:42.020 --> 05:13:43.020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: O, sige. Okay.

asr-005544
05:13:43.640 --> 05:13:45.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, thank you.

asr-005545
05:13:45.620 --> 05:13:46.520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you po.

asr-005546
05:13:46.980 --> 05:13:53.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ACPC po, the COA identified 518 million undisbursed credit funds

asr-005547
05:13:53.620 --> 05:14:01.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: that were not returned by partner lending conduits.

asr-005548
05:14:01.420 --> 05:14:02.680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano ba ibig sabihin ito?

asr-005549
05:14:03.000 --> 05:14:07.480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: How much has been recovered or actually lent to eligible borrowers?

asr-005550
05:14:08.160 --> 05:14:10.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi yung ACPC na yan, matagal na yan.

asr-005551
05:14:11.480 --> 05:14:14.540
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eh ngayon, may undisbursed credit funds pa.

asr-005552
05:14:14.540 --> 05:14:16.540
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Paano tayo hihingi ng karagdaga?

asr-005553
05:14:16.980 --> 05:14:19.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kapag hindi dinidisbursed ng DA?

asr-005554
05:14:21.040 --> 05:14:23.500
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Madam Chair.

asr-005555
05:14:24.440 --> 05:14:27.580
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: For that findings, ma'am, that was already resolved po.

asr-005556
05:14:28.040 --> 05:14:33.900
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: As of today po, the only unreturned undisbursed fund for 2025 is only 50 million.

asr-005557
05:14:34.920 --> 05:14:36.240
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: 50 million, ma'am.

asr-005558
05:14:36.340 --> 05:14:36.940
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Five zero?

asr-005559
05:14:37.300 --> 05:14:37.880
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Yes, ma'am.

asr-005560
05:14:38.300 --> 05:14:42.760
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: So, which conduits took so long?

asr-005561
05:14:43.900 --> 05:14:46.080
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Actually, ma'am, it's for 2025.

asr-005562
05:14:46.080 --> 05:14:48.740
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: And we are now resolving it.

asr-005563
05:14:48.900 --> 05:14:52.640
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: We've already sent the demand letter to this partner lending conduit po.

asr-005564
05:14:52.900 --> 05:14:53.820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sino-sino sila?

asr-005565
05:14:53.940 --> 05:14:54.460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pwedeng mahala?

asr-005566
05:14:54.460 --> 05:14:55.620
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Isa lang po siya, ma'am.

asr-005567
05:14:55.680 --> 05:14:55.780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Huh?

asr-005568
05:14:56.400 --> 05:14:57.700
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Nag-iisa lang naman po.

asr-005569
05:14:57.720 --> 05:14:58.220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sino naman?

asr-005570
05:14:59.140 --> 05:15:00.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang tagal.

asr-005571
05:15:00.000 --> 05:15:04.080
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: sa North Luzon

asr-005572
05:15:04.080 --> 05:15:05.040
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: po ma'am.

asr-005573
05:15:05.880 --> 05:15:08.340
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: It's Guagua Rural Bank po.

asr-005574
05:15:08.600 --> 05:15:09.040
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Guagua?

asr-005575
05:15:09.860 --> 05:15:11.280
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Ba't nangyari yun?

asr-005576
05:15:12.060 --> 05:15:14.020
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Ma'am, nagkaroon lang po siguro

asr-005577
05:15:14.020 --> 05:15:16.080
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: ng, actually

asr-005578
05:15:16.080 --> 05:15:18.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ma'am. Gano'ng katagal na iwan

asr-005579
05:15:18.200 --> 05:15:20.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa Guagua? Matagal eh. Ang balita

asr-005580
05:15:20.200 --> 05:15:22.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ako, tagal-tagal. Hindi naman

asr-005581
05:15:22.100 --> 05:15:23.620
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: ma'am. Mga one year po.

asr-005582
05:15:23.900 --> 05:15:25.700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: One year lang? Okay.

asr-005583
05:15:26.260 --> 05:15:26.840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano nangyari?

asr-005584
05:15:26.840 --> 05:15:29.020
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: The fund

asr-005585
05:15:29.020 --> 05:15:30.400
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: was disbursed to them

asr-005586
05:15:30.400 --> 05:15:32.620
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: to implement

asr-005587
05:15:32.620 --> 05:15:34.840
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: a particular program. It's

asr-005588
05:15:34.840 --> 05:15:35.980
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: for the palay yield

asr-005589
05:15:35.980 --> 05:15:39.000
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: increase po. This is the entire

asr-005590
05:15:39.000 --> 05:15:40.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 518.5?

asr-005591
05:15:40.920 --> 05:15:41.560
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: No, ma'am, no.

asr-005592
05:15:41.700 --> 05:15:43.400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: How much was released to Guagua?

asr-005593
05:15:43.400 --> 05:15:46.760
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: 90 million, ma'am. The 40 million was released to

asr-005594
05:15:46.760 --> 05:15:48.640
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: borrowers, to end borrowers.

asr-005595
05:15:49.080 --> 05:15:50.660
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Only the 50 million po ang

asr-005596
05:15:50.660 --> 05:15:51.820
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: remaining po na

asr-005597
05:15:51.820 --> 05:15:53.640
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: undisbursed and returned.

asr-005598
05:15:54.160 --> 05:15:56.700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Teka, pero yung kuha ninyo, 518

asr-005599
05:15:56.700 --> 05:15:58.340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang rin na red flag? Sa

asr-005600
05:15:58.340 --> 05:16:00.640
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: reconciliation lang naman po yun. Pero

asr-005601
05:16:00.640 --> 05:16:02.360
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: na-address na po namin siya.

asr-005602
05:16:02.780 --> 05:16:04.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: O sige, mag-submit na lang kayo kasi

asr-005603
05:16:04.500 --> 05:16:06.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: hindi siya good looking sa aming

asr-005604
05:16:06.500 --> 05:16:08.440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: mga report card. Sige.

asr-005605
05:16:08.680 --> 05:16:10.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: With the permission of Senator Aimee,

asr-005606
05:16:10.780 --> 05:16:12.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: just on the ACPC,

asr-005607
05:16:14.920 --> 05:16:15.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung

asr-005608
05:16:15.240 --> 05:16:17.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa GIPSA

asr-005609
05:16:17.020 --> 05:16:18.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ka-act, meron ng

asr-005610
05:16:18.780 --> 05:16:20.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pagbebentahan ang mga

asr-005611
05:16:20.940 --> 05:16:22.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers natin, ano? Meron

asr-005612
05:16:22.780 --> 05:16:24.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng secured market.

asr-005613
05:16:24.920 --> 05:16:26.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Shouldn't the ACPC,

asr-005614
05:16:26.700 --> 05:16:28.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: come up with a program

asr-005615
05:16:28.820 --> 05:16:30.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that will precisely

asr-005616
05:16:30.220 --> 05:16:32.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: provide credit

asr-005617
05:16:32.520 --> 05:16:34.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for the sa GIPSA

asr-005618
05:16:34.420 --> 05:16:36.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: program

asr-005619
05:16:36.600 --> 05:16:38.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that the farmers

asr-005620
05:16:38.900 --> 05:16:39.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: can, kasi

asr-005621
05:16:39.880 --> 05:16:42.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kasama sa challenges

asr-005622
05:16:42.240 --> 05:16:45.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng productivity,

asr-005623
05:16:45.500 --> 05:16:46.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung access to credit,

asr-005624
05:16:46.880 --> 05:16:47.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba?

asr-005625
05:16:48.020 --> 05:16:50.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, while you now

asr-005626
05:16:50.620 --> 05:16:52.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: have the demand side,

asr-005627
05:16:53.480 --> 05:16:54.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: government buying directly

asr-005628
05:16:54.780 --> 05:16:55.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: from the farmers,

asr-005629
05:16:56.700 --> 05:16:58.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I understand, Quezon City government

asr-005630
05:16:58.860 --> 05:16:59.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bought about

asr-005631
05:16:59.740 --> 05:17:03.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 230 million

asr-005632
05:17:03.000 --> 05:17:04.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: worth of rice

asr-005633
05:17:04.020 --> 05:17:06.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa mga co-ops, no?

asr-005634
05:17:08.160 --> 05:17:08.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

asr-005635
05:17:09.260 --> 05:17:09.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meron ba kayong

asr-005636
05:17:09.960 --> 05:17:12.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: intervention? Meron ba kayong

asr-005637
05:17:12.920 --> 05:17:15.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: programa

asr-005638
05:17:15.180 --> 05:17:17.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: precisely to provide

asr-005639
05:17:17.200 --> 05:17:18.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: credit for the

asr-005640
05:17:18.920 --> 05:17:21.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers so that

asr-005641
05:17:21.100 --> 05:17:22.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they can, you know,

asr-005642
05:17:22.720 --> 05:17:25.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ensure a steady supply for

asr-005643
05:17:25.040 --> 05:17:26.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the sa GIPSA ka-market?

asr-005644
05:17:26.700 --> 05:17:27.860
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Yes, sir. Thank you for that

asr-005645
05:17:27.860 --> 05:17:29.100
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: question, Mr. Chair.

asr-005646
05:17:29.580 --> 05:17:30.900
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: We have po what we call the

asr-005647
05:17:30.900 --> 05:17:32.740
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: agri-negosyo loan program, wherein

asr-005648
05:17:32.740 --> 05:17:35.140
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: we lend to cooperatives, micro-small

asr-005649
05:17:35.140 --> 05:17:36.980
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: enterprise po. So,

asr-005650
05:17:37.160 --> 05:17:38.980
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: the loan amount po, especially

asr-005651
05:17:38.980 --> 05:17:40.680
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: for working capital, is up to

asr-005652
05:17:40.680 --> 05:17:42.860
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: 25 million, which is more than

asr-005653
05:17:42.860 --> 05:17:44.840
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: enough, actually, sir, to support their

asr-005654
05:17:44.840 --> 05:17:46.460
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: trading business as well.

asr-005655
05:17:47.820 --> 05:17:49.080
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Yun po, sir, yung isa sa mga

asr-005656
05:17:49.080 --> 05:17:51.020
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: programa namin, wherein one of

asr-005657
05:17:51.020 --> 05:17:53.160
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: the things that we do, sir, is to register

asr-005658
05:17:53.160 --> 05:17:54.900
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: sa FEDIS, sir, lahat po ng mga

asr-005659
05:17:54.900 --> 05:17:56.540
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: MSEs

asr-005660
05:17:56.540 --> 05:18:05.480
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: na sinusupport po namin para din po in compliance po with the SACA Act. All of these MSEs, sir, are required to register, sir, sa FEDIS po.

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05:18:05.480 --> 05:18:10.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: No, I was referring to farmers enterprises and co-ops.

asr-005661-split-2
05:18:10.580 --> 05:18:14.000
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Yes, sir. Those are co-ops, sir, and farmer enterprises.

asr-005661-split-3
05:18:14.000 --> 05:18:25.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi, di ba, pwede na na yung collateral mo ay yung kontrata? Di ba? Di ba? Halimbawa, yung PIDIG Multipurpose Cooperative,

asr-005663
05:18:25.860 --> 05:18:29.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: parang 52 million ang benta nila

asr-005664
05:18:29.500 --> 05:18:30.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa Quezon City Government.

asr-005665
05:18:32.000 --> 05:18:33.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? So,

asr-005666
05:18:33.720 --> 05:18:35.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para madagdagan nila

asr-005667
05:18:35.300 --> 05:18:37.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung capacity nila to produce,

asr-005668
05:18:37.820 --> 05:18:39.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba, makakapag-utang sila,

asr-005669
05:18:39.300 --> 05:18:41.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then, pwede nyo pa-utangin, no?

asr-005670
05:18:42.020 --> 05:18:42.900
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Yes, sir. Under the

asr-005671
05:18:42.900 --> 05:18:44.680
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: agri-negosyo loan program, sir, pwede po, sir.

asr-005672
05:18:44.680 --> 05:18:46.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Can you give me, well,

asr-005673
05:18:46.900 --> 05:18:48.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if you have the information, no,

asr-005674
05:18:49.100 --> 05:18:51.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a list, if

asr-005675
05:18:51.140 --> 05:18:52.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meron na, ng mga

asr-005676
05:18:52.760 --> 05:18:54.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pinautangan ninyo na ang kanilang

asr-005677
05:18:54.920 --> 05:18:56.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kliyente, eh,

asr-005678
05:18:56.140 --> 05:18:58.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang gobyerno bumibili sa kanila,

asr-005679
05:18:58.260 --> 05:18:59.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meron ba kayo nun?

asr-005680
05:18:59.480 --> 05:19:03.200
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Sige, sir, we can provide you with a list, sir. We'll submit, sir.

asr-005681
05:19:03.380 --> 05:19:04.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, please. Thank you. Go ahead, ma'am.

asr-005682
05:19:04.840 --> 05:19:06.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, following up

asr-005683
05:19:06.320 --> 05:19:08.420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on Sen. Kiko, may

asr-005684
05:19:08.420 --> 05:19:10.420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: tanong, kasi may controversy

asr-005685
05:19:10.420 --> 05:19:12.560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: dun sa mga nakalista

asr-005686
05:19:12.560 --> 05:19:14.400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na qualified sa

asr-005687
05:19:14.400 --> 05:19:16.440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ACPC na kinikilalang

asr-005688
05:19:16.440 --> 05:19:17.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: agri-co-ops ng DA

asr-005689
05:19:17.900 --> 05:19:20.460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: versus yung mga co-ops

asr-005690
05:19:20.460 --> 05:19:22.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na kinikilala ng CDA.

asr-005691
05:19:22.260 --> 05:19:24.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi ba pwedeng i-align na once and for

asr-005692
05:19:24.360 --> 05:19:25.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: all yung mga yan?

asr-005693
05:19:26.140 --> 05:19:28.280
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Actually, ma'am, the requirement of the

asr-005694
05:19:28.280 --> 05:19:30.300
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: ACPC po are the co-ops

asr-005695
05:19:30.300 --> 05:19:32.200
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: registered in the

asr-005696
05:19:32.200 --> 05:19:33.180
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: CDA.

asr-005697
05:19:34.320 --> 05:19:36.040
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Since yun po yung regulatory.

asr-005698
05:19:36.060 --> 05:19:38.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi, siguro nagkakalituhan kasi may

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05:19:38.320 --> 05:19:40.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nabanggit ka kanina ng mga

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05:19:40.120 --> 05:19:42.940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: SMEs. Baka naman yun

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05:19:42.940 --> 05:19:43.940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na hindi co-ops.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: The MSEs. Kasi naglereklamo sila na

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05:19:46.200 --> 05:19:48.560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: qualified daw sa CDA, di daw kinikilala

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: and vice versa.

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05:19:49.400 --> 05:19:52.440
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: Sa ACPC, ma'am, it's all registered

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05:19:52.440 --> 05:19:54.260
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: po under the CDA po.

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05:19:54.860 --> 05:19:55.980
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: I'm referring, ma'am, to

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05:19:55.980 --> 05:19:58.260
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: MSEs in terms of the classification

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05:19:58.260 --> 05:19:59.700
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: po in the asset size

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05:19:59.700 --> 05:20:01.980
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: of the enterprise, which includes

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05:20:01.980 --> 05:20:03.160
ACPC Executive Director Rallen O. Verdadero: po the cooperatives.

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05:20:03.780 --> 05:20:05.660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I see. But Secretary Kiko,

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05:20:06.180 --> 05:20:08.180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: there is a bureau still under

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05:20:08.180 --> 05:20:10.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the DA for co-ops, or

asr-005715
05:20:10.140 --> 05:20:11.560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is that no longer extant?

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05:20:12.120 --> 05:20:13.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, it is no longer

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05:20:13.860 --> 05:20:15.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in existence.

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05:20:16.500 --> 05:20:17.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But we have an office

asr-005719
05:20:17.940 --> 05:20:20.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for agri-co-ops

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05:20:20.100 --> 05:20:21.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to assist agri-co-ops lang.

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05:20:21.960 --> 05:20:24.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang management

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05:20:24.080 --> 05:20:25.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and approvals pa rin yan sa CDA.

asr-005723
05:20:25.980 --> 05:20:28.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then, yun na nga, may sinusulong

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05:20:28.080 --> 05:20:29.680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: din na batas si Sen. Kiko

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05:20:29.680 --> 05:20:31.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na sinusuportahan ng

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05:20:31.460 --> 05:20:34.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Department of Agriculture for the

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05:20:34.040 --> 05:20:35.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Agricultural Cooperatives.

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05:20:35.760 --> 05:20:36.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

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05:20:38.320 --> 05:20:39.260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tapos na yun, no?

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05:20:40.120 --> 05:20:41.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ipirmahan na lang dapat?

asr-005731
05:20:41.620 --> 05:20:42.440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: House na lang.

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05:20:43.040 --> 05:20:44.260
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Walang house version?

asr-005733
05:20:45.940 --> 05:20:47.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero, madali naman pa sa'yo,

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05:20:48.000 --> 05:20:49.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: niwala nga ng appropriations clause

asr-005735
05:20:49.740 --> 05:20:51.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung pobring bill na yun.

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05:20:53.180 --> 05:20:54.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya nga eh.

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05:20:54.320 --> 05:20:55.940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya nga. So, yun,

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05:20:55.980 --> 05:20:57.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: itatanong namin, tapos yung mga

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05:20:57.920 --> 05:20:59.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: farm inputs na substandard,

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05:21:00.900 --> 05:21:02.080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: andyan pa rin ba yung issue

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05:21:02.080 --> 05:21:03.160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na yan? Kasi,

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05:21:03.960 --> 05:21:06.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: can the enforcement against substandard

asr-005743
05:21:06.200 --> 05:21:07.780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: farm inputs be sustained

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05:21:07.780 --> 05:21:09.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: under the reduced budget?

asr-005745
05:21:09.760 --> 05:21:12.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi nakita ko, isa pang reduction

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05:21:12.000 --> 05:21:12.440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yan eh.

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05:21:13.920 --> 05:21:16.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: The FPA, yung proposed budget

asr-005748
05:21:16.200 --> 05:21:17.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: falls by 36.5%.

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05:21:18.640 --> 05:21:19.840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Malaki-laki siya for its

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05:21:19.840 --> 05:21:22.160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: total budget. Yung MOE

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05:21:22.160 --> 05:21:23.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: niya declines by 30.4%.

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05:21:23.980 --> 05:21:25.640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Capital outlay by

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05:21:25.980 --> 05:21:27.400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 99.2%.

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05:21:27.400 --> 05:21:30.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Which reduction reflects

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05:21:30.240 --> 05:21:31.560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: what? Yung purchases,

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05:21:32.020 --> 05:21:34.180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: inspection, lab testing,

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05:21:34.360 --> 05:21:34.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: enforcement?

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05:21:35.820 --> 05:21:38.060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi medyo radical ang kanyang

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05:21:38.060 --> 05:21:38.580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: deduction.

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05:21:39.460 --> 05:21:41.780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In my opinion, Mr. Chair, medyo

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05:21:41.780 --> 05:21:44.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: a little bit of everything. All of the above.

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05:21:47.960 --> 05:21:49.460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, what's the...

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05:21:49.460 --> 05:21:52.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: You requested some kind of funding

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05:21:52.100 --> 05:21:54.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: also, additional minimum funding

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05:21:54.120 --> 05:21:55.960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: para sa fertilizer and pest.

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05:21:55.980 --> 05:22:00.040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: To meet the

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05:22:00.040 --> 05:22:01.480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: proper

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05:22:01.480 --> 05:22:02.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: specifications.

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05:22:02.980 --> 05:22:04.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi maraming reklamo dyan, di ba po?

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05:22:04.940 --> 05:22:05.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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05:22:07.320 --> 05:22:09.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, you don't think

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05:22:09.920 --> 05:22:11.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: that the budget cut

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05:22:11.740 --> 05:22:13.800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: upwards of 36%

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05:22:13.800 --> 05:22:15.480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: will affect this issue?

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05:22:15.900 --> 05:22:17.800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I recall that you were requesting

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05:22:17.800 --> 05:22:19.860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: almost 9 billion at the previous

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05:22:19.860 --> 05:22:21.820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: hearing for pesticides,

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05:22:22.360 --> 05:22:23.180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for fertilizer,

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05:22:23.180 --> 05:22:25.960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for soil enrichment,

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05:22:25.980 --> 05:22:26.860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and so on.

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05:22:27.860 --> 05:22:29.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa fertilizers,

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05:22:29.780 --> 05:22:31.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, we have an option

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05:22:31.900 --> 05:22:33.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: with the same amount of money.

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05:22:35.220 --> 05:22:36.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mag-convert kami

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05:22:36.220 --> 05:22:38.080
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to a different type of fertilizer,

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05:22:38.320 --> 05:22:39.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: soil ameliorants, which is cheaper.

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05:22:41.060 --> 05:22:42.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, but kulang pa rin

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05:22:42.220 --> 05:22:42.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng konti.

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05:22:42.960 --> 05:22:45.560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: But the soil ameliorant

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05:22:45.560 --> 05:22:48.020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is not fertilizer po. It's a

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05:22:48.020 --> 05:22:49.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: different function entirely.

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05:22:49.920 --> 05:22:51.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya mas mura siya.

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05:22:51.380 --> 05:22:53.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tama ko kayo, Mr. Chair.

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05:22:53.120 --> 05:22:55.400
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pero mayroon pang bio-fertilizer pa.

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05:22:55.980 --> 05:22:57.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Foiler, inorganic,

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05:22:58.020 --> 05:22:59.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: very liquid-based

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05:22:59.020 --> 05:23:02.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: urea or fertilizer.

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05:23:03.460 --> 05:23:03.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I see.

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05:23:04.180 --> 05:23:06.300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I see. Okay. So, you're confident

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05:23:06.300 --> 05:23:08.460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: this will not impact

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05:23:08.460 --> 05:23:10.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on the already

asr-005802
05:23:10.100 --> 05:23:12.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: numerous complaints

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05:23:12.500 --> 05:23:14.020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: of substandard inputs?

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05:23:14.860 --> 05:23:16.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, kulang pa rin talaga.

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05:23:17.120 --> 05:23:18.640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: That's why we are requesting

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05:23:18.640 --> 05:23:20.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for additional 8 billion

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05:23:20.280 --> 05:23:21.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: dyan.

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05:23:22.220 --> 05:23:24.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Dahil tumaas kasi lahat talaga

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05:23:24.280 --> 05:23:24.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng presyo.

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05:23:25.980 --> 05:23:28.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mayroon ang pinakamalaking problema,

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05:23:28.160 --> 05:23:29.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tumaas ang presyo.

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05:23:29.420 --> 05:23:30.640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Speaking of reductions,

asr-005813
05:23:31.220 --> 05:23:33.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: pasensya, matagal-tagal kasi ang haba-haba

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05:23:33.380 --> 05:23:35.640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng submission ninyo kasi 1 million

asr-005815
05:23:35.640 --> 05:23:37.680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yata ang attached agencies ninyo.

asr-005816
05:23:38.060 --> 05:23:39.280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kawawa naman kayo.

asr-005817
05:23:39.600 --> 05:23:41.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero ang dami kasing agency.

asr-005818
05:23:41.880 --> 05:23:42.720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung NMIS,

asr-005819
05:23:43.480 --> 05:23:45.300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: will the operating budget cut

asr-005820
05:23:45.300 --> 05:23:47.480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: weaken the meat safety inspection?

asr-005821
05:23:47.760 --> 05:23:48.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi ito, malaki ito,

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05:23:48.980 --> 05:23:51.800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 78.5 ang reduction.

asr-005823
05:23:52.380 --> 05:23:53.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Zero capital outlay.

asr-005824
05:23:53.980 --> 05:23:55.940
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And then, the deducted allocation,

asr-005825
05:23:55.940 --> 05:23:57.400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is now transferred,

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05:23:57.620 --> 05:23:59.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: temporarily lodged under OSEC,

asr-005827
05:24:00.460 --> 05:24:00.860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: BAE,

asr-005828
05:24:01.320 --> 05:24:03.780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: as part of the Animal Competitiveness

asr-005829
05:24:03.780 --> 05:24:04.820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Enhancement Fund.

asr-005830
05:24:05.140 --> 05:24:06.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tama ba yung pagbasa ko?

asr-005831
05:24:06.400 --> 05:24:07.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tama ho yung pagbasa nyo.

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05:24:07.940 --> 05:24:09.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya nga ang request namin.

asr-005833
05:24:09.320 --> 05:24:10.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Since hindi namin magagamit,

asr-005834
05:24:10.780 --> 05:24:12.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, yung aming animal,

asr-005835
05:24:13.540 --> 05:24:15.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung IDCA fund na 20 billion

asr-005836
05:24:15.360 --> 05:24:17.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: because of all the prerequisites

asr-005837
05:24:18.640 --> 05:24:19.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: for us to be able to

asr-005838
05:24:19.920 --> 05:24:21.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: access that fund.

asr-005839
05:24:21.440 --> 05:24:23.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We are requesting na restructure

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05:24:23.140 --> 05:24:25.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung particular livestock

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05:24:25.940 --> 05:24:28.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: budget na yan and go and revert

asr-005842
05:24:28.380 --> 05:24:30.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to the usual programs,

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05:24:30.360 --> 05:24:30.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

asr-005844
05:24:32.920 --> 05:24:34.400
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yun yung binanggit ninyo kanina?

asr-005845
05:24:34.980 --> 05:24:36.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung livestock needs topping up?

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05:24:37.020 --> 05:24:37.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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05:24:37.900 --> 05:24:38.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I see.

asr-005848
05:24:38.860 --> 05:24:40.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At baka maganda dyan,

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05:24:42.420 --> 05:24:45.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung 24 billion na kailangan na

asr-005850
05:24:45.800 --> 05:24:47.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nabibigay sana sa amin,

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05:24:47.720 --> 05:24:49.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang kailangan namin with that restructuring

asr-005852
05:24:49.860 --> 05:24:50.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is 15 billion.

asr-005853
05:24:51.540 --> 05:24:53.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So meron na meron magiging savings

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05:24:53.480 --> 05:24:53.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung

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05:24:53.940 --> 05:24:55.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na pwede,

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05:24:55.940 --> 05:24:58.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: luluwag yung fiscal space to put

asr-005857
05:24:58.060 --> 05:24:59.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: funds somewhere else

asr-005858
05:24:59.520 --> 05:25:02.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in the DA family to top up,

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05:25:02.340 --> 05:25:02.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

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05:25:03.040 --> 05:25:05.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I see. So, sumatotal, how much funding

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05:25:05.740 --> 05:25:07.860
Senator Imee R. Marcos: is lodged under BAE for the

asr-005862
05:25:07.860 --> 05:25:09.280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: functions of NMIS?

asr-005863
05:25:09.920 --> 05:25:11.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And how and when can NMIS

asr-005864
05:25:11.900 --> 05:25:12.960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: actually access

asr-005865
05:25:12.960 --> 05:25:15.220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the combined funding?

asr-005866
05:25:15.260 --> 05:25:16.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Basically, Mr. Chair,

asr-005867
05:25:16.660 --> 05:25:18.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to sustain the functions, di po ba?

asr-005868
05:25:18.580 --> 05:25:20.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kailangan lang namin maibalik

asr-005869
05:25:20.200 --> 05:25:23.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: more or less to last year's budget plus 10%.

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05:25:23.200 --> 05:25:24.820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I see. Last year

asr-005871
05:25:24.820 --> 05:25:25.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: plus 10%. This year?

asr-005872
05:25:25.940 --> 05:25:27.160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, budget pala. Ah, sorry.

asr-005873
05:25:27.820 --> 05:25:29.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Additional 10%.

asr-005874
05:25:29.320 --> 05:25:31.820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And that will be under OSEC?

asr-005875
05:25:31.820 --> 05:25:32.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: BAE? Ganon?

asr-005876
05:25:32.620 --> 05:25:34.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I'm not too sure. BAE, ma'am.

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05:25:35.320 --> 05:25:37.680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: NMIS, BAE, yung mga

asr-005878
05:25:37.680 --> 05:25:39.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: same businesses.

asr-005879
05:25:39.800 --> 05:25:42.080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi ngayon, linipat sa DA, OSEC, BAE.

asr-005880
05:25:42.440 --> 05:25:43.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Because of the IDCA.

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05:25:43.820 --> 05:25:46.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That's right. So now, you are

asr-005882
05:25:46.120 --> 05:25:47.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: going to move it to DA,

asr-005883
05:25:48.260 --> 05:25:48.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: OSEC, NMIS.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: To the different bureaus.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Babalik lang siya sa 2026.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Maybe you can,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: give us a short summary para maintindihan

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: namin. Kasi kapag

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: tinitignan, hindi mo

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: maintindihan masyado

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: kung reorganization

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05:26:05.680 --> 05:26:08.180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: at kung may mali siya, mamaya sabihin

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: minamalverse.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair, and maraming salamat

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ho, Madam Senator.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kailangan namin niyo supportan

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ninyo. Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just very quickly lang,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sekiko, dun sa usapin ng

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05:26:21.960 --> 05:26:23.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung 20 billion,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because you have 24 billion,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: worth of

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05:26:27.380 --> 05:26:30.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: budget

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05:26:30.280 --> 05:26:31.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: additional funding.

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05:26:32.480 --> 05:26:33.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, please,

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05:26:34.740 --> 05:26:36.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ano yung priority

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05:26:36.460 --> 05:26:37.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nyo dun sa

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05:26:37.180 --> 05:26:39.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 24 billion na yun?

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05:26:40.220 --> 05:26:42.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi baka hindi natin ma-accommodate

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05:26:42.540 --> 05:26:44.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lahat. And then, ano yung palagay

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05:26:44.480 --> 05:26:46.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nyo galing dun sa

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05:26:46.140 --> 05:26:47.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: livestock? Yun ang pwede.

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05:26:47.940 --> 05:26:50.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You give us

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05:26:50.640 --> 05:26:52.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your wish list, di ba?

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05:26:52.540 --> 05:26:54.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, I just made

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05:26:54.260 --> 05:26:55.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the number 1 to 10.

asr-005918
05:26:55.940 --> 05:26:57.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I don't know, based on priority, which will be submitted

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05:26:57.820 --> 05:26:59.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to you within the hour.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

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05:27:02.040 --> 05:27:02.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, ma'am.

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05:27:03.440 --> 05:27:05.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Nasa livestock pa rin tayo, PCC.

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05:27:05.920 --> 05:27:07.820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: How will dairy production expand

asr-005924
05:27:07.820 --> 05:27:10.280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: without funding for the herd build-up?

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05:27:11.900 --> 05:27:14.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, ganun din yung

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05:27:14.320 --> 05:27:16.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sagot namin dun.

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05:27:16.220 --> 05:27:17.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung IDCA fund na

asr-005928
05:27:17.420 --> 05:27:18.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: babalik sa ano.

asr-005929
05:27:19.920 --> 05:27:21.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Basically, we'll be submitting a new

asr-005930
05:27:21.980 --> 05:27:23.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: request for the new

asr-005931
05:27:23.880 --> 05:27:25.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: GAA of the livestock sector.

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05:27:25.940 --> 05:27:26.780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Oh, I see.

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05:27:27.220 --> 05:27:29.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kung pwede, isama na rin tong tanong na to.

asr-005934
05:27:29.680 --> 05:27:31.460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi inaasahan nga, di ba,

asr-005935
05:27:31.600 --> 05:27:33.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nabigyan na natin yung ibang farmers

asr-005936
05:27:33.600 --> 05:27:35.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: over the past few years,

asr-005937
05:27:35.500 --> 05:27:37.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: nag-herd build-up na of some sort,

asr-005938
05:27:37.380 --> 05:27:39.660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and the schools are already relying

asr-005939
05:27:39.660 --> 05:27:41.080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on that supply of milk.

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05:27:41.560 --> 05:27:43.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, they were a little bit agitated

asr-005941
05:27:43.600 --> 05:27:45.320
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to discover that

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05:27:45.320 --> 05:27:48.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the proposed budget excludes

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05:27:48.200 --> 05:27:49.800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the 159 million

asr-005944
05:27:49.800 --> 05:27:51.780
Senator Imee R. Marcos: requested for the 5th year

asr-005945
05:27:51.780 --> 05:27:53.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na sana herd build-up.

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05:27:53.880 --> 05:27:55.580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, gusto sana namin,

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05:27:55.940 --> 05:27:57.540
Senator Imee R. Marcos: maipaliwanag kung paano ba

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05:27:57.540 --> 05:27:58.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung mga eskwelahan na umaasad yan?

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05:27:58.920 --> 05:28:01.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We'll include it in our submission, Mr. Chair.

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05:28:01.280 --> 05:28:03.300
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang buong livestock ko, bibigay namin yung

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05:28:03.300 --> 05:28:04.520
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: restructured

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05:28:04.520 --> 05:28:06.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: proposal

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05:28:06.460 --> 05:28:09.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: within na binigay

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05:28:09.860 --> 05:28:11.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa aming fiscal space. Thank you.

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05:28:15.880 --> 05:28:18.800
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So, kailan kaya ma-restructure yan?

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05:28:18.900 --> 05:28:20.300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mahabol ba yan bago

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05:28:20.300 --> 05:28:20.820
Senator Imee R. Marcos: maipakailan?

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05:28:20.820 --> 05:28:23.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Actually, Mr. Chair, ready na kami lahat.

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05:28:24.180 --> 05:28:25.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We've submitted everything to

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05:28:25.940 --> 05:28:26.780
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Congress, although

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05:28:26.780 --> 05:28:29.320
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it was, doon kami na late eh,

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05:28:29.380 --> 05:28:31.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but dito sa Senate, mukhang

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05:28:31.280 --> 05:28:32.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tama-tama pa rin yung oras.

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05:28:33.060 --> 05:28:35.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And the House of Representatives are aware,

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05:28:35.780 --> 05:28:37.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: DBM is aware, so

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05:28:37.280 --> 05:28:39.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: tulong-tulong,

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05:28:39.720 --> 05:28:41.480
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: pag tulong-tulongan na lang, Mr. Chair.

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05:28:42.120 --> 05:28:43.680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mabuti naman at tama o

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05:28:43.680 --> 05:28:45.440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: optimize silang lahat, kasi nga

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05:28:45.440 --> 05:28:47.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa ngayon, sabog-sabog eh, kalat-kalat

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05:28:47.380 --> 05:28:49.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: sa iba't-ibang ahensya.

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05:28:49.560 --> 05:28:51.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: And siguro yung huli na lamang, yung

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05:28:51.360 --> 05:28:53.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Philmec, why are the processing facilities

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05:28:53.880 --> 05:28:55.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: still lying idle?

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05:28:55.940 --> 05:28:57.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Right? Substantial funding.

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05:28:57.680 --> 05:29:01.480
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Core reports, only a 9.29%

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05:29:01.480 --> 05:29:02.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: fund utilization

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: for 2 billion

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05:29:03.660 --> 05:29:05.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: coconut shared processing.

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05:29:05.920 --> 05:29:08.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Eto na naman yung mahiwaga, taon-taon na lang to.

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05:29:08.560 --> 05:29:09.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Covering 2023

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: to 2025, only

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: 5 of the projected

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05:29:13.840 --> 05:29:15.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 92 under 2025

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05:29:16.620 --> 05:29:18.100
Senator Imee R. Marcos: were actually established

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: and operating.

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05:29:19.860 --> 05:29:21.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: What were the equipment procurement,

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05:29:22.180 --> 05:29:23.900
Senator Imee R. Marcos: site preparation, construction,

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05:29:24.720 --> 05:29:25.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: beneficiary,

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05:29:25.940 --> 05:29:28.060
Senator Imee R. Marcos: readiness? What were the

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05:29:28.060 --> 05:29:30.000
Senator Imee R. Marcos: problems? Ba't hindi na-synchronize?

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05:29:30.420 --> 05:29:31.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi ang sama nito,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: 9% lang.

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05:29:33.860 --> 05:29:35.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, I'll ask

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Philmec Director Alvin Dia to

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: present.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Madam Senator, as regard to the

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: shared processing facilities po

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05:29:45.740 --> 05:29:47.800
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: na in-implement ng

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05:29:47.800 --> 05:29:49.380
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Philmec, which is

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: yung provisions po

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05:29:51.800 --> 05:29:53.660
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: ng mga

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05:29:53.660 --> 05:29:55.480
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: post-harvest facilities.

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05:29:55.940 --> 05:29:58.080
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: So, just to give you

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05:29:58.080 --> 05:29:59.620
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: some background on this.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Noon po kasing 2022 to 2024, it was the DPWH who was implementing the erection ng warehouse.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Then by that time, ang nagawa po nila in two years time was 29 facilities.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: At ang nangyari doon sa 29 facilities, ang natapos po roon ay 16.

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: 11 yung 16 yung natapos, 11 yung hindi natapos.

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05:30:32.420 --> 05:30:36.920
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Pero sa 16 facilities po walang mga building permits.

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05:30:37.240 --> 05:30:40.000
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Kaya hindi po namin malagyan ng mga facilities.

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05:30:40.740 --> 05:30:49.260
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Ngayon po, ngayong 2025 onwards, inilipad na po sa Philmec yung construction ng building.

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05:30:49.520 --> 05:30:53.240
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Kaya meron na po tayong 39 ngayon na ongoing construction.

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05:30:53.240 --> 05:30:55.020
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: So yun po yung update.

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05:30:55.380 --> 05:30:56.420
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Pero kaya nga po.

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05:30:56.520 --> 05:31:00.960
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Hindi kami makabili ng mga facilities ng walang warehouses.

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05:31:01.160 --> 05:31:03.040
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Pero ina-update na po namin.

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05:31:03.740 --> 05:31:07.180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So ilan ang functioning warehouses ngayon suma total?

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05:31:07.620 --> 05:31:10.720
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Actually, ang functioning warehouses po ngayon nasa 16.

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05:31:11.260 --> 05:31:11.460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ha?

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05:31:11.680 --> 05:31:13.020
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: 16 warehouses po.

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05:31:13.760 --> 05:31:15.120
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 16? Mas konti pa.

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05:31:15.440 --> 05:31:17.400
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Hindi po. Yung po yung natapos.

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05:31:17.560 --> 05:31:19.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Teka, 92 ang plano, di ba?

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05:31:20.080 --> 05:31:20.360
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Opo.

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05:31:20.840 --> 05:31:22.520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tapos yung 16 lang ang nabuo.

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05:31:23.640 --> 05:31:26.520
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Yun po yung ginawa ng DPWH.

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05:31:26.720 --> 05:31:28.680
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: From 2022 hanggang 2024.

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05:31:28.680 --> 05:31:31.660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Akala ko nung 2025, nakapagpatay yun na kayo ng marami.

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05:31:31.800 --> 05:31:34.320
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: 39 po yung ongoing natin ngayon na construction.

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05:31:34.320 --> 05:31:34.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ah, ongoing.

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05:31:35.100 --> 05:31:35.380
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Opo.

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05:31:35.900 --> 05:31:37.300
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So wala pang tapos doon.

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05:31:38.160 --> 05:31:43.500
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Meron na po tayong inaugurate na isa doon sa ginawa ng Philmec.

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05:31:43.540 --> 05:31:47.040
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi wala pang 10% yung fund utilization. Patay tayo dyan.

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05:31:47.320 --> 05:31:51.980
PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: Yes po. We are admitting that, Madam Chair.

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05:31:52.220 --> 05:31:56.360
Senator Imee R. Marcos: So meron kayong catch-up plan dyan? Puro barn ba yan? O saan ba yan?

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05:31:56.360 --> 05:32:03.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Dati kasi barm ang pinag-uusapan. Eh ngayon, itong mga catch-up na to, saan saan yan?

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PhilMech Director IV Dionisio G. Alvindia, Ph.D.: We will provide you, Mr. Chair, the complete catch-up and location of these specific projects.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Sige. Thank you.

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05:32:13.160 --> 05:32:14.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you.

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05:32:15.020 --> 05:32:16.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just a few more questions.

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05:32:17.480 --> 05:32:20.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dumating si Senator Aimee na alala ko tuloy.

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05:32:22.740 --> 05:32:26.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Doon sa issue nung seized Vietnam rights,

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05:32:26.360 --> 05:32:40.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we would like to clarify ano na ang status nitong dalawa yan actually, yung Limay-Bataan and Davao.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And my understanding is the delivery dates based on the documentation were delayed both for Limay-Bataan and Davao.

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05:32:56.360 --> 05:33:00.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The SP6 specified a specific date that it should arrive.

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05:33:01.740 --> 05:33:07.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero lumampas na, both for Bataan and for Davao.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And that's why, as I understand it, it was in violation of the permits.

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05:33:18.640 --> 05:33:24.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And therefore, kaya finlag at eventually, sumubok tumakas.

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05:33:24.360 --> 05:33:28.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: According to the BOC, at least that was the information relayed.

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05:33:29.740 --> 05:33:33.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At na-kumpis ka, na-intercept.

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05:33:34.940 --> 05:33:36.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that's question number one.

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05:33:36.760 --> 05:33:50.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Question number two, I mean update, is if the PPI was the consignee, how now do we proceed?

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05:33:50.740 --> 05:33:54.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sino sa PPI ang lumabag?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: O pinilit? O sumunod? Meron ba?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi iba yung sabi nga ninyo, na-delay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dapat yan July, pero September na.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, are you, is there an internal investigation?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In fairness to the Secretary, as you said publicly, you're the one who put a stop to the entry.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And precisely because of these errors or non-compliance with the permits.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And so how are we moving forward?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito ang tinatanong din.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I'm sure tatanongin ito sa plenary.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sa limay, umpisa ako sa limay.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: As far as we are concerned, from my review with our Bureau of Plant, our DAIE,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: wala silang nakikitang issue sa documents.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung sinasabing tampering, binanggit ng isang broadcaster, wala kaming nakita.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Meron din sinasabi na yung must-depart date, hindi na meet.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then the bill of lading issued by the shipping company,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: was August 31.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At yung must-depart date, mas load or mas anong date is September 1.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, pasok din.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, it's a BOC matter now.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, in my opinion, it's BOC ngayon na mag-husga or mag-ahatol kung ano mangyayari sa shipment na ito.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And this is a private company that imported the cargo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And walang kinalaman dito ang Department.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And the agriculture, except for issuance of an SPSIC.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: As far as the, ano naman, doon sa Davao, which I am being attacked.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before lang, sorry, just before Davao.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I remember this in 2011, subik din yung pagpasok ng bigas.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Na dapat transshipment lang.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun ang sinasabi.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero, hindi nga transshipment.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tsaka kung itatransship mo, ba't mo idadaan dito?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, may mga ganong problema nun.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya, parang nag-ano lang sa akin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is this a repeat?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Iba yung dokumento ng BOC, iba yung dokumento ng DA.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But, please allow us, submit some of the documents that you're mentioning about the entry.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi, yun nga, ang concern natin dito is, again,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: diba, medyo may concern doon sa documentation.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At least, yun ang na-relay sa akin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But, go ahead, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Che, we will submit all the reports about that, Limay.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: As far as the vessel Tyson 2 naman, ano sa Davao.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ulitin ko lang, ako ho ang nagpa-cancel ng SPSIC.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ako ang nagpahuli ng barko.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ako rin ang isa sa nag-decide to cease the cargo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Para malaman talaga.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang katotohanan, along with Commissioner Ariel Anipa-Moceno.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, clearly, na nakikita sa social media, I am clearly under attack.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For what reasons, I really don't know.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But, I can only smell the hands of smugglers.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Na tinira namin dati at nasa order of battle namin dito sa DA.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: At marami akong pinakancel na kumpanya nung particular smuggling group na to.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, I will even name the names.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: The name, not the name, but the so-called AKA of this group.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's a, tawag sa kanya, JOSOL group.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yung specific person na yan, I really do not know who they are.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But, yan ang intel na nakukuha namin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, basically, malinaw sa akin that I must be doing something right to get this flak.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And, twist, tinitwist pa yung katotohanan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And, totoo lang, boss, sir.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Senator, may resibo ako.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Andito lahat ng text ko to instruct BPI, instruct the Bureau of Fisheries, instruct DAIE.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In all the details here, makikita nyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ito, cancel this SPSIC ASAP, September 9.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kakaalis pa lang ng vessel sa Vietnam on September 8.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sinabi ng tao, sinabi sa akin, may nagtanong sa social media,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Bakit?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nasa India ako noon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And, nag-react lang ako based on a tip from industry players mismo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: On September 18, meron akong text din dito,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: which tinatrack namin yung vessel.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tinatrack namin daily, sinasamalis yan eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sabi ko kay Ethos to,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Bantayan, please tell Ethos and send DAA, wag i-allow.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Wag i-allow i-unload.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I heard they are planning to smuggle it.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But, of course, I heard lang.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I'm not sure if they are planning or not.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Maraming kinausap dito, including Bureau of Customs.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But, ang information ko, Bureau of Customs refused to dance.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, meaning, yung ating customs ay tinindigan na hindi sila papayag sa mga ganyan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Andito ho, recibo ho yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then, meron pa ako ditong text, September 19 naman.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: To BIFAR Director.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Please send BIFAR boat on this vessel to see if nag-unload.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then, on the same day, September 19,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang instruction ko na kay Director Salilig at USEC Truce,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: hulihin na ang vessel Tyson 2 at dalhin sa General Santos Fishport.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Bigas laman nito na cancelled SPSIC.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Hulihin na and makita naman natin kung puno pa or hindi na.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasi alam natin ang load nito.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, tapos,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sumagot si USEC Bayate sa akin na after a few minutes,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 10.36 to 11.20 AM,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: SEC apprehended na ng Navy ang vessel according to OIC BIFAR Director 12.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Then, I have the pictures.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tinanong ko na saan na.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I even sent a boat from my family's operations in General Santos to look for the vessel.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And take pictures.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Talagang hinanap namin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, kumpleto ho yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, kung ano man ang iniisip ng mga tao about,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: o yung mga tira sa akin,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: yung totoong, it's all lies.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's all fake news.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Twisted to hit me and want to get me out of this.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I will be submitting this to your office, Mr. Chair. May kopya kami ngayon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For your review and siguro sa review ng ibang kasamahan natin dito.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I just wanted to explain to clear the air, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yes, huling hirit na lang.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kasi nung una, sinabi yata ng BPI na i-o-auction.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero sabi ni Secretary, ito sa media lang.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ang pagkabalita, sabi sa diaryo na sabi ni Secretary,

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: huwag nang i-auction at baka mabalik lang sa mga smuggler.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: I-donate na lamang. Tama ba ito?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yung cease-trize sa DSWD para makatulong sa mga pamilya.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang nag-suggest yata through media, no?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I'm not sure kung talagang sinabi nila.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nakita ko lang sa media na sinasabi na BOC wants to auction it.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Tama.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang sagot ko naman kay Mr. Ted Filon is ayoko i-auction.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's either distractions, go back to sender,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: or ibigay sa DSWD para pamigay sa taong bayan ng libre.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: So ano na ang latest na nangyari?

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Ano na ang latest update sa bigas mismo?

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: In our opinion kasi, ngayon kasi tinitignan namin mabuti yung mga files.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May latest report ako, nandun din yata sa report na bibigay ko sa inyo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kaya ako pinahuli yan is umalis yung vessel nung September 18 sa Gensan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Akala ko tatakbo.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then now, there is a document now that shows a report from the vessel owner to the vessel agent

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that says that at 8.30 am on September 18,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the postcard vessel instructed na pumunta ang vessel to Gensan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Andito rin iyon.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's an email.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So ito we will supply to you.

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Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pakibigay na rin.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So ibig sabihin, medyo may good faith sila.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kasi natatrack naman yung vessel eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's an international tracking eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tapos meron naman nagpapuntang Gensan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: May humuli sa Gensan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But it doesn't mean na may foul play.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Kung yung cargo as declared in the SPIC is the same,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: it means walang kalokohan eh.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So maybe there is grounds for good faith.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But in case may kalokohan ngayon,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ang pinakamaganda i-seize yan at i-distribute sa taong bayan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Siguro the question is, bakit PPI ang consignee?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So yun yung...

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ang masagot ko naman, Mr. Chair, dyan is

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: from my investigation, although PPI is independent,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I do not run PPI on a day-to-day basis,

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: nor do I make pakialam in their operations

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: because I'm just an ex-officio nga.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But of course, nag-inimbestigahan ko rin sila.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Imagine, ako na nga yung ex-officio ng PPI.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Alam ko na PPI yan.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Alam ko PPI din yung consignee.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Ako pa rin ang pahinto.

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DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, is doing a good thing bad? It is not.

asr-006221
05:44:10.180 --> 05:44:12.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I did the right thing. Diba?

asr-006222
05:44:13.180 --> 05:44:17.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Because PPI, under explanation of PPI,

asr-006223
05:44:17.180 --> 05:44:20.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: that is a cancelled contract already.

asr-006224
05:44:20.180 --> 05:44:27.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Because that shipment should have left Vietnam by July 31.

asr-006225
05:44:27.180 --> 05:44:30.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But hindi nga naka-no. So it was never consummated.

asr-006226
05:44:30.180 --> 05:44:34.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Nor a single centavo was paid for the shipment.

asr-006227
05:44:34.180 --> 05:44:37.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So it is not...

asr-006228
05:44:37.180 --> 05:44:41.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Although it had a valid SPSIC, which I had cancelled.

asr-006229
05:44:41.180 --> 05:44:45.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Tingin ko yung shipper, for whatever reason,

asr-006230
05:44:45.180 --> 05:44:50.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but the shipper naman kasi is a very big international conglomerate eh.

asr-006231
05:44:50.180 --> 05:44:56.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: It's very big. Parang blue chip company yan.

asr-006232
05:44:56.180 --> 05:44:58.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Hindi naman gagawa ng kalokohan eh.

asr-006233
05:44:58.180 --> 05:44:58.920
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So...

asr-006234
05:44:59.640 --> 05:45:01.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Maybe it was a mistake

asr-006235
05:45:01.620 --> 05:45:02.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: na may valid SPSI.

asr-006236
05:45:03.080 --> 05:45:04.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: She nipped out pa rin nila.

asr-006237
05:45:05.840 --> 05:45:07.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But as far as the cargo is concerned,

asr-006238
05:45:08.200 --> 05:45:09.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: from my investigation,

asr-006239
05:45:09.540 --> 05:45:10.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: PPI doesn't own the cargo.

asr-006240
05:45:12.020 --> 05:45:13.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pwede naman may loko-loko

asr-006241
05:45:13.800 --> 05:45:15.540
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: sa isang bansa na padalahan ako

asr-006242
05:45:15.540 --> 05:45:16.340
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: ng cargo dito.

asr-006243
05:45:16.460 --> 05:45:19.120
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Lagay pangalan hon ninyo.

asr-006244
05:45:20.320 --> 05:45:21.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pero...

asr-006245
05:45:21.000 --> 05:45:23.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In other words, you're looking at

asr-006246
05:45:23.020 --> 05:45:25.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a smuggler who decided

asr-006247
05:45:25.480 --> 05:45:27.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to use PPI as cover

asr-006248
05:45:27.320 --> 05:45:29.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to bring in the

asr-006249
05:45:29.260 --> 05:45:31.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: PPI. Kasi naka-sako na

asr-006250
05:45:31.280 --> 05:45:33.660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: PPI. Kasi oo, yung consignee

asr-006251
05:45:33.660 --> 05:45:35.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: maliwanag po na PPI. Consignee is

asr-006252
05:45:35.240 --> 05:45:37.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: PPI and it was packed in PPI

asr-006253
05:45:37.600 --> 05:45:38.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sacks.

asr-006254
05:45:38.880 --> 05:45:41.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, yun.

asr-006255
05:45:41.480 --> 05:45:43.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, I hope you

asr-006256
05:45:43.200 --> 05:45:44.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: identify

asr-006257
05:45:44.740 --> 05:45:46.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if any,

asr-006258
05:45:46.380 --> 05:45:48.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sino ang

asr-006259
05:45:48.620 --> 05:45:51.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pumayag sa PPI kung mayroon man

asr-006260
05:45:51.300 --> 05:45:53.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na makipag-usap

asr-006261
05:45:54.680 --> 05:45:55.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dito at

asr-006262
05:45:55.420 --> 05:45:57.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nakumbinsi ito. I don't know.

asr-006263
05:45:57.480 --> 05:45:58.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I don't know.

asr-006264
05:45:58.840 --> 05:45:59.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But

asr-006265
05:45:59.060 --> 05:46:02.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yun ang concern natin dito.

asr-006266
05:46:02.800 --> 05:46:03.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi in the end,

asr-006267
05:46:04.720 --> 05:46:07.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the value is about

asr-006268
05:46:07.860 --> 05:46:09.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 400 million dollars.

asr-006269
05:46:09.560 --> 05:46:10.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 400 million pesos.

asr-006270
05:46:11.220 --> 05:46:12.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sorry. About

asr-006271
05:46:12.620 --> 05:46:15.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: $460

asr-006272
05:46:15.640 --> 05:46:17.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: per metric ton or something like that.

asr-006273
05:46:18.900 --> 05:46:19.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair,

asr-006274
05:46:20.700 --> 05:46:21.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: I believe

asr-006275
05:46:21.560 --> 05:46:23.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the DA and myself,

asr-006276
05:46:23.460 --> 05:46:25.740
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: including the ones involved

asr-006277
05:46:25.740 --> 05:46:28.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in DA, are willing to go to be subject

asr-006278
05:46:28.000 --> 05:46:28.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: to

asr-006279
05:46:29.060 --> 05:46:29.860
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: an inquiry

asr-006280
05:46:29.860 --> 05:46:32.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: by your choice,

asr-006281
05:46:32.740 --> 05:46:34.380
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the Senate's choice or whoever.

asr-006282
05:46:35.900 --> 05:46:37.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Isama na nyo yung PPI

asr-006283
05:46:37.220 --> 05:46:39.100
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: para ma-final matapos na to

asr-006284
05:46:39.100 --> 05:46:41.020
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at mahusgahan na kung kami may kasalanan,

asr-006285
05:46:41.080 --> 05:46:42.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: may kasalanan kami. Kung wala kami kasalanan,

asr-006286
05:46:43.080 --> 05:46:45.160
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: masabi na para matama at matigil na to.

asr-006287
05:46:45.840 --> 05:46:46.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Dahil

asr-006288
05:46:46.240 --> 05:46:49.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: as far as I'm concerned, we did the right

asr-006289
05:46:49.200 --> 05:46:50.220
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: thing and

asr-006290
05:46:50.220 --> 05:46:52.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung ganito ang treatment sa akin

asr-006291
05:46:52.900 --> 05:46:54.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: at tira sa akin for doing the right thing,

asr-006292
05:46:55.800 --> 05:46:56.940
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: well, ganun talaga ang buhay.

asr-006293
05:46:56.940 --> 05:46:57.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But then,

asr-006294
05:46:59.060 --> 05:47:02.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: lalaban-lalaban kami

asr-006295
05:47:02.040 --> 05:47:03.240
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: kung anong tama, Mr. Chair.

asr-006296
05:47:03.820 --> 05:47:05.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sir Kiko, I

asr-006297
05:47:05.240 --> 05:47:07.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: understand you fully. I went through

asr-006298
05:47:07.940 --> 05:47:09.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a similar experience.

asr-006299
05:47:10.160 --> 05:47:11.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I was, my

asr-006300
05:47:11.300 --> 05:47:14.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: NFA administrator was set up

asr-006301
05:47:14.040 --> 05:47:16.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and was

asr-006302
05:47:16.340 --> 05:47:17.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: fired. Oh no, and resigned.

asr-006303
05:47:18.620 --> 05:47:19.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: He was accused of extortion.

asr-006304
05:47:21.180 --> 05:47:22.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And he was a

asr-006305
05:47:22.060 --> 05:47:23.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: retired PMA

asr-006306
05:47:23.160 --> 05:47:28.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: graduate,

asr-006307
05:47:28.200 --> 05:47:29.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: class of,

asr-006308
05:47:30.720 --> 05:47:32.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I forget now which class,

asr-006309
05:47:33.100 --> 05:47:34.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 68, 69.

asr-006310
05:47:37.760 --> 05:47:40.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Traders accused him of extortion.

asr-006311
05:47:41.440 --> 05:47:42.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I heard

asr-006312
05:47:42.100 --> 05:47:43.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the voice,

asr-006313
05:47:44.880 --> 05:47:46.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: supposedly his voice.

asr-006314
05:47:47.600 --> 05:47:48.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: His English

asr-006315
05:47:48.460 --> 05:47:50.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is impeccable and the voice

asr-006316
05:47:50.140 --> 05:47:52.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that I heard was someone

asr-006317
05:47:52.040 --> 05:47:54.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: who was not him.

asr-006318
05:47:55.280 --> 05:47:55.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But

asr-006319
05:47:55.620 --> 05:47:57.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I asked him to stay on.

asr-006320
05:47:57.820 --> 05:47:58.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I said,

asr-006321
05:47:58.200 --> 05:48:00.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I'm going to back you up all the way.

asr-006322
05:48:00.740 --> 05:48:02.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I submitted a letter of resignation

asr-006323
05:48:02.640 --> 05:48:03.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to President Aquino.

asr-006324
05:48:04.900 --> 05:48:06.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I told President Aquino,

asr-006325
05:48:07.100 --> 05:48:08.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I am resigning,

asr-006326
05:48:08.720 --> 05:48:09.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I'm submitting my

asr-006327
05:48:09.760 --> 05:48:12.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: resignation letter because

asr-006328
05:48:12.260 --> 05:48:14.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I will defend my

asr-006329
05:48:14.080 --> 05:48:16.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: NFA administrator. And I don't

asr-006330
05:48:16.280 --> 05:48:18.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: want you to think, sir, that I'm defending him

asr-006331
05:48:18.360 --> 05:48:20.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because I'm interested in the position.

asr-006332
05:48:21.700 --> 05:48:21.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

asr-006333
05:48:22.380 --> 05:48:23.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but unfortunately,

asr-006334
05:48:24.120 --> 05:48:25.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because of the

asr-006335
05:48:25.780 --> 05:48:27.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: setup,

asr-006336
05:48:28.200 --> 05:48:30.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: he resigned. He said,

asr-006337
05:48:30.100 --> 05:48:31.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I don't need this.

asr-006338
05:48:32.240 --> 05:48:33.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

asr-006339
05:48:33.520 --> 05:48:36.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and some of the old hands in NFA

asr-006340
05:48:36.780 --> 05:48:38.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and some of the old hands in the

asr-006341
05:48:39.080 --> 05:48:40.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the DA know this.

asr-006342
05:48:42.780 --> 05:48:43.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: He was,

asr-006343
05:48:44.380 --> 05:48:45.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: he didn't.

asr-006344
05:48:45.660 --> 05:48:46.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

asr-006345
05:48:47.200 --> 05:48:48.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what you're going through,

asr-006346
05:48:48.640 --> 05:48:49.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I went through.

asr-006347
05:48:50.420 --> 05:48:51.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And for what?

asr-006348
05:48:51.460 --> 05:48:53.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because we were going after smugglers

asr-006349
05:48:53.840 --> 05:48:57.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and traders who were

asr-006350
05:48:58.200 --> 05:49:00.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: messing up our rice supply.

asr-006351
05:49:00.700 --> 05:49:01.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We went after them.

asr-006352
05:49:02.560 --> 05:49:04.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, I can understand where you're coming from.

asr-006353
05:49:04.840 --> 05:49:05.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But, of course,

asr-006354
05:49:06.140 --> 05:49:08.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as you said, if there's going to be

asr-006355
05:49:08.720 --> 05:49:10.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: an investigation, we'd like to get the side of

asr-006356
05:49:10.680 --> 05:49:11.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: PPI,

asr-006357
05:49:12.100 --> 05:49:14.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: PPI, yeah, planters products

asr-006358
05:49:14.980 --> 05:49:16.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that they can

asr-006359
05:49:16.920 --> 05:49:17.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: clarify this.

asr-006360
05:49:18.200 --> 05:49:20.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just like to reiterate my

asr-006361
05:49:20.740 --> 05:49:21.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: request.

asr-006362
05:49:21.380 --> 05:49:22.280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kanina sumagot si

asr-006363
05:49:22.280 --> 05:49:25.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Secretary Kiko na tutulungan tayo kunin

asr-006364
05:49:25.620 --> 05:49:27.520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: yung 10-year record

asr-006365
05:49:27.520 --> 05:49:28.080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na,

asr-006366
05:49:28.200 --> 05:49:30.760
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ng rice importations ng PPI.

asr-006367
05:49:30.760 --> 05:49:35.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Alam ko na pinaninindigan nila na private corporations sila.

asr-006368
05:49:35.240 --> 05:49:37.280
Senator Imee R. Marcos: At hirap na hirap ako kumuha ng papeles

asr-006369
05:49:37.280 --> 05:49:39.560
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kinanay dati kay RAM.

asr-006370
05:49:39.560 --> 05:49:40.960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kaya patulong na lang po.

asr-006371
05:49:41.860 --> 05:49:42.460
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yes, ma'am.

asr-006372
05:49:42.460 --> 05:49:44.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, kami mismo,

asr-006373
05:49:44.440 --> 05:49:47.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: we have the records sa BPI, Bureau of Plants.

asr-006374
05:49:47.260 --> 05:49:48.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So, we bigay naman sa inyo.

asr-006375
05:49:48.280 --> 05:49:50.140
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: And from what I understand, they only started

asr-006376
05:49:50.140 --> 05:49:51.800
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: importation two years ago, Mr. Chair.

asr-006377
05:49:52.940 --> 05:49:53.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: That seems clear.

asr-006378
05:49:55.100 --> 05:49:55.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

asr-006379
05:49:56.720 --> 05:49:57.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sige.

asr-006380
05:49:57.280 --> 05:49:58.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you for the

asr-006381
05:49:58.200 --> 05:50:00.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: clarification. And we have received

asr-006382
05:50:00.200 --> 05:50:02.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the documents

asr-006383
05:50:02.860 --> 05:50:05.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that you were pointing to earlier.

asr-006384
05:50:07.960 --> 05:50:08.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just one,

asr-006385
05:50:08.960 --> 05:50:10.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: maybe one last question

asr-006386
05:50:10.940 --> 05:50:11.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on my end.

asr-006387
05:50:14.700 --> 05:50:16.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Would you have the data on

asr-006388
05:50:16.500 --> 05:50:17.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers' incomes?

asr-006389
05:50:18.280 --> 05:50:20.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What is the income

asr-006390
05:50:20.800 --> 05:50:21.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the farmer

asr-006391
05:50:21.580 --> 05:50:22.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: today?

asr-006392
05:50:24.500 --> 05:50:26.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: On average, across the board?

asr-006393
05:50:27.160 --> 05:50:27.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I recall,

asr-006394
05:50:28.200 --> 05:50:30.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at some point, it was about ₱14,000.

asr-006395
05:50:33.320 --> 05:50:34.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ₱11,000?

asr-006396
05:50:34.280 --> 05:50:37.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: A month?

asr-006397
05:50:37.960 --> 05:50:38.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

asr-006398
05:50:38.960 --> 05:50:40.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: A month?

asr-006399
05:50:40.460 --> 05:50:44.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah, ₱14,000 a month across the board.

asr-006400
05:50:44.360 --> 05:50:45.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What is it now?

asr-006401
05:50:45.260 --> 05:50:48.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Unfortunately, we don't have the data as of now.

asr-006402
05:50:48.760 --> 05:50:49.760
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But we...

asr-006403
05:50:51.500 --> 05:50:53.420
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Sandali, baka meron pala.

asr-006404
05:50:58.200 --> 05:51:01.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I think something of this...

asr-006405
05:51:01.280 --> 05:51:06.460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: According to the data ng PIDs at saka ng PSA,

asr-006406
05:51:06.580 --> 05:51:08.920
Senator Imee R. Marcos: somewhere between 13 and 15 pa rin eh.

asr-006407
05:51:09.740 --> 05:51:12.660
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Although, may sinasabi sa World Bank,

asr-006408
05:51:12.820 --> 05:51:13.680
Senator Imee R. Marcos: mabasa ko yun eh.

asr-006409
05:51:13.820 --> 05:51:17.080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Maski sa PRDP, dun sa report nila,

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05:51:17.620 --> 05:51:20.580
Senator Imee R. Marcos: that there's been a boosting of real income

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05:51:20.580 --> 05:51:22.640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: by 20 to 26 percent.

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05:51:23.100 --> 05:51:24.420
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Pero dun sa PIDs,

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05:51:24.420 --> 05:51:25.840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ganun pa rin eh, yung 14.

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05:51:26.240 --> 05:51:27.960
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 14, 6, 5, 6.

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05:51:28.200 --> 05:51:30.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 14, 6, 5, 6.

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05:51:30.880 --> 05:51:35.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 14, 605 a month.

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05:51:36.700 --> 05:51:38.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And this is...

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05:51:38.200 --> 05:51:39.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of course, it varies, no?

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05:51:39.760 --> 05:51:41.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Depending on the subsector.

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05:51:41.800 --> 05:51:43.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mas mababa ata sa coconut,

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05:51:43.640 --> 05:51:44.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mas mataas ang rice,

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05:51:45.640 --> 05:51:49.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pinakamataas ata ang high value crops.

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05:51:51.040 --> 05:51:52.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But anyway...

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05:51:52.880 --> 05:51:54.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bakit dun sa PRDP mas mataas?

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05:51:54.620 --> 05:51:56.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mas mataas.

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05:51:56.380 --> 05:51:57.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

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05:51:58.200 --> 05:51:59.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

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05:51:59.880 --> 05:52:02.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I think dapat pag-aralan ng DA, no?

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05:52:04.520 --> 05:52:07.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because in other countries,

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05:52:07.400 --> 05:52:07.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they have a...

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05:52:08.600 --> 05:52:09.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's a benchmark eh.

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05:52:10.280 --> 05:52:11.060
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair?

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05:52:11.120 --> 05:52:11.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, sir.

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05:52:11.400 --> 05:52:12.580
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: We have the data pala.

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05:52:14.100 --> 05:52:17.600
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: There's a 6.5 percent average yearly increase

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05:52:17.600 --> 05:52:19.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: in the daily wages of agricultural workers

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05:52:19.900 --> 05:52:21.440
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: from 2020 to 2024.

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05:52:22.260 --> 05:52:24.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: But ang average daily basic pay

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05:52:24.820 --> 05:52:27.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: is 387.90 pesos.

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05:52:27.260 --> 05:52:27.880
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So for around...

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05:52:27.880 --> 05:52:31.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 11,300 plus lang yun eh.

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05:52:31.860 --> 05:52:33.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: For fishing and aquaculture,

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05:52:33.700 --> 05:52:34.700
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mas mataas ng konti.

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05:52:34.820 --> 05:52:37.260
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: 412.27.

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05:52:37.540 --> 05:52:38.900
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: So almost 12,000.

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05:52:39.560 --> 05:52:39.680
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Yun.

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05:52:40.960 --> 05:52:43.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: As of April 2026.

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05:52:43.520 --> 05:52:45.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, I think,

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05:52:46.120 --> 05:52:49.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi naman ang DepDev,

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05:52:49.600 --> 05:52:51.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you need around 13,000, di ba?

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05:52:52.280 --> 05:52:52.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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05:52:52.580 --> 05:52:55.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: As a minimum.

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05:52:55.840 --> 05:52:56.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Minimum.

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05:52:56.200 --> 05:52:56.520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: 13?

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05:52:56.760 --> 05:52:57.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang baba lang.

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05:52:57.600 --> 05:52:59.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 13,000 a month as minimum

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05:52:59.500 --> 05:53:01.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in terms of the ability to

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05:53:01.920 --> 05:53:05.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: afford the most basic needs, no?

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05:53:05.340 --> 05:53:05.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yeah.

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05:53:06.160 --> 05:53:07.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It used to be, what?

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05:53:08.220 --> 05:53:10.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

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05:53:10.660 --> 05:53:11.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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05:53:11.420 --> 05:53:13.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mas ng konti, pero mababa pa rin.

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05:53:13.480 --> 05:53:14.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

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05:53:14.720 --> 05:53:16.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

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05:53:17.020 --> 05:53:17.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Which is to say,

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05:53:18.240 --> 05:53:19.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that the farmers are still,

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05:53:20.320 --> 05:53:21.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know, are still...

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05:53:21.580 --> 05:53:23.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, the data shows it, no?

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05:53:23.120 --> 05:53:25.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 27 percent poverty levels

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05:53:25.280 --> 05:53:27.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the agriculture.

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05:53:27.600 --> 05:53:29.280
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair, that's why

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05:53:29.280 --> 05:53:31.980
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: the poverty incidence is still 27 percent.

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05:53:32.680 --> 05:53:35.660
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Pero ang differential lang ngayon

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05:53:35.660 --> 05:53:36.180
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and before,

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05:53:36.400 --> 05:53:37.840
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: even with PSA accounts,

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05:53:37.980 --> 05:53:38.820
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: mas maraming ngayon

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05:53:38.820 --> 05:53:40.500
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: farm workers

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05:53:40.500 --> 05:53:42.000
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and fisher folks.

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05:53:42.180 --> 05:53:42.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you.

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05:53:42.360 --> 05:53:42.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

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05:53:43.120 --> 05:53:45.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, so that's important

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05:53:45.280 --> 05:53:46.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because in the end,

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05:53:47.360 --> 05:53:48.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I think all interventions

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05:53:48.480 --> 05:53:51.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: should have

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05:53:51.560 --> 05:53:54.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a clear-cut benchmark

asr-006487
05:53:54.040 --> 05:53:55.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of what are we working on, di ba?

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05:53:56.040 --> 05:53:56.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sabi ko nga,

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05:53:56.560 --> 05:53:57.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: anong sa'y sayon,

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05:53:57.600 --> 05:54:01.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: anong 200 plus billion na budget ng agri

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05:54:01.360 --> 05:54:02.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kung year-on-year,

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05:54:02.840 --> 05:54:03.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di naman,

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05:54:03.960 --> 05:54:06.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mahirap pa rin ng farmer.

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05:54:06.700 --> 05:54:08.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I said this with NIA,

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05:54:10.200 --> 05:54:11.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi ko sa budget hearing ng NIA,

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05:54:12.100 --> 05:54:13.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dapat lahat tayo,

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05:54:13.820 --> 05:54:15.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: e tinututukan natin

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05:54:15.100 --> 05:54:16.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na kumikita ang farmer.

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05:54:16.920 --> 05:54:19.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dahil pagka wala ng farmer,

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05:54:19.940 --> 05:54:21.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: wala na rin tayong lahat trabaho rito

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05:54:21.540 --> 05:54:22.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa DA.

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05:54:23.620 --> 05:54:23.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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05:54:24.820 --> 05:54:25.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kung baga,

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05:54:25.440 --> 05:54:27.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pag-ising natin sa umaga,

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05:54:27.300 --> 05:54:28.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pag-tulog natin sa gabi,

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05:54:29.280 --> 05:54:30.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: e dapat farmers,

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05:54:30.900 --> 05:54:31.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers,

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05:54:32.120 --> 05:54:33.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: welfare,

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05:54:34.720 --> 05:54:35.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: income,

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05:54:36.100 --> 05:54:36.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba?

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05:54:36.480 --> 05:54:37.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Viability,

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05:54:37.300 --> 05:54:38.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: profitability,

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05:54:38.260 --> 05:54:40.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang tinutuhog natin

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05:54:40.940 --> 05:54:42.900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: o tinatahak natin

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05:54:42.900 --> 05:54:44.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at isinusulong natin.

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05:54:44.920 --> 05:54:45.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi nga,

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05:54:45.400 --> 05:54:46.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa totoo lang,

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05:54:46.220 --> 05:54:48.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pag hindi na nagsasaka

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05:54:48.260 --> 05:54:49.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang mga magsasaka,

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05:54:49.660 --> 05:54:50.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lahat tayo dito,

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05:54:50.660 --> 05:54:51.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: wala nang trabaho.

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05:54:52.340 --> 05:54:52.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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05:54:52.880 --> 05:54:54.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Siguro ako meron pa dahil,

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05:54:55.000 --> 05:54:57.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pero wala na akong chairmanship

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05:54:57.160 --> 05:54:58.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng Agriculture Committee

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05:54:58.520 --> 05:55:00.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil wala nang mga magsasaka.

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05:55:01.120 --> 05:55:01.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

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05:55:01.600 --> 05:55:03.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I think that should be fundamental.

asr-006529
05:55:04.740 --> 05:55:05.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Benchmarking incomes.

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05:55:07.600 --> 05:55:09.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because precisely,

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05:55:10.060 --> 05:55:11.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we want the next generation

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05:55:11.940 --> 05:55:13.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of Filipinos

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05:55:13.640 --> 05:55:14.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to consider farming.

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05:55:15.160 --> 05:55:16.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the only way

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05:55:16.100 --> 05:55:17.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they will consider it

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05:55:17.200 --> 05:55:20.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and not consider

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05:55:20.340 --> 05:55:22.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: another career

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05:55:22.780 --> 05:55:23.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is because it pays.

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05:55:25.140 --> 05:55:25.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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05:55:25.340 --> 05:55:26.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It addresses

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05:55:27.160 --> 05:55:28.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the bottom line

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05:55:28.480 --> 05:55:30.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of day-to-day sustenance.

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05:55:31.080 --> 05:55:31.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Eh kung ganun,

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05:55:32.500 --> 05:55:32.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba?

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05:55:34.200 --> 05:55:36.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bakit mag-iisip

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05:55:36.120 --> 05:55:36.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mag-farming

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05:55:36.680 --> 05:55:38.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang ating mga kabataan

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05:55:38.840 --> 05:55:40.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kung meron ng

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05:55:40.180 --> 05:55:42.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: vow of poverty pala?

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05:55:43.000 --> 05:55:44.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Eh mag-call center na lang ako

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05:55:44.860 --> 05:55:46.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: o mag-ibang bansa ako

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05:55:46.920 --> 05:55:47.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or whatever.

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05:55:49.320 --> 05:55:49.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

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05:55:50.140 --> 05:55:51.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and they keep saying,

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05:55:51.120 --> 05:55:52.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: how do you make farming sexy?

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05:55:53.580 --> 05:55:55.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You provide for the bottom line.

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05:55:55.460 --> 05:55:56.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Make it,

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05:55:56.000 --> 05:55:57.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: make it pay.

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05:55:57.160 --> 05:55:59.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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05:56:00.620 --> 05:56:01.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dapat,

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05:56:01.640 --> 05:56:02.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dapat maganda

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05:56:02.660 --> 05:56:04.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang sinasahod

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05:56:04.220 --> 05:56:06.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: o kaya kinikita

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05:56:06.540 --> 05:56:08.380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para maging sexy.

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05:56:08.700 --> 05:56:09.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: There's no other way.

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05:56:10.940 --> 05:56:11.840
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Mr. Chair.

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05:56:12.120 --> 05:56:12.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, sir.

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05:56:12.640 --> 05:56:12.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, ma'am.

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05:56:12.980 --> 05:56:14.520
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I just like to

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05:56:14.520 --> 05:56:15.460
Senator Imee R. Marcos: to

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05:56:15.460 --> 05:56:17.200
Senator Imee R. Marcos: extend

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05:56:17.200 --> 05:56:18.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: my appreciation

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05:56:18.500 --> 05:56:19.600
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for your observation

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05:56:19.600 --> 05:56:20.440
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and intervention

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05:56:20.440 --> 05:56:21.160
Senator Imee R. Marcos: regarding

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05:56:21.760 --> 05:56:23.020
Senator Imee R. Marcos: farmers' income.

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05:56:23.300 --> 05:56:24.340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: I have disputed

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05:56:24.340 --> 05:56:25.740
Senator Imee R. Marcos: for a long, long time

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05:56:25.740 --> 05:56:26.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the continued

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05:56:26.880 --> 05:56:27.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: emphasis

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05:56:27.880 --> 05:56:30.220
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on production numbers,

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05:56:30.220 --> 05:56:31.380
Senator Imee R. Marcos: the projection

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05:56:31.380 --> 05:56:32.980
Senator Imee R. Marcos: on number of workshops

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05:56:32.980 --> 05:56:33.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: and training,

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05:56:33.880 --> 05:56:35.880
Senator Imee R. Marcos: number of beneficiaries,

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05:56:35.880 --> 05:56:38.080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: number of seeds distributed,

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05:56:38.080 --> 05:56:40.340
Senator Imee R. Marcos: number of mechanical dryers.

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05:56:40.340 --> 05:56:42.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hindi po yun ang target,

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05:56:42.140 --> 05:56:43.640
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang ending target po,

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05:56:43.640 --> 05:56:46.180
Senator Imee R. Marcos: dapat yung farmers' income,

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05:56:46.180 --> 05:56:48.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: how much money is actually

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05:56:48.140 --> 05:56:50.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: in the pockets of farmers.

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05:56:50.140 --> 05:56:52.140
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Kung yun ang tutumbukin natin,

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05:56:52.140 --> 05:56:53.720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: makakasabi tayo

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05:56:53.720 --> 05:56:55.720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: na nagtagumpay ang DA.

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05:56:55.720 --> 05:56:56.720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Hanggat hindi na

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05:56:56.720 --> 05:56:57.720
Senator Imee R. Marcos: dodoble yan

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05:56:57.720 --> 05:56:58.700
Senator Imee R. Marcos: o triple pa

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05:56:58.700 --> 05:56:59.500
Senator Imee R. Marcos: kasi yun na nga

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05:56:59.500 --> 05:57:00.620
Senator Imee R. Marcos: ang sinasabing ngayon,

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05:57:00.980 --> 05:57:02.240
Senator Imee R. Marcos: wala tayong nagawa.

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05:57:02.540 --> 05:57:03.080
Senator Imee R. Marcos: Yun lang po.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, if I may add na rin,

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05:57:05.720 --> 05:57:06.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: naalala ko

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05:57:06.980 --> 05:57:07.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and

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05:57:07.280 --> 05:57:08.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the

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05:57:08.860 --> 05:57:10.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Philippine Coconut Authority

asr-006608
05:57:10.580 --> 05:57:11.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bureaucracy

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05:57:11.280 --> 05:57:12.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: employees,

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05:57:12.980 --> 05:57:13.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: staff,

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05:57:13.380 --> 05:57:13.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or here,

asr-006612
05:57:14.420 --> 05:57:15.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I said this,

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05:57:15.460 --> 05:57:16.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the coconut farmers

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05:57:16.580 --> 05:57:17.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then,

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05:57:17.340 --> 05:57:18.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and I think it still

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05:57:18.860 --> 05:57:19.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: holds true today,

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05:57:19.700 --> 05:57:20.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: are the poorest

asr-006618
05:57:20.260 --> 05:57:21.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of all the farmers.

asr-006619
05:57:22.100 --> 05:57:23.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The coconut farmers.

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05:57:23.360 --> 05:57:24.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I said this,

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05:57:24.160 --> 05:57:24.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what's

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05:57:24.460 --> 05:57:26.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because the programs

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05:57:26.000 --> 05:57:26.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the PCC,

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05:57:26.720 --> 05:57:28.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they are still

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05:57:28.580 --> 05:57:29.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the programs now,

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05:57:29.520 --> 05:57:30.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: fertilization.

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05:57:31.060 --> 05:57:31.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Why?

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05:57:31.900 --> 05:57:33.180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because if you fertilize

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05:57:33.180 --> 05:57:34.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: after two years,

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05:57:34.220 --> 05:57:35.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you will double the yield.

asr-006631
05:57:35.640 --> 05:57:35.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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05:57:36.220 --> 05:57:37.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So bakit may importante

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05:57:37.660 --> 05:57:38.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung double yield?

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05:57:38.660 --> 05:57:38.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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05:57:39.400 --> 05:57:40.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mahalaga yun.

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05:57:41.260 --> 05:57:42.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Poorest farmers kasi sila.

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05:57:42.960 --> 05:57:44.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You want to double their yield.

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05:57:45.720 --> 05:57:46.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Replanting.

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05:57:46.720 --> 05:57:47.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because,

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05:57:47.900 --> 05:57:49.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ilang percent na ba

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05:57:49.300 --> 05:57:50.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng ating coconut

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05:57:50.320 --> 05:57:52.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: senile?

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05:57:52.800 --> 05:57:53.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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05:57:53.140 --> 05:57:53.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Coconut trees.

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05:57:53.860 --> 05:57:54.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is it still

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05:57:54.500 --> 05:57:55.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 70%?

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05:57:55.720 --> 05:57:56.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 70%?

asr-006648
05:57:56.720 --> 05:57:58.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So senile.

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05:57:59.000 --> 05:57:59.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun ang tawag dun.

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05:57:59.800 --> 05:57:59.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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05:58:00.060 --> 05:58:01.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So we need to replant.

asr-006652
05:58:02.080 --> 05:58:02.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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05:58:02.900 --> 05:58:03.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then,

asr-006654
05:58:03.740 --> 05:58:07.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and then you need

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05:58:07.340 --> 05:58:08.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to intercrop.

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05:58:08.920 --> 05:58:09.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bakit?

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05:58:09.740 --> 05:58:10.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi nga,

asr-006658
05:58:10.500 --> 05:58:11.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dagdag kita,

asr-006659
05:58:12.120 --> 05:58:13.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the coconut

asr-006660
05:58:13.560 --> 05:58:15.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is a social plant.

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05:58:15.720 --> 05:58:16.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It loves to have

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05:58:16.700 --> 05:58:18.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: other plants around it

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05:58:18.220 --> 05:58:20.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for yields to improve.

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05:58:21.120 --> 05:58:21.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And so,

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05:58:22.400 --> 05:58:23.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: intercropping,

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05:58:24.680 --> 05:58:25.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: fertilization,

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05:58:26.160 --> 05:58:26.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: replanting.

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05:58:26.720 --> 05:58:27.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun yung tatlong

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05:58:27.780 --> 05:58:29.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: major interventions

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05:58:29.540 --> 05:58:30.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng PCA.

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05:58:30.760 --> 05:58:31.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tinanong ko sila.

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05:58:32.200 --> 05:58:33.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So after all those

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05:58:33.240 --> 05:58:33.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: interventions,

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05:58:34.580 --> 05:58:35.500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ano nang magiging

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05:58:35.500 --> 05:58:36.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: income ng farmer?

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05:58:41.400 --> 05:58:42.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Times two,

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05:58:42.360 --> 05:58:42.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mr. Chair.

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05:58:43.680 --> 05:58:44.560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, only for,

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05:58:44.680 --> 05:58:46.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mas mataas dapat.

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05:58:47.380 --> 05:58:48.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero hindi nila masagot.

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05:58:52.680 --> 05:58:53.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

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05:58:54.180 --> 05:58:55.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: since all your

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05:58:55.820 --> 05:58:56.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: interventions are

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05:58:56.720 --> 05:58:57.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meant to increase

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05:58:57.480 --> 05:58:58.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the income of your

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05:58:58.360 --> 05:58:59.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: coconut farmer

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05:58:59.400 --> 05:59:00.880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because he is

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05:59:00.880 --> 05:59:01.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the poorest farmer,

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05:59:02.160 --> 05:59:03.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: why don't we know

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05:59:03.020 --> 05:59:04.680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what the income

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05:59:04.680 --> 05:59:05.600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will be after

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05:59:05.600 --> 05:59:08.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the targeted incomes

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05:59:08.260 --> 05:59:10.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will be after

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05:59:10.140 --> 05:59:10.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your interventions?

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05:59:12.640 --> 05:59:13.240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I think

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05:59:13.240 --> 05:59:14.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that's a paradigm

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05:59:14.640 --> 05:59:16.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: shift that requires

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05:59:16.280 --> 05:59:18.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: everyone in the

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05:59:18.960 --> 05:59:19.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bureaucracy of the

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05:59:19.740 --> 05:59:20.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: department to

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05:59:20.540 --> 05:59:22.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: think about

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05:59:22.040 --> 05:59:22.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as you do your

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05:59:22.780 --> 05:59:23.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: interventions.

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05:59:24.020 --> 05:59:24.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

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05:59:24.600 --> 05:59:26.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ano ang kinikita ngayon?

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05:59:26.720 --> 05:59:28.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ano ang kikitain

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05:59:28.760 --> 05:59:30.060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pagkatapos ng interventions?

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05:59:31.240 --> 05:59:31.980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I remember

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05:59:31.980 --> 05:59:32.840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: when we had to do

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05:59:32.840 --> 05:59:33.800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: our computations,

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05:59:34.560 --> 05:59:35.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it was about

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05:59:35.740 --> 05:59:37.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kikita na ng about

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05:59:37.760 --> 05:59:41.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 250,000 a year.

asr-006714
05:59:41.800 --> 05:59:42.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tama ba yun?

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05:59:42.400 --> 05:59:42.860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nga ganon.

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05:59:43.260 --> 05:59:43.780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Do-doble.

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05:59:43.900 --> 05:59:45.040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi noon, 15,000.

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05:59:47.200 --> 05:59:47.760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

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05:59:48.360 --> 05:59:48.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So I hope,

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05:59:49.240 --> 05:59:49.520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know,

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05:59:49.900 --> 05:59:51.200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we will end with this note.

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05:59:52.460 --> 05:59:53.640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Let's put together

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05:59:53.640 --> 05:59:55.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that intervention

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05:59:55.080 --> 05:59:56.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that we now address

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05:59:56.340 --> 05:59:56.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: across the country.

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05:59:56.720 --> 05:59:57.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So subsectors,

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05:59:58.360 --> 05:59:58.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: di ba?

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05:59:58.640 --> 05:59:59.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The benchmark.

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06:00:00.000 --> 06:00:01.320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Benchmarking of incomes.

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06:00:01.960 --> 06:00:05.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: When I was in China in 2012,

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06:00:07.000 --> 06:00:09.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: their historical data is,

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06:00:09.580 --> 06:00:13.360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in 1979, the farmer's income was 179 yuan,

asr-006733
06:00:13.740 --> 06:00:16.220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or 180 yuan a month.

asr-006734
06:00:16.340 --> 06:00:18.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now, it's 7,000 yuan a month.

asr-006735
06:00:19.100 --> 06:00:21.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So it was pretty clear that was 2012.

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06:00:23.380 --> 06:00:28.540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Vietnam, when I spoke with the Ministry of Agriculture of Vietnam

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06:00:28.540 --> 06:00:32.580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: during the, this was also when I was Food Security Secretary,

asr-006738
06:00:32.800 --> 06:00:33.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that was 15 years ago,

asr-006739
06:00:34.360 --> 06:00:35.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they had targets.

asr-006740
06:00:36.000 --> 06:00:42.140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The per capita income of our farmers was $500 per capita.

asr-006741
06:00:42.500 --> 06:00:45.740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It is now $900 in the next 10 years.

asr-006742
06:00:45.740 --> 06:00:48.660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It will be $2,000 per capita.

asr-006743
06:00:49.780 --> 06:00:50.620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So something like that.

asr-006744
06:00:51.080 --> 06:00:52.460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So benchmark na naman ang income.

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06:00:53.580 --> 06:00:56.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And that should be, I think, something that before you,

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06:00:56.940 --> 06:00:59.400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: before you leave the bureaucracy,

asr-006747
06:00:59.620 --> 06:01:02.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or if you're reappointed by the next administration,

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06:01:03.120 --> 06:01:04.160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I hope,

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06:01:04.440 --> 06:01:08.020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sec. Kiko, you can do that.

asr-006750
06:01:08.620 --> 06:01:12.420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Come up with the benchmarking of incomes across subsectors

asr-006751
06:01:12.420 --> 06:01:14.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that we know where we are

asr-006752
06:01:14.960 --> 06:01:17.000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and we know where we want to go

asr-006753
06:01:17.000 --> 06:01:21.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with respect to farmers' income

asr-006754
06:01:21.480 --> 06:01:24.960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and yung kita nila and yung income nila.

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06:01:25.800 --> 06:01:26.620
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Mr. Chair?

asr-006756
06:01:26.940 --> 06:01:29.040
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Thank you for your insights and your guidance

asr-006757
06:01:29.040 --> 06:01:31.200
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and we will proceed accordingly

asr-006758
06:01:31.200 --> 06:01:32.960
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: and follow your lead.

asr-006759
06:01:33.520 --> 06:01:34.360
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Maganda ho yun.

asr-006760
06:01:35.400 --> 06:01:38.640
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: Honestly, hindi ko masyadong tugunan ng pansin

asr-006761
06:01:38.640 --> 06:01:40.560
DA Secretary Francisco P. Tiu Laurel Jr.: but we will get you on to it.

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06:01:42.180 --> 06:01:43.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you very much.

asr-006763
06:01:43.480 --> 06:01:45.120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, before we wrap up,

asr-006764
06:01:46.220 --> 06:01:47.940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: just for the record,

asr-006765
06:01:48.060 --> 06:01:52.480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: please comply with all the requirements of the DBM

asr-006766
06:01:52.480 --> 06:01:54.820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for your submissions.

asr-006767
06:01:56.940 --> 06:02:01.440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that we can...

asr-006768
06:02:01.440 --> 06:02:08.300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that the funds can be released for this year.

asr-006769
06:02:09.300 --> 06:02:12.720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And subject to the submission of all the requested documents

asr-006770
06:02:12.720 --> 06:02:17.280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of our members of the committee in the Senate,

asr-006771
06:02:18.200 --> 06:02:22.100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the budget of the DA, OSEC,

asr-006772
06:02:22.100 --> 06:02:26.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: together with the attached agencies and corporations,

asr-006773
06:02:26.940 --> 06:02:29.340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: again, subject to the submissions as requested,

asr-006774
06:02:30.160 --> 06:02:33.080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is deemed submitted for consideration of the plenary.

asr-006775
06:02:37.400 --> 06:02:41.260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you, Secretary Kiko and the DA family.

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06:02:42.060 --> 06:02:44.920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The hearing of Subcommittee G is hereby suspended.

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06:02:45.400 --> 06:02:46.700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maraming salamat. Magandang hapon.