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Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000001Kindly settle down. Take your seats. We will start in one minute. Quiet, please. We will start in one minute. Settle down.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000002Okay. Silence, please. Quiet, please. Stop talking.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000003Hearing of the Committee on Appropriation on House Bill No. 10858, Fiscal Year 2027, General Appropriations Bill is hereby resumed.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000004ComSec, please acknowledge the members present and the resource persons present today.
Committee Secretary
asr-000005Good morning. We would like to acknowledge the presence of our Honorable Members, Deputy Minority Leader,
Committee Secretary
asr-000006Percy Sandana, Vice Chair Arnie Fentebella, Vice Chair Josefina Taliado, Representative Leo Rodriguez,
Committee Secretary
asr-000007Representative Celso Lehencia, Representative Nelson Legacion, Representative Marco Juanco,
Committee Secretary
asr-000008Representative Attorney J.P. Padernos, Representative Chelle Jocno, Representative Alan T.,
Committee Secretary
asr-000009Vice Chair Dante Garcia, Representative Robert Nazal.
Committee Secretary
asr-000010And we would also like to acknowledge the members present today.
Committee Secretary
asr-000011We would also like to acknowledge the Department of Energy,
Committee Secretary
asr-000012Headed by Secretary Sharon Esgarin,
Committee Secretary
asr-000013USEC Felix William Fentebella,
Committee Secretary
asr-000014USEC Giovanni Carlo Bacordo,
Committee Secretary
asr-000015USEC Alessandro Sales,
Committee Secretary
asr-000016USEC Rowena Cristina Guevara,
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asr-000017USEC Ronald Gonquilla,
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asr-000018USEC Mario Marasigan,
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asr-000019USEC Rio Innocencio,
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asr-000020USEC Maria Francesca Del Rosario,
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asr-000021USEC Fairlaa S kethaalivara,
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asr-000022USEC Del Bosco Ynmaybea,
Committee Secretary
asr-000023USEC Elano Salvier,
Committee Secretary
asr-000024USEC Justiira Andra,
Committee Secretary
asr-000025From the National Electrification Administration, Administrator Antonio Mariano Almeida, Deputy
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asr-000026Administrator Vic Alvaro, Deputy Administrator Rosanne Rosero Lee, Deputy Administrator Attorney
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asr-000027Omar Mayo, Acting Deputy Administrator Wilfredo Buxit.
Committee Secretary
asr-000028From the National Power Corporation, President and CEO Jericho Jonas Nograles, Senior Vice
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asr-000029President Attorney Melchor Ridulme, Vice President Attorney Delphine Buenafe, Vice
Committee Secretary
asr-000030President Rene Baruela, Vice President Crisanto Hilario, Vice President Larry Sabelina, Vice
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asr-000031President Sergio Villafuerte.
Committee Secretary
asr-000032From the Philippine National
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asr-000033Oil Company, President and CEO Franz Joseph George Alvarez, Senior Vice President Attorney
Committee Secretary
asr-000034Josephine Cassandra Cui, Senior Vice President Attorney Graciela Barletta.
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asr-000035From the Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation, President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay,
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asr-000036Vice President Candido Magsombol.
Committee Secretary
asr-000037From the Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management Corporation, President and CEO
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asr-000038Dennis Edward de la Serna.
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asr-000039Vice President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna.
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asr-000040Vice President Manuel Marcos Villalón II.
Committee Secretary
asr-000041And from the National Transmission Corporation, President and CEO Attorney Joseph Omar Castillo.
Committee Secretary
asr-000042Vice President Dina Dizon, Vice President Maria Teresa Laranang, and Officer in Charge,
Committee Secretary
asr-000043Vice President Attorney Dexter Egbert Alvin Roy Comiso.
Committee Secretary
asr-000044That's all, Mr. Chair.
Committee Secretary
asr-000045Sir, we have additional House members.
Committee Secretary
asr-000046What's that now, ma'am?
Committee Secretary
asr-000047We have acknowledged the Presidents ofrule and器.
Committee Secretary
asr-000048Costa Rica.
Committee Secretary
asr-000049Olá, President.
Committee Secretary
asr-000050Hello, President.
Committee Secretary
asr-000051Hello.
Committee Secretary
asr-000052Hello, Vice President.
Committee Secretary
asr-000053Hello, President.
Committee Secretary
asr-000054Hello, President.
Committee Secretary
asr-000055Chair Jose Alvarez, Deputy Majority Leader Gil Acosta,
Committee Secretary
asr-000056Representative Adrian Salceda,
Committee Secretary
asr-000057and Representative Christine Meehan-Sinson,
Committee Secretary
asr-000058and Vice Chairman Nick Lagdameo.
Committee Secretary
asr-000059That's all, Mr. Chair.
Committee Secretary
asr-000060We would also like to acknowledge our co-sponsor for the DOE and ERC,
Committee Secretary
asr-000061Vice Chair Maria Sofina Taliado.
Committee Secretary
asr-000062And Representative Christo Fergo.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000063Thank you, ComSec.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000064Good morning.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000065I again have the honor of welcoming our friends
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asr-000066from the D.C.
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asr-000067for the Department of Energy and the ERC
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asr-000068and the entire energy family
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asr-000069for the briefing of their proposed budget for fiscal year 2027.
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asr-000070153 pesos and 70 centavos.
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asr-000071This was the highest price of diesel
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asr-000072when the conflict between the United States and Iran
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asr-000073caused the effective closure of the Strait of Hormuz.
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asr-000074Transport operations,
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asr-000075food production,
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asr-000076businesses and households' budgets came under severe strain.
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asr-000077Deadline inflation reached 7.2% in April 2026,
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asr-000078while grid alerts heightened concerns over power reliability.
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asr-000079The President responded by declaring a State of National Energy Emergency
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asr-000080under Executive Order No. 110.
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asr-000081The order recognized what the crisis meant for us,
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asr-000082geopolitical countries,
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asr-000083political conflict had disrupted global energy supply chains
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asr-000084and placed upward pressure on fuel prices,
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asr-000085threatening the adequacy and stability of our domestic energy supply.
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asr-000086But while a declaration and emergency procurement can stabilize a crisis,
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asr-000087they cannot substitute for preparedness built before the shock arrives.
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asr-000088Leadership, competence and strong institutions matter.
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asr-000089That is why the Energy Family deserves both our support and our careful scrutiny.
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asr-000090Under the able leadership of the President,
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asr-000091the Uplift Committee,
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asr-000092and particularly through the efforts of our good Secretary Sharon Garin,
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asr-000093the Energy Family acted swiftly to stabilize supply
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asr-000094and limit further the domestic disruption.
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asr-000095These efforts deserve recognition,
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asr-000096even as they require our support.
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asr-000097It is time for us to ask why extraordinary emergency measures became necessary.
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asr-000098DOE acted immediately,
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asr-000099conserving critical inventories,
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asr-000100improving fuel dispatch,
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asr-000101securing more than 178 million liters of diesel to build an emergency fuel buffer,
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asr-000102managing price adjustments,
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asr-000103supporting targeted assistance,
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asr-000104guarding against hoarding and profiteering,
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asr-000105and strengthening conservation measures.
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asr-000106This was a significant corrective measure,
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asr-000107but it must now be converted into a permanent,
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asr-000108rules-based preparedness mechanism.
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asr-000109The ERC intensified market oversight and adopted measures
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asr-000110to caution consumers from abrupt fuel shocks.
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asr-000111Its heightened data requirements helped identify generation costs,
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asr-000112pressures and the interventions needed.
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asr-000113For fiscal year 2027,
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asr-000114this capacity should be strengthened through real-time monitoring,
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asr-000115faster regulatory action,
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asr-000116and automatic protection for qualified lifeline consumers.
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asr-000117The Energy Family stood on the front line of the response
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asr-000118and reduced the risk of a deeper disruption.
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asr-000119At the same time, the crisis revealed an implementation gap.
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asr-000120A strategic petroleum reserve had been established in policy,
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asr-000121since 2021,
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asr-000122and supported by a completed study in 2022.
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asr-000123Although it was not fully operational when the shock arrived,
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asr-000124the lesson is clear.
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asr-000125Policy declarations must become funded,
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asr-000126measurable and operational capabilities.
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asr-000127In a State of the Nation address,
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asr-000128the President spoke at length about the energy industry.
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asr-000129He aptly said,
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asr-000130the past few months have reminded us that we need to increase
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asr-000131the amount of electricity we are receiving.
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asr-000132This is a sign of a strong country.
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asr-000133The President called for stronger energy security,
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asr-000134improved investment conditions for local and foreign capital,
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asr-000135and an expedited shift toward indigenous renewable energy.
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asr-000136Together with energy storage and more reliable transmission.
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asr-000137His emphasis on these priorities reflects the central role of the Energy Family
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asr-000138in advancing his vision of a stronger,
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asr-000139more resilient and more prosperous Philippines.
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asr-000140To my fellow legislators,
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asr-000141a country that needs energy security cannot afford,
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asr-000142and under an unprecedented crisis,
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asr-000143an underfunded energy sector.
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asr-000144We have just witnessed what a war happening thousands of miles away
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asr-000145can do to our energy supply.
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asr-000146And we must now prepare for El Nino,
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asr-000147related risk to hydropower, peak demand and reserve margins.
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asr-000148But we have also seen what the Energy Family can accomplish
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asr-000149when institutions act decisively.
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asr-000150The challenge now is to institutionalize the capacity
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asr-000151before the next emergency.
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asr-000152Swift action matters.
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asr-000153Intelligent policy interventions matter.
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asr-000154Regulatory capacity, technical capacity,
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asr-000155and consumer protection all matter.
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asr-000156And all of these require sustained,
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asr-000157well-targeted public support backed by measurable performance.
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asr-000158The combined proposal budget of the Energy Family
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asr-000159in the amount of 56.1 billion
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asr-000160is not simply an expenditure.
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asr-000161It is an investment in national resilience,
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asr-000162an insurance policy against disruption,
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asr-000163and a catalyst for the reliable, affordable,
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asr-000164and secure energy system our economy requires.
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asr-000165The budget should specify targets for strategic fuel reserves
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asr-000166and days of supply,
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asr-000167diversified import sources,
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asr-000168emergency procurement lead times,
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asr-000169lead reserve margins,
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asr-000170transmission and storage completion,
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asr-000171off-grid fuel security,
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asr-000172renewable capacity,
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asr-000173and consumer protection.
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asr-000174Let us provide the Energy Family with the resources
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asr-000175and the laws it needs,
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asr-000176not only to respond to the next crisis,
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asr-000177but to prepare before it arrives.
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asr-000178Thank you.
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asr-000179Thank you, Mr. President.
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asr-000180Secretary Sharon Garin,
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asr-000181we may now proceed with your presentation.
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asr-000182And after you,
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asr-000183DRC.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000184Yes, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000185Good morning, Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000186You have the floor, ma'am.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000187Good morning, Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000188and thank you very much to the honorable members
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asr-000189of this committee.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000190So, Chair, it's good to be back.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000191I have to say I was appointed last year.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000192My confirmation was October 8, 2025.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000193It's been a year.
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asr-000194It's been more stressful
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asr-000195and more work compared to my 12 years in Congress.
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asr-000196It has not been an easy year for DOE,
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asr-000197but I think we have –
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asr-000198the problems are not done yet.
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asr-000199The oil crisis is still not over in the Middle East.
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asr-000200But I think the DOE has maintained it
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asr-000201with grace and steady hand throughout the crisis.
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asr-000202And I have to –
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asr-000203before we proceed to the presentation,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000204I would like to thank my team,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000205all the undersecretaries that are here.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000206Thank you very much to you
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000207because they have really worked hard
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asr-000208and extra hours just to make sure that everything's steady.
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asr-000209And, of course, to the presidents
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asr-000210or the administrator of our GOCC, Mr. Chair.
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asr-000211But then, as again, this is not over yet.
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asr-000212And in addition to the –
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asr-000213to the what we have done,
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asr-000214I think DOE has learned so many lessons from this crisis.
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asr-000215Hence, we are here, Mr. Chair,
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asr-000216with a request for –
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asr-000217our budget approval because this budget will implement the measures that were not there
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000218or the programs that were not there during the oil crisis and hopefully the next one will be
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asr-000219an easier burden for the country and for our consumers mr chair so for our presentation
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000220mr chair i'd like to ask under secretary uh yousef bacordo to to take the lead
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000221yes you said you're recognized thank you thank you sir thank you madam secretary the honorable
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000222arnie fentebella the presiding chair presiding officer and vice chair of the house committee
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asr-000223on appropriations honorable members of the committee who were earlier recognized members
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asr-000224of the energy family led by our hyperactive secretary sharon esgarin ladies and gentlemen
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000225good morning allow me to present the department of energy's major accomplishment
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000226along with the proposed budget for fiscal year 2027 and the plans and programs for the budget
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asr-000227year allow me to begin with the department's major accomplishments in response to the energy
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asr-000228emergency caused by the middle east conflict the doe in coordination with other agencies
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asr-000229employed a whole of government approach in securing fuel supply implementing staggered
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asr-000230fuel price adjustments prescribing the price adjustment
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asr-000231for oil companies implementing fuel subsidy programs preventing hoarding and profiteering
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asr-000232enforcing energy efficiency and conservation measures and setting up support measures
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asr-000233for the transport and agricultural sectors the country maintains an average available fuel supply
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asr-000234of 50 days following the president's directive during the 2025 sauna the doe with nea and erc
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asr-000235restored
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asr-00023624-7 electricity service in Siquijor. The department also caused decisively to address
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asr-000237the prolonged power interruptions in Catanduanas, working closely with NPC, NEA, and FISELCO
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asr-000238to restore reliable electricity service across the province. The department has also been
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asr-000239unwavering in its disaster response efforts to ensure power restoration and continuity
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asr-000240of fuel supply in affected areas. As of December 2025, the country's household
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asr-000241electrification level has reached 94.93%, with around 28.75 million households energized
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asr-000242out of the 30.28 million potential households. Our RE, or renewable energy share, in the
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asr-000243generation mix increased to 25.04% in 2025.
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asr-000244Through the Green Energy Auction Program, we have already awarded 20.7 GW of RE capacity,
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asr-000245with another 25 GW planned for auction from 2027 to 2035.
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asr-000246The RE sector continues to be the leading contributor to Green Lane investments, with
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asr-000247187 endorsed projects, amounting to 5.46 trillion pesos since 2023, accounting for 86% of investments
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asr-000248projects, amounting to 5.46 trillion pesos since 2023, accounting for 86% of investments
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asr-000249under the Board of Investments' Green Lane program.
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asr-000250From the start of the Marcos Jr.'s administration to date, the country's power capacity continued
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asr-000251to grow, with installed capacity increasing by 5,461
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asr-000252megawatts, or 21.1%
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asr-000253increase, while dependable capacity increased by 5,400
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asr-000254megawatts, or a 23.5% increase. To further support the timely delivery of committed
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asr-000255power projects and ensure that capacity additions are brought online as scheduled, the DOE established
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asr-000256Task Force 200, pursuant to the President's pronouncements during the 2025 SONA. The Task
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asr-000257Force
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asr-000258closely monitors and
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asr-000259facilitates the implementation
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asr-000260of 200 committed
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asr-000261projects. To date,
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asr-00026248 power projects
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asr-000263are now completed and
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asr-000264commercially operational,
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asr-000265adding 1,846.63 MW to the grid.
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asr-000266provide the power to the entire power sector, and which will improve the power and utility
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asr-000267efficiency of the power grid in the future.
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asr-000268The DOE project is also an open and sustainable project with the goal to increase the full
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asr-000269power generation capacity, which takes place in 2020 by Delegation of the Power Project
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asr-000270and the immediate development of best power generation system.
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asr-000271The DOE project is expected to receive a total of 4, constructive design from KMT, and will
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asr-00027246.63 megawatts to the grid. This includes 12 BESS projects with a combined capacity
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asr-000273of 229.37 megawatts that support grid stability and frequency regulation.
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asr-000274In the upstream sector, the 14 petroleum service contracts recently signed by the President
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asr-000275will generate $324 million dollars potential investments.
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asr-000276The successful drilling of Camago 3 and Malampaya East 1 wells under Service Contract 38 yielded
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asr-000277estimated reserves of 222 billion cubic feet of gas, extending operations to 2034 and providing
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asr-000278enough fuel to power 13.11 million households for one year.
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asr-000279We now proceed to the next stage of the project.
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asr-000280We present the Department's proposed 2027 budget.
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asr-000281The DOE's revenue collections for the National Government have consistently exceeded its
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asr-000282approved budget. Collections were driven mainly by the Malampaya
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asr-000283Gas Fund. Its decline, however, was offset by improved collections from RE sources.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000284For 2026, the total projected revenue collection is 6.06 billion pesos.
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asr-000285For 2027, revenues are projected to reach 23 billion, mainly because of Malampaya Phase
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asr-000286IV. RE collections are also expected to continue increasing.
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asr-000287For fiscal year 2027, the DOE's total proposed budget is 5.58 billion, reflecting an increase
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asr-000288of 1.14 billion, or 25.74%, compared with the fiscal year 2026 GAA of
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asr-0002894.43 billion pesos.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000290The 2027 budget is composed of 36.4% new appropriations and 63.6% automatic
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000291appropriations from the special account in the General Fund. In other words, the Department's
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000292budgetary requirements will be heavily supported through the SAGF. This chart shows the DOE's
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000293budget utilization rate from 2022 to 31 July 2026. As of 31 August 2026, the obligation rate is at 49%.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000294Upon completion of the procurement of the mobile energy system and the DOE automation project,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000295which are already undergoing procurement, the obligation rate will increase to 68.31%.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000296The DOE expects to reach at least 95.8%
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000297utilization rate for 2026. The increase in the DOE's recommended 2027 budget from the current
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000298year's budget level is in large part owing to increased funding for these three major projects.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000299The Philippine Grade Geometry and Seismic Survey Project, or simply the Grade Geometry Project.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000300Second, the Mobile Energy Systems, or the MES, under the Total Electrification Project. And third,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000301the issp which includes the doe automation project the gray geometry project is the
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000302department's initiative to improve resource mapping and prospect identification reduce
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000303exploration risk and help attract greater upstream energy investments in the philippines
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000304by generating higher quality geophysical data across priority petroleum basins the
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000305grid geometry project covers 120 000 square kilometers the area would support up to 120
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000306individual exploration service contracts using the data from the 12 recently awarded exploration
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000307contracts representing just 10 percent of the total potential blocks 12 contracts could already
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000308account for approximately 16.8 billion pesos of potential private sector investments and that
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000309doesn't
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000310even include actual discoveries under the total electrification project the department is
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000311procuring mes that will provide renewable rapidly deployable and modular solutions
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000312designed for immediate interim and sustainable electricity access for both disaster response
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000313and electrification purposes for 2026 we are utilizing 500 million from current
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000314appropriations and 21 million from continuing appropriations for 2027 we are proposing 600
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000315million budget for at least 60 additional mes units for 2027 we propose a budget of 950 million
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000316for issp of which 491 million or 52 is for automation while 458 million or 48 is for other ict requirements
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000317the automation project will transform fragmented standalone systems into a unified
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000318streamlined automated and ai enabled enterprise platform it will improve efficiency and
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000319transparency strengthen accountability and regular regulatory compliance and reduce opportunity
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000320opportunities for discretion manipulation and corruption finally we present a summary of the
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000321department's major plans and programs
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000322first we accelerate energy resource development the biggest investment of the doe is on the
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000323grid geometry project which is expected to significantly increase oil and gas exploration
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000324in the country we are implementing the philippine geothermal de-risking facility to revive geothermal
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000325exploration in the philippines we are also conducting additional green energy auctions such
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000326as waste-to-energy, offshore wind, agro-solar, solar on stilts, solar on irrigation canals,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000327and off-grid areas. Nuclear energy remains part of the DOE's long-term energy strategy,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000328functioning as cheaper and more reliable baseload power. The mid-merit natural gas capacity auction
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000329is targeted to be completed by December of 2026. We also have major plans and programs
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000330to ensure energy security, including the deployment of MES, establishment of a state-owned
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000331strategic petroleum reserve, permutation of the Visayas, Mindoro, and Palawan energy master
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000332plants, implementation of policies for generation companies' accountability, review of systems loss
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000333related policies and programs, push for government-wide adoption of electric vehicles or EVs,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000334and deployment of EV charging stations. We also have several key projects to strengthen
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000335governance, including the full digitalization, automation, and AI transformation of DOE,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000336the establishment of the Center for Energy Excellence, comprising of the Energy Museum,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000337Energy Academy, and the R&D Center, the strengthening of DOE manpower, the modernization
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000338nationwide command center, and the upgrading of DOE facilities to achieve net-zero energy consumption.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000339Mr. Chair, the honorable members of the committee, this ends my presentation.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-000340Thank you for your kind attention.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000341Thank you, Yusek. Thank you very much. Next to present, Chairman Francis Wan. You have the floor, sir.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000342Thank you very much, Mr. Chairperson and the honorable members of the committee.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000343Good morning. I am Francis Attenino C. Wan, the chairperson and CEO of the Energy Regulatory
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000344Commission, and thank you for this opportunity to present our budget for 2027.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000345The ERC is an independent quasi-judicial body created under the IPERA.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000346And with me in the commission are four other commissioners, Commissioner Florescinda Digal, Marco Fuentes, Amante Liberato, and Paris Real.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000347Our mandate is to promote market competition, ensure consumer choice, protect consumer interests, keep retail rates based on prudent and reasonable cost recovery, and penalize abuse of market power.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000348We regulate and oversee the full electricity value chain, the regulated sectors, namely the transmission and the distribution sectors, as well as the competitive sectors, the generation and supply.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000349And at the center of everything we do are the consumers, upholding the rights and interests of our consumers, both captive and contestable.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000350The slide four is on the...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000351In the sector that we regulate, it is currently valued at around 4.19 trillion.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000352And this is just to emphasize the scale of the sector that our proposed budget of 944 million must support.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000353For ERC accomplishments, we have issued so far for a period from January 2025 until June 2026,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-0003544,000...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000355and 611 decisions and orders.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000356We have imposed 157 millions in fines.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000357We have directed the refund of around 71.3 billion.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000358P70 billion of that came from Meralco's filing of its actual weighted average tariff for the lapsed years during the time when its rates were not reset by the earlier commission.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000359We have approved 292 power supply agreements.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000360These are the agreements between distribution utilities and generation companies for the supply of electricity.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000361And 184 of that with the final authority.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000362Comparing that to the performance of ERC during the entire 2024, we have approved in 2024 only two power supply agreement applications and five CAPEX applications.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000363For the lifeline rate program in...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000364response to the call of the president to expand the scope and coverage of the lifeline program under IPIRA as extended by law.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000365We have actually launched a national lifeline program, expanded its coverage to up to 50 kilowatt hours for the marginalized end users.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000366And right now, the coverage...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000367is up by 85.33%.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000368And right now, we are able to cater to around 620,000 qualified marginalized end users.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000369Net metering also, in response to the call of the president, net metering registrations are up 51.77%.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000370And so far as the implementation of retail competition or ARCOA, with even the lowering of the threshold...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000371to 100 kilowatt, where those with demand of 100 kilowatt can now choose their own supplier, we've seen and estimated that the cost savings to these customers that opted to avail of their choice and contracted with retailers, the estimated cost savings to them already amounted to 19.87 billion.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000372So, among the landmark...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000373decisions that we have issued, aside from the lowering of the contestable threshold to 100 kilowatt, we have issued the first ever transmission wheeling rules for the off-grid.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000374This is the first time that we would have a regulatory framework for the transmission service to be provided in the off-grid areas, starting with Mindoro and Palawan as soon as this is established.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000375We have...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000376restarted the rate reset of our private distribution utilities and directed the private distribution utilities to respectively file their actual weighted average tariff filings.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000377And we have also addressed thousands of CAPEX filings and point-to-point transmission proposals.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000378We have disposed of thousands of them.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000379And we have supported the push for renewable energy by performing our part in the J-UP program of the Department of Energy.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000380We have set the reserve price for the off-grid.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000381For the offshore wind, we have also...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000382set the reserve price for the Pioneer Waste to Energy Projects.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000383We have established for the first time the Green Energy Auction Allowance to be able to support the new capacities that are being built under the J-UP program of the Department of Energy.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000384We have also updated our rules on the advanced metering infrastructure...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000385so that we can finally modernize our grid.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000386We have addressed long-standing issues in the generation sector, such as the public offering requirement,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000387the fit adjustment issue.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000388We have updated the fit allowance.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000389We have updated the UCME as well as the SAGAR in some of the off-grid areas.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000390And every one of these, among others, was delivered within...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000391our approved budget for 2026.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000392And for 2027, our priorities remain to have fair and evidence-based rate setting, timely resolution of pending cases, robust oversight to foster competition, and a stable and enhanced regulatory environment to attract investment in our sector.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000393And all these are anchored in proactive consumer finance.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000394For our thrust on fair and evidence-based rate setting, aside from setting the gear prices for our J-UP, we have already issued the draft rules governing the regulatory framework for our gas auction.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000395We will soon be finalizing that.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000396We are targeting to...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000397enforce more strictly the distribution utilities' least-cost supply obligations under our revised 2026 CSP guidelines.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000398And soon, the guidelines that we will issue on the review of the terms of reference to be used by our distribution utilities that will be conducting their CSPs.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000399And that will also include our target of conducting more timely...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000400audits of the de-use implementation of their pass-through charges.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000401We will also complete the reset of the rates of the distribution utilities, both the private distribution utilities and the electric cooperatives.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000402This has not been done in more than 10 years.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000403There has been no new rates approved for our distribution utilities.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000404But only just last month.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000405We have already approved the final determination for the rate reset of one of our private distribution utilities belonging to the Group A under the performance-based regulation.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000406And all the other distribution utilities in Group A will follow suit.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000407We are targeting to complete the rate reset of Group B within the year and for Group C and D for the private distribution utilities.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000408All this will happen in 2027.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000409So this is something that was not done in more than a decade.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000410And we are targeting to finish the rate reset of the private distribution utilities in 2027.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000411Also, the new rates of our electric cooperatives, we target that they would have already their new rates to be implemented starting January.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000412Again, this is something that has not been done.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000413For more than a decade.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000414The last rate setting for our electric cooperatives happened in early 2010.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000415So after more than a decade, we will soon have their new rates.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000416And this is in time also for the push now for our distribution utilities to address their system losses.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000417And prepare them for the eventual removal of the system losses.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000418As indicated by the President.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000419For the trust on consumer-focused leadership, we have just approved the revised Magna Carta for electricity consumers.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000420And we intend to conduct an extensive information and education campaign across the country to be able to educate and inform.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000421Our consumers as regards their rights under the Magna Carta.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000422For our budget, our budget for 2027.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000423Or over the years, our GAA grew modestly from 911.6 million in 2024 to 931 million in 2026.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000424Or increases of roughly 2%.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000425And then.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-0004260.04%.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000427We have proposed a budget of 1.7 billion to be able to cover all the plans and programs that we intend to implement for 2027.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000428Unfortunately, the NEP only reflects 944.065 million or 44.67% below what we proposed.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000429The variance.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000430Is.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000431Concentrated mainly in the MOOE and capital outlay.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000432And in the MOOE included there is the budget for the consultancy services that we intended supposedly to assist us complete the rate reset of our private distribution utilities and electric cooperatives as well as NGCP for 2027.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000433Our overall utilization rate has climbed.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000434Steadily.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000435So that will show our absorptive capacity and our ability to responsibly manage a larger budget.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000436So from a low of 28.08% in 2021, it has risen to 46.81 in June of 2026.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000437So that covers the first semester of the year.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000438And.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000439On an annual basis, our full year utilization last year was already at 84.20% up from a low of 62%.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000440In 2023, our revenues, we have consistently brought in more to the to the government in terms of the supervision fees, as well as the permit fees and fines that we collect.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000441And.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000442The.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000443And.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000444In 2025.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000445With a budget of 20 of 931 million, we were able to bring to the government a total of 2.354 billion in revenue or 121% above our, our projection.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000446And definitely way above the budget that was allocated for us in 2025.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000447And.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000448We expect that we will hit the same level for 2027 so bottom line is the ERC is a net revenue generator for the government and this budget request of 1.7 billion would have been offset by what we return to the treasury and unfortunately our NEP stands out.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000449It stands only at 944 million. That will be the end of my presentation. Your honors, thank you very much.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000450Thank you, Chair. This is going to be a working lunch. Para lang malaman ng colleagues natin, we distributed a presentation of NEA, NAPOCOR, PNOC, PNOC-EC, PISAM, and TRANSCO.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000451So nasa inyo na po yung briefer po nila. Para po mas mabilis po tayo.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000452But before I call on to the interpreter, I would like to recognize Congressman Salvador Plato, Vice Chair Bernadette Barberis, Vice Chair Maria Cristina Talavera Lopez, Deputy Minority Leader Presley Desus, Congressman John Chan,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000453Congressman Julio Cesar Vergara, Congressman Steve Solon, Congressman Dibutuan, Congressman Ernel Ceniza, Congressman Munir Arbizon, Congressman Joseph Yu, Vice Chair Isabela Zagadbaria, Representative Catherine Guraceta.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000454Thank you for your presence.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000455The interpellation may remind our distinguished colleagues that each member is allotted five minutes for questions or interpellation, excluding the response of the resource person.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000456When the bell sounds, the members have 30 minutes to conclude or wind up.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000457Consistent with the longstanding practice of the House, the Chair shall recognize minority.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000458Independent and majority members in an alternating manner when practicable.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000459The Chair first recognizes the Honorable Percy Zendanya from the minority.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000460Pag-uswang Percy, you have the floor.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000461Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair. Magandang umaga po sa DOE family led by Secretary Sharon.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000462Ito po mga nakakaraang araw.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000463karami-rami na po tayo ng mga hinarap ng mga budget briefings.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000464At kadalasan po, yung mga budget briefings na ito ay mga grievance mechanisms
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000465para po sa mga departamento na nakaranas ng matinding mga pagbabas sa kanilang budget.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000466At siguro po, in so many days, this is the first time na wala akong gano'ng narinig
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000467na grievance from our colleagues from the executive.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000468Napansin ko rin po na across all areas, from PS, MOOE hanggang CO,
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000469ay may increase po tayo with an overall increase of more than a little over 25%.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000470Secretary Green, why is this the case po for DOE kaya?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000471I think, Mr. Chair, I think because the increases are focused on three things.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000472It's the gradiometry, mobile energy system, and the automation.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000473Just briefly lang.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000474Yung gradiometry.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000475Kasi wala tayong data on what we have as resources here in the Philippines
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000476on oil and gas and other matters.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000477So, this should have been done 10, 20 years back.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000478That's why we don't have any new exploration.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000479We only have malampaya until today.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000480So, with that new data, investors will see what we have.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000481We cannot sell something that we don't know what's in it.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000482So, that's why we need the gradiometry study.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000483It will take about 2 billion pesos.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000484This is a continuing project, 2026.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0004852026 was funded.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000486So, another budget was allotted for 2027, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000487This is for energy security.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000488Now, the MES is a mobile energy system na parang siyang container.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000489Tapos may mga solar panels with battery and maybe turbina ng for diesel or whatever technology there is.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000490That will address that whenever there's an emergency,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000491we can deploy these units to, for example,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000492the usual path would be like Masbate, Bicol area, and up to the north.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000493So, we'll deploy it strategically in some parts also, in some islands na wala talagang connection.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000494We can put it there like what we did in Kalayaan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000495Kalayaan ba tama?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000496Pag-asa pala.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000497Pag-asa.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000498The third one, sir, is the ISSP.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000499DOE needs to be automated.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000500Otherwise, there are more contracts.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000501Every year and every month, actually, but the system is still manual.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000502So, for us to have a more data-driven data analysis also of what we need as policies,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000503we need it to be automated so we can move faster and be more transparent.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000504So, this is to automate from front to back end, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000505So, those are the three that contributed to the 25% increase, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000506Kaya ako po tinanong, kasi mapapasana all po pala tayo when we listen to the budget of the DOE.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000507Sana yung equally critical agencies natin, lalong-lalong yung social services,
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000508would also enjoy the same increase in their budget and not a significant cut as we have seen the past few days.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000509Thank you, Madam Secretary, for the very comprehensive explanation.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000510Alam ko po, bahagi ito na isang malaking programa at isang malaking plano.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000511Pero po para sa ating mga kababayan na nakikinig, given all this po,
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000512bababa na po ba ang presyo ng kuryente?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000513Mr. Chair, just before that, Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000514the 25% increase in comparison to the other agencies is 25% of 2.5 billion.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000515It's really very small compared to the other agencies.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000516Now, to lower the price of electricity, it's a very multifaceted issue.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000517We are, if we have, generally, yes, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000518If you ask me, yes, it will lower the price.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000519If we have more oil and gas that are indigenous, yes, it will lower it.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000520If we have more renewable, yes, it will lower it.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000521If we have a good coordination between the policy and then the regulation,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000522those are several, we need several things to make it lower and lower.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000523And all these policies, eventually, the intention of all the policies that DOE is doing now,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000524the intention really is to lower the rates, sir.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000525Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000526Maraming salamat po, Madam Secretary, for giving that assurance sa mga kababayan po nating nanonood.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000527At araw-araw po ay kinakabanting makakatanggap ng kanilang electric bill.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000528Alam na po siguro ng NEA na itatanong ko ang question na ito.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000529Sukin nyo na po ako taon-taon.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000530Pero nalulungkot po ako na sukin nyo ako taon-taon.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000531Last year po sa budget hearing natin, nabanggit po ng NEA Administrator, Nani Almeda,
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000532na i-rescind ng NEA ang Memorandum No. 2023-52.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000533Pero alam po natin na hindi ito na-rescind.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000534And in fact, suspended lamang po ito.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000535Ang tanong ko po, bakit po hindi pa na-rescind ng NEA ang iligal na memorandum na ito?
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000536Tapos kanina po kasi, I was looking at the presentation,
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000537ang dami pong mga linemen na mga electric co-ops,
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000538na siyang bayani natin para ma-restore ang electricity every time merong malaking sakuna sa ating bansa.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000539Pero marami po sa kanila na pagkakaitan ng collective bargaining agreement
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000540dahil po dito sa inyong iligal na memorandum na ito.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000541So ma, ano po nangyari, Admin Almeda?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000542Thank you, Mr. Chair.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000543We have addressed the situation of the collective bargaining agreement issue.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000544Just for the information of the committee,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000545we have already sat down with the Secretary of Labor and the various groups
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000546and we are coming up with a manualization of the Electric Cooperative Industry Tripartite Council.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000547Okay.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000548Wherein DOLE, the National Mediation Board, NEA, and the labor groups
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000549will work together in a technical working group committee
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000550to come up with the guidelines of the rules that will govern the collective bargaining agreement.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000551I beg your indulgence, sir.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000552We cannot...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000553The memorandum...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000554The subject memorandum is suspended.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000555It's suspended for the simple reason that there are peculiarities in the electric cooperative industry.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000556That has to be considered.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000557But we are trying to resolve everything through this tripartite council
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000558as well as the due representation of the federation and the labor groups concerned.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000559And hopefully, we can move forward.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000560We have already convened two weeks ago.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000561Our next meeting will be on September 10.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000562And once we are able to come up with a resolution through the tripartite council,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000563everything will be within the framework of the manualization, sir.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000564Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000565Maraming salamat po, Admin Almeda.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000566Pasensya na po kayo sa impatience, no?
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000567Kasi marami po ang mga nakabimbi ng mga CBA ng ating mga unions,
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000568iba't iba mga power cooperatives po sa ating bansa.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000569Kung ito po ay sa Senado, sasabihin po sa akin nung kabilang side na asked and answered.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000570This was the same question I raised last year.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000571And more or less, this is the same answer that I'm getting this year.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000572Mr. Chair, just for the information, there were a lot of CBAs that were already resolved.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000573Medyo dun lang po talaga sa mga CBAs that will affect the very operations of the electric cooperatives.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000574NEA has been trying to find a way.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000575On how to give in to the demands in the CBA.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000576Mr. Chair, thank you.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000577Again, I'll go back to my previous question.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000578Will this illegal memorandum be rescinded?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000579Eventually, sir, if we will be able to come up with resolutions through the Tripartite Council,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000580it will be rescinded, sir.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-000581Not only suspended.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000582That was the answer last year.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000583And it has been a year after.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000584Kawawa naman po yung ating mga manggagawa.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000585Sana po sa susunod na budget hearing,
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000586hindi na po ito ating tanong kasi po na-rescind na ang Memorandum No. 2023-52.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000587We will also forward a comprehensive list of the concerns for our colleagues from Power Centro.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000588Ito po yung mga bayani natin sa power sector.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000589At bigyan po natin sila ng tamang pagkilala.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000590At bayan po natin yung mga gagawa na tinitiyak na may kuryenteng dumadaloy sa bawat tahanan po sa mga lugar sa Pilipinas.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000591Maraming pong salamat, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000592And maraming salamat po sa DOE family.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000593Thank you, Congressman Zendaya.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000594Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000595Next to interpolate from the majority, Congressman Celso Rehensha.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000596Sir, to recognize.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000597Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000598I would like to raise this concern on Iligan City regarding the rising electricity costs and supply stability.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000599Mr. Chair, Iligan's electricity charge increased from 13 pesos and 60 centavos per kilowatt
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000600hour in July 2026 to 15 pesos and 13 centavos per kilowatt hour in August this year also,
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000601an increase of 1 peso and 52 centavos, or an 11.19 percent in just one month.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000602At this level, Iligan is among the higher rates charged by major distribution utilities in the country.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000603For comparison, Mr. Chair, reported rates are approximately
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-00060414.96 pesos per kilowatt hour for BICO or Visayas Electric Cooperative and 14 pesos and 78 centavos for Meralco and 12.31 pesos for Cipalco.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000605This is particularly concerning because Iligan, Mr. Chair, is the host of Agus 5, 6, and 7 with a combined dependable capacity of approximately 279 MW.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000613Mr. Chair, with this, I would like to address my concern to the PISAM through the help of the Honorable Secretary.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000614The following points. Number one, Mr. Chair, what was the basis for reducing the firm allocation serving Iligan to 8.75 MW, where the city's actual demand, supply needs, and the possible impact on consumers considered? Number two, can the PISAM consider providing an additional 16.25 MW of firm power, bringing the allocation serving Iligan City back to 25 MW, if feasible as an interim measure while longer-term supply alternatives are being pursued? Those are the two concerns, Mr. Chair. PISAM?
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-000615Mr. Chair, regarding the first question on why there were reductions in our capacity allocations for certain cooperatives and distributed utilities, sir,
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-000616we implemented a program in 2026, re-evaluation.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-000617We had to reduce the supply requirements because what we provide to our co-ops is based on the actual capacity of the power plants.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-000618And due to the reductions in the dependable capacity of Agus and Pulangi, we also had to correspondingly reduce.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-000620Our capacity allocations for co-ops to use, including illegal light and power.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-000621As to the second question, sir, if it's possible to increase the capacity allocation to illegal light and power, sir,
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-000622as I committed to you earlier, sir, on our side meeting, sir, PISAM and our trading team will evaluate the request of illegal light
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-000623and we will try to increase the firm and if not non-firm allocation to illegal light and power, sir.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-000624Thank you. Thank you very much, sir. And, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000625Mr. Chair, we understand, Mr. Chair, that the PISAM has limited capacity and must follow its policies.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000626We are not asking preferential treatment or special treatment.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000627We are asking for assistance for our consumers, given illegal role as host to major national power assets.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000628We respectfully seek a fair and practical solution that can provide greater supply,
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000629stability, and more reasonable electricity costs.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000630Mr. Chair, I also raise this because the issue may not be unique to Iligan.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000631How firm power is allocated with the local demand and consumer impact are considered.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000632Could affect other districts as well.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000633We hope that Iligan's case can also help guide a fair approach for similarly situated communities.
Rep. Celso G. Regencia
asr-000634Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's all.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000635Thank you. Thank you, Kong.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000636Next to interpolate, the idol of my mom and mine as well, Congressman Chaldokno.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000637Marami salamat po, Chair. Magandang umaga po sa atin lahat.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000638I'd like to address my first few questions, Mr. Chair, to Secretary Garin.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000639My questions relate to Solar Philippines.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000640Recently, may nakita po akong interview ninyo where nabanggit po,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000641ninyo na ang amount ay na dapat ibabalik sa gobyerno ay umabot ng 24 billion pesos.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000642Did I get that figure correct?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000643Yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000644Out of the 24 billion pesos, magkano na po ang nakuha o narecover ng ating pamahalaan?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000645The 24 billion, Mr. Chair, is composed of different things.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000646There was a payment of 80 million
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000647million for training and development fee mr chair the others are for the penalties on
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000648performance bond which is for the gaya projects mr chair which are not part of the payment
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000649so how much of the 24 billion has been recovered ma'am
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000649-split-280 million
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000650mr chair the the issue currently is in the hands of the department of justice and uh
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000651uh and then the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000652offices
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000653with the osg also mr chair and uh those they are handling the osg is handling the civil case
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000654and the and the criminal cases with the doj mr chair um the purpose of these cases is also to
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000655recover the 14 billion in expired bonds
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000655-split-2yes mr chair
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000655-split-3how about the has the doe taken any steps
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000656to blacklist solar philippines
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000656-split-2um mr chair uh current
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000657uh
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000658we have just recently issued a department because it's not in the any circular of the doe
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000659uh on the uh the blacklisting or even suspension so now we have current we have recently i think
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000660a month or two months ago we have recently issued a new circular on gencoris accountability which
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000661gives them three strikes and we can blacklist them. And so,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000662we have just recently issued the guidelines and now we're working
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000663on it, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000665Mr. Chair, may we request for a copy
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000666of the guidelines?
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000667At sana, inaasahan po natin na dapat nga ma-blacklist.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000668Yes, kindly. You are directed to submit the guidelines.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000669Thank you, Secretary.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000670You will submit [unclear].
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000671Mr. Chair, if I may address a few questions to the Chair of the ERC,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000672Attorney Francis Juan.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000673Good morning po.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000674Familiar po
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000675kayo sa
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000676salitang
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000677bill shock,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000678I suppose?
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000679Opo, yung biglang pagtaas nung singil.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000680Ako, napakaraming mga kababayan natin ang nagiging biktima ng bill shock po tuwing natatanggap nila yung mga electric bills nila.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000681At marami rin pong natuwa nung nagsalita si Pangulo na dapat nga tanggalin na yung system loss, pati yung 12% value-added tax na pinapataw po dito. May I know the position of the ERC? Kailangan niyo pa ba ng batas para maipatupad ito?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000682Doon po sa pagtatanggal ng VAT on system loss, ito po ay tinatrabaho na ngayon ng ERC kasama ang BIR.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000683Nagkaroon na nga po kami ng resolution, yung Resolution 26, Series of 2026, na kung saan aming kinlasipika ang system loss charge as a charge that is government mandated.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000684Kaya maaari siyang mapabilang sana sa mga singil na
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000685kapareha na government mandated tulad ng
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000686lifeline subsidy with [unclear] allowance.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000687Nang sa ganon, sila ay hindi na makasama sa VAT base.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000688At ang atin naman pong aksyon ay pinag-usapan natin kasama ang BIR
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000689at sila ngayon po ay bumabalangkas sa kanilang RMC nang sa ganon
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000690ay maisakatuparan yung effectively ng pagtatanggal ng VAT on system loss
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000691dahil yung system loss cost na ito ay hindi na mapasasama doon sa base na mapapatawan ng value-added tax.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000692Pagdating naman po doon sa mismong system loss charge dahil po ito ay
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000693nakabase doon sa cost recovery ng ating mga distribution utilities.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000694tungkol sa system losses nila.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000695Ito po ay sa kasalukuyan pinapayagan
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000696subject doon sa CAP na itinakda ng komisyon.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000697Kung magkakaroon po ng pagbabago sa batas
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000698at ito po ay tuluyan ng ipatatanggal, maaari po itong magawa.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000699Sa pamamagitan po ng umiiral na batas,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000700maaari po naming maribisa yung CAPs,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000701at kung ito ay maaaring maibaba na to the barest minimum,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000702kakailanganin lang din po
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000703ng koordinasyon at ito
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000704naman po ay ginagawa natin
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000705together with the Department of Energy at ng NEA.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000706Nang sa ganon kung ang ating pong magiging aksyon
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000707ay yung pagpapababa ng CAP para effectively ay matanggal
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000708na rin yung system loss charge sa ating singilin.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000709Ito naman po ay hindi makakaapekto doon sa ating mga distribution utilities,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000710hindi papangit yung kanilang serbisyo sa kanilang mga consumers
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000711at nang sa ganon ay mas [unclear] pa nila yung kanilang efficient operations.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000712Kakailangan din na kumilos kami
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000713pagdating doon sa pagtatakda ng kanilang angkop na singil
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000714at sa pag-aapruba ng kanilang capital expenditure projects
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000715nang sa ganon ay makapag-implementa sila
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000716ng mga proyekto na makapagpapababa sa kanilang
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000717system loss lalo na yung technical system loss po.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000718Doon po,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000719Mr. Chair, doon po sa 12%
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000720na value-added tax na tatanggalin.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000721When, kailangan
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000722natin maasahan na mangyayari po yan.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000723I understand, nagko-coordinate kayo sa BIR.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000724When can consumers expect that
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000725mararamdaman po nila ito?
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000726Before that, can you explain lang kung ano yung tatanggalin doon
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000727ng non-tech?
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000728Lifeline rate?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000728-split-2Sir, doon po sa system loss,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000729ang pag-uusap po natin with the Department of Energy
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000730and the other energy family.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000731Ang tingnan po natin ay yung
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000732klasifikasyon muna
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000733ng system loss,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000734mayroong technical,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000735mayroong non-technical.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000736Doon sa non-technical, tulad
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000737ng pilferage, ito'y talagang malinaw
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000738na bunga noong
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000739man-made
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000740na losses
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000741pag nanakaw
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000742or mga
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000743defektibong metro. Ito po
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000744ang nakikita natin maaaring
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000745unahin
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000746nang sa ganon magkaroon din ng
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000747insentibo ang ating mga
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000748distribution utilities na mas maging
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000749mapagbantay
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000750doon sa kanilang mga sistema
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000751at nang mabawasan
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000752yung incidents ng
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000753pag nanakaw. Tungkol naman po
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000754doon sa technical
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000755system losses, ito
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000756po kasi ay ma-address kung
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000757magkakaroon po ng
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000758upgrading sa mga pasilidad
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000759ng ating mga distribution utilities
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000760kaya't ang tinitingnan po
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000761ay yung pag-utay-utay na pagpabababa
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000762ng CAPS. Kasabay nito
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000763ay yung pag-rollout ng ating
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000764mga distribution utilities ng kanilang
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000765mga programa at proyekto
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000766na kakailangan din siyempre yung maponduhan
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000767nang sa ganon ang kanilang
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000768system loss performance
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000769ay mas mapaganda.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000770Tungkol naman po doon sa BIR
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000771ngayon lang po ay nakita ko
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000772yung post ng BIR na kanilang
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000773sinusulat na yung kanilang RMC
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000774at sinabi po ng BIR
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000775na magiging efektibo ang kanilang
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000776RMC
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000777kasabay doon sa pagiging efektibo
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000778ng aming
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000779resolution na na-issue.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000780Ang aming pong resolution ay
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000781na-publish ngayong araw na ito
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000782at after 15 days
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000783maari na itong magiging
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000784efektib. Kaya't
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000785inaasahan po natin na
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000786upon the 15th
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000787day ay maglalabas naman po
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000788ang BIR ng kanilang RMC.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000789Depende na po kung ano po
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000790ang magiging efektibity clause
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000791nung kanilang resolusyon.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000792Pagkatapos po noon ay
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000793amin pong i-issuhan ng direktiba
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000794ang ating mga distribution utilities
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000795nang sa ganon ay baguhin nila
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000796ang kanilang bill format
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000797ng naaayon doon sa ipalalabas ng BIR.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000798So maari po itong mangyari
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000799sa Oktubre or Nobyembre
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000800at ang implementasyon ito
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000801ay susunod na. Dahil po
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000802kakailangan ng baguhin ng ating mga
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000803distribution utilities yung kanilang bill format
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000804at yung kanilang mga sistema.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000805Yung kanilang mga systems, mga software
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000806na nag-i-issue ng mga bills
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000807upang nang sa ganon masunod
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000808yung kagustuhan ng BIR
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000809na ang system loss ay mapabilang
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000810doon sa mga singil na government
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000811mandated. Nang sa ganon sila
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000812ay nakagrupo in one at hindi
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000813na sila malinaw na makakasama
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000814doon sa ma-iimplementahan
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000815ng value-added tax.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000816Thank you for that.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000817Just a few more questions, Mr. Chair, if I may.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000818Yes, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000819If you can...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000820Sir Chair, I...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000821Since we're talking about system loss
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000822and I'm sure many of the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000823honorable members are interested,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000824if we can just show the one
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000825slide that we have.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000826In system loss, it's not
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000827as simple as
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000828ERC saying...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000829Ma'am, paanin ka na yung slide?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000830Okay na?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000831Pakiaayos lang yung slide.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000832I think this is very interesting.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000833Just to clarify.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000834Yes, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000835Ito kasi yan, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000836You cannot just say,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000837ERC, isiro mo na yan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000838So we have to go on phases.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000839Why? Because it takes
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000840some work to get it lower.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000841What is system loss? There's technical and non-technical.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000842In fact, there are
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000843non-technical na yung nakaw
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000844or pilferage or yung nagja-jumper.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000845And that is not just simply
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000846saying, easy, wag mo i-charge yan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000847There has to be some work
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000848behind that.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000849We have to do anti-pilferage
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000850enforcement, consumer education,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000851billing and collection efficiency,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000852meter management.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000853Kaya ayusin yung meter.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000854Minsan, pag luma na, madali siyang
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000855malagyan ng jumper or mababa siya.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000856Consumer database cleansing.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000857Kailangan ayusin ang efficiency
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000858ng electric cooperatives.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000859Institutional strengthening policy
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000860and regulatory reform.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000861So it will go on phases, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000862This will take time.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000863A lot of work for the electric
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000864co-ops and also money.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000865Because the lines have to be improved.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000866Ang metro nila,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000867kailangan ayusin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000868So it will take time.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000869It won't cost,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000870don't worry, Mr. Che,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000871we won't ask for additional funding for this.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000872We'll figure it out.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000873Pero just to show you how much it will cost
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000874and it will go on phases.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000875That's for non-technical.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000876Now the technical is the more difficult part
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000877which will really require
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000878a lot of
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000879evaluation,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000880the part of the electric co-ops.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000881Kasi evaluate nila yung mga linya nila,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000882transformers nila, metro nila,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000883lahat-lahat po.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000884Ang sistema para may improve
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000885yung flow ng electricity.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000886So it's not just about
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000887telling them,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0008882% na lang kayo.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000889We have to make them
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000890evaluate it and set
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000891an optimal design.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000892So that will take them about 6 months.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000893So it's the next page.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000894If we go to the next page,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000895that's the technical loss.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000896So it will take the electric co-operatives
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000897about 6 months to make that plan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000898It's not very easy.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000899Because it's an evaluation of the electric co-op.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000900It's the whole system.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0009016 months and then ERC will come in
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000902and set the limitations.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000903So marami pa pong kailangan nakikomponens yan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000904So, and then
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000905ERC can set the rates.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000906We have to go in tandem.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000907Kailangan yan,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000908synchronized kami.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000909Para hindi naman nabuburden at malulugi
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000910yung EC or hindi nila ipapasa
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000911sa mga consumers yung cost.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000912It has to be done properly.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000913But more or less stage 1, 2, 3,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-00091425%, less 25%,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000915until 100% of the non-technical
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000916is zero na.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000917The technical loss,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000918we can report to you
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000919maybe the first half of next year.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-000920Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000921If I may add lang po, no.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000922Yung sinasabi po ni Secretary,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000923yung technical, non-technical,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000924karamihan po kasi hindi rin naintindihan.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000925And even sa DUs po,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000926magkakaiba po yan.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000927May private tayo
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000928and may electric cooperative tayo.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000929Ang electric cooperative is non-profit.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000930So magkakaiba po yung treatment doon.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000931Yung private po, may profit po yan.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000932But the good thing is,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000933there is a plan,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000934there's a timetable,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000935and we are going to do it.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000936Thank you, Chair.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000937Thank you, Secretary Sharon.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000938Ilan na lang po yung tanong ko.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000939Ito naman tungkol sa WESM.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000940Meron din recently na naiulat
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000941na mismo galing sa ERC
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000942that there was a technical flaw
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000943sa wholesale electricity spot market
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000944pricing mechanism.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000945Ang naging resulta po,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000946ay sumobra ang nasingil
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000947sa mga consumers natin,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000948especially sa Visayas area.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000949In fact, according to the reports,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000950ang masakit pa nga dito ay
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000951hindi nga yung refund ay hindi binalik
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000952sa mga consumers
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000953kung hindi binigay sa mga power companies.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000954My first question is,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000955sa ERC,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000956magkano po ang eksaktong kabuhang
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000957overcharge sa mga consumer,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000958lalo na sa Visayas grid,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000959mula nung June 2021,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-000960dahil sa maling pricing model na ito ng WESM?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-000961Chair Francis?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000962Thank you, Mr. Chairperson.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000963Ang nat-discovery po natin sa WESM,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000964wala pong overcharging.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000965Ibig sabihin po, tama yung mga inilalabas na
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000966locational marginal prices
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000967ng ating market management system.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000968Within that market management system
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000969ay yung tinatawag natin market optimization
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000970model na kung saan dinidetermina niya
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000971ang presyo ng bawat node sa ating kabuhang grid.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000972At ito ang mga presyong gagabay ngayon
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000973doon sa mga transaksyong nangyayari sa WESM.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000974Tama po ang inilalabas na presyo.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000975Pero po, ang nakita natin,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000976sa tuwing nagkakaroon ng binding constraint,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000977ibig sabihin, may congestion
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000995doon sa interconnection na kumukonekta ng Visayas at Mindanao o kaya naman ng Luzon at Visayas,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000996nagkakaroon ng biglang pagsipa doon sa line rental.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000997At supposedly, kapagka nagkaroon naman ng pangungulekta ng line rental,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000998ito ay mapapasama doon sa bayarin ng mga distribution utilities na bumili mula sa WESEM.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-000999Pero kung yung amount na malilikom mula sa lahat ng mga customers o yung tinatawag nating trading amount ng mga customers
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001000ay sosobra doon sa pangangailangan upang mabayaran.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001001Yung trading amount naman, kabuoang trading amount ng para sa generators, magkakaroon ng surplus.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001002At nandoon sa mekanismo ng WESEM, kapagka may surplus, dapat ito ay ibabalik.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001003Doon sa mayroong kontribusyon dyan sa surplus na yan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001004Bakit nagkakaroon ng surplus?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001005Mari kong ipaliwanag lang po. Hopefully, maging mas simple.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001006Ang ating pong locational marginal prices sa bawat node, ito po ay binubuo ng system marginal price o ito yung palang base price.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001007At on top of the base price, ay mayroong cost.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001008Mayroong cost of line losses at saka yung cost of congestion.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001009Bakit magkakaroon ng line losses?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001010Kasi mayroon ng inherent din na losses even sa ating transmission lines.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001011Kaya kung halimbawa ang isang customer, mangangailangan ng 100 megawatt, pero mayroong 2% na nawawala sa linya,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001012ang isang generator na magsusupply dito sa customer na ito, kakailanganin kung halimbawa 2%,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001013kakailanganin na magsusupply hindi lang ng 100 megawatt, kailangan may sobra na 102 kung 2%.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001014Dahil kung kailangan niya 100 at 100 lang ang isupply ng generator, ang mangyayari niyan, kulang.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001015Kaya mayroong kailangan siyang 2 megawatt na additional na isusupply at yung 2 megawatt na yan, may kabayaran niyan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001016Kaya ito ay nadadagdag doon sa locational marginal price.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001017Ng node na ito, ito po ay yung isa pa lang na component, yung line loss.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001018Pagdating naman sa congestion, kung ang isang node ay masusupplyan sana ng generator na nandito sa kabilang node,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001019pero ang linya ay congested na, umabot na doon sa line limit na yan,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001020ibig sabihin kahit pa ito sana ang pinakamurang generator, para masupplyan yung pangangailangan ng customer na ito,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001021kailangan ng mayroong isang generator pa na nakakonekta sa kabilang linya na mag-generate kung anong megawatt yung hindi maitawid dito sa linya na ito.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001022Ito naman po ang tinatawag na congestion cost.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001023Ngayon po, kada node, iba-iba ang nagiging LMP.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001024Nagkakaroon ng malaking pagkakaiba.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001025Normally, maliit lang naman ang variance ng ating mga...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001026LMPs.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001027Pero ang napansin po namin, sa tuwing nagkakaroon ng binding constraint,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001028kasi po, hindi naman lahat ng generation na kailangan ng Visayas ay nage-generate sa Visayas.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001029Mayroon po siyang kinukuha mula sa Mindanao at ito ay dumadaloy doon sa interconnection ng Visayas at Mindanao.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001030Ngayon po, may limitasyon ang pwedeng tumawid ng megawatts doon.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001031Kaya sa tuwing ang pangangailangan ng Visayas ay napakalaki at hindi na ito kayang maitawid doon sa 450 na yan,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001032ang yung ating market management system, yung MDOM na yan,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001033ang ginawa niya, naglalabas siya ng magkaibang SMP or system marginal price.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001034Iba ang system marginal price doon sa Mindanao, iba ang nagiging system marginal price sa Visayas.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001035Mas mababa ang sa Mindanao.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001036Kasi mas mababa yung marginal plant doon.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001037Dito sa Visayas, mas mataas kasi nga, mas mahal yung planta, yung marginal plant na kakailanganin para masupply yung demand sa Visayas.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001038Dahil nagkakaiba yung system marginal price, nagiging malaki ang difference ng kanilang LMP.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001039Remember, ang SMP kung isa lang yan across all the nodes, maliit lang ang variance dahil manggagaling lang yan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001040At saka sa congestion cost.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001041Ngayong nagkaroon ng SMP na iba sa Mindanao, mas mababa at mas mataas doon sa SMP ng Visayas,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001042yung mga distribution utilities natin, sila yung mga customers, halimbawa sila yung nakakonekta sa node sa Visayas.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001043Kung meron silang kontrata sa isang generation company na nasa Mindanao,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001044karaniwan sana mababa yung makukuha nilang kontrata.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001045Kung meron silang kuryente, batay na rin doon sa kanilang kontrata with that generation company.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001046Kaya lang, since hindi makapagpatawid ng kuryente yung galing Mindanao,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001047yung pangangailangan ng distribution utility na yan sa Visayas ay manggagaling sa isang planta na mas mahal na manggagaling sa Visayas.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001048Kaya, ang exposure niya nangyayari, meron siyang exposure sa WSM dahil in effect,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001049meron siyang kuryente na yan sa Visayas at mas mahal ang LMP sa Visayas.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001050Ngayon po, paano nagkakaroon ng spike sa line rental?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001051Meron po kasing formularyo ang line rental at ito po ay nakadepende doon sa difference ng LMP ng seller o ng generator,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001052yung nasa Mindanao, kasi kung ang generator ay nasa Mindanao, at yung LMP ng customer sa Visayas.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001053Ang ito po ay malaki, malaki rin po ang nakakalculate na line rental.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001054Pero, wala pong mali doon, wala pong overcharge doon.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001055Ang nangyayari lang po sa ating price determination methodology na umiiral sa WSM,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001056ang nakokolektang amount mula doon sa customer na nasa Visayas, dahil nakabasingado sa LMP niya sa Visayas,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001057mas malaki yung trading amount.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001058Ang nakokolekta from the customers dito sa Visayas, mas malaki kaysa doon sa dapat sanang ibayad sa mga generator.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001059Dahil ang kanila namang nodal price, yung LMP nila ay nasa Mindanao.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001060Ang pagbalansi sana yan, para mabawi nung na-expose sa mataas na line rental,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001061kung magkakaroon ng mataas din na net settlement surplus, dapat ay ang distribution nito, ang allocation nito,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001062yung formulari yung approved ng ERC, dapat ang allocation yan ay mas malaki doon sa mas malaki ang binayad dahil doon sa congestion.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001063Ang nakita po nating diferensya, dahil nga po yung market management system, yung makina,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001064ay naglabas ng presyo na malaki ang variance ng LMPs at nagkaroon ng dalawang SMP yung magkabila.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001065Pagdating po, ipagkakaroon.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001066Ipapasok ngayon itong data na ito, ipapasok po yan doon sa isang sistema pa na ginagamit ng ating market.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001067Ito naman yung tinatawag na CRSS, yung Central Registration Settlement System.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001068Dito po, papasok sana yung datos na yun galing sa MMS at dito sa CRSS, kukomputin niya rin niya automatically yung lalabas na net settlement allocation.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-001069Kaya lang po.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-001070Magalita, Mr. Chair. I understand the technical explanation but my question is very simple.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-001071Paano niyo sisiguruduhin na hindi na po mauulit ito at paano rin may babalik yung dapat ibalik na refund?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001072At sir, in layman's term, marami po kasing hindi, technically, hindi naiintindihan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001073Naglabas po kami ng order noong August 13, 2026.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001074Una ay interim.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001075Muna yung pangungulekta ng line rental.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001076Kung ano ang magiging shortfall doon sa trading amount ng mga generators, i-allocate siyang kolektahin mula doon sa mga customers.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001077Second, ang longer term solution is gumawa ng isang sistema, ang IMOP, ang market operator,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001078nagsaganon kung ano yung datos na papasok sa CRSS.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001079Ito ay nakabatay na doon sa kung ano talaga dapat ang line loss at saka ang congestion cost.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001080As if.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001081Iisa lang yung naging SMP nila noong dalawang nodes para nagsaganon tama ang maging alokasyon.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001082Ito po ang gagawin ngayon ng IMOP at yung mga nakaraang panahon na nagkaroon ng tingin namin ng hindi patas na pagbabalik noong net settlement surplus allocation.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001083Ito po ay pinag-utos namin sa IMOP na ipa-audit sa isang third party.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001084Nagsaganon makita natin yung extent kung merong dapat na mga distribution utilities, lalo na doon sa Visayas,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001085na mas mataas ang kanilang naibayad na line rental pero maliit ang balik sa kanila, nagsaganon ay maibalik sa kanila yan.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-001086Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have no more questions.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-001087May I just end by, first of all, kailangan na kailangan po dapat ma-report nyo sa amin ulit yung mangyayari dito sa WSM refund.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-001088Asahan natin.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-001089Ito ay aksyonan agad.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-001090Pangalawa yung ating VAT, 12% VAT sa systems loss at yung mismong pagtanggal ng systems loss, we will eagerly await that as well as the blacklisting of the Solar Philippines and other actions to be taken para naman sa ating renewable energy.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-001091Thank you so much, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001092Thank you, Kong Chell.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001093Actually, Chair, ERC, would you like to respond regarding the...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001094target dun sa billing for the systems loss? Kung kailan yung target nyo?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001095Ang target po natin is kung September malabas na yung sa BIR din at maging effective siya, lalabas naman po namin yung direktiba namin sa distribution utilities para baguhin yung kanilang bill format.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001096May mga iba pa pong implementation issues na nakikita natin pagdating sa removal ng VAT.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001097Dahil po...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001098Ang system loss na ma-recover ng distribution utilities sa pamamagitan ng pagpataw ng kanilang system loss charge, ito ay malalaman lamang after the fact na after na makapag-bill na yung generator sa distribution utilities.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001099So, atin na itong ni-raise as an issue sa BIR and hopefully ma-address ito ng BIR kasi ayaw naman din po natin na magkakaroon po ng sitwasyon na mapagbabayad muna yung...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001100At tapos ay ma-re-refund o i-cocollectahin nila mula sa BIR.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001101Ang nakikita po nating maaaring implementasyon nito ay kung ang mga distribution utilities,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001102i-collect lang sila ng VAT corresponding doon sa kanilang energy purchases, katumbas doon sa makocollecta nila at yun ang i-re-remit nila.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001103At to follow, kung ano yung magiging corresponding na system loss,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001104na amount na hindi naman makakasama na at i-reconcile na lang after that month.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001105So, ito po ay mga implementation issues and tayo naman po ay nakikipag-usap sa BIR.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001106Nang sa ganon, ay maisagawa na itong pagtatanggal ng VAT sa lalong madaling panahon.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001107Hopefully, after September, kung October, meron na po yan. At the earliest is November po ang implementation.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001108Thank you, Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001109So, dyan nyo po makikita na action man po.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001110So, ito po ang ERC ngayon. That's why I'm very supportive doon sa dagdag nyong budget na 200 million.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001111Ano, ang laki po ng binabantayan po nila, ang daming ginagawa, may systems loss pa, very highly technical.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001112So, we need to support ERC. So, November, inaasahan po namin yun.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001113Dahil 19th Congress pa, pinaglalaban na po yan ni Congressman Dagooc.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001114Ngayon po, mangyayari na Congressman Dagooc yung ipinaglalaban natin noon pa.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001115So, congratulations.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001116So, next, to interpelate, ang pinakamagaling pong Congressman sa Camarineson, Congressman Nelson Negacion.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001117You have the floor.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001118Salamat po, Mr. Chairman. Magandang umaga po sa DOE family, headed by Secretary Sharon Garin.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001119I will be talking about electric cooperatives, especially...
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001120...its franchises.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001121It is a matter of record and almost public knowledge na yung prangkesa ng mga electric cooperatives ay mag-e-expire na.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001122Either this coming 2028 or 2029.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001123Pero, syempre, exempted doon yung Casureco 4.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001124Kasi yung Casureco 4, magaling po yung Congressman doon sa 4th District.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001125As early as last Congress, nakapagpa-approve na po siya ng prangkesa for another 25 years.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001126Kaya, mas magaling po talaga yun, si Congressman Arne Puentebella.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001127Okay.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001128My question can be answered by the Secretary herself, or if you want po, pwede niyo pong ipasa sa ating NEA Administrator.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001129Would you agree with me that...
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001130Would you agree with me that the grant of franchise by Congress is indispensable?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001130-split-2Mr. Chair, if Admin Nani can answer.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001131good good afternoon mr chair yes i would agree with the congressman ligation that the grant of
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001132franchise is indispensable uh that would mean that without the the franchise electric cooperatives
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001133or distribution utilities cannot do business it cannot operate it cannot distribute power
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001134yes i agree uh mr chair
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001135however there are extreme conditions or extreme situations that
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001136uh electric cooperatives will not deserve i mean do not deserve any franchise renewal but on extreme
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001137cases but on functioning on functioning electric cooperatives i believe uh it is very uh important
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001138uh that uh congress supports the renewal of franchisor uh
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001139Ah, pupunta po ako diyan mamaya, 'yon sa tinutukoy ninyong functioning electric cooperatives.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001140Pero kaya po naitanong ko po ito kasi po may nagsasabi na hindi ganoon kahalaga yung pagpapa-approve ng prangkesa.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001141Pero ngayon malinaw na kailangan po siya. Okay. Opo.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001142okay now allow me mr chair to proceed to certain policy questions that
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001143have both national and parochial importance my questions is for the benefit of not only myself
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001144but also for the benefit of our citizens not as well-versed
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001145in the power industry i am curious as to the kind of market we have in the philippines as to the
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001146sector in our power industry now would you describe generation market as competitive or
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001147monopoly including the transmission sector
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001148uh personally uh mr chair uh i believe that was a subject matter of a pira and epira was
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001149passed to make the uh generation market competitive so in so far as generation that
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001150should be competitive meaning the the government will allow as many players as possible i believe
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001151so mr chair what about transmission transmission is
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001152under a franchise to uh granted to the national grid corporation of the philippines i think there
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001153is only a sole operator for that okay what about distribution and this time we are talking about
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001154electric cooperatives uh i believe uh mr chair is there is a franchise issued the the state should
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001155take cognizance of that and that gives rise to the authority to the very existence of the electric
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001156cooperative to conduct
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001157the business of distribution meaning exclusive exclusive in the given area exclusive in other
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001158words you are agreeing with the decision of the supreme court in milwaukee milwaukee industries
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001159versus pampanga three electric cooperative where a doctrine was issued uh stating that
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001160distribution utilities are granted exclusive franchise in area in given areas precisely because
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001161of the youth's pre pre-operation cost of building lines substations and transformers now out of
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001162curiosity uh madam secretary or uh mr administrator does the doe have a division or bureau conducting
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001163feasibility studies concerning the entry of a new private distribution utility
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001164local areas in the philippines and its economic impact
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001165mr chair i think the power bureau of the doe
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001166sir
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001167please answer
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001168yeah
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-001169yes good morning
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-001170there's a question um mr chair honorable member an obligation we have the electric power industry
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-001171management bureau that monitors all uh the distribution all distribution utilities including
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-001172electric cooperatives through the submissions of distribution development plan and power supply
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-001173procurement program we do assessment of this electric cooperative based on the compliance thank
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001174you your answer pertains to electric cooperatives my question is about private entity coming in in
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001175a given territory do you have a bureau or is this part of the division or bureau that would be
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001176conducting a an economic impact in so far as that new player is concerned as our monitoring
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-001177your honor includes private distribution utilities but for new franchise holder or incoming franchise
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-001178so we don't monitor normal assets okay
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001179and power corporation with a paid up capital of only five million pesos
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001180now my question should a private distribution company with a paid-up capital of only 5 million
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001181be if
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001182franchise assuming franchise will it be required to build its own distribution lines
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001183substations and transformers from scratch or will its franchise application contemplate use of
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001184interconnection with or acquisition of facilities of that electric cooperative in the area
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001185mr chair the the franchise
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001186is actually we don't assess uh uh we are don't have the power to to to say yes or no to a
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001187franchise because it's given it's a power given by congress and congress normally reviews the money
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001188uh they diligently the committee and franchise uh diligently ask for whatever supporting documents
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001189that they need uh once it's granted then uh as long as they follow what the franchise mandates
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001190them then uh the executive does not have any power to
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001191question that but as a public utility sir um they do have if they are granted a franchise in such a
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001192in the franchise area they do have the responsibility to deliver the public utility
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001193service that they are required to so if that involves uh putting up their own infrastructure
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001194whether it's stated in the franchise or not i think that they should do that sir okay thank
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001195you madam secretary
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001196To my last three concluding questions, Casoreco III, I am sure the NEA administrator is well aware,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001197was an ailing cooperative since within the period 2013 to 2016.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001198That is the reason why NEA intervened by establishing or by creating Task Force Rinconada.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001199Right?
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001200Yeah, 2017.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001201Yeah.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001202Okay.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001203Now, since then, Casoreco III has improved.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001204In fact, from 2021 and for five consecutive years up to the year 2025,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001205Casoreco III had received the highest rating, which is AAA.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001206For the last five consecutive years.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001207And that is because of NEA intervention.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001208That is why we are thankful to NEA, to Task Force Rinconada, because of your intervention from the lowest category.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001209Now, it is AAA.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001210That is the highest category.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001211Mag-intervene po kayo.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001216So, your debt was very high.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001217It was over 1 billion.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-0012181.2 billion.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-0012191.2 billion.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001220But now, it is small.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001221It is only 600.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001222It is small.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001223And every month, it is paying.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001224Oh, sorry, sir.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001225From the 1.2 billion debt since 2013, it is only 120.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001226That is the correct amount.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001227120 million.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001228Can I interject now?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001229I think, even if they have a debt of 1.2 billion, it is only 100 million now.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001230Right.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001231They added three substations to address the brownout in the problem of the place.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001232Yes.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001233Is that correct?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001234Yes.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001235Can we continue?
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001236Sure.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001237My final question.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001238Would you consider it fair to allow the entry of a new, unproven, and untested private distribution company
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001239with a mere $5 million paid-up capital into the existing franchise area of a AAA electric cooperative
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001240performing well under the NEA standards?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001241Mr. Chair, if I may qualify.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001242Yes.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001243Just an opinion.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001244NEA will always defer to the wisdom of Congress whether or not to grant a new franchise
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001245in the future.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001246Mr. Chair, I believe the
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001247level of responsibility of the feels of this organization.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001248Goodbye.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001249Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001250Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001251Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001252Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001253Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001254Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001255Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001256Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001257Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001258Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001259Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001260Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001261Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001262Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001263Definitely, what Casoreco III needs is an infusion of fresh capital to improve the reliability.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001264It is true that the operation of Casoreco III is not that exciting because it comes from poverty.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001265They do not have a sustainable capex to fund.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001266That is why we are doing our best and we are looking for a solution on how to cope with such a situation.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001267Now, the question is, why is the debt so high?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001268Based on our categorization rules, if a cooperative is in debt and it is being restructured and its restructured arrangement is being paid,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001269we consider it as if it has no debt because it is being paid.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001270The same thing is the case of Casoreco III.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001271Yes, with the indulgence of Cong. Nelson Legacion, I was just confused.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001272So, there was a debt of 1.2 billion in 2017.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001273So, in the span of 6 years, 9 years, it became only 100 million.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001274120 million.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001275120 million. So, the improvement is really big.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001276Well, aside from paying the debt, they are maintaining the...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-00127710 plus...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-00127810 plus operations, it is a big deal because we cannot give them a very good service if they come from poverty.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001279Yes, so, it means that they have really improved.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001280Yes, sir.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001281That is why they have been AAA for the last 5 years.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001282Yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001283And if, this is theoretical only, if you are the chairman of the franchise committee, will you grant that electric cooperative, theoretical, if that is the case, to perform, will you grant the franchise?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001284Definitely, sir.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001285Because what effect will it have if you do not grant the franchise after 2029?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001286It will be a pity for the member consumers.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001287Will it have an effect if it will not operate? Will there be no electricity?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001288Well, there is always the risk of a breakdown of the...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001289Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001290So, you are saying if the franchise is not granted, after 2029, no one will operate, there will be no electricity there?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-001291That is what will happen there.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001292That is clear.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001293Thank you, Cong. Nelson.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001294Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001295Thank you very much.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001296Thank you, Cong. Nelson.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001297Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001298Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001299Thank you, Administrator Almeda.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001300Thank you for telling us that you are not giving up on Casa Reko 3.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001301And in fact, if you will have to decide, you will give this to the franchise.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001302Yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001303Thank you very much.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001304And if you decide to run for Congress, I will vote for you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001305We'll make you the franchise committee chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001306Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001307So...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001308It is not a joke, no?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001309Sa amin kasi, like electric cooperatives,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001310in the indulgence of my colleagues,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001311I'm very much supportive sa mga electric co-op
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001312because it is service-oriented.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001313Our area is rural pa po kami.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001314Hindi pa po kami urbanized.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001315So, kailangan pa po namin ng tulong ng gobyerno.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001316There's seat for electrification, etc.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001317Kung maganda naman yung performance,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001318bakit hindi natin tulungan?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001319And actually, it's beyond our district.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001320But due diligence and proper courtesy
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001321sa mga congressman po namin,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001322nakasama,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001323noong lumapit po sa amin ng Casareco 3,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001324Casareco 2, Casareco 1,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001325I told them first,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001326lumapit kayo sa congressman nyo
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001327kasi teritoryon nila yan.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001328Pero kung twice or thrice na kayong hindi pinapansin,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001329I think we need to intervene
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001330because
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001331hindi po dahil sa politika o ano man,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001332it is an electric cooperative
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001333that is service-oriented
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001334na nagbibigay pong servisyo ng kuryente
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001335sa ating pong mga kasama
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001336hindi lang po sa kamarilis
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001337o sa buong Pilipinas.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001338That's why we are very passionate
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001339lalo na pagdating sa electric cooperative.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001340That's why I'm very supportive
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001341sa leadership rin po
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001342ni Admin Aneda.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001343Idol ko po yan.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001344Actually,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001345I'm not sure
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001346kung ano po yan.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001347And alam ko po,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001348hindi mo po bibitawan yan.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001349Sana po,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001350huwag ka lang po matakot
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001351kung kanino man.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001352Dahil alam ko,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001353wala ka namang kinakatakutan
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001354kundi asawa mo lang po.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001355So,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001356congratulations.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001357That's it.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001358Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001359Para maintindihan lang po,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001360hindi po kami nakikialam
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001361but we need to support
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001362mga electric cooperative.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001363Kasama po namin dyan
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001364si Sergio Tagop,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001365Congressman Presley,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001366Congressman,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001367Art, yeah, yeah.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001368Congressman Art Yap
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001369Kailangan po natin tulungan talaga
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001370ang ating mga electric cooperative.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001371Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001372Okay?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001373So,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001374why not?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001375Wala na?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001376Dagdagan mo pa.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001377Balat pa.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001378Hindi ka nakapagsilita last time.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001379I still have,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001380what, five minutes?
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001381Wala na?
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001382Wala na.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001383At any rate,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001384maraming salamat po,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001385Secretary.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001386And, of course,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001387ni,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001388na,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001389I mean,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001390Almeda.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001391Maraming salamat po.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001392And, to what?
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001393Yung uminom usapan po natin,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001394this applies,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001395this is true,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001396not only with respect to
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001397Caso Record 3,
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001398pero ano man na pag-usapan po natin
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001399ay dapat mag-apply din
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001400sa ibang mga electric cooperatives.
Rep. Nelson S. Legacion
asr-001401Maraming salamat po.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001402Before I call on to the next interpeler,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001403just one question lang po,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001404kung Robert,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001405if you'll allow me.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001406Ma'am,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001407pag may mga bago bang nag-apply
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001408for mga franchise na
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001409like others,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001410sabihin natin na
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001411hindi BQL Light and Power,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001412Capitolio Light and Power,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001413parang gano'n.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001414Kailangan, di ba,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001415meron rin kayong titingnan nyo
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001416kung fit ba sila
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001417na magpatakbo ng
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001418ng,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001419I mean,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001420ng distribution utility?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001421Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001422normally,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001423when it goes through
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001424franchise,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001425franchise utility,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001426and then,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001427the committee would ask us
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001428for our opinion
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001429on whether they should get
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001430the franchise or not.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001431I think you know naman
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001432sa EO 3
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001433kung gano'ng kalaki, no?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001434With a paid-up capital
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001435of 5 million,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001436kaya po ba iyon?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001437Patakbohin?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001438In your opinion?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001439Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001440speaking...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001441It's ano po yun?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001442Nani would know better,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001443but for example,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001444our co-op in Iloilo,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001445like one,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001446the asset is 1.5 billion
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001447or something like that.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001448So, 5 million.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0014495 million is quite,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001450ano,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001451very modest.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001452Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001453Dalawang transformer,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001454kulang poste.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001455Thank you, ma'am.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001456Okay, sir.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001457For our next interpilator,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001458next, we have,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001459oh,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001460may idol,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001461our batch,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001462na tinungo,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001463Congressman Robert Nazal.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001464Sir, you recognize?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001465Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001466Magandang hapon po
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001467sa ating napakasipag na
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001468sekretary,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001469Secretary Sharon Garin,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001470and good afternoon,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001471to the DOE family.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001472I will go right
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001473to my questions.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001474Mr. Chair,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001475may I ask the Secretary?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001476Section 21 of
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001477Republic Act No. 7638
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001478already provides
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001479that an amount
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001480representing 20%
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001481of the outstanding balance
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001482of the PD No. 910
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001483Special Fund
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001484shall be disbursed
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001485for expenses necessary
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001486for DOE's powers
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001487and functions.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001488But I checked
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001489the 2025 and 2026
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001490GAAs.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001491The 2025 GAA reflected
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001492P896 million
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001493from the same fund
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001494while the 2026 GAA reflected
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001495P1.3 billion.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001496Neither GAA contained
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001497the express 20% language
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001498that is now proposed
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001499for 2027.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001500So, Madam Secretary,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001501is the purpose
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001502of expressly putting
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001503the 20% authority
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001504in the 2027
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001505Special Provision
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001506to make sure
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001507that the DOE
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001508can access
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001509the earmarked funds
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001510already provided to it
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001511by law?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001512How much is Malampaya?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-00151310 billion?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001514The idea,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001515Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001516the 20%,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001517let's say,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001518if we just base it
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001519on Malampaya,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001520Malampaya could range
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001521from, I think,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001522this year,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001523about 10 billion.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001524Next year,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001525probably triple that
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001526because of the new discovery.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001527So, let's say 10 billion,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-00152820% of that
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001529is 2 billion,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0015302 billion, no?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001531We never reached
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001532the 20 billion,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001533Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001534I'm not,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001535we're not
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001536complaining,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001537but I think
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001538the rationale behind that
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001539is that
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001540we are not
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001541the only recipients
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001542of the 20%.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001543The calculation
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001544includes that
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001545or those
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001546that are given
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001547to our GOCCs
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001548also, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001549But, yes,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001550we would appreciate
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001551the 20%,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001552but we make do,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001553Mr. Chair.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001554Ano po bang
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001555amount
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001556ang ini-expect natin
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001557if we base it
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001558on the 20%?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001559And what specific
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001560programs,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001561projects,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001562and expenses
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001563will DOE fund
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001564from the 20%?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001565There are,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001566we always have,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001567when you submit
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001568the budget
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001569to DBM,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001570normally,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001571there's tier 1
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001572and tier 2.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001573And our tier 1
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001574is normally
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001575the reasonable ones
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001576that are granted,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001577you know?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001578But on the tier 2,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001579we have other projects
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001580that we wish
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001581to present also,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001582but like tulad
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001583ng magpaayos
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001584ng mga,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001585we don't have
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001586any regional offices,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001587actually.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001588We wish to
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001589have green buildings,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001590at least,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001591maayos yung Mindanao
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001592and Visayas namin
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001593kasi there's more work
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001594every year.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001595Our automation,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001596we need to improve
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001597our automation,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001598our program
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001599for the grid
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001600management committee,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001601we wanted to help
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001602with the,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001603you know,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001604with ERC also.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001605Marami pong pwede
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001606pang magawa.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001607And also,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001608the furtherance
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001609of the technology
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001610because there's
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001611a lack of R&D
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001612in the Philippines
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001613as far as energy
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001614is concerned.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001615So,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001616we have many
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001617programs in place
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001618na sinasuggest.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001619The expectation
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001620of that
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001621is if it's
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-00162220 billion
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001623si Malampaya,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001624normally,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001625that would be
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0016264 billion,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001627actually,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001628Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001629We probably
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001630get about
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0016311 billion?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001632Tama ba?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001633I don't know
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001634how much is per year?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001635Mga 1 billion
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001636siguro,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001637Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-00163810% lang
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001639nakukuha na.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001640So, more or less
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-00164110%.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001642So, if ever,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001643just in case
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001644we reach the 20 billion,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001645meron kayong
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001646makukuha ang 4 billion.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001647Yes, in fact,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001648in fact,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001649Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001650our projections
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001651for Malampaya
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001652in 2027,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001653it will likely
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001654reach the collection
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001655of Malampaya alone,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-00165627 billion.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001657And 20%
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001658of that
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001659is,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0016605.4
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001661billion.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001662Thank you for that,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001663Madam Secretary.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001664Mr. Chair,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001665if the language
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001666is intended
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001667to ensure
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001668that DOE
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001669can actually
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001670access funds
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001671already earmarked
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001672to it by law,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001673then I fully
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001674support this provision.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001675Earmarked revenues
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001676po,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001677should not
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001678simply accumulate
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001679in Treasury
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001680when agencies
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001681have eligible
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001682and implementable
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001683programs
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001684for which
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001685Congress
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001686intended the money.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001687If putting this
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001688language in the gaab,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001689will help ensure
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001690that legally earmarked funds
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001691are released for lawful
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001692DOE programs,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001693then I am for it.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001694But DOE should clearly
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001695identify what will be funded
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001696so Congress can ensure
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001697that the money remains
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001698within the purposes
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001699allowed by law.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001700Thank you for that,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001701Madam Secretary.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001702Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001703I appreciate it.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001704Thank you.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001705Mr. Chair,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001706if DOE will now have
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001707better access
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001708to its earmarked funds,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001709assuming po
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001710makuha natin yung
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-0017114 billion,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001712can we use
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001713this opportunity
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001714to finally accelerate
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001715total electrification?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001716As of August 31,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-0017172026 po,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001718exactly how many
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001719sitios and households
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001720in the country
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001721remain without
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001722electricity?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001723And how much
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001724will it cost
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001725to electrify
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001726all of them?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001727Yes,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001728definitely.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001729We have TEP,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001730Total Electrification
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001731Program,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001732under DOE,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001733aside from the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001734NAS budget,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001735which stands
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001736for the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001737total
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001738electrification
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001739of about
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001740500 million.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001741But if that
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001742is increased to
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0017432 billion or so,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001744you,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001745Secretary,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001746can explain
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001747what would the impact
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001748of that?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001749Sige po.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001750Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001751Magandang hapon po
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001752sa inyong lahat.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001753Yung pong
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001754current na
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001755total electrification
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001756program budget
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001757namin ay
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001758500 million
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001759per year.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001760Ang mga bahay po
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001761na wala pang
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001762kuryente ay
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001763more than 2 million
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001764households po
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001765sa kasalukuyan.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001766Yung
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001767sumunod na po namin
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001768kung magkano
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001769yung kailangan
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001770para magawa
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001771lahat yan.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001772100 billion pesos
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001773po dapat.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001774Kaso every year,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001775kunyari ang NEA,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001776dapat nabibigyan siya
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001777ng 10 billion
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001778a year.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001779Ang nabibigay sa kanya
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-0017802 to 3 billion
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001781lang magmula po
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001782nung
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-0017832022.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001784Kaya nga po,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001785nung sana
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-0017862028 total
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001787electrification
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001788na po tayo,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001789sa computation
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001790po namin,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-0017912038 pa po
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001792ang mangyayari
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001793or 2043
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001794hanggat hindi po
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001795itinataas yung allocation
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001796for electrification.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001797So how much
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001798do we need annually
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001799po para matamaan
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001800yung 2028
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001801kung sakali?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001802Dapat po nung
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001803nagkumpisa tayo
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001804nung 2022,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001805dapat 8 to 10 billion
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001806a year po ang binibigay
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001807ng government.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001808But we only get
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001809about 2 to 3 billion
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-001810per year.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001811Eh dapat po talagang
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001812supportahan yung
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001813budget nyo.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001814Hindi dapat binabawasin
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001815i-increase pa
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001816and you should
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001817have access po
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001818to your earmark funds.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001819Salamat po
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001820Mr. Chair.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001821Going to the ERC,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001822Mr. Chair,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001823may I ask
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001824the ERC?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001825Under IPIRA rate,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001826under IPIRA,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001827rates are based
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001828on the recovery
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001829of prudent
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001830and reasonable
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001831economic costs
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001832incurred.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001833My question is
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001834why are consumers
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001835being made
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001836to pay rates
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001837based on projected
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001838or future capital
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001839investments
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001840before those
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001841investments
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001842are actually
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001843completed?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001844Anyone from
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001845DOE?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001847from ERC?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001848Nag-ano ba? Nag-break?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001849As much as I'd like
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001850to answer,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001851I think the best
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001852person to answer
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001853is ERC.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001854Maybe we can move
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001855to the next question
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001856muna and then
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-001857we can come up.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001858Most of my questions
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001859are for ERC,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001860Madam Secretary.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001861Okay,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001862gonna have a few
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001863minutes suspension.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001864Bathroom break
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001865muna tayo.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001867This hearing,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001868this budget hearing
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001869is now resumed.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001870Kong Nasal?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-001871Congressman Nasal?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001872I'll
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001873repeat
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001874my
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001875question
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001876for
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001877the
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001878ERC.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001879Mr. Chair,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001882so,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001883ah,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001884dito pala.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001885Under
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001886IPIRA,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001887rates
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001888are
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001889and reasonable
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001890economic costs
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001891incurred.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001892So,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001893ang question ko po ay
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001894why are consumers
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001895being made
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001896to pay
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001897rates based
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001898on projected
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001899or future capital
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001900investments
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001901before those
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001902investments
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001903are actually completed?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001904Thank you,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001905Mr. Chair.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001906Nasa section 43
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001907rin po ng IPIRA
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001908ng ERC
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001909ay maaaring
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001910gumamit
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001911or mag-adapt
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001912ng other
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001913internationally
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001914accepted
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001915rate setting
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001916performance-based
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001917rate setting
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001918methodologies.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001919At isa nga doon
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001920sa naging
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001921desisyon
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001922nung naunang
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001923komisyon
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001924ay gamitin
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001925itong provisyon
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001926na ito
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001927ng IPIRA
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001928at mag-migrate,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001929mag-shift
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001930ng mga
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001931mga mga
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001932ma- rotate
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001933mas shift
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001934from the
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001935Royal Army
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001936methodology
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001937that was
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001938previously
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001939being employed
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001940under
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001941ERP
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001942and
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001943at the start
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001944of the
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001945IPIRA
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001946implementation
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001947in 2001
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001948Hawk
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001949po
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001950nung-shift
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001951sa performance-based
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001952rake setting
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001953methodology
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001954as allowed
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001958under Section 43 of EPIRA was made possible through the issuance of the RDWR and RTWR.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001959Ano po itong performance-based and how does this consider yung recovery ng just and reasonable cost ng ating mga distribution utilities?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001960Ito pong performance-based regulation ay isang forward-looking na methodology unlike RORB na nakabase sa historical cost or historical test here.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001961Dahil po ito ay forward-looking, ito naman po may mga built-in na mga incentive mechanisms sa ganitong metodolohiya.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001962Bakit po? Ang pag-determine na po ng revenue requirement under performance-based regulation,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001963kapareho rin naman po ang component niyan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001964Tulad nung sa revenue requirement ng RORB.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001965Titingnan po yung kanilang OPEX.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001966Ito po yung mga building blocks.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001967OPEX, return on rate base, return off rate base, at saka yung other taxes.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001968Yung pong pagtatakda ng revenue requirement using forecast.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001969Ito po yung forecast na base doon sa efficient operating expenses,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001970at saka yung rate base niya, yung nakalipas na ng mga na-procure niya na assets,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001971and at the same time, yung mga ipoprocure pa niya through CAPEX during the regulatory period of either 4 years or 5 years in the case of NGCP.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001972For distribution utilities, ang nangyayari po during a rate reset exercise,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001973ay tinitingnan po yung nararapat na OPEX.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001974At saka kung ano yung magiging value na gagamitin para sa regulatory asset base, yung regulated entity.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001975Ito pong regulatory asset base will consist of yung roll forward na assets.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001976Ito po yung nanggaling na yung dati pang mga assets na i-roll forward.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001977Kasama na rin po dito yung mga CAPEX and other assets na na-procure prior to the rate reset.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001978Pagkatapos po noon,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001979ay de-determine na kung ano yung magiging value ng return on rate base at saka return off rate base.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001980Mr. Chair,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001981bakit po mag...
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001982Ilan pong countries ang gumagamit pa nung ganyang sistema?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001983Sa bilang po, wala po akong isaktong datos.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001984Pero po, ang sapagkakalam ko, nung ito po ay inaaral,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001985ang mga ibang jurisdiction na gumagamit nito will include...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001986UK, Australia, New Zealand.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001987So dito nga po talaga nakapattern yung ating PBR.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001988Kailan po ba nagbago yung from RORB?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001989Kasi ang kaya ko po tinatanong, hindi po ba dapat yung utility, lalo na pag private,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001990dapat sila ang nagpo-put up ng capital at saka yung investment bago nila i-recover sa mga consumers?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001991Opo, tama po yan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001992Kaya nga din po, sa ating PBR ngayon,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001993ang kanila pong CAPEX,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001994pag na ito ay napasama doon sa kanilang rate reset na aprobahan,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001995yung pong kanilang return,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001996yung kanilang recovery,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001997hindi po nakabatay doon sa kabuang halaga nung CAPEX na yan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001998Ito pong kanilang ika-CAPEX na,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-001999magpo-procure sila ng linya o ng transformer,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002000yung pong halaga na yun, kung papasok yan doon sa regulatory period na yan in the form of CAPEX,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002001maitatayo yan, ang kikitain lang po noon,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002002hindi po yung makukolekta po as part of the revenue requirement,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002003is not the entire value of that CAPEX,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002004but it will be the value of that asset at yung return yan will depend on the WAC that will be approved
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002005o yung weighted average cost of capital para doon sa return on rate base
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002006at saka yung kaukulang.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002007At yung depreciation na yan, recoverable yan over the life of the asset.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002008Paano kung mangyayari if the project is delayed or hindi nagawa?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002009Meron na po bang sitwasyon na nakasingil based dito sa current na sistema,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002010tapos na-delay o hindi nagawa yung project?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002011Dito po pumapasok yung kahalagahan ng rate reset exercise.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002012After every regulatory period of 4 years or 5 years,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002013pinakailangan on the final year, magkakaroon ng rate reset.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002014Ano po yung purpose ng rate reset na yan?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002015Para magkwentahan, magkakaroon ng kwentas-klaras,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002016ikaw ba utility, nagawa mo ba yung CAPEX mo?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002017E meron lang doon sa iyong taripa, nakasama doon yung return on at saka return off.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002018Kung hindi mo nagawa yan, dito po sa susunod na rate reset,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002019yan po ngayon ipo-flowback.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002020Mangyayari po, meron kang CAPEX na delay ka,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002021o hindi mo nagawa, dito sa susunod na rate reset,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002022ito ay ibabawa sa inyong revenue requirement.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002023Meron ka pang penalty, meron ka pang interest na dapat bayaran doon.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002024Ito lang po ang hindi nangyari dahil sa loob ng mahigit isang dekada,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002025ang ERC noon, hindi nakapag-reset ng taripa ng ating mga private distribution utilities.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002026At ngayong taon lang po natin ito sinasagawa,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002027at nagkaroon na nga po ang pagdedesisyon ng ERC,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002028sa loob ng mahigit isang dekada,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002029una-unahang rate reset sa isang ating private distribution utilities.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002030So, Mr. Chair, marami po tayong nakita na mga ganong sitwasyon
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002031na nasinil na po sa consumers yung CAPEX para doon sa proyekto.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002032Pero hindi po tayo nakapag-rate reset. Tama po ba?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002033Ang nangyari po, dahil nga po,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002034ngayong taon lang talaga nagsimula ulit ang rate reset ng ating mga private distribution utilities,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002035ngayon lang din po natin tinitingnan,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002036dahil in between,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002037nagkaroon din po sila ng mga CAPEX filings.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002038Kasi supposedly, sa rate reset magkakaroon ng approval ng CAPEX program
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002039ng ating regulated entity.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002040Dahil nga po naantala yung rate reset,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002041itong mga distribution utilities na kakailangan ng mag-implement ng CAPEX,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002042nagsipag-file sila ng kanilang mga individual CAPEX filings.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002043At kung na-approbahan at isinagawa nila yung CAPEX project na yan,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002044sila'y gumastos na, pero hindi sila nagkaroon ng rate adjustment.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002045Dahil nga, walang rate reset na nangyari.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002046So ngayong pong taon na ito,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002047dito sa ating rate reset exercise na ginagawa para sa ating mga private distribution utilities,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002048ating itinatama yung lahat ng nangyaring walang aksyon,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002049kawalang aksyon,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002050noong mahigit isang dekada,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002051ngayon po ay itinatama natin.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002052Nagsaganon, ay makasiguro tayo na yung magiging singil ng ating mga distribution utilities
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002053ay nararapat lang sa kanilang kaukalong gastos
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002054at kung alo lamang,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002055yung reasonable.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002056Mr. Chair,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002057Thank you.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002058Sa rate reset po ba?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002059Last answer for the last question.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002060Tumakbo yata yung oras ko kanina, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002061I'll give you another one.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002062Go ahead.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002063Just a short question.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002064Sa rate reset po ba, Mr. Chair,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002065kung nasingil po natin sa consumers yan,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002066doon sa rate reset,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002067ibabalik po ba with interest yan?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002068Ang mangyayari po,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002069dahil po ito ay ipo-flow back,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002070doon po sa revenue requirement na itatakda para sa susunod na
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002071regulatory period,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002072ibabawas na yan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002073So, in effect, ibinabalik na din yan
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002074doon sa susunod na regulatory period po.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002075So, ibabalik din yan sa consumers with interest.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002076Doon sa ating...
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002077Just a short manifestation.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002078So, Mr. Chair,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002079for me, investments are a business risk.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002080Consumers should pay a fair and reasonable
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002081return for investments
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002082actually made and useful to them.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002083But we should seriously examine
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002084why consumers should be financing projects
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002085or financing projected investments in advance.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002086If consumers are paying for these investments,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002087there must be an independent and transparent mechanism
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002088to verify that every peso charged
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002089was actually invested and benefited the consumer.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002090Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002091Thank you. And I totally agree with you,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002092Congressman Nazal. Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002093So, next interpulate is Congressman Leo Rodriguez.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002094Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002095Thank you, Mr. Chair,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002096to the DOE family.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002097May God bless you all.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002098First of all,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002099I would like to thank
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002100the DOE through our
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002101leadership of our Secretary
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002102and Secretary Sharon Garin.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002103Of course, the IRC,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002104and of course, Dania and PNUC
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002105for the quick response
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002106to the problems
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002107faced by the communities
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002108in the past few months.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002109Thank you.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002110So, for now,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002111we have a new problem.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002112Mr. Chair,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002113the current price is still high
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002114for us, especially
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002115for these islands
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002116and off-grid areas
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002117like Catanduanes.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002118For now,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002119the residential rate
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002120for July is
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-00212119.30 kilowatts
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002122compared to
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002123the
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002124current price
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002125here in Metro Manila
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002126which is 14 kilowatts.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002127And even for mainland vehicles,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002128they are still tracing.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002129So, now,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002130the Emergency Power Supply Agreement
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002131or IPSA 2
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002132with Isla Dagyab
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002133while waiting for the
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002134long-term supply
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002135through CSP,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002136my concern is not
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002137to fix the generation cost
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002138and it still depends
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002139on the diesel prices.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002140Demand and actual generation
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002141that's why consumers
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002142are directly affected
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002143by increasing
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002144electricity rates
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002145when fuel prices
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002146go up.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002147So, my only question
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002148to our good Secretary,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002149Mr. Chair,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002150while we are still
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002151in Catanduanes,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002152can we give temporary
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002153subsidy for generation cost
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002154under PSILCO,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002155Isla Dagya IPSA 2
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002156to reduce the
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002157electricity rate
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002158for our consumers?
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002159Because the current
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002160is too high
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002161for our
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002162countrymen there.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002163Instead of eating it,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002164they should eat it
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002165to pay for the current.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002166Can you support this
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002167and help identify
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002168and facilitate
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002169the appropriate funding
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002170and regulatory mechanism
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002171with the concerned agencies?
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002172Mr. Chair?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002173Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002174unfortunately,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002175we cannot commit
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002176to support the subsidy
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002177because we are not allowed
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002178to do that, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002179But on the other hand,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002180I'll pass it to President
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002181the DOE will
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002182do a task force
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002183in the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002184in your province, sir,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002185so that we can assess the performance
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002186of your electric co-op and
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002187assess more on what kind of
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002188because if we only use diesel,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002189if there is a flood,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002190it will not deliver.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002191If the price goes up,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002192of course, there is a direct correlation
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002193on the price of fuel and the price of electricity
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002194in your province.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002195So, we'll work with
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002196NAPOCOR on that.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002197We'll send,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002198we'll have a team of
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002199Mario Maracigan
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002200reassess the island.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002201The main cost
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002202of the increase
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002203of electricity there
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002204is really the oil crisis
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002205in the Middle East.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002206But that's the lesson
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002207that we should not be dependent
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002208on diesel in the end.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002209So, we'll do the long-term solutions, sir,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002210and I think President Coco
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002211can expand.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002212Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002213Because for now,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002214you know, diesel is the only
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002215hope.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002216Because our hydro is not operating
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002217because of the sea,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002218it's really dry.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002219We don't have water.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002220That's our problem.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002221So, we're asking for
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002222a quick solution here
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002223so that we won't suffer
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002224such a high rate.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002225President Coco,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002226you want to answer?
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002227Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you,
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002228Honorable Congressman,
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002229to the Honorable Gentleman from Catanduanes.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002230It's a privilege
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002231of NAPOCOR
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002232to help Catanduanes
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002233in the past few months.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002234And I assure
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002235the people of Catanduanes
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002236that NAPOCOR will open
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002237to helping and assisting
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002238FISELCO
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002239in their upcoming application
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002240for the subsidized rate
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002241so that it won't be
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002242that big.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002243It just needs to go through
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002244the process and NAPOCOR
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002245has already talked to FISELCO
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002246because there are many Catanduanes
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002247who are working at NAPOCOR
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002248and every day,
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002249I'm being scolded by my
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002250managers and senior managers.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002251So, I want to give
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002252the assurance, both personal and professional,
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002253that NAPOCOR is
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002254working closely with FISELCO
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002255so that they can submit
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002256the proper application
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002257because according to the
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002258directives of DOE,
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002259they seem qualified
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002260but they need to go through
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002261the process.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002262Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002263I'm a little happy
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002264with the answer of our
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002265good President of NAPOCOR,
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002266our
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002267former colleague.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002280So tama po ba na kasama na sa Transmission Development Plan ang Kamarinesor Katanduanes Interconnection Project na magkukunikta sa Katanduanes sa Luzon Grid through a Submarine Cable?
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002281Ano po ang inisyal na work na magagawa ng project particularly on the regulatory approval, engineering surveys and right-of-way and other preparatory works?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002282Mr. Chair, yes, that's the best, the long-term solution talaga. Pa-connect na kayo. I'll pass it to Press Jomar of the Transco on the connection of the schedule.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002283Yes, sir.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002284Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, we can confirm that the connection of Katanduanes is now in the TDP of NGCP. We are also looking at it, how we can prioritize that particular project since I think 2018.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002285So, yata ito nire-request ng FISELCO. One update also for FISELCO, Transco will now be implementing system operations in your island and hopefully we can also help in your system reliability and maybe reduce some costs also. So, that's our update for you, Mr. Gong.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002286Great.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002286-split-2Thank you. Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002287Can I interject lang? Ano yung pinakamalapit na pwede mag-submarine cable sa patang Katanduanes?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002288I'll give you the answer.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002289Sir, sir. Caramoan. Distrito ko po yun.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002290In the TDP, I believe it's presentation.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002291Yeah. From Karamuan, malapit na lang po kami doon. Actually, meron pong feasibility study na nakuha na kami na gagawa po ng tulay from Karamuan connecting Katanduanes.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002292And kinausap ko na po yung DPWH, yung ilalim nun. Pwede po tayo maglagay doon ng linya na. So, para hindi na submarine cable, mas mahal po yun.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002293So, yung design na pinapagawa po namin is for the maintenance. It's a long-term plan, no? So, it's one option. I'm just telling you na yung pinakamalapit.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002294We'll take a look at that, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002295Mr. Chair, in addition to the schedule of the TDP, Transmission Development Plan of the NGCP, DOE also has issued a circular allowing third-party,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002296allowing third-party,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002297construction. But we have to work closely with NGCP on this. Transcos already identified three projects that they will embark on with the permission or the agreement to NGCP also with DOE.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002298We'll try as much as possible makuha yung approval for, para ma-advance po, na transco na yung magpapatayo. We'll work hard on that, sir.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002299Dalawang beses na ako bumalik din dahil sa problema dyan.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002300Maybe we can find a long-term solution, sir.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002301Thank you.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002302Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Madam Secretary. Alam ko naman na hindi nyo paubayan ng katanduhan. Sabi nga, pabalik-balik ka na nga roon.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002303Yun talagang problema namin. I hope itong aming tulungan ni Kung Fuente Villa na yung sa aming Princip Bridge na talagang pangarap din naman namin yun magkaroon na may tawid.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002304So, malay mo kung sino lang pumaw na.
Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez
asr-002305Salamat po, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002306Thank you, Mr. Kong Leo.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002307Basta pag nagsalita si Kong Sharon, Kong Lagrales, maniwala po tayo.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002308Pero before I call the next interpreter, kung pwede pong magtanong rin kayo sa PNOC, pwede rin pong magsumagot.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002309So, next interpreter, we have Congressman Presley Dessus.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002310Sinabi mo magtatanong ako, so magtatanong na ako.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002311No, in fairness, no.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002312Two points muna. Una, I'm very grateful, Congressman Dagoque, and I am grateful to Chairman Alvarez and Sen. Erwin Tupo.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002313Finally, nasa Senate na at madidiscuss na September 10 yung Lineman Workers Appreciation Day.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002314So, maganda yan kasi we recognize them.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002315As you know, nauubos na yung mga lineman natin. Nagpupunta namin ng New Zealand at Australia.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002316So, yesterday also, kinausap namin ng TESDA.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002317Para tuloy-tuloy na rin yung kanilang training.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002318Secondly, in fairness to Chairman ng Committee on Legislative Franchise,
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002319basta't meron nagpasa ng mga ganyang prangkisa at may opposition, we give them time.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002320But he promised next time, naprubaan din yan. Just like the other electric cooperatives.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002321Mr. Chair? Mr. Chair?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002322Wala pa akong tanong sa 'yo?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002323I just wanted to intervene, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002324Yes, yes.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002325For us, in the Department of Energy
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002326And I think especially for NEA, we don't need a special day for linemen.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002327Every day is a day for linemen, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002328Because not only do they build our infrastructure, but they are the first to go whenever there's a disaster.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002329Mga volunteers yan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002330They don't have anywhere to sleep.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002331They just follow where the broken poles are.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002332Mga volunteer po yan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002333Pinapakain lang ng mayor.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002334But I think they really need commendation in that sense.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002335Because they are really the heroes of the energy family, sir.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002336Well noted.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002337Thank you, Chairman.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002338And of course, to Secretary.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002339Again, to Secretary, when Kong Percy said a while ago, he asked you personally kung paano baaba ang kuryente.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002340And you said, there's a formula.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002341Siguro, nung 18 Congress kami, yan na inaan namin talaga hindi bumaba ba.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002342Aside from the inflation rate.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002343So, siguro this time, yun nga, yung system loss natin.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002344Tanong ko, is it time ng generation, the gencos, should be regulated na?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002345Although we know in EPIRA, hindi.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002346Pero, it's high time, is it?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002347Mr. Chair, I do not think that we need to regulate.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002348But we need to have safeguards, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002349For example, once you have a COC, you have the permit, you have the permit forever.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002350Regardless of your performance.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002351And that's why we are issuing new policies now to have more accountability for the gencos.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002352Kasi minsan, nakalista yan sa profile natin, sa energy mix natin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002353Pero, mga four months a year lang pala siya nandun.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002354And there has to be accountability.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002355Dapat siya nagahanap ng replacement power.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002356So, there are things that have been missing over the years.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002357And we...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002358We need to be more strict in a sense that they have to comply with whatever is required by EPIRA,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002359whatever is required by ERC, and the PSA or the contract they entered.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002360So, papunta na kami dyan, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002361And I think if we do regulate, we might dislodge the investment appetite in that sense.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002362Pero, kailangan talaga medyo may mga regulator.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002363Sorry, powers tayo.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002364Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002365Of course, when Congressman Jokno asked about this solar para sa bayan,
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002366noong 18th Congress, di pa kami congressman ni Kogdagi.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002367Kami ang nagra-rally na huwag pagbigyan yan.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002368Kasi alam namin mangyayari.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002369Look what happened to Occidental Mindoro.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002370Kawain lang nilagay nilang poste.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002371So, when you said, you know, balitan-balitan, 24 billion nilang ano.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002372I think hindi yun ang problem.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002373Ang problema dun, did they deliver what is stated in their service contract na magdi-deliver siya ng supply?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002374You're correct, Mr. Chair, in a sense that because of, how many megawatts yun?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002375These are about 33 contracts.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002376Most of it under GAYA.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002377And had those, it's about 1.3 gigawatts.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002378Had those 1.3 gigawatts been delivered,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002379according to our simulation, there would have been a decrease in the price, about 2 pesos ba?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0023801 peso.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0023811 peso at the very least on the generation rate natin, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002382So, that's, it's not the penalty itself, but it's the cost to our consumers na nangyari.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002383See, that's the problem, Chairman, because you gave the service contract.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002384So, walang pwedeng umago dun until such time na mag-deliver sila ng ano.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002385So, do you see?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002386In the foreseeable future, magkakaroon kayo ng cancellation of service contracts na hindi pa na-umpisan?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002387Mr. Chair, all the contracts we are being reviewed, we're cleaning it up.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002388We have cancelled so far about 100 plus, 200 contracts already.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002389That's for the service contracts on renewable energy.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002390Yung hindi gumagalaw, yung wall, late na siya, or wala siyang, ano tawag dito?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002391Hindi siya may-aral.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002392Hindi siya may-aral ng lote.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002393Wala siyang tenorial, ano?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002394Posesory, right.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002395So, we're cancelling, starting to cancel that.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002396And then, on the, and then next is we issue the GENCO accountability na kailangan may warning naman.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002397Pag hindi ka mag-comply ng requirements ng DOE or ERC, strike 1 ka.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002398Next strike, up to strike 3 ka, we can cancel the COE or blacklist you.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002399So, we are trying to have more discipline.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002400In the generation companies, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002401Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002402So, maybe in the second round.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002403Sa ERC, kay Commissioner, no?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002404As you know, balitang-balita sa besides, you mentioned it's also a while ago na yellow-red alert na naman tayo.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002405So, what happened sa mga plantang sarado doon?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002406And how many of them?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002407Yan siya.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002408Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002409If our director for...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002410Ano?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002411ERC?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002412Ang mga naka-outage po sa Visayas lalo na would include the Therma Visayas at yung PEDC.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002413But, nag-announce naman ang TVI na it will be resuming operations September 15 at yung Unit 2 na-restore noong August 31.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002414So, bukod dito, may mga naka-outage pa ring mga ibang maliliit na planta and tuloy-tuloy.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002415And we will check on the status po of these plants.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002416Alam mo kung ilang planta and how many megawatts na hindi sila nakapag-deliver?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002417A big thing.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002418Let me see.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002419Yung each unit of TVI is 176.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002420So, dalawa sila.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002421Kaya, nung ngayong naka-outage sila, medyo malaki talaga yung nawawala sa available supplies sa Visayas lalo na.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002422That's why we are seeing the yellow...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002423red alerts in the region.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002424Alam mo, dito tayo naintindihan natin line rental eh.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002425Can you explain yung layman's term?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002426You suspended August 16 yung line rental, di ba?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002427Yes po, Mr. Chair.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002428During periods where the interconnection is congested, Visayas and Mindanao,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002429dahil doon natin nakikita nagkakaroon ng spike sa line rental,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002430we asked IMOP to suspend the calculation and collection of the line rental
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002431and then just collect the necessary amounts from the customers
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002432para mabayaran yung mga generators.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002433But as a long-term solution, there is something to be done doon sa data
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002434that will be inputted in the CRSS so that the correct allocation of NSS surplus
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002435to the customers will be done.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002436And we also ask IMOP to recalculate, to cost the audit through a third party
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002437of the payments or the NSS allocations made over the period from 2021
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002438so that we can determine if there will be a need to order some refunds
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002439in favor of...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002440some distribution utilities who should have received a higher percentage
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-002441or higher allocation of the NSS.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002442Thank you.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002443I'll just come back with you.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002444Again, to Secretary, you know the ER-194 natin, di ba?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002445You know how much you have right now?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002446Kung kano?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002447It's one centavo per...
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002448I know.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002449How much in total?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002450In totality?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002451Nangyayari kasi, Chair, it's directly remitted.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002452Pwede.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002453So hindi na kami humahawak ng pera.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002454We just issued a...
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002455Wala sa inyo yung...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002456Wala sa amin yung pera.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002457Kansi kanina, pupunta nga inyo.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002458Nag-i-diretso sa...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002459Host communities.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002460Host communities, yes.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002461So, but before the pandemic,
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002462I think sa policy nyo, si kayo pa rin na tumatanggap.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002463Because the host community, meron din silang percentage
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002464and then binibigyan sila.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002465So I think it's under DOE pa rin yung pera.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002467I'll have Yusek Mario answer this, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002468Yusek Mario.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002469Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002470Thank you very much also to our beloved congressman.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002471We do audit the releases
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002472because these are directly remitted
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002473benefits to host communities.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002474And based on the...
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002475Based on the audit and monitoring records of our auditing unit,
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002476as of June 20, 2026,
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002478we have remitted for Northern Luzon
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-0024791.8 billion.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002480That's the total.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002481total, with electrification at 762 million, development fund at 524 million, and watershed
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002482rural health at 526 million.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002483For the national capital region, we have 8 million total benefits, with electrification
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002484at 4.5 million, 2 million for DLF, and for water management at almost 2 million.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002485So we have the record here based only on audits.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002486So these are post-remittance.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002487Can you submit that to this committee, please?
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002488Yes, we will, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002489Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002490Yes, we will, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002491Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002492Tama yan kasi importante ito eh.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002493Dapat talaga nakikinabang dito yung rural areas.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002494So, [unclear] pala kayo sa NCR?
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002499Yes, our new guidelines on the benefits for host communities includes urban cities. So, it's not only NCR but also those that are urbanized cities.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002500Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002501Balik na lang ako.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002502And then to, of course, sa TransCo, no?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002503Kay Atty. Mr. President, yung right of way natin, ilan pa bang hindi n'yo hanggang ngayon pending pa rin na hindi n'yo nababayaran?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002504Kasi moving forward, since NGCP sila na ang magbabayad, 'di ba?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002505Yung sa inyo pang pending, ilan pa 'yun?
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002506Roughly around 160,000 claims pa po 'yun.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002507160,000 claims?
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002508Yes.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002509Tapos kapag may naniningil, si PSALM, [unclear] kayong pera, 'di ba?
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002510Most of our concession fees go to the payment of this right of way.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002511So, how come hanggang ngayon hindi na-resolve yung kaso niyan? Napakarami.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002512Opo. Well, different reasons. Difficulty of settling the claims.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002513Marami po, siyempre, mas gusto mas mataas ang compensation.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002514And then, of course, the process in court.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002515However, we have a program now that we will begin.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002516I-outsource po namin nationwide yung ROW settlement.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002517We have a target to clean out all of these claims
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002518by 2034 before the concession agreement with the NGCP ends.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002519So, we begin with a 50,000-claim target in two years po
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002520with this nationwide outsourcing of ROW settlement.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002521So, it came to my attention also, right?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002522yung iba, yung dinaanan ng linya, actually hindi naman daw siya nagke-claim.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002523Parang may lumalapit na taga-loob,
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002524sinasabi na mag-claim kayo kasi nadaanan ng transmission line.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002525So, have you encountered this?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002526May mga ilan po?
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002527Yes, we've received some complaints, but we're already handling that.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002528Kaya nga po nagkaroon po ng reporma with our processes.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002529We will now do only court processes.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002530Wala na po 'yung negotiated or out-of-court so that we can avoid these possible abuses.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002531Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, [unclear].
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002532So, the 160,000 claimants, so in the next two years, it will go down?
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002533We plan to reduce it easily by 50,000 with this outsourcing program po.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002534So, hire a lot of lawyers, real estate brokers nationwide so that we can validate and settle these claims and, of course, file the necessary court cases.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002535Those 160,000 claimants, how much in totality when it comes to pesos?
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002536Yun pong nga 'yan, there's a new program din po. We will not pay for unregistered land kasi public land na po 'yun.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002537So, there's a total of 220 billion po yung cost na 'yan.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002538So, kailangan pa ng 220 billion?
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002539Yes.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002540Yes.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002541To pay all those claimants.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002542Well, of course, that's an estimate.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002543That's according to a 2016 zonal valuation po.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002544Yeah, 2026 na 'yun.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002545So, sige, sigurado tataas ako.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002546And I don't think PISAM has that much money.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002547Wala na kayo, no?
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002548No.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002549PSALM?
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002550Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002551Kindly wind up.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002552So, sige lang.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002553Ay, hindi, hindi, hindi.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002554Tumatakbo.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002555Ikaw pa.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002556Gusto mo.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002557Second round, third round, fourth round.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002558Fifth round.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002559Twenty-seven.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-002560So, Mr. Chair, correct.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-002561Our funding sources is, if not borrowings, is also from our direct revenue, sir.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-002562And part of our responsibility is to fund the transmission requirements of Transco.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002563So, how many more pending na owned by Gencos na pag-aari ng gobyerno natin?
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-002564For PSALM, sir, we have three more assets: Agus Pulangi, Mindanao Coal, and the
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-002565Bakun Hydro Power Plant.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002566Sige,
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002567most of the time, talagang binibenta n'yo,
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002568including Agus Pulangi,
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002569[unclear] n'yo o sineparate n'yo rin sila?
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-002570Agus Pulangi is not for sale, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002571Okay,
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002572thank you.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002573Of course, to my friend,
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002574sabi mo nga,
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002575pag tinanong ko si Coco, laging sagot na ito, laging totoo eh.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002576Sa UCME, how many nag-apply sa inyo ng mga pending co-ops para sa kanilang subsidy?
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002577Mr. Chair, Honorable De Jesus, wala po kaming pending applications. Meron, they're all applied na po.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002578So they're applied, pero lahat sila napagbigyan n'yo o hindi?
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002598Nabibigyan po namin yung mga UCME allocations as far as the funds collected can accommodate. Para po ma-isagot ko ng tama, yung wala pong increase ng UCME rate since last year.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002599So ibig sabihin po, lumaki po yung cost to generate electricity at paglaki ng cost to generate electricity, mas kakaunti yung kayang mabayaran ng cash na nakokolek para sa UCME.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002600So kung dati-dati, kung dalawang buwan yung revolving fund, ngayon kailangan anim na buwan na yung revolving fund para continuous po yung operation.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002601Ito po ay dulot sa panawagan na hindi natin bigla-biglain ang pag-pass on ng mga ito.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002602So in short, yung budget mo last year and
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-0026032026-2027, almost the same?
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002604Sa UCME po, yung nako-collect po sa grid consumers ay pareho lang po.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-002605Pero pagdating sa budget ng NAPOCOR itself, which is not part of the UCME naman, so meron pong konting increase.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002606You have three seconds, so last question, sir.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002607Kay Chikuy sana, kaso three seconds lang.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002608Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002609May natira ko at least may natira akong three seconds.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002610Akong kay Chikuy? I will allow it.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002611Ayun, then I'll give you a job.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002612Go ahead.
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus
asr-002613Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002614Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002615Next to interpelate, Congressman Mark Cojuangco.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002616Sir, you have the floor.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002617Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002618My question is for the DOE regarding all the solar projects.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002619Yes.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002620Dung po sa distrito ko, sa bayan ng Bugalyon,
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002621at Aguilar, matindi po ang kalawakan ng solar projects po doon.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002622Ginawa po yan sa hillsides at itong matinding pagdating ng tagulan,
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002623ang lahat ng putik po ay bumaba sa mga bundok at nagbara sa mga creeks at rivers ng bayan.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002624Unprecedented.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002625Pwede ba po ang pagbabaha ng poblasyon ng Bugalyon?
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002626Pwede ba pong malaman kung ang DOE o ang DNR ang magahanap po ng solusyon sa problema nito?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002627Mr. Chair, I'll pass on the mic to Yusef Guevara on the process, but we will have our Bureau
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002628of the Renewable Energy Management.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002629he will have our Bureau of the Environment Bureau to check on this.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002630It's beyond the...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002631It's beyond the mandate of DOE, but we can, if there's any violation, we can reprimand
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002632or take action on the GENCO itself under permit.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002633Yusef Guevara, please.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002634Kasi po, Mr. Chairman, ang DOE ang nagtulak nito, itong mga project na to.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002635They're the ones who imposed the DOE.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002636At sila po ang nagsasabi na...
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002637They're the ones who are saying you should not do this.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002638They're the ones who are saying you should not do this.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002639Dapat mag-50% solar and wind ang ating generating capacity by next year.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002640So, sa palagay ko po, may konti silang pananagutan sa mga problema ang idinudulot po nito.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002641So, ulitin ko po, paano po ang LGU?
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002642So, tignan niyo po, i-check niyo po sa BSWD, record po ang pagbigay ng relief ngayon sa bayan ng Bugalyon.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002643Yusek Guevara, please.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002644Mr. Chair, magandang hapon po.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002645Yung pong binanggit ninyo na pagbaha po sa inyong lugar,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002646at titingnan po namin yung mga hydrological studies.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002647Kasi po, bago magtayo ng planta,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002648itong mga solar plants and any other kind of plants,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002649iba't-ibang klaseng studies po ang ginagawa nila.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002650Sa kaso po na binanggit ninyo,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002651kailangan ma-tingnan yung hydrological studies.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002652Malaman kung dahil sa pagtatayo nila ng mga solar power plant na yan,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002653ina-divert ba yung tubig at nag-cost po ng baha.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002654Gagawin po namin niya ang pagtatanong na yan dun sa mismong power supply generator po.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002655When can you commit to do that, ma'am?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002656Pagkatanong po namin kaagad sila.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002657Next week po tatanungin na namin and then we will report back to you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002658Thank you very much.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002659Hindi po nasasagot ang aking katanungan.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002660Sino po ang sasagot sa lahat po ng remedial works na kailangan
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002661sa pagtanggal ng putik ng mga ilog at mga creek na nagbarana sa bayan ng Bugalyon?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002662Mr. Chair, iticheck po natin kung ang generator or ang developer,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002663ang may kasalanan, siya po dapat ang sumagot.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002664At i-co-coordinate po namin ito dun sa local government unit po.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002665And I think DPWH, ma'am.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002666And DPWH, of course.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002667Thank you.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002668Mr. Chairman, punta po tayo sa issue ng TransCo at NGCP.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002669Itong chairman po ay ng Nuclear Energy Committee ay gustong malaman kung alo ba po
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002670ang naging issue between TransCo and NGCP.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002671Hila iyong karapatan ng NGCP ay unilaterally diniside ng sekretary ng DOE na bawiin.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002672Ano ba po ang totoong storya nito?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002673Before you answer TransCo, no?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002674I'd like to inform lang kung markuhan ko na only TransCo is here.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002675Wala po yung NGCP dito.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002676Sir?
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002677Mr. Chair, ano pong particular right na was taken away from NGCP?
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002678Tinatanong ko po sa inyo. Ano ba po iyon?
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002679To our knowledge, Mr. Chair, we continue to respect the concession agreement.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002680Wala po kaming tinatanggal o binabawi among the obligations and rights of NGCP.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002681If you are referring to an arbitral case, that was decided po noong February 2025.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002682At nakumpirma naman po ang mga posisyon ng NGCP in that arbitration case.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002683And some matters also confirms the position of TransCo and the government.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-002684So, we are implementing that arbitral ruling kasi napagdesisyonan naman po yun ng arbitration court.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002685Mr. Chairman, this representation would like to request that,
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002686DOE and TransCo write an explanation to the committee.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002687Copy-furnish this representation on these matters.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002688Yes, Madam Secretary.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002689Yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002690You are directed to…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002691Yes, we will comply.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002692Thank you.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002693Mr. Chairman, last point.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002694Alam niyo hindi ko po maintindihan kung bakit…
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002695Itinatago ng DOE ang risulta ng feasibility study na ginawa ng KHNP regarding the PNPP Unit 1 Nuclear Power Plant.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002696Matagal na po hinihingi nitong representation.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002697In fact, ako po ang nag-instigate nito.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002698Three years ago.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002699Three years ago.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002700With KHMP.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002701Bakit ayaw po bigyan ang Committee of Nuclear Energy ng kopya ng feasibility study
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002702when it is a key information piece regarding legislation being crafted at the moment.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002703House Bill 08567.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002704It needs the information to make intelligent policy decisions regarding the disposition of PNPP 1 and subsequent nuclear power plants in the country.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002705Noong last committee meeting po namin sa
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002710Committee on Nuclear Energy, may nag-motion po na mag-issue ang committee ng subpoena
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002711demanding the production by the DOE of said feasibility study.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002712The House was divided. The vote to have a subpoena prevailed.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002713I have here a copy of a fully signed up to the Secretary General of a subpoena.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002714However, since...
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002715there have been parties at DOE who have promised to produce these studies,
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002716the Speaker has decided to intervene in the interest of preserving cooperation between the Legislature and the Executive.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002717So he has ordered the Secretary General and the Sergeant-at-Arms to not serve.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002718I am submitting a copy of this subpoena to the committee, to you, Mr. Chairman,
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002719so that you know that this in fact happened.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002720We would like to receive a copy of the feasibility study at the soonest possible time.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002721Not from Korea.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002722The copy from the DOE, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002723Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002724Last question. Kindly answer, Mr. Guevara.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002725Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002726Mr. Chair, the hard copy is the only kind of copy that is issued by KHNP,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002727and it is controlled on who is the recipient of the copy.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002728The hard copy that will be submitted to the committee will arrive by Friday or Monday,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002729and we will submit to the committee right away.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002730So wala pa po sa inyo?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002731Wala pa po sa amin eh.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002732So on the way na po.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002733Sa inyo, Friday.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002752Can you submit to this committee?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002753Yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002754Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002755So this Friday?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-002756Friday or Monday po ang dating?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002757O, ganyan mo.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002758Monday.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002759Mr. Chairman,
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002760Mr. Chairman,
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002761mukhang may confusion po, no?
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002762May kopya sila ngayon.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002763Kopya nila ng DOE.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002764Bakit ayaw kaming bigyan ng kopya ng DOE?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002765Can you clarify that?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002766Do you have a copy?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002767This is a copy or certified through copy na?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002768Kasi it's hard rin na,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002769I understand, ma'am.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002770It's hard na magbigay
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002771na hindi pa rin certified through copy.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002772Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002773it's part of the agreement with KHNP.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002774Sila yung nagbibigay ng hard copy.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002775We're constrained with that.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002776No, but,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002777by,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002778there's an MDE on our part.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002779The commitment is
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002780to submit to this committee by?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002781By Monday, sir,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002782because we have already requested
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002783a request by the...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002784Yes, that's acceptable.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002785Yes, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002786Yes.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002787It's on its way already.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002788Okay.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002789Thank you.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002790Thank you.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002791Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002792I object strongly
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002793because
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002794why should we open ourselves
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002795to the possibility
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002796that Korea will send us
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002797a different copy?
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002798Why can't this
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002799chairman
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002800and this
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002801nuclear energy committee
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002802get a copy
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002803of exactly
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002804what is with DOE?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002805They have committed already
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002806that they will
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002807submit the copy
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002808of what you have requested.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002809They have committed, sir,
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002810that they will submit
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002811a copy that is still
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002812arriving from Korea.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002813That is unacceptable.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002814Yes, but they will submit it
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002815once they get it by Monday.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002816That's a few days,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002817Congressman Marco Anco.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002818I think we just have to be
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002819a little bit patient.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002820Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002821Suspended.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002845Do you have a copy?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002846Yes or no?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002847Yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002848Why can't you submit that copy?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002849It's part of the agreement,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002850Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002851Part of the agreement?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002852Yes, sir.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002853What is the part?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002854We cannot photocopy
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002855or transmit it anywhere else.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002856They have to...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002857Or else,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002858you will be violating
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002859the agreement.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002860We have to remember
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002861that the feasibility study
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002862was done as a grant
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002863by KHNP.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002864Okay.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002865Wala tayong gastos diyan, sir.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-002866Yes, and it's a few days.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002867Today is
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002868the
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002869Wednesday,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002870Thursday,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002871Friday,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002872Boss,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002873we will do it on Monday.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002874What assurance
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002875does the chairman have
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002876that the copy
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002877will be identical
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002878to the copy
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002879being held
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002880by the DOE
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002881at this time?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002882Yes, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002883We can review
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002884what they sent
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002885and then compare it
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002886with what we have.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002887Yes.
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002888So you will certify it,
Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco
asr-002889Mr. Chairman?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-002890Yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002891Thank you very much.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002892Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002893Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002894Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002895Thank you, Congressman Mike.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002896At least that's clear.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002897Thank you for that concern.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002898Thank you, Boss.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002899Ikaw pa, Boss.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002900Next,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002901thank you, Mr. Pilip.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002902We have a congressman
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002903from the minority,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002904Congresswoman Reneko.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002905Are you around?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002906Since wala.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002907Next is
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002908Congressman Sergio Dago
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002909from the minority.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002910You have the floor.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002911Thank you, Chair.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002912Yes, sir.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002913Mga maiksi na tong ano ko.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-002914Ay, wag.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002915First of all,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002916magandang hapon po
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002917sa
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002918Energy family.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002919Hindi ko na isa-isahin.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002920Mahubos yung
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002921five minutes ko.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002922Kanina,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002923Mr. Chair,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002924may kasamaan ako
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002925nagtanong
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002926regarding doon sa
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002927NEA Memo
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-0029282014-
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002929003.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002930Alam ko po
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002931yung MIMO na yun
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002932na nag-interview
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002933ng NIA
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002934doon sa mga
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002935collective bargaining
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002936agreements
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002937of some
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002938electric cooperatives.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002939Pwede po bang
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002940ipaliwanag ng
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002941NEA
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002942bakit po kayo
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002943nag-intervene
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002944doon sa mga
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002945CBA na yun?
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-002946Sir?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002947Mr. Chair?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002948In response to
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002949Cong. Dagooc's
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002950query,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002951we found
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002952several
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002953several
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002954exorbitant
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002955demands
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002956of
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002957labor unions
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002958that will be
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002959violative
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002960of
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002961the
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002962, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002963cash operating
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002964budget structure
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002965or the working capital
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002966requirement of
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002967the, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002968electric cooperatives.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002969To name a few,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002970ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002971the type of
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002972exorbitant, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002973demands,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002974there are unions
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002975who are demanding
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002976a
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002977grocery allowance
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002978of up to
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-0029796,000 pesos
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002980a month.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002981And, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002982obviously,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002983the electric cooperative
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002984cannot afford
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002985to give that.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002986Ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002987another would be
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002988a laundry allowance
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002989of 500 to 600 pesos
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002990a month.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002991I mean,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002992imagine laundry allowance,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002993ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002994obviously,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002995hindi rin ho
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002996kayang ibigay
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002997ng mga electric
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002998cooperative yan.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-002999Meron pa hong
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003000water allowance
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003001na hindi ko na ho
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003002babanggatin
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003003kung sino ang mga
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003004cooperative ito.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003005At ito ang may
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003006medyo matindi.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003007Ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003008humihingi rin ho
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003009sila ng utility
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003010allowance, no?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003011Ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003012some,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003013discount
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003014on the, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003015consumption nila
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003016ng electricity
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003017na ang sinasabi nila
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003018dahil taga
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003019co-op sila,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003020pwede bang
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003021ibawas yung
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003022DSM
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003023doon sa kanilang
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003024electric bill.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003025So,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003026yung mga bagay na po
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003027na yan,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003028eh,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003029kung bibigyan ho
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003030namin ng pahintulot,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003031eh,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003032makaka-apekto ho
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003033sa very existence
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003034ng cooperative.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003035As in fact,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003036meron nga ho
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003037isang cooperative,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003038I mean,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003039I'll make,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003040ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003041case in point,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003042yung Tarelco 1 po
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003043na nakalusot
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003044nung mga
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003045past administration
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003046na humihingi ho
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003047ng mga exorbitant,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003048ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003049demands.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003050Ngayon ho,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003051ay nag-file na
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003052sa Supreme Court
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003053ang, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003054Tarelco 1
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003055na kung sakasakaling
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003056hindi ho may re-reverse
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003057ang desisyon
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003058ng Court of Appeals,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003059it will surely
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003060fold up,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003061Mr. Chair.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003062Ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003063thank you,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003064Mr. Chair.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003065Ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003066ang ginagawa po ba
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003067ng
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003068NEA,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003069Mr. Chair,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003070ay,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003071ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003072ginagampanan lang niya
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003073ang kanyang trabaho
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003074alinsunod sa,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003075ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003076mga umeeral na batas
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003077kagaya ng
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003078PD 269
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003079at R18531
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003080para
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003081mapangalagaan
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003082ang mga
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003083member consumer
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003084owners?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003085Tamo po yun,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003086Mr. Chair.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003087Ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003088Honorable Dagoog,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003089ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003090ginagawa lang po
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003091ng NEA
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003092ang kanyang
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003093mandato
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003094na pangalagaan
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003095ang, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003096kaperahan
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003097na,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003098ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003099ng, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003100kooperatiba.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003101Pero hindi ho kami
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003102tumitigil doon.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003103Hindi ho namin, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003104ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003105ibinabato ang kasalanan
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003106sa mga
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003107labor,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003108labor unions.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003109Kaya nga po,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003110ngayon,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003111ay nakikipag-ugnayan kami
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003112sa
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003113Department of Labor
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003114and Employment.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003115Ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003116nagsisagawa ho kami
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003117ng mga
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003118training,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003119ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003120paano ho
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003121makapag-negotiate
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003122ng maayos
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003123ang mga
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003124labor union
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003125at ang management
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003126and, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003127tingin ko naman po,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003128ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003129it's all,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003130it will all
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003131boil down na
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003132ang aming moto
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003133pag may training
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003134is what you cannot
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003135give,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003136I mean,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003137what you cannot
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003138give,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003139what you don't have,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003140no?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003141So,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003142ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003143nakakausap ko naman po
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003144yung mga labor union
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003145officials
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003146at, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003147sila naman po
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003148ay supportive
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003149sa ginagawa
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003150ng NEA
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003151at, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003152hanga din po nila
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003153na maging maayos
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003154ang negosasyon
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003155ng CBA.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003156Ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003157thank you,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003158Admin.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003159Ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003160for the information
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003161of Admin Nani,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003162no,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003163ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003164isa lang po
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003165ang dinulog ko
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003166kahapon sa
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003167consultation
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003168with DOLE.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003169Ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003170kinausap ko lang po
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003171si sekretary
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003172na kung pupwede
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003173magkaroon na
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003174ng template
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003175ng CBA
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003176na,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003177ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003178ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003179gagawan ni,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003180ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003181COOP,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003182DOLE,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003183at saka NEA
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003184pagtulong-tulungan.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003185Yung template na yan
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003186para uniform
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003187na lahat.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003188Wala na yung mga
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003189grocery allowance
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003190na yun.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003191Ayun po
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003192ang ginagawa namin
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003193ngayon
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003194in cooperation
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003195with DOLE,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003196Mr. Chair.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003197Ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003198bumubuo po kami
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003199ng Tripartite Council
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003200at ima-manualize
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003201na po namin
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003202ang, ah,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003203negotiations
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003204ng CBA.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003205Thank you, Admin.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003206Ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003207thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003208Ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003209noon po sa
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003210ER 1-94,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003211ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003212mayroon po tayong,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003213ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003214problema sa
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003215removal
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003216or pagpapababa
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003217ng
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003218non-technical
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003219at removal
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003220ng,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003221ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003222pagpapababa
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003223ng technical
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003224removal
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003225ng,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003226ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003227ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003228non-technical.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003229Pwede po bang
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003230maguhin natin
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003231yung, ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003232pa,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003233pamamaraan
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003234sa paggamit
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003235ng ER
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-0032361-94
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003237na itututok
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003238natin
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003239sa systems
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003240loss reduction?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003241Ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003242Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003243ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003244we have
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003245issued
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003246a new,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003247new rules.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003248I think mga
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003249this year lang yan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003250Ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003251which will allow
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003252also,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003253ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003254actually,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003255ni-reformat namin
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003256na imbis na
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003257one centavo
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003258rin siya.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003259Magiging
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003260three centavos
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003261na siya.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003262And then,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003263um,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003264give it to the,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003265the community
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003266to decide
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003267kung siyan siya
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003268gagamitin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003269And,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003270if they wanted
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003271a subsidy
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003272to the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003273consumers,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003274they can do that also.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003275If they wanted
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003276to help
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003277the co-ops
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003278on the infrastructure,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003279they can also do that,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003280sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003281Ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003282what we have tried
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003283to do is just
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003284to simplify.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003285Kasi dati kasi
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003286ang dami requirement.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003287May mga business plan
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003288pa rin hinihingi,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003289mga ganun.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003290So,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003291actually,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003292it's allowed
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003293with the new rules
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003294that we have.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003295We just need to,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003296to broadcast
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003297that more,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003298ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003299Mr. Chair.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003300Ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003301ang,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003302ang minumungkahi ko po,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003303ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003304Mr. Chair,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003305ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003306Madam Secretary,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003307ay,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003308huwag na nating
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003309bigyan ng option.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003310Ay,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003311i-ano na lang natin.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003312Anyway,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003313para naman
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003314sa kapakanan
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003315ng lahat niyan.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003316Kasi kung ibigay mo
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003317na parang
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003318subsidy sa kanila,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003319ay hindi naman
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003320kakayanin
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003321na i-subsidize
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003322maybe one month.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003323Pero kung
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003324systems loss reduction,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003325noong term po
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003326na mababawasan
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003327yung losses nila,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003328bababa po yung singil
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003329sa,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003330sa franchise
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003331ng electric co-op na yan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003332Yes, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003333We'll,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003334we'll propose
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003335and we'll do
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003336the public consultation
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003337kung,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003338kumusta po.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003339Ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003340we cannot,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003341ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003342we'll,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003343we'll,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003344we'll draft something
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003345that maybe that,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003346ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003347if it's acceptable
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003348to our,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003349ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003350stakeholders,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003351Mr. Chair.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003352Ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003353importante po yan,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003354Madam Secretary,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003355kasi isa sa mga
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003356technical losses na,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003357ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003358ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003359nagpataas ng technical losses.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003360Yung maabang
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003361underbelt.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003362So,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003363kailangan natin
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003364ng transformer
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003365para iiksian natin
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003366yung underbelt,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003367yung secondary line,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003368para hindi magkaroon
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003369ng voltage drop
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003370yung dolo.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003371So,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003372kung magawa natin yan
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003373doon sa mga community
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003374where that
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003375ER-194
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003376ay ginagamit,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003377lahat po makinabang,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003378hindi lang iilan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003379Thank you,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003380Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003381We'll,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003382we'll,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003383we'll try to propose,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003384ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003385ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003386revisions in the circular
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003387and,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003388ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003389ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003390consult the stakeholder.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003391Thank you,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003392Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003393Thank you.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003394Thank you,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003395ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003396Madam Secretary.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003397Sa PISAM,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003398just for the record,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003399although nag-usap na kami
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003400kanina ni,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003401ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003402President Diniz,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003403ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003404ang,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003405ang,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003406Agus Anpulang
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003407issue,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003408ay,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003409for the record lang,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003410we with the Mindanao,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003411ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003412stakeholders,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003413no,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003414particularly electric cooperatives,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003415we'll be inviting,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003416ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003417President Diniz
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003418just to discuss
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003419the,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003420ah,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003421ongoing activity
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003422for Agusan-Pulangi
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003423because the
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003424electric cooperatives and
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003425most of the legislators of Mindanao
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003426are alarmed. Kasi alam naman namin
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003427lahat na ang nagpababa
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003428lang sa Mindanao ay Agusan-Pulangi.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003429So, just for the record lang yan,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003430no need for President Nisto
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003431nag-usap na kami.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003432Ano,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003433for
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003434other issues sa PISAM,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003435medyo mababa
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003436this is PISAM
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003437and ERC, Mr. Chair,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003438medyo
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003439mahaba po yung
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003440panahon ng pag-repan sa
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003441lifeline natin. So, in effect,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003442nagkaroon po ng
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003443working capital
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003444problem yung ibang mga electric
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003445cooperatives. So, papano po natin
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003446mapa-exit doon sa mga co-op
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003447na kumpleto na yung
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003448submission? Kasi this is in millions
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003449of pesos na
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003450lifeline.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003451Mr. Chair,
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003452Mr. Chair,
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003453Mr. Chair,
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003454Kong Surge, per my
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003455statistics, sir, in the PISAM office, sir,
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003456per
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003457ERC resolution,
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003458sir, the minimum processing time is
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-0034593 days and the maximum processing
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003460time for lifeline
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003461subsidy is 15 days.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003462Our current processing
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003463time on average, Kong Surge,
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003464Mr. Chair, is about 10.7 days.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003465I think we are within that
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003466parameters of the lifeline
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003467subsidy and we have provided
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003468already our comments to a
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003469Philreca letter that we have received
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003470two weeks ago, complete with the statistics
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003471Mr. Chair, Kong Surge.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-003472Thank you.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003473Salamat po kung ganoon, Mr. Chairman, pero
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003474in the case of Siargao, hindi po ganoon
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003475ka-exit.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003476Sinwerte lang ako dahil maaba pa yung
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003477PC ko. So, pero doon
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003478sa mga electric cooperative na
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003479medyo
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003480isang kahig, isang tuka,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003481ay magkaroon po silang problema
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003482sa payroll nila kasi inuuna nila yung
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003483yung generation.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003484So, second round ako,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003485Mr. Chair, kasi marami pa akong concerned
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003486with national
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-003487Thank you, sir.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003488Thank you, Congressman Dago.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003489Next from the majority, we have
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003490Congressman Pajernos.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003490-split-2Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003491Good.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003492Afternoon po sa Department
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003493of Energy, headed by
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003494Secretary Guerin.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003495So, for my first
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003496question po, is with regard
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003497to the budget, DOE
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003498proposes a 5.575
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003499billion budget,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003500but its utilization
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003501presentation excludes a
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003502separate 29.86
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003503billion emergency
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003504allotment. How can
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003505Congress properly evaluate
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003506DOE's performance
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003507without a consolidated accounting
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003508of all regular, automatic,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003509continuing emergency, and Malampaya-funded
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003510resources? And,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003511considering the total amount under
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003512DOE's control, what lasting improvements
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003513in electricity prices,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003514reliability, and energy security
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003515justify additional funding?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003516Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003517currently, our utilization
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003518is at 49%
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003519as of today,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003520August 31.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003521We were hoping
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003522it would be about 70%
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003523already by this time.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003524Unfortunately, we had to
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003525recalibrate our
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003526procurement,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003527yung bidding namin for mobile energy
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003528system, and the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003529DOE automation project.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003530Kaya, nire-bid
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003531siya, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003532Once that's completed, and
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003533we're really fast-tracking this, kasi
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003534kailangan namin itong procurement
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003535na ito, that will reach about
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-00353668.31 already.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003537Kaya, probably within
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003538the months of September
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003539or early October, we'll
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003540reach that by then. The objective,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003541we already have done
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003542the simulation, and then
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003543we expect to reach about
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-00354495.89%
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003545by end of 2026, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003546Now, we have a catch-up
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003547plan for this, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003548Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003549Well, actually, minention ko po yung
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003550sa 29.86
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003551emergency allotment.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003552Paano po ba natin yun
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003553mamimesure po?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003554Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003555there's additional
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-00355629 billion
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003557that was
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003558given to DOE and passed
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003559to PNOC. That was
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003560in response to the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003561fuel emergency.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003562So, yun yung funds na ginamit
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003563ng PNOC Mother
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003564Exploration
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003565para po bumili ng
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003566mga reserba natin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003567Mother on the LPG
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003568and then
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003569Exploration Corporation.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003570So, yun po yung reserba natin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003571It's still there.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003572We have decided not to
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003573let go too much na ibenta na siya
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003574kasi hindi pa tapos yung crisis eh.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003575So, minimaintain lang muna
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003576namin yan. That will require a separate
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003577liquidation because we will
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003578liquidate that once the emergency is
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003579lifted already, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003580Thank you, Madam, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003581On my second point,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003582meron po three highlighted projects
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003583ang DOE, yung ating
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003584resource surveys, mobile energy systems
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003585and automation.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003586Total of
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003587about 2.91 billion
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003588or more than half po
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003589ng proposed budget.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003590Pero, about
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-0035911.53 million households remain
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003592without electricity while
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003593several areas still experience
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003594interruptions. Why is this
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003595the proper balance of priorities?
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003596How these expenditures
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003597directly produce lower rates,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003598fewer outages,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003599and permanent rather than
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003600temporary electrification?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003601Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003602First off,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003603these programs,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003604the MES, the mobile energy
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003605system, and
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003606then the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003607Graduometry Project,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003608and then the ISSP
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003609will make us
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003610more
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003611energy secure
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003612in that sense. Now,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003613when we talk about electrification,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003614DOE is actually not
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003615the main character in
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003616the energization
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003617of our country. It's more
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003618of the National Electrification Administration.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003619What is allotted
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003620only in DOE is
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003621the 500 million
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003622which we will use for
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003623MES, which will
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003624such units will be
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003625deployed to the islands na wala
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003626pang connection. So, yun yung gagawin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003627Kasi yun yung mga nakakalimutan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003628And then, it's not within the coverage.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003629So, dun po kami magde-deploy
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003630nito ng mga MES.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003631But, the electrification of
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003632NEA, I think
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003633it has been maintained. I'm not sure
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003634if the budget has been
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003635maintained na pareho din siya by
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003636last 2026.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003637It would be ideal if there's more.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003638Pero, we
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003639respect what is the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003640decision of the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003641DBM and the executive.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003642Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003643On my next point,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003644reported packed silica estimates
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-0036453 to 5 gigawatts, about
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-00364620% to 35%
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003647of Luzon's record peak would be needed.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003648Was that already taken into
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003649consideration when DOE projected
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003650the supply and demand of electricity in the Philippines?
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003651Or, will the companies there
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003652be competing with ordinary
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003653Filipinos for electricity?
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003654Are the follow-up question
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003655bar, are the retail rates expected to
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003656go up because of this?
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003657And, is packed silica
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003658covered by DOE's 25 gigawatts
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003659green energy auction
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003660roadmap, or will it require
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003661separate procurement?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003662Mr. Chair, we're currently
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003663in talks with the packed silica
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003664group and even with BCDA
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003665where it will be located.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003666Because, we need to know what year
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003667the megawatts are going to be needed
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003668such that we could plan
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003669accordingly. And, for the information
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003670of members of
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003671the committee,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003672we have over
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003673100 gigawatts
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003674of
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003675awarded service contracts
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003676for renewable energy.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003677The current capacity of the country
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003678is 32 gigawatts.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003679So, even if
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003680we double
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003681the need,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003682they're only asking for 3 gigawatts,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003683we have enough supply if we need
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003684to turn them on.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003685Ang kailangan lang kasi po nila ay mayroong
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003686off-take. Kung magagarantee ng
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003687packed silica na may off-take,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003688the plants are going to be built.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003689And, they will not compete with the
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003690regular plan which is for the rest
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003691of the country.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003692And, second, yung price impact.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003693Kasi po yung mga, kunyaring
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003694green energy auction natin,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003695ano po regulated po yung pricing
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003696diyan eh. So, alam na po
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003697namin kung ano yung magiging impact
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003698doon sa bill ng ating mga
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003699consumers. And, ang nakikita
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003700po namin doon sa study na ginawa
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003701natin with IMAP, habang
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003702tumataas yung porsyento ng renewables,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003703bumaba ba po ang presyo
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003704sa market eh. So,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003705dahil ang plano po natin,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-00370635% by 2030 na
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003707renewables, tapos 50%
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003708by 2040, eventually po
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003709bababa po yung presyo ng kuryente.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003710Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003711in addition lang, we can
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003712provide it to the committee. We
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003713already issued a data center,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003714although packed silica is not data
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003715center, they say, you know, it's manufacturing.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003716But, for our concern,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003717it's data centers. We have issued
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003718a data center guidebook.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003719Kasi, we'd rather have them,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003720uh, develop their own
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003721generation, uh, generation
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003722plan, self-generation dapat sila eh.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003723Not, so not to, to
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003724destabilize the grid. So, uh,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003725we can provide that to the committee also, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003726Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003727On my next question,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003728DOE retained a coal
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003729moratorium because existing
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003730in pipeline capacity was deemed sufficient.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003731But, many countries
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003732including Italy, Germany, Japan,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003733South Korea, and India
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003734among others, have already extended
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003735their coal plants to keep their electricity
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003736prices reasonable.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003737As we know, green energy is so expensive.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003738Is the government then planning
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003739to ask coal power plants to operate again
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003740so cost of electricity
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003741can go down?
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003742For a poor country like the Philippines
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003743where people are having a hard time
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003744paying for basic services,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003745should we not rethink the timeline
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003746of coal phase-out?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003747Mr. Chair, wala pa po tayong
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003748coal phase-out. We only have a
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003749coal moratorium policy.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003750No new coal plants may be built
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003751except those that are
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003752not covered by the moratorium.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003753Yung not covered po natin,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003754mga 3 to 5 gigawatts pa po ng coal
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003755yung tinatayo sa kasalukuyan.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003756So, even if we turn off
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003757some of them, like the ones that are
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003758really very, very old or
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003759non-efficient,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003760may papalit po na capacity.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003761Tapos yun naman pong tungkol sa presyo,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003762talo na po ng
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003763solar ang coal eh
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003764in terms of price.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003765Pag sinumahan mo ng
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003766battery, halos pareho na sila
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003767ng presyo eh. So, yung
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003768dating thinking natin na mas mura ang
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003769coal kesa renewable, hindi na po
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003770siya totoo for certain technologies.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003771Specifically po eh, solar po.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003772So, mapapansin niyo po
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003773yung portfolio ngayon ng Department
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003774of Energy, lumalaki po yung
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003775share ng solar. Kasi pag nagsisimulate
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003776po kami nung ano bang
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003777capacity ng solar, wind, etc.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003778Tinitingnan po namin yung
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003779bottom line, magkano magiging presyo ng kuryente.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003780And nakikita po namin na
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003781yung solar po nagkocontribute sa
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003782pagpapababa po ng presyo ng kuryente.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-003783Dahil mas mura na po siya sa coal.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003784Pwede po bang makaingin
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003785nung report na yan, your comparative
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003786analysis of the coal
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003787versus the other
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003788green energy?
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003789Yes.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003790And then, yung susunod ko po ay
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003791sa fuel marking program, which is
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003792supposed to deter smuggling and tax
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003793leakage by chemically
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003794marking tax-paid petroleum.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003795BOC reported po kasi yung
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-00379621.102 billion liters
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003797marked last year,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003798generating 247 billion
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003799in taxes. Yet,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003800madami pa rin pong mga illicit fuel
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003801that continues to surface,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003802such as nung last year,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003803about 674,520 liters
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003804of illicit fuel
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003805worth 22.44 million
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003806in Bataan.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003807Meron po, and then sa Bicol po,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-00380839,146 liters
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003809of non-compliant fuel.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003810So, despite six years of fuel
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003811marking, does DOE have an estimate
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003812of how much smuggled
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003813or illicit fuel is still entering
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003814the Philippine market annually?
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003815And how do you measure whether the program
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003816is working? Tapos,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003817follow-up question lang din po. Do you know what percentage
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003818of petroleum sold in the Philippines
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003819is legitimate tax-paid
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003820fuel?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003821Before, Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003822actually,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003823the smuggling,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003824would be more of a DOF
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003825under customs
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003826and BIR. Kasi in fuel marking,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003827it's more of monitoring if you pay taxes,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003828not if you have
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003829permit from DOE.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003830But, I think there's a way,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003831other than the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003832fuel marking system,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003833DOE
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003834can compare
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003835the import as against
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003836the sale.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003837And we can,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003838if you just give me a moment,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003839if you just give me a moment,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003840if you just give me a moment,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003841if you just give us some time
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003842to make the calculations,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003843kung para malaman, may record naman rin kung ilang
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003844pinapadala sa Pilipinas eh.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003845Yung kailangan malaman kung nababangga ba siya
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003846sa natatanggap nila sa Pilipinas.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003847So, Yusek Sandy can
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003848further explain on this.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003849We can provide you with the data.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003850We don't have it right now.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003851Yes, actually, also
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003852part nung automation
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003853and AI. Kasi ang laki nung data.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003854In fact, meron tayong
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003855data sharing agreement.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003856Sa Bureau of Customs
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003857and sa BIR
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003858and then yung sa data ng
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003859DOE, which is based
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003860sa declaration ng mga oil company.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003861Para pwedeng pagbangga-banggain
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003862yan para makita
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003863kung merong anomalya.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003864Bakit sobrang
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003865But there's a lot of data, so it's also part of automation and AI
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003866to have stricter cross-data referencing
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003867so that we can see those gaps.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003868We are working on trying to solve those gaps through data analysis.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003869Last about, with regard to the fuel issue.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003870As of April 2026, DOE reported approximately 49 days of diesel
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003871and 54 days of gasoline supply.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003872But those figures largely represent overall national inventories
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003873rather than necessarily government-owned strategic stocks.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003874Of the countries reported 49 days of diesel inventory,
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003875how many days are actually owned or controlled by the government?
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003876And where will PNOC physically store the reserve?
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003877Yes, actually, the government doesn't normally buy stock, no?
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003878We did this in this time of emergency.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003879We bought, essentially, the government's hold, the one we bought,
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003880five days of diesel stock only.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003881And then less than a day of stock of gasoline.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003882At the present time, the government doesn't have its own facility.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003883We rented storage.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003884In one of the private areas.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003885Private storage companies.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003886And, in fact, there was a discussion about strategic petroleum reserve,
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003887which the Congress is now looking into.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003888There are committee hearings.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003889There are drafts.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003890Because we have seen the importance of the government role.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003891But we have to define what is the role of the government.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003892Because we still don't want to intrude too much private enterprise.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003893Because,
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003894we need a lot of money for the negotiation of the fuel.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003895So, we have to be strategic about where to allocate the money of the government
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-003896when we establish the strategic petroleum reserve.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003897Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003898Yes.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003899So that Chico can recite.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003900He's the one embarking on the strategic reserve, on the government.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003901Yes, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003902They're already working on it.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003903If you can elaborate on it.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-003904What is our status now on putting up our own tanks for the government storage?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003905Yes, Mr. Chico Alvarez.
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003906Good afternoon, Mr. Chair.
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003907Members.
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003908Yes, next year is our priority project.
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003909We'll start our tank farm on the property of PNOC in Bataan.
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003910So, initially, on phase one next year, we will establish a tank farm worth one million barrels.
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003911But, eventually,
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003912the next phase,
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003913we'll reach 15 million barrels for our tank farm.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003914Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003915PNOC is really good.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003916Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003917Just a follow up on what Press Alvarez said.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003918Are we building a genuine government-owned strategic petroleum reserve or are we simply
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003919buying fuel whenever an emergency occurs?
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003920Our first phase will be owned by PNOC.
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003921The first one million barrels.
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003922And then,
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003923the next phase,
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-003924We are open to partnership with other private companies or anyone who wants to join us in a joint venture or invest in us.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003925No, it's very, very good.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003926Thank you.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003927So, last question, boss.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003928Mr. Ched, I would just like to make a quick manifestation.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003929Yes, sir.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003930I would like to manifest my full support for the proposed budget of the Department of Energy.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003931And, of course, any additional budget that will help our consumers, our kababayan, para bumaba yung presyo ng ating kuryente.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003932So, yun lang po.
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos
asr-003933Maraming salamat po, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003934Bago pa lang.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003935Paalala mo sa akin yun.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003936Yes, thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003937So, next, from the minority, we have Sara Ilago.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003938She's around.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003939Naan.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003940We have Representative Ched.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-003941She's in Gonzales.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003942Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003943Magandang hapon po sa ating lahat to the DOF family, headed by a very beautiful and hardworking Secretary Sharon Garin.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003944Bago po ako magtanong, gusto ko lang po magpunang magpasalamat sa NAPO Corps.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003945Kasi po, yung island.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003946The island, Barangays, ay na-address na po yung concern namin sa Eastern Samar.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003947I can still recall when our former colleague, Pres. Coco, was there in my province.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003948Bagyo po yun.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003949But still, tinuloy nyo pa.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003950Ang magkagandahan pa po, Mr. Chair, Madam Secretary, nanghingi po ako ng isa, dalawa ang ibinigay.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003951Ibig sabihin, pag nanghingi ka ng dalawa.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003952Dapat ang ibibigay nito.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003953Maraming salamat po, Pres. Coco.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003954Pangalawa, gusto ko pong magpasalamat sa NEA, kaya Admin Nani.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003955Si Admin Nani po ay malaking instrumento sa probinsya ng Eastern Samar.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003956Alam nyo naman po, problema sa kuryente.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003957May low voltage.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003958Andyan naman po, brown out parate.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003959Pero, very...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003960Admin Nani, please listen.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003961Pinupuri ka na po.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003962Pinupuri ka na.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003963Pinupuri.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003964Sinubok yung kausap mo eh.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003965Yod, pero hingi yun.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003966Ito puri.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003967Sorry, sorry po.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003968Thank you.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003969Pinupuri ba?
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003970Pinupuri.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003971I just want to thank sa mga intervention at mga tulong nyo po sa Eastern Samar.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003972Boss, as I have said, because of the brown outs and the other low voltage, you're doing your best.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003973Sa...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003974Para po.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003975Matugunan ang pangangailangan po ng kababayan natin sa Eastern Samar.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003976I will now go to my line of questioning, still to the NEA.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003977Nakita ko po sa GAA 2026 that we have the 69KV Subtransmission Line Project.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-003978Gusto ko po magtanong kung ano po ang status dito, Admin?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003979Opo, Mr. Chair.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003980Ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003981Thank you very much, Sean.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003982Ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003983Yan po ay...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003984Ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003985Inirequest ng Isabel ko sa akin nung 2025 at akin pong pinuntahan para inspeksyonin ang kalagayan ng Bayan ng Giwan.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003986Yan po ay para sa Bayan ng Giwan na supposedly load end ng Eastern Samar.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003987Napakagandang lugar po.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003988At nakita ko po ang...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003989Ang...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003990Investment potential sa lugar na to.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003991At narinig ko rin po ang hinahing ng mga residente ron at mga hotel operators.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003992Talaga nga naman po yung 220, baka nasa less than 110 po ang dating.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003993Tama po yan.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003994Kaya po ipinilit ko po na ilabi kay dito po sa Kongreso nung 2025 na matulungan ang...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003995Ang...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003996Ang NEA para mapondohan ang 69 KB po ng Bayan ng Giwan close to 200 kilometers, huya ata po yun.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003997At napagbigyan naman po ako ng Kongreso at nailagay sa GAA.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003998However, kumpleto na po ang aming feasibility study both technical and financial para sa Isamelco.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-003999Ready to go na po kami.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004000Kaya lang po nung...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004001Ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004002Nung...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004003Ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004004Nag-follow up kami sa DBM dahil wala pa akong downloading sa NEA, ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004005Ang sagot po ng DBM sa amin ay it is subject to the approval of the Office of the President.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004006Okay.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004007So that's now the status, sir?
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004008Yun po ang...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004009Ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004010Ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004011Yun po ang status at nagaantay po kami ng downloading.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004012Okay.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004013Any...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004014Ah...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004015Assistance po na pwede po namin may tulong ni...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004016Kung ano na yun...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004017Si...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004018Si Mayno...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004019Siguro...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004020Magtulong-tulong na lang po tayo para ma-realize na at inaantay na po namin...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004021Opo.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004022Actually, as in fact, nung ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004023Ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004024Budget hearing ng DBM, ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004025Kausap ko po si Kong Nonoy.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004026Okay.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004027At in-explain niya po kay ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004028DBM Secretary kung ano po yung ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004029Sitwasyon.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004030At ah...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004031I believe nakakuha naman po siya ng assurance kay DBM Secretary that gagawan po ng approvals
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004032at soonest possible time.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004033Okay.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004034Maraming salamat po, ah...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004035Sir.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004036Ah...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004037Ito po ay ah...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004038Composed of...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004039I think...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004040Six municipalities.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004041Apo...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004042Six municipalities.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004043Ang magtatamasa po nito.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004044Apo.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004045Six municipalities.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004046Six to seven municipalities.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004047Apo.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004048It's not just Gihuan alone.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004049Apo.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004050Sa Eastern Summer po, it is a lone district.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004051Lone district po ito pero merong southern part, merong northern part.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004052Yung northern part naman po, nandun po sila...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004053Yung lugar nila Mayno, nila Congrufus, dun po yung area na yun.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004054So, yung whole...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004055Almost whole ng southern part meron southern part.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004056Yung northern part naman po, nandun po sila...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004057Yung lugar nila Mayno, nila Congrufus, dun po yung area na yun.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004058They are in the place of Mayno, in Lacong Rufus.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004059That is the area.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004060So, almost the whole of the southern part will be covered by the 69KV line, the upgrade here.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004061And this is the big problem in the province of Eastern Samoa.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004062That is right.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004063And the truth is, we cannot give, there are still many people without electricity in that place.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004064And we cannot give the right amount of money because it will only add to the system's loss.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004065Because the line of the topping point is very small.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004066That is the situation in Eastern Samoa.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004067Thank you, Admin Nani.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004068Thank you very much.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004069The last question is for Nea.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004070In the northern part, we have the 128KV line, the upgrading as well.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004071Hopefully, it will be given.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004072Maybe, after 69KV line or next year, there will also be an upgrading there.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004073But the cover here, where we have low voltage, I think there are three, four municipalities only.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004074But in the northern part, that is the 128KV line.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004075Thank you for the last question and that is the last answer.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004076Mr. Chair, regarding the northern part, I talked to GM Bong Aman.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004077I talked to the chairman of ISA Melco.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004078Yes.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004079He put it in priority and used his RFSC, the Redvestment Fund for Sustainable CapEx,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004080to immediately add the upgrading to this place.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004081Thank you so much, sir.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004082To Madam Secretary, perhaps you can assist us and then you can...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004083Yes, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004084I will ask also Transco to study the transmission lines there.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004085Yes, definitely, they will visit Minority Leader.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004086Correct.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004087Just one last question.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004088One last question for the NEA and one and last question for the ERC.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004089I just heard one and two last questions, sir.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-004090Just for the NEA, sir.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004091I will allow it.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004092Just give me five minutes.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004093I still have, I think, two minutes.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004094No, it's not enough.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004095Well, to the ERC, last August 5 of 2026,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004096it was raised by Kong Dagooc.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004097With regard, Kong Dagooc and Kong Libanan.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004098This is with regards to the LLCC, Line Loss Congestion Charges.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004099And the hardly affected here is Region 6 and Region 8,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004100the Region 8 where the Eastern Summer is in contact.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004101My question is,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004102on August 13, if I'm not mistaken,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004103who spent...
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004104I mean, on August 5, when it was raised by Kong Dagooc and Kong Libanan,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004105there was a suspension after eight days,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004106the ERC, in collecting the LLCC.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004107So, meaning to say, if it is August 5,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004108most likely the following week,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004109there was an issue, the ERC, to suspend the collection.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004110But, I have here,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004111I have here a paper, a letter coming from Independent Electricity Market Operator,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004112dated August 25 of 2026.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004113I'm asking again,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004114my one email,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004115of the Line Loss Congestion Charges.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004116Can you please enlighten us, why it happened?
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004117Can you explain to us, why it happened?
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004118Who spent August 5?
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004119August 5 was raised, after eight days,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004120there was a suspension of the ERC,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004121but still,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004122the ISAMELCO
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004123of the LLCC was still being sued.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004124And then, automatically,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004125the general manager
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004126of the ISAMELCO
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004127objected the letter.
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004128I just need to clarify,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004129to be clarified with this, sir,
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004130to the ERC.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004131The...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004132The order that we issued, August 13, 2026,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004133calls for the suspension of the imposition of line rentals,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004134whenever the condition that we saw would exist,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004135and that is the condition where there is congestion in the interconnection,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004136in the major interconnection between Visayas and Mindanao.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004137But for all other trading intervals,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004138it is normal for the price to come out
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004139and it is correct to say that...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004140allocation of NSS
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004141so tuloy pa rin po
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004142yung imposition
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004143o yung pag-consider
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004144ng line rental
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004145during those trading intervals
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004146so I'm not so sure lang po
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004147if dito sa
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004148case ng
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004149Isamelco
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004150if totally
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004151ay hindi na niya
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004152binayaran yung
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004153line rental
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004154so we will look into that
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004155and then
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004156titignan din po natin with the IMOP
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004157kung anong magagawa para
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004158hindi naman na
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004159kung medyo mataas yung cap dapat bayaran
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004160ng Isamelco para hindi
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004161naman na isang bigla
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-004162ang pagbabayad nila
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004163yung question kasi
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004164dito
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004165nag-issue na kayo ng suspension
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004166sinabi niya na sa kanila
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004167bakit
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004168ito yung date nila
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004169tapos na ito
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004170yung kumbaga tapos na ito pag-usapan
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004171what I'm trying to say here is
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004172seryusohin po natin
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004173please call their attention
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004174kailangan po ito
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004175lalong-lalo na po sa mga taga-region
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004176ikagaya namin na napakamahal
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004177ng kuryente, I know, hindi lang po sa amin
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004178maraming
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004179cases po dito na
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004180nagre-reklamo
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004181yung pagkamahal ng kuryente
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004182sa eastern summer po as far as I know
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004183nakabawas na po ng 150
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004184pero not good enough
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004185not good enough para po dito
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004186please lang po sa ARC
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004187please take a look at this and then
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004188makita po at maramdaman po ng kababayan natin
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004189nagtutulongan po yung gobyerno
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004190Mr. Chair, we will look into that
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004191and we will resolve the issue
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004192okay, that would be all
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004193mr. chair, madam secretary, salamat po
Rep. Christopher Sheen P. Gonzales
asr-004194mr. chair, madam secretary, salamat po
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004195okay, thank you, congressman Gonzales
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004196next from the
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004197majority, congressman Gil Acosta
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004198okay, thank you, congressman Gil Acosta
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004199okay, thank you, congressman Gil Acosta
Rep. Gil "KabarangayJr" Acosta
asr-004200bakit pangunah?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004201wala, si congressman Gil Acosta
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004202wala, si congressman Gil Acosta
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004203next, from the majority, congressman Salvador Plato
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004204next, from the majority, congressman Salvador Plato
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004205thank you, Mr. Chair
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004206magandang
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004207kompo, madam secretary
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004208at ang pamilya ng DOE
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004209sekretary gallinata
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004210hindi na po natutulog
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004211mr. chair
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004212mayroon lamang po akong katanungan tungkol sa
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004213mayroon lamang po akong katanungan tungkol sa
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004214renewable energy program
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004215renewable energy program
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004216particular sa solar energy acceleration na tutugon sa ating pangangailangan ng alternative energy source.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004217Sabi kasi ni Secretary Francisco Laurel na may proposal siya ng geopensing around 3 million hectares of flat agricultural land,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004218particularly rice-producing areas, to protect prime prime land as the Philippines accelerates its shift toward renewable energy
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004219and prepares for the next Green Energy Auction or tinatawag natin GEA.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004220Secretary Green, how will the DOE meet its National Renewable Energy Program or tinatawag natin in RIP capacity targets for 2027?
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004221Kung ang significant portion ng plant ground mounted solar projects ay nare-restrict due to the Department of Agriculture's geopensing,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004222ang criteria. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004223Yes, sir. We've had a discussion already with the DA Secretary, but Yusek Ibarra can answer the question, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004224Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004225Yun pong mga solar power plants natin, required po silang magpakita ng proof of possessory rights.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004226Ngayon po, una, bawal magtayo ng solar sa mayroong tubig, irrigation. Bawal po yan.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004227Rice fields po, may irrigation. So, hindi po talaga kasama yan.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004228Sa ngayon po, wala naman po kaming developer na nagsasabi na tatamaan sila noong agri-fencing na gagawin ng Department of Agriculture.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004229So, hindi po kami nagtatayo ng planta doon sa pwede pong gamitin for productive agricultural activities. Thank you, po.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004230Sir, I just want to add also.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004231Okay, sure.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004232Meron din. Tama naman ginagamitin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004233Ito ang gawa ng DAA. Pero we also go around to the LGUs.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004234Ang pinopropose namin din sa kanila, they can actually issue ordinances na i-limit din nila para hindi affected yung food production nila.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004235They can do that also on their own. Kasi kahit mabigyan namin yan ng kontrata, dadaan pa rin naman yan sa LGU at kailangan nila ng permit from the LGU.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004236Thank you, Secretary, for that response.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004237Sa ilalim po kasi ng pinagsamang Farm to Energy Framework, anong bahagi ng allocation, yung allotment nyo ng DOE para sa 2027, ang direktang sumusuporta sa pag-uugnay ng mga suppliers ng renewable energy sa ilalim ng Green Energy Option Program or DOP upang mapababa ang halaga ng karyente para sa patubig, cold storage at mga pasilidad para sa post-harvest.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004238Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004239Mr. Chair, meron po tayong Green Energy Option, GOP. Meron din po tayong ARCOA, Retail Competition and Open Access.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004240Yung po sa Retail Competition and Open Access, last June 26 po, ibinaba po ng ERC to 100 kilowatts ang threshold.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004241Yung naman pong Green Energy Option, binaba po ng DOE to 50 kilowatts.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004242Ngayon po, pag nasa isang prangkisa lang lahat ng mga under sa Department of Agriculture,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004243nilang mag-avail noong tinatawag na Retail Aggregation Program.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004244Pag pinagsama-sama mo sila, aabot na po sila doon sa threshold nitong Retail Competition and Open Access sa CAGIO.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004245Pwede na po silang pumili kung sino po yung magiging supplier nila na renewable energy.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004246And as nasabi ko po kanina, mas mura po ang renewable kesa sa coal, for example.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004247So, pwede po mapababa ang presyo ng kuryente nila.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004248Salamat, Rep. Rima.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004249Mr. Chair, Madam Secretary, on this note, this representation fully supports the approval of the DOE's 27th Proposal Budget.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004250At baka pwede natin tagdagap pa. Kasi nakita ko naman, kaya paano siya nabagtrabaho eh.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004251Totoo po ito. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004252Mr. Chair, I just wanted to add on the threat of energy on food security.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004253Meron po kami ginagawa.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004254Gagawa ngayon ng mga bagong green energy auction na ang gusto sana namin eh pag nagpatayo itong mga auction,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004255mag-solar farm ka pero mag-tanim ka sa ilalim ng, mag-farm ka sa ilalim talaga ng vegetables or kung ano yung products.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004256Also sa canals ng NIA or sa mga fishponds.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004257We're talking to, we're talking to DA already pa na yung design siya at saka sino yung mga beneficiaries.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004258Pero we're working on it and I think your province can benefit.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004259So much on that.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004260Kasi hindi kailangan mag-agawan eh.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004261Pwede namang sabay sila na ipatayo.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004262Mr. Chair, thank you.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-004263Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004264Okay, thank you, Congressman Plato.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004265Next, from the minority, Congressman Antonio Tino.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004266Okay, next again from the minority, Congressman Stephen James Tan.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004267Thank you and good afternoon, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004268Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004269Especially to Secretary.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004270And to the rest of the DOE family.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004271Anyway, first of all, Secretary, I just wanted to follow up.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004272There was a proposal for the solar plant that I believe mga 16, we're targeting 16 barangay.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004273Kumbaga ito na yung last na mga barangay na wala talagang kuryente.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004274Pero it is quite difficult lang na ma-reach.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004275Through sa normal na line.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004276So that's why we have proposed that off-grid yung gamitin na solar power plant.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004277However, upon checking, it was approved na sa technical design but we are still waiting for the funding.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004278So may I ask if this will be included for the 2027 budget?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004279Mr. Chair, the electrification of off-grid.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004280Well, not off-grid.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004281Yung mga malalayo.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004282I think it's still not off-grid pero it's really far na hindi naaabot ng linya.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004283I think Admin Nani has a program for this.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004284And if you can, Admin Nani of NEA, they have a program for this and they can possibly include your area for this.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004285Yes, Mr. Chair.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004286Sir, let me check on my...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004287On my records, Mr. Chair, if the site that is the subject site being mentioned here is already evaluated for the installation of the photovoltaic mainstreaming,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004288the use of the solar home systems for the unserved and viable areas.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004289Thank you.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004290Can you check, please?
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004291Yes.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004292Yes.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004293Please, Mr. Chair, I believe approved na rin ito pa na I was able to talk to your office that there was an approved design.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004294So maybe we can facilitate na lang this one for the coming 2027 budget.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004295I think it's under the implementation of the...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004296No, no.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004297Best...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004298Under the TEP funding.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004299Yes, Mr. Chair, we'll just talk to the good congressman so that we can have more details and we'll follow through with the funding, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004300Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004301And secondly, Mr. Chair, I would like also to raise a concern in one of the islands in my district.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004302As of the moment, may genset sila na capable of providing 24 hours na kuryente.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004303But however, we really lack the fuel allocation.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004304So I believe, alam ko naman marami kayong problema nito.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004305Maybe we can resolve this in the coming budget cycle.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004306Mr. Chair, can we know the name of the island?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004307Anong isla siya, sir?
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004308I will submit you a letter later, Madam Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004309Maybe Pres. Coco Nograles can check on it if it's a SPAG area, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004310And then we can redesign so that less dependence on diesel also would help.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004311Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004312And Mr. Chair, I just wanted to seek guidance also from kay admin siguro.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004313In terms of the...
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004314Because in Samalcoan, we were very...
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004315aggressive in the widening,
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004316considering that the national highways being...
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004317naging prioritized ni Presidente at ni Secretary Vince Dizon
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004318to really widen the road.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004319However, it was estimated like 50 million yung cost of the poles na marire-remove
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004320and marire-relocate.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004321So as of the moment, I believe the Samalcoan has already spent like 13 million.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004322So parang tumigil na sila dahil since 2023 pa, hindi siya nababayaran.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004323So ano kaya ang maganda natin gawin dito po?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004324Mr. Chair, Kong, I believe me and the Secretary will sit down with Secretary Vince Dizon
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004325on September next week, no?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004326Nakipag-usap na rin po ako sa DPWH kasi marami na rin talagang utang ang DPWH
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004327pole relocation.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004328So during my last meeting with the USEC ni Conti,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004329we requested an allocation of at least 300 million
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004330to cover the pole relocation advances of the electric cooperatives.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004331Kasi sa 2026 yata, 50 million lang na-allocate ang DPWH.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004332But I'll take note of this, Mr. Chair,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004333and on those...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004334lane expansions, I'll make sure that it will be first among the list.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004335Mr. Chair, the pole relocation funding is actually through the DPWH
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004336and we have a MOA, no?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004337With them, na kahit na yan na yung mag-implement, basta i-refund lang yung gastos.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004338Thank you and good news siguro yun na at least ma-accelerate na natin.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004339I will be coordinating with the office of the administrator
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004340for the...
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004341relocation of the poles.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004342And,
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004343Mr. Chair,
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004344I would also like to raise an issue also.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004345There is one barangay na very near lang sa mainland,
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004346but however,
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004347since bagyohin yung lugar namin,
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004348parati siya napuputol yung...
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004349natutumba yung pole.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004350So if we can request that this island,
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004351para hindi na siya nagparatay,
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004352that constantly nagba-burnout,
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004353kasi mga roughly 1.5 kilometers lang from the mainland,
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004354baka pwede natin maging submersible,
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004355is it possible po ba na may mga programa pa kayong na
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004356ma-convert natin yung pole nila into a submersible nila
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004357so that it will be more resilient sa mga typhoons?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004358Yes, sir, it's possible.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004359We just need to do a cost-benefit analysis.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004360Baka naman continuing consumption tapos malaki yung investment.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004361If it does not work, nalagyan natin ng submarine cables, then we can deploy a different technology in the area.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004362We'll have it checked, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004363We'll talk to your team para makuha lang namin yung mga pangalan ng area, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004364Thank you.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004365Thank you, Madam Chair.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004366And there is also a solar project in the Samalcoan that the European Union has donated, like roughly 60 million.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004367So at least we get to enjoy na free na makatulong din siya na mababa na yung rate natin sa per kilowatt hour.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004368But however, is it possible that we can waive the fees?
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004369Kasi nagbabayad po yung Samalcoan.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004370Ako din ng roughly 100,000 a month sa mga, although kahit libre lang na binigay yung,
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004371dinonate lang yung, tawag nito, solar plant.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004372But however, medyo nagsisingil din yung DOA.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004373Is it possible po ba na we can waive?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004374Sir, we'll have NEA check muna the status of the co-op.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004375Yes, and then we'll work on it, Mr. Chair.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004376Yeah, Mr. Chair.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004377Maybe offhand, maybe I would suppose any collection or any spending should cover the operation and maintenance of the solar plant.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004378But we will check on it, Mr. Chair Kong, on how to go about your request.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004379Okay, and I would like also to check the status of the upgrading of the Luzon-Visayas transmission line.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004380Because malaking tulong din ito to avoid power shedding in Region 8 and probably Region 6 also.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004381Ito yung primary reason talaga na mayroon tayong MLD and mas higher na line rental.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004382So probably the problem talaga yung NGCP that medyo ma-upgrade talaga nila yung transmission line nila the soonest possible time.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004383But however, per plan, it will be upgraded on 2032.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004384Ano kaya yung possibility na it will be mas malapit pa, Madam?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004385Thank you for the last question.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004386Thank you for the question.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004387We're trying to figure out the long-term solution for this.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004388What we are working on today, we've finished Mindoro and Palawan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004389We are doing a master plan for Visayas.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004390The best solution for Visayas is for each island to be independent on their energy needs.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004391Dapat ang base load, kung anumang kailangan nila, nandyan sa isla mismo.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004392Hindi yung mag-i-import kapag galing Luzon or even from Cebu.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004393So we are doing the analysis now.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004394We're just trying to balance the cost per kilowatt as to what is needed to be constructed.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004395It will be a long-term solution, but it is a solution, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004396So, iniisa-isa namin yung isla.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004397Major islands would be five.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004398Panay, Negros, Cebu, Bohol, late summer.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004399So, we can present it to the Honorable Congressman.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004400Once we finish, give us one more month.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004401Kasi kailangan namin isimulate at simulate.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004402Because we cannot rely on the connection of Luzon to Visayas and Visayas to Mindanao all the time.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004403It should just be a reserve.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004404Kung kailangan, pwede tayong mag-i-import.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004405But I think that is the best solution for all the islands.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004406I mean, I'm from Panay and we pay about three pesos per four-line rental at one point.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004407So, kailangan talaga may independence ang kada isa.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004408So, we're doing the master plan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004409And in due time, sir, we will present the solution.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004410Yes, can this be submitted to the committee?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004411Mga October, sir.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004412Yes.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004413Thank you, ma'am.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004414And I think that's the last question.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004415But may yung first question about the...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004416Island.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004417I would like to recognize si Koko.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004418President Koko, nag-release to answer.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004419Hindi ata nakasagot yun.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-004420Thank you, Mr. Chair.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-004421Regarding the concern of the Honorable Tan,
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-004422the island actually has sufficient generators and is operating at eight hours at the moment.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-004423So, on the part of NAPO Corps, we commit to study the economics of it and try to increase it.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-004424The current peak demand is 108 kilowatts.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-004425So, pag-aralan po natin yun.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-004426And kung kaya po ng MOE natin, then we will expand it para umunlad lalo yung inyong isla.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-004427Salamat po, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004428Thank you, Congresswoman President Koko.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004429Thank you.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004430And I agree also with the good Secretary that each region naman, like in Region 8, we have a geothermal source of energy.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004431So, mas better siguro na we utilize the local source natin.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004432So, anyway, thank you, Madam Secretary.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004433Thank you.
Rep. Stephen James T. Tan
asr-004434Thank you, Mr. Chair, for the time.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004435Thank you, Congressman Tan.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004436Next, to interpolate from the majority, Congressman John Chan.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004437Salamat po, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004438And magandang hapon po sa inyong lahat.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004439Hello po.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004440So, may onting katanungan lang po ako na malapit po sa puso ko.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004441So, yung pinakauna po ay tungkol po sa poverty rule.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004442So, Madam Secretary, sa Special Provision No. 1 of the May chapter in Volume 3 of the very budget before this committee po,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004443naka-direct po ang NEA to prioritize yung mga sityo where, quoting the provision,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004444the absolute number of indigents and the incidence of poverty are high.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004445So, as identified in the latest official poverty statistics of the PSA.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004446So, yung mga statistics po, meron po tayo yung sa 2023 na full-year official poverty statistics,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004447which count 1,735,690 poor Filipinos and 279,220 poor families in the Bicol region.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004449So, so far, it's the largest absolute count of any region in the country.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004450So, yung tanong ko lang po, how will the NEA apply Special Provision No. 1 in the 2027 rollout, Madam Secretary?
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004451And of the sityos program for energization next year, how many are in the regions with the highest poverty counts po?
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004452Thank you.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004453So far, following that also, but also as a priority,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004454one of the first instructions I've given to NEA is prioritize Mindanao, actually.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004455It's one of the most in need, actually.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004456But on the side of Bicol area, Admin can further explain.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004457Thank you.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004458Tama po yun.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004459I was given direction.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004460Hinahabol po namin ang Mindanao, especially on those geographically isolated and disadvantageous areas.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004461And so far, majority of the funding of the SEP was dedicated for the island of Mindanao.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004462However, dun po sa mga, especially on Region 5, meron din naman po.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004463Medyo, hindi ko lang ko alam ang exact figures, but meron din nung allocation ng Kasoreko 1, 2, 3, and 4,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004464and even especially Aleko, Albay.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004465And we are trying to...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004466stretch the limited funding, having as a national policy, habulin ho namin ang Mindanao.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004467Because when I assume office, ang energization level po ng Mindanao is only at 75%.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004468So, yun po ang aming hinahabol.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004469That's why way back 2023, ang Luzon po ay nasa 95,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004470ang Visayas ay nasa 94, pero we ended up at 89%.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004471Only on the franchise areas of electric cooperatives because of Mindanao.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004472So, nakita naman po namin, pinuntahan po namin yung mga areas na yan, talaga pong kailangan nila ng kuryente ron.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004473So, wag po kayo magalala.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004474At lahat po yan ay ginagawa namin ng plano sa yung tinatawag naming ELTER.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004475Lahat po yan ay pinipili po namin talaga.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004476Yung talagang matindi ang pangangailangan.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004477Marami salamat po.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004478Marami salamat po.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004479Isa rin pong tanong po.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004480Actually, natuwa po ako nakita na nung start of 2026, Secretary,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004481nag-issue po kayo ng update dun sa ER 1-94
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004482na in-upget po natin from 1% to 3% yung makukuha po ng mga geothermal, yung mga plants po,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004483within the communities who are supposed to benefit from them.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004484So, gusto ko lang po malaman, Secretary,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004485mayroon po ba tayong...
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004486...intention or plan in the future na mas palakasin po itong pataasin?
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004487Kasi napansin ko po tuwing umiikot po ako sa Region 5,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004488ang lagi po nila sinasabi ay nandito po sa atin ang mga geothermal plants,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004489yung mga hydropower plants, pero bakit ang taas pa rin daw po ng kuryente sa kanila.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004490So, yung isang gusto po nila mangyari sana ay mas mag-benefit po
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004491pag nasa community nila yung mga ganong planta po.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004492Yes, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004493That's really the irony.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004494Nakikita nila yung planta pero mga taas pa rin yung presyo.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004495So, we've been working on several new guidelines or new circulars.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004496First is increasing the benefits of the communities from 1 centavo, not 1%, 1 centavo per kilowatt
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004497to 3 centavos.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0044981 centavo before hindi nila pinapansin, ngayon 3 centavos pinapansin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004499And then we've also loosened up the rules on how they will utilize.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004500Okay.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004501Ang second po, we have also revised the guidelines of the CSP na kung ang co-op na where the plant
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004502is located should have the right of first refusal.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004503Kailangan unahin siya.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004504Asi po, baka pagalitan ako ng Congress Pandago kung ano ikaw na ginawa.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004505And then on the CSP also, CSP is the...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004506Atan?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004507Competitive selection process.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004508Competitive selection process, which is the bidding process.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004509Atan?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004510Competitive selection?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004511bidding for new power.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004512We've also added the clause
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004513na kailangan,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004514ang dapat na i-prioritize,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004515o bigyan ng preference,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004516are the plants that are closest
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004517to the EU or the load center.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004518So that should help also
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004519the communities
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004520lowering their rates
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004521and also getting the benefits
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004522of being the host community.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004523In addition,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004524because our team has been going around
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004525all over the country,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004526we've been trying to inform the LGUs
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004527na pwede naman silang maglagay
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004528ng sariling conditions
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004529if they want to put it in their areas,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004530like employment,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004531ang resources na halimbawa,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004532materials that is sourced dyan sa loob nila,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004533or even the,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004534the community service
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004535that they need to do.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004536So we've been trying indirectly
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004537so that they can get benefits.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004538Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004539Kong, can I just interject lang?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004540Yes, please.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004541CSP kasi na pag-usapan
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004542kasi yung iba,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004543minsan pinapalampas yun
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004544para negotiated contract na lang.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004545So,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004546marami pa bang ganon
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004547na negotiated contract na lang?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004548Minsan sinasadya eh.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004549In relation lang.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004550Sorry, Kong.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004551Yeah.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004552Yes.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004553Mr. Chair,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004554Sec, if I may.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004555Lately, we are aggregating already
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004556the baseload requirement
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004557of Luzon and Visayas ECs.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004558We just concluded
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004559aggregating the Luzon and Visaya
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004560co-ops baseload requirement.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004561So, there'll be some economies of scale there.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-004562So, yun ho, anong nyayari ngayon?
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004563Okay, thank you.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004564Thank you, sir.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004565Thank you, po.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004566Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004567Thank you, Secretary.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004568So, actually,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004569isa po sa na-excite po ako
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004570nung nabasa ko po yun
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004571sa Philippine Energy Plan before
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004572was meron po tayong plano
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004573na palakasin po
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004574ang offshore wind energy
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004575in the Philippines.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004576And based on the
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004577Philippine Energy Plan,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004578I remember reading
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004579that it will comprise
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004580a huge bulk of our energy supply
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004581by 2040, I think, Secretary.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004582But correct me if I'm wrong, po.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004583So, Madam Secretary,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004584based po doon sa
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004585own planning documents po
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004586ng Department of Energy,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004587actually, 21 gigawatts po
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004588by 2040,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004589supplying about 21%
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004590of the country's electricity.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004591So, the department,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004592the PNOC po,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004593and the ports authority
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004594have been doing the work
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004595of readying the land,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004596yung mga port works,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004597rehabilitation plans,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004598tenure and ports for the program.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004599So, yung gusto ko lang po malaman,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004600yung 21% po ba
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004601na kuryente po natin
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004602na manggagaling sa offshore wind
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004603by 2040,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004604does it still stand
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004605as the administration's
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004606working target, po?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004607The percentage,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004608I cannot confirm,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004609but yes,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004610that we are pushing
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004611for offshore wind.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004612Right now,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004613we even have
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004614we even have
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004615an offshore wind
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004616auction that will be
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004617explained also by
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004618Yusef Guevara in a while.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004619Pero,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004620I just want to do
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004621a caveat lang
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004622because recently,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004623the past six months,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004624post the PEP
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004625that you have read,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004626Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004627we are doing another simulation.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004628So, we will come out with it
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004629siguro at the end of the year,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004630yung final na naman na
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004631bagong mix,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004632but still included
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004633yung offshore wind na doon.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004634Yusef Guevara,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004635if you can explain
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004636our program on...
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004637Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004638Yun pong ating offshore wind
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004639green energy auction
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004640ongoing for 3,300 megawatts.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004641Ang maganda lang po kasi
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004642sa offshore wind,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004643mataas...
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004644yung capacity factor niya compared
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004645kunyari sa solar. It's more than
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004646twice of solar.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004647So, tapos kailangan pong
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004648mag-umpisa na tayo yung mag-invest sa
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004649offshore wind para ma-realize
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004650natin yung pagbaba ng presyo.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004651Pag lalo mo ginagamit yung technology,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004652parang solar, we started
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004653with 9 pesos 68 centavos
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004654in 2015. It went
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004655down to mga 350, 450
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004656na lang ngayon. So, we
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004657expect ganyan din pong mangyari
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004658sa offshore wind. Yung pong porsyento
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004659niya sa ating renewable energy,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004660as na-mention po ni Secretary,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004661pwede pong magbago. Kasi nagsimulate
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004662kami para siguraduhin na yung
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-004663presyo po ay kaya po ng ating mga consumers.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004664Thank you po, Secretary and USEC.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004665So, yung next
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004666question ko lang po is
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004667what support does the
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004668interagency work need in this budget po?
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004669So, for the port works,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004670yung kunyari sa
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004671Jose Panganiban po and sa Mercedes,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004672pati mo yung grid preparation
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004673po sa funding
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004674po nito. Kasi yung
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004675worry ko lang po is magkaroon po tayo ng
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004676redirection kung ano po yung
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004677baka hindi po ma-prioritize yung offshore
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004678wind. Very promising po na technology
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004679po. Yes, sir. It's really
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004680important that we start those projects,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004681this administration, so for continuity
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004682and but USEC Macordo can
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004683further explain on this. Yes, Mr.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004684Chair, one of the most important
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004685infrastructure needed for offshore wind are the ports.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004686To give, to
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004687highlight, our existing ports,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004688maybe there are six to eight
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004689tons per square meter, but an
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004690offshore wind port requires about 30
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004691tons per square meter. Sinasadya po talaga
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004692yun. So, kasalukuyan,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004693Philippine Ports Authority,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004694you see, we have this
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004695greenfield port
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004696in Pambuhan.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004697The bidding, the opening bids was
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004698conducted already last February, and
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004699then there's a commitment for
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004700this to be completed by
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004701fourth quarter of 2027
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004702or the first quarter of 2027.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004703There is a second port,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004704and that is the port of Santa Clara
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004705in Batangas.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004706So, right now,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004707the FS of the
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004708Philippine Ports Authority is to be completed,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004709and after that, we are expecting
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004710the opening of bids by
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004711the third quarter for the construction
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004712of the Santa Clara port, this time
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004713using the PPP mode
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004714of construction. There is a third
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004715priority port, and that
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004716is the Curimau port. However,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004717the port in Curimau is
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004718signed for the floating offshore wind.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004719And since this Green Energy
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004720Auction 5 is
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004721dealing mainly
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004722with
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004723fixed bottom offshore wind,
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004724so the third port
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004725of Curimau
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004726will not be contracted by the
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004727PPA for this administration.
DOE Undersecretary Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo
asr-004728That's what we share.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004729Actually, yun naman po
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004730ang itatanong ko, and marami salamat po
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004731sa pag-consider din po sa
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004732KNA administration.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004733Yung pag-consider po sa off-grid
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004734na islands, dahil someone from Rapu-Rapu,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004735very important sa akin,
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004736na even our constituents
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004737from off-grid islands are still
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004738well taken care of. So, marami salamat po.
Rep. Jan Franz Norbert Joselito A. Chan
asr-004739Thank you, and Mr. Chair, salamat po.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004740Thank you, Congressman San.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004741Napakaganda na mga katanungan nyo.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004742Very educating. Very good.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004743Magaling
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004744talagang uragon.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004745Yes, from the minority,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004746we have Congressman Tino.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-004747You have the floor, sir.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004748Thank you, Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004749Pagbati po sa...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004750You have about 10 minutes or that.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004751Thank you. Pagbati po sa
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004752classmate ko sa Kongreso, si Secretary
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004753Garin.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004754Una, tungkol sa
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004755system loss.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004756So, inanunsyo ng Pangulo,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004757tanggalin na raw ang system loss.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004758Ang nangyari? Ano yung nangyari dito?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004759Sa totoo lang,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004760pagkatapos ng
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004761zona, parang ang dating pa, yung
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004762DOE pa po
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004763ang bumabawi at sinasabing
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004764hindi basta-basta ma-implement
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004765ang system loss. So, what is the status?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004766Malino na po yung direktiba
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004767tanggalin ang system loss.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004768Bakit parang hindi pa nangyayari ito?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004769Thank you.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004770Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004771As we showed
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004772in the slide earlier,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004773system
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004774loss has two
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004775parts. There's the non-technical
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004776and technical. Now,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004777to focus on the non-technical,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004778eto po, we already have
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004779a plan. It's not na hindi na binabawi
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004780namin or we are
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004781not
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004782following the directive.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004783It's just we needed time to make
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004784the proper assessment. Kasi hindi siya
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004785instant. Hindi siya yung sasabihin
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004786lang ng ERC from one day to another
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004787na zero na siya kaagad. Because it will
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004788take time. Kasi we have
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004789co-ops that we have to balance na
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004790kailangan ready sila na maging zero siya.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004791So, we have four
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004792phases for this. Every phase
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004793will remove 25%, 25%
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004794for phases until
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004795we have zero. And what do we have to do
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004796for the non-technical?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004797We have already identified
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004798we've done a GAN chart on this
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004799para ischeduled
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004800at sining responsible. For example,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004801we've done, we have
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004802a joint project with DICT
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004803for EGO para may reporting
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004804ng pilferage. We have
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004805consumer education and IEC.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004806We have
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004807we have
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004808drafting a MOA
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004809with the ILG so that we can
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004810work with the police together
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004811with the PNP together with
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004812the NEA for the enforcement of anti-pilferage.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004813Ang billing and collection
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004814efficiency, kailangan ayusin
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004815ng mga EC. Marami pa, no?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004816I don't want to
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004817prolong this. Pero, eto po yung phases.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004818And then, it will also take
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004819some budget.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004820Kailangan may budget
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004821para ma-implement ng maayos ng mga EC
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004822natin. And what we
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004823don't want is maburden
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004824pabalik ang consumers.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004825So, that is something
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004826that we are trying to figure out on how
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004827to fund this para
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004828hindi po ibalik rin sa mga
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004829consumers. Nababayagan din nila yung nabawas.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004830Tama. So,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004831we're working with NEA and their
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004832consultants on this para matuloy
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004833siya. So, the objective
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004834of the non-technical is really
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004835zero yan dyan. So, sa technical,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004836this
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004837needs a more detailed or
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004838in-depth assessment. Kailangan talagang
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004839mag-submit ang mga
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004840electric co-ops, especially electric
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004841co-ops, ng optimal
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004842ano ba tawag doon?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004843Optimal
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004844distribution development plan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004845Kailangan kasi yung ibang linya
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004846palitan para
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004847walang friksyon.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004848Kailangan yung ibang transformers, mga
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004849metro nila, kailangan palitan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004850So, we will await for that.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004851They need six months. We have
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004852made a consultation, mga six months.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004853Na matapos ng kada EC
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004854ang plano nila.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004855And the same objective
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004856is to bring it down to
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004857zero or near to zero, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004858Let me just digest the answer.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004859So,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004860system laws, technical,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004861non-technical. Yung non-technical,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004862yun yung pilferage.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004863Now, let me point out
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004864that 1994 pa po,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004865yung Republic Act
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004866ano nga ba to?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004867Oh,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-0048681832, the Anti-Pilferage
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004869Act, Section 10.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004870Nakalagay na po roon,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004871may mandato na po.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004872Rationalization of system
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004873losses by phasing out of
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004874pilferage losses as a component
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004875thereof. So, 1994 pa po
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004876sinasabi, tanggalin na at least yung
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004877tinatawag na non-technical
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004878sa system laws, tapos sinisihil.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004879So, 1994 pa yun.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004880Correct. 2026 na tayo.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004881At ang sinasabi nyo, yung non-technical,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004882gano'ng katagal po?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004883Non-technical?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004884Pilferage.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004885Four phases, maximum would be one year,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004886Mr. Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004887One year. So, yung atas ng Pangulo,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-0048882027 pa
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004889ma-implement.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004890Before the next SONA.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004891Before the next SONA. Okay.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004892Yung technical, yun ba yung kailangan
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004893pa ng budget?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004894Yun po ba?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004895We need, Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004896we need to see,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004897the optimization, optimal plan nila muna
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004898bago kami mag-decide on this
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004899because we don't want to,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004900you cannot just rush this eh.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004901Kailangan talaga aral ito kasi very
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004902technical siya.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004903Okay.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004904But yun ba yung pinakita nyo kanina?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004905You propose a budget of
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-0049067.5 billion
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004907over four phases
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004908para ma-tanggal
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004909ang
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004910this is a technical system loss.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004911Is that correct?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004912It's, it's for the non-technical.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004913For the non-technical.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004914I, I, I want to explain.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004915The pilferage should be zero right away.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004916Yes.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004917Yun yung ano namin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004918Yun yung, that's our, our idea na
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004919dapat from day one, once we issue this,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004920zero na siya kaagad.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004921May mga non-technical na minsan nami-mix siya,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004922kaya bantayan ng maayos ng DOE, NEA, and the electric co-op and ERC,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004923ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004924na namin-mix dyan sa non-technical,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004925dapat bawal yan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004926So, this is,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004927this is for us to reinforce, no?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004928Ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004929now, the, the other side of it
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004930is like, kailangan ang inefficiency
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004931na kinukos, ang cost niya is non-technical.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004932Yun yung mga kailangan ayusin yung mga linya
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004933or yung mga metro nila.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004934Ah, that will take some money.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004935Like what they did in Zamboanga.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004936For example, pinalitan lahat, naayos nila,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004937nabawasan yung, nabawasan ang non-technical loss nila.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004938So, that's, that's easier to implement.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004939This will not be an additional budget, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004940Ah, we will find a way how to assist the electric co-ops
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004941without asking for, ah, from the National Fund, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004942Could you elaborate on that?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004943Kasi may pinakita kayo, 7.5 billion yung nandun,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004944pero sinasabi niyo hindi manggagaling sa budget.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004945Saan manggagaling ito?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004946It could come from the cooperative itself.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004947It could also come, because they have earnings na rin, ano?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004948It could come also from a loan that, ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004949we can facilitate.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004950Ah, we are studying, still studying the, ah, several options.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004951Ang, ang, the main point is, ah,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004952dapat ang tao hindi nagbabayad pabalik nito.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004953Yung binawas mo, hindi dapat bayaran nila ulit.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004954Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004955Ah, thank you.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004956So, pwedeng manggaling sa co-op, ah, pwedeng, sabi niyo, loan.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004957Ultimately, babayaran din yan.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004958So, yun nga ang concern.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004959Siguro, mas, ah, ah, um,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004960magsabit na lang in writing, mahirap ngayon, eh.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004961Kasi nagtataka tayo, bakit kailangan ng 7.5 billion para ma-implement?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004962Are you talking about yung mga co-op kailangan tulungan para mag-upgrade ng kanilang facilities?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004963Is that it?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004964Mr. Chair, ah, not necessarily.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004965Some co-ops can, can afford to facilitate that also.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004966But there are also a cluster of co-ops na medyo, medyo ailing na rin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004967At baka hindi kaya.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004968At baka hindi kaya.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004969And that's where we come in also, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004970That's a case-to-case basis.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004971That's 130 co-ops na kailangan i-assess namin isa-isa, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004972Plus the, ah, the private distribution utilities.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004973Okay.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004974Thank you, Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004975Another topic muna.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004976Um, so, yung repeated yellow and red alerts, lalo na sa Visayas at Mindanao.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004977Um, ano-ano po ba yung mga planta?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004978Bakit po?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004979Ano?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004980At mukhang, ah, of course, the answer there is extended maintenance.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004981Mga ganon.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004982Down yung mga planta.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004983Ano-anong mga generators ito?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004984At anong ginagawa nyo para, ah, ma-address yung situation?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004985Including possible, ah, penalties for these, ah, plants.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-004986No?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004987Yes, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004988Ah, ah, I'll, I'll have, ah, you should give her, ah, the, the two experts in the,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004989ah, on this and, ah, ah, ah, Usec, ah, Maracigan to, to address the issue.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004990This is a very, very important issue.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-004991Yes.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-004992Yes.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-004993Usec Maracigan, you are recognized.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-004994Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-004995Well, first, let me, ah, let me present what the cases are in the Visayas, which is really
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-004996the main concerns that we have at the moment.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-004997For the Visayas, ah, it so happens that the planned maintenance happens at the site of
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-004998our small facilities like biomass and hydropower generations.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-004999We understand that summer, we are in the middle of the summer, so there is reduced water capacity.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005000Plus, it's an out-milling season for biomass.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005001So, reduced capacity.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005002Unfortunately, aside from the planned maintenance program of some of our facilities, there was
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005003a lack of water.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005004Ah, ah, ah, ah.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005005Ah, ah, ah.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005006So, we have a major incident that happened that two major units of coal facilities in
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005007the Visayas gave way one after the other, belonging to the same company.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005008And, ah, upon our discovery, the defect was on the manufacturing.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005009It was the turbine rotor that had a major concern.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005010And they had to ship out the turbine, ah, to be able to be repaired.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005011We also lacked the capacity to test the energy.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005012So, they sent it to India just for calibration.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005013So, it took a while.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005014But here, now and then, ah, since much of the facilities are being forced to run outside
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005015their operating procedures, then one after the other, the other facilities gave way.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005016Now, in the last month, it so happens that this, Big Danau also has a scheduled maintenance
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005017program for some of their facilities.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005018Ah, ah, ah.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005019Ah, ah, ah.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005020Ah, ah, ah.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005021Ah, ah, ah.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005022Ah, ah, ah.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005023We are now providing additional capacities to Visayas to the tune of up to 450 megawatts.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005024With the reduced capacity of the Visayas, the import from Big Danau was forced at full
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005025450.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005026Even Incluson is also assisting at 250 megawatts.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005027Ah, ah, ah.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005028Ah.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005029Ah.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005030Ah.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005031the magnitude of the reduction in capacity.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005032But with the scheduled maintenance program in Mindanao,
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005033the transfer of capacity to Visayas is also reduced.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005034Unfortunately, coinciding again, there were first outages also of other coal facilities in Mindanao.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005035For the capacity for Visayas, poor Mindanao is further reduced to almost zero.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005036That is the reason why currently we have red and yellow alerts for Visayas and a long yellow alerts for Mindanao.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005037Now, what is the DOE doing?
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005038First, we have already done the monitoring and assessment of each and every facilities because we have now a performance department circular assessing on the compliance and non-compliance of each generation facility.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005039Of course, the penalty will not come from the DOE, but rather to be endorsed to the Energy Regulatory Commission.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005040Also, since we recognize...
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005041The difficulties we had in the Visayas, we have identified energy solution and that is providing battery energy storage system in the Visayas.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005042So, we have identified up to 250 megawatts of battery energy storage that will support the auxiliary requirement for Visayas.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005043Right now, some 150 megawatts of this 250 are already in place.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005044And they are being tested at the moment.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005045Hopefully, it is steering its commissioning.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005046So, but in the meantime, we are also reviewing the possibilities of adding more auxiliary services for Visayas beyond what is required.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005047Particularly on the disposable requirement.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005048Because it happens that the requirement for Visayas...
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005049In extended period has also affected Mindanao.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005050Then, to support this as a long-term solution, when as mentioned earlier by Secretary Guerin, we are doing a master plan for the Visayas, including distributed energy generation to have each and every island of Visayas the full capacity to generate for itself.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005051While still interconnected to provide common auxiliaries.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005052So, those are the plans that we have for both Visayas and Mindanao.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005053Thank you.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005054Sir, this is not enough time to explain what you just said, right?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005055But what is clear is that, in general, particularly in Visayas, now the bioethanol is down and the coal plants have problems.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005056Mindanao is fast-growing, so it is already full.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005057Is that right?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005058Okay.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005059Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005060If I can answer that.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005061Thank you, Gary.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005062We have a long-term solution because there are already plants that we have identified, but putting up a coal power plant is minimum three years.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005063Even gas is five years.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005064The fastest solution is solar, but it can't be just solar because it's intermittent.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005065So, batteries are our complement.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005066So, IRIS is integrated with solar and batteries.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005067That would be the fastest way.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005068So, the long-term, we have plants that will come in.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005069The earliest is 2028, and that will stabilize Visayas, bring in new plants with better technologies.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005070Now, the short-term, that's what Yusef Mario is saying, that he will put batteries of about 200 to 300 megawatts,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005071and that will have the yellow and red alert.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005072It will decrease.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005073But we need also the mid-term.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005074The long-term solution is that we will put in barges or ramp up our diesel, our liquid fuel, while we wait for the long-term.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005075Those are the solutions that we have seen, and we are already implementing.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005076But it will take time, really, the solution that is long-term.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005077Because, basically, our plants are old, and we don't have enough.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005078And then, the renewable needs to be complemented with the batteries or whatever that will address the intermittence, like gas-fired power plants.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005079So, this is something that happened just because of this time.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005080It's been brewing for how many years already, and it will take us years also to fix it.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005081But we're working on it already, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005082Okay, in biomass, that's what you said first.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005083Is that what depends on sugar?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005084Is that what depends on sugar cane production?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005085Ethanol?
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005086Yes, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005087They are depending on the bagas per generation.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005088Did you have any experience importing ethanol?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005089Okay, this is a different view.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005090Biomass is in the agricultural waste, and you turn it into energy.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005091This is also seasonal, because it also depends on the harvest, right?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005092What we're talking about, what you mentioned about the importation of biofuels and everything, that is biofuels, which is under USEC Sandy.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005093The issue here is the competition between the domestic and the imported, right?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005094In which we are not allowed to import unless we use up all the domestic, in which we are still complying with, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005095My only point is, did the local production of bagas not reduce because more people imported?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005096No.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005097Okay.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005098That's all.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005099Mr. Chair, the importation of ethanol has no relationship because the bagas depends on the local agriculture, sugar cane plantation.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005100That's why, if you reduce the number of domestic buyers, the local production will be affected.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005101It's not.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005102The lack of bioethanol is in fulfillment with our current mandate on the use of biofuels.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005103That's a different matter.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005104It's not dependent on our local agriculture alone.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005105Okay.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005106You mentioned batteries as an interim solution.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005107Where does the energy of batteries come from?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005108I mean, you know, is it solar?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005109How do they?
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005110You charge the batteries. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. In the early morning, we have enormous
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005111generation of solar. Besides solar, not necessarily; it's still from the grid
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005112because these are ancillary services. So excess generation during the peak hour of renewables
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-005113even if we have other generation
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005114uh mr chair please
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005115the highest in percentage in the energy mixing renewable at 45 percent
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005116about 45 percent unlike the rest of the countries 25
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005117i'm picking up visayas the peak of the mania
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005118so that will help the yellow and red alert okay um
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005119was recently in cebu
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005120about an hour no anyway
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005121dunsa mahabang
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005122another question
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005123height of the energy crisis
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005124bumili, nag-procure ng 20 billion worth of fuel ang directly
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005125ang DOE
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005126Ano na po nangyari dito?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005126-split-2Thank you for that last question
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005127Mr... please answer
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005128...
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005129Yes in fact
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005130300 000 barrels one point something billion liters effectively among a five days
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005131total country supply of
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005132diesel
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005133yung nabili ng
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005134Nabili ng PNOC EC
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005135mga days diesel supply
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005136and uh as of now
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005137merong portions na nabenta na to Napocor
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005138and we are still because malabo pa rin yung situation we are still retaining some of those
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005139supplies and then nasa isang private storage and that's why like i said earlier uh inumpisaan na
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005140yung usapin at nagmungkahi na ng batas para sa SPR sa National Strategic Petroleum Research
PNOC President and CEO Franz Josef George E. Alvarez
asr-005141para ma-address yung mga ganitong mga pangyayari sa susunod na mga panahon kung mangyari pa ulit
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005142okay thank you Usec, thank you Congressman Tinio
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005143chair baka pwede magsubmit po ng report status ng five days worth or how many million barrels
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005144yes you are directed to submit to this committee
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-005145Naka-store pa rin. Tapos sabi ninyo kasi, Chair, 10 minutes, pero hindi pala. May mga tanong pa tayo kaugnay sa nuclear at iba pa.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005145-split-2Second round, sir. Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005146We can submit by today.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005146-split-2Thank you Cong Tinio
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005147Next, from the majority, we have Congressman Jay Vergara. Oh, baby.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005150Ah, magandang hapon po.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005151Magandang hapon po.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005152Para sa ERC po.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005153Given the rise of rooftop solar adoption,
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005154how does the ERC evaluate the impact of net-metering backfeed on technical system losses and what regulatory safeguards are in place
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005155to prevent those associated costs from being shifted into non-solar consumers?
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005156solar consumers.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005156-split-2We're well aware, Mr. Chair, of
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005157of that possibility as soon as there's enough solar rooftop installations
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005158that are online in the distribution utilities network right now we're considering the
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005159possibility of expanding our distributed energy resources and including as a part of
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005160the installations that a dr user can install would be aside from the solar rooftop would be a
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005161battery so
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005162somehow this will ease the impact of solar exports to the distribution utilities
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005163but we are well aware also that under the current rate setting methodologies as there are more and
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005164more solar exports to the grid there will be cannibalization of the market of the distribution
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005165utility and there may be also need to address the rate setting setting
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005166as well as the technical aspect of the operations of the distribution utility
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005167because there will be more and more exports to it of of uh intermittent energy and there might be
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005168some impact already on the on the quality of its energy that is being supplied to its other customers
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005169we're addressing this through further studies on what the distribution utilities will need
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005170to prepare for and what possible amendments will have to be introduced once we are done
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005171with the 2026 Philippine Grid Code.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005172We intend to also revisit our current Philippine Distribution Code so we can provide for the
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005173appropriate interconnection standards of these solar rooftops, especially those that are
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005174bigger in capacity and will already be falling under the distributed energy resources category.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005175The lines we have designed are the following.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005176The line we have designed is that the current comes from the grid to the substation to the
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005177transformer, to the consumer, one way only.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005178My question is, are the lines that we have drawn in this system, will this not affect
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005179the system loss that will increase?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005180Our initial observation based on our discussions,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005181our discussions with the Paris Distribution Utilities, the changes that we saw in our
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005182systems from the wholesale down to the distribution level
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005183ang pinaka
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005186Critical would be the installation of the metering facilities
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005187But insofar as the impact of these developments on system loss, considering that this exported energy will be consumed in that same vicinity,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005188we foresee that the impact of the current lines that have been installed will be minimal aside from the fact that whenever there should be new solar facilities or rooftop facilities that are interconnected to the distribution grid,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005189one of the requirements is the conductance.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005190By the distribution utility of the distribution impact study, and that distribution impact study will be the opportunity for the distribution utility to evaluate the possible impact of that connection
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005191and accordingly prescribe whatever will be needed to allow for that connection such as the installation of new metering facilities
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005192or the distribution utility of the distribution impact study.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005193Thank you.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005194Or is there a refusal to connect, especially for those above the net metering threshold, unless certain investments will be made also by the intending customer that will connect a solar facility?
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005195So, sa inyong buong palagay, hindi na kailangan baguhin ang sistema ng pag-generate ng kuryente.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005196Okay.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005197Sa...
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005198Kasalukoy ang infrastruktura.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005199Nagbabago na po talaga yung kompleksyon noong pag-generate ng kuryente.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005200Dating centralized, highly centralized yung ating power system nang gagaling sa mga malalaking mga generation plants na nakakonekta sa transmission.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005201Later on, nakita natin na yung mga ibang planta nag-e-embed na sa distribution network.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005202At ngayon po ay nakikita natin na yung mga...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005203individual na mga consumers mayroon ng kapabilidad na makapag-generate din para sa sarili nilang pangangailangan at makapagbenta rin, makapag-export.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005204Kaya patuloy din po yung ginagawa nating pag-aaral kung ano ang dapat baguhin doon sa regulatory framework.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005205Nabanggit ko nga po yung tungkol doon sa paniningil ng distribution charge ng distribution utilities.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005206Maaring magkaroon nito ng impact dahil habang dumadami yung mayroong mga...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005207generation facilities, nababawasan ng kilowatt-hour sales ang benta nung ating mga distribution utilities.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005208At kaya kung ang kanilang revenue ay nakabase sa per kilowatt-hour, maaring mabawasan nito at magkakaroon sila ng mga stranded assets na kanilang pinut-up.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005209Nag-tayo sila ng mga linya ng ganitong kalalaking mga kapasidad pero dahil nagkaroon ng mga pagbabago,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005210kompleksyon doon sa ating...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005211energy landscape at nagkaroon ng mas maraming distributed energy resources ay kinakailangan talaga ng pagbabago doon sa regulatory framework.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005212Kasama na din po dyan yung pagre-rebisa bukod doon sa Philippine Green Code at yung distribution code.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005213Yung mga pagre-rebisa ng mga interconnection technical standards, pagkakaroon din po ng regulatory framework pagdating sa battery.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005214Kaya ito po ay tuloy-tuloy na pag-aaral.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005215Kaya dapat tayo na tumigil lang at manatili doon sa nakagawian nung 10, 20, 30 years ago dahil nagbabago din po talaga ang landscape.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005216Salamat po.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005217So may technical study na po ba ang DOE o ERC hingginit sa net metering sa technical losses ng isang kooperatiba o ng isang distribution utility?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005218Sa ngayon po.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005219Hindi po po namin na-quantify kung mayroon talagang impact dahil we operated on the assumption that since itong mga export na ito will be consumed in the same area,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005220datawid lang doon sa kapitbahay at hindi na masyadong magiging malaki ang dadaanan, maliit lang or if not, wala pa nga or positive pa ang impact dahil sa inbis na yung kuryente manggaling sa mas malayong lugar para supplyan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005221Yung kapitbahay nung isang customer na naka net meter, yung kuryente yung ginamit niya ay nanggaling na lang doon sa kapitbahay na mayroong sobra or may export.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005222Kung dudumihan ko o isip ko, kung ako ay ang 10 kilowatt ang kailangan ng aking bahay, kung gawin kong 25 dahil naging distribution utility na ako.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005223Kung...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005224kakayanin po nung inyong bubong, yung kapasidad na 25 kilowatt, samantalang ang inyong demand ay talagang masiservisohan lang ng 10 kilowatt, magdidepende na po yan kung ito ay naka net meter, magdidepende po nga yun yan doon sa pricing methodology.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005225Ngayon, ang umiiral na pricing methodology, yung bayad sa iyo sa export mo ay equivalent doon sa average generation charge ng distribution utility.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005226So, kung ang...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005227Yung pagtatayo naman nung iyong kapasidad na 20 kilowatt, on a per kilowatt hour basis, mas mababa kaysa dyan sa pricing na lalabas based on that pricing methodology, maaring hindi siya economical na mag-put up ng kapasidad higher than your own requirement.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005228But, kung like nakikita natin ngayon, pataas din ang trend ng generation charge.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005229At pababa naman, ang pababa yung per kilowatt na cost ng pagtatayo ng solar, maaring ang makainggan yan ng mayroong magtatayo ng kapasidad higit doon sa kanilang pangangailangan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005230At sa puntong ito, ang question is, mayroon pang question on the stranded contract cost ng distribution utility.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005231Dahil maaaring kumontrata ang distribution utility ng katamtaman lang.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005232Para doon sa pangangailangan ng captive customer niya, at dahil nga mayroon siyang mga customer na nagsipag tayo ng kanilang self-generation facility at mayroon pang benta, mayroon pang export,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005233baka mga hulugan nito na magkakaroon siya ng mga kontratang pinasok na hindi naman niya magamit dahil kailangan unahin yung export ng net metering customer.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005234So, kakailangan din talaga tingnan yung implementasyon, yung current implementation ng net metering.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005235Kung hindi na yun makaka-apekto doon naman sa mga kontratang pinasok ng distribution utility para sa pagsisilbi sa kanyang captive customers.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005236At ang isang pamamaraan dito ay kung ibubuksan yung net metering, hindi lang doon sa distribution utility, kumbaga, hindi lang yung distribution utility ang mamanduhan na bumili o kumuha noong kuryenting yun,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005237kundi maaaring iba ring end user o retail electricity supplier ang kukuha o mag-a-aggregate nitong export na ito at ibibenta naman niya sa kanyang customer,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005238be it the captive customer or be it the contestable customer or for its own use.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005239So, tagal po nyo sa pagsisilbi. Bata pa po kayo, nakilala ko na po kayo, Chairman Juan.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005240Meron po kayong sulat, System Loss Performance of Distribution Utilities, dated August 26, 2026.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005241So, pinag-aaralan ko po ito at tinitinan ko.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005242Kanina pa po pinag-uusapan, technical loss, dalawa yan, kasi hindi po maintindihan ng masang Pilipino.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005243Ano ba talaga? Kasi napakaraming charges na nakalagay.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005244Buhat nung iyan, bundle natin yung rate. Yun po ang malaking problema eh.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005245Kaya minumura po lahat ng DEU at saka ng kooperatiba.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005246So, hindi umalaman ng tao kung saan, kung bakit ganito kalaki.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005247Samantalang generation cost ganito.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005248Ang generation cost po ba ay merong system.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005249System loss.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005250Yun pong malalaki, yung generating corporation, naka-embed na po dyan yung cost ng transmission loss
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005251na nai-incur sa pagsusupply mula sa generation plants na nakakonekta sa transmission
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005252papunta doon sa kanilang distribution utilities.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005253So, ang bayaran nila, yung presyohan yan, inclusive na doon sa cost ng transmission loss.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005254So,
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005255lahat po lumalabas, hindi lang utility, hindi lang Meralco, hindi lang kooperatiba,
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005256hindi lang yung malalaking privado o kaya kooperatiba, ang may system loss charge.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005257Opo, nag-i-incur ng transmission na system loss at may cost yan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005258Mayroon din sa distribution level, may cost yan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005259At ang recovery, pagdating sa distribution level na system loss,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005260ito ay naka-reflect doon sa system loss charge.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005261Dati, bago nung nag-unbundling, ito ay nagsisingil na rin.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005262Kaya lang, ito ay nakapasok naman doon sa power purchase adjustment, yung PPA,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005263noong bago tayo nagkaroon ng IPIRA at ng unbundling.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005264Tama po.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005265Kaya nga, hindi mo maaintindihan ang masang Pilipino.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005266So, kailangan po kasi,
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005267si Katari Karin,
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005268at saka sa ERC po,
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005269kailangan po talaga ng efektibong komunikasyon sa madlang Pilipino.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005270Masang Pilipino.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005271Na ito po ang problema.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005272Ito yung charges, ito lang.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005273Kesa yung napakarami pong charges sa isang bill na natatarantay tao,
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005274hindi nila maalaman.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005275Yes, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005276At, Mr. Chair, we'll work with the ERC on the reformatting of the bill
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005277para mas madaling maintindihan, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005278We'll work on it.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005279Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005280So,
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005281hindi na po akong masasalta dahil maliwanag naman po na.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005282At, alam ko pong capable ang ating sekretary at saka yung ating ERC Chair.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005283Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005284Maraming salamat po sa inyo.
Rep. Ed Christopher S. Go
asr-005285Thank you, Representative Vergara.
Rep. Ed Christopher S. Go
asr-005286Now, we move to the recognize Sarah Elago
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005287Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005288Para po sa ERC, batay sa inyong ulat as of mid-August,
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005289may nasa 5,380 consumer complaints ng naisampas sa ERC ngayong taon.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005290Mas malaki po ito kumpara sa 5,329 complaints noong 2025,
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005291at 3,220 complaints.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005292189 naman noong 2024.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005293Higit 4,000 naman po dito,
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005294o 77% ng complaints ngayong taon.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005295Nangangalahati pa lang po tayo ngayong 2026
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005296at tungkol po sa issue o concern na kaugnay sa serbisyo ko ng Meralco.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005297Ano na pong status ng mga complaints na ito?
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005298May na-penalize na po ba ang ERC na electric power industry participant?
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005299At kung meron, nakabatay po ito sa anong grounds?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005300Una po, lilinawin lang namin yung aming kategorya ng consumer complaints.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005301Dalawang klase po kasi ang tinuturing naming complaints.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005302One, yung informal na naisasampas sa amin sa pamamagitan ng email, walk-in, letter, o referral.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005303Ito pong mga ganitong nature ng complaints,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005304bago po siya talaga maging formal na complaint,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005305ang aming ginagawa ay namamagdala.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005306Pagitan kami between that consumer and the utility.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005307Nang sa ganon ay kung magkakaroon ng solusyon or dispute resolution,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005308ay magagawa nila at their level.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005309So, ang karaniwan po na nakakarating sa amin ganitong sumbong reklamo
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005310ay may kinalaman doon sa bill.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005311Meron po na nagkukwestyon doon sa kanilang natanggap.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005312At mayroon din naman po ng mga instances na lumalapit sumusulat sa amin.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005313Ang kadahilanan naman ay mayroong naging inspeksyon ang utility, ang Meralco,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005314at sila ay nakitaan daw ng badges ng mayroong problema doon sa metro.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005315Kaya hinatak yung metro.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005316At ngayon ay sinisingil sila ng differential billing na malaki.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005317So, sumusulat sila sa amin, pinagbibigay alam na ganito yung sitwasyon nila.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005318Pagka ganito pong instances, pinapatawag namin o sinusulatan namin ang utility upang magkomento.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005319At nakakaroon ng mga conciliation hearings or conferences between the consumer complainant and the utility representative.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005320Kung wala pong maging resolusyon doon sa kanila pong reklamo, amin pong ina-advise sila na gawing formal na yung complaint sa pamamagitan ng pagpa-file ng formal complaint.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005321This is a verified complaint, kaparehan ng mga complaint na ipina-file sa mga regular courts.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005322Pero ginagamitan po namin ito ng summary procedure, nang sa ganun mabilis lang din po.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005323Kapag na ito na po ay na-transform into a formal complaint, ang turing na po namin dito ay isang proceeding na nangangailangan ng pag-exercise ng quasi-judicial jurisdiction or authority ng ERC.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005324Kaya sa pagdating sa ganitong proceeding, magkakaroon ng pre-trial conference, tapos presentation of evidence through judicial affidavits,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005325o pamisan, nakakaroon din ng formal trial.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005326Doon po sa dami ng 5,000, [unclear]. Sa ngayon po, as of the latest, ang ongoing po na consumer complaint namin sa pagdating sa Meralco ay nasa 3,657 na.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005327Ito po yung mga informal or letter complaints.
ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro
asr-005328Ito po yung mga 629 na clause and termination.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005329Yung pong kabuuan of the letter complaints that we received for 2026, 629 na po yung aming naisara.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005330Ibig sabihin, nagkaroon na ng maayos na usapan o resolusyon yung complaint na yan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005331Yung formal complaint.
ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro
asr-005332It's formal complaint.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005333Pero yung pong mga hindi na nagkaayos,
ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro
asr-005334This one, 2026 po.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005335Pagdating po,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005336Combined po yun, sir.
ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro
asr-005337Combined.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005338Ah, sir?
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005339Combined po. 27 lang po.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005340Ong going po natin.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005341It's 51, pero combined, insist po, kasi ito siya.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005342Oo.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005343Sa mga distribution utilities, lahat na po, ang ongoing lang sa amin ay 51.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005344Yes, sir.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-00534551 po na kaso para sa 2026.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005346Sir, can you submit that data to this committee, please?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005347Apo.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005348We will submit po.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005349Yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005350I will look forward to the ERC submission on this.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005351I'd actually like to ask, sino po yung mga personal natin na in charge dyan?
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005352Paano ba natin mapapabilis yung disposition ng mga cases?
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005353Paano po natin mapapabilis yung pagsagot dito sa mga issues, concerns, complaints na nailalapit sa atin?
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005354Kasi nababahala po tayo, bagamat meron naman po tayong substantial number na rin ho,
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005355ng naisasara.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005356Natutugunan.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005357Pero kung meron pang maibibilis, para matiyak po natin, agaran natin din na nasasagot kung ano man yung mga concerns
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005358ng ating mga consumers pagdating ho dito.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005359Mr. Chair?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005360Mr. Chair?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005361Hindi nakikinig.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005362Mr. Chair?
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005363Yes, ma'am.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005364Mr. Chair?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005365Ipa-plug-in ko lang, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005366ERC actually...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005367has added tasks and added work because of all the SONA directives, also the complaints,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005368and with the oil crisis also, dumami talaga.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005369Every year, there are more power plants to regulate, more distributional utilities and electric co-ops to regulate.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005370Unfortunately, their budget request has been cut and hopefully the Congress can address that.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005371So we can...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005372They can have more...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005373They can have more...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005374They can have more personnel and more capacity in order to be faster in their responses.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005375They're not part of the OE, but they are a regulator, but I think it's about time for them to have a...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005376Medyo dagdag lang ng consultants and people also to help them with this, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005377Mr. Chair, sige ho, maisumite na lang ng ERC yung kanilang original proposal for the personal services.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005378Given the added tasks, syempre gusto naman natin maayos din ho yung compensation, matiyak ho yung...
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005379Karapatan, yung interest din ng lahat ho ng ating mga manggagawa at kapwa lingkod bayan sa pamahalaan.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005380Lalong-lalo na sa may napakahalagang gawain na tiyakin na wala hong abuso at wala hong kumbagang lumalagpas sa kung ano lang yung dapat
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005381pagdating sa napakahalaga na utility na niregulate ho ng ERC.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005382Ang ngayon naman ho, nais kong magtanong may mechanisms po ba yung ERC para ma-ensure yung...
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005383Implementation ng Meralco refund na matiyak ho natin na kapag may refund ho sila na matitiyak na matanggap ho ng ating mga consumers.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005384E hindi naman ho ito maipapasa naman pabalik rin sa mga consumers sa mga susunod na panahon.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005385Yes po, depending on the nature ng refund na iniimplementa ng Meralco, kung ito ay may kinalaman doon sa...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005386Alimbawa doon sa...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005387Pass-through charge niya, ito ay nire-reflect as a separate item.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005388Kung ano yung alimbawa ay refund rate nakatumbas para doon sa over-recovery na yan, ito ay nakareflect yung refund rate na yan at yung corresponding amount.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005389So makikita rin ito yan sa bill natin and every month, ang Meralco and all other distribution units...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005390Nagsasubmit po sila ng kanilang implementation ng kanilang pass-through charges para nagkakaroon din po ng confirmation.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005391At malalaman po na natapos na yung refund dahil kailangan po mag-submite ng report ang Meralco sa ERC na yung utos sa kanila na amount na i-refund.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005392Ay natapos na nila, naisoli na nila ng bumbo.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005393Salamat po, Mr. Chair. At yung antabayanan po natin yung submission mula sa ERC tungkol dyan.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005394Ngayon naman sa DOE, November 2022, naglabas ng Department Circular No. 2022-11-0034 na nagpapahintulot sa ating pamahalaan na pumasok sa kontrata with foreign citizens, foreign-owned corporations para mapababa yung gasto sa renewable energy projects.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005395At gawing mas abay.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005396Mula po 2022, ilang kontrata nang pinasok ng ating pamahalaan kaugnay ng renewable energy at sino-sino hong mga foreign-owned corporations ang makausap natin dito?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005397Magmula po 2022, nagpas pong isang libong mga kontrata po ang pumasok. Yung mga 100% foreign-owned po, less than 100 po.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005398Sir Chair, ganihinga.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005399Ganihinga na lang po ng representation na ito, yung listahan, kung sino-sino huya. Alam ko marami. Subukas rin kami soft copy para sa Committee on Appropriations.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005400Ngayon naman, nais kong magtanong tungkol sa statements ng ating sekretary tungkol sa Paxilica.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005401Sinabi ni Sec. Agarin na ang DOE ay nagdadraft ng circular para maglatag ng guidelines sa paglalagay ng generation capacity para sa data centers at technology hubs.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005402Kabilang ng Paxilica. Sinabi niyo rin ho na may several options para matugunan ang power requirement nito mula 50 megawatts, 100 hanggang 5,000.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005403Ano na po ang status nito? May draft na po ba? At kailan ho ito maasahan na matapos at mailabas?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005404Mr. Chair, it's a data center guideline for energization.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005405Paxilica, they've been repeating na hindi daw sila data center.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005406We're focusing more on data centers because ito talagang heavy.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005407We can actually send the draft, pero we are adding more provisions for PESA.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005408So maybe we will finish by the end of the month.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005409We can send it once it's finished and I can issue it officially already.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005410Thank you, ma'am.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005411Sinabi ho ng ating sekretary na may several options.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005412Ano-ano ho yung mga options?
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005413Para ma-supply yan ang energy requirement ng mga data centers na ito.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005414At sa kaso ho ng halimbawa na nabanggit ko sa Paxilica, kung sakali ho na mapipirmahan ho natin yung framework sa darating na November.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005415It's more than a framework. It's just a guideline. What are the options they have?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005416For example, halimbawa, they've been saying they need 2 gigawatts or 2,000 megawatts.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005417So, instead of getting it from the grid,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005418pag ma-destabilize niya,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005419one option is they can produce it themselves.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005420They can put up the power plant.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005421Another is they can ask somebody to put it up for them.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005422Or if it's a PESA zone, maybe the economic authority can also do the production of energy and do the distribution and transmission as well.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005423Or they can get a supplier.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005424Halimbawa, i-de-reconnect.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005425Or pwede din na magkontrata siya halimbawa sa isang supplier.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005426Ibig sabihin niya yung supplier, siya yung naghahanap.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005427Tapos nagbebenta lang siya ng power sa kanila.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005428So, it's like GEOP or RES, ARCOA, na siya yung sasabihin niya halimbawa,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005429one of those retailers, I need 1,000 megawatts of green.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005430Sila yung bahala maghahanap.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005431So, there are several options without risking our consumers.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005432Thank you, Mr.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005433In relation to Paxilica, the Secretary said that several renewable energy projects are scheduled for construction in Central Luzon.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005434So, what are these projects, Mr. Chair?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005435Yes, we can send you the list of those that are committed or indicative projects.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005436But these are not for Paxilica.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005437This is for the normal needs, the energy mix of the facility.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005438Philippines, without the data center, let's say.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005439And data center should be treated differently in a sense na dapat hindi niya kinakain yung kailangan ng mga tao.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005440Tama ko, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005441Dahil mahirap kong magsabi na kaya nating supplyan at maraming options,
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005442lalong-lalo na sa panahon ngayon na maraming beses na nagde-declare ng yellow at red alert sa iba't ibang bahagi ng ating bansa.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005443Kaya hindi lang nakakabigla, pero nakakabahala.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005444At sa ganitong mga dambuhalang proyekto, maraming options.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005445Pero yung para sa mga consumers natin, para sa karaniwang tao, ay kulang na kulang na kulang pa.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005446Yung mga kinakailangan natin na hindi lang option, pero yung guarantee na meron talaga silang supply ng kuryente.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005447Kaya pagdating sa ganitong mga proyekto, dapat talaga a priority natin yung pangangailangan ng sambayan ng Pilipino.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005448At hindi uunahin yung interest ng dayuhan.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005449At bilang panghuli na lang, Mr. Chair, I have a few seconds left.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005450Napag-aralan na ho ba ng DOE, ng ERC?
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005451Kumusta ho yung assessment natin sa implementation ng IPIRA sa 25 years po ng pagpapatupad nito?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005452I'll give it to Yusek Guevara.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005453She's written a book about this.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005454So, I'll let her explain her assessment.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005455Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005456Yusek Guevara, you're recognized.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005457Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005458Yung pong ating IPIRA journey for the last 25 years, nagkaroon po ng framework.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005459That is what IPIRA is.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005460Kasi sandamukal na mga policies ang nilabas pa ng DOE, ng ERC, etc.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005461Bago po nabuo lahat.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005462Sa paninaw po namin, yung pangangailangan ng IPIRA at that time, remember in the 90s?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005463Sandamukal ang blackout natin, ano?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005464Nasolve naman yung problem.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005465But then, nandun naman tayo ngayon sa energy transition.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005466So, the next 25 years ng IPIRA, kailangan natin i-address yung energy transition.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005467What is fortunate is that it is the policy of the department because of the renewable energy law
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005468to make sure that we increase our capacity for RE by 2030 to 35%, 50% by 2040.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005469So, on track.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005470So, on track.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005471So, on track po tayo dun sa mga plano natin na ma-achieve.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005472At nasolve po talaga natin yung mga madami sa problema na ina-attempt ng IPIRA.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005473Pero may natitira pa po.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005474Yes.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005475At ang pinakamalaking problema dyan, Mr. Chair, yung mahal talaga na singil sa kuryente.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005476At sa tingin po namin, very telling na po yung bilang ng complaints pa lang na natatanggap ng ERC pagdating dito.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005477Hindi lang humahal.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005478Marami pa pong mga concerns pagdating sa...
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005479Yung kakayahan mismo ng mga kababayan natin na magbayad ng mahal na singil sa kuryente.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005480Kaya ho, sana ang nasa pipeline ng mga dapat seryosohin ng kongresong ito at dapat suportahan din ng DOE,
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005481yung mga proposals na may kinalaman sa pagtatanggal, halimbawa, ng value-added tax sa kuryente.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005482Hindi lang po sa system loss, pero pagtatanggal ng VAT sa kuryente.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005483Kapag naabot na yung, kung may windfall profits,
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005484nakuha na natin yung...
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005485yung target collection, dapat naman ay magkaroon tayo ng aktibo na mga hakbang
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005486para maging hawan naman at may dagdag ho na relief sa ating mga kababayan
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005487na nakakaranas na rin ngayon ng sobrang-sobrang paghihirap
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005488dahil sa mahal na singil, hindi lang po sa kuryente, sa pagkain, sa langis.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005489Marami hong mga binabalikat na mga buwis ang ating mga kababayan
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005490at isang pagtatanggal sa VAT sa mga atiyak na hakbang na maaari hong makatulong sa kanila.
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago
asr-005491Yun lamang sa ngayon. Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005492Thank you, Kong Sara.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005493I totally agree with you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005494But, Ipira, I think we really have to amend it.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005495It's been like 25 years.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005496So, even the penalties, penalties natin, 50 million, ano ba yung 50 million yan,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005497increase it to 500 million.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005498So, there's so many things that we need to do
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005499para sa power industry.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005500Well, Mr. Chair, we'll work with Chairman Alvarez and...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005501Yes, and you're in good hands with Chairman Alvarez.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005502So, next interpulate from the majority,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005503Congressman Marlo Bancoro.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005504Sir, you have the floor.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005505Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005506Good afternoon, Sik Garin.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005507Good afternoon, DOE family.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005508Parang kailangan, Sir, Sik,
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005509yung...
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005510Kumusta na po yung update natin?
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005511Sa closure ng Malangas PNOCEC?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005512Para maka-recite si Adrian.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005513May President Adrian of PNOCEC.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005514PNOCEC.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005515Thank you.
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-005516Good afternoon, Mr. Chair.
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-005517Good afternoon, Kong Marlo.
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-005518Currently po, no, the decommissioning nung ating mina dun sa Samuanga, Sibugay,
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-005519covered by COC 41 is currently ongoing.
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-005520So, on track po tayo.
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-005521Sana by probably another year, we'll be able to finish it, no?
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-005522So, pagkatapos suno, it's an old COC, no?
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-005523It's expiring in 2030.
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-005524So, ano na rin ho yan?
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-005525So, eventually, pag na decommission na namin, na kumpleto namin,
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-005526ibabalik na namin sa DOE, i-re-relinquish na namin,
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-005527and then all the facilities will be turned over to the DOE.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005528Okay, thank you, Sir.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005529Ah, Sekretary?
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005530Ah, with that statement, ah, base ron sa napag-usapan natin,
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005531gagawa tayo, gumawa na tayo ng MUA
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005532para yung ibang properties marilis na at magkaroon ng title.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005533Ah, I went to the Secretary of DNR, Sekretary Kona,
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005534okay na siya sa MUA natin.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005535Ah, he's ready for the scheduled signing,
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005536and he's offering a schedule the last week of September.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005537Would be okay for you,
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005538Secretary, last week of September?
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005539Pupunta tayo sa lugar ko with
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005540Secretary Kona and then
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005541with the six mayors, we'll sign the [unclear], sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005564I'll just check the schedule, sir,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005565but we'll go there.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005566I hanap ko lang ng araw kasi alam ko...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005567Well, anyway, Sir, yes.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005568We'll work on it.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005569We will adjust naman, Sekretary.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005570Yes, sir.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005571Ma'am.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005572But, ah, basta...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005573But, ah, but, sir...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005574But we are ready for the signing already. Yes, sir.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005575We will adjust the schedule.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005576Ang sa amin lang na sana mabigyan ito ng priority kasi alam nyo,
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005577if mangyari ito, thousands of titles will be issued to individuals.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005578Yes, yes, Mr.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005579So, malaking impact on the government side, sa atin, sa Pangulo, sa administration, sa inyo,
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005580sa sekretary, sa DOH, sa RAS, DINR.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005581So, this is a very good project, big project.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005582So, sana bigyan ito ng malaking, ano?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005583Yes, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005584I can even sign it already, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005585Even wala pa yung schedule na signing nyo.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005586Mas maganda pong...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005587Ahead of time, if you want, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005588Mag-aroon na naman.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005589But we're ready for that, yes, sir.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005590Thank you, ma'am.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005591Okay.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005592Doon tayo sa national concerns, sa ERC.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005593Sir, tama po ba na ang complaint desk sa ERC, sa Mindanao, sa Dabao?
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005594Saka yung mga hearings, kung mayroon man, sa Dabao rin mangyari?
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005595For Mindanao, alon?
ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro
asr-005596Good afternoon, po.
ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro
asr-005597Attorney Leyla from the Consumer Affairs Service, po, and behalf of the chair.
ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro
asr-005598Yung mga sa DUS po, nasa Mindanao, doon din po igaganapin yung hearing.
ERC Consumer Affairs Service Acting Director Atty. Leila Grace A. San Pedro
asr-005599Similarly po, kung sa Visayas naman yung mga DUS or ACs, doon din po, sir, igaganapin.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005600Pwede ko ba, ang sekretary, mahalapan natin yung paraan para medyo maluwag
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005601kung dapat sa complaint?
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005602Kasi in our case, ang Dabao, travel by land, sa amin, is around more or less 10 hours.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005603So, yung complaint, sa gastos lang, eh, di na lang siya mag-complain.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005604So, wait, wait, for a while.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005605I suggest po, kung pwede, gawin natin regional.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005606Kung hindi talaga kaya, I would suggest na saka ganyan di euro.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005607Of course.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005608The handsome and good congressman of Gagayan de Oro will accommodate on that.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005609The golden friendship, city.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005610Kasi nasa centro po ang Gagayan de Oro.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005611Pero, I would prefer na every region.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005612Para may justice naman doon sa mga nag-complain.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005613Sobrang malayo po ang Dabao.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005614For an orderly proceeding, kindly address the question to the chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005615And need to be recognized.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005616Malapit lang.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005617Okay.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005618Thank you, Mr. Chair.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005619Before we adopted the online proceedings through video teleconferencing,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005620ganun po talaga ang aming ginagawa.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005621For any rate application or any petition affecting the consumers,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005622we conduct at least one hearing in the locality affected.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005623And for the consumer complaints,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005624dahil po ang aming...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005625ang aming satellite or field offices ay nasa sa Cebu lang at sa Dabao,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005626doon po nagkakaroon ang mga hearings.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005627And we do understand na mahirap talaga para doon sa ibang mga consumers
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005628ng iba't ibang mga co-ops in Mindanao or in the Visayas
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005629na magbibiyahi pa sila sa Mindanao, sa Dabao, or in the case of Visayas, sa Cebu.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005630Pero, noong nangyari po yung pandemic at nagkaroon na rin po ng rules,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005631ang ERC sa online hearings,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005632ngayon po ang default na hearings na namin,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005633both doon sa mga proceedings before the commission
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005634at kasama na yung mga consumer...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005635yung formal na consumer complaints,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005636ito po ay ginagawa na rin namin through video conferencing online.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005637Kaya kahit po nasa malayong lugar sa Mindanao,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005638yung consumer,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005639maaari na po siyang makapag-participate through this...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005640platform.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005641Ito na po yung default namin,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005642unless magkaroon nga din po ng request na magkaroon ng in-person na hearing.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005643Ito po ay sinusulat na namin dito sa 2026 na Rules of Practice and Procedure ng ERC
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005644nang sa ganun ay malinaw na po ito para sa lahat.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005645At hindi na po maging hadlang ang distansya
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005646para makapag-participate at makadulog sa atin ang ating mga consumers.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005647Sir, thank you very much.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005648Pero, may qualifications sabi mo eh.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005649Ito meron lang House of Christmas na magkaroon ng face to face.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005650So, parehas pa rin, malayo.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005651So,
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005652para makabundit natin
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005653kung hindi talaga kaya regional,
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005654ilagay
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005655natin sa Cagayan de Oro para nasa gitna.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005656Oo po, Mr. Chair, we will welcome that choice of venue,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005657Cagayan di Oro
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005658dahil,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005659I am also an
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005660unadapted son
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005661of
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005662Cagayan de Oro.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005663Kung amin namang pag-set ng mga regional hearings tulad ng consultations or kaya ay yung mga conduct ng aming CREST o yung continuing regulatory education seminars, ito po ay ginaganap namin hindi lang naman sa Cebu City at sa Davao City.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005664Kasi paminsan po ay nakakaroon kami sa mga ibang major cities lalo't may mga pasilidad sila para maka-accommodate ng mga magsisipagdalo sa aming mga public hearings or consultation.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005665At isa na nga doon yung napag-usapan natin recently ni Congressman Nagooc na maaaring magkaroon ng CREST doon sa malapit sa lugar niya sa Surigao or Agusan.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005666Sa ganon ay magkaroon din ng pagkakakamal.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005667Pagkakataon ang komisyon na makabisita doon sa iba't ibang lugar na mga consumer ay hindi karaniwan nakakaabot sa amin at makita din namin yung sitwasyon nila doon sa mga lugar nila po.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005668Mr. Chair, ang reason bakit gusto ko sa regional or magiging sa kagandi-oro na lang sa centro para ma-encourage natin yung mga complainant na idulog talaga kung ano yung problema.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005669Kasi pag malayo talaga, Mr. Chair, nawawala yung logic natin.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005670Nawawala yung purpose ng bakit tayo nagkaroon ng ganyang guidance.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005671So, I don't hope na it would be a commitment from you na kung hindi kaya regional, gawin natin sa kagandi-oro.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005672Opo, whenever we will have to conduct in-person hearings in the Mindanao area, we will of course prioritize having it in...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005673...kagandi-oro.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005674Of course, our budget for transportation permitting.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005675Walang qualification.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005676Kasi mahirap magkaroon ng qualification.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005677Dapat firm tayo.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005678Kasi we are serving the people.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005679I-material yung pera dyan pag sinabi natin magsiservisyo sa tao.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005680Kasi kung ganyan yung utak natin, hindi tayo nakakaservisyo.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005681Lahat nalang sasabihin nyo, wala kaming pera, wala kaming pera.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005682Hindi ganyan.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005683As a public servant.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005684Opo, we will study that.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005685How we will be able to fund.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005686Yung pong pagkakaroon ng hearing, napapabiyayihin natin yung ating staff from Mindanao, from Davao to kagandi-oro.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005687Makapag-hotel sila doon.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005688At doon magkaroon ng hearing at pabalik.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005689Dahil po, hindi ito nakasama doon sa aming programa.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005690Sa aming budget na pinanukala na 1.7%.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005691At sa aming budget na pinanukala na 1.7 billion, na naging 944 million.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005692Sorry, Madam, Mr. Chair, Madam Secretary.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005693Parang invasive man yung datingin ng ating ERC.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005694Nawawala na talaga yung servisyo natin dyan.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005695Kasi magiging dahilan yung ano natin, budget.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005696Ayun ang purpose na nandito tayo.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005697Anong purpose nandyan ka?
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005698Kung hindi ka, kaya mong tulungan sa bayan ng Pilipino.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005699Sila nagsiswildo sa inyo.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005700Opo.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005701Kung makakaya po namin bubiyahe, bubiyahe naman po talaga.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005702Kaya po, sir. Ang gusto ko. Firm.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005703Dr. Tanda Tila Bancoro, please wind up.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005704Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Marlo C. Bancoro
asr-005705Yan lang po. Salamat.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005706Thank you, Representative Bancoro.
Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara
asr-005707Now, from the minority, Representative Reneco, you are now recognized.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005708Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005709And good afternoon to the Department of Energy.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005710May several questions lang po tayo in relation sa, well, una po sa income tax holiday for renewable energy developers.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005711This is provided under RA 9513, kung saan the renewable energy sector can avail of tax incentives under the Renewable Energy Act
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005712through the securing of a certificate of endorsement by the DOE.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005713And ang pansin natin, kung titignan po talaga yung listahan, marami po siyang tax incentives.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005714This is for developers and manufacturers, fabricators and suppliers sa ilalim ng Renewable Energy Act,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005715whether that's for the first seven years, income tax holiday, 10 years of duty-free importation,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005716net operating loss carryover, NOLCO for seven taxable years, etc.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005717So, there are a lot.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005718Pero ang napapansin din naman po natin ay with every...
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005719approved and processing renewable energy project,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005720ay may mga magsasakat indigenous communities na naapektuhan sa pagtatayo nito.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005721So, kung amyandahan po ang batas at higpitan yung guidelines sa pag-issue ng certificate of endorsement para sa tax incentives,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005722para po makonsidera ang epekto ng displacement ng indigenous communities at iba pang mga residente
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005723ng itinatayong renewable energy project,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005724susuportahan po ba ito ng DOE?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005725Yung pag-insure na yung...
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005726Yung tax incentives na ito or kung ano man po yung benepisyo mapupuntahan nito ay maramdaman makita ng mga magsasaka at indigenous communities.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005727Mr. Chair, may we say the answer?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005728Thank you for that question.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005729Ang proseso po ng pagkuha ng service contract, marami pong requirements.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005730Isa sa requirement po niyan ay...
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005731At saka po dapat meron pong memorandum of agreement at saka CN na i-produce or CP na ibigay ang NCIP doon sa developer.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005732Hindi pa po siya nagko-construct.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005733Hihingi pa lang po siya ng service contract sa Department of Energy.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005734So, yung pong panukala na sinasuggest po ninyo, mukhang embedded na po talaga doon sa batas.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005735Kasi hindi siya makakakuha ng service contract.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005736Hindi siya makakapag-umpis.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005737Hanggat hindi niya na-fulfill po yung mga sinabi po ninyo.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005738Tapos, pagka nakakuha na siyang service contract, saka pa lang po...
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005739siya mag-uumpisa ng pre-development, tapos saka po yung magko-construct, tapos saka po magpo-produce.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005740Saka lang po siya pwede mag-benefit dun sa mga incentives under the Renewable Energy Act.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005741Siyempre po, naiintindihan natin na may mga guidelines yung pagkuhan ng FPIC
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005742and generally meron niyang range kung paano hinahandle ng mga developers, etc.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005743Pero ang punot-dulo din naman po, gusto natin mapagsilbihan systematically and through a framework level
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005744na yung madi-displace ay maramdaman makita yung benepisyo.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005745Lalo na po, mas marami pong mga reports na may mga ibat-ibang mga communities,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005746whether that's renewable project or hindi, pag na-displace, usually pinapaalis lang po sila.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005747So, I'm just asking po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005748Kung kaya pong i-consider ng DOE na kung may pag-amend ng batas para to ensure na kung anuman pong labas ng mga incentives na ito,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005749maka-benefisyo po yung ating mga indigenous communities, yung madi-displace po, if ever.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005750Mr. Chair?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005751Mr. Chair?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005752May we respond?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005753Yes, please.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005754Pag-aaralan po namin at sisiguruduhin namin na makonsider po yung mga suggestion niyo.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005755Thank you po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005756Thank you po, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005757Can I?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005758Ma-clarify po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005759Under po ba ng renewable energy projects na maaaring mabukas po ang waste to energy under the framework po ng Department of Energy right now?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005760May ongoing, Mr. Chair, may ongoing special auction for waste to energy ngayon.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005761Can I ask kung meron po bang existing partnerships with private institutions,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005762ang Department of Energy, or even, no?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005763Paano po nai-ensure ng Department of Energy na may gabay nila yung pag-develop at pag-aproba ng mga lumalapit na gustong magtayo ng waste to energy facilities dito?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005764Una po ang mga, Mr. Chair, may I?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005765Ang mga memorandum of agreement po namin ay doon sa mga local government units kasi kailangan po ng feedstock agreement between the private waste to energy developer at saka po yung LGU.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005766Kung saan man gagaling yung feedstock.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005767Yung pong pagkakaroon.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005768Kailangan po ng mga technologies na ito for waste to energy, kailangan po pumasa sa Department of Science and Technology para ikumpara sa world standards at saka sa batas po natin on Clean Air Act.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005769Tapos, kailangan din po silang payagan ng DNR bago po sila pwedeng magtayo ng waste to energy facility.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005770So, lahat po ng safeguards to make sure na hindi makakaharm sa environment at sa tao.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005771At sa community, kasama po yun sa waste to energy.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005772So, to my understanding po, may MOA, ang LGU, and developer. Tama po ba?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-005773Feedstock agreement po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005774Feedstock agreement. Ilan pong feedstock agreements na ang meron dito sa Pilipinas on waste to energy right now?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005775Well, the feedstock agreement is an initiative on both sides, actually.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005776Not on the part of DOE, pero if you want to develop a waste to energy project,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005777incumbent upon you to find feedstock.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005778Hindi pwede na sabihin mo lang sa amin na galing waste to energy dyan, pero hindi pala sa waste.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005779So, it's the responsibility of the developer, actually.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005780As we speak, I assume that the developers that are interested in joining the auction are already looking for disagreements.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005781Looped in po ba ang DOE, Mr. Chair, kapag may ganito pong agreements na gustong pasukin,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005782and eventually, ma-fafinalize?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005783It has always been an issue on waste to energy, yung feedstock.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005784Kaya wala pa nangyayari hanggang ngayon.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005785And that is why, that was why the law will help also, to make it more sustainable.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005786But, looped in in a sense, DOE looped in in disagreements, in a sense,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005787it is a requirement.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005788It is a requirement of DOE for, for them to pursue the project.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005789Responsibility nila yan, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005790Mr. Chair, kung meron po tayong list of current agreements, kung meron,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005791because even though wala pa tayo on an industrial level, because wala pa pong batas,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005792we are aware that may mga ilang WTE projects sa iba't ibang bahagi ng Pilipinas, modular nga lang po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005793So, is the DOE aware of these projects po ba? Dumadaan po ba yung information na ito?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005794Do you have?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005795Do you have records kung ilan na po ba siya sa Pilipinas?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005796No, we don't have any information.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005797We'll try to find which, whether it's through the LGUs or through DNR, we'll check if we can provide information.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005798Okay, thank you.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005799We look forward to that information, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005800But, I'd like to raise, Mr. Chair, because this is a study that was published in 2023 by PLOS Climate,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005801kung saan it was found that,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005802unfortunately, WTE incinerators in the USA emit more greenhouse gas emissions per unit of electricity produced.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005803So, there's 1,707 grams of carbon dioxide produced per kilowatt hour.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005804And it is the dirtiest among any other power source.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005805So, ang tanong ko po, Mr. Chair, ay this is included.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005806So, or classified under renewable energy.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005807Paano po natin mapangahawakan nun na pwede siyang renewable energy na may ganitong findings na dirty yung nilalabas niya
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005808kumpara sa iba pang mga sources of power?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005809And ano po bang plans ng DOE, if any, to reduce the emissions of greenhouse gases in WTE facilities?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005810Representative, kindly wind up.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005811Mr. Chair, it's waste to energy, technically, because the law says so.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005812Under the RE law, naka-include siya.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005813So, that's why it's classified as waste to energy.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005814Now, based on the studies, it's U.S. technology.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005815Then, we won't allow U.S. technology to be here if it's not compliant with our requirements here.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005816There are technologies in other countries that are even better, like Japan, Switzerland, even Singapore has that.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005817Even China has that.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005818So, marami pong available technology.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005819As explained earlier,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005820we are one of the most stringent in emissions.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005821We're stricter than Switzerland, actually.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005822So, we will follow the law in pursuing the technology that we want to be placed here.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005823So, we won't do it like the other countries excited in the article na sa U.S. na technology.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005824Then, we'll get other options because we won't allow poor or inefficient technologies here in the Philippines.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005825Okay.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005826As a final manifestation,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005827given that there are documented health and environmental concerns
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005828raised by residents near proposed WTE sites already actually here
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005829and elsewhere in the world,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005830I request the department to reconsider the classification of waste to energy under renewable energy.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005831The response I received so far was,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005832well, we can't help it.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005833Under the law, it is there.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005834But there are studies.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005835It's beyond the one that I just cited.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005836And I can also provide it to the department for its consideration and its study
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005837na mas marami pong health hazards, environmental hazards,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005838na bit-bit ang waste to energy,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005839na halos ma-defeat yung purpose, yung classifying it,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005840and yung pagtingin natin sa pag-invest in renewable energy
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005841na gusto naman po natin para po sa dulo ng ating framework.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005842So, that's the consideration po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005843Sana na maibukas na sa department.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005844Yes, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005845We cannot, unfortunately, we cannot reclassify it.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005846We don't have the mandate.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005847But should the good, honorable congresswoman propose it,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005848then we can join the discussion and the study.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005849Yes.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005850My time is up, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005851Thank you very much.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005852Who said your time is up?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005853The timer said my time is up.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005854Okay.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005855But if...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005856For the second round.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-005857Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005858Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005859So, next to interpolate from the majority,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005860Congressman John Sinise.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005861Are you here?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005862Wala.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005863Congressman Bong Tevez?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005864Wala.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005865Congressman Yusuf Alano?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005866Wala.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005867Congressman Artyap?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005868Wala nang babalik.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005869Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005870Congressman Rufus Rodriguez.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005871After five hours, you are recognized, sir.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005872Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005873On February 28, the Iran war erupted.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005874Fear pervaded the nation.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005875Supply of diesel and fuel.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005876The prices.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005877The how to deal and support the transport sector
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005878and the entire Filipino people.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005879I am here, the representative of the 2nd District of the NDO,
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005880together with my brother, the more handsome one,
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005881the congressman of Abante Mindanao,
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005882Party List.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005883What are you doing here?
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005884We are here.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005885Why we are here?
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005886Because we congratulate the Secretary of the Department of Energy.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005887Nothing of the fears became realities.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005888We had sufficient supply.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005889Thanks to Secretary Sharon Garin.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005890Agree.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005891We were able to contain the increases of fuel prices.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005892Through her, we were able to be able to provide fuel prices.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005893Through her, we were able to be able to provide fuel prices.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005894Through her, we were able to be able to provide fuel prices.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005895Through her, we were able to provide fuel prices.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005896Through her, we were able to be able to gather government resources
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005897Through her, we were able to be able to be able to be able to be able to give to the transport sector
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005898Through her, we were able to be able to be able to be able to give to the transport sector
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005899and the Filipino people.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005900That is why the Congressman Maxi Rodriguez, Jr.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005901and your representation here
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005902and your representation here
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005903are here not only to support the budget to the DOE
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005904but to increase the budget of the Department of Energy.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005905My question is how much is the increase you're asking?
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005906are asking? None.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005907Mr. Chair, we don't
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005908ask for an increase. We ask for
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005909ERC's increase, sir. We can manage.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005910Kailangan talaga
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005911we have a strong regulator.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-005912Yes, it's just
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005913220 million.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005914Are we talking about the ERC?
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005915Yes. Because it's a kagayanon.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005916Married to
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005917the daughter of my very
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005918good friend, congressman,
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005919city mayor,
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005920Tinex Araula, the daughter
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005921of Kasi Girl is here.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005922Please stand up and be recognized.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005923Stand up, stand up, please.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005924The sister-in-law.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005925So,
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005926our very
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005927outstanding ERC head
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005928because he is an
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005929expert. He has the figures
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005930on his fingertips
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005931on questions of
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005932energy.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005933Can you tell us how much you need?
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005934From you, personally.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005935From the department, sir.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005936Baka personal
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-005937yung hingin mo.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005938We have
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005939actually wrote the
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005940speaker
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005941asking for reconsideration
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005942if the unreleased
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005943amount from our proposed
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-0059442027 budget
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005945can be reinstated.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005946And, of course,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005947that would be,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005948more than 700 million.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005949But,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005950at the very least,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005951we pray and we plead
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005952that our
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005953budget for consulting services
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005954and the corresponding
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005955MOE for that
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005956to the tune of
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005957around 200
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005958million plus
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005959be reconsidered.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005960Because, right now, after
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005961more than 12 years,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005962that there were no,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005963no rate resets,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005964we have started deciding
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005965on the rate reset applications
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005966of our distribution utilities.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005967And we intend to finish
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005968the rate reset
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005969applications of
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005970all utilities
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005971in 2027.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005972And without this support, well,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005973it is
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005974now at risk, and
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005975and we will
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005976find it very very
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005977difficult to work within that
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005978time line that we set for ERC,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005979which is 2027, to
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005980complete all this, which will also
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005981support the President's call for the removal of the system loss
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005982because we would need our utilities to be able to operate more efficiently
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005983and they can only operate more efficiently if they'll be given also the appropriate rates
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-005984for them to be able to bring down also their system losses.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005985Thank you. Your request is approved according to the Chairman.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005986Now I go to our favorite, our Administrator of the National Electrification Administration,
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005987the brother of my best re-rector in the Bureau of Immigration, Danny Almeda,
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005988whom we know very well, served very well in the Bureau of Immigration.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-005989We have Danny Almeda. Who must be in it?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-005990Mr. Chair, we also wrote the Office of the Speaker.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-005991requesting for a $10 billion actually to cover the, to caution the effect of the program
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-005992on the elimination of the non-technical system loss amongst the electric cooperatives.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-005993Mr. Chair, I would like to manifest that if there's any that will be greatly affected
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-005994by the...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-005995elimination of the non-technical laws
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-005996and
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-005997so as the technical laws, these are the electric cooperatives.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-005998For the electric cooperatives' mandate is to extend the lines on the unserved and unviable
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-005999CTOs, and that will greatly contribute to the systems laws of the electric cooperatives.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006000However, we are determined to make good pronouncement of the president, but only so far as to the
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006001non-technical systems laws.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006002We have the energy family through the directive of the secretary.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006003I believe we have a good plan, a good plan to contain and eventually eliminate the non-technical
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006004systems laws.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006005Secretary Sharon, would you like to?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006006Yes, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006007Just for your information, Mr. Chair, we are actually scheduling a green energy auction,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006008especially for Mindanao.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006009And ah
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006010And that is a combination.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006011I think it's more or less with batteries, solar with batteries.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006012And I have to say that there is so much interest.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006013Marami po talagang gustong mag-invest sa renewable energy in Mindanao because they see the potential.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006014Merong study siya, and then they see it, even hydro.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006015What we need for Mindanao, even if we have so many power plants there, kung yung electrification
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006016and energization hindi pa rin maayos, baay hindi siya ganun ka-efficient, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006017And that is why I actually asked Nani already to prioritize Mindanao.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006018But if there's any additional available in the future, then it should be on energization
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006019of Mindanao, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006020And I'm sure you will be supportive of this.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006021And together with Transco, that will help also in the transmission.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006022Para gumandan na talaga siya, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006023Thank you.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006024Secretary Green, you are now an adopted son, daughter, daughter of Kageyan Lioro.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006025Thank you.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006026How about situ electrification?
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006027How much do you need?
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006028Ten billion, though.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006029Ten billion?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006030Ten billion, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006031Of the computation.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006032I have here the computation, 11 minus 2 is 8.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006033No, it's 8.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006034Can you give us the figures of what the NEP says and what you are doing?
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006035What are you requesting?
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006036The NEP granted us 5 billion and that is the same amount as last year.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006037That includes the photovoltaic mainstreaming, Mr. Chair.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006038I mean, honestly, I'm just more concerned about how to cushion the program implementation
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006039of the elimination of the non-technology service loss.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006040Because that will really...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006041greatly affect the operations of our electric cooperatives.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006042And as you well know, the electric cooperatives' tariff system is just on a cash flow methodology
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006043and they will not have any source of repayment.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006044And that would greatly affect their payment schedules on the GENCOs.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006045And we don't want that to happen.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006046Thank you.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006047But, Mr. Chairman, precisely, Nani, our administrator, had made sure...
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006048that there is CITIO electrification for Mindanao, because you have the lowest in Mindanao.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006049That's why we always support you, based on the figures.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006050Your proposal was 11.2 billion and you are only given for CITIO electrification projects 2.9.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006051So the total for reconsideration is 8.2.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006052Can you confirm, Administrator?
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006053I confirm, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006054Thank you.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006055So, again, the Chair says that is approved.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006056Thank you.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006057Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006058Noted.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006062Now, we have here, so we congratulate Nani.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006063Please always come to Coguilhende Oro and Morescu 1.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006064And we have a recommendation for appointment of the representative, Nonito Labis.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006065Please appoint him.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006066Thank you.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006067Now we go.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006068Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006069Thank you.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006070To our two colleagues, I want them to be able to speak today.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006071And what are their comments or the suggestions?
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006072First, we'd like to ask Coco.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006073No go.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006074And also Drales to speak to us, for our colleague.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-006075Mr. Chair, thank you very much for the honourable Congressman from Coguilhende Oro's support
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-006076for the energy family.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-006077The National Power Corporation is very happy with the submitted GAHA as filed.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-006078While we want to ask for more, we waive to the ERC because they need more support,
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-006079Mr. Chair.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006080Thank you.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006081That would be all, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006082Now, to go to Chikoy Alvarez.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006083I just have to remind you we are in the Nograles Hall.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006084I see. The more we should increase, whatever budget, Chikoy will ask.
Philippine National Oil Company President and CEO Franz Joseph George Alvarez
asr-006085Good afternoon. Good evening.
Philippine National Oil Company President and CEO Franz Joseph George Alvarez
asr-006086For PNOC, we don't have an additional budget.
Philippine National Oil Company President and CEO Franz Joseph George Alvarez
asr-006087We have approved the requested budget for the storage facility for next year.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006088Now, we go to the PNOC exploration.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006089Mr. Sugai, the brother of my good classmate.
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-006090Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Kong Rufus.
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-006091Now, we will not ask for any funds.
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-006092We have our own funds, and we defer, of course, to the secretary
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-006093and to the other members of the energy family for their funding needs.
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-006094And we thank the Honorable Congressman, my brother's very good friend,
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-006095for the support.
Philippine National Oil Company Exploration Corporation President Adrian Ferdinand Sugay
asr-006096Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Kong Rufus.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006097Thank you, President Sugai.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006098President de la Serna, what do you ask of this committee?
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-006099Mr. Chair, Congressman Rodriguez, the same as PNOCEC,
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-006100most of our budget is internally funded and by the WINGS.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-006101We are here to support the UEE ERC in their budgetary requirements.
PSALM President and CEO Dennis Edward de la Serna
asr-006102Mr. Chair, thank you.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006103Thank you very much.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006104Now, to our national transco, President Castillo.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006105Thank you, sir.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006106The same with PSOM and PNOC.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006107We don't have a budget request as our funds that come from the concession.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006108We just want to hear from you.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006109Thank you.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006110We thank you again for your support to the DOE family, and we welcome that, sir.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006111Mr. Chairman, any more agency has not spoken yet?
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006112Or lahat na?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006113Mr. Chair.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006114Doon sa kabila.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006115Secretary?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006116I think under the leadership of President Johnson,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006117Omar of Transco, he's scheduled to connect Basilan to Sabuanga, actually,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006118under initiative of Transco.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006119Just ano lang, para lang, we have good news for you.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006120Very good.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006121Thank you, Joseph, because our Muslim brothers are really asking for that for a long time.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006122Thank you.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006123On that note, Mr. Chairman, as I end my time,
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006124once again, let me reiterate.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006125First, you know, sometimes we forget functionality.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006126You know, we have a lot of people in our countries who saved us from calamities.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006127One is Secretary Garin.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006128Now nobody will thank her.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006129But we had no problems because of the leadership of Secretary Garin.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006130We have the supply, the prices are stabilizing, we have the support to the transport sector.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006131So, you know, sometimes we forget these things.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006132And we will not forget my brother, Maximo Rodriguez, a Bantim in the now.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006133That is why we are here to support Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006134Support not only for the budget.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006135Of the DOE, ERC, and all the agencies, but to increase their budget to the levels, maximum levels.
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez
asr-006136Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006137Thank you, Kong Rufus.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006138That is also the reason why I accepted to be the sponsor of the DOE family.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006139Napakagaling po nila.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006140And actually, wala pong gustong gumawa sa kanila.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006141At hindi ko rin pabaya ng kapatid ko.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006142I have to say, though, because Usec Sandy,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006143he handled the oil supply and the pricing, sila Mario and Gev handled it,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006144to avoid the increase on 12 pesos dapat yan eh.
DOE Undersecretary Mario Marasigan
asr-006145Yes.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006146Wimpy was the one going to the gas stations.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006147...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006148Joby, sila Yusef, all are Yusefs.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006149They all help.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006150And also, even the agencies, it was not as complicated because everybody knew what to do.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006151So, kudos to the whole team.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006152Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006153And with that, nagpalakpakan na kayo.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006154May magtatanong pa ba?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006155Yes, meron na po.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006156From the minority, we have Representative Edgar Ibise.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006157Sure.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006158Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006159From the good news to a not so good news.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006160Of course, I have to perform my job, provide check and balance.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006161Nung SONA po.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006162So, yung pinakamalakas na palakpakan kay Pangulo ay yung pagkatanggal ng systems loss.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006163Ang una ko pong katanungan, ito po ba ay input ng Department of Energy?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006164Sir, I think the question is whether we follow it or not.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006165No.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006166Whether it is an input.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006167Because I believe that every policy, major policy, should be…
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006168Meron po stop work.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006169Nakagawa po ba ng stop work dito ang DOE?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006170Sir, we have submitted several suggestions.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006171Included na rin yung system loss, but on system loss also.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006172Meron po kayong suggestion sa ating Pangulo na tanggalin ang systems loss.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006173On the VAT, sir.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006174On the VAT.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006175Yes, sir.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006176Ang pangako ng Pangulo ay the whole…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006177Correct, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006178There was discussion also of system loss.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006179On our side…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006180On our side, it's the VAT.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006181And then we also had discussions about system loss.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006182But we leave it to the Office of the President for the decision.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006183But, for example, merong figures.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006184May mga figures involved in, for example, in the decision to eliminate systems loss.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006185May figures po.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006186Nakakatapat yan.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006187Iyan po.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006188Aware po ba ang Pangulo kung ano yung mga mangyayari after eliminating the whole systems loss?
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006189Kahit na po yung ano lang.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006190Yung nakatapat.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006191Ang technical lang.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006192Huwag na natin pag-usapan yung technical systems loss.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006193We submit all documents, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006194But not all the discussion in the SONA.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006195It's something that's…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006196It's instructions to us.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006197So, hindi siya…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006198Yung ini-discuss muna namin and then we say, eto po ilagay ninyo.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006199It doesn't work like that.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006200It's more of the assessment of the Office of the President.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006201What should be our priority?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006202But rather…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006203It's not the other way around.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006204Na kami magsasabi, eto dapat priority.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006205So, I cannot really answer that, sir.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006206Sa stop work nyo, there's technical systems loss and non-technical.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006207Yes, sir.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006208We have a…
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006209At ang recommendation ngayon, malamang ito yung maging policy ng government, yung non-technical
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006210lang ang alisin.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006211Tama po ba?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006212The discussion, as we understand it from the directive and the further discussions to that,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006213it's…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006214We will really work hard to eliminate…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006215Eliminate both, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006216Yes, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006217If it's possible, then we will tell you, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006218The plan is that we will have the optimal distribution plan of each cooperative.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006219We will give them six months to make the preparation so that we can quantify the effort, the funding
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006220and everything, the time that we need.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006221We need…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006222They need about six months to finalize.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006223It's not an easy work for them to do.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006224For example, Metro Manila.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006225All the clients of Meralco.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006226Masyadong madali po yan dahil 5.6% yung kanilang systems loss.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006227Tama po?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006228Their non-technical is 1% and our…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006229It's very low.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006230Meralco actually has one of the lowest, but they're willing naman to lower it pa.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006231But we haven't finished…
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006232May pangako ang pangulo.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006233Alisin ang systems loss.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006234Yes, sir.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006235Meralco.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006236Will they comply with that?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006237We are…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006238I want to qualify.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006239I want to qualify the answer na hindi pa tapos yung usapan namin with the private.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006240Inuna namin yung electric co-ops kasi.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006241So, you said you have actually a meeting with all of them next week, tomorrow, to finalize
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006242kung ano yung guidelines.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006243Kasi iba yung guideline for electric co-ops.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006244They're in a different financial situation.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006245And then the private utility.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006246So, I cannot really commit right now kung ano yung finalize namin.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006247Sa aking pong pag-aaral, sa buong mundo, doon sa mga non-private…
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006248non-private…
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006249sa mga privatized power generation and distribution, lahat yan may systems loss.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006250So, ang ibig sabihin, kung mawawala yung systems loss, ang Pilipinas lang ang bansa na walang systems loss.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006251Tama po ba yan?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006252That will be the case, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006253So, right now, what we are more confident about is the non-technical.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006254Yan tatanggalin kami.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006255Kasi po, yung sustainability…
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006256napakalaking question yan, na hindi ko malaman kung saan kukunin yung technical systems loss.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006257At pagdating naman po, mas maliit na portion, sabi nyo nga, yung non-technical systems loss.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006258Kung sasagutin po yan ang gobyerno, ayuda po yan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006259Yes, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006260I think we would rather…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006261We are actually…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006262Ang kailangan kasi hindi yung gagastos tayo ng sobrang laki tapos yung beneficio.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006263Ikaw, ikaw…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006264Sisingilin mo lang naman.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006265At mas makikinabang po yan, yung mas malaki ang konsumo.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006266Yung mga mahihirap, mas maliit ang pakinabang dahil maliit lang yung kanila konsumo.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006267Yes, sir. We do understand.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006268So, we're treading carefully, making sure that our co-ops are steady.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006269Pero they make…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006270This is not business as usual for electric co-ops anymore.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006271Kailangan ayusin nila yung trabaho nila.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006272That private, I cannot commit yet kung ano pa yung plan, sir.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006273Because we're still working on it
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006274Very tricky po yan. Kasi imagine, for this budget, daming pinangako ni ating kaibigan na gusto nating matupad, pero ang ating fiscal space for capital outlay is only 16% of 7.2 trillion, 1.1 trillion.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006275Ngayon, yung mga new projects, kasama na po dyan, yung mga allocation per district ng mga congressmen, baka pag pinagbigyan kayo ni Chairman Rupus, baka mawalan kami ng mga projects.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006276Yes, sir. Mr. Chair.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006277Saan dyan pa rin po yung mga foreign-assisted projects? Parang sobrang sikip na eh. Hindi ko malaman kung saan kukunin. For example, 10 billion for systems law, saan kukunin yun?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006278Yes, Mr. Chair. We don't understand.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006279But we will work out that we will not ask for additional budget, sir. We'll find a way na para ma-fundingan yung improvements sa mga electric co-ops natin. And Mr. Guevara wants to add something, sir.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006280Opo. Pero, hindi. Nangunawaan ko na po. Okay na po. Ang pangalawang tanong ko. So, itong taon na to, hindi matutupad yung pangako ng Pangulo na matatanggal ang systems laws.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006281Partial lang, sir. Baka our target really is like before the next summer.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006282So, now we will finish this, sir.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006283Before the next summer. Okay. Thank you.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006284So, pagdating naman po sa nung nakaraan po, let me congratulate you dahil talaga naman hindi tayo nagkaroon ng kakulangan sa supply ng diesel. Pero iyan pong crisis sa Middle East, ano yan eh, anytime pwedeng bumalik eh. Wala pong katapusan yan.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006285Hindi pang nawawala at pwede pang lumubha.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006286Ang karamihan po ng mga bansa na hindi masyadong naapektuhan in terms of prices, yung may malalaking reserve. At least diesel. Kasi po, pinakamalaking pangakailangan natin, diesel. Ilan po ba ang reserve natin for, sa ngayon, yung capacity ng reserve natin for diesel. At least for diesel lang.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006287Yan ang pinakamahalaga sa akin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006288If you indulge me lang.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006289If you can indulge me.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006290We actually created, formulated a fuel transition plan. Because, you're correct, we cannot be dependent on imported fuel. We are 100% dependent on that. Well, 99%. So, our plan is by 2040, bawasan natin ang 50% yan. And how do we get there? We have several plans. There are several components, electric vehicles, more exploration, electrification of our appliances.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006291Lahat-lahat po, we're working on that. And in addition to that, we need reserves in the country. Unfortunately, our storage facilities are private. Ginagamit lang natin yung binibilang natin. When we tell you in the news there's 50 days, it's in the private facilities.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006292PNOC, headed by President Chico Alvarez, is setting up, and hopefully within this term, we can set up 1 billion barrels.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006293Enough for 1 million barrels.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006294The storage facility na government-owned. Para over time, we increase and increase. It is true that we are protected if we have reserves. Kasi I think it was Yusek Sandy who told me that having reserves not only protects you from the unpredictability or volatility of whatever war there is in the rest of the world, it also shields us, it affects our growth.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006295Kasi nasi-shield tayo sa currency exchange, sa volatility of the price. So malaki talaga yung advantage sa atin pag meron tayo. So we're working on it already.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006296Yes, I do understand. Pero sa ngayon po, ilan yung capacity natin, whether public or private storage?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-00629747?
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-00629847 million?
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-00629947 days, which is about how many?
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-00630047 days which would be about how many million liters?
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-006301That would be about...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006302Just a figure.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-006303This one.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006304Give an estimate.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006305About 2.7 billion liters.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006306But that includes yung mga private na owners. Kasi sila, ano naman sila, 15 days lang ang kanilang...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006307Kasama.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006308Yung private, 15 days lang ang nire-reserve nila. Kasi syempre, yung kapital, tama.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006309Okay. Recognize. Sino ba?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006310Go ahead
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-006311Lahat po ng storage ngayon, private. Kasi ang industry po natin, deregulate.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006312I mean yung mga oil distributors. Kasi meron talaga na private na nagpaparenta lang.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006313Thank you for the last question.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006314Pero meron naman na mga private companies, meron silang mga estasyon ng gasolina.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006315Yung kanilang, ang sinasabi nila, ang kanilang kapatid,
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-00631615 days lang na reserve. Kasi hindi nila kaya yung kapital.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006317Kindly answer the last question
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-006318Yes. When we quote yung, actually, total country volume po yun, yung regional na storage, tama po, hindi ganong kalalaki.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-006319Ang kinu-quote natin yung entire country storage volume.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006320Okay. Thank you.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006321Just one follow-up.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006322Okay. I will allow you.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006323Hindi ba pwedeng magkaroon tayo ng target na within government control?
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006324For example, si Alvarez, meron siyang 1 million, public owned.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006325Pero dapat meron tayong target na kahit privately owned, pero exclusive yung ownership ng Philippine government dun sa reserve.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006326Para sa ganon, hindi tayo nakadepende sa presyo ng mga private companies.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-006327Mr. Chair, yes. Yes, kasama po yan ng planning. In terms of the strategic petroleum reserve, kailangan merong regional distribution din.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-006328Kasi nakikita rin natin yung importance ng regional distribution. And kung ano ang i-store natin, kung crude oil, diesel, gasoline, anong proportion?
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006329Ngayon po, ilan yung reserve natin?
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006330Government?
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006331Government controlled
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006332That's going to be the last?
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006333Yes.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006334Pwede pa tayo mag-second round, boss?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006335Last.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006336Ano yung reserve na talagang within the control of the government?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006337Okay. That's the second last question.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-006338Yung 5 days po na nabili ni PNOC, naka-store po ngayon sa isang private storage.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-0063395 days.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006340Okay. Thank you.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-006341Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006342But sir, we can have a second round.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006343Huwag naman.
Rep. Edgar R. Erice
asr-006344Masaya na.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006345Masaya ka na?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006346So next to interpellate
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006347From the majority, Congressman Art Yap, my idol, sir.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006348Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006349Kanina po pagpasok ko, hindi ko alam kung doon ako uupo dito.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006350Kasi puro congressman rin po doon eh.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006351Diba?
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006352Nahanap ko yung...
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006353Ito yung si Chico yung daw.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006354Ha?
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006355Si Chico yung...
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006356O, isang congressman.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006357Si Chico yung daw gusto mong salita.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006358Isa pa.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006359Si Nani Almeda, congressman rin po yan eh.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006360O.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006361At hinahanap ko po yung ano, yung the better Fuentebella
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006362May sakit.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006363May sakit.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006364Ah.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006365Ah.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006366Hindi.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006367Yung takeaway ko po sa...
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006368Sa ano?
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006369Sa proceedings this...
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006370Today is...
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006371Very much ano naman, pro-active yung DOE at they believe in the power of solar energy.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006372In fact, Yusek Guevara...
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006373He mentioned that.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006374And I'd like to congratulate and thank Secretary Sharon Garin for releasing the Circular on Zero Export Renewable Solar System.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006375Thank you very much, ma'am po.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006376But in the same way, may tanong lang po ako doon.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006377As much as we are now advocating for solar power, dahil ang positive noon, we hope that it will lower consumer cost.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006378Ano po ang mangyayari doon sa stranded cost ng mga...
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006379Na mga distribution utilities.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006380Kasi syempre, nanguntrata po sila for a certain capacity.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006381And in their areas, pag bumababa na po yung requirement doon sa power, then papano po yung stranded cost?
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006382Hindi pa po pwedeng sabihin natin sa ERC, Madam Secretary, na i-review po yung mga ano.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006383At pwede po nilang ano...
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006384Can I please ask Chairman Juan that?
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006385Mr. Chairman?
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006386Posible kaya yun na pag-review nyo, tanggayin nyo po yung stranded cost ng mga distribution utilities.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006387Kindly use the other mic now, siguro, if it's not functioning.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006388Pakiayos yung mic
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006389...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006390Yeah, let's...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006391Siguro siya sabi lang nung ano, be concise and brief sa answer mo.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006392The situation will be akin to the current implementation of the ARCOA,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006393where we have actually advised our distribution...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006394utilities entering power supply contracts
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006395to include in their power supply agreements a carve-out provision.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006396Also, if there are no carve-out provisions,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006397and the distribution utilities will be left with excess contracted capacities,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006398if the distribution utilities will be able to unload or renegotiate with their suppliers
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006399so that they can have a lowering of the contracted volume,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006400or unload these excess contracted volumes,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006401to an affiliate RES,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006402so that it will be the RES that will be selling this contracted capacity,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006403or for these distribution utilities to participate in WESM
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006404by offloading these excess contracted capacities in the WESM.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006405But, Chairman, pag hindi po pumayag yung providers,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006406wala na po pang recourse ang distribution utilities?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006407Because, Sir, ang issue dito, Chairman, is
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006408we always hear the words in the hearings,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006409non-impairment, non-impairment.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006410But, pag hindi po natin gagawin yung police power,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006411hindi po natin gagamitin yun, the police power of the state,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006412to lift and to suspend these so-called non-impairment of contracts,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006413then, yung stranded cost na po yun,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006414i-charge rin po sa lahat ng consumers na maiiwi,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006415So, in the one hand, pinopromote po natin sila mag-solar power.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006416Pagkatapos, yung stranded cost,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006417maiiwan doon sa mga consumers that do not have the ability
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006418to procure and to buy their solar power systems.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006419Mataas pa rin yung singil sa kanila.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006420At ang sabi po, eh, non-impairment po eh.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006421But, if we will continue to reason that way,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006422then the effects, the positive effects of disruptive technologies
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006423will never be, will never be, will never be,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006424will never be, will never be, will never be,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006425will never be enjoyed by the people.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006426We will look into that, Mr. Chair.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006427Although, for PSAs that were contracted after the CSP policy of the DOE
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006428and after we issued the CSP rules in 2023,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006429we've already prescribed a template for a PSA
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006430where there's an automatic carve-out provision.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006431So, kung ang magiging stranded capacities na lang
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006432ay yung mga hindi na-cover nito mga bagong PSAs,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006433na walang carve-out,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006434we will look into how we will be able to assist the distribution utilities
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006435para ma-offload nila itong kontratang ito
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006436at hindi naman ma-apekto ang remaining captive customers niya.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006437Thank you, Chairman.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006438And you may want to refer to the Supreme Court case,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006439yung NDC versus Philippine Veterans Bank
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006440because narecognize po doon na yung sinasabing sanctity
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006441of non-impairment,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006442pwede po natin i-override yun.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006443If the impact is so embedded in public welfare,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006444pwede po natin gawin yun.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006445Yung issue rin po sa systems loss,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006446napag-usapan po natin,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006447sabi po ni Madam Secretary at least,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006448yung mga non-technical systems loss will automatically be,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006449ah,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006450will solve that problem within one year po.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006451Pero,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006452may existing policy po yung National Electrification Administration
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006453na yung mga distribution utilities are required doon sa sityo electrification
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006454that they have to keep on increasing
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006455yung pag-electrify sa mga sityos.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006456Posible kaya,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006457tanong ko sa Department of Energy ito
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006458or sa NEA,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006459pwede kayang ma-suspend yun?
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006460Dahil,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006461kung yung mga distribution utilities,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006462ipapagpatuloy po natin yung challenge sa kanila,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006463yung pressure na you keep on electrifying all of those sityos,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006464aakyat rin po yung technical systems losses.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006465So,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006466yung sinasabing yung bababa yung non-technical,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006467pero aakyat naman yung technical
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006468dahil puro tayo patayin ang patayin ng sityo electrification,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006469eh di,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006470the right hand,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006471is taking away what the left hand is giving out.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006472Yes, sir.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006473Can you pass the mic, please? Sorry.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006474Mr. Chair, yes, with all the developments surrounding the electric coffee industry,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006475as in fact, about 30 minutes ago, pinag-uusapan namin ni Congressman Dago,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006476to give it further study that we, instead of extension, line extension of the city electrification,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006477only unserviceable and unviable, baka pwede namin i-substitute na lang ng photovoltaic beam streaming
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006478because it might not really be worthwhile to extend the lines for city electrification
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006479if it would just add up to the technical systems loss.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006480And we will do.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006481We will do a rundown, a study on those pending programs in NEA,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006482and we will check and we will do a simulation of whether or not it would be better
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006483just to provide a solar home system rather than line extension
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-006484to arrest the increase of the technical systems loss.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006485Salamat po, Congressman Aloneta.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006486At yung...
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006487sa ancillary charges po, ito lang po sa ERC.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006488Yung ancillary charges po natin, Chairman Juan, Mr. Chairman, Madam Secretary,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006489hindi ba masyadong mahal po ito?
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006490Like 60% of our transmission charges are ancillary charges.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006491When this can be brought down to only about 10 or 15%,
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006492ang laki-laki na binabayad po sa ancillary charges.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006493Hindi po pinag-uusapan yun?
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006494Hindi po po pwedeng maibaba po yun?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006495Okay, thank you for the last question.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006496Opo, yung pong pinagkukuna ng NGCP na ancillary services,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006497dalawa po kasi yun, through ASPA o yung kontrata or through the reserve market.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006498Yung through ASPA, ito po ay dumadaan sa CSP and sa approval ng ERC.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006499So, stable yung presyo dyan pagdating sa mga contracted volumes.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006500Ang hindi matiyak ay yung presyohan sa reserve market dahil this is market-based
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006501and ang existing offer cap dyan sa reserve market ay 25 pesos per kilowatt hour.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006502At ang nakikita natin, meron nga po kaming pending na proposal sa ERC
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006503dahil nakikita rin natin na parang napakataas yung lumalabas ng presyo sa reserve market
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006504at initially ang pinag-propose nga namin ay,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006505iba ba ito to 9 pesos from 25 to 9 pesos.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006506So, pinag-aaralan na lang namin yung mga sinubmit na comments and yung mga inputs
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006507during the public consultation and we will soon decide on this.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006508And hopefully, kung magkakaroon na ng ibang offer cap na which will be lower than the existing,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006509it will help temper yung pricing in the reserve market.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006510And at the same time, it will also signify na yung mga ibang may,
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006511may capacity na pwedeng pang ancillary ay i-offer na lang nila ito sa NGCP
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006512under the contract markets through the ASPA
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006513and mag-participate sila sa mga CSP yung ipapatawag ng NGCP.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006514Madam Secretary and to the entire DOE family, we wish you the best of luck.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006515Congress is here to support all of you.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006516From what I hear, you have a lot of realistic and exciting possible solutions.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006517So, the challenge is to see it through.
Rep. Arthur C. Yap
asr-006518So, thank you to all the resource people.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006519Thank you, Congressman.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006520Hearing that from you, former Cabinet Secretary, former Governor, Congressman,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006521it's a big compliment for the DOE family.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006522Thank you, boss.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006523Next, to interpolate from the majority.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006524Before that, I would like to acknowledge the presence of our Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006525Congresswoman.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006526Mika Suansing.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006527Thank you, ma'am, for being here.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006528So, next to interpellate is Congressman Javi.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006529Mr. Chair, Madam Secretary.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006530Yes, thank you so much.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006531Alam ko mahabang araw.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006532So, I'd like to start with thanking Secretary Guerin and the whole DOE.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006533Nakikita po natin na household electrification is now at 94.93%, di ba?
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006534And collected since 2022, in July, we are 3.3 million homes.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006535No?
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006546So, that's a great feat.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006547And during the energy emergency, nagita po natin, the department had 1,847 megawatts online.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006548And especially sa ka-region po namin, sa Sikihore, it's a 24-hour power back.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006549So, congratulations, Madam Secretary and the whole team.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006550Gusto ko rin i-commend ang napakagaling na at matapang nating Administrator Almeda ng NEA,
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006551na accounts 91 cooperatives rated at AAA.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006552May 154,000 solar home systems on the way. So, congratulations po.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006553I'm not sure kung na-tanong po ito kanina, pero gusto kong i-clear po yung nangyari sa May 13,
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006554about sa Tower 17, na may corroded na insulators.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006555Yung repairs kasi was never finished, if I'm not mistaken.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006556And then, millions paid for that delay.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006557First po, in darkness, sa ating mga kababayan.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006558So, four months on, wala pa yatang case ang na-file.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006559Is that correct?
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006560So, I wanted to ask, clearly, if failure in repair, which is a known defect,
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006561which is in one of our country's most critical corridor, no?
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006562Is that a violation of NGCP's concession obligations?
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006563And has the department formally referred this matter to the ERC, Madam Secretary?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006564Yes, that was critical, but the regulation is under ERC.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006565And I think the discipline of the stakeholders is under the ERC.
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-006566Yes, Mr. Chair, we will look into that incident involving that tower,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-006567and we'll check if that has affected NGCP's performance, reliability performance,
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno
asr-006568and we will act accordingly.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006569Okay.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006570Mr. Chair, ito kasi sa Das Marinas, Elysia, na 500 kilowatt line na na-trip.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006571But, thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006572I'd like to go on to something that's sa amin, sa Negro Simpanay.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006573Madam Secretary, it's from Iloilo.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006574I'm sure you know what I'm going to, but Negro Simpanay only carries 90 megawatts.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006575And now that there's 68 billion in Cebu-Negros-Panay backbone that was finished in 2024,
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006576and I want to credit the administration and department for that.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006577But line 2, I think, still remains unapproved, if that's correct.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006578And just days ago, we were able to see that ERC pushed for the Amlan-Dumaguete line
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006579back to March 2027.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006580So, sa amin po, nag-host po kami ng about 500 megawatts of renewable power.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006581Pero, 3 out of every 4 megawatts of renewable power,
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-0065824 kilowatt hours we consume, still comes outside of our island.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006583So, we generate clean power, we export it, and ang nangyayari po sa amin,
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006584we import ang expensive na kuryente.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006585So, gusto ko lang po itanong, meron bang timeline na pagfunding sa line 2
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006586and the final CNP approval?
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006587And I just want to share na, specifically po sa aming distrito, Mr. Chair,
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006588kasi ang challenges po namin, ang daming renewable energy projects na pumapasok,
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006589which we're very happy.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006590Kailangan ng pag-process mas smooth, mas mabilis.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006591Pero, yung kailangan po namin, Cebu-Negro submarine cable.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006592And number 2, yung sa upgrading ng Granada 230 KV A-line.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006593And then, yung estimates po natin, there's about 1,300 megawatts projects sa Negros,
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006594highly to enter 2030.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006595Pero, ang problema is, meron po tayong post-potential curtailment risks,
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006596which is about most likely 10%.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006597Ito po na rin sa Luzon, that there are about 20% to 30% curtailments na.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006598So, we'd like to hear your answer, Madam Secretary.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006599Mr. Chair, unfortunately, how the pace that we're going,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006600generation seems faster than transmission.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006601But I leave it to President Jomar to answer the two issues,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006602the CNP, I think that's Cebu-Negro-Spanay, and then the…
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006603Please go ahead, Mr. Chair.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006604Thank you, Mr. Chair.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006605To respond, the…
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006606The Granada KV substation line is part of the priority projects listed by the department.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006607So, we are working with NGCP on how they can fast-track and complete that project as soon as possible.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006608For the CNP line, I think you're correct, it's set for 2027.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006609We continue to monitor the TDP as committed by NGCP.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006610In fact, currently, we are in consultation with them.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006611The DOE will also have a session on the TDP of NGCP.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006612So, next week.
National Transmission Corporation President and CEO Atty. Joseph Omar A. Castillo
asr-006613So, we can report back to you on that, on the status of those projects.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006614Mr. Chair, please, dahil ang na-delay na po ito eh, from dapat 2030,
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006615ang projected 2034, and sayang po yung mga potential projects sa amin.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006616Actually, may mga pumapasok pa, pero kung hindi kaya ng transmission,
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006617mukhang may curtailment na naman na iakit.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006618Mr. Chair, gusto ko lang itanong siguro kung magkano po ba yung profits ng NGCP?
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006619Ano ba yung pwede nilang, kasi alam ko may mga dividends din yan.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006620Hindi yata nag-pull through ang dapat na board seats ng Maharlika.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006621Ano po yung, Madam Secretary, pwede ba natin i-fast-track?
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006622Or baka pwedeng mas maaga yung upgrades na po ito?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006623Mr. Chair, before I answer the question, Mr. Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006624that's why we're pushing also for more, like 50 megawatts of batteries in Negros.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006625Para i-store pag umaga kasi sobra yung power ninyo.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006626So i-store siya para pag gabi, then you can use it.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006627So that could be one solution alternative because fortunately,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006628or unfortunately, Negros Island doesn't want any fossil-based power.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006629On the part of, ano yun, yung profit of NGCP,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006630NGCP,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006631it's a work in progress.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006632But they do have, reportedly though, reportedly, if I'm not mistaken,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006633this was based in last year's research,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006634they reportedly have dividends of 20 billion a year on average.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006635And so I cannot tell you what the exact profit of that,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006636but that's a dividends and it shows.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006637That there is 20 billion at the very minimum in NGCP.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006638Now, for their performance,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006639ERC has the power to regulate.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006640DOE can issue the policies that concerns them.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006641But I think, Mr. Chair, if Congress is willing to do so, the legislative,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006642the powers of the committee and then the Permitting Energy Committee on Franchise
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006643and also the Joint Committee on Energy also has the power to regulate that.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006644So it would, if we have a request concerning NGCP,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006645I think that would be the better avenue if the Congress can review their performance
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006646on the franchise that is given to them.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006647Thank you, Madam Secretary and Mr. Chair.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006648One last question before I close.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006649Rigo, ano yung?
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006654AI and tech, you mentioned that, nandun din po sa inyong presentation.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006655Ano po yung bago niyong ginagawa sa DOE na makakatulong para sa inyong departamento?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006656Thank you for asking because this is one of our most exciting projects.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006657Now, with us here, is Yusek Sasa.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006658She's new to the DOE but she's helping us in full automation of DOE.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006659From DBM, yeah.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006660Sa ano na.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006661Na pirate.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006662Yusek Sasa.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006663Nakita ko sa TV po kanina.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006664I'll press.
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006665Alright, Mr. Chair, for the Department of Energy, as you know, one of the marching orders of the Secretary is to automate and make the stakeholders' lives easier with respect to their dealing with the DOE.
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006666So, we're setting up a digital front.
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006667door for stakeholders and with the EVOS and all of the foreign investors and other companies that are interacting with the department.
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006668Apart from that, we are making the data consolidated so under a regulatory standpoint, DOE will be able to have a grasp of all the data that we have so we can properly analyze.
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006669Determine patterns and anomalies in all of the scope or the mandates of the department.
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006670And not just that, Mr. Chair, we are also integrating with NEA and ERC and other attached agencies of the department so we are able to do a very robust data sharing platform.
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006671So, right now, in 2026, we have 350 million.
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006672We have 250 million budget to set up the infrastructure to put it all together in centralized.
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006673way and and in 2027 um a large chunk of our budget proposal will be to scale up um because we have um
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006674a two-year deadline it's like uh told me to finish everything within two years so we have to
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006675um make everything fast um and we are engaging a lot of stakeholders not just internally in doee
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006676but also we're getting user stories from from our stakeholders or the users from other from from
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006677the energy company so we are able to make their lives easier like we're using artificial
DBM Undersecretary Maria Francesca M. Del Rosario
asr-006678intelligence to um to make their submissions um you know more seamless thank you so mr chair
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006679before i yield i'd like to ask the secretary if we can
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006680have a few commitments.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006681One is, can we get a root cause analysis report of the May 13 line, doon po sa 500 kilovolt?
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006682And then a year-by-year table of NGCP's dividends across the construction spending nila.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006683And yung third, please, yung sa Line 2 and CNP approval po ng ating NGCP lines sa Negros, dahil tinututukan po natin ’yan.
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006684and to end i'd like just to say that the world bank says that if we fix the grid open the market
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006685our families could
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006686pay up to 30% less for power. So iyan po yung ating hope. I'd like to manifest that I also
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006687agree with the increase of the budget of the Department of Energy at 25-something percent dahil
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006688energy should be a top priority po sa ating bansa. So
Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez
asr-006689Maraming salamat po, Mr. Chair. I defer.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006690deliver uh within uh yes within the week thank you thank you
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006691yampong congressman
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006692namin na guapo
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006693binata
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006694uh
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006695atiba pa
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006696okay so
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006697next uh for the second round
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006698we have from the minority
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006699uh congressman
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006700you have 20 minutes
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006701pa uwi na si
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006702sekretary
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006703most of my
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006704concerns uh
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006705second round are
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006706more on recommendations
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006707uh first of all
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006708for the record uh uh on our
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006709Mr. Chair, I would like to put on record that the special provisions on the relocation of
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006710poles, which we allow in the 2026 GAA, is no longer found in the 2027 NIP.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006711So I am requesting, Mr. Chair, that that should be rectified in the proper time.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006712Let us go back to that, because DPWH and NIA already have funds that can be transferred,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006713but they are not in the NIP's special provision now.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006714In the proper time, you are the sponsor.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006715Remember that.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006716Yes, noted.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006717Balikan natin.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006718ComSec, paki-note na.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006719Pag hindi nangyari, kasalanan mo ha.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006720Pangalawa po, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006721Narinig ko kanina na may request ang
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006722ERC doon sa rectification nung mga
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006723na-reduce na budget nila. Alam naman po natin gaano
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006724kahalaga yung mga request na 'yon, lalong-lalo na sa ERC.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006725We are all affected pagka
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006726nagkaroon ng delay yung approval ng PSA, magkaroon ng EPSA.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006727Ay, naku.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006728Kaya ayun,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006729nineteen pesos per kilowatt hour,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006730twenty pesos.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-00673120 pesos. So, tulungan naman po sana ng committee yung ERC. Kaya nga doon sa ERC
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006732strengthening, nilagyan natin ng provision na 50% doon sa mga peace and
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006733charges na kulikta nila, ititira sa kanila. Kaso, nasa Senate pa po yung
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006734usapan. So, while we are waiting for that measure to be passed into law, sana
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006735tulungan ng committee yung request ng NEA at saka ng department o at ang
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006736Energy Regulatory Commission. Kandi presiding chair and chair mismo, sure
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006737natutulungan natin yung dalawa, may balik yung man lang yung kahit portion
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006738doon sa nawala na budget nila na proposal. ERC at saka NEA, mga
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006739important people.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006740Yes, actually as the sponsor.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006741Talagang tutulungan ko talaga. But it will go through the process. Through BARC and
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006742even sa EXICOM and even sa plenary. So, it's not really up to us. But if you're
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006743asking for my commitment, I'm very committed to help the DOE family.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006744So, commitment ng committee, hindi lang commitment ng...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006745Yes, yes. You have to go through the process. Kung ako lang po yung gagawa,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006746baboto, di tapos na yung usapan. But it will have to go through the process.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006747Because the fiscal space now is very tight. So, we have to see, we have to balance it.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006748So, may process po tayo. BARC, it's a budget, amendment, review subcommittee, yung mga small
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006749committees, wala na po yan. Naka-streamline po yan. Kaya nga po siya sabi namin sa inyo,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006750lahat ng hinihinin nyo, i-address yun na kay Speaker Bojidi through Chairperson Mika
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006751Swan Singh. Because sa BARC po, hindi kami nagdi-discuss, naglalagay, nag-insert o
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006752nag-amend kung wala nag-eminate sa agency. Okay? Kaya pinapasulat na namin po kayo.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006753And we decide as a whole. And plus, dadaan pa po yan sa EXICOM, sa committee, sa
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006754appropriation. Magdi-decide pa po yun. And after that, dadaan pa po sa plenary.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006755It's the body who will decide. But to fight it out, yung mga kailangan nyo, I'm committed
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006756to fight it out. Dahil alam ko kailangan nyo. And you are performing. That's why I'm
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006757accepted to be the sponsor of the DOE family. And even lalo na ERC. Because in the time
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006758of crisis, nakita po namin yung galaw nyo. Napakahirap po noon. Kung wala po kayo, baka
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006759mas bagsak na ang bayan po natin. So whatever you need, we will fight it out. But you have
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006760to understand the situation of the fiscal space ng ating budget po ngayon.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006761Thank you for the comment.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006762Thank you for the comment, Mr. President. Andami nating inuutos kasi sa NIA, sa ERC,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006763sa DOE. Pero parang kulab tayo. Baka matapyasan yung mga plan-plan-plan control na yan. Kasi
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006764lahat tayo apiktado dito sa agency na to. So doon sa kanina nakagip na issue ko, Mr.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006765Chair.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006766I appeal to the Secretary to seriously consider the amendment of the CSP. Yung sabi ko kanina,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006767to avoid yung mataas na nodal price, baka magkaroon ng right of first refusal. Yung ano, nandoon
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006768na ba?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006769Tapos na?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006770In fact, we...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006771Nag-re-propose pa lang? Tapos na, ma'am?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006772No, he's been telling me that for four years already.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006773Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006774Tapos na pa lang.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006775Okay.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006776And then also, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006777Yung ano, yung pinakamalapit preference to pinakamalapit na planta sa CSP.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006778Kasi doon mayuwasan natin yung mga nodal na mataas. May I ask, Chair Neno, di ba ancillary, regulated natin yung ancillary?
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006779For the ASPAS, yes, Mr. Chair. The contract. But for the reserve market, the one that we approved was the...
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-006780The price determination methodology based on the WESM rules.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006781Ito kasi ang issue ko diyan, ngayon lang nag-MLD kami sa Mindanao. Kaya nag-plucked with yung si Argao tatlong bisis. Yung mga Amerikano doon, nag-re-reklamo na naman.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006782Yung pala, nag-MLD na si Aniko, Tinmiga, ganon-ganon. So, can we account? Can we require NGCP? Ano-ano ba yung mga planta na under sa ASPA?
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006783Gusto ko malaman kung talagang may nagawa yung binabayaran natin na ancillary. Kasi in layman's understanding, ay back-up yun.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006784Kung may generator ako sa bahay, nagbayad ako ng operator kahit naka-standby lang. Tapos nawala yung ano ko sa distribution utility ko. Hindi pala maka-under yung generator ko. E di wala silbi. Nagbayad tayo ng ancillary. Pero nag-manual or dropping pa rin tayo.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006785Saan yung binabayaran natin na back-up kung magkaroon tayo ng interruption? So, gusto nating i-account yan, Mr. Chair. Napakahalaga po yung usaping ito.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006786We need to require the system operator to account. Sino solo yung mga planta na naka-ASPA? Tapos saan yung location? Saan ginagamit?
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006787Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006788In a situation na nagkaroon ng mga post-outages yung mga beast load natin, nagamit ba talaga yung mga planta na yun? Otherwise, nagbabayad tayo ng isang planta tatlong beses.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006789Baka yung isang planta na yan, Mr. Chair, 100 mega. Ang bilateral lang 80. Bininta nila ngayon sa ASPA yung 10. Tapos yung 10 bininta sa reserve market.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006790Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006791Baka yung isang planta, ginamit na beast load, ginamit na ancillary. So, medyo kailangan nating i-account yan. Although, additional na trabaho ito ng ERC. Pero, NGCP is a regulated entity. Yung nangulikta niyan.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006792Tingnan natin, mayroon ba talagang nagamit na ancillary every time na sinisingil tayo ng ancillary services charge?
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006793Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006794Kasi 22% na ngayon yung patong from the previous billing period. Lumubo na ng 30% plus ngayon sa August na billing period. But still, may yellow, may red alert, may manual load dropping pa rin tayo. Sana gamit yung binayaran natin na backup na ancillary.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006795Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006796Then, finally, doon sa sityo electrification, ako po yung nababahala. Bilang isang dating lineman, alam ko po kung ano yung standard na systems laws sa isang rural area served by an electric cooperative. Based on the standard ng US, na doon natin kinupya tong rural electrification program ng Pilipinas, 12% po yan.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006797Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006798Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006799Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006800Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006801Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006802Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006803Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006804Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006805Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006806Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006807Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006808Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006809Okay.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006817If the NIA will agree, baka po pwedeng para lang nasa special provision sakaan natin, na anytime the NIA will decide to do this, the NIA can drop a special provision.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006818Now, kung saka-sakali, after evaluation ng NIA, mas favorable pa economically and technically.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006819Now, instead of extending the line, ay lagyan na lang natin ng solar doon, panel, lagyan natin ng battery storage na equivalent doon sa requirement nung sitio na yan, o yung bayan na yan, atuturuan natin, itrain natin na mag-operate sila, without extending the line, nagkaroon din tayo ng sitio electrification program.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006820That is a very practical solution.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006821Yes.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006822Mr. Chair, yung area ninyo, area namin, Eastern Samar, ay doon po dumadaan ang bagyo, pero nakita ko po sa NIP, 200 million pa rin yung iserp, 200 million pa rin yung iserp.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006823So, I think NIA should, again, request the speaker, the leadership, na dagdagan yan, kasi pag nag-transforce, libre na nga yung mga line money, pero yung pagkain na Manila doon,
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006824So, napakaliit po yung 200 million, dalawang bagyo lang yun, tapos na po.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006825So, if the NIA will agree on my proposal, pwede nasing maglagyan doon in the proper time yung special provision na the NIA may opt to use new technology instead of extending the line in the case of sitio electrification.
Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc
asr-006826Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006827Agree.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006828Agree.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006829Yun lang.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006830Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006831Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006832Thank you sa Congressman Dagoog.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006833Ma'am, last term na po ni Congressman Dagoog.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006834So, kung kailangan nyo sa NIA, kahit saan, energy family, mapapakinabangan nyo po yan.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006835No, we will miss them, boss.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006836I salute you, actually.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006837Yeah.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006838Ma'am?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006839Yeah.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006849I salute you, actually.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006850Yeah, ma’am?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006851Yeah, just for the last,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006852just to wrap up the...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006853Ayun, ah, meron pa, mamaya na lang.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006854Okay, thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006855So, for the second round,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006856we have Congressman Tinio.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-006857Sir, you have the floor.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006858Thank you, Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006859Last, kanina I asked
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006860for a status report on yung
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006861direct purchase ng DOE for diesel
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006862at the height of the energy crisis.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006863Sabi, nandiyan pa pero partly
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006864binigay sa NAPOCOR.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006865Baka pwedeng mapakinggan lang natin.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006866Nakita ko ang kasamahan natin,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006867si former Congressman Coco,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006868now President of NAPOCOR.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006869Ano pong nangyari doon sa
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006870binili ninyo? Tama ba?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006871Binili ba? At anong presyo?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006872Etcetera.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006887Mr. Chair, when we purchased diesel na ginagamit ng Napocor ang diesel sa mga isla niya, they were affected. They would be directly affected. Iaakit yung presyo doon ng electricity.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006888So, as a directive, I gave PNOC the authority to sell it to Napocor for generation of electricity at a preferential rate para hindi naman mag-suffer yung mga taga-isla natin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006889And that worked with them for a while. I think about, siguro kung mga 80 yung presyo, 60 pesos ba yung binigay.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006890At a loss naman na binigay.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006891Binenta ng PNOC. But I think that's a sacrifice that we were willing to do para hindi naman mag-suffer yung mga consumers ng isla.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006892So, actually, itong magkatabi pala yung nag-deal. PNOC to Napocor, correct?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006893PNOC is easy. Hindi pala, siko.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006894Okay. President Nograles, ibig ba sabihin nito?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006895Nakamura sa kuryente yung pagbili ng diesel from PNOC easy?
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-006896Thank you, Mr. Chair, for the question. Opo, nakamura po sa kuryente dahil yung pagbili po ng Napocor sa PNOC easy ay mas mura po sa mga current suppliers ng Napocor.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-006897Ang impact po niyan ay hindi po malaki yung strain sa UCME na napupunta.
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-006898Doon sa mga consumers.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006899And how much was purchased by Napocor?
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-006900Umiiba po yung presyo dahil dynamic po yung pricing.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006901From PNOC?
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-006902Opo, umiiba po yung presyo but all in all yung na-drawdown po namin sa PNOC easy is 27 million liters.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-00690327 million liters?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006904Opo.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006905Okay. So, yan yung para sa mga diesel.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006906Ano na po ba yung mga?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006907Sa Napocor plants niyo pa?
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-006908Nag-serve po yan doon sa aming mga diesel power plants sa mga isla, sa missionary electrification areas. So, doon po sa mga areas na yun.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006909Yung mga barges? Is that it?
NAPOCOR President and CEO Jericho Jonas B. Nograles
asr-006910Mostly mga small generators po. Sub 500 kilowatts.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006911Okay. Sige. Anyway, I asked for a report on that. Thank you po.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006912Ang sunod na mga tanong ko.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006913Actually, this has to do with the Luzon Economic Corridor.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006914And makita namin sa website ng U.S. Embassy, meron silang mga announcements about energy-related projects na actually parang mas narinig pa natin ito sa U.S. Embassy kaysa sa Philippine government.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006915So, kaya gusto natin marinig yung direkta sa gobyerno natin.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006916So, yan nakalagay dito.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006917That yung mga involvement daw ng U.S. in one, nuclear, two, in yung mga fuel pipeline, hydro, and so on and so forth.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006918So, with regard to nuclear energy, binanggit po dito yung 1-2-3 agreement.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006919At saka may mga pinupondohan ng U.S. like an SMR feasibility study, a nuclear reactor control room study.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006920Simulator, study tour for Philippine legislators on nuclear, and so on and so forth.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006921Nandiyan po.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006922Alam ko po si Sec. Garin, when she was still U.S. Sec., was closely involved with the 1-2-3 agreement.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006923So, pwede po bang makapagbigay kayo ng updates and ano ba talaga ang status ng mga...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006924nuclear energy sa plano ng Pilipinas?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006925Thank you, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006926Actually, the activity, the nuclear-related activities mentioned here, that's not necessarily just because of the Luzon Economic Corridor.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006927We've been doing this for a long time already.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006928Some of the studies, like feasibility study, are done with private entities.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006929So, wala kami dyan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006930They talk directly to the types of Miralco, or I don't know if they talk to Aboitis and all the other companies.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006931Sila kasi interested din sa nuclear.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006932But some of these activities, yes, we do the simulator.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006933We're trying to lock that in.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006934Also, the trade mission, we do that every year.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006935Not only with the U.S., but all the other countries.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006936So, tama naman yung marami dito, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006937Now, what is the status of nuclear?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006938Nuclear is, currently, we already have a roadmap.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006939But, unfortunately, our original roadmap was based on SMR, which could have entailed shorter construction.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006940Pero ngayon, parang it seems like limited yung options on SMR.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006941And maybe we'll go for conventional.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006942But that's something that we have to study further.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006943But our target is still steady.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006944We want nuclear energy by...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006945The next decade.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006946It will take time, depending on where it will be.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006947So, kumpleto na po yan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006948We are complying with the international requirements on safety, security, and safeguards.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006949At that, training ng tao, supply chain assess, evaluation, legal, international cooperation.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006950Everything else, we're trying to complete.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006951And, in fact, we have been reviewed by IAEA na pumasa na kami sa...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006952Ano ba?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006953In your mission.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006954In year two, ba?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006955In year two.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006956So, papunta na tayo sa...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006957Pag pumasa tayo sa next level, pwede na tayo mag-construct.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006958What's lacking now is the regulatory on the safety, which is the fill atom na pinasa natin last year.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006959It has to be organized and the IRR has to be issued.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006960So, once that's there, I think the interested parties can already apply na sa fill atom.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006961And sa amin kasi, it's more on energy lang.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006962Pero the safety.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006963The technology has to go through rigorous evaluation through fill atom.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006964So, ang nasa plano ng DOE initially is SMR.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006965Pero ngayon sinasabi nyo, baka hindi na SMR conventional.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006966It depends, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006967It depends on the appetite of the investor.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006968Kasi wala namang...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006969Let's just say, I'll give you a ballpark of how much it will cost.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006970Pag conventional, mga 10 billion dollars.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006971Pag SMR, mga 4 billion.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006972Malaki pa rin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006973Billion.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006974Billion dollars.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006975So, it's still big.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006976So, you need enough funding.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006977And I don't think government, even in a regular power plant, di naman tayo yung nag-invest.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006978Private na money.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006979So, we will rely solely on the decision of the private.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006980Sa funding, mostly.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006981Yung 10 billion and 4 billion.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006982Yung 10 billion, US yung provider.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006983No, no, no.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006984It's an average.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006985All the technologies, yes.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006986Kino-consider nyo rin ba yung China as a provider?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006987We actually invited China for our next forum.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006988So, we can talk to them what's to offer.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006989We're just exploring so we would know what are the technologies available and how much it will cost.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006990So, Korea, China, Japan, Canada, US.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-006991France, those are the main players right now.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006992Okay.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006993Dito po sa, again, US Embassy site, meron daw Energy Secure Philippines program with 24 million dollars funding,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006994which includes upgrading power systems at military installations, deploying backup power solutions,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006995and investing in microgrids and energy storage.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006996Involved po ba kayo dito?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-00699724 million.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-006998Nabanggit siyo kayo?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-00699924 million.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007000Kanina sa Visayas, nag-deploy kayo ng energy storage.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007001Is this part of it?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007002These are, if I understand correctly, Mr. Chair, these are mostly technical assistance.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007003Mga, they study, we ask them to study something and then, yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007004So, involved kayo dito?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007005Ang simulator ng US kasama dyan.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007006Okay.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007007Itong Energy Secure Philippines program, are you involved in this as well?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007008Maybe Yusef Kebara can explain for you.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007009Yes, Yusef Kebara.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007010Through the USAID.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007011Yes.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007012Of our office.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007013It used to be a USAID, but now it's under the US Department of State.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007014They have hired consultants for this program.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007015Tapos po yung project na yan, hindi lang po DOE ang kasama magde-benefit,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007016pati po yung other government agencies like DENR at saka DOST.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007017So, yung pong nakalista dyan, kunyari yung simulator, mahal po yun.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007018Malaki po dun sa 24 million dollars ang magagastos doon.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007019Tapos yung pong sinasabi niya na for emergency, yun po yung aming emergency system na pinapadala sa mga areas pagkatapos ng bagyo
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007020or doon sa areas na walang kuryente na na-mention kanina na part ng budget po namin for next year.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007021Ano yung pinapadala nyo? Could you give more details?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007022It looks like a container van na merong solar panels na lumalaking ganyan,
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007023tapos may batteries pusa siya sa loob.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007024So, magpo-provide po siya ng power.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007025How much power?
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-00702610 kilowatts and higher po.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007027Okay.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007028Binanggit din dito, sub-eclart fuel pipeline.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007029And let me expand to yung fuel storage.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007030Sabi kanina, yung binili ng PNOC is stored in commercial facilities kasi wala naman ng gobyerno.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007031Tama po.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007032Mr. Chair, we can review the documents.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007033Some of these are not really that accurate because...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007034Ha, ganyan pa ba?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007035Fair or wrong to you?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007036Fake news or parang gano'n, kinokontest mo yung mga ina-announce ng U.S. Embassy?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007037Mostly are studies. Most are studies.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007038These are not actually infrastructure or capital outlay.
DOE Undersecretary Rowena Cristina L. Guevara
asr-007039Mga studies, most of these things.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007040Okay. Well, kaya nga po, ito sinasabi ng gobyerno ng U.S. sa Pilipinas.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007041Sa U.S. Embassy, ngayon medyo kinokontest nyo.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007042So, importante.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007043Bansa natin ito eh. Ano ba talaga?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007044So, please clarify.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007045Please provide yung mga information on...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007046Yung clarification nyo, please provide in writing.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007047Pero yung sa fuel storage.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007048So, concerned po natin.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007049Yung pinakamalaking facility yung nasa Subic, tama po ba?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007050Yung coastal, fuel coastal.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007051Philippine Coastal Storage and Pipeline Corporation.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007052But it is owned by a U.S. investment firm, I Squared Capital, correct?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007053Yes, yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007054So, hindi pag-aari ng Pilipinas.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007055Okay. And so, 20% of our fuel storage is there. Tama?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007056Yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007057Okay. Pag-aari ng Amerikano.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007058No.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007059And...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007060Kaya nga, importante yung usapin ng...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007061But five minutes ka pa ulit.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007062Ah, wow. Talaga.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007063Sige, matatapos na po tayo, Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007064Sige po.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007065You were saying?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007066Yes, Mr. Chair. It has been bought by an American company.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007067Okay.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007068Okay. And...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007069Yung facility sa Subic...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007070I mean, it's a commercial facility. So, lahat pwedeng gumamit.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007071Including the U.S. Navy, for example, correct?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007072I assume so, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007073Okay. And then, the U.S. also announced through their embassy
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007074na mayroon naman silang planong magtayo sa Davao Gulf
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007075a fuel depo... I mean, mangontrata ng one million barrel fuel storage facility
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007076or depo.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007077Tama rin po.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007078We have not been informed officially, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007079You have not been informed. Although, it's already on the U.S. State Department website.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007080We don't monitor their website.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007081Pero, Mr. Chair...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007082So, hindi nyo alam. Pero, would you be involved in any way in this?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007083Or is this purely a commercial transaction?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007084Any project that would bring energy and fuel will have to go through us for permit, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007085Ang punto po ay...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007086Um...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007087Of course, the Philippines has a finite number...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007088I mean, capacity for fuel storage.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007089Tapos, may mga pangangailangan tayo.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007090At the same time, mayroon tayong defense agreements
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007091which allow the United States to...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007092In fact, yun ang plano nila.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007093Mag-expand ng fuel storage, hindi lang sa Subic, kung hindi ngayon, pati sa Davao Gulf.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007094So, ano pa ang gagawin ng DOE to ensure that ang aral ng gera sa Iran ay kailangan meron tayong strategic reserve na, diba?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007095Pero, itong hindi pag-aari ng Pilipinas yung mga fuel storage facilities.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007096Okay. Thank you for that last question.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007097Please answer.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007098Mr. Chair, that's why we are...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007099pushing for our own strategic reserve our own infrastructure for that which is being done by
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007100pnoc and hopefully they can finish in a year and a half for the construction mr chair we start with
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0071011 million barrels and then scale it up they need about 8 billion they'll use their corporate funds
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007102for that so uh now it's not just the u.s that is approaching the philippines for storage or even
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007103for refinery we have had meetings with japanese kuwaiti uh uae uh saudi several several countries
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007104are actually looking at the philippines already uh u.s actually we haven't met officially of any
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007105with any u.s company as of yet uh but right now i would assure you that it's not just u.s that's
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007106looking in the Philippines, it's many countries.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007106-split-2Thank you, um, you can have your third round if
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007107you
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007108want
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007109Ah, yes. Thank you, Chair. [unclear] Pahingi na lang po ng mga written na [unclear] report, for example from the PNOC, yung kanina pa in my earlier interpellation. Yes na lang po. Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007109-split-2But if you want the third round, continue. I will give it to you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007110So, next to interpellate, Congressman Espares. You are recognized.
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007111for this short interpellation um before my short question and uh manifestation of course uh i would
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007112like to express my support not to the budget of the doa especially the secretary is from my region
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007113so from elilo now mr chair um i don't know i think nia or any other agency who could
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007114answer my query and some clarification and of course request now this is about on the
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007115uh distribute distribution um entity okay your electric coops your distribution um i have
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007116encountered a lot of provinces by this time because my concern is more on the establishment
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007117of cooperatives especially post-harvest facilities now we are um proposing and
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007118requinding with them the use of the solar power because these are rice mills these are cold
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007119storages um this is exposed to the current but then i learned a lot especially minduro
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007120uh our electric coops there don't want to install or they're not capable
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007121for the
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007122the net metering so sayang naman yung may tapon na mga uh electric power or electricity
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007123sa sa araw kasi minsan ah diba hindi naman sabihin natin na ah straight yan for ah ah
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007124all the time no minsan nahihinto din sila so what will happen to the excess so kung
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007125may net metering yun more or less ah makabawas pa yan sa kanilang billing so malaking bagay
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007126kasi una una mga ma malaking facility to so hindi mo pwede ilagyan lang ito ng medyong
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007127maliliit liit no plus of course will benefit dito yung mga residential dyan sa area na
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007128capable for
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007129the insulation of the solar power so again i would like to request kong anong distribution
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007130facility or anong tawag yan anong entity like electric coops or any other ah operator
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007131na kung ilan ba ang capable na for the net metering so ilan ba sila ngayon ang okay
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007132we'll make a report if we can come up with it but uh uh mr chair we will uh we reinforce the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007133uh information campaign to the electric cost para malaman nila na may net metering na and
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007134it's just a matter of educating the capacity building nila
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007135mr chair what the agency could do pag alam nila na isang area na na may nag-operate ng
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007136distributor company na hanggang ngayon wala pa silang capability to
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007137install the net metering gadget or di ba meter lang naman papalitan wala naman silang
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007138in general naman most of the deus and the electric cooperatives can can accommodate
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007139net metering
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007140but if there's any violation or in kappa and these are capable then we will report it to
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007141NEA for NEA to take action, Mr. Chair
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007141-split-2okay thank you so again uh from NEA siguro can you can i get
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007142the list kong anong mga uh operator pa ang hindi pa capable for the net metering
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007143i i was just kind of surprised because uh the net metering is a national policy as issued by the
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007144DOE, so let me just check on the sites that you mentioned
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007144-split-2Topic lang yung experience
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007145'Yung experience ko, Mr. Chair, doon sa Oriental Mindoro.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007146Yes. Um, actually tama si Congressman [unclear]. Kaya ako po nahihirapan sa metering. So, we will submit.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007147We'll submit that to you. One or two sa [unclear].
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007148Parang two. [unclear] two. So,
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007149Ang tanong ninyo, Mr. Chair,
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007150anong gawin ng agency?
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007165So, hindi pa rin sila nag-implement.
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007166Dahil kung walang regulatory body dito na mag-force sa kanila,
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007167so, on their own choice,
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007168pabayaan na lang nila.
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007169So, kawawa naman yung gusto mag-avail.
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007170The question is, what can you do?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007171Yes, Mr. Chair.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007172NEA and ERC has the authority to reprimand or penalize.
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007173Will there be a...
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007174Mr. Chair, will there be a...
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007175Maybe a...
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007176Ano na lang?
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007177Ang written report.
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007178Sige, malaman natin yan pag umabas yung report.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007179Write a written complaint, sir, para ma-action po nila.
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007180Okay.
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007181But then, I need the report, Mr. Chair, as requested.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007182Yes, you are directed to submit.
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007183Thank you.
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007184Yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Felimon M. Espares
asr-007185Mr. Chair, thank you very much for this opportunity.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007186Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007187And before I recognize for the third round,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007188I would like to recognize SDS Dinan Hernandez,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007189your sponsor before,
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007190but now he's a senior deputy.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007191He's a senior deputy speaker.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007192Yeah.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007193Ay, di mo yan magtatanong sponsor niyo tapos tatanong.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007194Representative Dina Siso
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007195and Representative Munir Arbisan, Jr.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007196Thank you, sir.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007197Welcome.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007198For the third round, last, I'll give you two minutes.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007199Congressman Tino, kumakain ka pa?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007200Kain di swallow your food?
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007201Thank you, Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007202Thank you, Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007203Chair,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007204Importante po yung sinabi kanina ng DOE na
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007205yung mga paayag ng U.S. Embassy sa kanilang website
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007206tungkol sa energy plants,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007207parang sa kanila, sa kanilang intindi,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007208hindi eksaktong ganun, di ba?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007209So, in the same way that the BCDA issued a public clarification,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007210kasi ang announcement ng U.S. Embassy sa kanilang website din,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007211na yung Paxilica daw will have joint governance
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007212sa itatayo nilang HAB,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007213na ang ibig sabihin ay hindi ihilalang batas ng Pilipinas
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007214kung hindi batas ng U.S., parang ganun, di ba?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007215Diplomatic immunity and so on.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007216So, ang inihiling lang po natin ay mag-issue din ng public clarification,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007217hanggating DOE, no?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007218To set the record straight, no?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007219Kasi kung may sinasabi ang U.S. na may kinalaman sa,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007220you know, whether it's nuclear power or the Subiclark pipeline,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007221and so on and so forth,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007222na sinasabi nyo, hindi naman exactly ganun yan.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007223Kailangan lang po maglinaw.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007224So, yun po inihihin natin na makapag-issue ng clarificatory statement,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007225as needed, ang sarili nating gobyerno sa sarili nating bansa.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007226Okay po ba yun?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007227Yes, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007228Before you answer, can I yield the chair to...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007229Yes, yes, Dilan.
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007230Yes, sir.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007231So, Chair, I reiterate my request to the...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007232Yes, Mr. Chair, we'll do the assessment and we'll make clarifications if...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007233Thank you. Thank you to the Secretary.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007234Hanggan do na lang po ako, Mr. Chair. Thank you po.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007235Thank you.
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007236I don't think there's any more interpolators.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007237If there's no interpolators, can we just mention the asks of our...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007238It's not exactly a... It's just a small notation.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007239Chair, dahil total. O, isa na lang po.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007240Okay.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007241Magtanong daw sa PNOC, eh.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007242Chair, ano na ang status ng...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007243Recto Bank.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007244You know, alam... May kinalaman pa kayo doon?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007245Ah, wala rin.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007246No, pero tatanong ko pa rin sa DOE in general.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007247Alam naman natin, napakahalaga ng malampaya.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007248It still supplies something like, isn't it, 25% of the Luzon grid or something like that.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007249Pero alam din naman natin, kahit may bagong mga wells, pero ilang taon na rin lang yan.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007250And then now we will have to depend on...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007251Expensive LNG imports.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007252In the meantime, nandun yung Recto Bank.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007253So, ah...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007254Ang alam natin, nakaabang lang yung private, ah...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007255Contractor, service provider.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007256Para ma-export to.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007257So, what is the status? Anong plano?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007258Bakit walang galaw dito?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007259At involved din ba ang DOE?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007260Sa sinasabi ng Pangulo, na magkakaroon daw ng joint...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007261Some sort of joint development of energy resources in the West Philippine Sea.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007262Go ahead, Yusef.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007263Go ahead. Thank you.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007264With regard sa West Philippine Sea, actually, sa DOE, ang tawag natin dyan,
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007265Northwest, offshore Northwest Palawan.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007266Para mas...
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007267Mas malapit sa atin.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007268Offshore Northwest.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007269Pero in particular, yung tinatawag po nating Recto Bank o RID Bank, okay?
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007270May service contract po ngayon dyan.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007271And normally, ang commercial, the way its partnership works is,
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007272may service contractor nakikipag-farm in yung potential partner dyan.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007273Ang primary law dyan is that any exploration...
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007274ng oil and gas, kailangan may service contract from the government.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007275And I think, yun lang ating single basis for having any joint activity.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007276It has to fall under our service contract system.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007277Thank you, Yusef.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007278Napakagaling nung sumagot habang may hawak pa kayong hamburger.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007279I don't know.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007280Yes.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007281Napakagaling mo.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007282Yes, Chair.
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007283May existing service contract, it's still...
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007284May pa rin yun, tama po ba?
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007285Ang alam ko ngayon, ang ginagawa ng Department of Energy with service contracts,
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio
asr-007286sa renewable, for example, pagka hindi ini-implement, kinaka-cancel nyo, diba?
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007287Magka-iba po yung batas at patakaran.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007288Under...
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007289Sa ngayon kasi, we must all admit na it is a bigger issue in terms of geopolitical conditions
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007290surrounding yung...
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007291And of course, ngayon, although may service contract po tayo dyan, there is a moratorium
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007292on working on that area because of the larger issues involved.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007293Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007294Thank you.
DOE Undersecretary Alessandro O. Sales
asr-007295Thank you.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007296I think that's the last question.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007297Parang ganon.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007298Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007299Thank you for the last question.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007300Thank you, Chair.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007301Okay.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007302So, since there are no more interpollators, I would like to recognize Chairman...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007303Ma'am, you have the floor.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007304Thank you very much.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007305Kong Arnie, our vice chairperson who will be sponsoring the budget of DOE and all of the
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007306attached agencies and ERC.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007307So, Siguro Po, a sec.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007308I just wanted to echo.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007309I've been discussing with Kong Arnie for the past 30 minutes to an hour.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007310And really, we have nothing but commendation to the DOE family, the ERC.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007311We've been discussing a lot since we last saw you in the last budget deliberations.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007312A lot has been done by the DOE family.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007313I mean, local, in terms of disaster response, a lot has happened, different parts of the
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007314country.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007315Of course, the response to the Middle East crisis.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007316So, so much has happened.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007317And last year, you know, we have full support.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007318I'm trying to...
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007319It's very technical.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007320I keep on forgetting what...
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007321It's the seismic survey, the grad geometry and seismic survey, which Sec.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007322Sherrod advocated for last year.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007323We gave it, and hopefully, it will be of use.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007324po ng DOE.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007325Yes po. So,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007326magsastart na po yung
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007327implementation because SEC was
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007328really adamant in saying
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007329that that's super
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007330important, diba, in terms of ROI.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007331Sabi ni SEC Sharon, ang laki
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007332ng return on investment on
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007333that. So, we're looking forward po, SEC,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007334to see how that
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007335would pan out now that it's been
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007336bidded out. And, yun po
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007337talaga, we have
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007338no words. Kausap ko po si
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007339SEC Sharon kanina. I see her
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007340on TV at like 7 in the morning
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007341doing interviews and
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007342then she was all over the place
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007343meeting with everyone
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007344with the President, of course,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007345to bridge the deficit
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007346in terms of the fuel needs
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007347of the country, energy
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007348needs. So,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007349as echoed by a lot
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007350of our colleagues here in the House,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007351we are in full support
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007352of the DOE family
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007353and the ERC family in terms
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007354of the funding requirements.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007355Kanina po, I was asking
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007356SEC and, Sek, I'll just
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007357ask the same question here again, as well
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007358as kay Sharon Nino.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007359Whichever
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007360items, if there are
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007361items, if there are programs
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007362and projects that were
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007363not funded in the NEP, if there
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007364are any of these po that you would like
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007365to advocate for, again,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007366as mentioned by Vice Chair
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007367Arnie, for consideration of
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007368the Budget Amendments Review Subcommittee,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007369I'll open the floor
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007370po to Sek Sharon and to
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007371Chair Nino to
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007372bring it up to us. It's been
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007373discussed at length. Narinig ko na rin
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007374po yan, especially kay Kong Serge
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007375with all the special provisions
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007376na hinihiling nyo rin po
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007377on behalf of the ERC family. So,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007378Sek, Sek Sharon,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007379Chair Nino, I'll open the floor
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007380for those
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007381wish lists.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007382Most of these items are not
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007383actually, it won't involve any
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007384funding, but number one
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007385is we
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007386were hoping to give
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007387electric vehicles more push so that
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007388we're less dependent on diesel. So,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007389we're submitting like a general provision
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007390para po
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007391sa procurement ng
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007392mga government offices
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007393on electric vehicles
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007394and make it easier and hopefully
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007395they follow it.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007396And then the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007397special provision
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007398on the use of
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-0073995%
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007400para mapabilis
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007401ang mga audit nila,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007402ang pag-implement ng project
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007403because we're really fast-tracking.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007404Si PNOC
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007405mother is
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007406for their, na i-provide
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007407lang sana that they can
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007408reserve the 8 billion in their corporate
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007409funds. This won't involve
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007410any
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007411funding, pero
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007412allow lang sila na magamit yung 8 billion.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007413Para makonstruct nila yung
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007414stockpiling
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007415facility natin, yung mga tankin natin.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007416Yes.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007417Special provision, ma'am?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007418Parang, ano ba tawag mo doon?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007419Ah, nandiyo na sa... Ah, nandiyo na pa, sorry.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007420Nandiyo na pala. It's there already.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007421And then...
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007422So, yung pwedeng tanggalin?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007423Si PNOC, si
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007424NPC, tsaka PNOCEC
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007425wala namang request.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007426But, on...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007427And then, I think it was mentioned by
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007428Dagi, ano?
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007429Kung Dagi on the
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007430relocation. We'll talk first.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007431Before we ask for the relocation
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007432funding restoration, I think
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007433we need to talk to DPWH
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007434first. We'll talk to Vince muna.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007435Yung minention ni...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007436Yung relocation.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007437I don't know. I have a meeting
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007438with SecVince and
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007439before we request for it,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007440I want to clarify kung nawala ba
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007441or nandyan lang siya.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007442And then, lastly,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007443Chair,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007444our agencies, including
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007445DOE, don't have...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007446If there's any request
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007447for additional...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007448For...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007449We actually are in support of
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007450the increase of budget of ERC.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007451ERC is...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007452earns more
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007453than it spends.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007454Kaya wala,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007455hindi siya negative.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007456And then,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007457DOE actually
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007458collected 6 billion pesos
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007459for Malampaya this year.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007460And what we expect for next year,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007461kasi makokonect na yung bagong
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007462wealth sa system natin,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007463it will increase to about...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007464Estimates about 27 billion.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007465Malaking increase yan.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007466That's about 21 billion
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007467increase. And that won't go to us.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007468That will go to the national
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007469coffers.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007470So,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007471we're going to have to go to the national coffers.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007472So,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007473kung mabigyan nyo lang ng kahit
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007474200 million para kay...
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007475Dahil dyan sa increase,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007476we won't ask for any increase,
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007477but we ask that
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007478please give us a strong
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007479and able regulatory
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007480body para po
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007481seamless po ang pagbantay
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007482at ang performance po
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007483ng ating mga stakeholders. Thank you po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007484Thank you very much,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007485Sec. Sharon. Thank you.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007486Na-summarize na po ni Sec. Sharon
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007487on behalf of...
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007488our agencies here.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007489So, siguro po, on the
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007490EV, Sec, as you mentioned,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007491the special provision on
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007492the EV, the
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007493admin cost, the 5%
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007494admin cost as requested...
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-0074953% admin cost
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007496as requested by NEA.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007497Yung relocation,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007498Sec, yes po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007499Kasi last year po, 200 million po yun eh.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007500So...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007501Yeah.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007502Ma'am, can I just...
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007503Ma'am, can I just... Go ahead.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007504Go ahead.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007505Expound further on the 3%,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007506what is the issue.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007507Okay.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007508Ma'am, the 3% executive
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007509and administrative cost,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007510if we can do a special provision
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007511to treat it as a
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007512general income of NEA,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007513because
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007514that is to cover
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007515our additional engineers,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007516hiring of engineers,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007517to inspect our
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007518photovoltaic
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007519means of work.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007520So, we can timely implement
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007521that project.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007522Hindi ko kasi pinapayagan ng kuya.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007523Kung treat it as general income.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007524So, hindi ko namin mapapasweldo
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007525sa administrative cost
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007526ng project.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007527So, pilay na pilay ho kami.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007528Pilay na pilay ho kami
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007529mag-implement ng
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007530last mile schools,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007531at photovoltaic.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007532Dahil yun, malalayo hung lugar yun eh.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007533Pag pinakawalan ho namin ng mga engineers,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007534makakabalik ko yun,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007535mga 1 week or 10 days after na.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007536So, we really need to hire
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007537additional engineers
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007538to do
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007539and certify the final
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007540inspection.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007541So, yun lang po ang aming bottleneck
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007542ngayon. And we are really struggling
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007543in trying to
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007544timely implement the project.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007545Dahil talagang hoong sabihin,
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007546hindi lang yung mga engineers talaga
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007547sumasabak yun.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007548Kailangan namin na additional manpower.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007549If we can be permitted to use
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007550the EO to
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007551be spent on the salaries and wages
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007552of additional personnel.
NEA Administrator Antonio Mariano C. Almeda
asr-007553Thank you.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007554Admit that I was discussing with SDS.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007555There was a request, I think,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007556not from LEA last year,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007557but I think from ERC along the same lines
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007558in terms of
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007559using it
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007560parang retained income yung lumalabas eh.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007561We just need to confirm.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007562with DBM on that
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007563because last year
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007564I think there were two special provisions
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007565requested by the ERC along the same
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007566lines and we had to
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007567unfortunately
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007568you know that, Chair Nino
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007569we had to
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007570reject
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007571it as an amendment given that
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007572the DBM's
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007573position is there is no legal
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007574basis that would allow for
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007575such. So in the case of
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007576NEA, we'll
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007577have to confer with the DBM
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007578unless there's a DBM
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007579representative here.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007580Sorry to
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007581put you on the spot, DBM, but it's better
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007582for us to settle it while
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007583we're all together in the same
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007584room. So we'll
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007585already
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007586get the take
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007587of DBM on that.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007588The other special provisions
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007589kasi clear naman yun
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007590but this one po kasi there were
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007591similar requests in previous years
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007592that were
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007593I don't want to say opposed but
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007594had to be excluded
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007595from the inclusion in the NEP because of
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007596legal complexity.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007597So DBM,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007598while we're waiting for the
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007599DBM representative to
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007600take a seat, we'll go back
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007601po muna to the ERC
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007602as mentioned
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007603by Sec. Sharon.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007604So nakita ko naman po
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007605I was looking at the
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007606performance of the ERC.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007607The financial performance
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007608given naman yung talaga accomplishments
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007609given po yun but I just
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007610needed to look at the numbers
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007611in terms of the financial
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007612performance. Of course
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007613aside from the
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007614collections
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007615nung
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007616ERC, na-exceed
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007617nyo din po yung
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007618target revenues nyo for
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-0076192025 and I think for
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-0076202026 given that you're
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007621already almost at 100% of your
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007622target as of
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007623June this year. So
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007624may-exceed nyo din po for the second
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007625year in a row. Is that a safe assumption po
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007626Chair? Yes Madam Chair.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007627Our collections for the
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007628supervision and regulatory fees
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007629would come in end of
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007630September so we would likely
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007631hit or exceed
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007632that 2.3 billion
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007633that was
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007634earned for 2025.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007635Apo. Thank you po
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007636and yun po siguro po
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007637Chair we just need a little bit more
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007638information with regard to the request
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007639I understand that the 200
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007640million request for additional
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007641funding within
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007642ERC would go towards
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007643hiring additional personnel
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007644consultants, technical
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007645experts and the like. Am I
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007646getting it correct po yun po yung relay po
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007647saka ni Vice Chair Arden? That's correct
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007648mainly consultants because we
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007649intend to really complete
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007650the rate reset of all our distribution
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007651utilities in 2020.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007652And we would need
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007653the assistance of these consultants
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007654for us to be able
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007655to accomplish that
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007656task within the
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007657compressed timelines that we
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007658have set.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007659This rate reset exercise has
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007660not happened for more than
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007661a decade and
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007662starting this year and next year we will
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007663be able to finally complete it.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007664Thank you po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007665So we request lang po
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007666Chair for a
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007667more detailed
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007668additional details on
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007669the requirement. Just so again
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007670when we deliberate on it
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007671in the Budget Amendments Review Subcommittee
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007672we have a basis for how much funding
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007673really is required by the ERC
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007674kasi sabi nga po ni
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007675Sec Sharon, wala nang hihilingin
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007676yun lang
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007677matulungan lang po talaga
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007678yung ERC na magkaroon ng additional requirements
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007679and I was also briefed
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007680by Chair Arden
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007681as to where
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007682the like
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007683possible
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007684with the systems laws
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007685and all
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007686kailangan din talaga
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007687and the reset
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007688you would really need additional manpower
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007689to be able to make all of those computations
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007690so we just need more information po
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007691I was looking through the documents
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007692wala pa kasing details eh
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007693so we'll just wait for that po.
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007694Yes Madam Chair we will do that
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007695we will submit a
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007696narrative as regards
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007697what intend to do with
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007698additional funding
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007699that we will get
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007700for consultancy
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007701because whatever can be accomplished
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007702through the consultants
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007703that will free up our
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007704organic staff to perform
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007705other tasks
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007706among them of course we'll be working on the
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007707lowering of the system loss caps
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007708until we're able to
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007709fully
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007710remove the system losses
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007711from the charges in our
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007712electricity bills and we'd like to
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007713express our
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007714sincerest appreciation to the ERC members
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007715and we'd like to express our
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007716sincerest appreciation to the ERC members
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007717and we'd like to express our
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007718sincere appreciation and
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007719gratitude to our
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007720budget sponsor to
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007721Kong Arne for
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007722helping us out and
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007723guiding us on
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007724the process for
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007725being able to
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007726seek this
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007727additional
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007728budget for
ERC Chairperson and CEO Francis Saturnino C. Juan
asr-007729ERC
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007730Thank you very much shared
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007731so we'll wait for that
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007732along with the
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007733special provisions
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007734as proposed by
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007735the DOE
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007736so now I would
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007737going back
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007738circling back to
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007739the question of the special provision. Sige po. For the information of the body, so the DBM director who could respond to our query is actually in Romualdez Hall because of the ongoing meeting with DOH.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007740Hawak niyo po pala both DOE and DOH. It's the same director. So upon conferring with Sec Sharon and Vice Chair Arnie, instead of waiting for DBM to state their position today, we'll just have a separate conversation with them.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007741So hopefully po, before pagsikong Arnie mo, bilis naman yung actions ng Sec Sharon pa together.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007742So hopefully po, before we...
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007743before the plenary we'll be able to settle that so instead of waiting in the interest of time i
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007744know everyone is also tired um it's been seven hours um since the start of the the doe hearing
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007745so um with that actually those are my only um that that is my manifestation and siguro sec
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007746sharon uh one thing if we may request for that list um that prioritized list um by
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007747end of the week um because we're we're we we need to subject it to the deliberation of the barcy
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007748which we intend to convene in a week or so so we'll we'll request um for
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007749Yun nga lang, ma-accelerate lang kasi yung wording we need to get by the end of the week.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007750Actually, the end of the week, it's tomorrow. No problem.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007751Wednesday na pala.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007752So by tomorrow, one document. Yes, ma'am.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007753Thank you very much. And even ERC, paki-detail lang po.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007754Can you give it to them?
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007755And then, yeah, special provision, if possible, ihabol na rin.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007756Submit lang po lagi, Madam Chair, if I may, Speaker Bodjie Dy through Mika Suansing. Lagi pong gano'n. Thank you. And copy-furnish lang po ako.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007757Asec Den will talk to
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007758DBM. She used to be with COA naman eh.
DOE Secretary Sharon S. Garin
asr-007759So that would guide them on what the language, together with NEA, para pag-usapan nila before we all go home.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007760Thank you very much, [unclear]. So that's it for my end. Again, um
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007761the same as uh last year um our full support of course to to sex Sharon and the whole um doe family
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007762um and erc family so we will uh work within the as
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007763as mentioned within the limited physical space to be able to help augment or restore whichever items
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007764need to be restored so again our utmost gratitude in our commendation to the to the doe family irc
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007765family um today for all the hard work um and good work that you have been doing for our country
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007766i would even say very very um a silent workersy um long term working with NAC and working with our
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007767as evidenced by all of the accomplishments uh this year so thank you thank you um to
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007768the doe family and um and the best way that we could reciprocate um the good work that you've
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007769been doing is to make sure that in the 2027 budget you are provided with the resources to
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007770be able to perform your mandate um for the following year okay thank you
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007771so that's it um i won't prolong it anymore um last number i just want to say thank you
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007772um to vice chair arnie fontabelia for very expertly managing today's proceedings
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007773um
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007774of course has been um your partner um in in
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007775in last year's deliberations
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007776so again thank you so much and with that um i will like to um turn it over to
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007777before we terminate ma'am just one question as a pnoc are you happy with your job
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-007778are you happy okay
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007779uh
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007780Actually, before I move for the termination, I'd like to congratulate Secretary Sharon Garin and
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007781the attached agencies of DOE for a job well done. No, in spite of
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007782a bigger budget and
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007783limited resources, you were able to perform your mandate effectively. Congratulations.
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007784Gusto ko rin sanang mag-defend ulit ng budget. Kaya lang hindi na ako pinayagan ni Chair.
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007784-split-2Mas magaling daw
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007784-split-3at saka yung legend sa pag-defend. [laughter]
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007784-split-4Cong. Arnie
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007784-split-5Masyadong magaling yung pumalit. So, congratulate naman. Palakpakan natin si [unclear]. Backup lang kami, backup. So
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007785Madam Chair, I move that the
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007786committee terminate its hearing on the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007787Energy, including its attached corporations, as well as the Energy Regulatory Commission, under House Bill
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007788Number 10858. I so move.
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda
asr-007788-split-2Second.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007788-split-3It has been moved and duly seconded to terminate the
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007789hearing on the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Energy, including its attached
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007790corporations, as well as the ERC. Is there any objection? Hearing none, the motion is carried.
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007791next next
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007791-split-2kindly you sit down
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007792I move that we suspend the committee hearing here at the Nograles Hall on House Bill Number 10858
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-007793until tomorrow, September 3, 2026, at 9:00 a.m. I so move.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007794It has been moved and duly seconded. Any objection? Hearing none, the motion is carried.
Rep. Arnie B. Fuentebella
asr-007795The budget hearing is suspended until tomorrow, September 3, 2026, at 9:00 a.m.