WEBVTT asr-000049 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:26.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: [unclear] natin ngayon ang budget ng Department of Environment and Natural Resources para sa susunod na taon. At kasama diyan ay ang paghahanda natin sa napakalaking panganib na haharapin ng ating bansa, ang banta ng Super El Ni?o. asr-000050 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:31.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ngayon pa lang, ramdam na natin ang epekto nito. asr-000051 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:37.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At inaasahan na titindi ang hagupit nito sa mga susunod na buwan o hanggang sa unang bahagi ng 2027. asr-000052 00:11:38.140 --> 00:11:44.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Babala ng mga eksperto, ito ang pinakamalalang El Niño sa nakalipas na limampung taon. asr-000053 00:11:45.060 --> 00:11:49.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Iyan ang nakaambang banta sa ating ekonomiya at kinabukasan ng bansa. asr-000054 00:11:50.520 --> 00:11:53.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hindi pwedeng taong bayan lang ang mag-a-adjust. asr-000055 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:57.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: DENR must step up to an historic challenge. asr-000056 00:11:57.700 --> 00:12:05.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: It will be a critical and leading agency in the government's response to this looming risk of widespread drought. asr-000057 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:13.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: The agency's work will have real, much-felt implications on the economy, health, and daily living conditions of millions. asr-000058 00:12:14.920 --> 00:12:19.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Nasa pangangasiwan ng DENR ang mga ahensyang may kinalaman sa tubig. asr-000059 00:12:20.140 --> 00:12:26.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At wala pa mga El Niño, kabikabila na ang mga reklamo ng mga residente sa ilang bahagi ng bansa asr-000060 00:12:26.540 --> 00:12:32.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dahil walang tubig sa gripo o kung kaya naman ay mayroon, marumi naman. asr-000061 00:12:33.800 --> 00:12:41.620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Filipino people expect agility in the response and fitness for purpose of the budget of frontline agencies such as the DENR. asr-000062 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:44.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Its budget should reflect this. asr-000063 00:12:44.020 --> 00:12:53.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Dapat buhusan ng pondo ang paghahanda at emergency response sa paparating na tagtuyot para maibsan ang dagok nito sa bawat Pilipino. asr-000064 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:56.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Dapat pondohan ang mga small water impoundment asr-000065 00:12:56.540 --> 00:13:02.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: systems na magsisilbing tagasalo ng tubig-ulan para magamit sa tagtuyot. asr-000066 00:13:03.700 --> 00:13:10.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Gamitin ang mga available technology tulad ng atmospheric water stations ng Local Water Utilities Administration asr-000067 00:13:10.780 --> 00:13:15.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para makahanap ng ibang pagkukuna ng maiinum na tubig. asr-000068 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:24.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At higit sa lahat ang pagsuporta sa nature-based solutions para protektahan at pasaganahin ang ating mga ecosystem asr-000069 00:13:24.400 --> 00:13:26.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: laban sa mga palalangkot. asr-000070 00:13:26.540 --> 00:13:56.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Alinsunod din sa pagsusulong ng budget transparency na sinimulan ni Senate President Sherwin noong siya ay Finance Chair at pinagpapatuloy ngayon ni Chair JV, inimbitahan namin ang representatives ng Civil Society Organizations para makinig at maghanda ng kanilang mga mungkahi at pananaw. Sa unang tingin pa lang, dapat ayusin ang budget ng DENR para gawin itong handa na tugunan ang epekto ng El Ni?o. asr-000071 00:13:56.540 --> 00:14:11.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa kabila ng limitadong fiscal space, may mga oportunidad sa General Appropriations Bill na pwede nating mapakinabangan para mas mapalakas ang paghahanda at pagkilo sa susunod na taon. asr-000072 00:14:12.020 --> 00:14:20.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Beyond numbers, we need to know what we can do, can't do, and should do to avoid a nationwide crisis. asr-000073 00:14:21.060 --> 00:14:25.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: The Chair acknowledges the presence of the Minority Leader, Sen. Alan Cayetano. asr-000074 00:14:26.540 --> 00:14:28.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you for your presence. asr-000075 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:34.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Would you like to make any opening statement, Mayno, before I ask the ComSec to recognize our resource persons? asr-000076 00:14:34.580 --> 00:14:35.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you very much, Madam Chair. asr-000077 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:39.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And I'd just like to second not only your statement today. asr-000078 00:14:39.500 --> 00:14:46.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You've been consistent since we were in Congress together about the importance of the environment. asr-000079 00:14:46.620 --> 00:14:50.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And of course, we're going to fully discuss that today and in the plenary. asr-000080 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:54.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Maybe my one cent lang sa opening is, Sen. asr-000081 00:14:54.380 --> 00:15:00.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But Sunny Angara said that yung cluster ng education is doing pretty well. asr-000082 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:01.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa cabinet. And I'm happy asr-000083 00:15:01.920 --> 00:15:03.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that an old hand in DNR, asr-000084 00:15:03.880 --> 00:15:05.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: not an old person, but an old hand asr-000085 00:15:05.760 --> 00:15:07.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: coming, you know, asr-000086 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:09.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: being promoted from asr-000087 00:15:09.940 --> 00:15:10.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the ranks is there. asr-000088 00:15:11.580 --> 00:15:13.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think for the future, talagang yung asr-000089 00:15:13.800 --> 00:15:15.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: education eh. So baka yung asr-000090 00:15:15.980 --> 00:15:17.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: environment asr-000091 00:15:17.920 --> 00:15:19.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and ecology sa asr-000092 00:15:19.180 --> 00:15:21.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: curriculum ng elementary to high school. asr-000093 00:15:21.800 --> 00:15:23.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi if you remember when we were asr-000094 00:15:23.660 --> 00:15:25.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: college or asr-000095 00:15:25.560 --> 00:15:27.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: started working, asr-000096 00:15:27.980 --> 00:15:29.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kilalang-kilala yung sa Palawan nun, asr-000097 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:31.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung kay Mayor Hagedorn, asr-000098 00:15:31.420 --> 00:15:32.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi pag nagtapon ka asr-000099 00:15:32.640 --> 00:15:35.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng upos ng sigarilyo or asr-000100 00:15:35.780 --> 00:15:37.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung asr-000101 00:15:37.820 --> 00:15:39.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: chewing gum or whatever, asr-000102 00:15:39.860 --> 00:15:41.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bata yung lalapit sa'yo at asr-000103 00:15:41.340 --> 00:15:43.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sasabihin, Palawan to or Puerto asr-000104 00:15:43.280 --> 00:15:45.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Princesa to, wag ka magtapon asr-000105 00:15:45.700 --> 00:15:46.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dito eh. So asr-000106 00:15:46.860 --> 00:15:49.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I can bring up anything now, the asr-000107 00:15:49.180 --> 00:15:51.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sierra Madre, I can bring up Laguna Lake, asr-000108 00:15:51.380 --> 00:15:52.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I can bring up, but asr-000109 00:15:52.660 --> 00:15:55.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 10, 15, 20 years from now, I think asr-000110 00:15:55.460 --> 00:15:57.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what will make an impact is not only asr-000111 00:15:57.460 --> 00:15:59.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the strict enforcement asr-000112 00:15:59.300 --> 00:16:01.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of the law, but the education eh. asr-000113 00:16:01.380 --> 00:16:03.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Getting talaga into every Filipino. asr-000114 00:16:03.260 --> 00:16:05.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So yun lang siguro ang ipapakiusap ko asr-000115 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kay Secretary, yung ma-work asr-000116 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:09.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: out with Sec Sonny and maybe CHED asr-000117 00:16:09.060 --> 00:16:11.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na talagang madikdik sa asr-000118 00:16:11.280 --> 00:16:13.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: utak ng ating next generation asr-000119 00:16:13.300 --> 00:16:15.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that you protect asr-000120 00:16:15.420 --> 00:16:17.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the environment, then the environment protects asr-000121 00:16:17.420 --> 00:16:18.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you. Thank you very much, Madam Chair. asr-000122 00:16:19.660 --> 00:16:20.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Marami salamat din, Mayno. asr-000123 00:16:21.920 --> 00:16:23.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ComSec, pakikilalaanin asr-000124 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:25.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung mga resource persons natin para ngayon. asr-000125 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:27.140 Committee Secretary: Good afternoon. asr-000126 00:16:27.700 --> 00:16:29.260 Committee Secretary: The Committee on Finance subcommittee, asr-000127 00:16:29.300 --> 00:16:31.080 Committee Secretary: we would like to acknowledge the presence asr-000128 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:32.920 Committee Secretary: of our distinguished guests, namely asr-000129 00:16:32.920 --> 00:16:35.500 Committee Secretary: from the Department asr-000130 00:16:35.500 --> 00:16:37.180 Committee Secretary: of Environment and Natural Resources, asr-000131 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:39.000 Committee Secretary: Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna, asr-000132 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:41.400 Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Jonas asr-000133 00:16:41.400 --> 00:16:43.740 Committee Secretary: R. Leones, Undersecretary asr-000134 00:16:43.740 --> 00:16:45.320 Committee Secretary: Annalisa Revueltate, asr-000135 00:16:46.220 --> 00:16:47.180 Committee Secretary: Undersecretary asr-000136 00:16:47.180 --> 00:16:49.460 Committee Secretary: Jocelyn Marcos Ragada, asr-000137 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:51.700 Committee Secretary: Undersecretary asr-000138 00:16:51.700 --> 00:16:53.400 Committee Secretary: Ignatius Loyola A. Rodriguez, asr-000139 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:55.740 Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary asr-000140 00:16:55.740 --> 00:16:57.040 Committee Secretary: Norlito A. Eneran, asr-000141 00:16:57.040 --> 00:16:58.880 Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Michael asr-000142 00:16:58.880 --> 00:17:01.300 Committee Secretary: V. Cabalda, Assistant Secretary asr-000143 00:17:01.300 --> 00:17:02.540 Committee Secretary: Ricky A. Arzadon, asr-000144 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:05.260 Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Hiro V. Masuda, asr-000145 00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:07.660 Committee Secretary: Engineer Maria asr-000146 00:17:07.660 --> 00:17:08.780 Committee Secretary: Dorica Nazipe, asr-000147 00:17:10.040 --> 00:17:11.620 Committee Secretary: from the Bureau asr-000148 00:17:11.620 --> 00:17:13.300 Committee Secretary: Directors, we have Director Arturo asr-000149 00:17:13.300 --> 00:17:14.820 Committee Secretary: E. Padriquela, asr-000150 00:17:16.320 --> 00:17:17.120 Committee Secretary: Assistant Director asr-000151 00:17:17.120 --> 00:17:18.760 Committee Secretary: Mariglo Rosayda Laririt, asr-000152 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:21.540 Committee Secretary: Director Conrado B. Marquez, asr-000153 00:17:23.600 --> 00:17:25.240 Committee Secretary: Director Michael Drake P. Matias, asr-000154 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:27.120 Committee Secretary: Director Larry M. asr-000155 00:17:27.260 --> 00:17:28.700 Committee Secretary: Heradez, from the asr-000156 00:17:28.700 --> 00:17:30.800 Committee Secretary: Attached Agencies, we have asr-000157 00:17:30.800 --> 00:17:32.620 Committee Secretary: from Namria, asr-000158 00:17:33.180 --> 00:17:34.720 Committee Secretary: Administrator Dr. Peter asr-000159 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:35.420 Committee Secretary: Tiangco, asr-000160 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.560 Committee Secretary: from NWRB, we have asr-000161 00:17:38.560 --> 00:17:40.700 Committee Secretary: Dr. Sevilio D. David Jr., asr-000162 00:17:42.020 --> 00:17:44.940 Committee Secretary: from the Palawan Council for Sustainable asr-000163 00:17:44.940 --> 00:17:46.560 Committee Secretary: Development Staff, Attorney asr-000164 00:17:46.560 --> 00:17:48.040 Committee Secretary: Teodoro Jose S. Mata, asr-000165 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:49.960 Committee Secretary: Chief Regulator, asr-000166 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:52.540 Committee Secretary: from the MWSS Regulatory Office, asr-000167 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:54.520 Committee Secretary: Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Enti, asr-000168 00:17:55.980 --> 00:17:56.860 Committee Secretary: from the asr-000169 00:17:56.860 --> 00:17:58.620 Committee Secretary: Local Water Utilities Administration, asr-000170 00:17:58.700 --> 00:18:00.540 Committee Secretary: we have Attorney Jose Moises Salonga, asr-000171 00:18:01.360 --> 00:18:02.660 Committee Secretary: from the Laguna Lake asr-000172 00:18:02.660 --> 00:18:04.560 Committee Secretary: Development Authority, Acting General asr-000173 00:18:04.560 --> 00:18:06.060 Committee Secretary: Manager Leopoldo V. Parumo, asr-000174 00:18:06.860 --> 00:18:08.740 Committee Secretary: also present asr-000175 00:18:08.740 --> 00:18:10.420 Committee Secretary: are from the DNR Regional asr-000176 00:18:10.420 --> 00:18:12.640 Committee Secretary: Offices, some are from asr-000177 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:14.660 Committee Secretary: some are Zoom attendees po. asr-000178 00:18:20.560 --> 00:18:22.360 Committee Secretary: From the private stakeholders, asr-000179 00:18:22.660 --> 00:18:24.500 Committee Secretary: we have from Bulacan Alliance asr-000180 00:18:24.500 --> 00:18:26.440 Committee Secretary: for Reform, Mr. Avelino asr-000181 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:27.300 Committee Secretary: P. Aparente, asr-000182 00:18:28.700 --> 00:18:29.800 Committee Secretary: from asr-000183 00:18:29.800 --> 00:18:36.840 Committee Secretary: from People's Budget asr-000184 00:18:36.840 --> 00:18:38.520 Committee Secretary: Coalition, we have Mr. Ken Abante, asr-000185 00:18:38.620 --> 00:18:40.300 Committee Secretary: Mr. A.J. Montesa, asr-000186 00:18:40.820 --> 00:18:42.780 Committee Secretary: and from Mangrove Breakthrough, we have asr-000187 00:18:42.780 --> 00:18:43.600 Committee Secretary: Missionista Nilon. asr-000188 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:46.040 Committee Secretary: That would be all, Madam Chair. asr-000189 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:49.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po, ComSec. asr-000190 00:18:49.840 --> 00:18:50.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And asr-000191 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:52.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: with the considerations na tatalakay asr-000192 00:18:52.940 --> 00:18:53.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: natin ngayong araw, asr-000193 00:18:55.360 --> 00:18:56.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: iniimbit ako yung mga asr-000194 00:18:56.740 --> 00:18:58.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: colleagues namin, asr-000195 00:18:58.700 --> 00:19:00.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at mga kinatawan mula sa asr-000196 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:02.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: civil society at people's organizations asr-000197 00:19:02.420 --> 00:19:04.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na sama-samang makinig asr-000198 00:19:04.580 --> 00:19:06.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa budget presentations asr-000199 00:19:06.460 --> 00:19:08.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng DNR, at yung mga asr-000200 00:19:08.540 --> 00:19:10.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: attached at supervised agencies asr-000201 00:19:10.300 --> 00:19:12.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: niya, at magsumite asr-000202 00:19:12.860 --> 00:19:14.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga tanong sa chair bilang asr-000203 00:19:14.500 --> 00:19:16.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: paghahanda sa budget plenary asr-000204 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:18.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para tiyakin natin ang sama-sama asr-000205 00:19:18.560 --> 00:19:20.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na yung 2027 budget asr-000206 00:19:20.700 --> 00:19:22.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ay magiging talagang asr-000207 00:19:22.220 --> 00:19:24.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: step forward patungo sa asr-000208 00:19:24.420 --> 00:19:26.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: transformative social protection. asr-000209 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:28.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, Sec Cuna, asr-000210 00:19:28.700 --> 00:19:30.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: you have the floor for the asr-000211 00:19:30.500 --> 00:19:31.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: department presentation. asr-000212 00:19:32.340 --> 00:19:33.480 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Thank you very much, Madam Chair. asr-000213 00:19:34.180 --> 00:19:35.640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Good morning, Madam Chair, and asr-000214 00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:38.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: sorry, good afternoon, Madam Chair, asr-000215 00:19:38.280 --> 00:19:40.160 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and to the minority leader, asr-000216 00:19:40.360 --> 00:19:41.320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Sen. Alan Cayetano. asr-000217 00:19:43.040 --> 00:19:43.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Isang kalikasang asr-000218 00:19:44.080 --> 00:19:46.380 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: pagbati po sa inyo lahat. With your permission, asr-000219 00:19:47.120 --> 00:19:48.780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and with the committee's kind indulgence, asr-000220 00:19:48.900 --> 00:19:50.560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: allow me to present the key highlights asr-000221 00:19:50.560 --> 00:19:52.060 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of our proposed fiscal year asr-000222 00:19:52.060 --> 00:19:54.460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 2027 budget and strategic asr-000223 00:19:54.460 --> 00:19:55.000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: priorities. asr-000224 00:19:55.940 --> 00:19:57.100 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: The DNR asr-000225 00:19:57.100 --> 00:19:58.660 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: respectfully requests a total asr-000226 00:19:58.700 --> 00:20:00.540 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: budget of 28.04 asr-000227 00:20:00.540 --> 00:20:02.720 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: billion pesos. This covers asr-000228 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:04.620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: our central office, 17 asr-000229 00:20:04.620 --> 00:20:06.660 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: regional offices, line and asr-000230 00:20:06.660 --> 00:20:08.820 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: staff bureaus, and attached agencies asr-000231 00:20:08.820 --> 00:20:10.220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: as we safeguard asr-000232 00:20:10.220 --> 00:20:12.620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 15.8 million hectares of classified asr-000233 00:20:12.620 --> 00:20:14.340 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: forest lands and over asr-000234 00:20:14.340 --> 00:20:16.420 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 36,000 kilometers of coastline. asr-000235 00:20:17.340 --> 00:20:18.760 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Amid fiscal space limitations, asr-000236 00:20:19.360 --> 00:20:20.560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we commit to channeling asr-000237 00:20:20.560 --> 00:20:22.240 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: these resources asr-000238 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:24.640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: toward three highly impactful asr-000239 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:25.660 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: pillars. First, asr-000240 00:20:26.500 --> 00:20:28.420 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we are unlocking our natural capital, asr-000241 00:20:28.700 --> 00:20:30.500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to drive sustainable and inclusive asr-000242 00:20:30.500 --> 00:20:31.560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: economic development. asr-000243 00:20:32.460 --> 00:20:34.640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We are shifting the national greening program asr-000244 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:35.780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: toward a comprehensive asr-000245 00:20:35.780 --> 00:20:38.540 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: forest landscape restoration approach, asr-000246 00:20:39.280 --> 00:20:40.780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: prioritizing major ecological asr-000247 00:20:40.780 --> 00:20:42.760 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: zones, such as the Sierra Madre asr-000248 00:20:42.760 --> 00:20:43.800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Protected Landscape. asr-000249 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:46.340 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: For fiscal year 2027, asr-000250 00:20:46.560 --> 00:20:48.360 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: our focus shall be empowering asr-000251 00:20:48.360 --> 00:20:50.180 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: community-based social enterprises asr-000252 00:20:50.180 --> 00:20:52.080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that restore biodiversity asr-000253 00:20:52.080 --> 00:20:54.880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and secure sustainable livelihoods. asr-000254 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:56.560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: To grant tenure security asr-000255 00:20:56.560 --> 00:20:58.360 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and unlock vital financial capital, asr-000256 00:20:58.700 --> 00:21:00.780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we are aggressively scaling up asr-000257 00:21:00.780 --> 00:21:01.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: land titling to issue asr-000258 00:21:01.980 --> 00:21:04.100 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 43,000 land patents, asr-000259 00:21:04.580 --> 00:21:06.720 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: including residential, agricultural, asr-000260 00:21:07.140 --> 00:21:09.060 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and special patents in 2027. asr-000261 00:21:09.940 --> 00:21:10.960 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: On minerals development, asr-000262 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:12.800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we are driving toward asr-000263 00:21:12.800 --> 00:21:14.320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: a 2% mining GDP asr-000264 00:21:14.320 --> 00:21:16.180 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: contribution by 2028, asr-000265 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:18.880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: up from 0.74% asr-000266 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:19.660 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: in 2025. asr-000267 00:21:20.560 --> 00:21:22.500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We are expanding small-scale mining asr-000268 00:21:22.500 --> 00:21:24.560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: opportunities through the Minahang Bayan Program asr-000269 00:21:24.560 --> 00:21:26.560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and fast-tracking 43 asr-000270 00:21:26.560 --> 00:21:28.380 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: critical mineral quadrangle asr-000271 00:21:28.380 --> 00:21:30.200 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: mapping assessments, asr-000272 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:37.200 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: strictly balanced with rigorous compliance monitoring and enforcement. Second, we are advancing environmental quality asr-000273 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:39.080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and safeguarding water security. asr-000274 00:21:39.900 --> 00:21:41.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: In light of the forecasted asr-000275 00:21:41.120 --> 00:21:42.880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: El Nino conditions persisting through asr-000276 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:43.700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 2027, asr-000277 00:21:44.560 --> 00:21:47.000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we are implementing proactive water supply asr-000278 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:49.380 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: augmentation, infrastructure upgrades, asr-000279 00:21:49.820 --> 00:21:51.000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and critical operational asr-000280 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:53.140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: adjustments. These measures asr-000281 00:21:53.140 --> 00:21:54.920 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: are coordinated among key water asr-000282 00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:56.440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: agencies alongside demand asr-000283 00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:57.840 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: management measures. asr-000284 00:21:58.700 --> 00:22:00.700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Public conservation information drives asr-000285 00:22:00.700 --> 00:22:02.700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and consumption monitoring. asr-000286 00:22:02.700 --> 00:22:05.700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We are allocating asr-000287 00:22:05.700 --> 00:22:07.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 124 million pesos asr-000288 00:22:07.520 --> 00:22:09.160 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: in direct financial assistance asr-000289 00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:10.500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to local water districts asr-000290 00:22:10.500 --> 00:22:12.940 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to expand reliable clean water asr-000291 00:22:12.940 --> 00:22:14.700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: access to isolated and asr-000292 00:22:14.700 --> 00:22:15.700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: unserved barangays. asr-000293 00:22:16.800 --> 00:22:18.580 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: On circular economy and solid waste asr-000294 00:22:18.580 --> 00:22:20.540 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: management, through the Extended asr-000295 00:22:20.540 --> 00:22:21.960 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Producer Responsibility Act, asr-000296 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:24.460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we have mobilized over 1,000 asr-000297 00:22:24.460 --> 00:22:26.540 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: obliged enterprises, asr-000298 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:28.540 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: successfully diverting asr-000299 00:22:28.700 --> 00:22:30.940 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 244 million kilograms asr-000300 00:22:30.940 --> 00:22:33.200 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of plastic packaging footprint asr-000301 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:36.000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: from terrestrial and marine ecosystems. asr-000302 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:39.900 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Additionally, we are providing direct technical asr-000303 00:22:39.900 --> 00:22:42.260 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: assistance to operationalize materials recovery asr-000304 00:22:42.260 --> 00:22:45.100 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: facilities in 4,400 barangays. asr-000305 00:22:45.100 --> 00:22:48.060 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We likewise continue our aggressive cleanup asr-000306 00:22:48.060 --> 00:22:51.340 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and rehabilitation of vital urban waterways, asr-000307 00:22:51.340 --> 00:22:53.940 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: particularly the Manila Bay, Pasig River asr-000308 00:22:53.940 --> 00:22:55.460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: system, and Laguna Lake. asr-000309 00:22:55.460 --> 00:22:58.700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Third, we are reinforcing natural asr-000310 00:22:58.700 --> 00:23:00.160 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: defense systems and scaling asr-000311 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:01.860 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: science-based climate adaptation. asr-000312 00:23:02.860 --> 00:23:04.460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Through the Mines and Geosciences Bureau, asr-000313 00:23:04.460 --> 00:23:06.460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: our 24-7 Geo Hazards asr-000314 00:23:06.460 --> 00:23:08.440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Operations Center issues asr-000315 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:10.300 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: real-time threat advisories asr-000316 00:23:10.300 --> 00:23:12.460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to LGUs, prioritizing asr-000317 00:23:12.460 --> 00:23:14.840 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: the 18 high-exposure provinces asr-000318 00:23:14.840 --> 00:23:17.240 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: identified under the National Adaptation Plan. asr-000319 00:23:18.340 --> 00:23:19.580 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We have institutionalized asr-000320 00:23:19.580 --> 00:23:21.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: the International Union for Conservation asr-000321 00:23:21.520 --> 00:23:24.860 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of Nature Global Standard for Nature-Based Solutions asr-000322 00:23:25.900 --> 00:23:28.420 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: under DNR Administrative Order asr-000323 00:23:28.420 --> 00:23:31.260 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 2026-30. asr-000324 00:23:31.260 --> 00:23:33.660 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: For Fiscal Year 2027, asr-000325 00:23:33.660 --> 00:23:35.800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we have allocated 28 million pesos asr-000326 00:23:35.800 --> 00:23:37.720 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: across four target river basins asr-000327 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:39.360 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for flood mitigation asr-000328 00:23:39.360 --> 00:23:41.140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and 10 million to update asr-000329 00:23:41.140 --> 00:23:43.880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: integrated river basin master plans asr-000330 00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:46.220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for the Buayan, Malungon, asr-000331 00:23:46.220 --> 00:23:49.360 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Agno, and Pampanga River Basins. asr-000332 00:23:49.360 --> 00:23:51.020 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We are strengthening active management asr-000333 00:23:51.020 --> 00:23:54.180 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: across 121 legislated protected areas asr-000334 00:23:54.180 --> 00:23:56.880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: covering 4.51 million hectares asr-000335 00:23:56.880 --> 00:23:58.340 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and expanding marine protected areas. asr-000336 00:23:58.340 --> 00:24:03.620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Underpinning all of these strategic priorities asr-000337 00:24:03.620 --> 00:24:05.440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: is the institutional shift brought about asr-000338 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:07.160 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: by the PENCAS law. asr-000339 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:11.060 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: By establishing site-specific ecosystem accounts, asr-000340 00:24:11.060 --> 00:24:14.000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we are assigning tangible economic value asr-000341 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to nature services, asr-000342 00:24:15.520 --> 00:24:19.480 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: ensuring data-driven planning and resource allocation. asr-000343 00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:22.100 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: To conclude, Madam Chair and honorable members, asr-000344 00:24:22.100 --> 00:24:25.340 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: environment and financing is a high return investment asr-000345 00:24:25.340 --> 00:24:28.220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: in nature-positive, climate-resilient, asr-000346 00:24:28.220 --> 00:24:30.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and sustainable Filipino communities and livelihoods. asr-000347 00:24:30.980 --> 00:24:32.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We respectfully request your full support asr-000348 00:24:32.980 --> 00:24:36.440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: in passing the DNR Fiscal Year 2027 budget. asr-000349 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Thank you very much, Madam Chair. asr-000350 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:40.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you, Secretary. asr-000351 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:42.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Parang ang bilis ng presentation. asr-000352 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:44.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I was trying to keep up. asr-000353 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:45.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And, asr-000354 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:51.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kung tama po yung nahuli ko, asr-000355 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:54.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I was looking out for yung mga major interventions asr-000356 00:24:54.800 --> 00:24:56.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng department in the incoming year asr-000357 00:24:56.800 --> 00:24:58.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: with regards to the Super El Niño. asr-000358 00:24:58.220 --> 00:25:00.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At saka nature-based solutions. asr-000359 00:25:00.940 --> 00:25:06.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ang nahuli ko lang ay you mentioned something about asr-000360 00:25:06.560 --> 00:25:09.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tama ba, 124 million pesos? asr-000361 00:25:09.900 --> 00:25:11.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: There was an item you mentioned asr-000362 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:13.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kaugnay ng El Niño plan update ninyo asr-000363 00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:14.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa water sector. asr-000364 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:17.820 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Just for the local water districts, Madam Chair. asr-000365 00:25:17.820 --> 00:25:19.560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Just for the local water districts. asr-000366 00:25:19.760 --> 00:25:19.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. asr-000367 00:25:20.300 --> 00:25:22.860 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: But there are other, if I may, Madam Chair. asr-000368 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:23.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, yes. asr-000369 00:25:23.320 --> 00:25:25.400 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: There are many other interventions asr-000370 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:27.400 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of the different departments asr-000371 00:25:28.220 --> 00:25:30.220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and water-related entities asr-000372 00:25:30.220 --> 00:25:32.220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that are all here represented. asr-000373 00:25:32.220 --> 00:25:33.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: All right. asr-000374 00:25:33.220 --> 00:25:35.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So i-follow up ko yan in a bit. asr-000375 00:25:35.220 --> 00:25:38.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then dun sa nature-based solutions naman, asr-000376 00:25:38.220 --> 00:25:40.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: narinig ko sa Pillar 3 asr-000377 00:25:40.220 --> 00:25:43.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: that amount of 28.08 million pesos. asr-000378 00:25:43.220 --> 00:25:45.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, that's for the NBS, asr-000379 00:25:45.220 --> 00:25:47.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: for the whole department already? asr-000380 00:25:49.220 --> 00:25:51.220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: This is particularly, Madam Chair, asr-000381 00:25:51.220 --> 00:25:54.220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for the four target river basins asr-000382 00:25:54.220 --> 00:25:55.220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for flood mitigation. asr-000383 00:25:55.220 --> 00:25:56.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. asr-000384 00:25:56.220 --> 00:25:57.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, just for the target, asr-000385 00:25:57.220 --> 00:25:57.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: four target river basins. asr-000386 00:25:57.980 --> 00:25:58.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yes. asr-000387 00:25:58.980 --> 00:26:00.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Apat yun? asr-000388 00:26:00.980 --> 00:26:01.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yes, Madam Chair. asr-000389 00:26:01.980 --> 00:26:02.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. asr-000390 00:26:02.980 --> 00:26:03.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, just four out of the, asr-000391 00:26:03.980 --> 00:26:05.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: how many river basins in the whole country? asr-000392 00:26:05.980 --> 00:26:06.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Eighteen? asr-000393 00:26:06.980 --> 00:26:07.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Eighteen, Madam Chair. asr-000394 00:26:07.980 --> 00:26:08.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Four out of eighteen. asr-000395 00:26:08.980 --> 00:26:09.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. asr-000396 00:26:09.980 --> 00:26:11.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, let me follow up the one about asr-000397 00:26:11.980 --> 00:26:13.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the 124 million pesos, asr-000398 00:26:13.980 --> 00:26:15.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: particularly for the local water districts asr-000399 00:26:15.980 --> 00:26:17.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa El Niño plan ninyo. asr-000400 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:24.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yun din yung unang tanong ko. asr-000405 00:26:24.100 --> 00:26:27.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sapat na po ba itong mga programa asr-000406 00:26:27.980 --> 00:26:30.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa pinaghahandaan nating Super El Niño? asr-000407 00:26:30.980 --> 00:26:34.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At alin sa mga programa ay dapat pang dagdagan ng pondo ngayon? asr-000408 00:26:34.980 --> 00:26:37.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, maybe you could give us the complete picture. asr-000409 00:26:37.980 --> 00:26:39.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ano-ano yung mga items, asr-000410 00:26:39.980 --> 00:26:42.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: even if it's the attached agencies that will detail, asr-000411 00:26:42.980 --> 00:26:45.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ano-anong mga items sa buong budget ng department asr-000412 00:26:45.980 --> 00:26:49.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ang nakalaan para paghandaan at tugunan yung Super El Niño? asr-000413 00:26:49.980 --> 00:26:51.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And what's the overall amount? asr-000414 00:26:51.980 --> 00:26:53.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At sapat na po ba ito? asr-000415 00:26:53.980 --> 00:26:55.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And going back to the details, asr-000416 00:26:55.980 --> 00:26:56.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kung hindi man ito sapat pa, asr-000417 00:26:56.980 --> 00:26:58.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ano-ano pa yung mga dapat dagdagan? asr-000418 00:26:58.980 --> 00:27:03.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Before I turn over to Undersecretary Anate, Madam Chair, asr-000419 00:27:03.980 --> 00:27:08.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: just to give you an idea of the different measures and efforts asr-000420 00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:13.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that have been exerted to address the upcoming Super El Niño. asr-000421 00:27:13.980 --> 00:27:18.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: For here in the NCR region, Madam Chair, asr-000422 00:27:18.980 --> 00:27:21.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of course, we're working with MWSS, asr-000423 00:27:21.980 --> 00:27:22.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: with the two water concessionaires, asr-000424 00:27:22.980 --> 00:27:33.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and there are 61 newly re-energized deep wells asr-000425 00:27:33.980 --> 00:27:36.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that are already operational. asr-000426 00:27:36.980 --> 00:27:38.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: As far as stationary tanks are concerned, asr-000427 00:27:38.980 --> 00:27:40.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: there are 135. asr-000428 00:27:40.980 --> 00:27:43.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: For mobile tankers, 182. asr-000429 00:27:43.980 --> 00:27:49.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And then the DNR has about 15 units asr-000430 00:27:49.980 --> 00:27:51.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of what we call the, asr-000431 00:27:51.980 --> 00:27:58.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: water bladders donated by the Netherlands government asr-000432 00:27:58.980 --> 00:28:01.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that we're also stationing in strategic areas asr-000433 00:28:01.980 --> 00:28:07.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that may need water supply eventually asr-000434 00:28:07.980 --> 00:28:11.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: if the case reaches the worst scenario. asr-000435 00:28:11.980 --> 00:28:13.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Then of course, asr-000436 00:28:13.980 --> 00:28:18.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: there's also going to be regulating of pressure management asr-000437 00:28:18.980 --> 00:28:20.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to minimize this. asr-000438 00:28:21.980 --> 00:28:23.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: To conserve water. asr-000439 00:28:23.980 --> 00:28:28.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I also sent to the Office of the President, asr-000440 00:28:28.980 --> 00:28:29.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, asr-000441 00:28:29.980 --> 00:28:32.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: a possible memorandum circular asr-000442 00:28:32.980 --> 00:28:35.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to be issued by the President asr-000443 00:28:35.980 --> 00:28:38.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to at least direct and mandate asr-000444 00:28:38.980 --> 00:28:41.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: all government offices asr-000445 00:28:41.980 --> 00:28:44.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and instrumentalities of government asr-000446 00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:48.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to observe strict conservation measures. asr-000447 00:28:48.980 --> 00:28:49.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Because, asr-000448 00:28:49.980 --> 00:28:52.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: as maybe later, asr-000449 00:28:52.980 --> 00:28:59.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: MWSS and LUA can make a statement on this asr-000450 00:28:59.980 --> 00:29:01.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: regarding non-revenue water, asr-000451 00:29:01.980 --> 00:29:04.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: which means yung mga leakage po natin, asr-000452 00:29:04.980 --> 00:29:06.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: there's quite a big percentage of this, asr-000453 00:29:06.980 --> 00:29:08.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: which we would like to minimize, asr-000454 00:29:08.980 --> 00:29:10.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and one way would be for instance asr-000455 00:29:10.980 --> 00:29:12.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for at least government offices asr-000456 00:29:12.980 --> 00:29:17.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to close the valves of the main water sources asr-000457 00:29:17.980 --> 00:29:18.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: in the different buildings. asr-000458 00:29:18.980 --> 00:29:21.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: At a certain time asr-000459 00:29:21.980 --> 00:29:24.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: during the night, asr-000460 00:29:24.980 --> 00:29:25.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair. asr-000461 00:29:25.980 --> 00:29:27.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: If you will allow me, Madam Chair, asr-000462 00:29:27.980 --> 00:29:29.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I'll pass on to Undersecretary Anate asr-000463 00:29:29.980 --> 00:29:31.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for the specifics on the figures. asr-000464 00:29:31.980 --> 00:29:32.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please. asr-000465 00:29:32.980 --> 00:29:33.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And later, asr-000466 00:29:33.980 --> 00:29:34.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: let's follow up that point about asr-000467 00:29:34.980 --> 00:29:37.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: saan kailangan tayo maghigpit asr-000468 00:29:37.980 --> 00:29:39.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para the essential water supply asr-000469 00:29:39.980 --> 00:29:41.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: will still reach people. asr-000470 00:29:41.980 --> 00:29:42.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But of course, asr-000471 00:29:42.980 --> 00:29:44.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kailangan italakay niyo yun asr-000472 00:29:44.980 --> 00:29:46.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: in a comprehensive program asr-000473 00:29:46.980 --> 00:29:47.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para hindi mag-panic ang asr-000474 00:29:47.980 --> 00:29:49.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kung sinong kaagad asr-000475 00:29:49.980 --> 00:29:51.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kaagad maapektuhan, asr-000476 00:29:51.980 --> 00:29:52.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pero maintindihan asr-000477 00:29:52.980 --> 00:29:55.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: bakit kailangan natin i-prioritize asr-000478 00:29:55.980 --> 00:29:58.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: certain water needs of people asr-000479 00:29:58.980 --> 00:29:59.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: just so we can... asr-000480 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: stretch out the existing supply at umabot tayo, no, past the Super El Nino. asr-000481 00:30:05.140 --> 00:30:06.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Yusek Analiza, please. asr-000482 00:30:07.220 --> 00:30:08.240 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Thank you, Madam Chair. asr-000483 00:30:08.800 --> 00:30:15.240 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Madam Chair, if we will consider the other programs, projects, and activities within the department, asr-000484 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:20.500 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: we can, by attribution, we can say that there's about 1.7 billion pesos asr-000485 00:30:20.500 --> 00:30:25.100 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: that can actually be considered as nature-based solutions. asr-000486 00:30:25.100 --> 00:30:30.940 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So, this one is from Forest Development, Rehabilitation, Maintenance, and Protection, asr-000487 00:30:31.580 --> 00:30:38.280 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: where we implement enhanced planting, assisted natural generation, reforestation, agroforestry, asr-000488 00:30:38.360 --> 00:30:43.260 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and this is also where maintenance and protection for the National Greening Program is included. asr-000489 00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:46.840 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: The second one is with respect to soil conservation, asr-000490 00:30:48.060 --> 00:30:53.460 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: where we undertake, we plan to undertake the scaling up of nature-based solutions asr-000491 00:30:53.460 --> 00:30:54.900 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: for flood risk reduction. asr-000492 00:30:55.100 --> 00:30:56.380 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Then, water resource management. asr-000493 00:30:56.860 --> 00:31:00.660 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: This is, Madam Chair, the one that you mentioned about the 28 million pesos. asr-000494 00:31:01.420 --> 00:31:04.680 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: And then, establishment of vegetative messures. asr-000495 00:31:04.900 --> 00:31:12.680 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: We also consider the maintenance and protection of about 7,000 hectares in the protected areas asr-000496 00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.360 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: as part of our nature-based solutions. asr-000497 00:31:15.940 --> 00:31:21.820 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Support to livelihood, such as social enterprise development for NGP products asr-000498 00:31:21.820 --> 00:31:25.080 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and biodiversity-friendly enterprise under the Coastal. asr-000499 00:31:25.100 --> 00:31:30.800 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: And marine are also considered as part of the nature-based solutions. asr-000500 00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:37.200 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: And then, the soil conservation primarily to form, strengthen, or operationalize asr-000501 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.840 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: the 54 Watershed Mitigation Councils. asr-000502 00:31:41.140 --> 00:31:44.620 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: In terms of enforcement, Madam Chair, we also included here asr-000503 00:31:44.620 --> 00:31:48.100 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: LAWIN Forest and Biodiversity Protection System. asr-000504 00:31:49.120 --> 00:31:54.860 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So, in total, there's about 1.7 billion pesos, Madam Chair. asr-000505 00:31:55.100 --> 00:32:00.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, 1.7 billion out of the total requested, as it stands now, 28 billion. asr-000506 00:32:00.560 --> 00:32:04.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, that's like 5% of the whole department budget, asr-000507 00:32:04.580 --> 00:32:06.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: particularly for nature-based solutions. asr-000508 00:32:06.700 --> 00:32:10.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Itong total amount ba so far for nature-based solutions, asr-000509 00:32:11.080 --> 00:32:18.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pareho na rin ito dun sa kabuo ang halaga na nakalaan para sa Super El Nino? asr-000510 00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Or magkakaiba yun? Or may overlap ba yun? asr-000511 00:32:21.740 --> 00:32:23.320 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: May overlap, Madam Chair. asr-000512 00:32:23.320 --> 00:32:24.320 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: We still have to... asr-000513 00:32:25.100 --> 00:32:33.880 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: segregate exactly what will be allocated for the very strong El Nino, Madam Chair. asr-000514 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Could you also give us, Usec, the total amount so far asr-000515 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:42.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng lahat naman ang mga items na nakafocus sa paghahanda at pagtugon sa Super El Nino? asr-000516 00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:46.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Sec Cuna. asr-000517 00:32:46.580 --> 00:32:47.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Oh, I'm sorry. asr-000518 00:32:48.980 --> 00:32:54.440 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Yes, Madam Chair, we'll look at the specific figures for the actions asr-000519 00:32:55.100 --> 00:32:57.620 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: just for the Super El Nino. asr-000520 00:32:58.040 --> 00:33:04.320 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: What we intend to do, Madam Chair, is to overlay the areas asr-000521 00:33:04.320 --> 00:33:08.120 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: where the very strong Super El Nino will strike, asr-000522 00:33:08.780 --> 00:33:16.360 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: overlay it with the areas where there is a strong groundwater stress areas also, asr-000523 00:33:16.360 --> 00:33:24.580 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and where the areas where assistance for water supply is being given. asr-000524 00:33:25.100 --> 00:33:29.140 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So that we can prioritize which areas, the impact areas, Madam Chair, asr-000525 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:34.380 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and from there, we will be able to determine the specific costs that will be just allocated. asr-000526 00:33:34.600 --> 00:33:37.200 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So, Madam Chair, we will submit the figures there. asr-000527 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Please do so within this hearing. asr-000528 00:33:39.380 --> 00:33:45.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasi yun actually yung follow-up question ko rin tungkol sa areas na ma-identify nyo asr-000529 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: by overlaying pinaka-vulnerable, pinaka may malalim naman na groundwater, asr-000530 00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:52.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at pinaka mangangailangan ng assistance. asr-000531 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And importanteng masagot nyo kami kung... asr-000532 00:33:55.100 --> 00:33:58.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: magkano kabuan na ang nakalaan para sa Super El Nino. asr-000533 00:33:58.800 --> 00:34:02.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasi para masagot nyo rin yung tanong ko kanina na asr-000534 00:34:02.380 --> 00:34:05.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: aling mga programa ang kailangan pang dagdagan ngayon. asr-000535 00:34:06.120 --> 00:34:08.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But before I go to my next question, asr-000536 00:34:08.180 --> 00:34:11.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the Chair would like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Pia. asr-000537 00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:12.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you for joining us. asr-000538 00:34:12.560 --> 00:34:15.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Would you also like to make an opening statement before we continue? asr-000539 00:34:19.620 --> 00:34:20.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Good morning. asr-000540 00:34:21.020 --> 00:34:23.160 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Good morning, Secretary, and good morning, everyone. asr-000541 00:34:25.100 --> 00:34:28.820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Sino dito yung mas matagal na sa Secretary sa DNR? asr-000542 00:34:29.300 --> 00:34:29.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Taas ang kamay. asr-000543 00:34:31.600 --> 00:34:32.060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Marami? asr-000544 00:34:33.080 --> 00:34:33.980 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Marami kayo, no? asr-000545 00:34:34.060 --> 00:34:36.720 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because, Secretary, if I... asr-000546 00:34:36.720 --> 00:34:41.020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Do I remember correctly, when I was Chairman of the Committee on Environment, asr-000547 00:34:41.680 --> 00:34:42.700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: EMB ka ba? asr-000548 00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:43.640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: O, see? asr-000549 00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:44.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yes. asr-000550 00:34:44.560 --> 00:34:45.960 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Umaandar pa yung aking memory. asr-000551 00:34:46.740 --> 00:34:50.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because we did a lot of work on that, and I think even the passing of the NIPAS law. asr-000552 00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: But I know nga maraming matatagal na dyan. asr-000553 00:34:53.180 --> 00:34:54.260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, thank you for your work. asr-000554 00:34:54.340 --> 00:34:54.940 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: There's a lot of work. asr-000555 00:34:54.940 --> 00:34:55.540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: There's a lot of work ahead of us. asr-000556 00:34:56.100 --> 00:35:04.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I just want to mention that in 2008, I authored and sponsored the Environmental Education Act. asr-000557 00:35:05.860 --> 00:35:08.240 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And I think it is... asr-000558 00:35:08.240 --> 00:35:10.180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I thought it was very relevant then. asr-000559 00:35:10.300 --> 00:35:16.820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I think it's even as relevant now because I'm preaching to the choir. asr-000560 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:18.800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, you all know how important that is. asr-000561 00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:22.840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And we just had our budget hearing with DepEd. asr-000562 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:39.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And I will personally send a message to Secretary Angara about this because it tasked DepEd and CHED to include it in their curriculum with the guidance of DNR. asr-000563 00:35:40.040 --> 00:35:47.180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And the law is a very simple law, but the law specifically recognizes that every geographical area is different. asr-000564 00:35:47.180 --> 00:35:51.060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, obviously, yung mga barangay na malapit sa dagat, asr-000565 00:35:51.060 --> 00:35:54.380 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: edi syempre, yung marine protection ang pinaka-importante sa kanila. asr-000566 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:56.700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And then, yung nasa bundok naman, yung sa bundok. asr-000567 00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:02.780 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And then, for all of our young people, because they're the ones who influence the older people, asr-000568 00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:07.840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: recognize how this all affects all their lives. asr-000569 00:36:08.240 --> 00:36:12.360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I think it's a good time to review where we are at that. asr-000570 00:36:12.460 --> 00:36:13.060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And to be clear... asr-000571 00:36:14.040 --> 00:36:14.440 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Bakit? asr-000572 00:36:15.120 --> 00:36:16.800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Same ba? Sorry, same ba? asr-000573 00:36:17.600 --> 00:36:18.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mas may detail. asr-000574 00:36:18.560 --> 00:36:19.620 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Normally iba ka, di ba? asr-000575 00:36:21.060 --> 00:36:22.840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Anyway, hindi ko alam. Sorry. asr-000576 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:26.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mas may detail yung sa 'yo asr-000577 00:36:27.240 --> 00:36:27.560 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-000578 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:38.140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, what I wanted to emphasize now is that we recognize that different geographies are affected differently. asr-000579 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:43.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And it's time that we really include it in our children's education. asr-000580 00:36:43.520 --> 00:36:50.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: But what I want to emphasize is I also believe that legislators should not... asr-000581 00:36:51.060 --> 00:36:54.120 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: intervene and micromanage the curriculum. asr-000582 00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:55.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, hindi ko sinasabi yun. asr-000583 00:36:56.040 --> 00:37:02.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Ito yung laging medyo mahirap intindihin unless you understand how these curriculums are developed. asr-000584 00:37:02.600 --> 00:37:06.000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: It's embedded in their different subjects. asr-000585 00:37:06.180 --> 00:37:07.320 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Okay naman ako dyan, Secretary. asr-000586 00:37:07.720 --> 00:37:09.300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, maybe you can just assign. asr-000587 00:37:09.580 --> 00:37:13.020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Is there a specific division that would be in charge of that? asr-000588 00:37:13.940 --> 00:37:14.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: There is. Okay, later na lang. asr-000589 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:16.700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because anyway, this is just my introductory statement. asr-000590 00:37:16.700 --> 00:37:21.040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, and then, of course, the committee I chair is the Sustainable Development Goals. asr-000591 00:37:21.040 --> 00:37:22.300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Innovation Futures Thinking. asr-000592 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:32.900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And there's a lot of SDGs that fall under your direction and need your specific input. asr-000593 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:36.100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, maybe somebody can also discuss that. asr-000594 00:37:36.180 --> 00:37:42.640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because the problem with SDGs is they are so overlapping that sometimes no one's in charge. asr-000595 00:37:43.080 --> 00:37:46.680 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And that's really what I want to dive into later on. asr-000596 00:37:47.740 --> 00:37:50.720 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Obviously, yung responsible consumption. asr-000597 00:37:51.040 --> 00:37:52.140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: SDG 12. asr-000598 00:37:52.780 --> 00:37:54.060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I think inyo talaga yun, no? asr-000599 00:37:54.580 --> 00:37:57.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Yung mga tetrapak, yung mga sachets. asr-000600 00:37:58.420 --> 00:38:03.700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: But there's others that become part of your responsibility. asr-000601 00:38:04.080 --> 00:38:06.500 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Pero hindi siguro natin napipinpoint. asr-000602 00:38:06.560 --> 00:38:08.740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I'll go into that later on when I have my own time. asr-000603 00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:09.760 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you for now. asr-000604 00:38:09.900 --> 00:38:12.340 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: We can proceed, Madam Chairperson. asr-000605 00:38:12.580 --> 00:38:12.940 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you. asr-000606 00:38:13.020 --> 00:38:14.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you, Senator Pia. asr-000607 00:38:14.420 --> 00:38:15.160 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, if I may? asr-000608 00:38:15.300 --> 00:38:16.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Eko na. asr-000609 00:38:16.160 --> 00:38:19.680 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Just to follow up on what the good Senator mentioned. asr-000610 00:38:19.680 --> 00:38:26.700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Because what Senator Allen brought up earlier, the importance of the education, environmental education. asr-000611 00:38:26.940 --> 00:38:32.840 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I was going to mention that there was a law passed already in 2008, Environmental Awareness and Education Act. asr-000612 00:38:33.700 --> 00:38:48.080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: But I think we need to collaborate with both CHED and DepEd on more detailed modules that will be integrated in the curriculum now. asr-000613 00:38:48.080 --> 00:38:49.080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Both for... asr-000614 00:38:49.680 --> 00:38:51.620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: For elementary and even higher. asr-000615 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So that it will be, you know, inculcated in all our students. asr-000616 00:38:55.540 --> 00:39:05.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And what should be, by nature, the behavior, what it should actually be in terms of solid waste management and other aspects. asr-000617 00:39:07.560 --> 00:39:08.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Sec. asr-000618 00:39:08.300 --> 00:39:11.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Maybe while we're at it, you could also include engaging TESDA about this. asr-000619 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:12.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. asr-000620 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:13.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Sec. asr-000621 00:39:13.740 --> 00:39:15.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, back to you, Sec. asr-000622 00:39:15.740 --> 00:39:16.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Analiza. asr-000623 00:39:16.600 --> 00:39:19.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kanina binanggit nyo po na i-overlay nyo yung mga mapa. asr-000624 00:39:19.680 --> 00:39:29.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Para ma-identify yung mga area na pinakamangangailangan ng tulong, may pinakamalalim na groundwater, tapos yung pinaka-vulnerable. asr-000625 00:39:29.300 --> 00:39:46.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, follow up dun, na-identify nyo po ba yung mga probinsya at regyon na pinakamaapektuhan, bahagya lamang, or hardly at all, or pinakamatindi yung katamtaman, tapos bahagya lamang, ng Super El Nino. asr-000626 00:39:46.600 --> 00:39:50.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At least, simula noong 2027. asr-000627 00:39:50.720 --> 00:39:51.760 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Yes, Madam Chair. asr-000628 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:58.640 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Ang pag-asa po ang nag-release ng data, kung sino yung very high impact, moderate impact. asr-000629 00:39:59.520 --> 00:40:03.900 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So, yun po yung pinaka-baseline namin sa mapa na nagagawin. asr-000630 00:40:04.620 --> 00:40:14.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And with that pag-asa baseline, nagko-coordinate din ba kayo, halimbawa, sa Philippine Space Agency, Project NOAA, pati yung UP Resilience Institute, asr-000631 00:40:14.980 --> 00:40:19.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para matuko at mabantayan yung mga lugar na nanganganib sa tagtuyot? asr-000632 00:40:21.020 --> 00:40:31.300 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Yes, Madam Chair. There's a task force, El Nino, under the OCD and the RRMC. So, doon po yung sharing of data, Madam Chair. asr-000633 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:36.620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And lahat po nitong mga ahensya, kasama po, kasabay ng DNR. asr-000634 00:40:36.620 --> 00:40:44.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And may malinaw na plano na ba para maunang matulungan yung mga lugar na yan? asr-000635 00:40:44.200 --> 00:40:48.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: According to the severity of vulnerability and probable impact. asr-000636 00:40:49.080 --> 00:40:54.940 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Yes, Madam Chair. OCD already has some drafts. They call it SNAP. I forgot the meaning of the acronym. asr-000637 00:40:55.460 --> 00:41:03.980 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: But DNR has also drafted its own very strong El Nino mitigation response plans. asr-000638 00:41:05.180 --> 00:41:10.180 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: And we have a proposed directive already to be signed by the Secretary for that, Madam Chair. asr-000639 00:41:11.120 --> 00:41:12.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Directive signed by the Secretary. asr-000640 00:41:12.600 --> 00:41:13.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bukod pa po dun sa... asr-000641 00:41:14.200 --> 00:41:17.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: MC na binanggit nila na pinadala sa OP. asr-000642 00:41:17.780 --> 00:41:26.940 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Yes, Madam Chair. Yung plano po namin na internal sa DNR will not only cover water management and conservation governance, asr-000643 00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:33.220 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: which will include the alternative water sources and harvesting, groundwater and salinity safeguards, asr-000644 00:41:34.040 --> 00:41:36.580 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and also reservoir and dam level management. asr-000645 00:41:36.860 --> 00:41:43.840 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: That mitigation plan will also cover wildfire and grass fire prevention and preparedness. asr-000646 00:41:44.200 --> 00:41:53.060 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Mga maalala nyo, Madam Chair, in the past, nagsara tayo ng mga PA from the tourists and mga hikers because of the forest fires. asr-000647 00:41:53.060 --> 00:42:00.260 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So kasama po dito yung mga early warning and hotspot tracking natin, strict ban on open burning, asr-000648 00:42:00.780 --> 00:42:09.940 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and kasama din po yung pag-monitor na natin ang open dam site and sanitary land fire prevention, fire contingency planning, asr-000649 00:42:10.520 --> 00:42:13.180 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: kasama din po ang flood risk prevention and management. asr-000650 00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:14.040 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Kasi hindi po ibig sabihin. asr-000651 00:42:14.040 --> 00:42:23.080 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Ibig sabihin na very strong elmineo ay kagtuyot lang po, but it could also draw a very strong rain. asr-000652 00:42:23.640 --> 00:42:31.220 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So sasama po natin sa directive na i-issuehan po ni Secretary will be drainage and waterway desilting. asr-000653 00:42:32.220 --> 00:42:36.540 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Also early warning systems, river channel improvement, asr-000654 00:42:36.540 --> 00:42:40.560 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and then yung environmental and ecosystem-based adaptation, asr-000655 00:42:41.160 --> 00:42:44.020 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: which will include the continuation of the... asr-000656 00:42:44.040 --> 00:42:48.420 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: groundwater resource and vulnerability assessment of MGB and NWRB. asr-000657 00:42:48.420 --> 00:42:54.900 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Of course, NGP, protected area management, and biodiversity and marine monitoring, Madam Chair. asr-000658 00:42:55.080 --> 00:43:01.540 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So yung buong ecosystem and biodiversity po ang itatakal ng mitigation plan, not just water security, Madam Chair. asr-000659 00:43:02.060 --> 00:43:08.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So I hope, Yusek, before the hearing is over for today, makal ninyo lahat ng items, nung lahat ng iyon, asr-000660 00:43:08.120 --> 00:43:13.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasi yun siguro yung magbubuo ng suma total ng pinopropose so far para sa ELNC. asr-000661 00:43:14.040 --> 00:43:16.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Makal ninyo preparation and response. asr-000662 00:43:17.420 --> 00:43:22.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then you can tell us at that point kung alin pa dito ang kulang ng pondo. asr-000663 00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Now, moving on to another question. asr-000664 00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bawas ng P550 million ang pondo ng National Greening Program asr-000665 00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:39.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dahil di umano ahead of schedule ang programa sa target na forest cover na 7.5 million hectares by 2028. asr-000666 00:43:40.200 --> 00:43:43.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung kinal po yun mula sa NGP, asr-000667 00:43:44.040 --> 00:43:51.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: posible bang gamitin muna yan, i-repurpose, pandagdag dun sa El Nino plans ng department? asr-000668 00:43:55.500 --> 00:44:03.180 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: You mean, Madam Chair, if I may, you mean would it be practical to use it for this? asr-000669 00:44:03.420 --> 00:44:05.140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I believe so, Madam Chair. asr-000670 00:44:05.140 --> 00:44:13.140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: One of the other efforts that we are looking at is also to assess the decommissioning, asr-000671 00:44:14.040 --> 00:44:17.620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: the decommissioned deep wells that have been decommissioned in the past asr-000672 00:44:17.620 --> 00:44:23.740 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and to be able to re-energize it kasi these are in many different areas in the country. asr-000673 00:44:24.180 --> 00:44:24.600 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: That's one. asr-000674 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:30.880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And then also, you mentioned, Madam Chair, earlier about small water impounding systems asr-000675 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:36.800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and we have over 2,000 around the country which are actually for the National Greening Program asr-000676 00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:42.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that can be repurposed for domestic use at least. asr-000677 00:44:42.120 --> 00:44:43.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And although... asr-000678 00:44:44.040 --> 00:44:49.720 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So, as far as for drinking, we would have to check the water quality first asr-000679 00:44:49.720 --> 00:44:53.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: but at least for domestic use, we can repurpose that, Madam Chair. asr-000680 00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:00.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then, you started to mention something about this... asr-000681 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: earlier, Sec. So, para sa inyo asr-000682 00:45:02.200 --> 00:45:03.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at particularly sa asr-000683 00:45:03.340 --> 00:45:06.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: LUA, ano yung asr-000684 00:45:06.060 --> 00:45:07.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga tinuturing ng department asr-000685 00:45:07.860 --> 00:45:10.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na non-essential water asr-000686 00:45:10.100 --> 00:45:11.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: consumption? At asr-000687 00:45:11.860 --> 00:45:13.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may nakahandang polisiya na ba para asr-000688 00:45:13.900 --> 00:45:15.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kontrolin o bawasan yung asr-000689 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pagkasayang ng tubig? At least asr-000690 00:45:18.120 --> 00:45:19.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: for this non-essential water. asr-000691 00:45:21.720 --> 00:45:22.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, asr-000692 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:23.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Administrator Salonga. asr-000693 00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:25.220 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, Mr. Secretary, asr-000694 00:45:25.900 --> 00:45:27.940 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: yes ma'am, nagpalabas na po ng asr-000695 00:45:27.940 --> 00:45:29.880 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: memorandum circular ang LUA regarding asr-000696 00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:31.960 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: these matters. Pastrik sya asr-000697 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:33.940 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: ng pastrik, depende sa pangangailangan asr-000698 00:45:33.940 --> 00:45:35.440 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: ng tubig. Meron mga, asr-000699 00:45:36.100 --> 00:45:37.760 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: meron kaming minumungkahing medyo asr-000700 00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:40.020 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: isara muna asr-000701 00:45:40.020 --> 00:45:41.920 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: or bawasan ng allocation ng asr-000702 00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:44.000 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: tubig or close muna asr-000703 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:46.060 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: yung valves. Especially for businesses asr-000704 00:45:46.060 --> 00:45:48.140 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na medyo malakas gumamit asr-000705 00:45:48.140 --> 00:45:48.600 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: ng tubig. asr-000706 00:45:50.300 --> 00:45:52.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Speaking of which, and to continue asr-000707 00:45:52.260 --> 00:45:53.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: a line asr-000708 00:45:53.900 --> 00:45:55.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: open by the Secretary kanina, asr-000709 00:45:56.620 --> 00:45:57.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ano po yung plano asr-000710 00:45:57.760 --> 00:45:59.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa irrigation at pagdidilig asr-000711 00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:01.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga golf courses, asr-000712 00:46:01.980 --> 00:46:03.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pagpuno ng swimming pools asr-000713 00:46:03.700 --> 00:46:05.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa mga water parks, asr-000714 00:46:05.700 --> 00:46:07.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pagpapatakbo ng mga fountains sa mga asr-000715 00:46:07.600 --> 00:46:10.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: resorts. Hihigpitan ba yan? asr-000716 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:11.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pwede ba silang obligahin asr-000717 00:46:11.660 --> 00:46:13.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at least temporarily until asr-000718 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:15.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: masurvive natin ang Super El Nino? asr-000719 00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:17.800 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Mr. Secretary, Madam Chair, kasama asr-000720 00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:19.580 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na po yun sa memorandum circulars namin asr-000721 00:46:19.580 --> 00:46:21.840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na tinitingnan na pwedeng bawasan asr-000722 00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:23.600 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: or pamansan asr-000723 00:46:23.600 --> 00:46:25.380 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: temporarily close asr-000724 00:46:25.380 --> 00:46:26.820 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: yung mga businesses na yun. asr-000725 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:31.740 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Or not necessarily asr-000726 00:46:31.740 --> 00:46:33.260 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: the whole business, but those asr-000727 00:46:33.260 --> 00:46:35.620 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: matakaw sa tubig asr-000728 00:46:35.620 --> 00:46:37.040 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na elements nung asr-000729 00:46:37.040 --> 00:46:38.340 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: business na yun. asr-000730 00:46:39.200 --> 00:46:41.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And oobligahin nyo sila asr-000731 00:46:41.060 --> 00:46:42.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: under the MC? asr-000732 00:46:42.940 --> 00:46:45.140 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Yes, ma'am. Including yung closure asr-000733 00:46:45.140 --> 00:46:47.400 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: ng valves sa mga government asr-000734 00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:49.180 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: facilities at certain times. asr-000735 00:46:50.340 --> 00:46:51.640 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Gusto nga namin gawin asr-000736 00:46:51.640 --> 00:46:53.500 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na sa luwa yun. Just to conserve. asr-000737 00:46:53.860 --> 00:46:55.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So government will set asr-000738 00:46:55.540 --> 00:46:57.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the good example first and then asr-000739 00:46:57.200 --> 00:46:59.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: oobligahin yung parts of the private asr-000740 00:46:59.520 --> 00:47:01.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sector to also asr-000741 00:47:01.040 --> 00:47:04.620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: limit or asr-000742 00:47:04.620 --> 00:47:07.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: reduce parts of asr-000743 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:08.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: their own operations. asr-000744 00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:09.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. asr-000745 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:13.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero paano natin babantayan asr-000746 00:47:13.740 --> 00:47:15.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na talagang asr-000747 00:47:15.040 --> 00:47:16.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: susunod sila? asr-000748 00:47:16.980 --> 00:47:19.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Lalo na sa mga lugar na nagkukulang asr-000749 00:47:19.140 --> 00:47:20.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na sa supply sa surrounding asr-000750 00:47:20.560 --> 00:47:22.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: residential or agricultural areas. asr-000751 00:47:22.820 --> 00:47:24.900 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, Mr. Secretary, nakapag-release asr-000752 00:47:24.900 --> 00:47:26.540 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na rin po kami ng memorandum circulars asr-000753 00:47:26.540 --> 00:47:28.780 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: yung sub-monitoring ng mga water districts asr-000754 00:47:28.780 --> 00:47:30.840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: regarding those facilities. Tapos yung asr-000755 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:32.960 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: pagsasara ng valves na po yun, water district asr-000756 00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:34.940 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na po ang gagawa nun. At least for asr-000757 00:47:34.940 --> 00:47:37.260 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: water districts, all water districts asr-000758 00:47:37.260 --> 00:47:38.480 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: outside of Metro Manila. asr-000759 00:47:43.560 --> 00:47:45.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So this has, speaking of asr-000760 00:47:45.240 --> 00:47:47.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: education and information kanina, asr-000761 00:47:47.200 --> 00:47:49.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: this has to be communicated asr-000762 00:47:49.020 --> 00:47:50.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: very, very well. asr-000763 00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:53.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung bakit lahat asr-000764 00:47:53.240 --> 00:47:53.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ay asr-000765 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:57.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nababantaan itong Super El Nino asr-000766 00:47:57.340 --> 00:47:59.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: and the sacrifices asr-000767 00:47:59.040 --> 00:48:01.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: that all of us, different sectors asr-000768 00:48:01.060 --> 00:48:02.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: have to undertake asr-000769 00:48:02.500 --> 00:48:05.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: in the next few months para makapagsurvive asr-000770 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:07.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: lahat. So para magkaroon asr-000771 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:08.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng buy-in, yung iba't-ibang asr-000772 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:10.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kailangan gumawa. Madam Chair, asr-000773 00:48:10.420 --> 00:48:13.060 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Sir Secretary, nakapagpalabas na rin kami ng memorandum asr-000774 00:48:13.060 --> 00:48:14.840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: circular for all water districts asr-000775 00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:16.000 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: to come up with communication asr-000776 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:18.760 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: plans for non-revenue water asr-000777 00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:20.460 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: saka procedures for asr-000778 00:48:20.460 --> 00:48:22.460 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: El Nino kung mangyari. asr-000779 00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:25.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sige, let's talk about asr-000780 00:48:25.080 --> 00:48:26.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the non-revenue water also a little later. asr-000781 00:48:27.340 --> 00:48:29.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Importante din yung comms coming from the national. asr-000782 00:48:29.460 --> 00:48:31.500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Just to add to that, Madam Chair, asr-000783 00:48:31.900 --> 00:48:32.240 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: actually, asr-000784 00:48:33.580 --> 00:48:34.500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: the President has called asr-000785 00:48:34.500 --> 00:48:37.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: several times already the task force El Nino asr-000786 00:48:37.120 --> 00:48:39.140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and one of the agenda asr-000787 00:48:39.140 --> 00:48:41.220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: items that were taken up asr-000788 00:48:41.220 --> 00:48:42.800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that was taken up is asr-000789 00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: a comprehensive comms plan that we're already asr-000790 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:46.680 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: working on with the other agencies asr-000791 00:48:46.680 --> 00:48:48.200 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: so that, as you said, asr-000792 00:48:48.740 --> 00:48:51.060 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: people will know how asr-000793 00:48:51.060 --> 00:48:53.140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: they can contribute to asr-000794 00:48:53.140 --> 00:48:54.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: at least easing the asr-000795 00:48:54.980 --> 00:48:56.480 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: effects of the Super El Nino. asr-000796 00:48:57.340 --> 00:48:57.920 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Thank you. asr-000797 00:48:58.600 --> 00:48:59.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you, Sec. asr-000798 00:48:59.780 --> 00:49:02.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Since nabuksan na rin natin yung ilang mga tanong asr-000799 00:49:02.180 --> 00:49:03.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kaugnay ng luwa, perhaps asr-000800 00:49:03.500 --> 00:49:05.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may presentation din po ba kayo, asr-000801 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:07.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Administrator Salonga, or asr-000802 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: shall we, wala naman? Okay. asr-000803 00:49:10.180 --> 00:49:12.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Alright. So, let's asr-000804 00:49:12.060 --> 00:49:12.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: continue with asr-000805 00:49:12.940 --> 00:49:15.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: our questions. asr-000806 00:49:16.640 --> 00:49:18.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, Forest Management asr-000807 00:49:18.060 --> 00:49:20.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bureau, so may presentation asr-000808 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:22.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: po ba yung FMB, or asr-000809 00:49:22.060 --> 00:49:23.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: do we go straight to our questions? asr-000810 00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:25.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: We can go straight to the questions. asr-000811 00:49:25.660 --> 00:49:27.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Alright. Salamat po. asr-000812 00:49:27.340 --> 00:49:29.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, asr-000813 00:49:29.640 --> 00:49:31.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Director Padriquela, asr-000814 00:49:31.780 --> 00:49:32.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kayo po ba? Okay po. asr-000815 00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:36.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, itong pinag-uusapan natin asr-000816 00:49:36.240 --> 00:49:37.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga small water impounding asr-000817 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: systems, malaking tulong po talaga asr-000818 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:41.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa mga komunidad at mga asr-000819 00:49:41.560 --> 00:49:43.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: magsasaka, lalo na nga po asr-000820 00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:45.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at nandito na asr-000821 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:46.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at patindi yung tagtuyot. asr-000822 00:49:47.340 --> 00:49:49.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, ilan na po ba, may nabanggit na rin asr-000823 00:49:49.580 --> 00:49:51.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: po si Yusek Analiza asr-000824 00:49:51.500 --> 00:49:53.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yata kanina, kung ilan na po asr-000825 00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:54.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ba yung mga asr-000826 00:49:54.900 --> 00:49:57.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: umiiral na small asr-000827 00:49:57.180 --> 00:49:59.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: water impounding asr-000828 00:49:59.080 --> 00:50:00.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: systems, asr-000829 00:50:01.060 --> 00:50:03.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at ilan naman yung asr-000830 00:50:03.040 --> 00:50:04.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: inaasahan nating asr-000831 00:50:04.160 --> 00:50:07.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: naitayo at operasyonal asr-000832 00:50:07.040 --> 00:50:09.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: hanggang po sa katapusan asr-000833 00:50:09.260 --> 00:50:10.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nitong taon? asr-000834 00:50:15.100 --> 00:50:16.520 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Magandang hapon po, asr-000835 00:50:17.420 --> 00:50:18.300 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Honorable Chair. asr-000836 00:50:19.680 --> 00:50:21.120 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Meron po tayong asr-000837 00:50:21.120 --> 00:50:23.180 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: number ngayon asr-000838 00:50:23.180 --> 00:50:25.180 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: na 1,335 asr-000839 00:50:25.180 --> 00:50:27.280 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: structures asr-000840 00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:28.760 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: with a capacity of asr-000841 00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:29.820 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: about asr-000842 00:50:29.820 --> 00:50:34.840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 49,981 asr-000843 00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:35.760 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: cubic meters. asr-000844 00:50:35.980 --> 00:50:37.500 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Sa buong Pilipinas po doon, asr-000845 00:50:37.520 --> 00:50:38.220 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: nakai-spread. asr-000846 00:50:39.200 --> 00:50:41.460 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: At meron pa rin tayo asr-000847 00:50:41.460 --> 00:50:42.560 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng ongoing ngayon asr-000848 00:50:42.560 --> 00:50:44.760 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: for 2026 at asr-000849 00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:46.700 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: for 2027, asr-000850 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:47.840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 2027, asr-000851 00:50:49.260 --> 00:50:51.320 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ay nakatarget pa rin po tayo asr-000852 00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:53.280 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng 2,527 asr-000853 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:54.280 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: for 2,527 asr-000854 00:50:55.180 --> 00:50:56.200 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: cubic meters asr-000855 00:50:56.200 --> 00:50:57.940 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: with a budget of asr-000856 00:50:57.940 --> 00:50:59.580 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 185 million. asr-000857 00:51:00.620 --> 00:51:02.780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: At ayon po sa aming asr-000858 00:51:02.780 --> 00:51:03.680 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: karanasan, asr-000859 00:51:04.580 --> 00:51:06.440 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: malaki po ang asr-000860 00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.480 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: pakinabang ito sa ating asr-000861 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:10.480 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: mga community sa mga rural areas. asr-000862 00:51:11.460 --> 00:51:12.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So yung asr-000863 00:51:12.240 --> 00:51:14.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: existing po na 1,035 asr-000864 00:51:14.200 --> 00:51:16.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: plus yung mga ongoing, asr-000865 00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:18.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: so ilan ang total na asr-000866 00:51:18.180 --> 00:51:20.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: magkakaroon tayo sa small water asr-000867 00:51:20.240 --> 00:51:22.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: impounding systems katapusan nitong taon? asr-000868 00:51:25.180 --> 00:51:27.780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Equivalent to asr-000869 00:51:27.780 --> 00:51:30.040 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 50,000 cubic meters po. asr-000870 00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:33.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then nabanggit nyo na nga po asr-000871 00:51:33.700 --> 00:51:35.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa 2027, asr-000872 00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:37.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may pinaplano kayong ita yung asr-000873 00:51:37.560 --> 00:51:39.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 2,500 plus. asr-000874 00:51:40.080 --> 00:51:41.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ilan po exactly? asr-000875 00:51:41.460 --> 00:51:42.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 2,500? asr-000876 00:51:42.940 --> 00:51:45.140 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 527 cubic meters. asr-000877 00:51:45.260 --> 00:51:47.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 527 cubic meters. asr-000878 00:51:48.600 --> 00:51:49.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. asr-000879 00:51:50.620 --> 00:51:51.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, so ano? asr-000880 00:51:55.180 --> 00:51:57.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ang laki ng na-multiply. asr-000881 00:51:57.800 --> 00:51:59.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 50,000 cubic meters by the end asr-000882 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:01.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: of the year, 2026. asr-000883 00:52:01.600 --> 00:52:02.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tama po ba? asr-000884 00:52:02.180 --> 00:52:05.340 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Ito po yung nagawa na po natin. asr-000885 00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:08.800 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: For 2027, asr-000886 00:52:09.220 --> 00:52:10.540 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: dagdag po uli asr-000887 00:52:10.540 --> 00:52:12.840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng 2,527 cubic meters. asr-000888 00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:14.220 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Ah, okay. Dagdag ito. asr-000889 00:52:15.040 --> 00:52:16.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. Pero ang laki pa rin asr-000890 00:52:16.640 --> 00:52:18.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng multiply. asr-000891 00:52:18.520 --> 00:52:19.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano nyo i-achieve ito? asr-000892 00:52:19.980 --> 00:52:21.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: From 50,000 to asr-000893 00:52:21.660 --> 00:52:22.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 2,500. asr-000894 00:52:24.220 --> 00:52:24.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tama? asr-000895 00:52:25.180 --> 00:52:26.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 50,000 end of the year. asr-000896 00:52:27.040 --> 00:52:27.760 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Nagawa na po yun. asr-000897 00:52:27.820 --> 00:52:29.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Oh, and then dagdag na 2,500. asr-000898 00:52:29.260 --> 00:52:29.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Oh, sorry. asr-000899 00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:32.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, 52,500 by end 2027. asr-000900 00:52:33.060 --> 00:52:33.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay po. asr-000901 00:52:34.020 --> 00:52:35.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, yung mga asr-000902 00:52:35.720 --> 00:52:39.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: small water impounding system, asr-000903 00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:40.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: well, logically, asr-000904 00:52:40.860 --> 00:52:42.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pero pa-confirm lang po, asr-000905 00:52:42.200 --> 00:52:43.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dun po itatayo sa mga area asr-000906 00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:45.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na ma-identify nyo sa pag-overlay asr-000907 00:52:45.600 --> 00:52:46.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga maps asr-000908 00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:48.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na pinaka ma-apektuhan asr-000909 00:52:48.060 --> 00:52:49.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng Super El Nino? asr-000910 00:52:52.300 --> 00:52:53.560 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Meron po tayo kasi asr-000911 00:52:53.560 --> 00:52:54.840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: kriterang ginagamit asr-000912 00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:56.900 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: dapat po siya ay malapit asr-000913 00:52:56.900 --> 00:52:57.580 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: sa spring. asr-000914 00:52:58.380 --> 00:52:59.500 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Sa mga spring asr-000915 00:52:59.500 --> 00:53:01.340 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: at saka nabuhay na spring. asr-000916 00:53:02.260 --> 00:53:04.520 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: At malapit. asr-000917 00:53:05.420 --> 00:53:06.400 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Dati po kasi, asr-000918 00:53:06.580 --> 00:53:07.480 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: yun ang pandilig natin asr-000919 00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:08.560 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: sa mga NGPs. asr-000920 00:53:08.700 --> 00:53:09.800 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Ngayon, nagagamit na rin po asr-000921 00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:10.380 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng mga tao. asr-000922 00:53:10.620 --> 00:53:11.820 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: So, nare-re-purpose na po asr-000923 00:53:11.820 --> 00:53:14.880 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: yung mga small water asr-000924 00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:16.880 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: impounding structures natin. asr-000925 00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:18.620 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: So, ang mahalaga po dito, asr-000926 00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:20.400 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: meron siyang source asr-000927 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:21.920 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: nabuhay na spring. asr-000928 00:53:22.640 --> 00:53:23.900 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: At yun po ang unang asr-000929 00:53:23.900 --> 00:53:24.780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: kriteriya sa magpapasakit. asr-000930 00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:25.960 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Pili ng location asr-000931 00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:27.860 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng ating mga Swiss. asr-000932 00:53:29.260 --> 00:53:30.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero kung i-check po natin asr-000933 00:53:30.560 --> 00:53:31.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung listahan ng mga asr-000934 00:53:31.700 --> 00:53:33.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasalukuyan at planong locations asr-000935 00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:34.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga Swiss, asr-000936 00:53:35.520 --> 00:53:36.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: bukod sa malapit siya asr-000937 00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:37.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa spring, asr-000938 00:53:38.140 --> 00:53:38.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: hindi po ba dapat asr-000939 00:53:38.980 --> 00:53:40.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung pangunahing kriteriya asr-000940 00:53:40.460 --> 00:53:42.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ay andun uunahin asr-000941 00:53:42.700 --> 00:53:43.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa mga area asr-000942 00:53:43.520 --> 00:53:44.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na pinakamalubahang asr-000943 00:53:44.940 --> 00:53:46.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ma-apektuhan ng El Nino? asr-000944 00:53:46.580 --> 00:53:47.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung tinanong po kanina asr-000945 00:53:47.420 --> 00:53:48.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kay USEC Analisa asr-000946 00:53:48.340 --> 00:53:49.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na pinaka asr-000947 00:53:49.120 --> 00:53:51.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: medyo lamang asr-000948 00:53:51.820 --> 00:53:53.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or bahagya lamang. asr-000949 00:53:53.100 --> 00:53:54.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hindi ba priority yun? asr-000950 00:53:54.300 --> 00:53:54.720 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Yes, ma'am. asr-000951 00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:56.720 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Isasama na rin po asr-000952 00:53:56.720 --> 00:53:57.320 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: sa priority asr-000953 00:53:57.320 --> 00:53:58.940 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: yung ma-apektuhan asr-000954 00:53:58.940 --> 00:54:00.160 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: lalo ng El Nino. asr-000955 00:54:01.100 --> 00:54:01.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Isa sa mga, asr-000956 00:54:02.300 --> 00:54:03.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: hindi nyo ba iniisip asr-000957 00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:03.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na gawin siya asr-000958 00:54:03.900 --> 00:54:04.620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung pinaka asr-000959 00:54:04.620 --> 00:54:06.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: importante, asr-000960 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:07.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pinakamataas asr-000961 00:54:07.300 --> 00:54:08.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na kriteriya? asr-000962 00:54:08.620 --> 00:54:09.480 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Yes, ma'am. asr-000963 00:54:09.560 --> 00:54:11.240 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: But as long as asr-000964 00:54:11.240 --> 00:54:12.720 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: siguro asr-000965 00:54:12.720 --> 00:54:14.340 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: i-redesign na lang asr-000966 00:54:14.340 --> 00:54:15.000 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: natin yun asr-000967 00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:15.460 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: para asr-000968 00:54:15.460 --> 00:54:18.840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: yung pangagalingan, asr-000969 00:54:19.900 --> 00:54:20.740 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ay may pangagalingan asr-000970 00:54:20.740 --> 00:54:21.380 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: siya, tubig. asr-000971 00:54:21.560 --> 00:54:23.300 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: At kung yun ay asr-000972 00:54:23.300 --> 00:54:25.260 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: apektado talaga, asr-000973 00:54:26.160 --> 00:54:27.320 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: magiging priority asr-000974 00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:28.620 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: areas po natin. asr-000975 00:54:29.680 --> 00:54:30.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pwede po bang makuha asr-000976 00:54:30.600 --> 00:54:31.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng subcommittee namin asr-000977 00:54:31.720 --> 00:54:33.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung listahan asr-000978 00:54:33.180 --> 00:54:34.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga locations? asr-000979 00:54:34.600 --> 00:54:34.880 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Apo. asr-000980 00:54:35.200 --> 00:54:35.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay po. asr-000981 00:54:35.660 --> 00:54:36.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kaya bang within this hearing asr-000982 00:54:36.860 --> 00:54:37.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or asr-000983 00:54:37.240 --> 00:54:38.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kaya ba within this hearing? asr-000984 00:54:38.940 --> 00:54:39.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, USEC Analisa? asr-000985 00:54:41.040 --> 00:54:42.020 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Madam Chair, asr-000986 00:54:42.500 --> 00:54:44.100 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: based on pag-asa forecast, asr-000987 00:54:44.240 --> 00:54:46.160 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: the NWRB listahang tubig, asr-000988 00:54:46.620 --> 00:54:48.040 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: the groundwater stress cities asr-000989 00:54:48.040 --> 00:54:48.920 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and areas with asr-000990 00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:50.040 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: water infra projects asr-000991 00:54:50.040 --> 00:54:50.620 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: such as asr-000992 00:54:50.620 --> 00:54:51.500 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: what Director asr-000993 00:54:51.500 --> 00:54:52.680 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Madpadrikella mentioned, asr-000994 00:54:52.680 --> 00:54:53.480 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Spring Development asr-000995 00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:54.280 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and Swiss, asr-000996 00:54:55.140 --> 00:54:55.720 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: approximately asr-000997 00:54:55.720 --> 00:54:57.360 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: 34% of asr-000998 00:54:57.360 --> 00:54:58.660 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: barangays nationwide asr-000999 00:54:58.660 --> 00:54:59.900 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: may be considered asr-001000 00:54:59.900 --> 00:55:00.800 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: for priority asr-001001 00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:01.540 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: interventions. asr-001002 00:55:02.180 --> 00:55:02.680 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Yung major hotspots asr-001003 00:55:03.260 --> 00:55:04.020 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: po na nakita asr-001004 00:55:04.020 --> 00:55:04.980 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: initially would be asr-001005 00:55:04.980 --> 00:55:05.640 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Masbate, asr-001006 00:55:06.620 --> 00:55:08.100 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: high drought exposure asr-001007 00:55:08.100 --> 00:55:08.920 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: with critical asr-001008 00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:09.920 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: off-grid coastal asr-001009 00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:10.680 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: supply gaps, asr-001010 00:55:12.260 --> 00:55:13.160 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Calapan City asr-001011 00:55:13.160 --> 00:55:14.540 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: in Oriental Mindora, asr-001012 00:55:14.740 --> 00:55:16.500 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: severe agricultural asr-001013 00:55:16.500 --> 00:55:18.640 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and urban water stress, asr-001014 00:55:19.420 --> 00:55:21.220 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and then Isabel Cluster po, asr-001015 00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:22.580 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: mga 7 LGUs yan. asr-001016 00:55:22.580 --> 00:55:23.580 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Opo, asr-001017 00:55:24.300 --> 00:55:24.580 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: addressing the asr-001018 00:55:25.340 --> 00:55:26.180 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Cagayan Valley asr-001019 00:55:26.180 --> 00:55:27.300 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: granary deficit, asr-001020 00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:27.960 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Madam Chair. asr-001021 00:55:30.120 --> 00:55:31.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Dito po sa Masbate, asr-001022 00:55:31.660 --> 00:55:32.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Calapan, asr-001023 00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:33.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Isabela, asr-001024 00:55:34.060 --> 00:55:35.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at Cagayan Valley, asr-001025 00:55:35.680 --> 00:55:38.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may operational na po ba asr-001026 00:55:38.420 --> 00:55:40.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at o may pinaplano na po bang asr-001027 00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:43.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga small water impounding facilities asr-001028 00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:44.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: end of this year asr-001029 00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:46.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: and into 2027? asr-001030 00:55:48.020 --> 00:55:50.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, back to Director Padrikella. asr-001031 00:55:52.580 --> 00:56:03.620 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Yes, ma'am. asr-001032 00:56:03.780 --> 00:56:04.540 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: For example, asr-001033 00:56:05.560 --> 00:56:07.400 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: since 2015, asr-001034 00:56:08.200 --> 00:56:09.140 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: meron na po tayong asr-001035 00:56:09.140 --> 00:56:10.280 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: sham sa Isabela asr-001036 00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:11.220 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: sa Region 2. asr-001037 00:56:15.720 --> 00:56:16.440 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: So, asr-001038 00:56:17.300 --> 00:56:18.820 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: as of 2026, asr-001039 00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:20.000 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: meron na po tayong asr-001040 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:21.240 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: sa Region 2 asr-001041 00:56:21.240 --> 00:56:21.960 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: na 45 asr-001042 00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:22.160 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: distraught, asr-001043 00:56:22.580 --> 00:56:24.660 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: with the capacity asr-001044 00:56:24.660 --> 00:56:29.880 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: of 3,019 cubic meters. asr-001045 00:56:32.180 --> 00:56:36.780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Sa Region 5, asr-001046 00:56:38.500 --> 00:56:40.000 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: kabuuan po ng Region 5, asr-001047 00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:41.620 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: meron na po tayong asr-001048 00:56:41.620 --> 00:56:43.160 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 160 structures asr-001049 00:56:43.160 --> 00:56:47.280 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: for 2,701 cubic meters. asr-001050 00:56:50.520 --> 00:56:51.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, yung asr-001051 00:56:51.580 --> 00:56:51.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung asr-001052 00:56:51.820 --> 00:56:55.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 160 small water impounding facilities asr-001053 00:56:55.560 --> 00:56:56.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Region 5, asr-001054 00:56:57.280 --> 00:56:58.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasama na po doon asr-001055 00:56:58.340 --> 00:56:59.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga nakalocate asr-001056 00:56:59.180 --> 00:56:59.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Masbate, asr-001057 00:57:00.220 --> 00:57:00.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tama po ba? asr-001058 00:57:01.820 --> 00:57:02.340 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Apo. asr-001059 00:57:02.640 --> 00:57:03.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kabuuan sa Region 2? asr-001060 00:57:04.120 --> 00:57:05.040 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Kabuuan na po yan. asr-001061 00:57:05.080 --> 00:57:06.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Meron po ba kayong bilang asr-001062 00:57:06.080 --> 00:57:07.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa Masbate lamang? asr-001063 00:57:08.060 --> 00:57:10.360 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: We can get that. asr-001064 00:57:10.380 --> 00:57:11.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Director. asr-001065 00:57:11.620 --> 00:57:11.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then, asr-001066 00:57:12.020 --> 00:57:13.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung 45 small water impounding asr-001067 00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: structures sa Region 2, asr-001068 00:57:16.120 --> 00:57:17.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasama na po bang asr-001069 00:57:17.080 --> 00:57:17.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mayroon sa asr-001070 00:57:17.940 --> 00:57:19.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasama na po ba asr-001071 00:57:19.380 --> 00:57:20.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung sham sa Isabela, asr-001072 00:57:20.980 --> 00:57:21.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: plus, asr-001073 00:57:21.200 --> 00:57:22.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: meron din ba sa asr-001074 00:57:22.180 --> 00:57:23.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Cagayan Valley? asr-001075 00:57:23.560 --> 00:57:24.720 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: We will get the details. asr-001076 00:57:24.720 --> 00:57:25.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please. asr-001077 00:57:25.200 --> 00:57:26.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, yung 9, asr-001078 00:57:26.500 --> 00:57:27.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yun na yung sa Isabela? asr-001079 00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:30.680 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: For Region 2, yun. asr-001080 00:57:30.860 --> 00:57:31.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 45. asr-001081 00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:32.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 45. asr-001082 00:57:32.820 --> 00:57:33.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: May nabanggit kayong asr-001083 00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:35.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 9 kanina sa Isabela, eh. asr-001084 00:57:35.620 --> 00:57:36.540 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 9 yun, ma'am, asr-001085 00:57:36.560 --> 00:57:37.340 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: noong 2015. asr-001086 00:57:37.540 --> 00:57:38.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, noong 2015 lamang. asr-001087 00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:39.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. asr-001088 00:57:39.560 --> 00:57:40.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, bago matapos asr-001089 00:57:40.720 --> 00:57:41.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung hiring pahingi po, asr-001090 00:57:41.620 --> 00:57:42.620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung disaggregated, asr-001091 00:57:42.900 --> 00:57:44.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: out of the 45, asr-001092 00:57:44.260 --> 00:57:45.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tigilan sa Isabela asr-001093 00:57:45.420 --> 00:57:46.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at Cagayan Valley. asr-001094 00:57:47.300 --> 00:57:48.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And yung sa Kalapan po, asr-001095 00:57:48.460 --> 00:57:49.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may small water impounding asr-001096 00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:50.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: structures na rin po? asr-001097 00:57:50.420 --> 00:57:52.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa 4B, sir. asr-001098 00:57:52.640 --> 00:57:53.600 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Sa 4B, asr-001099 00:57:54.160 --> 00:57:56.880 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: meron na po tayong asr-001100 00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:58.780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 70 sa kabuuan asr-001101 00:57:58.780 --> 00:57:59.520 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng Mimaropa asr-001102 00:57:59.520 --> 00:58:01.720 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: for a total cubic meter asr-001103 00:58:01.720 --> 00:58:03.480 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: of 3,804. asr-001104 00:58:03.940 --> 00:58:04.840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Ma'am, yung detaily po asr-001105 00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:05.640 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng ano sa asr-001106 00:58:05.640 --> 00:58:07.760 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: kung saan nakadistribute, asr-001107 00:58:07.860 --> 00:58:09.100 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: bibigyan po din namin kayo. asr-001108 00:58:09.180 --> 00:58:09.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please. asr-001109 00:58:09.780 --> 00:58:10.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat. asr-001110 00:58:10.240 --> 00:58:11.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Lalo na para dun sa apat asr-001111 00:58:11.460 --> 00:58:12.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: so far na in-identify asr-001112 00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:13.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung pinaka-apektado asr-001113 00:58:13.940 --> 00:58:15.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or pinaka-vulnerabling area. asr-001114 00:58:16.500 --> 00:58:16.940 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Yes, ma'am. asr-001115 00:58:17.120 --> 00:58:17.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po. asr-001116 00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:19.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then, asr-001117 00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:20.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: lahat-lahat, asr-001118 00:58:20.420 --> 00:58:21.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ilang small water asr-001119 00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:22.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: impounding facility ba asr-001120 00:58:22.780 --> 00:58:24.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ang kailangan pang itayo asr-001121 00:58:24.160 --> 00:58:26.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: overall? asr-001122 00:58:28.660 --> 00:58:31.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bukod sa 1,035 existing asr-001123 00:58:31.180 --> 00:58:35.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: plus yung ongoing this year asr-001124 00:58:35.240 --> 00:58:36.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: plus yung idadagdag nyo asr-001125 00:58:36.900 --> 00:58:37.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: next year asr-001126 00:58:37.560 --> 00:58:38.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para mag-generate pa asr-001127 00:58:38.560 --> 00:58:40.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng 50,000 cubic meters. asr-001128 00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:42.220 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Wala pa tayong target asr-001129 00:58:42.220 --> 00:58:43.180 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng 2028. asr-001130 00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:44.580 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Wala pa po kong target asr-001131 00:58:44.580 --> 00:58:46.500 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng 2028 onwards asr-001132 00:58:46.500 --> 00:58:48.460 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: hanggang 2027 pala po asr-001133 00:58:48.460 --> 00:58:49.020 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: nagka-target. asr-001134 00:58:49.180 --> 00:58:49.400 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: But, asr-001135 00:58:50.420 --> 00:58:51.420 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: we're sure asr-001136 00:58:51.420 --> 00:58:52.420 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: na kailangan po talaga asr-001137 00:58:52.420 --> 00:58:53.980 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng ating mga mamamayan asr-001138 00:58:53.980 --> 00:58:55.680 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng mga small water asr-001139 00:58:55.680 --> 00:58:56.920 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: impounding structures. asr-001140 00:58:57.400 --> 00:58:58.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I agree with you, asr-001141 00:58:58.320 --> 00:58:58.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Director. asr-001142 00:58:58.820 --> 00:58:59.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I'm sure also. asr-001143 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:00.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And bahagi yun asr-001144 00:59:00.940 --> 00:59:02.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nung una kaming asr-001145 00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:03.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nag-briefing ni Nasek Kuna, asr-001146 00:59:05.100 --> 00:59:06.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: lagi akong interesado asr-001147 00:59:06.100 --> 00:59:06.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: malaman asr-001148 00:59:06.500 --> 00:59:07.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ano yung strategic asr-001149 00:59:07.640 --> 00:59:10.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: trajectory ng department, asr-001150 00:59:10.260 --> 00:59:10.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ano yung vision asr-001151 00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:11.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng department asr-001152 00:59:11.540 --> 00:59:13.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa bansa natin asr-001153 00:59:13.460 --> 00:59:14.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: even beyond asr-001154 00:59:14.160 --> 00:59:16.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the current administration asr-001155 00:59:16.240 --> 00:59:17.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: into the next asr-001156 00:59:17.060 --> 00:59:18.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: administrations pa. asr-001157 00:59:18.760 --> 00:59:19.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, asr-001158 00:59:19.140 --> 00:59:20.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pakibigay din po asr-001159 00:59:20.660 --> 00:59:21.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung asr-001160 00:59:21.540 --> 00:59:23.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: importation na yan asr-001161 00:59:23.940 --> 00:59:25.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or kung kailan nyo asr-001162 00:59:25.240 --> 00:59:26.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: maseset asr-001163 00:59:26.180 --> 00:59:27.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung target na yun. asr-001164 00:59:27.500 --> 00:59:27.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pati, asr-001165 00:59:28.060 --> 00:59:29.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: gaano karaming dagdag na tubig asr-001166 00:59:29.660 --> 00:59:31.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ang kayang ipunin asr-001167 00:59:31.100 --> 00:59:31.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: itong mga asr-001168 00:59:31.940 --> 00:59:33.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kakailanganin pang asr-001169 00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:34.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga small water asr-001170 00:59:34.260 --> 00:59:35.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: impounding structures. asr-001171 00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:36.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Baka itong asr-001172 00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:37.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: huling follow-up question asr-001173 00:59:37.980 --> 00:59:38.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Paksang ito asr-001174 00:59:38.600 --> 00:59:39.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pwede nyo nang sagutin ngayon. asr-001175 00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:41.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Magkano po dapat asr-001176 00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:42.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: per unit asr-001177 00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:43.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at per size asr-001178 00:59:43.860 --> 00:59:45.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ang mga small water asr-001179 00:59:45.080 --> 00:59:46.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: impounding structures na yan? asr-001180 00:59:47.140 --> 00:59:49.120 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Ang ano po namin, asr-001181 00:59:49.140 --> 00:59:51.420 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ang size asr-001182 00:59:51.420 --> 00:59:53.040 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: and dimensions po asr-001183 00:59:53.040 --> 00:59:53.900 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng ating mga asr-001184 00:59:53.900 --> 00:59:56.220 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: mga Swiss, asr-001185 00:59:56.460 --> 00:59:58.580 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ranging from asr-001186 00:59:58.580 --> 00:59:59.620 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: six asr-001187 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:20.940 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: May 50. Meron tayong mga 50. Mga 50 ang pinakamalaki, tapos may mga 20 cubic meters, may mga ganyan po. Depende po ma'am sa kapasity ng source na magsusupray ng tubig sa ating mga structures. asr-001188 01:00:21.740 --> 01:00:28.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At magkano po dapat yung kayang mag-generate ng 50 cubic meters ng tubig? Magkano po dapat yung mag-generate ng 20 cubic meters? asr-001189 01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:35.780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Ang costing natin per cubic meter is P70,000. asr-001190 01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:41.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And yung 20 cubic meters po? asr-001191 01:00:42.120 --> 01:00:44.200 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: That's per cubic meter po. asr-001192 01:00:44.220 --> 01:00:45.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Per cubic meter. asr-001193 01:00:46.460 --> 01:00:52.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then given yung volume na kayang i-generate, i-multiply. P70,000 per cubic meter. asr-001196 01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:07.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So yung 550M na tinanggal sa forest development, particular na item na tinanggalan yung sa plantation? asr-001197 01:02:07.540 --> 01:02:08.840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Plantation, establishment. asr-001198 01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:18.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. Pero sabi nyo tuloy-tuloy yung para sa forest protection. Paano reflected sa budget nyo na tuloy-tuloy yung pagpupondo doon? asr-001199 01:02:18.640 --> 01:02:24.840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Hiwalay po siya. Yun po yung pag-establish natin ng mga forest, fire line. asr-001200 01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:25.540 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Fire line. asr-001201 01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:31.780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Sa forest protection. asr-001202 01:02:33.560 --> 01:02:40.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At sa mga yun po, binawasan din po ba yung budget? Maintained lang or dinagdagan? asr-001203 01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:47.980 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Maintained lang. Maintained lang. Maintained lang ang ating sa forest protection. asr-001204 01:02:48.660 --> 01:02:49.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Maintained lang. asr-001205 01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:55.020 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: So tama din naman po na mabuwasan muna dahil baka ma-extend pa ng El Nino. asr-001206 01:02:55.600 --> 01:02:56.260 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: At mag-a- asr-001207 01:02:56.260 --> 01:02:58.320 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Baka mawala. asr-001208 01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:05.080 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Punta sa wala ang tatarim natin dahil medyo tuyog pa nga po ang lupa hanggang sa isang taon pa. asr-001209 01:03:06.220 --> 01:03:20.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Baka pwede na lang natin balikan yan later. I'm not sure I agree na okay lang kung mababawasan dahil siyempre yung paglago din ng gubat natin makakatulong overall sa pagtugon or pag-mitigate sa epekto ng El Nino. asr-001210 01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:23.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Anyway, salamat po Director Fadriquella. asr-001211 01:03:25.340 --> 01:03:28.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Moving on sa mga water agencies. asr-001212 01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:33.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa luwa pa rin, ilang mga dagdag na tanong sa ngayon. asr-001213 01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:43.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, from Swiss to ilang mobile water treatment plants at atmospheric water generators yung binanggit ko kanina. asr-001214 01:03:44.540 --> 01:03:49.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Meron na ang luwa at yung mga water districts na ginagamit ngayon sa buong bansa. asr-001215 01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:56.780 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, Mr. Secretary, ma'am meron po kaming dalawang atmospheric water generators na nirorotate sa mga disaster areas. asr-001216 01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:58.820 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Naka-park na po sa luwa ngayon yan. asr-001217 01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:02.180 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Meron rin kaming mobile treatment plants na dalawa rin. asr-001218 01:04:02.700 --> 01:04:05.280 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Again, nirorotate namin yan pagka merong sakuna. asr-001219 01:04:05.740 --> 01:04:07.160 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Yun ang una naming pinapadala. asr-001220 01:04:07.740 --> 01:04:13.280 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Maganda lang po kasi dun sa atmospheric water generator, hospital grade na po kasi yung labas ng tubig dun eh. asr-001221 01:04:13.640 --> 01:04:22.100 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: For us, yung mobile water treatment facilities natin, kailangan mo ng source and then iti-filter niya tapos saka lang magagamit. asr-001222 01:04:22.380 --> 01:04:26.180 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Both have power units attached so we can deploy them anywhere. asr-001223 01:04:26.180 --> 01:04:28.400 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: But again, sa konti lang nito. asr-001224 01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:29.700 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Not enough. asr-001225 01:04:31.700 --> 01:04:34.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tama ba? Tigalawa pa lang? Meron ng buong bansa natin? asr-001226 01:04:35.600 --> 01:04:39.200 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, sorry. Sa luwa meron kaming tigdalawa. asr-001227 01:04:39.780 --> 01:04:45.260 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: There are other government agencies that use similar technologies and have similar units. asr-001228 01:04:47.500 --> 01:04:50.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Nama-marshall nyo ba yung mga equipment nilang iyon? asr-001229 01:04:50.940 --> 01:04:55.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Or nagko-coordinate ba kayo para to act in concert para dun sa El Nino? asr-001230 01:04:55.700 --> 01:04:57.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Madam Chair, nakakapag-coordinate po kami. asr-001231 01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:03.660 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: I think TPA and DSWD have similar units. asr-001232 01:05:06.460 --> 01:05:20.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So kung tigalawa, at least luwa, pero ilan yung inaasahang ma-procure pa o maidagdag nitong mga mobile water treatment plants at saka water generators by the end of 2026 at papasok sa 2027? asr-001233 01:05:21.420 --> 01:05:24.760 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, we're looking at internally generated funds to buy this. asr-001234 01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:28.820 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: But of course, government augmentation will speed up the process. asr-001235 01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:30.840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Kung makakapag-mabili. asr-001236 01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:36.840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Ang balak po namin doon is gamitin yung mga water bladders na ibibigay ng TENR. asr-001237 01:05:37.600 --> 01:05:46.940 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Pupunuin na po namin ng tubig yun at i-replace namin sa mga water districts na na-identify namin na talagang magiging stressful ang kanilang sitwasyon. asr-001238 01:05:47.620 --> 01:05:51.620 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Gagamitin rin namin yan to fill water lorries for deployment. asr-001239 01:05:52.100 --> 01:05:54.000 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Pwede kasi silang patakboy ng 24 hours. asr-001240 01:05:54.160 --> 01:05:58.280 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Tapos magpupunun lang tayo ng mga tanket bladders. asr-001241 01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:01.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ilang water bladders na ang nasa kamay ng department? asr-001242 01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:07.000 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, parang ano yata? 13 or 15? asr-001243 01:06:09.560 --> 01:06:12.780 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: 30. 30 pala. Sorry Madam Chair. 30. asr-001244 01:06:13.160 --> 01:06:17.740 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 1-3 Madam Chair. 1-3. 13. asr-001245 01:06:18.020 --> 01:06:19.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 13 lamang. Oo, Secretary. asr-001246 01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:23.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And sapat na po ba yun? asr-001247 01:06:23.520 --> 01:06:28.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Or balak din ang department na mag-procure whether by the end of the year or sa bago? asr-001248 01:06:28.940 --> 01:06:30.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Noong taong 2027. asr-001249 01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:36.880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: If we have the funding Madam Chair, we can add to this. asr-001250 01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:45.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: From 13, ilan ang optimal at efficient number na dapat merong ang department? asr-001251 01:06:50.560 --> 01:06:52.200 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Sir Secretary, Madam Chair. asr-001252 01:06:53.820 --> 01:06:55.700 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Ma'am, if I may suggest. asr-001253 01:06:55.720 --> 01:06:56.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Admin Salonga. asr-001254 01:06:56.920 --> 01:06:57.900 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Kahit 50. asr-001255 01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:08.440 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: 50 po. Para we can replace them immediately in large water districts for deployment in areas na talagang wala. asr-001256 01:07:08.820 --> 01:07:13.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Nandiyan na ba yan sa proposed budget ng department sa line item na yun? asr-001257 01:07:13.560 --> 01:07:14.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa luwa po. asr-001258 01:07:14.660 --> 01:07:15.380 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Sa luwa? asr-001259 01:07:15.520 --> 01:07:17.420 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Opo. Bibigay na lang po namin sa inyo. asr-001260 01:07:17.720 --> 01:07:19.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. So wala pa dun sa ngayon? asr-001261 01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:25.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. So this is times 4 ng current na meron na 13. asr-001262 01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:26.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. asr-001263 01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:31.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Then, syempre, nasa ilalim nyo yung mga water districts. asr-001264 01:07:31.520 --> 01:07:36.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano nyo ipopromote yung collaboration sa pagitan ng mga water districts? asr-001265 01:07:36.560 --> 01:07:39.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Lalo na yung mga adjacent, yung mga magkakatabi. asr-001266 01:07:40.060 --> 01:07:47.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Limbawa, may sapat na tubig yung isang water district pero nagkukulang naman yung katabing lugar, yung adjacent na lugar. asr-001267 01:07:47.980 --> 01:07:52.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano nyo sila matutulungan magbahagi ng supply sa isa't isa? asr-001268 01:07:52.900 --> 01:07:57.440 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, Mr. Secretary, actually yun po maganda dun sa water district regime natin. asr-001269 01:07:57.720 --> 01:07:58.360 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Talagang. asr-001270 01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:05.160 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: In the 53 years ng luwa, nagkaroon sila ng parang coordination amongst their clustered water districts. asr-001271 01:08:05.160 --> 01:08:06.940 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So talagang nagtutulungan sila. asr-001272 01:08:07.060 --> 01:08:17.120 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Even in events of travesty or merong sakuna dun, ang unang response ng water district is from the neighboring water district. asr-001273 01:08:17.660 --> 01:08:23.640 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Bago before big government moves in, yung mga magkakatabing water districts ang nagtutulungan. asr-001274 01:08:24.040 --> 01:08:25.720 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So we can actually pre-place them. asr-001275 01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:28.560 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Saka hindi naman ako nababahala na hindi sila magtutulungan. asr-001276 01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:30.840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Talagang nagtutulungan po sila. asr-001277 01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:40.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So walang kailangan kayong ipromote? May reflex na, may natural behavior na sila? asr-001278 01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:47.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Or meron pa ba kayong idadagdag na pako-ordination sa kanila sa harap ng Super El Nino? asr-001279 01:08:47.500 --> 01:08:51.320 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, nandun na po sa memorandum circular po yun. Tapos clustered po sila. asr-001280 01:08:51.700 --> 01:08:54.660 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Meron rin sila mga regional organization ng water districts. asr-001281 01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:58.660 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So madali silang makapag-move, communicate, and help each other. asr-001282 01:08:58.840 --> 01:08:59.900 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Other in times of tragedy. asr-001283 01:09:00.900 --> 01:09:09.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Balik na rin naman natin, paano nyo i-handle kung magkaroon ng conflict o kaya disputes sa pagitan nitong mga water districts? asr-001284 01:09:10.400 --> 01:09:11.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pati LGUs, no? asr-001285 01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:19.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung mga nag-host ng water sources at yung mga LGU na purely consumer lang ng tubig. asr-001286 01:09:19.320 --> 01:09:28.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Parang writ small yung sinasabing tension lagi sa, kunyari, mga regyon sa mundo tulad ng Middle East na tubig talaga ang pinakamahalaga asr-001287 01:09:28.180 --> 01:09:29.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at maaring pag-awayang resource. asr-001288 01:09:30.020 --> 01:09:35.920 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, nakikita namin yan. Pero yung water allocation is actually not a distribution issue. asr-001289 01:09:36.300 --> 01:09:39.340 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: It's more of an allocation dito galing po sa NWRB. asr-001290 01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:48.260 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: But nakikita na namin yan ngayon kasi for example, there are some metro water districts that take water from other cities asr-001291 01:09:48.260 --> 01:09:54.100 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: and yung local city that hosts the water source want to de-annex to preserve their own water source. asr-001292 01:09:54.100 --> 01:09:56.820 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So meron na pong conflicts na ganyan nangyayari. asr-001293 01:09:56.820 --> 01:10:09.020 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Kasi sinusubukan na lang naming ayusin by ensuring that the host water, the host LGU that has the water is first satisfied doon sa demands nila. asr-001294 01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:14.540 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: At that level, kaya ng luwa. Pero yung allocation po mismo ng water source, hindi po sa amin doon. asr-001295 01:10:15.540 --> 01:10:20.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Baka sometimes during this hearing, gustong mag-weigh in ang NWRB tungkol dito. asr-001296 01:10:23.780 --> 01:10:25.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano pinipreempt or nire-resolve? asr-001297 01:10:25.940 --> 01:10:30.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kapag nga magkaroon ng ganitong conflict or disputes. asr-001298 01:10:30.280 --> 01:10:32.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Would you like to input something at this point, Dr. David? asr-001299 01:10:33.240 --> 01:10:37.200 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yes, ma'am. Good afternoon, Madam Chair. With the permission of the Secretary. asr-001300 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:47.580 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yes, Madam Chair. In terms of allocation and water rights, ang NWRB po is with the authority and quasi-judicial function asr-001301 01:10:47.580 --> 01:10:51.700 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: to resolve po yung mga conflicts between bar use, water use. asr-001302 01:10:51.700 --> 01:10:55.020 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: But of course, as per water code po, Madam Chair, asr-001303 01:10:55.940 --> 01:11:04.940 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: priority po yung domestic and household use in the evaluation and assessment of water use or water rights. asr-001304 01:11:05.160 --> 01:11:16.520 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: At of course, tinitingnan po natin din dyan yung availability ng tubig po for a certain area kung saan po nagkakaroon ng conflict. asr-001305 01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:25.920 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: But of course, with the condition that must priority po yung domestic and household use over irrigation and of course power and other. asr-001306 01:11:25.940 --> 01:11:38.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa ngayon po, Dr. David, may bilang na ba kayo ng mga magkakatabi or adjacent na water districts na mayroon or magkakaroon ng ganitong dispute o conflict? asr-001307 01:11:38.480 --> 01:11:45.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So between isang water-resourced at yung isang water-dependent na water district or LGU? asr-001308 01:11:45.660 --> 01:11:51.740 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yes po, Madam Chair. Meron po kaming mga listing ng potential conflict. asr-001309 01:11:51.740 --> 01:11:55.280 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: But usually po, di naman between water district. asr-001310 01:11:55.940 --> 01:12:01.720 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Actually po, between water district and the local government unit or some water service providers po. asr-001311 01:12:02.660 --> 01:12:07.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mga ilan yung ganitong dispute or conflict areas all over the country? asr-001312 01:12:08.020 --> 01:12:13.160 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: If with the provision of the Chair, pwede po namin i-provide yung list later on. asr-001313 01:12:13.620 --> 01:12:16.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Please do. Either during this hearing or bago nung plenary. asr-001314 01:12:16.700 --> 01:12:25.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And in general, kung ilan man ang mga ito na may actual or potential conflict, may sapat na panahon ba? asr-001315 01:12:25.460 --> 01:12:31.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ang NWRB para i-resolve ito bago tumama yung pinakamalakas na epekto ng Super El Nino? asr-001316 01:12:32.040 --> 01:12:37.540 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Ang strategy po na Madam Chair ngayon is to resolve yung mga conflict kung saan po yung mga water stress. asr-001317 01:12:37.640 --> 01:12:40.760 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: You prioritize po kung saan po yung mga water stress areas. asr-001318 01:12:41.900 --> 01:12:50.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Priority nyo. Pero hindi ko matansya yung scale kasi bibigay nyo pa lang sa subcommittee namin yung bilang. asr-001319 01:12:50.780 --> 01:12:55.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero kakayanin nyo po ba ma-resolve itong mga priority? asr-001320 01:12:55.460 --> 01:13:01.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Conflict or dispute areas bago pa nga yung kasagsagan ng Super El Nino? asr-001321 01:13:02.180 --> 01:13:06.200 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: We will tingnan po muna namin yung timeline, Madam Chair. asr-001322 01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:13.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sige po. Pahingin na lang nung data na yun para matignan din yung subcommittee namin. asr-001323 01:13:14.460 --> 01:13:22.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then, last sa paksang ito, nakausap nyo na po ba ang DPWH? asr-001324 01:13:23.180 --> 01:13:24.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Whether NWRB or LUA? asr-001325 01:13:25.460 --> 01:13:34.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Usap ba ang DP ukol sa pagtap ng pondo para sa level 1 water supply system since yan po ang hawak ng DP? asr-001326 01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:36.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Administrator Salonga. asr-001327 01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:39.680 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, Mr. Secretary, bukas po may meeting po kami. asr-001328 01:13:40.900 --> 01:13:43.700 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Makipag-meeting po ako kay Sec. Dizon regarding that matter. asr-001329 01:13:45.080 --> 01:13:46.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: When are you meeting the Secretary? asr-001330 01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:47.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tomorrow po. asr-001331 01:13:47.060 --> 01:13:50.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sorry, tomorrow. Okay, great. So well within the budget season. asr-001332 01:13:50.480 --> 01:13:53.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paki-update na lang yung subcommittee namin tungkol dyan. asr-001333 01:13:55.460 --> 01:14:04.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Before we move on to the MWSSRO, just a few follow-up questions. asr-001334 01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:06.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ayan, bago lang magpatuloy. asr-001335 01:14:06.860 --> 01:14:13.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tanong kay Sec. Kuna, ipipresent nyo po ba yung budget ng OSEC and attached agencies? asr-001336 01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:22.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Para yung mga slides makita at mapag-usapan natin. asr-001337 01:14:22.420 --> 01:14:22.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Oo. asr-001338 01:14:24.340 --> 01:14:25.440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, we just. asr-001339 01:14:25.460 --> 01:14:28.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please. Thank you. So you'll be able to do that during this hearing? asr-001340 01:14:29.140 --> 01:14:38.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, better. Kasi ganun din kami sanay na may pace at saka may supporting visuals. asr-001341 01:14:38.780 --> 01:14:42.640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, if I may add, still on the same topic on El Nino. asr-001342 01:14:43.400 --> 01:14:52.480 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We have, through an executive order in 2023 from the President, the Water Resource Management Office was created. asr-001343 01:14:52.480 --> 01:15:00.100 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Supposedly, it was a precursor for the Department of Water, Madam Chair. asr-001355 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:13.380 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So this is under the DENR, which is why we have integrated the other water-related offices under this WRMO, namely NWRB. asr-001344 01:15:00.120 --> 01:15:01.400 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: ... asr-001356 01:15:13.540 --> 01:15:22.800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Well, NWRB has been our attached agency since time immemorial, but the LUA and the MWSS, kasama na rin po namin. asr-001357 01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:30.320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: But under the WRMO itself, they have some proposed projects also for next year. asr-001358 01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:34.960 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: But actually, they're existing projects and there are some projects proposed for next year. asr-001359 01:15:35.040 --> 01:15:39.800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: These are specifically water filtration program, desalination. asr-001360 01:15:40.860 --> 01:15:46.340 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: These are small infrastructure, small structures, Madam Chair. asr-001361 01:15:46.340 --> 01:15:52.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Water filtration for fresh water and then refilling stations, water tanks. asr-001362 01:15:52.120 --> 01:15:54.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: For water districts or LGUs. asr-001363 01:15:54.260 --> 01:16:02.320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And then yung geo-resistivity survey, Madam Chair, which is essentially like exploration for more water resources. asr-001364 01:16:03.360 --> 01:16:05.700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So there's a budget proposed for this. asr-001365 01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:12.320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: It's 223,064,000 total for these different. asr-001366 01:16:12.420 --> 01:16:17.920 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: There are existing projects already, Madam Chair, which I have actually personally visited a few of them. asr-001367 01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:20.920 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And they're very beneficial. asr-001368 01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:35.720 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Beneficial in the sense that most of these identified areas we chose were those which were very hard to reach or underserved talaga in terms of access to water, Madam Chair. asr-001369 01:16:36.860 --> 01:16:43.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And SEC, itong 223,000,000 para sa lahat ng klase ng mga small water impounding systems na ito. asr-001370 01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:46.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasama na po ba ito dun sa... asr-001371 01:16:46.020 --> 01:16:46.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Madam Chair, if I may. asr-001372 01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:47.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hindi ko mga... asr-001373 01:16:48.460 --> 01:16:49.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hindi ko mga Swiss ito. asr-001374 01:16:49.080 --> 01:16:49.560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Sorry. asr-001375 01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:50.560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Water filtration program. asr-001376 01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:51.800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Programs yung iba. asr-001377 01:16:53.060 --> 01:16:54.320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Summer desalination. asr-001378 01:16:54.480 --> 01:16:55.280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yung iba, fresh water. asr-001379 01:16:55.420 --> 01:16:57.560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Para lang maging potable to the people. asr-001380 01:16:57.960 --> 01:16:58.600 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: The access lang. asr-001381 01:16:58.700 --> 01:17:10.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Because many of these are in island communities, island barangays, or really far-flung areas that people have to travel very far to get access to water. asr-001382 01:17:10.120 --> 01:17:16.460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So there are certain areas that we pinpointed that we put up these projects, Madam Chair. asr-001383 01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:20.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, SEC. asr-001384 01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:32.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So before we go on to the MWRO, a question actually na nabanggit din kanina about, I think it was the Secretary, about Manila Water, Maynilad, for example. asr-001385 01:17:34.440 --> 01:17:43.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paalala lang, SEC or USEC Annalisa, to please prepare the data for the subcommittee on the most vulnerable areas. asr-001386 01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:47.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Most, middling, and least vulnerable to Super El Nino. asr-001387 01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:50.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And kung handa na rin kayo at that point with the... asr-001388 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:57.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Overlay map para ma-read into the record yung mga areas most vulnerable dun sa Super El Nino. asr-001389 01:17:58.440 --> 01:18:01.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Are you ready already now, USEC Annalisa, or shall, in a bit? asr-001390 01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:09.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Our technical person is not here to show the overlay of the map, but... asr-001391 01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:12.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Babalik ba siya? Darating ba siya later in the hearing? asr-001392 01:18:13.280 --> 01:18:16.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Usually, pag-budget hearing, the technical people are here. asr-001393 01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:17.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bakit wala? asr-001394 01:18:18.220 --> 01:18:20.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: We did that into the mapping. asr-001395 01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:28.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: We need the data on the most vulnerable areas, and pag-visual, mas nakakatulong, pati sa subcommittee. asr-001396 01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:31.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, that can be read into the record. asr-001397 01:18:32.380 --> 01:18:34.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sige, ma'am, we'll wait for that during this hearing. asr-001398 01:18:34.160 --> 01:18:37.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, let's go on to questions to the MWRO. asr-001399 01:18:40.280 --> 01:18:40.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sino po? asr-001400 01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:44.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Chief Regulator T. asr-001401 01:18:45.260 --> 01:18:45.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes. asr-001402 01:18:45.500 --> 01:18:45.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, sir. asr-001403 01:18:47.240 --> 01:18:50.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, moving from DNR... asr-001404 01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:58.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ano naman naghahanda para sa Super El Nino, yung mga malalaking water concessionaires ng MWSS, so, Maynilad and Manila Water? asr-001405 01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:01.280 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Secretary. asr-001406 01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:06.620 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: With the MWSSRO actually started preparations and planning for an El Nino last 2022. asr-001407 01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:13.360 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: We have a presentation here, if you'll allow us to present the significant figures of what we have done. asr-001408 01:19:13.660 --> 01:19:14.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please proceed. asr-001409 01:19:14.580 --> 01:19:14.880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Thank you. asr-001410 01:19:15.160 --> 01:19:20.160 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The experience of 2026 provides perhaps the clearest illustration of why continued investment, asr-001411 01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:24.020 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: innovation, and effective regulation are so important to our water sector. asr-001412 01:19:24.020 --> 01:19:30.820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Last July, Angat Dam reached 150 meters, the lowest level ever recorded. asr-001413 01:19:31.380 --> 01:19:38.740 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The previous record low was at 157 meters, a level that would normally result in water service interruptions. asr-001414 01:19:39.200 --> 01:19:42.840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Despite reaching this historic low, we did not experience a water crisis. asr-001415 01:19:43.340 --> 01:19:44.440 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This was not by chance. asr-001416 01:19:44.820 --> 01:19:49.060 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: It was made possible by the timely implementation of critical water projects asr-001417 01:19:49.060 --> 01:19:50.740 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: combined with operations in the MWRO. asr-001418 01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:53.840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The MWSSRO has made substantial adjustments and mitigating measures undertaken by the concessionaires asr-001419 01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:57.160 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: in coordination and monitored by the MWSS Regulatory Office. asr-001420 01:19:57.660 --> 01:20:02.540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: First, on the supply augmentation, Manila Water has started several projects asr-001421 01:20:02.540 --> 01:20:08.100 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: and several projects since the 2022 rate rebasing, and several have already been delivered. asr-001422 01:20:08.240 --> 01:20:15.900 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This includes the 50 MLD East Bay Phase 1 water treatment plant and the 15 MLD Marikina Portable treatment plant. asr-001423 01:20:15.900 --> 01:20:20.680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: We are also maximizing existing facilities, including the optimization of the Cardona, asr-001424 01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:25.500 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Water Treatment Plant that sources water from Laguna Lake and the Calauis Treatment Plant asr-001425 01:20:25.500 --> 01:20:27.900 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: that is sourcing water from the Upper Wawa Dam. asr-001426 01:20:28.340 --> 01:20:33.980 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This is the first dam since the 1960s that was delivered for portable water in Metro Manila. asr-001427 01:20:34.620 --> 01:20:39.680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: And in the coming months, additional capacity is expected from East Bay Phase 2, asr-001428 01:20:40.020 --> 01:20:47.080 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: 200 MLD by the month of October, and the Kaisaka Treatment Plant with 220 MLD by November 2026. asr-001429 01:20:47.080 --> 01:20:50.740 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: These projects demonstrate an important principle, water security, asr-001430 01:20:50.760 --> 01:20:52.760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: cannot depend on a single source. asr-001431 01:20:52.760 --> 01:21:02.660 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: We need multiple sources, multiple treatment facilities, and multiple options that can be activated depending on the actual conditions. asr-001432 01:21:02.660 --> 01:21:07.000 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The same approach is being undertaken by Manila in the West Zone. asr-001433 01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:09.000 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Next slide, please. asr-001434 01:21:10.200 --> 01:21:14.200 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This includes the Anabu, Julian, and Molino Modular Treatment Plants, asr-001435 01:21:14.200 --> 01:21:18.680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: which provides additional treatment facilities, particularly in the province of Cavite. asr-001436 01:21:18.680 --> 01:21:20.660 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Manila is also developing alternative water treatment plants, which are also being developed in the West Zone. asr-001437 01:21:20.660 --> 01:21:23.460 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This includes administrative water sources through its new water projects. asr-001438 01:21:23.460 --> 01:21:28.840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: In Paranaque, treated waste water will undergo further treatment to produce asr-001439 01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:31.720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: portable water that can be delivered to Manila customers. asr-001440 01:21:31.720 --> 01:21:37.100 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This is an important development because it allows us to look beyond traditional raw water sources asr-001441 01:21:37.100 --> 01:21:42.000 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: and make use of technologies that can provide additional and more resilient sources of supply. asr-001442 01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:48.060 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The new water programme will also be expanded through additional facilities in Valenzuela and Pasay in the coming months. asr-001443 01:21:48.060 --> 01:21:50.040 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I would like to also raise that this new water supply programme will be expanded in the next two years, asr-001444 01:21:50.040 --> 01:21:50.580 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: It will be expanded to additional facilities in Valenzuela and Pasay in the coming months. asr-001445 01:21:50.580 --> 01:21:56.180 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: facility of manila of manila is actually the first in asia to do direct portable resource reuse asr-001446 01:21:57.300 --> 01:22:01.700 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: so at the same time uh my net is also continuing to optimize its upgrading its asr-001447 01:22:01.700 --> 01:22:08.020 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: southern treatment plants including potato one two and population to help offset reduced production asr-001448 01:22:08.020 --> 01:22:12.660 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: from the lamesa treatment plants so our strategy is not simply to find one new source of water asr-001449 01:22:12.660 --> 01:22:17.300 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: it is to develop several sources and maximize the available option next slide please asr-001450 01:22:17.300 --> 01:22:26.100 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: next time please second water security is not only about producing more water it's also about asr-001451 01:22:26.100 --> 01:22:30.580 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: managing the water we already have that is why operational adjustments and effective asr-001452 01:22:30.580 --> 01:22:35.220 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: regulations become critical both concessionaires are implementing pressure management through asr-001453 01:22:35.220 --> 01:22:40.340 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: pressure regulating valves and controllers to ensure that available water is distributed as asr-001454 01:22:40.340 --> 01:22:46.420 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: efficiently and equitably as possible they are also using real-time monitoring and demand projections asr-001456 01:22:47.300 --> 01:22:49.260 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: of reservoir levels. This allows asr-001457 01:22:49.260 --> 01:22:51.260 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: them to respond to current demands while maintaining asr-001458 01:22:51.260 --> 01:22:53.320 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: sufficient storage for the following day. asr-001459 01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:55.400 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Third, asr-001460 01:22:55.980 --> 01:22:56.820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: non-revenue water. asr-001461 01:22:57.220 --> 01:22:59.480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I think the Madam Chair asr-001462 01:22:59.480 --> 01:23:01.380 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: was mentioning about non-revenue water. asr-001463 01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:03.460 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Non-revenue water is one of the areas asr-001464 01:23:03.460 --> 01:23:05.300 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: where we can recover water that is asr-001465 01:23:05.300 --> 01:23:07.060 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: already being produced but is asr-001466 01:23:07.060 --> 01:23:09.260 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: being lost before it reaches consumers. asr-001467 01:23:09.780 --> 01:23:11.320 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: For Manila water, the target asr-001468 01:23:11.320 --> 01:23:13.260 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: is to maintain non-revenue water asr-001469 01:23:13.260 --> 01:23:15.300 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: below 15%. It is already at asr-001470 01:23:15.300 --> 01:23:17.180 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: the international level since the asr-001471 01:23:17.180 --> 01:23:19.020 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: target for international is really asr-001472 01:23:19.020 --> 01:23:20.780 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: 20%. For Manila, asr-001473 01:23:21.280 --> 01:23:23.060 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: while non-revenue water is still at asr-001474 01:23:23.060 --> 01:23:25.340 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: 29%, this has been reduced asr-001475 01:23:25.340 --> 01:23:27.220 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: from 44% last asr-001476 01:23:27.220 --> 01:23:28.940 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: 2021 to just asr-001477 01:23:28.940 --> 01:23:31.120 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: 29% today. This represents asr-001478 01:23:31.120 --> 01:23:32.760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: a significant reduction in a few asr-001479 01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:35.240 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: years. We're asr-001480 01:23:35.240 --> 01:23:36.820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: talking about just a three-year reduction of asr-001481 01:23:36.820 --> 01:23:38.880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: more than 10%, asr-001482 01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:41.100 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: which resulted in the recovery of asr-001483 01:23:41.100 --> 01:23:42.640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: nearly 500 MLD. asr-001484 01:23:43.160 --> 01:23:45.040 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: In simple terms, every reduction asr-001485 01:23:45.040 --> 01:23:47.000 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: in physical water losses means more asr-001486 01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:48.800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: water that can actually be delivered to asr-001487 01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:50.680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: consumers without having to develop asr-001488 01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:52.120 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: an entirely new source. asr-001489 01:23:52.620 --> 01:23:53.140 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Next slide, please. asr-001490 01:23:55.300 --> 01:23:56.720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Fourth, we are also asr-001491 01:23:56.720 --> 01:23:58.780 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: looking at other options that we can asr-001492 01:23:58.780 --> 01:24:00.720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: do to help our efforts asr-001493 01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:02.420 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: in case that asr-001494 01:24:02.420 --> 01:24:04.820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: existing supplies may not be sufficient. asr-001495 01:24:05.240 --> 01:24:06.760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This includes maintaining asr-001496 01:24:06.760 --> 01:24:08.760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: emergency resources such as asr-001497 01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:10.800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: mobile water tankers and static water asr-001498 01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:12.820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: tanks, as well as rain catchers and additional asr-001499 01:24:12.820 --> 01:24:14.760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: reservoir capacities. All of these asr-001500 01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:16.540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: measures point to one objective, asr-001501 01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:18.660 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: resilience. We are ensuring that asr-001502 01:24:18.660 --> 01:24:20.560 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Metro Manila will not suffer any asr-001503 01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:22.520 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: water service interruption or any water asr-001504 01:24:22.520 --> 01:24:24.520 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: crisis. That is the commitment that we made asr-001505 01:24:24.520 --> 01:24:26.460 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: in 2022, and that is the commitment asr-001506 01:24:26.460 --> 01:24:28.600 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: that we intend to keep. Thank you. asr-001507 01:24:29.320 --> 01:24:30.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you. I hope there are asr-001508 01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:32.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: MWSS-like agencies asr-001509 01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:34.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: all over the country na may ganong target asr-001510 01:24:34.740 --> 01:24:36.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: din sa mga lugar sa labas ng asr-001511 01:24:36.700 --> 01:24:38.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Metro Manila. Anyway, asr-001512 01:24:39.060 --> 01:24:40.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: so Chief Regulator T, kanina asr-001513 01:24:40.400 --> 01:24:42.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pinag-uusapan, ano yung asr-001514 01:24:42.280 --> 01:24:44.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: coordination at conflict resolution with asr-001515 01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:46.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: in water districts. Ngayon, yung asr-001516 01:24:46.700 --> 01:24:48.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: isang tanong ko sa inyo, may asr-001517 01:24:48.440 --> 01:24:50.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: naka-set up na po bang parang asr-001518 01:24:50.080 --> 01:24:52.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pass-through arrangement asr-001519 01:24:52.160 --> 01:24:54.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para payagan yung isang water asr-001520 01:24:54.320 --> 01:24:56.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: concessionaire na mag-supply asr-001521 01:24:56.820 --> 01:24:58.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng tubig sa mga lugar na sakop ng asr-001522 01:24:58.560 --> 01:25:00.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ibang water concessionaire, pero asr-001523 01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:02.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may water supply shortfall doon? asr-001524 01:25:03.240 --> 01:25:05.000 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Right now, we are asr-001525 01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:06.640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: actually asr-001526 01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:08.620 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: discussing with Manila Water asr-001527 01:25:08.620 --> 01:25:10.880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: and Mainland to pass on to themselves. asr-001528 01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:13.040 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Right now, they're asr-001529 01:25:13.040 --> 01:25:14.640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: probably going to enter into that asr-001530 01:25:14.760 --> 01:25:16.540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: water supply agreement just in case for asr-001531 01:25:16.540 --> 01:25:18.280 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: emergency. So, Manila Water asr-001532 01:25:18.280 --> 01:25:20.640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: has actually excess capacity and asr-001533 01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:22.480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: they will be selling this water to Mainilad asr-001534 01:25:22.480 --> 01:25:24.100 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: just for redundancy purposes. asr-001535 01:25:24.660 --> 01:25:26.720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Now, with regard to doing that asr-001536 01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:28.820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: outside, we are also exploring that. asr-001537 01:25:28.960 --> 01:25:30.760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: We are exploring that in asr-001538 01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:32.800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: doing that in Laguna, asr-001539 01:25:33.260 --> 01:25:34.940 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: but that's asr-001540 01:25:34.940 --> 01:25:36.020 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: still subject for discussion. asr-001541 01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:38.440 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Right now, we are also doing it for Rizal. asr-001542 01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:40.680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: There's an existing asr-001543 01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:42.680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: bulk water supply agreement for several asr-001544 01:25:42.680 --> 01:25:44.740 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: water districts in the province of Rizal. asr-001545 01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:46.300 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Because that is also part of the asr-001546 01:25:46.300 --> 01:25:48.480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: concession area of Manila Water. asr-001547 01:25:49.120 --> 01:25:50.900 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: But if it's asr-001548 01:25:50.900 --> 01:25:52.400 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: going to be outside Metro Manila, asr-001549 01:25:52.540 --> 01:25:54.460 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: outside the concession area, there's also asr-001550 01:25:54.460 --> 01:25:56.900 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: the MWSS Corporate Office also has a asr-001551 01:25:56.900 --> 01:25:58.720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: bulk water supply agreement with Bulacan. asr-001552 01:25:59.540 --> 01:26:00.620 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So, those are the asr-001553 01:26:00.620 --> 01:26:02.700 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: outside the Metro Manila asr-001554 01:26:02.700 --> 01:26:04.580 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: bulk water supply agreements that we are asr-001555 01:26:04.580 --> 01:26:06.740 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: currently looking into, but we asr-001556 01:26:06.740 --> 01:26:08.600 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: are also exploring other options to asr-001557 01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:10.880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: assist the other areas that needs assistance. asr-001558 01:26:11.480 --> 01:26:11.800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Thank you. asr-001559 01:26:11.800 --> 01:26:13.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, sinimulan nyo lang banggitin yung mga asr-001560 01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:14.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: lalawigan sa... asr-001561 01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:16.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Central Luzon sa Southern Tagalog, asr-001562 01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:19.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: particular yung Bulacan, paano asr-001563 01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:20.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: naman kaya tinutulungan ng asr-001564 01:26:20.480 --> 01:26:22.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: regulatory office nyo, asr-001565 01:26:22.680 --> 01:26:25.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung pag-share ng tubig asr-001566 01:26:25.340 --> 01:26:26.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mula Anggat Dam asr-001567 01:26:26.460 --> 01:26:29.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: with Bulacan Bulk Water asr-001568 01:26:29.180 --> 01:26:30.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: saka water districts asr-001569 01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:32.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa lalawigan, dun sa asr-001570 01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:35.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: hosting province ng Bulacan? asr-001571 01:26:35.200 --> 01:26:36.920 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Sir, that is actually under asr-001572 01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:38.940 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: the MWSS Corporate asr-001573 01:26:38.940 --> 01:26:40.880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Office. I'm from the regulatory office, asr-001574 01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:42.800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: but I know that a part of the asr-001575 01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:44.740 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: allocation from the Anggat Dam and the asr-001576 01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:46.960 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: NWRB, there's an allocation asr-001577 01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:48.820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: for the Bulacan Bulk. But I think asr-001578 01:26:48.820 --> 01:26:50.900 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: the NWRB is in a better position to asr-001579 01:26:50.900 --> 01:26:52.840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: answer that. Yes, could asr-001580 01:26:52.840 --> 01:26:54.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the NWRB weigh in on this? asr-001581 01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:56.840 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yes, Madam Chair, from the asr-001582 01:26:56.840 --> 01:26:59.020 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: allocation being released asr-001583 01:26:59.020 --> 01:27:01.180 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: from the Anggat Dam, meron pong asr-001584 01:27:01.180 --> 01:27:03.000 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: share yung Bulacan Bulk asr-001585 01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:05.040 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: for the Bulacan asr-001586 01:27:05.040 --> 01:27:06.640 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: stakeholders po. asr-001587 01:27:06.940 --> 01:27:07.780 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: It's around asr-001588 01:27:07.780 --> 01:27:11.180 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: more than 2 cubic meters per second asr-001589 01:27:11.180 --> 01:27:13.080 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: po, ang regular allocation asr-001590 01:27:13.080 --> 01:27:14.740 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: nila ngayon coming from the Anggat Dam. asr-001591 01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:15.300 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Madam Chair. asr-001592 01:27:17.340 --> 01:27:19.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And sapat na po ba yun asr-001593 01:27:19.160 --> 01:27:20.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para dun sa asr-001594 01:27:20.160 --> 01:27:22.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: water districts at yung Bulacan Bulk Water? asr-001595 01:27:23.200 --> 01:27:24.760 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Sa ngayon po, if we look asr-001596 01:27:25.320 --> 01:27:26.540 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: at the demand po ng asr-001597 01:27:26.540 --> 01:27:28.260 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Bulacan Water Districts, asr-001598 01:27:28.320 --> 01:27:30.560 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: medyo kulang po yun. That's why asr-001599 01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:32.480 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: we are now, the asr-001600 01:27:32.480 --> 01:27:34.800 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Bulacan Bulk Company asr-001601 01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:36.940 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: yung po provide, is now asr-001602 01:27:36.940 --> 01:27:38.860 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: looking at developing additional water asr-001603 01:27:38.860 --> 01:27:40.720 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: source na outside asr-001604 01:27:40.720 --> 01:27:42.760 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: of the Anggat Dam, Madam Chair, kasi po asr-001605 01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:43.880 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: sa ngayon, medyo, asr-001606 01:27:44.760 --> 01:27:47.200 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: yung allocation asr-001607 01:27:47.200 --> 01:27:49.200 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: nang gagaling from the Anggat Dam. asr-001608 01:27:49.620 --> 01:27:51.020 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Then, we are now looking asr-001609 01:27:51.020 --> 01:27:52.920 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: the possibility of developing other asr-001610 01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:55.220 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: sources outside of Anggat Dam asr-001611 01:27:55.220 --> 01:27:57.020 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: but within Bulacan Bulk. asr-001612 01:27:57.880 --> 01:27:59.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then, dun pa rin sa asr-001613 01:27:59.200 --> 01:28:01.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ibang areas sa Central asr-001614 01:28:01.240 --> 01:28:02.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Luzon at Southern Tagalog, asr-001615 01:28:03.160 --> 01:28:05.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may mga similar arrangements na po ba asr-001616 01:28:05.100 --> 01:28:07.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tulad nito para naman sa mga asr-001617 01:28:07.100 --> 01:28:09.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: municipalities, mga water districts asr-001618 01:28:09.280 --> 01:28:11.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa palibot ng asr-001619 01:28:11.100 --> 01:28:13.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Manila Bay at yung host ng asr-001620 01:28:13.040 --> 01:28:14.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Wawa Bulk Water Dam. asr-001621 01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:16.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa Montalban at Antipolo asr-001622 01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:18.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Lalawigo naman ang Rizal. May similar na po asr-001623 01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:19.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: bang nabubuong ganon? asr-001624 01:28:20.820 --> 01:28:21.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Chief Regulator. asr-001625 01:28:22.020 --> 01:28:24.780 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Madam Chair, the Opera Wawa Dam has asr-001626 01:28:24.780 --> 01:28:26.760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: just been developed and it's just been delivered asr-001627 01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:28.840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: two, three years ago. asr-001628 01:28:29.220 --> 01:28:30.860 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So, the first water was actually asr-001629 01:28:30.860 --> 01:28:33.140 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: with Calawis asr-001630 01:28:33.140 --> 01:28:34.800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: producing 80 MLD asr-001631 01:28:34.800 --> 01:28:36.780 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: and another 220 asr-001632 01:28:36.780 --> 01:28:38.960 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: will be delivered by next month asr-001633 01:28:38.960 --> 01:28:40.640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: at Kaysakat in Rizal also. asr-001634 01:28:40.640 --> 01:28:42.600 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So, this will be providing water in the province asr-001635 01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:44.640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: of Rizal. There's also asr-001636 01:28:44.640 --> 01:28:46.840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: another expansion project soon in Pasig, asr-001637 01:28:47.360 --> 01:28:48.760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: the city of Pasig, to deliver asr-001638 01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:50.680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: another 200 MLD asr-001639 01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:52.320 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: to Metro Manila. asr-001640 01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:54.480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So, those are the initial plans right now. asr-001641 01:28:54.780 --> 01:28:56.820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: They have actually another 100 MLD, asr-001642 01:28:57.200 --> 01:28:58.420 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I think more than 100 MLD asr-001643 01:28:58.420 --> 01:29:00.100 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: available, but asr-001644 01:29:00.100 --> 01:29:02.240 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: so far, no other asr-001645 01:29:02.240 --> 01:29:04.420 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: off-taker has been asr-001646 01:29:04.420 --> 01:29:06.420 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: expressed interest in buying asr-001647 01:29:06.420 --> 01:29:07.380 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: this excess water. asr-001648 01:29:08.540 --> 01:29:10.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero nag-express na ng interest yung mga nasa asr-001649 01:29:10.440 --> 01:29:12.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: palibot ng Manila Bay, for one. asr-001650 01:29:12.400 --> 01:29:13.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Not in Metro Manila Bay. asr-001651 01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:14.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Manila Bay, asr-001652 01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:16.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Laguna Bay, sorry. asr-001653 01:29:17.040 --> 01:29:19.160 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: No. There's no one that's asr-001654 01:29:19.160 --> 01:29:20.220 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: expressed interest so far. asr-001655 01:29:22.080 --> 01:29:23.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Montalban, Antipolo? asr-001656 01:29:23.540 --> 01:29:24.480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: It's covered by asr-001657 01:29:24.480 --> 01:29:26.160 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Manila Water. asr-001658 01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:29.180 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The province of Rizal is covered by Manila Water. asr-001659 01:29:29.400 --> 01:29:31.340 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So, it's either being asr-001660 01:29:31.340 --> 01:29:33.160 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: serviced directly by Manila Water or via asr-001661 01:29:33.160 --> 01:29:35.120 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: bulk water service agreement with the asr-001662 01:29:35.120 --> 01:29:35.700 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Water District. asr-001663 01:29:37.660 --> 01:29:38.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Surprising lang na walang asr-001664 01:29:38.940 --> 01:29:40.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: uptakers pa. asr-001665 01:29:42.140 --> 01:29:42.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kailangan ba asr-001666 01:29:42.780 --> 01:29:44.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nagdagdag na impormasyon mula sa, asr-001667 01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:47.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa offices nyo para i-match yung asr-001668 01:29:47.200 --> 01:29:48.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: need at saka yung asr-001669 01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:50.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: available oversupply? asr-001670 01:29:51.020 --> 01:29:52.840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The issue is really the distance asr-001671 01:29:52.840 --> 01:29:54.480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: between the source and the location asr-001672 01:29:54.480 --> 01:29:56.120 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: because you need to bring the water asr-001673 01:29:56.120 --> 01:29:58.540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: to that location. So, it's actually asr-001674 01:29:58.540 --> 01:29:59.600 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: going to be very expensive. asr-001675 01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:05.820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: That's why the majority of the water is being distributed in Rizal because the water source is inside Rizal. asr-001676 01:30:06.360 --> 01:30:28.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero doon papasok yung ibang mga pamamaraan na tinalakay nyo kanina, iba't ibang resource persons, including yung mga tankers, para lang i-deliver, i-dugtong yung mga tubig mula sa kung saan may oversupply doon sa mga area na nangangailangan, kung walang malinaw na transfer mechanism. asr-001677 01:30:28.140 --> 01:30:44.220 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Tankers are only for emergency use because it's going to be very expensive to deliver water via tanker. We want, actually, our policy is it should be from the tap, to be delivered to your house via the water pipes, if not through tankers because it's going to be too expensive. asr-001678 01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:58.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But we'll be counting on the department and the attached agencies to work something out in this interim ng Super El Nino, at least, habang nilalatag nyo lahat ng infrastructure para from source to tap. asr-001679 01:30:58.140 --> 01:31:01.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, mga kadaloy, mga nakarating yung tubig sa mga bahay. asr-001680 01:31:01.880 --> 01:31:02.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. asr-001681 01:31:02.360 --> 01:31:04.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po. Yes, Administrator Salonga. asr-001682 01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:06.200 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chairman, Mr. Secretary. asr-001683 01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:14.380 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Yung isa kasing issues, that's why some water districts don't want to necessarily buy from the concessionaires in Metro Manila. asr-001684 01:31:14.540 --> 01:31:19.000 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Kasi meron pong nakadagdag na surcharge po yun. 25 or 30 percent? asr-001685 01:31:19.740 --> 01:31:20.660 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Environmental charge. asr-001686 01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:23.140 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Yeah. Environmental charge. asr-001687 01:31:23.140 --> 01:31:27.580 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Meron po kasing surcharge yun. I think 30 percent. asr-001688 01:31:28.020 --> 01:31:28.120 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So, I don't know. asr-001689 01:31:28.140 --> 01:31:30.900 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So, aside from the bulk water bill, meron kang surcharge. asr-001690 01:31:31.360 --> 01:31:38.460 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: The water districts, saka yung constituents nila may not be necessarily agreeable with that kind of bulk water rate. asr-001691 01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:42.180 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Saka hindi nila mapasa kagad sa rates nila kasi ang mahal kagad. asr-001692 01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:46.000 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So, that's one issue that I'm trying to resolve with the regulator team. asr-001693 01:31:47.240 --> 01:31:54.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ang mahal nga kung 30 percent. But if it's an environmental charge, nasa shop ng buong department, diba? At yung agencies ninyo. asr-001694 01:31:54.900 --> 01:31:57.480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Sorry. The environmental charge is basically the... asr-001695 01:31:57.480 --> 01:32:03.880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The charge for maintaining of the watersheds and the wastewater of Manila Water and Maynilad. asr-001696 01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:12.400 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So, that's why actually every residential customers of Manila Water and Maynilad are entitled to dislodging services once every five years. asr-001697 01:32:12.780 --> 01:32:16.760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: It's not free. It's actually part of your water bill and you are paying for it already. asr-001698 01:32:16.880 --> 01:32:20.880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: And that is covered by the environmental charge. It also covers for their watershed protection. asr-001699 01:32:22.380 --> 01:32:22.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Well, since... asr-001700 01:32:23.740 --> 01:32:26.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Of course, again, sabi ko kanina, importante yung strategic... asr-001701 01:32:27.480 --> 01:32:30.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: The trajectory ng department and mga attached agencies. asr-001702 01:32:30.680 --> 01:32:34.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But meron din po tayong isang urgent focus ngayon, the Super El Nino. asr-001703 01:32:34.700 --> 01:32:38.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, I'm sure the regulatory office has already thought about this. asr-001704 01:32:38.980 --> 01:32:47.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung ano yung pwedeng arrangements kahit dun sa mga concessionaires para ma-ease ng konti yung pressure sa mga customers nila. asr-001705 01:32:47.440 --> 01:32:49.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At least in the next months. asr-001706 01:32:49.740 --> 01:32:51.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po, Chief Regulator. asr-001707 01:32:54.240 --> 01:32:56.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Some additional questions sa NWR. asr-001708 01:32:57.480 --> 01:33:16.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Dr. David, paano po ima-manage ng NWRB yung nakaambang pressure tungkol sa pagtaas ng presyo, ng singil or rates ngayong posibleng kumonte yung water supply kumpara sa demand? asr-001709 01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:20.800 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. asr-001710 01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:22.060 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: With the permission of the Secretary. asr-001711 01:33:22.720 --> 01:33:26.120 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yun naman pong NWRB is niregulate po yung rates. asr-001712 01:33:26.400 --> 01:33:27.360 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: But di po natin... asr-001713 01:33:27.480 --> 01:33:31.000 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Pwedeng direct ang ikonekta ngayon sa nakaambang El Nino. asr-001714 01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:41.340 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: But ang focus po ng NWRB ngayon is how to provide, yung anticipate saan po yung magkakaroon ng issue on deficit or possible supply issue. asr-001715 01:33:41.340 --> 01:33:50.240 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: But focus on how water can be made available to these areas without directly connecting it sa ngayon po, dun sa rates po. asr-001716 01:33:53.520 --> 01:33:54.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Siguro nga po. asr-001717 01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:57.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero syempre, nasa isip yun ng mga... asr-001718 01:33:57.480 --> 01:34:00.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: constituents nyo at mga consumers ng tubig. asr-001719 01:34:01.040 --> 01:34:05.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano magsusurvive na kulang nga yung tubig pero tataas pa yung rate. asr-001720 01:34:06.080 --> 01:34:13.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Parang it's kontra sa dapat na relief na hinahanap nila. asr-001721 01:34:13.900 --> 01:34:17.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung by ordinary operation of the market, syempre mas konting supply, mas mahal. asr-001722 01:34:18.040 --> 01:34:20.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But double whammy yun sa mga consumers. asr-001723 01:34:20.880 --> 01:34:23.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kaya please keep that question in mind. asr-001724 01:34:23.240 --> 01:34:25.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I-follow up ko sa board ninyo. asr-001725 01:34:25.740 --> 01:34:28.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I'm sure may colleagues sa plenary. asr-001726 01:34:29.140 --> 01:34:41.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And ano po yung ginagawa ng NRWB sa ngayon, NWRB, sa susunod na taon, 2027, para itulak yung pagkakaroon ng bagong water sources? asr-001727 01:34:41.320 --> 01:34:47.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung mayroon po kayong gustong idagdag sa napag-usapan na at dagdagan din yung utilization ng existing water sources. asr-001728 01:34:48.900 --> 01:34:50.560 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yes, thank you Madam Chair. asr-001729 01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:55.560 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Sa ngayon po Madam Chair, we are working with WRMOO on the various... asr-001730 01:34:55.740 --> 01:35:04.740 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: feasibility studies that were prepared through WRMOO, particularly yung mga development po ng mga new sources. asr-001731 01:35:05.280 --> 01:35:13.640 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: And likewise, may mga projects po ang NWRB, yung mga water resource assessment ng mga major river basins, asr-001732 01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:21.360 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: and part of that assessment, yung identification po ng mga possible sources na pwede pong matap, asr-001733 01:35:21.940 --> 01:35:24.800 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: particularly development ng mga impounding system. asr-001734 01:35:24.980 --> 01:35:25.640 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Kasi napaka-importante. asr-001735 01:35:25.740 --> 01:35:30.620 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Napaka-importante po sa ngayon, Madam Chair, na maging climate resilient yung mga river basins, asr-001736 01:35:31.060 --> 01:35:39.400 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: and part of the strategy is the development ng mga impounding system that can be a bit more multipurpose po ang beneficial effect po. asr-001737 01:35:42.260 --> 01:35:55.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And nabanggit din nga po kanina yung rainwater catchment facilities, lalo na sa mga LGUs na maraming taon nang mandated to construct and operate those facilities. asr-001738 01:35:55.740 --> 01:35:56.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mandated by law. asr-001739 01:35:58.820 --> 01:36:13.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Speaking of the WMRO, WMRO is executing a 100 million peso direct grant facility targeting unserved and island water systems via the local water districts. asr-001740 01:36:14.500 --> 01:36:23.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Saan-saan po yan gagawin? At anong mga specific activities at items po ba ang pupondohan ng grant facility na iyon, Administrator Salongka? asr-001741 01:36:23.900 --> 01:36:24.980 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair. asr-001742 01:36:25.740 --> 01:36:37.240 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: In partnership with the WRMO, we are identifying these water districts na viable or at least qualified to enter into this, to receive these grants. asr-001743 01:36:37.700 --> 01:36:48.420 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Tinitinan po kasi namin, minsan magbibigay ka doon, wala namang community tatanggap at mag-maintain, lalo na magbumukhang desalination facility po yan, magkakaproblema po tayo. asr-001744 01:36:48.420 --> 01:36:54.420 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So baka masayang. So gagawa kami ng criteria, which water districts ang pupwedeng tumanggap. asr-001745 01:36:55.740 --> 01:37:03.400 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: To maintain and operate these systems. Kasi parang masasayang lang natin kung maglalagay lang tayo ng facility doon at hindi mapapatakbong mabuti. asr-001746 01:37:05.480 --> 01:37:09.520 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Tinatapos na namin po ni Yusek Rodriguez yung qualifications po niyan. asr-001747 01:37:10.320 --> 01:37:14.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So nasa qualification setting pa lang kayo, hindi nyo pa na-identify yung mga locality? asr-001748 01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:22.500 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: For, may previous na po, for 2027, lalagyan namin ng qualifications para siguradong magagamit yung mga facilities. asr-001749 01:37:22.500 --> 01:37:25.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So i-update nyo lamang po for next year? asr-001750 01:37:25.740 --> 01:37:26.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Madam Chair. asr-001751 01:37:26.540 --> 01:37:37.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa ngayon, ilang mga lugar ang kinalalagyan itong mga island water systems sa local water district? asr-001752 01:37:37.520 --> 01:37:44.880 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, previously hindi kami privy. Ngayon lang kami magko-coordinate regarding yung matters ng qualifications. asr-001753 01:37:45.420 --> 01:37:48.800 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: But we will get back to you doon sa nalagyan ng WRMO. asr-001754 01:37:49.340 --> 01:37:53.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Please do. Sino ba dati ang privy sa data na yun? Kung hindi kayo? asr-001755 01:37:53.600 --> 01:37:55.680 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Si Yusek David. asr-001756 01:37:55.740 --> 01:38:14.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Si Yusek David, the former Yusek. Okay. And then, habang ina-update nyo yung listahan ng saan-saan gagawin ito, may specific activities at items na ba na tukoy nyo na isasama sa grant facility na ito for next year? asr-001757 01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:22.040 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, since ang targeted niya is island, that could be deep well construction or desalination facilities. asr-001758 01:38:23.440 --> 01:38:23.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. asr-001759 01:38:25.740 --> 01:38:27.700 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Depende po sa location. asr-001760 01:38:30.980 --> 01:38:31.540 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Sige. asr-001761 01:38:31.780 --> 01:38:33.580 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, may may. Madam Chair. asr-001762 01:38:33.800 --> 01:38:35.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Yusek. I mean, Sekuna. asr-001763 01:38:35.780 --> 01:38:46.820 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yeah. The existing structures, I went to a few as I mentioned earlier, in relation to what Administrator Joyce Salonga said. asr-001764 01:38:46.820 --> 01:38:53.080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So, they're either the barangay or a people's organization, an association in the area. asr-001765 01:38:53.440 --> 01:38:54.280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Randy, you know. asr-001766 01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:55.700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And charge a minimum. asr-001767 01:38:55.740 --> 01:39:04.460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: A minimal fee just for the maintenance of the area, of the structure, and for the repairs if necessary. asr-001768 01:39:05.300 --> 01:39:10.600 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, in relation to the map you were mentioning earlier, we are ready to present now. asr-001769 01:39:10.940 --> 01:39:11.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes. asr-001770 01:39:11.400 --> 01:39:17.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Great. Tamang-tama. Before going on to other concerns with these agencies, please, let's backtrack to that. asr-001771 01:39:17.240 --> 01:39:25.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung map overlay na ginawa nyo para identify yung three levels of vulnerability and projected asr-001772 01:39:25.740 --> 01:39:29.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: impact by the Super El Ni?o, asr-001773 01:39:29.220 --> 01:39:30.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: please proceed Yusek, Analisa. asr-001774 01:39:31.040 --> 01:39:35.800 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Madam Chair, ma'am, may I introduce Ms. Villa Estolero to present the map? asr-001775 01:39:37.720 --> 01:39:43.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Parang presiding officer namin on your mind. Parang I read Estolero. Estolero ba? Escudero? asr-001776 01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:45.620 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Estolero po, Madam Chair. asr-001777 01:39:45.780 --> 01:39:48.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. So, please proceed, Ms. Villa. asr-001778 01:39:49.100 --> 01:39:49.900 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Ay, ma'am. asr-001779 01:39:55.740 --> 01:40:25.720 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Thank you. asr-001780 01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:38.140 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: While the map is waiting to be flashed, I will explain the methodology of how the most vulnerable barangays were assessed based on available spatial data. asr-001781 01:40:38.140 --> 01:40:54.560 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: So first of all, we have three available data when we weighted criteria po ng mga most vulnerable sa drought. asr-001782 01:40:54.560 --> 01:41:08.740 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: We have the DOST Pag-asa Drought Projections by December 2026 and the Groundwater Stressed Areas from NWRB based on their latest available data of 2025. asr-001783 01:41:09.600 --> 01:41:22.460 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: And the Water Service Provider Data based on NWRB Listahang Tubig 2025, DILG Subay Bayan, and available WRMO data. asr-001784 01:41:22.460 --> 01:41:25.760 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: So these three factors were weighted. asr-001785 01:41:26.500 --> 01:41:32.880 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: So for groundwater stress, there's a score of 1 for groundwater stress and 0 for non-groundwater. asr-001786 01:41:33.300 --> 01:41:43.400 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Water service coverage, 1 if there are no water service providers in the area and 0 if it is covered by a water service provider. asr-001787 01:41:43.400 --> 01:41:49.180 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: And the Pag-asa Drought Outlook based on the classification of DOST Pag-asa. asr-001788 01:41:49.500 --> 01:41:52.040 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Drought for 3, dry spell for 2. asr-001789 01:41:52.460 --> 01:41:54.720 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Dry condition 1, then not affected 0. asr-001790 01:41:55.400 --> 01:41:58.340 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Then the scores were summed to determine the priority category. asr-001791 01:41:58.340 --> 01:42:01.760 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: So high priority with a total score of greater than 3. asr-001792 01:42:02.360 --> 01:42:05.760 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Moderate priority with a total score of equal to 2. asr-001793 01:42:06.160 --> 01:42:08.340 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Low priority with a total score of equal to 1. asr-001794 01:42:08.620 --> 01:42:10.600 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: And not affected with a total score of 0. asr-001795 01:42:11.260 --> 01:42:16.980 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: So based on the spatial assessment and GIS analysis of the Geospatial Database Office, asr-001796 01:42:17.620 --> 01:42:21.720 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: we have come up that there are 14,434 barangays. asr-001797 01:42:22.460 --> 01:42:26.500 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Or 34% of the barangays nationwide, which are deemed high priority. asr-001798 01:42:27.040 --> 01:42:32.980 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: But do note that this assessment is indicative only and based on available spatial data. asr-001799 01:42:33.540 --> 01:42:34.560 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: And that's how we come up. asr-001800 01:42:34.780 --> 01:42:39.460 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: And for moderate priority, 17,046 barangays, 41%. asr-001801 01:42:40.300 --> 01:42:43.460 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Low priority, 9,685, 23%. asr-001802 01:42:44.020 --> 01:42:48.460 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: And not affected, or 883 barangays, or 2%. asr-001803 01:42:48.460 --> 01:42:50.460 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: But there is a specific... asr-001804 01:42:52.460 --> 01:42:58.800 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Disclaimer that this is based on the drought data of Pag-Asa forecast for December 2026. asr-001805 01:43:00.340 --> 01:43:02.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you so much, Ms. Via. asr-001806 01:43:02.940 --> 01:43:08.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So itong pag-identify niyo unang-una ng 14,000 high priority barangays, asr-001807 01:43:08.740 --> 01:43:11.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or 34% ng mga barangays sa ating bansa. asr-001808 01:43:12.140 --> 01:43:16.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So naka-align na po ba sa mga ito, asr-001809 01:43:16.040 --> 01:43:22.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung mga Super El Nino preparation and response programs, asr-001810 01:43:22.460 --> 01:43:26.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: activities and projects ng department in the budget so far? asr-001811 01:43:30.340 --> 01:43:34.540 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: For Madam Chair, for that information, we would have to confirm. asr-001812 01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:41.220 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: But for the available data, we have several projects for WRMO, asr-001813 01:43:41.220 --> 01:43:51.740 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: which was overlaid to determine which of these projects directly intersect these most affected areas. asr-001814 01:43:52.460 --> 01:43:54.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And which projects are these? asr-001815 01:43:54.620 --> 01:44:00.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tapos sapat na po ba yung naka-appropriate na amounts para sa mga projects na ito? asr-001816 01:44:01.420 --> 01:44:03.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Or should I ask WRMO? asr-001817 01:44:06.440 --> 01:44:07.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you, Ms. Via. asr-001818 01:44:08.060 --> 01:44:09.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Usec Rodriguez. asr-001819 01:44:09.860 --> 01:44:10.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes. asr-001820 01:44:11.140 --> 01:44:12.980 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Yes, good afternoon, Madam Chair. asr-001821 01:44:13.300 --> 01:44:14.720 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Good afternoon, Senator Cayetano. asr-001822 01:44:16.020 --> 01:44:21.080 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Ma'am, if I may backtrack as to the types of projects and how this actually evolved. asr-001823 01:44:21.080 --> 01:44:52.440 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Ma'am, the projects that were chosen were as early as 2024. And so this is not really geared towards the El Niño. It just so happens there's El Niño now. But that being said, I think whatever projects that are implemented will still apply to future El Niños because the cycle is from two to seven years, though we cannot really predict when they are. So even if certain projects are not implemented, let's say by December this year in order asr-001849 01:44:52.460 --> 01:44:58.980 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: To address the brunt of the El Nino, which is from January to March and probably even extend. asr-001850 01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:02.560 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: that for the future El Ninos, we have it there. asr-001851 01:45:03.660 --> 01:45:12.260 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, ma'am, the types of projects that we have would be first in coordination and collaboration with the LUA asr-001852 01:45:12.260 --> 01:45:16.120 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: is the service coverage expansion of water services. asr-001853 01:45:16.940 --> 01:45:22.140 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Basically po, ito po yung mga water district na yung kanilang, asr-001854 01:45:22.140 --> 01:45:33.600 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: because there's a limit as to where their pipes are, to where they distribute their water or source capacity. asr-001855 01:45:34.160 --> 01:45:37.600 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, what we do is we actually grant financial assistance. asr-001856 01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:49.520 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: For 2027, the total amount allocated would be 124,092,000. asr-001857 01:45:50.700 --> 01:45:51.940 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Other than this, asr-001858 01:45:52.140 --> 01:45:55.560 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: we have the development and implementation of water-related projects. asr-001859 01:45:57.300 --> 01:46:00.440 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Ma'am, if I may, Madam Chair, just to explain, asr-001860 01:46:00.860 --> 01:46:06.720 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: actually, when it comes to water systems, it's not just water districts. asr-001861 01:46:07.200 --> 01:46:13.520 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Actually, equally the same number are water systems operated by LGUs. asr-001862 01:46:13.980 --> 01:46:16.800 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, they're both around 500, if I'm not mistaken. asr-001863 01:46:17.200 --> 01:46:21.960 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, the beneficiaries of the projects of the WRMO are both asr-001864 01:46:22.140 --> 01:46:23.720 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: water districts and LGUs. asr-001865 01:46:24.260 --> 01:46:29.100 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, when it comes to LGUs, the beneficiaries, asr-001866 01:46:30.460 --> 01:46:34.400 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: initial identified beneficiaries are yung mga remote island barangays asr-001867 01:46:34.900 --> 01:46:37.900 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: and those other barangays which are considered as isolated. asr-001868 01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:44.820 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Insofar as water districts are concerned, part of the criteria really is yung water districts po na asr-001869 01:46:45.220 --> 01:46:46.360 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: plus four, three and four, asr-001870 01:46:46.460 --> 01:46:46.760 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: oh, asr-001878 01:46:48.240 --> 01:46:49.200 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: class C and D. asr-001879 01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:51.820 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, the types of asr-001880 01:46:51.820 --> 01:46:54.020 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: projects, asr-001881 01:46:54.160 --> 01:46:55.700 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: I think it was mentioned already by the Secretary, asr-001882 01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:57.580 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: our water filtration program, asr-001883 01:46:58.040 --> 01:47:00.620 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: which includes desalination or fresh water. asr-001884 01:47:01.120 --> 01:47:02.420 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: We have water refilling stations, asr-001885 01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:04.920 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: water tanks for water districts and LGUs, asr-001886 01:47:05.380 --> 01:47:07.620 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: and yung geo-resistivity survey. asr-001887 01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:15.300 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, the total number of water-related projects that we're looking at the target for 2027 asr-001888 01:47:15.300 --> 01:47:16.980 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: would be 180. asr-001889 01:47:21.820 --> 01:47:34.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Itong 180 projects, addressing both water districts and LGUs, tama po ba? asr-001890 01:47:35.320 --> 01:47:37.980 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: That's correct, Madam Chair, but mostly water districts. asr-001891 01:47:38.120 --> 01:47:39.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mostly water districts. asr-001892 01:47:39.240 --> 01:47:44.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then itong mostly water districts na i-implementahan nyo ng projects, asr-001893 01:47:45.120 --> 01:47:50.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasama na sila at pati yung LGU-run water systems, asr-001894 01:47:50.380 --> 01:47:51.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasama na sila dun sa 14. asr-001895 01:47:51.820 --> 01:47:55.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: thousand barangays na sinabi ni Ms. Villa na high priority, asr-001896 01:47:56.160 --> 01:47:58.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 34% of our barangays in the country. asr-001897 01:48:03.280 --> 01:48:09.720 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Ma'am, what actually we're looking at since the final list of the 2027 beneficiaries asr-001898 01:48:09.720 --> 01:48:12.600 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: have not yet been identified, we will include this. asr-001899 01:48:12.740 --> 01:48:18.460 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Ma'am, because I think this is also an important map in the sense that asr-001900 01:48:18.460 --> 01:48:21.460 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: for every El Nino cycle, sila rin po lagi ang tinatamaan. asr-001901 01:48:21.820 --> 01:48:27.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, it's a very important map kasi dun sa sinabi niya, asr-001902 01:48:27.220 --> 01:48:32.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: baka itong mga Masbate City, Calapan City, Isabela Cluster, Cagayan Valley, asr-001903 01:48:32.520 --> 01:48:38.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: baka chronically naapektuhan ng El Nino, not just this Super El Nino. asr-001904 01:48:39.540 --> 01:48:40.760 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Tamag po yun, Madam Chair. asr-001905 01:48:40.840 --> 01:48:47.520 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: In fact, we've actually seen modelings that they've done of previous El Nino years asr-001906 01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:49.200 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: na kung saan po nagkaroon ng drought, asr-001907 01:48:49.200 --> 01:48:51.800 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: na it always comes back to all the same. asr-001908 01:48:51.820 --> 01:48:58.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And yung follow-up question, sa unang-unang question kanina, asr-001909 01:48:58.780 --> 01:49:03.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: so, aling mga programa ang kailangan dagdaga ng pondo sa ngayon asr-001910 01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:08.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: in order to address, either to support the 180 projects asr-001911 01:49:08.120 --> 01:49:17.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or to address the LGUs and or, sorry, the water districts and or LGU-run water projects asr-001912 01:49:17.440 --> 01:49:21.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dito sa 34% of barangays, 14,000 barangays. asr-001913 01:49:21.820 --> 01:49:23.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, that is a high priority. asr-001914 01:49:24.740 --> 01:49:26.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Administrator Salonga. asr-001915 01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:30.360 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, sa experience namin sa LUA, asr-001916 01:49:30.820 --> 01:49:34.760 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: ang mga dapat nagdaga ng pondo, yung water source development, asr-001917 01:49:35.580 --> 01:49:40.120 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: NRW recovery, saka yung network expansion po. asr-001918 01:49:40.420 --> 01:49:43.420 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Yung network expansion po kasi, hagip yan pareho. asr-001919 01:49:43.780 --> 01:49:46.420 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: You can add more water sources or new piping. asr-001920 01:49:47.060 --> 01:49:49.540 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Kaya, ganun po yung nakikita. asr-001921 01:49:49.540 --> 01:49:51.780 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: And it's the same request that we get from, asr-001922 01:49:51.820 --> 01:49:53.140 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: from water districts. asr-001923 01:49:53.460 --> 01:49:57.160 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Ang worry lang namin sa LUA, kasi nga, kami nagpapautang kami. asr-001924 01:49:57.760 --> 01:50:02.700 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: With El Nino, hindi naman lahat ng water districts e-qualified umutang sa amin asr-001925 01:50:02.700 --> 01:50:04.160 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: or mapapautang po namin. asr-001926 01:50:04.400 --> 01:50:08.620 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So, ang hinihingi ng water districts is a direct investment of government. asr-001927 01:50:08.840 --> 01:50:09.940 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So, grants po yun. asr-001928 01:50:10.360 --> 01:50:16.200 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So, ang pakiusap namin, kung madadagdagan in whatever means possible sa budget, asr-001929 01:50:16.620 --> 01:50:18.100 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: mabigyan ng subsidy po yun. asr-001930 01:50:18.100 --> 01:50:20.900 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: And kami naman po, ma-identify naman namin, asr-001931 01:50:21.020 --> 01:50:21.780 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: kasi nasa amin yung, asr-001932 01:50:21.820 --> 01:50:22.700 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: lahat ng hiling nila. asr-001933 01:50:23.220 --> 01:50:26.840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: And we can give it to the Senate for scrutiny, kung tama. asr-001934 01:50:27.780 --> 01:50:30.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Oo. So, I guess, dun sa paggamit yun ng salitang, asr-001935 01:50:30.900 --> 01:50:31.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kung pwedeng dagdagan, asr-001936 01:50:32.300 --> 01:50:34.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: this means, itong tatlong item na in-identify nyo, asr-001937 01:50:34.760 --> 01:50:38.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: water source development, NRW, saka network expansion, asr-001938 01:50:39.100 --> 01:50:40.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa current form ng budget, asr-001939 01:50:41.080 --> 01:50:42.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kulang pa yung items nila. asr-001940 01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:46.500 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, sa budget po ng LUA, asr-001941 01:50:47.460 --> 01:50:51.280 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: 29.5 million pesos lang po yung binigay sa amin. asr-001942 01:50:51.820 --> 01:50:53.780 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Isang water district lang po yun. asr-001943 01:50:54.700 --> 01:50:57.240 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Mauubos rin yung pera namin sa pagpapautang. asr-001944 01:50:57.380 --> 01:51:00.180 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Hindi pa namin kayang punuan lahat ng hingi nila. asr-001945 01:51:00.540 --> 01:51:01.620 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Especially for El Nino. asr-001946 01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:05.440 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: That's why we're trying to talk to the DPWH. asr-001947 01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:09.920 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Baka yung hindi pa nagagamit, e malagay para magamit naman ngayon. asr-001948 01:51:10.400 --> 01:51:12.080 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Kasi yung budget is for next year. asr-001949 01:51:14.200 --> 01:51:16.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yun na nga, may napag-usapan din tayo kanina, no? asr-001950 01:51:16.860 --> 01:51:19.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Item na sa shop ng DPWH. asr-001951 01:51:20.180 --> 01:51:21.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero, ah, ayun. asr-001952 01:51:21.820 --> 01:51:24.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tungkol sa level 1 water supply systems. asr-001953 01:51:25.740 --> 01:51:31.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But that's more a point of coordination rather than ilipat in some way kung ma... asr-001954 01:51:32.980 --> 01:51:34.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Anong tawag nito? asr-001955 01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:36.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mapahawak nila sa inyo. asr-001956 01:51:36.580 --> 01:51:38.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But that's a different matter pala. asr-001957 01:51:38.740 --> 01:51:44.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So you please submit that as part of the department's wish list, asr-001958 01:51:44.300 --> 01:51:49.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: itong tatlo, through the secretary bago yung plenary namin. asr-001959 01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:50.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Unless you're... asr-001960 01:51:50.620 --> 01:51:51.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Nakwenta nyo na. asr-001961 01:51:51.820 --> 01:51:54.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: How much more kailangan itong tatlong items na ito? asr-001962 01:51:54.600 --> 01:51:56.220 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, tinanggal na po namin. asr-001963 01:51:56.380 --> 01:51:58.580 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: It's roughly around 2 billion po. asr-001964 01:51:59.540 --> 01:52:01.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: For the 3 items to be? asr-001965 01:52:04.820 --> 01:52:07.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, submit pa rin po in writing sa aming subcommittee. asr-001966 01:52:07.960 --> 01:52:09.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I-break down into the 3. asr-001967 01:52:10.160 --> 01:52:12.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ano yung mga items niyon which would total 2 billion. asr-001968 01:52:12.660 --> 01:52:13.020 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Yes, ma'am. asr-001969 01:52:13.040 --> 01:52:14.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung kakayanin ng Senate. asr-001970 01:52:14.260 --> 01:52:15.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, salamat po. asr-001971 01:52:15.440 --> 01:52:16.160 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Madam Chair. asr-001972 01:52:16.820 --> 01:52:17.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, yes. asr-001973 01:52:17.300 --> 01:52:17.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Senator Pia. asr-001974 01:52:17.820 --> 01:52:20.700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Madam Chair, for purpose of time management, asr-001975 01:52:20.900 --> 01:52:21.820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: may we know when... asr-001976 01:52:21.820 --> 01:52:24.360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And her honor will acknowledge the other senators asr-001977 01:52:24.360 --> 01:52:26.020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: for purpose of asking questions asr-001978 01:52:26.020 --> 01:52:27.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: para we can manage din our time. asr-001979 01:52:27.980 --> 01:52:28.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Oh, sorry. asr-001980 01:52:28.800 --> 01:52:30.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Actually, this is quite freewheeling. asr-001981 01:52:30.860 --> 01:52:34.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So I was just going through yung follow-up questions to raise asr-001982 01:52:34.760 --> 01:52:35.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: after the briefing. asr-001983 01:52:35.640 --> 01:52:38.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But you may begin your questioning now. asr-001984 01:52:38.240 --> 01:52:40.920 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: For her honor to tell us what her rules are asr-001985 01:52:40.920 --> 01:52:43.720 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: if we have 10 minutes or any time. asr-001986 01:52:43.980 --> 01:52:45.760 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Kaya hindi ko kami nag-i-interrupt. asr-001987 01:52:45.840 --> 01:52:46.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, alright. asr-001988 01:52:46.900 --> 01:52:47.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: You may proceed po. asr-001989 01:52:47.860 --> 01:52:48.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I can continue later. asr-001990 01:52:48.940 --> 01:52:49.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you. asr-001991 01:52:49.420 --> 01:52:51.180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Well, Senator Alan was here earlier, asr-001992 01:52:51.180 --> 01:52:51.980 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: which is rare. asr-001993 01:52:52.520 --> 01:52:55.740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So I will not take advantage of my being a lady. asr-001994 01:52:55.840 --> 01:52:58.280 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you so much, Chairperson, for that. asr-001995 01:52:58.940 --> 01:52:59.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you, Madam Chair. asr-001996 01:53:00.040 --> 01:53:02.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I do appreciate your questions. asr-001997 01:53:04.220 --> 01:53:07.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Siguro, SEC and DNR family, asr-001998 01:53:08.120 --> 01:53:11.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we can really argue on facts. asr-001999 01:53:12.180 --> 01:53:17.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dapat hindi, but mas mabilis na ngayon yung research data. asr-002000 01:53:17.720 --> 01:53:19.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So what can be true today asr-002001 01:53:19.040 --> 01:53:21.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: might not be exactly true. asr-002002 01:53:21.180 --> 01:53:22.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What can be true tomorrow? asr-002003 01:53:22.640 --> 01:53:25.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Opinions, definitely, magdidebate tayo. asr-002004 01:53:25.940 --> 01:53:28.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Preference, priorities, magdidebate tayo. asr-002005 01:53:29.360 --> 01:53:31.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero siguro, principles, hindi tayo magdidebate. asr-002006 01:53:32.420 --> 01:53:34.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: For example, we talked about education kanina. asr-002007 01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:38.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung anong itatanim natin, yan ang aanihin natin. asr-002008 01:53:38.800 --> 01:53:40.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So that's a principle we won't disagree. asr-002009 01:53:41.440 --> 01:53:44.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So the elephant in the room in all the hearings asr-002010 01:53:44.120 --> 01:53:45.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is really flood control. asr-002011 01:53:46.220 --> 01:53:49.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And although I'm not going to talk about the investigation, asr-002012 01:53:49.300 --> 01:53:50.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I want to talk about the... asr-002013 01:53:51.180 --> 01:53:54.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the role of the DNR in solving this asr-002014 01:53:54.920 --> 01:53:57.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and preventing it from ever happening. asr-002015 01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:00.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The first is massive urbanization. asr-002016 01:54:01.140 --> 01:54:03.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If you look from the 1960s to now, asr-002017 01:54:03.380 --> 01:54:04.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so more or less 60 years, asr-002018 01:54:06.020 --> 01:54:07.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: umiba talaga yung ano eh, asr-002019 01:54:07.260 --> 01:54:09.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung dami ng tao sa rural, asr-002020 01:54:09.880 --> 01:54:12.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa urban. asr-002021 01:54:13.400 --> 01:54:14.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And ang problema, yung urban, asr-002022 01:54:15.120 --> 01:54:16.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang lilit ng lugak. asr-002023 01:54:16.560 --> 01:54:17.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya if you look at the map, asr-002024 01:54:17.600 --> 01:54:18.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung Metro Manila, asr-002025 01:54:19.100 --> 01:54:20.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with 20 million people, asr-002026 01:54:21.180 --> 01:54:25.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but if you add Central Luzon and Southern Luzon, asr-002027 01:54:26.220 --> 01:54:27.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: suddenly you might have, what, asr-002028 01:54:27.800 --> 01:54:29.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 30-40% of the... asr-002029 01:54:30.400 --> 01:54:34.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the population ng Philippines in that area. asr-002030 01:54:35.520 --> 01:54:38.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But iba pa rin talaga yung density ng Metro Manila. asr-002031 01:54:38.940 --> 01:54:40.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So lahat na ng problema, asr-002032 01:54:41.520 --> 01:54:42.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasama na DNR, asr-002033 01:54:43.240 --> 01:54:44.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: problema na pro-problemahin nyo, asr-002034 01:54:44.920 --> 01:54:46.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nandun pagka masyadong dense, di ba? asr-002035 01:54:47.340 --> 01:54:48.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Basura, human waste, asr-002036 01:54:48.880 --> 01:54:50.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: all kinds of waste, asr-002037 01:54:51.180 --> 01:54:52.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pollution, traffic. asr-002038 01:54:52.680 --> 01:54:54.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So the traffic also causes asr-002039 01:54:54.140 --> 01:54:58.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the air pollution and everything, no? asr-002040 01:54:59.160 --> 01:55:01.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Water, which the good chairperson asr-002041 01:55:01.620 --> 01:55:02.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have been discussing. asr-002042 01:55:03.360 --> 01:55:05.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So the problem is, asr-002043 01:55:06.280 --> 01:55:08.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Europe, pag sinabi mong rural, asr-002044 01:55:09.200 --> 01:55:11.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may tubig, may kuryente, may internet, asr-002045 01:55:11.940 --> 01:55:13.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may ospital, may eskwelahan. asr-002046 01:55:14.240 --> 01:55:15.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa atin, pag sinabi mong rural, asr-002047 01:55:15.660 --> 01:55:16.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: green siya, asr-002048 01:55:16.860 --> 01:55:17.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero asr-002049 01:55:17.180 --> 01:55:19.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala asr-002064 01:55:21.180 --> 01:55:21.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you do not have asr-002065 01:55:21.820 --> 01:55:22.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what you have asr-002066 01:55:22.160 --> 01:55:22.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in the urban asr-002067 01:55:22.720 --> 01:55:24.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: areas, di ba? asr-002068 01:55:24.200 --> 01:55:24.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Or if you asr-002069 01:55:24.660 --> 01:55:25.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you do have asr-002070 01:55:25.120 --> 01:55:25.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nice schools asr-002071 01:55:25.760 --> 01:55:26.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and actually asr-002072 01:55:26.900 --> 01:55:27.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whole day pa sila, asr-002073 01:55:28.080 --> 01:55:28.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero they don't have asr-002074 01:55:28.900 --> 01:55:30.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the computers asr-002075 01:55:30.220 --> 01:55:31.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or the asr-002076 01:55:31.800 --> 01:55:33.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: specializations asr-002077 01:55:33.540 --> 01:55:34.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you have in asr-002078 01:55:34.420 --> 01:55:35.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: highly urbanized, no? asr-002079 01:55:36.580 --> 01:55:36.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, asr-002080 01:55:38.260 --> 01:55:40.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: going to the second part, no? asr-002081 01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:41.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang nakita natin problema asr-002082 01:55:41.920 --> 01:55:42.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa asr-002083 01:55:42.400 --> 01:55:44.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: flood control dalawa. asr-002084 01:55:44.840 --> 01:55:45.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung actual design, asr-002085 01:55:45.900 --> 01:55:46.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung engineering asr-002086 01:55:46.420 --> 01:55:47.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: intervention. asr-002087 01:55:48.080 --> 01:55:48.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, baka asr-002088 01:55:48.700 --> 01:55:49.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: expertise ng asr-002089 01:55:49.820 --> 01:55:51.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH yung asr-002090 01:55:51.140 --> 01:55:51.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: engineering, asr-002091 01:55:52.620 --> 01:55:53.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but hindi yung asr-002092 01:55:53.820 --> 01:55:56.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how do I put it? asr-002093 01:55:56.580 --> 01:55:57.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The environmental asr-002094 01:55:57.200 --> 01:55:57.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: design. asr-002095 01:55:59.140 --> 01:55:59.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? asr-002096 01:55:59.640 --> 01:56:00.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meaning, for example, asr-002097 01:56:00.520 --> 01:56:01.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if expert sila gumawa asr-002098 01:56:01.520 --> 01:56:02.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng bridge asr-002099 01:56:02.060 --> 01:56:03.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or expert sila gumawa asr-002100 01:56:03.160 --> 01:56:04.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng dike asr-002101 01:56:04.440 --> 01:56:05.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at asr-002102 01:56:05.100 --> 01:56:06.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: expert sila gumawa asr-002103 01:56:06.440 --> 01:56:06.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng road, asr-002104 01:56:07.360 --> 01:56:08.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that doesn't mean asr-002105 01:56:08.240 --> 01:56:09.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they're an expert asr-002106 01:56:09.040 --> 01:56:09.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in how to treat asr-002107 01:56:09.820 --> 01:56:10.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this lake, asr-002108 01:56:10.580 --> 01:56:11.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this river, asr-002109 01:56:11.240 --> 01:56:12.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this tributary, asr-002110 01:56:12.460 --> 01:56:12.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: di ba? asr-002111 01:56:13.300 --> 01:56:14.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, yung role asr-002112 01:56:14.140 --> 01:56:14.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: din ninyo, asr-002113 01:56:15.720 --> 01:56:17.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: maybe a simple asr-002114 01:56:17.920 --> 01:56:18.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: checklist asr-002115 01:56:18.500 --> 01:56:20.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and asr-002116 01:56:20.540 --> 01:56:22.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: , how do I put it? asr-002117 01:56:23.280 --> 01:56:23.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: We don't want asr-002118 01:56:23.960 --> 01:56:24.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: red tape, asr-002119 01:56:25.560 --> 01:56:27.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but on the other hand, asr-002120 01:56:27.120 --> 01:56:28.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we want the input asr-002121 01:56:28.120 --> 01:56:28.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng DNR asr-002122 01:56:28.980 --> 01:56:30.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung anong pwedeng asr-002123 01:56:30.340 --> 01:56:31.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gawin sa tributary asr-002124 01:56:31.500 --> 01:56:32.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or sa lake asr-002125 01:56:32.360 --> 01:56:34.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or river na yun asr-002126 01:56:34.020 --> 01:56:35.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: para nga hindi asr-002127 01:56:35.100 --> 01:56:35.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mali yung asr-002128 01:56:35.940 --> 01:56:37.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: intervention. asr-002129 01:56:37.640 --> 01:56:38.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I'm assuming asr-002130 01:56:38.980 --> 01:56:40.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi dadayain asr-002131 01:56:40.100 --> 01:56:40.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung project, no? asr-002132 01:56:41.260 --> 01:56:42.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Siyempre, pagdadayain asr-002133 01:56:42.220 --> 01:56:42.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung project, asr-002134 01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:43.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kahit anong ganda asr-002135 01:56:43.360 --> 01:56:43.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng design, asr-002136 01:56:44.540 --> 01:56:45.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baliwala yun, no? asr-002137 01:56:45.880 --> 01:56:46.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, maybe asr-002138 01:56:46.560 --> 01:56:47.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: input asr-002139 01:56:47.400 --> 01:56:48.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: from asr-002140 01:56:48.280 --> 01:56:49.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the DNR asr-002141 01:56:49.420 --> 01:56:50.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: also asr-002142 01:56:50.460 --> 01:56:51.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think it's time asr-002143 01:56:51.400 --> 01:56:51.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we have a new asr-002144 01:56:51.860 --> 01:56:52.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: building code, asr-002145 01:56:53.180 --> 01:56:53.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: di ba? asr-002146 01:56:54.180 --> 01:56:55.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Marami din sa asr-002147 01:56:55.160 --> 01:56:56.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: problema ng baha asr-002148 01:56:56.480 --> 01:56:57.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: building in places asr-002149 01:56:57.960 --> 01:56:58.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: where asr-002150 01:56:58.500 --> 01:56:59.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you're not supposed asr-002151 01:56:59.900 --> 01:57:00.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to build. asr-002152 01:57:01.320 --> 01:57:02.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't know asr-002153 01:57:02.020 --> 01:57:03.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: about the clearances asr-002154 01:57:03.020 --> 01:57:04.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the penalties, asr-002155 01:57:04.400 --> 01:57:05.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but kung kasi asr-002156 01:57:05.460 --> 01:57:06.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: maliit yung penalties, asr-002157 01:57:06.780 --> 01:57:07.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so si asr-002158 01:57:07.260 --> 01:57:09.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Director Matias asr-002159 01:57:09.060 --> 01:57:10.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: actually helped us asr-002160 01:57:10.780 --> 01:57:12.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: two, three years ago, asr-002161 01:57:12.100 --> 01:57:12.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: no? asr-002162 01:57:12.700 --> 01:57:13.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: There were some issues asr-002163 01:57:13.860 --> 01:57:14.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with some asr-002164 01:57:14.700 --> 01:57:15.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: boundaries, asr-002165 01:57:16.200 --> 01:57:16.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: et cetera, asr-002166 01:57:16.740 --> 01:57:17.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but he asr-002167 01:57:17.780 --> 01:57:21.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: told us, asr-002168 01:57:21.200 --> 01:57:22.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, baka gusto nyo makita asr-002169 01:57:22.300 --> 01:57:23.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung saan may mga asr-002170 01:57:23.320 --> 01:57:25.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: river at may tributary asr-002171 01:57:25.240 --> 01:57:25.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Taguig, asr-002172 01:57:25.800 --> 01:57:26.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ngayon wala na. asr-002173 01:57:27.280 --> 01:57:27.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And it's actually asr-002174 01:57:27.960 --> 01:57:29.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: helpful, no? asr-002175 01:57:29.920 --> 01:57:30.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And for example, asr-002176 01:57:30.720 --> 01:57:31.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if it's in a subdivision asr-002177 01:57:31.840 --> 01:57:33.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at wala pang kondo doon asr-002178 01:57:33.720 --> 01:57:35.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the subdivision owner asr-002179 01:57:35.700 --> 01:57:36.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may pera, asr-002180 01:57:37.020 --> 01:57:37.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: siguro, asr-002181 01:57:37.700 --> 01:57:38.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: madaling maghabulan, asr-002182 01:57:38.620 --> 01:57:38.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: eh, di ba? asr-002183 01:57:39.300 --> 01:57:39.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But if it's asr-002184 01:57:39.960 --> 01:57:41.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 20,000 people there already asr-002185 01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:42.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or schools, asr-002186 01:57:42.840 --> 01:57:43.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: et cetera, asr-002187 01:57:44.020 --> 01:57:45.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: napakahirap, eh. asr-002188 01:57:45.300 --> 01:57:45.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, baka dapat asr-002189 01:57:45.880 --> 01:57:46.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: balik na rin natin asr-002190 01:57:46.660 --> 01:57:47.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung process. asr-002191 01:57:47.780 --> 01:57:48.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And, kasi if you look, asr-002192 01:57:49.180 --> 01:57:50.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I remember when I was asr-002193 01:57:50.380 --> 01:57:51.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in high school, asr-002194 01:57:51.520 --> 01:57:52.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: my dad allowed me asr-002195 01:57:52.300 --> 01:57:53.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to go to Cebu. asr-002196 01:57:53.300 --> 01:57:53.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: My sister and I asr-002197 01:57:53.980 --> 01:57:54.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: had friends there. asr-002198 01:57:55.340 --> 01:57:56.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala talagang tao asr-002199 01:57:56.160 --> 01:57:56.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Mactan, eh. asr-002200 01:57:57.420 --> 01:57:57.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No? asr-002201 01:57:57.640 --> 01:57:58.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And, and, asr-002202 01:57:58.540 --> 01:57:59.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: even Cebu City, asr-002203 01:57:59.580 --> 01:58:00.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: walang traffic, di ba? asr-002204 01:58:00.520 --> 01:58:00.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, asr-002205 01:58:01.240 --> 01:58:02.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I love Cebu, asr-002206 01:58:03.080 --> 01:58:04.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but kung ano mistakes asr-002207 01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:04.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng Metro Manila, asr-002208 01:58:05.540 --> 01:58:06.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ginaya lang ng Cebu. asr-002209 01:58:07.020 --> 01:58:07.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And that's why asr-002210 01:58:07.780 --> 01:58:08.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I love Palawan, asr-002211 01:58:09.820 --> 01:58:11.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bohol, asr-002212 01:58:12.160 --> 01:58:12.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because they haven't asr-002213 01:58:12.960 --> 01:58:14.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: made the same mistakes asr-002214 01:58:14.140 --> 01:58:15.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that we have. asr-002215 01:58:15.700 --> 01:58:16.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, Davao is different asr-002216 01:58:16.900 --> 01:58:17.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: just because, asr-002217 01:58:17.780 --> 01:58:19.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Davao is three times asr-002218 01:58:19.120 --> 01:58:20.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bigger than Metro Manila, asr-002219 01:58:20.320 --> 01:58:21.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so sa land area lang asr-002220 01:58:21.380 --> 01:58:24.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: napakalaki, ano. asr-002221 01:58:24.640 --> 01:58:25.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Rizal, asr-002222 01:58:25.800 --> 01:58:27.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because nauna Bulacan asr-002223 01:58:27.060 --> 01:58:30.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na mag-develop, asr-002224 01:58:30.760 --> 01:58:31.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka mas may pag-asa pa asr-002225 01:58:31.920 --> 01:58:33.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang Rizal sa zoning asr-002226 01:58:33.740 --> 01:58:34.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and planning asr-002227 01:58:34.380 --> 01:58:35.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: rather than Bulacan, asr-002228 01:58:35.580 --> 01:58:37.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which is always flooded asr-002229 01:58:37.200 --> 01:58:37.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ngayon, no? asr-002230 01:58:38.580 --> 01:58:39.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Protected areas asr-002231 01:58:39.620 --> 01:58:40.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: as number three, asr-002232 01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:42.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I won't discuss that asr-002233 01:58:42.060 --> 01:58:43.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because the women asr-002234 01:58:43.680 --> 01:58:44.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in the Senate asr-002235 01:58:44.280 --> 01:58:46.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have done a good job asr-002236 01:58:46.200 --> 01:58:47.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: here, Senator Riza, asr-002237 01:58:47.220 --> 01:58:47.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Pio, asr-002238 01:58:47.780 --> 01:58:49.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Loren, asr-002239 01:58:49.380 --> 01:58:50.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Cynthia Villar, asr-002240 01:58:51.260 --> 01:58:52.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: among others, asr-002241 01:58:52.280 --> 01:58:53.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: among others in the past, asr-002242 01:58:54.120 --> 01:58:55.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: over the past 15 years, asr-002243 01:58:56.320 --> 01:58:57.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinutukan nila to. asr-002244 01:58:57.840 --> 01:58:59.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And kayo din naman, asr-002245 01:58:59.400 --> 01:58:59.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, asr-002246 01:58:59.960 --> 01:59:00.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: once in a while, asr-002247 01:59:00.600 --> 01:59:01.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: parang sa Bohol asr-002248 01:59:01.600 --> 01:59:02.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or sa Tagaytay asr-002249 01:59:02.720 --> 01:59:04.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung may tinayo doon, asr-002250 01:59:04.840 --> 01:59:05.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: once in a while may issue, asr-002251 01:59:06.040 --> 01:59:06.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but more or less, asr-002252 01:59:07.060 --> 01:59:08.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think you're on that. asr-002253 01:59:09.580 --> 01:59:10.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Number four, asr-002254 01:59:11.140 --> 01:59:13.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this is our work, asr-002255 01:59:13.180 --> 01:59:14.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but baka you can share. asr-002256 01:59:15.220 --> 01:59:16.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If you look at yung NPA na ngayon asr-002257 01:59:16.940 --> 01:59:17.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or yung era asr-002258 01:59:17.620 --> 01:59:18.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dati, diba? asr-002259 01:59:19.220 --> 01:59:20.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pagka kasi yung city asr-002260 01:59:20.640 --> 01:59:22.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagkaroon ng asr-002261 01:59:22.880 --> 01:59:24.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: commercial industrial, asr-002262 01:59:25.500 --> 01:59:26.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron na siyang asr-002263 01:59:26.300 --> 01:59:27.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mataas na era, asr-002264 01:59:28.500 --> 01:59:29.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron na siyang asr-002265 01:59:29.320 --> 01:59:30.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: real property tax, asr-002266 01:59:31.060 --> 01:59:32.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may business tax pa. asr-002267 01:59:32.820 --> 01:59:34.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero kung forested asr-002268 01:59:34.100 --> 01:59:34.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or asr-002269 01:59:34.760 --> 01:59:36.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: agricultural, asr-002270 01:59:37.400 --> 01:59:37.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala. asr-002271 01:59:38.680 --> 01:59:39.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, asr-002272 01:59:39.500 --> 01:59:40.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lahat tuloy ng asr-002273 01:59:40.240 --> 01:59:42.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: municipalities asr-002274 01:59:42.180 --> 01:59:43.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at provinces asr-002275 01:59:43.100 --> 01:59:45.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gusto maging highly urbanized asr-002276 01:59:45.160 --> 01:59:45.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi asr-002277 01:59:45.440 --> 01:59:48.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what can you spend asr-002278 01:59:48.620 --> 01:59:49.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba? asr-002279 01:59:49.860 --> 01:59:51.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: To improve the lives asr-002280 01:59:51.100 --> 01:59:53.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of people there, no? asr-002281 01:59:53.360 --> 01:59:54.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, baka that formula asr-002282 01:59:54.640 --> 01:59:56.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: could change asr-002283 01:59:56.020 --> 01:59:57.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and baka the environment asr-002284 01:59:57.020 --> 01:59:58.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: department asr-002285 01:59:58.220 --> 02:00:00.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: could propose asr-002286 02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:00.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that asr-002287 02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:02.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa cabinet na dapat may incentive asr-002288 02:00:02.440 --> 02:00:03.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung green ka. asr-002289 02:00:04.120 --> 02:00:06.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung ganyan ngayon agriculture, ganito ka. asr-002290 02:00:06.920 --> 02:00:08.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dapat ganito yung asr-002291 02:00:08.080 --> 02:00:09.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: aid mo. asr-002292 02:00:09.900 --> 02:00:12.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Of course, I can't speak asr-002293 02:00:12.240 --> 02:00:14.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for our city, Taguig, but sa laki asr-002294 02:00:14.280 --> 02:00:15.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: let's say ng real property tax, asr-002295 02:00:16.560 --> 02:00:17.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung sasabihin mong asr-002296 02:00:17.620 --> 02:00:19.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we have to share X percent asr-002297 02:00:19.840 --> 02:00:22.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with our neighbors across the Laguna Lake asr-002298 02:00:22.240 --> 02:00:23.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: who will keep it green. asr-002299 02:00:24.420 --> 02:00:26.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Why? Because as they asr-002300 02:00:26.180 --> 02:00:27.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: cut down the trees there, asr-002301 02:00:27.360 --> 02:00:29.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nag-erode then into the Laguna Lake. asr-002302 02:00:29.560 --> 02:00:30.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Apektado din namang asr-002303 02:00:30.580 --> 02:00:33.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kami. And I would assume asr-002304 02:00:33.300 --> 02:00:35.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that's the same with whatever lake or asr-002305 02:00:35.400 --> 02:00:37.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: river we have all around the asr-002306 02:00:37.360 --> 02:00:38.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: country na pag yung isang side asr-002307 02:00:38.880 --> 02:00:41.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: develop, pero siya actually asr-002308 02:00:41.280 --> 02:00:42.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang magpopulate ng asr-002309 02:00:42.340 --> 02:00:45.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lake. Pero yung kabilang side na hindi asr-002310 02:00:45.220 --> 02:00:45.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: develop, asr-002311 02:00:46.900 --> 02:00:49.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he or she or the city asr-002312 02:00:49.140 --> 02:00:51.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gets all of the same asr-002313 02:00:51.240 --> 02:00:52.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: problems but not the resources. asr-002314 02:00:54.300 --> 02:00:55.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The last one asr-002315 02:00:55.400 --> 02:00:57.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is segmentation. asr-002316 02:00:57.360 --> 02:00:58.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May infrastructure ba kayo sa DNR? asr-002317 02:00:59.080 --> 02:01:00.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala. DPWH lahat yun. asr-002318 02:01:05.440 --> 02:01:06.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Through the DPWH. asr-002319 02:01:07.580 --> 02:01:08.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa Manila may ka. asr-002320 02:01:10.400 --> 02:01:11.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi yung asr-002321 02:01:11.520 --> 02:01:12.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: panahon ni asr-002322 02:01:12.260 --> 02:01:14.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: President Aquino, asr-002323 02:01:15.600 --> 02:01:17.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they disfavor dredging asr-002324 02:01:17.040 --> 02:01:18.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi ang tingin nga nila, asr-002325 02:01:18.940 --> 02:01:20.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ninanakaw lahat, which is asr-002326 02:01:20.360 --> 02:01:23.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which has some truth. asr-002327 02:01:23.960 --> 02:01:25.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But dredging per se asr-002328 02:01:25.200 --> 02:01:27.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is not bad. And some asr-002329 02:01:27.220 --> 02:01:29.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: cities bought their own dredging asr-002330 02:01:29.060 --> 02:01:29.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: machine. asr-002331 02:01:31.060 --> 02:01:32.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kinansel din yung LLDA asr-002332 02:01:32.780 --> 02:01:35.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 18 billion asr-002333 02:01:35.100 --> 02:01:36.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or something that asr-002334 02:01:36.340 --> 02:01:38.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: was a real dredging. asr-002335 02:01:40.240 --> 02:01:40.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, asr-002336 02:01:41.000 --> 02:01:43.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not going to discuss all of this asr-002337 02:01:43.220 --> 02:01:45.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: now, maybe sa plenary or maybe asr-002338 02:01:45.180 --> 02:01:47.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa committees, but I just wanted asr-002339 02:01:47.200 --> 02:01:49.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to put this on your asr-002340 02:01:49.240 --> 02:01:51.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doorstep na malaki din yung asr-002341 02:01:51.320 --> 02:01:52.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: role ng DNR in asr-002342 02:01:52.860 --> 02:01:54.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: preventing a flood control asr-002343 02:01:54.640 --> 02:01:57.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: scandal and preventing future floods. asr-002344 02:01:57.220 --> 02:01:59.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I agree with you, asr-002345 02:01:59.180 --> 02:02:01.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: even if you don't say it, yung ngipin ng asr-002346 02:02:01.020 --> 02:02:03.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: inyong batas. Because nga asr-002347 02:02:03.280 --> 02:02:04.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa laki ng pera, asr-002348 02:02:04.960 --> 02:02:06.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the other elephant in the room, of course, is asr-002349 02:02:06.760 --> 02:02:09.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: reclamations. I don't really know the asr-002350 02:02:09.180 --> 02:02:11.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: truth. I would assume that the studies asr-002351 02:02:11.100 --> 02:02:13.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Bulacan Airport and sa Manila Bay asr-002352 02:02:13.100 --> 02:02:15.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is true. But of course, asr-002353 02:02:15.280 --> 02:02:17.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: every time babahan ng undoy level asr-002354 02:02:17.300 --> 02:02:18.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or asr-002355 02:02:18.080 --> 02:02:20.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: abagat level, asr-002356 02:02:21.640 --> 02:02:23.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we go back to asr-002357 02:02:23.100 --> 02:02:25.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the question, is the asr-002358 02:02:25.140 --> 02:02:27.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: reclamation contributing? But the reality asr-002359 02:02:27.180 --> 02:02:28.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is, I mean, huwag tayo magbuluhan dito, asr-002360 02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:30.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: napakalaking pera. And asr-002361 02:02:30.900 --> 02:02:32.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: madaling i-stop pag hindi mo pa asr-002362 02:02:32.680 --> 02:02:34.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: start. Pero once you start asr-002363 02:02:34.880 --> 02:02:36.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at billion-billion na yung asr-002364 02:02:36.280 --> 02:02:38.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nandyan, it's not easy to asr-002365 02:02:38.880 --> 02:02:40.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fight. asr-002366 02:02:40.980 --> 02:02:42.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So maybe the asr-002367 02:02:42.560 --> 02:02:44.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: penalties and yung ngipin asr-002368 02:02:44.780 --> 02:02:47.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng environmental laws has to be so asr-002369 02:02:47.020 --> 02:02:48.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sharp that you won't even asr-002370 02:02:48.720 --> 02:02:50.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: start. So that's asr-002371 02:02:50.640 --> 02:02:52.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how we, when we were asr-002372 02:02:52.780 --> 02:02:54.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kids and we did not participate in asr-002373 02:02:54.720 --> 02:02:56.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that SECMICH, uso asr-002374 02:02:56.820 --> 02:02:58.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi yung mga motel eh, diba? asr-002375 02:02:58.700 --> 02:03:00.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tagig, Kapitbahay, Pasig, asr-002376 02:03:00.640 --> 02:03:02.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pasay, etc. So we were thinking asr-002377 02:03:02.800 --> 02:03:04.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how do we prevent motels asr-002378 02:03:04.880 --> 02:03:06.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Tagig when asr-002379 02:03:06.640 --> 02:03:08.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: under the law? So asr-002380 02:03:08.600 --> 02:03:11.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: my ordinance, pinagbawal. asr-002381 02:03:11.560 --> 02:03:12.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Which is bawal under the asr-002382 02:03:12.880 --> 02:03:14.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Constitution because you can regulate pero hindi mo asr-002383 02:03:14.640 --> 02:03:16.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinagbawal. But the logic was asr-002384 02:03:16.880 --> 02:03:18.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if it's so hassle to even asr-002385 02:03:18.820 --> 02:03:21.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: start, walang maglalagay. asr-002386 02:03:21.780 --> 02:03:22.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero kung na-start mo na asr-002387 02:03:22.960 --> 02:03:25.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tapos sabi mo, boss, bawal short time, asr-002388 02:03:25.160 --> 02:03:26.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: boss, bawal ang marumi, asr-002389 02:03:26.820 --> 02:03:28.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: boss, bawal dito, maglalagayan asr-002390 02:03:28.740 --> 02:03:30.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lang eh. So we asr-002391 02:03:30.320 --> 02:03:32.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: decided whether it's a casino, asr-002392 02:03:32.760 --> 02:03:35.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether it's a sabungan, whether it's a asr-002393 02:03:35.060 --> 02:03:36.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: motel. From the start, huwag na kayo magtayo asr-002394 02:03:36.920 --> 02:03:38.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dito, pakiusap na lang sa asr-002395 02:03:38.360 --> 02:03:40.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: iba. So I don't know asr-002396 02:03:40.760 --> 02:03:42.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how we can get there, but asr-002397 02:03:42.640 --> 02:03:45.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: especially in areas asr-002398 02:03:45.080 --> 02:03:46.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that are asr-002399 02:03:46.980 --> 02:03:48.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: by the lakes, tributaries, asr-002400 02:03:49.100 --> 02:03:50.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: rivers, or yung mga no-build asr-002401 02:03:50.840 --> 02:03:52.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: zones, diba? I think asr-002402 02:03:52.960 --> 02:03:54.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's easier said than done. asr-002403 02:03:55.280 --> 02:03:56.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Even for the LGUs, ang daling asr-002404 02:03:56.700 --> 02:03:58.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabihin sa kapitan, sa mayor na asr-002405 02:03:58.420 --> 02:04:00.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung mga sindikato ngayon, asr-002406 02:04:00.700 --> 02:04:02.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: AI na rin, high-tech na rin, asr-002407 02:04:02.600 --> 02:04:04.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: give them two days to asr-002408 02:04:04.860 --> 02:04:06.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: one week, may community asr-002409 02:04:06.740 --> 02:04:08.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na doon, may human rights asr-002410 02:04:08.900 --> 02:04:11.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lawyers na sila, may media component, asr-002411 02:04:11.220 --> 02:04:12.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may gina. So it's not easy. I'm not asr-002412 02:04:12.940 --> 02:04:14.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: saying it's easy. I'm just saying that asr-002413 02:04:14.560 --> 02:04:16.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka sa kasakali, whether asr-002414 02:04:16.700 --> 02:04:18.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's high-class subdivisions or asr-002415 02:04:18.700 --> 02:04:20.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: syndicated, asr-002416 02:04:21.080 --> 02:04:24.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: not the asr-002417 02:04:24.800 --> 02:04:26.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: informal settlers who dapat natin asr-002418 02:04:26.540 --> 02:04:28.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tulungan, but the syndicates, asr-002419 02:04:28.880 --> 02:04:30.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka stricter environmental asr-002420 02:04:30.760 --> 02:04:32.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: laws and regulations asr-002421 02:04:32.300 --> 02:04:33.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: could be done. asr-002422 02:04:35.040 --> 02:04:36.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So having said that, asr-002423 02:04:36.660 --> 02:04:38.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that's my point in going to asr-002424 02:04:38.680 --> 02:04:40.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the LLDA, and with your permission asr-002425 02:04:40.660 --> 02:04:41.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Madam Chair, asr-002426 02:04:41.820 --> 02:04:44.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: GM, magandang hapon. asr-002427 02:04:46.560 --> 02:04:48.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So I do support 100% asr-002428 02:04:48.760 --> 02:04:51.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung paghihigpit ng LLDA. asr-002429 02:04:51.580 --> 02:04:52.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You know, my first speech asr-002430 02:04:52.820 --> 02:04:54.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Congress, 98, asr-002431 02:04:54.520 --> 02:04:56.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bago akong congressman, 98, asr-002432 02:04:56.540 --> 02:04:58.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: was, I see asr-002433 02:04:58.520 --> 02:05:00.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the Laguna Lake, I see the asr-002434 02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:02.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: authority, where is the development? asr-002435 02:05:03.220 --> 02:05:04.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yun yung speech ko, LLDA, asr-002436 02:05:05.240 --> 02:05:06.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1998. Now, asr-002437 02:05:06.500 --> 02:05:08.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's 28 years later. asr-002438 02:05:10.660 --> 02:05:12.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: We still have similar asr-002439 02:05:12.500 --> 02:05:14.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: questions, but I do support asr-002440 02:05:14.200 --> 02:05:16.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: strict, reasonable, relevant asr-002441 02:05:16.920 --> 02:05:20.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: rules and regulations and implementation. asr-002442 02:05:21.520 --> 02:05:22.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ito lang ang question ko. asr-002443 02:05:23.000 --> 02:05:24.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Is it for all or is it asr-002444 02:05:24.640 --> 02:05:26.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: selective? Number asr-002445 02:05:26.540 --> 02:05:28.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: two, is it authentic or is it asr-002446 02:05:28.300 --> 02:05:30.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: political? And number asr-002447 02:05:30.300 --> 02:05:32.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: three, hanap solusyon ba or hanap asr-002448 02:05:32.500 --> 02:05:34.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: butas? So just to asr-002449 02:05:34.400 --> 02:05:36.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: test my theories and to give you an asr-002450 02:05:36.180 --> 02:05:38.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: opportunity, may I ask about asr-002451 02:05:38.220 --> 02:05:40.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the developments in Anguno asr-002452 02:05:40.380 --> 02:05:42.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Rizal? Kamusta po asr-002453 02:05:42.740 --> 02:05:43.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung mga asr-002454 02:05:43.400 --> 02:05:45.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: similar sa tagig? Yung mga linear asr-002455 02:05:45.980 --> 02:05:47.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: parks, yung mga asr-002456 02:05:47.020 --> 02:05:49.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: development doon? asr-002457 02:05:49.920 --> 02:05:52.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're looking behind. I think you should know that asr-002458 02:05:52.260 --> 02:05:54.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: by heart. Yung sa tagig, asr-002459 02:05:54.300 --> 02:05:54.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: alam na alam mo. asr-002460 02:05:56.540 --> 02:05:58.940 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala pong asr-002461 02:05:58.940 --> 02:06:01.100 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: political, walang asr-002462 02:06:01.100 --> 02:06:02.900 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: pinipili, lahat po asr-002463 02:06:02.900 --> 02:06:05.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: actional. Yes, that's a conclusion of asr-002464 02:06:05.020 --> 02:06:06.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: law. Conclusion of asr-002465 02:06:06.960 --> 02:06:08.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fact, yung sinasabi mo. I'm asr-002466 02:06:08.840 --> 02:06:11.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: testing you. I'm asking you about asr-002467 02:06:11.060 --> 02:06:13.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anguno Rizal. May permit asr-002468 02:06:13.000 --> 02:06:14.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ba yung mga projects doon? asr-002469 02:06:15.220 --> 02:06:17.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: According to my lawyer, asr-002470 02:06:17.560 --> 02:06:17.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may mga asr-002471 02:06:17.980 --> 02:06:19.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: CDO ngayon. asr-002472 02:06:20.240 --> 02:06:22.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In the same manner asr-002473 02:06:22.820 --> 02:06:25.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na ikaw mismo nagpapa-interview asr-002474 02:06:25.100 --> 02:06:26.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagdating sa tagig, asr-002475 02:06:26.540 --> 02:06:28.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sunod-sunod yung taon nyo dyan, etc. asr-002476 02:06:29.220 --> 02:06:30.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: These are the areas asr-002477 02:06:30.660 --> 02:06:32.320 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I'm going to say is not the buong Laguna Lake. asr-002478 02:06:32.720 --> 02:06:33.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It is just a few. asr-002479 02:06:34.500 --> 02:06:34.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And asr-002480 02:06:34.740 --> 02:06:38.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: their development is very similar. asr-002481 02:06:39.280 --> 02:06:40.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So I would appreciate asr-002482 02:06:40.420 --> 02:06:42.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung alam mo, alam mo. Kung hindi, then asr-002483 02:06:42.340 --> 02:06:44.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ask someone na alam niya. But asr-002484 02:06:44.360 --> 02:06:46.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dapat alam mo, kasi sa tagig, alam na alam mo. asr-002485 02:06:47.360 --> 02:06:48.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So sa asr-002486 02:06:48.440 --> 02:06:50.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anguno Rizal, ano yung mga projects asr-002487 02:06:50.480 --> 02:06:52.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon? Alam mo, asr-002488 02:06:52.660 --> 02:06:54.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi? I'm testing asr-002489 02:06:54.700 --> 02:06:55.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you, not LLDA. asr-002490 02:06:56.540 --> 02:06:58.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're not that familiar, okay. asr-002491 02:06:58.820 --> 02:07:00.440 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yung tagig po, kaya po asr-002492 02:07:00.440 --> 02:07:02.600 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: nasabing alam po, dahil asr-002493 02:07:02.600 --> 02:07:04.040 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: nakita ko po. Yes. asr-002494 02:07:04.380 --> 02:07:06.700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: At hindi ko po, hindi ko po asr-002495 02:07:06.700 --> 02:07:08.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinipili yung tagig lang. Yes. So bakit asr-002496 02:07:08.680 --> 02:07:09.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi nyo hindi nakita yung Anguno? asr-002497 02:07:10.920 --> 02:07:12.620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ang nakita po, yung pinipirma asr-002498 02:07:12.620 --> 02:07:14.480 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kung CDO, yung asr-002499 02:07:14.480 --> 02:07:16.200 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: inialagyan nilang... No, no, no, no, sir. asr-002500 02:07:16.680 --> 02:07:18.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You were interviewed... asr-002501 02:07:18.540 --> 02:07:20.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, you were interviewed asr-002502 02:07:20.880 --> 02:07:22.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and you were speaking about asr-002503 02:07:22.620 --> 02:07:24.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tagig. So you know tagig. asr-002504 02:07:24.680 --> 02:07:26.520 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: So, Mr. Senator, ako yung na-interview. asr-002505 02:07:26.540 --> 02:07:28.460 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Hindi lang po tagig yung sinasabing. asr-002506 02:07:28.500 --> 02:07:30.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. Okay. Meron po kasing... asr-002507 02:07:30.360 --> 02:07:32.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige po, sir. Huwag niyo nang pangunahan. asr-002508 02:07:32.360 --> 02:07:34.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Isa-isayin natin. So, asr-002509 02:07:34.320 --> 02:07:36.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anguno, hindi mo alam doon. asr-002510 02:07:36.640 --> 02:07:38.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, let me ask, how many years asr-002511 02:07:38.460 --> 02:07:40.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na yung projects sa Anguno Rizal? asr-002512 02:07:40.820 --> 02:07:42.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: These are good projects, ha? Mga taga-Anguno. asr-002513 02:07:43.080 --> 02:07:44.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala akong question. Ang gaganda asr-002514 02:07:44.640 --> 02:07:46.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng projects din ninyo. How many years asr-002515 02:07:46.620 --> 02:07:47.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na itong ginagawa doon? asr-002516 02:07:49.960 --> 02:07:50.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, you asr-002517 02:07:50.580 --> 02:07:52.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: don't know also. I can ask your people. asr-002518 02:07:52.780 --> 02:07:54.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ikaw tinatanong ko, do you know or do you not know? asr-002519 02:07:54.680 --> 02:07:55.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You do not know. Okay. asr-002520 02:07:56.540 --> 02:07:58.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, when did you start asking asr-002521 02:07:58.660 --> 02:07:59.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: them to get permits? asr-002522 02:08:03.480 --> 02:08:04.240 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: For what? asr-002523 02:08:04.980 --> 02:08:05.420 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: What? asr-002524 02:08:06.160 --> 02:08:06.640 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Issue. asr-002525 02:08:09.060 --> 02:08:10.780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Even before the... asr-002526 02:08:11.460 --> 02:08:14.780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yeah, even before the issue that was raised. asr-002527 02:08:14.800 --> 02:08:16.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, when nga, sir? 2026, asr-002528 02:08:16.840 --> 02:08:18.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2025, 24? asr-002529 02:08:18.820 --> 02:08:20.560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: When did you... Last year lang po ako dito, asr-002530 02:08:20.840 --> 02:08:21.720 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Mr. Senator. Sir? Sir? asr-002531 02:08:21.720 --> 02:08:23.460 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Last year lang po ako sa... Kaya nga, sir. asr-002532 02:08:23.560 --> 02:08:24.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nga, baka naman asr-002533 02:08:24.620 --> 02:08:26.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinapakuhan nyo na si asr-002534 02:08:26.320 --> 02:08:28.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: permits even before you were there, eh. asr-002535 02:08:28.160 --> 02:08:30.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nga, tinatanong ko, when did you start asr-002536 02:08:30.580 --> 02:08:32.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: asking them to get permits asr-002537 02:08:32.320 --> 02:08:34.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for DPWH asr-002538 02:08:34.020 --> 02:08:35.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: infra-projects? asr-002539 02:08:35.660 --> 02:08:37.820 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Prior to 2018 pa raw. Bakit? asr-002540 02:08:37.940 --> 02:08:38.940 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: But that's not true. asr-002541 02:08:40.700 --> 02:08:42.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I was speaker in 2019. asr-002542 02:08:43.520 --> 02:08:44.620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Pwede na po ba siyang... asr-002543 02:08:44.620 --> 02:08:45.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige po. asr-002544 02:08:46.180 --> 02:08:48.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Punta ako sa iyo, ma'am. Test ko lang muna si asr-002545 02:08:48.240 --> 02:08:50.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: chairman, ha? Tapos puntaan kita. asr-002546 02:08:50.900 --> 02:08:52.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What about Muntinlupa, sir? asr-002547 02:08:53.640 --> 02:08:54.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kamusta yung mga asr-002548 02:08:54.360 --> 02:08:55.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: projects nila doon, by the way? asr-002549 02:08:56.320 --> 02:08:58.580 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ah, actually, nagserve din po ako asr-002550 02:08:58.580 --> 02:08:58.920 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ng asr-002551 02:08:58.920 --> 02:09:01.560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sulat ni Mayor to stop any asr-002552 02:09:01.560 --> 02:09:02.240 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: reclamation. asr-002553 02:09:03.580 --> 02:09:04.500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Meron man sila. asr-002554 02:09:04.580 --> 02:09:06.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung meron man. So, hindi nyo rin alam kung asr-002555 02:09:06.520 --> 02:09:08.480 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: meron o wala. Ang meron po doon, yung asr-002556 02:09:08.480 --> 02:09:10.260 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: existing project ng asr-002557 02:09:10.260 --> 02:09:11.860 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Laguna Roadnet. asr-002558 02:09:12.000 --> 02:09:14.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ma'am, sandali lang, ha? Maglinaw asr-002559 02:09:14.560 --> 02:09:16.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tayo. Pinatest ko si sir kasi asr-002560 02:09:16.340 --> 02:09:18.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: alam na alam niya yung sa tagig at asr-002561 02:09:18.340 --> 02:09:19.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi daw siya namimili. asr-002562 02:09:20.040 --> 02:09:22.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, one year na siya dyan. So, dapat asr-002563 02:09:22.140 --> 02:09:24.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: alam niya din yung iba. So, huwag niyong asr-002564 02:09:24.240 --> 02:09:25.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: aabutan ng papel. asr-002565 02:09:26.320 --> 02:09:28.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I will be fair. Kapag ka meron asr-002566 02:09:28.400 --> 02:09:30.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mga hindi niya naman dapat, asr-002567 02:09:30.520 --> 02:09:32.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi naman niya alam na walang papel, asr-002568 02:09:32.640 --> 02:09:34.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I will ask that you provide. asr-002569 02:09:34.020 --> 02:09:35.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Paaminin ko naman po. So, sir, asr-002570 02:09:36.200 --> 02:09:38.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano po yung pinapatigil nyo sa Muntinlupa? asr-002571 02:09:38.360 --> 02:09:40.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron ba? Wala. Or meron asr-002572 02:09:40.400 --> 02:09:42.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung meron? May pinatigil po ako asr-002573 02:09:42.380 --> 02:09:43.880 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ngayon doon yung asr-002574 02:09:43.880 --> 02:09:44.360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yung asr-002575 02:09:44.360 --> 02:09:48.360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: mga private na nagkiklaim. asr-002576 02:09:48.580 --> 02:09:49.800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Okay. Tapos may ongoing asr-002577 02:09:49.800 --> 02:09:52.080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Laguna Road Network ng asr-002578 02:09:52.080 --> 02:09:54.080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: DPWH na ito yung asr-002579 02:09:54.080 --> 02:09:56.160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: approved ng board na isa asr-002580 02:09:56.160 --> 02:09:56.300 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yung mga private na nagkiklaim. asr-002581 02:09:56.320 --> 02:09:58.100 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: So, stop na natin yung patent reclamation. asr-002582 02:09:58.300 --> 02:10:00.400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Tama na tayo kung approved man yung asr-002583 02:10:00.400 --> 02:10:02.560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: 12 hectares, tama na tayo sa 6 hectares. asr-002584 02:10:02.820 --> 02:10:04.260 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Okay. Masyado na kumakain. asr-002585 02:10:04.320 --> 02:10:06.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, sa Anguno, may asr-002586 02:10:06.100 --> 02:10:08.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: CDO kayo. Sa Muntinlupa, may asr-002587 02:10:08.100 --> 02:10:10.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: CDO din kayo. Okay. Binyang. asr-002588 02:10:11.880 --> 02:10:12.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong asr-002589 02:10:12.160 --> 02:10:13.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: project sa Binyang? asr-002590 02:10:15.060 --> 02:10:16.240 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Baka ano din po ito. asr-002591 02:10:16.320 --> 02:10:18.360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Staging area ng Laguna Road Network. asr-002592 02:10:18.480 --> 02:10:20.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron kami dyan. Hindi po baka. asr-002593 02:10:20.340 --> 02:10:21.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron po kami talaga dyan. asr-002594 02:10:21.960 --> 02:10:23.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Napakaraming lakeshore projects. asr-002595 02:10:24.280 --> 02:10:25.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. Alam nyo hindi? asr-002596 02:10:26.320 --> 02:10:28.240 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Hindi. Ang alam ko lang po yung Laguna asr-002597 02:10:28.240 --> 02:10:30.240 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Road Network. Okay. Yun lang alam nyo doon. asr-002598 02:10:31.140 --> 02:10:32.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ang question asr-002599 02:10:32.460 --> 02:10:33.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ko po sa inyo, asr-002600 02:10:34.200 --> 02:10:36.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa tatlo na yun, did you go there and asr-002601 02:10:36.200 --> 02:10:38.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: put a board na cease and desist? asr-002602 02:10:39.840 --> 02:10:40.700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sa ano po? asr-002603 02:10:40.780 --> 02:10:42.100 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Naglagay kami dyan. Sa Taytay. asr-002604 02:10:42.480 --> 02:10:44.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Sa Taguig, naglagay kasi. asr-002605 02:10:44.540 --> 02:10:45.720 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: May nakita kami. Yes. asr-002606 02:10:46.040 --> 02:10:48.520 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sa Kabuyo po, ako mismo nakakita. asr-002607 02:10:48.920 --> 02:10:49.860 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: May kaso po sa amin ninyo. asr-002608 02:10:50.220 --> 02:10:52.180 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sir, huwag nyo pangunahan. asr-002609 02:10:53.120 --> 02:10:54.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Simple lang tanong ko. asr-002610 02:10:55.020 --> 02:10:56.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nilagyan nyo rin ba yung asr-002611 02:10:56.020 --> 02:10:58.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: angguno ng board na asr-002612 02:10:58.020 --> 02:10:59.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi wala pa silang permit, sabi nyo may asr-002613 02:10:59.860 --> 02:11:01.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: CDO, nilagyan nyo rin ba yung board asr-002614 02:11:01.980 --> 02:11:03.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to cease and desist? asr-002615 02:11:03.060 --> 02:11:03.880 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ano ba nilagyan nyo doon? asr-002616 02:11:04.940 --> 02:11:05.400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Previous. asr-002617 02:11:07.240 --> 02:11:11.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, siguro naman engineer kayo. asr-002618 02:11:11.580 --> 02:11:13.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Abogado ko, professional tayo. asr-002619 02:11:14.240 --> 02:11:15.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kayo tinatanong ko eh. asr-002620 02:11:15.620 --> 02:11:16.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi mo ba? asr-002621 02:11:16.680 --> 02:11:18.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, nung naglagay kayo ng asr-002622 02:11:18.700 --> 02:11:20.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: cease and desist sa Taguig, asr-002623 02:11:20.600 --> 02:11:22.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinatawag nyo pa lahat ng media eh. asr-002624 02:11:22.900 --> 02:11:24.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? Nagpa-interview pa asr-002625 02:11:24.280 --> 02:11:25.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: para ipakita doon. asr-002626 02:11:26.020 --> 02:11:27.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, tinitignan ko lang kung gano'n din asr-002627 02:11:27.800 --> 02:11:28.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa ibang lugar. asr-002628 02:11:29.020 --> 02:11:29.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Simple lang naman. asr-002629 02:11:29.700 --> 02:11:31.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not accusing you of anything yet. asr-002630 02:11:31.140 --> 02:11:31.860 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: May media po. asr-002631 02:11:33.900 --> 02:11:36.200 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sir, hindi po ako rin patawag sa Taguig ng media. asr-002632 02:11:36.340 --> 02:11:39.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, wala lang sumulpot yung mga media asr-002633 02:11:39.420 --> 02:11:40.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: paglagay nyo doon. asr-002634 02:11:40.260 --> 02:11:43.500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Siguro po kasi may ombudsman nga doon eh. asr-002635 02:11:43.980 --> 02:11:44.600 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: May PRA. asr-002636 02:11:44.860 --> 02:11:46.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May bahay sila doon? asr-002637 02:11:46.180 --> 02:11:48.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May bahay sila doon? asr-002638 02:11:48.600 --> 02:11:49.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nung paglagay nyo nung ano doon? asr-002639 02:11:50.820 --> 02:11:52.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala pang few minutes pagkatapos. asr-002640 02:11:52.860 --> 02:11:53.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Huwag tayong magbuluhan dito. asr-002641 02:11:53.900 --> 02:11:55.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, answer my questions please. asr-002642 02:11:56.020 --> 02:11:58.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sangguno, naglagay ba kayo asr-002643 02:11:58.620 --> 02:12:03.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng board na sinasabi nyo season disease? asr-002644 02:12:04.740 --> 02:12:05.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi mo dati? asr-002645 02:12:05.580 --> 02:12:06.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes or no, sir? asr-002646 02:12:06.800 --> 02:12:07.520 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Hindi ko alam eh. asr-002647 02:12:07.620 --> 02:12:09.420 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Kaya sabi niya dati raw po naglagay sila. asr-002648 02:12:09.460 --> 02:12:09.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-002649 02:12:09.840 --> 02:12:11.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa Muntinlupa po, naglagay kayo? asr-002650 02:12:12.620 --> 02:12:13.280 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala po, wala po. asr-002651 02:12:13.300 --> 02:12:13.660 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala po. asr-002652 02:12:14.080 --> 02:12:15.380 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sabi niyan po, naglagay kayo? asr-002653 02:12:15.660 --> 02:12:15.880 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala. asr-002654 02:12:16.120 --> 02:12:16.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-002655 02:12:17.980 --> 02:12:21.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ang Laguna Road Network na banggit nyo po, asr-002656 02:12:22.740 --> 02:12:25.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gano'n po palaki ang lupang nire-reclaim? asr-002657 02:12:26.020 --> 02:12:29.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Now, ma'am, yung legal nyo ganyan. asr-002658 02:12:29.860 --> 02:12:32.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi I don't expect you to know all these facts. asr-002659 02:12:32.440 --> 02:12:33.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I want to be fair. asr-002660 02:12:33.760 --> 02:12:35.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anyone can help you on this. asr-002661 02:12:37.240 --> 02:12:38.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Paano ba sinusukat yung lupa dyan? asr-002662 02:12:39.040 --> 02:12:42.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In terms of square meters or cubic meters nung lupa? asr-002663 02:12:42.860 --> 02:12:44.520 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: In terms of lupa, square meters. asr-002664 02:12:44.720 --> 02:12:46.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In terms of yung sa ibabaw. asr-002665 02:12:46.780 --> 02:12:48.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But in terms yung dinidisplace mo yung lake? asr-002666 02:12:50.380 --> 02:12:50.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Volume. asr-002667 02:12:51.100 --> 02:12:51.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Volume. asr-002668 02:12:51.500 --> 02:12:55.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano ang volume ng Laguna Lake Road Network? asr-002669 02:12:56.020 --> 02:12:56.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Total. asr-002670 02:12:58.780 --> 02:13:00.320 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: An percent po yun. asr-002671 02:13:00.560 --> 02:13:02.640 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: An percent po yung total volume niya. asr-002672 02:13:03.500 --> 02:13:04.200 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sorry po. asr-002673 02:13:04.400 --> 02:13:05.200 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: An percent po yun. asr-002674 02:13:05.260 --> 02:13:06.500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Hindi po mapipredicate yun. asr-002675 02:13:06.600 --> 02:13:10.060 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Kasi gumagamit po sila ng staging area. asr-002676 02:13:10.200 --> 02:13:11.400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Katulad yung sinabi ko kanina. asr-002677 02:13:11.680 --> 02:13:13.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, huwag na po staging area. asr-002678 02:13:13.480 --> 02:13:14.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung mismong project po. asr-002679 02:13:15.400 --> 02:13:16.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung mismong project, asr-002680 02:13:17.160 --> 02:13:19.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang sabi nyo, in-approve ng board. asr-002681 02:13:19.900 --> 02:13:21.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung mismong project po. asr-002682 02:13:21.100 --> 02:13:23.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, you cannot approve, asr-002683 02:13:23.820 --> 02:13:26.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the board cannot approve without the GM's approval. asr-002684 02:13:26.020 --> 02:13:29.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And the GM, when you submit it, asr-002685 02:13:30.320 --> 02:13:33.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron pong requirements in your own regulation, asr-002686 02:13:33.620 --> 02:13:35.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: including the feasibility study, asr-002687 02:13:35.960 --> 02:13:37.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: including the program. asr-002688 02:13:38.060 --> 02:13:39.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, for example, sir, asr-002689 02:13:39.220 --> 02:13:41.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ilan lanes yung Laguna Lake Road Network? asr-002690 02:13:43.060 --> 02:13:44.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Four lanes po. asr-002691 02:13:44.300 --> 02:13:46.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Four lanes, one side or both sides? asr-002692 02:13:46.600 --> 02:13:47.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two sides. asr-002693 02:13:48.320 --> 02:13:49.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, eight lanes. asr-002694 02:13:49.020 --> 02:13:50.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two lanes, two lanes po. asr-002695 02:13:50.600 --> 02:13:51.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two lanes, two lanes. asr-002696 02:13:51.700 --> 02:13:52.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po. asr-002697 02:13:53.120 --> 02:13:53.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mali po. asr-002698 02:13:53.560 --> 02:13:55.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang sinasabing yung two lanes, two lanes po, asr-002699 02:13:56.020 --> 02:13:57.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung C6, yung road dikes sa Taguig. asr-002700 02:13:58.320 --> 02:14:00.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang LLRN po ang sinasabi ko. asr-002701 02:14:01.320 --> 02:14:05.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung LLRN po na ginagawa ngayon are six ba o eight lanes? asr-002702 02:14:06.460 --> 02:14:09.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Laguna Lake Road Network. asr-002703 02:14:09.720 --> 02:14:10.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po kayo pamilyar. asr-002704 02:14:10.800 --> 02:14:11.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nasa website nyo po yun. asr-002705 02:14:13.080 --> 02:14:13.340 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Okay. asr-002706 02:14:15.300 --> 02:14:16.800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sa website nyo po, nakalagay, asr-002707 02:14:16.860 --> 02:14:18.420 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: it's a project of LLDA. asr-002708 02:14:19.800 --> 02:14:21.500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Actually, DPWH project po yun. asr-002709 02:14:21.500 --> 02:14:25.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hoy, bakit nasa website nyo na it's a project of LLDA? asr-002710 02:14:26.020 --> 02:14:26.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Special project. asr-002711 02:14:26.520 --> 02:14:27.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Koordination lang po. asr-002712 02:14:27.180 --> 02:14:27.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Koordination lang po. asr-002713 02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:29.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi yun ang nakalagay sa website nyo. asr-002714 02:14:29.860 --> 02:14:30.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po, siguro. asr-002715 02:14:31.360 --> 02:14:33.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, koordination lang. asr-002716 02:14:33.560 --> 02:14:33.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-002717 02:14:34.200 --> 02:14:36.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Gano po kalaki ang madidisplace asr-002718 02:14:36.680 --> 02:14:39.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng Laguna Lake Road Network asr-002719 02:14:39.720 --> 02:14:41.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa lake? asr-002720 02:14:43.480 --> 02:14:44.480 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I don't have a problem. asr-002721 02:14:45.240 --> 02:14:47.120 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yung in-approve pa po ng board ito, asr-002722 02:14:47.300 --> 02:14:48.180 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: inabutan ko na po ito. asr-002723 02:14:48.200 --> 02:14:49.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, the GM doesn't care asr-002724 02:14:49.620 --> 02:14:52.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: as long as i-approve ng board? asr-002725 02:14:52.560 --> 02:14:53.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po. asr-002726 02:14:53.740 --> 02:14:54.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dapat. asr-002727 02:14:54.820 --> 02:14:55.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bakit po hindi nyo alam? asr-002728 02:14:56.020 --> 02:14:57.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Inabutan ko na pong approve yun eh. asr-002729 02:14:57.820 --> 02:14:59.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Am I correct? asr-002730 02:14:59.420 --> 02:15:00.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's the biggest asr-002731 02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:01.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: project now in the Laguna Lake? asr-002732 02:15:02.000 --> 02:15:04.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, yes. So, the biggest project? asr-002733 02:15:04.200 --> 02:15:05.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi mo alam kung ano yung project? asr-002734 02:15:05.740 --> 02:15:07.960 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Alam po. May mga tao naman akong technical asr-002735 02:15:07.960 --> 02:15:09.860 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: na nakasendunan. Sige na po. So, where's the asr-002736 02:15:09.860 --> 02:15:11.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: technical people? Ano po, asr-002737 02:15:12.000 --> 02:15:14.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gano'ng kalaki po ang i-reclaim asr-002738 02:15:14.000 --> 02:15:14.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng Laguna Lake? asr-002739 02:15:15.600 --> 02:15:18.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Habang tinatawag mo technical people mo, asr-002740 02:15:18.320 --> 02:15:20.180 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I cannot answer that for now. asr-002741 02:15:20.380 --> 02:15:22.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, you said your technical people are there. asr-002742 02:15:23.580 --> 02:15:24.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yeah po, pero... asr-002743 02:15:24.620 --> 02:15:25.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, call them. asr-002744 02:15:26.300 --> 02:15:28.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Where are they? They're here? asr-002745 02:15:28.480 --> 02:15:29.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No. Where are they? asr-002746 02:15:30.160 --> 02:15:31.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's office hours. asr-002747 02:15:31.860 --> 02:15:32.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ito, ito. asr-002748 02:15:33.560 --> 02:15:36.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, habang tinatawagan nyo, sir, asr-002749 02:15:37.300 --> 02:15:37.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is the Laguna asr-002750 02:15:37.980 --> 02:15:39.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lake Road Network asr-002751 02:15:39.860 --> 02:15:41.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a reclamation project? asr-002752 02:15:42.840 --> 02:15:44.120 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: No. No, it's not. asr-002753 02:15:44.480 --> 02:15:46.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, reclamation lang po doon asr-002754 02:15:46.560 --> 02:15:48.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung ginagamit nilang staging area. asr-002755 02:15:48.800 --> 02:15:50.740 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Okay. Which is supposed to be, pagkatapos po noon, asr-002756 02:15:51.200 --> 02:15:52.080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: cut an over sa asr-002757 02:15:52.080 --> 02:15:53.200 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: LLDA. asr-002758 02:15:53.560 --> 02:15:56.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Do you have a copy of your asr-002759 02:15:56.720 --> 02:15:58.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: board resolution asr-002760 02:15:58.440 --> 02:15:59.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: number? asr-002761 02:16:00.000 --> 02:16:05.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2006-283 asr-002762 02:16:05.640 --> 02:16:07.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Policy Guidelines asr-002763 02:16:07.300 --> 02:16:09.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: on Reclamation within the Shorelands asr-002764 02:16:09.000 --> 02:16:10.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of Laguna Lake. Meron po kayo nyan? asr-002765 02:16:11.700 --> 02:16:12.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dala nyo po. asr-002766 02:16:15.220 --> 02:16:15.700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yan. asr-002767 02:16:20.660 --> 02:16:21.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Saan dito yung asr-002768 02:16:21.480 --> 02:16:21.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: definition? asr-002769 02:16:23.780 --> 02:16:24.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano yung definition? asr-002770 02:16:26.180 --> 02:16:26.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong asr-002771 02:16:26.700 --> 02:16:27.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: reclamation? asr-002772 02:16:27.100 --> 02:16:30.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Let there be asr-002773 02:16:30.480 --> 02:16:32.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: reclamation. Pakibasa, sir. asr-002774 02:16:33.960 --> 02:16:34.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Land reclamation. asr-002775 02:16:37.980 --> 02:16:39.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige, ma'am. asr-002776 02:16:39.160 --> 02:16:40.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You can help GM. asr-002777 02:16:43.740 --> 02:16:45.460 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Board Resolution 283 asr-002778 02:16:45.460 --> 02:16:47.000 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Series of 2006 asr-002779 02:16:47.000 --> 02:16:49.200 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Resolution Providing asr-002780 02:16:49.200 --> 02:16:50.340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Policy Guidelines asr-002781 02:16:50.340 --> 02:16:52.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ma'am, letter B lang yung definition lang nung asr-002782 02:16:52.560 --> 02:16:53.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: land reclamation. asr-002783 02:16:53.740 --> 02:16:54.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Letter B. asr-002784 02:16:55.320 --> 02:16:56.740 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Land reclamation is a delivery of land reclamation. asr-002785 02:16:57.100 --> 02:16:58.100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: It's a deliberate change asr-002786 02:16:58.100 --> 02:17:01.900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: or conversion asr-002787 02:17:01.900 --> 02:17:03.360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: of a wasteland asr-002788 02:17:03.360 --> 02:17:05.500 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: or bodies of water asr-002789 02:17:05.500 --> 02:17:07.580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: into land suitable asr-002790 02:17:07.580 --> 02:17:09.340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: for use of asr-002791 02:17:09.340 --> 02:17:11.320 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: habitation or recreation, asr-002792 02:17:12.340 --> 02:17:12.980 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: cultivation, asr-002793 02:17:13.920 --> 02:17:15.320 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: commercial or industrial, asr-002794 02:17:16.220 --> 02:17:17.440 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: hydroelectric power asr-002795 02:17:17.440 --> 02:17:19.900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: generation, flood control asr-002796 02:17:19.900 --> 02:17:21.340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: or similar activities asr-002797 02:17:21.340 --> 02:17:22.720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: by such method asr-002798 02:17:22.720 --> 02:17:25.340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: as irrigation, drainage, asr-002799 02:17:25.920 --> 02:17:26.880 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: flood control, asr-002800 02:17:27.100 --> 02:17:29.040 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: by altering the mineral asr-002801 02:17:29.040 --> 02:17:31.120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: or organic contents of the soil, asr-002802 02:17:31.880 --> 02:17:33.140 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: landfilling or any asr-002803 02:17:33.140 --> 02:17:35.260 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: activity which creates asr-002804 02:17:35.260 --> 02:17:37.240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: a new land where there was asr-002805 02:17:37.240 --> 02:17:39.300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: once wasteland or asr-002806 02:17:39.300 --> 02:17:41.080 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: water. It includes asr-002807 02:17:41.080 --> 02:17:43.400 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the draining of swamps or seasonably asr-002808 02:17:43.400 --> 02:17:44.940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: submerged wetlands. asr-002809 02:17:46.140 --> 02:17:47.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Isa-isay natin, ha? asr-002810 02:17:48.000 --> 02:17:49.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bago ilagay isimento yung asr-002811 02:17:49.720 --> 02:17:51.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kalya sa ibabaw ng asr-002812 02:17:51.060 --> 02:17:53.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Laguna Road Network, magla-landfill asr-002813 02:17:53.460 --> 02:17:54.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: muna, sir, di ba? asr-002814 02:17:55.500 --> 02:17:56.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama? asr-002815 02:17:57.100 --> 02:18:05.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po, hindi po naka-stilts yung Laguna Lake. asr-002816 02:18:06.920 --> 02:18:09.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po, alam nyo po kung magkano yun asr-002817 02:18:09.300 --> 02:18:11.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pag isi-stilts mo yung 8 lanes. asr-002818 02:18:11.800 --> 02:18:12.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They are landfilling. asr-002819 02:18:13.860 --> 02:18:15.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I-google nyo lang po ngayon, asr-002820 02:18:15.140 --> 02:18:15.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tignan nyo yung picture. asr-002821 02:18:16.700 --> 02:18:18.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Huwag na tayo magbulahan doon. asr-002822 02:18:18.760 --> 02:18:20.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? You will landfill first, di ba? asr-002823 02:18:21.740 --> 02:18:22.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You will landfill. asr-002824 02:18:23.380 --> 02:18:24.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa ibabaw ng landfill, asr-002825 02:18:24.800 --> 02:18:26.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you will put as kalye. asr-002826 02:18:27.100 --> 02:18:27.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama. asr-002827 02:18:29.200 --> 02:18:31.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So sa inyo, sir, hindi reclamation yun. asr-002828 02:18:31.560 --> 02:18:32.620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Merong portion po ganun. asr-002829 02:18:32.740 --> 02:18:34.120 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Iba pong design, elevated eh. asr-002830 02:18:34.240 --> 02:18:36.280 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: May elevated pong design eh. asr-002831 02:18:36.300 --> 02:18:38.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, hindi design, hindi ibang design. asr-002832 02:18:38.840 --> 02:18:40.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Iisa pinag-uusapan natin dito. asr-002833 02:18:40.780 --> 02:18:43.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Laguna Lake Road Network. asr-002834 02:18:43.560 --> 02:18:45.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nga po, may portion sa Laguna asr-002835 02:18:45.260 --> 02:18:47.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: D-Bay, elevated yung asr-002836 02:18:47.060 --> 02:18:48.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O sige, yung portion sa elevated, asr-002837 02:18:48.880 --> 02:18:50.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tanggalin mo na. Yung portion na hindi. asr-002838 02:18:51.220 --> 02:18:52.280 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ay, may reclamation yun. asr-002839 02:18:52.280 --> 02:18:52.820 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Hindi naman po. asr-002840 02:18:53.140 --> 02:18:55.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kanina, sinabi nyo, hindi reclamation yung project na to eh. asr-002841 02:18:56.640 --> 02:18:56.800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: O. asr-002842 02:18:57.100 --> 02:19:00.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nag-apply ba ang DPWH as a reclamation project? asr-002843 02:19:01.220 --> 02:19:03.060 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: As I mentioned earlier. asr-002844 02:19:03.340 --> 02:19:04.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: As a reclamation project. asr-002845 02:19:04.860 --> 02:19:06.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes or no lang yun, sir? asr-002846 02:19:06.460 --> 02:19:08.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did they apply as a reclamation project? asr-002847 02:19:09.460 --> 02:19:09.780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: No. asr-002848 02:19:10.000 --> 02:19:10.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No. Okay. asr-002849 02:19:11.720 --> 02:19:14.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When was the West of Manggahan asr-002850 02:19:14.040 --> 02:19:16.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: floodway program implemented asr-002851 02:19:16.080 --> 02:19:17.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in the city of Taguig asr-002852 02:19:17.840 --> 02:19:19.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: all the way to Taytay, Rizal? asr-002853 02:19:20.700 --> 02:19:22.060 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I don't... asr-002854 02:19:22.060 --> 02:19:23.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You can, your people can help you. asr-002855 02:19:25.360 --> 02:19:27.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yan ang kine-question nyo ngayon eh. asr-002856 02:19:27.100 --> 02:19:28.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, dapat alam nyo. asr-002857 02:19:29.300 --> 02:19:30.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung i-question ninyo, hindi nyo alam. asr-002858 02:19:31.940 --> 02:19:32.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ma'am, asr-002859 02:19:32.800 --> 02:19:35.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kailan yung West of Manggahan floodway program? asr-002860 02:19:37.120 --> 02:19:38.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kailan in-approve? Kailan sinimulan? asr-002861 02:19:40.780 --> 02:19:42.600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, the Manggahan floodway asr-002862 02:19:42.600 --> 02:19:44.820 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: is a program of asr-002863 02:19:44.820 --> 02:19:47.100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: then President Marcos asr-002864 02:19:47.100 --> 02:19:49.100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: to help the... asr-002865 02:19:50.080 --> 02:19:50.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, ma'am. asr-002866 02:19:50.680 --> 02:19:51.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When po? When? asr-002867 02:19:51.940 --> 02:19:52.720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sorry, sir. asr-002868 02:19:52.800 --> 02:19:55.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Nakailan inspection po kayo sa Taguig Lakeshore? asr-002869 02:19:55.240 --> 02:19:56.940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: For the... asr-002870 02:19:56.940 --> 02:19:57.700 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: At Taguig Lakeshore, asr-002871 02:19:57.860 --> 02:20:01.200 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: we conducted around asr-002872 02:20:01.200 --> 02:20:07.440 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: when I'm the enforcement... asr-002873 02:20:07.440 --> 02:20:09.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, ngayon lang. Itong year na to. asr-002874 02:20:09.520 --> 02:20:10.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Since the issue started. asr-002875 02:20:11.020 --> 02:20:11.820 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Two times, sir. asr-002876 02:20:11.940 --> 02:20:12.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two times? asr-002877 02:20:12.540 --> 02:20:12.920 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. asr-002878 02:20:12.960 --> 02:20:15.020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: That includes together with the ombudsman asr-002879 02:20:15.020 --> 02:20:15.820 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: and by yourself. asr-002880 02:20:15.840 --> 02:20:16.260 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. asr-002881 02:20:16.560 --> 02:20:18.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And hindi nyo alam that that's part of asr-002882 02:20:18.440 --> 02:20:20.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the West of Manggahan floodway program asr-002883 02:20:20.220 --> 02:20:21.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or it's an extension of it? asr-002884 02:20:22.360 --> 02:20:23.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, if I may... asr-002885 02:20:23.280 --> 02:20:24.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, sir. Ma'am, alam nyo o hindi? asr-002886 02:20:24.820 --> 02:20:25.520 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: No, sir. asr-002887 02:20:25.860 --> 02:20:26.060 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Hindi. asr-002888 02:20:26.060 --> 02:20:27.680 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I'm not aware that it's part of it. asr-002889 02:20:27.680 --> 02:20:28.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Is GM aware? asr-002890 02:20:32.000 --> 02:20:32.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. asr-002891 02:20:32.880 --> 02:20:34.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: C6 is a nickname asr-002892 02:20:34.380 --> 02:20:36.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that is not the real C6. asr-002893 02:20:36.520 --> 02:20:37.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The LLRN is the C6. asr-002894 02:20:38.360 --> 02:20:39.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This is a road dike asr-002895 02:20:39.460 --> 02:20:41.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which we call C6 asr-002896 02:20:41.720 --> 02:20:43.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but it's not the real C6. asr-002897 02:20:43.520 --> 02:20:44.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, when was it implemented? asr-002898 02:20:46.600 --> 02:20:47.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi nyo alam. asr-002899 02:20:47.340 --> 02:20:48.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's okay kung hindi nyo alam. asr-002900 02:20:48.920 --> 02:20:49.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-002901 02:20:49.740 --> 02:20:50.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, asr-002902 02:20:50.320 --> 02:20:52.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we finished negotiations asr-002903 02:20:52.400 --> 02:20:53.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with the city asr-002904 02:20:53.540 --> 02:20:55.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the DPWH asr-002905 02:20:55.080 --> 02:20:55.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in 1990. asr-002906 02:20:56.060 --> 02:20:57.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2000 asr-002907 02:20:57.040 --> 02:20:59.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with Secretary Vigilar. asr-002908 02:21:00.080 --> 02:21:00.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: President, asr-002909 02:21:01.060 --> 02:21:01.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: karamihan yan, asr-002910 02:21:02.000 --> 02:21:03.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: see everything, ma'am. asr-002911 02:21:03.240 --> 02:21:03.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama kayo, asr-002912 02:21:03.820 --> 02:21:05.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: President Marcos Sr., asr-002913 02:21:05.620 --> 02:21:06.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung planning. asr-002914 02:21:07.020 --> 02:21:08.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero katulad ng C5, asr-002915 02:21:08.200 --> 02:21:09.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: panahon na ni President Corian. asr-002916 02:21:10.280 --> 02:21:11.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung C6, okay. asr-002917 02:21:12.020 --> 02:21:12.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, asr-002918 02:21:13.500 --> 02:21:14.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ilan ang alignment asr-002919 02:21:14.440 --> 02:21:16.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng West of Manggahan project asr-002920 02:21:16.760 --> 02:21:18.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: para sa Laguna Lake? asr-002921 02:21:18.800 --> 02:21:19.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ilan yung proposed alignment? asr-002922 02:21:21.800 --> 02:21:23.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kayo naging investiga, asr-002923 02:21:23.200 --> 02:21:23.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dapat alam nyo yan. asr-002924 02:21:26.060 --> 02:21:32.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya kayo pinasama ng Ombudsman asr-002925 02:21:32.120 --> 02:21:33.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at saka ng PRA, asr-002926 02:21:33.800 --> 02:21:34.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA kayo, asr-002927 02:21:34.840 --> 02:21:35.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo may alam. asr-002928 02:21:36.020 --> 02:21:37.060 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yung C6 po, asr-002929 02:21:37.480 --> 02:21:38.540 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi ko alam yung asr-002930 02:21:38.540 --> 02:21:39.620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kung ilan. asr-002931 02:21:39.640 --> 02:21:40.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi alam. asr-002932 02:21:40.380 --> 02:21:41.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala kayong tao sa LLDA asr-002933 02:21:41.840 --> 02:21:42.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na may alam. asr-002934 02:21:43.260 --> 02:21:44.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ilan yung alignment, ma'am? asr-002935 02:21:45.740 --> 02:21:46.220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, asr-002936 02:21:46.380 --> 02:21:47.600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I think you're referring to asr-002937 02:21:47.600 --> 02:21:49.240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the East Bank and the West Bank asr-002938 02:21:49.240 --> 02:21:50.080 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: of that... asr-002939 02:21:50.080 --> 02:21:51.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, isang project doon. asr-002940 02:21:51.480 --> 02:21:51.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. asr-002941 02:21:51.800 --> 02:21:52.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's the road dike. asr-002942 02:21:52.640 --> 02:21:53.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Isang road dike. asr-002943 02:21:53.440 --> 02:21:53.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. asr-002944 02:21:54.300 --> 02:21:55.720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: So, based on our asr-002945 02:21:55.720 --> 02:21:56.680 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: technical, sir, asr-002946 02:21:57.240 --> 02:21:58.840 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the construction of the asr-002947 02:21:58.840 --> 02:22:00.100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: overall Manggahan Floodway asr-002948 02:22:00.100 --> 02:22:01.480 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: project began in the early asr-002949 02:22:01.480 --> 02:22:02.520 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: 1980s asr-002950 02:22:02.520 --> 02:22:04.080 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: and was completed in 1986. asr-002951 02:22:04.080 --> 02:22:04.380 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: No, ma'am. asr-002952 02:22:04.480 --> 02:22:05.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're talking about asr-002953 02:22:05.740 --> 02:22:07.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the Napindan Spillway, asr-002954 02:22:07.400 --> 02:22:07.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Manggahan. asr-002955 02:22:08.200 --> 02:22:09.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm talking about asr-002956 02:22:09.120 --> 02:22:10.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the West of Manggahan asr-002957 02:22:10.580 --> 02:22:13.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: flood control project asr-002958 02:22:13.160 --> 02:22:15.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which is the... asr-002959 02:22:15.260 --> 02:22:16.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yun ang problema sa Google. asr-002960 02:22:16.880 --> 02:22:17.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-002961 02:22:17.260 --> 02:22:18.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, follow, sir. asr-002962 02:22:18.500 --> 02:22:19.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ma'am, asr-002963 02:22:19.560 --> 02:22:21.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: parang we have limited time. asr-002964 02:22:21.240 --> 02:22:21.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, sir. asr-002965 02:22:21.880 --> 02:22:22.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ilan yung alignment? asr-002966 02:22:22.620 --> 02:22:28.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: There are three alignments. asr-002967 02:22:28.720 --> 02:22:29.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: One is inland, asr-002968 02:22:30.480 --> 02:22:31.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: one is in the water, asr-002969 02:22:32.180 --> 02:22:33.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and one is in between. asr-002970 02:22:33.720 --> 02:22:36.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano yung pinili ng DPWH at LLDA? asr-002971 02:22:39.800 --> 02:22:41.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam nyo, hindi nyo alam. asr-002972 02:22:41.720 --> 02:22:41.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-002973 02:22:42.400 --> 02:22:43.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang pinili yung gitna. asr-002974 02:22:44.920 --> 02:22:46.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ilan hektarya asr-002975 02:22:46.740 --> 02:22:49.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang na-expose sa labas ng dike? asr-002976 02:22:50.540 --> 02:22:51.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because of that. asr-002977 02:22:52.040 --> 02:22:52.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-002978 02:22:52.620 --> 02:22:57.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam nyo, hindi. asr-002979 02:22:58.160 --> 02:22:58.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Let's save time. asr-002980 02:22:58.920 --> 02:22:59.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi nyo alam. asr-002981 02:22:59.820 --> 02:23:00.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi rin alam asr-002982 02:23:00.360 --> 02:23:01.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ni Senator Ping Lakson. asr-002983 02:23:02.360 --> 02:23:03.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi rin alam asr-002984 02:23:03.100 --> 02:23:03.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng mga kasama nyo asr-002985 02:23:03.980 --> 02:23:04.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nag-iimbestiga. asr-002986 02:23:05.260 --> 02:23:06.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya akala nyo asr-002987 02:23:06.080 --> 02:23:07.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: reclaimed yung lupa. asr-002988 02:23:07.600 --> 02:23:10.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: There was 1,300 hectares asr-002989 02:23:10.160 --> 02:23:11.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: outside the dike. asr-002990 02:23:12.440 --> 02:23:12.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Question. asr-002991 02:23:14.600 --> 02:23:15.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Outside the dike, asr-002992 02:23:15.620 --> 02:23:16.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1,300 hectares. asr-002993 02:23:17.320 --> 02:23:18.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano ang sinabi ng NEDA asr-002994 02:23:18.880 --> 02:23:22.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: regarding the 1,300 hectares asr-002995 02:23:22.100 --> 02:23:22.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: outside the dike? asr-002996 02:23:22.620 --> 02:23:25.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You have to get approval sa NEDA asr-002997 02:23:25.860 --> 02:23:27.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pag may mga reclamations. asr-002998 02:23:27.220 --> 02:23:28.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano sinabi ng NEDA? asr-002999 02:23:28.320 --> 02:23:28.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron? asr-003000 02:23:28.860 --> 02:23:29.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam nyo, hindi. asr-003001 02:23:31.040 --> 02:23:31.760 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sorry, sir. asr-003002 02:23:31.880 --> 02:23:32.620 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: We haven't... asr-003003 02:23:34.100 --> 02:23:35.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, because none of you asr-003004 02:23:35.340 --> 02:23:36.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: cared to ask. asr-003005 02:23:37.400 --> 02:23:38.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: None of you cared to ask. asr-003006 02:23:38.880 --> 02:23:39.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You just went on media. asr-003007 02:23:40.720 --> 02:23:41.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You just did what you want. asr-003008 02:23:43.780 --> 02:23:45.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: None of you asked. asr-003009 02:23:45.700 --> 02:23:46.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang sinabi ng NEDA, asr-003010 02:23:47.360 --> 02:23:49.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung 1,300 hectares na yan asr-003011 02:23:49.260 --> 02:23:51.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ay in danger na mag-erode asr-003012 02:23:51.360 --> 02:23:52.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: into the water. asr-003013 02:23:52.620 --> 02:23:54.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because nasa labas ng dike. asr-003014 02:23:55.620 --> 02:23:56.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And DPWH asr-003015 02:23:56.780 --> 02:23:58.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: promised a polder dike asr-003016 02:23:58.620 --> 02:23:59.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that they never did. asr-003017 02:24:00.520 --> 02:24:00.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Question. asr-003018 02:24:01.640 --> 02:24:02.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Are you familiar with asr-003019 02:24:02.560 --> 02:24:03.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bay Breeze subdivision? asr-003020 02:24:04.760 --> 02:24:05.420 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. asr-003021 02:24:05.560 --> 02:24:05.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-003022 02:24:06.280 --> 02:24:08.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When was that open? asr-003023 02:24:09.200 --> 02:24:11.100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, based on our records, asr-003024 02:24:11.300 --> 02:24:11.800 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the Bay Breeze, asr-003025 02:24:12.580 --> 02:24:13.560 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: if I may, asr-003026 02:24:14.140 --> 02:24:15.220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the law of the LLDA asr-003027 02:24:15.220 --> 02:24:16.320 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: defining the lake asr-003028 02:24:16.320 --> 02:24:19.860 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: is passed on 1975. asr-003029 02:24:19.860 --> 02:24:22.580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: It provides for the definition, asr-003030 02:24:22.620 --> 02:24:23.840 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the definition of Laguna Lake. asr-003031 02:24:24.040 --> 02:24:26.240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: That's why we have this elevation asr-003032 02:24:26.240 --> 02:24:28.000 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: below 12.50 meters. asr-003033 02:24:28.020 --> 02:24:28.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, ma'am. asr-003034 02:24:28.940 --> 02:24:30.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1966 tapos 1975. asr-003035 02:24:31.180 --> 02:24:32.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May RA yan before that. asr-003036 02:24:32.300 --> 02:24:32.940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, po, sir. asr-003037 02:24:33.120 --> 02:24:34.520 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: So, meaning, sir, asr-003038 02:24:34.680 --> 02:24:36.160 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: prior to that 1975, asr-003039 02:24:36.640 --> 02:24:38.360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: when there are no myths and bounds yet, asr-003040 02:24:38.840 --> 02:24:40.320 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: meron pong mga nakapagpatay it asr-003041 02:24:40.320 --> 02:24:40.880 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: legally. asr-003042 02:24:41.140 --> 02:24:41.360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes. asr-003043 02:24:42.980 --> 02:24:44.940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: So, ang nangyari po dito, sir, asr-003044 02:24:45.640 --> 02:24:46.720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: noong 1975, asr-003045 02:24:47.380 --> 02:24:49.220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: doon na po nakita ni LLDA asr-003046 02:24:49.220 --> 02:24:51.300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: itong extent nga po na asr-003047 02:24:51.300 --> 02:24:51.620 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: na... asr-003048 02:24:51.620 --> 02:24:52.380 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: na... asr-003049 02:24:52.380 --> 02:24:54.180 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: na uubos po yung lake bed. asr-003050 02:24:54.720 --> 02:24:56.020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Because under our charter, asr-003051 02:24:56.160 --> 02:24:57.140 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Section 41, asr-003052 02:24:58.000 --> 02:25:00.220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yung pong Laguna Lake asr-003053 02:25:00.220 --> 02:25:02.180 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: ay may peculiar characteristic asr-003054 02:25:02.180 --> 02:25:04.100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: na pag summertime po, asr-003055 02:25:04.780 --> 02:25:05.540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: nagre-receive, asr-003056 02:25:05.680 --> 02:25:06.360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: o sa Tagalog, asr-003057 02:25:06.500 --> 02:25:07.720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: kumakati ang tubig, asr-003058 02:25:08.080 --> 02:25:09.700 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: so nakikita po yung land park. asr-003059 02:25:10.500 --> 02:25:11.940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Then, pagka po yan ay tag-ulan, asr-003060 02:25:12.140 --> 02:25:12.480 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: submerged. asr-003061 02:25:12.740 --> 02:25:13.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're talking about asr-003062 02:25:13.800 --> 02:25:15.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the lupang-arienda, asr-003063 02:25:15.540 --> 02:25:16.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which I will ask you later. asr-003064 02:25:16.860 --> 02:25:16.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. asr-003065 02:25:16.960 --> 02:25:18.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're not talking about asr-003066 02:25:18.120 --> 02:25:20.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the 1,300 hectares in Taguig asr-003067 02:25:20.840 --> 02:25:21.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: where I grew up. asr-003068 02:25:21.900 --> 02:25:22.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, asr-003069 02:25:22.380 --> 02:25:23.500 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I'm just saying... asr-003070 02:25:23.500 --> 02:25:24.400 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, yes. asr-003071 02:25:24.460 --> 02:25:24.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, asr-003072 02:25:25.840 --> 02:25:26.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to your point, asr-003073 02:25:26.560 --> 02:25:27.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay, tama. asr-003074 02:25:27.980 --> 02:25:30.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Under the 1935 Constitution, asr-003075 02:25:30.780 --> 02:25:31.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can you take land asr-003076 02:25:31.620 --> 02:25:32.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: without just compensation? asr-003077 02:25:33.260 --> 02:25:33.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, sir. asr-003078 02:25:33.920 --> 02:25:35.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Under the 1973 Constitution, asr-003079 02:25:35.820 --> 02:25:36.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can you? asr-003080 02:25:36.420 --> 02:25:37.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It also requires asr-003081 02:25:37.500 --> 02:25:38.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for just compensation. asr-003082 02:25:38.440 --> 02:25:39.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Under the 1987 Constitution? asr-003083 02:25:40.160 --> 02:25:40.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. asr-003084 02:25:40.640 --> 02:25:40.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-003085 02:25:41.300 --> 02:25:41.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, asr-003086 02:25:42.200 --> 02:25:44.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if ownership for land asr-003087 02:25:44.700 --> 02:25:47.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: even below 12.5 elevation asr-003088 02:25:47.940 --> 02:25:49.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can be proved in court, asr-003096 02:25:52.380 --> 02:25:53.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can the LLDA asr-003097 02:25:53.040 --> 02:25:53.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: confiscate that asr-003098 02:25:53.980 --> 02:25:54.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: without paying? asr-003099 02:25:55.220 --> 02:25:55.840 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: No, sir. asr-003100 02:25:56.000 --> 02:25:57.360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: As a matter of policy, asr-003101 02:25:57.620 --> 02:25:58.600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: we even respect asr-003102 02:25:58.600 --> 02:25:59.300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the existence asr-003103 02:25:59.300 --> 02:26:00.580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: of that valid titles. asr-003104 02:26:01.060 --> 02:26:01.500 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: However, asr-003105 02:26:01.680 --> 02:26:02.900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: since they are located asr-003106 02:26:02.900 --> 02:26:03.900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: in a very delicate asr-003107 02:26:03.900 --> 02:26:05.480 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: portion of the lake, asr-003108 02:26:05.980 --> 02:26:06.580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: they are still asr-003109 02:26:06.580 --> 02:26:07.800 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: required to secure asr-003110 02:26:07.800 --> 02:26:09.040 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the LLDA clearance asr-003111 02:26:09.040 --> 02:26:09.440 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: or just... asr-003112 02:26:09.440 --> 02:26:10.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No question about that. asr-003113 02:26:10.680 --> 02:26:11.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No question about that. asr-003114 02:26:12.320 --> 02:26:13.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No question. asr-003115 02:26:14.240 --> 02:26:14.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's why asr-003116 02:26:14.680 --> 02:26:15.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: binasa ko to asr-003117 02:26:15.420 --> 02:26:15.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because asr-003118 02:26:15.940 --> 02:26:17.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: iba yung asr-003119 02:26:17.200 --> 02:26:19.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano kaibahan asr-003120 02:26:19.000 --> 02:26:20.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pag magtatambak asr-003121 02:26:20.420 --> 02:26:20.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng lupa asr-003122 02:26:20.920 --> 02:26:22.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at magde-develop lang. asr-003123 02:26:22.380 --> 02:26:23.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa titled lang. asr-003124 02:26:24.200 --> 02:26:25.500 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: For the titled areas, asr-003125 02:26:25.760 --> 02:26:26.460 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: they are required asr-003126 02:26:26.460 --> 02:26:27.100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: to secure asr-003127 02:26:27.100 --> 02:26:28.400 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the shoreland development asr-003128 02:26:28.400 --> 02:26:28.820 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: clearance. asr-003129 02:26:29.000 --> 02:26:30.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, what's the difference asr-003130 02:26:30.060 --> 02:26:31.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: between may may tatayo pa lang asr-003131 02:26:31.780 --> 02:26:33.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the difference asr-003132 02:26:33.140 --> 02:26:33.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that mag... asr-003133 02:26:33.980 --> 02:26:34.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mag... asr-003134 02:26:34.440 --> 02:26:36.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: magla-landfill ka? asr-003135 02:26:36.440 --> 02:26:37.520 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, for the asr-003136 02:26:37.520 --> 02:26:39.720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: vertical development, asr-003137 02:26:40.060 --> 02:26:40.860 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: it will require asr-003138 02:26:40.860 --> 02:26:42.220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: an LLDA clearance. asr-003139 02:26:42.420 --> 02:26:42.980 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: It's different asr-003140 02:26:42.980 --> 02:26:43.820 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: from the shoreland asr-003141 02:26:43.820 --> 02:26:45.180 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: development clearance. asr-003142 02:26:45.840 --> 02:26:47.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, the difference asr-003143 02:26:47.240 --> 02:26:49.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is the reclaimed asr-003144 02:26:49.320 --> 02:26:51.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: shoreland area asr-003145 02:26:51.320 --> 02:26:52.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: clearance asr-003146 02:26:52.020 --> 02:26:53.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the asr-003147 02:26:53.100 --> 02:26:54.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: clearance to develop asr-003148 02:26:54.660 --> 02:26:55.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: shoreland. asr-003149 02:26:56.000 --> 02:26:56.380 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. asr-003150 02:26:56.400 --> 02:26:58.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, kahit private land yun, asr-003151 02:26:58.280 --> 02:26:58.760 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. asr-003152 02:26:58.900 --> 02:26:59.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pag for one reason asr-003153 02:26:59.740 --> 02:27:00.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or the other, asr-003154 02:27:00.340 --> 02:27:00.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mababa, asr-003155 02:27:00.980 --> 02:27:01.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero private land, asr-003156 02:27:02.100 --> 02:27:03.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they can still protect it. asr-003157 02:27:04.000 --> 02:27:04.440 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. asr-003158 02:27:05.240 --> 02:27:05.800 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: But... asr-003159 02:27:05.800 --> 02:27:06.780 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Subject to LLDA asr-003160 02:27:06.780 --> 02:27:07.120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: regulation. asr-003161 02:27:07.140 --> 02:27:08.600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Subject to LLDA asr-003162 02:27:08.600 --> 02:27:09.180 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: clearance. asr-003163 02:27:09.580 --> 02:27:10.020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. asr-003164 02:27:10.540 --> 02:27:12.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Let's wait for your... asr-003165 02:27:12.960 --> 02:27:13.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: GM. asr-003166 02:27:13.480 --> 02:27:14.480 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I think he had to take asr-003167 02:27:14.480 --> 02:27:15.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a break. asr-003168 02:27:15.820 --> 02:27:16.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, habang asr-003169 02:27:16.420 --> 02:27:17.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we're waiting for GM, asr-003170 02:27:18.700 --> 02:27:19.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron po kayong asr-003171 02:27:19.420 --> 02:27:20.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ma'am master plan daw? asr-003172 02:27:21.220 --> 02:27:21.940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. asr-003173 02:27:22.020 --> 02:27:23.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When will it come out? asr-003174 02:27:23.740 --> 02:27:24.960 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: It will be subjected asr-003175 02:27:24.960 --> 02:27:26.780 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: to the board approval na pa. asr-003176 02:27:27.000 --> 02:27:27.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige. asr-003177 02:27:27.460 --> 02:27:28.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm excited about that asr-003178 02:27:28.760 --> 02:27:30.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but let me ask lang. asr-003179 02:27:30.600 --> 02:27:31.220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: By December. asr-003180 02:27:31.320 --> 02:27:32.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How many marginalized asr-003181 02:27:32.380 --> 02:27:33.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fishermen are still asr-003182 02:27:33.980 --> 02:27:35.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and this is an interest also asr-003183 02:27:35.720 --> 02:27:37.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ever since of our asr-003184 02:27:37.220 --> 02:27:38.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: chairperson. asr-003185 02:27:38.540 --> 02:27:39.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Marginalized fishermen natin, asr-003186 02:27:40.460 --> 02:27:40.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ilan pa asr-003187 02:27:40.960 --> 02:27:41.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang nasa Laguna Lake? asr-003188 02:27:43.980 --> 02:27:45.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May data ba tayo? asr-003189 02:27:45.740 --> 02:27:46.460 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Fishermen? asr-003190 02:27:47.460 --> 02:27:49.660 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, I have no... asr-003191 02:27:49.660 --> 02:27:50.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less lang. asr-003192 02:27:50.200 --> 02:27:50.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less. asr-003193 02:27:50.660 --> 02:27:51.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Population. asr-003194 02:27:51.200 --> 02:27:51.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less. asr-003195 02:27:52.020 --> 02:27:53.020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I don't know. asr-003196 02:27:53.340 --> 02:27:53.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Behind me. asr-003197 02:27:54.400 --> 02:27:54.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less. asr-003198 02:27:55.080 --> 02:27:56.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam ko kasi nung pandemic asr-003199 02:27:56.400 --> 02:27:57.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon nagbibigay ng ayuda asr-003200 02:27:57.660 --> 02:27:59.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon sa area asr-003201 02:27:59.080 --> 02:27:59.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na in-inspect asr-003202 02:27:59.820 --> 02:28:00.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na in-inspect nyo eh. asr-003203 02:28:03.120 --> 02:28:04.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less 10,000. asr-003204 02:28:04.520 --> 02:28:04.900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. asr-003205 02:28:05.160 --> 02:28:05.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama? asr-003206 02:28:06.240 --> 02:28:06.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-003207 02:28:07.040 --> 02:28:07.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na-consulta ba asr-003208 02:28:07.780 --> 02:28:08.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung mga asosasyon nila asr-003209 02:28:08.860 --> 02:28:10.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa inyong master plan? asr-003210 02:28:10.480 --> 02:28:11.020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. asr-003211 02:28:11.380 --> 02:28:12.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na-consulta sila? asr-003212 02:28:12.040 --> 02:28:12.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. asr-003213 02:28:12.400 --> 02:28:13.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, if I ask them, asr-003214 02:28:13.360 --> 02:28:14.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they'll say na-consulta sila? asr-003215 02:28:14.400 --> 02:28:14.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. asr-003216 02:28:14.800 --> 02:28:15.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-003217 02:28:15.500 --> 02:28:16.360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, we have these asr-003218 02:28:16.360 --> 02:28:18.240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: representations of the pharmacies asr-003219 02:28:18.240 --> 02:28:19.520 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: representing... asr-003220 02:28:19.520 --> 02:28:19.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's good. asr-003221 02:28:19.700 --> 02:28:20.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's good. asr-003222 02:28:20.460 --> 02:28:21.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How about the LGUs? asr-003223 02:28:22.020 --> 02:28:25.000 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. asr-003224 02:28:25.340 --> 02:28:25.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Except, asr-003225 02:28:26.840 --> 02:28:28.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang Taguig hindi nyo kinonsulta. asr-003226 02:28:29.020 --> 02:28:30.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eight kilometers asr-003227 02:28:30.180 --> 02:28:31.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang amin lakeshore area. asr-003228 02:28:32.620 --> 02:28:33.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I asked if you had asr-003229 02:28:33.520 --> 02:28:34.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: consultation with them asr-003230 02:28:34.620 --> 02:28:35.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: on the... asr-003231 02:28:36.760 --> 02:28:37.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, you consulted asr-003232 02:28:37.600 --> 02:28:38.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: all LGUs asr-003233 02:28:38.400 --> 02:28:39.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: except Taguig? asr-003234 02:28:39.340 --> 02:28:39.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama ba yan? asr-003235 02:28:41.040 --> 02:28:42.300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: It is my understanding asr-003236 02:28:42.300 --> 02:28:43.680 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: that since this will affect asr-003237 02:28:43.680 --> 02:28:44.460 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: all the LGUs, asr-003238 02:28:44.580 --> 02:28:45.600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: all are consulted, sir. asr-003239 02:28:46.520 --> 02:28:47.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Well, bakit hindi na-consult asr-003240 02:28:47.940 --> 02:28:48.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang city of Taguig? asr-003241 02:28:49.400 --> 02:28:50.740 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Through the RDC, sir. asr-003242 02:28:50.840 --> 02:28:51.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: RDCs. asr-003243 02:28:52.020 --> 02:28:53.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: RDCs ng Metro Manila asr-003244 02:28:53.640 --> 02:28:54.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is MMDA. asr-003245 02:28:56.340 --> 02:28:57.280 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Saig ka lang, sir. asr-003246 02:28:57.300 --> 02:28:57.600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Wale po. asr-003247 02:28:58.200 --> 02:29:00.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang Taguig is in Metro Manila, ma'am. asr-003248 02:29:01.020 --> 02:29:02.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala po kami sa Kalamba. asr-003249 02:29:03.340 --> 02:29:03.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No. asr-003250 02:29:03.620 --> 02:29:05.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, if you consulted asr-003251 02:29:05.040 --> 02:29:05.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: through the RDC, asr-003252 02:29:06.340 --> 02:29:07.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you're consulting Rizal asr-003253 02:29:07.540 --> 02:29:08.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and Laguna, asr-003254 02:29:08.100 --> 02:29:08.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which is very good. asr-003255 02:29:09.380 --> 02:29:11.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But there are two cities asr-003256 02:29:11.460 --> 02:29:12.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Metro Manila asr-003257 02:29:12.280 --> 02:29:14.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that have a long lakeshore, asr-003258 02:29:14.280 --> 02:29:15.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which is Buntinlupa asr-003259 02:29:15.160 --> 02:29:15.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and Taguig. asr-003260 02:29:17.140 --> 02:29:18.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi nyo kinonsulta. asr-003261 02:29:18.440 --> 02:29:23.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Consultation with Taguig asr-003262 02:29:23.160 --> 02:29:24.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: regarding the master plan? asr-003263 02:29:26.320 --> 02:29:27.220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: It's a GM. asr-003264 02:29:28.040 --> 02:29:29.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bakit hindi kinonsulta asr-003265 02:29:29.300 --> 02:29:30.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung Metro Manila LGUs asr-003266 02:29:30.580 --> 02:29:31.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa inyong master plan? asr-003267 02:29:32.860 --> 02:29:34.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How can you have a master plan asr-003268 02:29:34.220 --> 02:29:36.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when the biggest stakeholders asr-003269 02:29:36.280 --> 02:29:37.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: are also not consulted? asr-003270 02:29:39.700 --> 02:29:41.060 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, we'll just check. asr-003271 02:29:41.320 --> 02:29:42.660 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: But, of course, sir, asr-003272 02:29:42.720 --> 02:29:43.200 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: definitely, asr-003273 02:29:43.760 --> 02:29:45.440 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: all the affected LGUs asr-003274 02:29:45.440 --> 02:29:47.260 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: should be consulted, sir. asr-003275 02:29:47.260 --> 02:29:48.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If you had consulted, asr-003276 02:29:48.440 --> 02:29:49.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: consultation with Taguig, asr-003277 02:29:49.740 --> 02:29:50.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then you would be familiar asr-003278 02:29:50.760 --> 02:29:53.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with the 8 kilometers development asr-003279 02:29:53.160 --> 02:29:54.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that is happening there. asr-003280 02:29:54.880 --> 02:29:55.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And you're not. asr-003281 02:29:56.700 --> 02:29:57.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sir, asr-003282 02:29:58.240 --> 02:29:59.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano yung tinap niyong projects? asr-003283 02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:01.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano yung asr-003284 02:30:01.280 --> 02:30:02.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: spin-up ng PRA asr-003285 02:30:02.220 --> 02:30:02.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for example asr-003286 02:30:02.940 --> 02:30:04.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na projects asr-003287 02:30:04.220 --> 02:30:05.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: along the Laguna Lake asr-003288 02:30:05.840 --> 02:30:07.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: about asr-003289 02:30:07.760 --> 02:30:13.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: let me ask you asr-003290 02:30:13.180 --> 02:30:14.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a different question sir asr-003291 02:30:14.220 --> 02:30:16.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa buong Laguna Lake asr-003292 02:30:16.680 --> 02:30:18.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: anong pinakamaganda asr-003293 02:30:18.640 --> 02:30:19.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang shore asr-003294 02:30:19.060 --> 02:30:19.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang lake shore asr-003295 02:30:19.840 --> 02:30:22.840 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ay nakita ko po asr-003296 02:30:22.840 --> 02:30:23.380 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tagig eh asr-003297 02:30:23.380 --> 02:30:24.300 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: be honest po asr-003298 02:30:24.300 --> 02:30:25.220 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: o tagig asr-003299 02:30:25.220 --> 02:30:25.960 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kaya po nung asr-003300 02:30:25.960 --> 02:30:26.520 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: nag-meeting ako asr-003301 02:30:26.520 --> 02:30:27.620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sa mayor ng tagig asr-003302 02:30:27.620 --> 02:30:29.080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: humingi rin po kami asr-003303 02:30:29.080 --> 02:30:29.680 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: nung copy nung asr-003304 02:30:29.680 --> 02:30:30.940 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: master plan nila asr-003305 02:30:30.940 --> 02:30:32.280 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kasi po dapat asr-003306 02:30:32.280 --> 02:30:33.860 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: standard yung atin asr-003307 02:30:33.860 --> 02:30:34.800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sa Laguna asr-003308 02:30:34.800 --> 02:30:37.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I thank you for that asr-003309 02:30:37.080 --> 02:30:37.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: both you asr-003310 02:30:37.780 --> 02:30:39.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and Secretary Dizon said asr-003311 02:30:39.360 --> 02:30:40.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang pinakamagandang asr-003312 02:30:40.980 --> 02:30:41.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lake shore asr-003313 02:30:41.460 --> 02:30:42.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ay sa tagig asr-003314 02:30:42.180 --> 02:30:43.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba asr-003315 02:30:43.260 --> 02:30:44.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can you prep the video asr-003316 02:30:44.880 --> 02:30:45.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ma'am I just asr-003317 02:30:45.600 --> 02:30:46.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's just a one minute video asr-003318 02:30:46.700 --> 02:30:47.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinakita naman po sa amin eh asr-003319 02:30:47.900 --> 02:30:49.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can you show the one minute video asr-003320 02:30:49.660 --> 02:30:50.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so asr-003321 02:30:50.000 --> 02:30:51.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang tanong ko sir asr-003322 02:30:51.500 --> 02:30:53.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung asr-003323 02:30:53.200 --> 02:30:54.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang tagig asr-003324 02:30:54.160 --> 02:30:55.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang pinakamaganda asr-003325 02:30:55.020 --> 02:30:55.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang lake shore asr-003326 02:30:55.720 --> 02:30:57.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit yung tagig asr-003327 02:30:57.080 --> 02:30:57.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lang ang inimbestigahan asr-003328 02:30:57.960 --> 02:31:00.300 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I'm not asr-003329 02:31:00.300 --> 02:31:02.500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I'm not part of that investigation asr-003330 02:31:02.500 --> 02:31:03.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but asr-003331 02:31:03.720 --> 02:31:04.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: joint kayo asr-003332 02:31:04.500 --> 02:31:05.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yeah because of the asr-003333 02:31:05.880 --> 02:31:06.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ombudsman asr-003334 02:31:06.400 --> 02:31:06.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay asr-003335 02:31:06.680 --> 02:31:08.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they invited me asr-003336 02:31:08.040 --> 02:31:08.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: question po asr-003337 02:31:08.920 --> 02:31:10.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how many times asr-003338 02:31:10.440 --> 02:31:11.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have you met with asr-003339 02:31:11.140 --> 02:31:11.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Lacson asr-003340 02:31:11.940 --> 02:31:13.080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: not yet asr-003341 02:31:13.080 --> 02:31:14.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: your people asr-003342 02:31:14.280 --> 02:31:15.940 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I don't asr-003343 02:31:15.940 --> 02:31:17.100 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: not yet asr-003344 02:31:17.100 --> 02:31:17.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: your lawyers asr-003345 02:31:17.880 --> 02:31:18.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and their lawyers asr-003346 02:31:18.820 --> 02:31:19.720 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: na asr-003347 02:31:19.720 --> 02:31:21.400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: matawag po sila sa akin asr-003348 02:31:21.400 --> 02:31:21.800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: na asr-003349 02:31:21.800 --> 02:31:22.760 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: na-invite ako asr-003350 02:31:22.760 --> 02:31:23.980 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: baka pwede asr-003351 02:31:23.980 --> 02:31:24.760 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wag na akong pumunta asr-003352 02:31:24.760 --> 02:31:25.320 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kay Senator asr-003353 02:31:25.320 --> 02:31:26.220 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tawit na lang asr-003354 02:31:26.220 --> 02:31:27.800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yun lang po ang ano ko asr-003355 02:31:27.800 --> 02:31:27.940 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: okay asr-003356 02:31:27.960 --> 02:31:29.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'll take your word for it asr-003357 02:31:29.960 --> 02:31:30.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay asr-003358 02:31:30.220 --> 02:31:31.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so let's asr-003359 02:31:31.620 --> 02:31:32.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: before we show the asr-003360 02:31:32.800 --> 02:31:33.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the video asr-003361 02:31:33.520 --> 02:31:35.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you had a meeting asr-003362 02:31:35.300 --> 02:31:36.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with the tagig asr-003363 02:31:36.160 --> 02:31:37.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: city asr-003364 02:31:37.420 --> 02:31:38.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yes asr-003365 02:31:38.060 --> 02:31:39.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and I almost called asr-003366 02:31:39.900 --> 02:31:40.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the secretary asr-003367 02:31:40.460 --> 02:31:41.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to report that asr-003368 02:31:41.540 --> 02:31:42.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and asr-003369 02:31:42.800 --> 02:31:44.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have a copy of the minutes asr-003370 02:31:44.300 --> 02:31:46.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang sinabi yung asr-003371 02:31:46.380 --> 02:31:46.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: MOA asr-003372 02:31:46.780 --> 02:31:48.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinakita sa inyo asr-003373 02:31:48.220 --> 02:31:48.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi nyo asr-003374 02:31:48.780 --> 02:31:49.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang ganda nito asr-003375 02:31:49.560 --> 02:31:50.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama po ba asr-003376 02:31:50.400 --> 02:31:53.660 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi po siguro ganon asr-003377 02:31:53.660 --> 02:31:54.140 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kasi hindi asr-003378 02:31:54.140 --> 02:31:54.900 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I have not asr-003379 02:31:54.900 --> 02:31:56.260 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I have not read the MOA asr-003380 02:31:56.260 --> 02:31:57.020 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: eto asr-003381 02:31:57.020 --> 02:31:57.500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: eto po asr-003382 02:31:57.500 --> 02:31:58.500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wala po po akong asr-003383 02:31:58.500 --> 02:31:59.900 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: MOA na nababasa asr-003384 02:31:59.900 --> 02:32:01.560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: maganda kung may MOA asr-003385 02:32:01.560 --> 02:32:02.340 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ako po siguro asr-003386 02:32:02.340 --> 02:32:03.200 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: eto po asr-003387 02:32:03.200 --> 02:32:04.600 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi ko po nababasa yun eh asr-003388 02:32:04.600 --> 02:32:05.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: very good intent asr-003389 02:32:05.740 --> 02:32:06.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang MOA asr-003390 02:32:06.340 --> 02:32:07.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the objectives asr-003391 02:32:07.840 --> 02:32:09.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ay itatama lang natin asr-003392 02:32:09.520 --> 02:32:10.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung ano ang kulang asr-003393 02:32:10.760 --> 02:32:11.360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yun asr-003394 02:32:11.360 --> 02:32:12.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung bago pa lang asr-003395 02:32:12.460 --> 02:32:13.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ako sa panahon asr-003396 02:32:13.200 --> 02:32:13.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: et cetera asr-003397 02:32:13.660 --> 02:32:14.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dotilya asr-003398 02:32:14.360 --> 02:32:15.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung sinasabi asr-003399 02:32:15.140 --> 02:32:15.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ganyan ganyan asr-003400 02:32:15.720 --> 02:32:16.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay asr-003401 02:32:16.020 --> 02:32:17.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: squatter relocation asr-003402 02:32:17.520 --> 02:32:18.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: septic tat asr-003403 02:32:18.160 --> 02:32:18.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: et cetera asr-003404 02:32:18.620 --> 02:32:19.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ganyan ganyan asr-003405 02:32:19.440 --> 02:32:21.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: maganda po ang intention asr-003406 02:32:21.520 --> 02:32:22.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: basta correct lang po asr-003407 02:32:22.660 --> 02:32:23.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: muna natin asr-003408 02:32:23.360 --> 02:32:24.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung ano ang mga kulang asr-003409 02:32:24.860 --> 02:32:25.620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tama asr-003410 02:32:25.620 --> 02:32:26.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama asr-003411 02:32:26.080 --> 02:32:27.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama yun na sinabi niya asr-003412 02:32:27.200 --> 02:32:27.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay asr-003413 02:32:27.500 --> 02:32:29.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: towards the end of the meeting asr-003414 02:32:29.140 --> 02:32:30.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinatanong kayo asr-003415 02:32:30.100 --> 02:32:31.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when can you present it asr-003416 02:32:31.080 --> 02:32:31.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to the board asr-003417 02:32:31.540 --> 02:32:32.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi mo asr-003418 02:32:32.100 --> 02:32:32.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dati asr-003419 02:32:32.660 --> 02:32:35.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may special board meetings asr-003420 02:32:35.220 --> 02:32:36.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero wala na ngayon asr-003421 02:32:36.180 --> 02:32:36.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so we have to wait asr-003422 02:32:36.900 --> 02:32:37.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the asr-003423 02:32:37.420 --> 02:32:38.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: last asr-003424 02:32:38.320 --> 02:32:39.500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: about the MOA po asr-003425 02:32:39.500 --> 02:32:40.020 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yeah asr-003426 02:32:40.020 --> 02:32:41.280 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sinagot ko po yun eh asr-003427 02:32:41.280 --> 02:32:42.080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yung sulat ni Mayor asr-003428 02:32:42.080 --> 02:32:42.880 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: no no sir asr-003429 02:32:42.880 --> 02:32:44.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sundan niyo muna ako asr-003430 02:32:44.200 --> 02:32:45.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in that same meeting asr-003431 02:32:45.520 --> 02:32:46.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinabi niyo asr-003432 02:32:46.360 --> 02:32:47.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi niyo kaya asr-003433 02:32:47.720 --> 02:32:48.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: two weeks asr-003434 02:32:48.300 --> 02:32:49.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi nga meron asr-003435 02:32:49.380 --> 02:32:51.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: walang special board meeting asr-003436 02:32:51.420 --> 02:32:52.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you have to wait asr-003437 02:32:52.220 --> 02:32:53.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the regular board meeting asr-003438 02:32:53.780 --> 02:32:54.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama asr-003439 02:32:54.480 --> 02:32:57.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have a tape asr-003440 02:32:57.340 --> 02:32:57.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of the ano asr-003441 02:32:57.860 --> 02:32:59.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: naka-tape yung inyong ano asr-003442 02:32:59.620 --> 02:33:01.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in-inform kayo asr-003443 02:33:01.360 --> 02:33:02.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that this meeting is taped asr-003444 02:33:02.380 --> 02:33:03.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because it's official asr-003445 02:33:03.120 --> 02:33:03.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have the transcript asr-003446 02:33:03.940 --> 02:33:04.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have the tape asr-003447 02:33:04.580 --> 02:33:05.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama asr-003448 02:33:05.520 --> 02:33:06.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinabi mo asr-003449 02:33:06.640 --> 02:33:07.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you have to wait asr-003450 02:33:07.140 --> 02:33:07.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the board meeting asr-003451 02:33:07.880 --> 02:33:09.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. Secretary asr-003452 02:33:09.040 --> 02:33:11.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino po ang ating rep ngayon asr-003453 02:33:11.460 --> 02:33:11.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yeah asr-003454 02:33:11.900 --> 02:33:12.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yusef Jonas asr-003455 02:33:12.960 --> 02:33:14.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: did the GM asr-003456 02:33:14.380 --> 02:33:15.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: submit the MOA asr-003457 02:33:15.220 --> 02:33:17.180 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: I have not seen the MOA asr-003458 02:33:17.180 --> 02:33:17.820 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: Mr. Senator asr-003459 02:33:17.820 --> 02:33:18.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can you check asr-003460 02:33:18.640 --> 02:33:19.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with your board secretary asr-003461 02:33:19.520 --> 02:33:19.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi po ko asr-003462 02:33:19.960 --> 02:33:21.560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: nasubmit Mr. Senator asr-003463 02:33:21.560 --> 02:33:23.160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kasi sumulat po si Mayor asr-003464 02:33:23.160 --> 02:33:23.360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sorry asr-003465 02:33:23.360 --> 02:33:24.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi pa po ako tapos asr-003466 02:33:24.360 --> 02:33:24.840 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi asr-003467 02:33:24.840 --> 02:33:25.520 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tinatanong niyo po asr-003468 02:33:25.520 --> 02:33:25.700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yeah asr-003469 02:33:25.700 --> 02:33:26.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinatanong ko siya asr-003470 02:33:26.620 --> 02:33:27.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung sinabit mo siya asr-003471 02:33:27.180 --> 02:33:28.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi ito yung susunod asr-003472 02:33:28.340 --> 02:33:28.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kong tanong asr-003473 02:33:28.820 --> 02:33:31.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: after mo isubmit yun asr-003474 02:33:31.060 --> 02:33:32.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tumawag ka na lang asr-003475 02:33:32.760 --> 02:33:33.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa city asr-003476 02:33:33.280 --> 02:33:34.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at sinabi mo asr-003477 02:33:34.160 --> 02:33:34.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sorry asr-003478 02:33:34.840 --> 02:33:35.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi na ako pwedeng asr-003479 02:33:35.760 --> 02:33:37.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: makipag-meeting sa inyo asr-003480 02:33:37.020 --> 02:33:38.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at hindi na po asr-003481 02:33:38.600 --> 02:33:39.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kailangan yung MOA asr-003482 02:33:39.600 --> 02:33:40.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi asr-003483 02:33:40.020 --> 02:33:42.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nasa batas naman lahat asr-003484 02:33:42.240 --> 02:33:43.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yan ang sinabi niyo asr-003485 02:33:43.160 --> 02:33:43.920 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wala po ako asr-003486 02:33:43.920 --> 02:33:45.400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tinatawag ng galon asr-003487 02:33:45.400 --> 02:33:45.820 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wala po ko asr-003488 02:33:45.820 --> 02:33:46.680 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tinatawag ng galon asr-003489 02:33:46.680 --> 02:33:47.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then why wasn't asr-003490 02:33:47.540 --> 02:33:48.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there a second meeting asr-003491 02:33:48.460 --> 02:33:49.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sumulat po ako asr-003492 02:33:49.520 --> 02:33:50.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kay Mayor asr-003493 02:33:50.260 --> 02:33:51.700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: na sinagot ko yung asr-003494 02:33:51.700 --> 02:33:52.700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ano about the MOA asr-003495 02:33:52.700 --> 02:33:56.380 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi po ako asr-003496 02:33:56.380 --> 02:33:57.160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tumatawag doon asr-003497 02:33:57.180 --> 02:33:59.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: your letter asr-003498 02:33:59.000 --> 02:34:00.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: on September 11 asr-003499 02:34:00.000 --> 02:34:00.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: said asr-003500 02:34:00.520 --> 02:34:01.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: not necessary asr-003501 02:34:01.760 --> 02:34:02.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na yung MOA asr-003502 02:34:02.540 --> 02:34:03.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and then yung asr-003503 02:34:03.620 --> 02:34:04.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagpadala ng letter asr-003504 02:34:04.540 --> 02:34:05.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinabi niyo asr-003505 02:34:05.160 --> 02:34:06.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ayaw niyo na makipag-meeting asr-003506 02:34:06.460 --> 02:34:08.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagpakita na lang asr-003507 02:34:08.320 --> 02:34:08.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo today asr-003508 02:34:08.920 --> 02:34:09.320 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I'm not asr-003509 02:34:09.320 --> 02:34:10.360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I had no intention asr-003510 02:34:10.360 --> 02:34:10.640 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: to do that asr-003511 02:34:10.640 --> 02:34:12.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taguig has been asking you asr-003512 02:34:12.020 --> 02:34:12.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for a meeting asr-003513 02:34:12.600 --> 02:34:14.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: again and again and again asr-003514 02:34:14.100 --> 02:34:15.240 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: at sabi niyo asr-003515 02:34:15.240 --> 02:34:15.400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi asr-003516 02:34:15.400 --> 02:34:15.940 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: that time asr-003517 02:34:15.940 --> 02:34:17.160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: natapat ng Congress asr-003518 02:34:17.160 --> 02:34:18.260 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yung budget asr-003519 02:34:18.260 --> 02:34:20.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so September 11 asr-003520 02:34:20.300 --> 02:34:22.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: until October 20 asr-003521 02:34:22.520 --> 02:34:23.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: budget sa house asr-003522 02:34:23.620 --> 02:34:24.360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi asr-003523 02:34:24.360 --> 02:34:25.400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kaya po asr-003524 02:34:25.400 --> 02:34:26.360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sumulat na lang ako asr-003525 02:34:26.360 --> 02:34:26.740 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sir asr-003526 02:34:27.180 --> 02:34:27.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gusto niyo asr-003527 02:34:27.940 --> 02:34:28.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kunin ko yung asr-003528 02:34:28.660 --> 02:34:29.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: call logs asr-003529 02:34:29.500 --> 02:34:30.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at saka yung text asr-003530 02:34:30.480 --> 02:34:31.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: et cetera asr-003531 02:34:31.000 --> 02:34:32.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na humihingi ng meeting asr-003532 02:34:32.580 --> 02:34:33.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at sabi niyo asr-003533 02:34:33.200 --> 02:34:33.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi na kailangan asr-003534 02:34:33.860 --> 02:34:34.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng MOA asr-003535 02:34:34.340 --> 02:34:36.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino nag-decide asr-003536 02:34:36.200 --> 02:34:36.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na hindi na kailangan asr-003537 02:34:36.840 --> 02:34:37.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng MOA asr-003538 02:34:37.120 --> 02:34:38.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ikaw o yung board asr-003539 02:34:38.080 --> 02:34:39.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi po board asr-003540 02:34:39.620 --> 02:34:40.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ko po nasabihin asr-003541 02:34:40.380 --> 02:34:40.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kaya nga asr-003542 02:34:40.860 --> 02:34:42.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so isn't it your duty asr-003543 02:34:42.020 --> 02:34:43.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to submit it to the board asr-003544 02:34:43.320 --> 02:34:44.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: does the mayor asr-003545 02:34:44.340 --> 02:34:45.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have to call the secretary asr-003546 02:34:45.480 --> 02:34:46.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and talk to the board asr-003547 02:34:46.580 --> 02:34:47.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the proposed MOA asr-003548 02:34:47.640 --> 02:34:48.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: let me ask you asr-003549 02:34:48.600 --> 02:34:49.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this follow-up question asr-003550 02:34:49.520 --> 02:34:51.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: does Taguig asr-003551 02:34:51.060 --> 02:34:52.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have a ongoing asr-003552 02:34:52.160 --> 02:34:53.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: MOA with you asr-003553 02:34:53.180 --> 02:34:54.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in any area there asr-003554 02:34:54.680 --> 02:34:56.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ma'am asr-003555 02:34:56.900 --> 02:34:57.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pabayaan natin siya asr-003556 02:34:57.700 --> 02:34:58.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi asr-003557 02:34:58.160 --> 02:34:59.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ayaw niya ng MOA asr-003558 02:34:59.460 --> 02:35:00.320 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wala po akong alam asr-003559 02:35:00.320 --> 02:35:01.560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kasi hindi pa ako asr-003560 02:35:01.560 --> 02:35:02.740 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: nakapag-MOA sa Taguig asr-003561 02:35:02.740 --> 02:35:03.860 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sir meron po asr-003562 02:35:03.860 --> 02:35:04.900 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: during my time asr-003563 02:35:04.900 --> 02:35:05.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron po sir asr-003564 02:35:05.720 --> 02:35:06.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala po po asr-003565 02:35:06.400 --> 02:35:07.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: existing to asr-003566 02:35:07.080 --> 02:35:07.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fisheries asr-003567 02:35:07.920 --> 02:35:09.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: question sir asr-003568 02:35:09.660 --> 02:35:11.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 50 hectares asr-003569 02:35:11.900 --> 02:35:13.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Taytay Rizal asr-003570 02:35:13.120 --> 02:35:14.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ginagamit ng asr-003571 02:35:14.800 --> 02:35:15.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA asr-003572 02:35:15.660 --> 02:35:16.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: huwag natingnan si ma'am asr-003573 02:35:16.960 --> 02:35:18.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ginagamit ng asr-003574 02:35:18.160 --> 02:35:18.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA asr-003575 02:35:18.920 --> 02:35:20.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng MMDA asr-003576 02:35:20.080 --> 02:35:21.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at saka ng asr-003577 02:35:21.280 --> 02:35:22.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH asr-003578 02:35:22.060 --> 02:35:22.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dati asr-003579 02:35:22.680 --> 02:35:25.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kamusta po yun? asr-003580 02:35:26.900 --> 02:35:27.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't know that asr-003581 02:35:27.900 --> 02:35:29.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you don't know asr-003582 02:35:29.200 --> 02:35:30.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you don't know asr-003583 02:35:30.500 --> 02:35:31.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na may nang-aangkin doon asr-003584 02:35:31.820 --> 02:35:33.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so kinasuhan ng LLDA asr-003585 02:35:33.140 --> 02:35:36.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: after gamitin asr-003586 02:35:36.160 --> 02:35:37.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung tatlong agencies asr-003587 02:35:37.360 --> 02:35:39.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi sabi ni Senator Lacson asr-003588 02:35:39.000 --> 02:35:40.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may nangangamkam ng lupa asr-003589 02:35:40.320 --> 02:35:42.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't know asr-003590 02:35:42.080 --> 02:35:42.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Taytay asr-003591 02:35:42.740 --> 02:35:44.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano na ang status asr-003592 02:35:44.820 --> 02:35:45.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung kaso na yan? asr-003593 02:35:48.040 --> 02:35:48.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you don't know asr-003594 02:35:48.900 --> 02:35:49.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that's 50 hectares asr-003595 02:35:49.740 --> 02:35:50.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi ng ombudsman asr-003596 02:35:50.700 --> 02:35:52.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: imbistigahan nyo lahat asr-003597 02:35:52.060 --> 02:35:53.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng nangangamkam ng lupa asr-003598 02:35:53.300 --> 02:35:55.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit nyo hindi alam asr-003599 02:35:55.400 --> 02:35:55.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung sa Taytay? asr-003600 02:35:56.020 --> 02:35:56.880 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ang alam po sa Taytay asr-003601 02:35:56.900 --> 02:35:58.180 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: meron kaming inisyo asr-003602 02:35:58.180 --> 02:35:58.460 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ng asr-003603 02:35:58.460 --> 02:35:59.720 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: CDO asr-003604 02:35:59.720 --> 02:36:00.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so ma'am asr-003605 02:36:00.900 --> 02:36:02.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung may kaso doon asr-003606 02:36:02.020 --> 02:36:03.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: anong status asr-003607 02:36:03.500 --> 02:36:04.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung kaso? asr-003608 02:36:04.600 --> 02:36:04.780 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: sir asr-003609 02:36:04.780 --> 02:36:06.020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: doon po sa asr-003610 02:36:06.020 --> 02:36:07.480 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: nag-backfill po asr-003611 02:36:07.480 --> 02:36:08.420 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: illegal backfill asr-003612 02:36:08.420 --> 02:36:08.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: no no asr-003613 02:36:08.820 --> 02:36:09.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm talking about asr-003614 02:36:09.360 --> 02:36:10.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the 50 hectares asr-003615 02:36:10.260 --> 02:36:11.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nakasama MMDA asr-003616 02:36:11.920 --> 02:36:12.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA asr-003617 02:36:12.700 --> 02:36:13.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kinaso asr-003618 02:36:13.720 --> 02:36:14.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi nga may kumukuha asr-003619 02:36:14.980 --> 02:36:17.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: do I have to name asr-003620 02:36:17.760 --> 02:36:18.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the names? asr-003621 02:36:19.280 --> 02:36:19.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi nyo alam? asr-003622 02:36:19.880 --> 02:36:20.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: alam na siya asr-003623 02:36:20.320 --> 02:36:22.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: napabayaan na ba? asr-003624 02:36:23.160 --> 02:36:24.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: natalo ba yung kaso? asr-003625 02:36:24.220 --> 02:36:24.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what? asr-003626 02:36:25.000 --> 02:36:25.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: di ba ang main point asr-003627 02:36:25.820 --> 02:36:26.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ni Senator Lacson? asr-003628 02:36:26.640 --> 02:36:27.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which I support asr-003629 02:36:27.520 --> 02:36:28.540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: sir asr-003630 02:36:28.540 --> 02:36:29.560 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: kung may nangangamkam asr-003631 02:36:29.560 --> 02:36:30.660 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: ng lupa doon asr-003632 02:36:30.660 --> 02:36:31.460 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: sir asr-003633 02:36:31.460 --> 02:36:32.360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: on our part asr-003634 02:36:32.360 --> 02:36:34.000 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: we are not privy to the asr-003635 02:36:34.000 --> 02:36:35.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: paano kayong hindi privy? asr-003636 02:36:35.320 --> 02:36:36.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: eh tatlo kayong nandun asr-003637 02:36:36.420 --> 02:36:37.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa lupa na yun asr-003638 02:36:37.300 --> 02:36:38.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tapos isa-isa asr-003639 02:36:38.360 --> 02:36:39.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayong nawawala doon asr-003640 02:36:39.680 --> 02:36:40.300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I mean sir asr-003641 02:36:40.300 --> 02:36:41.680 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yung binibigay po asr-003642 02:36:41.680 --> 02:36:42.540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: na figures asr-003643 02:36:42.540 --> 02:36:44.120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: ni Senator asr-003644 02:36:44.120 --> 02:36:45.400 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: validation asr-003645 02:36:45.400 --> 02:36:45.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano? asr-003646 02:36:45.820 --> 02:36:47.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang binigay ni Senator Lacson asr-003647 02:36:47.560 --> 02:36:48.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tagig lang asr-003648 02:36:48.180 --> 02:36:49.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ako yung nagsasabi asr-003649 02:36:49.400 --> 02:36:50.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Taytay asr-003650 02:36:50.300 --> 02:36:51.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi alam ko yun eh asr-003651 02:36:51.300 --> 02:36:53.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so tinatanong ko kayo asr-003652 02:36:53.360 --> 02:36:54.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi nyo kasi asr-003653 02:36:54.320 --> 02:36:55.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi tagig lang asr-003654 02:36:55.020 --> 02:36:55.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinitignan nyo eh asr-003655 02:36:55.900 --> 02:36:56.400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yes sir asr-003656 02:36:56.400 --> 02:36:57.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano nangyari doon asr-003657 02:36:57.320 --> 02:36:58.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa lupa sa Taytay? asr-003658 02:37:00.840 --> 02:37:02.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo nag-file ng kaso asr-003659 02:37:02.240 --> 02:37:02.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA asr-003660 02:37:02.820 --> 02:37:03.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit nyo hindi alam? asr-003661 02:37:06.580 --> 02:37:08.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lipat tayo sa tagig ulit asr-003662 02:37:08.040 --> 02:37:09.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 17 asr-003663 02:37:09.080 --> 02:37:09.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano? asr-003664 02:37:10.220 --> 02:37:11.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 170 hectares asr-003665 02:37:11.620 --> 02:37:12.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang sinabi ni asr-003666 02:37:12.340 --> 02:37:13.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Lacson asr-003667 02:37:13.140 --> 02:37:15.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron bang gano'n? asr-003668 02:37:15.720 --> 02:37:16.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa pagtitingin nyo asr-003669 02:37:16.600 --> 02:37:17.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng mga titulo asr-003670 02:37:17.120 --> 02:37:18.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron bang gano'n? asr-003671 02:37:19.720 --> 02:37:20.180 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wala po asr-003672 02:37:20.180 --> 02:37:21.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may fake titles asr-003673 02:37:21.960 --> 02:37:22.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng gano'n asr-003674 02:37:22.920 --> 02:37:23.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: please use the mic sir asr-003675 02:37:23.920 --> 02:37:26.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: please use the right GM asr-003676 02:37:26.000 --> 02:37:26.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron bang gano'n? asr-003677 02:37:26.400 --> 02:37:26.780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wala asr-003678 02:37:26.780 --> 02:37:29.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may yan ako asr-003679 02:37:29.560 --> 02:37:30.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kay Senator Riza asr-003680 02:37:30.780 --> 02:37:31.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at kay Secretary asr-003681 02:37:31.840 --> 02:37:32.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at kay Senator Pia asr-003682 02:37:32.940 --> 02:37:33.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kaya asr-003683 02:37:33.680 --> 02:37:34.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: puputuling ko asr-003684 02:37:34.920 --> 02:37:35.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: after one more issue asr-003685 02:37:35.880 --> 02:37:37.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: jurisdiction lang set asr-003686 02:37:37.020 --> 02:37:38.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dahil importante lang to asr-003687 02:37:38.380 --> 02:37:38.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then I will asr-003688 02:37:38.920 --> 02:37:39.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I will ask asr-003689 02:37:39.800 --> 02:37:40.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: simply lang asr-003690 02:37:40.560 --> 02:37:42.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I will give you the benefit asr-003691 02:37:42.080 --> 02:37:42.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of the doubt asr-003692 02:37:42.620 --> 02:37:43.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: engineer asr-003693 02:37:43.160 --> 02:37:45.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na we want to move forward asr-003694 02:37:45.520 --> 02:37:46.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at hindi tayo asr-003695 02:37:46.160 --> 02:37:47.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bias or prejudice asr-003696 02:37:47.200 --> 02:37:48.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay asr-003697 02:37:48.040 --> 02:37:49.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: jurisdiction asr-003698 02:37:49.540 --> 02:37:51.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino may jurisdiction asr-003699 02:37:51.660 --> 02:37:52.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng reclamation asr-003700 02:37:52.940 --> 02:37:54.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Laguna Lake? asr-003701 02:37:56.400 --> 02:37:58.560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: LLDA po yan asr-003702 02:37:58.560 --> 02:38:01.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA sir asr-003703 02:38:01.600 --> 02:38:03.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinabi ng PRA asr-003704 02:38:03.860 --> 02:38:04.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sila may jurisdiction asr-003705 02:38:04.820 --> 02:38:06.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinabi ni Senator Lacson asr-003706 02:38:06.980 --> 02:38:08.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi PRA asr-003707 02:38:08.040 --> 02:38:09.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi LLDA asr-003708 02:38:09.140 --> 02:38:11.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nakita niya yung huli niyang interview asr-003709 02:38:11.640 --> 02:38:12.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi niya asr-003710 02:38:12.380 --> 02:38:13.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang may jurisdiction asr-003711 02:38:13.920 --> 02:38:16.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: environmental lang ang LLDA asr-003712 02:38:16.100 --> 02:38:18.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit pagkatagig ang binabanatan asr-003713 02:38:18.760 --> 02:38:20.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay lang sa inyo magpa-interview asr-003714 02:38:20.960 --> 02:38:23.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero pag kayo ang sinabihan asr-003715 02:38:23.200 --> 02:38:24.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na wala kayong jurisdiction asr-003716 02:38:24.240 --> 02:38:25.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi kayo makapagsalita asr-003717 02:38:25.400 --> 02:38:26.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na kayo makapagsalita asr-003718 02:38:26.000 --> 02:38:27.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na kayo may jurisdiction asr-003719 02:38:27.000 --> 02:38:28.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so ma'am asr-003720 02:38:28.960 --> 02:38:31.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: do you agree with the GM asr-003721 02:38:31.160 --> 02:38:32.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na kayo ang may jurisdiction? asr-003722 02:38:33.160 --> 02:38:33.580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir asr-003723 02:38:33.580 --> 02:38:34.500 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: we are firmly asr-003724 02:38:34.500 --> 02:38:35.120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: sir asr-003725 02:38:35.120 --> 02:38:36.300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the LLDA jurisdiction asr-003726 02:38:36.300 --> 02:38:37.220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: over all asr-003727 02:38:37.220 --> 02:38:39.160 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: developmental activities asr-003728 02:38:39.160 --> 02:38:39.980 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: in the region asr-003729 02:38:39.980 --> 02:38:40.660 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: okay asr-003730 02:38:40.660 --> 02:38:42.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm happy with that asr-003731 02:38:42.280 --> 02:38:43.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and I'm happy asr-003732 02:38:43.040 --> 02:38:44.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na maghigpit kayo asr-003733 02:38:44.540 --> 02:38:44.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so asr-003734 02:38:44.780 --> 02:38:45.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yusek asr-003735 02:38:45.500 --> 02:38:46.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama po ba asr-003736 02:38:46.400 --> 02:38:47.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na ang may jurisdiction asr-003737 02:38:47.400 --> 02:38:48.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA? asr-003738 02:38:48.140 --> 02:38:49.220 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: based on existing law asr-003739 02:38:49.220 --> 02:38:49.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay asr-003740 02:38:49.700 --> 02:38:51.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so etong tanong ko asr-003741 02:38:51.400 --> 02:38:52.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit pa kayo asr-003742 02:38:52.460 --> 02:38:53.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagtanong sa OGCC? asr-003743 02:38:54.920 --> 02:38:55.900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: actually sir asr-003744 02:38:55.900 --> 02:38:57.300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the OGCC requested asr-003745 02:38:57.300 --> 02:38:58.800 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: for our legal position asr-003746 02:38:58.800 --> 02:38:59.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi asr-003747 02:38:59.940 --> 02:39:00.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang sinabi ng asr-003748 02:39:00.940 --> 02:39:02.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: PRA asr-003749 02:39:02.520 --> 02:39:04.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at ang sinabi ng asr-003750 02:39:04.160 --> 02:39:07.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: TPWH asr-003751 02:39:07.440 --> 02:39:08.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at sa minutes asr-003752 02:39:08.220 --> 02:39:09.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng meeting nyo asr-003753 02:39:09.000 --> 02:39:09.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi nyo asr-003754 02:39:09.880 --> 02:39:11.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you submitted to OGCC asr-003755 02:39:11.460 --> 02:39:12.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ma'am are you a lawyer? asr-003756 02:39:13.080 --> 02:39:13.460 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir asr-003757 02:39:13.460 --> 02:39:13.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yes asr-003758 02:39:13.680 --> 02:39:14.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kumpanyera asr-003759 02:39:14.440 --> 02:39:16.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: between the asr-003760 02:39:16.440 --> 02:39:17.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DOJ opinion asr-003761 02:39:17.720 --> 02:39:19.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and an OGCC opinion asr-003762 02:39:19.460 --> 02:39:20.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which one will prevail? asr-003763 02:39:21.900 --> 02:39:23.120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I'm sure the DOJ asr-003764 02:39:23.120 --> 02:39:23.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the DOJ asr-003765 02:39:23.760 --> 02:39:25.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the OGCC asr-003766 02:39:25.240 --> 02:39:25.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is an attorney asr-003767 02:39:25.900 --> 02:39:26.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: agency asr-003768 02:39:26.560 --> 02:39:27.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: right asr-003769 02:39:27.400 --> 02:39:28.540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: and the asr-003770 02:39:28.540 --> 02:39:29.980 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: OGCC acts as a asr-003771 02:39:29.980 --> 02:39:31.020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: legal office asr-003772 02:39:31.020 --> 02:39:31.760 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: of DOJ asr-003773 02:39:31.760 --> 02:39:33.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's a legal office asr-003774 02:39:33.380 --> 02:39:34.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of the OG asr-003775 02:39:34.020 --> 02:39:35.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of the government asr-003776 02:39:35.000 --> 02:39:35.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: corporation asr-003777 02:39:35.600 --> 02:39:37.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but it is asr-003778 02:39:37.060 --> 02:39:37.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: under the DOJ asr-003779 02:39:37.980 --> 02:39:38.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the asr-003780 02:39:38.900 --> 02:39:40.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: secretary of the DOJ asr-003781 02:39:40.520 --> 02:39:42.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: acts as the asr-003782 02:39:42.200 --> 02:39:42.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: attorney general asr-003783 02:39:42.980 --> 02:39:44.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in cases like this asr-003784 02:39:44.040 --> 02:39:45.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and his opinion asr-003785 02:39:45.160 --> 02:39:45.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: prevails asr-003786 02:39:45.720 --> 02:39:46.340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir asr-003787 02:39:46.340 --> 02:39:47.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and you have a asr-003788 02:39:47.040 --> 02:39:47.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1995 asr-003789 02:39:47.560 --> 02:39:49.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: opinion asr-003790 02:39:49.020 --> 02:39:50.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: by the DOJ asr-003791 02:39:50.220 --> 02:39:51.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: stating that asr-003792 02:39:51.760 --> 02:39:53.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang may jurisdiction asr-003793 02:39:53.340 --> 02:39:54.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ay LLDA asr-003794 02:39:54.460 --> 02:39:54.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: correct? asr-003795 02:39:54.780 --> 02:39:55.220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir asr-003796 02:39:55.220 --> 02:39:55.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: correct? asr-003797 02:39:55.900 --> 02:39:56.360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir asr-003798 02:39:56.360 --> 02:39:56.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay asr-003799 02:39:56.640 --> 02:39:57.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you have a board asr-003800 02:39:57.900 --> 02:39:58.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: resolution asr-003801 02:39:58.460 --> 02:39:59.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: from the LLDA asr-003802 02:39:59.920 --> 02:40:00.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: saying that you have asr-003803 02:40:00.760 --> 02:40:02.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: exclusive jurisdiction asr-003804 02:40:02.040 --> 02:40:03.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: not just jurisdiction asr-003805 02:40:03.500 --> 02:40:04.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: exclusive jurisdiction asr-003806 02:40:04.720 --> 02:40:05.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: correct? asr-003807 02:40:05.420 --> 02:40:05.900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir asr-003808 02:40:05.900 --> 02:40:06.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: oh asr-003809 02:40:06.240 --> 02:40:07.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm sure asr-003810 02:40:07.980 --> 02:40:09.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit nyo pinapayagan asr-003811 02:40:09.040 --> 02:40:09.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng PRA asr-003812 02:40:09.580 --> 02:40:10.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: makialam sa Laguna Lake asr-003813 02:40:10.820 --> 02:40:12.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm sure asr-003814 02:40:12.360 --> 02:40:14.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: oh bakit asr-003815 02:40:14.780 --> 02:40:15.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagdating asr-003816 02:40:15.220 --> 02:40:15.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kaharap nyo asr-003817 02:40:15.880 --> 02:40:16.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang ano eh asr-003818 02:40:16.360 --> 02:40:17.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: USEC ng DPWH asr-003819 02:40:17.900 --> 02:40:19.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang problema asr-003820 02:40:19.120 --> 02:40:20.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kay SECVIMS asr-003821 02:40:20.060 --> 02:40:21.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagharap ng camera asr-003822 02:40:21.320 --> 02:40:21.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: akala mo asr-003823 02:40:21.960 --> 02:40:22.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano eh asr-003824 02:40:22.600 --> 02:40:23.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang tibay ng asr-003825 02:40:23.820 --> 02:40:24.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPD asr-003826 02:40:24.140 --> 02:40:25.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: turo ng turo asr-003827 02:40:25.280 --> 02:40:26.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mura ng mura asr-003828 02:40:26.440 --> 02:40:28.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero behind the camera asr-003829 02:40:28.120 --> 02:40:29.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: takot na takot asr-003830 02:40:29.160 --> 02:40:31.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ayaw magsabi ng totoo asr-003831 02:40:31.180 --> 02:40:31.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano sabi nung asr-003832 02:40:31.740 --> 02:40:32.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: USEC niya asr-003833 02:40:32.820 --> 02:40:33.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung kasama kayo asr-003834 02:40:33.600 --> 02:40:35.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ma'am baka we can asr-003835 02:40:35.240 --> 02:40:37.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: be more conservative asr-003836 02:40:37.020 --> 02:40:38.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tigil muna natin asr-003837 02:40:38.580 --> 02:40:39.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: habang ang asr-003838 02:40:39.340 --> 02:40:41.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ikaw ang kasama ma'am asr-003839 02:40:41.160 --> 02:40:42.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may kasama siyang asr-003840 02:40:42.200 --> 02:40:43.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: iba na abogado asr-003841 02:40:43.400 --> 02:40:44.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: GM diba asr-003842 02:40:44.060 --> 02:40:45.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have the minutes asr-003843 02:40:45.400 --> 02:40:46.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have the tape asr-003844 02:40:46.540 --> 02:40:48.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang sabi po niya asr-003845 02:40:48.420 --> 02:40:48.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba asr-003846 02:40:48.740 --> 02:40:49.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: GM asr-003847 02:40:49.360 --> 02:40:50.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang sabi nila asr-003848 02:40:50.100 --> 02:40:52.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka magandang asr-003849 02:40:52.620 --> 02:40:53.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mas conservative asr-003850 02:40:53.400 --> 02:40:55.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: habang pinag-uusapan pa asr-003851 02:40:55.180 --> 02:40:55.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung jurisdiction asr-003852 02:40:55.860 --> 02:40:57.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tigil muna natin asr-003853 02:40:57.180 --> 02:40:57.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung project asr-003854 02:40:57.740 --> 02:40:59.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama ba GM asr-003855 02:40:59.240 --> 02:40:59.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in asr-003856 02:40:59.500 --> 02:41:00.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in asr-003857 02:41:00.200 --> 02:41:01.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: actually asr-003858 02:41:01.200 --> 02:41:02.220 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: pinahinto nga raw sila asr-003859 02:41:02.220 --> 02:41:03.160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: minto naman sila asr-003860 02:41:03.160 --> 02:41:04.220 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: pinahinto sila ng PRA asr-003861 02:41:04.220 --> 02:41:05.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I agree with you sir asr-003862 02:41:05.500 --> 02:41:07.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung kayo magpahinto asr-003863 02:41:07.200 --> 02:41:08.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dapat kami sumunod asr-003864 02:41:08.420 --> 02:41:09.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dapat sumunod asr-003865 02:41:09.160 --> 02:41:09.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang gobyerno asr-003866 02:41:09.720 --> 02:41:11.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo may jurisdiction eh asr-003867 02:41:11.080 --> 02:41:12.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba asr-003868 02:41:12.160 --> 02:41:13.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo may jurisdiction asr-003869 02:41:13.680 --> 02:41:15.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit nyo hindi asr-003870 02:41:15.040 --> 02:41:15.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinaglalaban asr-003871 02:41:15.680 --> 02:41:16.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang jurisdiction nyo asr-003872 02:41:16.660 --> 02:41:18.260 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi naman po asr-003873 02:41:18.260 --> 02:41:19.540 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kaya nga po asr-003874 02:41:19.540 --> 02:41:20.180 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yung nahabon namin asr-003875 02:41:20.180 --> 02:41:20.760 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: sir asr-003876 02:41:20.760 --> 02:41:23.060 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: if I may go back asr-003877 02:41:23.060 --> 02:41:23.980 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: to your previous asr-003878 02:41:23.980 --> 02:41:25.100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: it is the PR asr-003879 02:41:25.180 --> 02:41:26.340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: that sought the asr-003880 02:41:26.340 --> 02:41:27.520 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: OGCC opinion asr-003881 02:41:27.520 --> 02:41:29.120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: and while they are asr-003882 02:41:29.120 --> 02:41:30.620 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: evaluating that asr-003883 02:41:30.620 --> 02:41:31.540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: request asr-003884 02:41:31.540 --> 02:41:32.200 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: we are asr-003885 02:41:32.200 --> 02:41:33.220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: asked by the asr-003886 02:41:33.220 --> 02:41:34.280 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: OGCC to provide asr-003887 02:41:34.280 --> 02:41:35.200 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: our legal position asr-003888 02:41:35.200 --> 02:41:36.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and nilagay nyo sa legal asr-003889 02:41:36.380 --> 02:41:36.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: position nyo asr-003890 02:41:36.940 --> 02:41:38.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there's already a DOJ opinion asr-003891 02:41:38.620 --> 02:41:39.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi asr-003892 02:41:39.540 --> 02:41:41.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagdating ng OGCC dito asr-003893 02:41:41.620 --> 02:41:42.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tuturuan ko sila ng leksyon asr-003894 02:41:42.860 --> 02:41:43.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka hindi sila asr-003895 02:41:43.480 --> 02:41:44.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nag law school asr-003896 02:41:44.080 --> 02:41:46.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: paano ka naman magkakaroon asr-003897 02:41:46.720 --> 02:41:47.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng OGCC opinion asr-003898 02:41:47.780 --> 02:41:49.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: e meron ng DOJ opinion asr-003899 02:41:49.200 --> 02:41:50.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they're wasting asr-003900 02:41:50.740 --> 02:41:51.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: government money asr-003901 02:41:51.840 --> 02:41:53.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we're wasting time asr-003902 02:41:53.440 --> 02:41:54.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sir asr-003903 02:41:54.340 --> 02:41:55.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: eto list nyo asr-003904 02:41:55.660 --> 02:41:56.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Laguna Lake asr-003905 02:41:56.500 --> 02:41:58.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for reclamation asr-003906 02:41:58.080 --> 02:41:59.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron ba nakalagay dito asr-003907 02:41:59.800 --> 02:42:01.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na kailangan ng PRA permit? asr-003908 02:42:03.060 --> 02:42:03.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala asr-003909 02:42:03.320 --> 02:42:05.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi you do not recognize them asr-003910 02:42:05.440 --> 02:42:07.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: eto yung sa PRA asr-003911 02:42:07.040 --> 02:42:09.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we have exactly the same asr-003912 02:42:09.480 --> 02:42:09.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa PRA asr-003913 02:42:09.900 --> 02:42:10.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala naman nakalagay doon asr-003914 02:42:10.940 --> 02:42:11.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na LLDA asr-003915 02:42:11.600 --> 02:42:12.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay asr-003916 02:42:12.720 --> 02:42:14.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: babalik ngayon tayo asr-003917 02:42:14.220 --> 02:42:15.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa LLRN asr-003918 02:42:15.200 --> 02:42:17.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano ang kaibahan asr-003919 02:42:17.220 --> 02:42:17.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng charter asr-003920 02:42:17.780 --> 02:42:19.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng PRA at LLRN asr-003921 02:42:19.660 --> 02:42:21.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sorry asr-003922 02:42:21.760 --> 02:42:23.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: PRA at LLDA asr-003923 02:42:23.340 --> 02:42:24.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: anong pagkakapagalagay? asr-003924 02:42:24.340 --> 02:42:24.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo ba? asr-003925 02:42:25.620 --> 02:42:27.300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: sir the LLDA charter asr-003926 02:42:27.300 --> 02:42:28.180 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: speaks of asr-003927 02:42:28.180 --> 02:42:30.080 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: all development activities asr-003928 02:42:30.080 --> 02:42:31.280 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: which reclamation asr-003929 02:42:31.280 --> 02:42:32.400 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: is only part of it asr-003930 02:42:32.400 --> 02:42:32.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sorry ma'am asr-003931 02:42:32.740 --> 02:42:33.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: my fault asr-003932 02:42:33.180 --> 02:42:34.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what's the difference asr-003933 02:42:34.240 --> 02:42:35.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when it comes to reclamation? asr-003934 02:42:37.240 --> 02:42:37.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sir asr-003935 02:42:37.800 --> 02:42:39.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: correct me if I'm wrong asr-003936 02:42:39.340 --> 02:42:40.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa PRA asr-003937 02:42:40.120 --> 02:42:41.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung proponent may are asr-003938 02:42:41.840 --> 02:42:42.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may share lang asr-003939 02:42:42.500 --> 02:42:43.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang gobyerno asr-003940 02:42:43.580 --> 02:42:44.240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir asr-003941 02:42:44.240 --> 02:42:45.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa LLDA asr-003942 02:42:45.620 --> 02:42:47.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagka nag reclaim ka asr-003943 02:42:47.480 --> 02:42:48.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa LLDA yung dupa asr-003944 02:42:48.500 --> 02:42:50.300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the charter of the LLDA asr-003945 02:42:50.300 --> 02:42:50.840 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: is clear asr-003946 02:42:50.840 --> 02:42:52.420 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: that all reclaimed land asr-003947 02:42:52.420 --> 02:42:52.860 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: shall be asr-003948 02:42:52.860 --> 02:42:53.640 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: property of LLDA asr-003949 02:42:53.640 --> 02:42:54.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so patapusin niya asr-003950 02:42:54.340 --> 02:42:55.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung LLRN asr-003951 02:42:55.480 --> 02:42:57.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi yung mga loko asr-003952 02:42:57.280 --> 02:42:58.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dyan sa DPWH asr-003953 02:42:58.720 --> 02:43:00.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: iflip-flip yan asr-003954 02:43:00.140 --> 02:43:02.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang gagawin nila asr-003955 02:43:02.220 --> 02:43:03.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa LLRN asr-003956 02:43:03.160 --> 02:43:04.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pera ng gobyerno asr-003957 02:43:04.800 --> 02:43:06.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa murang interest asr-003958 02:43:06.300 --> 02:43:07.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa kuryano asr-003959 02:43:07.420 --> 02:43:08.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at saka sa asr-003960 02:43:08.300 --> 02:43:09.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Asian Development Bank asr-003961 02:43:09.800 --> 02:43:10.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tapos iflip-flip asr-003962 02:43:10.800 --> 02:43:11.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa private asr-003963 02:43:11.400 --> 02:43:13.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ikakabit sa mga highway asr-003964 02:43:13.680 --> 02:43:15.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gagawin paid highway asr-003965 02:43:15.200 --> 02:43:16.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yan hindi libre asr-003966 02:43:16.000 --> 02:43:17.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so okay sa inyo asr-003967 02:43:17.320 --> 02:43:17.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit asr-003968 02:43:17.780 --> 02:43:19.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa inyo na yung lupa asr-003969 02:43:19.300 --> 02:43:20.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa inyo ang pera asr-003970 02:43:20.260 --> 02:43:20.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi sa kanila asr-003971 02:43:20.940 --> 02:43:22.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yun ang kaibahan asr-003972 02:43:22.780 --> 02:43:24.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but you have to treat it asr-003973 02:43:24.120 --> 02:43:24.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: as a reclamation asr-003974 02:43:24.800 --> 02:43:26.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because that is asr-003975 02:43:26.260 --> 02:43:27.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what is in the ano eh asr-003976 02:43:27.180 --> 02:43:27.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba asr-003977 02:43:27.940 --> 02:43:29.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so gusto ni SecBins asr-003978 02:43:29.280 --> 02:43:31.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na ang interpretation niya asr-003979 02:43:31.400 --> 02:43:33.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is it is a reclamation asr-003980 02:43:33.100 --> 02:43:34.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then so be it asr-003981 02:43:34.040 --> 02:43:35.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he cannot have it asr-003982 02:43:35.740 --> 02:43:36.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: both ways asr-003983 02:43:36.420 --> 02:43:37.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba asr-003984 02:43:37.900 --> 02:43:39.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so that's my point asr-003985 02:43:39.880 --> 02:43:40.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. Secretary asr-003986 02:43:40.480 --> 02:43:41.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala akong problema asr-003987 02:43:41.620 --> 02:43:42.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung tabing ilog asr-003988 02:43:42.700 --> 02:43:44.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng tagig asr-003989 02:43:44.720 --> 02:43:46.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pag sinabi doon asr-003990 02:43:46.460 --> 02:43:47.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: flood control yun asr-003991 02:43:47.700 --> 02:43:48.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi kailangan asr-003992 02:43:48.420 --> 02:43:49.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na reclamation permit asr-003993 02:43:49.520 --> 02:43:50.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ganoon din yung asr-003994 02:43:50.500 --> 02:43:51.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLRN highway asr-003995 02:43:51.540 --> 02:43:52.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ganoon din yung asr-003996 02:43:52.900 --> 02:43:53.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Anguno asr-003997 02:43:53.420 --> 02:43:54.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ganoon din yung asr-003998 02:43:54.440 --> 02:43:56.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Muntinlupa asr-003999 02:43:56.060 --> 02:43:57.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ngayon kung sinabi niyong asr-004000 02:43:57.200 --> 02:43:58.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kailangan ng permit asr-004001 02:43:58.160 --> 02:43:59.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dahil lahat kailangan ng permit asr-004002 02:43:59.660 --> 02:44:01.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: just treat everything equally asr-004003 02:44:01.600 --> 02:44:02.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but eto po tanong po asr-004004 02:44:02.840 --> 02:44:04.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if that construction asr-004005 02:44:04.600 --> 02:44:05.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: has been going on asr-004006 02:44:05.400 --> 02:44:06.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the last 20 years asr-004007 02:44:06.660 --> 02:44:09.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ire-retroact nyo asr-004008 02:44:09.240 --> 02:44:11.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or you will asr-004009 02:44:11.700 --> 02:44:12.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you will provide asr-004010 02:44:12.740 --> 02:44:13.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a path forward asr-004011 02:44:13.560 --> 02:44:14.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so meaning sir asr-004012 02:44:14.780 --> 02:44:16.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at the first instance asr-004013 02:44:16.900 --> 02:44:17.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that you sent a letter asr-004014 02:44:17.880 --> 02:44:19.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and said dapat may permit yan asr-004015 02:44:19.100 --> 02:44:19.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama kayo asr-004016 02:44:19.740 --> 02:44:21.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dapat lahat kumuha ng permit asr-004017 02:44:21.580 --> 02:44:22.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang DPWH asr-004018 02:44:22.320 --> 02:44:23.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi rin kumuha ng permit asr-004019 02:44:23.280 --> 02:44:24.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa local government asr-004020 02:44:24.100 --> 02:44:27.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but before nyo asr-004021 02:44:27.660 --> 02:44:28.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in-inform asr-004022 02:44:28.540 --> 02:44:30.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na sir dapat may permit kayo asr-004023 02:44:30.800 --> 02:44:32.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ginagawa na lahat yun asr-004024 02:44:32.120 --> 02:44:33.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fair ba yun asr-004025 02:44:33.240 --> 02:44:35.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na ipapatigil asr-004026 02:44:35.020 --> 02:44:35.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at sisirain yung asr-004027 02:44:35.860 --> 02:44:37.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at magkakaproblema tayo asr-004028 02:44:37.860 --> 02:44:41.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sir ikaw asr-004029 02:44:41.440 --> 02:44:42.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fair ba yun asr-004030 02:44:42.140 --> 02:44:45.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi sa anti-grap law asr-004031 02:44:45.640 --> 02:44:47.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagka may prejudice asr-004032 02:44:47.580 --> 02:44:48.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa public asr-004033 02:44:48.180 --> 02:44:51.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: problema yun asr-004034 02:44:51.020 --> 02:44:52.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano dyan asr-004035 02:44:52.520 --> 02:44:53.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: no asr-004036 02:44:53.280 --> 02:44:54.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what I'm saying sir asr-004037 02:44:54.140 --> 02:44:54.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: para malinaw asr-004038 02:44:54.880 --> 02:44:56.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: forever asr-004039 02:44:56.740 --> 02:44:58.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi kayo humingi ng permit asr-004040 02:44:58.220 --> 02:44:59.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ginawa yung manggahan asr-004041 02:45:00.000 --> 02:45:02.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: floodway, hindi kayo humingi ng permit. asr-004042 02:45:03.040 --> 02:45:04.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ginawa yung west of Pagkaan asr-004043 02:45:04.460 --> 02:45:06.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: floodway, hindi kayo gumawa ng permit. asr-004044 02:45:06.640 --> 02:45:08.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung dalawang lane, ginawang four lane, asr-004045 02:45:08.420 --> 02:45:09.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi kayo humingi ng permit. asr-004046 02:45:10.220 --> 02:45:12.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ginawa yung linear park, hindi asr-004047 02:45:12.360 --> 02:45:14.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nyo hininga ng permit. Ginawa sa Muntinlupa, asr-004048 02:45:14.440 --> 02:45:16.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi kayo humingi ng permit. Ginawa yung asr-004049 02:45:16.320 --> 02:45:18.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: missing lane, hindi kayo humingi ng permit. asr-004050 02:45:19.040 --> 02:45:20.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O tapos nasabihin nyo, sandali lang, asr-004051 02:45:20.920 --> 02:45:21.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit wala kayong permit? asr-004052 02:45:22.760 --> 02:45:24.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabihin nyo, mag-comply kayo. asr-004053 02:45:24.740 --> 02:45:26.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero yung bigla nyo silang kakasuhan, asr-004054 02:45:27.600 --> 02:45:29.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bigla nyo kakasuhan asr-004055 02:45:29.120 --> 02:45:30.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dahil wala mga permit na noong time asr-004056 02:45:30.620 --> 02:45:32.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na yun, hindi nyo nare-require. Kasi noong asr-004057 02:45:32.660 --> 02:45:34.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: time na yun, nandito sa minutes asr-004058 02:45:34.740 --> 02:45:36.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nyo, Mr. Sagatari, noong time asr-004059 02:45:36.600 --> 02:45:38.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na yun, they consider pag public works, asr-004060 02:45:38.720 --> 02:45:39.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's not reclamation. asr-004061 02:45:41.320 --> 02:45:42.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pag flood control, asr-004062 02:45:42.700 --> 02:45:44.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: road, park, they do not asr-004063 02:45:44.600 --> 02:45:45.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: consider it a reclamation. asr-004064 02:45:46.580 --> 02:45:48.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's why you didn't ask for that. Pero tama asr-004065 02:45:48.420 --> 02:45:49.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo, I agree with you. asr-004066 02:45:50.460 --> 02:45:52.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Malinaw na malinaw yung 2006 asr-004067 02:45:52.760 --> 02:45:54.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nyo. Basta't maglagay asr-004068 02:45:54.560 --> 02:45:56.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng an inch of lupa dyan, it's either asr-004069 02:45:56.480 --> 02:45:58.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: development or reclamation, kahit private asr-004070 02:45:58.560 --> 02:46:00.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or public. They still have to comply. asr-004071 02:46:00.600 --> 02:46:01.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I agree with you. asr-004072 02:46:02.420 --> 02:46:04.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I'm talking about, hindi kayo pwede asr-004073 02:46:04.400 --> 02:46:06.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: biglang pumasok, tapos asr-004074 02:46:06.120 --> 02:46:08.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung sino nag, sabihin nyo, pinakamaganda. asr-004075 02:46:09.160 --> 02:46:10.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero sa media, parang pinakasira asr-004076 02:46:10.600 --> 02:46:11.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ulo ang tagig. asr-004077 02:46:15.420 --> 02:46:16.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You don't have to have asr-004078 02:46:16.600 --> 02:46:17.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: intent, it's there. asr-004079 02:46:18.800 --> 02:46:20.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's there, Mr. GM. asr-004080 02:46:20.840 --> 02:46:22.600 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yeah, I have to entertain media because asr-004081 02:46:22.600 --> 02:46:26.540 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: action po namin yun, asr-004082 02:46:26.580 --> 02:46:27.280 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: na kailangan namin. asr-004083 02:46:27.440 --> 02:46:28.040 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yes. asr-004084 02:46:28.560 --> 02:46:30.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And you didn't, no problem, sir, asr-004085 02:46:30.760 --> 02:46:31.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but you didn't tell them. asr-004086 02:46:32.720 --> 02:46:34.720 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yes, sir, but you didn't tell them asr-004087 02:46:34.720 --> 02:46:36.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that before your time, asr-004088 02:46:36.880 --> 02:46:38.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they would never require the permit. asr-004089 02:46:39.020 --> 02:46:40.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You just told them, walang permit yan. asr-004090 02:46:42.100 --> 02:46:42.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You never told them. asr-004091 02:46:42.800 --> 02:46:43.880 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: In our meeting, asr-004092 02:46:44.120 --> 02:46:47.640 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sinabi ko po sa public asr-004093 02:46:47.640 --> 02:46:49.000 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: course, nandun ako kay Mayor. asr-004094 02:46:49.940 --> 02:46:51.160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Kay Mayor, hindi sabihin yan. asr-004095 02:46:52.040 --> 02:46:53.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, ang taganda ng statement mo asr-004096 02:46:53.720 --> 02:46:54.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pag in private eh. asr-004097 02:46:55.400 --> 02:46:57.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ko na nga sasabihin dito yung mga binulong mo eh. asr-004098 02:46:57.960 --> 02:46:58.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Takala po. asr-004099 02:46:58.560 --> 02:47:00.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang problema, yung sa asr-004100 02:47:00.480 --> 02:47:02.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: media, kasi we're asr-004101 02:47:02.500 --> 02:47:04.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: public servants, ang tagig may reputation. asr-004102 02:47:05.080 --> 02:47:06.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tagig cannot speak for itself. asr-004103 02:47:06.500 --> 02:47:07.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Never mind my reputation. asr-004104 02:47:07.680 --> 02:47:08.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala po akong asr-004105 02:47:08.640 --> 02:47:11.780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kinabing against tagig. asr-004106 02:47:11.920 --> 02:47:14.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, pag may sinabi ako sa LLDA na mali, asr-004107 02:47:15.040 --> 02:47:16.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: aren't you obliged to speak for asr-004108 02:47:16.500 --> 02:47:17.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA? asr-004109 02:47:18.380 --> 02:47:19.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya, basta po alam ko. asr-004110 02:47:20.140 --> 02:47:20.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Basta po alam ko. asr-004111 02:47:21.560 --> 02:47:24.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, speak for our city asr-004112 02:47:24.340 --> 02:47:26.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: after we were slandered and asr-004113 02:47:26.200 --> 02:47:28.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: maligned and pinalabas na asr-004114 02:47:28.560 --> 02:47:30.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kalukuhan lahat. Diba? asr-004115 02:47:30.540 --> 02:47:32.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung hindi pa nag-budget hearing, hindi pa asr-004116 02:47:32.140 --> 02:47:33.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: magtatapat ng ganito eh. asr-004117 02:47:34.280 --> 02:47:36.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nag-reach out ka today dahil pinatawag ka asr-004118 02:47:36.440 --> 02:47:38.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: namin. Pero everyday, I'm waiting asr-004119 02:47:38.580 --> 02:47:40.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you for reach out. Hindi kayo nag-re-reach out. asr-004120 02:47:42.680 --> 02:47:43.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Go ahead, ma'am. asr-004121 02:47:44.400 --> 02:47:46.540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, when we, when this asr-004122 02:47:46.540 --> 02:47:50.260 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: issue on tagig was exposed asr-004123 02:47:50.260 --> 02:47:52.540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: in a budget hearing by asr-004124 02:47:52.540 --> 02:47:54.600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yusef, si Peter asr-004125 02:47:54.600 --> 02:47:56.140 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Bidger, we asr-004126 02:47:56.140 --> 02:47:58.260 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: already conducted an asr-004127 02:47:58.260 --> 02:48:00.240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: inspection and we saw asr-004128 02:48:00.240 --> 02:48:01.300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the development in the... asr-004129 02:48:01.300 --> 02:48:04.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Do you want me to show you my text with Sec. Lutilia and Sec. Vins? asr-004130 02:48:04.680 --> 02:48:06.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang sabi nila, sila na mag-uusap asr-004131 02:48:06.940 --> 02:48:08.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi project ng DP yun asr-004132 02:48:08.960 --> 02:48:10.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at DP ang dapat kumuha ng permit. asr-004133 02:48:10.700 --> 02:48:11.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Walang kilalaman ng tagig. asr-004134 02:48:13.520 --> 02:48:14.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dalawang departamento asr-004135 02:48:14.780 --> 02:48:16.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayong nagbabanggaan asr-004136 02:48:16.160 --> 02:48:18.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero sa media, ang pinapalabas nyo may problema asr-004137 02:48:18.920 --> 02:48:20.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang city. asr-004138 02:48:21.360 --> 02:48:21.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? asr-004139 02:48:22.600 --> 02:48:24.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano sabi ni Sec. Vins? asr-004140 02:48:24.380 --> 02:48:26.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Siya nakakausap kay Sec. Lutilia. Sabi ni Sec. Lutilia, asr-004141 02:48:26.940 --> 02:48:31.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano sabi nila? Sila nakakausap sa inyo sa LLDA. asr-004152 02:48:32.560 --> 02:48:34.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ma'am, under the law, asr-004153 02:48:34.760 --> 02:48:35.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino dapat kumuha ng permit? asr-004154 02:48:36.120 --> 02:48:36.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba yung proponent? asr-004155 02:48:38.300 --> 02:48:39.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 99.9% asr-004156 02:48:39.940 --> 02:48:40.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung projects doon, asr-004157 02:48:40.860 --> 02:48:41.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino ang proponent? asr-004158 02:48:42.100 --> 02:48:42.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Answer my question. asr-004159 02:48:43.720 --> 02:48:44.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH. asr-004160 02:48:44.580 --> 02:48:45.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa manual ng DPWH, asr-004161 02:48:45.980 --> 02:48:47.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino dapat kumuha ng permit? asr-004162 02:48:48.500 --> 02:48:49.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sila. asr-004163 02:48:49.740 --> 02:48:51.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sinong hindi kumuha ng permit? asr-004164 02:48:52.040 --> 02:48:52.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH. asr-004165 02:48:53.100 --> 02:48:54.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong kasalanan ng tagig? asr-004166 02:48:55.640 --> 02:48:56.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Magpatakbo ng park. asr-004167 02:48:57.300 --> 02:48:58.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pumayag na dalawang asr-004168 02:48:58.200 --> 02:48:58.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: milyon tao asr-004169 02:48:58.820 --> 02:48:59.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tuwing Christmas, asr-004170 02:49:00.020 --> 02:49:01.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: magkaroon ng kaligayahan. asr-004171 02:49:01.420 --> 02:49:02.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yun ang kasalanan ng tagig. asr-004172 02:49:03.000 --> 02:49:03.960 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, based on the asr-004173 02:49:03.960 --> 02:49:06.020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: LLDA charter, asr-004174 02:49:06.180 --> 02:49:07.120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: at the very least, asr-004175 02:49:07.600 --> 02:49:09.040 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: all development projects asr-004176 02:49:09.040 --> 02:49:10.720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: proposed by the government, asr-004177 02:49:11.320 --> 02:49:12.080 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: LGUs, asr-004178 02:49:12.260 --> 02:49:13.280 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: private enterprises, asr-004179 02:49:13.800 --> 02:49:14.240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: should have been asr-004180 02:49:14.240 --> 02:49:15.060 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: uncoordinated. asr-004181 02:49:15.260 --> 02:49:15.580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Agree. asr-004182 02:49:15.580 --> 02:49:17.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At whose project is that? asr-004183 02:49:18.700 --> 02:49:19.220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: DPWH. asr-004184 02:49:19.860 --> 02:49:20.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm sorry. asr-004185 02:49:20.280 --> 02:49:22.080 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I'm referring to asr-004186 02:49:22.080 --> 02:49:23.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the previous projects. asr-004187 02:49:23.380 --> 02:49:23.580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes. asr-004188 02:49:23.940 --> 02:49:24.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: People's Park. asr-004189 02:49:25.080 --> 02:49:26.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, sorry. asr-004190 02:49:27.520 --> 02:49:27.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Those, asr-004191 02:49:27.800 --> 02:49:28.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we run it. asr-004192 02:49:28.800 --> 02:49:29.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The city runs it. asr-004193 02:49:29.980 --> 02:49:30.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir. asr-004194 02:49:30.480 --> 02:49:30.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's the, asr-004195 02:49:30.820 --> 02:49:31.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's the, asr-004196 02:49:31.340 --> 02:49:33.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the DPWH built it. asr-004197 02:49:35.160 --> 02:49:36.020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I mean, sir, asr-004198 02:49:36.140 --> 02:49:37.840 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: all LGUs, asr-004199 02:49:38.280 --> 02:49:38.800 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yung pumapropose asr-004200 02:49:39.400 --> 02:49:40.100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: projects nila, asr-004201 02:49:40.220 --> 02:49:40.640 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: should be asr-004202 02:49:40.640 --> 02:49:40.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Agree, ma'am. asr-004203 02:49:40.660 --> 02:49:41.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala tayong disagreement doon. asr-004204 02:49:42.720 --> 02:49:42.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi, asr-004205 02:49:43.080 --> 02:49:44.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: binabalik mo eh. asr-004206 02:49:44.680 --> 02:49:45.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sinasabi mo, asr-004207 02:49:45.400 --> 02:49:46.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: walang nag-slander sa tagig. asr-004208 02:49:47.520 --> 02:49:48.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't mind asr-004209 02:49:48.220 --> 02:49:48.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Lacson. asr-004210 02:49:49.020 --> 02:49:49.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's his privilege. asr-004211 02:49:50.240 --> 02:49:51.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's what he thinks. asr-004212 02:49:52.140 --> 02:49:52.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He, asr-004213 02:49:52.620 --> 02:49:53.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Lacson asr-004214 02:49:53.260 --> 02:49:54.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is not covered asr-004215 02:49:54.100 --> 02:49:55.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: by the law asr-004216 02:49:55.120 --> 02:49:55.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that he has to be asr-004217 02:49:55.840 --> 02:49:56.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: politically neutral. asr-004218 02:49:56.740 --> 02:49:57.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, asr-004219 02:49:57.800 --> 02:49:59.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but the PRA, asr-004220 02:49:59.480 --> 02:50:00.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the DNR, asr-004221 02:50:01.000 --> 02:50:02.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: all of you are covered. asr-004222 02:50:04.500 --> 02:50:05.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're covered. asr-004223 02:50:06.680 --> 02:50:08.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May I ask one question asr-004224 02:50:08.240 --> 02:50:09.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kay Director Matias? asr-004225 02:50:10.160 --> 02:50:10.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Director, asr-004226 02:50:10.700 --> 02:50:12.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: did you order the asr-004227 02:50:12.060 --> 02:50:12.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: NCR asr-004228 02:50:12.620 --> 02:50:13.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to do a asr-004229 02:50:13.620 --> 02:50:14.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: inspection asr-004230 02:50:14.680 --> 02:50:15.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng asr-004231 02:50:15.480 --> 02:50:16.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: environment asr-004232 02:50:16.860 --> 02:50:17.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Metro Manila? asr-004233 02:50:19.140 --> 02:50:19.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Director Matias. asr-004234 02:50:20.060 --> 02:50:20.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Or, asr-004235 02:50:20.460 --> 02:50:20.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano yun? asr-004236 02:50:23.520 --> 02:50:24.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano na yun? asr-004237 02:50:24.560 --> 02:50:25.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Initiative na nung asr-004238 02:50:25.720 --> 02:50:27.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: NCR Director? asr-004239 02:50:27.800 --> 02:50:28.940 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Inspection, sir, asr-004240 02:50:28.980 --> 02:50:29.900 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: are being done by the asr-004241 02:50:29.900 --> 02:50:30.720 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: regional offices asr-004242 02:50:30.720 --> 02:50:31.820 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: based on their targets. asr-004243 02:50:31.960 --> 02:50:32.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, hindi mo order yun. asr-004244 02:50:33.500 --> 02:50:34.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nandito ba si, asr-004245 02:50:34.480 --> 02:50:34.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you know, asr-004246 02:50:34.860 --> 02:50:35.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Regional Director asr-004247 02:50:35.620 --> 02:50:36.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Janice Pamit? asr-004248 02:50:37.780 --> 02:50:38.260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Ma'am, asr-004249 02:50:38.380 --> 02:50:38.800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: can I have a asr-004250 02:50:38.800 --> 02:50:39.220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ask question? asr-004251 02:50:40.600 --> 02:50:41.000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Well, asr-004252 02:50:41.060 --> 02:50:41.700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: while she's asr-004253 02:50:41.700 --> 02:50:42.900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: getting seated, asr-004254 02:50:43.080 --> 02:50:44.280 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: can I just go back to GM? asr-004255 02:50:44.400 --> 02:50:45.220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Sandali, GM, pwede? asr-004256 02:50:45.600 --> 02:50:46.620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Senator Pia. asr-004257 02:50:47.480 --> 02:50:47.860 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you. asr-004258 02:50:47.940 --> 02:50:48.800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you, Madam Chair. asr-004259 02:50:49.100 --> 02:50:49.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Please. asr-004260 02:50:49.460 --> 02:50:50.660 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Follow-up question lang, sir. asr-004261 02:50:51.540 --> 02:50:52.640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Oo, kasi yung tinatanong lang asr-004262 02:50:52.640 --> 02:50:53.260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: naman ni, asr-004263 02:50:53.260 --> 02:50:53.540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ano, asr-004264 02:50:53.680 --> 02:50:54.640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ni Senator Allan asr-004265 02:50:54.640 --> 02:50:55.020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: is, asr-004266 02:50:55.520 --> 02:50:56.560 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: bakit in public asr-004267 02:50:56.560 --> 02:50:57.640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: pinapalabasin, asr-004268 02:50:57.800 --> 02:50:58.140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: nyo, asr-004269 02:50:58.320 --> 02:50:59.640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na may masasamang asr-004270 02:50:59.640 --> 02:51:00.920 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: nangyayari sa Taguig? asr-004271 02:51:01.040 --> 02:51:02.060 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ay, wala po. asr-004272 02:51:02.180 --> 02:51:02.680 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala po ako. asr-004273 02:51:02.800 --> 02:51:03.300 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Kaya nga, asr-004274 02:51:03.340 --> 02:51:03.680 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi po ako asr-004275 02:51:03.680 --> 02:51:04.380 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: saseltanin. asr-004276 02:51:04.660 --> 02:51:05.740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I just wanted to asr-004277 02:51:05.740 --> 02:51:06.420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: point out, sir, asr-004278 02:51:06.500 --> 02:51:07.340 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: so that I can give you asr-004279 02:51:07.340 --> 02:51:09.080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: an opportunity to explain asr-004280 02:51:09.080 --> 02:51:10.640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na bakit ang asr-004281 02:51:10.640 --> 02:51:12.840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sariling Facebook page asr-004282 02:51:12.840 --> 02:51:13.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng LLDA asr-004283 02:51:13.880 --> 02:51:14.960 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: punong-puno asr-004284 02:51:14.960 --> 02:51:15.980 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng mga update asr-004285 02:51:15.980 --> 02:51:16.760 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sa mga asr-004286 02:51:16.760 --> 02:51:17.780 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: investigation nyo asr-004287 02:51:17.780 --> 02:51:18.280 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sa Taguig. asr-004288 02:51:18.560 --> 02:51:19.220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Salamat, no? asr-004289 02:51:19.400 --> 02:51:20.400 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Pinapaalam nyo sa public, asr-004290 02:51:20.560 --> 02:51:21.420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: LLDA, asr-004291 02:51:21.420 --> 02:51:22.020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: nag-hain ng asr-004292 02:51:22.020 --> 02:51:22.720 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ex-partices asr-004293 02:51:22.720 --> 02:51:23.660 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and this is order asr-004294 02:51:23.660 --> 02:51:24.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: laban sa illegal asr-004295 02:51:24.880 --> 02:51:25.580 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: development, asr-004296 02:51:26.100 --> 02:51:26.600 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: back-filling, asr-004297 02:51:26.720 --> 02:51:27.680 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: reclamation activities asr-004298 02:51:27.800 --> 02:51:28.580 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sa Taguig City. asr-004299 02:51:29.020 --> 02:51:30.240 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Tapos, blow-by-blow po yun. asr-004300 02:51:30.300 --> 02:51:30.900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Are you aware asr-004301 02:51:30.900 --> 02:51:31.920 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na may ganito kayo? asr-004302 02:51:32.020 --> 02:51:32.640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Hindi ko nyo aware? asr-004303 02:51:33.400 --> 02:51:33.840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, sino nyo asr-004304 02:51:33.840 --> 02:51:34.360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: may decide asr-004305 02:51:34.360 --> 02:51:35.180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng mga posting nyo asr-004306 02:51:35.180 --> 02:51:35.740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sa Facebook? asr-004307 02:51:36.620 --> 02:51:37.560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Meron daw po, sir. asr-004308 02:51:37.820 --> 02:51:39.160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Hindi ko nyo aware, sir. asr-004309 02:51:40.740 --> 02:51:41.700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Tapos, pag pinikap asr-004310 02:51:41.700 --> 02:51:42.320 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng media yun, asr-004311 02:51:42.420 --> 02:51:43.060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sisisiin nyo pa asr-004312 02:51:43.060 --> 02:51:43.460 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: yung media. asr-004313 02:51:44.300 --> 02:51:45.200 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: O, so, nandyan po yan. asr-004314 02:51:45.300 --> 02:51:46.000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And then, may kasunod asr-004315 02:51:46.000 --> 02:51:46.300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: pa yan. asr-004316 02:51:47.980 --> 02:51:48.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: LLDA joins asr-004317 02:51:48.880 --> 02:51:50.120 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: inter-agency inspection asr-004318 02:51:50.120 --> 02:51:50.860 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: along Taguig asr-004319 02:51:50.860 --> 02:51:51.300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: lakeshore asr-004320 02:51:51.300 --> 02:51:52.120 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: order stop asr-004321 02:51:52.120 --> 02:51:53.320 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to back-filling activity. asr-004322 02:51:53.720 --> 02:51:54.140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Sige po, asr-004323 02:51:54.260 --> 02:51:54.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: assuming, sir, asr-004324 02:51:55.000 --> 02:51:55.800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na this is really asr-004325 02:51:55.800 --> 02:51:56.980 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: important for you asr-004326 02:51:56.980 --> 02:51:57.280 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to asr-004327 02:51:57.800 --> 02:51:59.020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: inform the public asr-004328 02:51:59.020 --> 02:51:59.420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: about. asr-004329 02:51:59.840 --> 02:52:01.180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Pero, yung mga asr-004330 02:52:01.180 --> 02:52:02.240 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sinabi nyo may asr-004331 02:52:02.240 --> 02:52:02.840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: cease and desist asr-004332 02:52:02.840 --> 02:52:03.620 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: din kayo sa Angon asr-004333 02:52:03.620 --> 02:52:04.060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: or Rizal, asr-004334 02:52:04.360 --> 02:52:05.080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: meron yan sa asr-004335 02:52:05.080 --> 02:52:06.620 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: website nyo? asr-004336 02:52:07.240 --> 02:52:07.700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala ho. asr-004337 02:52:08.780 --> 02:52:09.200 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Meron? asr-004338 02:52:09.900 --> 02:52:10.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Hindi nyo alam. asr-004339 02:52:11.240 --> 02:52:12.100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Yung sa Muntinlupa, asr-004340 02:52:12.480 --> 02:52:13.160 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: pinosh nyo rin asr-004341 02:52:13.160 --> 02:52:14.100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: yung blow-by-blow asr-004342 02:52:14.100 --> 02:52:15.200 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na ginagawa nyo doon? asr-004343 02:52:16.520 --> 02:52:16.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Meron? asr-004344 02:52:17.880 --> 02:52:18.800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala din po, sir. asr-004345 02:52:19.120 --> 02:52:20.060 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala din po, ma'am. asr-004346 02:52:20.400 --> 02:52:21.000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, bakit? asr-004347 02:52:21.120 --> 02:52:22.160 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why the special interest? asr-004348 02:52:22.260 --> 02:52:22.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Wala akong problema. asr-004349 02:52:23.420 --> 02:52:24.160 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: You want to inform asr-004350 02:52:24.160 --> 02:52:25.000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: everybody of what asr-004351 02:52:25.000 --> 02:52:25.740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: your staff is doing asr-004352 02:52:25.740 --> 02:52:26.600 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: from 8 a.m. asr-004353 02:52:26.640 --> 02:52:27.260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to 5 p.m.? asr-004354 02:52:27.260 --> 02:52:27.780 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Go ahead. asr-004355 02:52:27.800 --> 02:52:29.200 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Ang tinatanong lang asr-004356 02:52:29.200 --> 02:52:29.900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ni Sen. Alan asr-004357 02:52:29.900 --> 02:52:30.780 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: napakasimple. asr-004358 02:52:31.940 --> 02:52:32.820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why do you make it asr-004359 02:52:32.820 --> 02:52:33.860 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: appear in public asr-004360 02:52:33.860 --> 02:52:35.740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na ang daming asr-004361 02:52:35.740 --> 02:52:36.500 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: may masasamang asr-004362 02:52:36.500 --> 02:52:37.480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: nangyayari sa Taguig? asr-004363 02:52:38.220 --> 02:52:38.820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And if you don't, asr-004364 02:52:38.900 --> 02:52:40.020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: if that is not the intention, asr-004365 02:52:40.160 --> 02:52:41.140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: then why publicize asr-004366 02:52:41.140 --> 02:52:42.140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: for Taguig asr-004367 02:52:42.140 --> 02:52:43.020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and you don't publicize asr-004368 02:52:43.020 --> 02:52:44.100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: your work in other places? asr-004369 02:52:44.240 --> 02:52:45.440 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why the special interest? asr-004370 02:52:47.320 --> 02:52:48.220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why the special interest? asr-004371 02:52:48.280 --> 02:52:48.860 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Just answer that asr-004372 02:52:48.860 --> 02:52:49.480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: so we can go on asr-004373 02:52:49.480 --> 02:52:50.220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to the next question. asr-004374 02:52:51.680 --> 02:52:53.020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why the special interest? asr-004375 02:52:53.860 --> 02:52:54.620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Oo po, hindi ako asr-004376 02:52:54.620 --> 02:52:55.980 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: personal na rin kasabi asr-004377 02:52:55.980 --> 02:52:57.780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ng against Taguig. asr-004378 02:52:57.800 --> 02:52:59.380 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Kung may nagpapos man yan, asr-004379 02:52:59.520 --> 02:53:00.780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: baka hindi po kami. asr-004380 02:53:03.160 --> 02:53:04.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'll add to that, sir. asr-004381 02:53:05.000 --> 02:53:05.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, pinost nyo lahat asr-004382 02:53:05.780 --> 02:53:06.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng inspection nyo. asr-004383 02:53:06.960 --> 02:53:07.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa inspection nyo, asr-004384 02:53:08.280 --> 02:53:09.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may nakita kayo doon asr-004385 02:53:09.240 --> 02:53:09.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na commercial asr-004386 02:53:09.740 --> 02:53:11.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: o lahat for the public? asr-004387 02:53:13.300 --> 02:53:14.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pinos nyo ba? asr-004388 02:53:14.640 --> 02:53:15.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na after, asr-004389 02:53:15.580 --> 02:53:16.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pakilakasan lang, ma'am. asr-004390 02:53:16.720 --> 02:53:17.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May nakita kayo doon asr-004391 02:53:17.760 --> 02:53:18.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: commercial of any asr-004392 02:53:18.860 --> 02:53:19.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or lahat for public? asr-004393 02:53:20.520 --> 02:53:21.000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Sandali, ha? asr-004394 02:53:21.000 --> 02:53:21.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Sandali, sandali. asr-004395 02:53:21.900 --> 02:53:22.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Pwede mo ba yung mic asr-004396 02:53:22.880 --> 02:53:23.920 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na nasa harap ni asr-004397 02:53:23.920 --> 02:53:25.940 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Atty. Mata sa inyo asr-004398 02:53:25.940 --> 02:53:26.940 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: so that you're not sharing? asr-004399 02:53:26.940 --> 02:53:27.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tony Salonga, asr-004400 02:53:28.060 --> 02:53:29.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I know water is scarce asr-004401 02:53:29.100 --> 02:53:29.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but yung mic, asr-004402 02:53:29.860 --> 02:53:30.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka pwede natin asr-004403 02:53:30.660 --> 02:53:32.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: i-share. asr-004404 02:53:33.320 --> 02:53:34.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yeah, thank you, sir. asr-004405 02:53:34.200 --> 02:53:34.460 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Kayo na. asr-004406 02:53:35.160 --> 02:53:35.580 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ma'am muna. asr-004407 02:53:37.960 --> 02:53:39.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ma'am, asr-004408 02:53:39.420 --> 02:53:40.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may nakita kayong commercial asr-004409 02:53:40.540 --> 02:53:42.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon sa Taguig Lakeshore asr-004410 02:53:42.360 --> 02:53:44.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi dinadamay yung private. asr-004411 02:53:44.860 --> 02:53:46.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung pinost ni Senator Lacson asr-004412 02:53:46.540 --> 02:53:47.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na Taguig daw asr-004413 02:53:47.680 --> 02:53:48.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang nagre-reclaim. asr-004414 02:53:49.740 --> 02:53:50.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Baliktad, asr-004415 02:53:50.360 --> 02:53:50.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang Taguig City asr-004416 02:53:50.980 --> 02:53:51.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: has been writing them asr-004417 02:53:51.940 --> 02:53:52.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to stop, di ba? asr-004418 02:53:53.000 --> 02:53:53.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-004419 02:53:54.000 --> 02:53:54.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Doon sa parks asr-004420 02:53:55.480 --> 02:53:56.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that are run by the city, asr-004421 02:53:56.940 --> 02:53:57.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may nakita kayong asr-004422 02:53:57.800 --> 02:53:59.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: malalaking commercial, asr-004423 02:53:59.760 --> 02:54:00.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may Jollibee doon, asr-004424 02:54:00.680 --> 02:54:01.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: McDonald's. asr-004425 02:54:01.440 --> 02:54:02.120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Public ano po. asr-004426 02:54:02.460 --> 02:54:03.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Public lahat, di ba? asr-004427 02:54:03.820 --> 02:54:05.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They're all parks, right? asr-004428 02:54:05.280 --> 02:54:05.540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes. asr-004429 02:54:05.700 --> 02:54:05.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-004430 02:54:06.340 --> 02:54:07.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May nakita kayo asr-004431 02:54:07.360 --> 02:54:08.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa research na tinituluan yun asr-004432 02:54:08.860 --> 02:54:09.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in a private asr-004433 02:54:09.480 --> 02:54:10.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or even in the name of Taguig? asr-004434 02:54:11.980 --> 02:54:12.400 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Wala po. asr-004435 02:54:12.420 --> 02:54:12.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala, di ba? asr-004436 02:54:13.120 --> 02:54:13.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-004437 02:54:13.620 --> 02:54:14.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ba't wala sa website na yan? asr-004438 02:54:15.860 --> 02:54:17.380 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Meron po kaming nireport asr-004439 02:54:17.380 --> 02:54:18.340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: na there are some asr-004440 02:54:18.340 --> 02:54:18.940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: homeowners association. asr-004441 02:54:19.540 --> 02:54:19.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. asr-004442 02:54:19.980 --> 02:54:21.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nireport nyo lahat na masama. asr-004443 02:54:21.840 --> 02:54:22.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung nakita nyo asr-004444 02:54:22.740 --> 02:54:23.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa investigasyon nyo asr-004445 02:54:23.820 --> 02:54:24.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na mabuti, asr-004446 02:54:24.560 --> 02:54:25.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi nyo nireport. asr-004447 02:54:26.060 --> 02:54:26.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, what if asr-004448 02:54:26.940 --> 02:54:28.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ilalagay ko ngayon asr-004449 02:54:28.100 --> 02:54:30.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Facebook ko asr-004450 02:54:30.480 --> 02:54:32.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lahat ng mali nyong sagot asr-004451 02:54:32.440 --> 02:54:34.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero may tama kayong sagot asr-004452 02:54:34.340 --> 02:54:35.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ko nilagay. asr-004453 02:54:35.100 --> 02:54:35.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How would you feel? asr-004454 02:54:36.720 --> 02:54:37.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Would that be fair? asr-004455 02:54:40.080 --> 02:54:42.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Personally, I don't... asr-004456 02:54:42.100 --> 02:54:43.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I ask Vince the same thing. asr-004457 02:54:43.320 --> 02:54:44.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I ask Vince the same thing. asr-004458 02:54:44.800 --> 02:54:45.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What was your report? asr-004459 02:54:46.080 --> 02:54:46.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He said, asr-004460 02:54:46.460 --> 02:54:47.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: walang ghost sa Taguig. asr-004461 02:54:47.940 --> 02:54:49.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nung inupakan ni Senator Lacson, asr-004462 02:54:49.480 --> 02:54:50.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: biglang may ghost, asr-004463 02:54:50.300 --> 02:54:51.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka daw meron. asr-004464 02:54:51.600 --> 02:54:51.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sinabi, asr-004465 02:54:52.060 --> 02:54:52.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Leyte, asr-004466 02:54:52.880 --> 02:54:53.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kinuha ko yung report. asr-004467 02:54:53.940 --> 02:54:54.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong nakalagay sa report? asr-004468 02:54:55.580 --> 02:54:56.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The contractor in Leyte, asr-004469 02:54:56.940 --> 02:54:58.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the contractor in Taguig, asr-004470 02:54:58.160 --> 02:54:59.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he got messed up sa billing asr-004471 02:54:59.320 --> 02:55:00.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but the project was done. asr-004472 02:55:01.680 --> 02:55:02.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But yet, asr-004473 02:55:02.100 --> 02:55:02.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH asr-004474 02:55:02.740 --> 02:55:04.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doesn't have the gall asr-004475 02:55:04.360 --> 02:55:05.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to say na, asr-004476 02:55:05.300 --> 02:55:05.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi, wala. asr-004477 02:55:08.060 --> 02:55:08.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Same sa inyo. asr-004478 02:55:09.100 --> 02:55:10.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bakit pa kayo takot na takot asr-004479 02:55:10.380 --> 02:55:11.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na magsabi lang na asr-004480 02:55:11.540 --> 02:55:12.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not asking you to lie. asr-004481 02:55:13.340 --> 02:55:14.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not asking you to compliment. asr-004482 02:55:15.000 --> 02:55:16.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm asking you to give facts. asr-004483 02:55:17.260 --> 02:55:18.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Or is that too much to ask? asr-004484 02:55:18.940 --> 02:55:19.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Is it too much to ask asr-004485 02:55:19.880 --> 02:55:20.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that LLD say, asr-004486 02:55:20.960 --> 02:55:21.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sorry, PRA, asr-004487 02:55:22.160 --> 02:55:23.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala kayong jurisdiction dito? asr-004488 02:55:23.900 --> 02:55:24.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Is it too much to ask asr-004489 02:55:24.980 --> 02:55:26.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to post your report? asr-004490 02:55:26.460 --> 02:55:27.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung ano nakita nyo doon? asr-004491 02:55:28.400 --> 02:55:28.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh. asr-004492 02:55:29.140 --> 02:55:29.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, asr-004493 02:55:29.480 --> 02:55:31.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Madam Chair, asr-004494 02:55:31.460 --> 02:55:31.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ito po. asr-004495 02:55:32.960 --> 02:55:34.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Director Janice, asr-004496 02:55:34.840 --> 02:55:35.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung inyong inspection, asr-004497 02:55:36.040 --> 02:55:36.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: buong Metro Manila? asr-004498 02:55:37.980 --> 02:55:38.500 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Yes po, asr-004499 02:55:38.580 --> 02:55:39.600 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: meron pong target asr-004500 02:55:39.600 --> 02:55:40.200 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: ang asr-004501 02:55:40.200 --> 02:55:42.800 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: regions with regard to asr-004502 02:55:42.800 --> 02:55:44.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ano-anong area asr-004503 02:55:44.020 --> 02:55:45.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang pina-inspect niya? asr-004504 02:55:46.600 --> 02:55:48.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And over what period? asr-004505 02:55:50.360 --> 02:55:51.600 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Meron po kaming asr-004506 02:55:51.600 --> 02:55:52.640 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: targets, asr-004507 02:55:52.800 --> 02:55:53.480 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Senator. asr-004508 02:55:53.800 --> 02:55:54.120 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: So, asr-004509 02:55:54.980 --> 02:55:56.260 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: we can provide po asr-004510 02:55:56.260 --> 02:55:56.780 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: the asr-004511 02:55:56.780 --> 02:55:58.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Just in front of asr-004512 02:55:58.460 --> 02:55:59.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Secretary right now. asr-004513 02:55:59.920 --> 02:56:00.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ano yung mga asr-004514 02:56:00.460 --> 02:56:01.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pina-inspect nyo asr-004515 02:56:01.260 --> 02:56:02.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: itong last month lang, asr-004516 02:56:02.600 --> 02:56:02.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: halimbawa? asr-004517 02:56:03.500 --> 02:56:04.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Itong October? asr-004518 02:56:05.760 --> 02:56:07.040 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Meron pong September asr-004519 02:56:07.040 --> 02:56:07.460 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: for asr-004520 02:56:07.460 --> 02:56:07.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, October. asr-004521 02:56:08.060 --> 02:56:08.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong pina-inspect nyo asr-004522 02:56:08.960 --> 02:56:09.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: itong October? asr-004523 02:56:10.160 --> 02:56:10.820 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Tagig po. asr-004524 02:56:10.940 --> 02:56:11.320 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: September. asr-004525 02:56:11.540 --> 02:56:12.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tagig lang? asr-004526 02:56:12.140 --> 02:56:12.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa buong Metro Manila, asr-004527 02:56:13.000 --> 02:56:14.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tagig lang pina-inspect mo? asr-004528 02:56:14.200 --> 02:56:14.960 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Puntin lupa po asr-004529 02:56:14.960 --> 02:56:15.640 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: in September. asr-004530 02:56:16.100 --> 02:56:16.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-004531 02:56:16.660 --> 02:56:17.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, buong tagig, asr-004532 02:56:17.860 --> 02:56:18.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: isa lang. asr-004533 02:56:20.900 --> 02:56:21.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Buong September, asr-004534 02:56:21.960 --> 02:56:22.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: buong October, asr-004535 02:56:22.760 --> 02:56:23.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tagig lang pina-inspect mo? asr-004536 02:56:24.620 --> 02:56:24.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ito, asr-004537 02:56:24.940 --> 02:56:26.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Department, asr-004538 02:56:26.840 --> 02:56:27.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pursuant to asr-004539 02:56:27.940 --> 02:56:29.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Philippine Environment Impact, asr-004540 02:56:29.960 --> 02:56:30.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Philippine Clean Air, asr-004541 02:56:31.120 --> 02:56:32.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Philippine Clean Water, asr-004542 02:56:32.400 --> 02:56:34.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Toxic Chemical and Hazardous Waste asr-004543 02:56:34.300 --> 02:56:35.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and Nuclear Waste. asr-004544 02:56:35.880 --> 02:56:37.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You are hereby directed asr-004545 02:56:37.060 --> 02:56:38.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to conduct inspection, asr-004546 02:56:39.320 --> 02:56:40.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ECC condition, asr-004547 02:56:40.440 --> 02:56:42.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: water toxic hazard, asr-004548 02:56:42.500 --> 02:56:43.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: possible imminent pollution, asr-004549 02:56:44.040 --> 02:56:44.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: industrial establishment, asr-004550 02:56:45.400 --> 02:56:46.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hotel, hospital, asr-004551 02:56:46.400 --> 02:56:46.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: schools, asr-004552 02:56:46.740 --> 02:56:47.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Metro Manila. asr-004553 02:56:48.540 --> 02:56:49.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero sa heading, asr-004554 02:56:49.980 --> 02:56:51.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung permit niya to go out asr-004555 02:56:51.340 --> 02:56:52.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is only Tagig, asr-004556 02:56:53.620 --> 02:56:54.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: park, asr-004557 02:56:54.580 --> 02:56:54.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tagig, asr-004558 02:56:54.940 --> 02:56:56.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lakeshore Community Park, asr-004559 02:56:56.540 --> 02:56:58.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: other adjacent nearby establishments asr-004560 02:56:58.500 --> 02:56:59.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Tagig City. asr-004561 02:56:59.720 --> 02:56:59.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron. asr-004562 02:57:00.040 --> 02:57:01.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, where else in Metro Manila asr-004563 02:57:01.640 --> 02:57:03.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in October pina-inspect mo? asr-004564 02:57:03.400 --> 02:57:04.600 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Lahat po ng cities yan, asr-004565 02:57:04.660 --> 02:57:05.200 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: meron po yan. asr-004566 02:57:05.220 --> 02:57:05.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no. asr-004567 02:57:05.520 --> 02:57:07.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm talking about October. asr-004568 02:57:07.340 --> 02:57:07.820 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Yes, po. asr-004569 02:57:07.960 --> 02:57:09.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lahat ng cities meron ka. asr-004570 02:57:09.200 --> 02:57:09.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, meron po yan. asr-004571 02:57:09.480 --> 02:57:10.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, name one or two? asr-004572 02:57:12.380 --> 02:57:13.080 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Lahat po. asr-004573 02:57:13.320 --> 02:57:14.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Name one or two? asr-004574 02:57:14.780 --> 02:57:16.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And what establishment specifically? asr-004575 02:57:17.720 --> 02:57:18.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You signed it, asr-004576 02:57:18.660 --> 02:57:19.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so you know. asr-004577 02:57:19.820 --> 02:57:20.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, asr-004578 02:57:20.840 --> 02:57:22.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: let's say in Puntin lupa asr-004579 02:57:22.240 --> 02:57:23.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or Pasig, asr-004580 02:57:23.800 --> 02:57:24.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano pina-inspect mo? asr-004581 02:57:24.940 --> 02:57:26.940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Maraming senator. asr-004582 02:57:26.940 --> 02:57:27.580 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Maraming senator. asr-004583 02:57:28.600 --> 02:57:29.120 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: For asr-004584 02:57:29.120 --> 02:57:31.600 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Puntin lupa asr-004585 02:57:31.600 --> 02:57:31.940 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: to inspections asr-004586 02:57:32.520 --> 02:57:32.940 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: conducted. asr-004587 02:57:34.640 --> 02:57:35.420 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Pero sir, asr-004588 02:57:35.860 --> 02:57:37.000 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: September 14 po yung latest. asr-004589 02:57:37.000 --> 02:57:37.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What established nga? asr-004590 02:57:38.600 --> 02:57:40.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm talking about October, ma'am. asr-004591 02:57:41.700 --> 02:57:42.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, October, Tagig lang. asr-004592 02:57:43.320 --> 02:57:44.680 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Maraming po yan, Mr. asr-004593 02:57:44.680 --> 02:57:45.640 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Kaya nga, then name one. asr-004594 02:57:46.540 --> 02:57:47.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Marami pala, then name one. asr-004595 02:57:48.180 --> 02:57:48.680 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: For all, asr-004596 02:57:49.040 --> 02:57:50.720 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: multimedia po yan, asr-004597 02:57:50.980 --> 02:57:52.060 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Mr. Senator. asr-004598 02:57:52.200 --> 02:57:53.380 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: That's why marami po yung asr-004599 02:57:53.380 --> 02:57:54.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What do you mean multimedia? asr-004600 02:57:54.080 --> 02:57:54.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Five. asr-004601 02:57:54.420 --> 02:57:54.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Five. asr-004602 02:57:54.940 --> 02:57:57.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This isn't a generic look asr-004603 02:57:57.640 --> 02:57:58.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: anywhere in Taguig. asr-004604 02:57:59.000 --> 02:57:59.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You stated asr-004605 02:57:59.780 --> 02:58:02.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taguig Lakeshore Park asr-004606 02:58:02.520 --> 02:58:03.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and other adjacent asr-004607 02:58:03.760 --> 02:58:04.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nearby establishment. asr-004608 02:58:05.540 --> 02:58:06.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I want to know asr-004609 02:58:06.700 --> 02:58:08.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: where pa in Metro Manila asr-004610 02:58:08.380 --> 02:58:10.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: did you ask them to look? asr-004611 02:58:10.760 --> 02:58:11.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you ask them to look asr-004612 02:58:11.860 --> 02:58:12.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at the malls? asr-004613 02:58:12.700 --> 02:58:13.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you ask them to look asr-004614 02:58:13.580 --> 02:58:15.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at Pasig River? asr-004615 02:58:15.720 --> 02:58:17.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you ask them to look where? asr-004616 02:58:20.740 --> 02:58:21.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So that I know asr-004617 02:58:21.480 --> 02:58:22.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if you're looking everywhere asr-004618 02:58:22.460 --> 02:58:23.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or coincidence lang to asr-004619 02:58:23.640 --> 02:58:24.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na lahat kayong asr-004620 02:58:24.920 --> 02:58:26.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ahensya ng gobyerno, asr-004621 02:58:27.000 --> 02:58:28.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: biglang gustong pumunta ng asr-004622 02:58:28.680 --> 02:58:29.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taguig Lakeshore Park, asr-004623 02:58:30.060 --> 02:58:30.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which you're all welcome. asr-004624 02:58:31.880 --> 02:58:32.900 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Tama po, Mr. Senator, asr-004625 02:58:33.020 --> 02:58:33.900 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: we have Pasig, asr-004626 02:58:34.020 --> 02:58:34.740 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: meron pong Manila. asr-004627 02:58:35.300 --> 02:58:36.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige, ano sa Pasig asr-004628 02:58:36.300 --> 02:58:37.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang pinainspeksyon mo? asr-004629 02:58:41.440 --> 02:58:42.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's not at the top of your head. asr-004630 02:58:43.120 --> 02:58:43.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, asr-004631 02:58:44.720 --> 02:58:45.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this isn't, ano ha, asr-004632 02:58:45.780 --> 02:58:47.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this isn't, asr-004633 02:58:47.120 --> 02:58:48.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taguig is bigger than Manila asr-004634 02:58:48.780 --> 02:58:50.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and you didn't ask them asr-004635 02:58:50.960 --> 02:58:52.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to inspect anywhere else asr-004636 02:58:52.180 --> 02:58:52.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Taguig. asr-004637 02:58:53.060 --> 02:58:54.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You just asked them asr-004638 02:58:54.120 --> 02:58:54.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to inspect this. asr-004639 02:58:54.920 --> 02:58:55.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. asr-004640 02:58:57.380 --> 02:58:57.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yeah. asr-004641 02:58:58.300 --> 02:58:58.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ma'am, asr-004642 02:58:59.000 --> 02:59:00.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinatanong what triggered? asr-004643 02:59:00.240 --> 02:59:00.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ma'am, asr-004644 02:59:00.640 --> 02:59:01.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit yung Lakeshore? asr-004645 02:59:01.580 --> 02:59:01.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, asr-004646 02:59:01.840 --> 02:59:03.000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: why Lakeshore, no? asr-004647 02:59:03.080 --> 02:59:03.900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because alam ni asr-004648 02:59:03.900 --> 02:59:04.960 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Secretary to, asr-004649 02:59:05.060 --> 02:59:05.820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: dahil ever since, asr-004650 02:59:05.920 --> 02:59:06.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: yung mga concerns ko asr-004651 02:59:06.880 --> 02:59:09.260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: on environmental pollution, asr-004652 02:59:09.500 --> 02:59:10.260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: yung discarding asr-004653 02:59:10.260 --> 02:59:11.680 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: of mga medical waste, asr-004654 02:59:11.800 --> 02:59:11.900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: di ba, asr-004655 02:59:11.980 --> 02:59:13.000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: you know all that asr-004656 02:59:13.000 --> 02:59:14.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and I won't be asr-004657 02:59:14.880 --> 02:59:15.800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: taking up the time na asr-004658 02:59:15.800 --> 02:59:16.560 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I'll submit na lang asr-004659 02:59:16.560 --> 02:59:17.840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: yung ating implementation asr-004660 02:59:17.840 --> 02:59:18.560 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng ating asr-004661 02:59:18.560 --> 02:59:21.980 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: extended producer's asr-004662 02:59:21.980 --> 02:59:22.580 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: responsibility. asr-004663 02:59:22.840 --> 02:59:24.120 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Andami kong specifics diyan. asr-004664 02:59:24.200 --> 02:59:24.900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Those of you who've been here, asr-004665 02:59:24.920 --> 02:59:26.220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: kinimay ko yan. asr-004666 02:59:26.320 --> 02:59:27.480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I'm also curious asr-004667 02:59:27.480 --> 02:59:28.700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: what's going on asr-004668 02:59:28.700 --> 02:59:29.220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: in Lakeshore asr-004669 02:59:29.220 --> 02:59:30.540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: that it had to be asr-004670 02:59:30.540 --> 02:59:31.600 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: spelled out specifically asr-004671 02:59:31.600 --> 02:59:33.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and what triggered it? asr-004672 02:59:33.540 --> 02:59:34.820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Did the Secretary ask you? asr-004673 02:59:34.960 --> 02:59:36.260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Did LLDA ask you? asr-004674 02:59:36.340 --> 02:59:37.060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Did somebody else asr-004675 02:59:37.060 --> 02:59:37.840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ask you to do it? asr-004676 02:59:37.940 --> 02:59:38.680 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Pakidagdag na lang asr-004677 02:59:38.680 --> 02:59:39.740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sa mga sagot nyo. asr-004678 02:59:39.840 --> 02:59:40.240 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you. asr-004679 02:59:42.040 --> 02:59:42.520 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Kamay, asr-004680 02:59:42.580 --> 02:59:43.320 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Atty. Janice. asr-004681 02:59:43.380 --> 02:59:43.880 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: For example, asr-004682 02:59:44.020 --> 02:59:44.740 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: sa Pasig, asr-004683 02:59:45.280 --> 02:59:46.140 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: we have asr-004684 02:59:46.140 --> 02:59:47.900 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: a xenome asr-004685 02:59:47.900 --> 02:59:48.560 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Chinmi asr-004686 02:59:48.560 --> 02:59:50.100 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: incorporated. asr-004687 02:59:50.700 --> 02:59:51.480 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: This one is asr-004688 02:59:51.480 --> 02:59:52.800 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: in Capitolio, Pasig. asr-004689 02:59:54.420 --> 02:59:54.900 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: So, asr-004690 02:59:54.920 --> 02:59:58.040 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: September 14, asr-004691 02:59:58.160 --> 02:59:58.220 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: 2026, asr-004692 02:59:59.020 --> 02:59:59.820 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: we also conducted asr-004693 02:59:59.820 --> 03:00:00.020 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: ... asr-004694 03:00:00.000 --> 03:00:03.860 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Transfer Station, IPM Construction in Taguig also. asr-004695 03:00:05.660 --> 03:00:10.700 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: For Area 4, kasi po yung pong NCR, we have four areas. asr-004696 03:00:10.880 --> 03:00:12.840 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Hinati po yung NCR into four areas. asr-004697 03:00:12.980 --> 03:00:14.360 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: So lahat po ng areas yun. asr-004698 03:00:14.820 --> 03:00:15.880 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Meron pong inspection. asr-004699 03:00:16.460 --> 03:00:20.600 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: The inspection is with regard to the mandates of EMB, asr-004700 03:00:20.600 --> 03:00:24.980 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: their compliances to Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, asr-004701 03:00:25.140 --> 03:00:28.120 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Toxic and Hazardous Waste Act, Solid Waste Management Act. asr-004702 03:00:28.120 --> 03:00:30.280 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: So yun po yung mga sine-check po na. asr-004703 03:00:30.300 --> 03:00:31.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I support that. asr-004704 03:00:31.360 --> 03:00:40.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang tanong ko, do you know how big the lakeshore area is in Taguig? asr-004705 03:00:41.140 --> 03:00:41.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This part. asr-004706 03:00:42.820 --> 03:00:43.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po, sir. asr-004707 03:00:43.440 --> 03:00:49.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's probably less than 10 hectares compared to 1,300 hectares outside the dike. asr-004708 03:00:50.280 --> 03:00:54.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So why inspect the 10 hectares and not inspect the 1,300 hectares? asr-004709 03:00:56.660 --> 03:00:57.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What's the trigger? asr-004710 03:00:57.620 --> 03:00:58.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What's the reason? asr-004711 03:00:59.300 --> 03:00:59.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't mind. asr-004712 03:00:59.920 --> 03:01:00.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nabasa sa dyaryo. asr-004713 03:01:00.920 --> 03:01:02.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So it's your duty. asr-004714 03:01:02.900 --> 03:01:03.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? asr-004715 03:01:04.480 --> 03:01:10.700 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Sir, Mr. Senator, yun pong there was an inspection. asr-004716 03:01:10.940 --> 03:01:13.620 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Nakasama po kami ng Office of the Ombudsman. asr-004717 03:01:14.700 --> 03:01:18.400 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: So they requested us to be there. asr-004718 03:01:19.040 --> 03:01:20.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So why didn't you tell me from the start? asr-004719 03:01:21.560 --> 03:01:22.620 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Meron po kasi kaming... asr-004720 03:01:24.480 --> 03:01:26.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When was that? asr-004721 03:01:26.160 --> 03:01:27.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When was that? asr-004722 03:01:27.620 --> 03:01:29.800 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: October 2, if I'm not mistaken. asr-004723 03:01:29.920 --> 03:01:31.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then you went back on your own. asr-004724 03:01:32.440 --> 03:01:32.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, po. asr-004725 03:01:33.020 --> 03:01:34.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Why did you go back on your own? asr-004726 03:01:36.620 --> 03:01:37.980 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: I bumalik po doon sa site. asr-004727 03:01:38.320 --> 03:01:41.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, you said nirequest kayo ng Ombudsman, sumama kayo. asr-004728 03:01:41.800 --> 03:01:42.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, po. asr-004729 03:01:42.060 --> 03:01:43.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dapat naman, sumunod sa Ombudsman. asr-004730 03:01:44.380 --> 03:01:45.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That was October 2. asr-004731 03:01:45.420 --> 03:01:47.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: E bumalik kayo ng October 13. asr-004732 03:01:47.840 --> 03:01:48.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bakit kayo bumalik? asr-004733 03:01:52.500 --> 03:01:55.260 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Kasi po, nung October 2, asr-004734 03:01:57.620 --> 03:02:01.240 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: nung October 2 po, asr-004735 03:02:01.340 --> 03:02:04.480 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: hindi po agad, hindi po na-complete yung inspection. asr-004736 03:02:05.500 --> 03:02:07.180 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: That's why they look for, asr-004737 03:02:07.760 --> 03:02:10.900 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: yun po, para makompleto po yung aming ICI, asr-004738 03:02:11.000 --> 03:02:11.940 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: or yung report po namin. asr-004739 03:02:12.060 --> 03:02:15.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And usually, kapag ka-gobyerno ang inspect nyo, asr-004740 03:02:16.220 --> 03:02:19.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you don't want the cooperation of that LGU. asr-004741 03:02:20.540 --> 03:02:22.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This is a travel order. asr-004742 03:02:23.120 --> 03:02:26.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You show up there without any communication, asr-004743 03:02:26.140 --> 03:02:27.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: without any... asr-004744 03:02:27.620 --> 03:02:28.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: without anything. asr-004745 03:02:29.580 --> 03:02:30.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's okay if it's a surprise. asr-004746 03:02:31.800 --> 03:02:32.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's an open park. asr-004747 03:02:32.860 --> 03:02:33.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You can go anytime. asr-004748 03:02:34.160 --> 03:02:35.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You don't even need this. asr-004749 03:02:35.280 --> 03:02:36.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You can go to inspect if it's ano. asr-004750 03:02:37.020 --> 03:02:39.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But if it's an inspection, a government-to-government, asr-004751 03:02:40.800 --> 03:02:43.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: why no coordination with the LGU? asr-004752 03:02:44.720 --> 03:02:46.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They just showed up there and said na meron neto. asr-004753 03:02:48.680 --> 03:02:49.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Why? asr-004754 03:02:50.280 --> 03:02:53.000 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: There are instances, Mr. Senator, asr-004755 03:02:53.000 --> 03:02:55.000 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: that hindi po... asr-004756 03:02:55.740 --> 03:02:57.000 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Since this is... asr-004757 03:02:57.620 --> 03:02:59.160 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: People's Park, as you said naman po. asr-004758 03:02:59.360 --> 03:03:02.020 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: So, we... asr-004759 03:03:02.020 --> 03:03:07.160 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: I think the inspectors need not to coordinate further with the... asr-004760 03:03:07.160 --> 03:03:09.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then sana hindi na kayo nagpakilala at nagpakita na ganito. asr-004761 03:03:09.860 --> 03:03:12.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sana pumunta na lang kayo as a... asr-004762 03:03:12.240 --> 03:03:14.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: someone who wants to enjoy the park. asr-004763 03:03:14.280 --> 03:03:15.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tinignan nyo yung CR, tinignan nyo lahat. asr-004764 03:03:16.640 --> 03:03:18.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? You're gonna show up there with this asr-004765 03:03:18.460 --> 03:03:19.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: while everything is happening. asr-004766 03:03:20.620 --> 03:03:22.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, if you're an ordinary tagik employee, asr-004767 03:03:23.420 --> 03:03:25.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pupunta ombudsman by themselves. asr-004768 03:03:25.140 --> 03:03:27.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then pupunta ombudsman LLDA. asr-004769 03:03:27.620 --> 03:03:29.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then pupunta PRA. asr-004770 03:03:29.620 --> 03:03:31.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then pupunta landman. asr-004771 03:03:31.200 --> 03:03:31.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lahat ganito. asr-004772 03:03:32.460 --> 03:03:35.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero the rest of the Laguna Lake, hindi nyo naman tinitignan. asr-004773 03:03:36.140 --> 03:03:38.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano iisipin nyo kung ordinaryo kayong empleyado ng tagik? asr-004774 03:03:39.480 --> 03:03:40.620 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: May iba po kaming pinuntahan. asr-004775 03:03:41.820 --> 03:03:42.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How would we know that? asr-004776 03:03:43.080 --> 03:03:43.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yun nga. asr-004777 03:03:43.860 --> 03:03:44.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How would we know that? asr-004778 03:03:49.920 --> 03:03:53.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, what area did you go with the office of the ombudsman? asr-004779 03:03:57.620 --> 03:04:11.780 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Kasama po dun yung sa tagig Lakeshore, October 13. asr-004780 03:04:13.780 --> 03:04:15.620 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: At yun pong... asr-004781 03:04:17.200 --> 03:04:19.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, eto, harap-harap kay Secretary. asr-004782 03:04:19.660 --> 03:04:25.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir Secretary, I'd like to invite all of your bureaus to visit. asr-004783 03:04:25.620 --> 03:04:27.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because walang tinatago. asr-004784 03:04:27.620 --> 03:04:29.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At maganda. asr-004785 03:04:29.580 --> 03:04:32.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm definitely sure you will learn something from it. asr-004786 03:04:32.960 --> 03:04:35.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I'm sure your people will also be able to teach us. asr-004787 03:04:36.560 --> 03:04:39.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ang request ko lang siguro, sabay-sabay na kayo. asr-004788 03:04:40.220 --> 03:04:45.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi kung every week, iba-ibang grupo ang pupunta dun, asr-004789 03:04:45.700 --> 03:04:46.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: magpapasko na, asr-004790 03:04:47.160 --> 03:04:52.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kawawa naman mga tao namin na nagbabantay lang dun, di ba? asr-004791 03:04:54.340 --> 03:04:56.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, I think political sensitivity asr-004792 03:04:56.780 --> 03:04:58.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is part of our job. asr-004793 03:04:58.300 --> 03:04:58.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're a director. asr-004794 03:04:59.120 --> 03:05:01.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're not an ordinary employee. asr-004795 03:05:02.460 --> 03:05:02.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? asr-004796 03:05:03.320 --> 03:05:04.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I don't mind. asr-004797 03:05:04.540 --> 03:05:05.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If you wanted to do it, surprise. asr-004798 03:05:05.980 --> 03:05:08.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Send them without introducing themselves. asr-004799 03:05:08.940 --> 03:05:10.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You want them to introduce themselves, asr-004800 03:05:10.380 --> 03:05:11.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you can't even call? asr-004801 03:05:15.660 --> 03:05:18.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When did tagig ever refuse an inspection from DNR? asr-004802 03:05:19.060 --> 03:05:20.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Or I'll ask the Secretary. asr-004803 03:05:20.800 --> 03:05:23.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, you've known me, I think, since high school. asr-004804 03:05:23.700 --> 03:05:26.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did I ever call you for anything? asr-004805 03:05:26.620 --> 03:05:30.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: For anything monetary, for any favor, for any, to break any law? asr-004806 03:05:30.360 --> 03:05:32.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wait, if I did say it now, di ba? asr-004807 03:05:33.560 --> 03:05:34.500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: No, Mr. Chair. asr-004808 03:05:34.620 --> 03:05:35.460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, no. asr-004809 03:05:35.700 --> 03:05:35.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Never. asr-004810 03:05:36.060 --> 03:05:37.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I've called you a couple of times. asr-004811 03:05:37.260 --> 03:05:39.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's always on the boundary. asr-004812 03:05:40.060 --> 03:05:43.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Well, basketball, don't beat me up because asr-004813 03:05:43.560 --> 03:05:46.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: medyo tougher yung team nyo before. asr-004814 03:05:46.980 --> 03:05:49.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I call once in a while asr-004815 03:05:49.720 --> 03:05:54.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if may problema sa bureau plans. asr-004816 03:05:54.680 --> 03:05:56.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And it's all, asr-004817 03:05:56.620 --> 03:06:02.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: regarding creeks and lakes and, sorry, rivers, esteros. asr-004818 03:06:02.700 --> 03:06:03.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And none of it was, asr-004819 03:06:04.100 --> 03:06:05.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the only time I called about private asr-004820 03:06:05.960 --> 03:06:07.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is yung sa implementation ng, asr-004821 03:06:08.080 --> 03:06:10.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung titulo na hindi pa binibigay sa 2476 asr-004822 03:06:10.940 --> 03:06:12.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: as amended by 172. asr-004823 03:06:13.020 --> 03:06:15.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I haven't called in like 15 years about that. asr-004824 03:06:15.700 --> 03:06:18.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, in my first three years and gano'n, di ba? asr-004825 03:06:18.580 --> 03:06:22.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I'll take your word for it, Director. asr-004826 03:06:22.400 --> 03:06:23.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, you look professional. asr-004827 03:06:23.580 --> 03:06:25.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think wala naman malis. asr-004828 03:06:25.860 --> 03:06:25.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, asr-004829 03:06:25.940 --> 03:06:27.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I hope, you know, asr-004830 03:06:28.600 --> 03:06:30.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this administration has enough problems asr-004831 03:06:30.520 --> 03:06:33.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to, as it is, asr-004832 03:06:34.320 --> 03:06:41.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they had enough problems, as it is, asr-004833 03:06:43.160 --> 03:06:48.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na magkaroon pa ng view na may political persecution dito. asr-004834 03:06:48.780 --> 03:06:50.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Your people did not just inspect, ha? asr-004835 03:06:50.920 --> 03:06:52.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They interviewed our employees. asr-004836 03:06:52.860 --> 03:06:59.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, do you think ordinary security guard, asr-004837 03:07:00.020 --> 03:07:01.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung bantay nung rides, asr-004838 03:07:02.300 --> 03:07:04.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung mga naglilinis ng banyo, asr-004839 03:07:05.180 --> 03:07:06.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung all of them there, asr-004840 03:07:06.340 --> 03:07:07.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: do you think they could answer asr-004841 03:07:07.720 --> 03:07:10.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether may cistern kami doon, asr-004842 03:07:11.040 --> 03:07:13.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether merong poso negro, asr-004843 03:07:13.780 --> 03:07:16.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether saan nagtatapon ng basura? asr-004844 03:07:17.260 --> 03:07:18.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Do you think they could answer that? asr-004845 03:07:20.980 --> 03:07:21.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, Director. asr-004846 03:07:21.860 --> 03:07:25.740 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Yes po. Usually po, pag-inspection na good senator, asr-004847 03:07:25.900 --> 03:07:29.740 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: we coordinate with the pollution control officer. asr-004848 03:07:30.240 --> 03:07:31.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You did not nga eh. asr-004849 03:07:31.340 --> 03:07:31.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Opo. asr-004850 03:07:31.860 --> 03:07:33.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, the same thing with LLDA. asr-004851 03:07:33.460 --> 03:07:34.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They keep going back. asr-004852 03:07:34.860 --> 03:07:35.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They never asked us. asr-004853 03:07:36.760 --> 03:07:38.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, that's why when I start asking questions, asr-004854 03:07:38.660 --> 03:07:39.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ang sagot para, asr-004855 03:07:39.560 --> 03:07:40.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sagot sa akin ng PRA, asr-004856 03:07:41.000 --> 03:07:42.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ko alam, di ko alam, di ko alam. asr-004857 03:07:43.040 --> 03:07:45.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sagot sa akin ni Secretary Vince Dizon in my office, asr-004858 03:07:45.840 --> 03:07:46.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: did you know this? asr-004859 03:07:46.540 --> 03:07:47.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ko alam. asr-004860 03:07:47.080 --> 03:07:47.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you know this? asr-004861 03:07:47.640 --> 03:07:48.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ko alam. asr-004862 03:07:48.180 --> 03:07:48.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you know this? asr-004863 03:07:48.640 --> 03:07:49.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ko alam. asr-004864 03:07:49.140 --> 03:07:49.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O. asr-004865 03:07:50.520 --> 03:07:51.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero pag nag-i-inspection, asr-004866 03:07:51.860 --> 03:07:54.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala sa inyong gusto magtanong sa tamang mga tao. asr-004867 03:07:57.940 --> 03:07:59.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pwede namin iharap lahat ng tao, asr-004868 03:07:59.720 --> 03:08:00.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pati yung mga consultants, asr-004869 03:08:01.400 --> 03:08:03.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: para malaman niyo kung anong problema. asr-004870 03:08:04.320 --> 03:08:04.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? asr-004871 03:08:05.380 --> 03:08:07.920 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Mag-co-coordinate po kami, Mr. Senator, asr-004872 03:08:08.080 --> 03:08:08.360 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: sa office po niya. asr-004873 03:08:08.360 --> 03:08:09.280 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Actually, Madam Chair, asr-004874 03:08:09.380 --> 03:08:10.580 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: can I get a straight answer? asr-004875 03:08:10.720 --> 03:08:12.100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why did you not coordinate? asr-004876 03:08:12.520 --> 03:08:13.260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: If it's pollution, asr-004877 03:08:13.480 --> 03:08:14.820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: they have a pollution officer, asr-004878 03:08:14.980 --> 03:08:15.420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: tama ba? asr-004879 03:08:16.060 --> 03:08:17.740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why are you talking to the park maintenance asr-004880 03:08:17.740 --> 03:08:18.540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: if I think, asr-004881 03:08:18.900 --> 03:08:19.500 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: siguro naman, asr-004882 03:08:19.880 --> 03:08:20.300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Secretary, asr-004883 03:08:20.500 --> 03:08:21.840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: beyond naman yung walis-walis, asr-004884 03:08:21.860 --> 03:08:24.280 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: lang ng mga patay na dahon asr-004885 03:08:24.280 --> 03:08:25.340 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng tinitingnan niyo doon. asr-004886 03:08:25.440 --> 03:08:26.360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, did you coordinate asr-004887 03:08:26.360 --> 03:08:27.420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: with the proper officers? asr-004888 03:08:27.760 --> 03:08:29.060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Good, Madam Senator. asr-004889 03:08:29.520 --> 03:08:31.200 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: I think I was informed asr-004890 03:08:31.200 --> 03:08:32.360 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: that the Senro, asr-004891 03:08:33.040 --> 03:08:34.360 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: at saka po yung City Park asr-004892 03:08:34.360 --> 03:08:35.900 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: and Recreational Office, asr-004893 03:08:36.580 --> 03:08:37.540 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: I were also, asr-004894 03:08:37.660 --> 03:08:40.540 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: na-informed po sila. asr-004895 03:08:40.800 --> 03:08:41.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi sila na-informed, ma'am. asr-004896 03:08:41.920 --> 03:08:43.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They showed themselves there. asr-004897 03:08:43.760 --> 03:08:46.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya yung staff lang ng Senro na nandun. asr-004898 03:08:46.880 --> 03:08:47.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Parang sa inyo po, di ba? asr-004899 03:08:48.060 --> 03:08:49.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May mga divisions kayo. asr-004900 03:08:49.260 --> 03:08:49.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, hindi pwedeng sabihin, asr-004901 03:08:49.980 --> 03:08:51.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ay, nandun pala yung isang staff ng, asr-004902 03:08:51.860 --> 03:08:53.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ah, Forest Bureau. asr-004903 03:08:53.140 --> 03:08:53.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alika, anong, asr-004904 03:08:54.040 --> 03:08:55.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kamusta ba, Forest, sa inyo? asr-004905 03:08:56.080 --> 03:08:56.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? asr-004906 03:08:56.920 --> 03:08:57.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ganun. asr-004907 03:08:57.540 --> 03:08:58.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May mga head yun. asr-004908 03:08:58.520 --> 03:09:00.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May mga nakakaalam nun. asr-004909 03:09:00.640 --> 03:09:01.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Do you know that half of that asr-004910 03:09:01.720 --> 03:09:02.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is still under construction? asr-004911 03:09:04.360 --> 03:09:04.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: May know. asr-004912 03:09:04.940 --> 03:09:05.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And, Attorney Janice, asr-004913 03:09:06.280 --> 03:09:08.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the Chair would like to suggest asr-004914 03:09:08.260 --> 03:09:09.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at this point in time asr-004915 03:09:09.480 --> 03:09:13.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: that EMBNCR and LLDA asr-004916 03:09:13.240 --> 03:09:15.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: should submit in writing asr-004917 03:09:15.140 --> 03:09:17.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: your responses to the questions asr-004918 03:09:17.700 --> 03:09:20.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: raised by Minority Leader asr-004919 03:09:20.300 --> 03:09:21.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: and Senator Pia. asr-004920 03:09:21.860 --> 03:09:23.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, about this topic asr-004921 03:09:23.520 --> 03:09:26.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: before, before we go into, ah, asr-004922 03:09:26.120 --> 03:09:26.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: plenary debate. asr-004923 03:09:26.800 --> 03:09:27.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you, ma'am. asr-004924 03:09:27.600 --> 03:09:28.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Just on that, asr-004925 03:09:28.420 --> 03:09:30.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I just want to show a short video lang. asr-004926 03:09:30.800 --> 03:09:31.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes. asr-004927 03:09:31.260 --> 03:09:32.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And, and then one question, yeah. asr-004928 03:09:32.980 --> 03:09:33.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: One minute, one minute and a half. asr-004929 03:09:33.860 --> 03:09:34.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please. asr-004930 03:09:34.360 --> 03:09:36.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Because we would also like to tackle asr-004931 03:09:36.180 --> 03:09:37.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: about five other agencies. asr-004932 03:09:38.520 --> 03:09:40.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, important issues as well, asr-004933 03:09:40.460 --> 03:09:41.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: like this one. asr-004934 03:09:41.220 --> 03:09:42.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, the video, please, ah, asr-004935 03:09:43.800 --> 03:09:44.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ah, tech. asr-004949 03:10:21.800 --> 03:10:33.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: We don't have to finish it. asr-004950 03:10:33.360 --> 03:10:34.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This is my question, GM. asr-004951 03:10:35.580 --> 03:10:36.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: GM, eto yung now. asr-004952 03:10:37.840 --> 03:10:39.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nakita mo ba yung pictures ng Laguna asr-004953 03:10:39.440 --> 03:10:40.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lake before? asr-004954 03:10:42.560 --> 03:10:43.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mike, no, please, sir. asr-004955 03:10:47.960 --> 03:10:48.480 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yeah. asr-004956 03:10:48.840 --> 03:10:50.080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ang alam ko, agricultural asr-004957 03:10:50.080 --> 03:10:51.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: before. Okay. Have you seen asr-004958 03:10:51.920 --> 03:10:52.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lupang-ariyanda? asr-004959 03:10:54.680 --> 03:10:55.360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: May mga asr-004960 03:10:55.360 --> 03:10:57.000 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: matagal na po eh. asr-004961 03:10:57.240 --> 03:10:59.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero alam mong swamp land yun? asr-004962 03:10:59.280 --> 03:11:01.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na tinambakan ng basura. asr-004963 03:11:01.320 --> 03:11:02.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos nung naku-nuna, siyempre, asr-004964 03:11:02.660 --> 03:11:04.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we have to help people there. asr-004965 03:11:05.740 --> 03:11:08.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So this is my point, sir. asr-004966 03:11:08.540 --> 03:11:09.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Every time DPWH asr-004967 03:11:09.940 --> 03:11:12.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: does a landing area asr-004968 03:11:12.100 --> 03:11:13.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: like yung LLRN mo, asr-004969 03:11:14.040 --> 03:11:15.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: every time they build a road, asr-004970 03:11:15.660 --> 03:11:17.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they have a few na manggagawa who put asr-004971 03:11:17.620 --> 03:11:19.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: cuts. Some of them asr-004972 03:11:19.560 --> 03:11:22.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: don't leave. Then magkakasindikato, asr-004973 03:11:22.160 --> 03:11:22.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then puno na yun. asr-004974 03:11:23.600 --> 03:11:25.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ganun ang isura ng Lakeshore before asr-004975 03:11:25.400 --> 03:11:27.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taguig started advocating asr-004976 03:11:27.780 --> 03:11:30.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa DPWH over three administrations. asr-004977 03:11:31.140 --> 03:11:31.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Aquino, asr-004978 03:11:31.920 --> 03:11:33.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Duterte, Marcos. asr-004979 03:11:33.640 --> 03:11:35.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi to bago. Tatlong asr-004980 03:11:35.420 --> 03:11:37.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: administration na to. And it's not cheap. asr-004981 03:11:37.780 --> 03:11:39.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's not easy. There's a lot asr-004982 03:11:39.680 --> 03:11:41.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of pains. There's a lot of asr-004983 03:11:41.000 --> 03:11:43.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: safeguarding. There's a lot of things that asr-004984 03:11:43.500 --> 03:11:45.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have to be done asr-004985 03:11:45.120 --> 03:11:47.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: regarding that. If we didn't asr-004986 03:11:47.600 --> 03:11:48.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have that, asr-004987 03:11:49.560 --> 03:11:51.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: panay informal settlers yung asr-004988 03:11:51.440 --> 03:11:53.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nandyan. I had this discussion asr-004989 03:11:53.420 --> 03:11:54.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with Neric Acosta, asr-004990 03:11:55.340 --> 03:11:57.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a good friend, kabatch namin ni chairman asr-004991 03:11:57.400 --> 03:11:59.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Congress. He asr-004992 03:11:59.360 --> 03:12:01.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: was with a group asr-004993 03:12:01.580 --> 03:12:03.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of LLD asr-004994 03:12:03.240 --> 03:12:05.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lawyers. Sabi na, sir, asr-004995 03:12:05.440 --> 03:12:07.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we can't allow development. Sabi ko, asr-004996 03:12:07.400 --> 03:12:09.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit? Eh yung loan nyo nakalagay development. asr-004997 03:12:11.220 --> 03:12:13.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So sabi ko, you choose, Neric. asr-004998 03:12:15.140 --> 03:12:15.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Informal asr-004999 03:12:15.740 --> 03:12:17.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: settlers or may itatayo. asr-005000 03:12:18.780 --> 03:12:19.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: All around, asr-005001 03:12:19.560 --> 03:12:21.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: except for asr-005002 03:12:21.480 --> 03:12:22.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anguno, Binyan, asr-005003 03:12:23.460 --> 03:12:25.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: except for parts of asr-005004 03:12:25.020 --> 03:12:27.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taytay, et cetera, panay asr-005005 03:12:27.260 --> 03:12:28.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: informal settlers. asr-005006 03:12:29.560 --> 03:12:31.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero dun sa amin na mga asr-005007 03:12:31.140 --> 03:12:33.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagpundar, kami asr-005008 03:12:33.500 --> 03:12:35.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pa masama ngayon. asr-005009 03:12:35.500 --> 03:12:36.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So ito lang last question, sir. asr-005010 03:12:37.900 --> 03:12:39.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two weeks ago, may lawyers meeting, asr-005011 03:12:39.580 --> 03:12:40.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lahat ng lawyers ng LLD. asr-005012 03:12:41.920 --> 03:12:43.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Were you informed of that? asr-005013 03:12:43.480 --> 03:12:45.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi. Kayo, ma'am, were you there? asr-005014 03:12:46.880 --> 03:12:47.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Can you ask asr-005015 03:12:47.560 --> 03:12:49.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: your lawyers? Nag-meeting silang lahat? asr-005016 03:12:49.560 --> 03:12:50.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: With one agenda. asr-005017 03:12:51.880 --> 03:12:53.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Paano kasuhan ang city officials asr-005018 03:12:53.680 --> 03:12:54.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng Taguig? asr-005019 03:12:56.360 --> 03:12:57.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Maliit mundo natin, ma'am. asr-005020 03:12:58.140 --> 03:12:59.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nga, kumpanyera-kumpanyero asr-005021 03:12:59.540 --> 03:13:00.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tawagan natin, diba? asr-005022 03:13:01.240 --> 03:13:02.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nag-meeting. So, Mr. Secretary, asr-005023 03:13:03.720 --> 03:13:04.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may MOA, asr-005024 03:13:06.060 --> 03:13:06.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi sinabmit, asr-005025 03:13:07.860 --> 03:13:09.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinigil lahat ng meetings, asr-005026 03:13:10.440 --> 03:13:11.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: secret inspections, asr-005027 03:13:12.440 --> 03:13:13.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: no coordination, asr-005028 03:13:13.880 --> 03:13:15.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and then may meeting, paano kasuhan? asr-005029 03:13:16.320 --> 03:13:17.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: To my knowledge, asr-005030 03:13:17.600 --> 03:13:19.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there's no utos from Malacanang to do. asr-005031 03:13:19.560 --> 03:13:21.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I don't want to blame anyone. asr-005032 03:13:22.420 --> 03:13:22.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? asr-005033 03:13:23.080 --> 03:13:25.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung may dapat kasuhan, go ahead, kasuhan nyo. asr-005034 03:13:25.740 --> 03:13:26.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? But, asr-005035 03:13:27.740 --> 03:13:29.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I thought, we're here to look asr-005036 03:13:29.520 --> 03:13:31.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for a way forward. So, yun yung tanong ko, asr-005037 03:13:32.180 --> 03:13:33.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: maybe kay Yusek Jonas. asr-005038 03:13:33.480 --> 03:13:35.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yusek, can the city submit asr-005039 03:13:35.320 --> 03:13:37.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the MOA directly to the asr-005040 03:13:37.700 --> 03:13:39.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: board? And can the city asr-005041 03:13:39.640 --> 03:13:41.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: officials have a dialogue asr-005042 03:13:41.840 --> 03:13:43.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with the board para magkaliwanagan asr-005043 03:13:43.740 --> 03:13:44.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if asr-005044 03:13:44.120 --> 03:13:46.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the GM asr-005045 03:13:46.400 --> 03:13:49.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is entertaining pressures or whatever? asr-005046 03:13:49.560 --> 03:13:51.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then, at least, maybe the board will not? asr-005047 03:13:53.020 --> 03:13:55.400 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: Sir, pinagawa namin doon, asr-005048 03:13:55.640 --> 03:13:57.840 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: Mr. Senators, that if the document asr-005049 03:13:57.840 --> 03:13:59.900 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: will be submitted directly to the board, asr-005050 03:14:00.360 --> 03:14:01.460 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: we will refer it to the asr-005051 03:14:01.460 --> 03:14:03.560 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: immediately for reacts or comments of the asr-005052 03:14:04.400 --> 03:14:05.560 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: LDA, asr-005053 03:14:06.760 --> 03:14:08.060 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: and then with timelines po yun. asr-005054 03:14:08.120 --> 03:14:10.120 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: And then, we can call a special meeting asr-005055 03:14:10.120 --> 03:14:11.880 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: specially to discuss this. asr-005056 03:14:11.880 --> 03:14:14.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you for that. And again, no special favors. asr-005057 03:14:14.260 --> 03:14:15.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, anong best for the lake? asr-005058 03:14:16.240 --> 03:14:17.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then, Sec, can I asr-005059 03:14:17.740 --> 03:14:19.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: just point person lang? asr-005060 03:14:19.560 --> 03:14:21.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: We need any documents from asr-005061 03:14:21.000 --> 03:14:23.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether NCR, LLDA, para lang asr-005062 03:14:23.760 --> 03:14:25.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we just don't get the asr-005063 03:14:25.700 --> 03:14:27.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: go around and you've always been asr-005064 03:14:27.640 --> 03:14:28.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: straightforward with us. asr-005065 03:14:29.760 --> 03:14:31.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Madam Chair, Yusek Jonas, asr-005066 03:14:31.640 --> 03:14:32.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: thank you. asr-005067 03:14:33.040 --> 03:14:34.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Madam Chair, thank you for the invitation. asr-005068 03:14:34.540 --> 03:14:35.620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you, Mayno. asr-005069 03:14:35.960 --> 03:14:39.080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I won't ask any more questions. asr-005070 03:14:39.440 --> 03:14:40.820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I will just submit if that's okay. asr-005071 03:14:40.820 --> 03:14:41.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please. asr-005072 03:14:41.680 --> 03:14:44.040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I have a very good relationship with the Secretary asr-005073 03:14:44.040 --> 03:14:46.460 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and his team. Yung mga questions ko naman, asr-005074 03:14:46.560 --> 03:14:48.260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: mga follow-up lang naman doon sa mga asr-005075 03:14:48.260 --> 03:14:48.760 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: matatagpon. asr-005076 03:14:49.560 --> 03:14:51.620 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Matagal ko ng concerns. So, I'll just submit it asr-005077 03:14:51.620 --> 03:14:53.780 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and then I can probably just ask for a briefing, asr-005078 03:14:54.280 --> 03:14:56.140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Madam Chair. And I'll also let you know asr-005079 03:14:56.140 --> 03:14:57.900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: what those questions are kasi baka asr-005080 03:14:57.900 --> 03:14:59.300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: malamang aligned naman tayo eh. asr-005081 03:14:59.400 --> 03:15:00.000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Like, I was listening. asr-005082 03:15:00.000 --> 03:15:02.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: a lot of your questions on the asr-005083 03:15:02.520 --> 03:15:04.760 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: preparations for El Nino, yung water. asr-005084 03:15:05.160 --> 03:15:06.480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: By the way, everyone, hindi ko asr-005085 03:15:06.480 --> 03:15:07.880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: kayo titigilan sa tubig kasi asr-005086 03:15:07.880 --> 03:15:10.460 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: International Water Day is asr-005087 03:15:10.460 --> 03:15:11.580 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: my birthday, okay? asr-005088 03:15:12.140 --> 03:15:14.540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I always make asr-005089 03:15:14.540 --> 03:15:16.020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: a privileged speech, if you recall, asr-005090 03:15:16.200 --> 03:15:18.360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Chairperson, kasi nga, natataon yan na asr-005091 03:15:18.360 --> 03:15:20.260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: birthday ko and it's a good time to get asr-005092 03:15:20.260 --> 03:15:22.640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: updates. asr-005093 03:15:23.340 --> 03:15:24.680 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I'll only emphasize lang, asr-005094 03:15:24.820 --> 03:15:26.480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: women and environment, there's a special asr-005095 03:15:26.480 --> 03:15:28.640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: concern of ours with the Chairperson. asr-005096 03:15:28.640 --> 03:15:30.740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And earlier, pero when you were asr-005097 03:15:30.740 --> 03:15:32.560 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: calling more people to speak, parang medyo asr-005098 03:15:32.560 --> 03:15:34.320 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: napansin ko, Secretary, medyo karamihan asr-005099 03:15:34.320 --> 03:15:36.900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: mga lalaki, but I think you have a lot of other asr-005100 03:15:36.900 --> 03:15:38.260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: staff na ano. asr-005101 03:15:39.340 --> 03:15:39.920 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: It's just asr-005102 03:15:39.920 --> 03:15:42.480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: like, nung pagkita ko, and asr-005103 03:15:42.480 --> 03:15:44.720 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I'm not saying that the men are not equally asr-005104 03:15:44.720 --> 03:15:46.340 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: or, you know, asr-005105 03:15:46.600 --> 03:15:48.440 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: you all deserve to be there, asr-005106 03:15:48.900 --> 03:15:50.180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: but when asr-005107 03:15:50.180 --> 03:15:52.800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: we just want to make sure that there's enough representation asr-005108 03:15:52.800 --> 03:15:54.640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: because a lot of the issues affect asr-005109 03:15:54.640 --> 03:15:56.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: women and you need to hear the women's voice asr-005110 03:15:56.520 --> 03:15:58.540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: in the room. And 5% ng reminder asr-005111 03:15:58.540 --> 03:16:00.380 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ko lang sa lahat ng agency, 5% ng asr-005112 03:16:00.380 --> 03:16:02.300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: budget nyo, kailangan napupunta sa asr-005113 03:16:02.300 --> 03:16:04.240 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: women. So, anyway, Secretary, asr-005114 03:16:04.380 --> 03:16:06.360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: before you answer, my asr-005115 03:16:06.360 --> 03:16:08.000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: one and only statement is this. asr-005116 03:16:09.840 --> 03:16:10.540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I think asr-005117 03:16:10.540 --> 03:16:12.400 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: it's very clear from the discussion we asr-005118 03:16:12.400 --> 03:16:14.440 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: had in the past hour asr-005119 03:16:14.440 --> 03:16:16.400 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: that there asr-005120 03:16:16.400 --> 03:16:17.060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: are a lot of asr-005121 03:16:17.060 --> 03:16:20.100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: things that have been said, asr-005122 03:16:20.280 --> 03:16:22.400 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: have been published, actions that have asr-005123 03:16:22.400 --> 03:16:23.040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: been taken, asr-005124 03:16:24.100 --> 03:16:26.300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: driven by some asr-005125 03:16:26.300 --> 03:16:28.080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: other purpose other than clearly asr-005126 03:16:28.080 --> 03:16:28.500 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: just asr-005127 03:16:28.540 --> 03:16:30.380 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: trying to find out what we can do asr-005128 03:16:30.380 --> 03:16:32.320 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to better serve the country, asr-005129 03:16:32.460 --> 03:16:33.980 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to better work together asr-005130 03:16:33.980 --> 03:16:36.480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: national asr-005131 03:16:36.480 --> 03:16:38.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: government and local government. Kung hindi asr-005132 03:16:38.520 --> 03:16:40.280 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: pa natin kayang aminin yun, ang laki na asr-005133 03:16:40.280 --> 03:16:42.400 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng problema natin. Because a whole asr-005134 03:16:42.400 --> 03:16:44.180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: hour was taken up asr-005135 03:16:44.180 --> 03:16:46.080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to discuss these things, no, with asr-005136 03:16:46.080 --> 03:16:48.420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: the patience of the chairperson. asr-005137 03:16:48.740 --> 03:16:48.940 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, asr-005138 03:16:49.680 --> 03:16:52.480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I need to say asr-005139 03:16:52.480 --> 03:16:54.360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: that when we allow asr-005140 03:16:54.360 --> 03:16:56.820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: government agencies to be weaponized, asr-005141 03:16:56.820 --> 03:16:59.060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: against certain asr-005142 03:16:59.060 --> 03:17:01.040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: people, also in asr-005143 03:17:01.040 --> 03:17:03.080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: government, certain private asr-005144 03:17:03.080 --> 03:17:04.820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: individuals, certain LGUs, asr-005145 03:17:05.940 --> 03:17:07.040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: we should all asr-005146 03:17:07.040 --> 03:17:08.500 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: take responsibility for that. asr-005147 03:17:09.460 --> 03:17:10.940 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because this is what happens, asr-005148 03:17:11.040 --> 03:17:12.960 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: it breaks down our systems. asr-005149 03:17:13.800 --> 03:17:15.020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Ang ganda na ng mga sistema asr-005150 03:17:15.020 --> 03:17:16.800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: natin. It will break it down asr-005151 03:17:16.800 --> 03:17:18.700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to the point that it may be asr-005152 03:17:18.700 --> 03:17:19.460 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: irreparable. asr-005153 03:17:20.620 --> 03:17:22.060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I ask each of you, asr-005154 03:17:22.940 --> 03:17:25.000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: there are good, hardworking people asr-005155 03:17:25.000 --> 03:17:26.800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: everywhere. Many of you, I will asr-005156 03:17:26.820 --> 03:17:29.180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: assume, as I always assume, asr-005157 03:17:29.900 --> 03:17:31.060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: are honest, good, asr-005158 03:17:31.180 --> 03:17:33.120 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: hardworking people. Do not asr-005159 03:17:33.120 --> 03:17:35.220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: allow your offices to be weaponized. asr-005160 03:17:36.700 --> 03:17:37.460 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Do not allow. asr-005161 03:17:38.240 --> 03:17:39.100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Do not allow asr-005162 03:17:39.100 --> 03:17:40.660 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: your team to confront asr-005163 03:17:40.660 --> 03:17:42.840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: average employees and asr-005164 03:17:42.840 --> 03:17:45.040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: come to conclusions that you asr-005165 03:17:45.040 --> 03:17:47.140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: could easily ask the proper asr-005166 03:17:47.140 --> 03:17:48.040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: officers about. asr-005167 03:17:50.700 --> 03:17:52.960 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: We're better than this, dear asr-005168 03:17:52.960 --> 03:17:55.020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: colleagues. You are our colleagues in government asr-005169 03:17:55.020 --> 03:17:56.800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: service. Let's just do it. asr-005170 03:17:56.800 --> 03:17:57.300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Let's do our job. asr-005171 03:17:58.700 --> 03:18:00.120 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Sana po yung mga public asr-005172 03:18:00.120 --> 03:18:02.680 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: releases, alam din ng mga heads asr-005173 03:18:02.680 --> 03:18:04.660 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng mga various agencies asr-005174 03:18:04.660 --> 03:18:06.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and yung fair lang. asr-005175 03:18:07.040 --> 03:18:08.460 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Mr. GM, pwede ho ba? asr-005176 03:18:10.220 --> 03:18:11.700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I leave it up to you. asr-005177 03:18:12.280 --> 03:18:14.760 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Dagdagan nyo pa kung anong gusto nyo sabihin doon. asr-005178 03:18:15.480 --> 03:18:16.900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Tanggalin nyo kung may kulang asr-005179 03:18:16.900 --> 03:18:17.240 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: doon. asr-005180 03:18:18.860 --> 03:18:20.560 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because information is power. asr-005181 03:18:21.280 --> 03:18:22.520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: No less than WHO asr-005182 03:18:22.520 --> 03:18:24.740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: said at the height of COVID that one of asr-005183 03:18:24.740 --> 03:18:26.340 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: the solutions is communication. asr-005184 03:18:26.800 --> 03:18:28.620 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, if you will allow your agencies asr-005185 03:18:28.620 --> 03:18:30.740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to be used to communicate asr-005186 03:18:30.740 --> 03:18:32.820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: the wrong information, then we asr-005187 03:18:32.820 --> 03:18:34.080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: are all party to this problem. asr-005188 03:18:35.060 --> 03:18:36.360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, sana ayus-ayusin natin. asr-005189 03:18:37.120 --> 03:18:38.420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you so much, Madam Chairperson. asr-005190 03:18:39.020 --> 03:18:40.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you too, Senator Pia. asr-005191 03:18:41.120 --> 03:18:42.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. Pagpatuloy, asr-005192 03:18:43.140 --> 03:18:43.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: did you want to say something? asr-005193 03:18:43.880 --> 03:18:46.880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I just wanted to say on the point earlier asr-005194 03:18:46.880 --> 03:18:48.280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: raised by asr-005195 03:18:48.280 --> 03:18:49.240 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Senator Allan, asr-005196 03:18:49.900 --> 03:18:52.780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: let me assure the committee asr-005197 03:18:52.780 --> 03:18:54.820 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and Senator Allan that moving forward asr-005198 03:18:54.820 --> 03:18:56.780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we will ensure the proper coordination asr-005199 03:18:56.800 --> 03:18:59.020 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: is done for any activity asr-005200 03:18:59.020 --> 03:19:00.500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that will be asr-005201 03:19:00.500 --> 03:19:02.080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: done in the LGU. asr-005202 03:19:03.160 --> 03:19:04.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Madam Chair, no surprise asr-005203 03:19:04.960 --> 03:19:06.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and may reason, go ahead, asr-005204 03:19:06.480 --> 03:19:08.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi no one is above the law. asr-005205 03:19:08.460 --> 03:19:10.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm just saying, just be fair. asr-005206 03:19:11.420 --> 03:19:12.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And tama si asr-005207 03:19:12.900 --> 03:19:14.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Pia na sa water, asr-005208 03:19:15.320 --> 03:19:16.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the ladies are doing a better job asr-005209 03:19:16.960 --> 03:19:18.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but pagbigyan nyo na, they have to keep asr-005210 03:19:18.960 --> 03:19:20.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bringing up kasi the issue is just asr-005211 03:19:20.880 --> 03:19:21.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: too big. asr-005212 03:19:23.180 --> 03:19:24.640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Thank you, Madam Chair. asr-005213 03:19:24.640 --> 03:19:25.620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We'll remember that. asr-005214 03:19:26.800 --> 03:19:28.400 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, March 22 asr-005215 03:19:28.400 --> 03:19:29.300 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: is the asr-005216 03:19:29.300 --> 03:19:32.780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: on the point asr-005217 03:19:32.780 --> 03:19:34.440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of being gender asr-005218 03:19:34.440 --> 03:19:35.480 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: sensitive, asr-005219 03:19:36.380 --> 03:19:38.840 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yusek Anate is the head of our gender development asr-005220 03:19:38.840 --> 03:19:40.600 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and the females asr-005221 03:19:40.600 --> 03:19:42.500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: outweigh or outnumber asr-005222 03:19:42.500 --> 03:19:43.820 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: the males by asr-005223 03:19:43.820 --> 03:19:45.200 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: just a few, asr-005224 03:19:45.700 --> 03:19:47.900 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 9,346 asr-005225 03:19:47.900 --> 03:19:50.980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: ang female, 9,294 asr-005226 03:19:50.980 --> 03:19:52.500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: ang male. So there are more females. asr-005227 03:19:52.880 --> 03:19:53.620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And there are a lot in asr-005228 03:19:53.620 --> 03:19:56.580 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: leadership positions actually. asr-005229 03:19:56.800 --> 03:19:57.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you. asr-005230 03:19:57.940 --> 03:19:59.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Secuna. asr-005231 03:19:59.900 --> 03:20:01.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sige, tuloy natin yung asr-005232 03:20:01.280 --> 03:20:03.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa El Nino, asr-005233 03:20:03.280 --> 03:20:04.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kaugnay din ng tubig. asr-005234 03:20:05.380 --> 03:20:07.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So a few other concerns, asr-005235 03:20:07.420 --> 03:20:09.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: MWSS Regulatory asr-005236 03:20:09.800 --> 03:20:11.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Office, LUA, asr-005237 03:20:11.740 --> 03:20:13.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at saka yung NWRB. asr-005238 03:20:14.400 --> 03:20:15.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, doble asr-005239 03:20:15.920 --> 03:20:17.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: talaga po yung pangamba asr-005240 03:20:17.440 --> 03:20:19.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga kababayan natin asr-005241 03:20:19.660 --> 03:20:21.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa epekto ng Super El Nino. asr-005242 03:20:22.020 --> 03:20:23.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I mean, imagine ito na yung pinaka asr-005243 03:20:23.420 --> 03:20:25.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: magiging malakas in the last asr-005244 03:20:25.100 --> 03:20:26.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: half century. asr-005245 03:20:26.800 --> 03:20:28.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, sa mga lugar na ngayon pa lang, asr-005246 03:20:28.460 --> 03:20:30.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: eh, nahaharap na sa water shortages asr-005247 03:20:30.640 --> 03:20:32.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at saka poor service asr-005248 03:20:32.260 --> 03:20:34.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: gaya ng mga lugar na asr-005249 03:20:34.440 --> 03:20:36.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sineserbisyohan asr-005250 03:20:36.580 --> 03:20:37.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ngayon ng asr-005251 03:20:37.700 --> 03:20:40.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: bagong concessionaire dati, asr-005252 03:20:40.380 --> 03:20:41.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung lumang concessionaire. asr-005253 03:20:42.560 --> 03:20:44.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Meron din pong mga private subdivisions, asr-005254 03:20:44.700 --> 03:20:46.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga gated communities asr-005255 03:20:46.220 --> 03:20:48.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na sinerve asr-005256 03:20:48.120 --> 03:20:50.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dati nung lumang concessionaires asr-005257 03:20:50.240 --> 03:20:52.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: o ng bulk water suppliers asr-005258 03:20:52.160 --> 03:20:54.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: in partnership sa real estate asr-005259 03:20:54.520 --> 03:20:56.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: companies. So, yung iba asr-005260 03:20:56.520 --> 03:20:58.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dito, nasa concession areas asr-005261 03:20:58.280 --> 03:21:00.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng Manila Water, pati ng Maynilad. asr-005262 03:21:01.020 --> 03:21:02.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, ano po yung ginagawa asr-005263 03:21:02.540 --> 03:21:04.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa pagkaalam ng MWSSRO? asr-005264 03:21:04.980 --> 03:21:06.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ano pong ginagawa ng mga water asr-005265 03:21:06.280 --> 03:21:07.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: concessionaires asr-005266 03:21:07.300 --> 03:21:10.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: o ng mga water agencies asr-005267 03:21:10.680 --> 03:21:11.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tungkol dito? asr-005268 03:21:12.200 --> 03:21:13.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano na yung mga asr-005269 03:21:13.520 --> 03:21:16.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: served areas na may hinaharap na problema asr-005270 03:21:16.460 --> 03:21:18.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa supply at kalidad asr-005271 03:21:18.460 --> 03:21:19.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: bago pa man asr-005272 03:21:19.860 --> 03:21:22.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tumatama itong Super El Nino? asr-005273 03:21:23.480 --> 03:21:24.460 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Okay. Thank you, asr-005274 03:21:25.180 --> 03:21:25.680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Madam Chair. asr-005275 03:21:25.680 --> 03:21:26.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I'm sorry. asr-005276 03:21:26.520 --> 03:21:27.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I'm sorry, Chief Regulator T. asr-005277 03:21:27.620 --> 03:21:28.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Before you continue, asr-005278 03:21:28.960 --> 03:21:30.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nasa na ba si Ms. Via? asr-005279 03:21:30.960 --> 03:21:32.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung pwede lang i-flash ulit yung slide asr-005280 03:21:32.740 --> 03:21:34.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kanina, yung slide asr-005281 03:21:34.780 --> 03:21:37.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nung may pamagat siyang asr-005282 03:21:37.440 --> 03:21:38.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: spatial risk overlay asr-005283 03:21:38.940 --> 03:21:41.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: identifies 34% asr-005284 03:21:41.600 --> 03:21:43.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: of barangays as priority asr-005285 03:21:43.180 --> 03:21:44.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: intervention zones. asr-005286 03:21:45.360 --> 03:21:47.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, baka pwede nyo rin i-address yung slide asr-005287 03:21:47.300 --> 03:21:49.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na ito, Sir T., asr-005288 03:21:49.100 --> 03:21:51.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa pagsagot sa tanong. asr-005289 03:22:24.000 --> 03:22:25.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ready? asr-005293 03:22:26.520 --> 03:22:28.640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Thank you, Madam Chairperson. asr-005294 03:22:28.640 --> 03:22:49.780 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Yes, based on our report, based on our investigation, we found out that individualized, out of the subdivisions, of the total of 847 in Manila Water, 568 are individualized connections already, and 279 are still on bulk selling. asr-005295 03:22:49.780 --> 03:23:05.800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: For Maynilad customers, 1,351 are individualized, and those are not yet connected is 247 are still under bulk selling. asr-005296 03:23:06.700 --> 03:23:08.540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So those are the figures right now. asr-005297 03:23:09.800 --> 03:23:19.760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Actually, there is an existing plan right now to coordinate with both Manila Water and Maynilad to require them to individualize as much as possible. asr-005298 03:23:19.780 --> 03:23:31.440 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: However, they are very limited by the situation of the ground, particularly the rights of the private ownership who will refuse to turn it over. asr-005299 03:23:32.060 --> 03:23:48.720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So those are the biggest issue that the two concessions normally face, that the private developer will not turn it over to them, or that the quality of the pipes and the infrastructure developed by the private developer is not up to speed. asr-005300 03:23:48.740 --> 03:23:49.500 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So. asr-005301 03:23:49.780 --> 03:23:52.500 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: But there are always processing right now. asr-005302 03:23:53.300 --> 03:24:04.680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: There are a lot of individual applications right now that are being reviewed, that are being ongoing individualization, and a lot of are under negotiations or under investigations. asr-005303 03:24:05.900 --> 03:24:18.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa 34% ng baranggays natin na priority intervention zones, nalolocate nyo ba dito any of those communities na may ganitong problema as you just described? asr-005304 03:24:19.160 --> 03:24:19.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung paano? asr-005305 03:24:19.780 --> 03:24:22.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano babalansihin or babanggain yung rights of private ownership? asr-005306 03:24:23.320 --> 03:24:27.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tapos yung access sa life-sustaining water ng lahat ng baranggay? asr-005307 03:24:27.500 --> 03:24:27.660 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Yes. asr-005308 03:24:27.720 --> 03:24:35.180 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: These are all inside the concession area or limited to Metro Manila and Rizal and province of Cavite. asr-005309 03:24:35.800 --> 03:24:40.540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So the numbers that I have provided, these are all inside that area. asr-005310 03:24:40.540 --> 03:24:49.540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: And I think there's no major issue with regard to connection because majority, the ones that I mentioned that are not individualized, asr-005311 03:24:49.780 --> 03:24:53.980 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: are being serviced by bulk water supply, by Manila Water or Maynilat. asr-005312 03:24:54.260 --> 03:24:55.900 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So water is provided to them. asr-005313 03:24:56.840 --> 03:25:06.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So kahit yung mga area na baka may tension between private ownership of the water tapos yung need, hindi naman po sila kasama dito sa 34% of baranggays? asr-005314 03:25:07.260 --> 03:25:12.620 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I cannot answer that because, again, it's limited only to Metro Manila. asr-005315 03:25:13.040 --> 03:25:16.720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I think majority are outside, the red zones are outside Metro Manila. asr-005316 03:25:16.720 --> 03:25:19.220 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: But again, Madam Chair, asr-005317 03:25:19.780 --> 03:25:27.640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: with regard to the issues of whether or not there were some issues with the HOA, the private developer and the residents, asr-005318 03:25:28.080 --> 03:25:31.520 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I can actually confirm that there are issues. asr-005319 03:25:31.880 --> 03:25:32.720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: There are still issues. asr-005320 03:25:33.100 --> 03:25:38.780 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: However, our hands are quite tied behind our backs. asr-005321 03:25:38.880 --> 03:25:40.240 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: We could not interfere. asr-005322 03:25:40.840 --> 03:25:44.720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Majority of the issues are with the DSUD and there's pending issues there. asr-005323 03:25:44.720 --> 03:25:48.060 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Like for example, there is a recently, there was actually a request for us, asr-005324 03:25:48.280 --> 03:25:49.760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: and we were trying to assist. asr-005325 03:25:49.760 --> 03:25:58.820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: And however, the DSUD came out with a decision that the current board that we are talking to is not the correct board. asr-005326 03:25:59.500 --> 03:26:03.460 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So the original board was retained. asr-005327 03:26:04.100 --> 03:26:08.760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So there was an issue of which HOA association that should be discussing with us. asr-005328 03:26:10.160 --> 03:26:17.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Siguro, sir, before the plenary, you can just double check, if you may, and inform the subcommittee kung meron nga. asr-005329 03:26:17.960 --> 03:26:19.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hopefully, wala. asr-005330 03:26:19.760 --> 03:26:25.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero kung meron nga dito sa communities that we're talking about that fall among the 34%. asr-005331 03:26:25.500 --> 03:26:26.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At least, you don't think so? asr-005332 03:26:26.820 --> 03:26:27.300 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I don't think so. asr-005333 03:26:27.300 --> 03:26:30.260 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Because Metro Manila is always connected. asr-005334 03:26:30.480 --> 03:26:33.300 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Majority are connected by individualized. asr-005335 03:26:34.140 --> 03:26:37.500 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: But in the situation that we're discussing, they're connected by bulk selling. asr-005336 03:26:37.900 --> 03:26:38.700 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So they have bulk water. asr-005337 03:26:38.780 --> 03:26:43.200 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So I don't think they'll be covered by that any drought risk. asr-005338 03:26:43.540 --> 03:26:45.260 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Because they will be provided water. asr-005339 03:26:46.000 --> 03:26:47.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: That's good to know. asr-005340 03:26:47.500 --> 03:26:48.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Of course, asr-005341 03:26:48.960 --> 03:26:49.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga iwan sa atin, asr-005342 03:26:49.760 --> 03:26:55.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: then paano gawa ng paraan yung 34% outside of these better situated areas. asr-005343 03:26:55.160 --> 03:26:56.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero nasa top priorities nyo. asr-005344 03:26:56.880 --> 03:27:02.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And if there's anything that we could follow up with DSUDE, asr-005345 03:27:02.000 --> 03:27:04.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para naman dito sa particular na pinag-uusapan natin, asr-005346 03:27:05.240 --> 03:27:07.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: please let the subcommittee know also. asr-005347 03:27:07.280 --> 03:27:12.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Para if there's anything na pwedeng ipatulong dun sa sponsor naman ng DSUDE budget asr-005348 03:27:12.840 --> 03:27:14.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: by way of problem solving. asr-005349 03:27:15.040 --> 03:27:15.600 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Yes. Noted. asr-005350 03:27:15.600 --> 03:27:16.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Appreciate the detail. asr-005351 03:27:16.060 --> 03:27:16.980 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Noted, Madam Chairman. asr-005352 03:27:17.040 --> 03:27:17.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Alright. Salamat po. asr-005353 03:27:18.520 --> 03:27:19.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Some questions now for the mic. asr-005354 03:27:19.760 --> 03:27:21.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mines and Geosciences Bureau. asr-005355 03:27:22.200 --> 03:27:23.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Dr. MGB. asr-005356 03:27:23.700 --> 03:27:24.120 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Yes, sir. asr-005357 03:27:24.200 --> 03:27:26.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Director Herades. asr-005358 03:27:27.560 --> 03:27:32.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, gaya ng sinimulan kong banggitin, Director, nung briefing natin. asr-005359 03:27:32.980 --> 03:27:38.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Simula po nung 2025, last year, nakatanggap yung opisina ko ng reklamo asr-005360 03:27:38.820 --> 03:27:44.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ukol sa intermittent uncontrolled burning ng wooded areas. asr-005361 03:27:44.540 --> 03:27:48.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Malapit po sa mga nickel mining areas or tenements. asr-005362 03:27:48.340 --> 03:27:53.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Particular, halimbawa sa Manikani Island, sa Giwan, Eastern Samar. asr-005363 03:27:54.000 --> 03:27:56.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At protected area po itong Manikani. asr-005364 03:27:57.100 --> 03:28:01.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, ano po yung formal na action so far or plano ng MGB asr-005365 03:28:01.340 --> 03:28:08.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para maiwasan yung forest fire doon sa Manikani at sa iba pang wooded areas sa ating bansa? asr-005366 03:28:11.180 --> 03:28:16.480 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Meron pong program ang mga mining company na magkaroon po ng emergency response team. asr-005367 03:28:16.480 --> 03:28:22.820 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Pinasama na po namin sa kanila ang training on prevention of forest fires asr-005368 03:28:22.820 --> 03:28:28.000 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: and training ng mga on actual action when forest fires happen. asr-005369 03:28:29.080 --> 03:28:36.420 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: At kasi po ang natural vegetation po ng mga nickel mines, asr-005370 03:28:37.140 --> 03:28:42.880 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: madali pong matuyo sila, lalong-lalo na sa panahon po ng summer. asr-005371 03:28:43.320 --> 03:28:45.880 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: So, meron pong mga accidental. asr-005372 03:28:46.480 --> 03:28:57.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Either po na incidental yung nagtatapon po ng post or talaga pong nag-spontaneous fire po asr-005373 03:28:57.520 --> 03:29:03.620 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung mga dried up mga vegetation doon sa area. asr-005374 03:29:03.760 --> 03:29:07.760 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: So, we included po sa training po ng mga ERT ng mga mining company asr-005375 03:29:07.760 --> 03:29:14.000 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung action on forest fires po sa mga emergency response team nila po. asr-005376 03:29:14.600 --> 03:29:16.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero bukod po sa mining, asr-005377 03:29:16.240 --> 03:29:17.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga mining companies mismo, asr-005378 03:29:17.720 --> 03:29:27.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ang MGB, ano po yung action ninyo or plano bilang kayo yung may regulatory function sa mga kumpanyang ito? asr-005379 03:29:27.140 --> 03:29:32.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Yes po. Sinasama po namin sila sa mga work program po na ina-approve namin asr-005380 03:29:32.520 --> 03:29:37.000 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: which is being committed by the mining company to for the implementation po. asr-005381 03:29:40.000 --> 03:29:42.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. I can appreciate that already, Director. asr-005382 03:29:42.420 --> 03:29:45.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero baka the Bureau needs to do more. asr-005383 03:29:46.240 --> 03:29:56.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Siyempre, kayo ang mas may interest na mapigilan itong mga forest fires na mining related asr-005384 03:29:56.320 --> 03:29:59.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at lalo na sa mga protected areas kesa pa in all fairness. asr-005385 03:30:00.000 --> 03:30:01.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga kumpanya. Kasi siyempre, asr-005386 03:30:01.880 --> 03:30:03.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung appetite for risk nila, asr-005387 03:30:04.160 --> 03:30:05.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kahit at the risk of forest fire, asr-005388 03:30:05.880 --> 03:30:07.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ay siyempre mas mataas asr-005389 03:30:07.380 --> 03:30:10.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kesa sa MGB, which is the Bureau of the Department asr-005390 03:30:10.040 --> 03:30:11.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: of the Environment pa rin. asr-005391 03:30:19.780 --> 03:30:21.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano po yung gagawin naman asr-005392 03:30:21.760 --> 03:30:23.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng MGB asr-005393 03:30:23.080 --> 03:30:25.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para nga paghandaan yung impact asr-005394 03:30:25.780 --> 03:30:27.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng Super El Niño asr-005395 03:30:27.180 --> 03:30:29.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa major mining sites asr-005396 03:30:29.480 --> 03:30:31.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa bansa at sa mga asr-005397 03:30:31.320 --> 03:30:33.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: komunidad na malapit doon, yung mga mining asr-005398 03:30:33.240 --> 03:30:34.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: affected communities? asr-005399 03:30:35.920 --> 03:30:37.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, will it? asr-005400 03:30:37.560 --> 03:30:38.580 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Yes, Madam Chair, asr-005401 03:30:38.780 --> 03:30:40.660 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Director. Since asr-005402 03:30:40.660 --> 03:30:42.080 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: September 3, asr-005403 03:30:42.240 --> 03:30:44.460 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: 2026, asr-005404 03:30:45.140 --> 03:30:46.960 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: MGB issued po sa mga mining asr-005405 03:30:46.960 --> 03:30:48.620 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: company through the regional offices asr-005406 03:30:48.620 --> 03:30:51.160 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: a memorandum na i-re-focus asr-005407 03:30:51.160 --> 03:30:53.280 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: or re-calibrate asr-005408 03:30:53.280 --> 03:30:54.840 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: po yung mga SDMP nila, asr-005409 03:30:54.840 --> 03:30:56.800 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung Social Development Management asr-005410 03:30:56.800 --> 03:30:59.100 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Plan, yung fund asr-005411 03:30:59.100 --> 03:30:59.460 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: po nila, asr-005412 03:30:59.480 --> 03:31:01.440 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: re-focus po doon sa asr-005413 03:31:01.440 --> 03:31:03.540 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: tinatawag po namin asr-005414 03:31:03.540 --> 03:31:05.200 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: water resources development asr-005415 03:31:05.200 --> 03:31:07.560 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: measures, yung pong asr-005416 03:31:07.560 --> 03:31:08.000 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: mga asr-005417 03:31:08.000 --> 03:31:11.360 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: probable na areas po asr-005418 03:31:11.360 --> 03:31:13.020 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: na maging maapektuhan asr-005419 03:31:13.020 --> 03:31:15.580 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: ng Super El Niño. asr-005420 03:31:16.260 --> 03:31:17.580 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Inaalaw po namin asr-005421 03:31:17.580 --> 03:31:19.680 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: sila to conduct, to implement asr-005422 03:31:19.680 --> 03:31:21.460 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: project water resources development asr-005423 03:31:21.460 --> 03:31:23.360 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: projects like development asr-005424 03:31:23.360 --> 03:31:24.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: of water wells, asr-005425 03:31:24.520 --> 03:31:24.840 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: at asr-005426 03:31:24.840 --> 03:31:28.680 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: solar-powered asr-005427 03:31:28.680 --> 03:31:29.440 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: pumping stations, asr-005428 03:31:29.480 --> 03:31:31.480 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: drainage system, rainwater asr-005429 03:31:31.480 --> 03:31:51.480 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: rainwater harvesting and storage facilities at saka po kung may identified po ang MGB na mga aquifer doon sa area, we encourage po na mag-develop na sila ng mga water wells doon sa area, chargeable po doon sa tinatawag po namin SDMP po ng mga mining companies. asr-005430 03:31:52.060 --> 03:31:53.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Unfortunately, Director, asr-005431 03:31:54.160 --> 03:31:58.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may concern sa mga kababayan natin doon naman sa home on home. asr-005432 03:31:59.480 --> 03:32:01.440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung islang yun, dahil yung asr-005433 03:32:01.440 --> 03:32:03.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mining doon, ang inaalala asr-005434 03:32:03.780 --> 03:32:05.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nila ay compromising or asr-005435 03:32:05.640 --> 03:32:06.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nakaka-apekto asr-005436 03:32:06.980 --> 03:32:08.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mismo sa water supply asr-005437 03:32:08.820 --> 03:32:10.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng isla. asr-005438 03:32:14.360 --> 03:32:15.480 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Kasama po sila asr-005439 03:32:15.480 --> 03:32:17.100 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: doon sa aming, particularly asr-005440 03:32:17.100 --> 03:32:19.240 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: doon sa mga mining asr-005441 03:32:19.240 --> 03:32:21.480 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: company na malalapit asr-005442 03:32:22.040 --> 03:32:22.840 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: sa isa't isa po. asr-005443 03:32:22.840 --> 03:32:24.360 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Kasama po doon sa asr-005444 03:32:24.360 --> 03:32:26.760 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: minomonitor namin doon sa asr-005445 03:32:26.760 --> 03:32:28.720 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung pong asr-005446 03:32:28.720 --> 03:32:30.720 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: pag-implement ng SDMP po nila asr-005447 03:32:30.720 --> 03:32:32.720 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: as part of the asr-005448 03:32:32.720 --> 03:32:35.720 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: action po doon, Super El Niño po. asr-005449 03:32:36.520 --> 03:32:38.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tapos yung Dinagat Islands naman po asr-005450 03:32:38.720 --> 03:32:42.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na may substantial open pit mining ngayon, asr-005451 03:32:42.720 --> 03:32:44.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: vulnerable din po sa tagtuyot. asr-005452 03:32:44.720 --> 03:32:47.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So parang may mga asr-005453 03:32:47.720 --> 03:32:50.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nagko-converge na negative factors. asr-005454 03:32:50.720 --> 03:32:52.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tuyo yung vegetation, asr-005455 03:32:52.720 --> 03:32:56.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may mining, minsan open pit mining pa na substantial. asr-005456 03:32:56.720 --> 03:32:58.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tapos, asr-005457 03:32:58.520 --> 03:33:00.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: okay, may SDMP, may asr-005458 03:33:00.520 --> 03:33:02.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: water resource development measures. asr-005459 03:33:02.520 --> 03:33:04.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero sa ibang area, asr-005460 03:33:04.520 --> 03:33:06.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tulad nga ng Homonhon, asr-005461 03:33:06.520 --> 03:33:09.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: eh, mismo yung water source nila ay asr-005462 03:33:09.520 --> 03:33:11.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: threatened. asr-005463 03:33:13.520 --> 03:33:15.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Isa po doon sa asr-005464 03:33:15.520 --> 03:33:17.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: isa po doon sa tinututukan namin po asr-005465 03:33:17.520 --> 03:33:19.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: sa Homonhon, yung asr-005466 03:33:19.520 --> 03:33:21.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: efekto po ng mining operations sa asr-005467 03:33:21.520 --> 03:33:23.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: water source nila. At asr-005468 03:33:23.520 --> 03:33:25.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: just recently po, we have asr-005469 03:33:25.520 --> 03:33:27.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: sent an investigating team asr-005470 03:33:27.520 --> 03:33:29.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: doon sa area to asr-005471 03:33:29.520 --> 03:33:31.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: study and assess po yung asr-005472 03:33:31.520 --> 03:33:33.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung mining operation asr-005473 03:33:33.520 --> 03:33:36.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: abis-abis po yung asr-005474 03:33:36.520 --> 03:33:38.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung efekto nung operation nila sa asr-005475 03:33:38.520 --> 03:33:40.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: water source po ng community doon sa area po. asr-005476 03:33:40.520 --> 03:33:42.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: We will come up with the asr-005477 03:33:42.520 --> 03:33:44.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: report po sooner po. asr-005478 03:33:44.520 --> 03:33:46.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Katarating lang po nung team. asr-005479 03:33:46.520 --> 03:33:48.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po. Yes sir, bago si asr-005480 03:33:48.520 --> 03:33:50.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Asec Cabalda, pag sinasabi nyo po asr-005481 03:33:50.520 --> 03:33:52.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sooner than later matatapos asr-005482 03:33:52.520 --> 03:33:54.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung report, mga kailan po? asr-005483 03:33:54.520 --> 03:33:56.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: We have some, ah, asr-005484 03:33:56.520 --> 03:33:58.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung report po ipa-finalize po asr-005485 03:33:58.520 --> 03:34:00.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: this week and ah, asr-005486 03:34:00.520 --> 03:34:02.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: ah, it will be asr-005487 03:34:02.520 --> 03:34:04.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: it will be forwarded po sa asr-005488 03:34:04.520 --> 03:34:06.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: sa DNR asr-005489 03:34:06.520 --> 03:34:08.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: for proper implementation po nung asr-005490 03:34:08.520 --> 03:34:10.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: recommendation po ng team. asr-005491 03:34:10.520 --> 03:34:12.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And kung ma-confirm po ninyo yung asr-005492 03:34:12.520 --> 03:34:14.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ah, concerns ng mga kababayan asr-005493 03:34:14.520 --> 03:34:16.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: natin doon sa Homonhon Island na asr-005494 03:34:16.520 --> 03:34:18.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nakaka-compromise, asr-005495 03:34:18.520 --> 03:34:20.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ah, nakaka-efekto nung asr-005496 03:34:20.520 --> 03:34:22.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: masama sa water supply nila, asr-005497 03:34:22.520 --> 03:34:24.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ano yung mga, sa ganung klaseng asr-005498 03:34:24.520 --> 03:34:26.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sitwasyon, like not particular to asr-005499 03:34:26.520 --> 03:34:28.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Homonhon Island lamang, pero pag asr-005500 03:34:28.520 --> 03:34:30.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na-find ng bureau nyo asr-005501 03:34:30.520 --> 03:34:32.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na yung pagmimina asr-005502 03:34:32.520 --> 03:34:34.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ay nakakasama sa water asr-005503 03:34:34.520 --> 03:34:36.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: supply, ano yung mga posibleng asr-005504 03:34:36.520 --> 03:34:38.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ah, recommendations ninyo sa department? asr-005505 03:34:38.520 --> 03:34:40.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Sa experience po asr-005506 03:34:40.520 --> 03:34:42.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: ng MGB ah, we can ah, asr-005507 03:34:42.520 --> 03:34:44.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: we can issue a temporary asr-005508 03:34:44.520 --> 03:34:46.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: suspension of the operation po. asr-005509 03:34:46.520 --> 03:34:48.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Then ah, until asr-005510 03:34:48.520 --> 03:34:50.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: such time that the mining company ah, asr-005511 03:34:50.520 --> 03:34:52.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: ah, came up asr-005512 03:34:52.520 --> 03:34:54.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: with a, come up with a asr-005513 03:34:54.520 --> 03:34:56.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: plan for ah, for the asr-005514 03:34:56.520 --> 03:34:58.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: ah, asr-005515 03:34:58.520 --> 03:35:00.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: for the ah, safe source asr-005516 03:35:00.520 --> 03:35:02.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: nung water supply po nung community. asr-005517 03:35:04.520 --> 03:35:06.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, salamat Director. Pero kung asr-005518 03:35:06.520 --> 03:35:08.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mapag-alaman ninyo na asr-005519 03:35:08.520 --> 03:35:10.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kahit anong SDMP, hindi asr-005520 03:35:10.520 --> 03:35:12.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kayang isecure ng mining asr-005521 03:35:12.520 --> 03:35:14.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: company yung kaligtasan asr-005522 03:35:14.520 --> 03:35:16.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng tubig, has asr-005523 03:35:16.520 --> 03:35:18.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: it ever happened sa bureau nyo asr-005524 03:35:18.520 --> 03:35:20.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or nasa menu ba ng asr-005525 03:35:20.520 --> 03:35:22.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: possible recommendations nyo na asr-005526 03:35:22.520 --> 03:35:24.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: hindi lang temporary suspension asr-005527 03:35:24.520 --> 03:35:26.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kundi permanent cessation asr-005528 03:35:26.520 --> 03:35:28.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mining operations dahil nga asr-005529 03:35:28.520 --> 03:35:30.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nakakasama sa tubig asr-005530 03:35:30.520 --> 03:35:32.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mismo doon. Nangyari na po ba asr-005531 03:35:32.520 --> 03:35:34.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yun or posibleng po bang mangyari yun? asr-005532 03:35:34.520 --> 03:35:36.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Ah, hindi ba po nangyari, but posibleng asr-005533 03:35:36.520 --> 03:35:38.520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: pong mangyari po yun. asr-005534 03:35:38.520 --> 03:35:40.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, that's enough for now no, posibleng asr-005535 03:35:40.520 --> 03:35:42.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mangyari. Ah, hihilingin ko asr-005536 03:35:42.520 --> 03:35:44.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na lang sa Office of the Secretary na kapag asr-005537 03:35:44.520 --> 03:35:46.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na-aprubahan nyo na po yung report asr-005538 03:35:46.520 --> 03:35:48.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kung makahingi din po ng kopya nung asr-005539 03:35:48.520 --> 03:35:50.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: subcommittee, yung subcommittee. Salamat asr-005540 03:35:50.520 --> 03:35:52.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Secretary, salamat asr-005541 03:35:52.520 --> 03:35:54.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Director. Ah yes, of course, ask asr-005542 03:35:54.520 --> 03:35:56.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: about the mining concerns. asr-005543 03:35:56.520 --> 03:35:58.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: Maraming salamat po Madam Chair asr-005544 03:35:58.520 --> 03:36:00.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: with the permission of the Secretary. asr-005545 03:36:00.520 --> 03:36:02.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: Just on the Humonon Island asr-005546 03:36:02.520 --> 03:36:04.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: po, so first asr-005547 03:36:04.520 --> 03:36:06.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: time po nakaroon ng water system asr-005548 03:36:06.520 --> 03:36:08.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: in fact sa Humonon. By asr-005549 03:36:08.520 --> 03:36:10.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: way of a collective project asr-005550 03:36:10.520 --> 03:36:12.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: na pinagpanoan ng asr-005551 03:36:12.520 --> 03:36:14.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: G1 water supply asr-005552 03:36:14.520 --> 03:36:16.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: at ito ay sinuportahan po ng mga mining asr-005553 03:36:16.520 --> 03:36:18.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: companies doon. Kaya for the first time po asr-005554 03:36:18.520 --> 03:36:20.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: meron na pong dumadaloy na asr-005555 03:36:20.520 --> 03:36:22.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: malinis na tubig sa kabuuan ng asr-005556 03:36:22.520 --> 03:36:24.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: Humonon. Ito yung mga bagay po asr-005557 03:36:24.520 --> 03:36:26.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: na nangyayari, hindi lamang tupo sa Humonon. asr-005558 03:36:26.520 --> 03:36:28.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: At sa mga iba pong mga asr-005559 03:36:28.520 --> 03:36:30.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: minahan kung saan asr-005560 03:36:30.520 --> 03:36:32.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: ang tubig ay napaka-kritikal. asr-005561 03:36:32.520 --> 03:36:34.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: Hindi lamang sa operation po, asr-005562 03:36:34.520 --> 03:36:36.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: pati sa mga taong aming asr-005563 03:36:36.520 --> 03:36:38.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: maaaring maistorbo. asr-005564 03:36:38.520 --> 03:36:40.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: Bagay po na binibigyan po namin ng atensyon asr-005565 03:36:40.520 --> 03:36:42.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: na bago kami asr-005566 03:36:42.520 --> 03:36:44.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: gumalaw, sinisiguro asr-005567 03:36:44.520 --> 03:36:46.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: po namin na kung meron man kaming asr-005568 03:36:46.520 --> 03:36:48.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: kumpetensya ang mangyayari sa pagkamit ng asr-005569 03:36:48.520 --> 03:36:50.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: tubig, sinisiguro po namin na asr-005570 03:36:50.520 --> 03:36:52.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: ang net positive water flow asr-005571 03:36:52.520 --> 03:36:54.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: should go to the community rather than asr-005572 03:36:54.520 --> 03:36:56.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: sa mga mining companies. Kaya meron kaming asr-005573 03:36:56.520 --> 03:36:58.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: binatawag ng mga closed circuit asr-005574 03:36:58.520 --> 03:37:00.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: water system para asr-005575 03:37:00.520 --> 03:37:02.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: tuloy-tuloy na tubig na nagagamit. asr-005576 03:37:02.520 --> 03:37:04.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: At kung sakasakali man, dagdag asr-005577 03:37:04.520 --> 03:37:06.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: lang po kung meron nang nauubos asr-005578 03:37:06.520 --> 03:37:08.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: o na-evaporate. Ganun po asr-005579 03:37:08.520 --> 03:37:10.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: ang sistema ang ginagawa po ng mga mining asr-005580 03:37:10.520 --> 03:37:12.520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: companies. asr-005581 03:37:12.520 --> 03:37:14.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat ah, Sec. Of course, sorry Sec asr-005582 03:37:14.520 --> 03:37:16.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: before I acknowledge that. asr-005583 03:37:16.520 --> 03:37:18.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: On the same point, Madam Chair. Actually, asr-005584 03:37:18.520 --> 03:37:20.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: kami po ni asr-005585 03:37:20.520 --> 03:37:22.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: USEC-CP David ang pumunta doon mismo asr-005586 03:37:22.520 --> 03:37:24.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: sa Commonwealth and we spoke to asr-005587 03:37:24.520 --> 03:37:26.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: the different companies asr-005588 03:37:26.520 --> 03:37:28.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and requested asr-005589 03:37:28.520 --> 03:37:30.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: baka makatulong sila sa asr-005590 03:37:30.520 --> 03:37:32.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: water supply asr-005591 03:37:32.520 --> 03:37:34.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: nung island dahil may problema asr-005592 03:37:34.520 --> 03:37:36.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: nga doon. We went there about 2 years ago asr-005593 03:37:36.520 --> 03:37:38.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and they exceeded naman po. asr-005594 03:37:38.520 --> 03:37:40.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Sec. Opo, asr-005595 03:37:40.520 --> 03:37:42.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I seem to recall nga, bigly na may asr-005596 03:37:42.520 --> 03:37:44.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ganung mga asr-005597 03:37:44.520 --> 03:37:46.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pag-inspect ninyo asr-005598 03:37:46.520 --> 03:37:48.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at saka mga findings. asr-005599 03:37:48.520 --> 03:37:50.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kailangan ko lang ibahagi sa inyo asr-005600 03:37:50.520 --> 03:37:52.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na abiding concern ito asr-005601 03:37:52.520 --> 03:37:54.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga kababayan natin asr-005602 03:37:54.520 --> 03:37:56.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Homonhon Island. Lalo na asr-005603 03:37:56.520 --> 03:37:58.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dahil isla sila. Kaya nga kanina asr-005604 03:37:58.520 --> 03:38:00.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: we were talking about pag-isla, mas asr-005605 03:38:00.520 --> 03:38:02.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kailangan ng desalination kasi mas sensitive asr-005606 03:38:02.520 --> 03:38:04.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung water source dahil asr-005607 03:38:04.520 --> 03:38:06.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mas maliit silang landmass. Hindi asr-005608 03:38:06.520 --> 03:38:08.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sila kasi laki ng Luzon asr-005609 03:38:08.520 --> 03:38:10.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: o ng Mindanao. asr-005610 03:38:10.520 --> 03:38:12.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mga isla-isla lalo na sa Visayas. asr-005611 03:38:12.520 --> 03:38:14.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And hanggang ngayon, asr-005612 03:38:14.520 --> 03:38:16.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ganun po yung concern nila na asr-005613 03:38:16.520 --> 03:38:18.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nagkompromiso, nakakaapekto asr-005614 03:38:18.520 --> 03:38:20.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng masama yung mining operations asr-005615 03:38:20.520 --> 03:38:22.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa water supply nila asr-005616 03:38:22.520 --> 03:38:24.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mismo. Which was asr-005617 03:38:24.520 --> 03:38:26.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: which is water source asr-005618 03:38:26.520 --> 03:38:28.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: talaga ng isla nila asr-005619 03:38:28.520 --> 03:38:30.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: even before the mining company supported asr-005620 03:38:30.520 --> 03:38:32.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung pagtayo ng water system. asr-005621 03:38:32.520 --> 03:38:34.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I leave it to them to asr-005622 03:38:34.520 --> 03:38:36.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: express their appreciation to the asr-005623 03:38:36.520 --> 03:38:38.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mining company for that water system. asr-005624 03:38:38.520 --> 03:38:40.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero yun nga po, I have asr-005625 03:38:40.520 --> 03:38:42.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: to tell you na hanggang ngayon asr-005626 03:38:42.520 --> 03:38:44.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nag-aalala talaga sila dun sa asr-005627 03:38:44.520 --> 03:38:46.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mismong original na asr-005628 03:38:46.520 --> 03:38:48.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: water source na yan. So, asr-005629 03:38:48.520 --> 03:38:50.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I'm looking forward to asr-005630 03:38:50.520 --> 03:38:52.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: if the Secretary allows to asr-005631 03:38:52.520 --> 03:38:54.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: receiving a copy of that report ng asr-005632 03:38:54.520 --> 03:38:56.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: MGB. Maraming salamat po asr-005633 03:38:56.520 --> 03:38:58.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para doon, Sec. Okay, asr-005634 03:38:58.520 --> 03:39:00.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: some questions now for the asr-005635 03:39:00.520 --> 03:39:02.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Environment Management Bureau asr-005636 03:39:02.520 --> 03:39:04.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: EMB. Ah, yes, sir. asr-005637 03:39:04.520 --> 03:39:06.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, sorry. Pangalan po rin asr-005638 03:39:06.520 --> 03:39:08.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ni Atty. Janice. Nakikita ko. asr-005639 03:39:08.520 --> 03:39:10.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Director asr-005640 03:39:10.520 --> 03:39:12.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mathias. Yes, sir. asr-005641 03:39:14.520 --> 03:39:16.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ilan pong asr-005642 03:39:16.520 --> 03:39:18.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: gumaga ng asr-005643 03:39:18.520 --> 03:39:20.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: methane analyzer asr-005644 03:39:20.520 --> 03:39:22.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: meron po ang EMB asr-005645 03:39:22.520 --> 03:39:24.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa ngayon? At saka asr-005646 03:39:24.520 --> 03:39:26.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa ang saang mga region asr-005647 03:39:26.520 --> 03:39:28.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nakadistribute sila? asr-005648 03:39:30.520 --> 03:39:32.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: For methane asr-005649 03:39:32.520 --> 03:39:34.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: analyzer po, ma'am, asr-005650 03:39:34.520 --> 03:39:36.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we have one previously asr-005651 03:39:36.520 --> 03:39:38.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: being used in Navotas asr-005652 03:39:38.520 --> 03:39:40.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and currently asr-005653 03:39:40.520 --> 03:39:42.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: with the budget for 2027 asr-005654 03:39:42.520 --> 03:39:44.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we intend to procure asr-005655 03:39:44.520 --> 03:39:46.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: with the budget of 2026 asr-005656 03:39:46.520 --> 03:39:48.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we intend to procure asr-005657 03:39:48.520 --> 03:39:50.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: five asr-005658 03:39:50.520 --> 03:39:52.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: five additional po para po dito asr-005659 03:39:52.520 --> 03:39:54.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: sa mga landfills that asr-005660 03:39:54.520 --> 03:39:56.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we are monitoring. asr-005661 03:39:56.520 --> 03:39:58.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And I think this is related din po asr-005662 03:39:58.520 --> 03:40:00.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: dun sa methane that asr-005663 03:40:00.520 --> 03:40:02.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: being released po by the asr-005664 03:40:02.520 --> 03:40:04.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: sanitary landfills and asr-005665 03:40:04.520 --> 03:40:06.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we have already coordinated asr-005666 03:40:06.520 --> 03:40:08.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: with our regional offices asr-005667 03:40:08.520 --> 03:40:10.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: in fact upon the instruction of our asr-005668 03:40:10.520 --> 03:40:12.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: sila Secretary asr-005669 03:40:12.520 --> 03:40:14.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and the USEC for field asr-005670 03:40:14.520 --> 03:40:16.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: operations, we are monitoring po asr-005671 03:40:16.520 --> 03:40:18.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: yung requirement of venting asr-005672 03:40:18.520 --> 03:40:20.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: because this is very asr-005673 03:40:20.520 --> 03:40:22.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: critical po. Ito po yung isa asr-005674 03:40:22.520 --> 03:40:24.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: sa mga nagiging dahilan po asr-005675 03:40:24.520 --> 03:40:26.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ng pagkakaroon ng mga asr-005676 03:40:26.520 --> 03:40:28.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: pagkakasunog po ng ating mga asr-005677 03:40:28.520 --> 03:40:30.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: sanitary landfills. So asr-005678 03:40:30.520 --> 03:40:32.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: aside from that, asr-005679 03:40:32.520 --> 03:40:34.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: not only the monitoring of the asr-005680 03:40:34.520 --> 03:40:36.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: actual methane that is being released asr-005681 03:40:36.520 --> 03:40:38.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: but also the fact that asr-005682 03:40:38.520 --> 03:40:40.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: it is being released po. asr-005683 03:40:40.520 --> 03:40:42.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Otherwise, asr-005684 03:40:42.520 --> 03:40:44.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: pwede pong pag-umpisan po ito ng asr-005685 03:40:44.520 --> 03:40:46.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: explosion and spontaneous combustion po. asr-005686 03:40:46.520 --> 03:40:48.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So ito po yung mga bagay na asr-005687 03:40:48.520 --> 03:40:49.200 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: minomonitored po natin. asr-005688 03:40:49.200 --> 03:40:52.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero seryoso, isang methane analyzer lang asr-005689 03:40:52.520 --> 03:40:54.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa ngayon nasa Navotas? asr-005690 03:40:54.520 --> 03:40:56.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ito ba yung kinailangan nyo panghiramin asr-005691 03:40:56.520 --> 03:40:58.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mula sa Region 4A asr-005692 03:40:58.520 --> 03:41:00.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nung panahon ng Navotas Landfill Fire? asr-005693 03:41:00.520 --> 03:41:02.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Ito po yun ma'am. And asr-005694 03:41:02.520 --> 03:41:04.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: based on that experience, asr-005695 03:41:04.520 --> 03:41:06.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: nag-procure na po kami asr-005696 03:41:06.520 --> 03:41:08.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ng additional analyzers po. asr-005697 03:41:08.520 --> 03:41:10.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Additional five? asr-005698 03:41:10.520 --> 03:41:12.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Opo. Pero may asr-005699 03:41:12.520 --> 03:41:14.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 397 sanitary landfills asr-005700 03:41:14.520 --> 03:41:16.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Pilipinas at hindi pa asr-005701 03:41:16.520 --> 03:41:19.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nabibilang doon yung mga illegal dump sites. asr-005702 03:41:19.400 --> 03:41:20.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: For asr-005703 03:41:20.520 --> 03:41:22.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: 2027 asr-005704 03:41:22.520 --> 03:41:24.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: budget ma'am, we intend to complete at least asr-005705 03:41:24.520 --> 03:41:26.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: dun sa 24 asr-005706 03:41:28.520 --> 03:41:30.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: category 4 landfills po na meron asr-005707 03:41:30.520 --> 03:41:32.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: po tayo that we are monitoring. And asr-005708 03:41:32.520 --> 03:41:34.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: our asr-005709 03:41:34.520 --> 03:41:36.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: gas analyzers naman po can be asr-005710 03:41:36.520 --> 03:41:38.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: mobile. It can be used by asr-005711 03:41:38.520 --> 03:41:40.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: other regions as well or asr-005712 03:41:40.520 --> 03:41:42.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: for example in a particular region asr-005713 03:41:42.520 --> 03:41:44.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: there are three landfills. So asr-005714 03:41:44.520 --> 03:41:46.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: pwede rin pong isang asr-005715 03:41:46.520 --> 03:41:48.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: analyzer po asr-005716 03:41:48.520 --> 03:41:50.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: magagamit po nila po ito sa asr-005717 03:41:50.520 --> 03:41:52.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: tatlong sanitary landfills po. asr-005718 03:41:54.520 --> 03:41:56.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So may isang asr-005719 03:41:56.520 --> 03:41:58.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ngayon, balak nyong mag-procure asr-005720 03:41:58.520 --> 03:42:00.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng lima pa ngayong taon. So anim. asr-005721 03:42:00.520 --> 03:42:02.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Gusto nyong dagdagan ng 24 asr-005722 03:42:02.520 --> 03:42:04.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: by next year? So 30 lahat? asr-005723 03:42:04.520 --> 03:42:06.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: To complete asr-005724 03:42:06.520 --> 03:42:08.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the 24 po. At least for the asr-005725 03:42:08.520 --> 03:42:10.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: category asr-005726 03:42:10.520 --> 03:42:12.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: 4 landfills po. Ito po yung mga asr-005727 03:42:12.520 --> 03:42:14.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: malalaking landfills na po natin. asr-005728 03:42:14.520 --> 03:42:16.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At yung 24 na analyzer asr-005729 03:42:16.520 --> 03:42:18.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sasapat na ba dun sa category asr-005730 03:42:18.520 --> 03:42:20.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 4 landfills sa buong bansa? asr-005731 03:42:20.520 --> 03:42:22.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Oo po. Tingin po namin na asr-005732 03:42:22.520 --> 03:42:24.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: supesyente na po ito. asr-005733 03:42:26.520 --> 03:42:28.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero syempre yung illegal dump sites asr-005734 03:42:28.520 --> 03:42:30.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: hindi pa po nabibilang doon sa proportion? asr-005735 03:42:30.520 --> 03:42:32.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Oo po. asr-005736 03:42:32.520 --> 03:42:34.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Ang ginagawa po natin ngayon asr-005737 03:42:34.520 --> 03:42:36.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: nagigigpit po tayo pagdating asr-005738 03:42:36.520 --> 03:42:38.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: po sa illegal dump sites. asr-005739 03:42:38.520 --> 03:42:40.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Dahil po nire-require po ng batas asr-005740 03:42:40.520 --> 03:42:42.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: that they should be closed. asr-005741 03:42:42.520 --> 03:42:44.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And right now based on our inventory asr-005742 03:42:44.520 --> 03:42:46.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: there are 77 asr-005743 03:42:46.520 --> 03:42:48.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: open dump sites. But asr-005744 03:42:48.520 --> 03:42:50.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: upon instruction and the strict asr-005745 03:42:50.520 --> 03:42:52.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: monitoring po on the asr-005746 03:42:52.520 --> 03:42:54.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: pagdating po dito sa closure asr-005747 03:42:54.520 --> 03:42:56.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ng ating mga open dump sites asr-005748 03:42:56.520 --> 03:42:58.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: I will just have to asr-005749 03:42:58.520 --> 03:43:00.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: confer with the solid waste management asr-005750 03:43:00.520 --> 03:43:02.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: division but I think it's already down to asr-005751 03:43:02.520 --> 03:43:05.800 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: 30 plus na lang po. Yung mga open dump sites po. asr-005752 03:43:05.800 --> 03:43:06.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Down from 77? asr-005753 03:43:06.520 --> 03:43:08.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Oo po. But ang asr-005754 03:43:08.520 --> 03:43:10.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ang importante po dito asr-005755 03:43:10.520 --> 03:43:12.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: is that not just closing the asr-005756 03:43:12.520 --> 03:43:14.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: dump site but providing asr-005757 03:43:14.520 --> 03:43:16.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: assistance also to the local government asr-005758 03:43:16.520 --> 03:43:18.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: units. Kasi hindi po asr-005759 03:43:18.520 --> 03:43:20.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: natin kaagyet asr-005760 03:43:20.520 --> 03:43:22.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: na mapapasara ito nang wala asr-005761 03:43:22.520 --> 03:43:24.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: pong mga alternatibo. asr-005762 03:43:24.520 --> 03:43:26.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: That's why part of the program that asr-005763 03:43:26.520 --> 03:43:28.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we're doing is that asr-005764 03:43:28.520 --> 03:43:30.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we are engaging the asr-005765 03:43:30.520 --> 03:43:32.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: recyclers, asr-005766 03:43:32.520 --> 03:43:34.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: those that are involved in asr-005767 03:43:34.520 --> 03:43:36.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: upcycling para po asr-005768 03:43:36.520 --> 03:43:38.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: I think sila sa mga local government units asr-005769 03:43:38.520 --> 03:43:40.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: na mabawasan po asr-005770 03:43:40.520 --> 03:43:42.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: yung waste na napupunta asr-005771 03:43:42.520 --> 03:43:44.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: po sa sanitary landfill. asr-005772 03:43:44.520 --> 03:43:46.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So kasama po yun na asr-005773 03:43:46.520 --> 03:43:48.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: pag they can have an arrangement asr-005774 03:43:48.520 --> 03:43:50.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ito po yung kinaganda po asr-005775 03:43:50.520 --> 03:43:52.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: nung ating EPR law. Kasi asr-005776 03:43:52.520 --> 03:43:54.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: they would be able to get credits asr-005777 03:43:54.520 --> 03:43:56.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and at the same time these credits can be asr-005778 03:43:56.520 --> 03:43:58.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: eventually be given asr-005779 03:43:58.520 --> 03:44:00.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: to the obliged enterprises. asr-005780 03:44:00.520 --> 03:44:02.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So dito po sa sistema asr-005781 03:44:02.520 --> 03:44:04.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ganito and coupled asr-005782 03:44:04.520 --> 03:44:06.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: with the strict implementation of asr-005783 03:44:06.520 --> 03:44:08.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the Solid Waste Management Act, asr-005784 03:44:08.520 --> 03:44:10.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the local government units right now asr-005785 03:44:10.520 --> 03:44:12.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: are inclined or asr-005786 03:44:12.520 --> 03:44:14.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: more excited in participating asr-005787 03:44:14.520 --> 03:44:16.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: po dito sa mga programa po natin asr-005788 03:44:16.520 --> 03:44:18.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and ang obligasyon po natin asr-005789 03:44:18.520 --> 03:44:20.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: on the part of the DNR, i-link asr-005790 03:44:20.520 --> 03:44:22.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: po sila dito po sa mga existing asr-005791 03:44:22.520 --> 03:44:24.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: recyclers po natin. asr-005792 03:44:24.520 --> 03:44:26.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: You took the words right out of my asr-005793 03:44:26.520 --> 03:44:28.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mouth, Director Matias. Higit sa pag asr-005794 03:44:28.520 --> 03:44:30.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: procure ng mas maraming methane asr-005795 03:44:30.520 --> 03:44:32.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: analyzers, talagang yung asr-005796 03:44:32.520 --> 03:44:34.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mas malawak asr-005797 03:44:34.520 --> 03:44:36.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at maggaling na implementasyon ng asr-005798 03:44:36.520 --> 03:44:38.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Solid Waste Management Act para hindi asr-005799 03:44:38.520 --> 03:44:40.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tayo forever nakaasa sa mga asr-005800 03:44:40.520 --> 03:44:42.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: landfills at saka mga dump sites asr-005801 03:44:42.520 --> 03:44:44.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: whether legal or illegal. asr-005802 03:44:44.520 --> 03:44:46.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sige po. asr-005803 03:44:46.520 --> 03:44:48.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ngayon EMB is also supposed asr-005804 03:44:48.520 --> 03:44:50.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: to procure nine units asr-005805 03:44:50.520 --> 03:44:52.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng Continuous Ambient Air asr-005806 03:44:52.520 --> 03:44:54.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Quality Monitoring Station asr-005807 03:44:54.520 --> 03:44:56.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or AQMS at 25 asr-005808 03:44:56.520 --> 03:44:58.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: million pesos per unit asr-005809 03:44:58.520 --> 03:45:00.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: o suma total asr-005810 03:45:00.000 --> 03:45:09.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 225 million pesos. Ilang kasalukuyang AQMS stations mayroon ang ating bansa? asr-005811 03:45:10.240 --> 03:45:19.940 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: We have I think 100 plus po, 130 or 100. Give or take po kasi minsan po may mga under maintenance. asr-005812 03:45:19.940 --> 03:45:29.220 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: But this equipment po, yung continuous ambient air monitoring stations po natin are capable of providing real-time results. asr-005813 03:45:29.220 --> 03:45:47.420 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Mapapansin po natin that in the past weeks or month na we've been issuing advisories on HACE, we've been able to look at the results and inform the public and coordinate with the Department of Health pagdating po dito sa mga findings po natin. asr-005814 03:45:47.420 --> 03:45:59.200 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So napakalaking bagay po nito. If we will be given the opportunity to procure additional units of continuous ambient air monitoring stations. asr-005815 03:45:59.220 --> 03:46:11.720 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: We are working with the air quality monitoring station but more than the procurement of the equipment po, since nabanggit nyo po na medyo mahal po ito, we are working with the other sectors as well. asr-005816 03:46:12.960 --> 03:46:19.620 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Kasi mayroon po tayong continuous emission monitoring systems that are being installed po sa mga factories nationwide. asr-005817 03:46:19.880 --> 03:46:28.940 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So we are trying to link those results, real-time results to our system as well so that we will be able to have a network of those. asr-005818 03:46:29.220 --> 03:46:43.680 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And they also have, the local government units are also several using sensors, low-cost sensors in having the real-time availability of results as well po. asr-005819 03:46:43.680 --> 03:46:58.320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So ang importante po sa atin, we will be able to, through an agreement with these local government units, we will be able to have a wide network of air quality stations, be it cams or sensors po. asr-005820 03:46:58.320 --> 03:46:58.780 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So that asr-005825 03:46:58.960 --> 03:47:00.320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we will be able to asr-005826 03:47:00.320 --> 03:47:02.820 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: come up with a more or less asr-005827 03:47:02.820 --> 03:47:03.860 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: precise asr-005828 03:47:03.860 --> 03:47:07.120 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: for example, prediction asr-005829 03:47:07.120 --> 03:47:09.500 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: by way of asr-005830 03:47:09.500 --> 03:47:11.180 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: modeling, for example, in the next asr-005831 03:47:11.180 --> 03:47:12.980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: three hours, where will be the asr-005832 03:47:12.980 --> 03:47:14.580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: exceedance of pollutant maybe. So, asr-005833 03:47:14.980 --> 03:47:16.700 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: that would be the ideal asr-005834 03:47:16.700 --> 03:47:18.540 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: setup that we want to have. asr-005835 03:47:20.100 --> 03:47:21.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pag pinagsaman asr-005836 03:47:21.300 --> 03:47:23.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nyo po yung sensors na mga LGUs asr-005837 03:47:23.300 --> 03:47:24.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tapos yung mga CAMs nung asr-005838 03:47:24.840 --> 03:47:26.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: bureau ninyo, asr-005839 03:47:26.120 --> 03:47:28.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: so, sasapat na ba yung asr-005840 03:47:28.220 --> 03:47:30.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 130 CAMs asr-005841 03:47:30.320 --> 03:47:31.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: that you have right now or asr-005842 03:47:31.640 --> 03:47:33.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kailangan nyo pang dagdagan? asr-005843 03:47:34.520 --> 03:47:36.080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: For the, right now, asr-005844 03:47:36.200 --> 03:47:38.200 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: I was informed na 137 po asr-005845 03:47:38.200 --> 03:47:39.560 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and plus 9 po ito. asr-005846 03:47:40.000 --> 03:47:41.980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Yung CAMs po natin are what asr-005847 03:47:41.980 --> 03:47:44.220 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we say po as reference method asr-005848 03:47:44.220 --> 03:47:46.320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: dahil po yung mga sensors asr-005849 03:47:46.320 --> 03:47:47.760 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: natin, meron po yung mga asr-005850 03:47:47.760 --> 03:47:50.100 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: give or take margin of asr-005851 03:47:50.100 --> 03:47:52.140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: errors po. So, but asr-005852 03:47:52.140 --> 03:47:54.280 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: nonetheless, for purposes of asr-005853 03:47:54.280 --> 03:47:56.100 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: PM asr-005854 03:47:56.100 --> 03:47:57.460 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: 10 and 2.5, asr-005855 03:47:58.360 --> 03:47:59.980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: medyo accurate naman po yung mga sensors asr-005856 03:47:59.980 --> 03:48:02.420 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: but the ideal target is 526. asr-005857 03:48:03.240 --> 03:48:04.340 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Nationwide po ito. asr-005858 03:48:05.980 --> 03:48:08.380 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: But one thing's important po, asr-005859 03:48:08.940 --> 03:48:10.120 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: currently, the bureau asr-005860 03:48:10.120 --> 03:48:11.460 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: is looking at asr-005861 03:48:11.460 --> 03:48:12.760 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: probably asr-005862 03:48:12.760 --> 03:48:16.160 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: transitioning to another system asr-005863 03:48:16.160 --> 03:48:18.240 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: which is less costly po asr-005864 03:48:18.240 --> 03:48:20.140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: kasi nabanggit nga po natin na medyo asr-005865 03:48:20.140 --> 03:48:21.840 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: mahal po ang equipment asr-005866 03:48:21.840 --> 03:48:23.920 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and over time, nagkakaroon po ito asr-005867 03:48:23.920 --> 03:48:25.880 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ng wear and tear and eventually, asr-005868 03:48:26.100 --> 03:48:28.220 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: siguro 5-10 years, yung mga na-procure asr-005869 03:48:28.220 --> 03:48:29.820 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: in the past, mapapalitan na rin po. asr-005870 03:48:30.000 --> 03:48:32.040 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So, having that asr-005871 03:48:32.040 --> 03:48:33.280 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ideal number, medyo asr-005872 03:48:33.280 --> 03:48:36.360 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: nasa wishlist po natin yun. asr-005873 03:48:36.460 --> 03:48:37.980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: But nonetheless, if we can look for asr-005874 03:48:37.980 --> 03:48:39.840 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: alternatives that is less costly asr-005875 03:48:39.840 --> 03:48:41.900 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and it will be efficient asr-005876 03:48:41.900 --> 03:48:44.140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: in terms of the management of air quality asr-005877 03:48:44.140 --> 03:48:46.040 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: rin naman po, we would go for asr-005878 03:48:46.040 --> 03:48:47.540 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: that alternative din po. asr-005879 03:48:48.260 --> 03:48:49.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, hindi po kayo nagre-request na mga asr-005880 03:48:49.940 --> 03:48:51.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dagdag na CAMs for next year. asr-005881 03:48:51.940 --> 03:48:54.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ife-face inyo na po ba yung mas murang asr-005882 03:48:54.000 --> 03:48:54.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: system? asr-005883 03:48:54.580 --> 03:48:56.620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Doon sa mix nyo asr-005884 03:48:56.620 --> 03:48:58.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga air quality monitoring systems? asr-005885 03:48:59.560 --> 03:49:00.660 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Ano po yun, ma'am? asr-005886 03:49:01.040 --> 03:49:02.580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: It will be included asr-005887 03:49:02.580 --> 03:49:04.180 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: as part of our plan. asr-005888 03:49:05.200 --> 03:49:06.380 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: But we will asr-005889 03:49:06.380 --> 03:49:08.540 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: do with what is asr-005890 03:49:08.540 --> 03:49:10.600 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: provided to us by the government. asr-005891 03:49:10.960 --> 03:49:12.720 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So, if it will be 9 additional asr-005892 03:49:12.720 --> 03:49:13.940 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: CAMs, there will be asr-005893 03:49:13.940 --> 03:49:16.180 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: 137 plus 9 asr-005894 03:49:16.180 --> 03:49:18.580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: units for next year. asr-005895 03:49:18.660 --> 03:49:20.580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And it will be distributed naman po asr-005896 03:49:20.580 --> 03:49:22.860 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: all over the country asr-005897 03:49:22.860 --> 03:49:23.700 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: based on the asr-005898 03:49:23.700 --> 03:49:24.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the asr-005899 03:49:24.580 --> 03:49:27.680 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: number of industries asr-005900 03:49:27.680 --> 03:49:29.140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: that would be asr-005901 03:49:29.140 --> 03:49:31.840 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: possible area for pollution asr-005902 03:49:31.840 --> 03:49:33.100 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: or our ambience. asr-005903 03:49:33.380 --> 03:49:35.240 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So that we will be able to get asr-005904 03:49:35.240 --> 03:49:37.420 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: more or less represented asr-005905 03:49:37.420 --> 03:49:38.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: results po and asr-005906 03:49:38.520 --> 03:49:40.800 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: to provide timely asr-005907 03:49:40.800 --> 03:49:44.860 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: information to the public. asr-005908 03:49:45.500 --> 03:49:47.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, by next year's budget debates, asr-005909 03:49:48.400 --> 03:49:49.480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na-identify nyo na yung asr-005910 03:49:49.480 --> 03:49:51.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mas murang system at asr-005911 03:49:51.540 --> 03:49:53.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: baka yun na yung ipopropose nyo asr-005912 03:49:53.400 --> 03:49:54.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa 2028? asr-005913 03:49:54.580 --> 03:49:54.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Budget? asr-005914 03:49:56.120 --> 03:49:56.980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Hopefully po. asr-005915 03:49:57.340 --> 03:49:59.800 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Right now, we're talking with asr-005916 03:49:59.800 --> 03:50:01.580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: previously po, asr-005917 03:50:01.700 --> 03:50:03.140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we're talking with UP Care asr-005918 03:50:03.140 --> 03:50:05.360 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and also with asr-005919 03:50:05.360 --> 03:50:07.160 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Clean Air Asia for the asr-005920 03:50:07.160 --> 03:50:09.620 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: programs po on having asr-005921 03:50:09.620 --> 03:50:11.760 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: a sensor. We will continue asr-005922 03:50:11.760 --> 03:50:13.560 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: with the talks po para po at least asr-005923 03:50:13.560 --> 03:50:15.680 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: meron na po kami ma-report po sa inyo asr-005924 03:50:15.680 --> 03:50:16.180 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: next year. asr-005925 03:50:16.880 --> 03:50:17.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Good luck with that. asr-005926 03:50:20.120 --> 03:50:21.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Follow-up questions, asr-005927 03:50:21.500 --> 03:50:23.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: medyo yung iba na talaki na rin natin. asr-005928 03:50:24.580 --> 03:50:26.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Nakapaghanda na ba ang EMB asr-005929 03:50:26.100 --> 03:50:28.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng plano para magsagawa asr-005930 03:50:28.460 --> 03:50:29.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mas frequent monitoring asr-005931 03:50:29.940 --> 03:50:31.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga landfills, pati po ang mga asr-005932 03:50:31.780 --> 03:50:33.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: thermal energy plants asr-005933 03:50:33.240 --> 03:50:35.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa fire hazards asr-005934 03:50:35.540 --> 03:50:37.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at air pollution concerns? asr-005935 03:50:37.940 --> 03:50:39.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At makakaasa ba yung ating bayan asr-005936 03:50:39.740 --> 03:50:41.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mas magandang, asr-005937 03:50:42.440 --> 03:50:44.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mas magaling na monitoring asr-005938 03:50:44.360 --> 03:50:46.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at updates sa air quality? asr-005939 03:50:47.200 --> 03:50:48.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Alimbawa, kaugnay din po yung asr-005940 03:50:48.500 --> 03:50:50.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: haze na galing din sa Indonesia. asr-005941 03:50:51.500 --> 03:50:53.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ano po? Lalo na po yung asr-005942 03:50:53.360 --> 03:50:54.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga kababayan natin, asr-005943 03:50:54.580 --> 03:50:56.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung nakatira sa southern at sa asr-005944 03:50:56.100 --> 03:50:57.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: central Philippines? asr-005945 03:50:58.900 --> 03:51:00.420 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Yes, Madam Senator. asr-005946 03:51:01.060 --> 03:51:02.080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: For the HACE po, asr-005947 03:51:03.840 --> 03:51:04.440 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the asr-005948 03:51:04.440 --> 03:51:05.800 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: secretaries already asr-005949 03:51:05.800 --> 03:51:08.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: wrote the Department of asr-005950 03:51:08.520 --> 03:51:10.560 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Foreign Affairs and informing them asr-005951 03:51:10.560 --> 03:51:12.580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: for us to have a asr-005952 03:51:12.580 --> 03:51:14.620 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: clear communication line asr-005953 03:51:14.620 --> 03:51:16.640 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: on the effects of the HACE po asr-005954 03:51:16.640 --> 03:51:18.040 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: sa atin, given that asr-005955 03:51:18.040 --> 03:51:19.740 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: based on the asr-005956 03:51:19.740 --> 03:51:22.220 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: results that we're showing, several asr-005957 03:51:22.220 --> 03:51:24.140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: local government units have asr-005958 03:51:24.580 --> 03:51:26.080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: declared suspension of work. asr-005959 03:51:26.080 --> 03:51:27.860 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So may mga, ito po yung mga asr-005960 03:51:27.860 --> 03:51:29.820 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: naging negative impact po sa atin asr-005961 03:51:29.820 --> 03:51:31.020 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and the secretaries already asr-005962 03:51:31.020 --> 03:51:33.500 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: coordinated with the DFA po asr-005963 03:51:33.500 --> 03:51:34.320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: for the possible asr-005964 03:51:34.320 --> 03:51:36.840 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: coordination asr-005965 03:51:36.840 --> 03:51:39.480 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: on the, pagdating naman po dito sa asr-005966 03:51:39.480 --> 03:51:41.720 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: source po ng HACE po natin. asr-005967 03:51:42.400 --> 03:51:44.080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And tungkol po dun sa asr-005968 03:51:44.080 --> 03:51:46.320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: tanong, pagdating po dito sa asr-005969 03:51:46.320 --> 03:51:48.140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: mga sanitary landfills, asr-005970 03:51:48.980 --> 03:51:50.580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we have been asr-005971 03:51:50.580 --> 03:51:52.980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: kasama po natin asr-005972 03:51:52.980 --> 03:51:54.420 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: yung mga regional offices natin. asr-005973 03:51:54.420 --> 03:51:54.820 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And are asr-005974 03:51:54.820 --> 03:51:58.320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: regularly monitoring po. asr-005975 03:51:58.440 --> 03:51:59.960 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: In fact, this year alone, asr-005976 03:52:00.120 --> 03:52:01.780 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we were able to do asr-005977 03:52:01.780 --> 03:52:04.240 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: may second round na po asr-005978 03:52:04.240 --> 03:52:06.120 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ng inspection po dito po sa ating mga asr-005979 03:52:06.120 --> 03:52:07.980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: category 4 sanitary landfills. asr-005980 03:52:08.120 --> 03:52:10.140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And for category 3 asr-005981 03:52:10.140 --> 03:52:12.120 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: down to 1, the regional asr-005982 03:52:12.120 --> 03:52:13.420 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: offices are doing the asr-005983 03:52:13.420 --> 03:52:15.440 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: inspections. And asr-005984 03:52:15.440 --> 03:52:17.820 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: based on monitoring, asr-005985 03:52:18.040 --> 03:52:19.660 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: yung first round po, we've already asr-005986 03:52:19.660 --> 03:52:22.140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: wrote communications asr-005987 03:52:22.140 --> 03:52:24.320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: to the local government units, asr-005988 03:52:24.420 --> 03:52:26.080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the ILG, and the asr-005989 03:52:26.080 --> 03:52:27.980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: proponent of the sanitary landfills, asr-005990 03:52:28.080 --> 03:52:30.340 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: informing them of our findings. asr-005991 03:52:30.940 --> 03:52:32.440 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So ito pong round of inspection asr-005992 03:52:32.440 --> 03:52:34.300 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: would be to check whether asr-005993 03:52:34.300 --> 03:52:35.520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: or not those asr-005994 03:52:35.520 --> 03:52:37.660 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: recommendations were actually asr-005995 03:52:37.660 --> 03:52:40.100 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: implemented or currently being asr-005996 03:52:40.100 --> 03:52:42.220 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: implemented by the project asr-005997 03:52:42.220 --> 03:52:44.000 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: proponent or the local government asr-005998 03:52:44.000 --> 03:52:45.980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: units. So tuloy-tuloy po asr-005999 03:52:45.980 --> 03:52:48.060 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: yung inspection natin. And asr-006000 03:52:48.060 --> 03:52:50.160 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: in fact, it's not only asr-006001 03:52:50.160 --> 03:52:52.200 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: checking whether or not may asr-006002 03:52:52.200 --> 03:52:54.140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: okay yung operational landfill, but asr-006003 03:52:54.140 --> 03:52:56.160 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: also checking, for asr-006004 03:52:56.160 --> 03:52:58.040 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: example, establishments, whether they asr-006005 03:52:58.040 --> 03:53:00.080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: are implementing the segregation at source. asr-006006 03:53:00.580 --> 03:53:02.180 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So it will be part now of the asr-006007 03:53:02.180 --> 03:53:03.640 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: findings of the regional office asr-006008 03:53:03.640 --> 03:53:05.840 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: when they do inspection, whether these asr-006009 03:53:05.840 --> 03:53:08.000 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: establishments are actually complying asr-006010 03:53:08.000 --> 03:53:10.100 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: with the 9003 po. And also asr-006011 03:53:10.100 --> 03:53:11.980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the segregated compliance, asr-006012 03:53:12.420 --> 03:53:14.320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: segregated collection, asr-006013 03:53:14.520 --> 03:53:16.260 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and at the same time po, yung ating asr-006014 03:53:16.260 --> 03:53:18.180 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: MRFs, asr-006015 03:53:18.980 --> 03:53:20.140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: whether or not they are asr-006016 03:53:20.140 --> 03:53:22.000 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: actually being used for the purpose, asr-006017 03:53:22.500 --> 03:53:23.920 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: for the intended purpose, asr-006018 03:53:24.140 --> 03:53:26.080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: kung talaga po bang dinadaanan ito asr-006019 03:53:26.080 --> 03:53:28.220 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ng ating mga ways asr-006020 03:53:28.220 --> 03:53:29.920 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: or yung collection is actually happening asr-006021 03:53:29.920 --> 03:53:31.460 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: at the MRFs po. asr-006022 03:53:32.880 --> 03:53:34.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Maraming salamat asr-006023 03:53:34.020 --> 03:53:35.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Director. So asr-006024 03:53:35.780 --> 03:53:38.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nabaybay nyo yung asr-006025 03:53:38.000 --> 03:53:39.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: maraming importante yung kailangan asr-006026 03:53:39.960 --> 03:53:41.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: natin gawin eh. Diba? Yung EPR asr-006027 03:53:41.940 --> 03:53:43.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at the upstream asr-006028 03:53:43.940 --> 03:53:45.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: and then downstream. Ito nga, segregation asr-006029 03:53:45.920 --> 03:53:47.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at source, yung mga MRFs, asr-006030 03:53:48.320 --> 03:53:49.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: recycling, upcycling. asr-006031 03:53:50.320 --> 03:53:52.420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Alam na natin yan eh. Nandyan na yan sa batas eh. asr-006032 03:53:53.320 --> 03:53:53.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung asr-006033 03:53:54.140 --> 03:53:56.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Iwan ko, Sek, makaisip asr-006034 03:53:56.020 --> 03:53:58.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng paraan ng DNR to lead asr-006035 03:53:58.080 --> 03:53:59.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: one big push asr-006036 03:53:59.380 --> 03:54:01.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa implementasyon. Maybe asr-006037 03:54:01.880 --> 03:54:04.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: this is not the time asr-006038 03:54:04.160 --> 03:54:05.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: to do it during the budget debate asr-006039 03:54:05.960 --> 03:54:07.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: but since we will keep in touch, asr-006040 03:54:07.920 --> 03:54:09.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Senate and Department, asr-006041 03:54:10.780 --> 03:54:11.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pag-isipan po natin. asr-006042 03:54:12.060 --> 03:54:14.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasi otherwise, baka umabot asr-006043 03:54:14.000 --> 03:54:16.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tayo sa point of no return asr-006044 03:54:16.060 --> 03:54:17.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na eh. Matrap, asr-006045 03:54:17.500 --> 03:54:19.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: masakal na tayo ng asr-006046 03:54:19.300 --> 03:54:21.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: napakaraming basura na hindi asr-006047 03:54:21.880 --> 03:54:23.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na natin talaga kayang i-manage. asr-006048 03:54:24.140 --> 03:54:25.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Because we're not using the available asr-006049 03:54:25.840 --> 03:54:27.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: solutions now. asr-006050 03:54:28.180 --> 03:54:29.640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, if I may. Actually, asr-006051 03:54:29.820 --> 03:54:31.780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: are we talking specifically on EPR, asr-006052 03:54:32.080 --> 03:54:32.420 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair? asr-006053 03:54:33.640 --> 03:54:34.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: In solid waste in general. asr-006054 03:54:35.800 --> 03:54:37.300 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: What we're asr-006055 03:54:37.300 --> 03:54:39.520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: focusing on now, Madam Chair, asr-006056 03:54:40.040 --> 03:54:40.420 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: is asr-006057 03:54:40.420 --> 03:54:43.840 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: coordinating with certain LGUs, asr-006058 03:54:43.960 --> 03:54:46.000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: especially those that are asr-006059 03:54:46.000 --> 03:54:47.060 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: having difficulty asr-006060 03:54:47.060 --> 03:54:49.780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: with the asr-006061 03:54:49.780 --> 03:54:51.860 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: use of the dump sites asr-006062 03:54:51.860 --> 03:54:53.740 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that are supposed to be closed because of asr-006063 03:54:54.140 --> 03:54:55.640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: lack of asr-006064 03:54:55.640 --> 03:54:58.360 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: alternatives that are asr-006065 03:54:58.360 --> 03:55:00.000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: affordable to them. asr-006066 03:55:00.840 --> 03:55:02.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We're coordinating asr-006067 03:55:02.120 --> 03:55:03.720 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: with them and hooking them up with asr-006068 03:55:03.720 --> 03:55:06.280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: recyclers and other. asr-006069 03:55:06.420 --> 03:55:08.140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I said, we're coordinating asr-006070 03:55:08.140 --> 03:55:09.900 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: now with the Department of Agriculture asr-006071 03:55:09.900 --> 03:55:12.080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for the biodegradable asr-006072 03:55:12.080 --> 03:55:13.440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: waste because asr-006073 03:55:13.440 --> 03:55:15.320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: most of the asr-006074 03:55:15.320 --> 03:55:18.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: LGUs, yung biodegradable asr-006075 03:55:18.120 --> 03:55:20.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: nila, Madam Chair, is close to asr-006076 03:55:20.120 --> 03:55:21.680 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 50% or some of them even asr-006077 03:55:21.680 --> 03:55:24.120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: above 50%. So if you're able to asr-006078 03:55:24.140 --> 03:55:25.400 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: address this and asr-006079 03:55:25.400 --> 03:55:26.500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: you asr-006080 03:55:26.500 --> 03:55:29.800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: deduct the volume of asr-006081 03:55:29.800 --> 03:55:31.820 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: biodegradable waste going to the asr-006082 03:55:31.820 --> 03:55:34.040 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: landfills that produce asr-006083 03:55:34.040 --> 03:55:34.860 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: methane, so asr-006084 03:55:34.860 --> 03:55:37.840 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: these are things that we're actually asr-006085 03:55:37.840 --> 03:55:39.420 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: doing already now, Madam Chair. asr-006086 03:55:40.280 --> 03:55:41.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Sec. Count on asr-006087 03:55:41.980 --> 03:55:43.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the Senate to work with you asr-006088 03:55:43.900 --> 03:55:46.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: on as much of this as we can. asr-006089 03:55:47.040 --> 03:55:48.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, sir. The next asr-006090 03:55:48.000 --> 03:55:49.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: two years and beyond, let's asr-006091 03:55:49.980 --> 03:55:52.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: see kung anong mapagtulungan asr-006092 03:55:52.160 --> 03:55:53.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: natin gawin. Di lang mapag-usapan. asr-006093 03:55:54.140 --> 03:55:55.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Gawin talaga. Sige po. asr-006094 03:55:56.360 --> 03:55:57.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Colleagues, I just have actually asr-006095 03:55:57.880 --> 03:55:58.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: one more topic. asr-006096 03:56:00.000 --> 03:56:01.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Reclamation in Manila Bay and other asr-006097 03:56:01.900 --> 03:56:03.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: areas. So asr-006098 03:56:03.760 --> 03:56:05.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may obvious bias hanggang asr-006099 03:56:05.940 --> 03:56:07.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa ngayon, no? In favor sa asr-006100 03:56:07.740 --> 03:56:09.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: gray infrastructure para asr-006101 03:56:09.960 --> 03:56:11.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mag-adapt sa climate change. asr-006102 03:56:12.200 --> 03:56:14.020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So kaya napag-uusapan asr-006103 03:56:14.020 --> 03:56:15.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: natin nung briefing pa lang natin asr-006104 03:56:15.860 --> 03:56:18.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na mag-lean asr-006105 03:56:18.260 --> 03:56:20.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: on talaga tayo asr-006106 03:56:20.100 --> 03:56:22.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dun sa climate-based solutions. asr-006107 03:56:23.540 --> 03:56:23.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: From asr-006108 03:56:24.140 --> 03:56:26.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: flood control, climate change adaptation, asr-006109 03:56:26.740 --> 03:56:27.840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mobility problems, asr-006110 03:56:28.680 --> 03:56:30.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: madalas gamitin binang excuses asr-006111 03:56:30.360 --> 03:56:32.600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para magsagawa ng infrastructure asr-006112 03:56:32.600 --> 03:56:34.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na nagre-resulta asr-006113 03:56:34.460 --> 03:56:36.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa unauthorized at iligal asr-006114 03:56:36.460 --> 03:56:38.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na reclamation ng mga bodies of water. asr-006115 03:56:39.340 --> 03:56:40.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So yung reclamation asr-006116 03:56:40.240 --> 03:56:42.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at infrastructure development sa asr-006117 03:56:42.300 --> 03:56:44.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Laguna Lake, sa Manila Bay, asr-006118 03:56:45.640 --> 03:56:46.820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sinisisi yun asr-006119 03:56:46.820 --> 03:56:48.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa asr-006120 03:56:48.700 --> 03:56:50.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pagbaha sa mga surrounding areas. asr-006121 03:56:51.480 --> 03:56:52.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung collapse ng mga asr-006122 03:56:52.460 --> 03:56:54.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: coastal areas sa Sambale, asr-006123 03:56:54.140 --> 03:56:56.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ina-attribute din po asr-006124 03:56:56.700 --> 03:56:58.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at least in part sa dredging asr-006125 03:56:58.980 --> 03:57:00.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: saka mining para sa fill asr-006126 03:57:00.640 --> 03:57:02.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: materials para sa iba't-ibang asr-006127 03:57:02.720 --> 03:57:04.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: reclamation projects sa Manila Bay. asr-006128 03:57:05.480 --> 03:57:06.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bilang tugon, asr-006129 03:57:07.660 --> 03:57:08.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: salamat nga ang department asr-006130 03:57:08.920 --> 03:57:10.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nag-commission ng cumulative impact asr-006131 03:57:10.580 --> 03:57:12.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: assessment sa mga proyektong asr-006132 03:57:12.560 --> 03:57:14.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yan sa Manila Bay. So asr-006133 03:57:14.640 --> 03:57:16.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pwede kayang mag-submit asr-006134 03:57:16.760 --> 03:57:18.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng short presentation asr-006135 03:57:18.860 --> 03:57:20.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng department ng volume 2 asr-006136 03:57:20.740 --> 03:57:22.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dun sa CIA. asr-006137 03:57:24.140 --> 03:57:25.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Gaya ng itinaya ng mga asr-006138 03:57:25.900 --> 03:57:28.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: naunang mga kalihim asr-006139 03:57:28.400 --> 03:57:29.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Senado. asr-006140 03:57:29.140 --> 03:57:31.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Is that available asr-006141 03:57:31.300 --> 03:57:32.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: today, Secretary? asr-006142 03:57:33.360 --> 03:57:34.900 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yusef Natus, please. asr-006143 03:57:36.240 --> 03:57:36.980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Yusef. asr-006144 03:57:37.020 --> 03:57:39.040 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Good afternoon again, Madam Chair. asr-006145 03:57:39.520 --> 03:57:41.120 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Yes, Madam Chair, we will submit. asr-006146 03:57:41.360 --> 03:57:43.140 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: It is available. Although phase 2 asr-006147 03:57:43.140 --> 03:57:45.060 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: of the cumulative asr-006148 03:57:45.060 --> 03:57:46.880 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: impact assessment is not yet asr-006149 03:57:46.880 --> 03:57:49.260 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: completed in the sense that asr-006150 03:57:49.260 --> 03:57:51.020 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: while they have submitted the asr-006151 03:57:51.020 --> 03:57:53.220 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: final report, the actual asr-006152 03:57:53.220 --> 03:57:53.840 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: data, asr-006153 03:57:54.140 --> 03:57:55.680 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: transfer as well as asr-006154 03:57:55.680 --> 03:57:57.580 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: the modeling platform asr-006155 03:57:57.580 --> 03:57:59.440 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: still has to be asr-006156 03:57:59.440 --> 03:58:01.380 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: transferred to the DNR plus asr-006157 03:58:01.380 --> 03:58:03.700 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: with some training. Thank you. asr-006158 03:58:04.600 --> 03:58:05.960 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: But we can already, asr-006159 03:58:06.520 --> 03:58:07.920 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Madam Chair, we can already provide asr-006160 03:58:07.920 --> 03:58:09.780 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: the committee. Salamat. asr-006161 03:58:10.380 --> 03:58:11.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Are there any asr-006162 03:58:11.660 --> 03:58:14.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: major findings and recommendations asr-006163 03:58:14.000 --> 03:58:15.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: for the final report? Wala pa? asr-006164 03:58:16.380 --> 03:58:17.020 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Basically, asr-006165 03:58:17.500 --> 03:58:19.640 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Madam Chair, it basically asr-006166 03:58:19.640 --> 03:58:21.760 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: just validated the findings of phase asr-006167 03:58:21.760 --> 03:58:22.800 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: 1. Thank you. asr-006168 03:58:24.140 --> 03:58:26.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kailan yung matatapos asr-006169 03:58:26.240 --> 03:58:27.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung final report? Kailan ako, asr-006170 03:58:28.100 --> 03:58:30.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kailan ang subcommittee makakahingi asr-006171 03:58:30.520 --> 03:58:31.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng kopya? asr-006172 03:58:34.200 --> 03:58:36.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasi previous secretaries have committed this. asr-006173 03:58:36.400 --> 03:58:37.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So will you be the department asr-006174 03:58:37.740 --> 03:58:40.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: administration to finally deliver asr-006175 03:58:40.220 --> 03:58:42.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: it to the Senate para we can be more asr-006176 03:58:42.100 --> 03:58:44.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: useful partners to you? asr-006177 03:58:44.480 --> 03:58:47.400 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Ma'am, we can immediately provide it. asr-006178 03:58:47.400 --> 03:58:49.700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Immediately as in within the week? asr-006179 03:58:49.700 --> 03:58:50.220 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: As in tomorrow. asr-006180 03:58:50.840 --> 03:58:52.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tomorrow. Even better. asr-006181 03:58:52.660 --> 03:58:54.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po. Kasi asr-006182 03:58:54.140 --> 03:58:56.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: As you might know, ni-investiga din po asr-006183 03:58:56.160 --> 03:58:57.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: namin yung usapin ng asr-006184 03:58:57.960 --> 03:59:00.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: reclamation as part of the whole Blue Economy asr-006185 03:59:00.140 --> 03:59:02.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bill sa Committee on Economic asr-006186 03:59:02.000 --> 03:59:03.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Affairs. So we want to align with asr-006187 03:59:03.860 --> 03:59:06.120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung mga importanteng assessments asr-006188 03:59:06.120 --> 03:59:07.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tulad nitong ginawaan ninyo. asr-006189 03:59:08.180 --> 03:59:08.740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat. asr-006190 03:59:11.160 --> 03:59:12.100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At this asr-006191 03:59:12.100 --> 03:59:14.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: point, since we're able to asr-006192 03:59:14.360 --> 03:59:15.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: finish a bit earlier asr-006193 03:59:15.960 --> 03:59:17.000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: than I expected, asr-006194 03:59:18.280 --> 03:59:20.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: muli salamat asr-006195 03:59:20.080 --> 03:59:22.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa presensya ng ating mga CSO partners. asr-006196 03:59:22.320 --> 03:59:23.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: The Chair would like to, asr-006197 03:59:24.140 --> 03:59:26.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I'll give you some asr-006198 03:59:26.240 --> 03:59:28.300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: minutes kung meron kayong gustong ibahagi asr-006199 03:59:28.300 --> 03:59:30.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at this point in time, bagamat aasahan asr-006200 03:59:30.500 --> 03:59:32.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng subcommittee, yung mga asr-006201 03:59:32.340 --> 03:59:34.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: follow-up questions nyo, mga asr-006202 03:59:34.260 --> 03:59:36.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga, even perhaps asr-006203 03:59:36.460 --> 03:59:37.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: proposed amendments nyo, asr-006204 03:59:38.260 --> 03:59:39.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: leading up to the asr-006205 03:59:39.460 --> 03:59:41.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: plenary. asr-006206 03:59:42.320 --> 03:59:44.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasi ina-appreciate po namin asr-006207 03:59:44.460 --> 03:59:46.500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung presensya nyo dito bilang bahagi asr-006208 03:59:46.500 --> 03:59:48.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nung sinimula naming budget asr-006209 03:59:48.240 --> 03:59:50.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: reforms nung nakaraang taon asr-006210 03:59:50.180 --> 03:59:51.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na gusto naming palawakin, asr-006211 03:59:52.020 --> 03:59:53.680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: papalalimin pa at ipagpatuloy. asr-006212 03:59:54.140 --> 03:59:56.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I think, Mr. Aparente, asr-006213 03:59:56.340 --> 03:59:57.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kayo po, yes please, for asr-006214 03:59:57.800 --> 03:59:59.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bulacan Alliance for Reform. asr-006215 04:00:00.000 --> 04:00:00.640 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Yes, sir. asr-006216 04:00:01.340 --> 04:00:07.580 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Magandang hapon po. Maraming salamat, Senadora Reza. asr-006217 04:00:09.240 --> 04:00:15.960 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Nagbigay po kami ng sulat sa inyo noon at pinaabot po namin sa inyong opisina. asr-006218 04:00:17.440 --> 04:00:24.580 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Ang laman naman po ng sulat namin ay, ang pinaka-substance po ng aming sulat, asr-006219 04:00:24.580 --> 04:00:37.000 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: eh, for the past three years na po, 2023, or 24, 23, 2024, 25, 26, asr-006220 04:00:38.160 --> 04:00:43.920 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: eh talaga pong ang Bulacan ay grabe ang efekto ng baha. asr-006221 04:00:44.340 --> 04:00:50.860 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Ako po, nanirahan sa Bulacan-Bulacan. I have been there for 40 years. asr-006222 04:00:52.000 --> 04:00:54.560 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: So, alam ko po ang sitwasyon. asr-006223 04:00:54.580 --> 04:01:04.940 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: So, diretso na po ko, yung binabanggit po ng SMC na walang kinalaman ang reclamation asr-006224 04:01:04.940 --> 04:01:12.860 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: ng 3,000, almost 3,000, na reclamation, 3,000 hectares na nireclaim nila para sa airport, asr-006225 04:01:13.860 --> 04:01:17.740 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: kami po, sa aming karanasan, ay hindi po kami naniniwala. asr-006226 04:01:19.940 --> 04:01:24.540 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Dahil po, nakikita namin na patuloy do. asr-006227 04:01:24.580 --> 04:01:25.700 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Tuloy-tuloy po. asr-006228 04:01:26.440 --> 04:01:37.840 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: By the way po, yung coastal areas po, that's yung kilometers po niyan, 43, 43 kilometers point 3. asr-006229 04:01:38.980 --> 04:01:44.040 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: And roughly, siguro mga 600 to 700 ang population po, residents. asr-006230 04:01:45.060 --> 04:01:54.240 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Mula po sa Malolos, Hagunoy, Paumbong, Bulacan-Bulacan, Ubando, kasama na po natin yung Kalumpi. asr-006231 04:01:54.580 --> 04:01:57.860 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Na talagang, ito po talaga yung naapektuhan. asr-006232 04:01:58.580 --> 04:02:05.580 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: So, ang tingin po namin, yung binabanggit pong paulit-ulit na pinagmamalaki ng SMC, asr-006233 04:02:06.660 --> 04:02:10.440 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: na hindi sila sanhi, ay hindi po kami naniniwala. asr-006234 04:02:11.580 --> 04:02:15.340 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Nais namin malaman ng katotohanan sa pamamagitan po ng agham. asr-006235 04:02:16.160 --> 04:02:23.360 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Ngunit, nagsuriin ng aming mga volunteer, scientist at mga dokumentong isa na publiko ng SMC, asr-006236 04:02:24.580 --> 04:02:30.020 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Sa kanilang dayuhang konsultan, natuklasan naming itinago ang pinakamahalagang datos. asr-006237 04:02:31.020 --> 04:02:43.340 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Number one po, ang ipinakita lamang sa publiko at sa gobyerno ay mga istatik o nakalarawang mapa at mga summarized na ulat na pumapabor sa kumpanya. asr-006238 04:02:43.340 --> 04:02:47.340 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Mga drawing na nagpapakitang walang magiging dagdag na baha. asr-006239 04:02:47.340 --> 04:03:03.700 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Ipinagkait at hindi sinapubliko ang mismong computer-run files, ang mga mathematical model, ang sukat ng lalim at lapad na mga ilog, river cross sections at mga bataya ng kanilang pagsusuri. asr-006240 04:03:04.180 --> 04:03:12.760 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Kung walang totoong computer files, hindi masusuri ng mga independenteng siyentipiko mula sa University of the Philippines? asr-006241 04:03:13.200 --> 04:03:16.180 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Kung totoo ba ang sinasabi ng SMC? asr-006242 04:03:16.180 --> 04:03:28.520 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: O kung sadyang lulunuri ng kanilang dambuhalang plataporma ang aming mga kabahayan kapag nagsabay ang malakas na bagyo, high tide at pagbabaw ng mga hinukay nilang ilog? asr-006243 04:03:29.380 --> 04:03:40.480 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Naging malaking pabigat din po, particular, with due respect po sa inyo, sa DNR, na sa halip na protektahan ang kalikasan at mamamayan, asr-006244 04:03:41.560 --> 04:03:45.320 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: sorry to tell you, naging tagapagtatak na lamang. asr-006245 04:03:45.320 --> 04:03:55.140 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: ng Environmental Compliance Certificate ng SMC, nang walang masusing pagsusuri at walang bukas na konsultasyon sa mga mamamayan. asr-006246 04:03:56.220 --> 04:04:14.640 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Hindi pinagana ng Environmental Management Bureau ang kapangyarihan nito sa ilalim ng PD 1586 at DAO 2003-30 upang obligahin ng kumpanya na ilabas ang buong datos at magsagawa ng agarang asr-006247 04:04:14.640 --> 04:04:16.740 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: ECC Compliance Audit. asr-006248 04:04:17.560 --> 04:04:39.520 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Hindi rin ginampana ng River Vision Control Office ng DNR ang mandato nito sa ilalim ng Executive Order No. 816 bilang tagapamahala ng pambansang database na mga ilog upang tiyaking ang pagbabago sa mga ilog ng bulakan ay hindi lumalabag sa pangkalatang plano sa flood control. asr-006249 04:04:39.520 --> 04:04:43.520 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Batay po dito, ang amin pong iminumungkahi. asr-006250 04:04:44.640 --> 04:04:57.360 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: With due respect po sa chairperson, pag-aralan pong mabuti, linawin ang kondisyon at pananagutan sa pagpapabaya sa bulakan. asr-006251 04:04:58.480 --> 04:05:02.560 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: As I said po, nagsasabi po ako ng karanasan namin. asr-006252 04:05:05.140 --> 04:05:14.160 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Pilitin ng DNR na mag-issue ng subpina o pormal na kautusan sa SMC upang isapubliko at ibigay sa mga unibersidad at komunidad. asr-006253 04:05:14.640 --> 04:05:20.760 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Ang kumpletong raw modeling files at datos ng DHI at Mott MacDonald. asr-006254 04:05:20.760 --> 04:05:43.260 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: At panghuli po, papanagutin ang SMC sa pinsanang idinulot sa kapuhayan ng mga mangisda at residente at magpatupad ng independenting audit sa pamumunuan ng mga eksperto at mga kinatawan ng mamamayan. asr-006255 04:05:43.260 --> 04:05:44.560 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: So kami po, asr-006256 04:05:44.640 --> 04:05:51.080 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: ayaw na po natin sanang narating na naman po yung mga unos, tag-ulan. asr-006257 04:05:53.520 --> 04:05:55.660 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Ganyan na lang po ang nangyayari sa amin. asr-006258 04:05:56.300 --> 04:05:59.140 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Hindi po kami naniniwala na kasi high tide. asr-006259 04:06:00.920 --> 04:06:04.860 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: And hindi naman po makatutuhan ng dahilan lamang po yun. asr-006260 04:06:05.960 --> 04:06:08.300 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: So kaya naman po natin gawa ng paraan. asr-006261 04:06:08.300 --> 04:06:14.380 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Kaya po, with due respect sa inyo po at mahal naming senadora, asr-006262 04:06:14.640 --> 04:06:21.640 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: gusto po naming marinig din po sa DNR ang kanilang mga kasagutan sa amin pong liham na ito. asr-006263 04:06:24.220 --> 04:06:26.460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po, Mr. Aparente. asr-006264 04:06:26.560 --> 04:06:35.340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At narinig po ng subcommittee yung, hindi lang yung mga salita, pero yung damdamin at kaisipan din sa inyong liham. asr-006265 04:06:35.500 --> 04:06:40.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po sa pagdalo rito at pagpapahayag niyan. asr-006266 04:06:40.520 --> 04:06:42.900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Would you like to respond, Secretary? asr-006267 04:06:43.220 --> 04:06:44.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Or at least, could you? asr-006268 04:06:44.640 --> 04:06:47.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Respond to them in writing before the plenary debate. asr-006269 04:06:47.860 --> 04:06:48.660 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Thank you very much. asr-006270 04:06:48.880 --> 04:06:53.560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We will respond comprehensively in writing, Mr. Aparente. asr-006271 04:06:53.560 --> 04:07:05.280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Pero offhand, tutulong po kami na kausapin yung proponent regarding yung request for the, yung data po na sinasabi ninyo. asr-006272 04:07:06.940 --> 04:07:14.560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Kakusapin po namin kung pwedeng ipabahagi kung anong available na datos na yung hinihingi po ninyo. asr-006273 04:07:14.640 --> 04:07:15.900 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Para makita ninyong clearly. asr-006274 04:07:16.100 --> 04:07:19.900 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I mean, offhand, yun ang, I can assure you, tutulong po kami dyan, Madam Chair. asr-006275 04:07:20.620 --> 04:07:28.460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: As far as the ECC issue ones is concerned naman, maybe Director Mike Matias can expound on this. asr-006276 04:07:28.560 --> 04:07:38.960 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: But offhand, as far as I know, there was a public consultation that was conducted for this. asr-006277 04:07:38.960 --> 04:07:43.960 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Pero maybe the extent, I really don't know. asr-006278 04:07:44.640 --> 04:07:46.640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So, Attorney Mike, meron ba tayong... asr-006279 04:07:47.320 --> 04:07:48.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Sec. Puna. asr-006280 04:07:49.380 --> 04:07:56.180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung dun sa commitment nyo na tutulong kayong kausapin yung proponent para maibahagi yung datos. asr-006281 04:07:56.360 --> 04:08:03.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: In particular, binanggit ni Mr. Aparente yung computer-run files, yung mathematical models, at dalawa pang items. asr-006282 04:08:04.440 --> 04:08:07.940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Director Matias, meron ba kayong brief na response? asr-006283 04:08:08.180 --> 04:08:13.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And or could you also respond to Bulacan Alliance for Reform in Writing? asr-006284 04:08:14.020 --> 04:08:14.620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you. asr-006285 04:08:14.640 --> 04:08:16.040 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Thank you, Madam Senator and Sir. asr-006286 04:08:17.740 --> 04:08:24.720 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Based on the EIA process, it went through the scoping and the public participation, which is a requirement. asr-006287 04:08:25.180 --> 04:08:32.360 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And given yung request, we'll coordinate with the release of the information. asr-006288 04:08:32.360 --> 04:08:43.280 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Kasi, Madam Senator, I think naka-anchor yung way forward dun sa information being asked by Sir Aparente. asr-006289 04:08:44.640 --> 04:08:46.240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Director Matias. asr-006290 04:08:46.400 --> 04:09:02.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hopefully, maging opening po yan, kabukasan po yan para makarating sa isang maayos na sagot dun sa tanong nila, Mr. Aparente, na paanong magagawang paraan dito sa sitwasyong ito. asr-006291 04:09:03.580 --> 04:09:05.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po muli, Mr. Aparente. asr-006292 04:09:06.180 --> 04:09:14.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mag-keep in touch po tayo sa subcommittee, papunta po sa budget plenaries para sa iba nyo pang follow-up questions. asr-006293 04:09:14.640 --> 04:09:22.140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At maaring mga proposed amendments for the consideration ng subcommittee in partnership sa department. asr-006294 04:09:22.840 --> 04:09:23.760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Maraming salamat. asr-006295 04:09:23.940 --> 04:09:24.840 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Salamat din po. asr-006296 04:09:25.340 --> 04:09:30.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Any other brief highlights na gusto nyong ibahagi from Civil Society? asr-006297 04:09:31.580 --> 04:09:34.380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mr. A.J. Montesa sa People's Budget Coalition. asr-006298 04:09:34.940 --> 04:09:36.560 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Yes. Maraming salamat po. asr-006299 04:09:36.660 --> 04:09:41.980 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Good afternoon, Madam Chair, Senator Hontiveros, DNR officials, and to our colleagues from Civil Society. asr-006300 04:09:42.220 --> 04:09:44.580 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: On behalf of the People's Budget Coalition, asr-006301 04:09:44.640 --> 04:09:50.720 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Ken Amante and myself, I would like to thank you, Sen. Teresa, for inviting us as resource persons. asr-006302 04:09:51.200 --> 04:09:53.820 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: I think we do need to acknowledge that this is a huge step. asr-006303 04:09:54.300 --> 04:10:00.160 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: This is the first time that civil society is being invited to a department budget hearing in at least 10 years. asr-006304 04:10:00.540 --> 04:10:11.500 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So we really do acknowledge how important this proceeding is for us and for restoring trust in the entire budget process after the damage that was done in the previous scandals. asr-006305 04:10:11.940 --> 04:10:14.620 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: For the DNR budget, we believe that there is no shortage. asr-006306 04:10:14.620 --> 04:10:16.200 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: There is no such thing as a natural disaster. asr-006307 04:10:16.700 --> 04:10:17.980 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: All disasters are man-made. asr-006308 04:10:18.840 --> 04:10:24.200 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Failures in planning, coordination, enforcement, and watershed protection make things worse. asr-006309 04:10:24.720 --> 04:10:32.340 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: And the flood control scandal of the last years showed billions of pesos spent on infrastructure while communities remain dangerously vulnerable. asr-006310 04:10:33.220 --> 04:10:34.480 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So we look to the DNR. asr-006311 04:10:34.480 --> 04:10:41.960 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: We expect an agency that will protect our watersheds, enforce environmental laws, scrutinize development projects, asr-006312 04:10:42.140 --> 04:10:44.480 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: and ensure that government investments do not aggravate asr-006313 04:10:44.620 --> 04:10:59.100 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: the very disasters that they are supposed to prevent. Our assessment is that the current version of the DNR budget will not adequately prepare us for typhoons, flooding, urban heat, and the extreme weather conditions worsened by the strong El Nino. asr-006314 04:10:59.800 --> 04:11:05.820 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: The budget of the DNR Office of the Secretary has been stuck at 16 to 20 billion pesos since 2018. asr-006315 04:11:05.820 --> 04:11:12.920 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: And accounting for inflation over the last 10 years, and even the recent depreciation of the peso and oil price hikes, asr-006316 04:11:13.240 --> 04:11:14.600 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: this means that the real budget... asr-006317 04:11:14.620 --> 04:11:18.300 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: of the department has fallen by about 30% in real terms. asr-006318 04:11:18.980 --> 04:11:24.180 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Capital outlays fell from 37% in 2018 to just 12% for this coming year. asr-006319 04:11:24.680 --> 04:11:28.800 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: And 1.8 billion pesos was left unobligated in 2025. asr-006320 04:11:29.620 --> 04:11:33.580 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: In the 2027 proposal, the Environmental Management Bureau, or EMB, asr-006321 04:11:33.880 --> 04:11:36.660 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: which issues and monitors environmental compliance certificates, asr-006322 04:11:37.140 --> 04:11:41.640 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: is the only attached bureau that was cut or reduced by 360 million pesos. asr-006323 04:11:41.640 --> 04:11:43.640 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So we want a stronger DNR that... asr-006324 04:11:44.620 --> 04:11:47.700 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: enforces our environmental laws to prevent these disasters. asr-006325 04:11:48.400 --> 04:11:52.280 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: But a bigger budget will not necessarily make communities safer asr-006326 04:11:52.280 --> 04:11:57.560 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: if the DNR keeps approving projects without studying these projects comprehensively. asr-006327 04:11:58.240 --> 04:12:01.300 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: To be frank, our civil society movements are very concerned asr-006328 04:12:01.300 --> 04:12:07.880 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: that DNR too often acts as a rubber stamp in its environmental impact assessment procedures. asr-006329 04:12:08.500 --> 04:12:12.680 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Feedback on the ground has been that the department proposes certifications and approvals asr-006330 04:12:12.680 --> 04:12:14.600 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: without sufficiently accounting for the impact of the environmental impact. asr-006331 04:12:14.620 --> 04:12:22.800 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So we need an agency that anticipates harm and not just one that merely responds asr-006332 04:12:22.800 --> 04:12:24.640 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: after the damage has already been done. asr-006333 04:12:25.520 --> 04:12:28.400 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So we illustrate three systemic issues using three cases. asr-006334 04:12:29.160 --> 04:12:30.620 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: First, the environmental... asr-006335 04:12:30.620 --> 04:12:32.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Briefly na lang, yung tatlo. asr-006336 04:12:33.080 --> 04:12:36.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Either enumerate the three or detail one, please. asr-006337 04:12:37.080 --> 04:12:37.420 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Thank you. asr-006338 04:12:37.760 --> 04:12:42.300 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: The first one is the environmental clearance of expressway projects, asr-006339 04:12:42.300 --> 04:12:43.600 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: especially the SALEX, asr-006340 04:12:43.600 --> 04:12:49.300 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: which is San Miguel's 40.65-kilometer Southern Access Link Expressway asr-006341 04:12:49.300 --> 04:12:55.220 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: na sasagasa sa mga puno, kalikasan, paaralan, ospital, negosyo at heritage asr-006342 04:12:55.220 --> 04:13:00.800 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: sa Quirina Rojas Boulevard, Padre Faura, Buendia, C3R10, and Shoreline Expressway. asr-006343 04:13:01.740 --> 04:13:06.560 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: The different civil society movements like Stop SALEX and Ilog Pasiglahin movements asr-006344 04:13:06.560 --> 04:13:09.940 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: have pointed out the bad impacts of elevated expressways asr-006345 04:13:09.940 --> 04:13:13.500 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: on health, traffic, heritage, environment, and economy. asr-006346 04:13:13.600 --> 04:13:17.620 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So we ask, why is the DENR approving elevated expressways asr-006347 04:13:17.620 --> 04:13:21.640 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: even when the most progressive cities in the world are tearing them down? asr-006348 04:13:22.160 --> 04:13:26.260 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So ang tanong po namin, why did the construction of a 40-kilometer expressway asr-006349 04:13:26.260 --> 04:13:29.100 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: proceed without a full environmental impact assessment? asr-006350 04:13:29.700 --> 04:13:34.380 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Why did it proceed with only three initial environmental examination checklists asr-006351 04:13:34.380 --> 04:13:36.660 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: covering a total of only 13 kilometers? asr-006352 04:13:37.280 --> 04:13:42.180 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: I think for the other two issues, I think my colleague Ken will just briefly touch on them po. asr-006353 04:13:42.180 --> 04:13:43.520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you. asr-006354 04:13:43.600 --> 04:13:47.880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: AJ, yes, Ken Abante from People's Budget Coalition. Briefly, please. asr-006355 04:13:47.960 --> 04:13:49.120 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Maraming salamat po, Sen. Teresa. asr-006356 04:13:49.300 --> 04:13:53.380 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Yung pangalawang karanasan po na gusto namin i-share ay sa tingin po namin napakahalaga asr-006357 04:13:53.380 --> 04:13:55.880 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: para po sa preparation natin sa El Ni?o at pagbaha. asr-006358 04:13:56.300 --> 04:13:59.420 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ito po yung karanasan sa sistema ng watershed restoration. asr-006359 04:14:00.100 --> 04:14:05.140 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Yung Upper Marikina Basin Protected Landscape covering 26,000 hectares in Rizal asr-006360 04:14:05.140 --> 04:14:09.580 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: ay protection po natin sa matinding pagbaha at tagtuyot sa buong Kamainilaan. asr-006361 04:14:09.580 --> 04:14:13.580 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Pero po, despite its protected status, the watershed remains severely asr-006362 04:14:13.600 --> 04:14:14.500 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: degraded. asr-006363 04:14:14.840 --> 04:14:22.840 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Yung forest cover po nito ay 25% na lamang against DENR's restoration target of 43% by 2028, asr-006364 04:14:23.080 --> 04:14:25.060 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: which we believe to still be too low. asr-006365 04:14:25.680 --> 04:14:30.480 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Dapat 72% to 90% ayon sa isang 2018 World Bank DENR study. asr-006366 04:14:30.980 --> 04:14:36.380 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: The higher the forest cover, the greater the water and disaster resilience benefits versus river runoffs. asr-006367 04:14:36.380 --> 04:14:43.380 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang status po ng restoration, 1,500 of these 26,000 hectares are in danger of incursion asr-006368 04:14:43.600 --> 04:14:48.320 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: 2 major projects need urgent review and finalization by the DENR. asr-006369 04:14:48.760 --> 04:14:52.320 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang una, si Rapid City at sister company nitong Quarry Rock asr-006370 04:14:52.320 --> 04:14:56.620 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: ay may quarrying projects na kinansinalanan ng DENR noong 2022. asr-006371 04:14:56.760 --> 04:14:58.040 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Maraming salamat po DENR. asr-006372 04:14:58.440 --> 04:15:00.080 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Pero hindi pa rin po finalized ang desisyon asr-006373 04:15:00.000 --> 04:15:06.320 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: sa kanilang motion for consideration, which potentially impacts 985 hectares. asr-006374 04:15:06.680 --> 04:15:10.720 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang pangalawang proyekto po ay ang VINA Energy na may application naman asr-006375 04:15:10.720 --> 04:15:16.300 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: para sa isang 553 hectares na special use agreement in protected areas or SAPA asr-006376 04:15:16.300 --> 04:15:18.260 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: at pending pa rin po ito sa DNR. asr-006377 04:15:18.700 --> 04:15:22.600 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: At may formal opposition na po dito ang Upper Marikina Watershed. asr-006378 04:15:23.220 --> 04:15:26.780 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So we hope, isa lang pong kaso ang Upper Marikina Watershed. asr-006379 04:15:26.780 --> 04:15:30.800 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We think this has to be one of the core issues that are discussed by the committee asr-006380 04:15:30.800 --> 04:15:36.160 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: and also in the plenary because we want prevention, not just damage control. asr-006381 04:15:36.820 --> 04:15:41.140 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And we also ask DNR to account for all the other watersheds in the country asr-006382 04:15:41.140 --> 04:15:45.340 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: because we are hearing from different civil society groups that this is also the case. asr-006383 04:15:45.840 --> 04:15:50.940 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And finally po, we think that DNR has a responsibility to also stop the flood control scandal. asr-006384 04:15:50.940 --> 04:15:56.520 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ayon po sa isang Action Klima Report, only 0.1% of the national budget asr-006385 04:15:56.520 --> 04:15:59.340 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: is spent on nature-based solutions. asr-006386 04:15:59.560 --> 04:16:04.560 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Karamihan po nang natag sa climate budget ay puro mga DPWH gray infrastructure. asr-006387 04:16:05.100 --> 04:16:12.680 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So we ask the DENR to please help us review the 7,054 projects worth 190 billion pesos asr-006388 04:16:12.680 --> 04:16:17.620 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: that we tagged were inserted by the House of Representatives without proper documentation. asr-006389 04:16:18.760 --> 04:16:21.000 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We ask for the Senate's help on this. asr-006390 04:16:21.220 --> 04:16:23.240 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We have the list. We have the maps. asr-006391 04:16:23.840 --> 04:16:26.500 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We are seeing many projects in many different areas. asr-006392 04:16:27.120 --> 04:16:30.320 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: That were inserted by the House without proper documentation. asr-006393 04:16:30.900 --> 04:16:35.500 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Please DNR, please help us make sure that these projects are proper. asr-006394 04:16:36.400 --> 04:16:42.900 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And just to summarize po, we hope that the committee supports us in the review of these expressway projects asr-006395 04:16:42.900 --> 04:16:46.740 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: and the incursions in the Upper Marikina Watershed and other watersheds asr-006396 04:16:46.740 --> 04:16:52.320 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: to publish the status and work with us on verifying all of these maps asr-006397 04:16:52.460 --> 04:16:56.340 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: and making sure that the scientific community is really part of the process, asr-006398 04:16:56.520 --> 04:16:58.160 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: of approving the projects. asr-006399 04:16:58.360 --> 04:16:59.120 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We are with you. asr-006400 04:16:59.760 --> 04:17:01.900 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Hindi na po natutulog ang aming mga angry nerds. asr-006401 04:17:01.900 --> 04:17:07.200 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So pag-check po ng 18,000 projects that were passed by the House. asr-006402 04:17:07.700 --> 04:17:10.920 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And we are committed, Senator Riza and Secretary Cuna, asr-006403 04:17:11.180 --> 04:17:14.520 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: to work with you on guarding our public money. asr-006404 04:17:16.700 --> 04:17:17.740 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Thank you. asr-006405 04:17:18.580 --> 04:17:21.920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ken Abante also from the People's Budget Coalition. asr-006406 04:17:22.840 --> 04:17:24.780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: The subcommittee hears you too. asr-006407 04:17:25.920 --> 04:17:26.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And... asr-006410 04:17:26.520 --> 04:17:34.080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Very well noted yung mga initial na follow-up questions or points that you have raised. asr-006411 04:17:34.600 --> 04:17:37.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And gaya ng sinabi ko rin kay Mr. Aparente, asr-006412 04:17:37.600 --> 04:17:41.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: asahan po namin ang subcommittee in partnership sa DNR asr-006413 04:17:41.200 --> 04:17:46.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung patuloy niyong engage sa amin papunta sa plenary. asr-006414 04:17:46.920 --> 04:17:52.860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Both for additional questions tulad ng dinagdag niyo ngayong hapon asr-006415 04:17:52.860 --> 04:17:56.400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at saka possible proposed amendments. asr-006416 04:17:56.400 --> 04:18:00.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I think very exciting yung possibilities dito. asr-006417 04:18:00.880 --> 04:18:02.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So let's do our best. asr-006418 04:18:03.640 --> 04:18:14.640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So I would like to thank, marami salamat po ang DNR at ang attached agency sa pagpresenta nyo ng budget para sa 2027. asr-006419 04:18:15.680 --> 04:18:25.360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Important issues ang nag-surface kasama na yung kakulangan ng paghahanda natin sa dumating na at tumitindi pang Super El Nino. asr-006420 04:18:25.360 --> 04:18:25.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So... asr-006421 04:18:25.560 --> 04:18:26.280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So... asr-006422 04:18:26.280 --> 04:18:31.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Asahan po ninyo na makikipagrabaho ang subcommittee sa department asr-006423 04:18:31.560 --> 04:18:39.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at saka sa finance committee chair para i-transform yung DNR budget sa isang El Nino ready budget asr-006424 04:18:39.720 --> 04:18:44.560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para ma-mitigate yung negatibong epekto sa ating kalikasan at sa ating mga kababayan. asr-006425 04:18:45.400 --> 04:18:45.660 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Senator? asr-006426 04:18:46.160 --> 04:18:46.540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes. asr-006427 04:18:46.700 --> 04:18:48.560 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ay ma'am, sorry. There was another... asr-006428 04:18:49.400 --> 04:18:49.660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hala! asr-006429 04:18:51.160 --> 04:18:54.260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: You should have said so earlier. That's what your mic is for. asr-006430 04:18:54.340 --> 04:18:54.800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you. asr-006431 04:18:55.040 --> 04:18:55.720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you again. asr-006432 04:18:55.720 --> 04:18:56.160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. asr-006433 04:18:56.160 --> 04:19:00.320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Briefly na lang please, Ms. Eunice of the Mangrove Breakthrough. asr-006434 04:19:00.960 --> 04:19:02.140 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: Mangrove Breakthrough. asr-006435 04:19:02.480 --> 04:19:03.320 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. asr-006436 04:19:03.320 --> 04:19:03.960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Two minutes please. asr-006437 04:19:04.100 --> 04:19:04.700 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: Very briefly. asr-006438 04:19:05.100 --> 04:19:10.220 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So I think our colleagues at the PBC have already talked about the upstream issues on watershed management. asr-006439 04:19:10.360 --> 04:19:13.580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: I'd like to focus on downstream to coastal communities. asr-006440 04:19:14.260 --> 04:19:15.320 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So I'm Eunice Tanilon. asr-006441 04:19:15.500 --> 04:19:19.000 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: Thank you so much to the subcommittee, Secretary Kuna, and our colleagues from DNR. asr-006442 04:19:19.460 --> 04:19:24.760 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: I'm Eunice Tanilon of the Mangrove Breakthrough, a global partnership of government, scientists, and investors asr-006443 04:19:24.760 --> 04:19:27.960 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: working to secure the world's mangroves by 2030. asr-006444 04:19:28.340 --> 04:19:35.200 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: Our partner is the Global Mangrove Alliance Philippines, comprised of key conservation organizations. asr-006445 04:19:35.980 --> 04:19:39.960 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: We work together with the DNR and the National Blue Carbon Action Partnership. asr-006446 04:19:39.960 --> 04:19:48.940 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So it's essentially a roadmap for five years on how to restore our key mangrove priority landscapes. asr-006447 04:19:49.720 --> 04:19:52.960 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So I think what I want to talk about this afternoon is to really just... asr-006448 04:19:52.960 --> 04:20:01.960 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: how difficult it's been to put together financing and money for the very large-scale coordination that's needed asr-006449 04:20:01.960 --> 04:20:05.260 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: to support restoration projects. asr-006450 04:20:05.920 --> 04:20:07.220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ms. Eunice, briefly please. asr-006451 04:20:07.440 --> 04:20:10.200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasi may pagkakataon pa tayo na mag-usap at makipagtrabaho. asr-006452 04:20:10.820 --> 04:20:12.060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Please proceed. asr-006453 04:20:12.240 --> 04:20:13.040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But please wind up. asr-006454 04:20:13.180 --> 04:20:19.040 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: I think to jump straight to our recommendations, we really hope that the DNR could fund, asr-006455 04:20:19.040 --> 04:20:22.160 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: and of course the committee could fund the foundations, asr-006456 04:20:22.160 --> 04:20:23.660 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: and put a date on protocol. asr-006457 04:20:23.660 --> 04:20:28.660 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So we would really like a national carbon stock assessment carried out with our universities, asr-006458 04:20:28.660 --> 04:20:30.660 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: funded through the research lines, asr-006459 04:20:30.660 --> 04:20:36.660 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: and a commitment that a blue carbon quantification protocol will be issued as a department order asr-006460 04:20:36.660 --> 04:20:39.160 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: by the end of the first quarter of 2027. asr-006461 04:20:39.160 --> 04:20:45.160 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: This has been the key item that's been blocking all of our conversations with investors. asr-006462 04:20:45.160 --> 04:20:51.160 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: We've been in conversations with ADB, AIIB, and also other banks in Singapore. asr-006463 04:20:51.160 --> 04:20:52.080 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: And a lot of... asr-006464 04:20:52.080 --> 04:20:56.580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: a lot of our conversations stalled because of the lack of these foundational items. asr-006465 04:20:56.580 --> 04:21:02.080 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: And secondly, we hope that a special provision in the DNR budget that accounts for blue carbon asr-006466 04:21:02.080 --> 04:21:08.080 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: separately from forest carbon requires the department to designate within 90 days asr-006467 04:21:08.080 --> 04:21:12.080 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: the bureau accountable for mangroves inside and outside protected areas asr-006468 04:21:12.080 --> 04:21:17.580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: and requires an annual public hectare count against the PSA mangrove accounts. asr-006469 04:21:17.580 --> 04:21:21.580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So we really hope with this that it gives every loan, grant, and private peso asr-006470 04:21:21.580 --> 04:21:24.580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: a public share to match against. asr-006471 04:21:24.580 --> 04:21:29.580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So we're very willing to help the Mangrove Breakthrough and Global Mangrove Alliance on these items. asr-006472 04:21:29.580 --> 04:21:31.580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: Thank you very much. asr-006473 04:21:31.580 --> 04:21:36.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you very much too, Mangrove Breakthrough. asr-006474 04:21:36.580 --> 04:21:42.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung blue carbon niyo very interesting kasi dinidinig nga namin yung blue economy bill asr-006475 04:21:42.580 --> 04:21:44.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Committee on Economic Affairs. asr-006476 04:21:44.580 --> 04:21:49.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And special provision, we love special provisions in the budget. asr-006477 04:21:49.580 --> 04:21:50.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: What is that? asr-006478 04:21:51.580 --> 04:21:56.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Platform towards making them regular line items in the following year's budget. asr-006479 04:21:56.580 --> 04:21:59.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, salamat, salamat sa inyo. asr-006480 04:21:59.580 --> 04:22:04.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I really share the excitement to, sabi ko nga kay SEC nung briefings namin, asr-006481 04:22:04.580 --> 04:22:09.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: to raise the profile of the department strategically in the years ahead. asr-006482 04:22:09.580 --> 04:22:14.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Starting, continuing now, especially dito sa panahon ng Super El Nino. asr-006483 04:22:14.580 --> 04:22:20.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And for the department to have more naman than 1% of the budget. asr-006484 04:22:21.580 --> 04:22:29.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 0.1, oh my God, okay, 0.1% of the budget and to spend it optimally. asr-006485 04:22:29.580 --> 04:22:35.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Anyway, so to continue, I was just going to close our hearing for today. asr-006486 04:22:35.580 --> 04:22:42.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So yun, seryoso yung i-consider din namin yung inputs mula sa CSO partners asr-006487 04:22:42.580 --> 04:22:45.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa transformation ito ng DNR budget. asr-006488 04:22:45.580 --> 04:22:50.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, sa ganyan, gusto kong formal na i-endorse yung budget ng DNR sa plenary. asr-006489 04:22:51.580 --> 04:22:55.580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Suspended yung hearing natin. Maraming salamat po mga kasama. asr-006490 04:22:55.580 --> 04:22:58.580 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Thank you very much Madam Chair. Thank you very much.