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Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000001For budget deliberation of the Commission on Audit,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000002I request the budget briefing hearing of COA is resumed and the hearing is called to order.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000003Comsec, please acknowledge the members and resource persons present today.
Committee Secretary
asr-000004Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good afternoon, Your Honors.
Committee Secretary
asr-000005May we acknowledge the members present today.
Committee Secretary
asr-000006We have Vice Chair John Tracy Cagas,
Committee Secretary
asr-000007Deputy Minority Leader Percival Persik Sendanya,
Committee Secretary
asr-000008Representative Franz Pumared,
Committee Secretary
asr-000009Vice Chair Monique Yasmin Maria Lagdameo,
Committee Secretary
asr-000010Representative Arturo Robes,
Committee Secretary
asr-000011Assistant Minority Leader Iris Marie de Mesa Montes,
Committee Secretary
asr-000012Deputy Majority Leader Alay Cesar,
Committee Secretary
asr-000014Representative Mauricio Dumogan.
Committee Secretary
asr-000015May we also acknowledge our guests from the Commission on Audit.
Committee Secretary
asr-000016We have Chairperson Gamaliel Cordoba,
Committee Secretary
asr-000017Commissioner Mario Lipana,
Committee Secretary
asr-000018Commissioner Douglas Michael Malilin,
Committee Secretary
asr-000019Assistant Commissioner Alexander Juliano,
Committee Secretary
asr-000020Assistant Commissioner Nilda Plano,
Committee Secretary
asr-000022Assistant Commissioner Marta Roxana Zese
Committee Secretary
asr-000023Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan,
Committee Secretary
asr-000024Assistant Commissioner Roy Ursal,
Committee Secretary
asr-000025Assistant Commissioner Joel Estolatan,
Committee Secretary
asr-000026Assistant Commissioner Lito Martin,
Committee Secretary
asr-000027Assistant Commissioner Bressilo Zabaldan,
Committee Secretary
asr-000028Assistant Commissioner Lucila Isidro,
Committee Secretary
asr-000029Commissioner Sofia Jimora,
Committee Secretary
asr-000030Assistant Commissioner Estela Mercado.
Committee Secretary
asr-000031We have also our Regional Directors of COA,
Committee Secretary
asr-000032Director Miriam Villanueva of the National Capital Region.
Committee Secretary
asr-000033From the Cordillera Administrative Region,
Committee Secretary
asr-000034Director Omar Roque,
Committee Secretary
asr-000035Director Olympia Balugay from Region 1.
Committee Secretary
asr-000036Please raise your hand when you are called.
Committee Secretary
asr-000037Please acknowledge.
Committee Secretary
asr-000038Director Frederick Barillo, Region 2.
Committee Secretary
asr-000039From Region 3, Director Yumaida Chongson.
Committee Secretary
asr-000040Region 4B, 4A, Director Dondon Marcos.
Committee Secretary
asr-000041From Region 4B, Director Hector Cortez.
Committee Secretary
asr-000042Region 5, Director Felix Basaliahe Jr.
Committee Secretary
asr-000043Region 6, Director Almer Tuante.
Committee Secretary
asr-000044From the Negros Island Region, Director Rusty Guiling.
Committee Secretary
asr-000045Region 7, Director Chona Labrague.
Committee Secretary
asr-000046Director Enriquito Bolos of Region 8.
Committee Secretary
asr-000047Director Matthew Ray Magno, Region 9.
Committee Secretary
asr-000048Director Marisol Legaspe, Region 10.
Committee Secretary
asr-000049Director Alfredo Largo, Region 11.
Committee Secretary
asr-000050Director Glenn Cambray of Region 12.
Committee Secretary
asr-000051Director Alia Arumpac Masbud of Region 13.
Committee Secretary
asr-000052Director Wilson Ibrahim Panawidan of the Bangsamoro Administrative Region in Muslim Mindanao.
Committee Secretary
asr-000053We have also guests or representatives from the Department of Budget and Management.
Committee Secretary
asr-000054Chief Budget and Management Specialist Patricia Arabella Villamin.
Committee Secretary
asr-000055And Chief Budget...
Committee Secretary
asr-000056And Chief Budget and Management Specialist Marilo Lagarde.
Committee Secretary
asr-000057We have another additional members present.
Committee Secretary
asr-000058Mr. Chair, Vice Chair, Nicanor Briones.
Committee Secretary
asr-000059That's all, Mr. Chair.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000060Honorable Briones, please sit beside us.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000061Okay, thank you.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000062Honorable members, distinguished colleagues, and esteemed guests,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000063Magandang hapon po sa ating lahat.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000065We welcome our guests from the Commission on Audit, headed by our Chairperson, Gamaliel Cordoba.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000066The Commission on Audit stands as a constitutional institution entrusted with a fundamental responsibility to safeguard the people's resources and ensure that public funds are collected, managed, and utilized in accordance with law.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000067with accountability, transparency, economy, efficiency, and effectiveness.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000068The proposed 2027 fiscal year budget of the Commission
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000069amounting to P16.046 billion
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000070is an investment in the country's system of public accountability,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000071strengthen its audit operations,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000072modernize its systems and processes,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000073develop the capabilities of its personnel,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000074and respond more effectively to the increasing complexity of government programs, transactions,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000075and public expenditures.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000076With the support of Congress,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000077the Commission on Audit will continue to uphold its constitutional mandate with independence,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000078professionalism, and integrity.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000079We will strive to make
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000080public audit, not merely an exercise in detecting irregularities,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000081but an instrument for improving government performance,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000082preventing the wastage of public resources and strengthening public trust.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000095The 16.046 billion proposed budget for fiscal year 2027 will help ensure that the Commission has the resources necessary to perform its mandate
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000096effectively and to remain a steadfast partner in promoting good governance and responsible stewardship of the nation's wealth.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000097Maraming salamat po.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000098Chairperson Gamaliel Cordoba, sir, you may now proceed with your presentation.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000099Chairperson Cagas and to the other honorable members of the
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000100Appropriations Committee, magandang hapon po sa inyong lahat and thank you for giving us the chance to present our budget here in your committee and to Congress as a whole.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000101I have here po, ASCOM Nilda Plaras, who is in charge of our finance office to present our budget. Thank you very much.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000102Commissioner Plaras, go ahead, please.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000103Good morning. Good afternoon, Vice Chair and members of the Committee on Appropriations.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000104My COA family and my fellow public servants, may I now present first as the major accomplishment of the Commission on Audit for fiscal year 2025 and the first semester of fiscal year 2026.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000105Then the next part is the budget of the Commission under the fiscal year 2027 National Expenditure Program.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000106So with our major accomplishments categorized into two, the financial performance and the physical performance.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000107For our financial performance for fiscal year 2025, COA received total allotment of 15,101,610,000 and this comprised of agency-specific budget.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000108The special purpose fund, this is for the second trans-salary standardization.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000109The unprogrammed appropriation, this is for our performance-based bonus for fiscal year 2023.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000110Then the retirement and life insurance premiums and the continuing appropriations.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000111Out of this total allotment, we were able to obligate 14,702,701,000.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000112or obligation rate of 97.36, resulting to a balance of unobligated allotment of 398,909,000.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000113Out of the total obligations incurred, we dispersed 14,309,736,000, which is 97.33.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000114Resulting to a balance of unpaid obligations of 392,965,000.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000115For the first semester of fiscal year 2026, we received total allotment for the whole year of 2026, 15,773,503,000.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000116And we were able to obligate 8,054,240,000 or 51.06%.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000117Then we were able to disburse also 7,848,598,000 or 97.45% disbursement rate.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000118Then we have the balance of unobligated allotment of 7,719,263,000.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000121With unpaid obligations of 205,642,000.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000122For our physical performance under the government auditing programs, COA was able to transmit to the audited agencies the following reports.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000123For Fiscal Year 2025, there were 2,663 annual audit reports transmitted, 43 fraud audit reports, 10 special audit reports, and 3 performance audit reports.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000124For the first half of 2026, we transmitted 2,605 annual audit reports, 10 fraud audit reports, special audit reports of 4, and 3 performance audit reports.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000125Still under the government auditing program, COA was able to publish in our COA website annual audit reports.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000126For Fiscal Year 2025, a total of 2,255 annual audit reports and 295 AERs from the national government audit sector,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000127533 annual audit reports from the corporate government audit sector, and 1,427 from the local government sector.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000128For the first half of 2027,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000129we don't have yet because the deadline of the transmittal of the annual audit reports was last June 30,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000130and pursuant to Section 107 of the General Provisions of the Fiscal Year General Appropriations Act,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000131we are given until October 31 for the publication of the annual audit reports.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000132Under the government accountancy program,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000133COA was able to,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000134submit annual report of appropriations, allotments, obligations, and disbursements
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000135to the Office of the President, House of Representatives, and the Senate,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000136both for Fiscal Years 2025 and 2026.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000137For the annual financial reports of local government, national government, and government corporations,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000138COA was able to submit to the three offices,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000139reports
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000140for fiscal year 2025.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000141For 2026, our deadline of submission will be on September 30, 2026.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000142Still under the government accountancy program,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000143COA was able to issue accounting rules and regulations.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000144For Fiscal Year 2025,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000145there were two COA circulars,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000146and for the first half of 2026,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000147we have also issued two COA circulars.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000148As to the number of agency users that COA trained and assisted
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000149on the use of COA-developed computerized systems
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000150for government accounting and financial management,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000151for fiscal year 2025, we were able to train agency users 3,817.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000152And for the first semester of fiscal year 2026,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000153there were 2,148 agency users that were trained and assisted.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000154For the next program, the government financial adjudication program,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000155for fiscal year 2025, the commission proper decided 811 cases.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000156For the national government audit sector, 587 cases.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000158188
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000159188 cases for the corporate government audit sector,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000160and 571 cases for the local government audit sector.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000161For the first semester of fiscal year 2026,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000162the commission proper was able to decide 448 cases,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000163116 cases from the national government audit sector,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-00016442 cases from the corporate government audit sector,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000165and 224 cases from the local government audit sector.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000166Next is our budget of the commission under the fiscal year 2027 National Expenditure Program.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000167And COA was allotted a total budget of 16,046,527,000.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000168And this consists of the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000169agency-specific budget of 14.774 billion,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000170and for the retirement and life insurance premium of 1.272 billion.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000171And this agency-specific budget comprises of the personal services
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000172in the total amount of 14.036 billion,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000173and the maintenance and other operating expenses for 737.977 million.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000175So we don't have a capital outlay for the next year.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000176And then last slide is the comparative data between the NEP
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000177as against the budget proposal of COA.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000178For the personal services,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000179there is an increase of 179,185,000
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000180and this is due to the increase in the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000181authorized plantilla positions and inclusions of the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000182Fourth Tranche Salary Standardization Law.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000183For the MOOE, there is a decrease of 254,420,000 and
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000184this reduction pertains to the first year
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000185implementation of the COA ISSP and also
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000186our additional funding for the citizen
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000187participatory audit MOOE requirements.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000188And for capital outlay,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000189we were not able, our proposal was not considered. So that's all for the presentation.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000190Thank you.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000190-split-1Thank you, Commissioner Plaras. May I remind our
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000191distinguished colleagues that each member is given five minutes
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000192for questioning or interpolation excluding the response of the resource
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000193persons and when you hear the bell sound it means you have only 30 seconds to
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000194wind up with your questions as part of a long-standing and respected tradition of
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000195the House, to accord preferential treatment to the minority members of the House,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000196and followed by the independent and majority members in an alternating manner.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000197Okay, the Chair
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000198recognizes from the minority, the Honorable Representative Perci Cendaña, sir.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000199Thank you very much mr. chair magandang hapon po magandang hapon po as the chairperson
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000200ng ating COA at sa buong COA family. Good afternoon po.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000201Good afternoon. At special shout out po doon sa atin pong galing pa sa region
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000202to join us today. Thank you for being with us. Yung una kong tanong ay, bukod po doon sa
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000203mga legit na bagyo, binabagyo ang bansa natin ng korupsyon. Ito pong nakaraang
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000204taon hanggang ngayon ito po lagu yung top of mind issue when people think of
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000205government.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000206At ito po ay korupsyon sa issue ng flood control, hot facilities at iba pang infrastructure projects.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000207Sa totoo lamang po, COWA dapat yung tatampal sa kamay ng korap at magsasabi na, huy, bawal yan.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000208Pero sabi ng COWA last year, dalawa lang daw ang taga-audit natin ng flood control.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000209Ang ending na ibulsa ang triliyong-triliyong pisong pera ng taong bayan.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000210Ang tanong po ay, natuganan na po ba natin?
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000211Natuganan po ba sa kasulukuyang budget yung gap na ito?
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000212At sa ngayon po, ilan na po ba ang nahire from last year to this year, Mr. Chairperson?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000213Thank you very much, Kong Sendanya, for that question.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000214Tungkol po muna doon sa binanggit ninyo, doon po sa, I think you were referring to the 1st District Engineering Office of Bulacan.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000215Ang ginawa po namin, galing na po sa Central Office ang naging tugon po namin through the Fraud Audit Office.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000216So, ang ginawa po namin ay nag-conduct na po kami ng Fraud Audit on marami na pong take-up na transaction po doon sa Bulacan.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000217Actually, I think we're able to have around 50 Fraud Audit, or 50 transactions.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000218And ito nga po ang ginagamit na po ng ombudsman.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000219Una pong muna, nung wala po, nung una po ay sinabit po namin ito sa ICI.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000220But noon pong natapos na po si ICI.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000221We submitted everything to ombudsman.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000222Ito na po ang ginagamit ng ombudsman for the cases that are being tried in the preliminary investigation po sa kanila,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000223and then sa Sandigan Bayan na po yung iba.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000224And also, our auditors are the ones, mga naging witnesses po dito.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000225Tungkol naman po doon sa pag-hire, I think natugunan naman po kami ng DBM dahil humingi po kami ng tulong.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000226Sabi po namin, dati po kasi kulang sa Region 3.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000227At saka po sa BARM, ang number of personnel, kasi po ay nabawasan po yun.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000228So, nandito po si ASCOM Lord na Kabutyan para po explain po yung grinan po ng DBM sa amin, na number of personnel.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000229Salamat po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000230Good afternoon po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000231As early as 2020, when our OSSP po, yung plantilla possessions was approved,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000232upon review,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000233meron po kami nabawasan kami ng around 716 possessions.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000234That's why we filed our MR with the DBM.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000235And luckily po, this was favorably acted upon by the DBM last July po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000236And they already granted or restored the 332 possessions po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000237And basically po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000238ang merami po dito, like what the Chair mentioned, yung COWA-BARM po of 141 possessions because that time,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000239this was deducted to our original plantilla.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000240And COWA Region 3 of 123 and the others naman po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000241with the other offices na very minimal po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000242So we are very thankful po for the DBM in granting po yung MR namin.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000243Out of 716, we were restored to 332 positions.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000244So ilan pa po ang kailangan natin?
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000245So the balance po ng 716, less 332 po is around mga almost 400 pa po.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000246So more than half pa yung kailangan natin from the original.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000247Is this a cause for concern?
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000248Yes po, it's a cause for concern.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000249Because as the agencies are adding and as present,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000250medyo kulang na rin ang mga auditors natin in the field.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000251And aside from yung separation, meron din po kaming data on the separation of our auditors
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000252less than 10 years who were staying with us.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000253During the exit interview, mas preferable po sa kanila yung higher pay
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000254and proximity po sa residence nila and yung flexible working arrangement po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000255So, though we are continually recruiting, meron din po kasing separation through transfer
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000256po sa ibang government agencies and resignation.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000257And of course, also po ngayon, they are considering to retire at the age of 60 na po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000258They wouldn't wait for 65 po. as soon as they reach the age of 60, they are availing the optional retirement.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000262Mr. Chair, sa totoo lamang po,
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000263medyo alarming itong trend na ito.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000264Mas lalo ding alarming na kulang na kulang
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000265pa rin pala hanggang ngayon.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000266Ngayong 2027 po, may proposed 107 billion pesos para sa flood control under DPWH.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000267Pagpalpak uli ang audit or kapag kulang, mabagal ang audit, repeat performance tayo sa 2025.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000268At alam na po natin kung ano yung dahilan. Ito nga po nabanggit natin nakakulangan.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000269on top of yung budgetary needs po natin, may plano ba ang COA na i-enhance ang capacity ng special audit teams
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000270para maimbestigahan kung may gross and anomalous flood control projects ulit.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000271Si Commissioner Douglas Malilin po ang magsasakit.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000272Magandang hapon po. May mga reforma po na ginagawa po ang COA.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000273Habang may kakulangan po ang aming budget lalo na ho sa capital outlay at may kakulangan din ho sa tao,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000274may mga ginagawa ho kaming pamamaraan para mapabilis naman ho yung natututunan ng mga tao.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000275Sa ngayon po, sa kabuuan ng lahat po ng regions namin, sinasalang ho namin sila sa mga mabibigat hon training courses
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000276for data analytics po. Ito lang po ang pamamaraan ho namin ngayon dahil ang traditional ng audit ho
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000277ay madalas alam namin na dinadaan ho sa papel. But with the present technology that we have
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000278and with what we have in the basic technology, we have the ability to do that.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000279At the same time po, tinitingnan niyo namin yung mga ahensya na mapabago ho namin yung sistema.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000280Kung mamarapatin po namin ang accounting processes ho ng COA na isiniwalat ho namin sa lahat ng ahensya
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000281ay nasa salubo ng kinatawag ho namin government accounting manual.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000282Kung titignan ho natin itong government accounting manual, may kalumaan na ho, bago ho yung issuance noong 2015.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000283Pero yung mga proseso ho ng COA, inaamin ho namin marami na ho kailangan palitan.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000284Napaparami ho yung papel.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000285Naiiba naman ho yung tawag ng teknolohiya. So binabago po namin yun.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000286So simula proseso ho hanggang kung anuman ng teknolohiya ang pwede namin gamitin ay ginagamit po namin ngayon.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000287Meron ho kaming iminungkahi noong nakaraang taon but because of the budget constraints,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000288ang ginawa ho namin muna ay kung ano lang muna magagawa in terms of what technology we can use.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000289At the same time po, meron nilabas po ang COA na resolution at circular po na geotagging.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000290Nakita ho namin na malaking bagay ho ito sa mga infrastructure projects.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000291We are coordinating po with DPWH so that yung geotagging requirements and our other stricter requirements po ay hindi naman po makasagabal sa kailangan ho nilang magampanan na proyekto.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000292Dahil pag sumobra naman po ang nagiging requirements at bumagal po yung pangangailangan, binabalansi ho namin ito.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000293Noong nakaraang taon, there was also a suggestion for pre-audit.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000294May kaakibat na budget din po ito pero ang ginagawa namin in the middle ground.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000295We are looking at ways and means po, para lang magkaroon ho ng continuous audit without exactly it being a pre-audit.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000296Marami hong mga programa ngayon sa loob ng COA.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000297Ang tinututukan namin ngayon muna po ay ang kaalaman ng mga tao to upskill them.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000298Dahil
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000299Kung kulang kami sa tao at madalas nawawalan, di po kami ng tao.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000300We take a look at technology as the response po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000301Maraming salamat po.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000302Mr. Chair, napakabait po ng pagka-frame ng ating COA Commissioner nung sinabi niya na kulang yung kanilang capital outlay.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000303Pero pag binilikan po natin yung budget pa, zero po ang capital outlay ng COA.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000304Ano po ang impact nitong zero capital outlay sa pag-acquire natin ng necessary technologies para mas paigihin po ang ating trabaho sa loob ng COA?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000305Meron po kaming, yung pamamaraan po namin ngayon po ay turuan po ng mga tauhan po namin ng tamang paggamit po ng teknolohiya.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000306We basically have two items po that we have been doing since last year.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000307Data analytics, at the same time po we're taking a look at enhancing po yung citizens participatory audit.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000308So kung kulang man po ang tao, pero matatapos.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000309At po namin ang publiko, mga NGOs, mga CSOs po, na tulungan po kami sa audit, nakakadagdag manpower din po ito.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000310Yun nga lang po, kasama po sa hiling namin na budget po for this program, yung citizens participatory audit, mukhang may kakulangan din po sa larangan po nung budget for that aspect po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000311So overall po, despite the lack of a capital outlay, we do what we can.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000312Pero mas maganda po kung magpagbigyan po kami sa area po ng dagdag capital outlay po, dagdag opisina, dagdag teknolohiya, hardware and software po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000313Mas maganda po ang magiging performance po ng audit dahil mag-iiba po ang landscape of how we audit.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000314Hindi na po yung papel po ang inahanap po namin.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000315Ang nangyayari po is magiging mas analytic po ang mga auditors po natin.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000316Maraming salamat po.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000317Again po, nakababahala itong zero capital outlay para sa COA, lalo na sa panahon kailangan-kailangan natin i-bolster yung capacity ng ahensya, lalo na pagdating sa software at hardware.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000318The only way for us to be more efficient is with efficient use of technology at hindi po yan hinuhugot sa hangin, kailangan po ang capital outlay.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000319And we hope that the committee will really work with COA in restoring the capital outlay proposal of COA, lalo na po sa panahon ito na matinding korupsyon.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000320Nabagid nyo po kanina.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000321Mayroong pre-audit systems. Ano po ba ang kailangan nating budgetary support para po sa staffing, training at implementation ng ating pre-audit system?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000322Mr. Chair, meron po kaming, ito po yung tinake up na rin po natin last year based on the question of Congressman Romeo Momo.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000323We have computation kasama po ang salaries, etc.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000324Lahat po ng kailangan.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000325We will have 146 additional pre-audit teams composed of various audit technical and administrative positions.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000326We can submit it po to the committee.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000327Lahat-lahat na po ito, more or less around 2.5 billion po ito.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000328Pero sa tingin po namin, sulit po ito dahil bigyan ko po kayong statistics just for this year, your honors, sa DPWH lang po ang na-issue po na notice,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000329ang notice of suspension na na-issue ng ating mga auditors sa DPWH is already 107.771 billion.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000330At ang notice of disallowance na na-issue po is 51.27 billion.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000331Of course, iba-iba na po ang stages ito ngayon dahil may appeal, etc.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000332But the total amount that was issued for DPWH only for this year is already 158 billion pesos.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000333Can you imagine po?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000334Ang magagagawa natin kung madadagdagan po ng 148 pre-audit teams.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000335Tama ba? 148 pre-audit teams ang ating Commission on Audit.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000336Napakalaking bagay po. Dito pa lang po sa existing natin ngayon, we already were able to do actions on 158 billion pesos.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000337Thank you.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000338Marami pong salamat and we support you on this call.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000339Lalo na po, napakahalaga ng pre-audit teams.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000340Kayo po talaga ang frontliners at first line of defense against corruption.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000341Kaya nga po, hindi ko maintindihan na while the government is saying na ang priority ay anti-corruption,
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000342hindi po ba dapat binibigay natin ng dagdag na sandata, dagdag na resources at investment ang COA.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000343Kaya po, medyo I still find it quite difficult to believe na zero ang nilagay sa ating capital outlay
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000344at ngayon ay bitin-bitin pa rin tayo padating po sa mga needs natin in terms of personnel.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000345Let me just go back to the issue of flood control.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000346Meron po ba tayong audit reforms na in-implement para pigilan ang license, renting schemes at contractor monopolies?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000347Para sagutin ko po yung tanong po ninyo.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000348Nung nagsimula po nagkaroon ng kontrobersiya po ang PICAB,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000349ang mga auditors po namin in the auditing PICAB po ay tumutok na po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000350Ang unahong tinignan nila dahil dito po nang gagaling ang...
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000351Yung malaking parte ng problema po ng PICAB ay ang qualifications po at yung conflict of...
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000352possible conflict of interest.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000353Dito po unang nagkaroon ng problema.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000354But more so po, ang tinignan po namin ay ang kadikit po niyang mga sistema po sa loob ng DPWH.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000355Dahil po, inaayos na rin po ng DPWH yung mga sistema nila.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000356We are coordinating po with them.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000357So we're taking a look at all their data po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000358So that moving forward...
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000359Nakikita po natin, magkakaroon na po tayo ng idea kung sino ho yung mga contractor na medyo malalaki ho yung proyekto.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000360Sino yung nakakakuha sa bawat area.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000361So ang nangyayari po dito is we can do reverse engineering po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000362Kung ano ho yung nakikita natin nakakakuha po ng kontrata o sumasali po sa bidding,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000363nakikita po natin we tie it back po sa PICAB data.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000364Nung una po, pag ina-audit namin ng PICAB, it is more of a...
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000365But because of what happened po, pinapasok namin ho yung ibang modes of audit namin.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000366Compliance, performance audit, at meron pang iba pa.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000367Kaya ang pinapalakas po namin yung areas of weaknesses, lalo na po at this point in time where we saw the deficiencies po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000368At naging red flag po sa COA at pinalakas din po namin yung sa side po namin ng COA kung ano po dapat namin gawin.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000369Salamat po.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000370Maraming salamat.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000371Mr. Chair, may the committee kindly direct the Commission on Audit to submit a progress report on these efforts pertaining to license renting and contractor monopolies.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000372Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000373And for my last set of questions, simple lamang po.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000374Napakahalaga po talaga ng AAR, no po?
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000375At nabanggit po ninyo na ang deadline ng annual audit reports ay September 2026.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000376September na po next week, no?
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000377May we ask the COA kung ilang percent na po ng mga agencies ang nakapag-submit ng kanilang AARs for 2025 at ilan pa po ang hinihintayin natin?
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000378Natanong ko po ito kasi inaabangan po talaga namin sa inyong website yung publication ng mga AARs.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000379For
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000380the annual audit reports, the deadline of the transmittal to the audited agency was June 30.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000381Then we have 60 days from the...
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000382Transmittal for requiring the audited agency to submit the actions taken on the audit observations and recommendations.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000383Then these actions taken by the management will be appended to the annual audit report to be published in the COA website.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000384So we are given until October 31 to publish the annual audit reports.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000385Ibig sabihin po, nakasabing na po ang lahat ng mga ahensya o ilang percent na po ang nakasabing?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000386No, transmitted to the audited agencies.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000387To the audited agencies. Okay. Sige po. Marami pong salamat.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000388Siguro po as a last point, we say that anti-corruption is a priority of the government and yet we do not see this in the allocation that was given to COA.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000389Kung sinasabi po natin na ang budget ang pinakakongkreta expression of the priorities of government,
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000390then it seems like...
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000391Based on this budget, particularly yung nakababahalang zero capital outlay sa panahon na kailangan-kailangan natin ng teknolihiya ay hindi binigay sa COA.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000392So again, we question if truly anti-corruption is the priority if it's not reflective of yung investments na niligay sa napakahalagang ahensya ng ito.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000393Muli po kayo ang ating frontliners at first time defense against corruption at sana mabigyan kayo ng sapat na support ng gobyerno.
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña
asr-000394Mabuhay po kayo. Salamat po, Mr. Chair.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000395Thank you, Representative Cendaña.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000396We now call from the majority, Representative Mauricio Domogan, sir.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000397Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000398Good afternoon, the COA family, leaded by our chairperson, Apo Cordoba.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000399I was the one who brought last year.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000400Siguro walang nanakaw kung hindi natin inalis yung pre-audit.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000401Umuon naman kayo last year to that effect.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000402Yung problema lang, sabi ninyo, kulang yung manpower.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000403Relative to the question of Congressman Zindania,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000404bakit hindi natin binigyan ng priority?
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000405Yung increase sa personal...
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000406services.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000407So that we hire additional auditors that will be conducting pre-audit.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000408Actually, I filed already a bill pursuant to what we had discussed last year.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000409Making pre-audit coupled with geo-mapping
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000410as mandatory requisite of
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000411payment of government projects.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000412Kasi kung ginawa natin ito,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000413imposible na may ghost project na nababayaran.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000414As we all know, post-audit usually concentrate on the record submitted.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000415Di masyado tinitingnan yung project. O, nakakalusot na.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000416So I hope that COA,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000417should support this bill.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000418And my question now is,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000419do we have an amount that we need
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000420to augment yung inyong budget
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000421for 2027
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000422in order to hire the necessary personnels
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000423to perform pre-audit
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000424coupled with
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000426geo-mapping?
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000427Maraming salamat po, Apo.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000428First of all po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000429we manifest our support for your pending bill.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000430Kung kailangan po kaming mag-attend
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000431or maging resource person po sa inyong pending bill,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000432we are ready to help po doon.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000433Secondly po, tungkol po dun sa amount that you mentioned,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000434we already submitted na rin po ito.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000435Last year, but we will resubmit it again.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000436At meron na po kami.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000437Tulad po ng nabanggit ko kanina,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000438we would need additional 146 pre-audit teams
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000439composed of several personnel per team.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000440And nandito na po yung whole amount.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000441Our estimate is around 2.2 billion po for pre-audit.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000442But 2.2 billion pesos.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000443But actually po, as I have mentioned earlier,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000444napaka maliit po ito
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000445kumpara po sa magiging action.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000446If we have this, kapalis po nang sinabi ko kanina,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000447even without this,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000448ang na-issue po na NS,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000449or Notice of Suspension ng aming DPWH team,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000450ay 107 billion na po agad.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000451So kung titigan niyo po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000452yung butal pa lang po noon ay katapat na po nito.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000453And then meron pa pong NDNCs
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000454na na-issue na 51 of total of 158 billion.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000455Doon pa lang po sa butal ay ito pong gastos na to.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000456So sa 2.1 ay kuwang-kuwa na po, Your Honors.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000457Salamat po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000459Chairman, thank you.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000460Presiding Officer.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000461I am sure not only me,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000462but my colleagues will support
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000463the motion later on in the floor.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000464Nadagdagan yung inyong budget to comply with this one.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000465If we are really serious to fight
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000466corruption,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000467pinapakinggan ko yung presentation ninyo eh,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000468may additional personnel.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000469Ngunit,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000470hindi nakatutok sa talagang requirement.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000471Parang ito nga,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000472mapigil itong ano.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000473Imagine,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000474aabot ng halos billion-billions yung nawala.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000475Kasi,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000476if you look at what happened,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000477pre-audit was being done.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000478It was only removed in 2011.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000479That was,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000480what happened.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000481And eh,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000482yung talagang ghost projects na nababayaran,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000483yun na nangyari.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000484See,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000485I remember the rehabilitation of Baguio
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000486from the ruins of the killer quick.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000487And I am happy that we have some
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000488graduates of Baguio here with the commission.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000489A lot of you.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000490A lot of you, even the one who testified in the impeachment is from Erisan Bagusitian, graduate of St. Louis University.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000491Eh, siyong ko siguro may balik natin yan, malaking bagay sa ating gobyerno if again we are serious of addressing this issue of corruption.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000492Eh, hindi siguro lulusot yung ano. Kasi kung may pre-audit coupled with geo-tagging or mapping, talagang maliwanag na nandyan na yung project.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000493Eh, hindi yung ghost projects pagkatapos full payment. Ano naman yan?
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000494Eh, yung talagang maliwanag na nangyayari, pinapayagan natin yung magnanakaw na.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000495Magnanakaw ka muna bago namin kayo kabulin. Asan tayo ngayon? Mahabol mo pa ng nasa Amerika.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000496Hindi pa natin alam kung asan siya at this point in time.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000497So, thank you for your manifestation to support this one.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000498Eh, well, I was about to ask, alright, the result of your audit na pinakita ninyo, ilan yan yung na-issue ng AOM at Notice of Order?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000500Yun pong sa nangyayari po dun sa DPWH sa Bulacan, we're able to have fraud audit po sa 50 projects. Lahat po yun ay na-issuean po namin.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000501Yeah, but for this year, 2026.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000502Ah, okay. Ito po. Ang na-issuean po namin ng NS na po, Notice of Suspension of Payment is 107 billion. Sa DPWH pa lang po ito.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000503Sa ND, or Notice of Charge po, tsaka Notice of Disallowance, nasa 50.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-00050451 billion po. For a total of 158 billion.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000505Na yun mga naman, nabayaran na.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000506Ah, yun po, nabayaran na po.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000507Ayun na, yung problema.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000509Kung siguro pre-audit, hindi nabayaran yan.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000511Tingnan mo yan, billions pa.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000513That's why, talagang kailangan na kailangan ito.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000514Ah, meron lang po idadagdag, ah, ah po.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000515Yes, ah.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000516Yun pong binanggit nyo kanina, na pre-audit with geo-tagging.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000517Nakalaking bagay po nung word na geo-tagging.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000518Dahil dito po sa fraud audit namin, medyo napapansin po namin,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000519nahirapan po kaming hanapin yun mismo pong project.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000520We don't know if it's really ghost or not.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000521Because iba-iba po yung coordinates.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000522Correct.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000523Yung po ang aming, kaya po nahirapan din po ang aming auditor na maghanap.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000524Itinuturo-turo lang po sila.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000525But yung po ang coordinates, nagbabago po kasi.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000526Yeah.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000528So, importante din yung geo-tagging.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000529Yep, Mr. Chairman, thank you very much.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000530Unfortunately, mag-expire na yung aking time.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000531May second round pa naman.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000532Thank you, ah, COA family.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000533Ah, thank you, Representative Mauricio Dumogan, sir.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000534May we proceed with the minority.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000535Representative Iris Montes, ma'am.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000536Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000537Magandang hapon po sa COA, sa ating lahat.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000538Ah, let me begin by saying that alam naman po nating lahat
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000539kung ano ang role namin.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000540Ah, napakahalaga ng role na ginagampanan ng COA,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000541especially during these times,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000542na talamak po talaga yung mga issues sa korupsyon.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000543I cannot overemphasize your role, ano po.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000544And then, dito din po sa Kongreso,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000545meron din po kaming oversight functions that we really have to do.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000546And bahagi po ng oversight function na yan,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000547ay, ah, nakaasa po kami sa COA
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000548pagdating sa mga AAR, sa annual audit reports.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000549Because, um, I have been in, ah, before being a,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000550Congresswoman, I've been in Congress for the last three decades.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000551And I would always rely on the audit reports of COA
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000552to be able to frame questions
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000553so that my principal would be able to write,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000554to ask the right questions, ano.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000555So, um, itatanong ko po tungkol po,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000556can you walk us through very briefly
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000557paano po ginagawa ang AARs?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000558Um, halimbawa po for 2026, itong 2026,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000559can you explain to us very briefly how to go about it?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000560Magandang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000561hapon po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000562Um, mamaya po, ah, if you could, ah, give the floor po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000563to Assistant Commissioner Cese.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000564But, ah, I would like to give you po an overview
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000565of, ah, the annual audit report.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000566Yung annual audit report po ay katumbas po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000567ng audited financial statements po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000568ng mga private companies.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000569Ang may, ah, nakabase po sa aming batas,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000570ah, Presidential Decree 1445,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000571ah, we require,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000572all the auditees po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000573to, ah, submit their trial balances
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000574or their, um, their initial balance sheet
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000575and income statement on February 14
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000576of the following year.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000577Kaya po kung 2025 po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000578they are required to meet the deadline
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000579until February 14 of 2026.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000580Pagkasubmit po nila ng mga trial balances po nila,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000581um
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000582ang pinakasimula po ng proseso
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000583ng pag-audit po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000584nagsisimula pa nga ho yan ng
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000585bago 2026.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000586Meron ho kami mga prosesong tinatawag na
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000587yung mga audit sector po namin,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000588nag-i-issue po ng mga general audit instructions,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000589part ho yan ng planning phase.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000590Then, susunod ho yan, bababa pa yan,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000591at magkakaroon po ng tinatawag namin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000592specific audit instructions, pababa.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000593But the actual work begins po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000594when we start scrutinizing,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000595the paperwork is when they start submitting
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000596their trial balances.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000597So February 14.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000598Magkakaroon po kami ng mga tinatawag naming
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000599entrance conferences.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000600So this is the time that
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000601we start discussing po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000602with the auditee,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000603yung dating mga findings po ng COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000604Kung ano po ang mga naresolva,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000605kung ano po yung bitin,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000606at kailangan po hong gawin.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000607So aside from the financials,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000608we also take a look at the audit findings
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000609of the previous year and its resolution.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000610Then moving forward po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000611yung mga audit teams that are assigned,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000612assuming po ito ay singular entity,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000613wala po siyang sabihin nating regional office,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000614so we only have one audit team
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000615to take a look at this,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000616and they are given po a deadline
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000617so that by June 30 po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000618tapos na po yung kanilang annual audit report.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000619Ito po ay isang overview.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000620But for certain agencies po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000621that are multi-office,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000622tulad ho ng may mga regional offices,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000623tulad ho ng Department of Education,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000624na maraming ho silang district schools,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000625maraming din ho silang regional offices,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000626So meron ng proseso
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000627sa ibang areas po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000628na we start auditing from the ground,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000629may mga auditors po kami sa iba-ibang region,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000630they submit their audit reports,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000631to the central auditing team,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000632and the central auditing team po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000633will consolidate these reports.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000634So we have what we call
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000635the consolidated annual audit reports.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000636So kung malaki ho yung ahensya,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000637baka magtaka po kayo,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000638kakaiba ang tawag ho namin ka-R,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000639dahil ho consolidated.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000640Yung mga ibang ahensya ho na singular entity,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000641AR lang po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000642But they're all the same po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000643So come June 30 po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000644ito po ay natapos na po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000645nakausap na po yung ahensya.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000646Then comes the reglamentary periods
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000647that we observe,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000648yung tinatawag ho ni
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000649Assistant Commissioner Nilda po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000650na may 60 days.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000651Then, eventually po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000652based on the General Appropriations Act,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000653that's the deadline we are given
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000654to publish po sa COA report.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000655Although po, yung publication po namin kakaiba,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000656sa aming website,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000657may ibang kakaibang deadline naman po kami sa Kongreso.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000658Dahil po, nauuna rin po kayong nakakatanggap
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000659ng mga audit reports na kinakailangan ho sa budget,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000660kakaiba naman po yung nilalagay ho namin sa website.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000661Magkapareho yung report.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000662Iba lang po yung panahon
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000663ng aming pagpo-post po sa website.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000664In other words,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000665what is the turn-around time?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000666For instance, yung fiscal year 2024,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000667kailan po dapat nailabas yung Consolidated Audit Report?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000668Kung fiscal year 2024 po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000669ito po ay lalabas ng June of 2025,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000670that is the deadline.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000671Then, mapapublish po ito,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000672base dun po sa requirements po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000673or instructions po ng GAA.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000674Which is?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000675That time po, it was December 31,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000676of 2025.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000677Pinaaga lang po ngayong 2026 po yung requirement po.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000678So, what is the latest AAR meron po kayo ngayon?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000679Nasa report po ninyo 2025 is already available?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000680Nasaan po yung 2025?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000681Nasa website because 10 minutes ago,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000682I checked the website, wala pa po doon.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000683Nasaan po siya?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000684Ang deadline po ngayong taon po ay October 31, 2025
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000685for publication po sa website.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000686Pero transmitted na po sa mga ahensya
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000687ng June 30 po yung kopya po nila.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000688So 2024 pa lang dapat talaga ang available by now?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000689Yes po. Tama po.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000690So, is there a way we can fast track it?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000691Ano po mag mga delays ang pwede nating ma-address
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000692or mga challenges so that we can advance it a little bit
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000693para pagdating dito sa Kongreso medyo updated po
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000694yung fiscal year na ating pinagbabase?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000695If I could turn over the floor po sa isa sa mga assistant commissioners po namin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000696to give you an insight po as to what are the usual concerns
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000697and what causes the bottlenecks po for the publication.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000698Thank you po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000699Hello. Good afternoon po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000700Based on that overview po and looking at the legal deadlines po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000701actually we are on time naman po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000702In fact, if there are certain challenges po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000703like for example, an auditee is not able to submit the financial statements
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000704kasi dapat po all or nothing.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000705So that's when we accept na kompleto yung financial statements.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000706Kahit ganun pa man po yung situation,
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000707we still come up with an audit report minus the FS.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000708It will follow po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000709So management letter po yun.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000710In short po, namimit naman po namin lahat yung deadlines for the output.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000711Henceforth po, this year and even last year, June 30,
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000712well delivered po lahat yung aming annual audit reports,
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000713consolidated annual audit reports,
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000714even the management letters po for the foreign assisted projects.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000715Kasi may mga reports po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000716That started last year.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000717Lahat po na-deliver namin.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000718I think yung issue lang po would be kung kailan po ipapublish
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000719that will be for the public consumption po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000720Pero again, we were also able to deliver din po sa mga oversight bodies
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000721yung mga reports po right after the June 30 deadline po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000722And other than that din po, meron din po yung submissions namin sa mga committees,
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000723sa House of Representatives, sa Senate po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000724Those who require the reports for their studies,
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000725for these budget hearings po, meron po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000726It's just that of course we have protocols to follow po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000727Like there are certain watermarks, ganun po.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000728Kailan niyo po na-submit yung para sa Congress?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000729If I may ask, please.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000730I'm not sure of the actual dates po for the national government audit sector,
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000731but I'm pretty sure na-submit na po lahat sa oversight bodies po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000732Kung merong last lang na na-release, it would be yung isang agency po namin
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000733kasi ang dami pa hong ginawa sa aming KR, which is the DPWH po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000734But we also gave advance copies po dun sa DPWH na Consolidated Annual Audit Report.
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-000735Yun lang naman po for the national government sector po.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000736Maraming salamat po.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000737Maraming salamat po.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000738Yung nabanggit din po kanina ng ating kasamahan si Kong Dumogan kanina,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000739yung tungkol sa pre-audit.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000740So ang tatanong ko po, are you not doing it?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000741At present po, hindi po kaya kasi your honors.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000742Kaya nga po ang nangyari po sa amin, naghahabol na lang po kami sa fraud audit.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000743Kasi po ano eh, kukulang po talaga kami ng personnel to do it po.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000744I understand po.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000745Pero if it was already a recurring concern, if it's already a recurring concern,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000746I understand, we don't even have to wait for a bill for you to be able to do that.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000747In fact, COA has already the constitutional and statutory authority to conduct pre-audits and implement the pre-audit on its own.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000748So I also share yung sentiment ni Kong.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000749I also share yung sentiment ni Kong Percy kanina na kung corruption nga ay ating priority that it should have been reflected in the budget of mismo po ng COA
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000750who's supposed to do the audits and flag down wrongdoings, discrepancies, o kung anuman pong anomalya.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000751So ang next ko pong tanong, doon po sa mga sinubmit, are you, do you, meron po ba kayong mechanism pag nagsasubmit?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000752Doon po sa mga sinubmit, meron po kayong mechanism pag nagsasubmit po kayo ng budget sa DBM?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000753Na ito, ang pinaka-marganda... Binibigyan ba kayo ng pagkakataong magpaliwatin?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000754magpaliwanag.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000755Because what I
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000756can do
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000757on my own is for
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000758at the proper time sa floor deliberation
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000759ng DBM, I will also have to
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000760ask them, bakit
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000761hindi nabigyan ng karampatang
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000762budget kung talagang ipinaglaban
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000763at mahalaga po
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000764para sa inyo yung hinihingi ninyong
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000765pondo. Hindi lamang po, while it
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000766is true that 92%, almost
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-00076792% of your budget is
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000768already dedicated for PS,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000769at kulang pa po yun,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000770pwede naman po natin ipaglaban
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000771kung talagang, diba,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000772kailangan po natin ipaglalaban
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000773po natin iyon para magawa
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000774po ng COA
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000775ang tungkulin po ninyo.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000776Ano po?
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000777Can I just manifest
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000778just little question?
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000779Importante yung filing of bill kasi
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000780nakalagay dyan, mandatory
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000781requisite of payment
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000782of government
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000783infrastructure projects.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000784Yes, they can do the pre-audit
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000785but kung binabayaran na
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-000786walang pre-audit, wala rin.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000787Walang ngipin. That's the importance
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000788of the same bill.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000789Yes, Mr. Chair, I do understand
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000790that, but even without that
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000791they can actually already do it
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000792on its own because it is already the
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000793statutory mandate to do so.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000794That bill would improve
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000795all the more yung inyong
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000796pong kapasidad to be able
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000797to do that.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000798Pertaining to our
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000799proposal for
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000800budget,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000801the process that we observe,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000802the Department
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000803of Budget Management
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000804provide us the budget
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000805ceiling, but
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000806only for the MOE
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000807and capital outlay. For
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000808the personal services, they're the one.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000809We are not the one proposing.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000810So, what we did
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000811after
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000812receiving the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000813budget ceiling, we proposed
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000814that we call this Tier 2
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000815our proposal.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000816But upon the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000817issuance of the NEP,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000818yun nakikita namin na the following
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000819items were not considered.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000820So, yun po ang processes na
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000821ginagawa namin.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000822Although we submitted naman
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000823justifications.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000824Kuling
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000825katanungan na lamang po,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000826maari po bang maliwanagan
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000827ako itong
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000828component ng COA ISSP.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000829Parang computerization, digitalization
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000830po yata ito.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000831Does it also include halimbawa
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000832yung mga procurement of modern
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000833or napapanahong mga
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000834pamamaraan ng
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000835pag-iimbestigan ninyo para mas
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000836mapadali ang trabaho, mas maging accurate,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000837mas maging efficient?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000838Kasama po ba yun dito? Can you please
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000839give me lang
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000840a little, very briefly
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000841kung ano po itong programa ninyo,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000842itong hindi na-aprubahan ng
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000843DBM?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000844Doon po sa MOE, it pertains to the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000845semi-expendable information
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000846communication technology,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000847office productivity and ICT
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000848projects. Then,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000849doon naman sa capital outlay,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000850yung sa ISSP is
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000851the ICT equipment and software.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000852So, yun po ang
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000853pertaining to ISSP.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000854Part lang po yun sa MOE.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000855The other
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000856part of the MOE is the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000857MOE requirements
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000858for the citizen
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000859participatory audit.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000860Mr. Chair, yung citizen
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000861participatory audit, because I already
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000862raised that sa COA during the last
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000863budget hearing, during your budget
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000864deliberation. Can you
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000865tell us exactly kung ano po yan?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000866Anong mekanismo niyan?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000867Ako na po sasagot.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000868Ang citizens
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000869participatory audit ay isang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000870programa na nilunsad po ng COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000871na nakakasama po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000872namin ng mga ilang miyembro po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000873ng mga NGO, mga CSO.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000874Practically po, mga private
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000875citizens.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000876They help us in auditing.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000877So, meron pong
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000878kaakibat pong budget po to.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000879Dahil hindi naman po namin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000880sila basta-basta hinihikayat
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000881at sila ho gumagastos.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000882May mga gastusin po na
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000883COA po ang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000884nag-shoulder.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000885Nung nakaraang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000886taon po, we had
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000887this program, but
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000888on a very
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000889small level, dahil
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000890yung budget na naibigay po ay
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000891medyo kulang din po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000892I think for this year din po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000893may kakulangan din po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000894So, we're trying to fit in po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000895whatever we can and whatever is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000896afforded us. And that's what
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000897we fit into this program.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000898Kung may mga privado pong
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000899mga ibang sektor na
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000900willing naman pong gumastos
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000901na hindi magagamit po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000902yung budget, wala naman pong
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000903problema. Pero pag ang COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000904po ang gagastos po at
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000905hindi naman po kami rin pwedeng
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000906lumampas po sa naibigay na budget
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000907po sa amin. So, the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000908extent of how
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000909far we can actually
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000910tap this program
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000911also depends on the budget
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000912po given to COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000913to trigger this program po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000914So, it becomes, it is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000915a big help po if this
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000916program is expanded
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000917simply because if
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000918we lack manpower,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000919we have people out there po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000920who may not be exactly the same
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000921profession we have, engineers or
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000922certified public accountants.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000923But in a way po, dahil
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000924they are part of organizations,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000925they can equip themselves
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000926po and they have networks to
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-000927assist COA po sa audit. Maraming salamat po.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000928Maraming salamat po. Mr. Chair,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000929maraming salamat po. My time is up.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000930So, okay na po ako.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-000931Maraming salamat.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000932Thank you, Representative
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000933Iris Montes, ma'am.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000934We proceed with the majority.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000935Representative
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-000936Tony Roman, sir.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000937Magandang hapon po sa inyo.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000938Konting katanungan lang.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000939Sorry po for being late. So, some of my
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000940questions may have been answered already.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000941To the extent they have been answered, just summarize it lang.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000942It's really
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000943more understanding the processes within
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000944COA.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000945ano?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000946Starting and it's really helpful to have
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000947a historical perspective of the budget
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000948proposals. Ito hong
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000949sa chart nyo,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000950yung budget proposal nyo,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000951is 17 million, 17.2
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000952million, tama po ba?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000953Billion, in thousand,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000954billion, sorry.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-00095517.2 billion, is that correct?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000956How does this, sorry.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000957Yes, sir.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000958How does this compare to last year's
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000959proposal in
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-0009602026?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000961For the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000962GA,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000963fiscal year 2026,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000964we have the total
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000965allotment of
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-00096615
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000967billion, 610
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000968million, 903,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000969as against for
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000970the 2027
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000971of 16 billion, 46
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000972million,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000973527.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000974Okay. So, tumaas po yung
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000975net nyo for this year?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000976Yes, because of our
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000977P.E.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000978Yes, the fourth branch of the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000979salary standardization, and
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000980yung tungkol doon sa
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000981MR was
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000982partially granted,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000983so mayroong component,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000984sa P.S. lang po siya,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000985ang may increase. The MOE,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000986mayroong reduction, and then
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000987the capital outlay, it was not considered.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000988Okay. So,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000989parang scheduled yung increase
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000990na yun, no? Dahil sa salary
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000991standardization. Ang tanong ko po,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000992actually, ang tanong ko po, yung
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000993magkano po yung budget proposal nyo for
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-0009942026? O, last year po,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000995last year.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-00099616 billion,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000997990 million, 664.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000998O, so out of
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-000999the 16 billion, 16.9
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001000billion, i-round off ko na lang po,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001001ang nag-grant po, ay
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-00100215.6
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001003billion. This year,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-00100417 billion,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001005rata na grant, eh, 16
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-00100616 billion, no?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001007Yes.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001008Rounded off. So, parang these are like
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001009modest
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001010increases
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001011in the budget proposal, and
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001012modest increases in the
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001013NEP. And I, medyo
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001014nabuta ko po yung parte na
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001015binabanggit na
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001016meron kayo mga gustong ilunsad
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001017ng mga programa na hindi yung may ilunsad.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001018In particular,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001019yun sa capital outlay, and
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001020using technology to help you perform
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001021your work, na hindi po nagawa
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001022yun.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001023Yung expansion,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001024hindi po kayo makapagdagdag ng tao, tama po ba?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001025Hindi.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001026Actually, meron pong nadagdag, but
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001027it was based on the
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001028personnel na binilig po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001029ng DBM sa amin,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001030which is around 300.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001031So, it's already part of the budget na po.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001032Okay. And then, kung hindi nyo
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001033mapaparami yung mga tao,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001034ang iniisip nyo, technology na lang
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001035gagamitin. Pero dito,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001036hindi po kayo napagbigyan.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001037No capital outlay.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001038No capital outlay. Ano yung dahilan na binigay?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001039So, wala.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001040Hindi kayo nagtanong?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001041Upon receipt na lang,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001042we learned it upon the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001043issuance of the NEP.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001044Naluha ko ba kayo?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001045Nung nakuha nyo yun?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001046Upo.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001047Kung ako yun, maluluha ako eh.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001048So, kung
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001049mabibigyan ro kayo ng pagkakataon na
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001050nagdagdagan yung pondo ninyo,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001051ano ko yung mga programa na
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001052gusto nyong isulong?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001053O kung yung mga gamit na kailangan ninyo
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001054para masagbagampanan ninyo yung
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001055trabaho ninyo?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001056At,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001057kakibat yan,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001058magkano po yun?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001059Three wishes lang ah. Three wishes.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001060We prepared a
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001061letter
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001062requesting reconsideration
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001063before the Speaker of the House.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001064This is subject for the approval
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001065of the Chair.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001066Kung ano yung letter,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001067yung mga nakasulot yan.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001068Our wish list,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001069ay yung
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001070semi-expendable na
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001071P213.686 million
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001072and also
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001073the MOE for the CPA
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001074P40.734 million.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001075Then, the capital
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001076outlay, we have the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001077ICT equipment of
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001078P525.405 million.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001079The supply
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001080and installation of furniture and
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001081fixture for our offices
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001082for building
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-0010832,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001084125.523 million.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001085And, kung po pwede,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001086the last,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001087the motor vehicles for our
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001088three officials.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001089Three lang naman po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001090Including the NIR.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001091Magkano po yung mga sasakyan?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-0010925.6 million.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001093Ilang pasa po kayo, three lang eh.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001094Ay?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001095Kung pipili po kayo ng tatlo,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001096if you had to prioritize,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001097Sige,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001098Huli na lang yung motor vehicles.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001099So, which would you pick of the,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001100one, two, three, four, five.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001101Up to the... huwag na lang mo muna yung
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001102motor vehicles.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001103I'm trying to see your prioritization eh,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001104because that also reflects your need.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001105We need the supply and installation of the furniture
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001106so that we can, ah, move the...
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001107Yan po yung P125.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001108Yes, apo.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001109Ano po yung tatlong item na pipiliin ninyo?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001110Ah, for the MOE,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001111MOE?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001112Ah, 213.686 million
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001113and, ah,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001114P40.734 million.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001115So, the total amount of MOE
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001116that was not considered
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001117then the capital outlay,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001118the ICT,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001119ah, of 525.405 million
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001120and the supply and installation of furniture.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001121So, yun na yun.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001122Yun tatlo?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001123Ah, okay. So, yung ICT, yung capital outlay
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001124and the furniture. Tama po ba?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001125Yung MOE.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001126Okay. Yung tatlong yun. Malaking ba-a-a-a
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001127party po nun yung capital outlay, no?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001128yung technology. Kasi kung
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001129hindi nyo madadagdagan at papaparaming
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001130yung staff ninyo,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001131gagamitin yung technology. That's a way of
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001132expanding your presence. Tama po ba?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001133Yes po.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001134Now, alam ko, ang
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001135inyong mandato ay
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001136pumuna. Di ba?
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001137Namumuna po kayo ng mga transaksyon.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001138Diba? Sinisilip ninyo.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001139That is a good characterization
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001140para sinisimplify ko lang.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001141Ano at
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001142pag may napuna kayo,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001143binibigyan nyo ang pagkakataon na ayusin.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001144Tama.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001145We issue an audit
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001146observation memorandum, giving
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001147them a chance to explain or to correct it po, Your Honors.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001148At kapag hindi na ayos,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001149bari mahinog yan maging admin
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001150case o kaya criminal case, tama po ba?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001151Nangyari po, Your Honors,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001152ay nagiging notice of disallowance
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001153or notice of suspension.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001154And then if we see po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001155a problem
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001156with it sa
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001157graft and corruption,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001158we endorse it also to the Office of the Ombudsman.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001159Paano nyo sinasukat yung
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001160success nyo sa
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001161bagay na yan? Kung inu-endorse
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001162nyo sa Office of the Ombudsman,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001163ano po yung
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001164success metric na ginagamit nyo, panukat?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001165Actually po, the Office of the
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001166Ombudsman considers it, Your Honor.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001167At ginagamit po nila ito
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001168to file, nagkakaroon po sila
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001169ng preliminary investigation
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001170based on our submissions.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001171submissions and then kapag nakita
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001172po nila na there's a prima facie
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001173evidence, pina-file
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001174po nila sa Sandigan Bayan ng kaso, Your Honor.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001175Meron po ba kayong
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001176success rate
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001177na manasabi sa dami na mga
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001178in-endorse mo nyo sa Office ng Ombudsman
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001179like X percent ang nakasuhan
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001180or anything like that?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001181Hindi ko lang po hawak ang data ngayon
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001182but mataas po ang aming batting average.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001183Ah, okay.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001184And then lastly, kaugnay doon sa unang tanong ko
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001185sa kahalagahan ng technology
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001186pagkakamitin ng technology na
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001187naulamaan ko, unang-una yung technology
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001188nakakabata pag ginagamit.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001189Tama? Okay.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001190Marami ho na ngiti sa ngiti sa likod
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001191nakaka-relate.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001192Meron ho ko yung ifinal na
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001193panukalang batas yung kadena bill
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001194okay, na ang
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001195actually nagbigay po ako ng sulat kanina, gusto ko
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001196sana makuha yun yung pananaw
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001197at kumaari inyong suporta.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001198Ang mungkahi ko po
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001199doon, gawing end-to-end
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001200ah, hindi lang sa
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001201expenditure side, pati yung
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001202revenue side. Kasi doon
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001203natin makikita, yung
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001204aking analogy yung tollgate eh.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001205Yung tollgate, kung
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-00120610,000 na dumaan sa tollgate
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001207pero ang dideklara lang ay 8,000
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001208sa napunta yung 2,000.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001209So in-account natin,
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-0012108,000, actually dapat in-account 10,000.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001211Ano? Pasahero.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001212Where do you stand on that? Do you believe
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001213that dapat isama yung revenue
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001214side bukod sa expenditure side?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001215Um, Your Honor,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001216we agree with your proposal po na
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001217kasama ang revenue side.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001218Because kasama naman po sa
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001219amin mandate to check kung
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001220nasisingil ba or na
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001221kukolekta ba ng government
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001222yung mga dapat kolektahin.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001223Kapag hindi po nagawa, yun yung tinatawag po yung
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001224notice of charge po naman yun.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001225Meron na ho ba kayong position paper dyan?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001226I would have to check, Your Honor, but we will,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001227kung wala pa po, we will submit and we will support
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001228your bill, Your Honor.
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III
asr-001229Okay, marami salamat po. Thank you.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001230We got it po. We will submit our position
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001231paper supporting your draft
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001232bill, Your Honor. Salamat.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001233Thank you.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001234I would like to
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001235acknowledge our
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001236committee chair on
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001237accounts, Representative
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001238Maricar Zamora.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001239May I proceed with
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001240the minority,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001241Representative Robert
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001242Nazal. Sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001243Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001244Good afternoon.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001245Commissioner, commissioners,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001246and good afternoon to the
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001247COA family.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001248I'd like to begin.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001249I want to ask about
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001250transparency and accountability
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001251over earmarked revenues.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001252Government
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001253repeatedly invokes the one fund
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001254concept and tells us that cash
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001255is fungible. That once
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001256revenues enter the treasury,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001257the cash may temporarily be used
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001258for other government
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001259cash requirements.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001260I understand cash
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001261management, but cash
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001262being fungible does not mean
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001263government should no longer be accountable
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001264or transparent about
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001265where earmarked cash is temporarily
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001266used. So my question is,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001267does COA actually track the
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001268cash corresponding to earmarked fund
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001269balances once treasury
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001270temporarily uses that cash
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001271elsewhere?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001272Kung meron pong kayang sagutin ng yes
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001273or no in the interest of time,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001274sagutin na lang po natin ang yes or no.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001275Magandang hapon po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001276We are coordinating po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001277with DBM.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001278When the issue was raised po last year
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001279regarding the earmarked funds,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001280we have been monitoring the earmarked funds po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001281In fact,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001282we have their latest report
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001283as of May of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-0012842026.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001285They have committed po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001286DBM has committed to
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001287include in their portal po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001288to be more transparent as to
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001289these types of funds.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001290Ito po yung mga earmarked funds at yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001291tinatawag naming SAGF
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001292or mga special funds
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001293subject to monitoring.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001294Ang isang tinitingnan lang po namin,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001295ang point of coordination po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001296na tinitingnan namin po yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001297detalya is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001298these funds,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001299meron pong mga statutory
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001300appropriations, ito po yung automatic.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001301May mga funds po daw sila na
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001302tinatawag nilang subject po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001303to a further
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001304GAA issuance.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001305But more or less po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001306COA has been tracking these funds.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001307Ang kailangan lang po namin,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001308point of coordination lang po sa
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001309DBM is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001310despite the one fund concept,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001311that these funds remain intact
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001312and ang habol po namin is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001313it is only spent
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001314for the purpose of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001315the fund.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001316Doon po namin ito ino-audit.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001317Ang nakita lang namin po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001318isa sa mga concern po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001319is there may be a fund,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001320of a certain sum.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001321Ang nakikita po namin concern would be
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001322yung releases po or how
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001323the Bureau of Treasury and the DBM
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001324releases these funds for the use
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001325of the agency.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001326Pagdating naman po doon sa aspeto na yun po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001327doon po namin tinitingnan
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001328how the funds are used
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001329if ever they are released.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001330Pagdating naman po, if the funds are
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001331maintained po by the Bureau
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001332of Treasury and not released,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001333then it's a concern po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001334between, we flag it
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001335with DBM, but eventually
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001336po, their main
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001337reason for the fiscal
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001338space is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001339something we also
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001340consider. But overall po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001341we keep track and take
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001342a look at the funds because the moment
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001343these funds po are used for something
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001344outside the purpose they were meant for,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001345we come up with our
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001346audit observations and memorandum po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001347So, the moment
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001348these things are released,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001349then we keep track of them because
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001350they can only be disbursed for this.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001351So, sa madaling salita po,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001352you're saying that
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001353ever since we
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001354pinag-usapan natin to
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001355and binanggit nila that cash is
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001356fungible, yung earmark
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001357hindi nyo po pinapayagan
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001358na gamitin elsewhere for any
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001359other purpose other than what is
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001360what it's earmarked for
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001361by the law. Yes po.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001362And if they, if ever
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001363meron gagamitin,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001364for any other purpose, you will flag it?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001365Yes po. That's the reason
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001366why we audit the specific,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001367the moment the fund is released po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001368to the agency, we
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001369follow the money
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001370trail so that it is only spent
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001371for the purpose for which
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001372the fund is built for. You're saying
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001373that you're only monitoring
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001374it once the fund is released
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001375to the agency? Yes po.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001376Paano po yung, for example,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001377yung, halimbawa,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001378yung spectrum users,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001379let's just cite this
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001380as an example. So, nanggagaling
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001381po yan sa payment
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001382ng mga
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001383telco, no?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001384And then, it's supposed to be
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001385used for the purpose of
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001386free Wi-Fi. San po siya
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001387nakadeposito?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001388Ito po ay kinukolekta po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001389ng National Telecommunications Commission
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001390but they have to deposit
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001391this to the Bureau of Treasury.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001392So, when it's deposited to the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001393Bureau of Treasury, hindi nyo siya
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001394minumonitor? The moment
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001395pagkatanggap po ng NTC,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001396i-audit po namin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001397that this is recorded
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001398in the books and eventually
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001399transmitted po to the Bureau of Treasury.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001400The moment the Bureau of Treasury po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001401along with
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001402the DBM, releases this
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001403for the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001404for the free Wi-Fi
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001405purpose po, like DICT po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001406ang implementor. Dun lang kayo po mapasok?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001407Dun po kami papasok. Dahil po, yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001408pondo pong yan,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001409COA comes in for
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001410accounting and auditing. But
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001411how DBM or the Bureau
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001412of Treasury manages the fund
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001413is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001414an executive function. Pagdating naman po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001415ng gastos, we make sure
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001416na ito ay ginastos
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001417for that purpose. So, ang sinasabi nyo po,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001418habang hindi pa natatransfer ng Bureau
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001419of Treasury dun sa
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001420department, hindi nyo covered yun.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001421So, kung gamitin nila elsewhere,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001422yung pondo at maubos,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001423hindi nyo monitored yun.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001424Hindi nyo obligasyon.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001425We keep track po of the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001426special fund.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001427If there are any charges or additions,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001428that's what we audit po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001429Now, if there
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001430is one point in time
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001431where the one fund concept, dahil po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001432in terms of accounting
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001433entries po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001434just like with a private corporation, they can
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001435set up a lot of funds.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001436But they can maintain one depository account
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001437for those funds.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001438Now, yung totality po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001439ng mga special funds na to, if you sum
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001440them up, and they remain
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001441intact as far as cash is concerned,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001442then the presumption
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001443of the one fund concept po, as
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001444explained by DBM, is the fund is there.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001445Now, if they spend
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001446a peso
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001447out of that, and they charge the fund,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001448that makes the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001449assumption po, that that fund
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001450was the one that was disbursed
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001451because it was the one that was
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001452debited po, or that was
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001453the fund was reduced to that extent.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001454So, possibly po, accounting
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001455entry lang yun. Pero yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001456bondo, with the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001457Bureau of Treasury, hindi na ganun yung amount.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001458They explain po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001459in that the fund,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001460the moment it is in their
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001461books as a credit, as long
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001462as it does not move po, then
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001463that remains to be
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001464an intact fund, or the
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001465balance of the fund po. And if
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001466they say so, we won't
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001467audit that. Hindi mo po natin sisiguraduhin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001468na dapat ganun yung totoo yung sinasabi nila.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001469Yan ito po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001470When we take a look at
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001471all their financial transactions
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001472po, and they
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001473spend, as long as they
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001474do not charge the fund,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001475assuming po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001476as long as they do not charge the fund,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001477the fund remains intact. So that
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001478means, if an agency po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001479requires the fund,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001480then the fund should be made available
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001481also to the agency po.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001482E paano po kung, for example,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001483katulad yung sa DICT,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001484hinihingi po nila
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001485yung pondo nila, pero
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001486ang sabi ng DICT, they publicly
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001487admitted that 12 government digital systems
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001488had to be disabled because it could not afford
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001489additional cloud server capacity.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001490Kasi, yung hinihingi nila para
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001491dun sa free wifi, hindi po
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001492mabigay ng DBM.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001493Tingnan po namin yun.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001494The last time we were also
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001495base po sa mga
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001496annual audit reports po ng DICT,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001497which we also monitor,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001498the department po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001499as far as the DICT is concerned, is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001500one of the few who have
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001501very low budget utilization
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001502rates po. Pero namamatay
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001503na nga po yung mga nila, hindi nila
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001504kasi hindi nila nababayarin yung subscription.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001505Kasi hindi nabibigay yung pera
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001506para dun sa what it was
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001507intended for. And
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001508pagka, paano po kung,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001509let's say, ang ilagay nila,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-00151025 billion or 26 billion pa rin
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001511ang laman yan. Pero,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001512one reason or another, nagamit
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001513natin. And the government,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001514may downturn tayo. Hindi tayo
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001515makautang. Hindi nila mabalik. Paano yun?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001516We will
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001517try to coordinate po with the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001518Bureau of Treasury para to point out po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001519So, ang binabantayan po namin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001520is, if the fund is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001521used, and there are
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001522movements in the account po, as a fund,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001523dun po pumapasok
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001524ang koa. Pagdating naman po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001525sa decision
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001526po ng DBM at the Bureau of Treasury
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001527to release the fund po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001528it's something between the agency po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001529and
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001530the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001531DBM and BTR. Ang binabantayan po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001532namin is, kung anytime
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001533po gumalaw yung pondo,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001534makikita rin po namin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001535sa kabuwan, if
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001536the BTR has so much
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001537cash, then it
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001538spends based on its budget
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001539and does not book
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001540any charges po on the fund.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001541So, accounting wise
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001542or audit wise po, the fund was not
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001543used. But if
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001544it turns out that the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001545BTR or DBM
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001546started using
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001547more than its budget,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001548then wala po yung cash.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001549Then, lumalabas po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001550hindi na nagsisynchronize po yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001551trust fund, and whatever
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001552funds it should have, koa
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001553will also flag it did po.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001554But no matter what po, hindi po ba
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001555dapat, whatever movement,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001556at hindi nila i-book,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001557dapat minomonitor nyo.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001558Naka-monitor po yung fund.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001559Overall po, like
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001560for any other agency which has special
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001561funds, and which has general funds,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001562this thing is seen
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001563as a holistic
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001564view po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001565So, as long as the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001566fund has not been charged,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001567like, kung may budget po siya
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001568sa PS, MOE, and capital
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001569outlay, at yung narilis po yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001570pondo na yun for those items,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001571minomonitor po yung budget utilization
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001572rates for those items.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001573Makikita't makikita po, pag lumampas
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001574po yung utilization nila against
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001575what was budgeted, that's
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001576the time po, it becomes a red flag
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001577that some other fund, or
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001578the source was from somewhere po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001579But as long as an agency does
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001580not exceed whatever it
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001581was given, first as a budget,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001582then SARO, then NCA po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001583So, the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001584assumption is, it was
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001585funded. But the moment nag-disalign
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001586po ito, it should, it would
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001587have come from somewhere, kaya
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001588magiging critical ho yung review ho
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001589ng special funds.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001590Anyway,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001591cash is fundable may explain how
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001592treasury manages cash, but it should never
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001593become an exemption from transparency
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001594and accountability. So, dapat po,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001595minomonitor natin, whether
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001596i-book nila o hindi, nakikita
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001597natin kung saan pumupunta, at saan
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001598dinadala. Anyway, let me get,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001599balik na lang po tayo dyan.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001600Punta muna ako sa manufactured savings.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001601This is where
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001602I would like
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001603to ask about what I call
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001604yung tinatawag po nila na manufactured savings.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001605Let's use DPWH
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001606as an example. There are
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001607projects that already have SAROs, have
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001608undergone bidding, and passed rigorous
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001609requirements under NBC 595.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001610In other words,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001611government itself already determined that these
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001612projects were feasible for
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001613implementation. Yes,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001614Yet, DPWH has not issued the sub-allotment advice or SAA for some of the projects.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001615DBM in a previous hearing also told us that NCA is not a prerequisite to issue a SAA and obligate the project.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001616So if there is no legal, technical, or funding impediment preventing implementation,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001617what valid reason would there be for the agency to continue withholding the SAA?
COA Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana C. Sese
asr-001618Mr. Chair, may we give the floor to our DPWH Supervising Auditor and now also Director of Cluster 7.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001619Good afternoon, sir.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001620Sir, I think there's nothing to transfer by the Central Office.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001621Please introduce yourself first.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001622Yes, sir. Good afternoon.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001623I'm Tracy Ann Sunico, sir, the OIC Director of Cluster 7, handling DPWH, DOT, DOE, and DOTR.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001624The Central Office will be the one transferring.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001625To the regional or district engineering offices which were funded or the programs, projects, and activities were downloaded to the Central Office.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001626So the implementing agency could either be the regional office, the district engineering offices, or the Central Office, sir.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001627In case of SAA, wherein the implementing office
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001628It will either be the regional or the district engineering office.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001629So under the GAA, it was originally identified to be implemented by the Central Office.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001630So if there is no SARO or NCAA issued by the DBM or the Department of Finance,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001631there is nothing to be transferred to the district or the regional office, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001632Ang tinatanong ko po, lahat ng naisuhan ng SARO?
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001633Yes, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001634Na hindi naisuhan ng SAA.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001635Yes, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001636Bakit?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001637Yung every project na no legal, technical, or funding impediment preventing implementation.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001638Yes, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001639May SARO, pero hindi inisuhan ng SAA.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001640Ano yung dahilan?
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001641Sir, in our audit of the DPWH, sir, I think wala naman pong ganung case, sir.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001642Except siguro, sir, where the district or the regional office.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001643The regional offices have not submitted the required supporting documents for the Central Office to issue the SAA, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001644Napakadami pong project na ganun.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001645Kaya nga po, kaya ako po tinatanong ito.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001646Because there are so many projects na hindi na-implement.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001647Yes, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001648Because, simply because may SARO na siya, from DBM's point of view, na-issuehan siya ng SARO,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001649dapat obligated na siya, pero hindi po in-implement.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001650Opo.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001651Ngayon, ang nangyari po dun is parang,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001652kaya ako tinatanong ito,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001653kasi, parang ang direction is,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001654dapat hindi siya maging, ayaw natin, or gusto natin maiwasan,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001655na maging manufactured savings siya.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001656Opo.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001657Kasi, kumbaga, na-issuehan, meron siyang SARO,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001658hindi in-issuehan ng SAA,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001659tapos, ika-cancel yung project,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001660tapos, gagawin na lang savings,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001661tapos, augmentation dapat.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001662Or gagamitin sa augmentation.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001663Opo.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001664Based on the previous audit, sir,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001665we noted that there were a lot of SAA released to the district and regional offices, sir,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001666which were reverted back to the central office
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001667due to non-readiness of the implementing agency, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001668Non-readiness of the implementing agency?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001669So, ang sinasabi nyo,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001670ang implementing agency is DPWH?
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001671Yes, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001672So, ang DPWH ang hindi ready?
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001673May mga ganong issues po kasi, sir,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001674na hindi pa rin ready yung district or yung regional office, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001675Can you submit a list of projects na ganun po yung nangyari?
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001676Yes, sir. Opo.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001677Kasi, wala po.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001678Kasi, based po sa NBC 595,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001679kung, alam nyo po yung circular, di ba?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001680Yes, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001681Ang dami po natin hiningi ng mga,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001682what do you call this, requirements,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001683additional requirements, aside from the GAA.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001684Opo.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001685So, pinirmahan na ng presidente yung GAA.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001686Nandun po sa GAA yung line item.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001687Yes, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001688Humingi tayo ng additional requirements
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001689dun sa NBC 595,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001690sinertify, kaya na-issuehan ng SARO.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001691So, ibig sabihin, ready na yung project to be undertaken.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001692Pero, tapos pinirmahan pa ng presidente uli yun,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001693sinertify uli.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001694And yet, and yet,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001695pagka nung na-bid na,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001696naisuhan ng SARO, ng DBM,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001697hindi in-implement ng DPWH.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001698We need hold lang yung SAA.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001699So, yun po ang tinatanong ko,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001700bakit we need hold yung SAA?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001701Kung ready, shovel ready yung project.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001702Opo.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001703So, what is the,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001704now, what is the
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001705COA doing
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001706to prevent this from happening?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001707Yun po ang aking tanong.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001708Yes, sir.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001709Ang pwede po namin gawin,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001710your honors, would be to coordinate with DPWH
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-001711and to flag them on this item.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001712Siyempre, yun po
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001713yun po ang kailangan natin malaman.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001714Because, syempre, this affects the
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001715economic
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001716situation of our country.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001717Yes.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001718If,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001719if we've already,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001720if Congress has already
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001721approved the GAA,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001722tapos, ito po ay investment natin,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001723inuutang pa natin for economic activity,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001724tapos, kailangan natin,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001725dapat ma-implement natin yung infrastructure na yan,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001726dahil inuutang natin yan eh.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001727We'll be paying interest on that.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001728Ngayon, it's only the department
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001729who will determine kung ano yung
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001730ma-implement tsaka hindi.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001731Hindi, parang tinatanggal nyo na po yung
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001732power of the purse
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001733sa Congress.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001734So, bali, wala na po yung GAA.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001735Parang,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001736where are you doing the budget already?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001737Parang ganon.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001738Yes.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001739So, that is what we want to prevent.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001740We agree with you, your,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001741Honor.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001742Last question, please,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001743Rep. Nazar.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001744Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001745So, Commissioner,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001746if an agency can withhold implementation
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001747of an item,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001748Congress appropriated,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001749allow it to become unobligated,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001750declare it a savings,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001751and then use that money
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001752to augment another item,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001753aren't we effectively allowing
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001754the executive
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001757to rewrite the budget
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001758after Congress has enacted the GAA.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001759So, if that becomes
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001760acceptable practice,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001761congressional appropriations
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001762become illusory
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001763and the GAA becomes
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001764meaningless in practice.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001765So, sana po, meron tayong
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001766what do you call this?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001767Meron po tayong mechanism
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001768to check
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001769para hindi na po
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001770mangyari ito.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001771Kasi, this will affect
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001772our economy.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001773Pagka sila po
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001774ang magpipigil.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001775So, any agency
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001776should not be able
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001777to do that.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001778So, dapat po
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001779na-check natin
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001780na pag na-issue na yung SARO,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001781dapat in-implement na po.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001782Can I go to
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001783off-budget accounts?
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001784Sige po.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001785Second round.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001786Balikan na lang po natin.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-001787Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001788You can do second round, sir.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001789Okay.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001790Thank you, Mr. Chair.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001791But we agree
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001792with the manifestations
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001793and the observations
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001794of Congressman
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001795Nassal, your honors.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001796Salamat.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001797Thank you po.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001798Thank you po, Chairman.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001799Thank you, Representative Nazal.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001800May we proceed
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001801with the majority.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001802Representative Ramil Hernandez, sir.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001803Okay.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001804Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001805Magandang hapon
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001806sa ating mga
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001807katrabaho sa COA.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001808So, follow-up question lang po ito.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001809Nung tinanong ko na rin
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001810last hearing
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001811o last year,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001812wala naman po akong
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001813bad experience sa COA
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001814kahit nung nasa
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001815local pa ako.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001816Pagdating sa mga dokumentong
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001817kinakailangan,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001818napoprovide at nailalabas po
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001819natin ng maayos.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001820Pero,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001821aware din po ako
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001822na isang tambak
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001823ang inyong file,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001824isang tambak
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001825ang inyong mga dokumento.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001826At nabanggit ko nung last year
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001827na dapat
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001828ay binabudgetan yan
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001829pagdating po sa
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001830upgrading
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001831o pagbabago
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001832ng technology.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001833Ang tanong ko po,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001834this year po ba,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001835meron kayong budget
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001836na inilagay dyan
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001837kahit hindi po bigla,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001838kahit,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001839by phasing lang,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001840by phasing lang,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001841para at least unti-unti
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001842ay na-upgrade natin
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001843yung recording
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001844or filing system
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001845ng COA.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001846Wala po kami
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001847capital outlay po
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001848for the next year.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-001849For next year.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001850Very important po yan.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001851Mr. Chair,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001852sana po naman
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001853na mabigyan ng
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001854consideration
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001855na kung wala yan
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001856sa budget ng COA
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001857this 2027,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001858sana po kahit
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001859hindi 100%,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001860sana po ay mabigyan
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001861para at least kahit pa paano
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001862ay nakakasimula po sila
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001863sa pag-upgrade.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001864Kasi po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001865your honors,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001866naniniwala po kami
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001867sa binanggitin nyo
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001868because we are required
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001869to keep the documents
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001870for 10 years po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001871Actually po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001872medyo nahihirapan po kami dun
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001873because physical,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001874storage.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001875So actually,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001876nagkaroon po kami
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001877ng bagong building
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001878but kinukulang pa rin po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001879Actually po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001880ang ano namin is
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001881if the law can be amended
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001882to
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001883to
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001884allow
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001885digital,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001886digital storage po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001887Sa ngayon po kasi
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001888it's physical.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001889Okay po,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001890please
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001891take note lang po
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001892na
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001893sama-sama po
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001894nating ilaban
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001895na mapondohan po yan.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001896Kung hindi man
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001897napalagay
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001898sa pondo ninyo
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001899at kung talagang
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001900walang magawang paraan
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001901this year,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001902sana naman
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001903next year
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001904ay mapasama na po yan.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001905Kasi,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001906kita ko po sa lokal,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001907konti-kontener,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001908yung mga dokumento nyo doon eh,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001909na naka-stack eh.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001910Eh,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001911of course,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001912sabi ko nga,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001913kahit nung ako ay nasa lokal,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001914wala naman akong problema
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001915kapag may mga dokumentong kailangan.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001916Pero,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001917I doubt,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001918kung sa iba,
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001919ganun din ang experience.
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001920Ano po?
Rep. Ramil L. Hernandez
asr-001921Thank you.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001922Thank you,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001923Representative Ramil Hernandez, sir.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001924We proceed with the minority.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001925Representative Renee Co.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-001926Ma'am.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001927Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001928And
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001929to the Commission,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001930good afternoon.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001931Last
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001932year po,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001933nagbigay po ng numbers
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001934yung Commission on Audit
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001935sa mga notices of suspension,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001936notices of disallowances,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001937and notices of charge
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001938na na-issue niya sa DPWH
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001939in the past 10 years.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001940But ever since then,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001941may na-uncover tayo na
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001942isang malaking
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001943or billions of pesos
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001944in flood control
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001945and in other DPWH projects
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001946na nandito din po
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001947malaki
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001948yung kickback schemes,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001949may corruption na nangyayari.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001950So,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001951pwede po bang
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001952ma-refresh yung publiko?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001953for the
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001954past year,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001955ilan po ba
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001956ang na-issue ng COA
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001957na notices of suspension,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001958disallowances,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001959and charges
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001960against DPWH?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001961Thank you, uh,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001962Your Honors.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001963Thank you,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001964um, Sir Chair.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001965Uh, actually po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001966I have the
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001967amounts po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001968kung okay po sa inyo.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001969As
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001970of
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001971as
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001972of
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001973starting
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-0019742025
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001975until mid
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-0019762026
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001977ang
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001978gawa
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001979po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001980natin
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001981notice of
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001982suspension
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001983is 107 billion
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001984771 po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001985Ano po ulit?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001986107
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001987billion
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001988771
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001989107.771 billion
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001990notice of suspension po yan.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001991How about po yung,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001992disallowance
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001993and charges?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-001994Meron na po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001995Notice
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001996of disallowance
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001997and notice
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001998of charges,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-00199951.277 po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002000Billion.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002001And
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002002ilan notices po yung
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002003in question dito?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002004Because these are amounts.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002005Pero yung number po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002006This
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002007is the
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002008only
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002009DPWH po ha.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002010May
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002011number
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002012po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002013Ikaw na po.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002014Ito kasi,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002015One
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002016minute
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002017lang po,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002018Your Honor
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002019Yes po,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002020take your time.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002021Thank you.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002022Ma’am
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002023bali
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002024yung mga
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002025issued natin dito
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002026for 2025
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002027and 2026,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002028it does not mean po that
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002029these are transactions,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002030for 2025
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002031and 2026,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002032nor,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002033specific
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002034that
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002035these were coming from
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002036GAAs of 2025 po.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002037Ibig sabihin po,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002038when these were audited
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002039by the,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002040uh, concerned
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002041audit
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002042teams,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002043it could be
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002044these transactions
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002045pertain to
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002046prior years po.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002047So,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002048the total issued,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002049NS
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002050for 2025
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002051and 26 po
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002052is
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-0020534,378
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002054and
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002055614
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002056respectively po.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002057Well,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002058for
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002059notices
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002060of
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002061disallowances po,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002062220
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002063transactions
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002064and 166
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002065for 2026.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002066And there are also
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002067notice of charges
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002068issued
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002069totaling
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002070111
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002071for 2025
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002072and 4
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002073for 2026 po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002074Opo. And
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002075yung mga amounts no,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002076tama,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002077107
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002078billion
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002079for the suspension.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002080How many po ulit yung sa
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002081disallowance and charges?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002082um, 51
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002083billion.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-00208451
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002085.277
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002086billion.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002087Ano na po yung round-off na lang po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002088your honors.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002089Okay.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002090And sa numbers
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002091na po ito, alin po
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002092yung because of
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002093ito ay nasa
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002094ga-a ng 2025-2026
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002095at flood control,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002096meron na po ba?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002097Your Honor, dahil hindi pa po submitted
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002098yung ibang transactions, hindi pa po
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002099nasama yung mga 2026 transactions
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002100dito. This pertains to
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002101prior years pa rin po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002102How about po flood control
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002103from 2020 to
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-0021042025, for example, dahil
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002105yun nga po ang na-uncovered din naman po
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002106na dito in the past years,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002107yung meteoric rise
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002108of flood control
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002109for those years. So kahit
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002110hindi naman po siya ng previous year
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002111in particular,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002112how much po dito yung flood control?
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002113Sa ngayon, ma'am, hindi po namin
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002114madetalihan, but based on
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002115the numbers I have read a while ago,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002116it could be that the
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-0021172025
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002118NSND and NCIS issued
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002119would pertain to 2020.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-0021202022 to 2024 po.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002121Or even
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002122pababa. Submit na lang po namin, ma'am.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002123Yes po. If possible,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002124masubmit po to this representation
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002125through the committee, yung
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002126ma-identify no, dun po sa mga
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002127na-mention na figures, anon po dito yung
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002128pertaining to flood control. Siyempre,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002129gusto natin na sinusuportahan yung
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002130gawain ng COA na
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002131na-flag nga po, and nakita naman po natin
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002132na hard at work in the past
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002133few months since na-uncover yung
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002134corruption, na
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asr-002135ma-identify as soon as possible
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asr-002136alin po dito yung
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asr-002137fake, substandard,
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asr-002138or hindi maganda
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asr-002139talaga yung paggawa.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002140I'd like to ask din po kasi
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asr-002141dahil meron pong
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asr-002142mga existing flood control
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asr-002143mechanisms
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asr-002144that
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asr-002145hindi po nakasaad sa kahit
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asr-002146anong parang master plan, and then
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asr-002147therefore nagbe-bring ng active harm
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asr-002148to the community for its
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asr-002149existence, diba?
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asr-002150Paano po ba
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asr-002151ma-ensure ng COA na
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asr-002152nagagawa, bahagi po ba
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asr-002153ng purview niya, yung pag-check
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asr-002154kung
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asr-002155na-function ba ng flood control
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asr-002156mechanism na ito, yung kanyang gawain?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002157And kung hindi, when soonest,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002158kaya siya pwede pwede matanggal?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002159Actually, Your Honors,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002160ano po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002161meron po kaming in-issue before
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002162sa DPWH, we can submit it
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002163to you. Ang ano po kasi nun,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002164dapat sa flood control, it should be a
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002165holistic
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002166holistic approach po eh.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002167Hindi po pwedeng kanya-kanyang
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002168lugar. So,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002169ang puna nga po namin,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002170dati pa, I think that was
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002171around 2016
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002172or, we can submit it to you,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002173wala po kasi yung
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002174master plan.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002175Yes, parang last year pa lang natin naririnig
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asr-002176yung, pero kayo po,
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asr-002177since 2016, na-flog nyo na sa
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asr-002178DPWH na dapat may master plan.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002179Master plan. Kasi po, ano po eh,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002180holistic po dapat siya,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002181kunwari po ba, hindi lang
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002182dito sa munisipyo na to, dapat pati
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002183yung kabilang munisipyo, pati yung iba.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002184So, hindi po pwedeng,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002185para ang nangyari po kasi kanya-kanya po sila na.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002186So, tama na, since 2016,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002187parang na-flog nyo na yung pattern na yan.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002188Mukhang may flood control,
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asr-002189isa-isa,
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asr-002190hindi naka-isang
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asr-002191master plan, and dahil
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asr-002192doon, hindi natin
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asr-002193may ensure yung effectiveness niya.
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asr-002194Sa isang particular locality.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002195Okay.
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asr-002196May na-flog na po ba yung COA
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asr-002197na mga projects na,
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asr-002198kayo may nakita yung trend,
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asr-002199pero yung salungat talaga doon
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asr-002200sa kakayahan niya na makapag-flood control,
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asr-002201meron po bang naging mechanism
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002202yung COA na mag-identify ng gano'n?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002203Actually po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002204nagpa-performance audit na rin po kami
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002205dito po sa mga existing,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002206but hindi pa po siya tapos.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002207Medyo marami po siya.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002208Meron po ba siya, meron po ba kayong
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002209previous performance audits,
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asr-002210of other flood control projects
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asr-002211of the previous years?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002212Parang wala.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002213Compliance audit.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002214We'll submit it po, Your Honors.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002215Yes po. Kung kumaari, pwede rin po masubmit.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002216Kasi, everywhere
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asr-002217in the Philippines,
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asr-002218ang mga citizens na po yung nag-identify
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asr-002219na itong flood control project,
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asr-002220kaysa na makabenepisyo,
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asr-002221ay nakapinsala pa nga.
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asr-002222Kung nga, a structure in the middle of a creek,
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asr-002223na dahil diyan,
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asr-002224ay mabilis na umaapaw yung tubig.
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asr-002225At ako, at least,
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asr-002226it's good to know na na-identify na ng COA,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002227pero ngayon, nabahala ako na 2016 pa pala
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asr-002228nyo na-identify,
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asr-002229and it's been 10 years at wala ang action
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asr-002230yung DPWH on this.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002231So, siguro tanong ko na lang,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002232may follow-up mechanisms ba kayo
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002233na parang, oh, since na-flag nyo na before,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002234dapat matagal na yung flood control master plan?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002235Parang paano nyo po ba na
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asr-002236i-ensure na yung audit ninyo
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asr-002237ay may policy,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002238may policy action sa dulo?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002239Tuloy-tuloy po kasi yung your honors
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002240na pag-raise namin sa kanila po noon.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002241Actually po kasi, I think,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002242one of the reasons kung bakit
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002243kuminsan po ay iba-iba yung policy,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002244because of the change in management
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002245of DPWH,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002246tsaka po syempre,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002247nag-iiba yung secretaries,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002248nag-iiba yung president.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002249Kaya po, kuminsan,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002250hindi po natutuloy yun pong mga napag-usapan.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002251Ang isa pa pong gusto sana namin
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002252i-submit sa inyo is
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002253natapos po na po kami ng
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-00225450 fraud
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002255audit reports po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002256And these fraud audit reports
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002257are the one being used
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002258by the ombudsman
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002259sa filing po of cases nila
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002260sa Sandigat Bayan.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002261Kung maaari din po ay masubmit din po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002262yun sa committee.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002263Thank you po, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002264Ang next na question ko na lang din po,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002265since 2015,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002266ilang notices of suspension,
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asr-002267disallowance,
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asr-002268or charges,
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asr-002269ang na-issue na po ba
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002270on confidential and intelligence funds?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002271One minute lang po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002272Your Honor.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002273Your honors,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002274what we have here po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002275is sabi niyo po kasi kanina,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002276starting 2015,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002277what we have is 2021 lang po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002278To the present,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002279for AOMs,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002280ang issue po namin is
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-0022813,016 AOMs po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002282And then notice of suspension,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-00228392,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002284and NDs,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-00228522 po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002286And yung reason po kung bakit
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002287since 2021 lang,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002288dahil ang binasayan kong year
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002289is yung 2015,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002290yung inyong joint memorandum circular.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002291Actually po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002292we'll compile it po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002293your honors,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002294para makompleto po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002295namin from 2015 to the present.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002296But ang hinanda po kasi namin
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002297is for the past five years po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002298Kung maaari din po
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asr-002299ay makapagsubmit po
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asr-002300nung list ng mga
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asr-002301confidential intelligence funds expenses
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asr-002302na na-issuehan ng mga
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asr-002303ganitong AOM and SND.
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asr-002304And siguro,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002305ako na lang din po,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002306we're aware of the discourse
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asr-002307on confidential and intelligence funds now.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002308Yung paano po ba,
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asr-002309because iba yung kanyang
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asr-002310ah, from
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asr-002311ordinary procurement
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asr-002312and itemized reporting rules.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002313Siguro ang tanong ko na lang po dito ay
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002314ano po ba yung nakikitang
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asr-002315dapat magbago doon
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asr-002316sa existing rules
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asr-002317ng COA
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asr-002318with regards to CIF.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002319Given nga yung nakita nga natin
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asr-002320sa maaaring
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002321hindi po nag-reflect
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002322sa rules ninyo,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002323yung sinasabit na audit reports.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002324Magandang hapon po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002325Ako na pong sasagot nung tanong.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002326Base po dun sa mga nakaraang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002327mga hearings,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002328din po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002329tungkol sa confidential fund.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002330Lumabas din po yung mga kakulangan
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002331na kailangan ayusin po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002332dun sa aming joint circular.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002333But just as a reminder po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002334yung joint circular po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002335is an issuance po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002336of the different agencies.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002337Hindi lang po COA.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002338Department of National Defense,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002339we also have the DILG
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002340dahil nasa kanila rin po ang PNP.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002341Ang kasama rin po namin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002342sa nag-issue po nito ay
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002343DBM.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002344So, we practically have
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002345NGCG po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002346So, we have these five groups po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002347that came up
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002348with the joint circular.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002349Naintindihan po ng COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002350that there are some operational items
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002351regarding the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002352confidential funds and the intelligence funds.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002353So, magkaiba po yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002354trato ng dalawa.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002355Magka-coordinate po kami.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002356May mga proposals na po ang COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002357base po dun sa mga nakita
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002358naming mga kakulangan.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002359We just need to sit down po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002360with these agencies
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002361because we understand
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002362their operational concerns din po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002363regarding the intelligence
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002364and confidential funds.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002365But we already took note
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002366of the certain items
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002367that were raised po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002368Yung acknowledgement receipts,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002369yung identity po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002370at yung paggamit po ng alias.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002371May mga rekomendasyon na rin po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002372yung mataas na kapulungan
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002373tungkol ho dito.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002374Yung kailangan pong
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002375ano po ang talagang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002376requirement po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002377as evidence of success
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002378as the basis of reward.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002379Then, yung papano po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002380kailangan ma-prove
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002381kung may binili ho sila
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002382anong procurement process
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002383if we need to refine.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002384Then, kung kailangan higpitan po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002385o anong pa talaga
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002386ang mga kailangan pong gastusin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002387tungkol sa confidential
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002388and intelligence fund.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002389At the same time po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002390yung audit scope
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002391and security clearances po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002392ng mga auditor po namin,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002393tungkol sa pag-imbestigaho
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002394ng mga pondong ito.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002395What is the extent?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002396What is the limit?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002397But what is also the coordination
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002398we need to do
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002399with the operating unit po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002400spending these funds?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002401Last manifestation na lang po,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002402Chair, no?
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002403Dahil nakapaglatag ng mga
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002404nakitang so far butas
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002405doon sa mga existing rules
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002406na unfortunate ang nangyayari ngayon.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002407May nakita tayong clear case
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002408kung saan na-exploit po
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002409yung mga kakulangan na ito.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002410And now, up until now,
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002411hindi tayo sure kung saan may ilang milyon
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002412na saan po nag-end up
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002413na sana po pumunta sa mga ibang-ibang
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002414pangailangan ng budget
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002415na ibang-ibang ahensya ngayon
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002416nag-aagawan for.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002417So, yun lang naman po.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002418Mr. Chair, thank you very much
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002419for answering our questions
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002420and we look forward to the submissions
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002421to the office through the committee.
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co
asr-002422Thank you very much.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-002423Thank you, Representative Renee Co.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-002424Let's proceed with the majority.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-002425Representative Salvador Pleyto.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-002426Sir.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002427Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002428Chairman Cordoba
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002429and Commissioner Lillian
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002430and the Coa family,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002431this representation fully supports
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002432the approval of the proposed
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-0024332007 budget of the Commission on Audit.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002434We do appreciate the Commission's
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002435continuing efforts
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002436to strengthen financial compliance,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002437performance, and technical audits
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002438as well as its move
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002439towards digitalization
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002440and greater use of technology
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002441in detecting irregularities.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002442More so, COA has come up with
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002443initiatives such as the
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002444Citizen Participatory Audit
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002445because this brings ordinary citizens
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002446and civil society
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002447into the audit process
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002448and gives Filipino people
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002449a more direct role
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002450in safeguarding public resources.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002451Napakaganda po,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002452Chairman Cordoba,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002453ang inyong inisyatiba
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002454na ito na dapat isama o isali
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002455ang ating mga kababayan
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002456na maging partner po ninyo
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002457sa pag-audit
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002458on the prudent utilization
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002459of public funds.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002460With the Citizen Participatory Audit,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002461how exactly can ordinary citizens
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002462participate in this audit process?
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002463Can a citizen report,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002464a suspected anomalous project,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002465submit evidence,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002466or join ocular inspections
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002467or validation activities,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002468and receive feedback
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002469on the action taken by COA?
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002470And how does COA
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002471ensure that these
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002472citizen inputs
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002473actually become part
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002474of the formal audit process
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002475and are not simply
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002476treated as complaints?
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002477Could COA institutionalize
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002478a more accessible
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002479citizen-to-audit mechanism
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002480where citizens can help verify
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002481whether a project exists,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002482was completed according to specifications,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002483and is actually being used
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002484by the community?
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002485Thank you, Mr. Chair.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002486Good afternoon.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002487To answer the questions
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002488regarding the Citizen Participatory Audit,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002489may pagkakaiba po na
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002491nagsulong po ng complaint
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002492ang isang private citizen
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002493regarding a certain project
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002494or a certain transaction po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002495Normally po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002496if the complaint is submitted,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002497this would fall under our COA complaints desk,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002498and this would be transmitted to
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002499the audit sector po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002500na sumasako po sa area na to.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002501Kung nanggagaling po ito sa Cebu,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002502nanggagaling po ito sa Apari,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002503kung sino po ang local government audit sector po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002504sa kanya po itatransmit to look into.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002505Kakaiba naman po yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002506Citizens Participatory Audit.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002507Yung proseso na to,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002508although it does involve citizens po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002509we have this program po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002510to have NGOs,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002511private citizens,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002512and CSOs po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002513They become part po of the audit team.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002514Magkakaroon po ng isang programa na
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002515kung kailangan ma-audit ang isang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002516infrastruktura o isang programa po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002517Nagiging parte po sila ng audit team.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002518They are trained po how to audit.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002519So they become part of the audit team complement.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002520Nagiging very formal po yung process.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002521They are trained
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002522how to go about it.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002523Tinuturuan ho sila kung ano
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002524ho dapat tingnan.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002525Inaayos ho din sila
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002526na tingnan at makagawa po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002527ng report tulad ho ng mga
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002528auditor at ginagabayan ho sila
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002529ng COA. Ito ho
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002530ay isinasama ho namin sila sa
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002531proseso dahil gusto
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002532rin na ho namin as COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002533na makita ng pribadong
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002534sektor kung ano ho ang ginagawa
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002535ng COA. At the same time
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002536po dahil very voluntary po yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002537participation nila
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002538although COA ho shoulders
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002539part of their expenses, it
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002540becomes a more effective audit
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002541po. So kakaiba po yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002542ordinary complaint where
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002543a citizen based on the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002544observation or based on a complaint
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002545simply submits
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002546what they think COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002547should look into. Yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002548kinatawag ko nating CPA, Citizens
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002549Participatory Audit,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002550lumalabas ho, they do not
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002551just do one act.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002552Nasasama ho sila
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002553sa buong gawain ng pag-audit.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002554And we value
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002555po the output
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002556and the outcomes of their audit report.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002557So yung programa
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002558po, ito kakaiba po talaga.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002559In fact,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002560in the international community
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002561of supreme audit institutions po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002562ibig sabihin, ito po yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002563mga ibang komisyon o opisina
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002564sa buong mundo, they recognize
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002565that program po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002566As a program
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002567that should be emulated po sa
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002568ibang bansa. So malaking
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002569bagay po sa amin yung CPA.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002570Pagdating naman po doon sa mga complaints,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002571siniseryoso po ng COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002572yung mga complaints.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002573May mga, pagdating
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002574sa infrastructure projects nga po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002575ang ginagawa po ng mga
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002576complainant, nililitratuhan
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002577nila yung mga poster
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002578ng nakalagay po yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002579budget, time of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002580start, time of completion,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002581para ma-indicate po nila
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002582kung ano ho yung proyektong tinitingnan nila.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002583At pinapadala ho yun sa amin.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002584In our audit of the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002585DPWH, kasama ho sa
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002586geo-tagging,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002587maisasama ho ito at makikita rin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002588namin. So outside
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002589the geo-tagging,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002590outside the actual audits, we get
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002591constant feedback din po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002592sa publiko.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002593Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Commissioner,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002594for that response.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002596With
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002597the increasing complexity
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002598and size of government programs
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002599and projects, digital
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002600transactions, PPPs,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002601and other emerging
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002602areas, do you still believe,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002603Commissioner, that your
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002604present technical manpower and systems
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002605are already sufficient?
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002606Or are there still areas
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002607where you need additional
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002608engineers, IT
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002609specialists,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002610data analysts,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002611forensic
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002612auditors,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002613and other technical experts?
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002614But precisely because COA
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002615is our constitutional
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002616guardian of public funds,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002617I believe, Mr. Chair,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002618that we should continuously ask
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002619how can we make
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002620COA even more effective,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002621more proactive, and more responsive
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002622to the challenges that government
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002623faces today. Mr. Chair,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002624it's now more than ever
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002625incumbent upon us in Congress,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002626my colleagues,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002627my dear colleagues, to provide
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002628COA with the necessary support,
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002629resources, and assistance it needs
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002630to effectively
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002631fulfill and strengthen its constitutional mandate.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002632Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto
asr-002633Thank you.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-002634Thank you,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-002635Representative Salvador
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-002636Pleyto, sir. Let's proceed
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-002637with the second round.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-002638The minority
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-002639may acknowledge
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-002640Representative Robert Nazal,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-002641sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002642Thank you again, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002643Chairman,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002644Mr. Chair and
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002645Chairman, I'd like to go back
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002646to yung representative
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002647natin for DPWH.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002648So my question,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002649ang question ko lang po is that
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002650ito pong may mga
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002651projects kasi na na-validate na
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002652under NBC 595, di ba?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002653So tapos, ang sinabi sa inyo,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002654hindi siya
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002655implementable.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002656Tama ba?
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002657Your Honor, yung iba po kasi
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002658based dun sa audit po namin na lumabas.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002659Kung pwede ko pong
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002660i-explain, sir.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002661Pero hindi po siya.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002662Bali, ang specific po na inaudit
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002663ng audit team po natin
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002664sa Central Office
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002665ay yung mga projects
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002666under Bridges Program po.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002667So, nakita po nila
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002668na may mga nasa NEP po.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002669Originally, sa NEP po niya
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002670nasa District Original Office.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002671And then, pagdating po sa GAA,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002672nalipat po siya sa
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002673Central Office
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002674ang implementing agency.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002675So, eventually po, itong mga nasa
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002676Central Office, upon release
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002677of the SARO, eventually,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002678nirelease din po sa
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002679District Original
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002680Offices. Pero dahil
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002681late din po yung SARO,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002682late din pong na-download
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002683sa Regional or
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002684District Offices. Or yung
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002685iba po, hindi po talaga ready
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002686yung ating implementing
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002687office. Dahil po sa nangyari last
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002688year, sir. So, yun po yung
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002689mga naging problema po natin.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002690So, basically, ang sinasabi nyo,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002691hindi naging ready
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002692yung agency. Kasi kahit meron pondo
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002693at may SARO,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002694hindi
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002695implementable nung
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002696sub-agency dahil may mga
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002697for whatever reason, may mga tinanggal,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002698may mga pinalitan.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002699So, bakit po
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002700na-issue yung SARO? Kasi, di ba,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002701nag-pangalawang certification tayo.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002702Through NBC 595.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002703Na-bid na lahat to.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002704And then, sasabihin lang nila na
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002705hindi po na-implementable. Anong
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002706validation ang ginawa nyo?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002707To make sure na hindi
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002708siya implementable. Did you just take
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002709that hook, line, and sinker? Kasi,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002710kung ganun po ang mangyayari, at
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002711hindi po natin i-validate,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002712parang ini-enable po natin
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002713sila na mag-manufacture ng savings.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002714Hindi po ba?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002715Yes, sir. So, my question
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002716is, what other actions
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002717did you take, did the COA take
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002718para i-check
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002719na talagang hindi siya implementable?
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002720Opo. We agree po
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002721with your intention, sir, na
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002722dapat hindi mag-fabricate
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002723ng fake savings,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002724but rather, kasi,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002725we are also with you,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002726sir, para po medyo mapaikot
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002727po natin yung economy natin. Lalo na po
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002728at medyo bagsak po tayo
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002729last year. So, kaya nga din po,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002730kami din po, ini-enable
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002731din po namin yung management.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002732Na tingnan po nila yung mga
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002733toong root causes,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002734kasi, sir, sa totoo lang po, siguro dahil
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002735dun sa problema po last year, kaya hindi
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002736po talagang nakapag-implement
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002737yung mga implementing
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002738agencies po natin.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002739When an agency po does
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002740declares
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002741savings, yung pondo,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002742dinodouble-check po ba natin yun?
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002743Yes, sir.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002744Actually, sir, yung iba naman po,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002745implemented naman po siya.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002746Yun nga lang po, may mga suspended,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002747may mga for termination
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002748dahil din po doon sa mga
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002749na-revoke yung mga
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002750pick-up license. Kaya po,
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002751ang ginawa ng team, nire-recommend po nila
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002752na immediately po sana
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002753mag-act po si DPWH
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002754through re-bidding or
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002755takeover of contracts po.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002756So, ang sinasabi mo,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002757there are some projects that were
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002758bided out, pero ang nangyari,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002759may problema dun sa sub-agency,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002760whether district or ano, at hindi
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002761nila ma-implement. Pero,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002762karamihan po kasi sa kanila, parang
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002763ang sinasabi, waiting lang kami.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002764Naga-antay lang kami.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002765And then, there were a lot
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002766of reports that we received that
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002767na parang
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002768ready na to implement. Talagang hindi lang
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002769nire-release yung saa.
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002770We'll confirm po that with the central officer
COA Director III Tracy Ann D. Sunico
asr-002771and we'll revert po sa inyo.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002772Anyway, ang gusto ko lang naman
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002773pong i-drive at, is dapat po
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002774meron tayong mechanism and we make sure
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002775that hindi mangyari yung manufactured
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002776savings. Kung meron man augmentation,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002777na i-declare, savings,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002778tapos dadalhin sa augmentation,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002779dapat po natin double-check po natin.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002780So, let me go now to
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002781off-budget
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002782accounts. So,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002783Commissioner, I want to understand
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002784what the off-budget balances reported
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002785in the BESF actually represent
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002786and how
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002787COA audits them.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002788When the BESF reports
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002789an off-budget balance,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002790is that necessarily actual
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002791cash still available to the agent?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002792Or can it merely be an
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002793accounting balance where the underlying
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002794cash is deposited with
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002795the treasury or being
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002796temporarily used elsewhere?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002797Good afternoon, Mr. Chair.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002798Good afternoon, everyone.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002799When we refer off-budgetary
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002800accounts, these are
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002801usually revenues
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002802authorized by law to be
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002803collected by certain government
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002804agencies. The purpose
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002805of these off-budgetary accounts are
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002806for expenses.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002807Not included in the
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002808national, in the NEP.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002809In the NEP. So,
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002810we call it off-budgetary accounts
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002811because we cannot speculate like
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002812ECUCs, how much is the amount that
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002813could be collected on this.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002814So, but COA
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002815reports on that. The
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002816amount of off-budgetary
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002817accounts are actually being monitored
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002818by the DBM. The audit
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002819is done by the COA.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002820And we include that in our annual financial report
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002821which we
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002822issued,
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002823issue, I mean, every September
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-00282430 of the year, and post
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002825it in the website within the year.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002826For funds na-deposited
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002827sa national treasury,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002828siyempre, does the one-fund concept
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002829or the principle that cash is
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002830fungible apply also?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002831Kailangan lang po natin daanan eh.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002832Kamaganda, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002833For funds deposited with the national
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002834treasury, does the one-fund
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002835concept or the principle of
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002836cash is fungible apply?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002837I think so.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002838So, ibig sabihin, the
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002839treasury can temporarily use
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002840that cash while the agency
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002841does not need it.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002842Tama po ba?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002843I believe so, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002844So, does
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002845COA actually trace that cash?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002846How much was temporarily
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002847used? Where it was
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002848used? Whether it was restored?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002849And whether the full amount
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002850remained available when the
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002851agency eventually needed it?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002852Actually, COA comes in the picture
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002853the moment the
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002854off-budgetary funds are
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002855being disbursed by agencies.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002856So, doon pa lang din?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002857Doon pa lang din, but while
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002858in the treasury,
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002859atsaka with DBM,
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002860that's an executive
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002861activity
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002862for which
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002863limited ang
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002864intrusion
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002865ng COA on that aspect.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002866So, while with
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002867the BTR, hindi nyo pwedeng i-audit?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002868Because the funds are
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002869there, the law
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002870allows it to be there,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002871and the revenues
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002872of course were audited
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002873by the COA when they're collected.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002874And the moment they're transmitted to BTR,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002875so it's there.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002876I'd like to
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002877cite an example. There is a certain
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002878fund, I think
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002879yung sa CHED. And then
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002880based on the law,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002881dapat po, naka-deposit siya
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002882sa isang
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002883fund manager.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002884It is
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002885specifically stated doon sa batas.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002886Pero, ang nangyari ho,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002887nilipat sa Bureau of Treasury.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002888Nakita nyo po ba yun?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002889Actually, the authorized
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002890bank to be
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002891where the money should go is the
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002892AGDP, o tinatawag na
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002893Authorized Government Depository Banks.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002894And the
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002895agency actually that
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002896generates that
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002897off-budgetary accounts
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002898practically control the
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002899funds
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002900that they collected.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002901Ted, like,
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002902similar also with what is being or
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002903happening
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002904with the SUCs,
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002905State University and Colleges.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002906So, ang sinasabi nyo po, for off-budget funds
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002907deposited in authorized government
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002908depository banks,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002909yung deposits are
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002910under the control of the agency.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002911Yeah, because that's their account.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002912That exactly is their money.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002913Um, do these, ano, do these, um,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002914do they earn interest?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002915Yeah, with the bank, of course.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002916Ngayon, kung kumikita po
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002917ng interest yun, sino ang
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002918legally entitled to that interest?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002919The fund, the agency,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002920or the general fund?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002921It accrues to the agency,
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002922I suppose. Because the
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002923name of the account is in the agency.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002924Like, if you see,
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002925it's in there.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002926So, yung interest earned
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002927by the off-budget account
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002928for the SUCs, sa kanila na pupunta?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002929It is,
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002930I think, intrinsically included in the
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002931balance in the account, in the
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002932AGDB.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002933Hindi po yun pwede gamitin ng
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002934national government
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002935for a different purpose?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002936I'm not quite sure on that.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002937Nakikita po ba natin yun?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002938Yes, because we report it.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002939We include it in the report.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002940Ginalaw nila yung, ginalaw ng
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002941national government yung
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002942interest
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002943or yung off-budget account.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002944Nakikita nyo lahat ng movement.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002945That can be
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002946seen, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002947So, you are monitoring that?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002948Yes, of course.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002949Can an agency itself invoke
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002950cash is fungible and temporarily
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002951use the money from one
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002952off-budget account for another agency
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002953purpose simply because the cash is not yet
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002954needed?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002955I believe it cannot be
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002956without facing legal
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002957complication on that, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002958So, every off-budget is strictly
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002959limited to the purpose authorized by
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002961its enabling law.
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002962That's correct, sir. That's correct, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002963Does the COA monitor and flag
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002964temporary borrowing, commingling,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002965or cross-using among an agency's
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002966different off-budget accounts?
COA Assistant Commissioner Roy L. Orsal
asr-002967Yeah, that can be discovered in the audit, sir.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002968More importantly, Commissioner,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002969pag nakikita po ba natin ng COA
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002970na an agency is accumulating
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002971a large off-budget balance year after year,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-002972do you examine why the agency is not spending it?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002973We take a look at, ano ho,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002974tinitinan ho namin yung budget requirements
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002975and their fund.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002976As long as the fund is a special fund,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002977maski na nag-accumulate nga po yun minsan,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002978to a point of it being excessive
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002979and not to a point of being useful anymore
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002980to the agency,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002981it's flagged as having,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002982it's being too much for the agency.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002983But it's not really something that
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002984we normally immediately disallow
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002985if there is no irregularity on the use of the fund.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002986But in case there are instances of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002987where the fund exceeds
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002988what the auditee can make use of,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002989ang trabaho po ng COA is to make certain recommendations
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002990to the executive
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002991and possibly if it is legislated,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002993it is also a recommendation to Congress
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002994on the management or the reduction
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002995or the possible use of the fund po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002996But our audit po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002997will stick to the areas where
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002998if the fund is there
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-002999and they use it for a different purpose,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003000that's when the red flag goes up po.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003001Hindi ko kaya posible na
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003002the reason why sometimes the fund is accumulating
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003003is because the agency has no access to the fund
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003004or nagagamit.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003005And when the agency needs it,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003006hindi nila magamit.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003007Kaya siya parang nag-accumulate
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003008dahil tinitignan lang natin
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003009yung sinasabi nyo,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003010yung fund balance eh.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003011So, if we're just looking at the fund balance,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003012hindi po ba kaya
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003013ang nangyayari,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003014kaya meron tayong mga ganyang pangyayari,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003015is dahil nagagamit,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003016so kailangan nilang humingi ng humingi.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003017Pero pag tinitignan mo yung fund balance,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003018paakyat siya ng pag-agamit.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003019Dapat may pera sila.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003020Pero kung tutuusin, kaya hindi nila magamit,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003021dahil wala ng pera.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003022For COA po, as long as the fund balance is there,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003023the corresponding availability,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003024yung tinitignan po namin is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003025the fund should be available to the agency.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003026Now, the moment po it is restricted,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003027it is something where the DBM and the BTR,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003028its relationship po to the agency comes into play
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003029as to releasing.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003030But the moment the agency po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003031touches the fund,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003032and touches it for a different purpose,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003033that's when we raise the red flag po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003034But the moment there is a certain restriction
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003035as to the use of the fund,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003036and it is between the relationship of DBM-BTR
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003037and the agency po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003038we simply take a look at,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003039we do this in the compliance audits.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003040We take a look at the fund requirement,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003041and the required outcome.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003042But this does not necessarily go po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003043to a financial audit,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003044where we find a disallowance or a charge.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003045It is between,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003046it is how the fund is going to be used
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003047based on what the executive deems
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003048to be available for use po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003049But we keep monitoring the fund.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003050Any charges outside the fund,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003051outside its purpose,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003052is what COA takes and puts into a report po.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003053Ang problema po,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003054po kasi,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003055is when the agency asks for budget.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003056Diba?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003057So, hingi po sila ng hingi.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003058Titignan ngayon ang i-examine ng Congress
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003059yung kanilang budget.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003060Sasabihin ng Congress,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003061oh, meron kang pera eh.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003062Ba't ka humihingi?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003063Diba?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003064Pero,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003065hindi niya ma-access yung pera na yun,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003066hindi niya masabi na wala na,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003067kasi hindi binibigay sa kanya ng DBM or whatever.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003068Diba kung naka-deposit with the Bureau of Treasury?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003069Sabihin ng Bureau of Treasury,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003070uh, ah what
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003071do you
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003072call this?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003073Fiscal space.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003074Excuse me, sir.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003075You can do third round.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003076We have, ah,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003077still waiting, ah,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003078another interview.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003079Sige po.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003080I will wrap up.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003081So, do you get my point po?
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003082Uh, that
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003083if
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003084we do not monitor
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003085how it's being used
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003086or bago pa siya mapunta sa agency
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003087at nagamit na siya,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003088may problema na kagad eh.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003089So, I think the COA
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003090should also be looking at that.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003091We should also be looking at the funds
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003092from the source pa lang.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003093Pagka pumasok sa kanila,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003094ginalaw,
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003095dapat tinitignan na natin yun.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003096Do you get my point?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003097Ah, we get it po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003098Ah, we'll take a look at it
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003099and come up with a certain protocol
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003100so that we can monitor
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003101the balance of the fund.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003102We have, ah,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003103regular reports po from DBM
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003104as to the balances of the fund.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003105Kaya po nababantayan din namin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003106the use of the fund.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003107Um, but kung kailangan po ng kongreso
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003108makita po natin yung movement of the fund,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003109um, then we can also flag this
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003110and coordinate with DBM and PTR.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003111Um, because these funds should be available
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003112for the purposes,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003113especially kung statutory po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003114yung creation ng fund.
Rep. Roberto Nazal
asr-003115Thank you, Mr. Chair.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-003116We will po.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003117Thank you.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003118Before proceeding,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003119I'd like to acknowledge the
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003120presence of our committee chair
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003121on Appropriation,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003122Representative
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003123Mika Suansing.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003124And our
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003125HDS
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003126Representative Dinan.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003127And
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003128also our
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003129Deputy Majority Leader,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003130Representative
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003131Pipito Alvarez.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003132So,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003133let's proceed with the
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003134majority.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003135Representative Mauricio
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003136Dumogan.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003137Thank you.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003138Mr. Chair.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003139I was listening a while ago
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003140of the specific amount
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003141that you enumerated
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003142to be augmented.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003143Can you please
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003144state that again?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003145For
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003146the MOE,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003147semi-expendable information
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003148and communication technology
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003149items and software subscriptions,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003150213.686 million.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003151Then, for the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003152MOE,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003153requirements for citizen
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003154participatory audit
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003155for 40.734 million.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003156For the capital
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003157outlay,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003158a total of 656.528 million,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003159which consists of
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003160ICT equipment and software.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003161For the amount of
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003162525.405 million,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003163Supply and
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003164installation of furniture and fixtures
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003165for Building 2,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003166125.523 million,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003167and
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003168motor vehicles for some of our
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003169officials.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003170and for the NIR,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-0031715.6 million.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003172It
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003173appears that it does not include
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003174an amount that
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003175uh,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003176hire additional personnel
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003177to implement
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003178pre-audit.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003179Yes,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003180wala pa po.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003181Why?
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003182You have agreed that this is a priority
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003183in order to
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003184prevent one.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003185why did you not include it as
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003186your priority?
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003187Because I am about to move
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003188for the augmentation of your fund.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003189But look,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003190you do not include what you are seeing
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003191as a priority.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003192Your Honor,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003193this wish list is
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003194are the items that were not
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003195considered in the NEP
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003196as proposed by COA.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003197In addition to this,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003198the amount
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003199recommended
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003200by the Honorable Chair
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003201on the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003202pre-audit,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003203we will include in our list,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003204in the wish list.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003205Mr. Chair,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003206with the
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003207clear answer
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003208of COA
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003209at this stage of the proceedings,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003210I respectfully move
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003211that we respectfully ask
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003212the leadership
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003213through the Speaker,
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003214through appropriation
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003215to augment the budget of COA to address this pressing important issue, priority needs, especially yung fight against corruption. So move, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan
asr-003216Second. Second.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003216-split-1Ah, thank you, uh, Representative Domogan. We have
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003217now with the last,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003218but not the least, our minority.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003219Representative Iris Montes, ma'am.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003220Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003221Pasensya na po,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003222hindi natapos kanina yung katanungan ko.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003223Balik muna po ako, no?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003224Um, the reason why I'm asking about this, um,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003225comprehensive, um,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003226audit, um, annual audit report is that,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003227um, tutal naman po,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003228may manifestation na, na,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003229i-increase ang budget nyo.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003230Gusto ko pong ipaliwanag
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003231kung bakit ko gustong, ah, um,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003232um, talakayin ito.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003233Kasi napakahalaga
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003234po
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003235ng role ninyo.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003236Alam nyo naman po yan,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003237especially in,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003238our oversight functions.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003239Just imagine po,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003240kung ang kongreso,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003241we are equipped
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003242with the right information
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003243at the proper time.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003244Meaning,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003245during the budget deliberations,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003246ng mga findings po ninyo.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003247Mas ma-exercise po namin
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003248yung role namin
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003249as legislators.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003250Mas maiexamine po namin mabuti
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003251yung mga budget
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003252ng mga agencies.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003253Mas malalaman po namin
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003254kung sinong mga ahensya
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003255ang compliant
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003256ng inyong recommendations or not.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003257We can move for, um,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003258sa pagbawas ng budget
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003259ng bawat ahensya
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003260sa pag-increase
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003261at hindi nakaasa
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003262ang kongreso
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003263sa sinasabi lamang
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003264na tight fiscal space
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003265ng DBM
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003266or ng DOF.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003267Kami po ay, ah,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003268malaki po ang role
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003269ninyong gagampanan
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003270para magawa din po namin
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003271yung aming tungkulin.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003272So balik po ako sa
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003273on my earlier question,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003274Yung sinasabing
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003275niyo po,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003276yung date na June 30,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003277yan po ba yung 120 days
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003278na nakatalaga
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003279sa citizens charter ninyo?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003280Meron po kayong citizens charter,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003281tama po,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003282as provided or
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003283required by the ARTA
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003284and the ease of doing business,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003285tama po ba ako?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003286It's just, you know,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003287a publication that you have
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003288and it's not really
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003289religiously followed
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003290or it's just a compliance tool
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003291for the COA.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003292Ah, Mr. Chair,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003293Honorable,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003294I think po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003295yung transparency namin,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003296it's on the
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003297different process,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003298but the publication of
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003299the ARs po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003300we'll still have to follow
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003301yung pong sa GAA.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003302However po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003303as we said a while ago,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003304that the ARs
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003305are already transmitted
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003306to the respective audities
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003307or agencies
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003308as of June 30
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003309of every year.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003310And we also provide, uh,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003311copies of these reports
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003312to the Oversight Committee po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003313particularly po sa,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003314dito po sa Congress
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003315and the Senate po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003316What comes later po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003317is the publication po
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003318doon sa website natin.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003319that medyo doon po tayo
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003320kasi nasanay
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003321to download yung ARs,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003322but we follow
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003323a certain period po
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003324kasi to
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003325complete the publication,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003326yung pong action plan
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003327nung mga agencies
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003328regarding po
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003329sa mga observations
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003330or findings
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003331ng maating mga auditors po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003332So to complete po yung cycle,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003333when we publish it to the
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003334to the website po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003335kompleto na po yung management comments
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003336at saka po yung mga
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003337action plan po nila.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003338So, and that will take place
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003339uh, on
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003340or before po
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003341ng October 31 po
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003342this year po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003343Your Honor.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003344Ibig sabihin po,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003345ito na lang po siguro,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003346for the past years
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003347or sa current year,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003348compliant po tayo,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003349hindi po tayo late.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003350Timely po yung atin.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003351And then the report,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003352for instance,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003353for Congress,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003354is submitted to where?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003355The Committee on Approval,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003356Office of the Speaker,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003357Office po ni
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003358Speaker, ano po?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003359The Speaker daw po.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003360Okay.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003361Um, siguro,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003362yung, yung the point I'm trying to
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003363just raise is that
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003364we need you in Congress
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003365to help us do our jobs.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003366No, if you
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003367have timely
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003368and quality
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003369reports,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003370hindi lang po siguro technical,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003371Um, pwede po ba yun?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003372Is it with,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003373Um, hindi po ba na,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003374pwede po ba nyo yung gawin
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003375na yung halimbawa,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003376yung report,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003377yung car,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003378yung comprehensive,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003379meron pong,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003380parang meron kang tracking
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003381kung sino ang ahensya
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003382ang hindi sumusunod,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003383Ilang porsyento lang
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003384ang compliance.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003385Halimbawa,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003386for fiscal year,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003387since 2020,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003388itong ahensyang to,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-00338920% lang ang compliance
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003390so that Congress
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003391is given the information
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003392kung sino ang mga ahensyang
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003393hindi sumusunod,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003394paulit-ulit lang na
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003395sumusuway
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003396o kung pasaway ba talaga, yun po ang kailangan natin.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003397Quality reports, that would help us determine kung tama ba ang ibinibigay natin.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003398Pondo, kaya ba nilang gastusin yan?
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003399We talk about yung absorptive capacity and all.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003400We can see that sa reports, kung may tracking po tayo, tama po.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003401So yun lamang po ay support yung manifestation na ibigyan po kayo ng nire-request yung MOE.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003402Pero po, pinapakiusap ko na sana ibigyan natin ng prioridad yung mga pagkakagastusan
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003403that would help us do our job na mas maging efficient tayo,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003404mas magkaroon po tayo ng quality, comprehensive annual reports
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003405na kayang intindihin po ng layman,
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003406kayang intindihin po ng members of Congress
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003407so that we can help you also do your job.
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes
asr-003408Maraming salamat po, Mr. Chair.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003409Representative Montes, salamat po.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003410I'd like to acknowledge, although belatedly, our Vice Chair, Bernadette Escudero, ma'am.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003411We now give the floor to our Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriation.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003412Thank you very much.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003413Vice Chair Cagas, I just wanted to first of all say thank you to our Vice Chair
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003414and the Budget Sponsor for COA, Vice Chair John Tracy Cagas,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003415for doing such a great job in managing today's hearings.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003416And you have a very able partner po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003417Talaga pong sinigurado po namin, Chair, that COA is in great hands with your Budget Sponsor.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003418And he and we will be your partners.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003419We've been advocating for the budget of COA until the very end,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003420from the approval of HGAB to BICAM until GAA.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003421Alam niyo naman po yan, last year, we helped COA with the requirements sa building.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003422Kamusta na po ba yung building ninyo, Chair?
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003423Okay na?
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003424Hindi na yung takot na guguho siya at any given point.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003425Okay, good, good.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003426Kasi po, last year po,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003427we asked po, Chair, as to what is the most pressing concern for COA.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003428And it's really the safety and the well-being of the employees in the building.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003429So, sana po yung naibigay po natin na additional funding last year.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003430But now, at least mo kampante na po na hindi na po guguho yung building.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003431At tagal-tagal na po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-0034321970s pa ba?
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-0034331960s pa yung building.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003434So, alam niyo po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003435We're always your partners.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003436And you're doing such important work in COA.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003437As Kong Iris manifested, the output of your work is a great input to us exercising our oversight function.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003438So, what we can do on our part po is to give you the resources to be able to perform your mandate better.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003439So, I'm happy to hear po, Chair, na okay na yung building natin.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003440If I may ask po, because I was looking through the 2027.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003441For COA.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003442And ang talagang standout dito is zero yung capital outlay.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003443And I just wanted to ask po, whether there's a particular explanation that DBM gave as to why the whole proposal for capital outlay was zeroed out.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003444There was none po, Your Honor.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003445But all of these po, you indicated here that the proposal included,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003446it included a 1.17, 1.18 billion proposal.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003447But there was no explanation po as to why.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003448Kasi iba-iba naman siya.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003449It's not all ICT.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003450There's also buildings and vehicles.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003451But it was all, even the one po in NIR, pati yun hindi nila in-approve.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003452Yes, one vehicle for the NIR.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003453Interesting.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003454Sige po, SDS.
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-003456Pwede bang mag-conduct kayo ng audit sa DBM?
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-003457Para siguro palagay ko, bibigay nila yung request nyo.
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-003458Gawin nyo yun bago mag-budget.
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-003459Bago niya ibigay sa presidente yung budget.
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-003460Sa sunod pwede special audit na.
Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez
asr-003461Thank you, Che.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003462Thank you, SDS.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003463So, just to understand po, because medyo generic po yung pagkalagay dito po sa presentation.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003464First year implementation of COA ISSP.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003465For 2027, ah, 2027 to 2029.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003466Is there a, do you have a road map po?
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003467Because I remember, Chair, this was a conversation that we had last year.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003468That the previous ICT road map that was commenced a few years prior was no longer up-to-date.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003469Medyo nagiging obsolete na yung laman ng previous ICT road map.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003470So, is this a completely new road map?
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003471This is not a continuation of the previous road map that was rendered obsolete.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003472Yes, Pa.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003473Yes, Your Honor.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003474Because this was reviewed by the ICT and endorsed it to DBM.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003475So, this is a complete road map for five years where we emphasize the digitalization of our day-to-day operations.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003476Particularly, on the use of the subscription to software.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003477ICT equipment to enhance the quality of our audit.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-003478And this was endorsed by the ICT to DBM.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003479If we may request for a more detailed...
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003480Yes.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003481If we can request a more detailed plan for this, how much?
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003482Because nakikita ko pa, it's 1.18 billion for the entire capital outlay request.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003483So, if we could get some details on the ICT request.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003484And then for the building, po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003485Proposals for buildings.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003486And other structures and furniture and fixtures.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003487Originally proposed in 2026.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003488But was not considered.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003489May I ask, po, for additional information on that?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003490On the building, we have the modernization of the COA main building facade.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003491Fire protection works.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003492Renovation of our professional development center building.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003493And the construction of building in NIR.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003494Then, we have also the construction of the two-story records of storage building in Ordeneta.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003495Then, the construction of our three-story office training center and dormitory in Region 9.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003496And also Region 10.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003497And the training center and dormitory building in Pisao, Sultan Kudarat.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003498That's for the building and other structures.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003499Then, we have also the other structures.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003500Upgrading of main distribution panel and low voltage switch gear for COA main buildings 1 and 2.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003501And the upgrading of main distribution panel and low voltage switch gear for various COA central office buildings.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003502And also the upgrading of our powerhouse for our dormitory.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003503Then, the furniture and fixtures.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003504This is for the additional funding for building 2.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003505And the creation of NIR for the building to be constructed.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003506Then, the transportation for the three vehicles.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003507And the ICT equipment.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003508And software.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-003509So, that's for the capital outlay, Your Honor.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003510Andami po palang components.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003511So, for us to get a better sense, because given the limited fiscal space,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003512realistically, we would not be able to fund all.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003513So, for us to get a better sense, again, may we request for a more detailed list of all of the items under the capital outlay request.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003514With the corresponding details.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003515And then, Chair Leal, if I may request lang po, for you to be able to, if it's okay po, if you could give us a list of, like, a list of, essentially a wish list of all the items that were left out in the NEP that COA wishes to advocate for.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003516Because, as we mentioned before, one of the main reforms that we've done last year in the Committee on Appropriations and here in Congress is we institutionalized a budget amendments review subcommittee
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003517wherein we are deliberating on the institutional amendment requests emanating from the different agencies.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003518So, open po yun, kita ng mga kababayan natin line by line, which amendments we are deliberating on and where the funds are going.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003519So, siguro po, Chair, medyo andami po kasi.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003520When we receive the wish list po, or the request for institutional amendments, kung saan na po pwede po kung nakaprioritize na po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003521Because the worst that could happen is if we're able to find additional fiscal space, mali yung malagyan namin na program, hindi naman po pala yun yung priority ng COA.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003522So, Chair, if we may request for that document, if possible, this week, because we plan on convening the BARC either next week or the week after, before the plenary po, so we can have time to deliberate on them.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003523Yan po, Chair.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-003524We'll do that po, ma'am. Thank you very much.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003525Thank you so much po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003526And then, Chair, lastly, this was something that I also raised last year.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003527This is with regard to the submission of the COA reports from the previous year to aid us in our analysis of the different agencies for their budgetary requirements for the succeeding year.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003528So, we checked po, may tatlo na lang po na agencies na kulang.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003529DPWH, NHA, and Judiciary.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003530Para po magamit po namin, we can leverage on the COA audit reports as we do our assessment and scrutiny of the budget of the different agencies.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003531So, aside from their budget utilization rates, yung audit reports, magamit din po namin na basihan.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003532Yung audit findings, para po magamit din po namin basihan kung saan po natin ilalagay yung pondo.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003533So, i-request po namin, Chair, lalo na nandito yung DPWH, if we may receive that as soon as possible po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-003534Yesterday po, ma'am, nasubmit na daw po ang DPWH.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-003535I'll check yung NHA and Judiciary.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003536But the...
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003537Ah, submitted na daw po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003538Okay.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003539Anong wala na lang?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-003540Dito daw po. Dito daw po, your honors.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-003541But if kailangan po, we can resend it naman po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-003542Magpadala lang po kami ulit.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-003543Padala lang tayo.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-003544Sige po, we'll do that.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003545Thank you, thank you so much, Chair Liel.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003546Because, and thank you po, I would like to say thank you to COA also because that was a big request from our end last year.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003547And linagay po natin yun as a special provision in the GAI.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003548And we're so grateful to COA for saying yes to that because we wanted to advance, essentially,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003549the COA audit reports na ma-furnish po ng kopya yung Kongreso para po magamit po namin sa pag-deliberate po namin sa budget.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003550So, thank you po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003551We'll take a look at that po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003552We'll just coordinate po with COA.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-003553But we will, to be sure po, we'll resubmit also.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-003554We'll send po tomorrow morning again.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003555Thank you, thank you so much po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003556That would be very, very helpful for us po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003557Sakto din po kasi DPWH budget hearing din po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003558Bukas.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003559So, at least po, we have that as a point of reference.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003560And again, that goes to show po the important role that COA plays in all of these.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003561Thank you po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003562You really are our partners in all of this.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003563And we're so grateful po for your work kasi, again, we're able to perform our oversight functions better because po of the, of the output of COA.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003564So, yun lang po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003565Chair,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003566We'll just coordinate po on the wish list.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003567Hopefully po, the more details there are, the better.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003568So, we're better informed po when we make our...
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003569May mga Barsi members po tayo na nandito.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003570Ayan si SDS kasama.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003571Ayan, mag-manifest si SDS na I support the increase.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003572Ayan, nag-ready na po ng microphone si SDS.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003573But, again, lahat po kami ng mga kasamahan namin dito.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003574I believe that was really what was
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003575manifested by a lot of our colleagues this afternoon, is that we're grateful to COA for all the great work you're doing for our country.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003576You're helping all of the agencies.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003577You're helping us make better informed decisions on how to move forward with the programs and projects.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003578You're helping keep everyone accountable po to make sure that we are doing our work as well.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003579And, again, as I mentioned earlier, the best way that we could thank you po is to give you the resources.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003580To be able to perform remanded better po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003581So, Chair Liel, and to the COA family, we're here po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003582We are your partners.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003583We will help advocate po for...
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003584a better resourced
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003585COA. I don't want to commit
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003586yet on a higher
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003587budget for COA, but
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003588alam niyo naman po yan, if we're able po,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003589we will. Kaya po we really
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003590need that list po to inform
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003591us. So I won't keep everyone
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003592any longer na po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003593Again, thank you to the COA
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003594family. Thank you, Chair
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003595Liel, and
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003596to our colleagues and to
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003597the COA family.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003598I will...
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero
asr-003598-split-1Madam Chair?
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003599Yes, go ahead po.
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero
asr-003599-split-1Madam Chair, may I move
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero
asr-003600that we terminate the budget briefing of the
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero
asr-003601Commission on Audit?
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003602We'll, ano po, we'll
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003603defer po to our Vice Chairperson
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003604Cong. John Tracy Cagas
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003605to rule on that motion. Bring it home po,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003606Vice Chair.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003606-split-1I second
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003607the motion, Madam Chair.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003608It has been moved and seconded.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003609The motion is carried.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003610One more motion pa po.
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003611Sorry,
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing
asr-003612before we can go home.
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero
asr-003613Mr. Chair, I move that
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero
asr-003614we suspend the committee proceedings here at
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero
asr-003615the Andaya Hall, and we will resume tomorrow,
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero
asr-003616August 28 at 9 a.m.
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero
asr-003617I so move, Mr. Chair.
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003618It has been moved and
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003619duly seconded. The committee proceedings
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003620are hereby suspended here
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003621at the Andaya Hall, and will resume tomorrow,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003622August 26, 2026,
Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas
asr-003623at 9 a.m.