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      "text": "Amora completed cross-examination with no redirect and was excused. Her totals document remained for marking at the proper time outside open court. The prosecution requested deferral of the BIR witness; she was not presented and was excused for the day.\n\nThe clerk was to summarize requested bank material for the senator-judges and both parties. A requested BDO manager's-check explanation would be supplied if included in subpoenaed submissions, and the China and Hong Kong company-information request remained in process. The chair suspended trial until the following day at ten in the morning."
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