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DOE and ERC

House Committee on Appropriations · September 2, 2026

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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Kindly settle down. Take your seats. We will start in one minute. Quiet, please. We will start in one minute. Settle down.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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Okay. Silence, please. Quiet, please. Stop talking.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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Hearing of the Committee on Appropriation on House Bill No. 10858, Fiscal Year 2027, General Appropriations Bill is hereby resumed.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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ComSec, please acknowledge the members present and the resource persons present today.

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Good morning. We would like to acknowledge the presence of our Honorable Members, Deputy Minority Leader,

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Percy Sandana, Vice Chair Arnie Fentebella, Vice Chair Josefina Taliado, Representative Leo Rodriguez,

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Representative Celso Lehencia, Representative Nelson Legacion, Representative Marco Juanco,

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Representative Attorney J.P. Padernos, Representative Chelle Jocno, Representative Alan T.,

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Vice Chair Dante Garcia, Representative Robert Nazal.

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And we would also like to acknowledge the members present today.

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We would also like to acknowledge the Department of Energy,

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Headed by Secretary Sharon Esgarin,

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USEC Felix William Fentebella,

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USEC Giovanni Carlo Bacordo,

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USEC Alessandro Sales,

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USEC Rowena Cristina Guevara,

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USEC Ronald Gonquilla,

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USEC Mario Marasigan,

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USEC Rio Innocencio,

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USEC Maria Francesca Del Rosario,

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USEC Fairlaa S kethaalivara,

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USEC Del Bosco Ynmaybea,

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USEC Elano Salvier,

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USEC Justiira Andra,

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From the National Electrification Administration, Administrator Antonio Mariano Almeida, Deputy

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Administrator Vic Alvaro, Deputy Administrator Rosanne Rosero Lee, Deputy Administrator Attorney

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Omar Mayo, Acting Deputy Administrator Wilfredo Buxit.

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From the National Power Corporation, President and CEO Jericho Jonas Nograles, Senior Vice

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President Attorney Melchor Ridulme, Vice President Attorney Delphine Buenafe, Vice

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President Rene Baruela, Vice President Crisanto Hilario, Vice President Larry Sabelina, Vice

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President Sergio Villafuerte.

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From the Philippine National

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Oil Company, President and CEO Franz Joseph George Alvarez, Senior Vice President Attorney

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Josephine Cassandra Cui, Senior Vice President Attorney Graciela Barletta.

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From the Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation, President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay,

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Vice President Candido Magsombol.

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From the Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management Corporation, President and CEO

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Dennis Edward de la Serna.

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Vice President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna.

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Vice President Manuel Marcos Villalón II.

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And from the National Transmission Corporation, President and CEO Attorney Joseph Omar Castillo.

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Vice President Dina Dizon, Vice President Maria Teresa Laranang, and Officer in Charge,

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Vice President Attorney Dexter Egbert Alvin Roy Comiso.

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That's all, Mr. Chair.

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Sir, we have additional House members.

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What's that now, ma'am?

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We have acknowledged the Presidents ofrule and器.

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Costa Rica.

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Olá, President.

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Hello, President.

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Hello.

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Hello, Vice President.

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Hello, President.

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Hello, President.

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Chair Jose Alvarez, Deputy Majority Leader Gil Acosta,

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Representative Adrian Salceda,

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and Representative Christine Meehan-Sinson,

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and Vice Chairman Nick Lagdameo.

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That's all, Mr. Chair.

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We would also like to acknowledge our co-sponsor for the DOE and ERC,

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Vice Chair Maria Sofina Taliado.

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And Representative Christo Fergo.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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Thank you, ComSec.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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Good morning.

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I again have the honor of welcoming our friends

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from the D.C.

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for the Department of Energy and the ERC

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and the entire energy family

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for the briefing of their proposed budget for fiscal year 2027.

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153 pesos and 70 centavos.

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This was the highest price of diesel

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when the conflict between the United States and Iran

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caused the effective closure of the Strait of Hormuz.

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Transport operations,

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food production,

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businesses and households' budgets came under severe strain.

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Deadline inflation reached 7.2% in April 2026,

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while grid alerts heightened concerns over power reliability.

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The President responded by declaring a State of National Energy Emergency

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under Executive Order No. 110.

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The order recognized what the crisis meant for us,

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geopolitical countries,

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political conflict had disrupted global energy supply chains

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and placed upward pressure on fuel prices,

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threatening the adequacy and stability of our domestic energy supply.

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But while a declaration and emergency procurement can stabilize a crisis,

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they cannot substitute for preparedness built before the shock arrives.

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Leadership, competence and strong institutions matter.

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That is why the Energy Family deserves both our support and our careful scrutiny.

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Under the able leadership of the President,

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the Uplift Committee,

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and particularly through the efforts of our good Secretary Sharon Garin,

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the Energy Family acted swiftly to stabilize supply

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and limit further the domestic disruption.

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These efforts deserve recognition,

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even as they require our support.

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It is time for us to ask why extraordinary emergency measures became necessary.

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DOE acted immediately,

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conserving critical inventories,

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improving fuel dispatch,

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securing more than 178 million liters of diesel to build an emergency fuel buffer,

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managing price adjustments,

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supporting targeted assistance,

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guarding against hoarding and profiteering,

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and strengthening conservation measures.

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This was a significant corrective measure,

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but it must now be converted into a permanent,

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rules-based preparedness mechanism.

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The ERC intensified market oversight and adopted measures

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to caution consumers from abrupt fuel shocks.

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Its heightened data requirements helped identify generation costs,

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pressures and the interventions needed.

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For fiscal year 2027,

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this capacity should be strengthened through real-time monitoring,

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faster regulatory action,

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and automatic protection for qualified lifeline consumers.

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The Energy Family stood on the front line of the response

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and reduced the risk of a deeper disruption.

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At the same time, the crisis revealed an implementation gap.

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A strategic petroleum reserve had been established in policy,

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since 2021,

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and supported by a completed study in 2022.

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Although it was not fully operational when the shock arrived,

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the lesson is clear.

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Policy declarations must become funded,

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measurable and operational capabilities.

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In a State of the Nation address,

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the President spoke at length about the energy industry.

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He aptly said,

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the past few months have reminded us that we need to increase

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the amount of electricity we are receiving.

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This is a sign of a strong country.

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The President called for stronger energy security,

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improved investment conditions for local and foreign capital,

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and an expedited shift toward indigenous renewable energy.

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Together with energy storage and more reliable transmission.

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His emphasis on these priorities reflects the central role of the Energy Family

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in advancing his vision of a stronger,

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more resilient and more prosperous Philippines.

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To my fellow legislators,

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a country that needs energy security cannot afford,

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and under an unprecedented crisis,

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an underfunded energy sector.

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We have just witnessed what a war happening thousands of miles away

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can do to our energy supply.

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And we must now prepare for El Nino,

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related risk to hydropower, peak demand and reserve margins.

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But we have also seen what the Energy Family can accomplish

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when institutions act decisively.

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The challenge now is to institutionalize the capacity

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before the next emergency.

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Swift action matters.

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Intelligent policy interventions matter.

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Regulatory capacity, technical capacity,

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and consumer protection all matter.

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And all of these require sustained,

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well-targeted public support backed by measurable performance.

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The combined proposal budget of the Energy Family

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in the amount of 56.1 billion

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is not simply an expenditure.

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It is an investment in national resilience,

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an insurance policy against disruption,

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and a catalyst for the reliable, affordable,

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and secure energy system our economy requires.

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The budget should specify targets for strategic fuel reserves

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and days of supply,

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diversified import sources,

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emergency procurement lead times,

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lead reserve margins,

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transmission and storage completion,

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off-grid fuel security,

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renewable capacity,

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and consumer protection.

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Let us provide the Energy Family with the resources

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and the laws it needs,

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not only to respond to the next crisis,

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but to prepare before it arrives.

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Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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Thank you, Mr. President.

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Secretary Sharon Garin,

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we may now proceed with your presentation.

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And after you,

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DRC.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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Yes, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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Good morning, Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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You have the floor, ma'am.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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Good morning, Chair,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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and thank you very much to the honorable members

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of this committee.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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So, Chair, it's good to be back.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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I have to say I was appointed last year.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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My confirmation was October 8, 2025.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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It's been a year.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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It's been more stressful

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and more work compared to my 12 years in Congress.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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It has not been an easy year for DOE,

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but I think we have –

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the problems are not done yet.

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The oil crisis is still not over in the Middle East.

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But I think the DOE has maintained it

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with grace and steady hand throughout the crisis.

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And I have to –

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before we proceed to the presentation,

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I would like to thank my team,

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all the undersecretaries that are here.

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Thank you very much to you

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because they have really worked hard

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and extra hours just to make sure that everything's steady.

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And, of course, to the presidents

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or the administrator of our GOCC, Mr. Chair.

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But then, as again, this is not over yet.

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And in addition to the –

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to the what we have done,

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I think DOE has learned so many lessons from this crisis.

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Hence, we are here, Mr. Chair,

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with a request for –

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our budget approval because this budget will implement the measures that were not there

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or the programs that were not there during the oil crisis and hopefully the next one will be

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an easier burden for the country and for our consumers mr chair so for our presentation

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mr chair i'd like to ask under secretary uh yousef bacordo to to take the lead

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

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yes you said you're recognized thank you thank you sir thank you madam secretary the honorable

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arnie fentebella the presiding chair presiding officer and vice chair of the house committee

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on appropriations honorable members of the committee who were earlier recognized members

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of the energy family led by our hyperactive secretary sharon esgarin ladies and gentlemen

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

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good morning allow me to present the department of energy's major accomplishment

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along with the proposed budget for fiscal year 2027 and the plans and programs for the budget

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year allow me to begin with the department's major accomplishments in response to the energy

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emergency caused by the middle east conflict the doe in coordination with other agencies

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employed a whole of government approach in securing fuel supply implementing staggered

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fuel price adjustments prescribing the price adjustment

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for oil companies implementing fuel subsidy programs preventing hoarding and profiteering

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enforcing energy efficiency and conservation measures and setting up support measures

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for the transport and agricultural sectors the country maintains an average available fuel supply

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of 50 days following the president's directive during the 2025 sauna the doe with nea and erc

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restored

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24-7 electricity service in Siquijor. The department also caused decisively to address

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the prolonged power interruptions in Catanduanas, working closely with NPC, NEA, and FISELCO

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to restore reliable electricity service across the province. The department has also been

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unwavering in its disaster response efforts to ensure power restoration and continuity

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of fuel supply in affected areas. As of December 2025, the country's household

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electrification level has reached 94.93%, with around 28.75 million households energized

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out of the 30.28 million potential households. Our RE, or renewable energy share, in the

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generation mix increased to 25.04% in 2025.

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Through the Green Energy Auction Program, we have already awarded 20.7 GW of RE capacity,

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with another 25 GW planned for auction from 2027 to 2035.

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The RE sector continues to be the leading contributor to Green Lane investments, with

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187 endorsed projects, amounting to 5.46 trillion pesos since 2023, accounting for 86% of investments

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projects, amounting to 5.46 trillion pesos since 2023, accounting for 86% of investments

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under the Board of Investments' Green Lane program.

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From the start of the Marcos Jr.'s administration to date, the country's power capacity continued

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to grow, with installed capacity increasing by 5,461

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megawatts, or 21.1%

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increase, while dependable capacity increased by 5,400

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megawatts, or a 23.5% increase. To further support the timely delivery of committed

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power projects and ensure that capacity additions are brought online as scheduled, the DOE established

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Task Force 200, pursuant to the President's pronouncements during the 2025 SONA. The Task

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Force

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closely monitors and

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facilitates the implementation

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of 200 committed

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projects. To date,

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48 power projects

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are now completed and

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commercially operational,

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adding 1,846.63 MW to the grid.

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provide the power to the entire power sector, and which will improve the power and utility

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efficiency of the power grid in the future.

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The DOE project is also an open and sustainable project with the goal to increase the full

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power generation capacity, which takes place in 2020 by Delegation of the Power Project

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and the immediate development of best power generation system.

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The DOE project is expected to receive a total of 4, constructive design from KMT, and will

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46.63 megawatts to the grid. This includes 12 BESS projects with a combined capacity

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of 229.37 megawatts that support grid stability and frequency regulation.

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In the upstream sector, the 14 petroleum service contracts recently signed by the President

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will generate $324 million dollars potential investments.

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The successful drilling of Camago 3 and Malampaya East 1 wells under Service Contract 38 yielded

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estimated reserves of 222 billion cubic feet of gas, extending operations to 2034 and providing

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enough fuel to power 13.11 million households for one year.

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We now proceed to the next stage of the project.

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We present the Department's proposed 2027 budget.

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The DOE's revenue collections for the National Government have consistently exceeded its

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approved budget. Collections were driven mainly by the Malampaya

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Gas Fund. Its decline, however, was offset by improved collections from RE sources.

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For 2026, the total projected revenue collection is 6.06 billion pesos.

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For 2027, revenues are projected to reach 23 billion, mainly because of Malampaya Phase

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IV. RE collections are also expected to continue increasing.

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For fiscal year 2027, the DOE's total proposed budget is 5.58 billion, reflecting an increase

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of 1.14 billion, or 25.74%, compared with the fiscal year 2026 GAA of

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4.43 billion pesos.

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The 2027 budget is composed of 36.4% new appropriations and 63.6% automatic

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appropriations from the special account in the General Fund. In other words, the Department's

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budgetary requirements will be heavily supported through the SAGF. This chart shows the DOE's

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budget utilization rate from 2022 to 31 July 2026. As of 31 August 2026, the obligation rate is at 49%.

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Upon completion of the procurement of the mobile energy system and the DOE automation project,

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which are already undergoing procurement, the obligation rate will increase to 68.31%.

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The DOE expects to reach at least 95.8%

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utilization rate for 2026. The increase in the DOE's recommended 2027 budget from the current

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year's budget level is in large part owing to increased funding for these three major projects.

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The Philippine Grade Geometry and Seismic Survey Project, or simply the Grade Geometry Project.

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Second, the Mobile Energy Systems, or the MES, under the Total Electrification Project. And third,

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the issp which includes the doe automation project the gray geometry project is the

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department's initiative to improve resource mapping and prospect identification reduce

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exploration risk and help attract greater upstream energy investments in the philippines

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by generating higher quality geophysical data across priority petroleum basins the

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grid geometry project covers 120 000 square kilometers the area would support up to 120

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individual exploration service contracts using the data from the 12 recently awarded exploration

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contracts representing just 10 percent of the total potential blocks 12 contracts could already

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account for approximately 16.8 billion pesos of potential private sector investments and that

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doesn't

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even include actual discoveries under the total electrification project the department is

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procuring mes that will provide renewable rapidly deployable and modular solutions

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designed for immediate interim and sustainable electricity access for both disaster response

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and electrification purposes for 2026 we are utilizing 500 million from current

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appropriations and 21 million from continuing appropriations for 2027 we are proposing 600

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million budget for at least 60 additional mes units for 2027 we propose a budget of 950 million

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for issp of which 491 million or 52 is for automation while 458 million or 48 is for other ict requirements

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the automation project will transform fragmented standalone systems into a unified

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streamlined automated and ai enabled enterprise platform it will improve efficiency and

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transparency strengthen accountability and regular regulatory compliance and reduce opportunity

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opportunities for discretion manipulation and corruption finally we present a summary of the

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department's major plans and programs

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first we accelerate energy resource development the biggest investment of the doe is on the

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grid geometry project which is expected to significantly increase oil and gas exploration

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in the country we are implementing the philippine geothermal de-risking facility to revive geothermal

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exploration in the philippines we are also conducting additional green energy auctions such

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as waste-to-energy, offshore wind, agro-solar, solar on stilts, solar on irrigation canals,

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and off-grid areas. Nuclear energy remains part of the DOE's long-term energy strategy,

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functioning as cheaper and more reliable baseload power. The mid-merit natural gas capacity auction

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is targeted to be completed by December of 2026. We also have major plans and programs

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to ensure energy security, including the deployment of MES, establishment of a state-owned

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strategic petroleum reserve, permutation of the Visayas, Mindoro, and Palawan energy master

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plants, implementation of policies for generation companies' accountability, review of systems loss

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related policies and programs, push for government-wide adoption of electric vehicles or EVs,

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and deployment of EV charging stations. We also have several key projects to strengthen

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governance, including the full digitalization, automation, and AI transformation of DOE,

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the establishment of the Center for Energy Excellence, comprising of the Energy Museum,

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Energy Academy, and the R&D Center, the strengthening of DOE manpower, the modernization

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nationwide command center, and the upgrading of DOE facilities to achieve net-zero energy consumption.

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Mr. Chair, the honorable members of the committee, this ends my presentation.

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Thank you for your kind attention.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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Thank you, Yusek. Thank you very much. Next to present, Chairman Francis Wan. You have the floor, sir.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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Thank you very much, Mr. Chairperson and the honorable members of the committee.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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Good morning. I am Francis Attenino C. Wan, the chairperson and CEO of the Energy Regulatory

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Commission, and thank you for this opportunity to present our budget for 2027.

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The ERC is an independent quasi-judicial body created under the IPERA.

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And with me in the commission are four other commissioners, Commissioner Florescinda Digal, Marco Fuentes, Amante Liberato, and Paris Real.

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Our mandate is to promote market competition, ensure consumer choice, protect consumer interests, keep retail rates based on prudent and reasonable cost recovery, and penalize abuse of market power.

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We regulate and oversee the full electricity value chain, the regulated sectors, namely the transmission and the distribution sectors, as well as the competitive sectors, the generation and supply.

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And at the center of everything we do are the consumers, upholding the rights and interests of our consumers, both captive and contestable.

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The slide four is on the...

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In the sector that we regulate, it is currently valued at around 4.19 trillion.

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And this is just to emphasize the scale of the sector that our proposed budget of 944 million must support.

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For ERC accomplishments, we have issued so far for a period from January 2025 until June 2026,

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4,000...

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and 611 decisions and orders.

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We have imposed 157 millions in fines.

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We have directed the refund of around 71.3 billion.

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P70 billion of that came from Meralco's filing of its actual weighted average tariff for the lapsed years during the time when its rates were not reset by the earlier commission.

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We have approved 292 power supply agreements.

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These are the agreements between distribution utilities and generation companies for the supply of electricity.

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And 184 of that with the final authority.

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Comparing that to the performance of ERC during the entire 2024, we have approved in 2024 only two power supply agreement applications and five CAPEX applications.

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For the lifeline rate program in...

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response to the call of the president to expand the scope and coverage of the lifeline program under IPIRA as extended by law.

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We have actually launched a national lifeline program, expanded its coverage to up to 50 kilowatt hours for the marginalized end users.

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And right now, the coverage...

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is up by 85.33%.

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And right now, we are able to cater to around 620,000 qualified marginalized end users.

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Net metering also, in response to the call of the president, net metering registrations are up 51.77%.

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And so far as the implementation of retail competition or ARCOA, with even the lowering of the threshold...

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to 100 kilowatt, where those with demand of 100 kilowatt can now choose their own supplier, we've seen and estimated that the cost savings to these customers that opted to avail of their choice and contracted with retailers, the estimated cost savings to them already amounted to 19.87 billion.

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So, among the landmark...

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decisions that we have issued, aside from the lowering of the contestable threshold to 100 kilowatt, we have issued the first ever transmission wheeling rules for the off-grid.

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This is the first time that we would have a regulatory framework for the transmission service to be provided in the off-grid areas, starting with Mindoro and Palawan as soon as this is established.

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We have...

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restarted the rate reset of our private distribution utilities and directed the private distribution utilities to respectively file their actual weighted average tariff filings.

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And we have also addressed thousands of CAPEX filings and point-to-point transmission proposals.

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We have disposed of thousands of them.

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And we have supported the push for renewable energy by performing our part in the J-UP program of the Department of Energy.

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We have set the reserve price for the off-grid.

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For the offshore wind, we have also...

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set the reserve price for the Pioneer Waste to Energy Projects.

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We have established for the first time the Green Energy Auction Allowance to be able to support the new capacities that are being built under the J-UP program of the Department of Energy.

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We have also updated our rules on the advanced metering infrastructure...

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so that we can finally modernize our grid.

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We have addressed long-standing issues in the generation sector, such as the public offering requirement,

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the fit adjustment issue.

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We have updated the fit allowance.

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We have updated the UCME as well as the SAGAR in some of the off-grid areas.

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And every one of these, among others, was delivered within...

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our approved budget for 2026.

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And for 2027, our priorities remain to have fair and evidence-based rate setting, timely resolution of pending cases, robust oversight to foster competition, and a stable and enhanced regulatory environment to attract investment in our sector.

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And all these are anchored in proactive consumer finance.

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For our thrust on fair and evidence-based rate setting, aside from setting the gear prices for our J-UP, we have already issued the draft rules governing the regulatory framework for our gas auction.

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We will soon be finalizing that.

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We are targeting to...

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enforce more strictly the distribution utilities' least-cost supply obligations under our revised 2026 CSP guidelines.

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And soon, the guidelines that we will issue on the review of the terms of reference to be used by our distribution utilities that will be conducting their CSPs.

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And that will also include our target of conducting more timely...

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audits of the de-use implementation of their pass-through charges.

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We will also complete the reset of the rates of the distribution utilities, both the private distribution utilities and the electric cooperatives.

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This has not been done in more than 10 years.

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There has been no new rates approved for our distribution utilities.

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But only just last month.

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We have already approved the final determination for the rate reset of one of our private distribution utilities belonging to the Group A under the performance-based regulation.

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And all the other distribution utilities in Group A will follow suit.

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We are targeting to complete the rate reset of Group B within the year and for Group C and D for the private distribution utilities.

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All this will happen in 2027.

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So this is something that was not done in more than a decade.

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And we are targeting to finish the rate reset of the private distribution utilities in 2027.

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Also, the new rates of our electric cooperatives, we target that they would have already their new rates to be implemented starting January.

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Again, this is something that has not been done.

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For more than a decade.

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The last rate setting for our electric cooperatives happened in early 2010.

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So after more than a decade, we will soon have their new rates.

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And this is in time also for the push now for our distribution utilities to address their system losses.

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And prepare them for the eventual removal of the system losses.

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As indicated by the President.

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For the trust on consumer-focused leadership, we have just approved the revised Magna Carta for electricity consumers.

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And we intend to conduct an extensive information and education campaign across the country to be able to educate and inform.

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Our consumers as regards their rights under the Magna Carta.

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For our budget, our budget for 2027.

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Or over the years, our GAA grew modestly from 911.6 million in 2024 to 931 million in 2026.

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Or increases of roughly 2%.

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And then.

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0.04%.

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We have proposed a budget of 1.7 billion to be able to cover all the plans and programs that we intend to implement for 2027.

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Unfortunately, the NEP only reflects 944.065 million or 44.67% below what we proposed.

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The variance.

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Is.

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Concentrated mainly in the MOOE and capital outlay.

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And in the MOOE included there is the budget for the consultancy services that we intended supposedly to assist us complete the rate reset of our private distribution utilities and electric cooperatives as well as NGCP for 2027.

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Our overall utilization rate has climbed.

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Steadily.

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So that will show our absorptive capacity and our ability to responsibly manage a larger budget.

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So from a low of 28.08% in 2021, it has risen to 46.81 in June of 2026.

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So that covers the first semester of the year.

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And.

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On an annual basis, our full year utilization last year was already at 84.20% up from a low of 62%.

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In 2023, our revenues, we have consistently brought in more to the to the government in terms of the supervision fees, as well as the permit fees and fines that we collect.

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And.

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The.

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And.

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In 2025.

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With a budget of 20 of 931 million, we were able to bring to the government a total of 2.354 billion in revenue or 121% above our, our projection.

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And definitely way above the budget that was allocated for us in 2025.

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And.

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We expect that we will hit the same level for 2027 so bottom line is the ERC is a net revenue generator for the government and this budget request of 1.7 billion would have been offset by what we return to the treasury and unfortunately our NEP stands out.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000449

It stands only at 944 million. That will be the end of my presentation. Your honors, thank you very much.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000450

Thank you, Chair. This is going to be a working lunch. Para lang malaman ng colleagues natin, we distributed a presentation of NEA, NAPOCOR, PNOC, PNOC-EC, PISAM, and TRANSCO.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000451

So nasa inyo na po yung briefer po nila. Para po mas mabilis po tayo.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000452

But before I call on to the interpreter, I would like to recognize Congressman Salvador Plato, Vice Chair Bernadette Barberis, Vice Chair Maria Cristina Talavera Lopez, Deputy Minority Leader Presley Desus, Congressman John Chan,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000453

Congressman Julio Cesar Vergara, Congressman Steve Solon, Congressman Dibutuan, Congressman Ernel Ceniza, Congressman Munir Arbizon, Congressman Joseph Yu, Vice Chair Isabela Zagadbaria, Representative Catherine Guraceta.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000454

Thank you for your presence.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000455

The interpellation may remind our distinguished colleagues that each member is allotted five minutes for questions or interpellation, excluding the response of the resource person.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000456

When the bell sounds, the members have 30 minutes to conclude or wind up.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000457

Consistent with the longstanding practice of the House, the Chair shall recognize minority.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000458

Independent and majority members in an alternating manner when practicable.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000459

The Chair first recognizes the Honorable Percy Zendanya from the minority.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000460

Pag-uswang Percy, you have the floor.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000461

Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair. Magandang umaga po sa DOE family led by Secretary Sharon.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000462

Ito po mga nakakaraang araw.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000463

karami-rami na po tayo ng mga hinarap ng mga budget briefings.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000464

At kadalasan po, yung mga budget briefings na ito ay mga grievance mechanisms

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000465

para po sa mga departamento na nakaranas ng matinding mga pagbabas sa kanilang budget.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000466

At siguro po, in so many days, this is the first time na wala akong gano'ng narinig

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000467

na grievance from our colleagues from the executive.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000468

Napansin ko rin po na across all areas, from PS, MOOE hanggang CO,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000469

ay may increase po tayo with an overall increase of more than a little over 25%.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000470

Secretary Green, why is this the case po for DOE kaya?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000471

I think, Mr. Chair, I think because the increases are focused on three things.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000472

It's the gradiometry, mobile energy system, and the automation.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000473

Just briefly lang.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000474

Yung gradiometry.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000475

Kasi wala tayong data on what we have as resources here in the Philippines

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000476

on oil and gas and other matters.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000477

So, this should have been done 10, 20 years back.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000478

That's why we don't have any new exploration.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000479

We only have malampaya until today.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000480

So, with that new data, investors will see what we have.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000481

We cannot sell something that we don't know what's in it.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000482

So, that's why we need the gradiometry study.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000483

It will take about 2 billion pesos.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000484

This is a continuing project, 2026.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000485

2026 was funded.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000486

So, another budget was allotted for 2027, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000487

This is for energy security.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000488

Now, the MES is a mobile energy system na parang siyang container.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000489

Tapos may mga solar panels with battery and maybe turbina ng for diesel or whatever technology there is.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000490

That will address that whenever there's an emergency,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000491

we can deploy these units to, for example,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000492

the usual path would be like Masbate, Bicol area, and up to the north.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000493

So, we'll deploy it strategically in some parts also, in some islands na wala talagang connection.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000494

We can put it there like what we did in Kalayaan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000495

Kalayaan ba tama?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000496

Pag-asa pala.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000497

Pag-asa.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000498

The third one, sir, is the ISSP.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000499

DOE needs to be automated.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000500

Otherwise, there are more contracts.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000501

Every year and every month, actually, but the system is still manual.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000502

So, for us to have a more data-driven data analysis also of what we need as policies,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000503

we need it to be automated so we can move faster and be more transparent.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000504

So, this is to automate from front to back end, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000505

So, those are the three that contributed to the 25% increase, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000506

Kaya ako po tinanong, kasi mapapasana all po pala tayo when we listen to the budget of the DOE.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000507

Sana yung equally critical agencies natin, lalong-lalong yung social services,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000508

would also enjoy the same increase in their budget and not a significant cut as we have seen the past few days.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000509

Thank you, Madam Secretary, for the very comprehensive explanation.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000510

Alam ko po, bahagi ito na isang malaking programa at isang malaking plano.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000511

Pero po para sa ating mga kababayan na nakikinig, given all this po,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000512

bababa na po ba ang presyo ng kuryente?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000513

Mr. Chair, just before that, Mr. Chair,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000514

the 25% increase in comparison to the other agencies is 25% of 2.5 billion.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000515

It's really very small compared to the other agencies.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000516

Now, to lower the price of electricity, it's a very multifaceted issue.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000517

We are, if we have, generally, yes, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000518

If you ask me, yes, it will lower the price.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000519

If we have more oil and gas that are indigenous, yes, it will lower it.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000520

If we have more renewable, yes, it will lower it.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000521

If we have a good coordination between the policy and then the regulation,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000522

those are several, we need several things to make it lower and lower.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000523

And all these policies, eventually, the intention of all the policies that DOE is doing now,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000524

the intention really is to lower the rates, sir.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000525

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000526

Maraming salamat po, Madam Secretary, for giving that assurance sa mga kababayan po nating nanonood.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000527

At araw-araw po ay kinakabanting makakatanggap ng kanilang electric bill.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000528

Alam na po siguro ng NEA na itatanong ko ang question na ito.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000529

Sukin nyo na po ako taon-taon.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000530

Pero nalulungkot po ako na sukin nyo ako taon-taon.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000531

Last year po sa budget hearing natin, nabanggit po ng NEA Administrator, Nani Almeda,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000532

na i-rescind ng NEA ang Memorandum No. 2023-52.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000533

Pero alam po natin na hindi ito na-rescind.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000534

And in fact, suspended lamang po ito.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000535

Ang tanong ko po, bakit po hindi pa na-rescind ng NEA ang iligal na memorandum na ito?

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000536

Tapos kanina po kasi, I was looking at the presentation,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000537

ang dami pong mga linemen na mga electric co-ops,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000538

na siyang bayani natin para ma-restore ang electricity every time merong malaking sakuna sa ating bansa.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000539

Pero marami po sa kanila na pagkakaitan ng collective bargaining agreement

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000540

dahil po dito sa inyong iligal na memorandum na ito.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000541

So ma, ano po nangyari, Admin Almeda?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000542

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000543

We have addressed the situation of the collective bargaining agreement issue.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000544

Just for the information of the committee,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000545

we have already sat down with the Secretary of Labor and the various groups

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000546

and we are coming up with a manualization of the Electric Cooperative Industry Tripartite Council.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000547

Okay.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000548

Wherein DOLE, the National Mediation Board, NEA, and the labor groups

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000549

will work together in a technical working group committee

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000550

to come up with the guidelines of the rules that will govern the collective bargaining agreement.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000551

I beg your indulgence, sir.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000552

We cannot...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000553

The memorandum...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000554

The subject memorandum is suspended.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000555

It's suspended for the simple reason that there are peculiarities in the electric cooperative industry.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000556

That has to be considered.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000557

But we are trying to resolve everything through this tripartite council

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000558

as well as the due representation of the federation and the labor groups concerned.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000559

And hopefully, we can move forward.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000560

We have already convened two weeks ago.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000561

Our next meeting will be on September 10.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000562

And once we are able to come up with a resolution through the tripartite council,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000563

everything will be within the framework of the manualization, sir.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000564

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000565

Maraming salamat po, Admin Almeda.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000566

Pasensya na po kayo sa impatience, no?

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000567

Kasi marami po ang mga nakabimbi ng mga CBA ng ating mga unions,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000568

iba't iba mga power cooperatives po sa ating bansa.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000569

Kung ito po ay sa Senado, sasabihin po sa akin nung kabilang side na asked and answered.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000570

This was the same question I raised last year.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000571

And more or less, this is the same answer that I'm getting this year.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000572

Mr. Chair, just for the information, there were a lot of CBAs that were already resolved.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000573

Medyo dun lang po talaga sa mga CBAs that will affect the very operations of the electric cooperatives.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000574

NEA has been trying to find a way.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000575

On how to give in to the demands in the CBA.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000576

Mr. Chair, thank you.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000577

Again, I'll go back to my previous question.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000578

Will this illegal memorandum be rescinded?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000579

Eventually, sir, if we will be able to come up with resolutions through the Tripartite Council,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000580

it will be rescinded, sir.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-000581

Not only suspended.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000582

That was the answer last year.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000583

And it has been a year after.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000584

Kawawa naman po yung ating mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000585

Sana po sa susunod na budget hearing,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000586

hindi na po ito ating tanong kasi po na-rescind na ang Memorandum No. 2023-52.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000587

We will also forward a comprehensive list of the concerns for our colleagues from Power Centro.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000588

Ito po yung mga bayani natin sa power sector.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000589

At bigyan po natin sila ng tamang pagkilala.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000590

At bayan po natin yung mga gagawa na tinitiyak na may kuryenteng dumadaloy sa bawat tahanan po sa mga lugar sa Pilipinas.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000591

Maraming pong salamat, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-000592

And maraming salamat po sa DOE family.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000593

Thank you, Congressman Zendaya.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000594

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000595

Next to interpolate from the majority, Congressman Celso Rehensha.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000596

Sir, to recognize.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000597

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000598

I would like to raise this concern on Iligan City regarding the rising electricity costs and supply stability.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000599

Mr. Chair, Iligan's electricity charge increased from 13 pesos and 60 centavos per kilowatt

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000600

hour in July 2026 to 15 pesos and 13 centavos per kilowatt hour in August this year also,

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000601

an increase of 1 peso and 52 centavos, or an 11.19 percent in just one month.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000602

At this level, Iligan is among the higher rates charged by major distribution utilities in the country.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000603

For comparison, Mr. Chair, reported rates are approximately

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000604

14.96 pesos per kilowatt hour for BICO or Visayas Electric Cooperative and 14 pesos and 78 centavos for Meralco and 12.31 pesos for Cipalco.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000605

This is particularly concerning because Iligan, Mr. Chair, is the host of Agus 5, 6, and 7 with a combined dependable capacity of approximately 279 MW.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000613

Mr. Chair, with this, I would like to address my concern to the PISAM through the help of the Honorable Secretary.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000614

The following points. Number one, Mr. Chair, what was the basis for reducing the firm allocation serving Iligan to 8.75 MW, where the city's actual demand, supply needs, and the possible impact on consumers considered? Number two, can the PISAM consider providing an additional 16.25 MW of firm power, bringing the allocation serving Iligan City back to 25 MW, if feasible as an interim measure while longer-term supply alternatives are being pursued? Those are the two concerns, Mr. Chair. PISAM?

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-000615

Mr. Chair, regarding the first question on why there were reductions in our capacity allocations for certain cooperatives and distributed utilities, sir,

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-000616

we implemented a program in 2026, re-evaluation.

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-000617

We had to reduce the supply requirements because what we provide to our co-ops is based on the actual capacity of the power plants.

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-000618

And due to the reductions in the dependable capacity of Agus and Pulangi, we also had to correspondingly reduce.

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-000620

Our capacity allocations for co-ops to use, including illegal light and power.

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-000621

As to the second question, sir, if it's possible to increase the capacity allocation to illegal light and power, sir,

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-000622

as I committed to you earlier, sir, on our side meeting, sir, PISAM and our trading team will evaluate the request of illegal light

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-000623

and we will try to increase the firm and if not non-firm allocation to illegal light and power, sir.

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-000624

Thank you. Thank you very much, sir. And, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000625

Mr. Chair, we understand, Mr. Chair, that the PISAM has limited capacity and must follow its policies.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000626

We are not asking preferential treatment or special treatment.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000627

We are asking for assistance for our consumers, given illegal role as host to major national power assets.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000628

We respectfully seek a fair and practical solution that can provide greater supply,

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000629

stability, and more reasonable electricity costs.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000630

Mr. Chair, I also raise this because the issue may not be unique to Iligan.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000631

How firm power is allocated with the local demand and consumer impact are considered.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000632

Could affect other districts as well.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000633

We hope that Iligan's case can also help guide a fair approach for similarly situated communities.

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Rep. Celso G. Regencia

asr-000634

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's all.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000635

Thank you. Thank you, Kong.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000636

Next to interpolate, the idol of my mom and mine as well, Congressman Chaldokno.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000637

Marami salamat po, Chair. Magandang umaga po sa atin lahat.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000638

I'd like to address my first few questions, Mr. Chair, to Secretary Garin.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000639

My questions relate to Solar Philippines.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000640

Recently, may nakita po akong interview ninyo where nabanggit po,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000641

ninyo na ang amount ay na dapat ibabalik sa gobyerno ay umabot ng 24 billion pesos.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000642

Did I get that figure correct?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000643

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000644

Out of the 24 billion pesos, magkano na po ang nakuha o narecover ng ating pamahalaan?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000645

The 24 billion, Mr. Chair, is composed of different things.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000646

There was a payment of 80 million

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000647

million for training and development fee mr chair the others are for the penalties on

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000648

performance bond which is for the gaya projects mr chair which are not part of the payment

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000649

so how much of the 24 billion has been recovered ma'am

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000649-split-2

80 million

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000650

mr chair the the issue currently is in the hands of the department of justice and uh

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000651

uh and then the

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000652

offices

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000653

with the osg also mr chair and uh those they are handling the osg is handling the civil case

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000654

and the and the criminal cases with the doj mr chair um the purpose of these cases is also to

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000655

recover the 14 billion in expired bonds

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000655-split-2

yes mr chair

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000655-split-3

how about the has the doe taken any steps

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000656

to blacklist solar philippines

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000656-split-2

um mr chair uh current

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000657

uh

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000658

we have just recently issued a department because it's not in the any circular of the doe

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000659

uh on the uh the blacklisting or even suspension so now we have current we have recently i think

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000660

a month or two months ago we have recently issued a new circular on gencoris accountability which

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000661

gives them three strikes and we can blacklist them. And so,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000662

we have just recently issued the guidelines and now we're working

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000663

on it, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000665

Mr. Chair, may we request for a copy

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000666

of the guidelines?

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000667

At sana, inaasahan po natin na dapat nga ma-blacklist.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000668

Yes, kindly. You are directed to submit the guidelines.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000669

Thank you, Secretary.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000670

You will submit [unclear].

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000671

Mr. Chair, if I may address a few questions to the Chair of the ERC,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000672

Attorney Francis Juan.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000673

Good morning po.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000674

Familiar po

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000675

kayo sa

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000676

salitang

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000677

bill shock,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000678

I suppose?

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000679

Opo, yung biglang pagtaas nung singil.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000680

Ako, napakaraming mga kababayan natin ang nagiging biktima ng bill shock po tuwing natatanggap nila yung mga electric bills nila.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000681

At marami rin pong natuwa nung nagsalita si Pangulo na dapat nga tanggalin na yung system loss, pati yung 12% value-added tax na pinapataw po dito. May I know the position of the ERC? Kailangan niyo pa ba ng batas para maipatupad ito?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000682

Doon po sa pagtatanggal ng VAT on system loss, ito po ay tinatrabaho na ngayon ng ERC kasama ang BIR.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000683

Nagkaroon na nga po kami ng resolution, yung Resolution 26, Series of 2026, na kung saan aming kinlasipika ang system loss charge as a charge that is government mandated.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000684

Kaya maaari siyang mapabilang sana sa mga singil na

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000685

kapareha na government mandated tulad ng

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000686

lifeline subsidy with [unclear] allowance.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000687

Nang sa ganon, sila ay hindi na makasama sa VAT base.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000688

At ang atin naman pong aksyon ay pinag-usapan natin kasama ang BIR

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000689

at sila ngayon po ay bumabalangkas sa kanilang RMC nang sa ganon

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000690

ay maisakatuparan yung effectively ng pagtatanggal ng VAT on system loss

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000691

dahil yung system loss cost na ito ay hindi na mapasasama doon sa base na mapapatawan ng value-added tax.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000692

Pagdating naman po doon sa mismong system loss charge dahil po ito ay

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000693

nakabase doon sa cost recovery ng ating mga distribution utilities.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000694

tungkol sa system losses nila.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000695

Ito po ay sa kasalukuyan pinapayagan

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000696

subject doon sa CAP na itinakda ng komisyon.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000697

Kung magkakaroon po ng pagbabago sa batas

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000698

at ito po ay tuluyan ng ipatatanggal, maaari po itong magawa.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000699

Sa pamamagitan po ng umiiral na batas,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000700

maaari po naming maribisa yung CAPs,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000701

at kung ito ay maaaring maibaba na to the barest minimum,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000702

kakailanganin lang din po

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000703

ng koordinasyon at ito

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000704

naman po ay ginagawa natin

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000705

together with the Department of Energy at ng NEA.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000706

Nang sa ganon kung ang ating pong magiging aksyon

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000707

ay yung pagpapababa ng CAP para effectively ay matanggal

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000708

na rin yung system loss charge sa ating singilin.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000709

Ito naman po ay hindi makakaapekto doon sa ating mga distribution utilities,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000710

hindi papangit yung kanilang serbisyo sa kanilang mga consumers

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000711

at nang sa ganon ay mas [unclear] pa nila yung kanilang efficient operations.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000712

Kakailangan din na kumilos kami

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000713

pagdating doon sa pagtatakda ng kanilang angkop na singil

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000714

at sa pag-aapruba ng kanilang capital expenditure projects

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000715

nang sa ganon ay makapag-implementa sila

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000716

ng mga proyekto na makapagpapababa sa kanilang

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000717

system loss lalo na yung technical system loss po.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000718

Doon po,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000719

Mr. Chair, doon po sa 12%

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000720

na value-added tax na tatanggalin.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000721

When, kailangan

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000722

natin maasahan na mangyayari po yan.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000723

I understand, nagko-coordinate kayo sa BIR.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000724

When can consumers expect that

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000725

mararamdaman po nila ito?

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000726

Before that, can you explain lang kung ano yung tatanggalin doon

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000727

ng non-tech?

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000728

Lifeline rate?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000728-split-2

Sir, doon po sa system loss,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000729

ang pag-uusap po natin with the Department of Energy

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000730

and the other energy family.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000731

Ang tingnan po natin ay yung

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000732

klasifikasyon muna

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000733

ng system loss,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000734

mayroong technical,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000735

mayroong non-technical.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000736

Doon sa non-technical, tulad

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000737

ng pilferage, ito'y talagang malinaw

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000738

na bunga noong

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000739

man-made

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000740

na losses

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000741

pag nanakaw

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000742

or mga

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000743

defektibong metro. Ito po

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000744

ang nakikita natin maaaring

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000745

unahin

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000746

nang sa ganon magkaroon din ng

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000747

insentibo ang ating mga

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000748

distribution utilities na mas maging

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000749

mapagbantay

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000750

doon sa kanilang mga sistema

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000751

at nang mabawasan

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000752

yung incidents ng

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000753

pag nanakaw. Tungkol naman po

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000754

doon sa technical

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000755

system losses, ito

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000756

po kasi ay ma-address kung

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000757

magkakaroon po ng

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000758

upgrading sa mga pasilidad

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000759

ng ating mga distribution utilities

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000760

kaya't ang tinitingnan po

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000761

ay yung pag-utay-utay na pagpabababa

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000762

ng CAPS. Kasabay nito

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000763

ay yung pag-rollout ng ating

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000764

mga distribution utilities ng kanilang

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000765

mga programa at proyekto

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000766

na kakailangan din siyempre yung maponduhan

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000767

nang sa ganon ang kanilang

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000768

system loss performance

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000769

ay mas mapaganda.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000770

Tungkol naman po doon sa BIR

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000771

ngayon lang po ay nakita ko

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000772

yung post ng BIR na kanilang

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000773

sinusulat na yung kanilang RMC

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000774

at sinabi po ng BIR

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000775

na magiging efektibo ang kanilang

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000776

RMC

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000777

kasabay doon sa pagiging efektibo

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000778

ng aming

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000779

resolution na na-issue.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000780

Ang aming pong resolution ay

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000781

na-publish ngayong araw na ito

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000782

at after 15 days

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000783

maari na itong magiging

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000784

efektib. Kaya't

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000785

inaasahan po natin na

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000786

upon the 15th

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000787

day ay maglalabas naman po

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000788

ang BIR ng kanilang RMC.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000789

Depende na po kung ano po

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000790

ang magiging efektibity clause

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000791

nung kanilang resolusyon.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000792

Pagkatapos po noon ay

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000793

amin pong i-issuhan ng direktiba

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000794

ang ating mga distribution utilities

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000795

nang sa ganon ay baguhin nila

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000796

ang kanilang bill format

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000797

ng naaayon doon sa ipalalabas ng BIR.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000798

So maari po itong mangyari

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000799

sa Oktubre or Nobyembre

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000800

at ang implementasyon ito

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000801

ay susunod na. Dahil po

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000802

kakailangan ng baguhin ng ating mga

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000803

distribution utilities yung kanilang bill format

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000804

at yung kanilang mga sistema.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000805

Yung kanilang mga systems, mga software

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000806

na nag-i-issue ng mga bills

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000807

upang nang sa ganon masunod

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000808

yung kagustuhan ng BIR

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000809

na ang system loss ay mapabilang

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000810

doon sa mga singil na government

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000811

mandated. Nang sa ganon sila

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000812

ay nakagrupo in one at hindi

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000813

na sila malinaw na makakasama

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000814

doon sa ma-iimplementahan

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000815

ng value-added tax.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000816

Thank you for that.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000817

Just a few more questions, Mr. Chair, if I may.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000818

Yes, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000819

If you can...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000820

Sir Chair, I...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000821

Since we're talking about system loss

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000822

and I'm sure many of the

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000823

honorable members are interested,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000824

if we can just show the one

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000825

slide that we have.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000826

In system loss, it's not

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000827

as simple as

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000828

ERC saying...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000829

Ma'am, paanin ka na yung slide?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000830

Okay na?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000831

Pakiaayos lang yung slide.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000832

I think this is very interesting.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000833

Just to clarify.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000834

Yes, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000835

Ito kasi yan, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000836

You cannot just say,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000837

ERC, isiro mo na yan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000838

So we have to go on phases.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000839

Why? Because it takes

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000840

some work to get it lower.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000841

What is system loss? There's technical and non-technical.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000842

In fact, there are

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000843

non-technical na yung nakaw

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000844

or pilferage or yung nagja-jumper.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000845

And that is not just simply

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000846

saying, easy, wag mo i-charge yan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000847

There has to be some work

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000848

behind that.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000849

We have to do anti-pilferage

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000850

enforcement, consumer education,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000851

billing and collection efficiency,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000852

meter management.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000853

Kaya ayusin yung meter.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000854

Minsan, pag luma na, madali siyang

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000855

malagyan ng jumper or mababa siya.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000856

Consumer database cleansing.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000857

Kailangan ayusin ang efficiency

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000858

ng electric cooperatives.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000859

Institutional strengthening policy

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000860

and regulatory reform.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000861

So it will go on phases, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000862

This will take time.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000863

A lot of work for the electric

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000864

co-ops and also money.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000865

Because the lines have to be improved.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000866

Ang metro nila,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000867

kailangan ayusin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000868

So it will take time.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000869

It won't cost,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000870

don't worry, Mr. Che,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000871

we won't ask for additional funding for this.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000872

We'll figure it out.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000873

Pero just to show you how much it will cost

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000874

and it will go on phases.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000875

That's for non-technical.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000876

Now the technical is the more difficult part

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000877

which will really require

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000878

a lot of

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000879

evaluation,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000880

the part of the electric co-ops.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000881

Kasi evaluate nila yung mga linya nila,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000882

transformers nila, metro nila,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000883

lahat-lahat po.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000884

Ang sistema para may improve

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000885

yung flow ng electricity.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000886

So it's not just about

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000887

telling them,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000888

2% na lang kayo.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000889

We have to make them

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000890

evaluate it and set

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000891

an optimal design.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000892

So that will take them about 6 months.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000893

So it's the next page.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000894

If we go to the next page,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000895

that's the technical loss.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000896

So it will take the electric co-operatives

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000897

about 6 months to make that plan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000898

It's not very easy.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000899

Because it's an evaluation of the electric co-op.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000900

It's the whole system.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000901

6 months and then ERC will come in

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000902

and set the limitations.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000903

So marami pa pong kailangan nakikomponens yan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000904

So, and then

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000905

ERC can set the rates.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000906

We have to go in tandem.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000907

Kailangan yan,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000908

synchronized kami.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000909

Para hindi naman nabuburden at malulugi

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000910

yung EC or hindi nila ipapasa

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000911

sa mga consumers yung cost.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000912

It has to be done properly.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000913

But more or less stage 1, 2, 3,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000914

25%, less 25%,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000915

until 100% of the non-technical

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000916

is zero na.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000917

The technical loss,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000918

we can report to you

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000919

maybe the first half of next year.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-000920

Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000921

If I may add lang po, no.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000922

Yung sinasabi po ni Secretary,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000923

yung technical, non-technical,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000924

karamihan po kasi hindi rin naintindihan.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000925

And even sa DUs po,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000926

magkakaiba po yan.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000927

May private tayo

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000928

and may electric cooperative tayo.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000929

Ang electric cooperative is non-profit.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000930

So magkakaiba po yung treatment doon.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000931

Yung private po, may profit po yan.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000932

But the good thing is,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000933

there is a plan,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000934

there's a timetable,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000935

and we are going to do it.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000936

Thank you, Chair.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000937

Thank you, Secretary Sharon.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000938

Ilan na lang po yung tanong ko.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000939

Ito naman tungkol sa WESM.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000940

Meron din recently na naiulat

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000941

na mismo galing sa ERC

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000942

that there was a technical flaw

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000943

sa wholesale electricity spot market

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000944

pricing mechanism.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000945

Ang naging resulta po,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000946

ay sumobra ang nasingil

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000947

sa mga consumers natin,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000948

especially sa Visayas area.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000949

In fact, according to the reports,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000950

ang masakit pa nga dito ay

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000951

hindi nga yung refund ay hindi binalik

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000952

sa mga consumers

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000953

kung hindi binigay sa mga power companies.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000954

My first question is,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000955

sa ERC,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000956

magkano po ang eksaktong kabuhang

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000957

overcharge sa mga consumer,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000958

lalo na sa Visayas grid,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000959

mula nung June 2021,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-000960

dahil sa maling pricing model na ito ng WESM?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-000961

Chair Francis?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000962

Thank you, Mr. Chairperson.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000963

Ang nat-discovery po natin sa WESM,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000964

wala pong overcharging.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000965

Ibig sabihin po, tama yung mga inilalabas na

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000966

locational marginal prices

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000967

ng ating market management system.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000968

Within that market management system

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000969

ay yung tinatawag natin market optimization

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000970

model na kung saan dinidetermina niya

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000971

ang presyo ng bawat node sa ating kabuhang grid.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000972

At ito ang mga presyong gagabay ngayon

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000973

doon sa mga transaksyong nangyayari sa WESM.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000974

Tama po ang inilalabas na presyo.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000975

Pero po, ang nakita natin,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000976

sa tuwing nagkakaroon ng binding constraint,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000977

ibig sabihin, may congestion

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000995

doon sa interconnection na kumukonekta ng Visayas at Mindanao o kaya naman ng Luzon at Visayas,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000996

nagkakaroon ng biglang pagsipa doon sa line rental.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000997

At supposedly, kapagka nagkaroon naman ng pangungulekta ng line rental,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000998

ito ay mapapasama doon sa bayarin ng mga distribution utilities na bumili mula sa WESEM.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-000999

Pero kung yung amount na malilikom mula sa lahat ng mga customers o yung tinatawag nating trading amount ng mga customers

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001000

ay sosobra doon sa pangangailangan upang mabayaran.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001001

Yung trading amount naman, kabuoang trading amount ng para sa generators, magkakaroon ng surplus.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001002

At nandoon sa mekanismo ng WESEM, kapagka may surplus, dapat ito ay ibabalik.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001003

Doon sa mayroong kontribusyon dyan sa surplus na yan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001004

Bakit nagkakaroon ng surplus?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001005

Mari kong ipaliwanag lang po. Hopefully, maging mas simple.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001006

Ang ating pong locational marginal prices sa bawat node, ito po ay binubuo ng system marginal price o ito yung palang base price.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001007

At on top of the base price, ay mayroong cost.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001008

Mayroong cost of line losses at saka yung cost of congestion.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001009

Bakit magkakaroon ng line losses?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001010

Kasi mayroon ng inherent din na losses even sa ating transmission lines.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001011

Kaya kung halimbawa ang isang customer, mangangailangan ng 100 megawatt, pero mayroong 2% na nawawala sa linya,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001012

ang isang generator na magsusupply dito sa customer na ito, kakailanganin kung halimbawa 2%,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001013

kakailanganin na magsusupply hindi lang ng 100 megawatt, kailangan may sobra na 102 kung 2%.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001014

Dahil kung kailangan niya 100 at 100 lang ang isupply ng generator, ang mangyayari niyan, kulang.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001015

Kaya mayroong kailangan siyang 2 megawatt na additional na isusupply at yung 2 megawatt na yan, may kabayaran niyan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001016

Kaya ito ay nadadagdag doon sa locational marginal price.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001017

Ng node na ito, ito po ay yung isa pa lang na component, yung line loss.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001018

Pagdating naman sa congestion, kung ang isang node ay masusupplyan sana ng generator na nandito sa kabilang node,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001019

pero ang linya ay congested na, umabot na doon sa line limit na yan,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001020

ibig sabihin kahit pa ito sana ang pinakamurang generator, para masupplyan yung pangangailangan ng customer na ito,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001021

kailangan ng mayroong isang generator pa na nakakonekta sa kabilang linya na mag-generate kung anong megawatt yung hindi maitawid dito sa linya na ito.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001022

Ito naman po ang tinatawag na congestion cost.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001023

Ngayon po, kada node, iba-iba ang nagiging LMP.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001024

Nagkakaroon ng malaking pagkakaiba.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001025

Normally, maliit lang naman ang variance ng ating mga...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001026

LMPs.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001027

Pero ang napansin po namin, sa tuwing nagkakaroon ng binding constraint,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001028

kasi po, hindi naman lahat ng generation na kailangan ng Visayas ay nage-generate sa Visayas.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001029

Mayroon po siyang kinukuha mula sa Mindanao at ito ay dumadaloy doon sa interconnection ng Visayas at Mindanao.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001030

Ngayon po, may limitasyon ang pwedeng tumawid ng megawatts doon.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001031

Kaya sa tuwing ang pangangailangan ng Visayas ay napakalaki at hindi na ito kayang maitawid doon sa 450 na yan,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001032

ang yung ating market management system, yung MDOM na yan,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001033

ang ginawa niya, naglalabas siya ng magkaibang SMP or system marginal price.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001034

Iba ang system marginal price doon sa Mindanao, iba ang nagiging system marginal price sa Visayas.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001035

Mas mababa ang sa Mindanao.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001036

Kasi mas mababa yung marginal plant doon.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001037

Dito sa Visayas, mas mataas kasi nga, mas mahal yung planta, yung marginal plant na kakailanganin para masupply yung demand sa Visayas.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001038

Dahil nagkakaiba yung system marginal price, nagiging malaki ang difference ng kanilang LMP.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001039

Remember, ang SMP kung isa lang yan across all the nodes, maliit lang ang variance dahil manggagaling lang yan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001040

At saka sa congestion cost.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001041

Ngayong nagkaroon ng SMP na iba sa Mindanao, mas mababa at mas mataas doon sa SMP ng Visayas,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001042

yung mga distribution utilities natin, sila yung mga customers, halimbawa sila yung nakakonekta sa node sa Visayas.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001043

Kung meron silang kontrata sa isang generation company na nasa Mindanao,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001044

karaniwan sana mababa yung makukuha nilang kontrata.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001045

Kung meron silang kuryente, batay na rin doon sa kanilang kontrata with that generation company.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001046

Kaya lang, since hindi makapagpatawid ng kuryente yung galing Mindanao,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001047

yung pangangailangan ng distribution utility na yan sa Visayas ay manggagaling sa isang planta na mas mahal na manggagaling sa Visayas.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001048

Kaya, ang exposure niya nangyayari, meron siyang exposure sa WSM dahil in effect,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001049

meron siyang kuryente na yan sa Visayas at mas mahal ang LMP sa Visayas.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001050

Ngayon po, paano nagkakaroon ng spike sa line rental?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001051

Meron po kasing formularyo ang line rental at ito po ay nakadepende doon sa difference ng LMP ng seller o ng generator,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001052

yung nasa Mindanao, kasi kung ang generator ay nasa Mindanao, at yung LMP ng customer sa Visayas.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001053

Ang ito po ay malaki, malaki rin po ang nakakalculate na line rental.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001054

Pero, wala pong mali doon, wala pong overcharge doon.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001055

Ang nangyayari lang po sa ating price determination methodology na umiiral sa WSM,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001056

ang nakokolektang amount mula doon sa customer na nasa Visayas, dahil nakabasingado sa LMP niya sa Visayas,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001057

mas malaki yung trading amount.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001058

Ang nakokolekta from the customers dito sa Visayas, mas malaki kaysa doon sa dapat sanang ibayad sa mga generator.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001059

Dahil ang kanila namang nodal price, yung LMP nila ay nasa Mindanao.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001060

Ang pagbalansi sana yan, para mabawi nung na-expose sa mataas na line rental,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001061

kung magkakaroon ng mataas din na net settlement surplus, dapat ay ang distribution nito, ang allocation nito,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001062

yung formulari yung approved ng ERC, dapat ang allocation yan ay mas malaki doon sa mas malaki ang binayad dahil doon sa congestion.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001063

Ang nakita po nating diferensya, dahil nga po yung market management system, yung makina,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001064

ay naglabas ng presyo na malaki ang variance ng LMPs at nagkaroon ng dalawang SMP yung magkabila.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001065

Pagdating po, ipagkakaroon.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001066

Ipapasok ngayon itong data na ito, ipapasok po yan doon sa isang sistema pa na ginagamit ng ating market.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001067

Ito naman yung tinatawag na CRSS, yung Central Registration Settlement System.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001068

Dito po, papasok sana yung datos na yun galing sa MMS at dito sa CRSS, kukomputin niya rin niya automatically yung lalabas na net settlement allocation.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-001069

Kaya lang po.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-001070

Magalita, Mr. Chair. I understand the technical explanation but my question is very simple.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-001071

Paano niyo sisiguruduhin na hindi na po mauulit ito at paano rin may babalik yung dapat ibalik na refund?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001072

At sir, in layman's term, marami po kasing hindi, technically, hindi naiintindihan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001073

Naglabas po kami ng order noong August 13, 2026.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001074

Una ay interim.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001075

Muna yung pangungulekta ng line rental.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001076

Kung ano ang magiging shortfall doon sa trading amount ng mga generators, i-allocate siyang kolektahin mula doon sa mga customers.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001077

Second, ang longer term solution is gumawa ng isang sistema, ang IMOP, ang market operator,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001078

nagsaganon kung ano yung datos na papasok sa CRSS.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001079

Ito ay nakabatay na doon sa kung ano talaga dapat ang line loss at saka ang congestion cost.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001080

As if.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001081

Iisa lang yung naging SMP nila noong dalawang nodes para nagsaganon tama ang maging alokasyon.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001082

Ito po ang gagawin ngayon ng IMOP at yung mga nakaraang panahon na nagkaroon ng tingin namin ng hindi patas na pagbabalik noong net settlement surplus allocation.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001083

Ito po ay pinag-utos namin sa IMOP na ipa-audit sa isang third party.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001084

Nagsaganon makita natin yung extent kung merong dapat na mga distribution utilities, lalo na doon sa Visayas,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001085

na mas mataas ang kanilang naibayad na line rental pero maliit ang balik sa kanila, nagsaganon ay maibalik sa kanila yan.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-001086

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have no more questions.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-001087

May I just end by, first of all, kailangan na kailangan po dapat ma-report nyo sa amin ulit yung mangyayari dito sa WSM refund.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-001088

Asahan natin.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-001089

Ito ay aksyonan agad.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-001090

Pangalawa yung ating VAT, 12% VAT sa systems loss at yung mismong pagtanggal ng systems loss, we will eagerly await that as well as the blacklisting of the Solar Philippines and other actions to be taken para naman sa ating renewable energy.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-001091

Thank you so much, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001092

Thank you, Kong Chell.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001093

Actually, Chair, ERC, would you like to respond regarding the...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001094

target dun sa billing for the systems loss? Kung kailan yung target nyo?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001095

Ang target po natin is kung September malabas na yung sa BIR din at maging effective siya, lalabas naman po namin yung direktiba namin sa distribution utilities para baguhin yung kanilang bill format.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001096

May mga iba pa pong implementation issues na nakikita natin pagdating sa removal ng VAT.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001097

Dahil po...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001098

Ang system loss na ma-recover ng distribution utilities sa pamamagitan ng pagpataw ng kanilang system loss charge, ito ay malalaman lamang after the fact na after na makapag-bill na yung generator sa distribution utilities.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001099

So, atin na itong ni-raise as an issue sa BIR and hopefully ma-address ito ng BIR kasi ayaw naman din po natin na magkakaroon po ng sitwasyon na mapagbabayad muna yung...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001100

At tapos ay ma-re-refund o i-cocollectahin nila mula sa BIR.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001101

Ang nakikita po nating maaaring implementasyon nito ay kung ang mga distribution utilities,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001102

i-collect lang sila ng VAT corresponding doon sa kanilang energy purchases, katumbas doon sa makocollecta nila at yun ang i-re-remit nila.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001103

At to follow, kung ano yung magiging corresponding na system loss,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001104

na amount na hindi naman makakasama na at i-reconcile na lang after that month.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001105

So, ito po ay mga implementation issues and tayo naman po ay nakikipag-usap sa BIR.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001106

Nang sa ganon, ay maisagawa na itong pagtatanggal ng VAT sa lalong madaling panahon.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001107

Hopefully, after September, kung October, meron na po yan. At the earliest is November po ang implementation.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001108

Thank you, Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001109

So, dyan nyo po makikita na action man po.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001110

So, ito po ang ERC ngayon. That's why I'm very supportive doon sa dagdag nyong budget na 200 million.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001111

Ano, ang laki po ng binabantayan po nila, ang daming ginagawa, may systems loss pa, very highly technical.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001112

So, we need to support ERC. So, November, inaasahan po namin yun.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001113

Dahil 19th Congress pa, pinaglalaban na po yan ni Congressman Dagooc.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001114

Ngayon po, mangyayari na Congressman Dagooc yung ipinaglalaban natin noon pa.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001115

So, congratulations.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001116

So, next, to interpelate, ang pinakamagaling pong Congressman sa Camarineson, Congressman Nelson Negacion.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001117

You have the floor.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001118

Salamat po, Mr. Chairman. Magandang umaga po sa DOE family, headed by Secretary Sharon Garin.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001119

I will be talking about electric cooperatives, especially...

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001120

...its franchises.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001121

It is a matter of record and almost public knowledge na yung prangkesa ng mga electric cooperatives ay mag-e-expire na.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001122

Either this coming 2028 or 2029.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001123

Pero, syempre, exempted doon yung Casureco 4.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001124

Kasi yung Casureco 4, magaling po yung Congressman doon sa 4th District.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001125

As early as last Congress, nakapagpa-approve na po siya ng prangkesa for another 25 years.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001126

Kaya, mas magaling po talaga yun, si Congressman Arne Puentebella.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001127

Okay.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001128

My question can be answered by the Secretary herself, or if you want po, pwede niyo pong ipasa sa ating NEA Administrator.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001129

Would you agree with me that...

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001130

Would you agree with me that the grant of franchise by Congress is indispensable?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001130-split-2

Mr. Chair, if Admin Nani can answer.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001131

good good afternoon mr chair yes i would agree with the congressman ligation that the grant of

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001132

franchise is indispensable uh that would mean that without the the franchise electric cooperatives

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001133

or distribution utilities cannot do business it cannot operate it cannot distribute power

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001134

yes i agree uh mr chair

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001135

however there are extreme conditions or extreme situations that

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001136

uh electric cooperatives will not deserve i mean do not deserve any franchise renewal but on extreme

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001137

cases but on functioning on functioning electric cooperatives i believe uh it is very uh important

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001138

uh that uh congress supports the renewal of franchisor uh

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001139

Ah, pupunta po ako diyan mamaya, 'yon sa tinutukoy ninyong functioning electric cooperatives.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001140

Pero kaya po naitanong ko po ito kasi po may nagsasabi na hindi ganoon kahalaga yung pagpapa-approve ng prangkesa.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001141

Pero ngayon malinaw na kailangan po siya. Okay. Opo.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001142

okay now allow me mr chair to proceed to certain policy questions that

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001143

have both national and parochial importance my questions is for the benefit of not only myself

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001144

but also for the benefit of our citizens not as well-versed

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001145

in the power industry i am curious as to the kind of market we have in the philippines as to the

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001146

sector in our power industry now would you describe generation market as competitive or

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001147

monopoly including the transmission sector

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001148

uh personally uh mr chair uh i believe that was a subject matter of a pira and epira was

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001149

passed to make the uh generation market competitive so in so far as generation that

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001150

should be competitive meaning the the government will allow as many players as possible i believe

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001151

so mr chair what about transmission transmission is

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001152

under a franchise to uh granted to the national grid corporation of the philippines i think there

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001153

is only a sole operator for that okay what about distribution and this time we are talking about

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001154

electric cooperatives uh i believe uh mr chair is there is a franchise issued the the state should

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001155

take cognizance of that and that gives rise to the authority to the very existence of the electric

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001156

cooperative to conduct

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001157

the business of distribution meaning exclusive exclusive in the given area exclusive in other

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001158

words you are agreeing with the decision of the supreme court in milwaukee milwaukee industries

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001159

versus pampanga three electric cooperative where a doctrine was issued uh stating that

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001160

distribution utilities are granted exclusive franchise in area in given areas precisely because

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001161

of the youth's pre pre-operation cost of building lines substations and transformers now out of

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001162

curiosity uh madam secretary or uh mr administrator does the doe have a division or bureau conducting

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001163

feasibility studies concerning the entry of a new private distribution utility

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001164

local areas in the philippines and its economic impact

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001165

mr chair i think the power bureau of the doe

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001166

sir

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001167

please answer

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001168

yeah

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-001169

yes good morning

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-001170

there's a question um mr chair honorable member an obligation we have the electric power industry

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-001171

management bureau that monitors all uh the distribution all distribution utilities including

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-001172

electric cooperatives through the submissions of distribution development plan and power supply

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-001173

procurement program we do assessment of this electric cooperative based on the compliance thank

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001174

you your answer pertains to electric cooperatives my question is about private entity coming in in

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001175

a given territory do you have a bureau or is this part of the division or bureau that would be

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001176

conducting a an economic impact in so far as that new player is concerned as our monitoring

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-001177

your honor includes private distribution utilities but for new franchise holder or incoming franchise

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-001178

so we don't monitor normal assets okay

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001179

and power corporation with a paid up capital of only five million pesos

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001180

now my question should a private distribution company with a paid-up capital of only 5 million

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001181

be if

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001182

franchise assuming franchise will it be required to build its own distribution lines

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001183

substations and transformers from scratch or will its franchise application contemplate use of

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001184

interconnection with or acquisition of facilities of that electric cooperative in the area

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001185

mr chair the the franchise

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001186

is actually we don't assess uh uh we are don't have the power to to to say yes or no to a

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001187

franchise because it's given it's a power given by congress and congress normally reviews the money

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001188

uh they diligently the committee and franchise uh diligently ask for whatever supporting documents

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001189

that they need uh once it's granted then uh as long as they follow what the franchise mandates

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001190

them then uh the executive does not have any power to

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001191

question that but as a public utility sir um they do have if they are granted a franchise in such a

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001192

in the franchise area they do have the responsibility to deliver the public utility

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001193

service that they are required to so if that involves uh putting up their own infrastructure

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001194

whether it's stated in the franchise or not i think that they should do that sir okay thank

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001195

you madam secretary

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001196

To my last three concluding questions, Casoreco III, I am sure the NEA administrator is well aware,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001197

was an ailing cooperative since within the period 2013 to 2016.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001198

That is the reason why NEA intervened by establishing or by creating Task Force Rinconada.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001199

Right?

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001200

Yeah, 2017.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001201

Yeah.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001202

Okay.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001203

Now, since then, Casoreco III has improved.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001204

In fact, from 2021 and for five consecutive years up to the year 2025,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001205

Casoreco III had received the highest rating, which is AAA.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001206

For the last five consecutive years.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001207

And that is because of NEA intervention.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001208

That is why we are thankful to NEA, to Task Force Rinconada, because of your intervention from the lowest category.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001209

Now, it is AAA.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001210

That is the highest category.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001211

Mag-intervene po kayo.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001216

So, your debt was very high.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001217

It was over 1 billion.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001218

1.2 billion.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001219

1.2 billion.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001220

But now, it is small.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001221

It is only 600.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001222

It is small.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001223

And every month, it is paying.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001224

Oh, sorry, sir.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001225

From the 1.2 billion debt since 2013, it is only 120.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001226

That is the correct amount.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001227

120 million.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001228

Can I interject now?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001229

I think, even if they have a debt of 1.2 billion, it is only 100 million now.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001230

Right.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001231

They added three substations to address the brownout in the problem of the place.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001232

Yes.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001233

Is that correct?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001234

Yes.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001235

Can we continue?

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001236

Sure.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001237

My final question.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001238

Would you consider it fair to allow the entry of a new, unproven, and untested private distribution company

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001239

with a mere $5 million paid-up capital into the existing franchise area of a AAA electric cooperative

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001240

performing well under the NEA standards?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001241

Mr. Chair, if I may qualify.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001242

Yes.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001243

Just an opinion.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001244

NEA will always defer to the wisdom of Congress whether or not to grant a new franchise

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001245

in the future.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001246

Mr. Chair, I believe the

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001247

level of responsibility of the feels of this organization.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001248

Goodbye.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001249

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001250

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001251

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001252

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001253

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001254

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001255

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001256

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001257

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001258

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001259

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001260

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001261

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001262

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001263

Definitely, what Casoreco III needs is an infusion of fresh capital to improve the reliability.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001264

It is true that the operation of Casoreco III is not that exciting because it comes from poverty.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001265

They do not have a sustainable capex to fund.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001266

That is why we are doing our best and we are looking for a solution on how to cope with such a situation.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001267

Now, the question is, why is the debt so high?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001268

Based on our categorization rules, if a cooperative is in debt and it is being restructured and its restructured arrangement is being paid,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001269

we consider it as if it has no debt because it is being paid.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001270

The same thing is the case of Casoreco III.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001271

Yes, with the indulgence of Cong. Nelson Legacion, I was just confused.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001272

So, there was a debt of 1.2 billion in 2017.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001273

So, in the span of 6 years, 9 years, it became only 100 million.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001274

120 million.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001275

120 million. So, the improvement is really big.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001276

Well, aside from paying the debt, they are maintaining the...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001277

10 plus...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001278

10 plus operations, it is a big deal because we cannot give them a very good service if they come from poverty.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001279

Yes, so, it means that they have really improved.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001280

Yes, sir.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001281

That is why they have been AAA for the last 5 years.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001282

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001283

And if, this is theoretical only, if you are the chairman of the franchise committee, will you grant that electric cooperative, theoretical, if that is the case, to perform, will you grant the franchise?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001284

Definitely, sir.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001285

Because what effect will it have if you do not grant the franchise after 2029?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001286

It will be a pity for the member consumers.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001287

Will it have an effect if it will not operate? Will there be no electricity?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001288

Well, there is always the risk of a breakdown of the...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001289

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001290

So, you are saying if the franchise is not granted, after 2029, no one will operate, there will be no electricity there?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-001291

That is what will happen there.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001292

That is clear.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001293

Thank you, Cong. Nelson.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001294

Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001295

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001296

Thank you, Cong. Nelson.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001297

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001298

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001299

Thank you, Administrator Almeda.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001300

Thank you for telling us that you are not giving up on Casa Reko 3.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001301

And in fact, if you will have to decide, you will give this to the franchise.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001302

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001303

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001304

And if you decide to run for Congress, I will vote for you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001305

We'll make you the franchise committee chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001306

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001307

So...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001308

It is not a joke, no?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001309

Sa amin kasi, like electric cooperatives,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001310

in the indulgence of my colleagues,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001311

I'm very much supportive sa mga electric co-op

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001312

because it is service-oriented.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001313

Our area is rural pa po kami.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001314

Hindi pa po kami urbanized.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001315

So, kailangan pa po namin ng tulong ng gobyerno.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001316

There's seat for electrification, etc.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001317

Kung maganda naman yung performance,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001318

bakit hindi natin tulungan?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001319

And actually, it's beyond our district.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001320

But due diligence and proper courtesy

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001321

sa mga congressman po namin,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001322

nakasama,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001323

noong lumapit po sa amin ng Casareco 3,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001324

Casareco 2, Casareco 1,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001325

I told them first,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001326

lumapit kayo sa congressman nyo

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001327

kasi teritoryon nila yan.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001328

Pero kung twice or thrice na kayong hindi pinapansin,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001329

I think we need to intervene

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001330

because

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001331

hindi po dahil sa politika o ano man,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001332

it is an electric cooperative

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001333

that is service-oriented

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001334

na nagbibigay pong servisyo ng kuryente

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001335

sa ating pong mga kasama

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001336

hindi lang po sa kamarilis

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001337

o sa buong Pilipinas.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001338

That's why we are very passionate

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001339

lalo na pagdating sa electric cooperative.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001340

That's why I'm very supportive

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001341

sa leadership rin po

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001342

ni Admin Aneda.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001343

Idol ko po yan.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001344

Actually,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001345

I'm not sure

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001346

kung ano po yan.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001347

And alam ko po,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001348

hindi mo po bibitawan yan.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001349

Sana po,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001350

huwag ka lang po matakot

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001351

kung kanino man.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001352

Dahil alam ko,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001353

wala ka namang kinakatakutan

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001354

kundi asawa mo lang po.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001355

So,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001356

congratulations.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001357

That's it.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001358

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001359

Para maintindihan lang po,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001360

hindi po kami nakikialam

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001361

but we need to support

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001362

mga electric cooperative.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001363

Kasama po namin dyan

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001364

si Sergio Tagop,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001365

Congressman Presley,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001366

Congressman,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001367

Art, yeah, yeah.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001368

Congressman Art Yap

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001369

Kailangan po natin tulungan talaga

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001370

ang ating mga electric cooperative.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001371

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001372

Okay?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001373

So,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001374

why not?

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001375

Wala na?

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001376

Dagdagan mo pa.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001377

Balat pa.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001378

Hindi ka nakapagsilita last time.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001379

I still have,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001380

what, five minutes?

Source

Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001381

Wala na?

Source

Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001382

Wala na.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001383

At any rate,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001384

maraming salamat po,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001385

Secretary.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001386

And, of course,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001387

ni,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001388

na,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001389

I mean,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001390

Almeda.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001391

Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001392

And, to what?

Source

Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001393

Yung uminom usapan po natin,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001394

this applies,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001395

this is true,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001396

not only with respect to

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001397

Caso Record 3,

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001398

pero ano man na pag-usapan po natin

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001399

ay dapat mag-apply din

Source

Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001400

sa ibang mga electric cooperatives.

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Rep. Nelson S. Legacion

asr-001401

Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001402

Before I call on to the next interpeler,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001403

just one question lang po,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001404

kung Robert,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001405

if you'll allow me.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001406

Ma'am,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001407

pag may mga bago bang nag-apply

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001408

for mga franchise na

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001409

like others,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001410

sabihin natin na

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001411

hindi BQL Light and Power,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001412

Capitolio Light and Power,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001413

parang gano'n.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001414

Kailangan, di ba,

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001415

meron rin kayong titingnan nyo

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001416

kung fit ba sila

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001417

na magpatakbo ng

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001418

ng,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001419

I mean,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001420

ng distribution utility?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001421

Mr. Chair,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001422

normally,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001423

when it goes through

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001424

franchise,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001425

franchise utility,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001426

and then,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001427

the committee would ask us

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001428

for our opinion

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001429

on whether they should get

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001430

the franchise or not.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001431

I think you know naman

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001432

sa EO 3

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001433

kung gano'ng kalaki, no?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001434

With a paid-up capital

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001435

of 5 million,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001436

kaya po ba iyon?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001437

Patakbohin?

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001438

In your opinion?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001439

Mr. Chair,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001440

speaking...

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001441

It's ano po yun?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001442

Nani would know better,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001443

but for example,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001444

our co-op in Iloilo,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001445

like one,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001446

the asset is 1.5 billion

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001447

or something like that.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001448

So, 5 million.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001449

5 million is quite,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001450

ano,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001451

very modest.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001452

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001453

Dalawang transformer,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001454

kulang poste.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001455

Thank you, ma'am.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001456

Okay, sir.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001457

For our next interpilator,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001458

next, we have,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001459

oh,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001460

may idol,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001461

our batch,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001462

na tinungo,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001463

Congressman Robert Nazal.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001464

Sir, you recognize?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001465

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001466

Magandang hapon po

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001467

sa ating napakasipag na

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001468

sekretary,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001469

Secretary Sharon Garin,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001470

and good afternoon,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001471

to the DOE family.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001472

I will go right

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001473

to my questions.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001474

Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001475

may I ask the Secretary?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001476

Section 21 of

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001477

Republic Act No. 7638

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001478

already provides

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001479

that an amount

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001480

representing 20%

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001481

of the outstanding balance

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001482

of the PD No. 910

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001483

Special Fund

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001484

shall be disbursed

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001485

for expenses necessary

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001486

for DOE's powers

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001487

and functions.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001488

But I checked

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001489

the 2025 and 2026

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001490

GAAs.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001491

The 2025 GAA reflected

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001492

P896 million

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001493

from the same fund

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001494

while the 2026 GAA reflected

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001495

P1.3 billion.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001496

Neither GAA contained

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001497

the express 20% language

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001498

that is now proposed

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001499

for 2027.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001500

So, Madam Secretary,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001501

is the purpose

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001502

of expressly putting

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001503

the 20% authority

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001504

in the 2027

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001505

Special Provision

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001506

to make sure

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001507

that the DOE

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001508

can access

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001509

the earmarked funds

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001510

already provided to it

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001511

by law?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001512

How much is Malampaya?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001513

10 billion?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001514

The idea,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001515

Mr. Chair,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001516

the 20%,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001517

let's say,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001518

if we just base it

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001519

on Malampaya,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001520

Malampaya could range

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001521

from, I think,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001522

this year,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001523

about 10 billion.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001524

Next year,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001525

probably triple that

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001526

because of the new discovery.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001527

So, let's say 10 billion,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001528

20% of that

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001529

is 2 billion,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001530

2 billion, no?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001531

We never reached

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001532

the 20 billion,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001533

Mr. Chair.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001534

I'm not,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001535

we're not

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001536

complaining,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001537

but I think

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001538

the rationale behind that

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001539

is that

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001540

we are not

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001541

the only recipients

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001542

of the 20%.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001543

The calculation

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001544

includes that

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001545

or those

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001546

that are given

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001547

to our GOCCs

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001548

also, Mr. Chair.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001549

But, yes,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001550

we would appreciate

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001551

the 20%,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001552

but we make do,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001553

Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001554

Ano po bang

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001555

amount

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001556

ang ini-expect natin

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001557

if we base it

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001558

on the 20%?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001559

And what specific

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001560

programs,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001561

projects,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001562

and expenses

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001563

will DOE fund

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001564

from the 20%?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001565

There are,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001566

we always have,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001567

when you submit

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001568

the budget

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001569

to DBM,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001570

normally,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001571

there's tier 1

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001572

and tier 2.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001573

And our tier 1

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001574

is normally

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001575

the reasonable ones

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001576

that are granted,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001577

you know?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001578

But on the tier 2,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001579

we have other projects

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001580

that we wish

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001581

to present also,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001582

but like tulad

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001583

ng magpaayos

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001584

ng mga,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001585

we don't have

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001586

any regional offices,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001587

actually.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001588

We wish to

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001589

have green buildings,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001590

at least,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001591

maayos yung Mindanao

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001592

and Visayas namin

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001593

kasi there's more work

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001594

every year.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001595

Our automation,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001596

we need to improve

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001597

our automation,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001598

our program

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001599

for the grid

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001600

management committee,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001601

we wanted to help

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001602

with the,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001603

you know,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001604

with ERC also.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001605

Marami pong pwede

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001606

pang magawa.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001607

And also,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001608

the furtherance

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001609

of the technology

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001610

because there's

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001611

a lack of R&D

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001612

in the Philippines

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001613

as far as energy

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001614

is concerned.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001615

So,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001616

we have many

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001617

programs in place

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001618

na sinasuggest.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001619

The expectation

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001620

of that

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001621

is if it's

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001622

20 billion

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001623

si Malampaya,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001624

normally,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001625

that would be

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001626

4 billion,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001627

actually,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001628

Mr. Chair.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001629

We probably

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001630

get about

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001631

1 billion?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001632

Tama ba?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001633

I don't know

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001634

how much is per year?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001635

Mga 1 billion

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001636

siguro,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001637

Mr. Chair.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001638

10% lang

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001639

nakukuha na.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001640

So, more or less

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001641

10%.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001642

So, if ever,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001643

just in case

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001644

we reach the 20 billion,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001645

meron kayong

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001646

makukuha ang 4 billion.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001647

Yes, in fact,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001648

in fact,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001649

Mr. Chair,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001650

our projections

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001651

for Malampaya

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001652

in 2027,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001653

it will likely

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001654

reach the collection

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001655

of Malampaya alone,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001656

27 billion.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001657

And 20%

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001658

of that

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001659

is,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001660

5.4

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001661

billion.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001662

Thank you for that,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001663

Madam Secretary.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001664

Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001665

if the language

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001666

is intended

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001667

to ensure

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001668

that DOE

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001669

can actually

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001670

access funds

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001671

already earmarked

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001672

to it by law,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001673

then I fully

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001674

support this provision.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001675

Earmarked revenues

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001676

po,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001677

should not

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001678

simply accumulate

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001679

in Treasury

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001680

when agencies

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001681

have eligible

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001682

and implementable

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001683

programs

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001684

for which

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001685

Congress

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001686

intended the money.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001687

If putting this

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001688

language in the gaab,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001689

will help ensure

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001690

that legally earmarked funds

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001691

are released for lawful

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001692

DOE programs,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001693

then I am for it.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001694

But DOE should clearly

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001695

identify what will be funded

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001696

so Congress can ensure

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001697

that the money remains

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001698

within the purposes

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001699

allowed by law.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001700

Thank you for that,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001701

Madam Secretary.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001702

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001703

I appreciate it.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001704

Thank you.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001705

Mr. Chair,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001706

if DOE will now have

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001707

better access

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001708

to its earmarked funds,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001709

assuming po

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001710

makuha natin yung

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001711

4 billion,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001712

can we use

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001713

this opportunity

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001714

to finally accelerate

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001715

total electrification?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001716

As of August 31,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001717

2026 po,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001718

exactly how many

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001719

sitios and households

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001720

in the country

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001721

remain without

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001722

electricity?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001723

And how much

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001724

will it cost

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001725

to electrify

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001726

all of them?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001727

Yes,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001728

definitely.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001729

We have TEP,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001730

Total Electrification

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001731

Program,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001732

under DOE,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001733

aside from the

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001734

NAS budget,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001735

which stands

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001736

for the

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001737

total

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001738

electrification

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001739

of about

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001740

500 million.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001741

But if that

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001742

is increased to

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001743

2 billion or so,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001744

you,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001745

Secretary,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001746

can explain

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001747

what would the impact

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001748

of that?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001749

Sige po.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001750

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001751

Magandang hapon po

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001752

sa inyong lahat.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001753

Yung pong

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001754

current na

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001755

total electrification

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001756

program budget

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001757

namin ay

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001758

500 million

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001759

per year.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001760

Ang mga bahay po

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001761

na wala pang

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001762

kuryente ay

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001763

more than 2 million

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001764

households po

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001765

sa kasalukuyan.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001766

Yung

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001767

sumunod na po namin

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001768

kung magkano

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001769

yung kailangan

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001770

para magawa

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001771

lahat yan.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001772

100 billion pesos

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001773

po dapat.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001774

Kaso every year,

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001775

kunyari ang NEA,

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001776

dapat nabibigyan siya

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001777

ng 10 billion

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001778

a year.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001779

Ang nabibigay sa kanya

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001780

2 to 3 billion

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001781

lang magmula po

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001782

nung

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001783

2022.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001784

Kaya nga po,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001785

nung sana

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001786

2028 total

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001787

electrification

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001788

na po tayo,

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001789

sa computation

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001790

po namin,

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001791

2038 pa po

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001792

ang mangyayari

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001793

or 2043

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001794

hanggat hindi po

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001795

itinataas yung allocation

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001796

for electrification.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001797

So how much

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001798

do we need annually

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001799

po para matamaan

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001800

yung 2028

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001801

kung sakali?

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001802

Dapat po nung

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001803

nagkumpisa tayo

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001804

nung 2022,

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001805

dapat 8 to 10 billion

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001806

a year po ang binibigay

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001807

ng government.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001808

But we only get

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001809

about 2 to 3 billion

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-001810

per year.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001811

Eh dapat po talagang

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001812

supportahan yung

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001813

budget nyo.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001814

Hindi dapat binabawasin

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001815

i-increase pa

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001816

and you should

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001817

have access po

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001818

to your earmark funds.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001819

Salamat po

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001820

Mr. Chair.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001821

Going to the ERC,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001822

Mr. Chair,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001823

may I ask

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001824

the ERC?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001825

Under IPIRA rate,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001826

under IPIRA,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001827

rates are based

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001828

on the recovery

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001829

of prudent

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001830

and reasonable

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001831

economic costs

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001832

incurred.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001833

My question is

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001834

why are consumers

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001835

being made

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001836

to pay rates

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001837

based on projected

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001838

or future capital

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001839

investments

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001840

before those

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001841

investments

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001842

are actually

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001843

completed?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001844

Anyone from

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001845

DOE?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001847

from ERC?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001848

Nag-ano ba? Nag-break?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001849

As much as I'd like

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001850

to answer,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001851

I think the best

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001852

person to answer

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001853

is ERC.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001854

Maybe we can move

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001855

to the next question

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001856

muna and then

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-001857

we can come up.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001858

Most of my questions

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001859

are for ERC,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001860

Madam Secretary.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001861

Okay,

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001862

gonna have a few

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001863

minutes suspension.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001864

Bathroom break

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001865

muna tayo.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001867

This hearing,

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001868

this budget hearing

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001869

is now resumed.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001870

Kong Nasal?

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-001871

Congressman Nasal?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001872

I'll

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001873

repeat

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001874

my

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001875

question

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001876

for

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001877

the

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001878

ERC.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001879

Mr. Chair,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001882

so,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001883

ah,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001884

dito pala.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001885

Under

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001886

IPIRA,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001887

rates

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001888

are

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001889

and reasonable

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001890

economic costs

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001891

incurred.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001892

So,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001893

ang question ko po ay

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001894

why are consumers

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001895

being made

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001896

to pay

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001897

rates based

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001898

on projected

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001899

or future capital

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001900

investments

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001901

before those

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001902

investments

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001903

are actually completed?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001904

Thank you,

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001905

Mr. Chair.

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001906

Nasa section 43

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001907

rin po ng IPIRA

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001908

ng ERC

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001909

ay maaaring

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001910

gumamit

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001911

or mag-adapt

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001912

ng other

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001913

internationally

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001914

accepted

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001915

rate setting

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001916

performance-based

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001917

rate setting

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001918

methodologies.

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001919

At isa nga doon

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001920

sa naging

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001921

desisyon

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001922

nung naunang

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001923

komisyon

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001924

ay gamitin

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001925

itong provisyon

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001926

na ito

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001927

ng IPIRA

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001928

at mag-migrate,

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001929

mag-shift

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001930

ng mga

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001931

mga mga

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001932

ma- rotate

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001933

mas shift

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001934

from the

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001935

Royal Army

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001936

methodology

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001937

that was

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001938

previously

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001939

being employed

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001940

under

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001941

ERP

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001942

and

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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at the start

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001944

of the

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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IPIRA

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001946

implementation

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001947

in 2001

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001948

Hawk

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001949

po

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001950

nung-shift

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001951

sa performance-based

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001952

rake setting

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001953

methodology

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001954

as allowed

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001958

under Section 43 of EPIRA was made possible through the issuance of the RDWR and RTWR.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001959

Ano po itong performance-based and how does this consider yung recovery ng just and reasonable cost ng ating mga distribution utilities?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001960

Ito pong performance-based regulation ay isang forward-looking na methodology unlike RORB na nakabase sa historical cost or historical test here.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001961

Dahil po ito ay forward-looking, ito naman po may mga built-in na mga incentive mechanisms sa ganitong metodolohiya.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001962

Bakit po? Ang pag-determine na po ng revenue requirement under performance-based regulation,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001963

kapareho rin naman po ang component niyan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001964

Tulad nung sa revenue requirement ng RORB.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001965

Titingnan po yung kanilang OPEX.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001966

Ito po yung mga building blocks.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001967

OPEX, return on rate base, return off rate base, at saka yung other taxes.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001968

Yung pong pagtatakda ng revenue requirement using forecast.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001969

Ito po yung forecast na base doon sa efficient operating expenses,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001970

at saka yung rate base niya, yung nakalipas na ng mga na-procure niya na assets,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001971

and at the same time, yung mga ipoprocure pa niya through CAPEX during the regulatory period of either 4 years or 5 years in the case of NGCP.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001972

For distribution utilities, ang nangyayari po during a rate reset exercise,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001973

ay tinitingnan po yung nararapat na OPEX.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001974

At saka kung ano yung magiging value na gagamitin para sa regulatory asset base, yung regulated entity.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001975

Ito pong regulatory asset base will consist of yung roll forward na assets.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001976

Ito po yung nanggaling na yung dati pang mga assets na i-roll forward.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001977

Kasama na rin po dito yung mga CAPEX and other assets na na-procure prior to the rate reset.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001978

Pagkatapos po noon,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001979

ay de-determine na kung ano yung magiging value ng return on rate base at saka return off rate base.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001980

Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001981

bakit po mag...

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001982

Ilan pong countries ang gumagamit pa nung ganyang sistema?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001983

Sa bilang po, wala po akong isaktong datos.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001984

Pero po, ang sapagkakalam ko, nung ito po ay inaaral,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001985

ang mga ibang jurisdiction na gumagamit nito will include...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001986

UK, Australia, New Zealand.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001987

So dito nga po talaga nakapattern yung ating PBR.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001988

Kailan po ba nagbago yung from RORB?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001989

Kasi ang kaya ko po tinatanong, hindi po ba dapat yung utility, lalo na pag private,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001990

dapat sila ang nagpo-put up ng capital at saka yung investment bago nila i-recover sa mga consumers?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001991

Opo, tama po yan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001992

Kaya nga din po, sa ating PBR ngayon,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001993

ang kanila pong CAPEX,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001994

pag na ito ay napasama doon sa kanilang rate reset na aprobahan,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001995

yung pong kanilang return,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001996

yung kanilang recovery,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001997

hindi po nakabatay doon sa kabuang halaga nung CAPEX na yan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001998

Ito pong kanilang ika-CAPEX na,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-001999

magpo-procure sila ng linya o ng transformer,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002000

yung pong halaga na yun, kung papasok yan doon sa regulatory period na yan in the form of CAPEX,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002001

maitatayo yan, ang kikitain lang po noon,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002002

hindi po yung makukolekta po as part of the revenue requirement,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002003

is not the entire value of that CAPEX,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002004

but it will be the value of that asset at yung return yan will depend on the WAC that will be approved

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002005

o yung weighted average cost of capital para doon sa return on rate base

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002006

at saka yung kaukulang.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002007

At yung depreciation na yan, recoverable yan over the life of the asset.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002008

Paano kung mangyayari if the project is delayed or hindi nagawa?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002009

Meron na po bang sitwasyon na nakasingil based dito sa current na sistema,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002010

tapos na-delay o hindi nagawa yung project?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002011

Dito po pumapasok yung kahalagahan ng rate reset exercise.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002012

After every regulatory period of 4 years or 5 years,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002013

pinakailangan on the final year, magkakaroon ng rate reset.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002014

Ano po yung purpose ng rate reset na yan?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002015

Para magkwentahan, magkakaroon ng kwentas-klaras,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002016

ikaw ba utility, nagawa mo ba yung CAPEX mo?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002017

E meron lang doon sa iyong taripa, nakasama doon yung return on at saka return off.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002018

Kung hindi mo nagawa yan, dito po sa susunod na rate reset,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002019

yan po ngayon ipo-flowback.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002020

Mangyayari po, meron kang CAPEX na delay ka,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002021

o hindi mo nagawa, dito sa susunod na rate reset,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002022

ito ay ibabawa sa inyong revenue requirement.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002023

Meron ka pang penalty, meron ka pang interest na dapat bayaran doon.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002024

Ito lang po ang hindi nangyari dahil sa loob ng mahigit isang dekada,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002025

ang ERC noon, hindi nakapag-reset ng taripa ng ating mga private distribution utilities.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002026

At ngayong taon lang po natin ito sinasagawa,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002027

at nagkaroon na nga po ang pagdedesisyon ng ERC,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002028

sa loob ng mahigit isang dekada,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002029

una-unahang rate reset sa isang ating private distribution utilities.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002030

So, Mr. Chair, marami po tayong nakita na mga ganong sitwasyon

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002031

na nasinil na po sa consumers yung CAPEX para doon sa proyekto.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002032

Pero hindi po tayo nakapag-rate reset. Tama po ba?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002033

Ang nangyari po, dahil nga po,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002034

ngayong taon lang talaga nagsimula ulit ang rate reset ng ating mga private distribution utilities,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002035

ngayon lang din po natin tinitingnan,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002036

dahil in between,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002037

nagkaroon din po sila ng mga CAPEX filings.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002038

Kasi supposedly, sa rate reset magkakaroon ng approval ng CAPEX program

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002039

ng ating regulated entity.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002040

Dahil nga po naantala yung rate reset,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002041

itong mga distribution utilities na kakailangan ng mag-implement ng CAPEX,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002042

nagsipag-file sila ng kanilang mga individual CAPEX filings.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002043

At kung na-approbahan at isinagawa nila yung CAPEX project na yan,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002044

sila'y gumastos na, pero hindi sila nagkaroon ng rate adjustment.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002045

Dahil nga, walang rate reset na nangyari.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002046

So ngayong pong taon na ito,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002047

dito sa ating rate reset exercise na ginagawa para sa ating mga private distribution utilities,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002048

ating itinatama yung lahat ng nangyaring walang aksyon,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002049

kawalang aksyon,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002050

noong mahigit isang dekada,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002051

ngayon po ay itinatama natin.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002052

Nagsaganon, ay makasiguro tayo na yung magiging singil ng ating mga distribution utilities

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002053

ay nararapat lang sa kanilang kaukalong gastos

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002054

at kung alo lamang,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002055

yung reasonable.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002056

Mr. Chair,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002057

Thank you.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002058

Sa rate reset po ba?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002059

Last answer for the last question.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002060

Tumakbo yata yung oras ko kanina, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002061

I'll give you another one.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002062

Go ahead.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002063

Just a short question.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002064

Sa rate reset po ba, Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002065

kung nasingil po natin sa consumers yan,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002066

doon sa rate reset,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002067

ibabalik po ba with interest yan?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002068

Ang mangyayari po,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002069

dahil po ito ay ipo-flow back,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002070

doon po sa revenue requirement na itatakda para sa susunod na

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002071

regulatory period,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002072

ibabawas na yan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002073

So, in effect, ibinabalik na din yan

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-002074

doon sa susunod na regulatory period po.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002075

So, ibabalik din yan sa consumers with interest.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002076

Doon sa ating...

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002077

Just a short manifestation.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002078

So, Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002079

for me, investments are a business risk.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002080

Consumers should pay a fair and reasonable

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002081

return for investments

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002082

actually made and useful to them.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002083

But we should seriously examine

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002084

why consumers should be financing projects

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002085

or financing projected investments in advance.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002086

If consumers are paying for these investments,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002087

there must be an independent and transparent mechanism

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002088

to verify that every peso charged

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002089

was actually invested and benefited the consumer.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002090

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002091

Thank you. And I totally agree with you,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002092

Congressman Nazal. Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002093

So, next interpulate is Congressman Leo Rodriguez.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002094

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002095

Thank you, Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002096

to the DOE family.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002097

May God bless you all.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002098

First of all,

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asr-002099

I would like to thank

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002100

the DOE through our

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002101

leadership of our Secretary

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002102

and Secretary Sharon Garin.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002103

Of course, the IRC,

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asr-002104

and of course, Dania and PNUC

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002105

for the quick response

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002106

to the problems

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002107

faced by the communities

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002108

in the past few months.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002109

Thank you.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002110

So, for now,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002111

we have a new problem.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002112

Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002113

the current price is still high

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002114

for us, especially

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002115

for these islands

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002116

and off-grid areas

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002117

like Catanduanes.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002118

For now,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002119

the residential rate

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002120

for July is

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002121

19.30 kilowatts

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002122

compared to

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002123

the

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002124

current price

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002125

here in Metro Manila

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002126

which is 14 kilowatts.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002127

And even for mainland vehicles,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002128

they are still tracing.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002129

So, now,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002130

the Emergency Power Supply Agreement

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002131

or IPSA 2

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002132

with Isla Dagyab

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002133

while waiting for the

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002134

long-term supply

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002135

through CSP,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002136

my concern is not

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002137

to fix the generation cost

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002138

and it still depends

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002139

on the diesel prices.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002140

Demand and actual generation

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002141

that's why consumers

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002142

are directly affected

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002143

by increasing

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002144

electricity rates

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002145

when fuel prices

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002146

go up.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002147

So, my only question

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002148

to our good Secretary,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002149

Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002150

while we are still

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002151

in Catanduanes,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002152

can we give temporary

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002153

subsidy for generation cost

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002154

under PSILCO,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002155

Isla Dagya IPSA 2

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002156

to reduce the

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002157

electricity rate

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002158

for our consumers?

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002159

Because the current

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002160

is too high

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002161

for our

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002162

countrymen there.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002163

Instead of eating it,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002164

they should eat it

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002165

to pay for the current.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002166

Can you support this

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002167

and help identify

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002168

and facilitate

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002169

the appropriate funding

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002170

and regulatory mechanism

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002171

with the concerned agencies?

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002172

Mr. Chair?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002173

Mr. Chair,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002174

unfortunately,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002175

we cannot commit

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002176

to support the subsidy

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002177

because we are not allowed

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002178

to do that, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002179

But on the other hand,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002180

I'll pass it to President

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002181

the DOE will

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002182

do a task force

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002183

in the

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002184

in your province, sir,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002185

so that we can assess the performance

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002186

of your electric co-op and

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002187

assess more on what kind of

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002188

because if we only use diesel,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002189

if there is a flood,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002190

it will not deliver.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002191

If the price goes up,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002192

of course, there is a direct correlation

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002193

on the price of fuel and the price of electricity

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002194

in your province.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002195

So, we'll work with

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002196

NAPOCOR on that.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002197

We'll send,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002198

we'll have a team of

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002199

Mario Maracigan

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002200

reassess the island.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002201

The main cost

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002202

of the increase

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002203

of electricity there

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002204

is really the oil crisis

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002205

in the Middle East.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002206

But that's the lesson

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002207

that we should not be dependent

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002208

on diesel in the end.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002209

So, we'll do the long-term solutions, sir,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002210

and I think President Coco

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002211

can expand.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002212

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002213

Because for now,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002214

you know, diesel is the only

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002215

hope.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002216

Because our hydro is not operating

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002217

because of the sea,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002218

it's really dry.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002219

We don't have water.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002220

That's our problem.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002221

So, we're asking for

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002222

a quick solution here

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002223

so that we won't suffer

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002224

such a high rate.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002225

President Coco,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002226

you want to answer?

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002227

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you,

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002228

Honorable Congressman,

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002229

to the Honorable Gentleman from Catanduanes.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002230

It's a privilege

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002231

of NAPOCOR

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002232

to help Catanduanes

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002233

in the past few months.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002234

And I assure

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002235

the people of Catanduanes

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002236

that NAPOCOR will open

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002237

to helping and assisting

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002238

FISELCO

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002239

in their upcoming application

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002240

for the subsidized rate

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002241

so that it won't be

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002242

that big.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002243

It just needs to go through

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002244

the process and NAPOCOR

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002245

has already talked to FISELCO

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002246

because there are many Catanduanes

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002247

who are working at NAPOCOR

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002248

and every day,

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002249

I'm being scolded by my

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002250

managers and senior managers.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002251

So, I want to give

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002252

the assurance, both personal and professional,

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002253

that NAPOCOR is

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002254

working closely with FISELCO

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002255

so that they can submit

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002256

the proper application

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002257

because according to the

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002258

directives of DOE,

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002259

they seem qualified

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002260

but they need to go through

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002261

the process.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002262

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002263

I'm a little happy

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002264

with the answer of our

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002265

good President of NAPOCOR,

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002266

our

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002267

former colleague.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002280

So tama po ba na kasama na sa Transmission Development Plan ang Kamarinesor Katanduanes Interconnection Project na magkukunikta sa Katanduanes sa Luzon Grid through a Submarine Cable?

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002281

Ano po ang inisyal na work na magagawa ng project particularly on the regulatory approval, engineering surveys and right-of-way and other preparatory works?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002282

Mr. Chair, yes, that's the best, the long-term solution talaga. Pa-connect na kayo. I'll pass it to Press Jomar of the Transco on the connection of the schedule.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002283

Yes, sir.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002284

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, we can confirm that the connection of Katanduanes is now in the TDP of NGCP. We are also looking at it, how we can prioritize that particular project since I think 2018.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002285

So, yata ito nire-request ng FISELCO. One update also for FISELCO, Transco will now be implementing system operations in your island and hopefully we can also help in your system reliability and maybe reduce some costs also. So, that's our update for you, Mr. Gong.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002286

Great.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002286-split-2

Thank you. Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002287

Can I interject lang? Ano yung pinakamalapit na pwede mag-submarine cable sa patang Katanduanes?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002288

I'll give you the answer.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002289

Sir, sir. Caramoan. Distrito ko po yun.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002290

In the TDP, I believe it's presentation.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002291

Yeah. From Karamuan, malapit na lang po kami doon. Actually, meron pong feasibility study na nakuha na kami na gagawa po ng tulay from Karamuan connecting Katanduanes.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002292

And kinausap ko na po yung DPWH, yung ilalim nun. Pwede po tayo maglagay doon ng linya na. So, para hindi na submarine cable, mas mahal po yun.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002293

So, yung design na pinapagawa po namin is for the maintenance. It's a long-term plan, no? So, it's one option. I'm just telling you na yung pinakamalapit.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002294

We'll take a look at that, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002295

Mr. Chair, in addition to the schedule of the TDP, Transmission Development Plan of the NGCP, DOE also has issued a circular allowing third-party,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002296

allowing third-party,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002297

construction. But we have to work closely with NGCP on this. Transcos already identified three projects that they will embark on with the permission or the agreement to NGCP also with DOE.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002298

We'll try as much as possible makuha yung approval for, para ma-advance po, na transco na yung magpapatayo. We'll work hard on that, sir.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002299

Dalawang beses na ako bumalik din dahil sa problema dyan.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002300

Maybe we can find a long-term solution, sir.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002301

Thank you.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002302

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Madam Secretary. Alam ko naman na hindi nyo paubayan ng katanduhan. Sabi nga, pabalik-balik ka na nga roon.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002303

Yun talagang problema namin. I hope itong aming tulungan ni Kung Fuente Villa na yung sa aming Princip Bridge na talagang pangarap din naman namin yun magkaroon na may tawid.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002304

So, malay mo kung sino lang pumaw na.

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Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez

asr-002305

Salamat po, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002306

Thank you, Mr. Kong Leo.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002307

Basta pag nagsalita si Kong Sharon, Kong Lagrales, maniwala po tayo.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002308

Pero before I call the next interpreter, kung pwede pong magtanong rin kayo sa PNOC, pwede rin pong magsumagot.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002309

So, next interpreter, we have Congressman Presley Dessus.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002310

Sinabi mo magtatanong ako, so magtatanong na ako.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002311

No, in fairness, no.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002312

Two points muna. Una, I'm very grateful, Congressman Dagoque, and I am grateful to Chairman Alvarez and Sen. Erwin Tupo.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002313

Finally, nasa Senate na at madidiscuss na September 10 yung Lineman Workers Appreciation Day.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002314

So, maganda yan kasi we recognize them.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002315

As you know, nauubos na yung mga lineman natin. Nagpupunta namin ng New Zealand at Australia.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002316

So, yesterday also, kinausap namin ng TESDA.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002317

Para tuloy-tuloy na rin yung kanilang training.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002318

Secondly, in fairness to Chairman ng Committee on Legislative Franchise,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002319

basta't meron nagpasa ng mga ganyang prangkisa at may opposition, we give them time.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002320

But he promised next time, naprubaan din yan. Just like the other electric cooperatives.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002321

Mr. Chair? Mr. Chair?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002322

Wala pa akong tanong sa 'yo?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002323

I just wanted to intervene, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002324

Yes, yes.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002325

For us, in the Department of Energy

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002326

And I think especially for NEA, we don't need a special day for linemen.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002327

Every day is a day for linemen, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002328

Because not only do they build our infrastructure, but they are the first to go whenever there's a disaster.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002329

Mga volunteers yan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002330

They don't have anywhere to sleep.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002331

They just follow where the broken poles are.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002332

Mga volunteer po yan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002333

Pinapakain lang ng mayor.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002334

But I think they really need commendation in that sense.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002335

Because they are really the heroes of the energy family, sir.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002336

Well noted.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002337

Thank you, Chairman.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002338

And of course, to Secretary.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002339

Again, to Secretary, when Kong Percy said a while ago, he asked you personally kung paano baaba ang kuryente.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002340

And you said, there's a formula.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002341

Siguro, nung 18 Congress kami, yan na inaan namin talaga hindi bumaba ba.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002342

Aside from the inflation rate.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002343

So, siguro this time, yun nga, yung system loss natin.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002344

Tanong ko, is it time ng generation, the gencos, should be regulated na?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002345

Although we know in EPIRA, hindi.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002346

Pero, it's high time, is it?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002347

Mr. Chair, I do not think that we need to regulate.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002348

But we need to have safeguards, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002349

For example, once you have a COC, you have the permit, you have the permit forever.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002350

Regardless of your performance.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002351

And that's why we are issuing new policies now to have more accountability for the gencos.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002352

Kasi minsan, nakalista yan sa profile natin, sa energy mix natin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002353

Pero, mga four months a year lang pala siya nandun.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002354

And there has to be accountability.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002355

Dapat siya nagahanap ng replacement power.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002356

So, there are things that have been missing over the years.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002357

And we...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002358

We need to be more strict in a sense that they have to comply with whatever is required by EPIRA,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002359

whatever is required by ERC, and the PSA or the contract they entered.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002360

So, papunta na kami dyan, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002361

And I think if we do regulate, we might dislodge the investment appetite in that sense.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002362

Pero, kailangan talaga medyo may mga regulator.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002363

Sorry, powers tayo.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002364

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002365

Of course, when Congressman Jokno asked about this solar para sa bayan,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002366

noong 18th Congress, di pa kami congressman ni Kogdagi.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002367

Kami ang nagra-rally na huwag pagbigyan yan.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002368

Kasi alam namin mangyayari.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002369

Look what happened to Occidental Mindoro.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002370

Kawain lang nilagay nilang poste.

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002371

So, when you said, you know, balitan-balitan, 24 billion nilang ano.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002372

I think hindi yun ang problem.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002373

Ang problema dun, did they deliver what is stated in their service contract na magdi-deliver siya ng supply?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002374

You're correct, Mr. Chair, in a sense that because of, how many megawatts yun?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002375

These are about 33 contracts.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002376

Most of it under GAYA.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002377

And had those, it's about 1.3 gigawatts.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002378

Had those 1.3 gigawatts been delivered,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002379

according to our simulation, there would have been a decrease in the price, about 2 pesos ba?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002380

1 peso.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002381

1 peso at the very least on the generation rate natin, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002382

So, that's, it's not the penalty itself, but it's the cost to our consumers na nangyari.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002383

See, that's the problem, Chairman, because you gave the service contract.

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002384

So, walang pwedeng umago dun until such time na mag-deliver sila ng ano.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002385

So, do you see?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002386

In the foreseeable future, magkakaroon kayo ng cancellation of service contracts na hindi pa na-umpisan?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002387

Mr. Chair, all the contracts we are being reviewed, we're cleaning it up.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002388

We have cancelled so far about 100 plus, 200 contracts already.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002389

That's for the service contracts on renewable energy.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002390

Yung hindi gumagalaw, yung wall, late na siya, or wala siyang, ano tawag dito?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002391

Hindi siya may-aral.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002392

Hindi siya may-aral ng lote.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002393

Wala siyang tenorial, ano?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002394

Posesory, right.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002395

So, we're cancelling, starting to cancel that.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002396

And then, on the, and then next is we issue the GENCO accountability na kailangan may warning naman.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002397

Pag hindi ka mag-comply ng requirements ng DOE or ERC, strike 1 ka.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002398

Next strike, up to strike 3 ka, we can cancel the COE or blacklist you.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002399

So, we are trying to have more discipline.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002400

In the generation companies, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002401

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002402

So, maybe in the second round.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002403

Sa ERC, kay Commissioner, no?

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002404

As you know, balitang-balita sa besides, you mentioned it's also a while ago na yellow-red alert na naman tayo.

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002405

So, what happened sa mga plantang sarado doon?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002406

And how many of them?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002407

Yan siya.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002408

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002409

If our director for...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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Ano?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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ERC?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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Ang mga naka-outage po sa Visayas lalo na would include the Therma Visayas at yung PEDC.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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But, nag-announce naman ang TVI na it will be resuming operations September 15 at yung Unit 2 na-restore noong August 31.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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So, bukod dito, may mga naka-outage pa ring mga ibang maliliit na planta and tuloy-tuloy.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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And we will check on the status po of these plants.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Alam mo kung ilang planta and how many megawatts na hindi sila nakapag-deliver?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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A big thing.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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Let me see.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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Yung each unit of TVI is 176.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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So, dalawa sila.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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Kaya, nung ngayong naka-outage sila, medyo malaki talaga yung nawawala sa available supplies sa Visayas lalo na.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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That's why we are seeing the yellow...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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red alerts in the region.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Alam mo, dito tayo naintindihan natin line rental eh.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002425

Can you explain yung layman's term?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002426

You suspended August 16 yung line rental, di ba?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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Yes po, Mr. Chair.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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During periods where the interconnection is congested, Visayas and Mindanao,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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dahil doon natin nakikita nagkakaroon ng spike sa line rental,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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we asked IMOP to suspend the calculation and collection of the line rental

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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and then just collect the necessary amounts from the customers

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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para mabayaran yung mga generators.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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But as a long-term solution, there is something to be done doon sa data

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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that will be inputted in the CRSS so that the correct allocation of NSS surplus

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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to the customers will be done.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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And we also ask IMOP to recalculate, to cost the audit through a third party

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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of the payments or the NSS allocations made over the period from 2021

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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so that we can determine if there will be a need to order some refunds

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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in favor of...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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some distribution utilities who should have received a higher percentage

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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or higher allocation of the NSS.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002442

Thank you.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002443

I'll just come back with you.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002444

Again, to Secretary, you know the ER-194 natin, di ba?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002445

You know how much you have right now?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Kung kano?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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It's one centavo per...

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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I know.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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How much in total?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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In totality?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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Nangyayari kasi, Chair, it's directly remitted.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Pwede.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002453

So hindi na kami humahawak ng pera.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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We just issued a...

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002455

Wala sa inyo yung...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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Wala sa amin yung pera.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002457

Kansi kanina, pupunta nga inyo.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002458

Nag-i-diretso sa...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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Host communities.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002460

Host communities, yes.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002461

So, but before the pandemic,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002462

I think sa policy nyo, si kayo pa rin na tumatanggap.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Because the host community, meron din silang percentage

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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and then binibigyan sila.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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So I think it's under DOE pa rin yung pera.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002467

I'll have Yusek Mario answer this, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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Yusek Mario.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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Thank you very much also to our beloved congressman.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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We do audit the releases

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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because these are directly remitted

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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benefits to host communities.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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And based on the...

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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Based on the audit and monitoring records of our auditing unit,

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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as of June 20, 2026,

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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we have remitted for Northern Luzon

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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1.8 billion.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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That's the total.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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total, with electrification at 762 million, development fund at 524 million, and watershed

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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rural health at 526 million.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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For the national capital region, we have 8 million total benefits, with electrification

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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at 4.5 million, 2 million for DLF, and for water management at almost 2 million.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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So we have the record here based only on audits.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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So these are post-remittance.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002487

Can you submit that to this committee, please?

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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Yes, we will, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

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Yes, we will, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002491

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002492

Tama yan kasi importante ito eh.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002493

Dapat talaga nakikinabang dito yung rural areas.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002494

So, [unclear] pala kayo sa NCR?

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-002499

Yes, our new guidelines on the benefits for host communities includes urban cities. So, it's not only NCR but also those that are urbanized cities.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002501

Balik na lang ako.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002502

And then to, of course, sa TransCo, no?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Kay Atty. Mr. President, yung right of way natin, ilan pa bang hindi n'yo hanggang ngayon pending pa rin na hindi n'yo nababayaran?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002504

Kasi moving forward, since NGCP sila na ang magbabayad, 'di ba?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002505

Yung sa inyo pang pending, ilan pa 'yun?

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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Roughly around 160,000 claims pa po 'yun.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002507

160,000 claims?

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002508

Yes.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002509

Tapos kapag may naniningil, si PSALM, [unclear] kayong pera, 'di ba?

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002510

Most of our concession fees go to the payment of this right of way.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002511

So, how come hanggang ngayon hindi na-resolve yung kaso niyan? Napakarami.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002512

Opo. Well, different reasons. Difficulty of settling the claims.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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Marami po, siyempre, mas gusto mas mataas ang compensation.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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And then, of course, the process in court.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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However, we have a program now that we will begin.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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I-outsource po namin nationwide yung ROW settlement.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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We have a target to clean out all of these claims

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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by 2034 before the concession agreement with the NGCP ends.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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So, we begin with a 50,000-claim target in two years po

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002520

with this nationwide outsourcing of ROW settlement.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002521

So, it came to my attention also, right?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002522

yung iba, yung dinaanan ng linya, actually hindi naman daw siya nagke-claim.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002523

Parang may lumalapit na taga-loob,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002524

sinasabi na mag-claim kayo kasi nadaanan ng transmission line.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002525

So, have you encountered this?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002526

May mga ilan po?

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002527

Yes, we've received some complaints, but we're already handling that.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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Kaya nga po nagkaroon po ng reporma with our processes.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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We will now do only court processes.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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Wala na po 'yung negotiated or out-of-court so that we can avoid these possible abuses.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002531

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, [unclear].

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002532

So, the 160,000 claimants, so in the next two years, it will go down?

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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We plan to reduce it easily by 50,000 with this outsourcing program po.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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So, hire a lot of lawyers, real estate brokers nationwide so that we can validate and settle these claims and, of course, file the necessary court cases.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002535

Those 160,000 claimants, how much in totality when it comes to pesos?

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002536

Yun pong nga 'yan, there's a new program din po. We will not pay for unregistered land kasi public land na po 'yun.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002537

So, there's a total of 220 billion po yung cost na 'yan.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002538

So, kailangan pa ng 220 billion?

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002539

Yes.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002540

Yes.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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To pay all those claimants.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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Well, of course, that's an estimate.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

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That's according to a 2016 zonal valuation po.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002544

Yeah, 2026 na 'yun.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002545

So, sige, sigurado tataas ako.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002546

And I don't think PISAM has that much money.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002547

Wala na kayo, no?

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002548

No.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002549

PSALM?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002550

Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002551

Kindly wind up.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002552

So, sige lang.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002553

Ay, hindi, hindi, hindi.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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Tumatakbo.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

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Ikaw pa.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002556

Gusto mo.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002557

Second round, third round, fourth round.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002558

Fifth round.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002559

Twenty-seven.

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-002560

So, Mr. Chair, correct.

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-002561

Our funding sources is, if not borrowings, is also from our direct revenue, sir.

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-002562

And part of our responsibility is to fund the transmission requirements of Transco.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002563

So, how many more pending na owned by Gencos na pag-aari ng gobyerno natin?

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-002564

For PSALM, sir, we have three more assets: Agus Pulangi, Mindanao Coal, and the

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

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Bakun Hydro Power Plant.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002566

Sige,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002567

most of the time, talagang binibenta n'yo,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002568

including Agus Pulangi,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002569

[unclear] n'yo o sineparate n'yo rin sila?

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-002570

Agus Pulangi is not for sale, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002571

Okay,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002572

thank you.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002573

Of course, to my friend,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002574

sabi mo nga,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002575

pag tinanong ko si Coco, laging sagot na ito, laging totoo eh.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002576

Sa UCME, how many nag-apply sa inyo ng mga pending co-ops para sa kanilang subsidy?

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002577

Mr. Chair, Honorable De Jesus, wala po kaming pending applications. Meron, they're all applied na po.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002578

So they're applied, pero lahat sila napagbigyan n'yo o hindi?

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002598

Nabibigyan po namin yung mga UCME allocations as far as the funds collected can accommodate. Para po ma-isagot ko ng tama, yung wala pong increase ng UCME rate since last year.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002599

So ibig sabihin po, lumaki po yung cost to generate electricity at paglaki ng cost to generate electricity, mas kakaunti yung kayang mabayaran ng cash na nakokolek para sa UCME.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002600

So kung dati-dati, kung dalawang buwan yung revolving fund, ngayon kailangan anim na buwan na yung revolving fund para continuous po yung operation.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002601

Ito po ay dulot sa panawagan na hindi natin bigla-biglain ang pag-pass on ng mga ito.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002602

So in short, yung budget mo last year and

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002603

2026-2027, almost the same?

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002604

Sa UCME po, yung nako-collect po sa grid consumers ay pareho lang po.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-002605

Pero pagdating sa budget ng NAPOCOR itself, which is not part of the UCME naman, so meron pong konting increase.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002606

You have three seconds, so last question, sir.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002607

Kay Chikuy sana, kaso three seconds lang.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002608

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002609

May natira ko at least may natira akong three seconds.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002610

Akong kay Chikuy? I will allow it.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002611

Ayun, then I'll give you a job.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002612

Go ahead.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-002613

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002614

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002615

Next to interpelate, Congressman Mark Cojuangco.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002616

Sir, you have the floor.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002617

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002618

My question is for the DOE regarding all the solar projects.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002619

Yes.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002620

Dung po sa distrito ko, sa bayan ng Bugalyon,

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002621

at Aguilar, matindi po ang kalawakan ng solar projects po doon.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002622

Ginawa po yan sa hillsides at itong matinding pagdating ng tagulan,

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002623

ang lahat ng putik po ay bumaba sa mga bundok at nagbara sa mga creeks at rivers ng bayan.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002624

Unprecedented.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002625

Pwede ba po ang pagbabaha ng poblasyon ng Bugalyon?

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002626

Pwede ba pong malaman kung ang DOE o ang DNR ang magahanap po ng solusyon sa problema nito?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002627

Mr. Chair, I'll pass on the mic to Yusef Guevara on the process, but we will have our Bureau

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002628

of the Renewable Energy Management.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002629

he will have our Bureau of the Environment Bureau to check on this.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002630

It's beyond the...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002631

It's beyond the mandate of DOE, but we can, if there's any violation, we can reprimand

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002632

or take action on the GENCO itself under permit.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002633

Yusef Guevara, please.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002634

Kasi po, Mr. Chairman, ang DOE ang nagtulak nito, itong mga project na to.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002635

They're the ones who imposed the DOE.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002636

At sila po ang nagsasabi na...

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002637

They're the ones who are saying you should not do this.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002638

They're the ones who are saying you should not do this.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002639

Dapat mag-50% solar and wind ang ating generating capacity by next year.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002640

So, sa palagay ko po, may konti silang pananagutan sa mga problema ang idinudulot po nito.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002641

So, ulitin ko po, paano po ang LGU?

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002642

So, tignan niyo po, i-check niyo po sa BSWD, record po ang pagbigay ng relief ngayon sa bayan ng Bugalyon.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002643

Yusek Guevara, please.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002644

Mr. Chair, magandang hapon po.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002645

Yung pong binanggit ninyo na pagbaha po sa inyong lugar,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002646

at titingnan po namin yung mga hydrological studies.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002647

Kasi po, bago magtayo ng planta,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002648

itong mga solar plants and any other kind of plants,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002649

iba't-ibang klaseng studies po ang ginagawa nila.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002650

Sa kaso po na binanggit ninyo,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002651

kailangan ma-tingnan yung hydrological studies.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002652

Malaman kung dahil sa pagtatayo nila ng mga solar power plant na yan,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002653

ina-divert ba yung tubig at nag-cost po ng baha.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002654

Gagawin po namin niya ang pagtatanong na yan dun sa mismong power supply generator po.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002655

When can you commit to do that, ma'am?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002656

Pagkatanong po namin kaagad sila.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002657

Next week po tatanungin na namin and then we will report back to you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002658

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002659

Hindi po nasasagot ang aking katanungan.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002660

Sino po ang sasagot sa lahat po ng remedial works na kailangan

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002661

sa pagtanggal ng putik ng mga ilog at mga creek na nagbarana sa bayan ng Bugalyon?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002662

Mr. Chair, iticheck po natin kung ang generator or ang developer,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002663

ang may kasalanan, siya po dapat ang sumagot.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002664

At i-co-coordinate po namin ito dun sa local government unit po.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002665

And I think DPWH, ma'am.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002666

And DPWH, of course.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002667

Thank you.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002668

Mr. Chairman, punta po tayo sa issue ng TransCo at NGCP.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002669

Itong chairman po ay ng Nuclear Energy Committee ay gustong malaman kung alo ba po

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002670

ang naging issue between TransCo and NGCP.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002671

Hila iyong karapatan ng NGCP ay unilaterally diniside ng sekretary ng DOE na bawiin.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002672

Ano ba po ang totoong storya nito?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002673

Before you answer TransCo, no?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002674

I'd like to inform lang kung markuhan ko na only TransCo is here.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002675

Wala po yung NGCP dito.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002676

Sir?

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002677

Mr. Chair, ano pong particular right na was taken away from NGCP?

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002678

Tinatanong ko po sa inyo. Ano ba po iyon?

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002679

To our knowledge, Mr. Chair, we continue to respect the concession agreement.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002680

Wala po kaming tinatanggal o binabawi among the obligations and rights of NGCP.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002681

If you are referring to an arbitral case, that was decided po noong February 2025.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002682

At nakumpirma naman po ang mga posisyon ng NGCP in that arbitration case.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002683

And some matters also confirms the position of TransCo and the government.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-002684

So, we are implementing that arbitral ruling kasi napagdesisyonan naman po yun ng arbitration court.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002685

Mr. Chairman, this representation would like to request that,

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002686

DOE and TransCo write an explanation to the committee.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002687

Copy-furnish this representation on these matters.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002688

Yes, Madam Secretary.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002689

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002690

You are directed to…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002691

Yes, we will comply.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002692

Thank you.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002693

Mr. Chairman, last point.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002694

Alam niyo hindi ko po maintindihan kung bakit…

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002695

Itinatago ng DOE ang risulta ng feasibility study na ginawa ng KHNP regarding the PNPP Unit 1 Nuclear Power Plant.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002696

Matagal na po hinihingi nitong representation.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002697

In fact, ako po ang nag-instigate nito.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002698

Three years ago.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002699

Three years ago.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002700

With KHMP.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002701

Bakit ayaw po bigyan ang Committee of Nuclear Energy ng kopya ng feasibility study

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002702

when it is a key information piece regarding legislation being crafted at the moment.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002703

House Bill 08567.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002704

It needs the information to make intelligent policy decisions regarding the disposition of PNPP 1 and subsequent nuclear power plants in the country.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002705

Noong last committee meeting po namin sa

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002710

Committee on Nuclear Energy, may nag-motion po na mag-issue ang committee ng subpoena

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002711

demanding the production by the DOE of said feasibility study.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002712

The House was divided. The vote to have a subpoena prevailed.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002713

I have here a copy of a fully signed up to the Secretary General of a subpoena.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002714

However, since...

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002715

there have been parties at DOE who have promised to produce these studies,

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002716

the Speaker has decided to intervene in the interest of preserving cooperation between the Legislature and the Executive.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002717

So he has ordered the Secretary General and the Sergeant-at-Arms to not serve.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002718

I am submitting a copy of this subpoena to the committee, to you, Mr. Chairman,

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002719

so that you know that this in fact happened.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002720

We would like to receive a copy of the feasibility study at the soonest possible time.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002721

Not from Korea.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002722

The copy from the DOE, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002723

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002724

Last question. Kindly answer, Mr. Guevara.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002725

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002726

Mr. Chair, the hard copy is the only kind of copy that is issued by KHNP,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002727

and it is controlled on who is the recipient of the copy.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002728

The hard copy that will be submitted to the committee will arrive by Friday or Monday,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002729

and we will submit to the committee right away.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002730

So wala pa po sa inyo?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002731

Wala pa po sa amin eh.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002732

So on the way na po.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002733

Sa inyo, Friday.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002752

Can you submit to this committee?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002753

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002754

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002755

So this Friday?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-002756

Friday or Monday po ang dating?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002757

O, ganyan mo.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002758

Monday.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002759

Mr. Chairman,

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002760

Mr. Chairman,

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002761

mukhang may confusion po, no?

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002762

May kopya sila ngayon.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002763

Kopya nila ng DOE.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002764

Bakit ayaw kaming bigyan ng kopya ng DOE?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002765

Can you clarify that?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002766

Do you have a copy?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002767

This is a copy or certified through copy na?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002768

Kasi it's hard rin na,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002769

I understand, ma'am.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002770

It's hard na magbigay

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002771

na hindi pa rin certified through copy.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002772

Mr. Chair,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002773

it's part of the agreement with KHNP.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002774

Sila yung nagbibigay ng hard copy.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002775

We're constrained with that.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002776

No, but,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002777

by,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002778

there's an MDE on our part.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002779

The commitment is

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002780

to submit to this committee by?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002781

By Monday, sir,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002782

because we have already requested

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002783

a request by the...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002784

Yes, that's acceptable.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002785

Yes, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002786

Yes.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002787

It's on its way already.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002788

Okay.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002789

Thank you.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002790

Thank you.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002791

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002792

I object strongly

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002793

because

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002794

why should we open ourselves

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002795

to the possibility

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002796

that Korea will send us

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002797

a different copy?

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002798

Why can't this

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002799

chairman

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002800

and this

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002801

nuclear energy committee

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002802

get a copy

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002803

of exactly

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002804

what is with DOE?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002805

They have committed already

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002806

that they will

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002807

submit the copy

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002808

of what you have requested.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002809

They have committed, sir,

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002810

that they will submit

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002811

a copy that is still

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002812

arriving from Korea.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002813

That is unacceptable.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002814

Yes, but they will submit it

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002815

once they get it by Monday.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002816

That's a few days,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002817

Congressman Marco Anco.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002818

I think we just have to be

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002819

a little bit patient.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002820

Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002821

Suspended.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002845

Do you have a copy?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002846

Yes or no?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002847

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002848

Why can't you submit that copy?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002849

It's part of the agreement,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002850

Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002851

Part of the agreement?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002852

Yes, sir.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002853

What is the part?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002854

We cannot photocopy

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002855

or transmit it anywhere else.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002856

They have to...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002857

Or else,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002858

you will be violating

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002859

the agreement.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002860

We have to remember

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002861

that the feasibility study

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002862

was done as a grant

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002863

by KHNP.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002864

Okay.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002865

Wala tayong gastos diyan, sir.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-002866

Yes, and it's a few days.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002867

Today is

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002868

the

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002869

Wednesday,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002870

Thursday,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002871

Friday,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002872

Boss,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002873

we will do it on Monday.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002874

What assurance

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002875

does the chairman have

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002876

that the copy

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002877

will be identical

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002878

to the copy

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002879

being held

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002880

by the DOE

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002881

at this time?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002882

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002883

We can review

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002884

what they sent

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002885

and then compare it

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002886

with what we have.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002887

Yes.

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002888

So you will certify it,

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Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco

asr-002889

Mr. Chairman?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-002890

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002891

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002892

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002893

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002894

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002895

Thank you, Congressman Mike.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002896

At least that's clear.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002897

Thank you for that concern.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002898

Thank you, Boss.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002899

Ikaw pa, Boss.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002900

Next,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002901

thank you, Mr. Pilip.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002902

We have a congressman

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002903

from the minority,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002904

Congresswoman Reneko.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002905

Are you around?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002906

Since wala.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002907

Next is

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002908

Congressman Sergio Dago

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002909

from the minority.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002910

You have the floor.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002911

Thank you, Chair.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002912

Yes, sir.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002913

Mga maiksi na tong ano ko.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-002914

Ay, wag.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002915

First of all,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002916

magandang hapon po

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002917

sa

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002918

Energy family.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002919

Hindi ko na isa-isahin.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002920

Mahubos yung

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002921

five minutes ko.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002922

Kanina,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002923

Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002924

may kasamaan ako

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002925

nagtanong

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002926

regarding doon sa

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002927

NEA Memo

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002928

2014-

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002929

003.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002930

Alam ko po

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002931

yung MIMO na yun

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002932

na nag-interview

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002933

ng NIA

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002934

doon sa mga

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002935

collective bargaining

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002936

agreements

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002937

of some

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002938

electric cooperatives.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002939

Pwede po bang

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002940

ipaliwanag ng

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002941

NEA

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002942

bakit po kayo

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002943

nag-intervene

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002944

doon sa mga

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002945

CBA na yun?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002946

Sir?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002947

Mr. Chair?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002948

In response to

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002949

Cong. Dagooc's

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002950

query,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002951

we found

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002952

several

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002953

several

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002954

exorbitant

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002955

demands

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002956

of

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002957

labor unions

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002958

that will be

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002959

violative

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002960

of

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002961

the

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002962

, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002963

cash operating

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002964

budget structure

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002965

or the working capital

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002966

requirement of

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002967

the, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002968

electric cooperatives.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002969

To name a few,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002970

ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002971

the type of

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002972

exorbitant, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002973

demands,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002974

there are unions

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002975

who are demanding

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002976

a

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002977

grocery allowance

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002978

of up to

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002979

6,000 pesos

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002980

a month.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002981

And, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002982

obviously,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002983

the electric cooperative

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002984

cannot afford

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002985

to give that.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002986

Ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002987

another would be

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002988

a laundry allowance

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002989

of 500 to 600 pesos

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002990

a month.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002991

I mean,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002992

imagine laundry allowance,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002993

ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002994

obviously,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002995

hindi rin ho

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002996

kayang ibigay

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002997

ng mga electric

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002998

cooperative yan.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-002999

Meron pa hong

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003000

water allowance

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003001

na hindi ko na ho

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003002

babanggatin

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003003

kung sino ang mga

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003004

cooperative ito.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003005

At ito ang may

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003006

medyo matindi.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003007

Ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003008

humihingi rin ho

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003009

sila ng utility

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003010

allowance, no?

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003011

Ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003012

some,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003013

discount

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003014

on the, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003015

consumption nila

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003016

ng electricity

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003017

na ang sinasabi nila

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003018

dahil taga

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003019

co-op sila,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003020

pwede bang

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003021

ibawas yung

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003022

DSM

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003023

doon sa kanilang

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003024

electric bill.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003025

So,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003026

yung mga bagay na po

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003027

na yan,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003028

eh,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003029

kung bibigyan ho

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003030

namin ng pahintulot,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003031

eh,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003032

makaka-apekto ho

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003033

sa very existence

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003034

ng cooperative.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003035

As in fact,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003036

meron nga ho

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003037

isang cooperative,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003038

I mean,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003039

I'll make,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003040

ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003041

case in point,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003042

yung Tarelco 1 po

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003043

na nakalusot

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003044

nung mga

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003045

past administration

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003046

na humihingi ho

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003047

ng mga exorbitant,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003048

ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003049

demands.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003050

Ngayon ho,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003051

ay nag-file na

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003052

sa Supreme Court

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003053

ang, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003054

Tarelco 1

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003055

na kung sakasakaling

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003056

hindi ho may re-reverse

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003057

ang desisyon

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003058

ng Court of Appeals,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003059

it will surely

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003060

fold up,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003061

Mr. Chair.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003062

Ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003063

thank you,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003064

Mr. Chair.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003065

Ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003066

ang ginagawa po ba

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003067

ng

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003068

NEA,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003069

Mr. Chair,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003070

ay,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003071

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003072

ginagampanan lang niya

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003073

ang kanyang trabaho

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003074

alinsunod sa,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003075

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003076

mga umeeral na batas

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003077

kagaya ng

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003078

PD 269

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003079

at R18531

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003080

para

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003081

mapangalagaan

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003082

ang mga

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003083

member consumer

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003084

owners?

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003085

Tamo po yun,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003086

Mr. Chair.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003087

Ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003088

Honorable Dagoog,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003089

ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003090

ginagawa lang po

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003091

ng NEA

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003092

ang kanyang

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003093

mandato

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003094

na pangalagaan

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003095

ang, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003096

kaperahan

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003097

na,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003098

ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003099

ng, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003100

kooperatiba.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003101

Pero hindi ho kami

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003102

tumitigil doon.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003103

Hindi ho namin, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003104

ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003105

ibinabato ang kasalanan

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003106

sa mga

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003107

labor,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003108

labor unions.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003109

Kaya nga po,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003110

ngayon,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003111

ay nakikipag-ugnayan kami

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003112

sa

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003113

Department of Labor

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003114

and Employment.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003115

Ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003116

nagsisagawa ho kami

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003117

ng mga

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003118

training,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003119

ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003120

paano ho

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003121

makapag-negotiate

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003122

ng maayos

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003123

ang mga

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003124

labor union

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003125

at ang management

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003126

and, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003127

tingin ko naman po,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003128

ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003129

it's all,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003130

it will all

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003131

boil down na

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003132

ang aming moto

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003133

pag may training

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003134

is what you cannot

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003135

give,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003136

I mean,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003137

what you cannot

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003138

give,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003139

what you don't have,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003140

no?

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003141

So,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003142

ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003143

nakakausap ko naman po

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003144

yung mga labor union

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003145

officials

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003146

at, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003147

sila naman po

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003148

ay supportive

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003149

sa ginagawa

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003150

ng NEA

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003151

at, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003152

hanga din po nila

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003153

na maging maayos

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003154

ang negosasyon

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003155

ng CBA.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003156

Ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003157

thank you,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003158

Admin.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003159

Ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003160

for the information

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003161

of Admin Nani,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003162

no,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003163

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003164

isa lang po

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003165

ang dinulog ko

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003166

kahapon sa

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003167

consultation

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003168

with DOLE.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003169

Ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003170

kinausap ko lang po

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003171

si sekretary

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003172

na kung pupwede

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003173

magkaroon na

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003174

ng template

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003175

ng CBA

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003176

na,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003177

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003178

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003179

gagawan ni,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003180

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003181

COOP,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003182

DOLE,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003183

at saka NEA

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003184

pagtulong-tulungan.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003185

Yung template na yan

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003186

para uniform

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003187

na lahat.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003188

Wala na yung mga

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003189

grocery allowance

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003190

na yun.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003191

Ayun po

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003192

ang ginagawa namin

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003193

ngayon

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003194

in cooperation

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003195

with DOLE,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003196

Mr. Chair.

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003197

Ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003198

bumubuo po kami

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003199

ng Tripartite Council

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003200

at ima-manualize

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003201

na po namin

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003202

ang, ah,

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003203

negotiations

Source

NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003204

ng CBA.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003205

Thank you, Admin.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003206

Ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003207

thank you, Mr. Chair.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003208

Ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003209

noon po sa

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003210

ER 1-94,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003211

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003212

mayroon po tayong,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003213

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003214

problema sa

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003215

removal

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003216

or pagpapababa

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003217

ng

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003218

non-technical

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003219

at removal

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003220

ng,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003221

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003222

pagpapababa

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003223

ng technical

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003224

removal

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003225

ng,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003226

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003227

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003228

non-technical.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003229

Pwede po bang

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003230

maguhin natin

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003231

yung, ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003232

pa,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003233

pamamaraan

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003234

sa paggamit

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003235

ng ER

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003236

1-94

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003237

na itututok

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003238

natin

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003239

sa systems

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003240

loss reduction?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003241

Ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003242

Mr. Chair,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003243

ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003244

we have

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003245

issued

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003246

a new,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003247

new rules.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003248

I think mga

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003249

this year lang yan.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003250

Ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003251

which will allow

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003252

also,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003253

ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003254

actually,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003255

ni-reformat namin

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003256

na imbis na

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003257

one centavo

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003258

rin siya.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003259

Magiging

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003260

three centavos

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003261

na siya.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003262

And then,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003263

um,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003264

give it to the,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003265

the community

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003266

to decide

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003267

kung siyan siya

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003268

gagamitin.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003269

And,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003270

if they wanted

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003271

a subsidy

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003272

to the

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003273

consumers,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003274

they can do that also.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003275

If they wanted

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003276

to help

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003277

the co-ops

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003278

on the infrastructure,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003279

they can also do that,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003280

sir.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003281

Ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003282

what we have tried

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003283

to do is just

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003284

to simplify.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003285

Kasi dati kasi

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003286

ang dami requirement.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003287

May mga business plan

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003288

pa rin hinihingi,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003289

mga ganun.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003290

So,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003291

actually,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003292

it's allowed

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003293

with the new rules

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003294

that we have.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003295

We just need to,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003296

to broadcast

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003297

that more,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003298

ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003299

Mr. Chair.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003300

Ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003301

ang,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003302

ang minumungkahi ko po,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003303

ah,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003304

Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003305

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003306

Madam Secretary,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003307

ay,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003308

huwag na nating

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003309

bigyan ng option.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003310

Ay,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003311

i-ano na lang natin.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003312

Anyway,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003313

para naman

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003314

sa kapakanan

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003315

ng lahat niyan.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003316

Kasi kung ibigay mo

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003317

na parang

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003318

subsidy sa kanila,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003319

ay hindi naman

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003320

kakayanin

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003321

na i-subsidize

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003322

maybe one month.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003323

Pero kung

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003324

systems loss reduction,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003325

noong term po

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003326

na mababawasan

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003327

yung losses nila,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003328

bababa po yung singil

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003329

sa,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003330

sa franchise

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003331

ng electric co-op na yan.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003332

Yes, sir.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003333

We'll,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003334

we'll propose

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003335

and we'll do

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003336

the public consultation

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003337

kung,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003338

kumusta po.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003339

Ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003340

we cannot,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003341

ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003342

we'll,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003343

we'll,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003344

we'll draft something

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003345

that maybe that,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003346

ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003347

if it's acceptable

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003348

to our,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003349

ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003350

stakeholders,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003351

Mr. Chair.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003352

Ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003353

importante po yan,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003354

Madam Secretary,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003355

kasi isa sa mga

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003356

technical losses na,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003357

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003358

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003359

nagpataas ng technical losses.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003360

Yung maabang

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003361

underbelt.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003362

So,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003363

kailangan natin

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003364

ng transformer

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003365

para iiksian natin

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003366

yung underbelt,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003367

yung secondary line,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003368

para hindi magkaroon

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003369

ng voltage drop

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003370

yung dolo.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003371

So,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003372

kung magawa natin yan

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003373

doon sa mga community

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003374

where that

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003375

ER-194

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003376

ay ginagamit,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003377

lahat po makinabang,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003378

hindi lang iilan.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003379

Thank you,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003380

Mr. Chair.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003381

We'll,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003382

we'll,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003383

we'll try to propose,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003384

ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003385

ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003386

revisions in the circular

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003387

and,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003388

ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003389

ah,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003390

consult the stakeholder.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003391

Thank you,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003392

Mr. Chair.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003393

Thank you.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003394

Thank you,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003395

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003396

Madam Secretary.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003397

Sa PISAM,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003398

just for the record,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003399

although nag-usap na kami

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003400

kanina ni,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003401

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003402

President Diniz,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003403

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003404

ang,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003405

ang,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003406

Agus Anpulang

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003407

issue,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003408

ay,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003409

for the record lang,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003410

we with the Mindanao,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003411

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003412

stakeholders,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003413

no,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003414

particularly electric cooperatives,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003415

we'll be inviting,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003416

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003417

President Diniz

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003418

just to discuss

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003419

the,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003420

ah,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003421

ongoing activity

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003422

for Agusan-Pulangi

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003423

because the

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003424

electric cooperatives and

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003425

most of the legislators of Mindanao

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003426

are alarmed. Kasi alam naman namin

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003427

lahat na ang nagpababa

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003428

lang sa Mindanao ay Agusan-Pulangi.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003429

So, just for the record lang yan,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003430

no need for President Nisto

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003431

nag-usap na kami.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003432

Ano,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003433

for

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003434

other issues sa PISAM,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003435

medyo mababa

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003436

this is PISAM

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003437

and ERC, Mr. Chair,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003438

medyo

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003439

mahaba po yung

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003440

panahon ng pag-repan sa

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003441

lifeline natin. So, in effect,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003442

nagkaroon po ng

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003443

working capital

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003444

problem yung ibang mga electric

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003445

cooperatives. So, papano po natin

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003446

mapa-exit doon sa mga co-op

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003447

na kumpleto na yung

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003448

submission? Kasi this is in millions

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003449

of pesos na

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003450

lifeline.

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003451

Mr. Chair,

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003452

Mr. Chair,

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003453

Mr. Chair,

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003454

Kong Surge, per my

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003455

statistics, sir, in the PISAM office, sir,

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003456

per

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003457

ERC resolution,

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003458

sir, the minimum processing time is

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003459

3 days and the maximum processing

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003460

time for lifeline

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003461

subsidy is 15 days.

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003462

Our current processing

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003463

time on average, Kong Surge,

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003464

Mr. Chair, is about 10.7 days.

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003465

I think we are within that

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003466

parameters of the lifeline

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003467

subsidy and we have provided

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003468

already our comments to a

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003469

Philreca letter that we have received

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003470

two weeks ago, complete with the statistics

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003471

Mr. Chair, Kong Surge.

Source

PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-003472

Thank you.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003473

Salamat po kung ganoon, Mr. Chairman, pero

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003474

in the case of Siargao, hindi po ganoon

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003475

ka-exit.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003476

Sinwerte lang ako dahil maaba pa yung

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003477

PC ko. So, pero doon

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003478

sa mga electric cooperative na

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003479

medyo

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003480

isang kahig, isang tuka,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003481

ay magkaroon po silang problema

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003482

sa payroll nila kasi inuuna nila yung

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003483

yung generation.

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003484

So, second round ako,

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003485

Mr. Chair, kasi marami pa akong concerned

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003486

with national

Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003487

Thank you, sir.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003488

Thank you, Congressman Dago.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003489

Next from the majority, we have

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003490

Congressman Pajernos.

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003490-split-2

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003491

Good.

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003492

Afternoon po sa Department

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003493

of Energy, headed by

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003494

Secretary Guerin.

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003495

So, for my first

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003496

question po, is with regard

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003497

to the budget, DOE

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003498

proposes a 5.575

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003499

billion budget,

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003500

but its utilization

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003501

presentation excludes a

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003502

separate 29.86

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003503

billion emergency

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003504

allotment. How can

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003505

Congress properly evaluate

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003506

DOE's performance

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003507

without a consolidated accounting

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003508

of all regular, automatic,

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003509

continuing emergency, and Malampaya-funded

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003510

resources? And,

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003511

considering the total amount under

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003512

DOE's control, what lasting improvements

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003513

in electricity prices,

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003514

reliability, and energy security

Source

Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003515

justify additional funding?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003516

Mr. Chair,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003517

currently, our utilization

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003518

is at 49%

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003519

as of today,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003520

August 31.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003521

We were hoping

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003522

it would be about 70%

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003523

already by this time.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003524

Unfortunately, we had to

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003525

recalibrate our

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003526

procurement,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003527

yung bidding namin for mobile energy

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003528

system, and the

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003529

DOE automation project.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003530

Kaya, nire-bid

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003531

siya, Mr. Chair.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003532

Once that's completed, and

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003533

we're really fast-tracking this, kasi

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003534

kailangan namin itong procurement

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003535

na ito, that will reach about

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003536

68.31 already.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003537

Kaya, probably within

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003538

the months of September

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003539

or early October, we'll

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003540

reach that by then. The objective,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003541

we already have done

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003542

the simulation, and then

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003543

we expect to reach about

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003544

95.89%

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003545

by end of 2026, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003546

Now, we have a catch-up

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003547

plan for this, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003548

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003549

Well, actually, minention ko po yung

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003550

sa 29.86

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003551

emergency allotment.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003552

Paano po ba natin yun

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003553

mamimesure po?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003554

Mr. Chair,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003555

there's additional

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003556

29 billion

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003557

that was

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003558

given to DOE and passed

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003559

to PNOC. That was

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003560

in response to the

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003561

fuel emergency.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003562

So, yun yung funds na ginamit

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003563

ng PNOC Mother

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003564

Exploration

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003565

para po bumili ng

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003566

mga reserba natin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003567

Mother on the LPG

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003568

and then

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003569

Exploration Corporation.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003570

So, yun po yung reserba natin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003571

It's still there.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003572

We have decided not to

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003573

let go too much na ibenta na siya

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003574

kasi hindi pa tapos yung crisis eh.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003575

So, minimaintain lang muna

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003576

namin yan. That will require a separate

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003577

liquidation because we will

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003578

liquidate that once the emergency is

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003579

lifted already, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003580

Thank you, Madam, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003581

On my second point,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003582

meron po three highlighted projects

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003583

ang DOE, yung ating

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003584

resource surveys, mobile energy systems

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003585

and automation.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003586

Total of

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003587

about 2.91 billion

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003588

or more than half po

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003589

ng proposed budget.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003590

Pero, about

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003591

1.53 million households remain

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003592

without electricity while

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003593

several areas still experience

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003594

interruptions. Why is this

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003595

the proper balance of priorities?

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003596

How these expenditures

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003597

directly produce lower rates,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003598

fewer outages,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003599

and permanent rather than

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003600

temporary electrification?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003601

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003602

First off,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003603

these programs,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003604

the MES, the mobile energy

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003605

system, and

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003606

then the

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003607

Graduometry Project,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003608

and then the ISSP

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003609

will make us

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003610

more

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003611

energy secure

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003612

in that sense. Now,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003613

when we talk about electrification,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003614

DOE is actually not

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003615

the main character in

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003616

the energization

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003617

of our country. It's more

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003618

of the National Electrification Administration.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003619

What is allotted

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003620

only in DOE is

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003621

the 500 million

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003622

which we will use for

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003623

MES, which will

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003624

such units will be

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003625

deployed to the islands na wala

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003626

pang connection. So, yun yung gagawin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003627

Kasi yun yung mga nakakalimutan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003628

And then, it's not within the coverage.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003629

So, dun po kami magde-deploy

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003630

nito ng mga MES.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003631

But, the electrification of

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003632

NEA, I think

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003633

it has been maintained. I'm not sure

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003634

if the budget has been

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003635

maintained na pareho din siya by

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003636

last 2026.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003637

It would be ideal if there's more.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003638

Pero, we

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003639

respect what is the

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003640

decision of the

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003641

DBM and the executive.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003642

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003643

On my next point,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003644

reported packed silica estimates

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003645

3 to 5 gigawatts, about

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003646

20% to 35%

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003647

of Luzon's record peak would be needed.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003648

Was that already taken into

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003649

consideration when DOE projected

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003650

the supply and demand of electricity in the Philippines?

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003651

Or, will the companies there

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003652

be competing with ordinary

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003653

Filipinos for electricity?

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003654

Are the follow-up question

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003655

bar, are the retail rates expected to

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003656

go up because of this?

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003657

And, is packed silica

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003658

covered by DOE's 25 gigawatts

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003659

green energy auction

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003660

roadmap, or will it require

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003661

separate procurement?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003662

Mr. Chair, we're currently

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003663

in talks with the packed silica

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003664

group and even with BCDA

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003665

where it will be located.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003666

Because, we need to know what year

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003667

the megawatts are going to be needed

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003668

such that we could plan

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003669

accordingly. And, for the information

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003670

of members of

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003671

the committee,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003672

we have over

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003673

100 gigawatts

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003674

of

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003675

awarded service contracts

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003676

for renewable energy.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003677

The current capacity of the country

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003678

is 32 gigawatts.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003679

So, even if

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003680

we double

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003681

the need,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003682

they're only asking for 3 gigawatts,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003683

we have enough supply if we need

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003684

to turn them on.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003685

Ang kailangan lang kasi po nila ay mayroong

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003686

off-take. Kung magagarantee ng

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003687

packed silica na may off-take,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003688

the plants are going to be built.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003689

And, they will not compete with the

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003690

regular plan which is for the rest

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003691

of the country.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003692

And, second, yung price impact.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003693

Kasi po yung mga, kunyaring

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003694

green energy auction natin,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003695

ano po regulated po yung pricing

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003696

diyan eh. So, alam na po

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003697

namin kung ano yung magiging impact

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003698

doon sa bill ng ating mga

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003699

consumers. And, ang nakikita

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003700

po namin doon sa study na ginawa

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003701

natin with IMAP, habang

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003702

tumataas yung porsyento ng renewables,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003703

bumaba ba po ang presyo

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003704

sa market eh. So,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003705

dahil ang plano po natin,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003706

35% by 2030 na

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003707

renewables, tapos 50%

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003708

by 2040, eventually po

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003709

bababa po yung presyo ng kuryente.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003710

Mr. Chair,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003711

in addition lang, we can

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003712

provide it to the committee. We

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003713

already issued a data center,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003714

although packed silica is not data

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003715

center, they say, you know, it's manufacturing.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003716

But, for our concern,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003717

it's data centers. We have issued

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003718

a data center guidebook.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003719

Kasi, we'd rather have them,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003720

uh, develop their own

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003721

generation, uh, generation

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003722

plan, self-generation dapat sila eh.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003723

Not, so not to, to

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003724

destabilize the grid. So, uh,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003725

we can provide that to the committee also, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003726

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003727

On my next question,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003728

DOE retained a coal

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003729

moratorium because existing

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003730

in pipeline capacity was deemed sufficient.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003731

But, many countries

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003732

including Italy, Germany, Japan,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003733

South Korea, and India

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003734

among others, have already extended

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003735

their coal plants to keep their electricity

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003736

prices reasonable.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003737

As we know, green energy is so expensive.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003738

Is the government then planning

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003739

to ask coal power plants to operate again

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003740

so cost of electricity

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003741

can go down?

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003742

For a poor country like the Philippines

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003743

where people are having a hard time

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003744

paying for basic services,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003745

should we not rethink the timeline

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003746

of coal phase-out?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003747

Mr. Chair, wala pa po tayong

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003748

coal phase-out. We only have a

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003749

coal moratorium policy.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003750

No new coal plants may be built

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003751

except those that are

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003752

not covered by the moratorium.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003753

Yung not covered po natin,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003754

mga 3 to 5 gigawatts pa po ng coal

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003755

yung tinatayo sa kasalukuyan.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003756

So, even if we turn off

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003757

some of them, like the ones that are

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003758

really very, very old or

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003759

non-efficient,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003760

may papalit po na capacity.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003761

Tapos yun naman pong tungkol sa presyo,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003762

talo na po ng

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003763

solar ang coal eh

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003764

in terms of price.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003765

Pag sinumahan mo ng

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003766

battery, halos pareho na sila

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003767

ng presyo eh. So, yung

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003768

dating thinking natin na mas mura ang

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003769

coal kesa renewable, hindi na po

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003770

siya totoo for certain technologies.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003771

Specifically po eh, solar po.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003772

So, mapapansin niyo po

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003773

yung portfolio ngayon ng Department

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003774

of Energy, lumalaki po yung

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003775

share ng solar. Kasi pag nagsisimulate

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003776

po kami nung ano bang

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003777

capacity ng solar, wind, etc.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003778

Tinitingnan po namin yung

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003779

bottom line, magkano magiging presyo ng kuryente.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003780

And nakikita po namin na

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003781

yung solar po nagkocontribute sa

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003782

pagpapababa po ng presyo ng kuryente.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-003783

Dahil mas mura na po siya sa coal.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003784

Pwede po bang makaingin

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003785

nung report na yan, your comparative

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003786

analysis of the coal

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003787

versus the other

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003788

green energy?

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003789

Yes.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003790

And then, yung susunod ko po ay

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003791

sa fuel marking program, which is

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003792

supposed to deter smuggling and tax

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003793

leakage by chemically

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003794

marking tax-paid petroleum.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003795

BOC reported po kasi yung

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003796

21.102 billion liters

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003797

marked last year,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003798

generating 247 billion

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003799

in taxes. Yet,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003800

madami pa rin pong mga illicit fuel

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003801

that continues to surface,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003802

such as nung last year,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003803

about 674,520 liters

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003804

of illicit fuel

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003805

worth 22.44 million

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003806

in Bataan.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003807

Meron po, and then sa Bicol po,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003808

39,146 liters

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003809

of non-compliant fuel.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003810

So, despite six years of fuel

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003811

marking, does DOE have an estimate

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003812

of how much smuggled

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003813

or illicit fuel is still entering

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003814

the Philippine market annually?

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003815

And how do you measure whether the program

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003816

is working? Tapos,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003817

follow-up question lang din po. Do you know what percentage

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003818

of petroleum sold in the Philippines

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003819

is legitimate tax-paid

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003820

fuel?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003821

Before, Mr. Chair,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003822

actually,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003823

the smuggling,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003824

would be more of a DOF

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003825

under customs

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003826

and BIR. Kasi in fuel marking,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003827

it's more of monitoring if you pay taxes,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003828

not if you have

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003829

permit from DOE.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003830

But, I think there's a way,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003831

other than the

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003832

fuel marking system,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003833

DOE

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003834

can compare

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003835

the import as against

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003836

the sale.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003837

And we can,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003838

if you just give me a moment,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003839

if you just give me a moment,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003840

if you just give me a moment,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003841

if you just give us some time

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003842

to make the calculations,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003843

kung para malaman, may record naman rin kung ilang

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003844

pinapadala sa Pilipinas eh.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003845

Yung kailangan malaman kung nababangga ba siya

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003846

sa natatanggap nila sa Pilipinas.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003847

So, Yusek Sandy can

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003848

further explain on this.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003849

We can provide you with the data.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003850

We don't have it right now.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003851

Yes, actually, also

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003852

part nung automation

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003853

and AI. Kasi ang laki nung data.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003854

In fact, meron tayong

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003855

data sharing agreement.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003856

Sa Bureau of Customs

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003857

and sa BIR

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003858

and then yung sa data ng

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003859

DOE, which is based

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003860

sa declaration ng mga oil company.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003861

Para pwedeng pagbangga-banggain

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003862

yan para makita

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003863

kung merong anomalya.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003864

Bakit sobrang

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003865

But there's a lot of data, so it's also part of automation and AI

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003866

to have stricter cross-data referencing

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003867

so that we can see those gaps.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003868

We are working on trying to solve those gaps through data analysis.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003869

Last about, with regard to the fuel issue.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003870

As of April 2026, DOE reported approximately 49 days of diesel

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003871

and 54 days of gasoline supply.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003872

But those figures largely represent overall national inventories

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003873

rather than necessarily government-owned strategic stocks.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003874

Of the countries reported 49 days of diesel inventory,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003875

how many days are actually owned or controlled by the government?

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003876

And where will PNOC physically store the reserve?

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003877

Yes, actually, the government doesn't normally buy stock, no?

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003878

We did this in this time of emergency.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003879

We bought, essentially, the government's hold, the one we bought,

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003880

five days of diesel stock only.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003881

And then less than a day of stock of gasoline.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003882

At the present time, the government doesn't have its own facility.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003883

We rented storage.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003884

In one of the private areas.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003885

Private storage companies.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003886

And, in fact, there was a discussion about strategic petroleum reserve,

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003887

which the Congress is now looking into.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003888

There are committee hearings.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003889

There are drafts.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003890

Because we have seen the importance of the government role.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003891

But we have to define what is the role of the government.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003892

Because we still don't want to intrude too much private enterprise.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003893

Because,

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003894

we need a lot of money for the negotiation of the fuel.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003895

So, we have to be strategic about where to allocate the money of the government

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-003896

when we establish the strategic petroleum reserve.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003897

Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003898

Yes.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003899

So that Chico can recite.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003900

He's the one embarking on the strategic reserve, on the government.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003901

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003902

They're already working on it.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003903

If you can elaborate on it.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-003904

What is our status now on putting up our own tanks for the government storage?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003905

Yes, Mr. Chico Alvarez.

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003906

Good afternoon, Mr. Chair.

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003907

Members.

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003908

Yes, next year is our priority project.

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003909

We'll start our tank farm on the property of PNOC in Bataan.

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003910

So, initially, on phase one next year, we will establish a tank farm worth one million barrels.

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003911

But, eventually,

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003912

the next phase,

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003913

we'll reach 15 million barrels for our tank farm.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003914

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003915

PNOC is really good.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003916

Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003917

Just a follow up on what Press Alvarez said.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003918

Are we building a genuine government-owned strategic petroleum reserve or are we simply

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003919

buying fuel whenever an emergency occurs?

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003920

Our first phase will be owned by PNOC.

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003921

The first one million barrels.

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003922

And then,

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003923

the next phase,

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-003924

We are open to partnership with other private companies or anyone who wants to join us in a joint venture or invest in us.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003925

No, it's very, very good.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003926

Thank you.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003927

So, last question, boss.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003928

Mr. Ched, I would just like to make a quick manifestation.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003929

Yes, sir.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003930

I would like to manifest my full support for the proposed budget of the Department of Energy.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003931

And, of course, any additional budget that will help our consumers, our kababayan, para bumaba yung presyo ng ating kuryente.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003932

So, yun lang po.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos

asr-003933

Maraming salamat po, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003934

Bago pa lang.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003935

Paalala mo sa akin yun.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003936

Yes, thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003937

So, next, from the minority, we have Sara Ilago.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003938

She's around.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003939

Naan.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003940

We have Representative Ched.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-003941

She's in Gonzales.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003942

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003943

Magandang hapon po sa ating lahat to the DOF family, headed by a very beautiful and hardworking Secretary Sharon Garin.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003944

Bago po ako magtanong, gusto ko lang po magpunang magpasalamat sa NAPO Corps.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003945

Kasi po, yung island.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003946

The island, Barangays, ay na-address na po yung concern namin sa Eastern Samar.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003947

I can still recall when our former colleague, Pres. Coco, was there in my province.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003948

Bagyo po yun.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003949

But still, tinuloy nyo pa.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003950

Ang magkagandahan pa po, Mr. Chair, Madam Secretary, nanghingi po ako ng isa, dalawa ang ibinigay.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003951

Ibig sabihin, pag nanghingi ka ng dalawa.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003952

Dapat ang ibibigay nito.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003953

Maraming salamat po, Pres. Coco.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003954

Pangalawa, gusto ko pong magpasalamat sa NEA, kaya Admin Nani.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003955

Si Admin Nani po ay malaking instrumento sa probinsya ng Eastern Samar.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003956

Alam nyo naman po, problema sa kuryente.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003957

May low voltage.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003958

Andyan naman po, brown out parate.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003959

Pero, very...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003960

Admin Nani, please listen.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003961

Pinupuri ka na po.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003962

Pinupuri ka na.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003963

Pinupuri.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003964

Sinubok yung kausap mo eh.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003965

Yod, pero hingi yun.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003966

Ito puri.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003967

Sorry, sorry po.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003968

Thank you.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003969

Pinupuri ba?

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003970

Pinupuri.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003971

I just want to thank sa mga intervention at mga tulong nyo po sa Eastern Samar.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003972

Boss, as I have said, because of the brown outs and the other low voltage, you're doing your best.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003973

Sa...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003974

Para po.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003975

Matugunan ang pangangailangan po ng kababayan natin sa Eastern Samar.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003976

I will now go to my line of questioning, still to the NEA.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003977

Nakita ko po sa GAA 2026 that we have the 69KV Subtransmission Line Project.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-003978

Gusto ko po magtanong kung ano po ang status dito, Admin?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003979

Opo, Mr. Chair.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003980

Ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003981

Thank you very much, Sean.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003982

Ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003983

Yan po ay...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003984

Ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003985

Inirequest ng Isabel ko sa akin nung 2025 at akin pong pinuntahan para inspeksyonin ang kalagayan ng Bayan ng Giwan.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003986

Yan po ay para sa Bayan ng Giwan na supposedly load end ng Eastern Samar.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003987

Napakagandang lugar po.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003988

At nakita ko po ang...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003989

Ang...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003990

Investment potential sa lugar na to.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003991

At narinig ko rin po ang hinahing ng mga residente ron at mga hotel operators.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003992

Talaga nga naman po yung 220, baka nasa less than 110 po ang dating.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003993

Tama po yan.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003994

Kaya po ipinilit ko po na ilabi kay dito po sa Kongreso nung 2025 na matulungan ang...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003995

Ang...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003996

Ang NEA para mapondohan ang 69 KB po ng Bayan ng Giwan close to 200 kilometers, huya ata po yun.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003997

At napagbigyan naman po ako ng Kongreso at nailagay sa GAA.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003998

However, kumpleto na po ang aming feasibility study both technical and financial para sa Isamelco.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-003999

Ready to go na po kami.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004000

Kaya lang po nung...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004001

Ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004002

Nung...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004003

Ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004004

Nag-follow up kami sa DBM dahil wala pa akong downloading sa NEA, ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004005

Ang sagot po ng DBM sa amin ay it is subject to the approval of the Office of the President.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004006

Okay.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004007

So that's now the status, sir?

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004008

Yun po ang...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004009

Ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004010

Ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004011

Yun po ang status at nagaantay po kami ng downloading.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004012

Okay.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004013

Any...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004014

Ah...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004015

Assistance po na pwede po namin may tulong ni...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004016

Kung ano na yun...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004017

Si...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004018

Si Mayno...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004019

Siguro...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004020

Magtulong-tulong na lang po tayo para ma-realize na at inaantay na po namin...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004021

Opo.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004022

Actually, as in fact, nung ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004023

Ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004024

Budget hearing ng DBM, ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004025

Kausap ko po si Kong Nonoy.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004026

Okay.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004027

At in-explain niya po kay ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004028

DBM Secretary kung ano po yung ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004029

Sitwasyon.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004030

At ah...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004031

I believe nakakuha naman po siya ng assurance kay DBM Secretary that gagawan po ng approvals

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004032

at soonest possible time.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004033

Okay.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004034

Maraming salamat po, ah...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004035

Sir.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004036

Ah...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004037

Ito po ay ah...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004038

Composed of...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004039

I think...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004040

Six municipalities.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004041

Apo...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004042

Six municipalities.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004043

Ang magtatamasa po nito.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004044

Apo.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004045

Six municipalities.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004046

Six to seven municipalities.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004047

Apo.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004048

It's not just Gihuan alone.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004049

Apo.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004050

Sa Eastern Summer po, it is a lone district.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004051

Lone district po ito pero merong southern part, merong northern part.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004052

Yung northern part naman po, nandun po sila...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004053

Yung lugar nila Mayno, nila Congrufus, dun po yung area na yun.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004054

So, yung whole...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004055

Almost whole ng southern part meron southern part.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004056

Yung northern part naman po, nandun po sila...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004057

Yung lugar nila Mayno, nila Congrufus, dun po yung area na yun.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004058

They are in the place of Mayno, in Lacong Rufus.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004059

That is the area.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004060

So, almost the whole of the southern part will be covered by the 69KV line, the upgrade here.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004061

And this is the big problem in the province of Eastern Samoa.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004062

That is right.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004063

And the truth is, we cannot give, there are still many people without electricity in that place.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004064

And we cannot give the right amount of money because it will only add to the system's loss.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004065

Because the line of the topping point is very small.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004066

That is the situation in Eastern Samoa.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004067

Thank you, Admin Nani.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004068

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004069

The last question is for Nea.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004070

In the northern part, we have the 128KV line, the upgrading as well.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004071

Hopefully, it will be given.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004072

Maybe, after 69KV line or next year, there will also be an upgrading there.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004073

But the cover here, where we have low voltage, I think there are three, four municipalities only.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004074

But in the northern part, that is the 128KV line.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004075

Thank you for the last question and that is the last answer.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004076

Mr. Chair, regarding the northern part, I talked to GM Bong Aman.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004077

I talked to the chairman of ISA Melco.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004078

Yes.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004079

He put it in priority and used his RFSC, the Redvestment Fund for Sustainable CapEx,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004080

to immediately add the upgrading to this place.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004081

Thank you so much, sir.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004082

To Madam Secretary, perhaps you can assist us and then you can...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004083

Yes, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004084

I will ask also Transco to study the transmission lines there.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004085

Yes, definitely, they will visit Minority Leader.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004086

Correct.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004087

Just one last question.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004088

One last question for the NEA and one and last question for the ERC.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004089

I just heard one and two last questions, sir.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-004090

Just for the NEA, sir.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004091

I will allow it.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004092

Just give me five minutes.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004093

I still have, I think, two minutes.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004094

No, it's not enough.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004095

Well, to the ERC, last August 5 of 2026,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004096

it was raised by Kong Dagooc.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004097

With regard, Kong Dagooc and Kong Libanan.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004098

This is with regards to the LLCC, Line Loss Congestion Charges.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004099

And the hardly affected here is Region 6 and Region 8,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004100

the Region 8 where the Eastern Summer is in contact.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004101

My question is,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004102

on August 13, if I'm not mistaken,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004103

who spent...

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004104

I mean, on August 5, when it was raised by Kong Dagooc and Kong Libanan,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004105

there was a suspension after eight days,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004106

the ERC, in collecting the LLCC.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004107

So, meaning to say, if it is August 5,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004108

most likely the following week,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004109

there was an issue, the ERC, to suspend the collection.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004110

But, I have here,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004111

I have here a paper, a letter coming from Independent Electricity Market Operator,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004112

dated August 25 of 2026.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004113

I'm asking again,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004114

my one email,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004115

of the Line Loss Congestion Charges.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004116

Can you please enlighten us, why it happened?

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004117

Can you explain to us, why it happened?

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004118

Who spent August 5?

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004119

August 5 was raised, after eight days,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004120

there was a suspension of the ERC,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004121

but still,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004122

the ISAMELCO

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004123

of the LLCC was still being sued.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004124

And then, automatically,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004125

the general manager

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004126

of the ISAMELCO

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004127

objected the letter.

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004128

I just need to clarify,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004129

to be clarified with this, sir,

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004130

to the ERC.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004131

The...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004132

The order that we issued, August 13, 2026,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004133

calls for the suspension of the imposition of line rentals,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004134

whenever the condition that we saw would exist,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004135

and that is the condition where there is congestion in the interconnection,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004136

in the major interconnection between Visayas and Mindanao.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004137

But for all other trading intervals,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004138

it is normal for the price to come out

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004139

and it is correct to say that...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004140

allocation of NSS

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004141

so tuloy pa rin po

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004142

yung imposition

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004143

o yung pag-consider

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004144

ng line rental

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004145

during those trading intervals

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004146

so I'm not so sure lang po

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004147

if dito sa

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004148

case ng

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004149

Isamelco

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004150

if totally

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004151

ay hindi na niya

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004152

binayaran yung

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004153

line rental

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004154

so we will look into that

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004155

and then

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004156

titignan din po natin with the IMOP

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004157

kung anong magagawa para

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004158

hindi naman na

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004159

kung medyo mataas yung cap dapat bayaran

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004160

ng Isamelco para hindi

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004161

naman na isang bigla

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-004162

ang pagbabayad nila

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004163

yung question kasi

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004164

dito

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004165

nag-issue na kayo ng suspension

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004166

sinabi niya na sa kanila

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004167

bakit

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004168

ito yung date nila

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004169

tapos na ito

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004170

yung kumbaga tapos na ito pag-usapan

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004171

what I'm trying to say here is

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004172

seryusohin po natin

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004173

please call their attention

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004174

kailangan po ito

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004175

lalong-lalo na po sa mga taga-region

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004176

ikagaya namin na napakamahal

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004177

ng kuryente, I know, hindi lang po sa amin

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004178

maraming

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004179

cases po dito na

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004180

nagre-reklamo

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004181

yung pagkamahal ng kuryente

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004182

sa eastern summer po as far as I know

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004183

nakabawas na po ng 150

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004184

pero not good enough

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004185

not good enough para po dito

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004186

please lang po sa ARC

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004187

please take a look at this and then

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004188

makita po at maramdaman po ng kababayan natin

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004189

nagtutulongan po yung gobyerno

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004190

Mr. Chair, we will look into that

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004191

and we will resolve the issue

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004192

okay, that would be all

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004193

mr. chair, madam secretary, salamat po

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Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales

asr-004194

mr. chair, madam secretary, salamat po

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004195

okay, thank you, congressman Gonzales

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004196

next from the

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004197

majority, congressman Gil Acosta

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004198

okay, thank you, congressman Gil Acosta

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004199

okay, thank you, congressman Gil Acosta

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Rep. Gil "KabarangayJr" Acosta

asr-004200

bakit pangunah?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004201

wala, si congressman Gil Acosta

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004202

wala, si congressman Gil Acosta

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004203

next, from the majority, congressman Salvador Plato

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004204

next, from the majority, congressman Salvador Plato

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004205

thank you, Mr. Chair

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004206

magandang

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004207

kompo, madam secretary

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004208

at ang pamilya ng DOE

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004209

sekretary gallinata

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004210

hindi na po natutulog

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004211

mr. chair

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004212

mayroon lamang po akong katanungan tungkol sa

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004213

mayroon lamang po akong katanungan tungkol sa

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004214

renewable energy program

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004215

renewable energy program

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004216

particular sa solar energy acceleration na tutugon sa ating pangangailangan ng alternative energy source.

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004217

Sabi kasi ni Secretary Francisco Laurel na may proposal siya ng geopensing around 3 million hectares of flat agricultural land,

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004218

particularly rice-producing areas, to protect prime prime land as the Philippines accelerates its shift toward renewable energy

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004219

and prepares for the next Green Energy Auction or tinatawag natin GEA.

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004220

Secretary Green, how will the DOE meet its National Renewable Energy Program or tinatawag natin in RIP capacity targets for 2027?

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004221

Kung ang significant portion ng plant ground mounted solar projects ay nare-restrict due to the Department of Agriculture's geopensing,

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004222

ang criteria. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004223

Yes, sir. We've had a discussion already with the DA Secretary, but Yusek Ibarra can answer the question, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004224

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004225

Yun pong mga solar power plants natin, required po silang magpakita ng proof of possessory rights.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004226

Ngayon po, una, bawal magtayo ng solar sa mayroong tubig, irrigation. Bawal po yan.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004227

Rice fields po, may irrigation. So, hindi po talaga kasama yan.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004228

Sa ngayon po, wala naman po kaming developer na nagsasabi na tatamaan sila noong agri-fencing na gagawin ng Department of Agriculture.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004229

So, hindi po kami nagtatayo ng planta doon sa pwede pong gamitin for productive agricultural activities. Thank you, po.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004230

Sir, I just want to add also.

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004231

Okay, sure.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004232

Meron din. Tama naman ginagamitin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004233

Ito ang gawa ng DAA. Pero we also go around to the LGUs.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004234

Ang pinopropose namin din sa kanila, they can actually issue ordinances na i-limit din nila para hindi affected yung food production nila.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004235

They can do that also on their own. Kasi kahit mabigyan namin yan ng kontrata, dadaan pa rin naman yan sa LGU at kailangan nila ng permit from the LGU.

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004236

Thank you, Secretary, for that response.

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004237

Sa ilalim po kasi ng pinagsamang Farm to Energy Framework, anong bahagi ng allocation, yung allotment nyo ng DOE para sa 2027, ang direktang sumusuporta sa pag-uugnay ng mga suppliers ng renewable energy sa ilalim ng Green Energy Option Program or DOP upang mapababa ang halaga ng karyente para sa patubig, cold storage at mga pasilidad para sa post-harvest.

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004238

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004239

Mr. Chair, meron po tayong Green Energy Option, GOP. Meron din po tayong ARCOA, Retail Competition and Open Access.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004240

Yung po sa Retail Competition and Open Access, last June 26 po, ibinaba po ng ERC to 100 kilowatts ang threshold.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004241

Yung naman pong Green Energy Option, binaba po ng DOE to 50 kilowatts.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004242

Ngayon po, pag nasa isang prangkisa lang lahat ng mga under sa Department of Agriculture,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004243

nilang mag-avail noong tinatawag na Retail Aggregation Program.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004244

Pag pinagsama-sama mo sila, aabot na po sila doon sa threshold nitong Retail Competition and Open Access sa CAGIO.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004245

Pwede na po silang pumili kung sino po yung magiging supplier nila na renewable energy.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004246

And as nasabi ko po kanina, mas mura po ang renewable kesa sa coal, for example.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004247

So, pwede po mapababa ang presyo ng kuryente nila.

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004248

Salamat, Rep. Rima.

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004249

Mr. Chair, Madam Secretary, on this note, this representation fully supports the approval of the DOE's 27th Proposal Budget.

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004250

At baka pwede natin tagdagap pa. Kasi nakita ko naman, kaya paano siya nabagtrabaho eh.

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004251

Totoo po ito. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004252

Mr. Chair, I just wanted to add on the threat of energy on food security.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004253

Meron po kami ginagawa.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004254

Gagawa ngayon ng mga bagong green energy auction na ang gusto sana namin eh pag nagpatayo itong mga auction,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004255

mag-solar farm ka pero mag-tanim ka sa ilalim ng, mag-farm ka sa ilalim talaga ng vegetables or kung ano yung products.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004256

Also sa canals ng NIA or sa mga fishponds.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004257

We're talking to, we're talking to DA already pa na yung design siya at saka sino yung mga beneficiaries.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004258

Pero we're working on it and I think your province can benefit.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004259

So much on that.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004260

Kasi hindi kailangan mag-agawan eh.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004261

Pwede namang sabay sila na ipatayo.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004262

Mr. Chair, thank you.

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Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto

asr-004263

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004264

Okay, thank you, Congressman Plato.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004265

Next, from the minority, Congressman Antonio Tino.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004266

Okay, next again from the minority, Congressman Stephen James Tan.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004267

Thank you and good afternoon, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004268

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004269

Especially to Secretary.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004270

And to the rest of the DOE family.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004271

Anyway, first of all, Secretary, I just wanted to follow up.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004272

There was a proposal for the solar plant that I believe mga 16, we're targeting 16 barangay.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004273

Kumbaga ito na yung last na mga barangay na wala talagang kuryente.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004274

Pero it is quite difficult lang na ma-reach.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004275

Through sa normal na line.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004276

So that's why we have proposed that off-grid yung gamitin na solar power plant.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004277

However, upon checking, it was approved na sa technical design but we are still waiting for the funding.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004278

So may I ask if this will be included for the 2027 budget?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004279

Mr. Chair, the electrification of off-grid.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004280

Well, not off-grid.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004281

Yung mga malalayo.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004282

I think it's still not off-grid pero it's really far na hindi naaabot ng linya.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004283

I think Admin Nani has a program for this.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004284

And if you can, Admin Nani of NEA, they have a program for this and they can possibly include your area for this.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004285

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004286

Sir, let me check on my...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004287

On my records, Mr. Chair, if the site that is the subject site being mentioned here is already evaluated for the installation of the photovoltaic mainstreaming,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004288

the use of the solar home systems for the unserved and viable areas.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004289

Thank you.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004290

Can you check, please?

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004291

Yes.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004292

Yes.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004293

Please, Mr. Chair, I believe approved na rin ito pa na I was able to talk to your office that there was an approved design.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004294

So maybe we can facilitate na lang this one for the coming 2027 budget.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004295

I think it's under the implementation of the...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004296

No, no.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004297

Best...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004298

Under the TEP funding.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004299

Yes, Mr. Chair, we'll just talk to the good congressman so that we can have more details and we'll follow through with the funding, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004300

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004301

And secondly, Mr. Chair, I would like also to raise a concern in one of the islands in my district.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004302

As of the moment, may genset sila na capable of providing 24 hours na kuryente.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004303

But however, we really lack the fuel allocation.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004304

So I believe, alam ko naman marami kayong problema nito.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004305

Maybe we can resolve this in the coming budget cycle.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004306

Mr. Chair, can we know the name of the island?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004307

Anong isla siya, sir?

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004308

I will submit you a letter later, Madam Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004309

Maybe Pres. Coco Nograles can check on it if it's a SPAG area, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004310

And then we can redesign so that less dependence on diesel also would help.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004311

Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004312

And Mr. Chair, I just wanted to seek guidance also from kay admin siguro.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004313

In terms of the...

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004314

Because in Samalcoan, we were very...

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004315

aggressive in the widening,

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004316

considering that the national highways being...

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004317

naging prioritized ni Presidente at ni Secretary Vince Dizon

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004318

to really widen the road.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004319

However, it was estimated like 50 million yung cost of the poles na marire-remove

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004320

and marire-relocate.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004321

So as of the moment, I believe the Samalcoan has already spent like 13 million.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004322

So parang tumigil na sila dahil since 2023 pa, hindi siya nababayaran.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004323

So ano kaya ang maganda natin gawin dito po?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004324

Mr. Chair, Kong, I believe me and the Secretary will sit down with Secretary Vince Dizon

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004325

on September next week, no?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004326

Nakipag-usap na rin po ako sa DPWH kasi marami na rin talagang utang ang DPWH

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004327

pole relocation.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004328

So during my last meeting with the USEC ni Conti,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004329

we requested an allocation of at least 300 million

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004330

to cover the pole relocation advances of the electric cooperatives.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004331

Kasi sa 2026 yata, 50 million lang na-allocate ang DPWH.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004332

But I'll take note of this, Mr. Chair,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004333

and on those...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004334

lane expansions, I'll make sure that it will be first among the list.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004335

Mr. Chair, the pole relocation funding is actually through the DPWH

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004336

and we have a MOA, no?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004337

With them, na kahit na yan na yung mag-implement, basta i-refund lang yung gastos.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004338

Thank you and good news siguro yun na at least ma-accelerate na natin.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004339

I will be coordinating with the office of the administrator

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004340

for the...

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004341

relocation of the poles.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004342

And,

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004343

Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004344

I would also like to raise an issue also.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004345

There is one barangay na very near lang sa mainland,

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004346

but however,

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004347

since bagyohin yung lugar namin,

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004348

parati siya napuputol yung...

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004349

natutumba yung pole.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004350

So if we can request that this island,

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004351

para hindi na siya nagparatay,

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004352

that constantly nagba-burnout,

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004353

kasi mga roughly 1.5 kilometers lang from the mainland,

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004354

baka pwede natin maging submersible,

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004355

is it possible po ba na may mga programa pa kayong na

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004356

ma-convert natin yung pole nila into a submersible nila

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004357

so that it will be more resilient sa mga typhoons?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004358

Yes, sir, it's possible.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004359

We just need to do a cost-benefit analysis.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004360

Baka naman continuing consumption tapos malaki yung investment.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004361

If it does not work, nalagyan natin ng submarine cables, then we can deploy a different technology in the area.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004362

We'll have it checked, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004363

We'll talk to your team para makuha lang namin yung mga pangalan ng area, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004364

Thank you.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004365

Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004366

And there is also a solar project in the Samalcoan that the European Union has donated, like roughly 60 million.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004367

So at least we get to enjoy na free na makatulong din siya na mababa na yung rate natin sa per kilowatt hour.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004368

But however, is it possible that we can waive the fees?

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004369

Kasi nagbabayad po yung Samalcoan.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004370

Ako din ng roughly 100,000 a month sa mga, although kahit libre lang na binigay yung,

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004371

dinonate lang yung, tawag nito, solar plant.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004372

But however, medyo nagsisingil din yung DOA.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004373

Is it possible po ba na we can waive?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004374

Sir, we'll have NEA check muna the status of the co-op.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004375

Yes, and then we'll work on it, Mr. Chair.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004376

Yeah, Mr. Chair.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004377

Maybe offhand, maybe I would suppose any collection or any spending should cover the operation and maintenance of the solar plant.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004378

But we will check on it, Mr. Chair Kong, on how to go about your request.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004379

Okay, and I would like also to check the status of the upgrading of the Luzon-Visayas transmission line.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004380

Because malaking tulong din ito to avoid power shedding in Region 8 and probably Region 6 also.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004381

Ito yung primary reason talaga na mayroon tayong MLD and mas higher na line rental.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004382

So probably the problem talaga yung NGCP that medyo ma-upgrade talaga nila yung transmission line nila the soonest possible time.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004383

But however, per plan, it will be upgraded on 2032.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004384

Ano kaya yung possibility na it will be mas malapit pa, Madam?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004385

Thank you for the last question.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004386

Thank you for the question.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004387

We're trying to figure out the long-term solution for this.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004388

What we are working on today, we've finished Mindoro and Palawan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004389

We are doing a master plan for Visayas.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004390

The best solution for Visayas is for each island to be independent on their energy needs.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004391

Dapat ang base load, kung anumang kailangan nila, nandyan sa isla mismo.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004392

Hindi yung mag-i-import kapag galing Luzon or even from Cebu.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004393

So we are doing the analysis now.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004394

We're just trying to balance the cost per kilowatt as to what is needed to be constructed.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004395

It will be a long-term solution, but it is a solution, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004396

So, iniisa-isa namin yung isla.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004397

Major islands would be five.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004398

Panay, Negros, Cebu, Bohol, late summer.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004399

So, we can present it to the Honorable Congressman.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004400

Once we finish, give us one more month.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004401

Kasi kailangan namin isimulate at simulate.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004402

Because we cannot rely on the connection of Luzon to Visayas and Visayas to Mindanao all the time.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004403

It should just be a reserve.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004404

Kung kailangan, pwede tayong mag-i-import.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004405

But I think that is the best solution for all the islands.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004406

I mean, I'm from Panay and we pay about three pesos per four-line rental at one point.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004407

So, kailangan talaga may independence ang kada isa.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004408

So, we're doing the master plan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004409

And in due time, sir, we will present the solution.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004410

Yes, can this be submitted to the committee?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004411

Mga October, sir.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004412

Yes.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004413

Thank you, ma'am.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004414

And I think that's the last question.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004415

But may yung first question about the...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004416

Island.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004417

I would like to recognize si Koko.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004418

President Koko, nag-release to answer.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004419

Hindi ata nakasagot yun.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-004420

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-004421

Regarding the concern of the Honorable Tan,

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-004422

the island actually has sufficient generators and is operating at eight hours at the moment.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-004423

So, on the part of NAPO Corps, we commit to study the economics of it and try to increase it.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-004424

The current peak demand is 108 kilowatts.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-004425

So, pag-aralan po natin yun.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-004426

And kung kaya po ng MOE natin, then we will expand it para umunlad lalo yung inyong isla.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-004427

Salamat po, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004428

Thank you, Congresswoman President Koko.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004429

Thank you.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004430

And I agree also with the good Secretary that each region naman, like in Region 8, we have a geothermal source of energy.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004431

So, mas better siguro na we utilize the local source natin.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004432

So, anyway, thank you, Madam Secretary.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004433

Thank you.

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Rep. Stephen James T. Tan

asr-004434

Thank you, Mr. Chair, for the time.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004435

Thank you, Congressman Tan.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004436

Next, to interpolate from the majority, Congressman John Chan.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004437

Salamat po, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004438

And magandang hapon po sa inyong lahat.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004439

Hello po.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004440

So, may onting katanungan lang po ako na malapit po sa puso ko.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004441

So, yung pinakauna po ay tungkol po sa poverty rule.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004442

So, Madam Secretary, sa Special Provision No. 1 of the May chapter in Volume 3 of the very budget before this committee po,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004443

naka-direct po ang NEA to prioritize yung mga sityo where, quoting the provision,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004444

the absolute number of indigents and the incidence of poverty are high.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004445

So, as identified in the latest official poverty statistics of the PSA.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004446

So, yung mga statistics po, meron po tayo yung sa 2023 na full-year official poverty statistics,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004447

which count 1,735,690 poor Filipinos and 279,220 poor families in the Bicol region.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004449

So, so far, it's the largest absolute count of any region in the country.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004450

So, yung tanong ko lang po, how will the NEA apply Special Provision No. 1 in the 2027 rollout, Madam Secretary?

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004451

And of the sityos program for energization next year, how many are in the regions with the highest poverty counts po?

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004452

Thank you.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004453

So far, following that also, but also as a priority,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004454

one of the first instructions I've given to NEA is prioritize Mindanao, actually.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004455

It's one of the most in need, actually.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004456

But on the side of Bicol area, Admin can further explain.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004457

Thank you.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004458

Tama po yun.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004459

I was given direction.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004460

Hinahabol po namin ang Mindanao, especially on those geographically isolated and disadvantageous areas.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004461

And so far, majority of the funding of the SEP was dedicated for the island of Mindanao.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004462

However, dun po sa mga, especially on Region 5, meron din naman po.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004463

Medyo, hindi ko lang ko alam ang exact figures, but meron din nung allocation ng Kasoreko 1, 2, 3, and 4,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004464

and even especially Aleko, Albay.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004465

And we are trying to...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004466

stretch the limited funding, having as a national policy, habulin ho namin ang Mindanao.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004467

Because when I assume office, ang energization level po ng Mindanao is only at 75%.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004468

So, yun po ang aming hinahabol.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004469

That's why way back 2023, ang Luzon po ay nasa 95,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004470

ang Visayas ay nasa 94, pero we ended up at 89%.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004471

Only on the franchise areas of electric cooperatives because of Mindanao.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004472

So, nakita naman po namin, pinuntahan po namin yung mga areas na yan, talaga pong kailangan nila ng kuryente ron.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004473

So, wag po kayo magalala.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004474

At lahat po yan ay ginagawa namin ng plano sa yung tinatawag naming ELTER.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004475

Lahat po yan ay pinipili po namin talaga.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004476

Yung talagang matindi ang pangangailangan.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004477

Marami salamat po.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004478

Marami salamat po.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004479

Isa rin pong tanong po.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004480

Actually, natuwa po ako nakita na nung start of 2026, Secretary,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004481

nag-issue po kayo ng update dun sa ER 1-94

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004482

na in-upget po natin from 1% to 3% yung makukuha po ng mga geothermal, yung mga plants po,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004483

within the communities who are supposed to benefit from them.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004484

So, gusto ko lang po malaman, Secretary,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004485

mayroon po ba tayong...

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004486

...intention or plan in the future na mas palakasin po itong pataasin?

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004487

Kasi napansin ko po tuwing umiikot po ako sa Region 5,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004488

ang lagi po nila sinasabi ay nandito po sa atin ang mga geothermal plants,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004489

yung mga hydropower plants, pero bakit ang taas pa rin daw po ng kuryente sa kanila.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004490

So, yung isang gusto po nila mangyari sana ay mas mag-benefit po

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004491

pag nasa community nila yung mga ganong planta po.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004492

Yes, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004493

That's really the irony.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004494

Nakikita nila yung planta pero mga taas pa rin yung presyo.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004495

So, we've been working on several new guidelines or new circulars.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004496

First is increasing the benefits of the communities from 1 centavo, not 1%, 1 centavo per kilowatt

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004497

to 3 centavos.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004498

1 centavo before hindi nila pinapansin, ngayon 3 centavos pinapansin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004499

And then we've also loosened up the rules on how they will utilize.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004500

Okay.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004501

Ang second po, we have also revised the guidelines of the CSP na kung ang co-op na where the plant

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004502

is located should have the right of first refusal.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004503

Kailangan unahin siya.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004504

Asi po, baka pagalitan ako ng Congress Pandago kung ano ikaw na ginawa.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004505

And then on the CSP also, CSP is the...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004506

Atan?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004507

Competitive selection process.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004508

Competitive selection process, which is the bidding process.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004509

Atan?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004510

Competitive selection?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004511

bidding for new power.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004512

We've also added the clause

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004513

na kailangan,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004514

ang dapat na i-prioritize,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004515

o bigyan ng preference,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004516

are the plants that are closest

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004517

to the EU or the load center.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004518

So that should help also

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004519

the communities

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004520

lowering their rates

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004521

and also getting the benefits

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004522

of being the host community.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004523

In addition,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004524

because our team has been going around

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004525

all over the country,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004526

we've been trying to inform the LGUs

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004527

na pwede naman silang maglagay

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004528

ng sariling conditions

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004529

if they want to put it in their areas,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004530

like employment,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004531

ang resources na halimbawa,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004532

materials that is sourced dyan sa loob nila,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004533

or even the,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004534

the community service

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004535

that they need to do.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004536

So we've been trying indirectly

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004537

so that they can get benefits.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004538

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004539

Kong, can I just interject lang?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004540

Yes, please.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004541

CSP kasi na pag-usapan

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004542

kasi yung iba,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004543

minsan pinapalampas yun

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004544

para negotiated contract na lang.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004545

So,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004546

marami pa bang ganon

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004547

na negotiated contract na lang?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004548

Minsan sinasadya eh.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004549

In relation lang.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004550

Sorry, Kong.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004551

Yeah.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004552

Yes.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004553

Mr. Chair,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004554

Sec, if I may.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004555

Lately, we are aggregating already

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004556

the baseload requirement

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004557

of Luzon and Visayas ECs.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004558

We just concluded

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004559

aggregating the Luzon and Visaya

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004560

co-ops baseload requirement.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004561

So, there'll be some economies of scale there.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-004562

So, yun ho, anong nyayari ngayon?

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004563

Okay, thank you.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004564

Thank you, sir.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004565

Thank you, po.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004566

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004567

Thank you, Secretary.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004568

So, actually,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004569

isa po sa na-excite po ako

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004570

nung nabasa ko po yun

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004571

sa Philippine Energy Plan before

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004572

was meron po tayong plano

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004573

na palakasin po

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004574

ang offshore wind energy

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004575

in the Philippines.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004576

And based on the

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004577

Philippine Energy Plan,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004578

I remember reading

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004579

that it will comprise

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004580

a huge bulk of our energy supply

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004581

by 2040, I think, Secretary.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004582

But correct me if I'm wrong, po.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004583

So, Madam Secretary,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004584

based po doon sa

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004585

own planning documents po

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004586

ng Department of Energy,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004587

actually, 21 gigawatts po

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004588

by 2040,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004589

supplying about 21%

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004590

of the country's electricity.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004591

So, the department,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004592

the PNOC po,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004593

and the ports authority

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004594

have been doing the work

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004595

of readying the land,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004596

yung mga port works,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004597

rehabilitation plans,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004598

tenure and ports for the program.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004599

So, yung gusto ko lang po malaman,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004600

yung 21% po ba

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004601

na kuryente po natin

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004602

na manggagaling sa offshore wind

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004603

by 2040,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004604

does it still stand

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004605

as the administration's

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004606

working target, po?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004607

The percentage,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004608

I cannot confirm,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004609

but yes,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004610

that we are pushing

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004611

for offshore wind.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004612

Right now,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004613

we even have

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004614

we even have

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004615

an offshore wind

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004616

auction that will be

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004617

explained also by

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004618

Yusef Guevara in a while.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004619

Pero,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004620

I just want to do

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004621

a caveat lang

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004622

because recently,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004623

the past six months,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004624

post the PEP

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004625

that you have read,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004626

Mr. Chair,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004627

we are doing another simulation.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004628

So, we will come out with it

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004629

siguro at the end of the year,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004630

yung final na naman na

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004631

bagong mix,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004632

but still included

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004633

yung offshore wind na doon.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004634

Yusef Guevara,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004635

if you can explain

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004636

our program on...

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004637

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004638

Yun pong ating offshore wind

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004639

green energy auction

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004640

ongoing for 3,300 megawatts.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004641

Ang maganda lang po kasi

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004642

sa offshore wind,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004643

mataas...

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004644

yung capacity factor niya compared

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004645

kunyari sa solar. It's more than

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004646

twice of solar.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004647

So, tapos kailangan pong

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004648

mag-umpisa na tayo yung mag-invest sa

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004649

offshore wind para ma-realize

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004650

natin yung pagbaba ng presyo.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004651

Pag lalo mo ginagamit yung technology,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004652

parang solar, we started

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004653

with 9 pesos 68 centavos

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004654

in 2015. It went

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004655

down to mga 350, 450

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004656

na lang ngayon. So, we

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004657

expect ganyan din pong mangyari

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004658

sa offshore wind. Yung pong porsyento

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004659

niya sa ating renewable energy,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004660

as na-mention po ni Secretary,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004661

pwede pong magbago. Kasi nagsimulate

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004662

kami para siguraduhin na yung

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-004663

presyo po ay kaya po ng ating mga consumers.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004664

Thank you po, Secretary and USEC.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004665

So, yung next

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004666

question ko lang po is

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004667

what support does the

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004668

interagency work need in this budget po?

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004669

So, for the port works,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004670

yung kunyari sa

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004671

Jose Panganiban po and sa Mercedes,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004672

pati mo yung grid preparation

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004673

po sa funding

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004674

po nito. Kasi yung

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004675

worry ko lang po is magkaroon po tayo ng

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004676

redirection kung ano po yung

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004677

baka hindi po ma-prioritize yung offshore

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004678

wind. Very promising po na technology

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004679

po. Yes, sir. It's really

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004680

important that we start those projects,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004681

this administration, so for continuity

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004682

and but USEC Macordo can

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004683

further explain on this. Yes, Mr.

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004684

Chair, one of the most important

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004685

infrastructure needed for offshore wind are the ports.

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004686

To give, to

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004687

highlight, our existing ports,

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004688

maybe there are six to eight

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004689

tons per square meter, but an

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004690

offshore wind port requires about 30

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004691

tons per square meter. Sinasadya po talaga

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004692

yun. So, kasalukuyan,

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004693

Philippine Ports Authority,

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004694

you see, we have this

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004695

greenfield port

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004696

in Pambuhan.

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004697

The bidding, the opening bids was

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004698

conducted already last February, and

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004699

then there's a commitment for

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004700

this to be completed by

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004701

fourth quarter of 2027

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004702

or the first quarter of 2027.

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004703

There is a second port,

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004704

and that is the port of Santa Clara

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004705

in Batangas.

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004706

So, right now,

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004707

the FS of the

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004708

Philippine Ports Authority is to be completed,

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004709

and after that, we are expecting

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004710

the opening of bids by

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004711

the third quarter for the construction

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004712

of the Santa Clara port, this time

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004713

using the PPP mode

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004714

of construction. There is a third

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004715

priority port, and that

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004716

is the Curimau port. However,

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004717

the port in Curimau is

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004718

signed for the floating offshore wind.

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004719

And since this Green Energy

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004720

Auction 5 is

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004721

dealing mainly

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004722

with

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004723

fixed bottom offshore wind,

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004724

so the third port

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004725

of Curimau

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004726

will not be contracted by the

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004727

PPA for this administration.

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DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo

asr-004728

That's what we share.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004729

Actually, yun naman po

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004730

ang itatanong ko, and marami salamat po

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004731

sa pag-consider din po sa

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004732

KNA administration.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004733

Yung pag-consider po sa off-grid

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004734

na islands, dahil someone from Rapu-Rapu,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004735

very important sa akin,

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004736

na even our constituents

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004737

from off-grid islands are still

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004738

well taken care of. So, marami salamat po.

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Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan

asr-004739

Thank you, and Mr. Chair, salamat po.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004740

Thank you, Congressman San.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004741

Napakaganda na mga katanungan nyo.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004742

Very educating. Very good.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004743

Magaling

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004744

talagang uragon.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004745

Yes, from the minority,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004746

we have Congressman Tino.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-004747

You have the floor, sir.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004748

Thank you, Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004749

Pagbati po sa...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004750

You have about 10 minutes or that.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004751

Thank you. Pagbati po sa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004752

classmate ko sa Kongreso, si Secretary

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004753

Garin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004754

Una, tungkol sa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004755

system loss.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004756

So, inanunsyo ng Pangulo,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004757

tanggalin na raw ang system loss.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004758

Ang nangyari? Ano yung nangyari dito?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004759

Sa totoo lang,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004760

pagkatapos ng

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004761

zona, parang ang dating pa, yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004762

DOE pa po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004763

ang bumabawi at sinasabing

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004764

hindi basta-basta ma-implement

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004765

ang system loss. So, what is the status?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004766

Malino na po yung direktiba

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004767

tanggalin ang system loss.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004768

Bakit parang hindi pa nangyayari ito?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004769

Thank you.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004770

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004771

As we showed

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004772

in the slide earlier,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004773

system

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004774

loss has two

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004775

parts. There's the non-technical

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004776

and technical. Now,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004777

to focus on the non-technical,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004778

eto po, we already have

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004779

a plan. It's not na hindi na binabawi

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004780

namin or we are

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004781

not

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004782

following the directive.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004783

It's just we needed time to make

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004784

the proper assessment. Kasi hindi siya

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004785

instant. Hindi siya yung sasabihin

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004786

lang ng ERC from one day to another

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004787

na zero na siya kaagad. Because it will

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004788

take time. Kasi we have

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004789

co-ops that we have to balance na

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004790

kailangan ready sila na maging zero siya.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004791

So, we have four

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004792

phases for this. Every phase

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004793

will remove 25%, 25%

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004794

for phases until

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004795

we have zero. And what do we have to do

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004796

for the non-technical?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004797

We have already identified

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004798

we've done a GAN chart on this

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004799

para ischeduled

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004800

at sining responsible. For example,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004801

we've done, we have

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004802

a joint project with DICT

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004803

for EGO para may reporting

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004804

ng pilferage. We have

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004805

consumer education and IEC.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004806

We have

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004807

we have

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004808

drafting a MOA

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004809

with the ILG so that we can

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004810

work with the police together

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004811

with the PNP together with

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004812

the NEA for the enforcement of anti-pilferage.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004813

Ang billing and collection

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004814

efficiency, kailangan ayusin

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004815

ng mga EC. Marami pa, no?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004816

I don't want to

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004817

prolong this. Pero, eto po yung phases.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004818

And then, it will also take

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004819

some budget.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004820

Kailangan may budget

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004821

para ma-implement ng maayos ng mga EC

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004822

natin. And what we

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004823

don't want is maburden

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004824

pabalik ang consumers.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004825

So, that is something

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004826

that we are trying to figure out on how

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004827

to fund this para

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004828

hindi po ibalik rin sa mga

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004829

consumers. Nababayagan din nila yung nabawas.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004830

Tama. So,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004831

we're working with NEA and their

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004832

consultants on this para matuloy

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004833

siya. So, the objective

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004834

of the non-technical is really

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004835

zero yan dyan. So, sa technical,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004836

this

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004837

needs a more detailed or

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004838

in-depth assessment. Kailangan talagang

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004839

mag-submit ang mga

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004840

electric co-ops, especially electric

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004841

co-ops, ng optimal

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004842

ano ba tawag doon?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004843

Optimal

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004844

distribution development plan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004845

Kailangan kasi yung ibang linya

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004846

palitan para

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004847

walang friksyon.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004848

Kailangan yung ibang transformers, mga

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004849

metro nila, kailangan palitan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004850

So, we will await for that.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004851

They need six months. We have

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004852

made a consultation, mga six months.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004853

Na matapos ng kada EC

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004854

ang plano nila.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004855

And the same objective

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004856

is to bring it down to

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004857

zero or near to zero, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004858

Let me just digest the answer.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004859

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004860

system laws, technical,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004861

non-technical. Yung non-technical,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004862

yun yung pilferage.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004863

Now, let me point out

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004864

that 1994 pa po,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004865

yung Republic Act

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004866

ano nga ba to?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004867

Oh,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004868

1832, the Anti-Pilferage

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004869

Act, Section 10.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004870

Nakalagay na po roon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004871

may mandato na po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004872

Rationalization of system

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004873

losses by phasing out of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004874

pilferage losses as a component

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004875

thereof. So, 1994 pa po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004876

sinasabi, tanggalin na at least yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004877

tinatawag na non-technical

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004878

sa system laws, tapos sinisihil.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004879

So, 1994 pa yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004880

Correct. 2026 na tayo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004881

At ang sinasabi nyo, yung non-technical,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004882

gano'ng katagal po?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004883

Non-technical?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004884

Pilferage.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004885

Four phases, maximum would be one year,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004886

Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004887

One year. So, yung atas ng Pangulo,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004888

2027 pa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004889

ma-implement.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004890

Before the next SONA.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004891

Before the next SONA. Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004892

Yung technical, yun ba yung kailangan

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004893

pa ng budget?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004894

Yun po ba?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004895

We need, Mr. Chair,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004896

we need to see,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004897

the optimization, optimal plan nila muna

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004898

bago kami mag-decide on this

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004899

because we don't want to,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004900

you cannot just rush this eh.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004901

Kailangan talaga aral ito kasi very

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004902

technical siya.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004903

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004904

But yun ba yung pinakita nyo kanina?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004905

You propose a budget of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004906

7.5 billion

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004907

over four phases

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004908

para ma-tanggal

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004909

ang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004910

this is a technical system loss.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004911

Is that correct?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004912

It's, it's for the non-technical.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004913

For the non-technical.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004914

I, I, I want to explain.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004915

The pilferage should be zero right away.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004916

Yes.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004917

Yun yung ano namin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004918

Yun yung, that's our, our idea na

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004919

dapat from day one, once we issue this,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004920

zero na siya kaagad.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004921

May mga non-technical na minsan nami-mix siya,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004922

kaya bantayan ng maayos ng DOE, NEA, and the electric co-op and ERC,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004923

ah,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004924

na namin-mix dyan sa non-technical,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004925

dapat bawal yan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004926

So, this is,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004927

this is for us to reinforce, no?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004928

Ah,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004929

now, the, the other side of it

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004930

is like, kailangan ang inefficiency

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004931

na kinukos, ang cost niya is non-technical.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004932

Yun yung mga kailangan ayusin yung mga linya

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004933

or yung mga metro nila.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004934

Ah, that will take some money.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004935

Like what they did in Zamboanga.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004936

For example, pinalitan lahat, naayos nila,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004937

nabawasan yung, nabawasan ang non-technical loss nila.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004938

So, that's, that's easier to implement.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004939

This will not be an additional budget, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004940

Ah, we will find a way how to assist the electric co-ops

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004941

without asking for, ah, from the National Fund, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004942

Could you elaborate on that?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004943

Kasi may pinakita kayo, 7.5 billion yung nandun,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004944

pero sinasabi niyo hindi manggagaling sa budget.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004945

Saan manggagaling ito?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004946

It could come from the cooperative itself.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004947

It could also come, because they have earnings na rin, ano?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004948

It could come also from a loan that, ah,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004949

we can facilitate.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004950

Ah, we are studying, still studying the, ah, several options.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004951

Ang, ang, the main point is, ah,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004952

dapat ang tao hindi nagbabayad pabalik nito.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004953

Yung binawas mo, hindi dapat bayaran nila ulit.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004954

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004955

Ah, thank you.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004956

So, pwedeng manggaling sa co-op, ah, pwedeng, sabi niyo, loan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004957

Ultimately, babayaran din yan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004958

So, yun nga ang concern.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004959

Siguro, mas, ah, ah, um,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004960

magsabit na lang in writing, mahirap ngayon, eh.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004961

Kasi nagtataka tayo, bakit kailangan ng 7.5 billion para ma-implement?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004962

Are you talking about yung mga co-op kailangan tulungan para mag-upgrade ng kanilang facilities?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004963

Is that it?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004964

Mr. Chair, ah, not necessarily.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004965

Some co-ops can, can afford to facilitate that also.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004966

But there are also a cluster of co-ops na medyo, medyo ailing na rin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004967

At baka hindi kaya.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004968

At baka hindi kaya.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004969

And that's where we come in also, Mr. Chair.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004970

That's a case-to-case basis.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004971

That's 130 co-ops na kailangan i-assess namin isa-isa, Mr. Chair.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004972

Plus the, ah, the private distribution utilities.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004973

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004974

Thank you, Chair.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004975

Another topic muna.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004976

Um, so, yung repeated yellow and red alerts, lalo na sa Visayas at Mindanao.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004977

Um, ano-ano po ba yung mga planta?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004978

Bakit po?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004979

Ano?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004980

At mukhang, ah, of course, the answer there is extended maintenance.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004981

Mga ganon.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004982

Down yung mga planta.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004983

Ano-anong mga generators ito?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004984

At anong ginagawa nyo para, ah, ma-address yung situation?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004985

Including possible, ah, penalties for these, ah, plants.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004986

No?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004987

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004988

Ah, ah, I'll, I'll have, ah, you should give her, ah, the, the two experts in the,

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004989

ah, on this and, ah, ah, ah, Usec, ah, Maracigan to, to address the issue.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004990

This is a very, very important issue.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-004991

Yes.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-004992

Yes.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-004993

Usec Maracigan, you are recognized.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-004994

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-004995

Well, first, let me, ah, let me present what the cases are in the Visayas, which is really

Source

DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-004996

the main concerns that we have at the moment.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-004997

For the Visayas, ah, it so happens that the planned maintenance happens at the site of

Source

DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-004998

our small facilities like biomass and hydropower generations.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-004999

We understand that summer, we are in the middle of the summer, so there is reduced water capacity.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005000

Plus, it's an out-milling season for biomass.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005001

So, reduced capacity.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005002

Unfortunately, aside from the planned maintenance program of some of our facilities, there was

Source

DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005003

a lack of water.

Source

DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005004

Ah, ah, ah, ah.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005005

Ah, ah, ah.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005006

So, we have a major incident that happened that two major units of coal facilities in

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005007

the Visayas gave way one after the other, belonging to the same company.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005008

And, ah, upon our discovery, the defect was on the manufacturing.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005009

It was the turbine rotor that had a major concern.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005010

And they had to ship out the turbine, ah, to be able to be repaired.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005011

We also lacked the capacity to test the energy.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005012

So, they sent it to India just for calibration.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005013

So, it took a while.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005014

But here, now and then, ah, since much of the facilities are being forced to run outside

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005015

their operating procedures, then one after the other, the other facilities gave way.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005016

Now, in the last month, it so happens that this, Big Danau also has a scheduled maintenance

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005017

program for some of their facilities.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005018

Ah, ah, ah.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005019

Ah, ah, ah.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005020

Ah, ah, ah.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005021

Ah, ah, ah.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005022

Ah, ah, ah.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005023

We are now providing additional capacities to Visayas to the tune of up to 450 megawatts.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005024

With the reduced capacity of the Visayas, the import from Big Danau was forced at full

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005025

450.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005026

Even Incluson is also assisting at 250 megawatts.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005027

Ah, ah, ah.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005028

Ah.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005029

Ah.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005030

Ah.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005031

the magnitude of the reduction in capacity.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005032

But with the scheduled maintenance program in Mindanao,

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005033

the transfer of capacity to Visayas is also reduced.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005034

Unfortunately, coinciding again, there were first outages also of other coal facilities in Mindanao.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005035

For the capacity for Visayas, poor Mindanao is further reduced to almost zero.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005036

That is the reason why currently we have red and yellow alerts for Visayas and a long yellow alerts for Mindanao.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005037

Now, what is the DOE doing?

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005038

First, we have already done the monitoring and assessment of each and every facilities because we have now a performance department circular assessing on the compliance and non-compliance of each generation facility.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005039

Of course, the penalty will not come from the DOE, but rather to be endorsed to the Energy Regulatory Commission.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005040

Also, since we recognize...

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005041

The difficulties we had in the Visayas, we have identified energy solution and that is providing battery energy storage system in the Visayas.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005042

So, we have identified up to 250 megawatts of battery energy storage that will support the auxiliary requirement for Visayas.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005043

Right now, some 150 megawatts of this 250 are already in place.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005044

And they are being tested at the moment.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005045

Hopefully, it is steering its commissioning.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005046

So, but in the meantime, we are also reviewing the possibilities of adding more auxiliary services for Visayas beyond what is required.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005047

Particularly on the disposable requirement.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005048

Because it happens that the requirement for Visayas...

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005049

In extended period has also affected Mindanao.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005050

Then, to support this as a long-term solution, when as mentioned earlier by Secretary Guerin, we are doing a master plan for the Visayas, including distributed energy generation to have each and every island of Visayas the full capacity to generate for itself.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005051

While still interconnected to provide common auxiliaries.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005052

So, those are the plans that we have for both Visayas and Mindanao.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005053

Thank you.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005054

Sir, this is not enough time to explain what you just said, right?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005055

But what is clear is that, in general, particularly in Visayas, now the bioethanol is down and the coal plants have problems.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005056

Mindanao is fast-growing, so it is already full.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005057

Is that right?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005058

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005059

Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005060

If I can answer that.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005061

Thank you, Gary.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005062

We have a long-term solution because there are already plants that we have identified, but putting up a coal power plant is minimum three years.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005063

Even gas is five years.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005064

The fastest solution is solar, but it can't be just solar because it's intermittent.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005065

So, batteries are our complement.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005066

So, IRIS is integrated with solar and batteries.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005067

That would be the fastest way.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005068

So, the long-term, we have plants that will come in.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005069

The earliest is 2028, and that will stabilize Visayas, bring in new plants with better technologies.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005070

Now, the short-term, that's what Yusef Mario is saying, that he will put batteries of about 200 to 300 megawatts,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005071

and that will have the yellow and red alert.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005072

It will decrease.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005073

But we need also the mid-term.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005074

The long-term solution is that we will put in barges or ramp up our diesel, our liquid fuel, while we wait for the long-term.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005075

Those are the solutions that we have seen, and we are already implementing.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005076

But it will take time, really, the solution that is long-term.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005077

Because, basically, our plants are old, and we don't have enough.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005078

And then, the renewable needs to be complemented with the batteries or whatever that will address the intermittence, like gas-fired power plants.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005079

So, this is something that happened just because of this time.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005080

It's been brewing for how many years already, and it will take us years also to fix it.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005081

But we're working on it already, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005082

Okay, in biomass, that's what you said first.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005083

Is that what depends on sugar?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005084

Is that what depends on sugar cane production?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005085

Ethanol?

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005086

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005087

They are depending on the bagas per generation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005088

Did you have any experience importing ethanol?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005089

Okay, this is a different view.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005090

Biomass is in the agricultural waste, and you turn it into energy.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005091

This is also seasonal, because it also depends on the harvest, right?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005092

What we're talking about, what you mentioned about the importation of biofuels and everything, that is biofuels, which is under USEC Sandy.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005093

The issue here is the competition between the domestic and the imported, right?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005094

In which we are not allowed to import unless we use up all the domestic, in which we are still complying with, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005095

My only point is, did the local production of bagas not reduce because more people imported?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005096

No.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005097

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005098

That's all.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005099

Mr. Chair, the importation of ethanol has no relationship because the bagas depends on the local agriculture, sugar cane plantation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005100

That's why, if you reduce the number of domestic buyers, the local production will be affected.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005101

It's not.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005102

The lack of bioethanol is in fulfillment with our current mandate on the use of biofuels.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005103

That's a different matter.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005104

It's not dependent on our local agriculture alone.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005105

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005106

You mentioned batteries as an interim solution.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005107

Where does the energy of batteries come from?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005108

I mean, you know, is it solar?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005109

How do they?

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005110

You charge the batteries. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. In the early morning, we have enormous

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005111

generation of solar. Besides solar, not necessarily; it's still from the grid

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005112

because these are ancillary services. So excess generation during the peak hour of renewables

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-005113

even if we have other generation

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005114

uh mr chair please

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005115

the highest in percentage in the energy mixing renewable at 45 percent

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005116

about 45 percent unlike the rest of the countries 25

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005117

i'm picking up visayas the peak of the mania

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005118

so that will help the yellow and red alert okay um

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005119

was recently in cebu

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005120

about an hour no anyway

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005121

dunsa mahabang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005122

another question

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005123

height of the energy crisis

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005124

bumili, nag-procure ng 20 billion worth of fuel ang directly

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005125

ang DOE

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005126

Ano na po nangyari dito?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005126-split-2

Thank you for that last question

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005127

Mr... please answer

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005128

...

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005129

Yes in fact

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005130

300 000 barrels one point something billion liters effectively among a five days

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005131

total country supply of

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005132

diesel

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005133

yung nabili ng

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005134

Nabili ng PNOC EC

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005135

mga days diesel supply

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005136

and uh as of now

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005137

merong portions na nabenta na to Napocor

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005138

and we are still because malabo pa rin yung situation we are still retaining some of those

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005139

supplies and then nasa isang private storage and that's why like i said earlier uh inumpisaan na

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005140

yung usapin at nagmungkahi na ng batas para sa SPR sa National Strategic Petroleum Research

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PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez

asr-005141

para ma-address yung mga ganitong mga pangyayari sa susunod na mga panahon kung mangyari pa ulit

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005142

okay thank you Usec, thank you Congressman Tinio

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005143

chair baka pwede magsubmit po ng report status ng five days worth or how many million barrels

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005144

yes you are directed to submit to this committee

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005145

Naka-store pa rin. Tapos sabi ninyo kasi, Chair, 10 minutes, pero hindi pala. May mga tanong pa tayo kaugnay sa nuclear at iba pa.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005145-split-2

Second round, sir. Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005146

We can submit by today.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005146-split-2

Thank you Cong Tinio

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005147

Next, from the majority, we have Congressman Jay Vergara. Oh, baby.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005150

Ah, magandang hapon po.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005151

Magandang hapon po.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005152

Para sa ERC po.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005153

Given the rise of rooftop solar adoption,

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005154

how does the ERC evaluate the impact of net-metering backfeed on technical system losses and what regulatory safeguards are in place

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005155

to prevent those associated costs from being shifted into non-solar consumers?

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005156

solar consumers.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005156-split-2

We're well aware, Mr. Chair, of

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005157

of that possibility as soon as there's enough solar rooftop installations

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005158

that are online in the distribution utilities network right now we're considering the

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005159

possibility of expanding our distributed energy resources and including as a part of

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005160

the installations that a dr user can install would be aside from the solar rooftop would be a

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005161

battery so

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005162

somehow this will ease the impact of solar exports to the distribution utilities

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005163

but we are well aware also that under the current rate setting methodologies as there are more and

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005164

more solar exports to the grid there will be cannibalization of the market of the distribution

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005165

utility and there may be also need to address the rate setting setting

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005166

as well as the technical aspect of the operations of the distribution utility

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005167

because there will be more and more exports to it of of uh intermittent energy and there might be

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005168

some impact already on the on the quality of its energy that is being supplied to its other customers

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005169

we're addressing this through further studies on what the distribution utilities will need

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005170

to prepare for and what possible amendments will have to be introduced once we are done

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005171

with the 2026 Philippine Grid Code.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005172

We intend to also revisit our current Philippine Distribution Code so we can provide for the

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005173

appropriate interconnection standards of these solar rooftops, especially those that are

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005174

bigger in capacity and will already be falling under the distributed energy resources category.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005175

The lines we have designed are the following.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005176

The line we have designed is that the current comes from the grid to the substation to the

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005177

transformer, to the consumer, one way only.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005178

My question is, are the lines that we have drawn in this system, will this not affect

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005179

the system loss that will increase?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005180

Our initial observation based on our discussions,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005181

our discussions with the Paris Distribution Utilities, the changes that we saw in our

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005182

systems from the wholesale down to the distribution level

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005183

ang pinaka

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005186

Critical would be the installation of the metering facilities

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005187

But insofar as the impact of these developments on system loss, considering that this exported energy will be consumed in that same vicinity,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005188

we foresee that the impact of the current lines that have been installed will be minimal aside from the fact that whenever there should be new solar facilities or rooftop facilities that are interconnected to the distribution grid,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005189

one of the requirements is the conductance.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005190

By the distribution utility of the distribution impact study, and that distribution impact study will be the opportunity for the distribution utility to evaluate the possible impact of that connection

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005191

and accordingly prescribe whatever will be needed to allow for that connection such as the installation of new metering facilities

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005192

or the distribution utility of the distribution impact study.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005193

Thank you.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005194

Or is there a refusal to connect, especially for those above the net metering threshold, unless certain investments will be made also by the intending customer that will connect a solar facility?

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005195

So, sa inyong buong palagay, hindi na kailangan baguhin ang sistema ng pag-generate ng kuryente.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005196

Okay.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005197

Sa...

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005198

Kasalukoy ang infrastruktura.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005199

Nagbabago na po talaga yung kompleksyon noong pag-generate ng kuryente.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005200

Dating centralized, highly centralized yung ating power system nang gagaling sa mga malalaking mga generation plants na nakakonekta sa transmission.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005201

Later on, nakita natin na yung mga ibang planta nag-e-embed na sa distribution network.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005202

At ngayon po ay nakikita natin na yung mga...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005203

individual na mga consumers mayroon ng kapabilidad na makapag-generate din para sa sarili nilang pangangailangan at makapagbenta rin, makapag-export.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005204

Kaya patuloy din po yung ginagawa nating pag-aaral kung ano ang dapat baguhin doon sa regulatory framework.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005205

Nabanggit ko nga po yung tungkol doon sa paniningil ng distribution charge ng distribution utilities.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005206

Maaring magkaroon nito ng impact dahil habang dumadami yung mayroong mga...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005207

generation facilities, nababawasan ng kilowatt-hour sales ang benta nung ating mga distribution utilities.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005208

At kaya kung ang kanilang revenue ay nakabase sa per kilowatt-hour, maaring mabawasan nito at magkakaroon sila ng mga stranded assets na kanilang pinut-up.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005209

Nag-tayo sila ng mga linya ng ganitong kalalaking mga kapasidad pero dahil nagkaroon ng mga pagbabago,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005210

kompleksyon doon sa ating...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005211

energy landscape at nagkaroon ng mas maraming distributed energy resources ay kinakailangan talaga ng pagbabago doon sa regulatory framework.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005212

Kasama na din po dyan yung pagre-rebisa bukod doon sa Philippine Green Code at yung distribution code.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005213

Yung mga pagre-rebisa ng mga interconnection technical standards, pagkakaroon din po ng regulatory framework pagdating sa battery.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005214

Kaya ito po ay tuloy-tuloy na pag-aaral.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005215

Kaya dapat tayo na tumigil lang at manatili doon sa nakagawian nung 10, 20, 30 years ago dahil nagbabago din po talaga ang landscape.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005216

Salamat po.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005217

So may technical study na po ba ang DOE o ERC hingginit sa net metering sa technical losses ng isang kooperatiba o ng isang distribution utility?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005218

Sa ngayon po.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005219

Hindi po po namin na-quantify kung mayroon talagang impact dahil we operated on the assumption that since itong mga export na ito will be consumed in the same area,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005220

datawid lang doon sa kapitbahay at hindi na masyadong magiging malaki ang dadaanan, maliit lang or if not, wala pa nga or positive pa ang impact dahil sa inbis na yung kuryente manggaling sa mas malayong lugar para supplyan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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Yung kapitbahay nung isang customer na naka net meter, yung kuryente yung ginamit niya ay nanggaling na lang doon sa kapitbahay na mayroong sobra or may export.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005222

Kung dudumihan ko o isip ko, kung ako ay ang 10 kilowatt ang kailangan ng aking bahay, kung gawin kong 25 dahil naging distribution utility na ako.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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Kung...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005224

kakayanin po nung inyong bubong, yung kapasidad na 25 kilowatt, samantalang ang inyong demand ay talagang masiservisohan lang ng 10 kilowatt, magdidepende na po yan kung ito ay naka net meter, magdidepende po nga yun yan doon sa pricing methodology.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005225

Ngayon, ang umiiral na pricing methodology, yung bayad sa iyo sa export mo ay equivalent doon sa average generation charge ng distribution utility.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005226

So, kung ang...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005227

Yung pagtatayo naman nung iyong kapasidad na 20 kilowatt, on a per kilowatt hour basis, mas mababa kaysa dyan sa pricing na lalabas based on that pricing methodology, maaring hindi siya economical na mag-put up ng kapasidad higher than your own requirement.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005228

But, kung like nakikita natin ngayon, pataas din ang trend ng generation charge.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005229

At pababa naman, ang pababa yung per kilowatt na cost ng pagtatayo ng solar, maaring ang makainggan yan ng mayroong magtatayo ng kapasidad higit doon sa kanilang pangangailangan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005230

At sa puntong ito, ang question is, mayroon pang question on the stranded contract cost ng distribution utility.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005231

Dahil maaaring kumontrata ang distribution utility ng katamtaman lang.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005232

Para doon sa pangangailangan ng captive customer niya, at dahil nga mayroon siyang mga customer na nagsipag tayo ng kanilang self-generation facility at mayroon pang benta, mayroon pang export,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005233

baka mga hulugan nito na magkakaroon siya ng mga kontratang pinasok na hindi naman niya magamit dahil kailangan unahin yung export ng net metering customer.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005234

So, kakailangan din talaga tingnan yung implementasyon, yung current implementation ng net metering.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005235

Kung hindi na yun makaka-apekto doon naman sa mga kontratang pinasok ng distribution utility para sa pagsisilbi sa kanyang captive customers.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005236

At ang isang pamamaraan dito ay kung ibubuksan yung net metering, hindi lang doon sa distribution utility, kumbaga, hindi lang yung distribution utility ang mamanduhan na bumili o kumuha noong kuryenting yun,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005237

kundi maaaring iba ring end user o retail electricity supplier ang kukuha o mag-a-aggregate nitong export na ito at ibibenta naman niya sa kanyang customer,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005238

be it the captive customer or be it the contestable customer or for its own use.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005239

So, tagal po nyo sa pagsisilbi. Bata pa po kayo, nakilala ko na po kayo, Chairman Juan.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005240

Meron po kayong sulat, System Loss Performance of Distribution Utilities, dated August 26, 2026.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005241

So, pinag-aaralan ko po ito at tinitinan ko.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005242

Kanina pa po pinag-uusapan, technical loss, dalawa yan, kasi hindi po maintindihan ng masang Pilipino.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005243

Ano ba talaga? Kasi napakaraming charges na nakalagay.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005244

Buhat nung iyan, bundle natin yung rate. Yun po ang malaking problema eh.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005245

Kaya minumura po lahat ng DEU at saka ng kooperatiba.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005246

So, hindi umalaman ng tao kung saan, kung bakit ganito kalaki.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005247

Samantalang generation cost ganito.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005248

Ang generation cost po ba ay merong system.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005249

System loss.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005250

Yun pong malalaki, yung generating corporation, naka-embed na po dyan yung cost ng transmission loss

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005251

na nai-incur sa pagsusupply mula sa generation plants na nakakonekta sa transmission

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005252

papunta doon sa kanilang distribution utilities.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005253

So, ang bayaran nila, yung presyohan yan, inclusive na doon sa cost ng transmission loss.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005254

So,

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005255

lahat po lumalabas, hindi lang utility, hindi lang Meralco, hindi lang kooperatiba,

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005256

hindi lang yung malalaking privado o kaya kooperatiba, ang may system loss charge.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005257

Opo, nag-i-incur ng transmission na system loss at may cost yan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005258

Mayroon din sa distribution level, may cost yan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005259

At ang recovery, pagdating sa distribution level na system loss,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005260

ito ay naka-reflect doon sa system loss charge.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005261

Dati, bago nung nag-unbundling, ito ay nagsisingil na rin.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005262

Kaya lang, ito ay nakapasok naman doon sa power purchase adjustment, yung PPA,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005263

noong bago tayo nagkaroon ng IPIRA at ng unbundling.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005264

Tama po.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005265

Kaya nga, hindi mo maaintindihan ang masang Pilipino.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005266

So, kailangan po kasi,

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005267

si Katari Karin,

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005268

at saka sa ERC po,

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005269

kailangan po talaga ng efektibong komunikasyon sa madlang Pilipino.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005270

Masang Pilipino.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005271

Na ito po ang problema.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005272

Ito yung charges, ito lang.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005273

Kesa yung napakarami pong charges sa isang bill na natatarantay tao,

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005274

hindi nila maalaman.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005275

Yes, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005276

At, Mr. Chair, we'll work with the ERC on the reformatting of the bill

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005277

para mas madaling maintindihan, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005278

We'll work on it.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005279

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005280

So,

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005281

hindi na po akong masasalta dahil maliwanag naman po na.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005282

At, alam ko pong capable ang ating sekretary at saka yung ating ERC Chair.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005283

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005284

Maraming salamat po sa inyo.

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Rep. Ed Christopher S. Go

asr-005285

Thank you, Representative Vergara.

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Rep. Ed Christopher S. Go

asr-005286

Now, we move to the recognize Sarah Elago

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005287

Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005288

Para po sa ERC, batay sa inyong ulat as of mid-August,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005289

may nasa 5,380 consumer complaints ng naisampas sa ERC ngayong taon.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005290

Mas malaki po ito kumpara sa 5,329 complaints noong 2025,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005291

at 3,220 complaints.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005292

189 naman noong 2024.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005293

Higit 4,000 naman po dito,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005294

o 77% ng complaints ngayong taon.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005295

Nangangalahati pa lang po tayo ngayong 2026

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005296

at tungkol po sa issue o concern na kaugnay sa serbisyo ko ng Meralco.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005297

Ano na pong status ng mga complaints na ito?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005298

May na-penalize na po ba ang ERC na electric power industry participant?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005299

At kung meron, nakabatay po ito sa anong grounds?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005300

Una po, lilinawin lang namin yung aming kategorya ng consumer complaints.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005301

Dalawang klase po kasi ang tinuturing naming complaints.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005302

One, yung informal na naisasampas sa amin sa pamamagitan ng email, walk-in, letter, o referral.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005303

Ito pong mga ganitong nature ng complaints,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005304

bago po siya talaga maging formal na complaint,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005305

ang aming ginagawa ay namamagdala.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005306

Pagitan kami between that consumer and the utility.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005307

Nang sa ganon ay kung magkakaroon ng solusyon or dispute resolution,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005308

ay magagawa nila at their level.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005309

So, ang karaniwan po na nakakarating sa amin ganitong sumbong reklamo

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005310

ay may kinalaman doon sa bill.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005311

Meron po na nagkukwestyon doon sa kanilang natanggap.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005312

At mayroon din naman po ng mga instances na lumalapit sumusulat sa amin.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005313

Ang kadahilanan naman ay mayroong naging inspeksyon ang utility, ang Meralco,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005314

at sila ay nakitaan daw ng badges ng mayroong problema doon sa metro.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005315

Kaya hinatak yung metro.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005316

At ngayon ay sinisingil sila ng differential billing na malaki.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005317

So, sumusulat sila sa amin, pinagbibigay alam na ganito yung sitwasyon nila.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005318

Pagka ganito pong instances, pinapatawag namin o sinusulatan namin ang utility upang magkomento.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005319

At nakakaroon ng mga conciliation hearings or conferences between the consumer complainant and the utility representative.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005320

Kung wala pong maging resolusyon doon sa kanila pong reklamo, amin pong ina-advise sila na gawing formal na yung complaint sa pamamagitan ng pagpa-file ng formal complaint.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005321

This is a verified complaint, kaparehan ng mga complaint na ipina-file sa mga regular courts.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005322

Pero ginagamitan po namin ito ng summary procedure, nang sa ganun mabilis lang din po.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005323

Kapag na ito na po ay na-transform into a formal complaint, ang turing na po namin dito ay isang proceeding na nangangailangan ng pag-exercise ng quasi-judicial jurisdiction or authority ng ERC.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005324

Kaya sa pagdating sa ganitong proceeding, magkakaroon ng pre-trial conference, tapos presentation of evidence through judicial affidavits,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005325

o pamisan, nakakaroon din ng formal trial.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005326

Doon po sa dami ng 5,000, [unclear]. Sa ngayon po, as of the latest, ang ongoing po na consumer complaint namin sa pagdating sa Meralco ay nasa 3,657 na.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005327

Ito po yung mga informal or letter complaints.

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ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro

asr-005328

Ito po yung mga 629 na clause and termination.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005329

Yung pong kabuuan of the letter complaints that we received for 2026, 629 na po yung aming naisara.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005330

Ibig sabihin, nagkaroon na ng maayos na usapan o resolusyon yung complaint na yan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005331

Yung formal complaint.

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ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro

asr-005332

It's formal complaint.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005333

Pero yung pong mga hindi na nagkaayos,

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ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro

asr-005334

This one, 2026 po.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005335

Pagdating po,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005336

Combined po yun, sir.

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ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro

asr-005337

Combined.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005338

Ah, sir?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005339

Combined po. 27 lang po.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005340

Ong going po natin.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005341

It's 51, pero combined, insist po, kasi ito siya.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005342

Oo.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005343

Sa mga distribution utilities, lahat na po, ang ongoing lang sa amin ay 51.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005344

Yes, sir.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005345

51 po na kaso para sa 2026.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005346

Sir, can you submit that data to this committee, please?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005347

Apo.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005348

We will submit po.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005349

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005350

I will look forward to the ERC submission on this.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005351

I'd actually like to ask, sino po yung mga personal natin na in charge dyan?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005352

Paano ba natin mapapabilis yung disposition ng mga cases?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005353

Paano po natin mapapabilis yung pagsagot dito sa mga issues, concerns, complaints na nailalapit sa atin?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005354

Kasi nababahala po tayo, bagamat meron naman po tayong substantial number na rin ho,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005355

ng naisasara.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005356

Natutugunan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005357

Pero kung meron pang maibibilis, para matiyak po natin, agaran natin din na nasasagot kung ano man yung mga concerns

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005358

ng ating mga consumers pagdating ho dito.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005359

Mr. Chair?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005360

Mr. Chair?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005361

Hindi nakikinig.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005362

Mr. Chair?

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005363

Yes, ma'am.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005364

Mr. Chair?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005365

Ipa-plug-in ko lang, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005366

ERC actually...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005367

has added tasks and added work because of all the SONA directives, also the complaints,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005368

and with the oil crisis also, dumami talaga.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005369

Every year, there are more power plants to regulate, more distributional utilities and electric co-ops to regulate.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005370

Unfortunately, their budget request has been cut and hopefully the Congress can address that.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005371

So we can...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005372

They can have more...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005373

They can have more...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005374

They can have more personnel and more capacity in order to be faster in their responses.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005375

They're not part of the OE, but they are a regulator, but I think it's about time for them to have a...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005376

Medyo dagdag lang ng consultants and people also to help them with this, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005377

Mr. Chair, sige ho, maisumite na lang ng ERC yung kanilang original proposal for the personal services.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005378

Given the added tasks, syempre gusto naman natin maayos din ho yung compensation, matiyak ho yung...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005379

Karapatan, yung interest din ng lahat ho ng ating mga manggagawa at kapwa lingkod bayan sa pamahalaan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005380

Lalong-lalo na sa may napakahalagang gawain na tiyakin na wala hong abuso at wala hong kumbagang lumalagpas sa kung ano lang yung dapat

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005381

pagdating sa napakahalaga na utility na niregulate ho ng ERC.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005382

Ang ngayon naman ho, nais kong magtanong may mechanisms po ba yung ERC para ma-ensure yung...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005383

Implementation ng Meralco refund na matiyak ho natin na kapag may refund ho sila na matitiyak na matanggap ho ng ating mga consumers.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005384

E hindi naman ho ito maipapasa naman pabalik rin sa mga consumers sa mga susunod na panahon.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005385

Yes po, depending on the nature ng refund na iniimplementa ng Meralco, kung ito ay may kinalaman doon sa...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005386

Alimbawa doon sa...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005387

Pass-through charge niya, ito ay nire-reflect as a separate item.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005388

Kung ano yung alimbawa ay refund rate nakatumbas para doon sa over-recovery na yan, ito ay nakareflect yung refund rate na yan at yung corresponding amount.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005389

So makikita rin ito yan sa bill natin and every month, ang Meralco and all other distribution units...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005390

Nagsasubmit po sila ng kanilang implementation ng kanilang pass-through charges para nagkakaroon din po ng confirmation.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005391

At malalaman po na natapos na yung refund dahil kailangan po mag-submite ng report ang Meralco sa ERC na yung utos sa kanila na amount na i-refund.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005392

Ay natapos na nila, naisoli na nila ng bumbo.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005393

Salamat po, Mr. Chair. At yung antabayanan po natin yung submission mula sa ERC tungkol dyan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005394

Ngayon naman sa DOE, November 2022, naglabas ng Department Circular No. 2022-11-0034 na nagpapahintulot sa ating pamahalaan na pumasok sa kontrata with foreign citizens, foreign-owned corporations para mapababa yung gasto sa renewable energy projects.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005395

At gawing mas abay.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005396

Mula po 2022, ilang kontrata nang pinasok ng ating pamahalaan kaugnay ng renewable energy at sino-sino hong mga foreign-owned corporations ang makausap natin dito?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005397

Magmula po 2022, nagpas pong isang libong mga kontrata po ang pumasok. Yung mga 100% foreign-owned po, less than 100 po.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005398

Sir Chair, ganihinga.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005399

Ganihinga na lang po ng representation na ito, yung listahan, kung sino-sino huya. Alam ko marami. Subukas rin kami soft copy para sa Committee on Appropriations.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005400

Ngayon naman, nais kong magtanong tungkol sa statements ng ating sekretary tungkol sa Paxilica.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005401

Sinabi ni Sec. Agarin na ang DOE ay nagdadraft ng circular para maglatag ng guidelines sa paglalagay ng generation capacity para sa data centers at technology hubs.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005402

Kabilang ng Paxilica. Sinabi niyo rin ho na may several options para matugunan ang power requirement nito mula 50 megawatts, 100 hanggang 5,000.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005403

Ano na po ang status nito? May draft na po ba? At kailan ho ito maasahan na matapos at mailabas?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005404

Mr. Chair, it's a data center guideline for energization.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005405

Paxilica, they've been repeating na hindi daw sila data center.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005406

We're focusing more on data centers because ito talagang heavy.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005407

We can actually send the draft, pero we are adding more provisions for PESA.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005408

So maybe we will finish by the end of the month.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005409

We can send it once it's finished and I can issue it officially already.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005410

Thank you, ma'am.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005411

Sinabi ho ng ating sekretary na may several options.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005412

Ano-ano ho yung mga options?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005413

Para ma-supply yan ang energy requirement ng mga data centers na ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005414

At sa kaso ho ng halimbawa na nabanggit ko sa Paxilica, kung sakali ho na mapipirmahan ho natin yung framework sa darating na November.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005415

It's more than a framework. It's just a guideline. What are the options they have?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005416

For example, halimbawa, they've been saying they need 2 gigawatts or 2,000 megawatts.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005417

So, instead of getting it from the grid,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005418

pag ma-destabilize niya,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005419

one option is they can produce it themselves.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005420

They can put up the power plant.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005421

Another is they can ask somebody to put it up for them.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005422

Or if it's a PESA zone, maybe the economic authority can also do the production of energy and do the distribution and transmission as well.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005423

Or they can get a supplier.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005424

Halimbawa, i-de-reconnect.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005425

Or pwede din na magkontrata siya halimbawa sa isang supplier.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005426

Ibig sabihin niya yung supplier, siya yung naghahanap.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005427

Tapos nagbebenta lang siya ng power sa kanila.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005428

So, it's like GEOP or RES, ARCOA, na siya yung sasabihin niya halimbawa,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005429

one of those retailers, I need 1,000 megawatts of green.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005430

Sila yung bahala maghahanap.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005431

So, there are several options without risking our consumers.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005432

Thank you, Mr.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005433

In relation to Paxilica, the Secretary said that several renewable energy projects are scheduled for construction in Central Luzon.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005434

So, what are these projects, Mr. Chair?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005435

Yes, we can send you the list of those that are committed or indicative projects.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005436

But these are not for Paxilica.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005437

This is for the normal needs, the energy mix of the facility.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005438

Philippines, without the data center, let's say.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005439

And data center should be treated differently in a sense na dapat hindi niya kinakain yung kailangan ng mga tao.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005440

Tama ko, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005441

Dahil mahirap kong magsabi na kaya nating supplyan at maraming options,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005442

lalong-lalo na sa panahon ngayon na maraming beses na nagde-declare ng yellow at red alert sa iba't ibang bahagi ng ating bansa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005443

Kaya hindi lang nakakabigla, pero nakakabahala.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005444

At sa ganitong mga dambuhalang proyekto, maraming options.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005445

Pero yung para sa mga consumers natin, para sa karaniwang tao, ay kulang na kulang na kulang pa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005446

Yung mga kinakailangan natin na hindi lang option, pero yung guarantee na meron talaga silang supply ng kuryente.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005447

Kaya pagdating sa ganitong mga proyekto, dapat talaga a priority natin yung pangangailangan ng sambayan ng Pilipino.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005448

At hindi uunahin yung interest ng dayuhan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005449

At bilang panghuli na lang, Mr. Chair, I have a few seconds left.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005450

Napag-aralan na ho ba ng DOE, ng ERC?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005451

Kumusta ho yung assessment natin sa implementation ng IPIRA sa 25 years po ng pagpapatupad nito?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005452

I'll give it to Yusek Guevara.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005453

She's written a book about this.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005454

So, I'll let her explain her assessment.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005455

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005456

Yusek Guevara, you're recognized.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005457

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005458

Yung pong ating IPIRA journey for the last 25 years, nagkaroon po ng framework.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005459

That is what IPIRA is.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005460

Kasi sandamukal na mga policies ang nilabas pa ng DOE, ng ERC, etc.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005461

Bago po nabuo lahat.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005462

Sa paninaw po namin, yung pangangailangan ng IPIRA at that time, remember in the 90s?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005463

Sandamukal ang blackout natin, ano?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005464

Nasolve naman yung problem.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005465

But then, nandun naman tayo ngayon sa energy transition.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005466

So, the next 25 years ng IPIRA, kailangan natin i-address yung energy transition.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005467

What is fortunate is that it is the policy of the department because of the renewable energy law

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005468

to make sure that we increase our capacity for RE by 2030 to 35%, 50% by 2040.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005469

So, on track.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005470

So, on track.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005471

So, on track po tayo dun sa mga plano natin na ma-achieve.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005472

At nasolve po talaga natin yung mga madami sa problema na ina-attempt ng IPIRA.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005473

Pero may natitira pa po.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005474

Yes.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005475

At ang pinakamalaking problema dyan, Mr. Chair, yung mahal talaga na singil sa kuryente.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005476

At sa tingin po namin, very telling na po yung bilang ng complaints pa lang na natatanggap ng ERC pagdating dito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005477

Hindi lang humahal.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005478

Marami pa pong mga concerns pagdating sa...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005479

Yung kakayahan mismo ng mga kababayan natin na magbayad ng mahal na singil sa kuryente.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005480

Kaya ho, sana ang nasa pipeline ng mga dapat seryosohin ng kongresong ito at dapat suportahan din ng DOE,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005481

yung mga proposals na may kinalaman sa pagtatanggal, halimbawa, ng value-added tax sa kuryente.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005482

Hindi lang po sa system loss, pero pagtatanggal ng VAT sa kuryente.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005483

Kapag naabot na yung, kung may windfall profits,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005484

nakuha na natin yung...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005485

yung target collection, dapat naman ay magkaroon tayo ng aktibo na mga hakbang

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005486

para maging hawan naman at may dagdag ho na relief sa ating mga kababayan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005487

na nakakaranas na rin ngayon ng sobrang-sobrang paghihirap

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005488

dahil sa mahal na singil, hindi lang po sa kuryente, sa pagkain, sa langis.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005489

Marami hong mga binabalikat na mga buwis ang ating mga kababayan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005490

at isang pagtatanggal sa VAT sa mga atiyak na hakbang na maaari hong makatulong sa kanila.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005491

Yun lamang sa ngayon. Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005492

Thank you, Kong Sara.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005493

I totally agree with you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005494

But, Ipira, I think we really have to amend it.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005495

It's been like 25 years.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005496

So, even the penalties, penalties natin, 50 million, ano ba yung 50 million yan,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005497

increase it to 500 million.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005498

So, there's so many things that we need to do

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005499

para sa power industry.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005500

Well, Mr. Chair, we'll work with Chairman Alvarez and...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005501

Yes, and you're in good hands with Chairman Alvarez.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005502

So, next interpulate from the majority,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005503

Congressman Marlo Bancoro.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005504

Sir, you have the floor.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005505

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005506

Good afternoon, Sik Garin.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005507

Good afternoon, DOE family.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005508

Parang kailangan, Sir, Sik,

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005509

yung...

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005510

Kumusta na po yung update natin?

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005511

Sa closure ng Malangas PNOCEC?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005512

Para maka-recite si Adrian.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005513

May President Adrian of PNOCEC.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005514

PNOCEC.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005515

Thank you.

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-005516

Good afternoon, Mr. Chair.

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-005517

Good afternoon, Kong Marlo.

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-005518

Currently po, no, the decommissioning nung ating mina dun sa Samuanga, Sibugay,

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-005519

covered by COC 41 is currently ongoing.

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-005520

So, on track po tayo.

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-005521

Sana by probably another year, we'll be able to finish it, no?

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-005522

So, pagkatapos suno, it's an old COC, no?

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-005523

It's expiring in 2030.

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-005524

So, ano na rin ho yan?

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-005525

So, eventually, pag na decommission na namin, na kumpleto namin,

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-005526

ibabalik na namin sa DOE, i-re-relinquish na namin,

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-005527

and then all the facilities will be turned over to the DOE.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005528

Okay, thank you, Sir.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005529

Ah, Sekretary?

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005530

Ah, with that statement, ah, base ron sa napag-usapan natin,

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005531

gagawa tayo, gumawa na tayo ng MUA

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005532

para yung ibang properties marilis na at magkaroon ng title.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005533

Ah, I went to the Secretary of DNR, Sekretary Kona,

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005534

okay na siya sa MUA natin.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005535

Ah, he's ready for the scheduled signing,

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005536

and he's offering a schedule the last week of September.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005537

Would be okay for you,

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005538

Secretary, last week of September?

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005539

Pupunta tayo sa lugar ko with

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005540

Secretary Kona and then

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005541

with the six mayors, we'll sign the [unclear], sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005564

I'll just check the schedule, sir,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005565

but we'll go there.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005566

I hanap ko lang ng araw kasi alam ko...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005567

Well, anyway, Sir, yes.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005568

We'll work on it.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005569

We will adjust naman, Sekretary.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005570

Yes, sir.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005571

Ma'am.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005572

But, ah, basta...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005573

But, ah, but, sir...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005574

But we are ready for the signing already. Yes, sir.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005575

We will adjust the schedule.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005576

Ang sa amin lang na sana mabigyan ito ng priority kasi alam nyo,

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005577

if mangyari ito, thousands of titles will be issued to individuals.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005578

Yes, yes, Mr.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005579

So, malaking impact on the government side, sa atin, sa Pangulo, sa administration, sa inyo,

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005580

sa sekretary, sa DOH, sa RAS, DINR.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005581

So, this is a very good project, big project.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005582

So, sana bigyan ito ng malaking, ano?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005583

Yes, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005584

I can even sign it already, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005585

Even wala pa yung schedule na signing nyo.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005586

Mas maganda pong...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005587

Ahead of time, if you want, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005588

Mag-aroon na naman.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005589

But we're ready for that, yes, sir.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005590

Thank you, ma'am.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005591

Okay.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005592

Doon tayo sa national concerns, sa ERC.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005593

Sir, tama po ba na ang complaint desk sa ERC, sa Mindanao, sa Dabao?

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005594

Saka yung mga hearings, kung mayroon man, sa Dabao rin mangyari?

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005595

For Mindanao, alon?

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ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro

asr-005596

Good afternoon, po.

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ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro

asr-005597

Attorney Leyla from the Consumer Affairs Service, po, and behalf of the chair.

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ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro

asr-005598

Yung mga sa DUS po, nasa Mindanao, doon din po igaganapin yung hearing.

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ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro

asr-005599

Similarly po, kung sa Visayas naman yung mga DUS or ACs, doon din po, sir, igaganapin.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005600

Pwede ko ba, ang sekretary, mahalapan natin yung paraan para medyo maluwag

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005601

kung dapat sa complaint?

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005602

Kasi in our case, ang Dabao, travel by land, sa amin, is around more or less 10 hours.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005603

So, yung complaint, sa gastos lang, eh, di na lang siya mag-complain.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005604

So, wait, wait, for a while.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005605

I suggest po, kung pwede, gawin natin regional.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005606

Kung hindi talaga kaya, I would suggest na saka ganyan di euro.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005607

Of course.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005608

The handsome and good congressman of Gagayan de Oro will accommodate on that.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005609

The golden friendship, city.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005610

Kasi nasa centro po ang Gagayan de Oro.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005611

Pero, I would prefer na every region.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005612

Para may justice naman doon sa mga nag-complain.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005613

Sobrang malayo po ang Dabao.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005614

For an orderly proceeding, kindly address the question to the chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005615

And need to be recognized.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005616

Malapit lang.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005617

Okay.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005618

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005619

Before we adopted the online proceedings through video teleconferencing,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005620

ganun po talaga ang aming ginagawa.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005621

For any rate application or any petition affecting the consumers,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005622

we conduct at least one hearing in the locality affected.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005623

And for the consumer complaints,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005624

dahil po ang aming...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005625

ang aming satellite or field offices ay nasa sa Cebu lang at sa Dabao,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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doon po nagkakaroon ang mga hearings.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005627

And we do understand na mahirap talaga para doon sa ibang mga consumers

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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ng iba't ibang mga co-ops in Mindanao or in the Visayas

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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na magbibiyahi pa sila sa Mindanao, sa Dabao, or in the case of Visayas, sa Cebu.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005630

Pero, noong nangyari po yung pandemic at nagkaroon na rin po ng rules,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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ang ERC sa online hearings,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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ngayon po ang default na hearings na namin,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005633

both doon sa mga proceedings before the commission

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005634

at kasama na yung mga consumer...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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yung formal na consumer complaints,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005636

ito po ay ginagawa na rin namin through video conferencing online.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005637

Kaya kahit po nasa malayong lugar sa Mindanao,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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yung consumer,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005639

maaari na po siyang makapag-participate through this...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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platform.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005641

Ito na po yung default namin,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005642

unless magkaroon nga din po ng request na magkaroon ng in-person na hearing.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005643

Ito po ay sinusulat na namin dito sa 2026 na Rules of Practice and Procedure ng ERC

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005644

nang sa ganun ay malinaw na po ito para sa lahat.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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At hindi na po maging hadlang ang distansya

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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para makapag-participate at makadulog sa atin ang ating mga consumers.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

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Sir, thank you very much.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005648

Pero, may qualifications sabi mo eh.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005649

Ito meron lang House of Christmas na magkaroon ng face to face.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005650

So, parehas pa rin, malayo.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005651

So,

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005652

para makabundit natin

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005653

kung hindi talaga kaya regional,

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005654

ilagay

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005655

natin sa Cagayan de Oro para nasa gitna.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005656

Oo po, Mr. Chair, we will welcome that choice of venue,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005657

Cagayan di Oro

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005658

dahil,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005659

I am also an

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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unadapted son

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

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of

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005662

Cagayan de Oro.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005663

Kung amin namang pag-set ng mga regional hearings tulad ng consultations or kaya ay yung mga conduct ng aming CREST o yung continuing regulatory education seminars, ito po ay ginaganap namin hindi lang naman sa Cebu City at sa Davao City.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005664

Kasi paminsan po ay nakakaroon kami sa mga ibang major cities lalo't may mga pasilidad sila para maka-accommodate ng mga magsisipagdalo sa aming mga public hearings or consultation.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005665

At isa na nga doon yung napag-usapan natin recently ni Congressman Nagooc na maaaring magkaroon ng CREST doon sa malapit sa lugar niya sa Surigao or Agusan.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005666

Sa ganon ay magkaroon din ng pagkakakamal.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005667

Pagkakataon ang komisyon na makabisita doon sa iba't ibang lugar na mga consumer ay hindi karaniwan nakakaabot sa amin at makita din namin yung sitwasyon nila doon sa mga lugar nila po.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005668

Mr. Chair, ang reason bakit gusto ko sa regional or magiging sa kagandi-oro na lang sa centro para ma-encourage natin yung mga complainant na idulog talaga kung ano yung problema.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005669

Kasi pag malayo talaga, Mr. Chair, nawawala yung logic natin.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005670

Nawawala yung purpose ng bakit tayo nagkaroon ng ganyang guidance.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005671

So, I don't hope na it would be a commitment from you na kung hindi kaya regional, gawin natin sa kagandi-oro.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005672

Opo, whenever we will have to conduct in-person hearings in the Mindanao area, we will of course prioritize having it in...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005673

...kagandi-oro.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005674

Of course, our budget for transportation permitting.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005675

Walang qualification.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005676

Kasi mahirap magkaroon ng qualification.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005677

Dapat firm tayo.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005678

Kasi we are serving the people.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005679

I-material yung pera dyan pag sinabi natin magsiservisyo sa tao.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005680

Kasi kung ganyan yung utak natin, hindi tayo nakakaservisyo.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005681

Lahat nalang sasabihin nyo, wala kaming pera, wala kaming pera.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005682

Hindi ganyan.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005683

As a public servant.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005684

Opo, we will study that.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005685

How we will be able to fund.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005686

Yung pong pagkakaroon ng hearing, napapabiyayihin natin yung ating staff from Mindanao, from Davao to kagandi-oro.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005687

Makapag-hotel sila doon.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005688

At doon magkaroon ng hearing at pabalik.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005689

Dahil po, hindi ito nakasama doon sa aming programa.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005690

Sa aming budget na pinanukala na 1.7%.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005691

At sa aming budget na pinanukala na 1.7 billion, na naging 944 million.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005692

Sorry, Madam, Mr. Chair, Madam Secretary.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005693

Parang invasive man yung datingin ng ating ERC.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005694

Nawawala na talaga yung servisyo natin dyan.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005695

Kasi magiging dahilan yung ano natin, budget.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005696

Ayun ang purpose na nandito tayo.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005697

Anong purpose nandyan ka?

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005698

Kung hindi ka, kaya mong tulungan sa bayan ng Pilipino.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005699

Sila nagsiswildo sa inyo.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005700

Opo.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005701

Kung makakaya po namin bubiyahe, bubiyahe naman po talaga.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005702

Kaya po, sir. Ang gusto ko. Firm.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005703

Dr. Tanda Tila Bancoro, please wind up.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005704

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro

asr-005705

Yan lang po. Salamat.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005706

Thank you, Representative Bancoro.

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Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara

asr-005707

Now, from the minority, Representative Reneco, you are now recognized.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005708

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005709

And good afternoon to the Department of Energy.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005710

May several questions lang po tayo in relation sa, well, una po sa income tax holiday for renewable energy developers.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005711

This is provided under RA 9513, kung saan the renewable energy sector can avail of tax incentives under the Renewable Energy Act

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005712

through the securing of a certificate of endorsement by the DOE.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005713

And ang pansin natin, kung titignan po talaga yung listahan, marami po siyang tax incentives.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005714

This is for developers and manufacturers, fabricators and suppliers sa ilalim ng Renewable Energy Act,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005715

whether that's for the first seven years, income tax holiday, 10 years of duty-free importation,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005716

net operating loss carryover, NOLCO for seven taxable years, etc.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005717

So, there are a lot.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005718

Pero ang napapansin din naman po natin ay with every...

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005719

approved and processing renewable energy project,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005720

ay may mga magsasakat indigenous communities na naapektuhan sa pagtatayo nito.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005721

So, kung amyandahan po ang batas at higpitan yung guidelines sa pag-issue ng certificate of endorsement para sa tax incentives,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005722

para po makonsidera ang epekto ng displacement ng indigenous communities at iba pang mga residente

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005723

ng itinatayong renewable energy project,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005724

susuportahan po ba ito ng DOE?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005725

Yung pag-insure na yung...

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005726

Yung tax incentives na ito or kung ano man po yung benepisyo mapupuntahan nito ay maramdaman makita ng mga magsasaka at indigenous communities.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005727

Mr. Chair, may we say the answer?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005728

Thank you for that question.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005729

Ang proseso po ng pagkuha ng service contract, marami pong requirements.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005730

Isa sa requirement po niyan ay...

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005731

At saka po dapat meron pong memorandum of agreement at saka CN na i-produce or CP na ibigay ang NCIP doon sa developer.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005732

Hindi pa po siya nagko-construct.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005733

Hihingi pa lang po siya ng service contract sa Department of Energy.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005734

So, yung pong panukala na sinasuggest po ninyo, mukhang embedded na po talaga doon sa batas.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005735

Kasi hindi siya makakakuha ng service contract.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005736

Hindi siya makakapag-umpis.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005737

Hanggat hindi niya na-fulfill po yung mga sinabi po ninyo.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005738

Tapos, pagka nakakuha na siyang service contract, saka pa lang po...

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005739

siya mag-uumpisa ng pre-development, tapos saka po yung magko-construct, tapos saka po magpo-produce.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005740

Saka lang po siya pwede mag-benefit dun sa mga incentives under the Renewable Energy Act.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005741

Siyempre po, naiintindihan natin na may mga guidelines yung pagkuhan ng FPIC

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005742

and generally meron niyang range kung paano hinahandle ng mga developers, etc.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005743

Pero ang punot-dulo din naman po, gusto natin mapagsilbihan systematically and through a framework level

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005744

na yung madi-displace ay maramdaman makita yung benepisyo.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005745

Lalo na po, mas marami pong mga reports na may mga ibat-ibang mga communities,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005746

whether that's renewable project or hindi, pag na-displace, usually pinapaalis lang po sila.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005747

So, I'm just asking po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005748

Kung kaya pong i-consider ng DOE na kung may pag-amend ng batas para to ensure na kung anuman pong labas ng mga incentives na ito,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005749

maka-benefisyo po yung ating mga indigenous communities, yung madi-displace po, if ever.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005750

Mr. Chair?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005751

Mr. Chair?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005752

May we respond?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005753

Yes, please.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005754

Pag-aaralan po namin at sisiguruduhin namin na makonsider po yung mga suggestion niyo.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005755

Thank you po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005756

Thank you po, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005757

Can I?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005758

Ma-clarify po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005759

Under po ba ng renewable energy projects na maaaring mabukas po ang waste to energy under the framework po ng Department of Energy right now?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005760

May ongoing, Mr. Chair, may ongoing special auction for waste to energy ngayon.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005761

Can I ask kung meron po bang existing partnerships with private institutions,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005762

ang Department of Energy, or even, no?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005763

Paano po nai-ensure ng Department of Energy na may gabay nila yung pag-develop at pag-aproba ng mga lumalapit na gustong magtayo ng waste to energy facilities dito?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005764

Una po ang mga, Mr. Chair, may I?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005765

Ang mga memorandum of agreement po namin ay doon sa mga local government units kasi kailangan po ng feedstock agreement between the private waste to energy developer at saka po yung LGU.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005766

Kung saan man gagaling yung feedstock.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005767

Yung pong pagkakaroon.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005768

Kailangan po ng mga technologies na ito for waste to energy, kailangan po pumasa sa Department of Science and Technology para ikumpara sa world standards at saka sa batas po natin on Clean Air Act.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005769

Tapos, kailangan din po silang payagan ng DNR bago po sila pwedeng magtayo ng waste to energy facility.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005770

So, lahat po ng safeguards to make sure na hindi makakaharm sa environment at sa tao.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005771

At sa community, kasama po yun sa waste to energy.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005772

So, to my understanding po, may MOA, ang LGU, and developer. Tama po ba?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-005773

Feedstock agreement po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005774

Feedstock agreement. Ilan pong feedstock agreements na ang meron dito sa Pilipinas on waste to energy right now?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005775

Well, the feedstock agreement is an initiative on both sides, actually.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005776

Not on the part of DOE, pero if you want to develop a waste to energy project,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005777

incumbent upon you to find feedstock.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005778

Hindi pwede na sabihin mo lang sa amin na galing waste to energy dyan, pero hindi pala sa waste.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005779

So, it's the responsibility of the developer, actually.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005780

As we speak, I assume that the developers that are interested in joining the auction are already looking for disagreements.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005781

Looped in po ba ang DOE, Mr. Chair, kapag may ganito pong agreements na gustong pasukin,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005782

and eventually, ma-fafinalize?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005783

It has always been an issue on waste to energy, yung feedstock.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005784

Kaya wala pa nangyayari hanggang ngayon.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005785

And that is why, that was why the law will help also, to make it more sustainable.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005786

But, looped in in a sense, DOE looped in in disagreements, in a sense,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005787

it is a requirement.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005788

It is a requirement of DOE for, for them to pursue the project.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005789

Responsibility nila yan, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005790

Mr. Chair, kung meron po tayong list of current agreements, kung meron,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005791

because even though wala pa tayo on an industrial level, because wala pa pong batas,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005792

we are aware that may mga ilang WTE projects sa iba't ibang bahagi ng Pilipinas, modular nga lang po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005793

So, is the DOE aware of these projects po ba? Dumadaan po ba yung information na ito?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005794

Do you have?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005795

Do you have records kung ilan na po ba siya sa Pilipinas?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005796

No, we don't have any information.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005797

We'll try to find which, whether it's through the LGUs or through DNR, we'll check if we can provide information.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005798

Okay, thank you.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005799

We look forward to that information, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005800

But, I'd like to raise, Mr. Chair, because this is a study that was published in 2023 by PLOS Climate,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005801

kung saan it was found that,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005802

unfortunately, WTE incinerators in the USA emit more greenhouse gas emissions per unit of electricity produced.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005803

So, there's 1,707 grams of carbon dioxide produced per kilowatt hour.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005804

And it is the dirtiest among any other power source.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005805

So, ang tanong ko po, Mr. Chair, ay this is included.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005806

So, or classified under renewable energy.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005807

Paano po natin mapangahawakan nun na pwede siyang renewable energy na may ganitong findings na dirty yung nilalabas niya

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005808

kumpara sa iba pang mga sources of power?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005809

And ano po bang plans ng DOE, if any, to reduce the emissions of greenhouse gases in WTE facilities?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005810

Representative, kindly wind up.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005811

Mr. Chair, it's waste to energy, technically, because the law says so.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005812

Under the RE law, naka-include siya.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005813

So, that's why it's classified as waste to energy.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005814

Now, based on the studies, it's U.S. technology.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005815

Then, we won't allow U.S. technology to be here if it's not compliant with our requirements here.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005816

There are technologies in other countries that are even better, like Japan, Switzerland, even Singapore has that.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005817

Even China has that.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005818

So, marami pong available technology.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005819

As explained earlier,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005820

we are one of the most stringent in emissions.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005821

We're stricter than Switzerland, actually.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005822

So, we will follow the law in pursuing the technology that we want to be placed here.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005823

So, we won't do it like the other countries excited in the article na sa U.S. na technology.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005824

Then, we'll get other options because we won't allow poor or inefficient technologies here in the Philippines.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005825

Okay.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005826

As a final manifestation,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005827

given that there are documented health and environmental concerns

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005828

raised by residents near proposed WTE sites already actually here

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005829

and elsewhere in the world,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005830

I request the department to reconsider the classification of waste to energy under renewable energy.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005831

The response I received so far was,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005832

well, we can't help it.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005833

Under the law, it is there.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005834

But there are studies.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005835

It's beyond the one that I just cited.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005836

And I can also provide it to the department for its consideration and its study

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005837

na mas marami pong health hazards, environmental hazards,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005838

na bit-bit ang waste to energy,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005839

na halos ma-defeat yung purpose, yung classifying it,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005840

and yung pagtingin natin sa pag-invest in renewable energy

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005841

na gusto naman po natin para po sa dulo ng ating framework.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005842

So, that's the consideration po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005843

Sana na maibukas na sa department.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005844

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005845

We cannot, unfortunately, we cannot reclassify it.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005846

We don't have the mandate.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005847

But should the good, honorable congresswoman propose it,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005848

then we can join the discussion and the study.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005849

Yes.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005850

My time is up, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005851

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005852

Who said your time is up?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005853

The timer said my time is up.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005854

Okay.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005855

But if...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005856

For the second round.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005857

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005858

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005859

So, next to interpolate from the majority,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005860

Congressman John Sinise.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005861

Are you here?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005862

Wala.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005863

Congressman Bong Tevez?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005864

Wala.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005865

Congressman Yusuf Alano?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005866

Wala.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005867

Congressman Artyap?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005868

Wala nang babalik.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005869

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005870

Congressman Rufus Rodriguez.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005871

After five hours, you are recognized, sir.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005872

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005873

On February 28, the Iran war erupted.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005874

Fear pervaded the nation.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005875

Supply of diesel and fuel.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005876

The prices.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005877

The how to deal and support the transport sector

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005878

and the entire Filipino people.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005879

I am here, the representative of the 2nd District of the NDO,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005880

together with my brother, the more handsome one,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005881

the congressman of Abante Mindanao,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005882

Party List.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005883

What are you doing here?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005884

We are here.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005885

Why we are here?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005886

Because we congratulate the Secretary of the Department of Energy.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005887

Nothing of the fears became realities.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005888

We had sufficient supply.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005889

Thanks to Secretary Sharon Garin.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005890

Agree.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005891

We were able to contain the increases of fuel prices.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005892

Through her, we were able to be able to provide fuel prices.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005893

Through her, we were able to be able to provide fuel prices.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005894

Through her, we were able to be able to provide fuel prices.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005895

Through her, we were able to provide fuel prices.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005896

Through her, we were able to be able to gather government resources

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005897

Through her, we were able to be able to be able to be able to be able to give to the transport sector

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005898

Through her, we were able to be able to be able to be able to give to the transport sector

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005899

and the Filipino people.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005900

That is why the Congressman Maxi Rodriguez, Jr.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005901

and your representation here

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005902

and your representation here

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005903

are here not only to support the budget to the DOE

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005904

but to increase the budget of the Department of Energy.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005905

My question is how much is the increase you're asking?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005906

are asking? None.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005907

Mr. Chair, we don't

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005908

ask for an increase. We ask for

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005909

ERC's increase, sir. We can manage.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005910

Kailangan talaga

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005911

we have a strong regulator.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-005912

Yes, it's just

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005913

220 million.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005914

Are we talking about the ERC?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005915

Yes. Because it's a kagayanon.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005916

Married to

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005917

the daughter of my very

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005918

good friend, congressman,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005919

city mayor,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005920

Tinex Araula, the daughter

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005921

of Kasi Girl is here.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005922

Please stand up and be recognized.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005923

Stand up, stand up, please.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005924

The sister-in-law.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005925

So,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005926

our very

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005927

outstanding ERC head

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005928

because he is an

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005929

expert. He has the figures

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005930

on his fingertips

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005931

on questions of

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005932

energy.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005933

Can you tell us how much you need?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005934

From you, personally.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005935

From the department, sir.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005936

Baka personal

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-005937

yung hingin mo.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005938

We have

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005939

actually wrote the

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005940

speaker

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005941

asking for reconsideration

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005942

if the unreleased

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005943

amount from our proposed

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005944

2027 budget

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005945

can be reinstated.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005946

And, of course,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005947

that would be,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005948

more than 700 million.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005949

But,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005950

at the very least,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005951

we pray and we plead

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005952

that our

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005953

budget for consulting services

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005954

and the corresponding

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005955

MOE for that

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005956

to the tune of

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005957

around 200

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005958

million plus

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005959

be reconsidered.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005960

Because, right now, after

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005961

more than 12 years,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005962

that there were no,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005963

no rate resets,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005964

we have started deciding

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005965

on the rate reset applications

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005966

of our distribution utilities.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005967

And we intend to finish

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005968

the rate reset

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005969

applications of

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005970

all utilities

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005971

in 2027.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005972

And without this support, well,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005973

it is

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005974

now at risk, and

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005975

and we will

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005976

find it very very

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005977

difficult to work within that

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005978

time line that we set for ERC,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005979

which is 2027, to

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005980

complete all this, which will also

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005981

support the President's call for the removal of the system loss

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005982

because we would need our utilities to be able to operate more efficiently

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005983

and they can only operate more efficiently if they'll be given also the appropriate rates

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-005984

for them to be able to bring down also their system losses.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005985

Thank you. Your request is approved according to the Chairman.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005986

Now I go to our favorite, our Administrator of the National Electrification Administration,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005987

the brother of my best re-rector in the Bureau of Immigration, Danny Almeda,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005988

whom we know very well, served very well in the Bureau of Immigration.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-005989

We have Danny Almeda. Who must be in it?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-005990

Mr. Chair, we also wrote the Office of the Speaker.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-005991

requesting for a $10 billion actually to cover the, to caution the effect of the program

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-005992

on the elimination of the non-technical system loss amongst the electric cooperatives.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-005993

Mr. Chair, I would like to manifest that if there's any that will be greatly affected

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-005994

by the...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-005995

elimination of the non-technical laws

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-005996

and

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-005997

so as the technical laws, these are the electric cooperatives.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-005998

For the electric cooperatives' mandate is to extend the lines on the unserved and unviable

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-005999

CTOs, and that will greatly contribute to the systems laws of the electric cooperatives.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006000

However, we are determined to make good pronouncement of the president, but only so far as to the

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006001

non-technical systems laws.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006002

We have the energy family through the directive of the secretary.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006003

I believe we have a good plan, a good plan to contain and eventually eliminate the non-technical

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006004

systems laws.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006005

Secretary Sharon, would you like to?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006006

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006007

Just for your information, Mr. Chair, we are actually scheduling a green energy auction,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006008

especially for Mindanao.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006009

And ah

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006010

And that is a combination.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006011

I think it's more or less with batteries, solar with batteries.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006012

And I have to say that there is so much interest.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006013

Marami po talagang gustong mag-invest sa renewable energy in Mindanao because they see the potential.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006014

Merong study siya, and then they see it, even hydro.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006015

What we need for Mindanao, even if we have so many power plants there, kung yung electrification

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006016

and energization hindi pa rin maayos, baay hindi siya ganun ka-efficient, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006017

And that is why I actually asked Nani already to prioritize Mindanao.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006018

But if there's any additional available in the future, then it should be on energization

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006019

of Mindanao, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006020

And I'm sure you will be supportive of this.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006021

And together with Transco, that will help also in the transmission.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006022

Para gumandan na talaga siya, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006023

Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006024

Secretary Green, you are now an adopted son, daughter, daughter of Kageyan Lioro.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006025

Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006026

How about situ electrification?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006027

How much do you need?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006028

Ten billion, though.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006029

Ten billion?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006030

Ten billion, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006031

Of the computation.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006032

I have here the computation, 11 minus 2 is 8.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006033

No, it's 8.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006034

Can you give us the figures of what the NEP says and what you are doing?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006035

What are you requesting?

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006036

The NEP granted us 5 billion and that is the same amount as last year.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006037

That includes the photovoltaic mainstreaming, Mr. Chair.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006038

I mean, honestly, I'm just more concerned about how to cushion the program implementation

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006039

of the elimination of the non-technology service loss.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006040

Because that will really...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006041

greatly affect the operations of our electric cooperatives.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006042

And as you well know, the electric cooperatives' tariff system is just on a cash flow methodology

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006043

and they will not have any source of repayment.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006044

And that would greatly affect their payment schedules on the GENCOs.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006045

And we don't want that to happen.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006046

Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006047

But, Mr. Chairman, precisely, Nani, our administrator, had made sure...

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006048

that there is CITIO electrification for Mindanao, because you have the lowest in Mindanao.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006049

That's why we always support you, based on the figures.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006050

Your proposal was 11.2 billion and you are only given for CITIO electrification projects 2.9.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006051

So the total for reconsideration is 8.2.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006052

Can you confirm, Administrator?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006053

I confirm, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006054

Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006055

So, again, the Chair says that is approved.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006056

Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006057

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006058

Noted.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006062

Now, we have here, so we congratulate Nani.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006063

Please always come to Coguilhende Oro and Morescu 1.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006064

And we have a recommendation for appointment of the representative, Nonito Labis.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006065

Please appoint him.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006066

Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006067

Now we go.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006068

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006069

Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006070

To our two colleagues, I want them to be able to speak today.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006071

And what are their comments or the suggestions?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006072

First, we'd like to ask Coco.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006073

No go.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006074

And also Drales to speak to us, for our colleague.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-006075

Mr. Chair, thank you very much for the honourable Congressman from Coguilhende Oro's support

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-006076

for the energy family.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-006077

The National Power Corporation is very happy with the submitted GAHA as filed.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-006078

While we want to ask for more, we waive to the ERC because they need more support,

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-006079

Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006080

Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006081

That would be all, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006082

Now, to go to Chikoy Alvarez.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006083

I just have to remind you we are in the Nograles Hall.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006084

I see. The more we should increase, whatever budget, Chikoy will ask.

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Philippine National Oil Company President and CEO Franz Joseph George Alvarez

asr-006085

Good afternoon. Good evening.

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Philippine National Oil Company President and CEO Franz Joseph George Alvarez

asr-006086

For PNOC, we don't have an additional budget.

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Philippine National Oil Company President and CEO Franz Joseph George Alvarez

asr-006087

We have approved the requested budget for the storage facility for next year.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006088

Now, we go to the PNOC exploration.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006089

Mr. Sugai, the brother of my good classmate.

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-006090

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Kong Rufus.

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-006091

Now, we will not ask for any funds.

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-006092

We have our own funds, and we defer, of course, to the secretary

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-006093

and to the other members of the energy family for their funding needs.

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-006094

And we thank the Honorable Congressman, my brother's very good friend,

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-006095

for the support.

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Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay

asr-006096

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Kong Rufus.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006097

Thank you, President Sugai.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006098

President de la Serna, what do you ask of this committee?

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-006099

Mr. Chair, Congressman Rodriguez, the same as PNOCEC,

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-006100

most of our budget is internally funded and by the WINGS.

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-006101

We are here to support the UEE ERC in their budgetary requirements.

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PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna

asr-006102

Mr. Chair, thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006103

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006104

Now, to our national transco, President Castillo.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006105

Thank you, sir.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006106

The same with PSOM and PNOC.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006107

We don't have a budget request as our funds that come from the concession.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006108

We just want to hear from you.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006109

Thank you.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006110

We thank you again for your support to the DOE family, and we welcome that, sir.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006111

Mr. Chairman, any more agency has not spoken yet?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006112

Or lahat na?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006113

Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006114

Doon sa kabila.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006115

Secretary?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006116

I think under the leadership of President Johnson,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006117

Omar of Transco, he's scheduled to connect Basilan to Sabuanga, actually,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006118

under initiative of Transco.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006119

Just ano lang, para lang, we have good news for you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006120

Very good.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006121

Thank you, Joseph, because our Muslim brothers are really asking for that for a long time.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006122

Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006123

On that note, Mr. Chairman, as I end my time,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006124

once again, let me reiterate.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006125

First, you know, sometimes we forget functionality.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006126

You know, we have a lot of people in our countries who saved us from calamities.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006127

One is Secretary Garin.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006128

Now nobody will thank her.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006129

But we had no problems because of the leadership of Secretary Garin.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006130

We have the supply, the prices are stabilizing, we have the support to the transport sector.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006131

So, you know, sometimes we forget these things.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006132

And we will not forget my brother, Maximo Rodriguez, a Bantim in the now.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006133

That is why we are here to support Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006134

Support not only for the budget.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006135

Of the DOE, ERC, and all the agencies, but to increase their budget to the levels, maximum levels.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez

asr-006136

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006137

Thank you, Kong Rufus.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006138

That is also the reason why I accepted to be the sponsor of the DOE family.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006139

Napakagaling po nila.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006140

And actually, wala pong gustong gumawa sa kanila.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006141

At hindi ko rin pabaya ng kapatid ko.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006142

I have to say, though, because Usec Sandy,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006143

he handled the oil supply and the pricing, sila Mario and Gev handled it,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006144

to avoid the increase on 12 pesos dapat yan eh.

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DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan

asr-006145

Yes.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006146

Wimpy was the one going to the gas stations.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006147

...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006148

Joby, sila Yusef, all are Yusefs.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006149

They all help.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006150

And also, even the agencies, it was not as complicated because everybody knew what to do.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006151

So, kudos to the whole team.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006152

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006153

And with that, nagpalakpakan na kayo.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006154

May magtatanong pa ba?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006155

Yes, meron na po.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006156

From the minority, we have Representative Edgar Ibise.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006157

Sure.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006158

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006159

From the good news to a not so good news.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006160

Of course, I have to perform my job, provide check and balance.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006161

Nung SONA po.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006162

So, yung pinakamalakas na palakpakan kay Pangulo ay yung pagkatanggal ng systems loss.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006163

Ang una ko pong katanungan, ito po ba ay input ng Department of Energy?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006164

Sir, I think the question is whether we follow it or not.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006165

No.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006166

Whether it is an input.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006167

Because I believe that every policy, major policy, should be…

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006168

Meron po stop work.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006169

Nakagawa po ba ng stop work dito ang DOE?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006170

Sir, we have submitted several suggestions.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006171

Included na rin yung system loss, but on system loss also.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006172

Meron po kayong suggestion sa ating Pangulo na tanggalin ang systems loss.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006173

On the VAT, sir.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006174

On the VAT.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006175

Yes, sir.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006176

Ang pangako ng Pangulo ay the whole…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006177

Correct, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006178

There was discussion also of system loss.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006179

On our side…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006180

On our side, it's the VAT.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006181

And then we also had discussions about system loss.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006182

But we leave it to the Office of the President for the decision.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006183

But, for example, merong figures.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006184

May mga figures involved in, for example, in the decision to eliminate systems loss.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006185

May figures po.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006186

Nakakatapat yan.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006187

Iyan po.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006188

Aware po ba ang Pangulo kung ano yung mga mangyayari after eliminating the whole systems loss?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006189

Kahit na po yung ano lang.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006190

Yung nakatapat.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006191

Ang technical lang.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006192

Huwag na natin pag-usapan yung technical systems loss.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006193

We submit all documents, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006194

But not all the discussion in the SONA.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006195

It's something that's…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006196

It's instructions to us.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006197

So, hindi siya…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006198

Yung ini-discuss muna namin and then we say, eto po ilagay ninyo.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006199

It doesn't work like that.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006200

It's more of the assessment of the Office of the President.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006201

What should be our priority?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006202

But rather…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006203

It's not the other way around.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006204

Na kami magsasabi, eto dapat priority.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006205

So, I cannot really answer that, sir.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006206

Sa stop work nyo, there's technical systems loss and non-technical.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006207

Yes, sir.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006208

We have a…

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006209

At ang recommendation ngayon, malamang ito yung maging policy ng government, yung non-technical

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006210

lang ang alisin.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006211

Tama po ba?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006212

The discussion, as we understand it from the directive and the further discussions to that,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006213

it's…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006214

We will really work hard to eliminate…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006215

Eliminate both, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006216

Yes, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006217

If it's possible, then we will tell you, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006218

The plan is that we will have the optimal distribution plan of each cooperative.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006219

We will give them six months to make the preparation so that we can quantify the effort, the funding

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006220

and everything, the time that we need.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006221

We need…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006222

They need about six months to finalize.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006223

It's not an easy work for them to do.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006224

For example, Metro Manila.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006225

All the clients of Meralco.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006226

Masyadong madali po yan dahil 5.6% yung kanilang systems loss.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006227

Tama po?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006228

Their non-technical is 1% and our…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006229

It's very low.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006230

Meralco actually has one of the lowest, but they're willing naman to lower it pa.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006231

But we haven't finished…

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006232

May pangako ang pangulo.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006233

Alisin ang systems loss.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006234

Yes, sir.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006235

Meralco.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006236

Will they comply with that?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006237

We are…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006238

I want to qualify.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006239

I want to qualify the answer na hindi pa tapos yung usapan namin with the private.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006240

Inuna namin yung electric co-ops kasi.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006241

So, you said you have actually a meeting with all of them next week, tomorrow, to finalize

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006242

kung ano yung guidelines.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006243

Kasi iba yung guideline for electric co-ops.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006244

They're in a different financial situation.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006245

And then the private utility.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006246

So, I cannot really commit right now kung ano yung finalize namin.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006247

Sa aking pong pag-aaral, sa buong mundo, doon sa mga non-private…

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006248

non-private…

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006249

sa mga privatized power generation and distribution, lahat yan may systems loss.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006250

So, ang ibig sabihin, kung mawawala yung systems loss, ang Pilipinas lang ang bansa na walang systems loss.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006251

Tama po ba yan?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006252

That will be the case, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006253

So, right now, what we are more confident about is the non-technical.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006254

Yan tatanggalin kami.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006255

Kasi po, yung sustainability…

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006256

napakalaking question yan, na hindi ko malaman kung saan kukunin yung technical systems loss.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006257

At pagdating naman po, mas maliit na portion, sabi nyo nga, yung non-technical systems loss.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006258

Kung sasagutin po yan ang gobyerno, ayuda po yan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006259

Yes, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006260

I think we would rather…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006261

We are actually…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006262

Ang kailangan kasi hindi yung gagastos tayo ng sobrang laki tapos yung beneficio.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006263

Ikaw, ikaw…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006264

Sisingilin mo lang naman.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006265

At mas makikinabang po yan, yung mas malaki ang konsumo.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006266

Yung mga mahihirap, mas maliit ang pakinabang dahil maliit lang yung kanila konsumo.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006267

Yes, sir. We do understand.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006268

So, we're treading carefully, making sure that our co-ops are steady.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006269

Pero they make…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006270

This is not business as usual for electric co-ops anymore.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006271

Kailangan ayusin nila yung trabaho nila.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006272

That private, I cannot commit yet kung ano pa yung plan, sir.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006273

Because we're still working on it

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006274

Very tricky po yan. Kasi imagine, for this budget, daming pinangako ni ating kaibigan na gusto nating matupad, pero ang ating fiscal space for capital outlay is only 16% of 7.2 trillion, 1.1 trillion.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006275

Ngayon, yung mga new projects, kasama na po dyan, yung mga allocation per district ng mga congressmen, baka pag pinagbigyan kayo ni Chairman Rupus, baka mawalan kami ng mga projects.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006276

Yes, sir. Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006277

Saan dyan pa rin po yung mga foreign-assisted projects? Parang sobrang sikip na eh. Hindi ko malaman kung saan kukunin. For example, 10 billion for systems law, saan kukunin yun?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006278

Yes, Mr. Chair. We don't understand.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006279

But we will work out that we will not ask for additional budget, sir. We'll find a way na para ma-fundingan yung improvements sa mga electric co-ops natin. And Mr. Guevara wants to add something, sir.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006280

Opo. Pero, hindi. Nangunawaan ko na po. Okay na po. Ang pangalawang tanong ko. So, itong taon na to, hindi matutupad yung pangako ng Pangulo na matatanggal ang systems laws.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006281

Partial lang, sir. Baka our target really is like before the next summer.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006282

So, now we will finish this, sir.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006283

Before the next summer. Okay. Thank you.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006284

So, pagdating naman po sa nung nakaraan po, let me congratulate you dahil talaga naman hindi tayo nagkaroon ng kakulangan sa supply ng diesel. Pero iyan pong crisis sa Middle East, ano yan eh, anytime pwedeng bumalik eh. Wala pong katapusan yan.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006285

Hindi pang nawawala at pwede pang lumubha.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006286

Ang karamihan po ng mga bansa na hindi masyadong naapektuhan in terms of prices, yung may malalaking reserve. At least diesel. Kasi po, pinakamalaking pangakailangan natin, diesel. Ilan po ba ang reserve natin for, sa ngayon, yung capacity ng reserve natin for diesel. At least for diesel lang.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006287

Yan ang pinakamahalaga sa akin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006288

If you indulge me lang.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006289

If you can indulge me.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006290

We actually created, formulated a fuel transition plan. Because, you're correct, we cannot be dependent on imported fuel. We are 100% dependent on that. Well, 99%. So, our plan is by 2040, bawasan natin ang 50% yan. And how do we get there? We have several plans. There are several components, electric vehicles, more exploration, electrification of our appliances.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006291

Lahat-lahat po, we're working on that. And in addition to that, we need reserves in the country. Unfortunately, our storage facilities are private. Ginagamit lang natin yung binibilang natin. When we tell you in the news there's 50 days, it's in the private facilities.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006292

PNOC, headed by President Chico Alvarez, is setting up, and hopefully within this term, we can set up 1 billion barrels.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006293

Enough for 1 million barrels.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006294

The storage facility na government-owned. Para over time, we increase and increase. It is true that we are protected if we have reserves. Kasi I think it was Yusek Sandy who told me that having reserves not only protects you from the unpredictability or volatility of whatever war there is in the rest of the world, it also shields us, it affects our growth.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006295

Kasi nasi-shield tayo sa currency exchange, sa volatility of the price. So malaki talaga yung advantage sa atin pag meron tayo. So we're working on it already.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006296

Yes, I do understand. Pero sa ngayon po, ilan yung capacity natin, whether public or private storage?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006297

47?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006298

47 million?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006299

47 days, which is about how many?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006300

47 days which would be about how many million liters?

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-006301

That would be about...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006302

Just a figure.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-006303

This one.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006304

Give an estimate.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006305

About 2.7 billion liters.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006306

But that includes yung mga private na owners. Kasi sila, ano naman sila, 15 days lang ang kanilang...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006307

Kasama.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006308

Yung private, 15 days lang ang nire-reserve nila. Kasi syempre, yung kapital, tama.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006309

Okay. Recognize. Sino ba?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006310

Go ahead

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-006311

Lahat po ng storage ngayon, private. Kasi ang industry po natin, deregulate.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006312

I mean yung mga oil distributors. Kasi meron talaga na private na nagpaparenta lang.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006313

Thank you for the last question.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006314

Pero meron naman na mga private companies, meron silang mga estasyon ng gasolina.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006315

Yung kanilang, ang sinasabi nila, ang kanilang kapatid,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006316

15 days lang na reserve. Kasi hindi nila kaya yung kapital.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006317

Kindly answer the last question

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-006318

Yes. When we quote yung, actually, total country volume po yun, yung regional na storage, tama po, hindi ganong kalalaki.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-006319

Ang kinu-quote natin yung entire country storage volume.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006320

Okay. Thank you.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006321

Just one follow-up.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006322

Okay. I will allow you.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006323

Hindi ba pwedeng magkaroon tayo ng target na within government control?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006324

For example, si Alvarez, meron siyang 1 million, public owned.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006325

Pero dapat meron tayong target na kahit privately owned, pero exclusive yung ownership ng Philippine government dun sa reserve.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006326

Para sa ganon, hindi tayo nakadepende sa presyo ng mga private companies.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-006327

Mr. Chair, yes. Yes, kasama po yan ng planning. In terms of the strategic petroleum reserve, kailangan merong regional distribution din.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-006328

Kasi nakikita rin natin yung importance ng regional distribution. And kung ano ang i-store natin, kung crude oil, diesel, gasoline, anong proportion?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006329

Ngayon po, ilan yung reserve natin?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006330

Government?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006331

Government controlled

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006332

That's going to be the last?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006333

Yes.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006334

Pwede pa tayo mag-second round, boss?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006335

Last.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006336

Ano yung reserve na talagang within the control of the government?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006337

Okay. That's the second last question.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-006338

Yung 5 days po na nabili ni PNOC, naka-store po ngayon sa isang private storage.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-006339

5 days.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006340

Okay. Thank you.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-006341

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006342

But sir, we can have a second round.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006343

Huwag naman.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-006344

Masaya na.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006345

Masaya ka na?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006346

So next to interpellate

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006347

From the majority, Congressman Art Yap, my idol, sir.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006348

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006349

Kanina po pagpasok ko, hindi ko alam kung doon ako uupo dito.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006350

Kasi puro congressman rin po doon eh.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006351

Diba?

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006352

Nahanap ko yung...

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006353

Ito yung si Chico yung daw.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006354

Ha?

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006355

Si Chico yung...

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006356

O, isang congressman.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006357

Si Chico yung daw gusto mong salita.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006358

Isa pa.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006359

Si Nani Almeda, congressman rin po yan eh.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006360

O.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006361

At hinahanap ko po yung ano, yung the better Fuentebella

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006362

May sakit.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006363

May sakit.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006364

Ah.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006365

Ah.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006366

Hindi.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006367

Yung takeaway ko po sa...

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006368

Sa ano?

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006369

Sa proceedings this...

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006370

Today is...

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006371

Very much ano naman, pro-active yung DOE at they believe in the power of solar energy.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006372

In fact, Yusek Guevara...

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006373

He mentioned that.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006374

And I'd like to congratulate and thank Secretary Sharon Garin for releasing the Circular on Zero Export Renewable Solar System.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006375

Thank you very much, ma'am po.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006376

But in the same way, may tanong lang po ako doon.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006377

As much as we are now advocating for solar power, dahil ang positive noon, we hope that it will lower consumer cost.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006378

Ano po ang mangyayari doon sa stranded cost ng mga...

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006379

Na mga distribution utilities.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006380

Kasi syempre, nanguntrata po sila for a certain capacity.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006381

And in their areas, pag bumababa na po yung requirement doon sa power, then papano po yung stranded cost?

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006382

Hindi pa po pwedeng sabihin natin sa ERC, Madam Secretary, na i-review po yung mga ano.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006383

At pwede po nilang ano...

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006384

Can I please ask Chairman Juan that?

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006385

Mr. Chairman?

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006386

Posible kaya yun na pag-review nyo, tanggayin nyo po yung stranded cost ng mga distribution utilities.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006387

Kindly use the other mic now, siguro, if it's not functioning.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006388

Pakiayos yung mic

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006389

...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006390

Yeah, let's...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006391

Siguro siya sabi lang nung ano, be concise and brief sa answer mo.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006392

The situation will be akin to the current implementation of the ARCOA,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006393

where we have actually advised our distribution...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006394

utilities entering power supply contracts

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006395

to include in their power supply agreements a carve-out provision.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006396

Also, if there are no carve-out provisions,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006397

and the distribution utilities will be left with excess contracted capacities,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006398

if the distribution utilities will be able to unload or renegotiate with their suppliers

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006399

so that they can have a lowering of the contracted volume,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006400

or unload these excess contracted volumes,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006401

to an affiliate RES,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006402

so that it will be the RES that will be selling this contracted capacity,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006403

or for these distribution utilities to participate in WESM

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006404

by offloading these excess contracted capacities in the WESM.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006405

But, Chairman, pag hindi po pumayag yung providers,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006406

wala na po pang recourse ang distribution utilities?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006407

Because, Sir, ang issue dito, Chairman, is

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006408

we always hear the words in the hearings,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006409

non-impairment, non-impairment.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006410

But, pag hindi po natin gagawin yung police power,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006411

hindi po natin gagamitin yun, the police power of the state,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006412

to lift and to suspend these so-called non-impairment of contracts,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006413

then, yung stranded cost na po yun,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006414

i-charge rin po sa lahat ng consumers na maiiwi,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006415

So, in the one hand, pinopromote po natin sila mag-solar power.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006416

Pagkatapos, yung stranded cost,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006417

maiiwan doon sa mga consumers that do not have the ability

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006418

to procure and to buy their solar power systems.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006419

Mataas pa rin yung singil sa kanila.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006420

At ang sabi po, eh, non-impairment po eh.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006421

But, if we will continue to reason that way,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006422

then the effects, the positive effects of disruptive technologies

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006423

will never be, will never be, will never be,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006424

will never be, will never be, will never be,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006425

will never be enjoyed by the people.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006426

We will look into that, Mr. Chair.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006427

Although, for PSAs that were contracted after the CSP policy of the DOE

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006428

and after we issued the CSP rules in 2023,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006429

we've already prescribed a template for a PSA

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006430

where there's an automatic carve-out provision.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006431

So, kung ang magiging stranded capacities na lang

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006432

ay yung mga hindi na-cover nito mga bagong PSAs,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006433

na walang carve-out,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006434

we will look into how we will be able to assist the distribution utilities

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006435

para ma-offload nila itong kontratang ito

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006436

at hindi naman ma-apekto ang remaining captive customers niya.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006437

Thank you, Chairman.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006438

And you may want to refer to the Supreme Court case,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006439

yung NDC versus Philippine Veterans Bank

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006440

because narecognize po doon na yung sinasabing sanctity

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006441

of non-impairment,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006442

pwede po natin i-override yun.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006443

If the impact is so embedded in public welfare,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006444

pwede po natin gawin yun.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006445

Yung issue rin po sa systems loss,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006446

napag-usapan po natin,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006447

sabi po ni Madam Secretary at least,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006448

yung mga non-technical systems loss will automatically be,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006449

ah,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006450

will solve that problem within one year po.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006451

Pero,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006452

may existing policy po yung National Electrification Administration

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006453

na yung mga distribution utilities are required doon sa sityo electrification

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006454

that they have to keep on increasing

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006455

yung pag-electrify sa mga sityos.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006456

Posible kaya,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006457

tanong ko sa Department of Energy ito

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006458

or sa NEA,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006459

pwede kayang ma-suspend yun?

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006460

Dahil,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006461

kung yung mga distribution utilities,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006462

ipapagpatuloy po natin yung challenge sa kanila,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006463

yung pressure na you keep on electrifying all of those sityos,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006464

aakyat rin po yung technical systems losses.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006465

So,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006466

yung sinasabing yung bababa yung non-technical,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006467

pero aakyat naman yung technical

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006468

dahil puro tayo patayin ang patayin ng sityo electrification,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006469

eh di,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006470

the right hand,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006471

is taking away what the left hand is giving out.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006472

Yes, sir.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006473

Can you pass the mic, please? Sorry.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006474

Mr. Chair, yes, with all the developments surrounding the electric coffee industry,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006475

as in fact, about 30 minutes ago, pinag-uusapan namin ni Congressman Dago,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006476

to give it further study that we, instead of extension, line extension of the city electrification,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006477

only unserviceable and unviable, baka pwede namin i-substitute na lang ng photovoltaic beam streaming

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006478

because it might not really be worthwhile to extend the lines for city electrification

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006479

if it would just add up to the technical systems loss.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006480

And we will do.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006481

We will do a rundown, a study on those pending programs in NEA,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006482

and we will check and we will do a simulation of whether or not it would be better

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006483

just to provide a solar home system rather than line extension

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-006484

to arrest the increase of the technical systems loss.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006485

Salamat po, Congressman Aloneta.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006486

At yung...

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006487

sa ancillary charges po, ito lang po sa ERC.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006488

Yung ancillary charges po natin, Chairman Juan, Mr. Chairman, Madam Secretary,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006489

hindi ba masyadong mahal po ito?

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006490

Like 60% of our transmission charges are ancillary charges.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006491

When this can be brought down to only about 10 or 15%,

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006492

ang laki-laki na binabayad po sa ancillary charges.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006493

Hindi po pinag-uusapan yun?

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006494

Hindi po po pwedeng maibaba po yun?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006495

Okay, thank you for the last question.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006496

Opo, yung pong pinagkukuna ng NGCP na ancillary services,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006497

dalawa po kasi yun, through ASPA o yung kontrata or through the reserve market.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006498

Yung through ASPA, ito po ay dumadaan sa CSP and sa approval ng ERC.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006499

So, stable yung presyo dyan pagdating sa mga contracted volumes.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006500

Ang hindi matiyak ay yung presyohan sa reserve market dahil this is market-based

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006501

and ang existing offer cap dyan sa reserve market ay 25 pesos per kilowatt hour.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006502

At ang nakikita natin, meron nga po kaming pending na proposal sa ERC

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006503

dahil nakikita rin natin na parang napakataas yung lumalabas ng presyo sa reserve market

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006504

at initially ang pinag-propose nga namin ay,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006505

iba ba ito to 9 pesos from 25 to 9 pesos.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006506

So, pinag-aaralan na lang namin yung mga sinubmit na comments and yung mga inputs

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006507

during the public consultation and we will soon decide on this.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006508

And hopefully, kung magkakaroon na ng ibang offer cap na which will be lower than the existing,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006509

it will help temper yung pricing in the reserve market.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006510

And at the same time, it will also signify na yung mga ibang may,

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006511

may capacity na pwedeng pang ancillary ay i-offer na lang nila ito sa NGCP

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006512

under the contract markets through the ASPA

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006513

and mag-participate sila sa mga CSP yung ipapatawag ng NGCP.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006514

Madam Secretary and to the entire DOE family, we wish you the best of luck.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006515

Congress is here to support all of you.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006516

From what I hear, you have a lot of realistic and exciting possible solutions.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006517

So, the challenge is to see it through.

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Rep. Arthur C. Yap

asr-006518

So, thank you to all the resource people.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006519

Thank you, Congressman.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006520

Hearing that from you, former Cabinet Secretary, former Governor, Congressman,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006521

it's a big compliment for the DOE family.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006522

Thank you, boss.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006523

Next, to interpolate from the majority.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006524

Before that, I would like to acknowledge the presence of our Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006525

Congresswoman.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006526

Mika Suansing.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006527

Thank you, ma'am, for being here.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006528

So, next to interpellate is Congressman Javi.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006529

Mr. Chair, Madam Secretary.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006530

Yes, thank you so much.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006531

Alam ko mahabang araw.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006532

So, I'd like to start with thanking Secretary Guerin and the whole DOE.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006533

Nakikita po natin na household electrification is now at 94.93%, di ba?

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006534

And collected since 2022, in July, we are 3.3 million homes.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006535

No?

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006546

So, that's a great feat.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006547

And during the energy emergency, nagita po natin, the department had 1,847 megawatts online.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006548

And especially sa ka-region po namin, sa Sikihore, it's a 24-hour power back.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006549

So, congratulations, Madam Secretary and the whole team.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006550

Gusto ko rin i-commend ang napakagaling na at matapang nating Administrator Almeda ng NEA,

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006551

na accounts 91 cooperatives rated at AAA.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006552

May 154,000 solar home systems on the way. So, congratulations po.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006553

I'm not sure kung na-tanong po ito kanina, pero gusto kong i-clear po yung nangyari sa May 13,

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006554

about sa Tower 17, na may corroded na insulators.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006555

Yung repairs kasi was never finished, if I'm not mistaken.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006556

And then, millions paid for that delay.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006557

First po, in darkness, sa ating mga kababayan.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006558

So, four months on, wala pa yatang case ang na-file.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006559

Is that correct?

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006560

So, I wanted to ask, clearly, if failure in repair, which is a known defect,

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006561

which is in one of our country's most critical corridor, no?

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006562

Is that a violation of NGCP's concession obligations?

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006563

And has the department formally referred this matter to the ERC, Madam Secretary?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006564

Yes, that was critical, but the regulation is under ERC.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006565

And I think the discipline of the stakeholders is under the ERC.

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-006566

Yes, Mr. Chair, we will look into that incident involving that tower,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-006567

and we'll check if that has affected NGCP's performance, reliability performance,

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Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno

asr-006568

and we will act accordingly.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006569

Okay.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006570

Mr. Chair, ito kasi sa Das Marinas, Elysia, na 500 kilowatt line na na-trip.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006571

But, thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006572

I'd like to go on to something that's sa amin, sa Negro Simpanay.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006573

Madam Secretary, it's from Iloilo.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006574

I'm sure you know what I'm going to, but Negro Simpanay only carries 90 megawatts.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006575

And now that there's 68 billion in Cebu-Negros-Panay backbone that was finished in 2024,

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006576

and I want to credit the administration and department for that.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006577

But line 2, I think, still remains unapproved, if that's correct.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006578

And just days ago, we were able to see that ERC pushed for the Amlan-Dumaguete line

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006579

back to March 2027.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006580

So, sa amin po, nag-host po kami ng about 500 megawatts of renewable power.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006581

Pero, 3 out of every 4 megawatts of renewable power,

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006582

4 kilowatt hours we consume, still comes outside of our island.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006583

So, we generate clean power, we export it, and ang nangyayari po sa amin,

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006584

we import ang expensive na kuryente.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006585

So, gusto ko lang po itanong, meron bang timeline na pagfunding sa line 2

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006586

and the final CNP approval?

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006587

And I just want to share na, specifically po sa aming distrito, Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006588

kasi ang challenges po namin, ang daming renewable energy projects na pumapasok,

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006589

which we're very happy.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006590

Kailangan ng pag-process mas smooth, mas mabilis.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006591

Pero, yung kailangan po namin, Cebu-Negro submarine cable.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006592

And number 2, yung sa upgrading ng Granada 230 KV A-line.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006593

And then, yung estimates po natin, there's about 1,300 megawatts projects sa Negros,

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006594

highly to enter 2030.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006595

Pero, ang problema is, meron po tayong post-potential curtailment risks,

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006596

which is about most likely 10%.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006597

Ito po na rin sa Luzon, that there are about 20% to 30% curtailments na.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006598

So, we'd like to hear your answer, Madam Secretary.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006599

Mr. Chair, unfortunately, how the pace that we're going,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006600

generation seems faster than transmission.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006601

But I leave it to President Jomar to answer the two issues,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006602

the CNP, I think that's Cebu-Negro-Spanay, and then the…

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006603

Please go ahead, Mr. Chair.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006604

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006605

To respond, the…

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006606

The Granada KV substation line is part of the priority projects listed by the department.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006607

So, we are working with NGCP on how they can fast-track and complete that project as soon as possible.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006608

For the CNP line, I think you're correct, it's set for 2027.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006609

We continue to monitor the TDP as committed by NGCP.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006610

In fact, currently, we are in consultation with them.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006611

The DOE will also have a session on the TDP of NGCP.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006612

So, next week.

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National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo

asr-006613

So, we can report back to you on that, on the status of those projects.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006614

Mr. Chair, please, dahil ang na-delay na po ito eh, from dapat 2030,

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006615

ang projected 2034, and sayang po yung mga potential projects sa amin.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006616

Actually, may mga pumapasok pa, pero kung hindi kaya ng transmission,

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006617

mukhang may curtailment na naman na iakit.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006618

Mr. Chair, gusto ko lang itanong siguro kung magkano po ba yung profits ng NGCP?

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006619

Ano ba yung pwede nilang, kasi alam ko may mga dividends din yan.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006620

Hindi yata nag-pull through ang dapat na board seats ng Maharlika.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006621

Ano po yung, Madam Secretary, pwede ba natin i-fast-track?

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006622

Or baka pwedeng mas maaga yung upgrades na po ito?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006623

Mr. Chair, before I answer the question, Mr. Chair,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006624

that's why we're pushing also for more, like 50 megawatts of batteries in Negros.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006625

Para i-store pag umaga kasi sobra yung power ninyo.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006626

So i-store siya para pag gabi, then you can use it.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006627

So that could be one solution alternative because fortunately,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006628

or unfortunately, Negros Island doesn't want any fossil-based power.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006629

On the part of, ano yun, yung profit of NGCP,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006630

NGCP,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006631

it's a work in progress.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006632

But they do have, reportedly though, reportedly, if I'm not mistaken,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006633

this was based in last year's research,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006634

they reportedly have dividends of 20 billion a year on average.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006635

And so I cannot tell you what the exact profit of that,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006636

but that's a dividends and it shows.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006637

That there is 20 billion at the very minimum in NGCP.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006638

Now, for their performance,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006639

ERC has the power to regulate.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006640

DOE can issue the policies that concerns them.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006641

But I think, Mr. Chair, if Congress is willing to do so, the legislative,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006642

the powers of the committee and then the Permitting Energy Committee on Franchise

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006643

and also the Joint Committee on Energy also has the power to regulate that.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006644

So it would, if we have a request concerning NGCP,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006645

I think that would be the better avenue if the Congress can review their performance

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006646

on the franchise that is given to them.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006647

Thank you, Madam Secretary and Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006648

One last question before I close.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006649

Rigo, ano yung?

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006654

AI and tech, you mentioned that, nandun din po sa inyong presentation.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006655

Ano po yung bago niyong ginagawa sa DOE na makakatulong para sa inyong departamento?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006656

Thank you for asking because this is one of our most exciting projects.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006657

Now, with us here, is Yusek Sasa.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006658

She's new to the DOE but she's helping us in full automation of DOE.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006659

From DBM, yeah.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006660

Sa ano na.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006661

Na pirate.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006662

Yusek Sasa.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006663

Nakita ko sa TV po kanina.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006664

I'll press.

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006665

Alright, Mr. Chair, for the Department of Energy, as you know, one of the marching orders of the Secretary is to automate and make the stakeholders' lives easier with respect to their dealing with the DOE.

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006666

So, we're setting up a digital front.

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006667

door for stakeholders and with the EVOS and all of the foreign investors and other companies that are interacting with the department.

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006668

Apart from that, we are making the data consolidated so under a regulatory standpoint, DOE will be able to have a grasp of all the data that we have so we can properly analyze.

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006669

Determine patterns and anomalies in all of the scope or the mandates of the department.

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006670

And not just that, Mr. Chair, we are also integrating with NEA and ERC and other attached agencies of the department so we are able to do a very robust data sharing platform.

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006671

So, right now, in 2026, we have 350 million.

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006672

We have 250 million budget to set up the infrastructure to put it all together in centralized.

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006673

way and and in 2027 um a large chunk of our budget proposal will be to scale up um because we have um

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006674

a two-year deadline it's like uh told me to finish everything within two years so we have to

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006675

um make everything fast um and we are engaging a lot of stakeholders not just internally in doee

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006676

but also we're getting user stories from from our stakeholders or the users from other from from

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006677

the energy company so we are able to make their lives easier like we're using artificial

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DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario

asr-006678

intelligence to um to make their submissions um you know more seamless thank you so mr chair

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006679

before i yield i'd like to ask the secretary if we can

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006680

have a few commitments.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006681

One is, can we get a root cause analysis report of the May 13 line, doon po sa 500 kilovolt?

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006682

And then a year-by-year table of NGCP's dividends across the construction spending nila.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006683

And yung third, please, yung sa Line 2 and CNP approval po ng ating NGCP lines sa Negros, dahil tinututukan po natin ’yan.

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006684

and to end i'd like just to say that the world bank says that if we fix the grid open the market

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006685

our families could

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006686

pay up to 30% less for power. So iyan po yung ating hope. I'd like to manifest that I also

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006687

agree with the increase of the budget of the Department of Energy at 25-something percent dahil

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006688

energy should be a top priority po sa ating bansa. So

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Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez

asr-006689

Maraming salamat po, Mr. Chair. I defer.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006690

deliver uh within uh yes within the week thank you thank you

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006691

yampong congressman

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006692

namin na guapo

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006693

binata

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006694

uh

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006695

atiba pa

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006696

okay so

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006697

next uh for the second round

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006698

we have from the minority

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006699

uh congressman

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006700

you have 20 minutes

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006701

pa uwi na si

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006702

sekretary

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006703

most of my

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006704

concerns uh

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006705

second round are

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006706

more on recommendations

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006707

uh first of all

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006708

for the record uh uh on our

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006709

Mr. Chair, I would like to put on record that the special provisions on the relocation of

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006710

poles, which we allow in the 2026 GAA, is no longer found in the 2027 NIP.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006711

So I am requesting, Mr. Chair, that that should be rectified in the proper time.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006712

Let us go back to that, because DPWH and NIA already have funds that can be transferred,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006713

but they are not in the NIP's special provision now.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006714

In the proper time, you are the sponsor.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006715

Remember that.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006716

Yes, noted.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006717

Balikan natin.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006718

ComSec, paki-note na.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006719

Pag hindi nangyari, kasalanan mo ha.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006720

Pangalawa po, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006721

Narinig ko kanina na may request ang

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006722

ERC doon sa rectification nung mga

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006723

na-reduce na budget nila. Alam naman po natin gaano

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006724

kahalaga yung mga request na 'yon, lalong-lalo na sa ERC.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006725

We are all affected pagka

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006726

nagkaroon ng delay yung approval ng PSA, magkaroon ng EPSA.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006727

Ay, naku.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006728

Kaya ayun,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006729

nineteen pesos per kilowatt hour,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006730

twenty pesos.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006731

20 pesos. So, tulungan naman po sana ng committee yung ERC. Kaya nga doon sa ERC

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006732

strengthening, nilagyan natin ng provision na 50% doon sa mga peace and

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006733

charges na kulikta nila, ititira sa kanila. Kaso, nasa Senate pa po yung

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006734

usapan. So, while we are waiting for that measure to be passed into law, sana

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006735

tulungan ng committee yung request ng NEA at saka ng department o at ang

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006736

Energy Regulatory Commission. Kandi presiding chair and chair mismo, sure

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006737

natutulungan natin yung dalawa, may balik yung man lang yung kahit portion

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006738

doon sa nawala na budget nila na proposal. ERC at saka NEA, mga

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006739

important people.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006740

Yes, actually as the sponsor.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006741

Talagang tutulungan ko talaga. But it will go through the process. Through BARC and

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006742

even sa EXICOM and even sa plenary. So, it's not really up to us. But if you're

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006743

asking for my commitment, I'm very committed to help the DOE family.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006744

So, commitment ng committee, hindi lang commitment ng...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006745

Yes, yes. You have to go through the process. Kung ako lang po yung gagawa,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006746

baboto, di tapos na yung usapan. But it will have to go through the process.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006747

Because the fiscal space now is very tight. So, we have to see, we have to balance it.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006748

So, may process po tayo. BARC, it's a budget, amendment, review subcommittee, yung mga small

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006749

committees, wala na po yan. Naka-streamline po yan. Kaya nga po siya sabi namin sa inyo,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006750

lahat ng hinihinin nyo, i-address yun na kay Speaker Bojidi through Chairperson Mika

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006751

Swan Singh. Because sa BARC po, hindi kami nagdi-discuss, naglalagay, nag-insert o

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006752

nag-amend kung wala nag-eminate sa agency. Okay? Kaya pinapasulat na namin po kayo.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006753

And we decide as a whole. And plus, dadaan pa po yan sa EXICOM, sa committee, sa

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006754

appropriation. Magdi-decide pa po yun. And after that, dadaan pa po sa plenary.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006755

It's the body who will decide. But to fight it out, yung mga kailangan nyo, I'm committed

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006756

to fight it out. Dahil alam ko kailangan nyo. And you are performing. That's why I'm

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006757

accepted to be the sponsor of the DOE family. And even lalo na ERC. Because in the time

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006758

of crisis, nakita po namin yung galaw nyo. Napakahirap po noon. Kung wala po kayo, baka

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006759

mas bagsak na ang bayan po natin. So whatever you need, we will fight it out. But you have

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006760

to understand the situation of the fiscal space ng ating budget po ngayon.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006761

Thank you for the comment.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006762

Thank you for the comment, Mr. President. Andami nating inuutos kasi sa NIA, sa ERC,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006763

sa DOE. Pero parang kulab tayo. Baka matapyasan yung mga plan-plan-plan control na yan. Kasi

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006764

lahat tayo apiktado dito sa agency na to. So doon sa kanina nakagip na issue ko, Mr.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006765

Chair.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006766

I appeal to the Secretary to seriously consider the amendment of the CSP. Yung sabi ko kanina,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006767

to avoid yung mataas na nodal price, baka magkaroon ng right of first refusal. Yung ano, nandoon

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006768

na ba?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006769

Tapos na?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006770

In fact, we...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006771

Nag-re-propose pa lang? Tapos na, ma'am?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006772

No, he's been telling me that for four years already.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006773

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006774

Tapos na pa lang.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006775

Okay.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006776

And then also, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006777

Yung ano, yung pinakamalapit preference to pinakamalapit na planta sa CSP.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006778

Kasi doon mayuwasan natin yung mga nodal na mataas. May I ask, Chair Neno, di ba ancillary, regulated natin yung ancillary?

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006779

For the ASPAS, yes, Mr. Chair. The contract. But for the reserve market, the one that we approved was the...

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-006780

The price determination methodology based on the WESM rules.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006781

Ito kasi ang issue ko diyan, ngayon lang nag-MLD kami sa Mindanao. Kaya nag-plucked with yung si Argao tatlong bisis. Yung mga Amerikano doon, nag-re-reklamo na naman.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006782

Yung pala, nag-MLD na si Aniko, Tinmiga, ganon-ganon. So, can we account? Can we require NGCP? Ano-ano ba yung mga planta na under sa ASPA?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006783

Gusto ko malaman kung talagang may nagawa yung binabayaran natin na ancillary. Kasi in layman's understanding, ay back-up yun.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006784

Kung may generator ako sa bahay, nagbayad ako ng operator kahit naka-standby lang. Tapos nawala yung ano ko sa distribution utility ko. Hindi pala maka-under yung generator ko. E di wala silbi. Nagbayad tayo ng ancillary. Pero nag-manual or dropping pa rin tayo.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006785

Saan yung binabayaran natin na back-up kung magkaroon tayo ng interruption? So, gusto nating i-account yan, Mr. Chair. Napakahalaga po yung usaping ito.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006786

We need to require the system operator to account. Sino solo yung mga planta na naka-ASPA? Tapos saan yung location? Saan ginagamit?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006787

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006788

In a situation na nagkaroon ng mga post-outages yung mga beast load natin, nagamit ba talaga yung mga planta na yun? Otherwise, nagbabayad tayo ng isang planta tatlong beses.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006789

Baka yung isang planta na yan, Mr. Chair, 100 mega. Ang bilateral lang 80. Bininta nila ngayon sa ASPA yung 10. Tapos yung 10 bininta sa reserve market.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006790

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006791

Baka yung isang planta, ginamit na beast load, ginamit na ancillary. So, medyo kailangan nating i-account yan. Although, additional na trabaho ito ng ERC. Pero, NGCP is a regulated entity. Yung nangulikta niyan.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006792

Tingnan natin, mayroon ba talagang nagamit na ancillary every time na sinisingil tayo ng ancillary services charge?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006793

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006794

Kasi 22% na ngayon yung patong from the previous billing period. Lumubo na ng 30% plus ngayon sa August na billing period. But still, may yellow, may red alert, may manual load dropping pa rin tayo. Sana gamit yung binayaran natin na backup na ancillary.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006795

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006796

Then, finally, doon sa sityo electrification, ako po yung nababahala. Bilang isang dating lineman, alam ko po kung ano yung standard na systems laws sa isang rural area served by an electric cooperative. Based on the standard ng US, na doon natin kinupya tong rural electrification program ng Pilipinas, 12% po yan.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006797

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006798

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006799

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006800

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006801

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006802

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006803

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006804

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006805

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006806

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006807

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006808

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006809

Okay.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006817

If the NIA will agree, baka po pwedeng para lang nasa special provision sakaan natin, na anytime the NIA will decide to do this, the NIA can drop a special provision.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006818

Now, kung saka-sakali, after evaluation ng NIA, mas favorable pa economically and technically.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006819

Now, instead of extending the line, ay lagyan na lang natin ng solar doon, panel, lagyan natin ng battery storage na equivalent doon sa requirement nung sitio na yan, o yung bayan na yan, atuturuan natin, itrain natin na mag-operate sila, without extending the line, nagkaroon din tayo ng sitio electrification program.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006820

That is a very practical solution.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006821

Yes.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006822

Mr. Chair, yung area ninyo, area namin, Eastern Samar, ay doon po dumadaan ang bagyo, pero nakita ko po sa NIP, 200 million pa rin yung iserp, 200 million pa rin yung iserp.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006823

So, I think NIA should, again, request the speaker, the leadership, na dagdagan yan, kasi pag nag-transforce, libre na nga yung mga line money, pero yung pagkain na Manila doon,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006824

So, napakaliit po yung 200 million, dalawang bagyo lang yun, tapos na po.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006825

So, if the NIA will agree on my proposal, pwede nasing maglagyan doon in the proper time yung special provision na the NIA may opt to use new technology instead of extending the line in the case of sitio electrification.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006826

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006827

Agree.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006828

Agree.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006829

Yun lang.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006830

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006831

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006832

Thank you sa Congressman Dagoog.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006833

Ma'am, last term na po ni Congressman Dagoog.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006834

So, kung kailangan nyo sa NIA, kahit saan, energy family, mapapakinabangan nyo po yan.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006835

No, we will miss them, boss.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006836

I salute you, actually.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006837

Yeah.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006838

Ma'am?

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006839

Yeah.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006849

I salute you, actually.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006850

Yeah, ma’am?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006851

Yeah, just for the last,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006852

just to wrap up the...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006853

Ayun, ah, meron pa, mamaya na lang.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006854

Okay, thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006855

So, for the second round,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006856

we have Congressman Tinio.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-006857

Sir, you have the floor.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006858

Thank you, Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006859

Last, kanina I asked

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006860

for a status report on yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006861

direct purchase ng DOE for diesel

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006862

at the height of the energy crisis.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006863

Sabi, nandiyan pa pero partly

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006864

binigay sa NAPOCOR.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006865

Baka pwedeng mapakinggan lang natin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006866

Nakita ko ang kasamahan natin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006867

si former Congressman Coco,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006868

now President of NAPOCOR.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006869

Ano pong nangyari doon sa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006870

binili ninyo? Tama ba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006871

Binili ba? At anong presyo?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006872

Etcetera.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006887

Mr. Chair, when we purchased diesel na ginagamit ng Napocor ang diesel sa mga isla niya, they were affected. They would be directly affected. Iaakit yung presyo doon ng electricity.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006888

So, as a directive, I gave PNOC the authority to sell it to Napocor for generation of electricity at a preferential rate para hindi naman mag-suffer yung mga taga-isla natin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006889

And that worked with them for a while. I think about, siguro kung mga 80 yung presyo, 60 pesos ba yung binigay.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006890

At a loss naman na binigay.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006891

Binenta ng PNOC. But I think that's a sacrifice that we were willing to do para hindi naman mag-suffer yung mga consumers ng isla.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006892

So, actually, itong magkatabi pala yung nag-deal. PNOC to Napocor, correct?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006893

PNOC is easy. Hindi pala, siko.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006894

Okay. President Nograles, ibig ba sabihin nito?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006895

Nakamura sa kuryente yung pagbili ng diesel from PNOC easy?

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-006896

Thank you, Mr. Chair, for the question. Opo, nakamura po sa kuryente dahil yung pagbili po ng Napocor sa PNOC easy ay mas mura po sa mga current suppliers ng Napocor.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-006897

Ang impact po niyan ay hindi po malaki yung strain sa UCME na napupunta.

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-006898

Doon sa mga consumers.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006899

And how much was purchased by Napocor?

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-006900

Umiiba po yung presyo dahil dynamic po yung pricing.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006901

From PNOC?

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-006902

Opo, umiiba po yung presyo but all in all yung na-drawdown po namin sa PNOC easy is 27 million liters.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006903

27 million liters?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006904

Opo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006905

Okay. So, yan yung para sa mga diesel.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006906

Ano na po ba yung mga?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006907

Sa Napocor plants niyo pa?

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-006908

Nag-serve po yan doon sa aming mga diesel power plants sa mga isla, sa missionary electrification areas. So, doon po sa mga areas na yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006909

Yung mga barges? Is that it?

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NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles

asr-006910

Mostly mga small generators po. Sub 500 kilowatts.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006911

Okay. Sige. Anyway, I asked for a report on that. Thank you po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006912

Ang sunod na mga tanong ko.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006913

Actually, this has to do with the Luzon Economic Corridor.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006914

And makita namin sa website ng U.S. Embassy, meron silang mga announcements about energy-related projects na actually parang mas narinig pa natin ito sa U.S. Embassy kaysa sa Philippine government.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006915

So, kaya gusto natin marinig yung direkta sa gobyerno natin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006916

So, yan nakalagay dito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006917

That yung mga involvement daw ng U.S. in one, nuclear, two, in yung mga fuel pipeline, hydro, and so on and so forth.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006918

So, with regard to nuclear energy, binanggit po dito yung 1-2-3 agreement.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006919

At saka may mga pinupondohan ng U.S. like an SMR feasibility study, a nuclear reactor control room study.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006920

Simulator, study tour for Philippine legislators on nuclear, and so on and so forth.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006921

Nandiyan po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006922

Alam ko po si Sec. Garin, when she was still U.S. Sec., was closely involved with the 1-2-3 agreement.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006923

So, pwede po bang makapagbigay kayo ng updates and ano ba talaga ang status ng mga...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006924

nuclear energy sa plano ng Pilipinas?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006925

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006926

Actually, the activity, the nuclear-related activities mentioned here, that's not necessarily just because of the Luzon Economic Corridor.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006927

We've been doing this for a long time already.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006928

Some of the studies, like feasibility study, are done with private entities.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006929

So, wala kami dyan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006930

They talk directly to the types of Miralco, or I don't know if they talk to Aboitis and all the other companies.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006931

Sila kasi interested din sa nuclear.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006932

But some of these activities, yes, we do the simulator.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006933

We're trying to lock that in.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006934

Also, the trade mission, we do that every year.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006935

Not only with the U.S., but all the other countries.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006936

So, tama naman yung marami dito, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006937

Now, what is the status of nuclear?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006938

Nuclear is, currently, we already have a roadmap.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006939

But, unfortunately, our original roadmap was based on SMR, which could have entailed shorter construction.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006940

Pero ngayon, parang it seems like limited yung options on SMR.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006941

And maybe we'll go for conventional.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006942

But that's something that we have to study further.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006943

But our target is still steady.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006944

We want nuclear energy by...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006945

The next decade.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006946

It will take time, depending on where it will be.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006947

So, kumpleto na po yan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006948

We are complying with the international requirements on safety, security, and safeguards.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006949

At that, training ng tao, supply chain assess, evaluation, legal, international cooperation.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006950

Everything else, we're trying to complete.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006951

And, in fact, we have been reviewed by IAEA na pumasa na kami sa...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006952

Ano ba?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006953

In your mission.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006954

In year two, ba?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006955

In year two.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006956

So, papunta na tayo sa...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006957

Pag pumasa tayo sa next level, pwede na tayo mag-construct.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006958

What's lacking now is the regulatory on the safety, which is the fill atom na pinasa natin last year.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006959

It has to be organized and the IRR has to be issued.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006960

So, once that's there, I think the interested parties can already apply na sa fill atom.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006961

And sa amin kasi, it's more on energy lang.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006962

Pero the safety.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006963

The technology has to go through rigorous evaluation through fill atom.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006964

So, ang nasa plano ng DOE initially is SMR.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006965

Pero ngayon sinasabi nyo, baka hindi na SMR conventional.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006966

It depends, Mr. Chair.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006967

It depends on the appetite of the investor.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006968

Kasi wala namang...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006969

Let's just say, I'll give you a ballpark of how much it will cost.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006970

Pag conventional, mga 10 billion dollars.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006971

Pag SMR, mga 4 billion.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006972

Malaki pa rin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006973

Billion.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006974

Billion dollars.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006975

So, it's still big.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006976

So, you need enough funding.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006977

And I don't think government, even in a regular power plant, di naman tayo yung nag-invest.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006978

Private na money.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006979

So, we will rely solely on the decision of the private.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006980

Sa funding, mostly.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006981

Yung 10 billion and 4 billion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006982

Yung 10 billion, US yung provider.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006983

No, no, no.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006984

It's an average.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006985

All the technologies, yes.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006986

Kino-consider nyo rin ba yung China as a provider?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006987

We actually invited China for our next forum.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006988

So, we can talk to them what's to offer.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006989

We're just exploring so we would know what are the technologies available and how much it will cost.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006990

So, Korea, China, Japan, Canada, US.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006991

France, those are the main players right now.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006992

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006993

Dito po sa, again, US Embassy site, meron daw Energy Secure Philippines program with 24 million dollars funding,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006994

which includes upgrading power systems at military installations, deploying backup power solutions,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006995

and investing in microgrids and energy storage.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006996

Involved po ba kayo dito?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-006997

24 million.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006998

Nabanggit siyo kayo?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-006999

24 million.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007000

Kanina sa Visayas, nag-deploy kayo ng energy storage.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007001

Is this part of it?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007002

These are, if I understand correctly, Mr. Chair, these are mostly technical assistance.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007003

Mga, they study, we ask them to study something and then, yes, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007004

So, involved kayo dito?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007005

Ang simulator ng US kasama dyan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007006

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007007

Itong Energy Secure Philippines program, are you involved in this as well?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007008

Maybe Yusef Kebara can explain for you.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007009

Yes, Yusef Kebara.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007010

Through the USAID.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007011

Yes.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007012

Of our office.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007013

It used to be a USAID, but now it's under the US Department of State.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007014

They have hired consultants for this program.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007015

Tapos po yung project na yan, hindi lang po DOE ang kasama magde-benefit,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007016

pati po yung other government agencies like DENR at saka DOST.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007017

So, yung pong nakalista dyan, kunyari yung simulator, mahal po yun.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007018

Malaki po dun sa 24 million dollars ang magagastos doon.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007019

Tapos yung pong sinasabi niya na for emergency, yun po yung aming emergency system na pinapadala sa mga areas pagkatapos ng bagyo

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007020

or doon sa areas na walang kuryente na na-mention kanina na part ng budget po namin for next year.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007021

Ano yung pinapadala nyo? Could you give more details?

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007022

It looks like a container van na merong solar panels na lumalaking ganyan,

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007023

tapos may batteries pusa siya sa loob.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007024

So, magpo-provide po siya ng power.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007025

How much power?

Source

DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007026

10 kilowatts and higher po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007027

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007028

Binanggit din dito, sub-eclart fuel pipeline.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007029

And let me expand to yung fuel storage.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007030

Sabi kanina, yung binili ng PNOC is stored in commercial facilities kasi wala naman ng gobyerno.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007031

Tama po.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007032

Mr. Chair, we can review the documents.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007033

Some of these are not really that accurate because...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007034

Ha, ganyan pa ba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007035

Fair or wrong to you?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007036

Fake news or parang gano'n, kinokontest mo yung mga ina-announce ng U.S. Embassy?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007037

Mostly are studies. Most are studies.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007038

These are not actually infrastructure or capital outlay.

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DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara

asr-007039

Mga studies, most of these things.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007040

Okay. Well, kaya nga po, ito sinasabi ng gobyerno ng U.S. sa Pilipinas.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007041

Sa U.S. Embassy, ngayon medyo kinokontest nyo.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007042

So, importante.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007043

Bansa natin ito eh. Ano ba talaga?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007044

So, please clarify.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007045

Please provide yung mga information on...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007046

Yung clarification nyo, please provide in writing.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007047

Pero yung sa fuel storage.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007048

So, concerned po natin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007049

Yung pinakamalaking facility yung nasa Subic, tama po ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007050

Yung coastal, fuel coastal.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007051

Philippine Coastal Storage and Pipeline Corporation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007052

But it is owned by a U.S. investment firm, I Squared Capital, correct?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007053

Yes, yes, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007054

So, hindi pag-aari ng Pilipinas.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007055

Okay. And so, 20% of our fuel storage is there. Tama?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007056

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007057

Okay. Pag-aari ng Amerikano.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007058

No.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007059

And...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007060

Kaya nga, importante yung usapin ng...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007061

But five minutes ka pa ulit.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007062

Ah, wow. Talaga.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007063

Sige, matatapos na po tayo, Chair.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007064

Sige po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007065

You were saying?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007066

Yes, Mr. Chair. It has been bought by an American company.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007067

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007068

Okay. And...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007069

Yung facility sa Subic...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007070

I mean, it's a commercial facility. So, lahat pwedeng gumamit.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007071

Including the U.S. Navy, for example, correct?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007072

I assume so, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007073

Okay. And then, the U.S. also announced through their embassy

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007074

na mayroon naman silang planong magtayo sa Davao Gulf

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007075

a fuel depo... I mean, mangontrata ng one million barrel fuel storage facility

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007076

or depo.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007077

Tama rin po.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007078

We have not been informed officially, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007079

You have not been informed. Although, it's already on the U.S. State Department website.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007080

We don't monitor their website.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007081

Pero, Mr. Chair...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007082

So, hindi nyo alam. Pero, would you be involved in any way in this?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007083

Or is this purely a commercial transaction?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007084

Any project that would bring energy and fuel will have to go through us for permit, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007085

Ang punto po ay...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007086

Um...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007087

Of course, the Philippines has a finite number...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007088

I mean, capacity for fuel storage.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007089

Tapos, may mga pangangailangan tayo.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007090

At the same time, mayroon tayong defense agreements

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007091

which allow the United States to...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007092

In fact, yun ang plano nila.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007093

Mag-expand ng fuel storage, hindi lang sa Subic, kung hindi ngayon, pati sa Davao Gulf.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007094

So, ano pa ang gagawin ng DOE to ensure that ang aral ng gera sa Iran ay kailangan meron tayong strategic reserve na, diba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007095

Pero, itong hindi pag-aari ng Pilipinas yung mga fuel storage facilities.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007096

Okay. Thank you for that last question.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007097

Please answer.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007098

Mr. Chair, that's why we are...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007099

pushing for our own strategic reserve our own infrastructure for that which is being done by

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007100

pnoc and hopefully they can finish in a year and a half for the construction mr chair we start with

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007101

1 million barrels and then scale it up they need about 8 billion they'll use their corporate funds

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007102

for that so uh now it's not just the u.s that is approaching the philippines for storage or even

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007103

for refinery we have had meetings with japanese kuwaiti uh uae uh saudi several several countries

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007104

are actually looking at the philippines already uh u.s actually we haven't met officially of any

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007105

with any u.s company as of yet uh but right now i would assure you that it's not just u.s that's

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007106

looking in the Philippines, it's many countries.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007106-split-2

Thank you, um, you can have your third round if

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007107

you

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007108

want

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007109

Ah, yes. Thank you, Chair. [unclear] Pahingi na lang po ng mga written na [unclear] report, for example from the PNOC, yung kanina pa in my earlier interpellation. Yes na lang po. Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007109-split-2

But if you want the third round, continue. I will give it to you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007110

So, next to interpellate, Congressman Espares. You are recognized.

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007111

for this short interpellation um before my short question and uh manifestation of course uh i would

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007112

like to express my support not to the budget of the doa especially the secretary is from my region

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007113

so from elilo now mr chair um i don't know i think nia or any other agency who could

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007114

answer my query and some clarification and of course request now this is about on the

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007115

uh distribute distribution um entity okay your electric coops your distribution um i have

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007116

encountered a lot of provinces by this time because my concern is more on the establishment

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007117

of cooperatives especially post-harvest facilities now we are um proposing and

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007118

requinding with them the use of the solar power because these are rice mills these are cold

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007119

storages um this is exposed to the current but then i learned a lot especially minduro

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007120

uh our electric coops there don't want to install or they're not capable

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007121

for the

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007122

the net metering so sayang naman yung may tapon na mga uh electric power or electricity

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007123

sa sa araw kasi minsan ah diba hindi naman sabihin natin na ah straight yan for ah ah

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007124

all the time no minsan nahihinto din sila so what will happen to the excess so kung

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007125

may net metering yun more or less ah makabawas pa yan sa kanilang billing so malaking bagay

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007126

kasi una una mga ma malaking facility to so hindi mo pwede ilagyan lang ito ng medyong

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007127

maliliit liit no plus of course will benefit dito yung mga residential dyan sa area na

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007128

capable for

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007129

the insulation of the solar power so again i would like to request kong anong distribution

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007130

facility or anong tawag yan anong entity like electric coops or any other ah operator

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007131

na kung ilan ba ang capable na for the net metering so ilan ba sila ngayon ang okay

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007132

we'll make a report if we can come up with it but uh uh mr chair we will uh we reinforce the

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007133

uh information campaign to the electric cost para malaman nila na may net metering na and

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007134

it's just a matter of educating the capacity building nila

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007135

mr chair what the agency could do pag alam nila na isang area na na may nag-operate ng

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007136

distributor company na hanggang ngayon wala pa silang capability to

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007137

install the net metering gadget or di ba meter lang naman papalitan wala naman silang

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007138

in general naman most of the deus and the electric cooperatives can can accommodate

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007139

net metering

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007140

but if there's any violation or in kappa and these are capable then we will report it to

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007141

NEA for NEA to take action, Mr. Chair

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007141-split-2

okay thank you so again uh from NEA siguro can you can i get

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007142

the list kong anong mga uh operator pa ang hindi pa capable for the net metering

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007143

i i was just kind of surprised because uh the net metering is a national policy as issued by the

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007144

DOE, so let me just check on the sites that you mentioned

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007144-split-2

Topic lang yung experience

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007145

'Yung experience ko, Mr. Chair, doon sa Oriental Mindoro.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007146

Yes. Um, actually tama si Congressman [unclear]. Kaya ako po nahihirapan sa metering. So, we will submit.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007147

We'll submit that to you. One or two sa [unclear].

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007148

Parang two. [unclear] two. So,

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007149

Ang tanong ninyo, Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007150

anong gawin ng agency?

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007165

So, hindi pa rin sila nag-implement.

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007166

Dahil kung walang regulatory body dito na mag-force sa kanila,

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007167

so, on their own choice,

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007168

pabayaan na lang nila.

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007169

So, kawawa naman yung gusto mag-avail.

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007170

The question is, what can you do?

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007171

Yes, Mr. Chair.

Source

DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007172

NEA and ERC has the authority to reprimand or penalize.

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007173

Will there be a...

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007174

Mr. Chair, will there be a...

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007175

Maybe a...

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007176

Ano na lang?

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007177

Ang written report.

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007178

Sige, malaman natin yan pag umabas yung report.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007179

Write a written complaint, sir, para ma-action po nila.

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007180

Okay.

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007181

But then, I need the report, Mr. Chair, as requested.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007182

Yes, you are directed to submit.

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007183

Thank you.

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Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007184

Yes, Mr. Chair.

Source

Rep. Felimon M. Espares

asr-007185

Mr. Chair, thank you very much for this opportunity.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007186

Thank you.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007187

And before I recognize for the third round,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007188

I would like to recognize SDS Dinan Hernandez,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007189

your sponsor before,

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007190

but now he's a senior deputy.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007191

He's a senior deputy speaker.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007192

Yeah.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007193

Ay, di mo yan magtatanong sponsor niyo tapos tatanong.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007194

Representative Dina Siso

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007195

and Representative Munir Arbisan, Jr.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007196

Thank you, sir.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007197

Welcome.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007198

For the third round, last, I'll give you two minutes.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007199

Congressman Tino, kumakain ka pa?

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007200

Kain di swallow your food?

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007201

Thank you, Chair.

Source

Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007202

Thank you, Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007203

Chair,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007204

Importante po yung sinabi kanina ng DOE na

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007205

yung mga paayag ng U.S. Embassy sa kanilang website

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007206

tungkol sa energy plants,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007207

parang sa kanila, sa kanilang intindi,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007208

hindi eksaktong ganun, di ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007209

So, in the same way that the BCDA issued a public clarification,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007210

kasi ang announcement ng U.S. Embassy sa kanilang website din,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007211

na yung Paxilica daw will have joint governance

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007212

sa itatayo nilang HAB,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007213

na ang ibig sabihin ay hindi ihilalang batas ng Pilipinas

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007214

kung hindi batas ng U.S., parang ganun, di ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007215

Diplomatic immunity and so on.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007216

So, ang inihiling lang po natin ay mag-issue din ng public clarification,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007217

hanggating DOE, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007218

To set the record straight, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007219

Kasi kung may sinasabi ang U.S. na may kinalaman sa,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007220

you know, whether it's nuclear power or the Subiclark pipeline,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007221

and so on and so forth,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007222

na sinasabi nyo, hindi naman exactly ganun yan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007223

Kailangan lang po maglinaw.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007224

So, yun po inihihin natin na makapag-issue ng clarificatory statement,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007225

as needed, ang sarili nating gobyerno sa sarili nating bansa.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007226

Okay po ba yun?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007227

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007228

Before you answer, can I yield the chair to...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007229

Yes, yes, Dilan.

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007230

Yes, sir.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007231

So, Chair, I reiterate my request to the...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007232

Yes, Mr. Chair, we'll do the assessment and we'll make clarifications if...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007233

Thank you. Thank you to the Secretary.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007234

Hanggan do na lang po ako, Mr. Chair. Thank you po.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007235

Thank you.

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007236

I don't think there's any more interpolators.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007237

If there's no interpolators, can we just mention the asks of our...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007238

It's not exactly a... It's just a small notation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007239

Chair, dahil total. O, isa na lang po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007240

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007241

Magtanong daw sa PNOC, eh.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007242

Chair, ano na ang status ng...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007243

Recto Bank.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007244

You know, alam... May kinalaman pa kayo doon?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007245

Ah, wala rin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007246

No, pero tatanong ko pa rin sa DOE in general.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007247

Alam naman natin, napakahalaga ng malampaya.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007248

It still supplies something like, isn't it, 25% of the Luzon grid or something like that.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007249

Pero alam din naman natin, kahit may bagong mga wells, pero ilang taon na rin lang yan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007250

And then now we will have to depend on...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007251

Expensive LNG imports.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007252

In the meantime, nandun yung Recto Bank.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007253

So, ah...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007254

Ang alam natin, nakaabang lang yung private, ah...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007255

Contractor, service provider.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007256

Para ma-export to.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007257

So, what is the status? Anong plano?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007258

Bakit walang galaw dito?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007259

At involved din ba ang DOE?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007260

Sa sinasabi ng Pangulo, na magkakaroon daw ng joint...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007261

Some sort of joint development of energy resources in the West Philippine Sea.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007262

Go ahead, Yusef.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007263

Go ahead. Thank you.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007264

With regard sa West Philippine Sea, actually, sa DOE, ang tawag natin dyan,

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007265

Northwest, offshore Northwest Palawan.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007266

Para mas...

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007267

Mas malapit sa atin.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007268

Offshore Northwest.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007269

Pero in particular, yung tinatawag po nating Recto Bank o RID Bank, okay?

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007270

May service contract po ngayon dyan.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007271

And normally, ang commercial, the way its partnership works is,

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007272

may service contractor nakikipag-farm in yung potential partner dyan.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007273

Ang primary law dyan is that any exploration...

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007274

ng oil and gas, kailangan may service contract from the government.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007275

And I think, yun lang ating single basis for having any joint activity.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007276

It has to fall under our service contract system.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007277

Thank you, Yusef.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007278

Napakagaling nung sumagot habang may hawak pa kayong hamburger.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007279

I don't know.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007280

Yes.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007281

Napakagaling mo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007282

Yes, Chair.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007283

May existing service contract, it's still...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007284

May pa rin yun, tama po ba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007285

Ang alam ko ngayon, ang ginagawa ng Department of Energy with service contracts,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007286

sa renewable, for example, pagka hindi ini-implement, kinaka-cancel nyo, diba?

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007287

Magka-iba po yung batas at patakaran.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007288

Under...

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007289

Sa ngayon kasi, we must all admit na it is a bigger issue in terms of geopolitical conditions

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007290

surrounding yung...

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007291

And of course, ngayon, although may service contract po tayo dyan, there is a moratorium

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007292

on working on that area because of the larger issues involved.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007293

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007294

Thank you.

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DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales

asr-007295

Thank you.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007296

I think that's the last question.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007297

Parang ganon.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007298

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007299

Thank you for the last question.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007300

Thank you, Chair.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007301

Okay.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007302

So, since there are no more interpollators, I would like to recognize Chairman...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007303

Ma'am, you have the floor.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007304

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007305

Kong Arnie, our vice chairperson who will be sponsoring the budget of DOE and all of the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007306

attached agencies and ERC.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007307

So, Siguro Po, a sec.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007308

I just wanted to echo.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007309

I've been discussing with Kong Arnie for the past 30 minutes to an hour.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007310

And really, we have nothing but commendation to the DOE family, the ERC.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007311

We've been discussing a lot since we last saw you in the last budget deliberations.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007312

A lot has been done by the DOE family.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007313

I mean, local, in terms of disaster response, a lot has happened, different parts of the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007314

country.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007315

Of course, the response to the Middle East crisis.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007316

So, so much has happened.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007317

And last year, you know, we have full support.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007318

I'm trying to...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007319

It's very technical.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007320

I keep on forgetting what...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007321

It's the seismic survey, the grad geometry and seismic survey, which Sec.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007322

Sherrod advocated for last year.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007323

We gave it, and hopefully, it will be of use.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007324

po ng DOE.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007325

Yes po. So,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007326

magsastart na po yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007327

implementation because SEC was

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007328

really adamant in saying

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007329

that that's super

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007330

important, diba, in terms of ROI.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007331

Sabi ni SEC Sharon, ang laki

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007332

ng return on investment on

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007333

that. So, we're looking forward po, SEC,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007334

to see how that

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007335

would pan out now that it's been

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007336

bidded out. And, yun po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007337

talaga, we have

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007338

no words. Kausap ko po si

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007339

SEC Sharon kanina. I see her

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007340

on TV at like 7 in the morning

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007341

doing interviews and

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007342

then she was all over the place

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007343

meeting with everyone

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007344

with the President, of course,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007345

to bridge the deficit

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007346

in terms of the fuel needs

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007347

of the country, energy

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007348

needs. So,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007349

as echoed by a lot

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007350

of our colleagues here in the House,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007351

we are in full support

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007352

of the DOE family

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007353

and the ERC family in terms

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007354

of the funding requirements.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007355

Kanina po, I was asking

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007356

SEC and, Sek, I'll just

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007357

ask the same question here again, as well

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007358

as kay Sharon Nino.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007359

Whichever

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007360

items, if there are

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007361

items, if there are programs

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007362

and projects that were

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007363

not funded in the NEP, if there

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007364

are any of these po that you would like

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007365

to advocate for, again,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007366

as mentioned by Vice Chair

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007367

Arnie, for consideration of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007368

the Budget Amendments Review Subcommittee,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007369

I'll open the floor

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007370

po to Sek Sharon and to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007371

Chair Nino to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007372

bring it up to us. It's been

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007373

discussed at length. Narinig ko na rin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007374

po yan, especially kay Kong Serge

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007375

with all the special provisions

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007376

na hinihiling nyo rin po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007377

on behalf of the ERC family. So,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007378

Sek, Sek Sharon,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007379

Chair Nino, I'll open the floor

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007380

for those

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007381

wish lists.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007382

Most of these items are not

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007383

actually, it won't involve any

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007384

funding, but number one

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007385

is we

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007386

were hoping to give

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007387

electric vehicles more push so that

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007388

we're less dependent on diesel. So,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007389

we're submitting like a general provision

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007390

para po

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007391

sa procurement ng

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007392

mga government offices

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007393

on electric vehicles

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007394

and make it easier and hopefully

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007395

they follow it.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007396

And then the

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007397

special provision

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007398

on the use of

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007399

5%

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007400

para mapabilis

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007401

ang mga audit nila,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007402

ang pag-implement ng project

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007403

because we're really fast-tracking.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007404

Si PNOC

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007405

mother is

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007406

for their, na i-provide

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007407

lang sana that they can

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007408

reserve the 8 billion in their corporate

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007409

funds. This won't involve

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007410

any

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007411

funding, pero

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007412

allow lang sila na magamit yung 8 billion.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007413

Para makonstruct nila yung

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007414

stockpiling

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007415

facility natin, yung mga tankin natin.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007416

Yes.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007417

Special provision, ma'am?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007418

Parang, ano ba tawag mo doon?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007419

Ah, nandiyo na sa... Ah, nandiyo na pa, sorry.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007420

Nandiyo na pala. It's there already.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007421

And then...

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007422

So, yung pwedeng tanggalin?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007423

Si PNOC, si

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007424

NPC, tsaka PNOCEC

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007425

wala namang request.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007426

But, on...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007427

And then, I think it was mentioned by

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007428

Dagi, ano?

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007429

Kung Dagi on the

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007430

relocation. We'll talk first.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007431

Before we ask for the relocation

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007432

funding restoration, I think

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007433

we need to talk to DPWH

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007434

first. We'll talk to Vince muna.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007435

Yung minention ni...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007436

Yung relocation.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007437

I don't know. I have a meeting

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007438

with SecVince and

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007439

before we request for it,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007440

I want to clarify kung nawala ba

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007441

or nandyan lang siya.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007442

And then, lastly,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007443

Chair,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007444

our agencies, including

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007445

DOE, don't have...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007446

If there's any request

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007447

for additional...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007448

For...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007449

We actually are in support of

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007450

the increase of budget of ERC.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007451

ERC is...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007452

earns more

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007453

than it spends.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007454

Kaya wala,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007455

hindi siya negative.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007456

And then,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007457

DOE actually

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007458

collected 6 billion pesos

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007459

for Malampaya this year.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007460

And what we expect for next year,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007461

kasi makokonect na yung bagong

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007462

wealth sa system natin,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007463

it will increase to about...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007464

Estimates about 27 billion.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007465

Malaking increase yan.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007466

That's about 21 billion

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007467

increase. And that won't go to us.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007468

That will go to the national

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007469

coffers.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007470

So,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007471

we're going to have to go to the national coffers.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007472

So,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007473

kung mabigyan nyo lang ng kahit

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007474

200 million para kay...

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007475

Dahil dyan sa increase,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007476

we won't ask for any increase,

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007477

but we ask that

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007478

please give us a strong

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007479

and able regulatory

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007480

body para po

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007481

seamless po ang pagbantay

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007482

at ang performance po

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007483

ng ating mga stakeholders. Thank you po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007484

Thank you very much,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007485

Sec. Sharon. Thank you.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007486

Na-summarize na po ni Sec. Sharon

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007487

on behalf of...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007488

our agencies here.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007489

So, siguro po, on the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007490

EV, Sec, as you mentioned,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007491

the special provision on

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007492

the EV, the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007493

admin cost, the 5%

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007494

admin cost as requested...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007495

3% admin cost

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007496

as requested by NEA.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007497

Yung relocation,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007498

Sec, yes po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007499

Kasi last year po, 200 million po yun eh.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007500

So...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007501

Yeah.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007502

Ma'am, can I just...

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007503

Ma'am, can I just... Go ahead.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007504

Go ahead.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007505

Expound further on the 3%,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007506

what is the issue.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007507

Okay.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007508

Ma'am, the 3% executive

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007509

and administrative cost,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007510

if we can do a special provision

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007511

to treat it as a

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007512

general income of NEA,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007513

because

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007514

that is to cover

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007515

our additional engineers,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007516

hiring of engineers,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007517

to inspect our

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007518

photovoltaic

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007519

means of work.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007520

So, we can timely implement

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007521

that project.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007522

Hindi ko kasi pinapayagan ng kuya.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007523

Kung treat it as general income.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007524

So, hindi ko namin mapapasweldo

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007525

sa administrative cost

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007526

ng project.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007527

So, pilay na pilay ho kami.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007528

Pilay na pilay ho kami

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007529

mag-implement ng

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007530

last mile schools,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007531

at photovoltaic.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007532

Dahil yun, malalayo hung lugar yun eh.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007533

Pag pinakawalan ho namin ng mga engineers,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007534

makakabalik ko yun,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007535

mga 1 week or 10 days after na.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007536

So, we really need to hire

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007537

additional engineers

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007538

to do

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007539

and certify the final

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007540

inspection.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007541

So, yun lang po ang aming bottleneck

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007542

ngayon. And we are really struggling

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007543

in trying to

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007544

timely implement the project.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007545

Dahil talagang hoong sabihin,

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007546

hindi lang yung mga engineers talaga

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007547

sumasabak yun.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007548

Kailangan namin na additional manpower.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007549

If we can be permitted to use

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007550

the EO to

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007551

be spent on the salaries and wages

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007552

of additional personnel.

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NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda

asr-007553

Thank you.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007554

Admit that I was discussing with SDS.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007555

There was a request, I think,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007556

not from LEA last year,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007557

but I think from ERC along the same lines

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007558

in terms of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007559

using it

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007560

parang retained income yung lumalabas eh.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007561

We just need to confirm.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007562

with DBM on that

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007563

because last year

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007564

I think there were two special provisions

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007565

requested by the ERC along the same

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007566

lines and we had to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007567

unfortunately

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007568

you know that, Chair Nino

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007569

we had to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007570

reject

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007571

it as an amendment given that

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007572

the DBM's

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007573

position is there is no legal

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007574

basis that would allow for

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007575

such. So in the case of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007576

NEA, we'll

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007577

have to confer with the DBM

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007578

unless there's a DBM

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007579

representative here.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007580

Sorry to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007581

put you on the spot, DBM, but it's better

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007582

for us to settle it while

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007583

we're all together in the same

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007584

room. So we'll

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007585

already

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007586

get the take

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007587

of DBM on that.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007588

The other special provisions

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007589

kasi clear naman yun

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007590

but this one po kasi there were

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007591

similar requests in previous years

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007592

that were

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007593

I don't want to say opposed but

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007594

had to be excluded

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007595

from the inclusion in the NEP because of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007596

legal complexity.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007597

So DBM,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007598

while we're waiting for the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007599

DBM representative to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007600

take a seat, we'll go back

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007601

po muna to the ERC

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007602

as mentioned

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007603

by Sec. Sharon.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007604

So nakita ko naman po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007605

I was looking at the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007606

performance of the ERC.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007607

The financial performance

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007608

given naman yung talaga accomplishments

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007609

given po yun but I just

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007610

needed to look at the numbers

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007611

in terms of the financial

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007612

performance. Of course

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007613

aside from the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007614

collections

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007615

nung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007616

ERC, na-exceed

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007617

nyo din po yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007618

target revenues nyo for

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007619

2025 and I think for

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007620

2026 given that you're

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007621

already almost at 100% of your

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007622

target as of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007623

June this year. So

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007624

may-exceed nyo din po for the second

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007625

year in a row. Is that a safe assumption po

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007626

Chair? Yes Madam Chair.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007627

Our collections for the

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007628

supervision and regulatory fees

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007629

would come in end of

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007630

September so we would likely

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007631

hit or exceed

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007632

that 2.3 billion

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007633

that was

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007634

earned for 2025.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007635

Apo. Thank you po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007636

and yun po siguro po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007637

Chair we just need a little bit more

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007638

information with regard to the request

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007639

I understand that the 200

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007640

million request for additional

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007641

funding within

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007642

ERC would go towards

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007643

hiring additional personnel

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007644

consultants, technical

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007645

experts and the like. Am I

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007646

getting it correct po yun po yung relay po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007647

saka ni Vice Chair Arden? That's correct

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007648

mainly consultants because we

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007649

intend to really complete

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007650

the rate reset of all our distribution

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007651

utilities in 2020.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007652

And we would need

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007653

the assistance of these consultants

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007654

for us to be able

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007655

to accomplish that

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007656

task within the

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007657

compressed timelines that we

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007658

have set.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007659

This rate reset exercise has

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007660

not happened for more than

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007661

a decade and

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007662

starting this year and next year we will

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007663

be able to finally complete it.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007664

Thank you po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007665

So we request lang po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007666

Chair for a

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007667

more detailed

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007668

additional details on

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007669

the requirement. Just so again

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007670

when we deliberate on it

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007671

in the Budget Amendments Review Subcommittee

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007672

we have a basis for how much funding

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007673

really is required by the ERC

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007674

kasi sabi nga po ni

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007675

Sec Sharon, wala nang hihilingin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007676

yun lang

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007677

matulungan lang po talaga

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007678

yung ERC na magkaroon ng additional requirements

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007679

and I was also briefed

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007680

by Chair Arden

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007681

as to where

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007682

the like

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007683

possible

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007684

with the systems laws

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007685

and all

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007686

kailangan din talaga

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007687

and the reset

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007688

you would really need additional manpower

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007689

to be able to make all of those computations

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007690

so we just need more information po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007691

I was looking through the documents

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007692

wala pa kasing details eh

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007693

so we'll just wait for that po.

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007694

Yes Madam Chair we will do that

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007695

we will submit a

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007696

narrative as regards

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007697

what intend to do with

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007698

additional funding

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007699

that we will get

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007700

for consultancy

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007701

because whatever can be accomplished

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007702

through the consultants

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007703

that will free up our

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007704

organic staff to perform

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007705

other tasks

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007706

among them of course we'll be working on the

Source

ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007707

lowering of the system loss caps

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007708

until we're able to

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007709

fully

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007710

remove the system losses

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007711

from the charges in our

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007712

electricity bills and we'd like to

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007713

express our

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007714

sincerest appreciation to the ERC members

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007715

and we'd like to express our

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007716

sincerest appreciation to the ERC members

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007717

and we'd like to express our

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007718

sincere appreciation and

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007719

gratitude to our

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007720

budget sponsor to

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007721

Kong Arne for

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007722

helping us out and

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007723

guiding us on

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007724

the process for

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007725

being able to

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007726

seek this

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007727

additional

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007728

budget for

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ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan

asr-007729

ERC

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007730

Thank you very much shared

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007731

so we'll wait for that

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007732

along with the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007733

special provisions

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007734

as proposed by

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007735

the DOE

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007736

so now I would

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007737

going back

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007738

circling back to

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007739

the question of the special provision. Sige po. For the information of the body, so the DBM director who could respond to our query is actually in Romualdez Hall because of the ongoing meeting with DOH.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007740

Hawak niyo po pala both DOE and DOH. It's the same director. So upon conferring with Sec Sharon and Vice Chair Arnie, instead of waiting for DBM to state their position today, we'll just have a separate conversation with them.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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So hopefully po, before pagsikong Arnie mo, bilis naman yung actions ng Sec Sharon pa together.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007742

So hopefully po, before we...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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before the plenary we'll be able to settle that so instead of waiting in the interest of time i

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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know everyone is also tired um it's been seven hours um since the start of the the doe hearing

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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so um with that actually those are my only um that that is my manifestation and siguro sec

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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sharon uh one thing if we may request for that list um that prioritized list um by

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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end of the week um because we're we're we we need to subject it to the deliberation of the barcy

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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which we intend to convene in a week or so so we'll we'll request um for

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007749

Yun nga lang, ma-accelerate lang kasi yung wording we need to get by the end of the week.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007750

Actually, the end of the week, it's tomorrow. No problem.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007751

Wednesday na pala.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007752

So by tomorrow, one document. Yes, ma'am.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007753

Thank you very much. And even ERC, paki-detail lang po.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007754

Can you give it to them?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007755

And then, yeah, special provision, if possible, ihabol na rin.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007756

Submit lang po lagi, Madam Chair, if I may, Speaker Bodjie Dy through Mika Suansing. Lagi pong gano'n. Thank you. And copy-furnish lang po ako.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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Asec Den will talk to

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

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DBM. She used to be with COA naman eh.

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DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin

asr-007759

So that would guide them on what the language, together with NEA, para pag-usapan nila before we all go home.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007760

Thank you very much, [unclear]. So that's it for my end. Again, um

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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the same as uh last year um our full support of course to to sex Sharon and the whole um doe family

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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um and erc family so we will uh work within the as

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007763

as mentioned within the limited physical space to be able to help augment or restore whichever items

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007764

need to be restored so again our utmost gratitude in our commendation to the to the doe family irc

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007765

family um today for all the hard work um and good work that you have been doing for our country

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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i would even say very very um a silent workersy um long term working with NAC and working with our

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007767

as evidenced by all of the accomplishments uh this year so thank you thank you um to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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the doe family and um and the best way that we could reciprocate um the good work that you've

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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been doing is to make sure that in the 2027 budget you are provided with the resources to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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be able to perform your mandate um for the following year okay thank you

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007771

so that's it um i won't prolong it anymore um last number i just want to say thank you

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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um to vice chair arnie fontabelia for very expertly managing today's proceedings

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007773

um

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007774

of course has been um your partner um in in

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007775

in last year's deliberations

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007776

so again thank you so much and with that um i will like to um turn it over to

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007777

before we terminate ma'am just one question as a pnoc are you happy with your job

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-007778

are you happy okay

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007779

uh

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007780

Actually, before I move for the termination, I'd like to congratulate Secretary Sharon Garin and

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

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the attached agencies of DOE for a job well done. No, in spite of

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

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a bigger budget and

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007783

limited resources, you were able to perform your mandate effectively. Congratulations.

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007784

Gusto ko rin sanang mag-defend ulit ng budget. Kaya lang hindi na ako pinayagan ni Chair.

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007784-split-2

Mas magaling daw

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

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at saka yung legend sa pag-defend. [laughter]

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007784-split-4

Cong. Arnie

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007784-split-5

Masyadong magaling yung pumalit. So, congratulate naman. Palakpakan natin si [unclear]. Backup lang kami, backup. So

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007785

Madam Chair, I move that the

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

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committee terminate its hearing on the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007787

Energy, including its attached corporations, as well as the Energy Regulatory Commission, under House Bill

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

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Number 10858. I so move.

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-007788-split-2

Second.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007788-split-3

It has been moved and duly seconded to terminate the

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007789

hearing on the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Energy, including its attached

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007790

corporations, as well as the ERC. Is there any objection? Hearing none, the motion is carried.

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007791

next next

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007791-split-2

kindly you sit down

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007792

I move that we suspend the committee hearing here at the Nograles Hall on House Bill Number 10858

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Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez

asr-007793

until tomorrow, September 3, 2026, at 9:00 a.m. I so move.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007794

It has been moved and duly seconded. Any objection? Hearing none, the motion is carried.

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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella

asr-007795

The budget hearing is suspended until tomorrow, September 3, 2026, at 9:00 a.m.