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Representative Jose Manuel \"Chel\" I. Diokno confirmed that Cabrera was the prosecution's last witness for Article Two. The remaining business shifted to party manifestations and preparations for the next procedural stage." }, { "citations": [ { "segment_id": "S01325", "start_seconds": 13411.05, "clock": "03:43:31", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01326", "start_seconds": 13425.28, "clock": "03:43:45", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S00541", "start_seconds": 3988.13, "clock": "01:06:28", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00542", "start_seconds": 3997.36, "clock": "01:06:37", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S00543", "start_seconds": 4000.9, "clock": "01:06:40", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00544", "start_seconds": 4008.28, "clock": "01:06:48", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. 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To avoid duplicates, the team compared accounts, used multiple reviewers and traced fresh inflows behind annual ending balances." }, { "citations": [ { "segment_id": "S00051", "start_seconds": 1144.81, "clock": "00:19:04", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00087", "start_seconds": 1356.93, "clock": "00:22:36", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00124", "start_seconds": 1584.3, "clock": "00:26:24", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00267", "start_seconds": 2323.23, "clock": "00:38:43", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00339", "start_seconds": 2717.02, "clock": "00:45:17", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00396", "start_seconds": 3068.51, "clock": "00:51:08", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00407", "start_seconds": 3123.73, "clock": "00:52:03", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. 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She also challenged incomplete checks of ownership and transactions, absent interviews, liabilities and Cabrera's personal knowledge of the Vice President's awareness of her spouse's accounts and insurance. Cabrera acknowledged that he had interviewed neither spouse nor their accountants or auditor. He also confirmed that the report had no PwC review or endorsement. Ferrer separately asked about BIR fraud findings, tax cases and judgments." }, { "citations": [ { "segment_id": "S01678", "start_seconds": 17105.75, "clock": "04:45:05", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01680", "start_seconds": 17115.25, "clock": "04:45:15", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01682", "start_seconds": 17122.93, "clock": "04:45:22", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01683", "start_seconds": 17134.63, "clock": "04:45:34", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. 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Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01754", "start_seconds": 17751.76, "clock": "04:55:51", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01758", "start_seconds": 17770.52, "clock": "04:56:10", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01766_T2", "start_seconds": 17803.84, "clock": "04:56:43", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01767_R2", "start_seconds": 17821.65, "clock": "04:57:01", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01767_R4", "start_seconds": 17828.22, "clock": "04:57:08", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01767_R6", "start_seconds": 17831.34, "clock": "04:57:11", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01768", "start_seconds": 17837.93, "clock": "04:57:17", "speaker_name": "Sen. Paolo Benigno “Bam” Aquino" }, { "segment_id": "S01768_A2", "start_seconds": 17843.29, "clock": "04:57:23", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01768_A3", "start_seconds": 17844.59, "clock": "04:57:24", "speaker_name": "Sen. Paolo Benigno “Bam” Aquino" }, { "segment_id": "S01768_A4", "start_seconds": 17856.68, "clock": "04:57:36", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01769", "start_seconds": 17856.8, "clock": "04:57:36", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" } ], "heading": "Corporate funds and personal wealth", "id": "P007", "kind": "finding", "text": "Another dispute concerned setting aside the corporations' separate personality, often called piercing the corporate veil. Cabrera used that approach to attribute undeclared corporate income to shareholders and identified tax fraud as his basis. He left the senator-judges to evaluate the approach. He could not establish that corporate outflows had reached the spouses personally. For Cale88 shareholder advances, he used the spouse's 47.5 percent interest and corporate statements, without loan documents, and treated the amount as a receivable requiring SALN disclosure. Senator Paolo Benigno \"Bam\" Aquino tested the assumptions about ownership and distribution, and insisted that the final figure follow the evidence when Cabrera suggested excluded confidential funds could replace a removed component." }, { "citations": [ { "segment_id": "S02848", "start_seconds": 26950.52, "clock": "07:29:10", "speaker_name": "Sen. Francis \"Chiz\" G. Escudero" }, { "segment_id": "S02849", "start_seconds": 26974.4, "clock": "07:29:34", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02851", "start_seconds": 26975.76, "clock": "07:29:35", "speaker_name": "Sen. Francis \"Chiz\" G. Escudero" }, { "segment_id": "S02853", "start_seconds": 26991.9, "clock": "07:29:51", "speaker_name": "Sen. Francis \"Chiz\" G. Escudero" }, { "segment_id": "S02854", "start_seconds": 27015.76, "clock": "07:30:15", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02856", "start_seconds": 27018.72, "clock": "07:30:18", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02858", "start_seconds": 27020.28, "clock": "07:30:20", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02859", "start_seconds": 27020.8, "clock": "07:30:20", "speaker_name": "Sen. Francis \"Chiz\" G. Escudero" }, { "segment_id": "S02860", "start_seconds": 27051.88, "clock": "07:30:51", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02862", "start_seconds": 27111.52, "clock": "07:31:51", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02864", "start_seconds": 27115.18, "clock": "07:31:55", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02866", "start_seconds": 27124.75, "clock": "07:32:04", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. 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Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02607", "start_seconds": 25585.97, "clock": "07:06:25", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02611", "start_seconds": 25613.43, "clock": "07:06:53", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02614", "start_seconds": 25633.27, "clock": "07:07:13", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02618_Q2", "start_seconds": 25648.62, "clock": "07:07:28", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" } ], "heading": "Separate components and figures to reconcile", "id": "P008", "kind": "finding", "text": "In substantive questioning, Senator Francis \"Chiz\" G. Escudero separated the estimate into about 212.63 million pesos attributed to GenCorp, about 142.20 million to Metro City Chow and Cale88, and about 463.05 million remaining in the bank-and-insurance calculation. Cabrera agreed that the remainder excluded the corporations. Asked for a less conservative ceiling, he estimated roughly 1.5 billion pesos using excluded confidential funds, an AMLC discrepancy and a higher GenCorp ownership assumption. He agreed that payable taxes and other liabilities would be deducted. Separately, he acknowledged possible repeated compensation in the income calculation, saying correction of the roughly 14.37 million peso addition would increase his wealth estimate. Differences between wealth and tax tables still needed reconciliation." }, { "citations": [ { "segment_id": "S01221", "start_seconds": 12095.369999999999, "clock": "03:21:35", "speaker_name": "Sen. Joel Villanueva" }, { "segment_id": "S01223", "start_seconds": 12112.1, "clock": "03:21:52", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01226", "start_seconds": 12127.76, "clock": "03:22:07", "speaker_name": "Sen. Joel Villanueva" }, { "segment_id": "S01227", "start_seconds": 12134.08, "clock": "03:22:14", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01229", "start_seconds": 12167.79, "clock": "03:22:47", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01231", "start_seconds": 12195.369999999999, "clock": "03:23:15", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01233", "start_seconds": 12257.98, "clock": "03:24:17", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01235", "start_seconds": 12268.68, "clock": "03:24:28", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01245", "start_seconds": 12394.35, "clock": "03:26:34", "speaker_name": "Sen. Joel Villanueva" }, { "segment_id": "S01247", "start_seconds": 12484.51, "clock": "03:28:04", "speaker_name": "Sen. Joel Villanueva" }, { "segment_id": "S01263_A2", "start_seconds": 12596.96, "clock": "03:29:56", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01267_Q2", "start_seconds": 12634.2, "clock": "03:30:34", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01790", "start_seconds": 18000.0, "clock": "05:00:00", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01792", "start_seconds": 18003.75, "clock": "05:00:03", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01794", "start_seconds": 18014.18, "clock": "05:00:14", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02591", "start_seconds": 25518.82, "clock": "07:05:18", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02593", "start_seconds": 25529.12, "clock": "07:05:29", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02595", "start_seconds": 25538.02, "clock": "07:05:38", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02607", "start_seconds": 25585.97, "clock": "07:06:25", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02611", "start_seconds": 25613.43, "clock": "07:06:53", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02614", "start_seconds": 25633.27, "clock": "07:07:13", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02618_Q2", "start_seconds": 25648.62, "clock": "07:07:28", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01513", "start_seconds": 15467.31, "clock": "04:17:47", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01515", "start_seconds": 15474.33, "clock": "04:17:54", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01516", "start_seconds": 15474.89, "clock": "04:17:54", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02382", "start_seconds": 23416.4, "clock": "06:30:16", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02386", "start_seconds": 23429.68, "clock": "06:30:29", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01435", "start_seconds": 14844.48, "clock": "04:07:24", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. 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Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02398_F3", "start_seconds": 23552.16, "clock": "06:32:32", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02412", "start_seconds": 23777.02, "clock": "06:36:17", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02413", "start_seconds": 23786.11, "clock": "06:36:26", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02413_UNCOVERED_3", "start_seconds": 23798.5, "clock": "06:36:38", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02415", "start_seconds": 23804.99, "clock": "06:36:44", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02472", "start_seconds": 24578.11, "clock": "06:49:38", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02473", "start_seconds": 24590.41, "clock": "06:49:50", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01416", "start_seconds": 14597.05, "clock": "04:03:17", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01418", "start_seconds": 14624.72, "clock": "04:03:44", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02485", "start_seconds": 24673.86, "clock": "06:51:13", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02486", "start_seconds": 24697.08, "clock": "06:51:37", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02910", "start_seconds": 27445.47, "clock": "07:37:25", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" } ], "heading": "Tax and remittance reconciliation", "id": "P009", "kind": "finding", "text": "The tax discussion produced another unfinished numerical issue. Cabrera later called an earlier 250 million peso GenCorp tax discussion theoretical. He read a basic-tax total of 158 million, 36 thousand pesos from his report, covering individuals and corporations, and promised to reconcile the figures. He said the tax figures were outside the 817 million peso wealth computation. On Cale88 remittances, he said eliminating paired transactions reduced AMLC's 319 million pesos to 222 million in his report. He had no foreign-currency deposit statements and could not trace the conversion or destination. He described inventories, equipment and operating disclosures as weak relative to the company's reported scale, and called rapid pass-throughs money-laundering symptoms while expressly declining a money-laundering conclusion." }, { "citations": [ { "segment_id": "S01073", "start_seconds": 7159.99, "clock": "01:59:19", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S01073_Q2", "start_seconds": 7194.02, "clock": "01:59:54", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01074", "start_seconds": 7194.14, "clock": "01:59:54", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01406", "start_seconds": 14487.63, "clock": "04:01:27", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01411", "start_seconds": 14542.65, "clock": "04:02:22", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01467", "start_seconds": 15180.84, "clock": "04:13:00", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01469", "start_seconds": 15186.48, "clock": "04:13:06", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S01471", "start_seconds": 15190.25, "clock": "04:13:10", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02158", "start_seconds": 21353.7, "clock": "05:55:53", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02163", "start_seconds": 21368.52, "clock": "05:56:08", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02165", "start_seconds": 21414.76, "clock": "05:56:54", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S00593", "start_seconds": 4251.51, "clock": "01:10:51", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. 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Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00961", "start_seconds": 6531.52, "clock": "01:48:51", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00963_Q3", "start_seconds": 6555.64, "clock": "01:49:15", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00965", "start_seconds": 6567.97, "clock": "01:49:27", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00967", "start_seconds": 6573.49, "clock": "01:49:33", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00984", "start_seconds": 6668.97, "clock": "01:51:08", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00987", "start_seconds": 6690.85, "clock": "01:51:30", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S01032", "start_seconds": 6951.77, "clock": "01:55:51", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S01056", "start_seconds": 7073.1, "clock": "01:57:53", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S01062", "start_seconds": 7105.79, "clock": "01:58:25", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S01066", "start_seconds": 7126.49, "clock": "01:58:46", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S01082", "start_seconds": 7228.41, "clock": "02:00:28", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S01095", "start_seconds": 7284.55, "clock": "02:01:24", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S01098", "start_seconds": 7312.41, "clock": "02:01:52", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S01102_VIS2", "start_seconds": 7331.94, "clock": "02:02:11", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" } ], "heading": "Other evidence questions", "id": "P010", "kind": "finding", "text": "Cabrera characterized repeated year-end movements through manager's checks as concealment, while acknowledging that Duterte had not signed the applications and the transactions preceded 2022. He said self-payable checks still created receivables for SALN disclosure. Credit-card spending discussed in the hearing was flagged for investigation and excluded from the wealth total. Ferrer put sports-team purchases and group-travel expenses to him as explanations. Senator Erwin Tulfo also played property footage he described as coming from an NBI press conference and media reports. Cabrera said he needed titles, addresses, areas and related records to identify the properties or decide whether they were already declared or included. Diokno undertook to check the video." }, { "citations": [ { "segment_id": "S02941", "start_seconds": 27833.4, "clock": "07:43:53", "speaker_name": "Atty. Sheila C. 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Francis \"Chiz\" G. Escudero" }, { "segment_id": "S02930", "start_seconds": 27706.33, "clock": "07:41:46", "speaker_name": "Atty. Sheila C. Sison" }, { "segment_id": "S02932", "start_seconds": 27739.23, "clock": "07:42:19", "speaker_name": "Rep. Jose Manuel “Chel” I. Diokno" }, { "segment_id": "S02934_N4", "start_seconds": 27787.29, "clock": "07:43:07", "speaker_name": "Sen. Francis \"Chiz\" G. Escudero" }, { "segment_id": "S02936", "start_seconds": 27806.27, "clock": "07:43:26", "speaker_name": "Sen. Francis \"Chiz\" G. Escudero" }, { "segment_id": "S02955", "start_seconds": 28196.08, "clock": "07:49:56", "speaker_name": "Sen. Francis \"Chiz\" G. Escudero" }, { "segment_id": "S02967", "start_seconds": 28317.42, "clock": "07:51:57", "speaker_name": "Sen. Francis \"Chiz\" G. Escudero" } ], "heading": "The parties and the court", "id": "P011", "kind": "finding", "text": "After Cabrera was excused, Attorney Sheila C. Sison argued that wrongdoing must be clearly and convincingly established before corporate personality is disregarded. She cited Kukan International Corporation versus Reyes and said the respondent had not begun presenting evidence. Diokno answered with cases on corporations used for illegal acts or fraudulent schemes and argued that the reported underdeclaration percentages supplied clear and convincing evidence. The court allowed Sison's criticism of Cabrera's conclusions to remain after Diokno moved to strike it. Escudero directed that the cited cases be circulated to the senator-judges through official email, retained Sison's reply and closed the exchange. Earlier, the chair had directed a private AMLC-list rundown for the judges, explaining that the materials had not yet been formally offered or admitted." }, { "citations": [ { "segment_id": "S02919_COVERAGE_1", "start_seconds": 27583.49, "clock": "07:39:43", "speaker_name": "Sen. Francis \"Chiz\" G. 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Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S00872", "start_seconds": 5976.26, "clock": "01:39:36", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S00882", "start_seconds": 6038.74, "clock": "01:40:38", "speaker_name": "Atty. Kristine R. Ferrer" }, { "segment_id": "S02048", "start_seconds": 20522.97, "clock": "05:42:02", "speaker_name": "Sen. Pia S. Cayetano" }, { "segment_id": "S02049", "start_seconds": 20547.25, "clock": "05:42:27", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02082", "start_seconds": 20740.97, "clock": "05:45:40", "speaker_name": "Sen. Pia S. Cayetano" }, { "segment_id": "S02083", "start_seconds": 20772.09, "clock": "05:46:12", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. Cabrera" }, { "segment_id": "S02090", "start_seconds": 20788.25, "clock": "05:46:28", "speaker_name": "Sen. Pia S. Cayetano" }, { "segment_id": "S02091", "start_seconds": 20800.97, "clock": "05:46:40", "speaker_name": "Atty. Alexander B. 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The court planned final prosecution manifestations and administrative matters for the next sitting. Sison proposed handling formal-offer arrangements that afternoon, but Escudero explained that the court was still preparing confidentiality and transparency procedures for documents in the anticipated prosecution formal offer. She agreed to defer her remaining manifestations, and Diokno deferred manifestations on exhibit markings. Acting on Senator Vicente C. Sotto the Third's motion, the chair suspended the trial until one p.m. the next day. Cabrera's examination had ended, while numerical reconciliation, the GenCorp ownership dispute and the next procedural arrangements remained open." }, { "citations": [], "heading": "Closing", "id": "P013", "kind": "outro", "text": "Each substantive point in this overview links to the reviewed transcript and the official Senate video. This has been the October 12, 2026 audio overview." } ], "source_digest_id": 101, "source_digest_sha256": "d6ac428523d6b86af2a5932579dc69dcb6b5b0d25c3f7dcb80aa103d30d56e91", "title": "October 12, 2026: Cabrera completes examination" }