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DBM, Lump-Sum Funds, BSGC and ALGU

Senate Committee on Finance · October 22, 2026

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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On the Fiscal Year 2027 proposed expenditure program for the Department of Budget and Management and attached agency, lump-sum funds, budgetary support to government corporations, and allocation to local government units, I call the hearing to order. The Chair would like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Imee Marcos. Thank you, ma?am, for joining us this morning. At this juncture, the Chair would like to

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acknowledge the Committee Secretary to acknowledge our resource persons present for today.

Committee Secretary

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good morning. Good morning, Senator Marcos. For the briefing on the proposed FY 2027 budget of the Department of Budget and Management and attached agency, lump-sum funds, budgetary support to government corporations, and allocation to local government units, we would like to acknowledge the presence of DBM Secretary Kim Robert de Leon, together with Undersecretary Mary Ann de la Vega and Undersecretary Ryan [unclear].

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Undersecretary [unclear] Wong, Assistant Secretary Dante de Chavez, Assistant Secretary Gerald [unclear], OIC Assistant Secretary Andrea Celine [unclear], and Attorney [unclear]. From the Metro Manila Development Authority, we have the chairman, Attorney Romando [unclear], Assistant Secretary Maria Carolina Salgado, and Director Michael [unclear]. We have also invited representatives from the DILG NTF-ELCAC Secretariat.

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For DILG, we have Ms. Shery Ann Augustine Flores, Division Chief of the Office of Project Development Services. For NTF-ELCAC Secretariat, we have Director Alexander [unclear] of the Planning and [unclear]. From COA, we have Ms. Maurine [unclear], Attorney Monica [unclear], and Ms. Grizel Ann [unclear]. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Thank you. The Chair would like to give his opening statement.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Today, as we scrutinize the proposed 2027 budget of the Department of Budget and Management and the special purpose funds, we do so in light of the recent landmark decision of the Supreme Court concerning the constitutionality of certain provisions under previous and present General Appropriations Acts. Bagamat hindi dineklara ng Supreme Court na unconstitutional ang unprogrammed appropriations, malinaw ang naging paalala nito sa Kongreso. We have a constitutional duty to exercise fiscal discipline,

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uphold transparency and accountability, and ensure that every appropriation complies with the mandates of our Constitution. Malinaw po sa inyong lingkod at sa committee na ito ang ating tungkulin. We must ensure that the national budget is not only fiscally sound and responsive to the needs of our people, but also fully compliant with the Constitution. In its decision, the Supreme Court reminded us

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of the fundamental responsibility that comes with the power of the purse. Every peso collected in taxes and fees represents labor rendered, needs deferred, perseverance and sacrifice endured by our people. The General Appropriations Act [unclear] that sacrifice. This should guide us throughout our deliberations and remind us that the power of appropriations is not without limits, especially in light of the provisions provided in the 1987 Constitution.

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Kaya naman po mahalaga ang papel ng DBM sa landmark desisyon na ito. Bukod sa 2.9 bilyon na pondo ng ahensya, ang DBM ay responsable din sa management ng higit-kumulang 550 billion na special purpose funds at unprogrammed appropriations. Nais nating malaman ngayong araw: una, ano ang implikasyon ng desisyon ng Korte Suprema sa binabalangkas nating national budget para sa Fiscal Year 2027?

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Pangalawa, anong adjustments ang kailangan nating baguhin sa kasalukuyang version ng budget upang maiwasan ang anumang constitutional infirmities? Our responsibility does not end with determining how much the government may spend. We must also ensure that public funds are appropriated for clearly defined purposes, supported by available resources, and subject to proper safeguards and accountability.

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Sa madaling salita, hindi sapat na may pondong inilaan. Kailangan malinaw kung saan ito gagamitin, paano ito popondohan, sino ang makikinabang, at paano natin matitiyak na ito ay magagamit nang tama at wasto. At the start of our budget deliberations in the Senate, this representation emphasized our commitment to passing a national budget that responds to the basic needs of our people. Today, as we conduct the last day of budget briefing before sponsoring the proposed

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2027 national budget, allow me to reaffirm that commitment and underscore an equally important responsibility: to ensure that the budget we pass can stand constitutional scrutiny, reflects sound fiscal management, and delivers meaningful and tangible benefits to the Filipino people. Thank you very much. At this point, the Chair would like to acknowledge Senator Marcos for her opening statement.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

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Yes, I simply echo the concerns of our chairman and will ask questions at the appropriate time. Thank you.

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Thank you, Senator Marcos.

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Our Senate President is also joining us very shortly.

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But before that, I now call on the Acting Secretary of the DBM, Secretary Kim Robert De Leon, to deliver his opening statement

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and to present the 2027 proposed expenditure program of the Department of Budget and Management and its attached agency.

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Then, after, Attorney Romando Artez for the Metro Manila Development Authority.

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Secretary Kim, you now have the floor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

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Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

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Senator Marcos, good morning to everyone here in present.

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I am here to present the proposed budget of the DBM and later on, with the indulgence of the good chairperson,

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we'll also ask Assec. Dante de Chavez to provide further details.

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The DBM believes that

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the discipline it asks of the rest of the government must begin with itself. That principle sets the tone for the budget that we will be presenting before this committee today.

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For fiscal year 2027, the Department of Budget and Management is proposing 3.125 billion to support public financial management, procurement reform, digital transformation, transparency, and organizational efficiency.

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This may be a relatively modest budget compared with those of our largest departments, but the DBM carries a mandate that cuts across the entire bureaucracy.

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Its work affects practically every department, every program, and every peso in the national budget.

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At the heart of its mandate is a simple principle. Every peso of public money must be properly allocated, prudently spent, transparently managed, and fully accounted for.

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The DBM pursues this through three pillars. Fiscal discipline, effective resource allocation, and efficient government operations.

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In practical terms, government must spend within its means, put resources where they are needed the most, and continuously improve the way it operates.

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And these are not standards that DBM imposes only on other agencies. They are also reflected on the DBM's own budget.

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As a matter of fact…

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Mr. Chair, Your Honors, the DBM proposed budget for 2027 is even lower than our present 2026 budget.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

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To present in further details, Mr. Chair, Your Honor, the proposed budget of the DBM,

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may I request the committee for the recognition of Assistant Secretary Dante De Chavez

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to provide us, Mr. Chair, in full detail of the DBM as an agency budget.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Yes, Assistant Secretary Dante De Chavez, you are now recognized.

DBM Assistant Secretary Dante de Chavez

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Thank you, DBM Acting Secretary Kim Roberts de Leon,

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to the Chairperson of the Committee on Finance, Senator Ejercito,

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to Senator Aimee Marcos, and to my fellow public servants,

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magandang umaga po sa ating lahat.

DBM Assistant Secretary Dante de Chavez

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Thank you for this opportunity to present an overview

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of the Department of Budget and Management Fiscal Year 2027

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proposed budget for the DBM.

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This budget and key priorities in support of good governance

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and effective public service delivery.

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This presentation, Mr. Chair, will provide a brief overview

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of the Department's recent accomplishments and performance,

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the Fiscal Year 2027 proposed budget, key budget priorities,

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performance targets, and major reform initiatives.

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Allow me to present the Department.

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This is the Department's Fiscal Year 2025 Financial Performance.

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Overall, the Department achieved an obligation rate of 82.82%

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and a disbursement rate of 85.56% in Fiscal Year 2025,

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reflecting the effective implementation of its programs, projects, and activities.

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Building on the Department's Fiscal Year accomplishment,

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I will now present our financial performance.

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The performance during the first semester of Fiscal Year 2026

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and the continuing implementation of our priority initiative.

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On the consolidated basis, the DBM-OSSEC and GPT-BTSO

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recorded 1.44 billion in obligations and 1.04 billion in disbursements

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during the first semester of Fiscal Year 2026,

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equivalent to an obligation rate of 35%.

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On the consolidated basis, the DBM-OSSEC and GPT-BTSO

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recorded 1.44 billion in disbursements during the first semester of Fiscal Year 2026,

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equivalent to an obligation rate of 34.20%

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and a disbursement rate of 71.40%,

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reflecting the continued implementation of the Department's programs, projects, and reform initiatives.

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Having presented our recent performance,

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I will now discuss the Department's Fiscal Year 2027 proposed budget

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and the priorities that will support our continuing reform agenda.

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Thank you.

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The Department's FY2027 budget under the National Expenditure Program

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amounts to 3.125 billion.

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The DBM submitted a proposal of 5.780 billion,

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while the FY2027 NEP provides 3.125 billion

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to support core operations and priority reform.

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The next slide will present the Department's budget trend

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over the last three fiscal years compared to Fiscal Year 2026.

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The 2027 budget reflects a 12.45% decrease,

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primarily due to the lower MOUE requirements

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and the non-inclusion of capital outlay funding

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consistent with the government's expenditure efficiency measure.

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Of the total...

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Of the total Fiscal Year 2027 allocation,

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94.88% is allocated to DBM Office of the Secretary,

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while 5.12% is allocated to the Government Procurement Policy Board,

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Technical Support Office, or GPPB-TSO.

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On the budget dimension,

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to provide a clearer picture of how resources are allocated across the Department,

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I will now discuss the key budget dimensions for Fiscal Year 2027.

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Of the 2.965 billion Fiscal Year 2027 allocation for DBM OSEC,

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about 80.88% is dedicated to the Department's regular programs,

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while 14.05% supports locally funded projects,

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particularly digital transformation and public financial management reforms.

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The locally funded projects funding remains focused on ongoing digitalization,

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digital transformation initiatives,

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including the Budget and Treasury Management System or BTMS-related requirements

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and public financial management reforms.

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Compared with Fiscal Year 2026,

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the budget reflects lower funding requirements

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for certain projects and MOUE items

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consistent with expenditure efficiency measures

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while continuing to support the Department's core mandate,

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and strategic priorities.

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Meanwhile, the GPPB-TSO is allocated 152.31

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million, accounting for

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5.06% of the

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department's total budget.

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The decline in GPPB

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TSO funding is mainly attributable

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to lower MOE requirements

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and the absence of capital outlay

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funding in the fiscal year

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2027 NEP.

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On a consolidated basis,

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the department's fiscal year 2027

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allocation amounts to 3.008

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billion

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of which 2.585

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billion or 85.95

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billion is dedicated

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to regular programs while

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422.67

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billion or 14.05%

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is allocated

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for locally funded projects.

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For the

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physical performance overall,

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this slide presents

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the three-year comparative physical performance

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across its four major programs

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and organizational outcomes.

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The department has

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consistently met or exceeded

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its performance targets

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reflecting the sustained

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effectiveness of its budget

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and management reforms.

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In 2025,

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our performance levels range from

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90.13% to

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99.79%

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whereas in

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2026, most targets

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were achieved and

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2027 will continue

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to pursue performance targets aligned

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with the department's

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strategic priorities and

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organizational outcomes.

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On major projects,

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to complement the department's performance

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outcomes, I will now present our major

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projects and key reform initiative for

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fiscal year 2027.

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Foremost among

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this is the Budget, Treasury, and Management

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System or

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the BTMS which serves as the

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government's flagship reform for

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integrating

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budget, treasury, and

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financial management information

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into a unified digital

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system.

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This is the

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Program Convergence Budget

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Initiative which

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strengthens the alignment

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of government programs and

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investments through the use of

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digital technologies

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and geotagging tools.

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Philippine Open Government

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Partnership to

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Promote Accountability, Openness,

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and Public Engagement in Governance

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and the

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PFM Competency Programme

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to strengthen the capabilities

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of financial management practitioners

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across the government while the

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government optimization

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program supports the

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rationalization, streamlining,

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and organizational strengthening

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of government agencies.

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The Honorable Chairperson, this

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concludes our presentation on the proposed

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budget of the Department of Budgets

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and OSEC and

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GPPB-TSO.

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Thank you very much, Paul.

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Mr. Chair,

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Your Honor,

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Mr. Chair,

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Asik Dante presented

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the proposed budget of the

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DBM as an agency. May I now

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proceed with the presentation on the other

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lump-sum funds?

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Yes, Secretary Kim De Leon, before we proceed,

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the Chair would like to approach the presence of our

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Senate President.

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Senate President Gatchayan is with us

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this morning. Okay, Secretary

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Kim, you may now proceed.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Chair,

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Senate President Gatchayan,

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Senator Marcos. I am now, I will

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now be presenting the proposed

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budget of the seven special

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purpose funds included in the 2027

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NEP along with the programed amounts

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for 2025 and

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2026. And these are

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the following. Allocation to

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local government units with proposed

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allocation for 2027

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of 109.13

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billion pesos composed

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of the following.

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Metro Manila Development Authority

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in the amount of 6.55

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billion. This will be presented

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later on by MMDA.

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Special shares of LGUs in the

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proceeds of national taxes

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in the amount of 31.48

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billion. Local government

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support fund in the amount of 58.53

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billion. Special

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shares of LGUs in the proceeds

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of fire code fees in the

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amount of 1.14 billion

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pesos. And the Bangsamoro Autonomous

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Region in Muslim Mindanao,

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amounting to 11.43

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billion pesos.

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The next SPF is

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budgetary support to government corporations

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with a total proposed

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allocation of 181.97

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billion.

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Contingent fund at 13 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000250

pesos. Miscellaneous personal

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000251

benefits fund at 55.87

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000252

billion. National

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000253

disaster risk reduction and management

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000254

fund at 45.67

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000255

billion. Pension

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000256

and gratuity fund at

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000257

180.27 billion.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000258

And the revised AFP

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000259

modernization program at 50

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000260

billion pesos. These

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000261

seven items bring the total

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000262

recommended program for SPFs

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000263

to 635.9

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000264

billion pesos, equivalent

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000265

to 8.83 percent

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000266

of the 7.2 trillion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000267

total expenditure program

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000268

for fiscal year 2027.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000269

This recommended amount

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000270

is lower by 10.26

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000271

percent or 72.6%

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000272

to 68 billion pesos when

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000273

compared to the current 2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000274

level. Except for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000275

ALGU, BSGC, and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000276

RAFPMP, the details

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000277

and specific agency recipient

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000278

of SPFs become

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000279

available only during budget execution

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000280

subject to certain

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000281

conditions and or approvals.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000282

The next slides will highlight

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000283

the increase or decrease in the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000284

proposed programs per SPF.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000285

The next

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000286

slide will show the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000287

proposed amount for ALGU, net

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000288

of MMDA, and the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000289

programmed amount for 2025

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000290

and 2026.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000291

For fiscal year 2025 and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000292

2026, 67.81

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000293

billion and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000294

101.59 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000295

were appropriated respectively for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000296

ALGU. For 2027,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000297

the proposed total allocation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000298

of ALGU is at 102.57

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000299

billion, reflecting

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000300

an increase of 979.45

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000301

million

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000302

or by 0.96%.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000303

The proposed 102.57

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000304

billion under ALGU is composed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000305

of the following. Local Government

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000306

Support Fund, 58.53

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000307

billion, which includes

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000308

financial assistance to LGUs

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000309

at 37.49 billion,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000310

support to the Barangay Development

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000311

Program of the NTF-ELCAC

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000312

in the amount of 9.74

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000313

billion, Growth Equity Fund

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000314

in the amount of 10.3 billion,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000315

support and assistance fund

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000316

for participatory budgeting in the amount

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000317

of 1 billion pesos.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000318

Bangsa Moro Autonomous Region

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000319

in Muslimindanao

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000320

amounting to 11.43

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000321

billion includes the following.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000322

Special Development Fund

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000323

in the amount of 5 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000324

and the share of BARM in the taxes,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000325

fees, and charges collected

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000326

in the BARM in the amount

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000327

of 6.43 billion as

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000328

certified by the BIR.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000329

The SDF is a

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000330

provision by the National Government

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000331

1 to Section 2, Article

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000332

14 of Republic Act

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000333

11.054

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000334

mandating the amount equivalent

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000335

to 50 billion at 10 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000336

per year to be allocated for the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000337

purpose. For 2027,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000338

we are now at the 8th year

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000339

of the inclusion of this provision.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000340

Meanwhile, the share in

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000341

taxes, fees, and charges

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000342

is of the BARM increased

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000343

by 838 million

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000344

or 15% when compared

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000345

to the 2026 program.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000346

It is to be noted that the subject

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000347

share for 2027

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000348

is based on the estimated collection

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000349

by the BIR, which considered

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000350

the monthly total collection goal

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000351

and certification submitted by

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000352

pertinent BIR revenue region

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000353

and revenue district offices.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000354

The proposed special

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000355

share in the proceeds of national

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000356

taxes for 2027

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000357

is 31.48 billion.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000358

This includes share

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000359

in excise taxes from tobacco,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000360

shares in the utilization of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000361

development and development of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000362

national wealth, share in the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000363

gross income tax in the Cagayan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000364

Special Economic Zone,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000365

shares in incremental collections from

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000366

VAT, and shares in special

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000367

privilege tax.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000368

The proposed amounts for the subject shares

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000369

are based on certification

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000370

submitted by the respective

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000371

collecting agencies.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000372

The decrease of 249.84

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000373

million or

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000374

about 0.79%

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000375

was mainly due to the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000376

downward trajectory

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000377

of the share in national wealth from

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000378

2026 of 8.8

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000379

billion to only about

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000380

8.54 billion in

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000381

2027. The shares

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000382

in excise taxes of Virginia-type

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000383

cigarettes and shares from

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000384

Burley and native tobacco products

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000385

remain unchanged from their

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000386

2025 level, with the proposed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000387

allocation of 14 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000388

and 4 billion, respectively.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000389

Turning now on the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000390

succeeding slide, we present the other

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000391

component of the special shares.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000392

Shares in gross income

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000393

tax collection within the Cagayan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000394

Special Economic Zone

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000395

decreased from 4.83 million

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000396

in 2026 to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000397

3.52 million in 2027,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000398

or a reduction of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000399

27.13%.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000400

Moreover, shares

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000401

in incremental collections from

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000402

VAT also minimally decreased

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000403

from 1.916

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000404

billion this year to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000405

1.915 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000406

in 2027.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000407

For the proposed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000408

fiscal year 2027, an amount

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000409

of 14.62 million

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000410

is also provided for the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000411

share in the 2% special

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000412

privilege tax.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000413

The special shares from fire code fees

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000414

decreased from 1.41

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000415

billion to 1.14

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000416

billion or by

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000417

19.17%.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000418

On the status of releases

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000419

under the 2026 program,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000420

the DBM has

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000421

already released a total of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000422

104 billion pesos, of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000423

which 87.9

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000424

billion was charged against the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000425

2026 GAA and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000426

16.29 billion from

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000427

the 2025 GAA.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000428

The balance of this fund as of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000429

September 30, 2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000430

stands at 26.28

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000431

billion, comprising of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000432

20.52 billion from the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000433

current year GAA and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000434

5.76 billion from

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000435

the 2025 GAA.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000436

In the case of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000437

budgetary support to government

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000438

corporations, the 31.29%

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000439

decrease is largely

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000440

attributable to the lower allocation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000441

for PH PhilHealth

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000442

under the 2027 proposed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000443

NEP, primarily because

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000444

of the additional appropriation for this

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000445

year of 60 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000446

under the 2026 GAA

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000447

in compliance with the Supreme

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000448

Court decision. For the status

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000449

of the 2026 BSGC,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000450

as of end of third quarter,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000451

total allotment releases amounted

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000452

to 252.39

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000453

billion, of which

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000454

251.75

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000455

was charged against the current

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000456

year's GAA and another

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000457

644 million from the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000458

2025 continuing appropriation.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000459

This leaves a balance

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000460

of 27.47

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000461

billion, or about

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000462

23.5 billion from the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000463

2026 GAA and another

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000464

3.95 billion from the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000465

2025 continuing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000466

appropriations. Overall,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000467

the top 10 GOCCs

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000468

remain the same from the previous year,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000469

except for the PRA,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000470

which did not receive any subsidy

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000471

in the current year GAA

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000472

and was provided 5 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000473

for the partial requirement of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000474

Philippine International Exhibition Center

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000475

project for fiscal year

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000476

2027. The other

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000477

GOCCs in the top 10

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000478

have generally shown a decreasing trend

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000479

due to exclusion of non-recurring

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000480

2025

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000481

SICAs and completed projects.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000482

For PhilHealth, the decrease

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000483

of 55.35 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000484

is primarily attributed to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000485

the one-time restoration of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000486

the excess or unused PhilHealth

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000487

subsidies amounting to 60 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000488

to cover annual insurance premiums

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000489

to indigent beneficiaries in

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000490

2026 in compliance

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000491

with the Supreme Court decision.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000492

For NIA, the decrease

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000493

of 16.89 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000494

is due to the exclusion of non-recurring

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000495

infrastructure.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000496

and decrease of provision

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000497

for foreign-assisted project

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000498

Halaul River Multipurpose Project

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000499

Stage 2, ILO-ILO

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000500

under a KEDCF

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000501

loan from 5.76

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000502

billion to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000503

961.32 million

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000504

in 2027, among others.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000505

For NFA,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000506

the decrease of 115 million

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000507

is due to the exclusion of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000508

non-recurring SICA for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000509

the procurement of recirculating

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000510

mechanical dryers,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000511

and establishment of NFA

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000512

warehouses in support of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000513

bumper stocking program.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000514

For NIA, the decrease of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000515

3.65 billion is due

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000516

to its 2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000517

SICA of 3.67 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000518

attributed to its

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000519

strategized rural

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000520

electrification and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000521

operational reliability for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000522

electric cooperatives.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000523

While for PDIC, the decrease

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000524

of 2 billion is due to its

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000525

2026 SICA for the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000526

insurance coverage of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000527

agricultural crops, non-crops,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000528

or RSBSA-listed farmers

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000529

and fisher folks.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000530

For PFDA, the decrease

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000531

of 720 million pertains

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000532

to its projects that will be completed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000533

this year. For the Philippine

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000534

Heart Center, the exclusion of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000535

non-recurring SICA from 2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000536

with a net amount of 1.17

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000537

billion after considering

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000538

the reimbursements of its quantified

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000539

free services. The same

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000540

is true with the NHA.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000541

The reduction in the amount of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000542

1.62 billion is due to the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000543

exclusion of various non-recurring

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000544

projects in the 2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000545

budget. For the National

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000546

Dairy Authority, the reduction

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000547

of 125.3

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000548

million pertains to the exclusion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000549

of non-recurring projects.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000550

As of end of the third quarter,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000551

releases for the top 10 GOCCs

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000552

amounted to 220

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000553

billion pesos, of which

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000554

91%

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000555

of the total 2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000556

allocation, leaving

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000557

an unreleased balance of only

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000558

21.6 billion.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000559

For the contingent fund, we are proposing to allocate 13 billion pesos which is the same level as in 2025 and 2026.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000560

This fund covers funding requirements of new or urgent activities or projects of NGAs, GOCCs, and LGUs that need to be implemented or paid during the year, such as but not limited to the following.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000561

Legal obligation of the government arising from final and executory decisions of competent authorities, such as compromise agreements, arbitral awards, mediation settlement agreement, and professional services in connection thereto, requirements of newly created offices, or deficiencies in the appropriations for local and external travels of the President of the Philippines.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000562

In no case shall it be used for the following.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000563

The provision of confidential and intelligence fund to civilian organizations.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000564

Departments and agencies with no mandate to perform security and intelligence-related functions, unless the President certifies as to the extreme necessity thereof, and for the purchase of motor vehicles, including any improvements thereon.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000565

The release from the contingent fund is subject to the prior approval of the President of the Philippines, except for the payment resulting from final and executory decisions of competent authorities.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000566

For the status of the 2026 contingent fund,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000567

as of end of third quarter, total allotments released to various implementing agencies amounts to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000568

16.35 billion, thereby leaving a balance of 3.13 billion pesos.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000569

The balance is comprised of 2.31 billion from 2026 GAA and the remaining 820 million from the continuing appropriations of 2025.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000570

A significant portion of releases from this.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000571

This fund pertains to the National Government subsidy to the Philippine Reclamation Authority for the partial requirements in the implementation of the Philippine International Exhibition Center project amounting to 6 billion,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000572

various urgent infrastructure projects of the DPWH amounting to 5.98 billion,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000573

and the allocation for the immediate full rehabilitation and replacement of rubber blather in Bustos Dam amounting to 1.5 billion under the National

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000577

Irrigation Administration.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000578

Effective 2027,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000579

the MPBF has been

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000580

consolidated into a single purpose

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000581

to eliminate the need to modify purposes

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000582

within MPBF due to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000583

depletion during budget execution.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000584

We are proposing for this

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000585

fund, 55.87

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000586

billion, to be used

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000587

to cover requirements of eligible

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000588

agencies for the grant of PBB,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000589

PS costs for the continuous

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000590

hiring to fill vacant

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000591

positions, payment of other

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000592

personal benefits, requirements

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000593

for staffing modifications

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000594

and upgrading of salaries,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000595

reclassification of faculty positions

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000596

in SUCs, and for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000597

the Legal Defense Fund, among others.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000598

May we note that for the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000599

2026 GAA level of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000600

MPBF, it was significantly

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000601

reduced by 34.47

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000602

billion from

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000603

111.52 in

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000604

the NEP to only

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000605

77.05 under the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000606

GAA. On the status

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000607

of the MPBF as of the end of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000608

third quarter, total releases

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000609

reached 23.85

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000610

billion while the remaining

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000611

balance stands at 53.2

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000612

billion. This will cover

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000613

the payment of performance-based

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000614

bonus for eligible government employees

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000615

starting this

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000616

quarter, the fourth quarter, with

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000617

a ballpark figure of 27.2

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000618

billion and payment

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000619

of PS deficiencies estimated

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000620

at 12.86 billion pesos.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000621

Which is expected

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000622

to be released on the last quarter of the year.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000623

A balance of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000624

198.35 million

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000625

remains under the continuing appropriations

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000626

of the Legal Defense Fund.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000627

Mr. Chair,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000628

your honors, for 2027

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000629

we are proposing a

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000630

45.67 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000631

allocation for the NDRMF

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000632

representing an increase of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000633

5.85 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000634

from the 2026 allocation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000635

of 39.82 billion.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000636

The NDRMF shall be used

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000637

for the following. For disaster

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000638

risk reduction or mitigation, prevention

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000639

and preparedness activities, such

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000640

as but not limited to training of personnel,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000641

procurement of equipment, capital

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000642

expenditure and other pre-disaster

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000643

activities, including aid, relief,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000644

recovery, reconstruction and other work

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000645

at 30 billion.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000646

Adaptation projects of LGUs

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000647

and community organizations

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000648

under the People's Survival Fund

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000649

at 1 billion, pursuant

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000650

to Sections 20 and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000651

21 of RA 9729

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000652

and the Disaster Rehabilitation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000653

and Reconstruction Assistance Program

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000654

for LGUs at

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000655

14.67 billion.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000656

On the status of the NDRMF

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000657

as of end of Q3,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000658

the DBM has already released

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000659

a total allotment of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000660

17.30 billion pesos under

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000661

the current year GAA,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000662

consisting of 1.08

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000663

billion for regular NDRM program

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000664

and 16.22

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000665

billion for the replenishment,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000666

quick response fund of various

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000667

agencies. This leaves

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000668

a balance of 22.84

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000669

billion, consisting of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000670

22.52 billion under the current

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000671

GAA and 322

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000672

billion under the 2025

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000673

GAA. Similar

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000674

to the MPBF, the PGF

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000675

has likewise been consolidated

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000676

into a single purpose to eliminate

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000677

the need to modify purposes within the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000678

PGF due to depletion during

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000679

budget execution. For this

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000680

fund, we are proposing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000681

180 billion to be used

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000682

for claims of retired government personnel

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000683

as well as to fund

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000684

pension requirements of civilian and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000685

military and uniform personnel,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000686

retirement and terminal leave benefits,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000687

separation benefits and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000688

incentives, and monetization

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000689

of leave credits. The

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000690

proposed amount for 2027

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000691

will be higher by 14.75

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000692

billion over the 2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000693

level of 165.52

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000694

billion. The

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000695

proposed budget was based on the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000696

agency's submission of the list of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000697

optional retirees,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000698

MUP pension requirements,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000699

and potential funds for the government's

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000700

optimization reform,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000701

specifically for separation benefits

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000702

and other retirement gratuity

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000703

and terminal leave deficiencies.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000704

As of end of third quarter,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000705

the DBM has released a total amount

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000706

of 145.94

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000707

billion, or 88.2%

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000708

of the fiscal year

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000709

2026 PGF.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000710

The program balance as of date,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000711

is at 19.58

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000712

billion, which is expected

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000713

to be fully utilized by the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000714

last quarter of the year to accommodate

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000715

requests for terminal

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000716

leave benefits, remaining

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000717

pension requirements, and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000718

monetization of leave credits

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000719

for fiscal year

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000720

2025 PGF. A

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000721

balance of 13 million remains

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000722

for requirements of personnel devolved

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000723

to LGUs.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000724

Mr. Chair, your honors, for the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000725

revised AFP modernization program,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000726

we are proposing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000727

50 billion for fiscal year

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000728

2027, representing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000729

an increase of 10 billion from the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000730

current year level of 40 billion.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000731

The funds shall be used for the acquisition

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000732

and upgrading of AFP equipment

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000733

and systems. On the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000734

status of the 2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000735

RAFP MP as of end of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000736

third quarter, the DBM has

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000737

already released 34.13

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000738

billion, of which

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000739

33.79 from

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000740

current year appropriation, and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000741

143 million from continuing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000742

2025 appropriations.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000743

The available balance of the RAFP

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000744

MP as of end of third quarter

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000745

stands at 6.209

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000746

billion, comprising

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000747

of 6.205 from

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000748

2026 and 3.56

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000749

million from 2025.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000750

I now move

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000751

to the proposed and programmed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000752

appropriations for 2027

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000753

with the amount of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000754

118.98 billion.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000755

UA provides,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000756

and by authority, to incur additional

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000757

agency obligations for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000758

priority programs or projects

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000759

when the revenue source has exceeded

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000760

the corresponding revenue collection

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000761

targets, and when additional

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000762

grants or foreign funds are generated.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000763

The 111.98

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000764

billion proposed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000765

level represents

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000766

1.56%

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000767

of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000768

7.2 trillion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000769

total budget,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000770

proposed budget for 2027.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000771

The breakdown of which

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000772

is as follows.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000773

Partial restoration of the fund balances

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000774

of PDIC at

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000775

67 billion,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000776

57 billion,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000777

conversion of national government

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000778

advances into subsidy for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000779

GOCCs at 8.83

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000780

billion, support to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000781

foreign-assisted projects

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000782

that are already in the pipeline

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000783

at 42.59

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000784

billion,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000785

program on risk management

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000786

at 3.6 billion pesos.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000787

The RMP shall be subject

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000788

to the issuance of new guidelines

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000789

to be formulated by the Public-Private

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000790

Partnership Center of the Philippines

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000791

in coordination with the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000792

Interagency Technical Working Group

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000793

on Contingent Liabilities

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000794

as approved by the DBCC.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000795

The proposed budget

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000796

for UA posts a significant

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000797

decrease of 38.92

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000798

billion or

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000799

25.79%

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000800

from 150% of the total budget.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000801

For the current year,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000802

net of items vetoed by the President.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000803

On the status of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000804

2026 UA, total

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000805

releases as of end of Q3

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000806

amounted to 129 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000807

or 85.51%,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000808

leaving a balance

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000809

of 21.87 billion.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000810

May we

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000811

note, Mr. Chair, your honors,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000812

that the proposed level for UA

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000813

is the lowest

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000814

nominally since 2019,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000815

and the lowest as a percentage

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000816

of the total

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000817

expenditure program or the NEP

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000818

as early as

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000819

1991.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000820

That ends your honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000821

Our presentation materials

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000822

for the various special

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000823

purpose funds, including the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000824

unprogrammed appropriations. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000825

Thank you, Secretary

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000826

de Leon.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000827

Just to make it clear before we

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000828

allow our colleagues to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000829

ask questions first,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000830

ito, this is all based on

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000831

the NEP, no? Lahat ng figures dito.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000832

Hindi pa ito HGAB. Kasi

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000833

ibang iba na yung HGAB, eh.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000834

Which also, yes.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000835

Ang ano ko lang doon, one glaring

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000836

that I'm quite, alam po doon

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000837

the Senate President of one of my advocacies.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000838

And my concern

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000839

doon po sa foreign

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000840

assisted projects, no? Medyo yun yung malaking

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000841

ano sa HGAB.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000842

Dito yung unprogrammed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000843

42 billion but

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000844

in the HGAB,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000845

there's a special

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000846

difference of

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000847

130 billion yung nawala.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000848

But I would like to, I also

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000849

talk to them that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000850

some of their leadership

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000851

that we intend to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000852

restore.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000853

Especially yung pong mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000854

ano natin.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000855

Loan proceeds and the government

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000856

counterpart that we

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000857

do not want repeat of

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000858

2025 and 2024 na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000859

napunta siya sa unprogrammed.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000860

We do not want any delays anymore. These are

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000861

obligations. And these are

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000862

ito yung mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000863

legacy

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000864

and projects that are for nation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000865

building that para sa akin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000866

should be prioritized.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000867

Na hindi pwedeng

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000868

paghati-hatian.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000869

So yun lang. I just want to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000870

later probably we'll ask

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000871

I just want to confirm that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000872

this one is a NEP

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000873

figures.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000874

Meron lang kami concerns

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000875

dun sa ano.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000876

But we are not ready.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000877

Iba naman pinawanag na rin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000878

ng House Counterparts natin.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000879

Yung iba.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000880

But we would like to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000881

emphasize that we would

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000882

prioritize itong mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000883

legacy projects

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000884

and also yung sa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000885

other services like health.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000886

Also MMDA probably.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000887

Siguro parang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000888

tuloy-tuloy na. May presentation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000889

ka? Attorney?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000890

Chairman na Artes?

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000891

Yes, Your Honor. Very short presentation.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000892

Please proceed. Especially lalo yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000893

mga ano no. I'm interested

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000894

especially sa mga flood mitigation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000895

projects ng MMDA

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000896

lalo na sa Metro Manila kasi itong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000897

recent habagat pa lang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000898

habagat pa lang bangbahan na tayo

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000899

kasi maraming

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000900

factors. I think yung mga dredging

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000901

natin for 15 years walang dredging

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000902

so I would like to ask

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000903

you later if we

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000904

need to have budget for dredging

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000905

kasi talagang I would

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000906

suppose that our rivers

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000907

main river, our tributaries

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000908

are heavily silted already

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000909

by now kasi 15 years walang dredging

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000910

diba? Sige, attorney, ano

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000911

our chairman, Artes, you may

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000912

proceed.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000912-split-2

Good morning, Your Honors.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000913

First, I'll be

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000914

presenting the budgetary requests

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000915

for fiscal year

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000916

2027. Stated

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000917

in RA 7924

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000918

MMDA shall

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000919

perform among others

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000920

planning, monitoring, and

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000921

coordinating functions.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000922

Regulatory and supervisory

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000923

authority over the delivery

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000924

of Metro-wide services.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000925

The scope of our services

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000926

include development

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000927

planning, solid waste disposal

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000928

and management, traffic and

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000929

transport management, flood

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000930

control and sewerage management,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000931

urban renewal, zoning,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000932

land use planning, and shelter services,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000933

health and sanitation,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000934

urban protection and pollution

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000935

control, and public

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000936

safety. For fiscal

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000937

for fiscal year

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000938

2027, we are requesting

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000939

6.560

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000940

billion pesos

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000941

composed of

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000942

personal services,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000943

82 million,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000944

maintenance and other operating expenses,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000945

3.2 billion,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000946

and capital outlay

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000947

of 3.2 billion

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000948

for a total of

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000949

6.560

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000950

billion.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000951

And

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000952

comparing

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000953

budget for

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000954

fiscal year 2026

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000955

RGAA is

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000956

6.783 billion

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000958

while for the 2027 NEP, our proposed budget is 6.560 billion or for a decrease of 222 million pesos.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-000959

That's all for our presentation, Your Honors.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000960

Thank you, Chairman Artes. Probably we could already start the ball rolling.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000961

I mean, Marcos was the first one to arrive but our Senate President, of course, you have the priority.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000962

Okay, of course, as always, the Senate President yields.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000963

Senator Marcos, you may now proceed with your questions.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000964

Yes, my first question will probably be regarding Falgo because in a reduced budget, it is a distinct increase.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000965

What's the policy in the Falgo retaining congressional increases?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000966

What justified the increase? Falgo was originally proposed at 5 billion.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000967

In the 2026 NEP, increased by 41.845 billion in the House GAAP, enacted at 37.493 in the 2026 GAA.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000968

The enacted amount represents a 32.493 billion increase over the NEP, which was retained in the 2027.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000969

As we understand, the usual policy of DBM, yung congressional increases, tinatanggal,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000970

sa panibagong budget sa susunod na taon, reverting the allocations to their originally proposed levels.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000971

Bakit dito nag-iba?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000972

Imbes natanggalin, bakit rinitain yung congressional increase noong 2026 sa Falgo?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000973

Is this an exception? And were the same criteria applied?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000974

Bakit ninyo rinitain na dati-dati talaga tinatanggal yan, diba? Binabalik sa dating level ng NEP?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000975

Mr. Chair, Your Honor, the principal reason for the increase in the allocation for Falgo is brought about by the request as well from the various leagues of local government units.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000976

And in 2026, we saw the implementation of the Bawat Bayan Makikinabang Program of the President under the Falgo.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000977

And it is the first time under the history of Falgo where all LGUs, municipalities, cities, and provinces actually receive an allocation.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000979

From the Falgo, covering among others the distribution of rice for our fellow citizens.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000980

So that was also the same policy that was carried over for 2027.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000981

So that means the rice distribution program under the Falgo will be carried over to 2027 as well, citing the implementation that we have had in 2026.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000982

So we intend to pursue that for 2027.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000983

Hence, we retained the level...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000984

Level approved under the GAA for the 2027 to sustain the implementation of the Bawat Bayan Makikinabang Program, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000985

Nako, Secretary, kapag nakinig kayo sa lahat ng request ng politiko, patay kang bata ka.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000986

At bakit naging mas politiko pa ang BBM kesa sa amin?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000987

Dahil as of 15 August 2026, only 1.606 billion or 4.3 of the 2026 appropriation has actually been obligated.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000988

Tapos yung disbursement, ang baba-baba pati, nasa 1.45.973 million.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000989

So what justifies this humongous increase in the allocation from 2026 to 2027 na 5 billion lang dati, lumobo na sa 37.493.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000990

Samantalang hindi naman pala nagagastos ang baba-baba ng implementation.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000991

Di ba yan parati ninyo sinisita sa amin?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000992

Hindi nag-iimplement.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000993

Hindi nag-iimplement itong mga ahensya at hindi pwede natin i-increase.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000994

Identify please the projects and explain.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000995

Ang baba ng implementation, ba't kayo nagdagdag ng napakalaki?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000996

From 5 billion, naging 37.493.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-000997

Paano himala yan?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000998

Mr. Chair, Your Honor, again we note that almost half of the amount appropriated for Falgo went to the rice distribution program.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-000999

And we recognize the figures.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001000

And we recognize the figures stated by the Honorable Marcos on the implementation.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001001

These may be the figures from the monitoring of the DILG of the implementation of the Falgo.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001002

Hindi palagas ninyo, DBM2.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001003

Oo.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001004

Nasa 4.3 lang.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001005

Because it was generated, Your Honor, from the actual LGU-reported obligation and disbursement under the Subay Bayan Portal.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001006

Okay. Ganito na lang, Secretary.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001007

Identify the projects and LGUs provided assistance under the 2025 and 2027.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001008

FAA Appropriation for Falgo.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001009

Yung FAA.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001010

Bigay na lang ninyo listahan bago mag-plenary kami kung talagang handa ba sila mag-implement and the measures needed to prevent another backlog.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001011

4.3, entering the last quarter is a miserable figure.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001012

You know that better than I.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001013

Kayo nagmo-monitor dyan.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001014

So yung next question ko.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001015

With the indulgence of Senator Marcos.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001016

With that.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001017

Para nang hindi naulitin mamaya.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001018

Kasi nagiging magandang.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001019

It will be nice if this can be addressed as Secretary de Leon.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001020

That itong.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001021

They view the LGSF now as the port.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001022

The new port.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001023

Para mawala na lang po yung ganong agam-agam.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001024

It's the DBM that nagpo-process.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001025

Nag-revet supposedly.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001026

So can you just tell us what are the criteria, factors, parameters?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001027

BAU.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001028

In determining which LGUs receive more support, ilang porsyento ng ating mga LGUs ang nakinabang sa LGSF allocation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001029

para makita natin kung may pinapaboran ba o talagang lahat naman ay napagbibigyan.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001030

So can you address this issue once and for all para malaman natin kung ano yung criteria, factors, and parameters.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001031

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001032

Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001033

We would gladly share the parameters we are using.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001034

In terms of processing the release for LGUs.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001035

But to the Honorable Senator Marcos' request for the list, we will certainly provide the list of recipients of FALGO for 2025 and 2026.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001036

But as of right now, the list is also available online through the DBM Compass.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001037

But we'll certainly furnish the list to the committee and to the Senator's office.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001038

For the criteria that we use, the DBM looks at certain parameters in releasing the funds to our...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001039

Number one, good financial housekeeping.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001040

Second is compliance with the reporting requirements.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001041

As we have said, we are working with the DILG to make sure that the LGUs are using the funds in accordance with the purpose for which it was released.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001042

That is why we also have the Subay Bayan portal that is up and live right now where our fellow citizens can actually see the status of the projects funded by the FALGO.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001043

We also look at...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001044

Prior accomplishment, both physical and financial, in terms of their utilization of the past LGSF FALGO releases.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001045

As to the question on reference on the LGSF as pork, may we note that in the Belgica versus Ochoa case, which declared the pork barrel system unconstitutional,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001046

there's a decision that actually...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001047

Decision by the Supreme Court in Belgica versus Executive Secretariat.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001048

That actually upheld the constitutionality of the LGSF under the 2014 GAA, recognizing its discernible singular appropriation purpose of providing funds for supporting local governments.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001049

The court further ruled that the LGSF satisfied the two requirements, which is completeness and sufficiency standard test.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001050

But as we have mentioned at the House of Representatives, we remain committed to working with Congress.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001051

If there is a need to introduce additional measures and safeguards to make sure that the local government support fund complies with this jurisprudence of the Supreme Court, Mr. Chair or Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001052

Thank you, Secretary De Leon.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001053

Before Senator Marcos, I'd just like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Pangilinan.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001054

Thank you. Please proceed, Senator Marcos.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001055

Having said that, at lahat naman tayo kilala yung Belgica versus Ochoa,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001056

ang tinatanong ko lang,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001057

bakit napaka-baba ng implementasyon?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001058

Ang baba-baba ng implementation.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001059

What is it actually now?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001060

Sinasabi mo, half went to the rise.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001061

Pero actually, ang nasa libro ninyo, nasa 4.3 lang,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001062

ang na-obligate.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001063

Tapos mas mababa pa dun yung nadidisperse.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001064

So ano ba talaga yung totoo?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001065

Ba't ang baba-baba higit sa lahat?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001066

At bakit tayo nagdadagdag kung hindi naman natin na-implement?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001067

Kayo ang makulit dyan eh, kung tutuusin.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001068

And we look at really the bottom line why the implementation of the LGSF

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001069

went a little bit slow for this time.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001070

Half of the funds went to rise and in fact…

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001071

Maling rise kasi napakaraming rise.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001072

It's the rise distribution program.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001073

Ito po yung rise distribution program under the LGSF.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001074

Ito po yung under the banner of Bawat Bayan Makikinabang.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001075

Ito po yung program rin ng LGSF.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001076

Maliban pa sa…

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001077

Billion-billion sa DA.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001078

That is correct, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001079

Tapos may rise program din.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001080

Ito ba yung rise for all program or iba pa to?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001081

Ang rise for all program, Your Honor, ito po yung under ng DA.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001082

And ito naman, yung LGSF price, magkano yan?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001083

Grabing kadami naman ng rise.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001084

I'm just getting the actual amount, Your Honor, Mr. Chair.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001085

But the rise program under the LGSF,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001086

ito po yung ang intention niya is to provide free rise allocation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001087

para sa bottom 25% of the population.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001088

As of October 15, from that LGSF amount,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001089

22.96 billion have been released to various LGUs

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001090

for the implementation of the rise distribution program.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001091

So, ito sa DA, hiwalay pa rin sa DSWD.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001092

This is directly released to the LGUs, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001093

For the record lang, Secretary,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001094

magkano na ako na-disperse natin for the rise distribution program under the LGSF?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001095

Tama.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001096

That's correct.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001097

Insofar as the national government, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001098

we book recording when the funds are transferred to the LGUs.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001099

So, it's the 22 billion that's already released to the LGUs.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001100

Almost 23 is actually in the LGU na.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001101

Wala na yan sa inyo talaga.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001102

That is correct, Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001103

It's downloaded.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001104

It's not obligated or disbursed.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001105

Ano na siya?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001106

On the books of the national government, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001107

it's both obligated and disbursed to the local government.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001108

O, sige. So, wala na kayo sa 4.3?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001109

Probably, Your Honor, the 4.3 is the aggregate implementation of the LGUs themselves.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001110

Hindi ko alam.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001111

After nanggaring rin sa inyo yung figure na yan,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001112

kaya ako nagtataka eh.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001113

Tapos dadagdagan ng limpak-limpak.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001114

Nakakasindak naman talaga.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001115

In any case, I'd like to proceed to another...

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001116

which already has been raised by our chairman.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001117

Ito yung nakakabiglang desisyon ng Supreme Court

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001118

determining the unconstitutionality of both the GAA 2024 and 2025.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001119

The doctrine, obviously, of operative fact is in play.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001120

And Justice Leono, who penned the decision,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001121

invoked that together with good faith

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001122

and asserting no blanket shield for officials.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001123

Who condoned such releases.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001124

And the accountability is reasserted over these funds.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001125

So, criminal, administrative, and civil cases can follow this decision.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001126

I understand it will be appealed by the executive.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001127

Nevertheless, what is very, very clear is that

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001128

unexpended amounts from the budget of 2024 to 2025,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001129

unexpended or unspent amounts can no longer be disbursed.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001130

Ano ang pagkaintindi ninyo yan?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001131

What is the scope?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001132

Because the dispositive portion identifies specific congressional increases.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001133

Nakita natin yan.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001134

And declares unconstitutional, consequently, the entire budget.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001135

Anong intindi ninyo yan?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001136

Does the DBM interpret this as the entire GAA of both years

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001137

becoming unconstitutional?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001138

The unprogrammed appropriations?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001139

Or only those congressional increases that were identified in the decision?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001140

Are you interpreting narrowly, or moderately, or liberally?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001141

Samba tayo.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001142

Mr. Chair, Your Honor, actually over the past two nights,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001143

the DBM-EXECOM has been carefully reviewing the Supreme Court's decision

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001144

to assess not only its legal, but also the fiscal, technical, and operational implications.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001145

And to determine whether or not the DBM-EXECOM is going to be unconstitutional,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001146

and to determine the appropriate steps and next steps.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001147

As mentioned by the Honorable Marcos,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001148

in fact, that's one of our points for discussion.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001149

With the reference to the declaration of unconstitutionality

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001150

as a consequence of the entire 2025 GAA,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001151

which remains valid up to now because it's continuing appropriation.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001152

Tama.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001153

We are still...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001154

Malawan toon yan eh, dito.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001155

That's correct, Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001156

So, pasok pa rin ng 2026.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001157

We are discussing and probably discussing,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001158

this is one of the items as mentioned by the Office of the Solicitor General

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001159

that we will be seeking clarification from the Supreme Court

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001160

because there are a lot of operational issues that may arise from this.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001161

There are unreleased appropriations.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001162

Ang dami pang unreleased, particularly yung 2025.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001163

There are also available still.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001164

That's correct, Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001165

There are also unobligated allotments on the part of the agencies.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001166

And there are also unpaid obligations.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001167

That's correct, Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001168

So, these are the things that we are...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001169

listing down and we'll be closely coordinating with the Office of the Solicitor General.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001170

the DBM, hihintuin muna lahat

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001171

ng bayarin

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001172

dahil hindi tayo sigurado

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001173

we're in limbo. Medyo

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001174

alanganin, what legal basis if any

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001175

will you have for further releases

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001176

and payments under the affected

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001177

appropriations? Definitely

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001178

maliwanag yung congressional

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001179

insertion na

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001180

were flagged. Yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001181

449.5

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001182

billion na unprogrammed

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001183

at saka yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001184

17.99 special

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001185

road fund. Definitely

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001186

yun hihintuin. Tama po ba?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001187

As of this time

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001188

your honor, we're scheduled to meet with the office

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001189

of the Solicitor General to craft

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001190

the next step. Mayroong titiw pa ba dyan?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001191

Doon sa dalawang in-identify

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001192

na congressional insertion.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001193

Yung special

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001194

road fund meron pa daw, saka yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001195

unprogrammed. For the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001196

2025 GAA

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001197

subject of the decision, your honor, it pertains

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001198

to the special road fund. That's correct.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001199

And we confirm that there are

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001200

unreleased portion of the special road

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001201

fund for 2025.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001202

The covered

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001203

increased amount mentioned in the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001204

decision remains unreleased.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001205

The entire amount? Yes, the increase, your honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001206

And then...

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001207

Hingit lang ako, Senator Aimee. Yes, please.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001208

Regarding this matter also, what is the total

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001209

amount of the unprogrammed appropriations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001210

released under the provisions affected?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001211

By the ruling, if there is.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001212

Sabi niya, wala pa daw yung sa special road fund.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001213

Probably later on,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001214

pa-check muna, kung magkano yung lahat

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001215

ng appropriations that were released under the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001216

provisions affected.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001217

Yung sa 449

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001218

na 0.5 billion.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001219

Yung sa 449

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001220

ng 2024,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001221

magkano doon ang narilisaan program?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001222

Yung tinatanong ng chairman namin,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001223

yung sa 2024,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001224

palagay ko marami

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001225

nang narilis dyan eh. Yung 2025,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001226

sinasabi niya yung special road fund,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001227

wala pa lumalabas?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001228

Your honor, Mr. Chair,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001229

what I have right now is

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001230

the information on what

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001231

has been released out of the total

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001232

unprogrammed appropriations for 2024.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001233

It stands at

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001234

531.374

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001235

billion pesos.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001236

But I understand the question

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001237

of the Honorable Senator Marcos is

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001238

how much is attributable to the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001239

that 400, that increase

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001240

that we will have to match and will

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001241

submit accordingly to the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001242

I think it's unquestionable that the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001243

increase cited by the Supreme

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001244

Court

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001245

cannot bear further releases

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001246

at this point until we get clarity.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001247

Although,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001248

Mr. Chair, Your Honor, on the release

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001249

of what remains to be unreleased

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001250

from the 2024 UA, certainly

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001251

we will no longer release kasi po ang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001252

validity lamang po noon is until

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001253

December 31, 2025.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001254

That is correct, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001255

Pero yung 2025,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001256

sabi mo, 100%

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001257

intact ba yan sa inyo, tama ba?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001258

It's just the increase, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001259

the subject increase. We have not

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001260

released that, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001261

Yan, nandun buo pa.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001262

Please give us the figures

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001263

sana before

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001264

plenary, pag nabuon ninyo

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001265

at na-disaggregate yung mga pondo,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001266

kung alin yung increase,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001267

alin yung main, ha?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001268

Sige. So, who authorized?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001269

Sir Marcos, isa lang tanong ulit.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001270

Sige na ako. Among the items included are the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001271

strengthening assistance, yung sa GIP.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001272

So, allocated was

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001273

160 billion under

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001274

GA 2025

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001275

and another 225

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001276

billion under GA

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001277

2024 pa.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001278

Can we just confirm kung tama yung figures?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001279

160 billion in

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001280

2025 and 225 billion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001281

under 2024.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001282

For 2025,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001283

Mr. Chair, sa GIP,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001284

GAA level is

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001285

160.122 billion. That is correct,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001286

Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001287

In 2024, it's

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001288

225 billion.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001289

Tama ba?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001290

For 2024,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001291

your honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001292

sa GIP is

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001293

225.376 billion, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001294

Thank you. Just for the record.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001295

Thank you, Sir Marcos.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001296

Yes, since we're on the topic of the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001297

unprogrammed, the very

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001298

controversial unprogrammed

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001299

appropriations, who actually

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001300

authorizes releases exceeding

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001301

certified funding sources?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001302

It's in your COA report,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001303

a qualified decision,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001304

that the 2024

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001305

SARO releases, totaling

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001306

394.156

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001307

billion, exceeded

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001308

the accumulated excess revenue

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001309

and the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001310

GOCC fund balances,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001311

certified by the Treasury,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001312

exceeded 17.093

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001313

billion. What supported

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001314

this difference when the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001315

releases were approved?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001316

Was another valid funding

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001317

certification available?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001318

Ba't kayo nag-release ng labis-labis?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001319

Who verified its availability?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001320

Sabi ng COA, walang pera.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001321

Ba't kayo naglabas?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001322

Mr. Chair, Your Honor, we would like

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001323

to qualify that releases

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001324

from unprogrammed appropriations

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001325

are triggered.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001326

In two separate occasions.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001327

One is the support for foreign-assisted

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001328

projects, particularly the loan proceeds

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001329

does not require an actual

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001330

certification from the BTR.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001331

And we have actually discussed this

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001332

with our auditor

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001333

that for support of foreign-assisted

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001334

projects, it's only to be supported by

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001335

loan proceeds. And

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001336

availability of a certification from the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001337

BTR is not necessary

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001338

for releases out of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001339

the FAFSA. And we would like to assure

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001340

the committee that releases

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001341

from the excess revenue

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001342

are all supported by

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001343

BTR certifications. And we stand

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001344

ready as we did before the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001345

Supreme Court to provide the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001346

actual accounting of releases versus

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001347

certified amounts by the BTR.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001348

But Secretary, that's simply not the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001349

finding of COA. They said you released

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001350

in excess of revenues

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001351

and DOTC

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001352

amounts.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001353

So,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001354

who ordered this?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001355

Are we to assume

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001356

that this is a FAFSA?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001357

Is this a foreign-assisted?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001358

Is this automatic?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001359

Even though it's automatic, it has a paper, right?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001360

It's not magic.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001361

Well, for releases, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001362

Mr. Chair, from unprogrammed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001363

appropriations, we still issue

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001364

special allotment relief orders.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001365

Of course, there's a SARO.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001366

SARO is approved by the DBM.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001367

But again, as we have replied

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001368

to our COA auditor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001369

we followed the instructions.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001370

We followed the respective triggers

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001371

as stated in the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001372

special provisions of the unprogrammed appropriations.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001373

Yes, that's what we

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001374

understand, Secretary.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001375

Itatanong ko rin,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001376

sabi mo, it's triggered by two events

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001377

na hindi kailangan ng certification.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001378

Una, yung FAFSA, yung foreign-assisted.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001379

Ano yung kalawa?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001380

Isa po, Your Honor, Mr. Chair,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001381

ay yung conversion of advances

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001382

sa GOCC.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001383

Conversion of advances to

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001384

subsidy.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001385

So, SARO,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001386

lang po ito

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001387

for booking purposes only.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001388

As to, that's the GOCC.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001389

So, SARO din yan.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001390

Pareho rin.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001391

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001392

Pareho rin ang sistema.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001393

Pero, yun nga,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001394

pipirmahan pa rin, di ba?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001395

That is correct, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001396

So, we are to assume

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001397

that this so-called

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001398

excess cited by COA

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001399

must be either of these two

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001400

trigger occasions.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001401

Is that correct?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001402

That is the position of the DBM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001403

as submitted to our auditor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001404

Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001405

That being the case,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001406

kung maari,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001407

mag-submit na lang kayo

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001408

ng release-by-release reconciliation

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001409

para makita natin yung funding source

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001410

kung talaga bang certification

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001411

or SARO yung required,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001412

sino yung approving authority,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001413

sino yung recipient agency,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001414

sino-sino ang pumirma,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001415

at yung purpose.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001416

Kasi, nagiging magulo yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001417

unprogrammed.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001418

Naririnig natin yung mga unprogrammed

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001419

na dapat extra money

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001420

ng Pilipinas.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001421

E, nauuna pa ilabas.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001422

E, wala namang ka-extra-extra.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001423

Whatsoever.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001424

Kulang pa nga.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001425

Lagi.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001426

It's been introduced to prevent

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001427

releases of the so-called

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001428

unsupported releases

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001429

from the programmed allocations.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001430

Kasi sinasabi mo,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001431

there are no releases

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001432

that are unsupported

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001433

except on two occasions.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001434

Have you provided guidelines?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001435

Basin na nangyayari ito dati,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001436

laganap ito eh.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001437

Certainly, Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001438

Well, the first one,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001439

we will make sure that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001440

the reconciliation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001441

will reach the office

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001442

of the good senator

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001443

to establish that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001444

actual releases

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001445

that is triggered

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001446

by excess revenue

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001447

did not exceed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001448

what was actually certified

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001449

by both the BTR

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001450

and the Bureau of Customs.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001451

As to reforms

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001452

that we are implementing,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001453

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001454

one is that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001455

we don't have releases

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001456

as of now

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001457

from the 2026 UA

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001458

that is triggered

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001459

by excess revenues.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001460

Ang ating pong tanging release

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001461

a charge against

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001462

the unprogrammed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001463

appropriations for 2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001464

are all loan proceeds

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001465

for foreign-assisted projects.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001466

But even in that case,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001467

we would like listing as well.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001468

Definitely, we will provide,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001469

Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001470

Because that's not zero.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001471

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001472

O, lalabas na naman yan

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001473

sa bandang huli,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001474

sa suma total,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001475

lalabas din,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001476

na hindi naman zero

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001477

yung narilisaan program.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001478

That is still within,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001479

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001480

the amount,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001481

the ceiling approved

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001482

by the GAA

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001483

for the unprogrammed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001484

appropriations.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001485

What we mentioned for

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001486

zero-release

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001487

unprogrammed,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001488

ano pa yung guardrails

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001489

na ginawa ninyo?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001490

Ano ba yung safeguards?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001491

Kasi,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001492

laganap nun eh,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001493

magbibigay ka ng 5%,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001494

eh,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001495

i-release yung unprogrammed.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001496

Alam naman

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001497

ng lahat ng legislator yan.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001498

Talagang kalat-nakalat

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001499

yung mga balita dyan.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001500

Actually, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001501

Mr. Chair,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001502

we are in a position

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001503

where we are

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001504

looking at how agencies

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001505

utilize both their

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001506

25 and 2026 budget.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001507

So, ito po talaga yung

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001508

mas pinagtuuna natin

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001509

ng pansin.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001510

Talagang we

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001511

reach out,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001512

agencies call their attention

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001513

at masiguro na

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001514

they only utilize first

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001515

what was allocated

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001516

in the GAA

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001517

before they can even

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001518

before they can even

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001519

request for any augmentation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001520

not only from unprogrammed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001521

but even from other sources.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001522

It is also the reason,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001523

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001524

why the DBM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001525

has supported

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001526

the limit the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001527

Well, the principal change,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001528

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001529

is that we limited

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001530

the component

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001531

of the UA

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001532

even for 2027.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001533

You will no longer find the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001557

But,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001558

before 120.11 billion

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001559

releases for that purpose

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001560

as of the end of August,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001561

can you reconcile

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001562

the 22.805 billion difference?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001563

There's a difference eh.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001564

Kahit sabihin mo,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001565

nasaro lang ang kailangan

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001566

at hindi certification

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001567

ang kailangan dun sa

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001568

Foreign Assisted.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001569

Ang laki pa rin ng excess.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001570

Labis pa rin ang

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001571

rinilis ninyo

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001572

dun sa tinakda

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001573

na amount

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001574

na 97.3 billion lang.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001575

Paano nangyari yun?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001576

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001577

Mr. Chair,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001578

that is a result

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001579

of the implementation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001580

of one of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001581

special provisions

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001582

that is also under

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001583

the unprogrammed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001584

appropriation.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001585

The special provision

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001586

authorized

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001587

the Department of Budget

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001588

and Management

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001589

to effect modifications

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001590

from one purpose

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001591

to another

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001592

if there is

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001593

a deficiency

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001594

in that particular purpose.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001595

We note that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001596

it's under

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001597

SP number 5

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001598

of the special provision

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001599

for unprogrammed appropriation.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001600

Ang implementation po nito,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001601

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001602

Mr. Chair,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001603

dahil nga po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001604

nabawasan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001605

yung loan proceeds

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001606

component

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001607

ng ilan po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001608

sa mga foreign assisted

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001609

projects

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001610

for 2024

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001611

and 2025

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001612

within the program,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001613

ito po yung

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001614

ating isang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001615

nagamit

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001616

para po nan po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001617

yung naging

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001618

pagkukulungan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001619

na iyon.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001620

So,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001621

what triggered that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001622

is the authority

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001623

given to the DBM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001624

under the special provision

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001625

to effect modification

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001626

from one purpose

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001627

to another

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001628

but still within

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001629

the overall ceiling

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001630

po of the unprogrammed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001631

appropriation.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001632

Nako,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001633

siguraduhin natin

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001634

mga kahiya talaga yan.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001635

Dati,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001636

hindi natin

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001637

binabayaran

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001638

yung counterpart natin.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001639

Ngayon,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001640

maging issue tayo

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001641

ng cheque

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001642

na tatalbog naman

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001643

kasi in excess.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001644

Eh,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001645

hindi naman yata

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001646

maganda yan.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001647

Masisira

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001648

ng tuluyan

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001649

ng ating

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001650

reputasyon.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001651

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001652

Mr. Chair,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001653

we would like to assure

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001654

the good senator

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001655

and the committee

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001656

na wala pong tatalbog

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001657

na cheque

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001658

for foreign assistance

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001659

projects.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001660

Dahil ito po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001661

ay under

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001662

a direct

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001663

financing scheme.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001664

Direkta pong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001665

binabayaran

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001666

ng ating mga

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001667

development funders,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001668

development institutions,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001669

ang ating pong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001670

mga contractors.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001671

So,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001672

the releases

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001673

were charged

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001674

against continuing

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001675

appropriations

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001676

another

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001677

unprogrammed

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001678

or another

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001679

authority.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001680

Sa man galing

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001681

yung pera?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001682

Ayun po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001683

ay galing po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001684

within the same

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001685

unprogrammed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001686

appropriations,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001687

Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001688

There was just

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001689

a modification

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001690

from one purpose

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001691

to another.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001692

Yung sinasabi mo

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001693

na hinahayaan

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001694

ng special provision.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001695

It was authorized

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001696

under the special provision.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001697

Iba dapat

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001698

ingat-ingatan yan.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001699

Baka kinakailangan

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001700

amyandahan na yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001701

special provision.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001702

Masyado yata

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001703

malawak.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001704

In fact,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001705

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001706

in the proposed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001707

2027 net,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001708

we identified

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001709

the corresponding

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001710

appropriations

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001711

and the release

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001712

authority.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001713

Kung talaga bang

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001714

caps lahat yan.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001715

Can BBM

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001716

also

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001717

consequently

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001718

provide yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001719

utilization rate

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001720

for each

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001721

unprogrammed

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001722

purpose

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001723

rather than

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001724

just giving us

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001725

the comprehensive

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001726

certification

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001727

79.6

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001728

release

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001729

against total

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001730

unprogrammed?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001731

Kasi hindi namin

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001732

alam kung alin ba

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001733

talaga yun.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001734

Talaga bang

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001735

caps yan?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001736

Talaga bang gil? Alin ba talaga yan? Totoo ba yan? Kaya nagkakaduda to rin yung tao. Wala namang kalimunadan.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001737

Your Honor, Mr. Chair, we will furnish the Senator the detailed utilization of the N-Program.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001738

Kababawan lang ito. Itatanong ko lang kasi binakita mo dito sa accomplishment ng first semester.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001739

Meron lang kayong continuing appropriation of 598.28 million.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001740

I assume this is from 2025. This continues to be available for obligation up to the end of the year.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001741

Bakit 30.79% lang na-obligate?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001742

184 million.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001743

184 million pa lang ang nga na-o-obligate.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001744

What's the obligation figure that you have that's best updated?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001745

Your Honor, we confirmed the figure 598.28 under continuing appropriations.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001746

Although we would like to submit na most of these...

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001747

Pero yung second to the last column, kayo rin nagbigay. 30.77 lang ang obligation.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001748

Ba't hindi ninyo ginagastos?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001749

That is correct, Your Honor. We reviewed the projects that are covered by these...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001750

Continuing appropriations. In fact, yung iba po dito ay na-offer na doon po sa savings under the National Budget Circular 602 and 603.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001751

So, kailangan lang po itong ma-update kasi yung mga negative saros po were issued after the cut-off of the reporting, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001752

Nanghihinayang lang kami. Sayang yung pondo.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001753

I-re-revert ba ito to Treasury? Nasa fourth quarter na tayo.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001754

Ano bang programs and projects funded by the Treasury?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001755

By this continuing approach. At bakit hindi magastos?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001756

Your Honor, as mentioned, kami rin po nanghihinayang.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001757

That's why, yun nga po, nagaya po nang nabanggit ko, in-offer po namin ito as savings para makatulong po doon sa ating uplift intervention.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001758

That is also the same reason why, Your Honor, the DBM's budget is lower in 2027.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001759

Dahil alam po namin na yung 2026 po namin, meron pa kaming magiging continuing.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001760

So we are really looking at re-priority.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001761

Ano ba talaga ito? Can you give us an idea? Kagilagilalas yung hindi nagagastos yung pera, naging bato pa.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001762

Meron po tayo, Your Honor, na nakitang ini-implement natin na several projects under the Public Financial Management Program of the DBM.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001763

At ito po ay kabilang sa ating mga nire-review. Na bakit nga po ba hindi ito ma-implement?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001764

Sa tinirin ninyo ang recipient nito.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001765

Precisely, Your Honor. So we're also doing internal review and housekeeping in terms of our own projects, Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001766

We are checking whether kailangan po ba talaga itong mga projects na ito na maipagpatuloy.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001767

Hindi. Umabot na tayo ng halos November. Hindi pa nagagastos.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001768

Again, Your Honor, that is precisely the reason behind us approving a lower budget for DBM for 2027.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001769

Pagkatapos sa with the Supreme Court decision, baka kasama na ito.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001770

Talagang lalahatin ang unreleased portions.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001771

Isa po yun sa bahagi ng clarification na paglilino po na ating hihingin po patungkol sa desisyon, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001772

Okay. Marami na akong tanong. Maraming salamat. Magsusunod na round na lang.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001773

Thank you, Sector Marcos, our Senate President. You may already ask your questions.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001774

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001775

Mr. Chairman, I think ang pinaka...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001776

...news of the day ngayon, yung Supreme Court ruling.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001777

And in fact, the Supreme Court ruling gave some directions and clarity, pero marami rin mga questions pagdating sa crafting of the budget.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001778

I'll ask the questions later on. Pero I want to ask the Secretary, with this Supreme Court ruling on the unprogrammed funds,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001779

and narinig ko kanina sa nag-umpisa na kayo and your team to go through the Supreme Court ruling.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001780

Makapal siya. I also went through it or tried to go through it this morning.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001781

But what can you now... We're now in the thick of the budget process.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001782

In fact, sabi nga ng ating chairman, patapos na kami and we're going to enter into consolidation of the different budgets...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001783

...of different agencies. And then from there, magpa-plenary debates na kami.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001784

So what are the recommendations of the DBM in relation to the Supreme Court ruling so that we can already fine-tune, we can already adjust, we can already watch out for kung merong mga kailangan kaming tignan mabuti.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001785

Okay.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001786

Ang dapat naming i-adjust dito sa 2027 budget process.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001787

Thank you, Mr. Chair, Mr. Senate President.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001788

There are things that are indeed very clear in the decision.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001789

And we are also happy to report that for one, when the Supreme Court ruled on the unconstitutionality of the SAGIP, we don't have SAGIP anymore even in the 2027 unprogrammed appropriations.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001790

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001791

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001792

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001793

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001794

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001795

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001796

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001797

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001798

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001799

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001800

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001801

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001802

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001803

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001804

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001805

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001806

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001807

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001808

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001809

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001810

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001811

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001812

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001813

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001814

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001815

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001816

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001817

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001818

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001819

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001820

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001821

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001822

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001823

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001824

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001825

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001826

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001827

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001828

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001829

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001830

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001831

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001832

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001833

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001834

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001835

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001836

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001837

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001838

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001839

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001840

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001841

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001842

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001843

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001844

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001845

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001846

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001847

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001848

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001849

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001850

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001851

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001852

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001853

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001854

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001855

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001856

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001857

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001858

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001859

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001860

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001861

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001862

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001863

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001864

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001865

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001866

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001867

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001868

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001869

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001870

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001871

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001872

Because the amount we arrived at for that particular entry, meron naman pong pinanggalingan ng mga pipeline projects. So we stand ready to help Congress in complying with that guardrail by giving the breakdown kung paano po ba namin nakuha yung support to foreign assisted projects.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001873

We have also, as we have reported, listed down fewer items sa ating UA for 2027. Yun nga lang po, Mr. Chair, Mr. Senate President, there are just some items which I think is also crucial in the budget legislation phase, particularly the declaration on the unconstitutionality of one of the triggers for unprogrammed appropriations.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001874

But again, we reserve, as earlier pronounced, how this can be best interpreted and applied moving forward. But one thing we can assure is the Executive is not releasing anything as of now triggered by Sections 1A and 1B as covered by the Supreme Court decision.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001875

We also welcome if Congress, as mentioned by the Supreme Court decision, will include more details or suggestions.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001876

Or safeguards or requirements that will guide the Executive in further executing the unprogrammed appropriations. Maybe more parameters if necessary para po makumply natin yung four guardrails as stated by the Supreme Court.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001877

Because we note that there was also a provision in the decision, a reference about approving authority. So we submit to the wisdom of Congress and the Senate as well in further defining these conditions, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001878

So basically, ang sinasabi ng Supreme Court is hindi pwedeng lumampas ang Kongreso doon sa NEP proposal ng Presidente for programmed and unprogrammed.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001879

I think that's bottom line. That is one of the most important direction. And of course, nakasulat rin doon yung mga transparency.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001880

Dapat matrack mabuti.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001881

We also engage civil society movements in the budget, which we have done in the 2026 budget. In fact, lahat yan ay uploaded sa website. And we also engage civil society organizations.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001882

And patuloy namin sini-engage. In fact, kahapon sa hearing ni Sen. Pangilina, nandun yung civil society organizations sharing their analysis.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001883

So it's not only us analyzing, but we also engage third-party analysis through the civil society.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001884

So bottom line, hindi pwedeng lumampas ang Kongreso sa proposal ng Presidente, both unprogrammed and programmed. Bottom line.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001885

That is how we view the decision, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001886

But what is clear right now, even unprogrammed.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001887

Kasama po, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001888

Even unprogrammed. Kasi that was the debate.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001889

Unprogrammed, hindi nga lumalampas. Pero yung unprogrammed, sobrang-sobrang na lumalampas.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001890

For example, in 2024, ang NEP 281, unprogrammed to, 281, biglang naging 731 yung final sa unprogrammed.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001891

In 2025, ganun rin, 158 billion yung NEP. Pagdating sa final is 363.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001892

So it's only itong 2026 na correct. Ang proposal is 249.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001893

Ang final is 150. So bumaba sa proposal ng Presidente.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001894

I'll go to some specifics because this is important in the way we will craft the budget.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001895

Doon sa decision ng Supreme Court, pinagbawal niya o ginawa niyang unconstitutional yung special provision 1A and 1B.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001896

Ang iniwan lang.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001897

So ang ibig sabihin niyan, dito sa unprogrammed na gagawin for 2027, FAPS lang ang matitira.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001898

Tama? Actually, nawala na yung essence of new revenue and new taxes. Nawala na yun.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001899

Ang sinasabi, the way we understand it, in fact, I'm consulting our LBRMO, the way we understand it, foreign-assisted projects na lang ang matitira.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001900

So, kanina.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001901

Sa presentation ninyo, meron pang restoration ng PDIC, merong conversion of national government agencies sa unprogrammed. Lahat yung mawawala na.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001902

Mr. Chair, Your Honor, the way we understood and the way we read, again, subject to the alignment later on with the Office of the Solicitor General,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001903

meron pa naman pong possibility for that but ang sabi po sa decision, the reference is dapat yung excess is from the totality of the revenue.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001904

What was particularly covered by the decision was the reference in any one, excess in any one item po. Yun po yung reference to Section 1A.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001905

So, the initial view, Your Honor, is pwede pa namang kung may excess but the excess is to be determined from the total target.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001906

Yun po yung initial reading po ng team doon sa decision, subject nga po doon sa mapag-uusapan on the items to be clarified or to be respected.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001907

But yung 1B is the totality. Diba, 1B is new revenue collection arising from taxes or non-tax.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001908

1B is new, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001909

Oo.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001910

New over and above the PSF levels.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001911

Yes. Oo. So, etatlo lang naman yung sa special provision, diba?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001912

That is correct. There are only three triggers.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001913

Three triggers lang. Kung tinanggal mo yung dalawa, matitira yung foreign assistant.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001914

In other words, the...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001915

The unprogrammed is only designed for foreign assistant.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001916

Now, the point I'm trying to make is we don't want to approve a budget here that is unconstitutional.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001917

That's our...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001918

Although our legal teams here are also studying it, but we're also seeking guidance from DBM because we don't want to pass a version wherein unconstitutional siya.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001919

For sure, tatanggalin na namin yung 1A and 1B.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001920

Your Honor, as for the...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001921

As a clarification, probably, yun nga po ang discussion ng team is the excess can still be triggered.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001922

Probably, pwedeng i-correct yung base. That's an initial reading.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001923

So, mag-i-introduce ulit ng isa pang special provision.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001924

Kasi those are the triggers. Without those triggers, you cannot trigger the unprogrammed.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001925

The source of the unprogrammed is new revenue.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001926

That is correct, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001927

Or excess revenue.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001928

Excess revenue in any one...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001929

Tax or non-tax.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001930

That is correct, Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001931

We commit to work with the Senate and Congress to fine-tune the special provision for unprogrammed to make sure we will fully subscribe and follow the Supreme Court decision.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001932

That's why kanina sabi ko may clarity, mayroon rin mga questions na lumabas doon sa decisions that we want to also work with the DBM on how to do that.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001933

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001934

If SP will allow us.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001935

Yes.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001936

We keep talking about the unconstitutionality of 2024 and 2025 GAA, but there's also mention of 2026 nga.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001937

So, is your understanding that 2026 was also struck down as unconstitutional or merely the special provisions 1A, 1B under said chapter?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001938

Your Honor, Mr. Chair, unlike 2024 and 2025, yung 2026 po wala pong specific mention that the entire GAA was declared unconstitutional.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001939

They didn't say it was unconstitutional.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001940

Those two were shut down.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001941

Only limited to section 1A and 1B of the UA, Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-001942

Of the UA.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001943

Okay.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001944

That's your understanding.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001945

Yes.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-001946

Okay.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001947

So, we'll, again, internally we're working.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001948

I'm also consulting our chairman about that because we don't want to come up with a committee report na yung...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001979

may mga unconstitutional

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-001980

items.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001981

If I may,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001982

with the indulgence

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001983

of our said President,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001984

anong mga items

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001985

do you think

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001986

sa special provision

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001987

sa Secretary

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001988

ng unprogrammed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001989

approvations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001990

that we need to amend

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001991

or

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001992

make adjustments

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001993

so that we will

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001994

prevent

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001995

itong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001996

any constitutional

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001997

infirmity

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001998

as we craft

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001999

the 2027

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002000

JA.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002001

Siyempre,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002002

because of the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002003

in light of the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002004

Supreme Court ruling

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002005

para hindi kami

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002006

magkamali

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002007

dito sa ginagawa natin.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002008

What do we need

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002009

to amend or adjust?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002010

As it stands right now,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002011

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002012

of course,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002013

pending the necessary

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002014

appeal and clarification,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002015

what

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002016

seems to be affected

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002017

by the initial decision

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002018

is really

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002019

Section 1A

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002020

and 1B

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002021

of the special provision.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002022

So ito po yung

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002023

meron talagang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002024

express declaration

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002025

ang court

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002026

on unconstitutionality.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002027

So,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002028

we have some

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002029

initial

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002030

reviews

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002031

and we'd be happy to share

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002032

that with the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002033

committee as well

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002034

because there are also

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002035

previous references

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002036

or previous

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002037

iterations of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002038

special provision

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002039

that we can

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002040

revisit

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002041

and check

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002042

kung ito po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002043

ay papasok po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002044

doon sa

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002045

interpretation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002046

na ibinigay po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002047

ng Supreme Court

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002048

on Section 1A

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002049

and B.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002050

Would be glad to work

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002051

with the committee

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002052

and the senators

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002053

on complying

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002054

with this particular

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002055

item.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002056

Thank you.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002057

Because in the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002058

2026 when our

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002059

Senate President

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002060

was a finance chair,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002061

I think wala naman

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002062

he was so careful

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002063

about this.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002064

And we want to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002065

continue na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002066

we want to make sure

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002067

that we do not

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002068

have any more

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002069

infirmities or questions

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002070

anymore.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002071

Thank you.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002072

We'll work together

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002073

with the DBM

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002074

and I'll consult

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002075

our chairman

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002076

about that also.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002077

Kasi the whole point

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002078

of the UN program

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002079

is excess and new.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002080

Diba?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002081

Para hindi ka

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002082

nababalik sa Kongreso

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002083

magsusupplemental budget

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002084

or special budget

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002085

request,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002086

automatic na

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002087

ina-appropriate

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002088

na yun

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002089

through the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002090

UN program.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002091

But if you remove that,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002092

then,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002093

an effect of that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002094

is merong

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002095

babalik kayo sa

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002096

Kongreso

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002097

for

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002098

supplemental budget.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002099

That is one

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002100

of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002101

possible

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002102

consequence,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002103

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002104

based on that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002105

iteration.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002106

But on the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002107

invalidity

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002108

of Section 1A

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002109

and B lang din po,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002110

if I may add,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002111

Mr. Senate President,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002112

Mr. Chair,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002113

Your Honors,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002114

the DBM has not

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002115

released anything

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002116

charged from 1A

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002117

and 1B

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002118

from the 2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002119

naman po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002120

as of now.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002121

So, wala pa po tayo.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002122

So far, wala pa.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002123

So far, wala po tayong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002124

charge against

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002125

1A and 1B

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002126

for 2026.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002127

Tanging FAPS pa lang po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002128

ang releases natin

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002129

from 2026 UA.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002130

Sige.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002131

We'll work on that.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002132

Kami rin,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002133

we're doing some research.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002134

Kasi nga,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002135

nabanggit ko nga

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002136

doon sa

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002137

UN program,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002138

although bumaba siya

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002139

to 111 billion,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002140

meron doon

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002141

PDIC,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002142

I would assume

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002143

the PDIC

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002144

will be

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002145

taken from

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002146

1A and 1B

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002147

from excess

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002148

or new.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002149

So, ang may iwan na lang

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002150

dyan,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002151

si foreign-assisted

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002152

na 42 billion.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002153

The other

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002154

that was struck down,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002155

yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002156

SAGIP.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002157

In fact,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002158

in 2026,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002159

just to be

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002160

transparent,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002161

ang Senate

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002162

nagtanggal nung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002163

SAGIP.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002164

We removed that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002165

kasi nga yan

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002166

naging source

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002167

ng flood control

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002168

issue.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002169

So,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002170

and

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002171

these are

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002172

the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002173

lump sums

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002174

that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002175

became the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002176

source for

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002177

of

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002178

of

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002179

flood control,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002180

other infrastructure

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002181

projects na

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002182

hindi na

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002183

namamonitor

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002184

ng Kongreso

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002185

kasi hindi siya

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002186

nakalign item.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002187

Alam na lang

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002188

namin yan

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002189

pag

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002190

in-implement na.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002191

So, we removed

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002192

that here

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002193

in the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002194

Senate.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002195

Kaya bumaba

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002196

yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002197

UN program

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002198

from 249

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002199

in the NEP

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002200

to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002201

150

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002202

in the GAA.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002203

So,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002204

that's one of

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002205

the things

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002206

na

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002207

we want

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002208

to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002209

get clarity

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002210

on.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002211

There's also

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002212

another item

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002213

in

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002214

the Supreme Court

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002215

and I want to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002216

again seek

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002217

guidance

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002218

from

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002219

from

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002220

the DBM.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002221

Pinadala ko rin

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002222

ito sa

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002223

kasi bago lang

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002224

yung decision.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002225

So, lahat

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002226

nag-aaral pa.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002227

But I want to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002228

get your

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002229

guidance.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002230

Sinabi rin

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002231

kasi dito sa

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002232

Supreme Court

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002233

decision

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002234

yun

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002235

yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002236

yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002237

yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002238

yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002239

section

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002240

4

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002241

section

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002242

24

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002243

of the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002244

admin

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002245

code.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002246

Yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002247

prohibition

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002248

against

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002249

increase

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002250

of

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002251

appropriation

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002252

that includes

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002253

any project

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002254

and any

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002255

program.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002256

So,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002257

masyado

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002258

naman

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002259

I think

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002260

this is

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002261

to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002262

again

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002263

kung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002264

ma-apply

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002265

natin

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002266

wala

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002267

nang gagawin

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002268

yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002269

kongreso

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002270

kundi

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002271

magbawas.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002272

So,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002273

and

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002274

the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002275

the power

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002276

of the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002277

purse is

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002278

also looking

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002279

at each

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002280

program,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002281

each

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002282

project

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002283

to see

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002284

whether

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002285

those

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002286

programs

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002287

and projects

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002288

are

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002289

indeed

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002290

needed

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002291

by our

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002292

constituents

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002293

and the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002294

power

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002295

to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002296

shift

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002297

some

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002298

amount

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002299

so that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002300

the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002301

national

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002302

expense

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002303

the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002304

general

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002305

appropriations

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002306

act

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002307

will be

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002308

efficient

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002309

in terms

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002310

of

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002311

programs

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002312

and

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002313

projects.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002314

So,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002315

maybe get

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002316

your

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002317

if you

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002318

have already

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002319

looked at

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002320

this,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002321

maybe get

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002322

your

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002323

comment

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002324

on that,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002325

Secretary?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002326

Actually,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002327

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002328

that's the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002329

same provision

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002330

that also

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002331

invited

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002332

our

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002333

utmost

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002334

attention

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002335

because

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002336

this

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002337

will have

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002338

an

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002339

implication

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002340

on

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002341

the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002342

budget

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002343

cycle.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002344

So,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002345

if this

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002346

was highlighted

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002347

by the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002348

Supreme

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002349

Court,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002350

in fact,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002351

it was

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002352

listed as

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002353

among the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002354

items that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002355

we will

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002356

be discussing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002357

with the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002358

Office of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002359

the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002360

Solicitor

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002361

General

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002362

moving

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002363

forward.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002364

Yeah,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002365

we also

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002366

plan to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002367

since

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002368

the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002369

Office of

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002370

the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002371

Solicitor

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002372

General

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002373

is also

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002374

representing

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002375

us,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002376

or the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002377

Senate,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002378

we plan

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002379

to also

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002380

seek

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002381

clarity

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002382

from

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002383

the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002384

Solgen

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002385

on this

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002386

matter.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002387

in your

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002388

interpretation,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002389

pwede pa

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002390

namin

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002391

pasan?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002392

Again,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002393

kasi that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002394

will

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002395

impact

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002396

the way

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002397

we will

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002398

craft

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002399

the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002400

budget.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002401

I don't know

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002402

if there's

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002403

any

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002404

other

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002405

questions.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002406

Our

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002407

legal team

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002408

actually

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002409

reminded us

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002410

that there

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002411

was an

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002412

earlier case

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002413

which is

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002414

Sarmiento

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002415

versus

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002416

Treasurer

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002417

of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002418

Philippines

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002419

wherein the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002420

court

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002421

made

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002422

reference

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002423

na yun

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002424

pong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002425

prohibition

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002426

sa pagtaas

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002427

was the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002428

ceiling,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002429

was the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002430

total

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002431

of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002432

expenditure

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002433

program.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002434

Kaya po,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002435

that's the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002436

reason why

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002437

it was listed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002438

among the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002439

items for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002440

clarification

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002441

because we

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002442

are reading

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002443

the present

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002444

decision

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002445

vis-a-vis

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002446

the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002447

pronouncement

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002448

of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002449

court

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002450

in Sarmiento

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002451

versus

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002452

Treasurer.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002453

So in

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002454

other words,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002455

based on

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002456

your

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002457

analysis,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002458

Congress

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002459

cannot go

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002460

beyond

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002461

the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002462

total

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002463

of

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002464

what was

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002465

proposed

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002466

by the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002467

President

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002468

for program

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002469

and unprogrammed

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002470

but for

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002471

each

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002472

project

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002473

and

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002474

the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002475

each

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002476

project

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002477

and program

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002478

we can

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002479

we can

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002480

still

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002481

increase.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002482

That has

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002483

been the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002484

practice

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002485

in the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002486

budget cycle

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002487

you're on.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002488

Yes,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002489

yes,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002490

okay.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002491

Sige.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002492

Medyo nakita ko rin

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002493

na dito sa

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002494

Supreme Court

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002495

decision but

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002496

the application

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002497

of that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002498

portion was

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002499

in the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002500

unprogrammed

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002501

not in the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002502

entire budget

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002503

but

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002504

pero pag binasa mo

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002505

yung admin

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002506

code,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002507

it can be

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002508

interpreted for

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002509

the entire

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002510

budget.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002511

So,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002512

but again,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002513

our legal

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002514

teams are

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002515

also studying

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002516

that and

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002517

we'll

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002518

also reach

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002519

out to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002520

the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002521

Solgen

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002522

for further

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002523

clarification.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002524

But let's

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002525

work together

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002526

on this

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002527

kasi again,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002528

the direction

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002529

of the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002530

Senate is

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002531

to comply

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002532

with the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002533

Supreme Court

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002534

ruling to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002535

make sure

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002536

that the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002537

budget we

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002538

will produce

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002539

will be

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002540

compliant

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002541

and

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002542

constitutional.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002543

We will

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002544

also adjust

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002545

as we

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002546

go along

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002547

on the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002548

some of

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002549

the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002550

nuances

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002551

in the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002552

Supreme

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002553

Court

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002554

ruling.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002555

But largely,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002556

in the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002557

2026

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002558

budget,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002559

hindi naman

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002560

na-struck

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002561

down yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002562

entire budget,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002563

hindi naman

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002564

na-struck

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002565

down yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002566

unprogrammed

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002567

appropriations,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002568

yung dalawang

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002569

special

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002570

provision

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002571

lang

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002572

ang na-strike

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002573

down,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002574

which needs

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002575

clarity rin

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002576

because

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002577

yung 1A,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002578

1B

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002579

is the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002580

sole reason

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002581

why

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002582

unprogrammed

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002583

exists.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002584

Kaya may

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002585

unprogrammed,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002586

because of

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002587

excess

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002588

and new.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002589

Pag tinanggal mo

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002590

yun,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002591

then there's

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002592

no more

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002593

use for

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002594

unprogrammed.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002595

For FAPs,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002596

your honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002597

For FAPs,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002598

of course,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002599

for FAPs.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002600

Alright.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002601

I'll go to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002602

some items

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002603

in the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002604

some items

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002605

in the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002606

in the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002607

ALGU.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002608

I'll go to the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002609

I'll look

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002610

in your slide.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002611

Ito pala.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002612

In the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002613

itong local

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002614

government support

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002615

fund.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002616

Last year,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002617

it was increased

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002618

to,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002619

from the year

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002620

before,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002621

it was 23 billion,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002622

then we increased

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002623

it to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002624

70,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002625

57,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002626

and then

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002627

to 58 billion

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002628

this year.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002629

I heard

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002630

Senator Aimee

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002631

already made

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002632

some

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002633

through some

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002634

questions and

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002635

made some

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002636

analysis on

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002637

this.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002638

The whole

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002639

point of this

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002640

is to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002641

empower the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002642

local governments

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002643

and also

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002644

we also

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002645

included in

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002646

this special

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002647

provision,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002648

some good

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002649

governance

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002650

provision,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002651

so that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002652

hindi lang

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002653

bigay ng

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002654

bigay,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002655

but it's

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002656

an incentive

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002657

for good

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002658

governance.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002659

So,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002660

but then again,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002661

sabi nga ng ating

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002662

chairman,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002663

we don't want

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002664

this to be

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002665

viewed as

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002666

a pork

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002667

barrel or

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002668

some

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002669

account that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002670

will be

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002671

given to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002672

arbitrarily.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002673

So,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002674

may we ask

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002675

the Secretary,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002676

ano ba yung mga

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002677

transparency efforts

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002678

have you

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002679

undertaken

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002680

in order to

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002681

make the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002682

LGSF

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002683

transparent,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002684

rational,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002685

merit-based?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002686

May we get

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002687

some of the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002688

efforts that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002689

you have

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002690

initiated

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002691

so that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002692

maging,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002693

maging,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002694

ano naman to,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002695

maging

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002696

a productive

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002697

effort

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002698

for good

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002699

governance?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002700

Mr.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002701

Senate President,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002702

Mr.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002703

Chair,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002704

actually,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002705

consistent with

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002706

the special

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002707

provision,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002708

the DBM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002709

made sure

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002710

that provinces,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002711

cities,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002712

and municipalities

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002713

who will be

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002714

availing of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002715

the FALGU

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002716

have undergone

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002717

the respective

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002718

public financial

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002719

management

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002720

assessment,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002721

including

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002722

the requirement

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002723

of accomplishing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002724

the respective

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002725

requirements

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002726

of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002727

PFM

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002728

assessment

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002729

report

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002730

and PFM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002731

improvement

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002732

program

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002733

to make sure

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002734

that they're

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002735

following the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002736

basic tenets

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002737

of good

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002738

financial

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002739

housekeeping

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002740

before they

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002741

can avail

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002742

of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002743

FALGU.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002744

In fact,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002745

we have

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002746

encountered,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002747

even in the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002748

RISE program,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002749

we can say

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002750

that there are

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002751

LGUs who

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002752

have belatedly

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002753

released their

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002754

allocation for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002755

the Bawat Bayan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002756

Makikinabang RISE

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002757

program pending

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002758

compliance

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002759

of these

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002760

good financial

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002761

housekeeping

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002762

requirements.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002763

So,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002764

itong mga LGUs,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002765

hindi sila makaka-avail

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002766

kung wala sila

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002767

nitong good

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002768

financial housekeeping

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002769

seal.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002770

Particularly,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002771

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002772

I'm referring to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002773

the PFM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002774

assessment report

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002775

and improvement

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002776

program,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002777

improvement plan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002778

managed by

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002779

the DBM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002780

regional offices.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002781

This is different

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002782

from the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002783

seal,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002784

probably,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002785

Your Honor,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002786

you're referring to.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002787

To the DILG.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002788

Yes.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002789

Pero,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002790

ang direction is the same,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002791

diba?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002792

Good financial,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002793

good housekeeping,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002794

good financial housekeeping.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002795

So,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002796

may tanong yata si Amy?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002797

Anong basis

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002798

ng good financial

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002799

housekeeping

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002800

kung hindi yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002801

DILG awards?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002802

Mr. Chair,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002803

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002804

ito pong PFM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002805

assessment report

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002806

is a scorecard

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002807

developed by

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002808

DBM.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002809

Sorry,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002810

what is PFM?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002811

PFM?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002812

Public Financial Management

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002813

Assessment Tool.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002814

Kino yun?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002815

This is a tool

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002816

developed by DBM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002817

and being rolled out

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002818

po sa LGUs

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002819

following.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002820

DBM will assess?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002821

There is a tool,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002822

yes,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002823

being rolled out

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002824

to LGUs

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002825

and the regional

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002826

offices are

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002827

monitoring po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002828

yung pag-assess

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002829

ng LGUs

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002830

based on the tool.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002831

I'm just wondering

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002832

bakit may duplication

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002833

dun sa DILG?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002834

Sa bagay,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002835

iba naman ang purpose

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002836

pero,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002837

mas okay na

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002838

mag-sapaw-sapaw

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002839

na rin,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002840

di ba?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002841

Ang point ni

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002842

Sen. Ime,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002843

can we streamline it?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002844

Kasi si DILG

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002845

is also doing

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002846

good governance seals,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002847

seal of good governance,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002848

mayroong seal

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002849

of good housekeeping.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002850

Of course,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002851

we support this.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002852

Ang essence naman

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002853

nitong

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002854

special provision,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002855

is hindi arbitrary

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002856

nagbibigay sa LGU.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002857

Kailangan maganda muna

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002858

yung financial

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002859

housekeeping mo,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002860

maganda yung good

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002861

governance mo

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002862

before you are entitled.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002863

In fact,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002864

matagal namin pinagdebatihan

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002865

ito with the House

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002866

so that it will not

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002867

become just a tool

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002868

for politics.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002869

Certainly,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002870

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002871

we commit to working

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002872

with the Senate

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002873

and Congress

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002874

if there will be changes

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002875

in the governance

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002876

conditions,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002877

we would gladly

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002878

welcome and work

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002879

with the Chamber.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002880

But right now,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002881

yung mga LGUs,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002882

na eligible,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002883

should demonstrate

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002884

good financial housekeeping.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002885

The LGUs who received

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002886

FALGO for 2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002887

have complied

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002888

with the requirement,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002889

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002890

on the submission

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002891

of the PFM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002892

Assessment Report

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002893

and Improvement Plan.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002894

So, yung PFM,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002895

does that contain,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002896

what does that contain?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002897

The PFM assessment tool

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002898

follows the seven pillars

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002899

of,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002900

as enshrined

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002901

in the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002902

PESA,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002903

PESA framework

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002904

that we are

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002905

also implementing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002906

at the DBM.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002907

If I may just

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002908

...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002909

Quickly mention, Your Honor, the seven pillars.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002910

Budget reliability, transparency of public finances, management of assets and liabilities,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002911

fiscal strategy and budgeting, predictability and control in execution,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002912

accounting and reporting, and external scrutiny and audit.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002913

Okay, so lahat yun dapat compliance siya before siya maging eligible.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002914

Actually, dito, Your Honor, wala pa pong metric on compliance.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002915

It starts from an assessment benchmark.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002916

So, the assessment tool gives them where they are now,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002917

and the improvement plan is the direction where they want to go.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002918

Okay, okay.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002919

Sorry, sasabat na naman ako.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002920

Yes, go ahead. Center on me.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002921

Diba yun yung binanggit mo na hindi ninyo magastos-gastos kanina,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002922

yung continuing appropriations, yung public financial management,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002923

yung sinasabi mo, e diba, nagtataka ko, hindi nga magastos ito.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002924

Sabi mo, yung nandyan, yung PFM na sinasabi mo kanina na under review ng DBM,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002925

kasi hindi magastos-gastos, na nasa 30% lang kayong disbursed ngayon.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002926

Ay, hindi pala disbursed, obligated nga lang.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002927

Your Honor, PFM is a program.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002928

So, what we are reviewing is one component, one particular platform under PFM,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002929

and that is the Budget Treasury Management System, BTMS.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002930

So, ito po ay subsets, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002931

I understand, but it's just confusing that you're going to use a tool that, in fact, isn't working.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002932

So, these are different tools, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-002933

But you just said PFM. It's the same thing you said earlier.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002934

Because PFM, Your Honor, is a set of principles.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002935

So, BTMS is just one of the IT systems, the tools that we are using

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002936

so that we can gather information on a more real-time or more granular basis.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002937

But these are two different systems, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002938

Bottom line, Secretary, is...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002939

I know matagal na itong LGSF, but last year lang or this year lang ginawang a major program ng gobyerno.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002940

Let's continue to sharpen it.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002941

Again, we don't want it to be an arbitrary political tool.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002942

What we want is for good governance to flourish, for good financial housekeeping to flourish,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002943

and this is a good incentive for them.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002944

Certainly, Your Honor. We'd be happy to work with that.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002945

Let's continue to sharpen.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002946

Let's sharpen your tools so that the local government units may incentive sila na ayusin yung libro nila.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002947

Dapat halos wala or minimal yung observation ng COA.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002948

So, may mga ganyan. Yan ang talagang direction before when we included that in the special provision.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002949

Actually, may bet in also.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002950

I think, siguro, since nawala na yung PIDA for Countrywide Development Fund before,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002951

ang intention nun was to distribute yung resources evenly.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002952

But I think this one, if implemented properly,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002953

our President and myself being former mayors, this will really incentivize our LGUs to perform better.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002954

Tsaka maganda na sila. They will be rewarded for their performance.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002955

At the same time, we are also distributing the resources in the different parts.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002956

Yun lang. Kailangan lang natin. Ang ano natin dito is to make sure that this will not be viewed as a port.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002957

Kailangan. I think it will be the DBM who has that challenge to make sure that it will be evenly and fairly distributed.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002958

Tsaka yung criteria will be fairly judged. Thank you, Mr. President.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002959

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002960

I'll go to Secretary.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002961

Yung NTF-LCAC is also part of the funds that you manage.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002962

Andito ba sila, yung NTF-LCAC?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002963

Andito sila? Okay.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002964

Can you give us a...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002965

Kasi I remember when we were discussing itong NTF-LCAC, Director,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002966

every year nag-a-allocate tayo ng 8 billion.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002967

Tama?

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-002968

Sir, yung funding po ng NTF-LCAC, nag-iiba.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002969

But last year was 8 billion.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002970

Yes.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002971

This year was 8 billion.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002972

Yes.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002973

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002974

Good for 800 baranggays.

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-002975

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002976

Tama. So this year, ilan ang baranggays ang target natin?

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-002977

For 2027, Your Honor, it's around 1,948 baranggays.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002978

1,948.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002979

948. And that is actually the question, Secretary.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002980

Kasi theoretically, ginagamit natin itong pondo to clear baranggays.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002981

This is a baranggay clearing program.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002982

Actually, Your Honor, these are already cleared baranggays.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002983

Cleared baranggays.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002984

Before they can get the funds, they should have been certified as cleared by the NTF-LCAC.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002985

And the funds are supposed to maintain that status of being cleared.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002986

To provide opportunities for these cleared baranggays to have more economic activities,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002987

more access to government services.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002988

Okay.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002989

And then, ang iniisip ko, kasi ang rational ko, dapat over time,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002990

pag nakiklear yung baranggay, sige, that's what I mean,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002991

magdi-deliver tayo ng economic activity,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002992

bumababa rin yung number of baranggays na nangangailangan ng ganitong pondo

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002993

dahil may sarili na silang economic activity.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002994

Actually, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002995

Ang punto ko kasi, it's a program that is meant to clear and eventually,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002996

wala na tayong mga baranggays that will be infested with itong mga communist terrorist group po, diba?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-002997

So, that is the objective.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002998

Mr. Chair, Your Honor, based on the universe that we have from NTF-LCAC,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-002999

yung mga baranggay only received assistance once.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003000

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003001

So, hindi po sila incremental.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003002

So, we're looking at a universe of 9,588.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003003

Kaya nga,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003004

sa aming pag-uusap with NTF-LCAC,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003005

after the 2027 proposal,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003006

may natitira na lamang pong 2,001 baranggays na we hope to cover for the 2028.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003007

So, by that time, we have already covered the 9,588 cleared baranggays

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003008

because the design was, this is a one-off, one-time financial assistance to these cleared baranggays.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003009

Pero ganun ba yan? Tama ba itong baranggay?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003010

The way I understand it, the baranggay receives the same amount?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003011

So, one-time lang siya?

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003012

One-time lang siya.

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003013

One-time lang, sir.

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003014

Depende po dun sa budget na ibibigay for the year.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003015

Okay.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003016

So, ang natitira nilang is 2,000 baranggay, sabi nyo?

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003017

2,001 baranggays.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003018

So, kung every year nagbibigay ito ng 1,000 baranggay to 1,000 baranggays,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003019

in two years, wala na tayong bibigyan?

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003020

Wala na po, sir.

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003021

Based on our record, sir.

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003022

Those are the totality of...

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003023

baranggays that were cleared by the AIA.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003024

Okay. Okay.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003025

So, in two years, wala nang NTFK at ELCA?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003026

The projection, Your Honor, is if we will be able to complete the remaining 2,001 baranggay sa 2028,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003027

we should be finished by 2028.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003028

By 2028. So, complete na tayo. Tama ba yun?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003029

So, we will not see any more allocations to or appropriations to NTFK?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003030

That is also our understanding.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003031

We are understanding, Your Honor, because the universe has been set at 9,588 baranggays.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003032

And then every year, we give to 1,000 baranggays, diba?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003033

1,000 to 2,000, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003034

Okay. 1,000 to 2,000, depending on the budget. Okay.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003035

So, I'll hold you to that, Secretary, na by 2028, dapat wala nang...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003036

2028 should be the last.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003037

The last. So, 2029, wala na.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003038

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003039

Okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003040

We will be able to provide for the 9,500. That's the precedent, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003041

Yes, yes. And nakita ko naman, ganoon naman yung more or less, ganoon yung allocation na bibigay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003042

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003043

Oo.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003044

Tama ba, Director? Hindi kayo umiimik eh.

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003045

Actually, yun nga sabi ko nga, Your Honor, bumaba.

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003046

Kasi when we initially...

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003047

initially had that BDP, it's 20 million in 2021.

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003048

Naging 4 million, 2022.

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003049

2023, naging 6 million.

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003050

But right now, yun nga, as we discussed, yung 2027, I think 5 million yung na earmarked for this 1,948 baranggays.

NTF-ELCAC Director for Planning and Production Alexander S. Umpar

asr-003051

Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003052

Okay. So, let me just repeat.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003053

2029, lahat ng baranggays na na-clear na, na binibigyan natin ng 10 million or 20?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003054

Actually, it varies, Your Honor, depending on the budget.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003055

But on the average, per baranggay, 20?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003056

For 2027, we are at 5 million per baranggay.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003057

5 million per baranggay. We give them 5 million for socioeconomic development because na-clear na sila.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003058

And the socioeconomic development is meant to make the baranggay...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003059

independent, economically viable, and then we go to the next baranggay.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003060

So, by 2029, clear na tayo. Wala na tayong dapat pondohan.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003061

As far as the part of the LGSF is concerned, dapat wala na po.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003062

Then, other agency budgets na lang, kung meron pa pong kailangan pagtuunan.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003063

Kasi meron ba tayong OPAPRU, eh?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003064

Yes, Your Honor. Halimbawa po...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003065

In fact, yun ang aking proposal is to put the...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003066

LGSF-LCAP activities into OPAPRU para we only talk to one government agency dealing with peace and reconciliation.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003067

Kasi ang OPAPRU also dealing with the rebels' insurgency, eh? Insurgency.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003068

Meet, Your Honor, to the wisdom of the Senate if this item would be best lodged under OPAPRU, under the wisdom of the Senate.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003069

LGSF-LCAP naman is a task force, eh?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003070

It is a whole-of-government task force.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003071

So, and OPAPRU's direction is the same.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003072

In fact, they're also building infrastructure projects.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003073

They're also giving socioeconomic packages.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003074

That's correct, Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003075

The DBM naman po serves as administrator of this fund being an SPF.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003076

So, we submit to the wisdom of the...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003077

Well, in line with the optimization direction, Secretary, pakitingin na rin if we can merge it together.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003078

Actually, that's my proposal last year.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003079

Yung Green-Green-Green program, Secretary, wala na this year, no?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003080

For the Green-Green-Green, Your Honor, it was already integrated in the regular FALGO.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003081

In the regular FALGO na. So, doon na siya. Before, it was a separate account, eh.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003082

But we removed it in 2026 nga kasi it's hindi naman mandate ng DBM magpatayo ng parks, no?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003083

So, hindi nyo naman mandate yun.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003084

Well, I'll go with my second round.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003085

I'll let Senator Kiko give his questions first so I can review my notes.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003086

Thank you, Mr. President. Magandang tanghali.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003087

Secretary, actually, more of requests for updates and you don't have to answer these questions now, no?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003088

But before plenary, if it can be, you can respond through your office and my staff.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003089

But before that, Mr. President, I was listening intently on the discussions on the Supreme Court ruling.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003090

And last week, actually, before it was announced, Justice Leonin and I were in the Senate Electoral Tribunal meeting.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003091

And he gave us a preview of the ruling.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003092

And he actually said that as far as 2024 and 2025 is concerned, the doctrine of post-operative fact will apply.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003093

In other words, for future.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003094

Actions of both houses and the executive.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003095

So, hindi problema yun.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003096

Actually, ang kailangan siguro maklarify is yung 2026.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003097

Kasi walang ganung, doon sa mga pondong nagastos na sa 2026, walang categorical statement on the doctrine of post-operative fact.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003098

So, I think you have to clarify that.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003099

And having said that, do you have, of the 150,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003100

a billion for 2026, meron na bang narilis doon sa UNPROGRAM?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003101

Your Honor, for the UNPROGRAM, the appropriations, we have not released any charge against Section 1A and 1B.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003102

Ah, okay.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003103

Tanging foreign-assisted pa lamang po ang naririlis from UNPROGRAM.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003104

So, you won't have a problem, therefore.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003105

Okay.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003106

Thank you for that clarification.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003107

Now,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003108

my specific advocacies,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003109

actually, we wrote to the DPR,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003110

DBM on two matters.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003111

This is the matter of the,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003112

right now kasi,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003113

ah,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003114

Patuloy na namomblema yung livestock, particularly yung pork and piggery sector, yung magbababoy natin on the issue of the funding for the ASF.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003115

So we wrote the DBM according to the DA. May mga unpaid ASF and avian influenza indemnities. 58.17 million and 336.9 million.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003116

Ang recommendation ng DBM is to seek the President's approval to release 7.16 million.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003117

From the Contingency Fund and 329 million from the FY National Disaster Risk Reduction Fund.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003118

So what is the status of the, after your recommendation, has the request of the approval been relayed to the President?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003119

Yes, Your Honor. We have communicated formally our recommendation to the President.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003120

And after this meeting, we'll communicate.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003121

We'll communicate directly with the Office of the Executive Secretary to follow up on the status so that we can facilitate the immediate release of the allotments to DA to make sure that we'll be able to pay the farm.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003122

Thank you. And we will monitor that and I will ask that again during plenary because talagang tinatamaan ang ating livestock sector, particularly ang mga magbababoy dahil mas mababa na ang farmgate price sa production, cost of production.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003123

And the indemnities will go a long way for them given the current challenges.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003124

We've also asked and we'll get a sense, the DA to consider asking the President to already declare a state of calamity.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003125

Right now, five regions in the country have reported about 7 billion pesos losses in El Nino.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003127

And it will get worse before it gets worse.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003128

And so we would like to get the sense of the DBM Secretary. Would you support that declaration and would there be funds from the national government available?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003129

Well, Your Honor, the declaration of a state.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003130

of calamity arising from the extraordinary El Nino will not just unlock national government resources.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003131

In fact, it will also unlock local disaster risk reduction and management funds.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003132

So for us to have a whole of government and whole of nation approach in responding to El Nino, certainly we would welcome, should the President declare a state of calamity,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003133

we stand ready in guiding the agencies how they can best utilize their funding to respond to El Nino.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003134

But do you have funds?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003135

For El Nino, Your Honor, apart from the regular N-DREAM, the National Disaster Risk Reduction Management Fund,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003136

agencies have initially identified as well portions of their respective budgets that will be used for the preparation or response to El Nino.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003137

Based on the data at hand, we have about 112 for the remaining part of the 2026 GAA, 112 billion.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003138

And another 104 billion for the 2027 NEP.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003139

This is exclusive, Your Honor, of the Local Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Fund that may be accessed once there is this declaration.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003140

But even absent, Your Honor, a national declaration, LGUs who have declared their respective state of calamity because of their mandate under Republic Act 10-121

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003141

can already access their respective local disaster funds for this.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003142

Actually, may mga local declarations na.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003143

In Regions 5, Calbar Zone, Region 2, Soxargen, and one more.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003144

I forget.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003145

Region 5. Did I say Region 5?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003146

Okay.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003147

Region 2, Region 5, Calbar Zone, Soxargen, and Caraga.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003148

There you go.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003149

So five have already locally.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003150

But, you know.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003151

So you're saying there is 120?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003152

122 billion for 2026.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003153

112 billion, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003154

112 billion still available for this year.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003155

This is the totality, Your Honor, that includes the 39 billion in NRIP fund.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003156

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003157

Yes.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003158

So it's the last quarter.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003159

We can make that declaration and we have the funds to provide for the support.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003160

Okay.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003161

So thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003162

Thank you for that clarification.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003163

The other one would be the...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003164

I also raised this with the DBM.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003165

I just want an update.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003166

You don't have to answer it now, but if you can, good.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003167

If not, just before plenary.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003168

This is on the funding of the Anti-Agri-Economic Sabotage Council.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003169

We wrote you on last week or two weeks ago.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003170

We emailed you requesting information.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003171

Information on the funding.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003172

Of course, you replied.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003173

Thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003174

An initial 500 million was provided under RA 12022, which was establishing the council.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003175

You have identified 35.744 million under OPSF 2025 Presidential Oversight Program.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003176

But it remained unobligated as of August 27, 2026.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003177

But was available.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003178

For obligation.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003179

It is actually until December 31.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003180

So could you clarify?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003181

From the initial 500 million, this is what came from?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003182

And the reason why I'm raising this is because I had spoken with Deputy Executive Secretary Andres.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003183

And he informed me that for the council to be effective, he needs...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003184

He needs more people.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003185

But 35 million will not do it.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003186

Actually, Your Honor, if I may respond.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003187

The DBM has already approved the request of the AAES to establish its permanent secretariat.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003188

They have already issued the necessary approval to the OP.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003189

And I believe they are now organizing the permanent secretariat.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003193

The funding for which is usually sourced from the Miscellaneous Personal Benefits Fund.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003194

So this is over and above what was initially quoted, which is the 35.74 million,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003195

which is just part of the regular operating budget of the OP.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003196

So with the approval on the creation of the positions, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003197

once they fill that up, we will be releasing additional allotments to cover the salaries of the hired personnel, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003198

Okay. Thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003200

Because as I mentioned,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003201

kahapon sa DA budget at sa ilang pagkakataon, pati sa DOA budget,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003202

yung problema ng smuggling, billion-billion ang nakumpiska.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003203

Itong last month, dalawang shipment ng bigas galing Vietnam,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003204

totaling about 700 million pesos,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003205

ang threshold sa smuggling na non-bailable, yung economic sabotage,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003206

is only 10 million pesos worth of agriculture products.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003207

Pero dahil, well, yun yung malaking tanong.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003208

Billion na nakakumpis ka, pero wala pang nakukulong na financier ng daang milyon.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003209

Kahit na 10 million lang ang threshold.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003210

So para tayong keystone cops, you know,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003211

sino bang above 60 dito?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003212

Alam nyo yung...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003213

Keystone cops, di ba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003214

Yung mga...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003215

Well, ang version natin would be polis patola.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003216

No?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003217

Kumpiska tayo ng kumpiska, pero yung mga salarin,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003218

hindi naman natin kinukulong, hindi naman natin kinakasuhan.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003219

So this AAES funding is critical

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003220

so that we can pinapatay ng smuggling yung ating local farmers

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003221

and fisher folk, no?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003222

So, okay.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003223

Siguro yung huli natin,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003224

just going back to the earlier LGSF,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003225

you know, I remember kasi during the time of Secretary Butchabad,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003226

they were strong, and Secretary Jesse Robredo,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003227

they were very strong on the bottoms-up budgeting.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003228

Is that a program that the DBM is considering, you know, to reintroduce?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003229

Your Honor, actually, there is one...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003230

There is one sub-program under the LGSF,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003231

which is what we call the Support for Participatory Budgeting,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003232

although it's only 1 billion out of the total LGSF.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003233

So we intend to use this really to also incentivize public participation,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003234

CSO participation in the budget.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003235

And for 2027, this is also one thing that we would like to use

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003236

to incentivize LGUs who have actively...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003237

Participated in the Open Government Partnership,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003238

almost similar to the concept of the bottom-up budgeting implemented before, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003239

Okay, and if you can provide us, you know, some material on this

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003240

so that we can, likewise, you know, if we need to fund more, why not?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003241

Certainly, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003242

Now, on the issue of the...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003243

What's the term again?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003244

The 23 billion that was allocated for rice?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003245

Under the Falgo, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003246

Yes, I sat...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003247

Down with Secretary ES, Recto,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003248

and actually in the memorandum circular that you issued

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003249

or that the ES issued on the 23 billion,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003250

there was a provision there on encouraging Sagip Saka, no?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003251

But I've been hearing that there are some LGUs that buy the imported rice, no?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003252

For some reason, no?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003253

Okay.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003254

Dapat yun.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003255

Bawal.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003256

Certainly, Your Honor, there is...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003257

Of the understanding that really, there is an express...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003258

We're just verifying, Your Honor, if there is an express prohibition,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003259

but we are of the understanding...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003260

No, there is no prohibition.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003261

That we highly encourage...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003262

No, there is no prohibition on imported rice, number one.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003263

Number two, it only encourages, di ba,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003264

that the fund be...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003265

That the fund be...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003266

Utilized to purchase directly.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003267

To purchase Sagip Saka, yun.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003268

Yes, yes.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003269

That's important because, you know,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003270

case in point is the city government of Quezon City.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003271

And this was explained to me by Joy Belmonte.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003272

They bought about 200 plus million worth of rice

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003273

directly sa farmers and Fisherfolk Cooperative

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003274

using the LGSF fund.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003275

The rice...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003276

What's the name?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003277

Bawat bayan makikinawa...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003278

Okay.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003279

And she told me,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003280

if they went through the regular bidding process,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003281

it would have been about 15 pesos per kilo more expensive.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003282

They got it at 50 pesos per kilo

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003283

when they bought it directly from the farmers' co-op.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003284

But if it went through the public bidding,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003285

it would have been about 65 pesos a kilo.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003286

So they saved over 100 plus million pesos worth

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003287

of LGSF funds.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003288

And they were able to buy...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003289

So, it works if it's made to work.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003290

So, I hope, you know,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003291

and the discussion was towards being able to provide,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003292

you know, incentives for our local governments

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003293

to do the same.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003294

So, hopefully, as you implement this program

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003295

together with the LGUs,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003296

is there a interagency committee that oversees this?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003297

How does that work?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003298

Right now, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003299

we are working with the DILG,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003300

for the monitoring of the actual implementation of the program.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003301

So, the DILG shares their monitoring reports back to the DBM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003302

about the status of the LGSF fund.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003303

So, your LGSF fund will go...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003304

You know, what is 15 pesos or 50 pesos?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003305

How much percent is that?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003306

Is that...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003307

So, your fund will...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003308

You're extending your fund 30% more

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003309

if you implement it correctly.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003310

And these are not small amounts.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003311

The PIDIG Multipurpose Cooperative

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003312

sold 52 million pesos worth of rice.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003313

Another cooperative, San Peregrina.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003314

Meron palang San Peregrin.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003315

San Peregrina

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003316

was about 68 million pesos worth of rice.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003317

Diba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003318

So, malaking pondo na malaking pakinabang doon sa lokal,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003319

makakaning pakinabang doon sa LGU.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003320

Everybody wins.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003321

The one that doesn't win is the corrupt tongpats kickback.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003322

You know?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003323

Well, middleman also.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003324

Diba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003325

And the politician who would rather do it that way.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003326

Diba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003327

Yun ang loser doon.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003328

Kaya, bantayan ninyo para win-win.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003329

Ika nga, our Senate President.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003330

Sige po, yun lang.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003331

And then, if you can...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003332

If you can give us...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003333

Also, supporting documents for that program.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003334

Just so that we can see how it's being implemented.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003335

Updates, a report.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003336

Before plenary, you don't have to do it.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003337

Yes, thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003338

Thank you, Secretary.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003339

I have no other questions, Mr. President.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003340

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003341

Thank you, Senator Pangilinan, our

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003342

President.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003343

Okay.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003344

Just a few questions.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003345

Just like to ask about

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003346

DBM's vetting standard for infrastructure

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003347

projects. During our budget briefing

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003348

for the DPWH 2027 budget,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003349

the agency discussed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003350

its reforms in vetting

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003351

in its infrastructure projects.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003352

The agency has required

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003353

the submission of documentary requirements

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003354

such as Certificate of Implementability,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003355

Validated Geotag

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003356

Photographs with Coordinates, Master

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003357

Plan, and Certification

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003358

from the Regional or Local Development

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003359

Councils. We noticed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003360

that most of the projects have not met

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003361

or have not yet complied with

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003362

these requirements. During

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003363

the budget preparation of DBM, what is the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003364

vetting process being implemented to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003365

ensure that the proposal

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003366

of agencies that implement

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003367

infrastructure projects would

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003368

have certain standards and that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003369

these standards are being met?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003370

Maybe that's all.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003371

To make sure that reforms

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003372

will be continuous.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003373

Actually, Your Honor, for the 2027

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003374

budget, the documents that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003375

you have mentioned were precisely the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003376

same set that we required

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003377

from DPWH before

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003378

we can entertain any proposal

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003379

to land in the NEP. This is

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003380

already a

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003381

departure from

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003382

previous practice

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003383

that we just end up getting a

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003384

list and it

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003385

ends up in the NEP.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003386

We thank the DPWH

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003387

for cooperating

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003388

and despite it,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003389

ang result po noon is a week

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003390

or even two weeks of almost

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003391

overtime looking over more than

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003392

10 million of different

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003393

projects. Meron na po tayong na-spot

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003394

at an earlier stage

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003395

where there is a possible duplication,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003396

or may possible

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003397

same set of projects,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003398

non-existing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003399

projects, or yun pong kanilang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003400

geotag

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003401

ay located

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003402

somewhere else.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003403

That was prepared ahead of time

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003404

contrary to other

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003405

GAAs.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003406

Another reform that we're

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003407

also implementing is also moving

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003408

forward, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003409

that for 2028, we have

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003410

agreed with the Department of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003411

Economy, Planning, and Development

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003412

starting off the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003413

budget preparation, particularly

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003414

for infrastructure and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003415

investment projects. Ngayon pa lang po,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003416

we have already a joint memorandum

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003417

circular with DEP-DEV,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003418

encouraging and joining agencies

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003419

that as early as now,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003420

dapat po dumadaan na lahat sa Regional

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003421

Development Council lahat po ng

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003422

projects, and we will put premium

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003423

on all RDC-endorsed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003424

projects in the people system

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003425

dun po sa aming evaluation,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003426

ng budget proposals for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003427

2028. So these are incremental

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003428

reforms that we are implementing,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003429

Your Honor, in terms of planning for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003430

our infrastructure projects.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003431

Another thing, just one last, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003432

is we're also flagging the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003433

agencies, not only DPWH, but

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003434

even DOTR, for instance.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003435

Yun pong updating

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003436

ng mga master plan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003437

so that we can plan on a multi-year

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003438

basis, at hindi po siya piecemeal.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003439

Isa po kasi sa mga naging observation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003440

po natin. Yun po,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003441

kung hindi po natin malaman saan po ba

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003442

matatapos yung isang project na may

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003443

phase number, meron po kaming

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003444

umabot sa phase 56.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003445

So hindi po na namin masure ano po ba

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003446

yung end line nung

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003447

project. So we are

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003448

really enjoining and requiring the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003449

agencies to come up with a master plan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003450

and make a multi-year

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003451

programming

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003452

para po mas maayos

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003453

yung ating paglalatag. And most importantly,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003454

to make sure that the projects

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003455

are implementation ready,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003456

dapat po walang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003457

objection din. No objection from

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003458

the concerned local government

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003459

units, which I believe was also espoused

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003460

by the President himself, but po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003461

walang objection ang mga LGUs

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003462

pagdating po sa implementation ng mga ganitong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003463

projects by national

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003464

government agencies within their

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003465

jurisdiction. Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003466

Thank you for that. Actually,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003467

we are also still

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003468

pursuing the reforms that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003469

we started last year. Good to hear

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003470

that, of course, DBM is

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003471

also pursuing the reforms

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003472

that were started.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003473

And actually here in the Senate,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003474

we

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003475

employed seven or eight

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003476

additional staff to vet,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003477

to check on line by line,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003478

itong mga submissions po ng DPWH and other

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003479

agencies. Our Senate President

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003480

has done the same. So dalawa po yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003481

naging check dito on our end

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003482

to make sure that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003483

the infrastructures are vetted,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003484

na talaga sinusuri po sila.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003485

I assume that, of course,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003486

DBM will only have that capability,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003487

technical capability,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003488

to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003489

go over these projects.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003490

Yun kaya lang, one by one.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003491

Dati, binibigyan lang. We take it

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003492

as it is.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003493

But in our

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003494

initial review with the DPWH

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003495

projects, marami pa rin ang di sumusunod

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003496

sa mga requirements natin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003497

that are already in the NEP.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003498

I just

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003499

want to check

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003500

and verify

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003501

if there are any

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003502

about 10,145

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003503

projects or 88.84%

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003504

of the total have no submitted

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003505

supporting documents and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003506

48 projects are completely absent from the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003507

DPWH

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003508

evaluation portal.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003509

Anyway, ano pa lang naman to?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003510

Initial

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003511

findings that we have.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003512

I don't know if

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003513

we'd like to ask

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003514

if this can be verified.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003515

Actually, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003516

during the first instance,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003517

we share some

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003518

sort of similar findings. Pero with

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003519

the technology, kasi apparently, baka

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003520

nasa kabilang folder, that's also

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003521

the same challenge we encountered

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003522

when we were evaluating the DPWH

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003523

proposal. So, minsan po kasi may

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003524

folder within a folder, tapos yung

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003525

isang file. Because I did

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003526

the evaluation myself. I also looked at

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003527

the files. Kasi nung ang feedback

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003528

po sa aking ay wala nga po, I made sure

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003529

na talagang kung nandoon man,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003530

I even opened that portal to see

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003531

it myself.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003532

Present ba yan talaga doon? So, there are

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003533

even instances na

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003534

like a bulk, a big chunk,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003535

a hundred set of projects, nakalump

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003536

siya into one file. So, may mga

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003537

ganito lang mga filing or uploading

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003538

conventions probably na na-encounter.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003539

And also, just

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003540

to add lang, Your Honor, we did not

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003541

stop when the NEP was actually

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003542

submitted. We also have a team

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003543

working and we've been

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003544

coordinating with DPWH.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003545

Hindi lang po kami doon sa project title.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003546

We're even now looking at yung kanilang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003547

standard unit

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003548

cost analysis. So that at

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003549

least we can align for 2028

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003550

then what we will expect is

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003551

meron din tayong mas updated,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003552

mas reliable na standard unit

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003553

costing na pareho pong maaasaan.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003554

Kasi at the DBM, as mentioned in the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003555

previous budget hearings, wala naman po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003556

kaming engineer. So, we have to better

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003557

understand how these unit

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003558

costings were arrived at so that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003559

we also increase our confidence

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003560

pagdating po doon sa evaluation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003561

ng mga proposals for infrastructure

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003562

projects.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003563

Thank you, Secretary Kim. I just

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003564

want to go now to your proposed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003565

budget sa DBM

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003566

mismo. Original budget proposal

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003567

was 5.486

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003568

billion but slashed by

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003569

nearly half to 2.965

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003570

billion in the NEP.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003571

So, of course,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003572

DBM being one

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003573

of the very few departments or agencies

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003574

that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003575

talagang nag-cut. Kasi

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003576

kadalasan, of course, wanted

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003577

siyempre mas marami humihingi ng

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003578

increase but probably

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003579

kung meron mang nakakaintindi ng ating

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003580

fiscal space, it's DBM.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003581

So, just

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003582

want to know what programs

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003583

or priority projects or

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003584

requirements will be compromised

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003585

because of this

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003586

huge budget

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003587

slash from 5.4

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003588

to 2.965 billion

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003589

sa NEP. In fact, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003590

this is a classic example

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003591

of DBM practicing what it preaches.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003592

And as

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003593

mentioned by the Honorable Senator

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003594

Aimee Marcos before, we have some

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003595

continuing appropriations na yun po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003596

yung aming nire-recalibrate

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003597

and even the implementation of the projects.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003598

But one thing we can assure the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003599

Chamber is that no

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003600

service will be adversely

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003601

affected by a lower budget

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003602

allocation. We're just spending

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003603

more efficiently, revisiting whether

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003604

we really need these items.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003605

And in fact, even pursuing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003606

more efficiency

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003607

measures without entailing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003608

substantial costs on the part of government,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003609

Your Honor. Actually,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003610

your Senate also is

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003611

practicing the same austerity

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003612

measures under our Senate President.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003613

Among the agency's

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003614

departments,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003615

the Senate will be reducing our budget

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003616

by 1.2

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003617

to 2 billion. Depends.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003618

Tinitingnan pa natin. Pero

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003619

kami po ang isa sa malagbaba

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003620

din ng budget natin.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003621

So, practice,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003622

is what we preach.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003623

That is correct.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003624

That is correct.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-003625

That is correct.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003626

Because of the reforms that we started, we are still

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003627

ongoing. And we want to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003628

our challenge really

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003629

is to bring back the trust in the budget

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003630

process. The DBM

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003631

OSEC received zero funding for its capital

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003632

outlay in the 2027 NEP

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003633

alongside significant cuts in

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003634

the MOOE, what will be affected

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003635

with these reductions. And likewise,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003636

while the Department emphasizes

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003637

strong push toward the full digital

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003638

transformation of government

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003639

agencies, there is a huge reduction of

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003640

328.9 million

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003641

in subscription and ICT

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003642

software licensing

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003643

expenses for 2027.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003644

How will the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003645

OSEC ensure that its ongoing

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003646

digital transformation roadmap

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003647

and major systems rollouts

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003648

remain on track

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003649

despite all

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003650

of these budget

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003651

reductions?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003652

The zero allocation for capital outlay,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003653

is, again, part of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003654

our refocusing of our

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003655

expenditure. As mentioned, we

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003656

have some considerable amount

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003657

of continuing appropriations

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003658

even for 2026 that will carry

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003659

over for 2027. So

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003660

instead of asking for more, we intend

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003661

to maximize on that and look

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003662

at and revisit the quality of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003663

spending. As to pursuing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003664

the digitalization, in

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003665

fact, we are happy to report to this

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003666

chamber and to this committee that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003667

we have even pursued a number of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003668

digitization initiatives, but without

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003669

cost to the government. For instance,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003670

we have recently launched the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003671

DBM Compass, which was institutionalized

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003672

by President Marcos through

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003673

EO 126 that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003674

aims to make budget releases

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003675

more transparent, more accessible,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003676

and more

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003677

understandable

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003678

for our constituents.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003679

So we launched Compass at no

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003680

cost to the government. We are now

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003681

rolling out a digital submission

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003682

portal, which is now what we call DBM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003683

Submit, so that agencies will

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003684

no longer send us boxes

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003685

of documents to support their

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

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budget release documents.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003687

So the DBM Submit was

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asr-003688

again developed in-house without

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003689

any additional expense on the part

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003690

of government. So this is how we intend

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003691

to pursue our digital transformation,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003692

not really needing

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003693

much of additional

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003694

spending on the part of government, but

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003695

utilizing existing talents

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003696

and resources that we have.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003697

Your Honor, Mr. Chair.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003698

I'd just like to ask also

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003699

yung budget cuts under

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003700

itong General Appropriations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Bill.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003702

Under the General Appropriations Bill, the National Disaster

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Risk Reduction Management Fund and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003704

Pension and Gratuity Fund

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003705

have both received budget cuts.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003706

And the RRMF by

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003707

9.5 billion and Pension and Gratuity

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003708

Fund by 10 billion.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003709

So with the proposed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003710

reduction in the Calamity Fund in the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003711

House version, will the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003712

government still have the adequate

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003713

resources in view of the severe

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003714

El Niño, super El Niño

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003715

itong darating, alongside

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003716

the major typhoons or other disasters?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003717

Follow-up?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003718

Follow-up ko na rin.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003719

Does DBM have an estimate of the potential

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003720

additional budget requirements

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003721

under moderate and severe

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003722

El Niño scenarios?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003723

Yun lang. 9.5 billion from the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003724

Calamity Fund was reduced and the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003725

HGAB. I don't know if

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003726

this will be the same realignment

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003727

doon sa bagong entry

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003728

nila doon sa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003729

assistance to farmers and fisher folks.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003730

Baka para diretsyo na.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003731

So I don't know. Secretary Kim,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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can you

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003733

comment on this?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003734

Yung malaki reduction in the Calamity

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003735

Fund and the RRMF?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003736

Well, certainly, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003737

if there will be a reduction,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003738

in the NDRM Fund, that would mean

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003739

that there will be

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003740

less resources that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003741

will be available to respond to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003742

disasters and calamities because as

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003743

we have earlier reported to Senator

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003744

Pangilinan, the estimated figures

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003745

that we reported was based on the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003746

NEP level. So if there will be a reduction,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003747

that will definitely have

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003748

an impact. But as the good chairperson

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003749

has mentioned, kung ito naman po ay

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003750

pupunta sa isang mas direct

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003751

naman na programa,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003752

that would also help

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003753

naman.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003754

A more particular

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003755

stakeholder or sector.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003756

Ang magiging advantage lamang po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003757

ng paglalagay directly sa isang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003758

programa would be

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003759

hopefully faster implementation,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003760

more direct to the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003761

targeted stakeholder.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003762

Pagdating po doon sa possible reduction

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003763

in pension and gratuity fund,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003764

ito po, this will just tighten

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003765

the available space para po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003766

doon sa ating mga ibinibigay

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003767

na pension and gratuities para sa ating

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003768

mga retirees. Sa NEP po,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003769

kasi kasama po doon yung ating

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003770

estimate for the optional

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003771

retirees. So usually po, kapag

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003772

nababawasan ang PGF, ang nangyayari

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003773

po, hindi po natin

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003774

na ibibigay kaagad yung

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003775

required pension and gratuity dahil

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003776

nga po we are limiting the releases

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003777

because of a substantially

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003778

reduced amount

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003779

or level for the PGF.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003780

Ito po yung consequence kung makakaroon

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003781

man po your honor ng

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003782

pagbaba doon po sa

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003783

pension and gratuity fund. Kasi ang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003784

tip po talaga natin, yung

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003785

regular pension

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003786

Yung mandatory retirees

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003787

Yung usually pong nababump off

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003788

Yung optional retirees

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003789

Tsaka po yung monetization of leave credits

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003790

So in the past

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003791

I just want to find out

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003792

Were there claims previously deferred

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003793

Or were there pending claims due to budget cuts

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003794

Or insufficient funding

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003795

Na hindi natin naibigay

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003796

How often

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003797

And how many retirees are

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003798

Affected

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003799

We were just checking the actual amount

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003800

But Your Honor

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003801

In the 2024 and 2025

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003802

UA Your Honor

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003803

Meron pong entry po doon

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003804

For personal benefits

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003805

So ito po yung nagiging

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003806

Ito po yung natap before

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003807

Para mapunan po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003808

Yung naging mga pagkukulang sa

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003809

MPBF and PGF

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003810

Both MPBF and PGF po ito Your Honor

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003811

Also yung sa ano

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003812

Concern lang ako no

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003813

I just want to get yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003814

Ano ng DBM

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003815

Ang comment

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003816

Because

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003817

As I mentioned earlier

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003818

Isa sa mga talagang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003819

Advocacy and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003820

Things that I really push here

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003821

Is the infrastructure development

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003822

And

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003823

When we receive the HGAP

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003824

There's a big reduction of

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003825

130 billion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003826

And I'm

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003827

I presume

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003828

That DBM

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003829

Also recommends

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003830

Yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003831

Ating

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003832

Amount that is

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003833

Allotted for

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003834

Foreign assisted

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003835

Projects

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003836

Of course

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003837

Yung loan proceeds

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003838

The government

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003839

Counterpart

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003840

Ito yung maimportante

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003841

And these are

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003842

Obligations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003843

Our obligations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003844

So I just like to ask

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003845

With the big reduction

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003846

Of 130 billion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003847

Ano po ang mag-i-effect

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003848

Ito sa ekonomiya natin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003849

Sa ekonomiya

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003850

And also

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003851

With our

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003852

Funders

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003853

I intend

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003854

Actually next week

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003855

To meet with

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003856

With the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003857

DOTR and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003858

DPW

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003859

Secretary

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003860

To find out

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003861

Yung kanila pong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003862

Minimum

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003863

Needs

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003864

So that there will be

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003865

No more delays

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003866

We don't want

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003867

What happened in

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003868

2025

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003869

Or 2024

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003870

Na napunta ito sa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003871

Unprogrammed appropriations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003872

And cost delays

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003873

So that there will be

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003874

Costing us

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003875

Big commitment fees

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003876

Na delay pa yung project

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003877

Na dapat

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003878

2028

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003879

Na push back to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003880

2032

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003881

Yung NSCR

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003882

And the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003883

Metromedial subway system

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003884

So

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003885

Just siguro

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003886

commit ng

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003887

DBM

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003888

With the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003889

Reduction on the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003890

HGAB of

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003891

Foreign assisted

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003892

Should in case

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003893

Sa Senate version

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003894

We intend to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003895

Restore

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003896

At least

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003897

Yung pong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003898

Due

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003899

Loan proceeds

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003900

And government

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003901

Participation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003902

Or counterpart

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003903

Next year

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003904

Certainly

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003905

Mr. Chair

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003906

Ang pangunahing dahilan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003907

Naman po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003908

Kung bakit

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003909

The executive

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003910

Led by the president

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003911

Recommended such amount

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003912

For the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003913

Foreign assisted project

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003914

Is really to fast track

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003915

The implementation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003916

Of the projects

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003917

Dahil ito nga po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003918

Ay commitment natin

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003919

Hindi lang po sa ating

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003920

Mga development partners

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003921

Kundi po sa

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003922

Sambayan ng Pilipino

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003923

Who are

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003924

Supposed to benefit

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003925

From this

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003926

Railway and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003927

Infrastructure project

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003928

So the necessary effect

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003929

As mentioned

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003930

By the chair

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003931

Kung magkaroon man po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003932

Ng reduction

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003933

Is malilimitahan po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003934

Muli

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003935

Yung kakayahan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003936

Nung ating mga

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003937

Agencies

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003938

Na makapag

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003939

Accelerate

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003940

Ng kanilang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003941

Implementation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003942

Dahil po sa mga

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003943

Nakaraang taon

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003944

Just as we also

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003945

Did ngayong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003946

2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003947

Nabanggit po nga po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003948

Kanina

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003949

Yun pong ating

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003950

Unprogrammed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003951

Appropriations

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003952

Ay talagang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003953

Nagamit natin

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003954

Pampampuno po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003955

Doon sa mga

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003956

Naging kakulangan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003957

Sa loan proceeds

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003958

Component

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003959

Nung ating mga

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003960

Foreign assisted

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003961

Projects

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003962

So mindful now

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003963

Of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003964

Court decision

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003965

That has been

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003966

Released

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003967

Recently

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003968

Ito po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003969

Isang magkakaroon

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003970

Din po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003971

Ng implication

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003972

Kung ano man po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003973

Yung maiiwan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003974

Doon sa

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003975

Unprogrammed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003976

Appropriations

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003977

For foreign

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003978

Assisted projects

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003979

But we hope

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003980

The Congress

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003981

The Senate

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003982

Will support

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003983

The executive

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003984

In ensuring po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003985

Na matapos po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003986

Maimplementa po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003987

Natin itong ating

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003988

Mga committed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003989

Priority

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003990

Infrastructure projects

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003991

Both under

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003992

Hindi lang po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003993

Under DOTR

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003994

And DPWH

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003995

Because we also have

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003996

Other foreign

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003997

Assisted projects

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-003998

In other agencies

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003999

And also

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004000

Initial

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004001

I'm hoping

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004002

That we will have

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004003

A compromise

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004004

With the house

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004005

Counterparts

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004006

Regarding this

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004007

Because

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004008

From what I

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004009

I recall

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004010

That this

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004011

Issue has been

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004012

Brought to the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004013

President's attention

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004014

During his

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004015

Last two visits

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004016

In Japan

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004017

By JICA

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004018

And the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004019

Japanese government

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004020

So these are

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004021

Obligations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004022

At saka hindi naman to yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004023

Huli

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004024

Diba na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004025

In case we finish

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004026

The NSCR

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004027

And the Metro

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004028

Subway system

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004029

Meron pa tayong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004030

Mindanao Railway

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004031

Meron pa tayong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004032

South Long Haul

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004033

Yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004034

Itong pa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004035

Bicol

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004036

Bicol

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004037

Bicol Express

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004038

May North Rail pa tayo

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004039

The airport

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004040

Sports

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004041

So

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004042

I think

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004043

That we really have to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004044

Honor our

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004045

Obligations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004046

Kasi baka hindi tayo

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004047

Makaulit

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004048

Diba

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004049

They

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004050

Entrusted us

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004051

ADB

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004052

JICA

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004053

Entrusted us

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004054

With this

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004055

So

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004056

We will have a

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004057

Compromise

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004058

I'm sure

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004059

That's why

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004060

I would want to get

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004061

The minimum

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004062

That is needed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004063

So that we will not be

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004064

Delayed in our

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004065

Obligations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004066

For the loan proceeds

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004067

And the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004068

Government

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004069

The counterparts

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004070

That is needed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004071

For the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004072

Main projects

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004073

Kasi naalala ko nun

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004074

We were both

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004075

Congress

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004076

We were

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004077

We were both

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004078

All of us

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004079

Were both congressmen

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004080

We were both

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004081

In the House of Representatives

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004082

SP Win

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004083

Setor Aimee

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004084

Myself

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004085

Of course

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004086

Our

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004087

Is to bring

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004088

Our

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004089

To bring projects

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004090

To our district

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004091

Yun naman ang ano natin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004092

And we do understand

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004093

That the parochial needs

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004094

Have to be

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004095

Satisfied as well

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004096

May magaganda naman

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004097

Proyekto roon

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004098

Kaya lang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004099

Ang sa akin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004100

Yung mga legacy projects

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004101

As I mentioned

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004102

Nation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004103

Projects that have something

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004104

To do with nation building

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004105

Dapat hindi na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004106

Dapat no touch yun eh

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004107

Diba

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004108

We have to play

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004109

Catch up already

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004110

To our ASEAN neighbors

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004111

Sa pag iwanan na tayo

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004112

In terms

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004113

Of

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004114

Infrastructure development

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004115

I'm just happy that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004116

Through the years

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004117

2% lang yung ating

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004118

Of the GDP

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004119

Is allotted to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004120

Infra

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004121

Habang sila po

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004122

Nasa 5 to 7%

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004123

So we need to play

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004124

A lot of catch up

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004125

So that's why

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004126

I would like to really

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004127

Give

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004128

Importance

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004129

And priority to this

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004130

So thank you for that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004131

Secretary Kim

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004132

I would like to go to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004133

MMDA

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004134

Siguro

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004135

Andito na rin na si

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004136

Chairman

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004137

Artis

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004138

Masyadong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004139

Ano natin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004140

Yung flood management

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004141

Mitigation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004142

Recently

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004143

Wala masyadong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004144

Bagyo

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004145

Pero yung amihan lang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004146

Nagbabaha ka

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004147

Agad ng Metro Manila

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004148

So

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004149

Of course

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004150

We would want to ask

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004151

MMDA

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004152

For yung mga plano natin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004153

Under the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004154

2027 proposed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004155

Expenditure program

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004156

888.9 million

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004157

Will be allocated

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004158

To the Metro Manila

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004159

Flood control program

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004160

And

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004161

2.5 billion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004162

For flood control projects

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004163

Under

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004164

LFPs

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004165

And hence

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004166

The total budget

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004167

allotted

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004171

For flood mitigation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004172

Amounts of

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004173

3.398 billion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004174

But number one

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004175

There's a reduced funding

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004176

On flood management

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004177

There are significant

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004178

Budget cuts

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004179

On flood mitigation programs

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004180

From the authorities

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004181

Originally proposed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004182

DBM recommended amount

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004183

Actually

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004184

Recommended na ito

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004185

So

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004186

Ang question ko lang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004187

Sa impounding facilities

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004188

I think these are

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004189

Very important projects

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004190

That was proposed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004191

By our chair

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004192

Last year pa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004193

So

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004194

Pero ang tanong ko lang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004195

Sa 3.398 billion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004196

Na budget ng MMDA

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004197

Para sa flood mitigation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004198

Kasama ba dito

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004199

Ang budget para sa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004200

Proposed impounding facilities

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004201

Or

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004202

Hindi pa kasi

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004203

From what I know

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004204

Medyo mahalo yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004205

Impounding facilities

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004206

And

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004207

So does it

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004208

Does the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004209

3.39

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004210

Billion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004211

Budget of MMDA

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004212

For flood mitigation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004213

Does it include

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004214

Impounding facilities

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004215

In Metro Manila

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004216

Wala pa po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004217

Your honors

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004218

That's why

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004219

Magre-request nga po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004220

Sana kami sa inyo

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004221

Nang tulong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004222

Para po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004223

Mapondohan

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004224

We

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004225

Already identified

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004226

39 sites

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004227

Na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004228

Pinag-aralan na po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004229

Nang hasconing

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004230

We were given

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004231

We

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004232

The DBM po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004233

Ay

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004234

Nag-allocate po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004235

Sa DRM fund

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004236

For

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004237

This year

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004238

To fund some of the

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004239

Rain catchments po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004240

Or

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004241

Rain impounding facility

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004242

But we would like to request

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004243

Some of the

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004244

Fundings for some more

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004245

Lalo na po yung

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004246

Madbibilis lang po gawin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004247

Yung hindi po kailangan ng

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004248

Major infrastructure

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004249

Like cisterns

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004250

Marami naman po kasing

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004251

Interventions na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004252

Lalo na yung mga

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004253

Nature-based solutions lang na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004254

Like parang mga parks lang po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004255

Na ilulubog yung

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004256

Yung lupa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004257

Mga amphitheaters

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004258

Na nakalubog

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004259

Na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004260

Pag malakas po yung ulan

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004261

Temporarily

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004262

Ika-catch po yung tubig doon

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004263

And then

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004264

Slowly i-release

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004265

Pero dito po sa mga cisterns

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004266

Na gagawin natin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004267

Your honors

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004268

Kausa po namin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004269

Ang

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004270

Mga water concessionaires

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004271

At lalagyan po nila

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004272

Ng

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004273

Simple na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004274

Water filtration system

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004275

Para po yung makakatch natin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004276

Na tubig ay

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004277

Magamit secondarily

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004278

Like pang dilig po ng halaman

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004279

Pang flush ng toilet

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asr-004280

Pang hugas po ng sasakyan

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And all

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

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Which is makakatulong din po

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Sa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004284

Mitigation po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004285

Nang

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004286

Epekto po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004287

Ng El Nino

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004288

Your honors

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004289

Actually that's a very good

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004290

Proposal

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004291

Chairman Artes

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004292

Because

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004293

Also with the DPWH

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004294

And also the NIA

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004295

And even

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004296

Department of Agriculture

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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I

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004298

Suggested

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004299

That they

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004300

Go in a different direction

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004301

Na hindi lang yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004302

Usual flood control

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004303

Na mga river revetment

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004304

Sa NIA

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004305

Naman

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004306

Panay

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004307

Irrigation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004308

We already have to go

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004309

Into

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004310

Retention

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004311

Yung mga water retention

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004312

Yung ating mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004313

Impounding

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004314

Facilities

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004315

Yung mga small dams

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004316

Para sa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004317

NIA and DPWH

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004318

Dapat may convergence

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004319

Because

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004320

We receive so much

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Rain

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004322

Rainfall

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004323

Yung amount

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004324

Ng rainfall natin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004325

Grabe

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004326

Pero

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004327

Pag tagtuyot

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004328

Tuyot talaga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004329

So

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004330

I think

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004331

That would be

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004332

Good idea

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004333

Yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004334

At least

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004335

Magagamit yung tubig

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004336

For other purposes

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004337

For

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004338

Watering the plants

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004339

And

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004340

Pangbalinis

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004341

At iba pa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004342

So

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004343

And also I remember

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004344

Chairman

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004345

That you have

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004346

You proposed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004347

Impounding stations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004348

Na main

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004349

Yung mga main

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004350

Sana no

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004351

When I defend your budget

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004352

Sa Camp Aguinaldo

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004353

Yes po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004354

Kasama po yun sa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004355

Nabigyan po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004356

Ng allocation

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004357

Ng DBM

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004358

At ng ating pangulo

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004359

Yung pong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004360

Sa Camp Aguinaldo

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004361

Also

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004362

Rizal Memorial

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004363

Complex

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004364

And Rizal Park

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004365

Sa Rizal po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004366

Ang ginawa na lang po namin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004367

Kasi may renovation

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004368

Pa po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004369

Ang PSC doon

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004370

But

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004371

Meron po kaming gagawin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004372

Sa may

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004373

Harborview

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004374

Na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004375

Maliit lang po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004376

And then lalagyan namin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004377

Ng pumps

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004378

Para

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004379

Kasi meron po tayong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004380

Isang drainage main

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004381

Doon na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004382

3.5 by 3.5 meters

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004383

Ang

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004384

Laki

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004385

It's just that

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004386

Hindi po nakakalabas

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004387

Ang tubig

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004388

Kasi

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004389

Pag high tide

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004390

Kasi po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004391

By

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004392

Gravity lang siya

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004393

So

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004394

Kailangan po lang

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004395

Na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004396

Lagyan ng

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004397

Impounding

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004398

Pero

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004399

Lalagyan din po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004400

Dapat ng pumps

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004401

Para po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004402

Continuously

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004403

Mapump out yung tubig

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004404

So

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004405

Hindi pa po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004406

Nakasama yan doon

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004407

Sa initial

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004408

Na fundan

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004409

Yung Rizal Park

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004410

Di rin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004411

Yung Rizal Park

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004412

Yung Rizal Park po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004413

Kasi

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004414

Based sa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004415

Initial

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004416

Assessment po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004417

Ng Haskoning

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004418

Hindi po siya

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004419

Priority

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004420

Dahil wala pong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004421

Tubig na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004422

Natural na dumadaan doon

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004423

Medyo mataas po kasi

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004424

Yung lugar

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004425

And

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004426

It will be costly

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004427

Kung dadalin pa yung

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004428

Tubig doon

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004429

Ang

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004430

Priority po kasi

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004431

Yung dinadaanan

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004432

Ng tubig

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004433

Nang naturally

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004434

So

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004435

Yung mga na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004436

Identify po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004437

Na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004438

Priority

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004439

Miriam College

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004440

Sa UP

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004441

Yun pong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004442

Rasulayman

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004443

Yung UST

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004444

Spanya area

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004445

Yun po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004446

Priority po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004447

Ang ano po is

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004448

Nag-present po kami sa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004449

Sa UST management

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004450

Although hindi naman po nila

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004451

Isinara yung usapan

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004452

But

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004453

As of this time

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004454

Hindi pa po namin sila

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004455

Nakukonvince na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004456

Pumayag po

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004457

So

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004458

Among all of these

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004459

That you identified

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004460

Ano po yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004461

Matutuloy

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004462

Just Camp Aguinaldo?

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004463

Camp Aguinaldo

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004464

Rasulayman

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004465

Remedios Circle

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004466

Yun pong sa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004467

Harborview

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004468

Sa may CCP

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004469

Yung

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004470

And UP and Miriam

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004471

Yung potential po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004472

Na ano

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004473

In fact

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004474

Kahapon po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004475

Nag-signing kami

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004476

With UP

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004477

Na-identify na po namin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004478

Ang limang sites

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004479

Doon

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004480

Na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004481

Makaka-address po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004482

Ng bahasa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004483

Commonwealth

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004484

CP Garcia

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004485

And sa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004486

Xavierville po

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004487

Okay

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004488

I think we really need to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004489

Look into this

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004490

Itong mga proposal nyo

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004491

Because

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004492

Nakita naman natin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004493

Wala tayong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004494

Abagat lang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004495

Talagang lumulubog na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004496

Yung Metro Manila

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004497

So we really have to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004498

Find solutions

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004499

And I guess

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004500

We really need yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004501

Yung water impounding na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004502

Yung retention

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004503

And yung pong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004504

Quezon City

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004505

For information of

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004506

The Senators

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004507

Nakapagpatayo na po sila

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004508

Ng tatlong maliliit na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004509

Water impounding

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004510

Nasa ilalim po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004511

Ng basketball courts

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004512

And ang report po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004513

Talaga at ang feedback

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004514

Ay napakaganda

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004515

Na yung mga karsadang

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004516

Binabahasa doon sa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004517

Pinagtayuan po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004518

Talaga pong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004519

Hindi tumaas

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004520

Or yung iba pa nga po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004521

Nawala

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004522

So

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004523

I think in so far

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004524

As efficiency

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004525

Talaga pong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004526

Masasabi natin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004527

And

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004528

Medyo huli na nga po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004529

Tayo dahil

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004530

Many many years ago

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004531

Ginagawa na po to

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004532

Sa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004533

Ibang bansa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004534

Tulad po ng

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004535

Singapore

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004536

Netherlands

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004537

And China

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004538

Chairman

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004539

Nagkaroon tayo ng

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004540

Ano no

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004541

Gusto ko lang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004542

Tanawin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004543

Siguro

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004544

Probably most of our

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004545

People

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004546

Tributaries and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004547

River

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004548

In

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004549

Metro Manila

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004550

Are heavily

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004551

Silted

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004552

Kasi for

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004553

Yung time ni Pinoy

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004554

Diba nagkaroon ng

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004555

Ban on dredging

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004556

So

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004576

halos 15 years tayong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004577

walang dredging

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004578

projects eh.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004579

So,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004580

karamihan ng

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004581

ano natin,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004582

by now,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004583

probably are heavy silted.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004584

I also,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004585

we also allotted

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004586

1 billion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004587

for DPWH

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004588

for

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004589

desilting

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004590

and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004591

itong ano,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004592

dredging,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004593

no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004594

Sa atin ba,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004595

sa MMDA,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004596

would you,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004597

did you include

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004598

any budget

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004599

for

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004600

desilting

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004601

or dredging

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004602

operations?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004603

Sa atin may

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004604

interbutaries?

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004605

We requested po.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004606

Pero so far,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004607

wala pong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004608

na ibigay na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004609

pondo.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004610

Kami naman po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004611

ano lang,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004612

just an idea,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004613

which interbutaries

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004614

ang tingin nyo

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004615

kailangan i-dredge?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004616

Of course,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004617

Pasig River,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004618

yung mga tiyahan.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004619

Yes,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004620

yes sir.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004621

Meron naman po kaming

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004622

programa sa MMDA

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004623

na by administration.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004624

May mga ilang

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004625

gamit po kami.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004626

In fact,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004627

naka 71

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004628

waterways na kami

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004629

after,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004630

from

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004631

270

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004632

and more than

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004633

12,000 cubic

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004634

meters na po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004635

yung na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004636

dredge namin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004637

on our own.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004638

At may

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004639

nabigay rin po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004640

budget sa amin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004641

for additional

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004642

equipment

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004643

last year.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004644

I mean,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004645

this year.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004646

Ang problem po namin,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004647

yung mga malalalim po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004648

tulad ng mga

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004649

Pasig River,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004650

Manggahan Floodway,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004651

San Juan River,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004652

kailangan po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004653

ng mga

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004654

specialized equipment

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004655

to do that.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004656

And,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004657

tama po kayo.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004658

Paka,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004659

matagal pong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004660

hindi nagkaroon ng dredging

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004661

at yung siltation po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004662

talagang mataas na.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004663

So, at kailangan po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004664

natin palalimin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004665

dahil mas mabilis na po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004666

kasi nag-overflow.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004667

Parang napansin ko,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004668

mabilis na eh, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004669

Sandali lang,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004670

overflow na ngayon.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004671

So, that's why I asked

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004672

if there,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004673

alam ko,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004674

masikip ang fiscal space

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004675

natin,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004676

if there,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004677

but we really,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004678

mas kawawari naman

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004679

yung managiging

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004680

biktima ng flood eh,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004681

ng flooding eh, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004682

So,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004683

yes, but we just have to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004684

prioritize.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004685

Sige, let us know

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004686

kung anong mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004687

tributaries, no?

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004688

We will definitely

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004689

coordinate.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004690

Siguro Pasig,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004691

Tulyahan,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004692

Pasig, Manggahan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004693

San Juan,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004694

San Francisco,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004695

San Juan Labor,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004696

Paranaque River,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004697

mga heavily silted na po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004698

your honors.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004699

At least,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004700

yung ginawa ng Japan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004701

yung sa Marikina,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004702

medyo maganda siya, no?

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004703

Very effective po.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004704

From Ondoy,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004705

diba, after Ondoy,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004706

maganda na yun, ano?

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004707

Very minimal na po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004708

yung pagbaha doon.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004709

In fact,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004710

parang dalawang baranggays

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004711

na lang po yata,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004712

yung,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004713

na-apektohan this year.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004714

But the rest po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004715

even yung

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004716

Provident,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004717

na lagi pong binabaha,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004718

very minimal daw po yung

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004719

pagbaha.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004720

Tsaka, ever since yun,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004721

Provident,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004722

dekada ng binabaha yun, eh.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004723

Kasi basin yun, eh, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004724

Yes po.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004725

Ngayon daw po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004726

very minimal po yung

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004727

pagbaha doon.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004728

Hindi tumaas.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004729

And,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004730

mabilis pong na-drain

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004731

yung tubig

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004732

kung nagkaroon man po.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004733

Let me, ano,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004734

go to the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004735

pumping stations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004736

kasi dito sa Manila,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004737

marami rito

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004738

yung mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004739

LGPs,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004740

are below

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004741

sea level, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004742

Tulad nung nangyari,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004743

na botas is

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004744

70%

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004745

below

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004746

sea level,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004747

pero na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004748

nagawa ng paraan nila

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004749

then Mayor

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004750

Tobi Tianko,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004751

yung ginaya namin,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004752

na maglagay ng mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004753

pumping stations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004754

in strategic areas,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004755

yung bombastic pump,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004756

it's very, ano,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004757

effective, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004758

And ako,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004759

tanong ko lang doon

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004760

sa pumping stations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004761

natin that are being

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004762

managed and being

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004763

maintained by

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004764

MMDA,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004765

according to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004766

COA findings,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004767

28 out of

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004768

119 pumps

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004769

in large pumping stations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004770

were found

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004771

unserviceable

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004772

under repair

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004773

or for replacement,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004774

no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004775

In our rehabilitation.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004776

So, siguro,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004777

quickly,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004778

kasi kailangan natin to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004779

itong mga pumping stations,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004780

what are the status

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004781

of these pumps,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004782

anong assessment,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004783

repairs have been

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004784

conducted

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004785

to make these pumps

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004786

useful.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004787

I remember last year,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004788

yung malalaking pumping

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004789

stations,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004790

napondo naman natin,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004791

no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004792

Yes,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004793

yung mga sunog-apog

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004794

Manila Bay,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004795

diba?

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004796

Ongoing na po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004797

at pati,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004798

yung po yung

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004799

sa Manila Bay,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004800

Padre Fao.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004801

Ah, ano pala,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004802

ongoing yung repairs?

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004803

Ongoing po.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004804

Na-release po yung budget

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004805

kasi yung sa araw,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004806

last August lang po.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004807

Pero,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004808

we commit to finish it

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004809

before the next

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004810

rainy season,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004811

Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004812

And what are the other

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004813

pumping stations

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004814

that are crucial

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004815

para matangga,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004816

para maiayos din natin?

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004817

Yung mga kailangan po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004818

yung around 12

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004819

na major pumping stations,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004820

number one na po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004821

dyan yung Libertad.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004822

Apat lang,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004823

apat po yung nire-repair

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004824

ng DPWH.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004825

Out of six pumps.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004826

Lagi naman po kami

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004827

nagpa-follow up

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004828

at nagmo-monitor.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004829

Yun nga po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004830

na-discuss namin po ito

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004831

with DBM

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004832

and ES Recto.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004833

Yung po kasing mga

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004834

repairs and rehabilitations

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004835

ng mga pumping stations

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004836

na nasa amin na po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004837

pangangalaga.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004838

Ang budget po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004839

sa paggawa niyan

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004840

ay sa DPWH pa po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004841

napupunta.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004842

So,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004843

sila po yung nagpapagawa.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004844

But,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004845

sabi nga po ni

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004846

Secretary Kim

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004847

at ni ES,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004848

siguro po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004849

starting 2028 daw po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004850

it's proper na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004851

pag-repair and rehabilitation

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004852

ng mga pumping stations

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004853

na nasa amin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004854

ng pangangalaga

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004855

ay dapat po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004856

kami na po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004857

yung mapondohan

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004858

at magpagawa.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004859

The reason I ask

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004860

because sabi ko nga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004861

itong last

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004862

Habagat experience,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004863

ang bilis na lububog

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004864

ng Metro Manila,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004865

no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004866

Diba?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004867

Diba po talaga

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004868

yung buhos ng ulan.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004869

Iba na rin yung volume

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004870

actually ng rainfall.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004871

Yung August po.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004872

Kakaiba na, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004873

Yung volume.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004874

Yes po.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004875

Ilang days lang po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004876

ng ulan,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004877

equivalent na ng

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004878

one month or more.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004879

Ano to?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004880

Parang on-doy levels na ba?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004881

Yung amount of rainfall?

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004882

Yes po.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004883

Yung sa August po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004884

halos ganoon po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004885

na level na yung tubig.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004886

And,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004887

mas mahaba lang po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004888

yung duration

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004889

sa on-doy.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004890

Pero,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004891

in terms of volume po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004892

halos hindi na po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004893

nagkakalayo.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004894

Pero, ano eh,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004895

kasi may mga successful

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004896

na mga flood mitigation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004897

flood control,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004898

flood control projects.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004899

Like sa San Juan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004900

I'll say, no,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004901

na during my

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004902

incumbent as mayor,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004903

as congressman,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004904

nakapaglagay ako ng

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004905

five or six pumping stations,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004906

yung mga river basin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004907

namin,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004908

yung mga basin namin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004909

na barangay,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004910

dating bahayin,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004911

wala na rin.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004912

I think sa Valenzuela,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004913

no,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004914

yung sa index side,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004915

na ayos din nila

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004916

yung side ng Valenzuela.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004917

If,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004918

sabi ko nga,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004919

Sir President,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004920

if implemented properly,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004921

yung flood mitigation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004922

projects can be

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004923

effective, eh,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004924

pag maayos.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004925

Kaya,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004926

I would like to,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004927

as yung MMD,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004928

yung mga crucial,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004929

so,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004930

kaya nakailangan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004931

alam ko,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004932

masigit pang fiscal space,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004933

but,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004934

pagtutulungan natin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004935

with the DVM para...

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004936

Yes,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004937

definitely coordinate

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004938

with your office po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004939

regarding po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004940

yung sa mga requirements po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004941

ng mga crucial na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004942

flood mitigation measures.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004943

Siguro,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004944

before we go,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004945

ano, no,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004946

we'll have second round.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004947

Yung sa ano lang,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004948

yung sa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004949

Quezon City side na lang,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004950

yung mga Talayan area,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004951

Araneta,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004952

ang bilis naman rin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004953

bumaha doon,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004954

so,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004955

what are the,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004956

ano there,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004957

ano ba ang solution dyan?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004958

Ganoon din,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004959

impounding,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004960

pumping stations,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004961

dredging na San Juan?

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004962

Una na po dyan,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004963

siguro,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004964

yung dredging ng San Juan River.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004965

Kasi po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004966

ngayon po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004967

at elevation,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004968

I think,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004969

12 meters pa lang po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004970

nag-overflow na siya.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004971

As compared before na,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004972

nasa 13 meters,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004973

yung,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004974

ano,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004975

maybe because of the

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004976

siltation na rin po.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004977

So,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004978

ano na, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004979

Nag-backflow po.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004980

Halos 1 meter na po yung

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004981

ibinaba sa level

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004982

na,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004983

dapat siya mag-overflow.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004984

So,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004985

yan pong,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004986

backflow na yan,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004987

or overflow,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004988

sa karasada po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004989

napupunta,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004990

yung mga tubig po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004991

inland,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004992

hindi po makalabas.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004993

May mga interventions naman po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004994

na ongoing na ginagawa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004995

ang DPWH,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004996

particularly,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004997

yung isang malaking

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004998

pumping stations,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-004999

sa medyo upland,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005000

para po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005001

wag lahat mapunta sa,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005002

sa San Juan River.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005003

But,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005004

But for information,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005005

San Juan River lang yan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005006

pero,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005007

2 kilometers lang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005008

ang San Juan doon.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005009

Karamihan doon,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005010

Quezon City.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005011

So, yung basura nila,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005012

na tinatanggap lang namin.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005013

So, yun yung kailangan natin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005014

i-dredge.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005015

Opo,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005016

yung mga kailangan na po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005017

talagang linisin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005018

ang San Juan River.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005019

And,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005020

may mga proposals.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005021

So, please include

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005022

the budget for that.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005023

Kasi, hindi lang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005024

Quezon City

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005025

ang napektado rito.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005026

San Juan,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005027

Mandaluyong,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005028

Manila,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005029

Quezon City po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005030

ang kasama po.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005031

Yes, please include

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005032

the dredging.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005033

Sige po,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005034

We coordinate po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005035

Yung ating

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005036

pa-estimate for dredging.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005037

Sige po.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005038

Kasi, long overdue na to.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005039

Yes, yes po.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005040

Medyo matagal na rin po.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005041

Matagal po kasi

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005042

yung naging moratorium.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005043

And,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005044

sa experience po namin,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005045

isa dalawang taon lang

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005046

na hindi mo mabalikan.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005047

Halos bumabalik po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005048

yung siltation.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005049

Your Honors.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005050

Siguro,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005051

just a few questions

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005052

on traffic management.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005053

NCAP implementation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005054

or contact apprehension policy.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005055

NCAP resumed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005056

last October 5.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005057

After the Supreme Court

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005058

lifted its

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005059

temporary restraining order,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005060

how is the MMDA

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005061

aligning its efforts

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005062

by providing

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005063

clear and eligible

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005064

road signages,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005065

markings,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005066

reduced deployment

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005067

of traffic enforcers

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005068

and maintenance

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005069

of streetlights

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005070

to enhance the reinforcement

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005071

of this traffic system?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005072

Tsaka,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005073

kamusta na po

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005074

ang implementation,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005075

Chairman?

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005076

Yung pong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005077

nag-implement recently

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005078

ay yung pong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005079

limang LGUs

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005080

na nag-i-implement po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005081

ng NCAP.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005082

Yung sa amin po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005083

sa MMDA,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005084

noong May last year

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005085

pa po kami

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005086

na re-instate

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005087

yung NCAP.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005088

And,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005089

yun po yung

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005090

maipagmalaki namin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005091

na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005092

so far naman po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005093

sa mahigit

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005094

isang taon na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005095

pag i-re-implement

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005096

namin ng NCAP,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005097

wala naman pong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005098

masyadong naging

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005099

reklamo.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005100

Dahil,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005101

we were able

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005102

to make adjustments

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005103

po doon sa

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005104

aming system,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005105

sa notice,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005106

sa manual review,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005107

sa contest mechanism,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005108

which is

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005109

ina-assist naman po namin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005110

yung mga LGUs now

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005111

na mag-re-re-implement din po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005112

noong kanilang NCAP

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005113

to follow our system.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005114

In fact,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005115

Your Honors,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005116

siguro po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005117

sa dami ng

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005118

nahuli na namin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005119

sa NCAP,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005120

wala pa po sigurong

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005121

50 ang nag-contest.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005122

At ang nag-grant lang po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005123

siguro namin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005124

sa nag-contest

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005125

is around 10.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005126

And most of them

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005127

out of leniency na lang po.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005128

So,

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005129

I can

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005130

say for certain

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005131

na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005132

yung re-implementation

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005133

po namin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005134

ng NCAP

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005135

ay

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005136

maayos po.

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005137

And

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005138

we commit po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005139

sa inyo na

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005140

we will assist

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005141

all the LGUs po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005142

na mag-re-re-implement

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005143

ng NCAP

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005144

para po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005145

masundan yung

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005146

system namin

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005147

at wala rin po

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005148

maging

MMDA Chairman Romando Artes

asr-005149

masyadong problema.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005150

Before I continue,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005151

Senator Imee

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005152

Marcos

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005153

is here

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005154

for her

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005155

second round.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005156

You may now

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005157

avail if you

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005158

are ready.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005159

Sige.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005160

Mabilis lang

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005161

yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005162

kasi may mga

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005163

may mga meeting

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005164

kasi na

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005165

iba eh.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005166

I just wanted to

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005167

inquire

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005168

dito sa

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005169

siyempre

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005170

how

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005171

how do

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005172

you avoid

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005173

the consideration

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005174

that the huge

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005175

increase in

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005176

LGSF

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005177

FALGO

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005178

and

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005179

all the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005180

seven under it

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005181

are not really

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005182

ayuda

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005183

in preparation

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005184

for the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005185

2028 election.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005186

Kasi yun ang

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005187

maliwanag sa lahat.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005188

Ang daming

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005189

ayuda sa

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005190

LGSF eh.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005191

Patong-patong

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005192

nabanggit na

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005193

ni Senator Kiko

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005194

yung malaking

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005195

RISE

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005196

BBM.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005197

Pagkatapos yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005198

medical,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005199

burial,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005200

transport,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005201

food,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005202

educational

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005203

assistance.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005204

Eh,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005205

anong

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005206

anong

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005207

anong

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005208

guidelines

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005209

dyan?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005210

Kasi

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005211

napakalabo

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005212

nitong

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005213

LGSF

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005214

at the rate

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005215

they're going

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005216

kung saan

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005217

saan napupunta

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005218

yung LGSF

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005219

na sa

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005220

pakiwari

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005221

ng napakaraming

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005222

LGU,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005223

there's

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005224

no rhyme

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005225

or reason.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005226

Masyadong

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005227

pinupolitika.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005228

How much

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005229

of these

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005230

allocations

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005231

are really

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005232

intended for

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005233

ayuda as it

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005234

were?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005235

Kasi ang dami eh.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005236

May RISE,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005237

may medical,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005238

may burial.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005239

Eh,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005240

ganun din.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005241

Ganun din

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005242

ang DA,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005243

ganun din yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005244

DSWD,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005245

ganun din yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005246

DOTR.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005247

Patong-patong

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005248

na ito eh.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005249

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005250

Mr. Chair,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005251

for the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005252

guidelines

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005253

ng LGSF,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005254

while we

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005255

acknowledge na

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005256

meron pong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005257

different

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005258

items in the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005259

menu from

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005260

items A to R,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005261

yun pong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005262

aming guidelines

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005263

very explicit

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005264

that priority

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005265

shall be given

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005266

to those with

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005267

a bigger

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005268

economic multiplier

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005269

like

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005270

infrastructure

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005271

projects,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005272

local roads,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005273

farm-to-market

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005274

roads,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005275

hospital buildings,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005276

water supply.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005277

Hindi eh.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005278

With all due

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005279

respect,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005280

ang nakalista dito,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005281

medical,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005282

burial,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005283

transport,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005284

food.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005285

And kasama rin po,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005286

hindi naman

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005287

ganong infray

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005288

ang gamit ng

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005289

LGSF ngayon.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005290

Yes,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005291

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005292

that is one of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005293

the menu items.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005294

So the question

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005295

arrived,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005296

how do we

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005297

prevent the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005298

same medical

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005299

bill isn't

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005300

paid twice or

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005301

thrice?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005302

The same

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005303

burial cost

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005304

is borne

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005305

by three

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005306

agencies.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005307

Baka kalokohan

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005308

na ito,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005309

magiging

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005310

ikalawang beses

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005311

sa LGSF,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005312

tapos may

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005313

DSWD,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005314

may kung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005315

saan-saan pa,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005316

ibang national

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005317

agency program.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005318

Number one,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005319

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005320

for those

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005321

particular

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005322

assistance to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005323

indigent

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005324

individuals,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005325

the guidelines

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005326

set a

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005327

cap

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005328

per

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005329

LGU.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005330

So hindi

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005331

naman po ito

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005332

magagamit more

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005333

than above

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005334

the cap

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005335

wherein

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005336

province and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005337

cities.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005338

Yes,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005339

but the cap

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005340

does not

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005341

prevent it

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005342

from being

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005343

paid twice

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005344

by another

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005345

agency.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005346

Certainly,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005347

Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005348

You have no

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005349

capacity naman

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005350

to check.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005351

At our level

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005352

at the DBM,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005353

you're correct,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005354

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005355

we do not

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005356

have that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005357

exposure to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005358

check,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005359

but we're

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005360

working closely

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005361

with DSWD.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005362

In fact,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005363

I have

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005364

initially met

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005365

with DSWD

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005366

and DOH

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005367

how they

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005368

can also

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005369

streamline

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005370

their systems

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005371

because precisely

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005372

we share

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005373

the same

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005374

observation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005375

with the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005376

good senators

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005377

so we

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005378

want to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005379

prevent

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005380

double-dipping

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005381

as well.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005382

Why isn't

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005383

it simply

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005384

housed under

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005385

DSWD?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005386

Why is it

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005387

DBM?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005388

Because that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005389

is one of

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005390

the menu,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005391

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005392

that is

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005393

authorized.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005394

welfare and

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005395

development.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005396

It has

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005397

nothing to

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005398

do with

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005399

budget

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005400

management.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005401

We submit

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005402

your honor

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005403

because the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005404

DBM stands

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005405

as administrator

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005406

of the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005407

local

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005408

government

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005409

support

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005410

fund.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005411

So if

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005412

Congress and

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005413

the Senate

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005414

deems that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005415

this line

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005416

item should

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005417

be

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005418

lodged

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005419

elsewhere,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005420

we will

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005421

submit to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005422

the wisdom

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005423

of Congress.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005424

Because it

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005425

makes absolutely

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005426

no sense.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005427

In the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005428

meantime,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005429

I will

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005430

simply require

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005431

that the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005432

amounts allocated

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005433

already and

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005434

the assistance

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005435

delivered and

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005436

the LGU

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005437

and assistance

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005438

category,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005439

bigyan lang kami

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005440

ng listahan

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005441

to prove

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005442

what you are

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005443

saying,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005444

that this

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005445

is not

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005446

politicized

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005447

and overly

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005448

guided by

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005449

whim and

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005450

caprice.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005451

Certainly,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005452

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005453

and again,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005454

we would

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005455

reiterate that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005456

the same

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005457

list is

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005458

now available

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005459

through the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005460

DBM Compass,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005461

downloadable by

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005462

everybody,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005463

Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005464

But we will

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005465

submit a

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005466

separate list

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005467

to your

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005468

office.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005469

Yes, it doesn't have the detail that we require.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005470

Your website doesn't have the detail that we require,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005471

which are the amounts, the LGU, what category.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005472

Wala kasi dun eh.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005473

Oh, that is in DBM Compass.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005474

We can guide your office, Your Honor, to generate that list.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005475

And we will submit a separate list, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005476

Yes, I also wanted to inquire about the growth equity fund.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005477

It appears that the 2025 guidelines were issued only

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005478

the year after so that it was only on February of 2026

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005479

that the guidelines covering 2025 and 2026 were issued

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005480

such that obligations reached 0.4% of the 2025 appropriation

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005481

and 1.5% of the 2026 appropriation.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005482

This fund was intended for disadvantaged LGUs

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005483

at mas lalo silang nadi-disadvantage

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005484

kapag napakatagal ninyo maglabas ng guideline.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005485

Kinawawa yung mga kawawang-kawawa na.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005486

Diba, ganun ang nangyari dyan.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005487

Ang requirements continue to prevent implementation

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005488

and 0.4% could not be more dismal.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005489

No, Secretary.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005490

We're not trying to blame you for what happened in the past

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005491

but you realize, of course, that there's a proposed 10.3 billion for 2027

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005492

and we don't understand now what requirements are going to be necessary

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005493

for implementation.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005494

Otherwise, we'll be stuck at less than 1% implementation.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005495

Well, we note the observation of the good senator

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005496

on the late release of guidelines for 2025 and 2026

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005497

and we joined the observation that these funds are actually

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005498

intended for disadvantaged LGUs who are 4th and 5th class.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005499

So, what we can assure the committee is that

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005500

this should not happen as well again in 2027, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005501

so that LGUs...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005502

How to do that?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005503

So that the guidelines can be issued...

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005504

Are the guidelines already in place?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005505

We have the guidelines.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005506

But these are the old ones.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005507

Baka baguhin para sa 2027.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005508

Mag-iintay na naman ang 2028.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005509

Pambihira naman.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005510

If there will be no substantial changes,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005511

and other mandates from Congress,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005512

certainly, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005513

we can issue the guidelines as early as January.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005514

Without power, you can hardly blame Congress.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005515

We will, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005516

Napasa na yung batas niyan eh.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005517

We assure the committee, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005518

that the guidelines will be released by January

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005519

as soon as the GAA is passed.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005520

O, kasi nakakaawa itong nangyari.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005521

Antay sila ng antay.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005522

Sila na nga yung pinakamahirap.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005523

Mas lalo silang kinawawa.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005524

Huwag po kayong mag-alala, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005525

sa DBM.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005526

Bawal po ang mabagal

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005527

ngayon.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005528

Sure ka, ha?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005529

Okay.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005530

Bakit yung DBM-OSEC mismo?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005531

Our vacancies contributing to delays

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005532

in fund releases and oversight.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005533

The briefer reports 465 vacancies

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005534

out of 1,762 permanent positions

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005535

across DBM, OSEC, and GPP-BTSO,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005536

which means you have a vacancy rate of 26.4%.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005537

Bakit dyan natatagalan itong guidelines at iba pa?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005538

How many are responsible for budget evaluation?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005539

Yung tinatanong ng ating chairman

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005540

ng fund release monitoring

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005541

and what prevents these positions

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005542

from being filled?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005543

26.4% is a very large unfilled proportion.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005544

Kuha-kuha nyo po, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005545

ang aking same observation.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005546

At isa po ito sa ating talagang tinutukan.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005547

We got to the bottom line of this

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005548

at isa po sa naging change

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005549

is meron po kasi

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005550

internal HR guidelines

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005551

that we have recently amended

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005552

to facilitate us to fast-track hiring.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005553

So hindi po ibig sabihin

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005554

we amended the guidelines.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005555

We are cutting corners

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005556

para po makapag-hire ng hindi karapat dapat

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005557

but we just eliminated

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005558

probably duplicative and unnecessary processes.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005559

And in fact, if I may report,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005560

over the last two months,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005561

hindi po kami tumitigil ngayon

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005562

sa pag-assign ng appointments

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005563

at yung aming HRMPSB

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005564

led by ASIC Dante De Chavez

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005565

ay halos every week pong may interview

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005566

just to bridge this gap on unfilled.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005567

Dahil tama po kayo.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005568

Yung isa pong nababakante,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005569

medyo matagal po namin napapalitan

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005570

kapag may nagre-retiro,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005571

it also affects our capacity

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005572

to perform our functions.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005573

So we assured the committee

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005574

na ito pong 27%.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005575

Hindi na po ito 27% ngayon.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005576

And we will furnish the committee

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005577

with updated figures

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005578

dahil ako po ay ilang linggo na pong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005579

pumipirma ng appointments

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005580

just recently.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005581

At marami-rami na rin

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005582

ang kasama mong bata.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005583

Otherwise, puros lola na lang kami

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005584

kasama ng BBM.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005585

Huwag po kayong mag-alala.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005586

Mabilis po yung mga tita at tita ko

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005587

na kasama ngayon.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005588

Alright.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005589

Thank you.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005590

At ang BBM OSEC...

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005591

Because age doesn't matter, Your Honor.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005592

Nako, ha?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005593

Ang BBM OSEC, napansin ko rin,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005594

nag-propose kayo ng requirements

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005595

na BBM itself subsequently excluded.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005596

Originally, you asked for 5.377 billion

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005597

and you applied for it.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005598

Appropriations for OSEC.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005599

But only 2.855 billion

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005600

was approved ng sarili nyo.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005601

Wala, natawa lang ako.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005602

Nearly half of your request

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005603

and then 13%

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005604

lower pa than your

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005605

2026, which requirements

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005606

were excluded. And why were they proposed

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005607

if you're not meeting your own

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005608

criteria pala?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005609

Yun po yung ginawa namin na revisiting

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005610

Your Honor ng aming mga

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005611

requirements. Yung iba po kasi dito,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005612

probably expansion ng mga

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005613

subscription. So our

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005614

decision is to step back and reassess

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005615

kung ito pang mga subscription na to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005616

ay kailangan pa at talagang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005617

nakapagbibigay sa atin ng tamang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005618

tools to guide us in the budget management

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005619

process. At tama po kayo,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005620

nabangkit nyo po kanina, mayroon pa nga po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005621

kaming continuing. So the decision was

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005622

instead of asking for more,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005623

utilize first what we have.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005624

Okay. So perhaps you can identify

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005625

kasi medyo good looking kapag

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005626

nabawasan na, no?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005627

Identify the essential services

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005628

or committed reforms

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005629

that would be delayed or scaled

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005630

down. Kasi you clearly scaled down from

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005631

the original proposal. We'd like to know

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005632

what they are. At least to your

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005633

credit, nakikibaka

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005634

kayo sa paghigpit ng

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005635

sinturon.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005635-split-2

Clearly, Your Honor, wala po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005636

kaming programa na hindi matutuloy

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005637

or madidiscontinue. As we have

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005638

said, marami pa nga po kaming nakalatag

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005639

ngayon na bagong digital

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005640

transformation efforts kahit po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005641

bumaba yung aming budget dahil ito

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005642

po ay aming binoo ng hindi po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005643

nangangailangan ng additional budget.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005644

Kanina medyo nabanggit na rin to

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005645

ni Senate President

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005646

Sherwin. Ito yung barangay

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005647

development program ng NTF-ELCAC

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005648

na ine-expand na naman yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005649

coverage samantalang yung

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005650

implementation delay. Say labis-labis

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005651

ano, nasa 3.4%

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005652

lamang yung release

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005653

pero pinalawak

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005654

pa. Kaya eto na naman

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005655

yung question. Ang stricto-stricto

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005656

ng DBM sa budget ng iba,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005657

pag hindi na i-implement

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005658

pero yung sa inyo, tulu

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005659

yung pinapalawak, e hindi naman

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005660

i-implement din. Ang implementation

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005661

rate ninyo dito e napakababa

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005662

diba? Nasa 3.4%

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005663

lang dito sa listahan ko.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005664

Your Honor, ito pong SBDP

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005665

ng NTF-ELCAC as we have mentioned

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005666

earlier, unique barangay

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005667

po ito. So meron lang po kaming

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005668

tinatapos na universe na pinadala

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005669

po sa amin ng NTF-ELCAC.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005670

Oo, sinabi nga ninyo sa Senate President.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005671

Ito pong 1,948 na

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005672

proposed for 2027 ay hindi

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005673

po similar barangays na

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005674

naka-receive po. Sige, bigay na lang

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005675

sa amin ng listahan para maintindihan

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005676

namin. At saka yung PDIC,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005677

yung restoration,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005678

na tanong na rin yan kanina

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005679

tungkol sa 1A, 1B.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005680

So no release if

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005681

no excess income.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005682

Ang ibig sabihin,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005683

the return of funds

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005684

is not going to happen na because

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005685

the revenues are completely uncertain.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005686

Is that correct?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005687

Even in the NEP version naman po,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005688

ang talagang condition niya is kung hindi po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005689

makakuha ng excess, doon lamang po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005690

magti-trigger yung release ng

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005691

PDIC or not.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005691-split-2

That's right.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005692

So,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005693

the 2027 NEP places

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005694

57 billion for restoring

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005695

PDIC under the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005696

UN program. So,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005697

what was previously remitted

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005698

to the Treasury

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005699

is 104 billion.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005700

So clearly,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005701

it will have to depend on excess

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005702

or new revenues na

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005703

hindi na mangyayari. Ganun ba yun?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005704

And apart from it being contingent

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005705

to excess, Your Honor, ito po ay

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005706

inilagay po natin sa unprogrammed

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005707

bilang standby lang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005708

din naman po kung sakaling magkaroon po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005709

ng definitive order on

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005710

the restoration of the PDIC

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005711

because as far as we are concerned,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005712

yung PhilHealth po ang merong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005713

definitive order which we have complied with.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005714

Yun na nga, pero the question

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005715

also arises, bakit daw conditional

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005716

to? Hindi ba dapat?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005717

At programmed appropriation?

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005718

Kasi after all,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005719

this is insurance,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005720

deposit insurance guarantees.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005721

Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005722

yun nga po, dahil wala pa pong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005723

definitive final order

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005724

on us requiring

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005725

the executive to revert it, kaya po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005726

nilodge muna siya under unprogrammed appropriations.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005727

I think

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005728

that will be all until we get further

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005729

guidance on the

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005730

Supreme Court decision.

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005731

Lahat tayo nag-aaral,

Senator Imee R. Marcos

asr-005732

sabay-sabay at magtulungan na lamang.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005733

Maraming salamat.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005734

Thank you, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005735

Before we

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005736

end,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005737

thank you, Senator Marcos.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005738

Just like meron lang sigurong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005739

gusto itanong sa DBM Secretary

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005740

natin about Sulu,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005741

yung transition, kasi

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005742

since they opted out of the BARM,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005743

may mga services silang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005744

ano, no,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005745

nangambang maputol,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005746

no, yung DepEd, yung DOH.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005747

So, we allotted about

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005748

2 billion.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005749

They need about 2 billion from DOH

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005750

para yung kailangan services will not be

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005751

will not be

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005752

affected. And sa DepEd,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005753

we do not have yet the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005754

amount, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005755

So,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005756

my question is,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005757

how do we go about this, kaya

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005758

Secretary Kim,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005759

and also

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005760

the other,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005761

services, no, other departments

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005762

and agencies that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005763

need, para naman hindi

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005764

maputol yung servisyo,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005765

doon sa ating mga kababayan po sa Sulu,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005766

no, kasi nga nawala sila sa BARM?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005767

Actually, Your Honor, Mr.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005768

Chair, in our deliberation

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005769

for the 2027

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005770

NEP,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005771

malino po na nasa priority consideration

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005772

yung operating requirements for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005773

the Sulu transition. So, for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005774

most agencies, nakasama po yan sa

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005775

kanilang regular,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005776

operating requirements, and we have

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005777

been creating the positions necessary

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005778

to facilitate the transition.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005779

The latest of which, yun pong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005780

793 positions

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005781

para sa DOH,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005782

para po doon sa mga provincial

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005783

and district hospitals.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005784

Ang natitira na nga lang po, actually, we even

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005785

created

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005786

more than 5,000 positions

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005787

for DepEd, para po doon sa mga

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005788

teachers, at lahat naman po ito

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005789

once ma-fill upon source from the MPBF.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005790

Ang amin pong

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005791

ina-iron out na lang po ngayon, Mr. Chair,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005792

ang natitira, would be

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005793

the operating requirements

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005794

for the provincial

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005795

and the district hospitals.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005796

And that remains to be the

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005797

un-ticked na lang po sa aming

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005798

checkbox when it comes to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005799

Sulu transition. But we are

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005800

exploring all the possible means

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005801

para po masigurado na wala

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005802

pong magiging pagtigil sa servisyo

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005803

po sa ating mga kababayan sa Sulu.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005804

Thank you for that, Secretary

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-005805

Kim De Leon.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005806

Mr. Chairman, just a few more

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005807

items.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005808

To Secretary, tsaka sa

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005809

PSDBM, nakita ko si

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005810

kanina may tao dyan sa

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005811

PSDBM.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005812

Oo.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005813

Kasi bumalik ulit yung issue

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005814

ng Pharmally.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005815

And we all know PSDBM was

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005816

at the center of that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005817

controversy. And yet,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005818

at the same time,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005819

we also investigated that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005820

yung DepEd laptop,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005821

issue na PSDBM

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005822

rin ang

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005823

naging

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005824

main character on

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005825

that controversy.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005826

So, I want to ask,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005827

ang

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005828

original mandate ng PSDBM

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005829

is common use

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005830

supplies. Pero pumasok siya

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005831

sa fire truck, pumasok siya sa laptop,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005832

pumasok sa mga ano.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005833

At

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005834

nagkaroon ng ganitong mga issues. So, I want

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005835

to ask, Secretary,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005836

first, anong reforms?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005837

In fact, merong mga

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005838

calls to abolish PSDBM

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005839

and allow the agencies to do

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005840

their own procurement. So, anong

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005841

reforms? Number two, anong benefit?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005842

And then, number three,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005843

did we go back to the original mandate

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005844

of PSDBM na

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005845

common use supplies lang ang kanyang binibili?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005846

Certainly, Mr. Senate

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005847

President, Mr. Chair, what PSDBM

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005848

is now actually doing is

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005849

back to its basic mandate.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005850

Common use supply and equipment,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005851

very extreme lang po, talagang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005852

subject to, they even require

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005853

my clearance if they will need to

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005854

accept other

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005855

activities for them

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005856

to act as procuring agents. So, very

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005857

seldom na po nilang ginagawa yan ngayon.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005858

Kasi, nagbumibili pa

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005859

ng fire trucks eh.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005859-split-2

That is correct.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005860

So, wala nang ganon?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005860-split-2

Wala po ngayon.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005861

They were even engaged, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005862

as procurement agent.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005863

When I was still in DOTR,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005864

also a time. So, ngayon po, talagang

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005865

dahil ang pinagtutuunan po natin

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005866

ng attention is do what they do

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005867

best, meaning procuring common

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005868

use supply. Dahil even until now, we're

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005869

looking at stock availability.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005870

So, dahil with the new mandate

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005871

of the New Government Procurement Act,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005872

hindi lang po national government agencies

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005873

ang required na ngayong bumili sa

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005874

PS, so even local government units,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005875

state universities, and colleges.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005876

So, tinututukan po natin yung

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005877

stock availability. That leads me

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005878

to the benefit, Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005879

Kaya naman po binuo ang PS

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005880

because of the economies of scale for

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005881

common use supply.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005882

That if we are able to buy in bulk, we can get prices at a much lower competitive price. At doon naman po talaga nakikita yung benefit ng PS. We're looking at a difference of about 20-30% ng market price for our common use supplies.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005883

And right now with e-marketplace, categorized na rin po sa nabibili sa PS, even our motor vehicles, even our email subscription.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005884

So we can now negotiate much lower prices from our fulfillers dahil nga po we can guarantee the procurement for the entire bureaucracy.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005885

Magkano ang savings ngayon na de-generate for common use supplies?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005886

On the average lang.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005887

I just have the figures about 20-30% on the average but on the nominal, maybe I would ask ED Gen your honor to provide the figures.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005888

Kasi before nga alam ko na nagiging ano siya, yung procuring agent ng iba-ibang ahensya.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005889

Right now your honor, hindi na po siya pwedeng gawing parking lot.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005890

O yan, kasi isa pa yan. Para mapakita nila na obligated na, nagagamit na yung pondo.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005891

Pinaparking.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005892

Pinaparking nila dyan or doon sa Philippine International Trading Corporation, PITC.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005893

So yan, dalawang paborito ng mga agencies to window dress their financials.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005894

So okay, it's good to hear. At least nakaka-save tayo ng 20% or more or so.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005895

My next question, Secretary, will be on the NTA.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005896

Malaki ang NTA natin, 1.3 trillion.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005897

1.3 trillion out of the 7.2 trillion, so almost a seventh na sa NTA.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005898

And suspended pa rin yung devolution, diba?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005899

We have released, your honor, the president has issued EO 103, resuming the process of full devolution.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005900

Under the EO po, the transition period is extended.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005901

2027 for provinces and cities.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005902

2028 for... No, no.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005903

2027 for cities, 2028 for provinces and municipalities, your honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005904

Okay. And ano yung mga... Can you give us just a very, ano lang, snapshot of what items will be devolved?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005905

So during the last meeting of the Committee on Devolution, the sentiment, Mr. Senate President, was...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005906

Because initially, there's an expanded list apart from what was identified in the local government code.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005907

So the IRR now actually gives priority first on what was explicitly mentioned under the local government code.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005908

And then yung Annex B ngayon, yun po yung mga pwede pa on top of the LGU, but subject to the capacity of the local government unit concerned.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005909

So we're looking at going back again to other devolved functions like AGRI, highlighting as well their role on school buildings, local roads, among others.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005910

So ano yung mga nasa expanded list? Can you give us...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005911

Just a snapshot.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005912

Yung nasa local government code, given na yan eh.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005913

Alam na ni Senator, ni Chairman at Senator JV yan dahil nag-mayor kami.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005914

But yung expanded list.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005915

And the reason why I'm asking, because every year tataas itong NTA natin eh.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005916

Yes, your honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005917

And to our total budget, it's about a seventh already.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005918

So malaki talaga ang binibigay natin sa local government.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005919

So example, your honor, of the suggested...

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005920

Ito yung mga nasa Annex B.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005921

So this would include mini hydroelectric projects for provinces and cities,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005922

inter-municipal telecommunication services for provinces,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005923

transportation facilities for provinces, cities, and municipalities,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005924

tourism facilities.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005925

Alam mo, Secretary, ako I suggest, we should give, we should devolve functions that are...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005926

directly, that is directly felt by our constituents.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005927

I'll give you a case in point.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005928

But this needs a law and some further study.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005929

Fire.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005930

Di ba?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005931

Ang traffic enforcers, local government.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005932

Di ba?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005933

Ang building inspectors, local government.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005934

Ako nakikita ko, fire, pwede i-devolve yan.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005935

Because it responds directly to...

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005936

the local government needs.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005937

I know it needs a law, kasi may sariling law yan.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005938

But these are things that we can study.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005939

So, because, in fact, kagaya kami sa Valenzuela,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005940

ang bumibili ng fire truck kami.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005941

It's not the BFP because of lack of funds.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005942

Ang BFP nilang naiiwan sa kanila yung tao.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005943

But in terms of services felt by our constituents,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005944

especially kung may sunog,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005945

pag nagkakasunog,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005946

ang tinatawag,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005947

tinatawagan naman, mayor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005948

So, these are the things that we can study,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005949

that we can devolve.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005950

Actually, isa rin po pala siya, your honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005951

sa suggested items, sa Annex B.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005952

Ako, kung ako mayor,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005953

I would embrace that

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005954

para talagang pagdating sa serbisyo,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005955

isa na lang yung kausap.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005956

Anyway, your honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005957

in the lens of optimization,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005958

tama rin po kayo na even fire gets a share

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005959

from the business taxes.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005960

That's why they're shared from fire code fees.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005961

So, maganda pong tignan yun

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005962

kung i-co-consider nyo po

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005963

ang legislation to that.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005964

Yes.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005965

In fact, mayroon rin proposal kami

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005966

na pati yung fire permit

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005967

should be devolved to local governments.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005968

Kasi ngayon,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005969

kino-collect ng local governments,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005970

inire-remit pa sa fire.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005971

So, may transfers eh.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005972

Kung lahat nasa local government na lang,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005973

total, you can capacitate the local government.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005974

Like I said,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005975

the building,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005976

ang building,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005977

yung mga building permits,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005978

si local government nag-i-issue yan eh.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005979

So, regardless of you're building a house

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005980

or you're building a 20-story building,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005981

local governments ang nag-i-issue ng building permit.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005982

So, in other words,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005983

it's nothing new to local governments.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005984

Things that we can study.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005985

I'm just putting that on the table.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005986

But nakikita ko,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005987

we're forecasting that yung NTA

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005988

will eat up a huge chunk of our appropriations.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005989

It grew faster than the budget itself,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005990

Your Honor.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005991

NTA increased by about 11 to 12.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-005992

The budget only grew by 6.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005993

Yes.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005994

Oo.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005995

Nakita nga namin dito.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005996

Yeah, it's about 11%.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005997

So,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005998

pag lumalaki yung share ng local governments,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-005999

we'll devolve some of the functions

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006000

para maging responsive sila.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006001

Yun naman gusto natin, responsive.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006002

Next will be,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006003

tinitignan ko rin yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006004

MPBF in pension.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006005

And I know this is a big debate

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006006

on how to come up with a sustainable

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006007

pension scheme for the military.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006008

Because,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006009

first, we have to take care of our military personnel.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006010

We have to give them what's due to them.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006011

But lahat yan kinukuha sa GAA

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006012

under the MPBF account.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006013

Sorry, the PGF account.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006014

Magkano?

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006015

Anong ngayon ang military components sa PGF?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006016

In the 2027 NEP, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006017

those attributable to military and uniform personnel,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006018

that's 154.208 billion.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006019

Out of the 180?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006020

That is correct, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006021

And then every year, lumalaki yan, ano?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006022

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006023

Anong average growth ng

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006024

military component ng PGF?

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006025

For 2025,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006026

the actual release is

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006027

124

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006028

for military.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006029

And then we anticipate it at about

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006030

145 in

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006031

2026.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006032

So, about 10%, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006033

And every time tumataas ang

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006034

sweldo natin, ang base pay natin

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006035

across the government,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006036

tumataas rin yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006037

military.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006038

Because of the indexation, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006039

Because of the indexation, alright.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006040

And I know malaking

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006041

usapan rin ito dito, in fact,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006042

mahabang usapan ito, pabalik-balik,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006043

yung gagawa ng

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006044

sustainable pension

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006045

or pension for the military.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006046

But I think that is

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006047

a study

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006048

that we need to conduct

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006049

very thoroughly.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006050

Kasi may impact rin yan on recruitment.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006051

So, yun ang pinag-aaralan.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006052

But just submit to the committee

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006053

yung projected

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006054

PGF to include the

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006055

military component.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006056

We will submit, Your Honor.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006057

Submit na lang. We're studying this very carefully

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006058

kasi malaki yung kanyang

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006059

increase every year.

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006060

We will submit, Your Honor,

Acting DBM Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

asr-006061

Mr. Chairman.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006062

Natanong na kanina ni

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006063

Senator Aimee yung

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006064

Growth Equity Fund. So,

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006065

that's it for me, Mr. Chairman.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006066

Thank you. Thank you very much, Secretary.

Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian

asr-006067

Maraming salamat.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006068

Thank you, our Senate President.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006069

With that,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006070

I guess that's about it.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006071

We will just submit some of the other questions

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006072

and concerns

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006073

to the Department

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006074

and the other agencies.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006075

Please prepare na lang po

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006076

for plenary

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006077

discussion. Kaya we will just submit

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006078

the other questions, concerns.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006079

Again, the committee chair would like

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006080

to thank everyone, especially our

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006081

esteemed resource persons led by our Secretary

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006082

Kim De Leon for actively

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006083

participating in this

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006084

discussions today. We'll just

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006085

submit the rest of our questions again

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006086

for the appropriate answers

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-006087

in preparation, again, for the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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plenary. There being no other further

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questions, the budget of the Department

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and management and its

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attached agencies, lump sum

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funds, budgetary support to

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government corporations, others,

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and allocation to local

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government units are

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deemed submitted for the plenary's

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consideration subject to the

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discussion and the submission of the documents requested.

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This briefing is hereby suspended. Congratulations. Thank you very much, everyone.