1 00:00:45,160 --> 00:01:10,560 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: 24 months or 2 years. But, uh, even though Virac radar is not functional, uh, the Bicol Region is not completely blind when it comes to, uh, the availability of data because there are redundant systems. Like, we have radar in Laoang, Northern Samar, in Daet, Camarines Norte, and even Masbate, we have radar. 2 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:29,941 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: So, uh, these three operational radars actually cover, uh, the area. Uh, yes, of course, we hope the Virac radar will be operationalized. Um, if not next year, at least we are confident by 2028 it will be operational. 3 00:01:31,159 --> 00:01:38,799 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Ah, siguro kasi kinaklaro lang natin kasi matagal na po ito. Siyempre, ginastusan na rin po ito. 4 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:39,840 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: So, ang nangyari kasi, 5 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,360 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Parang, ah, 6 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,920 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Nagiging view deck, viewing station na lang po. 7 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,320 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: ng mga, ano natin doon, mga 8 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:46,640 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: turista eh. 9 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,640 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: So, nakikita po na nakatiwangwang po yun. 10 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,280 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: So, alam naman natin 11 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,360 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: na Catanduanes na kami talagang 12 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,200 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: point of 13 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:56,600 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: origin 14 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,759 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: ng ating mga bagyo. So, siyempre, 15 00:01:58,759 --> 00:02:00,840 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: kami, alam naman natin 16 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,880 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: na minsan, doon kumukuha 17 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,560 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: pa nga dati, yung data 18 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,719 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: sa Japan, minsan doon 19 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:08,479 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: kumukuha sila. 20 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:09,959 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: So, kaya yun, 21 00:02:09,959 --> 00:02:11,959 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: itanong natin, 22 00:02:11,959 --> 00:02:14,160 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: kasi marami na po, nagtatanong 23 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,760 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: sa amin, ano ba yan? Talagang 24 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,519 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: pabayaan na ba yan? O gagawin pa ba yan? 25 00:02:19,519 --> 00:02:21,440 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: So, 26 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,480 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: narinig ko, 27 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,959 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: alam naman siguro, narinig dito 28 00:02:23,959 --> 00:02:25,519 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: ng mga taga sa amin, 29 00:02:25,519 --> 00:02:28,440 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: na maibabalik 30 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,280 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: ng operation 31 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,519 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: nito by 32 00:02:33,519 --> 00:02:34,840 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: next year. 33 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:35,879 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Okay. Thank you. 34 00:02:35,879 --> 00:02:37,760 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Thank you for that answer, 35 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,200 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Madam Chair. 36 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,400 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: So, Madam Chair, 37 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,959 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: According to the PSA, the Bicol Region 38 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:45,599 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: GDP 39 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:47,480 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: growth 40 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,920 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: ay, uh, 41 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:50,800 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: GDP grew 42 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,680 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: by only 0.5% 43 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,080 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: in 2025. 44 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,560 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: The lowest growth among all 45 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,680 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: regional 46 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,800 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: economies in the country, 47 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,800 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: taking a closer look, 48 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,680 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: agriculture, fisheries, and 49 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,640 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: forestry sector, 50 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:07,640 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: contracted by 51 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:10,680 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: 2.9%, 52 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,440 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: specifically 53 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,879 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: fisheries declined by 54 00:03:13,879 --> 00:03:16,680 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: 10.7%. 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,720 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: So, medyo nakakapagtaka po ito 56 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,440 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: dahil ang Bicol ay 57 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,400 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: napapaligiran po 58 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,480 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: ng mayamang 59 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,360 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: fishing ground at merong 60 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,840 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: significant potential para sa 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,599 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: aquaculture. 62 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:33,319 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: However, these natural 63 00:03:33,319 --> 00:03:35,360 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: advantages are not 64 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,519 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: being translated into a bigger 65 00:03:37,519 --> 00:03:40,739 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: share of our economy. 66 00:03:40,739 --> 00:03:43,591 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: So, 67 00:03:43,591 --> 00:03:44,760 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Sa Catanduanes naman po, 68 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,640 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: tumaas man po ang fisheries production 69 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,599 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: in 2025, pero 70 00:03:48,599 --> 00:03:50,159 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: mababa pa rin. 71 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:52,680 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Mababa pa rin po ang contribution 72 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:53,680 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: ito sa economic 73 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,840 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: ekonomiya ng probinsya. 74 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,360 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Given this, my question, 75 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:58,576 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Madam Chair, 76 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:02,360 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: where is the bottleneck in realizing 77 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,519 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: this potential, and has there 78 00:04:05,519 --> 00:04:08,760 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: been effort from the 79 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,079 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: DOST 80 00:04:10,079 --> 00:04:12,400 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: through its Philippine Council 81 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,159 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: for Agriculture, 82 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:16,400 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Aquatic and Natural Resources 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,320 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Research and Development, 84 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:17,840 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: PCAARRD, and other 85 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:20,680 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: relevant agencies and programs 86 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,520 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: to develop fisheries 87 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,600 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: and aquaculture in 88 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,680 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Catanduanes and the whole Bicol Region? 89 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,720 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Most importantly, 90 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,800 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: what has this 91 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,840 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: intervention achieved? 92 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:33,520 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: what measurable improvement 93 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,759 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: have we seen in 94 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:37,759 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: production, income, jobs 95 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:39,880 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: and/or 96 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,639 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: value adding? 97 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:43,227 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Madam Chair, 98 00:04:45,607 --> 00:04:47,759 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Madam Chair, may I request the Director 99 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:49,160 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: of PCAARRD to 100 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,500 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: respond to the question? 101 00:04:52,441 --> 00:04:53,200 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: Thank you, 102 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,000 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: Secretary. 103 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,240 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: Your Honor, PCAARRD is 104 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,360 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: presently implementing several projects 105 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,080 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: on aquaculture and marine resources 106 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,240 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: and some of those 107 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,160 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: are relevant to the situation in Catanduanes. 108 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,479 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: As of now, one of the 109 00:05:07,479 --> 00:05:09,280 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: biggest projects of PCAARRD is 110 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:11,600 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: actually on abaca, and Catanduanes 111 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,919 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: State University is heavily involved in this particular endeavor. 112 00:05:14,919 --> 00:05:20,280 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: In terms of the aquatic resources, we have two divisions working on it. 113 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:27,360 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: One is inland aquatic resources which are dealing with freshwater aquaculture species and marine resources. 114 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,880 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: So what we are going to do is we are going to look at the different programs that we have 115 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,520 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: and, uh, probably develop new programs that are targeting the needs of Catanduanes. 116 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:44,840 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: At present, there are several technologies being rolled out through the different regional offices and partner universities 117 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:54,840 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: and we are hoping that we will be able to facilitate the process by identifying the typical intervention that should be done. 118 00:05:54,840 --> 00:06:01,600 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: It's not only about the technology, it's also in terms of the technology transfer bottleneck. 119 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,080 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: In some cases, we need support from local government units 120 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,199 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: and also other departments of the government. 121 00:06:08,199 --> 00:06:13,639 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: For example, the Department of Agriculture under the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources. 122 00:06:13,639 --> 00:06:18,919 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: But we will make it a point that we are going to review the present initiatives that we have 123 00:06:18,919 --> 00:06:24,160 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: and have it further enhanced in order to address the needs of the province. 124 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,051 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: Thank you, Madam Chair. 125 00:06:26,485 --> 00:06:32,639 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Kasi sa ngayon, Mr. Chair, eh parang wala pa tayong nakikita roon. 126 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:36,880 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Kaya sabi ko nga, ito ngang 2027, 127 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,520 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: what fisheries and aquaculture programs and projects are proposed 128 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:46,027 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: And what measurable result do we expect? 129 00:06:47,191 --> 00:06:54,039 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: We are going to explore the possibility of expanding the Tilapia Program for Inland Aquatic Resources 130 00:06:54,039 --> 00:06:58,440 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: and also other marine resources that are available in the province. 131 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,080 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: Uh, there are several initiatives being undertaken by PCAARRD 132 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,240 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: involving the other provinces, and based on the experience that we have 133 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,680 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: obtained from those pilot testing, 134 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,080 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: then we are going to implement it also in Catanduanes. 135 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,199 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: But we will be closely coordinating with Catanduanes State University 136 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:18,400 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: because they are part of our network 137 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,780 DOST-PCAARRD Executive Director Dr. Reynaldo V. Ebora: and they are coordinating with our regional consortium. 138 00:07:24,350 --> 00:07:28,720 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Kaya po naitanong ko ito kasi ako po may bill ako rito. 139 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,680 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: So, Madam Chair, 140 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,039 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: masiguro lang po natin na matulungan natin ang ating mangingisda 141 00:07:35,039 --> 00:07:36,039 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: kasi, despite 142 00:07:36,039 --> 00:07:48,280 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: being the ones feeding our country, our fishers consistently rank among the basic sectors with high poverty incidence. 143 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:54,280 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Let's do our part in helping the sector that, that feeds us. 144 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,800 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Tulungan po natin ang ating mangingisda. 145 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,879 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Alam naman natin na ito ang talagang, ah, isa sa mga dapat nating tulungan. 146 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:04,057 Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez: Salamat po, ah, Madam Chair. 147 00:08:04,917 --> 00:08:06,892 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Thank you, Congressman Rodriguez. 148 00:08:07,887 --> 00:08:12,562 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Now, from the minority, Representative Sarah Jane Elago. 149 00:08:15,380 --> 00:08:15,886 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 150 00:10:04,966 --> 00:10:14,030 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: The issue now is to make sure that these are commercialized and procured by the appropriate organizations. 151 00:10:15,970 --> 00:10:21,870 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Our role has been to support the R&D and it's ready for commercialization. 152 00:10:21,870 --> 00:10:23,870 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: And that means that organizations... 153 00:10:24,650 --> 00:10:28,490 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: ...must be able to procure it for their use. 154 00:10:29,390 --> 00:10:31,630 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Iyon po iyong division ng role namin. 155 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:40,893 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: But definitely, we will promote this as we are still in constant dialogue with the technology producer at UP. 156 00:10:42,631 --> 00:10:50,509 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, natanong ko ho ito dahil marami ho sa ating ulat ang DOST na produkto ng kanilang R&D. 157 00:10:50,530 --> 00:10:54,490 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit, ang malaking problema, paano natitiyak na... 158 00:10:54,650 --> 00:11:08,390 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ...yung produkto ng siyensya na pananaliksik ng teknolohiya ay nagsisilbi para sa interes ng mga nangangailangan at para sa interes ng sambayan ng Pilipino. 159 00:11:08,390 --> 00:11:22,310 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya sa tingin ko, isa ito, historically, isa sa mga pinakamalaking gap pagdating sa kung paano nare-recognize ng ating national government yung trabaho ng DOST. 160 00:11:22,310 --> 00:11:24,310 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Napakayaman natin sa... 161 00:11:24,310 --> 00:11:41,250 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ...mga bagong impormasyon, teknolohiya, grabe yung wealth of innovation, na hindi na lang imagination, pero meron talagang mga hawak na tayo ng mga produkto, mga bagong serbisyo, pero hindi po nagagamit. 162 00:11:41,839 --> 00:11:51,509 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Iyan ho siguro ang isa sa dapat nating pag-isipan: paano makikipagtulungan sa DA, DTI, at ngayon iyong DOJ o kaya NBI. 163 00:11:51,639 --> 00:11:53,730 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na, marami ho sa mga... 164 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,069 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: biktima talaga, no, ng sexual assault. 165 00:11:57,110 --> 00:12:01,070 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nahihirapan ho sila doon pa lang sa proseso ng pag-report at pagsusumbong. 166 00:12:02,370 --> 00:12:08,950 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil alam nila na madalas doon ho tayo natitigil sa paghabol sa perpetrator. 167 00:12:09,450 --> 00:12:13,970 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil walang timely na collection ng evidence. 168 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:20,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung sila ho ay naging biktima ng iba't ibang porma ng sexual crimes. 169 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:21,530 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya ho... 170 00:12:22,230 --> 00:12:24,290 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ...may pag-aaral ho ba kayo? 171 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:41,785 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: O meron pong mga nag-sisimula ngayon ng kung paano ito maaaring ma-distribute sa ating halimbawa sa mga women and children protection unit sa ating mga public hospitals para po magamit ito sa ngayon? 172 00:12:42,190 --> 00:12:50,710 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Hindi lang po sa sexual assault kit technology ang issue ng scaling up on the use. 173 00:12:52,430 --> 00:12:54,150 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Nung nagsimula po kami, 174 00:12:54,310 --> 00:12:55,630 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: in 2022, 175 00:12:55,890 --> 00:13:00,830 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: the big gap is really to scale up the innovation that we have developed throughout the Philippines. 176 00:13:01,790 --> 00:13:02,870 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Commercialization issue. 177 00:13:03,610 --> 00:13:05,970 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: The problem is that sometimes, 178 00:13:06,790 --> 00:13:08,310 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: there is a... 179 00:13:12,990 --> 00:13:14,850 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: They don't want to take the risk. 180 00:13:14,970 --> 00:13:16,870 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: The investors don't want to take the risk. 181 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:18,550 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So that's why sometimes, 182 00:13:18,970 --> 00:13:21,530 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: what we do for those technologies na kailangan, 183 00:13:21,530 --> 00:13:23,030 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: but up to a certain point, 184 00:13:23,810 --> 00:13:24,530 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: yung R&D utilization, 185 00:13:25,370 --> 00:13:26,450 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: we provide some support, 186 00:13:26,490 --> 00:13:27,490 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: to produce this. 187 00:13:28,050 --> 00:13:31,050 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: And provide this to serve as use cases, 188 00:13:31,430 --> 00:13:37,010 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and hopefully the relevant organization can adopt this like DOJ and PNP. 189 00:13:37,450 --> 00:13:41,070 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So yun pong commercialization focus, meron po kaming programa. 190 00:13:41,510 --> 00:13:42,550 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: But at some point, 191 00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:44,730 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: hindi naman kami pwedeng... 192 00:13:45,270 --> 00:13:48,210 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: kami ang mag-produce at i-distribute lang yun. 193 00:13:48,410 --> 00:13:51,210 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So that's why it's important tulad po nung sinabi nyo, 194 00:13:51,570 --> 00:13:54,510 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that we deal directly with the appropriate agencies. 195 00:13:54,910 --> 00:13:56,470 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Now, with the Tatak Pinoy Act, 196 00:13:56,490 --> 00:14:00,710 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: I hope that this technology is supported by DOST 197 00:14:00,710 --> 00:14:02,990 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and produced by Filipino technologies 198 00:14:02,990 --> 00:14:06,570 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: will be given preferential treatment for purchase. 199 00:14:07,030 --> 00:14:08,210 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Especially with this kit, 200 00:14:08,330 --> 00:14:10,930 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: kasi yung DNA talaga yung makakatulong 201 00:14:10,930 --> 00:14:12,570 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: pag-preserve ng evidence 202 00:14:12,570 --> 00:14:14,767 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: at mahanap yung culprit. 203 00:14:15,661 --> 00:14:17,130 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nakakabahala, Mr. Chair. 204 00:14:17,230 --> 00:14:17,790 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Halimbawa, 205 00:14:18,250 --> 00:14:21,310 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: alam ho natin na hindi pa nga lang sa level ng DOST, 206 00:14:21,550 --> 00:14:22,990 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: iyong sa PSHS system, 207 00:14:22,990 --> 00:14:26,470 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa mga LGU-funded scientists, 208 00:14:26,490 --> 00:14:27,410 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa high schools natin, 209 00:14:27,870 --> 00:14:30,910 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang daming mga ginagawang mga bagong produkto 210 00:14:30,910 --> 00:14:33,730 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na high-value products, 211 00:14:33,830 --> 00:14:37,490 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nanggaling sa ating agricultural products. 212 00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:41,730 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero nakita natin kung paano sa Pilipinas din, 213 00:14:41,830 --> 00:14:43,570 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga hindi na-deliver na carrot, 214 00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:45,370 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sibuyas, cabbage, 215 00:14:45,690 --> 00:14:48,390 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at iba pang mga produkto sa agrikultura, 216 00:14:48,530 --> 00:14:50,510 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay tinatapon lamang nung mga magsasaka. 217 00:14:51,130 --> 00:14:52,450 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang ibig ko pong sabihin dito, 218 00:14:52,550 --> 00:14:54,270 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay kung paano ba natin matitiyak 219 00:14:54,270 --> 00:14:56,270 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na yung wealth ng natural resources, 220 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin, 221 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: through our R&D, 222 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: our S&T. 223 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagagamit talaga 224 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa pangkabuuang 225 00:15:04,020 --> 00:15:05,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagpapaunlad ng yaman 226 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Pilipinas. So, 227 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on to my last set 228 00:15:09,980 --> 00:15:10,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of questions. 229 00:15:12,220 --> 00:15:13,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kakampi ninyo ako, 230 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa tingin ko, 231 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:18,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: halos lahat kami 232 00:15:18,140 --> 00:15:19,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito, kung hindi man kami lahat, 233 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:22,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mananawagan na 234 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ma-restore lahat ng budget cuts 235 00:15:23,940 --> 00:15:25,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dun sa 2026 level. 236 00:15:26,020 --> 00:15:27,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At kung maaari pa nga na madagdagan pa 237 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa mga nangangailangan na agencies. 238 00:15:30,700 --> 00:15:32,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang sunod kong katanungan 239 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: DOST-FNRI 240 00:15:34,460 --> 00:15:36,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang FNRI po 241 00:15:36,220 --> 00:15:37,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang nagdidesenyo ng mga 242 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: menu bundles na 243 00:15:39,580 --> 00:15:41,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makakamit sa 244 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: minimum nutritional requirements 245 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kada tao 246 00:15:45,620 --> 00:15:47,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para siya ay manatiling 247 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:49,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: malusog at 248 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: produktibo. Sa ngayon po ba, 249 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ano ho yung amount 250 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na basis ninyo ng paggawa 251 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:56,759 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga menu bundles na ito? 252 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,610 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: May I ask the director of 253 00:16:01,610 --> 00:16:02,885 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: FNRI to respond. 254 00:16:02,885 --> 00:16:05,160 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Yes po. Thank you po, sir. 255 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,110 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Madam Congresswoman, 256 00:16:07,230 --> 00:16:09,530 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Naka-base po kami doon sa mga reference values natin 257 00:16:09,530 --> 00:16:11,570 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: sa PDRI. So, iyong mga 258 00:16:11,570 --> 00:16:13,510 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: basis po natin, for example, yung mga na-develop 259 00:16:13,510 --> 00:16:15,490 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: natin, we have to make sure that at least 260 00:16:15,490 --> 00:16:16,600 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: one-third of the requirement po 261 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,532 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: ay nami-meet. 262 00:16:18,106 --> 00:16:21,050 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Magkano po ito, Mr. Chair? 263 00:16:21,510 --> 00:16:23,310 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kada meal, or per person per day, 264 00:16:23,410 --> 00:16:24,029 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: magkano po ito sa ngayon? 265 00:16:24,029 --> 00:16:26,932 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Can you wind up, Congresswoman Elago, on your question? 266 00:16:26,932 --> 00:16:28,890 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Well, at the moment po, 267 00:16:29,730 --> 00:16:31,530 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: cannot give the exact figure ng 268 00:16:31,530 --> 00:16:33,030 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: computation kasi marami pong 269 00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:35,370 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: considerations 270 00:16:35,370 --> 00:16:36,330 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: dun sa computation. 271 00:16:37,690 --> 00:16:39,650 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: But when was the last time 272 00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:41,444 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: you designed these original menu bundles? 273 00:16:41,444 --> 00:16:43,730 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: There was a study conducted 274 00:16:43,730 --> 00:16:45,530 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: in 2023 na ginawa po 275 00:16:45,530 --> 00:16:46,530 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: among adolescents. 276 00:16:48,050 --> 00:16:49,530 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: And at that 277 00:16:49,530 --> 00:16:51,670 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: moment, pero 2023 po yung 278 00:16:51,670 --> 00:16:53,350 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: basis, meron pong 279 00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:55,630 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: around ₱30.25. But that's 280 00:16:55,630 --> 00:16:57,458 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: 2023 figures po. 281 00:16:57,998 --> 00:16:59,569 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Opo. All right. So, for the 282 00:16:59,570 --> 00:17:01,890 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: years 2022 to 2023, 283 00:17:02,090 --> 00:17:03,470 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: what was the basis then 284 00:17:03,470 --> 00:17:05,470 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: for the amount? Gusto ko lang makakuha 285 00:17:05,470 --> 00:17:07,410 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng figure, Mr. Chair. 286 00:17:07,550 --> 00:17:09,910 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasi, syempre, mahalaga din ito sa pag-establish 287 00:17:09,910 --> 00:17:10,857 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating food poverty threshold. 288 00:17:10,857 --> 00:17:13,470 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Yes po. Ang basis po during that 289 00:17:13,470 --> 00:17:15,130 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: time ay, of course, yung mga market value 290 00:17:15,130 --> 00:17:17,230 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: ng mga raw materials na naka-include doon sa 291 00:17:17,230 --> 00:17:19,090 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: mga recipe po na dinevelop ng FNRI. 292 00:17:19,790 --> 00:17:21,770 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: The formula 293 00:17:21,770 --> 00:17:22,590 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: itself is 294 00:17:22,590 --> 00:17:25,670 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: within, nandun po sa mga 295 00:17:25,670 --> 00:17:27,670 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: kasama po natin sa FNRI na nag-develop 296 00:17:27,670 --> 00:17:28,770 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: nito. And, 297 00:17:29,570 --> 00:17:32,010 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: of course, given po yung 298 00:17:32,010 --> 00:17:33,550 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: mga current po na mga 299 00:17:33,550 --> 00:17:34,720 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: prices po ngayon ng mga raw materials, 300 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,000 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: puwede po nating i-input iyong mga iyon and we can 301 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:37,958 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: have the calculation. 302 00:17:38,735 --> 00:17:41,850 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sorry, Mr. Chair. Gusto ko lang makuha talaga yung amount. 303 00:17:41,950 --> 00:17:43,898 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasi, hindi pa po nabibigay yung amount. 304 00:17:43,898 --> 00:17:45,670 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Maybe you can ask the question for the second round. 305 00:17:45,670 --> 00:17:47,310 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes, opo. So, 306 00:17:47,810 --> 00:17:49,770 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: how much was the amount 307 00:17:49,770 --> 00:17:50,817 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: back then? Years 2022 to 2023? 308 00:17:50,817 --> 00:17:53,590 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: This is for the meals for adolescents po. 309 00:17:53,670 --> 00:17:55,650 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: It's around 30 pesos and 25 310 00:17:55,650 --> 00:17:55,812 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: centavos. 311 00:17:55,812 --> 00:17:56,082 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Right. 312 00:17:56,082 --> 00:17:56,656 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Opo. 313 00:17:57,044 --> 00:17:59,490 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: I ask this question, Mr. 314 00:17:59,570 --> 00:18:01,290 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Chair, at hingin ko na rin po yung pinakahuli 315 00:18:01,290 --> 00:18:03,470 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ninyong pag-aaral dito. At kung may plano kayo para 316 00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:05,810 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga susunod. Mahalaga 317 00:18:05,810 --> 00:18:07,050 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ito, Mr. Chair, kasi 318 00:18:07,050 --> 00:18:09,110 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang pinakahuli pong 319 00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:11,370 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ulat ng DBM dito sa 320 00:18:11,370 --> 00:18:13,310 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kongreso, nung sila ay nagpunta 321 00:18:13,310 --> 00:18:15,550 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito para sa presentation 322 00:18:15,550 --> 00:18:17,730 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng 2027 budget 323 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:19,490 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ang poverty 324 00:18:19,490 --> 00:18:21,790 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ₱111 325 00:18:21,790 --> 00:18:23,390 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pesos sa NCR. 326 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:25,550 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ₱77, 327 00:18:25,550 --> 00:18:27,490 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 77 pesos. So, 328 00:18:27,490 --> 00:18:29,410 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: around ₱26 per meal. 329 00:18:29,570 --> 00:18:31,470 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mas maliit pa po 330 00:18:31,470 --> 00:18:33,610 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Outside NCR, around ₱23 331 00:18:33,610 --> 00:18:35,450 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: per meal. At sinasabi niyo ho 332 00:18:35,450 --> 00:18:37,510 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngayon, 2022-2023 333 00:18:37,510 --> 00:18:39,750 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: figure, hindi pa po yan adjusted 334 00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:41,610 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: based sa inflation. 30 335 00:18:41,610 --> 00:18:43,770 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pesos na. So, hindi po talaga 336 00:18:43,770 --> 00:18:45,670 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makatotohanan yung ginagamit natin 337 00:18:45,670 --> 00:18:47,530 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngayon na subsistence threshold. 338 00:18:47,710 --> 00:18:49,630 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At kinakailangan na natin yung i-update 339 00:18:49,630 --> 00:18:51,550 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung gusto talaga natin ng 340 00:18:51,550 --> 00:18:53,410 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makatotohanan na 341 00:18:53,410 --> 00:18:55,330 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: presentasyon ng kalagayan 342 00:18:55,330 --> 00:18:57,929 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating mamamayang Pilipino. Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair. 343 00:18:57,963 --> 00:18:58,560 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Thank you, 344 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,140 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Congresswoman Elago. Now, 345 00:19:00,140 --> 00:19:01,692 Rep. Amben S. Amante: from the majority, 346 00:19:02,603 --> 00:19:04,440 Rep. Amben S. Amante: last from the majority, 347 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,877 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Congresswoman Bella Suansing. 348 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,919 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 349 00:19:08,919 --> 00:19:09,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Good evening, everyone. 350 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just a couple of questions to the 351 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,639 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: good secretary and the DOST family. 352 00:19:15,159 --> 00:19:16,339 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: First, we're very happy 353 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,859 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to hear that agriculture, 354 00:19:18,919 --> 00:19:21,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: smart agriculture, is one of the priorities 355 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:23,559 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the DOST. 356 00:19:23,559 --> 00:19:24,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, can the good secretary 357 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,159 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: please orient the committee 358 00:19:27,159 --> 00:19:29,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: on the process 359 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: called Project SARAI, 360 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:32,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or Smarter Approaches 361 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to Reinvigorate Agriculture 362 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:36,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as an Industry. 363 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in the Philippines? So, here, 364 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in the presentation was mentioned 365 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:41,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that 366 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,799 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there's crop nutrient 367 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:47,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: management, pero merong community 368 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: level enhanced agricultural 369 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,319 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: monitoring system. 370 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But also, 371 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I guess these are linked to 372 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,799 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the mobile applications, and there are a lot 373 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:58,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of different apps that were mentioned. 374 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:00,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Can we get, 375 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: can this committee be oriented 376 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with the process of SARAI? 377 00:20:05,679 --> 00:20:06,259 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Thank you, 378 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:07,700 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Your Honor. 379 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:11,000 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Essentially, Project SARAI was our R&D 380 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,200 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: program funded by 381 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,520 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: DOST-PCAARRD, 382 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,159 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and, of course, monitored 383 00:20:17,159 --> 00:20:18,880 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and funded by DOST 384 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,880 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and implemented by UPLB before 385 00:20:21,919 --> 00:20:23,280 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and now being operated 386 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,620 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: at the regional level. 387 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,919 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: It integrates satellite remote 388 00:20:26,919 --> 00:20:28,640 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: sensing, GIS and crop mapping, 389 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,940 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: weather and rainfall data, 390 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,339 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: crop forecasting and modeling, 391 00:20:32,919 --> 00:20:34,460 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: pest and disease monitoring, 392 00:20:34,919 --> 00:20:36,440 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: water and nutrient management, 393 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,899 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: digital mobile applications, those will be the guide, 394 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,919 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and site-specific 395 00:20:40,919 --> 00:20:42,960 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: crop advisories. And as we 396 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,760 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: move along, there can be 397 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,760 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: other applications that can be developed 398 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,880 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: depending on the areas. 399 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,840 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: But these are essentially the core 400 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,320 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: activities under the project. 401 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,159 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 402 00:20:59,159 --> 00:21:00,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, Project 403 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:02,039 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Project SARAI 404 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:04,039 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: rolled out in which regions? 405 00:21:04,039 --> 00:21:05,080 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Lahat po ng region. 406 00:21:06,159 --> 00:21:07,880 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: It depends on the commodity 407 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,120 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that the local government and the farmers would want 408 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:11,960 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: to look into. And even 409 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,919 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: in NCR. So, we have urban 410 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:16,180 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: farming here in NCR. 411 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:17,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. Thank you. 412 00:21:19,039 --> 00:21:20,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Would these, would 413 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Project SARAI 414 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it, I assume, 415 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: takes from soil 416 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: samples, so 417 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Project SARAI 418 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:32,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the planting of specific 419 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: varieties of crops? 420 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,060 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Essentially, soil health and soil 421 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,960 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: classification needs to be done 422 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,120 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: so that we can look at the best 423 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:42,300 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: possible agricultural crop that 424 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:44,720 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: must be planted. 425 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,820 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: But in the operationalization 426 00:21:46,159 --> 00:21:48,120 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: of Project SARAI, we don't 427 00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:49,919 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: restrict the use 428 00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:51,879 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: of other technologies 429 00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:54,180 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: beyond SARAI. Because, for example, 430 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,799 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: the other 431 00:21:55,799 --> 00:21:57,600 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: technology using seaweed as foliar 432 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,840 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: fertilizer that can increase 433 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,580 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: rice production up to 30%, 434 00:22:02,159 --> 00:22:04,080 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: although not part of Project SARAI, 435 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,179 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: can be implemented. 436 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,200 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So, it supplements the fertilizer 437 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,099 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: placed on the soil 438 00:22:10,679 --> 00:22:11,919 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and it, 439 00:22:11,919 --> 00:22:13,840 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: for all the commodities that we have 440 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,720 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: looked into and used it, lahat 441 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,080 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: nag-i-increase ang production. 442 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,440 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Even Smart Agri. 443 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,799 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: The project does not 444 00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:24,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: go into Smart Aqua. So, we're also introducing 445 00:22:24,039 --> 00:22:26,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Aqua. So, we're also introducing 446 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:27,579 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: the Smart Aqua technologies, 447 00:22:28,039 --> 00:22:29,940 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: also supported by DOST, 448 00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:30,799 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: through DOST-PCAARRD. 449 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:32,360 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: DOST-PCAARRD is 450 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:35,919 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: the Agri-Aqua sectoral council. 451 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:38,660 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Agri-Aqua technologies po ang focus natin. 452 00:22:38,919 --> 00:22:40,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 453 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Related, 454 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:43,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: my next question. 455 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, we were given a good 456 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: presentation on 457 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the projects, the R&D 458 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,159 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: projects, and the 459 00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:53,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: resulting products for 460 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: major crop commodities, 461 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:57,479 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: smart aquaculture, 462 00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,919 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and then, 463 00:22:59,919 --> 00:23:01,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: environmental sustainability, 464 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,539 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: circular economy initiatives. 465 00:23:04,279 --> 00:23:05,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Are there efforts on the part of 466 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DOST to link with 467 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the Department of Agriculture, 468 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:11,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: like all of the programs of 469 00:23:12,679 --> 00:23:14,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: our national government agencies 470 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:16,119 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to use climate-smart 471 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: methods? 472 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: There are always 473 00:23:20,039 --> 00:23:22,159 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: efforts, especially through 474 00:23:22,159 --> 00:23:24,460 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: with DOST-PCAARRD, 475 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: would be one of our 476 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:27,459 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: governing council members. 477 00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:30,379 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: We are also, especially, 478 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,559 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: into coconut 479 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:34,000 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and dairy, so we're also part 480 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: of that board. Now, of course, 481 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: the utilization 482 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: of the technologies that we have 483 00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:42,480 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: developed might 484 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,340 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: not be 100%, but 485 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,520 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: at our regional 486 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and provincial offices, once 487 00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:49,660 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: we introduce these technologies, 488 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:51,480 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: or through the consortia 489 00:23:52,919 --> 00:23:54,360 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: of PCAARRD. 490 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,159 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: these technologies can be implemented 491 00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:57,619 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: locally as well. 492 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 493 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The reason why I bring it up is 494 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:03,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I'm part of the Task Force El Niño. 495 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DOST is the 496 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: co-chairperson of the OCD. 497 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It would be good, given that 498 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's a 499 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,679 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 35-minute 500 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: presentation by the DOST of all the things 501 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that you already accomplished, 502 00:24:17,919 --> 00:24:20,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and all of the projects that you 503 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,159 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: already have completed, and all of the 504 00:24:22,159 --> 00:24:23,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: technologies that resulted to it. 505 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: El Niño, 506 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's super El Niño now. 507 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:29,799 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This has to be, 508 00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:31,559 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at the forefront of 509 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:33,479 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: our national consciousness. 510 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Climate-smart 511 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: agriculture, first is 512 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a daunting idea to everyone, 513 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but apparently, the DOST is already 514 00:24:43,159 --> 00:24:44,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: implementing and has 515 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: completed projects that directly 516 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: address these problems. 517 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,679 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For example, if climate 518 00:24:50,679 --> 00:24:52,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: change results to the acidity 519 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of soils, but 520 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Project SARAI 521 00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:58,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or iyong SARAI, 522 00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,679 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: potential na 523 00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:01,379 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: recommendation for particular 524 00:25:02,399 --> 00:25:03,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: pilot areas, 525 00:25:04,679 --> 00:25:05,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: sana po, 526 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: siguro panawagan ito sa 527 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: lahat po na nakikinig, na 528 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ang dami na pong teknolohiya 529 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,919 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: na na-develop ang DOST. 530 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:15,799 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Sana po, ma-integrate 531 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:17,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: natin sa mga programa po ng 532 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pambansang Pamahalaan, 533 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:20,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Nasasayang po eh. 534 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:23,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: grabe po, iyong impact nito 535 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DOST family, all of the 536 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: attached agencies, sana po at 537 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ma-incorporate po natin. 538 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,000 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Thank you, 539 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,460 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Congresswoman. 540 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,640 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: At first, we tried to 541 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,559 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: advertise the different 542 00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:40,480 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: technologies that we have for agriculture 543 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,720 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: by developing 544 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,580 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: use cases or pilots. 545 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,679 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: But we felt 546 00:25:46,679 --> 00:25:47,859 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that the 547 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,680 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: implementation is not accelerated 548 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: at the rate 549 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:54,559 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: by which climate change 550 00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:55,479 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: would affect our 551 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,799 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: farmers and fisher folk. 552 00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:00,240 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So that's why we decided, 553 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,880 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that we implement 554 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,000 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: these technologies at the regional level 555 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,239 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: where we will collaborate 556 00:26:05,799 --> 00:26:07,799 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: with departments like DA, 557 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:09,520 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: the provincial and local governments, 558 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,240 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and the cooperatives 559 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,540 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: or specific farmer 560 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:14,780 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: partner. 561 00:26:16,159 --> 00:26:18,000 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: For example, for the El Nino 562 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,120 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Task Force, we actually 563 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: developed the 564 00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:22,959 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: platform for 565 00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:25,880 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: providing the information and monitoring 566 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,900 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: the different interventions. 567 00:26:28,399 --> 00:26:29,640 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: But in this year, 568 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,199 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: we specifically asked 569 00:26:31,919 --> 00:26:34,180 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that interventions developed by DOST 570 00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:35,720 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and, of course, 571 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,500 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: through PCAARRD, 572 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,439 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: be part of the intervention. 573 00:26:39,919 --> 00:26:41,040 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: For example, 574 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:43,520 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: the use of water for irrigation, 575 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,559 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: drip irrigation, 576 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:45,699 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: furrow irrigation. 577 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:48,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: We have, in Region 3, 578 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:48,860 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: developed the 579 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,679 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: solar irrigation trailer unit. 580 00:26:51,679 --> 00:26:52,219 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Usually, 581 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,440 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: we develop irrigation systems 582 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,399 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that are permanent, 583 00:26:57,399 --> 00:26:58,479 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: but solarized. 584 00:26:58,919 --> 00:26:59,679 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: But it's kind of a 585 00:26:59,679 --> 00:27:00,219 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: very expensive. 586 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,440 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So what they have done there 587 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,699 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: with Nueva Ecija Science and Technology University 588 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,919 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: is to develop this mobile trailer unit 589 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:11,160 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that after you irrigate 590 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,320 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: one farmer's land, 591 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,080 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: then this can be pulled by a 592 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,240 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: or tricycle or a jeepney 593 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,080 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: so that another farm can be irrigated. 594 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,719 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: It taps surface water or shallow water wells. 595 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:26,240 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So in essence, 596 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,760 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: dalawa po ang ating ina-address: 597 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,520 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: iyong availability ng 598 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:29,900 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: tubig, 599 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:32,300 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: saka tipid sa 600 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,960 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: diesel na usually ginagamit. 601 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,860 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So iyon po iyong mga... 602 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,360 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: I mentioned during the 603 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:39,680 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Congressional hearing on 604 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:42,539 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: the energy crisis here. 605 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,519 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So we have those technologies 606 00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:46,099 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and we hope that 607 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,960 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: we can actually provide this technology 608 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,620 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and local governments will avail of this 609 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,339 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: so that we can manage the forthcoming El Nino. 610 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:57,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you. 611 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,099 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 612 00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,719 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. Actually, 613 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,679 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is this really good chart 614 00:28:02,679 --> 00:28:03,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that you showed 615 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,839 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: on smart flood management approaches. 616 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Actually, under, 617 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:09,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if I remember correctly, 618 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,559 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: under the 2026 GAA, 619 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,559 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is supposed to be the establishment 620 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:14,679 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the integrated water resource 621 00:28:14,679 --> 00:28:17,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and flood mitigation strategy. 622 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So again, 623 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,279 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: my compliments to the DOST. 624 00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:29,279 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just quickly, 625 00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:33,039 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: chineck ko po iyong HANDA portal ninyo po. 626 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:37,799 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mayroon kasi po ditong emergency SOS na area. 627 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I wonder po kung paano po nafi-feedback iyong health authorities. 628 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:41,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Is it 629 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: through the LGUs 630 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,499 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or is it through the DOH central office? 631 00:28:46,679 --> 00:28:47,480 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Well, okay. 632 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,320 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: The HANDA integrated platform, 633 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,760 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: I think is one of the most advanced platform 634 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,560 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: for disaster preparedness and response 635 00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:58,360 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that I think the country would be proud of. 636 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,379 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: It integrates, 637 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,960 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: all early warning systems 638 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,880 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that both the LGUs and the public can avail of. 639 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,939 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: And if your concern is your community only, 640 00:29:08,399 --> 00:29:11,200 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: you can expand by clicking on the radios. 641 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,480 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: But we have also systems there 642 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,180 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that can be tailored fit for the LGUs 643 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,620 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: or the national OCD. 644 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,240 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So your SOS or reporting an incident can be activated 645 00:29:26,679 --> 00:29:29,440 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: if the LGU that would use that platform, 646 00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:31,200 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: would want it. 647 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,080 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Kasi ayaw naming i-on 648 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,720 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: kung ang mga citizen ay magre-report, 649 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,780 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: wala namang magma-manage. 650 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,920 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So it depends on the LGU if they really want. 651 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:44,120 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: The other feature of that platform is 652 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,620 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: you can use AI chatbot to ask about 653 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,640 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: one, the hazards that they can be affected with 654 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,360 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: or plan the evacuation route 655 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,000 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that they would take from their place 656 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,399 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: to the nearest evacuation site. 657 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,080 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: And it depends on the needs of the LGU. 658 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:08,000 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: We can customize some of some of the interventions that they want. So ito po ay hindi tapos. It's really 659 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:14,760 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: already good, but now, depending on the needs of the LGU, kung marami pa silang naiisip na innovation that can also be 660 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:25,360 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: added. But I think we just launched it last March this year, and I think this can be very powerful for the Office of Civil Defense and the LGUs to use. 661 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:34,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Chair. The evacuation centers were mapped by DOST, or did you get the data from the OCD? 662 00:30:39,159 --> 00:30:40,559 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Whatever evacuation site that 663 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:48,560 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: the DILG and OCD have selected, then we put it in the software so that, using AI, this can now be 664 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:55,080 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: provided to the person who would ask the nearest evacuation from 665 00:30:55,679 --> 00:30:56,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: their 666 00:30:56,039 --> 00:31:02,159 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: residence or where they are. So the app will use the location of your 667 00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:07,360 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: cell phone, the GPS, so it will automatically assess the hazard where you are. 668 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:19,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Last po, Mr. Secretary, you mentioned the Science for Peace program with the former combatants of the 669 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:25,029 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: MILF. Can we please be oriented about the program for Science for Peace? 670 00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:26,559 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Okay. 671 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,240 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: The Office of the Presidential Adviser on Peace, Reconciliation 672 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:41,780 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and Unity approached us through DOST Region XII, asking if we were willing to help them 673 00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:47,379 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: solve the issues that they have in helping the former combatants in 674 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,219 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: BARMM, and we decided, for the first phase, 675 00:31:53,799 --> 00:32:02,919 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: to help six former MILF camps. One is to address the lack of potable water. Second is to do the 676 00:32:02,919 --> 00:32:09,639 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: interventions for livelihood so we have catfish production and they use 677 00:32:09,639 --> 00:32:15,360 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: purified water out of the SAFEWATRS that we developed. The DOST-ITDI developed 678 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,000 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: it. It's cost-effective, very easy to use. You just replace the membrane, mag-order 679 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,779 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: ka lang sa Lazada or Shopee. Palitan mo lang iyon, madali. 680 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:32,520 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So tuwang-tuwa na sila doon kasi they can use it for drinking and, of course, for raising the catfish. 681 00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:37,859 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Also halal production of bread— 682 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:44,000 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: pinakamasarap na pandesal na natikman ko sa Camp Sarmiento—and also weaving. 683 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:50,880 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: We provided them satellite Starlink and library in a box 684 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,760 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: so that the kids would also be able to learn. 685 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:59,320 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So I think what we need to do is 686 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:04,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: provide them the opportunity to use science and technology and really solve 687 00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:13,480 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: their basic needs water livelihood even clothing if possible and we will have 688 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:20,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: another phase. This is the concept that we have: if we develop conflict areas using 689 00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:24,720 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: science technology and innovation then people will believe that they can 690 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,960 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: actually uplift their own lives and eventually because of their preoccupation 691 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:35,279 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: to really improving their lives, they would be more focused on peace. 692 00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:44,919 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: They wanted to really experience a life that is really good. Ayaw naman nila ng conflict. 693 00:33:44,919 --> 00:33:50,240 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: The real issue now is to provide them the opportunity and for them to trust 694 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,360 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: our intervention. Yun po yung kailangan eh. Hindi ka puwedeng magbigay lang ng 695 00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:00,639 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: technology intervention tapos iiwanan mo. Minsan iyan ang problem ng development 696 00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:04,559 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: partners kasi wala naman sila doon sa baba. Puwede silang tumulong, but 697 00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:08,399 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: they have to leave sometimes. So importante na ma-capacitate natin ang 698 00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:12,800 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: ating mga kababayan and not leave them. Thank you. 699 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:19,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Those are my questions, but a brief manifestation, if I may. 700 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you to the DOST family. 701 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I specifically would want to thank 702 00:34:25,720 --> 00:34:32,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: si Director Toto, Dr. Toto Bacolcol, at si Dr. Servando. 703 00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:35,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Taga-Sultan Kudarat po ako. 704 00:34:38,919 --> 00:34:44,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Noong Enero po, na-hit po kami ng earthquake swarms. 705 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ilang preemptive evacuation po 706 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ang kinailangan naming gawin. 707 00:34:49,879 --> 00:34:57,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Sobrang nakatulong po sila Director Bacolcol at mga kaibigan natin sa PHIVOLCS, 708 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: hindi lang sa pag-monitor ng tsunami warnings, 709 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but even bumaba po sila para sa hazard mapping, 710 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: sa REDAS seminar sa buong coastal namin sa Kalamansig, Lebak, at Palimbang. 711 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Maraming-maraming salamat po kay Director Toto 712 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at sa lahat po ng kaibigan natin sa PHIVOLCS, 713 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at kay Dr. Servando po, 714 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: na grabe po 'yung pagkulit ko sa kanya 715 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: noong nag-start po 'yung advisory sa El Niño, 716 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kasi ang Sultan Kudarat po ay isa sa mga pinaka-vulnerable 717 00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:32,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: sa super El Niño pagdating. 718 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,839 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So maraming-maraming salamat po 719 00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:36,079 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: sa DOST family sa lahat po ng tulong ninyo, 720 00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:37,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and rest assured po, 721 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: suportado po natin hindi lang po 'yung budget ninyo, 722 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,679 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: pero pati 'yung pagdagdag 723 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ng budget ninyo sa DOST. 724 00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:45,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Maraming-maraming salamat po. 725 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,020 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Thank you, Kong Bella. 726 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,860 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Now, from the minority, 727 00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,480 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Congressman Antonio Tinio. 728 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you chair. 729 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah ilang mga paglilinaw sa proposed budget 730 00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:14,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so total budget uh proposed 30.8 731 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:21,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no, na mas mababa kaysa GAA ngayon na 32.1 billion. 732 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So nabawasan. Tapos 733 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung tinitignan natin yung budget ng DOST and attached 734 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,799 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of course there's a reduction in the sa Office of the Secretary. 735 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:39,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos sa mga attached agencies merong mga you know ah malaki rin. 736 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:47,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example, PAGASA, nabawasan po by 2 point... 737 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano itong nabawas dito? 738 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,839 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It's a 12.5% 739 00:36:52,839 --> 00:36:53,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 740 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, so PAGASA, 741 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano pong explanation? Bakit 742 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,319 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mas mababa po ang ang proposal ng PAGASA? Um, 743 00:37:04,319 --> 00:37:05,980 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Dr. Servando, can you respond? 744 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,600 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: Thank you, Secretary. 745 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:17,579 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: Your Honor, the reduction of our budget for 2027 746 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,720 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: on the uh capital outlay because some projects 747 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,280 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: for the 2026 748 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,880 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: ay hindi na kailangang mapunduhan na next year 749 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,079 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: like example sa pag-establish ng warning system 750 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:33,539 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: sa isang river basin 751 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,760 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: so dahil funded na this year 752 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,139 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: so tinanggal na siya for next year. 753 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:47,760 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: One [unclear] equipment, like an X-band radar, 754 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,840 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: to be established in one of the river basin 755 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,680 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: ay hindi naman kailangang punduhan again 756 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,280 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: so uh the reduction is about on the capital outlay 757 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,239 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: that uh we're already excluded for next year. 758 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:01,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 759 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So hindi naman nabawasan iyung ah operations or anything. 760 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:07,720 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: Hindi naman po. 761 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:08,920 PAGASA Administrator Nathaniel T. Servando: In fact, may increase po. 762 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sige. Capital outlay. 763 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:19,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah ang isa pa pong tampok dito ay yung bawas sa Food and Nutrition Research Institute 764 00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:25,079 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from uh 1.1 billion naging 634 million 765 00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:26,899 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na lang. Ano pong explanation non? 766 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,420 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: May I ask the director? 767 00:38:30,839 --> 00:38:34,760 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: I would surmise it's the building that they need to finish 768 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,400 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: but please respond. 769 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,960 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Salamat po secretary. Ah 770 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,640 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: sir um yung bawas po doon sa budget is the capital 771 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,960 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: capital outlay, gaya po ng sinabi ng Secretary. 772 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pinondohan iyong building ninyo. Ganoon ba? 773 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,960 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Hindi po, 774 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,960 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: naibawas po iyong pondo sa building. 775 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kulang pa? 776 00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:55,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ulit, nabawas? 777 00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:56,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pakilinaw. 778 00:38:57,359 --> 00:38:59,300 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Yun po yung nabawas doon sa budget po. 779 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:04,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So there was funding for capital outlay for 2026. 780 00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:05,280 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Yes po. 781 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero wala na for 2027. 782 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:07,599 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Yes po. 783 00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:09,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Makukumpleto na ba iyong building? 784 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,280 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Phase 4 po. Hindi pa po siya makukumpleto. 785 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:11,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kulang? 786 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,160 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: Wala. 787 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kailangan ninyo ba, para matapos ang inyong building, 788 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: how much do you need? 789 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,160 DOST-FNRI Director Jacus S. Nacis: iyung request po for 2027 is 400 million po for the phase 4. 790 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 400 million for phase 4. Ayan. 791 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,119 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So baka narinig yan ng ating chair of the committee on appropriations. 792 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:29,839 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 793 00:39:29,839 --> 00:39:33,079 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa kabilang banda naman merong merong napansin ako 794 00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:36,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: rito Metals Industry Research and Development Center. 795 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:45,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It's a a 73.6% increase from 316 naging 549 million. 796 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit naman po may malaking increase? 797 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Capital outlay din ba to? 798 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,580 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Ako na lang sasagot. 799 00:39:49,839 --> 00:39:50,399 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. Sige po. 800 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,940 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: 'Yung uh grant-in-aid kasi ng Office of the Secretary, 801 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:57,380 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: tinanggalan kami and then nilipat sa ibang mga agencies 802 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,079 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: tulad ng MIRDC 803 00:39:59,079 --> 00:39:59,920 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: kaya lumaki sila. 804 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mayroon pong grant 805 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Office of the Secretary. Nilipat ninyo doon? 806 00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:05,899 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Oo. 807 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:09,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: What is the specific grant? Mukhang substansyal. 808 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,940 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Usually, some of it is related to their mandate. 809 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,160 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Usually ang ginagawa po natin sa grant-in-aid 810 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,800 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: if agencies would need support from the office of the secretary 811 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,700 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: to develop new technologies, 812 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,600 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: especially po iyung tinatawag naming industry 4.0 813 00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:27,940 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: using AI robotics automation, 814 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,220 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: ito po yung tinatawag naming Quatro program. 815 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,180 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Binibigyan namin sila ng fund because it's not part of their original GIA fund. 816 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:43,140 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So nag-decide ang DBM to transfer uh that certain amount of fund to them. 817 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So pag sinabi pong Metals Industry Research and Development Center, 818 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,659 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: specifically, you're talking about robotics ba iyong binanggit ninyo? 819 00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:53,440 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Well, it's about metals industry but 820 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that mining? Ganoon ba? 821 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:57,139 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Not really. 822 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,899 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: advanced manufacturing 823 00:40:59,359 --> 00:41:03,180 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: That would include metal and other advanced manufacturing technologies, 824 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,720 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: including robotics automation mechanization. 825 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:07,520 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Okay? 826 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:09,319 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sige po. 827 00:41:09,319 --> 00:41:11,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, kasama sa presentation ninyo, 828 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:19,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may banggit dito tungkol sa NAICRI, National AI Center for Research and Innovation. 829 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Although in your budget proposal 830 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: parang wala namang specific as far as I know 831 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: item for the center. 832 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 833 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,839 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: this is already being funded at the uh grant in aid level 834 00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:36,260 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: as this is a continuing R&D program 835 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,000 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: but the Advanced Science and Technology Institute 836 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,920 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: also has a proposal to further increase the compute power. 837 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,280 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So I'll ask the Director of ASTI, Dr. de Leon, to further explain. 838 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,119 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yeah. And in connection with that, 839 00:41:50,119 --> 00:41:57,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so uh sa press release sa inyong website regarding the National AI strategy for the Philippines, 840 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:03,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Secretary mentioned high-performance compute, 841 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: national high-performance compute centers, 842 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:17,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and that you have a target of increasing high-performance computing power by 26-fold, 843 00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:19,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: presumably, of government? 844 00:42:20,359 --> 00:42:22,559 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Yes. For for our own operation 845 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:23,320 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: of government 846 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:29,579 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: and application especially to support our MSME and industries to use AI. 847 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:30,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sige. Puwede 848 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: po bang paki-elaborate 849 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po itong high-performance computing? 850 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:37,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sorry. 851 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba? High-power... 852 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,240 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: High-performance computing. 853 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:44,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. High-power computing center. 854 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:46,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: What is this exactly? 855 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:46,920 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Okay. 856 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,599 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So I'll ask... 857 00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:53,019 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is this infrastructure, as in data centers? 858 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,119 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Essentially it's a compute center. 859 00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:56,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Compute center. 860 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:56,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Compute 861 00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:57,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cluster? 862 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI ba iyan? 863 00:42:58,240 --> 00:42:58,800 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Yeah. AI. 864 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,880 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: It can be both physical and on cloud. 865 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So you're talking about... 866 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,200 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Yes. 867 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in-country? 868 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:06,640 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: In-country po iyan. 869 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So that we can have our own. 870 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:08,720 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Yes. 871 00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:12,839 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, mga high-power GPUs for AI. 872 00:43:12,839 --> 00:43:13,119 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Yes. 873 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:15,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. Puwede po bang mabigyan tayo ng detalye 874 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: noong anong mga processor ito? 875 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gaano karami? 876 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: How big is the cluster? 877 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,539 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Where do you get your power? 878 00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:26,559 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iyan iyong kontrobersiya kaugnay sa Pax Silica. 879 00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:33,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And also, I would like to know ano ba ang level ng AI infrastructure na nasa Pilipinas 880 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at pag-aari ng gobyerno in this case? 881 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:48,579 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I am aware may mga private companies na nagtatayo sila ng sarili nilang AI on-prem data centers 882 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:50,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for AI. 883 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paano dito sa Pilipinas? Paano iyong Pilipinas? 884 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So pwede po bang mag-explain? 885 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:58,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yeah please. 886 00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:59,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Director Franz. 887 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At magkano iyong budget nito? 888 00:44:03,319 --> 00:44:06,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And is this reflected in the budget proposal? 889 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,720 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: Thank you, Secretary, Madam Chair, Your Honor. 890 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:19,000 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: Iyong NAICRI po is a continuation of the current service being provided by the Advanced Science 891 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:19,999 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: and Technology Institute. 892 00:44:20,839 --> 00:44:28,720 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: So, mga one decade ago, nagtayo na po ng high-performance supercomputer cluster po na mina-manage po ng ASTI 893 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:32,359 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: ASTI and then it became a shared service. 894 00:44:32,359 --> 00:44:42,740 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: So ibig sabihin po, binibigay natin iyong compute resources and storage for other government agencies, R&D institutes, and the academic community. 895 00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:50,960 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: Of course, with the advent of AI, it needed a different type of architecture, different type of AI hardware. 896 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,659 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: So ito na po iyong mga GPU-based computers po natin. 897 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,280 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: So through the years, through the different projects, 898 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,680 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: nabibigyan po tayo ng pondo to expand that center. 899 00:45:02,359 --> 00:45:12,200 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: With NAICRI, it's more of institutionalizing and sustaining the AI track being supported by DOST. 900 00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,960 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: So nandun po yung commitment to expand further 901 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,960 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: as you mentioned po yung nabasa po ninyo sa press release 902 00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:21,100 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: and panimula pa lang po siya. 903 00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:26,079 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: If we could imagine for example currently meron po kaming maliit na data center 904 00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:29,040 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: is just a container van at the back of our office. 905 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,080 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: Ganun lang po kaliit doon po nagsisimula. 906 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,120 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: Ngayon po we are starting to expand through commercial data centers. 907 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:42,659 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: rent out po tayo ng space and then we install our own um GPUs. 908 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,360 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: So ang intent po natin um to further enhance our own sovereignty. 909 00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:54,839 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: Yung pagkakaroon po natin ng capacity to deploy and um make our own AI based application 910 00:45:54,839 --> 00:45:56,520 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: using our own 911 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,020 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: system. Iyon po iyong sinusuportahan ng DOST sa ngayon. 912 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po ma-provide ng... 913 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:14,899 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkaroon ng idea, ang kongreso, ano yung level ng technology na meron ng DOST ngayon. 914 00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example, sabi nyo may isang container van kayo. 915 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,459 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sa ngayon, yan ang inyong high power compute. 916 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,079 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So ano yung mga processor nyo? 917 00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:24,439 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is this... 918 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Latest ba ito? 919 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba mga NVIDIA chips? 920 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: A100, H100, Blackwell, iyong mga ganoon. 921 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:33,439 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nasaan tayo? 922 00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:35,480 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: So tama pa yung nabanggitin nyo. 923 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,520 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: Meron po tayo noon. 924 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,480 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: With the latest iteration po na expansion po natin, 925 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,820 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: we were fortunate enough to procure yung mas bago, H200. 926 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,640 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: So currently, in-install po natin sila. 927 00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:51,359 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: And then with the establishment of NAICRI, 928 00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:53,640 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: it's not just about the expansion of the current, 929 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:54,800 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: but we also took... 930 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,079 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: plan to roll out sa regions. 931 00:46:57,079 --> 00:47:03,839 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: Because we realized, masyadong nakasentro yung compute power sa NCR o sa Mega Manila. 932 00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:06,940 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: So we want to expand that resource as well to the regions. 933 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So nabanggit nyo po, H200, ilan po yung cluster nyo, ilang processors po yun? 934 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:20,500 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: Opo, I don't have the exact figure, but I think there are five major compute servers. 935 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:25,200 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: Bukod po sa compute servers, may tandem po siya with data storage, 936 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,599 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: kasi mahalaga rin po siya. 937 00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:29,599 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: And also upgrading of network equipment. 938 00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:34,359 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: Kasi we expect large amount of data and traffic to be exchanged. 939 00:47:34,359 --> 00:47:36,820 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: So lahat po yun, sabay-sabay po natin na in-upgrade. 940 00:47:37,359 --> 00:47:38,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At magkano po ang budget? 941 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that in the current budget? 942 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:46,119 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And the proposal to expand by 26-fold by 2028? 943 00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:47,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So magkano po yung... 944 00:47:48,839 --> 00:47:49,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: How much will this cost? 945 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:55,000 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: Opo, sa ngayon po iyong initial seed funding na binigay po ng DOST 946 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,240 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: through its GIAs, 300 million. 947 00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,740 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: So we hope to further that. 948 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,640 DOST-ASTI Director Franz A. de Leon: So aside from the OSEC, probably in the near future, also through developmental partners po. 949 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 950 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So Chair, hindi na ako magpapatagal, pero masang concern po natin dito. 951 00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:23,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun nga, importante yung binabanggit na dapat magkaroon din ng sariling digital or AI infrastructure ang Pilipinas. 952 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:24,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 953 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So yung tinatawag na, whatever you call it, data sovereignty. 954 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:29,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 955 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:44,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Otherwise, ang nangyayari po, lumalaga na pang AI, palagi tayong uupa ng cloud and data services and AI services from, ultimately from abroad. 956 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:45,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 957 00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:47,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At papalaki na ng papalaki. 958 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, ang ginagastos natin dyan. 959 00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:55,559 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, Chair, pwedeng makahingi na lang makapagsubmit ng mas na detalyado. 960 00:48:55,559 --> 00:49:06,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung information about what we currently have and what are the plans to expand the nationally owned compute. 961 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 962 00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:12,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And also the plan to, sabi nyo, dapat ma-expand din sa regions. 963 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:13,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 964 00:49:14,359 --> 00:49:14,659 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 965 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:21,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, tapos, in other words, kasi minsan pagkausap namin ng DICT, parang pinag-uusapan din nila ito. 966 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:22,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano ba yan? 967 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:45,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And kayo ba ang lead agency with regard to, you know, developing indigenous digital infrastructure o yung AI infrastructure o is it DICT o may kanya-kanyang diskarte kayo? 968 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,160 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Mr. Chair, if I may respond. 969 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,040 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: We developed the National AI Strategy. 970 00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:55,440 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: And in that development, there are four major components. 971 00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:05,580 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: The first is the AI factory, the infrastructure, the human resources, the policies, and of course the financing. 972 00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:18,300 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Out of it, we will have to develop the AI refinery, developing the models, the analytics between government, national, local, academic, and industry partners. 973 00:50:18,599 --> 00:50:20,799 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Now, to really implement and accelerate. 974 00:50:20,799 --> 00:50:29,160 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: The application of AI, we need to have partnerships at the local, regional, and national level, and of course, international partnership. 975 00:50:29,799 --> 00:50:35,900 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: All of this are geared into really helping our own enterprises and the community. 976 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:45,559 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So, we also crafted the National AI Implementation Strategy, where different government organizations will take the lead. 977 00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:51,360 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: On DOST, we lead in the development of the infrastructure for research and development. 978 00:50:51,680 --> 00:51:02,220 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: And talent management, and development of language models that can be utilized together with DTI and DICT, and the industry by various enterprises. 979 00:51:02,839 --> 00:51:12,119 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Now, DICT is involved in the connectivity and infrastructure as well, but they are mainly dealing with the private sector to support this. 980 00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:14,340 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Magkaiba po talaga ang laro namin. 981 00:51:14,839 --> 00:51:21,040 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Now, to support the AI sovereignty, DOST is also developing. 982 00:51:21,319 --> 00:51:26,800 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: The data sovereignty through the Geospatial Analytics and Technology Solutions platform. 983 00:51:27,359 --> 00:51:33,920 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: It's a digital transformation of all data anchored on geographic information system, the science of where. 984 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:39,760 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: And this is where we differentiate DOST from the rest of other government agencies. 985 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:46,640 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: We are developing this data that will be utilized to fuel the artificial intelligence technology. 986 00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:50,400 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So, eventually, our goal is to develop a geospatial. 987 00:51:50,400 --> 00:52:08,880 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: GeoAI Hub, managed by DOST, so that we can provide our enterprises and the government Philippine-owned data that will be queried by large language models or language models that we develop. 988 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:17,680 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Currently, we have iTanong as a language model that can be utilized by anyone who would want to look at it. 989 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,559 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: We also have an equivalent of the App Store or Google. 990 00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:30,960 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: We also have a Google Play Store where language models using Filipino data sets are placed there so that one can look at it and see if you have similar operation. 991 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:36,720 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: You can use that model para i-short circuit na po natin yung lack of compute power and scale. 992 00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:41,799 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So, gamitin nyo na lang yun, pwede mo nang patakbuhin yung operation mo using that model. 993 00:52:41,799 --> 00:52:45,440 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So iyon po ang current state ng AI strategy ng DOST. 994 00:52:46,359 --> 00:52:50,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sir, pahingin na lang po, sana makapag-provide ng mga data. 995 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mga dokumento on the national AI strategy and the plan. 996 00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:06,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And yung ibang mga tanong ko, siguro, sino po ba ang magandang kausap si Director De Leon? 997 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:06,820 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Opo. 998 00:53:07,359 --> 00:53:08,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, thank you. Thank you, Chair. 999 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,220 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Thank you, Congressman Tinio. 1000 00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:15,008 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Congressman Nicky Briones. 1001 00:53:16,839 --> 00:53:19,000 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ah, thank you, Mr. Chair. 1002 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,960 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ah, gusto ko lang namang magpasalamat 1003 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:27,799 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: sa mga nagagawa na itutulong ng DOST sa ating mga farmers, 1004 00:53:27,799 --> 00:53:32,359 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: especially sa amin, sa egg industry. 1005 00:53:32,359 --> 00:53:41,119 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: through your program na DOST-BIST, or Business Innovation through Science and Technology, 1006 00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:48,400 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: CRADLE, uh, Collaborative Research and Development to Leverage Philippine Economy, 1007 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,480 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: malaki ang naitulong ng DOST. 1008 00:53:51,480 --> 00:54:01,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Without my intervention, ha, kaya yung coordination ng DOST at saka ng DA, napakaganda. 1009 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:07,920 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Kasi alam natin na yung egg eh maiksi lang ang shelf life. 1010 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:14,040 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So dahil doon sa inyong boiled egg brine solution, 1011 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,520 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: pwede tumagal yung boiled egg up to five years. 1012 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So yung handling sa, let's say, may calamity, 1013 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,480 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: or gusto nating tulungan yung nutrition ng ating mga bata, 1014 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,640 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: madali na iparating. 1015 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:39,280 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So ang isa pa, yung, ah, sa aming, ah, itong, ah, egg processing plant. 1016 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,040 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Una, yung liquefied egg processing plant. 1017 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:48,480 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang ating itlog, up to 10, 12 days, pwede nang masira. 1018 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,079 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Pero because of this liquefied 1019 00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:56,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: egg processing plant, through your initiative, 1020 00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:03,160 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ah, nagla-last ng up to more than a month, more than five months. 1021 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:15,079 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So mas mabilis yung pagde-deliver din sa mga hotel and industrial partner namin. 1022 00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:17,559 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Kaya malaki ang nagagawa. 1023 00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:21,440 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: At lastly, itong egg powder, 1024 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,280 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Egg. 1025 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,640 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Powder processing plant. 1026 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,240 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: na even up to five years, 1027 00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:31,440 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ah, tumatagal yung itlog. 1028 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:39,520 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So, napakalaki ng, uh, nagawa niyo sa Batangas Egg Producers Cooperative 1029 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,920 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: at doon sa aming bayan sa San Jose, 1030 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,280 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: which is the egg basket of the Philippines. 1031 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,079 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: We are producing 12 million eggs a day. 1032 00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:51,039 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So, thank you, ah, 1033 00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:51,839 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: DOST 1034 00:55:51,839 --> 00:55:52,599 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Secretary 1035 00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:53,760 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Renato Solidum. 1036 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:59,559 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Sana talagang madagdagan natin ang budget ng DOST. 1037 00:55:59,559 --> 00:56:00,599 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Thank you po. 1038 00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:01,075 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Thank you. 1039 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,349 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Thank you, Vice Chair Nicky Briones. 1040 00:56:04,535 --> 00:56:09,319 Rep. Amben S. Amante: First, I would like to acknowledge the presence of our Senior Deputy Speaker, 1041 00:56:09,319 --> 00:56:11,880 Rep. Amben S. Amante: the gentleman, Senior Deputy Speaker 1042 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,124 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Dan Fernandez. 1043 00:56:13,310 --> 00:56:14,255 Rep. Dan S. Fernandez: Baka ako ang makakadagdag ng budget? 1044 00:56:16,972 --> 00:56:19,870 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Before we go to our favorite motion, 1045 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,440 Rep. Amben S. Amante: any last word of support? 1046 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,173 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Senior Deputy Speaker. 1047 00:56:30,303 --> 00:56:34,000 Rep. Dan S. Fernandez: Humabol lang ako, but I'm not going to ask questions. 1048 00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:40,240 Rep. Dan S. Fernandez: Si Sec. Solidum, one of the performing secretaries. 1049 00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:41,960 Rep. Dan S. Fernandez: Of course, the entire department, no? 1050 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,880 Rep. Dan S. Fernandez: So, I'm only here to support your budget and if possible, increase your budget. 1051 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:47,498 Rep. Dan S. Fernandez: Yun lang po. 1052 00:56:51,110 --> 00:56:56,680 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Thank you, SDS. May hahabol lang na question. 1053 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,400 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Congressman Tinio, go ahead. 1054 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Chair, actually, may postscript lang ako doon sa issue ng 1055 00:57:05,799 --> 00:57:09,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, data sovereignty, digital sovereignty, AI sovereignty. 1056 00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:16,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At may, meron, binanggit nga si Secretary, meron ng national AI strategy. 1057 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? 1058 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At personally, I support this idea, no? 1059 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:27,139 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na, sige, lumalaganap ang AI. Kailangan meron—may control ang mga Pilipino, 'di ba. 1060 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,559 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi yung nakaasa tayo sa AI. 1061 00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:30,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In a way, yung data natin, 1062 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:37,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gagamitin nung iba to improve their models and then we, we end up just as paying customers. 1063 00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:39,319 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi tama yun. 1064 00:57:39,319 --> 00:57:44,119 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, Mr. Chair, I would like to point something out. 1065 00:57:44,119 --> 00:57:47,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Recently, ay kaugnay po ito sa Pax Silica. 1066 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:56,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The main proponent of Pax Silica is the U.S. Undersecretary of State, Jacob Helberg, no? 1067 00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:05,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, uh, just last June 24, he came out with a, uh, a, um, um, 1068 00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:10,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a speech or a publication called the Digital Sovereignty Trap. 1069 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At dito, explicitly, ang sinasabi niya rito, 1070 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:19,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, a growing number of governments persuaded that independence requires duplication, 1071 00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:26,859 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: are drafting national AI strategies to match, each resolved to rebuild inside its own borders, 1072 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a stack that already exists somewhere else. 1073 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:38,079 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It is a sub, it is a seductive vision, it is also backward and counterproductive, no? 1074 00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:41,079 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang main thesis niya dito, uy, kayong mga bansa, 1075 00:58:41,079 --> 00:58:47,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: huwag na kayong mag-ambisyong, ah, mag-develop ng sarili niyong AI technology, 1076 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you will always be backward. 1077 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:58,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sumakay kayo sa U.S. kasi we are developing the most advanced AI technology, no? 1078 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,039 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So misguided. 1079 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:09,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung, ah, mga plano niyo na magtayo ng sarili niyong, ah, AI technology. Just join us. 1080 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,039 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And this is what Pax Silica is about, no? 1081 00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:18,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ah, obviously, tutol po tayo; nire-reject natin. 1082 00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:26,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung, ayan na 'yun, the main proponent of Pax Silica is this, this person, Helberg. 1083 00:59:27,079 --> 00:59:29,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Siya nga yung nagpunta rito to inaugurate. 1084 00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:35,559 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh, the, the Pax Silica project in, uh, New Clark City, no? 1085 00:59:35,559 --> 00:59:41,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And napakalinaw po nung kanyang argumento dito na, okay, 1086 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,159 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: huwag na yung digital national, you know, yung no AI sovereignty. 1087 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mananatili kayong backward. 1088 00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:55,550 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tulungan niyo kami. Nasa amin ang pinaka-advanced na teknolohiya, no. 1089 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:56,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, um... 1090 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:04,579 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In that regard, ah, ano pong masasabi ng DOST diyan? 1091 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,740 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: AI is simply a technology. 1092 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,120 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: It can be powerful. 1093 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,720 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: You can develop large language models. 1094 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:22,379 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: But in the AI summit that I attended, one of the leading industrial companies, 1095 01:00:23,039 --> 01:00:32,659 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: I think one of the best statements that she made was you cannot compete with those already advanced. 1096 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:38,920 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: And so her advice is for countries to develop smaller language models 1097 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,619 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that would address the specific needs of their country or their organization. 1098 01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:48,960 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Second, it is the data that will be more powerful than the AI. 1099 01:00:49,319 --> 01:00:49,760 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: That is why, 1100 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,560 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: our focus is to develop a data sovereignty platform. 1101 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:54,680 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Thank you. 1102 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:55,839 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 1103 01:00:55,839 --> 01:01:00,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In that regard, uh, I commend the Secretary for having that stand. 1104 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:07,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Importante po, no, na sa kabila ng ayan na po napakalinaw na tulak ng U.S.— 1105 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi nila, tigil niyo na 'yan, sumama kayo sa amin— 1106 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:18,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, dapat po, tama lang na ipagpatuloy ang effort na i-develop ang sarili nating infrastructure at 1107 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,119 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kakayahan kahit dito sa larangan ng AI, 1108 01:01:22,119 --> 01:01:35,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lalo pa at ang kailangan—ang kailangan natin ay 'yung sariling data natin ang gamitin para tugunan ang mga pangangailangan ng Pilipino. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 'Yun lang po ang puntong gusto kong i-raise. Thank you. 1109 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,870 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Congressman Tinio. 1110 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,830 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Congresswoman Renee Co. 1111 01:01:40,839 --> 01:01:45,713 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sorry, Mr. Chair. This is just, um—or, uh— 1112 01:01:46,118 --> 01:01:51,359 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this is just a point of inquiry that we would like to address to the Committee on Appropriations. 1113 01:01:51,359 --> 01:01:51,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Uh, 1114 01:01:51,880 --> 01:02:01,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: given that there are other executive offices that will be going through plenary discussions separately, 1115 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: no, when their budgets will be deliberated upon. 1116 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:09,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Um, this representation submitted a request to, uh, to the Chair, 1117 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,559 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Representative Suansing, no, 1118 01:02:11,559 --> 01:02:17,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: if it's possible to have pre-plenary deliberations for other executive offices. 1119 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:18,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: No, 1120 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: uh, 1121 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:19,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this 1122 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would include the Anti-Money Laundering Council, 1123 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,279 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Bases Conversion and Development Authority, 1124 01:02:24,279 --> 01:02:25,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Climate Change Commission, 1125 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,559 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Komisyon sa Wikang Filipino, Metropolitan Manila Development Authority, 1126 01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:33,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: National Commission on Indigenous Peoples, National Intelligence Coordinating Agency, National Security Council, PDEA, PEZA, and SBMA, 1127 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:38,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to address various concerns that are opened up to them 1128 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that, because of their layered—um, 1129 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: uh, because of the—the layered, uh, natures of them, 1130 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that it might not be enough to address them 1131 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: merely at plenary. 1132 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:50,599 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So that's just a request. 1133 01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:52,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And I'd like to put it on the record, 1134 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:53,770 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Chair, Madam Chair. 1135 01:03:04,874 --> 01:03:08,079 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: We'll discuss it po. 1136 01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:11,839 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: We've also been discussing it earlier with Cong. Renee 1137 01:03:11,839 --> 01:03:14,680 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: because we've been together in several of the hearings. 1138 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:19,640 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So we can see how we can move forward with the request. 1139 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,119 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So we'll coordinate na lang po 1140 01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:23,520 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: and we'll discuss how we can proceed 1141 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,160 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: with those OEOs mentioned. 1142 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:26,845 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you po. 1143 01:03:28,195 --> 01:03:29,559 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Okay, uh, thank you. 1144 01:03:29,559 --> 01:03:32,026 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Any last words, Chairwoman? 1145 01:03:32,026 --> 01:03:33,880 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Chairman, last words? 1146 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,359 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Kanina, message of support. Last words. 1147 01:03:36,359 --> 01:03:37,763 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Message of support. Opo. 1148 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:39,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, thank you. 1149 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,880 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Amben. Thank you, Cong. Nicky. 1150 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,319 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: I just wanted to say thank you to our two vice chairpersons 1151 01:03:45,319 --> 01:03:51,799 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: who facilitated today's hearing for the DOST budget briefing. 1152 01:03:51,799 --> 01:03:57,000 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Amben Amante. Thank you, Cong. Nicky Briones 1153 01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:05,039 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: for very well, for managing the deliberations very, very well. 1154 01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:10,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Kampante po ako na, ah, kasi alam ko po na the DOST family 1155 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:14,200 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: is in great hands with Vice Chair Amben and Vice Chair Nikki. 1156 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So palakpakan naman po natin sila. 1157 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:16,964 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you po. 1158 01:04:18,753 --> 01:04:24,720 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Ayun po. So they will be your partners until the plenary deliberations. 1159 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,000 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So maybe just a few questions, Kong Amben. 1160 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:29,480 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Very quick. 1161 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,480 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Kong Tonshi, for posing a lot of the, 1162 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:37,720 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: I was going to ask on the agency-wise allocations, 1163 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:43,179 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: but you explained to Kong Tonshi that the big decreases 1164 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,800 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: in Pag-ASA and PNRI, 1165 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,480 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: it was explained that Pag-ASA is okay 1166 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,140 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: because it's already done. 1167 01:04:53,279 --> 01:04:54,839 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Is that, did I catch it correctly? 1168 01:04:54,839 --> 01:04:57,680 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: The ₱364 million differential is because 1169 01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,599 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: uh, on the differential is because there's 1170 01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:03,200 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: a project that was already done already so no need 1171 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,639 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: to fund it for 2027. 1172 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,639 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: For FNRI, it's the building. 1173 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,960 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: For the PNRI, is it the same case po? 1174 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,200 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: It's a project, it's a 345 million decrease. 1175 01:05:17,079 --> 01:05:18,140 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Is it a similar? 1176 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:19,039 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Yes. 1177 01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:23,579 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Similar situation po with Pag-ASA or with FNRI? 1178 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,700 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: It's similar with FNRI. 1179 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:35,480 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: the project has already done with all its phases kaya nag-stop na po yung funding for this particular capital outlay. 1180 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:42,200 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Okay. Sige po. So yun na naman po yung malaki. Those are the most glaring reductions. 1181 01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:52,160 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: You also explained to Kongtonchi earlier that the reason for the increases in the different agency budgets is because of the transfer of the grants. 1182 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:58,880 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, Sige po, that's where I want to ask a question on, a clarificatory question on. 1183 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:08,559 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Because earlier it was discussed po that there was a request whether it's possible to re-centralize the grants in the Office of the Secretary. 1184 01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:13,839 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So I just wanted to maybe ask, we also have our DBM family here with us. 1185 01:06:13,839 --> 01:06:22,220 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, Sek, maybe just to enlighten us as to why the grants were distributed. 1186 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:28,040 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Across the different agencies. Is that...was that a decision on the part of the OSD or was that the DBM decision? 1187 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,640 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Sorry. Sorry. Sorry, friends, to put you on the spot. 1188 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:38,119 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: May we request of someone from the DBM family to please enlighten us? 1189 01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:46,000 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Kasi this is, this is a big point of contention. This is 1.25 billion being talked about. 1190 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,059 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, we just want to understand which way is the right way forward. 1191 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,200 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Do we centralize the grants in the Office of the Secretary 1192 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,039 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: the grants in the Office of the Secretary or do we retain the way that 1193 01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:01,680 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: it's here in the NEP which is distributed across agencies? So if we 1194 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:18,200 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: could request someone from the DBM. Director Vivian, if you could 1195 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:23,320 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: introduce yourself Director Vivian to the DOST family and to our colleagues. 1196 01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:40,419 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: Good evening, Madam Chair, Your Honor, Sec. Solidum, and all the DOST family. 1197 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:56,000 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: 2027, a policy for DBM which was approved to reallocate the funding 1198 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,440 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: requirements of ongoing R&D 1199 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:08,559 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: projects of attached agencies under the DOST that were previously funded under the GIA 1200 01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:15,839 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: of ASEC Councils directly to the agency-specific budgets of the DOST. 1201 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:26,540 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: So as such, the GIA will primarily fund those R&D projects proposed by external stakeholders 1202 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:32,560 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: such as the HEIs and other NGAs and private institutions. 1203 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:41,799 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: So this process, the reallocation of funding to the attached agencies of the DOST, will 1204 01:08:41,799 --> 01:08:49,239 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: also facilitate the immediate utilization and implementation of R&D programs by the 1205 01:08:49,239 --> 01:08:56,140 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: agencies since the funds will be available to them upon the approval of the GIA. 1206 01:08:56,679 --> 01:08:57,080 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: Instead, 1207 01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:05,040 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: of the current scheme, there will be interagency transfer funds from the GIA to the implementing 1208 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:05,860 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: agencies. 1209 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:17,520 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: So this is also to have an efficient process that is streamlined and the trust receipts 1210 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:18,359 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: will also disappear. 1211 01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:19,399 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: That is what will happen. 1212 01:09:19,679 --> 01:09:22,960 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: So that is the basis of the plan. 1213 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,819 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Director Vivian, is there a new guideline? 1214 01:09:27,159 --> 01:09:34,359 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Governing this that was not there during the 2026 GIA or I guess I just want to understand 1215 01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:39,979 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: the difference between the implementation last year versus this year. 1216 01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:47,560 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: What's different between the 2026 GIA and the 2027 NEP that necessitates this new scheme 1217 01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:49,460 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: in the grants? 1218 01:09:49,480 --> 01:09:51,199 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: Yes, Madam Chair. 1219 01:09:52,440 --> 01:09:54,000 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: Last year, wala pa po ito. 1220 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:59,229 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: It's a new policy po by DBM during budget preparation. 1221 01:09:59,239 --> 01:10:00,870 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: Opo. 1222 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,080 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So it's an internal DBM policy. 1223 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: It's a new DBM policy po pala, Sec. 1224 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,440 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So perhaps this is the right forum to take care of it 1225 01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:13,320 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: just so we can work on it accordingly on the side of the House. 1226 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:18,400 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So siguro, now that you've heard Director Vivian's rationale on it— 1227 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,040 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: DBM's rationale on it, which 1228 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:25,520 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: is, it essentially streamlines it because you're putting the grants straight to the 1229 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,340 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: agency. 1230 01:10:26,440 --> 01:10:28,040 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So now is the time also, sir. 1231 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:38,059 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: SEC to appeal slash reason out as to why, what would the implications be on the implementation? 1232 01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:45,199 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: I'm sure there's a, here I understand streamlining, nakadiretso na, wala na interagency transfer, 1233 01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:50,780 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: but Sigur Sec, from the standpoint of DOST, how would that affect your implementation? 1234 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:08,640 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: I totally understand the intention. Unfortunately, the details of many of the grants were not 1235 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:16,040 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: very clear when all the funds were transferred. So instead of just transferring the amount 1236 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:22,679 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: of money for specific agencies that they will have to implement, the funding that are supposed 1237 01:11:22,679 --> 01:11:26,600 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: to be under the same field, but not to be implemented by the same agency, that's not 1238 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:33,840 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: true. That agency were also included. So kaya sumobra talaga yung ibang agency. So the 1239 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:40,400 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: intention was good, but may mga details na siguro hindi, although we appealed to them, 1240 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:46,140 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: like PAGASA and PHIVOLCS. 1241 01:11:47,159 --> 01:11:53,560 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Bacolkol, paano nila gagastusin yun? Hindi naman sila pwedeng mag-release sa ibang agency. 1242 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,400 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So I'm just telling our observant. 1243 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,099 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: But I already wrote them about it. 1244 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:09,400 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Second question. What's your BOR for the grants? 1245 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:14,600 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Bababa ba yung utilization? Kasi yun siguro yung isa ko nakikita na pwede nating gamitin. 1246 01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:15,719 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: 98%. 1247 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:18,820 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Sorry? 1248 01:12:19,239 --> 01:12:19,560 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: 98%. 1249 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:19,800 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: 98%. 1250 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:30,919 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: With the previous scheme, wherein all the grants are centralized to OSEC. Director Vib, 1251 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:32,320 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: is there... 1252 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:32,860 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Is it possible? 1253 01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:40,520 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Is it like a written DBM policy in the budget preparation? Is there like a new internal 1254 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:41,200 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: memo? 1255 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,440 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: We have an internal memo po regarding it. 1256 01:12:44,440 --> 01:12:50,360 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Kasi yun actually din yung nakikita ko lang na downside. Again, I'm trying to see both 1257 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:57,320 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: sides. Ang nakikita ko lang na downside dito, which is diniretso nyo na, hindi ka na pwede 1258 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:57,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: mag... 1259 01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,320 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Parang hindi ka naman pwede mag-negative sa ano dito na ibabalik mo sa OSEC, diba? 1260 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,639 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Is it just like an outside agreement? 1261 01:13:04,639 --> 01:13:05,639 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: I don't see it. 1262 01:13:05,639 --> 01:13:14,960 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: I don't see any kind of, like, sort of, you know, you have a P200 million in grants and 1263 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,000 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: you put it in your NEP, and it has just P200 million in it. 1264 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:26,159 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, this might result in a lower BOR if we take a look at it next year. Because, you 1265 01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:34,279 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: you kind of pre-determine how much would be needed by each of the attached agencies. 1266 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:42,320 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Sorry, just to understand, I mean, I've been availing of grants also during my master's years, 1267 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,320 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: but it's really dynamic. 1268 01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:53,080 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: When you do your budget preparation, you don't really know how many grantees you're going to have per attached agency. 1269 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:58,019 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So you do it after the GAA is approved. 1270 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,440 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Essentially, it's proposal-driven. 1271 01:14:02,440 --> 01:14:10,120 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: For example, there are emergencies that might need to be responded to by DOST, not by DOST agencies, 1272 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,960 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: but I need experts, for example, oil spill. 1273 01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:17,520 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: I need to ask experts from different universities to focus on that. 1274 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,200 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So we get it from the GIA. 1275 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,480 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: We have a... 1276 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:25,960 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: a program for that. 1277 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,880 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: But that program was transferred to PAGASA. 1278 01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:31,300 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So PAGASA cannot distribute the money. 1279 01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:34,300 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: It was supposed to be distributed by the OSEC. 1280 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,580 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: So we will lose support in the emergency response. 1281 01:14:38,679 --> 01:14:41,920 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: It's just an example, but just to make it clear. 1282 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,120 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Yes, I understand, Sec. 1283 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:43,780 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Director Vivian? 1284 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,960 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: Yes, if I may, Madam Chair. 1285 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:53,040 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: The basis of the GIA's 2027 level was the list of... 1286 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,880 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: the ongoing R&D projects submitted by DOST. 1287 01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:06,100 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, DOST, I can't understand why— 1288 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,800 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: on these things 1289 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:17,620 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: if the basis would be your ongoing r d it doesn't necessarily mean that um come 2027 1290 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,320 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: those are still the same r d projects that would need to be funded by the grants 1291 01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:30,480 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: i think the the danger there is you don't know what to base it on for you to get an accurate 1292 01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:39,280 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: assessment of how much you would actually need in 2027. we may we i in this in this regard 1293 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:45,320 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: May we ask the DOST to explain first? 1294 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,979 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: they're at 98 utilization 1295 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:58,980 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: unless unless dbm has um uh has um opposition to that 1296 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:07,880 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: the reason why we can maximize the use of money is that since it's a proposal driven so for example 1297 01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:13,400 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: if the subject is disaster reduction it's not simply if you evoke the pagasa that will implement 1298 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:23,860 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: it we can fund other agencies that have a proposal so it means 1299 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:34,120 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: that it will actually take away the flexibility of providing good proposals in the disaster field 1300 01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,060 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: because it's not simply if you have some pagasa that would implement that 1301 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:41,720 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: uh 1302 01:16:42,639 --> 01:16:48,360 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: if we put it in the net that it's already lodged in the in the budget of the different agencies 1303 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,239 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: you can't do a negative zero let's say for example 1304 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,239 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: PHIVOLCS has a surplus of ₱100 million; 1305 01:16:56,480 --> 01:16:58,080 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: PAGASA needs ₱100 million. 1306 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,340 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: We can't transfer it anymore. 1307 01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:07,440 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Pero kunwari lang, nilagay natin sa OSEC, tapos na-download na ang SARO, 1308 01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:09,600 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: and then all of a sudden, towards the end of the year, 1309 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,679 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: hindi ko magagamit. Sasabihin ni PAGASA, 1310 01:17:13,679 --> 01:17:15,000 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: puwede mo pa i-negative SARO 1311 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,280 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: para malipat mo sa ibang attached agency, 1312 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:23,820 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: 'di ba? So, I mean, given the nature of the expenditure, 1313 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,440 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: the flexibility is needed in this case. 1314 01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:28,880 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: the nature of the expenditure the flexibility is needed in this case 1315 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:36,700 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: there's something with this 1.2 billion figure uh that we need to assess so um if you have concerns 1316 01:17:36,719 --> 01:17:43,800 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: director vivian on the side on the part of the dbm we can put a special provision to safeguard it to 1317 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:51,560 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: add safeguards um just so you you know if you want additional safeguards to govern the way that 1318 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,639 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: it's it's downloaded into the different attached 1319 01:17:54,639 --> 01:17:59,040 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: agencies but in a man but i think the flexibility has to be there so with 1320 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:04,920 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: your permission we may re-centralize uh this to 1321 01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:09,780 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: to osec in the hgab if if you're amenable to that 1322 01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,140 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: yeah we respectfully differ 1323 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:15,220 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: okay 1324 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:16,820 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: so 1325 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:21,840 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: respect 1326 01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:23,519 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: madam chair yes 1327 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,320 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: we defer to the wisdom of congress 1328 01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:28,640 DBM Budget and Management Bureau-F Director Vivien V. Labastilla: yes yes 1329 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,320 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: that's it madam chair the wisdom of congress 1330 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:32,920 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: and of course madam chair 1331 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:33,619 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: i think 1332 01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:37,199 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: yung ginawa ng dbm is just an internal 1333 01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:37,899 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: agreement 1334 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,199 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: so congress can do something 1335 01:18:41,199 --> 01:18:41,920 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: about it 1336 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,400 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: na pwede natin titignan 1337 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:45,760 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: or put it in the ga'a 1338 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,719 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: bagong maga'a na safe to say 1339 01:18:48,719 --> 01:18:50,000 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: have it safeguards lang 1340 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,480 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: can the flexibility 1341 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,700 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: is so important considering 1342 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,300 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: so many disasters and others 1343 01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:58,920 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: that's it 1344 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,120 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: thank you thank you thank you um 1345 01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:02,340 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: jj so 1346 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,960 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um again uh 1347 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,880 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: thank you director vivian thank you for that it 1348 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,880 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: means a lot um that you defer 1349 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,000 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: uh to us uh i 1350 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,740 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: would just have um 1351 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,780 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: if i may just request 1352 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,080 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: uh for for you and 1353 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:18,680 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: nikki to maybe do like 1354 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,000 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: post post this hearing 1355 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,960 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: uh process briefing rather um 1356 01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,000 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: to have additional consultations 1357 01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:26,780 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um between 1358 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,860 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: uh dbm 1359 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:30,080 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: and dost 1360 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: for just for us to sort this out 1361 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: siguro um director vivian if we can 1362 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,920 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: request the dbm to already come 1363 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:38,880 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: up with special provisions if you 1364 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,880 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: think there are necessary special 1365 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,800 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: provisions to govern this 1366 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,240 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: particular um grant 1367 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,280 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um if you can draft that already 1368 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,400 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um sec if there are 1369 01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:50,260 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um specific 1370 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,800 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: we're easy on the part of the 1371 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,880 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: dost as long as it's centralized um 1372 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,040 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: you're you're happy with that um 1373 01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,880 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: but siguro just to just 1374 01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,080 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: to strike a compromise um 1375 01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,960 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: between the intention 1376 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,000 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: of dbm and also 1377 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,960 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: of course the need of dost 1378 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,120 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: uh for flexibility if 1379 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,280 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um if i may request um 1380 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,239 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: vice chair umben and vice chair 1381 01:20:13,239 --> 01:20:14,960 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: nikki to facilitate those 1382 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:16,719 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: discussions between dbm and 1383 01:20:16,719 --> 01:20:18,560 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: dost so you know i 1384 01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: i saw the number and i 1385 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,840 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: knew there was there was something 1386 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,000 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: behind that number so um i 1387 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,840 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: hope um that 1388 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,020 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: helps um 1389 01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:30,659 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um 1390 01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,300 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: i i 1391 01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:34,620 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: sorry 1392 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:36,600 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: i 1393 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,620 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: sorry 1394 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,100 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: this is for you 1395 01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:43,140 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: questions 1396 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:45,000 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um the next 1397 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,059 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: question boys with regard to the virology 1398 01:20:47,239 --> 01:20:48,519 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: institute as uh 1399 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,240 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: every minute 1400 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:55,220 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um 1401 01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:56,679 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: for for the ost 1402 01:20:56,679 --> 01:20:57,280 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um 1403 01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,199 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: proposal um sec is 1404 01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:01,600 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: do we have an indicative number as to 1405 01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,120 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: how much would be needed for the 1406 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,439 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: virology institute 1407 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,120 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: To finish Phases 1 and 2 1408 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:08,479 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: buildings so that we can 1409 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,000 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: now operate there in New Clark City, 1410 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,140 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: we need 1411 01:21:12,719 --> 01:21:16,070 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: ₱800 million. 1412 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:16,855 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: For next year. 1413 01:21:16,855 --> 01:21:17,880 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: And that, Sec., was in your Tier 1 1414 01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,040 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: proposal? Was it in 1415 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:22,960 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: your Tier 1 proposal to DBM? 1416 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,700 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: It's an ongoing construction, 1417 01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:27,420 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: so Tier 1 siya. 1418 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:28,178 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Um, Director Viv— 1419 01:21:28,178 --> 01:21:29,140 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Usually po, 1420 01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:33,239 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: um, DPWH ang nag-a-allot doon. 1421 01:21:33,239 --> 01:21:35,340 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: It's lodged under DPWH. 1422 01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:35,679 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Kaya lang, since 1423 01:21:35,679 --> 01:21:36,659 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: 2026, 1424 01:21:36,659 --> 01:21:47,199 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: this year, tama? Wala nang [unclear] o walang na-allot. 1425 01:21:47,199 --> 01:21:47,400 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, 1426 01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:48,440 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: may we request 1427 01:21:48,440 --> 01:21:48,679 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: po, 1428 01:21:48,679 --> 01:21:52,000 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Sec., would it emanate from 1429 01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:52,620 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um, 1430 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,360 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: from DOST, or 1431 01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,620 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: would that request emanate from DPWH? 1432 01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:57,997 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Just wanted to— 1433 01:21:57,997 --> 01:21:58,975 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Sa amin na lang. Sa amin. 1434 01:21:58,975 --> 01:22:00,100 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Sa inyo na lang po. Okay. 1435 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,400 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So that's the second—that's the first 1436 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,320 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: request, actually. The second—sorry, the 1437 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,360 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: first request was the grants. The second 1438 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,600 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: request was with regard to the Virology 1439 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,360 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Institute. The third request 1440 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,480 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: that you mentioned earlier, um, 1441 01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:14,400 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Sec., it was with regard to 1442 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:15,445 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: the master's— 1443 01:22:15,445 --> 01:22:16,036 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Master's. 1444 01:22:16,036 --> 01:22:18,360 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: and PhD grants, leveling it with 1445 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,305 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: CHED. Is there an indicative amount? 1446 01:22:20,305 --> 01:22:21,537 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: ₱309 million. 1447 01:22:21,638 --> 01:22:22,870 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: ₱309 million. 1448 01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:24,845 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Kapresyo noong Pisay last year, iyong 1449 01:22:24,845 --> 01:22:26,320 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: stipend—iyong increase in 1450 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,719 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: stipend ng Pisay. 1451 01:22:27,719 --> 01:22:30,260 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: How many master's and PhD 1452 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:31,080 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um, 1453 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:33,140 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: [unclear] takers? 1454 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:34,779 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Around 5,000. 1455 01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:38,080 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: 5,000. And what would be the increase 1456 01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:39,357 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: for a master's grant? 1457 01:22:39,357 --> 01:22:41,239 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: From ₱30,000 to 1458 01:22:41,719 --> 01:22:44,977 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: ₱38,000. ₱38,000 is CHED; ₱30,000... 1459 01:22:44,977 --> 01:22:48,301 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: That's per semester? Per year? 1460 01:22:48,301 --> 01:22:49,430 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Per month. 1461 01:22:49,430 --> 01:22:52,199 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Stipend per month. 1462 01:22:52,199 --> 01:22:53,633 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: From ₱30,000 to ₱38,000 per month? 1463 01:22:53,633 --> 01:22:58,696 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: And from ₱38,000 to ₱50,000 for PhD. 1464 01:22:58,696 --> 01:22:59,520 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Okay, so that's an 1465 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,580 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: ₱8,000 and a ₱12,000 increase 1466 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,180 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: for the two. 1467 01:23:04,199 --> 01:23:05,520 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So if we may request, 1468 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:05,880 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um, 1469 01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:09,600 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: the Executive Director 1470 01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,520 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: of SEI knows this [unclear]. 1471 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,520 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: If we can request for 1472 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,639 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: the same—um, the number 1473 01:23:15,639 --> 01:23:17,879 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: of—just a table 1474 01:23:18,239 --> 01:23:19,920 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: showing us the number of 1475 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:20,740 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: grants, 1476 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,800 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: the amount for each, 1477 01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,320 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: and so— 1478 01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,719 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: the amount that you projected, 1479 01:23:27,719 --> 01:23:29,679 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: ₱309 million, Sec., that's 1480 01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,824 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: your 2027 projection already? 1481 01:23:32,824 --> 01:23:33,400 DOST Secretary Renato U. Solidum Jr.: Yes. 1482 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,580 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Okay. Well, predictable naman kasi 1483 01:23:36,199 --> 01:23:37,679 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: two and four or five 1484 01:23:37,679 --> 01:23:39,600 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: years iyong PhD. Opo. 1485 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: okay so those are the three i 1486 01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,719 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: understand that although 1487 01:23:43,719 --> 01:23:44,800 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: in the earlier 1488 01:23:45,639 --> 01:23:47,780 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: questions they asked about other 1489 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:49,639 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: constructions that 1490 01:23:49,639 --> 01:23:51,560 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: were not continued but start 1491 01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,520 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: already started saying 1492 01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: we have a list that we will submit okay 1493 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,979 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: so so sec um 1494 01:23:58,239 --> 01:23:59,199 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: you you're you 1495 01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:01,420 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: either you know this very well 1496 01:24:01,639 --> 01:24:03,719 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: we have limited fiscal space 1497 01:24:03,719 --> 01:24:06,360 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: uh we would really need to prioritize 1498 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:07,560 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: um as 1499 01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,840 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: much as you know we would we 1500 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,639 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: all here are in support of 1501 01:24:11,639 --> 01:24:12,620 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: increasing the budget of 1502 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,040 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: dost we would also need to prioritize 1503 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:17,860 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: so um 1504 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,679 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: my request is when you 1505 01:24:19,679 --> 01:24:21,639 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: submit to us to the committee of 1506 01:24:21,639 --> 01:24:24,199 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: within the Committee on Appropriations, wherein we deliberate 1507 01:24:24,199 --> 01:24:25,500 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: that would contain 1508 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,419 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: all of the wish list 1509 01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:29,679 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: would would contain your wish 1510 01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:29,819 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: list 1511 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:34,480 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Then siguro, 1512 01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,159 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: kung kaya niyo rin po ipaliwanag sa amin 1513 01:24:39,159 --> 01:24:42,260 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: kung kailangan mabuo ito o puwedeng partial, 1514 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:47,719 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: para we know how best to help you out. 1515 01:24:47,719 --> 01:24:49,080 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: The worst that could happen is 1516 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,199 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: we give DOST additional funding, 1517 01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:52,719 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: but it's not really the project 1518 01:24:52,719 --> 01:24:55,939 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: or the program that you really would like to prioritize. 1519 01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:57,840 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, as you know, Sec., 1520 01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,400 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: we also did this last year. 1521 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,400 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: One of our biggest reforms is we've 1522 01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,159 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: established the Budget Amendments Review 1523 01:25:04,159 --> 01:25:07,420 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Subcommittee within the Committee on Appropriations, 1524 01:25:07,719 --> 01:25:09,440 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: wherein we deliberate all 1525 01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:11,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: the institutional amendment requests 1526 01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,239 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: emanating from the agency. 1527 01:25:13,239 --> 01:25:16,520 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, my request lang siguro, Sec., 1528 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,539 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: for us to be able to process all of the requests— 1529 01:25:19,679 --> 01:25:22,920 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: institutional amendment requests—in time, 1530 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:24,920 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: is if you could give it to us po ASAP, 1531 01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,079 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: if possible, this week po, 1532 01:25:27,679 --> 01:25:35,560 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: para, um, nandito po—there's another [unclear] member, two [unclear] members here—um, so para po may oras kami 1533 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,679 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: na ma-deliberate po 'yung amendments. 1534 01:25:37,679 --> 01:25:38,679 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: But again, 1535 01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,960 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: rest assured, we all here are in support of DOST. 1536 01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:47,320 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: You've been doing so much good work 1537 01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:53,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: for our country and our respective localities and districts so we're very very grateful for all the 1538 01:25:53,760 --> 01:26:01,120 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: great work that the ost is doing and we would like to reciprocate that and thank that by also helping 1539 01:26:01,719 --> 01:26:07,360 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: you and enable you to have the resources you need to be able to perform your mandate better so 1540 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:14,669 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: well you have partners here who would help advocate for the ost so that's it 1541 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:20,220 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: po, kung we support na 'yon. 1542 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,917 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Ayan po. SDS Dan po would like to add. 1543 01:26:26,917 --> 01:26:37,639 Rep. Dan S. Fernandez: No, this is just to add support to DOST. Iyong na-mention kanina na we should give really flexibility to 1544 01:26:37,639 --> 01:26:48,840 Rep. Dan S. Fernandez: DOST kasi wala naman kayong record of misuse of funds. Even iyong mga safeguard, 1545 01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:57,040 Rep. Dan S. Fernandez: hindi iyon importante. Iyong flexibility, because performing department ito, and nakita naman ninyo in terms of disaster, 1546 01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:06,040 Rep. Dan S. Fernandez: very reliable. So give the flexibility. Iyong safeguard parang hindi nga kailangan ito ng DOST kasi performing agency ito. 1547 01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:06,438 Rep. Dan S. Fernandez: Iyon lang. 1548 01:27:06,758 --> 01:27:17,639 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Totoo naman po iyon. Actually po, what struck me in your presentation, in your PowerPoint presentation, was 1549 01:27:17,639 --> 01:27:23,639 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: 98% of the slides were all pertaining to accomplishments, iyong programs, projects. 1550 01:27:23,639 --> 01:27:27,360 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: The three slides lang iyong tungkol sa numbers and sa budget. 1551 01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:33,159 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So it really goes to show na performing talaga iyong agency. 1552 01:27:33,159 --> 01:27:42,760 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: And again, siguro para na po akong sirang plaka, I'm a product of DOST, Philippine Science High School System. 1553 01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:55,800 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So I owe it to PISAY and to DOST na all my love for—love for numbers, and the analytical—the analytical skills po were all because of that. 1554 01:27:55,800 --> 01:28:07,560 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So when I hear about the scholars and the grants and the—and the stipends, parang ako, ah, okay, at one point in my life talagang nagbenepisyo ako doon sa stipends namin sa PISAY. 1555 01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:12,159 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: which at the time was ₱500 per month. 1556 01:28:12,159 --> 01:28:15,320 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Pero ngayon, magkano na po? Four or five na, di ba? 1557 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,840 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: ₱2,000 na po iyong minimum. At that time, ₱500 per month po kami noon. 1558 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,600 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Pero laking bagay po noon talaga sa amin. 1559 01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:32,719 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So again, I would like to commend DOST and please know you have partners who will advocate for your budget. 1560 01:28:32,719 --> 01:28:34,171 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you. Thank you very much po. 1561 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,880 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Uh, Madam Chairperson, Mr. Chair, 1562 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:39,719 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: I move that 1563 01:28:39,719 --> 01:28:45,679 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: we terminate the budget briefing of the Department of Science and Technology and its attached agencies. 1564 01:28:45,679 --> 01:28:46,135 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: I so move. 1565 01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:48,025 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Any second? 1566 01:28:49,719 --> 01:28:51,920 Rep. Amben S. Amante: It has been moved and seconded. 1567 01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:52,970 Rep. Amben S. Amante: The motion is carried. 1568 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:01,829 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Ah, wait lang. 1569 01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,719 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: One more motion pa po. 1570 01:29:04,719 --> 01:29:08,750 Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Sorry, hindi tayo makakauwi nang wala 'tong other motion. 1571 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:16,840 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Thank you, Your Honors, and to our—and to our colleagues from the Department of Science and Technology for your valuable participation 1572 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,360 Rep. Amben S. Amante: in today's proceedings. 1573 01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:23,409 Rep. Amben S. Amante: We, we likewise thank to the members of the Committee for their active participation. 1574 01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:42,520 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ah, Mr. Chair, uh, I move that we suspend the Committee proceedings and resume tomorrow, August 25, 2026, 9 a.m. 1575 01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:43,021 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: I so move. 1576 01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:48,320 Rep. Amben S. Amante: It has been moved and duly seconded. 1577 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:55,947 Rep. Amben S. Amante: The Committee proceedings are hereby suspended and will resume tomorrow, August 25, 2026, at 9 o'clock in the morning.