1 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:26,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: [unclear] natin ngayon ang budget ng Department of Environment and Natural Resources para sa susunod na taon. At kasama diyan ay ang paghahanda natin sa napakalaking panganib na haharapin ng ating bansa, ang banta ng Super El Ni?o. 2 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ngayon pa lang, ramdam na natin ang epekto nito. 3 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:37,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At inaasahan na titindi ang hagupit nito sa mga susunod na buwan o hanggang sa unang bahagi ng 2027. 4 00:11:38,140 --> 00:11:44,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Babala ng mga eksperto, ito ang pinakamalalang El Niño sa nakalipas na limampung taon. 5 00:11:45,060 --> 00:11:49,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Iyan ang nakaambang banta sa ating ekonomiya at kinabukasan ng bansa. 6 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hindi pwedeng taong bayan lang ang mag-a-adjust. 7 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: DENR must step up to an historic challenge. 8 00:11:57,700 --> 00:12:05,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: It will be a critical and leading agency in the government's response to this looming risk of widespread drought. 9 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:13,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: The agency's work will have real, much-felt implications on the economy, health, and daily living conditions of millions. 10 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Nasa pangangasiwan ng DENR ang mga ahensyang may kinalaman sa tubig. 11 00:12:20,140 --> 00:12:26,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At wala pa mga El Niño, kabikabila na ang mga reklamo ng mga residente sa ilang bahagi ng bansa 12 00:12:26,540 --> 00:12:32,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dahil walang tubig sa gripo o kung kaya naman ay mayroon, marumi naman. 13 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:41,620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Filipino people expect agility in the response and fitness for purpose of the budget of frontline agencies such as the DENR. 14 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Its budget should reflect this. 15 00:12:44,020 --> 00:12:53,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Dapat buhusan ng pondo ang paghahanda at emergency response sa paparating na tagtuyot para maibsan ang dagok nito sa bawat Pilipino. 16 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Dapat pondohan ang mga small water impoundment 17 00:12:56,540 --> 00:13:02,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: systems na magsisilbing tagasalo ng tubig-ulan para magamit sa tagtuyot. 18 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:10,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Gamitin ang mga available technology tulad ng atmospheric water stations ng Local Water Utilities Administration 19 00:13:10,780 --> 00:13:15,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para makahanap ng ibang pagkukuna ng maiinum na tubig. 20 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:24,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At higit sa lahat ang pagsuporta sa nature-based solutions para protektahan at pasaganahin ang ating mga ecosystem 21 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: laban sa mga palalangkot. 22 00:13:26,540 --> 00:13:56,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Alinsunod din sa pagsusulong ng budget transparency na sinimulan ni Senate President Sherwin noong siya ay Finance Chair at pinagpapatuloy ngayon ni Chair JV, inimbitahan namin ang representatives ng Civil Society Organizations para makinig at maghanda ng kanilang mga mungkahi at pananaw. Sa unang tingin pa lang, dapat ayusin ang budget ng DENR para gawin itong handa na tugunan ang epekto ng El Ni?o. 23 00:13:56,540 --> 00:14:11,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa kabila ng limitadong fiscal space, may mga oportunidad sa General Appropriations Bill na pwede nating mapakinabangan para mas mapalakas ang paghahanda at pagkilo sa susunod na taon. 24 00:14:12,020 --> 00:14:20,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Beyond numbers, we need to know what we can do, can't do, and should do to avoid a nationwide crisis. 25 00:14:21,060 --> 00:14:25,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: The Chair acknowledges the presence of the Minority Leader, Sen. Alan Cayetano. 26 00:14:26,540 --> 00:14:28,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you for your presence. 27 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:34,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Would you like to make any opening statement, Mayno, before I ask the ComSec to recognize our resource persons? 28 00:14:34,580 --> 00:14:35,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you very much, Madam Chair. 29 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And I'd just like to second not only your statement today. 30 00:14:39,500 --> 00:14:46,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You've been consistent since we were in Congress together about the importance of the environment. 31 00:14:46,620 --> 00:14:50,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And of course, we're going to fully discuss that today and in the plenary. 32 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Maybe my one cent lang sa opening is, Sen. 33 00:14:54,380 --> 00:15:00,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But Sunny Angara said that yung cluster ng education is doing pretty well. 34 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa cabinet. And I'm happy 35 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that an old hand in DNR, 36 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: not an old person, but an old hand 37 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: coming, you know, 38 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: being promoted from 39 00:15:09,940 --> 00:15:10,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the ranks is there. 40 00:15:11,580 --> 00:15:13,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think for the future, talagang yung 41 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: education eh. So baka yung 42 00:15:15,980 --> 00:15:17,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: environment 43 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and ecology sa 44 00:15:19,180 --> 00:15:21,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: curriculum ng elementary to high school. 45 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi if you remember when we were 46 00:15:23,660 --> 00:15:25,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: college or 47 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: started working, 48 00:15:27,980 --> 00:15:29,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kilalang-kilala yung sa Palawan nun, 49 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung kay Mayor Hagedorn, 50 00:15:31,420 --> 00:15:32,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi pag nagtapon ka 51 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng upos ng sigarilyo or 52 00:15:35,780 --> 00:15:37,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung 53 00:15:37,820 --> 00:15:39,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: chewing gum or whatever, 54 00:15:39,860 --> 00:15:41,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bata yung lalapit sa'yo at 55 00:15:41,340 --> 00:15:43,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sasabihin, Palawan to or Puerto 56 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Princesa to, wag ka magtapon 57 00:15:45,700 --> 00:15:46,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dito eh. So 58 00:15:46,860 --> 00:15:49,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I can bring up anything now, the 59 00:15:49,180 --> 00:15:51,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sierra Madre, I can bring up Laguna Lake, 60 00:15:51,380 --> 00:15:52,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I can bring up, but 61 00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:55,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 10, 15, 20 years from now, I think 62 00:15:55,460 --> 00:15:57,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what will make an impact is not only 63 00:15:57,460 --> 00:15:59,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the strict enforcement 64 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:01,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of the law, but the education eh. 65 00:16:01,380 --> 00:16:03,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Getting talaga into every Filipino. 66 00:16:03,260 --> 00:16:05,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So yun lang siguro ang ipapakiusap ko 67 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kay Secretary, yung ma-work 68 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: out with Sec Sonny and maybe CHED 69 00:16:09,060 --> 00:16:11,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na talagang madikdik sa 70 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: utak ng ating next generation 71 00:16:13,300 --> 00:16:15,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that you protect 72 00:16:15,420 --> 00:16:17,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the environment, then the environment protects 73 00:16:17,420 --> 00:16:18,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you. Thank you very much, Madam Chair. 74 00:16:19,660 --> 00:16:20,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Marami salamat din, Mayno. 75 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ComSec, pakikilalaanin 76 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung mga resource persons natin para ngayon. 77 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,140 Committee Secretary: Good afternoon. 78 00:16:27,700 --> 00:16:29,260 Committee Secretary: The Committee on Finance subcommittee, 79 00:16:29,300 --> 00:16:31,080 Committee Secretary: we would like to acknowledge the presence 80 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,920 Committee Secretary: of our distinguished guests, namely 81 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,500 Committee Secretary: from the Department 82 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:37,180 Committee Secretary: of Environment and Natural Resources, 83 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,000 Committee Secretary: Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna, 84 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Jonas 85 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,740 Committee Secretary: R. Leones, Undersecretary 86 00:16:43,740 --> 00:16:45,320 Committee Secretary: Annalisa Revueltate, 87 00:16:46,220 --> 00:16:47,180 Committee Secretary: Undersecretary 88 00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:49,460 Committee Secretary: Jocelyn Marcos Ragada, 89 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:51,700 Committee Secretary: Undersecretary 90 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:53,400 Committee Secretary: Ignatius Loyola A. Rodriguez, 91 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:55,740 Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary 92 00:16:55,740 --> 00:16:57,040 Committee Secretary: Norlito A. Eneran, 93 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,880 Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Michael 94 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,300 Committee Secretary: V. Cabalda, Assistant Secretary 95 00:17:01,300 --> 00:17:02,540 Committee Secretary: Ricky A. Arzadon, 96 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,260 Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Hiro V. Masuda, 97 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,660 Committee Secretary: Engineer Maria 98 00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:08,780 Committee Secretary: Dorica Nazipe, 99 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,620 Committee Secretary: from the Bureau 100 00:17:11,620 --> 00:17:13,300 Committee Secretary: Directors, we have Director Arturo 101 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:14,820 Committee Secretary: E. Padriquela, 102 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,120 Committee Secretary: Assistant Director 103 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:18,760 Committee Secretary: Mariglo Rosayda Laririt, 104 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,540 Committee Secretary: Director Conrado B. Marquez, 105 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,240 Committee Secretary: Director Michael Drake P. Matias, 106 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,120 Committee Secretary: Director Larry M. 107 00:17:27,260 --> 00:17:28,700 Committee Secretary: Heradez, from the 108 00:17:28,700 --> 00:17:30,800 Committee Secretary: Attached Agencies, we have 109 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,620 Committee Secretary: from Namria, 110 00:17:33,180 --> 00:17:34,720 Committee Secretary: Administrator Dr. Peter 111 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:35,420 Committee Secretary: Tiangco, 112 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,560 Committee Secretary: from NWRB, we have 113 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,700 Committee Secretary: Dr. Sevilio D. David Jr., 114 00:17:42,020 --> 00:17:44,940 Committee Secretary: from the Palawan Council for Sustainable 115 00:17:44,940 --> 00:17:46,560 Committee Secretary: Development Staff, Attorney 116 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,040 Committee Secretary: Teodoro Jose S. Mata, 117 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:49,960 Committee Secretary: Chief Regulator, 118 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,540 Committee Secretary: from the MWSS Regulatory Office, 119 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,520 Committee Secretary: Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Enti, 120 00:17:55,980 --> 00:17:56,860 Committee Secretary: from the 121 00:17:56,860 --> 00:17:58,620 Committee Secretary: Local Water Utilities Administration, 122 00:17:58,700 --> 00:18:00,540 Committee Secretary: we have Attorney Jose Moises Salonga, 123 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:02,660 Committee Secretary: from the Laguna Lake 124 00:18:02,660 --> 00:18:04,560 Committee Secretary: Development Authority, Acting General 125 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,060 Committee Secretary: Manager Leopoldo V. Parumo, 126 00:18:06,860 --> 00:18:08,740 Committee Secretary: also present 127 00:18:08,740 --> 00:18:10,420 Committee Secretary: are from the DNR Regional 128 00:18:10,420 --> 00:18:12,640 Committee Secretary: Offices, some are from 129 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,660 Committee Secretary: some are Zoom attendees po. 130 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,360 Committee Secretary: From the private stakeholders, 131 00:18:22,660 --> 00:18:24,500 Committee Secretary: we have from Bulacan Alliance 132 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:26,440 Committee Secretary: for Reform, Mr. Avelino 133 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:27,300 Committee Secretary: P. Aparente, 134 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:29,800 Committee Secretary: from 135 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:36,840 Committee Secretary: from People's Budget 136 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,520 Committee Secretary: Coalition, we have Mr. Ken Abante, 137 00:18:38,620 --> 00:18:40,300 Committee Secretary: Mr. A.J. Montesa, 138 00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:42,780 Committee Secretary: and from Mangrove Breakthrough, we have 139 00:18:42,780 --> 00:18:43,600 Committee Secretary: Missionista Nilon. 140 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,040 Committee Secretary: That would be all, Madam Chair. 141 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po, ComSec. 142 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:50,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And 143 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: with the considerations na tatalakay 144 00:18:52,940 --> 00:18:53,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: natin ngayong araw, 145 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:56,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: iniimbit ako yung mga 146 00:18:56,740 --> 00:18:58,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: colleagues namin, 147 00:18:58,700 --> 00:19:00,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at mga kinatawan mula sa 148 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: civil society at people's organizations 149 00:19:02,420 --> 00:19:04,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na sama-samang makinig 150 00:19:04,580 --> 00:19:06,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa budget presentations 151 00:19:06,460 --> 00:19:08,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng DNR, at yung mga 152 00:19:08,540 --> 00:19:10,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: attached at supervised agencies 153 00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:12,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: niya, at magsumite 154 00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:14,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga tanong sa chair bilang 155 00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:16,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: paghahanda sa budget plenary 156 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para tiyakin natin ang sama-sama 157 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na yung 2027 budget 158 00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:22,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ay magiging talagang 159 00:19:22,220 --> 00:19:24,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: step forward patungo sa 160 00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:26,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: transformative social protection. 161 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, Sec Cuna, 162 00:19:28,700 --> 00:19:30,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: you have the floor for the 163 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:31,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: department presentation. 164 00:19:32,340 --> 00:19:33,480 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Thank you very much, Madam Chair. 165 00:19:34,180 --> 00:19:35,640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Good morning, Madam Chair, and 166 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: sorry, good afternoon, Madam Chair, 167 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,160 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and to the minority leader, 168 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:41,320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Sen. Alan Cayetano. 169 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:43,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Isang kalikasang 170 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,380 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: pagbati po sa inyo lahat. With your permission, 171 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:48,780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and with the committee's kind indulgence, 172 00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:50,560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: allow me to present the key highlights 173 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,060 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of our proposed fiscal year 174 00:19:52,060 --> 00:19:54,460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 2027 budget and strategic 175 00:19:54,460 --> 00:19:55,000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: priorities. 176 00:19:55,940 --> 00:19:57,100 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: The DNR 177 00:19:57,100 --> 00:19:58,660 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: respectfully requests a total 178 00:19:58,700 --> 00:20:00,540 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: budget of 28.04 179 00:20:00,540 --> 00:20:02,720 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: billion pesos. This covers 180 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: our central office, 17 181 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:06,660 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: regional offices, line and 182 00:20:06,660 --> 00:20:08,820 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: staff bureaus, and attached agencies 183 00:20:08,820 --> 00:20:10,220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: as we safeguard 184 00:20:10,220 --> 00:20:12,620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 15.8 million hectares of classified 185 00:20:12,620 --> 00:20:14,340 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: forest lands and over 186 00:20:14,340 --> 00:20:16,420 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 36,000 kilometers of coastline. 187 00:20:17,340 --> 00:20:18,760 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Amid fiscal space limitations, 188 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:20,560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we commit to channeling 189 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,240 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: these resources 190 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: toward three highly impactful 191 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,660 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: pillars. First, 192 00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:28,420 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we are unlocking our natural capital, 193 00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:30,500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to drive sustainable and inclusive 194 00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:31,560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: economic development. 195 00:20:32,460 --> 00:20:34,640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We are shifting the national greening program 196 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: toward a comprehensive 197 00:20:35,780 --> 00:20:38,540 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: forest landscape restoration approach, 198 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: prioritizing major ecological 199 00:20:40,780 --> 00:20:42,760 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: zones, such as the Sierra Madre 200 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Protected Landscape. 201 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,340 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: For fiscal year 2027, 202 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,360 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: our focus shall be empowering 203 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:50,180 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: community-based social enterprises 204 00:20:50,180 --> 00:20:52,080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that restore biodiversity 205 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and secure sustainable livelihoods. 206 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: To grant tenure security 207 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,360 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and unlock vital financial capital, 208 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:00,780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we are aggressively scaling up 209 00:21:00,780 --> 00:21:01,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: land titling to issue 210 00:21:01,980 --> 00:21:04,100 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 43,000 land patents, 211 00:21:04,580 --> 00:21:06,720 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: including residential, agricultural, 212 00:21:07,140 --> 00:21:09,060 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and special patents in 2027. 213 00:21:09,940 --> 00:21:10,960 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: On minerals development, 214 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:12,800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we are driving toward 215 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: a 2% mining GDP 216 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,180 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: contribution by 2028, 217 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: up from 0.74% 218 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,660 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: in 2025. 219 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We are expanding small-scale mining 220 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:24,560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: opportunities through the Minahang Bayan Program 221 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and fast-tracking 43 222 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,380 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: critical mineral quadrangle 223 00:21:28,380 --> 00:21:30,200 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: mapping assessments, 224 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:37,200 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: strictly balanced with rigorous compliance monitoring and enforcement. Second, we are advancing environmental quality 225 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and safeguarding water security. 226 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:41,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: In light of the forecasted 227 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:42,880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: El Nino conditions persisting through 228 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:43,700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 2027, 229 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we are implementing proactive water supply 230 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,380 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: augmentation, infrastructure upgrades, 231 00:21:49,820 --> 00:21:51,000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and critical operational 232 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: adjustments. These measures 233 00:21:53,140 --> 00:21:54,920 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: are coordinated among key water 234 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: agencies alongside demand 235 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,840 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: management measures. 236 00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:00,700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Public conservation information drives 237 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:02,700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and consumption monitoring. 238 00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:05,700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We are allocating 239 00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:07,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 124 million pesos 240 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,160 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: in direct financial assistance 241 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to local water districts 242 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:12,940 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to expand reliable clean water 243 00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:14,700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: access to isolated and 244 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:15,700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: unserved barangays. 245 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,580 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: On circular economy and solid waste 246 00:22:18,580 --> 00:22:20,540 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: management, through the Extended 247 00:22:20,540 --> 00:22:21,960 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Producer Responsibility Act, 248 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we have mobilized over 1,000 249 00:22:24,460 --> 00:22:26,540 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: obliged enterprises, 250 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,540 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: successfully diverting 251 00:22:28,700 --> 00:22:30,940 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 244 million kilograms 252 00:22:30,940 --> 00:22:33,200 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of plastic packaging footprint 253 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: from terrestrial and marine ecosystems. 254 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,900 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Additionally, we are providing direct technical 255 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:42,260 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: assistance to operationalize materials recovery 256 00:22:42,260 --> 00:22:45,100 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: facilities in 4,400 barangays. 257 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:48,060 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We likewise continue our aggressive cleanup 258 00:22:48,060 --> 00:22:51,340 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and rehabilitation of vital urban waterways, 259 00:22:51,340 --> 00:22:53,940 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: particularly the Manila Bay, Pasig River 260 00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:55,460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: system, and Laguna Lake. 261 00:22:55,460 --> 00:22:58,700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Third, we are reinforcing natural 262 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:00,160 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: defense systems and scaling 263 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,860 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: science-based climate adaptation. 264 00:23:02,860 --> 00:23:04,460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Through the Mines and Geosciences Bureau, 265 00:23:04,460 --> 00:23:06,460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: our 24-7 Geo Hazards 266 00:23:06,460 --> 00:23:08,440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Operations Center issues 267 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,300 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: real-time threat advisories 268 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:12,460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to LGUs, prioritizing 269 00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:14,840 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: the 18 high-exposure provinces 270 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,240 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: identified under the National Adaptation Plan. 271 00:23:18,340 --> 00:23:19,580 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We have institutionalized 272 00:23:19,580 --> 00:23:21,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: the International Union for Conservation 273 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,860 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of Nature Global Standard for Nature-Based Solutions 274 00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:28,420 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: under DNR Administrative Order 275 00:23:28,420 --> 00:23:31,260 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 2026-30. 276 00:23:31,260 --> 00:23:33,660 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: For Fiscal Year 2027, 277 00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:35,800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we have allocated 28 million pesos 278 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,720 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: across four target river basins 279 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,360 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for flood mitigation 280 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:41,140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and 10 million to update 281 00:23:41,140 --> 00:23:43,880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: integrated river basin master plans 282 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for the Buayan, Malungon, 283 00:23:46,220 --> 00:23:49,360 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Agno, and Pampanga River Basins. 284 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,020 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We are strengthening active management 285 00:23:51,020 --> 00:23:54,180 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: across 121 legislated protected areas 286 00:23:54,180 --> 00:23:56,880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: covering 4.51 million hectares 287 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,340 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and expanding marine protected areas. 288 00:23:58,340 --> 00:24:03,620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Underpinning all of these strategic priorities 289 00:24:03,620 --> 00:24:05,440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: is the institutional shift brought about 290 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,160 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: by the PENCAS law. 291 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,060 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: By establishing site-specific ecosystem accounts, 292 00:24:11,060 --> 00:24:14,000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we are assigning tangible economic value 293 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to nature services, 294 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,480 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: ensuring data-driven planning and resource allocation. 295 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,100 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: To conclude, Madam Chair and honorable members, 296 00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:25,340 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: environment and financing is a high return investment 297 00:24:25,340 --> 00:24:28,220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: in nature-positive, climate-resilient, 298 00:24:28,220 --> 00:24:30,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and sustainable Filipino communities and livelihoods. 299 00:24:30,980 --> 00:24:32,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We respectfully request your full support 300 00:24:32,980 --> 00:24:36,440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: in passing the DNR Fiscal Year 2027 budget. 301 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Thank you very much, Madam Chair. 302 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you, Secretary. 303 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Parang ang bilis ng presentation. 304 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I was trying to keep up. 305 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And, 306 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:51,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kung tama po yung nahuli ko, 307 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I was looking out for yung mga major interventions 308 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng department in the incoming year 309 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: with regards to the Super El Niño. 310 00:24:58,220 --> 00:25:00,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At saka nature-based solutions. 311 00:25:00,940 --> 00:25:06,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ang nahuli ko lang ay you mentioned something about 312 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tama ba, 124 million pesos? 313 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:11,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: There was an item you mentioned 314 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kaugnay ng El Niño plan update ninyo 315 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa water sector. 316 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,820 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Just for the local water districts, Madam Chair. 317 00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:19,560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Just for the local water districts. 318 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:19,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. 319 00:25:20,300 --> 00:25:22,860 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: But there are other, if I may, Madam Chair. 320 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, yes. 321 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,400 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: There are many other interventions 322 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,400 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of the different departments 323 00:25:28,220 --> 00:25:30,220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and water-related entities 324 00:25:30,220 --> 00:25:32,220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that are all here represented. 325 00:25:32,220 --> 00:25:33,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: All right. 326 00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:35,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So i-follow up ko yan in a bit. 327 00:25:35,220 --> 00:25:38,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then dun sa nature-based solutions naman, 328 00:25:38,220 --> 00:25:40,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: narinig ko sa Pillar 3 329 00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:43,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: that amount of 28.08 million pesos. 330 00:25:43,220 --> 00:25:45,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, that's for the NBS, 331 00:25:45,220 --> 00:25:47,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: for the whole department already? 332 00:25:49,220 --> 00:25:51,220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: This is particularly, Madam Chair, 333 00:25:51,220 --> 00:25:54,220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for the four target river basins 334 00:25:54,220 --> 00:25:55,220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for flood mitigation. 335 00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:56,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. 336 00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:57,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, just for the target, 337 00:25:57,220 --> 00:25:57,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: four target river basins. 338 00:25:57,980 --> 00:25:58,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yes. 339 00:25:58,980 --> 00:26:00,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Apat yun? 340 00:26:00,980 --> 00:26:01,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yes, Madam Chair. 341 00:26:01,980 --> 00:26:02,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. 342 00:26:02,980 --> 00:26:03,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, just four out of the, 343 00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:05,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: how many river basins in the whole country? 344 00:26:05,980 --> 00:26:06,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Eighteen? 345 00:26:06,980 --> 00:26:07,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Eighteen, Madam Chair. 346 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:08,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Four out of eighteen. 347 00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:09,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. 348 00:26:09,980 --> 00:26:11,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, let me follow up the one about 349 00:26:11,980 --> 00:26:13,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the 124 million pesos, 350 00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:15,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: particularly for the local water districts 351 00:26:15,980 --> 00:26:17,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa El Niño plan ninyo. 352 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:24,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yun din yung unang tanong ko. 353 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:27,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sapat na po ba itong mga programa 354 00:26:27,980 --> 00:26:30,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa pinaghahandaan nating Super El Niño? 355 00:26:30,980 --> 00:26:34,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At alin sa mga programa ay dapat pang dagdagan ng pondo ngayon? 356 00:26:34,980 --> 00:26:37,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, maybe you could give us the complete picture. 357 00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:39,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ano-ano yung mga items, 358 00:26:39,980 --> 00:26:42,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: even if it's the attached agencies that will detail, 359 00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:45,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ano-anong mga items sa buong budget ng department 360 00:26:45,980 --> 00:26:49,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ang nakalaan para paghandaan at tugunan yung Super El Niño? 361 00:26:49,980 --> 00:26:51,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And what's the overall amount? 362 00:26:51,980 --> 00:26:53,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At sapat na po ba ito? 363 00:26:53,980 --> 00:26:55,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And going back to the details, 364 00:26:55,980 --> 00:26:56,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kung hindi man ito sapat pa, 365 00:26:56,980 --> 00:26:58,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ano-ano pa yung mga dapat dagdagan? 366 00:26:58,980 --> 00:27:03,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Before I turn over to Undersecretary Anate, Madam Chair, 367 00:27:03,980 --> 00:27:08,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: just to give you an idea of the different measures and efforts 368 00:27:08,980 --> 00:27:13,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that have been exerted to address the upcoming Super El Niño. 369 00:27:13,980 --> 00:27:18,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: For here in the NCR region, Madam Chair, 370 00:27:18,980 --> 00:27:21,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of course, we're working with MWSS, 371 00:27:21,980 --> 00:27:22,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: with the two water concessionaires, 372 00:27:22,980 --> 00:27:33,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and there are 61 newly re-energized deep wells 373 00:27:33,980 --> 00:27:36,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that are already operational. 374 00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:38,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: As far as stationary tanks are concerned, 375 00:27:38,980 --> 00:27:40,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: there are 135. 376 00:27:40,980 --> 00:27:43,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: For mobile tankers, 182. 377 00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:49,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And then the DNR has about 15 units 378 00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:51,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of what we call the, 379 00:27:51,980 --> 00:27:58,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: water bladders donated by the Netherlands government 380 00:27:58,980 --> 00:28:01,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that we're also stationing in strategic areas 381 00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:07,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that may need water supply eventually 382 00:28:07,980 --> 00:28:11,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: if the case reaches the worst scenario. 383 00:28:11,980 --> 00:28:13,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Then of course, 384 00:28:13,980 --> 00:28:18,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: there's also going to be regulating of pressure management 385 00:28:18,980 --> 00:28:20,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to minimize this. 386 00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:23,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: To conserve water. 387 00:28:23,980 --> 00:28:28,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I also sent to the Office of the President, 388 00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:29,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, 389 00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:32,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: a possible memorandum circular 390 00:28:32,980 --> 00:28:35,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to be issued by the President 391 00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:38,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to at least direct and mandate 392 00:28:38,980 --> 00:28:41,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: all government offices 393 00:28:41,980 --> 00:28:44,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and instrumentalities of government 394 00:28:44,980 --> 00:28:48,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to observe strict conservation measures. 395 00:28:48,980 --> 00:28:49,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Because, 396 00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:52,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: as maybe later, 397 00:28:52,980 --> 00:28:59,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: MWSS and LUA can make a statement on this 398 00:28:59,980 --> 00:29:01,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: regarding non-revenue water, 399 00:29:01,980 --> 00:29:04,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: which means yung mga leakage po natin, 400 00:29:04,980 --> 00:29:06,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: there's quite a big percentage of this, 401 00:29:06,980 --> 00:29:08,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: which we would like to minimize, 402 00:29:08,980 --> 00:29:10,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and one way would be for instance 403 00:29:10,980 --> 00:29:12,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for at least government offices 404 00:29:12,980 --> 00:29:17,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: to close the valves of the main water sources 405 00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:18,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: in the different buildings. 406 00:29:18,980 --> 00:29:21,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: At a certain time 407 00:29:21,980 --> 00:29:24,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: during the night, 408 00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:25,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair. 409 00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:27,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: If you will allow me, Madam Chair, 410 00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:29,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I'll pass on to Undersecretary Anate 411 00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:31,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for the specifics on the figures. 412 00:29:31,980 --> 00:29:32,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please. 413 00:29:32,980 --> 00:29:33,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And later, 414 00:29:33,980 --> 00:29:34,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: let's follow up that point about 415 00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:37,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: saan kailangan tayo maghigpit 416 00:29:37,980 --> 00:29:39,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para the essential water supply 417 00:29:39,980 --> 00:29:41,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: will still reach people. 418 00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:42,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But of course, 419 00:29:42,980 --> 00:29:44,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kailangan italakay niyo yun 420 00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:46,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: in a comprehensive program 421 00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:47,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para hindi mag-panic ang 422 00:29:47,980 --> 00:29:49,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kung sinong kaagad 423 00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:51,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kaagad maapektuhan, 424 00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:52,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pero maintindihan 425 00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:55,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: bakit kailangan natin i-prioritize 426 00:29:55,980 --> 00:29:58,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: certain water needs of people 427 00:29:58,980 --> 00:29:59,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: just so we can... 428 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: stretch out the existing supply at umabot tayo, no, past the Super El Nino. 429 00:30:05,140 --> 00:30:06,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Yusek Analiza, please. 430 00:30:07,220 --> 00:30:08,240 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Thank you, Madam Chair. 431 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:15,240 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Madam Chair, if we will consider the other programs, projects, and activities within the department, 432 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,500 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: we can, by attribution, we can say that there's about 1.7 billion pesos 433 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:25,100 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: that can actually be considered as nature-based solutions. 434 00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:30,940 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So, this one is from Forest Development, Rehabilitation, Maintenance, and Protection, 435 00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:38,280 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: where we implement enhanced planting, assisted natural generation, reforestation, agroforestry, 436 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:43,260 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and this is also where maintenance and protection for the National Greening Program is included. 437 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,840 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: The second one is with respect to soil conservation, 438 00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:53,460 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: where we undertake, we plan to undertake the scaling up of nature-based solutions 439 00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:54,900 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: for flood risk reduction. 440 00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:56,380 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Then, water resource management. 441 00:30:56,860 --> 00:31:00,660 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: This is, Madam Chair, the one that you mentioned about the 28 million pesos. 442 00:31:01,420 --> 00:31:04,680 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: And then, establishment of vegetative messures. 443 00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:12,680 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: We also consider the maintenance and protection of about 7,000 hectares in the protected areas 444 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,360 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: as part of our nature-based solutions. 445 00:31:15,940 --> 00:31:21,820 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Support to livelihood, such as social enterprise development for NGP products 446 00:31:21,820 --> 00:31:25,080 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and biodiversity-friendly enterprise under the Coastal. 447 00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:30,800 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: And marine are also considered as part of the nature-based solutions. 448 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:37,200 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: And then, the soil conservation primarily to form, strengthen, or operationalize 449 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,840 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: the 54 Watershed Mitigation Councils. 450 00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:44,620 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: In terms of enforcement, Madam Chair, we also included here 451 00:31:44,620 --> 00:31:48,100 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: LAWIN Forest and Biodiversity Protection System. 452 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:54,860 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So, in total, there's about 1.7 billion pesos, Madam Chair. 453 00:31:55,100 --> 00:32:00,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, 1.7 billion out of the total requested, as it stands now, 28 billion. 454 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, that's like 5% of the whole department budget, 455 00:32:04,580 --> 00:32:06,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: particularly for nature-based solutions. 456 00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:10,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Itong total amount ba so far for nature-based solutions, 457 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:18,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pareho na rin ito dun sa kabuo ang halaga na nakalaan para sa Super El Nino? 458 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Or magkakaiba yun? Or may overlap ba yun? 459 00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:23,320 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: May overlap, Madam Chair. 460 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,320 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: We still have to... 461 00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:33,880 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: segregate exactly what will be allocated for the very strong El Nino, Madam Chair. 462 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Could you also give us, Usec, the total amount so far 463 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng lahat naman ang mga items na nakafocus sa paghahanda at pagtugon sa Super El Nino? 464 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Sec Cuna. 465 00:32:46,580 --> 00:32:47,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Oh, I'm sorry. 466 00:32:48,980 --> 00:32:54,440 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Yes, Madam Chair, we'll look at the specific figures for the actions 467 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,620 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: just for the Super El Nino. 468 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:04,320 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: What we intend to do, Madam Chair, is to overlay the areas 469 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,120 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: where the very strong Super El Nino will strike, 470 00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:16,360 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: overlay it with the areas where there is a strong groundwater stress areas also, 471 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:24,580 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and where the areas where assistance for water supply is being given. 472 00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:29,140 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So that we can prioritize which areas, the impact areas, Madam Chair, 473 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,380 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and from there, we will be able to determine the specific costs that will be just allocated. 474 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,200 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So, Madam Chair, we will submit the figures there. 475 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Please do so within this hearing. 476 00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:45,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasi yun actually yung follow-up question ko rin tungkol sa areas na ma-identify nyo 477 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: by overlaying pinaka-vulnerable, pinaka may malalim naman na groundwater, 478 00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:52,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at pinaka mangangailangan ng assistance. 479 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And importanteng masagot nyo kami kung... 480 00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:58,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: magkano kabuan na ang nakalaan para sa Super El Nino. 481 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasi para masagot nyo rin yung tanong ko kanina na 482 00:34:02,380 --> 00:34:05,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: aling mga programa ang kailangan pang dagdagan ngayon. 483 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But before I go to my next question, 484 00:34:08,180 --> 00:34:11,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the Chair would like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Pia. 485 00:34:11,460 --> 00:34:12,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you for joining us. 486 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Would you also like to make an opening statement before we continue? 487 00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:20,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Good morning. 488 00:34:21,020 --> 00:34:23,160 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Good morning, Secretary, and good morning, everyone. 489 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:28,820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Sino dito yung mas matagal na sa Secretary sa DNR? 490 00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:29,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Taas ang kamay. 491 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Marami? 492 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:33,980 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Marami kayo, no? 493 00:34:34,060 --> 00:34:36,720 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because, Secretary, if I... 494 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:41,020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Do I remember correctly, when I was Chairman of the Committee on Environment, 495 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: EMB ka ba? 496 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:43,640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: O, see? 497 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yes. 498 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,960 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Umaandar pa yung aking memory. 499 00:34:46,740 --> 00:34:50,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because we did a lot of work on that, and I think even the passing of the NIPAS law. 500 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: But I know nga maraming matatagal na dyan. 501 00:34:53,180 --> 00:34:54,260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, thank you for your work. 502 00:34:54,340 --> 00:34:54,940 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: There's a lot of work. 503 00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:55,540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: There's a lot of work ahead of us. 504 00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:04,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I just want to mention that in 2008, I authored and sponsored the Environmental Education Act. 505 00:35:05,860 --> 00:35:08,240 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And I think it is... 506 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I thought it was very relevant then. 507 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:16,820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I think it's even as relevant now because I'm preaching to the choir. 508 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, you all know how important that is. 509 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And we just had our budget hearing with DepEd. 510 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:39,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And I will personally send a message to Secretary Angara about this because it tasked DepEd and CHED to include it in their curriculum with the guidance of DNR. 511 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:47,180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And the law is a very simple law, but the law specifically recognizes that every geographical area is different. 512 00:35:47,180 --> 00:35:51,060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, obviously, yung mga barangay na malapit sa dagat, 513 00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:54,380 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: edi syempre, yung marine protection ang pinaka-importante sa kanila. 514 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And then, yung nasa bundok naman, yung sa bundok. 515 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:02,780 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And then, for all of our young people, because they're the ones who influence the older people, 516 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: recognize how this all affects all their lives. 517 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:12,360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I think it's a good time to review where we are at that. 518 00:36:12,460 --> 00:36:13,060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And to be clear... 519 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:14,440 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Bakit? 520 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Same ba? Sorry, same ba? 521 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mas may detail. 522 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,620 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Normally iba ka, di ba? 523 00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:22,840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Anyway, hindi ko alam. Sorry. 524 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:26,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mas may detail yung sa 'yo 525 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:27,560 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Okay. 526 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:38,140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, what I wanted to emphasize now is that we recognize that different geographies are affected differently. 527 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And it's time that we really include it in our children's education. 528 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:50,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: But what I want to emphasize is I also believe that legislators should not... 529 00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:54,120 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: intervene and micromanage the curriculum. 530 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, hindi ko sinasabi yun. 531 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:02,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Ito yung laging medyo mahirap intindihin unless you understand how these curriculums are developed. 532 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: It's embedded in their different subjects. 533 00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:07,320 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Okay naman ako dyan, Secretary. 534 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:09,300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, maybe you can just assign. 535 00:37:09,580 --> 00:37:13,020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Is there a specific division that would be in charge of that? 536 00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:14,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: There is. Okay, later na lang. 537 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because anyway, this is just my introductory statement. 538 00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:21,040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, and then, of course, the committee I chair is the Sustainable Development Goals. 539 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Innovation Futures Thinking. 540 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:32,900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And there's a lot of SDGs that fall under your direction and need your specific input. 541 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, maybe somebody can also discuss that. 542 00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:42,640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because the problem with SDGs is they are so overlapping that sometimes no one's in charge. 543 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,680 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And that's really what I want to dive into later on. 544 00:37:47,740 --> 00:37:50,720 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Obviously, yung responsible consumption. 545 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: SDG 12. 546 00:37:52,780 --> 00:37:54,060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I think inyo talaga yun, no? 547 00:37:54,580 --> 00:37:57,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Yung mga tetrapak, yung mga sachets. 548 00:37:58,420 --> 00:38:03,700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: But there's others that become part of your responsibility. 549 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,500 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Pero hindi siguro natin napipinpoint. 550 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I'll go into that later on when I have my own time. 551 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,760 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you for now. 552 00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:12,340 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: We can proceed, Madam Chairperson. 553 00:38:12,580 --> 00:38:12,940 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you. 554 00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:14,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you, Senator Pia. 555 00:38:14,420 --> 00:38:15,160 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, if I may? 556 00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:16,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Eko na. 557 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,680 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Just to follow up on what the good Senator mentioned. 558 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:26,700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Because what Senator Allen brought up earlier, the importance of the education, environmental education. 559 00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:32,840 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I was going to mention that there was a law passed already in 2008, Environmental Awareness and Education Act. 560 00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:48,080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: But I think we need to collaborate with both CHED and DepEd on more detailed modules that will be integrated in the curriculum now. 561 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Both for... 562 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: For elementary and even higher. 563 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So that it will be, you know, inculcated in all our students. 564 00:38:55,540 --> 00:39:05,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And what should be, by nature, the behavior, what it should actually be in terms of solid waste management and other aspects. 565 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Sec. 566 00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:11,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Maybe while we're at it, you could also include engaging TESDA about this. 567 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:12,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. 568 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:13,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Sec. 569 00:39:13,740 --> 00:39:15,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, back to you, Sec. 570 00:39:15,740 --> 00:39:16,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Analiza. 571 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kanina binanggit nyo po na i-overlay nyo yung mga mapa. 572 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:29,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Para ma-identify yung mga area na pinakamangangailangan ng tulong, may pinakamalalim na groundwater, tapos yung pinaka-vulnerable. 573 00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:46,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, follow up dun, na-identify nyo po ba yung mga probinsya at regyon na pinakamaapektuhan, bahagya lamang, or hardly at all, or pinakamatindi yung katamtaman, tapos bahagya lamang, ng Super El Nino. 574 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At least, simula noong 2027. 575 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:51,760 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Yes, Madam Chair. 576 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:58,640 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Ang pag-asa po ang nag-release ng data, kung sino yung very high impact, moderate impact. 577 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,900 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So, yun po yung pinaka-baseline namin sa mapa na nagagawin. 578 00:40:04,620 --> 00:40:14,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And with that pag-asa baseline, nagko-coordinate din ba kayo, halimbawa, sa Philippine Space Agency, Project NOAA, pati yung UP Resilience Institute, 579 00:40:14,980 --> 00:40:19,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para matuko at mabantayan yung mga lugar na nanganganib sa tagtuyot? 580 00:40:21,020 --> 00:40:31,300 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Yes, Madam Chair. There's a task force, El Nino, under the OCD and the RRMC. So, doon po yung sharing of data, Madam Chair. 581 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And lahat po nitong mga ahensya, kasama po, kasabay ng DNR. 582 00:40:36,620 --> 00:40:44,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And may malinaw na plano na ba para maunang matulungan yung mga lugar na yan? 583 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: According to the severity of vulnerability and probable impact. 584 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:54,940 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Yes, Madam Chair. OCD already has some drafts. They call it SNAP. I forgot the meaning of the acronym. 585 00:40:55,460 --> 00:41:03,980 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: But DNR has also drafted its own very strong El Nino mitigation response plans. 586 00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:10,180 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: And we have a proposed directive already to be signed by the Secretary for that, Madam Chair. 587 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Directive signed by the Secretary. 588 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:13,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bukod pa po dun sa... 589 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: MC na binanggit nila na pinadala sa OP. 590 00:41:17,780 --> 00:41:26,940 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Yes, Madam Chair. Yung plano po namin na internal sa DNR will not only cover water management and conservation governance, 591 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:33,220 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: which will include the alternative water sources and harvesting, groundwater and salinity safeguards, 592 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,580 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and also reservoir and dam level management. 593 00:41:36,860 --> 00:41:43,840 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: That mitigation plan will also cover wildfire and grass fire prevention and preparedness. 594 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:53,060 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Mga maalala nyo, Madam Chair, in the past, nagsara tayo ng mga PA from the tourists and mga hikers because of the forest fires. 595 00:41:53,060 --> 00:42:00,260 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So kasama po dito yung mga early warning and hotspot tracking natin, strict ban on open burning, 596 00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:09,940 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and kasama din po yung pag-monitor na natin ang open dam site and sanitary land fire prevention, fire contingency planning, 597 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,180 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: kasama din po ang flood risk prevention and management. 598 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,040 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Kasi hindi po ibig sabihin. 599 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:23,080 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Ibig sabihin na very strong elmineo ay kagtuyot lang po, but it could also draw a very strong rain. 600 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:31,220 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So sasama po natin sa directive na i-issuehan po ni Secretary will be drainage and waterway desilting. 601 00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:36,540 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Also early warning systems, river channel improvement, 602 00:42:36,540 --> 00:42:40,560 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and then yung environmental and ecosystem-based adaptation, 603 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,020 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: which will include the continuation of the... 604 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,420 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: groundwater resource and vulnerability assessment of MGB and NWRB. 605 00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:54,900 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Of course, NGP, protected area management, and biodiversity and marine monitoring, Madam Chair. 606 00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:01,540 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: So yung buong ecosystem and biodiversity po ang itatakal ng mitigation plan, not just water security, Madam Chair. 607 00:43:02,060 --> 00:43:08,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So I hope, Yusek, before the hearing is over for today, makal ninyo lahat ng items, nung lahat ng iyon, 608 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:13,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasi yun siguro yung magbubuo ng suma total ng pinopropose so far para sa ELNC. 609 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Makal ninyo preparation and response. 610 00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:22,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then you can tell us at that point kung alin pa dito ang kulang ng pondo. 611 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Now, moving on to another question. 612 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bawas ng P550 million ang pondo ng National Greening Program 613 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:39,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dahil di umano ahead of schedule ang programa sa target na forest cover na 7.5 million hectares by 2028. 614 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung kinal po yun mula sa NGP, 615 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:51,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: posible bang gamitin muna yan, i-repurpose, pandagdag dun sa El Nino plans ng department? 616 00:43:55,500 --> 00:44:03,180 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: You mean, Madam Chair, if I may, you mean would it be practical to use it for this? 617 00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:05,140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I believe so, Madam Chair. 618 00:44:05,140 --> 00:44:13,140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: One of the other efforts that we are looking at is also to assess the decommissioning, 619 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: the decommissioned deep wells that have been decommissioned in the past 620 00:44:17,620 --> 00:44:23,740 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and to be able to re-energize it kasi these are in many different areas in the country. 621 00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:24,600 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: That's one. 622 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And then also, you mentioned, Madam Chair, earlier about small water impounding systems 623 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:36,800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and we have over 2,000 around the country which are actually for the National Greening Program 624 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:42,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that can be repurposed for domestic use at least. 625 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And although... 626 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:49,720 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So, as far as for drinking, we would have to check the water quality first 627 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:53,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: but at least for domestic use, we can repurpose that, Madam Chair. 628 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then, you started to mention something about this... 629 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: earlier, Sec. So, para sa inyo 630 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at particularly sa 631 00:45:03,340 --> 00:45:06,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: LUA, ano yung 632 00:45:06,060 --> 00:45:07,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga tinuturing ng department 633 00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:10,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na non-essential water 634 00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:11,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: consumption? At 635 00:45:11,860 --> 00:45:13,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may nakahandang polisiya na ba para 636 00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:15,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kontrolin o bawasan yung 637 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pagkasayang ng tubig? At least 638 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: for this non-essential water. 639 00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:22,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, 640 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Administrator Salonga. 641 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,220 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, Mr. Secretary, 642 00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:27,940 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: yes ma'am, nagpalabas na po ng 643 00:45:27,940 --> 00:45:29,880 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: memorandum circular ang LUA regarding 644 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,960 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: these matters. Pastrik sya 645 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,940 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: ng pastrik, depende sa pangangailangan 646 00:45:33,940 --> 00:45:35,440 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: ng tubig. Meron mga, 647 00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:37,760 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: meron kaming minumungkahing medyo 648 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,020 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: isara muna 649 00:45:40,020 --> 00:45:41,920 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: or bawasan ng allocation ng 650 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,000 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: tubig or close muna 651 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,060 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: yung valves. Especially for businesses 652 00:45:46,060 --> 00:45:48,140 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na medyo malakas gumamit 653 00:45:48,140 --> 00:45:48,600 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: ng tubig. 654 00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:52,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Speaking of which, and to continue 655 00:45:52,260 --> 00:45:53,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: a line 656 00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:55,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: open by the Secretary kanina, 657 00:45:56,620 --> 00:45:57,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ano po yung plano 658 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa irrigation at pagdidilig 659 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga golf courses, 660 00:46:01,980 --> 00:46:03,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pagpuno ng swimming pools 661 00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:05,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa mga water parks, 662 00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:07,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pagpapatakbo ng mga fountains sa mga 663 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: resorts. Hihigpitan ba yan? 664 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pwede ba silang obligahin 665 00:46:11,660 --> 00:46:13,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at least temporarily until 666 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: masurvive natin ang Super El Nino? 667 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,800 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Mr. Secretary, Madam Chair, kasama 668 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,580 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na po yun sa memorandum circulars namin 669 00:46:19,580 --> 00:46:21,840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na tinitingnan na pwedeng bawasan 670 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,600 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: or pamansan 671 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,380 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: temporarily close 672 00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:26,820 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: yung mga businesses na yun. 673 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,740 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Or not necessarily 674 00:46:31,740 --> 00:46:33,260 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: the whole business, but those 675 00:46:33,260 --> 00:46:35,620 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: matakaw sa tubig 676 00:46:35,620 --> 00:46:37,040 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na elements nung 677 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,340 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: business na yun. 678 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And oobligahin nyo sila 679 00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:42,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: under the MC? 680 00:46:42,940 --> 00:46:45,140 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Yes, ma'am. Including yung closure 681 00:46:45,140 --> 00:46:47,400 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: ng valves sa mga government 682 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,180 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: facilities at certain times. 683 00:46:50,340 --> 00:46:51,640 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Gusto nga namin gawin 684 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,500 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na sa luwa yun. Just to conserve. 685 00:46:53,860 --> 00:46:55,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So government will set 686 00:46:55,540 --> 00:46:57,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the good example first and then 687 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: oobligahin yung parts of the private 688 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sector to also 689 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: limit or 690 00:47:04,620 --> 00:47:07,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: reduce parts of 691 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: their own operations. 692 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:09,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. 693 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero paano natin babantayan 694 00:47:13,740 --> 00:47:15,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na talagang 695 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: susunod sila? 696 00:47:16,980 --> 00:47:19,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Lalo na sa mga lugar na nagkukulang 697 00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:20,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na sa supply sa surrounding 698 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: residential or agricultural areas. 699 00:47:22,820 --> 00:47:24,900 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, Mr. Secretary, nakapag-release 700 00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:26,540 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na rin po kami ng memorandum circulars 701 00:47:26,540 --> 00:47:28,780 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: yung sub-monitoring ng mga water districts 702 00:47:28,780 --> 00:47:30,840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: regarding those facilities. Tapos yung 703 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,960 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: pagsasara ng valves na po yun, water district 704 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,940 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: na po ang gagawa nun. At least for 705 00:47:34,940 --> 00:47:37,260 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: water districts, all water districts 706 00:47:37,260 --> 00:47:38,480 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: outside of Metro Manila. 707 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So this has, speaking of 708 00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:47,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: education and information kanina, 709 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: this has to be communicated 710 00:47:49,020 --> 00:47:50,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: very, very well. 711 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung bakit lahat 712 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:53,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ay 713 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nababantaan itong Super El Nino 714 00:47:57,340 --> 00:47:59,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: and the sacrifices 715 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: that all of us, different sectors 716 00:48:01,060 --> 00:48:02,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: have to undertake 717 00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:05,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: in the next few months para makapagsurvive 718 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: lahat. So para magkaroon 719 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng buy-in, yung iba't-ibang 720 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kailangan gumawa. Madam Chair, 721 00:48:10,420 --> 00:48:13,060 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Sir Secretary, nakapagpalabas na rin kami ng memorandum 722 00:48:13,060 --> 00:48:14,840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: circular for all water districts 723 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,000 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: to come up with communication 724 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,760 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: plans for non-revenue water 725 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,460 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: saka procedures for 726 00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:22,460 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: El Nino kung mangyari. 727 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sige, let's talk about 728 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the non-revenue water also a little later. 729 00:48:27,340 --> 00:48:29,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Importante din yung comms coming from the national. 730 00:48:29,460 --> 00:48:31,500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Just to add to that, Madam Chair, 731 00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:32,240 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: actually, 732 00:48:33,580 --> 00:48:34,500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: the President has called 733 00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:37,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: several times already the task force El Nino 734 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and one of the agenda 735 00:48:39,140 --> 00:48:41,220 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: items that were taken up 736 00:48:41,220 --> 00:48:42,800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that was taken up is 737 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: a comprehensive comms plan that we're already 738 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,680 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: working on with the other agencies 739 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,200 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: so that, as you said, 740 00:48:48,740 --> 00:48:51,060 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: people will know how 741 00:48:51,060 --> 00:48:53,140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: they can contribute to 742 00:48:53,140 --> 00:48:54,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: at least easing the 743 00:48:54,980 --> 00:48:56,480 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: effects of the Super El Nino. 744 00:48:57,340 --> 00:48:57,920 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Thank you. 745 00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you, Sec. 746 00:48:59,780 --> 00:49:02,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Since nabuksan na rin natin yung ilang mga tanong 747 00:49:02,180 --> 00:49:03,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kaugnay ng luwa, perhaps 748 00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:05,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may presentation din po ba kayo, 749 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Administrator Salonga, or 750 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: shall we, wala naman? Okay. 751 00:49:10,180 --> 00:49:12,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Alright. So, let's 752 00:49:12,060 --> 00:49:12,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: continue with 753 00:49:12,940 --> 00:49:15,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: our questions. 754 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, Forest Management 755 00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:20,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bureau, so may presentation 756 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: po ba yung FMB, or 757 00:49:22,060 --> 00:49:23,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: do we go straight to our questions? 758 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: We can go straight to the questions. 759 00:49:25,660 --> 00:49:27,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Alright. Salamat po. 760 00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:29,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, 761 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Director Padriquela, 762 00:49:31,780 --> 00:49:32,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kayo po ba? Okay po. 763 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, itong pinag-uusapan natin 764 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:37,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga small water impounding 765 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: systems, malaking tulong po talaga 766 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa mga komunidad at mga 767 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: magsasaka, lalo na nga po 768 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at nandito na 769 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at patindi yung tagtuyot. 770 00:49:47,340 --> 00:49:49,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, ilan na po ba, may nabanggit na rin 771 00:49:49,580 --> 00:49:51,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: po si Yusek Analiza 772 00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:53,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yata kanina, kung ilan na po 773 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ba yung mga 774 00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:57,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: umiiral na small 775 00:49:57,180 --> 00:49:59,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: water impounding 776 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: systems, 777 00:50:01,060 --> 00:50:03,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at ilan naman yung 778 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: inaasahan nating 779 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: naitayo at operasyonal 780 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: hanggang po sa katapusan 781 00:50:09,260 --> 00:50:10,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nitong taon? 782 00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:16,520 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Magandang hapon po, 783 00:50:17,420 --> 00:50:18,300 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Honorable Chair. 784 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,120 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Meron po tayong 785 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,180 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: number ngayon 786 00:50:23,180 --> 00:50:25,180 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: na 1,335 787 00:50:25,180 --> 00:50:27,280 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: structures 788 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,760 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: with a capacity of 789 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:29,820 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: about 790 00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:34,840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 49,981 791 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:35,760 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: cubic meters. 792 00:50:35,980 --> 00:50:37,500 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Sa buong Pilipinas po doon, 793 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,220 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: nakai-spread. 794 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,460 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: At meron pa rin tayo 795 00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:42,560 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng ongoing ngayon 796 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,760 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: for 2026 at 797 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,700 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: for 2027, 798 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:47,840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 2027, 799 00:50:49,260 --> 00:50:51,320 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ay nakatarget pa rin po tayo 800 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,280 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng 2,527 801 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,280 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: for 2,527 802 00:50:55,180 --> 00:50:56,200 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: cubic meters 803 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,940 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: with a budget of 804 00:50:57,940 --> 00:50:59,580 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 185 million. 805 00:51:00,620 --> 00:51:02,780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: At ayon po sa aming 806 00:51:02,780 --> 00:51:03,680 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: karanasan, 807 00:51:04,580 --> 00:51:06,440 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: malaki po ang 808 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,480 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: pakinabang ito sa ating 809 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,480 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: mga community sa mga rural areas. 810 00:51:11,460 --> 00:51:12,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So yung 811 00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:14,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: existing po na 1,035 812 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: plus yung mga ongoing, 813 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: so ilan ang total na 814 00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:20,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: magkakaroon tayo sa small water 815 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: impounding systems katapusan nitong taon? 816 00:51:25,180 --> 00:51:27,780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Equivalent to 817 00:51:27,780 --> 00:51:30,040 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 50,000 cubic meters po. 818 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then nabanggit nyo na nga po 819 00:51:33,700 --> 00:51:35,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa 2027, 820 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may pinaplano kayong ita yung 821 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 2,500 plus. 822 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ilan po exactly? 823 00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:42,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 2,500? 824 00:51:42,940 --> 00:51:45,140 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 527 cubic meters. 825 00:51:45,260 --> 00:51:47,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 527 cubic meters. 826 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:49,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. 827 00:51:50,620 --> 00:51:51,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, so ano? 828 00:51:55,180 --> 00:51:57,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ang laki ng na-multiply. 829 00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 50,000 cubic meters by the end 830 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: of the year, 2026. 831 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tama po ba? 832 00:52:02,180 --> 00:52:05,340 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Ito po yung nagawa na po natin. 833 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,800 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: For 2027, 834 00:52:09,220 --> 00:52:10,540 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: dagdag po uli 835 00:52:10,540 --> 00:52:12,840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng 2,527 cubic meters. 836 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,220 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Ah, okay. Dagdag ito. 837 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. Pero ang laki pa rin 838 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng multiply. 839 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano nyo i-achieve ito? 840 00:52:19,980 --> 00:52:21,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: From 50,000 to 841 00:52:21,660 --> 00:52:22,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 2,500. 842 00:52:24,220 --> 00:52:24,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tama? 843 00:52:25,180 --> 00:52:26,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 50,000 end of the year. 844 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:27,760 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Nagawa na po yun. 845 00:52:27,820 --> 00:52:29,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Oh, and then dagdag na 2,500. 846 00:52:29,260 --> 00:52:29,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Oh, sorry. 847 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, 52,500 by end 2027. 848 00:52:33,060 --> 00:52:33,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay po. 849 00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:35,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, yung mga 850 00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:39,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: small water impounding system, 851 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:40,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: well, logically, 852 00:52:40,860 --> 00:52:42,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pero pa-confirm lang po, 853 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dun po itatayo sa mga area 854 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na ma-identify nyo sa pag-overlay 855 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga maps 856 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na pinaka ma-apektuhan 857 00:52:48,060 --> 00:52:49,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng Super El Nino? 858 00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:53,560 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Meron po tayo kasi 859 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: kriterang ginagamit 860 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,900 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: dapat po siya ay malapit 861 00:52:56,900 --> 00:52:57,580 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: sa spring. 862 00:52:58,380 --> 00:52:59,500 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Sa mga spring 863 00:52:59,500 --> 00:53:01,340 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: at saka nabuhay na spring. 864 00:53:02,260 --> 00:53:04,520 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: At malapit. 865 00:53:05,420 --> 00:53:06,400 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Dati po kasi, 866 00:53:06,580 --> 00:53:07,480 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: yun ang pandilig natin 867 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,560 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: sa mga NGPs. 868 00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:09,800 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Ngayon, nagagamit na rin po 869 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:10,380 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng mga tao. 870 00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:11,820 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: So, nare-re-purpose na po 871 00:53:11,820 --> 00:53:14,880 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: yung mga small water 872 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,880 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: impounding structures natin. 873 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,620 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: So, ang mahalaga po dito, 874 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,400 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: meron siyang source 875 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,920 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: nabuhay na spring. 876 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,900 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: At yun po ang unang 877 00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:24,780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: kriteriya sa magpapasakit. 878 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,960 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Pili ng location 879 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,860 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng ating mga Swiss. 880 00:53:29,260 --> 00:53:30,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero kung i-check po natin 881 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:31,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung listahan ng mga 882 00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:33,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasalukuyan at planong locations 883 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga Swiss, 884 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: bukod sa malapit siya 885 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:37,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa spring, 886 00:53:38,140 --> 00:53:38,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: hindi po ba dapat 887 00:53:38,980 --> 00:53:40,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung pangunahing kriteriya 888 00:53:40,460 --> 00:53:42,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ay andun uunahin 889 00:53:42,700 --> 00:53:43,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa mga area 890 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na pinakamalubahang 891 00:53:44,940 --> 00:53:46,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ma-apektuhan ng El Nino? 892 00:53:46,580 --> 00:53:47,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung tinanong po kanina 893 00:53:47,420 --> 00:53:48,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kay USEC Analisa 894 00:53:48,340 --> 00:53:49,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na pinaka 895 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: medyo lamang 896 00:53:51,820 --> 00:53:53,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or bahagya lamang. 897 00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:54,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hindi ba priority yun? 898 00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:54,720 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Yes, ma'am. 899 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,720 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Isasama na rin po 900 00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:57,320 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: sa priority 901 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,940 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: yung ma-apektuhan 902 00:53:58,940 --> 00:54:00,160 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: lalo ng El Nino. 903 00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:01,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Isa sa mga, 904 00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:03,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: hindi nyo ba iniisip 905 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:03,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na gawin siya 906 00:54:03,900 --> 00:54:04,620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung pinaka 907 00:54:04,620 --> 00:54:06,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: importante, 908 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pinakamataas 909 00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:08,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na kriteriya? 910 00:54:08,620 --> 00:54:09,480 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Yes, ma'am. 911 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,240 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: But as long as 912 00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:12,720 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: siguro 913 00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:14,340 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: i-redesign na lang 914 00:54:14,340 --> 00:54:15,000 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: natin yun 915 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:15,460 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: para 916 00:54:15,460 --> 00:54:18,840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: yung pangagalingan, 917 00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:20,740 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ay may pangagalingan 918 00:54:20,740 --> 00:54:21,380 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: siya, tubig. 919 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,300 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: At kung yun ay 920 00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:25,260 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: apektado talaga, 921 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,320 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: magiging priority 922 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,620 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: areas po natin. 923 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:30,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pwede po bang makuha 924 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng subcommittee namin 925 00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:33,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung listahan 926 00:54:33,180 --> 00:54:34,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga locations? 927 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:34,880 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Apo. 928 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:35,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay po. 929 00:54:35,660 --> 00:54:36,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kaya bang within this hearing 930 00:54:36,860 --> 00:54:37,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or 931 00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:38,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kaya ba within this hearing? 932 00:54:38,940 --> 00:54:39,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, USEC Analisa? 933 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,020 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Madam Chair, 934 00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:44,100 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: based on pag-asa forecast, 935 00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:46,160 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: the NWRB listahang tubig, 936 00:54:46,620 --> 00:54:48,040 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: the groundwater stress cities 937 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:48,920 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and areas with 938 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,040 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: water infra projects 939 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:50,620 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: such as 940 00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:51,500 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: what Director 941 00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:52,680 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Madpadrikella mentioned, 942 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:53,480 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Spring Development 943 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,280 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and Swiss, 944 00:54:55,140 --> 00:54:55,720 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: approximately 945 00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:57,360 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: 34% of 946 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,660 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: barangays nationwide 947 00:54:58,660 --> 00:54:59,900 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: may be considered 948 00:54:59,900 --> 00:55:00,800 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: for priority 949 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:01,540 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: interventions. 950 00:55:02,180 --> 00:55:02,680 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Yung major hotspots 951 00:55:03,260 --> 00:55:04,020 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: po na nakita 952 00:55:04,020 --> 00:55:04,980 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: initially would be 953 00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:05,640 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Masbate, 954 00:55:06,620 --> 00:55:08,100 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: high drought exposure 955 00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:08,920 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: with critical 956 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:09,920 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: off-grid coastal 957 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:10,680 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: supply gaps, 958 00:55:12,260 --> 00:55:13,160 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Calapan City 959 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,540 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: in Oriental Mindora, 960 00:55:14,740 --> 00:55:16,500 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: severe agricultural 961 00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:18,640 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and urban water stress, 962 00:55:19,420 --> 00:55:21,220 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: and then Isabel Cluster po, 963 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,580 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: mga 7 LGUs yan. 964 00:55:22,580 --> 00:55:23,580 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Opo, 965 00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:24,580 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: addressing the 966 00:55:25,340 --> 00:55:26,180 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Cagayan Valley 967 00:55:26,180 --> 00:55:27,300 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: granary deficit, 968 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:27,960 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Madam Chair. 969 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Dito po sa Masbate, 970 00:55:31,660 --> 00:55:32,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Calapan, 971 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:33,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Isabela, 972 00:55:34,060 --> 00:55:35,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at Cagayan Valley, 973 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may operational na po ba 974 00:55:38,420 --> 00:55:40,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at o may pinaplano na po bang 975 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga small water impounding facilities 976 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: end of this year 977 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: and into 2027? 978 00:55:48,020 --> 00:55:50,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, back to Director Padrikella. 979 00:55:52,580 --> 00:56:03,620 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Yes, ma'am. 980 00:56:03,780 --> 00:56:04,540 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: For example, 981 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,400 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: since 2015, 982 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,140 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: meron na po tayong 983 00:56:09,140 --> 00:56:10,280 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: sham sa Isabela 984 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,220 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: sa Region 2. 985 00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:16,440 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: So, 986 00:56:17,300 --> 00:56:18,820 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: as of 2026, 987 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,000 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: meron na po tayong 988 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,240 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: sa Region 2 989 00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:21,960 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: na 45 990 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:22,160 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: distraught, 991 00:56:22,580 --> 00:56:24,660 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: with the capacity 992 00:56:24,660 --> 00:56:29,880 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: of 3,019 cubic meters. 993 00:56:32,180 --> 00:56:36,780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Sa Region 5, 994 00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:40,000 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: kabuuan po ng Region 5, 995 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:41,620 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: meron na po tayong 996 00:56:41,620 --> 00:56:43,160 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 160 structures 997 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,280 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: for 2,701 cubic meters. 998 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, yung 999 00:56:51,580 --> 00:56:51,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung 1000 00:56:51,820 --> 00:56:55,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 160 small water impounding facilities 1001 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:56,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Region 5, 1002 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasama na po doon 1003 00:56:58,340 --> 00:56:59,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga nakalocate 1004 00:56:59,180 --> 00:56:59,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Masbate, 1005 00:57:00,220 --> 00:57:00,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tama po ba? 1006 00:57:01,820 --> 00:57:02,340 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Apo. 1007 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:03,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kabuuan sa Region 2? 1008 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,040 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Kabuuan na po yan. 1009 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Meron po ba kayong bilang 1010 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa Masbate lamang? 1011 00:57:08,060 --> 00:57:10,360 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: We can get that. 1012 00:57:10,380 --> 00:57:11,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Director. 1013 00:57:11,620 --> 00:57:11,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then, 1014 00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:13,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung 45 small water impounding 1015 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: structures sa Region 2, 1016 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasama na po bang 1017 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:17,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mayroon sa 1018 00:57:17,940 --> 00:57:19,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasama na po ba 1019 00:57:19,380 --> 00:57:20,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung sham sa Isabela, 1020 00:57:20,980 --> 00:57:21,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: plus, 1021 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: meron din ba sa 1022 00:57:22,180 --> 00:57:23,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Cagayan Valley? 1023 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,720 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: We will get the details. 1024 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please. 1025 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, yung 9, 1026 00:57:26,500 --> 00:57:27,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yun na yung sa Isabela? 1027 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,680 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: For Region 2, yun. 1028 00:57:30,860 --> 00:57:31,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 45. 1029 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:32,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 45. 1030 00:57:32,820 --> 00:57:33,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: May nabanggit kayong 1031 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 9 kanina sa Isabela, eh. 1032 00:57:35,620 --> 00:57:36,540 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 9 yun, ma'am, 1033 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:37,340 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: noong 2015. 1034 00:57:37,540 --> 00:57:38,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, noong 2015 lamang. 1035 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:39,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. 1036 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, bago matapos 1037 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung hiring pahingi po, 1038 00:57:41,620 --> 00:57:42,620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung disaggregated, 1039 00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:44,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: out of the 45, 1040 00:57:44,260 --> 00:57:45,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tigilan sa Isabela 1041 00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:46,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at Cagayan Valley. 1042 00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:48,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And yung sa Kalapan po, 1043 00:57:48,460 --> 00:57:49,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may small water impounding 1044 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:50,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: structures na rin po? 1045 00:57:50,420 --> 00:57:52,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa 4B, sir. 1046 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,600 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Sa 4B, 1047 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,880 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: meron na po tayong 1048 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: 70 sa kabuuan 1049 00:57:58,780 --> 00:57:59,520 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng Mimaropa 1050 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,720 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: for a total cubic meter 1051 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,480 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: of 3,804. 1052 00:58:03,940 --> 00:58:04,840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Ma'am, yung detaily po 1053 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:05,640 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng ano sa 1054 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,760 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: kung saan nakadistribute, 1055 00:58:07,860 --> 00:58:09,100 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: bibigyan po din namin kayo. 1056 00:58:09,180 --> 00:58:09,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please. 1057 00:58:09,780 --> 00:58:10,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat. 1058 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Lalo na para dun sa apat 1059 00:58:11,460 --> 00:58:12,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: so far na in-identify 1060 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung pinaka-apektado 1061 00:58:13,940 --> 00:58:15,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or pinaka-vulnerabling area. 1062 00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:16,940 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Yes, ma'am. 1063 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:17,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po. 1064 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:19,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then, 1065 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:20,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: lahat-lahat, 1066 00:58:20,420 --> 00:58:21,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ilang small water 1067 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:22,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: impounding facility ba 1068 00:58:22,780 --> 00:58:24,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ang kailangan pang itayo 1069 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: overall? 1070 00:58:28,660 --> 00:58:31,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bukod sa 1,035 existing 1071 00:58:31,180 --> 00:58:35,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: plus yung ongoing this year 1072 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: plus yung idadagdag nyo 1073 00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:37,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: next year 1074 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:38,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para mag-generate pa 1075 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng 50,000 cubic meters. 1076 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,220 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Wala pa tayong target 1077 00:58:42,220 --> 00:58:43,180 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng 2028. 1078 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,580 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Wala pa po kong target 1079 00:58:44,580 --> 00:58:46,500 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng 2028 onwards 1080 00:58:46,500 --> 00:58:48,460 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: hanggang 2027 pala po 1081 00:58:48,460 --> 00:58:49,020 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: nagka-target. 1082 00:58:49,180 --> 00:58:49,400 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: But, 1083 00:58:50,420 --> 00:58:51,420 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: we're sure 1084 00:58:51,420 --> 00:58:52,420 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: na kailangan po talaga 1085 00:58:52,420 --> 00:58:53,980 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng ating mga mamamayan 1086 00:58:53,980 --> 00:58:55,680 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng mga small water 1087 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:56,920 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: impounding structures. 1088 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I agree with you, 1089 00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:58,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Director. 1090 00:58:58,820 --> 00:58:59,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I'm sure also. 1091 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:00,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And bahagi yun 1092 00:59:00,940 --> 00:59:02,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nung una kaming 1093 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nag-briefing ni Nasek Kuna, 1094 00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:06,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: lagi akong interesado 1095 00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:06,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: malaman 1096 00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:07,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ano yung strategic 1097 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: trajectory ng department, 1098 00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:10,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ano yung vision 1099 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:11,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng department 1100 00:59:11,540 --> 00:59:13,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa bansa natin 1101 00:59:13,460 --> 00:59:14,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: even beyond 1102 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the current administration 1103 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: into the next 1104 00:59:17,060 --> 00:59:18,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: administrations pa. 1105 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, 1106 00:59:19,140 --> 00:59:20,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pakibigay din po 1107 00:59:20,660 --> 00:59:21,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung 1108 00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:23,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: importation na yan 1109 00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:25,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or kung kailan nyo 1110 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: maseset 1111 00:59:26,180 --> 00:59:27,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung target na yun. 1112 00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:27,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pati, 1113 00:59:28,060 --> 00:59:29,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: gaano karaming dagdag na tubig 1114 00:59:29,660 --> 00:59:31,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ang kayang ipunin 1115 00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:31,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: itong mga 1116 00:59:31,940 --> 00:59:33,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kakailanganin pang 1117 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:34,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga small water 1118 00:59:34,260 --> 00:59:35,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: impounding structures. 1119 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:36,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Baka itong 1120 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:37,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: huling follow-up question 1121 00:59:37,980 --> 00:59:38,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Paksang ito 1122 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:39,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pwede nyo nang sagutin ngayon. 1123 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Magkano po dapat 1124 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:42,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: per unit 1125 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:43,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at per size 1126 00:59:43,860 --> 00:59:45,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ang mga small water 1127 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:46,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: impounding structures na yan? 1128 00:59:47,140 --> 00:59:49,120 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Ang ano po namin, 1129 00:59:49,140 --> 00:59:51,420 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ang size 1130 00:59:51,420 --> 00:59:53,040 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: and dimensions po 1131 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:53,900 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ng ating mga 1132 00:59:53,900 --> 00:59:56,220 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: mga Swiss, 1133 00:59:56,460 --> 00:59:58,580 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: ranging from 1134 00:59:58,580 --> 00:59:59,620 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: six 1135 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:20,940 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: May 50. Meron tayong mga 50. Mga 50 ang pinakamalaki, tapos may mga 20 cubic meters, may mga ganyan po. Depende po ma'am sa kapasity ng source na magsusupray ng tubig sa ating mga structures. 1136 01:00:21,740 --> 01:00:28,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At magkano po dapat yung kayang mag-generate ng 50 cubic meters ng tubig? Magkano po dapat yung mag-generate ng 20 cubic meters? 1137 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:35,780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Ang costing natin per cubic meter is P70,000. 1138 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And yung 20 cubic meters po? 1139 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,200 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: That's per cubic meter po. 1140 01:00:44,220 --> 01:00:45,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Per cubic meter. 1141 01:00:46,460 --> 01:00:52,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then given yung volume na kayang i-generate, i-multiply. P70,000 per cubic meter. 1142 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:07,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So yung 550M na tinanggal sa forest development, particular na item na tinanggalan yung sa plantation? 1143 01:02:07,540 --> 01:02:08,840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Plantation, establishment. 1144 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:18,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. Pero sabi nyo tuloy-tuloy yung para sa forest protection. Paano reflected sa budget nyo na tuloy-tuloy yung pagpupondo doon? 1145 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:24,840 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Hiwalay po siya. Yun po yung pag-establish natin ng mga forest, fire line. 1146 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:25,540 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Fire line. 1147 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,780 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Sa forest protection. 1148 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:40,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At sa mga yun po, binawasan din po ba yung budget? Maintained lang or dinagdagan? 1149 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:47,980 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Maintained lang. Maintained lang. Maintained lang ang ating sa forest protection. 1150 01:02:48,660 --> 01:02:49,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Maintained lang. 1151 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:55,020 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: So tama din naman po na mabuwasan muna dahil baka ma-extend pa ng El Nino. 1152 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:56,260 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: At mag-a- 1153 01:02:56,260 --> 01:02:58,320 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Baka mawala. 1154 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:05,080 FMB Director Arturo E. Fadriquela: Punta sa wala ang tatarim natin dahil medyo tuyog pa nga po ang lupa hanggang sa isang taon pa. 1155 01:03:06,220 --> 01:03:20,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Baka pwede na lang natin balikan yan later. I'm not sure I agree na okay lang kung mababawasan dahil siyempre yung paglago din ng gubat natin makakatulong overall sa pagtugon or pag-mitigate sa epekto ng El Nino. 1156 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Anyway, salamat po Director Fadriquella. 1157 01:03:25,340 --> 01:03:28,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Moving on sa mga water agencies. 1158 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:33,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa luwa pa rin, ilang mga dagdag na tanong sa ngayon. 1159 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:43,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, from Swiss to ilang mobile water treatment plants at atmospheric water generators yung binanggit ko kanina. 1160 01:03:44,540 --> 01:03:49,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Meron na ang luwa at yung mga water districts na ginagamit ngayon sa buong bansa. 1161 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:56,780 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, Mr. Secretary, ma'am meron po kaming dalawang atmospheric water generators na nirorotate sa mga disaster areas. 1162 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,820 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Naka-park na po sa luwa ngayon yan. 1163 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,180 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Meron rin kaming mobile treatment plants na dalawa rin. 1164 01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:05,280 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Again, nirorotate namin yan pagka merong sakuna. 1165 01:04:05,740 --> 01:04:07,160 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Yun ang una naming pinapadala. 1166 01:04:07,740 --> 01:04:13,280 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Maganda lang po kasi dun sa atmospheric water generator, hospital grade na po kasi yung labas ng tubig dun eh. 1167 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:22,100 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: For us, yung mobile water treatment facilities natin, kailangan mo ng source and then iti-filter niya tapos saka lang magagamit. 1168 01:04:22,380 --> 01:04:26,180 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Both have power units attached so we can deploy them anywhere. 1169 01:04:26,180 --> 01:04:28,400 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: But again, sa konti lang nito. 1170 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:29,700 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Not enough. 1171 01:04:31,700 --> 01:04:34,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tama ba? Tigalawa pa lang? Meron ng buong bansa natin? 1172 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,200 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, sorry. Sa luwa meron kaming tigdalawa. 1173 01:04:39,780 --> 01:04:45,260 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: There are other government agencies that use similar technologies and have similar units. 1174 01:04:47,500 --> 01:04:50,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Nama-marshall nyo ba yung mga equipment nilang iyon? 1175 01:04:50,940 --> 01:04:55,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Or nagko-coordinate ba kayo para to act in concert para dun sa El Nino? 1176 01:04:55,700 --> 01:04:57,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Madam Chair, nakakapag-coordinate po kami. 1177 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:03,660 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: I think TPA and DSWD have similar units. 1178 01:05:06,460 --> 01:05:20,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So kung tigalawa, at least luwa, pero ilan yung inaasahang ma-procure pa o maidagdag nitong mga mobile water treatment plants at saka water generators by the end of 2026 at papasok sa 2027? 1179 01:05:21,420 --> 01:05:24,760 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, we're looking at internally generated funds to buy this. 1180 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,820 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: But of course, government augmentation will speed up the process. 1181 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Kung makakapag-mabili. 1182 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:36,840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Ang balak po namin doon is gamitin yung mga water bladders na ibibigay ng TENR. 1183 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:46,940 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Pupunuin na po namin ng tubig yun at i-replace namin sa mga water districts na na-identify namin na talagang magiging stressful ang kanilang sitwasyon. 1184 01:05:47,620 --> 01:05:51,620 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Gagamitin rin namin yan to fill water lorries for deployment. 1185 01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:54,000 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Pwede kasi silang patakboy ng 24 hours. 1186 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,280 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Tapos magpupunun lang tayo ng mga tanket bladders. 1187 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ilang water bladders na ang nasa kamay ng department? 1188 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:07,000 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, parang ano yata? 13 or 15? 1189 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,780 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: 30. 30 pala. Sorry Madam Chair. 30. 1190 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:17,740 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 1-3 Madam Chair. 1-3. 13. 1191 01:06:18,020 --> 01:06:19,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 13 lamang. Oo, Secretary. 1192 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And sapat na po ba yun? 1193 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:28,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Or balak din ang department na mag-procure whether by the end of the year or sa bago? 1194 01:06:28,940 --> 01:06:30,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Noong taong 2027. 1195 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: If we have the funding Madam Chair, we can add to this. 1196 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:45,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: From 13, ilan ang optimal at efficient number na dapat merong ang department? 1197 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,200 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Sir Secretary, Madam Chair. 1198 01:06:53,820 --> 01:06:55,700 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Ma'am, if I may suggest. 1199 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:56,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Admin Salonga. 1200 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:57,900 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Kahit 50. 1201 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:08,440 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: 50 po. Para we can replace them immediately in large water districts for deployment in areas na talagang wala. 1202 01:07:08,820 --> 01:07:13,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Nandiyan na ba yan sa proposed budget ng department sa line item na yun? 1203 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:14,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa luwa po. 1204 01:07:14,660 --> 01:07:15,380 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Sa luwa? 1205 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,420 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Opo. Bibigay na lang po namin sa inyo. 1206 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. So wala pa dun sa ngayon? 1207 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:25,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. So this is times 4 ng current na meron na 13. 1208 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:26,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. 1209 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Then, syempre, nasa ilalim nyo yung mga water districts. 1210 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:36,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano nyo ipopromote yung collaboration sa pagitan ng mga water districts? 1211 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Lalo na yung mga adjacent, yung mga magkakatabi. 1212 01:07:40,060 --> 01:07:47,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Limbawa, may sapat na tubig yung isang water district pero nagkukulang naman yung katabing lugar, yung adjacent na lugar. 1213 01:07:47,980 --> 01:07:52,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano nyo sila matutulungan magbahagi ng supply sa isa't isa? 1214 01:07:52,900 --> 01:07:57,440 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, Mr. Secretary, actually yun po maganda dun sa water district regime natin. 1215 01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:58,360 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Talagang. 1216 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:05,160 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: In the 53 years ng luwa, nagkaroon sila ng parang coordination amongst their clustered water districts. 1217 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,940 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So talagang nagtutulungan sila. 1218 01:08:07,060 --> 01:08:17,120 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Even in events of travesty or merong sakuna dun, ang unang response ng water district is from the neighboring water district. 1219 01:08:17,660 --> 01:08:23,640 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Bago before big government moves in, yung mga magkakatabing water districts ang nagtutulungan. 1220 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,720 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So we can actually pre-place them. 1221 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,560 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Saka hindi naman ako nababahala na hindi sila magtutulungan. 1222 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Talagang nagtutulungan po sila. 1223 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:40,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So walang kailangan kayong ipromote? May reflex na, may natural behavior na sila? 1224 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:47,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Or meron pa ba kayong idadagdag na pako-ordination sa kanila sa harap ng Super El Nino? 1225 01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:51,320 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, nandun na po sa memorandum circular po yun. Tapos clustered po sila. 1226 01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:54,660 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Meron rin sila mga regional organization ng water districts. 1227 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,660 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So madali silang makapag-move, communicate, and help each other. 1228 01:08:58,840 --> 01:08:59,900 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Other in times of tragedy. 1229 01:09:00,900 --> 01:09:09,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Balik na rin naman natin, paano nyo i-handle kung magkaroon ng conflict o kaya disputes sa pagitan nitong mga water districts? 1230 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:11,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pati LGUs, no? 1231 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:19,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung mga nag-host ng water sources at yung mga LGU na purely consumer lang ng tubig. 1232 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:28,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Parang writ small yung sinasabing tension lagi sa, kunyari, mga regyon sa mundo tulad ng Middle East na tubig talaga ang pinakamahalaga 1233 01:09:28,180 --> 01:09:29,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at maaring pag-awayang resource. 1234 01:09:30,020 --> 01:09:35,920 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, nakikita namin yan. Pero yung water allocation is actually not a distribution issue. 1235 01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:39,340 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: It's more of an allocation dito galing po sa NWRB. 1236 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:48,260 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: But nakikita na namin yan ngayon kasi for example, there are some metro water districts that take water from other cities 1237 01:09:48,260 --> 01:09:54,100 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: and yung local city that hosts the water source want to de-annex to preserve their own water source. 1238 01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:56,820 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So meron na pong conflicts na ganyan nangyayari. 1239 01:09:56,820 --> 01:10:09,020 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Kasi sinusubukan na lang naming ayusin by ensuring that the host water, the host LGU that has the water is first satisfied doon sa demands nila. 1240 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:14,540 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: At that level, kaya ng luwa. Pero yung allocation po mismo ng water source, hindi po sa amin doon. 1241 01:10:15,540 --> 01:10:20,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Baka sometimes during this hearing, gustong mag-weigh in ang NWRB tungkol dito. 1242 01:10:23,780 --> 01:10:25,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano pinipreempt or nire-resolve? 1243 01:10:25,940 --> 01:10:30,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kapag nga magkaroon ng ganitong conflict or disputes. 1244 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Would you like to input something at this point, Dr. David? 1245 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:37,200 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yes, ma'am. Good afternoon, Madam Chair. With the permission of the Secretary. 1246 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:47,580 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yes, Madam Chair. In terms of allocation and water rights, ang NWRB po is with the authority and quasi-judicial function 1247 01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:51,700 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: to resolve po yung mga conflicts between bar use, water use. 1248 01:10:51,700 --> 01:10:55,020 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: But of course, as per water code po, Madam Chair, 1249 01:10:55,940 --> 01:11:04,940 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: priority po yung domestic and household use in the evaluation and assessment of water use or water rights. 1250 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:16,520 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: At of course, tinitingnan po natin din dyan yung availability ng tubig po for a certain area kung saan po nagkakaroon ng conflict. 1251 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:25,920 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: But of course, with the condition that must priority po yung domestic and household use over irrigation and of course power and other. 1252 01:11:25,940 --> 01:11:38,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa ngayon po, Dr. David, may bilang na ba kayo ng mga magkakatabi or adjacent na water districts na mayroon or magkakaroon ng ganitong dispute o conflict? 1253 01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:45,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So between isang water-resourced at yung isang water-dependent na water district or LGU? 1254 01:11:45,660 --> 01:11:51,740 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yes po, Madam Chair. Meron po kaming mga listing ng potential conflict. 1255 01:11:51,740 --> 01:11:55,280 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: But usually po, di naman between water district. 1256 01:11:55,940 --> 01:12:01,720 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Actually po, between water district and the local government unit or some water service providers po. 1257 01:12:02,660 --> 01:12:07,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mga ilan yung ganitong dispute or conflict areas all over the country? 1258 01:12:08,020 --> 01:12:13,160 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: If with the provision of the Chair, pwede po namin i-provide yung list later on. 1259 01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:16,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Please do. Either during this hearing or bago nung plenary. 1260 01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:25,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And in general, kung ilan man ang mga ito na may actual or potential conflict, may sapat na panahon ba? 1261 01:12:25,460 --> 01:12:31,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ang NWRB para i-resolve ito bago tumama yung pinakamalakas na epekto ng Super El Nino? 1262 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:37,540 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Ang strategy po na Madam Chair ngayon is to resolve yung mga conflict kung saan po yung mga water stress. 1263 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,760 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: You prioritize po kung saan po yung mga water stress areas. 1264 01:12:41,900 --> 01:12:50,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Priority nyo. Pero hindi ko matansya yung scale kasi bibigay nyo pa lang sa subcommittee namin yung bilang. 1265 01:12:50,780 --> 01:12:55,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero kakayanin nyo po ba ma-resolve itong mga priority? 1266 01:12:55,460 --> 01:13:01,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Conflict or dispute areas bago pa nga yung kasagsagan ng Super El Nino? 1267 01:13:02,180 --> 01:13:06,200 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: We will tingnan po muna namin yung timeline, Madam Chair. 1268 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sige po. Pahingin na lang nung data na yun para matignan din yung subcommittee namin. 1269 01:13:14,460 --> 01:13:22,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then, last sa paksang ito, nakausap nyo na po ba ang DPWH? 1270 01:13:23,180 --> 01:13:24,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Whether NWRB or LUA? 1271 01:13:25,460 --> 01:13:34,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Usap ba ang DP ukol sa pagtap ng pondo para sa level 1 water supply system since yan po ang hawak ng DP? 1272 01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Administrator Salonga. 1273 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,680 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, Mr. Secretary, bukas po may meeting po kami. 1274 01:13:40,900 --> 01:13:43,700 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Makipag-meeting po ako kay Sec. Dizon regarding that matter. 1275 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: When are you meeting the Secretary? 1276 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:47,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tomorrow po. 1277 01:13:47,060 --> 01:13:50,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sorry, tomorrow. Okay, great. So well within the budget season. 1278 01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:53,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paki-update na lang yung subcommittee namin tungkol dyan. 1279 01:13:55,460 --> 01:14:04,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Before we move on to the MWSSRO, just a few follow-up questions. 1280 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ayan, bago lang magpatuloy. 1281 01:14:06,860 --> 01:14:13,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tanong kay Sec. Kuna, ipipresent nyo po ba yung budget ng OSEC and attached agencies? 1282 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:22,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Para yung mga slides makita at mapag-usapan natin. 1283 01:14:22,420 --> 01:14:22,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Oo. 1284 01:14:24,340 --> 01:14:25,440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, we just. 1285 01:14:25,460 --> 01:14:28,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please. Thank you. So you'll be able to do that during this hearing? 1286 01:14:29,140 --> 01:14:38,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, better. Kasi ganun din kami sanay na may pace at saka may supporting visuals. 1287 01:14:38,780 --> 01:14:42,640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, if I may add, still on the same topic on El Nino. 1288 01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:52,480 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We have, through an executive order in 2023 from the President, the Water Resource Management Office was created. 1289 01:14:52,480 --> 01:15:00,100 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Supposedly, it was a precursor for the Department of Water, Madam Chair. 1290 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:13,380 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So this is under the DENR, which is why we have integrated the other water-related offices under this WRMO, namely NWRB. 1291 01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,400 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: ... 1292 01:15:13,540 --> 01:15:22,800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Well, NWRB has been our attached agency since time immemorial, but the LUA and the MWSS, kasama na rin po namin. 1293 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:30,320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: But under the WRMO itself, they have some proposed projects also for next year. 1294 01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:34,960 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: But actually, they're existing projects and there are some projects proposed for next year. 1295 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:39,800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: These are specifically water filtration program, desalination. 1296 01:15:40,860 --> 01:15:46,340 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: These are small infrastructure, small structures, Madam Chair. 1297 01:15:46,340 --> 01:15:52,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Water filtration for fresh water and then refilling stations, water tanks. 1298 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: For water districts or LGUs. 1299 01:15:54,260 --> 01:16:02,320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And then yung geo-resistivity survey, Madam Chair, which is essentially like exploration for more water resources. 1300 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So there's a budget proposed for this. 1301 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:12,320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: It's 223,064,000 total for these different. 1302 01:16:12,420 --> 01:16:17,920 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: There are existing projects already, Madam Chair, which I have actually personally visited a few of them. 1303 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,920 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And they're very beneficial. 1304 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:35,720 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Beneficial in the sense that most of these identified areas we chose were those which were very hard to reach or underserved talaga in terms of access to water, Madam Chair. 1305 01:16:36,860 --> 01:16:43,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And SEC, itong 223,000,000 para sa lahat ng klase ng mga small water impounding systems na ito. 1306 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasama na po ba ito dun sa... 1307 01:16:46,020 --> 01:16:46,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Madam Chair, if I may. 1308 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:47,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hindi ko mga... 1309 01:16:48,460 --> 01:16:49,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hindi ko mga Swiss ito. 1310 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:49,560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Sorry. 1311 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:50,560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Water filtration program. 1312 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:51,800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Programs yung iba. 1313 01:16:53,060 --> 01:16:54,320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Summer desalination. 1314 01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:55,280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yung iba, fresh water. 1315 01:16:55,420 --> 01:16:57,560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Para lang maging potable to the people. 1316 01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:58,600 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: The access lang. 1317 01:16:58,700 --> 01:17:10,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Because many of these are in island communities, island barangays, or really far-flung areas that people have to travel very far to get access to water. 1318 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:16,460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So there are certain areas that we pinpointed that we put up these projects, Madam Chair. 1319 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:20,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, SEC. 1320 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:32,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So before we go on to the MWRO, a question actually na nabanggit din kanina about, I think it was the Secretary, about Manila Water, Maynilad, for example. 1321 01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:43,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paalala lang, SEC or USEC Annalisa, to please prepare the data for the subcommittee on the most vulnerable areas. 1322 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Most, middling, and least vulnerable to Super El Nino. 1323 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And kung handa na rin kayo at that point with the... 1324 01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:57,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Overlay map para ma-read into the record yung mga areas most vulnerable dun sa Super El Nino. 1325 01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:01,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Are you ready already now, USEC Annalisa, or shall, in a bit? 1326 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:09,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Our technical person is not here to show the overlay of the map, but... 1327 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Babalik ba siya? Darating ba siya later in the hearing? 1328 01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Usually, pag-budget hearing, the technical people are here. 1329 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:17,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bakit wala? 1330 01:18:18,220 --> 01:18:20,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: We did that into the mapping. 1331 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:28,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: We need the data on the most vulnerable areas, and pag-visual, mas nakakatulong, pati sa subcommittee. 1332 01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, that can be read into the record. 1333 01:18:32,380 --> 01:18:34,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sige, ma'am, we'll wait for that during this hearing. 1334 01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, let's go on to questions to the MWRO. 1335 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:40,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sino po? 1336 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:44,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Chief Regulator T. 1337 01:18:45,260 --> 01:18:45,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes. 1338 01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:45,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, sir. 1339 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, moving from DNR... 1340 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:58,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ano naman naghahanda para sa Super El Nino, yung mga malalaking water concessionaires ng MWSS, so, Maynilad and Manila Water? 1341 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,280 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Secretary. 1342 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:06,620 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: With the MWSSRO actually started preparations and planning for an El Nino last 2022. 1343 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:13,360 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: We have a presentation here, if you'll allow us to present the significant figures of what we have done. 1344 01:19:13,660 --> 01:19:14,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please proceed. 1345 01:19:14,580 --> 01:19:14,880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Thank you. 1346 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:20,160 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The experience of 2026 provides perhaps the clearest illustration of why continued investment, 1347 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,020 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: innovation, and effective regulation are so important to our water sector. 1348 01:19:24,020 --> 01:19:30,820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Last July, Angat Dam reached 150 meters, the lowest level ever recorded. 1349 01:19:31,380 --> 01:19:38,740 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The previous record low was at 157 meters, a level that would normally result in water service interruptions. 1350 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Despite reaching this historic low, we did not experience a water crisis. 1351 01:19:43,340 --> 01:19:44,440 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This was not by chance. 1352 01:19:44,820 --> 01:19:49,060 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: It was made possible by the timely implementation of critical water projects 1353 01:19:49,060 --> 01:19:50,740 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: combined with operations in the MWRO. 1354 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The MWSSRO has made substantial adjustments and mitigating measures undertaken by the concessionaires 1355 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,160 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: in coordination and monitored by the MWSS Regulatory Office. 1356 01:19:57,660 --> 01:20:02,540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: First, on the supply augmentation, Manila Water has started several projects 1357 01:20:02,540 --> 01:20:08,100 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: and several projects since the 2022 rate rebasing, and several have already been delivered. 1358 01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:15,900 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This includes the 50 MLD East Bay Phase 1 water treatment plant and the 15 MLD Marikina Portable treatment plant. 1359 01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:20,680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: We are also maximizing existing facilities, including the optimization of the Cardona, 1360 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:25,500 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Water Treatment Plant that sources water from Laguna Lake and the Calauis Treatment Plant 1361 01:20:25,500 --> 01:20:27,900 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: that is sourcing water from the Upper Wawa Dam. 1362 01:20:28,340 --> 01:20:33,980 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This is the first dam since the 1960s that was delivered for portable water in Metro Manila. 1363 01:20:34,620 --> 01:20:39,680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: And in the coming months, additional capacity is expected from East Bay Phase 2, 1364 01:20:40,020 --> 01:20:47,080 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: 200 MLD by the month of October, and the Kaisaka Treatment Plant with 220 MLD by November 2026. 1365 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,740 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: These projects demonstrate an important principle, water security, 1366 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: cannot depend on a single source. 1367 01:20:52,760 --> 01:21:02,660 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: We need multiple sources, multiple treatment facilities, and multiple options that can be activated depending on the actual conditions. 1368 01:21:02,660 --> 01:21:07,000 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The same approach is being undertaken by Manila in the West Zone. 1369 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,000 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Next slide, please. 1370 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:14,200 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This includes the Anabu, Julian, and Molino Modular Treatment Plants, 1371 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:18,680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: which provides additional treatment facilities, particularly in the province of Cavite. 1372 01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,660 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Manila is also developing alternative water treatment plants, which are also being developed in the West Zone. 1373 01:21:20,660 --> 01:21:23,460 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This includes administrative water sources through its new water projects. 1374 01:21:23,460 --> 01:21:28,840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: In Paranaque, treated waste water will undergo further treatment to produce 1375 01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: portable water that can be delivered to Manila customers. 1376 01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:37,100 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This is an important development because it allows us to look beyond traditional raw water sources 1377 01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:42,000 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: and make use of technologies that can provide additional and more resilient sources of supply. 1378 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:48,060 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The new water programme will also be expanded through additional facilities in Valenzuela and Pasay in the coming months. 1379 01:21:48,060 --> 01:21:50,040 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I would like to also raise that this new water supply programme will be expanded in the next two years, 1380 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:50,580 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: It will be expanded to additional facilities in Valenzuela and Pasay in the coming months. 1381 01:21:50,580 --> 01:21:56,180 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: facility of manila of manila is actually the first in asia to do direct portable resource reuse 1382 01:21:57,300 --> 01:22:01,700 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: so at the same time uh my net is also continuing to optimize its upgrading its 1383 01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:08,020 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: southern treatment plants including potato one two and population to help offset reduced production 1384 01:22:08,020 --> 01:22:12,660 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: from the lamesa treatment plants so our strategy is not simply to find one new source of water 1385 01:22:12,660 --> 01:22:17,300 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: it is to develop several sources and maximize the available option next slide please 1386 01:22:17,300 --> 01:22:26,100 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: next time please second water security is not only about producing more water it's also about 1387 01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:30,580 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: managing the water we already have that is why operational adjustments and effective 1388 01:22:30,580 --> 01:22:35,220 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: regulations become critical both concessionaires are implementing pressure management through 1389 01:22:35,220 --> 01:22:40,340 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: pressure regulating valves and controllers to ensure that available water is distributed as 1390 01:22:40,340 --> 01:22:46,420 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: efficiently and equitably as possible they are also using real-time monitoring and demand projections 1391 01:22:47,300 --> 01:22:49,260 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: of reservoir levels. This allows 1392 01:22:49,260 --> 01:22:51,260 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: them to respond to current demands while maintaining 1393 01:22:51,260 --> 01:22:53,320 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: sufficient storage for the following day. 1394 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:55,400 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Third, 1395 01:22:55,980 --> 01:22:56,820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: non-revenue water. 1396 01:22:57,220 --> 01:22:59,480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I think the Madam Chair 1397 01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:01,380 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: was mentioning about non-revenue water. 1398 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,460 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Non-revenue water is one of the areas 1399 01:23:03,460 --> 01:23:05,300 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: where we can recover water that is 1400 01:23:05,300 --> 01:23:07,060 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: already being produced but is 1401 01:23:07,060 --> 01:23:09,260 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: being lost before it reaches consumers. 1402 01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:11,320 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: For Manila water, the target 1403 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,260 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: is to maintain non-revenue water 1404 01:23:13,260 --> 01:23:15,300 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: below 15%. It is already at 1405 01:23:15,300 --> 01:23:17,180 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: the international level since the 1406 01:23:17,180 --> 01:23:19,020 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: target for international is really 1407 01:23:19,020 --> 01:23:20,780 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: 20%. For Manila, 1408 01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,060 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: while non-revenue water is still at 1409 01:23:23,060 --> 01:23:25,340 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: 29%, this has been reduced 1410 01:23:25,340 --> 01:23:27,220 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: from 44% last 1411 01:23:27,220 --> 01:23:28,940 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: 2021 to just 1412 01:23:28,940 --> 01:23:31,120 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: 29% today. This represents 1413 01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: a significant reduction in a few 1414 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,240 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: years. We're 1415 01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:36,820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: talking about just a three-year reduction of 1416 01:23:36,820 --> 01:23:38,880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: more than 10%, 1417 01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,100 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: which resulted in the recovery of 1418 01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:42,640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: nearly 500 MLD. 1419 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,040 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: In simple terms, every reduction 1420 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,000 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: in physical water losses means more 1421 01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: water that can actually be delivered to 1422 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: consumers without having to develop 1423 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,120 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: an entirely new source. 1424 01:23:52,620 --> 01:23:53,140 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Next slide, please. 1425 01:23:55,300 --> 01:23:56,720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Fourth, we are also 1426 01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,780 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: looking at other options that we can 1427 01:23:58,780 --> 01:24:00,720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: do to help our efforts 1428 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,420 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: in case that 1429 01:24:02,420 --> 01:24:04,820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: existing supplies may not be sufficient. 1430 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:06,760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: This includes maintaining 1431 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:08,760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: emergency resources such as 1432 01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:10,800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: mobile water tankers and static water 1433 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: tanks, as well as rain catchers and additional 1434 01:24:12,820 --> 01:24:14,760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: reservoir capacities. All of these 1435 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: measures point to one objective, 1436 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,660 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: resilience. We are ensuring that 1437 01:24:18,660 --> 01:24:20,560 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Metro Manila will not suffer any 1438 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,520 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: water service interruption or any water 1439 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,520 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: crisis. That is the commitment that we made 1440 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,460 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: in 2022, and that is the commitment 1441 01:24:26,460 --> 01:24:28,600 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: that we intend to keep. Thank you. 1442 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:30,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you. I hope there are 1443 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: MWSS-like agencies 1444 01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: all over the country na may ganong target 1445 01:24:34,740 --> 01:24:36,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: din sa mga lugar sa labas ng 1446 01:24:36,700 --> 01:24:38,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Metro Manila. Anyway, 1447 01:24:39,060 --> 01:24:40,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: so Chief Regulator T, kanina 1448 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pinag-uusapan, ano yung 1449 01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: coordination at conflict resolution with 1450 01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: in water districts. Ngayon, yung 1451 01:24:46,700 --> 01:24:48,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: isang tanong ko sa inyo, may 1452 01:24:48,440 --> 01:24:50,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: naka-set up na po bang parang 1453 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pass-through arrangement 1454 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para payagan yung isang water 1455 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: concessionaire na mag-supply 1456 01:24:56,820 --> 01:24:58,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng tubig sa mga lugar na sakop ng 1457 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ibang water concessionaire, pero 1458 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may water supply shortfall doon? 1459 01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,000 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Right now, we are 1460 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: actually 1461 01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,620 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: discussing with Manila Water 1462 01:25:08,620 --> 01:25:10,880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: and Mainland to pass on to themselves. 1463 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,040 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Right now, they're 1464 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:14,640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: probably going to enter into that 1465 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: water supply agreement just in case for 1466 01:25:16,540 --> 01:25:18,280 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: emergency. So, Manila Water 1467 01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: has actually excess capacity and 1468 01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: they will be selling this water to Mainilad 1469 01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:24,100 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: just for redundancy purposes. 1470 01:25:24,660 --> 01:25:26,720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Now, with regard to doing that 1471 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:28,820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: outside, we are also exploring that. 1472 01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:30,760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: We are exploring that in 1473 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: doing that in Laguna, 1474 01:25:33,260 --> 01:25:34,940 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: but that's 1475 01:25:34,940 --> 01:25:36,020 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: still subject for discussion. 1476 01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,440 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Right now, we are also doing it for Rizal. 1477 01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:40,680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: There's an existing 1478 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: bulk water supply agreement for several 1479 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,740 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: water districts in the province of Rizal. 1480 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,300 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Because that is also part of the 1481 01:25:46,300 --> 01:25:48,480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: concession area of Manila Water. 1482 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:50,900 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: But if it's 1483 01:25:50,900 --> 01:25:52,400 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: going to be outside Metro Manila, 1484 01:25:52,540 --> 01:25:54,460 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: outside the concession area, there's also 1485 01:25:54,460 --> 01:25:56,900 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: the MWSS Corporate Office also has a 1486 01:25:56,900 --> 01:25:58,720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: bulk water supply agreement with Bulacan. 1487 01:25:59,540 --> 01:26:00,620 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So, those are the 1488 01:26:00,620 --> 01:26:02,700 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: outside the Metro Manila 1489 01:26:02,700 --> 01:26:04,580 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: bulk water supply agreements that we are 1490 01:26:04,580 --> 01:26:06,740 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: currently looking into, but we 1491 01:26:06,740 --> 01:26:08,600 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: are also exploring other options to 1492 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: assist the other areas that needs assistance. 1493 01:26:11,480 --> 01:26:11,800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Thank you. 1494 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, sinimulan nyo lang banggitin yung mga 1495 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:14,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: lalawigan sa... 1496 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Central Luzon sa Southern Tagalog, 1497 01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: particular yung Bulacan, paano 1498 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: naman kaya tinutulungan ng 1499 01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:22,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: regulatory office nyo, 1500 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung pag-share ng tubig 1501 01:26:25,340 --> 01:26:26,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mula Anggat Dam 1502 01:26:26,460 --> 01:26:29,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: with Bulacan Bulk Water 1503 01:26:29,180 --> 01:26:30,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: saka water districts 1504 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa lalawigan, dun sa 1505 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: hosting province ng Bulacan? 1506 01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:36,920 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Sir, that is actually under 1507 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,940 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: the MWSS Corporate 1508 01:26:38,940 --> 01:26:40,880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Office. I'm from the regulatory office, 1509 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: but I know that a part of the 1510 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,740 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: allocation from the Anggat Dam and the 1511 01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,960 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: NWRB, there's an allocation 1512 01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:48,820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: for the Bulacan Bulk. But I think 1513 01:26:48,820 --> 01:26:50,900 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: the NWRB is in a better position to 1514 01:26:50,900 --> 01:26:52,840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: answer that. Yes, could 1515 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:54,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the NWRB weigh in on this? 1516 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,840 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yes, Madam Chair, from the 1517 01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,020 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: allocation being released 1518 01:26:59,020 --> 01:27:01,180 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: from the Anggat Dam, meron pong 1519 01:27:01,180 --> 01:27:03,000 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: share yung Bulacan Bulk 1520 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,040 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: for the Bulacan 1521 01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:06,640 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: stakeholders po. 1522 01:27:06,940 --> 01:27:07,780 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: It's around 1523 01:27:07,780 --> 01:27:11,180 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: more than 2 cubic meters per second 1524 01:27:11,180 --> 01:27:13,080 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: po, ang regular allocation 1525 01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,740 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: nila ngayon coming from the Anggat Dam. 1526 01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:15,300 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Madam Chair. 1527 01:27:17,340 --> 01:27:19,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And sapat na po ba yun 1528 01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para dun sa 1529 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: water districts at yung Bulacan Bulk Water? 1530 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:24,760 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Sa ngayon po, if we look 1531 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:26,540 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: at the demand po ng 1532 01:27:26,540 --> 01:27:28,260 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Bulacan Water Districts, 1533 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,560 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: medyo kulang po yun. That's why 1534 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,480 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: we are now, the 1535 01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:34,800 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Bulacan Bulk Company 1536 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,940 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: yung po provide, is now 1537 01:27:36,940 --> 01:27:38,860 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: looking at developing additional water 1538 01:27:38,860 --> 01:27:40,720 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: source na outside 1539 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,760 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: of the Anggat Dam, Madam Chair, kasi po 1540 01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:43,880 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: sa ngayon, medyo, 1541 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,200 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: yung allocation 1542 01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,200 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: nang gagaling from the Anggat Dam. 1543 01:27:49,620 --> 01:27:51,020 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Then, we are now looking 1544 01:27:51,020 --> 01:27:52,920 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: the possibility of developing other 1545 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,220 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: sources outside of Anggat Dam 1546 01:27:55,220 --> 01:27:57,020 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: but within Bulacan Bulk. 1547 01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then, dun pa rin sa 1548 01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ibang areas sa Central 1549 01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:02,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Luzon at Southern Tagalog, 1550 01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may mga similar arrangements na po ba 1551 01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:07,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tulad nito para naman sa mga 1552 01:28:07,100 --> 01:28:09,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: municipalities, mga water districts 1553 01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa palibot ng 1554 01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:13,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Manila Bay at yung host ng 1555 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:14,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Wawa Bulk Water Dam. 1556 01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa Montalban at Antipolo 1557 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Lalawigo naman ang Rizal. May similar na po 1558 01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:19,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: bang nabubuong ganon? 1559 01:28:20,820 --> 01:28:21,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Chief Regulator. 1560 01:28:22,020 --> 01:28:24,780 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Madam Chair, the Opera Wawa Dam has 1561 01:28:24,780 --> 01:28:26,760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: just been developed and it's just been delivered 1562 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: two, three years ago. 1563 01:28:29,220 --> 01:28:30,860 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So, the first water was actually 1564 01:28:30,860 --> 01:28:33,140 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: with Calawis 1565 01:28:33,140 --> 01:28:34,800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: producing 80 MLD 1566 01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,780 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: and another 220 1567 01:28:36,780 --> 01:28:38,960 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: will be delivered by next month 1568 01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: at Kaysakat in Rizal also. 1569 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,600 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So, this will be providing water in the province 1570 01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: of Rizal. There's also 1571 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: another expansion project soon in Pasig, 1572 01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:48,760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: the city of Pasig, to deliver 1573 01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: another 200 MLD 1574 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,320 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: to Metro Manila. 1575 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So, those are the initial plans right now. 1576 01:28:54,780 --> 01:28:56,820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: They have actually another 100 MLD, 1577 01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:58,420 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I think more than 100 MLD 1578 01:28:58,420 --> 01:29:00,100 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: available, but 1579 01:29:00,100 --> 01:29:02,240 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: so far, no other 1580 01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,420 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: off-taker has been 1581 01:29:04,420 --> 01:29:06,420 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: expressed interest in buying 1582 01:29:06,420 --> 01:29:07,380 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: this excess water. 1583 01:29:08,540 --> 01:29:10,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero nag-express na ng interest yung mga nasa 1584 01:29:10,440 --> 01:29:12,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: palibot ng Manila Bay, for one. 1585 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:13,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Not in Metro Manila Bay. 1586 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:14,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Manila Bay, 1587 01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Laguna Bay, sorry. 1588 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,160 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: No. There's no one that's 1589 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:20,220 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: expressed interest so far. 1590 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:23,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Montalban, Antipolo? 1591 01:29:23,540 --> 01:29:24,480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: It's covered by 1592 01:29:24,480 --> 01:29:26,160 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Manila Water. 1593 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,180 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The province of Rizal is covered by Manila Water. 1594 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,340 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So, it's either being 1595 01:29:31,340 --> 01:29:33,160 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: serviced directly by Manila Water or via 1596 01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,120 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: bulk water service agreement with the 1597 01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:35,700 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Water District. 1598 01:29:37,660 --> 01:29:38,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Surprising lang na walang 1599 01:29:38,940 --> 01:29:40,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: uptakers pa. 1600 01:29:42,140 --> 01:29:42,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kailangan ba 1601 01:29:42,780 --> 01:29:44,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nagdagdag na impormasyon mula sa, 1602 01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa offices nyo para i-match yung 1603 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:48,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: need at saka yung 1604 01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:50,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: available oversupply? 1605 01:29:51,020 --> 01:29:52,840 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The issue is really the distance 1606 01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:54,480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: between the source and the location 1607 01:29:54,480 --> 01:29:56,120 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: because you need to bring the water 1608 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: to that location. So, it's actually 1609 01:29:58,540 --> 01:29:59,600 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: going to be very expensive. 1610 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: That's why the majority of the water is being distributed in Rizal because the water source is inside Rizal. 1611 01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:28,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero doon papasok yung ibang mga pamamaraan na tinalakay nyo kanina, iba't ibang resource persons, including yung mga tankers, para lang i-deliver, i-dugtong yung mga tubig mula sa kung saan may oversupply doon sa mga area na nangangailangan, kung walang malinaw na transfer mechanism. 1612 01:30:28,140 --> 01:30:44,220 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Tankers are only for emergency use because it's going to be very expensive to deliver water via tanker. We want, actually, our policy is it should be from the tap, to be delivered to your house via the water pipes, if not through tankers because it's going to be too expensive. 1613 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:58,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But we'll be counting on the department and the attached agencies to work something out in this interim ng Super El Nino, at least, habang nilalatag nyo lahat ng infrastructure para from source to tap. 1614 01:30:58,140 --> 01:31:01,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, mga kadaloy, mga nakarating yung tubig sa mga bahay. 1615 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:02,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. 1616 01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:04,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po. Yes, Administrator Salonga. 1617 01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:06,200 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chairman, Mr. Secretary. 1618 01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:14,380 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Yung isa kasing issues, that's why some water districts don't want to necessarily buy from the concessionaires in Metro Manila. 1619 01:31:14,540 --> 01:31:19,000 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Kasi meron pong nakadagdag na surcharge po yun. 25 or 30 percent? 1620 01:31:19,740 --> 01:31:20,660 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Environmental charge. 1621 01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,140 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Yeah. Environmental charge. 1622 01:31:23,140 --> 01:31:27,580 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Meron po kasing surcharge yun. I think 30 percent. 1623 01:31:28,020 --> 01:31:28,120 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So, I don't know. 1624 01:31:28,140 --> 01:31:30,900 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So, aside from the bulk water bill, meron kang surcharge. 1625 01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:38,460 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: The water districts, saka yung constituents nila may not be necessarily agreeable with that kind of bulk water rate. 1626 01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:42,180 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Saka hindi nila mapasa kagad sa rates nila kasi ang mahal kagad. 1627 01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:46,000 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So, that's one issue that I'm trying to resolve with the regulator team. 1628 01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:54,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ang mahal nga kung 30 percent. But if it's an environmental charge, nasa shop ng buong department, diba? At yung agencies ninyo. 1629 01:31:54,900 --> 01:31:57,480 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Sorry. The environmental charge is basically the... 1630 01:31:57,480 --> 01:32:03,880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: The charge for maintaining of the watersheds and the wastewater of Manila Water and Maynilad. 1631 01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:12,400 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So, that's why actually every residential customers of Manila Water and Maynilad are entitled to dislodging services once every five years. 1632 01:32:12,780 --> 01:32:16,760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: It's not free. It's actually part of your water bill and you are paying for it already. 1633 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:20,880 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: And that is covered by the environmental charge. It also covers for their watershed protection. 1634 01:32:22,380 --> 01:32:22,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Well, since... 1635 01:32:23,740 --> 01:32:26,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Of course, again, sabi ko kanina, importante yung strategic... 1636 01:32:27,480 --> 01:32:30,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: The trajectory ng department and mga attached agencies. 1637 01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But meron din po tayong isang urgent focus ngayon, the Super El Nino. 1638 01:32:34,700 --> 01:32:38,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, I'm sure the regulatory office has already thought about this. 1639 01:32:38,980 --> 01:32:47,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung ano yung pwedeng arrangements kahit dun sa mga concessionaires para ma-ease ng konti yung pressure sa mga customers nila. 1640 01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:49,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At least in the next months. 1641 01:32:49,740 --> 01:32:51,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po, Chief Regulator. 1642 01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:56,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Some additional questions sa NWR. 1643 01:32:57,480 --> 01:33:16,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Dr. David, paano po ima-manage ng NWRB yung nakaambang pressure tungkol sa pagtaas ng presyo, ng singil or rates ngayong posibleng kumonte yung water supply kumpara sa demand? 1644 01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,800 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. 1645 01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,060 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: With the permission of the Secretary. 1646 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:26,120 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yun naman pong NWRB is niregulate po yung rates. 1647 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:27,360 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: But di po natin... 1648 01:33:27,480 --> 01:33:31,000 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Pwedeng direct ang ikonekta ngayon sa nakaambang El Nino. 1649 01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:41,340 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: But ang focus po ng NWRB ngayon is how to provide, yung anticipate saan po yung magkakaroon ng issue on deficit or possible supply issue. 1650 01:33:41,340 --> 01:33:50,240 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: But focus on how water can be made available to these areas without directly connecting it sa ngayon po, dun sa rates po. 1651 01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:54,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Siguro nga po. 1652 01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero syempre, nasa isip yun ng mga... 1653 01:33:57,480 --> 01:34:00,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: constituents nyo at mga consumers ng tubig. 1654 01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:05,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano magsusurvive na kulang nga yung tubig pero tataas pa yung rate. 1655 01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:13,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Parang it's kontra sa dapat na relief na hinahanap nila. 1656 01:34:13,900 --> 01:34:17,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung by ordinary operation of the market, syempre mas konting supply, mas mahal. 1657 01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But double whammy yun sa mga consumers. 1658 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kaya please keep that question in mind. 1659 01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I-follow up ko sa board ninyo. 1660 01:34:25,740 --> 01:34:28,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I'm sure may colleagues sa plenary. 1661 01:34:29,140 --> 01:34:41,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And ano po yung ginagawa ng NRWB sa ngayon, NWRB, sa susunod na taon, 2027, para itulak yung pagkakaroon ng bagong water sources? 1662 01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:47,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung mayroon po kayong gustong idagdag sa napag-usapan na at dagdagan din yung utilization ng existing water sources. 1663 01:34:48,900 --> 01:34:50,560 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Yes, thank you Madam Chair. 1664 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:55,560 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Sa ngayon po Madam Chair, we are working with WRMOO on the various... 1665 01:34:55,740 --> 01:35:04,740 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: feasibility studies that were prepared through WRMOO, particularly yung mga development po ng mga new sources. 1666 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:13,640 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: And likewise, may mga projects po ang NWRB, yung mga water resource assessment ng mga major river basins, 1667 01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:21,360 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: and part of that assessment, yung identification po ng mga possible sources na pwede pong matap, 1668 01:35:21,940 --> 01:35:24,800 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: particularly development ng mga impounding system. 1669 01:35:24,980 --> 01:35:25,640 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Kasi napaka-importante. 1670 01:35:25,740 --> 01:35:30,620 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: Napaka-importante po sa ngayon, Madam Chair, na maging climate resilient yung mga river basins, 1671 01:35:31,060 --> 01:35:39,400 NWRB Executive Director Sevillo D. David Jr.: and part of the strategy is the development ng mga impounding system that can be a bit more multipurpose po ang beneficial effect po. 1672 01:35:42,260 --> 01:35:55,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And nabanggit din nga po kanina yung rainwater catchment facilities, lalo na sa mga LGUs na maraming taon nang mandated to construct and operate those facilities. 1673 01:35:55,740 --> 01:35:56,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mandated by law. 1674 01:35:58,820 --> 01:36:13,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Speaking of the WMRO, WMRO is executing a 100 million peso direct grant facility targeting unserved and island water systems via the local water districts. 1675 01:36:14,500 --> 01:36:23,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Saan-saan po yan gagawin? At anong mga specific activities at items po ba ang pupondohan ng grant facility na iyon, Administrator Salongka? 1676 01:36:23,900 --> 01:36:24,980 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair. 1677 01:36:25,740 --> 01:36:37,240 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: In partnership with the WRMO, we are identifying these water districts na viable or at least qualified to enter into this, to receive these grants. 1678 01:36:37,700 --> 01:36:48,420 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Tinitinan po kasi namin, minsan magbibigay ka doon, wala namang community tatanggap at mag-maintain, lalo na magbumukhang desalination facility po yan, magkakaproblema po tayo. 1679 01:36:48,420 --> 01:36:54,420 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So baka masayang. So gagawa kami ng criteria, which water districts ang pupwedeng tumanggap. 1680 01:36:55,740 --> 01:37:03,400 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: To maintain and operate these systems. Kasi parang masasayang lang natin kung maglalagay lang tayo ng facility doon at hindi mapapatakbong mabuti. 1681 01:37:05,480 --> 01:37:09,520 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Tinatapos na namin po ni Yusek Rodriguez yung qualifications po niyan. 1682 01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:14,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So nasa qualification setting pa lang kayo, hindi nyo pa na-identify yung mga locality? 1683 01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:22,500 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: For, may previous na po, for 2027, lalagyan namin ng qualifications para siguradong magagamit yung mga facilities. 1684 01:37:22,500 --> 01:37:25,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So i-update nyo lamang po for next year? 1685 01:37:25,740 --> 01:37:26,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Madam Chair. 1686 01:37:26,540 --> 01:37:37,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa ngayon, ilang mga lugar ang kinalalagyan itong mga island water systems sa local water district? 1687 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:44,880 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, previously hindi kami privy. Ngayon lang kami magko-coordinate regarding yung matters ng qualifications. 1688 01:37:45,420 --> 01:37:48,800 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: But we will get back to you doon sa nalagyan ng WRMO. 1689 01:37:49,340 --> 01:37:53,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Please do. Sino ba dati ang privy sa data na yun? Kung hindi kayo? 1690 01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:55,680 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Si Yusek David. 1691 01:37:55,740 --> 01:38:14,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Si Yusek David, the former Yusek. Okay. And then, habang ina-update nyo yung listahan ng saan-saan gagawin ito, may specific activities at items na ba na tukoy nyo na isasama sa grant facility na ito for next year? 1692 01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:22,040 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, since ang targeted niya is island, that could be deep well construction or desalination facilities. 1693 01:38:23,440 --> 01:38:23,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. 1694 01:38:25,740 --> 01:38:27,700 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Depende po sa location. 1695 01:38:30,980 --> 01:38:31,540 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Sige. 1696 01:38:31,780 --> 01:38:33,580 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, may may. Madam Chair. 1697 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Yusek. I mean, Sekuna. 1698 01:38:35,780 --> 01:38:46,820 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yeah. The existing structures, I went to a few as I mentioned earlier, in relation to what Administrator Joyce Salonga said. 1699 01:38:46,820 --> 01:38:53,080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So, they're either the barangay or a people's organization, an association in the area. 1700 01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:54,280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Randy, you know. 1701 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:55,700 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And charge a minimum. 1702 01:38:55,740 --> 01:39:04,460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: A minimal fee just for the maintenance of the area, of the structure, and for the repairs if necessary. 1703 01:39:05,300 --> 01:39:10,600 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, in relation to the map you were mentioning earlier, we are ready to present now. 1704 01:39:10,940 --> 01:39:11,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes. 1705 01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:17,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Great. Tamang-tama. Before going on to other concerns with these agencies, please, let's backtrack to that. 1706 01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:25,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung map overlay na ginawa nyo para identify yung three levels of vulnerability and projected 1707 01:39:25,740 --> 01:39:29,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: impact by the Super El Ni?o, 1708 01:39:29,220 --> 01:39:30,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: please proceed Yusek, Analisa. 1709 01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:35,800 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Madam Chair, ma'am, may I introduce Ms. Villa Estolero to present the map? 1710 01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:43,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Parang presiding officer namin on your mind. Parang I read Estolero. Estolero ba? Escudero? 1711 01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:45,620 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Estolero po, Madam Chair. 1712 01:39:45,780 --> 01:39:48,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. So, please proceed, Ms. Villa. 1713 01:39:49,100 --> 01:39:49,900 DENR Undersecretary Analiza Rebuelta-Teh: Ay, ma'am. 1714 01:39:55,740 --> 01:40:25,720 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Thank you. 1715 01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:38,140 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: While the map is waiting to be flashed, I will explain the methodology of how the most vulnerable barangays were assessed based on available spatial data. 1716 01:40:38,140 --> 01:40:54,560 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: So first of all, we have three available data when we weighted criteria po ng mga most vulnerable sa drought. 1717 01:40:54,560 --> 01:41:08,740 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: We have the DOST Pag-asa Drought Projections by December 2026 and the Groundwater Stressed Areas from NWRB based on their latest available data of 2025. 1718 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:22,460 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: And the Water Service Provider Data based on NWRB Listahang Tubig 2025, DILG Subay Bayan, and available WRMO data. 1719 01:41:22,460 --> 01:41:25,760 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: So these three factors were weighted. 1720 01:41:26,500 --> 01:41:32,880 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: So for groundwater stress, there's a score of 1 for groundwater stress and 0 for non-groundwater. 1721 01:41:33,300 --> 01:41:43,400 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Water service coverage, 1 if there are no water service providers in the area and 0 if it is covered by a water service provider. 1722 01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:49,180 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: And the Pag-asa Drought Outlook based on the classification of DOST Pag-asa. 1723 01:41:49,500 --> 01:41:52,040 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Drought for 3, dry spell for 2. 1724 01:41:52,460 --> 01:41:54,720 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Dry condition 1, then not affected 0. 1725 01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:58,340 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Then the scores were summed to determine the priority category. 1726 01:41:58,340 --> 01:42:01,760 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: So high priority with a total score of greater than 3. 1727 01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:05,760 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Moderate priority with a total score of equal to 2. 1728 01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:08,340 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Low priority with a total score of equal to 1. 1729 01:42:08,620 --> 01:42:10,600 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: And not affected with a total score of 0. 1730 01:42:11,260 --> 01:42:16,980 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: So based on the spatial assessment and GIS analysis of the Geospatial Database Office, 1731 01:42:17,620 --> 01:42:21,720 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: we have come up that there are 14,434 barangays. 1732 01:42:22,460 --> 01:42:26,500 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Or 34% of the barangays nationwide, which are deemed high priority. 1733 01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:32,980 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: But do note that this assessment is indicative only and based on available spatial data. 1734 01:42:33,540 --> 01:42:34,560 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: And that's how we come up. 1735 01:42:34,780 --> 01:42:39,460 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: And for moderate priority, 17,046 barangays, 41%. 1736 01:42:40,300 --> 01:42:43,460 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Low priority, 9,685, 23%. 1737 01:42:44,020 --> 01:42:48,460 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: And not affected, or 883 barangays, or 2%. 1738 01:42:48,460 --> 01:42:50,460 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: But there is a specific... 1739 01:42:52,460 --> 01:42:58,800 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: Disclaimer that this is based on the drought data of Pag-Asa forecast for December 2026. 1740 01:43:00,340 --> 01:43:02,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you so much, Ms. Via. 1741 01:43:02,940 --> 01:43:08,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So itong pag-identify niyo unang-una ng 14,000 high priority barangays, 1742 01:43:08,740 --> 01:43:11,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or 34% ng mga barangays sa ating bansa. 1743 01:43:12,140 --> 01:43:16,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So naka-align na po ba sa mga ito, 1744 01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:22,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung mga Super El Nino preparation and response programs, 1745 01:43:22,460 --> 01:43:26,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: activities and projects ng department in the budget so far? 1746 01:43:30,340 --> 01:43:34,540 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: For Madam Chair, for that information, we would have to confirm. 1747 01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:41,220 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: But for the available data, we have several projects for WRMO, 1748 01:43:41,220 --> 01:43:51,740 DENR Via Lynelle Estolero: which was overlaid to determine which of these projects directly intersect these most affected areas. 1749 01:43:52,460 --> 01:43:54,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And which projects are these? 1750 01:43:54,620 --> 01:44:00,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tapos sapat na po ba yung naka-appropriate na amounts para sa mga projects na ito? 1751 01:44:01,420 --> 01:44:03,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Or should I ask WRMO? 1752 01:44:06,440 --> 01:44:07,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you, Ms. Via. 1753 01:44:08,060 --> 01:44:09,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Usec Rodriguez. 1754 01:44:09,860 --> 01:44:10,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes. 1755 01:44:11,140 --> 01:44:12,980 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Yes, good afternoon, Madam Chair. 1756 01:44:13,300 --> 01:44:14,720 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Good afternoon, Senator Cayetano. 1757 01:44:16,020 --> 01:44:21,080 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Ma'am, if I may backtrack as to the types of projects and how this actually evolved. 1758 01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:52,440 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Ma'am, the projects that were chosen were as early as 2024. And so this is not really geared towards the El Niño. It just so happens there's El Niño now. But that being said, I think whatever projects that are implemented will still apply to future El Niños because the cycle is from two to seven years, though we cannot really predict when they are. So even if certain projects are not implemented, let's say by December this year in order 1759 01:44:52,460 --> 01:44:58,980 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: To address the brunt of the El Nino, which is from January to March and probably even extend. 1760 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,560 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: that for the future El Ninos, we have it there. 1761 01:45:03,660 --> 01:45:12,260 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, ma'am, the types of projects that we have would be first in coordination and collaboration with the LUA 1762 01:45:12,260 --> 01:45:16,120 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: is the service coverage expansion of water services. 1763 01:45:16,940 --> 01:45:22,140 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Basically po, ito po yung mga water district na yung kanilang, 1764 01:45:22,140 --> 01:45:33,600 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: because there's a limit as to where their pipes are, to where they distribute their water or source capacity. 1765 01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:37,600 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, what we do is we actually grant financial assistance. 1766 01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:49,520 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: For 2027, the total amount allocated would be 124,092,000. 1767 01:45:50,700 --> 01:45:51,940 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Other than this, 1768 01:45:52,140 --> 01:45:55,560 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: we have the development and implementation of water-related projects. 1769 01:45:57,300 --> 01:46:00,440 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Ma'am, if I may, Madam Chair, just to explain, 1770 01:46:00,860 --> 01:46:06,720 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: actually, when it comes to water systems, it's not just water districts. 1771 01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:13,520 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Actually, equally the same number are water systems operated by LGUs. 1772 01:46:13,980 --> 01:46:16,800 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, they're both around 500, if I'm not mistaken. 1773 01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:21,960 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, the beneficiaries of the projects of the WRMO are both 1774 01:46:22,140 --> 01:46:23,720 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: water districts and LGUs. 1775 01:46:24,260 --> 01:46:29,100 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, when it comes to LGUs, the beneficiaries, 1776 01:46:30,460 --> 01:46:34,400 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: initial identified beneficiaries are yung mga remote island barangays 1777 01:46:34,900 --> 01:46:37,900 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: and those other barangays which are considered as isolated. 1778 01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:44,820 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Insofar as water districts are concerned, part of the criteria really is yung water districts po na 1779 01:46:45,220 --> 01:46:46,360 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: plus four, three and four, 1780 01:46:46,460 --> 01:46:46,760 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: oh, 1781 01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:49,200 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: class C and D. 1782 01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:51,820 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, the types of 1783 01:46:51,820 --> 01:46:54,020 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: projects, 1784 01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:55,700 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: I think it was mentioned already by the Secretary, 1785 01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:57,580 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: our water filtration program, 1786 01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:00,620 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: which includes desalination or fresh water. 1787 01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:02,420 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: We have water refilling stations, 1788 01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:04,920 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: water tanks for water districts and LGUs, 1789 01:47:05,380 --> 01:47:07,620 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: and yung geo-resistivity survey. 1790 01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:15,300 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: So, the total number of water-related projects that we're looking at the target for 2027 1791 01:47:15,300 --> 01:47:16,980 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: would be 180. 1792 01:47:21,820 --> 01:47:34,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Itong 180 projects, addressing both water districts and LGUs, tama po ba? 1793 01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,980 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: That's correct, Madam Chair, but mostly water districts. 1794 01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:39,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mostly water districts. 1795 01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:44,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And then itong mostly water districts na i-implementahan nyo ng projects, 1796 01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:50,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasama na sila at pati yung LGU-run water systems, 1797 01:47:50,380 --> 01:47:51,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kasama na sila dun sa 14. 1798 01:47:51,820 --> 01:47:55,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: thousand barangays na sinabi ni Ms. Villa na high priority, 1799 01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:58,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 34% of our barangays in the country. 1800 01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:09,720 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Ma'am, what actually we're looking at since the final list of the 2027 beneficiaries 1801 01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,600 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: have not yet been identified, we will include this. 1802 01:48:12,740 --> 01:48:18,460 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Ma'am, because I think this is also an important map in the sense that 1803 01:48:18,460 --> 01:48:21,460 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: for every El Nino cycle, sila rin po lagi ang tinatamaan. 1804 01:48:21,820 --> 01:48:27,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, it's a very important map kasi dun sa sinabi niya, 1805 01:48:27,220 --> 01:48:32,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: baka itong mga Masbate City, Calapan City, Isabela Cluster, Cagayan Valley, 1806 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:38,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: baka chronically naapektuhan ng El Nino, not just this Super El Nino. 1807 01:48:39,540 --> 01:48:40,760 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Tamag po yun, Madam Chair. 1808 01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:47,520 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: In fact, we've actually seen modelings that they've done of previous El Nino years 1809 01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:49,200 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: na kung saan po nagkaroon ng drought, 1810 01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:51,800 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: na it always comes back to all the same. 1811 01:48:51,820 --> 01:48:58,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And yung follow-up question, sa unang-unang question kanina, 1812 01:48:58,780 --> 01:49:03,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: so, aling mga programa ang kailangan dagdaga ng pondo sa ngayon 1813 01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:08,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: in order to address, either to support the 180 projects 1814 01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:17,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or to address the LGUs and or, sorry, the water districts and or LGU-run water projects 1815 01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:21,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dito sa 34% of barangays, 14,000 barangays. 1816 01:49:21,820 --> 01:49:23,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, that is a high priority. 1817 01:49:24,740 --> 01:49:26,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Administrator Salonga. 1818 01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,360 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, sa experience namin sa LUA, 1819 01:49:30,820 --> 01:49:34,760 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: ang mga dapat nagdaga ng pondo, yung water source development, 1820 01:49:35,580 --> 01:49:40,120 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: NRW recovery, saka yung network expansion po. 1821 01:49:40,420 --> 01:49:43,420 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Yung network expansion po kasi, hagip yan pareho. 1822 01:49:43,780 --> 01:49:46,420 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: You can add more water sources or new piping. 1823 01:49:47,060 --> 01:49:49,540 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Kaya, ganun po yung nakikita. 1824 01:49:49,540 --> 01:49:51,780 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: And it's the same request that we get from, 1825 01:49:51,820 --> 01:49:53,140 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: from water districts. 1826 01:49:53,460 --> 01:49:57,160 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Ang worry lang namin sa LUA, kasi nga, kami nagpapautang kami. 1827 01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:02,700 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: With El Nino, hindi naman lahat ng water districts e-qualified umutang sa amin 1828 01:50:02,700 --> 01:50:04,160 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: or mapapautang po namin. 1829 01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:08,620 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So, ang hinihingi ng water districts is a direct investment of government. 1830 01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:09,940 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So, grants po yun. 1831 01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:16,200 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: So, ang pakiusap namin, kung madadagdagan in whatever means possible sa budget, 1832 01:50:16,620 --> 01:50:18,100 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: mabigyan ng subsidy po yun. 1833 01:50:18,100 --> 01:50:20,900 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: And kami naman po, ma-identify naman namin, 1834 01:50:21,020 --> 01:50:21,780 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: kasi nasa amin yung, 1835 01:50:21,820 --> 01:50:22,700 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: lahat ng hiling nila. 1836 01:50:23,220 --> 01:50:26,840 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: And we can give it to the Senate for scrutiny, kung tama. 1837 01:50:27,780 --> 01:50:30,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Oo. So, I guess, dun sa paggamit yun ng salitang, 1838 01:50:30,900 --> 01:50:31,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kung pwedeng dagdagan, 1839 01:50:32,300 --> 01:50:34,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: this means, itong tatlong item na in-identify nyo, 1840 01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:38,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: water source development, NRW, saka network expansion, 1841 01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:40,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa current form ng budget, 1842 01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:42,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kulang pa yung items nila. 1843 01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,500 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, sa budget po ng LUA, 1844 01:50:47,460 --> 01:50:51,280 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: 29.5 million pesos lang po yung binigay sa amin. 1845 01:50:51,820 --> 01:50:53,780 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Isang water district lang po yun. 1846 01:50:54,700 --> 01:50:57,240 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Mauubos rin yung pera namin sa pagpapautang. 1847 01:50:57,380 --> 01:51:00,180 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Hindi pa namin kayang punuan lahat ng hingi nila. 1848 01:51:00,540 --> 01:51:01,620 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Especially for El Nino. 1849 01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:05,440 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: That's why we're trying to talk to the DPWH. 1850 01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:09,920 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Baka yung hindi pa nagagamit, e malagay para magamit naman ngayon. 1851 01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:12,080 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Kasi yung budget is for next year. 1852 01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:16,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yun na nga, may napag-usapan din tayo kanina, no? 1853 01:51:16,860 --> 01:51:19,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Item na sa shop ng DPWH. 1854 01:51:20,180 --> 01:51:21,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero, ah, ayun. 1855 01:51:21,820 --> 01:51:24,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tungkol sa level 1 water supply systems. 1856 01:51:25,740 --> 01:51:31,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But that's more a point of coordination rather than ilipat in some way kung ma... 1857 01:51:32,980 --> 01:51:34,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Anong tawag nito? 1858 01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:36,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mapahawak nila sa inyo. 1859 01:51:36,580 --> 01:51:38,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But that's a different matter pala. 1860 01:51:38,740 --> 01:51:44,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So you please submit that as part of the department's wish list, 1861 01:51:44,300 --> 01:51:49,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: itong tatlo, through the secretary bago yung plenary namin. 1862 01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:50,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Unless you're... 1863 01:51:50,620 --> 01:51:51,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Nakwenta nyo na. 1864 01:51:51,820 --> 01:51:54,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: How much more kailangan itong tatlong items na ito? 1865 01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:56,220 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Madam Chair, tinanggal na po namin. 1866 01:51:56,380 --> 01:51:58,580 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: It's roughly around 2 billion po. 1867 01:51:59,540 --> 01:52:01,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: For the 3 items to be? 1868 01:52:04,820 --> 01:52:07,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, submit pa rin po in writing sa aming subcommittee. 1869 01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:09,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I-break down into the 3. 1870 01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:12,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ano yung mga items niyon which would total 2 billion. 1871 01:52:12,660 --> 01:52:13,020 LWUA Acting Administrator Jose Moises F. Salonga: Yes, ma'am. 1872 01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:14,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung kakayanin ng Senate. 1873 01:52:14,260 --> 01:52:15,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, salamat po. 1874 01:52:15,440 --> 01:52:16,160 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Madam Chair. 1875 01:52:16,820 --> 01:52:17,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, yes. 1876 01:52:17,300 --> 01:52:17,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Senator Pia. 1877 01:52:17,820 --> 01:52:20,700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Madam Chair, for purpose of time management, 1878 01:52:20,900 --> 01:52:21,820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: may we know when... 1879 01:52:21,820 --> 01:52:24,360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And her honor will acknowledge the other senators 1880 01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: for purpose of asking questions 1881 01:52:26,020 --> 01:52:27,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: para we can manage din our time. 1882 01:52:27,980 --> 01:52:28,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Oh, sorry. 1883 01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:30,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Actually, this is quite freewheeling. 1884 01:52:30,860 --> 01:52:34,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So I was just going through yung follow-up questions to raise 1885 01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:35,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: after the briefing. 1886 01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But you may begin your questioning now. 1887 01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:40,920 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: For her honor to tell us what her rules are 1888 01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,720 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: if we have 10 minutes or any time. 1889 01:52:43,980 --> 01:52:45,760 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Kaya hindi ko kami nag-i-interrupt. 1890 01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:46,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, alright. 1891 01:52:46,900 --> 01:52:47,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: You may proceed po. 1892 01:52:47,860 --> 01:52:48,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I can continue later. 1893 01:52:48,940 --> 01:52:49,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you. 1894 01:52:49,420 --> 01:52:51,180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Well, Senator Alan was here earlier, 1895 01:52:51,180 --> 01:52:51,980 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: which is rare. 1896 01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:55,740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So I will not take advantage of my being a lady. 1897 01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:58,280 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you so much, Chairperson, for that. 1898 01:52:58,940 --> 01:52:59,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you, Madam Chair. 1899 01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I do appreciate your questions. 1900 01:53:04,220 --> 01:53:07,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Siguro, SEC and DNR family, 1901 01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:11,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we can really argue on facts. 1902 01:53:12,180 --> 01:53:17,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dapat hindi, but mas mabilis na ngayon yung research data. 1903 01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:19,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So what can be true today 1904 01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: might not be exactly true. 1905 01:53:21,180 --> 01:53:22,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What can be true tomorrow? 1906 01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:25,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Opinions, definitely, magdidebate tayo. 1907 01:53:25,940 --> 01:53:28,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Preference, priorities, magdidebate tayo. 1908 01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:31,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero siguro, principles, hindi tayo magdidebate. 1909 01:53:32,420 --> 01:53:34,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: For example, we talked about education kanina. 1910 01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:38,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung anong itatanim natin, yan ang aanihin natin. 1911 01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:40,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So that's a principle we won't disagree. 1912 01:53:41,440 --> 01:53:44,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So the elephant in the room in all the hearings 1913 01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:45,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is really flood control. 1914 01:53:46,220 --> 01:53:49,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And although I'm not going to talk about the investigation, 1915 01:53:49,300 --> 01:53:50,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I want to talk about the... 1916 01:53:51,180 --> 01:53:54,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the role of the DNR in solving this 1917 01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and preventing it from ever happening. 1918 01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:00,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The first is massive urbanization. 1919 01:54:01,140 --> 01:54:03,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If you look from the 1960s to now, 1920 01:54:03,380 --> 01:54:04,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so more or less 60 years, 1921 01:54:06,020 --> 01:54:07,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: umiba talaga yung ano eh, 1922 01:54:07,260 --> 01:54:09,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung dami ng tao sa rural, 1923 01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:12,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa urban. 1924 01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:14,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And ang problema, yung urban, 1925 01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:16,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang lilit ng lugak. 1926 01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:17,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya if you look at the map, 1927 01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:18,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung Metro Manila, 1928 01:54:19,100 --> 01:54:20,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with 20 million people, 1929 01:54:21,180 --> 01:54:25,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but if you add Central Luzon and Southern Luzon, 1930 01:54:26,220 --> 01:54:27,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: suddenly you might have, what, 1931 01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:29,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 30-40% of the... 1932 01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:34,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the population ng Philippines in that area. 1933 01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But iba pa rin talaga yung density ng Metro Manila. 1934 01:54:38,940 --> 01:54:40,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So lahat na ng problema, 1935 01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:42,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasama na DNR, 1936 01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:44,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: problema na pro-problemahin nyo, 1937 01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:46,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nandun pagka masyadong dense, di ba? 1938 01:54:47,340 --> 01:54:48,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Basura, human waste, 1939 01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:50,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: all kinds of waste, 1940 01:54:51,180 --> 01:54:52,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pollution, traffic. 1941 01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:54,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So the traffic also causes 1942 01:54:54,140 --> 01:54:58,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the air pollution and everything, no? 1943 01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:01,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Water, which the good chairperson 1944 01:55:01,620 --> 01:55:02,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have been discussing. 1945 01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:05,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So the problem is, 1946 01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:08,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Europe, pag sinabi mong rural, 1947 01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:11,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may tubig, may kuryente, may internet, 1948 01:55:11,940 --> 01:55:13,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may ospital, may eskwelahan. 1949 01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:15,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa atin, pag sinabi mong rural, 1950 01:55:15,660 --> 01:55:16,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: green siya, 1951 01:55:16,860 --> 01:55:17,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero 1952 01:55:17,180 --> 01:55:19,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala 1953 01:55:21,180 --> 01:55:21,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you do not have 1954 01:55:21,820 --> 01:55:22,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what you have 1955 01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:22,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in the urban 1956 01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:24,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: areas, di ba? 1957 01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:24,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Or if you 1958 01:55:24,660 --> 01:55:25,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you do have 1959 01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:25,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nice schools 1960 01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:26,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and actually 1961 01:55:26,900 --> 01:55:27,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whole day pa sila, 1962 01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:28,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero they don't have 1963 01:55:28,900 --> 01:55:30,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the computers 1964 01:55:30,220 --> 01:55:31,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or the 1965 01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:33,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: specializations 1966 01:55:33,540 --> 01:55:34,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you have in 1967 01:55:34,420 --> 01:55:35,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: highly urbanized, no? 1968 01:55:36,580 --> 01:55:36,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, 1969 01:55:38,260 --> 01:55:40,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: going to the second part, no? 1970 01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:41,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang nakita natin problema 1971 01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:42,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa 1972 01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:44,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: flood control dalawa. 1973 01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:45,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung actual design, 1974 01:55:45,900 --> 01:55:46,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung engineering 1975 01:55:46,420 --> 01:55:47,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: intervention. 1976 01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:48,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, baka 1977 01:55:48,700 --> 01:55:49,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: expertise ng 1978 01:55:49,820 --> 01:55:51,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH yung 1979 01:55:51,140 --> 01:55:51,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: engineering, 1980 01:55:52,620 --> 01:55:53,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but hindi yung 1981 01:55:53,820 --> 01:55:56,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how do I put it? 1982 01:55:56,580 --> 01:55:57,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The environmental 1983 01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:57,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: design. 1984 01:55:59,140 --> 01:55:59,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? 1985 01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:00,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meaning, for example, 1986 01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:01,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if expert sila gumawa 1987 01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:02,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng bridge 1988 01:56:02,060 --> 01:56:03,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or expert sila gumawa 1989 01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:04,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng dike 1990 01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:05,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at 1991 01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:06,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: expert sila gumawa 1992 01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:06,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng road, 1993 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:08,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that doesn't mean 1994 01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:09,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they're an expert 1995 01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:09,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in how to treat 1996 01:56:09,820 --> 01:56:10,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this lake, 1997 01:56:10,580 --> 01:56:11,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this river, 1998 01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:12,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this tributary, 1999 01:56:12,460 --> 01:56:12,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: di ba? 2000 01:56:13,300 --> 01:56:14,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, yung role 2001 01:56:14,140 --> 01:56:14,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: din ninyo, 2002 01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:17,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: maybe a simple 2003 01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:18,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: checklist 2004 01:56:18,500 --> 01:56:20,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and 2005 01:56:20,540 --> 01:56:22,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: , how do I put it? 2006 01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:23,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: We don't want 2007 01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:24,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: red tape, 2008 01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:27,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but on the other hand, 2009 01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:28,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we want the input 2010 01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:28,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng DNR 2011 01:56:28,980 --> 01:56:30,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung anong pwedeng 2012 01:56:30,340 --> 01:56:31,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gawin sa tributary 2013 01:56:31,500 --> 01:56:32,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or sa lake 2014 01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or river na yun 2015 01:56:34,020 --> 01:56:35,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: para nga hindi 2016 01:56:35,100 --> 01:56:35,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mali yung 2017 01:56:35,940 --> 01:56:37,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: intervention. 2018 01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:38,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I'm assuming 2019 01:56:38,980 --> 01:56:40,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi dadayain 2020 01:56:40,100 --> 01:56:40,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung project, no? 2021 01:56:41,260 --> 01:56:42,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Siyempre, pagdadayain 2022 01:56:42,220 --> 01:56:42,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung project, 2023 01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:43,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kahit anong ganda 2024 01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:43,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng design, 2025 01:56:44,540 --> 01:56:45,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baliwala yun, no? 2026 01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:46,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, maybe 2027 01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:47,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: input 2028 01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:48,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: from 2029 01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:49,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the DNR 2030 01:56:49,420 --> 01:56:50,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: also 2031 01:56:50,460 --> 01:56:51,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think it's time 2032 01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:51,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we have a new 2033 01:56:51,860 --> 01:56:52,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: building code, 2034 01:56:53,180 --> 01:56:53,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: di ba? 2035 01:56:54,180 --> 01:56:55,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Marami din sa 2036 01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:56,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: problema ng baha 2037 01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:57,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: building in places 2038 01:56:57,960 --> 01:56:58,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: where 2039 01:56:58,500 --> 01:56:59,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you're not supposed 2040 01:56:59,900 --> 01:57:00,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to build. 2041 01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:02,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't know 2042 01:57:02,020 --> 01:57:03,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: about the clearances 2043 01:57:03,020 --> 01:57:04,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the penalties, 2044 01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:05,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but kung kasi 2045 01:57:05,460 --> 01:57:06,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: maliit yung penalties, 2046 01:57:06,780 --> 01:57:07,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so si 2047 01:57:07,260 --> 01:57:09,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Director Matias 2048 01:57:09,060 --> 01:57:10,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: actually helped us 2049 01:57:10,780 --> 01:57:12,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: two, three years ago, 2050 01:57:12,100 --> 01:57:12,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: no? 2051 01:57:12,700 --> 01:57:13,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: There were some issues 2052 01:57:13,860 --> 01:57:14,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with some 2053 01:57:14,700 --> 01:57:15,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: boundaries, 2054 01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:16,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: et cetera, 2055 01:57:16,740 --> 01:57:17,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but he 2056 01:57:17,780 --> 01:57:21,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: told us, 2057 01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:22,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, baka gusto nyo makita 2058 01:57:22,300 --> 01:57:23,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung saan may mga 2059 01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:25,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: river at may tributary 2060 01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:25,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Taguig, 2061 01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:26,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ngayon wala na. 2062 01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:27,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And it's actually 2063 01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:29,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: helpful, no? 2064 01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:30,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And for example, 2065 01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:31,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if it's in a subdivision 2066 01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:33,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at wala pang kondo doon 2067 01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:35,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the subdivision owner 2068 01:57:35,700 --> 01:57:36,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may pera, 2069 01:57:37,020 --> 01:57:37,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: siguro, 2070 01:57:37,700 --> 01:57:38,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: madaling maghabulan, 2071 01:57:38,620 --> 01:57:38,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: eh, di ba? 2072 01:57:39,300 --> 01:57:39,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But if it's 2073 01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:41,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 20,000 people there already 2074 01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:42,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or schools, 2075 01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:43,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: et cetera, 2076 01:57:44,020 --> 01:57:45,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: napakahirap, eh. 2077 01:57:45,300 --> 01:57:45,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, baka dapat 2078 01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:46,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: balik na rin natin 2079 01:57:46,660 --> 01:57:47,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung process. 2080 01:57:47,780 --> 01:57:48,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And, kasi if you look, 2081 01:57:49,180 --> 01:57:50,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I remember when I was 2082 01:57:50,380 --> 01:57:51,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in high school, 2083 01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:52,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: my dad allowed me 2084 01:57:52,300 --> 01:57:53,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to go to Cebu. 2085 01:57:53,300 --> 01:57:53,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: My sister and I 2086 01:57:53,980 --> 01:57:54,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: had friends there. 2087 01:57:55,340 --> 01:57:56,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala talagang tao 2088 01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:56,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Mactan, eh. 2089 01:57:57,420 --> 01:57:57,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No? 2090 01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:58,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And, and, 2091 01:57:58,540 --> 01:57:59,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: even Cebu City, 2092 01:57:59,580 --> 01:58:00,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: walang traffic, di ba? 2093 01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:00,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, 2094 01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:02,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I love Cebu, 2095 01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:04,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but kung ano mistakes 2096 01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:04,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng Metro Manila, 2097 01:58:05,540 --> 01:58:06,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ginaya lang ng Cebu. 2098 01:58:07,020 --> 01:58:07,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And that's why 2099 01:58:07,780 --> 01:58:08,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I love Palawan, 2100 01:58:09,820 --> 01:58:11,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bohol, 2101 01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:12,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because they haven't 2102 01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:14,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: made the same mistakes 2103 01:58:14,140 --> 01:58:15,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that we have. 2104 01:58:15,700 --> 01:58:16,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, Davao is different 2105 01:58:16,900 --> 01:58:17,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: just because, 2106 01:58:17,780 --> 01:58:19,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Davao is three times 2107 01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:20,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bigger than Metro Manila, 2108 01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:21,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so sa land area lang 2109 01:58:21,380 --> 01:58:24,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: napakalaki, ano. 2110 01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:25,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Rizal, 2111 01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:27,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because nauna Bulacan 2112 01:58:27,060 --> 01:58:30,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na mag-develop, 2113 01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:31,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka mas may pag-asa pa 2114 01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:33,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang Rizal sa zoning 2115 01:58:33,740 --> 01:58:34,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and planning 2116 01:58:34,380 --> 01:58:35,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: rather than Bulacan, 2117 01:58:35,580 --> 01:58:37,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which is always flooded 2118 01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:37,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ngayon, no? 2119 01:58:38,580 --> 01:58:39,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Protected areas 2120 01:58:39,620 --> 01:58:40,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: as number three, 2121 01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:42,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I won't discuss that 2122 01:58:42,060 --> 01:58:43,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because the women 2123 01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:44,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in the Senate 2124 01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have done a good job 2125 01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:47,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: here, Senator Riza, 2126 01:58:47,220 --> 01:58:47,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Pio, 2127 01:58:47,780 --> 01:58:49,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Loren, 2128 01:58:49,380 --> 01:58:50,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Cynthia Villar, 2129 01:58:51,260 --> 01:58:52,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: among others, 2130 01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:53,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: among others in the past, 2131 01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:55,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: over the past 15 years, 2132 01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:57,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinutukan nila to. 2133 01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:59,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And kayo din naman, 2134 01:58:59,400 --> 01:58:59,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, 2135 01:58:59,960 --> 01:59:00,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: once in a while, 2136 01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:01,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: parang sa Bohol 2137 01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:02,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or sa Tagaytay 2138 01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung may tinayo doon, 2139 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:05,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: once in a while may issue, 2140 01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:06,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but more or less, 2141 01:59:07,060 --> 01:59:08,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think you're on that. 2142 01:59:09,580 --> 01:59:10,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Number four, 2143 01:59:11,140 --> 01:59:13,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this is our work, 2144 01:59:13,180 --> 01:59:14,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but baka you can share. 2145 01:59:15,220 --> 01:59:16,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If you look at yung NPA na ngayon 2146 01:59:16,940 --> 01:59:17,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or yung era 2147 01:59:17,620 --> 01:59:18,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dati, diba? 2148 01:59:19,220 --> 01:59:20,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pagka kasi yung city 2149 01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:22,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagkaroon ng 2150 01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:24,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: commercial industrial, 2151 01:59:25,500 --> 01:59:26,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron na siyang 2152 01:59:26,300 --> 01:59:27,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mataas na era, 2153 01:59:28,500 --> 01:59:29,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron na siyang 2154 01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:30,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: real property tax, 2155 01:59:31,060 --> 01:59:32,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may business tax pa. 2156 01:59:32,820 --> 01:59:34,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero kung forested 2157 01:59:34,100 --> 01:59:34,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or 2158 01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:36,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: agricultural, 2159 01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:37,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala. 2160 01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:39,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, 2161 01:59:39,500 --> 01:59:40,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lahat tuloy ng 2162 01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:42,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: municipalities 2163 01:59:42,180 --> 01:59:43,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at provinces 2164 01:59:43,100 --> 01:59:45,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gusto maging highly urbanized 2165 01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:45,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi 2166 01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:48,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what can you spend 2167 01:59:48,620 --> 01:59:49,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba? 2168 01:59:49,860 --> 01:59:51,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: To improve the lives 2169 01:59:51,100 --> 01:59:53,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of people there, no? 2170 01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:54,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, baka that formula 2171 01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:56,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: could change 2172 01:59:56,020 --> 01:59:57,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and baka the environment 2173 01:59:57,020 --> 01:59:58,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: department 2174 01:59:58,220 --> 02:00:00,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: could propose 2175 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:00,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that 2176 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa cabinet na dapat may incentive 2177 02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:03,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung green ka. 2178 02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:06,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung ganyan ngayon agriculture, ganito ka. 2179 02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:08,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dapat ganito yung 2180 02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:09,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: aid mo. 2181 02:00:09,900 --> 02:00:12,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Of course, I can't speak 2182 02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:14,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for our city, Taguig, but sa laki 2183 02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:15,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: let's say ng real property tax, 2184 02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:17,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung sasabihin mong 2185 02:00:17,620 --> 02:00:19,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we have to share X percent 2186 02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:22,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with our neighbors across the Laguna Lake 2187 02:00:22,240 --> 02:00:23,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: who will keep it green. 2188 02:00:24,420 --> 02:00:26,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Why? Because as they 2189 02:00:26,180 --> 02:00:27,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: cut down the trees there, 2190 02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:29,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nag-erode then into the Laguna Lake. 2191 02:00:29,560 --> 02:00:30,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Apektado din namang 2192 02:00:30,580 --> 02:00:33,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kami. And I would assume 2193 02:00:33,300 --> 02:00:35,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that's the same with whatever lake or 2194 02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:37,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: river we have all around the 2195 02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:38,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: country na pag yung isang side 2196 02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:41,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: develop, pero siya actually 2197 02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:42,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang magpopulate ng 2198 02:00:42,340 --> 02:00:45,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lake. Pero yung kabilang side na hindi 2199 02:00:45,220 --> 02:00:45,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: develop, 2200 02:00:46,900 --> 02:00:49,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he or she or the city 2201 02:00:49,140 --> 02:00:51,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gets all of the same 2202 02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:52,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: problems but not the resources. 2203 02:00:54,300 --> 02:00:55,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The last one 2204 02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:57,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is segmentation. 2205 02:00:57,360 --> 02:00:58,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May infrastructure ba kayo sa DNR? 2206 02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:00,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala. DPWH lahat yun. 2207 02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:06,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Through the DPWH. 2208 02:01:07,580 --> 02:01:08,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa Manila may ka. 2209 02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:11,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi yung 2210 02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:12,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: panahon ni 2211 02:01:12,260 --> 02:01:14,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: President Aquino, 2212 02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:17,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they disfavor dredging 2213 02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:18,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi ang tingin nga nila, 2214 02:01:18,940 --> 02:01:20,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ninanakaw lahat, which is 2215 02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:23,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which has some truth. 2216 02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:25,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But dredging per se 2217 02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:27,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is not bad. And some 2218 02:01:27,220 --> 02:01:29,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: cities bought their own dredging 2219 02:01:29,060 --> 02:01:29,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: machine. 2220 02:01:31,060 --> 02:01:32,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kinansel din yung LLDA 2221 02:01:32,780 --> 02:01:35,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 18 billion 2222 02:01:35,100 --> 02:01:36,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or something that 2223 02:01:36,340 --> 02:01:38,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: was a real dredging. 2224 02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:40,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, 2225 02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:43,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not going to discuss all of this 2226 02:01:43,220 --> 02:01:45,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: now, maybe sa plenary or maybe 2227 02:01:45,180 --> 02:01:47,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa committees, but I just wanted 2228 02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:49,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to put this on your 2229 02:01:49,240 --> 02:01:51,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doorstep na malaki din yung 2230 02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:52,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: role ng DNR in 2231 02:01:52,860 --> 02:01:54,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: preventing a flood control 2232 02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:57,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: scandal and preventing future floods. 2233 02:01:57,220 --> 02:01:59,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I agree with you, 2234 02:01:59,180 --> 02:02:01,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: even if you don't say it, yung ngipin ng 2235 02:02:01,020 --> 02:02:03,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: inyong batas. Because nga 2236 02:02:03,280 --> 02:02:04,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa laki ng pera, 2237 02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:06,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the other elephant in the room, of course, is 2238 02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:09,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: reclamations. I don't really know the 2239 02:02:09,180 --> 02:02:11,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: truth. I would assume that the studies 2240 02:02:11,100 --> 02:02:13,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Bulacan Airport and sa Manila Bay 2241 02:02:13,100 --> 02:02:15,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is true. But of course, 2242 02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:17,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: every time babahan ng undoy level 2243 02:02:17,300 --> 02:02:18,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or 2244 02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:20,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: abagat level, 2245 02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:23,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we go back to 2246 02:02:23,100 --> 02:02:25,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the question, is the 2247 02:02:25,140 --> 02:02:27,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: reclamation contributing? But the reality 2248 02:02:27,180 --> 02:02:28,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is, I mean, huwag tayo magbuluhan dito, 2249 02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:30,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: napakalaking pera. And 2250 02:02:30,900 --> 02:02:32,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: madaling i-stop pag hindi mo pa 2251 02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:34,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: start. Pero once you start 2252 02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:36,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at billion-billion na yung 2253 02:02:36,280 --> 02:02:38,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nandyan, it's not easy to 2254 02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:40,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fight. 2255 02:02:40,980 --> 02:02:42,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So maybe the 2256 02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:44,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: penalties and yung ngipin 2257 02:02:44,780 --> 02:02:47,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng environmental laws has to be so 2258 02:02:47,020 --> 02:02:48,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sharp that you won't even 2259 02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:50,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: start. So that's 2260 02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:52,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how we, when we were 2261 02:02:52,780 --> 02:02:54,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kids and we did not participate in 2262 02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:56,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that SECMICH, uso 2263 02:02:56,820 --> 02:02:58,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi yung mga motel eh, diba? 2264 02:02:58,700 --> 02:03:00,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tagig, Kapitbahay, Pasig, 2265 02:03:00,640 --> 02:03:02,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pasay, etc. So we were thinking 2266 02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:04,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how do we prevent motels 2267 02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:06,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Tagig when 2268 02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:08,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: under the law? So 2269 02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:11,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: my ordinance, pinagbawal. 2270 02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:12,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Which is bawal under the 2271 02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:14,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Constitution because you can regulate pero hindi mo 2272 02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:16,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinagbawal. But the logic was 2273 02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:18,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if it's so hassle to even 2274 02:03:18,820 --> 02:03:21,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: start, walang maglalagay. 2275 02:03:21,780 --> 02:03:22,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero kung na-start mo na 2276 02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:25,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tapos sabi mo, boss, bawal short time, 2277 02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:26,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: boss, bawal ang marumi, 2278 02:03:26,820 --> 02:03:28,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: boss, bawal dito, maglalagayan 2279 02:03:28,740 --> 02:03:30,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lang eh. So we 2280 02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:32,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: decided whether it's a casino, 2281 02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:35,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether it's a sabungan, whether it's a 2282 02:03:35,060 --> 02:03:36,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: motel. From the start, huwag na kayo magtayo 2283 02:03:36,920 --> 02:03:38,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dito, pakiusap na lang sa 2284 02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:40,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: iba. So I don't know 2285 02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:42,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how we can get there, but 2286 02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:45,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: especially in areas 2287 02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:46,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that are 2288 02:03:46,980 --> 02:03:48,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: by the lakes, tributaries, 2289 02:03:49,100 --> 02:03:50,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: rivers, or yung mga no-build 2290 02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:52,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: zones, diba? I think 2291 02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:54,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's easier said than done. 2292 02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:56,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Even for the LGUs, ang daling 2293 02:03:56,700 --> 02:03:58,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabihin sa kapitan, sa mayor na 2294 02:03:58,420 --> 02:04:00,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung mga sindikato ngayon, 2295 02:04:00,700 --> 02:04:02,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: AI na rin, high-tech na rin, 2296 02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:04,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: give them two days to 2297 02:04:04,860 --> 02:04:06,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: one week, may community 2298 02:04:06,740 --> 02:04:08,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na doon, may human rights 2299 02:04:08,900 --> 02:04:11,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lawyers na sila, may media component, 2300 02:04:11,220 --> 02:04:12,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may gina. So it's not easy. I'm not 2301 02:04:12,940 --> 02:04:14,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: saying it's easy. I'm just saying that 2302 02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:16,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka sa kasakali, whether 2303 02:04:16,700 --> 02:04:18,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's high-class subdivisions or 2304 02:04:18,700 --> 02:04:20,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: syndicated, 2305 02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:24,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: not the 2306 02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:26,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: informal settlers who dapat natin 2307 02:04:26,540 --> 02:04:28,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tulungan, but the syndicates, 2308 02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:30,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka stricter environmental 2309 02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:32,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: laws and regulations 2310 02:04:32,300 --> 02:04:33,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: could be done. 2311 02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:36,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So having said that, 2312 02:04:36,660 --> 02:04:38,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that's my point in going to 2313 02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:40,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the LLDA, and with your permission 2314 02:04:40,660 --> 02:04:41,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Madam Chair, 2315 02:04:41,820 --> 02:04:44,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: GM, magandang hapon. 2316 02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:48,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So I do support 100% 2317 02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:51,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung paghihigpit ng LLDA. 2318 02:04:51,580 --> 02:04:52,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You know, my first speech 2319 02:04:52,820 --> 02:04:54,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Congress, 98, 2320 02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:56,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bago akong congressman, 98, 2321 02:04:56,540 --> 02:04:58,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: was, I see 2322 02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:00,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the Laguna Lake, I see the 2323 02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:02,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: authority, where is the development? 2324 02:05:03,220 --> 02:05:04,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yun yung speech ko, LLDA, 2325 02:05:05,240 --> 02:05:06,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1998. Now, 2326 02:05:06,500 --> 02:05:08,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's 28 years later. 2327 02:05:10,660 --> 02:05:12,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: We still have similar 2328 02:05:12,500 --> 02:05:14,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: questions, but I do support 2329 02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:16,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: strict, reasonable, relevant 2330 02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:20,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: rules and regulations and implementation. 2331 02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:22,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ito lang ang question ko. 2332 02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:24,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Is it for all or is it 2333 02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:26,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: selective? Number 2334 02:05:26,540 --> 02:05:28,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: two, is it authentic or is it 2335 02:05:28,300 --> 02:05:30,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: political? And number 2336 02:05:30,300 --> 02:05:32,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: three, hanap solusyon ba or hanap 2337 02:05:32,500 --> 02:05:34,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: butas? So just to 2338 02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:36,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: test my theories and to give you an 2339 02:05:36,180 --> 02:05:38,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: opportunity, may I ask about 2340 02:05:38,220 --> 02:05:40,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the developments in Anguno 2341 02:05:40,380 --> 02:05:42,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Rizal? Kamusta po 2342 02:05:42,740 --> 02:05:43,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung mga 2343 02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:45,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: similar sa tagig? Yung mga linear 2344 02:05:45,980 --> 02:05:47,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: parks, yung mga 2345 02:05:47,020 --> 02:05:49,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: development doon? 2346 02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:52,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're looking behind. I think you should know that 2347 02:05:52,260 --> 02:05:54,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: by heart. Yung sa tagig, 2348 02:05:54,300 --> 02:05:54,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: alam na alam mo. 2349 02:05:56,540 --> 02:05:58,940 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala pong 2350 02:05:58,940 --> 02:06:01,100 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: political, walang 2351 02:06:01,100 --> 02:06:02,900 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: pinipili, lahat po 2352 02:06:02,900 --> 02:06:05,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: actional. Yes, that's a conclusion of 2353 02:06:05,020 --> 02:06:06,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: law. Conclusion of 2354 02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:08,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fact, yung sinasabi mo. I'm 2355 02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:11,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: testing you. I'm asking you about 2356 02:06:11,060 --> 02:06:13,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anguno Rizal. May permit 2357 02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:14,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ba yung mga projects doon? 2358 02:06:15,220 --> 02:06:17,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: According to my lawyer, 2359 02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:17,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may mga 2360 02:06:17,980 --> 02:06:19,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: CDO ngayon. 2361 02:06:20,240 --> 02:06:22,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In the same manner 2362 02:06:22,820 --> 02:06:25,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na ikaw mismo nagpapa-interview 2363 02:06:25,100 --> 02:06:26,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagdating sa tagig, 2364 02:06:26,540 --> 02:06:28,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sunod-sunod yung taon nyo dyan, etc. 2365 02:06:29,220 --> 02:06:30,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: These are the areas 2366 02:06:30,660 --> 02:06:32,320 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I'm going to say is not the buong Laguna Lake. 2367 02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:33,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It is just a few. 2368 02:06:34,500 --> 02:06:34,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And 2369 02:06:34,740 --> 02:06:38,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: their development is very similar. 2370 02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:40,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So I would appreciate 2371 02:06:40,420 --> 02:06:42,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung alam mo, alam mo. Kung hindi, then 2372 02:06:42,340 --> 02:06:44,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ask someone na alam niya. But 2373 02:06:44,360 --> 02:06:46,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dapat alam mo, kasi sa tagig, alam na alam mo. 2374 02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:48,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So sa 2375 02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:50,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anguno Rizal, ano yung mga projects 2376 02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:52,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon? Alam mo, 2377 02:06:52,660 --> 02:06:54,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi? I'm testing 2378 02:06:54,700 --> 02:06:55,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you, not LLDA. 2379 02:06:56,540 --> 02:06:58,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're not that familiar, okay. 2380 02:06:58,820 --> 02:07:00,440 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yung tagig po, kaya po 2381 02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:02,600 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: nasabing alam po, dahil 2382 02:07:02,600 --> 02:07:04,040 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: nakita ko po. Yes. 2383 02:07:04,380 --> 02:07:06,700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: At hindi ko po, hindi ko po 2384 02:07:06,700 --> 02:07:08,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinipili yung tagig lang. Yes. So bakit 2385 02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:09,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi nyo hindi nakita yung Anguno? 2386 02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:12,620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ang nakita po, yung pinipirma 2387 02:07:12,620 --> 02:07:14,480 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kung CDO, yung 2388 02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:16,200 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: inialagyan nilang... No, no, no, no, sir. 2389 02:07:16,680 --> 02:07:18,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You were interviewed... 2390 02:07:18,540 --> 02:07:20,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, you were interviewed 2391 02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:22,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and you were speaking about 2392 02:07:22,620 --> 02:07:24,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tagig. So you know tagig. 2393 02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:26,520 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: So, Mr. Senator, ako yung na-interview. 2394 02:07:26,540 --> 02:07:28,460 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Hindi lang po tagig yung sinasabing. 2395 02:07:28,500 --> 02:07:30,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. Okay. Meron po kasing... 2396 02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:32,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige po, sir. Huwag niyo nang pangunahan. 2397 02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:34,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Isa-isayin natin. So, 2398 02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anguno, hindi mo alam doon. 2399 02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:38,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, let me ask, how many years 2400 02:07:38,460 --> 02:07:40,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na yung projects sa Anguno Rizal? 2401 02:07:40,820 --> 02:07:42,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: These are good projects, ha? Mga taga-Anguno. 2402 02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:44,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala akong question. Ang gaganda 2403 02:07:44,640 --> 02:07:46,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng projects din ninyo. How many years 2404 02:07:46,620 --> 02:07:47,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na itong ginagawa doon? 2405 02:07:49,960 --> 02:07:50,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, you 2406 02:07:50,580 --> 02:07:52,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: don't know also. I can ask your people. 2407 02:07:52,780 --> 02:07:54,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ikaw tinatanong ko, do you know or do you not know? 2408 02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:55,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You do not know. Okay. 2409 02:07:56,540 --> 02:07:58,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, when did you start asking 2410 02:07:58,660 --> 02:07:59,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: them to get permits? 2411 02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:04,240 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: For what? 2412 02:08:04,980 --> 02:08:05,420 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: What? 2413 02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:06,640 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Issue. 2414 02:08:09,060 --> 02:08:10,780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Even before the... 2415 02:08:11,460 --> 02:08:14,780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yeah, even before the issue that was raised. 2416 02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:16,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, when nga, sir? 2026, 2417 02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:18,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2025, 24? 2418 02:08:18,820 --> 02:08:20,560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: When did you... Last year lang po ako dito, 2419 02:08:20,840 --> 02:08:21,720 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Mr. Senator. Sir? Sir? 2420 02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:23,460 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Last year lang po ako sa... Kaya nga, sir. 2421 02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:24,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nga, baka naman 2422 02:08:24,620 --> 02:08:26,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinapakuhan nyo na si 2423 02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:28,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: permits even before you were there, eh. 2424 02:08:28,160 --> 02:08:30,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nga, tinatanong ko, when did you start 2425 02:08:30,580 --> 02:08:32,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: asking them to get permits 2426 02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:34,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for DPWH 2427 02:08:34,020 --> 02:08:35,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: infra-projects? 2428 02:08:35,660 --> 02:08:37,820 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Prior to 2018 pa raw. Bakit? 2429 02:08:37,940 --> 02:08:38,940 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: But that's not true. 2430 02:08:40,700 --> 02:08:42,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I was speaker in 2019. 2431 02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:44,620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Pwede na po ba siyang... 2432 02:08:44,620 --> 02:08:45,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige po. 2433 02:08:46,180 --> 02:08:48,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Punta ako sa iyo, ma'am. Test ko lang muna si 2434 02:08:48,240 --> 02:08:50,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: chairman, ha? Tapos puntaan kita. 2435 02:08:50,900 --> 02:08:52,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What about Muntinlupa, sir? 2436 02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:54,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kamusta yung mga 2437 02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:55,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: projects nila doon, by the way? 2438 02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:58,580 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ah, actually, nagserve din po ako 2439 02:08:58,580 --> 02:08:58,920 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ng 2440 02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:01,560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sulat ni Mayor to stop any 2441 02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:02,240 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: reclamation. 2442 02:09:03,580 --> 02:09:04,500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Meron man sila. 2443 02:09:04,580 --> 02:09:06,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung meron man. So, hindi nyo rin alam kung 2444 02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:08,480 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: meron o wala. Ang meron po doon, yung 2445 02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:10,260 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: existing project ng 2446 02:09:10,260 --> 02:09:11,860 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Laguna Roadnet. 2447 02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:14,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ma'am, sandali lang, ha? Maglinaw 2448 02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:16,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tayo. Pinatest ko si sir kasi 2449 02:09:16,340 --> 02:09:18,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: alam na alam niya yung sa tagig at 2450 02:09:18,340 --> 02:09:19,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi daw siya namimili. 2451 02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:22,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, one year na siya dyan. So, dapat 2452 02:09:22,140 --> 02:09:24,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: alam niya din yung iba. So, huwag niyong 2453 02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:25,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: aabutan ng papel. 2454 02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:28,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I will be fair. Kapag ka meron 2455 02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:30,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mga hindi niya naman dapat, 2456 02:09:30,520 --> 02:09:32,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi naman niya alam na walang papel, 2457 02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:34,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I will ask that you provide. 2458 02:09:34,020 --> 02:09:35,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Paaminin ko naman po. So, sir, 2459 02:09:36,200 --> 02:09:38,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano po yung pinapatigil nyo sa Muntinlupa? 2460 02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:40,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron ba? Wala. Or meron 2461 02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:42,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung meron? May pinatigil po ako 2462 02:09:42,380 --> 02:09:43,880 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ngayon doon yung 2463 02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:44,360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yung 2464 02:09:44,360 --> 02:09:48,360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: mga private na nagkiklaim. 2465 02:09:48,580 --> 02:09:49,800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Okay. Tapos may ongoing 2466 02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:52,080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Laguna Road Network ng 2467 02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:54,080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: DPWH na ito yung 2468 02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:56,160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: approved ng board na isa 2469 02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:56,300 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yung mga private na nagkiklaim. 2470 02:09:56,320 --> 02:09:58,100 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: So, stop na natin yung patent reclamation. 2471 02:09:58,300 --> 02:10:00,400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Tama na tayo kung approved man yung 2472 02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:02,560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: 12 hectares, tama na tayo sa 6 hectares. 2473 02:10:02,820 --> 02:10:04,260 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Okay. Masyado na kumakain. 2474 02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:06,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, sa Anguno, may 2475 02:10:06,100 --> 02:10:08,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: CDO kayo. Sa Muntinlupa, may 2476 02:10:08,100 --> 02:10:10,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: CDO din kayo. Okay. Binyang. 2477 02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:12,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong 2478 02:10:12,160 --> 02:10:13,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: project sa Binyang? 2479 02:10:15,060 --> 02:10:16,240 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Baka ano din po ito. 2480 02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Staging area ng Laguna Road Network. 2481 02:10:18,480 --> 02:10:20,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron kami dyan. Hindi po baka. 2482 02:10:20,340 --> 02:10:21,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron po kami talaga dyan. 2483 02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:23,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Napakaraming lakeshore projects. 2484 02:10:24,280 --> 02:10:25,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. Alam nyo hindi? 2485 02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:28,240 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Hindi. Ang alam ko lang po yung Laguna 2486 02:10:28,240 --> 02:10:30,240 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Road Network. Okay. Yun lang alam nyo doon. 2487 02:10:31,140 --> 02:10:32,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ang question 2488 02:10:32,460 --> 02:10:33,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ko po sa inyo, 2489 02:10:34,200 --> 02:10:36,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa tatlo na yun, did you go there and 2490 02:10:36,200 --> 02:10:38,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: put a board na cease and desist? 2491 02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:40,700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sa ano po? 2492 02:10:40,780 --> 02:10:42,100 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Naglagay kami dyan. Sa Taytay. 2493 02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:44,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Sa Taguig, naglagay kasi. 2494 02:10:44,540 --> 02:10:45,720 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: May nakita kami. Yes. 2495 02:10:46,040 --> 02:10:48,520 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sa Kabuyo po, ako mismo nakakita. 2496 02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:49,860 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: May kaso po sa amin ninyo. 2497 02:10:50,220 --> 02:10:52,180 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sir, huwag nyo pangunahan. 2498 02:10:53,120 --> 02:10:54,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Simple lang tanong ko. 2499 02:10:55,020 --> 02:10:56,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nilagyan nyo rin ba yung 2500 02:10:56,020 --> 02:10:58,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: angguno ng board na 2501 02:10:58,020 --> 02:10:59,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi wala pa silang permit, sabi nyo may 2502 02:10:59,860 --> 02:11:01,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: CDO, nilagyan nyo rin ba yung board 2503 02:11:01,980 --> 02:11:03,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to cease and desist? 2504 02:11:03,060 --> 02:11:03,880 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ano ba nilagyan nyo doon? 2505 02:11:04,940 --> 02:11:05,400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Previous. 2506 02:11:07,240 --> 02:11:11,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, siguro naman engineer kayo. 2507 02:11:11,580 --> 02:11:13,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Abogado ko, professional tayo. 2508 02:11:14,240 --> 02:11:15,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kayo tinatanong ko eh. 2509 02:11:15,620 --> 02:11:16,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi mo ba? 2510 02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:18,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, nung naglagay kayo ng 2511 02:11:18,700 --> 02:11:20,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: cease and desist sa Taguig, 2512 02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:22,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinatawag nyo pa lahat ng media eh. 2513 02:11:22,900 --> 02:11:24,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? Nagpa-interview pa 2514 02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:25,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: para ipakita doon. 2515 02:11:26,020 --> 02:11:27,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, tinitignan ko lang kung gano'n din 2516 02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:28,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa ibang lugar. 2517 02:11:29,020 --> 02:11:29,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Simple lang naman. 2518 02:11:29,700 --> 02:11:31,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not accusing you of anything yet. 2519 02:11:31,140 --> 02:11:31,860 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: May media po. 2520 02:11:33,900 --> 02:11:36,200 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sir, hindi po ako rin patawag sa Taguig ng media. 2521 02:11:36,340 --> 02:11:39,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, wala lang sumulpot yung mga media 2522 02:11:39,420 --> 02:11:40,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: paglagay nyo doon. 2523 02:11:40,260 --> 02:11:43,500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Siguro po kasi may ombudsman nga doon eh. 2524 02:11:43,980 --> 02:11:44,600 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: May PRA. 2525 02:11:44,860 --> 02:11:46,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May bahay sila doon? 2526 02:11:46,180 --> 02:11:48,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May bahay sila doon? 2527 02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:49,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nung paglagay nyo nung ano doon? 2528 02:11:50,820 --> 02:11:52,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala pang few minutes pagkatapos. 2529 02:11:52,860 --> 02:11:53,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Huwag tayong magbuluhan dito. 2530 02:11:53,900 --> 02:11:55,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, answer my questions please. 2531 02:11:56,020 --> 02:11:58,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sangguno, naglagay ba kayo 2532 02:11:58,620 --> 02:12:03,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng board na sinasabi nyo season disease? 2533 02:12:04,740 --> 02:12:05,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi mo dati? 2534 02:12:05,580 --> 02:12:06,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes or no, sir? 2535 02:12:06,800 --> 02:12:07,520 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Hindi ko alam eh. 2536 02:12:07,620 --> 02:12:09,420 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Kaya sabi niya dati raw po naglagay sila. 2537 02:12:09,460 --> 02:12:09,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 2538 02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:11,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa Muntinlupa po, naglagay kayo? 2539 02:12:12,620 --> 02:12:13,280 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala po, wala po. 2540 02:12:13,300 --> 02:12:13,660 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala po. 2541 02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:15,380 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sabi niyan po, naglagay kayo? 2542 02:12:15,660 --> 02:12:15,880 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala. 2543 02:12:16,120 --> 02:12:16,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 2544 02:12:17,980 --> 02:12:21,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ang Laguna Road Network na banggit nyo po, 2545 02:12:22,740 --> 02:12:25,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gano'n po palaki ang lupang nire-reclaim? 2546 02:12:26,020 --> 02:12:29,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Now, ma'am, yung legal nyo ganyan. 2547 02:12:29,860 --> 02:12:32,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi I don't expect you to know all these facts. 2548 02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:33,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I want to be fair. 2549 02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:35,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anyone can help you on this. 2550 02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:38,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Paano ba sinusukat yung lupa dyan? 2551 02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:42,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In terms of square meters or cubic meters nung lupa? 2552 02:12:42,860 --> 02:12:44,520 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: In terms of lupa, square meters. 2553 02:12:44,720 --> 02:12:46,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In terms of yung sa ibabaw. 2554 02:12:46,780 --> 02:12:48,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But in terms yung dinidisplace mo yung lake? 2555 02:12:50,380 --> 02:12:50,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Volume. 2556 02:12:51,100 --> 02:12:51,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Volume. 2557 02:12:51,500 --> 02:12:55,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano ang volume ng Laguna Lake Road Network? 2558 02:12:56,020 --> 02:12:56,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Total. 2559 02:12:58,780 --> 02:13:00,320 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: An percent po yun. 2560 02:13:00,560 --> 02:13:02,640 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: An percent po yung total volume niya. 2561 02:13:03,500 --> 02:13:04,200 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sorry po. 2562 02:13:04,400 --> 02:13:05,200 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: An percent po yun. 2563 02:13:05,260 --> 02:13:06,500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Hindi po mapipredicate yun. 2564 02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:10,060 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Kasi gumagamit po sila ng staging area. 2565 02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:11,400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Katulad yung sinabi ko kanina. 2566 02:13:11,680 --> 02:13:13,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, huwag na po staging area. 2567 02:13:13,480 --> 02:13:14,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung mismong project po. 2568 02:13:15,400 --> 02:13:16,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung mismong project, 2569 02:13:17,160 --> 02:13:19,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang sabi nyo, in-approve ng board. 2570 02:13:19,900 --> 02:13:21,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung mismong project po. 2571 02:13:21,100 --> 02:13:23,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, you cannot approve, 2572 02:13:23,820 --> 02:13:26,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the board cannot approve without the GM's approval. 2573 02:13:26,020 --> 02:13:29,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And the GM, when you submit it, 2574 02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:33,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron pong requirements in your own regulation, 2575 02:13:33,620 --> 02:13:35,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: including the feasibility study, 2576 02:13:35,960 --> 02:13:37,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: including the program. 2577 02:13:38,060 --> 02:13:39,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, for example, sir, 2578 02:13:39,220 --> 02:13:41,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ilan lanes yung Laguna Lake Road Network? 2579 02:13:43,060 --> 02:13:44,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Four lanes po. 2580 02:13:44,300 --> 02:13:46,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Four lanes, one side or both sides? 2581 02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:47,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two sides. 2582 02:13:48,320 --> 02:13:49,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, eight lanes. 2583 02:13:49,020 --> 02:13:50,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two lanes, two lanes po. 2584 02:13:50,600 --> 02:13:51,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two lanes, two lanes. 2585 02:13:51,700 --> 02:13:52,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po. 2586 02:13:53,120 --> 02:13:53,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mali po. 2587 02:13:53,560 --> 02:13:55,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang sinasabing yung two lanes, two lanes po, 2588 02:13:56,020 --> 02:13:57,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung C6, yung road dikes sa Taguig. 2589 02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:00,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang LLRN po ang sinasabi ko. 2590 02:14:01,320 --> 02:14:05,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung LLRN po na ginagawa ngayon are six ba o eight lanes? 2591 02:14:06,460 --> 02:14:09,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Laguna Lake Road Network. 2592 02:14:09,720 --> 02:14:10,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po kayo pamilyar. 2593 02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:11,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nasa website nyo po yun. 2594 02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:13,340 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Okay. 2595 02:14:15,300 --> 02:14:16,800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Sa website nyo po, nakalagay, 2596 02:14:16,860 --> 02:14:18,420 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: it's a project of LLDA. 2597 02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:21,500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Actually, DPWH project po yun. 2598 02:14:21,500 --> 02:14:25,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hoy, bakit nasa website nyo na it's a project of LLDA? 2599 02:14:26,020 --> 02:14:26,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Special project. 2600 02:14:26,520 --> 02:14:27,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Koordination lang po. 2601 02:14:27,180 --> 02:14:27,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Koordination lang po. 2602 02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:29,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi yun ang nakalagay sa website nyo. 2603 02:14:29,860 --> 02:14:30,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po, siguro. 2604 02:14:31,360 --> 02:14:33,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, koordination lang. 2605 02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:33,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 2606 02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:36,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Gano po kalaki ang madidisplace 2607 02:14:36,680 --> 02:14:39,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng Laguna Lake Road Network 2608 02:14:39,720 --> 02:14:41,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa lake? 2609 02:14:43,480 --> 02:14:44,480 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I don't have a problem. 2610 02:14:45,240 --> 02:14:47,120 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yung in-approve pa po ng board ito, 2611 02:14:47,300 --> 02:14:48,180 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: inabutan ko na po ito. 2612 02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:49,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, the GM doesn't care 2613 02:14:49,620 --> 02:14:52,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: as long as i-approve ng board? 2614 02:14:52,560 --> 02:14:53,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po. 2615 02:14:53,740 --> 02:14:54,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dapat. 2616 02:14:54,820 --> 02:14:55,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bakit po hindi nyo alam? 2617 02:14:56,020 --> 02:14:57,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Inabutan ko na pong approve yun eh. 2618 02:14:57,820 --> 02:14:59,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Am I correct? 2619 02:14:59,420 --> 02:15:00,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's the biggest 2620 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:01,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: project now in the Laguna Lake? 2621 02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:04,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, yes. So, the biggest project? 2622 02:15:04,200 --> 02:15:05,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi mo alam kung ano yung project? 2623 02:15:05,740 --> 02:15:07,960 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Alam po. May mga tao naman akong technical 2624 02:15:07,960 --> 02:15:09,860 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: na nakasendunan. Sige na po. So, where's the 2625 02:15:09,860 --> 02:15:11,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: technical people? Ano po, 2626 02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:14,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gano'ng kalaki po ang i-reclaim 2627 02:15:14,000 --> 02:15:14,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng Laguna Lake? 2628 02:15:15,600 --> 02:15:18,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Habang tinatawag mo technical people mo, 2629 02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:20,180 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I cannot answer that for now. 2630 02:15:20,380 --> 02:15:22,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, you said your technical people are there. 2631 02:15:23,580 --> 02:15:24,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yeah po, pero... 2632 02:15:24,620 --> 02:15:25,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, call them. 2633 02:15:26,300 --> 02:15:28,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Where are they? They're here? 2634 02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:29,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No. Where are they? 2635 02:15:30,160 --> 02:15:31,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's office hours. 2636 02:15:31,860 --> 02:15:32,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ito, ito. 2637 02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:36,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, habang tinatawagan nyo, sir, 2638 02:15:37,300 --> 02:15:37,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is the Laguna 2639 02:15:37,980 --> 02:15:39,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lake Road Network 2640 02:15:39,860 --> 02:15:41,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a reclamation project? 2641 02:15:42,840 --> 02:15:44,120 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: No. No, it's not. 2642 02:15:44,480 --> 02:15:46,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, reclamation lang po doon 2643 02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:48,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung ginagamit nilang staging area. 2644 02:15:48,800 --> 02:15:50,740 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Okay. Which is supposed to be, pagkatapos po noon, 2645 02:15:51,200 --> 02:15:52,080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: cut an over sa 2646 02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:53,200 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: LLDA. 2647 02:15:53,560 --> 02:15:56,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Do you have a copy of your 2648 02:15:56,720 --> 02:15:58,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: board resolution 2649 02:15:58,440 --> 02:15:59,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: number? 2650 02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:05,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2006-283 2651 02:16:05,640 --> 02:16:07,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Policy Guidelines 2652 02:16:07,300 --> 02:16:09,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: on Reclamation within the Shorelands 2653 02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:10,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of Laguna Lake. Meron po kayo nyan? 2654 02:16:11,700 --> 02:16:12,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dala nyo po. 2655 02:16:15,220 --> 02:16:15,700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yan. 2656 02:16:20,660 --> 02:16:21,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Saan dito yung 2657 02:16:21,480 --> 02:16:21,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: definition? 2658 02:16:23,780 --> 02:16:24,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano yung definition? 2659 02:16:26,180 --> 02:16:26,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong 2660 02:16:26,700 --> 02:16:27,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: reclamation? 2661 02:16:27,100 --> 02:16:30,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Let there be 2662 02:16:30,480 --> 02:16:32,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: reclamation. Pakibasa, sir. 2663 02:16:33,960 --> 02:16:34,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Land reclamation. 2664 02:16:37,980 --> 02:16:39,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige, ma'am. 2665 02:16:39,160 --> 02:16:40,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You can help GM. 2666 02:16:43,740 --> 02:16:45,460 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Board Resolution 283 2667 02:16:45,460 --> 02:16:47,000 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Series of 2006 2668 02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:49,200 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Resolution Providing 2669 02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:50,340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Policy Guidelines 2670 02:16:50,340 --> 02:16:52,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ma'am, letter B lang yung definition lang nung 2671 02:16:52,560 --> 02:16:53,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: land reclamation. 2672 02:16:53,740 --> 02:16:54,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Letter B. 2673 02:16:55,320 --> 02:16:56,740 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Land reclamation is a delivery of land reclamation. 2674 02:16:57,100 --> 02:16:58,100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: It's a deliberate change 2675 02:16:58,100 --> 02:17:01,900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: or conversion 2676 02:17:01,900 --> 02:17:03,360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: of a wasteland 2677 02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:05,500 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: or bodies of water 2678 02:17:05,500 --> 02:17:07,580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: into land suitable 2679 02:17:07,580 --> 02:17:09,340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: for use of 2680 02:17:09,340 --> 02:17:11,320 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: habitation or recreation, 2681 02:17:12,340 --> 02:17:12,980 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: cultivation, 2682 02:17:13,920 --> 02:17:15,320 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: commercial or industrial, 2683 02:17:16,220 --> 02:17:17,440 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: hydroelectric power 2684 02:17:17,440 --> 02:17:19,900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: generation, flood control 2685 02:17:19,900 --> 02:17:21,340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: or similar activities 2686 02:17:21,340 --> 02:17:22,720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: by such method 2687 02:17:22,720 --> 02:17:25,340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: as irrigation, drainage, 2688 02:17:25,920 --> 02:17:26,880 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: flood control, 2689 02:17:27,100 --> 02:17:29,040 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: by altering the mineral 2690 02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:31,120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: or organic contents of the soil, 2691 02:17:31,880 --> 02:17:33,140 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: landfilling or any 2692 02:17:33,140 --> 02:17:35,260 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: activity which creates 2693 02:17:35,260 --> 02:17:37,240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: a new land where there was 2694 02:17:37,240 --> 02:17:39,300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: once wasteland or 2695 02:17:39,300 --> 02:17:41,080 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: water. It includes 2696 02:17:41,080 --> 02:17:43,400 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the draining of swamps or seasonably 2697 02:17:43,400 --> 02:17:44,940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: submerged wetlands. 2698 02:17:46,140 --> 02:17:47,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Isa-isay natin, ha? 2699 02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:49,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bago ilagay isimento yung 2700 02:17:49,720 --> 02:17:51,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kalya sa ibabaw ng 2701 02:17:51,060 --> 02:17:53,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Laguna Road Network, magla-landfill 2702 02:17:53,460 --> 02:17:54,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: muna, sir, di ba? 2703 02:17:55,500 --> 02:17:56,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama? 2704 02:17:57,100 --> 02:18:05,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po, hindi po naka-stilts yung Laguna Lake. 2705 02:18:06,920 --> 02:18:09,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po, alam nyo po kung magkano yun 2706 02:18:09,300 --> 02:18:11,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pag isi-stilts mo yung 8 lanes. 2707 02:18:11,800 --> 02:18:12,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They are landfilling. 2708 02:18:13,860 --> 02:18:15,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I-google nyo lang po ngayon, 2709 02:18:15,140 --> 02:18:15,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tignan nyo yung picture. 2710 02:18:16,700 --> 02:18:18,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Huwag na tayo magbulahan doon. 2711 02:18:18,760 --> 02:18:20,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? You will landfill first, di ba? 2712 02:18:21,740 --> 02:18:22,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You will landfill. 2713 02:18:23,380 --> 02:18:24,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa ibabaw ng landfill, 2714 02:18:24,800 --> 02:18:26,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you will put as kalye. 2715 02:18:27,100 --> 02:18:27,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama. 2716 02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:31,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So sa inyo, sir, hindi reclamation yun. 2717 02:18:31,560 --> 02:18:32,620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Merong portion po ganun. 2718 02:18:32,740 --> 02:18:34,120 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Iba pong design, elevated eh. 2719 02:18:34,240 --> 02:18:36,280 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: May elevated pong design eh. 2720 02:18:36,300 --> 02:18:38,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, hindi design, hindi ibang design. 2721 02:18:38,840 --> 02:18:40,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Iisa pinag-uusapan natin dito. 2722 02:18:40,780 --> 02:18:43,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Laguna Lake Road Network. 2723 02:18:43,560 --> 02:18:45,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nga po, may portion sa Laguna 2724 02:18:45,260 --> 02:18:47,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: D-Bay, elevated yung 2725 02:18:47,060 --> 02:18:48,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O sige, yung portion sa elevated, 2726 02:18:48,880 --> 02:18:50,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tanggalin mo na. Yung portion na hindi. 2727 02:18:51,220 --> 02:18:52,280 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ay, may reclamation yun. 2728 02:18:52,280 --> 02:18:52,820 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Hindi naman po. 2729 02:18:53,140 --> 02:18:55,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kanina, sinabi nyo, hindi reclamation yung project na to eh. 2730 02:18:56,640 --> 02:18:56,800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: O. 2731 02:18:57,100 --> 02:19:00,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nag-apply ba ang DPWH as a reclamation project? 2732 02:19:01,220 --> 02:19:03,060 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: As I mentioned earlier. 2733 02:19:03,340 --> 02:19:04,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: As a reclamation project. 2734 02:19:04,860 --> 02:19:06,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes or no lang yun, sir? 2735 02:19:06,460 --> 02:19:08,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did they apply as a reclamation project? 2736 02:19:09,460 --> 02:19:09,780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: No. 2737 02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:10,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No. Okay. 2738 02:19:11,720 --> 02:19:14,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When was the West of Manggahan 2739 02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:16,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: floodway program implemented 2740 02:19:16,080 --> 02:19:17,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in the city of Taguig 2741 02:19:17,840 --> 02:19:19,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: all the way to Taytay, Rizal? 2742 02:19:20,700 --> 02:19:22,060 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I don't... 2743 02:19:22,060 --> 02:19:23,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You can, your people can help you. 2744 02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:27,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yan ang kine-question nyo ngayon eh. 2745 02:19:27,100 --> 02:19:28,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, dapat alam nyo. 2746 02:19:29,300 --> 02:19:30,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung i-question ninyo, hindi nyo alam. 2747 02:19:31,940 --> 02:19:32,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ma'am, 2748 02:19:32,800 --> 02:19:35,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kailan yung West of Manggahan floodway program? 2749 02:19:37,120 --> 02:19:38,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kailan in-approve? Kailan sinimulan? 2750 02:19:40,780 --> 02:19:42,600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, the Manggahan floodway 2751 02:19:42,600 --> 02:19:44,820 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: is a program of 2752 02:19:44,820 --> 02:19:47,100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: then President Marcos 2753 02:19:47,100 --> 02:19:49,100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: to help the... 2754 02:19:50,080 --> 02:19:50,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, ma'am. 2755 02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:51,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When po? When? 2756 02:19:51,940 --> 02:19:52,720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sorry, sir. 2757 02:19:52,800 --> 02:19:55,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Nakailan inspection po kayo sa Taguig Lakeshore? 2758 02:19:55,240 --> 02:19:56,940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: For the... 2759 02:19:56,940 --> 02:19:57,700 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: At Taguig Lakeshore, 2760 02:19:57,860 --> 02:20:01,200 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: we conducted around 2761 02:20:01,200 --> 02:20:07,440 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: when I'm the enforcement... 2762 02:20:07,440 --> 02:20:09,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, ngayon lang. Itong year na to. 2763 02:20:09,520 --> 02:20:10,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Since the issue started. 2764 02:20:11,020 --> 02:20:11,820 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Two times, sir. 2765 02:20:11,940 --> 02:20:12,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two times? 2766 02:20:12,540 --> 02:20:12,920 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. 2767 02:20:12,960 --> 02:20:15,020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: That includes together with the ombudsman 2768 02:20:15,020 --> 02:20:15,820 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: and by yourself. 2769 02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:16,260 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. 2770 02:20:16,560 --> 02:20:18,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And hindi nyo alam that that's part of 2771 02:20:18,440 --> 02:20:20,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the West of Manggahan floodway program 2772 02:20:20,220 --> 02:20:21,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or it's an extension of it? 2773 02:20:22,360 --> 02:20:23,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, if I may... 2774 02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:24,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, sir. Ma'am, alam nyo o hindi? 2775 02:20:24,820 --> 02:20:25,520 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: No, sir. 2776 02:20:25,860 --> 02:20:26,060 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Hindi. 2777 02:20:26,060 --> 02:20:27,680 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I'm not aware that it's part of it. 2778 02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:28,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Is GM aware? 2779 02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:32,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. 2780 02:20:32,880 --> 02:20:34,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: C6 is a nickname 2781 02:20:34,380 --> 02:20:36,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that is not the real C6. 2782 02:20:36,520 --> 02:20:37,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The LLRN is the C6. 2783 02:20:38,360 --> 02:20:39,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This is a road dike 2784 02:20:39,460 --> 02:20:41,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which we call C6 2785 02:20:41,720 --> 02:20:43,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but it's not the real C6. 2786 02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:44,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, when was it implemented? 2787 02:20:46,600 --> 02:20:47,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi nyo alam. 2788 02:20:47,340 --> 02:20:48,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's okay kung hindi nyo alam. 2789 02:20:48,920 --> 02:20:49,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 2790 02:20:49,740 --> 02:20:50,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, 2791 02:20:50,320 --> 02:20:52,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we finished negotiations 2792 02:20:52,400 --> 02:20:53,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with the city 2793 02:20:53,540 --> 02:20:55,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the DPWH 2794 02:20:55,080 --> 02:20:55,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in 1990. 2795 02:20:56,060 --> 02:20:57,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2000 2796 02:20:57,040 --> 02:20:59,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with Secretary Vigilar. 2797 02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:00,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: President, 2798 02:21:01,060 --> 02:21:01,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: karamihan yan, 2799 02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:03,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: see everything, ma'am. 2800 02:21:03,240 --> 02:21:03,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama kayo, 2801 02:21:03,820 --> 02:21:05,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: President Marcos Sr., 2802 02:21:05,620 --> 02:21:06,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung planning. 2803 02:21:07,020 --> 02:21:08,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero katulad ng C5, 2804 02:21:08,200 --> 02:21:09,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: panahon na ni President Corian. 2805 02:21:10,280 --> 02:21:11,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung C6, okay. 2806 02:21:12,020 --> 02:21:12,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, 2807 02:21:13,500 --> 02:21:14,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ilan ang alignment 2808 02:21:14,440 --> 02:21:16,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng West of Manggahan project 2809 02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:18,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: para sa Laguna Lake? 2810 02:21:18,800 --> 02:21:19,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ilan yung proposed alignment? 2811 02:21:21,800 --> 02:21:23,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kayo naging investiga, 2812 02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:23,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dapat alam nyo yan. 2813 02:21:26,060 --> 02:21:32,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya kayo pinasama ng Ombudsman 2814 02:21:32,120 --> 02:21:33,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at saka ng PRA, 2815 02:21:33,800 --> 02:21:34,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA kayo, 2816 02:21:34,840 --> 02:21:35,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo may alam. 2817 02:21:36,020 --> 02:21:37,060 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yung C6 po, 2818 02:21:37,480 --> 02:21:38,540 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi ko alam yung 2819 02:21:38,540 --> 02:21:39,620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kung ilan. 2820 02:21:39,640 --> 02:21:40,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi alam. 2821 02:21:40,380 --> 02:21:41,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala kayong tao sa LLDA 2822 02:21:41,840 --> 02:21:42,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na may alam. 2823 02:21:43,260 --> 02:21:44,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ilan yung alignment, ma'am? 2824 02:21:45,740 --> 02:21:46,220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, 2825 02:21:46,380 --> 02:21:47,600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I think you're referring to 2826 02:21:47,600 --> 02:21:49,240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the East Bank and the West Bank 2827 02:21:49,240 --> 02:21:50,080 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: of that... 2828 02:21:50,080 --> 02:21:51,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, isang project doon. 2829 02:21:51,480 --> 02:21:51,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. 2830 02:21:51,800 --> 02:21:52,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's the road dike. 2831 02:21:52,640 --> 02:21:53,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Isang road dike. 2832 02:21:53,440 --> 02:21:53,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. 2833 02:21:54,300 --> 02:21:55,720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: So, based on our 2834 02:21:55,720 --> 02:21:56,680 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: technical, sir, 2835 02:21:57,240 --> 02:21:58,840 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the construction of the 2836 02:21:58,840 --> 02:22:00,100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: overall Manggahan Floodway 2837 02:22:00,100 --> 02:22:01,480 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: project began in the early 2838 02:22:01,480 --> 02:22:02,520 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: 1980s 2839 02:22:02,520 --> 02:22:04,080 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: and was completed in 1986. 2840 02:22:04,080 --> 02:22:04,380 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: No, ma'am. 2841 02:22:04,480 --> 02:22:05,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're talking about 2842 02:22:05,740 --> 02:22:07,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the Napindan Spillway, 2843 02:22:07,400 --> 02:22:07,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Manggahan. 2844 02:22:08,200 --> 02:22:09,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm talking about 2845 02:22:09,120 --> 02:22:10,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the West of Manggahan 2846 02:22:10,580 --> 02:22:13,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: flood control project 2847 02:22:13,160 --> 02:22:15,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which is the... 2848 02:22:15,260 --> 02:22:16,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yun ang problema sa Google. 2849 02:22:16,880 --> 02:22:17,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 2850 02:22:17,260 --> 02:22:18,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, follow, sir. 2851 02:22:18,500 --> 02:22:19,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ma'am, 2852 02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:21,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: parang we have limited time. 2853 02:22:21,240 --> 02:22:21,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, sir. 2854 02:22:21,880 --> 02:22:22,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ilan yung alignment? 2855 02:22:22,620 --> 02:22:28,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: There are three alignments. 2856 02:22:28,720 --> 02:22:29,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: One is inland, 2857 02:22:30,480 --> 02:22:31,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: one is in the water, 2858 02:22:32,180 --> 02:22:33,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and one is in between. 2859 02:22:33,720 --> 02:22:36,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano yung pinili ng DPWH at LLDA? 2860 02:22:39,800 --> 02:22:41,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam nyo, hindi nyo alam. 2861 02:22:41,720 --> 02:22:41,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 2862 02:22:42,400 --> 02:22:43,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang pinili yung gitna. 2863 02:22:44,920 --> 02:22:46,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ilan hektarya 2864 02:22:46,740 --> 02:22:49,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang na-expose sa labas ng dike? 2865 02:22:50,540 --> 02:22:51,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because of that. 2866 02:22:52,040 --> 02:22:52,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 2867 02:22:52,620 --> 02:22:57,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam nyo, hindi. 2868 02:22:58,160 --> 02:22:58,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Let's save time. 2869 02:22:58,920 --> 02:22:59,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi nyo alam. 2870 02:22:59,820 --> 02:23:00,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi rin alam 2871 02:23:00,360 --> 02:23:01,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ni Senator Ping Lakson. 2872 02:23:02,360 --> 02:23:03,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi rin alam 2873 02:23:03,100 --> 02:23:03,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng mga kasama nyo 2874 02:23:03,980 --> 02:23:04,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nag-iimbestiga. 2875 02:23:05,260 --> 02:23:06,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya akala nyo 2876 02:23:06,080 --> 02:23:07,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: reclaimed yung lupa. 2877 02:23:07,600 --> 02:23:10,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: There was 1,300 hectares 2878 02:23:10,160 --> 02:23:11,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: outside the dike. 2879 02:23:12,440 --> 02:23:12,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Question. 2880 02:23:14,600 --> 02:23:15,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Outside the dike, 2881 02:23:15,620 --> 02:23:16,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1,300 hectares. 2882 02:23:17,320 --> 02:23:18,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano ang sinabi ng NEDA 2883 02:23:18,880 --> 02:23:22,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: regarding the 1,300 hectares 2884 02:23:22,100 --> 02:23:22,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: outside the dike? 2885 02:23:22,620 --> 02:23:25,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You have to get approval sa NEDA 2886 02:23:25,860 --> 02:23:27,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pag may mga reclamations. 2887 02:23:27,220 --> 02:23:28,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano sinabi ng NEDA? 2888 02:23:28,320 --> 02:23:28,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron? 2889 02:23:28,860 --> 02:23:29,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam nyo, hindi. 2890 02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:31,760 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sorry, sir. 2891 02:23:31,880 --> 02:23:32,620 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: We haven't... 2892 02:23:34,100 --> 02:23:35,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, because none of you 2893 02:23:35,340 --> 02:23:36,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: cared to ask. 2894 02:23:37,400 --> 02:23:38,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: None of you cared to ask. 2895 02:23:38,880 --> 02:23:39,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You just went on media. 2896 02:23:40,720 --> 02:23:41,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You just did what you want. 2897 02:23:43,780 --> 02:23:45,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: None of you asked. 2898 02:23:45,700 --> 02:23:46,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang sinabi ng NEDA, 2899 02:23:47,360 --> 02:23:49,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung 1,300 hectares na yan 2900 02:23:49,260 --> 02:23:51,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ay in danger na mag-erode 2901 02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:52,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: into the water. 2902 02:23:52,620 --> 02:23:54,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because nasa labas ng dike. 2903 02:23:55,620 --> 02:23:56,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And DPWH 2904 02:23:56,780 --> 02:23:58,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: promised a polder dike 2905 02:23:58,620 --> 02:23:59,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that they never did. 2906 02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:00,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Question. 2907 02:24:01,640 --> 02:24:02,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Are you familiar with 2908 02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:03,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bay Breeze subdivision? 2909 02:24:04,760 --> 02:24:05,420 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. 2910 02:24:05,560 --> 02:24:05,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 2911 02:24:06,280 --> 02:24:08,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When was that open? 2912 02:24:09,200 --> 02:24:11,100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, based on our records, 2913 02:24:11,300 --> 02:24:11,800 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the Bay Breeze, 2914 02:24:12,580 --> 02:24:13,560 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: if I may, 2915 02:24:14,140 --> 02:24:15,220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the law of the LLDA 2916 02:24:15,220 --> 02:24:16,320 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: defining the lake 2917 02:24:16,320 --> 02:24:19,860 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: is passed on 1975. 2918 02:24:19,860 --> 02:24:22,580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: It provides for the definition, 2919 02:24:22,620 --> 02:24:23,840 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the definition of Laguna Lake. 2920 02:24:24,040 --> 02:24:26,240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: That's why we have this elevation 2921 02:24:26,240 --> 02:24:28,000 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: below 12.50 meters. 2922 02:24:28,020 --> 02:24:28,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, ma'am. 2923 02:24:28,940 --> 02:24:30,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1966 tapos 1975. 2924 02:24:31,180 --> 02:24:32,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May RA yan before that. 2925 02:24:32,300 --> 02:24:32,940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, po, sir. 2926 02:24:33,120 --> 02:24:34,520 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: So, meaning, sir, 2927 02:24:34,680 --> 02:24:36,160 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: prior to that 1975, 2928 02:24:36,640 --> 02:24:38,360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: when there are no myths and bounds yet, 2929 02:24:38,840 --> 02:24:40,320 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: meron pong mga nakapagpatay it 2930 02:24:40,320 --> 02:24:40,880 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: legally. 2931 02:24:41,140 --> 02:24:41,360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes. 2932 02:24:42,980 --> 02:24:44,940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: So, ang nangyari po dito, sir, 2933 02:24:45,640 --> 02:24:46,720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: noong 1975, 2934 02:24:47,380 --> 02:24:49,220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: doon na po nakita ni LLDA 2935 02:24:49,220 --> 02:24:51,300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: itong extent nga po na 2936 02:24:51,300 --> 02:24:51,620 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: na... 2937 02:24:51,620 --> 02:24:52,380 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: na... 2938 02:24:52,380 --> 02:24:54,180 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: na uubos po yung lake bed. 2939 02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:56,020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Because under our charter, 2940 02:24:56,160 --> 02:24:57,140 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Section 41, 2941 02:24:58,000 --> 02:25:00,220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yung pong Laguna Lake 2942 02:25:00,220 --> 02:25:02,180 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: ay may peculiar characteristic 2943 02:25:02,180 --> 02:25:04,100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: na pag summertime po, 2944 02:25:04,780 --> 02:25:05,540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: nagre-receive, 2945 02:25:05,680 --> 02:25:06,360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: o sa Tagalog, 2946 02:25:06,500 --> 02:25:07,720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: kumakati ang tubig, 2947 02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:09,700 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: so nakikita po yung land park. 2948 02:25:10,500 --> 02:25:11,940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Then, pagka po yan ay tag-ulan, 2949 02:25:12,140 --> 02:25:12,480 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: submerged. 2950 02:25:12,740 --> 02:25:13,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're talking about 2951 02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:15,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the lupang-arienda, 2952 02:25:15,540 --> 02:25:16,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which I will ask you later. 2953 02:25:16,860 --> 02:25:16,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. 2954 02:25:16,960 --> 02:25:18,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're not talking about 2955 02:25:18,120 --> 02:25:20,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the 1,300 hectares in Taguig 2956 02:25:20,840 --> 02:25:21,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: where I grew up. 2957 02:25:21,900 --> 02:25:22,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, 2958 02:25:22,380 --> 02:25:23,500 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I'm just saying... 2959 02:25:23,500 --> 02:25:24,400 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, yes. 2960 02:25:24,460 --> 02:25:24,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, 2961 02:25:25,840 --> 02:25:26,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to your point, 2962 02:25:26,560 --> 02:25:27,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay, tama. 2963 02:25:27,980 --> 02:25:30,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Under the 1935 Constitution, 2964 02:25:30,780 --> 02:25:31,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can you take land 2965 02:25:31,620 --> 02:25:32,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: without just compensation? 2966 02:25:33,260 --> 02:25:33,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, sir. 2967 02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:35,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Under the 1973 Constitution, 2968 02:25:35,820 --> 02:25:36,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can you? 2969 02:25:36,420 --> 02:25:37,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It also requires 2970 02:25:37,500 --> 02:25:38,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for just compensation. 2971 02:25:38,440 --> 02:25:39,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Under the 1987 Constitution? 2972 02:25:40,160 --> 02:25:40,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. 2973 02:25:40,640 --> 02:25:40,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 2974 02:25:41,300 --> 02:25:41,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, 2975 02:25:42,200 --> 02:25:44,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if ownership for land 2976 02:25:44,700 --> 02:25:47,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: even below 12.5 elevation 2977 02:25:47,940 --> 02:25:49,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can be proved in court, 2978 02:25:52,380 --> 02:25:53,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can the LLDA 2979 02:25:53,040 --> 02:25:53,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: confiscate that 2980 02:25:53,980 --> 02:25:54,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: without paying? 2981 02:25:55,220 --> 02:25:55,840 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: No, sir. 2982 02:25:56,000 --> 02:25:57,360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: As a matter of policy, 2983 02:25:57,620 --> 02:25:58,600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: we even respect 2984 02:25:58,600 --> 02:25:59,300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the existence 2985 02:25:59,300 --> 02:26:00,580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: of that valid titles. 2986 02:26:01,060 --> 02:26:01,500 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: However, 2987 02:26:01,680 --> 02:26:02,900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: since they are located 2988 02:26:02,900 --> 02:26:03,900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: in a very delicate 2989 02:26:03,900 --> 02:26:05,480 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: portion of the lake, 2990 02:26:05,980 --> 02:26:06,580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: they are still 2991 02:26:06,580 --> 02:26:07,800 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: required to secure 2992 02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:09,040 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the LLDA clearance 2993 02:26:09,040 --> 02:26:09,440 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: or just... 2994 02:26:09,440 --> 02:26:10,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No question about that. 2995 02:26:10,680 --> 02:26:11,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No question about that. 2996 02:26:12,320 --> 02:26:13,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No question. 2997 02:26:14,240 --> 02:26:14,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's why 2998 02:26:14,680 --> 02:26:15,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: binasa ko to 2999 02:26:15,420 --> 02:26:15,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because 3000 02:26:15,940 --> 02:26:17,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: iba yung 3001 02:26:17,200 --> 02:26:19,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano kaibahan 3002 02:26:19,000 --> 02:26:20,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pag magtatambak 3003 02:26:20,420 --> 02:26:20,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng lupa 3004 02:26:20,920 --> 02:26:22,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at magde-develop lang. 3005 02:26:22,380 --> 02:26:23,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa titled lang. 3006 02:26:24,200 --> 02:26:25,500 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: For the titled areas, 3007 02:26:25,760 --> 02:26:26,460 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: they are required 3008 02:26:26,460 --> 02:26:27,100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: to secure 3009 02:26:27,100 --> 02:26:28,400 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the shoreland development 3010 02:26:28,400 --> 02:26:28,820 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: clearance. 3011 02:26:29,000 --> 02:26:30,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, what's the difference 3012 02:26:30,060 --> 02:26:31,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: between may may tatayo pa lang 3013 02:26:31,780 --> 02:26:33,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the difference 3014 02:26:33,140 --> 02:26:33,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that mag... 3015 02:26:33,980 --> 02:26:34,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mag... 3016 02:26:34,440 --> 02:26:36,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: magla-landfill ka? 3017 02:26:36,440 --> 02:26:37,520 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, for the 3018 02:26:37,520 --> 02:26:39,720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: vertical development, 3019 02:26:40,060 --> 02:26:40,860 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: it will require 3020 02:26:40,860 --> 02:26:42,220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: an LLDA clearance. 3021 02:26:42,420 --> 02:26:42,980 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: It's different 3022 02:26:42,980 --> 02:26:43,820 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: from the shoreland 3023 02:26:43,820 --> 02:26:45,180 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: development clearance. 3024 02:26:45,840 --> 02:26:47,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, the difference 3025 02:26:47,240 --> 02:26:49,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is the reclaimed 3026 02:26:49,320 --> 02:26:51,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: shoreland area 3027 02:26:51,320 --> 02:26:52,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: clearance 3028 02:26:52,020 --> 02:26:53,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the 3029 02:26:53,100 --> 02:26:54,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: clearance to develop 3030 02:26:54,660 --> 02:26:55,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: shoreland. 3031 02:26:56,000 --> 02:26:56,380 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. 3032 02:26:56,400 --> 02:26:58,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, kahit private land yun, 3033 02:26:58,280 --> 02:26:58,760 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. 3034 02:26:58,900 --> 02:26:59,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pag for one reason 3035 02:26:59,740 --> 02:27:00,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or the other, 3036 02:27:00,340 --> 02:27:00,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mababa, 3037 02:27:00,980 --> 02:27:01,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero private land, 3038 02:27:02,100 --> 02:27:03,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they can still protect it. 3039 02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:04,440 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. 3040 02:27:05,240 --> 02:27:05,800 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: But... 3041 02:27:05,800 --> 02:27:06,780 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Subject to LLDA 3042 02:27:06,780 --> 02:27:07,120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: regulation. 3043 02:27:07,140 --> 02:27:08,600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Subject to LLDA 3044 02:27:08,600 --> 02:27:09,180 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: clearance. 3045 02:27:09,580 --> 02:27:10,020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. 3046 02:27:10,540 --> 02:27:12,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Let's wait for your... 3047 02:27:12,960 --> 02:27:13,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: GM. 3048 02:27:13,480 --> 02:27:14,480 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I think he had to take 3049 02:27:14,480 --> 02:27:15,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a break. 3050 02:27:15,820 --> 02:27:16,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, habang 3051 02:27:16,420 --> 02:27:17,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we're waiting for GM, 3052 02:27:18,700 --> 02:27:19,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron po kayong 3053 02:27:19,420 --> 02:27:20,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ma'am master plan daw? 3054 02:27:21,220 --> 02:27:21,940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. 3055 02:27:22,020 --> 02:27:23,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When will it come out? 3056 02:27:23,740 --> 02:27:24,960 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: It will be subjected 3057 02:27:24,960 --> 02:27:26,780 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: to the board approval na pa. 3058 02:27:27,000 --> 02:27:27,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige. 3059 02:27:27,460 --> 02:27:28,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm excited about that 3060 02:27:28,760 --> 02:27:30,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but let me ask lang. 3061 02:27:30,600 --> 02:27:31,220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: By December. 3062 02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:32,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How many marginalized 3063 02:27:32,380 --> 02:27:33,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fishermen are still 3064 02:27:33,980 --> 02:27:35,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and this is an interest also 3065 02:27:35,720 --> 02:27:37,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ever since of our 3066 02:27:37,220 --> 02:27:38,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: chairperson. 3067 02:27:38,540 --> 02:27:39,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Marginalized fishermen natin, 3068 02:27:40,460 --> 02:27:40,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ilan pa 3069 02:27:40,960 --> 02:27:41,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang nasa Laguna Lake? 3070 02:27:43,980 --> 02:27:45,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May data ba tayo? 3071 02:27:45,740 --> 02:27:46,460 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Fishermen? 3072 02:27:47,460 --> 02:27:49,660 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, I have no... 3073 02:27:49,660 --> 02:27:50,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less lang. 3074 02:27:50,200 --> 02:27:50,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less. 3075 02:27:50,660 --> 02:27:51,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Population. 3076 02:27:51,200 --> 02:27:51,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less. 3077 02:27:52,020 --> 02:27:53,020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I don't know. 3078 02:27:53,340 --> 02:27:53,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Behind me. 3079 02:27:54,400 --> 02:27:54,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less. 3080 02:27:55,080 --> 02:27:56,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam ko kasi nung pandemic 3081 02:27:56,400 --> 02:27:57,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon nagbibigay ng ayuda 3082 02:27:57,660 --> 02:27:59,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon sa area 3083 02:27:59,080 --> 02:27:59,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na in-inspect 3084 02:27:59,820 --> 02:28:00,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na in-inspect nyo eh. 3085 02:28:03,120 --> 02:28:04,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less 10,000. 3086 02:28:04,520 --> 02:28:04,900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. 3087 02:28:05,160 --> 02:28:05,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama? 3088 02:28:06,240 --> 02:28:06,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 3089 02:28:07,040 --> 02:28:07,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na-consulta ba 3090 02:28:07,780 --> 02:28:08,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung mga asosasyon nila 3091 02:28:08,860 --> 02:28:10,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa inyong master plan? 3092 02:28:10,480 --> 02:28:11,020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. 3093 02:28:11,380 --> 02:28:12,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na-consulta sila? 3094 02:28:12,040 --> 02:28:12,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. 3095 02:28:12,400 --> 02:28:13,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, if I ask them, 3096 02:28:13,360 --> 02:28:14,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they'll say na-consulta sila? 3097 02:28:14,400 --> 02:28:14,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. 3098 02:28:14,800 --> 02:28:15,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 3099 02:28:15,500 --> 02:28:16,360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, we have these 3100 02:28:16,360 --> 02:28:18,240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: representations of the pharmacies 3101 02:28:18,240 --> 02:28:19,520 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: representing... 3102 02:28:19,520 --> 02:28:19,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's good. 3103 02:28:19,700 --> 02:28:20,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's good. 3104 02:28:20,460 --> 02:28:21,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How about the LGUs? 3105 02:28:22,020 --> 02:28:25,000 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes, sir. 3106 02:28:25,340 --> 02:28:25,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Except, 3107 02:28:26,840 --> 02:28:28,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang Taguig hindi nyo kinonsulta. 3108 02:28:29,020 --> 02:28:30,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eight kilometers 3109 02:28:30,180 --> 02:28:31,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang amin lakeshore area. 3110 02:28:32,620 --> 02:28:33,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I asked if you had 3111 02:28:33,520 --> 02:28:34,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: consultation with them 3112 02:28:34,620 --> 02:28:35,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: on the... 3113 02:28:36,760 --> 02:28:37,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, you consulted 3114 02:28:37,600 --> 02:28:38,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: all LGUs 3115 02:28:38,400 --> 02:28:39,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: except Taguig? 3116 02:28:39,340 --> 02:28:39,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama ba yan? 3117 02:28:41,040 --> 02:28:42,300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: It is my understanding 3118 02:28:42,300 --> 02:28:43,680 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: that since this will affect 3119 02:28:43,680 --> 02:28:44,460 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: all the LGUs, 3120 02:28:44,580 --> 02:28:45,600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: all are consulted, sir. 3121 02:28:46,520 --> 02:28:47,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Well, bakit hindi na-consult 3122 02:28:47,940 --> 02:28:48,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang city of Taguig? 3123 02:28:49,400 --> 02:28:50,740 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Through the RDC, sir. 3124 02:28:50,840 --> 02:28:51,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: RDCs. 3125 02:28:52,020 --> 02:28:53,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: RDCs ng Metro Manila 3126 02:28:53,640 --> 02:28:54,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is MMDA. 3127 02:28:56,340 --> 02:28:57,280 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Saig ka lang, sir. 3128 02:28:57,300 --> 02:28:57,600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Wale po. 3129 02:28:58,200 --> 02:29:00,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang Taguig is in Metro Manila, ma'am. 3130 02:29:01,020 --> 02:29:02,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala po kami sa Kalamba. 3131 02:29:03,340 --> 02:29:03,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No. 3132 02:29:03,620 --> 02:29:05,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, if you consulted 3133 02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:05,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: through the RDC, 3134 02:29:06,340 --> 02:29:07,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you're consulting Rizal 3135 02:29:07,540 --> 02:29:08,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and Laguna, 3136 02:29:08,100 --> 02:29:08,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which is very good. 3137 02:29:09,380 --> 02:29:11,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But there are two cities 3138 02:29:11,460 --> 02:29:12,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Metro Manila 3139 02:29:12,280 --> 02:29:14,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that have a long lakeshore, 3140 02:29:14,280 --> 02:29:15,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which is Buntinlupa 3141 02:29:15,160 --> 02:29:15,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and Taguig. 3142 02:29:17,140 --> 02:29:18,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi nyo kinonsulta. 3143 02:29:18,440 --> 02:29:23,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Consultation with Taguig 3144 02:29:23,160 --> 02:29:24,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: regarding the master plan? 3145 02:29:26,320 --> 02:29:27,220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: It's a GM. 3146 02:29:28,040 --> 02:29:29,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bakit hindi kinonsulta 3147 02:29:29,300 --> 02:29:30,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung Metro Manila LGUs 3148 02:29:30,580 --> 02:29:31,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa inyong master plan? 3149 02:29:32,860 --> 02:29:34,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How can you have a master plan 3150 02:29:34,220 --> 02:29:36,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when the biggest stakeholders 3151 02:29:36,280 --> 02:29:37,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: are also not consulted? 3152 02:29:39,700 --> 02:29:41,060 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, we'll just check. 3153 02:29:41,320 --> 02:29:42,660 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: But, of course, sir, 3154 02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:43,200 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: definitely, 3155 02:29:43,760 --> 02:29:45,440 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: all the affected LGUs 3156 02:29:45,440 --> 02:29:47,260 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: should be consulted, sir. 3157 02:29:47,260 --> 02:29:48,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If you had consulted, 3158 02:29:48,440 --> 02:29:49,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: consultation with Taguig, 3159 02:29:49,740 --> 02:29:50,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then you would be familiar 3160 02:29:50,760 --> 02:29:53,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with the 8 kilometers development 3161 02:29:53,160 --> 02:29:54,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that is happening there. 3162 02:29:54,880 --> 02:29:55,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And you're not. 3163 02:29:56,700 --> 02:29:57,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sir, 3164 02:29:58,240 --> 02:29:59,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano yung tinap niyong projects? 3165 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:01,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano yung 3166 02:30:01,280 --> 02:30:02,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: spin-up ng PRA 3167 02:30:02,220 --> 02:30:02,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for example 3168 02:30:02,940 --> 02:30:04,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na projects 3169 02:30:04,220 --> 02:30:05,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: along the Laguna Lake 3170 02:30:05,840 --> 02:30:07,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: about 3171 02:30:07,760 --> 02:30:13,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: let me ask you 3172 02:30:13,180 --> 02:30:14,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a different question sir 3173 02:30:14,220 --> 02:30:16,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa buong Laguna Lake 3174 02:30:16,680 --> 02:30:18,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: anong pinakamaganda 3175 02:30:18,640 --> 02:30:19,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang shore 3176 02:30:19,060 --> 02:30:19,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang lake shore 3177 02:30:19,840 --> 02:30:22,840 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ay nakita ko po 3178 02:30:22,840 --> 02:30:23,380 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tagig eh 3179 02:30:23,380 --> 02:30:24,300 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: be honest po 3180 02:30:24,300 --> 02:30:25,220 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: o tagig 3181 02:30:25,220 --> 02:30:25,960 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kaya po nung 3182 02:30:25,960 --> 02:30:26,520 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: nag-meeting ako 3183 02:30:26,520 --> 02:30:27,620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sa mayor ng tagig 3184 02:30:27,620 --> 02:30:29,080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: humingi rin po kami 3185 02:30:29,080 --> 02:30:29,680 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: nung copy nung 3186 02:30:29,680 --> 02:30:30,940 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: master plan nila 3187 02:30:30,940 --> 02:30:32,280 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kasi po dapat 3188 02:30:32,280 --> 02:30:33,860 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: standard yung atin 3189 02:30:33,860 --> 02:30:34,800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sa Laguna 3190 02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:37,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I thank you for that 3191 02:30:37,080 --> 02:30:37,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: both you 3192 02:30:37,780 --> 02:30:39,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and Secretary Dizon said 3193 02:30:39,360 --> 02:30:40,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang pinakamagandang 3194 02:30:40,980 --> 02:30:41,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lake shore 3195 02:30:41,460 --> 02:30:42,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ay sa tagig 3196 02:30:42,180 --> 02:30:43,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba 3197 02:30:43,260 --> 02:30:44,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can you prep the video 3198 02:30:44,880 --> 02:30:45,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ma'am I just 3199 02:30:45,600 --> 02:30:46,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's just a one minute video 3200 02:30:46,700 --> 02:30:47,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinakita naman po sa amin eh 3201 02:30:47,900 --> 02:30:49,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can you show the one minute video 3202 02:30:49,660 --> 02:30:50,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so 3203 02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:51,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang tanong ko sir 3204 02:30:51,500 --> 02:30:53,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung 3205 02:30:53,200 --> 02:30:54,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang tagig 3206 02:30:54,160 --> 02:30:55,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang pinakamaganda 3207 02:30:55,020 --> 02:30:55,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang lake shore 3208 02:30:55,720 --> 02:30:57,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit yung tagig 3209 02:30:57,080 --> 02:30:57,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lang ang inimbestigahan 3210 02:30:57,960 --> 02:31:00,300 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I'm not 3211 02:31:00,300 --> 02:31:02,500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I'm not part of that investigation 3212 02:31:02,500 --> 02:31:03,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but 3213 02:31:03,720 --> 02:31:04,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: joint kayo 3214 02:31:04,500 --> 02:31:05,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yeah because of the 3215 02:31:05,880 --> 02:31:06,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ombudsman 3216 02:31:06,400 --> 02:31:06,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay 3217 02:31:06,680 --> 02:31:08,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they invited me 3218 02:31:08,040 --> 02:31:08,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: question po 3219 02:31:08,920 --> 02:31:10,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how many times 3220 02:31:10,440 --> 02:31:11,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have you met with 3221 02:31:11,140 --> 02:31:11,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Lacson 3222 02:31:11,940 --> 02:31:13,080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: not yet 3223 02:31:13,080 --> 02:31:14,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: your people 3224 02:31:14,280 --> 02:31:15,940 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I don't 3225 02:31:15,940 --> 02:31:17,100 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: not yet 3226 02:31:17,100 --> 02:31:17,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: your lawyers 3227 02:31:17,880 --> 02:31:18,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and their lawyers 3228 02:31:18,820 --> 02:31:19,720 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: na 3229 02:31:19,720 --> 02:31:21,400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: matawag po sila sa akin 3230 02:31:21,400 --> 02:31:21,800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: na 3231 02:31:21,800 --> 02:31:22,760 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: na-invite ako 3232 02:31:22,760 --> 02:31:23,980 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: baka pwede 3233 02:31:23,980 --> 02:31:24,760 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wag na akong pumunta 3234 02:31:24,760 --> 02:31:25,320 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kay Senator 3235 02:31:25,320 --> 02:31:26,220 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tawit na lang 3236 02:31:26,220 --> 02:31:27,800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yun lang po ang ano ko 3237 02:31:27,800 --> 02:31:27,940 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: okay 3238 02:31:27,960 --> 02:31:29,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'll take your word for it 3239 02:31:29,960 --> 02:31:30,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay 3240 02:31:30,220 --> 02:31:31,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so let's 3241 02:31:31,620 --> 02:31:32,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: before we show the 3242 02:31:32,800 --> 02:31:33,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the video 3243 02:31:33,520 --> 02:31:35,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you had a meeting 3244 02:31:35,300 --> 02:31:36,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with the tagig 3245 02:31:36,160 --> 02:31:37,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: city 3246 02:31:37,420 --> 02:31:38,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yes 3247 02:31:38,060 --> 02:31:39,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and I almost called 3248 02:31:39,900 --> 02:31:40,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the secretary 3249 02:31:40,460 --> 02:31:41,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to report that 3250 02:31:41,540 --> 02:31:42,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and 3251 02:31:42,800 --> 02:31:44,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have a copy of the minutes 3252 02:31:44,300 --> 02:31:46,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang sinabi yung 3253 02:31:46,380 --> 02:31:46,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: MOA 3254 02:31:46,780 --> 02:31:48,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinakita sa inyo 3255 02:31:48,220 --> 02:31:48,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi nyo 3256 02:31:48,780 --> 02:31:49,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang ganda nito 3257 02:31:49,560 --> 02:31:50,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama po ba 3258 02:31:50,400 --> 02:31:53,660 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi po siguro ganon 3259 02:31:53,660 --> 02:31:54,140 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kasi hindi 3260 02:31:54,140 --> 02:31:54,900 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I have not 3261 02:31:54,900 --> 02:31:56,260 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I have not read the MOA 3262 02:31:56,260 --> 02:31:57,020 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: eto 3263 02:31:57,020 --> 02:31:57,500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: eto po 3264 02:31:57,500 --> 02:31:58,500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wala po po akong 3265 02:31:58,500 --> 02:31:59,900 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: MOA na nababasa 3266 02:31:59,900 --> 02:32:01,560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: maganda kung may MOA 3267 02:32:01,560 --> 02:32:02,340 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ako po siguro 3268 02:32:02,340 --> 02:32:03,200 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: eto po 3269 02:32:03,200 --> 02:32:04,600 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi ko po nababasa yun eh 3270 02:32:04,600 --> 02:32:05,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: very good intent 3271 02:32:05,740 --> 02:32:06,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang MOA 3272 02:32:06,340 --> 02:32:07,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the objectives 3273 02:32:07,840 --> 02:32:09,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ay itatama lang natin 3274 02:32:09,520 --> 02:32:10,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung ano ang kulang 3275 02:32:10,760 --> 02:32:11,360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yun 3276 02:32:11,360 --> 02:32:12,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung bago pa lang 3277 02:32:12,460 --> 02:32:13,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ako sa panahon 3278 02:32:13,200 --> 02:32:13,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: et cetera 3279 02:32:13,660 --> 02:32:14,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dotilya 3280 02:32:14,360 --> 02:32:15,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung sinasabi 3281 02:32:15,140 --> 02:32:15,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ganyan ganyan 3282 02:32:15,720 --> 02:32:16,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay 3283 02:32:16,020 --> 02:32:17,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: squatter relocation 3284 02:32:17,520 --> 02:32:18,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: septic tat 3285 02:32:18,160 --> 02:32:18,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: et cetera 3286 02:32:18,620 --> 02:32:19,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ganyan ganyan 3287 02:32:19,440 --> 02:32:21,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: maganda po ang intention 3288 02:32:21,520 --> 02:32:22,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: basta correct lang po 3289 02:32:22,660 --> 02:32:23,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: muna natin 3290 02:32:23,360 --> 02:32:24,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung ano ang mga kulang 3291 02:32:24,860 --> 02:32:25,620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tama 3292 02:32:25,620 --> 02:32:26,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama 3293 02:32:26,080 --> 02:32:27,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama yun na sinabi niya 3294 02:32:27,200 --> 02:32:27,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay 3295 02:32:27,500 --> 02:32:29,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: towards the end of the meeting 3296 02:32:29,140 --> 02:32:30,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinatanong kayo 3297 02:32:30,100 --> 02:32:31,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when can you present it 3298 02:32:31,080 --> 02:32:31,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to the board 3299 02:32:31,540 --> 02:32:32,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi mo 3300 02:32:32,100 --> 02:32:32,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dati 3301 02:32:32,660 --> 02:32:35,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may special board meetings 3302 02:32:35,220 --> 02:32:36,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero wala na ngayon 3303 02:32:36,180 --> 02:32:36,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so we have to wait 3304 02:32:36,900 --> 02:32:37,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the 3305 02:32:37,420 --> 02:32:38,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: last 3306 02:32:38,320 --> 02:32:39,500 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: about the MOA po 3307 02:32:39,500 --> 02:32:40,020 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yeah 3308 02:32:40,020 --> 02:32:41,280 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sinagot ko po yun eh 3309 02:32:41,280 --> 02:32:42,080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yung sulat ni Mayor 3310 02:32:42,080 --> 02:32:42,880 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: no no sir 3311 02:32:42,880 --> 02:32:44,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sundan niyo muna ako 3312 02:32:44,200 --> 02:32:45,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in that same meeting 3313 02:32:45,520 --> 02:32:46,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinabi niyo 3314 02:32:46,360 --> 02:32:47,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi niyo kaya 3315 02:32:47,720 --> 02:32:48,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: two weeks 3316 02:32:48,300 --> 02:32:49,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi nga meron 3317 02:32:49,380 --> 02:32:51,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: walang special board meeting 3318 02:32:51,420 --> 02:32:52,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you have to wait 3319 02:32:52,220 --> 02:32:53,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the regular board meeting 3320 02:32:53,780 --> 02:32:54,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama 3321 02:32:54,480 --> 02:32:57,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have a tape 3322 02:32:57,340 --> 02:32:57,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of the ano 3323 02:32:57,860 --> 02:32:59,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: naka-tape yung inyong ano 3324 02:32:59,620 --> 02:33:01,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in-inform kayo 3325 02:33:01,360 --> 02:33:02,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that this meeting is taped 3326 02:33:02,380 --> 02:33:03,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because it's official 3327 02:33:03,120 --> 02:33:03,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have the transcript 3328 02:33:03,940 --> 02:33:04,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have the tape 3329 02:33:04,580 --> 02:33:05,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama 3330 02:33:05,520 --> 02:33:06,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinabi mo 3331 02:33:06,640 --> 02:33:07,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you have to wait 3332 02:33:07,140 --> 02:33:07,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the board meeting 3333 02:33:07,880 --> 02:33:09,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. Secretary 3334 02:33:09,040 --> 02:33:11,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino po ang ating rep ngayon 3335 02:33:11,460 --> 02:33:11,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yeah 3336 02:33:11,900 --> 02:33:12,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yusef Jonas 3337 02:33:12,960 --> 02:33:14,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: did the GM 3338 02:33:14,380 --> 02:33:15,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: submit the MOA 3339 02:33:15,220 --> 02:33:17,180 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: I have not seen the MOA 3340 02:33:17,180 --> 02:33:17,820 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: Mr. Senator 3341 02:33:17,820 --> 02:33:18,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: can you check 3342 02:33:18,640 --> 02:33:19,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with your board secretary 3343 02:33:19,520 --> 02:33:19,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi po ko 3344 02:33:19,960 --> 02:33:21,560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: nasubmit Mr. Senator 3345 02:33:21,560 --> 02:33:23,160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kasi sumulat po si Mayor 3346 02:33:23,160 --> 02:33:23,360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sorry 3347 02:33:23,360 --> 02:33:24,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi pa po ako tapos 3348 02:33:24,360 --> 02:33:24,840 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi 3349 02:33:24,840 --> 02:33:25,520 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tinatanong niyo po 3350 02:33:25,520 --> 02:33:25,700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yeah 3351 02:33:25,700 --> 02:33:26,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinatanong ko siya 3352 02:33:26,620 --> 02:33:27,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung sinabit mo siya 3353 02:33:27,180 --> 02:33:28,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi ito yung susunod 3354 02:33:28,340 --> 02:33:28,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kong tanong 3355 02:33:28,820 --> 02:33:31,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: after mo isubmit yun 3356 02:33:31,060 --> 02:33:32,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tumawag ka na lang 3357 02:33:32,760 --> 02:33:33,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa city 3358 02:33:33,280 --> 02:33:34,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at sinabi mo 3359 02:33:34,160 --> 02:33:34,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sorry 3360 02:33:34,840 --> 02:33:35,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi na ako pwedeng 3361 02:33:35,760 --> 02:33:37,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: makipag-meeting sa inyo 3362 02:33:37,020 --> 02:33:38,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at hindi na po 3363 02:33:38,600 --> 02:33:39,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kailangan yung MOA 3364 02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:40,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi 3365 02:33:40,020 --> 02:33:42,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nasa batas naman lahat 3366 02:33:42,240 --> 02:33:43,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yan ang sinabi niyo 3367 02:33:43,160 --> 02:33:43,920 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wala po ako 3368 02:33:43,920 --> 02:33:45,400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tinatawag ng galon 3369 02:33:45,400 --> 02:33:45,820 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wala po ko 3370 02:33:45,820 --> 02:33:46,680 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tinatawag ng galon 3371 02:33:46,680 --> 02:33:47,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then why wasn't 3372 02:33:47,540 --> 02:33:48,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there a second meeting 3373 02:33:48,460 --> 02:33:49,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sumulat po ako 3374 02:33:49,520 --> 02:33:50,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kay Mayor 3375 02:33:50,260 --> 02:33:51,700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: na sinagot ko yung 3376 02:33:51,700 --> 02:33:52,700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ano about the MOA 3377 02:33:52,700 --> 02:33:56,380 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi po ako 3378 02:33:56,380 --> 02:33:57,160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: tumatawag doon 3379 02:33:57,180 --> 02:33:59,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: your letter 3380 02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:00,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: on September 11 3381 02:34:00,000 --> 02:34:00,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: said 3382 02:34:00,520 --> 02:34:01,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: not necessary 3383 02:34:01,760 --> 02:34:02,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na yung MOA 3384 02:34:02,540 --> 02:34:03,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and then yung 3385 02:34:03,620 --> 02:34:04,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagpadala ng letter 3386 02:34:04,540 --> 02:34:05,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinabi niyo 3387 02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:06,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ayaw niyo na makipag-meeting 3388 02:34:06,460 --> 02:34:08,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagpakita na lang 3389 02:34:08,320 --> 02:34:08,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo today 3390 02:34:08,920 --> 02:34:09,320 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I'm not 3391 02:34:09,320 --> 02:34:10,360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: I had no intention 3392 02:34:10,360 --> 02:34:10,640 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: to do that 3393 02:34:10,640 --> 02:34:12,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taguig has been asking you 3394 02:34:12,020 --> 02:34:12,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for a meeting 3395 02:34:12,600 --> 02:34:14,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: again and again and again 3396 02:34:14,100 --> 02:34:15,240 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: at sabi niyo 3397 02:34:15,240 --> 02:34:15,400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi 3398 02:34:15,400 --> 02:34:15,940 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: that time 3399 02:34:15,940 --> 02:34:17,160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: natapat ng Congress 3400 02:34:17,160 --> 02:34:18,260 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yung budget 3401 02:34:18,260 --> 02:34:20,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so September 11 3402 02:34:20,300 --> 02:34:22,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: until October 20 3403 02:34:22,520 --> 02:34:23,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: budget sa house 3404 02:34:23,620 --> 02:34:24,360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi 3405 02:34:24,360 --> 02:34:25,400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kaya po 3406 02:34:25,400 --> 02:34:26,360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sumulat na lang ako 3407 02:34:26,360 --> 02:34:26,740 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sir 3408 02:34:27,180 --> 02:34:27,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gusto niyo 3409 02:34:27,940 --> 02:34:28,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kunin ko yung 3410 02:34:28,660 --> 02:34:29,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: call logs 3411 02:34:29,500 --> 02:34:30,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at saka yung text 3412 02:34:30,480 --> 02:34:31,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: et cetera 3413 02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:32,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na humihingi ng meeting 3414 02:34:32,580 --> 02:34:33,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at sabi niyo 3415 02:34:33,200 --> 02:34:33,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi na kailangan 3416 02:34:33,860 --> 02:34:34,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng MOA 3417 02:34:34,340 --> 02:34:36,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino nag-decide 3418 02:34:36,200 --> 02:34:36,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na hindi na kailangan 3419 02:34:36,840 --> 02:34:37,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng MOA 3420 02:34:37,120 --> 02:34:38,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ikaw o yung board 3421 02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:39,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi po board 3422 02:34:39,620 --> 02:34:40,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ko po nasabihin 3423 02:34:40,380 --> 02:34:40,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kaya nga 3424 02:34:40,860 --> 02:34:42,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so isn't it your duty 3425 02:34:42,020 --> 02:34:43,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to submit it to the board 3426 02:34:43,320 --> 02:34:44,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: does the mayor 3427 02:34:44,340 --> 02:34:45,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have to call the secretary 3428 02:34:45,480 --> 02:34:46,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and talk to the board 3429 02:34:46,580 --> 02:34:47,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the proposed MOA 3430 02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:48,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: let me ask you 3431 02:34:48,600 --> 02:34:49,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this follow-up question 3432 02:34:49,520 --> 02:34:51,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: does Taguig 3433 02:34:51,060 --> 02:34:52,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have a ongoing 3434 02:34:52,160 --> 02:34:53,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: MOA with you 3435 02:34:53,180 --> 02:34:54,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in any area there 3436 02:34:54,680 --> 02:34:56,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ma'am 3437 02:34:56,900 --> 02:34:57,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pabayaan natin siya 3438 02:34:57,700 --> 02:34:58,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi 3439 02:34:58,160 --> 02:34:59,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ayaw niya ng MOA 3440 02:34:59,460 --> 02:35:00,320 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wala po akong alam 3441 02:35:00,320 --> 02:35:01,560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kasi hindi pa ako 3442 02:35:01,560 --> 02:35:02,740 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: nakapag-MOA sa Taguig 3443 02:35:02,740 --> 02:35:03,860 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sir meron po 3444 02:35:03,860 --> 02:35:04,900 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: during my time 3445 02:35:04,900 --> 02:35:05,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron po sir 3446 02:35:05,720 --> 02:35:06,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala po po 3447 02:35:06,400 --> 02:35:07,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: existing to 3448 02:35:07,080 --> 02:35:07,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fisheries 3449 02:35:07,920 --> 02:35:09,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: question sir 3450 02:35:09,660 --> 02:35:11,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 50 hectares 3451 02:35:11,900 --> 02:35:13,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Taytay Rizal 3452 02:35:13,120 --> 02:35:14,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ginagamit ng 3453 02:35:14,800 --> 02:35:15,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA 3454 02:35:15,660 --> 02:35:16,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: huwag natingnan si ma'am 3455 02:35:16,960 --> 02:35:18,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ginagamit ng 3456 02:35:18,160 --> 02:35:18,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA 3457 02:35:18,920 --> 02:35:20,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng MMDA 3458 02:35:20,080 --> 02:35:21,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at saka ng 3459 02:35:21,280 --> 02:35:22,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH 3460 02:35:22,060 --> 02:35:22,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dati 3461 02:35:22,680 --> 02:35:25,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kamusta po yun? 3462 02:35:26,900 --> 02:35:27,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't know that 3463 02:35:27,900 --> 02:35:29,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you don't know 3464 02:35:29,200 --> 02:35:30,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you don't know 3465 02:35:30,500 --> 02:35:31,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na may nang-aangkin doon 3466 02:35:31,820 --> 02:35:33,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so kinasuhan ng LLDA 3467 02:35:33,140 --> 02:35:36,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: after gamitin 3468 02:35:36,160 --> 02:35:37,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung tatlong agencies 3469 02:35:37,360 --> 02:35:39,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi sabi ni Senator Lacson 3470 02:35:39,000 --> 02:35:40,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may nangangamkam ng lupa 3471 02:35:40,320 --> 02:35:42,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't know 3472 02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:42,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Taytay 3473 02:35:42,740 --> 02:35:44,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano na ang status 3474 02:35:44,820 --> 02:35:45,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung kaso na yan? 3475 02:35:48,040 --> 02:35:48,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you don't know 3476 02:35:48,900 --> 02:35:49,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that's 50 hectares 3477 02:35:49,740 --> 02:35:50,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi ng ombudsman 3478 02:35:50,700 --> 02:35:52,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: imbistigahan nyo lahat 3479 02:35:52,060 --> 02:35:53,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng nangangamkam ng lupa 3480 02:35:53,300 --> 02:35:55,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit nyo hindi alam 3481 02:35:55,400 --> 02:35:55,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung sa Taytay? 3482 02:35:56,020 --> 02:35:56,880 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ang alam po sa Taytay 3483 02:35:56,900 --> 02:35:58,180 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: meron kaming inisyo 3484 02:35:58,180 --> 02:35:58,460 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ng 3485 02:35:58,460 --> 02:35:59,720 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: CDO 3486 02:35:59,720 --> 02:36:00,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so ma'am 3487 02:36:00,900 --> 02:36:02,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung may kaso doon 3488 02:36:02,020 --> 02:36:03,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: anong status 3489 02:36:03,500 --> 02:36:04,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung kaso? 3490 02:36:04,600 --> 02:36:04,780 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: sir 3491 02:36:04,780 --> 02:36:06,020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: doon po sa 3492 02:36:06,020 --> 02:36:07,480 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: nag-backfill po 3493 02:36:07,480 --> 02:36:08,420 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: illegal backfill 3494 02:36:08,420 --> 02:36:08,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: no no 3495 02:36:08,820 --> 02:36:09,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm talking about 3496 02:36:09,360 --> 02:36:10,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the 50 hectares 3497 02:36:10,260 --> 02:36:11,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nakasama MMDA 3498 02:36:11,920 --> 02:36:12,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA 3499 02:36:12,700 --> 02:36:13,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kinaso 3500 02:36:13,720 --> 02:36:14,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi nga may kumukuha 3501 02:36:14,980 --> 02:36:17,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: do I have to name 3502 02:36:17,760 --> 02:36:18,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the names? 3503 02:36:19,280 --> 02:36:19,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi nyo alam? 3504 02:36:19,880 --> 02:36:20,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: alam na siya 3505 02:36:20,320 --> 02:36:22,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: napabayaan na ba? 3506 02:36:23,160 --> 02:36:24,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: natalo ba yung kaso? 3507 02:36:24,220 --> 02:36:24,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what? 3508 02:36:25,000 --> 02:36:25,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: di ba ang main point 3509 02:36:25,820 --> 02:36:26,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ni Senator Lacson? 3510 02:36:26,640 --> 02:36:27,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which I support 3511 02:36:27,520 --> 02:36:28,540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: sir 3512 02:36:28,540 --> 02:36:29,560 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: kung may nangangamkam 3513 02:36:29,560 --> 02:36:30,660 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: ng lupa doon 3514 02:36:30,660 --> 02:36:31,460 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: sir 3515 02:36:31,460 --> 02:36:32,360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: on our part 3516 02:36:32,360 --> 02:36:34,000 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: we are not privy to the 3517 02:36:34,000 --> 02:36:35,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: paano kayong hindi privy? 3518 02:36:35,320 --> 02:36:36,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: eh tatlo kayong nandun 3519 02:36:36,420 --> 02:36:37,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa lupa na yun 3520 02:36:37,300 --> 02:36:38,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tapos isa-isa 3521 02:36:38,360 --> 02:36:39,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayong nawawala doon 3522 02:36:39,680 --> 02:36:40,300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I mean sir 3523 02:36:40,300 --> 02:36:41,680 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yung binibigay po 3524 02:36:41,680 --> 02:36:42,540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: na figures 3525 02:36:42,540 --> 02:36:44,120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: ni Senator 3526 02:36:44,120 --> 02:36:45,400 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: validation 3527 02:36:45,400 --> 02:36:45,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano? 3528 02:36:45,820 --> 02:36:47,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang binigay ni Senator Lacson 3529 02:36:47,560 --> 02:36:48,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tagig lang 3530 02:36:48,180 --> 02:36:49,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ako yung nagsasabi 3531 02:36:49,400 --> 02:36:50,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Taytay 3532 02:36:50,300 --> 02:36:51,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi alam ko yun eh 3533 02:36:51,300 --> 02:36:53,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so tinatanong ko kayo 3534 02:36:53,360 --> 02:36:54,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi nyo kasi 3535 02:36:54,320 --> 02:36:55,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi tagig lang 3536 02:36:55,020 --> 02:36:55,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinitignan nyo eh 3537 02:36:55,900 --> 02:36:56,400 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yes sir 3538 02:36:56,400 --> 02:36:57,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano nangyari doon 3539 02:36:57,320 --> 02:36:58,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa lupa sa Taytay? 3540 02:37:00,840 --> 02:37:02,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo nag-file ng kaso 3541 02:37:02,240 --> 02:37:02,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA 3542 02:37:02,820 --> 02:37:03,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit nyo hindi alam? 3543 02:37:06,580 --> 02:37:08,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lipat tayo sa tagig ulit 3544 02:37:08,040 --> 02:37:09,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 17 3545 02:37:09,080 --> 02:37:09,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano? 3546 02:37:10,220 --> 02:37:11,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 170 hectares 3547 02:37:11,620 --> 02:37:12,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang sinabi ni 3548 02:37:12,340 --> 02:37:13,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Lacson 3549 02:37:13,140 --> 02:37:15,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron bang gano'n? 3550 02:37:15,720 --> 02:37:16,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa pagtitingin nyo 3551 02:37:16,600 --> 02:37:17,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng mga titulo 3552 02:37:17,120 --> 02:37:18,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron bang gano'n? 3553 02:37:19,720 --> 02:37:20,180 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wala po 3554 02:37:20,180 --> 02:37:21,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may fake titles 3555 02:37:21,960 --> 02:37:22,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng gano'n 3556 02:37:22,920 --> 02:37:23,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: please use the mic sir 3557 02:37:23,920 --> 02:37:26,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: please use the right GM 3558 02:37:26,000 --> 02:37:26,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron bang gano'n? 3559 02:37:26,400 --> 02:37:26,780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: wala 3560 02:37:26,780 --> 02:37:29,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may yan ako 3561 02:37:29,560 --> 02:37:30,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kay Senator Riza 3562 02:37:30,780 --> 02:37:31,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at kay Secretary 3563 02:37:31,840 --> 02:37:32,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at kay Senator Pia 3564 02:37:32,940 --> 02:37:33,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kaya 3565 02:37:33,680 --> 02:37:34,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: puputuling ko 3566 02:37:34,920 --> 02:37:35,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: after one more issue 3567 02:37:35,880 --> 02:37:37,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: jurisdiction lang set 3568 02:37:37,020 --> 02:37:38,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dahil importante lang to 3569 02:37:38,380 --> 02:37:38,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then I will 3570 02:37:38,920 --> 02:37:39,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I will ask 3571 02:37:39,800 --> 02:37:40,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: simply lang 3572 02:37:40,560 --> 02:37:42,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I will give you the benefit 3573 02:37:42,080 --> 02:37:42,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of the doubt 3574 02:37:42,620 --> 02:37:43,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: engineer 3575 02:37:43,160 --> 02:37:45,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na we want to move forward 3576 02:37:45,520 --> 02:37:46,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at hindi tayo 3577 02:37:46,160 --> 02:37:47,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bias or prejudice 3578 02:37:47,200 --> 02:37:48,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay 3579 02:37:48,040 --> 02:37:49,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: jurisdiction 3580 02:37:49,540 --> 02:37:51,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino may jurisdiction 3581 02:37:51,660 --> 02:37:52,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng reclamation 3582 02:37:52,940 --> 02:37:54,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Laguna Lake? 3583 02:37:56,400 --> 02:37:58,560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: LLDA po yan 3584 02:37:58,560 --> 02:38:01,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA sir 3585 02:38:01,600 --> 02:38:03,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinabi ng PRA 3586 02:38:03,860 --> 02:38:04,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sila may jurisdiction 3587 02:38:04,820 --> 02:38:06,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinabi ni Senator Lacson 3588 02:38:06,980 --> 02:38:08,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi PRA 3589 02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:09,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi LLDA 3590 02:38:09,140 --> 02:38:11,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nakita niya yung huli niyang interview 3591 02:38:11,640 --> 02:38:12,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi niya 3592 02:38:12,380 --> 02:38:13,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang may jurisdiction 3593 02:38:13,920 --> 02:38:16,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: environmental lang ang LLDA 3594 02:38:16,100 --> 02:38:18,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit pagkatagig ang binabanatan 3595 02:38:18,760 --> 02:38:20,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay lang sa inyo magpa-interview 3596 02:38:20,960 --> 02:38:23,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero pag kayo ang sinabihan 3597 02:38:23,200 --> 02:38:24,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na wala kayong jurisdiction 3598 02:38:24,240 --> 02:38:25,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi kayo makapagsalita 3599 02:38:25,400 --> 02:38:26,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na kayo makapagsalita 3600 02:38:26,000 --> 02:38:27,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na kayo may jurisdiction 3601 02:38:27,000 --> 02:38:28,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so ma'am 3602 02:38:28,960 --> 02:38:31,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: do you agree with the GM 3603 02:38:31,160 --> 02:38:32,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na kayo ang may jurisdiction? 3604 02:38:33,160 --> 02:38:33,580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir 3605 02:38:33,580 --> 02:38:34,500 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: we are firmly 3606 02:38:34,500 --> 02:38:35,120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: sir 3607 02:38:35,120 --> 02:38:36,300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the LLDA jurisdiction 3608 02:38:36,300 --> 02:38:37,220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: over all 3609 02:38:37,220 --> 02:38:39,160 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: developmental activities 3610 02:38:39,160 --> 02:38:39,980 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: in the region 3611 02:38:39,980 --> 02:38:40,660 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: okay 3612 02:38:40,660 --> 02:38:42,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm happy with that 3613 02:38:42,280 --> 02:38:43,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and I'm happy 3614 02:38:43,040 --> 02:38:44,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na maghigpit kayo 3615 02:38:44,540 --> 02:38:44,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so 3616 02:38:44,780 --> 02:38:45,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yusek 3617 02:38:45,500 --> 02:38:46,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama po ba 3618 02:38:46,400 --> 02:38:47,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na ang may jurisdiction 3619 02:38:47,400 --> 02:38:48,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA? 3620 02:38:48,140 --> 02:38:49,220 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: based on existing law 3621 02:38:49,220 --> 02:38:49,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay 3622 02:38:49,700 --> 02:38:51,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so etong tanong ko 3623 02:38:51,400 --> 02:38:52,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit pa kayo 3624 02:38:52,460 --> 02:38:53,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagtanong sa OGCC? 3625 02:38:54,920 --> 02:38:55,900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: actually sir 3626 02:38:55,900 --> 02:38:57,300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the OGCC requested 3627 02:38:57,300 --> 02:38:58,800 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: for our legal position 3628 02:38:58,800 --> 02:38:59,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi 3629 02:38:59,940 --> 02:39:00,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang sinabi ng 3630 02:39:00,940 --> 02:39:02,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: PRA 3631 02:39:02,520 --> 02:39:04,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at ang sinabi ng 3632 02:39:04,160 --> 02:39:07,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: TPWH 3633 02:39:07,440 --> 02:39:08,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at sa minutes 3634 02:39:08,220 --> 02:39:09,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng meeting nyo 3635 02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:09,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi nyo 3636 02:39:09,880 --> 02:39:11,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you submitted to OGCC 3637 02:39:11,460 --> 02:39:12,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ma'am are you a lawyer? 3638 02:39:13,080 --> 02:39:13,460 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir 3639 02:39:13,460 --> 02:39:13,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yes 3640 02:39:13,680 --> 02:39:14,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kumpanyera 3641 02:39:14,440 --> 02:39:16,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: between the 3642 02:39:16,440 --> 02:39:17,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DOJ opinion 3643 02:39:17,720 --> 02:39:19,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and an OGCC opinion 3644 02:39:19,460 --> 02:39:20,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which one will prevail? 3645 02:39:21,900 --> 02:39:23,120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I'm sure the DOJ 3646 02:39:23,120 --> 02:39:23,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the DOJ 3647 02:39:23,760 --> 02:39:25,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the OGCC 3648 02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:25,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is an attorney 3649 02:39:25,900 --> 02:39:26,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: agency 3650 02:39:26,560 --> 02:39:27,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: right 3651 02:39:27,400 --> 02:39:28,540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: and the 3652 02:39:28,540 --> 02:39:29,980 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: OGCC acts as a 3653 02:39:29,980 --> 02:39:31,020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: legal office 3654 02:39:31,020 --> 02:39:31,760 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: of DOJ 3655 02:39:31,760 --> 02:39:33,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's a legal office 3656 02:39:33,380 --> 02:39:34,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of the OG 3657 02:39:34,020 --> 02:39:35,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of the government 3658 02:39:35,000 --> 02:39:35,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: corporation 3659 02:39:35,600 --> 02:39:37,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but it is 3660 02:39:37,060 --> 02:39:37,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: under the DOJ 3661 02:39:37,980 --> 02:39:38,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the 3662 02:39:38,900 --> 02:39:40,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: secretary of the DOJ 3663 02:39:40,520 --> 02:39:42,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: acts as the 3664 02:39:42,200 --> 02:39:42,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: attorney general 3665 02:39:42,980 --> 02:39:44,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in cases like this 3666 02:39:44,040 --> 02:39:45,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and his opinion 3667 02:39:45,160 --> 02:39:45,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: prevails 3668 02:39:45,720 --> 02:39:46,340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir 3669 02:39:46,340 --> 02:39:47,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and you have a 3670 02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:47,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1995 3671 02:39:47,560 --> 02:39:49,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: opinion 3672 02:39:49,020 --> 02:39:50,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: by the DOJ 3673 02:39:50,220 --> 02:39:51,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: stating that 3674 02:39:51,760 --> 02:39:53,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang may jurisdiction 3675 02:39:53,340 --> 02:39:54,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ay LLDA 3676 02:39:54,460 --> 02:39:54,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: correct? 3677 02:39:54,780 --> 02:39:55,220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir 3678 02:39:55,220 --> 02:39:55,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: correct? 3679 02:39:55,900 --> 02:39:56,360 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir 3680 02:39:56,360 --> 02:39:56,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay 3681 02:39:56,640 --> 02:39:57,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you have a board 3682 02:39:57,900 --> 02:39:58,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: resolution 3683 02:39:58,460 --> 02:39:59,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: from the LLDA 3684 02:39:59,920 --> 02:40:00,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: saying that you have 3685 02:40:00,760 --> 02:40:02,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: exclusive jurisdiction 3686 02:40:02,040 --> 02:40:03,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: not just jurisdiction 3687 02:40:03,500 --> 02:40:04,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: exclusive jurisdiction 3688 02:40:04,720 --> 02:40:05,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: correct? 3689 02:40:05,420 --> 02:40:05,900 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir 3690 02:40:05,900 --> 02:40:06,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: oh 3691 02:40:06,240 --> 02:40:07,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm sure 3692 02:40:07,980 --> 02:40:09,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit nyo pinapayagan 3693 02:40:09,040 --> 02:40:09,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng PRA 3694 02:40:09,580 --> 02:40:10,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: makialam sa Laguna Lake 3695 02:40:10,820 --> 02:40:12,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm sure 3696 02:40:12,360 --> 02:40:14,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: oh bakit 3697 02:40:14,780 --> 02:40:15,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagdating 3698 02:40:15,220 --> 02:40:15,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kaharap nyo 3699 02:40:15,880 --> 02:40:16,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang ano eh 3700 02:40:16,360 --> 02:40:17,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: USEC ng DPWH 3701 02:40:17,900 --> 02:40:19,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang problema 3702 02:40:19,120 --> 02:40:20,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kay SECVIMS 3703 02:40:20,060 --> 02:40:21,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagharap ng camera 3704 02:40:21,320 --> 02:40:21,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: akala mo 3705 02:40:21,960 --> 02:40:22,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano eh 3706 02:40:22,600 --> 02:40:23,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang tibay ng 3707 02:40:23,820 --> 02:40:24,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPD 3708 02:40:24,140 --> 02:40:25,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: turo ng turo 3709 02:40:25,280 --> 02:40:26,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mura ng mura 3710 02:40:26,440 --> 02:40:28,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero behind the camera 3711 02:40:28,120 --> 02:40:29,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: takot na takot 3712 02:40:29,160 --> 02:40:31,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ayaw magsabi ng totoo 3713 02:40:31,180 --> 02:40:31,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano sabi nung 3714 02:40:31,740 --> 02:40:32,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: USEC niya 3715 02:40:32,820 --> 02:40:33,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung kasama kayo 3716 02:40:33,600 --> 02:40:35,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ma'am baka we can 3717 02:40:35,240 --> 02:40:37,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: be more conservative 3718 02:40:37,020 --> 02:40:38,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tigil muna natin 3719 02:40:38,580 --> 02:40:39,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: habang ang 3720 02:40:39,340 --> 02:40:41,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ikaw ang kasama ma'am 3721 02:40:41,160 --> 02:40:42,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may kasama siyang 3722 02:40:42,200 --> 02:40:43,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: iba na abogado 3723 02:40:43,400 --> 02:40:44,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: GM diba 3724 02:40:44,060 --> 02:40:45,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have the minutes 3725 02:40:45,400 --> 02:40:46,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have the tape 3726 02:40:46,540 --> 02:40:48,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang sabi po niya 3727 02:40:48,420 --> 02:40:48,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba 3728 02:40:48,740 --> 02:40:49,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: GM 3729 02:40:49,360 --> 02:40:50,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang sabi nila 3730 02:40:50,100 --> 02:40:52,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka magandang 3731 02:40:52,620 --> 02:40:53,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mas conservative 3732 02:40:53,400 --> 02:40:55,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: habang pinag-uusapan pa 3733 02:40:55,180 --> 02:40:55,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung jurisdiction 3734 02:40:55,860 --> 02:40:57,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tigil muna natin 3735 02:40:57,180 --> 02:40:57,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung project 3736 02:40:57,740 --> 02:40:59,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama ba GM 3737 02:40:59,240 --> 02:40:59,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in 3738 02:40:59,500 --> 02:41:00,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in 3739 02:41:00,200 --> 02:41:01,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: actually 3740 02:41:01,200 --> 02:41:02,220 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: pinahinto nga raw sila 3741 02:41:02,220 --> 02:41:03,160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: minto naman sila 3742 02:41:03,160 --> 02:41:04,220 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: pinahinto sila ng PRA 3743 02:41:04,220 --> 02:41:05,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I agree with you sir 3744 02:41:05,500 --> 02:41:07,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung kayo magpahinto 3745 02:41:07,200 --> 02:41:08,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dapat kami sumunod 3746 02:41:08,420 --> 02:41:09,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dapat sumunod 3747 02:41:09,160 --> 02:41:09,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang gobyerno 3748 02:41:09,720 --> 02:41:11,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo may jurisdiction eh 3749 02:41:11,080 --> 02:41:12,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba 3750 02:41:12,160 --> 02:41:13,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo may jurisdiction 3751 02:41:13,680 --> 02:41:15,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit nyo hindi 3752 02:41:15,040 --> 02:41:15,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pinaglalaban 3753 02:41:15,680 --> 02:41:16,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang jurisdiction nyo 3754 02:41:16,660 --> 02:41:18,260 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi naman po 3755 02:41:18,260 --> 02:41:19,540 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kaya nga po 3756 02:41:19,540 --> 02:41:20,180 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: yung nahabon namin 3757 02:41:20,180 --> 02:41:20,760 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: sir 3758 02:41:20,760 --> 02:41:23,060 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: if I may go back 3759 02:41:23,060 --> 02:41:23,980 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: to your previous 3760 02:41:23,980 --> 02:41:25,100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: it is the PR 3761 02:41:25,180 --> 02:41:26,340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: that sought the 3762 02:41:26,340 --> 02:41:27,520 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: OGCC opinion 3763 02:41:27,520 --> 02:41:29,120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: and while they are 3764 02:41:29,120 --> 02:41:30,620 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: evaluating that 3765 02:41:30,620 --> 02:41:31,540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: request 3766 02:41:31,540 --> 02:41:32,200 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: we are 3767 02:41:32,200 --> 02:41:33,220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: asked by the 3768 02:41:33,220 --> 02:41:34,280 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: OGCC to provide 3769 02:41:34,280 --> 02:41:35,200 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: our legal position 3770 02:41:35,200 --> 02:41:36,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and nilagay nyo sa legal 3771 02:41:36,380 --> 02:41:36,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: position nyo 3772 02:41:36,940 --> 02:41:38,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there's already a DOJ opinion 3773 02:41:38,620 --> 02:41:39,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi 3774 02:41:39,540 --> 02:41:41,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagdating ng OGCC dito 3775 02:41:41,620 --> 02:41:42,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tuturuan ko sila ng leksyon 3776 02:41:42,860 --> 02:41:43,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka hindi sila 3777 02:41:43,480 --> 02:41:44,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nag law school 3778 02:41:44,080 --> 02:41:46,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: paano ka naman magkakaroon 3779 02:41:46,720 --> 02:41:47,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng OGCC opinion 3780 02:41:47,780 --> 02:41:49,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: e meron ng DOJ opinion 3781 02:41:49,200 --> 02:41:50,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they're wasting 3782 02:41:50,740 --> 02:41:51,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: government money 3783 02:41:51,840 --> 02:41:53,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we're wasting time 3784 02:41:53,440 --> 02:41:54,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sir 3785 02:41:54,340 --> 02:41:55,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: eto list nyo 3786 02:41:55,660 --> 02:41:56,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Laguna Lake 3787 02:41:56,500 --> 02:41:58,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for reclamation 3788 02:41:58,080 --> 02:41:59,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron ba nakalagay dito 3789 02:41:59,800 --> 02:42:01,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na kailangan ng PRA permit? 3790 02:42:03,060 --> 02:42:03,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala 3791 02:42:03,320 --> 02:42:05,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi you do not recognize them 3792 02:42:05,440 --> 02:42:07,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: eto yung sa PRA 3793 02:42:07,040 --> 02:42:09,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we have exactly the same 3794 02:42:09,480 --> 02:42:09,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa PRA 3795 02:42:09,900 --> 02:42:10,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala naman nakalagay doon 3796 02:42:10,940 --> 02:42:11,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na LLDA 3797 02:42:11,600 --> 02:42:12,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: okay 3798 02:42:12,720 --> 02:42:14,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: babalik ngayon tayo 3799 02:42:14,220 --> 02:42:15,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa LLRN 3800 02:42:15,200 --> 02:42:17,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano ang kaibahan 3801 02:42:17,220 --> 02:42:17,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng charter 3802 02:42:17,780 --> 02:42:19,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng PRA at LLRN 3803 02:42:19,660 --> 02:42:21,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sorry 3804 02:42:21,760 --> 02:42:23,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: PRA at LLDA 3805 02:42:23,340 --> 02:42:24,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: anong pagkakapagalagay? 3806 02:42:24,340 --> 02:42:24,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo ba? 3807 02:42:25,620 --> 02:42:27,300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: sir the LLDA charter 3808 02:42:27,300 --> 02:42:28,180 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: speaks of 3809 02:42:28,180 --> 02:42:30,080 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: all development activities 3810 02:42:30,080 --> 02:42:31,280 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: which reclamation 3811 02:42:31,280 --> 02:42:32,400 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: is only part of it 3812 02:42:32,400 --> 02:42:32,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sorry ma'am 3813 02:42:32,740 --> 02:42:33,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: my fault 3814 02:42:33,180 --> 02:42:34,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what's the difference 3815 02:42:34,240 --> 02:42:35,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when it comes to reclamation? 3816 02:42:37,240 --> 02:42:37,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sir 3817 02:42:37,800 --> 02:42:39,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: correct me if I'm wrong 3818 02:42:39,340 --> 02:42:40,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa PRA 3819 02:42:40,120 --> 02:42:41,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung proponent may are 3820 02:42:41,840 --> 02:42:42,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may share lang 3821 02:42:42,500 --> 02:42:43,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang gobyerno 3822 02:42:43,580 --> 02:42:44,240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yes sir 3823 02:42:44,240 --> 02:42:45,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa LLDA 3824 02:42:45,620 --> 02:42:47,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagka nag reclaim ka 3825 02:42:47,480 --> 02:42:48,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa LLDA yung dupa 3826 02:42:48,500 --> 02:42:50,300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the charter of the LLDA 3827 02:42:50,300 --> 02:42:50,840 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: is clear 3828 02:42:50,840 --> 02:42:52,420 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: that all reclaimed land 3829 02:42:52,420 --> 02:42:52,860 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: shall be 3830 02:42:52,860 --> 02:42:53,640 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: property of LLDA 3831 02:42:53,640 --> 02:42:54,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so patapusin niya 3832 02:42:54,340 --> 02:42:55,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung LLRN 3833 02:42:55,480 --> 02:42:57,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi yung mga loko 3834 02:42:57,280 --> 02:42:58,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dyan sa DPWH 3835 02:42:58,720 --> 02:43:00,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: iflip-flip yan 3836 02:43:00,140 --> 02:43:02,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang gagawin nila 3837 02:43:02,220 --> 02:43:03,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa LLRN 3838 02:43:03,160 --> 02:43:04,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pera ng gobyerno 3839 02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:06,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa murang interest 3840 02:43:06,300 --> 02:43:07,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa kuryano 3841 02:43:07,420 --> 02:43:08,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at saka sa 3842 02:43:08,300 --> 02:43:09,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Asian Development Bank 3843 02:43:09,800 --> 02:43:10,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tapos iflip-flip 3844 02:43:10,800 --> 02:43:11,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa private 3845 02:43:11,400 --> 02:43:13,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ikakabit sa mga highway 3846 02:43:13,680 --> 02:43:15,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gagawin paid highway 3847 02:43:15,200 --> 02:43:16,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yan hindi libre 3848 02:43:16,000 --> 02:43:17,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so okay sa inyo 3849 02:43:17,320 --> 02:43:17,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit 3850 02:43:17,780 --> 02:43:19,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa inyo na yung lupa 3851 02:43:19,300 --> 02:43:20,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa inyo ang pera 3852 02:43:20,260 --> 02:43:20,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi sa kanila 3853 02:43:20,940 --> 02:43:22,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yun ang kaibahan 3854 02:43:22,780 --> 02:43:24,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but you have to treat it 3855 02:43:24,120 --> 02:43:24,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: as a reclamation 3856 02:43:24,800 --> 02:43:26,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because that is 3857 02:43:26,260 --> 02:43:27,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what is in the ano eh 3858 02:43:27,180 --> 02:43:27,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba 3859 02:43:27,940 --> 02:43:29,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so gusto ni SecBins 3860 02:43:29,280 --> 02:43:31,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na ang interpretation niya 3861 02:43:31,400 --> 02:43:33,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is it is a reclamation 3862 02:43:33,100 --> 02:43:34,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then so be it 3863 02:43:34,040 --> 02:43:35,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he cannot have it 3864 02:43:35,740 --> 02:43:36,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: both ways 3865 02:43:36,420 --> 02:43:37,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba 3866 02:43:37,900 --> 02:43:39,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so that's my point 3867 02:43:39,880 --> 02:43:40,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. Secretary 3868 02:43:40,480 --> 02:43:41,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala akong problema 3869 02:43:41,620 --> 02:43:42,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung tabing ilog 3870 02:43:42,700 --> 02:43:44,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng tagig 3871 02:43:44,720 --> 02:43:46,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pag sinabi doon 3872 02:43:46,460 --> 02:43:47,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: flood control yun 3873 02:43:47,700 --> 02:43:48,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi kailangan 3874 02:43:48,420 --> 02:43:49,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na reclamation permit 3875 02:43:49,520 --> 02:43:50,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ganoon din yung 3876 02:43:50,500 --> 02:43:51,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLRN highway 3877 02:43:51,540 --> 02:43:52,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ganoon din yung 3878 02:43:52,900 --> 02:43:53,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Anguno 3879 02:43:53,420 --> 02:43:54,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ganoon din yung 3880 02:43:54,440 --> 02:43:56,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Muntinlupa 3881 02:43:56,060 --> 02:43:57,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ngayon kung sinabi niyong 3882 02:43:57,200 --> 02:43:58,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kailangan ng permit 3883 02:43:58,160 --> 02:43:59,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dahil lahat kailangan ng permit 3884 02:43:59,660 --> 02:44:01,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: just treat everything equally 3885 02:44:01,600 --> 02:44:02,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but eto po tanong po 3886 02:44:02,840 --> 02:44:04,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if that construction 3887 02:44:04,600 --> 02:44:05,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: has been going on 3888 02:44:05,400 --> 02:44:06,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the last 20 years 3889 02:44:06,660 --> 02:44:09,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ire-retroact nyo 3890 02:44:09,240 --> 02:44:11,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or you will 3891 02:44:11,700 --> 02:44:12,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you will provide 3892 02:44:12,740 --> 02:44:13,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a path forward 3893 02:44:13,560 --> 02:44:14,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so meaning sir 3894 02:44:14,780 --> 02:44:16,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at the first instance 3895 02:44:16,900 --> 02:44:17,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that you sent a letter 3896 02:44:17,880 --> 02:44:19,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and said dapat may permit yan 3897 02:44:19,100 --> 02:44:19,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tama kayo 3898 02:44:19,740 --> 02:44:21,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dapat lahat kumuha ng permit 3899 02:44:21,580 --> 02:44:22,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang DPWH 3900 02:44:22,320 --> 02:44:23,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi rin kumuha ng permit 3901 02:44:23,280 --> 02:44:24,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa local government 3902 02:44:24,100 --> 02:44:27,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but before nyo 3903 02:44:27,660 --> 02:44:28,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in-inform 3904 02:44:28,540 --> 02:44:30,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na sir dapat may permit kayo 3905 02:44:30,800 --> 02:44:32,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ginagawa na lahat yun 3906 02:44:32,120 --> 02:44:33,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fair ba yun 3907 02:44:33,240 --> 02:44:35,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na ipapatigil 3908 02:44:35,020 --> 02:44:35,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at sisirain yung 3909 02:44:35,860 --> 02:44:37,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at magkakaproblema tayo 3910 02:44:37,860 --> 02:44:41,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sir ikaw 3911 02:44:41,440 --> 02:44:42,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fair ba yun 3912 02:44:42,140 --> 02:44:45,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi sa anti-grap law 3913 02:44:45,640 --> 02:44:47,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagka may prejudice 3914 02:44:47,580 --> 02:44:48,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa public 3915 02:44:48,180 --> 02:44:51,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: problema yun 3916 02:44:51,020 --> 02:44:52,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano dyan 3917 02:44:52,520 --> 02:44:53,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: no 3918 02:44:53,280 --> 02:44:54,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what I'm saying sir 3919 02:44:54,140 --> 02:44:54,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: para malinaw 3920 02:44:54,880 --> 02:44:56,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: forever 3921 02:44:56,740 --> 02:44:58,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi kayo humingi ng permit 3922 02:44:58,220 --> 02:44:59,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ginawa yung manggahan 3923 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:02,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: floodway, hindi kayo humingi ng permit. 3924 02:45:03,040 --> 02:45:04,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ginawa yung west of Pagkaan 3925 02:45:04,460 --> 02:45:06,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: floodway, hindi kayo gumawa ng permit. 3926 02:45:06,640 --> 02:45:08,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung dalawang lane, ginawang four lane, 3927 02:45:08,420 --> 02:45:09,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi kayo humingi ng permit. 3928 02:45:10,220 --> 02:45:12,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ginawa yung linear park, hindi 3929 02:45:12,360 --> 02:45:14,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nyo hininga ng permit. Ginawa sa Muntinlupa, 3930 02:45:14,440 --> 02:45:16,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi kayo humingi ng permit. Ginawa yung 3931 02:45:16,320 --> 02:45:18,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: missing lane, hindi kayo humingi ng permit. 3932 02:45:19,040 --> 02:45:20,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O tapos nasabihin nyo, sandali lang, 3933 02:45:20,920 --> 02:45:21,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit wala kayong permit? 3934 02:45:22,760 --> 02:45:24,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabihin nyo, mag-comply kayo. 3935 02:45:24,740 --> 02:45:26,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero yung bigla nyo silang kakasuhan, 3936 02:45:27,600 --> 02:45:29,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bigla nyo kakasuhan 3937 02:45:29,120 --> 02:45:30,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dahil wala mga permit na noong time 3938 02:45:30,620 --> 02:45:32,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na yun, hindi nyo nare-require. Kasi noong 3939 02:45:32,660 --> 02:45:34,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: time na yun, nandito sa minutes 3940 02:45:34,740 --> 02:45:36,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nyo, Mr. Sagatari, noong time 3941 02:45:36,600 --> 02:45:38,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na yun, they consider pag public works, 3942 02:45:38,720 --> 02:45:39,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's not reclamation. 3943 02:45:41,320 --> 02:45:42,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pag flood control, 3944 02:45:42,700 --> 02:45:44,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: road, park, they do not 3945 02:45:44,600 --> 02:45:45,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: consider it a reclamation. 3946 02:45:46,580 --> 02:45:48,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's why you didn't ask for that. Pero tama 3947 02:45:48,420 --> 02:45:49,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo, I agree with you. 3948 02:45:50,460 --> 02:45:52,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Malinaw na malinaw yung 2006 3949 02:45:52,760 --> 02:45:54,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nyo. Basta't maglagay 3950 02:45:54,560 --> 02:45:56,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng an inch of lupa dyan, it's either 3951 02:45:56,480 --> 02:45:58,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: development or reclamation, kahit private 3952 02:45:58,560 --> 02:46:00,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or public. They still have to comply. 3953 02:46:00,600 --> 02:46:01,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I agree with you. 3954 02:46:02,420 --> 02:46:04,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I'm talking about, hindi kayo pwede 3955 02:46:04,400 --> 02:46:06,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: biglang pumasok, tapos 3956 02:46:06,120 --> 02:46:08,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung sino nag, sabihin nyo, pinakamaganda. 3957 02:46:09,160 --> 02:46:10,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero sa media, parang pinakasira 3958 02:46:10,600 --> 02:46:11,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ulo ang tagig. 3959 02:46:15,420 --> 02:46:16,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You don't have to have 3960 02:46:16,600 --> 02:46:17,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: intent, it's there. 3961 02:46:18,800 --> 02:46:20,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's there, Mr. GM. 3962 02:46:20,840 --> 02:46:22,600 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yeah, I have to entertain media because 3963 02:46:22,600 --> 02:46:26,540 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: action po namin yun, 3964 02:46:26,580 --> 02:46:27,280 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: na kailangan namin. 3965 02:46:27,440 --> 02:46:28,040 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yes. 3966 02:46:28,560 --> 02:46:30,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And you didn't, no problem, sir, 3967 02:46:30,760 --> 02:46:31,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but you didn't tell them. 3968 02:46:32,720 --> 02:46:34,720 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yes, sir, but you didn't tell them 3969 02:46:34,720 --> 02:46:36,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that before your time, 3970 02:46:36,880 --> 02:46:38,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they would never require the permit. 3971 02:46:39,020 --> 02:46:40,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You just told them, walang permit yan. 3972 02:46:42,100 --> 02:46:42,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You never told them. 3973 02:46:42,800 --> 02:46:43,880 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: In our meeting, 3974 02:46:44,120 --> 02:46:47,640 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: sinabi ko po sa public 3975 02:46:47,640 --> 02:46:49,000 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: course, nandun ako kay Mayor. 3976 02:46:49,940 --> 02:46:51,160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Kay Mayor, hindi sabihin yan. 3977 02:46:52,040 --> 02:46:53,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, ang taganda ng statement mo 3978 02:46:53,720 --> 02:46:54,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pag in private eh. 3979 02:46:55,400 --> 02:46:57,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ko na nga sasabihin dito yung mga binulong mo eh. 3980 02:46:57,960 --> 02:46:58,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Takala po. 3981 02:46:58,560 --> 02:47:00,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang problema, yung sa 3982 02:47:00,480 --> 02:47:02,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: media, kasi we're 3983 02:47:02,500 --> 02:47:04,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: public servants, ang tagig may reputation. 3984 02:47:05,080 --> 02:47:06,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tagig cannot speak for itself. 3985 02:47:06,500 --> 02:47:07,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Never mind my reputation. 3986 02:47:07,680 --> 02:47:08,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala po akong 3987 02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:11,780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: kinabing against tagig. 3988 02:47:11,920 --> 02:47:14,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, pag may sinabi ako sa LLDA na mali, 3989 02:47:15,040 --> 02:47:16,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: aren't you obliged to speak for 3990 02:47:16,500 --> 02:47:17,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA? 3991 02:47:18,380 --> 02:47:19,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya, basta po alam ko. 3992 02:47:20,140 --> 02:47:20,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Basta po alam ko. 3993 02:47:21,560 --> 02:47:24,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, speak for our city 3994 02:47:24,340 --> 02:47:26,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: after we were slandered and 3995 02:47:26,200 --> 02:47:28,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: maligned and pinalabas na 3996 02:47:28,560 --> 02:47:30,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kalukuhan lahat. Diba? 3997 02:47:30,540 --> 02:47:32,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung hindi pa nag-budget hearing, hindi pa 3998 02:47:32,140 --> 02:47:33,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: magtatapat ng ganito eh. 3999 02:47:34,280 --> 02:47:36,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nag-reach out ka today dahil pinatawag ka 4000 02:47:36,440 --> 02:47:38,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: namin. Pero everyday, I'm waiting 4001 02:47:38,580 --> 02:47:40,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you for reach out. Hindi kayo nag-re-reach out. 4002 02:47:42,680 --> 02:47:43,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Go ahead, ma'am. 4003 02:47:44,400 --> 02:47:46,540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, when we, when this 4004 02:47:46,540 --> 02:47:50,260 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: issue on tagig was exposed 4005 02:47:50,260 --> 02:47:52,540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: in a budget hearing by 4006 02:47:52,540 --> 02:47:54,600 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yusef, si Peter 4007 02:47:54,600 --> 02:47:56,140 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Bidger, we 4008 02:47:56,140 --> 02:47:58,260 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: already conducted an 4009 02:47:58,260 --> 02:48:00,240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: inspection and we saw 4010 02:48:00,240 --> 02:48:01,300 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: the development in the... 4011 02:48:01,300 --> 02:48:04,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Do you want me to show you my text with Sec. Lutilia and Sec. Vins? 4012 02:48:04,680 --> 02:48:06,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang sabi nila, sila na mag-uusap 4013 02:48:06,940 --> 02:48:08,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi project ng DP yun 4014 02:48:08,960 --> 02:48:10,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at DP ang dapat kumuha ng permit. 4015 02:48:10,700 --> 02:48:11,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Walang kilalaman ng tagig. 4016 02:48:13,520 --> 02:48:14,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dalawang departamento 4017 02:48:14,780 --> 02:48:16,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayong nagbabanggaan 4018 02:48:16,160 --> 02:48:18,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero sa media, ang pinapalabas nyo may problema 4019 02:48:18,920 --> 02:48:20,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang city. 4020 02:48:21,360 --> 02:48:21,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? 4021 02:48:22,600 --> 02:48:24,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano sabi ni Sec. Vins? 4022 02:48:24,380 --> 02:48:26,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Siya nakakausap kay Sec. Lutilia. Sabi ni Sec. Lutilia, 4023 02:48:26,940 --> 02:48:31,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano sabi nila? Sila nakakausap sa inyo sa LLDA. 4024 02:48:32,560 --> 02:48:34,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ma'am, under the law, 4025 02:48:34,760 --> 02:48:35,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino dapat kumuha ng permit? 4026 02:48:36,120 --> 02:48:36,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba yung proponent? 4027 02:48:38,300 --> 02:48:39,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 99.9% 4028 02:48:39,940 --> 02:48:40,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung projects doon, 4029 02:48:40,860 --> 02:48:41,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino ang proponent? 4030 02:48:42,100 --> 02:48:42,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Answer my question. 4031 02:48:43,720 --> 02:48:44,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH. 4032 02:48:44,580 --> 02:48:45,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa manual ng DPWH, 4033 02:48:45,980 --> 02:48:47,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino dapat kumuha ng permit? 4034 02:48:48,500 --> 02:48:49,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sila. 4035 02:48:49,740 --> 02:48:51,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sinong hindi kumuha ng permit? 4036 02:48:52,040 --> 02:48:52,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH. 4037 02:48:53,100 --> 02:48:54,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong kasalanan ng tagig? 4038 02:48:55,640 --> 02:48:56,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Magpatakbo ng park. 4039 02:48:57,300 --> 02:48:58,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pumayag na dalawang 4040 02:48:58,200 --> 02:48:58,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: milyon tao 4041 02:48:58,820 --> 02:48:59,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tuwing Christmas, 4042 02:49:00,020 --> 02:49:01,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: magkaroon ng kaligayahan. 4043 02:49:01,420 --> 02:49:02,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yun ang kasalanan ng tagig. 4044 02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:03,960 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Sir, based on the 4045 02:49:03,960 --> 02:49:06,020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: LLDA charter, 4046 02:49:06,180 --> 02:49:07,120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: at the very least, 4047 02:49:07,600 --> 02:49:09,040 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: all development projects 4048 02:49:09,040 --> 02:49:10,720 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: proposed by the government, 4049 02:49:11,320 --> 02:49:12,080 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: LGUs, 4050 02:49:12,260 --> 02:49:13,280 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: private enterprises, 4051 02:49:13,800 --> 02:49:14,240 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: should have been 4052 02:49:14,240 --> 02:49:15,060 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: uncoordinated. 4053 02:49:15,260 --> 02:49:15,580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Agree. 4054 02:49:15,580 --> 02:49:17,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At whose project is that? 4055 02:49:18,700 --> 02:49:19,220 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: DPWH. 4056 02:49:19,860 --> 02:49:20,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm sorry. 4057 02:49:20,280 --> 02:49:22,080 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I'm referring to 4058 02:49:22,080 --> 02:49:23,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the previous projects. 4059 02:49:23,380 --> 02:49:23,580 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes. 4060 02:49:23,940 --> 02:49:24,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: People's Park. 4061 02:49:25,080 --> 02:49:26,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, sorry. 4062 02:49:27,520 --> 02:49:27,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Those, 4063 02:49:27,800 --> 02:49:28,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we run it. 4064 02:49:28,800 --> 02:49:29,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The city runs it. 4065 02:49:29,980 --> 02:49:30,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir. 4066 02:49:30,480 --> 02:49:30,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's the, 4067 02:49:30,820 --> 02:49:31,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's the, 4068 02:49:31,340 --> 02:49:33,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the DPWH built it. 4069 02:49:35,160 --> 02:49:36,020 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: I mean, sir, 4070 02:49:36,140 --> 02:49:37,840 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: all LGUs, 4071 02:49:38,280 --> 02:49:38,800 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: yung pumapropose 4072 02:49:39,400 --> 02:49:40,100 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: projects nila, 4073 02:49:40,220 --> 02:49:40,640 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: should be 4074 02:49:40,640 --> 02:49:40,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Agree, ma'am. 4075 02:49:40,660 --> 02:49:41,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala tayong disagreement doon. 4076 02:49:42,720 --> 02:49:42,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi, 4077 02:49:43,080 --> 02:49:44,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: binabalik mo eh. 4078 02:49:44,680 --> 02:49:45,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sinasabi mo, 4079 02:49:45,400 --> 02:49:46,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: walang nag-slander sa tagig. 4080 02:49:47,520 --> 02:49:48,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't mind 4081 02:49:48,220 --> 02:49:48,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Lacson. 4082 02:49:49,020 --> 02:49:49,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's his privilege. 4083 02:49:50,240 --> 02:49:51,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That's what he thinks. 4084 02:49:52,140 --> 02:49:52,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He, 4085 02:49:52,620 --> 02:49:53,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Lacson 4086 02:49:53,260 --> 02:49:54,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is not covered 4087 02:49:54,100 --> 02:49:55,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: by the law 4088 02:49:55,120 --> 02:49:55,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that he has to be 4089 02:49:55,840 --> 02:49:56,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: politically neutral. 4090 02:49:56,740 --> 02:49:57,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, 4091 02:49:57,800 --> 02:49:59,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but the PRA, 4092 02:49:59,480 --> 02:50:00,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the DNR, 4093 02:50:01,000 --> 02:50:02,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: all of you are covered. 4094 02:50:04,500 --> 02:50:05,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're covered. 4095 02:50:06,680 --> 02:50:08,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May I ask one question 4096 02:50:08,240 --> 02:50:09,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kay Director Matias? 4097 02:50:10,160 --> 02:50:10,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Director, 4098 02:50:10,700 --> 02:50:12,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: did you order the 4099 02:50:12,060 --> 02:50:12,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: NCR 4100 02:50:12,620 --> 02:50:13,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to do a 4101 02:50:13,620 --> 02:50:14,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: inspection 4102 02:50:14,680 --> 02:50:15,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng 4103 02:50:15,480 --> 02:50:16,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: environment 4104 02:50:16,860 --> 02:50:17,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Metro Manila? 4105 02:50:19,140 --> 02:50:19,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Director Matias. 4106 02:50:20,060 --> 02:50:20,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Or, 4107 02:50:20,460 --> 02:50:20,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano yun? 4108 02:50:23,520 --> 02:50:24,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano na yun? 4109 02:50:24,560 --> 02:50:25,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Initiative na nung 4110 02:50:25,720 --> 02:50:27,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: NCR Director? 4111 02:50:27,800 --> 02:50:28,940 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Inspection, sir, 4112 02:50:28,980 --> 02:50:29,900 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: are being done by the 4113 02:50:29,900 --> 02:50:30,720 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: regional offices 4114 02:50:30,720 --> 02:50:31,820 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: based on their targets. 4115 02:50:31,960 --> 02:50:32,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, hindi mo order yun. 4116 02:50:33,500 --> 02:50:34,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nandito ba si, 4117 02:50:34,480 --> 02:50:34,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you know, 4118 02:50:34,860 --> 02:50:35,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Regional Director 4119 02:50:35,620 --> 02:50:36,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Janice Pamit? 4120 02:50:37,780 --> 02:50:38,260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Ma'am, 4121 02:50:38,380 --> 02:50:38,800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: can I have a 4122 02:50:38,800 --> 02:50:39,220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ask question? 4123 02:50:40,600 --> 02:50:41,000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Well, 4124 02:50:41,060 --> 02:50:41,700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: while she's 4125 02:50:41,700 --> 02:50:42,900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: getting seated, 4126 02:50:43,080 --> 02:50:44,280 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: can I just go back to GM? 4127 02:50:44,400 --> 02:50:45,220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Sandali, GM, pwede? 4128 02:50:45,600 --> 02:50:46,620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Senator Pia. 4129 02:50:47,480 --> 02:50:47,860 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you. 4130 02:50:47,940 --> 02:50:48,800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you, Madam Chair. 4131 02:50:49,100 --> 02:50:49,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Please. 4132 02:50:49,460 --> 02:50:50,660 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Follow-up question lang, sir. 4133 02:50:51,540 --> 02:50:52,640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Oo, kasi yung tinatanong lang 4134 02:50:52,640 --> 02:50:53,260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: naman ni, 4135 02:50:53,260 --> 02:50:53,540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ano, 4136 02:50:53,680 --> 02:50:54,640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ni Senator Allan 4137 02:50:54,640 --> 02:50:55,020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: is, 4138 02:50:55,520 --> 02:50:56,560 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: bakit in public 4139 02:50:56,560 --> 02:50:57,640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: pinapalabasin, 4140 02:50:57,800 --> 02:50:58,140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: nyo, 4141 02:50:58,320 --> 02:50:59,640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na may masasamang 4142 02:50:59,640 --> 02:51:00,920 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: nangyayari sa Taguig? 4143 02:51:01,040 --> 02:51:02,060 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ay, wala po. 4144 02:51:02,180 --> 02:51:02,680 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala po ako. 4145 02:51:02,800 --> 02:51:03,300 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Kaya nga, 4146 02:51:03,340 --> 02:51:03,680 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: hindi po ako 4147 02:51:03,680 --> 02:51:04,380 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: saseltanin. 4148 02:51:04,660 --> 02:51:05,740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I just wanted to 4149 02:51:05,740 --> 02:51:06,420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: point out, sir, 4150 02:51:06,500 --> 02:51:07,340 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: so that I can give you 4151 02:51:07,340 --> 02:51:09,080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: an opportunity to explain 4152 02:51:09,080 --> 02:51:10,640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na bakit ang 4153 02:51:10,640 --> 02:51:12,840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sariling Facebook page 4154 02:51:12,840 --> 02:51:13,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng LLDA 4155 02:51:13,880 --> 02:51:14,960 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: punong-puno 4156 02:51:14,960 --> 02:51:15,980 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng mga update 4157 02:51:15,980 --> 02:51:16,760 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sa mga 4158 02:51:16,760 --> 02:51:17,780 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: investigation nyo 4159 02:51:17,780 --> 02:51:18,280 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sa Taguig. 4160 02:51:18,560 --> 02:51:19,220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Salamat, no? 4161 02:51:19,400 --> 02:51:20,400 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Pinapaalam nyo sa public, 4162 02:51:20,560 --> 02:51:21,420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: LLDA, 4163 02:51:21,420 --> 02:51:22,020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: nag-hain ng 4164 02:51:22,020 --> 02:51:22,720 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ex-partices 4165 02:51:22,720 --> 02:51:23,660 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and this is order 4166 02:51:23,660 --> 02:51:24,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: laban sa illegal 4167 02:51:24,880 --> 02:51:25,580 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: development, 4168 02:51:26,100 --> 02:51:26,600 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: back-filling, 4169 02:51:26,720 --> 02:51:27,680 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: reclamation activities 4170 02:51:27,800 --> 02:51:28,580 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sa Taguig City. 4171 02:51:29,020 --> 02:51:30,240 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Tapos, blow-by-blow po yun. 4172 02:51:30,300 --> 02:51:30,900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Are you aware 4173 02:51:30,900 --> 02:51:31,920 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na may ganito kayo? 4174 02:51:32,020 --> 02:51:32,640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Hindi ko nyo aware? 4175 02:51:33,400 --> 02:51:33,840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, sino nyo 4176 02:51:33,840 --> 02:51:34,360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: may decide 4177 02:51:34,360 --> 02:51:35,180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng mga posting nyo 4178 02:51:35,180 --> 02:51:35,740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sa Facebook? 4179 02:51:36,620 --> 02:51:37,560 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Meron daw po, sir. 4180 02:51:37,820 --> 02:51:39,160 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Hindi ko nyo aware, sir. 4181 02:51:40,740 --> 02:51:41,700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Tapos, pag pinikap 4182 02:51:41,700 --> 02:51:42,320 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng media yun, 4183 02:51:42,420 --> 02:51:43,060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sisisiin nyo pa 4184 02:51:43,060 --> 02:51:43,460 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: yung media. 4185 02:51:44,300 --> 02:51:45,200 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: O, so, nandyan po yan. 4186 02:51:45,300 --> 02:51:46,000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And then, may kasunod 4187 02:51:46,000 --> 02:51:46,300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: pa yan. 4188 02:51:47,980 --> 02:51:48,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: LLDA joins 4189 02:51:48,880 --> 02:51:50,120 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: inter-agency inspection 4190 02:51:50,120 --> 02:51:50,860 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: along Taguig 4191 02:51:50,860 --> 02:51:51,300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: lakeshore 4192 02:51:51,300 --> 02:51:52,120 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: order stop 4193 02:51:52,120 --> 02:51:53,320 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to back-filling activity. 4194 02:51:53,720 --> 02:51:54,140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Sige po, 4195 02:51:54,260 --> 02:51:54,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: assuming, sir, 4196 02:51:55,000 --> 02:51:55,800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na this is really 4197 02:51:55,800 --> 02:51:56,980 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: important for you 4198 02:51:56,980 --> 02:51:57,280 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to 4199 02:51:57,800 --> 02:51:59,020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: inform the public 4200 02:51:59,020 --> 02:51:59,420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: about. 4201 02:51:59,840 --> 02:52:01,180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Pero, yung mga 4202 02:52:01,180 --> 02:52:02,240 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sinabi nyo may 4203 02:52:02,240 --> 02:52:02,840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: cease and desist 4204 02:52:02,840 --> 02:52:03,620 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: din kayo sa Angon 4205 02:52:03,620 --> 02:52:04,060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: or Rizal, 4206 02:52:04,360 --> 02:52:05,080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: meron yan sa 4207 02:52:05,080 --> 02:52:06,620 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: website nyo? 4208 02:52:07,240 --> 02:52:07,700 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala ho. 4209 02:52:08,780 --> 02:52:09,200 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Meron? 4210 02:52:09,900 --> 02:52:10,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Hindi nyo alam. 4211 02:52:11,240 --> 02:52:12,100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Yung sa Muntinlupa, 4212 02:52:12,480 --> 02:52:13,160 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: pinosh nyo rin 4213 02:52:13,160 --> 02:52:14,100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: yung blow-by-blow 4214 02:52:14,100 --> 02:52:15,200 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na ginagawa nyo doon? 4215 02:52:16,520 --> 02:52:16,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Meron? 4216 02:52:17,880 --> 02:52:18,800 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala din po, sir. 4217 02:52:19,120 --> 02:52:20,060 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Wala din po, ma'am. 4218 02:52:20,400 --> 02:52:21,000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, bakit? 4219 02:52:21,120 --> 02:52:22,160 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why the special interest? 4220 02:52:22,260 --> 02:52:22,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Wala akong problema. 4221 02:52:23,420 --> 02:52:24,160 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: You want to inform 4222 02:52:24,160 --> 02:52:25,000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: everybody of what 4223 02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:25,740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: your staff is doing 4224 02:52:25,740 --> 02:52:26,600 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: from 8 a.m. 4225 02:52:26,640 --> 02:52:27,260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to 5 p.m.? 4226 02:52:27,260 --> 02:52:27,780 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Go ahead. 4227 02:52:27,800 --> 02:52:29,200 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Ang tinatanong lang 4228 02:52:29,200 --> 02:52:29,900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ni Sen. Alan 4229 02:52:29,900 --> 02:52:30,780 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: napakasimple. 4230 02:52:31,940 --> 02:52:32,820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why do you make it 4231 02:52:32,820 --> 02:52:33,860 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: appear in public 4232 02:52:33,860 --> 02:52:35,740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na ang daming 4233 02:52:35,740 --> 02:52:36,500 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: may masasamang 4234 02:52:36,500 --> 02:52:37,480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: nangyayari sa Taguig? 4235 02:52:38,220 --> 02:52:38,820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And if you don't, 4236 02:52:38,900 --> 02:52:40,020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: if that is not the intention, 4237 02:52:40,160 --> 02:52:41,140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: then why publicize 4238 02:52:41,140 --> 02:52:42,140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: for Taguig 4239 02:52:42,140 --> 02:52:43,020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and you don't publicize 4240 02:52:43,020 --> 02:52:44,100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: your work in other places? 4241 02:52:44,240 --> 02:52:45,440 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why the special interest? 4242 02:52:47,320 --> 02:52:48,220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why the special interest? 4243 02:52:48,280 --> 02:52:48,860 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Just answer that 4244 02:52:48,860 --> 02:52:49,480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: so we can go on 4245 02:52:49,480 --> 02:52:50,220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to the next question. 4246 02:52:51,680 --> 02:52:53,020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why the special interest? 4247 02:52:53,860 --> 02:52:54,620 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Oo po, hindi ako 4248 02:52:54,620 --> 02:52:55,980 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: personal na rin kasabi 4249 02:52:55,980 --> 02:52:57,780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: ng against Taguig. 4250 02:52:57,800 --> 02:52:59,380 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Kung may nagpapos man yan, 4251 02:52:59,520 --> 02:53:00,780 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: baka hindi po kami. 4252 02:53:03,160 --> 02:53:04,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'll add to that, sir. 4253 02:53:05,000 --> 02:53:05,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, pinost nyo lahat 4254 02:53:05,780 --> 02:53:06,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng inspection nyo. 4255 02:53:06,960 --> 02:53:07,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa inspection nyo, 4256 02:53:08,280 --> 02:53:09,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may nakita kayo doon 4257 02:53:09,240 --> 02:53:09,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na commercial 4258 02:53:09,740 --> 02:53:11,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: o lahat for the public? 4259 02:53:13,300 --> 02:53:14,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pinos nyo ba? 4260 02:53:14,640 --> 02:53:15,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na after, 4261 02:53:15,580 --> 02:53:16,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pakilakasan lang, ma'am. 4262 02:53:16,720 --> 02:53:17,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May nakita kayo doon 4263 02:53:17,760 --> 02:53:18,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: commercial of any 4264 02:53:18,860 --> 02:53:19,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or lahat for public? 4265 02:53:20,520 --> 02:53:21,000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Sandali, ha? 4266 02:53:21,000 --> 02:53:21,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Sandali, sandali. 4267 02:53:21,900 --> 02:53:22,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Pwede mo ba yung mic 4268 02:53:22,880 --> 02:53:23,920 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: na nasa harap ni 4269 02:53:23,920 --> 02:53:25,940 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Atty. Mata sa inyo 4270 02:53:25,940 --> 02:53:26,940 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: so that you're not sharing? 4271 02:53:26,940 --> 02:53:27,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tony Salonga, 4272 02:53:28,060 --> 02:53:29,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I know water is scarce 4273 02:53:29,100 --> 02:53:29,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but yung mic, 4274 02:53:29,860 --> 02:53:30,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka pwede natin 4275 02:53:30,660 --> 02:53:32,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: i-share. 4276 02:53:33,320 --> 02:53:34,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yeah, thank you, sir. 4277 02:53:34,200 --> 02:53:34,460 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Kayo na. 4278 02:53:35,160 --> 02:53:35,580 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ma'am muna. 4279 02:53:37,960 --> 02:53:39,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ma'am, 4280 02:53:39,420 --> 02:53:40,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may nakita kayong commercial 4281 02:53:40,540 --> 02:53:42,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon sa Taguig Lakeshore 4282 02:53:42,360 --> 02:53:44,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi dinadamay yung private. 4283 02:53:44,860 --> 02:53:46,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung pinost ni Senator Lacson 4284 02:53:46,540 --> 02:53:47,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na Taguig daw 4285 02:53:47,680 --> 02:53:48,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang nagre-reclaim. 4286 02:53:49,740 --> 02:53:50,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Baliktad, 4287 02:53:50,360 --> 02:53:50,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang Taguig City 4288 02:53:50,980 --> 02:53:51,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: has been writing them 4289 02:53:51,940 --> 02:53:52,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to stop, di ba? 4290 02:53:53,000 --> 02:53:53,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 4291 02:53:54,000 --> 02:53:54,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Doon sa parks 4292 02:53:55,480 --> 02:53:56,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that are run by the city, 4293 02:53:56,940 --> 02:53:57,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may nakita kayong 4294 02:53:57,800 --> 02:53:59,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: malalaking commercial, 4295 02:53:59,760 --> 02:54:00,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may Jollibee doon, 4296 02:54:00,680 --> 02:54:01,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: McDonald's. 4297 02:54:01,440 --> 02:54:02,120 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Public ano po. 4298 02:54:02,460 --> 02:54:03,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Public lahat, di ba? 4299 02:54:03,820 --> 02:54:05,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They're all parks, right? 4300 02:54:05,280 --> 02:54:05,540 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Yes. 4301 02:54:05,700 --> 02:54:05,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 4302 02:54:06,340 --> 02:54:07,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May nakita kayo 4303 02:54:07,360 --> 02:54:08,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa research na tinituluan yun 4304 02:54:08,860 --> 02:54:09,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in a private 4305 02:54:09,480 --> 02:54:10,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or even in the name of Taguig? 4306 02:54:11,980 --> 02:54:12,400 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Wala po. 4307 02:54:12,420 --> 02:54:12,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala, di ba? 4308 02:54:13,120 --> 02:54:13,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 4309 02:54:13,620 --> 02:54:14,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ba't wala sa website na yan? 4310 02:54:15,860 --> 02:54:17,380 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Meron po kaming nireport 4311 02:54:17,380 --> 02:54:18,340 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: na there are some 4312 02:54:18,340 --> 02:54:18,940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: homeowners association. 4313 02:54:19,540 --> 02:54:19,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. 4314 02:54:19,980 --> 02:54:21,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nireport nyo lahat na masama. 4315 02:54:21,840 --> 02:54:22,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung nakita nyo 4316 02:54:22,740 --> 02:54:23,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa investigasyon nyo 4317 02:54:23,820 --> 02:54:24,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na mabuti, 4318 02:54:24,560 --> 02:54:25,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi nyo nireport. 4319 02:54:26,060 --> 02:54:26,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, what if 4320 02:54:26,940 --> 02:54:28,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ilalagay ko ngayon 4321 02:54:28,100 --> 02:54:30,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Facebook ko 4322 02:54:30,480 --> 02:54:32,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lahat ng mali nyong sagot 4323 02:54:32,440 --> 02:54:34,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero may tama kayong sagot 4324 02:54:34,340 --> 02:54:35,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ko nilagay. 4325 02:54:35,100 --> 02:54:35,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How would you feel? 4326 02:54:36,720 --> 02:54:37,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Would that be fair? 4327 02:54:40,080 --> 02:54:42,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Personally, I don't... 4328 02:54:42,100 --> 02:54:43,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I ask Vince the same thing. 4329 02:54:43,320 --> 02:54:44,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I ask Vince the same thing. 4330 02:54:44,800 --> 02:54:45,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What was your report? 4331 02:54:46,080 --> 02:54:46,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He said, 4332 02:54:46,460 --> 02:54:47,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: walang ghost sa Taguig. 4333 02:54:47,940 --> 02:54:49,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nung inupakan ni Senator Lacson, 4334 02:54:49,480 --> 02:54:50,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: biglang may ghost, 4335 02:54:50,300 --> 02:54:51,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: baka daw meron. 4336 02:54:51,600 --> 02:54:51,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sinabi, 4337 02:54:52,060 --> 02:54:52,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Leyte, 4338 02:54:52,880 --> 02:54:53,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kinuha ko yung report. 4339 02:54:53,940 --> 02:54:54,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong nakalagay sa report? 4340 02:54:55,580 --> 02:54:56,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The contractor in Leyte, 4341 02:54:56,940 --> 02:54:58,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the contractor in Taguig, 4342 02:54:58,160 --> 02:54:59,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he got messed up sa billing 4343 02:54:59,320 --> 02:55:00,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but the project was done. 4344 02:55:01,680 --> 02:55:02,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But yet, 4345 02:55:02,100 --> 02:55:02,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH 4346 02:55:02,740 --> 02:55:04,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doesn't have the gall 4347 02:55:04,360 --> 02:55:05,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to say na, 4348 02:55:05,300 --> 02:55:05,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi, wala. 4349 02:55:08,060 --> 02:55:08,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Same sa inyo. 4350 02:55:09,100 --> 02:55:10,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bakit pa kayo takot na takot 4351 02:55:10,380 --> 02:55:11,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na magsabi lang na 4352 02:55:11,540 --> 02:55:12,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not asking you to lie. 4353 02:55:13,340 --> 02:55:14,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not asking you to compliment. 4354 02:55:15,000 --> 02:55:16,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm asking you to give facts. 4355 02:55:17,260 --> 02:55:18,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Or is that too much to ask? 4356 02:55:18,940 --> 02:55:19,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Is it too much to ask 4357 02:55:19,880 --> 02:55:20,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that LLD say, 4358 02:55:20,960 --> 02:55:21,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sorry, PRA, 4359 02:55:22,160 --> 02:55:23,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala kayong jurisdiction dito? 4360 02:55:23,900 --> 02:55:24,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Is it too much to ask 4361 02:55:24,980 --> 02:55:26,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to post your report? 4362 02:55:26,460 --> 02:55:27,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung ano nakita nyo doon? 4363 02:55:28,400 --> 02:55:28,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh. 4364 02:55:29,140 --> 02:55:29,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, 4365 02:55:29,480 --> 02:55:31,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Madam Chair, 4366 02:55:31,460 --> 02:55:31,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ito po. 4367 02:55:32,960 --> 02:55:34,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Director Janice, 4368 02:55:34,840 --> 02:55:35,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung inyong inspection, 4369 02:55:36,040 --> 02:55:36,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: buong Metro Manila? 4370 02:55:37,980 --> 02:55:38,500 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Yes po, 4371 02:55:38,580 --> 02:55:39,600 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: meron pong target 4372 02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:40,200 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: ang 4373 02:55:40,200 --> 02:55:42,800 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: regions with regard to 4374 02:55:42,800 --> 02:55:44,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ano-anong area 4375 02:55:44,020 --> 02:55:45,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang pina-inspect niya? 4376 02:55:46,600 --> 02:55:48,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And over what period? 4377 02:55:50,360 --> 02:55:51,600 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Meron po kaming 4378 02:55:51,600 --> 02:55:52,640 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: targets, 4379 02:55:52,800 --> 02:55:53,480 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Senator. 4380 02:55:53,800 --> 02:55:54,120 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: So, 4381 02:55:54,980 --> 02:55:56,260 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: we can provide po 4382 02:55:56,260 --> 02:55:56,780 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: the 4383 02:55:56,780 --> 02:55:58,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Just in front of 4384 02:55:58,460 --> 02:55:59,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Secretary right now. 4385 02:55:59,920 --> 02:56:00,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ano yung mga 4386 02:56:00,460 --> 02:56:01,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pina-inspect nyo 4387 02:56:01,260 --> 02:56:02,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: itong last month lang, 4388 02:56:02,600 --> 02:56:02,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: halimbawa? 4389 02:56:03,500 --> 02:56:04,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Itong October? 4390 02:56:05,760 --> 02:56:07,040 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Meron pong September 4391 02:56:07,040 --> 02:56:07,460 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: for 4392 02:56:07,460 --> 02:56:07,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, October. 4393 02:56:08,060 --> 02:56:08,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong pina-inspect nyo 4394 02:56:08,960 --> 02:56:09,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: itong October? 4395 02:56:10,160 --> 02:56:10,820 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Tagig po. 4396 02:56:10,940 --> 02:56:11,320 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: September. 4397 02:56:11,540 --> 02:56:12,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tagig lang? 4398 02:56:12,140 --> 02:56:12,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa buong Metro Manila, 4399 02:56:13,000 --> 02:56:14,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tagig lang pina-inspect mo? 4400 02:56:14,200 --> 02:56:14,960 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Puntin lupa po 4401 02:56:14,960 --> 02:56:15,640 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: in September. 4402 02:56:16,100 --> 02:56:16,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 4403 02:56:16,660 --> 02:56:17,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, buong tagig, 4404 02:56:17,860 --> 02:56:18,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: isa lang. 4405 02:56:20,900 --> 02:56:21,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Buong September, 4406 02:56:21,960 --> 02:56:22,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: buong October, 4407 02:56:22,760 --> 02:56:23,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tagig lang pina-inspect mo? 4408 02:56:24,620 --> 02:56:24,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ito, 4409 02:56:24,940 --> 02:56:26,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Department, 4410 02:56:26,840 --> 02:56:27,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pursuant to 4411 02:56:27,940 --> 02:56:29,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Philippine Environment Impact, 4412 02:56:29,960 --> 02:56:30,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Philippine Clean Air, 4413 02:56:31,120 --> 02:56:32,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Philippine Clean Water, 4414 02:56:32,400 --> 02:56:34,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Toxic Chemical and Hazardous Waste 4415 02:56:34,300 --> 02:56:35,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and Nuclear Waste. 4416 02:56:35,880 --> 02:56:37,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You are hereby directed 4417 02:56:37,060 --> 02:56:38,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to conduct inspection, 4418 02:56:39,320 --> 02:56:40,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ECC condition, 4419 02:56:40,440 --> 02:56:42,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: water toxic hazard, 4420 02:56:42,500 --> 02:56:43,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: possible imminent pollution, 4421 02:56:44,040 --> 02:56:44,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: industrial establishment, 4422 02:56:45,400 --> 02:56:46,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hotel, hospital, 4423 02:56:46,400 --> 02:56:46,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: schools, 4424 02:56:46,740 --> 02:56:47,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Metro Manila. 4425 02:56:48,540 --> 02:56:49,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero sa heading, 4426 02:56:49,980 --> 02:56:51,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung permit niya to go out 4427 02:56:51,340 --> 02:56:52,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is only Tagig, 4428 02:56:53,620 --> 02:56:54,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: park, 4429 02:56:54,580 --> 02:56:54,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tagig, 4430 02:56:54,940 --> 02:56:56,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lakeshore Community Park, 4431 02:56:56,540 --> 02:56:58,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: other adjacent nearby establishments 4432 02:56:58,500 --> 02:56:59,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Tagig City. 4433 02:56:59,720 --> 02:56:59,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron. 4434 02:57:00,040 --> 02:57:01,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, where else in Metro Manila 4435 02:57:01,640 --> 02:57:03,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in October pina-inspect mo? 4436 02:57:03,400 --> 02:57:04,600 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Lahat po ng cities yan, 4437 02:57:04,660 --> 02:57:05,200 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: meron po yan. 4438 02:57:05,220 --> 02:57:05,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no. 4439 02:57:05,520 --> 02:57:07,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm talking about October. 4440 02:57:07,340 --> 02:57:07,820 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Yes, po. 4441 02:57:07,960 --> 02:57:09,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lahat ng cities meron ka. 4442 02:57:09,200 --> 02:57:09,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, meron po yan. 4443 02:57:09,480 --> 02:57:10,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, name one or two? 4444 02:57:12,380 --> 02:57:13,080 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Lahat po. 4445 02:57:13,320 --> 02:57:14,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Name one or two? 4446 02:57:14,780 --> 02:57:16,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And what establishment specifically? 4447 02:57:17,720 --> 02:57:18,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You signed it, 4448 02:57:18,660 --> 02:57:19,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so you know. 4449 02:57:19,820 --> 02:57:20,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, 4450 02:57:20,840 --> 02:57:22,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: let's say in Puntin lupa 4451 02:57:22,240 --> 02:57:23,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or Pasig, 4452 02:57:23,800 --> 02:57:24,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano pina-inspect mo? 4453 02:57:24,940 --> 02:57:26,940 LLDA Lawyer Marian Soriano: Maraming senator. 4454 02:57:26,940 --> 02:57:27,580 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Maraming senator. 4455 02:57:28,600 --> 02:57:29,120 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: For 4456 02:57:29,120 --> 02:57:31,600 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Puntin lupa 4457 02:57:31,600 --> 02:57:31,940 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: to inspections 4458 02:57:32,520 --> 02:57:32,940 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: conducted. 4459 02:57:34,640 --> 02:57:35,420 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Pero sir, 4460 02:57:35,860 --> 02:57:37,000 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: September 14 po yung latest. 4461 02:57:37,000 --> 02:57:37,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What established nga? 4462 02:57:38,600 --> 02:57:40,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm talking about October, ma'am. 4463 02:57:41,700 --> 02:57:42,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, October, Tagig lang. 4464 02:57:43,320 --> 02:57:44,680 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Maraming po yan, Mr. 4465 02:57:44,680 --> 02:57:45,640 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Kaya nga, then name one. 4466 02:57:46,540 --> 02:57:47,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Marami pala, then name one. 4467 02:57:48,180 --> 02:57:48,680 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: For all, 4468 02:57:49,040 --> 02:57:50,720 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: multimedia po yan, 4469 02:57:50,980 --> 02:57:52,060 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Mr. Senator. 4470 02:57:52,200 --> 02:57:53,380 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: That's why marami po yung 4471 02:57:53,380 --> 02:57:54,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What do you mean multimedia? 4472 02:57:54,080 --> 02:57:54,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Five. 4473 02:57:54,420 --> 02:57:54,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Five. 4474 02:57:54,940 --> 02:57:57,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This isn't a generic look 4475 02:57:57,640 --> 02:57:58,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: anywhere in Taguig. 4476 02:57:59,000 --> 02:57:59,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You stated 4477 02:57:59,780 --> 02:58:02,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taguig Lakeshore Park 4478 02:58:02,520 --> 02:58:03,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and other adjacent 4479 02:58:03,760 --> 02:58:04,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nearby establishment. 4480 02:58:05,540 --> 02:58:06,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I want to know 4481 02:58:06,700 --> 02:58:08,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: where pa in Metro Manila 4482 02:58:08,380 --> 02:58:10,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: did you ask them to look? 4483 02:58:10,760 --> 02:58:11,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you ask them to look 4484 02:58:11,860 --> 02:58:12,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at the malls? 4485 02:58:12,700 --> 02:58:13,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you ask them to look 4486 02:58:13,580 --> 02:58:15,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at Pasig River? 4487 02:58:15,720 --> 02:58:17,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you ask them to look where? 4488 02:58:20,740 --> 02:58:21,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So that I know 4489 02:58:21,480 --> 02:58:22,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if you're looking everywhere 4490 02:58:22,460 --> 02:58:23,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or coincidence lang to 4491 02:58:23,640 --> 02:58:24,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na lahat kayong 4492 02:58:24,920 --> 02:58:26,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ahensya ng gobyerno, 4493 02:58:27,000 --> 02:58:28,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: biglang gustong pumunta ng 4494 02:58:28,680 --> 02:58:29,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taguig Lakeshore Park, 4495 02:58:30,060 --> 02:58:30,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: which you're all welcome. 4496 02:58:31,880 --> 02:58:32,900 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Tama po, Mr. Senator, 4497 02:58:33,020 --> 02:58:33,900 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: we have Pasig, 4498 02:58:34,020 --> 02:58:34,740 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: meron pong Manila. 4499 02:58:35,300 --> 02:58:36,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige, ano sa Pasig 4500 02:58:36,300 --> 02:58:37,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang pinainspeksyon mo? 4501 02:58:41,440 --> 02:58:42,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's not at the top of your head. 4502 02:58:43,120 --> 02:58:43,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, 4503 02:58:44,720 --> 02:58:45,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this isn't, ano ha, 4504 02:58:45,780 --> 02:58:47,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this isn't, 4505 02:58:47,120 --> 02:58:48,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taguig is bigger than Manila 4506 02:58:48,780 --> 02:58:50,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and you didn't ask them 4507 02:58:50,960 --> 02:58:52,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to inspect anywhere else 4508 02:58:52,180 --> 02:58:52,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Taguig. 4509 02:58:53,060 --> 02:58:54,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You just asked them 4510 02:58:54,120 --> 02:58:54,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to inspect this. 4511 02:58:54,920 --> 02:58:55,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. 4512 02:58:57,380 --> 02:58:57,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yeah. 4513 02:58:58,300 --> 02:58:58,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ma'am, 4514 02:58:59,000 --> 02:59:00,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinatanong what triggered? 4515 02:59:00,240 --> 02:59:00,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ma'am, 4516 02:59:00,640 --> 02:59:01,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit yung Lakeshore? 4517 02:59:01,580 --> 02:59:01,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, 4518 02:59:01,840 --> 02:59:03,000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: why Lakeshore, no? 4519 02:59:03,080 --> 02:59:03,900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because alam ni 4520 02:59:03,900 --> 02:59:04,960 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Secretary to, 4521 02:59:05,060 --> 02:59:05,820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: dahil ever since, 4522 02:59:05,920 --> 02:59:06,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: yung mga concerns ko 4523 02:59:06,880 --> 02:59:09,260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: on environmental pollution, 4524 02:59:09,500 --> 02:59:10,260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: yung discarding 4525 02:59:10,260 --> 02:59:11,680 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: of mga medical waste, 4526 02:59:11,800 --> 02:59:11,900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: di ba, 4527 02:59:11,980 --> 02:59:13,000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: you know all that 4528 02:59:13,000 --> 02:59:14,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and I won't be 4529 02:59:14,880 --> 02:59:15,800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: taking up the time na 4530 02:59:15,800 --> 02:59:16,560 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I'll submit na lang 4531 02:59:16,560 --> 02:59:17,840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: yung ating implementation 4532 02:59:17,840 --> 02:59:18,560 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng ating 4533 02:59:18,560 --> 02:59:21,980 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: extended producer's 4534 02:59:21,980 --> 02:59:22,580 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: responsibility. 4535 02:59:22,840 --> 02:59:24,120 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Andami kong specifics diyan. 4536 02:59:24,200 --> 02:59:24,900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Those of you who've been here, 4537 02:59:24,920 --> 02:59:26,220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: kinimay ko yan. 4538 02:59:26,320 --> 02:59:27,480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I'm also curious 4539 02:59:27,480 --> 02:59:28,700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: what's going on 4540 02:59:28,700 --> 02:59:29,220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: in Lakeshore 4541 02:59:29,220 --> 02:59:30,540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: that it had to be 4542 02:59:30,540 --> 02:59:31,600 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: spelled out specifically 4543 02:59:31,600 --> 02:59:33,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and what triggered it? 4544 02:59:33,540 --> 02:59:34,820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Did the Secretary ask you? 4545 02:59:34,960 --> 02:59:36,260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Did LLDA ask you? 4546 02:59:36,340 --> 02:59:37,060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Did somebody else 4547 02:59:37,060 --> 02:59:37,840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ask you to do it? 4548 02:59:37,940 --> 02:59:38,680 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Pakidagdag na lang 4549 02:59:38,680 --> 02:59:39,740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: sa mga sagot nyo. 4550 02:59:39,840 --> 02:59:40,240 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you. 4551 02:59:42,040 --> 02:59:42,520 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Kamay, 4552 02:59:42,580 --> 02:59:43,320 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Atty. Janice. 4553 02:59:43,380 --> 02:59:43,880 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: For example, 4554 02:59:44,020 --> 02:59:44,740 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: sa Pasig, 4555 02:59:45,280 --> 02:59:46,140 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: we have 4556 02:59:46,140 --> 02:59:47,900 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: a xenome 4557 02:59:47,900 --> 02:59:48,560 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Chinmi 4558 02:59:48,560 --> 02:59:50,100 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: incorporated. 4559 02:59:50,700 --> 02:59:51,480 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: This one is 4560 02:59:51,480 --> 02:59:52,800 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: in Capitolio, Pasig. 4561 02:59:54,420 --> 02:59:54,900 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: So, 4562 02:59:54,920 --> 02:59:58,040 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: September 14, 4563 02:59:58,160 --> 02:59:58,220 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: 2026, 4564 02:59:59,020 --> 02:59:59,820 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: we also conducted 4565 02:59:59,820 --> 03:00:00,020 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: ... 4566 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:03,860 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Transfer Station, IPM Construction in Taguig also. 4567 03:00:05,660 --> 03:00:10,700 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: For Area 4, kasi po yung pong NCR, we have four areas. 4568 03:00:10,880 --> 03:00:12,840 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Hinati po yung NCR into four areas. 4569 03:00:12,980 --> 03:00:14,360 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: So lahat po ng areas yun. 4570 03:00:14,820 --> 03:00:15,880 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Meron pong inspection. 4571 03:00:16,460 --> 03:00:20,600 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: The inspection is with regard to the mandates of EMB, 4572 03:00:20,600 --> 03:00:24,980 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: their compliances to Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, 4573 03:00:25,140 --> 03:00:28,120 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Toxic and Hazardous Waste Act, Solid Waste Management Act. 4574 03:00:28,120 --> 03:00:30,280 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: So yun po yung mga sine-check po na. 4575 03:00:30,300 --> 03:00:31,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I support that. 4576 03:00:31,360 --> 03:00:40,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang tanong ko, do you know how big the lakeshore area is in Taguig? 4577 03:00:41,140 --> 03:00:41,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This part. 4578 03:00:42,820 --> 03:00:43,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi po, sir. 4579 03:00:43,440 --> 03:00:49,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's probably less than 10 hectares compared to 1,300 hectares outside the dike. 4580 03:00:50,280 --> 03:00:54,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So why inspect the 10 hectares and not inspect the 1,300 hectares? 4581 03:00:56,660 --> 03:00:57,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What's the trigger? 4582 03:00:57,620 --> 03:00:58,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What's the reason? 4583 03:00:59,300 --> 03:00:59,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't mind. 4584 03:00:59,920 --> 03:01:00,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nabasa sa dyaryo. 4585 03:01:00,920 --> 03:01:02,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So it's your duty. 4586 03:01:02,900 --> 03:01:03,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? 4587 03:01:04,480 --> 03:01:10,700 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Sir, Mr. Senator, yun pong there was an inspection. 4588 03:01:10,940 --> 03:01:13,620 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Nakasama po kami ng Office of the Ombudsman. 4589 03:01:14,700 --> 03:01:18,400 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: So they requested us to be there. 4590 03:01:19,040 --> 03:01:20,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So why didn't you tell me from the start? 4591 03:01:21,560 --> 03:01:22,620 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Meron po kasi kaming... 4592 03:01:24,480 --> 03:01:26,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When was that? 4593 03:01:26,160 --> 03:01:27,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When was that? 4594 03:01:27,620 --> 03:01:29,800 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: October 2, if I'm not mistaken. 4595 03:01:29,920 --> 03:01:31,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then you went back on your own. 4596 03:01:32,440 --> 03:01:32,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, po. 4597 03:01:33,020 --> 03:01:34,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Why did you go back on your own? 4598 03:01:36,620 --> 03:01:37,980 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: I bumalik po doon sa site. 4599 03:01:38,320 --> 03:01:41,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, you said nirequest kayo ng Ombudsman, sumama kayo. 4600 03:01:41,800 --> 03:01:42,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, po. 4601 03:01:42,060 --> 03:01:43,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dapat naman, sumunod sa Ombudsman. 4602 03:01:44,380 --> 03:01:45,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That was October 2. 4603 03:01:45,420 --> 03:01:47,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: E bumalik kayo ng October 13. 4604 03:01:47,840 --> 03:01:48,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bakit kayo bumalik? 4605 03:01:52,500 --> 03:01:55,260 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Kasi po, nung October 2, 4606 03:01:57,620 --> 03:02:01,240 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: nung October 2 po, 4607 03:02:01,340 --> 03:02:04,480 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: hindi po agad, hindi po na-complete yung inspection. 4608 03:02:05,500 --> 03:02:07,180 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: That's why they look for, 4609 03:02:07,760 --> 03:02:10,900 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: yun po, para makompleto po yung aming ICI, 4610 03:02:11,000 --> 03:02:11,940 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: or yung report po namin. 4611 03:02:12,060 --> 03:02:15,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And usually, kapag ka-gobyerno ang inspect nyo, 4612 03:02:16,220 --> 03:02:19,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you don't want the cooperation of that LGU. 4613 03:02:20,540 --> 03:02:22,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This is a travel order. 4614 03:02:23,120 --> 03:02:26,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You show up there without any communication, 4615 03:02:26,140 --> 03:02:27,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: without any... 4616 03:02:27,620 --> 03:02:28,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: without anything. 4617 03:02:29,580 --> 03:02:30,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's okay if it's a surprise. 4618 03:02:31,800 --> 03:02:32,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's an open park. 4619 03:02:32,860 --> 03:02:33,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You can go anytime. 4620 03:02:34,160 --> 03:02:35,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You don't even need this. 4621 03:02:35,280 --> 03:02:36,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You can go to inspect if it's ano. 4622 03:02:37,020 --> 03:02:39,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But if it's an inspection, a government-to-government, 4623 03:02:40,800 --> 03:02:43,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: why no coordination with the LGU? 4624 03:02:44,720 --> 03:02:46,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They just showed up there and said na meron neto. 4625 03:02:48,680 --> 03:02:49,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Why? 4626 03:02:50,280 --> 03:02:53,000 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: There are instances, Mr. Senator, 4627 03:02:53,000 --> 03:02:55,000 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: that hindi po... 4628 03:02:55,740 --> 03:02:57,000 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Since this is... 4629 03:02:57,620 --> 03:02:59,160 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: People's Park, as you said naman po. 4630 03:02:59,360 --> 03:03:02,020 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: So, we... 4631 03:03:02,020 --> 03:03:07,160 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: I think the inspectors need not to coordinate further with the... 4632 03:03:07,160 --> 03:03:09,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then sana hindi na kayo nagpakilala at nagpakita na ganito. 4633 03:03:09,860 --> 03:03:12,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sana pumunta na lang kayo as a... 4634 03:03:12,240 --> 03:03:14,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: someone who wants to enjoy the park. 4635 03:03:14,280 --> 03:03:15,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tinignan nyo yung CR, tinignan nyo lahat. 4636 03:03:16,640 --> 03:03:18,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? You're gonna show up there with this 4637 03:03:18,460 --> 03:03:19,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: while everything is happening. 4638 03:03:20,620 --> 03:03:22,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, if you're an ordinary tagik employee, 4639 03:03:23,420 --> 03:03:25,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pupunta ombudsman by themselves. 4640 03:03:25,140 --> 03:03:27,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then pupunta ombudsman LLDA. 4641 03:03:27,620 --> 03:03:29,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then pupunta PRA. 4642 03:03:29,620 --> 03:03:31,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then pupunta landman. 4643 03:03:31,200 --> 03:03:31,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lahat ganito. 4644 03:03:32,460 --> 03:03:35,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero the rest of the Laguna Lake, hindi nyo naman tinitignan. 4645 03:03:36,140 --> 03:03:38,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano iisipin nyo kung ordinaryo kayong empleyado ng tagik? 4646 03:03:39,480 --> 03:03:40,620 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: May iba po kaming pinuntahan. 4647 03:03:41,820 --> 03:03:42,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How would we know that? 4648 03:03:43,080 --> 03:03:43,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yun nga. 4649 03:03:43,860 --> 03:03:44,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How would we know that? 4650 03:03:49,920 --> 03:03:53,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, what area did you go with the office of the ombudsman? 4651 03:03:57,620 --> 03:04:11,780 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Kasama po dun yung sa tagig Lakeshore, October 13. 4652 03:04:13,780 --> 03:04:15,620 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: At yun pong... 4653 03:04:17,200 --> 03:04:19,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, eto, harap-harap kay Secretary. 4654 03:04:19,660 --> 03:04:25,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir Secretary, I'd like to invite all of your bureaus to visit. 4655 03:04:25,620 --> 03:04:27,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because walang tinatago. 4656 03:04:27,620 --> 03:04:29,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At maganda. 4657 03:04:29,580 --> 03:04:32,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm definitely sure you will learn something from it. 4658 03:04:32,960 --> 03:04:35,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I'm sure your people will also be able to teach us. 4659 03:04:36,560 --> 03:04:39,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ang request ko lang siguro, sabay-sabay na kayo. 4660 03:04:40,220 --> 03:04:45,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi kung every week, iba-ibang grupo ang pupunta dun, 4661 03:04:45,700 --> 03:04:46,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: magpapasko na, 4662 03:04:47,160 --> 03:04:52,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kawawa naman mga tao namin na nagbabantay lang dun, di ba? 4663 03:04:54,340 --> 03:04:56,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, I think political sensitivity 4664 03:04:56,780 --> 03:04:58,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is part of our job. 4665 03:04:58,300 --> 03:04:58,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're a director. 4666 03:04:59,120 --> 03:05:01,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're not an ordinary employee. 4667 03:05:02,460 --> 03:05:02,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? 4668 03:05:03,320 --> 03:05:04,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I don't mind. 4669 03:05:04,540 --> 03:05:05,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If you wanted to do it, surprise. 4670 03:05:05,980 --> 03:05:08,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Send them without introducing themselves. 4671 03:05:08,940 --> 03:05:10,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You want them to introduce themselves, 4672 03:05:10,380 --> 03:05:11,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you can't even call? 4673 03:05:15,660 --> 03:05:18,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When did tagig ever refuse an inspection from DNR? 4674 03:05:19,060 --> 03:05:20,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Or I'll ask the Secretary. 4675 03:05:20,800 --> 03:05:23,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, you've known me, I think, since high school. 4676 03:05:23,700 --> 03:05:26,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did I ever call you for anything? 4677 03:05:26,620 --> 03:05:30,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: For anything monetary, for any favor, for any, to break any law? 4678 03:05:30,360 --> 03:05:32,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wait, if I did say it now, di ba? 4679 03:05:33,560 --> 03:05:34,500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: No, Mr. Chair. 4680 03:05:34,620 --> 03:05:35,460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, no. 4681 03:05:35,700 --> 03:05:35,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Never. 4682 03:05:36,060 --> 03:05:37,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I've called you a couple of times. 4683 03:05:37,260 --> 03:05:39,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's always on the boundary. 4684 03:05:40,060 --> 03:05:43,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Well, basketball, don't beat me up because 4685 03:05:43,560 --> 03:05:46,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: medyo tougher yung team nyo before. 4686 03:05:46,980 --> 03:05:49,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I call once in a while 4687 03:05:49,720 --> 03:05:54,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if may problema sa bureau plans. 4688 03:05:54,680 --> 03:05:56,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And it's all, 4689 03:05:56,620 --> 03:06:02,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: regarding creeks and lakes and, sorry, rivers, esteros. 4690 03:06:02,700 --> 03:06:03,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And none of it was, 4691 03:06:04,100 --> 03:06:05,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the only time I called about private 4692 03:06:05,960 --> 03:06:07,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is yung sa implementation ng, 4693 03:06:08,080 --> 03:06:10,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung titulo na hindi pa binibigay sa 2476 4694 03:06:10,940 --> 03:06:12,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: as amended by 172. 4695 03:06:13,020 --> 03:06:15,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I haven't called in like 15 years about that. 4696 03:06:15,700 --> 03:06:18,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, in my first three years and gano'n, di ba? 4697 03:06:18,580 --> 03:06:22,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I'll take your word for it, Director. 4698 03:06:22,400 --> 03:06:23,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, you look professional. 4699 03:06:23,580 --> 03:06:25,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think wala naman malis. 4700 03:06:25,860 --> 03:06:25,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, 4701 03:06:25,940 --> 03:06:27,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I hope, you know, 4702 03:06:28,600 --> 03:06:30,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: this administration has enough problems 4703 03:06:30,520 --> 03:06:33,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to, as it is, 4704 03:06:34,320 --> 03:06:41,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they had enough problems, as it is, 4705 03:06:43,160 --> 03:06:48,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na magkaroon pa ng view na may political persecution dito. 4706 03:06:48,780 --> 03:06:50,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Your people did not just inspect, ha? 4707 03:06:50,920 --> 03:06:52,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They interviewed our employees. 4708 03:06:52,860 --> 03:06:59,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, do you think ordinary security guard, 4709 03:07:00,020 --> 03:07:01,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung bantay nung rides, 4710 03:07:02,300 --> 03:07:04,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung mga naglilinis ng banyo, 4711 03:07:05,180 --> 03:07:06,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung all of them there, 4712 03:07:06,340 --> 03:07:07,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: do you think they could answer 4713 03:07:07,720 --> 03:07:10,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether may cistern kami doon, 4714 03:07:11,040 --> 03:07:13,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether merong poso negro, 4715 03:07:13,780 --> 03:07:16,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether saan nagtatapon ng basura? 4716 03:07:17,260 --> 03:07:18,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Do you think they could answer that? 4717 03:07:20,980 --> 03:07:21,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, Director. 4718 03:07:21,860 --> 03:07:25,740 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Yes po. Usually po, pag-inspection na good senator, 4719 03:07:25,900 --> 03:07:29,740 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: we coordinate with the pollution control officer. 4720 03:07:30,240 --> 03:07:31,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You did not nga eh. 4721 03:07:31,340 --> 03:07:31,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Opo. 4722 03:07:31,860 --> 03:07:33,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, the same thing with LLDA. 4723 03:07:33,460 --> 03:07:34,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They keep going back. 4724 03:07:34,860 --> 03:07:35,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They never asked us. 4725 03:07:36,760 --> 03:07:38,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, that's why when I start asking questions, 4726 03:07:38,660 --> 03:07:39,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ang sagot para, 4727 03:07:39,560 --> 03:07:40,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sagot sa akin ng PRA, 4728 03:07:41,000 --> 03:07:42,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ko alam, di ko alam, di ko alam. 4729 03:07:43,040 --> 03:07:45,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sagot sa akin ni Secretary Vince Dizon in my office, 4730 03:07:45,840 --> 03:07:46,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: did you know this? 4731 03:07:46,540 --> 03:07:47,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ko alam. 4732 03:07:47,080 --> 03:07:47,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you know this? 4733 03:07:47,640 --> 03:07:48,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ko alam. 4734 03:07:48,180 --> 03:07:48,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you know this? 4735 03:07:48,640 --> 03:07:49,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ko alam. 4736 03:07:49,140 --> 03:07:49,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O. 4737 03:07:50,520 --> 03:07:51,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero pag nag-i-inspection, 4738 03:07:51,860 --> 03:07:54,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: wala sa inyong gusto magtanong sa tamang mga tao. 4739 03:07:57,940 --> 03:07:59,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pwede namin iharap lahat ng tao, 4740 03:07:59,720 --> 03:08:00,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pati yung mga consultants, 4741 03:08:01,400 --> 03:08:03,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: para malaman niyo kung anong problema. 4742 03:08:04,320 --> 03:08:04,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? 4743 03:08:05,380 --> 03:08:07,920 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Mag-co-coordinate po kami, Mr. Senator, 4744 03:08:08,080 --> 03:08:08,360 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: sa office po niya. 4745 03:08:08,360 --> 03:08:09,280 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: Actually, Madam Chair, 4746 03:08:09,380 --> 03:08:10,580 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: can I get a straight answer? 4747 03:08:10,720 --> 03:08:12,100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why did you not coordinate? 4748 03:08:12,520 --> 03:08:13,260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: If it's pollution, 4749 03:08:13,480 --> 03:08:14,820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: they have a pollution officer, 4750 03:08:14,980 --> 03:08:15,420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: tama ba? 4751 03:08:16,060 --> 03:08:17,740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Why are you talking to the park maintenance 4752 03:08:17,740 --> 03:08:18,540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: if I think, 4753 03:08:18,900 --> 03:08:19,500 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: siguro naman, 4754 03:08:19,880 --> 03:08:20,300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Secretary, 4755 03:08:20,500 --> 03:08:21,840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: beyond naman yung walis-walis, 4756 03:08:21,860 --> 03:08:24,280 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: lang ng mga patay na dahon 4757 03:08:24,280 --> 03:08:25,340 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng tinitingnan niyo doon. 4758 03:08:25,440 --> 03:08:26,360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, did you coordinate 4759 03:08:26,360 --> 03:08:27,420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: with the proper officers? 4760 03:08:27,760 --> 03:08:29,060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Good, Madam Senator. 4761 03:08:29,520 --> 03:08:31,200 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: I think I was informed 4762 03:08:31,200 --> 03:08:32,360 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: that the Senro, 4763 03:08:33,040 --> 03:08:34,360 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: at saka po yung City Park 4764 03:08:34,360 --> 03:08:35,900 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: and Recreational Office, 4765 03:08:36,580 --> 03:08:37,540 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: I were also, 4766 03:08:37,660 --> 03:08:40,540 EMB-NCR OIC Regional Director Janice R. Pammit: na-informed po sila. 4767 03:08:40,800 --> 03:08:41,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi sila na-informed, ma'am. 4768 03:08:41,920 --> 03:08:43,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They showed themselves there. 4769 03:08:43,760 --> 03:08:46,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya yung staff lang ng Senro na nandun. 4770 03:08:46,880 --> 03:08:47,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Parang sa inyo po, di ba? 4771 03:08:48,060 --> 03:08:49,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May mga divisions kayo. 4772 03:08:49,260 --> 03:08:49,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, hindi pwedeng sabihin, 4773 03:08:49,980 --> 03:08:51,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ay, nandun pala yung isang staff ng, 4774 03:08:51,860 --> 03:08:53,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ah, Forest Bureau. 4775 03:08:53,140 --> 03:08:53,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alika, anong, 4776 03:08:54,040 --> 03:08:55,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kamusta ba, Forest, sa inyo? 4777 03:08:56,080 --> 03:08:56,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? 4778 03:08:56,920 --> 03:08:57,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ganun. 4779 03:08:57,540 --> 03:08:58,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May mga head yun. 4780 03:08:58,520 --> 03:09:00,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May mga nakakaalam nun. 4781 03:09:00,640 --> 03:09:01,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Do you know that half of that 4782 03:09:01,720 --> 03:09:02,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is still under construction? 4783 03:09:04,360 --> 03:09:04,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: May know. 4784 03:09:04,940 --> 03:09:05,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And, Attorney Janice, 4785 03:09:06,280 --> 03:09:08,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the Chair would like to suggest 4786 03:09:08,260 --> 03:09:09,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at this point in time 4787 03:09:09,480 --> 03:09:13,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: that EMBNCR and LLDA 4788 03:09:13,240 --> 03:09:15,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: should submit in writing 4789 03:09:15,140 --> 03:09:17,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: your responses to the questions 4790 03:09:17,700 --> 03:09:20,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: raised by Minority Leader 4791 03:09:20,300 --> 03:09:21,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: and Senator Pia. 4792 03:09:21,860 --> 03:09:23,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, about this topic 4793 03:09:23,520 --> 03:09:26,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: before, before we go into, ah, 4794 03:09:26,120 --> 03:09:26,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: plenary debate. 4795 03:09:26,800 --> 03:09:27,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you, ma'am. 4796 03:09:27,600 --> 03:09:28,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Just on that, 4797 03:09:28,420 --> 03:09:30,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I just want to show a short video lang. 4798 03:09:30,800 --> 03:09:31,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes. 4799 03:09:31,260 --> 03:09:32,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And, and then one question, yeah. 4800 03:09:32,980 --> 03:09:33,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: One minute, one minute and a half. 4801 03:09:33,860 --> 03:09:34,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please. 4802 03:09:34,360 --> 03:09:36,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Because we would also like to tackle 4803 03:09:36,180 --> 03:09:37,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: about five other agencies. 4804 03:09:38,520 --> 03:09:40,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, important issues as well, 4805 03:09:40,460 --> 03:09:41,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: like this one. 4806 03:09:41,220 --> 03:09:42,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, the video, please, ah, 4807 03:09:43,800 --> 03:09:44,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ah, tech. 4808 03:10:21,800 --> 03:10:33,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: We don't have to finish it. 4809 03:10:33,360 --> 03:10:34,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This is my question, GM. 4810 03:10:35,580 --> 03:10:36,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: GM, eto yung now. 4811 03:10:37,840 --> 03:10:39,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nakita mo ba yung pictures ng Laguna 4812 03:10:39,440 --> 03:10:40,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lake before? 4813 03:10:42,560 --> 03:10:43,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mike, no, please, sir. 4814 03:10:47,960 --> 03:10:48,480 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Yeah. 4815 03:10:48,840 --> 03:10:50,080 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: Ang alam ko, agricultural 4816 03:10:50,080 --> 03:10:51,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: before. Okay. Have you seen 4817 03:10:51,920 --> 03:10:52,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lupang-ariyanda? 4818 03:10:54,680 --> 03:10:55,360 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: May mga 4819 03:10:55,360 --> 03:10:57,000 LLDA Acting General Manager Leopoldo V. Parumog: matagal na po eh. 4820 03:10:57,240 --> 03:10:59,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero alam mong swamp land yun? 4821 03:10:59,280 --> 03:11:01,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na tinambakan ng basura. 4822 03:11:01,320 --> 03:11:02,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos nung naku-nuna, siyempre, 4823 03:11:02,660 --> 03:11:04,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we have to help people there. 4824 03:11:05,740 --> 03:11:08,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So this is my point, sir. 4825 03:11:08,540 --> 03:11:09,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Every time DPWH 4826 03:11:09,940 --> 03:11:12,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: does a landing area 4827 03:11:12,100 --> 03:11:13,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: like yung LLRN mo, 4828 03:11:14,040 --> 03:11:15,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: every time they build a road, 4829 03:11:15,660 --> 03:11:17,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: they have a few na manggagawa who put 4830 03:11:17,620 --> 03:11:19,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: cuts. Some of them 4831 03:11:19,560 --> 03:11:22,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: don't leave. Then magkakasindikato, 4832 03:11:22,160 --> 03:11:22,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then puno na yun. 4833 03:11:23,600 --> 03:11:25,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ganun ang isura ng Lakeshore before 4834 03:11:25,400 --> 03:11:27,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taguig started advocating 4835 03:11:27,780 --> 03:11:30,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa DPWH over three administrations. 4836 03:11:31,140 --> 03:11:31,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Aquino, 4837 03:11:31,920 --> 03:11:33,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Duterte, Marcos. 4838 03:11:33,640 --> 03:11:35,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi to bago. Tatlong 4839 03:11:35,420 --> 03:11:37,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: administration na to. And it's not cheap. 4840 03:11:37,780 --> 03:11:39,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's not easy. There's a lot 4841 03:11:39,680 --> 03:11:41,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of pains. There's a lot of 4842 03:11:41,000 --> 03:11:43,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: safeguarding. There's a lot of things that 4843 03:11:43,500 --> 03:11:45,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have to be done 4844 03:11:45,120 --> 03:11:47,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: regarding that. If we didn't 4845 03:11:47,600 --> 03:11:48,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: have that, 4846 03:11:49,560 --> 03:11:51,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: panay informal settlers yung 4847 03:11:51,440 --> 03:11:53,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nandyan. I had this discussion 4848 03:11:53,420 --> 03:11:54,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with Neric Acosta, 4849 03:11:55,340 --> 03:11:57,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a good friend, kabatch namin ni chairman 4850 03:11:57,400 --> 03:11:59,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Congress. He 4851 03:11:59,360 --> 03:12:01,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: was with a group 4852 03:12:01,580 --> 03:12:03,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of LLD 4853 03:12:03,240 --> 03:12:05,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lawyers. Sabi na, sir, 4854 03:12:05,440 --> 03:12:07,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we can't allow development. Sabi ko, 4855 03:12:07,400 --> 03:12:09,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bakit? Eh yung loan nyo nakalagay development. 4856 03:12:11,220 --> 03:12:13,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So sabi ko, you choose, Neric. 4857 03:12:15,140 --> 03:12:15,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Informal 4858 03:12:15,740 --> 03:12:17,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: settlers or may itatayo. 4859 03:12:18,780 --> 03:12:19,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: All around, 4860 03:12:19,560 --> 03:12:21,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: except for 4861 03:12:21,480 --> 03:12:22,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anguno, Binyan, 4862 03:12:23,460 --> 03:12:25,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: except for parts of 4863 03:12:25,020 --> 03:12:27,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taytay, et cetera, panay 4864 03:12:27,260 --> 03:12:28,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: informal settlers. 4865 03:12:29,560 --> 03:12:31,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero dun sa amin na mga 4866 03:12:31,140 --> 03:12:33,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagpundar, kami 4867 03:12:33,500 --> 03:12:35,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pa masama ngayon. 4868 03:12:35,500 --> 03:12:36,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So ito lang last question, sir. 4869 03:12:37,900 --> 03:12:39,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two weeks ago, may lawyers meeting, 4870 03:12:39,580 --> 03:12:40,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lahat ng lawyers ng LLD. 4871 03:12:41,920 --> 03:12:43,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Were you informed of that? 4872 03:12:43,480 --> 03:12:45,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi. Kayo, ma'am, were you there? 4873 03:12:46,880 --> 03:12:47,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Can you ask 4874 03:12:47,560 --> 03:12:49,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: your lawyers? Nag-meeting silang lahat? 4875 03:12:49,560 --> 03:12:50,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: With one agenda. 4876 03:12:51,880 --> 03:12:53,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Paano kasuhan ang city officials 4877 03:12:53,680 --> 03:12:54,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng Taguig? 4878 03:12:56,360 --> 03:12:57,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Maliit mundo natin, ma'am. 4879 03:12:58,140 --> 03:12:59,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nga, kumpanyera-kumpanyero 4880 03:12:59,540 --> 03:13:00,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tawagan natin, diba? 4881 03:13:01,240 --> 03:13:02,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nag-meeting. So, Mr. Secretary, 4882 03:13:03,720 --> 03:13:04,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may MOA, 4883 03:13:06,060 --> 03:13:06,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi sinabmit, 4884 03:13:07,860 --> 03:13:09,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinigil lahat ng meetings, 4885 03:13:10,440 --> 03:13:11,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: secret inspections, 4886 03:13:12,440 --> 03:13:13,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: no coordination, 4887 03:13:13,880 --> 03:13:15,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and then may meeting, paano kasuhan? 4888 03:13:16,320 --> 03:13:17,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: To my knowledge, 4889 03:13:17,600 --> 03:13:19,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there's no utos from Malacanang to do. 4890 03:13:19,560 --> 03:13:21,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I don't want to blame anyone. 4891 03:13:22,420 --> 03:13:22,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? 4892 03:13:23,080 --> 03:13:25,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung may dapat kasuhan, go ahead, kasuhan nyo. 4893 03:13:25,740 --> 03:13:26,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? But, 4894 03:13:27,740 --> 03:13:29,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I thought, we're here to look 4895 03:13:29,520 --> 03:13:31,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for a way forward. So, yun yung tanong ko, 4896 03:13:32,180 --> 03:13:33,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: maybe kay Yusek Jonas. 4897 03:13:33,480 --> 03:13:35,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yusek, can the city submit 4898 03:13:35,320 --> 03:13:37,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the MOA directly to the 4899 03:13:37,700 --> 03:13:39,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: board? And can the city 4900 03:13:39,640 --> 03:13:41,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: officials have a dialogue 4901 03:13:41,840 --> 03:13:43,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with the board para magkaliwanagan 4902 03:13:43,740 --> 03:13:44,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if 4903 03:13:44,120 --> 03:13:46,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the GM 4904 03:13:46,400 --> 03:13:49,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is entertaining pressures or whatever? 4905 03:13:49,560 --> 03:13:51,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then, at least, maybe the board will not? 4906 03:13:53,020 --> 03:13:55,400 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: Sir, pinagawa namin doon, 4907 03:13:55,640 --> 03:13:57,840 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: Mr. Senators, that if the document 4908 03:13:57,840 --> 03:13:59,900 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: will be submitted directly to the board, 4909 03:14:00,360 --> 03:14:01,460 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: we will refer it to the 4910 03:14:01,460 --> 03:14:03,560 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: immediately for reacts or comments of the 4911 03:14:04,400 --> 03:14:05,560 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: LDA, 4912 03:14:06,760 --> 03:14:08,060 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: and then with timelines po yun. 4913 03:14:08,120 --> 03:14:10,120 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: And then, we can call a special meeting 4914 03:14:10,120 --> 03:14:11,880 DENR Undersecretary Jonas R. Leones: specially to discuss this. 4915 03:14:11,880 --> 03:14:14,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you for that. And again, no special favors. 4916 03:14:14,260 --> 03:14:15,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, anong best for the lake? 4917 03:14:16,240 --> 03:14:17,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then, Sec, can I 4918 03:14:17,740 --> 03:14:19,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: just point person lang? 4919 03:14:19,560 --> 03:14:21,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: We need any documents from 4920 03:14:21,000 --> 03:14:23,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether NCR, LLDA, para lang 4921 03:14:23,760 --> 03:14:25,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we just don't get the 4922 03:14:25,700 --> 03:14:27,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: go around and you've always been 4923 03:14:27,640 --> 03:14:28,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: straightforward with us. 4924 03:14:29,760 --> 03:14:31,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Madam Chair, Yusek Jonas, 4925 03:14:31,640 --> 03:14:32,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: thank you. 4926 03:14:33,040 --> 03:14:34,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Madam Chair, thank you for the invitation. 4927 03:14:34,540 --> 03:14:35,620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you, Mayno. 4928 03:14:35,960 --> 03:14:39,080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I won't ask any more questions. 4929 03:14:39,440 --> 03:14:40,820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I will just submit if that's okay. 4930 03:14:40,820 --> 03:14:41,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, please. 4931 03:14:41,680 --> 03:14:44,040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I have a very good relationship with the Secretary 4932 03:14:44,040 --> 03:14:46,460 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and his team. Yung mga questions ko naman, 4933 03:14:46,560 --> 03:14:48,260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: mga follow-up lang naman doon sa mga 4934 03:14:48,260 --> 03:14:48,760 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: matatagpon. 4935 03:14:49,560 --> 03:14:51,620 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Matagal ko ng concerns. So, I'll just submit it 4936 03:14:51,620 --> 03:14:53,780 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and then I can probably just ask for a briefing, 4937 03:14:54,280 --> 03:14:56,140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Madam Chair. And I'll also let you know 4938 03:14:56,140 --> 03:14:57,900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: what those questions are kasi baka 4939 03:14:57,900 --> 03:14:59,300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: malamang aligned naman tayo eh. 4940 03:14:59,400 --> 03:15:00,000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Like, I was listening. 4941 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:02,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: a lot of your questions on the 4942 03:15:02,520 --> 03:15:04,760 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: preparations for El Nino, yung water. 4943 03:15:05,160 --> 03:15:06,480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: By the way, everyone, hindi ko 4944 03:15:06,480 --> 03:15:07,880 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: kayo titigilan sa tubig kasi 4945 03:15:07,880 --> 03:15:10,460 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: International Water Day is 4946 03:15:10,460 --> 03:15:11,580 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: my birthday, okay? 4947 03:15:12,140 --> 03:15:14,540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I always make 4948 03:15:14,540 --> 03:15:16,020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: a privileged speech, if you recall, 4949 03:15:16,200 --> 03:15:18,360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Chairperson, kasi nga, natataon yan na 4950 03:15:18,360 --> 03:15:20,260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: birthday ko and it's a good time to get 4951 03:15:20,260 --> 03:15:22,640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: updates. 4952 03:15:23,340 --> 03:15:24,680 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I'll only emphasize lang, 4953 03:15:24,820 --> 03:15:26,480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: women and environment, there's a special 4954 03:15:26,480 --> 03:15:28,640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: concern of ours with the Chairperson. 4955 03:15:28,640 --> 03:15:30,740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: And earlier, pero when you were 4956 03:15:30,740 --> 03:15:32,560 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: calling more people to speak, parang medyo 4957 03:15:32,560 --> 03:15:34,320 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: napansin ko, Secretary, medyo karamihan 4958 03:15:34,320 --> 03:15:36,900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: mga lalaki, but I think you have a lot of other 4959 03:15:36,900 --> 03:15:38,260 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: staff na ano. 4960 03:15:39,340 --> 03:15:39,920 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: It's just 4961 03:15:39,920 --> 03:15:42,480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: like, nung pagkita ko, and 4962 03:15:42,480 --> 03:15:44,720 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I'm not saying that the men are not equally 4963 03:15:44,720 --> 03:15:46,340 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: or, you know, 4964 03:15:46,600 --> 03:15:48,440 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: you all deserve to be there, 4965 03:15:48,900 --> 03:15:50,180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: but when 4966 03:15:50,180 --> 03:15:52,800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: we just want to make sure that there's enough representation 4967 03:15:52,800 --> 03:15:54,640 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: because a lot of the issues affect 4968 03:15:54,640 --> 03:15:56,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: women and you need to hear the women's voice 4969 03:15:56,520 --> 03:15:58,540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: in the room. And 5% ng reminder 4970 03:15:58,540 --> 03:16:00,380 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ko lang sa lahat ng agency, 5% ng 4971 03:16:00,380 --> 03:16:02,300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: budget nyo, kailangan napupunta sa 4972 03:16:02,300 --> 03:16:04,240 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: women. So, anyway, Secretary, 4973 03:16:04,380 --> 03:16:06,360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: before you answer, my 4974 03:16:06,360 --> 03:16:08,000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: one and only statement is this. 4975 03:16:09,840 --> 03:16:10,540 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I think 4976 03:16:10,540 --> 03:16:12,400 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: it's very clear from the discussion we 4977 03:16:12,400 --> 03:16:14,440 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: had in the past hour 4978 03:16:14,440 --> 03:16:16,400 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: that there 4979 03:16:16,400 --> 03:16:17,060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: are a lot of 4980 03:16:17,060 --> 03:16:20,100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: things that have been said, 4981 03:16:20,280 --> 03:16:22,400 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: have been published, actions that have 4982 03:16:22,400 --> 03:16:23,040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: been taken, 4983 03:16:24,100 --> 03:16:26,300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: driven by some 4984 03:16:26,300 --> 03:16:28,080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: other purpose other than clearly 4985 03:16:28,080 --> 03:16:28,500 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: just 4986 03:16:28,540 --> 03:16:30,380 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: trying to find out what we can do 4987 03:16:30,380 --> 03:16:32,320 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to better serve the country, 4988 03:16:32,460 --> 03:16:33,980 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to better work together 4989 03:16:33,980 --> 03:16:36,480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: national 4990 03:16:36,480 --> 03:16:38,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: government and local government. Kung hindi 4991 03:16:38,520 --> 03:16:40,280 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: pa natin kayang aminin yun, ang laki na 4992 03:16:40,280 --> 03:16:42,400 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng problema natin. Because a whole 4993 03:16:42,400 --> 03:16:44,180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: hour was taken up 4994 03:16:44,180 --> 03:16:46,080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to discuss these things, no, with 4995 03:16:46,080 --> 03:16:48,420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: the patience of the chairperson. 4996 03:16:48,740 --> 03:16:48,940 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, 4997 03:16:49,680 --> 03:16:52,480 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: I need to say 4998 03:16:52,480 --> 03:16:54,360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: that when we allow 4999 03:16:54,360 --> 03:16:56,820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: government agencies to be weaponized, 5000 03:16:56,820 --> 03:16:59,060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: against certain 5001 03:16:59,060 --> 03:17:01,040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: people, also in 5002 03:17:01,040 --> 03:17:03,080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: government, certain private 5003 03:17:03,080 --> 03:17:04,820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: individuals, certain LGUs, 5004 03:17:05,940 --> 03:17:07,040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: we should all 5005 03:17:07,040 --> 03:17:08,500 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: take responsibility for that. 5006 03:17:09,460 --> 03:17:10,940 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because this is what happens, 5007 03:17:11,040 --> 03:17:12,960 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: it breaks down our systems. 5008 03:17:13,800 --> 03:17:15,020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Ang ganda na ng mga sistema 5009 03:17:15,020 --> 03:17:16,800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: natin. It will break it down 5010 03:17:16,800 --> 03:17:18,700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to the point that it may be 5011 03:17:18,700 --> 03:17:19,460 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: irreparable. 5012 03:17:20,620 --> 03:17:22,060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I ask each of you, 5013 03:17:22,940 --> 03:17:25,000 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: there are good, hardworking people 5014 03:17:25,000 --> 03:17:26,800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: everywhere. Many of you, I will 5015 03:17:26,820 --> 03:17:29,180 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: assume, as I always assume, 5016 03:17:29,900 --> 03:17:31,060 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: are honest, good, 5017 03:17:31,180 --> 03:17:33,120 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: hardworking people. Do not 5018 03:17:33,120 --> 03:17:35,220 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: allow your offices to be weaponized. 5019 03:17:36,700 --> 03:17:37,460 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Do not allow. 5020 03:17:38,240 --> 03:17:39,100 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Do not allow 5021 03:17:39,100 --> 03:17:40,660 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: your team to confront 5022 03:17:40,660 --> 03:17:42,840 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: average employees and 5023 03:17:42,840 --> 03:17:45,040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: come to conclusions that you 5024 03:17:45,040 --> 03:17:47,140 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: could easily ask the proper 5025 03:17:47,140 --> 03:17:48,040 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: officers about. 5026 03:17:50,700 --> 03:17:52,960 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: We're better than this, dear 5027 03:17:52,960 --> 03:17:55,020 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: colleagues. You are our colleagues in government 5028 03:17:55,020 --> 03:17:56,800 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: service. Let's just do it. 5029 03:17:56,800 --> 03:17:57,300 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Let's do our job. 5030 03:17:58,700 --> 03:18:00,120 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Sana po yung mga public 5031 03:18:00,120 --> 03:18:02,680 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: releases, alam din ng mga heads 5032 03:18:02,680 --> 03:18:04,660 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: ng mga various agencies 5033 03:18:04,660 --> 03:18:06,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: and yung fair lang. 5034 03:18:07,040 --> 03:18:08,460 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Mr. GM, pwede ho ba? 5035 03:18:10,220 --> 03:18:11,700 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, I leave it up to you. 5036 03:18:12,280 --> 03:18:14,760 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Dagdagan nyo pa kung anong gusto nyo sabihin doon. 5037 03:18:15,480 --> 03:18:16,900 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Tanggalin nyo kung may kulang 5038 03:18:16,900 --> 03:18:17,240 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: doon. 5039 03:18:18,860 --> 03:18:20,560 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Because information is power. 5040 03:18:21,280 --> 03:18:22,520 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: No less than WHO 5041 03:18:22,520 --> 03:18:24,740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: said at the height of COVID that one of 5042 03:18:24,740 --> 03:18:26,340 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: the solutions is communication. 5043 03:18:26,800 --> 03:18:28,620 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, if you will allow your agencies 5044 03:18:28,620 --> 03:18:30,740 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: to be used to communicate 5045 03:18:30,740 --> 03:18:32,820 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: the wrong information, then we 5046 03:18:32,820 --> 03:18:34,080 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: are all party to this problem. 5047 03:18:35,060 --> 03:18:36,360 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: So, sana ayus-ayusin natin. 5048 03:18:37,120 --> 03:18:38,420 Senator Pia S. Cayetano: Thank you so much, Madam Chairperson. 5049 03:18:39,020 --> 03:18:40,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you too, Senator Pia. 5050 03:18:41,120 --> 03:18:42,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. Pagpatuloy, 5051 03:18:43,140 --> 03:18:43,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: did you want to say something? 5052 03:18:43,880 --> 03:18:46,880 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I just wanted to say on the point earlier 5053 03:18:46,880 --> 03:18:48,280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: raised by 5054 03:18:48,280 --> 03:18:49,240 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Senator Allan, 5055 03:18:49,900 --> 03:18:52,780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: let me assure the committee 5056 03:18:52,780 --> 03:18:54,820 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and Senator Allan that moving forward 5057 03:18:54,820 --> 03:18:56,780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: we will ensure the proper coordination 5058 03:18:56,800 --> 03:18:59,020 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: is done for any activity 5059 03:18:59,020 --> 03:19:00,500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that will be 5060 03:19:00,500 --> 03:19:02,080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: done in the LGU. 5061 03:19:03,160 --> 03:19:04,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Madam Chair, no surprise 5062 03:19:04,960 --> 03:19:06,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and may reason, go ahead, 5063 03:19:06,480 --> 03:19:08,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi no one is above the law. 5064 03:19:08,460 --> 03:19:10,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm just saying, just be fair. 5065 03:19:11,420 --> 03:19:12,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And tama si 5066 03:19:12,900 --> 03:19:14,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Pia na sa water, 5067 03:19:15,320 --> 03:19:16,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the ladies are doing a better job 5068 03:19:16,960 --> 03:19:18,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but pagbigyan nyo na, they have to keep 5069 03:19:18,960 --> 03:19:20,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bringing up kasi the issue is just 5070 03:19:20,880 --> 03:19:21,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: too big. 5071 03:19:23,180 --> 03:19:24,640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Thank you, Madam Chair. 5072 03:19:24,640 --> 03:19:25,620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We'll remember that. 5073 03:19:26,800 --> 03:19:28,400 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, March 22 5074 03:19:28,400 --> 03:19:29,300 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: is the 5075 03:19:29,300 --> 03:19:32,780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: on the point 5076 03:19:32,780 --> 03:19:34,440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: of being gender 5077 03:19:34,440 --> 03:19:35,480 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: sensitive, 5078 03:19:36,380 --> 03:19:38,840 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yusek Anate is the head of our gender development 5079 03:19:38,840 --> 03:19:40,600 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and the females 5080 03:19:40,600 --> 03:19:42,500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: outweigh or outnumber 5081 03:19:42,500 --> 03:19:43,820 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: the males by 5082 03:19:43,820 --> 03:19:45,200 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: just a few, 5083 03:19:45,700 --> 03:19:47,900 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 9,346 5084 03:19:47,900 --> 03:19:50,980 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: ang female, 9,294 5085 03:19:50,980 --> 03:19:52,500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: ang male. So there are more females. 5086 03:19:52,880 --> 03:19:53,620 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: And there are a lot in 5087 03:19:53,620 --> 03:19:56,580 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: leadership positions actually. 5088 03:19:56,800 --> 03:19:57,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you. 5089 03:19:57,940 --> 03:19:59,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Secuna. 5090 03:19:59,900 --> 03:20:01,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sige, tuloy natin yung 5091 03:20:01,280 --> 03:20:03,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa El Nino, 5092 03:20:03,280 --> 03:20:04,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kaugnay din ng tubig. 5093 03:20:05,380 --> 03:20:07,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So a few other concerns, 5094 03:20:07,420 --> 03:20:09,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: MWSS Regulatory 5095 03:20:09,800 --> 03:20:11,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Office, LUA, 5096 03:20:11,740 --> 03:20:13,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at saka yung NWRB. 5097 03:20:14,400 --> 03:20:15,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, doble 5098 03:20:15,920 --> 03:20:17,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: talaga po yung pangamba 5099 03:20:17,440 --> 03:20:19,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga kababayan natin 5100 03:20:19,660 --> 03:20:21,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa epekto ng Super El Nino. 5101 03:20:22,020 --> 03:20:23,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I mean, imagine ito na yung pinaka 5102 03:20:23,420 --> 03:20:25,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: magiging malakas in the last 5103 03:20:25,100 --> 03:20:26,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: half century. 5104 03:20:26,800 --> 03:20:28,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, sa mga lugar na ngayon pa lang, 5105 03:20:28,460 --> 03:20:30,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: eh, nahaharap na sa water shortages 5106 03:20:30,640 --> 03:20:32,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at saka poor service 5107 03:20:32,260 --> 03:20:34,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: gaya ng mga lugar na 5108 03:20:34,440 --> 03:20:36,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sineserbisyohan 5109 03:20:36,580 --> 03:20:37,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ngayon ng 5110 03:20:37,700 --> 03:20:40,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: bagong concessionaire dati, 5111 03:20:40,380 --> 03:20:41,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung lumang concessionaire. 5112 03:20:42,560 --> 03:20:44,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Meron din pong mga private subdivisions, 5113 03:20:44,700 --> 03:20:46,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga gated communities 5114 03:20:46,220 --> 03:20:48,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na sinerve 5115 03:20:48,120 --> 03:20:50,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dati nung lumang concessionaires 5116 03:20:50,240 --> 03:20:52,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: o ng bulk water suppliers 5117 03:20:52,160 --> 03:20:54,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: in partnership sa real estate 5118 03:20:54,520 --> 03:20:56,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: companies. So, yung iba 5119 03:20:56,520 --> 03:20:58,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dito, nasa concession areas 5120 03:20:58,280 --> 03:21:00,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng Manila Water, pati ng Maynilad. 5121 03:21:01,020 --> 03:21:02,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, ano po yung ginagawa 5122 03:21:02,540 --> 03:21:04,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa pagkaalam ng MWSSRO? 5123 03:21:04,980 --> 03:21:06,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ano pong ginagawa ng mga water 5124 03:21:06,280 --> 03:21:07,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: concessionaires 5125 03:21:07,300 --> 03:21:10,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: o ng mga water agencies 5126 03:21:10,680 --> 03:21:11,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tungkol dito? 5127 03:21:12,200 --> 03:21:13,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano na yung mga 5128 03:21:13,520 --> 03:21:16,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: served areas na may hinaharap na problema 5129 03:21:16,460 --> 03:21:18,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa supply at kalidad 5130 03:21:18,460 --> 03:21:19,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: bago pa man 5131 03:21:19,860 --> 03:21:22,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tumatama itong Super El Nino? 5132 03:21:23,480 --> 03:21:24,460 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Okay. Thank you, 5133 03:21:25,180 --> 03:21:25,680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Madam Chair. 5134 03:21:25,680 --> 03:21:26,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I'm sorry. 5135 03:21:26,520 --> 03:21:27,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I'm sorry, Chief Regulator T. 5136 03:21:27,620 --> 03:21:28,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Before you continue, 5137 03:21:28,960 --> 03:21:30,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nasa na ba si Ms. Via? 5138 03:21:30,960 --> 03:21:32,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung pwede lang i-flash ulit yung slide 5139 03:21:32,740 --> 03:21:34,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kanina, yung slide 5140 03:21:34,780 --> 03:21:37,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nung may pamagat siyang 5141 03:21:37,440 --> 03:21:38,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: spatial risk overlay 5142 03:21:38,940 --> 03:21:41,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: identifies 34% 5143 03:21:41,600 --> 03:21:43,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: of barangays as priority 5144 03:21:43,180 --> 03:21:44,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: intervention zones. 5145 03:21:45,360 --> 03:21:47,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, baka pwede nyo rin i-address yung slide 5146 03:21:47,300 --> 03:21:49,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na ito, Sir T., 5147 03:21:49,100 --> 03:21:51,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa pagsagot sa tanong. 5148 03:22:24,000 --> 03:22:25,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ready? 5149 03:22:26,520 --> 03:22:28,640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Thank you, Madam Chairperson. 5150 03:22:28,640 --> 03:22:49,780 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Yes, based on our report, based on our investigation, we found out that individualized, out of the subdivisions, of the total of 847 in Manila Water, 568 are individualized connections already, and 279 are still on bulk selling. 5151 03:22:49,780 --> 03:23:05,800 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: For Maynilad customers, 1,351 are individualized, and those are not yet connected is 247 are still under bulk selling. 5152 03:23:06,700 --> 03:23:08,540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So those are the figures right now. 5153 03:23:09,800 --> 03:23:19,760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Actually, there is an existing plan right now to coordinate with both Manila Water and Maynilad to require them to individualize as much as possible. 5154 03:23:19,780 --> 03:23:31,440 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: However, they are very limited by the situation of the ground, particularly the rights of the private ownership who will refuse to turn it over. 5155 03:23:32,060 --> 03:23:48,720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So those are the biggest issue that the two concessions normally face, that the private developer will not turn it over to them, or that the quality of the pipes and the infrastructure developed by the private developer is not up to speed. 5156 03:23:48,740 --> 03:23:49,500 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So. 5157 03:23:49,780 --> 03:23:52,500 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: But there are always processing right now. 5158 03:23:53,300 --> 03:24:04,680 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: There are a lot of individual applications right now that are being reviewed, that are being ongoing individualization, and a lot of are under negotiations or under investigations. 5159 03:24:05,900 --> 03:24:18,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sa 34% ng baranggays natin na priority intervention zones, nalolocate nyo ba dito any of those communities na may ganitong problema as you just described? 5160 03:24:19,160 --> 03:24:19,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung paano? 5161 03:24:19,780 --> 03:24:22,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano babalansihin or babanggain yung rights of private ownership? 5162 03:24:23,320 --> 03:24:27,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tapos yung access sa life-sustaining water ng lahat ng baranggay? 5163 03:24:27,500 --> 03:24:27,660 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Yes. 5164 03:24:27,720 --> 03:24:35,180 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: These are all inside the concession area or limited to Metro Manila and Rizal and province of Cavite. 5165 03:24:35,800 --> 03:24:40,540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So the numbers that I have provided, these are all inside that area. 5166 03:24:40,540 --> 03:24:49,540 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: And I think there's no major issue with regard to connection because majority, the ones that I mentioned that are not individualized, 5167 03:24:49,780 --> 03:24:53,980 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: are being serviced by bulk water supply, by Manila Water or Maynilat. 5168 03:24:54,260 --> 03:24:55,900 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So water is provided to them. 5169 03:24:56,840 --> 03:25:06,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So kahit yung mga area na baka may tension between private ownership of the water tapos yung need, hindi naman po sila kasama dito sa 34% of baranggays? 5170 03:25:07,260 --> 03:25:12,620 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I cannot answer that because, again, it's limited only to Metro Manila. 5171 03:25:13,040 --> 03:25:16,720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I think majority are outside, the red zones are outside Metro Manila. 5172 03:25:16,720 --> 03:25:19,220 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: But again, Madam Chair, 5173 03:25:19,780 --> 03:25:27,640 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: with regard to the issues of whether or not there were some issues with the HOA, the private developer and the residents, 5174 03:25:28,080 --> 03:25:31,520 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I can actually confirm that there are issues. 5175 03:25:31,880 --> 03:25:32,720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: There are still issues. 5176 03:25:33,100 --> 03:25:38,780 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: However, our hands are quite tied behind our backs. 5177 03:25:38,880 --> 03:25:40,240 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: We could not interfere. 5178 03:25:40,840 --> 03:25:44,720 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Majority of the issues are with the DSUD and there's pending issues there. 5179 03:25:44,720 --> 03:25:48,060 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Like for example, there is a recently, there was actually a request for us, 5180 03:25:48,280 --> 03:25:49,760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: and we were trying to assist. 5181 03:25:49,760 --> 03:25:58,820 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: And however, the DSUD came out with a decision that the current board that we are talking to is not the correct board. 5182 03:25:59,500 --> 03:26:03,460 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So the original board was retained. 5183 03:26:04,100 --> 03:26:08,760 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So there was an issue of which HOA association that should be discussing with us. 5184 03:26:10,160 --> 03:26:17,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Siguro, sir, before the plenary, you can just double check, if you may, and inform the subcommittee kung meron nga. 5185 03:26:17,960 --> 03:26:19,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hopefully, wala. 5186 03:26:19,760 --> 03:26:25,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero kung meron nga dito sa communities that we're talking about that fall among the 34%. 5187 03:26:25,500 --> 03:26:26,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At least, you don't think so? 5188 03:26:26,820 --> 03:26:27,300 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: I don't think so. 5189 03:26:27,300 --> 03:26:30,260 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Because Metro Manila is always connected. 5190 03:26:30,480 --> 03:26:33,300 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Majority are connected by individualized. 5191 03:26:34,140 --> 03:26:37,500 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: But in the situation that we're discussing, they're connected by bulk selling. 5192 03:26:37,900 --> 03:26:38,700 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So they have bulk water. 5193 03:26:38,780 --> 03:26:43,200 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: So I don't think they'll be covered by that any drought risk. 5194 03:26:43,540 --> 03:26:45,260 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Because they will be provided water. 5195 03:26:46,000 --> 03:26:47,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: That's good to know. 5196 03:26:47,500 --> 03:26:48,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Of course, 5197 03:26:48,960 --> 03:26:49,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga iwan sa atin, 5198 03:26:49,760 --> 03:26:55,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: then paano gawa ng paraan yung 34% outside of these better situated areas. 5199 03:26:55,160 --> 03:26:56,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero nasa top priorities nyo. 5200 03:26:56,880 --> 03:27:02,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And if there's anything that we could follow up with DSUDE, 5201 03:27:02,000 --> 03:27:04,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para naman dito sa particular na pinag-uusapan natin, 5202 03:27:05,240 --> 03:27:07,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: please let the subcommittee know also. 5203 03:27:07,280 --> 03:27:12,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Para if there's anything na pwedeng ipatulong dun sa sponsor naman ng DSUDE budget 5204 03:27:12,840 --> 03:27:14,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: by way of problem solving. 5205 03:27:15,040 --> 03:27:15,600 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Yes. Noted. 5206 03:27:15,600 --> 03:27:16,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Appreciate the detail. 5207 03:27:16,060 --> 03:27:16,980 MWSS Chief Regulator Patrick Lester Ty: Noted, Madam Chairman. 5208 03:27:17,040 --> 03:27:17,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Alright. Salamat po. 5209 03:27:18,520 --> 03:27:19,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Some questions now for the mic. 5210 03:27:19,760 --> 03:27:21,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mines and Geosciences Bureau. 5211 03:27:22,200 --> 03:27:23,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Dr. MGB. 5212 03:27:23,700 --> 03:27:24,120 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Yes, sir. 5213 03:27:24,200 --> 03:27:26,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Director Herades. 5214 03:27:27,560 --> 03:27:32,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, gaya ng sinimulan kong banggitin, Director, nung briefing natin. 5215 03:27:32,980 --> 03:27:38,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Simula po nung 2025, last year, nakatanggap yung opisina ko ng reklamo 5216 03:27:38,820 --> 03:27:44,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ukol sa intermittent uncontrolled burning ng wooded areas. 5217 03:27:44,540 --> 03:27:48,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Malapit po sa mga nickel mining areas or tenements. 5218 03:27:48,340 --> 03:27:53,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Particular, halimbawa sa Manikani Island, sa Giwan, Eastern Samar. 5219 03:27:54,000 --> 03:27:56,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At protected area po itong Manikani. 5220 03:27:57,100 --> 03:28:01,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, ano po yung formal na action so far or plano ng MGB 5221 03:28:01,340 --> 03:28:08,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para maiwasan yung forest fire doon sa Manikani at sa iba pang wooded areas sa ating bansa? 5222 03:28:11,180 --> 03:28:16,480 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Meron pong program ang mga mining company na magkaroon po ng emergency response team. 5223 03:28:16,480 --> 03:28:22,820 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Pinasama na po namin sa kanila ang training on prevention of forest fires 5224 03:28:22,820 --> 03:28:28,000 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: and training ng mga on actual action when forest fires happen. 5225 03:28:29,080 --> 03:28:36,420 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: At kasi po ang natural vegetation po ng mga nickel mines, 5226 03:28:37,140 --> 03:28:42,880 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: madali pong matuyo sila, lalong-lalo na sa panahon po ng summer. 5227 03:28:43,320 --> 03:28:45,880 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: So, meron pong mga accidental. 5228 03:28:46,480 --> 03:28:57,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Either po na incidental yung nagtatapon po ng post or talaga pong nag-spontaneous fire po 5229 03:28:57,520 --> 03:29:03,620 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung mga dried up mga vegetation doon sa area. 5230 03:29:03,760 --> 03:29:07,760 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: So, we included po sa training po ng mga ERT ng mga mining company 5231 03:29:07,760 --> 03:29:14,000 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung action on forest fires po sa mga emergency response team nila po. 5232 03:29:14,600 --> 03:29:16,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero bukod po sa mining, 5233 03:29:16,240 --> 03:29:17,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga mining companies mismo, 5234 03:29:17,720 --> 03:29:27,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ang MGB, ano po yung action ninyo or plano bilang kayo yung may regulatory function sa mga kumpanyang ito? 5235 03:29:27,140 --> 03:29:32,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Yes po. Sinasama po namin sila sa mga work program po na ina-approve namin 5236 03:29:32,520 --> 03:29:37,000 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: which is being committed by the mining company to for the implementation po. 5237 03:29:40,000 --> 03:29:42,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. I can appreciate that already, Director. 5238 03:29:42,420 --> 03:29:45,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero baka the Bureau needs to do more. 5239 03:29:46,240 --> 03:29:56,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Siyempre, kayo ang mas may interest na mapigilan itong mga forest fires na mining related 5240 03:29:56,320 --> 03:29:59,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at lalo na sa mga protected areas kesa pa in all fairness. 5241 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:01,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga kumpanya. Kasi siyempre, 5242 03:30:01,880 --> 03:30:03,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung appetite for risk nila, 5243 03:30:04,160 --> 03:30:05,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kahit at the risk of forest fire, 5244 03:30:05,880 --> 03:30:07,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ay siyempre mas mataas 5245 03:30:07,380 --> 03:30:10,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kesa sa MGB, which is the Bureau of the Department 5246 03:30:10,040 --> 03:30:11,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: of the Environment pa rin. 5247 03:30:19,780 --> 03:30:21,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Paano po yung gagawin naman 5248 03:30:21,760 --> 03:30:23,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng MGB 5249 03:30:23,080 --> 03:30:25,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para nga paghandaan yung impact 5250 03:30:25,780 --> 03:30:27,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng Super El Niño 5251 03:30:27,180 --> 03:30:29,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa major mining sites 5252 03:30:29,480 --> 03:30:31,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa bansa at sa mga 5253 03:30:31,320 --> 03:30:33,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: komunidad na malapit doon, yung mga mining 5254 03:30:33,240 --> 03:30:34,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: affected communities? 5255 03:30:35,920 --> 03:30:37,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, will it? 5256 03:30:37,560 --> 03:30:38,580 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Yes, Madam Chair, 5257 03:30:38,780 --> 03:30:40,660 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Director. Since 5258 03:30:40,660 --> 03:30:42,080 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: September 3, 5259 03:30:42,240 --> 03:30:44,460 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: 2026, 5260 03:30:45,140 --> 03:30:46,960 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: MGB issued po sa mga mining 5261 03:30:46,960 --> 03:30:48,620 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: company through the regional offices 5262 03:30:48,620 --> 03:30:51,160 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: a memorandum na i-re-focus 5263 03:30:51,160 --> 03:30:53,280 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: or re-calibrate 5264 03:30:53,280 --> 03:30:54,840 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: po yung mga SDMP nila, 5265 03:30:54,840 --> 03:30:56,800 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung Social Development Management 5266 03:30:56,800 --> 03:30:59,100 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Plan, yung fund 5267 03:30:59,100 --> 03:30:59,460 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: po nila, 5268 03:30:59,480 --> 03:31:01,440 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: re-focus po doon sa 5269 03:31:01,440 --> 03:31:03,540 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: tinatawag po namin 5270 03:31:03,540 --> 03:31:05,200 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: water resources development 5271 03:31:05,200 --> 03:31:07,560 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: measures, yung pong 5272 03:31:07,560 --> 03:31:08,000 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: mga 5273 03:31:08,000 --> 03:31:11,360 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: probable na areas po 5274 03:31:11,360 --> 03:31:13,020 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: na maging maapektuhan 5275 03:31:13,020 --> 03:31:15,580 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: ng Super El Niño. 5276 03:31:16,260 --> 03:31:17,580 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Inaalaw po namin 5277 03:31:17,580 --> 03:31:19,680 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: sila to conduct, to implement 5278 03:31:19,680 --> 03:31:21,460 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: project water resources development 5279 03:31:21,460 --> 03:31:23,360 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: projects like development 5280 03:31:23,360 --> 03:31:24,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: of water wells, 5281 03:31:24,520 --> 03:31:24,840 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: at 5282 03:31:24,840 --> 03:31:28,680 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: solar-powered 5283 03:31:28,680 --> 03:31:29,440 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: pumping stations, 5284 03:31:29,480 --> 03:31:31,480 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: drainage system, rainwater 5285 03:31:31,480 --> 03:31:51,480 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: rainwater harvesting and storage facilities at saka po kung may identified po ang MGB na mga aquifer doon sa area, we encourage po na mag-develop na sila ng mga water wells doon sa area, chargeable po doon sa tinatawag po namin SDMP po ng mga mining companies. 5286 03:31:52,060 --> 03:31:53,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Unfortunately, Director, 5287 03:31:54,160 --> 03:31:58,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may concern sa mga kababayan natin doon naman sa home on home. 5288 03:31:59,480 --> 03:32:01,440 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung islang yun, dahil yung 5289 03:32:01,440 --> 03:32:03,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mining doon, ang inaalala 5290 03:32:03,780 --> 03:32:05,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nila ay compromising or 5291 03:32:05,640 --> 03:32:06,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nakaka-apekto 5292 03:32:06,980 --> 03:32:08,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mismo sa water supply 5293 03:32:08,820 --> 03:32:10,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng isla. 5294 03:32:14,360 --> 03:32:15,480 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Kasama po sila 5295 03:32:15,480 --> 03:32:17,100 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: doon sa aming, particularly 5296 03:32:17,100 --> 03:32:19,240 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: doon sa mga mining 5297 03:32:19,240 --> 03:32:21,480 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: company na malalapit 5298 03:32:22,040 --> 03:32:22,840 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: sa isa't isa po. 5299 03:32:22,840 --> 03:32:24,360 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Kasama po doon sa 5300 03:32:24,360 --> 03:32:26,760 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: minomonitor namin doon sa 5301 03:32:26,760 --> 03:32:28,720 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung pong 5302 03:32:28,720 --> 03:32:30,720 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: pag-implement ng SDMP po nila 5303 03:32:30,720 --> 03:32:32,720 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: as part of the 5304 03:32:32,720 --> 03:32:35,720 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: action po doon, Super El Niño po. 5305 03:32:36,520 --> 03:32:38,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tapos yung Dinagat Islands naman po 5306 03:32:38,720 --> 03:32:42,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na may substantial open pit mining ngayon, 5307 03:32:42,720 --> 03:32:44,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: vulnerable din po sa tagtuyot. 5308 03:32:44,720 --> 03:32:47,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So parang may mga 5309 03:32:47,720 --> 03:32:50,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nagko-converge na negative factors. 5310 03:32:50,720 --> 03:32:52,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tuyo yung vegetation, 5311 03:32:52,720 --> 03:32:56,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may mining, minsan open pit mining pa na substantial. 5312 03:32:56,720 --> 03:32:58,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tapos, 5313 03:32:58,520 --> 03:33:00,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: okay, may SDMP, may 5314 03:33:00,520 --> 03:33:02,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: water resource development measures. 5315 03:33:02,520 --> 03:33:04,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero sa ibang area, 5316 03:33:04,520 --> 03:33:06,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tulad nga ng Homonhon, 5317 03:33:06,520 --> 03:33:09,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: eh, mismo yung water source nila ay 5318 03:33:09,520 --> 03:33:11,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: threatened. 5319 03:33:13,520 --> 03:33:15,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Isa po doon sa 5320 03:33:15,520 --> 03:33:17,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: isa po doon sa tinututukan namin po 5321 03:33:17,520 --> 03:33:19,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: sa Homonhon, yung 5322 03:33:19,520 --> 03:33:21,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: efekto po ng mining operations sa 5323 03:33:21,520 --> 03:33:23,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: water source nila. At 5324 03:33:23,520 --> 03:33:25,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: just recently po, we have 5325 03:33:25,520 --> 03:33:27,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: sent an investigating team 5326 03:33:27,520 --> 03:33:29,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: doon sa area to 5327 03:33:29,520 --> 03:33:31,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: study and assess po yung 5328 03:33:31,520 --> 03:33:33,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung mining operation 5329 03:33:33,520 --> 03:33:36,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: abis-abis po yung 5330 03:33:36,520 --> 03:33:38,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung efekto nung operation nila sa 5331 03:33:38,520 --> 03:33:40,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: water source po ng community doon sa area po. 5332 03:33:40,520 --> 03:33:42,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: We will come up with the 5333 03:33:42,520 --> 03:33:44,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: report po sooner po. 5334 03:33:44,520 --> 03:33:46,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Katarating lang po nung team. 5335 03:33:46,520 --> 03:33:48,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po. Yes sir, bago si 5336 03:33:48,520 --> 03:33:50,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Asec Cabalda, pag sinasabi nyo po 5337 03:33:50,520 --> 03:33:52,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sooner than later matatapos 5338 03:33:52,520 --> 03:33:54,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung report, mga kailan po? 5339 03:33:54,520 --> 03:33:56,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: We have some, ah, 5340 03:33:56,520 --> 03:33:58,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: yung report po ipa-finalize po 5341 03:33:58,520 --> 03:34:00,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: this week and ah, 5342 03:34:00,520 --> 03:34:02,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: ah, it will be 5343 03:34:02,520 --> 03:34:04,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: it will be forwarded po sa 5344 03:34:04,520 --> 03:34:06,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: sa DNR 5345 03:34:06,520 --> 03:34:08,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: for proper implementation po nung 5346 03:34:08,520 --> 03:34:10,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: recommendation po ng team. 5347 03:34:10,520 --> 03:34:12,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And kung ma-confirm po ninyo yung 5348 03:34:12,520 --> 03:34:14,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ah, concerns ng mga kababayan 5349 03:34:14,520 --> 03:34:16,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: natin doon sa Homonhon Island na 5350 03:34:16,520 --> 03:34:18,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nakaka-compromise, 5351 03:34:18,520 --> 03:34:20,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ah, nakaka-efekto nung 5352 03:34:20,520 --> 03:34:22,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: masama sa water supply nila, 5353 03:34:22,520 --> 03:34:24,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ano yung mga, sa ganung klaseng 5354 03:34:24,520 --> 03:34:26,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sitwasyon, like not particular to 5355 03:34:26,520 --> 03:34:28,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Homonhon Island lamang, pero pag 5356 03:34:28,520 --> 03:34:30,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na-find ng bureau nyo 5357 03:34:30,520 --> 03:34:32,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na yung pagmimina 5358 03:34:32,520 --> 03:34:34,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ay nakakasama sa water 5359 03:34:34,520 --> 03:34:36,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: supply, ano yung mga posibleng 5360 03:34:36,520 --> 03:34:38,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ah, recommendations ninyo sa department? 5361 03:34:38,520 --> 03:34:40,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Sa experience po 5362 03:34:40,520 --> 03:34:42,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: ng MGB ah, we can ah, 5363 03:34:42,520 --> 03:34:44,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: we can issue a temporary 5364 03:34:44,520 --> 03:34:46,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: suspension of the operation po. 5365 03:34:46,520 --> 03:34:48,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Then ah, until 5366 03:34:48,520 --> 03:34:50,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: such time that the mining company ah, 5367 03:34:50,520 --> 03:34:52,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: ah, came up 5368 03:34:52,520 --> 03:34:54,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: with a, come up with a 5369 03:34:54,520 --> 03:34:56,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: plan for ah, for the 5370 03:34:56,520 --> 03:34:58,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: ah, 5371 03:34:58,520 --> 03:35:00,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: for the ah, safe source 5372 03:35:00,520 --> 03:35:02,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: nung water supply po nung community. 5373 03:35:04,520 --> 03:35:06,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, salamat Director. Pero kung 5374 03:35:06,520 --> 03:35:08,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mapag-alaman ninyo na 5375 03:35:08,520 --> 03:35:10,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kahit anong SDMP, hindi 5376 03:35:10,520 --> 03:35:12,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kayang isecure ng mining 5377 03:35:12,520 --> 03:35:14,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: company yung kaligtasan 5378 03:35:14,520 --> 03:35:16,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng tubig, has 5379 03:35:16,520 --> 03:35:18,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: it ever happened sa bureau nyo 5380 03:35:18,520 --> 03:35:20,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or nasa menu ba ng 5381 03:35:20,520 --> 03:35:22,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: possible recommendations nyo na 5382 03:35:22,520 --> 03:35:24,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: hindi lang temporary suspension 5383 03:35:24,520 --> 03:35:26,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kundi permanent cessation 5384 03:35:26,520 --> 03:35:28,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mining operations dahil nga 5385 03:35:28,520 --> 03:35:30,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nakakasama sa tubig 5386 03:35:30,520 --> 03:35:32,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mismo doon. Nangyari na po ba 5387 03:35:32,520 --> 03:35:34,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yun or posibleng po bang mangyari yun? 5388 03:35:34,520 --> 03:35:36,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: Ah, hindi ba po nangyari, but posibleng 5389 03:35:36,520 --> 03:35:38,520 MGB Director Larry M. Heradez: pong mangyari po yun. 5390 03:35:38,520 --> 03:35:40,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, that's enough for now no, posibleng 5391 03:35:40,520 --> 03:35:42,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mangyari. Ah, hihilingin ko 5392 03:35:42,520 --> 03:35:44,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na lang sa Office of the Secretary na kapag 5393 03:35:44,520 --> 03:35:46,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na-aprubahan nyo na po yung report 5394 03:35:46,520 --> 03:35:48,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kung makahingi din po ng kopya nung 5395 03:35:48,520 --> 03:35:50,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: subcommittee, yung subcommittee. Salamat 5396 03:35:50,520 --> 03:35:52,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Secretary, salamat 5397 03:35:52,520 --> 03:35:54,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Director. Ah yes, of course, ask 5398 03:35:54,520 --> 03:35:56,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: about the mining concerns. 5399 03:35:56,520 --> 03:35:58,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: Maraming salamat po Madam Chair 5400 03:35:58,520 --> 03:36:00,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: with the permission of the Secretary. 5401 03:36:00,520 --> 03:36:02,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: Just on the Humonon Island 5402 03:36:02,520 --> 03:36:04,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: po, so first 5403 03:36:04,520 --> 03:36:06,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: time po nakaroon ng water system 5404 03:36:06,520 --> 03:36:08,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: in fact sa Humonon. By 5405 03:36:08,520 --> 03:36:10,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: way of a collective project 5406 03:36:10,520 --> 03:36:12,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: na pinagpanoan ng 5407 03:36:12,520 --> 03:36:14,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: G1 water supply 5408 03:36:14,520 --> 03:36:16,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: at ito ay sinuportahan po ng mga mining 5409 03:36:16,520 --> 03:36:18,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: companies doon. Kaya for the first time po 5410 03:36:18,520 --> 03:36:20,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: meron na pong dumadaloy na 5411 03:36:20,520 --> 03:36:22,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: malinis na tubig sa kabuuan ng 5412 03:36:22,520 --> 03:36:24,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: Humonon. Ito yung mga bagay po 5413 03:36:24,520 --> 03:36:26,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: na nangyayari, hindi lamang tupo sa Humonon. 5414 03:36:26,520 --> 03:36:28,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: At sa mga iba pong mga 5415 03:36:28,520 --> 03:36:30,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: minahan kung saan 5416 03:36:30,520 --> 03:36:32,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: ang tubig ay napaka-kritikal. 5417 03:36:32,520 --> 03:36:34,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: Hindi lamang sa operation po, 5418 03:36:34,520 --> 03:36:36,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: pati sa mga taong aming 5419 03:36:36,520 --> 03:36:38,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: maaaring maistorbo. 5420 03:36:38,520 --> 03:36:40,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: Bagay po na binibigyan po namin ng atensyon 5421 03:36:40,520 --> 03:36:42,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: na bago kami 5422 03:36:42,520 --> 03:36:44,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: gumalaw, sinisiguro 5423 03:36:44,520 --> 03:36:46,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: po namin na kung meron man kaming 5424 03:36:46,520 --> 03:36:48,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: kumpetensya ang mangyayari sa pagkamit ng 5425 03:36:48,520 --> 03:36:50,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: tubig, sinisiguro po namin na 5426 03:36:50,520 --> 03:36:52,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: ang net positive water flow 5427 03:36:52,520 --> 03:36:54,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: should go to the community rather than 5428 03:36:54,520 --> 03:36:56,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: sa mga mining companies. Kaya meron kaming 5429 03:36:56,520 --> 03:36:58,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: binatawag ng mga closed circuit 5430 03:36:58,520 --> 03:37:00,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: water system para 5431 03:37:00,520 --> 03:37:02,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: tuloy-tuloy na tubig na nagagamit. 5432 03:37:02,520 --> 03:37:04,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: At kung sakasakali man, dagdag 5433 03:37:04,520 --> 03:37:06,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: lang po kung meron nang nauubos 5434 03:37:06,520 --> 03:37:08,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: o na-evaporate. Ganun po 5435 03:37:08,520 --> 03:37:10,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: ang sistema ang ginagawa po ng mga mining 5436 03:37:10,520 --> 03:37:12,520 DENR Assistant Secretary for Mining Concerns Michael V. Cabalda: companies. 5437 03:37:12,520 --> 03:37:14,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat ah, Sec. Of course, sorry Sec 5438 03:37:14,520 --> 03:37:16,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: before I acknowledge that. 5439 03:37:16,520 --> 03:37:18,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: On the same point, Madam Chair. Actually, 5440 03:37:18,520 --> 03:37:20,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: kami po ni 5441 03:37:20,520 --> 03:37:22,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: USEC-CP David ang pumunta doon mismo 5442 03:37:22,520 --> 03:37:24,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: sa Commonwealth and we spoke to 5443 03:37:24,520 --> 03:37:26,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: the different companies 5444 03:37:26,520 --> 03:37:28,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and requested 5445 03:37:28,520 --> 03:37:30,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: baka makatulong sila sa 5446 03:37:30,520 --> 03:37:32,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: water supply 5447 03:37:32,520 --> 03:37:34,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: nung island dahil may problema 5448 03:37:34,520 --> 03:37:36,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: nga doon. We went there about 2 years ago 5449 03:37:36,520 --> 03:37:38,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: and they exceeded naman po. 5450 03:37:38,520 --> 03:37:40,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Sec. Opo, 5451 03:37:40,520 --> 03:37:42,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I seem to recall nga, bigly na may 5452 03:37:42,520 --> 03:37:44,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ganung mga 5453 03:37:44,520 --> 03:37:46,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pag-inspect ninyo 5454 03:37:46,520 --> 03:37:48,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at saka mga findings. 5455 03:37:48,520 --> 03:37:50,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kailangan ko lang ibahagi sa inyo 5456 03:37:50,520 --> 03:37:52,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na abiding concern ito 5457 03:37:52,520 --> 03:37:54,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga kababayan natin 5458 03:37:54,520 --> 03:37:56,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Homonhon Island. Lalo na 5459 03:37:56,520 --> 03:37:58,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dahil isla sila. Kaya nga kanina 5460 03:37:58,520 --> 03:38:00,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: we were talking about pag-isla, mas 5461 03:38:00,520 --> 03:38:02,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kailangan ng desalination kasi mas sensitive 5462 03:38:02,520 --> 03:38:04,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung water source dahil 5463 03:38:04,520 --> 03:38:06,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mas maliit silang landmass. Hindi 5464 03:38:06,520 --> 03:38:08,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sila kasi laki ng Luzon 5465 03:38:08,520 --> 03:38:10,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: o ng Mindanao. 5466 03:38:10,520 --> 03:38:12,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mga isla-isla lalo na sa Visayas. 5467 03:38:12,520 --> 03:38:14,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And hanggang ngayon, 5468 03:38:14,520 --> 03:38:16,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ganun po yung concern nila na 5469 03:38:16,520 --> 03:38:18,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nagkompromiso, nakakaapekto 5470 03:38:18,520 --> 03:38:20,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng masama yung mining operations 5471 03:38:20,520 --> 03:38:22,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa water supply nila 5472 03:38:22,520 --> 03:38:24,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mismo. Which was 5473 03:38:24,520 --> 03:38:26,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: which is water source 5474 03:38:26,520 --> 03:38:28,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: talaga ng isla nila 5475 03:38:28,520 --> 03:38:30,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: even before the mining company supported 5476 03:38:30,520 --> 03:38:32,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung pagtayo ng water system. 5477 03:38:32,520 --> 03:38:34,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I leave it to them to 5478 03:38:34,520 --> 03:38:36,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: express their appreciation to the 5479 03:38:36,520 --> 03:38:38,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mining company for that water system. 5480 03:38:38,520 --> 03:38:40,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero yun nga po, I have 5481 03:38:40,520 --> 03:38:42,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: to tell you na hanggang ngayon 5482 03:38:42,520 --> 03:38:44,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nag-aalala talaga sila dun sa 5483 03:38:44,520 --> 03:38:46,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mismong original na 5484 03:38:46,520 --> 03:38:48,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: water source na yan. So, 5485 03:38:48,520 --> 03:38:50,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I'm looking forward to 5486 03:38:50,520 --> 03:38:52,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: if the Secretary allows to 5487 03:38:52,520 --> 03:38:54,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: receiving a copy of that report ng 5488 03:38:54,520 --> 03:38:56,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: MGB. Maraming salamat po 5489 03:38:56,520 --> 03:38:58,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para doon, Sec. Okay, 5490 03:38:58,520 --> 03:39:00,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: some questions now for the 5491 03:39:00,520 --> 03:39:02,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Environment Management Bureau 5492 03:39:02,520 --> 03:39:04,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: EMB. Ah, yes, sir. 5493 03:39:04,520 --> 03:39:06,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ah, sorry. Pangalan po rin 5494 03:39:06,520 --> 03:39:08,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ni Atty. Janice. Nakikita ko. 5495 03:39:08,520 --> 03:39:10,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Director 5496 03:39:10,520 --> 03:39:12,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mathias. Yes, sir. 5497 03:39:14,520 --> 03:39:16,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ilan pong 5498 03:39:16,520 --> 03:39:18,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: gumaga ng 5499 03:39:18,520 --> 03:39:20,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: methane analyzer 5500 03:39:20,520 --> 03:39:22,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: meron po ang EMB 5501 03:39:22,520 --> 03:39:24,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa ngayon? At saka 5502 03:39:24,520 --> 03:39:26,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa ang saang mga region 5503 03:39:26,520 --> 03:39:28,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nakadistribute sila? 5504 03:39:30,520 --> 03:39:32,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: For methane 5505 03:39:32,520 --> 03:39:34,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: analyzer po, ma'am, 5506 03:39:34,520 --> 03:39:36,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we have one previously 5507 03:39:36,520 --> 03:39:38,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: being used in Navotas 5508 03:39:38,520 --> 03:39:40,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and currently 5509 03:39:40,520 --> 03:39:42,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: with the budget for 2027 5510 03:39:42,520 --> 03:39:44,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we intend to procure 5511 03:39:44,520 --> 03:39:46,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: with the budget of 2026 5512 03:39:46,520 --> 03:39:48,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we intend to procure 5513 03:39:48,520 --> 03:39:50,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: five 5514 03:39:50,520 --> 03:39:52,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: five additional po para po dito 5515 03:39:52,520 --> 03:39:54,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: sa mga landfills that 5516 03:39:54,520 --> 03:39:56,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we are monitoring. 5517 03:39:56,520 --> 03:39:58,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And I think this is related din po 5518 03:39:58,520 --> 03:40:00,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: dun sa methane that 5519 03:40:00,520 --> 03:40:02,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: being released po by the 5520 03:40:02,520 --> 03:40:04,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: sanitary landfills and 5521 03:40:04,520 --> 03:40:06,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we have already coordinated 5522 03:40:06,520 --> 03:40:08,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: with our regional offices 5523 03:40:08,520 --> 03:40:10,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: in fact upon the instruction of our 5524 03:40:10,520 --> 03:40:12,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: sila Secretary 5525 03:40:12,520 --> 03:40:14,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and the USEC for field 5526 03:40:14,520 --> 03:40:16,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: operations, we are monitoring po 5527 03:40:16,520 --> 03:40:18,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: yung requirement of venting 5528 03:40:18,520 --> 03:40:20,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: because this is very 5529 03:40:20,520 --> 03:40:22,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: critical po. Ito po yung isa 5530 03:40:22,520 --> 03:40:24,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: sa mga nagiging dahilan po 5531 03:40:24,520 --> 03:40:26,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ng pagkakaroon ng mga 5532 03:40:26,520 --> 03:40:28,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: pagkakasunog po ng ating mga 5533 03:40:28,520 --> 03:40:30,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: sanitary landfills. So 5534 03:40:30,520 --> 03:40:32,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: aside from that, 5535 03:40:32,520 --> 03:40:34,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: not only the monitoring of the 5536 03:40:34,520 --> 03:40:36,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: actual methane that is being released 5537 03:40:36,520 --> 03:40:38,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: but also the fact that 5538 03:40:38,520 --> 03:40:40,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: it is being released po. 5539 03:40:40,520 --> 03:40:42,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Otherwise, 5540 03:40:42,520 --> 03:40:44,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: pwede pong pag-umpisan po ito ng 5541 03:40:44,520 --> 03:40:46,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: explosion and spontaneous combustion po. 5542 03:40:46,520 --> 03:40:48,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So ito po yung mga bagay na 5543 03:40:48,520 --> 03:40:49,200 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: minomonitored po natin. 5544 03:40:49,200 --> 03:40:52,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero seryoso, isang methane analyzer lang 5545 03:40:52,520 --> 03:40:54,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa ngayon nasa Navotas? 5546 03:40:54,520 --> 03:40:56,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ito ba yung kinailangan nyo panghiramin 5547 03:40:56,520 --> 03:40:58,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mula sa Region 4A 5548 03:40:58,520 --> 03:41:00,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nung panahon ng Navotas Landfill Fire? 5549 03:41:00,520 --> 03:41:02,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Ito po yun ma'am. And 5550 03:41:02,520 --> 03:41:04,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: based on that experience, 5551 03:41:04,520 --> 03:41:06,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: nag-procure na po kami 5552 03:41:06,520 --> 03:41:08,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ng additional analyzers po. 5553 03:41:08,520 --> 03:41:10,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Additional five? 5554 03:41:10,520 --> 03:41:12,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Opo. Pero may 5555 03:41:12,520 --> 03:41:14,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 397 sanitary landfills 5556 03:41:14,520 --> 03:41:16,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Pilipinas at hindi pa 5557 03:41:16,520 --> 03:41:19,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nabibilang doon yung mga illegal dump sites. 5558 03:41:19,400 --> 03:41:20,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: For 5559 03:41:20,520 --> 03:41:22,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: 2027 5560 03:41:22,520 --> 03:41:24,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: budget ma'am, we intend to complete at least 5561 03:41:24,520 --> 03:41:26,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: dun sa 24 5562 03:41:28,520 --> 03:41:30,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: category 4 landfills po na meron 5563 03:41:30,520 --> 03:41:32,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: po tayo that we are monitoring. And 5564 03:41:32,520 --> 03:41:34,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: our 5565 03:41:34,520 --> 03:41:36,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: gas analyzers naman po can be 5566 03:41:36,520 --> 03:41:38,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: mobile. It can be used by 5567 03:41:38,520 --> 03:41:40,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: other regions as well or 5568 03:41:40,520 --> 03:41:42,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: for example in a particular region 5569 03:41:42,520 --> 03:41:44,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: there are three landfills. So 5570 03:41:44,520 --> 03:41:46,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: pwede rin pong isang 5571 03:41:46,520 --> 03:41:48,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: analyzer po 5572 03:41:48,520 --> 03:41:50,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: magagamit po nila po ito sa 5573 03:41:50,520 --> 03:41:52,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: tatlong sanitary landfills po. 5574 03:41:54,520 --> 03:41:56,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So may isang 5575 03:41:56,520 --> 03:41:58,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ngayon, balak nyong mag-procure 5576 03:41:58,520 --> 03:42:00,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng lima pa ngayong taon. So anim. 5577 03:42:00,520 --> 03:42:02,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Gusto nyong dagdagan ng 24 5578 03:42:02,520 --> 03:42:04,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: by next year? So 30 lahat? 5579 03:42:04,520 --> 03:42:06,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: To complete 5580 03:42:06,520 --> 03:42:08,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the 24 po. At least for the 5581 03:42:08,520 --> 03:42:10,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: category 5582 03:42:10,520 --> 03:42:12,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: 4 landfills po. Ito po yung mga 5583 03:42:12,520 --> 03:42:14,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: malalaking landfills na po natin. 5584 03:42:14,520 --> 03:42:16,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At yung 24 na analyzer 5585 03:42:16,520 --> 03:42:18,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sasapat na ba dun sa category 5586 03:42:18,520 --> 03:42:20,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 4 landfills sa buong bansa? 5587 03:42:20,520 --> 03:42:22,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Oo po. Tingin po namin na 5588 03:42:22,520 --> 03:42:24,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: supesyente na po ito. 5589 03:42:26,520 --> 03:42:28,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pero syempre yung illegal dump sites 5590 03:42:28,520 --> 03:42:30,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: hindi pa po nabibilang doon sa proportion? 5591 03:42:30,520 --> 03:42:32,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Oo po. 5592 03:42:32,520 --> 03:42:34,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Ang ginagawa po natin ngayon 5593 03:42:34,520 --> 03:42:36,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: nagigigpit po tayo pagdating 5594 03:42:36,520 --> 03:42:38,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: po sa illegal dump sites. 5595 03:42:38,520 --> 03:42:40,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Dahil po nire-require po ng batas 5596 03:42:40,520 --> 03:42:42,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: that they should be closed. 5597 03:42:42,520 --> 03:42:44,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And right now based on our inventory 5598 03:42:44,520 --> 03:42:46,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: there are 77 5599 03:42:46,520 --> 03:42:48,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: open dump sites. But 5600 03:42:48,520 --> 03:42:50,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: upon instruction and the strict 5601 03:42:50,520 --> 03:42:52,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: monitoring po on the 5602 03:42:52,520 --> 03:42:54,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: pagdating po dito sa closure 5603 03:42:54,520 --> 03:42:56,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ng ating mga open dump sites 5604 03:42:56,520 --> 03:42:58,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: I will just have to 5605 03:42:58,520 --> 03:43:00,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: confer with the solid waste management 5606 03:43:00,520 --> 03:43:02,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: division but I think it's already down to 5607 03:43:02,520 --> 03:43:05,800 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: 30 plus na lang po. Yung mga open dump sites po. 5608 03:43:05,800 --> 03:43:06,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Down from 77? 5609 03:43:06,520 --> 03:43:08,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Oo po. But ang 5610 03:43:08,520 --> 03:43:10,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ang importante po dito 5611 03:43:10,520 --> 03:43:12,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: is that not just closing the 5612 03:43:12,520 --> 03:43:14,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: dump site but providing 5613 03:43:14,520 --> 03:43:16,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: assistance also to the local government 5614 03:43:16,520 --> 03:43:18,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: units. Kasi hindi po 5615 03:43:18,520 --> 03:43:20,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: natin kaagyet 5616 03:43:20,520 --> 03:43:22,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: na mapapasara ito nang wala 5617 03:43:22,520 --> 03:43:24,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: pong mga alternatibo. 5618 03:43:24,520 --> 03:43:26,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: That's why part of the program that 5619 03:43:26,520 --> 03:43:28,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we're doing is that 5620 03:43:28,520 --> 03:43:30,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we are engaging the 5621 03:43:30,520 --> 03:43:32,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: recyclers, 5622 03:43:32,520 --> 03:43:34,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: those that are involved in 5623 03:43:34,520 --> 03:43:36,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: upcycling para po 5624 03:43:36,520 --> 03:43:38,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: I think sila sa mga local government units 5625 03:43:38,520 --> 03:43:40,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: na mabawasan po 5626 03:43:40,520 --> 03:43:42,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: yung waste na napupunta 5627 03:43:42,520 --> 03:43:44,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: po sa sanitary landfill. 5628 03:43:44,520 --> 03:43:46,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So kasama po yun na 5629 03:43:46,520 --> 03:43:48,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: pag they can have an arrangement 5630 03:43:48,520 --> 03:43:50,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ito po yung kinaganda po 5631 03:43:50,520 --> 03:43:52,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: nung ating EPR law. Kasi 5632 03:43:52,520 --> 03:43:54,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: they would be able to get credits 5633 03:43:54,520 --> 03:43:56,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and at the same time these credits can be 5634 03:43:56,520 --> 03:43:58,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: eventually be given 5635 03:43:58,520 --> 03:44:00,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: to the obliged enterprises. 5636 03:44:00,520 --> 03:44:02,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So dito po sa sistema 5637 03:44:02,520 --> 03:44:04,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ganito and coupled 5638 03:44:04,520 --> 03:44:06,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: with the strict implementation of 5639 03:44:06,520 --> 03:44:08,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the Solid Waste Management Act, 5640 03:44:08,520 --> 03:44:10,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the local government units right now 5641 03:44:10,520 --> 03:44:12,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: are inclined or 5642 03:44:12,520 --> 03:44:14,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: more excited in participating 5643 03:44:14,520 --> 03:44:16,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: po dito sa mga programa po natin 5644 03:44:16,520 --> 03:44:18,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and ang obligasyon po natin 5645 03:44:18,520 --> 03:44:20,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: on the part of the DNR, i-link 5646 03:44:20,520 --> 03:44:22,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: po sila dito po sa mga existing 5647 03:44:22,520 --> 03:44:24,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: recyclers po natin. 5648 03:44:24,520 --> 03:44:26,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: You took the words right out of my 5649 03:44:26,520 --> 03:44:28,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mouth, Director Matias. Higit sa pag 5650 03:44:28,520 --> 03:44:30,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: procure ng mas maraming methane 5651 03:44:30,520 --> 03:44:32,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: analyzers, talagang yung 5652 03:44:32,520 --> 03:44:34,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mas malawak 5653 03:44:34,520 --> 03:44:36,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at maggaling na implementasyon ng 5654 03:44:36,520 --> 03:44:38,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Solid Waste Management Act para hindi 5655 03:44:38,520 --> 03:44:40,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tayo forever nakaasa sa mga 5656 03:44:40,520 --> 03:44:42,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: landfills at saka mga dump sites 5657 03:44:42,520 --> 03:44:44,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: whether legal or illegal. 5658 03:44:44,520 --> 03:44:46,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Sige po. 5659 03:44:46,520 --> 03:44:48,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ngayon EMB is also supposed 5660 03:44:48,520 --> 03:44:50,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: to procure nine units 5661 03:44:50,520 --> 03:44:52,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng Continuous Ambient Air 5662 03:44:52,520 --> 03:44:54,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Quality Monitoring Station 5663 03:44:54,520 --> 03:44:56,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: or AQMS at 25 5664 03:44:56,520 --> 03:44:58,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: million pesos per unit 5665 03:44:58,520 --> 03:45:00,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: o suma total 5666 03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:09,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 225 million pesos. Ilang kasalukuyang AQMS stations mayroon ang ating bansa? 5667 03:45:10,240 --> 03:45:19,940 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: We have I think 100 plus po, 130 or 100. Give or take po kasi minsan po may mga under maintenance. 5668 03:45:19,940 --> 03:45:29,220 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: But this equipment po, yung continuous ambient air monitoring stations po natin are capable of providing real-time results. 5669 03:45:29,220 --> 03:45:47,420 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Mapapansin po natin that in the past weeks or month na we've been issuing advisories on HACE, we've been able to look at the results and inform the public and coordinate with the Department of Health pagdating po dito sa mga findings po natin. 5670 03:45:47,420 --> 03:45:59,200 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So napakalaking bagay po nito. If we will be given the opportunity to procure additional units of continuous ambient air monitoring stations. 5671 03:45:59,220 --> 03:46:11,720 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: We are working with the air quality monitoring station but more than the procurement of the equipment po, since nabanggit nyo po na medyo mahal po ito, we are working with the other sectors as well. 5672 03:46:12,960 --> 03:46:19,620 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Kasi mayroon po tayong continuous emission monitoring systems that are being installed po sa mga factories nationwide. 5673 03:46:19,880 --> 03:46:28,940 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So we are trying to link those results, real-time results to our system as well so that we will be able to have a network of those. 5674 03:46:29,220 --> 03:46:43,680 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And they also have, the local government units are also several using sensors, low-cost sensors in having the real-time availability of results as well po. 5675 03:46:43,680 --> 03:46:58,320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So ang importante po sa atin, we will be able to, through an agreement with these local government units, we will be able to have a wide network of air quality stations, be it cams or sensors po. 5676 03:46:58,320 --> 03:46:58,780 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So that 5677 03:46:58,960 --> 03:47:00,320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we will be able to 5678 03:47:00,320 --> 03:47:02,820 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: come up with a more or less 5679 03:47:02,820 --> 03:47:03,860 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: precise 5680 03:47:03,860 --> 03:47:07,120 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: for example, prediction 5681 03:47:07,120 --> 03:47:09,500 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: by way of 5682 03:47:09,500 --> 03:47:11,180 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: modeling, for example, in the next 5683 03:47:11,180 --> 03:47:12,980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: three hours, where will be the 5684 03:47:12,980 --> 03:47:14,580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: exceedance of pollutant maybe. So, 5685 03:47:14,980 --> 03:47:16,700 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: that would be the ideal 5686 03:47:16,700 --> 03:47:18,540 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: setup that we want to have. 5687 03:47:20,100 --> 03:47:21,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Pag pinagsaman 5688 03:47:21,300 --> 03:47:23,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nyo po yung sensors na mga LGUs 5689 03:47:23,300 --> 03:47:24,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tapos yung mga CAMs nung 5690 03:47:24,840 --> 03:47:26,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: bureau ninyo, 5691 03:47:26,120 --> 03:47:28,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: so, sasapat na ba yung 5692 03:47:28,220 --> 03:47:30,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 130 CAMs 5693 03:47:30,320 --> 03:47:31,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: that you have right now or 5694 03:47:31,640 --> 03:47:33,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kailangan nyo pang dagdagan? 5695 03:47:34,520 --> 03:47:36,080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: For the, right now, 5696 03:47:36,200 --> 03:47:38,200 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: I was informed na 137 po 5697 03:47:38,200 --> 03:47:39,560 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and plus 9 po ito. 5698 03:47:40,000 --> 03:47:41,980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Yung CAMs po natin are what 5699 03:47:41,980 --> 03:47:44,220 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we say po as reference method 5700 03:47:44,220 --> 03:47:46,320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: dahil po yung mga sensors 5701 03:47:46,320 --> 03:47:47,760 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: natin, meron po yung mga 5702 03:47:47,760 --> 03:47:50,100 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: give or take margin of 5703 03:47:50,100 --> 03:47:52,140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: errors po. So, but 5704 03:47:52,140 --> 03:47:54,280 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: nonetheless, for purposes of 5705 03:47:54,280 --> 03:47:56,100 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: PM 5706 03:47:56,100 --> 03:47:57,460 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: 10 and 2.5, 5707 03:47:58,360 --> 03:47:59,980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: medyo accurate naman po yung mga sensors 5708 03:47:59,980 --> 03:48:02,420 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: but the ideal target is 526. 5709 03:48:03,240 --> 03:48:04,340 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Nationwide po ito. 5710 03:48:05,980 --> 03:48:08,380 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: But one thing's important po, 5711 03:48:08,940 --> 03:48:10,120 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: currently, the bureau 5712 03:48:10,120 --> 03:48:11,460 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: is looking at 5713 03:48:11,460 --> 03:48:12,760 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: probably 5714 03:48:12,760 --> 03:48:16,160 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: transitioning to another system 5715 03:48:16,160 --> 03:48:18,240 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: which is less costly po 5716 03:48:18,240 --> 03:48:20,140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: kasi nabanggit nga po natin na medyo 5717 03:48:20,140 --> 03:48:21,840 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: mahal po ang equipment 5718 03:48:21,840 --> 03:48:23,920 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and over time, nagkakaroon po ito 5719 03:48:23,920 --> 03:48:25,880 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ng wear and tear and eventually, 5720 03:48:26,100 --> 03:48:28,220 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: siguro 5-10 years, yung mga na-procure 5721 03:48:28,220 --> 03:48:29,820 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: in the past, mapapalitan na rin po. 5722 03:48:30,000 --> 03:48:32,040 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So, having that 5723 03:48:32,040 --> 03:48:33,280 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ideal number, medyo 5724 03:48:33,280 --> 03:48:36,360 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: nasa wishlist po natin yun. 5725 03:48:36,460 --> 03:48:37,980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: But nonetheless, if we can look for 5726 03:48:37,980 --> 03:48:39,840 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: alternatives that is less costly 5727 03:48:39,840 --> 03:48:41,900 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and it will be efficient 5728 03:48:41,900 --> 03:48:44,140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: in terms of the management of air quality 5729 03:48:44,140 --> 03:48:46,040 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: rin naman po, we would go for 5730 03:48:46,040 --> 03:48:47,540 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: that alternative din po. 5731 03:48:48,260 --> 03:48:49,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, hindi po kayo nagre-request na mga 5732 03:48:49,940 --> 03:48:51,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dagdag na CAMs for next year. 5733 03:48:51,940 --> 03:48:54,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ife-face inyo na po ba yung mas murang 5734 03:48:54,000 --> 03:48:54,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: system? 5735 03:48:54,580 --> 03:48:56,620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Doon sa mix nyo 5736 03:48:56,620 --> 03:48:58,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga air quality monitoring systems? 5737 03:48:59,560 --> 03:49:00,660 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Ano po yun, ma'am? 5738 03:49:01,040 --> 03:49:02,580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: It will be included 5739 03:49:02,580 --> 03:49:04,180 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: as part of our plan. 5740 03:49:05,200 --> 03:49:06,380 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: But we will 5741 03:49:06,380 --> 03:49:08,540 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: do with what is 5742 03:49:08,540 --> 03:49:10,600 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: provided to us by the government. 5743 03:49:10,960 --> 03:49:12,720 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So, if it will be 9 additional 5744 03:49:12,720 --> 03:49:13,940 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: CAMs, there will be 5745 03:49:13,940 --> 03:49:16,180 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: 137 plus 9 5746 03:49:16,180 --> 03:49:18,580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: units for next year. 5747 03:49:18,660 --> 03:49:20,580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And it will be distributed naman po 5748 03:49:20,580 --> 03:49:22,860 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: all over the country 5749 03:49:22,860 --> 03:49:23,700 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: based on the 5750 03:49:23,700 --> 03:49:24,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the 5751 03:49:24,580 --> 03:49:27,680 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: number of industries 5752 03:49:27,680 --> 03:49:29,140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: that would be 5753 03:49:29,140 --> 03:49:31,840 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: possible area for pollution 5754 03:49:31,840 --> 03:49:33,100 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: or our ambience. 5755 03:49:33,380 --> 03:49:35,240 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So that we will be able to get 5756 03:49:35,240 --> 03:49:37,420 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: more or less represented 5757 03:49:37,420 --> 03:49:38,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: results po and 5758 03:49:38,520 --> 03:49:40,800 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: to provide timely 5759 03:49:40,800 --> 03:49:44,860 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: information to the public. 5760 03:49:45,500 --> 03:49:47,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, by next year's budget debates, 5761 03:49:48,400 --> 03:49:49,480 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na-identify nyo na yung 5762 03:49:49,480 --> 03:49:51,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mas murang system at 5763 03:49:51,540 --> 03:49:53,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: baka yun na yung ipopropose nyo 5764 03:49:53,400 --> 03:49:54,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa 2028? 5765 03:49:54,580 --> 03:49:54,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Budget? 5766 03:49:56,120 --> 03:49:56,980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Hopefully po. 5767 03:49:57,340 --> 03:49:59,800 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Right now, we're talking with 5768 03:49:59,800 --> 03:50:01,580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: previously po, 5769 03:50:01,700 --> 03:50:03,140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we're talking with UP Care 5770 03:50:03,140 --> 03:50:05,360 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and also with 5771 03:50:05,360 --> 03:50:07,160 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Clean Air Asia for the 5772 03:50:07,160 --> 03:50:09,620 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: programs po on having 5773 03:50:09,620 --> 03:50:11,760 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: a sensor. We will continue 5774 03:50:11,760 --> 03:50:13,560 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: with the talks po para po at least 5775 03:50:13,560 --> 03:50:15,680 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: meron na po kami ma-report po sa inyo 5776 03:50:15,680 --> 03:50:16,180 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: next year. 5777 03:50:16,880 --> 03:50:17,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Good luck with that. 5778 03:50:20,120 --> 03:50:21,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Follow-up questions, 5779 03:50:21,500 --> 03:50:23,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: medyo yung iba na talaki na rin natin. 5780 03:50:24,580 --> 03:50:26,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Nakapaghanda na ba ang EMB 5781 03:50:26,100 --> 03:50:28,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng plano para magsagawa 5782 03:50:28,460 --> 03:50:29,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mas frequent monitoring 5783 03:50:29,940 --> 03:50:31,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mga landfills, pati po ang mga 5784 03:50:31,780 --> 03:50:33,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: thermal energy plants 5785 03:50:33,240 --> 03:50:35,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa fire hazards 5786 03:50:35,540 --> 03:50:37,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at air pollution concerns? 5787 03:50:37,940 --> 03:50:39,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At makakaasa ba yung ating bayan 5788 03:50:39,740 --> 03:50:41,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng mas magandang, 5789 03:50:42,440 --> 03:50:44,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mas magaling na monitoring 5790 03:50:44,360 --> 03:50:46,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at updates sa air quality? 5791 03:50:47,200 --> 03:50:48,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Alimbawa, kaugnay din po yung 5792 03:50:48,500 --> 03:50:50,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: haze na galing din sa Indonesia. 5793 03:50:51,500 --> 03:50:53,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ano po? Lalo na po yung 5794 03:50:53,360 --> 03:50:54,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga kababayan natin, 5795 03:50:54,580 --> 03:50:56,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung nakatira sa southern at sa 5796 03:50:56,100 --> 03:50:57,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: central Philippines? 5797 03:50:58,900 --> 03:51:00,420 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Yes, Madam Senator. 5798 03:51:01,060 --> 03:51:02,080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: For the HACE po, 5799 03:51:03,840 --> 03:51:04,440 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the 5800 03:51:04,440 --> 03:51:05,800 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: secretaries already 5801 03:51:05,800 --> 03:51:08,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: wrote the Department of 5802 03:51:08,520 --> 03:51:10,560 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Foreign Affairs and informing them 5803 03:51:10,560 --> 03:51:12,580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: for us to have a 5804 03:51:12,580 --> 03:51:14,620 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: clear communication line 5805 03:51:14,620 --> 03:51:16,640 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: on the effects of the HACE po 5806 03:51:16,640 --> 03:51:18,040 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: sa atin, given that 5807 03:51:18,040 --> 03:51:19,740 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: based on the 5808 03:51:19,740 --> 03:51:22,220 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: results that we're showing, several 5809 03:51:22,220 --> 03:51:24,140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: local government units have 5810 03:51:24,580 --> 03:51:26,080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: declared suspension of work. 5811 03:51:26,080 --> 03:51:27,860 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So may mga, ito po yung mga 5812 03:51:27,860 --> 03:51:29,820 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: naging negative impact po sa atin 5813 03:51:29,820 --> 03:51:31,020 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and the secretaries already 5814 03:51:31,020 --> 03:51:33,500 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: coordinated with the DFA po 5815 03:51:33,500 --> 03:51:34,320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: for the possible 5816 03:51:34,320 --> 03:51:36,840 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: coordination 5817 03:51:36,840 --> 03:51:39,480 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: on the, pagdating naman po dito sa 5818 03:51:39,480 --> 03:51:41,720 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: source po ng HACE po natin. 5819 03:51:42,400 --> 03:51:44,080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And tungkol po dun sa 5820 03:51:44,080 --> 03:51:46,320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: tanong, pagdating po dito sa 5821 03:51:46,320 --> 03:51:48,140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: mga sanitary landfills, 5822 03:51:48,980 --> 03:51:50,580 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we have been 5823 03:51:50,580 --> 03:51:52,980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: kasama po natin 5824 03:51:52,980 --> 03:51:54,420 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: yung mga regional offices natin. 5825 03:51:54,420 --> 03:51:54,820 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And are 5826 03:51:54,820 --> 03:51:58,320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: regularly monitoring po. 5827 03:51:58,440 --> 03:51:59,960 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: In fact, this year alone, 5828 03:52:00,120 --> 03:52:01,780 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: we were able to do 5829 03:52:01,780 --> 03:52:04,240 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: may second round na po 5830 03:52:04,240 --> 03:52:06,120 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ng inspection po dito po sa ating mga 5831 03:52:06,120 --> 03:52:07,980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: category 4 sanitary landfills. 5832 03:52:08,120 --> 03:52:10,140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And for category 3 5833 03:52:10,140 --> 03:52:12,120 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: down to 1, the regional 5834 03:52:12,120 --> 03:52:13,420 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: offices are doing the 5835 03:52:13,420 --> 03:52:15,440 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: inspections. And 5836 03:52:15,440 --> 03:52:17,820 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: based on monitoring, 5837 03:52:18,040 --> 03:52:19,660 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: yung first round po, we've already 5838 03:52:19,660 --> 03:52:22,140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: wrote communications 5839 03:52:22,140 --> 03:52:24,320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: to the local government units, 5840 03:52:24,420 --> 03:52:26,080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the ILG, and the 5841 03:52:26,080 --> 03:52:27,980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: proponent of the sanitary landfills, 5842 03:52:28,080 --> 03:52:30,340 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: informing them of our findings. 5843 03:52:30,940 --> 03:52:32,440 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So ito pong round of inspection 5844 03:52:32,440 --> 03:52:34,300 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: would be to check whether 5845 03:52:34,300 --> 03:52:35,520 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: or not those 5846 03:52:35,520 --> 03:52:37,660 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: recommendations were actually 5847 03:52:37,660 --> 03:52:40,100 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: implemented or currently being 5848 03:52:40,100 --> 03:52:42,220 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: implemented by the project 5849 03:52:42,220 --> 03:52:44,000 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: proponent or the local government 5850 03:52:44,000 --> 03:52:45,980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: units. So tuloy-tuloy po 5851 03:52:45,980 --> 03:52:48,060 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: yung inspection natin. And 5852 03:52:48,060 --> 03:52:50,160 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: in fact, it's not only 5853 03:52:50,160 --> 03:52:52,200 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: checking whether or not may 5854 03:52:52,200 --> 03:52:54,140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: okay yung operational landfill, but 5855 03:52:54,140 --> 03:52:56,160 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: also checking, for 5856 03:52:56,160 --> 03:52:58,040 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: example, establishments, whether they 5857 03:52:58,040 --> 03:53:00,080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: are implementing the segregation at source. 5858 03:53:00,580 --> 03:53:02,180 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: So it will be part now of the 5859 03:53:02,180 --> 03:53:03,640 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: findings of the regional office 5860 03:53:03,640 --> 03:53:05,840 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: when they do inspection, whether these 5861 03:53:05,840 --> 03:53:08,000 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: establishments are actually complying 5862 03:53:08,000 --> 03:53:10,100 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: with the 9003 po. And also 5863 03:53:10,100 --> 03:53:11,980 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: the segregated compliance, 5864 03:53:12,420 --> 03:53:14,320 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: segregated collection, 5865 03:53:14,520 --> 03:53:16,260 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: and at the same time po, yung ating 5866 03:53:16,260 --> 03:53:18,180 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: MRFs, 5867 03:53:18,980 --> 03:53:20,140 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: whether or not they are 5868 03:53:20,140 --> 03:53:22,000 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: actually being used for the purpose, 5869 03:53:22,500 --> 03:53:23,920 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: for the intended purpose, 5870 03:53:24,140 --> 03:53:26,080 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: kung talaga po bang dinadaanan ito 5871 03:53:26,080 --> 03:53:28,220 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: ng ating mga ways 5872 03:53:28,220 --> 03:53:29,920 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: or yung collection is actually happening 5873 03:53:29,920 --> 03:53:31,460 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: at the MRFs po. 5874 03:53:32,880 --> 03:53:34,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Maraming salamat 5875 03:53:34,020 --> 03:53:35,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Director. So 5876 03:53:35,780 --> 03:53:38,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nabaybay nyo yung 5877 03:53:38,000 --> 03:53:39,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: maraming importante yung kailangan 5878 03:53:39,960 --> 03:53:41,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: natin gawin eh. Diba? Yung EPR 5879 03:53:41,940 --> 03:53:43,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at the upstream 5880 03:53:43,940 --> 03:53:45,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: and then downstream. Ito nga, segregation 5881 03:53:45,920 --> 03:53:47,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at source, yung mga MRFs, 5882 03:53:48,320 --> 03:53:49,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: recycling, upcycling. 5883 03:53:50,320 --> 03:53:52,420 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Alam na natin yan eh. Nandyan na yan sa batas eh. 5884 03:53:53,320 --> 03:53:53,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kung 5885 03:53:54,140 --> 03:53:56,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Iwan ko, Sek, makaisip 5886 03:53:56,020 --> 03:53:58,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng paraan ng DNR to lead 5887 03:53:58,080 --> 03:53:59,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: one big push 5888 03:53:59,380 --> 03:54:01,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa implementasyon. Maybe 5889 03:54:01,880 --> 03:54:04,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: this is not the time 5890 03:54:04,160 --> 03:54:05,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: to do it during the budget debate 5891 03:54:05,960 --> 03:54:07,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: but since we will keep in touch, 5892 03:54:07,920 --> 03:54:09,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Senate and Department, 5893 03:54:10,780 --> 03:54:11,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pag-isipan po natin. 5894 03:54:12,060 --> 03:54:14,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasi otherwise, baka umabot 5895 03:54:14,000 --> 03:54:16,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tayo sa point of no return 5896 03:54:16,060 --> 03:54:17,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na eh. Matrap, 5897 03:54:17,500 --> 03:54:19,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: masakal na tayo ng 5898 03:54:19,300 --> 03:54:21,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: napakaraming basura na hindi 5899 03:54:21,880 --> 03:54:23,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na natin talaga kayang i-manage. 5900 03:54:24,140 --> 03:54:25,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Because we're not using the available 5901 03:54:25,840 --> 03:54:27,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: solutions now. 5902 03:54:28,180 --> 03:54:29,640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair, if I may. Actually, 5903 03:54:29,820 --> 03:54:31,780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: are we talking specifically on EPR, 5904 03:54:32,080 --> 03:54:32,420 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Madam Chair? 5905 03:54:33,640 --> 03:54:34,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: In solid waste in general. 5906 03:54:35,800 --> 03:54:37,300 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: What we're 5907 03:54:37,300 --> 03:54:39,520 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: focusing on now, Madam Chair, 5908 03:54:40,040 --> 03:54:40,420 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: is 5909 03:54:40,420 --> 03:54:43,840 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: coordinating with certain LGUs, 5910 03:54:43,960 --> 03:54:46,000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: especially those that are 5911 03:54:46,000 --> 03:54:47,060 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: having difficulty 5912 03:54:47,060 --> 03:54:49,780 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: with the 5913 03:54:49,780 --> 03:54:51,860 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: use of the dump sites 5914 03:54:51,860 --> 03:54:53,740 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: that are supposed to be closed because of 5915 03:54:54,140 --> 03:54:55,640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: lack of 5916 03:54:55,640 --> 03:54:58,360 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: alternatives that are 5917 03:54:58,360 --> 03:55:00,000 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: affordable to them. 5918 03:55:00,840 --> 03:55:02,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We're coordinating 5919 03:55:02,120 --> 03:55:03,720 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: with them and hooking them up with 5920 03:55:03,720 --> 03:55:06,280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: recyclers and other. 5921 03:55:06,420 --> 03:55:08,140 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I said, we're coordinating 5922 03:55:08,140 --> 03:55:09,900 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: now with the Department of Agriculture 5923 03:55:09,900 --> 03:55:12,080 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: for the biodegradable 5924 03:55:12,080 --> 03:55:13,440 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: waste because 5925 03:55:13,440 --> 03:55:15,320 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: most of the 5926 03:55:15,320 --> 03:55:18,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: LGUs, yung biodegradable 5927 03:55:18,120 --> 03:55:20,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: nila, Madam Chair, is close to 5928 03:55:20,120 --> 03:55:21,680 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: 50% or some of them even 5929 03:55:21,680 --> 03:55:24,120 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: above 50%. So if you're able to 5930 03:55:24,140 --> 03:55:25,400 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: address this and 5931 03:55:25,400 --> 03:55:26,500 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: you 5932 03:55:26,500 --> 03:55:29,800 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: deduct the volume of 5933 03:55:29,800 --> 03:55:31,820 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: biodegradable waste going to the 5934 03:55:31,820 --> 03:55:34,040 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: landfills that produce 5935 03:55:34,040 --> 03:55:34,860 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: methane, so 5936 03:55:34,860 --> 03:55:37,840 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: these are things that we're actually 5937 03:55:37,840 --> 03:55:39,420 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: doing already now, Madam Chair. 5938 03:55:40,280 --> 03:55:41,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Sec. Count on 5939 03:55:41,980 --> 03:55:43,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: the Senate to work with you 5940 03:55:43,900 --> 03:55:46,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: on as much of this as we can. 5941 03:55:47,040 --> 03:55:48,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay, sir. The next 5942 03:55:48,000 --> 03:55:49,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: two years and beyond, let's 5943 03:55:49,980 --> 03:55:52,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: see kung anong mapagtulungan 5944 03:55:52,160 --> 03:55:53,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: natin gawin. Di lang mapag-usapan. 5945 03:55:54,140 --> 03:55:55,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Gawin talaga. Sige po. 5946 03:55:56,360 --> 03:55:57,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Colleagues, I just have actually 5947 03:55:57,880 --> 03:55:58,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: one more topic. 5948 03:56:00,000 --> 03:56:01,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Reclamation in Manila Bay and other 5949 03:56:01,900 --> 03:56:03,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: areas. So 5950 03:56:03,760 --> 03:56:05,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: may obvious bias hanggang 5951 03:56:05,940 --> 03:56:07,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa ngayon, no? In favor sa 5952 03:56:07,740 --> 03:56:09,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: gray infrastructure para 5953 03:56:09,960 --> 03:56:11,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mag-adapt sa climate change. 5954 03:56:12,200 --> 03:56:14,020 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So kaya napag-uusapan 5955 03:56:14,020 --> 03:56:15,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: natin nung briefing pa lang natin 5956 03:56:15,860 --> 03:56:18,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na mag-lean 5957 03:56:18,260 --> 03:56:20,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: on talaga tayo 5958 03:56:20,100 --> 03:56:22,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dun sa climate-based solutions. 5959 03:56:23,540 --> 03:56:23,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: From 5960 03:56:24,140 --> 03:56:26,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: flood control, climate change adaptation, 5961 03:56:26,740 --> 03:56:27,840 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mobility problems, 5962 03:56:28,680 --> 03:56:30,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: madalas gamitin binang excuses 5963 03:56:30,360 --> 03:56:32,600 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para magsagawa ng infrastructure 5964 03:56:32,600 --> 03:56:34,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na nagre-resulta 5965 03:56:34,460 --> 03:56:36,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa unauthorized at iligal 5966 03:56:36,460 --> 03:56:38,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na reclamation ng mga bodies of water. 5967 03:56:39,340 --> 03:56:40,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So yung reclamation 5968 03:56:40,240 --> 03:56:42,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at infrastructure development sa 5969 03:56:42,300 --> 03:56:44,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Laguna Lake, sa Manila Bay, 5970 03:56:45,640 --> 03:56:46,820 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sinisisi yun 5971 03:56:46,820 --> 03:56:48,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para sa 5972 03:56:48,700 --> 03:56:50,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pagbaha sa mga surrounding areas. 5973 03:56:51,480 --> 03:56:52,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung collapse ng mga 5974 03:56:52,460 --> 03:56:54,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: coastal areas sa Sambale, 5975 03:56:54,140 --> 03:56:56,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ina-attribute din po 5976 03:56:56,700 --> 03:56:58,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at least in part sa dredging 5977 03:56:58,980 --> 03:57:00,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: saka mining para sa fill 5978 03:57:00,640 --> 03:57:02,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: materials para sa iba't-ibang 5979 03:57:02,720 --> 03:57:04,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: reclamation projects sa Manila Bay. 5980 03:57:05,480 --> 03:57:06,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bilang tugon, 5981 03:57:07,660 --> 03:57:08,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: salamat nga ang department 5982 03:57:08,920 --> 03:57:10,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nag-commission ng cumulative impact 5983 03:57:10,580 --> 03:57:12,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: assessment sa mga proyektong 5984 03:57:12,560 --> 03:57:14,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yan sa Manila Bay. So 5985 03:57:14,640 --> 03:57:16,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: pwede kayang mag-submit 5986 03:57:16,760 --> 03:57:18,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng short presentation 5987 03:57:18,860 --> 03:57:20,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng department ng volume 2 5988 03:57:20,740 --> 03:57:22,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: dun sa CIA. 5989 03:57:24,140 --> 03:57:25,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Gaya ng itinaya ng mga 5990 03:57:25,900 --> 03:57:28,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: naunang mga kalihim 5991 03:57:28,400 --> 03:57:29,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Senado. 5992 03:57:29,140 --> 03:57:31,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Is that available 5993 03:57:31,300 --> 03:57:32,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: today, Secretary? 5994 03:57:33,360 --> 03:57:34,900 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Yusef Natus, please. 5995 03:57:36,240 --> 03:57:36,980 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Yusef. 5996 03:57:37,020 --> 03:57:39,040 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Good afternoon again, Madam Chair. 5997 03:57:39,520 --> 03:57:41,120 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Yes, Madam Chair, we will submit. 5998 03:57:41,360 --> 03:57:43,140 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: It is available. Although phase 2 5999 03:57:43,140 --> 03:57:45,060 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: of the cumulative 6000 03:57:45,060 --> 03:57:46,880 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: impact assessment is not yet 6001 03:57:46,880 --> 03:57:49,260 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: completed in the sense that 6002 03:57:49,260 --> 03:57:51,020 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: while they have submitted the 6003 03:57:51,020 --> 03:57:53,220 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: final report, the actual 6004 03:57:53,220 --> 03:57:53,840 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: data, 6005 03:57:54,140 --> 03:57:55,680 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: transfer as well as 6006 03:57:55,680 --> 03:57:57,580 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: the modeling platform 6007 03:57:57,580 --> 03:57:59,440 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: still has to be 6008 03:57:59,440 --> 03:58:01,380 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: transferred to the DNR plus 6009 03:58:01,380 --> 03:58:03,700 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: with some training. Thank you. 6010 03:58:04,600 --> 03:58:05,960 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: But we can already, 6011 03:58:06,520 --> 03:58:07,920 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Madam Chair, we can already provide 6012 03:58:07,920 --> 03:58:09,780 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: the committee. Salamat. 6013 03:58:10,380 --> 03:58:11,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Are there any 6014 03:58:11,660 --> 03:58:14,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: major findings and recommendations 6015 03:58:14,000 --> 03:58:15,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: for the final report? Wala pa? 6016 03:58:16,380 --> 03:58:17,020 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Basically, 6017 03:58:17,500 --> 03:58:19,640 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Madam Chair, it basically 6018 03:58:19,640 --> 03:58:21,760 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: just validated the findings of phase 6019 03:58:21,760 --> 03:58:22,800 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: 1. Thank you. 6020 03:58:24,140 --> 03:58:26,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kailan yung matatapos 6021 03:58:26,240 --> 03:58:27,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung final report? Kailan ako, 6022 03:58:28,100 --> 03:58:30,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kailan ang subcommittee makakahingi 6023 03:58:30,520 --> 03:58:31,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng kopya? 6024 03:58:34,200 --> 03:58:36,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasi previous secretaries have committed this. 6025 03:58:36,400 --> 03:58:37,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So will you be the department 6026 03:58:37,740 --> 03:58:40,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: administration to finally deliver 6027 03:58:40,220 --> 03:58:42,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: it to the Senate para we can be more 6028 03:58:42,100 --> 03:58:44,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: useful partners to you? 6029 03:58:44,480 --> 03:58:47,400 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: Ma'am, we can immediately provide it. 6030 03:58:47,400 --> 03:58:49,700 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Immediately as in within the week? 6031 03:58:49,700 --> 03:58:50,220 DENR Undersecretary for Special Concerns and Legislative Affairs Ignatius A. Rodriguez: As in tomorrow. 6032 03:58:50,840 --> 03:58:52,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Tomorrow. Even better. 6033 03:58:52,660 --> 03:58:54,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po. Kasi 6034 03:58:54,140 --> 03:58:56,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: As you might know, ni-investiga din po 6035 03:58:56,160 --> 03:58:57,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: namin yung usapin ng 6036 03:58:57,960 --> 03:59:00,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: reclamation as part of the whole Blue Economy 6037 03:59:00,140 --> 03:59:02,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bill sa Committee on Economic 6038 03:59:02,000 --> 03:59:03,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Affairs. So we want to align with 6039 03:59:03,860 --> 03:59:06,120 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung mga importanteng assessments 6040 03:59:06,120 --> 03:59:07,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: tulad nitong ginawaan ninyo. 6041 03:59:08,180 --> 03:59:08,740 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat. 6042 03:59:11,160 --> 03:59:12,100 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At this 6043 03:59:12,100 --> 03:59:14,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: point, since we're able to 6044 03:59:14,360 --> 03:59:15,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: finish a bit earlier 6045 03:59:15,960 --> 03:59:17,000 Senator Risa Hontiveros: than I expected, 6046 03:59:18,280 --> 03:59:20,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: muli salamat 6047 03:59:20,080 --> 03:59:22,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa presensya ng ating mga CSO partners. 6048 03:59:22,320 --> 03:59:23,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: The Chair would like to, 6049 03:59:24,140 --> 03:59:26,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I'll give you some 6050 03:59:26,240 --> 03:59:28,300 Senator Risa Hontiveros: minutes kung meron kayong gustong ibahagi 6051 03:59:28,300 --> 03:59:30,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at this point in time, bagamat aasahan 6052 03:59:30,500 --> 03:59:32,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: ng subcommittee, yung mga 6053 03:59:32,340 --> 03:59:34,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: follow-up questions nyo, mga 6054 03:59:34,260 --> 03:59:36,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: mga, even perhaps 6055 03:59:36,460 --> 03:59:37,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: proposed amendments nyo, 6056 03:59:38,260 --> 03:59:39,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: leading up to the 6057 03:59:39,460 --> 03:59:41,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: plenary. 6058 03:59:42,320 --> 03:59:44,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasi ina-appreciate po namin 6059 03:59:44,460 --> 03:59:46,500 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung presensya nyo dito bilang bahagi 6060 03:59:46,500 --> 03:59:48,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: nung sinimula naming budget 6061 03:59:48,240 --> 03:59:50,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: reforms nung nakaraang taon 6062 03:59:50,180 --> 03:59:51,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: na gusto naming palawakin, 6063 03:59:52,020 --> 03:59:53,680 Senator Risa Hontiveros: papalalimin pa at ipagpatuloy. 6064 03:59:54,140 --> 03:59:56,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I think, Mr. Aparente, 6065 03:59:56,340 --> 03:59:57,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: kayo po, yes please, for 6066 03:59:57,800 --> 03:59:59,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Bulacan Alliance for Reform. 6067 04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:00,640 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Yes, sir. 6068 04:00:01,340 --> 04:00:07,580 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Magandang hapon po. Maraming salamat, Senadora Reza. 6069 04:00:09,240 --> 04:00:15,960 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Nagbigay po kami ng sulat sa inyo noon at pinaabot po namin sa inyong opisina. 6070 04:00:17,440 --> 04:00:24,580 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Ang laman naman po ng sulat namin ay, ang pinaka-substance po ng aming sulat, 6071 04:00:24,580 --> 04:00:37,000 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: eh, for the past three years na po, 2023, or 24, 23, 2024, 25, 26, 6072 04:00:38,160 --> 04:00:43,920 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: eh talaga pong ang Bulacan ay grabe ang efekto ng baha. 6073 04:00:44,340 --> 04:00:50,860 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Ako po, nanirahan sa Bulacan-Bulacan. I have been there for 40 years. 6074 04:00:52,000 --> 04:00:54,560 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: So, alam ko po ang sitwasyon. 6075 04:00:54,580 --> 04:01:04,940 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: So, diretso na po ko, yung binabanggit po ng SMC na walang kinalaman ang reclamation 6076 04:01:04,940 --> 04:01:12,860 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: ng 3,000, almost 3,000, na reclamation, 3,000 hectares na nireclaim nila para sa airport, 6077 04:01:13,860 --> 04:01:17,740 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: kami po, sa aming karanasan, ay hindi po kami naniniwala. 6078 04:01:19,940 --> 04:01:24,540 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Dahil po, nakikita namin na patuloy do. 6079 04:01:24,580 --> 04:01:25,700 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Tuloy-tuloy po. 6080 04:01:26,440 --> 04:01:37,840 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: By the way po, yung coastal areas po, that's yung kilometers po niyan, 43, 43 kilometers point 3. 6081 04:01:38,980 --> 04:01:44,040 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: And roughly, siguro mga 600 to 700 ang population po, residents. 6082 04:01:45,060 --> 04:01:54,240 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Mula po sa Malolos, Hagunoy, Paumbong, Bulacan-Bulacan, Ubando, kasama na po natin yung Kalumpi. 6083 04:01:54,580 --> 04:01:57,860 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Na talagang, ito po talaga yung naapektuhan. 6084 04:01:58,580 --> 04:02:05,580 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: So, ang tingin po namin, yung binabanggit pong paulit-ulit na pinagmamalaki ng SMC, 6085 04:02:06,660 --> 04:02:10,440 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: na hindi sila sanhi, ay hindi po kami naniniwala. 6086 04:02:11,580 --> 04:02:15,340 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Nais namin malaman ng katotohanan sa pamamagitan po ng agham. 6087 04:02:16,160 --> 04:02:23,360 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Ngunit, nagsuriin ng aming mga volunteer, scientist at mga dokumentong isa na publiko ng SMC, 6088 04:02:24,580 --> 04:02:30,020 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Sa kanilang dayuhang konsultan, natuklasan naming itinago ang pinakamahalagang datos. 6089 04:02:31,020 --> 04:02:43,340 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Number one po, ang ipinakita lamang sa publiko at sa gobyerno ay mga istatik o nakalarawang mapa at mga summarized na ulat na pumapabor sa kumpanya. 6090 04:02:43,340 --> 04:02:47,340 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Mga drawing na nagpapakitang walang magiging dagdag na baha. 6091 04:02:47,340 --> 04:03:03,700 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Ipinagkait at hindi sinapubliko ang mismong computer-run files, ang mga mathematical model, ang sukat ng lalim at lapad na mga ilog, river cross sections at mga bataya ng kanilang pagsusuri. 6092 04:03:04,180 --> 04:03:12,760 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Kung walang totoong computer files, hindi masusuri ng mga independenteng siyentipiko mula sa University of the Philippines? 6093 04:03:13,200 --> 04:03:16,180 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Kung totoo ba ang sinasabi ng SMC? 6094 04:03:16,180 --> 04:03:28,520 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: O kung sadyang lulunuri ng kanilang dambuhalang plataporma ang aming mga kabahayan kapag nagsabay ang malakas na bagyo, high tide at pagbabaw ng mga hinukay nilang ilog? 6095 04:03:29,380 --> 04:03:40,480 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Naging malaking pabigat din po, particular, with due respect po sa inyo, sa DNR, na sa halip na protektahan ang kalikasan at mamamayan, 6096 04:03:41,560 --> 04:03:45,320 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: sorry to tell you, naging tagapagtatak na lamang. 6097 04:03:45,320 --> 04:03:55,140 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: ng Environmental Compliance Certificate ng SMC, nang walang masusing pagsusuri at walang bukas na konsultasyon sa mga mamamayan. 6098 04:03:56,220 --> 04:04:14,640 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Hindi pinagana ng Environmental Management Bureau ang kapangyarihan nito sa ilalim ng PD 1586 at DAO 2003-30 upang obligahin ng kumpanya na ilabas ang buong datos at magsagawa ng agarang 6099 04:04:14,640 --> 04:04:16,740 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: ECC Compliance Audit. 6100 04:04:17,560 --> 04:04:39,520 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Hindi rin ginampana ng River Vision Control Office ng DNR ang mandato nito sa ilalim ng Executive Order No. 816 bilang tagapamahala ng pambansang database na mga ilog upang tiyaking ang pagbabago sa mga ilog ng bulakan ay hindi lumalabag sa pangkalatang plano sa flood control. 6101 04:04:39,520 --> 04:04:43,520 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Batay po dito, ang amin pong iminumungkahi. 6102 04:04:44,640 --> 04:04:57,360 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: With due respect po sa chairperson, pag-aralan pong mabuti, linawin ang kondisyon at pananagutan sa pagpapabaya sa bulakan. 6103 04:04:58,480 --> 04:05:02,560 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: As I said po, nagsasabi po ako ng karanasan namin. 6104 04:05:05,140 --> 04:05:14,160 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Pilitin ng DNR na mag-issue ng subpina o pormal na kautusan sa SMC upang isapubliko at ibigay sa mga unibersidad at komunidad. 6105 04:05:14,640 --> 04:05:20,760 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Ang kumpletong raw modeling files at datos ng DHI at Mott MacDonald. 6106 04:05:20,760 --> 04:05:43,260 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: At panghuli po, papanagutin ang SMC sa pinsanang idinulot sa kapuhayan ng mga mangisda at residente at magpatupad ng independenting audit sa pamumunuan ng mga eksperto at mga kinatawan ng mamamayan. 6107 04:05:43,260 --> 04:05:44,560 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: So kami po, 6108 04:05:44,640 --> 04:05:51,080 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: ayaw na po natin sanang narating na naman po yung mga unos, tag-ulan. 6109 04:05:53,520 --> 04:05:55,660 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Ganyan na lang po ang nangyayari sa amin. 6110 04:05:56,300 --> 04:05:59,140 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Hindi po kami naniniwala na kasi high tide. 6111 04:06:00,920 --> 04:06:04,860 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: And hindi naman po makatutuhan ng dahilan lamang po yun. 6112 04:06:05,960 --> 04:06:08,300 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: So kaya naman po natin gawa ng paraan. 6113 04:06:08,300 --> 04:06:14,380 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Kaya po, with due respect sa inyo po at mahal naming senadora, 6114 04:06:14,640 --> 04:06:21,640 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: gusto po naming marinig din po sa DNR ang kanilang mga kasagutan sa amin pong liham na ito. 6115 04:06:24,220 --> 04:06:26,460 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po, Mr. Aparente. 6116 04:06:26,560 --> 04:06:35,340 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At narinig po ng subcommittee yung, hindi lang yung mga salita, pero yung damdamin at kaisipan din sa inyong liham. 6117 04:06:35,500 --> 04:06:40,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po sa pagdalo rito at pagpapahayag niyan. 6118 04:06:40,520 --> 04:06:42,900 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Would you like to respond, Secretary? 6119 04:06:43,220 --> 04:06:44,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Or at least, could you? 6120 04:06:44,640 --> 04:06:47,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Respond to them in writing before the plenary debate. 6121 04:06:47,860 --> 04:06:48,660 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Thank you very much. 6122 04:06:48,880 --> 04:06:53,560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: We will respond comprehensively in writing, Mr. Aparente. 6123 04:06:53,560 --> 04:07:05,280 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Pero offhand, tutulong po kami na kausapin yung proponent regarding yung request for the, yung data po na sinasabi ninyo. 6124 04:07:06,940 --> 04:07:14,560 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Kakusapin po namin kung pwedeng ipabahagi kung anong available na datos na yung hinihingi po ninyo. 6125 04:07:14,640 --> 04:07:15,900 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Para makita ninyong clearly. 6126 04:07:16,100 --> 04:07:19,900 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: I mean, offhand, yun ang, I can assure you, tutulong po kami dyan, Madam Chair. 6127 04:07:20,620 --> 04:07:28,460 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: As far as the ECC issue ones is concerned naman, maybe Director Mike Matias can expound on this. 6128 04:07:28,560 --> 04:07:38,960 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: But offhand, as far as I know, there was a public consultation that was conducted for this. 6129 04:07:38,960 --> 04:07:43,960 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Pero maybe the extent, I really don't know. 6130 04:07:44,640 --> 04:07:46,640 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: So, Attorney Mike, meron ba tayong... 6131 04:07:47,320 --> 04:07:48,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Sec. Puna. 6132 04:07:49,380 --> 04:07:56,180 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung dun sa commitment nyo na tutulong kayong kausapin yung proponent para maibahagi yung datos. 6133 04:07:56,360 --> 04:08:03,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: In particular, binanggit ni Mr. Aparente yung computer-run files, yung mathematical models, at dalawa pang items. 6134 04:08:04,440 --> 04:08:07,940 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes, Director Matias, meron ba kayong brief na response? 6135 04:08:08,180 --> 04:08:13,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And or could you also respond to Bulacan Alliance for Reform in Writing? 6136 04:08:14,020 --> 04:08:14,620 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you. 6137 04:08:14,640 --> 04:08:16,040 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Thank you, Madam Senator and Sir. 6138 04:08:17,740 --> 04:08:24,720 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Based on the EIA process, it went through the scoping and the public participation, which is a requirement. 6139 04:08:25,180 --> 04:08:32,360 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: And given yung request, we'll coordinate with the release of the information. 6140 04:08:32,360 --> 04:08:43,280 EMB Director Michael Drake P. Matias: Kasi, Madam Senator, I think naka-anchor yung way forward dun sa information being asked by Sir Aparente. 6141 04:08:44,640 --> 04:08:46,240 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat, Director Matias. 6142 04:08:46,400 --> 04:09:02,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hopefully, maging opening po yan, kabukasan po yan para makarating sa isang maayos na sagot dun sa tanong nila, Mr. Aparente, na paanong magagawang paraan dito sa sitwasyong ito. 6143 04:09:03,580 --> 04:09:05,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Salamat po muli, Mr. Aparente. 6144 04:09:06,180 --> 04:09:14,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mag-keep in touch po tayo sa subcommittee, papunta po sa budget plenaries para sa iba nyo pang follow-up questions. 6145 04:09:14,640 --> 04:09:22,140 Senator Risa Hontiveros: At maaring mga proposed amendments for the consideration ng subcommittee in partnership sa department. 6146 04:09:22,840 --> 04:09:23,760 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Maraming salamat. 6147 04:09:23,940 --> 04:09:24,840 Bulacan Alliance for Reform Representative Avelino P. Aparente: Salamat din po. 6148 04:09:25,340 --> 04:09:30,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Any other brief highlights na gusto nyong ibahagi from Civil Society? 6149 04:09:31,580 --> 04:09:34,380 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Mr. A.J. Montesa sa People's Budget Coalition. 6150 04:09:34,940 --> 04:09:36,560 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Yes. Maraming salamat po. 6151 04:09:36,660 --> 04:09:41,980 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Good afternoon, Madam Chair, Senator Hontiveros, DNR officials, and to our colleagues from Civil Society. 6152 04:09:42,220 --> 04:09:44,580 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: On behalf of the People's Budget Coalition, 6153 04:09:44,640 --> 04:09:50,720 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Ken Amante and myself, I would like to thank you, Sen. Teresa, for inviting us as resource persons. 6154 04:09:51,200 --> 04:09:53,820 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: I think we do need to acknowledge that this is a huge step. 6155 04:09:54,300 --> 04:10:00,160 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: This is the first time that civil society is being invited to a department budget hearing in at least 10 years. 6156 04:10:00,540 --> 04:10:11,500 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So we really do acknowledge how important this proceeding is for us and for restoring trust in the entire budget process after the damage that was done in the previous scandals. 6157 04:10:11,940 --> 04:10:14,620 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: For the DNR budget, we believe that there is no shortage. 6158 04:10:14,620 --> 04:10:16,200 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: There is no such thing as a natural disaster. 6159 04:10:16,700 --> 04:10:17,980 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: All disasters are man-made. 6160 04:10:18,840 --> 04:10:24,200 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Failures in planning, coordination, enforcement, and watershed protection make things worse. 6161 04:10:24,720 --> 04:10:32,340 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: And the flood control scandal of the last years showed billions of pesos spent on infrastructure while communities remain dangerously vulnerable. 6162 04:10:33,220 --> 04:10:34,480 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So we look to the DNR. 6163 04:10:34,480 --> 04:10:41,960 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: We expect an agency that will protect our watersheds, enforce environmental laws, scrutinize development projects, 6164 04:10:42,140 --> 04:10:44,480 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: and ensure that government investments do not aggravate 6165 04:10:44,620 --> 04:10:59,100 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: the very disasters that they are supposed to prevent. Our assessment is that the current version of the DNR budget will not adequately prepare us for typhoons, flooding, urban heat, and the extreme weather conditions worsened by the strong El Nino. 6166 04:10:59,800 --> 04:11:05,820 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: The budget of the DNR Office of the Secretary has been stuck at 16 to 20 billion pesos since 2018. 6167 04:11:05,820 --> 04:11:12,920 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: And accounting for inflation over the last 10 years, and even the recent depreciation of the peso and oil price hikes, 6168 04:11:13,240 --> 04:11:14,600 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: this means that the real budget... 6169 04:11:14,620 --> 04:11:18,300 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: of the department has fallen by about 30% in real terms. 6170 04:11:18,980 --> 04:11:24,180 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Capital outlays fell from 37% in 2018 to just 12% for this coming year. 6171 04:11:24,680 --> 04:11:28,800 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: And 1.8 billion pesos was left unobligated in 2025. 6172 04:11:29,620 --> 04:11:33,580 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: In the 2027 proposal, the Environmental Management Bureau, or EMB, 6173 04:11:33,880 --> 04:11:36,660 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: which issues and monitors environmental compliance certificates, 6174 04:11:37,140 --> 04:11:41,640 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: is the only attached bureau that was cut or reduced by 360 million pesos. 6175 04:11:41,640 --> 04:11:43,640 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So we want a stronger DNR that... 6176 04:11:44,620 --> 04:11:47,700 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: enforces our environmental laws to prevent these disasters. 6177 04:11:48,400 --> 04:11:52,280 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: But a bigger budget will not necessarily make communities safer 6178 04:11:52,280 --> 04:11:57,560 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: if the DNR keeps approving projects without studying these projects comprehensively. 6179 04:11:58,240 --> 04:12:01,300 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: To be frank, our civil society movements are very concerned 6180 04:12:01,300 --> 04:12:07,880 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: that DNR too often acts as a rubber stamp in its environmental impact assessment procedures. 6181 04:12:08,500 --> 04:12:12,680 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Feedback on the ground has been that the department proposes certifications and approvals 6182 04:12:12,680 --> 04:12:14,600 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: without sufficiently accounting for the impact of the environmental impact. 6183 04:12:14,620 --> 04:12:22,800 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So we need an agency that anticipates harm and not just one that merely responds 6184 04:12:22,800 --> 04:12:24,640 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: after the damage has already been done. 6185 04:12:25,520 --> 04:12:28,400 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So we illustrate three systemic issues using three cases. 6186 04:12:29,160 --> 04:12:30,620 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: First, the environmental... 6187 04:12:30,620 --> 04:12:32,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Briefly na lang, yung tatlo. 6188 04:12:33,080 --> 04:12:36,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Either enumerate the three or detail one, please. 6189 04:12:37,080 --> 04:12:37,420 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Thank you. 6190 04:12:37,760 --> 04:12:42,300 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: The first one is the environmental clearance of expressway projects, 6191 04:12:42,300 --> 04:12:43,600 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: especially the SALEX, 6192 04:12:43,600 --> 04:12:49,300 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: which is San Miguel's 40.65-kilometer Southern Access Link Expressway 6193 04:12:49,300 --> 04:12:55,220 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: na sasagasa sa mga puno, kalikasan, paaralan, ospital, negosyo at heritage 6194 04:12:55,220 --> 04:13:00,800 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: sa Quirina Rojas Boulevard, Padre Faura, Buendia, C3R10, and Shoreline Expressway. 6195 04:13:01,740 --> 04:13:06,560 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: The different civil society movements like Stop SALEX and Ilog Pasiglahin movements 6196 04:13:06,560 --> 04:13:09,940 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: have pointed out the bad impacts of elevated expressways 6197 04:13:09,940 --> 04:13:13,500 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: on health, traffic, heritage, environment, and economy. 6198 04:13:13,600 --> 04:13:17,620 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So we ask, why is the DENR approving elevated expressways 6199 04:13:17,620 --> 04:13:21,640 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: even when the most progressive cities in the world are tearing them down? 6200 04:13:22,160 --> 04:13:26,260 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: So ang tanong po namin, why did the construction of a 40-kilometer expressway 6201 04:13:26,260 --> 04:13:29,100 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: proceed without a full environmental impact assessment? 6202 04:13:29,700 --> 04:13:34,380 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: Why did it proceed with only three initial environmental examination checklists 6203 04:13:34,380 --> 04:13:36,660 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: covering a total of only 13 kilometers? 6204 04:13:37,280 --> 04:13:42,180 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Adolfo Jose Montesa: I think for the other two issues, I think my colleague Ken will just briefly touch on them po. 6205 04:13:42,180 --> 04:13:43,520 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you. 6206 04:13:43,600 --> 04:13:47,880 Senator Risa Hontiveros: AJ, yes, Ken Abante from People's Budget Coalition. Briefly, please. 6207 04:13:47,960 --> 04:13:49,120 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Maraming salamat po, Sen. Teresa. 6208 04:13:49,300 --> 04:13:53,380 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Yung pangalawang karanasan po na gusto namin i-share ay sa tingin po namin napakahalaga 6209 04:13:53,380 --> 04:13:55,880 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: para po sa preparation natin sa El Ni?o at pagbaha. 6210 04:13:56,300 --> 04:13:59,420 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ito po yung karanasan sa sistema ng watershed restoration. 6211 04:14:00,100 --> 04:14:05,140 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Yung Upper Marikina Basin Protected Landscape covering 26,000 hectares in Rizal 6212 04:14:05,140 --> 04:14:09,580 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: ay protection po natin sa matinding pagbaha at tagtuyot sa buong Kamainilaan. 6213 04:14:09,580 --> 04:14:13,580 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Pero po, despite its protected status, the watershed remains severely 6214 04:14:13,600 --> 04:14:14,500 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: degraded. 6215 04:14:14,840 --> 04:14:22,840 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Yung forest cover po nito ay 25% na lamang against DENR's restoration target of 43% by 2028, 6216 04:14:23,080 --> 04:14:25,060 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: which we believe to still be too low. 6217 04:14:25,680 --> 04:14:30,480 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Dapat 72% to 90% ayon sa isang 2018 World Bank DENR study. 6218 04:14:30,980 --> 04:14:36,380 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: The higher the forest cover, the greater the water and disaster resilience benefits versus river runoffs. 6219 04:14:36,380 --> 04:14:43,380 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang status po ng restoration, 1,500 of these 26,000 hectares are in danger of incursion 6220 04:14:43,600 --> 04:14:48,320 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: 2 major projects need urgent review and finalization by the DENR. 6221 04:14:48,760 --> 04:14:52,320 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang una, si Rapid City at sister company nitong Quarry Rock 6222 04:14:52,320 --> 04:14:56,620 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: ay may quarrying projects na kinansinalanan ng DENR noong 2022. 6223 04:14:56,760 --> 04:14:58,040 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Maraming salamat po DENR. 6224 04:14:58,440 --> 04:15:00,080 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Pero hindi pa rin po finalized ang desisyon 6225 04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:06,320 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: sa kanilang motion for consideration, which potentially impacts 985 hectares. 6226 04:15:06,680 --> 04:15:10,720 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ang pangalawang proyekto po ay ang VINA Energy na may application naman 6227 04:15:10,720 --> 04:15:16,300 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: para sa isang 553 hectares na special use agreement in protected areas or SAPA 6228 04:15:16,300 --> 04:15:18,260 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: at pending pa rin po ito sa DNR. 6229 04:15:18,700 --> 04:15:22,600 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: At may formal opposition na po dito ang Upper Marikina Watershed. 6230 04:15:23,220 --> 04:15:26,780 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So we hope, isa lang pong kaso ang Upper Marikina Watershed. 6231 04:15:26,780 --> 04:15:30,800 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We think this has to be one of the core issues that are discussed by the committee 6232 04:15:30,800 --> 04:15:36,160 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: and also in the plenary because we want prevention, not just damage control. 6233 04:15:36,820 --> 04:15:41,140 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And we also ask DNR to account for all the other watersheds in the country 6234 04:15:41,140 --> 04:15:45,340 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: because we are hearing from different civil society groups that this is also the case. 6235 04:15:45,840 --> 04:15:50,940 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And finally po, we think that DNR has a responsibility to also stop the flood control scandal. 6236 04:15:50,940 --> 04:15:56,520 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ayon po sa isang Action Klima Report, only 0.1% of the national budget 6237 04:15:56,520 --> 04:15:59,340 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: is spent on nature-based solutions. 6238 04:15:59,560 --> 04:16:04,560 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Karamihan po nang natag sa climate budget ay puro mga DPWH gray infrastructure. 6239 04:16:05,100 --> 04:16:12,680 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So we ask the DENR to please help us review the 7,054 projects worth 190 billion pesos 6240 04:16:12,680 --> 04:16:17,620 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: that we tagged were inserted by the House of Representatives without proper documentation. 6241 04:16:18,760 --> 04:16:21,000 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We ask for the Senate's help on this. 6242 04:16:21,220 --> 04:16:23,240 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We have the list. We have the maps. 6243 04:16:23,840 --> 04:16:26,500 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We are seeing many projects in many different areas. 6244 04:16:27,120 --> 04:16:30,320 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: That were inserted by the House without proper documentation. 6245 04:16:30,900 --> 04:16:35,500 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Please DNR, please help us make sure that these projects are proper. 6246 04:16:36,400 --> 04:16:42,900 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And just to summarize po, we hope that the committee supports us in the review of these expressway projects 6247 04:16:42,900 --> 04:16:46,740 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: and the incursions in the Upper Marikina Watershed and other watersheds 6248 04:16:46,740 --> 04:16:52,320 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: to publish the status and work with us on verifying all of these maps 6249 04:16:52,460 --> 04:16:56,340 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: and making sure that the scientific community is really part of the process, 6250 04:16:56,520 --> 04:16:58,160 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: of approving the projects. 6251 04:16:58,360 --> 04:16:59,120 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: We are with you. 6252 04:16:59,760 --> 04:17:01,900 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Hindi na po natutulog ang aming mga angry nerds. 6253 04:17:01,900 --> 04:17:07,200 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: So pag-check po ng 18,000 projects that were passed by the House. 6254 04:17:07,700 --> 04:17:10,920 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: And we are committed, Senator Riza and Secretary Cuna, 6255 04:17:11,180 --> 04:17:14,520 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: to work with you on guarding our public money. 6256 04:17:16,700 --> 04:17:17,740 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Thank you. 6257 04:17:18,580 --> 04:17:21,920 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ken Abante also from the People's Budget Coalition. 6258 04:17:22,840 --> 04:17:24,780 Senator Risa Hontiveros: The subcommittee hears you too. 6259 04:17:25,920 --> 04:17:26,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And... 6260 04:17:26,520 --> 04:17:34,080 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Very well noted yung mga initial na follow-up questions or points that you have raised. 6261 04:17:34,600 --> 04:17:37,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And gaya ng sinabi ko rin kay Mr. Aparente, 6262 04:17:37,600 --> 04:17:41,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: asahan po namin ang subcommittee in partnership sa DNR 6263 04:17:41,200 --> 04:17:46,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: yung patuloy niyong engage sa amin papunta sa plenary. 6264 04:17:46,920 --> 04:17:52,860 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Both for additional questions tulad ng dinagdag niyo ngayong hapon 6265 04:17:52,860 --> 04:17:56,400 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at saka possible proposed amendments. 6266 04:17:56,400 --> 04:18:00,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I think very exciting yung possibilities dito. 6267 04:18:00,880 --> 04:18:02,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So let's do our best. 6268 04:18:03,640 --> 04:18:14,640 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So I would like to thank, marami salamat po ang DNR at ang attached agency sa pagpresenta nyo ng budget para sa 2027. 6269 04:18:15,680 --> 04:18:25,360 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Important issues ang nag-surface kasama na yung kakulangan ng paghahanda natin sa dumating na at tumitindi pang Super El Nino. 6270 04:18:25,360 --> 04:18:25,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So... 6271 04:18:25,560 --> 04:18:26,280 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So... 6272 04:18:26,280 --> 04:18:31,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Asahan po ninyo na makikipagrabaho ang subcommittee sa department 6273 04:18:31,560 --> 04:18:39,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: at saka sa finance committee chair para i-transform yung DNR budget sa isang El Nino ready budget 6274 04:18:39,720 --> 04:18:44,560 Senator Risa Hontiveros: para ma-mitigate yung negatibong epekto sa ating kalikasan at sa ating mga kababayan. 6275 04:18:45,400 --> 04:18:45,660 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Senator? 6276 04:18:46,160 --> 04:18:46,540 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yes. 6277 04:18:46,700 --> 04:18:48,560 People's Budget Coalition Co-convenor Kenneth Isaiah Ibasco Abante: Ay ma'am, sorry. There was another... 6278 04:18:49,400 --> 04:18:49,660 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Hala! 6279 04:18:51,160 --> 04:18:54,260 Senator Risa Hontiveros: You should have said so earlier. That's what your mic is for. 6280 04:18:54,340 --> 04:18:54,800 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you. 6281 04:18:55,040 --> 04:18:55,720 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you again. 6282 04:18:55,720 --> 04:18:56,160 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Okay. 6283 04:18:56,160 --> 04:19:00,320 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Briefly na lang please, Ms. Eunice of the Mangrove Breakthrough. 6284 04:19:00,960 --> 04:19:02,140 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: Mangrove Breakthrough. 6285 04:19:02,480 --> 04:19:03,320 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. 6286 04:19:03,320 --> 04:19:03,960 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Two minutes please. 6287 04:19:04,100 --> 04:19:04,700 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: Very briefly. 6288 04:19:05,100 --> 04:19:10,220 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So I think our colleagues at the PBC have already talked about the upstream issues on watershed management. 6289 04:19:10,360 --> 04:19:13,580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: I'd like to focus on downstream to coastal communities. 6290 04:19:14,260 --> 04:19:15,320 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So I'm Eunice Tanilon. 6291 04:19:15,500 --> 04:19:19,000 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: Thank you so much to the subcommittee, Secretary Kuna, and our colleagues from DNR. 6292 04:19:19,460 --> 04:19:24,760 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: I'm Eunice Tanilon of the Mangrove Breakthrough, a global partnership of government, scientists, and investors 6293 04:19:24,760 --> 04:19:27,960 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: working to secure the world's mangroves by 2030. 6294 04:19:28,340 --> 04:19:35,200 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: Our partner is the Global Mangrove Alliance Philippines, comprised of key conservation organizations. 6295 04:19:35,980 --> 04:19:39,960 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: We work together with the DNR and the National Blue Carbon Action Partnership. 6296 04:19:39,960 --> 04:19:48,940 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So it's essentially a roadmap for five years on how to restore our key mangrove priority landscapes. 6297 04:19:49,720 --> 04:19:52,960 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So I think what I want to talk about this afternoon is to really just... 6298 04:19:52,960 --> 04:20:01,960 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: how difficult it's been to put together financing and money for the very large-scale coordination that's needed 6299 04:20:01,960 --> 04:20:05,260 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: to support restoration projects. 6300 04:20:05,920 --> 04:20:07,220 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Ms. Eunice, briefly please. 6301 04:20:07,440 --> 04:20:10,200 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Kasi may pagkakataon pa tayo na mag-usap at makipagtrabaho. 6302 04:20:10,820 --> 04:20:12,060 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Please proceed. 6303 04:20:12,240 --> 04:20:13,040 Senator Risa Hontiveros: But please wind up. 6304 04:20:13,180 --> 04:20:19,040 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: I think to jump straight to our recommendations, we really hope that the DNR could fund, 6305 04:20:19,040 --> 04:20:22,160 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: and of course the committee could fund the foundations, 6306 04:20:22,160 --> 04:20:23,660 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: and put a date on protocol. 6307 04:20:23,660 --> 04:20:28,660 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So we would really like a national carbon stock assessment carried out with our universities, 6308 04:20:28,660 --> 04:20:30,660 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: funded through the research lines, 6309 04:20:30,660 --> 04:20:36,660 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: and a commitment that a blue carbon quantification protocol will be issued as a department order 6310 04:20:36,660 --> 04:20:39,160 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: by the end of the first quarter of 2027. 6311 04:20:39,160 --> 04:20:45,160 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: This has been the key item that's been blocking all of our conversations with investors. 6312 04:20:45,160 --> 04:20:51,160 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: We've been in conversations with ADB, AIIB, and also other banks in Singapore. 6313 04:20:51,160 --> 04:20:52,080 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: And a lot of... 6314 04:20:52,080 --> 04:20:56,580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: a lot of our conversations stalled because of the lack of these foundational items. 6315 04:20:56,580 --> 04:21:02,080 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: And secondly, we hope that a special provision in the DNR budget that accounts for blue carbon 6316 04:21:02,080 --> 04:21:08,080 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: separately from forest carbon requires the department to designate within 90 days 6317 04:21:08,080 --> 04:21:12,080 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: the bureau accountable for mangroves inside and outside protected areas 6318 04:21:12,080 --> 04:21:17,580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: and requires an annual public hectare count against the PSA mangrove accounts. 6319 04:21:17,580 --> 04:21:21,580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So we really hope with this that it gives every loan, grant, and private peso 6320 04:21:21,580 --> 04:21:24,580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: a public share to match against. 6321 04:21:24,580 --> 04:21:29,580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: So we're very willing to help the Mangrove Breakthrough and Global Mangrove Alliance on these items. 6322 04:21:29,580 --> 04:21:31,580 Mangrove Breakthrough Southeast Asia Manager Eunice Tanilon: Thank you very much. 6323 04:21:31,580 --> 04:21:36,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Thank you very much too, Mangrove Breakthrough. 6324 04:21:36,580 --> 04:21:42,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Yung blue carbon niyo very interesting kasi dinidinig nga namin yung blue economy bill 6325 04:21:42,580 --> 04:21:44,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa Committee on Economic Affairs. 6326 04:21:44,580 --> 04:21:49,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And special provision, we love special provisions in the budget. 6327 04:21:49,580 --> 04:21:50,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: What is that? 6328 04:21:51,580 --> 04:21:56,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Platform towards making them regular line items in the following year's budget. 6329 04:21:56,580 --> 04:21:59,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, salamat, salamat sa inyo. 6330 04:21:59,580 --> 04:22:04,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: I really share the excitement to, sabi ko nga kay SEC nung briefings namin, 6331 04:22:04,580 --> 04:22:09,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: to raise the profile of the department strategically in the years ahead. 6332 04:22:09,580 --> 04:22:14,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Starting, continuing now, especially dito sa panahon ng Super El Nino. 6333 04:22:14,580 --> 04:22:20,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: And for the department to have more naman than 1% of the budget. 6334 04:22:21,580 --> 04:22:29,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: 0.1, oh my God, okay, 0.1% of the budget and to spend it optimally. 6335 04:22:29,580 --> 04:22:35,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Anyway, so to continue, I was just going to close our hearing for today. 6336 04:22:35,580 --> 04:22:42,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So yun, seryoso yung i-consider din namin yung inputs mula sa CSO partners 6337 04:22:42,580 --> 04:22:45,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: sa transformation ito ng DNR budget. 6338 04:22:45,580 --> 04:22:50,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: So, sa ganyan, gusto kong formal na i-endorse yung budget ng DNR sa plenary. 6339 04:22:51,580 --> 04:22:55,580 Senator Risa Hontiveros: Suspended yung hearing natin. Maraming salamat po mga kasama. 6340 04:22:55,580 --> 04:22:58,580 DENR Acting Secretary Juan Miguel T. Cuna: Thank you very much Madam Chair. Thank you very much.