1 00:06:44,950 --> 00:06:50,650 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. Majority Leader. 2 00:06:50,650 --> 00:06:59,980 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move to take up additional reference of business and request that the Secretary General be directed to read the titles of bills and resolutions on first reading as well as 3 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,240 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: communications and committee reports. I so move. 4 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:18,880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. The Secretary General is directed to read the titles of bills and resolutions on first reading as well as communications and committee reports for referral to the appropriate committee. 5 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:29,980 Secretary-General: Additional Reference of Business. Bills on First Reading. House Bill 11352, providing for fair treatment of certain senior citizen pensioners 6 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:41,970 Secretary-General: by granting annual Christmas cash gift, 13th month pension, and pension increases to pensioners of the SSS and GSIS by Representative Olivares. 7 00:07:41,970 --> 00:07:44,250 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Senior Citizens. 8 00:07:44,250 --> 00:07:53,270 Secretary-General: House Bill 11353, establishing autism centers in early detection programs nationwide by Representative Olivares. 9 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:57,510 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Health and Special Committee on Persons with Disabilities. 10 00:07:57,510 --> 00:07:59,980 Secretary-General: House Bill 11354, 11 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:07,600 Secretary-General: Increasing the recruitment, training, and education quota for women in the PNP by Representative Olivares. 12 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,440 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Public Order and Safety. 13 00:08:10,180 --> 00:08:20,000 Secretary-General: House Bill 11355 mandating the deployment of mobile health clinics to geographically isolated and disadvantaged areas 14 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:29,460 Secretary-General: and other underserved communities strengthening the capacity of the DOH to provide regular mobile health centers by Representative Olivares. 15 00:08:29,460 --> 00:08:30,440 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Health. 16 00:08:31,620 --> 00:08:43,060 Secretary-General: House Bill 11356 mandating the establishment of accessible, safe, clean, gender-responsive, and well-maintained public toilets and sanitation facilities 17 00:08:43,060 --> 00:08:52,200 Secretary-General: in public places, transport terminals, tourist areas, markets, parks, and government centers by Representative Olivares. 18 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Public Works and Highways. 19 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,440 Secretary-General: House Bill 11357 increasing the bed capacity of the Camiguin General Hospital 20 00:08:59,460 --> 00:09:01,620 Secretary-General: in Mambajao, Camiguin, 21 00:09:01,620 --> 00:09:04,940 Secretary-General: by Representative Romualdo. 22 00:09:05,140 --> 00:09:05,980 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Health. 23 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:20,340 Secretary-General: House Bill 11359 declaring July 15 of every year a special non-working holiday in Calabanga, Camarines, Sur in commemoration of its Foundation Day by Representative Legacion. 24 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:21,780 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Local Government. 25 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:28,080 Secretary-General: House Bill 11360 strengthening coastal and marine environment protection through institutionalized 26 00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:33,180 Secretary-General: cleanup activities by Representative Vargas. 27 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,440 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Ecology. 28 00:09:34,940 --> 00:09:44,100 Secretary-General: House Bill 11361 declaring every 10th of February each year as National Safer Internet Day in the Philippines. 29 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,820 Secretary-General: By Representative Vargas. 30 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,680 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Information and Communications Technology. 31 00:09:50,060 --> 00:09:59,040 Secretary-General: House Bill 11362 ensuring the availability, adequacy, accessibility, and safety of food to every Filipino, 32 00:09:59,460 --> 00:10:01,060 Secretary-General: by Representative Vargas. 33 00:10:01,060 --> 00:10:02,400 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Human Rights. 34 00:10:02,820 --> 00:10:14,060 Secretary-General: House Bill 11363 mandating law enforcement officers to use a body worn camera during law enforcement operations by Representative Tieng. 35 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,300 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Public Order and Safety. 36 00:10:17,060 --> 00:10:28,480 Secretary-General: House Bill 11364 increasing the retirement age for uniformed personnel of the PNP from 56 years old to 57 years old by Representative Tieng. 37 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:29,240 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Public Order and Safety. 38 00:10:29,460 --> 00:10:37,020 Secretary-General: House Bill 11365, establishing the Philippine National Forensic DNA Database 39 00:10:37,020 --> 00:10:41,200 Secretary-General: by Representatives Ko Antonio and Ko Elisa. 40 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,960 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Public Order and Safety. 41 00:10:43,820 --> 00:10:52,120 Secretary-General: House Bill 11366, regulating the possession and operation of unmanned systems by Representatives 42 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,440 Secretary-General: Ko Antonio and Ko Elisa. 43 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,460 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Transportation. 44 00:10:56,460 --> 00:10:59,180 Secretary-General: House Bill 11367, 45 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:05,880 Secretary-General: declaring November 26 of every year a special non-working holiday in Dasmariñas, Cavite 46 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:12,240 Secretary-General: in commemoration of its founding anniversary and the annual Paro-Paro Festival by Representative 47 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,500 Secretary-General: Austria Barzaga. 48 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:16,465 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Local Government. 49 00:11:16,465 --> 00:11:19,800 Secretary-General: House Bill 11369, strengthening the 50 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:26,080 Secretary-General: Philippine healthcare system to achieve efficiency and equity and to improve public health emergency 51 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,240 Secretary-General: preparedness by Representatives Tulfo. 52 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,820 Secretary-General: Ralph Wendell and Tulfo Jocelyn. 53 00:11:31,820 --> 00:11:34,218 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Health. 54 00:11:34,218 --> 00:11:38,100 Secretary-General: House Bill 11370, establishing the Philippine 55 00:11:38,100 --> 00:11:44,660 Secretary-General: Cybersecurity Council and enhancing the National Cybersecurity Framework by Representatives Tulfo, 56 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:47,440 Secretary-General: Ralph Wendell and Tulfo Jocelyn. 57 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Information and Communications Technology. 58 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:59,040 Secretary-General: House Bill 11371, mandating the formulation and institutionalization of a comprehensive infrastructure 59 00:11:59,460 --> 00:12:11,080 Secretary-General: development master plan, establishing the Master Plan for Infrastructure in National Development Council by Representatives Tulfo, Ralph Wendell, and Tulfo Jocelyn. 60 00:12:11,220 --> 00:12:12,900 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the Committee on Public Works and Highways. 61 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:29,460 Secretary-General: Communication. Letter dated September 7, 2026 of the Office of the President, acting Executive Secretary, enhancing the Universal Access to Quality Tertiary Education Act which was signed by President 62 00:12:29,460 --> 00:12:31,660 Secretary-General: Ferdinand Romualdo Marcos Jr. 63 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:33,860 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: To the archives. 64 00:12:34,780 --> 00:12:35,440 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 65 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,300 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move to suspend the session for a few minutes. 66 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,100 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended. 67 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:54,630 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. Majority Leader. 68 00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:59,980 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, under the calendar of unfinished business, I move to 69 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:11,420 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: resume consideration of House Bill No. 10858 as contained in Committee Report No. 638. And for this purpose, direct the Secretary General to read the title of the said measure. 70 00:22:11,420 --> 00:22:21,200 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. The Secretary General is hereby directed to read the title of House Bill No. 10858. 71 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:29,980 Secretary-General: House Bill No. 10858, an act appropriating funds for the operation of the Government of the Republic of the Philippines from January 1 72 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,500 Secretary-General: to December 31, 2027. 73 00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:39,230 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 74 00:22:39,230 --> 00:22:56,640 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, the parliamentary status of House Bill No. 10858 is that it is in the period of sponsorship and debate. I now move to consider the proposed budget of the Metro Manila Development Authority. 75 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,980 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. 76 00:23:00,950 --> 00:23:01,650 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 77 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam 78 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Speaker, 79 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: may we acknowledge the 80 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: heads and officials of 81 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: the Metro Manila 82 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,540 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Development Authority. 83 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Chairman Atty. 84 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Romando S. 85 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,300 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Artes, Assistant 86 00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:14,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Secretary David 87 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Angelo R. 88 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Vargas, Assistant 89 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Secretary 90 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Maria Carolina 91 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,640 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: M. Salgado. 92 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: We 93 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: welcome the representatives 94 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of 95 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Metro 96 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Manila 97 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Development Authority. 98 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Welcome to 99 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: the House of Representatives. 100 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority 101 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Leader. 102 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:46,420 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, 103 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:52,020 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Representative Monique Yasmine Maria Q. Lagdameo, 1st District of Makati, 104 00:23:52,540 --> 00:23:57,360 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: and Vice Chair Alexandria Queenie P. Gonzalez, Lone District of Mandaluyong City. 105 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:00,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. 106 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:07,360 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, Monique Lagdameo, 107 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:15,680 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: and Vice Chairperson Queenie Gonzalez are now recognized to begin the sponsorship of House Bill No. 10858. 108 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,620 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Good morning, Madam Speaker and distinguished members of this August Chamber. 109 00:24:21,620 --> 00:24:26,620 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: We are honored to sponsor today the proposed budget of the Metropolitan Manila 110 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:31,820 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Development Authority, or the MMDA, for the fiscal year 2027. 111 00:24:32,380 --> 00:24:37,220 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: The State recognizes Metro Manila as a special development and administrative region. 112 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,820 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: By reason of the complex and interrelated challenges of rapid urbanization in Metro Manila, 113 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:49,900 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: such as those relating to traffic management, solid waste disposal, flood mitigation and sewerage management, 114 00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:57,320 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: urban renewal, health and sanitation, and public safety, the MMDA was established under RA No. 7924, 115 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:08,720 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: with a mandate, among other things, to formulate, coordinate, regulate, and monitor the implementation of medium and long-term plans and programs for the delivery of Metro-wide services. 116 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:20,000 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: It works in close partnership with the 17 local governments to develop and implement integrated, sustainable, and resilient metropolitan development strategies for Metro Manila. 117 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:26,000 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Under House Bill No. 10858, or General Appropriations Bill for Fiscal Year 2027, 118 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:34,940 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: the MMDA seeks the approval of its proposed national subsidy in the amount of Php 6,560,912,000. 119 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:41,200 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: This allocation will provide the MMDA with the means and resources necessary to fulfill its mandate 120 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,840 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: and fund and implement its core programs on solid waste and disposal management, 121 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,600 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: traffic and transport management, flood mitigation and sewerage management, 122 00:25:51,220 --> 00:25:54,780 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Pasig River Ferry Service and MMDA Roadside Management Program. 123 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:57,040 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: These are programs and services, 124 00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:01,680 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: essential to the millions of Filipinos who live, work, and travel throughout Metro Manila. 125 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:11,900 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: In view of the foregoing, I respectfully urge my esteemed colleagues to support the immediate approval of the proposed budget of the MMDA for Fiscal Year 2027. 126 00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:15,720 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Thank you, Madam Speaker, and we are now ready to entertain questions from the floor. 127 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,820 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader? 128 00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:24,020 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Ega Erice of Caloocan 129 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,220 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: to interpellate the proposed 130 00:26:26,220 --> 00:26:26,720 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: budget of 131 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,320 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: the Metro Manila 132 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:27,860 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Development 133 00:26:27,860 --> 00:26:28,480 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Authority. 134 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:35,680 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The gentleman from the second district of Caloocan City, Representative Edgar Erice, is hereby recognized for his interpellation. 135 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:40,500 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you, our Majority Leader and our sponsor. 136 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Napakaliit po nung budget nung Metro Manila. 137 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:48,340 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Palagay ko, self-explanatory na ito. 138 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ang aking pakiusap lang, 139 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: baka pwede po nating dagdagan during the period of amendments. 140 00:26:56,140 --> 00:26:57,340 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, I move. 141 00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:59,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: that we terminate 142 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the consideration of 143 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: MMDA's 144 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,820 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: budget. 145 00:27:07,220 --> 00:27:08,480 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say? 146 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,580 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, on the part 147 00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:13,280 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: of the majority, we join the minority 148 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,180 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: in the motion to terminate the period of 149 00:27:15,180 --> 00:27:17,260 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: interpellations on the proposed budget of the 150 00:27:17,260 --> 00:27:18,810 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Metro Manila Development Authority. 151 00:27:18,810 --> 00:27:21,240 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations 152 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,400 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the proposed budget of the Metropolitan 153 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,040 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Manila Development Authority. 154 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,540 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 155 00:27:26,540 --> 00:27:28,940 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. 156 00:27:29,780 --> 00:27:31,240 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Congratulations, MMDA. 157 00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:32,220 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 158 00:27:33,220 --> 00:27:34,020 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 159 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,160 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes. 160 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended. 161 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. Majority Leader. 162 00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:40,030 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move to reconsider the termination of the interpellation of the budget of MMDA. 163 00:34:40,030 --> 00:34:46,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader. 164 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:55,720 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Antonio Tinio from ACT Teachers Party-List to interpellate the proposed budget. 165 00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:59,980 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Antonio Tinio of ACT Teachers Party-List is recognized for his interpellation. 166 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 167 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, 168 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilang paglilinaw po sana 169 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaugnay sa 170 00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:11,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: social media policy 171 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng MMDA. 172 00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:16,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Itong nakaraang 173 00:35:16,220 --> 00:35:18,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: July 14, 174 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagkaroon po ng isang insidente 175 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: where a video 176 00:35:24,220 --> 00:35:25,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uploaded to the 177 00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:26,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MMDA page 178 00:35:26,980 --> 00:35:28,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of 179 00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:32,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gabriel Christian Go 180 00:35:32,140 --> 00:35:33,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at the time 181 00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:34,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: head of the 182 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MMDA Special Operations 183 00:35:36,980 --> 00:35:38,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Group Task Force 184 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for Road Clearing. 185 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:43,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It was a video 186 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:44,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of him 187 00:35:44,660 --> 00:35:47,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: citing 188 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a 189 00:35:48,620 --> 00:35:51,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: teacher, a public school teacher 190 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for a traffic violation. 191 00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:55,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung insidente po na ito, 192 00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:56,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naging viral po ito. 193 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Million people, 194 00:35:58,700 --> 00:35:59,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: million po ang views 195 00:35:59,860 --> 00:36:02,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and subsequent to this incident 196 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay nagpahayag yung 197 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: teacher na sa feeling niya 198 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nalabag ang kanyang 199 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: right to privacy 200 00:36:11,780 --> 00:36:15,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at napahiya daw siya. 201 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At 202 00:36:17,140 --> 00:36:20,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: marami ang 203 00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:22,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tumangayon sa pagtingin, 204 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama na po ang kinatawang ito 205 00:36:25,660 --> 00:36:26,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na 206 00:36:26,340 --> 00:36:28,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isang bagay yung 207 00:36:28,580 --> 00:36:30,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagsita para sa traffic 208 00:36:30,620 --> 00:36:32,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: violation, tama lang yun 209 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:33,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung may paglabag. 210 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero ibang usapin, yung maging content 211 00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:38,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa 212 00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:41,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: social media page 213 00:36:41,260 --> 00:36:42,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at may kasama 214 00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:43,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pang 215 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pangangaral at 216 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayon sa teacher, yung pagpapahiya. 217 00:36:49,580 --> 00:36:50,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So yun po yung issue 218 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:52,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na gusto nating malinawan. 219 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: First of all, 220 00:36:57,260 --> 00:36:58,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede po bang malinawan? 221 00:36:58,580 --> 00:37:00,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang status nitong si 222 00:37:00,420 --> 00:37:02,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ginoong Gabrielle Christian Goh, 223 00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:05,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nananatili po ba siyang 224 00:37:05,220 --> 00:37:08,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: head pa rin ng 225 00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:10,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special Operations Group Task Force 226 00:37:10,380 --> 00:37:11,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for Road Clearing? 227 00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:15,560 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Madam Speaker, 228 00:37:15,980 --> 00:37:18,380 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: distinguished colleague, so sasabihin ko lang po 229 00:37:18,380 --> 00:37:19,820 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: yung status as of now 230 00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:22,780 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ng Clearing Operations, Gabrielle Goh. 231 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,700 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: So, hindi po siya 232 00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:26,640 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: sinuspend ngayon, 233 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,520 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: pero 234 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,000 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: nagmamonitor po siya still 235 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,380 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ng Clearing Operations 236 00:37:32,380 --> 00:37:34,980 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: via CCTVs po 237 00:37:34,980 --> 00:37:37,580 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: doon sa command center nila. 238 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,980 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Hindi rin po 239 00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:41,320 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: pwedeng itigil 240 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,880 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: of course ng MMDA fully 241 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,860 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ang kanilang Clearing Ops dahil 242 00:37:44,860 --> 00:37:47,220 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: obviously sa Metro Manila 243 00:37:47,220 --> 00:37:49,260 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ang dami hong lumalabag sa ganitong 244 00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:51,140 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: mga, yung nangyayari ho, ang daming 245 00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:53,240 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: sa banketa 246 00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:55,580 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: na sinasakop nila 247 00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:57,080 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: yung banketa. So, kailangan 248 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,720 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ipagpatuloy pa rin ho yung 249 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:01,500 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Clearing Ops. Meron ho silang 250 00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:03,820 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: he is undergoing 251 00:38:03,820 --> 00:38:04,740 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: administrative 252 00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:07,280 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: investigation as of now. 253 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,420 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Immediately ho, 254 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,300 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: after natanggap yung 255 00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:13,140 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: sulat po ng Teachers' Dignity 256 00:38:13,140 --> 00:38:15,040 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Coalition, ay 257 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,260 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: sinuspend na ho siya. Sinuspend 258 00:38:17,260 --> 00:38:19,440 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ho siya, hindi ho siya 259 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,180 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: kasama sa mga Clearing Ops 260 00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:23,180 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: on the ground. Doon po siya 261 00:38:23,180 --> 00:38:25,540 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: sa command center, nagmamonitor. 262 00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:27,060 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: So, dahil nga, 263 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,000 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: meron ho siyang 264 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,040 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: pending po yung kanyang investigation 265 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,000 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ngayon, administrative investigation. 266 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,380 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Ang resolution po nito 267 00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:37,540 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ay lalabas naman po 268 00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:38,680 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: within this year. 269 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,000 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Ngayon, kailangan rin ho 270 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,040 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: intindihin natin na ang 271 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,000 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: status niya ho ay 272 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,620 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: isa siyang regular employee. 273 00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:49,300 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: So, he has to be accorded 274 00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:50,200 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: due process. 275 00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:52,940 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Ang MMDA po ay 276 00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:55,420 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: sinulatan, inano ho siya 277 00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:57,040 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: asked him in 278 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,060 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: writing through a show-cause order 279 00:38:59,060 --> 00:39:01,360 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: doon ho sa naging incidenting ito. 280 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:02,800 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: So, 281 00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:04,640 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: aside from this, 282 00:39:05,020 --> 00:39:06,780 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: nag-undergo po siya ng five-day 283 00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:09,120 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: training, mentorship, coaching 284 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,460 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: on traffic management, 285 00:39:11,180 --> 00:39:12,760 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: focusing on leadership, 286 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,480 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: courtesy, discipline 287 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,900 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: with special attention 288 00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:19,420 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: to anger and stress management. 289 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,540 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Your Honor. 290 00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:23,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Madam Speaker, 291 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for that clarification. 292 00:39:24,580 --> 00:39:25,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 293 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para i-recap ko lang po 294 00:39:29,860 --> 00:39:31,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung batay sa naintindihan ko 295 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa sinabi niyo, nananatili siya sa MMDA. 296 00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:36,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: He is still with the 297 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: task force for road clearing. 298 00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:39,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 299 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero nagmamonitor siya ngayon 300 00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:44,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from the office, kumbaga. 301 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:45,360 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Yes, Your Honor. 302 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Not in the field. 303 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,060 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Not in the field anymore, Your Honor. 304 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And that he, as you mentioned, 305 00:39:49,860 --> 00:39:53,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: he has some pending cases. 306 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po ba? 307 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,800 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Administrative cases. 308 00:39:57,220 --> 00:39:58,760 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Which will have a resolution 309 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,620 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: the MMDA promised within this year po. 310 00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:03,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And the cases are in relation to 311 00:40:03,940 --> 00:40:06,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po yung mga kaso? 312 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:08,200 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: To that particular incident, Your Honor. 313 00:40:08,220 --> 00:40:09,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: To this particular incident. 314 00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:11,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, 315 00:40:11,980 --> 00:40:13,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay, pakibalik lang po. 316 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:14,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 317 00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito nga po yung July 14 318 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: incident, no? 319 00:40:19,940 --> 00:40:22,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At merong particular na 320 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: quotes 321 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from the 322 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: transcript of that incident 323 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:27,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: where the teacher 324 00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:29,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: specifically requests 325 00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:30,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Go, 326 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sir, baka pwede wag nyo nang 327 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:33,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iano sa ano? 328 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:34,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa ano nyo? 329 00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:36,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakakahiya, teacher ako. 330 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa context, maintindihan po natin 331 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na wag nyo nang 332 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: i-post 333 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa vlog nyo 334 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or sa account nyo. 335 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, yung ibig sabihin nung 336 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iano sa ano? 337 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam nyo naman ang Pilipino, 338 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ganyan ang language natin. 339 00:40:57,780 --> 00:40:58,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung babasahin mo lang 340 00:40:58,660 --> 00:41:00,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: out of content, parang di maintindihan. 341 00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:02,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero in the context of that situation, 342 00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:03,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maintindihan natin ang request niya. 343 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At malinaw din yung intent, no? 344 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:08,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil, nagre-request siya 345 00:41:08,340 --> 00:41:10,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil nakakahiya daw. 346 00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:12,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakakahiya daw dahil 347 00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:14,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: teacher siya. So, ayon yung 348 00:41:14,140 --> 00:41:16,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mahiya, pangalawa, konektado 349 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa pagiging teacher niya. 350 00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:19,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po issue dito. 351 00:41:21,140 --> 00:41:22,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At wala namang 352 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:23,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagde-deny. 353 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya may violation talaga yung teacher. 354 00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:28,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero ang request niya is 355 00:41:28,420 --> 00:41:30,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay, tanggap yung violation, pero 356 00:41:30,340 --> 00:41:31,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wag i-post. 357 00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:34,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, mas yun yung issue. 358 00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:36,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, the reply of 359 00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:38,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Goh was very telling. 360 00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:40,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Naka-blurred ka naman eh. 361 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Naka-blurred ka naman eh. 362 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Huwag ka na lang 363 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magpapakilala ng 364 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pangalan mo. Huwag ka na lang 365 00:41:47,980 --> 00:41:49,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magpapakilala ng pangalan mo. 366 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, again, to understand the context, 367 00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:53,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang ibig niya sabihin, 368 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ipopost kita, pero 369 00:41:56,260 --> 00:41:58,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibablurr ko yung mukha mo. 370 00:41:59,780 --> 00:42:00,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, 371 00:42:00,460 --> 00:42:02,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinabihan niya, huwag ka na lang 372 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magpakilala. 373 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ibig sabihin, 374 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para magamit pa rin niya, 375 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:10,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung 376 00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:12,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: video ay 377 00:42:12,580 --> 00:42:14,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: huwag na lang daw magpakilala. 378 00:42:15,380 --> 00:42:15,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 379 00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:18,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung po yung 380 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibig sabihin dito, 381 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: aware si Mr. Goh, 382 00:42:22,260 --> 00:42:23,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na may mga 383 00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:25,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: issues of privacy dito. 384 00:42:26,740 --> 00:42:28,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya sabi, huwag ka na lang magpakilala. 385 00:42:28,540 --> 00:42:29,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, parang gano'n. 386 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:30,520 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Mr. 387 00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:33,940 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Yes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 388 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,920 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Kasama po sa investigation, 389 00:42:36,340 --> 00:42:37,120 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: yung possible, 390 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,280 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: yung paglabag po sa aspeto 391 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,280 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: na yun na may nalabag siyang 392 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,180 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: aspect sa 393 00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:45,780 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: data privacy law. 394 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,320 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Yung contentious, 395 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,060 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: yung sagutan po na yun 396 00:42:50,060 --> 00:42:51,720 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ay kasama po sa investigation. 397 00:42:52,460 --> 00:42:53,000 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Kung possible, 398 00:42:53,020 --> 00:42:54,940 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: na meron siyang nalabag 399 00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:56,660 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: sa aspetong ito. 400 00:42:57,460 --> 00:42:58,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 401 00:42:58,940 --> 00:43:01,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And by the way, the issue here is 402 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: riding without a helmet. 403 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung 404 00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: usapin na yun ay wala namang 405 00:43:06,780 --> 00:43:08,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagko-contest 406 00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:10,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa usapin na yun. 407 00:43:11,020 --> 00:43:11,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 408 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:13,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next. 409 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. 410 00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:17,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pa po ba? 411 00:43:19,340 --> 00:43:20,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Now, 412 00:43:20,780 --> 00:43:22,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: why are we raising this 413 00:43:22,860 --> 00:43:24,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: issue? Hindi lang po dahil 414 00:43:24,660 --> 00:43:26,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: teacher ang 415 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: subject ng 416 00:43:28,220 --> 00:43:30,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: video in the incident 417 00:43:30,140 --> 00:43:32,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at 418 00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:36,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: siya mismo nagsabi na feeling niya 419 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nalabag ang kanyang right to privacy 420 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at siya rin na nagsabi na kahit 421 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: blurred yung video, lahat naman 422 00:43:42,860 --> 00:43:44,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang buong school niya 423 00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:46,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at yung kanyang community, nakilala naman 424 00:43:46,540 --> 00:43:47,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kagad kung sino siya. 425 00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:50,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya nga, sinabi rin ng National Privacy 426 00:43:50,860 --> 00:43:52,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Commission at saka ng Commission 427 00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:54,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on Human Rights, blurring 428 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: by itself is not 429 00:43:56,940 --> 00:43:58,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sufficient protection 430 00:43:58,740 --> 00:44:00,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the right 431 00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:02,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to privacy kung 432 00:44:02,380 --> 00:44:04,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: makikilala ka pa rin naman. 433 00:44:05,060 --> 00:44:06,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? So, hindi po 434 00:44:06,740 --> 00:44:08,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakasasapat. Yun ang paalala 435 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng National Privacy Commission. 436 00:44:10,580 --> 00:44:12,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi nakasasapat pagka 437 00:44:12,340 --> 00:44:12,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: blurred. 438 00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:16,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi ibig sabihin nun, nag-comply na 439 00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:18,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa protection of data 440 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: privacy. Okay. 441 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, ang issue rito is more 442 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: than just this incident, no? 443 00:44:24,620 --> 00:44:26,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung viral, naging 444 00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:28,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: viral yung insidente dahil 445 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: very contentious, 446 00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:32,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no? At 447 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede natin sabihin, divided 448 00:44:34,180 --> 00:44:36,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung based on the reactions 449 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the video, 450 00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:39,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: very contentious. 451 00:44:40,220 --> 00:44:42,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May mga iba nagsabi, eh nilabag naman 452 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: talaga niya eh. Ganon. 453 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iba, nagsabi, hindi naman yan ang issue. 454 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang issue dito 455 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay maraming 456 00:44:50,180 --> 00:44:51,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naglabas ng 457 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kanilang pagtingin. 458 00:44:54,860 --> 00:44:56,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung iba, sama ng loob na 459 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi lang naman ito 460 00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isolated incident. 461 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung hindi, previously ay maraming mga insidente na involved si Mr. Go na ganyan. 462 00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:19,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na may sisitahin for some violation or other, tapos gagawing content sa vlog, 463 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:28,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: parang ginagawang sa ating salita, parang ordinaryong salita, sinasampulan. 464 00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:32,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon, di ba? Ginagawang example para maging aral sa iba. 465 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At dahil doon, napapahiya. Di ba? Na hindi naman necessary. 466 00:45:39,820 --> 00:45:45,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang sinasabi ng iba, may paglabag, sitahin mo, bigyan mo ng ticket, tapos na. 467 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi yung sitahin mo, bigyan mo ng ticket, gagawing kang content, 468 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:55,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: papapanood ka ng milyong-milyong tao habang pinapangaralan ka 469 00:45:55,220 --> 00:45:59,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at minsan, in a humiliating manner. 470 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So yun po yung issue. 471 00:46:01,940 --> 00:46:08,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Therefore, ang issue po natin dito, yung social media policy ng MMDA. 472 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:17,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At yun nga, kaya tayo nag-interpolate dahil confusing po yung public statements ng MMDA. 473 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang contradictory. 474 00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:19,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Contradictory. 475 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is not... 476 00:46:25,220 --> 00:46:26,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May gusto po kayong sabihin. 477 00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:30,640 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 478 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:37,960 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: institutional practice naman po ng MMDA, yung kailangan din sila mag-recording for, 479 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,600 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: may record sila ng traffic law enforcement, traffic monitoring, 480 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,460 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ginagawa naman po nila rin for record purposes. 481 00:46:47,940 --> 00:46:55,100 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: However, minsan talaga nag-go-go over, beyond doon, dahil sinishare ng iba, 482 00:46:55,220 --> 00:47:04,700 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: in this case, si Clearing Ops, Gabriel Goh, maaaring na ilagay niya yun sa kanyang personal vlog. 483 00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:15,580 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Dito ho, again, nandito ho siya iniimbestigahan ngayon, tinitingnan nga po kung maaaring lumabag ho siya doon sa data privacy law. 484 00:47:17,420 --> 00:47:18,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 485 00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:18,500 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Your Honor. 486 00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:24,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po ba the previous year, nagkaroon na po ng insidente involving Goh? 487 00:47:25,220 --> 00:47:28,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And a certain police officer. 488 00:47:29,420 --> 00:47:32,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba na merong ganong insidente? 489 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,500 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Yes, Your Honor. 490 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And after that, may pahayag po si Chairman Artes na nakikita ko dyan, sabi niya, 491 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may policy na raw ang MMDA, bawal! 492 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang personal, ang uploading of... 493 00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:53,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paano nga ba yun? 494 00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:55,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Good. 495 00:47:55,220 --> 00:48:03,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Could we clarify from the MMDA, ano ba yung exactly yung in-issue nila na policy after that 2025 incident? 496 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:13,060 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Your Honor, institutional recording po sana yung ginawa, for recording purposes po ng MMDA. 497 00:48:13,540 --> 00:48:24,360 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: So, gaya po nang sinabi ko, kasalukuyan po siyang iniimbestigahan ngayon, kung posibleng nga meron siyang, he went overboard in that aspect po. 498 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:24,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. 499 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:32,060 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Kaya, kung meron man siyang violation sa data privacy, yun po yung, we are still awaiting that investigation as of now, Your Honor. 500 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:32,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 501 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:40,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In a press conference, ito po sinabi niya, quote, ipagbabawal natin yung mga personal posts about operations. 502 00:48:41,380 --> 00:48:42,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gagawin namin ay institutional. 503 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:49,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MMDA na lang magpopost ng clearing operations natin, whether pictures or video. 504 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Photos and videos of operations shall be posted by its public... 505 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Public Information Office via Facebook, X, Instagram, etc. 506 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:07,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi niya, napirman ko na actually yung regulation regarding pagpopost ng actual na trabaho. 507 00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:11,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po yung regulation na binabanggit ni Chairman Artes? 508 00:49:16,060 --> 00:49:20,080 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Madam Speaker, Your Honor, yun po. 509 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,520 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Kung, inaalam po ngayon kung kunyari may paglabas... 510 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:36,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, ma'am. Tinatanong lang kung ano yung written regulation, official regulation on social media posting. 511 00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:37,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dapat institutional. 512 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:45,740 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Ang pinagbabawal na po ngayon yung pag-share po ng institutional na video. 513 00:49:46,260 --> 00:49:46,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 514 00:49:46,460 --> 00:49:50,640 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Sorry. Yun po pala yung pwede. Yung pag-share po ng institutional. 515 00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:53,980 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Ang hindi po po pwede, yung sa personal po. 516 00:49:54,680 --> 00:50:00,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anong gusto po natin malaman, kasi hindi po easily available or accessible, 517 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:11,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: halimbawa sa MMDA website, yung exact memorandum or order containing this policy. 518 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para malinaw po. Ano po yun? 519 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:18,260 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, MMDA will furnish you today... 520 00:50:18,260 --> 00:50:18,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oh, yes, please. 521 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,920 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ...with a complete and a complete copy po of that direct... 522 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, please. We will expect it... 523 00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:27,180 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ...for clarity. 524 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ...within the day. Pwede po. 525 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,160 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: And also the show-cause order po of... 526 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Thank you. We would appreciate that. 527 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,160 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: ...of that in that case. 528 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:37,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, okay. So mukhang meron ng standing policy na ganon. 529 00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:40,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan ang nililinaw ng MMDA. 530 00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:51,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, days after the incident, certain MMDA officials made seemingly contradictory statements. 531 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for example, July 20. 532 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MMDA General Manager, General Manager niyo po, Nicolás Torre III, 533 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:10,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mentioned a no-restriction policy to prevent personal blogging using MMDA footage. 534 00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:17,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As long as there's no law being violated, wala kaming restriction na hard and fast rule 535 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:23,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ibigay sa mga tao namin na pigilan na huwag niyong i-post ang mga bagay na ginagawa niyo, 536 00:51:23,940 --> 00:51:26,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: especially sa mga senior officers. 537 00:51:27,180 --> 00:51:32,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi namin pwedeng gawin kasi part ng trabaho ng MMDA is to educate the people. 538 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mas marami kaming maririch na ito. 539 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mas marami kaming maririch na ito pala. 540 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag hindi ka nag-helmet, e, violation yan. Ticket mo. 541 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:52,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, batay sa statement ng General Manager sa publiko. 542 00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:53,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: General Manager. 543 00:51:53,940 --> 00:51:55,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nicolás Torre. 544 00:51:56,180 --> 00:51:59,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Eh, sinasabi niya, walang restriction. Pwede namang i-post. 545 00:52:00,580 --> 00:52:02,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mas maraming maririch. 546 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,200 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 547 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun po, kaya po medyo nalilito tayo. 548 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:09,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba talaga? 549 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:16,120 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Miss Distinguished Colleague, we will be honest, MMDA will be honest, 550 00:52:16,660 --> 00:52:20,480 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: bago lang ho si General Manager Torre. 551 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,680 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: So, hindi ho siya possibly aware. 552 00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:27,820 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Doon sa rule po na yan ng MMDA. 553 00:52:28,820 --> 00:52:37,600 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: But we will remind him kapag, and all his employees, kapag kung bumalik man siya after his leave. 554 00:52:39,380 --> 00:52:39,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 555 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:49,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, aside from General Manager Torre, si Chairman Artes din po, 556 00:52:49,660 --> 00:52:53,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron din mga statement to the effect na after the incident, 557 00:52:53,940 --> 00:52:58,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi naman bawal kumuha ng footage in public. 558 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:04,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, this was in defense or in reaction to the allegation na 559 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: binayulate niyo yung data privacy right ng individual. 560 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, could that be explained? Anong explanation po noon? 561 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:18,780 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Ang, your honor, ang sinabi po ni Chairman, hindi po bawal kumuha kung public place. 562 00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:22,780 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Pero yung pagpo-post po is another matter entirely. 563 00:53:22,780 --> 00:53:23,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 564 00:53:23,780 --> 00:53:24,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 565 00:53:24,780 --> 00:53:32,780 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Kaya po, nagkakonsult po sila sa Data Privacy Commission ngayon dahil sa mga ganyang mga insidente po. 566 00:53:32,780 --> 00:53:33,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 567 00:53:33,780 --> 00:53:45,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, so, malinaw ang policy mula 2025 na hindi pwede yung personal vlogging of official MMDA operations, tama po? 568 00:53:45,780 --> 00:53:46,780 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Yes, your honor. 569 00:53:46,780 --> 00:53:51,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung kalakaran ni Mr. Goh na nakikita natin na habang nagkakonsult, 570 00:53:51,780 --> 00:53:52,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 571 00:53:52,780 --> 00:54:00,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nag-operation siya, meron pang parang private individual yun na sumusunod sa kanya at nag-be-video. 572 00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:01,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sama po ba? 573 00:54:02,780 --> 00:54:07,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That is not officially sanctioned? Hindi po official na pinahihintulutan? 574 00:54:08,780 --> 00:54:11,780 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Your honor, again, institutional practice po yun. 575 00:54:11,780 --> 00:54:17,780 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Yun po yung record purposes na pinapayaga naman po for law enforcement, traffic violation. 576 00:54:17,780 --> 00:54:18,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 577 00:54:18,780 --> 00:54:28,780 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: So, mayroon talaga ng contention doon sa kung pwede po i-post, saan po yung hanggang saan po yung pagpo-post sa personal vlog po? 578 00:54:28,780 --> 00:54:30,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 579 00:54:30,780 --> 00:54:45,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The chair of the, the vice chair, sorry, the chair pala, sorry, I see him here. 580 00:54:45,780 --> 00:54:46,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 581 00:54:46,780 --> 00:55:14,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The chair of the House Committee on Metro Manila Development, Committee on Metro Manila Development, the honorable Dean Asistio, wrote to me, and enclosing a copy of the MMDA's position paper on the MMDA's official response to a copy of the House Resolution. 582 00:55:14,780 --> 00:55:15,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 583 00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:17,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of the House Resolution that we filed on this incident. 584 00:55:18,780 --> 00:55:21,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: House Resolution 1370. 585 00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:32,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At the reply was in, was signed by, was prepared by and signed by Chairman Artes. 586 00:55:33,780 --> 00:55:34,780 Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales: Correct. 587 00:55:35,780 --> 00:55:42,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At may mga, sagot po siya doon sa mga tanong, including some of those that you mentioned on the record in this interpolation. 588 00:55:43,780 --> 00:55:45,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Doon na lang po ako sa dulong bahagi. 589 00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:50,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi natin, kasi sa resolution sabi natin, may paglabag po, 590 00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:55,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi lang si Gabriel Go as an individual, kung hindi, 591 00:55:55,620 --> 00:56:03,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pati yung MMDA, nang pinost nila yung insidente at naging viral ito, 592 00:56:03,740 --> 00:56:07,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: despite the statements of the teacher. 593 00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:09,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And let me just go back. 594 00:56:15,780 --> 00:56:21,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para malagay ko rin on the record, yung sinabi nung teacher mismo na involved. 595 00:56:22,420 --> 00:56:26,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The teacher wrote a letter to the MMDA. 596 00:56:26,060 --> 00:56:27,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So let me just quote, 597 00:56:27,660 --> 00:56:32,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Despite my request, the encounter was later uploaded to social media 598 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: where it generated widespread public attention 599 00:56:35,380 --> 00:56:40,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and subjected me to embarrassment, ridicule, and public judgment. 600 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:41,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unquote. 601 00:56:42,340 --> 00:56:43,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So yun po yung sinabi niya. 602 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: He also requested the takedown. 603 00:56:45,780 --> 00:56:47,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the video of his apprehension, 604 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:49,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: along with, quote, 605 00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:55,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: any other similar videos that unnecessarily demean individuals 606 00:56:55,060 --> 00:56:59,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or violate their rights to privacy, dignity, and respectful treatment. 607 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:00,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unquote. 608 00:57:00,620 --> 00:57:08,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So yun po yung nasa sulat ng teacher na subject nung video na ito. 609 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, bilang sagot po sa issue na yun, 610 00:57:11,620 --> 00:57:14,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi ng MMDA through Chairman Artes, 611 00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:15,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala pong paglabag. 612 00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:24,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ginawa ang MMDA as an institution sa data privacy rights ng sinuman. 613 00:57:24,540 --> 00:57:26,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang sabi niya rito, 614 00:57:27,260 --> 00:57:38,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang sabi po rito, and this is where I want clarification, 615 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:45,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the MMDA categorically denies that it has consented to, 616 00:57:45,780 --> 00:57:51,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or allowed Mr. Goh to videotape any valid MMDA clearing operation. 617 00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:58,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And let me quote further, 618 00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:06,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the MMDA has not legitimized or planned to legitimize 619 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:12,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: any of the online MMDA-related content 620 00:58:12,060 --> 00:58:15,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: published by the said 621 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:16,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dada Ku channel. 622 00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:22,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Earlier, it was mentioned, 623 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in fact, the videos were uploaded onto the channel of a certain Dada Ku, 624 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: D-A-D-A, and then K-O-O, 625 00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:35,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a channel that is neither connected nor authorized by the MMDA 626 00:58:35,700 --> 00:58:37,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to upload such footage. 627 00:58:38,220 --> 00:58:41,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, parang ang sinasabi po, 628 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na yung video na yun, 629 00:58:43,860 --> 00:58:45,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kinuha at in-upload sa isang 630 00:58:45,780 --> 00:58:47,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: private channel called Dada 631 00:58:47,740 --> 00:58:49,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ku. Yes. 632 00:58:49,860 --> 00:58:50,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And therefore, 633 00:58:51,420 --> 00:58:53,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: walang sabit 634 00:58:53,660 --> 00:58:56,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang MMDA. Tama po ba? 635 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:57,660 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Yes, the Honorable 636 00:58:57,660 --> 00:58:59,880 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Representative Tino, it is a 637 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:01,000 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: private channel, 638 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,940 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: it is a channel of a private 639 00:59:03,940 --> 00:59:05,700 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: person, and thus 640 00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:08,060 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: the MMDA will really have no control 641 00:59:08,060 --> 00:59:10,180 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: over the said private channel. 642 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:11,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, 643 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:11,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: however, 644 00:59:13,940 --> 00:59:15,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung babalik natin yung 645 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:16,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: video kanina, 646 00:59:17,580 --> 00:59:18,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung video na nag-viral po, 647 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:21,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a screenshot of which, 648 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:23,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan, 649 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung video na yan, yan po nag-viral na yan, 650 00:59:27,140 --> 00:59:27,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it is on 651 00:59:27,620 --> 00:59:28,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the MMDA page, 652 00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:31,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the MMDA Facebook 653 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:32,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: page. 654 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hanggang ngayon, 655 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:38,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nandun pa rin po. 656 00:59:39,380 --> 00:59:40,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kagabi lang, 657 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: chinek namin, and it is 658 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the July 14, 659 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: post, one of the 660 00:59:47,860 --> 00:59:49,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: posts on July 14 661 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the MMDA page 662 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: itself. So, in other words, 663 00:59:55,780 --> 00:59:57,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: institutional posting 664 00:59:57,860 --> 00:59:59,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: po ito. Hindi po ba? 665 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,360 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Yes. The said post is indeed institutional because it is part of the reporting of the institution to the public about clearing operations. 666 01:00:11,740 --> 01:00:17,520 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: But the video will not be found anywhere in that Facebook page of the institution. 667 01:00:18,260 --> 01:00:22,760 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: That video, that very video, no, it's not a picture. 668 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It's not a picture. It's the post itself. 669 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:34,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? Pakicheck nyo na lang po. Facebook account nyo yan. 670 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:42,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I'm sure one of your social media persons will be able to confirm this. 671 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hinanap po namin sa MMDA Facebook page. 672 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:54,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At yung video mismo ng insidente na yun ay nananatili pa rin sa Facebook account. 673 01:00:56,060 --> 01:00:57,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Video po yan. 674 01:00:57,420 --> 01:00:57,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. 675 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I-winshot lang namin yun. Ayaw na namin i-play dito yung video. 676 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:06,880 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Yes, the Honorable Tino. So the chairman is now double-checking and making sure. 677 01:01:07,420 --> 01:01:11,620 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: And if such is the case, of course, this will be brought down right away. 678 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Well, yun na nga po. 679 01:01:14,940 --> 01:01:19,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, at least nalinaw na natin yung policy. 680 01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:21,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So may malinaw na policy po talaga. 681 01:01:23,060 --> 01:01:27,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga operatives ng MMDA may document, may use video to document. 682 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The incidents. 683 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:36,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, no posting to personal logs or accounts. 684 01:01:37,220 --> 01:01:38,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede ang institutional posting. 685 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:40,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, that's clear. 686 01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:45,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And Mr. Goh is suspended from field operations. 687 01:01:46,260 --> 01:01:49,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: He is currently in the HQ, I suppose. 688 01:01:50,580 --> 01:01:56,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And he is undergoing certain administrative... 689 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: administrative... 690 01:01:57,420 --> 01:02:05,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cases or facing certain administrative cases related to the social media issue. 691 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:06,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, klaro na po yun. 692 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:13,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, ang isang issue ko na lang po ay sa kabila nung policy ng MMDA 693 01:02:13,820 --> 01:02:22,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at yung pagkilala nila na dapat i-respeto ang right to privacy ng mga individual. 694 01:02:23,180 --> 01:02:25,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kahit pa sabihin mong violator, yes, violator. 695 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:26,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero may right to privacy. 696 01:02:27,420 --> 01:02:28,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pa rin ang mga ito. 697 01:02:29,460 --> 01:02:29,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 698 01:02:30,140 --> 01:02:34,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, unfortunately, ang nakita po natin, 699 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that very same video still remains on the website. 700 01:02:40,260 --> 01:02:48,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, as has been pointed out by several institutions, 701 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: notably the National Privacy Commission and the Commission on Human Rights, 702 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahit po nakablur yung mukha niya, 703 01:02:57,420 --> 01:03:02,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh yung kanyang komunidad, madali siyang makikilala. 704 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:09,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Therefore, may paglabag sa rights, sa privacy rights ng individual. 705 01:03:09,580 --> 01:03:16,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil, hindi naman kailangang mapahiya ka sa madla 706 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:24,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para lang masita ka at managot sa iyong paglabag na nagmotor ka ng walang helmet. 707 01:03:24,700 --> 01:03:25,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Natutuon namang paglabag. 708 01:03:25,980 --> 01:03:26,620 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Yes. 709 01:03:26,620 --> 01:03:28,800 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Yes, the Honorable Madam Speaker. 710 01:03:28,980 --> 01:03:29,940 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Yes, the Honorable Tino. 711 01:03:30,740 --> 01:03:34,160 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: And for this, the institution apologizes deeply 712 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,260 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: and ensures that all measures will be taken 713 01:03:38,260 --> 01:03:40,720 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: so none of the same incident will be repeated. 714 01:03:41,820 --> 01:03:42,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 715 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:44,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po dun sa apology. 716 01:03:44,980 --> 01:03:48,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The apology is for the teacher, of course. 717 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:53,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero para na rin po sana dun sa marami pang mga individual 718 01:03:53,020 --> 01:03:56,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ginawang sample sa page ng... 719 01:03:56,620 --> 01:03:59,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MMDA 720 01:03:59,140 --> 01:04:01,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: without their consent. 721 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So siguro ganoon ang policy. 722 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung gusto nyo magkaroon ng lesson for others, 723 01:04:07,340 --> 01:04:10,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kailangan naman pumayag yung subject. 724 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag sinabi nung subject, katulad nung teacher, 725 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sir, pwede po ba, huwag nyo ng ano? 726 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:17,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: E di hindi pwede. 727 01:04:17,420 --> 01:04:18,400 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Yes, the Honorable Tino. 728 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kano lang naman po kasimple yun, di ba? 729 01:04:20,460 --> 01:04:21,600 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Yes, Madam Speaker. 730 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,520 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: This will be taken into consideration 731 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,680 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: and as mentioned earlier, 732 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:30,180 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: all these guidelines will again be brought down 733 01:04:30,180 --> 01:04:33,180 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: and all employees will be reminded of such. 734 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And hopefully the general manager of MMDA 735 01:04:36,660 --> 01:04:41,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: will now become more familiar with the policies 736 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:46,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including the social media policies of his own institution. 737 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,800 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Yes, Sir Honorable Tino, Madam Speaker. 738 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So with that, Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po. 739 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you to the MDA for this important clarification. 740 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I have no more questions, Madam Speaker. And 741 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,040 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 742 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:09,460 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 743 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,040 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, 744 01:05:11,940 --> 01:05:17,360 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: I move to recognize the Honorable Bong Suntay 745 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:22,060 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: from Quezon City to interpellate the proposed budget. 746 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: A representative of the 4th District of Quezon City, 747 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,740 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Bong Suntay is now recognized for his interpellation. 748 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:29,380 Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay: Thank you. 749 01:05:29,580 --> 01:05:32,860 Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay: Madam Speaker, there being no other members of the minority 750 01:05:32,860 --> 01:05:34,260 Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay: who wishes to interpolate, 751 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,320 Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay: I move that we terminate the period of interpolation 752 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,340 Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay: on the part of the minority. 753 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:39,820 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say? 754 01:05:40,340 --> 01:05:42,060 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, 755 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,580 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: we join the minority in the motion to terminate 756 01:05:44,580 --> 01:05:48,100 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: the period of interpolations on the proposed budget of the MMDA. 757 01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:50,860 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion to terminate interpolations 758 01:05:50,860 --> 01:05:55,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: on the proposed budget of the Metropolitan Manila, 759 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Development Authority. 760 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:57,640 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 761 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:58,940 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. 762 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,260 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The interpolations on the proposed budget of said agency 763 01:06:02,260 --> 01:06:03,440 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is hereby terminated. 764 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,220 Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo: Thank you again, Madam Speaker. 765 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:06,340 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 766 01:06:08,020 --> 01:06:08,660 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, 767 01:06:08,660 --> 01:06:11,000 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: I move to consider the proposed budget 768 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,660 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: of the Department of Justice and its attached agencies. 769 01:06:15,140 --> 01:06:16,400 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 770 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:17,780 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. 771 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:18,800 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The motion is approved. 772 01:06:19,460 --> 01:06:20,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 773 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,520 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials 774 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,080 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: of the Department of Justice, 775 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,380 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: and attached agencies. 776 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,840 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Secretary Fredderick A. Vida, 777 01:06:29,180 --> 01:06:31,460 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez, 778 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,580 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Undersecretary Deo L. Marco, 779 01:06:34,260 --> 01:06:36,500 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Undersecretary Nicholas Felix L. Ty, 780 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:42,420 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong, 781 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,780 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Undersecretary Ian Norman E. Dato, 782 01:06:46,340 --> 01:06:49,340 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Undersecretary Garney M. Candelaria, 783 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,780 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Prosecutor General Richard Anthony D. Fadullon, 784 01:06:52,820 --> 01:06:55,740 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Chief State Counsel Dennis Arvin L. Chan, 785 01:06:55,980 --> 01:06:59,560 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Director General Gregorio P. O. Catapang, Jr., 786 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,040 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado, 787 01:07:02,340 --> 01:07:06,040 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios, 788 01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:08,500 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Director Melvin A. Matibag, 789 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:13,560 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Executive Director Jose Maria R. Palaganas, 790 01:07:16,660 --> 01:07:21,020 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Government Corporate Counsel Solomon M. Hermosura, 791 01:07:21,020 --> 01:07:26,640 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Solicitor General Darlene Marie Berberabe, 792 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,840 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: OIC Administrator Wilson R. Suba, 793 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,320 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang, 794 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,480 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: and Chief Public Attorney Persida V. Rueda Acosta. 795 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:45,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: We acknowledge the presence of the officials from the Department of Justice and its attached agencies. 796 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:51,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: I was a sponsor of their budget during the 16th Congress. 797 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Welcome to the House of Representatives. 798 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 799 01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,160 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate. 800 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. 801 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The motion is approved. Majority Leader. 802 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:15,160 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the honorable Vice Chairperson Keith Micah, 803 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:20,160 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Attorney Mike D. L. Tan of the Committee of Appropriations, 804 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:24,160 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: to sponsor the proposed budget of the Department of Justice. 805 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. 806 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:37,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Attorney Mike Tan is hereby recognized to begin the sponsorship of the budget of the Department of Justice and its attached agencies. 807 01:08:38,810 --> 01:08:45,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues, good morning po sa ating lahat. 808 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:49,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: It is my honor to sponsor the budget of the DOJ, including its attached agencies, 809 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:58,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: for fiscal year 2027, amounting to 46.435 billion pesos, inclusive of the automatic appropriations. 810 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:04,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: In terms of new appropriations, which is subject for congressional approval, 811 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:10,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the total budget of the DOJ amounts to 43.305 billion pesos, 812 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:18,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: which represents an increase of about 1.13 percent, or 485.028 million pesos higher, 813 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:26,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: than the fiscal year 2026 level of 42.820 billion pesos. 814 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:34,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The proposed 46.435 billion pesos budget is broken down by agency as follows. 815 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:38,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Office of the Secretary, 13.930 billion pesos. 816 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bureau of Corrections, 11.932 billion pesos. 817 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:47,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bureau of Immigration, 2.980 billion pesos. 818 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:51,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Land Registration Authority, 3.279 billion pesos. 819 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:56,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: NBI, 3.027 billion pesos. 820 01:09:56,160 --> 01:10:03,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Office of Alternative Dispute Resolution, 138.756 million pesos. 821 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:08,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Office of the Government Corporate Counsel, 310.168 million pesos. 822 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:12,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Office of the Solicitor General, 2.142 billion pesos. 823 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Parole and Probation Administration, 1.254 billion pesos. 824 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:25,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Philippine Commission on Good Government, 338.676 million pesos. 825 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:31,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And the Public Attorney's Office, amounting to 7.101 billion pesos. 826 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:35,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: This budget will support the department's programs, projects, and its operation 827 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:39,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: for the effective, efficient, and equitable administration of justice. 828 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:45,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: DOJ, being the government's principal law agency, serves as the government's prosecution arm 829 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:50,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and administers the government's criminal justice system 830 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:55,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: by investigating crimes, prosecuting offenders, and overseeing the correctional system. 831 01:10:55,160 --> 01:11:00,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: It is also the government's legal counsel and representative in litigations and proceedings 832 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: requiring the services of a lawyer. 833 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:08,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: It implements the Philippine laws on the admission and stay of aliens within the territory 834 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:14,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and provides free legal services to indigent and other qualified citizens. 835 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:20,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: With its many responsibilities, the proposed budget is essential in ensuring 836 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:26,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: that the DOJ and its attached agencies have the personnel, facilities, technology, and operational resources 837 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: they need in order to effectively fulfill their respective mandates. 838 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:37,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: This will allow the department to strengthen its services, improve the efficiency of case management and prosecution, 839 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:42,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: modernize its systems, enhance our correctional and rehabilitation programs, 840 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: continued access to legal assistance, 841 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:51,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and strengthen its capacity to address emerging challenges in law enforcement and border security. 842 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:56,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: This will ultimately translate into a justice system that is more accessible, efficient, 843 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: meaningful, and responsive to the Filipino people. 844 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 845 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The representation is now ready to answer questions from our colleagues. 846 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,950 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader? 847 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:12,160 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley de Jesus 848 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,160 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: from PHILRECA Party-list to interpellate 849 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,160 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: on the proposed budget of the Department of Justice. 850 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Presley de Jesus of PHILRECA Party-list 851 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is hereby recognized for his interpellation. 852 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 853 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:31,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: May the distinguished sponsor yield some questions from this representation? 854 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:32,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker. 855 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:37,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor. 856 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:42,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: This is with regard with the border system modernization and safeguards 857 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: against irregular departures. 858 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:51,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The Bureau of Immigration's project for enhancement of its border management information system 859 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:57,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: received approximately 3.8 billion in 2025, 860 01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:05,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: but recorded only 103.3 million in disbursement, or 2.7 percent. 861 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Question. 862 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:12,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What is the current implementation status of the border management 863 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: modernization project, 864 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:20,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and which deliverables are already operational? 865 01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:25,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you for that question, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. 866 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:32,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, for the E-gate project, there is a delay in the implementation. 867 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:36,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The E-gate project is implemented in three phases. 868 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The amount 869 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: told by our distinguished colleague is roughly 870 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: accurate, the phase 1 project 871 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: under GAAT 2024 872 01:13:46,380 --> 01:13:48,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: was already awarded 873 01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:49,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: only on December 874 01:13:49,820 --> 01:13:51,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 18, 2025. 875 01:13:51,980 --> 01:13:53,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And it's already ongoing 876 01:13:53,820 --> 01:13:56,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: deployment to Clark 877 01:13:56,060 --> 01:13:57,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: International Airport, Mactan-Sebu 878 01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: International Airport, Davao 879 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: International Airport, Bohol-Pangalaw 880 01:14:02,300 --> 01:14:03,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: International Airport. 881 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The implementation 882 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: schedule was affected by circumstances 883 01:14:10,460 --> 01:14:12,340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: beyond the Bureau's 884 01:14:12,340 --> 01:14:14,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: control. Phase 1, funded 885 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: under the GAAT 2024 886 01:14:16,340 --> 01:14:18,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: was timely 887 01:14:18,300 --> 01:14:20,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: subjected to a competitive bidding 888 01:14:20,020 --> 01:14:22,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: but there was a failure 889 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:22,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of bidding. 890 01:14:25,020 --> 01:14:26,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Necessitating a 891 01:14:26,140 --> 01:14:28,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: re-bidding process but during the re-bidding 892 01:14:28,220 --> 01:14:30,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nagkaroon po ng donation ang 893 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:30,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: UNIA 894 01:14:30,900 --> 01:14:34,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: incorporated ng mga 895 01:14:34,380 --> 01:14:36,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: e-gates. Kaya 896 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kinailangan pong mag-amend po ulit 897 01:14:38,260 --> 01:14:40,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sila ng kanilang bidding 898 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:40,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: process. 899 01:14:40,460 --> 01:14:42,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kasi na-cover na po yung ibang 900 01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:44,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: e-gates na ilalagay. 901 01:14:44,980 --> 01:14:45,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So ngayon po, 902 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung phase 1 po ay 903 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ongoing na po. Total of 904 01:14:50,580 --> 01:14:52,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 47 e-gates po yung 905 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ilalagay sa iba't 906 01:14:54,700 --> 01:14:56,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ibang airport po na nabanggit 907 01:14:56,580 --> 01:14:58,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng representasyong ito. 908 01:14:58,840 --> 01:14:59,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang phase 2 po, 909 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ay already undergoing procurement process. 910 01:15:05,460 --> 01:15:07,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ito po yung underga at 2025. 911 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So meron pong mga scheduled dates na po 912 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng advertisement, pre-bid conference, 913 01:15:13,900 --> 01:15:15,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: bid submission and opening, 914 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: bid evaluation and post-qualification. 915 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung phase 3 na lang po yung gagawin pa po yung 916 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: technical specifications, 917 01:15:23,220 --> 01:15:25,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker and Distinguished Colleague. 918 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Postal. 919 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So in short, itong 3.8 billion natin noong 2025 920 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: will be implemented this year? 921 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: That's what the Bureau of Immigration is going for. 922 01:15:37,860 --> 01:15:39,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung phase 1 and phase 2 po, 923 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: at least for this year po ma-obligate po 924 01:15:42,020 --> 01:15:43,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng atin pong Bureau of Immigration. 925 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So what will happen kung hindi nyo ma-implement 926 01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:48,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2026, the rest of the 3.8 billion? 927 01:15:49,420 --> 01:15:51,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Will it be carried over ngayon 2027? 928 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:52,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Will that be allowed? 929 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:54,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 930 01:15:54,940 --> 01:15:57,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung phase 3 na wala pa pong 931 01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:58,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: technical specifications, 932 01:15:58,460 --> 01:15:59,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: it will be carried over. 933 01:15:59,660 --> 01:16:01,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero sinusubukan pa rin po ng 934 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bureau of Immigration na 935 01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:04,340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mapadali po yung 936 01:16:04,340 --> 01:16:06,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kanilang proseso ng procurement po. 937 01:16:07,220 --> 01:16:07,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you. 938 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The reason why I asked that question eh, 939 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: because it's so important 940 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:12,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: with regard to our border system, 941 01:16:12,860 --> 01:16:14,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: modernization, kaya 942 01:16:14,020 --> 01:16:16,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: gusto ko rin malaman kung talagang 943 01:16:16,940 --> 01:16:20,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ito yung natutugunan ng ating ahensya. 944 01:16:21,180 --> 01:16:22,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kung hindi, pwede tayo siguro 945 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: humihingi pa rin ng tulong, no? 946 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But again, thank you for that 947 01:16:25,300 --> 01:16:26,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: candid answer. 948 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, and of course, 949 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:30,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: this is your sponsor. 950 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:31,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My follow-up question, 951 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: which airports, seaports, and other 952 01:16:34,300 --> 01:16:37,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: authorized entry and exit points 953 01:16:37,380 --> 01:16:40,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: remain outside the upgraded system? 954 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:42,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Meron pa ba tayo hindi kasama 955 01:16:42,300 --> 01:16:43,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sa minensyon nyo? 956 01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:46,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So yung nabanggit ko po, 957 01:16:47,060 --> 01:16:50,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung ongoing deployment, 958 01:16:50,500 --> 01:16:52,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ito po talaga yung kailangan ng 959 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:53,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga e-gates. 960 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ito po yung Clark International Airport, 961 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mactan Cebu International Airport, 962 01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Davao International Airport, 963 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and yung Panglao. 964 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bohol-Panglao International Airport. 965 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ito po yung kailangan pa pong lagyan. 966 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yun po yung tinutugunan ng 967 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bureau of Immigration ngayon na 968 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: malagyan po this year o 969 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ma-deploy po nila yung mga e-gates this year. 970 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, in short, Madam Speaker, 971 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: this is your sponsor kasi sa 972 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2027 budget nyo kasama itong tatlong 973 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: mention na seaport and airport. 974 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Would that be part of that? 975 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:26,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, po. 976 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Actually, kasama na po siya sa 977 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:31,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 2025, 2026. 978 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yun na lang po, implementation na lang po 979 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung hinihintay po natin. 980 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, this issue. 981 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, hindi pa napapabid dyan? 982 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Napabid na po. 983 01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang deliverables po, ang alam ko po ay 984 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: by December 2026, madeliver na po lahat. 985 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 986 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Distinguished sponsor. 987 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My follow up question, 988 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: how quickly are valid 989 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: court orders and other 990 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: legally authorized alerts 991 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: reflected at immigration 992 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: counters? 993 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Real time ba tayo kapag nag 994 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: may mga alert tayong ginagawa? 995 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, this issue 996 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: once na maipadala po 997 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung order, encoded na po 998 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: agad yun ng Bureau of Immigration. 999 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Real time? 1000 01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Once na mapasok agad sa mga 1001 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: immigration counter? 1002 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Once ma-receive po ng BI. 1003 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Once ma-receive po ng 1004 01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: official na order, 1005 01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: once ma-receive po ng Bureau of Immigration, 1006 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nai-encode na po agad ng Bureau of Immigration. 1007 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker, 1008 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and of course, distinguished 1009 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sponsor. 1010 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How does the Bureau distinguish an alert 1011 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: requiring monitoring from an 1012 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: order legally restricting 1013 01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: departure? 1014 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May I request again? 1015 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: What's the question? 1016 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How does the Bureau 1017 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: distinguish an alert requiring 1018 01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: monitoring from an order 1019 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: legally restricting departure? 1020 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, this issue ulit ang 1021 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pagkakaiba po ng 1022 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: alert order and 1023 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: legally 1024 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: restricting departure. 1025 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung alert order po usually 1026 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nagnagaling po sa mga warrant of arrest 1027 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and request by different agencies 1028 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: to implement that 1029 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: alert order. 1030 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung legally restricting 1031 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: departure may come from 1032 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: different factors. 1033 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:57,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung alert 1034 01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: order po is kapag lalo na po 1035 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kapag may ongoing 1036 01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: investigation po ang 1037 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ating po ang 1038 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: law enforcement agencies. 1039 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Distinguished colleague, Madam Speaker. 1040 01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, 1041 01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor. 1042 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, what 1043 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: review mechanism 1044 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is available to travelers affected 1045 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by mistaken 1046 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: identity around 1047 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: news alert? Kasi lalo yung 1048 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: magkakapangalan, di ba? Madalas 1049 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: mangyari yan. So ano bang 1050 01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ginagawa natin? Bisa na-hold sila, 1051 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: namimiss nila yung flight nila. 1052 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Do you have any mechanism 1053 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or 1054 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sinusunod tayong 1055 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: mga SOP 1056 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: pag ganyan na mistaken identity 1057 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: lalo pare-pareho ang pangalan? 1058 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi sa atin, karamihan dito 1059 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: magkakaroon ng same 1060 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: name eh. Juan de la Cruz, 1061 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Juan Luna, 1062 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: halos pare-pareho ang mga pangalan natin. 1063 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 1064 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague, 1065 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: as per the administrative 1066 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: remedy, more on internal 1067 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po yung ginagawa po 1068 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng ating Bureau of Immigration, 1069 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung immigration officer naman po 1070 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: will determine or assess 1071 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung siya ba talaga 1072 01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung taong na doon sa 1073 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: alert order if 1074 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hindi pa rin po ma-determine ng immigration 1075 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: officer. Tsaka lang po 1076 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nagre-require yung ating Bureau of Immigration 1077 01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng 1078 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: clearance 1079 01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: from the 1080 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: NBI 1081 01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: or any other law enforcement 1082 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: agency na makakatulong po 1083 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa pag-identify 1084 01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng taong ito. Madam Speaker, 1085 01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague. Madam Speaker, 1086 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: distinguished sponsor, 1087 01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is there any instances 1088 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: na nahold natin 1089 01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: although it was a mistaken identity? 1090 01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So I'm not blaming 1091 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the Bureau of Immigration kasi 1092 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: baka nangyayari ito 1093 01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: na nami-miss nila yung kanilang 1094 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: flight. Is there any instance 1095 01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nangyari yan? 1096 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: That's possible po because 1097 01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: may mga data nga daw pong kulang-kulang 1098 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung 1099 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pag-assess po ng ating mga 1100 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: immigration officer hindi po kompleto. 1101 01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So may mga data nangyayari yan. 1102 01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is it in your 1103 01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: database kung sakali 1104 01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ang pangalan Juan de la Cruz 1105 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: may picture naman siya 1106 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and then the person with the same name 1107 01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: but carrying 1108 01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: identification with different 1109 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: face naman, would you allow 1110 01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that or you still have to wait 1111 01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: para magkaroon pa rin ng 1112 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: clearance coming from your 1113 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: superior or the head? 1114 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:25,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: That's possible po 1115 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague to help 1116 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: them assess, lalo na po yung ating mga 1117 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: immigration officers para 1118 01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ma-determine po nila yung pagkakakilanlan 1119 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: doon sa taong ngayon 1120 01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and yung 1121 01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bureau of Immigration naman po ay 1122 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: can also issue 1123 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: a clearance 1124 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: for that person. 1125 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So 1126 01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: dahil po sa mga ganyang instances 1127 01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang hiling po talaga ng 1128 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bureau of Immigration is ma-modernize 1129 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po yung mga sistema nila para po mas 1130 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: madali po yung counter checking ng ating 1131 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: immigration officers or 1132 01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: meron na po talagang sistema 1133 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na sila na po mismo ang magka-counter check 1134 01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung ating mga immigration officer 1135 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: magiging pang-verify na 1136 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: lang po kapag hindi po ma-assess ng ating 1137 01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga sistema. 1138 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker. 1139 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker 1140 01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that's the reason why I'm asking this question. 1141 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Dapat tulungan talaga natin 1142 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: immigration to upgrade 1143 01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: yung kanilang sistema 1144 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: yung kanilang modernization. 1145 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So ako I'm with you 1146 01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the modernization kasi 1147 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I think tayo lang, I'm not saying na 1148 01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: tayo pinakahuli siguro pero 1149 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to the developed country talaga 1150 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nauna sila. They have 1151 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: their database 1152 01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: na sama-sama na different 1153 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: agencies na tutulong dyan. 1154 01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again so much so 1155 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for that Madam Speaker I move 1156 01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to prison congestion 1157 01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and delayed 1158 01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: infrastructures, infrastructure 1159 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: projects. The bureau of 1160 01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: corrections, prisoners 1161 01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: custody and safe keeping 1162 01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: program increases from 1163 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 8.47 billion 1164 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in 2026 1165 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to 9.81 billion 1166 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in 2027. 1167 01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: National prisons 1168 01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: reported a congestion 1169 01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: rate of approximately 1170 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 250% in 1171 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2025. 1172 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Eight infrastructure projects 1173 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: worth 2.05 1174 01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: billion 1175 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: had exceeded their target 1176 01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: completion dates 1177 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by periods ranging from 1178 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 10 to 1179 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 1,456 1180 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: days. We're talking about 1181 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: almost 1182 01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: four years. 1183 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How many additional 1184 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: usable prison spaces 1185 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: will the proposed 1186 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2027 1187 01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: allocation 1188 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: deliver? 1189 01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: For 1190 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 2027 1191 01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung additional PDL 1192 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: capacity po ng ating mga 1193 01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: infrastructure 1194 01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and facilities po ng ating Bureau of 1195 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Corrections would be 1196 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 6,210 PDL 1197 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: capacity. 1198 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker this is 1199 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Can you come again? Ilan yun? 1200 01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung additional PDL 1201 01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: capacity po ng ating pong 1202 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: tina-target ng ating pong 1203 01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bureau of Corrections for 1204 01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the year 1205 01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 2027 an increase of 1206 01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 6,210 1207 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: PDL capacity po for 1208 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: across the 1209 01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: penal farms. 1210 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 6,000 capacity natin. Ilang 1211 01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: yung cell yun? 1212 01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In one cell ilan ba yung ating 1213 01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: prisoner or ating PDL? 1214 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Anong ratio 1215 01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: natin per 1216 01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: cell? 1217 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker this is 1218 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: actually it would depend on the 1219 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: category daw po ng ating pong 1220 01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: penal 1221 01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: facility kapag maximum 1222 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po usually 4 lang po yung nasa 1223 01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: isang cell. Kapag medium 1224 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: around 15 1225 01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and yung 1226 01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: minimum po ay around 20 PDLs 1227 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:44,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po ang kasya sa isang 1228 01:27:44,980 --> 01:27:45,270 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: cell. 1229 01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:46,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So in short, Madam, 1230 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:47,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it varies. 1231 01:27:47,180 --> 01:27:49,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kumpara, kumpara sa ano, okay. 1232 01:27:49,480 --> 01:27:53,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Follow up question. Which delay 1233 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: projects are expected to become 1234 01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: operational? Tapos tayo. How does the department 1235 01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: intend to achieve 1236 01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: its 2027 congestion 1237 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: rate target of 1238 01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 160%? 1239 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:07,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So madam 1240 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Speaker distinguished colleague lahat naman 1241 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po ng mga facilities na 1242 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na procure po ng ating pong 1243 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bureau of Correction are 1244 01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ongoing. As you 1245 01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: said may mga delayed projects. 1246 01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They are already 1247 01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: talking about 1248 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: legal actions na pwede po may 1249 01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ano sa ating pong mga contractor dahil 1250 01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po sa delay. Pero yung iba po 1251 01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: meron pong 1252 01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang target date ay 1253 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: December 2026. 1254 01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ito po yung sa 1255 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Regional Prison Facility 1256 01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng Sablayan Prison 1257 01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: on June 2027. 1258 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung maximum 1259 01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Prison Facility 1260 01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng Sablayan Prison. 1261 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: June 2027 rin po ang ating pong 1262 01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Regional Facility 1263 01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng Iwahig 1264 01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Prison and Penal 1265 01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Farm Puerto Princesa. 1266 01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: June 2027 rin po 1267 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang target date for 1268 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Correctional 1269 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Institute for Women 1270 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Iwahig Prison. 1271 01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And 1272 01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: for December 2026 po 1273 01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung isang Regional Facility 1274 01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po ng ating pong Iwahig Prison 1275 01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and Penal Farm 1276 01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung target pong matapos po. 1277 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So 1278 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the Bureau of 1279 01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Corrections are 1280 01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: acknowledged that they are at delays but they are 1281 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: taking the right steps to 1282 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na maihabol po yung 1283 01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: implementation na to na 1284 01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mapaganda po yung mga facilities. 1285 01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Siyempre may sinusundan rin po tayong mga 1286 01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: international standards lalo na po yung 1287 01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: karapatat na po ng ating pong mga PDL. 1288 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you for that answer 1289 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker. 1290 01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Distinguished Sponsor, 1291 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: even though they are PDLs, 1292 01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: we still recognizing their 1293 01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:58,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: rights. 1294 01:29:58,900 --> 01:30:00,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you for that. 1295 01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yung iwahig, you mentioned iwahig, is that in Palawan ba yan? 1296 01:30:04,580 --> 01:30:05,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po. 1297 01:30:05,620 --> 01:30:08,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How many hectares ang iwahig natin? 1298 01:30:09,580 --> 01:30:12,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 32,000 hectares po, Madam Speaker. 1299 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 32,000 hectares, napakalaki pala. 1300 01:30:15,660 --> 01:30:19,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is that considered, please educate me, enlighten me, 1301 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ito ba considered na maximum friction ba ito? 1302 01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Wala kasi akong idea, so gusto ko lang malaman. 1303 01:30:25,740 --> 01:30:31,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Halo-halo na po, Madam Speaker, they're a maximum facility, minimum and medium. 1304 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yeah, kasi lagi lang natin narinig yung national belief natin. 1305 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I-kumpara mo, siguro malayo ang difference nun, no? 1306 01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:45,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Can we consider the iwahig na ponduan tas mas marami natin ilagay na tao? 1307 01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Anyway, it's 30,000 hectares pala, napakalaki pala yan. 1308 01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:54,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, karamihan dun, ano ba yung mga convicted natin, mga PDLs, halo-halo rin ba? 1309 01:30:54,980 --> 01:30:55,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Halo-halo. 1310 01:30:55,740 --> 01:30:57,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Halo na rin po, Madam Speaker. 1311 01:31:00,900 --> 01:31:09,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang karamihan po dun ay yung mga minimum po na marapit na pong lumabas, Madam Speaker. 1312 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, we cannot build more buildings pala dun, no? 1313 01:31:11,900 --> 01:31:15,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi karamihan dun, mga minimum lang pala ang ano dun, palabas na. 1314 01:31:15,500 --> 01:31:20,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi within NBP, masyado nang, I think, congested tayo dyan eh. 1315 01:31:20,980 --> 01:31:23,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, that's the reason why my next question, 1316 01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: na I think it's related, no? 1317 01:31:26,780 --> 01:31:29,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: When it comes to health facilities natin, no? 1318 01:31:30,340 --> 01:31:33,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kamusta naman yung mga ating mga PDL dun? 1319 01:31:34,340 --> 01:31:35,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Maano ba naman sila? 1320 01:31:35,260 --> 01:31:36,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: There being, ano, yung sakit. 1321 01:31:37,060 --> 01:31:42,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi once na nagkasakit, may duma, may bumisita, baka kako mahawa, 1322 01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:43,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: na lumabas naman. 1323 01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Maayos ba ang kanilang pasilidad dun? 1324 01:31:46,820 --> 01:31:50,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: When it comes, especially itong mga diseases na pumapasaan. 1325 01:31:50,220 --> 01:31:53,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Well, the Bureau. 1326 01:31:53,020 --> 01:31:55,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The Bureau of Corrections are trying their best. 1327 01:31:55,840 --> 01:32:01,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: But since the allowance for PDL is only at 30 pesos, 1328 01:32:01,020 --> 01:32:07,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: they're barely managing, so that's why nagre-request pa rin po 1329 01:32:07,020 --> 01:32:10,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung ating Bureau of Corrections na medyo mapataas 1330 01:32:10,020 --> 01:32:17,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para at least man lang po makalidad yung care na maibigay po sa ating mga PDLs 1331 01:32:17,020 --> 01:32:22,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na may binadaing pong mga sakit sa loob po ng ating mga Bureau of Corrections facilities. 1332 01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:24,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker. 1333 01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, you heard it, no? 1334 01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:30,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 30 pesos per PDL? 1335 01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:31,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, per day. 1336 01:32:31,260 --> 01:32:32,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: A day, per day. 1337 01:32:32,220 --> 01:32:34,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Isipin nyo po, 30 pesos. 1338 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:36,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Halos wala ng value ngayon yan. 1339 01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So ako, Madam Speaker, no? 1340 01:32:39,860 --> 01:32:46,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The beautiful speaker natin, Madam Speaker, kailangan tugunan natin ito na dagdagan ang pondo. 1341 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:47,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Nakakawa ang DOJ. 1342 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:51,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sila ang laging tinatamaan pag nagkakasakit, napapabayaan daw. 1343 01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:52,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pero, 1344 01:32:53,020 --> 01:32:56,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: with the 30 pesos, talagang masyadong mababa yan. 1345 01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:57,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, 1346 01:32:58,040 --> 01:32:58,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: my next question, 1347 01:32:59,300 --> 01:33:00,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: our personal, what? 1348 01:33:01,340 --> 01:33:01,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Personnel. 1349 01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:09,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Our personnel, water, sanitation, health facilities, security equipment, and operating expenses 1350 01:33:09,220 --> 01:33:11,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: funded together with the buildings. 1351 01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:13,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Naka-embedded ba yun? 1352 01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:15,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pag nagpagawa ng buildings, sama-sama na sila ron? 1353 01:33:16,860 --> 01:33:19,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kasama na po, Madam Speaker, 1354 01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:21,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: at Singi School. 1355 01:33:23,020 --> 01:33:27,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker, no? 1356 01:33:27,300 --> 01:33:29,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So before I move on to another topic, no? 1357 01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:34,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, I would like to reiterate with the, as far as the Bureau of Correction, na dapat talaga 1358 01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: dagdagan natin ang pondo. 1359 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:41,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi, although they are PDLs, may human rights pa rin tayo dapat sundin sa kailan. 1360 01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Para naman, as you said, na kailangan standard, di ba? 1361 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:46,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yes. 1362 01:33:46,340 --> 01:33:49,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sa international standard na dapat natin sinusunod. 1363 01:33:49,580 --> 01:33:52,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, my next topic will be online, sexual. 1364 01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sexual abuse or exploitation of children. 1365 01:33:57,340 --> 01:34:06,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The Department's Special Protection of Children Activities recorded a disbursement rate of approximately 6.9% in 2025. 1366 01:34:07,980 --> 01:34:16,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Cases involving online sexual abuse or exploitation of children require specialized investigators. 1367 01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:20,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I mean, talking about specialized investigators. 1368 01:34:20,140 --> 01:34:22,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Rapid preservation of... 1369 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:24,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: electronic evidence, 1370 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: international cooperation, 1371 01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:30,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and continuing assistance for victims. 1372 01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:32,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I think napaka-importante na ito. 1373 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:33,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Question. 1374 01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:41,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What explains the low utilization of funds for the special protection of children activities? 1375 01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:31,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So yung low utilization po, there are different factors. 1376 01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mainly, for 2025 po ba ito? 1377 01:35:36,940 --> 01:35:38,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yeah. 1378 01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:44,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And maybe, because 2026 is where there's one more quarter. 1379 01:35:44,540 --> 01:36:01,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, 2025. So, we can base our... 1380 01:36:01,540 --> 01:36:10,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, for the year 2025, yung underutilization po, yung justification niya for underspending it, 1381 01:36:10,900 --> 01:36:14,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: may delays po in the submission of comments from CSP. 1382 01:36:14,540 --> 01:36:21,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: We see member agencies, and may mga partnership po kasi with UNICEF na mga workshops na 1383 01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:25,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang nag-shoulder po nung gastos ay yung UNICEF po. 1384 01:36:25,700 --> 01:36:28,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, bisigis ko ulit. 1385 01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker. I didn't even know na UNICEF pala involved dito. 1386 01:36:34,780 --> 01:36:39,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: DOJ, talagang maayos talaga ang inyong pagpapatakbo. 1387 01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:43,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My follow-up question, what resources are specifically provided 1388 01:36:43,660 --> 01:36:44,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for 1389 01:36:44,540 --> 01:36:52,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in 2027 for cases involving online sexual abuse or exploitation of children? 1390 01:36:54,460 --> 01:37:02,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, this coming 2027 budget natin, what kind of resources is specifically provided para sa mga cases? 1391 01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:10,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano yung mga pwede niyo pang isama para naman lalo natin mapaganda at mapalakas ang ating laban 1392 01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:13,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: kontra sa mga ganitong sexual abuse and exploitation of children? 1393 01:37:13,700 --> 01:37:19,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May I clarify, Madam Speaker, yung sources po? 1394 01:37:19,820 --> 01:37:22,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yes, sources. Funding natin. 1395 01:37:22,820 --> 01:37:24,340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ah, sources of funding po. 1396 01:37:24,340 --> 01:37:35,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Actually, that's why the interagency against trafficking and yung ating special protection for children 1397 01:37:35,860 --> 01:37:41,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ay nanghihingi po ng dagdag budget. At least, maipantay po natin doon sa 2026 levels. 1398 01:37:41,940 --> 01:37:51,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kasi medyo komplikado na po yung ating pong yung mga kaso ngayon ng OSA-XSAM, trafficking, 1399 01:37:51,320 --> 01:38:00,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: medyo complicated na po, cross-borders na po yan. May mga international syndicates na pong involved. 1400 01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:08,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, ang request po talaga ng ating pong Office of the Secretary para po sa mga programang ito, 1401 01:38:09,220 --> 01:38:11,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ma-increase po to... 1402 01:38:11,940 --> 01:38:21,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, appropriately authorize support for time-sensitive and investigative operational and intelligence victim protection activities, Madam Speaker, and... 1403 01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 1404 01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:33,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I have more questions about that online child exploitation, but I have only, what, four minutes, so I have to move forward, no? 1405 01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Bilisan ko na. Siguro, I have only two to three questions left. 1406 01:38:36,380 --> 01:38:41,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But after this, I'll give you my questionnaire, so at least, mapag-aralan niyo po. 1407 01:38:41,940 --> 01:38:43,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: At least, that will help, no? 1408 01:38:43,780 --> 01:38:47,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But again, I only support DOJ when it comes to your budget. 1409 01:38:47,900 --> 01:38:52,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Trafficking and scam operations following the offshore gaming ban. 1410 01:38:52,160 --> 01:39:08,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The closure of licensed Philippine offshore gaming operations, or POGO, has not eliminated the risk that criminal groups will continue online fraud, trafficking, illegal gambling through smaller and more dispersed establishments. 1411 01:39:08,660 --> 01:39:11,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Meanwhile, the 2025 disbursement rate... 1412 01:39:11,940 --> 01:39:19,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For DOJ, anti-trafficking activities was approximately 46.9%. 1413 01:39:19,380 --> 01:39:23,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Medyo mababa ata tayo, not even the threshold of 50%. 1414 01:39:23,460 --> 01:39:29,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: For the 2025? 1415 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:30,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yes. 1416 01:39:41,940 --> 01:39:55,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: For the low utilization of the IACAT, the low utilization of the 2025 budget, 1417 01:39:59,220 --> 01:40:09,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nagkaroon po ng konting mga problema or delay, lalo na po dun sa mga consultancy services, may delay in the approval of the Terms of Reference, 1418 01:40:10,580 --> 01:40:11,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung... 1419 01:40:11,940 --> 01:40:19,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng mga ICT equipment po, hindi po na-procure, pero ongoing procurement naman po sila. 1420 01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:27,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Office equipment, payment was made early, 2026, for the procured scanner. 1421 01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:40,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Tapos may mga representation expenses, hindi po natuloy due to frequent mga natural calamities and frequent disasters. 1422 01:40:40,780 --> 01:40:41,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, 1423 01:40:41,940 --> 01:40:53,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: may mga trainings rin po, na hindi po natuloy, dahil po hindi po napayakan yung budget na nakalaan po dun sa training na yun. 1424 01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:54,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 1425 01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:59,040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker, for my last question. 1426 01:41:00,140 --> 01:41:01,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because I'm running out of time. 1427 01:41:01,900 --> 01:41:04,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: DOJ responds to the Zamboanga school shooting. 1428 01:41:04,540 --> 01:41:11,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: On August 18, 2026, a grade 9 student opened fire at the high school campus. 1429 01:41:11,940 --> 01:41:22,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Of Ateneo de Zamboanga University, killing another student and injuring others before taking his own life. 1430 01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The incident was live streamed online. 1431 01:41:26,740 --> 01:41:33,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And the firearms used were reportedly linked to the assailant's father, a Bureau of Customs official. 1432 01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:38,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The president directed authorities to conduct a full investigation. 1433 01:41:38,260 --> 01:41:41,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: It was the second fatal school shooting reported. 1434 01:41:41,940 --> 01:41:45,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In the country, within approximately two months. 1435 01:41:46,780 --> 01:41:51,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Question, which law enforcement agency is presently leading the investigation? 1436 01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:58,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And what stage will the DOJ National Prosecution Service or National Bureau of Investigation become involved? 1437 01:42:00,140 --> 01:42:09,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Actually, ano po, buong DOJ po, yung mga nag-investiga, NBI, meron na pong cases filed 1438 01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: against the father of the student. 1439 01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:15,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Father of the shooter and the school security guard po. 1440 01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:24,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, they're already filing information before the courts. 1441 01:42:24,440 --> 01:42:30,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, tuloy-tuloy na po yung pag-prosecute po ng ating po nga DOJ dito sa mga kasong ito. 1442 01:42:32,380 --> 01:42:32,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yeah. 1443 01:42:33,860 --> 01:42:41,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, Madam Speaker, that will end my interpellation, again, on behalf of my party-list. 1444 01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:53,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I fully support the budget of DOJ, especially pagdating po sa ating law enforcement agency, yung pong online natin. 1445 01:42:53,320 --> 01:43:05,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That's why during our plenary debate here, the DICT talaga naman, we condemn yung ating mga online, mga platforms natin. 1446 01:43:05,140 --> 01:43:09,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, I hope the DOJ family will look into it, no? 1447 01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Para naman maproteksyon na natin. 1448 01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:22,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ang mga kabataan, grade 9 student, napakabata, mag-open fire, and then naka-livestream pa online. 1449 01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:29,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I think something to do na pagdating ito sa mga social platforms natin. 1450 01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 1451 01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:34,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 1452 01:43:34,340 --> 01:43:40,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Actually, may ando na po coordination with the ICT regarding these instances para po maiwasan na po itong mga ganitong pangyayari. 1453 01:43:42,100 --> 01:43:42,790 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 1454 01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:53,060 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Perci Cendaña from Makbayan Party-list to interpellate on the proposed budget. 1455 01:43:54,180 --> 01:43:58,500 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Perci Cendaña of Akbayan Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation. 1456 01:43:58,980 --> 01:44:07,580 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, and good morning to our very able sponsor of the budget of the DOJ, Representative Keith Micah Tan. 1457 01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:10,080 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: And good morning to the DOJ family. 1458 01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:15,420 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Yung una po nating tanong ay tungkol kay Apollo Quibuloy. 1459 01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:25,380 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Last week po sinabi ng DOJ na they are currently reviewing the documents relative to the extradition of Apollo Quibuloy. 1460 01:44:26,180 --> 01:44:31,800 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: May we ask po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, kung ano na ang status nito? 1461 01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:59,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, since medyo confidential po, we would like to give you a copy na lang po nung report nila and yung may ongoing petition po kasi. 1462 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:01,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: for 1463 01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: that case. 1464 01:45:05,900 --> 01:45:07,860 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: We will yield, Madam Speaker, 1465 01:45:08,060 --> 01:45:10,200 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: good sponsor, pero for the information 1466 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:12,180 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of the public, ano po ba 1467 01:45:12,180 --> 01:45:14,120 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang steps relative 1468 01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:15,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: to the review of 1469 01:45:15,980 --> 01:45:17,820 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: requests like this for 1470 01:45:17,820 --> 01:45:18,700 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: extradition? 1471 01:45:42,650 --> 01:45:44,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Madam Speaker, 1472 01:45:44,220 --> 01:45:46,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung dokumento po 1473 01:45:46,020 --> 01:45:47,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na manggagaling po sa atin pong 1474 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: United States Government 1475 01:45:50,220 --> 01:45:51,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: will be 1476 01:45:51,480 --> 01:45:53,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sent here. 1477 01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:55,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They will be evaluated 1478 01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: vis-a-vis the extradition 1479 01:45:58,040 --> 01:45:59,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: treaty. So, 1480 01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang challenges na lang po para po sa atin pong 1481 01:46:02,220 --> 01:46:04,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: DOJ is very voluminous po yung 1482 01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:05,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: documents po na nanggaling po sa ating 1483 01:46:05,900 --> 01:46:08,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: US Government na 1484 01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:09,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: medyo natatagalan, pero may 1485 01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:12,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: commitment naman po sila isasama po 1486 01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: dun sa report po 1487 01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:16,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: this English 1488 01:46:16,060 --> 01:46:17,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: colleague, if we 1489 01:46:17,500 --> 01:46:20,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: give it to your office. Medyo 1490 01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: confidential po 1491 01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:23,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kasi para hindi rin maudlot 1492 01:46:23,980 --> 01:46:24,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung mga 1493 01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:28,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: activities po na ginagawa po 1494 01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:29,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng ating pong DOJ. 1495 01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:32,140 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues, 1496 01:46:32,300 --> 01:46:33,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: again, we understand the 1497 01:46:33,980 --> 01:46:36,440 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: position of the DOJ in terms 1498 01:46:36,440 --> 01:46:37,960 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of the procedures and 1499 01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:39,420 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: keeping the 1500 01:46:39,420 --> 01:46:42,420 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: developments confidential, pero kasi po 1501 01:46:42,420 --> 01:46:44,160 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: nagtatanong din ang taong bayan 1502 01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:46,200 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at masalong lalo na po yung mga 1503 01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:48,100 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: biktima ng kahiyupan ni 1504 01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:50,400 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Apollo Quibuloy as to the status of 1505 01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,080 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: this case. So, siguro po 1506 01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:54,260 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: as a last point on this matter, 1507 01:46:54,820 --> 01:46:56,280 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: are we looking at 1508 01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,220 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: this year or next year 1509 01:46:58,220 --> 01:46:59,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na magkakaroon po ng major development? 1510 01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:01,940 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Pasensya na po, I have to 1511 01:47:01,940 --> 01:47:03,620 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: pursue this issue because this is 1512 01:47:03,620 --> 01:47:06,300 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: an issue that's very urgent 1513 01:47:06,300 --> 01:47:08,100 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: and pressing that needs immediate 1514 01:47:08,100 --> 01:47:08,900 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: attention. 1515 01:47:08,900 --> 01:47:10,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang commitment po 1516 01:47:10,100 --> 01:47:12,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng DOJ is this 1517 01:47:12,100 --> 01:47:13,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: year po may major accomplishment 1518 01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po ang ating pong DOJ 1519 01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:17,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with regard to that matter. 1520 01:47:18,300 --> 01:47:20,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, distinguished 1521 01:47:20,220 --> 01:47:20,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: colleague. 1522 01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:21,940 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, 1523 01:47:22,140 --> 01:47:24,060 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: distinguished sponsor, we will hold to task 1524 01:47:24,060 --> 01:47:26,020 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: DOJ for that commitment na this year 1525 01:47:26,020 --> 01:47:28,040 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: magkakaroon ng major development 1526 01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:29,840 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: on this matter, on the 1527 01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:31,900 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: extradition of Apollo Quibuloy. 1528 01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:34,100 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Usapang ano pa rin po 1529 01:47:34,100 --> 01:47:34,820 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang 1530 01:47:34,820 --> 01:47:38,260 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mga taong pinagkahanap ng batas. 1531 01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:39,720 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ito naman po ay si 1532 01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Harry Roque. Nung isang 1533 01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:43,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: araw naman, nabalitaan natin na na-deny 1534 01:47:43,980 --> 01:47:45,500 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang asylum application 1535 01:47:45,500 --> 01:47:48,000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ni Harry Roque. Tanong alam po 1536 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,220 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: natin sa DOJ, anong repercussions 1537 01:47:50,220 --> 01:47:52,000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng pagka-deny ng kanyang 1538 01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:53,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: application for asylum? Madam 1539 01:47:53,980 --> 01:47:55,280 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Speaker, distinguished sponsor. 1540 01:48:13,190 --> 01:48:15,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Madam Speaker, 1541 01:48:15,420 --> 01:48:16,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague, 1542 01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: if verified po yung 1543 01:48:19,440 --> 01:48:20,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: reports na denied yung 1544 01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: asylum application po 1545 01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:23,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng 1546 01:48:23,420 --> 01:48:27,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: individual involved in that case, 1547 01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: there is no legal 1548 01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:29,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: impediment. 1549 01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:31,340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: anymore for the Austrian government 1550 01:48:31,340 --> 01:48:33,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: to deport him, lalo na po 1551 01:48:33,780 --> 01:48:35,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: at undocumented 1552 01:48:35,180 --> 01:48:37,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang individual involved in this case 1553 01:48:37,580 --> 01:48:38,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: doon po sa 1554 01:48:38,900 --> 01:48:41,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: lugar na iyon. 1555 01:48:41,860 --> 01:48:43,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. 1556 01:48:44,260 --> 01:48:46,000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 1557 01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:47,660 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: thank you very much for clearing 1558 01:48:47,660 --> 01:48:49,900 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: that up. And marami 1559 01:48:49,900 --> 01:48:52,140 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: po tayong mga kababayan ang naniniwala 1560 01:48:52,140 --> 01:48:53,760 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na kung totoo nga po 1561 01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:55,860 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang denial ng asylum at tulad 1562 01:48:55,860 --> 01:48:57,480 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: po na nabanggit ninyo, wala nang 1563 01:48:57,480 --> 01:48:59,420 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: impediment para ma-deport siya at 1564 01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:02,280 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa Pilipinas. Sana po matutukan 1565 01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,020 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng DOJ ang mga kaso ni 1566 01:49:04,020 --> 01:49:06,260 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Apollo Quiboloy at Harry Roque. 1567 01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:07,940 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: We have to make sure that justice 1568 01:49:07,940 --> 01:49:09,940 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: is served as soon as 1569 01:49:09,940 --> 01:49:11,880 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: possible. Let me move on to 1570 01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:13,700 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: another topic, Madam Speaker, 1571 01:49:13,820 --> 01:49:15,660 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: distinguished sponsor. 1572 01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:17,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: In 2024, Bucor 1573 01:49:17,980 --> 01:49:19,720 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: inaugurated a 120 1574 01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:22,060 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: bed hospital facility 1575 01:49:22,060 --> 01:49:23,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: in the New Bilibid Prison Compound. 1576 01:49:23,980 --> 01:49:25,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: However, with Bucor 1577 01:49:25,980 --> 01:49:28,080 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: having a massive inmate population, 1578 01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:29,380 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: jail congestion, 1579 01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:31,060 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: and healthcare limitations, 1580 01:49:31,780 --> 01:49:34,220 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ito pa rin remains critical. 1581 01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:35,940 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So ang tanong po ay, 1582 01:49:36,180 --> 01:49:37,900 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: may sapat po bang medical facilities 1583 01:49:37,900 --> 01:49:39,880 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang Bucor para sa libo-libong 1584 01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,320 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: PDLs na mayroong malalang sakit? 1585 01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:55,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Actually, 1586 01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:57,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 1587 01:49:57,960 --> 01:49:59,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Gish Kolig, maganda po na 1588 01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:01,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: bring up niyo po. Wala po silang sapat 1589 01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:03,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na medical facilities. Actually, 1590 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nag-re-request pa po sila sa Department 1591 01:50:05,980 --> 01:50:08,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of Health na mabigyan rin po 1592 01:50:08,180 --> 01:50:10,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng mga dialysis machines 1593 01:50:10,060 --> 01:50:11,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po yung ating Bureau of Corrections, lalo 1594 01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po doon sa mga nangangailangang 1595 01:50:14,100 --> 01:50:14,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: PDL. 1596 01:50:15,700 --> 01:50:17,800 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nareflect po ba itong requests for 1597 01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:19,660 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: improvement and augmentation 1598 01:50:19,660 --> 01:50:21,600 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng health facilities doon sa original 1599 01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:23,820 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: proposal ng Bucor for the budget? 1600 01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:34,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As for the 1601 01:50:34,540 --> 01:50:36,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: original submission po, Madam Speaker, 1602 01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:37,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hindi po siya reflected. 1603 01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:40,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: That's why they're requesting po 1604 01:50:40,660 --> 01:50:42,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa DOH na sana po sa kanila po 1605 01:50:42,940 --> 01:50:44,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: manggaling yung facilities 1606 01:50:44,620 --> 01:50:46,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: since technically 1607 01:50:46,380 --> 01:50:48,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: they are more 1608 01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:52,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: experienced in that matter. 1609 01:50:54,300 --> 01:50:54,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung 1610 01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:56,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mandato po kasi ng 1611 01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:58,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bucor is to 1612 01:50:58,620 --> 01:50:59,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: rehabilitate rin po sa 1613 01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:01,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: PDLs and yung 1614 01:51:01,780 --> 01:51:04,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: focus po talaga nila ay yung 1615 01:51:04,220 --> 01:51:06,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pag-lessen po ng prison 1616 01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:07,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: congestion para 1617 01:51:07,500 --> 01:51:10,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: makaabot rin po 1618 01:51:10,780 --> 01:51:12,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: doon sa international standards 1619 01:51:12,440 --> 01:51:13,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na 1620 01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:16,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: inanais po 1621 01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:18,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: natin, Madam Speaker 1622 01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:19,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Distinguished Colleague. 1623 01:51:19,460 --> 01:51:20,080 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, 1624 01:51:20,180 --> 01:51:22,360 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Distinguished Colleague, meron na po bang nabuo 1625 01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:24,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na interagency 1626 01:51:24,980 --> 01:51:26,620 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: or bilateral body 1627 01:51:26,620 --> 01:51:28,320 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: that looks into these issues 1628 01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:29,740 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: between the Bucor, 1629 01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:31,880 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: the DOH, and other relevant agencies. 1630 01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:32,040 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you. 1631 01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:47,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now, wala pa po, Madam Speaker, 1632 01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:48,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Distinguished Colleague, 1633 01:51:48,540 --> 01:51:48,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang 1634 01:51:48,740 --> 01:51:53,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: inaayos na lang po ng ating 1635 01:51:53,140 --> 01:51:54,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bureau of Corrections is 1636 01:51:54,380 --> 01:51:56,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung pwede pong mag-qualify 1637 01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:57,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: for medical parole. 1638 01:51:58,600 --> 01:51:59,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yun po yung sinusubukan nila. 1639 01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:04,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: At least, hindi na po sila mag-suffer 1640 01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:05,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pa po doon sa loob po ng ating 1641 01:52:05,380 --> 01:52:08,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga Bureau of 1642 01:52:08,020 --> 01:52:09,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Corrections facilities. 1643 01:52:10,220 --> 01:52:11,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Lalo na po at may dinadaying 1644 01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:13,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na po rin pong sakit yung ating 1645 01:52:13,140 --> 01:52:15,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: PDL. Madam Speaker, 1646 01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:16,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Distinguished Colleague. 1647 01:52:16,820 --> 01:52:17,620 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, 1648 01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:19,740 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Distinguished Colleague, salamat po. We'll go to 1649 01:52:19,740 --> 01:52:21,540 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: that point about medical parole 1650 01:52:21,540 --> 01:52:23,800 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: in a very short while. I'll just go back to the 1651 01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:25,780 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: issue of the importance 1652 01:52:25,780 --> 01:52:27,800 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of an interagency approach 1653 01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:29,600 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: on this matter as this is a 1654 01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,880 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: concern of health. At nagulat po ako 1655 01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:33,320 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na wala pa pa lang 1656 01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:35,600 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: interagency efforts convergence 1657 01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:37,820 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: towards this issue to find 1658 01:52:37,820 --> 01:52:39,960 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: a solution kay task force man lamang. 1659 01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:42,020 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At sana po sa susunod na budget hearing, 1660 01:52:42,500 --> 01:52:44,220 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: this is, consider this 1661 01:52:44,220 --> 01:52:46,100 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: as a proposal, a suggestion 1662 01:52:46,100 --> 01:52:48,200 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: to the agency. Out of the 1663 01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: total PDL population in 1664 01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:51,680 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Bucor, ilan po ang 1665 01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:53,780 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: naitalang sick, elderly, or 1666 01:52:53,780 --> 01:52:55,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: terminally ill PDLs 1667 01:52:55,980 --> 01:52:58,020 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na nangangailangan ng constant hospital 1668 01:52:58,020 --> 01:52:59,580 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: care? Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 1669 01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:00,260 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Distinguished Sponsor. 1670 01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:09,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 1671 01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Distinguished Colleague, more or less mga 1672 01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:13,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 150 po na 1673 01:53:13,820 --> 01:53:15,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: PDLs yung pinag-aaralan po nilang 1674 01:53:15,660 --> 01:53:17,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mabigyan ng medical parole. 1675 01:53:18,620 --> 01:53:19,820 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So, 150? 1676 01:53:21,820 --> 01:53:22,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, po. 1677 01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:25,720 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 150 are either 1678 01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,120 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sick, elderly, or terminally 1679 01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:29,320 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ill PDLs. 1680 01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:33,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam 1681 01:53:33,700 --> 01:53:35,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 1682 01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:37,820 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, 1683 01:53:37,940 --> 01:53:38,940 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Distinguished Sponsor. 1684 01:53:39,580 --> 01:53:41,640 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nungulit ko lang po yung earlier question about 1685 01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:43,560 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: budget. Para lang po ma-put 1686 01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:45,520 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: on record, sapat ba 1687 01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:47,860 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang budget ng DOJ para sa mga hospital 1688 01:53:47,860 --> 01:53:49,640 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at infirmaries para hindi 1689 01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:51,560 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: nakailanganin ang frequent referrals 1690 01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:53,000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa external hospitals? 1691 01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:55,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi po, Madam Speaker, 1692 01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:57,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Distinguished Colleague. 1693 01:53:57,760 --> 01:53:58,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kasi, 1694 01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:01,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: we are working 1695 01:54:01,620 --> 01:54:03,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with a limited budget 1696 01:54:03,480 --> 01:54:04,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa 1697 01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:09,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang ginagawa na lang po 1698 01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:10,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng ating mga 1699 01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: bukor, lalo na po 1700 01:54:13,140 --> 01:54:15,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na ipagamot na lang po sila sa mga 1701 01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:16,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: LGU hospitals na 1702 01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: willing pong tumulong po sa kanila 1703 01:54:19,140 --> 01:54:21,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po sa kanilang pag-aalaga 1704 01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:23,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa ating mga PDLs. So, as of 1705 01:54:23,440 --> 01:54:25,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: now po, yung budget po ng ating 1706 01:54:25,020 --> 01:54:28,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: DOJ, hindi po 1707 01:54:28,020 --> 01:54:29,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sapat para po matugon 1708 01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:31,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na lalo na po yung pang-medical 1709 01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:33,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na pang-ailangan po ng ating mga PDL. 1710 01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:35,380 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Maraming salamat 1711 01:54:35,380 --> 01:54:36,580 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: for putting it on record, 1712 01:54:37,420 --> 01:54:39,180 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: inoong sponsor, 1713 01:54:39,420 --> 01:54:41,260 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker. Sa budget 1714 01:54:41,260 --> 01:54:43,420 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: deliberation last year sa 2026 1715 01:54:43,420 --> 01:54:45,320 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: GAA, Bucor and the 1716 01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:47,580 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: DOJ have pushed to expedite 1717 01:54:47,580 --> 01:54:49,660 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: executive clemency and parole processes 1718 01:54:49,660 --> 01:54:51,380 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: for sick 1719 01:54:51,380 --> 01:54:53,640 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: and elderly PDLs. Ano na po 1720 01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:55,780 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang protocol ng DOJ at Bucor 1721 01:54:55,780 --> 01:54:57,440 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: kapag may PDL na may 1722 01:54:57,440 --> 01:54:59,000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: medically compelling condition? 1723 01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:01,280 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Habang nagaantay pa sila ng 1724 01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,280 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: desisyon sa kanilang pardon, parol, 1725 01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:05,280 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: o humanitarian release, ginoong 1726 01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:07,280 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sponsor, Madam Speaker. 1727 01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:59,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Madam Speaker, 1728 01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:06,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now, they are trying to get an executive order to finalize the medical parole. 1729 01:56:07,380 --> 01:56:15,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero during that time na hinihintay po nila kasi may mga natatagalan pa pong mga pumirma doon sa ating poong EO, 1730 01:56:16,620 --> 01:56:22,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nag-establish po sila nung kanlungan ni Lolo na facility doon sa Bucor, 1731 01:56:22,620 --> 01:56:27,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung saan doon po nilalagay po ng lahat ng may sakit para po mas mabantayan po nila. 1732 01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:37,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now, ang ginagawa na lang po nila to treat their PDLs, kung ano po yung within the resources po ng Bucor. 1733 01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:39,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 1734 01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:45,240 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Maraming salamat. Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, nabanggit nyo po hinihintay natin yung EO. 1735 01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:50,140 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kailan po ba nagsimula yung development process itong EO na ito? Nasaan punto na tayo? 1736 01:56:50,140 --> 01:56:52,600 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sino pa ang hindi pumipirma? Ano pa ang kailangan? 1737 01:56:52,620 --> 01:56:56,480 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Para finally ay maging ganap na polisiyan na ito. 1738 01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:18,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 1739 01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:22,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now, as reported by our Bureau of Correction, 1740 01:57:22,620 --> 01:57:32,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Director, isa na lang po yung hinihintay na firma for the EO to take effect dito po yung sa Department of Health 1741 01:57:32,740 --> 01:57:39,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kasi kailangan po masertify nila na totoong may sakit yung isang individual, lalo na po yung ating PDL 1742 01:57:39,180 --> 01:57:45,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po makapasok doon sa Executive Climacy na inaayos po ng ating Bureau of Correction. 1743 01:57:45,780 --> 01:57:48,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 1744 01:57:48,220 --> 01:57:50,780 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, we understand. 1745 01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:52,420 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Bago po ang leadership ngayon. 1746 01:57:52,620 --> 01:57:56,600 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Department of Health at mahalaga na ipaalala sa kanila itong mga urgent matters na ito. 1747 01:57:56,680 --> 01:58:02,220 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Pero just for the record, ganoon na po tayo katagal naghihintay sa firma ng Department of Health on this EO? 1748 01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:08,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Last year pa po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 1749 01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:17,340 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nakalulungkot, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, na last year pa pala dapat meron na tayong EO 1750 01:58:17,340 --> 01:58:22,460 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: para matulungan ang mga kababayan natin ng mga PDL sa nangangailangan. 1751 01:58:22,620 --> 01:58:31,800 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nang window of service na ito, ng clemency, ng parol para sa kanilang health reasons 1752 01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:33,620 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: or sa pagiging matanda na masyado. 1753 01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:40,620 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Pero sa dulo, yung pa palang Department of Health na dapat nangangalaga sa kalusugan ng ating mga kababayan 1754 01:58:41,180 --> 01:58:45,020 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang walang ginagawa, ang dinededma ito. 1755 01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:51,380 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ano daw po ang dahilan na binigay ng DOH at dinededma nila ang napakahalagang EO na ito, Madam Speaker? 1756 01:58:51,380 --> 01:58:52,380 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 1757 01:58:52,620 --> 01:59:05,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, we are not privy doon sa kung bakit po natatagalan on the part of the DOH. 1758 01:59:06,780 --> 01:59:11,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang nagagawa na lang po ng ating Bureau of Corrections is mag-follow up po ng mag-follow up. 1759 01:59:12,300 --> 01:59:14,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 1760 01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:21,920 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker, thank you very much for the very candid response of the agency on the matter. 1761 01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:22,600 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Pero hindi. 1762 01:59:22,620 --> 01:59:30,040 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Hindi po kasi tama na pinaghihintayin natin ng hindi lamang buwan kundi taon na yung ganitong napakahalagang polisiya. 1763 01:59:30,780 --> 01:59:41,360 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Still on this matter, paano po natin tinitiyak na ang ating mga mahihirap at indigent PDLs ay nabibigyan din ng pantay at mabilis na access sa ganitong medical interventions? 1764 01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:47,140 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sigurado po ba tayo na hindi lang ito para sa mga may kakayahang kumuha ng private doctors? 1765 02:00:00,740 --> 02:00:03,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 1766 02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang ginagawa po ng ating Bureau of Corrections, 1767 02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:12,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: they are coordinating with hospitals that are willing to take in 1768 02:00:12,660 --> 02:00:14,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung ating mga PDL na nangangailangan. 1769 02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:21,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: For example, meron po silang coordination with East Avenue Medical Center. 1770 02:00:22,340 --> 02:00:25,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Doon po nila dinadala, lalaan po sila ng pondo 1771 02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:28,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po madala po yung ating mga PDL na nangangailangan ng medical care 1772 02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa mga hospital katulad po ng East Avenue Medical Center. 1773 02:00:32,940 --> 02:00:36,840 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Maliban po sa East Avenue Medical Center, saan pa po yung iba pang mga facilities? 1774 02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:38,160 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker. 1775 02:00:47,060 --> 02:00:50,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Lahat po ng facilities naman daw po ay dinadalahan po nila. 1776 02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:55,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May mga LGU hospitals naman po silang kamowa, 1777 02:00:55,540 --> 02:00:57,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: saan rin po nila dinadala. 1778 02:00:57,360 --> 02:01:06,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May mga times lang po siguro na dahil puno rin po siguro yung ating hospital, 1779 02:01:06,340 --> 02:01:09,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hindi po ma-accommodate, pero we know work out po ng ating Bureau of Corrections 1780 02:01:09,980 --> 02:01:14,340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na madala po yung ating mga PDL sa tamang pangangalaga rin po 1781 02:01:14,340 --> 02:01:16,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng ating mga medical professionals. 1782 02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:18,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 1783 02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:21,180 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 1784 02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:24,700 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: nakatutok ngayon ng publiko sa usapin ng medical releases 1785 02:01:24,700 --> 02:01:26,800 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: dahil ginagamit ito ng ilang 1786 02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:30,320 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: high-profile officials na may kasong plunder, 1787 02:01:31,140 --> 02:01:34,840 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: paano po tindiyak ng DOJ na hindi maaabuso ang prosesong ito? 1788 02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:38,360 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ano po ang mga safeguards o stringent monitoring mechanisms 1789 02:01:38,900 --> 02:01:41,800 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na pwede ipatupad ng DOJ at Bucor tungkol dito? 1790 02:01:42,100 --> 02:01:44,180 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 1791 02:02:17,130 --> 02:02:22,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 1792 02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:27,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: as of now, yung mga kilalang individual po kasi na tangkot or accused, 1793 02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:30,340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ay nasa pangangalaga po ng BJMP. 1794 02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:37,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero ang proseso daw po, as per sa ating DOJ, 1795 02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:42,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: meron pong sariling medical examiner na nagkakondak para po sa BJMP 1796 02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:50,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po masigurado or macertify na ito po yung estado or health status 1797 02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:56,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng ating pong accused na sangkot sa ating pong investigation. 1798 02:02:57,360 --> 02:03:01,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And complaints, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 1799 02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:03,000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 1800 02:03:03,180 --> 02:03:06,080 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: hindi po yung mga recently na nakasuhan yung nire-refer ko. 1801 02:03:06,180 --> 02:03:09,520 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: May mga instances po in the past na nangyari ito. 1802 02:03:10,100 --> 02:03:12,580 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: But let me just close by saying, 1803 02:03:13,100 --> 02:03:17,280 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na usapin ang medical recognizance ay hindi dapat nakabatay sa pangalan, 1804 02:03:17,460 --> 02:03:20,300 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: posisyon o impluensya ng isang PDL. 1805 02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:23,880 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ang pamantayan ay dapat iisa lang para sa lahat. 1806 02:03:24,220 --> 02:03:26,820 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Una, ang aktual na medical condition, 1807 02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:29,600 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: pangalaba, ang umiiral na batas. 1808 02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:34,960 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Pangatlo, ang pangangailangang pangalagaan ang karapatang pantao at due process. 1809 02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:37,600 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kaya hinihiling po natin, Madam Speaker, 1810 02:03:38,500 --> 02:03:42,120 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa Department of Justice, natiyaking ang anumang mekanismo 1811 02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:47,060 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: para sa medical recognizance, hospital confinement, or medical condition 1812 02:03:47,060 --> 02:03:51,760 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ay malinaw, transparent, at pare-parehong pamantayan. 1813 02:03:52,360 --> 02:03:57,080 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Dapat walang special treatment, dapat walang VIP lane. 1814 02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:00,160 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 1815 02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:02,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Distinguished Colleague, Madam Speaker. 1816 02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:07,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They will comply with po sa ating mga requests rin po, Distinguished Colleague. 1817 02:04:08,140 --> 02:04:08,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you po. 1818 02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:09,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Salamat po. 1819 02:04:09,780 --> 02:04:10,440 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 1820 02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:15,520 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Madam Speaker, move to suspended session for a few minutes. 1821 02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:16,480 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended. 1822 02:04:57,360 --> 02:05:06,480 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. 1823 02:05:07,300 --> 02:05:08,300 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 1824 02:05:09,740 --> 02:05:14,280 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Edgar R. Erice 1825 02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:18,780 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: from the 2nd District of Caloocan City to interpellate the said measure. 1826 02:05:19,100 --> 02:05:22,420 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Edgar Erice is hereby recognized for his interpellation. 1827 02:05:23,420 --> 02:05:25,420 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 1828 02:05:25,420 --> 02:05:27,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you, Majority Leader. 1829 02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:30,120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And to our Distinguished Sponsor, good morning. 1830 02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:30,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Good morning. 1831 02:05:31,380 --> 02:05:33,660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I have a very few questions. 1832 02:05:34,900 --> 02:05:38,660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: But this is all about the Bureau of Immigration. 1833 02:05:41,600 --> 02:05:46,740 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And gusto ko lang po itanong yung tungkol dito sa biometric gates natin. 1834 02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:53,480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: May data po ako dito na for the last 4 years, 1835 02:05:55,300 --> 02:05:57,120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kulang-kulang 4 billion na po. 1836 02:05:57,120 --> 02:06:06,200 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yung nagagagastos ng pamahalaan para sa purchase ng mga e-gates natin, 1837 02:06:06,360 --> 02:06:07,700 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: including the cameras. 1838 02:06:09,900 --> 02:06:12,600 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And the Bureau of Immigration, confirm? 1839 02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:36,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, for the e-gates project po, yung total na kalaan pong pondo, 1840 02:06:36,740 --> 02:06:40,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: for Phase 1, 1.5 billion. 1841 02:06:41,140 --> 02:06:42,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Approximately, 1.5 billion. 1842 02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:44,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 1.3 po ang Phase 2. 1843 02:06:45,620 --> 02:06:51,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And 536 million po ang Phase 3. 1844 02:06:52,120 --> 02:06:53,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: More or less, mga... 1845 02:06:57,120 --> 02:07:02,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: More than 2 billion na po yung nagagagastos po para po sa... 1846 02:07:02,940 --> 02:07:07,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang nagagagastos pa lang po talaga ay 1.528. 1847 02:07:09,140 --> 02:07:11,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 869.957 billion po. 1848 02:07:12,700 --> 02:07:14,120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: There was a... 1849 02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:19,780 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: How much is the total? 1850 02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:24,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung Phase 1 pa lang po yung nagagastos po. 1851 02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:26,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 1852 02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:34,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 1,528,869,957. 1853 02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:39,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 1,528,869,957. 1854 02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:45,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: This includes e-gates, CCTV, and facial recognition monitoring? 1855 02:07:46,100 --> 02:07:46,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po. 1856 02:07:46,900 --> 02:07:47,460 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kasama lang po lahat to? 1857 02:07:48,040 --> 02:07:49,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, Madam Speaker. 1858 02:07:49,740 --> 02:07:51,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ito po yung Phase 1. 1859 02:07:52,980 --> 02:07:54,340 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ilang e-gates po ba ito? 1860 02:07:54,940 --> 02:07:56,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung Phase 1 po ay total of... 1861 02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:59,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 47 e-gates po. 1862 02:08:00,100 --> 02:08:04,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Distributed in Clark International Airport, 1863 02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:07,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mactan Cebu International Airport, 1864 02:08:07,700 --> 02:08:09,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Davao International Airport, 1865 02:08:09,300 --> 02:08:11,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and Bohol Panglao International Airport. 1866 02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:14,560 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, 47 na po. 1867 02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:16,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 47 po yung para sa... 1868 02:08:16,660 --> 02:08:19,660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And the cost of the 47 e-gates is how much? 1869 02:08:20,700 --> 02:08:21,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ito pong... 1870 02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:27,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ito pong 1,500,000,000. 1871 02:08:27,120 --> 02:08:30,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 128,869,957. 1872 02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:31,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: This is Phase 1. 1873 02:08:31,700 --> 02:08:32,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, Phase 1. 1874 02:08:32,640 --> 02:08:33,740 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yung Phase 2 po, magkano po? 1875 02:08:33,740 --> 02:08:38,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Phase 2 po ay 1.347,057 billion. 1876 02:08:40,540 --> 02:08:41,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So... 1877 02:08:41,100 --> 02:08:43,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 1,347,057,000. 1878 02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:45,820 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And how many e-gates po ito? 1879 02:08:57,120 --> 02:09:18,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: We're just getting the figure po, 1880 02:09:18,080 --> 02:09:19,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: this English colleague. 1881 02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:21,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Medyo nagbago daw po kasi yung mga presyo. 1882 02:09:22,640 --> 02:09:23,660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pero nag-bid na po ito? 1883 02:09:23,660 --> 02:09:24,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi pa po. 1884 02:09:25,460 --> 02:09:26,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They are... 1885 02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:29,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Undergoing procurement process pa lang po. 1886 02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:30,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: September 14 lang po yung 1887 02:09:30,840 --> 02:09:33,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: advertisement 1888 02:09:33,100 --> 02:09:36,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: by the speaker and... 1889 02:09:36,820 --> 02:09:38,840 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, hindi pa natin alam kung ilang units? 1890 02:09:41,660 --> 02:09:44,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi pa daw po kompleto yung technical specification. 1891 02:09:46,220 --> 02:09:48,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bali, ang nandito pa lang po ay mga tentative dates 1892 02:09:48,920 --> 02:09:51,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: wherein kung kailan nila i-undertake yung 1893 02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:54,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: advertisement, bid conference, 1894 02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:55,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and yung mga bid submitting. 1895 02:09:55,700 --> 02:09:56,980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And these particular units, 1896 02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:59,640 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: they are for what airports? 1897 02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:11,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Cebu and Tawi-Tawi po. 1898 02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:14,500 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And the Phase 3? 1899 02:10:15,160 --> 02:10:16,160 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: How about the Phase 3 po? 1900 02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:18,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: How much is the Phase 3? 1901 02:10:18,440 --> 02:10:21,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Phase 3 po ay 536,072,000. 1902 02:10:21,820 --> 02:10:26,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And undergoing technical specifications pa rin po yung atin pong... 1903 02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:28,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Phase 3. 1904 02:10:28,600 --> 02:10:30,700 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And this is for what airports? 1905 02:10:43,500 --> 02:10:45,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now po, wala pa po. 1906 02:10:45,180 --> 02:10:49,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: To be determined pa po after yung ating pong Phase 2. 1907 02:10:50,340 --> 02:10:52,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Depende po sa assessment po ng ating Bureau of Immigration 1908 02:10:52,780 --> 02:10:56,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung saan pa po kailangan yung E-Gates project po. 1909 02:10:57,120 --> 02:10:58,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: At kung saan pa po kailangan yung E-Gates project po. 1910 02:10:58,780 --> 02:11:03,600 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Why do you procure E-Gates kung wala pang definite mga pupuntahan nito? 1911 02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:10,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Well, yung Phase 1 po okay naman po. 1912 02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:11,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Okay na. 1913 02:11:13,340 --> 02:11:16,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung details lang po ng Phase 2 kung saan po ilalagay. 1914 02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:19,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kinukuha lang po namin kung yung number 1915 02:11:19,660 --> 02:11:22,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and kung saan po yung breakdown po nung ating E-Gates. 1916 02:11:22,820 --> 02:11:26,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung Phase 3 po, totally wala pa po kasi undergoing technical specifications. 1917 02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:33,580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I'm sure there are requests for installations or airports. 1918 02:11:34,540 --> 02:11:35,120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Before you... 1919 02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:41,320 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Di ba po sa budget process magpo-propose ang department 1920 02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:47,720 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng gastusin for particular budgetary expense? 1921 02:11:48,460 --> 02:11:54,300 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit nauuna yung pondo kaysa dun sa requirements? 1922 02:11:57,120 --> 02:12:04,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, may mga instances po na kailangan po ng ating Bureau of Immigration 1923 02:12:04,780 --> 02:12:07,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na i-reconfigure yung technical specifications 1924 02:12:07,700 --> 02:12:11,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kasi tumataas po yung presyo po ng ating mga equipment. 1925 02:12:12,660 --> 02:12:15,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, medyo natatagalan po talaga. 1926 02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:22,220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Can you just submit the details of these procurements? 1927 02:12:22,220 --> 02:12:23,020 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes, Madam Speaker. 1928 02:12:23,020 --> 02:12:24,200 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kasi hindi po ako makapaniwala. 1929 02:12:25,000 --> 02:12:27,040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kasi po bago talaga magpapabida. 1930 02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:28,920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Dapat alam mo na kung saan pupunta yung ano eh. 1931 02:12:29,380 --> 02:12:32,820 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bago kong magpapondo, dapat alam mo na kung saan pupunta yung pera. 1932 02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:39,520 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, can you just submit a distinguished chair 1933 02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:48,240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the documents at least before Friday, the end of our plenary debate. 1934 02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:49,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Okay. 1935 02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:52,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, this thing is rolling, Madam Speaker. 1936 02:12:52,580 --> 02:12:54,940 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yung pong E-Gates, 1937 02:12:57,120 --> 02:12:58,960 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ninoy-Akina International Airport. 1938 02:12:59,120 --> 02:13:01,620 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ganon po karami ito at sino po ang nag-provide niyo? 1939 02:13:21,180 --> 02:13:27,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mga 23 na E-Gates po yung pinrovide ng ating new na EIA. 1940 02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:32,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: NNIC po. 1941 02:13:34,500 --> 02:13:36,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: New na EIA International Corporation. 1942 02:13:40,900 --> 02:13:42,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 23 lamang po? 1943 02:13:43,060 --> 02:13:44,940 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: For the whole Terminal 1 and 3? 1944 02:13:45,980 --> 02:13:46,500 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes po. 1945 02:13:47,860 --> 02:13:48,700 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Parang mas marami eh. 1946 02:13:51,180 --> 02:13:55,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They will just provide also a breakdown, Madam Speaker. 1947 02:13:56,240 --> 02:13:57,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They are just going to provide a breakdown. 1948 02:13:57,120 --> 02:13:59,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: confirming about the total number of 1949 02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:01,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: e-gates for both 1950 02:14:01,040 --> 02:14:03,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Terminal 1 and Terminal 3 po. 1951 02:14:03,660 --> 02:14:06,320 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I have a figure here. 1952 02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:07,980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: There are 78 e-gates 1953 02:14:07,980 --> 02:14:09,220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: in Terminal 1 and 3. 1954 02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:25,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: There are 78 biometric 1955 02:14:25,100 --> 02:14:26,700 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: immigration e-gates 1956 02:14:26,700 --> 02:14:28,920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at Ninoy Aquino 1957 02:14:28,920 --> 02:14:30,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: International Airport 1958 02:14:30,280 --> 02:14:31,640 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: T1 and 3. 1959 02:14:32,500 --> 02:14:33,940 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: It is funded by the 1960 02:14:33,940 --> 02:14:34,920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: concessionaire 1961 02:14:34,920 --> 02:14:40,340 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: and the same technology, 1962 02:14:40,500 --> 02:14:41,600 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Amadeus Technology, 1963 02:14:41,740 --> 02:14:44,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the same technology provider 1964 02:14:44,360 --> 02:14:46,740 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for immigration 1965 02:14:46,740 --> 02:14:48,640 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: gates, the Bureau of Immigration 1966 02:14:48,640 --> 02:14:49,720 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: provided gates. 1967 02:14:55,520 --> 02:14:56,680 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 78 po. 1968 02:14:56,700 --> 02:14:58,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano talagang tama? 1969 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: still confirming, Madam Speaker, 1970 02:15:02,220 --> 02:15:04,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: if we can give you a 1971 02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:04,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: breakdown? 1972 02:15:12,280 --> 02:15:13,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They're still confirming about the 1973 02:15:13,980 --> 02:15:15,940 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: breakdown. Kasi po, kaya ako po tinatanong, alam nyo, 1974 02:15:16,740 --> 02:15:19,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for 47 1975 02:15:19,440 --> 02:15:21,920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: gates, 1976 02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:23,700 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung presyo nyo, 1977 02:15:23,820 --> 02:15:24,680 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: maabot na ng 3. 1978 02:15:26,300 --> 02:15:28,020 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Samantalang yung sa San 1979 02:15:28,020 --> 02:15:30,220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Miguel, yung concessionaire 1980 02:15:30,220 --> 02:15:32,080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: natin, yung 78 e-gates, 1981 02:15:32,080 --> 02:15:33,060 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mas marami, 1982 02:15:34,520 --> 02:15:36,380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: naka-incorporate na dun sa kanilang 1983 02:15:36,380 --> 02:15:37,840 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mismo, sa kanilang 1984 02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:39,160 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: modernization plan, 1985 02:15:39,840 --> 02:15:41,780 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na 6.8 billion. The whole 1986 02:15:41,780 --> 02:15:44,420 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: airport modernization 1987 02:15:44,420 --> 02:15:45,980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for Terminal 1 and 3, 1988 02:15:46,380 --> 02:15:47,840 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: only 6.8 billion. 1989 02:15:48,560 --> 02:15:50,340 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pero kayo, for 47 1990 02:15:50,340 --> 02:15:51,880 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mga ano, 1 point 1991 02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:53,300 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: something billion na, 1992 02:15:53,940 --> 02:15:56,080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: almost 3 billion. Bakit kaya gano'n? 1993 02:15:56,440 --> 02:15:57,200 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Parang masyadong 1994 02:15:57,200 --> 02:15:59,800 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Do you have 1995 02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:01,480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: a, ano, an apple 1996 02:16:01,480 --> 02:16:03,860 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: to apple comparison between the 1997 02:16:03,860 --> 02:16:05,560 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: e-gates of, 1998 02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:07,800 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: provided by the concessionaire 1999 02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:09,800 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: and the e-gates procured by the 2000 02:16:10,960 --> 02:16:13,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: immigration department? 2001 02:16:15,440 --> 02:16:16,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, 2002 02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:19,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hindi po siya apple to apple comparison. 2003 02:16:20,440 --> 02:16:21,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They are not aware of 2004 02:16:21,900 --> 02:16:23,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po ano po yung presyo 2005 02:16:23,180 --> 02:16:25,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na nakuha po na ato 2006 02:16:25,680 --> 02:16:26,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng NNIC. 2007 02:16:27,200 --> 02:16:29,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung pag-provide po ng e-gates. 2008 02:16:30,300 --> 02:16:30,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero ang, 2009 02:16:31,840 --> 02:16:32,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa parte po ng ating po, 2010 02:16:32,860 --> 02:16:33,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bureau of Immigration, 2011 02:16:34,560 --> 02:16:35,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: naglabas lang po sila mga 2012 02:16:35,580 --> 02:16:38,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: technical specifications 2013 02:16:38,140 --> 02:16:41,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: regarding this matter 2014 02:16:41,620 --> 02:16:43,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and yung market scoping po, 2015 02:16:43,760 --> 02:16:44,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ito po yung presyo na 2016 02:16:44,900 --> 02:16:46,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: lumabas dun sa kanilang 2017 02:16:46,580 --> 02:16:48,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pag-determine po ng mga presyo. 2018 02:16:49,440 --> 02:16:51,520 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I have a computation here. 2019 02:16:52,040 --> 02:16:52,980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito naman ho, 2020 02:16:52,980 --> 02:16:54,720 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: hindi natin, hindi ako sure, pero 2021 02:16:54,720 --> 02:16:56,680 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kinumpute ko lang on the basis of ano, 2022 02:16:57,200 --> 02:16:59,740 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: tumalabas ko ba 32 million per e-gate 2023 02:16:59,740 --> 02:17:01,740 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang gastos ng immigration? 2024 02:17:07,940 --> 02:17:08,700 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: More or less, 2025 02:17:09,560 --> 02:17:10,520 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kahit po yung, ano lang, 2026 02:17:11,240 --> 02:17:13,880 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ballpark figure per e-gate. 2027 02:17:23,100 --> 02:17:23,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 2028 02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:25,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: this English colleague hindi pa po makonfirm 2029 02:17:25,680 --> 02:17:27,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung ano po yung total breakdown. 2030 02:17:27,040 --> 02:17:27,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Per e-gate, 2031 02:17:27,940 --> 02:17:31,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: we will provide a copy of the breakdown 2032 02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:32,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: per cost per... 2033 02:17:32,300 --> 02:17:34,040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And I will request the 2034 02:17:35,160 --> 02:17:37,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: NAIA 2035 02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:39,940 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: concessionaire to 2036 02:17:39,940 --> 02:17:43,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: give us a, you know, 2037 02:17:43,580 --> 02:17:44,240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: to give us 2038 02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:47,140 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the cost of their e-gates. 2039 02:17:47,320 --> 02:17:48,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Para makumpira natin, 2040 02:17:48,320 --> 02:17:49,540 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: dapat makatipid ng gobyerno. 2041 02:17:49,660 --> 02:17:50,820 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam niyo naman, kulang na kulang 2042 02:17:50,820 --> 02:17:52,660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng talapin ng bayan. 2043 02:17:54,620 --> 02:17:55,400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Especially na, 2044 02:17:55,400 --> 02:17:56,680 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: hindi pa naman po nabibid yung, 2045 02:17:57,040 --> 02:17:58,500 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: phase 2 and phase 3. 2046 02:17:59,120 --> 02:17:59,640 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, 2047 02:18:00,560 --> 02:18:02,000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: can I expect it before Friday? 2048 02:18:03,060 --> 02:18:03,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po. 2049 02:18:04,580 --> 02:18:06,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They will comply po, Madam Speaker. 2050 02:18:07,020 --> 02:18:07,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: This English colleague. 2051 02:18:07,960 --> 02:18:09,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And for the total nga po, 2052 02:18:09,420 --> 02:18:11,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 78 na e-gates po yung 2053 02:18:11,960 --> 02:18:13,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pin-provide po ng ating pong NNIC. 2054 02:18:16,360 --> 02:18:18,520 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Next issue, 2055 02:18:18,940 --> 02:18:20,760 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: distinguished colleague, 2056 02:18:20,920 --> 02:18:21,500 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: is the 2057 02:18:21,500 --> 02:18:24,380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the security 2058 02:18:24,380 --> 02:18:25,780 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: reports 2059 02:18:25,780 --> 02:18:27,020 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ano po, 2060 02:18:27,040 --> 02:18:28,580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung ating 2061 02:18:28,580 --> 02:18:30,520 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: PPP? 2062 02:18:32,760 --> 02:18:33,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ah, yes po. 2063 02:18:33,320 --> 02:18:34,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung, Madam Speaker, 2064 02:18:35,220 --> 02:18:38,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the unsolicited proposal po ba? 2065 02:18:38,020 --> 02:18:39,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Unsolicited proposal. 2066 02:18:39,220 --> 02:18:40,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Coming from secure report. 2067 02:18:41,740 --> 02:18:43,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pwede po bang ma-update 2068 02:18:43,280 --> 02:18:45,340 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ano na yung status sa ngayon? 2069 02:18:52,480 --> 02:18:54,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ongoing contract review pa rin po 2070 02:18:54,260 --> 02:18:56,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with the PPP center. 2071 02:18:56,060 --> 02:18:56,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The, 2072 02:18:56,160 --> 02:18:56,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the, 2073 02:18:56,880 --> 02:18:58,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the DOF and the 2074 02:18:58,220 --> 02:19:00,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Office of the Solicitor General po. 2075 02:19:00,460 --> 02:19:00,800 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Okay. 2076 02:19:01,220 --> 02:19:01,640 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ah, 2077 02:19:02,520 --> 02:19:03,860 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: nihingi ko rin po yung kopya 2078 02:19:03,860 --> 02:19:05,340 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: nung pinangako sa akin 2079 02:19:05,340 --> 02:19:05,840 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng mga 2080 02:19:05,840 --> 02:19:07,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: terms of reference 2081 02:19:07,100 --> 02:19:08,680 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: including the bid documents, 2082 02:19:09,660 --> 02:19:11,420 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the Swiss Challenge documents. 2083 02:19:11,920 --> 02:19:12,140 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ah, 2084 02:19:12,240 --> 02:19:12,860 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kung pwede rin po 2085 02:19:12,860 --> 02:19:14,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: maibigay sa akin before Friday. 2086 02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:17,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And I have here some questionnaire. 2087 02:19:18,860 --> 02:19:19,660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At, ah, 2088 02:19:19,980 --> 02:19:21,660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: not to belabor the point, 2089 02:19:21,780 --> 02:19:23,020 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I'll just give to you 2090 02:19:23,020 --> 02:19:24,040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: these questionnaires. 2091 02:19:24,600 --> 02:19:25,380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At kung po pwede po 2092 02:19:25,380 --> 02:19:26,120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: masagot sa akin 2093 02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:26,580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ito, 2094 02:19:26,880 --> 02:19:27,420 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ah, 2095 02:19:27,420 --> 02:19:28,060 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: before Friday. 2096 02:19:28,980 --> 02:19:29,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, 2097 02:19:29,560 --> 02:19:30,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 2098 02:19:30,440 --> 02:19:30,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ah, 2099 02:19:30,940 --> 02:19:31,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the Bureau of Immigration 2100 02:19:31,880 --> 02:19:32,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: will comply with 2101 02:19:32,800 --> 02:19:33,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: before Friday. 2102 02:19:34,400 --> 02:19:34,920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you po. 2103 02:19:35,240 --> 02:19:35,580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ah, 2104 02:19:35,720 --> 02:19:36,240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Madam Speaker, 2105 02:19:36,440 --> 02:19:36,880 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: thank you. 2106 02:19:37,820 --> 02:19:38,720 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Distinguished sponsor. 2107 02:19:38,860 --> 02:19:39,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you po, 2108 02:19:39,440 --> 02:19:39,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 2109 02:19:39,980 --> 02:19:40,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished sponsor. 2110 02:19:41,740 --> 02:19:42,460 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 2111 02:19:44,560 --> 02:19:45,300 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, 2112 02:19:45,440 --> 02:19:46,460 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: I move to suspend session 2113 02:19:46,460 --> 02:19:47,200 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: for a few minutes. 2114 02:19:47,460 --> 02:19:48,280 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended. 2115 02:21:03,520 --> 02:21:05,810 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. Majority Leader. 2116 02:21:05,810 --> 02:21:14,200 Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Renee Louise M. Co of Kabataan Party-list to interpellate the proposed budget of the Department of Justice. 2117 02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:19,250 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Renee Louise Co from Kabataan Party-list is hereby recognized for her interpellation. 2118 02:21:19,250 --> 02:21:26,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good afternoon to the distinguished sponsor and the Department of Justice. 2119 02:21:26,040 --> 02:21:37,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Will the gentleman yield to a couple of questions in relation to the budget and the policies by which the budget will be anchored on of the Department of Justice? 2120 02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:39,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2121 02:21:39,440 --> 02:21:40,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 2122 02:21:41,160 --> 02:21:48,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, tungkol po ito sa ang unang line of questioning natin, yung nasimula na natin noong budget briefing, 2123 02:21:48,700 --> 02:21:56,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung tungkol po sa pag-transfer ng mga persons deprived of liberty ng 2124 02:21:56,840 --> 02:21:58,910 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: New Bilibid Prison. 2125 02:21:58,910 --> 02:22:06,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pwede po bang matanong na ilan ang current number of PDLs sa buong Pilipinas ang nasa Bucor? 2126 02:22:07,020 --> 02:22:10,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ilan ang nababawas at nadaragdag ng mga PDLs annually? 2127 02:22:26,880 --> 02:22:44,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of July 31, 2026, the PDL population is at 52,356. 2128 02:22:45,800 --> 02:22:49,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang narirelease po kada taon ay it varies. 2129 02:22:50,260 --> 02:22:54,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So as for 2025 po, ang naririlis po ay... 2130 02:22:59,600 --> 02:23:21,750 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 10,529. For the first half nitong taong ito, 4,979 po ang na-release. Ang na-admit po for 2025, 9,948. Ang na-admit rin po for 2026, this first half ng taon, ay 4,549. 2131 02:23:24,990 --> 02:23:32,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So tama po ba? Parang halos equal or magkapantay yung pagdagdag at pagbawas ng mga PDLs sa New Bilibid Prison? 2132 02:23:32,860 --> 02:23:39,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Halos magkapantay po. Looking at from 2022 to 2026, halos parehas. 2133 02:23:39,180 --> 02:23:48,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kung bang makahingi, Madam Speaker, good sponsor ng datos na ito, kung maari ay mag-span po siya ng pano, 2134 02:23:48,180 --> 02:23:53,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: paano, ilan ang nababawas sa dagdagdag sa New Bilibid Prison in the past five years? 2135 02:23:54,820 --> 02:23:58,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Okay. Yes, Madam Speaker. We will provide the data. 2136 02:23:59,620 --> 02:24:04,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat po. Yung unang mga tanong po natin kasi sa budget briefing ay, 2137 02:24:04,360 --> 02:24:18,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yun nga po, paano yung pinaplano na pagkaroon ng pag-transfer ng mga PDLs given na may mga ibang planong gustong gawin? 2138 02:24:18,180 --> 02:24:19,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Dito sa New Bilibid Prison. 2139 02:24:20,180 --> 02:24:24,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But following up on my line of inquiry during the committee-level deliberations, 2140 02:24:24,980 --> 02:24:30,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pwede po bang matanong if the BUCOR has a decongestion strategy or a master plan 2141 02:24:30,420 --> 02:24:37,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: given yung mass transfer of PDLs from the New Bilibid Prison to the penal colonies? 2142 02:24:41,160 --> 02:24:45,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: There is a master plan up to 2028. 2143 02:24:46,020 --> 02:24:48,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So inaasahan po natin some 53. 2144 02:24:48,180 --> 02:24:57,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 6,000 ay more or less makakompleto na yung pag-transfer by two years from now? 2145 02:24:58,100 --> 02:24:59,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, because... 2146 02:25:00,540 --> 02:25:12,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, because magkaklose na nga po yung New Bilibid Prison, Madam Speaker, this is surely... 2147 02:25:12,500 --> 02:25:16,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maaaring rin po bang ma-furnish ang representation na ito ng master plan? 2148 02:25:18,180 --> 02:25:25,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa pinagbabatayan, timeline, at kung ano man, para po maisagawa yung mass transfer na ito? 2149 02:25:25,560 --> 02:25:27,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker, we will comply po. 2150 02:25:29,020 --> 02:25:35,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May I ask kung gaano po kadalas na si-check ng Department of Justice or yung BUCOR, 2151 02:25:35,780 --> 02:25:44,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung pagsunod doon sa master plan na nakalaan para po sa mass transfer? 2152 02:25:48,180 --> 02:26:02,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, they're guided by the master plan. 2153 02:26:03,940 --> 02:26:11,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yun po po yung goal po nila from 30,000 sa NBP, nabababa po nila ng 20,000. 2154 02:26:11,640 --> 02:26:13,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They are looking at... 2155 02:26:13,640 --> 02:26:15,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Maaaring... 2156 02:26:16,300 --> 02:26:17,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung momentum po for... 2157 02:26:18,180 --> 02:26:29,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And pursuing the decongestion rate na ideal ay patuloy na hindi implementan naman po ng ating Bureau of Corrections. 2158 02:26:29,600 --> 02:26:33,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung master plan po yung naging guide nila sa pag-transfer, 2159 02:26:33,480 --> 02:26:43,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung saan po dadalhin yung ating PDL at yung decongestion rate po ay doon rin po naka-alitsunod. 2160 02:26:44,060 --> 02:26:46,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, this is Gish Coli. 2161 02:26:47,660 --> 02:26:48,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, 2162 02:26:48,180 --> 02:26:48,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor. 2163 02:26:49,480 --> 02:26:54,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Napansin natin na sa budget ng Department of Justice, 2164 02:26:54,980 --> 02:27:00,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron pong nakalaan na 519 million na capital outlay for BUCOR. 2165 02:27:01,500 --> 02:27:09,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Magkano po dito ay para sa construction or rehabilitation of penal colonies and correctional facilities outside of NCR? 2166 02:27:10,420 --> 02:27:11,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron po ba? 2167 02:27:12,940 --> 02:27:14,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Or nakatayo na po ba ito? 2168 02:27:14,280 --> 02:27:14,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, 2169 02:27:14,900 --> 02:27:16,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: so, 2170 02:27:18,180 --> 02:27:19,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: , 2171 02:27:19,180 --> 02:27:27,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: roughly about 474 million po yung nakalaan para sa pagpapagawa po ng ating Bureau of Correction Facility. 2172 02:27:27,800 --> 02:27:31,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Nakalaan po ito sa Nueva Ecija po. 2173 02:27:31,040 --> 02:27:38,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kasi doon po plano, ilagay po yung ating bagong Bureau of Correction Facility. 2174 02:27:38,720 --> 02:27:40,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, this is Gish Coli. 2175 02:27:40,760 --> 02:27:47,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At tama po na itatayo pa lang ito kung magtuloy-tuloy yung pag-uusap natin. 2176 02:27:48,180 --> 02:27:51,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At maigrat po ito sa Department of Justice. 2177 02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:53,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Itatayo pa lang po ito, Madam Speaker. 2178 02:27:53,900 --> 02:28:01,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kailan po yung target completion date nitong new penal colony sa Nueva Ecija? 2179 02:28:03,040 --> 02:28:09,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hopefully po next year, may tayo na po itong facility na ito, Madam Speaker, at this is Gish Coli. 2180 02:28:09,660 --> 02:28:18,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Inaasahan din po natin, gaya po ng sinabi sa committee, na maging up to standards ang lahat ng mga facilities at services. 2181 02:28:18,180 --> 02:28:24,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na itatayo dito sa bagong penal colony sa Nueva Ecija. 2182 02:28:25,040 --> 02:28:32,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero kailangan lang po natin i-check dahil po kung ang target completion, at sana hindi madelay, ay next year. 2183 02:28:32,880 --> 02:28:40,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero may target na matapos yung pag-mass transfer by 2028, 2184 02:28:40,360 --> 02:28:45,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi po sana either maantala o magkaroon ng iba't ibang arrangements. 2185 02:28:46,180 --> 02:28:48,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kung saan, habang tinatayo, 2186 02:28:48,180 --> 02:29:01,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pa yung Nueva Ecija penal colony ay baka ma-transfer sa ibang mga detention facilities ang mga dapat i-a-assign doon sa Nueva Ecija. 2187 02:29:01,340 --> 02:29:12,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maybe can I get a guarantee from the Bureau of Corrections na kung ano man po yung pupuntahang mga destinasyon ng mga PDLs, 2188 02:29:12,860 --> 02:29:17,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: gaya po ng sinabi sa committee level meeting, malapit sa pamilya. 2189 02:29:18,180 --> 02:29:30,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hindi matatransfer ka sa kung saang penal colony nang walang paalam sa kanilang mga pamilya ng mga lawyers at lahat ng mga tumutulong sa mga kaso nila. 2190 02:29:31,100 --> 02:29:32,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2191 02:29:33,040 --> 02:29:44,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker, the Bureau of Corrections guarantee na as much as possible kung saan po malapit yung pamilya ng PDL, doon po siya maidadala. 2192 02:29:44,900 --> 02:29:46,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At sana po. 2193 02:29:48,180 --> 02:29:59,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang pagbabago or update tungkol sa kung saan siya, ang isang PDL mapunta, ay ito po ay mapapaalam sa ating pamilya, sa kanilang mga lawyers at hindi mabibigla. 2194 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:02,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na nawala na lang po sila doon sa penal colony. 2195 02:30:02,840 --> 02:30:06,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I assume, and I assume the B Corp is aware of this, 2196 02:30:06,240 --> 02:30:09,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sensitibo din po yung hinahawak nilang matter. 2197 02:30:10,100 --> 02:30:15,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, we, the Bureau of Corrections guarantee po na ipapaalam rin po ito 2198 02:30:15,120 --> 02:30:18,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung sakaling dumating po sa ganong punto. 2199 02:30:19,340 --> 02:30:20,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 2200 02:30:20,720 --> 02:30:23,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mangingina lang po ang representasyon na ito 2201 02:30:23,200 --> 02:30:28,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng listahan ng balak ng B Corp 2202 02:30:28,960 --> 02:30:34,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na magtayo or magpaayos ng penal colonies and correctional facilities 2203 02:30:34,360 --> 02:30:37,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na pupuntahan ng iba't-ibang mga PDLs. 2204 02:30:37,340 --> 02:30:40,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can that be accomplished by next week, Madam Speaker, good sponsor? 2205 02:30:41,460 --> 02:30:44,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. 2206 02:30:44,680 --> 02:30:46,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay, maraming salamat po. 2207 02:30:46,740 --> 02:30:49,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pupunta na ba po ako sa susunod na mga katanungan? 2208 02:30:50,360 --> 02:30:54,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito rin po ay follow-up doon sa tanong natin sa committee-level briefings 2209 02:30:54,940 --> 02:30:58,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung saan we confirmed the existence 2210 02:30:58,960 --> 02:31:03,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of Task Force on Anti-Terrorism na bahagi 2211 02:31:03,760 --> 02:31:06,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: o pinamumunuan ng Department of Justice. 2212 02:31:07,060 --> 02:31:08,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can I confirm this? 2213 02:31:08,540 --> 02:31:11,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Once again, on the floor, Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2214 02:31:28,960 --> 02:31:55,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: There is no special task force under the DOJ po 2215 02:31:55,600 --> 02:31:58,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na regarding sa anti-terrorism. 2216 02:31:58,960 --> 02:32:02,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: It falls under kung ano po yung General Commission of Crimes 2217 02:32:02,320 --> 02:32:04,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung pag-investigate po dito. 2218 02:32:05,000 --> 02:32:07,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero sila po ay miyembro ng 2219 02:32:07,040 --> 02:32:16,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: regular member lang po sila ng Anti-Terrorism Council, 2220 02:32:16,320 --> 02:32:17,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. 2221 02:32:18,900 --> 02:32:21,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yung nabanggit po natin na anecdote 2222 02:32:21,840 --> 02:32:24,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung saan gusto natin manghingi ng explanation 2223 02:32:24,820 --> 02:32:27,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa Department of Justice 2224 02:32:27,040 --> 02:32:28,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay meron pong mga agents 2225 02:32:28,960 --> 02:32:31,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of Bureau of Immigration 2226 02:32:31,700 --> 02:32:34,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na may suot po na vest 2227 02:32:34,700 --> 02:32:38,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ang label na nakalagay po dito 2228 02:32:38,480 --> 02:32:41,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay Anti-Terror Task Force. 2229 02:32:41,760 --> 02:32:42,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ano po bang explanation dito? 2230 02:32:43,060 --> 02:32:45,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And narinig po natin on the floor, on the committee 2231 02:32:45,880 --> 02:32:47,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na meron pong task force 2232 02:32:47,900 --> 02:32:50,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on anti-terrorism na bahagi ang DOJ. 2233 02:32:50,540 --> 02:32:52,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So kinaklarify po natin yung nature nito. 2234 02:32:52,620 --> 02:32:53,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Bahagi po ba sila? 2235 02:32:54,260 --> 02:32:55,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lead po ba sila nito? 2236 02:32:56,520 --> 02:32:57,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2237 02:32:57,840 --> 02:33:01,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. 2238 02:33:02,940 --> 02:33:04,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Supporting agency daw po ang 2239 02:33:04,580 --> 02:33:08,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bureau of Immigration sa Anti-Terrorism Council. 2240 02:33:08,880 --> 02:33:12,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kaya po siguro makakikita na may ibang ahente 2241 02:33:12,180 --> 02:33:15,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng Bureau of Immigration na may suot po 2242 02:33:15,100 --> 02:33:17,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng Anti-Terror Task Force. 2243 02:33:17,880 --> 02:33:21,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I did not hear properly the first phrase, 2244 02:33:21,400 --> 02:33:22,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2245 02:33:22,400 --> 02:33:23,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May the sponsor... 2246 02:33:23,180 --> 02:33:25,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Supporting agency po yung Bureau of Immigration 2247 02:33:25,380 --> 02:33:27,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng Anti-Terror Task Force. 2248 02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:33,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, baka po yun po yung rason kung bakit may kita po 2249 02:33:33,440 --> 02:33:35,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na ibang ahente po ng ating Bureau of Immigration 2250 02:33:35,960 --> 02:33:39,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ay may suot po ng best na nakalagay po 2251 02:33:39,500 --> 02:33:41,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung Anti-Terror Task Force. 2252 02:33:42,120 --> 02:33:43,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2253 02:33:45,520 --> 02:33:49,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: A cursory search through Google or the internet 2254 02:33:49,420 --> 02:33:52,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yields results saying na meron pong 2255 02:33:52,380 --> 02:33:54,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: DOJ Task Force on Anti-Terrorism. 2256 02:33:54,840 --> 02:33:56,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Dito po, mga newscasts, 2257 02:33:57,840 --> 02:34:01,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: news articles po sila on the DOJ website 2258 02:34:01,040 --> 02:34:04,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na sinasabi that they've scored another victory 2259 02:34:04,540 --> 02:34:07,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the courts to convict, for example, 2260 02:34:08,520 --> 02:34:11,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: an individual or a group, 2261 02:34:12,140 --> 02:34:13,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero deleted na po sila. 2262 02:34:14,360 --> 02:34:15,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Failing na po yung links. 2263 02:34:15,980 --> 02:34:19,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kiklik po namin, wala pong lumalabas. 2264 02:34:19,880 --> 02:34:21,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 2265 02:34:21,180 --> 02:34:22,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd like to ask an explanation. 2266 02:34:22,680 --> 02:34:26,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: What is the DOJ Task Force on Anti-Terrorism? 2267 02:34:27,840 --> 02:34:40,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: It's a regular task force po ng team of prosecutors 2268 02:34:40,040 --> 02:34:42,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na yun lang po yung kanilang inuimbestigan 2269 02:34:42,280 --> 02:34:43,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: at pinaprosecute ng mga kaso 2270 02:34:43,880 --> 02:34:48,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: relating to anti-terrorism laws po. 2271 02:34:48,660 --> 02:34:50,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, this is English colleague. 2272 02:34:51,840 --> 02:34:55,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, meron pong DOJ Task Force on Anti-Terrorism. 2273 02:34:55,640 --> 02:34:57,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hindi po tama yung kanina na wala. 2274 02:34:57,840 --> 02:35:05,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Wala pong special task force. 2275 02:35:06,160 --> 02:35:08,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Regular task force lang po siya to investigate 2276 02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:12,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: anti-terrorism cases. 2277 02:35:12,500 --> 02:35:13,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, this is English colleague. 2278 02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:17,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ano po bang difference ng regular and special task force, 2279 02:35:18,040 --> 02:35:19,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor? 2280 02:35:27,840 --> 02:35:45,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Well, yung regular task force po, 2281 02:35:45,400 --> 02:35:49,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: parang grouping lang po within the DOJ ng mga fiskal. 2282 02:35:50,100 --> 02:35:52,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Saan, focus lang po sila dun sa ganoong kaso. 2283 02:35:52,980 --> 02:35:54,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, yung special task force po, 2284 02:35:55,680 --> 02:35:57,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: more on created rin by, 2285 02:35:57,840 --> 02:35:58,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: law, 2286 02:35:58,620 --> 02:36:00,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung lalo na po yung sa 2287 02:36:00,780 --> 02:36:03,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: against anti-trafficking, 2288 02:36:03,980 --> 02:36:04,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa 2289 02:36:04,360 --> 02:36:07,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: bousy, 2290 02:36:09,080 --> 02:36:09,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa cybercrime, 2291 02:36:10,180 --> 02:36:11,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yun po yung mga special task force. 2292 02:36:11,900 --> 02:36:15,340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ito po, yung sa anti-terrorism laws na cases, 2293 02:36:16,000 --> 02:36:17,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: group of prosecutors lang po, 2294 02:36:17,840 --> 02:36:19,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yun lang po yung handle nila. 2295 02:36:19,540 --> 02:36:23,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi siya, parang regular task force lang po sila, 2296 02:36:23,460 --> 02:36:24,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: regular prosecutors, 2297 02:36:25,240 --> 02:36:27,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: focused on investigating, 2298 02:36:27,840 --> 02:36:29,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung anti-terrorism cases. 2299 02:36:30,820 --> 02:36:32,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 2300 02:36:33,280 --> 02:36:34,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may department order ba, 2301 02:36:35,200 --> 02:36:37,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or whatever legal basis, 2302 02:36:38,020 --> 02:36:40,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na naglalatag kung ano pong mandato nito, 2303 02:36:41,340 --> 02:36:44,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that creates and establishes this task force? 2304 02:36:59,710 --> 02:37:02,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: there is a department order within the DOJ regarding that task force. 2305 02:37:02,260 --> 02:37:04,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: We would provide the good, 2306 02:37:05,560 --> 02:37:06,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the distinguished colleague na 2307 02:37:06,840 --> 02:37:10,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mabigay po itong department order po na ito. 2308 02:37:11,220 --> 02:37:12,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat po, 2309 02:37:12,280 --> 02:37:14,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: inintay po natin yung department order 2310 02:37:14,960 --> 02:37:17,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at yung paglalatag, no, 2311 02:37:17,360 --> 02:37:18,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng terms of reference, 2312 02:37:18,860 --> 02:37:19,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng mandato, 2313 02:37:20,080 --> 02:37:21,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng task force na ito. 2314 02:37:21,840 --> 02:37:23,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Dahil, so to clarify, 2315 02:37:24,040 --> 02:37:26,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: you mentioned that it is made up of prosecutors, 2316 02:37:26,640 --> 02:37:27,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, 2317 02:37:27,400 --> 02:37:28,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, 2318 02:37:28,580 --> 02:37:31,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero may involvement po ba ang Bureau of Immigration na ito? 2319 02:37:31,920 --> 02:37:34,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Also, to make the question more general, 2320 02:37:34,600 --> 02:37:37,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: interagency po ba ang task force na ito? 2321 02:37:37,980 --> 02:37:39,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pwede po bang magbigay ng, 2322 02:37:39,920 --> 02:37:42,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang DOJ ng mga ibang-ibang ahensya 2323 02:37:42,140 --> 02:37:45,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na involved sa operations ng task force na ito? 2324 02:38:22,660 --> 02:38:25,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 2325 02:38:25,260 --> 02:38:27,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung coordination lang po 2326 02:38:27,380 --> 02:38:29,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with the other agencies 2327 02:38:29,740 --> 02:38:31,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is through the ATC, 2328 02:38:31,360 --> 02:38:33,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the Anti-Terrorism Council. 2329 02:38:34,420 --> 02:38:35,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero yung 2330 02:38:35,520 --> 02:38:54,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, ang involvement po ng 2331 02:38:54,260 --> 02:38:55,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: DOJ 2332 02:38:55,660 --> 02:38:58,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: regarding po sa Anti-Terrorism 2333 02:38:58,260 --> 02:39:00,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Council 2334 02:39:00,180 --> 02:39:02,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is kapag nag-create po ng mga TWG 2335 02:39:02,280 --> 02:39:03,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung ating ATC, 2336 02:39:04,140 --> 02:39:06,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: usually doon po in-involve yung DOJ. 2337 02:39:07,360 --> 02:39:08,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: At yung coordination 2338 02:39:08,180 --> 02:39:10,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po ng ating ibang law enforcement 2339 02:39:10,020 --> 02:39:11,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: agencies at yung intelligence 2340 02:39:11,680 --> 02:39:13,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: agencies 2341 02:39:13,700 --> 02:39:15,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: through the ATC po daw 2342 02:39:15,520 --> 02:39:17,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang coordination po nila, 2343 02:39:18,040 --> 02:39:19,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the Anti-Terrorism Council. 2344 02:39:20,520 --> 02:39:22,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang binabahagi po ay explanation 2345 02:39:22,200 --> 02:39:23,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung bakit may involvement 2346 02:39:23,920 --> 02:39:25,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang Bureau of Immigration. May technical work, 2347 02:39:25,660 --> 02:39:27,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may technical working group that the DOJ is also part of 2348 02:39:27,860 --> 02:39:29,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that's separate 2349 02:39:29,060 --> 02:39:30,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from the 2350 02:39:30,880 --> 02:39:32,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: task force. 2351 02:39:33,200 --> 02:39:35,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ano po yung nature ng technical working group na ito? 2352 02:39:35,280 --> 02:39:37,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At ang scope of 2353 02:39:37,480 --> 02:39:39,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: duties and responsibilities ng DOJ? 2354 02:39:47,170 --> 02:39:51,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: It depends on the nature ng TWG na kine-create po 2355 02:39:51,740 --> 02:39:53,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng ating pong Anti-Terrorism 2356 02:39:53,740 --> 02:39:54,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Council. But, 2357 02:39:55,660 --> 02:39:57,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: in cases na may 2358 02:39:57,700 --> 02:39:59,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: legal aspect po yung ating pong 2359 02:39:59,520 --> 02:40:01,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: TWG, lagi pong involved yung 2360 02:40:01,720 --> 02:40:03,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ating pong DOJ 2361 02:40:03,500 --> 02:40:05,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: dito sa TWG na ito. 2362 02:40:06,900 --> 02:40:07,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam 2363 02:40:07,900 --> 02:40:09,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Speaker, good sponsor. Given 2364 02:40:09,780 --> 02:40:11,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po that the Secretary of Justice 2365 02:40:11,840 --> 02:40:13,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and therefore the Department is a member of 2366 02:40:13,760 --> 02:40:15,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Anti-Terrorism Council, maari po 2367 02:40:15,840 --> 02:40:17,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bang maka-furnish ng copy 2368 02:40:17,420 --> 02:40:19,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang representasyon na ito 2369 02:40:19,660 --> 02:40:21,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga technical working groups na bahagi 2370 02:40:21,840 --> 02:40:24,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung DOJ in relation po sa 2371 02:40:24,020 --> 02:40:25,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: coordination with the Anti-Terrorism Council. 2372 02:40:25,660 --> 02:40:27,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker, 2373 02:40:27,660 --> 02:40:29,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: we will comply po. 2374 02:40:29,660 --> 02:40:31,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2375 02:40:31,660 --> 02:40:33,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, ang 2376 02:40:33,660 --> 02:40:35,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to go back doon sa question na 2377 02:40:35,660 --> 02:40:37,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tinanong natin, 2378 02:40:37,660 --> 02:40:39,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: inter-agency po ba ang task force? 2379 02:40:39,660 --> 02:40:41,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May binigay pong explanation 2380 02:40:41,660 --> 02:40:43,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for possibly yung sa Bureau of Immigration, 2381 02:40:43,660 --> 02:40:45,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero we'd like a categorical answer, 2382 02:40:45,660 --> 02:40:47,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2383 02:41:09,500 --> 02:41:11,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 2384 02:41:11,500 --> 02:41:13,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: disengish ko ulit ito. 2385 02:41:15,500 --> 02:41:17,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Depende po siya sa 2386 02:41:17,500 --> 02:41:19,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: matter at hand sa 2387 02:41:19,500 --> 02:41:21,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Anti-Terrorism Council. 2388 02:41:21,500 --> 02:41:23,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kapag may 2389 02:41:23,500 --> 02:41:25,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga cases where foreigners are 2390 02:41:25,500 --> 02:41:27,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: involved, tsaka alam po nila 2391 02:41:27,500 --> 02:41:29,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ginagawa yung task force including 2392 02:41:29,500 --> 02:41:31,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the Bureau of Immigration 2393 02:41:31,500 --> 02:41:33,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and yung 2394 02:41:33,500 --> 02:41:35,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: iba po nating 2395 02:41:35,500 --> 02:41:37,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: law enforcement agency. So, depende po 2396 02:41:37,500 --> 02:41:39,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: talaga kung ano po yung nature ng task force 2397 02:41:39,500 --> 02:41:41,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na gawin po ng ating pong 2398 02:41:41,500 --> 02:41:43,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Anti-Terrorism Council. 2399 02:41:45,500 --> 02:41:47,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, to my understanding, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 2400 02:41:47,500 --> 02:41:49,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: you're talking about now a separate task 2401 02:41:49,500 --> 02:41:51,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: force or is this still the 2402 02:41:51,500 --> 02:41:53,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: task force 2403 02:41:53,500 --> 02:41:55,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on 2404 02:41:55,500 --> 02:41:57,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: anti-terrorism na 2405 02:41:57,500 --> 02:41:59,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ngayon hindi na lang siya 2406 02:41:59,500 --> 02:42:01,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: prosecutors pero it depends? 2407 02:42:13,500 --> 02:42:15,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Meron po talaga silang task force for 2408 02:42:15,500 --> 02:42:17,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: anti-terrorism cases. 2409 02:42:17,500 --> 02:42:19,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero kung kinakailangan 2410 02:42:19,500 --> 02:42:21,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po ng inter-agency task force for 2411 02:42:21,500 --> 02:42:23,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: anti-terrorism 2412 02:42:23,500 --> 02:42:25,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: cases, it flows 2413 02:42:25,500 --> 02:42:27,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: through the Anti-Terrorism 2414 02:42:27,500 --> 02:42:29,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Council po, not necessarily within 2415 02:42:29,500 --> 02:42:31,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the DOJ. 2416 02:42:31,500 --> 02:42:33,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sige po, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 2417 02:42:33,500 --> 02:42:35,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tinintay na lang po natin yung 2418 02:42:35,500 --> 02:42:37,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: report kung saan dinidetali 2419 02:42:37,500 --> 02:42:39,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ito at ano po yung scope of 2420 02:42:39,500 --> 02:42:41,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: responsibilities and duties ng DOJ 2421 02:42:41,500 --> 02:42:43,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at ang kanyang mga attached agencies. 2422 02:42:43,500 --> 02:42:45,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Tinatanong po natin yung mga tanong 2423 02:42:45,500 --> 02:42:47,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na to, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 2424 02:42:47,500 --> 02:42:49,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because it seems 2425 02:42:49,500 --> 02:42:51,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to me na baka may overlap. 2426 02:42:51,500 --> 02:42:53,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Between this DOJ task force on 2427 02:42:53,500 --> 02:42:55,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: anti-terrorism and the already established 2428 02:42:55,500 --> 02:42:57,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Anti-Terrorism Council. 2429 02:42:57,500 --> 02:42:59,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At mula anong napasa ang 2430 02:42:59,500 --> 02:43:01,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Anti-Terrorism Act of 2020 2431 02:43:01,500 --> 02:43:03,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na nag-establish ng Anti-Terrorism Council, 2432 02:43:03,500 --> 02:43:05,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kinaharap na ng mga ibang-ibang 2433 02:43:05,500 --> 02:43:07,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: civil society organizations 2434 02:43:07,500 --> 02:43:09,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and non-government organizations 2435 02:43:09,500 --> 02:43:11,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang harassment cases laban sa 2436 02:43:11,500 --> 02:43:13,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kanila. This is because of the 2437 02:43:13,500 --> 02:43:15,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: task force filing cases 2438 02:43:15,500 --> 02:43:17,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na sa dulo po nito may nakikita 2439 02:43:17,500 --> 02:43:19,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tayong mga 2440 02:43:19,500 --> 02:43:21,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nadidismissed, kalakhan, 2441 02:43:21,500 --> 02:43:23,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa kanila. The ATC 2442 02:43:23,500 --> 02:43:25,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: itself is already problematic 2443 02:43:25,500 --> 02:43:27,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bilang judge, jury, executioner. 2444 02:43:27,500 --> 02:43:29,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And so nakaka-alarm akong may mas 2445 02:43:29,500 --> 02:43:31,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: maluwag at mas malabo pang task force 2446 02:43:31,500 --> 02:43:33,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on anti-terrorism na hindi 2447 02:43:33,500 --> 02:43:35,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: malinaw para sa mamamayang Pilipino 2448 02:43:35,500 --> 02:43:37,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung sino-sino ang mananagot 2449 02:43:37,500 --> 02:43:39,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at paano pananagutin 2450 02:43:39,500 --> 02:43:41,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung may mga harassment cases nga pong 2451 02:43:41,500 --> 02:43:43,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hinarap at kung ito po ay 2452 02:43:43,500 --> 02:43:45,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: madidismissed, paano na po 2453 02:43:45,500 --> 02:43:47,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung mga nawala nilang buhay, nawala nilang 2454 02:43:47,500 --> 02:43:49,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: assets, nawala nilang reputasyon 2455 02:43:49,500 --> 02:43:51,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dahil po sa ginawang 2456 02:43:51,500 --> 02:43:53,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ganitong red tagging or even terror tagging. 2457 02:43:53,500 --> 02:43:55,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 2458 02:43:55,500 --> 02:43:57,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I'd like to make 2459 02:43:57,500 --> 02:43:59,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: my next line 2460 02:43:59,500 --> 02:44:01,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of questioning. Ito ay 2461 02:44:01,500 --> 02:44:03,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: binukas din natin during the 2462 02:44:03,500 --> 02:44:05,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: committee level deliberations 2463 02:44:05,500 --> 02:44:07,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung saan may nakita nga tayong mga 2464 02:44:07,500 --> 02:44:09,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pattern of dismissals under 2465 02:44:09,500 --> 02:44:11,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: cases filed ng 2466 02:44:11,500 --> 02:44:13,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: TFPSA and related 2467 02:44:13,500 --> 02:44:15,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: anti-terrorism legislation. 2468 02:44:15,500 --> 02:44:17,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Last year po, nagtanong din po tayo 2469 02:44:17,500 --> 02:44:19,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on this 2470 02:44:19,500 --> 02:44:21,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: matter, but we'd like to ask, 2471 02:44:21,500 --> 02:44:23,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron po bang current conviction rate 2472 02:44:23,500 --> 02:44:25,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for cases prosecuted under this 2473 02:44:25,500 --> 02:44:27,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: laws na may 2474 02:44:27,500 --> 02:44:29,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: record ang DOJ? 2475 02:44:31,500 --> 02:44:33,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So for 2476 02:44:33,500 --> 02:44:35,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 2025, 2477 02:44:37,500 --> 02:44:39,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: may mga complaints na 2478 02:44:39,500 --> 02:44:41,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: tinakil po yung ating pong 2479 02:44:41,500 --> 02:44:43,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Anti-Terrorism Act of 2020. 2480 02:44:43,500 --> 02:44:45,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: There are six complaints 2481 02:44:45,500 --> 02:44:47,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na 2482 02:44:47,500 --> 02:44:49,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na-resolved. 2483 02:44:51,500 --> 02:44:53,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In what manner po 2484 02:44:53,500 --> 02:44:55,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sila resolve? Madam Speaker, 2485 02:44:55,500 --> 02:44:57,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, from my communications 2486 02:44:57,500 --> 02:44:59,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: last year, there's three ways po kasi ma-resolve iyan. 2487 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:10,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As for the information I have 2488 02:45:10,640 --> 02:45:16,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pending complaint pa rin po ang apat 2489 02:45:16,160 --> 02:45:17,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: dalawa po yung dismissed 2490 02:45:17,280 --> 02:45:20,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As for the 2491 02:45:20,460 --> 02:45:23,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: matter kung paano po siya na-resolve 2492 02:45:23,400 --> 02:45:26,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: I'll just get the information 2493 02:45:26,000 --> 02:45:27,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and we'd like to 2494 02:45:27,600 --> 02:45:29,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: give a copy na lang po sa ating 2495 02:45:29,800 --> 02:45:30,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague 2496 02:45:30,940 --> 02:45:33,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor 2497 02:45:33,920 --> 02:45:35,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we will just simply 2498 02:45:35,920 --> 02:45:38,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: submit our request 2499 02:45:38,600 --> 02:45:40,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the continuing 2500 02:45:40,400 --> 02:45:42,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: line of communications that we've established 2501 02:45:42,480 --> 02:45:44,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: last year sa kung ano pong 2502 02:45:44,680 --> 02:45:46,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: status updates ng mga 2503 02:45:46,520 --> 02:45:48,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: complaints na hinandal 2504 02:45:49,300 --> 02:45:50,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng DOJ 2505 02:45:51,340 --> 02:45:52,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: under 2506 02:45:52,180 --> 02:45:54,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the terrorism-related 2507 02:45:54,640 --> 02:45:56,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: legislation. Madam Speaker, 2508 02:45:57,000 --> 02:45:58,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good Sponsor, pwede po bang 2509 02:45:58,720 --> 02:46:00,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: makahingi ng feedback 2510 02:46:00,100 --> 02:46:02,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the following week 2511 02:46:02,660 --> 02:46:04,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tungkol sa ano pong 2512 02:46:04,080 --> 02:46:06,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga updates ng mga kaso na ito? 2513 02:46:07,000 --> 02:46:09,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. 2514 02:46:10,300 --> 02:46:12,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And my last question would be 2515 02:46:12,340 --> 02:46:14,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation po sa 2516 02:46:14,000 --> 02:46:16,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: reported na 2517 02:46:16,280 --> 02:46:18,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: memorandum of agreement 2518 02:46:18,160 --> 02:46:20,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that the Public Attorney's Office 2519 02:46:20,260 --> 02:46:21,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: has with 2520 02:46:21,800 --> 02:46:24,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NTFL-CAC. Can we confirm 2521 02:46:24,180 --> 02:46:26,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: if totoo po bang may memorandum 2522 02:46:26,200 --> 02:46:28,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of agreement ang bawat NTFL-CAC? 2523 02:46:28,720 --> 02:46:40,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Wala po, Madam Speaker, 2524 02:46:40,880 --> 02:46:41,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague. 2525 02:46:42,460 --> 02:46:44,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 2526 02:46:45,040 --> 02:46:46,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this is confirming that 2527 02:46:46,720 --> 02:46:48,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wala pong memorandum of agreement 2528 02:46:48,480 --> 02:46:50,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para po in any 2529 02:46:50,960 --> 02:46:52,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: way ay nabibigyan 2530 02:46:52,860 --> 02:46:53,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng mga 2531 02:46:53,960 --> 02:46:56,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: legal services 2532 02:46:56,040 --> 02:46:57,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang mga 2533 02:46:57,320 --> 02:47:00,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dumadaan at nahahandle 2534 02:47:00,740 --> 02:47:02,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng operations ng NTFL-CAC. 2535 02:47:04,460 --> 02:47:06,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Wala pong formal MOA 2536 02:47:06,240 --> 02:47:08,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: but 2537 02:47:08,240 --> 02:47:10,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: in cases na kailangan po ng legal aid 2538 02:47:10,680 --> 02:47:13,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: tsaka lang po sila tinatawag, 2539 02:47:13,400 --> 02:47:13,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker. 2540 02:47:14,580 --> 02:47:16,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, 2541 02:47:16,940 --> 02:47:17,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we will hold 2542 02:47:17,900 --> 02:47:21,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the answer steadfast 2543 02:47:21,000 --> 02:47:23,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and hihintay na lang po natin 2544 02:47:23,200 --> 02:47:24,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung mga ibang-ibang 2545 02:47:24,780 --> 02:47:26,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga requested information 2546 02:47:27,320 --> 02:47:28,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: lalo na po 2547 02:47:28,600 --> 02:47:30,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mahalaga na 2548 02:47:30,860 --> 02:47:32,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dinidetali ito 2549 02:47:32,540 --> 02:47:34,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at inaalam kung paano 2550 02:47:34,760 --> 02:47:37,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nangyayari yung spending, yung budget 2551 02:47:37,440 --> 02:47:39,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng naaayon doon sa mga 2552 02:47:39,540 --> 02:47:40,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: programang mga 2553 02:47:40,920 --> 02:47:43,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dinetali. Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, 2554 02:47:43,460 --> 02:47:45,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we ask these questions because 2555 02:47:45,260 --> 02:47:47,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we have a standing critique 2556 02:47:47,300 --> 02:47:48,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on the 2557 02:47:48,960 --> 02:47:51,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: anti-terrorism related 2558 02:47:51,760 --> 02:47:53,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: legislation which has 2559 02:47:53,720 --> 02:47:55,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: been used as instruments 2560 02:47:55,260 --> 02:47:57,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for human rights 2561 02:47:57,060 --> 02:47:59,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: violations and we have noticed 2562 02:47:59,300 --> 02:48:01,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the pattern of these 2563 02:48:01,400 --> 02:48:03,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: legislations that 2564 02:48:03,260 --> 02:48:05,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: have been instruments 2565 02:48:05,000 --> 02:48:07,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para magkaroon ng mga trump up charges 2566 02:48:07,380 --> 02:48:09,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: against individuals and organizations 2567 02:48:09,360 --> 02:48:11,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that have ended in 2568 02:48:11,280 --> 02:48:12,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dismissals in court. 2569 02:48:13,200 --> 02:48:14,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, 2570 02:48:15,240 --> 02:48:17,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd like to continue to check 2571 02:48:17,240 --> 02:48:19,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung paano po ito na i-exercise 2572 02:48:19,540 --> 02:48:21,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng implementing agency ng Department 2573 02:48:21,420 --> 02:48:23,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of Justice. That's all Madam 2574 02:48:23,180 --> 02:48:25,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Speaker, Good Sponsor. Thank you very much 2575 02:48:25,180 --> 02:48:26,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for answering this representation. 2576 02:48:27,060 --> 02:48:29,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Madam Speaker, 2577 02:48:29,240 --> 02:48:31,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague. We will comply with all the 2578 02:48:31,080 --> 02:48:32,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: requirements para po 2579 02:48:32,080 --> 02:48:35,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: upon checking, makita nyo rin po yung 2580 02:48:35,040 --> 02:48:37,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga pagkukulang rin po 2581 02:48:37,360 --> 02:48:39,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang departamento at least ma-address po 2582 02:48:39,180 --> 02:48:40,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: natin na maayos. 2583 02:48:42,200 --> 02:48:43,040 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader? 2584 02:48:43,360 --> 02:48:45,280 Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize 2585 02:48:45,280 --> 02:48:47,080 Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez: the Honorable Robert Nazal of Bagong 2586 02:48:47,080 --> 02:48:48,960 Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez: Henerasyon Party-list for his interpellation. 2587 02:48:49,520 --> 02:48:51,080 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Robert Nazal 2588 02:48:51,080 --> 02:48:53,100 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of PH Party List is hereby recognized 2589 02:48:53,100 --> 02:48:54,300 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: for his interpellation. 2590 02:49:08,390 --> 02:49:11,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Good afternoon, Madam Chair, 2591 02:49:11,000 --> 02:49:13,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: good afternoon, distinguished colleagues, and good afternoon 2592 02:49:13,080 --> 02:49:14,440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: to the DOJ family. 2593 02:49:17,140 --> 02:49:19,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I'd like to start with the 2594 02:49:19,040 --> 02:49:20,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Public Attorney's Office. 2595 02:49:22,040 --> 02:49:23,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, 2596 02:49:23,020 --> 02:49:24,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I want to put 2597 02:49:24,260 --> 02:49:27,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: PAO first because so many Filipinos 2598 02:49:27,060 --> 02:49:28,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: who cannot afford private counsel 2599 02:49:28,920 --> 02:49:31,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: depend on its services. 2600 02:49:32,680 --> 02:49:33,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: In 2025, 2601 02:49:34,580 --> 02:49:35,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: PAO had a 2602 02:49:35,200 --> 02:49:37,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 100% obligation rate 2603 02:49:37,020 --> 02:49:39,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and a 100% disbursement rate. 2604 02:49:40,120 --> 02:49:40,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: In other words, 2605 02:49:41,620 --> 02:49:42,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ginagamit po talaga nila 2606 02:49:42,780 --> 02:49:44,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang pondong binigay sa kanila. 2607 02:49:45,440 --> 02:49:47,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And yet, the public attorney to court 2608 02:49:47,260 --> 02:49:49,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ratio remains at 1 is to 2 2609 02:49:49,540 --> 02:49:51,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: instead of a 1 is to 1 target. 2610 02:49:52,560 --> 02:49:53,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So Madam 2611 02:49:53,060 --> 02:49:55,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Speaker, distinguished 2612 02:49:55,240 --> 02:49:57,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: colleague, shouldn't we be giving 2613 02:49:57,060 --> 02:49:58,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: additional funding to agencies 2614 02:49:58,960 --> 02:49:59,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: like PAO 2615 02:49:59,640 --> 02:50:02,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: that have demonstrated that they can 2616 02:50:02,860 --> 02:50:04,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: fully utilize and disburse their budget 2617 02:50:04,820 --> 02:50:07,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: especially when there is 2618 02:50:07,180 --> 02:50:09,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: clearly still an unmet need 2619 02:50:09,280 --> 02:50:10,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for their services. 2620 02:50:11,720 --> 02:50:13,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Now my question is, how many 2621 02:50:13,280 --> 02:50:15,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: additional PAO lawyers do you need 2622 02:50:15,300 --> 02:50:17,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: to move toward a 2623 02:50:17,160 --> 02:50:19,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 1 is to 1 ratio, public 2624 02:50:19,160 --> 02:50:20,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: attorney to court ratio? 2625 02:50:21,380 --> 02:50:23,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Where are they most 2626 02:50:23,140 --> 02:50:24,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: urgently needed? 2627 02:50:24,960 --> 02:50:26,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And how much additional funding 2628 02:50:26,520 --> 02:50:27,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: would be required? 2629 02:50:49,200 --> 02:50:50,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 2630 02:50:50,800 --> 02:50:52,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague, total of 2631 02:50:54,280 --> 02:51:03,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 559 public attorney positions 2632 02:51:03,800 --> 02:51:05,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: tapos may mga around 400 support staff 2633 02:51:05,040 --> 02:51:06,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: positions 2634 02:51:06,440 --> 02:51:08,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po mahabol yung 2635 02:51:08,240 --> 02:51:09,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 1 is to 1 na court ratio. 2636 02:51:10,060 --> 02:51:12,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As for the deployment po ng ating 2637 02:51:12,140 --> 02:51:12,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga PAO, 2638 02:51:14,360 --> 02:51:16,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: it would depend kung saan po sila 2639 02:51:16,280 --> 02:51:18,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kailangan talaga, lalo na po dun sa mga 2640 02:51:18,480 --> 02:51:20,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: bagong gawang 2641 02:51:20,780 --> 02:51:21,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga korte. 2642 02:51:22,500 --> 02:51:23,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: At pati po dahil 2643 02:51:23,920 --> 02:51:26,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: meron pong bagong mandato regarding sa 2644 02:51:26,400 --> 02:51:29,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: seafarers act po na kailangan po nila 2645 02:51:29,820 --> 02:51:30,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mag-render ng 2646 02:51:30,580 --> 02:51:33,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: public legal assistance 2647 02:51:33,900 --> 02:51:35,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po sa ating mga seafare 2648 02:51:35,800 --> 02:51:40,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: as to the amount po 2649 02:51:40,160 --> 02:51:42,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: we'll get the 2650 02:51:42,200 --> 02:51:43,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: full amount 2651 02:51:43,700 --> 02:51:45,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: what we have is the 2652 02:51:45,640 --> 02:51:48,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: medyo conservative na amount na po ito 2653 02:51:48,860 --> 02:51:49,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: amounting to 2654 02:51:49,960 --> 02:51:51,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 500 million po, yun po ay 2655 02:51:51,920 --> 02:51:53,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: consisting of 2656 02:51:53,100 --> 02:51:54,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 224 2657 02:51:54,840 --> 02:51:57,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: PAO positions and 400 2658 02:51:57,640 --> 02:51:59,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ay 762 2659 02:51:59,900 --> 02:52:00,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: million amount 2660 02:52:00,760 --> 02:52:04,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: that's 224 2661 02:52:04,320 --> 02:52:06,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: public attorney positions 2662 02:52:06,320 --> 02:52:08,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: then 400 support staff po 2663 02:52:08,360 --> 02:52:11,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: saan kaya pwedeng kunin ng 2664 02:52:11,640 --> 02:52:13,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: DOJ yung 2665 02:52:13,020 --> 02:52:15,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: additional funds para mabigyan po 2666 02:52:15,780 --> 02:52:18,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: natin ang PAO, kasi meron din naman po 2667 02:52:18,040 --> 02:52:19,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang DOJ 2668 02:52:19,100 --> 02:52:20,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na earmarked revenues 2669 02:52:20,940 --> 02:52:21,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: meron po tayong 2670 02:52:21,920 --> 02:52:24,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: non-tax revenues 2671 02:52:24,840 --> 02:52:33,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang understanding ko is 2672 02:52:33,120 --> 02:52:37,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: based on the BESF report 2673 02:52:37,100 --> 02:52:40,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 7.3.81 billion in non-tax revenues 2674 02:52:40,960 --> 02:52:43,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: in 2025 ang nakuleta ng DOJ 2675 02:52:43,560 --> 02:52:45,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: hindi po ba pwedeng kunin doon yung 2676 02:52:45,280 --> 02:52:47,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: additional na 2677 02:52:57,200 --> 02:52:59,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hindi po ba pwedeng gamitin yung winning fee? 2678 02:53:03,200 --> 02:53:05,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: as for that amount 2679 02:53:05,200 --> 02:53:07,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: it amounts to 700 2680 02:53:07,200 --> 02:53:09,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: million daw po 2681 02:53:09,200 --> 02:53:11,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: but it is already remitted to the 2682 02:53:11,200 --> 02:53:13,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: treasury 2683 02:53:13,200 --> 02:53:15,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hindi na po nila magagamit itong 2684 02:53:15,200 --> 02:53:17,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga amount na ito 2685 02:53:19,200 --> 02:53:21,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yan po yung winning fee sa 2686 02:53:21,200 --> 02:53:22,030 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: civil cases and labor cases 2687 02:53:22,030 --> 02:53:28,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sino po ang nakakolekta nun, Distinguished Colleague? 2688 02:53:28,180 --> 02:53:41,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And why was that? Kung meron pa po tayong kulang in terms of yung lawyer to court ratio, bakit di po natin ginamit? 2689 02:53:53,800 --> 02:54:07,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yung winning fee po na nakukuha po nila sa civil cases and labor cases, through court order, diretsyo na po yun ng Treasury. 2690 02:54:10,020 --> 02:54:21,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang nangyayari na lang po, inihintay po nila na mag-create po ng PAO positions ang DBM bago po magamit yung ama. 2691 02:54:22,060 --> 02:54:23,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, it has to go through the DBM. 2692 02:54:23,800 --> 02:54:27,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Para magamit niyo po yung pera. 2693 02:54:28,360 --> 02:54:30,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 2694 02:54:30,480 --> 02:54:32,440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, what is the process? 2695 02:54:33,020 --> 02:54:37,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano hong nag-request ba tayo sa DBM? 2696 02:54:38,020 --> 02:54:42,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And when was the request acted upon? 2697 02:54:43,920 --> 02:54:47,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Or how long does it take for the request to be acted upon? 2698 02:54:50,680 --> 02:54:53,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And ito pong mga pondo na ito, saan po ba siya nag-request? 2699 02:54:53,800 --> 02:54:54,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano ang nakadeposit? 2700 02:54:56,020 --> 02:55:01,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung winning fee po sa Bureau of Treasury daw po nakadeposit. Diretsyo daw po siya doon. 2701 02:55:02,120 --> 02:55:03,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, ito yung earmark? 2702 02:55:05,220 --> 02:55:06,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2703 02:55:06,700 --> 02:55:10,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, ito yung winning fee, yan po yung... 2704 02:55:10,000 --> 02:55:12,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can you explain saan po nanggagaling yung winning fee? 2705 02:55:13,620 --> 02:55:18,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kapag favorable judgment po in civil cases and labor cases. 2706 02:55:18,700 --> 02:55:20,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And this goes to the PAO? 2707 02:55:20,640 --> 02:55:21,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: No. 2708 02:55:23,190 --> 02:55:27,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: It goes to the Treasury po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 2709 02:55:27,620 --> 02:55:34,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As for the positions po, nakapag-request na po sila ng additional PAO lawyers. 2710 02:55:35,300 --> 02:55:40,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang napaproobahan pa lang po ata for 2027 is 87 positions. 2711 02:55:40,120 --> 02:55:47,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So 2024 budget, 87, additional 87 pa lang po. 2712 02:55:49,800 --> 02:55:51,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ngayon pa lang po mapupunduhan. 2713 02:55:51,100 --> 02:56:00,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So meron pong gap between the creating and also yung pagpundo po doon sa positions. 2714 02:56:00,720 --> 02:56:02,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So meron naman pong funding na pumapasok. 2715 02:56:03,400 --> 02:56:07,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And do we have a target po kung kailan natin ma-achieve yung 1 is to 1 ratio? 2716 02:56:10,860 --> 02:56:12,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now, there's no target. 2717 02:56:12,520 --> 02:56:21,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: That's why they're making a wish list na sana po mabigay yung through Congress yung 500 plus na PAO positions. 2718 02:56:21,100 --> 02:56:26,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And 400 plus na support staff para po ma-achieve yung 1 is to 1 ratio. 2719 02:56:27,280 --> 02:56:33,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And also, kapag meron po kasing bagong korte, lagi pong nangangailangan ng dagdag. 2720 02:56:33,980 --> 02:56:48,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So hindi po po makita kung ano yung final target date kung kailan ma-achieve yung 1 is to 1 ratio hanggat meron pong new trial courts na na-approve or na-create. 2721 02:56:48,320 --> 02:56:50,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, Distinguished Colleague. 2722 02:56:51,100 --> 02:57:01,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, I think agencies that demonstrate good absorptive capacity like the PAO should be supported with additional funding when there is a demonstrated public need. 2723 02:57:01,980 --> 02:57:03,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: E kitang-kita naman po natin yung pangangailangan. 2724 02:57:04,480 --> 02:57:07,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Every time nagdadagdag nga tayo ng korte, kailangan pa magdagdag ng PAO. 2725 02:57:07,620 --> 02:57:12,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So what additional amount can PAO realistically absorb and utilize in 2027? 2726 02:57:13,120 --> 02:57:16,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yung binanggit niyo po bang amount, ay kaya niyong i-disperse? 2727 02:57:17,980 --> 02:57:18,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yung additional? 2728 02:57:19,860 --> 02:57:20,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung set. 2729 02:57:21,100 --> 02:57:23,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 700 plus billion po, kaya po. 2730 02:57:23,640 --> 02:57:29,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kasi purely mga personal services naman po ito. 2731 02:57:29,640 --> 02:57:32,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So kung tutusin, yung winning fee, pwede niyo pong gamitin sana? 2732 02:57:38,500 --> 02:57:40,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For additional hirings? 2733 02:57:41,660 --> 02:57:44,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pwede pong gamitin siya for additional allowances. 2734 02:57:44,360 --> 02:57:50,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero still, the process is, kailangan pong mag-request ng creation ng... 2735 02:57:51,100 --> 02:57:53,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: PAO positions sa DBM. 2736 02:57:53,580 --> 02:57:57,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So I urge Congress, our colleagues in Congress, 2737 02:57:57,700 --> 02:58:00,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: tsaka yung ating APRO Chair, 2738 02:58:00,560 --> 02:58:04,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na sana po, dagdagan po ang pondo ng PAO para magawa po nila yung 1 is to 1 ratio. 2739 02:58:05,640 --> 02:58:08,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May I go to my next question, Madam Speaker? 2740 02:58:11,460 --> 02:58:16,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: One of the biggest concerns of ordinary Filipinos is how long it takes for cases to be resolved. 2741 02:58:17,980 --> 02:58:19,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So from the DOJ's end, 2742 02:58:19,400 --> 02:58:22,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: what are the biggest bottlenecks today? 2743 02:58:23,320 --> 02:58:30,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Lack of prosecutors, support staff, case management systems, witnesses, or coordination with the courts? 2744 02:58:31,500 --> 02:58:38,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: More importantly, what additional budget, personnel, or authority does DOJ need from Congress to help speed up the disposition of cases? 2745 02:58:40,380 --> 02:58:46,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So there is a need to increase the prosecutorial arm po ng ating DOJ. 2746 02:58:46,600 --> 02:58:47,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They have already... 2747 02:58:49,400 --> 02:58:55,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: requested sa DBM ng mga additional prosecutorial positions 2748 02:58:55,160 --> 02:59:00,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po mapabilis yung ating pong pag-resolve po ng mga kaso. 2749 02:59:01,220 --> 02:59:04,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now, staggered po ang commitment ng ating pong DBM 2750 02:59:04,420 --> 02:59:07,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na ibigay po yung mga prosecutorial positions. 2751 02:59:10,500 --> 02:59:17,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And meron rin pong delay sa pag-fill up ng positions na yun 2752 02:59:17,080 --> 02:59:18,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: dahil po dun sa... 2753 02:59:19,400 --> 02:59:23,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: iba pong appointment ay kailangan ng presidential appointment. 2754 02:59:24,860 --> 02:59:27,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Usually po, umabot ng isang taon. 2755 02:59:27,180 --> 02:59:30,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero alam ko, from the DOJ themselves, 2756 02:59:30,580 --> 02:59:33,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: medyo napapababa na po ng 4 to 5 months, 4 to 6 months, 2757 02:59:34,460 --> 02:59:36,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung pag-appoint po ng prosecutors. 2758 02:59:38,280 --> 02:59:40,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung iba naman po, lalo na po yung mga support staff, 2759 02:59:41,080 --> 02:59:44,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: usually sa Secretary of Justice naman na po, 2760 02:59:44,740 --> 02:59:45,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: dumadaan yung pag-appoint. 2761 02:59:46,680 --> 02:59:49,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero malaki po yung pangailangan po para po sa ating... 2762 02:59:49,400 --> 02:59:51,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ating pong mga dagdag na prosecutors. 2763 02:59:52,180 --> 02:59:57,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kasi may ideal number po ang DOJ na at least sana po mapunan 2764 02:59:57,200 --> 03:00:00,150 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po mas mabilis po yung pag-dispense ng ating pong mga kaso. 2765 03:00:00,300 --> 03:00:21,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Based on the CPBRD report, Distinguished Colleague, DOJ is projected to have 7,140 unfilled positions in 2027, including 1,740 in OSEC. Ano po ba ang target natin ngayon para ma-fill yung gap? 2766 03:00:25,060 --> 03:00:26,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Actually, yun po yung kulang na ngayon. 2767 03:00:26,960 --> 03:00:33,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi this is substantial po eh. And this will definitely affect yung disposition of cases. 2768 03:00:34,700 --> 03:00:40,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yun po yung hinihintay po yung karamihan po is pending presidential appointment. 2769 03:00:41,380 --> 03:00:49,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ilan po ba ang pending due to the presidential appointment? Ilan ang pending dahil sa budgetary concerns? 2770 03:00:56,960 --> 03:01:11,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now po yung hinihintay po na appointment is 203 po na prosecutorial positions. 2771 03:01:11,540 --> 03:01:12,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As for... 2772 03:01:19,540 --> 03:01:25,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As for kung ano po yung ine-expect nila na additional positions po para... 2773 03:01:26,960 --> 03:01:36,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Dumabi po yung ating mga prosecutors, as for 2026, 237 po. Hopefully yung madagdagan. 2774 03:01:39,000 --> 03:01:45,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 2027, 227 and 2028, 237 prosecutorial positions. 2775 03:01:45,800 --> 03:01:55,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung iba pong delay sa pag-fill po ng ating mga positions, yung iba po ay dahil po sa approval naman po ng Civil Service Commission. 2776 03:01:55,840 --> 03:01:56,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Of the 7,000... 2777 03:01:56,960 --> 03:02:00,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Of the 7,140 unfilled positions, ilan po ba dun ang prosecutorial? 2778 03:02:20,300 --> 03:02:24,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 866 po yung unfilled prosecutors. 2779 03:02:24,660 --> 03:02:28,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 866 po yung unfilled prosecutors dun sa 7,140 na unfilled. 2780 03:02:30,700 --> 03:02:36,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And we are expecting 237 will be filled by 2027. 2781 03:02:37,100 --> 03:02:40,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Additional 227 only. 2782 03:02:40,320 --> 03:02:45,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So that still leaves us with a substantial amount of around 600 plus. 2783 03:02:47,680 --> 03:02:50,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And ang problema po dun is mostly budgetary? 2784 03:02:50,580 --> 03:02:53,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2785 03:02:54,660 --> 03:02:56,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Adding to the... 2786 03:03:08,460 --> 03:03:13,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung budgetary constraints po rin po yung main problem po ng ating DOJ. 2787 03:03:15,900 --> 03:03:19,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues. 2788 03:03:21,380 --> 03:03:24,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: The DOJ has approximately... 2789 03:03:24,660 --> 03:03:33,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: P15.3 billion in accumulated earmarked revenues, revenue balances, as of December 31, 2025. 2790 03:03:37,080 --> 03:03:41,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pero hindi po ba pwedeng gamitin yung earmarked revenue? 2791 03:03:45,160 --> 03:03:47,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Para dun sa mga kakulangan natin sa funding? 2792 03:03:49,160 --> 03:03:51,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Or are these mostly... 2793 03:03:52,370 --> 03:03:55,710 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Is this earmarked revenue including attached agencies po ba? 2794 03:03:58,100 --> 03:04:00,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The DOJ cannot use that. 2795 03:04:00,260 --> 03:04:09,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: There are specific limitations per attached agency as to the allowed spending of that revenue po. 2796 03:04:09,820 --> 03:04:14,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Lalo na po yung sa LRA, OSG, and... 2797 03:04:14,120 --> 03:04:15,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: How about yung non-tax revenues? 2798 03:04:24,500 --> 03:04:28,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron tayong P17.381 billion in non-tax collection. 2799 03:04:30,640 --> 03:04:31,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can't we use that? 2800 03:04:37,420 --> 03:04:44,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Meron na pong limitasyon yung sa paggamit yung non-tax revenues po. 2801 03:04:54,500 --> 03:04:58,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano yung... saan po natin siya... 2802 03:04:58,800 --> 03:05:00,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What is its intended use? 2803 03:05:11,530 --> 03:05:15,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Sa Victim's Compensation Program po. 2804 03:05:15,160 --> 03:05:17,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ah, so only for the Victim's Compensation? 2805 03:05:17,640 --> 03:05:18,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po. 2806 03:05:18,640 --> 03:05:23,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, yan yung off-budget? 2807 03:05:24,360 --> 03:05:25,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Na sinasabi? 2808 03:05:25,360 --> 03:05:26,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yung off-budget? 2809 03:05:27,360 --> 03:05:28,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker. 2810 03:05:28,360 --> 03:05:34,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, off-budget specifically for awards to victims of unjust imprisonment or detention? 2811 03:05:34,360 --> 03:05:37,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2812 03:05:37,360 --> 03:05:43,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: In 2025 po, you had... ganung kalaki yung nakulekta natin? 2813 03:05:43,360 --> 03:05:44,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 17 billion ba? 2814 03:05:44,360 --> 03:05:45,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yeah. 2815 03:05:45,360 --> 03:05:48,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Including attached agencies po. 2816 03:05:48,360 --> 03:05:49,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: No, no. 2817 03:05:49,360 --> 03:05:52,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: How much is the total amount para dun sa... na nakulekta? 2818 03:05:52,500 --> 03:05:53,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: As of now? 2819 03:05:53,500 --> 03:05:55,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung off-budget account lang. 2820 03:05:55,500 --> 03:05:56,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yung off-budget account lang. 2821 03:05:56,500 --> 03:06:01,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yung for awards to victims of unjust imprisonment and detention. 2822 03:06:01,500 --> 03:06:08,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As for... may I clarify if it's including all the attached agencies under the DOJ? 2823 03:06:08,500 --> 03:06:09,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Because... 2824 03:06:09,500 --> 03:06:10,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes. 2825 03:06:10,500 --> 03:06:11,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes. 2826 03:06:20,500 --> 03:06:21,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes. 2827 03:06:23,510 --> 03:06:26,250 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ito ba yung 187? 2828 03:06:29,000 --> 03:06:33,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kasi ang income po ay totaling... 2025 income po ay 17 million. 2829 03:06:33,500 --> 03:06:50,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As per records po ng ating po department of DOJ, ng Department of Justice, 17,810,728 po yung actual income ng buong DOJ including the attached agencies. 2830 03:06:50,500 --> 03:07:01,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: The BSF table in draft reports, ang nakalagay po doon in receipts and ang resibo na natanggap is 187.937 million. 2831 03:07:02,840 --> 03:07:03,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Is that correct? 2832 03:07:04,880 --> 03:07:05,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: As of 2025? 2833 03:07:13,020 --> 03:07:16,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pero yung reported expenditure was only 19.3. 2834 03:07:20,760 --> 03:07:24,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May I ask why the utilization is so low? 2835 03:07:28,500 --> 03:07:33,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May we clarify, ano po yung 187? 2836 03:07:34,260 --> 03:07:38,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ito yung off-budget account for awards to victims of unjust imprisonment. 2837 03:07:52,500 --> 03:07:59,970 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As per records po ng DOJ, ang non-tax revenue lang po talaga ay... 2838 03:07:59,970 --> 03:08:10,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi, meron kayong off-budget account based on the BSF for awards to victims of unjust imprisonment. 2839 03:08:10,660 --> 03:08:21,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Based on yung 2025 data po, 187 million in receipts. Tapos 19.3 ang nagastos. 2840 03:08:40,660 --> 03:08:55,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So my question is, why is the utilization so low? Is the problem lack of awareness, restrictive requirements, processing delays, or simply a low number of qualified claims? 2841 03:08:55,860 --> 03:09:05,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: It depends on kung mag-claim po yung aplikante. And as you know, yung batas po natin regarding victims' compensation, 2842 03:09:06,180 --> 03:09:09,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung amount po dun is limited pa rin po to 1,000 per... 2843 03:09:10,660 --> 03:09:13,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: month? 10,000? 2844 03:09:15,680 --> 03:09:16,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So basically... 2845 03:09:17,680 --> 03:09:21,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Medyo maliit pa po. There is a need to update the Victims' Compensation Program. 2846 03:09:23,700 --> 03:09:26,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: When was this last updated, Distinguished Sponsor? 2847 03:09:33,900 --> 03:09:40,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Last, ito pong batas na kung saan pinagbabasahan po natin itong Victims' Compensation Program ay 1992 pa po. 2848 03:09:40,660 --> 03:09:45,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 34 years na po ang nakalipas. Kaya yung amounts... 2849 03:09:46,240 --> 03:09:50,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So ang binibigay pagka ikaw ay unjustly nakulong... 2850 03:09:50,120 --> 03:09:51,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ganon pa rin po yung amount na... 2851 03:09:51,500 --> 03:09:52,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 1,000 a month. 2852 03:09:54,080 --> 03:09:55,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 10,000 a month. 2853 03:09:55,980 --> 03:09:56,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 1,000? 2854 03:09:58,880 --> 03:10:00,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: One time 10,000 po. 2855 03:10:00,700 --> 03:10:02,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: One time na 10,000? 2856 03:10:05,180 --> 03:10:06,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tawawa naman po ba lang? 2857 03:10:06,960 --> 03:10:08,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: That's why there is a need to update, dalo po. 2858 03:10:08,980 --> 03:10:09,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So... 2859 03:10:09,780 --> 03:10:09,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So this is... 2860 03:10:10,660 --> 03:10:12,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: This should be updated by Congress or... 2861 03:10:14,000 --> 03:10:19,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can't it be initially po adjusted through a department order or an executive order? 2862 03:10:19,340 --> 03:10:21,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: By law po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 2863 03:10:22,460 --> 03:10:25,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So hopefully po, ma-adjust na po itong amount na ito. 2864 03:10:25,820 --> 03:10:28,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So Distinguished Sponsor, dapat po ayusin na natin ito. 2865 03:10:28,820 --> 03:10:31,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kaya tawawa naman yung mga biktima. 2866 03:10:31,680 --> 03:10:35,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: We're willing to work with your office po, Distinguished Colleague, Madam Speaker. 2867 03:10:35,620 --> 03:10:39,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sige po. So this is one thing that we should take note of, we should adjust. 2868 03:10:39,780 --> 03:10:40,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes. 2869 03:10:40,660 --> 03:10:41,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I-update na po natin yung batas. 2870 03:10:44,260 --> 03:10:49,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: How about data po on overstaying prisoners? 2871 03:10:51,000 --> 03:10:52,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron po ba tayong data on that? 2872 03:10:59,540 --> 03:11:05,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: No data and no overstaying data on... 2873 03:11:05,540 --> 03:11:09,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Sa pagkakasabi po na atin pong Bureau of Corrections... 2874 03:11:09,540 --> 03:11:13,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: There's no data because wala na rin pong overstaying. 2875 03:11:13,800 --> 03:11:18,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So lahat po ng supposed na overstaying ay napakawala na? 2876 03:11:18,500 --> 03:11:32,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Everyone due to be released has been released naman daw po as per our DOJ and our Bureau of Corrections. 2877 03:11:32,540 --> 03:11:35,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Do we have that data? Can you share that with the... 2878 03:11:35,420 --> 03:11:39,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: At least the reports on sino po yung mga overstaying, gano'ng katagal. 2879 03:11:39,540 --> 03:11:41,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Na silang overstaying and then when were they released? 2880 03:11:42,620 --> 03:11:46,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes. Madam Speaker, we will submit the data. 2881 03:11:51,500 --> 03:11:56,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: On the Bucor, balik po tayo sa Bucor, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker. 2882 03:11:57,400 --> 03:12:07,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Bucor's authorized uniform positions increased from 9,133 in 2025 to 11,133 in 2027. 2883 03:12:07,120 --> 03:12:09,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But the staffing summaries... 2884 03:12:09,540 --> 03:12:13,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: It still shows only 8,464 field positions. 2885 03:12:15,300 --> 03:12:21,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May I ask, Distinguished Sponsor, what is preventing Bucor from filling these positions? 2886 03:12:21,280 --> 03:12:26,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Is it recruitment, training capacity, funding, or administrative processing? 2887 03:12:27,700 --> 03:12:34,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, for the reasons kung bakit hindi pa field itong mga posisyon nito, 2888 03:12:35,300 --> 03:12:39,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: it is primarily attributable to the additional... 2889 03:12:39,540 --> 03:12:44,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Positions created pursuant to DBM-approved restructuring of the Bureau, 2890 03:12:44,680 --> 03:12:47,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: including 1,000 new positions for correction officers. 2891 03:12:48,720 --> 03:12:51,340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: To facilitate the filling of these positions, 2892 03:12:52,360 --> 03:12:59,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the Bureau has requested the approval of a 3-year CSE-approved qualification standards for correction officers. 2893 03:13:00,580 --> 03:13:05,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So ito pong qualification standards ay under review pa po ng ating pong CSE office. 2894 03:13:06,200 --> 03:13:09,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: In the meantime po, yung other vacancies naman, 2895 03:13:09,540 --> 03:13:13,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po ay na-address through recruitment and appointment ng processes. 2896 03:13:15,360 --> 03:13:23,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Medyo lumaki lang po dahil po dito sa 1,000 new positions na na-restructure po na ating pong DBM. 2897 03:13:24,200 --> 03:13:26,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor. 2898 03:13:27,660 --> 03:13:29,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Let me go to my next question. 2899 03:13:29,320 --> 03:13:39,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: In 2025, 33.9% of the 404,124 cases, decided cases, were dismissed by the trial. 2900 03:13:39,540 --> 03:13:42,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: This is a substantial number. 2901 03:13:43,420 --> 03:13:46,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What are the major causes of these dismissals? 2902 03:13:46,800 --> 03:13:53,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Insufficient evidence, witness problems, weaknesses in investigation, procedural issues, or something else? 2903 03:13:54,560 --> 03:14:01,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What additional resources or reforms does the National Prosecution Service need to reduce avoidable dismissals 2904 03:14:01,540 --> 03:14:04,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and strengthen the cases brought before the courts? 2905 03:14:09,540 --> 03:14:21,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, there are a number of reasons kung bakit po nadidismiss ng RTC. 2906 03:14:24,960 --> 03:14:34,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang commitment po ng DOJ is that yung standard po na-impose po sa kanila, 2907 03:14:34,320 --> 03:14:39,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung reasonable certainty of conviction na standard, 2908 03:14:39,300 --> 03:14:39,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yun po na-impose po sa kanila. 2909 03:14:39,520 --> 03:14:46,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: At yung reasonable certainty po yung susundan nila para po maiwasan yung pag-dismiss po ng ating mga kaso sa Regional Trial Court. 2910 03:14:46,380 --> 03:14:53,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, it means working closely with the law enforcement agencies na yung available ng evidence, 2911 03:14:53,420 --> 03:15:00,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nakahanda na po agad para kung sakali, sa tingin po ng ating prosecutor, medyo solid na po. 2912 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:02,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung foundation for filing a case 2913 03:15:02,320 --> 03:15:03,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and pursuing a case 2914 03:15:03,740 --> 03:15:06,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na i-file po nila yung necessary 2915 03:15:06,040 --> 03:15:08,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: information. So, in the 2916 03:15:08,300 --> 03:15:10,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: past po, based talaga 2917 03:15:10,300 --> 03:15:11,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: on the data, 2918 03:15:12,260 --> 03:15:13,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: parang karamihan was 2919 03:15:13,480 --> 03:15:15,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: kulang po sa ebidensya 2920 03:15:15,900 --> 03:15:18,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or mahina yung kasong na prepare natin. 2921 03:15:26,800 --> 03:15:28,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Well, there are a number of reasons po 2922 03:15:28,820 --> 03:15:30,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung bakit po dinidismiss po ng 2923 03:15:30,360 --> 03:15:31,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: court. 2924 03:15:32,960 --> 03:15:34,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero majority naman po, 2925 03:15:37,640 --> 03:15:39,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: medyo mataas naman po yung ating 2926 03:15:39,000 --> 03:15:40,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: conviction rate pagdating po sa 2927 03:15:40,860 --> 03:15:42,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: prosecuting cases. 2928 03:15:43,940 --> 03:15:45,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron bang international standard 2929 03:15:45,380 --> 03:15:45,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yan? 2930 03:15:54,160 --> 03:15:55,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: There is no international 2931 03:15:55,500 --> 03:15:57,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: standard for conviction po. 2932 03:15:58,820 --> 03:16:01,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Court. 2933 03:16:02,300 --> 03:16:03,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that, 2934 03:16:03,700 --> 03:16:04,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Distinguished Sponsor. 2935 03:16:05,360 --> 03:16:09,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May I go now to the 2936 03:16:09,460 --> 03:16:11,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Bureau of Immigration. 2937 03:16:12,420 --> 03:16:13,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, may we ask the DOJ 2938 03:16:13,800 --> 03:16:15,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and the BI to clarify and 2939 03:16:15,700 --> 03:16:18,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: standardize the rules on departure requirements 2940 03:16:18,060 --> 03:16:19,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: because 2941 03:16:19,140 --> 03:16:22,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: there seems to be a confusion on the ground. 2942 03:16:23,320 --> 03:16:23,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For Barangay 2943 03:16:23,900 --> 03:16:25,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kagawads, meron pong 2944 03:16:25,600 --> 03:16:27,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: mga report na 2945 03:16:27,700 --> 03:16:28,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: that the BI requires 2946 03:16:28,820 --> 03:16:31,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: a DILG travel authority 2947 03:16:31,320 --> 03:16:32,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: before departure. 2948 03:16:33,400 --> 03:16:35,440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: While others traveling 2949 03:16:35,440 --> 03:16:37,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: under apparently similar circumstances 2950 03:16:37,700 --> 03:16:39,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: are not asked for one. 2951 03:16:41,300 --> 03:16:42,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: If a Barangay Kagawad 2952 03:16:42,500 --> 03:16:43,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: is traveling abroad 2953 03:16:43,980 --> 03:16:46,440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: purely for personal 2954 03:16:46,440 --> 03:16:48,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: reasons at his or 2955 03:16:48,460 --> 03:16:49,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: her own expense 2956 03:16:49,680 --> 03:16:52,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and the Punong Barangay has already approved 2957 03:16:52,360 --> 03:16:54,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the leave or the travel 2958 03:16:54,400 --> 03:16:56,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: authority, is a separate 2959 03:16:56,580 --> 03:16:58,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: DILG foreign travel authority 2960 03:16:58,700 --> 03:17:00,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: still legally required? 2961 03:17:04,990 --> 03:17:08,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kailangan pa rin daw po, ah, as per the Bureau of Immigration 2962 03:17:08,700 --> 03:17:10,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kasi DILG issuance daw po 2963 03:17:10,700 --> 03:17:12,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung requirement na ito. 2964 03:17:12,700 --> 03:17:14,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, hindi talaga 2965 03:17:14,700 --> 03:17:16,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sapat na mag-issue 2966 03:17:16,700 --> 03:17:18,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: lang ng travel authority ang kapitan. 2967 03:17:18,700 --> 03:17:20,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kailangan po nang magpaalam 2968 03:17:20,700 --> 03:17:22,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sa DILG. Ano po yung 2969 03:17:22,700 --> 03:17:24,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: legal basis nun? And under 2970 03:17:24,700 --> 03:17:26,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: exactly what circumstances 2971 03:17:26,700 --> 03:17:28,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: should the BI require it? 2972 03:17:28,700 --> 03:17:38,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, there is a DILG 2973 03:17:38,700 --> 03:17:40,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: memorandum circular regarding this matter 2974 03:17:40,700 --> 03:17:42,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: daw po. Ang 2975 03:17:42,700 --> 03:17:44,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nire-request po ng ating DILG 2976 03:17:44,700 --> 03:17:46,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is ang Bureau of Immigration 2977 03:17:46,700 --> 03:17:48,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: lang po ang mag-implement. So, 2978 03:17:48,700 --> 03:17:50,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: there is, the basis is with the 2979 03:17:50,700 --> 03:17:52,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: DILG po, 2980 03:17:52,700 --> 03:17:54,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker. So, siguro dapat po 2981 03:17:54,700 --> 03:17:56,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: alam lang ng 2982 03:17:56,700 --> 03:17:58,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: alam lang talaga lahat ng 2983 03:17:58,700 --> 03:18:00,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: procedure kasi parang ang dami po 2984 03:18:00,700 --> 03:18:02,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nangyayari. May mga tumatawag 2985 03:18:02,700 --> 03:18:04,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sa amin eh. Kaya ayoko naman na tumatawag 2986 03:18:04,700 --> 03:18:06,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pa ako kay Commissioner para lang 2987 03:18:06,700 --> 03:18:08,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: para lang sa mga ganyang problema. 2988 03:18:08,700 --> 03:18:10,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Dapat lang po siguro maklear 2989 03:18:10,700 --> 03:18:12,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: natin kasi ang daming 2990 03:18:12,700 --> 03:18:14,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: tumatawag, ang daming nakikiusap 2991 03:18:14,700 --> 03:18:16,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na nagkakaroon sila ng 2992 03:18:16,700 --> 03:18:18,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: experience na pagdating dun 2993 03:18:18,700 --> 03:18:20,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sa ano, hindi po nila alam 2994 03:18:20,700 --> 03:18:22,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: kung ano yung kailangan nila eh. 2995 03:18:22,700 --> 03:18:24,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Minsan kasi pinapayagan sila na may TA 2996 03:18:24,700 --> 03:18:26,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: galing sa kapitan, okay na. And then 2997 03:18:26,700 --> 03:18:28,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yung iba naman, 2998 03:18:28,700 --> 03:18:30,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I actually experienced the same kind of 2999 03:18:30,700 --> 03:18:32,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: inconsistency. I was 3000 03:18:32,700 --> 03:18:34,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: once traveling abroad with my 12-year-old 3001 03:18:34,700 --> 03:18:36,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: son. Normally, I do not need 3002 03:18:36,700 --> 03:18:38,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: a DSWD travel clearance 3003 03:18:38,700 --> 03:18:40,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: because a legitimate minor 3004 03:18:40,700 --> 03:18:42,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: traveling with either biological parents 3005 03:18:42,700 --> 03:18:44,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: is exempt, di ba? So, pwedeng isa na. 3006 03:18:44,700 --> 03:18:46,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Isa lang. But on one 3007 03:18:46,700 --> 03:18:48,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: occasion, tinanong po ako 3008 03:18:48,700 --> 03:18:50,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng isang immigration officer 3009 03:18:50,700 --> 03:18:52,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng DSWD 3010 03:18:52,700 --> 03:18:54,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: authorization. In fact, 3011 03:18:54,700 --> 03:18:56,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I had to call 3012 03:18:56,700 --> 03:18:58,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: someone from the BI so that the 3013 03:18:58,700 --> 03:19:00,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: proper rule could be explained to the immigration 3014 03:19:00,700 --> 03:19:02,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: officer. Kasi parang nga nangyayari. 3015 03:19:04,700 --> 03:19:06,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi po alam. Iba-iba 3016 03:19:06,700 --> 03:19:08,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yung alam nung bawat immigration officer. 3017 03:19:08,700 --> 03:19:10,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, gusto ko lang po malaman bakit 3018 03:19:10,700 --> 03:19:12,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: po nangyayari ito. Why 3019 03:19:12,700 --> 03:19:14,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: do different immigration officers appear 3020 03:19:14,700 --> 03:19:16,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: to have different interpretations of the 3021 03:19:16,700 --> 03:19:18,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: same requirements? 3022 03:19:18,700 --> 03:19:20,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And can DOJ 3023 03:19:20,700 --> 03:19:22,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and BI establish and strictly 3024 03:19:22,700 --> 03:19:24,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: implement one uniform set of departure 3025 03:19:24,700 --> 03:19:26,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: requirements? Properly 3026 03:19:26,700 --> 03:19:28,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: brief all immigration officers and clearly 3027 03:19:28,700 --> 03:19:30,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: publish these requirements so 3028 03:19:30,700 --> 03:19:32,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: passengers and barangay officials 3029 03:19:32,700 --> 03:19:34,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: know before going 3030 03:19:34,700 --> 03:19:36,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: to the airport exactly what documents 3031 03:19:36,700 --> 03:19:38,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: are required. Hindi dapat depende 3032 03:19:38,700 --> 03:19:40,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sa immigration officer 3033 03:19:40,700 --> 03:19:42,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na natapat sa iyo kung ano ang 3034 03:19:42,700 --> 03:19:44,050 Rep. Roberto Nazal: requirement. 3035 03:19:44,050 --> 03:19:44,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The chair would 3036 03:19:44,700 --> 03:19:46,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: like to inform Representative 3037 03:19:46,700 --> 03:19:48,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Nazal that his time has expired. 3038 03:19:48,700 --> 03:19:50,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Please kindly wrap up 3039 03:19:50,700 --> 03:19:52,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: after he answers this question. 3040 03:19:52,700 --> 03:19:54,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker. 3041 03:19:54,700 --> 03:19:56,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They are willing to 3042 03:19:56,700 --> 03:20:00,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: comply 3043 03:20:00,700 --> 03:20:02,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with the uniform set of 3044 03:20:02,700 --> 03:20:04,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: guidelines para po malaman po 3045 03:20:04,700 --> 03:20:06,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng ating mga kababayan 3046 03:20:06,700 --> 03:20:08,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: lalo na po yung mga ibang 3047 03:20:08,700 --> 03:20:10,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kawatni ng gobyerno kung ano po yung 3048 03:20:10,700 --> 03:20:12,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: requirements na dapat dala po nila 3049 03:20:12,700 --> 03:20:14,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pag dadaan po ng 3050 03:20:14,700 --> 03:20:16,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: immigration. As for the 3051 03:20:16,700 --> 03:20:18,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung mga incidents 3052 03:20:18,700 --> 03:20:20,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na ganyan kung saan 3053 03:20:20,700 --> 03:20:22,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kailangan pa po ng mas malinaw 3054 03:20:22,700 --> 03:20:24,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na pagpapaliwanag ng batas para po 3055 03:20:24,700 --> 03:20:26,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa ating immigration officer. 3056 03:20:26,700 --> 03:20:28,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: That's why 3057 03:20:28,700 --> 03:20:30,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung ating Bureau of Immigration 3058 03:20:30,700 --> 03:20:32,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: gusto po medyo yung ating 3059 03:20:32,700 --> 03:20:34,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: training for the immigration officers 3060 03:20:34,700 --> 03:20:36,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: at gusto rin po nilang 3061 03:20:36,700 --> 03:20:38,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ma-modernize na rin po yung ating batas 3062 03:20:38,700 --> 03:20:40,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po yung standards po 3063 03:20:40,700 --> 03:20:42,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng ating mga immigration officers 3064 03:20:42,700 --> 03:20:44,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: tumaas na rin po kasi matagal 3065 03:20:44,700 --> 03:20:46,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na po yung batas. 1940s pa po yung 3066 03:20:46,700 --> 03:20:48,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ating batas ng immigration. And hindi pa 3067 03:20:48,700 --> 03:20:50,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na-update? Hindi pa rin po na-update. 3068 03:20:50,700 --> 03:20:52,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So kung kaya po 3069 03:20:52,700 --> 03:20:54,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nating matulungan yung ating 3070 03:20:54,700 --> 03:20:56,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bureau of Immigration, matulungan po natin. 3071 03:20:56,700 --> 03:20:58,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So distinguished sponsor, ang dami po 3072 03:20:58,700 --> 03:21:00,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nating trabaho. Maraming tayo i-update. 3073 03:21:00,700 --> 03:21:02,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So Madam 3074 03:21:02,700 --> 03:21:04,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Speaker, 3075 03:21:04,700 --> 03:21:06,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: siguro hihingi na lang po ako ng 3076 03:21:06,700 --> 03:21:08,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sa DOJ 3077 03:21:08,700 --> 03:21:10,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and its attached 3078 03:21:10,700 --> 03:21:12,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: agencies ng isang 3079 03:21:12,700 --> 03:21:14,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: GAD utilization 3080 03:21:14,700 --> 03:21:16,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and GAD utilization 3081 03:21:16,700 --> 03:21:18,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: report. Tsaka saan po nila ginagamit? 3082 03:21:18,700 --> 03:21:20,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Paano nila ginagamit? 3083 03:21:20,700 --> 03:21:22,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano na lang, hihingi na lang po 3084 03:21:22,700 --> 03:21:24,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ako ng written report. Well, kasi po nilang 3085 03:21:24,700 --> 03:21:26,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: comply po Madam Speaker. 3086 03:21:26,700 --> 03:21:28,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So in closing Madam 3087 03:21:28,700 --> 03:21:30,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Speaker, our questions are really 3088 03:21:30,700 --> 03:21:32,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: intended to identify where Congress 3089 03:21:32,700 --> 03:21:34,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: can help. 3090 03:21:34,700 --> 03:21:36,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Justice delayed affects both 3091 03:21:36,700 --> 03:21:38,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the complainant and 3092 03:21:38,700 --> 03:21:40,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the accused. If DOJ 3093 03:21:40,700 --> 03:21:42,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: needs additional prosecutors, personnel, 3094 03:21:42,700 --> 03:21:44,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: technology, regional 3095 03:21:44,700 --> 03:21:46,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: funding, or greater access to its 3096 03:21:46,700 --> 03:21:48,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: legally earmarked revenues to make the 3097 03:21:48,700 --> 03:21:50,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: system move faster, we would like 3098 03:21:50,700 --> 03:21:52,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: those requirements clearly placed on 3099 03:21:52,700 --> 03:21:54,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: record so Congress can 3100 03:21:54,700 --> 03:21:56,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: consider supporting them. Thank you very much 3101 03:21:56,700 --> 03:21:58,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker. Thank you. 3102 03:21:58,700 --> 03:21:59,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Distinguished sponsor. 3103 03:21:59,980 --> 03:22:00,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 3104 03:22:00,700 --> 03:22:02,700 Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez: Madam Speaker, I move that we 3105 03:22:02,700 --> 03:22:04,700 Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez: recognize the honorable 3106 03:22:04,700 --> 03:22:06,700 Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez: Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela 3107 03:22:06,700 --> 03:22:08,700 Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez: Women's Party for 3108 03:22:08,700 --> 03:22:09,980 Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez: her interpellation. 3109 03:22:09,980 --> 03:22:10,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative 3110 03:22:10,700 --> 03:22:12,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's 3111 03:22:12,700 --> 03:22:14,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Party-list is hereby recognized 3112 03:22:14,700 --> 03:22:16,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: for her interpellation. 3113 03:22:23,400 --> 03:22:26,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker 3114 03:22:26,500 --> 03:22:28,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at magandang hapon sa lahat. 3115 03:22:28,700 --> 03:22:30,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: First, 3116 03:22:30,700 --> 03:22:32,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the Bureau of Corrections submitted its 3117 03:22:32,700 --> 03:22:34,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: report on the cashless 3118 03:22:34,700 --> 03:22:36,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: system being implemented 3119 03:22:36,700 --> 03:22:38,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: across its operating prisons 3120 03:22:38,700 --> 03:22:40,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and penal farms. It also included 3121 03:22:40,700 --> 03:22:42,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: an update on the issue 3122 03:22:42,700 --> 03:22:44,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of missing funds from the 3123 03:22:44,700 --> 03:22:46,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: PDL Trust Fund of the 3124 03:22:46,700 --> 03:22:48,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Correctional Institution for Women. 3125 03:22:48,700 --> 03:22:50,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Based on the final 3126 03:22:50,700 --> 03:22:52,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: audit report from its findings 3127 03:22:52,700 --> 03:22:54,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dated August 26, 3128 03:22:54,700 --> 03:22:56,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2026, 3129 03:22:56,700 --> 03:22:58,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the total amount missing from the 3130 03:22:58,700 --> 03:23:00,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: PDL Trust Fund is 3131 03:23:00,700 --> 03:23:02,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 6,447,[unclear] pesos. 3132 03:23:06,700 --> 03:23:08,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, 3133 03:23:08,700 --> 03:23:10,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: item 7.1 3134 03:23:10,700 --> 03:23:12,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of their guidelines 3135 03:23:12,700 --> 03:23:14,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and procedures 3136 03:23:14,700 --> 03:23:16,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on the operations 3137 03:23:16,700 --> 03:23:18,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and management of the 3138 03:23:18,700 --> 03:23:20,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: inmate post-exchange through cashless 3139 03:23:20,700 --> 03:23:22,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: transactions 3140 03:23:22,700 --> 03:23:24,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: embodied 3141 03:23:24,700 --> 03:23:26,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: in BUC-ODG-MC16 3142 03:23:26,700 --> 03:23:28,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: series of 2024 3143 03:23:28,700 --> 03:23:30,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: indicate 3144 03:23:30,700 --> 03:23:32,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: that periodic reports 3145 03:23:32,700 --> 03:23:34,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: weekly, monthly, 3146 03:23:34,700 --> 03:23:36,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: semi-annually, and annually 3147 03:23:36,700 --> 03:23:38,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: are prepared, submitted 3148 03:23:38,700 --> 03:23:40,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: by the IPEX provider 3149 03:23:40,700 --> 03:23:42,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to the Director 3150 03:23:42,700 --> 03:23:44,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: General of Bucor. 3151 03:23:44,700 --> 03:23:46,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Through the Superintendent of the 3152 03:23:46,700 --> 03:23:48,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Prison or Penal Farm, 3153 03:23:48,700 --> 03:23:50,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the Deputy Director General for 3154 03:23:50,700 --> 03:23:52,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Administration and Director, 3155 03:23:52,700 --> 03:23:54,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Directorate for Controllership. 3156 03:23:54,700 --> 03:23:56,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Now, may we 3157 03:23:56,700 --> 03:23:58,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: know Madam Speaker from the 3158 03:23:58,700 --> 03:24:00,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Distinguished Sponsor, 3159 03:24:00,700 --> 03:24:02,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: are these periodic reports submitted 3160 03:24:02,700 --> 03:24:04,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: regularly by the Superintendent 3161 03:24:04,700 --> 03:24:06,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of the CIW? 3162 03:24:06,700 --> 03:24:08,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Are they submitted weekly, 3163 03:24:08,700 --> 03:24:10,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: monthly, semi-annually, and 3164 03:24:10,700 --> 03:24:12,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: annually as provided 3165 03:24:12,700 --> 03:24:14,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: in their own guidelines? 3166 03:24:14,700 --> 03:24:16,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 3167 03:24:16,700 --> 03:24:18,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: as of now, 3168 03:24:18,700 --> 03:24:20,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hindi pa po, wala pa pong 3169 03:24:20,700 --> 03:24:22,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: periodic reports submitted 3170 03:24:22,700 --> 03:24:24,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: to the BuCor regarding 3171 03:24:24,700 --> 03:24:26,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the IPEX kasi hindi pa po nila 3172 03:24:26,700 --> 03:24:28,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nai-implement fully 3173 03:24:28,700 --> 03:24:30,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: itong cashless na 3174 03:24:30,700 --> 03:24:32,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: programa na 3175 03:24:32,700 --> 03:24:34,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nabanggit po ng ating 3176 03:24:34,700 --> 03:24:36,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague. 3177 03:24:36,700 --> 03:24:38,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So wala pa pong 3178 03:24:38,700 --> 03:24:40,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: periodic reports 3179 03:24:40,700 --> 03:24:42,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: as of now. 3180 03:24:42,700 --> 03:24:44,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, it's been 3181 03:24:44,700 --> 03:24:46,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: two years since these 3182 03:24:46,700 --> 03:24:48,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: guidelines were issued 3183 03:24:48,700 --> 03:24:50,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and I refer 3184 03:24:50,700 --> 03:24:52,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: specifically to the CIW 3185 03:24:52,700 --> 03:24:54,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: where 3186 03:24:54,700 --> 03:24:56,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: this cashless system is already 3187 03:24:56,700 --> 03:24:58,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: being implemented. 3188 03:24:58,700 --> 03:25:00,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So may we know why there 3189 03:25:00,700 --> 03:25:02,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: is no reporting 3190 03:25:02,700 --> 03:25:04,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: or at least monitoring 3191 03:25:04,700 --> 03:25:06,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of this particular 3192 03:25:06,700 --> 03:25:08,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: system? 3193 03:25:17,100 --> 03:25:18,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 3194 03:25:18,700 --> 03:25:20,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kasi po ongoing implementation 3195 03:25:20,300 --> 03:25:21,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pa rin po. 3196 03:25:21,900 --> 03:25:23,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi pa fully digitized 3197 03:25:23,500 --> 03:25:25,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung sistema 3198 03:25:25,100 --> 03:25:26,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung nasaan po yung 3199 03:25:26,700 --> 03:25:28,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ating CIW. 3200 03:25:28,300 --> 03:25:29,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So 3201 03:25:29,900 --> 03:25:31,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: wala pa pong 3202 03:25:31,500 --> 03:25:33,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: periodic reports 3203 03:25:33,100 --> 03:25:34,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: to comply with. 3204 03:25:34,700 --> 03:25:36,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker. 3205 03:25:36,700 --> 03:25:38,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, malinaw 3206 03:25:38,700 --> 03:25:40,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung nakasaad sa guidelines. 3207 03:25:40,700 --> 03:25:42,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bawat linggo, kada buwan, 3208 03:25:42,700 --> 03:25:44,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron pang semi-annually 3209 03:25:44,700 --> 03:25:46,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and annually yan. 3210 03:25:46,700 --> 03:25:48,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya ho maski lang sana 3211 03:25:48,700 --> 03:25:50,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dun sa weekly at monthly, wala pang kahit ano. 3212 03:25:56,700 --> 03:25:58,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, 3213 03:25:58,700 --> 03:26:00,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: after this incident, 3214 03:26:00,700 --> 03:26:02,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung pag-audit po ng 3215 03:26:02,700 --> 03:26:04,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ating Bureau of Corrections 3216 03:26:04,700 --> 03:26:06,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nagiging strikto na po sila 3217 03:26:06,700 --> 03:26:08,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa pag-comply with 3218 03:26:08,700 --> 03:26:10,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the periodic reports, 3219 03:26:10,700 --> 03:26:12,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: weekly and monthly, 3220 03:26:12,700 --> 03:26:14,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung reporting required 3221 03:26:14,700 --> 03:26:16,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: under the circular po. 3222 03:26:16,700 --> 03:26:18,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dapat lang, Madam Speaker, 3223 03:26:18,700 --> 03:26:20,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kasi po yung nangyari nga 3224 03:26:20,700 --> 03:26:22,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na information na 3225 03:26:22,700 --> 03:26:24,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakaalarma sa representasyon na ito 3226 03:26:24,700 --> 03:26:26,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa ating kapulungan 3227 03:26:26,700 --> 03:26:28,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol dito sa nawawalang 3228 03:26:28,700 --> 03:26:30,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: CIW PDL Trust Fund. 3229 03:26:30,700 --> 03:26:32,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para lang bigyan ng 3230 03:26:32,700 --> 03:26:34,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: background ang ating mga kasama 3231 03:26:34,700 --> 03:26:36,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol sa pag-ulat 3232 03:26:36,700 --> 03:26:38,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng concerning matter na ito. 3233 03:26:38,700 --> 03:26:40,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: The PDLs in CIW 3234 03:26:40,700 --> 03:26:42,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: were initially informed 3235 03:26:42,700 --> 03:26:44,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of the missing funds 3236 03:26:44,700 --> 03:26:46,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on July 30, 2026. 3237 03:26:46,700 --> 03:26:48,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: And prior to this, 3238 03:26:54,700 --> 03:26:56,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: iba-iba po yung information 3239 03:26:56,700 --> 03:26:58,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakarating sa mga PDLs. 3240 03:26:58,700 --> 03:27:00,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Batay na rin sa news reports, 3241 03:27:00,700 --> 03:27:02,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: from July 30 ang nawawala 3242 03:27:02,700 --> 03:27:04,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 6 million. 3243 03:27:04,700 --> 03:27:06,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: August 6 naging 7 million. 3244 03:27:06,700 --> 03:27:08,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nung ating budget briefing, 3245 03:27:08,700 --> 03:27:10,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito na po natin nalaman 3246 03:27:10,700 --> 03:27:12,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nasa 6.4 million 3247 03:27:12,700 --> 03:27:14,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga nawawala. 3248 03:27:14,700 --> 03:27:16,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At batay po sa report 3249 03:27:16,700 --> 03:27:18,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na binigay sa atin 3250 03:27:18,700 --> 03:27:20,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng CIW mismo, ng BuCor, 3251 03:27:20,700 --> 03:27:22,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maraming salamat po dito, 3252 03:27:22,700 --> 03:27:24,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makakatulong sa ating pagbabantay. 3253 03:27:24,700 --> 03:27:26,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nakita po nila 3254 03:27:26,700 --> 03:27:28,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na meron nagastos 3255 03:27:28,700 --> 03:27:30,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nasa 3256 03:27:30,700 --> 03:27:32,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 1.293 [unclear] 3257 03:27:32,700 --> 03:27:34,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po sa mga 3258 03:27:34,700 --> 03:27:36,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bagay, mga pasilidad 3259 03:27:36,700 --> 03:27:38,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ginamit ng 3260 03:27:38,700 --> 03:27:40,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ating pampublikong 3261 03:27:40,700 --> 03:27:42,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: institusyon. 3262 03:27:42,700 --> 03:27:44,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sa ngayon po, 3263 03:27:44,700 --> 03:27:46,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ah, 3264 03:27:46,700 --> 03:27:48,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: for the record lang po, 3265 03:27:48,700 --> 03:27:50,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: since nag-iiba-iba 3266 03:27:50,700 --> 03:27:52,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nga yung figure, 3267 03:27:52,700 --> 03:27:54,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: magkano na ba talaga 3268 03:27:54,700 --> 03:27:56,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang nawawalang pera 3269 03:27:56,700 --> 03:27:58,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa trust fund ng PDL 3270 03:27:58,700 --> 03:28:00,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kailangang ibalik ng CIW? 3271 03:28:00,700 --> 03:28:02,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kailangang ibalik ng CIW? 3272 03:28:02,700 --> 03:28:04,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Tama pa rin po ba 3273 03:28:04,700 --> 03:28:06,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung figure na meron tayo? 3274 03:28:06,700 --> 03:28:08,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 6,447, 3275 03:28:08,700 --> 03:28:10,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: [unclear] 3276 03:28:10,700 --> 03:28:12,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pesos? 3277 03:28:14,700 --> 03:28:16,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 3278 03:28:16,700 --> 03:28:18,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hindi pa po final 3279 03:28:18,700 --> 03:28:20,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yan na figure. 3280 03:28:20,700 --> 03:28:22,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They are conducting 3281 03:28:22,700 --> 03:28:24,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: a second investigation 3282 03:28:24,700 --> 03:28:26,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: to fully malaman po 3283 03:28:26,700 --> 03:28:28,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung ano po talaga 3284 03:28:28,700 --> 03:28:30,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: gaano kalaki yung amount 3285 03:28:30,700 --> 03:28:32,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na nawawala, Madam Speaker, 3286 03:28:32,700 --> 03:28:34,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po ma-reconcile 3287 03:28:34,700 --> 03:28:36,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung records rin po 3288 03:28:36,700 --> 03:28:38,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: in the Bureau of Corrections. 3289 03:28:38,700 --> 03:28:40,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, kailan po 3290 03:28:40,700 --> 03:28:42,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin malalaman yung final 3291 03:28:42,700 --> 03:28:44,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nabilang? Ano po ang 3292 03:28:44,700 --> 03:28:46,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: timeline ng BuCor 3293 03:28:46,700 --> 03:28:48,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagdating sa investigation na ito? 3294 03:28:48,700 --> 03:28:50,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At bukod po sa investigation, 3295 03:28:50,700 --> 03:28:52,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron na rin ba silang 3296 03:28:52,700 --> 03:28:54,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: isinagawang consultation 3297 03:28:54,700 --> 03:28:56,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para malaman naman po 3298 03:28:56,700 --> 03:28:58,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano ito makakaapekto 3299 03:28:58,700 --> 03:29:00,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kalagayan mismo ng 3300 03:29:00,700 --> 03:29:02,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga PDL sa CIW? 3301 03:29:02,700 --> 03:29:04,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So meron na po palang 3302 03:29:04,700 --> 03:29:06,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: final amount. Ang final 3303 03:29:06,700 --> 03:29:08,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: amount po ay 6.2? 3304 03:29:08,700 --> 03:29:10,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 6,230,390 3305 03:29:10,700 --> 03:29:12,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pesos and 3306 03:29:12,700 --> 03:29:14,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 44 centavos po 3307 03:29:14,700 --> 03:29:16,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung total 3308 03:29:16,700 --> 03:29:18,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: balance po 3309 03:29:18,700 --> 03:29:20,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na 3310 03:29:20,700 --> 03:29:23,340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nawawala. 3311 03:29:23,340 --> 03:29:24,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, 3312 03:29:24,700 --> 03:29:26,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: meron na rin 3313 03:29:26,700 --> 03:29:28,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po silang 3314 03:29:28,700 --> 03:29:30,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: listahan po 3315 03:29:30,700 --> 03:29:32,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung sino 3316 03:29:32,700 --> 03:29:34,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po yung 3317 03:29:34,700 --> 03:29:36,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: may mga 3318 03:29:36,700 --> 03:29:38,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: highest 3319 03:29:38,700 --> 03:29:40,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: balances na 3320 03:29:48,700 --> 03:29:50,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: meron na pong breakdown 3321 03:29:50,700 --> 03:29:52,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung sino po yung 3322 03:29:52,700 --> 03:29:54,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga nawawalan ng amount, 3323 03:29:54,700 --> 03:29:56,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker 3324 03:29:56,700 --> 03:29:58,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and distinguished colleague. 3325 03:29:58,700 --> 03:30:00,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague. 3326 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:11,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So may breakdown na po. If our distinguished colleague would like a copy of the breakdown, we would like to give it to our distinguished colleague, Madam Speaker. 3327 03:30:12,240 --> 03:30:19,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. And may we also know what are the internal audit service unit findings on the causes of discrepancy? 3328 03:30:20,380 --> 03:30:26,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Is this accounting error, negligence, unauthorized withdrawals, misuse theft, or other factors? 3329 03:30:26,820 --> 03:30:35,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, halo-halo na po yung factors kung bakit po nangyari po ito. 3330 03:30:35,240 --> 03:30:40,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung recording po, yung handling po ng ating mga trust fund officers, lalo na. 3331 03:30:41,220 --> 03:30:54,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: That's why, because of this incident, may mga pinursu po na cases against those individuals involved in the mismanagement of the said amount. 3332 03:30:55,920 --> 03:30:56,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker. 3333 03:30:56,820 --> 03:31:04,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, pwede rin bang maibigay ng ating distinguished sponsor kung magkano na ngayon yung total unaccounted money? 3334 03:31:04,620 --> 03:31:15,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasi po nagbago po yung sinabi ninyong nawawala, missing. So magbabago rin po yung kung magkano na yung total unaccounted money? 3335 03:31:15,340 --> 03:31:26,340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So 6,230,390 pesos and 44 cents po yung exact amount na nawawala. 3336 03:31:26,820 --> 03:31:39,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Opo. Ilan po dyan yung unaccounted? Kasi po sa inyong report, merong missing pero nagastos na sa iba't ibang kadahilanan at meron din pong unaccounted. 3337 03:31:40,300 --> 03:31:45,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ibig sabihin, hindi po talaga alam kung saan ginasto, saan napunta. 3338 03:31:46,760 --> 03:31:53,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So ito na po yung total, Madam Speaker, yung 6.2. Lahat na po ito. 3339 03:31:54,400 --> 03:31:54,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes. 3340 03:31:55,360 --> 03:31:56,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yan din po yung sinabi natin. 3341 03:31:56,820 --> 03:32:04,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yan kanina na figure nasa 6.4 pero na-correct na po tayo nasa 6.2 yung missing. 3342 03:32:04,840 --> 03:32:08,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero ang tinatanong ko po yung hindi ma-account na pera. 3343 03:32:09,080 --> 03:32:15,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So ma-minus po natin yung mga nakita niyong pinagkagastusan at makukuha po natin yung unaccounted money. 3344 03:32:16,560 --> 03:32:21,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nakupunin na lang po natin yung exact figure from our distinguished sponsor and Bucor. 3345 03:32:21,120 --> 03:32:23,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero ang nais po sana nating malaman, 3346 03:32:23,800 --> 03:32:28,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: habang tuloy-tuloy po yung investigation na ginagawa natin, 3347 03:32:28,880 --> 03:32:37,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kailan po ba maibabalik sa normal yung sistema ng withdrawal sa loob ng CIW? 3348 03:32:38,640 --> 03:32:43,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Habang ginagawa niyo ngayon yung mga pag-i-investiga sa mga dapat managot. 3349 03:32:49,140 --> 03:32:53,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So Madam Speaker, tuloy-tuloy pa rin naman po yung sistema ng withdrawal. 3350 03:32:53,800 --> 03:32:54,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The CIW. 3351 03:32:56,400 --> 03:33:06,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Subject to the timing lang po nung withdrawal, Madam Speaker, which is once a week or twice a week. 3352 03:33:07,880 --> 03:33:12,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, this representation has likewise received reports 3353 03:33:12,560 --> 03:33:19,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: that after the disclosure of the millions of pesos of missing funds for the PDL Trust Fund, 3354 03:33:19,460 --> 03:33:23,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the PDLs have been having a hard time withdrawing or accessing the money. 3355 03:33:23,800 --> 03:33:29,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: In their accounts, before, like what the distinguished sponsor said, 3356 03:33:30,040 --> 03:33:32,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the PDLs were allowed to withdraw three times a week 3357 03:33:32,660 --> 03:33:37,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: with a maximum of 1,000 pesos per withdrawal 3358 03:33:37,640 --> 03:33:41,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and a total allowable weekly withdrawal of 2,000 pesos. 3359 03:33:43,180 --> 03:33:51,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: In recent experiences po, they said that these withdrawals have become erratic and irregular, yung policies. 3360 03:33:51,020 --> 03:33:53,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So naayos na po ba ito sa ngayon? 3361 03:33:53,800 --> 03:33:56,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nakarating po ba sa office ng ating Director General? 3362 03:33:59,240 --> 03:34:03,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Nakarating na po yung mga gantong reports sa ating Bureau of Corrections. 3363 03:34:04,420 --> 03:34:10,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They're inaayos na po nila yung ganitong mga sistema 3364 03:34:10,260 --> 03:34:16,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: at pinapabalik na po sa normal na withdrawal po yung ating mga PDLs. 3365 03:34:17,880 --> 03:34:21,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maasahan po ba natin, Madam Speaker, na sa linggong ito, maaayos na po 3366 03:34:21,880 --> 03:34:23,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung sistema na ito ng withdrawal? 3367 03:34:23,800 --> 03:34:25,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bababalik doon sa dati? 3368 03:34:25,840 --> 03:34:35,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po. The Bureau of Corrections are guaranteeing that they will go back to the standard system po ng ating withdrawal. 3369 03:34:37,240 --> 03:34:41,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Magandang balita po na bababalik na yung dating sistema ng withdrawal. 3370 03:34:41,920 --> 03:34:48,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero mas magandang balita po sana kung magkakaroon na ng update tungkol naman doon sa restoration 3371 03:34:48,120 --> 03:34:52,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng nawawala na pera sa PDL Trust Fund. 3372 03:34:52,200 --> 03:34:53,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron na po ba kayong petsa 3373 03:34:53,800 --> 03:34:57,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung kailan ito matitiyak na maibabalik? 3374 03:34:57,440 --> 03:35:28,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, may update po ngayong araw. As we are informed, meron pong confiscated na pera ang BuCor, about 6 million in confiscated money na pinag-aaralan po nila na baka po pwedeng iyon yung gamitin to revert. 3375 03:35:29,120 --> 03:35:34,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kung yun po yung pwedeng gamitin na maipangbayad sa mga nawawalan po ng amount 3376 03:35:34,120 --> 03:35:38,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kasi wala pong nagkiklaim nung confiscated money na yun. 3377 03:35:38,280 --> 03:35:44,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So sa ngayon po, undergoing legal study po yung paggamit po nung pera ngayon. 3378 03:35:47,100 --> 03:35:49,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dapat talaga maimbestigahan po yan, Madam Speaker, 3379 03:35:49,360 --> 03:35:52,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kasi nakakahinala naman po na may biglang sumulpot na ganyan. 3380 03:35:52,840 --> 03:35:53,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa panahon na... 3381 03:35:53,800 --> 03:36:00,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Napaka-init po ng issue na ito na nananawagan po tayo ng patas na investigasyon, 3382 03:36:00,600 --> 03:36:07,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng malinaw na sistema at may malinaw na mananagot kapag may ganitong tipo ng mga issue. 3383 03:36:07,880 --> 03:36:15,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Chair, nanggaling din po sa ating plenary deliberations ang Commission on Human Rights 3384 03:36:15,080 --> 03:36:22,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at nagbigay po sila ng update tungkol dito sa nawawalang pondo sa Trust Fund sa CIW. 3385 03:36:22,680 --> 03:36:23,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sinabi po nila, 3386 03:36:23,800 --> 03:36:33,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ilang beses daw po sila na nagtangka po at nagplano na bumisita sa CIW 3387 03:36:34,320 --> 03:36:38,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para mag-conduct ng kanilang independent investigation. 3388 03:36:38,560 --> 03:36:42,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit ang kanila pong ulat ay hindi po sila pinapapasok sa CIW. 3389 03:36:43,480 --> 03:36:47,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari bang magbigay ng paglilinaw ang ating distinguished sponsor tungkol dito? 3390 03:36:53,800 --> 03:37:19,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, as per sa ating Bureau of Corrections, 3391 03:37:19,860 --> 03:37:23,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: may coordination naman po with CIW and the Commission on Human Rights. 3392 03:37:23,800 --> 03:37:28,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Regarding this matter, kung nagkaproblema man daw po, 3393 03:37:28,980 --> 03:37:37,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang malaking factor po daw ay yung pagdating kung kailan po dumating ang ating mga kawanimula po 3394 03:37:37,880 --> 03:37:41,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: galing sa Commission on Human Rights. Madam Speaker. 3395 03:37:42,800 --> 03:37:45,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pwede ba natin malaman Madam Speaker kung ano po yung problema na yun? 3396 03:37:46,840 --> 03:37:53,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po ba pag may visitation ng CHR para mag-imbestiga tungkol sa mga potensyal na, 3397 03:37:53,800 --> 03:37:59,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: paglabag sa karapatang pantao, at anytime, na dapat po payagan po sila na makapasok? 3398 03:38:03,680 --> 03:38:12,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As per our Bureau of Corrections, bandang hapon daw po dumating ang ating mga taga-CHR. 3399 03:38:13,940 --> 03:38:17,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Meron pong oras na sinusunod yung ating mga PDLs. 3400 03:38:18,800 --> 03:38:23,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So kaya daw po, hindi po muna pinapasok ang ating mga ka-PDLs. 3401 03:38:23,800 --> 03:38:27,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang kawanimula po sa Commission on Human Rights. 3402 03:38:27,560 --> 03:38:35,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero ang ating pong Bureau of Corrections are willing na makipagtulungan po sa ating pong CHR. 3403 03:38:36,440 --> 03:38:40,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ayaw naman po nilang i-undermine yung kapangyarihan ng ating pong Commission on Human Rights. 3404 03:38:42,360 --> 03:38:50,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Lalo na po doon sa unannounced visits sa ating pong mga penal farms. 3405 03:38:50,320 --> 03:38:53,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So ang request lang, 3406 03:38:53,800 --> 03:38:56,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang request lang rin po ng Bureau of Corrections, lalo na ay yung, 3407 03:38:58,760 --> 03:39:00,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: siguro may mga safeguards rin po. 3408 03:39:01,440 --> 03:39:06,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Siyempre may security concern rin po silang, 3409 03:39:07,620 --> 03:39:09,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: gustong masunod rin po. 3410 03:39:09,920 --> 03:39:11,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, disengish ko ulit. 3411 03:39:12,280 --> 03:39:17,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, may kopya po tayo ng sulat ng Bucor para po sa CHR. 3412 03:39:17,880 --> 03:39:23,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Tungkol sa request ng CHR para sa dialogue sa mga PDLs sa CIW. 3413 03:39:23,800 --> 03:39:27,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At may sinasabi po dito ang Bucor na, 3414 03:39:29,340 --> 03:39:31,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and let me just read this for the record. 3415 03:39:33,520 --> 03:39:37,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Considering Data Privacy Act and based from the 2024 Bucor Manual, 3416 03:39:38,220 --> 03:39:46,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: there is a need for the requesting party to identify specifically the name, names of PDL subject for a dialogue interview 3417 03:39:46,260 --> 03:39:50,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: for us to secure the consent from the identified PDL. 3418 03:39:50,920 --> 03:39:53,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we know the particular provision? 3419 03:39:53,800 --> 03:39:59,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: In the Data Privacy Act as well as the 2024 Bucor Manual, 3420 03:39:59,500 --> 03:40:04,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: which formed the basis of this particular statement? 3421 03:40:45,070 --> 03:40:48,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So ang protocol daw po sa ating Bureau of Corrections is 3422 03:40:48,280 --> 03:40:58,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kailangan po magpaalam po sa ating PDL kung gusto rin po nilang makipag-usap sa ating mga ibat-ibang gusto mag-interview po sa kanila. 3423 03:40:59,640 --> 03:41:02,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero as for kung meron pong... 3424 03:41:10,280 --> 03:41:16,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As for yung visitation manual po nila for PDLs, 3425 03:41:16,480 --> 03:41:18,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: meron po kasing sinusunod na... 3426 03:41:18,280 --> 03:41:26,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: oras sa kanilang manual Wednesday to Sunday, 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. daw po 3427 03:41:26,260 --> 03:41:31,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang ating pong visiting hours according to the Bureau of Corrections manual po. 3428 03:41:33,240 --> 03:41:37,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Tama po ba yung rinig ko kailangan pong magpaalam ng CHR sa Bucor 3429 03:41:37,020 --> 03:41:41,950 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para gawin yung kanilang constitutional duty? 3430 03:41:41,950 --> 03:41:43,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ah, hindi naman po kailangang 3431 03:41:44,880 --> 03:41:46,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: magpaalam po ang 3432 03:41:48,280 --> 03:41:52,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Commission on Human Rights to investigate, Madam Speaker. 3433 03:41:53,280 --> 03:41:57,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang close coordination lang po with the Bucor is enough 3434 03:41:57,280 --> 03:42:00,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: because may mga security concerns nga po. 3435 03:42:01,300 --> 03:42:06,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May instance nga daw po kasi na may mga po mapasok nagpapanggap. 3436 03:42:06,560 --> 03:42:10,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yun po yung nabanggit po ng ating pong Director General, Madam Speaker. 3437 03:42:11,820 --> 03:42:14,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat sa paglilinaw, Madam Speaker. 3438 03:42:15,380 --> 03:42:17,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sana po hindi na maulit ito. 3439 03:42:17,400 --> 03:42:18,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasi hindi lang... 3440 03:42:18,120 --> 03:42:22,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi lang daw po isang beses na sumubok na magbisita ang CHR, 3441 03:42:23,040 --> 03:42:24,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kundi po tatlong beses. 3442 03:42:24,440 --> 03:42:27,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya sana po magkaroon ng mas mahigpit na coordination 3443 03:42:27,740 --> 03:42:32,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para lamang po dun sa interest ng katotohanan 3444 03:42:32,100 --> 03:42:39,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa interest ng pananagutan pagdating po sa napakahalaga na matter na ito. 3445 03:42:39,920 --> 03:42:40,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, 3446 03:42:41,040 --> 03:42:43,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pwede ba natin kunin yung commitment ng Bucor 3447 03:42:43,920 --> 03:42:47,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil po sa marami pang hindi nasusunod na mga... 3448 03:42:48,120 --> 03:42:51,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dapat, no, katulad sa reporting, monitoring, 3449 03:42:52,080 --> 03:42:56,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may nakita tayong mga gaps pa sa mga proseso kung paano natin matipiyak 3450 03:42:56,860 --> 03:43:02,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng sistema na ito ay hindi po makukorup, hindi mawawala. 3451 03:43:03,180 --> 03:43:09,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pwede bang ma-review natin itong sistema, itong guidelines na ito tungkol sa cashless system? 3452 03:43:09,900 --> 03:43:14,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bukod dyan, Madam Speaker, maaari din na sa lalong madaling panahon. 3453 03:43:15,120 --> 03:43:18,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sinabi nyo nga po may development sa CIW. 3454 03:43:18,120 --> 03:43:20,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ay ma-restore na dun sa dating sistema muna 3455 03:43:20,840 --> 03:43:27,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: habang nag-iimbestiga kayo at habang nire-review ninyo itong cashless system. 3456 03:43:27,080 --> 03:43:33,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang kinababahala ng representasyon na ito, Madam Speaker, sa CIW pa lang ito. 3457 03:43:33,220 --> 03:43:38,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So paano po, sana naman po hindi na hindi dapat ito nangyayari 3458 03:43:38,740 --> 03:43:41,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kahit saan nating prison and penal terms. 3459 03:43:43,040 --> 03:43:47,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So they are committed to reviewing the policy on the cashless system po. 3460 03:43:48,120 --> 03:43:55,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Any suggestions or comments regarding that system are welcome po sa ating Bureau of Corrections 3461 03:43:55,220 --> 03:44:01,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and they are committed na hindi na po maulit yung ganitong insidente with the Commission on Human Rights. 3462 03:44:01,940 --> 03:44:07,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Basta ang request nga lang po, basta regarding security concern, ma-address po nilang dalawa. 3463 03:44:07,680 --> 03:44:10,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Close coordination with the Commission on Human Rights. 3464 03:44:10,680 --> 03:44:17,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And nagpa-audit na rin po ang ating Bureau of Corrections regarding, 3465 03:44:18,120 --> 03:44:24,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung may ganitong incident sa other penal firms para po maiwasan na yung ganitong mga klaseng insidente. 3466 03:44:24,520 --> 03:44:32,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, at ating aabangan yung risulta ng internal audit service na yan. 3467 03:44:32,560 --> 03:44:37,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po, at tungkol naman po sa ibang mahalaga din na usapin, 3468 03:44:38,080 --> 03:44:41,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol po sa legal assistance para sa child support cases. 3469 03:44:42,980 --> 03:44:45,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung maari po nating matanong ang Public Attorney's Office, 3470 03:44:46,600 --> 03:44:48,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: how many cases for child support? 3471 03:44:48,120 --> 03:44:50,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: What is PAO currently handling? 3472 03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:12,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now po, Madam Speaker, there is no data regarding child support cases pero parang sa VAUSI po talaga yung kanilang data. 3473 03:45:13,480 --> 03:45:14,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker. 3474 03:45:14,620 --> 03:45:15,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi po siya broken down. 3475 03:45:16,360 --> 03:45:26,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pahingin na lang po natin yung ulat kapag nagawa na po ito ng PAO dahil kami rin po ay nagsulunsad ngayon ng Pambansang Review ng Anti-Violence Against Women and Their Children. 3476 03:45:26,060 --> 03:45:37,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At marami po sa mga usapin ng mga nagiging biktima, survivors natin ay may kinalaman sa child support, kasama na ang spousal support. 3477 03:45:38,400 --> 03:45:49,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya nais ko rin pong magtanong, dahil ang Pilipinas po ay nag-gratify ng Convention on the International Recovery of Child Support and Other Forms of Family Maintenance, 3478 03:45:50,280 --> 03:45:55,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron din po bang nahahawakan ng mga kaso ang PAO na may kinalaman sa demand for child support? 3479 03:45:56,060 --> 03:46:02,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At family maintenance mula po sa mga Pilipinos na nagtatrabaho at nakatira overseas? 3480 03:46:05,840 --> 03:46:10,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: O nanggaling naman po sa mga foreigners outside of the Philippines? 3481 03:46:22,480 --> 03:46:24,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, shinees colleague. 3482 03:46:25,240 --> 03:46:25,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Naka-lumped. 3483 03:46:25,840 --> 03:46:29,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Summum na po kasi yung data na yan sa BAUSI cases. 3484 03:46:31,100 --> 03:46:41,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, hindi po nila nabre-breakdown pa kung sino po yung nag-a-avail ng ganitong klaseng assistance with regard to child support in international cases. 3485 03:46:43,200 --> 03:46:53,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, tayo po ay mag-initiate ng dialogo sa PAO at tungkol dito at sa mga relevant agencies natin, lalo na sa Central Authority natin dito, ang DSWD. 3486 03:46:53,920 --> 03:47:05,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So, para matiyak na ang mga konbensyon na kung saan tayo ay kasama, ay talagang natitiyak natin na nai-enforce, may maayos na implementasyon dito sa ating bansa. 3487 03:47:06,360 --> 03:47:11,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At kung meron po kayong mga pinakahuling ulat tungkol dito, ay tatanggapin po ng ating representasyon. 3488 03:47:12,800 --> 03:47:19,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, pinakahuli ko po na ilalapit at ihahapag sa Department of Justice 3489 03:47:19,300 --> 03:47:23,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol po sa nakalaan na 90 million pesos. 3490 03:47:23,920 --> 03:47:31,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 90 million pesos noong 2024 para sa agricultural camp for children in conflict with the law. 3491 03:47:33,000 --> 03:47:43,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari po ba natin malaman mula sa Bucor kung ano na po ang status ng sinasagawa na ito o tinatayo na ito na the agri-camp 3492 03:47:43,860 --> 03:47:47,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ayon sa ating Juvenile Justice and Welfare Act. 3493 03:47:53,920 --> 03:48:17,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, ongoing po sa ngayon ang agricultural camp. 3494 03:48:18,100 --> 03:48:23,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ito turn over pa lang po sa Bucor ang kampong ito kapag natapos na. 3495 03:48:23,920 --> 03:48:33,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero ang main agency po na humahawak po sa pag-implement po nito ay DSWD, funding from the DPWH po. 3496 03:48:35,300 --> 03:48:42,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: During the DSWD budget briefing, Madam Speaker, this representation has also manifested its misgivings 3497 03:48:42,420 --> 03:48:52,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on the construction of an agri-camp within the Iwahit penal farm as it may create stigma and bias against the CICLs 3498 03:48:52,600 --> 03:48:59,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: who, under the juvenile justice system, should be rehabilitated, not put in prison. 3499 03:48:59,920 --> 03:49:05,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Narilis ko po itong concern na ito kasi pinaliwanag din po sa akin ng DSWD na malaki yung lupa, malaki po yung area. 3500 03:49:06,360 --> 03:49:13,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero yung mismo pong pagkakadikit noong facility for children doon sa pangalan mismo ng Iwahit, 3501 03:49:14,180 --> 03:49:20,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: baari na pong mag-create talaga ng stigma at mag-sponsor ng bias against them. 3502 03:49:20,720 --> 03:49:21,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: No, kaya po. 3503 03:49:21,980 --> 03:49:22,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sana. 3504 03:49:22,600 --> 03:49:26,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po ma-address ng DOJ at ng BUCOR ang concern na ito. 3505 03:49:27,260 --> 03:49:34,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang pakipag-upuan, nakausap na rin po namin ang Council for the Welfare of Children at ang JJWC tungkol sa concern na ito 3506 03:49:34,640 --> 03:49:37,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kung paano po natin isa sa ayos. 3507 03:49:38,160 --> 03:49:43,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi lang yung concern tungkol sa bias, pero yung concern din tungkol sa visitation ng family, 3508 03:49:44,100 --> 03:49:49,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng kanilang mga kakilala, na kung nag-iisa lang po yan at napakalayo, hindi po magiging ganun kadali. 3509 03:49:49,780 --> 03:49:51,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: No, para yung mga bata. 3510 03:49:51,420 --> 03:49:58,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ay tuloy-tuloy po yung kanilang support system mula naman sa labas ng camp, ng agri-camp na ito. 3511 03:49:59,240 --> 03:50:09,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nananawagan din po tayo sa kapulungan na ito na agaran ng tignan yung mga naiulat sa atin na gaps sa implementation ng JJWA. 3512 03:50:09,940 --> 03:50:20,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil malinaw po na marami pang hindi napapatupad ng mga probisyon, bukod dyan marami pang pondo na kinakailangan para matiyak na yung mga mahalagang programa for rehabilitation, 3513 03:50:20,420 --> 03:50:24,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay nabibigyan ng sapat na pondo. 3514 03:50:24,420 --> 03:50:27,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At bilang pang huli, mag-i-request din po ang aming representation. 3515 03:50:28,120 --> 03:50:36,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sana makapag-arrange po muli ang kongreso kasama ang mga child rights advocates ng ocular inspection sa facility. 3516 03:50:36,940 --> 03:50:42,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At matiyak po natin na magiging tunay na child-friendly ang facility na ito. 3517 03:50:42,520 --> 03:50:46,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At tunay na facility para po sa hustisya. 3518 03:50:46,180 --> 03:50:48,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming maraming salamat Madam Speaker. 3519 03:50:48,540 --> 03:50:50,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat sa Distinguished Sponsor. 3520 03:50:50,420 --> 03:50:51,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa DOJ Bucor. 3521 03:50:51,860 --> 03:50:54,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa PAO at sa lahat po ang mga kasama natin ngayong araw. 3522 03:50:55,100 --> 03:50:56,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you Madam Speaker. 3523 03:50:56,260 --> 03:50:57,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you Distinguished Colleague. 3524 03:50:57,620 --> 03:50:58,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Welcome na welcome daw po. 3525 03:50:59,020 --> 03:50:59,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Sabi po ng Bucor. 3526 03:51:01,120 --> 03:51:03,820 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Thank you Representative Elago, Majority Leader. 3527 03:51:04,460 --> 03:51:08,440 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Tino to interpolate the sponsor. 3528 03:51:09,060 --> 03:51:14,220 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Antonio Tino of ACT Teacher's Partylist is hereby recognized for his interpolation. 3529 03:51:20,420 --> 03:51:22,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you Madam Speaker. 3530 03:51:22,420 --> 03:51:31,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, before I begin with my interpolation, I would like to make a clarificatory statement on the record. 3531 03:51:31,100 --> 03:51:49,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Earlier in my interpolation of the MMDA, I asserted that the controversial July 14 post regarding the giving of a ticket to a teacher 3532 03:51:49,100 --> 03:51:52,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: was posted on the website of MMDA. 3533 03:51:53,520 --> 03:51:59,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I stand corrected, Madam Speaker, it is not in fact posted on the website 3534 03:51:59,640 --> 03:52:05,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and it is correct that it was only posted on the personal blog, on a personal blog. 3535 03:52:06,580 --> 03:52:16,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So with that, I apologize to the Chair, Chairman Artes, and to the MMDA for making that wrong claim. 3536 03:52:16,200 --> 03:52:19,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let that be on the record, Madam Speaker. 3537 03:52:19,100 --> 03:52:20,100 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Really noted. 3538 03:52:20,100 --> 03:52:21,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you. 3539 03:52:21,100 --> 03:52:24,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now let me proceed with my interpolation. 3540 03:52:24,100 --> 03:52:29,100 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Before you proceed, I'd like to request the technical team to revert back the time. 3541 03:52:29,100 --> 03:52:32,100 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Because this was not part of your interpolation. 3542 03:52:32,100 --> 03:52:33,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you. 3543 03:52:33,100 --> 03:52:35,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. 3544 03:52:35,100 --> 03:52:39,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright, now to the interpolation of the DOJ. 3545 03:52:44,100 --> 03:52:48,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: My questions, first of all, have to do with confidential funds. 3546 03:52:49,100 --> 03:52:55,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The documents of the Department of Justice and the attached agencies. 3547 03:52:55,100 --> 03:53:04,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So I have a graphic, kung pwede pong ipakita. 3548 03:53:04,100 --> 03:53:06,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan. 3549 03:53:06,100 --> 03:53:14,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, dun po mas sa itaas. 3550 03:53:14,100 --> 03:53:28,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For, at ang pinakamataas po na appropriation for confidential funds ng Department of Justice 3551 03:53:28,100 --> 03:53:34,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: was 1.91 billion pesos in 2025. 3552 03:53:35,100 --> 03:53:36,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For, 3553 03:53:36,100 --> 03:53:46,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for, 3554 03:53:46,100 --> 03:53:57,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a 10-year period from 2016 to 2027, and that is shown in the bar chart, bar, 3555 03:53:57,100 --> 03:54:01,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yeah, the bar chart on the screen, 3556 03:54:01,100 --> 03:54:06,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a total of 4.93 billion has been appropriated 3557 03:54:06,100 --> 03:54:12,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the DOJ, DOJ-wide, 3558 03:54:12,100 --> 03:54:17,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and that includes the proposed for 2027. 3559 03:54:17,100 --> 03:54:19,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright. 3560 03:54:19,100 --> 03:54:27,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, ito po yung mas siguro, mas madaling maintindihan yung visualization. 3561 03:54:27,100 --> 03:54:34,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, binalikan po natin, the past 10 years, yung mga appropriations, 3562 03:54:34,100 --> 03:54:37,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o, blue is NEP. 3563 03:54:37,100 --> 03:54:45,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Um, orange is enacted in the GAA and the green obligated. 3564 03:54:46,100 --> 03:54:47,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung actual. 3565 03:54:47,100 --> 03:54:50,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, yung actual na natanggap at ginastos. 3566 03:54:51,100 --> 03:54:52,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No. 3567 03:54:52,100 --> 03:54:54,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, uh, for the most part, 3568 03:54:54,100 --> 03:54:55,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung inkilin 3569 03:54:55,880 --> 03:54:57,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the actual, uh, 3570 03:54:58,100 --> 03:55:00,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, very close to each other. 3571 03:55:00,100 --> 03:55:03,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May, there was only one instance where 3572 03:55:03,100 --> 03:55:14,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that is the year 2022, you can see 2022, where the actual exceeded the appropriations. 3573 03:55:16,220 --> 03:55:23,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig sabihin, mas nadagdagan pa, possibly ibig sabihin nun na augment, augment from savings. 3574 03:55:23,540 --> 03:55:38,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. But what is notable in this presentation is that in 2016, the level of appropriations for confidential funds was 259 million. 3575 03:55:40,280 --> 03:55:46,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And there was some growth throughout the years, pero hindi ganun kalaki. 3576 03:55:46,060 --> 03:55:53,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. We do notice, however, that starting with this administration, the Marcos Jr. administration, 3577 03:55:53,540 --> 03:56:05,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay naging significant na po ang paglaki ng confidential funds para sa Department of Justice across all agencies. 3578 03:56:07,360 --> 03:56:17,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakita po natin, in 2023, the proposed confidential funds was 383 million. 3579 03:56:17,120 --> 03:56:23,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, it was Congress that made instructions. 3580 03:56:23,540 --> 03:56:26,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: An institutional amendment to increase it. 3581 03:56:27,580 --> 03:56:37,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya practically doble ang inilaki, naging 722 million, of which 700 million was actually used. 3582 03:56:40,120 --> 03:56:47,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Then, so ang unang nagpalaki po ay ang administrasyon ito, and it was through Congress. 3583 03:56:48,240 --> 03:56:52,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, in particular, in 2025, we see a... 3584 03:56:53,540 --> 03:57:03,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dramatic, a huge rise in the level of confidential funds for the Department of Justice, 2025 po ito. 3585 03:57:03,040 --> 03:57:09,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The proposed was 579 million in the NEP. 3586 03:57:10,120 --> 03:57:17,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung pinasan ng Kongreso sa GAA, 1.91 billion times 4. Times 4. Ang laki. 3587 03:57:18,620 --> 03:57:21,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At halos lahat yun, mukha, ay ginastos. 3588 03:57:21,960 --> 03:57:22,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3589 03:57:23,540 --> 03:57:29,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, we see the same pattern, although hindi kasing laki, nung 2026. 3590 03:57:29,500 --> 03:57:31,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito, the current fiscal year. 3591 03:57:31,700 --> 03:57:37,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang proposed 579, ang in-approve ng Kongreso, doble. 3592 03:57:38,800 --> 03:57:41,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Almost doble, 1.07 billion. 3593 03:57:42,560 --> 03:57:51,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And now, the proposed for 2027 is 579 million again, same level as this year. 3594 03:57:53,540 --> 03:57:59,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, ang tanong ngayon sa Kongreso, following recent patterns, dodoblehin na naman po ba yan? 3595 03:58:00,700 --> 03:58:00,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3596 03:58:02,220 --> 03:58:03,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baka pwedeng tanong natin. 3597 03:58:03,640 --> 03:58:08,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, ngayon, sasabihin, Kongreso ang gumawa niyan, Kongreso. 3598 03:58:09,080 --> 03:58:17,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero alam naman natin, yung Kongreso ay umaakto batay sa request ng agency. 3599 03:58:17,660 --> 03:58:19,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba, ganun ang patakaran ng BARC. 3600 03:58:20,820 --> 03:58:23,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para ma-increase ito, it has to be. 3601 03:58:23,400 --> 03:58:24,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It has to be an institutional amendment. 3602 03:58:25,160 --> 03:58:33,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And the Congress, the BARC only acts on official requests coming from the agency itself. 3603 03:58:33,280 --> 03:58:40,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in other words, yung nangyari nung, pwede natin sabihin, nangyari nung 2025, 2026, 3604 03:58:41,280 --> 03:58:47,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay humingi ng dagdag ang department sa mga ito. 3605 03:58:47,720 --> 03:58:53,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang tanong ko po, meron na naman po ba ang request for additional? 3606 03:58:53,400 --> 03:58:59,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Confidential funds ang DOJ for 2027? 3607 03:59:01,120 --> 03:59:07,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker, it is initially meron po, to keep it at the same level lang po as of that 2026 level. 3608 03:59:08,260 --> 03:59:15,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, meaning to say, gustong dagdagan muli at gawing 1.07 billion. Ganun po ba? 3609 03:59:18,080 --> 03:59:19,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As for... 3610 03:59:20,240 --> 03:59:21,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun ang ibig sabihin nun. 3611 03:59:21,280 --> 03:59:23,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker. 3612 03:59:23,400 --> 03:59:31,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung request po nila, for OSEC proper, 214 million po kasi yung 2026. 3613 03:59:31,900 --> 03:59:38,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang gusto lang po ng Department of Justice is to keep it at the same level of 214. 3614 03:59:40,340 --> 03:59:40,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, okay. 3615 03:59:41,540 --> 03:59:42,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, we also have... 3616 03:59:44,920 --> 03:59:48,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May tables pa po tayo per department. 3617 03:59:48,260 --> 03:59:49,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: If you scroll down. 3618 03:59:50,240 --> 03:59:52,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung OSEC, yun na po ang sinasabi nyo. 3619 03:59:52,540 --> 03:59:53,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gusto nilang ma-increase. 3620 03:59:53,400 --> 04:00:00,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, according to the data here, for 2026, the enacted... 3621 04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:03,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For the Office of the Secretary was P730 million. 3622 04:00:06,200 --> 04:00:06,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di po ba? 3623 04:00:08,720 --> 04:00:09,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026. 3624 04:00:16,560 --> 04:00:21,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, the breakdown is, 3625 04:00:22,500 --> 04:00:28,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: OSEC proper po ay P214,471,000, 3626 04:00:28,920 --> 04:00:29,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the witness protection. 3627 04:00:30,120 --> 04:00:31,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: P500 million. 3628 04:00:31,840 --> 04:00:33,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yakat, P10 million. 3629 04:00:34,640 --> 04:00:37,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Office of Cybercrime, P475,000. 3630 04:00:37,300 --> 04:00:37,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ah, okay. 3631 04:00:38,040 --> 04:00:40,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: NCCO, SISAM, is at P5 million po. 3632 04:00:40,660 --> 04:00:40,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3633 04:00:41,720 --> 04:00:44,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But those all fall under the Office of the Secretary? 3634 04:00:49,180 --> 04:00:50,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, Madam Secretary. 3635 04:00:50,380 --> 04:00:50,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. 3636 04:00:51,180 --> 04:00:52,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya po, pag tinotal nyo, 3637 04:00:53,100 --> 04:00:53,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if I'm not mistaken, 3638 04:00:54,160 --> 04:00:56,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag tinotal nyo, P730 million yan. 3639 04:00:58,000 --> 04:00:58,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes. 3640 04:00:59,060 --> 04:00:59,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3641 04:00:59,400 --> 04:01:01,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun po, kayo bin-breakdown. 3642 04:01:01,380 --> 04:01:02,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, we would appreciate 3643 04:01:02,780 --> 04:01:05,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to be provided with that breakdown. 3644 04:01:06,300 --> 04:01:06,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3645 04:01:07,680 --> 04:01:09,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun pala, mas narinig natin. 3646 04:01:09,940 --> 04:01:10,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede pong pakiulit lang, 3647 04:01:10,980 --> 04:01:11,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para malinaw din, no, 3648 04:01:12,080 --> 04:01:14,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na itong P730 million na ito 3649 04:01:14,980 --> 04:01:17,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay napunta sa iba't-ibang mga 3650 04:01:17,960 --> 04:01:21,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: opisina or programa 3651 04:01:21,160 --> 04:01:23,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ilalim ng Office of the Secretary. 3652 04:01:24,720 --> 04:01:25,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pakiulit lang po. 3653 04:01:25,620 --> 04:01:26,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Madam Speaker, 3654 04:01:27,280 --> 04:01:29,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: for Office of the Secretary, 3655 04:01:29,400 --> 04:01:30,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: for the Secretary proper, 3656 04:01:30,660 --> 04:01:33,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: P214 million, P471,000. 3657 04:01:34,060 --> 04:01:36,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: For the Witness Protection Program, 3658 04:01:37,920 --> 04:01:39,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: P500 million po. 3659 04:01:40,180 --> 04:01:40,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pinakamalaki. 3660 04:01:40,820 --> 04:01:43,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung Interagency Council 3661 04:01:43,840 --> 04:01:45,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: against Trafficking, 3662 04:01:46,360 --> 04:01:47,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: P10 million. 3663 04:01:47,860 --> 04:01:49,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Office of the Cybercrime po, 3664 04:01:49,540 --> 04:01:51,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: P475,000. 3665 04:01:52,220 --> 04:01:53,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Tapos yung sa NCC 3666 04:01:53,320 --> 04:01:54,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: o sa CSIM po, 3667 04:01:54,880 --> 04:01:55,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ay P5 million. 3668 04:01:56,440 --> 04:01:56,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3669 04:01:57,120 --> 04:01:58,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, thank you for that breakdown. 3670 04:01:58,500 --> 04:01:58,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 3671 04:01:59,400 --> 04:02:00,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at least, 3672 04:02:00,680 --> 04:02:02,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi po makikita kasi yan sa 3673 04:02:02,300 --> 04:02:04,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: GAA itself, 3674 04:02:04,880 --> 04:02:06,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nor even in the NEP. 3675 04:02:06,520 --> 04:02:10,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that's additional information 3676 04:02:10,160 --> 04:02:12,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na more or less would give us 3677 04:02:12,480 --> 04:02:13,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: more of an idea 3678 04:02:13,520 --> 04:02:15,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung saan gagamitin itong 3679 04:02:15,820 --> 04:02:17,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential funds na ito. 3680 04:02:17,720 --> 04:02:19,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinakamalaki po na nabanggit nyo, 3681 04:02:19,320 --> 04:02:20,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: P500 million 3682 04:02:20,200 --> 04:02:23,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: goes to the Witness Protection Program. 3683 04:02:23,560 --> 04:02:23,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3684 04:02:25,800 --> 04:02:27,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ganun din po. 3685 04:02:27,640 --> 04:02:29,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun nga ang tanong natin. 3686 04:02:29,380 --> 04:02:34,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit po sa ilalim 3687 04:02:34,240 --> 04:02:36,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Marcos Jr. Administration 3688 04:02:36,060 --> 04:02:38,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay lumobo 3689 04:02:38,820 --> 04:02:41,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to unprecedented levels 3690 04:02:41,320 --> 04:02:42,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: historically 3691 04:02:42,040 --> 04:02:44,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung confidential funds 3692 04:02:44,400 --> 04:02:45,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DOJ. 3693 04:02:46,480 --> 04:02:47,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Whereas, 3694 04:02:48,140 --> 04:02:50,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at least in the past 10 years, 3695 04:02:52,140 --> 04:02:54,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasa level lang 3696 04:02:54,580 --> 04:02:57,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng around 300, 3697 04:02:57,380 --> 04:02:58,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: less than 300, 3698 04:02:59,380 --> 04:03:02,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: less than 400 million pesos. 3699 04:03:02,140 --> 04:03:04,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, parang times five po. 3700 04:03:04,140 --> 04:03:06,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As high as times five 3701 04:03:06,140 --> 04:03:08,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung naabot. 3702 04:03:08,140 --> 04:03:10,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paano po din na-justify ito 3703 04:03:10,140 --> 04:03:14,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Department of Justice? 3704 04:03:14,140 --> 04:03:16,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Well, Madam Speaker, 3705 04:03:16,140 --> 04:03:18,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Distinguished Colleague, 3706 04:03:18,140 --> 04:03:20,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: as an agency dealing with 3707 04:03:20,140 --> 04:03:24,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: investigative and prosecutorial functions, 3708 04:03:24,140 --> 04:03:26,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kailangan po yung 3709 04:03:26,140 --> 04:03:28,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: confidential funds 3710 04:03:28,140 --> 04:03:29,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kasi 3711 04:03:29,140 --> 04:03:31,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: it may affect its capacity 3712 04:03:31,380 --> 04:03:33,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: to conduct intelligence gathering, 3713 04:03:33,140 --> 04:03:34,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: surveillance, 3714 04:03:34,900 --> 04:03:37,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and other confidential law enforcement operations. 3715 04:03:37,900 --> 04:03:43,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, mahalaga po yung confidential funds 3716 04:03:43,900 --> 04:03:45,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa isang departamento na 3717 04:03:45,900 --> 04:03:47,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nag-iimbestaga po 3718 04:03:47,140 --> 04:03:48,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng iba't ibang kaso. 3719 04:03:50,900 --> 04:03:51,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Madam Speaker. 3720 04:03:51,900 --> 04:03:53,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, nabanggit po na 3721 04:03:53,900 --> 04:03:55,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa hinihinging, 3722 04:03:55,400 --> 04:03:56,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so in other words, to be clear, 3723 04:03:56,900 --> 04:03:58,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: humihingi na naman po ng additional 3724 04:03:59,140 --> 04:04:01,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential funds 3725 04:04:01,140 --> 04:04:03,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang DOJ. 3726 04:04:03,140 --> 04:04:04,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. 3727 04:04:04,140 --> 04:04:07,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po. To keep it at the same level lang po ng 2026. 3728 04:04:07,140 --> 04:04:10,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Keep it at the same level as 2026. 3729 04:04:10,140 --> 04:04:13,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? So, 3730 04:04:13,140 --> 04:04:15,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that would be... 3731 04:04:15,140 --> 04:04:17,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 180 million po yung 3732 04:04:17,140 --> 04:04:19,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: requested, Madam Speaker. 3733 04:04:19,140 --> 04:04:21,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 180 million? 3734 04:04:21,140 --> 04:04:22,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes. 3735 04:04:22,140 --> 04:04:23,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3736 04:04:23,140 --> 04:04:25,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Additional, bale. 3737 04:04:25,140 --> 04:04:26,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes. 3738 04:04:26,140 --> 04:04:27,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3739 04:04:27,140 --> 04:04:28,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Um... 3740 04:04:28,140 --> 04:04:30,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pakiklaro po, yung Witness Protection Program, 3741 04:04:30,140 --> 04:04:31,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito yung pinakamalaki, 3742 04:04:31,140 --> 04:04:34,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 500 million pesos. 3743 04:04:34,140 --> 04:04:35,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is... 3744 04:04:35,140 --> 04:04:37,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Does that comprise the whole budget 3745 04:04:37,140 --> 04:04:39,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Witness Protection Program? 3746 04:04:39,140 --> 04:04:42,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Or just a confidential... 3747 04:04:42,140 --> 04:04:43,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah... 3748 04:04:43,140 --> 04:04:44,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a con... 3749 04:04:44,140 --> 04:04:47,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a confidential expenses portion? 3750 04:04:50,140 --> 04:04:52,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Confidential expenses portion lang po. 3751 04:04:52,140 --> 04:04:53,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3752 04:04:53,140 --> 04:04:55,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, magkano po yung kabuhuang 3753 04:04:55,140 --> 04:04:56,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget 3754 04:04:56,140 --> 04:05:00,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa Witness Protection Program? 3755 04:05:26,140 --> 04:05:46,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: For the total po, excluding po yung confidential expenses, P625,633,000. 3756 04:05:46,940 --> 04:05:52,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So yung total, including confidential funds, ay P1,000,000,000. 3757 04:05:52,520 --> 04:05:54,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3758 04:06:22,520 --> 04:06:35,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, for the fiscal year 2026 po pala, including na po yung P500,000,000, dun sa P626,193,000. 3759 04:06:35,520 --> 04:06:51,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, well, this is my concern, Madam Speaker. So, P626,000,000 ang total budget for the Witness Protection Program in fiscal year 2026 ngayong taon. 3760 04:06:52,200 --> 04:06:52,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes. 3761 04:06:52,360 --> 04:06:52,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes. 3762 04:06:52,520 --> 04:06:56,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: P626,000,000, 500,000,000 of that, confidential expenses. 3763 04:06:57,480 --> 04:06:58,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker. 3764 04:06:59,160 --> 04:07:04,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, P126,000,000 lang bale yung hindi confidential funds. 3765 04:07:05,580 --> 04:07:06,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Madam Speaker. 3766 04:07:06,580 --> 04:07:19,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, yun po ang concern natin. How come practically the whole program runs with the use of confidential funds? 3767 04:07:20,760 --> 04:07:22,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig sabihin, yung... 3768 04:07:22,360 --> 04:07:28,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lack of transparency, there are many issues here. 3769 04:07:28,300 --> 04:07:39,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagka-confidential funds po, exempted from normal bidding, procurement, and so on, policies of government. 3770 04:07:39,420 --> 04:07:43,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, bakit po ganung kalaki yung ginagawang confidential funds? 3771 04:07:44,600 --> 04:07:46,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang explanation doon? 3772 04:07:49,240 --> 04:07:50,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is there... 3773 04:07:50,300 --> 04:07:50,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is there... 3774 04:07:50,600 --> 04:07:52,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi ba posibleng naman na... 3775 04:07:52,320 --> 04:08:04,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, naintindihan natin, obviously, kailangang protektahan ang sensitive information regarding witnesses, witness protection nga eh. 3776 04:08:05,480 --> 04:08:05,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 3777 04:08:05,680 --> 04:08:19,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, definitely, hindi pwedeng ma-reveal yung mga pangalan, mga individual sa Witness Protection Program, locations, and any other information that would... 3778 04:08:20,600 --> 04:08:29,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Somehow, give away the identities of those under the Witness Protection. 3779 04:08:29,560 --> 04:08:30,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pong question doon. 3780 04:08:31,580 --> 04:08:48,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, to my mind, it's possible to maintain such secrecy or confidentiality while still allowing transparency in the use of funds. 3781 04:08:48,020 --> 04:09:01,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, hindi ba pwedeng ganun na i-share nyo kung paano ginastos ang pondo at i-limit lamang yung talagang confidential expenses? 3782 04:09:01,980 --> 04:09:02,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes. 3783 04:09:03,940 --> 04:09:15,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Madam Speaker, may compliance naman po sila with the requirement regarding the use of confidential funds. 3784 04:09:15,660 --> 04:09:40,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Tapos, lahat po ng galaw po kasi regarding sa Witness Protection Program, doon po, ibinabawas yung pondo, lalo doon po yung mga safe houses, yung benefits sa ating pong witnesses, livelihood, protection, counseling, doon po talaga naka-charge po sa ating pong confidential expenses ng Witness Protection Program. 3785 04:09:40,560 --> 04:09:43,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sir, mag-ingat kayo sa mga statement, ha? 3786 04:09:43,380 --> 04:09:45,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Livelihood, counseling, and so on. 3787 04:09:45,660 --> 04:09:56,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That may not be covered by the COA DBM Resolution on Guidelines on Confidential Expenses. 3788 04:09:57,640 --> 04:09:59,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, are you sure about that? 3789 04:10:01,040 --> 04:10:02,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Because it is stated po sa… 3790 04:10:02,500 --> 04:10:13,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang wala po yung livelihood doon sa COA DBM Resolution on a use of confidential and intelligence funds. 3791 04:10:14,300 --> 04:10:15,580 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Because nasa ano po? 3792 04:10:15,660 --> 04:10:24,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, RA 6981 po, Section 7 and 8 po yung rights and benefits po under the Witness Protection Program. 3793 04:10:24,660 --> 04:10:27,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I don't have the guidelines in front of me. 3794 04:10:28,040 --> 04:10:39,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, I don't recall that livelihood is covered or is an allowed expense under confidential funds. 3795 04:10:45,660 --> 04:10:46,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, I don't know. 3796 04:10:57,800 --> 04:11:00,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pause lang po yung time para hindi na… 3797 04:11:00,240 --> 04:11:00,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, okay. 3798 04:11:01,160 --> 04:11:01,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sige po. 3799 04:11:01,760 --> 04:11:07,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung sa rights and benefits po kasi under the RA 6981, 3800 04:11:07,620 --> 04:11:12,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the department shall whenever practicable assist the witness in obtaining a means of livelihood. 3801 04:11:13,240 --> 04:11:15,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, yun po yung basis. 3802 04:11:15,660 --> 04:11:24,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. What the sponsor has cited is that there is legal basis for giving benefits to those under the witness protection program. 3803 04:11:25,640 --> 04:11:29,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The law does not state that those have to come from confidential expenses. 3804 04:11:31,160 --> 04:11:31,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di po ba? 3805 04:11:31,620 --> 04:11:52,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At again, kung titignan natin yung COA DBM resolution or joint resolution on confidential and intelligence expenses, wala pong livelihood doon. 3806 04:11:52,900 --> 04:12:01,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I mean, I can confidently state that dahil, syempre, nasa balita ngayon yung use of confidential funds. 3807 04:12:01,320 --> 04:12:01,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam nyo na. 3808 04:12:01,620 --> 04:12:04,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam nyo naman yan, because of the impeachment of the Vice President, di ba? 3809 04:12:05,500 --> 04:12:12,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And in fact, isa nga sa mga sinita ng COA ay initially, sabi ng Office of the Vice President, 3810 04:12:12,780 --> 04:12:23,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: they used some of the confidential funds to provide groceries and medicines to informants. 3811 04:12:25,640 --> 04:12:29,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Disallowed. In fact, there was a notice of disallowance on that. 3812 04:12:47,540 --> 04:12:49,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tumatakbo po po yung oras 3813 04:12:49,380 --> 04:12:52,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sana po 3814 04:12:53,000 --> 04:12:55,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, ma allow na lang ng konting 3815 04:12:56,020 --> 04:12:56,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Excess 3816 04:12:58,460 --> 04:12:59,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As per 3817 04:12:59,080 --> 04:13:01,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the Department of Justice po 3818 04:13:01,100 --> 04:13:02,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: there is a risk 3819 04:13:02,880 --> 04:13:04,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: in exposing po yung identities po 3820 04:13:04,860 --> 04:13:05,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng ating pong witnesses 3821 04:13:05,820 --> 04:13:07,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kapag 3822 04:13:07,440 --> 04:13:10,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nag-go through po ng 3823 04:13:10,280 --> 04:13:13,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: standard procurement 3824 04:13:13,080 --> 04:13:13,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: procedure 3825 04:13:13,760 --> 04:13:16,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang iniiwasan po nila 3826 04:13:16,080 --> 04:13:18,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is to expose the identities 3827 04:13:18,880 --> 04:13:20,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of these witnesses 3828 04:13:20,440 --> 04:13:22,180 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: which are needed 3829 04:13:22,180 --> 04:13:24,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung testimony naman nila 3830 04:13:24,080 --> 04:13:26,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: needed to prosecute the case 3831 04:13:26,380 --> 04:13:27,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: in which they are 3832 04:13:27,960 --> 04:13:30,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: covered by the witness protection program 3833 04:13:30,760 --> 04:13:32,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: so all of this 3834 04:13:32,760 --> 04:13:33,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: naman po yung gastos 3835 04:13:33,860 --> 04:13:35,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is for the investigation po 3836 04:13:35,840 --> 04:13:37,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng ating pong kaso at hand 3837 04:13:37,940 --> 04:13:40,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung saan po sila 3838 04:13:40,260 --> 04:13:42,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung saan po sila 3839 04:13:42,560 --> 04:13:44,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nag-apply as a witness 3840 04:13:44,040 --> 04:13:46,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well of course naintindihan po natin 3841 04:13:46,600 --> 04:13:48,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: absolutely kailangan ma-protect 3842 04:13:48,940 --> 04:13:50,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung identities under the 3843 04:13:50,600 --> 04:13:51,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: witness protection program 3844 04:13:51,700 --> 04:13:53,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya nga witness protection program 3845 04:13:53,300 --> 04:13:55,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: however in other words 3846 04:13:55,820 --> 04:13:57,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kailangan gumawa ng paraan para makapag 3847 04:13:57,940 --> 04:13:59,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: procure for livelihood 3848 04:13:59,200 --> 04:13:59,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: without 3849 04:13:59,720 --> 04:14:01,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede naman eh 3850 04:14:01,600 --> 04:14:02,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: di ba 3851 04:14:02,100 --> 04:14:03,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi mo naman kailangan 3852 04:14:03,400 --> 04:14:05,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ipangalan sa bidding documents 3853 04:14:05,400 --> 04:14:06,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or whatever 3854 04:14:06,020 --> 04:14:07,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or sa purchase orders 3855 04:14:07,720 --> 04:14:08,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung 3856 04:14:08,920 --> 04:14:10,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pangalan ng witness 3857 04:14:10,900 --> 04:14:11,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or 3858 04:14:11,960 --> 04:14:13,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so in other words 3859 04:14:13,760 --> 04:14:15,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there are ways of doing this 3860 04:14:15,200 --> 04:14:16,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the other way is to classify 3861 04:14:16,480 --> 04:14:17,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: certain information 3862 04:14:17,760 --> 04:14:18,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: di ba 3863 04:14:18,660 --> 04:14:20,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as a secret 3864 04:14:20,540 --> 04:14:21,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on 3865 04:14:21,960 --> 04:14:24,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so may mga paraan po 3866 04:14:24,040 --> 04:14:24,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and I'm 3867 04:14:24,600 --> 04:14:26,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: what I'm pointing out 3868 04:14:26,080 --> 04:14:27,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is based on 3869 04:14:27,360 --> 04:14:27,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: what has been 3870 04:14:27,940 --> 04:14:28,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: been shared 3871 04:14:28,480 --> 04:14:29,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: livelihood 3872 04:14:29,360 --> 04:14:30,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi covered 3873 04:14:30,280 --> 04:14:32,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: even if there is 3874 04:14:32,500 --> 04:14:33,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: legal basis 3875 04:14:33,220 --> 04:14:35,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the witness protection law 3876 04:14:35,800 --> 04:14:37,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the guidelines on 3877 04:14:37,500 --> 04:14:38,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential expenses 3878 04:14:38,620 --> 04:14:39,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: does not allow that 3879 04:14:39,660 --> 04:14:40,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay so 3880 04:14:40,840 --> 04:14:42,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: i-review po sana ng DOJ 3881 04:14:42,480 --> 04:14:43,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then yun na nga po 3882 04:14:43,660 --> 04:14:45,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang concern natin 3883 04:14:45,960 --> 04:14:47,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na napakalaking pondo 3884 04:14:47,440 --> 04:14:49,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang nilalaan 3885 04:14:49,200 --> 04:14:51,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa confidential funds 3886 04:14:51,580 --> 04:14:52,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: humingi pa ng mas malaki 3887 04:14:52,820 --> 04:14:53,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang DOJ 3888 04:14:53,460 --> 04:14:53,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero 3889 04:14:53,880 --> 04:14:55,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: strictly speaking 3890 04:14:55,440 --> 04:14:57,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: katulad ng nakikita po natin 3891 04:14:57,200 --> 04:14:57,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa 3892 04:14:57,560 --> 04:14:58,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: impeachment trial 3893 04:14:58,700 --> 04:14:59,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh 3894 04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:07,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag minusisi mo talaga, mukhang may mga problema, diba, sa confidential funds. 3895 04:15:07,320 --> 04:15:23,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, the General Provisions on Confidential Funds, the General Appropriations Act requires that all agencies using confidential funds must submit a report. 3896 04:15:23,780 --> 04:15:37,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That agencies utilizing confidential funds shall submit to the President of the Philippines and both Houses of Congress a quarterly report on the accomplishments in the use of said funds. 3897 04:15:38,560 --> 04:15:48,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It's not a report on how the funds were spent, you know, as in magkano, kanino nyo binaya, and so on. 3898 04:15:48,980 --> 04:15:51,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi rito, a report on the accomplishments. 3899 04:15:51,900 --> 04:15:59,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ang na-achieve, diba, sa paggamit ng confidential funds? 3900 04:16:00,340 --> 04:16:04,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Does the DOJ comply with this quarterly reportorial requirement? 3901 04:16:06,880 --> 04:16:08,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May quarterly accomplishment report po? 3902 04:16:09,700 --> 04:16:12,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, the DOJ submits the quarterly accomplishments po. 3903 04:16:12,500 --> 04:16:16,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, submit to the President and both Houses of Congress. 3904 04:16:16,840 --> 04:16:18,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, dapat ang Kongreso meron din po yan. 3905 04:16:19,820 --> 04:16:20,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po ba? 3906 04:16:21,900 --> 04:16:23,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po ang Kongreso. 3907 04:16:24,080 --> 04:16:26,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Meron din po, Madam Speaker. 3908 04:16:26,300 --> 04:16:30,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Siguro, itatanong na lang natin sa Kongreso kung meron yan. 3909 04:16:30,880 --> 04:16:38,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At now, can the DOJ share these accomplishment reports? 3910 04:16:39,860 --> 04:16:43,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi naman ito about the expenses but on the accomplishments. 3911 04:16:44,180 --> 04:16:49,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig sabihin, batay sa ginastos namin, ito yung na... 3912 04:16:51,900 --> 04:16:59,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagawa natin, no, in the, in fulfilling the mandate of the agency. 3913 04:17:00,280 --> 04:17:02,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, can this accomplishment report be shared? 3914 04:17:03,500 --> 04:17:05,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Not just to Kongreso but to the public. 3915 04:17:09,080 --> 04:17:13,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi naman sinabi rito na dapat confidential yung accomplishment report. 3916 04:17:14,080 --> 04:17:14,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 3917 04:17:19,100 --> 04:17:20,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang sagot ng ahensya? 3918 04:17:21,020 --> 04:17:21,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Because... 3919 04:17:21,740 --> 04:17:29,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As for the ACAPI po, within, they are complying with the... 3920 04:17:29,300 --> 04:17:29,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, sige. 3921 04:17:29,760 --> 04:17:37,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: What was said, they are submitting quarterly reports po sa ating Office of the President and the H.O.R. 3922 04:17:37,320 --> 04:17:43,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As to sharing it with the public po, to afford full protection po ng ating pong witnesses, 3923 04:17:45,320 --> 04:17:49,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: we cannot divulge that information. 3924 04:17:49,120 --> 04:17:50,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As of sharing, for example, 3925 04:17:51,740 --> 04:18:06,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang isang example niyan would be because of the use of confidential funds for rewards. 3926 04:18:06,300 --> 04:18:09,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nahuli namin si ganito, ex, na matagal ng wanted. 3927 04:18:09,900 --> 04:18:21,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O hindi pa pwedeng malaman ng publiko yun na because of a reward given through confidential funds. 3928 04:18:21,060 --> 04:18:21,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nahuli. 3929 04:18:21,740 --> 04:18:24,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Si wanted criminal, ganito. 3930 04:18:25,520 --> 04:18:27,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, may nalalabag ba doon? 3931 04:18:32,320 --> 04:18:33,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well... 3932 04:18:53,500 --> 04:19:05,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May I clarify, Madam Speaker, if any use of confidential funds, not necessarily the confidential expenses in the witness protection program? 3933 04:19:06,560 --> 04:19:10,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Puyong tinatanong niyo kung pwedeng ma-share po yung... 3934 04:19:10,460 --> 04:19:11,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In general po. 3935 04:19:11,520 --> 04:19:12,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: In general. 3936 04:19:12,240 --> 04:19:12,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, yung lahat. 3937 04:19:12,980 --> 04:19:14,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung lahat ng accomplishments. 3938 04:19:17,660 --> 04:19:20,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para makita ng taong bayan, talaga bang may nagawa to? 3939 04:19:21,320 --> 04:19:22,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hinihingi pa kayo ng dagdag eh. 3940 04:19:24,540 --> 04:19:27,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakatulong ba sa pag-aresto ng mga wanted? 3941 04:19:29,840 --> 04:19:32,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakatulong ba sa pag-convict ng mga... 3942 04:19:32,380 --> 04:19:35,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dapat... 3943 04:19:35,760 --> 04:19:38,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mapakulong. 3944 04:19:39,680 --> 04:19:44,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Madam Speaker, in general, they cannot... 3945 04:19:44,660 --> 04:19:45,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They cannot. 3946 04:19:45,440 --> 04:19:49,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They'll valsh because it would affect investigation of other activities rin po. 3947 04:19:49,520 --> 04:19:50,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, okay. 3948 04:19:50,060 --> 04:19:50,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 3949 04:19:51,320 --> 04:20:00,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, noted po yung mga sagot niyo and then that informs our position and strengthens our position 3950 04:20:00,020 --> 04:20:09,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the excesses in appropriations and use of confidential funds. 3951 04:20:11,540 --> 04:20:16,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But let me move on kasi pa maubos po ang oras natin. 3952 04:20:16,800 --> 04:20:18,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I want to move on to the... 3953 04:20:18,380 --> 04:20:21,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you po for answering questions. 3954 04:20:21,320 --> 04:20:28,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Regarding the confidential expenses, nanatili yung posisyon natin na pambihira po ang paglobo ng confidential funds 3955 04:20:28,460 --> 04:20:30,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mula nung panahon ni... 3956 04:20:30,840 --> 04:20:31,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng dating... 3957 04:20:31,660 --> 04:20:38,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng nakarang administrasyon, pinagpatuloy at lalo pang dinagdagan ng Marcos Jr. Administration. 3958 04:20:39,000 --> 04:20:39,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3959 04:20:39,640 --> 04:20:50,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sa ang paniniwala natin, the objectives of these funds may be accomplished without necessarily... 3960 04:20:50,320 --> 04:20:51,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: without necessarily... 3961 04:20:51,160 --> 04:20:51,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: without necessarily... 3962 04:20:51,320 --> 04:20:53,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: giving it blanket confidentiality. 3963 04:20:54,560 --> 04:21:00,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinapakita ng nangyari sa Office of the Vice President kung gaano kadali ang pag-abuso nito. 3964 04:21:00,780 --> 04:21:00,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3965 04:21:01,600 --> 04:21:11,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, let me move on to the PCGG na attached agency po ng DOJ. 3966 04:21:12,680 --> 04:21:20,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At alam po natin ang tanging mandato ng PCGG, Recovery of Marcos Ilgatenwell. 3967 04:21:20,320 --> 04:21:21,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po? 3968 04:21:21,940 --> 04:21:23,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Tama po, Madam Speaker. 3969 04:21:23,960 --> 04:21:31,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At recently, of course, nagkaroon po ng ruling ang Sandigang Bayan. 3970 04:21:34,140 --> 04:21:35,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sandigang Bayan po, no? 3971 04:21:35,580 --> 04:21:42,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagkaroon ng ruling ang Sandigang Bayan in the civil case number 0141. 3972 04:21:43,260 --> 04:21:50,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is an omnibus civil case filed way back in 1991 by the PCG. 3973 04:21:50,320 --> 04:21:59,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For the recovery of numerous properties from the Marcos family. 3974 04:22:00,760 --> 04:22:05,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In fact, may mga partial na nabawi na, significant. 3975 04:22:06,560 --> 04:22:17,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Like the Swiss bank deposits worth $658 million, the Arelma accounts, the jewelry, the famous jewelry collection, 3976 04:22:18,440 --> 04:22:20,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at saka a number of... 3977 04:22:20,160 --> 04:22:22,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: A number of paintings, and so on. 3978 04:22:22,160 --> 04:22:24,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bahagi yun ang civil case na ito. 3979 04:22:25,260 --> 04:22:35,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero recently po, ay may decision na i-dismiss to, at actually, yung gobyerno pa. 3980 04:22:36,040 --> 04:22:37,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang nagsabi, pwede ba i-dismiss na natin? 3981 04:22:38,540 --> 04:22:42,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Or hindi na namin i-pro-prosecute ang kaso? 3982 04:22:43,200 --> 04:22:43,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 3983 04:22:44,080 --> 04:22:46,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At pwedeng ipaliwanag kung anong nangyari dito? 3984 04:22:46,320 --> 04:22:48,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anong nangyari dito? 3985 04:22:50,160 --> 04:23:20,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The PCGG was required to manifest kung gusto pang magpresenta ng ebidensya for the rest of the assets po na alleged po doon sa complaint. So again, ang PCGG ay nag-manifest na... 3986 04:23:22,880 --> 04:23:32,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They manifested that they will still present evidence po. 3987 04:23:33,360 --> 04:23:36,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They will not present any evidence po. 3988 04:23:37,340 --> 04:23:41,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Yun nga. Dahil nag-manifest ng PCGG, 3989 04:23:42,120 --> 04:23:43,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi na sila makakapag... 3990 04:23:43,180 --> 04:23:45,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They will no longer present evidence. 3991 04:23:46,060 --> 04:23:47,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The case was dismissed. 3992 04:23:47,720 --> 04:23:49,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The civil case was dismissed. 3993 04:23:49,040 --> 04:23:49,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3994 04:23:50,140 --> 04:24:04,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Um, could the, uh, could the PCGG just, uh, place on the record how much of that civil case 0141, may partial recoveries, 3995 04:24:04,200 --> 04:24:13,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: how much was, remained, has remained unrecovered because they said they would no longer present evidence? 3996 04:24:15,480 --> 04:24:19,900 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The chair would like to inform Rep. Inyo that his time has expired. 3997 04:24:20,140 --> 04:24:20,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you. 3998 04:24:21,880 --> 04:24:33,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: We'll just get the exact figure po, Madam Speaker, if we could give it also or provide it to our distinguished colleague. 3999 04:24:33,920 --> 04:24:38,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, yun po yung isang tanong. Hindi po nila mabigay? 4000 04:24:38,940 --> 04:24:41,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They're just getting the numbers po, Madam Speaker. 4001 04:24:41,500 --> 04:24:42,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Getting the numbers. 4002 04:24:42,120 --> 04:24:50,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, um, during the budget hearings, I asked and I have been provided with... 4003 04:24:50,140 --> 04:25:02,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, information on the total value of the remaining pending PCGG cases for recovery of ill-gotten wealth. 4004 04:25:02,140 --> 04:25:17,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And here, ah, ah, the PCGG has said that there are a total of 67 pending cases pending before the Sandigan Bayan or lower courts. 4005 04:25:17,140 --> 04:25:17,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 34. 4006 04:25:17,920 --> 04:25:18,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 34. 4007 04:25:18,260 --> 04:25:19,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: On appeal... 4008 04:25:19,980 --> 04:25:28,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: With, ah, Supreme Court or CA 31, pending in foreign courts, 2, for a total of 67, 4009 04:25:28,220 --> 04:25:39,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the total monetary value of ill-gotten wealth that should be recovered amounts to 76.773 billion. 4010 04:25:40,720 --> 04:25:40,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 4011 04:25:41,500 --> 04:25:44,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, does the PCGG confirm that? 4012 04:25:45,360 --> 04:25:49,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pa pong 67 cases na pending na... 4013 04:25:49,980 --> 04:25:56,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ill-gotten wealth case na gusto pang bawiin ng gobyerno sa Pamilya Marcos. 4014 04:25:56,760 --> 04:25:58,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 76.773 billion. 4015 04:25:59,420 --> 04:25:59,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po? 4016 04:26:00,080 --> 04:26:02,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, there are still 67 pending cases po. 4017 04:26:03,660 --> 04:26:04,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 67 pending cases. 4018 04:26:05,160 --> 04:26:09,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pakiklaro lang po yung on appeal with, ah, SE, SE 31. 4019 04:26:09,740 --> 04:26:18,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Recently, there is a case where 7 of the, ah, corruption charges against... 4020 04:26:19,980 --> 04:26:27,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, the former First Lady, ah, and member of the House, Imelda Marcos, was dismissed. 4021 04:26:28,740 --> 04:26:33,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ibig po ba sabihin, babawasan, yung 67, babawasan ng 7? 4022 04:26:34,260 --> 04:26:36,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ah, Madam Speaker, hindi po kasama yun sa... 4023 04:26:36,420 --> 04:26:37,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po, hindi kasama. 4024 04:26:38,440 --> 04:26:39,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so, klaro po yun. 4025 04:26:39,780 --> 04:26:40,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, ma'am. 4026 04:26:40,320 --> 04:26:40,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4027 04:26:40,580 --> 04:26:41,540 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Kindly wrap up. 4028 04:26:42,040 --> 04:26:42,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wrapping you. 4029 04:26:42,680 --> 04:26:42,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4030 04:26:43,380 --> 04:26:43,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you. 4031 04:26:43,860 --> 04:26:49,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Um, let, I will wrap up then, ah, Madam Speaker. 4032 04:26:49,980 --> 04:26:55,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, the PCG, para rin ma-place on the record yung accomplishments ng PCGG. 4033 04:26:55,900 --> 04:27:06,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pong binanggit dito na tatlong, ah, dalawa pala, na significant recent, ah, victories or accomplishments of PCGG. 4034 04:27:06,780 --> 04:27:11,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para huwag naman po isipin na walang ginagawa ang, wala nang ginagawa ang PCGG. 4035 04:27:12,580 --> 04:27:19,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na ipanalo raw yung kaso kaugnay sa Malacanang of the North, in Paway, Ilocos Norte. 4036 04:27:19,980 --> 04:27:38,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, in other words, nagrulang Supreme Court na pag-aari ng gobyerno, hindi ng, ah, Pamilya Marcos, yung, ah, 576,000 square meters of, ah, the Malacanang of the North. 4037 04:27:39,100 --> 04:27:39,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba yun? 4038 04:27:41,100 --> 04:27:42,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sa gobyerno yun. 4039 04:27:42,580 --> 04:27:47,460 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair would like to inform again, Representative Pino, that his time has expired. 4040 04:27:47,460 --> 04:27:48,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Last na po, last na po. 4041 04:27:49,100 --> 04:27:49,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, finally... 4042 04:27:49,980 --> 04:27:50,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, this is important. 4043 04:27:51,360 --> 04:27:58,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nanalo din po sa Supreme Court kaugnay sa Payanig sa Pasig Property. 4044 04:27:59,580 --> 04:28:03,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Again, ruling that this is property of the government. 4045 04:28:04,940 --> 04:28:12,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These victories affirm the Republic's ownership and control over significant properties, more or less 50 billion in value. 4046 04:28:12,160 --> 04:28:19,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, napakahalaga po na panalo na hindi ito sa Pamilya Marcos. 4047 04:28:19,660 --> 04:28:23,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung hindi, sa gobyerno ng Pilipinas, 50 billion. 4048 04:28:23,960 --> 04:28:25,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No joke po yan. 4049 04:28:25,700 --> 04:28:25,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4050 04:28:26,620 --> 04:28:31,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, however, meron pang 76 billion na hinahabol. 4051 04:28:32,020 --> 04:28:32,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4052 04:28:33,040 --> 04:28:39,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ah, with that, Madam Speaker, ah, ubos na po ang aking oras. 4053 04:28:40,000 --> 04:28:41,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, maraming salamat po. 4054 04:28:42,080 --> 04:28:42,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you. 4055 04:28:42,780 --> 04:28:45,080 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Thank you, Representative Tinio, Majority Leader. 4056 04:28:45,080 --> 04:28:49,080 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable... 4057 04:28:49,660 --> 04:28:51,060 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Honorable Marcelino C. Libanan. 4058 04:28:51,960 --> 04:28:57,560 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Marcelino Libanan, our Minority Floor Leader, is hereby recognized for his interpellation. 4059 04:29:01,460 --> 04:29:02,880 Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 4060 04:29:04,000 --> 04:29:09,980 Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan: Madam Speaker, bago po ako patuloy, gusto ko munang i-greet ang aking family, 4061 04:29:10,580 --> 04:29:13,940 Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan: former family, the Department of Justice. Magandang hapon po sa inyong lahat. 4062 04:29:13,940 --> 04:29:18,940 Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan: At, Madam Speaker, sila wala nang mag-i-interpellate. 4063 04:29:19,660 --> 04:29:23,520 Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan: Sa hanay ng minorya sa Kongreso, 4064 04:29:24,600 --> 04:29:27,560 Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan: kaya, on behalf of the minority, 4065 04:29:28,460 --> 04:29:34,000 Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan: I would like to move, terminate the period for interpellation and debate 4066 04:29:34,000 --> 04:29:39,380 Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan: on the Department of Justice, including its attached agencies, Madam Speaker. 4067 04:29:39,700 --> 04:29:40,880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say? 4068 04:29:41,640 --> 04:29:44,780 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority 4069 04:29:44,780 --> 04:29:49,640 Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla: in the motion to terminate the period of interpellation on the proposed budget of the DOJ. 4070 04:29:49,660 --> 04:29:54,960 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion to terminate interpellations on the proposed budget of the Department of Justice, 4071 04:29:55,100 --> 04:29:58,400 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: including its attached agencies. Is there any objection? 4072 04:29:59,000 --> 04:30:00,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. 4073 04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:06,800 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The interpellations on the proposed budget of said department and its attached agencies is hereby terminated. 4074 04:30:10,340 --> 04:30:11,360 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader? 4075 04:30:13,140 --> 04:30:27,400 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, under the budgetary support of the government corporations, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Philippine Center for Economic Development. 4076 04:30:27,400 --> 04:30:31,840 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The chair hears none. The motion is approved. 4077 04:30:32,420 --> 04:30:35,240 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes. 4078 04:30:35,460 --> 04:30:36,240 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended. 4079 04:35:12,000 --> 04:35:16,800 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. Majority Leader? 4080 04:35:17,940 --> 04:35:20,860 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I would like to reiterate my earlier motion. 4081 04:35:21,700 --> 04:35:27,260 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Under the budgetary support of the government corporations, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Philippine Center for Economic Development. 4082 04:35:27,260 --> 04:35:33,280 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The chair hears none. The motion is approved. 4083 04:35:33,780 --> 04:35:34,500 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader? 4084 04:35:34,920 --> 04:35:40,380 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Philippine Center for Economic Development. 4085 04:35:41,440 --> 04:35:46,840 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: They are the following. Executive Director, Maria Joy V. Abrinica. Madam Speaker. 4086 04:35:47,460 --> 04:35:52,640 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: We will acknowledge the presence of the heads and staff of Philippine Center for Economic Development. 4087 04:35:53,060 --> 04:35:55,420 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader? 4088 04:35:56,400 --> 04:35:57,120 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker? 4089 04:35:57,260 --> 04:36:09,940 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chair from the Committee on Appropriations, Vice Chair Maria Isabel L. Zagarbaria to sponsor the proposed budget for the Philippine Center for Economic Development. 4090 04:36:09,940 --> 04:36:21,800 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The chair hears none. Representative Maria Isabel Zagarbaria, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, is hereby recognized to begin the sponsorship of House Bill No. 10858. 4091 04:36:22,840 --> 04:36:23,480 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader? 4092 04:36:24,000 --> 04:36:26,620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues, 4093 04:36:27,260 --> 04:36:40,980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: I respectfully seek the support of this Honorable House for the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget for the Philippine Center for Economic Development. Thank you, Madam Speaker. 4094 04:36:41,980 --> 04:36:42,660 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader? 4095 04:36:44,120 --> 04:36:48,140 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Presley de Jesus. 4096 04:36:50,700 --> 04:36:55,360 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Presley de Jesus of Eureka Partidos is hereby recognized for his interpellation. 4097 04:36:55,840 --> 04:36:57,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 4098 04:36:57,260 --> 04:37:15,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, there being no more members for the minority who wishes to interpolate, I move to terminate the budget, the period of sponsorship and debate for the budget of the Philippine Center for Economic Development. So move, Madam Speaker. 4099 04:37:15,480 --> 04:37:16,440 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say? 4100 04:37:16,800 --> 04:37:27,120 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpolations on the proposed budget of the Center for Economic Development. 4101 04:37:27,120 --> 04:37:33,240 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellation of the proposed budget of the Philippine Center for Economic Development. 4102 04:37:33,380 --> 04:37:39,380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The chair hears none. The interpellation on the proposed budget of said agency is hereby terminated. 4103 04:37:40,380 --> 04:37:41,240 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4104 04:37:43,520 --> 04:37:54,040 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation. 4105 04:37:54,040 --> 04:37:57,380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The chair hears none. The motion is approved. 4106 04:37:57,700 --> 04:37:58,540 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4107 04:37:59,320 --> 04:38:03,760 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, before we proceed, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Philippine Postal Corporation. 4108 04:38:04,060 --> 04:38:04,680 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: They are the following. 4109 04:38:05,340 --> 04:38:08,720 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Postmaster General and CEO Maximus C. Santamaria III. 4110 04:38:10,500 --> 04:38:14,380 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Assistant Postmaster General Gilbert B. Javier. 4111 04:38:16,400 --> 04:38:20,080 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Associate Postmaster General Noreen Boots G. Gragasin. 4112 04:38:20,560 --> 04:38:24,000 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Associate Postmaster General Marigold D. Libuit- 4113 04:38:24,240 --> 04:38:24,680 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Arroyo. 4114 04:38:25,260 --> 04:38:29,840 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials of the Philippine Postal Corporation. 4115 04:38:30,160 --> 04:38:31,620 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Welcome to the House of Representatives. 4116 04:38:32,000 --> 04:38:32,580 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4117 04:38:32,740 --> 04:38:40,780 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Sagar Barilla to sponsor the proposed budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation. 4118 04:38:40,780 --> 04:38:43,400 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The chair hears none. 4119 04:38:43,540 --> 04:38:51,140 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Isabel Sagar Barilla, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, is hereby recognized to sponsor the budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation. 4120 04:38:52,820 --> 04:38:53,740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Madam Speaker. 4121 04:38:54,040 --> 04:39:03,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Distinguished Colleagues, I respectfully seek the support of this Honorable House for the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation. 4122 04:39:04,740 --> 04:39:05,880 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 4123 04:39:06,660 --> 04:39:10,160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: This representation is now ready to answer questions from our colleagues. 4124 04:39:10,620 --> 04:39:11,300 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4125 04:39:12,040 --> 04:39:15,000 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Presley de Jesus. 4126 04:39:16,980 --> 04:39:20,800 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Presley de Jesus is hereby recognized for his interpellation. 4127 04:39:21,260 --> 04:39:23,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, Madam Speaker. 4128 04:39:24,040 --> 04:39:36,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: There being no more members for the minority who wish to interpellate, I move to terminate the period of sponsorship and debate for the budget of the Philippine Postal 4129 04:39:36,660 --> 04:39:39,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Corporation, or PhilPost. So moved, Madam Speaker. 4130 04:39:39,660 --> 04:39:40,860 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say? 4131 04:39:41,460 --> 04:39:49,360 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation. 4132 04:39:49,740 --> 04:39:54,020 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion to terminate interpellations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation. 4133 04:39:54,040 --> 04:39:55,620 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 4134 04:39:56,180 --> 04:39:57,140 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. 4135 04:39:57,460 --> 04:40:01,620 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The interpellation of the proposed budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation is hereby terminated. 4136 04:40:03,060 --> 04:40:03,940 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4137 04:40:06,780 --> 04:40:12,120 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Philippine Reclamation Authority. 4138 04:40:12,660 --> 04:40:13,680 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 4139 04:40:14,020 --> 04:40:14,880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. 4140 04:40:14,960 --> 04:40:15,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The motion is approved. 4141 04:40:16,480 --> 04:40:17,060 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4142 04:40:17,780 --> 04:40:21,660 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, before I proceed, may we acknowledge the heads and the officials of the PRA? 4143 04:40:21,660 --> 04:40:22,980 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: They are the following. 4144 04:40:24,040 --> 04:40:32,980 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Chairman Alexander T. Lopez, General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr., Member Board of Director Anthony Peter D. Crisologo. 4145 04:40:33,280 --> 04:40:33,740 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker. 4146 04:40:34,060 --> 04:40:38,100 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials from the Philippine Reclamation Authority. 4147 04:40:38,440 --> 04:40:39,880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Welcome to the House of Representatives. 4148 04:40:40,120 --> 04:40:40,740 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4149 04:40:41,800 --> 04:40:52,260 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chair Josefina B. Taliado from the 1st District of Camarines Norte to sponsor the budget of the PRA. 4150 04:40:52,260 --> 04:40:53,640 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 4151 04:40:54,040 --> 04:40:55,260 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. 4152 04:40:55,420 --> 04:41:03,760 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Josefina Taliado, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, is hereby recognized to sponsor the budget of the Philippine Reclamation Authority. 4153 04:41:04,620 --> 04:41:05,360 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4154 04:41:05,640 --> 04:41:06,180 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Go ahead. 4155 04:41:06,420 --> 04:41:06,600 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Sorry. 4156 04:41:12,220 --> 04:41:15,460 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Honorable Taliado may now proceed with her sponsorship speech. 4157 04:41:15,460 --> 04:41:19,000 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues, 4158 04:41:19,520 --> 04:41:24,020 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: I rise today to present for the consideration of this august chamber, 4159 04:41:24,060 --> 04:41:33,980 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: the proposed 5 billion budgetary support for the Philippine Reclamation Authority for Fiscal Year 2027. 4160 04:41:34,840 --> 04:41:43,840 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Intended for the continued implementation of the Philippine International Exhibition Center, PIEC. 4161 04:41:44,940 --> 04:41:52,660 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: PRA is the government instrumentality mandated not only to regulate and undertake reclamation, 4162 04:41:52,920 --> 04:41:53,820 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: but 4163 04:41:53,820 --> 04:41:54,380 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: also 4164 04:41:54,380 --> 04:41:55,140 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: to 4165 04:41:55,140 --> 04:41:55,540 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: pursue 4166 04:41:55,540 --> 04:42:04,360 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: infrastructure development and the development and management of public estate in the national interest. 4167 04:42:05,720 --> 04:42:15,860 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: In furtherance of this mandate, the PIEC is envisioned as a national flagship infrastructure project 4168 04:42:15,860 --> 04:42:23,040 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: that will strengthen the country's capacity to host major international meetings, 4169 04:42:23,040 --> 04:42:30,480 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: conventions, and exhibitions, support tourism, and related industries, 4170 04:42:31,280 --> 04:42:38,360 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: and enhance the productive use and value of government-owned properties in the area. 4171 04:42:38,980 --> 04:42:45,200 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: With this, Madam Speaker, I am ready for the interpellation and in advance, 4172 04:42:45,200 --> 04:42:51,740 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: I thank our distinguished colleagues for their consideration and support 4173 04:42:51,740 --> 04:42:52,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: for the 4174 04:42:53,040 --> 04:42:57,020 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: proposed budget of the Philippine Reclamation Authority. 4175 04:42:57,240 --> 04:42:57,980 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Maraming salamat po. 4176 04:42:58,380 --> 04:42:59,320 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader? 4177 04:43:00,900 --> 04:43:05,900 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Presley de Jesus to interpellate the sponsor. 4178 04:43:06,500 --> 04:43:10,900 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Presley de Jesus of [unclear] is hereby recognized for his interpellation. 4179 04:43:11,380 --> 04:43:15,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker, and to the distinguished sponsor. 4180 04:43:17,580 --> 04:43:21,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The 5 billion Philippine International Exhibition Center allocation 4181 04:43:23,040 --> 04:43:30,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: provides the Philippine Reclamation Authority with 5 billion pesos 4182 04:43:30,460 --> 04:43:35,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the Philippine International Exhibition Center, or PIEC. 4183 04:43:35,360 --> 04:43:41,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: This is a substantial new appropriation for a government-owned or controlled corporation 4184 04:43:41,960 --> 04:43:49,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that ordinarily undertakes proprietary and revenue-generating activities. 4185 04:43:50,160 --> 04:43:50,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Question. 4186 04:43:51,540 --> 04:43:52,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Why is an additional appropriation? 4187 04:43:53,040 --> 04:43:55,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Why is an additional 5 billion in national government support 4188 04:43:55,360 --> 04:43:59,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: being coursed through the PRA for the PIEC 4189 04:43:59,420 --> 04:44:03,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: considering that the project is being implemented 4190 04:44:03,480 --> 04:44:06,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by the Department of Public Works and Highways 4191 04:44:06,560 --> 04:44:08,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the Office of the President? 4192 04:44:12,980 --> 04:44:14,420 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Madam Speaker, 4193 04:44:15,500 --> 04:44:17,380 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, 4194 04:44:17,580 --> 04:44:20,820 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ang project po natin. 4195 04:44:23,040 --> 04:44:30,200 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ang unang dalawang SARO po kasi ng project ay 4196 04:44:30,200 --> 04:44:35,600 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: nanggaling na sa Office of the President. 4197 04:44:36,520 --> 04:44:37,380 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Pero ngayon po 4198 04:44:38,480 --> 04:44:40,220 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: humihingi po kami 4199 04:44:40,480 --> 04:44:41,020 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: siyempre 4200 04:44:41,140 --> 04:44:42,220 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ng kaukulang pondo 4201 04:44:42,220 --> 04:44:44,180 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: dito na sa atin. 4202 04:44:44,180 --> 04:44:45,280 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Dahil po 4203 04:44:45,280 --> 04:44:50,320 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ang DPWH naman po 4204 04:44:50,320 --> 04:44:51,040 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: siyempre 4205 04:44:51,040 --> 04:44:52,480 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: nagkaroon tayo ng 4206 04:44:52,480 --> 04:44:55,880 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: MOA 4207 04:44:55,880 --> 04:45:02,160 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: dahil sila ang mas higit na nakakaalam sa implementation ng proyekto. 4208 04:45:02,680 --> 04:45:08,380 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Kaya po, nararapat lang na ang DPWH ang mag-implement ng project. 4209 04:45:13,120 --> 04:45:25,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, my follow-up question is, what is the precise financial responsibility of the PRA, the Department of Public Works and Highways, and the Office of the President for the project? 4210 04:45:25,380 --> 04:45:33,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And which entity will own, operate, maintain, and receive revenues from the completed facility? 4211 04:45:35,080 --> 04:45:50,220 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Madam Speaker, Your Honor, PRA handles the government asset and project side, while DPWH handles the procurement, design, and construction. 4212 04:45:51,840 --> 04:45:55,220 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ang project naman po ay para sa nasyonal. 4213 04:45:55,380 --> 04:46:01,580 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Government under the Office of the President. 4214 04:46:02,680 --> 04:46:10,380 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: At ito po ay sinama sa list of infrastructure project, flagship project ng pamahalaan. 4215 04:46:11,560 --> 04:46:17,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Kapag natapos na po ang PIEC, pangangasiwaan po ito ng PRA. 4216 04:46:18,360 --> 04:46:24,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So, ang revenue po na makukuha dito ay makakadagdag 4217 04:46:25,380 --> 04:46:28,360 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: sa dibidendo na ibinibigay ng PRA sa pamahalaan. 4218 04:46:28,360 --> 04:46:36,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, in short, Madam Speaker, once the project has been completed, PRA na po ang magpapatakbo. Tama ho ba yun? 4219 04:46:37,000 --> 04:46:37,560 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. 4220 04:46:39,060 --> 04:46:53,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Next, what alternative financing arrangements including PRA corporate funds, land development, revenues, borrowings, or private participation were evaluated before additional national government funding was sought? 4221 04:46:53,860 --> 04:46:55,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ito po ba 4222 04:46:55,360 --> 04:46:59,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pinag-aralang mabuti bago po kayo humingi ng national government funding? 4223 04:47:00,680 --> 04:47:08,320 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ah, yes po. Ito po ay pinag-aralang mabuti bago po kami humingi ng pondo. 4224 04:47:10,320 --> 04:47:24,500 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ayon po kasi sa CAVCOM approval, NEDA board confirmation at RDC approval, ang national government ang gagastos ng project cost. 4225 04:47:24,500 --> 04:47:28,480 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: At ang PRA naman, ang contribution niya ay yung lupa. 4226 04:47:31,880 --> 04:47:42,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay. What return, whether through revenue, employment, tourism receipts, or appreciation of public land, should taxpayers expect from this investment? 4227 04:47:42,740 --> 04:47:57,240 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ang financial and economic benefits po ay evaluated ng NEDA. 4228 04:47:57,240 --> 04:48:11,980 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ah, 1.33 trillion pesos, absolute peso value of total net economic benefits over 50 years based on conservative assumption. 4229 04:48:12,740 --> 04:48:29,900 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And 377.7 billion pesos, absolute peso value of total net financial benefit over 50 years based on conservative assumptions. 4230 04:48:29,900 --> 04:48:42,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, Madam Speaker, if the PIEC eventually generates a profit, will the national government recover its 5 billion contribution before revenues are retained? 4231 04:48:42,500 --> 04:48:50,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Or distributed elsewhere? Ito po ba ibabalik sa gobyerno o i-dedistribute po sa iba-ibang departamento? 4232 04:48:51,740 --> 04:48:52,380 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. 4233 04:48:53,680 --> 04:49:02,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Which particular department po or agencies ang makikinabang dito once na-recover po itong 5 billion contribution ng national government? 4234 04:49:04,920 --> 04:49:11,660 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Siyempre po, ang makikinabang dito, ang ating unang-una, ang BIR. 4235 04:49:12,500 --> 04:49:15,900 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Kasi, siyempre, yung papasok na profit sa atin. 4236 04:49:17,180 --> 04:49:26,200 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And ikalawa po, inaasahang lilikha ito ng trabaho, negosyo para sa mga, especially yung sa mga hotels po. 4237 04:49:26,820 --> 04:49:30,800 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Kasi napapaikutan siya ng establishment. 4238 04:49:31,800 --> 04:49:39,420 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Of course, pag may convention, so yun po ang papasok na income sa gobyerno. 4239 04:49:39,780 --> 04:49:42,460 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: At ang ikatlo po, lalaki. 4240 04:49:42,500 --> 04:49:50,360 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ang turismo sa Pilipinas, dahil tayo po ay, alam natin, napag-iiwanan na rin natin. 4241 04:49:50,600 --> 04:50:01,280 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Napag-iiwanan na tayo kasi wala nga tayong mapagdausan ng malaking mga events sa Pilipinas. 4242 04:50:02,340 --> 04:50:03,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 4243 04:50:04,320 --> 04:50:08,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The PIEC is reported to cost approximately 27 billion. 4244 04:50:08,720 --> 04:50:09,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Tama ho ba ito? 4245 04:50:10,500 --> 04:50:12,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 27 billion ang total na... 4246 04:50:12,120 --> 04:50:12,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yes. 4247 04:50:12,500 --> 04:50:15,180 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: 27 billion. 4248 04:50:16,340 --> 04:50:27,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And then your target will be this year, 40% lang po ang completion and the rest will be on 2027 by the end of 2027. 4249 04:50:28,120 --> 04:50:33,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ito ba yung makukumpleto natin before the end of 2027? Itong project na ito? 4250 04:50:33,960 --> 04:50:38,360 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Hindi pa po natin makukumpleto ang proyekto ngayong 2027. 4251 04:50:40,020 --> 04:50:42,360 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ang inish, ang inaasahan po natin makukumpleto. 4252 04:50:42,500 --> 04:50:45,560 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ito ang proyekto ay sa April 2028. 4253 04:50:46,120 --> 04:50:46,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: April? 4254 04:50:47,720 --> 04:50:48,520 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: 2028 po. 4255 04:50:48,540 --> 04:50:49,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2028. 4256 04:50:49,500 --> 04:50:50,020 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. 4257 04:50:53,980 --> 04:51:06,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, my next question, what is the complete funding and implementation plan for the PIEC from initial design through construction, equipment procurement, testing, and opening? 4258 04:51:06,020 --> 04:51:14,940 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So, ang kalahatang pondo nga po natin is 27 billion. 4259 04:51:16,940 --> 04:51:20,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, it's related to my first question. 4260 04:51:21,140 --> 04:51:26,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What portion of the estimated 27 billion cost remains unfunded? 4261 04:51:27,380 --> 04:51:29,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Magkano po yung kailangan nyo pa po? 4262 04:51:29,860 --> 04:51:29,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay. 4263 04:51:33,020 --> 04:51:34,860 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ang kakulangan pa po natin... 4264 04:51:36,020 --> 04:51:45,040 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Pondo ay yung 5 billion at saka yung 10 billion para po makumpleto natin ang ating PIEC. 4265 04:51:46,700 --> 04:51:57,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, while phase 1 reached only 90% completion by the end of 2027, kasama doon po ba yung 5 billion na i-appropriate na? 4266 04:51:57,860 --> 04:51:59,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: O ito po'y kukulangin pa? 4267 04:52:01,700 --> 04:52:02,600 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Kumpleto po. 4268 04:52:02,840 --> 04:52:04,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasama na yung 5 billion by 2027. 4269 04:52:04,820 --> 04:52:05,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, the... 4270 04:52:06,020 --> 04:52:11,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The 5 billion additional fund, ito na po ang magtatapos o kukumpleto yun? 4271 04:52:11,860 --> 04:52:12,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: No, hindi po. 4272 04:52:12,920 --> 04:52:14,460 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Phase 1 pa lang po yun. 4273 04:52:14,700 --> 04:52:16,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, yung phase 1 kasama yung 5 billion. 4274 04:52:16,920 --> 04:52:17,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, yung phase 2 po... 4275 04:52:17,980 --> 04:52:27,600 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yung phase 2 po, yun yung magtatapos po ng ating construction building, yung PIEC ng 10 billion pa po. 4276 04:52:27,800 --> 04:52:28,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And that's the remaining? 4277 04:52:29,180 --> 04:52:29,540 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes. 4278 04:52:29,540 --> 04:52:30,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yung sinama nyo na ba? 4279 04:52:30,460 --> 04:52:33,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pinaktor na po yung inflation rate, lahat po kasama na dyan. 4280 04:52:34,000 --> 04:52:35,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pati yung dollar po natin habang ngayon. 4281 04:52:36,020 --> 04:52:36,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Tumataas pa? 4282 04:52:37,840 --> 04:52:38,360 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. 4283 04:52:38,700 --> 04:52:39,640 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Anticipated na po. 4284 04:52:39,900 --> 04:52:40,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay. 4285 04:52:42,560 --> 04:52:47,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My next question, climate resilience of a facility built on a reclaimed land. 4286 04:52:47,780 --> 04:52:49,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi ito po lagi problema natin, no? 4287 04:52:49,680 --> 04:52:51,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pag the property is being reclaimed. 4288 04:52:52,280 --> 04:52:55,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The PIEC is being built on reclaimed land in Manila Bay. 4289 04:52:56,140 --> 04:53:02,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: An area exposed to typhoons, storm surge, sea level rise, land subsidence, 4290 04:53:04,140 --> 04:53:04,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: liquefaction, 4291 04:53:06,020 --> 04:53:06,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and flooding. 4292 04:53:07,180 --> 04:53:14,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: A facility expected to operate for several decades must be designed for future climate conditions 4293 04:53:14,280 --> 04:53:17,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: rather than only historical averages. 4294 04:53:18,400 --> 04:53:18,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Question. 4295 04:53:19,580 --> 04:53:27,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What climate and geotechnical standards were used in designing the PIEC and its reclaimed site? 4296 04:53:27,820 --> 04:53:29,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ito po kasi nagiging problema ngayon. 4297 04:53:29,700 --> 04:53:33,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pag ano, sa Japan nga po, yung airport nila, every year po, 4298 04:53:33,860 --> 04:53:35,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nag-ano, nag-a... 4299 04:53:36,020 --> 04:53:37,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Magsisig, bumababa po. 4300 04:53:37,780 --> 04:53:38,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi ito po, malaki. 4301 04:53:38,980 --> 04:53:41,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: We're talking about 27 billion plus 10 billion pa. 4302 04:53:42,000 --> 04:53:45,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kung sakali po lumabog to or magka-problema. 4303 04:53:45,960 --> 04:53:50,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Alam niyo po, ang ating bansa, tayo po yung pinakapaborito ng mga... 4304 04:53:50,300 --> 04:53:51,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ng typhoons. 4305 04:53:51,820 --> 04:53:56,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Lagi nilang every year, not less than 20 typhoons na dumatid po sa atin. 4306 04:53:57,320 --> 04:53:57,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Your comment? 4307 04:53:58,940 --> 04:54:00,520 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Madam Speaker, Your Honor, 4308 04:54:00,520 --> 04:54:05,340 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: hindi po ako naniniwala, nalulubog. 4309 04:54:05,340 --> 04:54:08,680 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Kasi po, pinag-aralan natin, pinag-aralan ito. 4310 04:54:09,120 --> 04:54:11,860 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Hindi lang naman po ang DNR ang nag-aral dito. 4311 04:54:12,360 --> 04:54:17,000 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So, una po, sa climate resilient design, 4312 04:54:17,920 --> 04:54:24,080 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: nagsasagawa po ng risk assessment upang matukoy ang climate related risk. 4313 04:54:25,560 --> 04:54:28,780 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yun na nga po, particular ang flooding, storm, 4314 04:54:28,780 --> 04:54:35,320 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ay sinasagawa po at kinakailangan ng resilient measures sa design ng pasis. 4315 04:54:35,340 --> 04:54:38,820 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: At ikalawa po, para sa flood protection, 4316 04:54:39,480 --> 04:54:46,760 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ang structure po ay disinenyong elevate above the applicable base flood levels 4317 04:54:46,760 --> 04:54:53,640 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: at magkakaroon ng flood barriers upang mabawasan ang exposure sa potential flood. 4318 04:54:55,020 --> 04:54:58,120 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: At ikatlo po, para sa heat mitigation, 4319 04:54:59,120 --> 04:55:02,660 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: kasama sa design ang passive cooling strategies 4320 04:55:03,180 --> 04:55:05,120 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: gaya ng natural ventilation. 4321 04:55:05,340 --> 04:55:17,840 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Shading, reflective roofing materials, at urban greening upang mabawasan ng heat gain at energy consumption. 4322 04:55:18,840 --> 04:55:20,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, in short, sino ang contractor dito? 4323 04:55:20,780 --> 04:55:24,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is it foreign or local po ang nanaro? 4324 04:55:24,280 --> 04:55:26,240 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Actually po, hindi pa naman po. 4325 04:55:29,240 --> 04:55:31,520 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yung phase 1 po is EEI. 4326 04:55:31,520 --> 04:55:34,320 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So, itong second phase po natin, 4327 04:55:34,460 --> 04:55:35,320 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: hindi pa naman po, 4328 04:55:35,340 --> 04:55:36,240 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: nabibid. 4329 04:55:37,120 --> 04:55:39,080 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Kung mabibigyan po ng pagkakataon nga 4330 04:55:39,080 --> 04:55:41,100 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: para matuloy ang proyekto natin na ito, 4331 04:55:42,220 --> 04:55:43,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ay saka pa lang po ibibid 4332 04:55:43,700 --> 04:55:45,240 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: pag may pera na itong hawak. 4333 04:55:46,740 --> 04:55:48,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ito ang kasi karamihan tinatanong, 4334 04:55:49,220 --> 04:55:55,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is the project undergone an independent climate risk stress test. 4335 04:55:57,620 --> 04:56:01,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Meron mo ba kayo na-hire na independent na very familiar 4336 04:56:01,440 --> 04:56:04,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or ito po talagang kanilang forte 4337 04:56:04,420 --> 04:56:10,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sa mga ganitong reclaimed site or area or land po 4338 04:56:10,260 --> 04:56:13,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: na climate risk stress test? 4339 04:56:13,400 --> 04:56:13,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sino po? 4340 04:56:14,000 --> 04:56:17,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Meron mo kayong independent na kinuha na mag-survey? 4341 04:56:17,580 --> 04:56:18,220 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Meron po. 4342 04:56:18,360 --> 04:56:22,200 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Meron po siyempre independent agency na survey po. 4343 04:56:22,200 --> 04:56:23,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: O kung ilan po sila? 4344 04:56:23,340 --> 04:56:23,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Isa lang ho ba? 4345 04:56:23,900 --> 04:56:25,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano? 4346 04:56:44,420 --> 04:56:49,320 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Anong survey po niya na yung Royal Asconis? 4347 04:56:49,880 --> 04:56:55,360 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Royal Asconis. 4348 04:56:55,840 --> 04:56:58,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: From, siguro, I guess from Europe to, no? 4349 04:56:59,600 --> 04:57:00,120 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. 4350 04:57:00,400 --> 04:57:01,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Which particular? 4351 04:57:01,880 --> 04:57:02,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Dutch. 4352 04:57:02,200 --> 04:57:03,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay, Dutch. 4353 04:57:04,420 --> 04:57:06,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, my follow-up question is also related, no? 4354 04:57:07,320 --> 04:57:07,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Alam nyo, no? 4355 04:57:07,800 --> 04:57:10,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Once na matapos na natin itong proyektong to, 4356 04:57:11,400 --> 04:57:16,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: hindi lang po dyan nagtatapos yung ating pagbabantay, no? 4357 04:57:16,640 --> 04:57:18,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Although maganda yung project, 4358 04:57:18,760 --> 04:57:21,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nagkaroon ng independent stress test, 4359 04:57:21,200 --> 04:57:24,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: pero alam nyo po, ang climate natin, every year, nagbabago. 4360 04:57:25,380 --> 04:57:27,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Who will pay for the future seawalls, 4361 04:57:28,260 --> 04:57:31,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ground stabilization or elevation works 4362 04:57:31,320 --> 04:57:34,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: if climate conditions exceed, 4363 04:57:34,420 --> 04:57:35,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the original assumption? 4364 04:57:35,880 --> 04:57:36,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Alam po natin, eh, 4365 04:57:37,220 --> 04:57:38,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: pabago-bago po ating panoon. 4366 04:57:38,820 --> 04:57:41,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, the good thing that we did today, 4367 04:57:41,980 --> 04:57:43,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: pagdating 10 years from now, 4368 04:57:43,360 --> 04:57:44,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: magbabago na naman yan. 4369 04:57:44,600 --> 04:57:47,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, sino po yung magmamonitor, 4370 04:57:47,100 --> 04:57:49,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: yung tinatag nating operating, 4371 04:57:49,720 --> 04:57:51,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: operation and maintenance, 4372 04:57:51,060 --> 04:57:54,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sino po ang mag-aalaga nito? 4373 04:57:54,240 --> 04:57:56,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kairin mo po ba sa PRA 4374 04:57:56,480 --> 04:57:59,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: o meron mo kayong independent na kukunin 4375 04:57:59,480 --> 04:58:02,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: just to maintain itong ating facility? 4376 04:58:02,940 --> 04:58:04,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: We're talking about 27 billion. 4377 04:58:04,420 --> 04:58:05,480 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: PRA pa rin po, siyempre. 4378 04:58:06,180 --> 04:58:06,680 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. 4379 04:58:06,880 --> 04:58:07,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sila pa rin po. 4380 04:58:07,820 --> 04:58:08,180 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. 4381 04:58:08,180 --> 04:58:11,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, do you have enough technical people 4382 04:58:11,580 --> 04:58:15,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to maintain itong seawall natin 4383 04:58:15,000 --> 04:58:17,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: o ano man lang itong kailangan gawin dito? 4384 04:58:17,520 --> 04:58:19,100 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Meron po, kasi, di ba, 4385 04:58:19,580 --> 04:58:21,560 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: nagsimula pa naman po ang reclamation, 4386 04:58:21,740 --> 04:58:23,140 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: 1973. 4387 04:58:23,480 --> 04:58:24,520 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ako po nun ay, 4388 04:58:25,100 --> 04:58:26,000 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: hindi ako magkakamali, 4389 04:58:26,120 --> 04:58:27,480 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: apat na taong pa lang ako nun. 4390 04:58:28,360 --> 04:58:29,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So, nabukin nyo ang edad ko. 4391 04:58:29,940 --> 04:58:32,620 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So, wala naman po, di ba, 4392 04:58:32,620 --> 04:58:34,240 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: wala naman tayong nabalitaan. 4393 04:58:34,420 --> 04:58:36,040 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ganong mga incident. 4394 04:58:36,340 --> 04:58:38,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That's very enlightening, no? 4395 04:58:39,120 --> 04:58:41,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For how many years na nireclaim natin, 4396 04:58:41,420 --> 04:58:42,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: not even one, 4397 04:58:42,980 --> 04:58:46,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: na talagang sinabi na tinamaan 4398 04:58:46,220 --> 04:58:48,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or nagsubside 4399 04:58:48,560 --> 04:58:49,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or nawala. 4400 04:58:49,960 --> 04:58:51,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Naging tubig ulit. 4401 04:58:51,320 --> 04:58:52,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Siguro wala pa nangyayaring ganyan, no? 4402 04:58:53,240 --> 04:58:54,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In the history of PRA. 4403 04:58:55,200 --> 04:58:57,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, congratulations sa inyo, PRA, no? 4404 04:58:57,540 --> 04:58:58,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For doing a good job. 4405 04:58:58,600 --> 04:59:01,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, I want to go to my second to the last question. 4406 04:59:01,860 --> 04:59:03,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Status of Manila Bay reclamation 4407 04:59:04,420 --> 04:59:05,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: moratorium. 4408 04:59:06,400 --> 04:59:07,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The President suspended 4409 04:59:07,800 --> 04:59:10,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Manila Bay reclamation projects 4410 04:59:10,280 --> 04:59:11,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in 2023. 4411 04:59:12,300 --> 04:59:13,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pending review. 4412 04:59:13,900 --> 04:59:15,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The suspension was later lifted 4413 04:59:15,760 --> 04:59:18,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for certain PASAY projects 4414 04:59:18,600 --> 04:59:20,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: after compliance review 4415 04:59:20,440 --> 04:59:21,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: while other projects 4416 04:59:21,800 --> 04:59:24,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: remained suspended pending assessment. 4417 04:59:25,320 --> 04:59:25,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Question. 4418 04:59:26,340 --> 04:59:28,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What is the exact status of every 4419 04:59:28,580 --> 04:59:30,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: reclamation project 4420 04:59:30,200 --> 04:59:32,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: covered by the Manila Bay suspension? 4421 04:59:32,760 --> 04:59:33,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ilan ho ba yung 4422 04:59:33,540 --> 04:59:34,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: until now? 4423 04:59:34,420 --> 04:59:37,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Suspended po 4424 04:59:37,180 --> 04:59:38,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ng mga projects po? 4425 04:59:41,960 --> 04:59:43,260 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, 4426 04:59:43,740 --> 04:59:45,720 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: noong August 4, 4427 04:59:45,940 --> 04:59:46,940 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: 2023, 4428 04:59:47,820 --> 04:59:49,000 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: pinatasan ng Pangulo 4429 04:59:49,000 --> 04:59:50,720 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ang DNR at PRA 4430 04:59:50,720 --> 04:59:52,480 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: na isuspende ang lahat 4431 04:59:52,480 --> 04:59:54,340 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ng reclamation projects 4432 04:59:54,340 --> 04:59:56,280 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: at activities sa Manila Bay. 4433 04:59:56,980 --> 04:59:58,260 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Habang nire-review po 4434 04:59:58,260 --> 05:00:00,000 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ang compliance ng BAU. 4435 05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:06,980 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Bawat proponents sa existing laws, rules, regulation, at environmental requirement. 4436 05:00:07,540 --> 05:00:12,480 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Kasabay po ng pagsasagawa ng cumulative impact assessment. 4437 05:00:12,480 --> 05:00:25,400 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And sa status po ng Manila Bay Reclamation Moratorium, batay po sa kasalo po yung status or matrix na nasa aming records. 4438 05:00:26,320 --> 05:00:28,120 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Sandali lang po at masyadong maliit. 4439 05:00:28,120 --> 05:00:30,120 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Tayo po yung... 4440 05:00:33,740 --> 05:00:47,260 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Apat po yung nalip na yung suspension. So meron pa pong sampo na ten na hindi pa po nalilip yung suspension. 4441 05:00:47,820 --> 05:00:49,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So all in all, fourteen. 4442 05:00:49,680 --> 05:00:50,320 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. 4443 05:00:50,320 --> 05:00:52,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Fourteen. How many were granted? 4444 05:00:54,200 --> 05:00:57,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Na nagtuloy pa rin. Remember there was a suspension in the... 4445 05:00:57,960 --> 05:01:00,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Under review. And then tunuloy po. Diba? 4446 05:01:00,800 --> 05:01:02,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So ilan po yung ongoing projects ngayon? 4447 05:01:03,320 --> 05:01:03,920 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Apat po. 4448 05:01:04,140 --> 05:01:04,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Apat? 4449 05:01:04,840 --> 05:01:05,280 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. 4450 05:01:05,500 --> 05:01:09,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So hindi pala fourteen. Four at ten yung suspension. 4451 05:01:09,540 --> 05:01:10,380 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Four at ten po. 4452 05:01:10,540 --> 05:01:15,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay. So in totality, ilan po ang total hectares natin sa Manila Bay ngayon? 4453 05:01:16,540 --> 05:01:19,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yung ginagawa at saka yung dati na nagawa? 4454 05:01:38,980 --> 05:01:48,160 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, ang ating pong ongoing projects ay 625 hectares. 4455 05:01:50,340 --> 05:01:57,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: At yung mga dati po na nakalagay ngayon sa Manila Bay, yung MOA, yung mga hotels doon, ilan po yun total? 4456 05:01:57,960 --> 05:02:01,860 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: 700 hectares po, Your Honor. 4457 05:02:02,800 --> 05:02:10,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So all in all, sa Manila Bay, reclaimed lang, nasa almost 1,325 hectares? 4458 05:02:10,420 --> 05:02:11,420 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po, Your Honor. 4459 05:02:11,420 --> 05:02:18,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, ito, hypothetical po, magmula po doon sa Ross Boulevard, 4460 05:02:19,240 --> 05:02:24,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: kung saan doon talaga ano, going there to 1,600, 1,325, 4461 05:02:25,000 --> 05:02:27,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: mga ilang kilometro po ang ating na-reclaimed? 4462 05:02:27,960 --> 05:02:29,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: All the way po, hanggang doon. 4463 05:02:30,440 --> 05:02:31,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So this is a ballpark figure. 4464 05:02:32,340 --> 05:02:36,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But at least may idea tayo kung gano'n nakahaba yung ating na-re-reclaimed. 4465 05:02:37,460 --> 05:02:41,500 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, more or less po, seven kilometers. 4466 05:02:41,980 --> 05:02:45,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: From the start ng Ross Boulevard pa gano'n, seven kilometers? 4467 05:02:46,000 --> 05:02:46,420 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. 4468 05:02:47,300 --> 05:02:50,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Hindi ko na itatanong kung gano'n nakalalim yung mga tubig doon. 4469 05:02:50,600 --> 05:02:52,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sigurado ko, it's going to be deep. 4470 05:02:52,620 --> 05:02:57,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, I'm going to be, my last question, kasi maraming magtatanong din tungkol dito. 4471 05:02:57,960 --> 05:03:04,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, I would like to end my question na cumulative environment impact on Manila Bay. 4472 05:03:04,020 --> 05:03:10,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: An environmental compliance certificate typically evaluates an individual project. 4473 05:03:11,320 --> 05:03:17,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Manila Bay, however, may be affected by the combined effects of multiple reclamation projects 4474 05:03:17,780 --> 05:03:25,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: on water circulation, flooding, fisheries, sediment, movement, and coastal ecosystem. 4475 05:03:26,280 --> 05:03:26,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Question. 4476 05:03:27,480 --> 05:03:27,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What? 4477 05:03:27,940 --> 05:03:34,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What is the present status of the government's cumulative impact assessment for Manila Bay reclamation? 4478 05:03:35,240 --> 05:03:37,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What has been completed to date? 4479 05:03:37,860 --> 05:03:40,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And when will the final assessment be available? 4480 05:03:54,880 --> 05:03:57,920 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, yung phase one po natin is, 4481 05:03:57,940 --> 05:03:59,460 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: completed na po yun. 4482 05:04:00,660 --> 05:04:10,680 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So, ang status po ay ongoing po yung iba kasi sinasagawa ng DNR. 4483 05:04:13,060 --> 05:04:17,080 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: May mga regulatory options ang government. 4484 05:04:18,040 --> 05:04:24,840 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And ito po ay may mga additional mitigation, redesign, or modification imposed strictly condition. 4485 05:04:26,240 --> 05:04:27,800 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So, Your Honor, 4486 05:04:27,940 --> 05:04:37,820 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: as I said, completed na po ang phase one ng cumulative impact assessment or CIA na ay sinasagawa ng DNR 4487 05:04:37,820 --> 05:04:44,280 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: sa pamamagitan ng Marine Environmental and Resources Foundation Incorporated. 4488 05:04:45,180 --> 05:04:50,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ang resulta po ng phase one CIA study para sa Manila Bay reclamation project 4489 05:04:50,700 --> 05:04:55,680 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ay tinalakay na rin po ng DNR noong December 2025. 4490 05:04:55,680 --> 05:05:06,680 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And noong March 2026 po, nagsagawa na rin ng meetings kasama mga proponents ng Manila Bay reclamation projects 4491 05:05:07,380 --> 05:05:20,020 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: upang maisagawa ang findings at recommendation ng CIA sa Environmental Compliance Certificate or ECC Condition at Environmental Impact. 4492 05:05:21,260 --> 05:05:22,120 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor. 4493 05:05:22,880 --> 05:05:25,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker, for my last question. 4494 05:05:25,680 --> 05:05:35,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If the assessment identifies cumulative impact that cannot be adequately mitigated under the existing project configuration, 4495 05:05:35,200 --> 05:05:44,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: what regulatory options are available to modify, suspend, or discontinue affected projects? 4496 05:05:46,120 --> 05:05:47,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Napaka-importante po yun ito. 4497 05:05:48,280 --> 05:05:49,440 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po, Your Honor. 4498 05:05:51,200 --> 05:05:55,200 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Kung matukoy po sa cumulative impact assessment na may significance, 4499 05:05:55,680 --> 05:06:05,600 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: can cumulative impact na hindi sapat na ma-address sa kasalukuyang configuration ng isang proyekto, 4500 05:06:05,600 --> 05:06:10,720 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: hindi kailangang manatili ang proyekto sa original na design nito. 4501 05:06:11,880 --> 05:06:20,900 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Sa ilalim po ng regulatory framework, maaaring i-require ang additional mitigation measures, 4502 05:06:21,560 --> 05:06:24,960 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: pagbabago sa project configuration o scope of work, 4503 05:06:24,960 --> 05:06:30,880 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: at amendments sa environmental condition bago payagang magpatuloy. 4504 05:06:31,040 --> 05:06:31,520 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor. 4505 05:06:32,400 --> 05:06:40,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, Madam Speaker, I'm convinced that PRA, they're doing a good job when it comes to reclaimed area. 4506 05:06:40,900 --> 05:06:47,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I hope one day, sana hindi ako mangyayari na lulubog po yung mga nireclaimed natin 4507 05:06:47,520 --> 05:06:52,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: dahil kawawa naman po ang ating mga kababayan at yung mga nag-invest dito po. 4508 05:06:52,880 --> 05:06:54,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, thank you very much. 4509 05:06:54,960 --> 05:06:56,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, thank you very much. 4510 05:06:56,480 --> 05:06:57,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Maraming salamat po. 4511 05:06:57,120 --> 05:06:57,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: PRA family. 4512 05:06:58,900 --> 05:06:59,720 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4513 05:07:14,460 --> 05:07:15,380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4514 05:07:17,300 --> 05:07:24,240 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Honorable Percy Cendaña, the Akbayan Party-list, 4515 05:07:24,240 --> 05:07:27,960 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: to interpolate on the proposed budget of the PRA. 4516 05:07:28,440 --> 05:07:32,060 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Percy Cendaña of Akbayan Party-list is hereby recognized. 4517 05:07:33,200 --> 05:07:39,020 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Magandang hapon po sa ating mga kasama sa kapulungan ito 4518 05:07:39,020 --> 05:07:45,700 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at sa ating pong very able sponsor of the budget of the PRA, Representative Josefina Taliado. 4519 05:07:45,840 --> 05:07:48,220 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Magandang hapon po sa inyo at sa buong PRA family. 4520 05:07:48,600 --> 05:07:49,520 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Magandang hapon po. 4521 05:07:49,520 --> 05:07:53,880 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Dito pong nakaraang Agosto, naranasan sa Pasay, 4522 05:07:53,880 --> 05:07:55,160 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang dust cloud. 4523 05:07:55,800 --> 05:07:59,380 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Dahil daw di umano sa kapal na alikabok sa paligid. 4524 05:08:00,260 --> 05:08:05,740 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Patay sa ulat, maaring may kinalaman ito sa reclamation projects sa Manila Bay. 4525 05:08:06,420 --> 05:08:10,180 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ano po ang mitigation mechanisms? 4526 05:08:10,460 --> 05:08:16,160 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Meron po bang built-in na mga protection mechanisms dun po sa kontrata 4527 05:08:16,160 --> 05:08:20,840 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng mga gumagawa ng proyektong ito para po maprotektahan ang ating mga kababayan 4528 05:08:20,840 --> 05:08:23,740 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa ganito pong mga insidente na talaga, 4529 05:08:23,880 --> 05:08:26,420 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na mga nakakapekto sa mga batang pumapasok sa eskwela, 4530 05:08:26,420 --> 05:08:28,420 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: lalo na yung may mga problema sa baga. 4531 05:08:28,420 --> 05:08:31,920 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At ganoon po sa mga kababayan natin na nag-commute papuntang trabaho. 4532 05:08:31,920 --> 05:08:38,400 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. 4533 05:08:38,400 --> 05:08:40,400 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Meron pong ah, 4534 05:08:40,400 --> 05:08:45,220 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ah, nung last August 26 po, 4535 05:08:45,220 --> 05:08:50,760 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ayun, 2026, a heavy dust cloud sweep across Jocno Boulevard and Pasay City, sharply reducing, 4536 05:08:50,760 --> 05:08:56,960 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: sharply reducing visibility near the Senate of the Philippines. 4537 05:08:56,960 --> 05:09:00,560 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ano po ba ang cause nito? 4538 05:09:00,560 --> 05:09:09,300 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Unang-una, sinasabi nila, reclamation sand, strong wind, whip up, loose, dry sand, and pine dirt 4539 05:09:09,300 --> 05:09:14,660 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: from ongoing land reclamation project along Manila Bay. 4540 05:09:14,660 --> 05:09:16,660 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Weather trigger? 4541 05:09:18,600 --> 05:09:20,600 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: The Philippine Atmospheric Geographic Center, 4542 05:09:20,600 --> 05:09:25,600 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Tropical and Astronomical Service Administration, Pagas, 4543 05:09:25,600 --> 05:09:35,600 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: explained that the sudden haze was driven by a strong gas front from an approaching thunderstorm 4544 05:09:35,600 --> 05:09:39,600 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: tied to the southwest monsoon or habagat po. 4545 05:09:39,600 --> 05:09:48,800 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Not a true sandstorm, weather specialists clarified it was a short-lived localized gas. 4546 05:09:55,900 --> 05:09:58,100 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: rather than a meteorological sandstorm 4547 05:09:58,100 --> 05:10:00,160 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: because the phenomenon was brief 4548 05:10:00,160 --> 05:10:01,940 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: and restricted 4549 05:10:01,940 --> 05:10:03,920 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: to the immediate coastal and 4550 05:10:03,920 --> 05:10:04,820 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: bay area. 4551 05:10:06,360 --> 05:10:08,060 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Environmental and health 4552 05:10:08,060 --> 05:10:09,540 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: concern, air quality, 4553 05:10:09,820 --> 05:10:11,640 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: the pine particulate 4554 05:10:11,640 --> 05:10:13,680 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: matter kick up 4555 05:10:13,680 --> 05:10:15,980 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: into the air, raise concern about 4556 05:10:15,980 --> 05:10:17,180 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: localized 4557 05:10:17,180 --> 05:10:19,080 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: air pollution. 4558 05:10:20,600 --> 05:10:22,200 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Health risk residents, 4559 05:10:22,800 --> 05:10:24,240 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: commuter, and workers 4560 05:10:24,240 --> 05:10:26,180 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: in the area, especially 4561 05:10:26,180 --> 05:10:28,060 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: those with asthma or other 4562 05:10:28,060 --> 05:10:30,160 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: respiratory issues, were 4563 05:10:30,160 --> 05:10:31,860 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: advised to limit 4564 05:10:31,860 --> 05:10:34,180 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: exposure and wear 4565 05:10:34,180 --> 05:10:34,720 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: masks. 4566 05:10:36,780 --> 05:10:37,920 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: On August 26, 4567 05:10:38,080 --> 05:10:38,500 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, 4568 05:10:39,580 --> 05:10:41,980 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: strong winds 4569 05:10:41,980 --> 05:10:44,260 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: from an approaching thunderstorm 4570 05:10:44,260 --> 05:10:45,600 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: in the southwest 4571 05:10:45,600 --> 05:10:47,280 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: monsoon, Habagat, 4572 05:10:47,840 --> 05:10:50,080 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: kick up loose sand and sediment 4573 05:10:50,080 --> 05:10:52,100 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: from nearby 4574 05:10:52,100 --> 05:10:54,100 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Manila Bay, reclamation 4575 05:10:54,100 --> 05:10:55,500 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: site. What happened? 4576 05:10:56,340 --> 05:10:57,720 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Low visibility, 4577 05:10:58,860 --> 05:11:00,040 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: heavy dust cloud 4578 05:11:00,040 --> 05:11:01,280 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: sweep across 4579 05:11:01,280 --> 05:11:03,760 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Jocno Boulevard in Paisay City 4580 05:11:03,760 --> 05:11:05,480 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: around 2 p.m. shortly, 4581 05:11:06,040 --> 05:11:07,380 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: reducing visibility. 4582 05:11:09,760 --> 05:11:10,720 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, 4583 05:11:11,600 --> 05:11:13,380 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Sponsor, 4584 05:11:13,980 --> 05:11:15,660 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: malinaw po kung wala itong 4585 05:11:15,660 --> 05:11:17,420 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: proyektong ito dyan sa area 4586 05:11:17,420 --> 05:11:19,660 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at nagkaroon po ng ganyang meteorological 4587 05:11:19,660 --> 05:11:22,020 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: phenomenon. Andala po ng malakas 4588 05:11:22,020 --> 05:11:23,880 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa hangin, hindi po magkakaroon itong 4589 05:11:23,880 --> 05:11:25,880 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: dust cloud doon po sa lugar 4590 05:11:25,880 --> 05:11:27,840 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na ito. Inuulit ko po, ang tanong 4591 05:11:27,840 --> 05:11:30,000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: natin ay, ano po ang mitigation 4592 05:11:30,000 --> 05:11:31,660 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mechanisms, 4593 05:11:33,160 --> 05:11:34,040 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: processes na 4594 05:11:34,040 --> 05:11:35,860 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: kinakailang in place para po hindi 4595 05:11:35,860 --> 05:11:37,960 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na muling maulit yung ganito 4596 05:11:37,960 --> 05:11:40,060 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: pong pangyayari. Kasi po 4597 05:11:40,060 --> 05:11:41,740 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: habang nagaganap ang maraming mga 4598 05:11:41,740 --> 05:11:43,640 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: proyekto at mayroon pa rin po 4599 05:11:43,640 --> 05:11:45,860 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mga ganyang meteorological 4600 05:11:45,860 --> 05:11:47,920 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: incidences, maaari 4601 05:11:47,920 --> 05:11:49,700 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: pa rin pong paulit-ulit na 4602 05:11:49,700 --> 05:11:51,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mangyari ito. So doon po ba sa ating 4603 05:11:51,980 --> 05:11:53,820 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mga kontrata, sa mga gumagawa, 4604 05:11:53,880 --> 05:11:55,800 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mga proyektong ito, doon po sa permiso 4605 05:11:55,800 --> 05:11:57,560 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na binigay ninyo, mayroon po ba 4606 05:11:57,560 --> 05:11:59,500 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: naka-built-in na protection mechanisms? 4607 05:12:04,040 --> 05:12:06,140 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Halimbawa po, mayroon po ba 4608 05:12:06,140 --> 05:12:07,880 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: dapat weather conditions para 4609 05:12:07,880 --> 05:12:09,380 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: i-allow ang 4610 05:12:09,380 --> 05:12:11,740 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: pagtutuloy ng construction o 4611 05:12:11,740 --> 05:12:13,320 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: pagpigil ng operations 4612 05:12:13,320 --> 05:12:15,640 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: para po hindi magkaroon ng ganitong malalang 4613 05:12:15,640 --> 05:12:17,760 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: dust cloud doon sa area na yan? 4614 05:12:19,420 --> 05:12:20,340 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, 4615 05:12:21,840 --> 05:12:23,860 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: nag-recommend po tayo, 4616 05:12:23,880 --> 05:12:25,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ito yung continuous 4617 05:12:25,700 --> 05:12:27,760 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: spraying, water trucks, and 4618 05:12:27,760 --> 05:12:29,540 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: water cannons in place. 4619 05:12:30,260 --> 05:12:31,160 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Dust screens, 4620 05:12:31,960 --> 05:12:33,680 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: physical barrier used to block 4621 05:12:33,680 --> 05:12:35,760 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: dust, dirt, and debris from 4622 05:12:35,760 --> 05:12:37,100 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: spreading 4623 05:12:37,100 --> 05:12:39,380 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: outside a work area. 4624 05:12:40,080 --> 05:12:41,500 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And gusto ko lamang pong 4625 05:12:41,500 --> 05:12:43,420 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: idagdag na ang 4626 05:12:43,420 --> 05:12:45,640 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: reclamation at construction 4627 05:12:45,640 --> 05:12:47,940 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: activities ay maaaring makalikha 4628 05:12:47,940 --> 05:12:50,000 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ng localized dust, 4629 05:12:50,120 --> 05:12:51,400 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: lalo na sa dry earth 4630 05:12:51,400 --> 05:12:53,520 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: movement, compact, 4631 05:12:53,880 --> 05:12:55,820 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: compaction, at exposed 4632 05:12:55,820 --> 05:12:58,160 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: field areas. Pero ito po 4633 05:12:58,160 --> 05:12:59,020 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ay extremely 4634 05:12:59,020 --> 05:13:01,040 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: localized at 4635 05:13:01,040 --> 05:13:03,760 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: at during 4636 05:13:03,760 --> 05:13:06,060 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: construction lang po ito nangyayari. 4637 05:13:06,160 --> 05:13:06,640 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor. 4638 05:13:07,900 --> 05:13:09,920 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, Your Honor, alam po 4639 05:13:09,920 --> 05:13:12,260 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: natin, this could be extremely localized 4640 05:13:12,260 --> 05:13:13,600 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: pero nangyari po ito 4641 05:13:13,600 --> 05:13:15,900 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at naapektuhan po ang ating mga kababayan 4642 05:13:15,900 --> 05:13:17,700 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: doon sa area. Nabanggit nyo po, 4643 05:13:17,780 --> 05:13:20,100 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: naglagay tayo ng mga mitigation at protection 4644 05:13:20,100 --> 05:13:21,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mechanisms. Particular 4645 05:13:21,980 --> 05:13:23,540 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: dyan, yung pag-spray ng tubig, 4646 05:13:23,880 --> 05:13:25,680 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: naglagay ng barriers. Kumusta po 4647 05:13:25,680 --> 05:13:27,860 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang compliance nung pong mga gumagawa 4648 05:13:27,860 --> 05:13:29,520 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng proyekto? Maari po bang 4649 05:13:29,520 --> 05:13:31,880 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: banggiti natin kung ano ang level of compliance 4650 05:13:31,880 --> 05:13:33,500 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at gano'n po kadalas ang 4651 05:13:33,500 --> 05:13:35,640 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: inspection na ginagawa ng PRA? 4652 05:13:37,820 --> 05:13:39,520 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Actually po, Your Honor, 4653 05:13:39,920 --> 05:13:42,140 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ang DNR po ang nag-inspect 4654 05:13:42,140 --> 05:13:42,520 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: sa 4655 05:13:42,520 --> 05:13:44,760 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: construction site. 4656 05:13:45,980 --> 05:13:46,480 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor. 4657 05:13:47,740 --> 05:13:48,060 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Or 4658 05:13:48,060 --> 05:13:52,060 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: EEC 4659 05:13:52,060 --> 05:13:53,820 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: required by DNR, 4660 05:13:53,880 --> 05:13:55,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: DNR, EMB po, Your Honor. 4661 05:13:56,180 --> 05:13:57,860 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Alam po ba natin kung ano 4662 05:13:57,860 --> 05:14:00,020 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang frequency ng kanilang inspection? 4663 05:14:00,140 --> 05:14:02,140 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I'm sure dapat po may sinasabit ding report 4664 05:14:02,140 --> 05:14:03,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa ating ahensya, ang mga ahensya 4665 05:14:03,980 --> 05:14:05,780 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang gumagawa nito as PRA. 4666 05:14:07,920 --> 05:14:09,780 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: The water spray 4667 05:14:09,780 --> 05:14:11,180 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: today po yun. 4668 05:14:11,880 --> 05:14:13,140 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And then we have a regular 4669 05:14:13,140 --> 05:14:15,040 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: multi-part type monitoring 4670 05:14:15,040 --> 05:14:17,320 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ng DNR tsaka other states. 4671 05:14:18,100 --> 05:14:19,020 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, 4672 05:14:19,840 --> 05:14:21,980 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: every day po, ini-inspect 4673 05:14:23,880 --> 05:14:25,720 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ang construction site, 4674 05:14:25,800 --> 05:14:26,180 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor. 4675 05:14:29,100 --> 05:14:31,420 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Can we get the assurance of the PRA 4676 05:14:31,420 --> 05:14:33,720 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na kung every day po ini-inspect at sana 4677 05:14:33,720 --> 05:14:35,820 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: nakaka-comply yung mga 4678 05:14:35,820 --> 05:14:37,840 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: gumagawa ng proyektong ito ay hindi na po 4679 05:14:37,840 --> 05:14:39,560 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mauulit yung ganitong klase 4680 05:14:39,560 --> 05:14:41,900 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng dust cloud, lalo na po 4681 05:14:41,900 --> 05:14:43,780 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa areas na marami tayong 4682 05:14:43,780 --> 05:14:45,340 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mga kababayan ang dumadaan 4683 05:14:45,340 --> 05:14:47,080 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: o kaya naman po nagtatrabaho 4684 05:14:47,080 --> 05:14:49,580 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: o naninirahan sa mga lugar na iyon? 4685 05:14:50,180 --> 05:14:51,880 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po, Your Honor. 4686 05:14:51,880 --> 05:14:53,800 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Rest assured po na hindi 4687 05:14:53,800 --> 05:14:55,400 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: na mauulit yung ganong mga 4688 05:14:55,400 --> 05:14:56,280 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: pangyayari. 4689 05:14:57,280 --> 05:15:00,000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Marami pong salamat Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 4690 05:15:00,220 --> 05:15:05,940 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Balikan ko lang po yung nabanggit kanina na pronouncement ng Pangulong Marcos noong 2023 4691 05:15:05,940 --> 05:15:10,640 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: regarding the suspension of reclamation projects in the Manila Bay. 4692 05:15:11,180 --> 05:15:15,780 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Earlier, binanggit po ninyo, the suspension has been lifted. For the record po, tama po ba? 4693 05:15:17,120 --> 05:15:24,620 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. Apat po yung na-lifted. Meron pa po tayong sampung suspended. 4694 05:15:24,620 --> 05:15:30,860 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So, apat po ang lifted. Mayroon pang sampo na suspended pa. 4695 05:15:31,320 --> 05:15:35,280 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So, ano po ang mangyayari dito po sa sampung projects na suspended pa? 4696 05:15:36,600 --> 05:15:42,620 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Hanggat hindi po sila nakakapagpasa ng requirements na nire-require ng DNR, 4697 05:15:43,540 --> 05:15:49,560 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: hindi po sila mabibigyan, hindi po malilip yung kanilang suspension. 4698 05:15:49,840 --> 05:15:54,440 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, maliban po sa nabanggit ninyo na isang requirement, 4699 05:15:54,880 --> 05:15:59,900 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: para matanggal ang kanilang suspension o ma-lift ang suspension nila ay yung submission 4700 05:15:59,900 --> 05:16:06,820 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng requirements mula sa DNR. Ano pa po yung dahilan? Bakit suspended ang sampung projects na ito? 4701 05:16:11,120 --> 05:16:17,200 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yung result po kasi ng cumulative impact ay hindi pa po lumalabas. 4702 05:16:17,200 --> 05:16:21,500 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Kaya po, hindi pa nalilip yung kanilang suspension, Your Honor. 4703 05:16:22,320 --> 05:16:24,200 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Doon naman po. Maraming salamat, Madam Sponsor. 4704 05:16:24,620 --> 05:16:31,160 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, doon naman po sa apat na na-lift yung suspension, maaari po bang pangalanan natin? 4705 05:16:31,520 --> 05:16:36,000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ano-ano itong apat na proyektong ito? At sino po ang nag-apply ng permiso? 4706 05:16:46,960 --> 05:16:53,460 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, ang lifted na po ang suspension ay ang Manila Waterfront City. 4707 05:16:54,620 --> 05:17:07,880 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Pasay SM Reclamation Project, Pasay Harbor City, at ang Bacoor City na 90 hectares inner island. 4708 05:17:08,440 --> 05:17:12,320 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Pwede rin po bang pangalanan, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, kung sino ang proponent? 4709 05:17:12,760 --> 05:17:17,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Yung mga kumpanya behind. Kasi po, alam ko, conglomerate yung ilan dito sa apat na proyektong ito. 4710 05:17:54,620 --> 05:18:13,880 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, ang may-ari po ng Manila Waterfront City ay ang Manila Waterfront Corporation. 4711 05:18:14,640 --> 05:18:21,440 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ito naman pong PASAIS SM ay SM Corporation po. 4712 05:18:21,440 --> 05:18:35,880 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And ang PASAIS Harbor City po, ang nagmamay-ari po ay ang PASAIS City Local Government, PASAIS Harbor City Corp. 4713 05:18:37,060 --> 05:18:46,320 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And yung pong Bacoor City na 90 hectares ay pag-aari po ng Probel and Robinson, Your Honor. 4714 05:18:46,800 --> 05:18:49,260 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Yung pong sa huli, yung sa Bacoor po, sino po muli? 4715 05:18:51,440 --> 05:18:53,120 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Probel and Robinson. 4716 05:18:54,000 --> 05:18:58,620 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Maraming salamat. Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker. 4717 05:18:59,860 --> 05:19:09,700 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Doon naman po sa mga suspended na mga permits, ano po ang ginagawa ng PRA dito sa sampu na ito? 4718 05:19:09,780 --> 05:19:16,740 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Meron po ba tayong follow-through o hinaya-alaman po natin silang makakompleto ng kanilang mga requirements? 4719 05:19:16,740 --> 05:19:19,820 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At ano po yung timeline natin para sa sampu ito? 4720 05:19:21,440 --> 05:19:42,320 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: About po sa mga suspended natin, depende po yun kung kailan nila matatapos yung ma-comply yung mga requirements na kailangan ma-submit po nila. 4721 05:19:43,120 --> 05:19:46,720 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So, wala po talaga siyang timeline. 4722 05:19:47,560 --> 05:19:51,320 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Depende po yun kung mapapaaga nila na makapag-aaral. 4723 05:19:51,440 --> 05:19:54,800 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Makakomply sila. Nasa sa kanila po yun, Your Honor. 4724 05:19:55,500 --> 05:20:04,140 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Hindi po ba napapaso, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, yung mga ganitong application kung sakali pong hindi nakakakomply fully yung applicant? 4725 05:20:06,440 --> 05:20:12,120 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, depende po yun sa ECC kung papayagan nilang ma-extend. 4726 05:20:13,560 --> 05:20:20,660 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So, halimbawa po itong sampu na ito, hanggang kailan po natin naasahan na po pwede silang makakomply doon sa requirement? 4727 05:20:21,440 --> 05:20:41,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ang live po ng ECC ay five years. So, after five years po at hindi pa sila nakapag-comply, pwede po silang i-apply for extension, Your Honor. 4728 05:20:42,440 --> 05:20:45,080 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. 4729 05:20:45,560 --> 05:20:51,280 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Napakahalaga po kasi itong suspension na binanggit originally ng Presidente, which was eventually lifted. 4730 05:20:51,440 --> 05:20:58,800 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kasi meron ding apat na malalaking kumpanya na natanggalan din ng suspension at nag-proceed yung kanilang mga proyekto. 4731 05:20:59,240 --> 05:21:05,320 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At sa panahon po ngayon na tumitingin talaga ang pagbaha sa Metro Manila at karating pong mga probinsya natin, 4732 05:21:05,600 --> 05:21:15,540 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: talaga pong isa sa tinitingnan ng ating mga kababayan na maaaring dahilan kung bakit ang baha ay hindi ganun kabilis mawala tulad dati na pagbumaha after a few hours 4733 05:21:15,540 --> 05:21:20,720 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: or matagal na yung a few days ay bababa dahil po sa nangyayari yung mga developments na ito. 4734 05:21:21,440 --> 05:21:31,260 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ang tanong po natin ay, how can dredging and reclamation affect the worsening of flooding episodes in the country, particularly in NCR and our nearby provinces? 4735 05:21:51,440 --> 05:22:05,080 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Kaya nga po, nire-require namin na subject po ay for hydrodynamic modeling, flooding studies, and hydraulic studies. 4736 05:22:06,120 --> 05:22:11,580 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So ito pong studies na ito, sino po ang nagko-commission? 4737 05:22:13,240 --> 05:22:15,100 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: UP po, Your Honor. 4738 05:22:15,520 --> 05:22:17,220 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sino po ang nagko-commission sa UP? 4739 05:22:20,320 --> 05:22:21,420 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yung proponent po. 4740 05:22:21,440 --> 05:22:21,980 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor. 4741 05:22:23,460 --> 05:22:31,180 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sige po, mukhang mahalaga po na sa sitwasyon po natin ngayon, hindi dapat sapat na mayroon lamang study na kinomission yung proponent. 4742 05:22:31,680 --> 05:22:41,940 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: The PRA should exercise due diligence in ensuring na ito po ay hindi makaka-apekto sa pagpapalala lalo ng baha sa Metro Manila at mga karating na po. 4743 05:22:42,640 --> 05:22:50,940 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Yung sumunod ko naman po ang tanong, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker, ay paano po ang coastal defense ng mga reclaimed areas? 4744 05:22:51,440 --> 05:23:02,760 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kasi po sila na ngayon yung bago na nasa coast natin. So ano po ang coastal defense mechanisms na mayroon, kung mayroon man, itong mga proyektong ito? 4745 05:23:04,280 --> 05:23:11,160 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kasi baka po sa dulo, sila naman yung susunod na maging problema natin pagdating ng mga storm surge mula po sa area na yan. 4746 05:23:25,000 --> 05:23:32,500 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ah dati po kasi ang seawall natin ay 3 meters lang. So ngayon po, ginawa na po natin siyang 7 meters. 4747 05:23:32,600 --> 05:23:40,540 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So sino po ang magkoconstruct ng seawall dito po sa mga reclaimed areas na ito? Sino po ang gagastos? 4748 05:23:41,900 --> 05:23:45,220 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yung proponent na po, kasi po part po ito ng project. 4749 05:23:45,600 --> 05:23:49,340 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kumusta po yung compliance nila dito po sa provision na ito ng kontrata? 4750 05:23:49,340 --> 05:23:53,400 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Um, ongoing po, Your Honor. 4751 05:23:56,160 --> 05:23:59,240 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And well, monitored po yun, Your Honor. 4752 05:24:00,600 --> 05:24:13,120 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, may request the PRA to submit a report on the compliance on the coastal defense measures that are installed or are being implemented by the proponents of the project. 4753 05:24:14,420 --> 05:24:15,440 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes, Your Honor. 4754 05:24:15,440 --> 05:24:17,860 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you very much, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker. 4755 05:24:17,860 --> 05:24:23,820 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I cannot overemphasize yung fear ng mga kababayan natin sa lumalalang pagbaha na naranasan natin ngayon. 4756 05:24:24,200 --> 05:24:34,200 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Maaring patikim pa lang ito nangyayari sa atin at alam natin na isa sa tinitindahan ng ating mga kababayan ay mga pagkarami-raming reclamation projects na nangyayari sa Manila Bay. 4757 05:24:34,900 --> 05:24:41,840 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kailangan natin suriin ang kaugnayan ng mga reclamation projects sa lumalalang pagbaha sa Metro Manila at mga karating na probinsya. 4758 05:24:42,400 --> 05:24:45,720 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: We need a comprehensive approach to flood mitigation and management. 4759 05:24:45,720 --> 05:24:47,720 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Hindi dapat inaaprobahan ng maramigyan. 4760 05:24:47,860 --> 05:24:53,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sa mga reclamation projects na walang maayos na impact assessment sa flooding sa mga komunidad at walang proper drainage. 4761 05:24:54,520 --> 05:25:05,200 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nakababahala na ang total approved reclamation projects sa Manila Bay, 13 in total ay around 5,000 hectares or about 8% of the total land area of the National Capital Region. 4762 05:25:05,200 --> 05:25:17,180 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Pero hanggang sa ngayon, wala tayong nakikita maayos na integration program para ting sa flood management between these projects and the LGUs around the Manila Bay. 4763 05:25:17,860 --> 05:25:27,220 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, gusto po natin magpasalamat sa ating butihing sponsor at sana po ay makapag-comply ang PRA doon po sa nire-request natin ng mga dokumento. 4764 05:25:27,520 --> 05:25:28,360 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Marami pong salamat. 4765 05:25:28,780 --> 05:25:30,680 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Marami salamat po, Your Honor. 4766 05:25:31,280 --> 05:25:32,040 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4767 05:25:37,940 --> 05:25:42,940 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Sarah Jane Elago to interpolate the sponsor. 4768 05:25:42,940 --> 05:25:47,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party List is hereby recognized. 4769 05:25:47,860 --> 05:26:00,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Sundan ko lang po yung nabuksan na usapin ng ating kasamahan tungkol sa reclamation sa Manila Bay. 4770 05:26:01,940 --> 05:26:08,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ito po ay tungkol doon sa na-aprobahan na na dalawang reclamation projects sa Pasay City. 4771 05:26:08,240 --> 05:26:16,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sang-ayon sa statement ng PRA noong November 24, 2023, pagkatapos ng rigorous evaluation, 4772 05:26:17,860 --> 05:26:27,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakasama ang DENR, ang mga proyektong ito ay nag-adhere na sa mga kondisyon na sinet para sa Environmental Compliance Certificate at Area Clearance. 4773 05:26:27,080 --> 05:26:35,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang dalawang proyektong ito ay ang 265-hectare Pasay Harbor City Reclamation Project ng Pasay Harbor City Corporation 4774 05:26:35,300 --> 05:26:42,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at ang 360-hectare Pasay Reclamation Project ng SM Prime Holdings. 4775 05:26:43,260 --> 05:26:47,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Buong 5 billion peso budget ng PRA para sa 2027 ay nakalaan. 4776 05:26:47,860 --> 05:26:55,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para sa MOOE ng Philippine International Exhibition Center na matatagpuan sa 265-hectare na Pasay Harbor City. 4777 05:26:56,120 --> 05:27:04,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang katanungan ko po, Madam Speaker, sa kabila po ng naisagawang cumulative impact assessment sa Manila Bay reclamation 4778 05:27:04,160 --> 05:27:12,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mayroong matinding epekto sa kabuhayan ng mga manging isda, water circulation, traffic management at pagbaha, 4779 05:27:13,260 --> 05:27:17,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bakit po ba ipinagpapatuloy pa rin ng PRA ang mga proyektong ito? 4780 05:27:24,860 --> 05:27:41,720 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, yung mga nabanggit po na pinayagan magpatuloy matapos ang compliance review ay ang 265-hectare Pasay City Harbor and Development Project 4781 05:27:41,720 --> 05:27:47,760 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ay pinayagang mag-resume noong 2023 matapos ang DNR compliance review. 4782 05:27:47,860 --> 05:27:58,860 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Na nag-kumpirma ng kanilang compliance sa kanilang Environmental Compliance Certificates or ECCs, area clearance at mga requirements ng PRA. 4783 05:28:00,300 --> 05:28:11,620 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Gayunman, ang kanilang pagpapatuloy ay mananatiling subject sa continuing monitoring at sa risulta ng cumulative impact assessment ng DNR. 4784 05:28:12,740 --> 05:28:17,620 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And mahalaga pong banggitin na sa Pasay 360, binago mismo ang configuration ng 4785 05:28:17,860 --> 05:28:37,560 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: reclamation upang magkaroon ng mas malawak na water channel sa pagitan ng mainland at reclaim island. Ang unang redesign po ay naglaan ng 300-meter channel at pagkatapos ay pinalawak 4786 05:28:37,980 --> 05:28:47,720 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: patungo humigit-kumulang 476 meters bilang bahagi ng mga hakbang upang tugunan ang hydrodynamic at flooding 4787 05:28:47,860 --> 05:29:00,660 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: concerns. Sa katunayan po, may bahagi ng dating reclaim na kinakailangang alisin o i-rehandle upang makagawa ng mas malawak na channel. 4788 05:29:01,240 --> 05:29:09,040 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ito nga po ay yung sa area sa tapat ng dating Sofitel Hotel. Your Honor. 4789 05:29:10,420 --> 05:29:15,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker. Nabanggit nga ako na kung sa papel naman pagdating sa mga requirements, 4790 05:29:15,840 --> 05:29:24,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na punan ito, na isumiti ito, na aprobahan. Ngunit ang nakita rin po natin sa deliberasyon dito sa plenaryo, halimbawa, 4791 05:29:24,520 --> 05:29:33,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at dun sa mga naging budget briefings sa lahat po ng mga issues na may kinalaman sa Manila Bay Clean Up, sa Manila Bay Reclamation, 4792 05:29:33,840 --> 05:29:44,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa panawagan natin ng Manila Bay Rehabilitation, ay wala pong particular na programa na sapat para matugunan yung impact 4793 05:29:44,500 --> 05:29:45,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga mangingisipan. 4794 05:29:45,840 --> 05:29:58,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa lahat po ng mga nakasalalay, ang kanilang kabuhayan, hindi lang po sa particular area na ito, pero dun sa buong Manila Bay mismo, marami na pong mga pag-aaral ang tungkol sa 4795 05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:26,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Matindi na epekto nito sa ating mga fisherfolk, asang-ayon po sa pamalakaya na wala na po ang kanilang over 80% ng kanilang daily income dahil daw po sa mga reclamation projects na nasira na ang mga major fishing grounds, ang fish habitats, kabilang na ang mangroves, coral areas at seagrasses. 4796 05:30:26,960 --> 05:30:51,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron din pong statement ang Oceana na grupo tungkol sa matagal ng nakakabahala ng mga reclamation projects na nakakaabala sa natural na daloy ng tubig dahil hinaharangan ng mga ito ang daluya ng tubig na dapat sana ay umaagos patungo sa dagat. 4797 05:30:52,200 --> 05:30:56,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya naman dahil dyan, Madam Speaker, hamon po ito sa ating kapulungan. 4798 05:30:56,320 --> 05:31:14,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung ganitong may mga issue na may kinalaman sa kalagayan ng ating mga magsasaka, may ganitong mga concerns na pinapahatid ang ating civil society, nararapat lamang nadingginan natin yung iba't ibang panukalang resolusyon dito sa House of Representatives. 4799 05:31:15,340 --> 05:31:23,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Isa na dyan ang resolusyon para maimbestigahan ang mga reclamation projects na ito. 4800 05:31:23,580 --> 05:31:25,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron din panukalang batas. 4801 05:31:25,220 --> 05:31:37,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang House Bill No. 6270 na nag-aasam, nangangarap, nananawagan na maideklara na ang Manila Bay bilang reclamation free zone. 4802 05:31:38,160 --> 05:31:49,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Layunin din po nito na matiyak na magiging mahigpit yung ating mga pamantayan at mapreserba din ang ating mga yamang dagat sa buong bansa. 4803 05:31:49,640 --> 05:31:52,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yun lamang sa ngayon, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished guests. 4804 05:31:52,680 --> 05:31:54,940 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Maraming salamat po, Your Honor. 4805 05:31:55,220 --> 05:31:56,280 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4806 05:31:58,180 --> 05:32:03,920 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Edgar Erice to interpellate the sponsor. 4807 05:32:04,700 --> 05:32:08,140 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Edgar Erice from Caloocan is hereby recognized. 4808 05:32:08,720 --> 05:32:15,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you, our Majority Leader and our distinguished sponsor. 4809 05:32:15,100 --> 05:32:24,040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Mayroon lang po akong maikling-maikling mga katanungan. Una po, nag-issue na po ba ng may na-issuehan na po ba ang PRA? 4810 05:32:25,220 --> 05:32:33,140 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Anumang permit, approval, clearance or authority for reclamation activities in Laguna de Bay? 4811 05:32:34,600 --> 05:32:37,900 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: If so, which projects and what is the current status of each project? 4812 05:32:38,700 --> 05:32:40,020 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, wala po. 4813 05:32:40,820 --> 05:32:41,960 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Zero po. Wala po. 4814 05:32:42,220 --> 05:32:42,820 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes po. 4815 05:32:44,380 --> 05:32:51,480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Is PRA issued any permit, approval, clearance or other authority for reclamation activities in the Pasig River? 4816 05:32:53,640 --> 05:32:55,160 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, wala din po. 4817 05:32:55,220 --> 05:32:56,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Wala rin po. 4818 05:32:56,560 --> 05:32:57,080 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po. 4819 05:32:57,520 --> 05:33:12,900 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And lastly, dito po sa Manila Bay, marami po mga reclamation projects. Meron na po bang environmental impact assessment na pinagsama-sama para po dito sa mga proyekto? 4820 05:33:15,880 --> 05:33:18,340 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po, meron po, Your Honor. 4821 05:33:18,340 --> 05:33:28,600 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Can we just, kung pwede po, mabigyan lang kami ng kopya. Hindi naman po, nagmamadali, anytime na convenience. 4822 05:33:28,600 --> 05:33:33,240 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po, makakaasa po kayo, bibigyan namin kayo ng kopya bago po kami umalis. 4823 05:33:34,040 --> 05:33:35,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Salamat po, yun lang po. 4824 05:33:35,640 --> 05:33:37,140 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Maraming salamat po, Your Honor. 4825 05:33:39,640 --> 05:33:40,480 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 4826 05:33:45,020 --> 05:33:48,320 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Robert Nazal. 4827 05:33:48,340 --> 05:33:50,520 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: From the BH Party-list to interpellate the sponsor. 4828 05:33:51,080 --> 05:33:54,520 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Robert Nazal is hereby recognized for his interpellation. 4829 05:34:01,420 --> 05:34:04,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 4830 05:34:05,720 --> 05:34:10,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues, to the PRA. 4831 05:34:10,560 --> 05:34:15,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: PRA reported 5 billion in net income in 2025. 4832 05:34:15,200 --> 05:34:19,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And a total assets of almost 210 billion. 4833 05:34:20,900 --> 05:34:24,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For all ongoing and approved reclamation projects, 4834 05:34:25,480 --> 05:34:30,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: magkano po ang total projected value that will accrue to government, 4835 05:34:31,520 --> 05:34:34,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: magkano ang projected actual cash revenues of PRA, 4836 05:34:35,620 --> 05:34:39,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and magkano ang expected remittances to the National Treasury. 4837 05:34:39,420 --> 05:34:44,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And more importantly, Madam Sponsor, 4838 05:34:45,200 --> 05:34:49,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: can PRA give us a project-by-project timeline, 4839 05:34:50,780 --> 05:34:53,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 2027, 2028, 2029, onward, 4840 05:34:53,220 --> 05:34:58,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: showing when each project is expected to generate revenues for PRA and government? 4841 05:35:13,900 --> 05:35:14,820 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, 4842 05:35:15,200 --> 05:35:18,580 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: for the past 5 years po, 4843 05:35:18,580 --> 05:35:23,820 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ang na-remit na po ng PRA na dividends ay 4844 05:35:23,820 --> 05:35:25,420 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: 6 4845 05:35:25,420 --> 05:35:36,580 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: 6 billion 349 4846 05:35:37,180 --> 05:35:43,300 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: 6 billion, 349, 4847 05:35:43,300 --> 05:35:46,100 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: 896.25 po. 4848 05:35:46,100 --> 05:35:54,680 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And sa taxes po, 3,569,376,346.72. 4849 05:35:54,680 --> 05:36:10,180 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So, ang total po na remittance na nanggaling sa PRA ay nagkakahalaga na po ng 9.9 billion, Your Honor. 4850 05:36:11,240 --> 05:36:14,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Magkano po yung actual cash revenues of PRA? 4851 05:36:14,000 --> 05:36:14,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay. 4852 05:36:15,180 --> 05:36:17,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And magkano yung projected? 4853 05:36:39,840 --> 05:36:44,900 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Ang projected income statement po natin for 2026 is, 4854 05:36:45,180 --> 05:36:45,740 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: 2 billion. 4855 05:36:47,120 --> 05:36:51,280 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And for 2027 po, 4856 05:36:51,940 --> 05:36:54,300 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: projected income statement is 4857 05:36:54,300 --> 05:36:58,900 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: 1.9 billion. 4858 05:37:00,860 --> 05:37:06,260 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And ang atin naman pong total operating expenses 4859 05:37:06,260 --> 05:37:11,000 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ay 1.9 billion sa 2026. 4860 05:37:11,000 --> 05:37:14,440 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Sa 2027 po, 1.8 billion. 4861 05:37:17,480 --> 05:37:18,020 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor? 4862 05:37:18,020 --> 05:37:23,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano po ang projects that will start generating income? 4863 05:37:23,640 --> 05:37:24,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano po ba yung, 4864 05:37:25,220 --> 05:37:26,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: saan po tayo, 4865 05:37:26,680 --> 05:37:28,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: what are we expecting in terms of revenues for 4866 05:37:28,920 --> 05:37:31,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 27, 28, and 29? 4867 05:37:31,960 --> 05:37:33,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron po bang mga matatapos na? 4868 05:37:36,100 --> 05:37:37,180 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, 4869 05:37:37,520 --> 05:37:42,980 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ang revenue po natin ay nanggagaling sa mga service income 4870 05:37:42,980 --> 05:37:43,180 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ng, 4871 05:37:43,180 --> 05:37:43,440 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ng, 4872 05:37:43,440 --> 05:37:45,060 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ng, 4873 05:37:45,180 --> 05:37:47,680 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: reclamation, such as 4874 05:37:47,680 --> 05:37:49,820 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: the regulatory 4875 05:37:49,820 --> 05:37:51,640 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: fee, supervision fee, 4876 05:37:51,880 --> 05:37:53,020 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: fines and penalties, 4877 05:37:53,720 --> 05:37:55,560 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: and extraction fees, Your Honor. 4878 05:37:56,740 --> 05:37:57,660 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: And sa business 4879 05:37:57,660 --> 05:37:58,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: income naman po, 4880 05:37:59,240 --> 05:38:01,840 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: recurring income, such as 4881 05:38:01,840 --> 05:38:03,740 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: lease of PRA properties, 4882 05:38:04,580 --> 05:38:05,640 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: share in the toll 4883 05:38:05,640 --> 05:38:07,440 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: revenue in the Manila 4884 05:38:07,440 --> 05:38:09,040 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Cavite Toll 4885 05:38:09,040 --> 05:38:11,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Expressway, and 4886 05:38:11,700 --> 05:38:13,660 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: sale of land, Your Honor. 4887 05:38:13,660 --> 05:38:15,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Your Honor. Madam 4888 05:38:15,500 --> 05:38:17,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sponsor, Madam Speaker, 4889 05:38:17,900 --> 05:38:19,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for projects that have been delayed po, 4890 05:38:19,860 --> 05:38:21,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: suspended, or 4891 05:38:21,760 --> 05:38:23,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: subjected to policy review, 4892 05:38:24,000 --> 05:38:25,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: kinukompute po ba ng PRA 4893 05:38:25,720 --> 05:38:27,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang foregone revenue? 4894 05:38:27,900 --> 05:38:29,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pag-delayed, 4895 05:38:29,680 --> 05:38:31,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: magkano po yung government revenue na 4896 05:38:31,700 --> 05:38:33,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nadidelay for every year 4897 05:38:33,660 --> 05:38:35,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na ang bawat proyekto po 4898 05:38:35,720 --> 05:38:36,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ay hindi 4899 05:38:36,460 --> 05:38:38,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: gumagalaw? 4900 05:38:43,660 --> 05:38:56,820 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, 4901 05:38:58,640 --> 05:38:59,540 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: wala pong 4902 05:38:59,540 --> 05:39:01,780 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: nawawalang 4903 05:39:01,780 --> 05:39:04,120 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: revenue sa PRA. 4904 05:39:05,240 --> 05:39:05,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Now what I'm 4905 05:39:05,900 --> 05:39:07,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: citing, Madam 4906 05:39:07,380 --> 05:39:09,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sponsor, to the 4907 05:39:09,940 --> 05:39:11,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: PRA. Halimbawa po, merong tayong 4908 05:39:11,980 --> 05:39:13,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: mga revenue, 4909 05:39:13,660 --> 05:39:15,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: reclamation projects. Tapos 4910 05:39:15,580 --> 05:39:17,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: by policy, or for whatever 4911 05:39:17,500 --> 05:39:19,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: reason, dahil nagbabago-bago po yung 4912 05:39:19,380 --> 05:39:20,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: policy ng gobyerno, 4913 05:39:21,500 --> 05:39:23,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na-suspend siya, or hindi na tuloy. 4914 05:39:24,860 --> 05:39:25,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kinukompute po ba 4915 05:39:25,820 --> 05:39:27,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: natin yung foregone revenue? 4916 05:39:28,380 --> 05:39:29,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Para alam po ng 4917 05:39:29,380 --> 05:39:31,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: gobyerno natin, na kung 4918 05:39:31,140 --> 05:39:33,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: hindi po tayo consistent, pagdating 4919 05:39:33,560 --> 05:39:35,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sa pulisiya, meron tayong mga 4920 05:39:35,560 --> 05:39:36,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: investors na pumapasok, 4921 05:39:37,520 --> 05:39:39,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: at dahil sa policy, may nagbago, 4922 05:39:41,140 --> 05:39:41,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: merong hindi 4923 05:39:41,840 --> 05:39:42,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na tuloy na project, 4924 05:39:43,660 --> 05:39:46,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nari-realize po ba 4925 05:39:46,300 --> 05:39:47,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng ating gobyerno na sa 4926 05:39:47,900 --> 05:39:50,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pabago-bagong policy, ay 4927 05:39:50,100 --> 05:39:52,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: meron pong foregone revenue? 4928 05:39:57,740 --> 05:39:58,840 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, 4929 05:39:59,020 --> 05:40:00,480 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ang nawawala lang po sa atin 4930 05:40:00,480 --> 05:40:00,960 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ay yung 4931 05:40:00,960 --> 05:40:04,540 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: 51% of land 4932 05:40:04,540 --> 05:40:06,260 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: share 4933 05:40:06,260 --> 05:40:09,540 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: sa gobyerno po. 4934 05:40:09,740 --> 05:40:10,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes. Let's say, 4935 05:40:11,080 --> 05:40:12,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: meron kang reclamation 4936 05:40:12,820 --> 05:40:13,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na, 4937 05:40:13,660 --> 05:40:15,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na-approve po ninyo, 4938 05:40:15,860 --> 05:40:16,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: let's say, 4939 05:40:17,040 --> 05:40:18,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 5 years ago or 6 years ago. 4940 05:40:19,460 --> 05:40:20,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ngayon, nung nag-uumpisa na siya, 4941 05:40:21,740 --> 05:40:23,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: meron pong dinagdag na 4942 05:40:23,120 --> 05:40:25,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pulisiya, halimbawa yung DNR 4943 05:40:25,040 --> 05:40:27,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or whatever, investyo ng Senado, 4944 05:40:27,800 --> 05:40:29,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: hindi na tuloy yung 4945 05:40:29,080 --> 05:40:31,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: proyekto. So, ang 4946 05:40:31,100 --> 05:40:33,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: foregone revenue po natin dyan, is not 4947 05:40:33,100 --> 05:40:34,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: just the sale of land, diba? 4948 05:40:35,120 --> 05:40:37,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Siyempre, may asset value appreciation 4949 05:40:37,320 --> 05:40:39,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yan, meron po yan na 4950 05:40:39,340 --> 05:40:40,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: taxes, 4951 05:40:41,220 --> 05:40:43,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yung mga developers na papasok, na bibili 4952 05:40:43,200 --> 05:40:45,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: doon, magtatayo ng development, 4953 05:40:45,960 --> 05:40:47,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: tapos lahat po yun 4954 05:40:47,220 --> 05:40:48,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nawala. Ang tinatanong ko po is, 4955 05:40:49,360 --> 05:40:51,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: are we computing the foregone revenue? 4956 05:40:51,460 --> 05:40:53,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi para ho, alam rin 4957 05:40:53,180 --> 05:40:55,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: natin na ito ang nasasayang 4958 05:40:55,200 --> 05:40:56,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pagka pabago-bago tayo. 4959 05:40:57,140 --> 05:40:59,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: One agency or one Senate 4960 05:40:59,200 --> 05:41:00,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: investigation can 4961 05:41:00,280 --> 05:41:03,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: affect yung mga 4962 05:41:03,320 --> 05:41:03,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: investments. 4963 05:41:06,600 --> 05:41:07,400 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, 4964 05:41:07,560 --> 05:41:09,000 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: actually po, malaki po 4965 05:41:09,000 --> 05:41:10,120 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ang nawawala sa 4966 05:41:10,120 --> 05:41:12,840 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: PRA, pero po, 4967 05:41:13,200 --> 05:41:15,180 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: hindi pa po namin na kukompute 4968 05:41:15,180 --> 05:41:16,800 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: kung magkano po. Pwede pong, 4969 05:41:17,180 --> 05:41:19,440 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: ibibigay na lang po namin sa inyo, kung sakali, 4970 05:41:19,600 --> 05:41:20,080 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor. 4971 05:41:21,360 --> 05:41:23,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Baka nga po, it's time na, 4972 05:41:23,400 --> 05:41:25,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: diba, we should be monitoring also those things 4973 05:41:25,460 --> 05:41:27,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: kasi, sayang po yan eh. 4974 05:41:28,880 --> 05:41:29,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sayang po yan, 4975 05:41:29,720 --> 05:41:31,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: we have the 4976 05:41:31,580 --> 05:41:32,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: opportunity. 4977 05:41:33,580 --> 05:41:35,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang PRA po, I'm sure you're doing 4978 05:41:35,680 --> 05:41:37,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: roadshows, we offer 4979 05:41:37,780 --> 05:41:39,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: these to investors, and then the 4980 05:41:39,620 --> 05:41:41,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: investor will come in, tapos 4981 05:41:41,540 --> 05:41:43,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sa, dahil ho sa pabago, 4982 05:41:43,200 --> 05:41:45,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: bagong pulisiya, hindi ba, 4983 05:41:45,860 --> 05:41:47,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: eh, hindi ba tutuloy, 4984 05:41:47,700 --> 05:41:48,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nag-invest na sila, 4985 05:41:49,780 --> 05:41:51,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: kasi meron ako mga 4986 05:41:51,080 --> 05:41:53,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nakakausap, galing Singapore, nag-invest, 4987 05:41:53,500 --> 05:41:54,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nagpasok ng mga 4988 05:41:54,380 --> 05:41:57,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: vessels, tapos, dahil 4989 05:41:57,220 --> 05:41:59,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sa, hindi ko alam, 4990 05:41:59,280 --> 05:42:01,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: dahil sa politika, or dahil sa problema 4991 05:42:01,420 --> 05:42:03,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng, halimbawa, 4992 05:42:03,220 --> 05:42:04,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: magkaaway dun sa isang lugar yung 4993 05:42:04,880 --> 05:42:06,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: congressman, tsaka yung 4994 05:42:06,960 --> 05:42:09,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: LGU, eh, 4995 05:42:09,300 --> 05:42:11,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nagkakaroon na ng problema, hindi natutuloy yung 4996 05:42:11,100 --> 05:42:13,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: project. So, ang nais ko lang, 4997 05:42:13,180 --> 05:42:15,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: po, eh, sana, meron tayong 4998 05:42:15,100 --> 05:42:17,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: definite number na napapakita 4999 05:42:17,400 --> 05:42:19,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na ito po ang nangyayari. 5000 05:42:19,480 --> 05:42:20,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: That's why the national government 5001 05:42:20,760 --> 05:42:23,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: should intervene. And maybe it's about 5002 05:42:23,320 --> 05:42:25,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: time that congress also makes 5003 05:42:25,180 --> 05:42:27,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or creates a law na dapat 5004 05:42:27,120 --> 05:42:29,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pag may national projects of 5005 05:42:29,480 --> 05:42:31,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: of, ah, significant importance, 5006 05:42:31,880 --> 05:42:33,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: dapat po, hindi na po natin, 5007 05:42:33,760 --> 05:42:34,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: hindi na po siya nagagalaw. 5008 05:42:35,580 --> 05:42:36,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi po pwedeng galawin ng, 5009 05:42:37,540 --> 05:42:39,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ah, hindi po pwedeng baguhin ng local 5010 05:42:39,080 --> 05:42:41,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: government. Ah, yan lang po ang 5011 05:42:41,120 --> 05:42:43,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sinasabi ko, para nakikita po natin kung ano'y, 5012 05:42:43,180 --> 05:42:43,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: kung ano'y nawawala. 5013 05:42:44,900 --> 05:42:47,080 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes, po, your honor na. Intindihan 5014 05:42:47,080 --> 05:42:48,820 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: po namin yung, ah, 5015 05:42:48,920 --> 05:42:49,720 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: pinapoint mo. 5016 05:42:54,520 --> 05:42:56,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, my next question, ah, 5017 05:42:56,740 --> 05:42:59,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, 5018 05:43:00,640 --> 05:43:01,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: currently, 5019 05:43:01,300 --> 05:43:03,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: does PRA proactively brief 5020 05:43:03,020 --> 05:43:05,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the relevant members and committees of both 5021 05:43:05,200 --> 05:43:07,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the House and Senate on major reclamation 5022 05:43:07,040 --> 05:43:09,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: projects? The investment 5023 05:43:09,300 --> 05:43:11,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: involved projected government 5024 05:43:11,160 --> 05:43:13,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: revenues, timeline safeguards, 5025 05:43:13,180 --> 05:43:15,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and government approvals already 5026 05:43:15,380 --> 05:43:17,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: obtained. Kaya ako po tinatanong yan, 5027 05:43:18,020 --> 05:43:19,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I want to be clear, I'm not 5028 05:43:19,540 --> 05:43:21,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: suggesting that congress should become 5029 05:43:21,260 --> 05:43:22,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: another approving body. 5030 05:43:23,620 --> 05:43:25,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ayaw natin dagdagan ng proseso 5031 05:43:25,220 --> 05:43:26,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or pahabain pa ang approvals. 5032 05:43:27,660 --> 05:43:29,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But congress makes the 5033 05:43:29,280 --> 05:43:31,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: laws. And eventually, here's 5034 05:43:31,320 --> 05:43:32,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: many of these policy issues. 5035 05:43:33,780 --> 05:43:34,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Wouldn't it be better 5036 05:43:34,840 --> 05:43:37,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for PRA to brief congress early 5037 05:43:37,400 --> 05:43:39,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: so legislators understand 5038 05:43:39,020 --> 05:43:41,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the project safeguards 5039 05:43:41,400 --> 05:43:42,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and economic implications 5040 05:43:43,180 --> 05:43:44,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: rather than explaining everything 5041 05:43:44,860 --> 05:43:46,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: only when a project is already underway 5042 05:43:46,800 --> 05:43:48,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: tapos biglahong magkakaroon ng 5043 05:43:48,940 --> 05:43:51,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Senate or Congressional investigation 5044 05:43:51,060 --> 05:43:53,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: para pigilan dahil hindi nila naiintindihan? 5045 05:43:54,460 --> 05:43:54,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, 5046 05:43:55,960 --> 05:43:56,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: can PRA 5047 05:43:56,620 --> 05:43:58,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: institutionalize 5048 05:43:58,420 --> 05:44:01,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: briefings to the relevant committees 5049 05:44:01,060 --> 05:44:02,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: of both houses, not for 5050 05:44:02,900 --> 05:44:05,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: approval, but for information, 5051 05:44:05,740 --> 05:44:07,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: transparency, and 5052 05:44:07,020 --> 05:44:09,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: early identification of 5053 05:44:09,080 --> 05:44:11,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: any policy or legislative 5054 05:44:11,120 --> 05:44:12,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: issue that Congress itself, 5055 05:44:13,180 --> 05:44:14,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: may need to address? 5056 05:44:15,740 --> 05:44:17,540 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po, Your Honor. 5057 05:44:17,760 --> 05:44:19,000 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Nakahanda po ang 5058 05:44:19,000 --> 05:44:20,640 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: aming ahensya na 5059 05:44:20,640 --> 05:44:22,420 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: kung magkakaroon ng 5060 05:44:22,420 --> 05:44:25,260 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: pag-uusap, ay handa po 5061 05:44:25,260 --> 05:44:26,980 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: kaming makipagtulungan, 5062 05:44:27,100 --> 05:44:27,540 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor. 5063 05:44:28,420 --> 05:44:30,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Napakababa po kasi ng FDIs natin ngayon, 5064 05:44:30,980 --> 05:44:32,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Foreign Direct Investment. 5065 05:44:32,880 --> 05:44:34,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, ang nais ko lang pong 5066 05:44:34,680 --> 05:44:37,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: i-harp on is 5067 05:44:37,180 --> 05:44:38,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: it is important 5068 05:44:38,140 --> 05:44:41,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for investors to have certainty 5069 05:44:41,260 --> 05:44:43,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and time. Aside, 5070 05:44:43,180 --> 05:44:44,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: from briefing Congress, 5071 05:44:45,140 --> 05:44:46,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: meron po bang ang PRA 5072 05:44:46,960 --> 05:44:48,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na clear target processing time 5073 05:44:48,740 --> 05:44:51,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: from submission of an application 5074 05:44:51,200 --> 05:44:52,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: up to final government action. 5075 05:44:54,160 --> 05:44:55,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Parang one-stop shop po. 5076 05:44:56,060 --> 05:44:57,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Para kung may investors tayo, 5077 05:44:59,020 --> 05:44:59,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: malaman nila 5078 05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:02,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Where exactly are the, ano po ba ang bottlenecks sa ngayon? 5079 05:45:03,740 --> 05:45:08,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What can government do to shorten them without weakening environmental and other safeguards? 5080 05:45:09,220 --> 05:45:12,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, kung baga parang nasa inyo na po yung one-stop shop, 5081 05:45:13,380 --> 05:45:18,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: kayo na rin po ang magpo-process, hindi na po paiba-iba ang polisiya. 5082 05:45:19,140 --> 05:45:25,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, kasi po, nauna po kasi nilang puntahan ang ahensya ng DNR. 5083 05:45:25,700 --> 05:45:29,700 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So, depende po sa DNR kung nakapag-comply po yung nag... 5084 05:45:30,620 --> 05:45:35,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, have we identified po right now, for example, kung meron po papasok sa inyo, 5085 05:45:35,980 --> 05:45:41,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: have we identified the bottlenecks? Kung saan po, ano pong departamento ang talagang nagkakaroon tayo ng problema? 5086 05:45:41,880 --> 05:45:47,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Para, ang nais ko lang naman po malaman is saan po makakatulong ang Kongreso sa inyo 5087 05:45:47,060 --> 05:45:54,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: in terms of policy action or law para po mapadali ang trabaho ng PRA. 5088 05:45:55,700 --> 05:46:16,920 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So, yung po ay nire-required po sa amin ng OP, Office of the President to streamline PRA permitting process, Your Honor. 5089 05:46:27,200 --> 05:46:32,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So yun lang po. So baka po, we can come up with a report kung saan po nakalagay yung... 5090 05:46:32,100 --> 05:46:34,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or ma-identify po natin kung saan ang pinaka-bottlenecks. 5091 05:46:35,120 --> 05:46:41,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Para, pagka meron po tayong investor, alam na po natin kung anong kailangan i-address. 5092 05:46:42,000 --> 05:46:44,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: At alam po ng Kongreso kung paano namin kayo matutulungan. 5093 05:46:45,160 --> 05:46:49,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano pong pwede natin gawin na batas para mapadali pa ang buhay ninyo 5094 05:46:49,920 --> 05:46:52,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: at mapadali ang buhay ng mga investor pag pumapasok sila dito. 5095 05:46:53,260 --> 05:46:55,200 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Yes po, Your Honor. Noted po. 5096 05:46:55,200 --> 05:47:03,440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair, PRA's almost P210 billion in assets and P5 billion net income in 2025. 5097 05:47:05,180 --> 05:47:09,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Considering that, what exactly is the national government supporting in PRA under the budget? 5098 05:47:10,120 --> 05:47:16,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And why should that expense be borne by taxpayers instead of PRA's internally generated revenues? 5099 05:47:24,420 --> 05:47:28,900 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Your Honor, ang PRA po ay self-liquidating. 5100 05:47:29,100 --> 05:47:36,300 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: So wala po kaming hawak na pera, funding for infrastructure. 5101 05:47:37,240 --> 05:47:43,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So wala po kayong kailangan na budgetary support from the government, the national government? 5102 05:47:45,300 --> 05:47:46,300 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Meron naman po. 5103 05:47:46,300 --> 05:47:55,240 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Pero except for this project po, Your Honor, wala po kaming pan para maituloy at matapos ang proyekto. 5104 05:47:56,600 --> 05:48:05,740 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Kasi kung makikita niyo po, napakalaki po at napakaganda ng proyektong sinasabit namin. 5105 05:48:06,820 --> 05:48:14,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So yun na lang po. I just wanted to manifest also that ang projects po ng PRA napakaganda. 5106 05:48:14,380 --> 05:48:23,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kung meron pong suporta na kailangan gawin ang gobyerno para upang mapadali ang pag-implement ng projects ng PRA, 5107 05:48:24,520 --> 05:48:30,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I fully support kung ano pong kailangan ng PRA for their projects. Maraming salamat po. 5108 05:48:31,020 --> 05:48:32,860 Rep. Josefina B. Tallado: Maraming salamat po, Your Honor. 5109 05:48:34,060 --> 05:48:35,020 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 5110 05:48:44,380 --> 05:48:45,380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 5111 05:48:48,820 --> 05:48:52,960 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: I move to be recognized. 5112 05:48:53,600 --> 05:48:54,840 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: What about Presley de Jesus? 5113 05:48:59,720 --> 05:49:02,420 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Presley de Jesus is hereby recognized. 5114 05:49:03,320 --> 05:49:04,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 5115 05:49:06,200 --> 05:49:12,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, there being no more members for the minority who wishes to interpolate, 5116 05:49:12,480 --> 05:49:13,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate... 5117 05:49:14,380 --> 05:49:21,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ...the period of sponsorship and debate for the budget of the Philippine Reclamation Authority. 5118 05:49:21,480 --> 05:49:23,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So move, Madam Speaker. 5119 05:49:23,520 --> 05:49:24,460 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say? 5120 05:49:26,640 --> 05:49:39,040 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellation on the proposed budget of the PRA. 5121 05:49:39,040 --> 05:49:44,040 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Madam Speaker, there is a joint motion to terminate the interpolations on the proposed budget of... 5122 05:49:44,380 --> 05:49:46,380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: ...the Philippine Reclamation Authority. 5123 05:49:46,380 --> 05:49:48,380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 5124 05:49:48,380 --> 05:49:50,380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. 5125 05:49:50,380 --> 05:49:56,520 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Interpellations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Reclamation Authority are hereby terminated. 5126 05:49:56,520 --> 05:49:58,380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 5127 05:49:58,380 --> 05:50:00,380 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes. 5128 05:50:00,380 --> 05:50:02,380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended. 5129 05:52:08,880 --> 05:52:11,480 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. Majority Leader. 5130 05:52:12,070 --> 05:52:19,600 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers, including attached agencies. 5131 05:52:19,600 --> 05:52:30,990 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a motion to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers and its attached agencies. Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader. 5132 05:52:30,990 --> 05:52:42,640 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Department of Migrant Workers? They are the following: Secretary Hans Leo J. Cacdac, 5133 05:52:42,650 --> 05:53:12,040 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: OWWA Administrator Patricia Yvonne Caunan, Undersecretary Bernard P. Olalia, Undersecretary Felicitas Q. Bay, Undersecretary Jainal T. Rasul Jr., Undersecretary Dominique Rubia-Tutay, Undersecretary Darlene R. Pajarito, and we would also like to acknowledge the regional directors, other officials and employees of DMW and its attached agency OWWA. Madam Speaker. 5134 05:53:12,040 --> 05:53:14,360 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: We acknowledge the presence of 5135 05:53:14,380 --> 05:53:21,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: the heads and officials from the Department of Migrant Workers. Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader. 5136 05:53:21,700 --> 05:53:33,780 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Vice Chair Irene G. Labadlabad from the second district of Zamboanga del Norte to sponsor the proposed budget of the DMW. 5137 05:53:33,780 --> 05:53:44,360 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. Representative Irene Labadlabad, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, is recognized to begin 5138 05:53:44,380 --> 05:53:54,600 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: her sponsorship speech on the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers. You may. 5139 05:53:54,600 --> 05:54:18,770 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, distinguished members of the House of Representatives, ladies and gentlemen, I rise to sponsor the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers, including its attached agency the Overseas Workers Welfare Administration or OWWA, for fiscal year 2027, 5140 05:54:18,940 --> 05:54:44,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: amounting to an expenditure of 10.68 billion. Since its establishment in 2022, the DMW has stayed true to its mandate to protect the rights, preserve the dignity, and promote the welfare of more than 2.2 million overseas Filipino workers across the globe. They serve as a tahanan for our OFWs, whose remittances reached 5141 05:54:44,380 --> 05:55:14,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: a record of US$35.63 billion in 2025, accounting for 8% of our national GDP. The DMW commitment to our OFWs manifests through its key programs and welfare initiatives, such as legal, medical, and other assistance through the Aksyon Fund, repatriation assistance through the OWWA Emergency Repatriation Fund, 5142 05:55:14,380 --> 05:55:44,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: specialized medical care through the OFW Hospital, national reintegration services, anti-illegal recruitment and anti-trafficking operations, and maritime research and skills services, among many others. Knowing the significant economic contributions of OFWs and this government's obligation to protect their rights and welfare along the global volatility and evolving geopolitical 5143 05:55:44,380 --> 05:56:14,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: realities they are facing, it is imperative for this Congress to equip the DMW with the capacity to deliver its call to provide agile and responsive service befitting the hard work and sacrifice of each OFW and their families. And so, Madam Speaker, we solicit your kind support for the swift approval of the budget of the DMW and attached agency for fiscal year 2027. 5144 05:56:14,380 --> 05:56:23,320 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: We are now ready to address any questions and hope for a meaningful exchange with our distinguished colleagues. Majority Leader. 5145 05:56:23,320 --> 05:56:29,060 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the honorable Presley De Jesus to interpellate the sponsor. 5146 05:56:29,060 --> 05:56:33,640 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The honorable Presley De Jesus is hereby recognized for his interpellation. 5147 05:56:33,640 --> 05:56:44,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker, and to our distinguished sponsor. I already committed that I will ask questions that 5148 05:56:44,380 --> 05:57:14,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: were not even raised at the committee level para ho mabilis tayo, because there are more departments waiting po. Alam natin may mga trabaho pa rin sila. So I am gonna go right at the [unclear]. Madam Speaker, on the OWWA emergency repatriation fund cut during active regional conflict. Madam Speaker, the OWWA emergency repatriation fund or ERF in the fiscal year 2027 NEP is reduced 5149 05:57:14,380 --> 05:57:44,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: from 1.2 billion to 900 million, a decrease of about 308 million. In fiscal year 2026, OWWA reportedly utilized 1.7 billion for repatriation amid the ongoing Middle East conflict, including 1.2 billion GAA allocation and a 700 million supplementary release, serving more than 139,000 distressed OFWs. 5150 05:57:44,380 --> 05:58:02,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Given that the regional conflict remains an active source of [unclear] risk, what assumptions and projected requirements justify reducing the ERF to 900 million for fiscal year 2027? 5151 05:58:15,900 --> 05:58:44,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, the department or OWWA itself have manifested and requested the need for additional funding because we understand the need for the ERF and alam po natin na hindi naman po natin made-determine agad kung kailan ba magagamit ito. So 5152 05:58:44,380 --> 05:59:02,060 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: kailangan ang emergency repatriation fund po, kailangan po ng additional sana na funding na PHP575 million. This has been submitted by the Overseas Workers Welfare Administration to the committee. 5153 05:59:02,060 --> 05:59:14,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Given the continuing geopolitical risks in the Middle East and other regions where 5154 05:59:14,380 --> 05:59:31,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: large numbers of Filipinos work, what is the established mechanism and expected timeline for OWWA and DMW to secure supplemental funding if the 900 million ERF is insufficient, and what contingency measures are available while additional funds are being processed? 5155 05:59:46,500 --> 05:59:47,160 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, 5156 05:59:47,320 --> 05:59:48,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Distinguished Colleague, 5157 05:59:48,920 --> 05:59:51,840 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: for 2026, 5158 05:59:52,540 --> 05:59:53,560 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: the OWA was 5159 05:59:53,560 --> 05:59:55,660 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: given supplemental funding 5160 05:59:55,660 --> 05:59:56,900 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: of 700 million, 5161 05:59:57,420 --> 05:59:58,900 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and for the Action Fund, 5162 05:59:59,020 --> 06:00:00,000 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: they were given an additional 5163 06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:02,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 3 billion pesos 5164 06:00:02,340 --> 06:00:04,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: to help and 5165 06:00:04,340 --> 06:00:06,400 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: make sure that all 5166 06:00:06,400 --> 06:00:08,700 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Filipinos who need to be repatriated 5167 06:00:08,700 --> 06:00:10,580 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: are well-funded and supported. 5168 06:00:11,780 --> 06:00:13,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, nagkasya naman po ba? 5169 06:00:15,100 --> 06:00:15,740 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes. 5170 06:00:15,740 --> 06:00:17,420 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes, distinguished colleague. 5171 06:00:17,700 --> 06:00:19,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor. 5172 06:00:20,760 --> 06:00:21,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, 5173 06:00:21,700 --> 06:00:23,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: reports raised during the House Budget 5174 06:00:23,840 --> 06:00:25,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: hearing indicate that 5175 06:00:25,800 --> 06:00:27,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: returning distressed OFWs 5176 06:00:27,740 --> 06:00:29,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: face 5177 06:00:29,160 --> 06:00:31,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 3 to 6 month delays 5178 06:00:31,580 --> 06:00:33,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in receiving financial 5179 06:00:33,500 --> 06:00:35,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: assistance under 5180 06:00:35,220 --> 06:00:37,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Department Order No. 02 5181 06:00:37,580 --> 06:00:39,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2025 with some 5182 06:00:39,580 --> 06:00:41,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: OFWs suffering from 5183 06:00:41,200 --> 06:00:42,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: chronic illnesses, 5184 06:00:42,760 --> 06:00:44,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: reportedly dying 5185 06:00:44,800 --> 06:00:46,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: while waiting for the 5186 06:00:46,880 --> 06:00:48,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: assistance they urgently needed. 5187 06:00:49,540 --> 06:00:50,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What caused these delays? 5188 06:00:50,940 --> 06:00:53,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Including within the Action Fund 5189 06:00:53,160 --> 06:00:54,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: information system 5190 06:00:54,700 --> 06:00:56,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and what target processing time 5191 06:00:56,840 --> 06:00:57,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: will 5192 06:00:57,560 --> 06:00:59,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: DMW commit to? 5193 06:01:02,420 --> 06:01:03,600 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, 5194 06:01:03,740 --> 06:01:04,620 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: distinguished colleague, 5195 06:01:05,960 --> 06:01:07,280 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: there were some delays 5196 06:01:07,280 --> 06:01:08,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: due to the tensions 5197 06:01:08,800 --> 06:01:11,580 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: in the Middle East 5198 06:01:11,580 --> 06:01:13,480 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: that needed to be addressed on the ground. 5199 06:01:13,920 --> 06:01:15,860 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: However, now that with the replenishment 5200 06:01:15,860 --> 06:01:17,520 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: the supplemental budget 5201 06:01:17,520 --> 06:01:18,020 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: given, 5202 06:01:19,000 --> 06:01:21,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: the disbursement 5203 06:01:21,360 --> 06:01:23,480 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: of these support is now ongoing. 5204 06:01:25,940 --> 06:01:26,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The 2025 5205 06:01:26,900 --> 06:01:29,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: COA Audit Report 5206 06:01:29,300 --> 06:01:31,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: flagged Action Fund deficiencies 5207 06:01:31,960 --> 06:01:33,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: including 5208 06:01:33,120 --> 06:01:34,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 163.2 million 5209 06:01:34,960 --> 06:01:36,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in missing receipts, 5210 06:01:37,900 --> 06:01:38,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: improperly filled 5211 06:01:38,940 --> 06:01:40,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: recommendation reports, 5212 06:01:41,000 --> 06:01:42,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and deficient supporting documents, 5213 06:01:43,380 --> 06:01:44,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: as well as grants to 5214 06:01:44,680 --> 06:01:47,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ineligible beneficiaries. 5215 06:01:48,440 --> 06:01:49,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And under 5216 06:01:49,000 --> 06:01:51,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: unstandardized 5217 06:01:51,220 --> 06:01:53,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: medical severity 5218 06:01:53,400 --> 06:01:54,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: classification, 5219 06:01:54,800 --> 06:01:56,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: what verification eligibility 5220 06:01:56,900 --> 06:01:58,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and medical assessment 5221 06:01:58,900 --> 06:02:01,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: controls 5222 06:02:01,000 --> 06:02:02,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: has the DMW 5223 06:02:02,600 --> 06:02:04,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: DMW instituted 5224 06:02:04,480 --> 06:02:06,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: across migrant workers 5225 06:02:06,900 --> 06:02:09,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: offices and regional offices 5226 06:02:09,080 --> 06:02:11,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and how will DMW monitor 5227 06:02:11,160 --> 06:02:12,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: compliance across 5228 06:02:12,920 --> 06:02:14,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: all disbursing units? 5229 06:02:17,820 --> 06:02:19,140 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, 5230 06:02:19,280 --> 06:02:20,120 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: distinguished colleague, 5231 06:02:21,460 --> 06:02:22,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: that is currently being 5232 06:02:22,880 --> 06:02:23,940 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: complied as we 5233 06:02:23,940 --> 06:02:25,120 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: are 5234 06:02:25,120 --> 06:02:27,820 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: as we speak right now 5235 06:02:27,820 --> 06:02:29,780 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and with the use of the action 5236 06:02:29,780 --> 06:02:31,640 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: information, action fund 5237 06:02:31,640 --> 06:02:33,620 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: information system, it's become 5238 06:02:33,620 --> 06:02:35,920 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: easier for disbursement, 5239 06:02:36,040 --> 06:02:37,840 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: the proper disbursement of financial 5240 06:02:37,840 --> 06:02:39,780 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: assistance to our overseas 5241 06:02:39,780 --> 06:02:40,740 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Filipino workers. 5242 06:02:42,260 --> 06:02:43,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, 5243 06:02:43,220 --> 06:02:45,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I will move to my next question. 5244 06:02:46,700 --> 06:02:47,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The structural building, 5245 06:02:48,740 --> 06:02:49,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: safety hazard, 5246 06:02:49,920 --> 06:02:51,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and zero ISSP capital 5247 06:02:51,700 --> 06:02:53,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: allocation. Madam Speaker, 5248 06:02:54,380 --> 06:02:55,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: DPW, 5249 06:02:55,120 --> 06:02:57,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: structural integrity assessment 5250 06:02:57,140 --> 06:02:59,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: reportedly found 5251 06:02:59,000 --> 06:03:01,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that the OWA central 5252 06:03:01,240 --> 06:03:03,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: office building meets 5253 06:03:03,280 --> 06:03:05,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: only 10% of the minimum 5254 06:03:05,560 --> 06:03:07,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: seismic compliance 5255 06:03:07,340 --> 06:03:09,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: standard. Given 5256 06:03:09,280 --> 06:03:11,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the potential life safety risk 5257 06:03:11,500 --> 06:03:13,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to OWA, personal 5258 06:03:13,580 --> 06:03:15,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and OFW clients, 5259 06:03:15,880 --> 06:03:17,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: why does the fiscal year 5260 06:03:17,360 --> 06:03:18,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2027 NEP 5261 06:03:18,820 --> 06:03:20,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: provide no, no, 5262 06:03:21,380 --> 06:03:23,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: no capital allocation for 5263 06:03:23,280 --> 06:03:25,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the structural retrofit 5264 06:03:25,060 --> 06:03:26,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or relocation of the 5265 06:03:26,960 --> 06:03:29,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: facility and where is this 5266 06:03:29,180 --> 06:03:30,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: requirement program 5267 06:03:30,400 --> 06:03:32,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: if at all? 5268 06:03:33,020 --> 06:03:34,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano nangyari dito? 5269 06:03:35,120 --> 06:03:37,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Alam nyo na po, Madam Speaker, 5270 06:03:37,120 --> 06:03:38,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ito mga OFW, ito yung mga 5271 06:03:38,840 --> 06:03:40,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: modern day hero natin. That's why 5272 06:03:40,920 --> 06:03:43,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I salute ang mga terminal 5273 06:03:43,000 --> 06:03:44,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: natin, the airport terminal, especially 5274 06:03:44,860 --> 06:03:47,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: terminal 3, na may dedicated 5275 06:03:47,160 --> 06:03:48,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: OFW lounge 5276 06:03:48,960 --> 06:03:50,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: natin doon. So, 5277 06:03:51,040 --> 06:03:51,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I salute to 5278 06:03:51,900 --> 06:03:54,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Ramon Ang, na napaganda niya. 5279 06:03:55,060 --> 06:03:56,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sana ganyan po lahat 5280 06:03:56,340 --> 06:03:57,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ng ating 5281 06:03:57,500 --> 06:04:00,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: mga terminal na we may welcome po natin. 5282 06:04:00,700 --> 06:04:02,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Remember, Madam Speaker, 5283 06:04:02,260 --> 06:04:04,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: they are remitting annually 5284 06:04:04,660 --> 06:04:06,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 25 billion. 5285 06:04:07,020 --> 06:04:08,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, ito lang po, small 5286 06:04:08,420 --> 06:04:10,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: consolation para sa kanila. But 5287 06:04:10,480 --> 06:04:12,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: this building alone, no? 5288 06:04:12,700 --> 06:04:13,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano nangyari dito? 5289 06:04:14,720 --> 06:04:16,820 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 5290 06:04:17,940 --> 06:04:18,580 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: we share 5291 06:04:18,580 --> 06:04:20,680 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: the same concern and that's 5292 06:04:20,680 --> 06:04:22,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: why OWA has manifested 5293 06:04:22,340 --> 06:04:24,540 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: the request for an additional 5294 06:04:24,540 --> 06:04:26,380 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: support for 5295 06:04:26,380 --> 06:04:28,580 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: general administration and support 5296 06:04:28,580 --> 06:04:30,040 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: funding of 5297 06:04:30,040 --> 06:04:32,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 353 million to address 5298 06:04:32,800 --> 06:04:33,600 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: the very 5299 06:04:33,600 --> 06:04:36,520 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: concerns that you have raised 5300 06:04:36,520 --> 06:04:38,160 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: distinguished colleague. 5301 06:04:38,880 --> 06:04:40,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, ano tingin nyo, Madam 5302 06:04:40,880 --> 06:04:42,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Speaker, kailan natin 5303 06:04:42,340 --> 06:04:44,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ma-re-retrofit to? 5304 06:04:45,180 --> 06:04:46,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi, ito, pasyalan 5305 06:04:46,840 --> 06:04:48,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ito ng ano? Puntahan talaga ito ng mga 5306 06:04:48,700 --> 06:04:50,040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: OFW workers natin? 5307 06:05:08,960 --> 06:05:10,700 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 5308 06:05:12,120 --> 06:05:12,660 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: currently, 5309 06:05:13,060 --> 06:05:14,220 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: or as for now, 5310 06:05:14,420 --> 06:05:16,300 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: we've done a temporary 5311 06:05:16,300 --> 06:05:18,600 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: transfer of our staff 5312 06:05:18,600 --> 06:05:21,080 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and we have, 5313 06:05:21,080 --> 06:05:22,780 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and DPWH have required 5314 06:05:22,780 --> 06:05:24,080 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: additional assistance. 5315 06:05:24,540 --> 06:05:26,380 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Assessment for the building. So, until 5316 06:05:26,380 --> 06:05:28,760 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: we are able to comply 5317 06:05:28,760 --> 06:05:30,700 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and comply 5318 06:05:30,700 --> 06:05:32,600 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: with the requirements, 5319 06:05:32,980 --> 06:05:33,960 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: we are, 5320 06:05:34,620 --> 06:05:36,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: we've gone through with a 5321 06:05:36,500 --> 06:05:38,380 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: temporary transfer of our staff. 5322 06:05:39,380 --> 06:05:40,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And, Madam Speaker, 5323 06:05:41,020 --> 06:05:42,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: this will be my last question, 5324 06:05:42,760 --> 06:05:44,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: no? Maray pa naman susunod dyan. 5325 06:05:45,340 --> 06:05:46,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, reintegration, 5326 06:05:46,680 --> 06:05:48,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: livelihood, grant adequacy 5327 06:05:48,860 --> 06:05:50,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and mandatory two-year impact 5328 06:05:50,500 --> 06:05:52,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: tracking. Question, Madam 5329 06:05:52,580 --> 06:05:54,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Speaker, DMW is seeking, 5330 06:05:54,540 --> 06:05:55,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to increase individual 5331 06:05:55,940 --> 06:05:58,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: livelihood assistance from 5332 06:05:58,440 --> 06:06:01,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 10,000 to 15,000 5333 06:06:01,240 --> 06:06:02,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to 20,000 5334 06:06:02,780 --> 06:06:04,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: per returning worker 5335 06:06:04,420 --> 06:06:06,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: with 51,000 5336 06:06:06,820 --> 06:06:07,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: beneficiaries 5337 06:06:07,640 --> 06:06:10,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: targeted. This will require 5338 06:06:10,600 --> 06:06:12,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: approximately 1.02 5339 06:06:12,940 --> 06:06:14,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: billion in livelihood 5340 06:06:14,580 --> 06:06:16,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: assistance with 5341 06:06:16,500 --> 06:06:18,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: only 309 5342 06:06:19,360 --> 06:06:20,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: million proposed under 5343 06:06:20,700 --> 06:06:21,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the 2027. 5344 06:06:21,940 --> 06:06:24,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Remember, 1.2 billion to 5345 06:06:24,020 --> 06:06:26,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 309 million lang 5346 06:06:26,900 --> 06:06:28,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for 2027 allocation. 5347 06:06:28,520 --> 06:06:30,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How many returning of 5348 06:06:30,480 --> 06:06:32,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: OFW can receive the 20,000 5349 06:06:32,440 --> 06:06:34,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: assistance at the proposed 5350 06:06:34,440 --> 06:06:36,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: funding level kung 5351 06:06:36,360 --> 06:06:37,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 309 million lang 5352 06:06:37,940 --> 06:06:40,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: proposed under 2027? 5353 06:06:41,540 --> 06:06:42,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, there's a big 5354 06:06:42,600 --> 06:06:44,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: disparity from 1 billion to 5355 06:06:44,480 --> 06:06:45,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 300 million. 5356 06:06:51,880 --> 06:06:54,000 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished College, 5357 06:06:54,020 --> 06:06:56,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: again, we do share the same 5358 06:06:56,360 --> 06:06:58,100 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: concern as you 5359 06:06:58,100 --> 06:07:00,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: concretely. And so, that's 5360 06:07:00,360 --> 06:07:02,420 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: why DMW have 5361 06:07:02,420 --> 06:07:04,280 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: requested as well an additional 5362 06:07:04,280 --> 06:07:06,260 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 300 million as well 5363 06:07:06,260 --> 06:07:06,520 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: to 5364 06:07:06,520 --> 06:07:10,540 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: or for the enhancement 5365 06:07:10,540 --> 06:07:12,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: of reintegration programs. 5366 06:07:13,060 --> 06:07:13,420 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Currently, 5367 06:07:14,060 --> 06:07:16,180 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 10,000 beneficiaries 5368 06:07:16,180 --> 06:07:18,420 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: lang po ang mabibigyan natin with the current 5369 06:07:18,420 --> 06:07:20,140 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: level. So, hopefully, we can reach 5370 06:07:20,140 --> 06:07:22,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 10,000 lang po. 5371 06:07:24,020 --> 06:07:26,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Supposed to be 51,000. 5372 06:07:26,100 --> 06:07:28,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, 5373 06:07:28,100 --> 06:07:30,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: this lies the problem again, no? 5374 06:07:30,100 --> 06:07:32,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The overseas workers 5375 06:07:32,100 --> 06:07:34,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: natin, ito yung mga tinatawag 5376 06:07:34,100 --> 06:07:36,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: natin bayani. Remember, 5377 06:07:36,100 --> 06:07:38,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: $25 billion 5378 06:07:38,100 --> 06:07:40,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: annually ang nire-remit 5379 06:07:40,100 --> 06:07:42,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nila sa atin. Ito lang, hindi 5380 06:07:42,100 --> 06:07:44,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: natin mabigyan ng 1 billion. There's only 5381 06:07:44,100 --> 06:07:46,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: what? $20 million lang. 5382 06:07:46,100 --> 06:07:48,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In short to, walang maliit 5383 06:07:48,100 --> 06:07:50,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: na kumpara mo sa mga 5384 06:07:50,100 --> 06:07:52,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nire-remit nila sa atin. Again, 5385 06:07:52,100 --> 06:07:54,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: no, nakaka- 5386 06:07:54,020 --> 06:07:56,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: awa ang ating mga 5387 06:07:56,140 --> 06:07:58,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: modern day hero kung hindi 5388 06:07:58,180 --> 06:07:59,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: natin mabigyan. Only 5389 06:07:59,900 --> 06:08:02,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 10,000 beneficiary out of 5390 06:08:02,140 --> 06:08:04,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 51,000. So, 5391 06:08:04,140 --> 06:08:06,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: kawawa sila. That's why I'm appealing 5392 06:08:06,000 --> 06:08:07,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to the Committee on Appropriation na 5393 06:08:07,980 --> 06:08:10,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: dagdagan natin ang budget 5394 06:08:10,300 --> 06:08:11,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ng 5395 06:08:11,320 --> 06:08:13,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ito, livelihood natin 5396 06:08:13,720 --> 06:08:16,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: para sa ating manggagawa. Again, 5397 06:08:16,780 --> 06:08:18,040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, Distinguished 5398 06:08:18,040 --> 06:08:20,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sponsor, on behalf 5399 06:08:20,180 --> 06:08:21,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of Pireca Parties, 5400 06:08:21,900 --> 06:08:23,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: kaisan nyo po kami na dapat, 5401 06:08:24,020 --> 06:08:25,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nagdagan ang pondo 5402 06:08:25,720 --> 06:08:27,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ng DMW. Maraming salamat po, 5403 06:08:28,000 --> 06:08:28,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker. 5404 06:08:31,460 --> 06:08:32,440 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 5405 06:08:33,660 --> 06:08:34,320 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, 5406 06:08:34,480 --> 06:08:36,180 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: I move to recognize the Honorable Robert 5407 06:08:36,180 --> 06:08:37,740 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Nazal to interpolate the sponsor. 5408 06:08:38,540 --> 06:08:40,080 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Honorable Robert Nazal is hereby 5409 06:08:40,080 --> 06:08:40,640 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: recognized. 5410 06:08:42,220 --> 06:08:42,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you. 5411 06:08:51,340 --> 06:08:53,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Good afternoon, Madam Speaker. 5412 06:08:54,020 --> 06:08:56,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Good afternoon to the 5413 06:08:56,120 --> 06:08:57,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: DMW and OA. 5414 06:09:01,040 --> 06:09:02,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, 5415 06:09:02,700 --> 06:09:04,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I already raised the emergency 5416 06:09:04,420 --> 06:09:06,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: repatriation fund tulad po 5417 06:09:06,260 --> 06:09:07,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nang nirais ng aking 5418 06:09:07,320 --> 06:09:10,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nakatapos lang na napakapoging 5419 06:09:10,060 --> 06:09:10,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: colleague. 5420 06:09:11,520 --> 06:09:13,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: During the pre-plenary 5421 06:09:13,600 --> 06:09:15,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: deliberations. So, I will 5422 06:09:15,980 --> 06:09:17,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: no longer repeat my questions. 5423 06:09:18,120 --> 06:09:19,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I only reiterate 5424 06:09:19,120 --> 06:09:22,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: that the ERF 5425 06:09:22,120 --> 06:09:23,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: must be increased and protected. 5426 06:09:24,020 --> 06:09:26,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, 5427 06:09:26,160 --> 06:09:28,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the conflict has not ended and government 5428 06:09:28,060 --> 06:09:29,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: must always have sufficient funds 5429 06:09:29,840 --> 06:09:32,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ready because 5430 06:09:32,140 --> 06:09:33,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: we cannot predict when another 5431 06:09:33,800 --> 06:09:35,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: evacuation or mass repatriation 5432 06:09:35,880 --> 06:09:37,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: will become 5433 06:09:37,880 --> 06:09:38,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: necessary. 5434 06:09:39,900 --> 06:09:41,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, even 5435 06:09:41,880 --> 06:09:43,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: when there is no major crisis, 5436 06:09:44,720 --> 06:09:46,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the ERF is still used 5437 06:09:46,140 --> 06:09:47,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for regular repatriation, 5438 06:09:49,760 --> 06:09:50,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: airfare, 5439 06:09:51,520 --> 06:09:52,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and onward 5440 06:09:52,100 --> 06:09:53,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: domestic transportation, medical 5441 06:09:53,980 --> 06:09:55,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and psychosocial assistance, 5442 06:09:56,420 --> 06:09:58,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and other services for distressed 5443 06:09:58,240 --> 06:09:59,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: OFWs. 5444 06:10:00,460 --> 06:10:02,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: A contingency fund 5445 06:10:02,100 --> 06:10:04,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: should not be reduced simply 5446 06:10:04,040 --> 06:10:06,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: because the worst emergency 5447 06:10:06,080 --> 06:10:08,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: did not occur during a particular 5448 06:10:08,000 --> 06:10:10,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: year. We should not 5449 06:10:10,020 --> 06:10:12,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: wait for a crisis before looking for money. 5450 06:10:14,900 --> 06:10:16,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, I will go 5451 06:10:16,020 --> 06:10:17,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: to my first question, 5452 06:10:18,060 --> 06:10:18,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker. 5453 06:10:19,960 --> 06:10:20,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, 5454 06:10:22,200 --> 06:10:23,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: distinguished colleague, through you, 5455 06:10:23,980 --> 06:10:24,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: may I ask 5456 06:10:24,700 --> 06:10:28,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: our distinguished 5457 06:10:28,300 --> 06:10:29,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: colleague to confirm with 5458 06:10:29,980 --> 06:10:31,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Administrator Kaunan, 5459 06:10:32,100 --> 06:10:33,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: after an 8.5 5460 06:10:33,640 --> 06:10:36,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: billion proposal to NEPGAP, 5461 06:10:37,540 --> 06:10:38,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: is OWAS 5462 06:10:38,080 --> 06:10:39,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: revised 2 billion package 5463 06:10:39,720 --> 06:10:41,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: already the absolute minimum for 5464 06:10:41,920 --> 06:10:42,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: urgent and 5465 06:10:42,720 --> 06:10:45,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: implementation-ready requirements? 5466 06:10:52,100 --> 06:10:52,900 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes, 5467 06:10:53,320 --> 06:10:53,580 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: yes, 5468 06:10:53,620 --> 06:10:53,720 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Mr. 5469 06:10:53,720 --> 06:10:54,560 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Distinguished Colleague. 5470 06:10:56,560 --> 06:10:57,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Absolute minimum? 5471 06:10:58,360 --> 06:10:58,740 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes. 5472 06:11:00,240 --> 06:11:00,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And, 5473 06:11:00,640 --> 06:11:02,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: mabibigay po ba ito? 5474 06:11:06,180 --> 06:11:07,300 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: That will be, 5475 06:11:07,600 --> 06:11:09,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: that's certainly the hope. 5476 06:11:10,540 --> 06:11:11,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sana ipaglaban natin, 5477 06:11:11,920 --> 06:11:12,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: distinguished colleague. 5478 06:11:12,920 --> 06:11:15,180 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Mga kaasa po kayo na ipaglaban natin yan. 5479 06:11:16,820 --> 06:11:17,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, 5480 06:11:17,840 --> 06:11:19,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: may I ask our distinguished 5481 06:11:19,920 --> 06:11:21,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: colleague to confirm 5482 06:11:21,960 --> 06:11:22,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: with the OWA how 5483 06:11:23,720 --> 06:11:25,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the 353.19 million 5484 06:11:25,720 --> 06:11:31,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: will be divided among 5485 06:11:31,920 --> 06:11:34,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the Information Systems 5486 06:11:34,340 --> 06:11:35,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Strategic Plan, 5487 06:11:36,540 --> 06:11:38,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: rentals for the Central Office 5488 06:11:38,420 --> 06:11:39,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and new overseas 5489 06:11:39,580 --> 06:11:40,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: welfare offices, 5490 06:11:42,120 --> 06:11:43,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: compensation adjustments for job 5491 06:11:43,860 --> 06:11:45,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: order personnel, and the Negros 5492 06:11:45,900 --> 06:11:47,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Island Regional Welfare Office. 5493 06:11:47,980 --> 06:11:48,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you. 5494 06:11:53,720 --> 06:11:59,020 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, 5495 06:11:59,140 --> 06:12:00,160 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: distinguished colleague, 5496 06:12:00,460 --> 06:12:03,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: the additional 353 million 5497 06:12:03,880 --> 06:12:04,600 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: requested, 5498 06:12:05,280 --> 06:12:06,780 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: kasama na po doon 5499 06:12:06,780 --> 06:12:08,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ng Information Systems 5500 06:12:08,460 --> 06:12:09,860 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Strategic Plan, 5501 06:12:10,320 --> 06:12:11,700 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang office rental po, 5502 06:12:11,920 --> 06:12:13,740 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and central office 5503 06:12:13,740 --> 06:12:15,740 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and new overseas 5504 06:12:15,740 --> 06:12:17,300 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: welfare offices, 5505 06:12:17,940 --> 06:12:18,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: kasama na po dyan 5506 06:12:18,980 --> 06:12:20,960 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang sana pangpaayos rin po 5507 06:12:20,960 --> 06:12:23,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ng building ng OWA. 5508 06:12:23,720 --> 06:12:33,920 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Ang compensation adjustment for job order personnel, kasama na rin po yan para po mas maayos na ang compensation natin para sa ating mga JO. 5509 06:12:34,520 --> 06:12:38,860 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: At ang establishment po ng Negros Island Regional Welfare Office. 5510 06:12:41,420 --> 06:12:49,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, may I further ask our distinguished colleague to confirm whether an audit observation memorandum was issued 5511 06:12:49,520 --> 06:12:54,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: concerning the proper compensation of OWASP job order personnel. 5512 06:12:55,680 --> 06:12:58,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: How much is required to comply with the AOM? 5513 06:12:59,080 --> 06:13:00,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What adjustment is due? 5514 06:13:01,140 --> 06:13:02,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And how many workers are covered? 5515 06:13:19,520 --> 06:13:34,160 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, currently there is an AOM and currently din po 2023 rates pa ang binibigay natin para sa ating mga JO 5516 06:13:34,160 --> 06:13:39,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and hopefully by 2027 updated na po ang mga rates na binibigay natin. 5517 06:13:39,560 --> 06:13:41,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What is needed po to update the rates? 5518 06:13:43,900 --> 06:13:49,100 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes, the additional funding po. That's what, that's really the clencher. 5519 06:13:49,520 --> 06:13:55,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So we cannot, we cannot update the rates until the additional funding is given? 5520 06:13:55,840 --> 06:13:56,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes, ma'am. 5521 06:13:59,280 --> 06:14:08,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, through you, may I ask our distinguished colleague, of the 433.8 million for Alagang OWA, 5522 06:14:09,180 --> 06:14:18,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: which of the seven seafarer welfare centers, five OFW airport lounges, five kasanayan at kabuhayan centers, 5523 06:14:18,820 --> 06:14:19,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and two OFWs? 5524 06:14:19,520 --> 06:14:24,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Of the five OFW global centers will actually open or become operational in 2027. 5525 06:14:25,180 --> 06:14:29,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What is the minimum amount and beneficiary target for each facility program? 5526 06:14:49,520 --> 06:14:55,060 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 5527 06:14:55,580 --> 06:14:59,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ngayon po, nakabukas na ang seafarers welfare. 5528 06:15:00,000 --> 06:15:01,440 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Center sa NCR. 5529 06:15:02,860 --> 06:15:04,100 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Susunod na po ang 5530 06:15:04,100 --> 06:15:06,040 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Iloilo and by next year, plano 5531 06:15:06,040 --> 06:15:07,720 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: po sana na mabukas na 5532 06:15:07,720 --> 06:15:09,840 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang Seafarers Welfare Center 5533 06:15:09,840 --> 06:15:11,300 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: sa Cagayan at Davao. 5534 06:15:11,920 --> 06:15:13,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: At susunod rin po sa 5535 06:15:13,980 --> 06:15:15,320 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Pangasinan at Cebu. 5536 06:15:17,680 --> 06:15:19,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano po ang minimum amount para 5537 06:15:19,980 --> 06:15:21,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: mabuksan lahat to? And ano po 5538 06:15:21,840 --> 06:15:22,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang beneficiary target 5539 06:15:22,920 --> 06:15:25,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for each facility program? 5540 06:15:30,000 --> 06:15:36,580 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Minimum po na kailangan ay 5541 06:15:36,580 --> 06:15:38,660 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: P83.8 million pesos. 5542 06:15:41,520 --> 06:15:44,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And what is the target beneficiary number? 5543 06:15:46,320 --> 06:15:48,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ilan pong beneficiaries ang makikinabang dito? 5544 06:15:52,580 --> 06:15:54,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Lahat pong deployment 5545 06:15:54,360 --> 06:15:55,940 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ng Seafarers. 5546 06:16:00,000 --> 06:16:02,320 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Around 500,000. 5547 06:16:02,620 --> 06:16:04,440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 500,000 OFWs. 5548 06:16:04,800 --> 06:16:06,040 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 500,000 a year. 5549 06:16:06,580 --> 06:16:07,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: A year? 5550 06:16:07,300 --> 06:16:07,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: A year. 5551 06:16:08,760 --> 06:16:10,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you. Thank you for that 5552 06:16:10,580 --> 06:16:11,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Sponsor. 5553 06:16:13,180 --> 06:16:14,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May I ask our distinguished 5554 06:16:14,500 --> 06:16:16,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: colleague, is the requested 5555 06:16:16,280 --> 06:16:17,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 130 million 5556 06:16:17,560 --> 06:16:20,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: already the minimum 5557 06:16:20,040 --> 06:16:21,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: indispensable amount 5558 06:16:21,340 --> 06:16:23,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for existing local hires, 5559 06:16:24,140 --> 06:16:25,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: legal retainers and medical 5560 06:16:25,560 --> 06:16:27,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and health retainers? 5561 06:16:28,160 --> 06:16:29,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Which overseas 5562 06:16:29,480 --> 06:16:31,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: posts will remain without legal 5563 06:16:31,520 --> 06:16:33,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or medical retainer coverage 5564 06:16:33,120 --> 06:16:35,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: if the full amount is not approved? 5565 06:16:44,760 --> 06:16:45,860 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, 5566 06:16:46,000 --> 06:16:46,820 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: distinguished colleague, 5567 06:16:47,580 --> 06:16:49,280 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: yes po, and we plan 5568 06:16:49,280 --> 06:16:50,840 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: to have an additional 5569 06:16:50,840 --> 06:16:52,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 10 medical 5570 06:16:52,800 --> 06:16:54,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: retainers po 5571 06:16:54,980 --> 06:16:57,320 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: in 10 different priority 5572 06:16:57,320 --> 06:16:59,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: posts in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 5573 06:16:59,480 --> 06:17:01,780 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Dubai, Kuwait, 5574 06:17:02,420 --> 06:17:03,740 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Jeddah, Doha, 5575 06:17:04,240 --> 06:17:05,180 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Kuala Lumpur, 5576 06:17:05,760 --> 06:17:07,700 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Alkabar, Hong Kong, 5577 06:17:07,880 --> 06:17:09,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Taipei, and Muscat, Oman. 5578 06:17:16,440 --> 06:17:17,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And currently, 5579 06:17:18,120 --> 06:17:19,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: hindi po natin makahire sila? 5580 06:17:23,360 --> 06:17:26,100 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: And currently po, meron na rin po tayong 5581 06:17:26,100 --> 06:17:29,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: medical retainers po. 5582 06:17:29,360 --> 06:17:30,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: In Dubai, and 5583 06:17:30,880 --> 06:17:33,200 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: meron na rin po ang agreements with Jordan 5584 06:17:33,200 --> 06:17:34,400 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and Qatar. 5585 06:17:34,820 --> 06:17:37,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can you explain, Madam Sponsor, 5586 06:17:37,780 --> 06:17:39,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ano po yung pinakatrabaho 5587 06:17:39,480 --> 06:17:41,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nung medical retainers 5588 06:17:41,580 --> 06:17:42,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: natin, and yung 5589 06:17:42,580 --> 06:17:45,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: medical and health retainers and yung 5590 06:17:45,140 --> 06:17:45,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: legal retainers? 5591 06:17:48,860 --> 06:17:50,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano po ang nagiging, 5592 06:17:51,700 --> 06:17:53,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ano po ang benepisyo nito 5593 06:17:53,160 --> 06:17:55,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na meron tayo nyan para sa ating 5594 06:17:55,040 --> 06:17:55,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: mga OFW? 5595 06:17:59,360 --> 06:18:04,220 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, 5596 06:18:04,420 --> 06:18:05,540 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Distinguished Colleague, 5597 06:18:06,120 --> 06:18:08,380 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang arrangement po, 5598 06:18:08,480 --> 06:18:09,960 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: bali, para po silang mga 5599 06:18:09,960 --> 06:18:11,660 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: legal retainers din po na 5600 06:18:11,660 --> 06:18:13,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: para mabigyan po kaagad 5601 06:18:13,460 --> 06:18:15,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ng medical services 5602 06:18:15,880 --> 06:18:18,640 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang ating mga nangangailangan na OFWs. 5603 06:18:19,180 --> 06:18:19,740 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yun po ang 5604 06:18:19,740 --> 06:18:22,060 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: purpose nila. 5605 06:18:24,020 --> 06:18:26,120 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Para po, we can immediately 5606 06:18:26,120 --> 06:18:27,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: refer ang mga 5607 06:18:27,800 --> 06:18:29,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: cases, medical cases, 5608 06:18:29,360 --> 06:18:30,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: the reason to do this. 5609 06:18:30,460 --> 06:18:32,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So without them, in certain 5610 06:18:32,840 --> 06:18:35,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: areas po na hindi, 5611 06:18:35,160 --> 06:18:36,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: halimbawa, hindi po natin mapupondohan yung 5612 06:18:36,980 --> 06:18:39,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pagdagdag, ano po ang nawawala 5613 06:18:39,360 --> 06:18:41,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sa ating mga OFW 5614 06:18:41,200 --> 06:18:41,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na servisyo? 5615 06:18:55,040 --> 06:18:57,240 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 5616 06:18:57,240 --> 06:18:59,240 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: unfortunately po, this will cause 5617 06:18:59,360 --> 06:19:01,720 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: delays po para sa pagbigay 5618 06:19:01,720 --> 06:19:03,560 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ng medical 5619 06:19:03,560 --> 06:19:05,840 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: service para po sa ating mga 5620 06:19:05,840 --> 06:19:07,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: OFWs dahil hindi po agad 5621 06:19:07,980 --> 06:19:10,060 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: mariresolbahan or hindi po tayo 5622 06:19:10,060 --> 06:19:11,680 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: makakapag-refer ng mga 5623 06:19:11,680 --> 06:19:13,100 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: medical cases po. 5624 06:19:13,180 --> 06:19:14,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Medical and legal? 5625 06:19:15,040 --> 06:19:17,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes. So, in terms of legal retainer, 5626 06:19:17,920 --> 06:19:19,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for example, meron po silang 5627 06:19:19,680 --> 06:19:22,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: naging kaso, nagkaroon ng wrongful 5628 06:19:22,100 --> 06:19:23,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na pag-aresto. 5629 06:19:24,860 --> 06:19:26,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pwede pong, kung wala po tayong 5630 06:19:26,640 --> 06:19:28,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: legal retainer, pwede pong 5631 06:19:28,920 --> 06:19:30,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: makulong sila, ma-detain 5632 06:19:30,880 --> 06:19:33,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or whatever, tapos hindi po tayo 5633 06:19:33,120 --> 06:19:35,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nakakapag-respondi kagad 5634 06:19:35,280 --> 06:19:36,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang ating gobyerno. 5635 06:19:37,100 --> 06:19:37,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tama po ba? 5636 06:19:38,840 --> 06:19:41,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes po, kasi kung may absence 5637 06:19:41,340 --> 06:19:42,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: po ng legal retainer, 5638 06:19:43,160 --> 06:19:44,660 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: hindi po kaagad, again, 5639 06:19:44,820 --> 06:19:47,200 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: matutulungan or pwede pong 5640 06:19:47,200 --> 06:19:49,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And given the 130 million 5641 06:19:49,360 --> 06:19:51,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: requested, 5642 06:19:52,780 --> 06:19:53,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ano po ba dapat 5643 06:19:53,560 --> 06:19:54,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang talagang amount 5644 06:19:54,860 --> 06:19:56,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: to fully cover 5645 06:19:56,400 --> 06:19:58,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yung ating lahat ng mga 5646 06:19:58,920 --> 06:20:01,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: OFWs para makover po 5647 06:20:01,960 --> 06:20:02,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: natin yung hiring 5648 06:20:02,960 --> 06:20:05,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng legal and 5649 06:20:05,960 --> 06:20:07,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: medical and health retainers? 5650 06:20:28,920 --> 06:20:44,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, I'd just like to clarify also, 5651 06:20:45,140 --> 06:20:46,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: this fund is supposed to cover 5652 06:20:46,580 --> 06:20:49,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the hiring for support 5653 06:20:49,480 --> 06:20:52,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for the support of the agency 5654 06:20:52,800 --> 06:20:55,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: to our OFWs in other countries. 5655 06:20:55,860 --> 06:20:56,240 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes. 5656 06:20:57,040 --> 06:20:58,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, ano po ang 5657 06:20:58,680 --> 06:20:58,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ngayon? 5658 06:20:58,760 --> 06:20:59,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano pong mga bansa 5659 06:20:59,900 --> 06:21:01,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang hindi natin mako-cover? 5660 06:21:28,760 --> 06:21:29,000 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes, ma'am. 5661 06:21:29,000 --> 06:21:33,540 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, 5662 06:21:33,720 --> 06:21:34,860 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: distinguished colleague, 5663 06:21:35,420 --> 06:21:37,080 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: gaya po nang nasabi kanina, 5664 06:21:37,220 --> 06:21:38,320 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: yung priority po 5665 06:21:38,320 --> 06:21:41,160 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ng mga medical retainers, 5666 06:21:41,900 --> 06:21:43,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: yung kanina po 5667 06:21:43,340 --> 06:21:44,480 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: nang nasabi. Currently, 5668 06:21:45,020 --> 06:21:46,560 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: DMW only has 5669 06:21:46,560 --> 06:21:48,900 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: medical retainers in Dubai, 5670 06:21:49,260 --> 06:21:50,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Jordan, and Qatar. 5671 06:21:50,900 --> 06:21:52,660 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: And same din po in the legal side, 5672 06:21:52,820 --> 06:21:54,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: syempre, gusto po natin madagdagan 5673 06:21:54,880 --> 06:21:57,020 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: rin po ang ating legal retainers 5674 06:21:57,020 --> 06:21:58,740 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: para po mas ma-report, 5675 06:21:58,760 --> 06:22:00,620 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: servisyon pa po ang ating mga 5676 06:22:00,620 --> 06:22:01,940 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: OFWs. 5677 06:22:02,660 --> 06:22:04,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, marami pong bansa na hindi 5678 06:22:04,860 --> 06:22:06,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: natin mako-cover. And what is the 5679 06:22:06,880 --> 06:22:08,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: needed amount to cover of everything? 5680 06:22:28,760 --> 06:22:48,940 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished 5681 06:22:48,940 --> 06:22:50,660 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Colleague, total po ng 5682 06:22:58,760 --> 06:23:01,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: We have currently po 5683 06:23:01,460 --> 06:23:02,780 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: a total of 5684 06:23:02,780 --> 06:23:05,140 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 32 legal retainers and 5685 06:23:05,140 --> 06:23:06,820 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 13 in-house lawyers. 5686 06:23:07,560 --> 06:23:09,180 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: At kailangan po po ng 5687 06:23:09,180 --> 06:23:11,260 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 11 pa po 5688 06:23:11,260 --> 06:23:13,620 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: para po sa 5689 06:23:13,620 --> 06:23:15,560 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 43 posts na kailangan pa 5690 06:23:15,560 --> 06:23:17,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: na legal retainers. 5691 06:23:18,140 --> 06:23:19,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, Madam Sponsor, 5692 06:23:19,700 --> 06:23:21,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, I would just like to emphasize 5693 06:23:21,520 --> 06:23:23,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the importance na makover po 5694 06:23:23,760 --> 06:23:25,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng DMW ang kanilang personnel 5695 06:23:25,500 --> 06:23:27,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: support for 5696 06:23:27,200 --> 06:23:29,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: all our OFWs 5697 06:23:29,700 --> 06:23:31,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: OFWs in different countries. 5698 06:23:33,140 --> 06:23:33,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: The 5699 06:23:33,860 --> 06:23:35,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: contribution of OFWs 5700 06:23:36,340 --> 06:23:37,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: to our GDP 5701 06:23:37,980 --> 06:23:39,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: is massive. 5702 06:23:39,660 --> 06:23:41,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Napakalaki po ng contribution nila. 5703 06:23:41,600 --> 06:23:44,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, dapat po para sa akin, hindi po dapat tinitipid 5704 06:23:44,040 --> 06:23:45,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang 5705 06:23:45,340 --> 06:23:47,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: kailangan na suporta para sa 5706 06:23:47,780 --> 06:23:48,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: mga OFWs. 5707 06:23:49,480 --> 06:23:51,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, my next question, Madam Speaker, 5708 06:23:52,820 --> 06:23:53,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: through our Distinguished Colleague, 5709 06:23:54,540 --> 06:23:55,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for the 447.99 5710 06:23:57,200 --> 06:23:58,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for Capital Outlay Request, 5711 06:23:59,740 --> 06:24:00,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: are the sites, plans, 5712 06:24:01,060 --> 06:24:03,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: specifications, procurement documents 5713 06:24:03,080 --> 06:24:04,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and implementation schedules 5714 06:24:04,480 --> 06:24:07,440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for the ROW 2 and 5 5715 06:24:07,440 --> 06:24:08,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: facilities, 5716 06:24:09,900 --> 06:24:11,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ICT modernization, 5717 06:24:11,360 --> 06:24:13,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: motor vehicles, OWA data center 5718 06:24:13,660 --> 06:24:15,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and software already complete? 5719 06:24:16,200 --> 06:24:17,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What is the minimum 5720 06:24:17,620 --> 06:24:18,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: non-deferable amount? 5721 06:24:19,780 --> 06:24:21,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And can these projects be 5722 06:24:21,000 --> 06:24:22,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: substantially implemented 5723 06:24:22,680 --> 06:24:25,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: within fiscal year 2027? 5724 06:24:27,200 --> 06:24:54,640 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 5725 06:24:54,640 --> 06:24:56,860 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: meron na po tayong plans. 5726 06:24:57,200 --> 06:24:59,000 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: At meron na rin po tayong lupa 5727 06:24:59,000 --> 06:25:00,780 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: specifically for Region 5. 5728 06:25:01,160 --> 06:25:02,700 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Currently, kailangan na lang din po 5729 06:25:02,700 --> 06:25:04,440 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: talaga ng funding. Yun po ang 5730 06:25:04,440 --> 06:25:06,060 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: hinihintay po, actually. 5731 06:25:07,220 --> 06:25:08,620 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: And approved plans na po ito. 5732 06:25:09,600 --> 06:25:10,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, ready for implementation? 5733 06:25:11,140 --> 06:25:12,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May implement na po ito? 5734 06:25:12,320 --> 06:25:15,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Within this year or before 2027? 5735 06:25:16,400 --> 06:25:17,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Or within 2027? 5736 06:25:18,220 --> 06:25:20,000 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes, for 2027 po, 5737 06:25:20,080 --> 06:25:21,640 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: as long as mapondohan po. 5738 06:25:23,600 --> 06:25:24,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pero wala pang pondo. 5739 06:25:24,980 --> 06:25:26,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, hindi may implement. 5740 06:25:27,200 --> 06:25:29,260 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Hindi pa po. 5741 06:25:30,120 --> 06:25:31,140 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Hindi pa nagsisimula. 5742 06:25:33,600 --> 06:25:35,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, Madam Sponsor, 5743 06:25:35,260 --> 06:25:36,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: alam mo na, marami ka trabaho. 5744 06:25:37,420 --> 06:25:39,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But I am here to assist you 5745 06:25:39,640 --> 06:25:41,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: para sa DMW, 5746 06:25:41,520 --> 06:25:42,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: para po sa ating mga 5747 06:25:42,580 --> 06:25:44,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: OFWs. 5748 06:25:45,520 --> 06:25:47,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, 5749 06:25:48,060 --> 06:25:49,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Congress created the 5750 06:25:49,180 --> 06:25:51,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Congressional Migrant Workers Scholarship 5751 06:25:51,400 --> 06:25:52,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Program in 1995. 5752 06:25:53,580 --> 06:25:55,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yet only 23.7 5753 06:25:55,620 --> 06:25:57,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: million remains 5754 06:25:57,200 --> 06:25:59,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: from its original 200 million seed fund. 5755 06:26:01,520 --> 06:26:03,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Through you, may I ask 5756 06:26:03,340 --> 06:26:04,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: our distinguished colleague 5757 06:26:04,560 --> 06:26:06,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: to confirm with OWA 5758 06:26:06,180 --> 06:26:08,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: that the requested 60 million 5759 06:26:08,380 --> 06:26:10,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: will support 1,000 new scholars 5760 06:26:10,360 --> 06:26:12,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: beginning academic year 5761 06:26:12,140 --> 06:26:13,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 2027 and 2028. 5762 06:26:15,160 --> 06:26:16,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Why should Congress allow 5763 06:26:16,460 --> 06:26:18,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: a program it created to run out of funds? 5764 06:26:19,200 --> 06:26:20,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And should there now be a regular 5765 06:26:20,640 --> 06:26:21,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: annual replenishment? 5766 06:26:27,200 --> 06:26:44,600 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 5767 06:26:45,060 --> 06:26:46,420 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang last po na, 5768 06:26:46,960 --> 06:26:48,920 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: last time na napondohan po 5769 06:26:48,920 --> 06:26:50,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang ating Congressional 5770 06:26:50,500 --> 06:26:52,640 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Migrant Workers Scholarship Program 5771 06:26:52,640 --> 06:26:54,420 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ay 31 years ago pa po. 5772 06:26:55,060 --> 06:26:56,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Kaya naman po, 5773 06:26:56,660 --> 06:26:56,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: if, 5774 06:26:57,200 --> 06:26:59,280 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: given the chance 5775 06:26:59,280 --> 06:27:00,960 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: to replenish this 5776 06:27:00,960 --> 06:27:02,940 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 60 million pesos po, 5777 06:27:02,960 --> 06:27:05,200 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: I would cater 1,000 new scholars 5778 06:27:05,200 --> 06:27:07,380 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: in the academic year 5779 06:27:07,380 --> 06:27:09,200 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: of 2027 to 2028. 5780 06:27:10,380 --> 06:27:11,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May our distinguished sponsor 5781 06:27:11,580 --> 06:27:13,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: explain 5782 06:27:13,880 --> 06:27:15,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: kung ano po ang 5783 06:27:15,280 --> 06:27:17,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: background nitong scholarship program nito? 5784 06:27:18,140 --> 06:27:19,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Why was this created? 5785 06:27:19,900 --> 06:27:21,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sino po ang tinutulungan nito? 5786 06:27:25,460 --> 06:27:26,640 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Tinutulungan po ito, 5787 06:27:26,740 --> 06:27:27,040 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ah, 5788 06:27:27,040 --> 06:27:28,060 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: tinutulungan po nito 5789 06:27:28,060 --> 06:27:29,060 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang mga anak po 5790 06:27:29,060 --> 06:27:30,260 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ng mga OFWs. 5791 06:27:30,600 --> 06:27:31,380 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yun po ang... 5792 06:27:31,380 --> 06:27:34,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mga anak ng OFWs na... 5793 06:27:34,260 --> 06:27:35,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: How do they qualify? 5794 06:27:57,520 --> 06:28:02,060 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Ang mga requirements po ay dapat nasa science and tech 5795 06:28:02,060 --> 06:28:03,140 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: course po sila, 5796 06:28:03,220 --> 06:28:04,240 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yun po ang inaaral nila. 5797 06:28:04,920 --> 06:28:05,000 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: At, 5798 06:28:05,200 --> 06:28:08,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: kailangan rin po silang makapasa ng 5799 06:28:08,500 --> 06:28:09,680 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: qualification test 5800 06:28:09,680 --> 06:28:11,540 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: done by the DOSD 5801 06:28:11,540 --> 06:28:13,200 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and after all the assessment 5802 06:28:13,200 --> 06:28:15,280 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: at kumpamasa po sila, 5803 06:28:15,320 --> 06:28:16,520 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: mabibigyan po sila ng 5804 06:28:16,520 --> 06:28:17,860 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 60,000 pesos 5805 06:28:17,860 --> 06:28:20,160 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: per year. 5806 06:28:20,440 --> 06:28:21,440 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 60,000 pesos 5807 06:28:21,440 --> 06:28:22,940 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: na scholarship po per year. 5808 06:28:23,100 --> 06:28:26,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, these are for children of OFWs 5809 06:28:26,740 --> 06:28:28,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: who are abroad or who are here? 5810 06:28:29,580 --> 06:28:30,320 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Who are here po, 5811 06:28:30,440 --> 06:28:32,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: nasa Pilipinas. 5812 06:28:32,360 --> 06:28:35,020 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: So, yun po ang mga OFW 5813 06:28:35,020 --> 06:28:37,520 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: or mga anak po ng mga OFW 5814 06:28:37,520 --> 06:28:39,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: na naiwan po dito sa Pilipinas. 5815 06:28:39,480 --> 06:28:40,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nawala na po magulang? 5816 06:28:40,600 --> 06:28:41,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Solo parent ba? 5817 06:28:42,920 --> 06:28:43,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Pwede rin po. 5818 06:28:44,700 --> 06:28:47,300 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Solo parent po or not. 5819 06:28:47,460 --> 06:28:49,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, this is a very good program 5820 06:28:49,000 --> 06:28:51,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: kasi umalis po yung magulang 5821 06:28:51,360 --> 06:28:52,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: tapos nagtatrabaho. 5822 06:28:53,360 --> 06:28:55,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, parang supporta po para sa mga anak nila. 5823 06:28:56,060 --> 06:28:56,540 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes po. 5824 06:28:58,240 --> 06:29:00,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And yet, hindi po natin ito napopondohan. 5825 06:29:00,420 --> 06:29:03,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And now, the DMW and the OWA 5826 06:29:03,540 --> 06:29:04,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: is reviving this program. 5827 06:29:05,380 --> 06:29:05,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tama po ba? 5828 06:29:06,180 --> 06:29:06,660 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes po. 5829 06:29:07,500 --> 06:29:09,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, Madam Sponsor, meron ka trabaho. 5830 06:29:10,300 --> 06:29:11,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: We understand. 5831 06:29:11,660 --> 06:29:13,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: We have to support this program. 5832 06:29:13,260 --> 06:29:14,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: This is a very good program. 5833 06:29:14,760 --> 06:29:16,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And this should be funded annually. 5834 06:29:17,240 --> 06:29:20,840 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: We agree with our distinguished colleague 5835 06:29:20,840 --> 06:29:21,320 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: at PAHAM. 5836 06:29:21,360 --> 06:29:22,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: And salamat po sa supporta. 5837 06:29:23,140 --> 06:29:25,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, I also wish to help the DMW 5838 06:29:25,620 --> 06:29:27,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: establish the record needed 5839 06:29:27,060 --> 06:29:30,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for its separate priority requests. 5840 06:29:31,060 --> 06:29:33,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I will focus on the unmet need, 5841 06:29:33,480 --> 06:29:35,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: implementation readiness, and safeguards. 5842 06:29:36,100 --> 06:29:37,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, Madam Speaker, through you, 5843 06:29:38,500 --> 06:29:40,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: may I ask our distinguished colleague 5844 06:29:40,160 --> 06:29:42,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: to explain what specific funding gap 5845 06:29:42,760 --> 06:29:44,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the additional 1 billion for the Action Fund 5846 06:29:44,960 --> 06:29:45,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: will cover, 5847 06:29:46,280 --> 06:29:48,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: how many OFWs will be assisted 5848 06:29:48,280 --> 06:29:49,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: under each type of assistance, 5849 06:29:50,000 --> 06:29:51,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and what is the target for the action fund. 5850 06:29:51,360 --> 06:29:53,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And what is the target processing and release time? 5851 06:30:00,000 --> 06:30:15,840 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 5852 06:30:16,600 --> 06:30:20,200 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: the additional 1 billion pesos po for the Action Fund 5853 06:30:20,200 --> 06:30:24,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: would benefit about 20,000 OFWs at the minimum 5854 06:30:24,500 --> 06:30:29,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: from various services, legal, financial, or medical. 5855 06:30:30,000 --> 06:30:37,140 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: At ang target po ng disbursement ng mga assistance po 5856 06:30:37,140 --> 06:30:40,120 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ay 30 days, although depende rin po yan 5857 06:30:40,120 --> 06:30:41,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: sa availability ng funds. 5858 06:30:42,620 --> 06:30:48,040 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: But the department is committed to delivering 5859 06:30:48,040 --> 06:30:50,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: the disbursement within 30 days po. 5860 06:30:50,800 --> 06:30:52,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano-ano po ang klase ang assistance? 5861 06:30:53,800 --> 06:30:55,840 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Legal, financial, or medical po. 5862 06:30:56,460 --> 06:30:59,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And ang target processing time from application 5863 06:30:59,720 --> 06:31:00,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: is 30 days. 5864 06:31:00,780 --> 06:31:02,000 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 30 days po ang target. 5865 06:31:03,780 --> 06:31:06,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay, Madam Speaker, through you, 5866 06:31:07,180 --> 06:31:09,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: may I also ask our Distinguished Colleague 5867 06:31:09,360 --> 06:31:13,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: to state, ano po ba ang corrective measures 5868 06:31:13,560 --> 06:31:15,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: that have already been implemented, 5869 06:31:15,940 --> 06:31:17,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: not merely proposed, 5870 06:31:17,900 --> 06:31:20,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: to address COAS findings on doubtful claims, 5871 06:31:22,020 --> 06:31:24,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ineligible beneficiaries, incomplete documents, 5872 06:31:24,980 --> 06:31:28,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and the absence of uniform classifications for illnesses. 5873 06:31:29,720 --> 06:31:31,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Injuries and mental health cases. 5874 06:31:34,780 --> 06:31:37,000 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 5875 06:31:37,100 --> 06:31:41,320 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Action Fund Information System is a COA recommendation 5876 06:31:41,320 --> 06:31:43,080 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: which is now being implemented. 5877 06:31:44,000 --> 06:31:46,540 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: And magdadagdag rin po ng mga amendments 5878 06:31:46,540 --> 06:31:49,280 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: to the existing guidelines, 5879 06:31:49,920 --> 06:31:53,020 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: as well as in compliance with the COA recommendations. 5880 06:31:53,340 --> 06:31:57,180 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yun po ang ginagawa po ng BMW ngayon. 5881 06:31:57,180 --> 06:31:58,180 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Thank you. 5882 06:31:59,720 --> 06:32:00,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Do you already have a system in place? 5883 06:32:01,420 --> 06:32:02,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes, it's currently implemented. 5884 06:32:02,280 --> 06:32:02,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And this is what? 5885 06:32:03,580 --> 06:32:04,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: This is digital? 5886 06:32:05,380 --> 06:32:06,240 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Digitalized na po. 5887 06:32:07,240 --> 06:32:08,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Are we using AI? 5888 06:32:22,940 --> 06:32:26,080 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes, it's a digitalized system po. 5889 06:32:26,080 --> 06:32:29,640 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: And AI would be a good tool po. 5890 06:32:29,720 --> 06:32:34,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: To add safeguards and help with the verification po 5891 06:32:34,980 --> 06:32:36,480 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: of these double claims. 5892 06:32:36,580 --> 06:32:38,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So mayroon na po tayong clearance from COA? 5893 06:32:39,000 --> 06:32:41,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Or we are already addressing that? 5894 06:32:42,660 --> 06:32:44,440 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes, it's implemented na po. 5895 06:32:44,780 --> 06:32:45,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay. 5896 06:32:45,580 --> 06:32:47,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor. 5897 06:32:48,160 --> 06:32:51,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May I ask, the DMW also is requesting 5898 06:32:51,000 --> 06:32:54,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 60 million for OFW Servicio Ban, Caravan, 5899 06:32:54,880 --> 06:32:58,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 60 million for International Labor Affairs, 5900 06:32:58,220 --> 06:32:58,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: 180 million for... 5901 06:32:59,720 --> 06:33:03,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: G, General Administration and Support Services, 5902 06:33:03,380 --> 06:33:06,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and 700 million for Key Services. 5903 06:33:06,380 --> 06:33:08,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For each component, 5904 06:33:08,380 --> 06:33:11,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: what exact 2027 output will be delivered? 5905 06:33:11,380 --> 06:33:14,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: How many OFWs will benefit? 5906 06:33:14,380 --> 06:33:17,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And which items are already procurement ready 5907 06:33:17,380 --> 06:33:19,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or implementation ready? 5908 06:33:43,780 --> 06:33:47,240 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Lahat Distinguished colleague, Madam Speaker, 5909 06:33:47,240 --> 06:33:50,100 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: lahat po ay implementation ready na man na po. 5910 06:33:50,660 --> 06:33:53,160 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: At ang mga servisyo caravan, 5911 06:33:53,800 --> 06:33:55,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang target po at ang kaya, 5912 06:33:55,460 --> 06:33:57,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang capacity po na pwedeng ma... 5913 06:33:58,620 --> 06:33:59,560 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: or ang... 5914 06:33:59,720 --> 06:34:13,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Pwede pong mag-benefit dito ay up to 100,000 po na OFWs dahil 20 different government agencies rin po ang nagbibigay po ng servisyo. 5915 06:34:20,080 --> 06:34:22,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor. 5916 06:34:22,520 --> 06:34:37,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Sponsor, DMW's verification fees, fee revenues are already authorized under a special account. 5917 06:34:38,280 --> 06:34:46,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For fiscal year 2026, Congress has already provided the authority in the GAA. No new congressional action is needed for each release. 5918 06:34:47,080 --> 06:34:52,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What is required is for DMW to submit the proper budget request and for DBM to act on it. 5919 06:34:52,520 --> 06:35:06,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, Madam Speaker, may I ask our Distinguished Colleague, how much did DMW request from DBM for the verification fee fund for fiscal year 2026? 5920 06:35:07,140 --> 06:35:11,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: How much was actually released and how much remains pending or unreleased? 5921 06:35:22,520 --> 06:35:47,440 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, para po sa verification fee fund, 5922 06:35:47,440 --> 06:35:52,440 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: na bigyan po ang DMW ng P777 million. 5923 06:35:52,520 --> 06:36:00,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Para po sa P777 million, ang requested po sana nila ay P826 million. 5924 06:36:01,220 --> 06:36:15,120 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: At as far as the utilization po, 100% utilized na po ang verification fee fund and that's around P580 million po for P2026. 5925 06:36:15,940 --> 06:36:22,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kunti na lang pala po, Madam Sponsor, from the request to what was actually given. 5926 06:36:22,520 --> 06:36:26,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Was there any reason why they did not give what was actually requested? 5927 06:36:35,840 --> 06:36:44,260 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, unfortunately, meron pong mga ceiling din na set by DBM. 5928 06:36:45,300 --> 06:36:45,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ceiling? 5929 06:36:46,820 --> 06:36:51,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But if you are doing, actually, wala dapat ceiling kung 100% utilized. 5930 06:36:51,840 --> 06:36:56,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: You were able to utilize 100%, correct? 5931 06:36:59,260 --> 06:37:04,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And these are earmarked funds specifically intended for this use. 5932 06:37:04,540 --> 06:37:15,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So kung ito po ay na-utilize natin at 100%, there is no reason for DBM not to give you the requested amount. 5933 06:37:15,080 --> 06:37:19,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Actually, kung na-utilize po siya bago matapos yung fiscal year, 5934 06:37:19,760 --> 06:37:23,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pwede, ang alam ko, pwede po kayo mag-request ulit. 5935 06:37:24,040 --> 06:37:27,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And dapat ibigay po nila yun kasi yung earmarked funds are intended for you. 5936 06:37:29,300 --> 06:37:39,820 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes po. Kaya po, tumaas rin po ng P777 million po from P580 million po last year. 5937 06:37:40,080 --> 06:37:44,420 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: For 2027, P777 million naman po. 5938 06:37:44,420 --> 06:37:49,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But are you aware, Madam Sponsor, that the DMW, once na-utilize, 5939 06:37:49,760 --> 06:37:51,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: you may request again? 5940 06:37:58,220 --> 06:38:02,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kailan po nyo na-utilize at 100%? 5941 06:38:19,760 --> 06:38:26,760 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: As of July, or sorry, August 2026 po, utilized na po. 5942 06:38:27,460 --> 06:38:29,280 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 100% utilized na po. 5943 06:38:29,360 --> 06:38:34,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: And currently, yung ginagamit na lang po ay yung general fund, the P380 million. 5944 06:38:34,480 --> 06:38:36,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Magkano pa po ang remaining sa earmarked funds ninyo? 5945 06:38:38,720 --> 06:38:40,280 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 100% utilized na po. 5946 06:38:40,300 --> 06:38:44,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: No, no, no. I mean, on the fund itself. 5947 06:38:46,100 --> 06:38:48,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi yung nagamit nyo at saka yung binigay. 5948 06:38:48,220 --> 06:38:49,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yung account. 5949 06:38:49,760 --> 06:38:51,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nung earmarked funds yun. 5950 06:39:21,060 --> 06:39:26,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Parang as of 2025, tama po ba? Ang ending balance was 5.6 billion? 5951 06:39:38,440 --> 06:39:44,900 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of our distinguished colleague and our sponsor, please wrap up. 5952 06:39:44,900 --> 06:39:58,440 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, currently po ang balance sa Treasury ay 4.36 billion po para po sa verification fee. 5953 06:39:58,440 --> 06:40:04,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So yan po ang sinasabi natin, yung pera po under verification fees is sa inyo po yan. 5954 06:40:05,620 --> 06:40:13,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And if naubos nyo na by July, yung 100%, ang sabi po ng DBM, pwede po kayo mag-request ulit. 5955 06:40:14,900 --> 06:40:21,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So you still have 4.6 billion, pwede po kayo mag-request ulit para lang magamit para sa ating mga OFWs. 5956 06:40:21,860 --> 06:40:29,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So in closing, Madam Speaker, our questions are intended to establish the basis for supporting these requests, 5957 06:40:31,380 --> 06:40:35,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: not to deprive the DMW and OWA of the resources they need. 5958 06:40:37,740 --> 06:40:44,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, CPBRD's figures show that DMW and OWA substantially improved their obligation and disbursement 5959 06:40:44,900 --> 06:40:51,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: performance in 2025. The remaining audit and implementation issues are being addressed 5960 06:40:51,220 --> 06:40:56,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: through stronger controls and accountability. Madam Speaker, subject to the specific outputs, 5961 06:40:56,940 --> 06:41:02,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: implementation schedules, safeguards, and quarterly reporting commitments placed on record, 5962 06:41:02,960 --> 06:41:10,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I manifest my support for OWA's revised 2 billion request and DMW's separate 2 billion priority package. 5963 06:41:10,820 --> 06:41:13,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, these are not luxuries. 5964 06:41:14,900 --> 06:41:21,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: They are needed for emergency repatriation, welfare and legal assistance, lawyers and doctors reintegration, 5965 06:41:21,840 --> 06:41:29,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the OFW hospital, safer offices, frontline overseas operations, seafarer and airport facilities, 5966 06:41:29,980 --> 06:41:33,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: skills upgrading, and scholarships for OFW children. 5967 06:41:34,720 --> 06:41:41,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So Madam Speaker, I respectfully urge the favorable consideration of these priority requests 5968 06:41:41,020 --> 06:41:44,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: with the assurance that every peso must be translated. 5969 06:41:44,180 --> 06:41:47,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: into actual service for OFWs and their families. 5970 06:41:48,180 --> 06:41:48,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Maraming salamat po. 5971 06:41:51,300 --> 06:41:52,360 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 5972 06:41:53,440 --> 06:41:58,520 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Sarah Jane Elago to interpolate the sponsor. 5973 06:41:59,240 --> 06:42:05,760 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party List is hereby recognized for her interpolation. 5974 06:42:08,260 --> 06:42:10,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker. 5975 06:42:10,960 --> 06:42:14,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: I'd like to start with the introduction. 5976 06:42:14,780 --> 06:42:18,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Increase of minimum wages for Filipino domestic helpers. 5977 06:42:19,940 --> 06:42:28,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: In August 2025, Madam Speaker, the DMW issued Advisory No. 25, Series of 2025, 5978 06:42:29,300 --> 06:42:36,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: increasing the minimum wage for migrant domestic helpers from 400 U.S. dollars to 500 U.S. dollars. 5979 06:42:36,760 --> 06:42:43,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Aside from incorporating the new minimum wage into the employment contracts processed by the DMW, 5980 06:42:44,180 --> 06:42:51,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the advisory also directed migrant workers' offices to engage with host governments and foreign recruitment agencies 5981 06:42:51,940 --> 06:42:57,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to ensure that the new minimum wage is implemented in their respective countries. 5982 06:42:57,420 --> 06:43:05,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Aside from incorporating the increased minimum wage into the employment contracts processed by the DMW, 5983 06:43:06,520 --> 06:43:13,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may we know from the distinguished sponsor, how does the DMW ensure that migrant workers are actually paid, 5984 06:43:13,480 --> 06:43:19,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at least the minimum monthly wage mandated under Advisory No. 25? 5985 06:43:28,240 --> 06:43:30,600 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 5986 06:43:31,300 --> 06:43:42,760 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: lahat po ng mga kontrata ay rinireview at meron din po tayo mga labor attaches on ground para po i-address po itong mga concerns ito. 5987 06:43:43,480 --> 06:43:45,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat po. 5988 06:43:45,280 --> 06:43:53,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At kung meron po tayong active monitoring, listahan ng mga kaso at ang status nito, ay hihingin din po ng ating representasyon. 5989 06:43:53,520 --> 06:43:58,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, sa iba pong mahalaga din na concern, 5990 06:43:58,840 --> 06:44:02,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang pagdademand ng child support from an OFW parent. 5991 06:44:03,280 --> 06:44:12,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: The Philippines has been a party to the Convention on the International Recovery of Child Support and Other Forms of Family Maintenance. 5992 06:44:13,480 --> 06:44:22,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, while the central authority of the Philippines for this particular convention is the Department of Social Welfare and Development, 5993 06:44:22,740 --> 06:44:30,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may we know what the role of the DMW is in implementing this obligation? 5994 06:44:43,480 --> 06:44:52,060 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 5995 06:44:52,060 --> 06:44:58,060 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: every time po meron claims for child support para po sa ating mga OFWs. 5996 06:45:00,000 --> 06:45:20,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: CMW po, sinusummon po ang ating OFW at we direct them to our legal attachés or our labor attachés para po magampanan nila yung kailangan nilang ibigay na child support. 5997 06:45:20,340 --> 06:45:34,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, what particular item in the budget is used for this assistance for those demanding child or spousal support from an OFW parent? 5998 06:45:50,340 --> 06:46:03,960 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Distinguished Colleague, ito po ay nagagaling sa Labor Attachés Welfare Services Fund. Yun po nagagaling ang pondo. 5999 06:46:04,680 --> 06:46:12,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat po. Paano naman po yung mga lugar na wala pong Migrant Workers Office? What about those jurisdictions? 6000 06:46:12,720 --> 06:46:19,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: How do you coordinate with the Department of Foreign Affairs and other relevant agencies to help? 6001 06:46:19,660 --> 06:46:21,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: With this matter. 6002 06:46:23,420 --> 06:46:42,540 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, we work closely po with DFA at ang ating mga embassies sa mga lugar na wala po tayong mga MWOs with their assistance to nationals units. 6003 06:46:43,440 --> 06:46:49,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker. At nasilip din po natin sa DFA na mababa yung utilization. 6004 06:46:49,660 --> 06:46:51,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nang assistance to nationals. 6005 06:46:51,580 --> 06:46:59,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Samantalang sa amin din pong mga lumalapit sa ating office, marami din pong mga nangangailangan pa sana ng mga assistance. 6006 06:46:59,640 --> 06:47:09,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po sana po, bukod dun sa close coordination, yung pondo na nandyan na at nakalaan para sa ganitong tipo ng mga assistance ay magamit natin para makatulong. 6007 06:47:10,720 --> 06:47:19,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Now Madam Chair, under the Expanded Solo Parent Act, the spouse, family member, or guardian of the child of an OFW, 6008 06:47:19,660 --> 06:47:25,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: who falls under low or semi-skilled worker category, is considered a solo parent. 6009 06:47:26,060 --> 06:47:34,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: In supporting our migrant workers, does the DMW have programs that also assist solo parents? 6010 06:47:34,760 --> 06:47:38,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Paari po ba natin malaman kung ano yung mga espesipiko na programa na ito? 6011 06:47:41,820 --> 06:47:44,180 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 6012 06:47:46,820 --> 06:47:49,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: currently the department addresses these cases. 6013 06:47:49,660 --> 06:47:55,440 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Through a combination of family support, livelihood, employment, and referral services. 6014 06:47:56,400 --> 06:48:04,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: And under Kalinga, solo parents and primary caregivers may access psychosocial and family-oriented interventions. 6015 06:48:05,880 --> 06:48:14,040 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Under Kabuhayan, they may be matched with livelihood or employment pathways suited to their caregiving responsibilities. 6016 06:48:14,040 --> 06:48:17,480 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Where additional social services are needed, 6017 06:48:17,720 --> 06:48:19,240 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Kaagapay and the National Reintegration, 6018 06:48:19,660 --> 06:48:25,840 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: allow DMW to refer the solo parent to appropriate partner agencies. 6019 06:48:26,360 --> 06:48:35,940 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: So far, 78 beneficiaries po na bigyan sa 2025 at 326 beneficiaries po sa 2026. 6020 06:48:36,480 --> 06:48:37,480 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yan po ang mga programa. 6021 06:48:38,120 --> 06:48:44,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang nabanggit ng mga programa, Madam Speaker, malaki din po yung hiningi ng DMW, ng OWA para sa mga ito. 6022 06:48:44,320 --> 06:48:48,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit, hindi pa rin po sapat talaga dun sa laki ng pangangailangan, 6023 06:48:48,600 --> 06:48:49,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung lalaan na pondo. 6024 06:48:49,920 --> 06:48:55,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya, kung may pagkakataon na taasan yung pondo ng mga proyekto na ito, 6025 06:48:55,200 --> 06:48:57,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay susuportahan ng ating representasyon. 6026 06:48:57,840 --> 06:49:00,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po, nabanggit din po kanina ng mga nauna sa atin, 6027 06:49:01,200 --> 06:49:04,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung tungkol sa halaga ng ating mga reintegration programs. 6028 06:49:05,460 --> 06:49:07,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we know from the distinguished sponsor, 6029 06:49:08,320 --> 06:49:13,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: what the particular programs are of DMW and OWA, 6030 06:49:13,760 --> 06:49:17,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: specifically intended for older migrant workers. 6031 06:49:18,600 --> 06:49:27,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: We have programs that specifically address a retirement and other post-employment support. 6032 06:50:05,720 --> 06:50:08,120 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 6033 06:50:08,120 --> 06:50:17,180 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: for older returnees, DMW combines financial literacy, livelihood support, skills transition, mentoring, 6034 06:50:17,860 --> 06:50:18,220 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: employment, 6035 06:50:18,600 --> 06:50:20,960 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: facilitation, and social protection referrals, 6036 06:50:21,540 --> 06:50:24,100 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: depending on the worker's capacity and plans. 6037 06:50:25,720 --> 06:50:32,200 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: The programs under Kaalaman can help the OFW acquire or adapt skills, 6038 06:50:32,200 --> 06:50:37,220 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: while Kabuhayan offers livelihood and entrepreneurship pathways. 6039 06:50:38,340 --> 06:50:43,240 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: FAS-SBMT, or Financial Awareness and Small Business Mentoring Training, 6040 06:50:43,380 --> 06:50:48,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: is also relevant for older returnees who wish to manage 6041 06:50:48,340 --> 06:50:51,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: savings or transition into small enterprise. 6042 06:50:51,680 --> 06:50:56,700 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: And so far, it's served 4,100 beneficiaries in 2024. 6043 06:50:56,700 --> 06:51:02,440 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: In 2025, 11,138 beneficiaries. 6044 06:51:02,860 --> 06:51:10,040 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: And so far, from January to August of 2026, 7,309 beneficiaries po ito. 6045 06:51:10,980 --> 06:51:12,400 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: At sa OWA naman po, 6046 06:51:12,400 --> 06:51:12,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ito po. 6047 06:51:18,340 --> 06:51:21,680 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: At sa OWA naman po, 6048 06:51:21,680 --> 06:51:24,140 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang mga reintegration services rin naman nila, 6049 06:51:24,600 --> 06:51:38,060 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: nakapag-natulungan po ang 410,591 families in 2025. 6050 06:51:39,140 --> 06:51:41,280 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: OFWs and their families po. 6051 06:51:41,660 --> 06:51:44,660 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: So kasama po dyan ang Family Development Support Program, 6052 06:51:45,120 --> 06:51:47,600 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Capacity Building for LG Europe Peso, 6053 06:51:48,340 --> 06:51:52,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Enhanced EDT and Demo Farm Visitation, 6054 06:51:53,140 --> 06:51:54,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: iba-iba po ang mga programa. 6055 06:51:56,260 --> 06:52:00,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Now, Madam Speaker, kung meron po ang ating DMW at OWA 6056 06:52:00,500 --> 06:52:04,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng detalye batay sa edad, sa kapasidad, 6057 06:52:04,700 --> 06:52:05,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa profesyon, 6058 06:52:05,620 --> 06:52:10,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay mainam po ito para makatulong po sa ating mga tinatalakay ngayon 6059 06:52:10,060 --> 06:52:11,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga panukalang batas. 6060 06:52:12,020 --> 06:52:15,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yung isa dyan ay yung pagpapalakas ng mga reintegration program. 6061 06:52:15,860 --> 06:52:18,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero meron po dyan isang probesyon na, 6062 06:52:18,340 --> 06:52:22,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi pa naisama, na sa tingin ko po ay isa sa mga panawagan 6063 06:52:22,760 --> 06:52:25,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating mga bumalik na mga OFWs. 6064 06:52:26,260 --> 06:52:31,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we know, Madam Speaker, what the positions of DMW and OWA are 6065 06:52:31,060 --> 06:52:35,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on establishing a retirement fund for OFWs 6066 06:52:35,840 --> 06:52:38,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: who are no longer able to work 6067 06:52:38,120 --> 06:52:44,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: or have reached a certain age at which they can no longer perform their jobs? 6068 06:52:48,340 --> 06:53:01,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 6069 06:53:01,880 --> 06:53:10,180 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: currently po ang DMW nagpapartner po with SSS 6070 06:53:10,180 --> 06:53:14,540 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: para po makapag-establish ang mga pension funds 6071 06:53:14,540 --> 06:53:17,780 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: para po sa ating mga retiring OFWs. 6072 06:53:17,820 --> 06:53:18,320 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: And at the same time, 6073 06:53:18,340 --> 06:53:21,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: they are also helping develop legislation 6074 06:53:21,340 --> 06:53:28,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: para po may sa batas na ang ating retirement funds for our OFWs. 6075 06:53:30,040 --> 06:53:34,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ito ay sinusuportahan ng buong-buo ng DMW at OWA, Madam Speaker. 6076 06:53:35,460 --> 06:53:35,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes. 6077 06:53:36,780 --> 06:53:38,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, 6078 06:53:38,840 --> 06:53:40,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: napakahalaga rin po nito sa atin 6079 06:53:40,500 --> 06:53:42,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mabalitaan tayo tungkol sa implementation 6080 06:53:42,760 --> 06:53:47,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Magna Carta for seafarers. 6081 06:53:47,360 --> 06:53:47,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes. 6082 06:53:47,440 --> 06:53:51,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Has DMW started implementing the Magna Carta? 6083 06:53:51,640 --> 06:53:57,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: If yes, what has DMW changed in its policies and regulations 6084 06:53:57,340 --> 06:53:58,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: because of this Magna Carta? 6085 06:54:00,460 --> 06:54:04,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we also know what the challenges are 6086 06:54:04,640 --> 06:54:08,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: in terms of the implementation of this Magna Carta, 6087 06:54:08,200 --> 06:54:13,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: especially now that we're in the first year of its implementation? 6088 06:54:17,440 --> 06:54:21,380 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, 6089 06:54:21,580 --> 06:54:22,640 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Distinguished Colleague, 6090 06:54:25,140 --> 06:54:29,220 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: so far po ang DMW nag-issue po ng sea-based 6091 06:54:29,220 --> 06:54:32,960 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: or nag-update po ng pag-issue ng sea-based rules 6092 06:54:32,960 --> 06:54:35,400 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: at na-standardize yun po ang mga kontrata 6093 06:54:35,400 --> 06:54:38,420 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ng ating mga seafarers at the same time, 6094 06:54:38,460 --> 06:54:39,580 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang fisher folks po. 6095 06:54:40,480 --> 06:54:42,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nag-update, ibig sabihin po, 6096 06:54:42,840 --> 06:54:46,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ongoing yung ating shipping? 6097 06:54:46,140 --> 06:54:46,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yeah. 6098 06:54:47,440 --> 06:54:48,600 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Issued last June po. 6099 06:54:49,220 --> 06:54:51,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: It was issued June this year? 6100 06:54:51,660 --> 06:54:51,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes. 6101 06:54:52,200 --> 06:54:52,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Alright. 6102 06:54:52,580 --> 06:54:53,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: And has already been issued. 6103 06:54:54,860 --> 06:54:55,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Alright. 6104 06:54:55,680 --> 06:54:58,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Now, mangingin na lang po tayo ng ulat, 6105 06:54:58,740 --> 06:55:01,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pinakauling ulat dito ng DMW 6106 06:55:01,860 --> 06:55:05,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung kumusta na ang ating Magna Carta. 6107 06:55:05,620 --> 06:55:06,720 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: We will provide the report. 6108 06:55:07,220 --> 06:55:07,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes. 6109 06:55:09,160 --> 06:55:12,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nais ko lang din pong maibahagi sa ating kapulungan. 6110 06:55:13,080 --> 06:55:15,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Naging vocal din po ang aming representation 6111 06:55:15,460 --> 06:55:17,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula sa Gabriela Women's Party. 6112 06:55:17,440 --> 06:55:20,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Tungkol sa provision ng Magna Carta na ito, 6113 06:55:21,340 --> 06:55:24,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung saan po yung monetary reward 6114 06:55:24,240 --> 06:55:27,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of the seafarers are put in escrow 6115 06:55:27,480 --> 06:55:29,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pending the finality of judgment 6116 06:55:29,400 --> 06:55:31,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: which can take years. 6117 06:55:31,420 --> 06:55:33,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So, that particular provision, 6118 06:55:34,200 --> 06:55:35,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa tingin po natin, 6119 06:55:35,560 --> 06:55:38,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat ding ma-review ng kapulungan na ito. 6120 06:55:39,360 --> 06:55:43,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At makakatulong po yung inyong implementation so far 6121 06:55:43,520 --> 06:55:46,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para makita ba natin kung dapat po itong tanggalin, 6122 06:55:47,440 --> 06:55:51,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito sa batas na ito. 6123 06:55:52,640 --> 06:55:53,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, 6124 06:55:55,000 --> 06:55:58,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol po sa naiulat na blacklisting 6125 06:55:58,940 --> 06:56:00,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga seafarers 6126 06:56:00,900 --> 06:56:05,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kapag sila po ay nag-a-avail ng kanilang right to refuse sailing. 6127 06:56:05,640 --> 06:56:08,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nakarating po sa ating office na kapag sila daw po, 6128 06:56:08,900 --> 06:56:09,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dalawang bagay, no. 6129 06:56:11,280 --> 06:56:13,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Una, may mga pagkakataon daw po 6130 06:56:13,940 --> 06:56:17,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hindi nila ma-exercise itong kanilang karapatan, 6131 06:56:17,440 --> 06:56:18,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng kanilang right to refuse sailing. 6132 06:56:18,380 --> 06:56:21,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil pag majority daw po ng mga seafarer 6133 06:56:21,820 --> 06:56:23,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay bumoto na tumuloy pa rin, 6134 06:56:23,700 --> 06:56:25,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay tumutuloy pa rin sila 6135 06:56:25,000 --> 06:56:31,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hindi po nasasangalang yung kanilang karapatan na tumanggi. 6136 06:56:32,220 --> 06:56:34,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, yung pangalawa naman po, 6137 06:56:34,540 --> 06:56:35,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay kapag sila ay nag-a-avail, 6138 06:56:36,500 --> 06:56:38,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nag-exercise po ng kanilang right to refuse sailing, 6139 06:56:38,980 --> 06:56:41,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagbalik po nila dito sa Pilipinas at aalis na, 6140 06:56:42,100 --> 06:56:45,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay nalalaman po nila na sila ay blacklisted na. 6141 06:56:46,320 --> 06:56:47,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron pong, 6142 06:56:47,440 --> 06:56:51,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: statement ang DMW tungkol dito 6143 06:56:51,260 --> 06:56:53,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at wini-welcome naman po ng ating representation. 6144 06:56:54,680 --> 06:56:57,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: The DMW called for Filipino seafarers 6145 06:56:57,460 --> 06:57:00,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: who refuse to sail to high-risk areas 6146 06:57:00,400 --> 06:57:04,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: not to be discriminated against in future employment. 6147 06:57:05,220 --> 06:57:07,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: They must also receive proper compensation 6148 06:57:07,580 --> 06:57:10,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and free repatriation to the Philippines. 6149 06:57:11,540 --> 06:57:17,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we know po what the DMW has done so far. 6150 06:57:17,440 --> 06:57:22,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: To ensure that the Filipinos won't be discriminated against 6151 06:57:22,620 --> 06:57:26,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: when they exercise their right to refuse sailing. 6152 06:57:27,460 --> 06:57:29,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Especially po in high-risk areas now. 6153 06:57:29,700 --> 06:57:29,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Thank you. 6154 06:57:45,280 --> 06:57:46,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, 6155 06:57:46,360 --> 06:57:47,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Distinguished Colleague, 6156 06:57:47,980 --> 06:57:52,080 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: So for the manning agencies na meron pong mga violations, 6157 06:57:52,080 --> 06:57:57,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: DMW would subject them to an investigation 6158 06:57:57,360 --> 06:58:00,960 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and also subject them to violation fees. 6159 06:58:06,080 --> 06:58:06,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, 6160 06:58:06,580 --> 06:58:08,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pag meron ba silang violation, 6161 06:58:08,020 --> 06:58:09,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ano pong mangyayari? 6162 06:58:09,000 --> 06:58:10,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bawal na po silang pag-operate? 6163 06:58:10,880 --> 06:58:12,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Masasara po ba? 6164 06:58:12,260 --> 06:58:13,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Masususpend muna? 6165 06:58:16,360 --> 06:58:21,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, 6166 06:58:21,460 --> 06:58:23,260 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Distinguished Colleague, 6167 06:58:23,260 --> 06:58:26,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Pwede po masuspend ang manning agency 6168 06:58:26,500 --> 06:58:28,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: at kung paulit-ulit po 6169 06:58:28,500 --> 06:58:30,960 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: or patuloy pa rin po ang violation, 6170 06:58:30,960 --> 06:58:33,580 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: pwede pong makancel po ang kanilang lisensya. 6171 06:58:33,580 --> 06:58:35,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, 6172 06:58:35,060 --> 06:58:37,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ano po yung basis po natin 6173 06:58:37,360 --> 06:58:38,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ganitong tipo ng mga 6174 06:58:38,940 --> 06:58:41,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: prov, penalties, 6175 06:58:41,700 --> 06:58:45,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: standards at saka yung graduated penalties po 6176 06:58:45,920 --> 06:58:48,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nabanggit po ninyo. 6177 06:58:48,360 --> 06:58:49,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Saan po natin yan makikita? 6178 06:59:01,000 --> 06:59:02,120 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, 6179 06:59:02,340 --> 06:59:03,320 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: distinguished colleagues, 6180 06:59:04,580 --> 06:59:05,840 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ito po ay base sa 6181 06:59:05,840 --> 06:59:07,820 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: sea-based rules po na 6182 06:59:07,820 --> 06:59:09,560 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: in-issue natin noong 6183 06:59:09,560 --> 06:59:11,820 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: June 2026 lang po. 6184 06:59:12,340 --> 06:59:13,100 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: And so far, 6185 06:59:13,100 --> 06:59:16,420 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 1,300 po 6186 06:59:16,420 --> 06:59:17,100 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Filipino seafarers 6187 06:59:17,980 --> 06:59:20,080 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: refused to sail 6188 06:59:20,080 --> 06:59:20,720 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: or traverse. 6189 06:59:21,160 --> 06:59:22,520 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Ito po ang so far. 6190 06:59:24,920 --> 06:59:26,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat po. 6191 06:59:27,180 --> 06:59:28,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bukod po sa ganyang information, 6192 06:59:28,640 --> 06:59:30,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nahihingin din po natin sa ating 6193 06:59:30,360 --> 06:59:33,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga departamento, nandito rin po 6194 06:59:33,120 --> 06:59:34,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ulat na 6195 06:59:34,380 --> 06:59:37,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung karapatan po ng mga seafarer 6196 06:59:37,240 --> 06:59:39,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na malaman kung saan po yung 6197 06:59:39,100 --> 06:59:40,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ruta na dadaanan ng kanilang 6198 06:59:40,920 --> 06:59:42,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga vessels. Marami daw po 6199 06:59:42,840 --> 06:59:45,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi binibigay sa kanilang information 6200 06:59:45,020 --> 06:59:46,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: till nakasakay na sila. 6201 06:59:47,340 --> 06:59:49,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: In fact po, nakatanggap din po 6202 06:59:49,360 --> 06:59:50,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tayo na balita na 6203 06:59:50,740 --> 06:59:51,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung 6204 06:59:51,920 --> 06:59:55,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: masakit po sa loob na 6205 06:59:55,120 --> 06:59:57,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: namatay, nasi-farers 6206 06:59:57,000 --> 06:59:58,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na taga Calamba, Laguna, 6207 06:59:59,660 --> 07:00:00,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi po 6208 07:00:00,000 --> 07:00:05,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung nila alam ang ruta ng barko, nasa war zones, nasa high-risk areas po pala dadaan. 6209 07:00:05,180 --> 07:00:08,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So yung ganito pong karapatan ng ating mga seafarer, 6210 07:00:08,160 --> 07:00:16,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat matiyak po natin na masasakatuparan at hindi pangarap lamang para sa ating mga seafarers. 6211 07:00:18,240 --> 07:00:20,520 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 6212 07:00:21,200 --> 07:00:29,860 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: kung meron pong violations or kung meron pong mga sitwasyon na hindi po alam ng ating seafarer kung totoong ruta, 6213 07:00:30,000 --> 07:00:38,760 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ng kanilang pupuntuhan, pwede pong isubject po ng DMW into investigation, again, ang violators po. 6214 07:00:40,600 --> 07:00:45,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, Madam Speaker, narinig po natin yung mga nag-exercise ng kanilang right to refuse sailing. 6215 07:00:46,580 --> 07:00:53,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pwede niyo po ba kami i-update kung sa ngayon po, yung mga seafarers na gustong makauwi, ay nakauwi na po ba? 6216 07:00:54,940 --> 07:00:57,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ilang request po yung inyong natanggap? 6217 07:00:57,980 --> 07:01:03,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Tapos po, yung bilang din po ng mga seafarers na nakauwi na, 6218 07:01:05,020 --> 07:01:07,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ingin po sana ng representation na ito yung breakdown. 6219 07:01:09,800 --> 07:01:12,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagkatapos po ng ating deliberation, ay yung hapon. 6220 07:01:12,420 --> 07:01:13,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes, we will oblige. 6221 07:01:14,620 --> 07:01:16,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker. 6222 07:01:16,760 --> 07:01:24,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At muli, ang representation po na ito ay sumusuporta sa pagdadagdag ng pondo para sa Action Fund. 6223 07:01:25,420 --> 07:01:27,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Noway yung mga hindi pa po nakakakuha. 6224 07:01:27,440 --> 07:01:29,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang kanilang mga Action Fund ay makakuha na. 6225 07:01:29,660 --> 07:01:35,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Alam ko po, hindi madali ang sitwasyon, hindi lang dito sa bansa, kundi sa pandaig dito. 6226 07:01:36,040 --> 07:01:43,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya nga, kinakailangan at maasam po natin, habang tinataasan yung suporta para sa mga migrant workers, 6227 07:01:43,180 --> 07:01:49,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat higit natin tinataasan yung suporta para sa disenting trabaho dito sa Pilipinas, 6228 07:01:49,400 --> 07:01:52,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakabubuhay na sahod para sa ating mga manggagawang Pilipinas. 6229 07:01:52,860 --> 07:01:56,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor. 6230 07:01:57,440 --> 07:01:58,240 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Maraming salamat. 6231 07:02:01,480 --> 07:02:02,460 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 6232 07:02:03,300 --> 07:02:08,180 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Dada Kiramizmula to interpolate the sponsor. 6233 07:02:09,320 --> 07:02:14,880 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Dada Kiramizmula of Partilistak Bayan is hereby recognized for her interpolation. 6234 07:02:17,180 --> 07:02:20,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. 6235 07:02:20,480 --> 07:02:23,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu. 6236 07:02:23,800 --> 07:02:27,260 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: I have a few questions on the mass deportations. 6237 07:02:27,440 --> 07:02:29,980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: of Filipinos in the United States. 6238 07:02:30,780 --> 07:02:35,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor, my office has received reports 6239 07:02:35,340 --> 07:02:42,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng ating mga Filipino seafarers na under sa Magsaysay Maritime Corporation 6240 07:02:42,200 --> 07:02:49,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at nagtatrabaho sa Princess Cruises Limited ay sinearch ng walang warrant. 6241 07:02:50,260 --> 07:02:53,520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kinukuha ang kanilang mga gamit gaya ng cellphone 6242 07:02:53,520 --> 07:02:57,420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at inaakusahan ng krimen ng walang due process at ebidensya. 6243 07:02:57,440 --> 07:03:06,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa parehong linggo, sila ay dinedeport, pabalik sa Pilipinas. 6244 07:03:06,620 --> 07:03:14,440 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paulit-ulit na nangyayari ito bilang bahagi ng operational tidal wave ng Trump government sa US. 6245 07:03:15,500 --> 07:03:24,540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, what is the DMW's response to the mass deportations of Filipino seafarers 6246 07:03:24,540 --> 07:03:27,420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: in the United States under operational tidal wave? 6247 07:03:27,440 --> 07:03:41,900 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, habang rinerespeto po ng DMW ang sovereignty at mga batas ng ibang bansa, 6248 07:03:42,600 --> 07:03:49,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: nananatiling pong committed ang ating Philippine government para protektahan ang mga karapatan, 6249 07:03:49,980 --> 07:03:54,700 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang welfare and due process ng ating mga Filipino seafarers. 6250 07:03:54,700 --> 07:03:57,140 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Lalong-lalo na po sa mga ganitong sitwasyon. 6251 07:03:57,440 --> 07:04:06,600 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: We must also distinguish among an allegation, an immigration action, and a criminal filing. 6252 07:04:07,240 --> 07:04:11,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: The department will not prejudge the cases of our returning seafarers, 6253 07:04:12,200 --> 07:04:17,020 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: particularly when no criminal charge or conviction has been established. 6254 07:04:18,360 --> 07:04:24,660 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: The DMW's responsibility is to ensure that affected workers receive appropriate assistance, 6255 07:04:24,660 --> 07:04:27,420 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: that their cases are properly documented, 6256 07:04:27,440 --> 07:04:34,440 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and that the necessary coordination is undertaken with the relevant Philippine and foreign authorities, 6257 07:04:35,160 --> 07:04:37,960 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: consistent with the applicable laws and procedures. 6258 07:04:39,420 --> 07:04:47,740 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: We have also consulted the licensed manning agencies and their deported seafarers and provided them with assistance. 6259 07:04:48,400 --> 07:04:49,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po dito. 6260 07:04:50,280 --> 07:04:55,880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano po kaya nakikipag-ugnayan ang DMW sa Philippine Embassy sa US 6261 07:04:55,880 --> 07:04:59,880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para matiyak na may legal aid ang ating mga kababayan? 6262 07:05:01,560 --> 07:05:08,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Patuloy po ang pakikipag-ugnayan ng DMW with the Department of Foreign Affairs 6263 07:05:08,500 --> 07:05:13,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: sa ating mga migrant workers offices at sa mga kaukulang US authorities 6264 07:05:13,800 --> 07:05:21,000 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: upang mas maunawaan ang mga pangyayari at circumstances surrounding the removals. 6265 07:05:21,660 --> 07:05:25,680 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Tinitiyak din po natin na ang mga affected seafarers ay, 6266 07:05:25,880 --> 07:05:33,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: maayos na nare-refer para sa kinakailangan mga welfare, legal, at iba pang mga assistance. 6267 07:05:34,720 --> 07:05:42,720 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yun na po, ilan na po yan sa mga assistance at support na kaya pong ibigay ng DMW. 6268 07:05:43,180 --> 07:05:46,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. 6269 07:05:46,960 --> 07:05:52,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nakakalungkot no na we've received reports from some of the seafarers. 6270 07:05:52,020 --> 07:05:55,380 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Actually, dumaan po sila sa aking opisina kamakailan. 6271 07:05:55,880 --> 07:06:01,580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Who were detained before deportation that when they called the Philippine Embassy to the US, 6272 07:06:02,140 --> 07:06:07,420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: the response was, okay lang yan, makakalaya ka naman, diba? 6273 07:06:09,660 --> 07:06:12,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Does DMW share the same opinion? 6274 07:06:25,880 --> 07:06:32,580 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, currently po tinatrabaho po ito ng DMW 6275 07:06:32,580 --> 07:06:39,000 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: para po ma-make sure, or coordinated with, of course, the Manning Agency 6276 07:06:39,000 --> 07:06:46,260 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: para po meron pang, merong legal assistance po, supports pa lang. 6277 07:06:46,900 --> 07:06:49,600 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yun po ang aksyon na ginagawa ng DMW. 6278 07:06:49,600 --> 07:06:54,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat at naniniwala ako sa DMW na ito'y tutugunan nila. 6279 07:06:54,760 --> 07:06:55,520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nakakalungkot. 6280 07:06:55,520 --> 07:07:02,760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kasi currently, nasa mahigit dalawang daang seafarers na po ang nagkaroon ng ganitong problema. 6281 07:07:03,300 --> 07:07:06,600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yung tinatawag nilang operational tidal wave. 6282 07:07:07,740 --> 07:07:15,460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kamakailan ay naglabas na po sila ng kanilang press release patungkol dito sa nangyari sa kanila. 6283 07:07:15,620 --> 07:07:19,400 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kasi wala po eh, walang nagre-report, hindi po ito lumalabas sa media. 6284 07:07:19,400 --> 07:07:25,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At ang masaklap pa, sasabihan po sila ng ating embahada na nasa US na, 6285 07:07:25,520 --> 07:07:28,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: okay lang yan, makakalaya ka naman. 6286 07:07:29,220 --> 07:07:29,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Saklap, di ba? 6287 07:07:30,680 --> 07:07:35,360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Umalis ako ng aking bansa, pupunta ako para maging isang seafarer, 6288 07:07:36,020 --> 07:07:39,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: malalaman ko na lang na ako'y ipapababa at ako'y ipapadeport, 6289 07:07:40,140 --> 07:07:45,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pero idedetain pa ako at popusasan pa ako ng ilang oras, no? 6290 07:07:45,480 --> 07:07:53,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, sana po ay matugunan po natin ito sa lalong madaling panahon, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. 6291 07:07:55,520 --> 07:08:01,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, magkano po kaya ang na-dispersed na mula sa Action Fund 6292 07:08:01,740 --> 07:08:06,860 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para sa mga Pilipinong biktima ng mass deportations na walang due process? 6293 07:08:09,060 --> 07:08:16,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, so far 222 seafarers have been deported 6294 07:08:16,800 --> 07:08:24,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and each were given 50,000 pesos in financial assistance under the Action Fund. 6295 07:08:24,980 --> 07:08:31,720 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: So, total po, 11.1 million po ang na-dispersed galing sa Action Fund. 6296 07:08:32,300 --> 07:08:33,280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 6297 07:08:33,860 --> 07:08:43,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: My office also received reports that there are instances wherein six months since the seafarer has returned to the Philippines, 6298 07:08:43,820 --> 07:08:47,420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: hindi pa rin narirelease ang Action Fund sa nasabing seafarers. 6299 07:08:47,920 --> 07:08:51,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Sponsor, what is the reason kaya behind this? 6300 07:08:54,980 --> 07:09:01,640 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, again, the reasoning behind the delay is because of the Middle East tensions 6301 07:09:01,640 --> 07:09:07,600 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and unfortunately po yun ang nag-cause ng delay but right now, DMW is catching up 6302 07:09:07,600 --> 07:09:18,020 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and we're committed to going back to the 30-day disbursement po ng assistance for our OFWs. 6303 07:09:18,020 --> 07:09:24,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Just to put into record lang, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, can the DMW commit to ensure 6304 07:09:24,820 --> 07:09:31,520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: the expedient release of, or hindi lalagpas ng 30 days from today po? 6305 07:09:32,240 --> 07:09:33,860 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes po, makakaasa po kayo. 6306 07:09:33,940 --> 07:09:35,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po, no? 6307 07:09:35,120 --> 07:09:47,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And finally, can the Distinguished Sponsor explain to us po, ano itong tinatawag nilang Abu Dhabi Dialogue at bakit ito mahalaga? 6308 07:10:10,380 --> 07:10:17,660 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, the Abu Dhabi Dialogue was established in 2028 6309 07:10:17,660 --> 07:10:23,220 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: at ito po ay isang voluntary inter-government consultative forum 6310 07:10:23,220 --> 07:10:27,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: linking Asian countries of labor origin and destination 6311 07:10:27,500 --> 07:10:40,520 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: and it aims to enable safe, orderly, and regular migration. Currently po, mayroon po siyang 10 member states including the Gulf States po. 6312 07:10:41,280 --> 07:10:43,940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At magkano po kaya ang nakalaan pondo para dito? 6313 07:10:54,800 --> 07:11:00,860 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, currently wala po siyang allotment sa NEP. 6314 07:11:01,320 --> 07:11:07,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: That's why nag-manifest po ang DMW ng kanilang request for 60 million pesos po 6315 07:11:07,800 --> 07:11:17,900 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: to host at least three conferences po para sa Abu Dhabi Dialogue. 6316 07:11:18,300 --> 07:11:19,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 60 million pesos. 6317 07:11:20,140 --> 07:11:23,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And ang Pilipinas ang host po para dito. 6318 07:11:23,200 --> 07:11:24,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba? 6319 07:11:24,520 --> 07:11:24,780 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes. 6320 07:11:25,260 --> 07:11:32,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kakalungkot no na host pa naman tayo pero wala tayong pondo para dito at napaka-importante po pala nito. 6321 07:11:32,980 --> 07:11:39,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sinusuportahan ng representasyong ito ang paglalaan ng pondo para sa Abu Dhabi Dialogue. 6322 07:11:39,640 --> 07:11:45,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mahalaga ang pondong ito upang maipagpatuloy ang mga programa para sa pagsasanay, 6323 07:11:46,600 --> 07:11:54,400 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: proteksyon at mas maayos na kapakanan ng ating mga OFWs at iba pang migrant workers sa Middle East. 6324 07:11:54,800 --> 07:12:01,460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And in closing, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, thank you for yielding into my questions. 6325 07:12:02,100 --> 07:12:10,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nais kong muling ipahayag ang aking panawagan noong budget briefing na sa gitna ng umiiral na global conflict, 6326 07:12:10,340 --> 07:12:22,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mas higit nating kailangan ang matatag na DMW at OWA na may sapat na pondo upang matugunan ang pangangailangan ng ating mga overseas Filipino workers. 6327 07:12:23,480 --> 07:12:24,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: I therefore manifest... 6328 07:12:24,800 --> 07:12:29,980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: I express my strong support for increasing the budget of the DMW and OWA, 6329 07:12:30,560 --> 07:12:37,680 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: particularly with the repatriation program and assistance programs to distressed OFWs, 6330 07:12:37,680 --> 07:12:49,380 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: with the guarantee na masiguro ng DMW ang mabilis, maayos at sapat na tulong sa ating mga kababayang OFWs sa oras ng pangangailangan. 6331 07:12:49,960 --> 07:12:53,880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nakikita natin ang epekto pag nagagawa ng isang ahensya, 6332 07:12:53,880 --> 07:13:01,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang kanilang mandato, which is evident sa mga nagagawa ng ating DMW Region 9, 6333 07:13:01,700 --> 07:13:14,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: gaya ng pagtatayo ng First Regional OFW Airport Lounge outside na IA at First Regional Dedicated OFW Ward na sana ay magawa rin sa iba pang mga regyon. 6334 07:13:15,300 --> 07:13:22,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Naniniwala ako na sa gabay at tinig ng ating distinguished sponsor, this August Chamber will favorably... 6335 07:13:23,880 --> 07:13:30,180 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: consider and strengthen the department's budget, particularly for these vital programs. 6336 07:13:30,380 --> 07:13:34,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat, Madam Sponsor. 6337 07:13:34,660 --> 07:13:35,600 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 6338 07:13:37,420 --> 07:13:49,600 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Honorable Iris Montes, 4K Partylist, to interpelate on the proposed budget of the DMW. 6339 07:13:51,500 --> 07:13:53,600 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Montes is recognized for her interpelation. 6340 07:13:53,880 --> 07:13:56,100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Chair. 6341 07:13:56,560 --> 07:14:02,640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ilang katanungan lamang po mula sa kababaihan, kabalikatan para sa kapakanan at kaunlaran ng bayan. 6342 07:14:03,920 --> 07:14:10,500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Women consistently account for the majority of newly deployed land-based overseas Filipino workers, 6343 07:14:11,060 --> 07:14:19,260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: predominantly in domestic care work, a sector inherently prone to isolation, abuse, and labor exploitation. 6344 07:14:20,020 --> 07:14:23,260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Under the proposed 2027 budget, 6345 07:14:23,260 --> 07:14:33,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: how much of the agarang kalinga at saklolo para sa mga OFW na nangangailangan or action fund is explicitly sub-allocated 6346 07:14:33,840 --> 07:14:42,980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: for immediate legal intervention, medical treatment, and physical rescue of abused female domestic workers? 6347 07:14:52,500 --> 07:15:00,000 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, as of now po, ang action fund ay ready po na ma- 6348 07:15:00,000 --> 07:15:08,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: The entire fund is ready to be used for any cases para po sa kahit sinong OFW na nangangailangan. 6349 07:15:08,980 --> 07:15:16,840 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: So far po, over 50% ay actually nabigay po para sa ating mga kababaihan na OFWs. 6350 07:15:16,900 --> 07:15:19,880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: 50% po yung halos ang naibigay mo. 6351 07:15:19,880 --> 07:15:20,640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: More than 50%. 6352 07:15:20,640 --> 07:15:23,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: More than. Kasi mas marami nga po sila. 6353 07:15:23,320 --> 07:15:34,640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I remember during the last budget hearing, I specifically requested po talaga sa DMW to have a sex disaggregated data. 6354 07:15:35,100 --> 07:15:42,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Isa po yan sa concern ko na talagang dapat ma-disaggregate yung data para alam po natin at magkano din po ang ilalaan. 6355 07:15:43,000 --> 07:15:48,200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi marami po talaga sila para natutugunan po natin yung pangangailangan nila. 6356 07:15:49,200 --> 07:15:53,300 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: My next question po, under RA 9710. 6357 07:15:53,320 --> 07:15:59,920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: or the Magna Carta of Women, government agencies are required to protect women in specially difficult circumstances. 6358 07:16:00,660 --> 07:16:08,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Out of the total operational budget of the migrant workers' offices and runaway shelters overseas, 6359 07:16:08,880 --> 07:16:17,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: what specific line item is allocated to ensure that these shelters have trauma-informed female personnel, 6360 07:16:19,340 --> 07:16:21,920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: dedicated mental health professionals, 6361 07:16:22,640 --> 07:16:22,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and gender... 6362 07:16:23,320 --> 07:16:24,940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: gender-sensitive facilities? 6363 07:16:25,480 --> 07:16:33,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Siguro po, kahit including mga gender-sensitive professionals din po, like yung mga gynecologists and the like. 6364 07:16:47,800 --> 07:16:50,160 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 6365 07:16:50,660 --> 07:16:52,160 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang pondo po na ginagamit, 6366 07:16:52,160 --> 07:17:03,220 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: or specific line item po ay ang ating Migrant Workers Resource Centers at ang ating Labor Attachés Fund. 6367 07:17:03,500 --> 07:17:05,180 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yun po ang pinanggagalingan. 6368 07:17:05,940 --> 07:17:09,880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 6369 07:17:10,880 --> 07:17:21,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Uso po ngayon, ang dami po ngayong mga digital job scams and human trafficking rings continue to target young, vulnerable women, 6370 07:17:21,320 --> 07:17:28,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: especially in rural areas, ano, for illegal placement in cyber fraud hubs across Southeast Asia. 6371 07:17:29,460 --> 07:17:35,520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ano po, meron po, bawat direct budget allocation is set aside in the 2027 budget 6372 07:17:35,520 --> 07:17:47,080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: under the Illegal Recruitment Combat Directorates to expand anti-trafficking law enforcement and digital monitoring down to the LGU level. 6373 07:17:49,180 --> 07:17:51,160 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 6374 07:17:51,160 --> 07:18:02,300 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: so far po, para po sa mga illegal recruitment, meron po tayong 18 million po na pondo na nakalaan po para dito. 6375 07:18:03,220 --> 07:18:04,240 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 18 million, yes. 6376 07:18:04,700 --> 07:18:08,380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: 18 million lamang po ang pondo para dyan? 6377 07:18:08,600 --> 07:18:08,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Opo. 6378 07:18:10,020 --> 07:18:17,600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Isang napakalaking problema po meron tayo ngayon tungkol dyan sa mga digital job scams na yan, 6379 07:18:17,600 --> 07:18:21,140 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: tapos 18 million lang po ang nakalaan na pondo. 6380 07:18:21,160 --> 07:18:34,800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Siguro dapat po ay mahiling po natin na madagdagan po ang pondong iyan kasi napakalaki po ng hinaharap na problema ngayon ng DMW din tungkol dyan. 6381 07:18:35,700 --> 07:18:40,640 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Yes po, kaya po kasama rin po sa manifestation ng DMW, 6382 07:18:40,640 --> 07:18:50,800 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: ang additional funding po na hiningi nila for 2 billion pesos ay syempre po parte po ng mailalaan po para sa legal recruitment and illegal, 6383 07:18:50,800 --> 07:18:52,500 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: or anti-trafficking efforts po. 6384 07:18:53,020 --> 07:18:55,920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor. 6385 07:18:56,900 --> 07:19:07,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: A major driver of repeated migration cycles among women is the absence of viable domestic economic opportunities upon returning home. 6386 07:19:07,720 --> 07:19:11,640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kaya nga po sila umaalis din dahil kulang dun sa economic opportunities. 6387 07:19:12,040 --> 07:19:13,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ganun din po, pagbalik, ganun pa rin. 6388 07:19:13,840 --> 07:19:19,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Under the DMW and Overseas Workers' Welfare Administration Joint Reintegration, 6389 07:19:20,800 --> 07:19:30,100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: budget for 2027, ano po ang proportion, what proportion of funds is directly earmarked for high-value skills training, 6390 07:19:30,620 --> 07:19:42,800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: siguro po sa technology, healthcare, specialization, kasi yun po ang medyo mas malaki ang demand sa ating mga returning female OFWs. 6391 07:20:32,680 --> 07:20:35,240 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 6392 07:20:35,440 --> 07:20:43,080 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Para po sa Balik Pinay Program, 45 million pesos po ang nakalaan para dito. 6393 07:20:43,720 --> 07:20:50,360 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: At it's also worth mentioning po siguro na ang ating ERF or Emergency Repatriation Fund, 6394 07:20:50,780 --> 07:20:53,980 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 79% po nito ay nalaan para po sa kababaihan. 6395 07:20:54,120 --> 07:20:59,760 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: So that's over 1 billion po na pondo na naiilaan po para sa kababaihan. 6396 07:21:00,140 --> 07:21:03,420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 6397 07:21:04,000 --> 07:21:06,400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pag-huling katanungan na lamang po, ano? 6398 07:21:07,060 --> 07:21:13,660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: What quantifiable indicators and gender disaggregated baseline data 6399 07:21:13,660 --> 07:21:18,240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: does the DMW use in the 2027 budget proposal 6400 07:21:18,240 --> 07:21:20,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: to track whether returning female 6401 07:21:20,620 --> 07:21:21,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: migrants 6402 07:21:21,820 --> 07:21:27,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: successfully transition out of precarious low-wage care work 6403 07:21:27,960 --> 07:21:32,640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: into sustainable domestic livelihoods or formal employment? 6404 07:21:32,960 --> 07:21:35,740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Meron po ba tayong indicators? 6405 07:21:36,040 --> 07:21:38,300 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Meron tayong sistema ang ginagamit? 6406 07:21:46,780 --> 07:21:50,460 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 6407 07:21:50,460 --> 07:21:56,300 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: meron po ng budget ng DMW every year ay nakalaan po para sa monitoring services 6408 07:21:56,300 --> 07:22:03,640 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: para po makita natin kung saan po ba or enough po ba ang nalalaan para sa ating mga kababaihan. 6409 07:22:03,640 --> 07:22:07,720 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: At meron din po tayong disaggregated data tungkol dyan. 6410 07:22:08,340 --> 07:22:10,640 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Meron po. We can provide... 6411 07:22:20,460 --> 07:22:27,920 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Sorry, I have the data here. 6412 07:22:29,600 --> 07:22:38,200 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: For the Balikpinay Balikhanap Buhay Program, 6413 07:22:38,200 --> 07:22:44,060 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 79% po ng mga beneficiaries are female. 6414 07:22:45,080 --> 07:22:48,760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 6415 07:22:50,460 --> 07:22:55,480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sa panghuli, payagan niyo po akong ipahayag na alam naman po natin 6416 07:22:55,480 --> 07:22:58,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ang contribution ng ating mga OFWs. 6417 07:22:58,300 --> 07:23:02,060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Hindi natin po matatawaran ang ambag nila sa ating bayan. 6418 07:23:02,920 --> 07:23:08,140 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sila ang bumubuhay ng ating ekonomiya sa pamamagitan ng kanilang remittances. 6419 07:23:08,680 --> 07:23:14,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sila ang nagdadala ng dangal ng Pilipino sa iba't ibang lugar or panig ng mundo. 6420 07:23:14,700 --> 07:23:19,060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At sila rin ang nagbabayad ng pinakamataas na halaga. 6421 07:23:19,720 --> 07:23:20,300 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang pagkakahiwan. 6422 07:23:20,460 --> 07:23:25,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang pagkakahiwalay sa pamilya at ang panganib sa kanilang kaligtasan. 6423 07:23:25,960 --> 07:23:32,280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kaya naman nararapat na ang Department of Migrant Workers ay bigyan ng mas mataas na pondo 6424 07:23:32,280 --> 07:23:42,360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: upang matiyak na ang proteksyon, suporta at reintegrasyon ng ating mga OFWs ay tunay na maisa sa katuparan. 6425 07:23:43,400 --> 07:23:50,100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sa bawat pisong ilalaan sa DMW, nakataya ang buhay at kinabukasan ng milyong-milyong Pilipino 6426 07:23:50,460 --> 07:23:51,280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa bayong dagat. 6427 07:23:51,620 --> 07:23:59,760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kaya't hinihiling natin na ang 2027 budget ng DMW ay palakasin upang ang kanilang sakripisyo ay masuklian 6428 07:23:59,760 --> 07:24:07,540 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ng mas matibay na proteksyon, mas maayos na serbisyo at mas makabuluhang suporta mula sa pamahalaan. 6429 07:24:08,200 --> 07:24:11,480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 6430 07:24:12,860 --> 07:24:17,580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Speaker, since there are no more members of the minority who wish to interpolate, 6431 07:24:17,580 --> 07:24:20,260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I move to terminate the period of sponsorship. 6432 07:24:20,460 --> 07:24:27,140 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: The debate on the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers and including its attached agencies. 6433 07:24:27,160 --> 07:24:27,940 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 6434 07:24:28,540 --> 07:24:35,760 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate 6435 07:24:35,760 --> 07:24:41,780 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: the period of interpolation of the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers. 6436 07:24:42,500 --> 07:24:49,780 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a joint motion from the majority and the minority to terminate the sponsorship debate and interpolation 6437 07:24:50,460 --> 07:24:55,540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers, including its attached agencies. 6438 07:24:55,820 --> 07:24:56,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Do we hear an objection? 6439 07:24:57,740 --> 07:24:59,560 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, said motion is approved. 6440 07:25:01,240 --> 07:25:07,080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The period of sponsorship debate and interpolation of the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers, 6441 07:25:07,280 --> 07:25:10,360 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: including its attached agencies, is hereby terminated. 6442 07:25:11,620 --> 07:25:12,460 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 6443 07:25:13,040 --> 07:25:15,200 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes. 6444 07:25:15,200 --> 07:25:15,940 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended. 6445 07:30:33,440 --> 07:30:34,540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. 6446 07:30:36,160 --> 07:30:37,000 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 6447 07:30:37,340 --> 07:30:44,200 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas. 6448 07:30:45,400 --> 07:30:56,260 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Is there an objection? Hearing none, the period of sponsorship debate and interpellation on the proposed budget of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas is hereby opened. Majority Leader. 6449 07:30:56,260 --> 07:31:18,980 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Before we proceed, Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the department. They are the following: Secretary Dante Francis M. Ang II, Chief Administrative Officer Ms. Tiffany Jones V. Uriate, Mr. Romeo M. Rosas II, Ariel T. Cruz, Mr. Jans Jerome Bentula, Madam Speaker. 6450 07:31:20,620 --> 07:31:33,160 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Commission on Filipinos Overseas family, headed by Secretary Dante Francis Ang II, maraming salamat sa inyong pagdalo. Welcome to the House of the People. Majority Leader. 6451 07:31:33,540 --> 07:31:35,740 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize 6452 07:31:35,740 --> 07:31:38,220 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: the Honorable Irene G. Labad-Labad, 6453 07:31:38,420 --> 07:31:39,820 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Vice Chair, to 6454 07:31:39,820 --> 07:31:41,960 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: sponsor the proposed budget for the Commission 6455 07:31:41,960 --> 07:31:43,060 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: on Filipinos Overseas. 6456 07:31:43,260 --> 07:31:46,280 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Labad-Labad is hereby recognized 6457 07:31:46,280 --> 07:31:48,180 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to sponsor the proposed 6458 07:31:48,180 --> 07:31:50,360 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: budget of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas. 6459 07:31:51,240 --> 07:31:51,960 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Madam Speaker, 6460 07:31:52,200 --> 07:31:53,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Distinguished Members of the House of 6461 07:31:53,880 --> 07:31:56,040 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Representatives, it is my privilege 6462 07:31:56,040 --> 07:31:57,780 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: to sponsor the proposed budget 6463 07:31:57,780 --> 07:31:59,440 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: of the Commission on Filipino 6464 07:31:59,440 --> 07:32:01,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Overseas for 6465 07:32:01,340 --> 07:32:03,140 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: Fiscal Year 2027 6466 07:32:03,140 --> 07:32:04,340 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: for the total 6467 07:32:04,340 --> 07:32:06,780 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: spending of 6468 07:32:06,780 --> 07:32:09,200 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: for the total budget of 6469 07:32:09,200 --> 07:32:13,080 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: 195,200,000 pesos. 6470 07:32:13,780 --> 07:32:14,900 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: This representation 6471 07:32:14,900 --> 07:32:16,880 Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad: is now ready for interpolation. 6472 07:32:20,140 --> 07:32:21,280 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, 6473 07:32:21,940 --> 07:32:23,340 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: I move to recognize the Honorable 6474 07:32:23,340 --> 07:32:24,140 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Presley De Jesus. 6475 07:32:25,300 --> 07:32:27,600 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Presley De Jesus is hereby recognized 6476 07:32:27,600 --> 07:32:28,780 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: for his interpolation. 6477 07:32:29,440 --> 07:32:31,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 6478 07:32:33,020 --> 07:32:33,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, 6479 07:32:34,280 --> 07:32:36,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more members 6480 07:32:36,060 --> 07:32:37,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the minority 6481 07:32:37,140 --> 07:32:39,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpolate, 6482 07:32:40,040 --> 07:32:41,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate 6483 07:32:41,400 --> 07:32:44,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the period of sponsorship and debate 6484 07:32:44,080 --> 07:32:45,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the budget of the 6485 07:32:45,980 --> 07:32:48,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Commission on Filipinos Overseas. 6486 07:32:48,580 --> 07:32:50,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Madam Speaker. 6487 07:32:50,400 --> 07:32:51,160 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 6488 07:32:51,660 --> 07:32:53,280 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, 6489 07:32:53,460 --> 07:32:56,100 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: we join the minority in the motion to terminate 6490 07:32:56,100 --> 07:32:58,280 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: the period of interpolations on the proposed budget 6491 07:32:58,280 --> 07:32:59,420 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: for the proposed budget of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas. 6492 07:32:59,440 --> 07:33:02,480 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Commission on Filipinos Overseas. 6493 07:33:03,240 --> 07:33:04,540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There's a joint motion 6494 07:33:04,540 --> 07:33:06,740 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to terminate the period of sponsorship, 6495 07:33:06,960 --> 07:33:08,180 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: debate, and interpolation 6496 07:33:08,180 --> 07:33:11,900 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: on the proposed budget of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas. 6497 07:33:12,380 --> 07:33:13,020 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Any objection? 6498 07:33:13,620 --> 07:33:15,500 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, said motion is approved. 6499 07:33:16,560 --> 07:33:21,480 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The interpolation of the proposed budget 6500 07:33:21,480 --> 07:33:22,700 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas 6501 07:33:22,700 --> 07:33:23,820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is hereby terminated. 6502 07:33:24,660 --> 07:33:25,560 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 6503 07:33:29,440 --> 07:33:30,240 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, 6504 07:33:31,020 --> 07:33:33,920 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: I now move to consider the proposed budget 6505 07:33:33,920 --> 07:33:36,580 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: of the National Commission on Indigenous Peoples. 6506 07:33:38,040 --> 07:33:38,640 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: An objection? 6507 07:33:38,900 --> 07:33:40,380 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, said motion is approved. 6508 07:33:40,820 --> 07:33:41,580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 6509 07:33:42,260 --> 07:33:44,520 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials 6510 07:33:44,520 --> 07:33:45,800 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: of the NCIP. 6511 07:33:46,200 --> 07:33:46,820 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: They are the following. 6512 07:33:47,460 --> 07:33:49,500 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Secretary Nancy Catamco, 6513 07:33:49,780 --> 07:33:52,900 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Commissioner-Attorney Rodex Valenciano, 6514 07:33:53,480 --> 07:33:55,020 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Commissioner Alex Centena, 6515 07:33:55,440 --> 07:33:57,580 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Commissioner-Attorney Alberto Lagamon, 6516 07:33:58,120 --> 07:33:59,220 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Commissioner-Attorney Leslie 6517 07:33:59,440 --> 07:34:00,880 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: May Plaza, Madam Speaker. 6518 07:34:02,960 --> 07:34:05,160 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the NCIP family, 6519 07:34:06,360 --> 07:34:08,100 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: welcome to the House of the People. 6520 07:34:08,220 --> 07:34:08,900 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 6521 07:34:10,020 --> 07:34:10,600 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, 6522 07:34:10,840 --> 07:34:13,140 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: I move that we recognize the Honorable, 6523 07:34:13,800 --> 07:34:14,800 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: the following Vice Chairs, 6524 07:34:15,000 --> 07:34:16,720 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Vice Chair Josefina B. Talado 6525 07:34:16,720 --> 07:34:19,840 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: and Vice Chair Rodolfo Ompong M. Ordanez 6526 07:34:19,840 --> 07:34:22,240 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: to sponsor the proposed budget of the NCIP. 6527 07:34:23,200 --> 07:34:23,820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Any objection? 6528 07:34:23,820 --> 07:34:25,060 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, 6529 07:34:25,140 --> 07:34:27,140 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the Honorable Vice Chair Josefina Talado 6530 07:34:27,140 --> 07:34:28,960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: as well as the Honorable, 6531 07:34:29,440 --> 07:34:31,160 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Rodolfo Ompong M. Ordanez 6532 07:34:31,160 --> 07:34:32,540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of Partily Senior Citizens 6533 07:34:32,540 --> 07:34:33,780 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: are hereby recognized 6534 07:34:33,780 --> 07:34:36,240 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: as sponsors of the National Commission 6535 07:34:36,240 --> 07:34:39,360 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: on Indigenous Peoples' Proposed Budget. 6536 07:34:43,520 --> 07:34:44,780 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, 6537 07:34:46,160 --> 07:34:48,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: at sa aking mga kagalang-galang na kasamahan 6538 07:34:48,500 --> 07:34:49,440 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: sa kapulungan, 6539 07:34:51,480 --> 07:34:52,780 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ako po ay humaharap ngayon 6540 07:34:52,780 --> 07:34:55,140 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: bilang sponsor ng panukalang budget 6541 07:34:55,140 --> 07:34:58,740 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ng National Commission on Indigenous Peoples. 6542 07:34:59,440 --> 07:35:02,220 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Para sa Fiscal Year 2027. 6543 07:35:04,020 --> 07:35:06,620 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: This Fiscal Year 2027, 6544 07:35:07,660 --> 07:35:09,240 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: humiling po ang NCIP 6545 07:35:09,240 --> 07:35:13,380 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ng kabuoang 3.608 billion. 6546 07:35:14,420 --> 07:35:17,420 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Subalit, sa ilalim ng National Expenditure Program 6547 07:35:17,420 --> 07:35:18,700 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: or NEP, 6548 07:35:19,340 --> 07:35:22,480 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: 1.831 billion lamang ang inilaat, 6549 07:35:23,440 --> 07:35:25,000 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: na halos kalahati lamang 6550 07:35:25,000 --> 07:35:28,000 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ng aktual na pangailangan ng ahensya 6551 07:35:28,000 --> 07:35:29,280 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: para sa 6552 07:35:29,280 --> 07:35:30,160 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: susunod na taon. 6553 07:35:31,300 --> 07:35:32,820 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 6554 07:35:38,000 --> 07:35:39,080 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker. 6555 07:35:39,780 --> 07:35:40,740 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 6556 07:35:41,580 --> 07:35:43,720 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize 6557 07:35:43,720 --> 07:35:45,540 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: the Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula 6558 07:35:45,540 --> 07:35:46,920 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: to interpolate the sponsor. 6559 07:35:48,080 --> 07:35:49,640 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula 6560 07:35:49,640 --> 07:35:50,960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of Party-list Akbayan 6561 07:35:50,960 --> 07:35:54,140 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is hereby recognized 6562 07:35:54,140 --> 07:35:55,280 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: for her interpolation. 6563 07:35:59,280 --> 07:36:04,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Asalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu. 6564 07:36:04,720 --> 07:36:05,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, 6565 07:36:05,820 --> 07:36:07,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: good sponsor, 6566 07:36:08,920 --> 07:36:11,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: since karamihan ng mga ancestral domains 6567 07:36:11,820 --> 07:36:14,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ay nasa mga regions, 6568 07:36:14,020 --> 07:36:14,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: my plano bang investment 6569 07:36:14,960 --> 07:36:16,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa mga regional 6570 07:36:16,500 --> 07:36:18,040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: or field offices 6571 07:36:18,040 --> 07:36:19,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa 2027? 6572 07:36:38,140 --> 07:36:55,560 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, yes, since most ancestral domains and ICCs/IPs are located in the regions, we recognize that NCIP's capacity must also be strongest at the field level. 6573 07:36:56,700 --> 07:37:12,420 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: For 2027, our direction is to strengthen our regional, provincial, and community service centers by providing the necessary technical personnel, field resources, and operational support. 6574 07:37:13,780 --> 07:37:19,240 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Marami po sa trabaho ng NCIP ay ginagawa mismo sa communities. 6575 07:37:20,380 --> 07:37:26,120 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Tulad po ng ancestral domain, delineation, census, and validation. 6576 07:37:26,120 --> 07:37:44,220 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: This requires our personnel to actually reach the communities, including those in geographically isolated and disadvantaged areas. 6577 07:37:45,900 --> 07:37:51,840 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: So, strengthening the field offices is not simply an administrative investment. 6578 07:37:51,840 --> 07:37:54,840 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: It directly increases our capacity. 6579 07:37:56,120 --> 07:38:02,900 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: To deliver the mandate of NCIP, where our ICCs, IPs, actually are. 6580 07:38:04,040 --> 07:38:15,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, we have submitted our Tier 2 proposal for creation of 10 provincial offices and 36 community service centers. 6581 07:38:15,980 --> 07:38:23,700 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Unfortunately, it was not included in the 2027 NEP of NCIP. 6582 07:38:26,120 --> 07:38:29,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 6583 07:38:29,080 --> 07:38:44,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa NEP po ng 2027, nakasaad na ang 2025 GAA, target para sa percentage increase ng ancestral domains or lands recognized and delineated ay 11%. 6584 07:38:44,220 --> 07:38:48,260 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngunit ang actual performance ay 0%. 6585 07:38:48,260 --> 07:38:52,140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa 2026, target muli ay 11%. 6586 07:38:52,140 --> 07:38:55,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: As of today, ilang percent na po ba ang na-accomplish? 6587 07:38:56,020 --> 07:39:04,880 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: It is a target based on the Actual Cases Program. 6588 07:39:06,260 --> 07:39:12,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: There is states of processing, complexity, location, and the resources available for implementation. 6589 07:39:14,020 --> 07:39:19,980 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: At the same time, the 113 represents only the funded annual target. 6590 07:39:19,980 --> 07:39:25,980 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: It does not represent the total need or the total number of 6591 07:39:26,420 --> 07:39:30,920 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ancestral domain claims that NCIP still has to process. 6592 07:39:32,060 --> 07:39:41,720 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Kaya po, ang gusto namin ipakita sa Congress is the distinction between the funded target and the actual mandate. 6593 07:39:43,200 --> 07:39:54,680 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The NCIP will deliver what is funded while continuing to present the remaining requirements so that, over time, it can address the larger backlog. 6594 07:39:56,020 --> 07:39:59,460 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The target should be realistic enough to be accountable. 6595 07:39:59,460 --> 07:40:09,380 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: But the budget should also progressively respond to the actual universe of ancestral domains' claims that remain to be served. 6596 07:40:11,380 --> 07:40:12,040 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, 6597 07:40:13,200 --> 07:40:23,800 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: CAGTI and CALTI processing is the legal recognition of ancestral domain and ancestral land rights. 6598 07:40:24,140 --> 07:40:25,800 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: It is not an ordinary process. 6599 07:40:26,020 --> 07:40:30,780 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: It is not an ordinary permit or simple administrative transactions. 6600 07:40:31,680 --> 07:40:39,740 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ang kinikilala po natin dito ay karapatan sa lupa na may intergenerational consequences. 6601 07:40:41,040 --> 07:40:50,000 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Once recognized, it affects not only the present generation but also the generations that will come after them. 6602 07:40:50,000 --> 07:40:55,440 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: That is why the process has to be thorough and evidence-based. 6603 07:40:56,020 --> 07:41:17,040 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: It involves community participation, genealogical and historical research, census, survey and mapping, validation, resolution of boundary and overlapping claims, legal review, and ultimately, commission deliberations. 6604 07:41:17,040 --> 07:41:25,740 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: May mga pagkakataon din na kailangan ng coordination with DNR, DAR, LRA. 6605 07:41:26,020 --> 07:41:34,000 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: LGUs and other agencies, because land records, existing titles, surveys, 6606 07:41:34,020 --> 07:41:36,820 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: And other claims have to be reconciled. 6607 07:41:38,500 --> 07:41:42,320 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, ulitin ko po yung tanong ko. 6608 07:41:42,320 --> 07:41:50,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilang percent na ang na-accomplish na ADs and ALs ngayong 2026 po? 6609 07:41:51,960 --> 07:41:53,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Or as of today? 6610 07:42:04,020 --> 07:42:17,880 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, the 11% is the annual target based on the resources provided for 2027. 6611 07:42:17,880 --> 07:42:26,420 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: It does not represent the total number of ancestral domains and lands that still need to be processed. 6612 07:42:27,320 --> 07:42:33,880 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The 11% corresponds to the 30 ancestral domains or lands. 6613 07:42:34,020 --> 07:42:43,440 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: For many years, the budget of NCIP has not been proportionate to the actual universe of its mandate. 6614 07:42:44,820 --> 07:42:53,320 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Kaya po, ang target ay nakabatay sa kung ano ang kanyang pondohan, hindi sa kabuhuang pangangailangan. 6615 07:42:54,940 --> 07:43:00,660 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: This is precisely why NCIP proposed a higher budget. 6616 07:43:00,660 --> 07:43:03,660 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: So we can progressively increase our coverage. 6617 07:43:04,020 --> 07:43:09,520 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: And process more ancestral domains and land claims. 6618 07:43:10,200 --> 07:43:15,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige po, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, baguhin ko na lang ang tanong ko. 6619 07:43:15,780 --> 07:43:24,140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilan po ang na-accomplish na ng NCIP para mabigyan ng CalTee at CADTee for 2026? 6620 07:43:28,140 --> 07:43:33,140 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: For 2026 po, ang approved is tatlo pong CAD-T at 6621 07:43:34,020 --> 07:43:35,020 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: CAL-T. 6622 07:43:38,480 --> 07:43:42,440 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ang total po ay 529. 6623 07:43:46,580 --> 07:43:49,140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Approved, CADTee and CalTee. 6624 07:43:50,740 --> 07:43:52,140 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Approved po, approved. 6625 07:43:52,980 --> 07:43:56,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor. 6626 07:43:56,900 --> 07:44:01,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa NEP po ba ng 2027, target ulit po ay 11%. 6627 07:44:01,900 --> 07:44:08,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilan po ang tiyak na bilang ng ancestral domain na sakop ng target na ito? 6628 07:44:09,540 --> 07:44:13,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At bakit po taon-taon 11% lamang ang target ng NCIP? 6629 07:44:18,420 --> 07:44:28,040 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Sa 2027 po, Madam Speaker, ay 74 for 2027 ang target. 6630 07:44:30,000 --> 07:44:31,880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At bakit po kaya taon-taon? 6631 07:44:31,880 --> 07:44:34,180 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At bakit po kaya taon-taon 11% ang target natin? 6632 07:44:39,520 --> 07:44:50,260 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, yung 11% po is the annual target based on the resources provided for 2027. 6633 07:44:51,080 --> 07:44:58,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: It does not represent the total number of ancestral domains and lands that still need to be processed. 6634 07:44:58,500 --> 07:45:00,638 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The 11% 6635 07:45:00,638 --> 07:45:06,580 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: corresponds to 30 ancestral domain or land claims. 6636 07:45:07,640 --> 07:45:15,320 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: For many years, the budget for NCIP has not been proportionate to the actual universe of its mandate. 6637 07:45:16,260 --> 07:45:25,000 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Kaya po, ang target ay nakabatay sa kung ano ang kanyang pondohan, hindi sa kabuang pangangailangan. 6638 07:45:25,000 --> 07:45:29,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Naintindihan ko po ito, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor. 6639 07:45:30,180 --> 07:45:39,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaya dadako na lang po ako sa susunod na katanungan ko kasi paulit-ulit na lang po yung tanong ko, paulit-ulit din po yung nagiging sagot. 6640 07:45:40,260 --> 07:45:50,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa indicator ng percentage increase ng bilang ng IPs assisted sa plan formulation, parehong 7% ang target para sa 2026 at 2027. 6641 07:45:52,360 --> 07:45:54,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano po ang dahilan kung bakit hindi tumataas ang target? 6642 07:45:55,000 --> 07:45:59,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At paano ito nakaka-apekto sa mga IP communities? 6643 07:46:01,740 --> 07:46:10,020 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, we have a universe of 999 ancestral domains. 6644 07:46:10,920 --> 07:46:21,320 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Of these, 335 already have formulated ADSD PPS, leaving a gap of 664. 6645 07:46:24,980 --> 07:46:37,920 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: For fiscal year 2027, the funded target is only 30 ADSD PPS, equivalent to about 4.5% of the remaining gap. 6646 07:46:38,720 --> 07:46:42,640 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: After that, 634 would still remain. 6647 07:46:44,020 --> 07:46:46,760 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: This illustrates the mandate coverage gap. 6648 07:46:47,640 --> 07:46:54,820 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Our annual target is determined by available resources while the actual need is much larger. 6649 07:46:54,820 --> 07:46:57,860 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Maraming salamat po. 6650 07:46:58,160 --> 07:47:09,160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished sponsor, can the NCIP confirm if it has a concrete plan to expedite the release of Certificate of Ancestral Domain title? 6651 07:47:09,680 --> 07:47:20,760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Considering na mandato na ito ng komisyon mula pa noong na-enact ng IPRA, bakit tila nananatiling mabagal ang CAD-T issuance po natin? 6652 07:47:21,560 --> 07:47:22,960 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, 6653 07:47:24,500 --> 07:47:29,800 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: We are addressing not only the internal processing of CADTs and CALTs, 6654 07:47:29,900 --> 07:47:38,400 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: but also the interagency bottlenecks involving land records, registration, and overlapping claims. 6655 07:47:38,400 --> 07:47:55,000 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: NCIP has already met with the Land Registration Authority to streamline CADT/CALT registration and address overlaps and interagency requirements. 6656 07:47:56,280 --> 07:48:02,320 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: A technical working group was agreed upon to develop a clearer coordination mechanism. 6657 07:48:03,060 --> 07:48:11,820 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: We are also engaging in broader land justice initiatives, including the Supreme Court's Land and Justice Summit, 6658 07:48:12,600 --> 07:48:20,640 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: where systemic issues involving land disputes and overlapping claims can be addressed with the concerned institutions. 6659 07:48:20,640 --> 07:48:29,420 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The Supreme Court had identified the Land and Justice Summit as one of its justice sector initiatives. 6660 07:48:30,460 --> 07:48:34,260 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: So, our approach is both operational and structural. 6661 07:48:35,260 --> 07:48:42,720 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Expedite individual claims while addressing the policy fragmentation that causes recurring delays. 6662 07:48:43,120 --> 07:48:48,980 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The Admin Order there on the contracting out-of-survey services in delineation 6663 07:48:48,980 --> 07:48:50,620 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: has been approved. 6664 07:48:50,640 --> 07:48:52,480 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: It is approved and is up for publication. 6665 07:48:53,660 --> 07:49:00,260 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: There is also an ongoing effort on digitization of our services and process 6666 07:49:00,260 --> 07:49:05,620 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: for more efficient processing, monitoring, and record-keeping. 6667 07:49:07,420 --> 07:49:14,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: For this year po, sa 2026, saan po yung mga CAD-TIS na issue? 6668 07:49:15,620 --> 07:49:19,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano-anong mga regions at ano-anong mga tribes po? 6669 07:49:20,640 --> 07:49:26,620 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Sa Region 3 po, meron tayong isa. 6670 07:49:27,860 --> 07:49:30,220 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Region 12, meron pong apat. 6671 07:49:31,140 --> 07:49:33,200 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Region 9, meron pong tatlo. 6672 07:49:34,100 --> 07:49:36,580 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Region 6, meron pong apat. 6673 07:49:37,380 --> 07:49:39,440 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: At Region 7, meron pong lima. 6674 07:49:39,440 --> 07:49:47,440 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Or a total of 17 CAD-T in 2026. 6675 07:49:48,160 --> 07:49:50,620 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: As of July 31, 2026. 6676 07:49:50,640 --> 07:49:52,660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And ongoing pa po ito. 6677 07:49:52,800 --> 07:49:53,440 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Good sponsor. 6678 07:49:53,620 --> 07:49:54,040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po? 6679 07:49:56,200 --> 07:49:56,720 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Apo-apo. 6680 07:49:57,400 --> 07:49:58,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 6681 07:49:58,720 --> 07:50:09,760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Now, last year, you committed to look into the 20-year CAD-T application of Sitio Marihangin in Bugso, Palawan. 6682 07:50:10,420 --> 07:50:12,700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: What's the status of their application po? 6683 07:50:14,820 --> 07:50:15,900 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, 6684 07:50:15,900 --> 07:50:19,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: the CAD-T application involving 6685 07:50:19,100 --> 07:50:21,280 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: the Marihangin community 6686 07:50:21,280 --> 07:50:24,840 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: is being actively addressed by NCIP. 6687 07:50:26,040 --> 07:50:29,900 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The community requested funding for the processing of its CAD-T 6688 07:50:29,900 --> 07:50:33,420 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: under the 100 million funding allocation. 6689 07:50:34,480 --> 07:50:35,940 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The concerned field office 6690 07:50:35,940 --> 07:50:39,400 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: has already submitted the work and financial plan 6691 07:50:39,400 --> 07:50:41,460 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: for the CAD-T processing. 6692 07:50:42,460 --> 07:50:45,680 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: There is also an existing boundary conflict 6693 07:50:45,680 --> 07:50:48,920 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: involving overlapping ancestral domain 6694 07:50:48,920 --> 07:50:49,080 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: claims, 6695 07:50:49,600 --> 07:50:51,700 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: To address this, 6696 07:50:52,120 --> 07:50:55,660 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: funding for the conduct of the conflict resolution conference 6697 07:50:55,660 --> 07:50:59,000 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: has already been downloaded 6698 07:50:59,000 --> 07:51:00,700 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: to the field office. 6699 07:51:01,740 --> 07:51:02,440 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Our direction 6700 07:51:02,440 --> 07:51:05,420 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: is to resolve 6701 07:51:05,420 --> 07:51:07,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: the boundary issue 6702 07:51:07,640 --> 07:51:09,740 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: and proceed with the necessary 6703 07:51:09,740 --> 07:51:11,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: delineation activities 6704 07:51:12,180 --> 07:51:13,900 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: once the requirements 6705 07:51:13,900 --> 07:51:15,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: and funding arrangements 6706 07:51:16,140 --> 07:51:17,280 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: are in place. 6707 07:51:17,280 --> 07:51:19,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 6708 07:51:19,100 --> 07:51:20,600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: That's a good news po, no? 6709 07:51:20,700 --> 07:51:22,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 6710 07:51:23,020 --> 07:51:24,760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 6711 07:51:24,960 --> 07:51:26,160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngayong taon lamang, 6712 07:51:26,680 --> 07:51:30,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: naging mainit po ang usapin ng revised FPIC guidelines 6713 07:51:30,560 --> 07:51:33,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kung saan maraming ni-raise na concerns 6714 07:51:33,220 --> 07:51:35,940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang ating mga IP communities at networks 6715 07:51:35,940 --> 07:51:38,360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa aksyon ng NCIP na ito. 6716 07:51:38,960 --> 07:51:42,140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Personally, nakipag-dialog po tayo sa NCIP 6717 07:51:42,140 --> 07:51:43,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para rito. 6718 07:51:43,780 --> 07:51:45,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngunit pagkatapos nito, 6719 07:51:45,620 --> 07:51:47,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: wala na tayong nakuha 6720 07:51:47,080 --> 07:51:49,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: or natanggap na update tungkol dito. 6721 07:51:49,100 --> 07:51:51,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano na po kaya ang status 6722 07:51:51,100 --> 07:51:53,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano na po kaya ang status 6723 07:51:53,100 --> 07:51:55,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng revised FPIC guidelines? 6724 07:51:55,100 --> 07:51:57,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, 6725 07:51:57,100 --> 07:51:59,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: the revised FPIC guidelines 6726 07:51:59,100 --> 07:52:01,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: have already been approved 6727 07:52:01,100 --> 07:52:03,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: by the Commission en banc 6728 07:52:05,100 --> 07:52:07,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: and scheduled for publication. 6729 07:52:07,100 --> 07:52:09,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: This revision was not rushed. 6730 07:52:11,100 --> 07:52:13,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The review started as early as 2016 6731 07:52:13,100 --> 07:52:15,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: and went through years of consultations, 6732 07:52:17,100 --> 07:52:19,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: reviews and deliberations, 6733 07:52:19,100 --> 07:52:21,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: involving ICCs, 6734 07:52:21,100 --> 07:52:23,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: IPs and other stakeholders. 6735 07:52:25,100 --> 07:52:27,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: We recognize the concerns being raised 6736 07:52:27,100 --> 07:52:29,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: because FPIC 6737 07:52:29,100 --> 07:52:31,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: is not merely 6738 07:52:31,100 --> 07:52:33,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: an administrative process. 6739 07:52:33,100 --> 07:52:35,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: It is a fundamental right 6740 07:52:35,100 --> 07:52:37,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: of ICCs, IPs 6741 07:52:37,100 --> 07:52:39,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: to decide 6742 07:52:39,100 --> 07:52:41,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: whether a project may proceed 6743 07:52:41,100 --> 07:52:43,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: and if they consent 6744 07:52:43,100 --> 07:52:45,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: to set the conditions, 6745 07:52:45,100 --> 07:52:47,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: limitations and safeguards 6746 07:52:47,100 --> 07:52:49,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: necessary to protect 6747 07:52:49,100 --> 07:52:51,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: their ancestral domains, 6748 07:52:51,100 --> 07:52:53,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: identity and culture. 6749 07:52:53,100 --> 07:52:55,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Our objective 6750 07:52:55,100 --> 07:52:57,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: is to make government processing 6751 07:52:57,100 --> 07:52:59,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: more efficient and accountable 6752 07:52:59,100 --> 07:53:01,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: without weakening the 6753 07:53:01,100 --> 07:53:03,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: substance of FPIC. 6754 07:53:03,100 --> 07:53:05,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Efficiency should never 6755 07:53:05,100 --> 07:53:07,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: replace genuine community 6756 07:53:07,100 --> 07:53:09,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: consent. 6757 07:53:11,100 --> 07:53:13,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 6758 07:53:13,100 --> 07:53:15,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sana po ganun po talaga 6759 07:53:15,100 --> 07:53:17,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: yung nangyari. 6760 07:53:17,100 --> 07:53:19,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Unfortunately, 6761 07:53:19,100 --> 07:53:21,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ilang regional offices, 6762 07:53:21,100 --> 07:53:23,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ilang field offices po ang nakausap ko, 6763 07:53:23,100 --> 07:53:25,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ngunit ang sabi ng mga 6764 07:53:25,100 --> 07:53:27,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kakilala kong RD, 6765 07:53:27,100 --> 07:53:29,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang sabi nila, isang beses 6766 07:53:29,100 --> 07:53:31,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: lamang silang nakonsulta 6767 07:53:31,100 --> 07:53:33,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at hindi na po nila nakita 6768 07:53:33,100 --> 07:53:35,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang naging 6769 07:53:35,100 --> 07:53:37,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: draft ng FPIC 6770 07:53:37,100 --> 07:53:39,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na ito. Gusto ko sana 6771 07:53:39,100 --> 07:53:41,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pong maniwala sa sinabi 6772 07:53:41,100 --> 07:53:43,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng ating good sponsor. 6773 07:53:43,100 --> 07:53:45,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Unfortunately, sa mga 6774 07:53:45,100 --> 07:53:47,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nakalap kong balita at 6775 07:53:47,100 --> 07:53:49,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nabuha po naming mga impormasyon sa baba, 6776 07:53:49,100 --> 07:53:51,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: hindi po ganito ang nangyari. 6777 07:53:51,100 --> 07:53:53,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: I understand 6778 07:53:53,100 --> 07:53:55,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: that this has been 6779 07:53:55,100 --> 07:53:57,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: years of 6780 07:53:57,100 --> 07:53:59,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: drafting of the 6781 07:53:59,100 --> 07:54:01,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: new FPIC guidelines. 6782 07:54:01,100 --> 07:54:03,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero, 6783 07:54:03,100 --> 07:54:05,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: marami pa rin po ang hindi 6784 07:54:05,100 --> 07:54:07,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: naging masaya sa ano pang 6785 07:54:07,100 --> 07:54:09,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kabuoang FPIC 6786 07:54:09,100 --> 07:54:11,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: or revised FPIC guidelines 6787 07:54:11,100 --> 07:54:13,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na ito. 6788 07:54:13,100 --> 07:54:15,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa huling pag-uusap po namin 6789 07:54:15,100 --> 07:54:17,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng NCIP noong 6790 07:54:17,100 --> 07:54:19,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pumunta po kami 6791 07:54:19,100 --> 07:54:21,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa kanilang central office at 6792 07:54:21,100 --> 07:54:23,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nakipag-dialogue, ang sabi nila 6793 07:54:23,100 --> 07:54:25,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at a minimum, 6794 07:54:25,100 --> 07:54:27,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: meron silang 6795 07:54:27,100 --> 07:54:29,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ma-update doon sa mga 6796 07:54:29,100 --> 07:54:31,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ni-raise naming mga concerns, 6797 07:54:31,100 --> 07:54:33,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pero up to the present, 6798 07:54:33,100 --> 07:54:35,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ilang buwan na ang dumaan, 6799 07:54:35,100 --> 07:54:37,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: hindi pa rin kami nakatanggap 6800 07:54:37,100 --> 07:54:39,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng update dito. 6801 07:54:39,100 --> 07:54:41,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: I will move to my 6802 07:54:41,100 --> 07:54:43,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: next question, Madam Speaker, 6803 07:54:43,100 --> 07:54:45,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished Sponsor. 6804 07:54:45,100 --> 07:54:47,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dito rin ba sa approved revised FPIC guidelines? 6805 07:54:47,100 --> 07:54:49,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nananatiling 6806 07:54:49,100 --> 07:54:51,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: principal evidence ng consent 6807 07:54:51,100 --> 07:54:53,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng IPs, 6808 07:54:53,100 --> 07:54:55,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ICCs, ang memorandum 6809 07:54:55,100 --> 07:54:57,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: of agreement? 6810 07:55:01,100 --> 07:55:03,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Opo, Madam Speaker, 6811 07:55:03,100 --> 07:55:05,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: the core requirement 6812 07:55:05,100 --> 07:55:07,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: remains the genuine 6813 07:55:07,100 --> 07:55:09,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: consent of the affected 6814 07:55:09,100 --> 07:55:11,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ICCs, IPs, 6815 07:55:11,100 --> 07:55:13,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: through their own customary 6816 07:55:13,100 --> 07:55:15,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: decision-making process. 6817 07:55:15,100 --> 07:55:17,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The MOA is retained 6818 07:55:17,100 --> 07:55:19,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: because consent 6819 07:55:19,100 --> 07:55:21,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: is not simply a 6820 07:55:21,100 --> 07:55:23,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: yes. The community 6821 07:55:23,100 --> 07:55:25,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: has the right to set conditions, 6822 07:55:25,100 --> 07:55:27,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: limitations, 6823 07:55:27,100 --> 07:55:29,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: benefits, and safeguards, 6824 07:55:29,100 --> 07:55:31,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: and these commitments must be 6825 07:55:31,100 --> 07:55:33,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: clearly documented 6826 07:55:33,100 --> 07:55:35,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: and enforceable. 6827 07:55:35,100 --> 07:55:37,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: In short, FPIC 6828 07:55:37,100 --> 07:55:39,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: protects both 6829 07:55:39,100 --> 07:55:41,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: the community's right to decide 6830 07:55:41,100 --> 07:55:43,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: and its right to define 6831 07:55:43,100 --> 07:55:45,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: the terms under which 6832 07:55:45,100 --> 07:55:47,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: it gives consent. 6833 07:55:47,100 --> 07:55:49,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Finally, Madam Speaker, 6834 07:55:49,100 --> 07:55:51,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Sponsor, sa revised guidelines 6835 07:55:51,100 --> 07:55:53,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: din po, can the 6836 07:55:53,100 --> 07:55:55,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: NCIP elaborate 6837 07:55:55,100 --> 07:55:57,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang total timeline 6838 07:55:57,100 --> 07:55:59,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng FPIC once 6839 07:55:59,100 --> 07:56:01,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nag-commence po ito? 6840 07:56:03,100 --> 07:56:05,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano na po ang 6841 07:56:05,100 --> 07:56:07,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: naging timeline for 6842 07:56:07,100 --> 07:56:09,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: community deliberations? 6843 07:56:09,100 --> 07:56:11,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Isa po kasi sa naging concern ng ating 6844 07:56:11,100 --> 07:56:13,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mga IP communities ang 6845 07:56:13,100 --> 07:56:15,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pag-ikli ng kabuo 6846 07:56:15,100 --> 07:56:17,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang FPIC process. 6847 07:56:45,100 --> 07:56:47,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, 6848 07:56:47,100 --> 07:56:49,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: hindi po tama 6849 07:56:49,100 --> 07:56:51,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: na pinaikli ang 6850 07:56:51,100 --> 07:56:53,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: community deliberation. 6851 07:56:53,100 --> 07:56:55,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: In fact, 6852 07:56:55,100 --> 07:56:57,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: mas pinahaba po ito 6853 07:56:57,100 --> 07:56:59,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: under the 2026 6854 07:56:59,100 --> 07:57:01,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: FPIC guidelines. 6855 07:57:01,100 --> 07:57:03,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The community may 6856 07:57:03,100 --> 07:57:05,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: have up to 60 working days 6857 07:57:05,100 --> 07:57:07,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: for consensus 6858 07:57:07,100 --> 07:57:09,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: building and decision-making, 6859 07:57:09,100 --> 07:57:11,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: compared with 6860 07:57:11,100 --> 07:57:13,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: 30 days under the 2012 6861 07:57:13,100 --> 07:57:15,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: guidelines and 6862 07:57:15,100 --> 07:57:17,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: 43 calendar days 6863 07:57:17,100 --> 07:57:19,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: under E-BOS. 6864 07:57:19,100 --> 07:57:21,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Mas malinaw din po 6865 07:57:21,100 --> 07:57:23,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ngayon ang 6866 07:57:23,100 --> 07:57:25,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: accountability sa timeline. 6867 07:57:25,100 --> 07:57:27,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Maraming documentary 6868 07:57:27,100 --> 07:57:29,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: and administrative tasks 6869 07:57:29,100 --> 07:57:31,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: na ating ginagawa ng 6870 07:57:31,100 --> 07:57:33,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: NCIP ay 6871 07:57:33,100 --> 07:57:35,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: inilagay na sa responsibility 6872 07:57:35,100 --> 07:57:37,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ng proponent. 6873 07:57:37,100 --> 07:57:39,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Therefore, the time 6874 07:57:39,100 --> 07:57:41,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: consumed in completing those 6875 07:57:41,100 --> 07:57:43,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: requirements runs 6876 07:57:43,100 --> 07:57:45,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: against the proponent, 6877 07:57:45,100 --> 07:57:47,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: not the time of the community 6878 07:57:47,100 --> 07:57:49,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: to deliberate. 6879 07:57:49,100 --> 07:57:51,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: And there is no deemed consent. 6880 07:57:51,100 --> 07:57:53,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Consent 6881 07:57:53,100 --> 07:57:55,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: must be affirmatively 6882 07:57:55,100 --> 07:57:57,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: given by the ICC's 6883 07:57:57,100 --> 07:57:59,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: IPs through their 6884 07:57:59,100 --> 07:58:01,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: customary decision-making 6885 07:58:01,100 --> 07:58:03,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: process. 6886 07:58:03,100 --> 07:58:05,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, 6887 07:58:05,100 --> 07:58:07,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Sponsor, go ahead. 6888 07:58:07,100 --> 07:58:09,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, 6889 07:58:09,100 --> 07:58:11,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: the total timeline 6890 07:58:11,100 --> 07:58:13,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: for the FPIC process 6891 07:58:13,100 --> 07:58:15,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: for Category A projects, 6892 07:58:15,100 --> 07:58:17,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: extractive and large-scale 6893 07:58:17,100 --> 07:58:19,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: projects is 6894 07:58:19,100 --> 07:58:21,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: 163 working days. 6895 07:58:21,100 --> 07:58:23,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: 50 working days 6896 07:58:23,100 --> 07:58:25,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: for Category B 6897 07:58:25,100 --> 07:58:27,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: projects 6898 07:58:27,100 --> 07:58:29,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: and 20 days 6899 07:58:29,100 --> 07:58:31,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: for Category C 6900 07:58:31,100 --> 07:58:33,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: projects. 6901 07:58:33,100 --> 07:58:35,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, 6902 07:58:35,100 --> 07:58:37,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Good Sponsor, hindi po 6903 07:58:37,100 --> 07:58:39,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ibig sabihin eh 6904 07:58:39,100 --> 07:58:41,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: secured na po ang ating 6905 07:58:41,100 --> 07:58:43,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mga katutubo, ang ating 6906 07:58:43,100 --> 07:58:45,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mga IPs sa naging 6907 07:58:45,100 --> 07:58:47,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: paliwanag po ng NCIP 6908 07:58:47,100 --> 07:58:49,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: dito. With that, 6909 07:58:49,100 --> 07:58:51,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, 6910 07:58:51,100 --> 07:58:53,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished Sponsor, 6911 07:58:53,100 --> 07:58:55,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kung ganun man din 6912 07:58:55,100 --> 07:58:57,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: lang, baguhin na lang 6913 07:58:57,100 --> 07:58:59,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: natin ang pangalan ng NCIP. 6914 07:58:59,100 --> 07:59:01,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Gawin na lang po natin 6915 07:59:01,100 --> 07:59:03,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: no consent that's 6916 07:59:03,100 --> 07:59:05,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: informed and prior. 6917 07:59:05,100 --> 07:59:07,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa halip na free prior 6918 07:59:07,100 --> 07:59:09,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: and informed consent, force 6919 07:59:09,100 --> 07:59:11,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: force and 6920 07:59:11,100 --> 07:59:13,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mal-informed consent ang 6921 07:59:13,100 --> 07:59:15,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ginagawa dito sa bagong guidelines. 6922 07:59:15,100 --> 07:59:17,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: As the primary agency 6923 07:59:17,100 --> 07:59:19,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: for indigenous peoples, 6924 07:59:19,100 --> 07:59:21,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nakakadismayang hindi maganda 6925 07:59:21,100 --> 07:59:23,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang performance ng NCIP 6926 07:59:23,100 --> 07:59:25,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa pag-grant ng CAD-TIS 6927 07:59:25,100 --> 07:59:27,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at pagbago-bago 6928 07:59:27,100 --> 07:59:29,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at pinapaikot na 6929 07:59:29,100 --> 07:59:31,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: FPIC guidelines for review 6930 07:59:31,100 --> 07:59:33,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng mga katutubo. We challenge 6931 07:59:33,100 --> 07:59:35,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: the agency to guarantee 6932 07:59:35,100 --> 07:59:37,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: improvements and widen 6933 07:59:37,100 --> 07:59:39,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: participation and genuine 6934 07:59:39,100 --> 07:59:41,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: consultation among civil societies 6935 07:59:41,100 --> 07:59:43,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: and IP communities this year. 6936 07:59:43,100 --> 07:59:45,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker. 6937 07:59:45,100 --> 07:59:47,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ako po ay lubos 6938 07:59:47,100 --> 07:59:49,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na nadidismaya. 6939 08:00:00,000 --> 08:00:09,920 Rep. Ryan S. Recto: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Jose Joboy S. Aquino II from the Lone District, City of Butuan. 6940 08:00:10,960 --> 08:00:16,960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Joboy Aquino from Butuan City is hereby recognized for his interpellation. 6941 08:00:18,140 --> 08:00:27,740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor, my colleagues here in Congress, good afternoon. 6942 08:00:27,740 --> 08:00:33,180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I would just like to make a manifestation, Madam Speaker. 6943 08:00:34,760 --> 08:00:44,740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This representation would like to make a manifestation concerning the proposed budget of the National Commission on Indigenous People, 6944 08:00:46,760 --> 08:00:56,040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: given their glaring apathy and complete inaction during actual conflicts on the ground. 6945 08:00:57,740 --> 08:01:18,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Mr. Speaker, this year in Butuan City, an 18-year Good Friday tradition, the Panaat Pilgrimage in Barangay Antikala, was intentionally disrupted by political theater. 6946 08:01:19,060 --> 08:01:27,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Local indigenous groups were manipulated amid a clan power struggle. 6947 08:01:27,740 --> 08:01:37,020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Dating back to 2020, weaponizing a sacred cultural observance for political gain. 6948 08:01:37,900 --> 08:01:56,160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Rather than arguing in the media, my office initiated an immediate dialogue with local tribal leadership, barangay officials, the Philippine National Police, the Philippine Army, and the Red Cross, 6949 08:01:56,160 --> 08:01:57,160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to have the... 6950 08:01:57,740 --> 08:02:00,740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to have the resolution officially retracted. 6951 08:02:01,340 --> 08:02:15,780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I must emphasize, Mr. Speaker, that this peaceful resolution was achieved completely without the intervention of the NCIP, 6952 08:02:15,780 --> 08:02:23,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: who simply stood by and did nothing while tensions escalated. 6953 08:02:25,800 --> 08:02:27,720 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: With this, I ask, does the... 6954 08:02:27,740 --> 08:02:38,320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Does the NCIP have a standard, funded protocol for facilitating immediate dialogue in these instances? 6955 08:02:39,220 --> 08:02:48,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Or does it leave the responsibility entirely to the legislative and local government unit? 6956 08:02:48,380 --> 08:02:48,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you. 6957 08:02:54,460 --> 08:02:57,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: We allocate millions. 6958 08:02:57,740 --> 08:03:04,500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: To the Ancestral Domains Program to protect IP territories. 6959 08:03:05,640 --> 08:03:19,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: But tensions frequently arise over the balance of ancestral claims with vested rights and public access to shared thoroughfares. 6960 08:03:19,620 --> 08:03:27,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Is there a dedicated budget allocation for a rapid response interagency 6961 08:03:27,740 --> 08:03:28,140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: mechanism? 6962 08:03:28,140 --> 08:03:41,060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So the NCIP does not simply stand by and do nothing when these disputes erupt. 6963 08:03:42,280 --> 08:03:49,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Therefore, Mr. Speaker, I leave it to this floor, to the agency concerned, 6964 08:03:49,380 --> 08:03:57,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: how they would understand and appreciate my sentiments on this issue. 6965 08:03:57,740 --> 08:04:21,700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sabi nga sa Bisaya, Madam Speaker, sa lugar namin, 'maulaw mo.' Sa mga Bisaya, naiintindihan ninyo 'yan. Kayo na mag-isip kung paano sa Tagalog 'yan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Mr. Sponsor. 6966 08:04:21,700 --> 08:04:24,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 6967 08:04:27,740 --> 08:04:43,940 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Jesus Jardine Romualdo of the Lone District of Camiguin. 6968 08:04:46,080 --> 08:04:53,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Jardine Jesus Romualdo of the Lone District of Camiguin is hereby recognized for his manifestation. 6969 08:04:56,440 --> 08:04:57,580 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 6970 08:04:57,740 --> 08:05:06,140 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: Madam Speaker, Your Honor, I have really so many questions, Madam Speaker, Your Honor. 6971 08:05:07,000 --> 08:05:22,120 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: However, when we're going to tackle my bill, in which I am the author to amend the indigenous people's charter, 6972 08:05:22,120 --> 08:05:27,720 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: I'm listening also to the speakers before me. 6973 08:05:27,740 --> 08:05:41,200 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: Madam Chair, but I will just make my manifestation that these questions I'm going to ask during when we tackle the bill. 6974 08:05:41,980 --> 08:05:46,200 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: However, thank you for the time, Madam Speaker, Your Honor. 6975 08:05:48,520 --> 08:05:55,340 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: I will just forego all the questions, interpolations for the NCIP. 6976 08:05:55,620 --> 08:05:57,460 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: However, Madam Speaker, 6977 08:05:57,740 --> 08:06:12,420 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: Madam Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor, at the proper time, I will propose to reduce the budget of the National Commission on Indigenous Peoples to 1,000, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor. 6978 08:06:12,600 --> 08:06:14,020 Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor. 6979 08:06:16,400 --> 08:06:18,160 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Romualdo. 6980 08:06:18,900 --> 08:06:19,500 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader? 6981 08:06:19,600 --> 08:06:24,580 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Sara Elago of the Gabriela Party. 6982 08:06:25,320 --> 08:06:27,580 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Elago is recognized. 6983 08:06:33,700 --> 08:06:35,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker. 6984 08:06:36,940 --> 08:06:42,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Unang-una, maari ba nating malaman kung ano ang tindig ng NCIP hinggil sa Pax Silica Initiative, 6985 08:06:43,660 --> 08:06:49,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na sa magiging epekto nito sa mga kalupaan at kabuhayan ng mga katutubo? 6986 08:06:57,740 --> 08:07:26,780 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: So, ngayon po, Madam Speaker, tayo ay nakikipag-coordinate pa po tayo sa BCDA. 6987 08:07:27,740 --> 08:07:37,640 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: At sa mga IPs. Kasi pa nga po, wala pa pong klaro na itong Pax Silica nito. 6988 08:07:38,920 --> 08:07:44,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ibig sabihin nito, Mr. Speaker, wala pa tayo ngayong datos kung anong mga lugar, 6989 08:07:44,940 --> 08:07:50,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gano'ng kalawak sa saklaw ng pagtatayuan ng Pax Silica ang may nakatirang mga katutubo? 6990 08:07:50,160 --> 08:07:57,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: O meron na po bang datos dito ang NCIP? Kung ilang mga pamilya, individual, ang apektado? 6991 08:07:57,880 --> 08:08:07,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At kung ano-ano din ang mga potensyal na environmental risk at epekto o banta sa pamumuhay ng mga katutubo? 6992 08:08:13,160 --> 08:08:22,160 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Madam Speaker, NCIP conducted a community dialogue on August 7, 2026, 6993 08:08:23,880 --> 08:08:27,160 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: relayed the community's concerns to BCDA. 6994 08:08:27,740 --> 08:08:31,640 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: And continues to coordinate with the community. 6995 08:08:32,840 --> 08:08:39,020 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Their application is currently under review by the Provincial Delineation Team. 6996 08:08:40,400 --> 08:08:48,640 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The AITA-Hanggi Community in Sitio Sapang, Hawayan, Barangay Aranguren, Kapas, Tarlac. 6997 08:08:50,700 --> 08:08:57,700 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The August 2026 census identified 6998 08:08:57,700 --> 08:09:01,900 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: 83 households with 950 individuals. 6999 08:09:04,740 --> 08:09:11,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, maari po ba tayong makahingi ng kopya ng ulat na ito ng inyong naisagawa na validation? 7000 08:09:11,860 --> 08:09:17,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sa nabanggit niyo ko na ginawang dialog sa community noong nakaraang buwan, 7001 08:09:18,420 --> 08:09:22,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ano-ano po yung mga nakalap ninyong mga hinahing mula sa AITA community? 7002 08:09:27,740 --> 08:09:37,180 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ano pa na? 7003 08:09:39,180 --> 08:09:40,120 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Nabimigay na. 7004 08:10:14,100 --> 08:10:16,480 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Sa ngayon po ay, Mr. Speaker, sila ay nangangamba sa kanilang katayuan. 7005 08:10:16,480 --> 08:10:27,680 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Kaya po, baka sila ay mapaalis at nagtatanong sila sa status ng kanilang 7006 08:10:27,740 --> 08:10:28,780 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ancestral domain. 7007 08:10:31,480 --> 08:10:44,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Napakahalaga na ang concern na ito ng mga katutubong AITA, Mr. Speaker, na naipaabot tungkol sa kanilang lupa, tungkol po sa issue ng displacement. 7008 08:10:45,620 --> 08:10:56,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon po, sinabi rin ng NCIP sa kanilang pahayag noong magkaroon po kayo ng dialogo nga sa TARLAC nitong August 8, 2026. 7009 08:10:56,420 --> 08:10:58,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: And I quote, 7010 08:10:58,280 --> 08:11:01,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi mababaliwala ang mga hinahing na ito. 7011 08:11:01,840 --> 08:11:12,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ipapaabot ito sa Basis Conversion and Development Authority, kasama ang kahilingan para sa sapat at malinaw na impormasyon tungkol sa Paxilica Project. 7012 08:11:12,820 --> 08:11:13,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: End of quote. 7013 08:11:13,800 --> 08:11:25,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mula po ba sa inyong pahayag na ito, meron na bang ginawang aksyon ang NCIP tungkol sa hinahing ng mga katutubo na paabot na sa BCDA? 7014 08:11:25,080 --> 08:11:25,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Okay. 7015 08:11:26,420 --> 08:11:35,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagpapaabot, meron na po ba kayong ginawang interventions para naman matugunan ang mga nilapit na hinahing sa atin? 7016 08:11:48,600 --> 08:12:04,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Nakipag-meeting po ang NCIP noong August 7, 2026 at September 3, 2026 sa Sitio Binyayan 7017 08:12:04,500 --> 08:12:10,600 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: upang ipaabot ang concerns ng komunidad. 7018 08:12:23,800 --> 08:12:33,600 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: At pinanindigan po ang kanilang karapatan sa BCDA. 7019 08:12:38,200 --> 08:12:41,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po bang asagot na dito ang BCDA? 7020 08:12:41,100 --> 08:12:45,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At mahalaga ito, Mr. Speaker, dahil isang ayon din po sa mga katutubo, 7021 08:12:45,600 --> 08:12:51,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi lamang buhay at kabuhayan nila ang nanganganib sa pagtatayo ng site ng Paxilica Initiative, 7022 08:12:52,000 --> 08:12:54,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kundi pati ang kanilang kultura at kasaysayan. 7023 08:12:54,780 --> 08:13:03,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kabilang na ang libingan ng kanilang mga ninuno o mga ancestral graves na maaaring makukay sa proseso ng konstruksyon. 7024 08:13:04,400 --> 08:13:09,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Anong masasabi dito ng NCIP at ano ang mga hakbang na balak gawin? 7025 08:13:09,480 --> 08:13:22,680 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ngayon po ay patuloy ang konsultasyon sa BCDA at sa mga IPs na apektado po itong project na ito. 7026 08:13:22,680 --> 08:13:33,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang mahalagang hakbang dito, Ginong Speaker, hindi lang matapos sa konsultasyon, 7027 08:13:33,660 --> 08:13:42,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero paano natin titiyakin na yung mga nakuha natin na mga issues, concerns, mga hinain mula sa ating mga katutubo, 7028 08:13:43,020 --> 08:13:51,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay matiyak natin na may agarang aksyon, matitiyak natin na maiimpluensyahan talaga nila kung ano man yung mga desisyon, 7029 08:13:51,660 --> 08:13:52,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may kinalaman. 7030 08:13:52,680 --> 08:13:54,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At may kinalaman dito sa Paxilica. 7031 08:13:54,980 --> 08:14:01,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasi po, hindi dapat tayo pumayag na na-konsulta, narinig lang natin yung kanilang mga issues at concerns, 7032 08:14:02,100 --> 08:14:09,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngunit hindi naman natin gagawin, natindigan kung ano ba yung kanilang posisyon sa issue na ito. 7033 08:14:10,900 --> 08:14:19,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, hiyaanin niyo po ako na magtanong din tungkol sa isang bagay na mahalaga dito sa issue ng konsultasyon, 7034 08:14:19,740 --> 08:14:22,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagkuha ng Free Prior Informed Consultation. 7035 08:14:22,680 --> 08:14:41,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At tungkol sa revised guidelines ng NCIP, ang Gabriela Women's Party ay tumitindig na hindi po kami pumapanig na mailabas ang revised guidelines na ito. 7036 08:14:41,680 --> 08:14:51,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na nabanggit din kanina ng ating mga kasamahan na nakita natin na may pag-fast track sa mga assemblies consultation. 7037 08:14:51,820 --> 08:14:59,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang pagpapabilis ng period ng consensus building na salungat sa tradisyon ng mga katutubo sa pagbubuo. 7038 08:15:00,000 --> 08:15:00,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng desisyon. 7039 08:15:02,080 --> 08:15:03,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ito po, sa amin pong 7040 08:15:03,980 --> 08:15:06,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: paninindigan at posisyon 7041 08:15:06,140 --> 08:15:07,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay magpapahina lamang sa 7042 08:15:07,840 --> 08:15:10,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: proteksyon sa mga katutubo 7043 08:15:10,000 --> 08:15:11,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at kanilang mga lupain. 7044 08:15:12,380 --> 08:15:13,560 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Mr. Speaker, 7045 08:15:14,580 --> 08:15:16,420 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ang ACIP po 7046 08:15:16,420 --> 08:15:17,980 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ay 7047 08:15:17,980 --> 08:15:21,700 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: committed po 7048 08:15:21,700 --> 08:15:22,600 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: natayuan 7049 08:15:22,600 --> 08:15:25,880 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ang rights ng ating mga IPs. 7050 08:15:25,880 --> 08:15:31,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, Mr. Speaker, narinig 7051 08:15:31,340 --> 08:15:33,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng NCIP na marami din pong 7052 08:15:33,660 --> 08:15:35,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga naipapaabot sa inyo na 7053 08:15:35,320 --> 08:15:37,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga concerns, 7054 08:15:37,200 --> 08:15:39,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagtutol, strong opposition 7055 08:15:39,440 --> 08:15:41,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito sa revised guidelines 7056 08:15:41,000 --> 08:15:42,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng FPIC. 7057 08:15:43,300 --> 08:15:45,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron bang balak gawin 7058 08:15:45,340 --> 08:15:47,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang NCIP tungkol dito? 7059 08:15:55,880 --> 08:16:05,340 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Mr. Speaker, 7060 08:16:07,340 --> 08:16:08,420 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: na-address na po 7061 08:16:08,420 --> 08:16:09,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ang bagay na yan 7062 08:16:09,300 --> 08:16:11,620 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: na ganoon po ng 7063 08:16:11,620 --> 08:16:13,020 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: mahabang konsultasyon. 7064 08:16:15,420 --> 08:16:17,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa posisyon 7065 08:16:17,660 --> 08:16:19,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng kinatawan na ito, 7066 08:16:20,660 --> 08:16:21,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, 7067 08:16:22,740 --> 08:16:23,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung hindi natin 7068 08:16:23,740 --> 08:16:25,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mababasura, kung hindi magagawa 7069 08:16:25,340 --> 08:16:27,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga dapat gawin 7070 08:16:27,700 --> 08:16:29,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para matiyak na 7071 08:16:29,060 --> 08:16:31,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mauuna ang interes ng mga katutubo, 7072 08:16:32,760 --> 08:16:33,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang kasalukuyan 7073 08:16:33,820 --> 08:16:35,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na revised guidelines 7074 08:16:35,740 --> 08:16:37,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng FPIC magsisilbi 7075 08:16:37,600 --> 08:16:39,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lamang sa mga malalaking kumpanya 7076 08:16:39,360 --> 08:16:41,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nais makinabang 7077 08:16:41,000 --> 08:16:42,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula sa mga lupang ninuno. 7078 08:16:43,980 --> 08:16:44,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi ito free, 7079 08:16:45,340 --> 08:16:47,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: prior, and informed consent 7080 08:16:47,260 --> 08:16:48,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: guidelines, kundi 7081 08:16:48,800 --> 08:16:50,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: fast-track, profit-driven, 7082 08:16:51,460 --> 08:16:52,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at ill-informed consent. 7083 08:16:53,300 --> 08:16:54,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa kabilang banda, 7084 08:16:54,740 --> 08:16:56,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nais ko lang pong linawin 7085 08:16:56,660 --> 08:16:57,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: for the record, 7086 08:16:58,740 --> 08:17:00,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang Paxilica, wala pa pong 7087 08:17:00,940 --> 08:17:02,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: FPIC, tama po ba? 7088 08:17:04,160 --> 08:17:05,240 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Wala pa, wala pa. 7089 08:17:07,060 --> 08:17:08,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: For the record, Mr. Speaker, 7090 08:17:09,780 --> 08:17:10,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang Paxilica, 7091 08:17:11,620 --> 08:17:12,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito po sa mga lugar 7092 08:17:12,620 --> 08:17:14,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nabanggit ng NCIP, 7093 08:17:15,820 --> 08:17:16,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: walang FPIC, 7094 08:17:17,780 --> 08:17:18,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: wala pang environmental 7095 08:17:18,680 --> 08:17:19,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: impact assessment, 7096 08:17:20,780 --> 08:17:22,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: walang environmental compliance certificate, 7097 08:17:22,820 --> 08:17:24,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: walang detailed feasibility, 7098 08:17:24,740 --> 08:17:27,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ito sa kasalukuyan 7099 08:17:27,380 --> 08:17:29,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang estado ng Paxilica. 7100 08:17:29,780 --> 08:17:32,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung kaya, patuloy na tumitindig 7101 08:17:32,240 --> 08:17:33,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang aming kinatawan 7102 08:17:33,720 --> 08:17:35,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para i-rehistro 7103 08:17:35,200 --> 08:17:36,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang pagtutol sa Paxilica 7104 08:17:37,360 --> 08:17:39,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil sa epekto nito 7105 08:17:39,060 --> 08:17:40,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa buhay, kabuhayan, 7106 08:17:41,260 --> 08:17:43,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kultura, sa karapatan ng mga katutubo, 7107 08:17:44,460 --> 08:17:45,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nandyan din ang epekto 7108 08:17:45,400 --> 08:17:47,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kalikasan, gayon din 7109 08:17:47,100 --> 08:17:48,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa lupang agrikultural 7110 08:17:48,340 --> 08:17:49,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito sa ating bansa. 7111 08:17:50,440 --> 08:17:52,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hinahamon natin ang NCIP 7112 08:17:52,180 --> 08:17:54,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na tunay na tumindig 7113 08:17:54,040 --> 08:17:54,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Paxilica. 7114 08:17:54,740 --> 08:17:56,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: panig sa interes 7115 08:17:56,100 --> 08:17:57,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga katutubo 7116 08:17:57,120 --> 08:17:59,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bilang pangunahing mandato 7117 08:17:59,280 --> 08:18:01,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng komisyon na ito. 7118 08:18:02,660 --> 08:18:03,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, 7119 08:18:03,780 --> 08:18:04,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, 7120 08:18:05,520 --> 08:18:07,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: committed po ang NCIP 7121 08:18:07,120 --> 08:18:09,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa issue ng 7122 08:18:09,160 --> 08:18:11,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mapanirang pagmimina 7123 08:18:11,120 --> 08:18:12,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at quarrying. 7124 08:18:13,980 --> 08:18:15,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Paano po inaaksyonan 7125 08:18:15,220 --> 08:18:16,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng NCIP 7126 08:18:16,140 --> 08:18:18,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga issues 7127 08:18:18,900 --> 08:18:20,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may kinalaman po sa mapanirang 7128 08:18:20,720 --> 08:18:21,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mining at quarrying? 7129 08:18:21,760 --> 08:18:23,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung nakikita po natin 7130 08:18:23,340 --> 08:18:23,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang malaki, 7131 08:18:23,940 --> 08:18:25,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang epekto nito 7132 08:18:25,260 --> 08:18:26,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mamamayang katutubo 7133 08:18:26,620 --> 08:18:28,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa kanilang mga lupang nino. 7134 08:18:31,560 --> 08:18:32,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po bang mekanismo, 7135 08:18:33,680 --> 08:18:33,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: polisiya, 7136 08:18:35,140 --> 08:18:35,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at proyekto 7137 08:18:35,980 --> 08:18:36,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating 7138 08:18:36,840 --> 08:18:39,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: komisyon? 7139 08:18:40,000 --> 08:18:42,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Alinsunod sa issue na ito? 7140 08:18:43,320 --> 08:18:44,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po ba kayo 7141 08:18:44,180 --> 08:18:45,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngayong datos 7142 08:18:45,980 --> 08:18:48,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung ilang IPs 7143 08:18:48,080 --> 08:18:49,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang affected ng 7144 08:18:49,880 --> 08:18:51,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mapanirang na pagmimina 7145 08:18:51,800 --> 08:18:53,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at quarrying projects? 7146 08:18:53,040 --> 08:18:53,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At kung 7147 08:18:53,940 --> 08:18:55,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makakapagbigay na kayo 7148 08:18:55,140 --> 08:18:56,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mas kongkretong datos 7149 08:18:56,620 --> 08:18:58,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa active mining 7150 08:18:58,000 --> 08:18:59,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and quarrying projects, 7151 08:18:59,820 --> 08:19:00,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas mainam? 7152 08:19:12,000 --> 08:19:13,400 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Mr. Speaker, 7153 08:19:14,600 --> 08:19:16,640 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: the agency's mandate 7154 08:19:16,640 --> 08:19:18,780 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: is to protect the rights 7155 08:19:18,780 --> 08:19:19,840 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: and interests 7156 08:19:19,840 --> 08:19:21,940 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: of ICC's 7157 08:19:21,940 --> 08:19:23,780 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: IPs whenever 7158 08:19:23,780 --> 08:19:24,360 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: a mining, 7159 08:19:25,260 --> 08:19:25,820 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: energy, 7160 08:19:26,820 --> 08:19:28,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: infrastructure, 7161 08:19:29,440 --> 08:19:31,740 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: or other projects may affect them 7162 08:19:31,740 --> 08:19:34,360 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: or their ancestral domains. 7163 08:19:35,400 --> 08:19:36,040 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: FPIC 7164 08:19:36,040 --> 08:19:37,940 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: is not a mechanism 7165 08:19:37,940 --> 08:19:40,360 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: to facilitate 7166 08:19:40,360 --> 08:19:42,180 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: the approval of a project. 7167 08:19:43,340 --> 08:19:44,620 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: It is a rights protection 7168 08:19:44,620 --> 08:19:46,880 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: mechanism that allows 7169 08:19:46,880 --> 08:19:48,180 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: the affected community 7170 08:19:48,180 --> 08:19:50,400 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: to make its own decision. 7171 08:19:52,660 --> 08:19:53,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, 7172 08:19:53,280 --> 08:19:57,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung maaari ho tayong makakuha ng datos mula sa NCIP, 7173 08:19:57,700 --> 08:20:01,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung ano ba yung mga active mining at quarrying projects, 7174 08:20:01,800 --> 08:20:04,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at kung ilan pong IPs yung affected 7175 08:20:04,500 --> 08:20:08,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga proyekto na ito na ma-submit sa ating kapulungan, 7176 08:20:08,300 --> 08:20:11,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating House Committee on Appropriations, 7177 08:20:11,300 --> 08:20:17,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating relevant committees para mapag-aralan natin 7178 08:20:17,200 --> 08:20:19,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung ano pa yung mga dapat gawin 7179 08:20:19,500 --> 08:20:20,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para mapunan yung gaps 7180 08:20:20,900 --> 08:20:23,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagdating sa pagtitiyak na yung kanilang boses, yung kanilang interes 7181 08:20:23,360 --> 08:20:27,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mauuna sa lahat ng mga proyekto na ito. 7182 08:20:27,720 --> 08:20:32,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Mr. Speaker, sa iba naman din pong mahalagang issue, 7183 08:20:33,160 --> 08:20:39,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itong February 2026, opisyal na napumirma ang Pilipinas sa Memorandum of Understanding 7184 08:20:39,620 --> 08:20:46,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on Critical Mineral Supply Chains, kung saan required ang mga bansa na mag-provide ng supply 7185 08:20:46,880 --> 08:20:54,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng raw and processed critical minerals sa isa't isa, sa pamamagitan ng mining, exploration, at marami pang iba. 7186 08:20:55,020 --> 08:21:02,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron na po bang pag-aaral ang NCIP kung paano po nito maapektuhan yung ating mga indigenous peoples? 7187 08:21:02,960 --> 08:21:07,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At meron na po ba kayong tindig o posisyon sa nasabing MOU? 7188 08:21:08,060 --> 08:21:14,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Yung po unang katanungan nyo, yung sa data, ibibigay po nila sa inyo. 7189 08:21:16,880 --> 08:21:17,460 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: within a week. 7190 08:21:38,620 --> 08:21:44,860 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ang FPIC po ay isang requirement. 7191 08:21:44,860 --> 08:21:46,860 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: sa mga 7192 08:21:46,880 --> 08:21:48,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: mining project. 7193 08:21:49,960 --> 08:21:53,060 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Doon po natin sila mamomonitor. 7194 08:21:54,900 --> 08:21:58,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ngayon wala pa po kayong pag-aaral tungkol dito? 7195 08:21:58,660 --> 08:21:58,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Wala pa po. 7196 08:21:58,960 --> 08:21:59,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Wala pa kayong posisyon? 7197 08:21:59,820 --> 08:22:00,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Wala pa po. 7198 08:22:01,100 --> 08:22:05,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pwede nyo bang pag-aaralan at magkaroon ng posisyon dito ang NCIP? 7199 08:22:05,840 --> 08:22:11,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasi po, katulad nung nabanggit natin kanina, sa kasalukuyan marami ng active mining projects 7200 08:22:11,920 --> 08:22:16,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at nababahala tayo dun sa effect nito sa ating mga indigenous peoples. 7201 08:22:16,880 --> 08:22:23,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, kung may ganitong bagong MOU na may kinalaman sa pagsusupply ng critical minerals, 7202 08:22:24,240 --> 08:22:27,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: raw at processed, dapat mapag-aaralan po natin. 7203 08:22:27,800 --> 08:22:32,580 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Pag-aaralan po ng NCIP para po ma-improve. 7204 08:22:32,760 --> 08:22:36,700 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Pero ang IPs po ang magdidesign. 7205 08:22:37,080 --> 08:22:37,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes. 7206 08:22:37,860 --> 08:22:40,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Opo, yan naman po ang nararapat. 7207 08:22:40,620 --> 08:22:46,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Matiyak natin kung ano mismo yung kanilang pagtingin, yung kanilang posisyon. 7208 08:22:46,880 --> 08:22:48,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dating po sa MOU na ito. 7209 08:22:48,720 --> 08:22:52,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya nga po, mahirap po na napirmahan na. 7210 08:22:52,700 --> 08:23:03,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero hindi po, kumbaga, narinig yung boses ng most affected peoples, areas, and communities na ating mga indigenous peoples. 7211 08:23:03,980 --> 08:23:16,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po, pagdating po sa pag-aaral na tungkol po sa situation ng pag-commit sa right to education. 7212 08:23:16,880 --> 08:23:20,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Quality and accessible education ng mga indigenous peoples. 7213 08:23:21,660 --> 08:23:33,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron na po ba kayong datos kung paano po matitiyak yung access sa education at all levels ng ating indigenous peoples? 7214 08:23:34,740 --> 08:23:39,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At paano po kayong nakikipagtulungan halimbawa sa DepEd? 7215 08:23:39,280 --> 08:23:42,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po silang last miles schools program. 7216 08:23:42,680 --> 08:23:46,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang CHED din po, may particular na programa. 7217 08:23:46,360 --> 08:23:53,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para sa paggamit ng higher education ng mga students na IPs. 7218 08:23:54,060 --> 08:24:10,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pwede po ba kayong magbahagi sa atin kung ano yung mga initiatives ng NCIP para mapunan ang education gap at masolusyonan ang inaccessibility pa rin ng learning at education sa ating bansa? 7219 08:24:16,360 --> 08:24:22,180 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Sa PAMANA po, 1,372 beneficiaries. 7220 08:24:30,900 --> 08:24:35,560 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Sa SAP, 2,080 po ang beneficiaries. 7221 08:24:37,040 --> 08:24:38,380 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Labing apat po yung project. 7222 08:24:40,000 --> 08:24:45,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, hingin po natin ang datos na yan, ang lahat ng mga detalye. 7223 08:24:45,120 --> 08:24:45,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Gayun din po. 7224 08:24:45,740 --> 08:24:59,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagdating sa trabaho, kabuhayan, pati na rin sa sektor ng agrikultura, mahalaga po yan kasi napapansin po natin sa maraming mga budget proposals at sa mga tinatalakay natin ngayong mga programa. 7225 08:24:59,620 --> 08:25:08,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lagi pong naiiwan yung pagtitiyak na ang mga servisyo ay abot kamay din sa ating mga indigenous peoples. 7226 08:25:08,920 --> 08:25:15,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, hingin po natin ang datos na yan at challenge, hindi lang po sa NCIP. 7227 08:25:15,740 --> 08:25:34,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kapulungan na ito, natitiyakin sa lahat po ng oras ay hindi lang po included, pero matiyak natin, hindi lang yung inclusivity, pero dapat meron ding priority sa lahat po ng mga nananatili, na underserved ng mga communities dito sa ating bansa. 7228 08:25:34,860 --> 08:25:38,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor. 7229 08:25:40,180 --> 08:25:42,780 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Ilago. Majority Leader. 7230 08:26:07,800 --> 08:26:14,000 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: I would like to suspend for a few minutes. 7231 08:26:14,000 --> 08:26:14,900 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session suspended. 7232 08:26:32,800 --> 08:26:36,400 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is resumed. Majority Leader. 7233 08:26:36,500 --> 08:26:44,600 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Antonio Tinio. 7234 08:26:45,740 --> 08:26:53,680 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: of the Partylist Act Teachers to interpelate on the proposed budget of the NCIP. 7235 08:26:54,220 --> 08:27:00,620 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Antonio Tino of Partylist Act Teachers is recognized. Please proceed. 7236 08:27:19,810 --> 08:27:23,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Um, 7237 08:27:25,900 --> 08:27:30,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, Mr. Speaker, tanong natin sa NCIP, ano po ang magiging involvement? 7238 08:27:30,620 --> 08:27:35,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Or kasalukuyang involvement ng NCIP sa Paxilica? 7239 08:27:53,900 --> 08:28:00,060 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ang ginagawa po natin ay coordination po sa mga IPs para po, 7240 08:28:00,620 --> 08:28:02,800 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: nilang social safeguards. 7241 08:28:03,840 --> 08:28:07,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Social safeguards. Ano pong ibig sabihin nun? 7242 08:28:08,180 --> 08:28:12,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, ilinaw po natin bakit natin natanong ang Paxilica? 7243 08:28:12,400 --> 08:28:17,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil alam natin isang mahalagang component, malaking component ng Paxilica, 7244 08:28:17,700 --> 08:28:23,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayon na rin sa paliwanag ng gobyerno, ay yung critical minerals. 7245 08:28:24,680 --> 08:28:29,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, merong aspeto ng advanced manufacturing, sabi nila, 7246 08:28:30,620 --> 08:28:33,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga semiconductors, AI-related, 7247 08:28:34,880 --> 08:28:39,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero isang component din yung critical mineral supply chain. 7248 08:28:40,740 --> 08:28:47,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At alam natin, ang ibig sabihin yan sa konteksto ng Pilipinas ay mining. 7249 08:28:48,380 --> 08:28:48,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 7250 08:28:50,120 --> 08:28:52,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At alam naman natin, pag sinabing mining, 7251 08:28:52,260 --> 08:28:54,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay kadalasan, 7252 08:28:55,340 --> 08:28:59,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: masasaklaw o mahahagi po nito, 7253 08:28:59,480 --> 08:29:01,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga lupang ninuno. 7254 08:29:02,040 --> 08:29:02,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po ba? 7255 08:29:03,260 --> 08:29:09,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya ang sinasabi nyo, ang papel ng NCIP ay pagtiyak ng, 7256 08:29:09,660 --> 08:29:10,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano yung sabi nyo kanina? 7257 08:29:12,500 --> 08:29:13,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po yung term na ginamit nyo? 7258 08:29:16,900 --> 08:29:18,280 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Social safeguards po. 7259 08:29:18,660 --> 08:29:20,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Social safeguards. 7260 08:29:21,040 --> 08:29:22,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, tama po bang intindi ko? 7261 08:29:22,820 --> 08:29:27,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig sabihin, kung yung lupain nila, lupang ninuno, 7262 08:29:27,100 --> 08:29:33,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay yan ang magiging target ng pagbimina NCIP. 7263 08:29:33,520 --> 08:29:38,400 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Tutubo po ang magdi-desisyon kung papayagan o hindi ang proyekto. 7264 08:29:39,120 --> 08:29:39,920 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Okay. 7265 08:29:40,120 --> 08:29:45,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya nga po, napakahalaga nung free prior informed consent. 7266 08:29:46,280 --> 08:29:46,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po? 7267 08:29:47,240 --> 08:29:47,580 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Tama po. 7268 08:29:48,000 --> 08:29:49,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At kung hindi pumayag, 7269 08:29:51,320 --> 08:29:51,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi tuloy. 7270 08:29:52,520 --> 08:29:53,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 7271 08:29:53,100 --> 08:29:54,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil legal requirement, 7272 08:29:55,520 --> 08:29:56,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung FPIC, 7273 08:29:56,540 --> 08:29:57,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tama po? 7274 08:29:57,840 --> 08:29:58,380 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Okay. 7275 08:30:00,000 --> 08:30:13,640 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po tatalikura ng NCIP ang mandato sa pagpapatupad ng FPIC kung ang proyekto ay nasa loob po ng lupaing ninuno. 7276 08:30:14,600 --> 08:30:17,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi pa payag. Paano po? Pakiulit po. 7277 08:30:18,920 --> 08:30:26,540 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po tatalikura ng NCIP ang mandato sa pagpapatupad ng FPIC 7278 08:30:26,540 --> 08:30:31,720 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: kung ang proyekto po ay nasa loob ng lupaing ninuno. 7279 08:30:32,060 --> 08:30:33,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Thank you for that. 7280 08:30:33,620 --> 08:30:48,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Nung February 4 po, 2026, ay nilagdaan ng gobyerno ng Pilipinas, 7281 08:30:49,120 --> 08:30:54,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particular ng DNR at saka ng United States, 7282 08:30:54,620 --> 08:31:01,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: represented by the Undersecretary of State, Jacob Helberg. 7283 08:31:03,440 --> 08:31:13,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sa Pilipinas naman, ay dating nung panahon yun, siya pa yung Secretary of Environment and Natural Resources, 7284 08:31:14,340 --> 08:31:16,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si Rafael Perpetuo Lutila. 7285 08:31:16,620 --> 08:31:17,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Si Rafael Perpetuo Lutila. 7286 08:31:17,840 --> 08:31:23,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tinirmahan po nila yung Philippines-US Memorandum of Understanding 7287 08:31:23,620 --> 08:31:25,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on Critical Minerals. 7288 08:31:26,520 --> 08:31:27,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba yun? 7289 08:31:33,740 --> 08:31:35,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Tama po. Pinirmahan po. 7290 08:31:36,240 --> 08:31:37,160 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Tama po. Okay. 7291 08:31:38,160 --> 08:31:48,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, kasama po sa mga probisyon nung understanding yung number three regarding permitting, 7292 08:31:48,020 --> 08:31:52,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the participants are taking measures to accelerate, 7293 08:31:52,740 --> 08:31:53,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: streamline, 7294 08:31:53,620 --> 08:31:59,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or deregulate permitting timelines and processes, 7295 08:32:00,340 --> 08:32:07,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including obtaining permits for critical minerals and rare earth mining, 7296 08:32:08,220 --> 08:32:15,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: separation and processing within their respective domestic regulatory systems consistent with applicable law. 7297 08:32:16,400 --> 08:32:21,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi isa yun sa mga probisyon nung Memorandum of Understanding. 7298 08:32:21,780 --> 08:32:23,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So yung pagpapabilis daw po, 7299 08:32:23,620 --> 08:32:25,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng permitting, 7300 08:32:25,700 --> 08:32:26,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagkuhan ng permit, 7301 08:32:27,340 --> 08:32:28,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para nga matuloy yung mine. 7302 08:32:28,580 --> 08:32:30,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasama po ba sa prosesong ito, 7303 08:32:31,860 --> 08:32:35,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung pag-obtain ng FPIC? 7304 08:32:37,700 --> 08:32:38,520 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po. 7305 08:32:39,080 --> 08:32:39,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po? 7306 08:32:39,700 --> 08:32:40,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po. 7307 08:32:40,920 --> 08:32:45,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So baka kakuha ka ng permit kahit walang FPIC, ganun po ba? 7308 08:32:48,000 --> 08:32:49,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Walang consent? 7309 08:32:50,240 --> 08:32:51,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Walang katibayan ng consent? 7310 08:32:51,740 --> 08:32:52,520 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po. 7311 08:32:52,640 --> 08:32:52,980 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po. 7312 08:32:53,620 --> 08:32:54,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi. 7313 08:32:54,820 --> 08:32:55,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi makakakuha. 7314 08:32:55,900 --> 08:32:56,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po. 7315 08:32:56,400 --> 08:32:58,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi nga po. 7316 08:32:58,980 --> 08:32:59,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So no permit. 7317 08:33:00,680 --> 08:33:02,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No consent, no permit. 7318 08:33:02,840 --> 08:33:03,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. 7319 08:33:04,380 --> 08:33:05,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So kasama sa proseso. 7320 08:33:06,300 --> 08:33:12,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasama sa proseso ng permitting na tinatawag sa section 3 na ito, 7321 08:33:13,780 --> 08:33:20,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung permitting timelines and processes. 7322 08:33:20,700 --> 08:33:21,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 7323 08:33:22,280 --> 08:33:23,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Obtaining permits. 7324 08:33:23,620 --> 08:33:26,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For critical minerals and rare earth mining. 7325 08:33:26,720 --> 08:33:27,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So kasama po yan. 7326 08:33:28,540 --> 08:33:29,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa mga kailangan. 7327 08:33:30,480 --> 08:33:31,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sino mang gusto magmina, 7328 08:33:32,600 --> 08:33:34,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maraming dadaanan. 7329 08:33:34,320 --> 08:33:35,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron sa DNR, alam natin yan. 7330 08:33:36,700 --> 08:33:38,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa LGU, kailangan mo. 7331 08:33:38,340 --> 08:33:42,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero kailangan din sa indigenous communities 7332 08:33:42,520 --> 08:33:45,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: through the FPIC. 7333 08:33:45,440 --> 08:33:45,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 7334 08:33:47,680 --> 08:33:50,940 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Kung nasa loob po ng ancestral domain, 7335 08:33:52,500 --> 08:33:53,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ay kailangan. 7336 08:33:53,620 --> 08:33:57,740 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: At hindi po maaaring isakripisyo ng ang FPIC 7337 08:33:57,740 --> 08:34:00,400 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: bilang substantive rights 7338 08:34:00,400 --> 08:34:04,620 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: na makatutubo para sa pagpapabilis ng permit. 7339 08:34:04,940 --> 08:34:05,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7340 08:34:05,980 --> 08:34:07,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So ito po nilagdaan noong Pebrero. 7341 08:34:08,520 --> 08:34:13,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: February 4, 2026. 7342 08:34:13,780 --> 08:34:16,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Signed in Washington, February 4, 2026. 7343 08:34:17,840 --> 08:34:22,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At kasama nga po yung binasa kong provision 7344 08:34:22,160 --> 08:34:23,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on permit. 7345 08:34:23,460 --> 08:34:23,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So ito po nilagdaan noong February 4, 2026. 7346 08:34:23,600 --> 08:34:25,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Permitting the participants, 7347 08:34:25,820 --> 08:34:27,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meaning the Philippine government, 7348 08:34:28,140 --> 08:34:30,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: are taking measures to accelerate, 7349 08:34:30,560 --> 08:34:31,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: streamline, 7350 08:34:31,720 --> 08:34:34,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or deregulate permitting timelines and processes. 7351 08:34:34,980 --> 08:34:35,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7352 08:34:35,680 --> 08:34:37,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, naging kontrobersyal po 7353 08:34:37,820 --> 08:34:42,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na nag-issue kayo ng revised guidelines 7354 08:34:42,060 --> 08:34:44,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on FPIC. 7355 08:34:44,860 --> 08:34:45,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 7356 08:34:53,600 --> 08:35:04,720 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: So yung po'ng 2026 FPIC guidelines, 7357 08:35:04,940 --> 08:35:09,460 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: it went through along an extensive process 7358 08:35:09,460 --> 08:35:11,780 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: of review and consultation. 7359 08:35:13,160 --> 08:35:16,140 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The review started as early as 2016. 7360 08:35:17,380 --> 08:35:19,220 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Based on our records, 7361 08:35:20,220 --> 08:35:22,600 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: there were 32 documented 7362 08:35:23,300 --> 08:35:29,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: consultation and engagement activities, 7363 08:35:29,500 --> 08:35:34,700 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: including 20 Commission en banc review and deliberation sessions, 7364 08:35:34,700 --> 08:35:37,800 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: and major stakeholder consultations 7365 08:35:37,800 --> 08:35:41,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: in Mindanao, Luzon and Visayas. 7366 08:35:41,300 --> 08:35:44,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po ito minadali. 7367 08:35:44,300 --> 08:35:47,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, I am aware of that, Mr. Speaker. 7368 08:35:47,400 --> 08:35:49,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ginoong sponsor, dahil sine-search ko po sa internet 7369 08:35:49,500 --> 08:35:51,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at may mga nakita nga tayong mga dokumento, 7370 08:35:51,700 --> 08:35:53,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa internet. 7371 08:35:53,280 --> 08:35:55,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na nga tayong mga dokumento, ng mga draft 7372 08:35:55,540 --> 08:35:56,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: revisions, 7373 08:35:57,320 --> 08:35:59,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dating, ah yung nakita ko, 7374 08:35:59,320 --> 08:36:01,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isa, dating from, I think it was 2024. 7375 08:36:02,000 --> 08:36:03,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, I am 7376 08:36:03,500 --> 08:36:05,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: aware na may 7377 08:36:05,320 --> 08:36:06,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: prosesong tinagdaanan nito. 7378 08:36:08,200 --> 08:36:09,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang isang comment ko, 7379 08:36:10,000 --> 08:36:11,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pumunta ko sa inyong website, 7380 08:36:11,560 --> 08:36:12,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa website ng 7381 08:36:12,280 --> 08:36:15,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NCIP, tila wala 7382 08:36:15,480 --> 08:36:17,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: po doon, yung 7383 08:36:17,400 --> 08:36:19,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: revised guidelines. 7384 08:36:20,000 --> 08:36:21,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit po ganun? Parang hindi updated 7385 08:36:21,680 --> 08:36:23,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung website nyo 7386 08:36:23,340 --> 08:36:27,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with the latest issuances. 7387 08:36:29,020 --> 08:36:31,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Can you confirm na hindi available 7388 08:36:31,160 --> 08:36:33,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa website? 7389 08:36:33,840 --> 08:36:35,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung napakahalagang 7390 08:36:35,200 --> 08:36:36,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: guidelines na ito na sabi nyo, 7391 08:36:37,020 --> 08:36:37,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kayo na rin nagsabi, 7392 08:36:39,360 --> 08:36:40,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2016, 7393 08:36:41,180 --> 08:36:42,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2016 pa ba nagsimula? 7394 08:36:43,680 --> 08:36:44,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung proseso? 7395 08:36:44,100 --> 08:36:45,880 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi pa po kasi ito published. 7396 08:36:46,420 --> 08:36:47,820 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Kaya hindi pa po effective. 7397 08:36:48,820 --> 08:36:49,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, hindi pa published. 7398 08:36:50,560 --> 08:36:51,120 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Okay. 7399 08:36:51,680 --> 08:36:52,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero tapos na. 7400 08:36:53,860 --> 08:36:55,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos na yung proseso. 7401 08:36:55,940 --> 08:36:57,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Publication na lang. Ganun po ba? 7402 08:36:58,060 --> 08:37:00,060 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: A-approve na lang po ng commission and bank. 7403 08:37:00,360 --> 08:37:01,820 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: A-approve na ng commission and bank. 7404 08:37:02,040 --> 08:37:03,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: A-approve na ng commission 7405 08:37:03,840 --> 08:37:05,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and bank, pero 7406 08:37:05,260 --> 08:37:07,360 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: hindi pa lang pinapublish. 7407 08:37:08,140 --> 08:37:09,900 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Okay. Kailan po in-approve 7408 08:37:09,900 --> 08:37:11,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng commission and bank? 7409 08:37:14,480 --> 08:37:15,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kailan po? May 1. 7410 08:37:16,240 --> 08:37:16,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May 1. 7411 08:37:16,940 --> 08:37:18,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May 1. June, July, 7412 08:37:19,340 --> 08:37:21,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: August, September. 7413 08:37:21,680 --> 08:37:23,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 4 buwan na po 7414 08:37:23,800 --> 08:37:25,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi nyo pa pinapublish. 7415 08:37:26,840 --> 08:37:28,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anong explanation po nun? 7416 08:37:28,600 --> 08:37:29,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun ba talaga katagal 7417 08:37:29,780 --> 08:37:33,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang N-C-I-P 7418 08:37:33,400 --> 08:37:34,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: between 7419 08:37:34,240 --> 08:37:35,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and bank decision 7420 08:37:35,460 --> 08:37:38,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and publication para maging effective? 7421 08:37:38,420 --> 08:37:40,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 4 buwan bago mapublish? 7422 08:37:40,540 --> 08:37:41,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po ba? 7423 08:37:41,020 --> 08:37:43,960 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Isang dahilan po, ay in-incorporate pa 7424 08:37:43,960 --> 08:37:44,860 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ang mga comment. 7425 08:37:46,120 --> 08:37:48,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In-approve na, 7426 08:37:48,680 --> 08:37:50,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paano yan? In-approve na 7427 08:37:50,180 --> 08:37:51,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng N-Bank, 7428 08:37:51,680 --> 08:37:52,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero may 7429 08:37:52,440 --> 08:37:54,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in-incorporate pa 7430 08:37:54,820 --> 08:37:56,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na comments. 7431 08:37:57,200 --> 08:37:59,420 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Kasi po, pinahold ng committee 7432 08:37:59,420 --> 08:38:01,180 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: yung publication 7433 08:38:01,180 --> 08:38:03,580 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: para i-incorporate 7434 08:38:03,580 --> 08:38:04,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: yung mga comment. 7435 08:38:04,980 --> 08:38:08,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinahold po nino? 7436 08:38:09,680 --> 08:38:11,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Abay, N-Bank yan. Sino nagpa-hold sa N-Bank? 7437 08:38:13,840 --> 08:38:15,840 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Pinahold po ng committee on 7438 08:38:15,840 --> 08:38:17,780 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: IPs 7439 08:38:17,780 --> 08:38:19,240 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: at parang 7440 08:38:19,240 --> 08:38:20,260 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: You mean Congress? 7441 08:38:20,260 --> 08:38:22,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Congressional Committee. 7442 08:38:24,260 --> 08:38:25,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Aling committee po? 7443 08:38:25,320 --> 08:38:26,400 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Dito po, dito po sa atin. 7444 08:38:26,720 --> 08:38:27,000 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Sorry? 7445 08:38:27,480 --> 08:38:29,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dito po, pinahold. 7446 08:38:30,580 --> 08:38:30,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7447 08:38:31,840 --> 08:38:34,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, of course, ultimately, hindi naman po pwedeng 7448 08:38:34,500 --> 08:38:38,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala na, hindi naman 7449 08:38:38,100 --> 08:38:40,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maaaring mag-utos 7450 08:38:40,380 --> 08:38:42,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Kongreso sa 7451 08:38:42,020 --> 08:38:43,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: komisyon, diba? So siguro, 7452 08:38:44,340 --> 08:38:45,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagpahayag 7453 08:38:45,640 --> 08:38:48,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na may mga concerns. 7454 08:38:48,460 --> 08:38:49,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, mukhang 7455 08:38:50,260 --> 08:38:52,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bisisyon ng komisyon 7456 08:38:52,460 --> 08:38:55,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na i-hold muna 7457 08:38:55,180 --> 08:38:56,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang publication. 7458 08:38:56,980 --> 08:38:57,900 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Tama po, tama po. 7459 08:38:57,900 --> 08:38:59,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Pero 7460 08:38:59,380 --> 08:39:01,220 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: For refinement. 7461 08:39:01,900 --> 08:39:03,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For refinement. Okay. 7462 08:39:03,960 --> 08:39:06,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in other words, parang in-approve na N-Bank 7463 08:39:06,100 --> 08:39:07,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero mukhang magkakaroon pa ng 7464 08:39:07,820 --> 08:39:09,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: refinement, sabi nyo. 7465 08:39:10,380 --> 08:39:10,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7466 08:39:12,180 --> 08:39:13,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, nilabas po ito nung Mayo. 7467 08:39:14,380 --> 08:39:16,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. Nilabas nung 7468 08:39:16,020 --> 08:39:17,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mayo, yung N-Bank disisyon. 7469 08:39:18,260 --> 08:39:19,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anong exact date po? May... 7470 08:39:20,260 --> 08:39:21,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May 1. May 1, 7471 08:39:22,660 --> 08:39:24,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026, an N-Bank 7472 08:39:24,220 --> 08:39:26,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: disisyon, pero may mga habol. So, 7473 08:39:26,260 --> 08:39:28,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: four months later ay hindi pa rin 7474 08:39:28,440 --> 08:39:30,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: published 7475 08:39:30,160 --> 08:39:31,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and therefore, hindi pa rin effective. 7476 08:39:32,580 --> 08:39:34,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. However, the most 7477 08:39:34,100 --> 08:39:34,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: controversial 7478 08:39:34,740 --> 08:39:38,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: element 7479 08:39:38,120 --> 08:39:39,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or component 7480 08:39:39,860 --> 08:39:42,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung disisyon na hindi pa 7481 08:39:42,100 --> 08:39:43,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: published ay 7482 08:39:43,780 --> 08:39:46,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinaiksi to 30 days. 7483 08:39:46,240 --> 08:39:46,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 7484 08:39:47,940 --> 08:39:49,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung buong proseso... 7485 08:39:49,140 --> 08:39:49,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po. 7486 08:39:50,260 --> 08:39:51,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: To obtain 7487 08:39:51,980 --> 08:39:55,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung 7488 08:39:55,020 --> 08:39:57,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pre-prior informed consent. 7489 08:39:58,680 --> 08:39:59,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Please clarify. 7490 08:40:18,320 --> 08:40:20,140 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Yung dalawang buwan po nang... 7491 08:40:20,260 --> 08:40:22,120 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ang 2012 guidelines 7492 08:40:22,120 --> 08:40:23,920 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ay naging 7493 08:40:23,920 --> 08:40:25,540 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: 60 working days na. 7494 08:40:26,540 --> 08:40:27,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Mas bahaba 7495 08:40:27,300 --> 08:40:30,560 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: sa 2026 guidelines. 7496 08:40:30,940 --> 08:40:31,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Naging 7497 08:40:31,800 --> 08:40:32,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 60 days. 7498 08:40:33,960 --> 08:40:35,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 60 working days. 7499 08:40:35,460 --> 08:40:36,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 60 working days. 7500 08:40:37,800 --> 08:40:38,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, 7501 08:40:40,160 --> 08:40:40,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: walang however? 7502 08:40:43,180 --> 08:40:43,420 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Wala. 7503 08:40:43,420 --> 08:40:44,660 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Wala po. 7504 08:40:46,080 --> 08:40:47,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang absolute... Tama po ba? 7505 08:40:47,880 --> 08:40:50,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Absolute deadline. Yung 60 days. 7506 08:40:50,260 --> 08:40:53,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi po, may itong mekanisim 7507 08:40:53,260 --> 08:40:55,660 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: para sa extension of time. 7508 08:40:56,460 --> 08:40:57,860 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Kung sa mga ayon 7509 08:40:57,860 --> 08:41:00,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ang komunidad at aplikante. 7510 08:41:00,620 --> 08:41:02,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Kasi po, sa mga 7511 08:41:02,080 --> 08:41:04,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reports na lumabas, unfortunately, 7512 08:41:05,020 --> 08:41:06,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi nyo pinablish. Kaya 7513 08:41:06,200 --> 08:41:08,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagre-rely po tayo mainly sa 7514 08:41:08,140 --> 08:41:10,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reports. Sinasabi po 7515 08:41:10,600 --> 08:41:12,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay kaya nga may mga 7516 08:41:12,280 --> 08:41:14,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagpo-protesta ay parang 7517 08:41:14,520 --> 08:41:16,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinaiksi. Kinumpress yung 7518 08:41:16,660 --> 08:41:18,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: timeline 7519 08:41:18,420 --> 08:41:19,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung proseso. 7520 08:41:19,380 --> 08:41:21,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang sinasabi nyo po, hindi 7521 08:41:21,340 --> 08:41:23,560 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po, hindi po. 7522 08:41:23,860 --> 08:41:25,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi ganon. Naging 60 7523 08:41:25,320 --> 08:41:27,440 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po, totoo yun. 7524 08:41:27,800 --> 08:41:29,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya nga, mula... Ang sinasabi 7525 08:41:29,600 --> 08:41:31,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nyo mula 30 days, naging 60 days. 7526 08:41:31,460 --> 08:41:31,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon po ba? 7527 08:41:33,480 --> 08:41:34,200 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Opo, opo, opo. 7528 08:41:34,200 --> 08:41:35,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. Okay. 7529 08:41:39,040 --> 08:41:41,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Well, kaya nga po, 7530 08:41:41,180 --> 08:41:42,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang concern natin 7531 08:41:42,760 --> 08:41:43,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay 7532 08:41:43,940 --> 08:41:47,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may commitment 7533 08:41:47,500 --> 08:41:49,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng gobyerno na 7534 08:41:49,300 --> 08:41:50,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pabilisin 7535 08:41:50,060 --> 08:41:52,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang proseso ng permitting. 7536 08:41:53,600 --> 08:41:55,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang concern natin ay baka 7537 08:41:55,340 --> 08:41:57,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eto na nga yung 7538 08:41:57,240 --> 08:41:58,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ginagawa ngayon 7539 08:41:58,860 --> 08:42:01,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng NCIP. 7540 08:42:02,380 --> 08:42:03,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang commitment 7541 08:42:03,780 --> 08:42:05,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Marcos 7542 08:42:05,460 --> 08:42:06,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Junior Administration, 7543 08:42:07,480 --> 08:42:09,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yes, okay kami sa Paxilica, 7544 08:42:10,200 --> 08:42:11,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yes, okay kami sa 7545 08:42:11,540 --> 08:42:13,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: critical minerals 7546 08:42:13,360 --> 08:42:15,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mining. Ang hinihingi 7547 08:42:15,640 --> 08:42:16,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga Amerikano 7548 08:42:16,660 --> 08:42:18,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para mag-invest sila, 7549 08:42:19,300 --> 08:42:20,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa critical minerals, 7550 08:42:20,940 --> 08:42:23,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay pabilisin nyo naman yung permitting nyo. 7551 08:42:24,080 --> 08:42:25,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? And therefore, 7552 08:42:25,820 --> 08:42:26,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama na doon, 7553 08:42:27,380 --> 08:42:29,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi lang yung tumatagal 7554 08:42:29,240 --> 08:42:31,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa DNR, tumatagal sa 7555 08:42:31,240 --> 08:42:33,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: LGU, kasama rin po yung 7556 08:42:33,640 --> 08:42:34,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa 7557 08:42:34,660 --> 08:42:37,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: indigenous communities. 7558 08:42:38,600 --> 08:42:39,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? Kaya po, 7559 08:42:40,360 --> 08:42:41,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kinatanong natin, 7560 08:42:41,780 --> 08:42:43,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: baka naman ang mangyari, yung 7561 08:42:43,400 --> 08:42:44,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: revision nyo 7562 08:42:44,980 --> 08:42:46,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay 7563 08:42:46,180 --> 08:42:48,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kukumporme. 7564 08:42:49,300 --> 08:42:49,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa 7565 08:42:49,920 --> 08:42:51,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: commitment 7566 08:42:51,640 --> 08:42:55,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito sa Paxilica. 7567 08:42:56,880 --> 08:42:58,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Yung pong certificate of 7568 08:42:58,300 --> 08:43:01,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: precondition, it is not a permit. 7569 08:43:02,440 --> 08:43:02,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7570 08:43:05,280 --> 08:43:07,320 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: It is a validation 7571 08:43:07,320 --> 08:43:09,060 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: of ICC's 7572 08:43:09,060 --> 08:43:10,580 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: consent. Okay. 7573 08:43:11,020 --> 08:43:13,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, we understand it's not a permit. 7574 08:43:13,020 --> 08:43:15,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, hindi directly tinutukoy. Pero para 7575 08:43:15,120 --> 08:43:16,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: makakuha ng permit, 7576 08:43:16,820 --> 08:43:19,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: rekisito po yung, yan, hindi po ba? 7577 08:43:19,300 --> 08:43:21,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Tama po. 7578 08:43:21,300 --> 08:43:23,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama. At pag wala, pag hindi nakuha yan, 7579 08:43:24,520 --> 08:43:25,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no permit will be 7580 08:43:25,420 --> 08:43:26,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: issued. Correct? 7581 08:43:27,180 --> 08:43:28,060 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Correct po. Tama po. 7582 08:43:28,080 --> 08:43:31,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, hopefully, nakakaintindihan na tayo. 7583 08:43:31,740 --> 08:43:32,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Naintindihan naman natin, 7584 08:43:33,480 --> 08:43:33,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi 7585 08:43:33,740 --> 08:43:37,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NCIP 7586 08:43:37,460 --> 08:43:38,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang nag-i-issue ng permit. 7587 08:43:39,360 --> 08:43:41,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, para makakuha ng 7588 08:43:41,340 --> 08:43:43,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: permit, kailangan yung 7589 08:43:43,600 --> 08:43:45,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proof na may 7590 08:43:45,420 --> 08:43:46,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: consent yung community. 7591 08:43:47,220 --> 08:43:48,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? Tama po. 7592 08:43:48,280 --> 08:43:49,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, yun. 7593 08:43:49,300 --> 08:43:51,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakakaintindihan naman tayo. So, therefore, 7594 08:43:52,800 --> 08:43:53,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung 7595 08:43:53,120 --> 08:43:55,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: commitment ng gobyerno sa mga 7596 08:43:55,400 --> 08:43:57,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Amerikano, pabibilisin namin 7597 08:43:57,260 --> 08:43:58,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang permitting 7598 08:43:58,800 --> 08:44:01,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para mas mainganyo 7599 08:44:01,680 --> 08:44:03,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga US 7600 08:44:03,440 --> 08:44:05,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: investors into the 7601 08:44:05,300 --> 08:44:07,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: critical mineral sector, yung 7602 08:44:07,280 --> 08:44:09,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tinatawag nilang critical mineral sector, 7603 08:44:10,540 --> 08:44:11,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inevitably, 7604 08:44:12,760 --> 08:44:13,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mahahagi po 7605 08:44:13,520 --> 08:44:15,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang gawain 7606 08:44:15,780 --> 08:44:16,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng NCIP. 7607 08:44:17,260 --> 08:44:18,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun lang po sinasabi natin. 7608 08:44:19,300 --> 08:44:19,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di po ba? 7609 08:44:25,300 --> 08:44:26,800 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po natin 7610 08:44:26,800 --> 08:44:28,160 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: isasakripisyo 7611 08:44:28,160 --> 08:44:30,260 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: yung substantive rights 7612 08:44:30,260 --> 08:44:31,700 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ng mga IPs. 7613 08:44:32,120 --> 08:44:34,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Well, at least, that's on the record 7614 08:44:34,720 --> 08:44:36,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na hindi isasakripisyo. 7615 08:44:36,880 --> 08:44:37,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Ngayon, 7616 08:44:38,240 --> 08:44:39,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kongkreto na po. Di yung 7617 08:44:39,940 --> 08:44:42,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paxilica, nababanggit na 7618 08:44:42,040 --> 08:44:44,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mukhang ang unang-unang proyekto 7619 08:44:44,100 --> 08:44:46,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nito na kongkreto ay yung 7620 08:44:46,260 --> 08:44:47,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa New Clark City. Di po ba? 7621 08:44:48,960 --> 08:44:49,270 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 7622 08:44:49,300 --> 08:44:51,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At may more or less 7623 08:44:51,620 --> 08:44:53,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1,600 hectares na 7624 08:44:53,860 --> 08:44:54,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: identified na 7625 08:44:54,980 --> 08:44:56,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa 7626 08:44:56,480 --> 08:44:59,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mainly sa Kapas, Tarlac. 7627 08:45:00,000 --> 08:45:27,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sabi ng BCDA, at ng New Clark City, wala raw pong maapektuhang indigenous communities sa area na tinatarget ng Paxilica project na ito. 7628 08:45:27,160 --> 08:45:29,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At totoo po ba yun? 7629 08:45:30,000 --> 08:45:37,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sumasang-ayon po ba ang NCIP sa ganong pahayag ng BCDA? 7630 08:45:38,200 --> 08:45:39,400 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Meron po, meron maapektuhan. 7631 08:45:40,140 --> 08:45:41,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Merong maapektuhan? 7632 08:45:45,320 --> 08:45:53,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gano'ng karami pong IPs ang maapektuhan? At sino-sino sila? Anong mga grupo po ito? 7633 08:45:53,280 --> 08:45:58,280 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: 83 households with 950 individuals. 7634 08:46:00,000 --> 08:46:02,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 83 households with? 7635 08:46:03,380 --> 08:46:06,580 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: 900, 950 individuals. 7636 08:46:06,920 --> 08:46:08,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 950 individuals. 7637 08:46:09,300 --> 08:46:11,440 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Sa sityo, sa pangkawayan. 7638 08:46:11,640 --> 08:46:11,940 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Yun. 7639 08:46:12,440 --> 08:46:14,720 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Barangay Aranguren, Kapas Tarlac. 7640 08:46:14,720 --> 08:46:15,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7641 08:46:18,940 --> 08:46:26,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pong, dumaan po ba sa proseso ng pag-obtain ng free prior informed consent? 7642 08:46:27,280 --> 08:46:29,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang mga IPs na ito, IP communities? 7643 08:46:30,000 --> 08:46:30,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: IPs na ito. 7644 08:46:30,860 --> 08:46:32,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po, yung sasabang pawayan at iba pa. 7645 08:46:32,940 --> 08:46:34,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakakausap po namin actually ang mga yan. 7646 08:46:37,220 --> 08:46:41,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madalas na po sila dito sa Maynila dahil nga sa issue ng Paxilica. 7647 08:46:41,780 --> 08:46:43,140 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Wala pa po, wala pa po. 7648 08:46:43,280 --> 08:46:44,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Walang free, wala pa. 7649 08:46:45,880 --> 08:46:46,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O malinaw po ah. 7650 08:46:47,060 --> 08:46:48,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pang free prior. 7651 08:46:48,300 --> 08:46:50,880 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Wala pa po kasi po, wala pa naman yung proyekto. 7652 08:46:51,440 --> 08:46:55,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil, wala pa dahil wala pa yung proyekto. 7653 08:46:55,080 --> 08:46:55,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7654 08:46:55,840 --> 08:46:59,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero kinikilala nyo na meron talagang, 7655 08:47:00,000 --> 08:47:01,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: IP community diyan. 7656 08:47:02,000 --> 08:47:02,840 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Opo, meron. 7657 08:47:03,240 --> 08:47:03,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7658 08:47:04,060 --> 08:47:07,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At kinakailangan, bago matuloy, 7659 08:47:08,180 --> 08:47:08,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang, 7660 08:47:08,700 --> 08:47:11,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano bang proyekto? 7661 08:47:11,580 --> 08:47:12,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po? 7662 08:47:12,900 --> 08:47:15,520 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Continuous po ang dialogue sa BCDA. 7663 08:47:15,960 --> 08:47:16,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7664 08:47:17,440 --> 08:47:20,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Continuous ang dialogue sa BCDA. 7665 08:47:20,880 --> 08:47:21,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so wala pa. 7666 08:47:21,980 --> 08:47:23,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama naman, wala pang. 7667 08:47:23,360 --> 08:47:24,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, wala pa pero, 7668 08:47:26,080 --> 08:47:27,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paano po yan? May mga pinapaalis na. 7669 08:47:27,860 --> 08:47:33,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Aware po ba ang NCIP doon? 7670 08:47:33,560 --> 08:47:35,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya nga nagra-rally na po ang mga, 7671 08:47:35,860 --> 08:47:41,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagra-rally na po ang mga mamamayan doon, 7672 08:47:41,360 --> 08:47:44,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including yung mga indigenous peoples. 7673 08:47:44,360 --> 08:47:49,860 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Sa ngayon po, wala pa pong pinapaalis at hindi po tayo papayag. 7674 08:47:49,860 --> 08:47:54,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so sinasabi nyo wala pang pinapaalis. 7675 08:47:54,100 --> 08:47:56,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, meron ng mga, 7676 08:47:56,960 --> 08:48:02,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: aware tayo na meron ng mga sulat na pinapadala 7677 08:48:02,260 --> 08:48:03,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang 7678 08:48:03,960 --> 08:48:06,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: BCDA. 7679 08:48:06,840 --> 08:48:07,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let me see. 7680 08:48:08,360 --> 08:48:08,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example, 7681 08:48:10,800 --> 08:48:13,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito po. 7682 08:48:14,500 --> 08:48:15,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dated 7683 08:48:15,100 --> 08:48:18,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 8 July 2026. 7684 08:48:20,200 --> 08:48:24,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito'y sa sitio Rivera, Barangay Santa Lucia, Capas Tarlac. 7685 08:48:24,780 --> 08:48:26,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Siyang residente ron. 7686 08:48:26,960 --> 08:48:51,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi ko na po babasahin yung pangalan, pero ang nakalagay po rito: ayon sa mga nakalap na datos sa census survey na naitala ng aming opisina, ang inyong lupang inokupahan na matatagpuan sa Sitio Rivera, Barangay Santa Lucia, Capas, Tarlac ay maapektuhan ng proyektong New Clark City. 7687 08:48:51,400 --> 08:48:56,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya po ay malugod namin kayong inaanyayahan 7688 08:48:56,960 --> 08:49:10,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na makipag-ugnayan sa aming opisina upang mapag-usapan ang mga prosesong pagdadaanan ng proyekto, kasama rito ang anumang tulong na maipagkakaloob ng gobyerno. 7689 08:49:11,400 --> 08:49:16,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Inaasahan namin ang inyong tugon pagkatapos ng pagtanggap ng liham na ito. 7690 08:49:17,320 --> 08:49:22,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang aming opisina ay matatagpuan sa etc. etc. yung mag-meeting daw. 7691 08:49:25,840 --> 08:49:26,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah... 7692 08:49:26,800 --> 08:49:35,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Inaasahan po namin ang inyong kasagutan sa loob ng sampung araw mula sa petya ng pagtanggap ng liham na ito. 7693 08:49:37,460 --> 08:49:39,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At meron pa sa dulo. 7694 08:49:43,400 --> 08:49:44,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7695 08:49:45,240 --> 08:49:55,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po sa inyong pakikisa at pakikipagtulungan para sa pagsulong ng kaunlaran ng bayan ng Capas at lalawigan ng Tarlac. 7696 08:49:56,800 --> 08:50:08,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang sinasabi rito, may proyekto at pag-uusapan na yung anumang tulong na mapagkakaloob ng gobyerno. 7697 08:50:08,460 --> 08:50:10,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Eh alam na po natin ibig sabihin ng tulong na yun. 7698 08:50:11,100 --> 08:50:12,120 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Yung po kasing... 7699 08:50:12,120 --> 08:50:13,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Papaalisin ka na. 7700 08:50:13,880 --> 08:50:15,860 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Yung po kasing Santa Lucia. 7701 08:50:16,060 --> 08:50:16,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. 7702 08:50:16,840 --> 08:50:19,000 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po bahagi ng CADT. 7703 08:50:19,840 --> 08:50:21,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi bahagi ng CADT. 7704 08:50:22,140 --> 08:50:22,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: CADT. 7705 08:50:22,980 --> 08:50:23,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7706 08:50:24,920 --> 08:50:26,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang bahagi ng CADT? 7707 08:50:26,760 --> 08:50:31,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, ito isang sampo lang po nang nakuha natin. 7708 08:50:31,940 --> 08:50:40,160 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ang pinag-uusapan po natin, yung sityo sa pangkawayan, Paranggay Aranguren, Capas Tarlac. 7709 08:50:40,620 --> 08:50:40,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7710 08:50:42,080 --> 08:50:43,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At wala pong CADT. 7711 08:50:43,940 --> 08:50:45,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po covered ng CADT ang area na yan. 7712 08:50:48,140 --> 08:50:52,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ang Santa Lucia po, ang hindi pahagi ng CADT. 7713 08:50:52,300 --> 08:50:53,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero yung mga nabanggit niyo po, 7714 08:50:53,980 --> 08:50:56,030 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: covered po ba ng CADT? 7715 08:50:56,030 --> 08:51:02,360 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ito pong sa Barangay Aranguren, ito po yung may claim. 7716 08:51:02,360 --> 08:51:04,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May claim? 7717 08:51:04,200 --> 08:51:05,200 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po ba may claim? 7718 08:51:05,200 --> 08:51:08,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7719 08:51:08,200 --> 08:51:09,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. 7720 08:51:09,200 --> 08:51:10,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Teka. 7721 08:51:10,200 --> 08:51:11,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hinahanap ko yung claim. 7722 08:51:11,200 --> 08:51:12,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito po. 7723 08:51:12,200 --> 08:51:13,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. 7724 08:51:13,200 --> 08:51:14,200 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Meron pong claim. 7725 08:51:14,200 --> 08:51:15,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito po ba yung claim ng Ita-Hungay? 7726 08:51:15,200 --> 08:51:16,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. 7727 08:51:16,200 --> 08:51:17,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. 7728 08:51:17,200 --> 08:51:18,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. 7729 08:51:18,200 --> 08:51:19,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7730 08:51:21,800 --> 08:51:25,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nag-apply po sila for CADT, original application year 1999. 7731 08:51:26,800 --> 08:51:27,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Tama po. 7732 08:51:27,500 --> 08:51:31,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero resubmission date February 5, 2021. 7733 08:51:33,500 --> 08:51:34,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So ni-resubmit na po sa inyo. 7734 08:51:38,200 --> 08:51:46,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NCIP certification and endorsement issued March 2021 by NCIP Region 3. 7735 08:51:46,300 --> 08:51:48,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Barangays covered: 7736 08:51:48,000 --> 08:51:50,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Aranguren, Capas; Cutcut II, 7737 08:51:50,000 --> 08:51:52,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o Kalangitan, Capas; 7738 08:51:52,100 --> 08:51:54,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell, Capas; 7739 08:51:54,100 --> 08:51:56,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Santa Lucia, 7740 08:51:56,100 --> 08:52:00,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Santa Lucia, Capas; 7741 08:52:01,100 --> 08:52:01,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anupol, 7742 08:52:01,900 --> 08:52:04,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bamban. Tama po? 7743 08:52:05,200 --> 08:52:06,100 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po. 7744 08:52:06,200 --> 08:52:07,700 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Mali po. Hindi po tama. 7745 08:52:07,900 --> 08:52:09,400 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ano po ang nasa inyo? 7746 08:52:09,400 --> 08:52:11,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: May hawak din po tayong dokumento eh. 7747 08:52:11,600 --> 08:52:15,300 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Hindi po covered ng CADT ang Santa Lucia. 7748 08:52:15,300 --> 08:52:17,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ng application, you mean? 7749 08:52:17,400 --> 08:52:20,500 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Nag-amend po sila ng application, 7750 08:52:20,600 --> 08:52:22,400 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: yung mismo mga Aeta. 7751 08:52:24,600 --> 08:52:31,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito nga po, yung application na ito, yun po ang coverage. Pero sinasabi ninyo, hindi. 7752 08:52:31,340 --> 08:52:32,660 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: 2022 po. 7753 08:52:33,600 --> 08:52:36,800 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Nag-amend ang Santa Lucia. 7754 08:52:37,100 --> 08:52:40,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, nag-amend. So, ano, inalis na po yung Santa Lucia? 7755 08:52:42,060 --> 08:52:42,600 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Opo, opo. 7756 08:52:42,920 --> 08:52:48,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, okay. Anyway, pero yung mga ibang ito ay may application. Tama po? 7757 08:52:50,180 --> 08:52:51,020 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Pahagi po yun. 7758 08:52:51,020 --> 08:52:54,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pahagi. Ano po ang status ng application? 7759 08:52:56,440 --> 08:53:05,840 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: The claim remains under processing due to overlapping claims with BCDA titled areas. 7760 08:53:07,080 --> 08:53:20,160 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Funding requirement for CADT processing, incomplete supporting evidence, requiring further validation, and internal community issues that need to be resolved. 7761 08:53:21,020 --> 08:53:33,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, may mga issues pa po. So, may conflicting claims ang grupo ng ITA na ito with BCDA itself. Tama po ba? 7762 08:53:34,320 --> 08:53:37,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos may mga iba pang issue na binanggit kayo. Tama po? 7763 08:53:38,820 --> 08:53:39,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 7764 08:53:39,540 --> 08:53:40,240 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Tama po, tama po. 7765 08:53:40,240 --> 08:53:50,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero ngayon, yung subject na, yung gusto nilang, yung ina-applyan nila, yun mismo, yung area na sasaklawin ng Paxilica Project. 7766 08:53:51,020 --> 08:53:51,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 7767 08:53:52,400 --> 08:53:53,340 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Tama po, tama po. 7768 08:53:53,400 --> 08:53:59,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, yun na nga. Kahit yung Santa Lucia, yung sinasabi nyo, merong ibang application eh. 7769 08:54:02,540 --> 08:54:05,000 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ang tinanggal po yung mga residential areas. 7770 08:54:05,320 --> 08:54:11,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. Pero ang point po natin, meron po mga ITA dyan. At maaring sabihin, eh wala pa. 7771 08:54:11,540 --> 08:54:19,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pending pa yung CADT application nila. In the meantime, pinapaalis na nga po. 7772 08:54:21,020 --> 08:54:30,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayun na nga eh. Bebinasa ako kanina na sulat ng BCDA. Sabi, punta ka dito sa opisina, pag-usapan natin yung tulong na ibibigay sa inyo. 7773 08:54:30,840 --> 08:54:33,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meaning, bibigyan ka na lang ng relocation fee. 7774 08:54:36,400 --> 08:54:50,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, paano po tayo ngayon? Paano ngayon yung mga IP na nandyan? Tandaan po natin, ang mga nandyan po, mga ITA, according to historical and genetic records, talagang isa sa mga unang, 7775 08:54:51,020 --> 08:54:57,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: unang inhabitants ng kapuluan. Di po ba? 7776 08:54:57,140 --> 08:55:07,720 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Wala po. Wala pong information ang NCIP. Ang nakakaalam po diyan ay ang BCDA. 7777 08:55:08,940 --> 08:55:11,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala, sorry po. Wala pong information? 7778 08:55:11,420 --> 08:55:12,260 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Wala silang information [unclear]. 7779 08:55:13,680 --> 08:55:16,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, wala pong ano? Pakiulit lang po. 7780 08:55:16,860 --> 08:55:20,560 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Wala pong official information 7781 08:55:21,020 --> 08:55:23,920 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: ang NCIP sa pagpapaalis po. 7782 08:55:24,760 --> 08:55:26,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, walang information sa pagpapalis. 7783 08:55:26,860 --> 08:55:29,020 Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes: Ang nakakasagot po dyan ay ang BCDA. 7784 08:55:29,500 --> 08:55:41,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Well, ang mungkahi po natin, dahil sabi nyo, meron kayo kaninang commitment na itindigan nyo yung karapatan ng mga IP, 7785 08:55:41,020 --> 08:55:45,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mungkahi po natin ay puntahan nyo na. 7786 08:55:46,940 --> 08:55:51,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil, ayun na nga po, yung mga IP na ito mismo, yung mga nag-apply, 7787 08:55:51,020 --> 08:55:58,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no, pabanggitin ko na po yung pangalan, nung kanilang chieftain ang tawag po nila dyan eh, 7788 08:55:59,580 --> 08:56:03,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si Apong Pet, ayan, nakikita ko po. Kilala po ba yan ng NCIP? 7789 08:56:04,180 --> 08:56:11,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. Ayan, si Chieftain Petronila C. Mu?oz, CADT representative, no. 7790 08:56:11,940 --> 08:56:20,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Eh, sila po, no, ang pinagkukuna natin ng informasyon, no. 7791 08:56:20,360 --> 08:56:21,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 7792 08:56:21,020 --> 08:56:26,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, well, kasama po sila sa dialog. 7793 08:56:26,900 --> 08:56:33,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasama sa dialog. Kaya nga po, at kasama rin sila sa mga nangunguna sa pagprotesta, 7794 08:56:34,600 --> 08:56:42,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kontra sa Paxilica Project at, ayan na nga, sa mga ginagawang panggigipit. 7795 08:56:42,600 --> 08:56:51,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, yung sinasabi nila, kahit yung access, yung mga access roads sa kanilang mga community, 7796 08:56:51,020 --> 08:56:56,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: minsan hinaharangan, and so on, hindi na madaling makapasok, no, 7797 08:56:56,960 --> 08:57:07,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga naisumuporta sa kanilang laban dahil naghihigpit na po ang BCDA, yung New Clark City, dito. 7798 08:57:07,780 --> 08:57:14,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, so, Mr. Speaker, alam ko, tapos na po ang oras natin. 7799 08:57:14,940 --> 08:57:20,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, hinahighlight lang po natin dito, no, na may direktang banta, 7800 08:57:21,020 --> 08:57:32,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Paxilica Project sa karapatan ng mga IP dahil ang unang-unang tatargetin ay critical minerals areas, 7801 08:57:32,920 --> 08:57:37,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meaning yung mga lupain mismo ng mga indigenous peoples. 7802 08:57:37,780 --> 08:57:50,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At kahit nga, sa kaso ng New Clark City, hindi naman daw minahan ito, pero malinaw na mga IP communities din, 7803 08:57:50,320 --> 08:57:55,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particular sa mga barangay at sityo na nabanggit natin, ang direktang maapektuhan. 7804 08:57:56,300 --> 08:58:01,420 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Honorable Tinio, with your indulgence, your time has expired. 7805 08:58:01,620 --> 08:58:02,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Speaker. 7806 08:58:02,260 --> 08:58:02,960 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Wrap up. 7807 08:58:03,440 --> 08:58:04,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I am wrapping up. 7808 08:58:05,160 --> 08:58:14,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya po, yan po ang hamon natin at binabantayan po natin ang NCIP sa isyong ito. 7809 08:58:14,180 --> 08:58:19,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi tayo, hindi natin tatanggapin na ang mangyari pa ang NCIP, 7810 08:58:19,740 --> 08:58:20,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang... 7811 08:58:20,320 --> 08:58:30,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magfafacilitate at magra-rubber stamp sa nais ng U.S. at ng gobyerno Marcos na pabilisin 7812 08:58:30,240 --> 08:58:41,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pagbubukas at pagmimina sa mga lupain natin, lalo na sa mga lupang ninuno, Mr. Speaker. 7813 08:58:41,740 --> 08:58:42,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: With that, maraming salamat po. 7814 08:58:42,980 --> 08:58:46,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Tinio, Majority Leader. 7815 08:58:50,320 --> 08:58:57,020 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Rene Co for her manifestation. 7816 08:58:59,240 --> 08:59:02,440 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Rene Co is recognized. Please proceed. 7817 08:59:04,240 --> 08:59:10,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker, at magandang gabi po sa ating butihing sponsor. 7818 08:59:10,500 --> 08:59:19,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, manifestasyon na lang po ang ihahain ng representasyong ito. 7819 08:59:20,320 --> 08:59:25,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Bago po magtapos ang pag-uusap tungkol sa budget ng NCIP. 7820 08:59:25,020 --> 08:59:34,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa katotohanan, Mr. Speaker, hindi po maganda ang mga napakaraming reports na nakuha natin sa mga indigenous communities 7821 08:59:34,900 --> 08:59:46,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na nakakaranas ng harassment sa mga large mining companies dahil po sa mga itinatayo doon gustong protektahan ng ating mga katutubo, 7822 08:59:46,900 --> 08:59:49,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung kanilang mga lupain, yung kalikasan. 7823 08:59:49,220 --> 08:59:54,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero dahas at even lawfare yung hinaharap sa kanila. 7824 08:59:55,360 --> 08:59:59,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang ilan pong mga nakikita nating mga kaso ay yung 7825 09:00:00,000 --> 09:00:02,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nakaharap ngayon ng mga katutubo 7826 09:00:02,440 --> 09:00:04,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa Kasibu, 7827 09:00:04,400 --> 09:00:05,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nueva Vizcaya, 7828 09:00:05,960 --> 09:00:07,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung saan ang North Luzon 7829 09:00:07,740 --> 09:00:09,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mineral Resources Corporation 7830 09:00:09,560 --> 09:00:11,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay gusto rin pong i-exploit 7831 09:00:11,940 --> 09:00:13,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang ancestral lands. 7832 09:00:13,820 --> 09:00:14,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ngunit nga po, 7833 09:00:15,220 --> 09:00:17,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa progress ng 7834 09:00:17,600 --> 09:00:19,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pagkakaso nila ay may certificate 7835 09:00:19,880 --> 09:00:21,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of non-overlap 7836 09:00:21,700 --> 09:00:23,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na in-issue ang NCIP na hanggang 7837 09:00:23,820 --> 09:00:25,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ngayon ay kinokontest po nila ito 7838 09:00:25,660 --> 09:00:27,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: via petition sa 7839 09:00:27,480 --> 09:00:29,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ahensya. 7840 09:00:30,920 --> 09:00:31,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron din po tayong 7841 09:00:31,820 --> 09:00:33,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nakuhang concerns 7842 09:00:33,420 --> 09:00:36,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: galing sa mga residente ng Bulalakaw 7843 09:00:36,200 --> 09:00:38,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at Ginawang ng Benguet 7844 09:00:38,220 --> 09:00:40,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na apektado ng mining 7845 09:00:40,140 --> 09:00:42,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: activities ng Crescent Mining and Development 7846 09:00:42,400 --> 09:00:44,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Corporation na nung una po 7847 09:00:44,580 --> 09:00:46,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bumoto laban sa proyekto 7848 09:00:46,660 --> 09:00:48,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero yung botohan na po 7849 09:00:48,600 --> 09:00:50,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yun ay pinalawak 7850 09:00:50,420 --> 09:00:51,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa ibang mga barangay 7851 09:00:51,840 --> 09:00:54,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na diniliot yung opposition 7852 09:00:54,360 --> 09:00:56,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the host communities. 7853 09:00:56,480 --> 09:00:58,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sila rin po ay may pending na 7854 09:00:58,180 --> 09:00:59,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kaso sa NCIP. 7855 09:01:00,000 --> 09:01:01,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At inaalala din po namin 7856 09:01:01,660 --> 09:01:04,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung kaso ng mga indigenous peoples 7857 09:01:04,100 --> 09:01:05,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: o yung mga bugkalot 7858 09:01:05,080 --> 09:01:07,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa Dupaks del Norte, Nueva Vizcaya 7859 09:01:07,600 --> 09:01:09,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: laban po sa Woggle Corporation 7860 09:01:09,680 --> 09:01:11,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at sila po in particular ay 7861 09:01:11,680 --> 09:01:13,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mas aggrieved dahil sila po ay mga 7862 09:01:13,720 --> 09:01:15,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: katutubo na galing po sa mga 7863 09:01:15,760 --> 09:01:17,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kataas-taasan ng Cordillera 7864 09:01:17,360 --> 09:01:19,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na puwersa na displaced 7865 09:01:19,420 --> 09:01:21,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa Nueva Vizcaya dahil po sa mga 7866 09:01:21,660 --> 09:01:24,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pagmimina pa po nung 1980s 7867 09:01:24,200 --> 09:01:25,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at wala pang IPRA 7868 09:01:25,700 --> 09:01:27,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wala pang NCIP 7869 09:01:27,140 --> 09:01:29,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wala pong recurso tuloy silang mapuntahan 7870 09:01:30,000 --> 09:01:31,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mahanapan para po 7871 09:01:31,340 --> 09:01:33,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ma-assert yung kanilang mga 7872 09:01:33,440 --> 09:01:35,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: natanggal na karapatan 7873 09:01:35,500 --> 09:01:37,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for ancestral lands and domains. 7874 09:01:38,240 --> 09:01:39,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, 7875 09:01:39,640 --> 09:01:41,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, many communities 7876 09:01:41,660 --> 09:01:43,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: who also resist these corporations 7877 09:01:43,500 --> 09:01:45,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are red-tagged and faced 7878 09:01:45,860 --> 09:01:47,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with multiple lawsuits 7879 09:01:47,220 --> 09:01:49,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yet the NCIP 7880 09:01:49,020 --> 09:01:51,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: has done little 7881 09:01:51,840 --> 09:01:53,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to protect indigenous peoples 7882 09:01:53,900 --> 09:01:55,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and advocates. 7883 09:01:55,880 --> 09:01:57,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So hanggang ngayon po, Mr. Speaker, 7884 09:01:57,880 --> 09:01:58,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, 7885 09:02:00,000 --> 09:02:01,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: marami tayong mga tanong 7886 09:02:01,600 --> 09:02:04,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero dahil natanong na rin po 7887 09:02:04,180 --> 09:02:05,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang mga tanong na yun 7888 09:02:05,280 --> 09:02:07,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng ating mga ibang colleagues 7889 09:02:07,800 --> 09:02:09,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa kanilang mga 7890 09:02:09,620 --> 09:02:11,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: interpellations, 7891 09:02:11,800 --> 09:02:13,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for now, I'd just like to note 7892 09:02:13,740 --> 09:02:15,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on the record that 7893 09:02:15,600 --> 09:02:17,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation, among others, 7894 09:02:18,280 --> 09:02:19,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are also left unsatisfied 7895 09:02:19,700 --> 09:02:21,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with the questions. 7896 09:02:21,980 --> 09:02:24,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonetheless, there being no further 7897 09:02:24,060 --> 09:02:25,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: questions from the minority, 7898 09:02:26,400 --> 09:02:28,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I move to terminate the period 7899 09:02:28,140 --> 09:02:29,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of interpellation. 7900 09:02:30,000 --> 09:02:32,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For the National Commission on Indigenous Peoples 7901 09:02:32,520 --> 09:02:33,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or NCIP. 7902 09:02:33,980 --> 09:02:36,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sana po ay makuha na lang po 7903 09:02:36,080 --> 09:02:37,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng ating mga colleagues 7904 09:02:37,960 --> 09:02:40,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung nire-request na impormasyon 7905 09:02:40,320 --> 09:02:41,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng NCIP 7906 09:02:41,740 --> 09:02:44,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa kagyat na panahon. 7907 09:02:44,520 --> 09:02:45,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So moved, Mr. Chair. 7908 09:02:46,920 --> 09:02:48,660 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say? 7909 09:02:51,940 --> 09:02:52,500 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Mr. Speaker, 7910 09:02:54,000 --> 09:02:55,220 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: the part of the majority, 7911 09:02:56,260 --> 09:02:57,840 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: we join the minority 7912 09:02:57,840 --> 09:02:59,820 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: in the motion to terminate. 7913 09:03:00,000 --> 09:03:02,020 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: The period of interpellations 7914 09:03:02,020 --> 09:03:03,760 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: on the proposed budget 7915 09:03:03,760 --> 09:03:05,840 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: of the NCIP. 7916 09:03:06,680 --> 09:03:07,980 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint 7917 09:03:07,980 --> 09:03:09,840 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: motion to terminate 7918 09:03:09,840 --> 09:03:12,280 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: the interpellations on the proposed 7919 09:03:12,280 --> 09:03:14,080 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: budget of the National 7920 09:03:14,080 --> 09:03:16,320 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Commission on Indigenous Peoples. 7921 09:03:17,320 --> 09:03:18,280 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 7922 09:03:19,300 --> 09:03:20,320 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. 7923 09:03:20,680 --> 09:03:22,120 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations on the proposed 7924 09:03:22,120 --> 09:03:24,000 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: budget of the National 7925 09:03:24,000 --> 09:03:25,920 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Commission on Indigenous Peoples 7926 09:03:25,920 --> 09:03:27,580 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is terminated. 7927 09:03:28,380 --> 09:03:29,100 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority leader. 7928 09:03:34,920 --> 09:03:35,310 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: [unclear] 7929 09:03:37,140 --> 09:03:38,480 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion suspended. 7930 09:03:38,840 --> 09:03:39,920 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session suspended.