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House Committee on Appropriations · August 24, 2026

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PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

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24 months or 2 years. But, uh, even though Virac radar is not functional, uh, the Bicol Region is not completely blind when it comes to, uh, the availability of data because there are redundant systems. Like, we have radar in Laoang, Northern Samar, in Daet, Camarines Norte, and even Masbate, we have radar.

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

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So, uh, these three operational radars actually cover, uh, the area. Uh, yes, of course, we hope the Virac radar will be operationalized. Um, if not next year, at least we are confident by 2028 it will be operational.

Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

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Ah, siguro kasi kinaklaro lang natin kasi matagal na po ito. Siyempre, ginastusan na rin po ito.

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So, ang nangyari kasi,

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Parang, ah,

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Nagiging view deck, viewing station na lang po.

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ng mga, ano natin doon, mga

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turista eh.

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So, nakikita po na nakatiwangwang po yun.

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So, alam naman natin

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na Catanduanes na kami talagang

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point of

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origin

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ng ating mga bagyo. So, siyempre,

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kami, alam naman natin

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na minsan, doon kumukuha

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pa nga dati, yung data

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sa Japan, minsan doon

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kumukuha sila.

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So, kaya yun,

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itanong natin,

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kasi marami na po, nagtatanong

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sa amin, ano ba yan? Talagang

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pabayaan na ba yan? O gagawin pa ba yan?

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So,

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narinig ko,

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alam naman siguro, narinig dito

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ng mga taga sa amin,

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na maibabalik

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ng operation

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nito by

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next year.

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Okay. Thank you.

Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

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Thank you for that answer,

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Madam Chair.

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So, Madam Chair,

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According to the PSA, the Bicol Region

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GDP

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growth

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ay, uh,

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GDP grew

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by only 0.5%

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in 2025.

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The lowest growth among all

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regional

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economies in the country,

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taking a closer look,

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agriculture, fisheries, and

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forestry sector,

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contracted by

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2.9%,

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specifically

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fisheries declined by

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10.7%.

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So, medyo nakakapagtaka po ito

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dahil ang Bicol ay

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napapaligiran po

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ng mayamang

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fishing ground at merong

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significant potential para sa

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aquaculture.

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However, these natural

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advantages are not

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being translated into a bigger

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share of our economy.

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So,

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Sa Catanduanes naman po,

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tumaas man po ang fisheries production

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in 2025, pero

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mababa pa rin.

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Mababa pa rin po ang contribution

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ito sa economic

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ekonomiya ng probinsya.

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Given this, my question,

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Madam Chair,

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where is the bottleneck in realizing

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this potential, and has there

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been effort from the

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DOST

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through its Philippine Council

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for Agriculture,

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Aquatic and Natural Resources

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Research and Development,

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PCAARRD, and other

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relevant agencies and programs

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to develop fisheries

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and aquaculture in

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Catanduanes and the whole Bicol Region?

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Most importantly,

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what has this

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intervention achieved?

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what measurable improvement

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have we seen in

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production, income, jobs

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and/or

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value adding?

Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

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Madam Chair,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

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Madam Chair, may I request the Director

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of PCAARRD to

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respond to the question?

DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora

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Thank you,

DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora

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Secretary.

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Your Honor, PCAARRD is

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presently implementing several projects

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on aquaculture and marine resources

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and some of those

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are relevant to the situation in Catanduanes.

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As of now, one of the

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biggest projects of PCAARRD is

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actually on abaca, and Catanduanes

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State University is heavily involved in this particular endeavor.

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In terms of the aquatic resources, we have two divisions working on it.

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One is inland aquatic resources which are dealing with freshwater aquaculture species and marine resources.

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So what we are going to do is we are going to look at the different programs that we have

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and, uh, probably develop new programs that are targeting the needs of Catanduanes.

DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora

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At present, there are several technologies being rolled out through the different regional offices and partner universities

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and we are hoping that we will be able to facilitate the process by identifying the typical intervention that should be done.

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It's not only about the technology, it's also in terms of the technology transfer bottleneck.

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In some cases, we need support from local government units

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and also other departments of the government.

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For example, the Department of Agriculture under the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources.

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But we will make it a point that we are going to review the present initiatives that we have

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and have it further enhanced in order to address the needs of the province.

DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

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Kasi sa ngayon, Mr. Chair, eh parang wala pa tayong nakikita roon.

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Kaya sabi ko nga, ito ngang 2027,

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what fisheries and aquaculture programs and projects are proposed

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And what measurable result do we expect?

DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora

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We are going to explore the possibility of expanding the Tilapia Program for Inland Aquatic Resources

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and also other marine resources that are available in the province.

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Uh, there are several initiatives being undertaken by PCAARRD

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involving the other provinces, and based on the experience that we have

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obtained from those pilot testing,

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then we are going to implement it also in Catanduanes.

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But we will be closely coordinating with Catanduanes State University

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because they are part of our network

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and they are coordinating with our regional consortium.

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Kaya po naitanong ko ito kasi ako po may bill ako rito.

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So, Madam Chair,

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masiguro lang po natin na matulungan natin ang ating mangingisda

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kasi, despite

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being the ones feeding our country, our fishers consistently rank among the basic sectors with high poverty incidence.

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Let's do our part in helping the sector that, that feeds us.

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Tulungan po natin ang ating mangingisda.

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Alam naman natin na ito ang talagang, ah, isa sa mga dapat nating tulungan.

Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

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Salamat po, ah, Madam Chair.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

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Thank you, Congressman Rodriguez.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

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Now, from the minority, Representative Sarah Jane Elago.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

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The issue now is to make sure that these are commercialized and procured by the appropriate organizations.

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Our role has been to support the R&D and it's ready for commercialization.

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And that means that organizations...

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...must be able to procure it for their use.

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Iyon po iyong division ng role namin.

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But definitely, we will promote this as we are still in constant dialogue with the technology producer at UP.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Mr. Chair, natanong ko ho ito dahil marami ho sa ating ulat ang DOST na produkto ng kanilang R&D.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Ngunit, ang malaking problema, paano natitiyak na...

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...yung produkto ng siyensya na pananaliksik ng teknolohiya ay nagsisilbi para sa interes ng mga nangangailangan at para sa interes ng sambayan ng Pilipino.

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Kaya sa tingin ko, isa ito, historically, isa sa mga pinakamalaking gap pagdating sa kung paano nare-recognize ng ating national government yung trabaho ng DOST.

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Napakayaman natin sa...

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...mga bagong impormasyon, teknolohiya, grabe yung wealth of innovation, na hindi na lang imagination, pero meron talagang mga hawak na tayo ng mga produkto, mga bagong serbisyo, pero hindi po nagagamit.

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Iyan ho siguro ang isa sa dapat nating pag-isipan: paano makikipagtulungan sa DA, DTI, at ngayon iyong DOJ o kaya NBI.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Lalong-lalo na, marami ho sa mga...

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biktima talaga, no, ng sexual assault.

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Nahihirapan ho sila doon pa lang sa proseso ng pag-report at pagsusumbong.

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Dahil alam nila na madalas doon ho tayo natitigil sa paghabol sa perpetrator.

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Dahil walang timely na collection ng evidence.

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Kung sila ho ay naging biktima ng iba't ibang porma ng sexual crimes.

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Kaya ho...

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...may pag-aaral ho ba kayo?

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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O meron pong mga nag-sisimula ngayon ng kung paano ito maaaring ma-distribute sa ating halimbawa sa mga women and children protection unit sa ating mga public hospitals para po magamit ito sa ngayon?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

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Hindi lang po sa sexual assault kit technology ang issue ng scaling up on the use.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

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Nung nagsimula po kami,

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in 2022,

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the big gap is really to scale up the innovation that we have developed throughout the Philippines.

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Commercialization issue.

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The problem is that sometimes,

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there is a...

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They don't want to take the risk.

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The investors don't want to take the risk.

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So that's why sometimes,

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what we do for those technologies na kailangan,

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but up to a certain point,

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yung R&D utilization,

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we provide some support,

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to produce this.

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And provide this to serve as use cases,

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and hopefully the relevant organization can adopt this like DOJ and PNP.

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So yun pong commercialization focus, meron po kaming programa.

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But at some point,

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hindi naman kami pwedeng...

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kami ang mag-produce at i-distribute lang yun.

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So that's why it's important tulad po nung sinabi nyo,

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that we deal directly with the appropriate agencies.

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Now, with the Tatak Pinoy Act,

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I hope that this technology is supported by DOST

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and produced by Filipino technologies

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will be given preferential treatment for purchase.

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Especially with this kit,

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kasi yung DNA talaga yung makakatulong

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pag-preserve ng evidence

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at mahanap yung culprit.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Nakakabahala, Mr. Chair.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Halimbawa,

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alam ho natin na hindi pa nga lang sa level ng DOST,

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iyong sa PSHS system,

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at sa mga LGU-funded scientists,

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sa high schools natin,

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ang daming mga ginagawang mga bagong produkto

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na high-value products,

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na nanggaling sa ating agricultural products.

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Pero nakita natin kung paano sa Pilipinas din,

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yung mga hindi na-deliver na carrot,

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sibuyas, cabbage,

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at iba pang mga produkto sa agrikultura,

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ay tinatapon lamang nung mga magsasaka.

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Ang ibig ko pong sabihin dito,

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ay kung paano ba natin matitiyak

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na yung wealth ng natural resources,

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natin,

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through our R&D,

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our S&T.

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nagagamit talaga

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para sa pangkabuuang

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pagpapaunlad ng yaman

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ng Pilipinas. So,

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on to my last set

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of questions.

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Kakampi ninyo ako,

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sa tingin ko,

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halos lahat kami

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dito, kung hindi man kami lahat,

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na mananawagan na

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ma-restore lahat ng budget cuts

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dun sa 2026 level.

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At kung maaari pa nga na madagdagan pa

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para sa mga nangangailangan na agencies.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Ang sunod kong katanungan

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000242

DOST-FNRI

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000243

Ang FNRI po

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000244

ang nagdidesenyo ng mga

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000245

menu bundles na

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000246

makakamit sa

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000247

minimum nutritional requirements

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000248

kada tao

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000249

para siya ay manatiling

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000250

malusog at

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000251

produktibo. Sa ngayon po ba,

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000252

ano ho yung amount

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000253

na basis ninyo ng paggawa

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000254

ng mga menu bundles na ito?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000255

May I ask the director of

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000256

FNRI to respond.

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000257

Yes po. Thank you po, sir.

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000258

Madam Congresswoman,

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000259

Naka-base po kami doon sa mga reference values natin

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000260

sa PDRI. So, iyong mga

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000261

basis po natin, for example, yung mga na-develop

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000262

natin, we have to make sure that at least

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000263

one-third of the requirement po

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000264

ay nami-meet.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000265

Magkano po ito, Mr. Chair?

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000266

Kada meal, or per person per day,

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000267

magkano po ito sa ngayon?

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-000268

Can you wind up, Congresswoman Elago, on your question?

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000269

Well, at the moment po,

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000270

cannot give the exact figure ng

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000271

computation kasi marami pong

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000272

considerations

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000273

dun sa computation.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000274

But when was the last time

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000275

you designed these original menu bundles?

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000276

There was a study conducted

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000277

in 2023 na ginawa po

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000278

among adolescents.

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000279

And at that

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000280

moment, pero 2023 po yung

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000281

basis, meron pong

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000282

around ₱30.25. But that's

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000283

2023 figures po.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000284

Opo. All right. So, for the

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000285

years 2022 to 2023,

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000286

what was the basis then

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000287

for the amount? Gusto ko lang makakuha

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000288

ng figure, Mr. Chair.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000289

Kasi, syempre, mahalaga din ito sa pag-establish

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000290

ng ating food poverty threshold.

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000291

Yes po. Ang basis po during that

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000292

time ay, of course, yung mga market value

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000293

ng mga raw materials na naka-include doon sa

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000294

mga recipe po na dinevelop ng FNRI.

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000295

The formula

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000296

itself is

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000297

within, nandun po sa mga

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000298

kasama po natin sa FNRI na nag-develop

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000299

nito. And,

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000300

of course, given po yung

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000301

mga current po na mga

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000302

prices po ngayon ng mga raw materials,

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000303

puwede po nating i-input iyong mga iyon and we can

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000304

have the calculation.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000305

Sorry, Mr. Chair. Gusto ko lang makuha talaga yung amount.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000306

Kasi, hindi pa po nabibigay yung amount.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-000307

Maybe you can ask the question for the second round.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000308

Yes, opo. So,

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000309

how much was the amount

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000310

back then? Years 2022 to 2023?

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000311

This is for the meals for adolescents po.

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000312

It's around 30 pesos and 25

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000313

centavos.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000313-split-2

Right.

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000313-split-3

Opo.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000314

I ask this question, Mr.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000315

Chair, at hingin ko na rin po yung pinakahuli

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000316

ninyong pag-aaral dito. At kung may plano kayo para

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000317

sa mga susunod. Mahalaga

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000318

ito, Mr. Chair, kasi

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000319

ang pinakahuli pong

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000320

ulat ng DBM dito sa

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000321

Kongreso, nung sila ay nagpunta

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000322

dito para sa presentation

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000323

ng 2027 budget

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000324

na ang poverty

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000325

₱111

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000326

pesos sa NCR.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000327

₱77,

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000328

77 pesos. So,

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000329

around ₱26 per meal.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000330

Mas maliit pa po

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000331

Outside NCR, around ₱23

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000332

per meal. At sinasabi niyo ho

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000333

ngayon, 2022-2023

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000334

figure, hindi pa po yan adjusted

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000335

based sa inflation. 30

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000336

pesos na. So, hindi po talaga

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000337

makatotohanan yung ginagamit natin

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000338

ngayon na subsistence threshold.

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000339

At kinakailangan na natin yung i-update

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000340

kung gusto talaga natin ng

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000341

makatotohanan na

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000342

presentasyon ng kalagayan

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000343

ng ating mamamayang Pilipino. Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-000344

Thank you,

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-000345

Congresswoman Elago. Now,

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-000346

from the majority,

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-000347

last from the majority,

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-000348

Congresswoman Bella Suansing.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000349

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000350

Good evening, everyone.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000351

Just a couple of questions to the

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000352

good secretary and the DOST family.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000353

First, we're very happy

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000354

to hear that agriculture,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000355

smart agriculture, is one of the priorities

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000356

of the DOST.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000357

So, can the good secretary

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000358

please orient the committee

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000359

on the process

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000360

called Project SARAI,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000361

or Smarter Approaches

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000362

to Reinvigorate Agriculture

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000363

as an Industry.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000364

in the Philippines? So, here,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000365

in the presentation was mentioned

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000366

that

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000367

there's crop nutrient

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000368

management, pero merong community

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000369

level enhanced agricultural

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000370

monitoring system.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000371

But also,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000372

I guess these are linked to

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000373

the mobile applications, and there are a lot

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000374

of different apps that were mentioned.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000375

Can we get,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000376

can this committee be oriented

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000377

with the process of SARAI?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000378

Thank you,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000379

Your Honor.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000380

Essentially, Project SARAI was our R&D

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000381

program funded by

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000382

DOST-PCAARRD,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000383

and, of course, monitored

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000384

and funded by DOST

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000385

and implemented by UPLB before

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000386

and now being operated

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000387

at the regional level.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000388

It integrates satellite remote

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000389

sensing, GIS and crop mapping,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000390

weather and rainfall data,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000391

crop forecasting and modeling,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000392

pest and disease monitoring,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000393

water and nutrient management,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000394

digital mobile applications, those will be the guide,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000395

and site-specific

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000396

crop advisories. And as we

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000397

move along, there can be

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000398

other applications that can be developed

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000399

depending on the areas.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000400

But these are essentially the core

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000401

activities under the project.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000402

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000403

So, Project

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000404

Project SARAI

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000405

rolled out in which regions?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000406

Lahat po ng region.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000407

It depends on the commodity

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000408

that the local government and the farmers would want

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000409

to look into. And even

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000410

in NCR. So, we have urban

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000411

farming here in NCR.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000412

Okay. Thank you.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000413

Would these, would

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000414

Project SARAI

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000415

it, I assume,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000416

takes from soil

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000417

samples, so

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000418

Project SARAI

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000419

the planting of specific

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000420

varieties of crops?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000421

Essentially, soil health and soil

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000422

classification needs to be done

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000423

so that we can look at the best

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000424

possible agricultural crop that

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000425

must be planted.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000426

But in the operationalization

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000427

of Project SARAI, we don't

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000428

restrict the use

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000429

of other technologies

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000430

beyond SARAI. Because, for example,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000431

the other

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000432

technology using seaweed as foliar

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000433

fertilizer that can increase

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000434

rice production up to 30%,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000435

although not part of Project SARAI,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000436

can be implemented.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000437

So, it supplements the fertilizer

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000438

placed on the soil

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000439

and it,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000440

for all the commodities that we have

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000441

looked into and used it, lahat

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000442

nag-i-increase ang production.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000443

Even Smart Agri.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000444

The project does not

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000445

go into Smart Aqua. So, we're also introducing

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000446

Aqua. So, we're also introducing

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000447

the Smart Aqua technologies,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000448

also supported by DOST,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000449

through DOST-PCAARRD.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000450

DOST-PCAARRD is

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000451

the Agri-Aqua sectoral council.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000452

Agri-Aqua technologies po ang focus natin.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000453

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000454

Related,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000455

my next question.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000456

So, we were given a good

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000457

presentation on

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000458

the projects, the R&D

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000459

projects, and the

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000460

resulting products for

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000461

major crop commodities,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000462

smart aquaculture,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000463

and then,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000464

environmental sustainability,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000465

circular economy initiatives.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000466

Are there efforts on the part of

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000467

the DOST to link with

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000468

the Department of Agriculture,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000469

like all of the programs of

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000470

our national government agencies

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000471

to use climate-smart

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000472

methods?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000473

There are always

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000474

efforts, especially through

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000475

with DOST-PCAARRD,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000476

would be one of our

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000477

governing council members.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000478

We are also, especially,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000479

into coconut

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000480

and dairy, so we're also part

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000481

of that board. Now, of course,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000482

the utilization

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000483

of the technologies that we have

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000484

developed might

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000485

not be 100%, but

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000486

at our regional

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000487

and provincial offices, once

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000488

we introduce these technologies,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000489

or through the consortia

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000490

of PCAARRD.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000491

these technologies can be implemented

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000492

locally as well.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000493

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000494

The reason why I bring it up is

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000495

I'm part of the Task Force El Niño.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000496

DOST is the

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000497

co-chairperson of the OCD.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000498

It would be good, given that

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000499

it's a

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000500

35-minute

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000501

presentation by the DOST of all the things

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000502

that you already accomplished,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000503

and all of the projects that you

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000504

already have completed, and all of the

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000505

technologies that resulted to it.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000506

El Niño,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000507

it's super El Niño now.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000508

This has to be,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000509

at the forefront of

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000510

our national consciousness.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000511

Climate-smart

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000512

agriculture, first is

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000513

a daunting idea to everyone,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000514

but apparently, the DOST is already

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000515

implementing and has

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000516

completed projects that directly

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000517

address these problems.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000518

For example, if climate

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000519

change results to the acidity

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000520

of soils, but

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000521

Project SARAI

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000522

or iyong SARAI,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000523

potential na

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000524

recommendation for particular

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000525

pilot areas,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000526

sana po,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000527

siguro panawagan ito sa

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000528

lahat po na nakikinig, na

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000529

ang dami na pong teknolohiya

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000530

na na-develop ang DOST.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000531

Sana po, ma-integrate

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000532

natin sa mga programa po ng

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000533

Pambansang Pamahalaan,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000534

Nasasayang po eh.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000535

grabe po, iyong impact nito

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000536

DOST family, all of the

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000537

attached agencies, sana po at

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000538

ma-incorporate po natin.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000539

Thank you,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000540

Congresswoman.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000541

At first, we tried to

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000542

advertise the different

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000543

technologies that we have for agriculture

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000544

by developing

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000545

use cases or pilots.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000546

But we felt

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000547

that the

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000548

implementation is not accelerated

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000549

at the rate

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000550

by which climate change

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000551

would affect our

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000552

farmers and fisher folk.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000553

So that's why we decided,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000554

that we implement

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000555

these technologies at the regional level

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000556

where we will collaborate

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000557

with departments like DA,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000558

the provincial and local governments,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000559

and the cooperatives

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000560

or specific farmer

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000561

partner.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000562

For example, for the El Nino

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000563

Task Force, we actually

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000564

developed the

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000565

platform for

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000566

providing the information and monitoring

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000567

the different interventions.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000568

But in this year,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000569

we specifically asked

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000570

that interventions developed by DOST

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000571

and, of course,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000572

through PCAARRD,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000573

be part of the intervention.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000574

For example,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000575

the use of water for irrigation,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000576

drip irrigation,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000577

furrow irrigation.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000578

We have, in Region 3,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000579

developed the

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000580

solar irrigation trailer unit.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000581

Usually,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000582

we develop irrigation systems

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000583

that are permanent,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000584

but solarized.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000585

But it's kind of a

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000586

very expensive.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000587

So what they have done there

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000588

with Nueva Ecija Science and Technology University

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000589

is to develop this mobile trailer unit

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000590

that after you irrigate

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000591

one farmer's land,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000592

then this can be pulled by a

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000593

or tricycle or a jeepney

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000594

so that another farm can be irrigated.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000595

It taps surface water or shallow water wells.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000596

So in essence,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000597

dalawa po ang ating ina-address:

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000598

iyong availability ng

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000599

tubig,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000600

saka tipid sa

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000601

diesel na usually ginagamit.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000602

So iyon po iyong mga...

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000603

I mentioned during the

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000604

Congressional hearing on

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000605

the energy crisis here.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000606

So we have those technologies

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000607

and we hope that

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000608

we can actually provide this technology

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000609

and local governments will avail of this

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000610

so that we can manage the forthcoming El Nino.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000611

Thank you.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000612

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000613

Yes. Actually,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000614

there is this really good chart

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000615

that you showed

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000616

on smart flood management approaches.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000617

Actually, under,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000618

if I remember correctly,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000619

under the 2026 GAA,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000620

there is supposed to be the establishment

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000621

of the integrated water resource

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000622

and flood mitigation strategy.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000623

So again,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000624

my compliments to the DOST.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000625

Just quickly,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000626

chineck ko po iyong HANDA portal ninyo po.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000627

Mayroon kasi po ditong emergency SOS na area.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000628

I wonder po kung paano po nafi-feedback iyong health authorities.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000629

Is it

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000630

through the LGUs

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000631

or is it through the DOH central office?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000632

Well, okay.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000633

The HANDA integrated platform,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000634

I think is one of the most advanced platform

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000635

for disaster preparedness and response

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000636

that I think the country would be proud of.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000637

It integrates,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000638

all early warning systems

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000639

that both the LGUs and the public can avail of.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000640

And if your concern is your community only,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000641

you can expand by clicking on the radios.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000642

But we have also systems there

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000643

that can be tailored fit for the LGUs

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000644

or the national OCD.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000645

So your SOS or reporting an incident can be activated

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000646

if the LGU that would use that platform,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000647

would want it.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000648

Kasi ayaw naming i-on

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000649

kung ang mga citizen ay magre-report,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000650

wala namang magma-manage.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000651

So it depends on the LGU if they really want.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000652

The other feature of that platform is

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000653

you can use AI chatbot to ask about

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000654

one, the hazards that they can be affected with

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000655

or plan the evacuation route

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000656

that they would take from their place

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000657

to the nearest evacuation site.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000658

And it depends on the needs of the LGU.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000659

We can customize some of some of the interventions that they want. So ito po ay hindi tapos. It's really

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000660

already good, but now, depending on the needs of the LGU, kung marami pa silang naiisip na innovation that can also be

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000661

added. But I think we just launched it last March this year, and I think this can be very powerful for the Office of Civil Defense and the LGUs to use.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000662

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The evacuation centers were mapped by DOST, or did you get the data from the OCD?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000663

Whatever evacuation site that

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000664

the DILG and OCD have selected, then we put it in the software so that, using AI, this can now be

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000665

provided to the person who would ask the nearest evacuation from

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000666

their

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000667

residence or where they are. So the app will use the location of your

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000668

cell phone, the GPS, so it will automatically assess the hazard where you are.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000669

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Last po, Mr. Secretary, you mentioned the Science for Peace program with the former combatants of the

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000670

MILF. Can we please be oriented about the program for Science for Peace?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000671

Okay.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000672

The Office of the Presidential Adviser on Peace, Reconciliation

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000673

and Unity approached us through DOST Region XII, asking if we were willing to help them

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000674

solve the issues that they have in helping the former combatants in

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000675

BARMM, and we decided, for the first phase,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000676

to help six former MILF camps. One is to address the lack of potable water. Second is to do the

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000677

interventions for livelihood so we have catfish production and they use

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000678

purified water out of the SAFEWATRS that we developed. The DOST-ITDI developed

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000679

it. It's cost-effective, very easy to use. You just replace the membrane, mag-order

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000680

ka lang sa Lazada or Shopee. Palitan mo lang iyon, madali.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000681

So tuwang-tuwa na sila doon kasi they can use it for drinking and, of course, for raising the catfish.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000682

Also halal production of bread—

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000683

pinakamasarap na pandesal na natikman ko sa Camp Sarmiento—and also weaving.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000684

We provided them satellite Starlink and library in a box

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000685

so that the kids would also be able to learn.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000686

So I think what we need to do is

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000687

provide them the opportunity to use science and technology and really solve

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000688

their basic needs water livelihood even clothing if possible and we will have

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000689

another phase. This is the concept that we have: if we develop conflict areas using

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000690

science technology and innovation then people will believe that they can

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000691

actually uplift their own lives and eventually because of their preoccupation

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000692

to really improving their lives, they would be more focused on peace.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000693

They wanted to really experience a life that is really good. Ayaw naman nila ng conflict.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000694

The real issue now is to provide them the opportunity and for them to trust

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000695

our intervention. Yun po yung kailangan eh. Hindi ka puwedeng magbigay lang ng

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000696

technology intervention tapos iiwanan mo. Minsan iyan ang problem ng development

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000697

partners kasi wala naman sila doon sa baba. Puwede silang tumulong, but

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000698

they have to leave sometimes. So importante na ma-capacitate natin ang

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000699

ating mga kababayan and not leave them. Thank you.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000700

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Those are my questions, but a brief manifestation, if I may.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000701

Thank you to the DOST family.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000702

I specifically would want to thank

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000703

si Director Toto, Dr. Toto Bacolcol, at si Dr. Servando.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000704

Taga-Sultan Kudarat po ako.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000705

Noong Enero po, na-hit po kami ng earthquake swarms.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000706

Ilang preemptive evacuation po

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000707

ang kinailangan naming gawin.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000708

Sobrang nakatulong po sila Director Bacolcol at mga kaibigan natin sa PHIVOLCS,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000709

hindi lang sa pag-monitor ng tsunami warnings,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000710

but even bumaba po sila para sa hazard mapping,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000711

sa REDAS seminar sa buong coastal namin sa Kalamansig, Lebak, at Palimbang.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000712

Maraming-maraming salamat po kay Director Toto

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000713

at sa lahat po ng kaibigan natin sa PHIVOLCS,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000714

at kay Dr. Servando po,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000715

na grabe po 'yung pagkulit ko sa kanya

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000716

noong nag-start po 'yung advisory sa El Niño,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000717

kasi ang Sultan Kudarat po ay isa sa mga pinaka-vulnerable

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000718

sa super El Niño pagdating.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000719

So maraming-maraming salamat po

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000720

sa DOST family sa lahat po ng tulong ninyo,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000721

and rest assured po,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000722

suportado po natin hindi lang po 'yung budget ninyo,

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000723

pero pati 'yung pagdagdag

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000724

ng budget ninyo sa DOST.

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000725

Maraming-maraming salamat po.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-000726

Thank you, Kong Bella.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-000727

Now, from the minority,

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-000728

Congressman Antonio Tinio.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000729

Thank you chair.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000730

Ah ilang mga paglilinaw sa proposed budget

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000731

so total budget uh proposed 30.8

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000732

no, na mas mababa kaysa GAA ngayon na 32.1 billion.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000733

So nabawasan. Tapos

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000734

kung tinitignan natin yung budget ng DOST and attached

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000735

of course there's a reduction in the sa Office of the Secretary.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000736

Tapos sa mga attached agencies merong mga you know ah malaki rin.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000737

For example, PAGASA, nabawasan po by 2 point...

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000738

Magkano itong nabawas dito?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000739

It's a 12.5%

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000740

Tama po ba?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000741

Ah, so PAGASA,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000742

ano pong explanation? Bakit

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000743

mas mababa po ang ang proposal ng PAGASA? Um,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000744

Dr. Servando, can you respond?

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000745

Thank you, Secretary.

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000746

Your Honor, the reduction of our budget for 2027

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000747

on the uh capital outlay because some projects

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000748

for the 2026

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000749

ay hindi na kailangang mapunduhan na next year

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000750

like example sa pag-establish ng warning system

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000751

sa isang river basin

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000752

so dahil funded na this year

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000753

so tinanggal na siya for next year.

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000754

One [unclear] equipment, like an X-band radar,

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000755

to be established in one of the river basin

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000756

ay hindi naman kailangang punduhan again

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000757

so uh the reduction is about on the capital outlay

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000758

that uh we're already excluded for next year.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000759

Okay.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000760

So hindi naman nabawasan iyung ah operations or anything.

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000761

Hindi naman po.

PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando

asr-000762

In fact, may increase po.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000763

Sige. Capital outlay.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000764

Ah ang isa pa pong tampok dito ay yung bawas sa Food and Nutrition Research Institute

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000765

from uh 1.1 billion naging 634 million

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000766

na lang. Ano pong explanation non?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000767

May I ask the director?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000768

I would surmise it's the building that they need to finish

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000769

but please respond.

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000770

Salamat po secretary. Ah

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000771

sir um yung bawas po doon sa budget is the capital

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000772

capital outlay, gaya po ng sinabi ng Secretary.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000773

So, pinondohan iyong building ninyo. Ganoon ba?

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000774

Hindi po,

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000775

naibawas po iyong pondo sa building.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000776

Kulang pa?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000777

Ulit, nabawas?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000778

Pakilinaw.

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000779

Yun po yung nabawas doon sa budget po.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000780

So there was funding for capital outlay for 2026.

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000781

Yes po.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000782

Pero wala na for 2027.

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000783

Yes po.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000784

Makukumpleto na ba iyong building?

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000785

Phase 4 po. Hindi pa po siya makukumpleto.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000786

So, kulang?

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000787

Wala.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000788

So, kailangan ninyo ba, para matapos ang inyong building,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000789

how much do you need?

DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis

asr-000790

iyung request po for 2027 is 400 million po for the phase 4.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000791

400 million for phase 4. Ayan.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000792

So baka narinig yan ng ating chair of the committee on appropriations.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000793

Okay.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000794

Sa kabilang banda naman merong merong napansin ako

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000795

rito Metals Industry Research and Development Center.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000796

It's a a 73.6% increase from 316 naging 549 million.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000797

Bakit naman po may malaking increase?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000798

Capital outlay din ba to?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000799

Ako na lang sasagot.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000800

Opo. Sige po.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000801

'Yung uh grant-in-aid kasi ng Office of the Secretary,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000802

tinanggalan kami and then nilipat sa ibang mga agencies

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000803

tulad ng MIRDC

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000804

kaya lumaki sila.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000805

Mayroon pong grant

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000806

sa Office of the Secretary. Nilipat ninyo doon?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000807

Oo.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000808

What is the specific grant? Mukhang substansyal.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000810

Usually, some of it is related to their mandate.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000811

Usually ang ginagawa po natin sa grant-in-aid

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000812

if agencies would need support from the office of the secretary

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000813

to develop new technologies,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000814

especially po iyung tinatawag naming industry 4.0

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000815

using AI robotics automation,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000816

ito po yung tinatawag naming Quatro program.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000817

Binibigyan namin sila ng fund because it's not part of their original GIA fund.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000818

So nag-decide ang DBM to transfer uh that certain amount of fund to them.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000819

So pag sinabi pong Metals Industry Research and Development Center,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000820

specifically, you're talking about robotics ba iyong binanggit ninyo?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000821

Well, it's about metals industry but

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000822

Is that mining? Ganoon ba?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000823

Not really.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000824

advanced manufacturing

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000826

That would include metal and other advanced manufacturing technologies,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000827

including robotics automation mechanization.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000828

Okay?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000829

Sige po.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000830

Ah, kasama sa presentation ninyo,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000831

may banggit dito tungkol sa NAICRI, National AI Center for Research and Innovation.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000832

Although in your budget proposal

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000833

parang wala namang specific as far as I know

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000834

item for the center.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000835

Tama po ba?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000836

this is already being funded at the uh grant in aid level

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000837

as this is a continuing R&D program

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000838

but the Advanced Science and Technology Institute

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000839

also has a proposal to further increase the compute power.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000840

So I'll ask the Director of ASTI, Dr. de Leon, to further explain.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000841

Yeah. And in connection with that,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000842

so uh sa press release sa inyong website regarding the National AI strategy for the Philippines,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000843

the Secretary mentioned high-performance compute,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000844

national high-performance compute centers,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000845

and that you have a target of increasing high-performance computing power by 26-fold,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000846

presumably, of government?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000847

Yes. For for our own operation

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000848

of government

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000849

and application especially to support our MSME and industries to use AI.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000850

Sige. Puwede

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000851

po bang paki-elaborate

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000852

ano po itong high-performance computing?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000853

Sorry.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000854

Ano ba? High-power...

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000855

High-performance computing.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000856

Okay. High-power computing center.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000858

What is this exactly?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000859

Okay.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000860

So I'll ask...

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000861

Is this infrastructure, as in data centers?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000862

Essentially it's a compute center.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000863

Compute center.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000864

Compute

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000865

cluster?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000866

AI ba iyan?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000867

Yeah. AI.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000868

It can be both physical and on cloud.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000869

So you're talking about...

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000870

Yes.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000871

So, in-country?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000872

In-country po iyan.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000874

So that we can have our own.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000875

Yes.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000876

So, mga high-power GPUs for AI.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000877

Yes.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000879

Opo. Puwede po bang mabigyan tayo ng detalye

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000882

noong anong mga processor ito?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000883

Gaano karami?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000884

How big is the cluster?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000885

Where do you get your power?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000886

Iyan iyong kontrobersiya kaugnay sa Pax Silica.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000887

And also, I would like to know ano ba ang level ng AI infrastructure na nasa Pilipinas

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000888

at pag-aari ng gobyerno in this case?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000889

I am aware may mga private companies na nagtatayo sila ng sarili nilang AI on-prem data centers

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000890

for AI.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000891

Paano dito sa Pilipinas? Paano iyong Pilipinas?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000892

So pwede po bang mag-explain?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000893

Yeah please.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000894

Director Franz.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000895

At magkano iyong budget nito?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000907

And is this reflected in the budget proposal?

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000908

Thank you, Secretary, Madam Chair, Your Honor.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000909

Iyong NAICRI po is a continuation of the current service being provided by the Advanced Science

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000910

and Technology Institute.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000911

So, mga one decade ago, nagtayo na po ng high-performance supercomputer cluster po na mina-manage po ng ASTI

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000912

ASTI and then it became a shared service.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000913

So ibig sabihin po, binibigay natin iyong compute resources and storage for other government agencies, R&D institutes, and the academic community.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000914

Of course, with the advent of AI, it needed a different type of architecture, different type of AI hardware.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000915

So ito na po iyong mga GPU-based computers po natin.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000916

So through the years, through the different projects,

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000917

nabibigyan po tayo ng pondo to expand that center.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000918

With NAICRI, it's more of institutionalizing and sustaining the AI track being supported by DOST.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000919

So nandun po yung commitment to expand further

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000920

as you mentioned po yung nabasa po ninyo sa press release

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000921

and panimula pa lang po siya.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000922

If we could imagine for example currently meron po kaming maliit na data center

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000923

is just a container van at the back of our office.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000924

Ganun lang po kaliit doon po nagsisimula.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000925

Ngayon po we are starting to expand through commercial data centers.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000926

rent out po tayo ng space and then we install our own um GPUs.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000927

So ang intent po natin um to further enhance our own sovereignty.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000928

Yung pagkakaroon po natin ng capacity to deploy and um make our own AI based application

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000929

using our own

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000930

system. Iyon po iyong sinusuportahan ng DOST sa ngayon.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000931

Hindi po ma-provide ng...

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000932

Magkaroon ng idea, ang kongreso, ano yung level ng technology na meron ng DOST ngayon.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000933

For example, sabi nyo may isang container van kayo.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000934

At sa ngayon, yan ang inyong high power compute.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000935

So ano yung mga processor nyo?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000936

Is this...

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000937

Latest ba ito?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000938

Di ba mga NVIDIA chips?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000939

A100, H100, Blackwell, iyong mga ganoon.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000940

Nasaan tayo?

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000941

So tama pa yung nabanggitin nyo.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000942

Meron po tayo noon.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000943

With the latest iteration po na expansion po natin,

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000944

we were fortunate enough to procure yung mas bago, H200.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000945

So currently, in-install po natin sila.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000946

And then with the establishment of NAICRI,

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000947

it's not just about the expansion of the current,

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000948

but we also took...

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000949

plan to roll out sa regions.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000950

Because we realized, masyadong nakasentro yung compute power sa NCR o sa Mega Manila.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000951

So we want to expand that resource as well to the regions.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000952

So nabanggit nyo po, H200, ilan po yung cluster nyo, ilang processors po yun?

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000953

Opo, I don't have the exact figure, but I think there are five major compute servers.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000954

Bukod po sa compute servers, may tandem po siya with data storage,

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000955

kasi mahalaga rin po siya.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000956

And also upgrading of network equipment.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000957

Kasi we expect large amount of data and traffic to be exchanged.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000958

So lahat po yun, sabay-sabay po natin na in-upgrade.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000959

At magkano po ang budget?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000960

Is that in the current budget?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000961

And the proposal to expand by 26-fold by 2028?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000962

So magkano po yung...

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000963

How much will this cost?

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000964

Opo, sa ngayon po iyong initial seed funding na binigay po ng DOST

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000965

through its GIAs, 300 million.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000966

So we hope to further that.

DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon

asr-000967

So aside from the OSEC, probably in the near future, also through developmental partners po.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000968

Okay.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000969

So Chair, hindi na ako magpapatagal, pero masang concern po natin dito.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000970

Yun nga, importante yung binabanggit na dapat magkaroon din ng sariling digital or AI infrastructure ang Pilipinas.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000971

No?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000972

So yung tinatawag na, whatever you call it, data sovereignty.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000973

Okay.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000974

Otherwise, ang nangyayari po, lumalaga na pang AI, palagi tayong uupa ng cloud and data services and AI services from, ultimately from abroad.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000975

Diba?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000976

At papalaki na ng papalaki.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000977

Actually, ang ginagastos natin dyan.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000978

So, Chair, pwedeng makahingi na lang makapagsubmit ng mas na detalyado.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000979

Yung information about what we currently have and what are the plans to expand the nationally owned compute.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000980

No?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000981

And also the plan to, sabi nyo, dapat ma-expand din sa regions.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000982

Diba?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000983

Okay.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000984

So, tapos, in other words, kasi minsan pagkausap namin ng DICT, parang pinag-uusapan din nila ito.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000985

So, ano ba yan?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000986

And kayo ba ang lead agency with regard to, you know, developing indigenous digital infrastructure o yung AI infrastructure o is it DICT o may kanya-kanyang diskarte kayo?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000987

Mr. Chair, if I may respond.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000988

We developed the National AI Strategy.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000989

And in that development, there are four major components.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000990

The first is the AI factory, the infrastructure, the human resources, the policies, and of course the financing.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000991

Out of it, we will have to develop the AI refinery, developing the models, the analytics between government, national, local, academic, and industry partners.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000992

Now, to really implement and accelerate.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000993

The application of AI, we need to have partnerships at the local, regional, and national level, and of course, international partnership.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000994

All of this are geared into really helping our own enterprises and the community.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000995

So, we also crafted the National AI Implementation Strategy, where different government organizations will take the lead.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000996

On DOST, we lead in the development of the infrastructure for research and development.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000997

And talent management, and development of language models that can be utilized together with DTI and DICT, and the industry by various enterprises.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000998

Now, DICT is involved in the connectivity and infrastructure as well, but they are mainly dealing with the private sector to support this.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-000999

Magkaiba po talaga ang laro namin.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001000

Now, to support the AI sovereignty, DOST is also developing.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001001

The data sovereignty through the Geospatial Analytics and Technology Solutions platform.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001002

It's a digital transformation of all data anchored on geographic information system, the science of where.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001003

And this is where we differentiate DOST from the rest of other government agencies.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001004

We are developing this data that will be utilized to fuel the artificial intelligence technology.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001005

So, eventually, our goal is to develop a geospatial.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001006

GeoAI Hub, managed by DOST, so that we can provide our enterprises and the government Philippine-owned data that will be queried by large language models or language models that we develop.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001007

Currently, we have iTanong as a language model that can be utilized by anyone who would want to look at it.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001008

We also have an equivalent of the App Store or Google.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001009

We also have a Google Play Store where language models using Filipino data sets are placed there so that one can look at it and see if you have similar operation.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001010

You can use that model para i-short circuit na po natin yung lack of compute power and scale.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001011

So, gamitin nyo na lang yun, pwede mo nang patakbuhin yung operation mo using that model.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001012

So iyon po ang current state ng AI strategy ng DOST.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001013

Sir, pahingin na lang po, sana makapag-provide ng mga data.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001014

Mga dokumento on the national AI strategy and the plan.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001015

And yung ibang mga tanong ko, siguro, sino po ba ang magandang kausap si Director De Leon?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001016

Opo.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001017

Okay, thank you. Thank you, Chair.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001018

Thank you, Congressman Tinio.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001019

Congressman Nicky Briones.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001020

Ah, thank you, Mr. Chair.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001021

Ah, gusto ko lang namang magpasalamat

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001022

sa mga nagagawa na itutulong ng DOST sa ating mga farmers,

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001023

especially sa amin, sa egg industry.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001024

through your program na DOST-BIST, or Business Innovation through Science and Technology,

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001025

CRADLE, uh, Collaborative Research and Development to Leverage Philippine Economy,

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001026

malaki ang naitulong ng DOST.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001027

Without my intervention, ha, kaya yung coordination ng DOST at saka ng DA, napakaganda.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001028

Kasi alam natin na yung egg eh maiksi lang ang shelf life.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001029

So dahil doon sa inyong boiled egg brine solution,

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001030

pwede tumagal yung boiled egg up to five years.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001031

So yung handling sa, let's say, may calamity,

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001032

or gusto nating tulungan yung nutrition ng ating mga bata,

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001033

madali na iparating.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001034

So ang isa pa, yung, ah, sa aming, ah, itong, ah, egg processing plant.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001035

Una, yung liquefied egg processing plant.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001036

Ang ating itlog, up to 10, 12 days, pwede nang masira.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001037

Pero because of this liquefied

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001038

egg processing plant, through your initiative,

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001039

ah, nagla-last ng up to more than a month, more than five months.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001040

So mas mabilis yung pagde-deliver din sa mga hotel and industrial partner namin.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001041

Kaya malaki ang nagagawa.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001042

At lastly, itong egg powder,

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001043

Egg.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001044

Powder processing plant.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001045

na even up to five years,

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001046

ah, tumatagal yung itlog.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001047

So, napakalaki ng, uh, nagawa niyo sa Batangas Egg Producers Cooperative

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001048

at doon sa aming bayan sa San Jose,

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001049

which is the egg basket of the Philippines.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001050

We are producing 12 million eggs a day.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001051

So, thank you, ah,

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001052

DOST

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001053

Secretary

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001054

Renato Solidum.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001055

Sana talagang madagdagan natin ang budget ng DOST.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001056

Thank you po.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001057

Thank you.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001058

Thank you, Vice Chair Nicky Briones.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001059

First, I would like to acknowledge the presence of our Senior Deputy Speaker,

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001060

the gentleman, Senior Deputy Speaker

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001061

Dan Fernandez.

Rep. Dan S. Fernandez

asr-001062

Baka ako ang makakadagdag ng budget?

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001063

Before we go to our favorite motion,

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001064

any last word of support?

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001065

Senior Deputy Speaker.

Rep. Dan S. Fernandez

asr-001066

Humabol lang ako, but I'm not going to ask questions.

Rep. Dan S. Fernandez

asr-001067

Si Sec. Solidum, one of the performing secretaries.

Rep. Dan S. Fernandez

asr-001068

Of course, the entire department, no?

Rep. Dan S. Fernandez

asr-001069

So, I'm only here to support your budget and if possible, increase your budget.

Rep. Dan S. Fernandez

asr-001070

Yun lang po.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001071

Thank you, SDS. May hahabol lang na question.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001072

Congressman Tinio, go ahead.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001073

Chair, actually, may postscript lang ako doon sa issue ng

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001074

ah, data sovereignty, digital sovereignty, AI sovereignty.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001075

At may, meron, binanggit nga si Secretary, meron ng national AI strategy.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001076

Okay?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001077

At personally, I support this idea, no?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001078

Na, sige, lumalaganap ang AI. Kailangan meron—may control ang mga Pilipino, 'di ba.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001079

Hindi yung nakaasa tayo sa AI.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001080

In a way, yung data natin,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001081

gagamitin nung iba to improve their models and then we, we end up just as paying customers.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001082

Hindi tama yun.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001083

However, Mr. Chair, I would like to point something out.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001084

Recently, ay kaugnay po ito sa Pax Silica.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001085

The main proponent of Pax Silica is the U.S. Undersecretary of State, Jacob Helberg, no?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001086

And, uh, just last June 24, he came out with a, uh, a, um, um,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001087

a speech or a publication called the Digital Sovereignty Trap.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001088

At dito, explicitly, ang sinasabi niya rito,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001089

Okay, a growing number of governments persuaded that independence requires duplication,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001090

are drafting national AI strategies to match, each resolved to rebuild inside its own borders,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001091

a stack that already exists somewhere else.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001092

It is a sub, it is a seductive vision, it is also backward and counterproductive, no?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001093

So, ang main thesis niya dito, uy, kayong mga bansa,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001094

huwag na kayong mag-ambisyong, ah, mag-develop ng sarili niyong AI technology,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001095

you will always be backward.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001096

Sumakay kayo sa U.S. kasi we are developing the most advanced AI technology, no?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001097

So misguided.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001098

Yung, ah, mga plano niyo na magtayo ng sarili niyong, ah, AI technology. Just join us.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001099

And this is what Pax Silica is about, no?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001100

So, ah, obviously, tutol po tayo; nire-reject natin.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001101

Yung, ayan na 'yun, the main proponent of Pax Silica is this, this person, Helberg.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001102

Siya nga yung nagpunta rito to inaugurate.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001103

uh, the, the Pax Silica project in, uh, New Clark City, no?

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001104

And napakalinaw po nung kanyang argumento dito na, okay,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001105

huwag na yung digital national, you know, yung no AI sovereignty.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001106

Mananatili kayong backward.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001107

Tulungan niyo kami. Nasa amin ang pinaka-advanced na teknolohiya, no.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001108

So, um...

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001109

In that regard, ah, ano pong masasabi ng DOST diyan?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001110

AI is simply a technology.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001111

It can be powerful.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001112

You can develop large language models.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001113

But in the AI summit that I attended, one of the leading industrial companies,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001114

I think one of the best statements that she made was you cannot compete with those already advanced.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001115

And so her advice is for countries to develop smaller language models

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001116

that would address the specific needs of their country or their organization.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001117

Second, it is the data that will be more powerful than the AI.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001118

That is why,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001119

our focus is to develop a data sovereignty platform.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001120

Thank you.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001121

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001122

In that regard, uh, I commend the Secretary for having that stand.

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001123

Importante po, no, na sa kabila ng ayan na po napakalinaw na tulak ng U.S.—

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001124

sabi nila, tigil niyo na 'yan, sumama kayo sa amin—

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001125

Ah, dapat po, tama lang na ipagpatuloy ang effort na i-develop ang sarili nating infrastructure at

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001126

kakayahan kahit dito sa larangan ng AI,

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-001127

lalo pa at ang kailangan—ang kailangan natin ay 'yung sariling data natin ang gamitin para tugunan ang mga pangangailangan ng Pilipino. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 'Yun lang po ang puntong gusto kong i-raise. Thank you.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001130

Thank you, Congressman Tinio.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001131

Congresswoman Renee Co.

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001132

Sorry, Mr. Chair. This is just, um—or, uh—

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001133

this is just a point of inquiry that we would like to address to the Committee on Appropriations.

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001134

Uh,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001135

given that there are other executive offices that will be going through plenary discussions separately,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001136

no, when their budgets will be deliberated upon.

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001137

Um, this representation submitted a request to, uh, to the Chair,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001138

Representative Suansing, no,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001139

if it's possible to have pre-plenary deliberations for other executive offices.

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001140

No,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001141

uh,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001142

this

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001143

would include the Anti-Money Laundering Council,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001144

the Bases Conversion and Development Authority,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001145

Climate Change Commission,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001146

Komisyon sa Wikang Filipino, Metropolitan Manila Development Authority,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001147

National Commission on Indigenous Peoples, National Intelligence Coordinating Agency, National Security Council, PDEA, PEZA, and SBMA,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001148

to address various concerns that are opened up to them

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001149

that, because of their layered—um,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001150

uh, because of the—the layered, uh, natures of them,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001151

that it might not be enough to address them

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001152

merely at plenary.

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001153

So that's just a request.

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001154

And I'd like to put it on the record,

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001155

Mr. Chair, Madam Chair.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001156

We'll discuss it po.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001157

We've also been discussing it earlier with Cong. Renee

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001158

because we've been together in several of the hearings.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001159

So we can see how we can move forward with the request.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001160

So we'll coordinate na lang po

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001161

and we'll discuss how we can proceed

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001162

with those OEOs mentioned.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001163

Thank you po.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001164

Okay, uh, thank you.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-001165

Any last words, Chairwoman?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001166

Chairman, last words?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001167

Kanina, message of support. Last words.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001168

Message of support. Opo.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001169

Thank you, thank you.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001170

Thank you, Cong. Amben. Thank you, Cong. Nicky.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001171

I just wanted to say thank you to our two vice chairpersons

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001172

who facilitated today's hearing for the DOST budget briefing.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001173

Thank you, Cong. Amben Amante. Thank you, Cong. Nicky Briones

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001174

for very well, for managing the deliberations very, very well.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001175

Kampante po ako na, ah, kasi alam ko po na the DOST family

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001176

is in great hands with Vice Chair Amben and Vice Chair Nikki.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001177

So palakpakan naman po natin sila.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001178

Thank you po.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001179

Ayun po. So they will be your partners until the plenary deliberations.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001180

So maybe just a few questions, Kong Amben.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001181

Very quick.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001182

Thank you, Kong Tonshi, for posing a lot of the,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001183

I was going to ask on the agency-wise allocations,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001184

but you explained to Kong Tonshi that the big decreases

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001185

in Pag-ASA and PNRI,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001186

it was explained that Pag-ASA is okay

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001187

because it's already done.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001188

Is that, did I catch it correctly?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001189

The ₱364 million differential is because

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001192

uh, on the differential is because there's

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001193

a project that was already done already so no need

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001194

to fund it for 2027.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001195

For FNRI, it's the building.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001196

For the PNRI, is it the same case po?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001197

It's a project, it's a 345 million decrease.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001198

Is it a similar?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001199

Yes.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001200

Similar situation po with Pag-ASA or with FNRI?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001201

It's similar with FNRI.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001202

the project has already done with all its phases kaya nag-stop na po yung funding for this particular capital outlay.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001203

Okay. Sige po. So yun na naman po yung malaki. Those are the most glaring reductions.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001204

You also explained to Kongtonchi earlier that the reason for the increases in the different agency budgets is because of the transfer of the grants.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001205

So, Sige po, that's where I want to ask a question on, a clarificatory question on.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001206

Because earlier it was discussed po that there was a request whether it's possible to re-centralize the grants in the Office of the Secretary.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001207

So I just wanted to maybe ask, we also have our DBM family here with us.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001208

So, Sek, maybe just to enlighten us as to why the grants were distributed.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001209

Across the different agencies. Is that...was that a decision on the part of the OSD or was that the DBM decision?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001210

Sorry. Sorry. Sorry, friends, to put you on the spot.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001211

May we request of someone from the DBM family to please enlighten us?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001212

Kasi this is, this is a big point of contention. This is 1.25 billion being talked about.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001213

So, we just want to understand which way is the right way forward.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001214

Do we centralize the grants in the Office of the Secretary

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001217

the grants in the Office of the Secretary or do we retain the way that

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001218

it's here in the NEP which is distributed across agencies? So if we

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001219

could request someone from the DBM. Director Vivian, if you could

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001220

introduce yourself Director Vivian to the DOST family and to our colleagues.

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001221

Good evening, Madam Chair, Your Honor, Sec. Solidum, and all the DOST family.

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001222

2027, a policy for DBM which was approved to reallocate the funding

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001223

requirements of ongoing R&D

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001227

projects of attached agencies under the DOST that were previously funded under the GIA

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001228

of ASEC Councils directly to the agency-specific budgets of the DOST.

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001229

So as such, the GIA will primarily fund those R&D projects proposed by external stakeholders

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001230

such as the HEIs and other NGAs and private institutions.

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001231

So this process, the reallocation of funding to the attached agencies of the DOST, will

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001232

also facilitate the immediate utilization and implementation of R&D programs by the

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001233

agencies since the funds will be available to them upon the approval of the GIA.

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001234

Instead,

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001235

of the current scheme, there will be interagency transfer funds from the GIA to the implementing

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001236

agencies.

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001237

So this is also to have an efficient process that is streamlined and the trust receipts

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001238

will also disappear.

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001239

That is what will happen.

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001240

So that is the basis of the plan.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001241

Director Vivian, is there a new guideline?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001242

Governing this that was not there during the 2026 GIA or I guess I just want to understand

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001243

the difference between the implementation last year versus this year.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001244

What's different between the 2026 GIA and the 2027 NEP that necessitates this new scheme

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001245

in the grants?

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001246

Yes, Madam Chair.

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001247

Last year, wala pa po ito.

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001248

It's a new policy po by DBM during budget preparation.

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001249

Opo.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001255

So it's an internal DBM policy.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001256

It's a new DBM policy po pala, Sec.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001257

So perhaps this is the right forum to take care of it

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001258

just so we can work on it accordingly on the side of the House.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001259

So siguro, now that you've heard Director Vivian's rationale on it—

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001261

DBM's rationale on it, which

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001262

is, it essentially streamlines it because you're putting the grants straight to the

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001263

agency.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001264

So now is the time also, sir.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001266

SEC to appeal slash reason out as to why, what would the implications be on the implementation?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001267

I'm sure there's a, here I understand streamlining, nakadiretso na, wala na interagency transfer,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001268

but Sigur Sec, from the standpoint of DOST, how would that affect your implementation?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001269

I totally understand the intention. Unfortunately, the details of many of the grants were not

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001270

very clear when all the funds were transferred. So instead of just transferring the amount

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001271

of money for specific agencies that they will have to implement, the funding that are supposed

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001272

to be under the same field, but not to be implemented by the same agency, that's not

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001273

true. That agency were also included. So kaya sumobra talaga yung ibang agency. So the

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001274

intention was good, but may mga details na siguro hindi, although we appealed to them,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001275

like PAGASA and PHIVOLCS.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001276

Bacolkol, paano nila gagastusin yun? Hindi naman sila pwedeng mag-release sa ibang agency.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001277

So I'm just telling our observant.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001278

But I already wrote them about it.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001279

Second question. What's your BOR for the grants?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001280

Bababa ba yung utilization? Kasi yun siguro yung isa ko nakikita na pwede nating gamitin.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001281

98%.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001282

Sorry?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001283

98%.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001284

98%.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001285

With the previous scheme, wherein all the grants are centralized to OSEC. Director Vib,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001286

is there...

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001287

Is it possible?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001288

Is it like a written DBM policy in the budget preparation? Is there like a new internal

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001289

memo?

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001290

We have an internal memo po regarding it.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001291

Kasi yun actually din yung nakikita ko lang na downside. Again, I'm trying to see both

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001292

sides. Ang nakikita ko lang na downside dito, which is diniretso nyo na, hindi ka na pwede

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001293

mag...

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001294

Parang hindi ka naman pwede mag-negative sa ano dito na ibabalik mo sa OSEC, diba?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001295

Is it just like an outside agreement?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001296

I don't see it.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001297

I don't see any kind of, like, sort of, you know, you have a P200 million in grants and

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001298

you put it in your NEP, and it has just P200 million in it.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001299

So, this might result in a lower BOR if we take a look at it next year. Because, you

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001300

you kind of pre-determine how much would be needed by each of the attached agencies.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001301

Sorry, just to understand, I mean, I've been availing of grants also during my master's years,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001302

but it's really dynamic.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001303

When you do your budget preparation, you don't really know how many grantees you're going to have per attached agency.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001304

So you do it after the GAA is approved.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001305

Essentially, it's proposal-driven.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001306

For example, there are emergencies that might need to be responded to by DOST, not by DOST agencies,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001307

but I need experts, for example, oil spill.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001308

I need to ask experts from different universities to focus on that.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001309

So we get it from the GIA.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001310

We have a...

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001311

a program for that.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001312

But that program was transferred to PAGASA.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001313

So PAGASA cannot distribute the money.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001314

It was supposed to be distributed by the OSEC.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001315

So we will lose support in the emergency response.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001316

It's just an example, but just to make it clear.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001317

Yes, I understand, Sec.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001318

Director Vivian?

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001319

Yes, if I may, Madam Chair.

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001320

The basis of the GIA's 2027 level was the list of...

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001321

the ongoing R&D projects submitted by DOST.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001322

So, DOST, I can't understand why—

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001323

on these things

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001324

if the basis would be your ongoing r d it doesn't necessarily mean that um come 2027

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001325

those are still the same r d projects that would need to be funded by the grants

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001326

i think the the danger there is you don't know what to base it on for you to get an accurate

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001327

assessment of how much you would actually need in 2027. we may we i in this in this regard

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001328

May we ask the DOST to explain first?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001329

they're at 98 utilization

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001330

unless unless dbm has um uh has um opposition to that

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001331

the reason why we can maximize the use of money is that since it's a proposal driven so for example

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001332

if the subject is disaster reduction it's not simply if you evoke the pagasa that will implement

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001333

it we can fund other agencies that have a proposal so it means

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001334

that it will actually take away the flexibility of providing good proposals in the disaster field

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001335

because it's not simply if you have some pagasa that would implement that

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001336

uh

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001337

if we put it in the net that it's already lodged in the in the budget of the different agencies

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001338

you can't do a negative zero let's say for example

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001339

PHIVOLCS has a surplus of ₱100 million;

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001340

PAGASA needs ₱100 million.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001341

We can't transfer it anymore.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001342

Pero kunwari lang, nilagay natin sa OSEC, tapos na-download na ang SARO,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001343

and then all of a sudden, towards the end of the year,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001344

hindi ko magagamit. Sasabihin ni PAGASA,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001345

puwede mo pa i-negative SARO

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001346

para malipat mo sa ibang attached agency,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001347

'di ba? So, I mean, given the nature of the expenditure,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001348

the flexibility is needed in this case.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001349

the nature of the expenditure the flexibility is needed in this case

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001350

there's something with this 1.2 billion figure uh that we need to assess so um if you have concerns

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001351

director vivian on the side on the part of the dbm we can put a special provision to safeguard it to

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001352

add safeguards um just so you you know if you want additional safeguards to govern the way that

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001353

it's it's downloaded into the different attached

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001354

agencies but in a man but i think the flexibility has to be there so with

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001355

your permission we may re-centralize uh this to

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001356

to osec in the hgab if if you're amenable to that

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001357

yeah we respectfully differ

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001358

okay

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001359

so

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001360

respect

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001362

madam chair yes

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001363

we defer to the wisdom of congress

DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla

asr-001364

yes yes

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001365

that's it madam chair the wisdom of congress

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001366

and of course madam chair

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001367

i think

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001368

yung ginawa ng dbm is just an internal

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001369

agreement

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001370

so congress can do something

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001371

about it

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001372

na pwede natin titignan

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001373

or put it in the ga'a

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001374

bagong maga'a na safe to say

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001375

have it safeguards lang

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001376

can the flexibility

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001377

is so important considering

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001378

so many disasters and others

Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo

asr-001379

that's it

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001380

thank you thank you thank you um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001381

jj so

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001382

um again uh

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001383

thank you director vivian thank you for that it

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001384

means a lot um that you defer

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001385

uh to us uh i

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001386

would just have um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001387

if i may just request

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001388

uh for for you and

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001389

nikki to maybe do like

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001390

post post this hearing

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001391

uh process briefing rather um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001392

to have additional consultations

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001393

um between

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001394

uh dbm

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001395

and dost

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001396

for just for us to sort this out

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001397

siguro um director vivian if we can

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001398

request the dbm to already come

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001399

up with special provisions if you

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001400

think there are necessary special

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001401

provisions to govern this

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001402

particular um grant

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001403

um if you can draft that already

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001404

um sec if there are

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001405

um specific

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001406

we're easy on the part of the

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001407

dost as long as it's centralized um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001408

you're you're happy with that um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001409

but siguro just to just

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001410

to strike a compromise um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001411

between the intention

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001412

of dbm and also

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001413

of course the need of dost

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001414

uh for flexibility if

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001415

um if i may request um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001416

vice chair umben and vice chair

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001417

nikki to facilitate those

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001418

discussions between dbm and

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001419

dost so you know i

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001420

i saw the number and i

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001421

knew there was there was something

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001422

behind that number so um i

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001423

hope um that

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001424

helps um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001425

um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001426

i i

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001427

sorry

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001428

i

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001429

sorry

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001430

this is for you

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001431

questions

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001432

um the next

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001433

question boys with regard to the virology

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001434

institute as uh

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001435

every minute

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001436

um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001437

for for the ost

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001438

um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001439

proposal um sec is

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001440

do we have an indicative number as to

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001441

how much would be needed for the

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001442

virology institute

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001443

To finish Phases 1 and 2

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001444

buildings so that we can

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001445

now operate there in New Clark City,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001446

we need

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001447

₱800 million.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001448

For next year.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001449

And that, Sec., was in your Tier 1

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001450

proposal? Was it in

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001451

your Tier 1 proposal to DBM?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001452

It's an ongoing construction,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001453

so Tier 1 siya.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001454

Um, Director Viv—

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001455

Usually po,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001456

um, DPWH ang nag-a-allot doon.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001457

It's lodged under DPWH.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001458

Kaya lang, since

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001459

2026,

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001460

this year, tama? Wala nang [unclear] o walang na-allot.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001461

So,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001462

may we request

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001463

po,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001464

Sec., would it emanate from

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001465

um,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001466

from DOST, or

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001467

would that request emanate from DPWH?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001468

Just wanted to—

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001468-split-2

Sa amin na lang. Sa amin.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001469

Sa inyo na lang po. Okay.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001470

So that's the second—that's the first

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001471

request, actually. The second—sorry, the

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001472

first request was the grants. The second

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001473

request was with regard to the Virology

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001474

Institute. The third request

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001475

that you mentioned earlier, um,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001476

Sec., it was with regard to

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001477

the master's—

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001477-split-2

Master's.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001478

and PhD grants, leveling it with

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001479

CHED. Is there an indicative amount?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001480

₱309 million.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001481

₱309 million.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001482

Kapresyo noong Pisay last year, iyong

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001483

stipend—iyong increase in

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001484

stipend ng Pisay.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001485

How many master's and PhD

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001486

um,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001487

[unclear] takers?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001488

Around 5,000.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001489

5,000. And what would be the increase

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001490

for a master's grant?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001491

From ₱30,000 to

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001492

₱38,000. ₱38,000 is CHED; ₱30,000...

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001493

That's per semester? Per year?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001494

Per month.

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001495

Stipend per month.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001496

From ₱30,000 to ₱38,000 per month?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001497

And from ₱38,000 to ₱50,000 for PhD.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001498

Okay, so that's an

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001499

₱8,000 and a ₱12,000 increase

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001500

for the two.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001501

So if we may request,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001502

um,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001503

the Executive Director

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001504

of SEI knows this [unclear].

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001505

If we can request for

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001506

the same—um, the number

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001507

of—just a table

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001508

showing us the number of

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001509

grants,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001510

the amount for each,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001511

and so—

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001512

the amount that you projected,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001513

₱309 million, Sec., that's

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001514

your 2027 projection already?

DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.

asr-001515

Yes.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001516

Okay. Well, predictable naman kasi

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001517

two and four or five

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001518

years iyong PhD. Opo.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001519

okay so those are the three i

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001520

understand that although

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001521

in the earlier

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001522

questions they asked about other

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001523

constructions that

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001524

were not continued but start

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001525

already started saying

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001526

we have a list that we will submit okay

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001527

so so sec um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001528

you you're you

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001529

either you know this very well

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001530

we have limited fiscal space

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001531

uh we would really need to prioritize

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001532

um as

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001533

much as you know we would we

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001534

all here are in support of

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001535

increasing the budget of

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001536

dost we would also need to prioritize

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001537

so um

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001538

my request is when you

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001539

submit to us to the committee of

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001540

within the Committee on Appropriations, wherein we deliberate

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001541

that would contain

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001542

all of the wish list

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001543

would would contain your wish

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001544

list

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001545

Then siguro,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001546

kung kaya niyo rin po ipaliwanag sa amin

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001547

kung kailangan mabuo ito o puwedeng partial,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001548

para we know how best to help you out.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001549

The worst that could happen is

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001550

we give DOST additional funding,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001551

but it's not really the project

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001552

or the program that you really would like to prioritize.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001553

So, as you know, Sec.,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001554

we also did this last year.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001555

One of our biggest reforms is we've

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001556

established the Budget Amendments Review

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001557

Subcommittee within the Committee on Appropriations,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001558

wherein we deliberate all

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001559

the institutional amendment requests

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001560

emanating from the agency.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001561

So, my request lang siguro, Sec.,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001562

for us to be able to process all of the requests—

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001563

institutional amendment requests—in time,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001564

is if you could give it to us po ASAP,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001565

if possible, this week po,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001566

para, um, nandito po—there's another [unclear] member, two [unclear] members here—um, so para po may oras kami

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001567

na ma-deliberate po 'yung amendments.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001568

But again,

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001569

rest assured, we all here are in support of DOST.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001570

You've been doing so much good work

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001571

for our country and our respective localities and districts so we're very very grateful for all the

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001572

great work that the ost is doing and we would like to reciprocate that and thank that by also helping

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001573

you and enable you to have the resources you need to be able to perform your mandate better so

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001574

well you have partners here who would help advocate for the ost so that's it

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001575

po, kung we support na 'yon.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001576

Ayan po. SDS Dan po would like to add.

Rep. Dan S. Fernandez

asr-001577

No, this is just to add support to DOST. Iyong na-mention kanina na we should give really flexibility to

Rep. Dan S. Fernandez

asr-001578

DOST kasi wala naman kayong record of misuse of funds. Even iyong mga safeguard,

Rep. Dan S. Fernandez

asr-001579

hindi iyon importante. Iyong flexibility, because performing department ito, and nakita naman ninyo in terms of disaster,

Rep. Dan S. Fernandez

asr-001580

very reliable. So give the flexibility. Iyong safeguard parang hindi nga kailangan ito ng DOST kasi performing agency ito.

Rep. Dan S. Fernandez

asr-001581

Iyon lang.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001582

Totoo naman po iyon. Actually po, what struck me in your presentation, in your PowerPoint presentation, was

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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98% of the slides were all pertaining to accomplishments, iyong programs, projects.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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The three slides lang iyong tungkol sa numbers and sa budget.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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So it really goes to show na performing talaga iyong agency.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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And again, siguro para na po akong sirang plaka, I'm a product of DOST, Philippine Science High School System.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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So I owe it to PISAY and to DOST na all my love for—love for numbers, and the analytical—the analytical skills po were all because of that.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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So when I hear about the scholars and the grants and the—and the stipends, parang ako, ah, okay, at one point in my life talagang nagbenepisyo ako doon sa stipends namin sa PISAY.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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which at the time was ₱500 per month.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Pero ngayon, magkano na po? Four or five na, di ba?

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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₱2,000 na po iyong minimum. At that time, ₱500 per month po kami noon.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Pero laking bagay po noon talaga sa amin.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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So again, I would like to commend DOST and please know you have partners who will advocate for your budget.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Thank you. Thank you very much po.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

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Uh, Madam Chairperson, Mr. Chair,

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

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I move that

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

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we terminate the budget briefing of the Department of Science and Technology and its attached agencies.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

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I so move.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

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Any second?

Rep. Amben S. Amante

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It has been moved and seconded.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

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The motion is carried.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

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Ah, wait lang.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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One more motion pa po.

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Sorry, hindi tayo makakauwi nang wala 'tong other motion.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

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Thank you, Your Honors, and to our—and to our colleagues from the Department of Science and Technology for your valuable participation

Rep. Amben S. Amante

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in today's proceedings.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

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We, we likewise thank to the members of the Committee for their active participation.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

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Ah, Mr. Chair, uh, I move that we suspend the Committee proceedings and resume tomorrow, August 25, 2026, 9 a.m.

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

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I so move.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

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It has been moved and duly seconded.

Rep. Amben S. Amante

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The Committee proceedings are hereby suspended and will resume tomorrow, August 25, 2026, at 9 o'clock in the morning.