# House Plenary: FY 2027 General Appropriations Bill Day 4 Part 1 - September 18, 2026

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1PqqrjSyAw

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**[00:06:44.950] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000014)  
Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

**[00:06:50.650] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000014-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, I move to take up additional reference of business and request that the Secretary General be directed to read the titles of bills and resolutions on first reading as well as

**[00:07:00.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000015)  
communications and committee reports. I so move.

**[00:07:03.240] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000015-split-2)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. The Secretary General is directed to read the titles of bills and resolutions on first reading as well as communications and committee reports for referral to the appropriate committee.

**[00:07:18.880] Secretary-General** (asr-000015-split-3)  
Additional Reference of Business. Bills on First Reading. House Bill 11352, providing for fair treatment of certain senior citizen pensioners

**[00:07:30.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000016)  
by granting annual Christmas cash gift, 13th month pension, and pension increases to pensioners of the SSS and GSIS by Representative Olivares.

**[00:07:41.970] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000016-split-2)  
To the Committee on Senior Citizens.

**[00:07:44.250] Secretary-General** (asr-000016-split-3)  
House Bill 11353, establishing autism centers in early detection programs nationwide by Representative Olivares.

**[00:07:53.270] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000016-split-4)  
To the Committee on Health and Special Committee on Persons with Disabilities.

**[00:07:57.510] Secretary-General** (asr-000016-split-5)  
House Bill 11354,

**[00:08:00.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000017)  
Increasing the recruitment, training, and education quota for women in the PNP by Representative Olivares.

**[00:08:07.680] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000018)  
To the Committee on Public Order and Safety.

**[00:08:10.180] Secretary-General** (asr-000019)  
House Bill 11355 mandating the deployment of mobile health clinics to geographically isolated and disadvantaged areas

**[00:08:20.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000020)  
and other underserved communities strengthening the capacity of the DOH to provide regular mobile health centers by Representative Olivares.

**[00:08:29.460] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000021)  
To the Committee on Health.

**[00:08:31.620] Secretary-General** (asr-000022)  
House Bill 11356 mandating the establishment of accessible, safe, clean, gender-responsive, and well-maintained public toilets and sanitation facilities

**[00:08:43.060] Secretary-General** (asr-000023)  
in public places, transport terminals, tourist areas, markets, parks, and government centers by Representative Olivares.

**[00:08:52.320] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000024)  
To the Committee on Public Works and Highways.

**[00:08:54.440] Secretary-General** (asr-000025)  
House Bill 11357 increasing the bed capacity of the Camiguin General Hospital

**[00:08:59.460] Secretary-General** (asr-000026)  
in Mambajao, Camiguin,

**[00:09:01.620] Secretary-General** (asr-000027)  
by Representative Romualdo.

**[00:09:05.140] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000028)  
To the Committee on Health.

**[00:09:07.160] Secretary-General** (asr-000029)  
House Bill 11359 declaring July 15 of every year a special non-working holiday in Calabanga, Camarines, Sur in commemoration of its Foundation Day by Representative Legacion.

**[00:09:20.520] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000030)  
To the Committee on Local Government.

**[00:09:22.280] Secretary-General** (asr-000031)  
House Bill 11360 strengthening coastal and marine environment protection through institutionalized

**[00:09:29.460] Secretary-General** (asr-000032)  
cleanup activities by Representative Vargas.

**[00:09:33.320] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000033)  
To the Committee on Ecology.

**[00:09:34.940] Secretary-General** (asr-000034)  
House Bill 11361 declaring every 10th of February each year as National Safer Internet Day in the Philippines.

**[00:09:45.240] Secretary-General** (asr-000035)  
By Representative Vargas.

**[00:09:47.080] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000036)  
To the Committee on Information and Communications Technology.

**[00:09:50.060] Secretary-General** (asr-000037)  
House Bill 11362 ensuring the availability, adequacy, accessibility, and safety of food to every Filipino,

**[00:09:59.460] Secretary-General** (asr-000038)  
by Representative Vargas.

**[00:10:01.060] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000039)  
To the Committee on Human Rights.

**[00:10:02.820] Secretary-General** (asr-000040)  
House Bill 11363 mandating law enforcement officers to use a body worn camera during law enforcement operations by Representative Tieng.

**[00:10:14.640] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000041)  
To the Committee on Public Order and Safety.

**[00:10:17.060] Secretary-General** (asr-000042)  
House Bill 11364 increasing the retirement age for uniformed personnel of the PNP from 56 years old to 57 years old by Representative Tieng.

**[00:10:28.480] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000043)  
To the Committee on Public Order and Safety.

**[00:10:29.460] Secretary-General** (asr-000044)  
House Bill 11365, establishing the Philippine National Forensic DNA Database

**[00:10:37.020] Secretary-General** (asr-000045)  
by Representatives Ko Antonio and Ko Elisa.

**[00:10:41.200] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000045-split-2)  
To the Committee on Public Order and Safety.

**[00:10:43.820] Secretary-General** (asr-000046)  
House Bill 11366, regulating the possession and operation of unmanned systems by Representatives

**[00:10:52.120] Secretary-General** (asr-000047)  
Ko Antonio and Ko Elisa.

**[00:10:54.440] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000047-split-2)  
To the Committee on Transportation.

**[00:10:56.460] Secretary-General** (asr-000047-split-3)  
House Bill 11367,

**[00:10:59.640] Secretary-General** (asr-000048)  
declaring November 26 of every year a special non-working holiday in Dasmariñas, Cavite

**[00:11:05.880] Secretary-General** (asr-000049)  
in commemoration of its founding anniversary and the annual Paro-Paro Festival by Representative

**[00:11:12.240] Secretary-General** (asr-000050)  
Austria Barzaga.

**[00:11:13.500] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000050-split-2)  
To the Committee on Local Government.

**[00:11:16.465] Secretary-General** (asr-000050-split-3)  
House Bill 11369, strengthening the

**[00:11:19.800] Secretary-General** (asr-000051)  
Philippine healthcare system to achieve efficiency and equity and to improve public health emergency

**[00:11:26.080] Secretary-General** (asr-000052)  
preparedness by Representatives Tulfo.

**[00:11:29.720] Secretary-General** (asr-000053)  
Ralph Wendell and Tulfo Jocelyn.

**[00:11:31.820] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000053-split-2)  
To the Committee on Health.

**[00:11:34.218] Secretary-General** (asr-000053-split-3)  
House Bill 11370, establishing the Philippine

**[00:11:38.100] Secretary-General** (asr-000054)  
Cybersecurity Council and enhancing the National Cybersecurity Framework by Representatives Tulfo,

**[00:11:45.100] Secretary-General** (asr-000055)  
Ralph Wendell and Tulfo Jocelyn.

**[00:11:47.440] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000055-split-2)  
To the Committee on Information and Communications Technology.

**[00:11:50.040] Secretary-General** (asr-000056)  
House Bill 11371, mandating the formulation and institutionalization of a comprehensive infrastructure

**[00:11:59.460] Secretary-General** (asr-000057)  
development master plan, establishing the Master Plan for Infrastructure in National Development Council by Representatives Tulfo, Ralph Wendell, and Tulfo Jocelyn.

**[00:12:11.220] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000058)  
To the Committee on Public Works and Highways.

**[00:12:13.800] Secretary-General** (asr-000059)  
Communication. Letter dated September 7, 2026 of the Office of the President, acting Executive Secretary, enhancing the Universal Access to Quality Tertiary Education Act which was signed by President

**[00:12:29.460] Secretary-General** (asr-000060)  
Ferdinand Romualdo Marcos Jr.

**[00:12:33.080] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000061)  
To the archives.

**[00:12:34.780] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000062)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:12:41.440] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000063)  
Madam Speaker, I move to suspend the session for a few minutes.

**[00:12:45.280] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000064)  
Session is suspended.

**[00:21:30.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000083)  
Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

**[00:21:54.630] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000083-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, under the calendar of unfinished business, I move to

**[00:22:00.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000084)  
resume consideration of House Bill No. 10858 as contained in Committee Report No. 638. And for this purpose, direct the Secretary General to read the title of the said measure.

**[00:22:11.420] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000084-split-2)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. The Secretary General is hereby directed to read the title of House Bill No. 10858.

**[00:22:21.200] Secretary-General** (asr-000084-split-3)  
House Bill No. 10858, an act appropriating funds for the operation of the Government of the Republic of the Philippines from January 1

**[00:22:30.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000085)  
to December 31, 2027.

**[00:22:35.500] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000085-split-2)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:22:39.230] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000085-split-3)  
Madam Speaker, the parliamentary status of House Bill No. 10858 is that it is in the period of sponsorship and debate. I now move to consider the proposed budget of the Metro Manila Development Authority.

**[00:22:56.640] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000085-split-4)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved.

**[00:23:00.950] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000087)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:23:02.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000088)  
Madam

**[00:23:03.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000089)  
Speaker,

**[00:23:04.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000090)  
may we acknowledge the

**[00:23:05.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000091)  
heads and officials of

**[00:23:06.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000092)  
the Metro Manila

**[00:23:07.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000093)  
Development Authority.

**[00:23:09.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000095)  
Chairman Atty.

**[00:23:10.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000096)  
Romando S.

**[00:23:11.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000097)  
Artes, Assistant

**[00:23:13.300] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000099)  
Secretary David

**[00:23:14.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000100)  
Angelo R.

**[00:23:15.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000101)  
Vargas, Assistant

**[00:23:16.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000102)  
Secretary

**[00:23:17.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000103)  
Maria Carolina

**[00:23:18.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000104)  
M. Salgado.

**[00:23:20.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000106)  
We

**[00:23:21.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000107)  
welcome the representatives

**[00:23:22.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000108)  
of

**[00:23:23.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000109)  
Metro

**[00:23:24.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000110)  
Manila

**[00:23:25.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000111)  
Development Authority.

**[00:23:26.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000112)  
Welcome to

**[00:23:27.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000113)  
the House of Representatives.

**[00:23:28.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000114)  
Majority

**[00:23:29.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000115)  
Leader.

**[00:23:30.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000116)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations,

**[00:23:47.280] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000117)  
Representative Monique Yasmine Maria Q. Lagdameo, 1st District of Makati,

**[00:23:52.540] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000118)  
and Vice Chair Alexandria Queenie P. Gonzalez, Lone District of Mandaluyong City.

**[00:23:57.360] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000119)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none.

**[00:24:00.680] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000120)  
Representative Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, Monique Lagdameo,

**[00:24:08.240] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000121)  
and Vice Chairperson Queenie Gonzalez are now recognized to begin the sponsorship of House Bill No. 10858.

**[00:24:17.040] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000122)  
Good morning, Madam Speaker and distinguished members of this August Chamber.

**[00:24:21.620] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000123)  
We are honored to sponsor today the proposed budget of the Metropolitan Manila

**[00:24:27.360] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000124)  
Development Authority, or the MMDA, for the fiscal year 2027.

**[00:24:32.380] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000125)  
The State recognizes Metro Manila as a special development and administrative region.

**[00:24:37.800] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000126)  
By reason of the complex and interrelated challenges of rapid urbanization in Metro Manila,

**[00:24:43.280] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000127)  
such as those relating to traffic management, solid waste disposal, flood mitigation and sewerage management,

**[00:24:49.900] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000128)  
urban renewal, health and sanitation, and public safety, the MMDA was established under RA No. 7924,

**[00:24:57.360] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000129)  
with a mandate, among other things, to formulate, coordinate, regulate, and monitor the implementation of medium and long-term plans and programs for the delivery of Metro-wide services.

**[00:25:09.600] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000130)  
It works in close partnership with the 17 local governments to develop and implement integrated, sustainable, and resilient metropolitan development strategies for Metro Manila.

**[00:25:20.240] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000131)  
Under House Bill No. 10858, or General Appropriations Bill for Fiscal Year 2027,

**[00:25:27.360] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000132)  
the MMDA seeks the approval of its proposed national subsidy in the amount of Php 6,560,912,000.

**[00:25:35.440] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000133)  
This allocation will provide the MMDA with the means and resources necessary to fulfill its mandate

**[00:25:41.200] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000134)  
and fund and implement its core programs on solid waste and disposal management,

**[00:25:45.840] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000135)  
traffic and transport management, flood mitigation and sewerage management,

**[00:25:51.220] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000136)  
Pasig River Ferry Service and MMDA Roadside Management Program.

**[00:25:55.360] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000137)  
These are programs and services,

**[00:25:57.360] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000138)  
essential to the millions of Filipinos who live, work, and travel throughout Metro Manila.

**[00:26:02.000] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000139)  
In view of the foregoing, I respectfully urge my esteemed colleagues to support the immediate approval of the proposed budget of the MMDA for Fiscal Year 2027.

**[00:26:11.900] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000140)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, and we are now ready to entertain questions from the floor.

**[00:26:15.960] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000141)  
Majority Leader?

**[00:26:17.940] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000142)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Ega Erice of Caloocan

**[00:26:24.720] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000143)  
to interpellate the proposed

**[00:26:26.220] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000144)  
budget of

**[00:26:26.720] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000145)  
the Metro Manila

**[00:26:27.360] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000146)  
Development

**[00:26:27.860] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000147)  
Authority.

**[00:26:29.120] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000149)  
The gentleman from the second district of Caloocan City, Representative Edgar Erice, is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[00:26:35.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-000150)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you, our Majority Leader and our sponsor.

**[00:26:42.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-000151)  
Napakaliit po nung budget nung Metro Manila.

**[00:26:46.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-000152)  
Palagay ko, self-explanatory na ito.

**[00:26:49.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-000153)  
Ang aking pakiusap lang,

**[00:26:51.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-000154)  
baka pwede po nating dagdagan during the period of amendments.

**[00:26:56.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-000155)  
So, I move.

**[00:26:57.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-000156)  
that we terminate

**[00:26:59.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-000157)  
the consideration of

**[00:27:02.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-000158)  
MMDA's

**[00:27:04.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-000159)  
budget.

**[00:27:07.220] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000160)  
What does the House say?

**[00:27:08.640] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000161)  
Madam Speaker, on the part

**[00:27:11.580] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000162)  
of the majority, we join the minority

**[00:27:13.280] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000163)  
in the motion to terminate the period of

**[00:27:15.180] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000164)  
interpellations on the proposed budget of the

**[00:27:17.260] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000165)  
Metro Manila Development Authority.

**[00:27:18.810] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000166)  
There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations

**[00:27:21.240] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000167)  
of the proposed budget of the Metropolitan

**[00:27:23.400] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000168)  
Manila Development Authority.

**[00:27:25.040] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000169)  
Is there any objection?

**[00:27:26.540] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000170)  
The Chair hears none. The motion is approved.

**[00:27:29.780] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000171)  
Congratulations, MMDA.

**[00:27:31.380] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000172)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[00:27:33.220] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000173)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:27:34.840] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000174)  
Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes.

**[00:27:37.320] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000175)  
Session is suspended.

**[00:34:28.840] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000202)  
Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

**[00:34:31.700] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000203)  
Madam Speaker, I move to reconsider the termination of the interpellation of the budget of MMDA.

**[00:34:40.030] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000203-split-2)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

**[00:34:46.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000203-split-3)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Antonio Tinio from ACT Teachers Party-List to interpellate the proposed budget.

**[00:34:55.720] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000203-split-4)  
Representative Antonio Tinio of ACT Teachers Party-List is recognized for his interpellation.

**[00:35:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000204)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[00:35:03.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000205)  
Madam Speaker,

**[00:35:05.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000206)  
ilang paglilinaw po sana

**[00:35:08.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000207)  
kaugnay sa

**[00:35:09.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000208)  
social media policy

**[00:35:11.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000209)  
ng MMDA.

**[00:35:14.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000210)  
Itong nakaraang

**[00:35:16.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000211)  
July 14,

**[00:35:19.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000212)  
nagkaroon po ng isang insidente

**[00:35:22.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000213)  
where a video

**[00:35:24.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000214)  
uploaded to the

**[00:35:25.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000215)  
MMDA page

**[00:35:26.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000216)  
of

**[00:35:28.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000217)  
Gabriel Christian Go

**[00:35:32.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000218)  
at the time

**[00:35:33.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000219)  
head of the

**[00:35:34.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000220)  
MMDA Special Operations

**[00:35:36.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000221)  
Group Task Force

**[00:35:38.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000222)  
for Road Clearing.

**[00:35:41.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000223)  
It was a video

**[00:35:43.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000224)  
of him

**[00:35:44.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000225)  
citing

**[00:35:47.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000226)  
a

**[00:35:48.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000227)  
teacher, a public school teacher

**[00:35:51.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000228)  
for a traffic violation.

**[00:35:54.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000229)  
Yung insidente po na ito,

**[00:35:55.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000230)  
naging viral po ito.

**[00:35:57.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000231)  
Million people,

**[00:35:58.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000232)  
million po ang views

**[00:35:59.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000233)  
and subsequent to this incident

**[00:36:02.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000234)  
ay nagpahayag yung

**[00:36:05.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000235)  
teacher na sa feeling niya

**[00:36:09.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000236)  
nalabag ang kanyang

**[00:36:10.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000237)  
right to privacy

**[00:36:11.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000238)  
at napahiya daw siya.

**[00:36:16.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000239)  
At

**[00:36:17.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000240)  
marami ang

**[00:36:20.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000241)  
tumangayon sa pagtingin,

**[00:36:23.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000242)  
kasama na po ang kinatawang ito

**[00:36:25.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000243)  
na

**[00:36:26.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000244)  
isang bagay yung

**[00:36:28.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000245)  
pagsita para sa traffic

**[00:36:30.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000246)  
violation, tama lang yun

**[00:36:32.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000247)  
kung may paglabag.

**[00:36:34.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000248)  
Pero ibang usapin, yung maging content

**[00:36:36.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000249)  
sa

**[00:36:38.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000250)  
social media page

**[00:36:41.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000251)  
at may kasama

**[00:36:42.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000252)  
pang

**[00:36:43.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000253)  
pangangaral at

**[00:36:46.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000254)  
ayon sa teacher, yung pagpapahiya.

**[00:36:49.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000255)  
So yun po yung issue

**[00:36:50.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000256)  
na gusto nating malinawan.

**[00:36:53.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000257)  
First of all,

**[00:36:57.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000258)  
pwede po bang malinawan?

**[00:36:58.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000259)  
Ang status nitong si

**[00:37:00.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000260)  
ginoong Gabrielle Christian Goh,

**[00:37:03.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000261)  
nananatili po ba siyang

**[00:37:05.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000262)  
head pa rin ng

**[00:37:08.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000263)  
Special Operations Group Task Force

**[00:37:10.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000264)  
for Road Clearing?

**[00:37:14.300] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000265)  
Madam Speaker,

**[00:37:15.980] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000266)  
distinguished colleague, so sasabihin ko lang po

**[00:37:18.380] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000267)  
yung status as of now

**[00:37:19.820] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000268)  
ng Clearing Operations, Gabrielle Goh.

**[00:37:23.000] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000269)  
So, hindi po siya

**[00:37:24.700] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000270)  
sinuspend ngayon,

**[00:37:26.640] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000271)  
pero

**[00:37:27.520] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000272)  
nagmamonitor po siya still

**[00:37:31.000] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000273)  
ng Clearing Operations

**[00:37:32.380] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000274)  
via CCTVs po

**[00:37:34.980] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000275)  
doon sa command center nila.

**[00:37:38.280] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000276)  
Hindi rin po

**[00:37:38.980] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000277)  
pwedeng itigil

**[00:37:41.320] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000278)  
of course ng MMDA fully

**[00:37:42.880] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000279)  
ang kanilang Clearing Ops dahil

**[00:37:44.860] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000280)  
obviously sa Metro Manila

**[00:37:47.220] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000281)  
ang dami hong lumalabag sa ganitong

**[00:37:49.260] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000282)  
mga, yung nangyayari ho, ang daming

**[00:37:51.140] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000283)  
sa banketa

**[00:37:53.240] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000284)  
na sinasakop nila

**[00:37:55.580] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000285)  
yung banketa. So, kailangan

**[00:37:57.080] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000286)  
ipagpatuloy pa rin ho yung

**[00:37:58.720] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000287)  
Clearing Ops. Meron ho silang

**[00:38:01.500] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000288)  
he is undergoing

**[00:38:03.820] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000289)  
administrative

**[00:38:04.740] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000290)  
investigation as of now.

**[00:38:08.480] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000291)  
Immediately ho,

**[00:38:09.520] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000292)  
after natanggap yung

**[00:38:11.300] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000293)  
sulat po ng Teachers' Dignity

**[00:38:13.140] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000294)  
Coalition, ay

**[00:38:15.040] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000295)  
sinuspend na ho siya. Sinuspend

**[00:38:17.260] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000296)  
ho siya, hindi ho siya

**[00:38:19.440] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000297)  
kasama sa mga Clearing Ops

**[00:38:21.180] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000298)  
on the ground. Doon po siya

**[00:38:23.180] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000299)  
sa command center, nagmamonitor.

**[00:38:26.300] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000300)  
So, dahil nga,

**[00:38:27.080] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000301)  
meron ho siyang

**[00:38:28.000] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000302)  
pending po yung kanyang investigation

**[00:38:31.040] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000303)  
ngayon, administrative investigation.

**[00:38:33.680] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000304)  
Ang resolution po nito

**[00:38:35.380] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000305)  
ay lalabas naman po

**[00:38:37.540] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000306)  
within this year.

**[00:38:39.320] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000307)  
Ngayon, kailangan rin ho

**[00:38:41.000] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000308)  
intindihin natin na ang

**[00:38:43.040] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000309)  
status niya ho ay

**[00:38:45.000] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000310)  
isa siyang regular employee.

**[00:38:47.180] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000311)  
So, he has to be accorded

**[00:38:49.300] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000312)  
due process.

**[00:38:51.460] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000313)  
Ang MMDA po ay

**[00:38:52.940] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000314)  
sinulatan, inano ho siya

**[00:38:55.420] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000315)  
asked him in

**[00:38:57.080] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000316)  
writing through a show-cause order

**[00:38:59.060] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000317)  
doon ho sa naging incidenting ito.

**[00:39:02.480] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000318)  
So,

**[00:39:03.100] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000319)  
aside from this,

**[00:39:05.020] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000320)  
nag-undergo po siya ng five-day

**[00:39:06.780] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000321)  
training, mentorship, coaching

**[00:39:09.120] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000322)  
on traffic management,

**[00:39:11.180] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000323)  
focusing on leadership,

**[00:39:13.320] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000324)  
courtesy, discipline

**[00:39:15.480] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000325)  
with special attention

**[00:39:16.900] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000326)  
to anger and stress management.

**[00:39:20.520] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000327)  
Your Honor.

**[00:39:21.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000328)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker,

**[00:39:23.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000329)  
for that clarification.

**[00:39:24.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000330)  
So,

**[00:39:25.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000331)  
para i-recap ko lang po

**[00:39:29.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000332)  
yung batay sa naintindihan ko

**[00:39:31.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000333)  
sa sinabi niyo, nananatili siya sa MMDA.

**[00:39:34.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000334)  
He is still with the

**[00:39:36.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000335)  
task force for road clearing.

**[00:39:39.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000336)  
Tama po ba?

**[00:39:39.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000337)  
Pero nagmamonitor siya ngayon

**[00:39:41.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000338)  
from the office, kumbaga.

**[00:39:44.720] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000339)  
Yes, Your Honor.

**[00:39:45.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000340)  
Not in the field.

**[00:39:46.640] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000341)  
Not in the field anymore, Your Honor.

**[00:39:48.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000342)  
And that he, as you mentioned,

**[00:39:49.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000343)  
he has some pending cases.

**[00:39:53.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000344)  
Ganun po ba?

**[00:39:54.160] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000345)  
Administrative cases.

**[00:39:57.220] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000346)  
Which will have a resolution

**[00:39:58.760] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000347)  
the MMDA promised within this year po.

**[00:40:01.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000348)  
And the cases are in relation to

**[00:40:03.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000349)  
ano po yung mga kaso?

**[00:40:06.500] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000350)  
To that particular incident, Your Honor.

**[00:40:08.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000351)  
To this particular incident.

**[00:40:10.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000352)  
Okay. So,

**[00:40:11.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000353)  
ay, pakibalik lang po.

**[00:40:14.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000354)  
Okay.

**[00:40:16.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000355)  
Ito nga po yung July 14

**[00:40:18.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000356)  
incident, no?

**[00:40:19.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000357)  
At merong particular na

**[00:40:22.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000358)  
quotes

**[00:40:23.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000359)  
from the

**[00:40:24.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000360)  
transcript of that incident

**[00:40:26.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000361)  
where the teacher

**[00:40:27.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000362)  
specifically requests

**[00:40:29.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000363)  
Mr. Go,

**[00:40:31.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000364)  
Sir, baka pwede wag nyo nang

**[00:40:32.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000365)  
iano sa ano?

**[00:40:34.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000366)  
Sa ano nyo?

**[00:40:35.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000367)  
Nakakahiya, teacher ako.

**[00:40:37.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000368)  
Sa context, maintindihan po natin

**[00:40:39.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000369)  
na wag nyo nang

**[00:40:40.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000370)  
i-post

**[00:40:41.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000371)  
sa vlog nyo

**[00:40:44.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000372)  
or sa account nyo.

**[00:40:46.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000373)  
No, yung ibig sabihin nung

**[00:40:48.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000374)  
iano sa ano?

**[00:40:52.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000375)  
Alam nyo naman ang Pilipino,

**[00:40:54.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000376)  
ganyan ang language natin.

**[00:40:57.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000377)  
Kung babasahin mo lang

**[00:40:58.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000378)  
out of content, parang di maintindihan.

**[00:41:00.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000379)  
Pero in the context of that situation,

**[00:41:02.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000380)  
maintindihan natin ang request niya.

**[00:41:04.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000381)  
At malinaw din yung intent, no?

**[00:41:06.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000382)  
Dahil, nagre-request siya

**[00:41:08.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000383)  
dahil nakakahiya daw.

**[00:41:10.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000384)  
Nakakahiya daw dahil

**[00:41:12.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000385)  
teacher siya. So, ayon yung

**[00:41:14.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000386)  
mahiya, pangalawa, konektado

**[00:41:16.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000387)  
sa pagiging teacher niya.

**[00:41:18.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000388)  
Hindi po issue dito.

**[00:41:21.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000389)  
At wala namang

**[00:41:22.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000390)  
nagde-deny.

**[00:41:24.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000391)  
Kaya may violation talaga yung teacher.

**[00:41:26.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000392)  
Pero ang request niya is

**[00:41:28.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000393)  
okay, tanggap yung violation, pero

**[00:41:30.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000394)  
wag i-post.

**[00:41:33.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000395)  
So, mas yun yung issue.

**[00:41:35.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000396)  
Now, the reply of

**[00:41:36.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000397)  
Mr. Goh was very telling.

**[00:41:38.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000398)  
Naka-blurred ka naman eh.

**[00:41:41.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000399)  
Naka-blurred ka naman eh.

**[00:41:43.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000400)  
Huwag ka na lang

**[00:41:44.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000401)  
magpapakilala ng

**[00:41:46.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000402)  
pangalan mo. Huwag ka na lang

**[00:41:47.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000403)  
magpapakilala ng pangalan mo.

**[00:41:50.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000404)  
So, again, to understand the context,

**[00:41:52.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000405)  
ang ibig niya sabihin,

**[00:41:54.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000406)  
ipopost kita, pero

**[00:41:56.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000407)  
ibablurr ko yung mukha mo.

**[00:41:59.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000408)  
Tapos,

**[00:42:00.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000409)  
sinabihan niya, huwag ka na lang

**[00:42:02.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000410)  
magpakilala.

**[00:42:04.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000411)  
So, ibig sabihin,

**[00:42:07.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000412)  
para magamit pa rin niya,

**[00:42:10.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000413)  
yung

**[00:42:10.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000414)  
video ay

**[00:42:12.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000415)  
huwag na lang daw magpakilala.

**[00:42:15.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000416)  
So,

**[00:42:17.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000417)  
yung po yung

**[00:42:18.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000418)  
ibig sabihin dito,

**[00:42:20.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000419)  
aware si Mr. Goh,

**[00:42:22.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000420)  
na may mga

**[00:42:23.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000421)  
issues of privacy dito.

**[00:42:26.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000422)  
Kaya sabi, huwag ka na lang magpakilala.

**[00:42:28.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000423)  
O, parang gano'n.

**[00:42:30.200] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000424)  
Mr.

**[00:42:31.140] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000425)  
Yes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[00:42:34.200] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000426)  
Kasama po sa investigation,

**[00:42:36.340] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000427)  
yung possible,

**[00:42:37.880] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000428)  
yung paglabag po sa aspeto

**[00:42:40.280] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000429)  
na yun na may nalabag siyang

**[00:42:42.280] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000430)  
aspect sa

**[00:42:44.180] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000431)  
data privacy law.

**[00:42:46.680] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000432)  
Yung contentious,

**[00:42:48.640] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000433)  
yung sagutan po na yun

**[00:42:50.060] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000434)  
ay kasama po sa investigation.

**[00:42:52.460] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000435)  
Kung possible,

**[00:42:53.020] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000436)  
na meron siyang nalabag

**[00:42:54.940] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000437)  
sa aspetong ito.

**[00:42:57.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000438)  
Okay.

**[00:42:58.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000439)  
And by the way, the issue here is

**[00:43:01.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000440)  
riding without a helmet.

**[00:43:02.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000441)  
So, yung

**[00:43:03.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000442)  
usapin na yun ay wala namang

**[00:43:06.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000443)  
nagko-contest

**[00:43:08.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000444)  
sa usapin na yun.

**[00:43:11.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000445)  
Okay.

**[00:43:13.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000446)  
Next.

**[00:43:14.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000447)  
Next slide.

**[00:43:16.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000448)  
Meron pa po ba?

**[00:43:19.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000449)  
Okay. Now,

**[00:43:20.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000450)  
why are we raising this

**[00:43:22.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000451)  
issue? Hindi lang po dahil

**[00:43:24.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000452)  
teacher ang

**[00:43:26.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000453)  
subject ng

**[00:43:28.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000454)  
video in the incident

**[00:43:30.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000455)  
at

**[00:43:32.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000456)  
siya mismo nagsabi na feeling niya

**[00:43:36.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000457)  
nalabag ang kanyang right to privacy

**[00:43:39.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000458)  
at siya rin na nagsabi na kahit

**[00:43:41.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000459)  
blurred yung video, lahat naman

**[00:43:42.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000460)  
ang buong school niya

**[00:43:44.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000461)  
at yung kanyang community, nakilala naman

**[00:43:46.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000462)  
kagad kung sino siya.

**[00:43:48.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000463)  
Kaya nga, sinabi rin ng National Privacy

**[00:43:50.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000464)  
Commission at saka ng Commission

**[00:43:52.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000465)  
on Human Rights, blurring

**[00:43:54.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000466)  
by itself is not

**[00:43:56.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000467)  
sufficient protection

**[00:43:58.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000468)  
of the right

**[00:44:00.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000469)  
to privacy kung

**[00:44:02.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000470)  
makikilala ka pa rin naman.

**[00:44:05.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000471)  
Diba? So, hindi po

**[00:44:06.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000472)  
nakasasapat. Yun ang paalala

**[00:44:08.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000473)  
ng National Privacy Commission.

**[00:44:10.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000474)  
Hindi nakasasapat pagka

**[00:44:12.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000475)  
blurred.

**[00:44:14.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000476)  
Hindi ibig sabihin nun, nag-comply na

**[00:44:16.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000477)  
sa protection of data

**[00:44:18.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000478)  
privacy. Okay.

**[00:44:20.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000479)  
However, ang issue rito is more

**[00:44:22.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000480)  
than just this incident, no?

**[00:44:24.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000481)  
Yung viral, naging

**[00:44:26.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000482)  
viral yung insidente dahil

**[00:44:28.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000483)  
very contentious,

**[00:44:30.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000484)  
no? At

**[00:44:32.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000485)  
pwede natin sabihin, divided

**[00:44:34.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000486)  
yung based on the reactions

**[00:44:36.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000487)  
on the video,

**[00:44:38.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000488)  
very contentious.

**[00:44:40.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000489)  
May mga iba nagsabi, eh nilabag naman

**[00:44:42.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000490)  
talaga niya eh. Ganon.

**[00:44:44.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000491)  
Iba, nagsabi, hindi naman yan ang issue.

**[00:44:46.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000492)  
Ang issue dito

**[00:44:48.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000493)  
ay maraming

**[00:44:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000494)  
naglabas ng

**[00:44:52.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000495)  
kanilang pagtingin.

**[00:44:54.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000496)  
Yung iba, sama ng loob na

**[00:44:56.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000497)  
hindi lang naman ito

**[00:44:58.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000498)  
isolated incident.

**[00:45:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000499)  
Kung hindi, previously ay maraming mga insidente na involved si Mr. Go na ganyan.

**[00:45:10.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000500)  
Na may sisitahin for some violation or other, tapos gagawing content sa vlog,

**[00:45:20.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000501)  
parang ginagawang sa ating salita, parang ordinaryong salita, sinasampulan.

**[00:45:28.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000502)  
Ganon, di ba? Ginagawang example para maging aral sa iba.

**[00:45:34.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000503)  
At dahil doon, napapahiya. Di ba? Na hindi naman necessary.

**[00:45:39.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000504)  
Ang sinasabi ng iba, may paglabag, sitahin mo, bigyan mo ng ticket, tapos na.

**[00:45:46.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000505)  
Hindi yung sitahin mo, bigyan mo ng ticket, gagawing kang content,

**[00:45:50.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000506)  
papapanood ka ng milyong-milyong tao habang pinapangaralan ka

**[00:45:55.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000507)  
at minsan, in a humiliating manner.

**[00:46:00.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000508)  
So yun po yung issue.

**[00:46:01.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000509)  
Therefore, ang issue po natin dito, yung social media policy ng MMDA.

**[00:46:09.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000510)  
At yun nga, kaya tayo nag-interpolate dahil confusing po yung public statements ng MMDA.

**[00:46:18.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000511)  
Parang contradictory.

**[00:46:19.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000512)  
Contradictory.

**[00:46:21.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000513)  
This is not...

**[00:46:25.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000514)  
May gusto po kayong sabihin.

**[00:46:26.900] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000515)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[00:46:31.360] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000516)  
institutional practice naman po ng MMDA, yung kailangan din sila mag-recording for,

**[00:46:39.520] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000517)  
may record sila ng traffic law enforcement, traffic monitoring,

**[00:46:45.000] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000518)  
ginagawa naman po nila rin for record purposes.

**[00:46:47.940] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000519)  
However, minsan talaga nag-go-go over, beyond doon, dahil sinishare ng iba,

**[00:46:55.220] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000520)  
in this case, si Clearing Ops, Gabriel Goh, maaaring na ilagay niya yun sa kanyang personal vlog.

**[00:47:05.240] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000521)  
Dito ho, again, nandito ho siya iniimbestigahan ngayon, tinitingnan nga po kung maaaring lumabag ho siya doon sa data privacy law.

**[00:47:17.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000522)  
Okay.

**[00:47:18.300] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000523)  
Your Honor.

**[00:47:18.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000524)  
Hindi po ba the previous year, nagkaroon na po ng insidente involving Goh?

**[00:47:25.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000525)  
And a certain police officer.

**[00:47:29.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000526)  
Tama po ba na merong ganong insidente?

**[00:47:33.280] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000527)  
Yes, Your Honor.

**[00:47:35.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000528)  
And after that, may pahayag po si Chairman Artes na nakikita ko dyan, sabi niya,

**[00:47:41.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000529)  
may policy na raw ang MMDA, bawal!

**[00:47:46.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000530)  
Ang personal, ang uploading of...

**[00:47:52.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000531)  
Paano nga ba yun?

**[00:47:54.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000532)  
Good.

**[00:47:55.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000533)  
Could we clarify from the MMDA, ano ba yung exactly yung in-issue nila na policy after that 2025 incident?

**[00:48:04.680] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000534)  
Your Honor, institutional recording po sana yung ginawa, for recording purposes po ng MMDA.

**[00:48:13.540] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000535)  
So, gaya po nang sinabi ko, kasalukuyan po siyang iniimbestigahan ngayon, kung posibleng nga meron siyang, he went overboard in that aspect po.

**[00:48:24.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000536)  
Opo.

**[00:48:24.680] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000537)  
Kaya, kung meron man siyang violation sa data privacy, yun po yung, we are still awaiting that investigation as of now, Your Honor.

**[00:48:32.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000538)  
Okay.

**[00:48:33.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000539)  
In a press conference, ito po sinabi niya, quote, ipagbabawal natin yung mga personal posts about operations.

**[00:48:41.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000540)  
Gagawin namin ay institutional.

**[00:48:43.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000541)  
MMDA na lang magpopost ng clearing operations natin, whether pictures or video.

**[00:48:50.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000542)  
Photos and videos of operations shall be posted by its public...

**[00:48:54.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000543)  
Public Information Office via Facebook, X, Instagram, etc.

**[00:49:00.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000544)  
Sabi niya, napirman ko na actually yung regulation regarding pagpopost ng actual na trabaho.

**[00:49:08.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000545)  
Ano po yung regulation na binabanggit ni Chairman Artes?

**[00:49:16.060] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000546)  
Madam Speaker, Your Honor, yun po.

**[00:49:20.080] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000547)  
Kung, inaalam po ngayon kung kunyari may paglabas...

**[00:49:24.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000548)  
Yes, ma'am. Tinatanong lang kung ano yung written regulation, official regulation on social media posting.

**[00:49:37.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000549)  
Dapat institutional.

**[00:49:39.640] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000550)  
Ang pinagbabawal na po ngayon yung pag-share po ng institutional na video.

**[00:49:46.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000551)  
Okay.

**[00:49:46.460] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000552)  
Sorry. Yun po pala yung pwede. Yung pag-share po ng institutional.

**[00:49:51.100] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000553)  
Ang hindi po po pwede, yung sa personal po.

**[00:49:54.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000554)  
Anong gusto po natin malaman, kasi hindi po easily available or accessible,

**[00:50:01.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000555)  
halimbawa sa MMDA website, yung exact memorandum or order containing this policy.

**[00:50:11.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000556)  
Para malinaw po. Ano po yun?

**[00:50:13.280] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000557)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, MMDA will furnish you today...

**[00:50:18.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000558)  
Oh, yes, please.

**[00:50:18.920] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000559)  
...with a complete and a complete copy po of that direct...

**[00:50:24.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000560)  
Yes, please. We will expect it...

**[00:50:26.500] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000561)  
...for clarity.

**[00:50:27.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000562)  
...within the day. Pwede po.

**[00:50:29.040] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000563)  
And also the show-cause order po of...

**[00:50:31.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000564)  
Okay. Thank you. We would appreciate that.

**[00:50:33.800] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000565)  
...of that in that case.

**[00:50:34.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000566)  
Ngayon, okay. So mukhang meron ng standing policy na ganon.

**[00:50:39.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000567)  
Yan ang nililinaw ng MMDA.

**[00:50:40.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000568)  
Pero, days after the incident, certain MMDA officials made seemingly contradictory statements.

**[00:50:51.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000569)  
So, for example, July 20.

**[00:50:54.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000570)  
MMDA General Manager, General Manager niyo po, Nicolás Torre III,

**[00:51:00.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000571)  
mentioned a no-restriction policy to prevent personal blogging using MMDA footage.

**[00:51:11.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000572)  
As long as there's no law being violated, wala kaming restriction na hard and fast rule

**[00:51:17.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000573)  
na ibigay sa mga tao namin na pigilan na huwag niyong i-post ang mga bagay na ginagawa niyo,

**[00:51:23.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000574)  
especially sa mga senior officers.

**[00:51:27.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000575)  
Hindi namin pwedeng gawin kasi part ng trabaho ng MMDA is to educate the people.

**[00:51:33.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000576)  
Mas marami kaming maririch na ito.

**[00:51:36.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000577)  
Mas marami kaming maririch na ito pala.

**[00:51:39.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000578)  
Pag hindi ka nag-helmet, e, violation yan. Ticket mo.

**[00:51:43.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000579)  
So, batay sa statement ng General Manager sa publiko.

**[00:51:52.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000580)  
General Manager.

**[00:51:53.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000581)  
Nicolás Torre.

**[00:51:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000582)  
Eh, sinasabi niya, walang restriction. Pwede namang i-post.

**[00:52:00.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000583)  
Mas maraming maririch.

**[00:52:02.800] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000584)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[00:52:04.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000585)  
So, yun po, kaya po medyo nalilito tayo.

**[00:52:08.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000586)  
Ano ba talaga?

**[00:52:10.760] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000587)  
Miss Distinguished Colleague, we will be honest, MMDA will be honest,

**[00:52:16.660] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000588)  
bago lang ho si General Manager Torre.

**[00:52:20.480] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000589)  
So, hindi ho siya possibly aware.

**[00:52:23.940] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000590)  
Doon sa rule po na yan ng MMDA.

**[00:52:28.820] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000591)  
But we will remind him kapag, and all his employees, kapag kung bumalik man siya after his leave.

**[00:52:39.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000592)  
Okay.

**[00:52:40.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000593)  
However, aside from General Manager Torre, si Chairman Artes din po,

**[00:52:49.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000594)  
meron din mga statement to the effect na after the incident,

**[00:52:53.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000595)  
hindi naman bawal kumuha ng footage in public.

**[00:52:59.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000596)  
So, this was in defense or in reaction to the allegation na

**[00:53:04.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000597)  
binayulate niyo yung data privacy right ng individual.

**[00:53:07.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000598)  
So, could that be explained? Anong explanation po noon?

**[00:53:11.280] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000599)  
Ang, your honor, ang sinabi po ni Chairman, hindi po bawal kumuha kung public place.

**[00:53:18.780] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000600)  
Pero yung pagpo-post po is another matter entirely.

**[00:53:22.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000601)  
Okay.

**[00:53:23.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000602)  
Okay.

**[00:53:24.780] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000603)  
Kaya po, nagkakonsult po sila sa Data Privacy Commission ngayon dahil sa mga ganyang mga insidente po.

**[00:53:32.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000604)  
Okay.

**[00:53:33.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000605)  
Now, so, malinaw ang policy mula 2025 na hindi pwede yung personal vlogging of official MMDA operations, tama po?

**[00:53:45.780] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000606)  
Yes, your honor.

**[00:53:46.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000607)  
So, yung kalakaran ni Mr. Goh na nakikita natin na habang nagkakonsult,

**[00:53:51.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000608)  
Okay.

**[00:53:52.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000609)  
nag-operation siya, meron pang parang private individual yun na sumusunod sa kanya at nag-be-video.

**[00:54:00.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000610)  
Sama po ba?

**[00:54:02.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000611)  
That is not officially sanctioned? Hindi po official na pinahihintulutan?

**[00:54:08.780] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000612)  
Your honor, again, institutional practice po yun.

**[00:54:11.780] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000613)  
Yun po yung record purposes na pinapayaga naman po for law enforcement, traffic violation.

**[00:54:17.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000614)  
Okay.

**[00:54:18.780] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000615)  
So, mayroon talaga ng contention doon sa kung pwede po i-post, saan po yung hanggang saan po yung pagpo-post sa personal vlog po?

**[00:54:28.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000616)  
Okay.

**[00:54:30.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000617)  
The chair of the, the vice chair, sorry, the chair pala, sorry, I see him here.

**[00:54:45.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000618)  
Okay.

**[00:54:46.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000619)  
The chair of the House Committee on Metro Manila Development, Committee on Metro Manila Development, the honorable Dean Asistio, wrote to me, and enclosing a copy of the MMDA's position paper on the MMDA's official response to a copy of the House Resolution.

**[00:55:14.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000620)  
Okay.

**[00:55:15.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000621)  
Of the House Resolution that we filed on this incident.

**[00:55:18.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000622)  
House Resolution 1370.

**[00:55:21.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000623)  
At the reply was in, was signed by, was prepared by and signed by Chairman Artes.

**[00:55:33.780] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-000624)  
Correct.

**[00:55:35.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000625)  
At may mga, sagot po siya doon sa mga tanong, including some of those that you mentioned on the record in this interpolation.

**[00:55:43.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000626)  
Doon na lang po ako sa dulong bahagi.

**[00:55:45.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000627)  
sabi natin, kasi sa resolution sabi natin, may paglabag po,

**[00:55:51.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000628)  
hindi lang si Gabriel Go as an individual, kung hindi,

**[00:55:55.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000629)  
pati yung MMDA, nang pinost nila yung insidente at naging viral ito,

**[00:56:03.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000630)  
despite the statements of the teacher.

**[00:56:07.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000631)  
And let me just go back.

**[00:56:15.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000632)  
Para malagay ko rin on the record, yung sinabi nung teacher mismo na involved.

**[00:56:22.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000633)  
The teacher wrote a letter to the MMDA.

**[00:56:26.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000634)  
So let me just quote,

**[00:56:27.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000635)  
Despite my request, the encounter was later uploaded to social media

**[00:56:32.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000636)  
where it generated widespread public attention

**[00:56:35.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000637)  
and subjected me to embarrassment, ridicule, and public judgment.

**[00:56:41.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000638)  
Unquote.

**[00:56:42.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000639)  
So yun po yung sinabi niya.

**[00:56:43.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000640)  
He also requested the takedown.

**[00:56:45.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000641)  
of the video of his apprehension,

**[00:56:48.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000642)  
along with, quote,

**[00:56:49.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000643)  
any other similar videos that unnecessarily demean individuals

**[00:56:55.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000644)  
or violate their rights to privacy, dignity, and respectful treatment.

**[00:56:59.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000645)  
Unquote.

**[00:57:00.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000646)  
So yun po yung nasa sulat ng teacher na subject nung video na ito.

**[00:57:09.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000647)  
Ngayon, bilang sagot po sa issue na yun,

**[00:57:11.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000648)  
sabi ng MMDA through Chairman Artes,

**[00:57:14.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000649)  
wala pong paglabag.

**[00:57:15.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000650)  
na ginawa ang MMDA as an institution sa data privacy rights ng sinuman.

**[00:57:24.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000651)  
Ang sabi niya rito,

**[00:57:27.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000652)  
Ang sabi po rito, and this is where I want clarification,

**[00:57:39.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000653)  
the MMDA categorically denies that it has consented to,

**[00:57:45.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000654)  
or allowed Mr. Goh to videotape any valid MMDA clearing operation.

**[00:57:53.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000655)  
And let me quote further,

**[00:58:02.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000656)  
the MMDA has not legitimized or planned to legitimize

**[00:58:07.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000657)  
any of the online MMDA-related content

**[00:58:12.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000658)  
published by the said

**[00:58:15.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000659)  
Dada Ku channel.

**[00:58:20.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000661)  
Earlier, it was mentioned,

**[00:58:22.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000662)  
in fact, the videos were uploaded onto the channel of a certain Dada Ku,

**[00:58:27.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000663)  
D-A-D-A, and then K-O-O,

**[00:58:31.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000664)  
a channel that is neither connected nor authorized by the MMDA

**[00:58:35.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000665)  
to upload such footage.

**[00:58:38.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000666)  
So, parang ang sinasabi po,

**[00:58:41.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000667)  
na yung video na yun,

**[00:58:43.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000668)  
kinuha at in-upload sa isang

**[00:58:45.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000669)  
private channel called Dada

**[00:58:47.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000670)  
Ku. Yes.

**[00:58:49.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000671)  
And therefore,

**[00:58:51.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000672)  
walang sabit

**[00:58:53.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000673)  
ang MMDA. Tama po ba?

**[00:58:56.600] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000674)  
Yes, the Honorable

**[00:58:57.660] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000675)  
Representative Tino, it is a

**[00:58:59.880] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000676)  
private channel,

**[00:59:01.440] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000677)  
it is a channel of a private

**[00:59:03.940] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000678)  
person, and thus

**[00:59:05.700] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000679)  
the MMDA will really have no control

**[00:59:08.060] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000680)  
over the said private channel.

**[00:59:10.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000681)  
However,

**[00:59:11.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000682)  
however,

**[00:59:13.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000683)  
kung babalik natin yung

**[00:59:15.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000684)  
video kanina,

**[00:59:17.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000685)  
yung video na nag-viral po,

**[00:59:20.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000686)  
a screenshot of which,

**[00:59:22.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000687)  
yan,

**[00:59:23.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000688)  
yung video na yan, yan po nag-viral na yan,

**[00:59:27.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000689)  
it is on

**[00:59:27.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000690)  
the MMDA page,

**[00:59:29.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000691)  
on the MMDA Facebook

**[00:59:31.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000692)  
page.

**[00:59:36.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000693)  
Hanggang ngayon,

**[00:59:37.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000694)  
nandun pa rin po.

**[00:59:39.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000695)  
Kagabi lang,

**[00:59:40.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000696)  
chinek namin, and it is

**[00:59:42.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000697)  
on the July 14,

**[00:59:45.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000698)  
post, one of the

**[00:59:47.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000699)  
posts on July 14

**[00:59:49.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000700)  
of the MMDA page

**[00:59:51.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000701)  
itself. So, in other words,

**[00:59:55.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000702)  
institutional posting

**[00:59:57.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000703)  
po ito. Hindi po ba?

**[01:00:00.000] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000704)  
Yes. The said post is indeed institutional because it is part of the reporting of the institution to the public about clearing operations.

**[01:00:11.740] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000705)  
But the video will not be found anywhere in that Facebook page of the institution.

**[01:00:18.260] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000706)  
That video, that very video, no, it's not a picture.

**[01:00:22.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000707)  
It's not a picture. It's the post itself.

**[01:00:27.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000708)  
No? Pakicheck nyo na lang po. Facebook account nyo yan.

**[01:00:35.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000709)  
I'm sure one of your social media persons will be able to confirm this.

**[01:00:43.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000710)  
Hinanap po namin sa MMDA Facebook page.

**[01:00:47.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000711)  
At yung video mismo ng insidente na yun ay nananatili pa rin sa Facebook account.

**[01:00:56.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000712)  
Video po yan.

**[01:00:57.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000713)  
Yes.

**[01:00:57.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000714)  
I-winshot lang namin yun. Ayaw na namin i-play dito yung video.

**[01:01:01.840] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000715)  
Yes, the Honorable Tino. So the chairman is now double-checking and making sure.

**[01:01:07.420] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000716)  
And if such is the case, of course, this will be brought down right away.

**[01:01:12.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000717)  
Okay. Well, yun na nga po.

**[01:01:14.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000718)  
So, at least nalinaw na natin yung policy.

**[01:01:20.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000719)  
So may malinaw na policy po talaga.

**[01:01:23.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000720)  
Yung mga operatives ng MMDA may document, may use video to document.

**[01:01:27.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000721)  
The incidents.

**[01:01:30.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000722)  
Pero, no posting to personal logs or accounts.

**[01:01:37.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000723)  
Pwede ang institutional posting.

**[01:01:39.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000724)  
Okay, that's clear.

**[01:01:41.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000725)  
And Mr. Goh is suspended from field operations.

**[01:01:46.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000726)  
He is currently in the HQ, I suppose.

**[01:01:50.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000727)  
And he is undergoing certain administrative...

**[01:01:56.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000728)  
administrative...

**[01:01:57.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000729)  
cases or facing certain administrative cases related to the social media issue.

**[01:02:05.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000730)  
So, klaro na po yun.

**[01:02:07.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000731)  
Now, ang isang issue ko na lang po ay sa kabila nung policy ng MMDA

**[01:02:13.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000732)  
at yung pagkilala nila na dapat i-respeto ang right to privacy ng mga individual.

**[01:02:23.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000733)  
Kahit pa sabihin mong violator, yes, violator.

**[01:02:25.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000734)  
Pero may right to privacy.

**[01:02:27.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000735)  
Pa rin ang mga ito.

**[01:02:29.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000736)  
No?

**[01:02:30.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000737)  
So, unfortunately, ang nakita po natin,

**[01:02:35.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000738)  
that very same video still remains on the website.

**[01:02:40.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000739)  
And, as has been pointed out by several institutions,

**[01:02:48.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000740)  
notably the National Privacy Commission and the Commission on Human Rights,

**[01:02:54.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000741)  
kahit po nakablur yung mukha niya,

**[01:02:57.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000742)  
eh yung kanyang komunidad, madali siyang makikilala.

**[01:03:02.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000743)  
Therefore, may paglabag sa rights, sa privacy rights ng individual.

**[01:03:09.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000744)  
Dahil, hindi naman kailangang mapahiya ka sa madla

**[01:03:16.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000745)  
para lang masita ka at managot sa iyong paglabag na nagmotor ka ng walang helmet.

**[01:03:24.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000746)  
Natutuon namang paglabag.

**[01:03:25.980] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000747)  
Yes.

**[01:03:26.620] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000748)  
Yes, the Honorable Madam Speaker.

**[01:03:28.980] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000749)  
Yes, the Honorable Tino.

**[01:03:30.740] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000750)  
And for this, the institution apologizes deeply

**[01:03:34.160] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000751)  
and ensures that all measures will be taken

**[01:03:38.260] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000752)  
so none of the same incident will be repeated.

**[01:03:41.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000753)  
Okay.

**[01:03:43.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000754)  
Maraming salamat po dun sa apology.

**[01:03:44.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000755)  
The apology is for the teacher, of course.

**[01:03:48.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000756)  
Pero para na rin po sana dun sa marami pang mga individual

**[01:03:53.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000757)  
na ginawang sample sa page ng...

**[01:03:56.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000758)  
MMDA

**[01:03:59.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000759)  
without their consent.

**[01:04:02.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000760)  
So siguro ganoon ang policy.

**[01:04:03.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000761)  
Kung gusto nyo magkaroon ng lesson for others,

**[01:04:07.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000762)  
kailangan naman pumayag yung subject.

**[01:04:10.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000763)  
Pag sinabi nung subject, katulad nung teacher,

**[01:04:13.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000764)  
Sir, pwede po ba, huwag nyo ng ano?

**[01:04:16.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000765)  
E di hindi pwede.

**[01:04:17.420] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000766)  
Yes, the Honorable Tino.

**[01:04:18.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000767)  
Kano lang naman po kasimple yun, di ba?

**[01:04:20.460] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000768)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[01:04:21.600] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000769)  
This will be taken into consideration

**[01:04:23.520] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000770)  
and as mentioned earlier,

**[01:04:25.680] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000771)  
all these guidelines will again be brought down

**[01:04:30.180] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000772)  
and all employees will be reminded of such.

**[01:04:33.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000773)  
And hopefully the general manager of MMDA

**[01:04:36.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000774)  
will now become more familiar with the policies

**[01:04:41.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000775)  
including the social media policies of his own institution.

**[01:04:46.840] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000776)  
Yes, Sir Honorable Tino, Madam Speaker.

**[01:04:49.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000777)  
So with that, Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po.

**[01:04:52.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000778)  
Thank you to the MDA for this important clarification.

**[01:04:55.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000779)  
I have no more questions, Madam Speaker. And

**[01:05:05.280] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000780)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[01:05:08.520] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000781)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:05:10.360] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000782)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:05:11.940] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000783)  
I move to recognize the Honorable Bong Suntay

**[01:05:17.360] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000784)  
from Quezon City to interpellate the proposed budget.

**[01:05:22.600] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000785)  
A representative of the 4th District of Quezon City,

**[01:05:25.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000786)  
Representative Bong Suntay is now recognized for his interpellation.

**[01:05:29.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-000787)  
Thank you.

**[01:05:29.580] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-000788)  
Madam Speaker, there being no other members of the minority

**[01:05:32.860] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-000789)  
who wishes to interpolate,

**[01:05:34.400] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-000790)  
I move that we terminate the period of interpolation

**[01:05:37.320] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-000791)  
on the part of the minority.

**[01:05:38.680] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000792)  
What does the House say?

**[01:05:40.340] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000793)  
Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority,

**[01:05:42.280] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000794)  
we join the minority in the motion to terminate

**[01:05:44.580] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000795)  
the period of interpolations on the proposed budget of the MMDA.

**[01:05:48.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000796)  
There is a joint motion to terminate interpolations

**[01:05:50.860] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000797)  
on the proposed budget of the Metropolitan Manila,

**[01:05:55.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000798)  
Development Authority.

**[01:05:56.640] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000799)  
Is there any objection?

**[01:05:57.880] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000800)  
The Chair hears none.

**[01:05:59.320] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000801)  
The interpolations on the proposed budget of said agency

**[01:06:02.260] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000802)  
is hereby terminated.

**[01:06:03.800] Rep. Monique Yazmin Maria Q. Lagdameo** (asr-000803)  
Thank you again, Madam Speaker.

**[01:06:05.560] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000804)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:06:08.020] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000805)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:06:08.660] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000806)  
I move to consider the proposed budget

**[01:06:11.000] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000807)  
of the Department of Justice and its attached agencies.

**[01:06:15.140] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000808)  
Is there any objection?

**[01:06:16.800] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000809)  
The Chair hears none.

**[01:06:17.880] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000810)  
The motion is approved.

**[01:06:19.460] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000811)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:06:20.960] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000812)  
Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials

**[01:06:23.520] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000813)  
of the Department of Justice,

**[01:06:25.160] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000814)  
and attached agencies.

**[01:06:27.080] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000815)  
Secretary Fredderick A. Vida,

**[01:06:29.180] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000816)  
Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez,

**[01:06:31.800] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000817)  
Undersecretary Deo L. Marco,

**[01:06:34.260] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000818)  
Undersecretary Nicholas Felix L. Ty,

**[01:06:37.200] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000819)  
Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong,

**[01:06:42.960] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000820)  
Undersecretary Ian Norman E. Dato,

**[01:06:46.340] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000821)  
Undersecretary Garney M. Candelaria,

**[01:06:49.840] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000822)  
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony D. Fadullon,

**[01:06:52.820] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000823)  
Chief State Counsel Dennis Arvin L. Chan,

**[01:06:55.980] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000825)  
Director General Gregorio P. O. Catapang, Jr.,

**[01:06:59.560] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000826)  
Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado,

**[01:07:02.340] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000827)  
Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios,

**[01:07:06.300] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000828)  
Director Melvin A. Matibag,

**[01:07:08.720] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000829)  
Executive Director Jose Maria R. Palaganas,

**[01:07:16.660] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000830)  
Government Corporate Counsel Solomon M. Hermosura,

**[01:07:21.020] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000831)  
Solicitor General Darlene Marie Berberabe,

**[01:07:26.640] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000832)  
OIC Administrator Wilson R. Suba,

**[01:07:29.840] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000833)  
Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang,

**[01:07:34.320] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000834)  
and Chief Public Attorney Persida V. Rueda Acosta.

**[01:07:39.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000835)  
We acknowledge the presence of the officials from the Department of Justice and its attached agencies.

**[01:07:45.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000836)  
I was a sponsor of their budget during the 16th Congress.

**[01:07:51.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000837)  
Welcome to the House of Representatives.

**[01:07:53.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000838)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:07:56.160] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000839)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate.

**[01:08:00.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000840)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none.

**[01:08:02.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000841)  
The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

**[01:08:07.160] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000842)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the honorable Vice Chairperson Keith Micah,

**[01:08:15.160] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000843)  
Attorney Mike D. L. Tan of the Committee of Appropriations,

**[01:08:20.160] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000844)  
to sponsor the proposed budget of the Department of Justice.

**[01:08:24.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000845)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none.

**[01:08:27.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000846)  
Representative Attorney Mike Tan is hereby recognized to begin the sponsorship of the budget of the Department of Justice and its attached agencies.

**[01:08:38.810] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000847)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues, good morning po sa ating lahat.

**[01:08:45.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000848)  
It is my honor to sponsor the budget of the DOJ, including its attached agencies,

**[01:08:49.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000849)  
for fiscal year 2027, amounting to 46.435 billion pesos, inclusive of the automatic appropriations.

**[01:08:58.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000850)  
In terms of new appropriations, which is subject for congressional approval,

**[01:09:04.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000851)  
the total budget of the DOJ amounts to 43.305 billion pesos,

**[01:09:10.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000852)  
which represents an increase of about 1.13 percent, or 485.028 million pesos higher,

**[01:09:18.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000853)  
than the fiscal year 2026 level of 42.820 billion pesos.

**[01:09:26.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000854)  
The proposed 46.435 billion pesos budget is broken down by agency as follows.

**[01:09:34.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000855)  
Office of the Secretary, 13.930 billion pesos.

**[01:09:38.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000856)  
Bureau of Corrections, 11.932 billion pesos.

**[01:09:42.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000857)  
Bureau of Immigration, 2.980 billion pesos.

**[01:09:47.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000858)  
Land Registration Authority, 3.279 billion pesos.

**[01:09:51.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000859)  
NBI, 3.027 billion pesos.

**[01:09:56.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000860)  
Office of Alternative Dispute Resolution, 138.756 million pesos.

**[01:10:03.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000861)  
Office of the Government Corporate Counsel, 310.168 million pesos.

**[01:10:08.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000862)  
Office of the Solicitor General, 2.142 billion pesos.

**[01:10:12.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000863)  
Parole and Probation Administration, 1.254 billion pesos.

**[01:10:15.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000864)  
Philippine Commission on Good Government, 338.676 million pesos.

**[01:10:25.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000865)  
And the Public Attorney's Office, amounting to 7.101 billion pesos.

**[01:10:31.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000866)  
This budget will support the department's programs, projects, and its operation

**[01:10:35.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000867)  
for the effective, efficient, and equitable administration of justice.

**[01:10:39.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000868)  
DOJ, being the government's principal law agency, serves as the government's prosecution arm

**[01:10:45.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000869)  
and administers the government's criminal justice system

**[01:10:50.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000870)  
by investigating crimes, prosecuting offenders, and overseeing the correctional system.

**[01:10:55.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000871)  
It is also the government's legal counsel and representative in litigations and proceedings

**[01:11:00.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000872)  
requiring the services of a lawyer.

**[01:11:03.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000873)  
It implements the Philippine laws on the admission and stay of aliens within the territory

**[01:11:08.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000874)  
and provides free legal services to indigent and other qualified citizens.

**[01:11:15.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000875)  
With its many responsibilities, the proposed budget is essential in ensuring

**[01:11:20.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000876)  
that the DOJ and its attached agencies have the personnel, facilities, technology, and operational resources

**[01:11:26.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000877)  
they need in order to effectively fulfill their respective mandates.

**[01:11:30.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000878)  
This will allow the department to strengthen its services, improve the efficiency of case management and prosecution,

**[01:11:37.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000879)  
modernize its systems, enhance our correctional and rehabilitation programs,

**[01:11:42.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000880)  
continued access to legal assistance,

**[01:11:45.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000881)  
and strengthen its capacity to address emerging challenges in law enforcement and border security.

**[01:11:51.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000882)  
This will ultimately translate into a justice system that is more accessible, efficient,

**[01:11:56.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000883)  
meaningful, and responsive to the Filipino people.

**[01:11:59.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000884)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[01:12:01.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000885)  
The representation is now ready to answer questions from our colleagues.

**[01:12:05.080] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000886)  
Majority Leader?

**[01:12:07.160] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000887)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley de Jesus

**[01:12:12.160] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000888)  
from PHILRECA Party-list to interpellate

**[01:12:14.160] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-000889)  
on the proposed budget of the Department of Justice.

**[01:12:17.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000890)  
Representative Presley de Jesus of PHILRECA Party-list

**[01:12:20.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000891)  
is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[01:12:23.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000892)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[01:12:25.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000893)  
May the distinguished sponsor yield some questions from this representation?

**[01:12:31.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000894)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[01:12:32.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000895)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor.

**[01:12:37.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000896)  
This is with regard with the border system modernization and safeguards

**[01:12:42.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000897)  
against irregular departures.

**[01:12:45.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000898)  
The Bureau of Immigration's project for enhancement of its border management information system

**[01:12:51.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000899)  
received approximately 3.8 billion in 2025,

**[01:12:57.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000900)  
but recorded only 103.3 million in disbursement, or 2.7 percent.

**[01:13:05.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000901)  
Question.

**[01:13:07.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000902)  
What is the current implementation status of the border management

**[01:13:12.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000903)  
modernization project,

**[01:13:14.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000904)  
and which deliverables are already operational?

**[01:13:20.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000905)  
Thank you for that question, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[01:13:25.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000906)  
So, for the E-gate project, there is a delay in the implementation.

**[01:13:32.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000907)  
The E-gate project is implemented in three phases.

**[01:13:36.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000908)  
The amount

**[01:13:38.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000909)  
told by our distinguished colleague is roughly

**[01:13:41.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000910)  
accurate, the phase 1 project

**[01:13:44.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000911)  
under GAAT 2024

**[01:13:46.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000912)  
was already awarded

**[01:13:48.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000913)  
only on December

**[01:13:49.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000914)  
18, 2025.

**[01:13:51.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000915)  
And it's already ongoing

**[01:13:53.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000916)  
deployment to Clark

**[01:13:56.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000917)  
International Airport, Mactan-Sebu

**[01:13:57.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000918)  
International Airport, Davao

**[01:13:59.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000919)  
International Airport, Bohol-Pangalaw

**[01:14:02.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000920)  
International Airport.

**[01:14:05.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000921)  
The implementation

**[01:14:07.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000922)  
schedule was affected by circumstances

**[01:14:10.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000923)  
beyond the Bureau's

**[01:14:12.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000924)  
control. Phase 1, funded

**[01:14:14.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000925)  
under the GAAT 2024

**[01:14:16.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000926)  
was timely

**[01:14:18.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000927)  
subjected to a competitive bidding

**[01:14:20.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000928)  
but there was a failure

**[01:14:22.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000929)  
of bidding.

**[01:14:25.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000930)  
Necessitating a

**[01:14:26.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000931)  
re-bidding process but during the re-bidding

**[01:14:28.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000932)  
nagkaroon po ng donation ang

**[01:14:30.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000933)  
UNIA

**[01:14:30.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000934)  
incorporated ng mga

**[01:14:34.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000935)  
e-gates. Kaya

**[01:14:36.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000936)  
kinailangan pong mag-amend po ulit

**[01:14:38.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000937)  
sila ng kanilang bidding

**[01:14:40.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000938)  
process.

**[01:14:40.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000939)  
Kasi na-cover na po yung ibang

**[01:14:42.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000940)  
e-gates na ilalagay.

**[01:14:44.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000941)  
So ngayon po,

**[01:14:47.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000942)  
yung phase 1 po ay

**[01:14:48.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000943)  
ongoing na po. Total of

**[01:14:50.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000944)  
47 e-gates po yung

**[01:14:52.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000945)  
ilalagay sa iba't

**[01:14:54.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000946)  
ibang airport po na nabanggit

**[01:14:56.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000947)  
ng representasyong ito.

**[01:14:58.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000948)  
Ang phase 2 po,

**[01:15:00.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000949)  
ay already undergoing procurement process.

**[01:15:05.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000950)  
Ito po yung underga at 2025.

**[01:15:08.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000951)  
So meron pong mga scheduled dates na po

**[01:15:11.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000952)  
ng advertisement, pre-bid conference,

**[01:15:13.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000953)  
bid submission and opening,

**[01:15:15.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000954)  
bid evaluation and post-qualification.

**[01:15:18.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000955)  
Yung phase 3 na lang po yung gagawin pa po yung

**[01:15:20.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000956)  
technical specifications,

**[01:15:23.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000957)  
Madam Speaker and Distinguished Colleague.

**[01:15:25.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000958)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Postal.

**[01:15:27.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000959)  
So in short, itong 3.8 billion natin noong 2025

**[01:15:31.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000960)  
will be implemented this year?

**[01:15:34.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000961)  
That's what the Bureau of Immigration is going for.

**[01:15:37.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000962)  
Yung phase 1 and phase 2 po,

**[01:15:39.720] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000963)  
at least for this year po ma-obligate po

**[01:15:42.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000964)  
ng atin pong Bureau of Immigration.

**[01:15:44.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000965)  
So what will happen kung hindi nyo ma-implement

**[01:15:45.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000966)  
2026, the rest of the 3.8 billion?

**[01:15:49.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000967)  
Will it be carried over ngayon 2027?

**[01:15:52.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000968)  
Will that be allowed?

**[01:15:53.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000969)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:15:54.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000970)  
Yung phase 3 na wala pa pong

**[01:15:57.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000971)  
technical specifications,

**[01:15:58.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000972)  
it will be carried over.

**[01:15:59.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000973)  
Pero sinusubukan pa rin po ng

**[01:16:01.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000974)  
Bureau of Immigration na

**[01:16:03.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000975)  
mapadali po yung

**[01:16:04.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000976)  
kanilang proseso ng procurement po.

**[01:16:07.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000977)  
Thank you.

**[01:16:07.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000978)  
The reason why I asked that question eh,

**[01:16:09.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000979)  
because it's so important

**[01:16:11.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000980)  
with regard to our border system,

**[01:16:12.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000981)  
modernization, kaya

**[01:16:14.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000982)  
gusto ko rin malaman kung talagang

**[01:16:16.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000983)  
ito yung natutugunan ng ating ahensya.

**[01:16:21.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000984)  
Kung hindi, pwede tayo siguro

**[01:16:22.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000985)  
humihingi pa rin ng tulong, no?

**[01:16:23.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000986)  
But again, thank you for that

**[01:16:25.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000987)  
candid answer.

**[01:16:27.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000988)  
Madam Speaker, and of course,

**[01:16:29.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000989)  
this is your sponsor.

**[01:16:30.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000990)  
My follow-up question,

**[01:16:31.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000991)  
which airports, seaports, and other

**[01:16:34.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000992)  
authorized entry and exit points

**[01:16:37.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000993)  
remain outside the upgraded system?

**[01:16:40.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000994)  
Meron pa ba tayo hindi kasama

**[01:16:42.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000995)  
sa minensyon nyo?

**[01:16:44.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000996)  
So yung nabanggit ko po,

**[01:16:47.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000997)  
yung ongoing deployment,

**[01:16:50.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000998)  
ito po talaga yung kailangan ng

**[01:16:52.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-000999)  
mga e-gates.

**[01:16:53.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001000)  
Ito po yung Clark International Airport,

**[01:16:55.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001001)  
Mactan Cebu International Airport,

**[01:16:57.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001002)  
Davao International Airport,

**[01:16:59.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001003)  
and yung Panglao.

**[01:17:01.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001004)  
Bohol-Panglao International Airport.

**[01:17:03.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001005)  
Ito po yung kailangan pa pong lagyan.

**[01:17:05.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001006)  
Yun po yung tinutugunan ng

**[01:17:07.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001007)  
Bureau of Immigration ngayon na

**[01:17:09.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001008)  
malagyan po this year o

**[01:17:13.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001009)  
ma-deploy po nila yung mga e-gates this year.

**[01:17:15.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001010)  
So, in short, Madam Speaker,

**[01:17:17.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001011)  
this is your sponsor kasi sa

**[01:17:19.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001012)  
2027 budget nyo kasama itong tatlong

**[01:17:21.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001013)  
mention na seaport and airport.

**[01:17:23.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001014)  
Would that be part of that?

**[01:17:25.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001015)  
Yes, po.

**[01:17:26.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001016)  
Actually, kasama na po siya sa

**[01:17:27.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001017)  
2025, 2026.

**[01:17:31.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001018)  
Yun na lang po, implementation na lang po

**[01:17:33.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001019)  
yung hinihintay po natin.

**[01:17:35.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001020)  
Madam Speaker, this issue.

**[01:17:37.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001021)  
So, hindi pa napapabid dyan?

**[01:17:39.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001022)  
Napabid na po.

**[01:17:41.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001023)  
Ang deliverables po, ang alam ko po ay

**[01:17:43.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001024)  
by December 2026, madeliver na po lahat.

**[01:17:45.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001025)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[01:17:47.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001026)  
Distinguished sponsor.

**[01:17:49.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001027)  
My follow up question,

**[01:17:51.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001028)  
how quickly are valid

**[01:17:53.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001029)  
court orders and other

**[01:17:55.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001030)  
legally authorized alerts

**[01:17:57.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001031)  
reflected at immigration

**[01:17:59.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001032)  
counters?

**[01:18:01.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001033)  
Real time ba tayo kapag nag

**[01:18:03.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001034)  
may mga alert tayong ginagawa?

**[01:18:09.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001035)  
Madam Speaker, this issue

**[01:18:11.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001036)  
once na maipadala po

**[01:18:13.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001037)  
yung order, encoded na po

**[01:18:15.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001038)  
agad yun ng Bureau of Immigration.

**[01:18:17.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001039)  
Real time?

**[01:18:19.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001040)  
Once na mapasok agad sa mga

**[01:18:21.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001041)  
immigration counter?

**[01:18:23.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001042)  
Once ma-receive po ng BI.

**[01:18:25.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001043)  
Once ma-receive po ng

**[01:18:27.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001044)  
official na order,

**[01:18:29.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001045)  
once ma-receive po ng Bureau of Immigration,

**[01:18:31.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001046)  
nai-encode na po agad ng Bureau of Immigration.

**[01:18:33.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001047)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker,

**[01:18:35.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001048)  
and of course, distinguished

**[01:18:37.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001049)  
sponsor.

**[01:18:39.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001050)  
How does the Bureau distinguish an alert

**[01:18:41.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001051)  
requiring monitoring from an

**[01:18:43.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001052)  
order legally restricting

**[01:18:45.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001053)  
departure?

**[01:18:49.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001054)  
May I request again?

**[01:18:51.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001055)  
What's the question?

**[01:18:53.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001056)  
How does the Bureau

**[01:18:55.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001057)  
distinguish an alert requiring

**[01:18:57.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001058)  
monitoring from an order

**[01:18:59.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001059)  
legally restricting departure?

**[01:19:23.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001060)  
Madam Speaker, this issue ulit ang

**[01:19:25.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001061)  
pagkakaiba po ng

**[01:19:27.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001062)  
alert order and

**[01:19:29.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001063)  
legally

**[01:19:31.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001064)  
restricting departure.

**[01:19:33.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001065)  
Yung alert order po usually

**[01:19:35.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001066)  
nagnagaling po sa mga warrant of arrest

**[01:19:37.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001067)  
and request by different agencies

**[01:19:39.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001068)  
to implement that

**[01:19:41.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001069)  
alert order.

**[01:19:43.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001070)  
Yung legally restricting

**[01:19:47.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001071)  
departure may come from

**[01:19:49.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001072)  
different factors.

**[01:19:53.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001073)  
Yung alert

**[01:19:57.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001074)  
order po is kapag lalo na po

**[01:19:59.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001075)  
kapag may ongoing

**[01:20:01.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001076)  
investigation po ang

**[01:20:03.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001077)  
ating po ang

**[01:20:05.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001078)  
law enforcement agencies.

**[01:20:07.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001079)  
Distinguished colleague, Madam Speaker.

**[01:20:09.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001080)  
Thank you,

**[01:20:11.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001081)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor.

**[01:20:13.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001082)  
Again, what

**[01:20:15.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001083)  
review mechanism

**[01:20:17.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001084)  
is available to travelers affected

**[01:20:19.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001085)  
by mistaken

**[01:20:21.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001086)  
identity around

**[01:20:23.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001087)  
news alert? Kasi lalo yung

**[01:20:25.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001088)  
magkakapangalan, di ba? Madalas

**[01:20:27.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001089)  
mangyari yan. So ano bang

**[01:20:29.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001090)  
ginagawa natin? Bisa na-hold sila,

**[01:20:31.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001091)  
namimiss nila yung flight nila.

**[01:20:33.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001092)  
Do you have any mechanism

**[01:20:35.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001093)  
or

**[01:20:37.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001094)  
sinusunod tayong

**[01:20:39.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001095)  
mga SOP

**[01:20:41.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001096)  
pag ganyan na mistaken identity

**[01:20:43.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001097)  
lalo pare-pareho ang pangalan?

**[01:20:45.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001098)  
Kasi sa atin, karamihan dito

**[01:20:47.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001099)  
magkakaroon ng same

**[01:20:49.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001100)  
name eh. Juan de la Cruz,

**[01:20:51.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001101)  
Juan Luna,

**[01:20:53.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001102)  
halos pare-pareho ang mga pangalan natin.

**[01:21:29.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001104)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:21:31.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001105)  
distinguished colleague,

**[01:21:33.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001106)  
as per the administrative

**[01:21:35.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001107)  
remedy, more on internal

**[01:21:37.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001108)  
po yung ginagawa po

**[01:21:39.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001109)  
ng ating Bureau of Immigration,

**[01:21:41.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001110)  
yung immigration officer naman po

**[01:21:43.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001111)  
will determine or assess

**[01:21:45.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001112)  
kung siya ba talaga

**[01:21:47.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001113)  
yung taong na doon sa

**[01:21:49.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001114)  
alert order if

**[01:21:51.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001115)  
hindi pa rin po ma-determine ng immigration

**[01:21:53.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001116)  
officer. Tsaka lang po

**[01:21:55.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001117)  
nagre-require yung ating Bureau of Immigration

**[01:21:57.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001118)  
ng

**[01:21:59.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001119)  
clearance

**[01:22:01.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001120)  
from the

**[01:22:03.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001121)  
NBI

**[01:22:05.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001122)  
or any other law enforcement

**[01:22:07.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001123)  
agency na makakatulong po

**[01:22:09.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001124)  
sa pag-identify

**[01:22:11.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001125)  
ng taong ito. Madam Speaker,

**[01:22:13.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001126)  
distinguished colleague. Madam Speaker,

**[01:22:15.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001127)  
distinguished sponsor,

**[01:22:17.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001128)  
is there any instances

**[01:22:19.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001129)  
na nahold natin

**[01:22:21.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001130)  
although it was a mistaken identity?

**[01:22:23.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001131)  
So I'm not blaming

**[01:22:25.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001132)  
the Bureau of Immigration kasi

**[01:22:27.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001133)  
baka nangyayari ito

**[01:22:29.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001134)  
na nami-miss nila yung kanilang

**[01:22:31.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001135)  
flight. Is there any instance

**[01:22:33.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001136)  
nangyari yan?

**[01:22:41.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001137)  
That's possible po because

**[01:22:43.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001138)  
may mga data nga daw pong kulang-kulang

**[01:22:45.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001139)  
yung

**[01:22:47.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001140)  
pag-assess po ng ating mga

**[01:22:49.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001141)  
immigration officer hindi po kompleto.

**[01:22:51.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001142)  
So may mga data nangyayari yan.

**[01:22:53.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001143)  
Is it in your

**[01:22:55.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001144)  
database kung sakali

**[01:22:57.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001145)  
ang pangalan Juan de la Cruz

**[01:22:59.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001146)  
may picture naman siya

**[01:23:01.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001147)  
and then the person with the same name

**[01:23:03.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001148)  
but carrying

**[01:23:05.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001149)  
identification with different

**[01:23:07.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001150)  
face naman, would you allow

**[01:23:09.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001151)  
that or you still have to wait

**[01:23:11.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001152)  
para magkaroon pa rin ng

**[01:23:13.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001153)  
clearance coming from your

**[01:23:15.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001154)  
superior or the head?

**[01:23:21.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001155)  
That's possible po

**[01:23:25.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001156)  
distinguished colleague to help

**[01:23:27.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001157)  
them assess, lalo na po yung ating mga

**[01:23:29.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001158)  
immigration officers para

**[01:23:31.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001159)  
ma-determine po nila yung pagkakakilanlan

**[01:23:33.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001160)  
doon sa taong ngayon

**[01:23:35.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001161)  
and yung

**[01:23:37.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001162)  
Bureau of Immigration naman po ay

**[01:23:39.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001163)  
can also issue

**[01:23:41.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001164)  
a clearance

**[01:23:43.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001165)  
for that person.

**[01:23:47.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001166)  
So

**[01:23:49.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001167)  
dahil po sa mga ganyang instances

**[01:23:51.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001168)  
ang hiling po talaga ng

**[01:23:53.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001169)  
Bureau of Immigration is ma-modernize

**[01:23:55.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001170)  
po yung mga sistema nila para po mas

**[01:23:57.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001171)  
madali po yung counter checking ng ating

**[01:23:59.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001172)  
immigration officers or

**[01:24:01.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001173)  
meron na po talagang sistema

**[01:24:03.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001174)  
na sila na po mismo ang magka-counter check

**[01:24:05.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001175)  
yung ating mga immigration officer

**[01:24:07.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001176)  
magiging pang-verify na

**[01:24:09.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001177)  
lang po kapag hindi po ma-assess ng ating

**[01:24:11.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001178)  
mga sistema.

**[01:24:13.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001179)  
Madam Speaker.

**[01:24:15.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001180)  
Thank you Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker

**[01:24:17.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001181)  
that's the reason why I'm asking this question.

**[01:24:19.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001182)  
Dapat tulungan talaga natin

**[01:24:21.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001183)  
immigration to upgrade

**[01:24:23.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001184)  
yung kanilang sistema

**[01:24:25.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001185)  
yung kanilang modernization.

**[01:24:27.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001186)  
So ako I'm with you

**[01:24:29.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001187)  
for the modernization kasi

**[01:24:31.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001188)  
I think tayo lang, I'm not saying na

**[01:24:33.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001189)  
tayo pinakahuli siguro pero

**[01:24:35.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001190)  
to the developed country talaga

**[01:24:37.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001191)  
nauna sila. They have

**[01:24:39.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001192)  
their database

**[01:24:41.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001193)  
na sama-sama na different

**[01:24:43.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001194)  
agencies na tutulong dyan.

**[01:24:45.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001195)  
Again so much so

**[01:24:47.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001196)  
for that Madam Speaker I move

**[01:24:49.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001197)  
to prison congestion

**[01:24:51.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001198)  
and delayed

**[01:24:53.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001199)  
infrastructures, infrastructure

**[01:24:55.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001200)  
projects. The bureau of

**[01:24:57.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001201)  
corrections, prisoners

**[01:24:59.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001202)  
custody and safe keeping

**[01:25:01.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001203)  
program increases from

**[01:25:03.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001204)  
8.47 billion

**[01:25:05.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001205)  
in 2026

**[01:25:07.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001206)  
to 9.81 billion

**[01:25:09.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001207)  
in 2027.

**[01:25:11.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001208)  
National prisons

**[01:25:13.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001209)  
reported a congestion

**[01:25:15.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001210)  
rate of approximately

**[01:25:17.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001211)  
250% in

**[01:25:19.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001212)  
2025.

**[01:25:21.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001213)  
Eight infrastructure projects

**[01:25:23.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001214)  
worth 2.05

**[01:25:25.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001215)  
billion

**[01:25:27.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001216)  
had exceeded their target

**[01:25:29.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001217)  
completion dates

**[01:25:31.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001218)  
by periods ranging from

**[01:25:33.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001219)  
10 to

**[01:25:35.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001220)  
1,456

**[01:25:37.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001221)  
days. We're talking about

**[01:25:39.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001222)  
almost

**[01:25:41.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001223)  
four years.

**[01:25:43.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001224)  
How many additional

**[01:25:45.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001225)  
usable prison spaces

**[01:25:47.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001226)  
will the proposed

**[01:25:49.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001227)  
2027

**[01:25:51.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001228)  
allocation

**[01:25:53.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001229)  
deliver?

**[01:26:07.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001230)  
For

**[01:26:09.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001231)  
2027

**[01:26:11.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001232)  
yung additional PDL

**[01:26:13.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001233)  
capacity po ng ating mga

**[01:26:15.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001234)  
infrastructure

**[01:26:17.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001235)  
and facilities po ng ating Bureau of

**[01:26:19.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001236)  
Corrections would be

**[01:26:21.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001237)  
6,210 PDL

**[01:26:23.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001238)  
capacity.

**[01:26:29.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001239)  
Madam Speaker this is

**[01:26:31.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001240)  
Can you come again? Ilan yun?

**[01:26:33.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001241)  
Yung additional PDL

**[01:26:35.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001242)  
capacity po ng ating pong

**[01:26:37.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001243)  
tina-target ng ating pong

**[01:26:39.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001244)  
Bureau of Corrections for

**[01:26:41.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001245)  
the year

**[01:26:43.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001246)  
2027 an increase of

**[01:26:45.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001247)  
6,210

**[01:26:47.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001248)  
PDL capacity po for

**[01:26:49.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001249)  
across the

**[01:26:51.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001250)  
penal farms.

**[01:26:53.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001251)  
6,000 capacity natin. Ilang

**[01:26:55.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001252)  
yung cell yun?

**[01:26:57.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001253)  
In one cell ilan ba yung ating

**[01:26:59.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001254)  
prisoner or ating PDL?

**[01:27:01.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001255)  
Anong ratio

**[01:27:03.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001256)  
natin per

**[01:27:05.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001257)  
cell?

**[01:27:23.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001259)  
Madam Speaker this is

**[01:27:25.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001260)  
actually it would depend on the

**[01:27:27.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001261)  
category daw po ng ating pong

**[01:27:29.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001262)  
penal

**[01:27:31.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001263)  
facility kapag maximum

**[01:27:33.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001264)  
po usually 4 lang po yung nasa

**[01:27:35.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001265)  
isang cell. Kapag medium

**[01:27:37.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001266)  
around 15

**[01:27:39.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001267)  
and yung

**[01:27:41.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001268)  
minimum po ay around 20 PDLs

**[01:27:43.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001269)  
po ang kasya sa isang

**[01:27:44.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001270)  
cell.

**[01:27:45.270] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001270-split-2)  
So in short, Madam,

**[01:27:46.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001271)  
it varies.

**[01:27:47.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001272)  
Kumpara, kumpara sa ano, okay.

**[01:27:49.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001273)  
Follow up question. Which delay

**[01:27:53.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001274)  
projects are expected to become

**[01:27:55.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001275)  
operational? Tapos tayo. How does the department

**[01:27:57.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001276)  
intend to achieve

**[01:27:59.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001277)  
its 2027 congestion

**[01:28:01.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001278)  
rate target of

**[01:28:03.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001279)  
160%?

**[01:28:06.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001280)  
So madam

**[01:28:07.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001281)  
Speaker distinguished colleague lahat naman

**[01:28:09.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001282)  
po ng mga facilities na

**[01:28:13.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001283)  
na procure po ng ating pong

**[01:28:15.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001284)  
Bureau of Correction are

**[01:28:17.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001285)  
ongoing. As you

**[01:28:19.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001286)  
said may mga delayed projects.

**[01:28:21.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001287)  
They are already

**[01:28:23.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001288)  
talking about

**[01:28:25.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001289)  
legal actions na pwede po may

**[01:28:27.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001290)  
ano sa ating pong mga contractor dahil

**[01:28:29.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001291)  
po sa delay. Pero yung iba po

**[01:28:31.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001292)  
meron pong

**[01:28:33.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001293)  
ang target date ay

**[01:28:35.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001294)  
December 2026.

**[01:28:37.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001295)  
Ito po yung sa

**[01:28:39.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001296)  
Regional Prison Facility

**[01:28:41.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001297)  
ng Sablayan Prison

**[01:28:43.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001298)  
on June 2027.

**[01:28:45.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001299)  
Yung maximum

**[01:28:47.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001300)  
Prison Facility

**[01:28:49.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001301)  
ng Sablayan Prison.

**[01:28:53.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001302)  
June 2027 rin po ang ating pong

**[01:28:55.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001303)  
Regional Facility

**[01:28:57.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001304)  
ng Iwahig

**[01:28:59.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001305)  
Prison and Penal

**[01:29:01.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001306)  
Farm Puerto Princesa.

**[01:29:03.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001307)  
June 2027 rin po

**[01:29:05.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001308)  
ang target date for

**[01:29:07.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001309)  
Correctional

**[01:29:09.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001310)  
Institute for Women

**[01:29:11.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001311)  
Iwahig Prison.

**[01:29:13.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001312)  
And

**[01:29:15.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001313)  
for December 2026 po

**[01:29:17.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001314)  
yung isang Regional Facility

**[01:29:19.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001315)  
po ng ating pong Iwahig Prison

**[01:29:21.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001316)  
and Penal Farm

**[01:29:23.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001317)  
yung target pong matapos po.

**[01:29:25.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001318)  
So

**[01:29:27.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001319)  
the Bureau of

**[01:29:29.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001320)  
Corrections are

**[01:29:31.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001321)  
acknowledged that they are at delays but they are

**[01:29:33.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001322)  
taking the right steps to

**[01:29:35.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001323)  
na maihabol po yung

**[01:29:37.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001324)  
implementation na to na

**[01:29:39.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001325)  
mapaganda po yung mga facilities.

**[01:29:41.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001326)  
Siyempre may sinusundan rin po tayong mga

**[01:29:43.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001327)  
international standards lalo na po yung

**[01:29:45.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001328)  
karapatat na po ng ating pong mga PDL.

**[01:29:47.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001329)  
Thank you for that answer

**[01:29:49.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001330)  
Madam Speaker.

**[01:29:51.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001331)  
Distinguished Sponsor,

**[01:29:53.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001332)  
even though they are PDLs,

**[01:29:55.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001333)  
we still recognizing their

**[01:29:57.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001334)  
rights.

**[01:29:58.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001335)  
Thank you for that.

**[01:30:00.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001336)  
Yung iwahig, you mentioned iwahig, is that in Palawan ba yan?

**[01:30:04.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001337)  
Yes po.

**[01:30:05.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001338)  
How many hectares ang iwahig natin?

**[01:30:09.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001339)  
32,000 hectares po, Madam Speaker.

**[01:30:12.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001340)  
32,000 hectares, napakalaki pala.

**[01:30:15.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001341)  
Is that considered, please educate me, enlighten me,

**[01:30:19.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001342)  
ito ba considered na maximum friction ba ito?

**[01:30:23.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001343)  
Wala kasi akong idea, so gusto ko lang malaman.

**[01:30:25.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001344)  
Halo-halo na po, Madam Speaker, they're a maximum facility, minimum and medium.

**[01:30:32.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001345)  
Yeah, kasi lagi lang natin narinig yung national belief natin.

**[01:30:36.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001346)  
I-kumpara mo, siguro malayo ang difference nun, no?

**[01:30:40.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001347)  
Can we consider the iwahig na ponduan tas mas marami natin ilagay na tao?

**[01:30:45.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001348)  
Anyway, it's 30,000 hectares pala, napakalaki pala yan.

**[01:30:49.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001349)  
So, karamihan dun, ano ba yung mga convicted natin, mga PDLs, halo-halo rin ba?

**[01:30:54.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001350)  
Halo-halo.

**[01:30:55.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001351)  
Halo na rin po, Madam Speaker.

**[01:31:00.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001352)  
Ang karamihan po dun ay yung mga minimum po na marapit na pong lumabas, Madam Speaker.

**[01:31:09.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001353)  
So, we cannot build more buildings pala dun, no?

**[01:31:11.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001354)  
Kasi karamihan dun, mga minimum lang pala ang ano dun, palabas na.

**[01:31:15.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001355)  
Kasi within NBP, masyado nang, I think, congested tayo dyan eh.

**[01:31:20.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001356)  
So, that's the reason why my next question,

**[01:31:23.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001357)  
na I think it's related, no?

**[01:31:26.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001358)  
When it comes to health facilities natin, no?

**[01:31:30.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001359)  
Kamusta naman yung mga ating mga PDL dun?

**[01:31:34.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001360)  
Maano ba naman sila?

**[01:31:35.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001361)  
There being, ano, yung sakit.

**[01:31:37.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001362)  
Kasi once na nagkasakit, may duma, may bumisita, baka kako mahawa,

**[01:31:42.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001363)  
na lumabas naman.

**[01:31:44.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001364)  
Maayos ba ang kanilang pasilidad dun?

**[01:31:46.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001365)  
When it comes, especially itong mga diseases na pumapasaan.

**[01:31:50.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001366)  
Well, the Bureau.

**[01:31:53.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001367)  
The Bureau of Corrections are trying their best.

**[01:31:55.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001368)  
But since the allowance for PDL is only at 30 pesos,

**[01:32:01.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001369)  
they're barely managing, so that's why nagre-request pa rin po

**[01:32:07.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001370)  
yung ating Bureau of Corrections na medyo mapataas

**[01:32:10.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001371)  
para at least man lang po makalidad yung care na maibigay po sa ating mga PDLs

**[01:32:17.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001372)  
na may binadaing pong mga sakit sa loob po ng ating mga Bureau of Corrections facilities.

**[01:32:23.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001373)  
Madam Speaker.

**[01:32:24.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001374)  
Madam Speaker, you heard it, no?

**[01:32:26.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001375)  
30 pesos per PDL?

**[01:32:30.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001376)  
Yes po, per day.

**[01:32:31.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001377)  
A day, per day.

**[01:32:32.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001378)  
Isipin nyo po, 30 pesos.

**[01:32:35.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001379)  
Halos wala ng value ngayon yan.

**[01:32:36.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001380)  
So ako, Madam Speaker, no?

**[01:32:39.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001381)  
The beautiful speaker natin, Madam Speaker, kailangan tugunan natin ito na dagdagan ang pondo.

**[01:32:46.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001382)  
Nakakawa ang DOJ.

**[01:32:47.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001383)  
Sila ang laging tinatamaan pag nagkakasakit, napapabayaan daw.

**[01:32:51.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001384)  
Pero,

**[01:32:53.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001385)  
with the 30 pesos, talagang masyadong mababa yan.

**[01:32:56.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001386)  
Again,

**[01:32:58.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001387)  
my next question,

**[01:32:59.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001388)  
our personal, what?

**[01:33:01.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001389)  
Personnel.

**[01:33:03.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001390)  
Our personnel, water, sanitation, health facilities, security equipment, and operating expenses

**[01:33:09.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001391)  
funded together with the buildings.

**[01:33:12.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001392)  
Naka-embedded ba yun?

**[01:33:13.920] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001393)  
Pag nagpagawa ng buildings, sama-sama na sila ron?

**[01:33:16.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001394)  
Kasama na po, Madam Speaker,

**[01:33:20.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001395)  
at Singi School.

**[01:33:23.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001396)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, no?

**[01:33:27.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001397)  
So before I move on to another topic, no?

**[01:33:29.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001398)  
Again, I would like to reiterate with the, as far as the Bureau of Correction, na dapat talaga

**[01:33:34.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001399)  
dagdagan natin ang pondo.

**[01:33:36.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001400)  
Kasi, although they are PDLs, may human rights pa rin tayo dapat sundin sa kailan.

**[01:33:42.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001401)  
Para naman, as you said, na kailangan standard, di ba?

**[01:33:45.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001402)  
Yes.

**[01:33:46.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001403)  
Sa international standard na dapat natin sinusunod.

**[01:33:49.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001404)  
Again, my next topic will be online, sexual.

**[01:33:52.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001405)  
Sexual abuse or exploitation of children.

**[01:33:57.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001406)  
The Department's Special Protection of Children Activities recorded a disbursement rate of approximately 6.9% in 2025.

**[01:34:07.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001407)  
Cases involving online sexual abuse or exploitation of children require specialized investigators.

**[01:34:17.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001408)  
I mean, talking about specialized investigators.

**[01:34:20.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001409)  
Rapid preservation of...

**[01:34:22.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001410)  
electronic evidence,

**[01:34:24.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001411)  
international cooperation,

**[01:34:26.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001412)  
and continuing assistance for victims.

**[01:34:30.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001413)  
I think napaka-importante na ito.

**[01:34:32.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001414)  
Question.

**[01:34:33.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001415)  
What explains the low utilization of funds for the special protection of children activities?

**[01:35:22.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001431)  
So yung low utilization po, there are different factors.

**[01:35:32.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001432)  
Mainly, for 2025 po ba ito?

**[01:35:36.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001433)  
Yeah.

**[01:35:39.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001434)  
And maybe, because 2026 is where there's one more quarter.

**[01:35:44.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001435)  
So, 2025. So, we can base our...

**[01:36:01.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001436)  
So, for the year 2025, yung underutilization po, yung justification niya for underspending it,

**[01:36:10.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001437)  
may delays po in the submission of comments from CSP.

**[01:36:14.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001438)  
We see member agencies, and may mga partnership po kasi with UNICEF na mga workshops na

**[01:36:21.720] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001439)  
ang nag-shoulder po nung gastos ay yung UNICEF po.

**[01:36:25.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001440)  
Madam Speaker, bisigis ko ulit.

**[01:36:30.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001441)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I didn't even know na UNICEF pala involved dito.

**[01:36:34.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001442)  
DOJ, talagang maayos talaga ang inyong pagpapatakbo.

**[01:36:39.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001443)  
My follow-up question, what resources are specifically provided

**[01:36:43.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001444)  
for

**[01:36:44.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001445)  
in 2027 for cases involving online sexual abuse or exploitation of children?

**[01:36:54.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001446)  
So, this coming 2027 budget natin, what kind of resources is specifically provided para sa mga cases?

**[01:37:02.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001447)  
Ano yung mga pwede niyo pang isama para naman lalo natin mapaganda at mapalakas ang ating laban

**[01:37:10.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001448)  
kontra sa mga ganitong sexual abuse and exploitation of children?

**[01:37:13.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001449)  
May I clarify, Madam Speaker, yung sources po?

**[01:37:19.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001450)  
Yes, sources. Funding natin.

**[01:37:22.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001451)  
Ah, sources of funding po.

**[01:37:24.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001452)  
Actually, that's why the interagency against trafficking and yung ating special protection for children

**[01:37:35.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001453)  
ay nanghihingi po ng dagdag budget. At least, maipantay po natin doon sa 2026 levels.

**[01:37:41.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001454)  
Kasi medyo komplikado na po yung ating pong yung mga kaso ngayon ng OSA-XSAM, trafficking,

**[01:37:51.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001455)  
medyo complicated na po, cross-borders na po yan. May mga international syndicates na pong involved.

**[01:38:00.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001456)  
So, ang request po talaga ng ating pong Office of the Secretary para po sa mga programang ito,

**[01:38:09.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001457)  
ma-increase po to...

**[01:38:11.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001458)  
So, appropriately authorize support for time-sensitive and investigative operational and intelligence victim protection activities, Madam Speaker, and...

**[01:38:22.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001459)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[01:38:24.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001460)  
I have more questions about that online child exploitation, but I have only, what, four minutes, so I have to move forward, no?

**[01:38:33.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001461)  
Bilisan ko na. Siguro, I have only two to three questions left.

**[01:38:36.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001462)  
But after this, I'll give you my questionnaire, so at least, mapag-aralan niyo po.

**[01:38:41.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001463)  
At least, that will help, no?

**[01:38:43.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001464)  
But again, I only support DOJ when it comes to your budget.

**[01:38:47.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001465)  
Trafficking and scam operations following the offshore gaming ban.

**[01:38:52.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001466)  
The closure of licensed Philippine offshore gaming operations, or POGO, has not eliminated the risk that criminal groups will continue online fraud, trafficking, illegal gambling through smaller and more dispersed establishments.

**[01:39:08.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001467)  
Meanwhile, the 2025 disbursement rate...

**[01:39:11.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001468)  
For DOJ, anti-trafficking activities was approximately 46.9%.

**[01:39:19.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001469)  
Medyo mababa ata tayo, not even the threshold of 50%.

**[01:39:23.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001470)  
For the 2025?

**[01:39:30.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001471)  
Yes.

**[01:39:41.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001472)  
For the low utilization of the IACAT, the low utilization of the 2025 budget,

**[01:39:59.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001473)  
nagkaroon po ng konting mga problema or delay, lalo na po dun sa mga consultancy services, may delay in the approval of the Terms of Reference,

**[01:40:10.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001474)  
yung...

**[01:40:11.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001475)  
ng mga ICT equipment po, hindi po na-procure, pero ongoing procurement naman po sila.

**[01:40:19.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001476)  
Office equipment, payment was made early, 2026, for the procured scanner.

**[01:40:28.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001477)  
Tapos may mga representation expenses, hindi po natuloy due to frequent mga natural calamities and frequent disasters.

**[01:40:40.780] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001478)  
So,

**[01:40:41.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001479)  
may mga trainings rin po, na hindi po natuloy, dahil po hindi po napayakan yung budget na nakalaan po dun sa training na yun.

**[01:40:53.720] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001480)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:40:55.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001481)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, for my last question.

**[01:41:00.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001482)  
Because I'm running out of time.

**[01:41:01.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001483)  
DOJ responds to the Zamboanga school shooting.

**[01:41:04.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001484)  
On August 18, 2026, a grade 9 student opened fire at the high school campus.

**[01:41:11.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001485)  
Of Ateneo de Zamboanga University, killing another student and injuring others before taking his own life.

**[01:41:23.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001486)  
The incident was live streamed online.

**[01:41:26.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001487)  
And the firearms used were reportedly linked to the assailant's father, a Bureau of Customs official.

**[01:41:35.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001488)  
The president directed authorities to conduct a full investigation.

**[01:41:38.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001489)  
It was the second fatal school shooting reported.

**[01:41:41.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001490)  
In the country, within approximately two months.

**[01:41:46.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001491)  
Question, which law enforcement agency is presently leading the investigation?

**[01:41:51.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001492)  
And what stage will the DOJ National Prosecution Service or National Bureau of Investigation become involved?

**[01:42:00.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001493)  
Actually, ano po, buong DOJ po, yung mga nag-investiga, NBI, meron na pong cases filed

**[01:42:09.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001494)  
against the father of the student.

**[01:42:11.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001495)  
Father of the shooter and the school security guard po.

**[01:42:16.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001496)  
So, they're already filing information before the courts.

**[01:42:24.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001497)  
So, tuloy-tuloy na po yung pag-prosecute po ng ating po nga DOJ dito sa mga kasong ito.

**[01:42:32.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001498)  
Yeah.

**[01:42:33.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001499)  
Again, Madam Speaker, that will end my interpellation, again, on behalf of my party-list.

**[01:42:41.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001500)  
I fully support the budget of DOJ, especially pagdating po sa ating law enforcement agency, yung pong online natin.

**[01:42:53.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001501)  
That's why during our plenary debate here, the DICT talaga naman, we condemn yung ating mga online, mga platforms natin.

**[01:43:05.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001502)  
So, I hope the DOJ family will look into it, no?

**[01:43:09.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001503)  
Para naman maproteksyon na natin.

**[01:43:11.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001504)  
Ang mga kabataan, grade 9 student, napakabata, mag-open fire, and then naka-livestream pa online.

**[01:43:23.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001505)  
I think something to do na pagdating ito sa mga social platforms natin.

**[01:43:29.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001506)  
Again, thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[01:43:32.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001507)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[01:43:34.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001508)  
Actually, may ando na po coordination with the ICT regarding these instances para po maiwasan na po itong mga ganitong pangyayari.

**[01:43:42.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001510)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:43:43.640] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-001511)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Perci Cendaña from Makbayan Party-list to interpellate on the proposed budget.

**[01:43:54.180] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001512)  
Representative Perci Cendaña of Akbayan Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[01:43:58.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001513)  
Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, and good morning to our very able sponsor of the budget of the DOJ, Representative Keith Micah Tan.

**[01:44:08.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001514)  
And good morning to the DOJ family.

**[01:44:11.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001515)  
Yung una po nating tanong ay tungkol kay Apollo Quibuloy.

**[01:44:16.400] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001516)  
Last week po sinabi ng DOJ na they are currently reviewing the documents relative to the extradition of Apollo Quibuloy.

**[01:44:26.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001517)  
May we ask po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, kung ano na ang status nito?

**[01:44:41.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001518)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, since medyo confidential po, we would like to give you a copy na lang po nung report nila and yung may ongoing petition po kasi.

**[01:45:00.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001519)  
for

**[01:45:01.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001520)  
that case.

**[01:45:05.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001521)  
We will yield, Madam Speaker,

**[01:45:08.060] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001522)  
good sponsor, pero for the information

**[01:45:10.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001523)  
of the public, ano po ba

**[01:45:12.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001524)  
ang steps relative

**[01:45:14.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001525)  
to the review of

**[01:45:15.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001526)  
requests like this for

**[01:45:17.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001527)  
extradition?

**[01:45:42.650] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001528)  
So, Madam Speaker,

**[01:45:44.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001529)  
yung dokumento po

**[01:45:46.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001530)  
na manggagaling po sa atin pong

**[01:45:47.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001531)  
United States Government

**[01:45:50.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001532)  
will be

**[01:45:51.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001533)  
sent here.

**[01:45:53.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001534)  
They will be evaluated

**[01:45:55.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001535)  
vis-a-vis the extradition

**[01:45:58.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001536)  
treaty. So,

**[01:46:00.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001537)  
ang challenges na lang po para po sa atin pong

**[01:46:02.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001538)  
DOJ is very voluminous po yung

**[01:46:04.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001539)  
documents po na nanggaling po sa ating

**[01:46:05.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001540)  
US Government na

**[01:46:08.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001541)  
medyo natatagalan, pero may

**[01:46:09.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001542)  
commitment naman po sila isasama po

**[01:46:12.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001543)  
dun sa report po

**[01:46:14.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001544)  
this English

**[01:46:16.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001545)  
colleague, if we

**[01:46:17.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001546)  
give it to your office. Medyo

**[01:46:20.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001547)  
confidential po

**[01:46:22.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001548)  
kasi para hindi rin maudlot

**[01:46:23.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001549)  
yung mga

**[01:46:24.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001550)  
activities po na ginagawa po

**[01:46:28.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001551)  
ng ating pong DOJ.

**[01:46:30.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001552)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues,

**[01:46:32.300] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001553)  
again, we understand the

**[01:46:33.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001554)  
position of the DOJ in terms

**[01:46:36.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001555)  
of the procedures and

**[01:46:37.960] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001556)  
keeping the

**[01:46:39.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001557)  
developments confidential, pero kasi po

**[01:46:42.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001558)  
nagtatanong din ang taong bayan

**[01:46:44.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001559)  
at masalong lalo na po yung mga

**[01:46:46.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001560)  
biktima ng kahiyupan ni

**[01:46:48.100] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001561)  
Apollo Quibuloy as to the status of

**[01:46:50.400] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001562)  
this case. So, siguro po

**[01:46:52.080] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001563)  
as a last point on this matter,

**[01:46:54.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001564)  
are we looking at

**[01:46:56.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001565)  
this year or next year

**[01:46:58.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001566)  
na magkakaroon po ng major development?

**[01:47:00.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001567)  
Pasensya na po, I have to

**[01:47:01.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001568)  
pursue this issue because this is

**[01:47:03.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001569)  
an issue that's very urgent

**[01:47:06.300] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001570)  
and pressing that needs immediate

**[01:47:08.100] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001571)  
attention.

**[01:47:08.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001571-split-2)  
Ang commitment po

**[01:47:10.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001572)  
ng DOJ is this

**[01:47:12.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001573)  
year po may major accomplishment

**[01:47:13.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001574)  
po ang ating pong DOJ

**[01:47:16.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001575)  
with regard to that matter.

**[01:47:18.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001576)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished

**[01:47:20.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001577)  
colleague.

**[01:47:20.920] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001577-split-2)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:47:22.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001578)  
distinguished sponsor, we will hold to task

**[01:47:24.060] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001579)  
DOJ for that commitment na this year

**[01:47:26.020] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001580)  
magkakaroon ng major development

**[01:47:28.040] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001581)  
on this matter, on the

**[01:47:29.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001582)  
extradition of Apollo Quibuloy.

**[01:47:32.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001583)  
Usapang ano pa rin po

**[01:47:34.100] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001584)  
ang

**[01:47:34.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001585)  
mga taong pinagkahanap ng batas.

**[01:47:38.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001586)  
Ito naman po ay si

**[01:47:39.720] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001587)  
Harry Roque. Nung isang

**[01:47:42.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001588)  
araw naman, nabalitaan natin na na-deny

**[01:47:43.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001589)  
ang asylum application

**[01:47:45.500] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001590)  
ni Harry Roque. Tanong alam po

**[01:47:48.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001591)  
natin sa DOJ, anong repercussions

**[01:47:50.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001592)  
ng pagka-deny ng kanyang

**[01:47:52.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001593)  
application for asylum? Madam

**[01:47:53.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001594)  
Speaker, distinguished sponsor.

**[01:48:13.190] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001595)  
So, Madam Speaker,

**[01:48:15.420] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001596)  
distinguished colleague,

**[01:48:16.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001597)  
if verified po yung

**[01:48:19.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001598)  
reports na denied yung

**[01:48:20.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001599)  
asylum application po

**[01:48:23.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001600)  
ng

**[01:48:23.420] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001601)  
individual involved in that case,

**[01:48:27.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001602)  
there is no legal

**[01:48:29.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001603)  
impediment.

**[01:48:29.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001604)  
anymore for the Austrian government

**[01:48:31.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001605)  
to deport him, lalo na po

**[01:48:33.780] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001606)  
at undocumented

**[01:48:35.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001607)  
ang individual involved in this case

**[01:48:37.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001608)  
doon po sa

**[01:48:38.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001609)  
lugar na iyon.

**[01:48:41.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001610)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[01:48:44.260] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001611)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[01:48:46.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001612)  
thank you very much for clearing

**[01:48:47.660] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001613)  
that up. And marami

**[01:48:49.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001614)  
po tayong mga kababayan ang naniniwala

**[01:48:52.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001615)  
na kung totoo nga po

**[01:48:53.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001616)  
ang denial ng asylum at tulad

**[01:48:55.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001617)  
po na nabanggit ninyo, wala nang

**[01:48:57.480] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001618)  
impediment para ma-deport siya at

**[01:48:59.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001619)  
sa Pilipinas. Sana po matutukan

**[01:49:02.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001620)  
ng DOJ ang mga kaso ni

**[01:49:04.020] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001621)  
Apollo Quiboloy at Harry Roque.

**[01:49:06.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001622)  
We have to make sure that justice

**[01:49:07.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001623)  
is served as soon as

**[01:49:09.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001624)  
possible. Let me move on to

**[01:49:11.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001625)  
another topic, Madam Speaker,

**[01:49:13.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001626)  
distinguished sponsor.

**[01:49:16.400] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001627)  
In 2024, Bucor

**[01:49:17.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001628)  
inaugurated a 120

**[01:49:19.720] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001629)  
bed hospital facility

**[01:49:22.060] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001630)  
in the New Bilibid Prison Compound.

**[01:49:23.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001631)  
However, with Bucor

**[01:49:25.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001632)  
having a massive inmate population,

**[01:49:28.560] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001633)  
jail congestion,

**[01:49:29.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001634)  
and healthcare limitations,

**[01:49:31.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001635)  
ito pa rin remains critical.

**[01:49:34.960] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001636)  
So ang tanong po ay,

**[01:49:36.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001637)  
may sapat po bang medical facilities

**[01:49:37.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001638)  
ang Bucor para sa libo-libong

**[01:49:39.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001639)  
PDLs na mayroong malalang sakit?

**[01:49:55.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001640)  
Actually,

**[01:49:56.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001641)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:49:57.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001642)  
Mr. Gish Kolig, maganda po na

**[01:49:59.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001643)  
bring up niyo po. Wala po silang sapat

**[01:50:01.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001644)  
na medical facilities. Actually,

**[01:50:03.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001645)  
nag-re-request pa po sila sa Department

**[01:50:05.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001646)  
of Health na mabigyan rin po

**[01:50:08.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001647)  
ng mga dialysis machines

**[01:50:10.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001648)  
po yung ating Bureau of Corrections, lalo

**[01:50:11.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001649)  
para po doon sa mga nangangailangang

**[01:50:14.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001650)  
PDL.

**[01:50:15.700] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001651)  
Nareflect po ba itong requests for

**[01:50:17.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001652)  
improvement and augmentation

**[01:50:19.660] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001653)  
ng health facilities doon sa original

**[01:50:21.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001654)  
proposal ng Bucor for the budget?

**[01:50:29.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001655)  
As for the

**[01:50:34.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001656)  
original submission po, Madam Speaker,

**[01:50:36.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001657)  
hindi po siya reflected.

**[01:50:38.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001658)  
That's why they're requesting po

**[01:50:40.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001659)  
sa DOH na sana po sa kanila po

**[01:50:42.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001660)  
manggaling yung facilities

**[01:50:44.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001661)  
since technically

**[01:50:46.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001662)  
they are more

**[01:50:48.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001663)  
experienced in that matter.

**[01:50:54.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001664)  
Yung

**[01:50:54.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001665)  
mandato po kasi ng

**[01:50:56.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001666)  
Bucor is to

**[01:50:58.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001667)  
rehabilitate rin po sa

**[01:50:59.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001668)  
PDLs and yung

**[01:51:01.780] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001669)  
focus po talaga nila ay yung

**[01:51:04.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001670)  
pag-lessen po ng prison

**[01:51:06.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001671)  
congestion para

**[01:51:07.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001672)  
makaabot rin po

**[01:51:10.780] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001673)  
doon sa international standards

**[01:51:12.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001674)  
na

**[01:51:13.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001675)  
inanais po

**[01:51:16.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001676)  
natin, Madam Speaker

**[01:51:18.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001677)  
Distinguished Colleague.

**[01:51:19.460] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001677-split-2)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:51:20.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001678)  
Distinguished Colleague, meron na po bang nabuo

**[01:51:22.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001679)  
na interagency

**[01:51:24.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001680)  
or bilateral body

**[01:51:26.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001681)  
that looks into these issues

**[01:51:28.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001682)  
between the Bucor,

**[01:51:29.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001683)  
the DOH, and other relevant agencies.

**[01:51:31.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001684)  
Thank you.

**[01:51:43.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001685)  
As of now, wala pa po, Madam Speaker,

**[01:51:47.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001686)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[01:51:48.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001687)  
ang

**[01:51:48.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001688)  
inaayos na lang po ng ating

**[01:51:53.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001689)  
Bureau of Corrections is

**[01:51:54.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001690)  
yung pwede pong mag-qualify

**[01:51:56.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001691)  
for medical parole.

**[01:51:58.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001692)  
Yun po yung sinusubukan nila.

**[01:51:59.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001693)  
At least, hindi na po sila mag-suffer

**[01:52:04.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001694)  
pa po doon sa loob po ng ating

**[01:52:05.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001695)  
mga Bureau of

**[01:52:08.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001696)  
Corrections facilities.

**[01:52:10.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001697)  
Lalo na po at may dinadaying

**[01:52:11.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001698)  
na po rin pong sakit yung ating

**[01:52:13.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001699)  
PDL. Madam Speaker,

**[01:52:15.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001700)  
Distinguished Colleague.

**[01:52:16.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001700-split-2)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:52:17.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001701)  
Distinguished Colleague, salamat po. We'll go to

**[01:52:19.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001702)  
that point about medical parole

**[01:52:21.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001703)  
in a very short while. I'll just go back to the

**[01:52:23.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001704)  
issue of the importance

**[01:52:25.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001705)  
of an interagency approach

**[01:52:27.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001706)  
on this matter as this is a

**[01:52:29.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001707)  
concern of health. At nagulat po ako

**[01:52:31.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001708)  
na wala pa pa lang

**[01:52:33.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001709)  
interagency efforts convergence

**[01:52:35.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001710)  
towards this issue to find

**[01:52:37.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001711)  
a solution kay task force man lamang.

**[01:52:40.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001712)  
At sana po sa susunod na budget hearing,

**[01:52:42.500] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001713)  
this is, consider this

**[01:52:44.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001714)  
as a proposal, a suggestion

**[01:52:46.100] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001715)  
to the agency. Out of the

**[01:52:48.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001716)  
total PDL population in

**[01:52:50.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001717)  
Bucor, ilan po ang

**[01:52:51.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001718)  
naitalang sick, elderly, or

**[01:52:53.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001719)  
terminally ill PDLs

**[01:52:55.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001720)  
na nangangailangan ng constant hospital

**[01:52:58.020] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001721)  
care? Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[01:52:59.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001722)  
Distinguished Sponsor.

**[01:53:08.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001723)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:53:09.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001724)  
Distinguished Colleague, more or less mga

**[01:53:11.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001725)  
150 po na

**[01:53:13.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001726)  
PDLs yung pinag-aaralan po nilang

**[01:53:15.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001727)  
mabigyan ng medical parole.

**[01:53:18.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001728)  
So, 150?

**[01:53:21.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001729)  
Yes, po.

**[01:53:23.720] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001730)  
150 are either

**[01:53:25.720] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001731)  
sick, elderly, or terminally

**[01:53:28.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001732)  
ill PDLs.

**[01:53:29.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001733)  
Yes, Madam

**[01:53:33.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001734)  
Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[01:53:36.040] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001735)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker,

**[01:53:37.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001736)  
Distinguished Sponsor.

**[01:53:39.580] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001737)  
Nungulit ko lang po yung earlier question about

**[01:53:41.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001738)  
budget. Para lang po ma-put

**[01:53:43.560] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001739)  
on record, sapat ba

**[01:53:45.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001740)  
ang budget ng DOJ para sa mga hospital

**[01:53:47.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001741)  
at infirmaries para hindi

**[01:53:49.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001742)  
nakailanganin ang frequent referrals

**[01:53:51.560] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001743)  
sa external hospitals?

**[01:53:54.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001744)  
Hindi po, Madam Speaker,

**[01:53:56.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001745)  
Distinguished Colleague.

**[01:53:57.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001746)  
Kasi,

**[01:53:59.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001747)  
we are working

**[01:54:01.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001748)  
with a limited budget

**[01:54:03.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001749)  
sa

**[01:54:04.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001750)  
ang ginagawa na lang po

**[01:54:09.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001751)  
ng ating mga

**[01:54:10.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001752)  
bukor, lalo na po

**[01:54:13.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001753)  
na ipagamot na lang po sila sa mga

**[01:54:15.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001754)  
LGU hospitals na

**[01:54:16.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001755)  
willing pong tumulong po sa kanila

**[01:54:19.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001756)  
para po sa kanilang pag-aalaga

**[01:54:21.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001757)  
sa ating mga PDLs. So, as of

**[01:54:23.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001758)  
now po, yung budget po ng ating

**[01:54:25.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001759)  
DOJ, hindi po

**[01:54:28.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001760)  
sapat para po matugon

**[01:54:29.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001761)  
na lalo na po yung pang-medical

**[01:54:31.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001762)  
na pang-ailangan po ng ating mga PDL.

**[01:54:34.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001763)  
Maraming salamat

**[01:54:35.380] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001764)  
for putting it on record,

**[01:54:37.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001765)  
inoong sponsor,

**[01:54:39.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001766)  
Madam Speaker. Sa budget

**[01:54:41.260] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001767)  
deliberation last year sa 2026

**[01:54:43.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001768)  
GAA, Bucor and the

**[01:54:45.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001769)  
DOJ have pushed to expedite

**[01:54:47.580] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001770)  
executive clemency and parole processes

**[01:54:49.660] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001771)  
for sick

**[01:54:51.380] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001772)  
and elderly PDLs. Ano na po

**[01:54:53.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001773)  
ang protocol ng DOJ at Bucor

**[01:54:55.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001774)  
kapag may PDL na may

**[01:54:57.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001775)  
medically compelling condition?

**[01:54:59.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001776)  
Habang nagaantay pa sila ng

**[01:55:01.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001777)  
desisyon sa kanilang pardon, parol,

**[01:55:03.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001778)  
o humanitarian release, ginoong

**[01:55:05.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001779)  
sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[01:55:56.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001783)  
So, Madam Speaker,

**[01:55:59.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001784)  
As of now, they are trying to get an executive order to finalize the medical parole.

**[01:56:07.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001785)  
Pero during that time na hinihintay po nila kasi may mga natatagalan pa pong mga pumirma doon sa ating poong EO,

**[01:56:16.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001786)  
nag-establish po sila nung kanlungan ni Lolo na facility doon sa Bucor,

**[01:56:22.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001787)  
kung saan doon po nilalagay po ng lahat ng may sakit para po mas mabantayan po nila.

**[01:56:28.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001788)  
As of now, ang ginagawa na lang po nila to treat their PDLs, kung ano po yung within the resources po ng Bucor.

**[01:56:37.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001789)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[01:56:40.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001790)  
Maraming salamat. Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, nabanggit nyo po hinihintay natin yung EO.

**[01:56:45.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001791)  
Kailan po ba nagsimula yung development process itong EO na ito? Nasaan punto na tayo?

**[01:56:50.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001792)  
Sino pa ang hindi pumipirma? Ano pa ang kailangan?

**[01:56:52.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001793)  
Para finally ay maging ganap na polisiyan na ito.

**[01:57:16.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001794)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[01:57:18.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001795)  
As of now, as reported by our Bureau of Correction,

**[01:57:22.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001796)  
Director, isa na lang po yung hinihintay na firma for the EO to take effect dito po yung sa Department of Health

**[01:57:32.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001797)  
kasi kailangan po masertify nila na totoong may sakit yung isang individual, lalo na po yung ating PDL

**[01:57:39.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001798)  
para po makapasok doon sa Executive Climacy na inaayos po ng ating Bureau of Correction.

**[01:57:45.780] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001799)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[01:57:48.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001800)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, we understand.

**[01:57:50.920] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001801)  
Bago po ang leadership ngayon.

**[01:57:52.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001802)  
Department of Health at mahalaga na ipaalala sa kanila itong mga urgent matters na ito.

**[01:57:56.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001803)  
Pero just for the record, ganoon na po tayo katagal naghihintay sa firma ng Department of Health on this EO?

**[01:58:05.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001804)  
Last year pa po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[01:58:11.080] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001805)  
Nakalulungkot, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, na last year pa pala dapat meron na tayong EO

**[01:58:17.340] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001806)  
para matulungan ang mga kababayan natin ng mga PDL sa nangangailangan.

**[01:58:22.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001807)  
Nang window of service na ito, ng clemency, ng parol para sa kanilang health reasons

**[01:58:31.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001808)  
or sa pagiging matanda na masyado.

**[01:58:34.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001809)  
Pero sa dulo, yung pa palang Department of Health na dapat nangangalaga sa kalusugan ng ating mga kababayan

**[01:58:41.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001810)  
ang walang ginagawa, ang dinededma ito.

**[01:58:45.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001811)  
Ano daw po ang dahilan na binigay ng DOH at dinededma nila ang napakahalagang EO na ito, Madam Speaker?

**[01:58:51.380] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001812)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[01:58:52.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001813)  
Madam Speaker, we are not privy doon sa kung bakit po natatagalan on the part of the DOH.

**[01:59:06.780] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001814)  
Ang nagagawa na lang po ng ating Bureau of Corrections is mag-follow up po ng mag-follow up.

**[01:59:12.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001815)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[01:59:15.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001816)  
Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker, thank you very much for the very candid response of the agency on the matter.

**[01:59:21.920] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001817)  
Pero hindi.

**[01:59:22.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001818)  
Hindi po kasi tama na pinaghihintayin natin ng hindi lamang buwan kundi taon na yung ganitong napakahalagang polisiya.

**[01:59:30.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001819)  
Still on this matter, paano po natin tinitiyak na ang ating mga mahihirap at indigent PDLs ay nabibigyan din ng pantay at mabilis na access sa ganitong medical interventions?

**[01:59:41.960] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001820)  
Sigurado po ba tayo na hindi lang ito para sa mga may kakayahang kumuha ng private doctors?

**[02:00:00.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001824)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[02:00:04.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001825)  
ang ginagawa po ng ating Bureau of Corrections,

**[02:00:07.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001826)  
they are coordinating with hospitals that are willing to take in

**[02:00:12.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001827)  
yung ating mga PDL na nangangailangan.

**[02:00:15.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001828)  
For example, meron po silang coordination with East Avenue Medical Center.

**[02:00:22.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001829)  
Doon po nila dinadala, lalaan po sila ng pondo

**[02:00:25.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001830)  
para po madala po yung ating mga PDL na nangangailangan ng medical care

**[02:00:28.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001831)  
sa mga hospital katulad po ng East Avenue Medical Center.

**[02:00:32.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001832)  
Maliban po sa East Avenue Medical Center, saan pa po yung iba pang mga facilities?

**[02:00:37.560] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001833)  
Madam Speaker.

**[02:00:47.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001834)  
Lahat po ng facilities naman daw po ay dinadalahan po nila.

**[02:00:52.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001835)  
May mga LGU hospitals naman po silang kamowa,

**[02:00:55.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001836)  
saan rin po nila dinadala.

**[02:00:57.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001837)  
May mga times lang po siguro na dahil puno rin po siguro yung ating hospital,

**[02:01:06.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001838)  
hindi po ma-accommodate, pero we know work out po ng ating Bureau of Corrections

**[02:01:09.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001839)  
na madala po yung ating mga PDL sa tamang pangangalaga rin po

**[02:01:14.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001840)  
ng ating mga medical professionals.

**[02:01:16.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001841)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[02:01:19.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001842)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[02:01:21.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001843)  
nakatutok ngayon ng publiko sa usapin ng medical releases

**[02:01:24.700] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001844)  
dahil ginagamit ito ng ilang

**[02:01:27.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001849)  
high-profile officials na may kasong plunder,

**[02:01:31.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001850)  
paano po tindiyak ng DOJ na hindi maaabuso ang prosesong ito?

**[02:01:35.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001851)  
Ano po ang mga safeguards o stringent monitoring mechanisms

**[02:01:38.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001852)  
na pwede ipatupad ng DOJ at Bucor tungkol dito?

**[02:01:42.100] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001853)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[02:02:17.130] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001854)  
So, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[02:02:22.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001855)  
as of now, yung mga kilalang individual po kasi na tangkot or accused,

**[02:02:27.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001856)  
ay nasa pangangalaga po ng BJMP.

**[02:02:31.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001857)  
Pero ang proseso daw po, as per sa ating DOJ,

**[02:02:37.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001858)  
meron pong sariling medical examiner na nagkakondak para po sa BJMP

**[02:02:42.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001859)  
para po masigurado or macertify na ito po yung estado or health status

**[02:02:50.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001860)  
ng ating pong accused na sangkot sa ating pong investigation.

**[02:02:57.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001861)  
And complaints, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[02:03:01.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001862)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[02:03:03.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001863)  
hindi po yung mga recently na nakasuhan yung nire-refer ko.

**[02:03:06.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001864)  
May mga instances po in the past na nangyari ito.

**[02:03:10.100] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001865)  
But let me just close by saying,

**[02:03:13.100] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001866)  
na usapin ang medical recognizance ay hindi dapat nakabatay sa pangalan,

**[02:03:17.460] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001867)  
posisyon o impluensya ng isang PDL.

**[02:03:20.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001868)  
Ang pamantayan ay dapat iisa lang para sa lahat.

**[02:03:24.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001869)  
Una, ang aktual na medical condition,

**[02:03:27.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001870)  
pangalaba, ang umiiral na batas.

**[02:03:29.960] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001871)  
Pangatlo, ang pangangailangang pangalagaan ang karapatang pantao at due process.

**[02:03:35.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001872)  
Kaya hinihiling po natin, Madam Speaker,

**[02:03:38.500] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001873)  
sa Department of Justice, natiyaking ang anumang mekanismo

**[02:03:42.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001874)  
para sa medical recognizance, hospital confinement, or medical condition

**[02:03:47.060] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001875)  
ay malinaw, transparent, at pare-parehong pamantayan.

**[02:03:52.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001876)  
Dapat walang special treatment, dapat walang VIP lane.

**[02:03:57.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001877)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[02:04:00.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001878)  
Thank you, Distinguished Colleague, Madam Speaker.

**[02:04:03.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001879)  
They will comply with po sa ating mga requests rin po, Distinguished Colleague.

**[02:04:08.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001880)  
Thank you po.

**[02:04:08.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001881)  
Salamat po.

**[02:04:09.780] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001882)  
Majority Leader.

**[02:04:12.880] Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.** (asr-001883)  
Madam Speaker, move to suspended session for a few minutes.

**[02:04:15.720] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001884)  
Session is suspended.

**[02:04:57.360] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001887)  
Session is resumed.

**[02:05:07.300] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001888)  
Majority Leader.

**[02:05:09.740] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-001889)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Edgar R. Erice

**[02:05:14.280] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-001890)  
from the 2nd District of Caloocan City to interpellate the said measure.

**[02:05:19.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001891)  
Representative Edgar Erice is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[02:05:23.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001892)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[02:05:25.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001893)  
Thank you, Majority Leader.

**[02:05:27.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001894)  
And to our Distinguished Sponsor, good morning.

**[02:05:30.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001895)  
Good morning.

**[02:05:31.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001896)  
I have a very few questions.

**[02:05:34.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001897)  
But this is all about the Bureau of Immigration.

**[02:05:41.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001898)  
And gusto ko lang po itanong yung tungkol dito sa biometric gates natin.

**[02:05:48.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001899)  
May data po ako dito na for the last 4 years,

**[02:05:55.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001900)  
kulang-kulang 4 billion na po.

**[02:05:57.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001901)  
Yung nagagagastos ng pamahalaan para sa purchase ng mga e-gates natin,

**[02:06:06.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001902)  
including the cameras.

**[02:06:09.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001903)  
And the Bureau of Immigration, confirm?

**[02:06:27.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001904)  
So, for the e-gates project po, yung total na kalaan pong pondo,

**[02:06:36.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001905)  
for Phase 1, 1.5 billion.

**[02:06:41.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001906)  
Approximately, 1.5 billion.

**[02:06:42.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001907)  
1.3 po ang Phase 2.

**[02:06:45.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001908)  
And 536 million po ang Phase 3.

**[02:06:52.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001909)  
More or less, mga...

**[02:06:57.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001912)  
More than 2 billion na po yung nagagagastos po para po sa...

**[02:07:02.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001913)  
Ang nagagagastos pa lang po talaga ay 1.528.

**[02:07:09.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001914)  
869.957 billion po.

**[02:07:12.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001915)  
There was a...

**[02:07:14.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001916)  
How much is the total?

**[02:07:20.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001917)  
Yung Phase 1 pa lang po yung nagagastos po.

**[02:07:24.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001918)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:07:27.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001919)  
1,528,869,957.

**[02:07:34.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001920)  
1,528,869,957.

**[02:07:39.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001921)  
This includes e-gates, CCTV, and facial recognition monitoring?

**[02:07:46.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001922)  
Yes po.

**[02:07:46.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001923)  
Kasama lang po lahat to?

**[02:07:48.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001924)  
Yes po, Madam Speaker.

**[02:07:49.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001925)  
Ito po yung Phase 1.

**[02:07:52.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001926)  
Ilang e-gates po ba ito?

**[02:07:54.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001927)  
Yung Phase 1 po ay total of...

**[02:07:57.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001928)  
47 e-gates po.

**[02:08:00.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001929)  
Distributed in Clark International Airport,

**[02:08:05.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001930)  
Mactan Cebu International Airport,

**[02:08:07.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001931)  
Davao International Airport,

**[02:08:09.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001932)  
and Bohol Panglao International Airport.

**[02:08:13.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001933)  
So, 47 na po.

**[02:08:14.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001934)  
47 po yung para sa...

**[02:08:16.660] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001935)  
And the cost of the 47 e-gates is how much?

**[02:08:20.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001936)  
Ito pong...

**[02:08:24.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001937)  
Ito pong 1,500,000,000.

**[02:08:27.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001938)  
128,869,957.

**[02:08:30.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001939)  
This is Phase 1.

**[02:08:31.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001940)  
Yes po, Phase 1.

**[02:08:32.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001941)  
Yung Phase 2 po, magkano po?

**[02:08:33.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001942)  
Phase 2 po ay 1.347,057 billion.

**[02:08:40.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001943)  
So...

**[02:08:41.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001944)  
1,347,057,000.

**[02:08:43.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001945)  
And how many e-gates po ito?

**[02:08:57.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001946)  
We're just getting the figure po,

**[02:09:18.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001947)  
this English colleague.

**[02:09:20.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001948)  
Medyo nagbago daw po kasi yung mga presyo.

**[02:09:22.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001949)  
Pero nag-bid na po ito?

**[02:09:23.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001950)  
Hindi pa po.

**[02:09:25.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001951)  
They are...

**[02:09:27.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001952)  
Undergoing procurement process pa lang po.

**[02:09:29.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001953)  
September 14 lang po yung

**[02:09:30.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001954)  
advertisement

**[02:09:33.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001955)  
by the speaker and...

**[02:09:36.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001956)  
So, hindi pa natin alam kung ilang units?

**[02:09:41.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001957)  
Hindi pa daw po kompleto yung technical specification.

**[02:09:46.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001958)  
Bali, ang nandito pa lang po ay mga tentative dates

**[02:09:48.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001959)  
wherein kung kailan nila i-undertake yung

**[02:09:51.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001960)  
advertisement, bid conference,

**[02:09:54.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001961)  
and yung mga bid submitting.

**[02:09:55.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001962)  
And these particular units,

**[02:09:57.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001963)  
they are for what airports?

**[02:10:10.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001964)  
Cebu and Tawi-Tawi po.

**[02:10:13.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001965)  
And the Phase 3?

**[02:10:15.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001966)  
How about the Phase 3 po?

**[02:10:16.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001967)  
How much is the Phase 3?

**[02:10:18.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001968)  
Phase 3 po ay 536,072,000.

**[02:10:21.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001969)  
And undergoing technical specifications pa rin po yung atin pong...

**[02:10:27.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001970)  
Phase 3.

**[02:10:28.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001971)  
And this is for what airports?

**[02:10:43.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001972)  
As of now po, wala pa po.

**[02:10:45.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001973)  
To be determined pa po after yung ating pong Phase 2.

**[02:10:50.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001974)  
Depende po sa assessment po ng ating Bureau of Immigration

**[02:10:52.780] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001975)  
kung saan pa po kailangan yung E-Gates project po.

**[02:10:57.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001976)  
At kung saan pa po kailangan yung E-Gates project po.

**[02:10:58.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001977)  
Why do you procure E-Gates kung wala pang definite mga pupuntahan nito?

**[02:11:04.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001978)  
Well, yung Phase 1 po okay naman po.

**[02:11:10.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001979)  
Okay na.

**[02:11:13.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001980)  
Yung details lang po ng Phase 2 kung saan po ilalagay.

**[02:11:16.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001981)  
Kinukuha lang po namin kung yung number

**[02:11:19.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001982)  
and kung saan po yung breakdown po nung ating E-Gates.

**[02:11:22.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001983)  
Yung Phase 3 po, totally wala pa po kasi undergoing technical specifications.

**[02:11:27.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001984)  
I'm sure there are requests for installations or airports.

**[02:11:34.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001985)  
Before you...

**[02:11:35.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001986)  
Di ba po sa budget process magpo-propose ang department

**[02:11:41.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001987)  
ng gastusin for particular budgetary expense?

**[02:11:48.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001988)  
Bakit nauuna yung pondo kaysa dun sa requirements?

**[02:11:57.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001989)  
So, may mga instances po na kailangan po ng ating Bureau of Immigration

**[02:12:04.780] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001990)  
na i-reconfigure yung technical specifications

**[02:12:07.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001991)  
kasi tumataas po yung presyo po ng ating mga equipment.

**[02:12:12.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-001992)  
So, medyo natatagalan po talaga.

**[02:12:16.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001993)  
Can you just submit the details of these procurements?

**[02:12:22.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001994)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[02:12:23.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001995)  
Kasi hindi po ako makapaniwala.

**[02:12:25.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001996)  
Kasi po bago talaga magpapabida.

**[02:12:27.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001997)  
Dapat alam mo na kung saan pupunta yung ano eh.

**[02:12:29.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001998)  
Bago kong magpapondo, dapat alam mo na kung saan pupunta yung pera.

**[02:12:33.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001999)  
So, can you just submit a distinguished chair

**[02:12:39.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002000)  
the documents at least before Friday, the end of our plenary debate.

**[02:12:48.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002001)  
Okay.

**[02:12:50.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002002)  
Yes, this thing is rolling, Madam Speaker.

**[02:12:52.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002003)  
Yung pong E-Gates,

**[02:12:57.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002004)  
Ninoy-Akina International Airport.

**[02:12:59.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002005)  
Ganon po karami ito at sino po ang nag-provide niyo?

**[02:13:21.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002006)  
Mga 23 na E-Gates po yung pinrovide ng ating new na EIA.

**[02:13:30.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002008)  
NNIC po.

**[02:13:34.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002009)  
New na EIA International Corporation.

**[02:13:40.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002010)  
23 lamang po?

**[02:13:43.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002011)  
For the whole Terminal 1 and 3?

**[02:13:45.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002012)  
Yes po.

**[02:13:47.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002013)  
Parang mas marami eh.

**[02:13:51.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002014)  
They will just provide also a breakdown, Madam Speaker.

**[02:13:56.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002015)  
They are just going to provide a breakdown.

**[02:13:57.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002016)  
confirming about the total number of

**[02:13:59.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002017)  
e-gates for both

**[02:14:01.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002018)  
Terminal 1 and Terminal 3 po.

**[02:14:03.660] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002019)  
I have a figure here.

**[02:14:06.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002020)  
There are 78 e-gates

**[02:14:07.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002021)  
in Terminal 1 and 3.

**[02:14:22.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002022)  
There are 78 biometric

**[02:14:25.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002023)  
immigration e-gates

**[02:14:26.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002024)  
at Ninoy Aquino

**[02:14:28.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002025)  
International Airport

**[02:14:30.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002026)  
T1 and 3.

**[02:14:32.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002027)  
It is funded by the

**[02:14:33.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002028)  
concessionaire

**[02:14:34.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002029)  
and the same technology,

**[02:14:40.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002030)  
Amadeus Technology,

**[02:14:41.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002031)  
the same technology provider

**[02:14:44.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002032)  
for immigration

**[02:14:46.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002033)  
gates, the Bureau of Immigration

**[02:14:48.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002034)  
provided gates.

**[02:14:55.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002035)  
78 po.

**[02:14:56.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002036)  
Ano talagang tama?

**[02:15:00.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002037)  
still confirming, Madam Speaker,

**[02:15:02.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002038)  
if we can give you a

**[02:15:04.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002039)  
breakdown?

**[02:15:12.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002040)  
They're still confirming about the

**[02:15:13.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002041)  
breakdown. Kasi po, kaya ako po tinatanong, alam nyo,

**[02:15:16.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002042)  
for 47

**[02:15:19.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002043)  
gates,

**[02:15:22.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002044)  
yung presyo nyo,

**[02:15:23.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002045)  
maabot na ng 3.

**[02:15:26.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002046)  
Samantalang yung sa San

**[02:15:28.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002047)  
Miguel, yung concessionaire

**[02:15:30.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002048)  
natin, yung 78 e-gates,

**[02:15:32.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002049)  
mas marami,

**[02:15:34.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002050)  
naka-incorporate na dun sa kanilang

**[02:15:36.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002051)  
mismo, sa kanilang

**[02:15:37.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002052)  
modernization plan,

**[02:15:39.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002053)  
na 6.8 billion. The whole

**[02:15:41.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002054)  
airport modernization

**[02:15:44.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002055)  
for Terminal 1 and 3,

**[02:15:46.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002056)  
only 6.8 billion.

**[02:15:48.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002057)  
Pero kayo, for 47

**[02:15:50.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002058)  
mga ano, 1 point

**[02:15:51.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002059)  
something billion na,

**[02:15:53.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002060)  
almost 3 billion. Bakit kaya gano'n?

**[02:15:56.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002061)  
Parang masyadong

**[02:15:57.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002062)  
Do you have

**[02:15:59.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002063)  
a, ano, an apple

**[02:16:01.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002064)  
to apple comparison between the

**[02:16:03.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002065)  
e-gates of,

**[02:16:05.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002066)  
provided by the concessionaire

**[02:16:07.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002067)  
and the e-gates procured by the

**[02:16:10.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002068)  
immigration department?

**[02:16:15.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002069)  
So,

**[02:16:16.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002070)  
hindi po siya apple to apple comparison.

**[02:16:20.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002071)  
They are not aware of

**[02:16:21.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002072)  
po ano po yung presyo

**[02:16:23.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002073)  
na nakuha po na ato

**[02:16:25.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002074)  
ng NNIC.

**[02:16:27.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002075)  
Yung pag-provide po ng e-gates.

**[02:16:30.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002076)  
Pero ang,

**[02:16:31.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002077)  
sa parte po ng ating po,

**[02:16:32.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002078)  
Bureau of Immigration,

**[02:16:34.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002079)  
naglabas lang po sila mga

**[02:16:35.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002080)  
technical specifications

**[02:16:38.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002081)  
regarding this matter

**[02:16:41.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002082)  
and yung market scoping po,

**[02:16:43.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002083)  
ito po yung presyo na

**[02:16:44.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002084)  
lumabas dun sa kanilang

**[02:16:46.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002085)  
pag-determine po ng mga presyo.

**[02:16:49.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002086)  
I have a computation here.

**[02:16:52.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002087)  
Ito naman ho,

**[02:16:52.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002088)  
hindi natin, hindi ako sure, pero

**[02:16:54.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002089)  
kinumpute ko lang on the basis of ano,

**[02:16:57.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002090)  
tumalabas ko ba 32 million per e-gate

**[02:16:59.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002091)  
ang gastos ng immigration?

**[02:17:07.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002092)  
More or less,

**[02:17:09.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002093)  
kahit po yung, ano lang,

**[02:17:11.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002094)  
ballpark figure per e-gate.

**[02:17:23.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002096)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:17:24.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002097)  
this English colleague hindi pa po makonfirm

**[02:17:25.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002098)  
kung ano po yung total breakdown.

**[02:17:27.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002099)  
Per e-gate,

**[02:17:27.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002100)  
we will provide a copy of the breakdown

**[02:17:31.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002101)  
per cost per...

**[02:17:32.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002102)  
And I will request the

**[02:17:35.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002103)  
NAIA

**[02:17:37.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002104)  
concessionaire to

**[02:17:39.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002105)  
give us a, you know,

**[02:17:43.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002106)  
to give us

**[02:17:44.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002107)  
the cost of their e-gates.

**[02:17:47.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002108)  
Para makumpira natin,

**[02:17:48.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002109)  
dapat makatipid ng gobyerno.

**[02:17:49.660] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002110)  
Alam niyo naman, kulang na kulang

**[02:17:50.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002111)  
ng talapin ng bayan.

**[02:17:54.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002112)  
Especially na,

**[02:17:55.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002113)  
hindi pa naman po nabibid yung,

**[02:17:57.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002114)  
phase 2 and phase 3.

**[02:17:59.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002115)  
So,

**[02:18:00.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002116)  
can I expect it before Friday?

**[02:18:03.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002117)  
Yes po.

**[02:18:04.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002118)  
They will comply po, Madam Speaker.

**[02:18:07.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002119)  
This English colleague.

**[02:18:07.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002120)  
And for the total nga po,

**[02:18:09.420] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002121)  
78 na e-gates po yung

**[02:18:11.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002122)  
pin-provide po ng ating pong NNIC.

**[02:18:16.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002123)  
Next issue,

**[02:18:18.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002124)  
distinguished colleague,

**[02:18:20.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002125)  
is the

**[02:18:21.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002126)  
the security

**[02:18:24.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002127)  
reports

**[02:18:25.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002128)  
ano po,

**[02:18:27.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002129)  
yung ating

**[02:18:28.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002130)  
PPP?

**[02:18:32.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002131)  
Ah, yes po.

**[02:18:33.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002132)  
Yung, Madam Speaker,

**[02:18:35.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002133)  
the unsolicited proposal po ba?

**[02:18:38.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002134)  
Unsolicited proposal.

**[02:18:39.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002135)  
Coming from secure report.

**[02:18:41.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002136)  
Pwede po bang ma-update

**[02:18:43.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002137)  
ano na yung status sa ngayon?

**[02:18:52.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002138)  
Ongoing contract review pa rin po

**[02:18:54.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002139)  
with the PPP center.

**[02:18:56.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002140)  
The,

**[02:18:56.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002141)  
the,

**[02:18:56.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002142)  
the DOF and the

**[02:18:58.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002143)  
Office of the Solicitor General po.

**[02:19:00.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002144)  
Okay.

**[02:19:01.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002145)  
Ah,

**[02:19:02.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002146)  
nihingi ko rin po yung kopya

**[02:19:03.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002147)  
nung pinangako sa akin

**[02:19:05.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002148)  
ng mga

**[02:19:05.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002149)  
terms of reference

**[02:19:07.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002150)  
including the bid documents,

**[02:19:09.660] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002151)  
the Swiss Challenge documents.

**[02:19:11.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002152)  
Ah,

**[02:19:12.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002153)  
kung pwede rin po

**[02:19:12.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002154)  
maibigay sa akin before Friday.

**[02:19:15.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002155)  
And I have here some questionnaire.

**[02:19:18.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002156)  
At, ah,

**[02:19:19.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002157)  
not to belabor the point,

**[02:19:21.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002158)  
I'll just give to you

**[02:19:23.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002159)  
these questionnaires.

**[02:19:24.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002160)  
At kung po pwede po

**[02:19:25.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002161)  
masagot sa akin

**[02:19:26.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002162)  
ito,

**[02:19:26.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002163)  
ah,

**[02:19:27.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002164)  
before Friday.

**[02:19:28.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002165)  
Yes,

**[02:19:29.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002166)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:19:30.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002167)  
ah,

**[02:19:30.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002168)  
the Bureau of Immigration

**[02:19:31.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002169)  
will comply with

**[02:19:32.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002170)  
before Friday.

**[02:19:34.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002171)  
Thank you po.

**[02:19:35.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002172)  
Ah,

**[02:19:35.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002173)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:19:36.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002174)  
thank you.

**[02:19:37.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002175)  
Distinguished sponsor.

**[02:19:38.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002176)  
Thank you po,

**[02:19:39.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002177)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:19:39.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002178)  
distinguished sponsor.

**[02:19:41.740] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-002179)  
Majority Leader.

**[02:19:44.560] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-002180)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:19:45.440] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-002181)  
I move to suspend session

**[02:19:46.460] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-002182)  
for a few minutes.

**[02:19:47.460] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-002183)  
Session is suspended.

**[02:21:03.520] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-002213)  
Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

**[02:21:05.810] Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez** (asr-002213-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Renee Louise M. Co of Kabataan Party-list to interpellate the proposed budget of the Department of Justice.

**[02:21:14.200] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-002213-split-3)  
Representative Renee Louise Co from Kabataan Party-list is hereby recognized for her interpellation.

**[02:21:19.250] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002213-split-4)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good afternoon to the distinguished sponsor and the Department of Justice.

**[02:21:26.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002214)  
Will the gentleman yield to a couple of questions in relation to the budget and the policies by which the budget will be anchored on of the Department of Justice?

**[02:21:38.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002215)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[02:21:39.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002216)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[02:21:41.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002217)  
Madam Speaker, tungkol po ito sa ang unang line of questioning natin, yung nasimula na natin noong budget briefing,

**[02:21:48.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002218)  
yung tungkol po sa pag-transfer ng mga persons deprived of liberty ng

**[02:21:56.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002219)  
New Bilibid Prison.

**[02:21:58.910] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002220)  
Pwede po bang matanong na ilan ang current number of PDLs sa buong Pilipinas ang nasa Bucor?

**[02:22:07.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002221)  
Ilan ang nababawas at nadaragdag ng mga PDLs annually?

**[02:22:26.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002222)  
As of July 31, 2026, the PDL population is at 52,356.

**[02:22:45.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002223)  
Ang narirelease po kada taon ay it varies.

**[02:22:50.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002224)  
So as for 2025 po, ang naririlis po ay...

**[02:22:59.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002226)  
10,529. For the first half nitong taong ito, 4,979 po ang na-release. Ang na-admit po for 2025, 9,948. Ang na-admit rin po for 2026, this first half ng taon, ay 4,549.

**[02:23:24.990] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002227)  
So tama po ba? Parang halos equal or magkapantay yung pagdagdag at pagbawas ng mga PDLs sa New Bilibid Prison?

**[02:23:32.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002228)  
Halos magkapantay po. Looking at from 2022 to 2026, halos parehas.

**[02:23:39.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002229)  
Kung bang makahingi, Madam Speaker, good sponsor ng datos na ito, kung maari ay mag-span po siya ng pano,

**[02:23:48.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002230)  
paano, ilan ang nababawas sa dagdagdag sa New Bilibid Prison in the past five years?

**[02:23:54.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002231)  
Okay. Yes, Madam Speaker. We will provide the data.

**[02:23:59.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002232)  
Maraming salamat po. Yung unang mga tanong po natin kasi sa budget briefing ay,

**[02:24:04.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002233)  
yun nga po, paano yung pinaplano na pagkaroon ng pag-transfer ng mga PDLs given na may mga ibang planong gustong gawin?

**[02:24:18.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002234)  
Dito sa New Bilibid Prison.

**[02:24:20.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002235)  
But following up on my line of inquiry during the committee-level deliberations,

**[02:24:24.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002236)  
pwede po bang matanong if the BUCOR has a decongestion strategy or a master plan

**[02:24:30.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002237)  
given yung mass transfer of PDLs from the New Bilibid Prison to the penal colonies?

**[02:24:41.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002238)  
There is a master plan up to 2028.

**[02:24:46.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002239)  
So inaasahan po natin some 53.

**[02:24:48.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002240)  
6,000 ay more or less makakompleto na yung pag-transfer by two years from now?

**[02:24:58.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002241)  
Yes, because...

**[02:25:00.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002242)  
Yes, because magkaklose na nga po yung New Bilibid Prison, Madam Speaker, this is surely...

**[02:25:12.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002243)  
Maaaring rin po bang ma-furnish ang representation na ito ng master plan?

**[02:25:18.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002244)  
Sa pinagbabatayan, timeline, at kung ano man, para po maisagawa yung mass transfer na ito?

**[02:25:25.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002245)  
Yes, Madam Speaker, we will comply po.

**[02:25:29.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002246)  
May I ask kung gaano po kadalas na si-check ng Department of Justice or yung BUCOR,

**[02:25:35.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002247)  
yung pagsunod doon sa master plan na nakalaan para po sa mass transfer?

**[02:25:48.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002248)  
So, they're guided by the master plan.

**[02:26:03.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002249)  
Yun po po yung goal po nila from 30,000 sa NBP, nabababa po nila ng 20,000.

**[02:26:11.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002250)  
They are looking at...

**[02:26:13.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002251)  
Maaaring...

**[02:26:16.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002252)  
Yung momentum po for...

**[02:26:18.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002253)  
And pursuing the decongestion rate na ideal ay patuloy na hindi implementan naman po ng ating Bureau of Corrections.

**[02:26:29.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002254)  
Yung master plan po yung naging guide nila sa pag-transfer,

**[02:26:33.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002255)  
kung saan po dadalhin yung ating PDL at yung decongestion rate po ay doon rin po naka-alitsunod.

**[02:26:44.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002256)  
Madam Speaker, this is Gish Coli.

**[02:26:47.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002257)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:26:48.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002258)  
good sponsor.

**[02:26:49.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002259)  
Napansin natin na sa budget ng Department of Justice,

**[02:26:54.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002260)  
meron pong nakalaan na 519 million na capital outlay for BUCOR.

**[02:27:01.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002261)  
Magkano po dito ay para sa construction or rehabilitation of penal colonies and correctional facilities outside of NCR?

**[02:27:10.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002262)  
Meron po ba?

**[02:27:12.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002263)  
Or nakatayo na po ba ito?

**[02:27:14.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002264)  
So,

**[02:27:14.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002265)  
so,

**[02:27:18.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002266)  
,

**[02:27:19.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002267)  
roughly about 474 million po yung nakalaan para sa pagpapagawa po ng ating Bureau of Correction Facility.

**[02:27:27.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002268)  
Nakalaan po ito sa Nueva Ecija po.

**[02:27:31.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002269)  
Kasi doon po plano, ilagay po yung ating bagong Bureau of Correction Facility.

**[02:27:38.720] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002270)  
Madam Speaker, this is Gish Coli.

**[02:27:40.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002271)  
At tama po na itatayo pa lang ito kung magtuloy-tuloy yung pag-uusap natin.

**[02:27:48.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002272)  
At maigrat po ito sa Department of Justice.

**[02:27:51.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002273)  
Itatayo pa lang po ito, Madam Speaker.

**[02:27:53.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002274)  
Kailan po yung target completion date nitong new penal colony sa Nueva Ecija?

**[02:28:03.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002275)  
Hopefully po next year, may tayo na po itong facility na ito, Madam Speaker, at this is Gish Coli.

**[02:28:09.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002276)  
Inaasahan din po natin, gaya po ng sinabi sa committee, na maging up to standards ang lahat ng mga facilities at services.

**[02:28:18.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002277)  
na itatayo dito sa bagong penal colony sa Nueva Ecija.

**[02:28:25.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002278)  
Pero kailangan lang po natin i-check dahil po kung ang target completion, at sana hindi madelay, ay next year.

**[02:28:32.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002279)  
Pero may target na matapos yung pag-mass transfer by 2028,

**[02:28:40.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002280)  
hindi po sana either maantala o magkaroon ng iba't ibang arrangements.

**[02:28:46.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002281)  
Kung saan, habang tinatayo,

**[02:28:48.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002282)  
pa yung Nueva Ecija penal colony ay baka ma-transfer sa ibang mga detention facilities ang mga dapat i-a-assign doon sa Nueva Ecija.

**[02:29:01.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002283)  
Maybe can I get a guarantee from the Bureau of Corrections na kung ano man po yung pupuntahang mga destinasyon ng mga PDLs,

**[02:29:12.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002284)  
gaya po ng sinabi sa committee level meeting, malapit sa pamilya.

**[02:29:18.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002285)  
Hindi matatransfer ka sa kung saang penal colony nang walang paalam sa kanilang mga pamilya ng mga lawyers at lahat ng mga tumutulong sa mga kaso nila.

**[02:29:31.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002286)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:29:33.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002287)  
Yes, Madam Speaker, the Bureau of Corrections guarantee na as much as possible kung saan po malapit yung pamilya ng PDL, doon po siya maidadala.

**[02:29:44.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002288)  
At sana po.

**[02:29:48.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002289)  
Ang pagbabago or update tungkol sa kung saan siya, ang isang PDL mapunta, ay ito po ay mapapaalam sa ating pamilya, sa kanilang mga lawyers at hindi mabibigla.

**[02:30:00.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002290)  
na nawala na lang po sila doon sa penal colony.

**[02:30:02.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002291)  
I assume, and I assume the B Corp is aware of this,

**[02:30:06.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002292)  
sensitibo din po yung hinahawak nilang matter.

**[02:30:10.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002293)  
Yes, we, the Bureau of Corrections guarantee po na ipapaalam rin po ito

**[02:30:15.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002294)  
kung sakaling dumating po sa ganong punto.

**[02:30:19.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002295)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[02:30:20.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002296)  
mangingina lang po ang representasyon na ito

**[02:30:23.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002297)  
ng listahan ng balak ng B Corp

**[02:30:28.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002298)  
na magtayo or magpaayos ng penal colonies and correctional facilities

**[02:30:34.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002299)  
na pupuntahan ng iba't-ibang mga PDLs.

**[02:30:37.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002300)  
Can that be accomplished by next week, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

**[02:30:41.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002301)  
Yes, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[02:30:44.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002302)  
Okay, maraming salamat po.

**[02:30:46.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002303)  
Pupunta na ba po ako sa susunod na mga katanungan?

**[02:30:50.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002304)  
Ito rin po ay follow-up doon sa tanong natin sa committee-level briefings

**[02:30:54.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002305)  
kung saan we confirmed the existence

**[02:30:58.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002306)  
of Task Force on Anti-Terrorism na bahagi

**[02:31:03.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002307)  
o pinamumunuan ng Department of Justice.

**[02:31:07.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002308)  
Can I confirm this?

**[02:31:08.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002309)  
Once again, on the floor, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:31:28.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002313)  
There is no special task force under the DOJ po

**[02:31:55.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002314)  
na regarding sa anti-terrorism.

**[02:31:58.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002315)  
It falls under kung ano po yung General Commission of Crimes

**[02:32:02.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002316)  
yung pag-investigate po dito.

**[02:32:05.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002317)  
Pero sila po ay miyembro ng

**[02:32:07.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002318)  
regular member lang po sila ng Anti-Terrorism Council,

**[02:32:16.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002319)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[02:32:18.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002320)  
Yung nabanggit po natin na anecdote

**[02:32:21.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002321)  
kung saan gusto natin manghingi ng explanation

**[02:32:24.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002322)  
sa Department of Justice

**[02:32:27.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002323)  
ay meron pong mga agents

**[02:32:28.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002324)  
of Bureau of Immigration

**[02:32:31.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002325)  
na may suot po na vest

**[02:32:34.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002326)  
na ang label na nakalagay po dito

**[02:32:38.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002327)  
ay Anti-Terror Task Force.

**[02:32:41.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002328)  
Ano po bang explanation dito?

**[02:32:43.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002329)  
And narinig po natin on the floor, on the committee

**[02:32:45.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002330)  
na meron pong task force

**[02:32:47.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002331)  
on anti-terrorism na bahagi ang DOJ.

**[02:32:50.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002332)  
So kinaklarify po natin yung nature nito.

**[02:32:52.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002333)  
Bahagi po ba sila?

**[02:32:54.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002334)  
Lead po ba sila nito?

**[02:32:56.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002335)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:32:57.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002336)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[02:33:02.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002337)  
Supporting agency daw po ang

**[02:33:04.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002338)  
Bureau of Immigration sa Anti-Terrorism Council.

**[02:33:08.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002339)  
Kaya po siguro makakikita na may ibang ahente

**[02:33:12.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002340)  
ng Bureau of Immigration na may suot po

**[02:33:15.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002341)  
ng Anti-Terror Task Force.

**[02:33:17.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002342)  
I did not hear properly the first phrase,

**[02:33:21.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002343)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:33:22.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002344)  
May the sponsor...

**[02:33:23.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002345)  
Supporting agency po yung Bureau of Immigration

**[02:33:25.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002346)  
ng Anti-Terror Task Force.

**[02:33:27.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002347)  
So, baka po yun po yung rason kung bakit may kita po

**[02:33:33.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002348)  
na ibang ahente po ng ating Bureau of Immigration

**[02:33:35.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002349)  
ay may suot po ng best na nakalagay po

**[02:33:39.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002350)  
yung Anti-Terror Task Force.

**[02:33:42.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002351)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:33:45.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002352)  
A cursory search through Google or the internet

**[02:33:49.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002353)  
yields results saying na meron pong

**[02:33:52.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002354)  
DOJ Task Force on Anti-Terrorism.

**[02:33:54.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002355)  
Dito po, mga newscasts,

**[02:33:57.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002356)  
news articles po sila on the DOJ website

**[02:34:01.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002357)  
na sinasabi that they've scored another victory

**[02:34:04.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002358)  
in the courts to convict, for example,

**[02:34:08.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002359)  
an individual or a group,

**[02:34:12.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002360)  
pero deleted na po sila.

**[02:34:14.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002361)  
Failing na po yung links.

**[02:34:15.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002362)  
Kiklik po namin, wala pong lumalabas.

**[02:34:19.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002363)  
So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[02:34:21.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002364)  
we'd like to ask an explanation.

**[02:34:22.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002365)  
What is the DOJ Task Force on Anti-Terrorism?

**[02:34:27.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002366)  
It's a regular task force po ng team of prosecutors

**[02:34:40.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002367)  
na yun lang po yung kanilang inuimbestigan

**[02:34:42.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002368)  
at pinaprosecute ng mga kaso

**[02:34:43.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002369)  
relating to anti-terrorism laws po.

**[02:34:48.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002370)  
Madam Speaker, this is English colleague.

**[02:34:51.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002371)  
So, meron pong DOJ Task Force on Anti-Terrorism.

**[02:34:55.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002372)  
Hindi po tama yung kanina na wala.

**[02:34:57.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002373)  
Wala pong special task force.

**[02:35:06.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002374)  
Regular task force lang po siya to investigate

**[02:35:08.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002375)  
anti-terrorism cases.

**[02:35:12.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002376)  
Madam Speaker, this is English colleague.

**[02:35:14.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002377)  
Ano po bang difference ng regular and special task force,

**[02:35:18.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002378)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

**[02:35:27.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002379)  
Well, yung regular task force po,

**[02:35:45.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002380)  
parang grouping lang po within the DOJ ng mga fiskal.

**[02:35:50.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002381)  
Saan, focus lang po sila dun sa ganoong kaso.

**[02:35:52.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002382)  
So, yung special task force po,

**[02:35:55.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002383)  
more on created rin by,

**[02:35:57.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002384)  
law,

**[02:35:58.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002385)  
yung lalo na po yung sa

**[02:36:00.780] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002386)  
against anti-trafficking,

**[02:36:03.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002387)  
sa

**[02:36:04.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002388)  
bousy,

**[02:36:09.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002389)  
sa cybercrime,

**[02:36:10.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002390)  
yun po yung mga special task force.

**[02:36:11.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002391)  
Ito po, yung sa anti-terrorism laws na cases,

**[02:36:16.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002392)  
group of prosecutors lang po,

**[02:36:17.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002393)  
yun lang po yung handle nila.

**[02:36:19.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002394)  
Hindi siya, parang regular task force lang po sila,

**[02:36:23.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002395)  
regular prosecutors,

**[02:36:25.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002396)  
focused on investigating,

**[02:36:27.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002397)  
yung anti-terrorism cases.

**[02:36:30.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002398)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[02:36:33.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002399)  
may department order ba,

**[02:36:35.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002400)  
or whatever legal basis,

**[02:36:38.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002401)  
na naglalatag kung ano pong mandato nito,

**[02:36:41.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002402)  
that creates and establishes this task force?

**[02:36:59.710] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002406)  
there is a department order within the DOJ regarding that task force.

**[02:37:02.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002407)  
We would provide the good,

**[02:37:05.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002408)  
the distinguished colleague na

**[02:37:06.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002409)  
mabigay po itong department order po na ito.

**[02:37:11.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002410)  
Maraming salamat po,

**[02:37:12.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002411)  
inintay po natin yung department order

**[02:37:14.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002412)  
at yung paglalatag, no,

**[02:37:17.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002413)  
ng terms of reference,

**[02:37:18.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002414)  
ng mandato,

**[02:37:20.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002415)  
ng task force na ito.

**[02:37:21.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002416)  
Dahil, so to clarify,

**[02:37:24.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002417)  
you mentioned that it is made up of prosecutors,

**[02:37:26.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002418)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:37:27.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002419)  
good sponsor,

**[02:37:28.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002420)  
pero may involvement po ba ang Bureau of Immigration na ito?

**[02:37:31.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002421)  
Also, to make the question more general,

**[02:37:34.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002422)  
interagency po ba ang task force na ito?

**[02:37:37.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002423)  
Pwede po bang magbigay ng,

**[02:37:39.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002424)  
ang DOJ ng mga ibang-ibang ahensya

**[02:37:42.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002425)  
na involved sa operations ng task force na ito?

**[02:38:22.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002442)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[02:38:25.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002443)  
Yung coordination lang po

**[02:38:27.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002446)  
with the other agencies

**[02:38:29.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002447)  
is through the ATC,

**[02:38:31.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002448)  
the Anti-Terrorism Council.

**[02:38:34.420] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002449)  
Pero yung

**[02:38:35.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002450)  
So, ang involvement po ng

**[02:38:54.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002451)  
DOJ

**[02:38:55.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002452)  
regarding po sa Anti-Terrorism

**[02:38:58.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002453)  
Council

**[02:39:00.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002454)  
is kapag nag-create po ng mga TWG

**[02:39:02.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002455)  
yung ating ATC,

**[02:39:04.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002456)  
usually doon po in-involve yung DOJ.

**[02:39:07.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002457)  
At yung coordination

**[02:39:08.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002458)  
po ng ating ibang law enforcement

**[02:39:10.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002459)  
agencies at yung intelligence

**[02:39:11.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002460)  
agencies

**[02:39:13.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002461)  
through the ATC po daw

**[02:39:15.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002462)  
ang coordination po nila,

**[02:39:18.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002463)  
the Anti-Terrorism Council.

**[02:39:20.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002464)  
Ang binabahagi po ay explanation

**[02:39:22.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002465)  
kung bakit may involvement

**[02:39:23.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002466)  
ang Bureau of Immigration. May technical work,

**[02:39:25.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002467)  
may technical working group that the DOJ is also part of

**[02:39:27.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002468)  
that's separate

**[02:39:29.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002469)  
from the

**[02:39:30.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002470)  
task force.

**[02:39:33.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002471)  
Ano po yung nature ng technical working group na ito?

**[02:39:35.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002472)  
At ang scope of

**[02:39:37.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002473)  
duties and responsibilities ng DOJ?

**[02:39:47.170] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002475)  
It depends on the nature ng TWG na kine-create po

**[02:39:51.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002476)  
ng ating pong Anti-Terrorism

**[02:39:53.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002477)  
Council. But,

**[02:39:55.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002478)  
in cases na may

**[02:39:57.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002479)  
legal aspect po yung ating pong

**[02:39:59.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002480)  
TWG, lagi pong involved yung

**[02:40:01.720] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002481)  
ating pong DOJ

**[02:40:03.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002482)  
dito sa TWG na ito.

**[02:40:06.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002483)  
Thank you, Madam

**[02:40:07.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002484)  
Speaker, good sponsor. Given

**[02:40:09.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002485)  
po that the Secretary of Justice

**[02:40:11.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002486)  
and therefore the Department is a member of

**[02:40:13.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002487)  
the Anti-Terrorism Council, maari po

**[02:40:15.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002488)  
bang maka-furnish ng copy

**[02:40:17.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002489)  
ang representasyon na ito

**[02:40:19.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002490)  
sa mga technical working groups na bahagi

**[02:40:21.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002491)  
yung DOJ in relation po sa

**[02:40:24.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002492)  
coordination with the Anti-Terrorism Council.

**[02:40:25.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002493)  
Yes, Madam Speaker,

**[02:40:27.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002494)  
we will comply po.

**[02:40:29.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002495)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:40:31.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002496)  
So, ang

**[02:40:33.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002497)  
to go back doon sa question na

**[02:40:35.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002498)  
tinanong natin,

**[02:40:37.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002499)  
inter-agency po ba ang task force?

**[02:40:39.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002500)  
May binigay pong explanation

**[02:40:41.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002501)  
for possibly yung sa Bureau of Immigration,

**[02:40:43.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002502)  
pero we'd like a categorical answer,

**[02:40:45.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002503)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:41:09.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002510)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:41:11.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002511)  
disengish ko ulit ito.

**[02:41:15.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002512)  
Depende po siya sa

**[02:41:17.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002513)  
matter at hand sa

**[02:41:19.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002514)  
Anti-Terrorism Council.

**[02:41:21.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002515)  
Kapag may

**[02:41:23.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002516)  
mga cases where foreigners are

**[02:41:25.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002517)  
involved, tsaka alam po nila

**[02:41:27.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002518)  
ginagawa yung task force including

**[02:41:29.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002519)  
the Bureau of Immigration

**[02:41:31.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002520)  
and yung

**[02:41:33.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002521)  
iba po nating

**[02:41:35.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002522)  
law enforcement agency. So, depende po

**[02:41:37.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002523)  
talaga kung ano po yung nature ng task force

**[02:41:39.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002524)  
na gawin po ng ating pong

**[02:41:41.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002525)  
Anti-Terrorism Council.

**[02:41:45.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002526)  
So, to my understanding, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[02:41:47.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002527)  
you're talking about now a separate task

**[02:41:49.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002528)  
force or is this still the

**[02:41:51.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002529)  
task force

**[02:41:53.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002530)  
on

**[02:41:55.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002531)  
anti-terrorism na

**[02:41:57.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002532)  
ngayon hindi na lang siya

**[02:41:59.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002533)  
prosecutors pero it depends?

**[02:42:13.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002534)  
Meron po talaga silang task force for

**[02:42:15.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002535)  
anti-terrorism cases.

**[02:42:17.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002536)  
Pero kung kinakailangan

**[02:42:19.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002537)  
po ng inter-agency task force for

**[02:42:21.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002538)  
anti-terrorism

**[02:42:23.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002539)  
cases, it flows

**[02:42:25.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002540)  
through the Anti-Terrorism

**[02:42:27.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002541)  
Council po, not necessarily within

**[02:42:29.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002542)  
the DOJ.

**[02:42:31.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002543)  
Sige po, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[02:42:33.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002544)  
tinintay na lang po natin yung

**[02:42:35.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002545)  
report kung saan dinidetali

**[02:42:37.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002546)  
ito at ano po yung scope of

**[02:42:39.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002547)  
responsibilities and duties ng DOJ

**[02:42:41.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002548)  
at ang kanyang mga attached agencies.

**[02:42:43.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002549)  
Tinatanong po natin yung mga tanong

**[02:42:45.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002550)  
na to, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[02:42:47.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002551)  
because it seems

**[02:42:49.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002552)  
to me na baka may overlap.

**[02:42:51.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002553)  
Between this DOJ task force on

**[02:42:53.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002554)  
anti-terrorism and the already established

**[02:42:55.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002555)  
Anti-Terrorism Council.

**[02:42:57.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002556)  
At mula anong napasa ang

**[02:42:59.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002557)  
Anti-Terrorism Act of 2020

**[02:43:01.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002558)  
na nag-establish ng Anti-Terrorism Council,

**[02:43:03.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002559)  
kinaharap na ng mga ibang-ibang

**[02:43:05.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002560)  
civil society organizations

**[02:43:07.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002561)  
and non-government organizations

**[02:43:09.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002562)  
ang harassment cases laban sa

**[02:43:11.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002563)  
kanila. This is because of the

**[02:43:13.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002564)  
task force filing cases

**[02:43:15.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002565)  
na sa dulo po nito may nakikita

**[02:43:17.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002566)  
tayong mga

**[02:43:19.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002567)  
nadidismissed, kalakhan,

**[02:43:21.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002568)  
sa kanila. The ATC

**[02:43:23.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002569)  
itself is already problematic

**[02:43:25.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002570)  
bilang judge, jury, executioner.

**[02:43:27.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002571)  
And so nakaka-alarm akong may mas

**[02:43:29.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002572)  
maluwag at mas malabo pang task force

**[02:43:31.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002573)  
on anti-terrorism na hindi

**[02:43:33.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002574)  
malinaw para sa mamamayang Pilipino

**[02:43:35.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002575)  
kung sino-sino ang mananagot

**[02:43:37.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002576)  
at paano pananagutin

**[02:43:39.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002577)  
kung may mga harassment cases nga pong

**[02:43:41.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002578)  
hinarap at kung ito po ay

**[02:43:43.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002579)  
madidismissed, paano na po

**[02:43:45.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002580)  
yung mga nawala nilang buhay, nawala nilang

**[02:43:47.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002581)  
assets, nawala nilang reputasyon

**[02:43:49.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002582)  
dahil po sa ginawang

**[02:43:51.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002583)  
ganitong red tagging or even terror tagging.

**[02:43:53.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002584)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[02:43:55.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002585)  
I'd like to make

**[02:43:57.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002586)  
my next line

**[02:43:59.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002587)  
of questioning. Ito ay

**[02:44:01.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002588)  
binukas din natin during the

**[02:44:03.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002589)  
committee level deliberations

**[02:44:05.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002590)  
kung saan may nakita nga tayong mga

**[02:44:07.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002591)  
pattern of dismissals under

**[02:44:09.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002592)  
cases filed ng

**[02:44:11.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002593)  
TFPSA and related

**[02:44:13.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002594)  
anti-terrorism legislation.

**[02:44:15.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002595)  
Last year po, nagtanong din po tayo

**[02:44:17.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002596)  
on this

**[02:44:19.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002597)  
matter, but we'd like to ask,

**[02:44:21.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002598)  
meron po bang current conviction rate

**[02:44:23.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002599)  
for cases prosecuted under this

**[02:44:25.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002600)  
laws na may

**[02:44:27.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002601)  
record ang DOJ?

**[02:44:31.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002602)  
So for

**[02:44:33.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002603)  
2025,

**[02:44:37.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002604)  
may mga complaints na

**[02:44:39.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002605)  
tinakil po yung ating pong

**[02:44:41.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002606)  
Anti-Terrorism Act of 2020.

**[02:44:43.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002607)  
There are six complaints

**[02:44:45.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002608)  
na

**[02:44:47.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002609)  
na-resolved.

**[02:44:51.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002611)  
In what manner po

**[02:44:53.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002612)  
sila resolve? Madam Speaker,

**[02:44:55.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002613)  
good sponsor, from my communications

**[02:44:57.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002614)  
last year, there's three ways po kasi ma-resolve iyan.

**[02:45:00.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002615)  
As for the information I have

**[02:45:10.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002616)  
pending complaint pa rin po ang apat

**[02:45:16.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002617)  
dalawa po yung dismissed

**[02:45:17.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002618)  
As for the

**[02:45:20.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002619)  
matter kung paano po siya na-resolve

**[02:45:23.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002620)  
I'll just get the information

**[02:45:26.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002621)  
and we'd like to

**[02:45:27.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002622)  
give a copy na lang po sa ating

**[02:45:29.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002623)  
distinguished colleague

**[02:45:30.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002624)  
Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor

**[02:45:33.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002625)  
we will just simply

**[02:45:35.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002626)  
submit our request

**[02:45:38.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002627)  
and the continuing

**[02:45:40.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002628)  
line of communications that we've established

**[02:45:42.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002629)  
last year sa kung ano pong

**[02:45:44.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002630)  
status updates ng mga

**[02:45:46.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002631)  
complaints na hinandal

**[02:45:49.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002632)  
ng DOJ

**[02:45:51.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002633)  
under

**[02:45:52.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002634)  
the terrorism-related

**[02:45:54.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002635)  
legislation. Madam Speaker,

**[02:45:57.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002636)  
Good Sponsor, pwede po bang

**[02:45:58.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002637)  
makahingi ng feedback

**[02:46:00.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002638)  
the following week

**[02:46:02.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002639)  
tungkol sa ano pong

**[02:46:04.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002640)  
mga updates ng mga kaso na ito?

**[02:46:07.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002641)  
Yes, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[02:46:10.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002642)  
And my last question would be

**[02:46:12.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002643)  
in relation po sa

**[02:46:14.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002644)  
reported na

**[02:46:16.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002645)  
memorandum of agreement

**[02:46:18.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002646)  
that the Public Attorney's Office

**[02:46:20.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002647)  
has with

**[02:46:21.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002648)  
NTFL-CAC. Can we confirm

**[02:46:24.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002649)  
if totoo po bang may memorandum

**[02:46:26.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002650)  
of agreement ang bawat NTFL-CAC?

**[02:46:28.720] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002651)  
Wala po, Madam Speaker,

**[02:46:40.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002652)  
distinguished colleague.

**[02:46:42.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002653)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[02:46:45.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002654)  
this is confirming that

**[02:46:46.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002655)  
wala pong memorandum of agreement

**[02:46:48.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002656)  
para po in any

**[02:46:50.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002657)  
way ay nabibigyan

**[02:46:52.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002658)  
ng mga

**[02:46:53.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002659)  
legal services

**[02:46:56.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002660)  
ang mga

**[02:46:57.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002661)  
dumadaan at nahahandle

**[02:47:00.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002662)  
ng operations ng NTFL-CAC.

**[02:47:04.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002663)  
Wala pong formal MOA

**[02:47:06.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002664)  
but

**[02:47:08.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002665)  
in cases na kailangan po ng legal aid

**[02:47:10.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002666)  
tsaka lang po sila tinatawag,

**[02:47:13.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002667)  
Madam Speaker.

**[02:47:14.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002668)  
Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

**[02:47:16.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002669)  
we will hold

**[02:47:17.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002670)  
the answer steadfast

**[02:47:21.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002671)  
and hihintay na lang po natin

**[02:47:23.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002672)  
yung mga ibang-ibang

**[02:47:24.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002673)  
mga requested information

**[02:47:27.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002674)  
lalo na po

**[02:47:28.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002675)  
mahalaga na

**[02:47:30.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002676)  
dinidetali ito

**[02:47:32.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002677)  
at inaalam kung paano

**[02:47:34.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002678)  
nangyayari yung spending, yung budget

**[02:47:37.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002679)  
ng naaayon doon sa mga

**[02:47:39.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002680)  
programang mga

**[02:47:40.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002681)  
dinetali. Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

**[02:47:43.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002682)  
we ask these questions because

**[02:47:45.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002683)  
we have a standing critique

**[02:47:47.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002684)  
on the

**[02:47:48.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002685)  
anti-terrorism related

**[02:47:51.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002686)  
legislation which has

**[02:47:53.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002687)  
been used as instruments

**[02:47:55.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002688)  
for human rights

**[02:47:57.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002689)  
violations and we have noticed

**[02:47:59.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002690)  
the pattern of these

**[02:48:01.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002691)  
legislations that

**[02:48:03.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002692)  
have been instruments

**[02:48:05.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002693)  
para magkaroon ng mga trump up charges

**[02:48:07.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002694)  
against individuals and organizations

**[02:48:09.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002695)  
that have ended in

**[02:48:11.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002696)  
dismissals in court.

**[02:48:13.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002697)  
So Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

**[02:48:15.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002698)  
we'd like to continue to check

**[02:48:17.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002699)  
kung paano po ito na i-exercise

**[02:48:19.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002700)  
ng implementing agency ng Department

**[02:48:21.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002701)  
of Justice. That's all Madam

**[02:48:23.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002702)  
Speaker, Good Sponsor. Thank you very much

**[02:48:25.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002703)  
for answering this representation.

**[02:48:27.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002704)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker,

**[02:48:29.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002705)  
distinguished colleague. We will comply with all the

**[02:48:31.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002706)  
requirements para po

**[02:48:32.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002707)  
upon checking, makita nyo rin po yung

**[02:48:35.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002708)  
mga pagkukulang rin po

**[02:48:37.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002709)  
ang departamento at least ma-address po

**[02:48:39.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002710)  
natin na maayos.

**[02:48:42.200] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-002711)  
Majority Leader?

**[02:48:43.360] Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez** (asr-002712)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

**[02:48:45.280] Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez** (asr-002713)  
the Honorable Robert Nazal of Bagong

**[02:48:47.080] Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez** (asr-002714)  
Henerasyon Party-list for his interpellation.

**[02:48:49.520] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-002715)  
Representative Robert Nazal

**[02:48:51.080] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-002716)  
of PH Party List is hereby recognized

**[02:48:53.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-002717)  
for his interpellation.

**[02:49:08.390] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002719)  
Good afternoon, Madam Chair,

**[02:49:11.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002720)  
good afternoon, distinguished colleagues, and good afternoon

**[02:49:13.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002721)  
to the DOJ family.

**[02:49:17.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002722)  
I'd like to start with the

**[02:49:19.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002723)  
Public Attorney's Office.

**[02:49:22.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002724)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:49:23.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002725)  
I want to put

**[02:49:24.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002726)  
PAO first because so many Filipinos

**[02:49:27.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002727)  
who cannot afford private counsel

**[02:49:28.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002728)  
depend on its services.

**[02:49:32.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002729)  
In 2025,

**[02:49:34.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002730)  
PAO had a

**[02:49:35.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002731)  
100% obligation rate

**[02:49:37.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002732)  
and a 100% disbursement rate.

**[02:49:40.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002733)  
In other words,

**[02:49:41.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002734)  
ginagamit po talaga nila

**[02:49:42.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002735)  
ang pondong binigay sa kanila.

**[02:49:45.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002736)  
And yet, the public attorney to court

**[02:49:47.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002737)  
ratio remains at 1 is to 2

**[02:49:49.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002738)  
instead of a 1 is to 1 target.

**[02:49:52.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002739)  
So Madam

**[02:49:53.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002740)  
Speaker, distinguished

**[02:49:55.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002741)  
colleague, shouldn't we be giving

**[02:49:57.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002742)  
additional funding to agencies

**[02:49:58.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002743)  
like PAO

**[02:49:59.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002744)  
that have demonstrated that they can

**[02:50:02.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002745)  
fully utilize and disburse their budget

**[02:50:04.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002746)  
especially when there is

**[02:50:07.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002747)  
clearly still an unmet need

**[02:50:09.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002748)  
for their services.

**[02:50:11.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002749)  
Now my question is, how many

**[02:50:13.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002750)  
additional PAO lawyers do you need

**[02:50:15.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002751)  
to move toward a

**[02:50:17.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002752)  
1 is to 1 ratio, public

**[02:50:19.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002753)  
attorney to court ratio?

**[02:50:21.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002754)  
Where are they most

**[02:50:23.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002755)  
urgently needed?

**[02:50:24.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002756)  
And how much additional funding

**[02:50:26.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002757)  
would be required?

**[02:50:49.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002758)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:50:50.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002759)  
distinguished colleague, total of

**[02:50:54.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002760)  
559 public attorney positions

**[02:51:03.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002787)  
tapos may mga around 400 support staff

**[02:51:05.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002788)  
positions

**[02:51:06.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002789)  
para po mahabol yung

**[02:51:08.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002790)  
1 is to 1 na court ratio.

**[02:51:10.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002791)  
As for the deployment po ng ating

**[02:51:12.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002792)  
mga PAO,

**[02:51:14.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002793)  
it would depend kung saan po sila

**[02:51:16.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002794)  
kailangan talaga, lalo na po dun sa mga

**[02:51:18.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002795)  
bagong gawang

**[02:51:20.780] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002796)  
mga korte.

**[02:51:22.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002797)  
At pati po dahil

**[02:51:23.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002798)  
meron pong bagong mandato regarding sa

**[02:51:26.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002799)  
seafarers act po na kailangan po nila

**[02:51:29.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002800)  
mag-render ng

**[02:51:30.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002801)  
public legal assistance

**[02:51:33.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002802)  
para po sa ating mga seafare

**[02:51:35.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002803)  
as to the amount po

**[02:51:40.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002804)  
we'll get the

**[02:51:42.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002805)  
full amount

**[02:51:43.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002806)  
what we have is the

**[02:51:45.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002807)  
medyo conservative na amount na po ito

**[02:51:48.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002808)  
amounting to

**[02:51:49.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002809)  
500 million po, yun po ay

**[02:51:51.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002810)  
consisting of

**[02:51:53.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002811)  
224

**[02:51:54.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002812)  
PAO positions and 400

**[02:51:57.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002813)  
ay 762

**[02:51:59.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002814)  
million amount

**[02:52:00.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002815)  
that's 224

**[02:52:04.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002816)  
public attorney positions

**[02:52:06.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002817)  
then 400 support staff po

**[02:52:08.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002818)  
saan kaya pwedeng kunin ng

**[02:52:11.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002819)  
DOJ yung

**[02:52:13.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002820)  
additional funds para mabigyan po

**[02:52:15.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002821)  
natin ang PAO, kasi meron din naman po

**[02:52:18.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002822)  
ang DOJ

**[02:52:19.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002823)  
na earmarked revenues

**[02:52:20.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002824)  
meron po tayong

**[02:52:21.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002825)  
non-tax revenues

**[02:52:24.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002826)  
ang understanding ko is

**[02:52:33.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002827)  
based on the BESF report

**[02:52:37.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002828)  
7.3.81 billion in non-tax revenues

**[02:52:40.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002829)  
in 2025 ang nakuleta ng DOJ

**[02:52:43.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002830)  
hindi po ba pwedeng kunin doon yung

**[02:52:45.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002831)  
additional na

**[02:52:57.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002836)  
hindi po ba pwedeng gamitin yung winning fee?

**[02:53:03.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002838)  
as for that amount

**[02:53:05.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002839)  
it amounts to 700

**[02:53:07.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002840)  
million daw po

**[02:53:09.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002841)  
but it is already remitted to the

**[02:53:11.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002842)  
treasury

**[02:53:13.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002843)  
hindi na po nila magagamit itong

**[02:53:15.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002844)  
mga amount na ito

**[02:53:19.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002846)  
yan po yung winning fee sa

**[02:53:21.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002847)  
civil cases and labor cases

**[02:53:22.030] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002849)  
Sino po ang nakakolekta nun, Distinguished Colleague?

**[02:53:28.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002850)  
And why was that? Kung meron pa po tayong kulang in terms of yung lawyer to court ratio, bakit di po natin ginamit?

**[02:53:53.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002851)  
So, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yung winning fee po na nakukuha po nila sa civil cases and labor cases, through court order, diretsyo na po yun ng Treasury.

**[02:54:10.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002853)  
Ang nangyayari na lang po, inihintay po nila na mag-create po ng PAO positions ang DBM bago po magamit yung ama.

**[02:54:22.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002854)  
So, it has to go through the DBM.

**[02:54:23.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002855)  
Para magamit niyo po yung pera.

**[02:54:28.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002856)  
Yes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[02:54:30.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002857)  
So, what is the process?

**[02:54:33.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002858)  
Ano hong nag-request ba tayo sa DBM?

**[02:54:38.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002859)  
And when was the request acted upon?

**[02:54:43.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002860)  
Or how long does it take for the request to be acted upon?

**[02:54:50.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002861)  
And ito pong mga pondo na ito, saan po ba siya nag-request?

**[02:54:53.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002862)  
Ano ang nakadeposit?

**[02:54:56.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002863)  
Yung winning fee po sa Bureau of Treasury daw po nakadeposit. Diretsyo daw po siya doon.

**[02:55:02.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002864)  
So, ito yung earmark?

**[02:55:05.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002865)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[02:55:06.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002866)  
So, ito yung winning fee, yan po yung...

**[02:55:10.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002867)  
Can you explain saan po nanggagaling yung winning fee?

**[02:55:13.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002868)  
Kapag favorable judgment po in civil cases and labor cases.

**[02:55:18.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002869)  
And this goes to the PAO?

**[02:55:20.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002870)  
No.

**[02:55:23.190] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002875)  
It goes to the Treasury po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[02:55:27.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002876)  
As for the positions po, nakapag-request na po sila ng additional PAO lawyers.

**[02:55:35.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002877)  
Ang napaproobahan pa lang po ata for 2027 is 87 positions.

**[02:55:40.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002878)  
So 2024 budget, 87, additional 87 pa lang po.

**[02:55:49.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002879)  
Ngayon pa lang po mapupunduhan.

**[02:55:51.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002880)  
So meron pong gap between the creating and also yung pagpundo po doon sa positions.

**[02:56:00.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002881)  
So meron naman pong funding na pumapasok.

**[02:56:03.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002882)  
And do we have a target po kung kailan natin ma-achieve yung 1 is to 1 ratio?

**[02:56:10.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002883)  
As of now, there's no target.

**[02:56:12.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002884)  
That's why they're making a wish list na sana po mabigay yung through Congress yung 500 plus na PAO positions.

**[02:56:21.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002885)  
And 400 plus na support staff para po ma-achieve yung 1 is to 1 ratio.

**[02:56:27.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002886)  
And also, kapag meron po kasing bagong korte, lagi pong nangangailangan ng dagdag.

**[02:56:33.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002887)  
So hindi po po makita kung ano yung final target date kung kailan ma-achieve yung 1 is to 1 ratio hanggat meron pong new trial courts na na-approve or na-create.

**[02:56:48.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002888)  
So, Distinguished Colleague.

**[02:56:51.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002889)  
Madam Speaker, I think agencies that demonstrate good absorptive capacity like the PAO should be supported with additional funding when there is a demonstrated public need.

**[02:57:01.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002890)  
E kitang-kita naman po natin yung pangangailangan.

**[02:57:04.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002891)  
Every time nagdadagdag nga tayo ng korte, kailangan pa magdagdag ng PAO.

**[02:57:07.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002892)  
So what additional amount can PAO realistically absorb and utilize in 2027?

**[02:57:13.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002893)  
Yung binanggit niyo po bang amount, ay kaya niyong i-disperse?

**[02:57:17.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002895)  
Yung additional?

**[02:57:19.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002896)  
Yung set.

**[02:57:21.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002897)  
700 plus billion po, kaya po.

**[02:57:23.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002898)  
Kasi purely mga personal services naman po ito.

**[02:57:29.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002899)  
So kung tutusin, yung winning fee, pwede niyo pong gamitin sana?

**[02:57:38.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002901)  
For additional hirings?

**[02:57:41.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002902)  
Pwede pong gamitin siya for additional allowances.

**[02:57:44.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002903)  
Pero still, the process is, kailangan pong mag-request ng creation ng...

**[02:57:51.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002904)  
PAO positions sa DBM.

**[02:57:53.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002905)  
So I urge Congress, our colleagues in Congress,

**[02:57:57.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002906)  
tsaka yung ating APRO Chair,

**[02:58:00.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002907)  
na sana po, dagdagan po ang pondo ng PAO para magawa po nila yung 1 is to 1 ratio.

**[02:58:05.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002908)  
May I go to my next question, Madam Speaker?

**[02:58:11.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002909)  
One of the biggest concerns of ordinary Filipinos is how long it takes for cases to be resolved.

**[02:58:17.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002910)  
So from the DOJ's end,

**[02:58:19.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002911)  
what are the biggest bottlenecks today?

**[02:58:23.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002912)  
Lack of prosecutors, support staff, case management systems, witnesses, or coordination with the courts?

**[02:58:31.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002913)  
More importantly, what additional budget, personnel, or authority does DOJ need from Congress to help speed up the disposition of cases?

**[02:58:40.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002914)  
So there is a need to increase the prosecutorial arm po ng ating DOJ.

**[02:58:46.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002915)  
They have already...

**[02:58:49.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002916)  
requested sa DBM ng mga additional prosecutorial positions

**[02:58:55.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002917)  
para po mapabilis yung ating pong pag-resolve po ng mga kaso.

**[02:59:01.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002918)  
As of now, staggered po ang commitment ng ating pong DBM

**[02:59:04.420] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002919)  
na ibigay po yung mga prosecutorial positions.

**[02:59:10.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002920)  
And meron rin pong delay sa pag-fill up ng positions na yun

**[02:59:17.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002921)  
dahil po dun sa...

**[02:59:19.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002922)  
iba pong appointment ay kailangan ng presidential appointment.

**[02:59:24.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002923)  
Usually po, umabot ng isang taon.

**[02:59:27.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002924)  
Pero alam ko, from the DOJ themselves,

**[02:59:30.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002925)  
medyo napapababa na po ng 4 to 5 months, 4 to 6 months,

**[02:59:34.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002926)  
yung pag-appoint po ng prosecutors.

**[02:59:38.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002927)  
Yung iba naman po, lalo na po yung mga support staff,

**[02:59:41.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002928)  
usually sa Secretary of Justice naman na po,

**[02:59:44.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002929)  
dumadaan yung pag-appoint.

**[02:59:46.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002930)  
Pero malaki po yung pangailangan po para po sa ating...

**[02:59:49.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002931)  
ating pong mga dagdag na prosecutors.

**[02:59:52.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002932)  
Kasi may ideal number po ang DOJ na at least sana po mapunan

**[02:59:57.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002933)  
para po mas mabilis po yung pag-dispense ng ating pong mga kaso.

**[03:00:00.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002934)  
Based on the CPBRD report, Distinguished Colleague, DOJ is projected to have 7,140 unfilled positions in 2027, including 1,740 in OSEC. Ano po ba ang target natin ngayon para ma-fill yung gap?

**[03:00:25.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002935)  
Actually, yun po yung kulang na ngayon.

**[03:00:26.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002936)  
Kasi this is substantial po eh. And this will definitely affect yung disposition of cases.

**[03:00:34.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002937)  
Yun po yung hinihintay po yung karamihan po is pending presidential appointment.

**[03:00:41.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002938)  
Ilan po ba ang pending due to the presidential appointment? Ilan ang pending dahil sa budgetary concerns?

**[03:00:56.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002939)  
As of now po yung hinihintay po na appointment is 203 po na prosecutorial positions.

**[03:01:11.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002940)  
As for...

**[03:01:19.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002941)  
As for kung ano po yung ine-expect nila na additional positions po para...

**[03:01:26.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002942)  
Dumabi po yung ating mga prosecutors, as for 2026, 237 po. Hopefully yung madagdagan.

**[03:01:39.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002943)  
2027, 227 and 2028, 237 prosecutorial positions.

**[03:01:45.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002944)  
Yung iba pong delay sa pag-fill po ng ating mga positions, yung iba po ay dahil po sa approval naman po ng Civil Service Commission.

**[03:01:55.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002945)  
Of the 7,000...

**[03:01:56.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002946)  
Of the 7,140 unfilled positions, ilan po ba dun ang prosecutorial?

**[03:02:20.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002947)  
866 po yung unfilled prosecutors.

**[03:02:24.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002948)  
866 po yung unfilled prosecutors dun sa 7,140 na unfilled.

**[03:02:30.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002949)  
And we are expecting 237 will be filled by 2027.

**[03:02:37.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002950)  
Additional 227 only.

**[03:02:40.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002951)  
So that still leaves us with a substantial amount of around 600 plus.

**[03:02:47.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002952)  
And ang problema po dun is mostly budgetary?

**[03:02:50.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002953)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[03:02:54.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002954)  
Adding to the...

**[03:03:08.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002956)  
Yung budgetary constraints po rin po yung main problem po ng ating DOJ.

**[03:03:15.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002957)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues.

**[03:03:21.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002958)  
The DOJ has approximately...

**[03:03:24.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002959)  
P15.3 billion in accumulated earmarked revenues, revenue balances, as of December 31, 2025.

**[03:03:37.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002960)  
Pero hindi po ba pwedeng gamitin yung earmarked revenue?

**[03:03:45.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002961)  
Para dun sa mga kakulangan natin sa funding?

**[03:03:49.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002962)  
Or are these mostly...

**[03:03:52.370] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002963)  
Is this earmarked revenue including attached agencies po ba?

**[03:03:58.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002967)  
The DOJ cannot use that.

**[03:04:00.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002968)  
There are specific limitations per attached agency as to the allowed spending of that revenue po.

**[03:04:09.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002969)  
Lalo na po yung sa LRA, OSG, and...

**[03:04:14.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-002970)  
How about yung non-tax revenues?

**[03:04:24.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003007)  
Meron tayong P17.381 billion in non-tax collection.

**[03:04:30.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003008)  
Can't we use that?

**[03:04:37.420] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003009)  
Meron na pong limitasyon yung sa paggamit yung non-tax revenues po.

**[03:04:54.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003010)  
Ano yung... saan po natin siya...

**[03:04:58.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003011)  
What is its intended use?

**[03:05:11.530] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003015)  
Sa Victim's Compensation Program po.

**[03:05:15.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003016)  
Ah, so only for the Victim's Compensation?

**[03:05:17.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003017)  
Yes po.

**[03:05:18.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003018)  
So, yan yung off-budget?

**[03:05:24.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003020)  
Na sinasabi?

**[03:05:25.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003021)  
Yung off-budget?

**[03:05:27.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003023)  
Madam Speaker.

**[03:05:28.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003024)  
So, off-budget specifically for awards to victims of unjust imprisonment or detention?

**[03:05:34.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003025)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[03:05:37.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003026)  
In 2025 po, you had... ganung kalaki yung nakulekta natin?

**[03:05:43.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003027)  
17 billion ba?

**[03:05:44.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003028)  
Yeah.

**[03:05:45.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003029)  
Including attached agencies po.

**[03:05:48.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003030)  
No, no.

**[03:05:49.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003031)  
How much is the total amount para dun sa... na nakulekta?

**[03:05:52.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003032)  
As of now?

**[03:05:53.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003033)  
Yung off-budget account lang.

**[03:05:55.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003034)  
Yung off-budget account lang.

**[03:05:56.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003035)  
Yung for awards to victims of unjust imprisonment and detention.

**[03:06:01.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003036)  
As for... may I clarify if it's including all the attached agencies under the DOJ?

**[03:06:08.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003037)  
Because...

**[03:06:09.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003038)  
Yes.

**[03:06:10.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003039)  
Yes.

**[03:06:20.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003049)  
Yes.

**[03:06:23.510] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003052)  
Ito ba yung 187?

**[03:06:29.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003053)  
Kasi ang income po ay totaling... 2025 income po ay 17 million.

**[03:06:33.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003054)  
As per records po ng ating po department of DOJ, ng Department of Justice, 17,810,728 po yung actual income ng buong DOJ including the attached agencies.

**[03:06:50.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003055)  
The BSF table in draft reports, ang nakalagay po doon in receipts and ang resibo na natanggap is 187.937 million.

**[03:07:02.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003056)  
Is that correct?

**[03:07:04.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003057)  
As of 2025?

**[03:07:13.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003058)  
Pero yung reported expenditure was only 19.3.

**[03:07:20.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003081)  
May I ask why the utilization is so low?

**[03:07:28.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003082)  
May we clarify, ano po yung 187?

**[03:07:34.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003083)  
Ito yung off-budget account for awards to victims of unjust imprisonment.

**[03:07:52.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003086)  
As per records po ng DOJ, ang non-tax revenue lang po talaga ay...

**[03:07:59.970] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003087)  
Hindi, meron kayong off-budget account based on the BSF for awards to victims of unjust imprisonment.

**[03:08:10.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003088)  
Based on yung 2025 data po, 187 million in receipts. Tapos 19.3 ang nagastos.

**[03:08:40.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003089)  
So my question is, why is the utilization so low? Is the problem lack of awareness, restrictive requirements, processing delays, or simply a low number of qualified claims?

**[03:08:55.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003090)  
It depends on kung mag-claim po yung aplikante. And as you know, yung batas po natin regarding victims' compensation,

**[03:09:06.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003091)  
yung amount po dun is limited pa rin po to 1,000 per...

**[03:09:10.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003092)  
month? 10,000?

**[03:09:15.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003093)  
So basically...

**[03:09:17.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003094)  
Medyo maliit pa po. There is a need to update the Victims' Compensation Program.

**[03:09:23.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003095)  
When was this last updated, Distinguished Sponsor?

**[03:09:33.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003097)  
Last, ito pong batas na kung saan pinagbabasahan po natin itong Victims' Compensation Program ay 1992 pa po.

**[03:09:40.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003098)  
34 years na po ang nakalipas. Kaya yung amounts...

**[03:09:46.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003099)  
So ang binibigay pagka ikaw ay unjustly nakulong...

**[03:09:50.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003100)  
Ganon pa rin po yung amount na...

**[03:09:51.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003101)  
1,000 a month.

**[03:09:54.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003102)  
10,000 a month.

**[03:09:55.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003103)  
1,000?

**[03:09:58.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003105)  
One time 10,000 po.

**[03:10:00.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003106)  
One time na 10,000?

**[03:10:05.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003107)  
Tawawa naman po ba lang?

**[03:10:06.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003108)  
That's why there is a need to update, dalo po.

**[03:10:08.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003109)  
So...

**[03:10:09.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003110)  
So this is...

**[03:10:10.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003111)  
This should be updated by Congress or...

**[03:10:14.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003113)  
Can't it be initially po adjusted through a department order or an executive order?

**[03:10:19.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003114)  
By law po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[03:10:22.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003115)  
So hopefully po, ma-adjust na po itong amount na ito.

**[03:10:25.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003116)  
So Distinguished Sponsor, dapat po ayusin na natin ito.

**[03:10:28.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003117)  
Kaya tawawa naman yung mga biktima.

**[03:10:31.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003118)  
We're willing to work with your office po, Distinguished Colleague, Madam Speaker.

**[03:10:35.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003119)  
Sige po. So this is one thing that we should take note of, we should adjust.

**[03:10:39.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003120)  
Yes.

**[03:10:40.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003121)  
I-update na po natin yung batas.

**[03:10:44.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003122)  
How about data po on overstaying prisoners?

**[03:10:51.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003123)  
Meron po ba tayong data on that?

**[03:10:59.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003124)  
No data and no overstaying data on...

**[03:11:05.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003125)  
Sa pagkakasabi po na atin pong Bureau of Corrections...

**[03:11:09.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003126)  
There's no data because wala na rin pong overstaying.

**[03:11:13.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003127)  
So lahat po ng supposed na overstaying ay napakawala na?

**[03:11:18.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003128)  
Everyone due to be released has been released naman daw po as per our DOJ and our Bureau of Corrections.

**[03:11:32.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003129)  
Do we have that data? Can you share that with the...

**[03:11:35.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003130)  
At least the reports on sino po yung mga overstaying, gano'ng katagal.

**[03:11:39.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003131)  
Na silang overstaying and then when were they released?

**[03:11:42.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003132)  
Yes. Madam Speaker, we will submit the data.

**[03:11:51.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003133)  
On the Bucor, balik po tayo sa Bucor, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[03:11:57.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003134)  
Bucor's authorized uniform positions increased from 9,133 in 2025 to 11,133 in 2027.

**[03:12:07.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003135)  
But the staffing summaries...

**[03:12:09.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003136)  
It still shows only 8,464 field positions.

**[03:12:15.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003137)  
May I ask, Distinguished Sponsor, what is preventing Bucor from filling these positions?

**[03:12:21.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003138)  
Is it recruitment, training capacity, funding, or administrative processing?

**[03:12:27.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003139)  
Madam Speaker, for the reasons kung bakit hindi pa field itong mga posisyon nito,

**[03:12:35.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003140)  
it is primarily attributable to the additional...

**[03:12:39.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003141)  
Positions created pursuant to DBM-approved restructuring of the Bureau,

**[03:12:44.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003142)  
including 1,000 new positions for correction officers.

**[03:12:48.720] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003143)  
To facilitate the filling of these positions,

**[03:12:52.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003144)  
the Bureau has requested the approval of a 3-year CSE-approved qualification standards for correction officers.

**[03:13:00.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003145)  
So ito pong qualification standards ay under review pa po ng ating pong CSE office.

**[03:13:06.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003146)  
In the meantime po, yung other vacancies naman,

**[03:13:09.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003147)  
po ay na-address through recruitment and appointment ng processes.

**[03:13:15.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003148)  
Medyo lumaki lang po dahil po dito sa 1,000 new positions na na-restructure po na ating pong DBM.

**[03:13:24.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003149)  
Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[03:13:27.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003150)  
Let me go to my next question.

**[03:13:29.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003151)  
In 2025, 33.9% of the 404,124 cases, decided cases, were dismissed by the trial.

**[03:13:39.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003152)  
This is a substantial number.

**[03:13:43.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003153)  
What are the major causes of these dismissals?

**[03:13:46.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003154)  
Insufficient evidence, witness problems, weaknesses in investigation, procedural issues, or something else?

**[03:13:54.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003155)  
What additional resources or reforms does the National Prosecution Service need to reduce avoidable dismissals

**[03:14:01.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003156)  
and strengthen the cases brought before the courts?

**[03:14:09.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003157)  
So, there are a number of reasons kung bakit po nadidismiss ng RTC.

**[03:14:24.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003158)  
Ang commitment po ng DOJ is that yung standard po na-impose po sa kanila,

**[03:14:34.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003159)  
yung reasonable certainty of conviction na standard,

**[03:14:39.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003160)  
yun po na-impose po sa kanila.

**[03:14:39.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003162)  
At yung reasonable certainty po yung susundan nila para po maiwasan yung pag-dismiss po ng ating mga kaso sa Regional Trial Court.

**[03:14:46.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003163)  
So, it means working closely with the law enforcement agencies na yung available ng evidence,

**[03:14:53.420] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003164)  
nakahanda na po agad para kung sakali, sa tingin po ng ating prosecutor, medyo solid na po.

**[03:15:00.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003165)  
yung foundation for filing a case

**[03:15:02.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003166)  
and pursuing a case

**[03:15:03.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003167)  
na i-file po nila yung necessary

**[03:15:06.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003168)  
information. So, in the

**[03:15:08.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003169)  
past po, based talaga

**[03:15:10.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003170)  
on the data,

**[03:15:12.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003171)  
parang karamihan was

**[03:15:13.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003172)  
kulang po sa ebidensya

**[03:15:15.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003173)  
or mahina yung kasong na prepare natin.

**[03:15:26.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003174)  
Well, there are a number of reasons po

**[03:15:28.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003175)  
kung bakit po dinidismiss po ng

**[03:15:30.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003176)  
court.

**[03:15:32.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003177)  
Pero majority naman po,

**[03:15:37.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003178)  
medyo mataas naman po yung ating

**[03:15:39.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003179)  
conviction rate pagdating po sa

**[03:15:40.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003180)  
prosecuting cases.

**[03:15:43.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003181)  
Meron bang international standard

**[03:15:45.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003182)  
yan?

**[03:15:54.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003183)  
There is no international

**[03:15:55.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003184)  
standard for conviction po.

**[03:15:58.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003185)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Court.

**[03:16:02.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003186)  
Thank you for that,

**[03:16:03.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003187)  
Distinguished Sponsor.

**[03:16:05.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003188)  
May I go now to the

**[03:16:09.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003189)  
Bureau of Immigration.

**[03:16:12.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003190)  
So, may we ask the DOJ

**[03:16:13.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003191)  
and the BI to clarify and

**[03:16:15.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003192)  
standardize the rules on departure requirements

**[03:16:18.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003193)  
because

**[03:16:19.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003194)  
there seems to be a confusion on the ground.

**[03:16:23.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003195)  
For Barangay

**[03:16:23.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003196)  
Kagawads, meron pong

**[03:16:25.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003197)  
mga report na

**[03:16:27.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003198)  
that the BI requires

**[03:16:28.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003199)  
a DILG travel authority

**[03:16:31.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003200)  
before departure.

**[03:16:33.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003201)  
While others traveling

**[03:16:35.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003202)  
under apparently similar circumstances

**[03:16:37.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003203)  
are not asked for one.

**[03:16:41.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003204)  
If a Barangay Kagawad

**[03:16:42.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003205)  
is traveling abroad

**[03:16:43.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003206)  
purely for personal

**[03:16:46.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003207)  
reasons at his or

**[03:16:48.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003208)  
her own expense

**[03:16:49.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003209)  
and the Punong Barangay has already approved

**[03:16:52.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003210)  
the leave or the travel

**[03:16:54.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003211)  
authority, is a separate

**[03:16:56.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003212)  
DILG foreign travel authority

**[03:16:58.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003213)  
still legally required?

**[03:17:04.990] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003215)  
Kailangan pa rin daw po, ah, as per the Bureau of Immigration

**[03:17:08.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003216)  
kasi DILG issuance daw po

**[03:17:10.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003217)  
yung requirement na ito.

**[03:17:12.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003218)  
So, hindi talaga

**[03:17:14.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003219)  
sapat na mag-issue

**[03:17:16.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003220)  
lang ng travel authority ang kapitan.

**[03:17:18.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003221)  
Kailangan po nang magpaalam

**[03:17:20.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003222)  
sa DILG. Ano po yung

**[03:17:22.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003223)  
legal basis nun? And under

**[03:17:24.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003224)  
exactly what circumstances

**[03:17:26.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003225)  
should the BI require it?

**[03:17:28.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003226)  
Madam Speaker, there is a DILG

**[03:17:38.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003227)  
memorandum circular regarding this matter

**[03:17:40.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003228)  
daw po. Ang

**[03:17:42.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003229)  
nire-request po ng ating DILG

**[03:17:44.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003230)  
is ang Bureau of Immigration

**[03:17:46.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003231)  
lang po ang mag-implement. So,

**[03:17:48.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003232)  
there is, the basis is with the

**[03:17:50.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003233)  
DILG po,

**[03:17:52.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003234)  
Madam Speaker. So, siguro dapat po

**[03:17:54.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003235)  
alam lang ng

**[03:17:56.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003236)  
alam lang talaga lahat ng

**[03:17:58.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003237)  
procedure kasi parang ang dami po

**[03:18:00.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003238)  
nangyayari. May mga tumatawag

**[03:18:02.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003239)  
sa amin eh. Kaya ayoko naman na tumatawag

**[03:18:04.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003240)  
pa ako kay Commissioner para lang

**[03:18:06.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003241)  
para lang sa mga ganyang problema.

**[03:18:08.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003242)  
Dapat lang po siguro maklear

**[03:18:10.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003243)  
natin kasi ang daming

**[03:18:12.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003244)  
tumatawag, ang daming nakikiusap

**[03:18:14.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003245)  
na nagkakaroon sila ng

**[03:18:16.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003246)  
experience na pagdating dun

**[03:18:18.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003247)  
sa ano, hindi po nila alam

**[03:18:20.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003248)  
kung ano yung kailangan nila eh.

**[03:18:22.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003249)  
Minsan kasi pinapayagan sila na may TA

**[03:18:24.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003250)  
galing sa kapitan, okay na. And then

**[03:18:26.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003251)  
yung iba naman,

**[03:18:28.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003252)  
I actually experienced the same kind of

**[03:18:30.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003253)  
inconsistency. I was

**[03:18:32.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003254)  
once traveling abroad with my 12-year-old

**[03:18:34.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003255)  
son. Normally, I do not need

**[03:18:36.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003256)  
a DSWD travel clearance

**[03:18:38.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003257)  
because a legitimate minor

**[03:18:40.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003258)  
traveling with either biological parents

**[03:18:42.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003259)  
is exempt, di ba? So, pwedeng isa na.

**[03:18:44.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003260)  
Isa lang. But on one

**[03:18:46.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003261)  
occasion, tinanong po ako

**[03:18:48.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003262)  
ng isang immigration officer

**[03:18:50.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003263)  
ng DSWD

**[03:18:52.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003264)  
authorization. In fact,

**[03:18:54.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003265)  
I had to call

**[03:18:56.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003266)  
someone from the BI so that the

**[03:18:58.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003267)  
proper rule could be explained to the immigration

**[03:19:00.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003268)  
officer. Kasi parang nga nangyayari.

**[03:19:04.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003269)  
Hindi po alam. Iba-iba

**[03:19:06.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003270)  
yung alam nung bawat immigration officer.

**[03:19:08.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003271)  
So, gusto ko lang po malaman bakit

**[03:19:10.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003272)  
po nangyayari ito. Why

**[03:19:12.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003273)  
do different immigration officers appear

**[03:19:14.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003274)  
to have different interpretations of the

**[03:19:16.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003275)  
same requirements?

**[03:19:18.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003276)  
And can DOJ

**[03:19:20.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003277)  
and BI establish and strictly

**[03:19:22.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003278)  
implement one uniform set of departure

**[03:19:24.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003279)  
requirements? Properly

**[03:19:26.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003280)  
brief all immigration officers and clearly

**[03:19:28.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003281)  
publish these requirements so

**[03:19:30.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003282)  
passengers and barangay officials

**[03:19:32.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003283)  
know before going

**[03:19:34.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003284)  
to the airport exactly what documents

**[03:19:36.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003285)  
are required. Hindi dapat depende

**[03:19:38.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003286)  
sa immigration officer

**[03:19:40.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003287)  
na natapat sa iyo kung ano ang

**[03:19:42.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003288)  
requirement.

**[03:19:44.050] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003288-split-2)  
The chair would

**[03:19:44.700] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003289)  
like to inform Representative

**[03:19:46.700] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003290)  
Nazal that his time has expired.

**[03:19:48.700] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003291)  
Please kindly wrap up

**[03:19:50.700] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003292)  
after he answers this question.

**[03:19:52.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003293)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[03:19:54.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003294)  
They are willing to

**[03:19:56.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003295)  
comply

**[03:20:00.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003296)  
with the uniform set of

**[03:20:02.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003297)  
guidelines para po malaman po

**[03:20:04.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003298)  
ng ating mga kababayan

**[03:20:06.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003299)  
lalo na po yung mga ibang

**[03:20:08.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003300)  
kawatni ng gobyerno kung ano po yung

**[03:20:10.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003301)  
requirements na dapat dala po nila

**[03:20:12.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003302)  
pag dadaan po ng

**[03:20:14.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003303)  
immigration. As for the

**[03:20:16.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003304)  
yung mga incidents

**[03:20:18.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003305)  
na ganyan kung saan

**[03:20:20.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003306)  
kailangan pa po ng mas malinaw

**[03:20:22.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003307)  
na pagpapaliwanag ng batas para po

**[03:20:24.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003308)  
sa ating immigration officer.

**[03:20:26.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003309)  
That's why

**[03:20:28.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003310)  
yung ating Bureau of Immigration

**[03:20:30.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003311)  
gusto po medyo yung ating

**[03:20:32.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003312)  
training for the immigration officers

**[03:20:34.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003313)  
at gusto rin po nilang

**[03:20:36.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003314)  
ma-modernize na rin po yung ating batas

**[03:20:38.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003315)  
para po yung standards po

**[03:20:40.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003316)  
ng ating mga immigration officers

**[03:20:42.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003317)  
tumaas na rin po kasi matagal

**[03:20:44.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003318)  
na po yung batas. 1940s pa po yung

**[03:20:46.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003319)  
ating batas ng immigration. And hindi pa

**[03:20:48.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003320)  
na-update? Hindi pa rin po na-update.

**[03:20:50.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003321)  
So kung kaya po

**[03:20:52.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003322)  
nating matulungan yung ating

**[03:20:54.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003323)  
Bureau of Immigration, matulungan po natin.

**[03:20:56.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003324)  
So distinguished sponsor, ang dami po

**[03:20:58.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003325)  
nating trabaho. Maraming tayo i-update.

**[03:21:00.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003326)  
So Madam

**[03:21:02.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003327)  
Speaker,

**[03:21:04.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003328)  
siguro hihingi na lang po ako ng

**[03:21:06.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003329)  
sa DOJ

**[03:21:08.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003330)  
and its attached

**[03:21:10.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003331)  
agencies ng isang

**[03:21:12.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003332)  
GAD utilization

**[03:21:14.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003333)  
and GAD utilization

**[03:21:16.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003334)  
report. Tsaka saan po nila ginagamit?

**[03:21:18.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003335)  
Paano nila ginagamit?

**[03:21:20.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003336)  
Ano na lang, hihingi na lang po

**[03:21:22.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003337)  
ako ng written report. Well, kasi po nilang

**[03:21:24.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003338)  
comply po Madam Speaker.

**[03:21:26.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003339)  
So in closing Madam

**[03:21:28.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003340)  
Speaker, our questions are really

**[03:21:30.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003341)  
intended to identify where Congress

**[03:21:32.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003342)  
can help.

**[03:21:34.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003343)  
Justice delayed affects both

**[03:21:36.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003344)  
the complainant and

**[03:21:38.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003345)  
the accused. If DOJ

**[03:21:40.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003346)  
needs additional prosecutors, personnel,

**[03:21:42.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003347)  
technology, regional

**[03:21:44.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003348)  
funding, or greater access to its

**[03:21:46.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003349)  
legally earmarked revenues to make the

**[03:21:48.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003350)  
system move faster, we would like

**[03:21:50.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003351)  
those requirements clearly placed on

**[03:21:52.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003352)  
record so Congress can

**[03:21:54.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003353)  
consider supporting them. Thank you very much

**[03:21:56.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003354)  
Madam Speaker. Thank you.

**[03:21:58.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003355)  
Distinguished sponsor.

**[03:21:59.980] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003355-split-2)  
Majority Leader.

**[03:22:00.700] Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez** (asr-003356)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we

**[03:22:02.700] Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez** (asr-003357)  
recognize the honorable

**[03:22:04.700] Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez** (asr-003358)  
Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela

**[03:22:06.700] Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez** (asr-003359)  
Women's Party for

**[03:22:08.700] Rep. Javier Miguel Lopez Benitez** (asr-003360)  
her interpellation.

**[03:22:09.980] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003360-split-2)  
Representative

**[03:22:10.700] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003361)  
Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's

**[03:22:12.700] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003362)  
Party-list is hereby recognized

**[03:22:14.700] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003363)  
for her interpellation.

**[03:22:23.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003365)  
Maraming salamat Madam Speaker

**[03:22:26.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003366)  
at magandang hapon sa lahat.

**[03:22:28.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003367)  
First,

**[03:22:30.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003368)  
the Bureau of Corrections submitted its

**[03:22:32.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003369)  
report on the cashless

**[03:22:34.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003370)  
system being implemented

**[03:22:36.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003371)  
across its operating prisons

**[03:22:38.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003372)  
and penal farms. It also included

**[03:22:40.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003373)  
an update on the issue

**[03:22:42.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003374)  
of missing funds from the

**[03:22:44.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003375)  
PDL Trust Fund of the

**[03:22:46.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003376)  
Correctional Institution for Women.

**[03:22:48.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003377)  
Based on the final

**[03:22:50.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003378)  
audit report from its findings

**[03:22:52.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003379)  
dated August 26,

**[03:22:54.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003380)  
2026,

**[03:22:56.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003381)  
the total amount missing from the

**[03:22:58.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003382)  
PDL Trust Fund is

**[03:23:00.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003383)  
6,447,[unclear] pesos.

**[03:23:06.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003384)  
Madam Speaker,

**[03:23:08.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003385)  
item 7.1

**[03:23:10.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003386)  
of their guidelines

**[03:23:12.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003387)  
and procedures

**[03:23:14.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003388)  
on the operations

**[03:23:16.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003389)  
and management of the

**[03:23:18.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003390)  
inmate post-exchange through cashless

**[03:23:20.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003391)  
transactions

**[03:23:22.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003392)  
embodied

**[03:23:24.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003393)  
in BUC-ODG-MC16

**[03:23:26.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003394)  
series of 2024

**[03:23:28.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003395)  
indicate

**[03:23:30.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003396)  
that periodic reports

**[03:23:32.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003397)  
weekly, monthly,

**[03:23:34.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003398)  
semi-annually, and annually

**[03:23:36.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003399)  
are prepared, submitted

**[03:23:38.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003400)  
by the IPEX provider

**[03:23:40.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003401)  
to the Director

**[03:23:42.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003402)  
General of Bucor.

**[03:23:44.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003403)  
Through the Superintendent of the

**[03:23:46.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003404)  
Prison or Penal Farm,

**[03:23:48.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003405)  
the Deputy Director General for

**[03:23:50.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003406)  
Administration and Director,

**[03:23:52.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003407)  
Directorate for Controllership.

**[03:23:54.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003408)  
Now, may we

**[03:23:56.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003409)  
know Madam Speaker from the

**[03:23:58.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003410)  
Distinguished Sponsor,

**[03:24:00.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003411)  
are these periodic reports submitted

**[03:24:02.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003412)  
regularly by the Superintendent

**[03:24:04.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003413)  
of the CIW?

**[03:24:06.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003414)  
Are they submitted weekly,

**[03:24:08.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003415)  
monthly, semi-annually, and

**[03:24:10.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003416)  
annually as provided

**[03:24:12.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003417)  
in their own guidelines?

**[03:24:14.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003418)  
Madam Speaker,

**[03:24:16.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003419)  
as of now,

**[03:24:18.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003420)  
hindi pa po, wala pa pong

**[03:24:20.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003421)  
periodic reports submitted

**[03:24:22.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003422)  
to the BuCor regarding

**[03:24:24.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003423)  
the IPEX kasi hindi pa po nila

**[03:24:26.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003424)  
nai-implement fully

**[03:24:28.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003425)  
itong cashless na

**[03:24:30.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003426)  
programa na

**[03:24:32.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003427)  
nabanggit po ng ating

**[03:24:34.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003428)  
distinguished colleague.

**[03:24:36.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003429)  
So wala pa pong

**[03:24:38.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003430)  
periodic reports

**[03:24:40.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003431)  
as of now.

**[03:24:42.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003432)  
Madam Speaker, it's been

**[03:24:44.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003433)  
two years since these

**[03:24:46.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003434)  
guidelines were issued

**[03:24:48.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003435)  
and I refer

**[03:24:50.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003436)  
specifically to the CIW

**[03:24:52.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003437)  
where

**[03:24:54.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003438)  
this cashless system is already

**[03:24:56.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003439)  
being implemented.

**[03:24:58.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003440)  
So may we know why there

**[03:25:00.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003441)  
is no reporting

**[03:25:02.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003442)  
or at least monitoring

**[03:25:04.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003443)  
of this particular

**[03:25:06.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003444)  
system?

**[03:25:17.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003445)  
Madam Speaker,

**[03:25:18.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003446)  
kasi po ongoing implementation

**[03:25:20.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003447)  
pa rin po.

**[03:25:21.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003448)  
Hindi pa fully digitized

**[03:25:23.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003449)  
yung sistema

**[03:25:25.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003450)  
kung nasaan po yung

**[03:25:26.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003451)  
ating CIW.

**[03:25:28.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003452)  
So

**[03:25:29.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003453)  
wala pa pong

**[03:25:31.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003454)  
periodic reports

**[03:25:33.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003455)  
to comply with.

**[03:25:34.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003456)  
Madam Speaker.

**[03:25:36.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003457)  
Madam Speaker, malinaw

**[03:25:38.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003458)  
yung nakasaad sa guidelines.

**[03:25:40.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003459)  
Bawat linggo, kada buwan,

**[03:25:42.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003460)  
meron pang semi-annually

**[03:25:44.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003461)  
and annually yan.

**[03:25:46.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003462)  
Kaya ho maski lang sana

**[03:25:48.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003463)  
dun sa weekly at monthly, wala pang kahit ano.

**[03:25:56.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003467)  
Madam Speaker,

**[03:25:58.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003468)  
after this incident,

**[03:26:00.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003469)  
yung pag-audit po ng

**[03:26:02.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003470)  
ating Bureau of Corrections

**[03:26:04.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003471)  
nagiging strikto na po sila

**[03:26:06.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003472)  
sa pag-comply with

**[03:26:08.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003473)  
the periodic reports,

**[03:26:10.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003474)  
weekly and monthly,

**[03:26:12.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003475)  
yung reporting required

**[03:26:14.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003476)  
under the circular po.

**[03:26:16.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003477)  
Dapat lang, Madam Speaker,

**[03:26:18.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003478)  
kasi po yung nangyari nga

**[03:26:20.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003479)  
na information na

**[03:26:22.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003480)  
nakaalarma sa representasyon na ito

**[03:26:24.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003481)  
at sa ating kapulungan

**[03:26:26.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003482)  
tungkol dito sa nawawalang

**[03:26:28.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003483)  
CIW PDL Trust Fund.

**[03:26:30.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003484)  
Para lang bigyan ng

**[03:26:32.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003485)  
background ang ating mga kasama

**[03:26:34.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003486)  
tungkol sa pag-ulat

**[03:26:36.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003487)  
ng concerning matter na ito.

**[03:26:38.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003488)  
The PDLs in CIW

**[03:26:40.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003489)  
were initially informed

**[03:26:42.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003490)  
of the missing funds

**[03:26:44.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003491)  
on July 30, 2026.

**[03:26:46.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003492)  
And prior to this,

**[03:26:54.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003496)  
iba-iba po yung information

**[03:26:56.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003497)  
na nakarating sa mga PDLs.

**[03:26:58.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003498)  
Batay na rin sa news reports,

**[03:27:00.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003499)  
from July 30 ang nawawala

**[03:27:02.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003500)  
6 million.

**[03:27:04.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003501)  
August 6 naging 7 million.

**[03:27:06.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003502)  
Nung ating budget briefing,

**[03:27:08.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003503)  
dito na po natin nalaman

**[03:27:10.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003504)  
na nasa 6.4 million

**[03:27:12.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003505)  
yung mga nawawala.

**[03:27:14.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003506)  
At batay po sa report

**[03:27:16.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003507)  
na binigay sa atin

**[03:27:18.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003508)  
ng CIW mismo, ng BuCor,

**[03:27:20.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003509)  
maraming salamat po dito,

**[03:27:22.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003510)  
makakatulong sa ating pagbabantay.

**[03:27:24.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003511)  
Nakita po nila

**[03:27:26.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003512)  
na meron nagastos

**[03:27:28.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003513)  
na nasa

**[03:27:30.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003514)  
1.293 [unclear]

**[03:27:32.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003515)  
para po sa mga

**[03:27:34.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003516)  
bagay, mga pasilidad

**[03:27:36.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003517)  
na ginamit ng

**[03:27:38.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003518)  
ating pampublikong

**[03:27:40.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003519)  
institusyon.

**[03:27:42.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003520)  
At sa ngayon po,

**[03:27:44.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003521)  
ah,

**[03:27:46.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003522)  
for the record lang po,

**[03:27:48.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003523)  
since nag-iiba-iba

**[03:27:50.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003524)  
nga yung figure,

**[03:27:52.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003525)  
magkano na ba talaga

**[03:27:54.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003526)  
ang nawawalang pera

**[03:27:56.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003527)  
sa trust fund ng PDL

**[03:27:58.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003528)  
na kailangang ibalik ng CIW?

**[03:28:00.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003529)  
na kailangang ibalik ng CIW?

**[03:28:02.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003530)  
Tama pa rin po ba

**[03:28:04.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003531)  
yung figure na meron tayo?

**[03:28:06.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003532)  
6,447,

**[03:28:08.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003533)  
[unclear]

**[03:28:10.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003534)  
pesos?

**[03:28:14.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003535)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[03:28:16.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003536)  
hindi pa po final

**[03:28:18.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003537)  
yan na figure.

**[03:28:20.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003538)  
They are conducting

**[03:28:22.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003539)  
a second investigation

**[03:28:24.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003540)  
to fully malaman po

**[03:28:26.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003541)  
kung ano po talaga

**[03:28:28.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003542)  
gaano kalaki yung amount

**[03:28:30.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003543)  
na nawawala, Madam Speaker,

**[03:28:32.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003544)  
para po ma-reconcile

**[03:28:34.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003545)  
yung records rin po

**[03:28:36.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003546)  
in the Bureau of Corrections.

**[03:28:38.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003547)  
Madam Speaker, kailan po

**[03:28:40.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003548)  
natin malalaman yung final

**[03:28:42.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003549)  
na nabilang? Ano po ang

**[03:28:44.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003550)  
timeline ng BuCor

**[03:28:46.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003551)  
pagdating sa investigation na ito?

**[03:28:48.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003552)  
At bukod po sa investigation,

**[03:28:50.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003553)  
meron na rin ba silang

**[03:28:52.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003554)  
isinagawang consultation

**[03:28:54.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003555)  
para malaman naman po

**[03:28:56.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003556)  
kung paano ito makakaapekto

**[03:28:58.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003557)  
sa kalagayan mismo ng

**[03:29:00.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003558)  
mga PDL sa CIW?

**[03:29:02.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003559)  
So meron na po palang

**[03:29:04.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003560)  
final amount. Ang final

**[03:29:06.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003561)  
amount po ay 6.2?

**[03:29:08.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003562)  
6,230,390

**[03:29:10.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003563)  
pesos and

**[03:29:12.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003564)  
44 centavos po

**[03:29:14.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003565)  
yung total

**[03:29:16.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003566)  
balance po

**[03:29:18.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003567)  
na

**[03:29:20.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003568)  
nawawala.

**[03:29:23.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003569)  
So,

**[03:29:24.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003570)  
meron na rin

**[03:29:26.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003571)  
po silang

**[03:29:28.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003572)  
listahan po

**[03:29:30.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003573)  
kung sino

**[03:29:32.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003574)  
po yung

**[03:29:34.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003575)  
may mga

**[03:29:36.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003576)  
highest

**[03:29:38.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003577)  
balances na

**[03:29:48.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003579)  
meron na pong breakdown

**[03:29:50.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003580)  
kung sino po yung

**[03:29:52.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003581)  
mga nawawalan ng amount,

**[03:29:54.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003582)  
Madam Speaker

**[03:29:56.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003583)  
and distinguished colleague.

**[03:29:58.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003584)  
distinguished colleague.

**[03:30:00.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003585)  
So may breakdown na po. If our distinguished colleague would like a copy of the breakdown, we would like to give it to our distinguished colleague, Madam Speaker.

**[03:30:12.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003586)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. And may we also know what are the internal audit service unit findings on the causes of discrepancy?

**[03:30:20.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003587)  
Is this accounting error, negligence, unauthorized withdrawals, misuse theft, or other factors?

**[03:30:26.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003588)  
Madam Speaker, halo-halo na po yung factors kung bakit po nangyari po ito.

**[03:30:35.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003589)  
Yung recording po, yung handling po ng ating mga trust fund officers, lalo na.

**[03:30:41.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003590)  
That's why, because of this incident, may mga pinursu po na cases against those individuals involved in the mismanagement of the said amount.

**[03:30:55.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003591)  
Madam Speaker.

**[03:30:56.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003592)  
Madam Speaker, pwede rin bang maibigay ng ating distinguished sponsor kung magkano na ngayon yung total unaccounted money?

**[03:31:04.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003593)  
Kasi po nagbago po yung sinabi ninyong nawawala, missing. So magbabago rin po yung kung magkano na yung total unaccounted money?

**[03:31:15.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003594)  
So 6,230,390 pesos and 44 cents po yung exact amount na nawawala.

**[03:31:26.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003595)  
Opo. Ilan po dyan yung unaccounted? Kasi po sa inyong report, merong missing pero nagastos na sa iba't ibang kadahilanan at meron din pong unaccounted.

**[03:31:40.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003596)  
Ibig sabihin, hindi po talaga alam kung saan ginasto, saan napunta.

**[03:31:46.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003597)  
So ito na po yung total, Madam Speaker, yung 6.2. Lahat na po ito.

**[03:31:54.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003598)  
Yes.

**[03:31:55.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003599)  
Yan din po yung sinabi natin.

**[03:31:56.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003600)  
Yan kanina na figure nasa 6.4 pero na-correct na po tayo nasa 6.2 yung missing.

**[03:32:04.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003601)  
Pero ang tinatanong ko po yung hindi ma-account na pera.

**[03:32:09.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003602)  
So ma-minus po natin yung mga nakita niyong pinagkagastusan at makukuha po natin yung unaccounted money.

**[03:32:16.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003603)  
Nakupunin na lang po natin yung exact figure from our distinguished sponsor and Bucor.

**[03:32:21.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003604)  
Pero ang nais po sana nating malaman,

**[03:32:23.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003605)  
habang tuloy-tuloy po yung investigation na ginagawa natin,

**[03:32:28.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003606)  
kailan po ba maibabalik sa normal yung sistema ng withdrawal sa loob ng CIW?

**[03:32:38.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003607)  
Habang ginagawa niyo ngayon yung mga pag-i-investiga sa mga dapat managot.

**[03:32:49.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003608)  
So Madam Speaker, tuloy-tuloy pa rin naman po yung sistema ng withdrawal.

**[03:32:53.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003609)  
The CIW.

**[03:32:56.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003610)  
Subject to the timing lang po nung withdrawal, Madam Speaker, which is once a week or twice a week.

**[03:33:07.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003611)  
Madam Speaker, this representation has likewise received reports

**[03:33:12.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003612)  
that after the disclosure of the millions of pesos of missing funds for the PDL Trust Fund,

**[03:33:19.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003613)  
the PDLs have been having a hard time withdrawing or accessing the money.

**[03:33:23.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003614)  
In their accounts, before, like what the distinguished sponsor said,

**[03:33:30.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003615)  
the PDLs were allowed to withdraw three times a week

**[03:33:32.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003616)  
with a maximum of 1,000 pesos per withdrawal

**[03:33:37.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003617)  
and a total allowable weekly withdrawal of 2,000 pesos.

**[03:33:43.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003618)  
In recent experiences po, they said that these withdrawals have become erratic and irregular, yung policies.

**[03:33:51.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003619)  
So naayos na po ba ito sa ngayon?

**[03:33:53.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003620)  
At nakarating po ba sa office ng ating Director General?

**[03:33:59.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003621)  
Nakarating na po yung mga gantong reports sa ating Bureau of Corrections.

**[03:34:04.420] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003622)  
They're inaayos na po nila yung ganitong mga sistema

**[03:34:10.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003623)  
at pinapabalik na po sa normal na withdrawal po yung ating mga PDLs.

**[03:34:17.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003624)  
Maasahan po ba natin, Madam Speaker, na sa linggong ito, maaayos na po

**[03:34:21.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003625)  
yung sistema na ito ng withdrawal?

**[03:34:23.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003626)  
Bababalik doon sa dati?

**[03:34:25.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003627)  
Yes po. The Bureau of Corrections are guaranteeing that they will go back to the standard system po ng ating withdrawal.

**[03:34:37.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003628)  
Magandang balita po na bababalik na yung dating sistema ng withdrawal.

**[03:34:41.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003629)  
Pero mas magandang balita po sana kung magkakaroon na ng update tungkol naman doon sa restoration

**[03:34:48.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003630)  
ng nawawala na pera sa PDL Trust Fund.

**[03:34:52.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003631)  
Meron na po ba kayong petsa

**[03:34:53.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003632)  
kung kailan ito matitiyak na maibabalik?

**[03:34:57.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003633)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, may update po ngayong araw. As we are informed, meron pong confiscated na pera ang BuCor, about 6 million in confiscated money na pinag-aaralan po nila na baka po pwedeng iyon yung gamitin to revert.

**[03:35:29.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003634)  
Kung yun po yung pwedeng gamitin na maipangbayad sa mga nawawalan po ng amount

**[03:35:34.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003635)  
kasi wala pong nagkiklaim nung confiscated money na yun.

**[03:35:38.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003636)  
So sa ngayon po, undergoing legal study po yung paggamit po nung pera ngayon.

**[03:35:47.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003637)  
Dapat talaga maimbestigahan po yan, Madam Speaker,

**[03:35:49.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003638)  
kasi nakakahinala naman po na may biglang sumulpot na ganyan.

**[03:35:52.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003639)  
Sa panahon na...

**[03:35:53.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003640)  
Napaka-init po ng issue na ito na nananawagan po tayo ng patas na investigasyon,

**[03:36:00.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003641)  
ng malinaw na sistema at may malinaw na mananagot kapag may ganitong tipo ng mga issue.

**[03:36:07.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003642)  
Madam Chair, nanggaling din po sa ating plenary deliberations ang Commission on Human Rights

**[03:36:15.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003643)  
at nagbigay po sila ng update tungkol dito sa nawawalang pondo sa Trust Fund sa CIW.

**[03:36:22.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003644)  
At sinabi po nila,

**[03:36:23.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003645)  
na ilang beses daw po sila na nagtangka po at nagplano na bumisita sa CIW

**[03:36:34.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003646)  
para mag-conduct ng kanilang independent investigation.

**[03:36:38.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003647)  
Ngunit ang kanila pong ulat ay hindi po sila pinapapasok sa CIW.

**[03:36:43.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003648)  
Maari bang magbigay ng paglilinaw ang ating distinguished sponsor tungkol dito?

**[03:36:53.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003649)  
Madam Speaker, as per sa ating Bureau of Corrections,

**[03:37:19.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003650)  
may coordination naman po with CIW and the Commission on Human Rights.

**[03:37:23.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003651)  
Regarding this matter, kung nagkaproblema man daw po,

**[03:37:28.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003652)  
ang malaking factor po daw ay yung pagdating kung kailan po dumating ang ating mga kawanimula po

**[03:37:37.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003653)  
galing sa Commission on Human Rights. Madam Speaker.

**[03:37:42.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003654)  
Pwede ba natin malaman Madam Speaker kung ano po yung problema na yun?

**[03:37:46.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003655)  
Hindi po ba pag may visitation ng CHR para mag-imbestiga tungkol sa mga potensyal na,

**[03:37:53.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003656)  
paglabag sa karapatang pantao, at anytime, na dapat po payagan po sila na makapasok?

**[03:38:03.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003657)  
As per our Bureau of Corrections, bandang hapon daw po dumating ang ating mga taga-CHR.

**[03:38:13.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003658)  
Meron pong oras na sinusunod yung ating mga PDLs.

**[03:38:18.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003659)  
So kaya daw po, hindi po muna pinapasok ang ating mga ka-PDLs.

**[03:38:23.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003660)  
Ang kawanimula po sa Commission on Human Rights.

**[03:38:27.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003661)  
Pero ang ating pong Bureau of Corrections are willing na makipagtulungan po sa ating pong CHR.

**[03:38:36.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003662)  
Ayaw naman po nilang i-undermine yung kapangyarihan ng ating pong Commission on Human Rights.

**[03:38:42.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003663)  
Lalo na po doon sa unannounced visits sa ating pong mga penal farms.

**[03:38:50.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003664)  
So ang request lang,

**[03:38:53.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003665)  
ang request lang rin po ng Bureau of Corrections, lalo na ay yung,

**[03:38:58.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003666)  
siguro may mga safeguards rin po.

**[03:39:01.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003667)  
Siyempre may security concern rin po silang,

**[03:39:07.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003668)  
gustong masunod rin po.

**[03:39:09.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003669)  
Madam Speaker, disengish ko ulit.

**[03:39:12.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003670)  
Madam Speaker, may kopya po tayo ng sulat ng Bucor para po sa CHR.

**[03:39:17.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003671)  
Tungkol sa request ng CHR para sa dialogue sa mga PDLs sa CIW.

**[03:39:23.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003672)  
At may sinasabi po dito ang Bucor na,

**[03:39:29.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003673)  
and let me just read this for the record.

**[03:39:33.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003674)  
Considering Data Privacy Act and based from the 2024 Bucor Manual,

**[03:39:38.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003675)  
there is a need for the requesting party to identify specifically the name, names of PDL subject for a dialogue interview

**[03:39:46.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003676)  
for us to secure the consent from the identified PDL.

**[03:39:50.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003677)  
May we know the particular provision?

**[03:39:53.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003678)  
In the Data Privacy Act as well as the 2024 Bucor Manual,

**[03:39:59.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003679)  
which formed the basis of this particular statement?

**[03:40:45.070] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003687)  
So ang protocol daw po sa ating Bureau of Corrections is

**[03:40:48.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003688)  
kailangan po magpaalam po sa ating PDL kung gusto rin po nilang makipag-usap sa ating mga ibat-ibang gusto mag-interview po sa kanila.

**[03:40:59.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003689)  
Pero as for kung meron pong...

**[03:41:10.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003690)  
As for yung visitation manual po nila for PDLs,

**[03:41:16.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003691)  
meron po kasing sinusunod na...

**[03:41:18.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003692)  
oras sa kanilang manual Wednesday to Sunday, 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. daw po

**[03:41:26.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003693)  
ang ating pong visiting hours according to the Bureau of Corrections manual po.

**[03:41:33.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003694)  
Tama po ba yung rinig ko kailangan pong magpaalam ng CHR sa Bucor

**[03:41:37.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003695)  
para gawin yung kanilang constitutional duty?

**[03:41:41.950] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003695-split-2)  
Ah, hindi naman po kailangang

**[03:41:44.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003696)  
magpaalam po ang

**[03:41:48.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003697)  
Commission on Human Rights to investigate, Madam Speaker.

**[03:41:53.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003698)  
Ang close coordination lang po with the Bucor is enough

**[03:41:57.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003699)  
because may mga security concerns nga po.

**[03:42:01.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003700)  
May instance nga daw po kasi na may mga po mapasok nagpapanggap.

**[03:42:06.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003701)  
Yun po yung nabanggit po ng ating pong Director General, Madam Speaker.

**[03:42:11.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003702)  
Maraming salamat sa paglilinaw, Madam Speaker.

**[03:42:15.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003703)  
At sana po hindi na maulit ito.

**[03:42:17.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003704)  
Kasi hindi lang...

**[03:42:18.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003705)  
Hindi lang daw po isang beses na sumubok na magbisita ang CHR,

**[03:42:23.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003706)  
kundi po tatlong beses.

**[03:42:24.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003707)  
Kaya sana po magkaroon ng mas mahigpit na coordination

**[03:42:27.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003708)  
para lamang po dun sa interest ng katotohanan

**[03:42:32.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003709)  
at sa interest ng pananagutan pagdating po sa napakahalaga na matter na ito.

**[03:42:39.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003710)  
Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker,

**[03:42:41.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003711)  
pwede ba natin kunin yung commitment ng Bucor

**[03:42:43.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003712)  
dahil po sa marami pang hindi nasusunod na mga...

**[03:42:48.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003713)  
Dapat, no, katulad sa reporting, monitoring,

**[03:42:52.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003714)  
may nakita tayong mga gaps pa sa mga proseso kung paano natin matipiyak

**[03:42:56.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003715)  
ng sistema na ito ay hindi po makukorup, hindi mawawala.

**[03:43:03.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003716)  
Pwede bang ma-review natin itong sistema, itong guidelines na ito tungkol sa cashless system?

**[03:43:09.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003717)  
Bukod dyan, Madam Speaker, maaari din na sa lalong madaling panahon.

**[03:43:15.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003718)  
Sinabi nyo nga po may development sa CIW.

**[03:43:18.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003719)  
Ay ma-restore na dun sa dating sistema muna

**[03:43:20.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003720)  
habang nag-iimbestiga kayo at habang nire-review ninyo itong cashless system.

**[03:43:27.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003721)  
Ang kinababahala ng representasyon na ito, Madam Speaker, sa CIW pa lang ito.

**[03:43:33.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003722)  
So paano po, sana naman po hindi na hindi dapat ito nangyayari

**[03:43:38.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003723)  
sa kahit saan nating prison and penal terms.

**[03:43:43.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003724)  
So they are committed to reviewing the policy on the cashless system po.

**[03:43:48.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003725)  
Any suggestions or comments regarding that system are welcome po sa ating Bureau of Corrections

**[03:43:55.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003726)  
and they are committed na hindi na po maulit yung ganitong insidente with the Commission on Human Rights.

**[03:44:01.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003727)  
Basta ang request nga lang po, basta regarding security concern, ma-address po nilang dalawa.

**[03:44:07.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003728)  
Close coordination with the Commission on Human Rights.

**[03:44:10.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003729)  
And nagpa-audit na rin po ang ating Bureau of Corrections regarding,

**[03:44:18.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003730)  
kung may ganitong incident sa other penal firms para po maiwasan na yung ganitong mga klaseng insidente.

**[03:44:24.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003731)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, at ating aabangan yung risulta ng internal audit service na yan.

**[03:44:32.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003732)  
Ngayon naman po, at tungkol naman po sa ibang mahalaga din na usapin,

**[03:44:38.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003733)  
tungkol po sa legal assistance para sa child support cases.

**[03:44:42.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003734)  
Kung maari po nating matanong ang Public Attorney's Office,

**[03:44:46.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003735)  
how many cases for child support?

**[03:44:48.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003736)  
What is PAO currently handling?

**[03:45:00.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003737)  
As of now po, Madam Speaker, there is no data regarding child support cases pero parang sa VAUSI po talaga yung kanilang data.

**[03:45:13.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003738)  
Maraming salamat Madam Speaker.

**[03:45:14.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003739)  
Hindi po siya broken down.

**[03:45:16.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003740)  
Pahingin na lang po natin yung ulat kapag nagawa na po ito ng PAO dahil kami rin po ay nagsulunsad ngayon ng Pambansang Review ng Anti-Violence Against Women and Their Children.

**[03:45:26.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003741)  
At marami po sa mga usapin ng mga nagiging biktima, survivors natin ay may kinalaman sa child support, kasama na ang spousal support.

**[03:45:38.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003742)  
Kaya nais ko rin pong magtanong, dahil ang Pilipinas po ay nag-gratify ng Convention on the International Recovery of Child Support and Other Forms of Family Maintenance,

**[03:45:50.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003743)  
meron din po bang nahahawakan ng mga kaso ang PAO na may kinalaman sa demand for child support?

**[03:45:56.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003744)  
At family maintenance mula po sa mga Pilipinos na nagtatrabaho at nakatira overseas?

**[03:46:05.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003745)  
O nanggaling naman po sa mga foreigners outside of the Philippines?

**[03:46:22.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003747)  
Madam Speaker, shinees colleague.

**[03:46:25.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003748)  
Naka-lumped.

**[03:46:25.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003749)  
Summum na po kasi yung data na yan sa BAUSI cases.

**[03:46:31.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003750)  
So, hindi po nila nabre-breakdown pa kung sino po yung nag-a-avail ng ganitong klaseng assistance with regard to child support in international cases.

**[03:46:43.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003751)  
Madam Speaker, tayo po ay mag-initiate ng dialogo sa PAO at tungkol dito at sa mga relevant agencies natin, lalo na sa Central Authority natin dito, ang DSWD.

**[03:46:53.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003752)  
So, para matiyak na ang mga konbensyon na kung saan tayo ay kasama, ay talagang natitiyak natin na nai-enforce, may maayos na implementasyon dito sa ating bansa.

**[03:47:06.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003753)  
At kung meron po kayong mga pinakahuling ulat tungkol dito, ay tatanggapin po ng ating representasyon.

**[03:47:12.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003754)  
Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, pinakahuli ko po na ilalapit at ihahapag sa Department of Justice

**[03:47:19.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003755)  
tungkol po sa nakalaan na 90 million pesos.

**[03:47:23.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003756)  
90 million pesos noong 2024 para sa agricultural camp for children in conflict with the law.

**[03:47:33.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003757)  
Maari po ba natin malaman mula sa Bucor kung ano na po ang status ng sinasagawa na ito o tinatayo na ito na the agri-camp

**[03:47:43.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003758)  
sa ayon sa ating Juvenile Justice and Welfare Act.

**[03:47:53.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003759)  
So, ongoing po sa ngayon ang agricultural camp.

**[03:48:18.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003760)  
Ito turn over pa lang po sa Bucor ang kampong ito kapag natapos na.

**[03:48:23.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003761)  
Pero ang main agency po na humahawak po sa pag-implement po nito ay DSWD, funding from the DPWH po.

**[03:48:35.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003762)  
During the DSWD budget briefing, Madam Speaker, this representation has also manifested its misgivings

**[03:48:42.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003763)  
on the construction of an agri-camp within the Iwahit penal farm as it may create stigma and bias against the CICLs

**[03:48:52.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003764)  
who, under the juvenile justice system, should be rehabilitated, not put in prison.

**[03:48:59.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003765)  
Narilis ko po itong concern na ito kasi pinaliwanag din po sa akin ng DSWD na malaki yung lupa, malaki po yung area.

**[03:49:06.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003766)  
Pero yung mismo pong pagkakadikit noong facility for children doon sa pangalan mismo ng Iwahit,

**[03:49:14.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003767)  
baari na pong mag-create talaga ng stigma at mag-sponsor ng bias against them.

**[03:49:20.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003768)  
No, kaya po.

**[03:49:21.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003769)  
Sana.

**[03:49:22.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003770)  
Kaya po ma-address ng DOJ at ng BUCOR ang concern na ito.

**[03:49:27.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003771)  
Ang pakipag-upuan, nakausap na rin po namin ang Council for the Welfare of Children at ang JJWC tungkol sa concern na ito

**[03:49:34.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003772)  
na kung paano po natin isa sa ayos.

**[03:49:38.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003773)  
Hindi lang yung concern tungkol sa bias, pero yung concern din tungkol sa visitation ng family,

**[03:49:44.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003774)  
ng kanilang mga kakilala, na kung nag-iisa lang po yan at napakalayo, hindi po magiging ganun kadali.

**[03:49:49.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003775)  
No, para yung mga bata.

**[03:49:51.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003776)  
Ay tuloy-tuloy po yung kanilang support system mula naman sa labas ng camp, ng agri-camp na ito.

**[03:49:59.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003777)  
At nananawagan din po tayo sa kapulungan na ito na agaran ng tignan yung mga naiulat sa atin na gaps sa implementation ng JJWA.

**[03:50:09.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003778)  
Dahil malinaw po na marami pang hindi napapatupad ng mga probisyon, bukod dyan marami pang pondo na kinakailangan para matiyak na yung mga mahalagang programa for rehabilitation,

**[03:50:20.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003779)  
ay nabibigyan ng sapat na pondo.

**[03:50:24.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003780)  
At bilang pang huli, mag-i-request din po ang aming representation.

**[03:50:28.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003781)  
Sana makapag-arrange po muli ang kongreso kasama ang mga child rights advocates ng ocular inspection sa facility.

**[03:50:36.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003782)  
At matiyak po natin na magiging tunay na child-friendly ang facility na ito.

**[03:50:42.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003783)  
At tunay na facility para po sa hustisya.

**[03:50:46.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003784)  
Maraming maraming salamat Madam Speaker.

**[03:50:48.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003785)  
Maraming salamat sa Distinguished Sponsor.

**[03:50:50.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003786)  
Sa DOJ Bucor.

**[03:50:51.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003787)  
Sa PAO at sa lahat po ang mga kasama natin ngayong araw.

**[03:50:55.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003788)  
Thank you Madam Speaker.

**[03:50:56.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003789)  
Thank you Distinguished Colleague.

**[03:50:57.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003790)  
Welcome na welcome daw po.

**[03:50:59.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003791)  
Sabi po ng Bucor.

**[03:51:01.120] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003792)  
Thank you Representative Elago, Majority Leader.

**[03:51:04.460] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-003793)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Tino to interpolate the sponsor.

**[03:51:09.060] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003794)  
Representative Antonio Tino of ACT Teacher's Partylist is hereby recognized for his interpolation.

**[03:51:20.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003795)  
Thank you Madam Speaker.

**[03:51:22.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003796)  
Madam Speaker, before I begin with my interpolation, I would like to make a clarificatory statement on the record.

**[03:51:31.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003797)  
Earlier in my interpolation of the MMDA, I asserted that the controversial July 14 post regarding the giving of a ticket to a teacher

**[03:51:49.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003798)  
was posted on the website of MMDA.

**[03:51:53.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003799)  
I stand corrected, Madam Speaker, it is not in fact posted on the website

**[03:51:59.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003800)  
and it is correct that it was only posted on the personal blog, on a personal blog.

**[03:52:06.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003801)  
So with that, I apologize to the Chair, Chairman Artes, and to the MMDA for making that wrong claim.

**[03:52:16.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003802)  
Let that be on the record, Madam Speaker.

**[03:52:19.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003803)  
Really noted.

**[03:52:20.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003804)  
Thank you.

**[03:52:21.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003805)  
Now let me proceed with my interpolation.

**[03:52:24.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003806)  
Before you proceed, I'd like to request the technical team to revert back the time.

**[03:52:29.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003807)  
Because this was not part of your interpolation.

**[03:52:32.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003808)  
Thank you.

**[03:52:33.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003809)  
Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.

**[03:52:35.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003810)  
Alright, now to the interpolation of the DOJ.

**[03:52:44.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003811)  
My questions, first of all, have to do with confidential funds.

**[03:52:49.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003812)  
The documents of the Department of Justice and the attached agencies.

**[03:52:55.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003813)  
So I have a graphic, kung pwede pong ipakita.

**[03:53:04.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003814)  
Ayan.

**[03:53:06.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003815)  
So, dun po mas sa itaas.

**[03:53:14.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003816)  
For, at ang pinakamataas po na appropriation for confidential funds ng Department of Justice

**[03:53:28.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003817)  
was 1.91 billion pesos in 2025.

**[03:53:35.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003818)  
For,

**[03:53:36.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003819)  
for,

**[03:53:46.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003820)  
a 10-year period from 2016 to 2027, and that is shown in the bar chart, bar,

**[03:53:57.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003821)  
yeah, the bar chart on the screen,

**[03:54:01.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003822)  
a total of 4.93 billion has been appropriated

**[03:54:06.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003823)  
for the DOJ, DOJ-wide,

**[03:54:12.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003824)  
and that includes the proposed for 2027.

**[03:54:17.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003825)  
Alright.

**[03:54:19.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003826)  
Well, ito po yung mas siguro, mas madaling maintindihan yung visualization.

**[03:54:27.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003827)  
So, binalikan po natin, the past 10 years, yung mga appropriations,

**[03:54:34.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003828)  
o, blue is NEP.

**[03:54:37.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003829)  
Um, orange is enacted in the GAA and the green obligated.

**[03:54:46.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003830)  
Yung actual.

**[03:54:47.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003831)  
O, yung actual na natanggap at ginastos.

**[03:54:51.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003832)  
No.

**[03:54:52.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003833)  
And, uh, for the most part,

**[03:54:54.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003834)  
yung inkilin

**[03:54:55.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003835)  
and the actual, uh,

**[03:54:58.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003836)  
ah, very close to each other.

**[03:55:00.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003837)  
May, there was only one instance where

**[03:55:03.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003838)  
that is the year 2022, you can see 2022, where the actual exceeded the appropriations.

**[03:55:16.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003839)  
Ibig sabihin, mas nadagdagan pa, possibly ibig sabihin nun na augment, augment from savings.

**[03:55:23.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003840)  
Okay. But what is notable in this presentation is that in 2016, the level of appropriations for confidential funds was 259 million.

**[03:55:40.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003841)  
And there was some growth throughout the years, pero hindi ganun kalaki.

**[03:55:46.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003842)  
Okay. We do notice, however, that starting with this administration, the Marcos Jr. administration,

**[03:55:53.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003843)  
ay naging significant na po ang paglaki ng confidential funds para sa Department of Justice across all agencies.

**[03:56:07.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003844)  
Nakita po natin, in 2023, the proposed confidential funds was 383 million.

**[03:56:17.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003845)  
However, it was Congress that made instructions.

**[03:56:23.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003846)  
An institutional amendment to increase it.

**[03:56:27.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003847)  
Kaya practically doble ang inilaki, naging 722 million, of which 700 million was actually used.

**[03:56:40.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003848)  
Then, so ang unang nagpalaki po ay ang administrasyon ito, and it was through Congress.

**[03:56:48.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003849)  
And then, in particular, in 2025, we see a...

**[03:56:53.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003850)  
dramatic, a huge rise in the level of confidential funds for the Department of Justice, 2025 po ito.

**[03:57:03.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003851)  
The proposed was 579 million in the NEP.

**[03:57:10.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003852)  
Yung pinasan ng Kongreso sa GAA, 1.91 billion times 4. Times 4. Ang laki.

**[03:57:18.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003853)  
At halos lahat yun, mukha, ay ginastos.

**[03:57:21.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003854)  
Okay.

**[03:57:23.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003855)  
And then, we see the same pattern, although hindi kasing laki, nung 2026.

**[03:57:29.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003856)  
Ito, the current fiscal year.

**[03:57:31.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003857)  
Ang proposed 579, ang in-approve ng Kongreso, doble.

**[03:57:38.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003858)  
Almost doble, 1.07 billion.

**[03:57:42.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003859)  
And now, the proposed for 2027 is 579 million again, same level as this year.

**[03:57:53.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003860)  
Well, ang tanong ngayon sa Kongreso, following recent patterns, dodoblehin na naman po ba yan?

**[03:58:00.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003861)  
No?

**[03:58:02.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003862)  
Baka pwedeng tanong natin.

**[03:58:03.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003863)  
Well, ngayon, sasabihin, Kongreso ang gumawa niyan, Kongreso.

**[03:58:09.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003864)  
Pero alam naman natin, yung Kongreso ay umaakto batay sa request ng agency.

**[03:58:17.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003865)  
Di ba, ganun ang patakaran ng BARC.

**[03:58:20.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003866)  
Para ma-increase ito, it has to be.

**[03:58:23.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003867)  
It has to be an institutional amendment.

**[03:58:25.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003868)  
And the Congress, the BARC only acts on official requests coming from the agency itself.

**[03:58:33.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003869)  
So, in other words, yung nangyari nung, pwede natin sabihin, nangyari nung 2025, 2026,

**[03:58:41.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003870)  
ay humingi ng dagdag ang department sa mga ito.

**[03:58:47.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003871)  
So, ang tanong ko po, meron na naman po ba ang request for additional?

**[03:58:53.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003872)  
Confidential funds ang DOJ for 2027?

**[03:59:01.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003873)  
Madam Speaker, it is initially meron po, to keep it at the same level lang po as of that 2026 level.

**[03:59:08.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003874)  
So, meaning to say, gustong dagdagan muli at gawing 1.07 billion. Ganun po ba?

**[03:59:18.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003875)  
As for...

**[03:59:20.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003876)  
Yun ang ibig sabihin nun.

**[03:59:21.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003877)  
Madam Speaker.

**[03:59:23.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003878)  
Yung request po nila, for OSEC proper, 214 million po kasi yung 2026.

**[03:59:31.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003879)  
Ang gusto lang po ng Department of Justice is to keep it at the same level of 214.

**[03:59:40.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003880)  
Ah, okay.

**[03:59:41.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003881)  
Well, we also have...

**[03:59:44.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003882)  
May tables pa po tayo per department.

**[03:59:48.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003883)  
If you scroll down.

**[03:59:50.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003884)  
So, yung OSEC, yun na po ang sinasabi nyo.

**[03:59:52.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003885)  
Gusto nilang ma-increase.

**[03:59:53.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003886)  
Well, according to the data here, for 2026, the enacted...

**[04:00:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003887)  
For the Office of the Secretary was P730 million.

**[04:00:06.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003888)  
Di po ba?

**[04:00:08.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003889)  
2026.

**[04:00:16.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003890)  
Well, the breakdown is,

**[04:00:22.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003891)  
OSEC proper po ay P214,471,000,

**[04:00:28.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003892)  
the witness protection.

**[04:00:30.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003893)  
P500 million.

**[04:00:31.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003894)  
Yakat, P10 million.

**[04:00:34.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003895)  
Office of Cybercrime, P475,000.

**[04:00:37.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003896)  
Ah, okay.

**[04:00:38.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003897)  
NCCO, SISAM, is at P5 million po.

**[04:00:40.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003898)  
Okay.

**[04:00:41.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003899)  
But those all fall under the Office of the Secretary?

**[04:00:49.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003900)  
Yes po, Madam Secretary.

**[04:00:50.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003901)  
Yes.

**[04:00:51.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003902)  
So, kaya po, pag tinotal nyo,

**[04:00:53.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003903)  
if I'm not mistaken,

**[04:00:54.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003904)  
pag tinotal nyo, P730 million yan.

**[04:00:58.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003905)  
Yes.

**[04:00:59.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003906)  
Okay.

**[04:00:59.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003907)  
So, yun po, kayo bin-breakdown.

**[04:01:01.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003908)  
Actually, we would appreciate

**[04:01:02.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003909)  
to be provided with that breakdown.

**[04:01:06.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003910)  
Okay.

**[04:01:07.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003911)  
So, yun pala, mas narinig natin.

**[04:01:09.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003912)  
Pwede pong pakiulit lang,

**[04:01:10.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003913)  
para malinaw din, no,

**[04:01:12.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003914)  
na itong P730 million na ito

**[04:01:14.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003915)  
ay napunta sa iba't-ibang mga

**[04:01:17.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003916)  
opisina or programa

**[04:01:21.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003917)  
sa ilalim ng Office of the Secretary.

**[04:01:24.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003918)  
Pakiulit lang po.

**[04:01:25.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003919)  
So, Madam Speaker,

**[04:01:27.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003920)  
for Office of the Secretary,

**[04:01:29.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003921)  
for the Secretary proper,

**[04:01:30.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003922)  
P214 million, P471,000.

**[04:01:34.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003923)  
For the Witness Protection Program,

**[04:01:37.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003924)  
P500 million po.

**[04:01:40.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003925)  
Pinakamalaki.

**[04:01:40.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003926)  
Yung Interagency Council

**[04:01:43.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003927)  
against Trafficking,

**[04:01:46.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003928)  
P10 million.

**[04:01:47.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003929)  
Office of the Cybercrime po,

**[04:01:49.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003930)  
P475,000.

**[04:01:52.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003931)  
Tapos yung sa NCC

**[04:01:53.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003932)  
o sa CSIM po,

**[04:01:54.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003933)  
ay P5 million.

**[04:01:56.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003934)  
Okay.

**[04:01:57.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003935)  
So, thank you for that breakdown.

**[04:01:58.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003936)  
So,

**[04:01:59.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003937)  
at least,

**[04:02:00.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003938)  
hindi po makikita kasi yan sa

**[04:02:02.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003939)  
GAA itself,

**[04:02:04.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003940)  
nor even in the NEP.

**[04:02:06.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003941)  
So, that's additional information

**[04:02:10.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003942)  
na more or less would give us

**[04:02:12.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003943)  
more of an idea

**[04:02:13.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003944)  
kung saan gagamitin itong

**[04:02:15.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003945)  
confidential funds na ito.

**[04:02:17.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003946)  
Pinakamalaki po na nabanggit nyo,

**[04:02:19.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003947)  
P500 million

**[04:02:20.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003948)  
goes to the Witness Protection Program.

**[04:02:23.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003949)  
Okay.

**[04:02:25.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003950)  
So, ganun din po.

**[04:02:27.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003951)  
So, yun nga ang tanong natin.

**[04:02:29.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003952)  
Bakit po sa ilalim

**[04:02:34.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003953)  
ng Marcos Jr. Administration

**[04:02:36.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003954)  
ay lumobo

**[04:02:38.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003955)  
to unprecedented levels

**[04:02:41.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003956)  
historically

**[04:02:42.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003957)  
yung confidential funds

**[04:02:44.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003958)  
ng DOJ.

**[04:02:46.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003959)  
Whereas,

**[04:02:48.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003960)  
at least in the past 10 years,

**[04:02:52.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003961)  
nasa level lang

**[04:02:54.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003962)  
ng around 300,

**[04:02:57.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003963)  
less than 300,

**[04:02:59.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003964)  
less than 400 million pesos.

**[04:03:02.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003965)  
So, parang times five po.

**[04:03:04.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003966)  
As high as times five

**[04:03:06.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003967)  
yung naabot.

**[04:03:08.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003968)  
Paano po din na-justify ito

**[04:03:10.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003969)  
ng Department of Justice?

**[04:03:14.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003970)  
Well, Madam Speaker,

**[04:03:16.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003971)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:03:18.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003972)  
as an agency dealing with

**[04:03:20.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003973)  
investigative and prosecutorial functions,

**[04:03:24.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003974)  
kailangan po yung

**[04:03:26.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003975)  
confidential funds

**[04:03:28.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003976)  
kasi

**[04:03:29.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003977)  
it may affect its capacity

**[04:03:31.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003978)  
to conduct intelligence gathering,

**[04:03:33.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003979)  
surveillance,

**[04:03:34.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003980)  
and other confidential law enforcement operations.

**[04:03:37.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003981)  
So, mahalaga po yung confidential funds

**[04:03:43.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003982)  
sa isang departamento na

**[04:03:45.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003983)  
nag-iimbestaga po

**[04:03:47.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003984)  
ng iba't ibang kaso.

**[04:03:50.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003985)  
Madam Speaker.

**[04:03:51.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003986)  
Madam Speaker, nabanggit po na

**[04:03:53.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003987)  
sa hinihinging,

**[04:03:55.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003988)  
so in other words, to be clear,

**[04:03:56.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003989)  
humihingi na naman po ng additional

**[04:03:59.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003990)  
confidential funds

**[04:04:01.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003991)  
ang DOJ.

**[04:04:03.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003992)  
Tama po.

**[04:04:04.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003993)  
Yes po. To keep it at the same level lang po ng 2026.

**[04:04:07.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003994)  
Keep it at the same level as 2026.

**[04:04:10.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003995)  
No? So,

**[04:04:13.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003996)  
that would be...

**[04:04:15.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003997)  
180 million po yung

**[04:04:17.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003998)  
requested, Madam Speaker.

**[04:04:19.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003999)  
180 million?

**[04:04:21.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004000)  
Yes.

**[04:04:22.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004001)  
Okay.

**[04:04:23.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004002)  
Additional, bale.

**[04:04:25.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004003)  
Yes.

**[04:04:26.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004004)  
Okay.

**[04:04:27.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004005)  
Um...

**[04:04:28.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004006)  
Pakiklaro po, yung Witness Protection Program,

**[04:04:30.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004007)  
ito yung pinakamalaki,

**[04:04:31.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004008)  
500 million pesos.

**[04:04:34.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004009)  
Is...

**[04:04:35.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004010)  
Does that comprise the whole budget

**[04:04:37.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004011)  
of the Witness Protection Program?

**[04:04:39.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004012)  
Or just a confidential...

**[04:04:42.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004013)  
ah...

**[04:04:43.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004014)  
a con...

**[04:04:44.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004015)  
a confidential expenses portion?

**[04:04:50.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004016)  
Confidential expenses portion lang po.

**[04:04:52.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004017)  
Okay.

**[04:04:53.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004018)  
So, magkano po yung kabuhuang

**[04:04:55.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004019)  
budget

**[04:04:56.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004020)  
para sa Witness Protection Program?

**[04:05:26.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004021)  
For the total po, excluding po yung confidential expenses, P625,633,000.

**[04:05:46.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004022)  
Okay. So yung total, including confidential funds, ay P1,000,000,000.

**[04:05:52.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004023)  
Okay.

**[04:06:22.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004024)  
So, for the fiscal year 2026 po pala, including na po yung P500,000,000, dun sa P626,193,000.

**[04:06:35.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004025)  
Okay. So, well, this is my concern, Madam Speaker. So, P626,000,000 ang total budget for the Witness Protection Program in fiscal year 2026 ngayong taon.

**[04:06:52.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004026)  
Yes.

**[04:06:52.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004027)  
Yes.

**[04:06:52.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004028)  
P626,000,000, 500,000,000 of that, confidential expenses.

**[04:06:57.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004029)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[04:06:59.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004030)  
Okay. So, P126,000,000 lang bale yung hindi confidential funds.

**[04:07:05.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004031)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[04:07:06.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004032)  
Okay. So, yun po ang concern natin. How come practically the whole program runs with the use of confidential funds?

**[04:07:20.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004033)  
Ibig sabihin, yung...

**[04:07:22.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004034)  
Lack of transparency, there are many issues here.

**[04:07:28.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004035)  
Pagka-confidential funds po, exempted from normal bidding, procurement, and so on, policies of government.

**[04:07:39.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004036)  
So, bakit po ganung kalaki yung ginagawang confidential funds?

**[04:07:44.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004037)  
Ano po ang explanation doon?

**[04:07:49.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004038)  
Is there...

**[04:07:50.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004039)  
Is there...

**[04:07:50.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004040)  
Hindi ba posibleng naman na...

**[04:07:52.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004041)  
Of course, naintindihan natin, obviously, kailangang protektahan ang sensitive information regarding witnesses, witness protection nga eh.

**[04:08:05.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004042)  
Diba?

**[04:08:05.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004043)  
So, definitely, hindi pwedeng ma-reveal yung mga pangalan, mga individual sa Witness Protection Program, locations, and any other information that would...

**[04:08:20.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004044)  
Somehow, give away the identities of those under the Witness Protection.

**[04:08:29.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004045)  
Wala pong question doon.

**[04:08:31.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004046)  
However, to my mind, it's possible to maintain such secrecy or confidentiality while still allowing transparency in the use of funds.

**[04:08:48.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004047)  
So, hindi ba pwedeng ganun na i-share nyo kung paano ginastos ang pondo at i-limit lamang yung talagang confidential expenses?

**[04:09:01.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004048)  
Yes.

**[04:09:03.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004049)  
So, Madam Speaker, may compliance naman po sila with the requirement regarding the use of confidential funds.

**[04:09:15.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004050)  
Tapos, lahat po ng galaw po kasi regarding sa Witness Protection Program, doon po, ibinabawas yung pondo, lalo doon po yung mga safe houses, yung benefits sa ating pong witnesses, livelihood, protection, counseling, doon po talaga naka-charge po sa ating pong confidential expenses ng Witness Protection Program.

**[04:09:40.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004051)  
Sir, mag-ingat kayo sa mga statement, ha?

**[04:09:43.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004052)  
Livelihood, counseling, and so on.

**[04:09:45.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004053)  
That may not be covered by the COA DBM Resolution on Guidelines on Confidential Expenses.

**[04:09:57.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004054)  
So, are you sure about that?

**[04:10:01.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004055)  
Because it is stated po sa…

**[04:10:02.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004056)  
Parang wala po yung livelihood doon sa COA DBM Resolution on a use of confidential and intelligence funds.

**[04:10:14.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004057)  
Because nasa ano po?

**[04:10:15.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004058)  
So, RA 6981 po, Section 7 and 8 po yung rights and benefits po under the Witness Protection Program.

**[04:10:24.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004059)  
I don't have the guidelines in front of me.

**[04:10:28.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004060)  
However, I don't recall that livelihood is covered or is an allowed expense under confidential funds.

**[04:10:45.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004061)  
So, I don't know.

**[04:10:57.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004062)  
Pause lang po yung time para hindi na…

**[04:11:00.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004064)  
Ah, okay.

**[04:11:01.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004065)  
Sige po.

**[04:11:01.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004066)  
Yung sa rights and benefits po kasi under the RA 6981,

**[04:11:07.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004067)  
the department shall whenever practicable assist the witness in obtaining a means of livelihood.

**[04:11:13.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004068)  
So, yun po yung basis.

**[04:11:15.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004069)  
Okay. What the sponsor has cited is that there is legal basis for giving benefits to those under the witness protection program.

**[04:11:25.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004070)  
The law does not state that those have to come from confidential expenses.

**[04:11:31.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004071)  
Di po ba?

**[04:11:31.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004072)  
At again, kung titignan natin yung COA DBM resolution or joint resolution on confidential and intelligence expenses, wala pong livelihood doon.

**[04:11:52.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004073)  
I mean, I can confidently state that dahil, syempre, nasa balita ngayon yung use of confidential funds.

**[04:12:01.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004074)  
Alam nyo na.

**[04:12:01.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004075)  
Alam nyo naman yan, because of the impeachment of the Vice President, di ba?

**[04:12:05.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004076)  
And in fact, isa nga sa mga sinita ng COA ay initially, sabi ng Office of the Vice President,

**[04:12:12.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004077)  
they used some of the confidential funds to provide groceries and medicines to informants.

**[04:12:25.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004078)  
Disallowed. In fact, there was a notice of disallowance on that.

**[04:12:47.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004082)  
Tumatakbo po po yung oras

**[04:12:49.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004083)  
Sana po

**[04:12:53.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004084)  
Madam Speaker, ma allow na lang ng konting

**[04:12:56.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004085)  
Excess

**[04:12:58.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004086)  
As per

**[04:12:59.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004087)  
the Department of Justice po

**[04:13:01.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004088)  
there is a risk

**[04:13:02.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004089)  
in exposing po yung identities po

**[04:13:04.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004090)  
ng ating pong witnesses

**[04:13:05.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004091)  
kapag

**[04:13:07.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004092)  
nag-go through po ng

**[04:13:10.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004093)  
standard procurement

**[04:13:13.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004094)  
procedure

**[04:13:13.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004095)  
ang iniiwasan po nila

**[04:13:16.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004096)  
is to expose the identities

**[04:13:18.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004097)  
of these witnesses

**[04:13:20.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004098)  
which are needed

**[04:13:22.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004099)  
yung testimony naman nila

**[04:13:24.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004100)  
needed to prosecute the case

**[04:13:26.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004101)  
in which they are

**[04:13:27.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004102)  
covered by the witness protection program

**[04:13:30.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004103)  
so all of this

**[04:13:32.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004104)  
naman po yung gastos

**[04:13:33.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004105)  
is for the investigation po

**[04:13:35.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004106)  
ng ating pong kaso at hand

**[04:13:37.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004107)  
kung saan po sila

**[04:13:40.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004108)  
kung saan po sila

**[04:13:42.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004109)  
nag-apply as a witness

**[04:13:44.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004110)  
well of course naintindihan po natin

**[04:13:46.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004111)  
absolutely kailangan ma-protect

**[04:13:48.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004112)  
yung identities under the

**[04:13:50.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004113)  
witness protection program

**[04:13:51.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004114)  
kaya nga witness protection program

**[04:13:53.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004115)  
however in other words

**[04:13:55.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004116)  
kailangan gumawa ng paraan para makapag

**[04:13:57.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004117)  
procure for livelihood

**[04:13:59.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004118)  
without

**[04:13:59.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004119)  
pwede naman eh

**[04:14:01.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004120)  
di ba

**[04:14:02.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004121)  
hindi mo naman kailangan

**[04:14:03.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004122)  
ipangalan sa bidding documents

**[04:14:05.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004123)  
or whatever

**[04:14:06.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004124)  
or sa purchase orders

**[04:14:07.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004125)  
yung

**[04:14:08.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004126)  
pangalan ng witness

**[04:14:10.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004127)  
or

**[04:14:11.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004128)  
so in other words

**[04:14:13.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004129)  
there are ways of doing this

**[04:14:15.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004130)  
the other way is to classify

**[04:14:16.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004131)  
certain information

**[04:14:17.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004132)  
di ba

**[04:14:18.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004133)  
as a secret

**[04:14:20.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004134)  
and so on

**[04:14:21.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004135)  
so may mga paraan po

**[04:14:24.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004136)  
and I'm

**[04:14:24.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004137)  
what I'm pointing out

**[04:14:26.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004138)  
is based on

**[04:14:27.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004139)  
what has been

**[04:14:27.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004140)  
been shared

**[04:14:28.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004141)  
livelihood

**[04:14:29.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004142)  
hindi covered

**[04:14:30.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004143)  
even if there is

**[04:14:32.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004144)  
legal basis

**[04:14:33.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004145)  
in the witness protection law

**[04:14:35.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004146)  
the guidelines on

**[04:14:37.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004147)  
confidential expenses

**[04:14:38.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004148)  
does not allow that

**[04:14:39.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004149)  
okay so

**[04:14:40.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004150)  
i-review po sana ng DOJ

**[04:14:42.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004151)  
and then yun na nga po

**[04:14:43.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004152)  
ang concern natin

**[04:14:45.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004153)  
na napakalaking pondo

**[04:14:47.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004154)  
ang nilalaan

**[04:14:49.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004155)  
sa confidential funds

**[04:14:51.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004156)  
humingi pa ng mas malaki

**[04:14:52.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004157)  
ang DOJ

**[04:14:53.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004158)  
pero

**[04:14:53.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004159)  
strictly speaking

**[04:14:55.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004160)  
katulad ng nakikita po natin

**[04:14:57.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004161)  
sa

**[04:14:57.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004162)  
impeachment trial

**[04:14:58.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004163)  
eh

**[04:15:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004164)  
Pag minusisi mo talaga, mukhang may mga problema, diba, sa confidential funds.

**[04:15:07.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004165)  
So, the General Provisions on Confidential Funds, the General Appropriations Act requires that all agencies using confidential funds must submit a report.

**[04:15:23.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004166)  
That agencies utilizing confidential funds shall submit to the President of the Philippines and both Houses of Congress a quarterly report on the accomplishments in the use of said funds.

**[04:15:38.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004167)  
It's not a report on how the funds were spent, you know, as in magkano, kanino nyo binaya, and so on.

**[04:15:48.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004168)  
Sabi rito, a report on the accomplishments.

**[04:15:51.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004169)  
Ano ang na-achieve, diba, sa paggamit ng confidential funds?

**[04:16:00.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004170)  
Does the DOJ comply with this quarterly reportorial requirement?

**[04:16:06.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004171)  
May quarterly accomplishment report po?

**[04:16:09.700] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004172)  
Yes, the DOJ submits the quarterly accomplishments po.

**[04:16:12.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004173)  
So, submit to the President and both Houses of Congress.

**[04:16:16.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004174)  
So, dapat ang Kongreso meron din po yan.

**[04:16:19.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004175)  
Meron po ba?

**[04:16:21.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004176)  
Meron po ang Kongreso.

**[04:16:24.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004177)  
Meron din po, Madam Speaker.

**[04:16:26.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004178)  
Okay. Siguro, itatanong na lang natin sa Kongreso kung meron yan.

**[04:16:30.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004179)  
At now, can the DOJ share these accomplishment reports?

**[04:16:39.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004180)  
Hindi naman ito about the expenses but on the accomplishments.

**[04:16:44.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004181)  
Ibig sabihin, batay sa ginastos namin, ito yung na...

**[04:16:51.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004182)  
nagawa natin, no, in the, in fulfilling the mandate of the agency.

**[04:17:00.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004183)  
So, can this accomplishment report be shared?

**[04:17:03.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004184)  
Not just to Kongreso but to the public.

**[04:17:09.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004185)  
Hindi naman sinabi rito na dapat confidential yung accomplishment report.

**[04:17:14.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004186)  
Diba?

**[04:17:19.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004187)  
Ano po ang sagot ng ahensya?

**[04:17:21.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004188)  
Because...

**[04:17:21.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004189)  
As for the ACAPI po, within, they are complying with the...

**[04:17:29.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004190)  
Ah, sige.

**[04:17:29.760] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004191)  
What was said, they are submitting quarterly reports po sa ating Office of the President and the H.O.R.

**[04:17:37.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004192)  
As to sharing it with the public po, to afford full protection po ng ating pong witnesses,

**[04:17:45.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004193)  
we cannot divulge that information.

**[04:17:49.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004194)  
As of sharing, for example,

**[04:17:51.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004195)  
So, ang isang example niyan would be because of the use of confidential funds for rewards.

**[04:18:06.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004196)  
Nahuli namin si ganito, ex, na matagal ng wanted.

**[04:18:09.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004197)  
O hindi pa pwedeng malaman ng publiko yun na because of a reward given through confidential funds.

**[04:18:21.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004198)  
Nahuli.

**[04:18:21.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004199)  
Si wanted criminal, ganito.

**[04:18:25.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004200)  
O, may nalalabag ba doon?

**[04:18:32.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004203)  
Well...

**[04:18:53.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004235)  
May I clarify, Madam Speaker, if any use of confidential funds, not necessarily the confidential expenses in the witness protection program?

**[04:19:06.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004236)  
Puyong tinatanong niyo kung pwedeng ma-share po yung...

**[04:19:10.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004237)  
In general po.

**[04:19:11.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004238)  
In general.

**[04:19:12.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004239)  
O, yung lahat.

**[04:19:12.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004240)  
Yung lahat ng accomplishments.

**[04:19:17.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004241)  
Para makita ng taong bayan, talaga bang may nagawa to?

**[04:19:21.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004242)  
At hinihingi pa kayo ng dagdag eh.

**[04:19:24.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004243)  
Nakatulong ba sa pag-aresto ng mga wanted?

**[04:19:29.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004244)  
Nakatulong ba sa pag-convict ng mga...

**[04:19:32.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004245)  
Dapat...

**[04:19:35.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004246)  
Mapakulong.

**[04:19:39.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004247)  
So, Madam Speaker, in general, they cannot...

**[04:19:44.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004248)  
They cannot.

**[04:19:45.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004249)  
They'll valsh because it would affect investigation of other activities rin po.

**[04:19:49.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004250)  
Okay, okay.

**[04:19:50.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004251)  
So,

**[04:19:51.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004252)  
Okay, noted po yung mga sagot niyo and then that informs our position and strengthens our position

**[04:20:00.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004253)  
on the excesses in appropriations and use of confidential funds.

**[04:20:11.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004254)  
But let me move on kasi pa maubos po ang oras natin.

**[04:20:16.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004255)  
I want to move on to the...

**[04:20:18.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004256)  
Thank you po for answering questions.

**[04:20:21.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004257)  
Regarding the confidential expenses, nanatili yung posisyon natin na pambihira po ang paglobo ng confidential funds

**[04:20:28.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004258)  
mula nung panahon ni...

**[04:20:30.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004259)  
ng dating...

**[04:20:31.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004260)  
ng nakarang administrasyon, pinagpatuloy at lalo pang dinagdagan ng Marcos Jr. Administration.

**[04:20:39.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004261)  
No?

**[04:20:39.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004262)  
At sa ang paniniwala natin, the objectives of these funds may be accomplished without necessarily...

**[04:20:50.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004263)  
without necessarily...

**[04:20:51.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004264)  
without necessarily...

**[04:20:51.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004265)  
giving it blanket confidentiality.

**[04:20:54.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004266)  
Pinapakita ng nangyari sa Office of the Vice President kung gaano kadali ang pag-abuso nito.

**[04:21:00.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004267)  
No?

**[04:21:01.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004268)  
Anyway, let me move on to the PCGG na attached agency po ng DOJ.

**[04:21:12.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004269)  
At alam po natin ang tanging mandato ng PCGG, Recovery of Marcos Ilgatenwell.

**[04:21:20.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004270)  
Tama po?

**[04:21:21.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004271)  
Tama po, Madam Speaker.

**[04:21:23.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004272)  
At recently, of course, nagkaroon po ng ruling ang Sandigang Bayan.

**[04:21:34.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004273)  
Sandigang Bayan po, no?

**[04:21:35.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004274)  
Nagkaroon ng ruling ang Sandigang Bayan in the civil case number 0141.

**[04:21:43.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004275)  
This is an omnibus civil case filed way back in 1991 by the PCG.

**[04:21:50.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004276)  
For the recovery of numerous properties from the Marcos family.

**[04:22:00.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004277)  
In fact, may mga partial na nabawi na, significant.

**[04:22:06.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004278)  
Like the Swiss bank deposits worth $658 million, the Arelma accounts, the jewelry, the famous jewelry collection,

**[04:22:18.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004279)  
at saka a number of...

**[04:22:20.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004280)  
A number of paintings, and so on.

**[04:22:22.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004281)  
Bahagi yun ang civil case na ito.

**[04:22:25.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004282)  
Pero recently po, ay may decision na i-dismiss to, at actually, yung gobyerno pa.

**[04:22:36.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004283)  
Ang nagsabi, pwede ba i-dismiss na natin?

**[04:22:38.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004284)  
Or hindi na namin i-pro-prosecute ang kaso?

**[04:22:43.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004285)  
Tama po ba?

**[04:22:44.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004286)  
At pwedeng ipaliwanag kung anong nangyari dito?

**[04:22:46.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004287)  
Anong nangyari dito?

**[04:22:50.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004288)  
The PCGG was required to manifest kung gusto pang magpresenta ng ebidensya for the rest of the assets po na alleged po doon sa complaint. So again, ang PCGG ay nag-manifest na...

**[04:23:22.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004290)  
They manifested that they will still present evidence po.

**[04:23:33.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004291)  
They will not present any evidence po.

**[04:23:37.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004292)  
Okay. Yun nga. Dahil nag-manifest ng PCGG,

**[04:23:42.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004293)  
hindi na sila makakapag...

**[04:23:43.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004294)  
They will no longer present evidence.

**[04:23:46.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004295)  
The case was dismissed.

**[04:23:47.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004296)  
The civil case was dismissed.

**[04:23:49.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004297)  
Okay.

**[04:23:50.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004298)  
Um, could the, uh, could the PCGG just, uh, place on the record how much of that civil case 0141, may partial recoveries,

**[04:24:04.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004299)  
how much was, remained, has remained unrecovered because they said they would no longer present evidence?

**[04:24:15.480] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004300)  
The chair would like to inform Rep. Inyo that his time has expired.

**[04:24:20.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004301)  
Thank you.

**[04:24:21.880] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004302)  
We'll just get the exact figure po, Madam Speaker, if we could give it also or provide it to our distinguished colleague.

**[04:24:33.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004303)  
Okay. So, yun po yung isang tanong. Hindi po nila mabigay?

**[04:24:38.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004304)  
They're just getting the numbers po, Madam Speaker.

**[04:24:41.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004305)  
Getting the numbers.

**[04:24:42.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004306)  
And then, um, during the budget hearings, I asked and I have been provided with...

**[04:24:50.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004307)  
ah, information on the total value of the remaining pending PCGG cases for recovery of ill-gotten wealth.

**[04:25:02.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004308)  
And here, ah, ah, the PCGG has said that there are a total of 67 pending cases pending before the Sandigan Bayan or lower courts.

**[04:25:17.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004309)  
34.

**[04:25:17.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004310)  
34.

**[04:25:18.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004311)  
On appeal...

**[04:25:19.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004312)  
With, ah, Supreme Court or CA 31, pending in foreign courts, 2, for a total of 67,

**[04:25:28.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004313)  
the total monetary value of ill-gotten wealth that should be recovered amounts to 76.773 billion.

**[04:25:40.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004314)  
No?

**[04:25:41.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004315)  
Ah, does the PCGG confirm that?

**[04:25:45.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004316)  
Meron pa pong 67 cases na pending na...

**[04:25:49.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004317)  
ill-gotten wealth case na gusto pang bawiin ng gobyerno sa Pamilya Marcos.

**[04:25:56.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004318)  
76.773 billion.

**[04:25:59.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004319)  
Tama po?

**[04:26:00.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004320)  
Yes, there are still 67 pending cases po.

**[04:26:03.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004321)  
67 pending cases.

**[04:26:05.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004322)  
Pakiklaro lang po yung on appeal with, ah, SE, SE 31.

**[04:26:09.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004323)  
Recently, there is a case where 7 of the, ah, corruption charges against...

**[04:26:19.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004324)  
ah, the former First Lady, ah, and member of the House, Imelda Marcos, was dismissed.

**[04:26:28.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004325)  
So, ibig po ba sabihin, babawasan, yung 67, babawasan ng 7?

**[04:26:34.260] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004326)  
Ah, Madam Speaker, hindi po kasama yun sa...

**[04:26:36.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004327)  
Hindi po, hindi kasama.

**[04:26:38.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004328)  
Okay, so, klaro po yun.

**[04:26:39.780] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-004329)  
Yes, ma'am.

**[04:26:40.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004330)  
Okay.

**[04:26:40.580] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004331)  
Kindly wrap up.

**[04:26:42.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004332)  
Wrapping you.

**[04:26:42.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004333)  
Okay.

**[04:26:43.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004334)  
Thank you.

**[04:26:43.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004335)  
Um, let, I will wrap up then, ah, Madam Speaker.

**[04:26:49.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004336)  
Ah, the PCG, para rin ma-place on the record yung accomplishments ng PCGG.

**[04:26:55.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004337)  
Meron pong binanggit dito na tatlong, ah, dalawa pala, na significant recent, ah, victories or accomplishments of PCGG.

**[04:27:06.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004338)  
Para huwag naman po isipin na walang ginagawa ang, wala nang ginagawa ang PCGG.

**[04:27:12.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004339)  
Na ipanalo raw yung kaso kaugnay sa Malacanang of the North, in Paway, Ilocos Norte.

**[04:27:19.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004340)  
Ah, in other words, nagrulang Supreme Court na pag-aari ng gobyerno, hindi ng, ah, Pamilya Marcos, yung, ah, 576,000 square meters of, ah, the Malacanang of the North.

**[04:27:39.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004341)  
Tama po ba yun?

**[04:27:41.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004342)  
So, sa gobyerno yun.

**[04:27:42.580] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004343)  
The Chair would like to inform again, Representative Pino, that his time has expired.

**[04:27:47.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004344)  
Last na po, last na po.

**[04:27:49.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004345)  
And then, finally...

**[04:27:49.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004346)  
So, this is important.

**[04:27:51.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004347)  
Nanalo din po sa Supreme Court kaugnay sa Payanig sa Pasig Property.

**[04:27:59.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004348)  
Again, ruling that this is property of the government.

**[04:28:04.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004349)  
These victories affirm the Republic's ownership and control over significant properties, more or less 50 billion in value.

**[04:28:12.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004350)  
So, napakahalaga po na panalo na hindi ito sa Pamilya Marcos.

**[04:28:19.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004351)  
Kung hindi, sa gobyerno ng Pilipinas, 50 billion.

**[04:28:23.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004352)  
No joke po yan.

**[04:28:25.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004353)  
Okay.

**[04:28:26.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004354)  
So, however, meron pang 76 billion na hinahabol.

**[04:28:32.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004355)  
Okay.

**[04:28:33.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004356)  
So, ah, with that, Madam Speaker, ah, ubos na po ang aking oras.

**[04:28:40.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004357)  
Ah, maraming salamat po.

**[04:28:42.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004358)  
Thank you.

**[04:28:42.780] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004359)  
Thank you, Representative Tinio, Majority Leader.

**[04:28:45.080] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-004360)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable...

**[04:28:49.660] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-004361)  
Honorable Marcelino C. Libanan.

**[04:28:51.960] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004362)  
Representative Marcelino Libanan, our Minority Floor Leader, is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[04:29:01.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-004363)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[04:29:04.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-004364)  
Madam Speaker, bago po ako patuloy, gusto ko munang i-greet ang aking family,

**[04:29:10.580] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-004365)  
former family, the Department of Justice. Magandang hapon po sa inyong lahat.

**[04:29:13.940] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-004366)  
At, Madam Speaker, sila wala nang mag-i-interpellate.

**[04:29:19.660] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-004367)  
Sa hanay ng minorya sa Kongreso,

**[04:29:24.600] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-004368)  
kaya, on behalf of the minority,

**[04:29:28.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-004369)  
I would like to move, terminate the period for interpellation and debate

**[04:29:34.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-004370)  
on the Department of Justice, including its attached agencies, Madam Speaker.

**[04:29:39.700] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004371)  
What does the House say?

**[04:29:41.640] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-004372)  
Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority

**[04:29:44.780] Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla** (asr-004373)  
in the motion to terminate the period of interpellation on the proposed budget of the DOJ.

**[04:29:49.660] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004374)  
There is a joint motion to terminate interpellations on the proposed budget of the Department of Justice,

**[04:29:55.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004375)  
including its attached agencies. Is there any objection?

**[04:29:59.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004376)  
The Chair hears none.

**[04:30:00.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004377)  
The interpellations on the proposed budget of said department and its attached agencies is hereby terminated.

**[04:30:10.340] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004378)  
Majority Leader?

**[04:30:13.140] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004379)  
Madam Speaker, under the budgetary support of the government corporations, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Philippine Center for Economic Development.

**[04:30:27.400] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004380)  
Is there any objection? The chair hears none. The motion is approved.

**[04:30:32.420] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004381)  
Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes.

**[04:30:35.460] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004382)  
Session is suspended.

**[04:35:12.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004391)  
Session is resumed. Majority Leader?

**[04:35:17.940] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004392)  
Madam Speaker, I would like to reiterate my earlier motion.

**[04:35:21.700] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004393)  
Under the budgetary support of the government corporations, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Philippine Center for Economic Development.

**[04:35:27.260] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004394)  
Is there any objection? The chair hears none. The motion is approved.

**[04:35:33.780] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004395)  
Majority Leader?

**[04:35:34.920] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004396)  
Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Philippine Center for Economic Development.

**[04:35:41.440] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004397)  
They are the following. Executive Director, Maria Joy V. Abrinica. Madam Speaker.

**[04:35:47.460] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004398)  
We will acknowledge the presence of the heads and staff of Philippine Center for Economic Development.

**[04:35:53.060] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004399)  
Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader?

**[04:35:56.400] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004401)  
Madam Speaker?

**[04:35:57.260] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004402)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chair from the Committee on Appropriations, Vice Chair Maria Isabel L. Zagarbaria to sponsor the proposed budget for the Philippine Center for Economic Development.

**[04:36:09.940] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004403)  
Is there any objection? The chair hears none. Representative Maria Isabel Zagarbaria, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, is hereby recognized to begin the sponsorship of House Bill No. 10858.

**[04:36:22.840] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004404)  
Majority Leader?

**[04:36:24.000] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004405)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues,

**[04:36:27.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004406)  
I respectfully seek the support of this Honorable House for the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget for the Philippine Center for Economic Development. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[04:36:41.980] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004407)  
Majority Leader?

**[04:36:44.120] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004408)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Presley de Jesus.

**[04:36:50.700] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004409)  
Representative Presley de Jesus of Eureka Partidos is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[04:36:55.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004410)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[04:36:57.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004411)  
Madam Speaker, there being no more members for the minority who wishes to interpolate, I move to terminate the budget, the period of sponsorship and debate for the budget of the Philippine Center for Economic Development. So move, Madam Speaker.

**[04:37:15.480] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004412)  
What does the House say?

**[04:37:16.800] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004413)  
Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpolations on the proposed budget of the Center for Economic Development.

**[04:37:27.120] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004414)  
There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellation of the proposed budget of the Philippine Center for Economic Development.

**[04:37:33.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004415)  
Is there any objection? The chair hears none. The interpellation on the proposed budget of said agency is hereby terminated.

**[04:37:40.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004416)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:37:43.520] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004417)  
Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation.

**[04:37:54.040] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004418)  
Is there any objection? The chair hears none. The motion is approved.

**[04:37:57.700] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004419)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:37:59.320] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004420)  
Madam Speaker, before we proceed, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Philippine Postal Corporation.

**[04:38:04.060] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004421)  
They are the following.

**[04:38:05.340] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004422)  
Postmaster General and CEO Maximus C. Santamaria III.

**[04:38:10.500] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004423)  
Assistant Postmaster General Gilbert B. Javier.

**[04:38:16.400] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004424)  
Associate Postmaster General Noreen Boots G. Gragasin.

**[04:38:20.560] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004425)  
Associate Postmaster General Marigold D. Libuit-

**[04:38:24.240] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004426)  
Arroyo.

**[04:38:25.260] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004427)  
We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials of the Philippine Postal Corporation.

**[04:38:30.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004428)  
Welcome to the House of Representatives.

**[04:38:32.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004429)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:38:32.740] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004430)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Sagar Barilla to sponsor the proposed budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation.

**[04:38:40.780] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004431)  
Is there any objection? The chair hears none.

**[04:38:43.540] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004432)  
Representative Isabel Sagar Barilla, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, is hereby recognized to sponsor the budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation.

**[04:38:52.820] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004433)  
Madam Speaker.

**[04:38:54.040] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004434)  
Distinguished Colleagues, I respectfully seek the support of this Honorable House for the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation.

**[04:39:04.740] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004435)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[04:39:06.660] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004436)  
This representation is now ready to answer questions from our colleagues.

**[04:39:10.620] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004437)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:39:12.040] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004438)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Presley de Jesus.

**[04:39:16.980] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004439)  
Representative Presley de Jesus is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[04:39:21.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004440)  
Again, Madam Speaker.

**[04:39:24.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004441)  
There being no more members for the minority who wish to interpellate, I move to terminate the period of sponsorship and debate for the budget of the Philippine Postal

**[04:39:36.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004442)  
Corporation, or PhilPost. So moved, Madam Speaker.

**[04:39:39.660] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004443)  
What does the House say?

**[04:39:41.460] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004444)  
Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation.

**[04:39:49.740] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004445)  
There is a joint motion to terminate interpellations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation.

**[04:39:54.040] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004446)  
Is there any objection?

**[04:39:56.180] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004447)  
The Chair hears none.

**[04:39:57.460] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004448)  
The interpellation of the proposed budget of the Philippine Postal Corporation is hereby terminated.

**[04:40:03.060] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004449)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:40:06.780] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004450)  
Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Philippine Reclamation Authority.

**[04:40:12.660] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004451)  
Is there any objection?

**[04:40:14.020] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004452)  
The Chair hears none.

**[04:40:14.960] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004453)  
The motion is approved.

**[04:40:16.480] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004454)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:40:17.780] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004455)  
Madam Speaker, before I proceed, may we acknowledge the heads and the officials of the PRA?

**[04:40:21.660] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004456)  
They are the following.

**[04:40:24.040] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004457)  
Chairman Alexander T. Lopez, General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr., Member Board of Director Anthony Peter D. Crisologo.

**[04:40:33.280] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004458)  
Madam Speaker.

**[04:40:34.060] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004459)  
We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials from the Philippine Reclamation Authority.

**[04:40:38.440] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004460)  
Welcome to the House of Representatives.

**[04:40:40.120] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004461)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:40:41.800] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004462)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chair Josefina B. Taliado from the 1st District of Camarines Norte to sponsor the budget of the PRA.

**[04:40:52.260] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004463)  
Is there any objection?

**[04:40:54.040] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004464)  
The Chair hears none.

**[04:40:55.420] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004465)  
Representative Josefina Taliado, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, is hereby recognized to sponsor the budget of the Philippine Reclamation Authority.

**[04:41:04.620] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004466)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:41:05.640] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004467)  
Go ahead.

**[04:41:06.420] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004468)  
Sorry.

**[04:41:12.220] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004469)  
The Honorable Taliado may now proceed with her sponsorship speech.

**[04:41:15.460] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004470)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues,

**[04:41:19.520] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004471)  
I rise today to present for the consideration of this august chamber,

**[04:41:24.060] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004472)  
the proposed 5 billion budgetary support for the Philippine Reclamation Authority for Fiscal Year 2027.

**[04:41:34.840] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004473)  
Intended for the continued implementation of the Philippine International Exhibition Center, PIEC.

**[04:41:44.940] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004474)  
PRA is the government instrumentality mandated not only to regulate and undertake reclamation,

**[04:41:52.920] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004475)  
but

**[04:41:53.820] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004476)  
also

**[04:41:54.380] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004477)  
to

**[04:41:55.140] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004478)  
pursue

**[04:41:55.540] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004479)  
infrastructure development and the development and management of public estate in the national interest.

**[04:42:05.720] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004480)  
In furtherance of this mandate, the PIEC is envisioned as a national flagship infrastructure project

**[04:42:15.860] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004481)  
that will strengthen the country's capacity to host major international meetings,

**[04:42:23.040] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004482)  
conventions, and exhibitions, support tourism, and related industries,

**[04:42:31.280] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004483)  
and enhance the productive use and value of government-owned properties in the area.

**[04:42:38.980] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004484)  
With this, Madam Speaker, I am ready for the interpellation and in advance,

**[04:42:45.200] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004485)  
I thank our distinguished colleagues for their consideration and support

**[04:42:51.740] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004486)  
for the

**[04:42:53.040] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004487)  
proposed budget of the Philippine Reclamation Authority.

**[04:42:57.240] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004488)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[04:42:58.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004489)  
Majority Leader?

**[04:43:00.900] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-004490)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Presley de Jesus to interpellate the sponsor.

**[04:43:06.500] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004491)  
Representative Presley de Jesus of [unclear] is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[04:43:11.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004492)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, and to the distinguished sponsor.

**[04:43:17.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004493)  
The 5 billion Philippine International Exhibition Center allocation

**[04:43:23.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004494)  
provides the Philippine Reclamation Authority with 5 billion pesos

**[04:43:30.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004495)  
for the Philippine International Exhibition Center, or PIEC.

**[04:43:35.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004496)  
This is a substantial new appropriation for a government-owned or controlled corporation

**[04:43:41.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004497)  
that ordinarily undertakes proprietary and revenue-generating activities.

**[04:43:50.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004498)  
Question.

**[04:43:51.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004499)  
Why is an additional appropriation?

**[04:43:53.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004500)  
Why is an additional 5 billion in national government support

**[04:43:55.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004501)  
being coursed through the PRA for the PIEC

**[04:43:59.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004502)  
considering that the project is being implemented

**[04:44:03.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004503)  
by the Department of Public Works and Highways

**[04:44:06.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004504)  
for the Office of the President?

**[04:44:12.980] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004505)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:44:15.500] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004506)  
Your Honor,

**[04:44:17.580] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004508)  
Ang project po natin.

**[04:44:23.040] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004509)  
Ang unang dalawang SARO po kasi ng project ay

**[04:44:30.200] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004510)  
nanggaling na sa Office of the President.

**[04:44:36.520] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004511)  
Pero ngayon po

**[04:44:38.480] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004512)  
humihingi po kami

**[04:44:40.480] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004513)  
siyempre

**[04:44:41.140] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004514)  
ng kaukulang pondo

**[04:44:42.220] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004515)  
dito na sa atin.

**[04:44:44.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004516)  
Dahil po

**[04:44:45.280] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004517)  
ang DPWH naman po

**[04:44:50.320] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004518)  
siyempre

**[04:44:51.040] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004519)  
nagkaroon tayo ng

**[04:44:52.480] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004520)  
MOA

**[04:44:55.880] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004521)  
dahil sila ang mas higit na nakakaalam sa implementation ng proyekto.

**[04:45:02.680] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004522)  
Kaya po, nararapat lang na ang DPWH ang mag-implement ng project.

**[04:45:13.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004538)  
Madam Speaker, my follow-up question is, what is the precise financial responsibility of the PRA, the Department of Public Works and Highways, and the Office of the President for the project?

**[04:45:25.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004539)  
And which entity will own, operate, maintain, and receive revenues from the completed facility?

**[04:45:35.080] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004540)  
Madam Speaker, Your Honor, PRA handles the government asset and project side, while DPWH handles the procurement, design, and construction.

**[04:45:51.840] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004541)  
Ang project naman po ay para sa nasyonal.

**[04:45:55.380] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004542)  
Government under the Office of the President.

**[04:46:02.680] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004543)  
At ito po ay sinama sa list of infrastructure project, flagship project ng pamahalaan.

**[04:46:11.560] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004544)  
Kapag natapos na po ang PIEC, pangangasiwaan po ito ng PRA.

**[04:46:18.360] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004545)  
So, ang revenue po na makukuha dito ay makakadagdag

**[04:46:25.380] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004546)  
sa dibidendo na ibinibigay ng PRA sa pamahalaan.

**[04:46:28.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004547)  
So, in short, Madam Speaker, once the project has been completed, PRA na po ang magpapatakbo. Tama ho ba yun?

**[04:46:37.000] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004548)  
Yes po.

**[04:46:39.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004549)  
Next, what alternative financing arrangements including PRA corporate funds, land development, revenues, borrowings, or private participation were evaluated before additional national government funding was sought?

**[04:46:53.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004550)  
Ito po ba

**[04:46:55.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004553)  
Pinag-aralang mabuti bago po kayo humingi ng national government funding?

**[04:47:00.680] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004554)  
Ah, yes po. Ito po ay pinag-aralang mabuti bago po kami humingi ng pondo.

**[04:47:10.320] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004555)  
Ayon po kasi sa CAVCOM approval, NEDA board confirmation at RDC approval, ang national government ang gagastos ng project cost.

**[04:47:24.500] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004556)  
At ang PRA naman, ang contribution niya ay yung lupa.

**[04:47:31.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004557)  
Okay. What return, whether through revenue, employment, tourism receipts, or appreciation of public land, should taxpayers expect from this investment?

**[04:47:42.740] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004558)  
Ang financial and economic benefits po ay evaluated ng NEDA.

**[04:47:57.240] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004559)  
Ah, 1.33 trillion pesos, absolute peso value of total net economic benefits over 50 years based on conservative assumption.

**[04:48:12.740] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004560)  
And 377.7 billion pesos, absolute peso value of total net financial benefit over 50 years based on conservative assumptions.

**[04:48:29.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004561)  
So, Madam Speaker, if the PIEC eventually generates a profit, will the national government recover its 5 billion contribution before revenues are retained?

**[04:48:42.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004562)  
Or distributed elsewhere? Ito po ba ibabalik sa gobyerno o i-dedistribute po sa iba-ibang departamento?

**[04:48:51.740] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004563)  
Yes po.

**[04:48:53.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004564)  
Which particular department po or agencies ang makikinabang dito once na-recover po itong 5 billion contribution ng national government?

**[04:49:04.920] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004565)  
Siyempre po, ang makikinabang dito, ang ating unang-una, ang BIR.

**[04:49:12.500] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004566)  
Kasi, siyempre, yung papasok na profit sa atin.

**[04:49:17.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004567)  
And ikalawa po, inaasahang lilikha ito ng trabaho, negosyo para sa mga, especially yung sa mga hotels po.

**[04:49:26.820] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004568)  
Kasi napapaikutan siya ng establishment.

**[04:49:31.800] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004569)  
Of course, pag may convention, so yun po ang papasok na income sa gobyerno.

**[04:49:39.780] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004570)  
At ang ikatlo po, lalaki.

**[04:49:42.500] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004571)  
Ang turismo sa Pilipinas, dahil tayo po ay, alam natin, napag-iiwanan na rin natin.

**[04:49:50.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004572)  
Napag-iiwanan na tayo kasi wala nga tayong mapagdausan ng malaking mga events sa Pilipinas.

**[04:50:02.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004573)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[04:50:04.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004574)  
The PIEC is reported to cost approximately 27 billion.

**[04:50:08.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004575)  
Tama ho ba ito?

**[04:50:10.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004576)  
27 billion ang total na...

**[04:50:12.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004577)  
Yes.

**[04:50:12.500] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004578)  
27 billion.

**[04:50:16.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004579)  
And then your target will be this year, 40% lang po ang completion and the rest will be on 2027 by the end of 2027.

**[04:50:28.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004580)  
Ito ba yung makukumpleto natin before the end of 2027? Itong project na ito?

**[04:50:33.960] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004581)  
Hindi pa po natin makukumpleto ang proyekto ngayong 2027.

**[04:50:40.020] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004582)  
Ang inish, ang inaasahan po natin makukumpleto.

**[04:50:42.500] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004583)  
Ito ang proyekto ay sa April 2028.

**[04:50:46.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004584)  
April?

**[04:50:47.720] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004585)  
2028 po.

**[04:50:48.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004586)  
2028.

**[04:50:49.500] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004587)  
Yes po.

**[04:50:53.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004588)  
So, my next question, what is the complete funding and implementation plan for the PIEC from initial design through construction, equipment procurement, testing, and opening?

**[04:51:06.020] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004589)  
So, ang kalahatang pondo nga po natin is 27 billion.

**[04:51:16.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004590)  
Again, it's related to my first question.

**[04:51:21.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004591)  
What portion of the estimated 27 billion cost remains unfunded?

**[04:51:27.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004592)  
Magkano po yung kailangan nyo pa po?

**[04:51:29.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004593)  
Okay.

**[04:51:33.020] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004594)  
Ang kakulangan pa po natin...

**[04:51:36.020] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004595)  
Pondo ay yung 5 billion at saka yung 10 billion para po makumpleto natin ang ating PIEC.

**[04:51:46.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004596)  
So, while phase 1 reached only 90% completion by the end of 2027, kasama doon po ba yung 5 billion na i-appropriate na?

**[04:51:57.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004597)  
O ito po'y kukulangin pa?

**[04:52:01.700] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004598)  
Kumpleto po.

**[04:52:02.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004599)  
Kasama na yung 5 billion by 2027.

**[04:52:04.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004600)  
So, the...

**[04:52:06.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004601)  
The 5 billion additional fund, ito na po ang magtatapos o kukumpleto yun?

**[04:52:11.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004602)  
No, hindi po.

**[04:52:12.920] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004603)  
Phase 1 pa lang po yun.

**[04:52:14.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004604)  
So, yung phase 1 kasama yung 5 billion.

**[04:52:16.920] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004605)  
So, yung phase 2 po...

**[04:52:17.980] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004606)  
Yung phase 2 po, yun yung magtatapos po ng ating construction building, yung PIEC ng 10 billion pa po.

**[04:52:27.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004607)  
And that's the remaining?

**[04:52:29.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004608)  
Yes.

**[04:52:29.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004609)  
Yung sinama nyo na ba?

**[04:52:30.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004610)  
Pinaktor na po yung inflation rate, lahat po kasama na dyan.

**[04:52:34.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004611)  
Pati yung dollar po natin habang ngayon.

**[04:52:36.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004612)  
Tumataas pa?

**[04:52:37.840] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004613)  
Yes po.

**[04:52:38.700] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004614)  
Anticipated na po.

**[04:52:39.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004615)  
Okay.

**[04:52:42.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004616)  
My next question, climate resilience of a facility built on a reclaimed land.

**[04:52:47.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004617)  
Kasi ito po lagi problema natin, no?

**[04:52:49.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004618)  
Pag the property is being reclaimed.

**[04:52:52.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004619)  
The PIEC is being built on reclaimed land in Manila Bay.

**[04:52:56.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004620)  
An area exposed to typhoons, storm surge, sea level rise, land subsidence,

**[04:53:04.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004621)  
liquefaction,

**[04:53:06.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004622)  
and flooding.

**[04:53:07.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004623)  
A facility expected to operate for several decades must be designed for future climate conditions

**[04:53:14.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004624)  
rather than only historical averages.

**[04:53:18.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004625)  
Question.

**[04:53:19.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004626)  
What climate and geotechnical standards were used in designing the PIEC and its reclaimed site?

**[04:53:27.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004627)  
Ito po kasi nagiging problema ngayon.

**[04:53:29.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004628)  
Pag ano, sa Japan nga po, yung airport nila, every year po,

**[04:53:33.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004629)  
nag-ano, nag-a...

**[04:53:36.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004630)  
Magsisig, bumababa po.

**[04:53:37.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004631)  
Kasi ito po, malaki.

**[04:53:38.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004632)  
We're talking about 27 billion plus 10 billion pa.

**[04:53:42.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004633)  
Kung sakali po lumabog to or magka-problema.

**[04:53:45.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004634)  
Alam niyo po, ang ating bansa, tayo po yung pinakapaborito ng mga...

**[04:53:50.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004635)  
ng typhoons.

**[04:53:51.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004636)  
Lagi nilang every year, not less than 20 typhoons na dumatid po sa atin.

**[04:53:57.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004637)  
Your comment?

**[04:53:58.940] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004638)  
Madam Speaker, Your Honor,

**[04:54:00.520] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004639)  
hindi po ako naniniwala, nalulubog.

**[04:54:05.340] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004640)  
Kasi po, pinag-aralan natin, pinag-aralan ito.

**[04:54:09.120] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004641)  
Hindi lang naman po ang DNR ang nag-aral dito.

**[04:54:12.360] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004642)  
So, una po, sa climate resilient design,

**[04:54:17.920] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004643)  
nagsasagawa po ng risk assessment upang matukoy ang climate related risk.

**[04:54:25.560] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004644)  
Yun na nga po, particular ang flooding, storm,

**[04:54:28.780] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004645)  
ay sinasagawa po at kinakailangan ng resilient measures sa design ng pasis.

**[04:54:35.340] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004646)  
At ikalawa po, para sa flood protection,

**[04:54:39.480] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004647)  
ang structure po ay disinenyong elevate above the applicable base flood levels

**[04:54:46.760] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004648)  
at magkakaroon ng flood barriers upang mabawasan ang exposure sa potential flood.

**[04:54:55.020] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004649)  
At ikatlo po, para sa heat mitigation,

**[04:54:59.120] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004650)  
kasama sa design ang passive cooling strategies

**[04:55:03.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004651)  
gaya ng natural ventilation.

**[04:55:05.340] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004652)  
Shading, reflective roofing materials, at urban greening upang mabawasan ng heat gain at energy consumption.

**[04:55:18.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004653)  
So, in short, sino ang contractor dito?

**[04:55:20.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004654)  
Is it foreign or local po ang nanaro?

**[04:55:24.280] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004655)  
Actually po, hindi pa naman po.

**[04:55:29.240] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004656)  
Yung phase 1 po is EEI.

**[04:55:31.520] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004657)  
So, itong second phase po natin,

**[04:55:34.460] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004658)  
hindi pa naman po,

**[04:55:35.340] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004659)  
nabibid.

**[04:55:37.120] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004660)  
Kung mabibigyan po ng pagkakataon nga

**[04:55:39.080] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004661)  
para matuloy ang proyekto natin na ito,

**[04:55:42.220] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004662)  
ay saka pa lang po ibibid

**[04:55:43.700] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004663)  
pag may pera na itong hawak.

**[04:55:46.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004664)  
Ito ang kasi karamihan tinatanong,

**[04:55:49.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004665)  
is the project undergone an independent climate risk stress test.

**[04:55:57.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004666)  
Meron mo ba kayo na-hire na independent na very familiar

**[04:56:01.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004667)  
or ito po talagang kanilang forte

**[04:56:04.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004668)  
sa mga ganitong reclaimed site or area or land po

**[04:56:10.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004669)  
na climate risk stress test?

**[04:56:13.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004670)  
Sino po?

**[04:56:14.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004671)  
Meron mo kayong independent na kinuha na mag-survey?

**[04:56:17.580] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004672)  
Meron po.

**[04:56:18.360] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004673)  
Meron po siyempre independent agency na survey po.

**[04:56:22.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004674)  
O kung ilan po sila?

**[04:56:23.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004675)  
Isa lang ho ba?

**[04:56:23.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004676)  
Ano?

**[04:56:44.420] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004680)  
Anong survey po niya na yung Royal Asconis?

**[04:56:49.880] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004681)  
Royal Asconis.

**[04:56:55.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004682)  
From, siguro, I guess from Europe to, no?

**[04:56:59.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004683)  
Yes po.

**[04:57:00.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004684)  
Which particular?

**[04:57:01.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004685)  
Dutch.

**[04:57:02.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004686)  
Okay, Dutch.

**[04:57:04.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004687)  
So, my follow-up question is also related, no?

**[04:57:07.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004688)  
Alam nyo, no?

**[04:57:07.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004689)  
Once na matapos na natin itong proyektong to,

**[04:57:11.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004690)  
hindi lang po dyan nagtatapos yung ating pagbabantay, no?

**[04:57:16.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004691)  
Although maganda yung project,

**[04:57:18.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004692)  
nagkaroon ng independent stress test,

**[04:57:21.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004693)  
pero alam nyo po, ang climate natin, every year, nagbabago.

**[04:57:25.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004694)  
Who will pay for the future seawalls,

**[04:57:28.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004695)  
ground stabilization or elevation works

**[04:57:31.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004696)  
if climate conditions exceed,

**[04:57:34.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004697)  
the original assumption?

**[04:57:35.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004698)  
Alam po natin, eh,

**[04:57:37.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004699)  
pabago-bago po ating panoon.

**[04:57:38.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004700)  
So, the good thing that we did today,

**[04:57:41.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004701)  
pagdating 10 years from now,

**[04:57:43.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004702)  
magbabago na naman yan.

**[04:57:44.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004703)  
So, sino po yung magmamonitor,

**[04:57:47.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004704)  
yung tinatag nating operating,

**[04:57:49.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004705)  
operation and maintenance,

**[04:57:51.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004706)  
sino po ang mag-aalaga nito?

**[04:57:54.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004707)  
Kairin mo po ba sa PRA

**[04:57:56.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004708)  
o meron mo kayong independent na kukunin

**[04:57:59.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004709)  
just to maintain itong ating facility?

**[04:58:02.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004710)  
We're talking about 27 billion.

**[04:58:04.420] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004711)  
PRA pa rin po, siyempre.

**[04:58:06.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004712)  
Yes po.

**[04:58:06.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004713)  
Sila pa rin po.

**[04:58:07.820] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004714)  
Yes po.

**[04:58:08.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004715)  
So, do you have enough technical people

**[04:58:11.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004716)  
to maintain itong seawall natin

**[04:58:15.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004717)  
o ano man lang itong kailangan gawin dito?

**[04:58:17.520] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004718)  
Meron po, kasi, di ba,

**[04:58:19.580] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004719)  
nagsimula pa naman po ang reclamation,

**[04:58:21.740] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004720)  
1973.

**[04:58:23.480] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004721)  
Ako po nun ay,

**[04:58:25.100] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004722)  
hindi ako magkakamali,

**[04:58:26.120] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004723)  
apat na taong pa lang ako nun.

**[04:58:28.360] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004724)  
So, nabukin nyo ang edad ko.

**[04:58:29.940] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004725)  
So, wala naman po, di ba,

**[04:58:32.620] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004726)  
wala naman tayong nabalitaan.

**[04:58:34.420] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004727)  
Ganong mga incident.

**[04:58:36.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004728)  
That's very enlightening, no?

**[04:58:39.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004729)  
For how many years na nireclaim natin,

**[04:58:41.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004730)  
not even one,

**[04:58:42.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004731)  
na talagang sinabi na tinamaan

**[04:58:46.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004732)  
or nagsubside

**[04:58:48.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004733)  
or nawala.

**[04:58:49.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004734)  
Naging tubig ulit.

**[04:58:51.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004735)  
Siguro wala pa nangyayaring ganyan, no?

**[04:58:53.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004736)  
In the history of PRA.

**[04:58:55.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004737)  
So, congratulations sa inyo, PRA, no?

**[04:58:57.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004738)  
For doing a good job.

**[04:58:58.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004739)  
Now, I want to go to my second to the last question.

**[04:59:01.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004740)  
Status of Manila Bay reclamation

**[04:59:04.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004741)  
moratorium.

**[04:59:06.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004742)  
The President suspended

**[04:59:07.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004743)  
Manila Bay reclamation projects

**[04:59:10.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004744)  
in 2023.

**[04:59:12.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004745)  
Pending review.

**[04:59:13.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004746)  
The suspension was later lifted

**[04:59:15.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004747)  
for certain PASAY projects

**[04:59:18.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004748)  
after compliance review

**[04:59:20.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004749)  
while other projects

**[04:59:21.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004750)  
remained suspended pending assessment.

**[04:59:25.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004751)  
Question.

**[04:59:26.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004752)  
What is the exact status of every

**[04:59:28.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004753)  
reclamation project

**[04:59:30.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004754)  
covered by the Manila Bay suspension?

**[04:59:32.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004755)  
Ilan ho ba yung

**[04:59:33.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004756)  
until now?

**[04:59:34.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004757)  
Suspended po

**[04:59:37.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004758)  
ng mga projects po?

**[04:59:41.960] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004759)  
Your Honor,

**[04:59:43.740] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004760)  
noong August 4,

**[04:59:45.940] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004761)  
2023,

**[04:59:47.820] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004762)  
pinatasan ng Pangulo

**[04:59:49.000] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004763)  
ang DNR at PRA

**[04:59:50.720] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004764)  
na isuspende ang lahat

**[04:59:52.480] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004765)  
ng reclamation projects

**[04:59:54.340] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004766)  
at activities sa Manila Bay.

**[04:59:56.980] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004767)  
Habang nire-review po

**[04:59:58.260] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004768)  
ang compliance ng BAU.

**[05:00:00.000] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004769)  
Bawat proponents sa existing laws, rules, regulation, at environmental requirement.

**[05:00:07.540] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004770)  
Kasabay po ng pagsasagawa ng cumulative impact assessment.

**[05:00:12.480] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004771)  
And sa status po ng Manila Bay Reclamation Moratorium, batay po sa kasalo po yung status or matrix na nasa aming records.

**[05:00:26.320] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004772)  
Sandali lang po at masyadong maliit.

**[05:00:28.120] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004773)  
Tayo po yung...

**[05:00:33.740] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004774)  
Apat po yung nalip na yung suspension. So meron pa pong sampo na ten na hindi pa po nalilip yung suspension.

**[05:00:47.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004775)  
So all in all, fourteen.

**[05:00:49.680] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004776)  
Yes po.

**[05:00:50.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004777)  
Fourteen. How many were granted?

**[05:00:54.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004778)  
Na nagtuloy pa rin. Remember there was a suspension in the...

**[05:00:57.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004779)  
Under review. And then tunuloy po. Diba?

**[05:01:00.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004780)  
So ilan po yung ongoing projects ngayon?

**[05:01:03.320] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004781)  
Apat po.

**[05:01:04.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004782)  
Apat?

**[05:01:04.840] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004783)  
Yes po.

**[05:01:05.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004784)  
So hindi pala fourteen. Four at ten yung suspension.

**[05:01:09.540] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004785)  
Four at ten po.

**[05:01:10.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004786)  
Okay. So in totality, ilan po ang total hectares natin sa Manila Bay ngayon?

**[05:01:16.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004787)  
Yung ginagawa at saka yung dati na nagawa?

**[05:01:38.980] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004788)  
Your Honor, ang ating pong ongoing projects ay 625 hectares.

**[05:01:50.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004789)  
At yung mga dati po na nakalagay ngayon sa Manila Bay, yung MOA, yung mga hotels doon, ilan po yun total?

**[05:01:57.960] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004790)  
700 hectares po, Your Honor.

**[05:02:02.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004791)  
So all in all, sa Manila Bay, reclaimed lang, nasa almost 1,325 hectares?

**[05:02:10.420] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004792)  
Yes po, Your Honor.

**[05:02:11.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004793)  
So, ito, hypothetical po, magmula po doon sa Ross Boulevard,

**[05:02:19.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004794)  
kung saan doon talaga ano, going there to 1,600, 1,325,

**[05:02:25.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004795)  
mga ilang kilometro po ang ating na-reclaimed?

**[05:02:27.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004796)  
All the way po, hanggang doon.

**[05:02:30.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004797)  
So this is a ballpark figure.

**[05:02:32.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004798)  
But at least may idea tayo kung gano'n nakahaba yung ating na-re-reclaimed.

**[05:02:37.460] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004799)  
Your Honor, more or less po, seven kilometers.

**[05:02:41.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004800)  
From the start ng Ross Boulevard pa gano'n, seven kilometers?

**[05:02:46.000] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004801)  
Yes po.

**[05:02:47.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004802)  
Hindi ko na itatanong kung gano'n nakalalim yung mga tubig doon.

**[05:02:50.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004803)  
Sigurado ko, it's going to be deep.

**[05:02:52.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004804)  
So, I'm going to be, my last question, kasi maraming magtatanong din tungkol dito.

**[05:02:57.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004805)  
So, I would like to end my question na cumulative environment impact on Manila Bay.

**[05:03:04.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004806)  
An environmental compliance certificate typically evaluates an individual project.

**[05:03:11.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004807)  
Manila Bay, however, may be affected by the combined effects of multiple reclamation projects

**[05:03:17.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004808)  
on water circulation, flooding, fisheries, sediment, movement, and coastal ecosystem.

**[05:03:26.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004809)  
Question.

**[05:03:27.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004810)  
What?

**[05:03:27.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004811)  
What is the present status of the government's cumulative impact assessment for Manila Bay reclamation?

**[05:03:35.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004812)  
What has been completed to date?

**[05:03:37.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004813)  
And when will the final assessment be available?

**[05:03:54.880] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004814)  
Your Honor, yung phase one po natin is,

**[05:03:57.940] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004815)  
completed na po yun.

**[05:04:00.660] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004816)  
So, ang status po ay ongoing po yung iba kasi sinasagawa ng DNR.

**[05:04:13.060] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004817)  
May mga regulatory options ang government.

**[05:04:18.040] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004818)  
And ito po ay may mga additional mitigation, redesign, or modification imposed strictly condition.

**[05:04:26.240] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004819)  
So, Your Honor,

**[05:04:27.940] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004820)  
as I said, completed na po ang phase one ng cumulative impact assessment or CIA na ay sinasagawa ng DNR

**[05:04:37.820] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004821)  
sa pamamagitan ng Marine Environmental and Resources Foundation Incorporated.

**[05:04:45.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004822)  
Ang resulta po ng phase one CIA study para sa Manila Bay reclamation project

**[05:04:50.700] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004823)  
ay tinalakay na rin po ng DNR noong December 2025.

**[05:04:55.680] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004824)  
And noong March 2026 po, nagsagawa na rin ng meetings kasama mga proponents ng Manila Bay reclamation projects

**[05:05:07.380] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004825)  
upang maisagawa ang findings at recommendation ng CIA sa Environmental Compliance Certificate or ECC Condition at Environmental Impact.

**[05:05:21.260] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004826)  
Your Honor.

**[05:05:22.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004827)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, for my last question.

**[05:05:25.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004828)  
If the assessment identifies cumulative impact that cannot be adequately mitigated under the existing project configuration,

**[05:05:35.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004829)  
what regulatory options are available to modify, suspend, or discontinue affected projects?

**[05:05:46.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004830)  
Napaka-importante po yun ito.

**[05:05:48.280] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004831)  
Yes po, Your Honor.

**[05:05:51.200] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004832)  
Kung matukoy po sa cumulative impact assessment na may significance,

**[05:05:55.680] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004833)  
can cumulative impact na hindi sapat na ma-address sa kasalukuyang configuration ng isang proyekto,

**[05:06:05.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004834)  
hindi kailangang manatili ang proyekto sa original na design nito.

**[05:06:11.880] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004835)  
Sa ilalim po ng regulatory framework, maaaring i-require ang additional mitigation measures,

**[05:06:21.560] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004836)  
pagbabago sa project configuration o scope of work,

**[05:06:24.960] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004837)  
at amendments sa environmental condition bago payagang magpatuloy.

**[05:06:31.040] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004838)  
Your Honor.

**[05:06:32.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004839)  
Again, Madam Speaker, I'm convinced that PRA, they're doing a good job when it comes to reclaimed area.

**[05:06:40.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004840)  
I hope one day, sana hindi ako mangyayari na lulubog po yung mga nireclaimed natin

**[05:06:47.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004841)  
dahil kawawa naman po ang ating mga kababayan at yung mga nag-invest dito po.

**[05:06:52.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004842)  
Again, thank you very much.

**[05:06:54.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004843)  
Madam Speaker, thank you very much.

**[05:06:56.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004844)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[05:06:57.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004845)  
PRA family.

**[05:06:58.900] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004846)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:07:14.460] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004847)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:07:17.300] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-004848)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Honorable Percy Cendaña, the Akbayan Party-list,

**[05:07:24.240] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-004849)  
to interpolate on the proposed budget of the PRA.

**[05:07:28.440] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-004850)  
Representative Percy Cendaña of Akbayan Party-list is hereby recognized.

**[05:07:33.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004851)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Magandang hapon po sa ating mga kasama sa kapulungan ito

**[05:07:39.020] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004852)  
at sa ating pong very able sponsor of the budget of the PRA, Representative Josefina Taliado.

**[05:07:45.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004853)  
Magandang hapon po sa inyo at sa buong PRA family.

**[05:07:48.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004854)  
Magandang hapon po.

**[05:07:49.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004855)  
Dito pong nakaraang Agosto, naranasan sa Pasay,

**[05:07:53.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004856)  
ang dust cloud.

**[05:07:55.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004857)  
Dahil daw di umano sa kapal na alikabok sa paligid.

**[05:08:00.260] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004858)  
Patay sa ulat, maaring may kinalaman ito sa reclamation projects sa Manila Bay.

**[05:08:06.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004859)  
Ano po ang mitigation mechanisms?

**[05:08:10.460] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004860)  
Meron po bang built-in na mga protection mechanisms dun po sa kontrata

**[05:08:16.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004861)  
ng mga gumagawa ng proyektong ito para po maprotektahan ang ating mga kababayan

**[05:08:20.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004862)  
sa ganito pong mga insidente na talaga,

**[05:08:23.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004863)  
na mga nakakapekto sa mga batang pumapasok sa eskwela,

**[05:08:26.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004864)  
lalo na yung may mga problema sa baga.

**[05:08:28.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004865)  
At ganoon po sa mga kababayan natin na nag-commute papuntang trabaho.

**[05:08:31.920] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004866)  
Yes po.

**[05:08:38.400] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004867)  
Meron pong ah,

**[05:08:40.400] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004868)  
ah, nung last August 26 po,

**[05:08:45.220] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004869)  
ayun, 2026, a heavy dust cloud sweep across Jocno Boulevard and Pasay City, sharply reducing,

**[05:08:50.760] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004870)  
sharply reducing visibility near the Senate of the Philippines.

**[05:08:56.960] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004871)  
Ano po ba ang cause nito?

**[05:09:00.560] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004872)  
Unang-una, sinasabi nila, reclamation sand, strong wind, whip up, loose, dry sand, and pine dirt

**[05:09:09.300] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004873)  
from ongoing land reclamation project along Manila Bay.

**[05:09:14.660] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004874)  
Weather trigger?

**[05:09:18.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004876)  
The Philippine Atmospheric Geographic Center,

**[05:09:20.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004877)  
Tropical and Astronomical Service Administration, Pagas,

**[05:09:25.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004878)  
explained that the sudden haze was driven by a strong gas front from an approaching thunderstorm

**[05:09:35.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004879)  
tied to the southwest monsoon or habagat po.

**[05:09:39.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004880)  
Not a true sandstorm, weather specialists clarified it was a short-lived localized gas.

**[05:09:55.900] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004894)  
rather than a meteorological sandstorm

**[05:09:58.100] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004895)  
because the phenomenon was brief

**[05:10:00.160] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004896)  
and restricted

**[05:10:01.940] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004897)  
to the immediate coastal and

**[05:10:03.920] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004898)  
bay area.

**[05:10:06.360] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004899)  
Environmental and health

**[05:10:08.060] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004900)  
concern, air quality,

**[05:10:09.820] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004901)  
the pine particulate

**[05:10:11.640] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004902)  
matter kick up

**[05:10:13.680] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004903)  
into the air, raise concern about

**[05:10:15.980] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004904)  
localized

**[05:10:17.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004905)  
air pollution.

**[05:10:20.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004906)  
Health risk residents,

**[05:10:22.800] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004907)  
commuter, and workers

**[05:10:24.240] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004908)  
in the area, especially

**[05:10:26.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004909)  
those with asthma or other

**[05:10:28.060] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004910)  
respiratory issues, were

**[05:10:30.160] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004911)  
advised to limit

**[05:10:31.860] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004912)  
exposure and wear

**[05:10:34.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004913)  
masks.

**[05:10:36.780] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004914)  
On August 26,

**[05:10:38.080] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004915)  
Your Honor,

**[05:10:39.580] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004916)  
strong winds

**[05:10:41.980] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004917)  
from an approaching thunderstorm

**[05:10:44.260] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004918)  
in the southwest

**[05:10:45.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004919)  
monsoon, Habagat,

**[05:10:47.840] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004920)  
kick up loose sand and sediment

**[05:10:50.080] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004921)  
from nearby

**[05:10:52.100] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004922)  
Manila Bay, reclamation

**[05:10:54.100] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004923)  
site. What happened?

**[05:10:56.340] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004924)  
Low visibility,

**[05:10:58.860] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004925)  
heavy dust cloud

**[05:11:00.040] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004926)  
sweep across

**[05:11:01.280] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004927)  
Jocno Boulevard in Paisay City

**[05:11:03.760] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004928)  
around 2 p.m. shortly,

**[05:11:06.040] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004929)  
reducing visibility.

**[05:11:09.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004930)  
Madam Speaker,

**[05:11:11.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004931)  
Madam Sponsor,

**[05:11:13.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004932)  
malinaw po kung wala itong

**[05:11:15.660] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004933)  
proyektong ito dyan sa area

**[05:11:17.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004934)  
at nagkaroon po ng ganyang meteorological

**[05:11:19.660] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004935)  
phenomenon. Andala po ng malakas

**[05:11:22.020] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004936)  
sa hangin, hindi po magkakaroon itong

**[05:11:23.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004937)  
dust cloud doon po sa lugar

**[05:11:25.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004938)  
na ito. Inuulit ko po, ang tanong

**[05:11:27.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004939)  
natin ay, ano po ang mitigation

**[05:11:30.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004940)  
mechanisms,

**[05:11:33.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004941)  
processes na

**[05:11:34.040] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004942)  
kinakailang in place para po hindi

**[05:11:35.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004943)  
na muling maulit yung ganito

**[05:11:37.960] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004944)  
pong pangyayari. Kasi po

**[05:11:40.060] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004945)  
habang nagaganap ang maraming mga

**[05:11:41.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004946)  
proyekto at mayroon pa rin po

**[05:11:43.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004947)  
mga ganyang meteorological

**[05:11:45.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004948)  
incidences, maaari

**[05:11:47.920] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004949)  
pa rin pong paulit-ulit na

**[05:11:49.700] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004950)  
mangyari ito. So doon po ba sa ating

**[05:11:51.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004951)  
mga kontrata, sa mga gumagawa,

**[05:11:53.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004952)  
mga proyektong ito, doon po sa permiso

**[05:11:55.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004953)  
na binigay ninyo, mayroon po ba

**[05:11:57.560] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004954)  
naka-built-in na protection mechanisms?

**[05:12:04.040] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004955)  
Halimbawa po, mayroon po ba

**[05:12:06.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004956)  
dapat weather conditions para

**[05:12:07.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004957)  
i-allow ang

**[05:12:09.380] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004958)  
pagtutuloy ng construction o

**[05:12:11.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004959)  
pagpigil ng operations

**[05:12:13.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004960)  
para po hindi magkaroon ng ganitong malalang

**[05:12:15.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004961)  
dust cloud doon sa area na yan?

**[05:12:19.420] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004962)  
Your Honor,

**[05:12:21.840] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004963)  
nag-recommend po tayo,

**[05:12:23.880] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004964)  
ito yung continuous

**[05:12:25.700] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004965)  
spraying, water trucks, and

**[05:12:27.760] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004966)  
water cannons in place.

**[05:12:30.260] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004967)  
Dust screens,

**[05:12:31.960] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004968)  
physical barrier used to block

**[05:12:33.680] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004969)  
dust, dirt, and debris from

**[05:12:35.760] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004970)  
spreading

**[05:12:37.100] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004971)  
outside a work area.

**[05:12:40.080] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004972)  
And gusto ko lamang pong

**[05:12:41.500] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004973)  
idagdag na ang

**[05:12:43.420] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004974)  
reclamation at construction

**[05:12:45.640] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004975)  
activities ay maaaring makalikha

**[05:12:47.940] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004976)  
ng localized dust,

**[05:12:50.120] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004977)  
lalo na sa dry earth

**[05:12:51.400] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004978)  
movement, compact,

**[05:12:53.880] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004979)  
compaction, at exposed

**[05:12:55.820] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004980)  
field areas. Pero ito po

**[05:12:58.160] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004981)  
ay extremely

**[05:12:59.020] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004982)  
localized at

**[05:13:01.040] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004983)  
at during

**[05:13:03.760] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004984)  
construction lang po ito nangyayari.

**[05:13:06.160] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-004985)  
Your Honor.

**[05:13:07.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004986)  
Madam Speaker, Your Honor, alam po

**[05:13:09.920] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004987)  
natin, this could be extremely localized

**[05:13:12.260] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004988)  
pero nangyari po ito

**[05:13:13.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004989)  
at naapektuhan po ang ating mga kababayan

**[05:13:15.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004990)  
doon sa area. Nabanggit nyo po,

**[05:13:17.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004991)  
naglagay tayo ng mga mitigation at protection

**[05:13:20.100] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004992)  
mechanisms. Particular

**[05:13:21.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004993)  
dyan, yung pag-spray ng tubig,

**[05:13:23.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004994)  
naglagay ng barriers. Kumusta po

**[05:13:25.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004995)  
ang compliance nung pong mga gumagawa

**[05:13:27.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004996)  
ng proyekto? Maari po bang

**[05:13:29.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004997)  
banggiti natin kung ano ang level of compliance

**[05:13:31.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004998)  
at gano'n po kadalas ang

**[05:13:33.500] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-004999)  
inspection na ginagawa ng PRA?

**[05:13:37.820] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005000)  
Actually po, Your Honor,

**[05:13:39.920] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005001)  
ang DNR po ang nag-inspect

**[05:13:42.140] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005002)  
sa

**[05:13:42.520] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005003)  
construction site.

**[05:13:45.980] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005004)  
Your Honor.

**[05:13:47.740] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005005)  
Or

**[05:13:48.060] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005006)  
EEC

**[05:13:52.060] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005007)  
required by DNR,

**[05:13:53.880] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005008)  
DNR, EMB po, Your Honor.

**[05:13:56.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005009)  
Alam po ba natin kung ano

**[05:13:57.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005010)  
ang frequency ng kanilang inspection?

**[05:14:00.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005011)  
I'm sure dapat po may sinasabit ding report

**[05:14:02.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005012)  
sa ating ahensya, ang mga ahensya

**[05:14:03.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005013)  
ang gumagawa nito as PRA.

**[05:14:07.920] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005014)  
The water spray

**[05:14:09.780] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005015)  
today po yun.

**[05:14:11.880] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005016)  
And then we have a regular

**[05:14:13.140] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005017)  
multi-part type monitoring

**[05:14:15.040] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005018)  
ng DNR tsaka other states.

**[05:14:18.100] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005019)  
Your Honor,

**[05:14:19.840] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005020)  
every day po, ini-inspect

**[05:14:23.880] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005021)  
ang construction site,

**[05:14:25.800] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005022)  
Your Honor.

**[05:14:29.100] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005023)  
Can we get the assurance of the PRA

**[05:14:31.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005024)  
na kung every day po ini-inspect at sana

**[05:14:33.720] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005025)  
nakaka-comply yung mga

**[05:14:35.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005026)  
gumagawa ng proyektong ito ay hindi na po

**[05:14:37.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005027)  
mauulit yung ganitong klase

**[05:14:39.560] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005028)  
ng dust cloud, lalo na po

**[05:14:41.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005029)  
sa areas na marami tayong

**[05:14:43.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005030)  
mga kababayan ang dumadaan

**[05:14:45.340] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005031)  
o kaya naman po nagtatrabaho

**[05:14:47.080] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005032)  
o naninirahan sa mga lugar na iyon?

**[05:14:50.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005033)  
Yes po, Your Honor.

**[05:14:51.880] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005034)  
Rest assured po na hindi

**[05:14:53.800] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005035)  
na mauulit yung ganong mga

**[05:14:55.400] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005036)  
pangyayari.

**[05:14:57.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005037)  
Marami pong salamat Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[05:15:00.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005038)  
Balikan ko lang po yung nabanggit kanina na pronouncement ng Pangulong Marcos noong 2023

**[05:15:05.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005039)  
regarding the suspension of reclamation projects in the Manila Bay.

**[05:15:11.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005040)  
Earlier, binanggit po ninyo, the suspension has been lifted. For the record po, tama po ba?

**[05:15:17.120] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005041)  
Yes po. Apat po yung na-lifted. Meron pa po tayong sampung suspended.

**[05:15:24.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005042)  
So, apat po ang lifted. Mayroon pang sampo na suspended pa.

**[05:15:31.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005043)  
So, ano po ang mangyayari dito po sa sampung projects na suspended pa?

**[05:15:36.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005044)  
Hanggat hindi po sila nakakapagpasa ng requirements na nire-require ng DNR,

**[05:15:43.540] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005045)  
hindi po sila mabibigyan, hindi po malilip yung kanilang suspension.

**[05:15:49.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005046)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, maliban po sa nabanggit ninyo na isang requirement,

**[05:15:54.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005047)  
para matanggal ang kanilang suspension o ma-lift ang suspension nila ay yung submission

**[05:15:59.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005048)  
ng requirements mula sa DNR. Ano pa po yung dahilan? Bakit suspended ang sampung projects na ito?

**[05:16:11.120] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005049)  
Yung result po kasi ng cumulative impact ay hindi pa po lumalabas.

**[05:16:17.200] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005050)  
Kaya po, hindi pa nalilip yung kanilang suspension, Your Honor.

**[05:16:22.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005051)  
Doon naman po. Maraming salamat, Madam Sponsor.

**[05:16:24.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005052)  
Madam Speaker, doon naman po sa apat na na-lift yung suspension, maaari po bang pangalanan natin?

**[05:16:31.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005053)  
Ano-ano itong apat na proyektong ito? At sino po ang nag-apply ng permiso?

**[05:16:46.960] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005054)  
Your Honor, ang lifted na po ang suspension ay ang Manila Waterfront City.

**[05:16:54.620] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005055)  
Pasay SM Reclamation Project, Pasay Harbor City, at ang Bacoor City na 90 hectares inner island.

**[05:17:08.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005056)  
Pwede rin po bang pangalanan, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, kung sino ang proponent?

**[05:17:12.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005057)  
Yung mga kumpanya behind. Kasi po, alam ko, conglomerate yung ilan dito sa apat na proyektong ito.

**[05:17:54.620] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005067)  
Your Honor, ang may-ari po ng Manila Waterfront City ay ang Manila Waterfront Corporation.

**[05:18:14.640] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005068)  
Ito naman pong PASAIS SM ay SM Corporation po.

**[05:18:21.440] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005069)  
And ang PASAIS Harbor City po, ang nagmamay-ari po ay ang PASAIS City Local Government, PASAIS Harbor City Corp.

**[05:18:37.060] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005070)  
And yung pong Bacoor City na 90 hectares ay pag-aari po ng Probel and Robinson, Your Honor.

**[05:18:46.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005071)  
Yung pong sa huli, yung sa Bacoor po, sino po muli?

**[05:18:51.440] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005072)  
Probel and Robinson.

**[05:18:54.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005073)  
Maraming salamat. Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[05:18:59.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005074)  
Doon naman po sa mga suspended na mga permits, ano po ang ginagawa ng PRA dito sa sampu na ito?

**[05:19:09.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005075)  
Meron po ba tayong follow-through o hinaya-alaman po natin silang makakompleto ng kanilang mga requirements?

**[05:19:16.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005076)  
At ano po yung timeline natin para sa sampu ito?

**[05:19:21.440] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005077)  
About po sa mga suspended natin, depende po yun kung kailan nila matatapos yung ma-comply yung mga requirements na kailangan ma-submit po nila.

**[05:19:43.120] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005078)  
So, wala po talaga siyang timeline.

**[05:19:47.560] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005079)  
Depende po yun kung mapapaaga nila na makapag-aaral.

**[05:19:51.440] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005080)  
Makakomply sila. Nasa sa kanila po yun, Your Honor.

**[05:19:55.500] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005081)  
Hindi po ba napapaso, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, yung mga ganitong application kung sakali pong hindi nakakakomply fully yung applicant?

**[05:20:06.440] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005082)  
Your Honor, depende po yun sa ECC kung papayagan nilang ma-extend.

**[05:20:13.560] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005083)  
So, halimbawa po itong sampu na ito, hanggang kailan po natin naasahan na po pwede silang makakomply doon sa requirement?

**[05:20:21.440] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005084)  
Ang live po ng ECC ay five years. So, after five years po at hindi pa sila nakapag-comply, pwede po silang i-apply for extension, Your Honor.

**[05:20:42.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005085)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

**[05:20:45.560] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005086)  
Napakahalaga po kasi itong suspension na binanggit originally ng Presidente, which was eventually lifted.

**[05:20:51.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005087)  
Kasi meron ding apat na malalaking kumpanya na natanggalan din ng suspension at nag-proceed yung kanilang mga proyekto.

**[05:20:59.240] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005088)  
At sa panahon po ngayon na tumitingin talaga ang pagbaha sa Metro Manila at karating pong mga probinsya natin,

**[05:21:05.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005089)  
talaga pong isa sa tinitingnan ng ating mga kababayan na maaaring dahilan kung bakit ang baha ay hindi ganun kabilis mawala tulad dati na pagbumaha after a few hours

**[05:21:15.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005090)  
or matagal na yung a few days ay bababa dahil po sa nangyayari yung mga developments na ito.

**[05:21:21.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005091)  
Ang tanong po natin ay, how can dredging and reclamation affect the worsening of flooding episodes in the country, particularly in NCR and our nearby provinces?

**[05:21:51.440] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005092)  
Kaya nga po, nire-require namin na subject po ay for hydrodynamic modeling, flooding studies, and hydraulic studies.

**[05:22:06.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005093)  
So ito pong studies na ito, sino po ang nagko-commission?

**[05:22:13.240] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005094)  
UP po, Your Honor.

**[05:22:15.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005095)  
Sino po ang nagko-commission sa UP?

**[05:22:20.320] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005096)  
Yung proponent po.

**[05:22:21.440] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005097)  
Your Honor.

**[05:22:23.460] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005098)  
Sige po, mukhang mahalaga po na sa sitwasyon po natin ngayon, hindi dapat sapat na mayroon lamang study na kinomission yung proponent.

**[05:22:31.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005099)  
The PRA should exercise due diligence in ensuring na ito po ay hindi makaka-apekto sa pagpapalala lalo ng baha sa Metro Manila at mga karating na po.

**[05:22:42.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005100)  
Yung sumunod ko naman po ang tanong, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker, ay paano po ang coastal defense ng mga reclaimed areas?

**[05:22:51.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005101)  
Kasi po sila na ngayon yung bago na nasa coast natin. So ano po ang coastal defense mechanisms na mayroon, kung mayroon man, itong mga proyektong ito?

**[05:23:04.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005102)  
Kasi baka po sa dulo, sila naman yung susunod na maging problema natin pagdating ng mga storm surge mula po sa area na yan.

**[05:23:25.000] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005111)  
Ah dati po kasi ang seawall natin ay 3 meters lang. So ngayon po, ginawa na po natin siyang 7 meters.

**[05:23:32.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005112)  
So sino po ang magkoconstruct ng seawall dito po sa mga reclaimed areas na ito? Sino po ang gagastos?

**[05:23:41.900] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005113)  
Yung proponent na po, kasi po part po ito ng project.

**[05:23:45.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005114)  
Kumusta po yung compliance nila dito po sa provision na ito ng kontrata?

**[05:23:49.340] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005115)  
Um, ongoing po, Your Honor.

**[05:23:56.160] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005116)  
And well, monitored po yun, Your Honor.

**[05:24:00.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005117)  
Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, may request the PRA to submit a report on the compliance on the coastal defense measures that are installed or are being implemented by the proponents of the project.

**[05:24:14.420] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005118)  
Yes, Your Honor.

**[05:24:15.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005119)  
Thank you very much, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[05:24:17.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005120)  
I cannot overemphasize yung fear ng mga kababayan natin sa lumalalang pagbaha na naranasan natin ngayon.

**[05:24:24.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005121)  
Maaring patikim pa lang ito nangyayari sa atin at alam natin na isa sa tinitindahan ng ating mga kababayan ay mga pagkarami-raming reclamation projects na nangyayari sa Manila Bay.

**[05:24:34.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005122)  
Kailangan natin suriin ang kaugnayan ng mga reclamation projects sa lumalalang pagbaha sa Metro Manila at mga karating na probinsya.

**[05:24:42.400] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005123)  
We need a comprehensive approach to flood mitigation and management.

**[05:24:45.720] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005124)  
Hindi dapat inaaprobahan ng maramigyan.

**[05:24:47.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005125)  
Sa mga reclamation projects na walang maayos na impact assessment sa flooding sa mga komunidad at walang proper drainage.

**[05:24:54.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005126)  
Nakababahala na ang total approved reclamation projects sa Manila Bay, 13 in total ay around 5,000 hectares or about 8% of the total land area of the National Capital Region.

**[05:25:05.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005127)  
Pero hanggang sa ngayon, wala tayong nakikita maayos na integration program para ting sa flood management between these projects and the LGUs around the Manila Bay.

**[05:25:17.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005128)  
Madam Speaker, gusto po natin magpasalamat sa ating butihing sponsor at sana po ay makapag-comply ang PRA doon po sa nire-request natin ng mga dokumento.

**[05:25:27.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005129)  
Marami pong salamat.

**[05:25:28.780] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005130)  
Marami salamat po, Your Honor.

**[05:25:31.280] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005131)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:25:37.940] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005132)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Sarah Jane Elago to interpolate the sponsor.

**[05:25:42.940] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005133)  
Representative Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party List is hereby recognized.

**[05:25:47.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005134)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Sundan ko lang po yung nabuksan na usapin ng ating kasamahan tungkol sa reclamation sa Manila Bay.

**[05:26:01.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005135)  
Ito po ay tungkol doon sa na-aprobahan na na dalawang reclamation projects sa Pasay City.

**[05:26:08.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005136)  
Sang-ayon sa statement ng PRA noong November 24, 2023, pagkatapos ng rigorous evaluation,

**[05:26:17.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005137)  
nakasama ang DENR, ang mga proyektong ito ay nag-adhere na sa mga kondisyon na sinet para sa Environmental Compliance Certificate at Area Clearance.

**[05:26:27.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005138)  
Ang dalawang proyektong ito ay ang 265-hectare Pasay Harbor City Reclamation Project ng Pasay Harbor City Corporation

**[05:26:35.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005139)  
at ang 360-hectare Pasay Reclamation Project ng SM Prime Holdings.

**[05:26:43.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005140)  
Buong 5 billion peso budget ng PRA para sa 2027 ay nakalaan.

**[05:26:47.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005141)  
Para sa MOOE ng Philippine International Exhibition Center na matatagpuan sa 265-hectare na Pasay Harbor City.

**[05:26:56.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005142)  
Ang katanungan ko po, Madam Speaker, sa kabila po ng naisagawang cumulative impact assessment sa Manila Bay reclamation

**[05:27:04.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005143)  
na mayroong matinding epekto sa kabuhayan ng mga manging isda, water circulation, traffic management at pagbaha,

**[05:27:13.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005144)  
bakit po ba ipinagpapatuloy pa rin ng PRA ang mga proyektong ito?

**[05:27:24.860] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005146)  
Your Honor, yung mga nabanggit po na pinayagan magpatuloy matapos ang compliance review ay ang 265-hectare Pasay City Harbor and Development Project

**[05:27:41.720] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005147)  
ay pinayagang mag-resume noong 2023 matapos ang DNR compliance review.

**[05:27:47.860] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005148)  
Na nag-kumpirma ng kanilang compliance sa kanilang Environmental Compliance Certificates or ECCs, area clearance at mga requirements ng PRA.

**[05:28:00.300] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005149)  
Gayunman, ang kanilang pagpapatuloy ay mananatiling subject sa continuing monitoring at sa risulta ng cumulative impact assessment ng DNR.

**[05:28:12.740] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005150)  
And mahalaga pong banggitin na sa Pasay 360, binago mismo ang configuration ng

**[05:28:17.860] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005151)  
reclamation upang magkaroon ng mas malawak na water channel sa pagitan ng mainland at reclaim island. Ang unang redesign po ay naglaan ng 300-meter channel at pagkatapos ay pinalawak

**[05:28:37.980] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005152)  
patungo humigit-kumulang 476 meters bilang bahagi ng mga hakbang upang tugunan ang hydrodynamic at flooding

**[05:28:47.860] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005153)  
concerns. Sa katunayan po, may bahagi ng dating reclaim na kinakailangang alisin o i-rehandle upang makagawa ng mas malawak na channel.

**[05:29:01.240] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005154)  
Ito nga po ay yung sa area sa tapat ng dating Sofitel Hotel. Your Honor.

**[05:29:10.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005155)  
Maraming salamat Madam Speaker. Nabanggit nga ako na kung sa papel naman pagdating sa mga requirements,

**[05:29:15.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005156)  
na punan ito, na isumiti ito, na aprobahan. Ngunit ang nakita rin po natin sa deliberasyon dito sa plenaryo, halimbawa,

**[05:29:24.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005157)  
at dun sa mga naging budget briefings sa lahat po ng mga issues na may kinalaman sa Manila Bay Clean Up, sa Manila Bay Reclamation,

**[05:29:33.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005158)  
at sa panawagan natin ng Manila Bay Rehabilitation, ay wala pong particular na programa na sapat para matugunan yung impact

**[05:29:44.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005159)  
sa ating mga mangingisipan.

**[05:29:45.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005160)  
Sa lahat po ng mga nakasalalay, ang kanilang kabuhayan, hindi lang po sa particular area na ito, pero dun sa buong Manila Bay mismo, marami na pong mga pag-aaral ang tungkol sa

**[05:30:00.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005161)  
Matindi na epekto nito sa ating mga fisherfolk, asang-ayon po sa pamalakaya na wala na po ang kanilang over 80% ng kanilang daily income dahil daw po sa mga reclamation projects na nasira na ang mga major fishing grounds, ang fish habitats, kabilang na ang mangroves, coral areas at seagrasses.

**[05:30:26.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005162)  
Meron din pong statement ang Oceana na grupo tungkol sa matagal ng nakakabahala ng mga reclamation projects na nakakaabala sa natural na daloy ng tubig dahil hinaharangan ng mga ito ang daluya ng tubig na dapat sana ay umaagos patungo sa dagat.

**[05:30:52.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005163)  
Kaya naman dahil dyan, Madam Speaker, hamon po ito sa ating kapulungan.

**[05:30:56.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005164)  
Kung ganitong may mga issue na may kinalaman sa kalagayan ng ating mga magsasaka, may ganitong mga concerns na pinapahatid ang ating civil society, nararapat lamang nadingginan natin yung iba't ibang panukalang resolusyon dito sa House of Representatives.

**[05:31:15.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005165)  
Isa na dyan ang resolusyon para maimbestigahan ang mga reclamation projects na ito.

**[05:31:23.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005166)  
Meron din panukalang batas.

**[05:31:25.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005167)  
Ang House Bill No. 6270 na nag-aasam, nangangarap, nananawagan na maideklara na ang Manila Bay bilang reclamation free zone.

**[05:31:38.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005168)  
Layunin din po nito na matiyak na magiging mahigpit yung ating mga pamantayan at mapreserba din ang ating mga yamang dagat sa buong bansa.

**[05:31:49.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005169)  
Yun lamang sa ngayon, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished guests.

**[05:31:52.680] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005170)  
Maraming salamat po, Your Honor.

**[05:31:55.220] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005171)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:31:58.180] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005172)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Edgar Erice to interpellate the sponsor.

**[05:32:04.700] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005173)  
Representative Edgar Erice from Caloocan is hereby recognized.

**[05:32:08.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-005174)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you, our Majority Leader and our distinguished sponsor.

**[05:32:15.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-005175)  
Mayroon lang po akong maikling-maikling mga katanungan. Una po, nag-issue na po ba ng may na-issuehan na po ba ang PRA?

**[05:32:25.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-005176)  
Anumang permit, approval, clearance or authority for reclamation activities in Laguna de Bay?

**[05:32:34.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-005177)  
If so, which projects and what is the current status of each project?

**[05:32:38.700] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005178)  
Your Honor, wala po.

**[05:32:40.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-005179)  
Zero po. Wala po.

**[05:32:42.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-005180)  
Yes po.

**[05:32:44.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-005181)  
Is PRA issued any permit, approval, clearance or other authority for reclamation activities in the Pasig River?

**[05:32:53.640] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005182)  
Your Honor, wala din po.

**[05:32:55.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-005183)  
Wala rin po.

**[05:32:56.560] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005184)  
Yes po.

**[05:32:57.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-005185)  
And lastly, dito po sa Manila Bay, marami po mga reclamation projects. Meron na po bang environmental impact assessment na pinagsama-sama para po dito sa mga proyekto?

**[05:33:15.880] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005186)  
Yes po, meron po, Your Honor.

**[05:33:18.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-005187)  
Can we just, kung pwede po, mabigyan lang kami ng kopya. Hindi naman po, nagmamadali, anytime na convenience.

**[05:33:28.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005188)  
Yes po, makakaasa po kayo, bibigyan namin kayo ng kopya bago po kami umalis.

**[05:33:34.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-005189)  
Salamat po, yun lang po.

**[05:33:35.640] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005190)  
Maraming salamat po, Your Honor.

**[05:33:39.640] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005191)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:33:45.020] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005192)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Robert Nazal.

**[05:33:48.340] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005193)  
From the BH Party-list to interpellate the sponsor.

**[05:33:51.080] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005194)  
Representative Robert Nazal is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[05:34:01.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005195)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[05:34:05.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005196)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues, to the PRA.

**[05:34:10.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005197)  
PRA reported 5 billion in net income in 2025.

**[05:34:15.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005198)  
And a total assets of almost 210 billion.

**[05:34:20.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005199)  
For all ongoing and approved reclamation projects,

**[05:34:25.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005200)  
magkano po ang total projected value that will accrue to government,

**[05:34:31.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005201)  
magkano ang projected actual cash revenues of PRA,

**[05:34:35.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005202)  
and magkano ang expected remittances to the National Treasury.

**[05:34:39.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005203)  
And more importantly, Madam Sponsor,

**[05:34:45.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005204)  
can PRA give us a project-by-project timeline,

**[05:34:50.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005205)  
2027, 2028, 2029, onward,

**[05:34:53.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005206)  
showing when each project is expected to generate revenues for PRA and government?

**[05:35:13.900] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005207)  
Your Honor,

**[05:35:15.200] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005208)  
for the past 5 years po,

**[05:35:18.580] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005209)  
ang na-remit na po ng PRA na dividends ay

**[05:35:23.820] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005210)  
6

**[05:35:25.420] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005211)  
6 billion 349

**[05:35:37.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005212)  
6 billion, 349,

**[05:35:43.300] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005213)  
896.25 po.

**[05:35:46.100] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005217)  
And sa taxes po, 3,569,376,346.72.

**[05:35:54.680] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005218)  
So, ang total po na remittance na nanggaling sa PRA ay nagkakahalaga na po ng 9.9 billion, Your Honor.

**[05:36:11.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005219)  
Magkano po yung actual cash revenues of PRA?

**[05:36:14.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005220)  
Okay.

**[05:36:15.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005221)  
And magkano yung projected?

**[05:36:39.840] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005222)  
Ang projected income statement po natin for 2026 is,

**[05:36:45.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005223)  
2 billion.

**[05:36:47.120] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005224)  
And for 2027 po,

**[05:36:51.940] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005225)  
projected income statement is

**[05:36:54.300] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005226)  
1.9 billion.

**[05:37:00.860] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005227)  
And ang atin naman pong total operating expenses

**[05:37:06.260] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005228)  
ay 1.9 billion sa 2026.

**[05:37:11.000] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005229)  
Sa 2027 po, 1.8 billion.

**[05:37:17.480] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005237)  
Your Honor?

**[05:37:18.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005238)  
Ano po ang projects that will start generating income?

**[05:37:23.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005239)  
Ano po ba yung,

**[05:37:25.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005240)  
saan po tayo,

**[05:37:26.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005241)  
what are we expecting in terms of revenues for

**[05:37:28.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005242)  
27, 28, and 29?

**[05:37:31.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005243)  
Meron po bang mga matatapos na?

**[05:37:36.100] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005244)  
Your Honor,

**[05:37:37.520] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005245)  
ang revenue po natin ay nanggagaling sa mga service income

**[05:37:42.980] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005246)  
ng,

**[05:37:43.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005247)  
ng,

**[05:37:43.440] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005248)  
ng,

**[05:37:45.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005249)  
reclamation, such as

**[05:37:47.680] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005250)  
the regulatory

**[05:37:49.820] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005251)  
fee, supervision fee,

**[05:37:51.880] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005252)  
fines and penalties,

**[05:37:53.720] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005253)  
and extraction fees, Your Honor.

**[05:37:56.740] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005254)  
And sa business

**[05:37:57.660] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005255)  
income naman po,

**[05:37:59.240] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005256)  
recurring income, such as

**[05:38:01.840] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005257)  
lease of PRA properties,

**[05:38:04.580] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005258)  
share in the toll

**[05:38:05.640] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005259)  
revenue in the Manila

**[05:38:07.440] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005260)  
Cavite Toll

**[05:38:09.040] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005261)  
Expressway, and

**[05:38:11.700] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005262)  
sale of land, Your Honor.

**[05:38:13.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005263)  
Your Honor. Madam

**[05:38:15.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005264)  
Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

**[05:38:17.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005265)  
for projects that have been delayed po,

**[05:38:19.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005266)  
suspended, or

**[05:38:21.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005267)  
subjected to policy review,

**[05:38:24.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005268)  
kinukompute po ba ng PRA

**[05:38:25.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005269)  
ang foregone revenue?

**[05:38:27.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005270)  
Pag-delayed,

**[05:38:29.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005271)  
magkano po yung government revenue na

**[05:38:31.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005272)  
nadidelay for every year

**[05:38:33.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005273)  
na ang bawat proyekto po

**[05:38:35.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005274)  
ay hindi

**[05:38:36.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005275)  
gumagalaw?

**[05:38:43.660] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005276)  
Your Honor,

**[05:38:58.640] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005277)  
wala pong

**[05:38:59.540] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005278)  
nawawalang

**[05:39:01.780] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005279)  
revenue sa PRA.

**[05:39:05.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005280)  
Now what I'm

**[05:39:05.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005281)  
citing, Madam

**[05:39:07.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005282)  
Sponsor, to the

**[05:39:09.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005283)  
PRA. Halimbawa po, merong tayong

**[05:39:11.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005284)  
mga revenue,

**[05:39:13.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005285)  
reclamation projects. Tapos

**[05:39:15.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005286)  
by policy, or for whatever

**[05:39:17.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005287)  
reason, dahil nagbabago-bago po yung

**[05:39:19.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005288)  
policy ng gobyerno,

**[05:39:21.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005289)  
na-suspend siya, or hindi na tuloy.

**[05:39:24.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005290)  
Kinukompute po ba

**[05:39:25.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005291)  
natin yung foregone revenue?

**[05:39:28.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005292)  
Para alam po ng

**[05:39:29.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005293)  
gobyerno natin, na kung

**[05:39:31.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005294)  
hindi po tayo consistent, pagdating

**[05:39:33.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005295)  
sa pulisiya, meron tayong mga

**[05:39:35.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005296)  
investors na pumapasok,

**[05:39:37.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005297)  
at dahil sa policy, may nagbago,

**[05:39:41.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005298)  
merong hindi

**[05:39:41.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005299)  
na tuloy na project,

**[05:39:43.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005300)  
nari-realize po ba

**[05:39:46.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005301)  
ng ating gobyerno na sa

**[05:39:47.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005302)  
pabago-bagong policy, ay

**[05:39:50.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005303)  
meron pong foregone revenue?

**[05:39:57.740] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005304)  
Your Honor,

**[05:39:59.020] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005305)  
ang nawawala lang po sa atin

**[05:40:00.480] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005306)  
ay yung

**[05:40:00.960] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005307)  
51% of land

**[05:40:04.540] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005308)  
share

**[05:40:06.260] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005309)  
sa gobyerno po.

**[05:40:09.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005310)  
Yes. Let's say,

**[05:40:11.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005311)  
meron kang reclamation

**[05:40:12.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005312)  
na,

**[05:40:13.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005313)  
na-approve po ninyo,

**[05:40:15.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005314)  
let's say,

**[05:40:17.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005315)  
5 years ago or 6 years ago.

**[05:40:19.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005316)  
Ngayon, nung nag-uumpisa na siya,

**[05:40:21.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005317)  
meron pong dinagdag na

**[05:40:23.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005318)  
pulisiya, halimbawa yung DNR

**[05:40:25.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005319)  
or whatever, investyo ng Senado,

**[05:40:27.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005320)  
hindi na tuloy yung

**[05:40:29.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005321)  
proyekto. So, ang

**[05:40:31.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005322)  
foregone revenue po natin dyan, is not

**[05:40:33.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005323)  
just the sale of land, diba?

**[05:40:35.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005324)  
Siyempre, may asset value appreciation

**[05:40:37.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005325)  
yan, meron po yan na

**[05:40:39.340] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005326)  
taxes,

**[05:40:41.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005327)  
yung mga developers na papasok, na bibili

**[05:40:43.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005328)  
doon, magtatayo ng development,

**[05:40:45.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005329)  
tapos lahat po yun

**[05:40:47.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005330)  
nawala. Ang tinatanong ko po is,

**[05:40:49.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005331)  
are we computing the foregone revenue?

**[05:40:51.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005332)  
Kasi para ho, alam rin

**[05:40:53.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005333)  
natin na ito ang nasasayang

**[05:40:55.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005334)  
pagka pabago-bago tayo.

**[05:40:57.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005335)  
One agency or one Senate

**[05:40:59.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005336)  
investigation can

**[05:41:00.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005337)  
affect yung mga

**[05:41:03.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005338)  
investments.

**[05:41:06.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005339)  
Your Honor,

**[05:41:07.560] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005340)  
actually po, malaki po

**[05:41:09.000] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005341)  
ang nawawala sa

**[05:41:10.120] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005342)  
PRA, pero po,

**[05:41:13.200] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005343)  
hindi pa po namin na kukompute

**[05:41:15.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005344)  
kung magkano po. Pwede pong,

**[05:41:17.180] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005345)  
ibibigay na lang po namin sa inyo, kung sakali,

**[05:41:19.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005346)  
Your Honor.

**[05:41:21.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005347)  
Baka nga po, it's time na,

**[05:41:23.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005348)  
diba, we should be monitoring also those things

**[05:41:25.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005349)  
kasi, sayang po yan eh.

**[05:41:28.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005350)  
Sayang po yan,

**[05:41:29.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005351)  
we have the

**[05:41:31.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005352)  
opportunity.

**[05:41:33.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005353)  
Ang PRA po, I'm sure you're doing

**[05:41:35.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005354)  
roadshows, we offer

**[05:41:37.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005355)  
these to investors, and then the

**[05:41:39.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005356)  
investor will come in, tapos

**[05:41:41.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005357)  
sa, dahil ho sa pabago,

**[05:41:43.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005358)  
bagong pulisiya, hindi ba,

**[05:41:45.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005359)  
eh, hindi ba tutuloy,

**[05:41:47.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005360)  
nag-invest na sila,

**[05:41:49.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005361)  
kasi meron ako mga

**[05:41:51.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005362)  
nakakausap, galing Singapore, nag-invest,

**[05:41:53.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005363)  
nagpasok ng mga

**[05:41:54.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005364)  
vessels, tapos, dahil

**[05:41:57.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005365)  
sa, hindi ko alam,

**[05:41:59.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005366)  
dahil sa politika, or dahil sa problema

**[05:42:01.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005367)  
ng, halimbawa,

**[05:42:03.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005368)  
magkaaway dun sa isang lugar yung

**[05:42:04.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005369)  
congressman, tsaka yung

**[05:42:06.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005370)  
LGU, eh,

**[05:42:09.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005371)  
nagkakaroon na ng problema, hindi natutuloy yung

**[05:42:11.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005372)  
project. So, ang nais ko lang,

**[05:42:13.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005373)  
po, eh, sana, meron tayong

**[05:42:15.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005374)  
definite number na napapakita

**[05:42:17.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005375)  
na ito po ang nangyayari.

**[05:42:19.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005376)  
That's why the national government

**[05:42:20.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005377)  
should intervene. And maybe it's about

**[05:42:23.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005378)  
time that congress also makes

**[05:42:25.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005379)  
or creates a law na dapat

**[05:42:27.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005380)  
pag may national projects of

**[05:42:29.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005381)  
of, ah, significant importance,

**[05:42:31.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005382)  
dapat po, hindi na po natin,

**[05:42:33.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005383)  
hindi na po siya nagagalaw.

**[05:42:35.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005384)  
Hindi po pwedeng galawin ng,

**[05:42:37.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005385)  
ah, hindi po pwedeng baguhin ng local

**[05:42:39.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005386)  
government. Ah, yan lang po ang

**[05:42:41.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005387)  
sinasabi ko, para nakikita po natin kung ano'y,

**[05:42:43.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005388)  
kung ano'y nawawala.

**[05:42:44.900] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005389)  
Yes, po, your honor na. Intindihan

**[05:42:47.080] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005390)  
po namin yung, ah,

**[05:42:48.920] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005391)  
pinapoint mo.

**[05:42:54.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005392)  
So, my next question, ah,

**[05:42:56.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005393)  
Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

**[05:43:00.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005394)  
currently,

**[05:43:01.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005395)  
does PRA proactively brief

**[05:43:03.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005396)  
the relevant members and committees of both

**[05:43:05.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005397)  
the House and Senate on major reclamation

**[05:43:07.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005398)  
projects? The investment

**[05:43:09.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005399)  
involved projected government

**[05:43:11.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005400)  
revenues, timeline safeguards,

**[05:43:13.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005401)  
and government approvals already

**[05:43:15.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005402)  
obtained. Kaya ako po tinatanong yan,

**[05:43:18.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005403)  
I want to be clear, I'm not

**[05:43:19.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005404)  
suggesting that congress should become

**[05:43:21.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005405)  
another approving body.

**[05:43:23.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005406)  
Ayaw natin dagdagan ng proseso

**[05:43:25.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005407)  
or pahabain pa ang approvals.

**[05:43:27.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005408)  
But congress makes the

**[05:43:29.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005409)  
laws. And eventually, here's

**[05:43:31.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005410)  
many of these policy issues.

**[05:43:33.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005411)  
Wouldn't it be better

**[05:43:34.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005412)  
for PRA to brief congress early

**[05:43:37.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005413)  
so legislators understand

**[05:43:39.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005414)  
the project safeguards

**[05:43:41.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005415)  
and economic implications

**[05:43:43.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005416)  
rather than explaining everything

**[05:43:44.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005417)  
only when a project is already underway

**[05:43:46.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005418)  
tapos biglahong magkakaroon ng

**[05:43:48.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005419)  
Senate or Congressional investigation

**[05:43:51.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005420)  
para pigilan dahil hindi nila naiintindihan?

**[05:43:54.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005421)  
So,

**[05:43:55.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005422)  
can PRA

**[05:43:56.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005423)  
institutionalize

**[05:43:58.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005424)  
briefings to the relevant committees

**[05:44:01.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005425)  
of both houses, not for

**[05:44:02.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005426)  
approval, but for information,

**[05:44:05.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005427)  
transparency, and

**[05:44:07.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005428)  
early identification of

**[05:44:09.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005429)  
any policy or legislative

**[05:44:11.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005430)  
issue that Congress itself,

**[05:44:13.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005431)  
may need to address?

**[05:44:15.740] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005432)  
Yes po, Your Honor.

**[05:44:17.760] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005433)  
Nakahanda po ang

**[05:44:19.000] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005434)  
aming ahensya na

**[05:44:20.640] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005435)  
kung magkakaroon ng

**[05:44:22.420] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005436)  
pag-uusap, ay handa po

**[05:44:25.260] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005437)  
kaming makipagtulungan,

**[05:44:27.100] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005438)  
Your Honor.

**[05:44:28.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005439)  
Napakababa po kasi ng FDIs natin ngayon,

**[05:44:30.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005440)  
Foreign Direct Investment.

**[05:44:32.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005441)  
So, ang nais ko lang pong

**[05:44:34.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005442)  
i-harp on is

**[05:44:37.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005443)  
it is important

**[05:44:38.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005444)  
for investors to have certainty

**[05:44:41.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005445)  
and time. Aside,

**[05:44:43.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005446)  
from briefing Congress,

**[05:44:45.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005447)  
meron po bang ang PRA

**[05:44:46.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005448)  
na clear target processing time

**[05:44:48.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005449)  
from submission of an application

**[05:44:51.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005450)  
up to final government action.

**[05:44:54.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005451)  
Parang one-stop shop po.

**[05:44:56.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005452)  
Para kung may investors tayo,

**[05:44:59.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005453)  
malaman nila

**[05:45:00.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005461)  
Where exactly are the, ano po ba ang bottlenecks sa ngayon?

**[05:45:03.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005462)  
What can government do to shorten them without weakening environmental and other safeguards?

**[05:45:09.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005463)  
So, kung baga parang nasa inyo na po yung one-stop shop,

**[05:45:13.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005464)  
kayo na rin po ang magpo-process, hindi na po paiba-iba ang polisiya.

**[05:45:19.140] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005465)  
Your Honor, kasi po, nauna po kasi nilang puntahan ang ahensya ng DNR.

**[05:45:25.700] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005466)  
So, depende po sa DNR kung nakapag-comply po yung nag...

**[05:45:30.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005467)  
So, have we identified po right now, for example, kung meron po papasok sa inyo,

**[05:45:35.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005468)  
have we identified the bottlenecks? Kung saan po, ano pong departamento ang talagang nagkakaroon tayo ng problema?

**[05:45:41.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005469)  
Para, ang nais ko lang naman po malaman is saan po makakatulong ang Kongreso sa inyo

**[05:45:47.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005470)  
in terms of policy action or law para po mapadali ang trabaho ng PRA.

**[05:45:55.700] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005471)  
So, yung po ay nire-required po sa amin ng OP, Office of the President to streamline PRA permitting process, Your Honor.

**[05:46:27.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005476)  
So yun lang po. So baka po, we can come up with a report kung saan po nakalagay yung...

**[05:46:32.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005477)  
or ma-identify po natin kung saan ang pinaka-bottlenecks.

**[05:46:35.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005478)  
Para, pagka meron po tayong investor, alam na po natin kung anong kailangan i-address.

**[05:46:42.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005479)  
At alam po ng Kongreso kung paano namin kayo matutulungan.

**[05:46:45.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005480)  
Ano pong pwede natin gawin na batas para mapadali pa ang buhay ninyo

**[05:46:49.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005481)  
at mapadali ang buhay ng mga investor pag pumapasok sila dito.

**[05:46:53.260] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005482)  
Yes po, Your Honor. Noted po.

**[05:46:55.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005483)  
Madam Chair, PRA's almost P210 billion in assets and P5 billion net income in 2025.

**[05:47:05.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005484)  
Considering that, what exactly is the national government supporting in PRA under the budget?

**[05:47:10.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005485)  
And why should that expense be borne by taxpayers instead of PRA's internally generated revenues?

**[05:47:24.420] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005488)  
Your Honor, ang PRA po ay self-liquidating.

**[05:47:29.100] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005489)  
So wala po kaming hawak na pera, funding for infrastructure.

**[05:47:37.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005490)  
So wala po kayong kailangan na budgetary support from the government, the national government?

**[05:47:45.300] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005491)  
Meron naman po.

**[05:47:46.300] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005492)  
Pero except for this project po, Your Honor, wala po kaming pan para maituloy at matapos ang proyekto.

**[05:47:56.600] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005493)  
Kasi kung makikita niyo po, napakalaki po at napakaganda ng proyektong sinasabit namin.

**[05:48:06.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005494)  
So yun na lang po. I just wanted to manifest also that ang projects po ng PRA napakaganda.

**[05:48:14.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005495)  
Kung meron pong suporta na kailangan gawin ang gobyerno para upang mapadali ang pag-implement ng projects ng PRA,

**[05:48:24.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005496)  
I fully support kung ano pong kailangan ng PRA for their projects. Maraming salamat po.

**[05:48:31.020] Rep. Josefina B. Tallado** (asr-005497)  
Maraming salamat po, Your Honor.

**[05:48:34.060] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005498)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:48:44.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005499)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:48:48.820] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-005500)  
I move to be recognized.

**[05:48:53.600] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-005501)  
What about Presley de Jesus?

**[05:48:59.720] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005502)  
Representative Presley de Jesus is hereby recognized.

**[05:49:03.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005503)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[05:49:06.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005504)  
Madam Speaker, there being no more members for the minority who wishes to interpolate,

**[05:49:12.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005505)  
I move to terminate...

**[05:49:14.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005506)  
...the period of sponsorship and debate for the budget of the Philippine Reclamation Authority.

**[05:49:21.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005507)  
So move, Madam Speaker.

**[05:49:23.520] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005508)  
What does the House say?

**[05:49:26.640] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-005509)  
Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellation on the proposed budget of the PRA.

**[05:49:39.040] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005510)  
Madam Speaker, there is a joint motion to terminate the interpolations on the proposed budget of...

**[05:49:44.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005511)  
...the Philippine Reclamation Authority.

**[05:49:46.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005512)  
Is there any objection?

**[05:49:48.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005513)  
The Chair hears none.

**[05:49:50.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005514)  
Interpellations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Reclamation Authority are hereby terminated.

**[05:49:56.520] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005515)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:49:58.380] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005516)  
Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes.

**[05:50:00.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005517)  
Session is suspended.

**[05:52:08.880] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005521)  
Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

**[05:52:12.070] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005522)  
Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers, including attached agencies.

**[05:52:19.600] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005522-split-2)  
There is a motion to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers and its attached agencies. Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

**[05:52:30.990] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005522-split-3)  
Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Department of Migrant Workers? They are the following: Secretary Hans Leo J. Cacdac,

**[05:52:42.650] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005523)  
OWWA Administrator Patricia Yvonne Caunan, Undersecretary Bernard P. Olalia, Undersecretary Felicitas Q. Bay, Undersecretary Jainal T. Rasul Jr., Undersecretary Dominique Rubia-Tutay, Undersecretary Darlene R. Pajarito, and we would also like to acknowledge the regional directors, other officials and employees of DMW and its attached agency OWWA. Madam Speaker.

**[05:53:12.040] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005523-split-2)  
We acknowledge the presence of

**[05:53:14.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005524)  
the heads and officials from the Department of Migrant Workers. Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

**[05:53:21.700] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005524-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Vice Chair Irene G. Labadlabad from the second district of Zamboanga del Norte to sponsor the proposed budget of the DMW.

**[05:53:33.780] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005524-split-3)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. Representative Irene Labadlabad, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, is recognized to begin

**[05:53:44.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005525)  
her sponsorship speech on the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers. You may.

**[05:53:54.600] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005525-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished members of the House of Representatives, ladies and gentlemen, I rise to sponsor the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers, including its attached agency the Overseas Workers Welfare Administration or OWWA, for fiscal year 2027,

**[05:54:18.940] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005526)  
amounting to an expenditure of 10.68 billion. Since its establishment in 2022, the DMW has stayed true to its mandate to protect the rights, preserve the dignity, and promote the welfare of more than 2.2 million overseas Filipino workers across the globe. They serve as a tahanan for our OFWs, whose remittances reached

**[05:54:44.380] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005527)  
a record of US$35.63 billion in 2025, accounting for 8% of our national GDP. The DMW commitment to our OFWs manifests through its key programs and welfare initiatives, such as legal, medical, and other assistance through the Aksyon Fund, repatriation assistance through the OWWA Emergency Repatriation Fund,

**[05:55:14.380] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005528)  
specialized medical care through the OFW Hospital, national reintegration services, anti-illegal recruitment and anti-trafficking operations, and maritime research and skills services, among many others. Knowing the significant economic contributions of OFWs and this government's obligation to protect their rights and welfare along the global volatility and evolving geopolitical

**[05:55:44.380] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005529)  
realities they are facing, it is imperative for this Congress to equip the DMW with the capacity to deliver its call to provide agile and responsive service befitting the hard work and sacrifice of each OFW and their families. And so, Madam Speaker, we solicit your kind support for the swift approval of the budget of the DMW and attached agency for fiscal year 2027.

**[05:56:14.380] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005530)  
We are now ready to address any questions and hope for a meaningful exchange with our distinguished colleagues. Majority Leader.

**[05:56:23.320] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005530-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the honorable Presley De Jesus to interpellate the sponsor.

**[05:56:29.060] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005530-split-3)  
The honorable Presley De Jesus is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[05:56:33.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005530-split-4)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, and to our distinguished sponsor. I already committed that I will ask questions that

**[05:56:44.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005531)  
were not even raised at the committee level para ho mabilis tayo, because there are more departments waiting po. Alam natin may mga trabaho pa rin sila. So I am gonna go right at the [unclear]. Madam Speaker, on the OWWA emergency repatriation fund cut during active regional conflict. Madam Speaker, the OWWA emergency repatriation fund or ERF in the fiscal year 2027 NEP is reduced

**[05:57:14.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005532)  
from 1.2 billion to 900 million, a decrease of about 308 million. In fiscal year 2026, OWWA reportedly utilized 1.7 billion for repatriation amid the ongoing Middle East conflict, including 1.2 billion GAA allocation and a 700 million supplementary release, serving more than 139,000 distressed OFWs.

**[05:57:44.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005533)  
Given that the regional conflict remains an active source of [unclear] risk, what assumptions and projected requirements justify reducing the ERF to 900 million for fiscal year 2027?

**[05:58:15.900] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005534)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, the department or OWWA itself have manifested and requested the need for additional funding because we understand the need for the ERF and alam po natin na hindi naman po natin made-determine agad kung kailan ba magagamit ito. So

**[05:58:44.380] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005535)  
kailangan ang emergency repatriation fund po, kailangan po ng additional sana na funding na PHP575 million. This has been submitted by the Overseas Workers Welfare Administration to the committee.

**[05:59:02.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005535-split-2)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Given the continuing geopolitical risks in the Middle East and other regions where

**[05:59:14.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005536)  
large numbers of Filipinos work, what is the established mechanism and expected timeline for OWWA and DMW to secure supplemental funding if the 900 million ERF is insufficient, and what contingency measures are available while additional funds are being processed?

**[05:59:46.500] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005538)  
Madam Speaker,

**[05:59:47.320] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005539)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[05:59:48.920] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005540)  
for 2026,

**[05:59:52.540] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005541)  
the OWA was

**[05:59:53.560] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005542)  
given supplemental funding

**[05:59:55.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005543)  
of 700 million,

**[05:59:57.420] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005544)  
and for the Action Fund,

**[05:59:59.020] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005545)  
they were given an additional

**[06:00:00.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005547)  
3 billion pesos

**[06:00:02.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005548)  
to help and

**[06:00:04.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005549)  
make sure that all

**[06:00:06.400] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005550)  
Filipinos who need to be repatriated

**[06:00:08.700] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005551)  
are well-funded and supported.

**[06:00:11.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005552)  
So, nagkasya naman po ba?

**[06:00:15.100] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005553)  
Yes.

**[06:00:15.740] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005554)  
Yes, distinguished colleague.

**[06:00:17.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005555)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor.

**[06:00:20.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005556)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:00:21.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005557)  
reports raised during the House Budget

**[06:00:23.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005558)  
hearing indicate that

**[06:00:25.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005559)  
returning distressed OFWs

**[06:00:27.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005560)  
face

**[06:00:29.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005561)  
3 to 6 month delays

**[06:00:31.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005562)  
in receiving financial

**[06:00:33.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005563)  
assistance under

**[06:00:35.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005564)  
Department Order No. 02

**[06:00:37.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005565)  
2025 with some

**[06:00:39.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005566)  
OFWs suffering from

**[06:00:41.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005567)  
chronic illnesses,

**[06:00:42.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005568)  
reportedly dying

**[06:00:44.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005569)  
while waiting for the

**[06:00:46.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005570)  
assistance they urgently needed.

**[06:00:49.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005571)  
What caused these delays?

**[06:00:50.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005572)  
Including within the Action Fund

**[06:00:53.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005573)  
information system

**[06:00:54.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005574)  
and what target processing time

**[06:00:56.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005575)  
will

**[06:00:57.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005576)  
DMW commit to?

**[06:01:02.420] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005577)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:01:03.740] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005578)  
distinguished colleague,

**[06:01:05.960] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005579)  
there were some delays

**[06:01:07.280] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005580)  
due to the tensions

**[06:01:08.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005581)  
in the Middle East

**[06:01:11.580] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005582)  
that needed to be addressed on the ground.

**[06:01:13.920] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005583)  
However, now that with the replenishment

**[06:01:15.860] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005584)  
the supplemental budget

**[06:01:17.520] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005585)  
given,

**[06:01:19.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005586)  
the disbursement

**[06:01:21.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005587)  
of these support is now ongoing.

**[06:01:25.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005588)  
The 2025

**[06:01:26.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005589)  
COA Audit Report

**[06:01:29.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005590)  
flagged Action Fund deficiencies

**[06:01:31.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005591)  
including

**[06:01:33.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005592)  
163.2 million

**[06:01:34.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005593)  
in missing receipts,

**[06:01:37.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005594)  
improperly filled

**[06:01:38.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005595)  
recommendation reports,

**[06:01:41.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005596)  
and deficient supporting documents,

**[06:01:43.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005597)  
as well as grants to

**[06:01:44.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005598)  
ineligible beneficiaries.

**[06:01:48.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005599)  
And under

**[06:01:49.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005600)  
unstandardized

**[06:01:51.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005601)  
medical severity

**[06:01:53.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005602)  
classification,

**[06:01:54.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005603)  
what verification eligibility

**[06:01:56.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005604)  
and medical assessment

**[06:01:58.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005605)  
controls

**[06:02:01.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005606)  
has the DMW

**[06:02:02.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005607)  
DMW instituted

**[06:02:04.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005608)  
across migrant workers

**[06:02:06.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005609)  
offices and regional offices

**[06:02:09.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005610)  
and how will DMW monitor

**[06:02:11.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005611)  
compliance across

**[06:02:12.920] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005612)  
all disbursing units?

**[06:02:17.820] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005613)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:02:19.280] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005614)  
distinguished colleague,

**[06:02:21.460] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005615)  
that is currently being

**[06:02:22.880] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005616)  
complied as we

**[06:02:23.940] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005617)  
are

**[06:02:25.120] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005618)  
as we speak right now

**[06:02:27.820] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005619)  
and with the use of the action

**[06:02:29.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005620)  
information, action fund

**[06:02:31.640] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005621)  
information system, it's become

**[06:02:33.620] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005622)  
easier for disbursement,

**[06:02:36.040] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005623)  
the proper disbursement of financial

**[06:02:37.840] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005624)  
assistance to our overseas

**[06:02:39.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005625)  
Filipino workers.

**[06:02:42.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005626)  
Again,

**[06:02:43.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005627)  
I will move to my next question.

**[06:02:46.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005628)  
The structural building,

**[06:02:48.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005629)  
safety hazard,

**[06:02:49.920] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005630)  
and zero ISSP capital

**[06:02:51.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005631)  
allocation. Madam Speaker,

**[06:02:54.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005632)  
DPW,

**[06:02:55.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005633)  
structural integrity assessment

**[06:02:57.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005634)  
reportedly found

**[06:02:59.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005635)  
that the OWA central

**[06:03:01.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005636)  
office building meets

**[06:03:03.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005637)  
only 10% of the minimum

**[06:03:05.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005638)  
seismic compliance

**[06:03:07.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005639)  
standard. Given

**[06:03:09.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005640)  
the potential life safety risk

**[06:03:11.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005641)  
to OWA, personal

**[06:03:13.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005642)  
and OFW clients,

**[06:03:15.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005643)  
why does the fiscal year

**[06:03:17.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005644)  
2027 NEP

**[06:03:18.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005645)  
provide no, no,

**[06:03:21.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005646)  
no capital allocation for

**[06:03:23.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005647)  
the structural retrofit

**[06:03:25.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005648)  
or relocation of the

**[06:03:26.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005649)  
facility and where is this

**[06:03:29.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005650)  
requirement program

**[06:03:30.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005651)  
if at all?

**[06:03:33.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005652)  
Ano nangyari dito?

**[06:03:35.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005653)  
Alam nyo na po, Madam Speaker,

**[06:03:37.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005654)  
ito mga OFW, ito yung mga

**[06:03:38.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005655)  
modern day hero natin. That's why

**[06:03:40.920] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005656)  
I salute ang mga terminal

**[06:03:43.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005657)  
natin, the airport terminal, especially

**[06:03:44.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005658)  
terminal 3, na may dedicated

**[06:03:47.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005659)  
OFW lounge

**[06:03:48.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005660)  
natin doon. So,

**[06:03:51.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005661)  
I salute to

**[06:03:51.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005662)  
Mr. Ramon Ang, na napaganda niya.

**[06:03:55.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005663)  
Sana ganyan po lahat

**[06:03:56.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005664)  
ng ating

**[06:03:57.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005665)  
mga terminal na we may welcome po natin.

**[06:04:00.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005666)  
Remember, Madam Speaker,

**[06:04:02.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005667)  
they are remitting annually

**[06:04:04.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005668)  
25 billion.

**[06:04:07.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005669)  
So, ito lang po, small

**[06:04:08.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005670)  
consolation para sa kanila. But

**[06:04:10.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005671)  
this building alone, no?

**[06:04:12.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005672)  
Ano nangyari dito?

**[06:04:14.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005673)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[06:04:17.940] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005674)  
we share

**[06:04:18.580] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005675)  
the same concern and that's

**[06:04:20.680] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005676)  
why OWA has manifested

**[06:04:22.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005677)  
the request for an additional

**[06:04:24.540] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005678)  
support for

**[06:04:26.380] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005679)  
general administration and support

**[06:04:28.580] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005680)  
funding of

**[06:04:30.040] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005681)  
353 million to address

**[06:04:32.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005682)  
the very

**[06:04:33.600] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005683)  
concerns that you have raised

**[06:04:36.520] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005684)  
distinguished colleague.

**[06:04:38.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005685)  
So, ano tingin nyo, Madam

**[06:04:40.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005686)  
Speaker, kailan natin

**[06:04:42.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005687)  
ma-re-retrofit to?

**[06:04:45.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005688)  
Kasi, ito, pasyalan

**[06:04:46.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005689)  
ito ng ano? Puntahan talaga ito ng mga

**[06:04:48.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005690)  
OFW workers natin?

**[06:05:08.960] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005691)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[06:05:12.120] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005692)  
currently,

**[06:05:13.060] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005693)  
or as for now,

**[06:05:14.420] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005694)  
we've done a temporary

**[06:05:16.300] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005695)  
transfer of our staff

**[06:05:18.600] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005696)  
and we have,

**[06:05:21.080] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005697)  
and DPWH have required

**[06:05:22.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005698)  
additional assistance.

**[06:05:24.540] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005699)  
Assessment for the building. So, until

**[06:05:26.380] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005700)  
we are able to comply

**[06:05:28.760] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005701)  
and comply

**[06:05:30.700] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005702)  
with the requirements,

**[06:05:32.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005703)  
we are,

**[06:05:34.620] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005704)  
we've gone through with a

**[06:05:36.500] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005705)  
temporary transfer of our staff.

**[06:05:39.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005706)  
And, Madam Speaker,

**[06:05:41.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005707)  
this will be my last question,

**[06:05:42.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005708)  
no? Maray pa naman susunod dyan.

**[06:05:45.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005709)  
So, reintegration,

**[06:05:46.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005710)  
livelihood, grant adequacy

**[06:05:48.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005711)  
and mandatory two-year impact

**[06:05:50.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005712)  
tracking. Question, Madam

**[06:05:52.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005713)  
Speaker, DMW is seeking,

**[06:05:54.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005714)  
to increase individual

**[06:05:55.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005715)  
livelihood assistance from

**[06:05:58.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005716)  
10,000 to 15,000

**[06:06:01.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005717)  
to 20,000

**[06:06:02.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005718)  
per returning worker

**[06:06:04.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005719)  
with 51,000

**[06:06:06.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005720)  
beneficiaries

**[06:06:07.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005721)  
targeted. This will require

**[06:06:10.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005722)  
approximately 1.02

**[06:06:12.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005723)  
billion in livelihood

**[06:06:14.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005724)  
assistance with

**[06:06:16.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005725)  
only 309

**[06:06:19.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005726)  
million proposed under

**[06:06:20.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005727)  
the 2027.

**[06:06:21.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005728)  
Remember, 1.2 billion to

**[06:06:24.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005729)  
309 million lang

**[06:06:26.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005730)  
for 2027 allocation.

**[06:06:28.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005731)  
How many returning of

**[06:06:30.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005732)  
OFW can receive the 20,000

**[06:06:32.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005733)  
assistance at the proposed

**[06:06:34.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005734)  
funding level kung

**[06:06:36.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005735)  
309 million lang

**[06:06:37.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005736)  
proposed under 2027?

**[06:06:41.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005737)  
So, there's a big

**[06:06:42.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005738)  
disparity from 1 billion to

**[06:06:44.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005739)  
300 million.

**[06:06:51.880] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005740)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished College,

**[06:06:54.020] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005741)  
again, we do share the same

**[06:06:56.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005742)  
concern as you

**[06:06:58.100] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005743)  
concretely. And so, that's

**[06:07:00.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005744)  
why DMW have

**[06:07:02.420] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005745)  
requested as well an additional

**[06:07:04.280] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005746)  
300 million as well

**[06:07:06.260] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005747)  
to

**[06:07:06.520] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005748)  
or for the enhancement

**[06:07:10.540] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005749)  
of reintegration programs.

**[06:07:13.060] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005750)  
Currently,

**[06:07:14.060] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005751)  
10,000 beneficiaries

**[06:07:16.180] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005752)  
lang po ang mabibigyan natin with the current

**[06:07:18.420] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005753)  
level. So, hopefully, we can reach

**[06:07:20.140] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005754)  
10,000 lang po.

**[06:07:24.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005755)  
Supposed to be 51,000.

**[06:07:26.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005756)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:07:28.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005757)  
this lies the problem again, no?

**[06:07:30.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005758)  
The overseas workers

**[06:07:32.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005759)  
natin, ito yung mga tinatawag

**[06:07:34.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005760)  
natin bayani. Remember,

**[06:07:36.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005761)  
$25 billion

**[06:07:38.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005762)  
annually ang nire-remit

**[06:07:40.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005763)  
nila sa atin. Ito lang, hindi

**[06:07:42.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005764)  
natin mabigyan ng 1 billion. There's only

**[06:07:44.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005765)  
what? $20 million lang.

**[06:07:46.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005766)  
In short to, walang maliit

**[06:07:48.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005767)  
na kumpara mo sa mga

**[06:07:50.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005768)  
nire-remit nila sa atin. Again,

**[06:07:52.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005769)  
no, nakaka-

**[06:07:54.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005770)  
awa ang ating mga

**[06:07:56.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005771)  
modern day hero kung hindi

**[06:07:58.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005772)  
natin mabigyan. Only

**[06:07:59.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005773)  
10,000 beneficiary out of

**[06:08:02.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005774)  
51,000. So,

**[06:08:04.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005775)  
kawawa sila. That's why I'm appealing

**[06:08:06.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005776)  
to the Committee on Appropriation na

**[06:08:07.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005777)  
dagdagan natin ang budget

**[06:08:10.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005778)  
ng

**[06:08:11.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005779)  
ito, livelihood natin

**[06:08:13.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005780)  
para sa ating manggagawa. Again,

**[06:08:16.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005781)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished

**[06:08:18.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005782)  
Sponsor, on behalf

**[06:08:20.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005783)  
of Pireca Parties,

**[06:08:21.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005784)  
kaisan nyo po kami na dapat,

**[06:08:24.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005785)  
nagdagan ang pondo

**[06:08:25.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005786)  
ng DMW. Maraming salamat po,

**[06:08:28.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-005787)  
Madam Speaker.

**[06:08:31.460] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005788)  
Majority Leader.

**[06:08:33.660] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005789)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:08:34.480] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005790)  
I move to recognize the Honorable Robert

**[06:08:36.180] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-005791)  
Nazal to interpolate the sponsor.

**[06:08:38.540] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005792)  
Honorable Robert Nazal is hereby

**[06:08:40.080] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005793)  
recognized.

**[06:08:42.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005794)  
Thank you.

**[06:08:51.340] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005795)  
Good afternoon, Madam Speaker.

**[06:08:54.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005796)  
Good afternoon to the

**[06:08:56.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005797)  
DMW and OA.

**[06:09:01.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005798)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:09:02.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005799)  
I already raised the emergency

**[06:09:04.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005800)  
repatriation fund tulad po

**[06:09:06.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005801)  
nang nirais ng aking

**[06:09:07.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005802)  
nakatapos lang na napakapoging

**[06:09:10.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005803)  
colleague.

**[06:09:11.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005804)  
During the pre-plenary

**[06:09:13.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005805)  
deliberations. So, I will

**[06:09:15.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005806)  
no longer repeat my questions.

**[06:09:18.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005807)  
I only reiterate

**[06:09:19.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005808)  
that the ERF

**[06:09:22.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005809)  
must be increased and protected.

**[06:09:24.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005810)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:09:26.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005811)  
the conflict has not ended and government

**[06:09:28.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005812)  
must always have sufficient funds

**[06:09:29.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005813)  
ready because

**[06:09:32.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005814)  
we cannot predict when another

**[06:09:33.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005815)  
evacuation or mass repatriation

**[06:09:35.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005816)  
will become

**[06:09:37.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005817)  
necessary.

**[06:09:39.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005818)  
Madam Speaker, even

**[06:09:41.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005819)  
when there is no major crisis,

**[06:09:44.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005820)  
the ERF is still used

**[06:09:46.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005821)  
for regular repatriation,

**[06:09:49.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005822)  
airfare,

**[06:09:51.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005823)  
and onward

**[06:09:52.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005824)  
domestic transportation, medical

**[06:09:53.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005825)  
and psychosocial assistance,

**[06:09:56.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005826)  
and other services for distressed

**[06:09:58.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005827)  
OFWs.

**[06:10:00.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005828)  
A contingency fund

**[06:10:02.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005829)  
should not be reduced simply

**[06:10:04.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005830)  
because the worst emergency

**[06:10:06.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005831)  
did not occur during a particular

**[06:10:08.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005832)  
year. We should not

**[06:10:10.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005833)  
wait for a crisis before looking for money.

**[06:10:14.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005834)  
So, I will go

**[06:10:16.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005835)  
to my first question,

**[06:10:18.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005836)  
Madam Speaker.

**[06:10:19.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005837)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:10:22.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005838)  
distinguished colleague, through you,

**[06:10:23.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005839)  
may I ask

**[06:10:24.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005840)  
our distinguished

**[06:10:28.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005841)  
colleague to confirm with

**[06:10:29.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005842)  
Administrator Kaunan,

**[06:10:32.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005843)  
after an 8.5

**[06:10:33.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005844)  
billion proposal to NEPGAP,

**[06:10:37.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005845)  
is OWAS

**[06:10:38.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005846)  
revised 2 billion package

**[06:10:39.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005847)  
already the absolute minimum for

**[06:10:41.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005848)  
urgent and

**[06:10:42.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005849)  
implementation-ready requirements?

**[06:10:52.100] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005850)  
Yes,

**[06:10:53.320] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005851)  
yes,

**[06:10:53.620] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005852)  
Mr.

**[06:10:53.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005853)  
Distinguished Colleague.

**[06:10:56.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005854)  
Absolute minimum?

**[06:10:58.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005855)  
Yes.

**[06:11:00.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005856)  
And,

**[06:11:00.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005857)  
mabibigay po ba ito?

**[06:11:06.180] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005858)  
That will be,

**[06:11:07.600] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005859)  
that's certainly the hope.

**[06:11:10.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005860)  
Sana ipaglaban natin,

**[06:11:11.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005861)  
distinguished colleague.

**[06:11:12.920] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005862)  
Mga kaasa po kayo na ipaglaban natin yan.

**[06:11:16.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005863)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:11:17.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005864)  
may I ask our distinguished

**[06:11:19.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005865)  
colleague to confirm

**[06:11:21.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005866)  
with the OWA how

**[06:11:23.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005867)  
the 353.19 million

**[06:11:25.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005868)  
will be divided among

**[06:11:31.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005869)  
the Information Systems

**[06:11:34.340] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005870)  
Strategic Plan,

**[06:11:36.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005871)  
rentals for the Central Office

**[06:11:38.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005872)  
and new overseas

**[06:11:39.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005873)  
welfare offices,

**[06:11:42.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005874)  
compensation adjustments for job

**[06:11:43.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005875)  
order personnel, and the Negros

**[06:11:45.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005876)  
Island Regional Welfare Office.

**[06:11:47.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005877)  
Thank you.

**[06:11:53.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005878)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:11:59.140] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005879)  
distinguished colleague,

**[06:12:00.460] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005880)  
the additional 353 million

**[06:12:03.880] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005881)  
requested,

**[06:12:05.280] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005882)  
kasama na po doon

**[06:12:06.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005883)  
ng Information Systems

**[06:12:08.460] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005884)  
Strategic Plan,

**[06:12:10.320] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005885)  
ang office rental po,

**[06:12:11.920] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005886)  
and central office

**[06:12:13.740] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005887)  
and new overseas

**[06:12:15.740] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005888)  
welfare offices,

**[06:12:17.940] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005889)  
kasama na po dyan

**[06:12:18.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005890)  
ang sana pangpaayos rin po

**[06:12:20.960] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005891)  
ng building ng OWA.

**[06:12:23.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005892)  
Ang compensation adjustment for job order personnel, kasama na rin po yan para po mas maayos na ang compensation natin para sa ating mga JO.

**[06:12:34.520] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005893)  
At ang establishment po ng Negros Island Regional Welfare Office.

**[06:12:41.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005894)  
Madam Speaker, may I further ask our distinguished colleague to confirm whether an audit observation memorandum was issued

**[06:12:49.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005895)  
concerning the proper compensation of OWASP job order personnel.

**[06:12:55.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005896)  
How much is required to comply with the AOM?

**[06:12:59.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005897)  
What adjustment is due?

**[06:13:01.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005898)  
And how many workers are covered?

**[06:13:19.520] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005899)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, currently there is an AOM and currently din po 2023 rates pa ang binibigay natin para sa ating mga JO

**[06:13:34.160] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005900)  
and hopefully by 2027 updated na po ang mga rates na binibigay natin.

**[06:13:39.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005901)  
What is needed po to update the rates?

**[06:13:43.900] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005902)  
Yes, the additional funding po. That's what, that's really the clencher.

**[06:13:49.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005903)  
So we cannot, we cannot update the rates until the additional funding is given?

**[06:13:55.840] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005904)  
Yes, ma'am.

**[06:13:59.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005905)  
Madam Speaker, through you, may I ask our distinguished colleague, of the 433.8 million for Alagang OWA,

**[06:14:09.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005906)  
which of the seven seafarer welfare centers, five OFW airport lounges, five kasanayan at kabuhayan centers,

**[06:14:18.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005907)  
and two OFWs?

**[06:14:19.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005908)  
Of the five OFW global centers will actually open or become operational in 2027.

**[06:14:25.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005909)  
What is the minimum amount and beneficiary target for each facility program?

**[06:14:49.520] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005910)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[06:14:55.580] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005911)  
ngayon po, nakabukas na ang seafarers welfare.

**[06:15:00.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005912)  
Center sa NCR.

**[06:15:02.860] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005913)  
Susunod na po ang

**[06:15:04.100] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005914)  
Iloilo and by next year, plano

**[06:15:06.040] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005915)  
po sana na mabukas na

**[06:15:07.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005916)  
ang Seafarers Welfare Center

**[06:15:09.840] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005917)  
sa Cagayan at Davao.

**[06:15:11.920] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005918)  
At susunod rin po sa

**[06:15:13.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005919)  
Pangasinan at Cebu.

**[06:15:17.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005920)  
Ano po ang minimum amount para

**[06:15:19.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005921)  
mabuksan lahat to? And ano po

**[06:15:21.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005922)  
ang beneficiary target

**[06:15:22.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005923)  
for each facility program?

**[06:15:30.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005924)  
Minimum po na kailangan ay

**[06:15:36.580] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005925)  
P83.8 million pesos.

**[06:15:41.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005926)  
And what is the target beneficiary number?

**[06:15:46.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005927)  
Ilan pong beneficiaries ang makikinabang dito?

**[06:15:52.580] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005928)  
Lahat pong deployment

**[06:15:54.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005929)  
ng Seafarers.

**[06:16:00.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005930)  
Around 500,000.

**[06:16:02.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005931)  
500,000 OFWs.

**[06:16:04.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005932)  
500,000 a year.

**[06:16:06.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005933)  
A year?

**[06:16:07.300] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005934)  
A year.

**[06:16:08.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005935)  
Thank you. Thank you for that

**[06:16:10.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005936)  
Madam Sponsor.

**[06:16:13.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005937)  
May I ask our distinguished

**[06:16:14.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005938)  
colleague, is the requested

**[06:16:16.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005939)  
130 million

**[06:16:17.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005940)  
already the minimum

**[06:16:20.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005941)  
indispensable amount

**[06:16:21.340] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005942)  
for existing local hires,

**[06:16:24.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005943)  
legal retainers and medical

**[06:16:25.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005944)  
and health retainers?

**[06:16:28.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005945)  
Which overseas

**[06:16:29.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005946)  
posts will remain without legal

**[06:16:31.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005947)  
or medical retainer coverage

**[06:16:33.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005948)  
if the full amount is not approved?

**[06:16:44.760] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005949)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:16:46.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005950)  
distinguished colleague,

**[06:16:47.580] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005951)  
yes po, and we plan

**[06:16:49.280] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005952)  
to have an additional

**[06:16:50.840] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005953)  
10 medical

**[06:16:52.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005954)  
retainers po

**[06:16:54.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005955)  
in 10 different priority

**[06:16:57.320] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005956)  
posts in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia,

**[06:16:59.480] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005957)  
Dubai, Kuwait,

**[06:17:02.420] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005958)  
Jeddah, Doha,

**[06:17:04.240] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005959)  
Kuala Lumpur,

**[06:17:05.760] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005960)  
Alkabar, Hong Kong,

**[06:17:07.880] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005961)  
Taipei, and Muscat, Oman.

**[06:17:16.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005962)  
And currently,

**[06:17:18.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005963)  
hindi po natin makahire sila?

**[06:17:23.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005964)  
And currently po, meron na rin po tayong

**[06:17:26.100] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005965)  
medical retainers po.

**[06:17:29.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005966)  
In Dubai, and

**[06:17:30.880] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005967)  
meron na rin po ang agreements with Jordan

**[06:17:33.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005968)  
and Qatar.

**[06:17:34.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005969)  
Can you explain, Madam Sponsor,

**[06:17:37.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005970)  
ano po yung pinakatrabaho

**[06:17:39.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005971)  
nung medical retainers

**[06:17:41.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005972)  
natin, and yung

**[06:17:42.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005973)  
medical and health retainers and yung

**[06:17:45.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005974)  
legal retainers?

**[06:17:48.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005975)  
Ano po ang nagiging,

**[06:17:51.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005976)  
ano po ang benepisyo nito

**[06:17:53.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005977)  
na meron tayo nyan para sa ating

**[06:17:55.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005978)  
mga OFW?

**[06:17:59.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005979)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:18:04.420] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005980)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:18:06.120] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005981)  
ang arrangement po,

**[06:18:08.480] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005982)  
bali, para po silang mga

**[06:18:09.960] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005983)  
legal retainers din po na

**[06:18:11.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005984)  
para mabigyan po kaagad

**[06:18:13.460] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005985)  
ng medical services

**[06:18:15.880] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005986)  
ang ating mga nangangailangan na OFWs.

**[06:18:19.180] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005987)  
Yun po ang

**[06:18:19.740] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005988)  
purpose nila.

**[06:18:24.020] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005989)  
Para po, we can immediately

**[06:18:26.120] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005990)  
refer ang mga

**[06:18:27.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005991)  
cases, medical cases,

**[06:18:29.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005992)  
the reason to do this.

**[06:18:30.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005993)  
So without them, in certain

**[06:18:32.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005994)  
areas po na hindi,

**[06:18:35.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005995)  
halimbawa, hindi po natin mapupondohan yung

**[06:18:36.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005996)  
pagdagdag, ano po ang nawawala

**[06:18:39.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005997)  
sa ating mga OFW

**[06:18:41.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005998)  
na servisyo?

**[06:18:55.040] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-005999)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:18:57.240] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006000)  
unfortunately po, this will cause

**[06:18:59.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006001)  
delays po para sa pagbigay

**[06:19:01.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006002)  
ng medical

**[06:19:03.560] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006003)  
service para po sa ating mga

**[06:19:05.840] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006004)  
OFWs dahil hindi po agad

**[06:19:07.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006005)  
mariresolbahan or hindi po tayo

**[06:19:10.060] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006006)  
makakapag-refer ng mga

**[06:19:11.680] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006007)  
medical cases po.

**[06:19:13.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006008)  
Medical and legal?

**[06:19:15.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006009)  
Yes. So, in terms of legal retainer,

**[06:19:17.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006010)  
for example, meron po silang

**[06:19:19.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006011)  
naging kaso, nagkaroon ng wrongful

**[06:19:22.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006012)  
na pag-aresto.

**[06:19:24.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006013)  
Pwede pong, kung wala po tayong

**[06:19:26.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006014)  
legal retainer, pwede pong

**[06:19:28.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006015)  
makulong sila, ma-detain

**[06:19:30.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006016)  
or whatever, tapos hindi po tayo

**[06:19:33.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006017)  
nakakapag-respondi kagad

**[06:19:35.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006018)  
ang ating gobyerno.

**[06:19:37.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006019)  
Tama po ba?

**[06:19:38.840] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006020)  
Yes po, kasi kung may absence

**[06:19:41.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006021)  
po ng legal retainer,

**[06:19:43.160] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006022)  
hindi po kaagad, again,

**[06:19:44.820] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006023)  
matutulungan or pwede pong

**[06:19:47.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006024)  
And given the 130 million

**[06:19:49.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006025)  
requested,

**[06:19:52.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006026)  
ano po ba dapat

**[06:19:53.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006027)  
ang talagang amount

**[06:19:54.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006028)  
to fully cover

**[06:19:56.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006029)  
yung ating lahat ng mga

**[06:19:58.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006030)  
OFWs para makover po

**[06:20:01.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006031)  
natin yung hiring

**[06:20:02.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006032)  
ng legal and

**[06:20:05.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006033)  
medical and health retainers?

**[06:20:28.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006034)  
So, I'd just like to clarify also,

**[06:20:45.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006035)  
this fund is supposed to cover

**[06:20:46.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006036)  
the hiring for support

**[06:20:49.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006037)  
for the support of the agency

**[06:20:52.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006038)  
to our OFWs in other countries.

**[06:20:55.860] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006039)  
Yes.

**[06:20:57.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006040)  
So, ano po ang

**[06:20:58.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006041)  
ngayon?

**[06:20:58.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006042)  
Ano pong mga bansa

**[06:20:59.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006043)  
ang hindi natin mako-cover?

**[06:21:28.760] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006044)  
Yes, ma'am.

**[06:21:29.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006045)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:21:33.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006046)  
distinguished colleague,

**[06:21:35.420] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006047)  
gaya po nang nasabi kanina,

**[06:21:37.220] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006048)  
yung priority po

**[06:21:38.320] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006049)  
ng mga medical retainers,

**[06:21:41.900] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006050)  
yung kanina po

**[06:21:43.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006051)  
nang nasabi. Currently,

**[06:21:45.020] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006052)  
DMW only has

**[06:21:46.560] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006053)  
medical retainers in Dubai,

**[06:21:49.260] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006054)  
Jordan, and Qatar.

**[06:21:50.900] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006055)  
And same din po in the legal side,

**[06:21:52.820] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006056)  
syempre, gusto po natin madagdagan

**[06:21:54.880] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006057)  
rin po ang ating legal retainers

**[06:21:57.020] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006058)  
para po mas ma-report,

**[06:21:58.760] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006059)  
servisyon pa po ang ating mga

**[06:22:00.620] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006060)  
OFWs.

**[06:22:02.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006061)  
So, marami pong bansa na hindi

**[06:22:04.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006062)  
natin mako-cover. And what is the

**[06:22:06.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006063)  
needed amount to cover of everything?

**[06:22:28.760] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006064)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished

**[06:22:48.940] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006065)  
Colleague, total po ng

**[06:22:58.760] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006066)  
We have currently po

**[06:23:01.460] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006067)  
a total of

**[06:23:02.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006068)  
32 legal retainers and

**[06:23:05.140] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006069)  
13 in-house lawyers.

**[06:23:07.560] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006070)  
At kailangan po po ng

**[06:23:09.180] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006071)  
11 pa po

**[06:23:11.260] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006072)  
para po sa

**[06:23:13.620] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006073)  
43 posts na kailangan pa

**[06:23:15.560] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006074)  
na legal retainers.

**[06:23:18.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006075)  
So, Madam Sponsor,

**[06:23:19.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006076)  
Madam Speaker, I would just like to emphasize

**[06:23:21.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006077)  
the importance na makover po

**[06:23:23.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006078)  
ng DMW ang kanilang personnel

**[06:23:25.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006079)  
support for

**[06:23:27.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006080)  
all our OFWs

**[06:23:29.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006081)  
OFWs in different countries.

**[06:23:33.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006082)  
The

**[06:23:33.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006083)  
contribution of OFWs

**[06:23:36.340] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006084)  
to our GDP

**[06:23:37.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006085)  
is massive.

**[06:23:39.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006086)  
Napakalaki po ng contribution nila.

**[06:23:41.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006087)  
So, dapat po para sa akin, hindi po dapat tinitipid

**[06:23:44.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006088)  
ang

**[06:23:45.340] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006089)  
kailangan na suporta para sa

**[06:23:47.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006090)  
mga OFWs.

**[06:23:49.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006091)  
So, my next question, Madam Speaker,

**[06:23:52.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006092)  
through our Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:23:54.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006093)  
for the 447.99

**[06:23:57.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006094)  
for Capital Outlay Request,

**[06:23:59.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006095)  
are the sites, plans,

**[06:24:01.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006096)  
specifications, procurement documents

**[06:24:03.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006097)  
and implementation schedules

**[06:24:04.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006098)  
for the ROW 2 and 5

**[06:24:07.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006099)  
facilities,

**[06:24:09.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006100)  
ICT modernization,

**[06:24:11.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006101)  
motor vehicles, OWA data center

**[06:24:13.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006102)  
and software already complete?

**[06:24:16.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006103)  
What is the minimum

**[06:24:17.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006104)  
non-deferable amount?

**[06:24:19.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006105)  
And can these projects be

**[06:24:21.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006106)  
substantially implemented

**[06:24:22.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006107)  
within fiscal year 2027?

**[06:24:27.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006108)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:24:54.640] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006109)  
meron na po tayong plans.

**[06:24:57.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006110)  
At meron na rin po tayong lupa

**[06:24:59.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006111)  
specifically for Region 5.

**[06:25:01.160] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006112)  
Currently, kailangan na lang din po

**[06:25:02.700] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006113)  
talaga ng funding. Yun po ang

**[06:25:04.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006114)  
hinihintay po, actually.

**[06:25:07.220] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006115)  
And approved plans na po ito.

**[06:25:09.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006116)  
So, ready for implementation?

**[06:25:11.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006117)  
May implement na po ito?

**[06:25:12.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006118)  
Within this year or before 2027?

**[06:25:16.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006119)  
Or within 2027?

**[06:25:18.220] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006120)  
Yes, for 2027 po,

**[06:25:20.080] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006121)  
as long as mapondohan po.

**[06:25:23.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006122)  
Pero wala pang pondo.

**[06:25:24.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006123)  
So, hindi may implement.

**[06:25:27.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006124)  
Hindi pa po.

**[06:25:30.120] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006125)  
Hindi pa nagsisimula.

**[06:25:33.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006126)  
So, Madam Sponsor,

**[06:25:35.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006127)  
alam mo na, marami ka trabaho.

**[06:25:37.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006128)  
But I am here to assist you

**[06:25:39.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006129)  
para sa DMW,

**[06:25:41.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006130)  
para po sa ating mga

**[06:25:42.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006131)  
OFWs.

**[06:25:45.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006132)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:25:48.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006133)  
Congress created the

**[06:25:49.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006134)  
Congressional Migrant Workers Scholarship

**[06:25:51.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006135)  
Program in 1995.

**[06:25:53.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006136)  
Yet only 23.7

**[06:25:55.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006137)  
million remains

**[06:25:57.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006138)  
from its original 200 million seed fund.

**[06:26:01.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006139)  
Through you, may I ask

**[06:26:03.340] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006140)  
our distinguished colleague

**[06:26:04.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006141)  
to confirm with OWA

**[06:26:06.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006142)  
that the requested 60 million

**[06:26:08.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006143)  
will support 1,000 new scholars

**[06:26:10.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006144)  
beginning academic year

**[06:26:12.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006145)  
2027 and 2028.

**[06:26:15.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006146)  
Why should Congress allow

**[06:26:16.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006147)  
a program it created to run out of funds?

**[06:26:19.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006148)  
And should there now be a regular

**[06:26:20.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006149)  
annual replenishment?

**[06:26:27.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006150)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:26:45.060] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006151)  
ang last po na,

**[06:26:46.960] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006152)  
last time na napondohan po

**[06:26:48.920] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006153)  
ang ating Congressional

**[06:26:50.500] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006154)  
Migrant Workers Scholarship Program

**[06:26:52.640] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006155)  
ay 31 years ago pa po.

**[06:26:55.060] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006156)  
Kaya naman po,

**[06:26:56.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006157)  
if,

**[06:26:57.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006158)  
given the chance

**[06:26:59.280] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006159)  
to replenish this

**[06:27:00.960] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006160)  
60 million pesos po,

**[06:27:02.960] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006161)  
I would cater 1,000 new scholars

**[06:27:05.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006162)  
in the academic year

**[06:27:07.380] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006163)  
of 2027 to 2028.

**[06:27:10.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006164)  
May our distinguished sponsor

**[06:27:11.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006165)  
explain

**[06:27:13.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006166)  
kung ano po ang

**[06:27:15.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006167)  
background nitong scholarship program nito?

**[06:27:18.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006168)  
Why was this created?

**[06:27:19.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006169)  
Sino po ang tinutulungan nito?

**[06:27:25.460] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006170)  
Tinutulungan po ito,

**[06:27:26.740] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006171)  
ah,

**[06:27:27.040] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006172)  
tinutulungan po nito

**[06:27:28.060] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006173)  
ang mga anak po

**[06:27:29.060] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006174)  
ng mga OFWs.

**[06:27:30.600] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006175)  
Yun po ang...

**[06:27:31.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006176)  
Mga anak ng OFWs na...

**[06:27:34.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006177)  
How do they qualify?

**[06:27:57.520] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006205)  
Ang mga requirements po ay dapat nasa science and tech

**[06:28:02.060] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006244)  
course po sila,

**[06:28:03.220] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006245)  
Yun po ang inaaral nila.

**[06:28:04.920] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006246)  
At,

**[06:28:05.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006247)  
kailangan rin po silang makapasa ng

**[06:28:08.500] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006248)  
qualification test

**[06:28:09.680] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006249)  
done by the DOSD

**[06:28:11.540] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006250)  
and after all the assessment

**[06:28:13.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006251)  
at kumpamasa po sila,

**[06:28:15.320] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006252)  
mabibigyan po sila ng

**[06:28:16.520] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006253)  
60,000 pesos

**[06:28:17.860] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006254)  
per year.

**[06:28:20.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006255)  
60,000 pesos

**[06:28:21.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006256)  
na scholarship po per year.

**[06:28:23.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006257)  
So, these are for children of OFWs

**[06:28:26.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006258)  
who are abroad or who are here?

**[06:28:29.580] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006259)  
Who are here po,

**[06:28:30.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006260)  
nasa Pilipinas.

**[06:28:32.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006261)  
So, yun po ang mga OFW

**[06:28:35.020] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006262)  
or mga anak po ng mga OFW

**[06:28:37.520] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006263)  
na naiwan po dito sa Pilipinas.

**[06:28:39.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006264)  
Nawala na po magulang?

**[06:28:40.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006265)  
Solo parent ba?

**[06:28:42.920] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006266)  
Pwede rin po.

**[06:28:44.700] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006267)  
Solo parent po or not.

**[06:28:47.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006268)  
So, this is a very good program

**[06:28:49.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006269)  
kasi umalis po yung magulang

**[06:28:51.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006270)  
tapos nagtatrabaho.

**[06:28:53.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006271)  
So, parang supporta po para sa mga anak nila.

**[06:28:56.060] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006272)  
Yes po.

**[06:28:58.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006273)  
And yet, hindi po natin ito napopondohan.

**[06:29:00.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006274)  
And now, the DMW and the OWA

**[06:29:03.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006275)  
is reviving this program.

**[06:29:05.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006276)  
Tama po ba?

**[06:29:06.180] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006277)  
Yes po.

**[06:29:07.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006278)  
So, Madam Sponsor, meron ka trabaho.

**[06:29:10.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006279)  
We understand.

**[06:29:11.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006280)  
We have to support this program.

**[06:29:13.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006281)  
This is a very good program.

**[06:29:14.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006282)  
And this should be funded annually.

**[06:29:17.240] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006283)  
We agree with our distinguished colleague

**[06:29:20.840] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006284)  
at PAHAM.

**[06:29:21.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006285)  
And salamat po sa supporta.

**[06:29:23.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006286)  
Madam Speaker, I also wish to help the DMW

**[06:29:25.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006287)  
establish the record needed

**[06:29:27.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006288)  
for its separate priority requests.

**[06:29:31.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006289)  
I will focus on the unmet need,

**[06:29:33.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006290)  
implementation readiness, and safeguards.

**[06:29:36.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006291)  
So, Madam Speaker, through you,

**[06:29:38.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006292)  
may I ask our distinguished colleague

**[06:29:40.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006293)  
to explain what specific funding gap

**[06:29:42.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006294)  
the additional 1 billion for the Action Fund

**[06:29:44.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006295)  
will cover,

**[06:29:46.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006296)  
how many OFWs will be assisted

**[06:29:48.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006297)  
under each type of assistance,

**[06:29:50.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006298)  
and what is the target for the action fund.

**[06:29:51.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006299)  
And what is the target processing and release time?

**[06:30:00.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006300)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:30:16.600] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006301)  
the additional 1 billion pesos po for the Action Fund

**[06:30:20.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006302)  
would benefit about 20,000 OFWs at the minimum

**[06:30:24.500] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006303)  
from various services, legal, financial, or medical.

**[06:30:30.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006304)  
At ang target po ng disbursement ng mga assistance po

**[06:30:37.140] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006305)  
ay 30 days, although depende rin po yan

**[06:30:40.120] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006306)  
sa availability ng funds.

**[06:30:42.620] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006307)  
But the department is committed to delivering

**[06:30:48.040] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006308)  
the disbursement within 30 days po.

**[06:30:50.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006309)  
Ano-ano po ang klase ang assistance?

**[06:30:53.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006310)  
Legal, financial, or medical po.

**[06:30:56.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006311)  
And ang target processing time from application

**[06:30:59.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006312)  
is 30 days.

**[06:31:00.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006313)  
30 days po ang target.

**[06:31:03.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006314)  
Okay, Madam Speaker, through you,

**[06:31:07.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006315)  
may I also ask our Distinguished Colleague

**[06:31:09.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006316)  
to state, ano po ba ang corrective measures

**[06:31:13.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006317)  
that have already been implemented,

**[06:31:15.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006318)  
not merely proposed,

**[06:31:17.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006319)  
to address COAS findings on doubtful claims,

**[06:31:22.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006320)  
ineligible beneficiaries, incomplete documents,

**[06:31:24.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006321)  
and the absence of uniform classifications for illnesses.

**[06:31:29.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006322)  
Injuries and mental health cases.

**[06:31:34.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006323)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:31:37.100] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006324)  
Action Fund Information System is a COA recommendation

**[06:31:41.320] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006325)  
which is now being implemented.

**[06:31:44.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006326)  
And magdadagdag rin po ng mga amendments

**[06:31:46.540] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006327)  
to the existing guidelines,

**[06:31:49.920] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006328)  
as well as in compliance with the COA recommendations.

**[06:31:53.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006329)  
Yun po ang ginagawa po ng BMW ngayon.

**[06:31:57.180] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006330)  
Thank you.

**[06:31:59.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006331)  
Do you already have a system in place?

**[06:32:01.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006332)  
Yes, it's currently implemented.

**[06:32:02.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006333)  
And this is what?

**[06:32:03.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006334)  
This is digital?

**[06:32:05.380] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006335)  
Digitalized na po.

**[06:32:07.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006336)  
Are we using AI?

**[06:32:22.940] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006337)  
Yes, it's a digitalized system po.

**[06:32:26.080] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006338)  
And AI would be a good tool po.

**[06:32:29.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006339)  
To add safeguards and help with the verification po

**[06:32:34.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006340)  
of these double claims.

**[06:32:36.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006341)  
So mayroon na po tayong clearance from COA?

**[06:32:39.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006342)  
Or we are already addressing that?

**[06:32:42.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006343)  
Yes, it's implemented na po.

**[06:32:44.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006344)  
Okay.

**[06:32:45.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006345)  
Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[06:32:48.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006346)  
May I ask, the DMW also is requesting

**[06:32:51.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006347)  
60 million for OFW Servicio Ban, Caravan,

**[06:32:54.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006348)  
60 million for International Labor Affairs,

**[06:32:58.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006349)  
180 million for...

**[06:32:59.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006350)  
G, General Administration and Support Services,

**[06:33:03.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006351)  
and 700 million for Key Services.

**[06:33:06.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006352)  
For each component,

**[06:33:08.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006353)  
what exact 2027 output will be delivered?

**[06:33:11.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006354)  
How many OFWs will benefit?

**[06:33:14.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006355)  
And which items are already procurement ready

**[06:33:17.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006356)  
or implementation ready?

**[06:33:43.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006364)  
Lahat Distinguished colleague, Madam Speaker,

**[06:33:47.240] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006365)  
lahat po ay implementation ready na man na po.

**[06:33:50.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006366)  
At ang mga servisyo caravan,

**[06:33:53.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006367)  
ang target po at ang kaya,

**[06:33:55.460] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006368)  
ang capacity po na pwedeng ma...

**[06:33:58.620] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006369)  
or ang...

**[06:33:59.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006370)  
Pwede pong mag-benefit dito ay up to 100,000 po na OFWs dahil 20 different government agencies rin po ang nagbibigay po ng servisyo.

**[06:34:20.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006371)  
Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[06:34:22.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006372)  
Madam Sponsor, DMW's verification fees, fee revenues are already authorized under a special account.

**[06:34:38.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006373)  
For fiscal year 2026, Congress has already provided the authority in the GAA. No new congressional action is needed for each release.

**[06:34:47.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006374)  
What is required is for DMW to submit the proper budget request and for DBM to act on it.

**[06:34:52.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006375)  
So, Madam Speaker, may I ask our Distinguished Colleague, how much did DMW request from DBM for the verification fee fund for fiscal year 2026?

**[06:35:07.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006376)  
How much was actually released and how much remains pending or unreleased?

**[06:35:22.520] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006377)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, para po sa verification fee fund,

**[06:35:47.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006378)  
na bigyan po ang DMW ng P777 million.

**[06:35:52.520] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006379)  
Para po sa P777 million, ang requested po sana nila ay P826 million.

**[06:36:01.220] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006380)  
At as far as the utilization po, 100% utilized na po ang verification fee fund and that's around P580 million po for P2026.

**[06:36:15.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006381)  
Kunti na lang pala po, Madam Sponsor, from the request to what was actually given.

**[06:36:22.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006382)  
Was there any reason why they did not give what was actually requested?

**[06:36:35.840] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006383)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, unfortunately, meron pong mga ceiling din na set by DBM.

**[06:36:45.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006384)  
Ceiling?

**[06:36:46.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006385)  
But if you are doing, actually, wala dapat ceiling kung 100% utilized.

**[06:36:51.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006386)  
You were able to utilize 100%, correct?

**[06:36:59.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006387)  
And these are earmarked funds specifically intended for this use.

**[06:37:04.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006388)  
So kung ito po ay na-utilize natin at 100%, there is no reason for DBM not to give you the requested amount.

**[06:37:15.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006389)  
Actually, kung na-utilize po siya bago matapos yung fiscal year,

**[06:37:19.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006390)  
pwede, ang alam ko, pwede po kayo mag-request ulit.

**[06:37:24.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006391)  
And dapat ibigay po nila yun kasi yung earmarked funds are intended for you.

**[06:37:29.300] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006392)  
Yes po. Kaya po, tumaas rin po ng P777 million po from P580 million po last year.

**[06:37:40.080] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006393)  
For 2027, P777 million naman po.

**[06:37:44.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006394)  
But are you aware, Madam Sponsor, that the DMW, once na-utilize,

**[06:37:49.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006395)  
you may request again?

**[06:37:58.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006396)  
Kailan po nyo na-utilize at 100%?

**[06:38:19.760] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006397)  
As of July, or sorry, August 2026 po, utilized na po.

**[06:38:27.460] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006398)  
100% utilized na po.

**[06:38:29.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006399)  
And currently, yung ginagamit na lang po ay yung general fund, the P380 million.

**[06:38:34.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006400)  
Magkano pa po ang remaining sa earmarked funds ninyo?

**[06:38:38.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006401)  
100% utilized na po.

**[06:38:40.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006402)  
No, no, no. I mean, on the fund itself.

**[06:38:46.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006403)  
Hindi yung nagamit nyo at saka yung binigay.

**[06:38:48.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006404)  
Yung account.

**[06:38:49.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006405)  
Nung earmarked funds yun.

**[06:39:21.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006423)  
Parang as of 2025, tama po ba? Ang ending balance was 5.6 billion?

**[06:39:38.440] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006424)  
With the indulgence of our distinguished colleague and our sponsor, please wrap up.

**[06:39:44.900] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006425)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, currently po ang balance sa Treasury ay 4.36 billion po para po sa verification fee.

**[06:39:58.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006426)  
So yan po ang sinasabi natin, yung pera po under verification fees is sa inyo po yan.

**[06:40:05.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006427)  
And if naubos nyo na by July, yung 100%, ang sabi po ng DBM, pwede po kayo mag-request ulit.

**[06:40:14.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006428)  
So you still have 4.6 billion, pwede po kayo mag-request ulit para lang magamit para sa ating mga OFWs.

**[06:40:21.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006429)  
So in closing, Madam Speaker, our questions are intended to establish the basis for supporting these requests,

**[06:40:31.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006430)  
not to deprive the DMW and OWA of the resources they need.

**[06:40:37.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006431)  
Madam Speaker, CPBRD's figures show that DMW and OWA substantially improved their obligation and disbursement

**[06:40:44.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006432)  
performance in 2025. The remaining audit and implementation issues are being addressed

**[06:40:51.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006433)  
through stronger controls and accountability. Madam Speaker, subject to the specific outputs,

**[06:40:56.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006434)  
implementation schedules, safeguards, and quarterly reporting commitments placed on record,

**[06:41:02.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006435)  
I manifest my support for OWA's revised 2 billion request and DMW's separate 2 billion priority package.

**[06:41:10.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006436)  
Madam Speaker, these are not luxuries.

**[06:41:14.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006437)  
They are needed for emergency repatriation, welfare and legal assistance, lawyers and doctors reintegration,

**[06:41:21.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006438)  
the OFW hospital, safer offices, frontline overseas operations, seafarer and airport facilities,

**[06:41:29.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006439)  
skills upgrading, and scholarships for OFW children.

**[06:41:34.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006440)  
So Madam Speaker, I respectfully urge the favorable consideration of these priority requests

**[06:41:41.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006441)  
with the assurance that every peso must be translated.

**[06:41:44.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006442)  
into actual service for OFWs and their families.

**[06:41:48.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-006443)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[06:41:51.300] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006444)  
Majority Leader.

**[06:41:53.440] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006445)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Sarah Jane Elago to interpolate the sponsor.

**[06:41:59.240] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006446)  
The Honorable Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party List is hereby recognized for her interpolation.

**[06:42:08.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006447)  
Maraming salamat Madam Speaker.

**[06:42:10.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006448)  
I'd like to start with the introduction.

**[06:42:14.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006449)  
Increase of minimum wages for Filipino domestic helpers.

**[06:42:19.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006450)  
In August 2025, Madam Speaker, the DMW issued Advisory No. 25, Series of 2025,

**[06:42:29.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006451)  
increasing the minimum wage for migrant domestic helpers from 400 U.S. dollars to 500 U.S. dollars.

**[06:42:36.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006452)  
Aside from incorporating the new minimum wage into the employment contracts processed by the DMW,

**[06:42:44.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006453)  
the advisory also directed migrant workers' offices to engage with host governments and foreign recruitment agencies

**[06:42:51.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006454)  
to ensure that the new minimum wage is implemented in their respective countries.

**[06:42:57.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006455)  
Aside from incorporating the increased minimum wage into the employment contracts processed by the DMW,

**[06:43:06.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006456)  
may we know from the distinguished sponsor, how does the DMW ensure that migrant workers are actually paid,

**[06:43:13.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006457)  
at least the minimum monthly wage mandated under Advisory No. 25?

**[06:43:28.240] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006458)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:43:31.300] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006459)  
lahat po ng mga kontrata ay rinireview at meron din po tayo mga labor attaches on ground para po i-address po itong mga concerns ito.

**[06:43:43.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006460)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[06:43:45.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006461)  
At kung meron po tayong active monitoring, listahan ng mga kaso at ang status nito, ay hihingin din po ng ating representasyon.

**[06:43:53.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006462)  
Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, sa iba pong mahalaga din na concern,

**[06:43:58.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006463)  
ang pagdademand ng child support from an OFW parent.

**[06:44:03.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006464)  
The Philippines has been a party to the Convention on the International Recovery of Child Support and Other Forms of Family Maintenance.

**[06:44:13.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006465)  
Madam Speaker, while the central authority of the Philippines for this particular convention is the Department of Social Welfare and Development,

**[06:44:22.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006466)  
may we know what the role of the DMW is in implementing this obligation?

**[06:44:43.480] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006467)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:44:52.060] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006468)  
every time po meron claims for child support para po sa ating mga OFWs.

**[06:45:00.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006469)  
CMW po, sinusummon po ang ating OFW at we direct them to our legal attachés or our labor attachés para po magampanan nila yung kailangan nilang ibigay na child support.

**[06:45:20.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006470)  
Madam Speaker, what particular item in the budget is used for this assistance for those demanding child or spousal support from an OFW parent?

**[06:45:50.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006471)  
Distinguished Colleague, ito po ay nagagaling sa Labor Attachés Welfare Services Fund. Yun po nagagaling ang pondo.

**[06:46:04.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006472)  
Maraming salamat po. Paano naman po yung mga lugar na wala pong Migrant Workers Office? What about those jurisdictions?

**[06:46:12.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006473)  
How do you coordinate with the Department of Foreign Affairs and other relevant agencies to help?

**[06:46:19.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006474)  
With this matter.

**[06:46:23.420] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006475)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, we work closely po with DFA at ang ating mga embassies sa mga lugar na wala po tayong mga MWOs with their assistance to nationals units.

**[06:46:43.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006476)  
Maraming salamat Madam Speaker. At nasilip din po natin sa DFA na mababa yung utilization.

**[06:46:49.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006477)  
Nang assistance to nationals.

**[06:46:51.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006478)  
Samantalang sa amin din pong mga lumalapit sa ating office, marami din pong mga nangangailangan pa sana ng mga assistance.

**[06:46:59.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006479)  
Kaya po sana po, bukod dun sa close coordination, yung pondo na nandyan na at nakalaan para sa ganitong tipo ng mga assistance ay magamit natin para makatulong.

**[06:47:10.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006480)  
Now Madam Chair, under the Expanded Solo Parent Act, the spouse, family member, or guardian of the child of an OFW,

**[06:47:19.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006481)  
who falls under low or semi-skilled worker category, is considered a solo parent.

**[06:47:26.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006482)  
In supporting our migrant workers, does the DMW have programs that also assist solo parents?

**[06:47:34.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006483)  
Paari po ba natin malaman kung ano yung mga espesipiko na programa na ito?

**[06:47:41.820] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006484)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:47:46.820] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006485)  
currently the department addresses these cases.

**[06:47:49.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006486)  
Through a combination of family support, livelihood, employment, and referral services.

**[06:47:56.400] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006487)  
And under Kalinga, solo parents and primary caregivers may access psychosocial and family-oriented interventions.

**[06:48:05.880] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006488)  
Under Kabuhayan, they may be matched with livelihood or employment pathways suited to their caregiving responsibilities.

**[06:48:14.040] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006489)  
Where additional social services are needed,

**[06:48:17.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006490)  
Kaagapay and the National Reintegration,

**[06:48:19.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006491)  
allow DMW to refer the solo parent to appropriate partner agencies.

**[06:48:26.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006492)  
So far, 78 beneficiaries po na bigyan sa 2025 at 326 beneficiaries po sa 2026.

**[06:48:36.480] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006493)  
Yan po ang mga programa.

**[06:48:38.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006494)  
Ang nabanggit ng mga programa, Madam Speaker, malaki din po yung hiningi ng DMW, ng OWA para sa mga ito.

**[06:48:44.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006495)  
Ngunit, hindi pa rin po sapat talaga dun sa laki ng pangangailangan,

**[06:48:48.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006496)  
yung lalaan na pondo.

**[06:48:49.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006497)  
Kaya, kung may pagkakataon na taasan yung pondo ng mga proyekto na ito,

**[06:48:55.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006498)  
ay susuportahan ng ating representasyon.

**[06:48:57.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006499)  
Ngayon naman po, nabanggit din po kanina ng mga nauna sa atin,

**[06:49:01.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006500)  
yung tungkol sa halaga ng ating mga reintegration programs.

**[06:49:05.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006501)  
May we know from the distinguished sponsor,

**[06:49:08.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006502)  
what the particular programs are of DMW and OWA,

**[06:49:13.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006503)  
specifically intended for older migrant workers.

**[06:49:18.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006504)  
We have programs that specifically address a retirement and other post-employment support.

**[06:50:05.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006506)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[06:50:08.120] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006507)  
for older returnees, DMW combines financial literacy, livelihood support, skills transition, mentoring,

**[06:50:17.860] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006508)  
employment,

**[06:50:18.600] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006509)  
facilitation, and social protection referrals,

**[06:50:21.540] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006510)  
depending on the worker's capacity and plans.

**[06:50:25.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006511)  
The programs under Kaalaman can help the OFW acquire or adapt skills,

**[06:50:32.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006512)  
while Kabuhayan offers livelihood and entrepreneurship pathways.

**[06:50:38.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006513)  
FAS-SBMT, or Financial Awareness and Small Business Mentoring Training,

**[06:50:43.380] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006514)  
is also relevant for older returnees who wish to manage

**[06:50:48.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006515)  
savings or transition into small enterprise.

**[06:50:51.680] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006516)  
And so far, it's served 4,100 beneficiaries in 2024.

**[06:50:56.700] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006517)  
In 2025, 11,138 beneficiaries.

**[06:51:02.860] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006518)  
And so far, from January to August of 2026, 7,309 beneficiaries po ito.

**[06:51:10.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006519)  
At sa OWA naman po,

**[06:51:12.400] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006520)  
ito po.

**[06:51:18.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006521)  
At sa OWA naman po,

**[06:51:21.680] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006522)  
ang mga reintegration services rin naman nila,

**[06:51:24.600] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006523)  
nakapag-natulungan po ang 410,591 families in 2025.

**[06:51:39.140] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006524)  
OFWs and their families po.

**[06:51:41.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006525)  
So kasama po dyan ang Family Development Support Program,

**[06:51:45.120] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006526)  
Capacity Building for LG Europe Peso,

**[06:51:48.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006527)  
Enhanced EDT and Demo Farm Visitation,

**[06:51:53.140] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006528)  
iba-iba po ang mga programa.

**[06:51:56.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006529)  
Now, Madam Speaker, kung meron po ang ating DMW at OWA

**[06:52:00.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006530)  
ng detalye batay sa edad, sa kapasidad,

**[06:52:04.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006531)  
sa profesyon,

**[06:52:05.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006532)  
ay mainam po ito para makatulong po sa ating mga tinatalakay ngayon

**[06:52:10.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006533)  
ng mga panukalang batas.

**[06:52:12.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006534)  
Yung isa dyan ay yung pagpapalakas ng mga reintegration program.

**[06:52:15.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006535)  
Pero meron po dyan isang probesyon na,

**[06:52:18.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006536)  
hindi pa naisama, na sa tingin ko po ay isa sa mga panawagan

**[06:52:22.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006537)  
ng ating mga bumalik na mga OFWs.

**[06:52:26.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006538)  
May we know, Madam Speaker, what the positions of DMW and OWA are

**[06:52:31.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006539)  
on establishing a retirement fund for OFWs

**[06:52:35.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006540)  
who are no longer able to work

**[06:52:38.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006541)  
or have reached a certain age at which they can no longer perform their jobs?

**[06:52:48.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006542)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:53:01.880] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006543)  
currently po ang DMW nagpapartner po with SSS

**[06:53:10.180] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006544)  
para po makapag-establish ang mga pension funds

**[06:53:14.540] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006545)  
para po sa ating mga retiring OFWs.

**[06:53:17.820] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006546)  
And at the same time,

**[06:53:18.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006547)  
they are also helping develop legislation

**[06:53:21.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006548)  
para po may sa batas na ang ating retirement funds for our OFWs.

**[06:53:30.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006549)  
Ito ay sinusuportahan ng buong-buo ng DMW at OWA, Madam Speaker.

**[06:53:35.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006550)  
Yes.

**[06:53:36.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006551)  
At ngayon naman, Madam Speaker,

**[06:53:38.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006552)  
napakahalaga rin po nito sa atin

**[06:53:40.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006553)  
ang mabalitaan tayo tungkol sa implementation

**[06:53:42.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006554)  
ng Magna Carta for seafarers.

**[06:53:47.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006555)  
Yes.

**[06:53:47.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006556)  
Has DMW started implementing the Magna Carta?

**[06:53:51.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006557)  
If yes, what has DMW changed in its policies and regulations

**[06:53:57.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006558)  
because of this Magna Carta?

**[06:54:00.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006559)  
May we also know what the challenges are

**[06:54:04.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006560)  
in terms of the implementation of this Magna Carta,

**[06:54:08.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006561)  
especially now that we're in the first year of its implementation?

**[06:54:17.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006562)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:54:21.580] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006563)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:54:25.140] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006564)  
so far po ang DMW nag-issue po ng sea-based

**[06:54:29.220] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006565)  
or nag-update po ng pag-issue ng sea-based rules

**[06:54:32.960] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006566)  
at na-standardize yun po ang mga kontrata

**[06:54:35.400] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006567)  
ng ating mga seafarers at the same time,

**[06:54:38.460] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006568)  
ang fisher folks po.

**[06:54:40.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006569)  
Nag-update, ibig sabihin po,

**[06:54:42.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006570)  
ongoing yung ating shipping?

**[06:54:46.140] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006571)  
Yeah.

**[06:54:47.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006572)  
Issued last June po.

**[06:54:49.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006573)  
It was issued June this year?

**[06:54:51.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006574)  
Yes.

**[06:54:52.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006575)  
Alright.

**[06:54:52.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006576)  
And has already been issued.

**[06:54:54.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006577)  
Alright.

**[06:54:55.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006578)  
Now, mangingin na lang po tayo ng ulat,

**[06:54:58.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006579)  
ng pinakauling ulat dito ng DMW

**[06:55:01.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006580)  
kung kumusta na ang ating Magna Carta.

**[06:55:05.620] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006581)  
We will provide the report.

**[06:55:07.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006582)  
Yes.

**[06:55:09.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006583)  
Nais ko lang din pong maibahagi sa ating kapulungan.

**[06:55:13.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006584)  
Naging vocal din po ang aming representation

**[06:55:15.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006585)  
mula sa Gabriela Women's Party.

**[06:55:17.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006586)  
Tungkol sa provision ng Magna Carta na ito,

**[06:55:21.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006587)  
kung saan po yung monetary reward

**[06:55:24.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006588)  
of the seafarers are put in escrow

**[06:55:27.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006589)  
pending the finality of judgment

**[06:55:29.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006590)  
which can take years.

**[06:55:31.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006591)  
So, that particular provision,

**[06:55:34.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006592)  
sa tingin po natin,

**[06:55:35.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006593)  
dapat ding ma-review ng kapulungan na ito.

**[06:55:39.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006594)  
At makakatulong po yung inyong implementation so far

**[06:55:43.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006595)  
para makita ba natin kung dapat po itong tanggalin,

**[06:55:47.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006596)  
dito sa batas na ito.

**[06:55:52.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006597)  
Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker,

**[06:55:55.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006598)  
tungkol po sa naiulat na blacklisting

**[06:55:58.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006599)  
ng mga seafarers

**[06:56:00.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006600)  
kapag sila po ay nag-a-avail ng kanilang right to refuse sailing.

**[06:56:05.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006601)  
Nakarating po sa ating office na kapag sila daw po,

**[06:56:08.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006602)  
dalawang bagay, no.

**[06:56:11.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006603)  
Una, may mga pagkakataon daw po

**[06:56:13.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006604)  
na hindi nila ma-exercise itong kanilang karapatan,

**[06:56:17.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006605)  
ng kanilang right to refuse sailing.

**[06:56:18.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006606)  
Dahil pag majority daw po ng mga seafarer

**[06:56:21.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006607)  
ay bumoto na tumuloy pa rin,

**[06:56:23.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006608)  
ay tumutuloy pa rin sila

**[06:56:25.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006609)  
na hindi po nasasangalang yung kanilang karapatan na tumanggi.

**[06:56:32.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006610)  
Ngayon, yung pangalawa naman po,

**[06:56:34.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006611)  
ay kapag sila ay nag-a-avail,

**[06:56:36.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006612)  
nag-exercise po ng kanilang right to refuse sailing,

**[06:56:38.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006613)  
pagbalik po nila dito sa Pilipinas at aalis na,

**[06:56:42.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006614)  
ay nalalaman po nila na sila ay blacklisted na.

**[06:56:46.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006615)  
Meron pong,

**[06:56:47.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006616)  
statement ang DMW tungkol dito

**[06:56:51.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006617)  
at wini-welcome naman po ng ating representation.

**[06:56:54.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006618)  
The DMW called for Filipino seafarers

**[06:56:57.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006619)  
who refuse to sail to high-risk areas

**[06:57:00.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006620)  
not to be discriminated against in future employment.

**[06:57:05.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006621)  
They must also receive proper compensation

**[06:57:07.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006622)  
and free repatriation to the Philippines.

**[06:57:11.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006623)  
May we know po what the DMW has done so far.

**[06:57:17.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006624)  
To ensure that the Filipinos won't be discriminated against

**[06:57:22.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006625)  
when they exercise their right to refuse sailing.

**[06:57:27.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006626)  
Especially po in high-risk areas now.

**[06:57:29.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006627)  
Thank you.

**[06:57:45.280] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006628)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:57:46.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006629)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:57:47.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006630)  
So for the manning agencies na meron pong mga violations,

**[06:57:52.080] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006631)  
DMW would subject them to an investigation

**[06:57:57.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006632)  
and also subject them to violation fees.

**[06:58:06.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006633)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:58:06.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006634)  
pag meron ba silang violation,

**[06:58:08.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006635)  
ano pong mangyayari?

**[06:58:09.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006636)  
Bawal na po silang pag-operate?

**[06:58:10.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006637)  
Masasara po ba?

**[06:58:12.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006638)  
Masususpend muna?

**[06:58:16.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006639)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:58:21.460] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006640)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:58:23.260] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006641)  
Pwede po masuspend ang manning agency

**[06:58:26.500] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006642)  
at kung paulit-ulit po

**[06:58:28.500] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006643)  
or patuloy pa rin po ang violation,

**[06:58:30.960] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006644)  
pwede pong makancel po ang kanilang lisensya.

**[06:58:33.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006645)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:58:35.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006646)  
ano po yung basis po natin

**[06:58:37.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006647)  
ng ganitong tipo ng mga

**[06:58:38.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006648)  
prov, penalties,

**[06:58:41.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006649)  
standards at saka yung graduated penalties po

**[06:58:45.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006650)  
na nabanggit po ninyo.

**[06:58:48.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006651)  
Saan po natin yan makikita?

**[06:59:01.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006652)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:59:02.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006653)  
distinguished colleagues,

**[06:59:04.580] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006654)  
ito po ay base sa

**[06:59:05.840] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006655)  
sea-based rules po na

**[06:59:07.820] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006656)  
in-issue natin noong

**[06:59:09.560] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006657)  
June 2026 lang po.

**[06:59:12.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006658)  
And so far,

**[06:59:13.100] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006659)  
1,300 po

**[06:59:16.420] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006660)  
Filipino seafarers

**[06:59:17.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006661)  
refused to sail

**[06:59:20.080] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006662)  
or traverse.

**[06:59:21.160] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006663)  
Ito po ang so far.

**[06:59:24.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006664)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[06:59:27.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006665)  
Bukod po sa ganyang information,

**[06:59:28.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006666)  
nahihingin din po natin sa ating

**[06:59:30.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006667)  
mga departamento, nandito rin po

**[06:59:33.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006668)  
yung ulat na

**[06:59:34.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006669)  
yung karapatan po ng mga seafarer

**[06:59:37.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006670)  
na malaman kung saan po yung

**[06:59:39.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006671)  
ruta na dadaanan ng kanilang

**[06:59:40.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006672)  
mga vessels. Marami daw po

**[06:59:42.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006673)  
hindi binibigay sa kanilang information

**[06:59:45.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006674)  
till nakasakay na sila.

**[06:59:47.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006675)  
In fact po, nakatanggap din po

**[06:59:49.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006676)  
tayo na balita na

**[06:59:50.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006677)  
yung

**[06:59:51.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006678)  
masakit po sa loob na

**[06:59:55.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006679)  
namatay, nasi-farers

**[06:59:57.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006680)  
na taga Calamba, Laguna,

**[06:59:59.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006681)  
hindi po

**[07:00:00.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006682)  
kung nila alam ang ruta ng barko, nasa war zones, nasa high-risk areas po pala dadaan.

**[07:00:05.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006683)  
So yung ganito pong karapatan ng ating mga seafarer,

**[07:00:08.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006684)  
dapat matiyak po natin na masasakatuparan at hindi pangarap lamang para sa ating mga seafarers.

**[07:00:18.240] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006685)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[07:00:21.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006686)  
kung meron pong violations or kung meron pong mga sitwasyon na hindi po alam ng ating seafarer kung totoong ruta,

**[07:00:30.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006687)  
ng kanilang pupuntuhan, pwede pong isubject po ng DMW into investigation, again, ang violators po.

**[07:00:40.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006688)  
Ngayon, Madam Speaker, narinig po natin yung mga nag-exercise ng kanilang right to refuse sailing.

**[07:00:46.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006689)  
Pwede niyo po ba kami i-update kung sa ngayon po, yung mga seafarers na gustong makauwi, ay nakauwi na po ba?

**[07:00:54.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006690)  
Ilang request po yung inyong natanggap?

**[07:00:57.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006691)  
Tapos po, yung bilang din po ng mga seafarers na nakauwi na,

**[07:01:05.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006692)  
ingin po sana ng representation na ito yung breakdown.

**[07:01:09.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006693)  
Pagkatapos po ng ating deliberation, ay yung hapon.

**[07:01:12.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006694)  
Yes, we will oblige.

**[07:01:14.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006695)  
Maraming maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

**[07:01:16.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006696)  
At muli, ang representation po na ito ay sumusuporta sa pagdadagdag ng pondo para sa Action Fund.

**[07:01:25.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006697)  
Noway yung mga hindi pa po nakakakuha.

**[07:01:27.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006698)  
Ang kanilang mga Action Fund ay makakuha na.

**[07:01:29.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006699)  
Alam ko po, hindi madali ang sitwasyon, hindi lang dito sa bansa, kundi sa pandaig dito.

**[07:01:36.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006700)  
Kaya nga, kinakailangan at maasam po natin, habang tinataasan yung suporta para sa mga migrant workers,

**[07:01:43.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006701)  
dapat higit natin tinataasan yung suporta para sa disenting trabaho dito sa Pilipinas,

**[07:01:49.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006702)  
nakabubuhay na sahod para sa ating mga manggagawang Pilipinas.

**[07:01:52.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-006703)  
Maraming maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor.

**[07:01:57.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006704)  
Maraming salamat.

**[07:02:01.480] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006705)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:02:03.300] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006706)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Dada Kiramizmula to interpolate the sponsor.

**[07:02:09.320] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006707)  
The Honorable Dada Kiramizmula of Partilistak Bayan is hereby recognized for her interpolation.

**[07:02:17.180] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006708)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

**[07:02:20.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006709)  
Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu.

**[07:02:23.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006710)  
I have a few questions on the mass deportations.

**[07:02:27.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006711)  
of Filipinos in the United States.

**[07:02:30.780] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006712)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor, my office has received reports

**[07:02:35.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006713)  
ng ating mga Filipino seafarers na under sa Magsaysay Maritime Corporation

**[07:02:42.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006714)  
at nagtatrabaho sa Princess Cruises Limited ay sinearch ng walang warrant.

**[07:02:50.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006715)  
Kinukuha ang kanilang mga gamit gaya ng cellphone

**[07:02:53.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006716)  
at inaakusahan ng krimen ng walang due process at ebidensya.

**[07:02:57.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006717)  
Sa parehong linggo, sila ay dinedeport, pabalik sa Pilipinas.

**[07:03:06.620] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006718)  
Paulit-ulit na nangyayari ito bilang bahagi ng operational tidal wave ng Trump government sa US.

**[07:03:15.500] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006719)  
Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, what is the DMW's response to the mass deportations of Filipino seafarers

**[07:03:24.540] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006720)  
in the United States under operational tidal wave?

**[07:03:27.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006721)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, habang rinerespeto po ng DMW ang sovereignty at mga batas ng ibang bansa,

**[07:03:42.600] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006722)  
nananatiling pong committed ang ating Philippine government para protektahan ang mga karapatan,

**[07:03:49.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006723)  
ang welfare and due process ng ating mga Filipino seafarers.

**[07:03:54.700] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006724)  
Lalong-lalo na po sa mga ganitong sitwasyon.

**[07:03:57.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006725)  
We must also distinguish among an allegation, an immigration action, and a criminal filing.

**[07:04:07.240] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006726)  
The department will not prejudge the cases of our returning seafarers,

**[07:04:12.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006727)  
particularly when no criminal charge or conviction has been established.

**[07:04:18.360] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006728)  
The DMW's responsibility is to ensure that affected workers receive appropriate assistance,

**[07:04:24.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006729)  
that their cases are properly documented,

**[07:04:27.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006730)  
and that the necessary coordination is undertaken with the relevant Philippine and foreign authorities,

**[07:04:35.160] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006731)  
consistent with the applicable laws and procedures.

**[07:04:39.420] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006732)  
We have also consulted the licensed manning agencies and their deported seafarers and provided them with assistance.

**[07:04:48.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006733)  
Maraming salamat po dito.

**[07:04:50.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006734)  
Paano po kaya nakikipag-ugnayan ang DMW sa Philippine Embassy sa US

**[07:04:55.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006735)  
para matiyak na may legal aid ang ating mga kababayan?

**[07:05:01.560] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006736)  
Patuloy po ang pakikipag-ugnayan ng DMW with the Department of Foreign Affairs

**[07:05:08.500] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006737)  
sa ating mga migrant workers offices at sa mga kaukulang US authorities

**[07:05:13.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006738)  
upang mas maunawaan ang mga pangyayari at circumstances surrounding the removals.

**[07:05:21.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006739)  
Tinitiyak din po natin na ang mga affected seafarers ay,

**[07:05:25.880] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006740)  
maayos na nare-refer para sa kinakailangan mga welfare, legal, at iba pang mga assistance.

**[07:05:34.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006741)  
Yun na po, ilan na po yan sa mga assistance at support na kaya pong ibigay ng DMW.

**[07:05:43.180] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006742)  
Maraming salamat po Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

**[07:05:46.960] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006743)  
Nakakalungkot no na we've received reports from some of the seafarers.

**[07:05:52.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006744)  
Actually, dumaan po sila sa aking opisina kamakailan.

**[07:05:55.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006745)  
Who were detained before deportation that when they called the Philippine Embassy to the US,

**[07:06:02.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006746)  
the response was, okay lang yan, makakalaya ka naman, diba?

**[07:06:09.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006747)  
Does DMW share the same opinion?

**[07:06:25.880] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006748)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, currently po tinatrabaho po ito ng DMW

**[07:06:32.580] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006749)  
para po ma-make sure, or coordinated with, of course, the Manning Agency

**[07:06:39.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006750)  
para po meron pang, merong legal assistance po, supports pa lang.

**[07:06:46.900] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006751)  
Yun po ang aksyon na ginagawa ng DMW.

**[07:06:49.600] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006752)  
Maraming salamat at naniniwala ako sa DMW na ito'y tutugunan nila.

**[07:06:54.760] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006753)  
Nakakalungkot.

**[07:06:55.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006754)  
Kasi currently, nasa mahigit dalawang daang seafarers na po ang nagkaroon ng ganitong problema.

**[07:07:03.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006755)  
Yung tinatawag nilang operational tidal wave.

**[07:07:07.740] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006756)  
Kamakailan ay naglabas na po sila ng kanilang press release patungkol dito sa nangyari sa kanila.

**[07:07:15.620] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006757)  
Kasi wala po eh, walang nagre-report, hindi po ito lumalabas sa media.

**[07:07:19.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006758)  
At ang masaklap pa, sasabihan po sila ng ating embahada na nasa US na,

**[07:07:25.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006759)  
okay lang yan, makakalaya ka naman.

**[07:07:29.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006760)  
Saklap, di ba?

**[07:07:30.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006761)  
Umalis ako ng aking bansa, pupunta ako para maging isang seafarer,

**[07:07:36.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006762)  
malalaman ko na lang na ako'y ipapababa at ako'y ipapadeport,

**[07:07:40.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006763)  
pero idedetain pa ako at popusasan pa ako ng ilang oras, no?

**[07:07:45.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006764)  
So, sana po ay matugunan po natin ito sa lalong madaling panahon, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

**[07:07:55.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006765)  
Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, magkano po kaya ang na-dispersed na mula sa Action Fund

**[07:08:01.740] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006766)  
para sa mga Pilipinong biktima ng mass deportations na walang due process?

**[07:08:09.060] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006767)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, so far 222 seafarers have been deported

**[07:08:16.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006768)  
and each were given 50,000 pesos in financial assistance under the Action Fund.

**[07:08:24.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006769)  
So, total po, 11.1 million po ang na-dispersed galing sa Action Fund.

**[07:08:32.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006770)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[07:08:33.860] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006771)  
My office also received reports that there are instances wherein six months since the seafarer has returned to the Philippines,

**[07:08:43.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006772)  
hindi pa rin narirelease ang Action Fund sa nasabing seafarers.

**[07:08:47.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006773)  
Madam Sponsor, what is the reason kaya behind this?

**[07:08:54.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006774)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, again, the reasoning behind the delay is because of the Middle East tensions

**[07:09:01.640] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006775)  
and unfortunately po yun ang nag-cause ng delay but right now, DMW is catching up

**[07:09:07.600] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006776)  
and we're committed to going back to the 30-day disbursement po ng assistance for our OFWs.

**[07:09:18.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006777)  
Just to put into record lang, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, can the DMW commit to ensure

**[07:09:24.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006778)  
the expedient release of, or hindi lalagpas ng 30 days from today po?

**[07:09:32.240] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006779)  
Yes po, makakaasa po kayo.

**[07:09:33.940] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006780)  
Maraming salamat po, no?

**[07:09:35.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006781)  
And finally, can the Distinguished Sponsor explain to us po, ano itong tinatawag nilang Abu Dhabi Dialogue at bakit ito mahalaga?

**[07:10:10.380] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006782)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, the Abu Dhabi Dialogue was established in 2028

**[07:10:17.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006783)  
at ito po ay isang voluntary inter-government consultative forum

**[07:10:23.220] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006784)  
linking Asian countries of labor origin and destination

**[07:10:27.500] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006785)  
and it aims to enable safe, orderly, and regular migration. Currently po, mayroon po siyang 10 member states including the Gulf States po.

**[07:10:41.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006786)  
At magkano po kaya ang nakalaan pondo para dito?

**[07:10:54.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006787)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, currently wala po siyang allotment sa NEP.

**[07:11:01.320] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006788)  
That's why nag-manifest po ang DMW ng kanilang request for 60 million pesos po

**[07:11:07.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006789)  
to host at least three conferences po para sa Abu Dhabi Dialogue.

**[07:11:18.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006790)  
60 million pesos.

**[07:11:20.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006791)  
And ang Pilipinas ang host po para dito.

**[07:11:23.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006792)  
Tama po ba?

**[07:11:24.520] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006793)  
Yes.

**[07:11:25.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006795)  
Kakalungkot no na host pa naman tayo pero wala tayong pondo para dito at napaka-importante po pala nito.

**[07:11:32.980] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006796)  
Sinusuportahan ng representasyong ito ang paglalaan ng pondo para sa Abu Dhabi Dialogue.

**[07:11:39.640] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006797)  
Mahalaga ang pondong ito upang maipagpatuloy ang mga programa para sa pagsasanay,

**[07:11:46.600] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006798)  
proteksyon at mas maayos na kapakanan ng ating mga OFWs at iba pang migrant workers sa Middle East.

**[07:11:54.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006799)  
And in closing, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, thank you for yielding into my questions.

**[07:12:02.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006800)  
Nais kong muling ipahayag ang aking panawagan noong budget briefing na sa gitna ng umiiral na global conflict,

**[07:12:10.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006801)  
mas higit nating kailangan ang matatag na DMW at OWA na may sapat na pondo upang matugunan ang pangangailangan ng ating mga overseas Filipino workers.

**[07:12:23.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006802)  
I therefore manifest...

**[07:12:24.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006803)  
I express my strong support for increasing the budget of the DMW and OWA,

**[07:12:30.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006804)  
particularly with the repatriation program and assistance programs to distressed OFWs,

**[07:12:37.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006805)  
with the guarantee na masiguro ng DMW ang mabilis, maayos at sapat na tulong sa ating mga kababayang OFWs sa oras ng pangangailangan.

**[07:12:49.960] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006806)  
Nakikita natin ang epekto pag nagagawa ng isang ahensya,

**[07:12:53.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006807)  
ang kanilang mandato, which is evident sa mga nagagawa ng ating DMW Region 9,

**[07:13:01.700] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006808)  
gaya ng pagtatayo ng First Regional OFW Airport Lounge outside na IA at First Regional Dedicated OFW Ward na sana ay magawa rin sa iba pang mga regyon.

**[07:13:15.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006809)  
Naniniwala ako na sa gabay at tinig ng ating distinguished sponsor, this August Chamber will favorably...

**[07:13:23.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006810)  
consider and strengthen the department's budget, particularly for these vital programs.

**[07:13:30.380] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-006811)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat, Madam Sponsor.

**[07:13:34.660] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006812)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:13:37.420] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-006813)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Honorable Iris Montes, 4K Partylist, to interpelate on the proposed budget of the DMW.

**[07:13:51.500] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006814)  
The Honorable Montes is recognized for her interpelation.

**[07:13:53.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006815)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[07:13:56.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006816)  
Ilang katanungan lamang po mula sa kababaihan, kabalikatan para sa kapakanan at kaunlaran ng bayan.

**[07:14:03.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006817)  
Women consistently account for the majority of newly deployed land-based overseas Filipino workers,

**[07:14:11.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006818)  
predominantly in domestic care work, a sector inherently prone to isolation, abuse, and labor exploitation.

**[07:14:20.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006819)  
Under the proposed 2027 budget,

**[07:14:23.260] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006820)  
how much of the agarang kalinga at saklolo para sa mga OFW na nangangailangan or action fund is explicitly sub-allocated

**[07:14:33.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006821)  
for immediate legal intervention, medical treatment, and physical rescue of abused female domestic workers?

**[07:14:52.500] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006824)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, as of now po, ang action fund ay ready po na ma-

**[07:15:00.000] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006825)  
The entire fund is ready to be used for any cases para po sa kahit sinong OFW na nangangailangan.

**[07:15:08.980] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006826)  
So far po, over 50% ay actually nabigay po para sa ating mga kababaihan na OFWs.

**[07:15:16.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006827)  
50% po yung halos ang naibigay mo.

**[07:15:19.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006828)  
More than 50%.

**[07:15:20.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006829)  
More than. Kasi mas marami nga po sila.

**[07:15:23.320] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006830)  
I remember during the last budget hearing, I specifically requested po talaga sa DMW to have a sex disaggregated data.

**[07:15:35.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006831)  
Isa po yan sa concern ko na talagang dapat ma-disaggregate yung data para alam po natin at magkano din po ang ilalaan.

**[07:15:43.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006832)  
Kasi marami po talaga sila para natutugunan po natin yung pangangailangan nila.

**[07:15:49.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006833)  
My next question po, under RA 9710.

**[07:15:53.320] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006834)  
or the Magna Carta of Women, government agencies are required to protect women in specially difficult circumstances.

**[07:16:00.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006835)  
Out of the total operational budget of the migrant workers' offices and runaway shelters overseas,

**[07:16:08.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006836)  
what specific line item is allocated to ensure that these shelters have trauma-informed female personnel,

**[07:16:19.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006837)  
dedicated mental health professionals,

**[07:16:22.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006838)  
and gender...

**[07:16:23.320] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006839)  
gender-sensitive facilities?

**[07:16:25.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006840)  
Siguro po, kahit including mga gender-sensitive professionals din po, like yung mga gynecologists and the like.

**[07:16:47.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006841)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[07:16:50.660] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006842)  
ang pondo po na ginagamit,

**[07:16:52.160] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006843)  
or specific line item po ay ang ating Migrant Workers Resource Centers at ang ating Labor Attachés Fund.

**[07:17:03.500] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006844)  
Yun po ang pinanggagalingan.

**[07:17:05.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006845)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[07:17:10.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006846)  
Uso po ngayon, ang dami po ngayong mga digital job scams and human trafficking rings continue to target young, vulnerable women,

**[07:17:21.320] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006847)  
especially in rural areas, ano, for illegal placement in cyber fraud hubs across Southeast Asia.

**[07:17:29.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006848)  
Ano po, meron po, bawat direct budget allocation is set aside in the 2027 budget

**[07:17:35.520] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006849)  
under the Illegal Recruitment Combat Directorates to expand anti-trafficking law enforcement and digital monitoring down to the LGU level.

**[07:17:49.180] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006850)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[07:17:51.160] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006851)  
so far po, para po sa mga illegal recruitment, meron po tayong 18 million po na pondo na nakalaan po para dito.

**[07:18:03.220] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006852)  
18 million, yes.

**[07:18:04.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006853)  
18 million lamang po ang pondo para dyan?

**[07:18:08.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006854)  
Opo.

**[07:18:10.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006855)  
Isang napakalaking problema po meron tayo ngayon tungkol dyan sa mga digital job scams na yan,

**[07:18:17.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006856)  
tapos 18 million lang po ang nakalaan na pondo.

**[07:18:21.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006857)  
Siguro dapat po ay mahiling po natin na madagdagan po ang pondong iyan kasi napakalaki po ng hinaharap na problema ngayon ng DMW din tungkol dyan.

**[07:18:35.700] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006858)  
Yes po, kaya po kasama rin po sa manifestation ng DMW,

**[07:18:40.640] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006859)  
ang additional funding po na hiningi nila for 2 billion pesos ay syempre po parte po ng mailalaan po para sa legal recruitment and illegal,

**[07:18:50.800] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006860)  
or anti-trafficking efforts po.

**[07:18:53.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006861)  
Thank you, Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[07:18:56.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006862)  
A major driver of repeated migration cycles among women is the absence of viable domestic economic opportunities upon returning home.

**[07:19:07.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006863)  
Kaya nga po sila umaalis din dahil kulang dun sa economic opportunities.

**[07:19:12.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006864)  
Ganun din po, pagbalik, ganun pa rin.

**[07:19:13.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006865)  
Under the DMW and Overseas Workers' Welfare Administration Joint Reintegration,

**[07:19:20.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006866)  
budget for 2027, ano po ang proportion, what proportion of funds is directly earmarked for high-value skills training,

**[07:19:30.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006867)  
siguro po sa technology, healthcare, specialization, kasi yun po ang medyo mas malaki ang demand sa ating mga returning female OFWs.

**[07:20:32.680] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006869)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[07:20:35.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006870)  
Para po sa Balik Pinay Program, 45 million pesos po ang nakalaan para dito.

**[07:20:43.720] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006871)  
At it's also worth mentioning po siguro na ang ating ERF or Emergency Repatriation Fund,

**[07:20:50.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006873)  
79% po nito ay nalaan para po sa kababaihan.

**[07:20:54.120] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006874)  
So that's over 1 billion po na pondo na naiilaan po para sa kababaihan.

**[07:21:00.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006875)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[07:21:04.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006876)  
Pag-huling katanungan na lamang po, ano?

**[07:21:07.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006877)  
What quantifiable indicators and gender disaggregated baseline data

**[07:21:13.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006878)  
does the DMW use in the 2027 budget proposal

**[07:21:18.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006879)  
to track whether returning female

**[07:21:20.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006880)  
migrants

**[07:21:21.820] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006881)  
successfully transition out of precarious low-wage care work

**[07:21:27.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006882)  
into sustainable domestic livelihoods or formal employment?

**[07:21:32.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006883)  
Meron po ba tayong indicators?

**[07:21:36.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006884)  
Meron tayong sistema ang ginagamit?

**[07:21:46.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006885)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[07:21:50.460] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006887)  
meron po ng budget ng DMW every year ay nakalaan po para sa monitoring services

**[07:21:56.300] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006888)  
para po makita natin kung saan po ba or enough po ba ang nalalaan para sa ating mga kababaihan.

**[07:22:03.640] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006889)  
At meron din po tayong disaggregated data tungkol dyan.

**[07:22:08.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006890)  
Meron po. We can provide...

**[07:22:20.460] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006891)  
Sorry, I have the data here.

**[07:22:29.600] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006892)  
For the Balikpinay Balikhanap Buhay Program,

**[07:22:38.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006893)  
79% po ng mga beneficiaries are female.

**[07:22:45.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006894)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[07:22:50.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006895)  
Sa panghuli, payagan niyo po akong ipahayag na alam naman po natin

**[07:22:55.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006896)  
ang contribution ng ating mga OFWs.

**[07:22:58.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006897)  
Hindi natin po matatawaran ang ambag nila sa ating bayan.

**[07:23:02.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006898)  
Sila ang bumubuhay ng ating ekonomiya sa pamamagitan ng kanilang remittances.

**[07:23:08.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006899)  
Sila ang nagdadala ng dangal ng Pilipino sa iba't ibang lugar or panig ng mundo.

**[07:23:14.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006900)  
At sila rin ang nagbabayad ng pinakamataas na halaga.

**[07:23:19.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006901)  
Ang pagkakahiwan.

**[07:23:20.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006902)  
Ang pagkakahiwalay sa pamilya at ang panganib sa kanilang kaligtasan.

**[07:23:25.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006903)  
Kaya naman nararapat na ang Department of Migrant Workers ay bigyan ng mas mataas na pondo

**[07:23:32.280] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006904)  
upang matiyak na ang proteksyon, suporta at reintegrasyon ng ating mga OFWs ay tunay na maisa sa katuparan.

**[07:23:43.400] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006905)  
Sa bawat pisong ilalaan sa DMW, nakataya ang buhay at kinabukasan ng milyong-milyong Pilipino

**[07:23:50.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006906)  
sa bayong dagat.

**[07:23:51.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006907)  
Kaya't hinihiling natin na ang 2027 budget ng DMW ay palakasin upang ang kanilang sakripisyo ay masuklian

**[07:23:59.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006908)  
ng mas matibay na proteksyon, mas maayos na serbisyo at mas makabuluhang suporta mula sa pamahalaan.

**[07:24:08.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006909)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[07:24:12.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006910)  
Madam Speaker, since there are no more members of the minority who wish to interpolate,

**[07:24:17.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006911)  
I move to terminate the period of sponsorship.

**[07:24:20.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-006912)  
The debate on the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers and including its attached agencies.

**[07:24:27.160] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006913)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:24:28.540] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-006914)  
Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate

**[07:24:35.760] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-006915)  
the period of interpolation of the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers.

**[07:24:42.500] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006916)  
There is a joint motion from the majority and the minority to terminate the sponsorship debate and interpolation

**[07:24:50.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006917)  
of the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers, including its attached agencies.

**[07:24:55.820] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006918)  
Do we hear an objection?

**[07:24:57.740] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006919)  
Hearing none, said motion is approved.

**[07:25:01.240] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006920)  
The period of sponsorship debate and interpolation of the proposed budget of the Department of Migrant Workers,

**[07:25:07.280] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006921)  
including its attached agencies, is hereby terminated.

**[07:25:11.620] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006922)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:25:13.040] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006923)  
Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes.

**[07:25:15.200] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006924)  
Session suspended.

**[07:30:33.440] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006934)  
Session resumed.

**[07:30:36.160] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006935)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:30:37.340] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006936)  
Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas.

**[07:30:45.400] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006937)  
Is there an objection? Hearing none, the period of sponsorship debate and interpellation on the proposed budget of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas is hereby opened. Majority Leader.

**[07:30:56.260] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006938)  
Before we proceed, Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the department. They are the following: Secretary Dante Francis M. Ang II, Chief Administrative Officer Ms. Tiffany Jones V. Uriate, Mr. Romeo M. Rosas II, Ariel T. Cruz, Mr. Jans Jerome Bentula, Madam Speaker.

**[07:31:20.620] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006939)  
To the Commission on Filipinos Overseas family, headed by Secretary Dante Francis Ang II, maraming salamat sa inyong pagdalo. Welcome to the House of the People. Majority Leader.

**[07:31:33.540] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006940)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

**[07:31:35.740] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006941)  
the Honorable Irene G. Labad-Labad,

**[07:31:38.420] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006942)  
Vice Chair, to

**[07:31:39.820] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006943)  
sponsor the proposed budget for the Commission

**[07:31:41.960] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006944)  
on Filipinos Overseas.

**[07:31:43.260] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006945)  
The Honorable Labad-Labad is hereby recognized

**[07:31:46.280] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006946)  
to sponsor the proposed

**[07:31:48.180] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006947)  
budget of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas.

**[07:31:51.240] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006948)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:31:52.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006949)  
Distinguished Members of the House of

**[07:31:53.880] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006950)  
Representatives, it is my privilege

**[07:31:56.040] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006951)  
to sponsor the proposed budget

**[07:31:57.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006952)  
of the Commission on Filipino

**[07:31:59.440] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006953)  
Overseas for

**[07:32:01.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006954)  
Fiscal Year 2027

**[07:32:03.140] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006955)  
for the total

**[07:32:04.340] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006956)  
spending of

**[07:32:06.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006957)  
for the total budget of

**[07:32:09.200] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006958)  
195,200,000 pesos.

**[07:32:13.780] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006959)  
This representation

**[07:32:14.900] Rep. Irene G. Labadlabad** (asr-006960)  
is now ready for interpolation.

**[07:32:20.140] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006961)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:32:21.940] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006962)  
I move to recognize the Honorable

**[07:32:23.340] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006963)  
Presley De Jesus.

**[07:32:25.300] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006964)  
The Honorable Presley De Jesus is hereby recognized

**[07:32:27.600] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006965)  
for his interpolation.

**[07:32:29.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006966)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[07:32:33.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006967)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:32:34.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006968)  
there being no more members

**[07:32:36.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006969)  
for the minority

**[07:32:37.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006970)  
who wishes to interpolate,

**[07:32:40.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006971)  
I move to terminate

**[07:32:41.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006972)  
the period of sponsorship and debate

**[07:32:44.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006973)  
for the budget of the

**[07:32:45.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006974)  
Commission on Filipinos Overseas.

**[07:32:48.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006975)  
I so move, Madam Speaker.

**[07:32:50.400] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006976)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:32:51.660] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006977)  
Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority,

**[07:32:53.460] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006978)  
we join the minority in the motion to terminate

**[07:32:56.100] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006979)  
the period of interpolations on the proposed budget

**[07:32:58.280] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006980)  
for the proposed budget of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas.

**[07:32:59.440] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006981)  
Commission on Filipinos Overseas.

**[07:33:03.240] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006982)  
There's a joint motion

**[07:33:04.540] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006983)  
to terminate the period of sponsorship,

**[07:33:06.960] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006984)  
debate, and interpolation

**[07:33:08.180] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006985)  
on the proposed budget of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas.

**[07:33:12.380] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006986)  
Any objection?

**[07:33:13.620] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006987)  
Hearing none, said motion is approved.

**[07:33:16.560] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006988)  
The interpolation of the proposed budget

**[07:33:21.480] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006989)  
of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas

**[07:33:22.700] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006990)  
is hereby terminated.

**[07:33:24.660] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006991)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:33:29.440] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006993)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:33:31.020] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006994)  
I now move to consider the proposed budget

**[07:33:33.920] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006995)  
of the National Commission on Indigenous Peoples.

**[07:33:38.040] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006996)  
An objection?

**[07:33:38.900] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006997)  
Hearing none, said motion is approved.

**[07:33:40.820] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006998)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:33:42.260] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-006999)  
Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials

**[07:33:44.520] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007000)  
of the NCIP.

**[07:33:46.200] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007001)  
They are the following.

**[07:33:47.460] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007002)  
Secretary Nancy Catamco,

**[07:33:49.780] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007003)  
Commissioner-Attorney Rodex Valenciano,

**[07:33:53.480] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007004)  
Commissioner Alex Centena,

**[07:33:55.440] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007005)  
Commissioner-Attorney Alberto Lagamon,

**[07:33:58.120] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007006)  
Commissioner-Attorney Leslie

**[07:33:59.440] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007007)  
May Plaza, Madam Speaker.

**[07:34:02.960] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007008)  
To the NCIP family,

**[07:34:06.360] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007009)  
welcome to the House of the People.

**[07:34:08.220] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007010)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:34:10.020] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007011)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:34:10.840] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007012)  
I move that we recognize the Honorable,

**[07:34:13.800] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007013)  
the following Vice Chairs,

**[07:34:15.000] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007014)  
Vice Chair Josefina B. Talado

**[07:34:16.720] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007015)  
and Vice Chair Rodolfo Ompong M. Ordanez

**[07:34:19.840] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007016)  
to sponsor the proposed budget of the NCIP.

**[07:34:23.200] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007017)  
Any objection?

**[07:34:23.820] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007018)  
Hearing none,

**[07:34:25.140] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007019)  
the Honorable Vice Chair Josefina Talado

**[07:34:27.140] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007020)  
as well as the Honorable,

**[07:34:29.440] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007025)  
Rodolfo Ompong M. Ordanez

**[07:34:31.160] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007026)  
of Partily Senior Citizens

**[07:34:32.540] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007027)  
are hereby recognized

**[07:34:33.780] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007028)  
as sponsors of the National Commission

**[07:34:36.240] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007029)  
on Indigenous Peoples' Proposed Budget.

**[07:34:43.520] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007030)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:34:46.160] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007031)  
at sa aking mga kagalang-galang na kasamahan

**[07:34:48.500] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007032)  
sa kapulungan,

**[07:34:51.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007033)  
ako po ay humaharap ngayon

**[07:34:52.780] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007034)  
bilang sponsor ng panukalang budget

**[07:34:55.140] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007035)  
ng National Commission on Indigenous Peoples.

**[07:34:59.440] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007036)  
Para sa Fiscal Year 2027.

**[07:35:04.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007037)  
This Fiscal Year 2027,

**[07:35:07.660] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007038)  
humiling po ang NCIP

**[07:35:09.240] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007039)  
ng kabuoang 3.608 billion.

**[07:35:14.420] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007040)  
Subalit, sa ilalim ng National Expenditure Program

**[07:35:17.420] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007041)  
or NEP,

**[07:35:19.340] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007042)  
1.831 billion lamang ang inilaat,

**[07:35:23.440] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007043)  
na halos kalahati lamang

**[07:35:25.000] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007044)  
ng aktual na pangailangan ng ahensya

**[07:35:28.000] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007045)  
para sa

**[07:35:29.280] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007046)  
susunod na taon.

**[07:35:31.300] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007047)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[07:35:38.000] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007048)  
Madam Speaker.

**[07:35:39.780] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007049)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:35:41.580] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007050)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

**[07:35:43.720] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007051)  
the Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula

**[07:35:45.540] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007052)  
to interpolate the sponsor.

**[07:35:48.080] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007053)  
The Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula

**[07:35:49.640] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007054)  
of Party-list Akbayan

**[07:35:50.960] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007055)  
is hereby recognized

**[07:35:54.140] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007056)  
for her interpolation.

**[07:35:59.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007057)  
Asalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu.

**[07:36:04.720] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007058)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:36:05.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007059)  
good sponsor,

**[07:36:08.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007060)  
since karamihan ng mga ancestral domains

**[07:36:11.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007061)  
ay nasa mga regions,

**[07:36:14.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007062)  
my plano bang investment

**[07:36:14.960] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007063)  
sa mga regional

**[07:36:16.500] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007064)  
or field offices

**[07:36:18.040] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007065)  
sa 2027?

**[07:36:38.140] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007071)  
Madam Speaker, yes, since most ancestral domains and ICCs/IPs are located in the regions, we recognize that NCIP's capacity must also be strongest at the field level.

**[07:36:56.700] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007072)  
For 2027, our direction is to strengthen our regional, provincial, and community service centers by providing the necessary technical personnel, field resources, and operational support.

**[07:37:13.780] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007073)  
Marami po sa trabaho ng NCIP ay ginagawa mismo sa communities.

**[07:37:20.380] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007074)  
Tulad po ng ancestral domain, delineation, census, and validation.

**[07:37:26.120] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007075)  
This requires our personnel to actually reach the communities, including those in geographically isolated and disadvantaged areas.

**[07:37:45.900] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007076)  
So, strengthening the field offices is not simply an administrative investment.

**[07:37:51.840] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007077)  
It directly increases our capacity.

**[07:37:56.120] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007078)  
To deliver the mandate of NCIP, where our ICCs, IPs, actually are.

**[07:38:04.040] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007079)  
Madam Speaker, we have submitted our Tier 2 proposal for creation of 10 provincial offices and 36 community service centers.

**[07:38:15.980] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007080)  
Unfortunately, it was not included in the 2027 NEP of NCIP.

**[07:38:26.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007081)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[07:38:29.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007082)  
Sa NEP po ng 2027, nakasaad na ang 2025 GAA, target para sa percentage increase ng ancestral domains or lands recognized and delineated ay 11%.

**[07:38:44.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007083)  
Ngunit ang actual performance ay 0%.

**[07:38:48.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007084)  
Sa 2026, target muli ay 11%.

**[07:38:52.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007085)  
As of today, ilang percent na po ba ang na-accomplish?

**[07:38:56.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007087)  
It is a target based on the Actual Cases Program.

**[07:39:06.260] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007088)  
There is states of processing, complexity, location, and the resources available for implementation.

**[07:39:14.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007089)  
At the same time, the 113 represents only the funded annual target.

**[07:39:19.980] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007090)  
It does not represent the total need or the total number of

**[07:39:26.420] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007092)  
ancestral domain claims that NCIP still has to process.

**[07:39:32.060] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007093)  
Kaya po, ang gusto namin ipakita sa Congress is the distinction between the funded target and the actual mandate.

**[07:39:43.200] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007094)  
The NCIP will deliver what is funded while continuing to present the remaining requirements so that, over time, it can address the larger backlog.

**[07:39:56.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007095)  
The target should be realistic enough to be accountable.

**[07:39:59.460] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007096)  
But the budget should also progressively respond to the actual universe of ancestral domains' claims that remain to be served.

**[07:40:11.380] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007097)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:40:13.200] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007098)  
CAGTI and CALTI processing is the legal recognition of ancestral domain and ancestral land rights.

**[07:40:24.140] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007099)  
It is not an ordinary process.

**[07:40:26.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007100)  
It is not an ordinary permit or simple administrative transactions.

**[07:40:31.680] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007101)  
Ang kinikilala po natin dito ay karapatan sa lupa na may intergenerational consequences.

**[07:40:41.040] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007102)  
Once recognized, it affects not only the present generation but also the generations that will come after them.

**[07:40:50.000] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007103)  
That is why the process has to be thorough and evidence-based.

**[07:40:56.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007104)  
It involves community participation, genealogical and historical research, census, survey and mapping, validation, resolution of boundary and overlapping claims, legal review, and ultimately, commission deliberations.

**[07:41:17.040] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007105)  
May mga pagkakataon din na kailangan ng coordination with DNR, DAR, LRA.

**[07:41:26.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007106)  
LGUs and other agencies, because land records, existing titles, surveys,

**[07:41:34.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007114)  
And other claims have to be reconciled.

**[07:41:38.500] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007115)  
Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, ulitin ko po yung tanong ko.

**[07:41:42.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007116)  
Ilang percent na ang na-accomplish na ADs and ALs ngayong 2026 po?

**[07:41:51.960] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007117)  
Or as of today?

**[07:42:04.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007118)  
Madam Speaker, the 11% is the annual target based on the resources provided for 2027.

**[07:42:17.880] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007119)  
It does not represent the total number of ancestral domains and lands that still need to be processed.

**[07:42:27.320] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007120)  
The 11% corresponds to the 30 ancestral domains or lands.

**[07:42:34.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007121)  
For many years, the budget of NCIP has not been proportionate to the actual universe of its mandate.

**[07:42:44.820] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007122)  
Kaya po, ang target ay nakabatay sa kung ano ang kanyang pondohan, hindi sa kabuhuang pangangailangan.

**[07:42:54.940] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007123)  
This is precisely why NCIP proposed a higher budget.

**[07:43:00.660] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007124)  
So we can progressively increase our coverage.

**[07:43:04.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007125)  
And process more ancestral domains and land claims.

**[07:43:10.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007126)  
Sige po, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, baguhin ko na lang ang tanong ko.

**[07:43:15.780] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007127)  
Ilan po ang na-accomplish na ng NCIP para mabigyan ng CalTee at CADTee for 2026?

**[07:43:28.140] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007128)  
For 2026 po, ang approved is tatlo pong CAD-T at

**[07:43:34.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007129)  
CAL-T.

**[07:43:38.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007130)  
Ang total po ay 529.

**[07:43:46.580] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007131)  
Approved, CADTee and CalTee.

**[07:43:50.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007132)  
Approved po, approved.

**[07:43:52.980] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007133)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

**[07:43:56.900] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007134)  
Sa NEP po ba ng 2027, target ulit po ay 11%.

**[07:44:01.900] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007135)  
Ilan po ang tiyak na bilang ng ancestral domain na sakop ng target na ito?

**[07:44:09.540] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007136)  
At bakit po taon-taon 11% lamang ang target ng NCIP?

**[07:44:18.420] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007137)  
Sa 2027 po, Madam Speaker, ay 74 for 2027 ang target.

**[07:44:30.000] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007138)  
At bakit po kaya taon-taon?

**[07:44:31.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007139)  
At bakit po kaya taon-taon 11% ang target natin?

**[07:44:39.520] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007140)  
Madam Speaker, yung 11% po is the annual target based on the resources provided for 2027.

**[07:44:51.080] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007141)  
It does not represent the total number of ancestral domains and lands that still need to be processed.

**[07:44:58.500] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007142)  
The 11%

**[07:45:00.638] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007143)  
corresponds to 30 ancestral domain or land claims.

**[07:45:07.640] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007144)  
For many years, the budget for NCIP has not been proportionate to the actual universe of its mandate.

**[07:45:16.260] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007145)  
Kaya po, ang target ay nakabatay sa kung ano ang kanyang pondohan, hindi sa kabuang pangangailangan.

**[07:45:25.000] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007146)  
Naintindihan ko po ito, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

**[07:45:30.180] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007147)  
Kaya dadako na lang po ako sa susunod na katanungan ko kasi paulit-ulit na lang po yung tanong ko, paulit-ulit din po yung nagiging sagot.

**[07:45:40.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007148)  
Sa indicator ng percentage increase ng bilang ng IPs assisted sa plan formulation, parehong 7% ang target para sa 2026 at 2027.

**[07:45:52.360] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007149)  
Ano po ang dahilan kung bakit hindi tumataas ang target?

**[07:45:55.000] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007150)  
At paano ito nakaka-apekto sa mga IP communities?

**[07:46:01.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007151)  
Madam Speaker, we have a universe of 999 ancestral domains.

**[07:46:10.920] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007152)  
Of these, 335 already have formulated ADSD PPS, leaving a gap of 664.

**[07:46:24.980] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007154)  
For fiscal year 2027, the funded target is only 30 ADSD PPS, equivalent to about 4.5% of the remaining gap.

**[07:46:38.720] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007155)  
After that, 634 would still remain.

**[07:46:44.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007156)  
This illustrates the mandate coverage gap.

**[07:46:47.640] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007157)  
Our annual target is determined by available resources while the actual need is much larger.

**[07:46:54.820] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007158)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[07:46:58.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007159)  
Distinguished sponsor, can the NCIP confirm if it has a concrete plan to expedite the release of Certificate of Ancestral Domain title?

**[07:47:09.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007160)  
Considering na mandato na ito ng komisyon mula pa noong na-enact ng IPRA, bakit tila nananatiling mabagal ang CAD-T issuance po natin?

**[07:47:21.560] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007161)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:47:24.500] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007162)  
We are addressing not only the internal processing of CADTs and CALTs,

**[07:47:29.900] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007163)  
but also the interagency bottlenecks involving land records, registration, and overlapping claims.

**[07:47:38.400] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007164)  
NCIP has already met with the Land Registration Authority to streamline CADT/CALT registration and address overlaps and interagency requirements.

**[07:47:56.280] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007220)  
A technical working group was agreed upon to develop a clearer coordination mechanism.

**[07:48:03.060] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007221)  
We are also engaging in broader land justice initiatives, including the Supreme Court's Land and Justice Summit,

**[07:48:12.600] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007222)  
where systemic issues involving land disputes and overlapping claims can be addressed with the concerned institutions.

**[07:48:20.640] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007223)  
The Supreme Court had identified the Land and Justice Summit as one of its justice sector initiatives.

**[07:48:30.460] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007224)  
So, our approach is both operational and structural.

**[07:48:35.260] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007225)  
Expedite individual claims while addressing the policy fragmentation that causes recurring delays.

**[07:48:43.120] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007226)  
The Admin Order there on the contracting out-of-survey services in delineation

**[07:48:48.980] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007227)  
has been approved.

**[07:48:50.640] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007228)  
It is approved and is up for publication.

**[07:48:53.660] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007229)  
There is also an ongoing effort on digitization of our services and process

**[07:49:00.260] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007230)  
for more efficient processing, monitoring, and record-keeping.

**[07:49:07.420] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007231)  
For this year po, sa 2026, saan po yung mga CAD-TIS na issue?

**[07:49:15.620] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007232)  
Ano-anong mga regions at ano-anong mga tribes po?

**[07:49:20.640] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007233)  
Sa Region 3 po, meron tayong isa.

**[07:49:27.860] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007234)  
Region 12, meron pong apat.

**[07:49:31.140] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007235)  
Region 9, meron pong tatlo.

**[07:49:34.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007236)  
Region 6, meron pong apat.

**[07:49:37.380] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007237)  
At Region 7, meron pong lima.

**[07:49:39.440] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007238)  
Or a total of 17 CAD-T in 2026.

**[07:49:48.160] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007239)  
As of July 31, 2026.

**[07:49:50.640] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007240)  
And ongoing pa po ito.

**[07:49:52.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007241)  
Good sponsor.

**[07:49:53.620] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007242)  
Tama po?

**[07:49:56.200] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007243)  
Apo-apo.

**[07:49:57.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007244)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[07:49:58.720] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007245)  
Now, last year, you committed to look into the 20-year CAD-T application of Sitio Marihangin in Bugso, Palawan.

**[07:50:10.420] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007246)  
What's the status of their application po?

**[07:50:14.820] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007247)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:50:15.900] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007248)  
the CAD-T application involving

**[07:50:19.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007249)  
the Marihangin community

**[07:50:21.280] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007250)  
is being actively addressed by NCIP.

**[07:50:26.040] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007251)  
The community requested funding for the processing of its CAD-T

**[07:50:29.900] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007252)  
under the 100 million funding allocation.

**[07:50:34.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007253)  
The concerned field office

**[07:50:35.940] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007254)  
has already submitted the work and financial plan

**[07:50:39.400] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007255)  
for the CAD-T processing.

**[07:50:42.460] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007256)  
There is also an existing boundary conflict

**[07:50:45.680] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007257)  
involving overlapping ancestral domain

**[07:50:48.920] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007258)  
claims,

**[07:50:49.600] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007260)  
To address this,

**[07:50:52.120] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007261)  
funding for the conduct of the conflict resolution conference

**[07:50:55.660] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007262)  
has already been downloaded

**[07:50:59.000] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007263)  
to the field office.

**[07:51:01.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007264)  
Our direction

**[07:51:02.440] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007265)  
is to resolve

**[07:51:05.420] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007266)  
the boundary issue

**[07:51:07.640] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007267)  
and proceed with the necessary

**[07:51:09.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007268)  
delineation activities

**[07:51:12.180] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007269)  
once the requirements

**[07:51:13.900] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007270)  
and funding arrangements

**[07:51:16.140] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007271)  
are in place.

**[07:51:17.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007272)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[07:51:19.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007273)  
That's a good news po, no?

**[07:51:20.700] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007274)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[07:51:23.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007275)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[07:51:24.960] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007276)  
Ngayong taon lamang,

**[07:51:26.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007277)  
naging mainit po ang usapin ng revised FPIC guidelines

**[07:51:30.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007278)  
kung saan maraming ni-raise na concerns

**[07:51:33.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007279)  
ang ating mga IP communities at networks

**[07:51:35.940] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007280)  
sa aksyon ng NCIP na ito.

**[07:51:38.960] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007281)  
Personally, nakipag-dialog po tayo sa NCIP

**[07:51:42.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007282)  
para rito.

**[07:51:43.780] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007283)  
Ngunit pagkatapos nito,

**[07:51:45.620] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007284)  
wala na tayong nakuha

**[07:51:47.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007285)  
or natanggap na update tungkol dito.

**[07:51:49.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007286)  
Ano na po kaya ang status

**[07:51:51.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007287)  
Ano na po kaya ang status

**[07:51:53.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007288)  
ng revised FPIC guidelines?

**[07:51:55.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007289)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:51:57.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007290)  
the revised FPIC guidelines

**[07:51:59.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007291)  
have already been approved

**[07:52:01.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007292)  
by the Commission en banc

**[07:52:05.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007294)  
and scheduled for publication.

**[07:52:07.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007295)  
This revision was not rushed.

**[07:52:11.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007297)  
The review started as early as 2016

**[07:52:13.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007298)  
and went through years of consultations,

**[07:52:17.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007300)  
reviews and deliberations,

**[07:52:19.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007301)  
involving ICCs,

**[07:52:21.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007302)  
IPs and other stakeholders.

**[07:52:25.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007304)  
We recognize the concerns being raised

**[07:52:27.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007305)  
because FPIC

**[07:52:29.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007306)  
is not merely

**[07:52:31.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007307)  
an administrative process.

**[07:52:33.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007308)  
It is a fundamental right

**[07:52:35.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007309)  
of ICCs, IPs

**[07:52:37.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007310)  
to decide

**[07:52:39.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007311)  
whether a project may proceed

**[07:52:41.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007312)  
and if they consent

**[07:52:43.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007313)  
to set the conditions,

**[07:52:45.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007314)  
limitations and safeguards

**[07:52:47.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007315)  
necessary to protect

**[07:52:49.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007316)  
their ancestral domains,

**[07:52:51.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007317)  
identity and culture.

**[07:52:53.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007318)  
Our objective

**[07:52:55.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007319)  
is to make government processing

**[07:52:57.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007320)  
more efficient and accountable

**[07:52:59.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007321)  
without weakening the

**[07:53:01.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007322)  
substance of FPIC.

**[07:53:03.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007323)  
Efficiency should never

**[07:53:05.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007324)  
replace genuine community

**[07:53:07.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007325)  
consent.

**[07:53:11.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007326)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[07:53:13.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007327)  
sana po ganun po talaga

**[07:53:15.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007328)  
yung nangyari.

**[07:53:17.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007329)  
Unfortunately,

**[07:53:19.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007330)  
ilang regional offices,

**[07:53:21.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007331)  
ilang field offices po ang nakausap ko,

**[07:53:23.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007332)  
ngunit ang sabi ng mga

**[07:53:25.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007333)  
kakilala kong RD,

**[07:53:27.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007334)  
ang sabi nila, isang beses

**[07:53:29.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007335)  
lamang silang nakonsulta

**[07:53:31.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007336)  
at hindi na po nila nakita

**[07:53:33.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007337)  
ang naging

**[07:53:35.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007338)  
draft ng FPIC

**[07:53:37.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007339)  
na ito. Gusto ko sana

**[07:53:39.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007340)  
pong maniwala sa sinabi

**[07:53:41.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007341)  
ng ating good sponsor.

**[07:53:43.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007342)  
Unfortunately, sa mga

**[07:53:45.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007343)  
nakalap kong balita at

**[07:53:47.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007344)  
nabuha po naming mga impormasyon sa baba,

**[07:53:49.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007345)  
hindi po ganito ang nangyari.

**[07:53:51.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007346)  
I understand

**[07:53:53.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007347)  
that this has been

**[07:53:55.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007348)  
years of

**[07:53:57.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007349)  
drafting of the

**[07:53:59.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007350)  
new FPIC guidelines.

**[07:54:01.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007351)  
Pero,

**[07:54:03.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007352)  
marami pa rin po ang hindi

**[07:54:05.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007353)  
naging masaya sa ano pang

**[07:54:07.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007354)  
kabuoang FPIC

**[07:54:09.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007355)  
or revised FPIC guidelines

**[07:54:11.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007356)  
na ito.

**[07:54:13.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007357)  
Sa huling pag-uusap po namin

**[07:54:15.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007358)  
ng NCIP noong

**[07:54:17.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007359)  
pumunta po kami

**[07:54:19.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007360)  
sa kanilang central office at

**[07:54:21.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007361)  
nakipag-dialogue, ang sabi nila

**[07:54:23.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007362)  
at a minimum,

**[07:54:25.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007363)  
meron silang

**[07:54:27.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007364)  
ma-update doon sa mga

**[07:54:29.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007365)  
ni-raise naming mga concerns,

**[07:54:31.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007366)  
pero up to the present,

**[07:54:33.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007367)  
ilang buwan na ang dumaan,

**[07:54:35.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007368)  
hindi pa rin kami nakatanggap

**[07:54:37.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007369)  
ng update dito.

**[07:54:39.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007370)  
I will move to my

**[07:54:41.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007371)  
next question, Madam Speaker,

**[07:54:43.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007372)  
Distinguished Sponsor.

**[07:54:45.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007373)  
Dito rin ba sa approved revised FPIC guidelines?

**[07:54:47.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007374)  
Nananatiling

**[07:54:49.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007375)  
principal evidence ng consent

**[07:54:51.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007376)  
ng IPs,

**[07:54:53.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007377)  
ICCs, ang memorandum

**[07:54:55.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007378)  
of agreement?

**[07:55:01.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007379)  
Opo, Madam Speaker,

**[07:55:03.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007380)  
the core requirement

**[07:55:05.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007381)  
remains the genuine

**[07:55:07.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007382)  
consent of the affected

**[07:55:09.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007383)  
ICCs, IPs,

**[07:55:11.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007384)  
through their own customary

**[07:55:13.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007385)  
decision-making process.

**[07:55:15.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007386)  
The MOA is retained

**[07:55:17.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007387)  
because consent

**[07:55:19.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007388)  
is not simply a

**[07:55:21.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007389)  
yes. The community

**[07:55:23.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007390)  
has the right to set conditions,

**[07:55:25.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007391)  
limitations,

**[07:55:27.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007392)  
benefits, and safeguards,

**[07:55:29.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007393)  
and these commitments must be

**[07:55:31.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007394)  
clearly documented

**[07:55:33.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007395)  
and enforceable.

**[07:55:35.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007396)  
In short, FPIC

**[07:55:37.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007397)  
protects both

**[07:55:39.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007398)  
the community's right to decide

**[07:55:41.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007399)  
and its right to define

**[07:55:43.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007400)  
the terms under which

**[07:55:45.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007401)  
it gives consent.

**[07:55:47.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007402)  
Finally, Madam Speaker,

**[07:55:49.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007403)  
Madam Sponsor, sa revised guidelines

**[07:55:51.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007404)  
din po, can the

**[07:55:53.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007405)  
NCIP elaborate

**[07:55:55.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007406)  
ang total timeline

**[07:55:57.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007407)  
ng FPIC once

**[07:55:59.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007408)  
nag-commence po ito?

**[07:56:03.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007409)  
Ano na po ang

**[07:56:05.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007410)  
naging timeline for

**[07:56:07.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007411)  
community deliberations?

**[07:56:09.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007412)  
Isa po kasi sa naging concern ng ating

**[07:56:11.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007413)  
mga IP communities ang

**[07:56:13.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007414)  
pag-ikli ng kabuo

**[07:56:15.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007415)  
ang FPIC process.

**[07:56:45.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007416)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:56:47.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007417)  
hindi po tama

**[07:56:49.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007418)  
na pinaikli ang

**[07:56:51.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007419)  
community deliberation.

**[07:56:53.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007420)  
In fact,

**[07:56:55.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007421)  
mas pinahaba po ito

**[07:56:57.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007422)  
under the 2026

**[07:56:59.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007423)  
FPIC guidelines.

**[07:57:01.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007424)  
The community may

**[07:57:03.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007425)  
have up to 60 working days

**[07:57:05.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007426)  
for consensus

**[07:57:07.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007427)  
building and decision-making,

**[07:57:09.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007428)  
compared with

**[07:57:11.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007429)  
30 days under the 2012

**[07:57:13.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007430)  
guidelines and

**[07:57:15.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007431)  
43 calendar days

**[07:57:17.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007432)  
under E-BOS.

**[07:57:19.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007433)  
Mas malinaw din po

**[07:57:21.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007434)  
ngayon ang

**[07:57:23.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007435)  
accountability sa timeline.

**[07:57:25.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007436)  
Maraming documentary

**[07:57:27.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007437)  
and administrative tasks

**[07:57:29.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007438)  
na ating ginagawa ng

**[07:57:31.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007439)  
NCIP ay

**[07:57:33.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007440)  
inilagay na sa responsibility

**[07:57:35.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007441)  
ng proponent.

**[07:57:37.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007442)  
Therefore, the time

**[07:57:39.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007443)  
consumed in completing those

**[07:57:41.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007444)  
requirements runs

**[07:57:43.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007445)  
against the proponent,

**[07:57:45.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007446)  
not the time of the community

**[07:57:47.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007447)  
to deliberate.

**[07:57:49.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007448)  
And there is no deemed consent.

**[07:57:51.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007449)  
Consent

**[07:57:53.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007450)  
must be affirmatively

**[07:57:55.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007451)  
given by the ICC's

**[07:57:57.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007452)  
IPs through their

**[07:57:59.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007453)  
customary decision-making

**[07:58:01.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007454)  
process.

**[07:58:03.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007455)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:58:05.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007456)  
Madam Sponsor, go ahead.

**[07:58:07.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007457)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:58:09.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007458)  
the total timeline

**[07:58:11.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007459)  
for the FPIC process

**[07:58:13.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007460)  
for Category A projects,

**[07:58:15.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007461)  
extractive and large-scale

**[07:58:17.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007462)  
projects is

**[07:58:19.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007463)  
163 working days.

**[07:58:21.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007464)  
50 working days

**[07:58:23.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007465)  
for Category B

**[07:58:25.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007466)  
projects

**[07:58:27.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007467)  
and 20 days

**[07:58:29.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007468)  
for Category C

**[07:58:31.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007469)  
projects.

**[07:58:33.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007470)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:58:35.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007471)  
Good Sponsor, hindi po

**[07:58:37.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007472)  
ibig sabihin eh

**[07:58:39.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007473)  
secured na po ang ating

**[07:58:41.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007474)  
mga katutubo, ang ating

**[07:58:43.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007475)  
mga IPs sa naging

**[07:58:45.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007476)  
paliwanag po ng NCIP

**[07:58:47.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007477)  
dito. With that,

**[07:58:49.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007478)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:58:51.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007479)  
Distinguished Sponsor,

**[07:58:53.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007480)  
kung ganun man din

**[07:58:55.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007481)  
lang, baguhin na lang

**[07:58:57.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007482)  
natin ang pangalan ng NCIP.

**[07:58:59.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007483)  
Gawin na lang po natin

**[07:59:01.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007484)  
no consent that's

**[07:59:03.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007485)  
informed and prior.

**[07:59:05.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007486)  
Sa halip na free prior

**[07:59:07.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007487)  
and informed consent, force

**[07:59:09.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007488)  
force and

**[07:59:11.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007489)  
mal-informed consent ang

**[07:59:13.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007490)  
ginagawa dito sa bagong guidelines.

**[07:59:15.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007491)  
As the primary agency

**[07:59:17.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007492)  
for indigenous peoples,

**[07:59:19.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007493)  
nakakadismayang hindi maganda

**[07:59:21.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007494)  
ang performance ng NCIP

**[07:59:23.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007495)  
sa pag-grant ng CAD-TIS

**[07:59:25.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007496)  
at pagbago-bago

**[07:59:27.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007497)  
at pinapaikot na

**[07:59:29.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007498)  
FPIC guidelines for review

**[07:59:31.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007499)  
ng mga katutubo. We challenge

**[07:59:33.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007500)  
the agency to guarantee

**[07:59:35.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007501)  
improvements and widen

**[07:59:37.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007502)  
participation and genuine

**[07:59:39.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007503)  
consultation among civil societies

**[07:59:41.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007504)  
and IP communities this year.

**[07:59:43.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007505)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

**[07:59:45.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007506)  
Ako po ay lubos

**[07:59:47.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-007507)  
na nadidismaya.

**[08:00:00.000] Rep. Ryan S. Recto** (asr-007508)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Jose Joboy S. Aquino II from the Lone District, City of Butuan.

**[08:00:10.960] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007509)  
The Honorable Joboy Aquino from Butuan City is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[08:00:18.140] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007510)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor, my colleagues here in Congress, good afternoon.

**[08:00:27.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007511)  
I would just like to make a manifestation, Madam Speaker.

**[08:00:34.760] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007512)  
This representation would like to make a manifestation concerning the proposed budget of the National Commission on Indigenous People,

**[08:00:46.760] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007513)  
given their glaring apathy and complete inaction during actual conflicts on the ground.

**[08:00:57.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007514)  
Mr. Speaker, this year in Butuan City, an 18-year Good Friday tradition, the Panaat Pilgrimage in Barangay Antikala, was intentionally disrupted by political theater.

**[08:01:19.060] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007515)  
Local indigenous groups were manipulated amid a clan power struggle.

**[08:01:27.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007516)  
Dating back to 2020, weaponizing a sacred cultural observance for political gain.

**[08:01:37.900] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007517)  
Rather than arguing in the media, my office initiated an immediate dialogue with local tribal leadership, barangay officials, the Philippine National Police, the Philippine Army, and the Red Cross,

**[08:01:56.160] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007518)  
to have the...

**[08:01:57.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007519)  
to have the resolution officially retracted.

**[08:02:01.340] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007520)  
I must emphasize, Mr. Speaker, that this peaceful resolution was achieved completely without the intervention of the NCIP,

**[08:02:15.780] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007521)  
who simply stood by and did nothing while tensions escalated.

**[08:02:25.800] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007522)  
With this, I ask, does the...

**[08:02:27.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007523)  
Does the NCIP have a standard, funded protocol for facilitating immediate dialogue in these instances?

**[08:02:39.220] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007524)  
Or does it leave the responsibility entirely to the legislative and local government unit?

**[08:02:48.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007525)  
Thank you.

**[08:02:54.460] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007526)  
We allocate millions.

**[08:02:57.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007527)  
To the Ancestral Domains Program to protect IP territories.

**[08:03:05.640] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007528)  
But tensions frequently arise over the balance of ancestral claims with vested rights and public access to shared thoroughfares.

**[08:03:19.620] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007529)  
Is there a dedicated budget allocation for a rapid response interagency

**[08:03:27.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007530)  
mechanism?

**[08:03:28.140] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007531)  
So the NCIP does not simply stand by and do nothing when these disputes erupt.

**[08:03:42.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007532)  
Therefore, Mr. Speaker, I leave it to this floor, to the agency concerned,

**[08:03:49.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007533)  
how they would understand and appreciate my sentiments on this issue.

**[08:03:57.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007534)  
Sabi nga sa Bisaya, Madam Speaker, sa lugar namin, 'maulaw mo.' Sa mga Bisaya, naiintindihan ninyo 'yan. Kayo na mag-isip kung paano sa Tagalog 'yan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:04:21.700] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007535)  
Majority Leader.

**[08:04:27.740] Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.** (asr-007537)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Jesus Jardine Romualdo of the Lone District of Camiguin.

**[08:04:46.080] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-007538)  
The Honorable Jardine Jesus Romualdo of the Lone District of Camiguin is hereby recognized for his manifestation.

**[08:04:56.440] Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo** (asr-007539)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:04:57.740] Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo** (asr-007543)  
Madam Speaker, Your Honor, I have really so many questions, Madam Speaker, Your Honor.

**[08:05:07.000] Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo** (asr-007544)  
However, when we're going to tackle my bill, in which I am the author to amend the indigenous people's charter,

**[08:05:22.120] Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo** (asr-007545)  
I'm listening also to the speakers before me.

**[08:05:27.740] Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo** (asr-007546)  
Madam Chair, but I will just make my manifestation that these questions I'm going to ask during when we tackle the bill.

**[08:05:41.980] Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo** (asr-007547)  
However, thank you for the time, Madam Speaker, Your Honor.

**[08:05:48.520] Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo** (asr-007548)  
I will just forego all the questions, interpolations for the NCIP.

**[08:05:55.620] Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo** (asr-007549)  
However, Madam Speaker,

**[08:05:57.740] Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo** (asr-007550)  
Madam Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor, at the proper time, I will propose to reduce the budget of the National Commission on Indigenous Peoples to 1,000, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[08:06:12.600] Rep. Jurdin Jesus "JJ" M. Romualdo** (asr-007551)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[08:06:16.400] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-007552)  
Thank you, Honorable Romualdo.

**[08:06:18.900] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-007553)  
Majority Leader?

**[08:06:19.600] Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.** (asr-007554)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Sara Elago of the Gabriela Party.

**[08:06:25.320] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-007555)  
The Honorable Elago is recognized.

**[08:06:33.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007557)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:06:36.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007558)  
Unang-una, maari ba nating malaman kung ano ang tindig ng NCIP hinggil sa Pax Silica Initiative,

**[08:06:43.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007559)  
lalong-lalo na sa magiging epekto nito sa mga kalupaan at kabuhayan ng mga katutubo?

**[08:06:57.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007560)  
So, ngayon po, Madam Speaker, tayo ay nakikipag-coordinate pa po tayo sa BCDA.

**[08:07:27.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007561)  
At sa mga IPs. Kasi pa nga po, wala pa pong klaro na itong Pax Silica nito.

**[08:07:38.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007562)  
Ibig sabihin nito, Mr. Speaker, wala pa tayo ngayong datos kung anong mga lugar,

**[08:07:44.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007563)  
gano'ng kalawak sa saklaw ng pagtatayuan ng Pax Silica ang may nakatirang mga katutubo?

**[08:07:50.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007564)  
O meron na po bang datos dito ang NCIP? Kung ilang mga pamilya, individual, ang apektado?

**[08:07:57.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007565)  
At kung ano-ano din ang mga potensyal na environmental risk at epekto o banta sa pamumuhay ng mga katutubo?

**[08:08:13.160] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007566)  
Madam Speaker, NCIP conducted a community dialogue on August 7, 2026,

**[08:08:23.880] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007567)  
relayed the community's concerns to BCDA.

**[08:08:27.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007568)  
And continues to coordinate with the community.

**[08:08:32.840] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007569)  
Their application is currently under review by the Provincial Delineation Team.

**[08:08:40.400] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007570)  
The AITA-Hanggi Community in Sitio Sapang, Hawayan, Barangay Aranguren, Kapas, Tarlac.

**[08:08:50.700] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007571)  
The August 2026 census identified

**[08:08:57.700] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007572)  
83 households with 950 individuals.

**[08:09:04.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007573)  
Mr. Speaker, maari po ba tayong makahingi ng kopya ng ulat na ito ng inyong naisagawa na validation?

**[08:09:11.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007574)  
At sa nabanggit niyo ko na ginawang dialog sa community noong nakaraang buwan,

**[08:09:18.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007575)  
ano-ano po yung mga nakalap ninyong mga hinahing mula sa AITA community?

**[08:09:27.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007576)  
Ano pa na?

**[08:09:39.180] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007577)  
Nabimigay na.

**[08:10:14.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007578)  
Sa ngayon po ay, Mr. Speaker, sila ay nangangamba sa kanilang katayuan.

**[08:10:16.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007579)  
Kaya po, baka sila ay mapaalis at nagtatanong sila sa status ng kanilang

**[08:10:27.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007580)  
Ancestral domain.

**[08:10:31.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007581)  
Napakahalaga na ang concern na ito ng mga katutubong AITA, Mr. Speaker, na naipaabot tungkol sa kanilang lupa, tungkol po sa issue ng displacement.

**[08:10:45.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007582)  
Ngayon po, sinabi rin ng NCIP sa kanilang pahayag noong magkaroon po kayo ng dialogo nga sa TARLAC nitong August 8, 2026.

**[08:10:56.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007583)  
And I quote,

**[08:10:58.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007584)  
Hindi mababaliwala ang mga hinahing na ito.

**[08:11:01.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007585)  
Ipapaabot ito sa Basis Conversion and Development Authority, kasama ang kahilingan para sa sapat at malinaw na impormasyon tungkol sa Paxilica Project.

**[08:11:12.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007586)  
End of quote.

**[08:11:13.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007587)  
Mula po ba sa inyong pahayag na ito, meron na bang ginawang aksyon ang NCIP tungkol sa hinahing ng mga katutubo na paabot na sa BCDA?

**[08:11:25.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007588)  
Okay.

**[08:11:26.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007589)  
Pagpapaabot, meron na po ba kayong ginawang interventions para naman matugunan ang mga nilapit na hinahing sa atin?

**[08:11:48.600] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007606)  
Nakipag-meeting po ang NCIP noong August 7, 2026 at September 3, 2026 sa Sitio Binyayan

**[08:12:04.500] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007620)  
upang ipaabot ang concerns ng komunidad.

**[08:12:23.800] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007637)  
At pinanindigan po ang kanilang karapatan sa BCDA.

**[08:12:38.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007640)  
Meron po bang asagot na dito ang BCDA?

**[08:12:41.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007641)  
At mahalaga ito, Mr. Speaker, dahil isang ayon din po sa mga katutubo,

**[08:12:45.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007642)  
hindi lamang buhay at kabuhayan nila ang nanganganib sa pagtatayo ng site ng Paxilica Initiative,

**[08:12:52.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007643)  
kundi pati ang kanilang kultura at kasaysayan.

**[08:12:54.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007644)  
Kabilang na ang libingan ng kanilang mga ninuno o mga ancestral graves na maaaring makukay sa proseso ng konstruksyon.

**[08:13:04.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007645)  
Anong masasabi dito ng NCIP at ano ang mga hakbang na balak gawin?

**[08:13:09.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007646)  
Ngayon po ay patuloy ang konsultasyon sa BCDA at sa mga IPs na apektado po itong project na ito.

**[08:13:22.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007647)  
Ang mahalagang hakbang dito, Ginong Speaker, hindi lang matapos sa konsultasyon,

**[08:13:33.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007648)  
pero paano natin titiyakin na yung mga nakuha natin na mga issues, concerns, mga hinain mula sa ating mga katutubo,

**[08:13:43.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007649)  
ay matiyak natin na may agarang aksyon, matitiyak natin na maiimpluensyahan talaga nila kung ano man yung mga desisyon,

**[08:13:51.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007650)  
na may kinalaman.

**[08:13:52.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007651)  
At may kinalaman dito sa Paxilica.

**[08:13:54.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007652)  
Kasi po, hindi dapat tayo pumayag na na-konsulta, narinig lang natin yung kanilang mga issues at concerns,

**[08:14:02.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007653)  
ngunit hindi naman natin gagawin, natindigan kung ano ba yung kanilang posisyon sa issue na ito.

**[08:14:10.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007654)  
Kaya po, hiyaanin niyo po ako na magtanong din tungkol sa isang bagay na mahalaga dito sa issue ng konsultasyon,

**[08:14:19.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007655)  
ng pagkuha ng Free Prior Informed Consultation.

**[08:14:22.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007656)  
At tungkol sa revised guidelines ng NCIP, ang Gabriela Women's Party ay tumitindig na hindi po kami pumapanig na mailabas ang revised guidelines na ito.

**[08:14:41.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007657)  
Na nabanggit din kanina ng ating mga kasamahan na nakita natin na may pag-fast track sa mga assemblies consultation.

**[08:14:51.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007658)  
Ang pagpapabilis ng period ng consensus building na salungat sa tradisyon ng mga katutubo sa pagbubuo.

**[08:15:00.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007659)  
ng desisyon.

**[08:15:02.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007660)  
Ito po, sa amin pong

**[08:15:03.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007661)  
paninindigan at posisyon

**[08:15:06.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007662)  
ay magpapahina lamang sa

**[08:15:07.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007663)  
proteksyon sa mga katutubo

**[08:15:10.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007664)  
at kanilang mga lupain.

**[08:15:12.380] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007665)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:15:14.580] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007666)  
ang ACIP po

**[08:15:16.420] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007667)  
ay

**[08:15:17.980] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007668)  
committed po

**[08:15:21.700] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007669)  
natayuan

**[08:15:22.600] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007670)  
ang rights ng ating mga IPs.

**[08:15:25.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007671)  
Ngayon, Mr. Speaker, narinig

**[08:15:31.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007672)  
ng NCIP na marami din pong

**[08:15:33.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007673)  
mga naipapaabot sa inyo na

**[08:15:35.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007674)  
mga concerns,

**[08:15:37.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007675)  
pagtutol, strong opposition

**[08:15:39.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007676)  
dito sa revised guidelines

**[08:15:41.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007677)  
ng FPIC.

**[08:15:43.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007678)  
Meron bang balak gawin

**[08:15:45.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007679)  
ang NCIP tungkol dito?

**[08:15:55.880] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007680)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:16:07.340] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007681)  
na-address na po

**[08:16:08.420] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007682)  
ang bagay na yan

**[08:16:09.300] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007683)  
na ganoon po ng

**[08:16:11.620] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007684)  
mahabang konsultasyon.

**[08:16:15.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007685)  
Sa posisyon

**[08:16:17.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007686)  
ng kinatawan na ito,

**[08:16:20.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007687)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:16:22.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007688)  
kung hindi natin

**[08:16:23.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007689)  
mababasura, kung hindi magagawa

**[08:16:25.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007690)  
yung mga dapat gawin

**[08:16:27.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007691)  
para matiyak na

**[08:16:29.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007692)  
mauuna ang interes ng mga katutubo,

**[08:16:32.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007693)  
ang kasalukuyan

**[08:16:33.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007694)  
na revised guidelines

**[08:16:35.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007695)  
ng FPIC magsisilbi

**[08:16:37.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007696)  
lamang sa mga malalaking kumpanya

**[08:16:39.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007697)  
na nais makinabang

**[08:16:41.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007698)  
mula sa mga lupang ninuno.

**[08:16:43.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007699)  
Hindi ito free,

**[08:16:45.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007700)  
prior, and informed consent

**[08:16:47.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007701)  
guidelines, kundi

**[08:16:48.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007702)  
fast-track, profit-driven,

**[08:16:51.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007703)  
at ill-informed consent.

**[08:16:53.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007704)  
Sa kabilang banda,

**[08:16:54.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007705)  
nais ko lang pong linawin

**[08:16:56.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007706)  
for the record,

**[08:16:58.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007707)  
ang Paxilica, wala pa pong

**[08:17:00.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007708)  
FPIC, tama po ba?

**[08:17:04.160] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007709)  
Wala pa, wala pa.

**[08:17:07.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007710)  
For the record, Mr. Speaker,

**[08:17:09.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007711)  
ang Paxilica,

**[08:17:11.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007712)  
dito po sa mga lugar

**[08:17:12.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007713)  
na nabanggit ng NCIP,

**[08:17:15.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007714)  
walang FPIC,

**[08:17:17.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007715)  
wala pang environmental

**[08:17:18.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007716)  
impact assessment,

**[08:17:20.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007717)  
walang environmental compliance certificate,

**[08:17:22.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007718)  
walang detailed feasibility,

**[08:17:24.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007719)  
ito sa kasalukuyan

**[08:17:27.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007720)  
ang estado ng Paxilica.

**[08:17:29.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007721)  
Kung kaya, patuloy na tumitindig

**[08:17:32.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007722)  
ang aming kinatawan

**[08:17:33.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007723)  
para i-rehistro

**[08:17:35.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007724)  
ang pagtutol sa Paxilica

**[08:17:37.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007725)  
dahil sa epekto nito

**[08:17:39.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007726)  
sa buhay, kabuhayan,

**[08:17:41.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007727)  
kultura, sa karapatan ng mga katutubo,

**[08:17:44.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007728)  
nandyan din ang epekto

**[08:17:45.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007729)  
sa kalikasan, gayon din

**[08:17:47.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007730)  
sa lupang agrikultural

**[08:17:48.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007731)  
dito sa ating bansa.

**[08:17:50.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007732)  
Hinahamon natin ang NCIP

**[08:17:52.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007733)  
na tunay na tumindig

**[08:17:54.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007734)  
sa Paxilica.

**[08:17:54.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007735)  
panig sa interes

**[08:17:56.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007736)  
ng mga katutubo

**[08:17:57.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007737)  
bilang pangunahing mandato

**[08:17:59.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007738)  
ng komisyon na ito.

**[08:18:02.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007739)  
Ngayon naman,

**[08:18:03.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007740)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:18:05.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007741)  
committed po ang NCIP

**[08:18:07.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007742)  
sa issue ng

**[08:18:09.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007743)  
mapanirang pagmimina

**[08:18:11.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007744)  
at quarrying.

**[08:18:13.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007745)  
Paano po inaaksyonan

**[08:18:15.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007746)  
ng NCIP

**[08:18:16.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007747)  
ang mga issues

**[08:18:18.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007748)  
na may kinalaman po sa mapanirang

**[08:18:20.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007749)  
mining at quarrying?

**[08:18:21.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007750)  
Kung nakikita po natin

**[08:18:23.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007751)  
ang malaki,

**[08:18:23.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007752)  
ang epekto nito

**[08:18:25.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007753)  
sa mamamayang katutubo

**[08:18:26.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007754)  
at sa kanilang mga lupang nino.

**[08:18:31.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007755)  
Meron po bang mekanismo,

**[08:18:33.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007756)  
polisiya,

**[08:18:35.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007757)  
at proyekto

**[08:18:35.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007758)  
ang ating

**[08:18:36.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007759)  
komisyon?

**[08:18:40.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007760)  
Alinsunod sa issue na ito?

**[08:18:43.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007761)  
Meron po ba kayo

**[08:18:44.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007762)  
ngayong datos

**[08:18:45.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007763)  
kung ilang IPs

**[08:18:48.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007764)  
ang affected ng

**[08:18:49.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007765)  
mapanirang na pagmimina

**[08:18:51.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007766)  
at quarrying projects?

**[08:18:53.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007767)  
At kung

**[08:18:53.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007768)  
makakapagbigay na kayo

**[08:18:55.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007769)  
ng mas kongkretong datos

**[08:18:56.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007770)  
sa active mining

**[08:18:58.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007771)  
and quarrying projects,

**[08:18:59.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007772)  
mas mainam?

**[08:19:12.000] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007773)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:19:14.600] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007774)  
the agency's mandate

**[08:19:16.640] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007775)  
is to protect the rights

**[08:19:18.780] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007776)  
and interests

**[08:19:19.840] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007777)  
of ICC's

**[08:19:21.940] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007778)  
IPs whenever

**[08:19:23.780] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007779)  
a mining,

**[08:19:25.260] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007780)  
energy,

**[08:19:26.820] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007781)  
infrastructure,

**[08:19:29.440] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007782)  
or other projects may affect them

**[08:19:31.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007783)  
or their ancestral domains.

**[08:19:35.400] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007784)  
FPIC

**[08:19:36.040] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007785)  
is not a mechanism

**[08:19:37.940] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007786)  
to facilitate

**[08:19:40.360] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007787)  
the approval of a project.

**[08:19:43.340] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007788)  
It is a rights protection

**[08:19:44.620] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007789)  
mechanism that allows

**[08:19:46.880] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007790)  
the affected community

**[08:19:48.180] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007791)  
to make its own decision.

**[08:19:52.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007792)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:19:53.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007793)  
kung maaari ho tayong makakuha ng datos mula sa NCIP,

**[08:19:57.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007794)  
kung ano ba yung mga active mining at quarrying projects,

**[08:20:01.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007795)  
at kung ilan pong IPs yung affected

**[08:20:04.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007796)  
ng mga proyekto na ito na ma-submit sa ating kapulungan,

**[08:20:08.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007797)  
sa ating House Committee on Appropriations,

**[08:20:11.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007798)  
sa ating relevant committees para mapag-aralan natin

**[08:20:17.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007799)  
kung ano pa yung mga dapat gawin

**[08:20:19.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007800)  
para mapunan yung gaps

**[08:20:20.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007801)  
pagdating sa pagtitiyak na yung kanilang boses, yung kanilang interes

**[08:20:23.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007802)  
ang mauuna sa lahat ng mga proyekto na ito.

**[08:20:27.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007803)  
Ngayon naman, Mr. Speaker, sa iba naman din pong mahalagang issue,

**[08:20:33.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007804)  
itong February 2026, opisyal na napumirma ang Pilipinas sa Memorandum of Understanding

**[08:20:39.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007805)  
on Critical Mineral Supply Chains, kung saan required ang mga bansa na mag-provide ng supply

**[08:20:46.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007806)  
ng raw and processed critical minerals sa isa't isa, sa pamamagitan ng mining, exploration, at marami pang iba.

**[08:20:55.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007807)  
Meron na po bang pag-aaral ang NCIP kung paano po nito maapektuhan yung ating mga indigenous peoples?

**[08:21:02.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007808)  
At meron na po ba kayong tindig o posisyon sa nasabing MOU?

**[08:21:08.060] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007809)  
Yung po unang katanungan nyo, yung sa data, ibibigay po nila sa inyo.

**[08:21:16.880] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007810)  
within a week.

**[08:21:38.620] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007811)  
Ang FPIC po ay isang requirement.

**[08:21:44.860] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007812)  
sa mga

**[08:21:46.880] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007813)  
mining project.

**[08:21:49.960] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007814)  
Doon po natin sila mamomonitor.

**[08:21:54.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007815)  
Sa ngayon wala pa po kayong pag-aaral tungkol dito?

**[08:21:58.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007816)  
Wala pa po.

**[08:21:58.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007817)  
Wala pa kayong posisyon?

**[08:21:59.820] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007818)  
Wala pa po.

**[08:22:01.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007819)  
Pwede nyo bang pag-aaralan at magkaroon ng posisyon dito ang NCIP?

**[08:22:05.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007820)  
Kasi po, katulad nung nabanggit natin kanina, sa kasalukuyan marami ng active mining projects

**[08:22:11.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007821)  
at nababahala tayo dun sa effect nito sa ating mga indigenous peoples.

**[08:22:16.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007822)  
Kaya po, kung may ganitong bagong MOU na may kinalaman sa pagsusupply ng critical minerals,

**[08:22:24.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007823)  
raw at processed, dapat mapag-aaralan po natin.

**[08:22:27.800] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007824)  
Pag-aaralan po ng NCIP para po ma-improve.

**[08:22:32.760] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007825)  
Pero ang IPs po ang magdidesign.

**[08:22:37.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007826)  
Yes.

**[08:22:37.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007827)  
Opo, yan naman po ang nararapat.

**[08:22:40.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007828)  
Matiyak natin kung ano mismo yung kanilang pagtingin, yung kanilang posisyon.

**[08:22:46.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007829)  
Dating po sa MOU na ito.

**[08:22:48.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007830)  
Kaya nga po, mahirap po na napirmahan na.

**[08:22:52.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007831)  
Pero hindi po, kumbaga, narinig yung boses ng most affected peoples, areas, and communities na ating mga indigenous peoples.

**[08:23:03.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007832)  
Ngayon naman po, pagdating po sa pag-aaral na tungkol po sa situation ng pag-commit sa right to education.

**[08:23:16.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007833)  
Quality and accessible education ng mga indigenous peoples.

**[08:23:21.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007834)  
Meron na po ba kayong datos kung paano po matitiyak yung access sa education at all levels ng ating indigenous peoples?

**[08:23:34.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007835)  
At paano po kayong nakikipagtulungan halimbawa sa DepEd?

**[08:23:39.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007836)  
Meron po silang last miles schools program.

**[08:23:42.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007837)  
Ang CHED din po, may particular na programa.

**[08:23:46.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007838)  
Para sa paggamit ng higher education ng mga students na IPs.

**[08:23:54.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007839)  
Pwede po ba kayong magbahagi sa atin kung ano yung mga initiatives ng NCIP para mapunan ang education gap at masolusyonan ang inaccessibility pa rin ng learning at education sa ating bansa?

**[08:24:16.360] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007840)  
Sa PAMANA po, 1,372 beneficiaries.

**[08:24:30.900] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007841)  
Sa SAP, 2,080 po ang beneficiaries.

**[08:24:37.040] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007842)  
Labing apat po yung project.

**[08:24:40.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007843)  
Mr. Speaker, hingin po natin ang datos na yan, ang lahat ng mga detalye.

**[08:24:45.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007844)  
Gayun din po.

**[08:24:45.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007845)  
Pagdating sa trabaho, kabuhayan, pati na rin sa sektor ng agrikultura, mahalaga po yan kasi napapansin po natin sa maraming mga budget proposals at sa mga tinatalakay natin ngayong mga programa.

**[08:24:59.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007846)  
Lagi pong naiiwan yung pagtitiyak na ang mga servisyo ay abot kamay din sa ating mga indigenous peoples.

**[08:25:08.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007847)  
Kaya po, hingin po natin ang datos na yan at challenge, hindi lang po sa NCIP.

**[08:25:15.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007848)  
Kapulungan na ito, natitiyakin sa lahat po ng oras ay hindi lang po included, pero matiyak natin, hindi lang yung inclusivity, pero dapat meron ding priority sa lahat po ng mga nananatili, na underserved ng mga communities dito sa ating bansa.

**[08:25:34.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007849)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor.

**[08:25:40.180] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-007850)  
Thank you, Honorable Ilago. Majority Leader.

**[08:26:07.800] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-007851)  
I would like to suspend for a few minutes.

**[08:26:14.000] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-007851-split-2)  
Session suspended.

**[08:26:32.800] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-007852)  
Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

**[08:26:36.500] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-007853)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Antonio Tinio.

**[08:26:45.740] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-007854)  
of the Partylist Act Teachers to interpelate on the proposed budget of the NCIP.

**[08:26:54.220] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-007855)  
The Honorable Antonio Tino of Partylist Act Teachers is recognized. Please proceed.

**[08:27:19.810] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007856)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Um,

**[08:27:25.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007858)  
Well, Mr. Speaker, tanong natin sa NCIP, ano po ang magiging involvement?

**[08:27:30.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007859)  
Or kasalukuyang involvement ng NCIP sa Paxilica?

**[08:27:53.900] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007860)  
Ang ginagawa po natin ay coordination po sa mga IPs para po,

**[08:28:00.620] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007861)  
nilang social safeguards.

**[08:28:03.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007862)  
Social safeguards. Ano pong ibig sabihin nun?

**[08:28:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007863)  
Well, ilinaw po natin bakit natin natanong ang Paxilica?

**[08:28:12.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007864)  
Dahil alam natin isang mahalagang component, malaking component ng Paxilica,

**[08:28:17.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007865)  
ayon na rin sa paliwanag ng gobyerno, ay yung critical minerals.

**[08:28:24.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007866)  
So, merong aspeto ng advanced manufacturing, sabi nila,

**[08:28:30.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007867)  
yung mga semiconductors, AI-related,

**[08:28:34.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007868)  
pero isang component din yung critical mineral supply chain.

**[08:28:40.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007869)  
At alam natin, ang ibig sabihin yan sa konteksto ng Pilipinas ay mining.

**[08:28:48.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007870)  
Tama po ba?

**[08:28:50.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007871)  
At alam naman natin, pag sinabing mining,

**[08:28:52.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007872)  
ay kadalasan,

**[08:28:55.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007873)  
masasaklaw o mahahagi po nito,

**[08:28:59.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007874)  
ang mga lupang ninuno.

**[08:29:02.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007875)  
Hindi po ba?

**[08:29:03.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007876)  
Kaya ang sinasabi nyo, ang papel ng NCIP ay pagtiyak ng,

**[08:29:09.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007877)  
ano yung sabi nyo kanina?

**[08:29:12.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007878)  
Ano po yung term na ginamit nyo?

**[08:29:16.900] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007879)  
Social safeguards po.

**[08:29:18.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007880)  
Social safeguards.

**[08:29:21.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007881)  
So, tama po bang intindi ko?

**[08:29:22.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007882)  
Ibig sabihin, kung yung lupain nila, lupang ninuno,

**[08:29:27.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007883)  
ay yan ang magiging target ng pagbimina NCIP.

**[08:29:33.520] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007884)  
Tutubo po ang magdi-desisyon kung papayagan o hindi ang proyekto.

**[08:29:39.120] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007885)  
Okay.

**[08:29:40.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007886)  
So, kaya nga po, napakahalaga nung free prior informed consent.

**[08:29:46.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007887)  
Tama po?

**[08:29:47.240] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007888)  
Tama po.

**[08:29:48.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007889)  
At kung hindi pumayag,

**[08:29:51.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007890)  
hindi tuloy.

**[08:29:52.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007891)  
Tama po ba?

**[08:29:53.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007892)  
Dahil legal requirement,

**[08:29:55.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007893)  
yung FPIC,

**[08:29:56.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007894)  
tama po?

**[08:29:57.840] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007895)  
Okay.

**[08:30:00.000] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007896)  
Hindi po tatalikura ng NCIP ang mandato sa pagpapatupad ng FPIC kung ang proyekto ay nasa loob po ng lupaing ninuno.

**[08:30:14.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007897)  
Hindi pa payag. Paano po? Pakiulit po.

**[08:30:18.920] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007898)  
Hindi po tatalikura ng NCIP ang mandato sa pagpapatupad ng FPIC

**[08:30:26.540] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007899)  
kung ang proyekto po ay nasa loob ng lupaing ninuno.

**[08:30:32.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007900)  
Okay. Thank you for that.

**[08:30:33.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007901)  
Okay. Nung February 4 po, 2026, ay nilagdaan ng gobyerno ng Pilipinas,

**[08:30:49.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007902)  
particular ng DNR at saka ng United States,

**[08:30:54.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007903)  
represented by the Undersecretary of State, Jacob Helberg.

**[08:31:03.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007904)  
At sa Pilipinas naman, ay dating nung panahon yun, siya pa yung Secretary of Environment and Natural Resources,

**[08:31:14.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007905)  
si Rafael Perpetuo Lutila.

**[08:31:16.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007906)  
Si Rafael Perpetuo Lutila.

**[08:31:17.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007907)  
Tinirmahan po nila yung Philippines-US Memorandum of Understanding

**[08:31:23.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007908)  
on Critical Minerals.

**[08:31:26.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007909)  
Tama po ba yun?

**[08:31:33.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007910)  
Tama po. Pinirmahan po.

**[08:31:36.240] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007911)  
Tama po. Okay.

**[08:31:38.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007912)  
Ngayon, kasama po sa mga probisyon nung understanding yung number three regarding permitting,

**[08:31:48.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007913)  
the participants are taking measures to accelerate,

**[08:31:52.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007914)  
streamline,

**[08:31:53.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007915)  
or deregulate permitting timelines and processes,

**[08:32:00.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007916)  
including obtaining permits for critical minerals and rare earth mining,

**[08:32:08.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007917)  
separation and processing within their respective domestic regulatory systems consistent with applicable law.

**[08:32:16.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007918)  
Kasi isa yun sa mga probisyon nung Memorandum of Understanding.

**[08:32:21.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007919)  
So yung pagpapabilis daw po,

**[08:32:23.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007920)  
ng permitting,

**[08:32:25.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007921)  
pagkuhan ng permit,

**[08:32:27.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007922)  
para nga matuloy yung mine.

**[08:32:28.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007923)  
Kasama po ba sa prosesong ito,

**[08:32:31.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007924)  
yung pag-obtain ng FPIC?

**[08:32:37.700] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007925)  
Hindi po.

**[08:32:39.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007926)  
Hindi po?

**[08:32:39.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007927)  
Hindi po.

**[08:32:40.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007928)  
So baka kakuha ka ng permit kahit walang FPIC, ganun po ba?

**[08:32:48.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007929)  
Walang consent?

**[08:32:50.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007930)  
Walang katibayan ng consent?

**[08:32:51.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007931)  
Hindi po.

**[08:32:52.640] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007932)  
Hindi po.

**[08:32:53.620] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007933)  
Hindi.

**[08:32:54.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007934)  
Hindi makakakuha.

**[08:32:55.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007935)  
Hindi po.

**[08:32:56.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007936)  
Hindi nga po.

**[08:32:58.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007937)  
So no permit.

**[08:33:00.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007938)  
No consent, no permit.

**[08:33:02.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007939)  
Tama po.

**[08:33:04.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007940)  
So kasama sa proseso.

**[08:33:06.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007941)  
Kasama sa proseso ng permitting na tinatawag sa section 3 na ito,

**[08:33:13.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007942)  
yung permitting timelines and processes.

**[08:33:20.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007943)  
No?

**[08:33:22.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007944)  
Obtaining permits.

**[08:33:23.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007945)  
For critical minerals and rare earth mining.

**[08:33:26.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007946)  
So kasama po yan.

**[08:33:28.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007947)  
Sa mga kailangan.

**[08:33:30.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007948)  
Sino mang gusto magmina,

**[08:33:32.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007949)  
maraming dadaanan.

**[08:33:34.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007950)  
Meron sa DNR, alam natin yan.

**[08:33:36.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007951)  
Sa LGU, kailangan mo.

**[08:33:38.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007952)  
Pero kailangan din sa indigenous communities

**[08:33:42.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007953)  
through the FPIC.

**[08:33:45.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007954)  
Tama po ba?

**[08:33:47.680] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007955)  
Kung nasa loob po ng ancestral domain,

**[08:33:52.500] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007956)  
ay kailangan.

**[08:33:53.620] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007957)  
At hindi po maaaring isakripisyo ng ang FPIC

**[08:33:57.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007958)  
bilang substantive rights

**[08:34:00.400] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007959)  
na makatutubo para sa pagpapabilis ng permit.

**[08:34:04.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007960)  
Okay.

**[08:34:05.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007961)  
So ito po nilagdaan noong Pebrero.

**[08:34:08.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007962)  
February 4, 2026.

**[08:34:13.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007963)  
Signed in Washington, February 4, 2026.

**[08:34:17.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007964)  
At kasama nga po yung binasa kong provision

**[08:34:22.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007965)  
on permit.

**[08:34:23.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007966)  
So ito po nilagdaan noong February 4, 2026.

**[08:34:23.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007967)  
Permitting the participants,

**[08:34:25.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007968)  
meaning the Philippine government,

**[08:34:28.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007969)  
are taking measures to accelerate,

**[08:34:30.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007970)  
streamline,

**[08:34:31.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007971)  
or deregulate permitting timelines and processes.

**[08:34:34.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007972)  
Okay.

**[08:34:35.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007973)  
Ngayon, naging kontrobersyal po

**[08:34:37.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007974)  
na nag-issue kayo ng revised guidelines

**[08:34:42.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007975)  
on FPIC.

**[08:34:44.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007976)  
Tama po ba?

**[08:34:53.600] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007977)  
So yung po'ng 2026 FPIC guidelines,

**[08:35:04.940] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007978)  
it went through along an extensive process

**[08:35:09.460] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007979)  
of review and consultation.

**[08:35:13.160] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007980)  
The review started as early as 2016.

**[08:35:17.380] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007981)  
Based on our records,

**[08:35:20.220] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007982)  
there were 32 documented

**[08:35:23.300] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007983)  
consultation and engagement activities,

**[08:35:29.500] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007984)  
including 20 Commission en banc review and deliberation sessions,

**[08:35:34.700] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007985)  
and major stakeholder consultations

**[08:35:37.800] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007987)  
in Mindanao, Luzon and Visayas.

**[08:35:41.300] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-007989)  
Hindi po ito minadali.

**[08:35:44.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007997)  
Yes, I am aware of that, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:35:47.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007998)  
Ginoong sponsor, dahil sine-search ko po sa internet

**[08:35:49.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007999)  
at may mga nakita nga tayong mga dokumento,

**[08:35:51.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008000)  
sa internet.

**[08:35:53.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008006)  
na nga tayong mga dokumento, ng mga draft

**[08:35:55.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008007)  
revisions,

**[08:35:57.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008008)  
dating, ah yung nakita ko,

**[08:35:59.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008009)  
isa, dating from, I think it was 2024.

**[08:36:02.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008010)  
So, I am

**[08:36:03.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008011)  
aware na may

**[08:36:05.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008012)  
prosesong tinagdaanan nito.

**[08:36:08.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008013)  
Ang isang comment ko,

**[08:36:10.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008014)  
pumunta ko sa inyong website,

**[08:36:11.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008015)  
sa website ng

**[08:36:12.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008016)  
NCIP, tila wala

**[08:36:15.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008017)  
po doon, yung

**[08:36:17.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008018)  
revised guidelines.

**[08:36:20.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008019)  
Bakit po ganun? Parang hindi updated

**[08:36:21.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008020)  
yung website nyo

**[08:36:23.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008021)  
with the latest issuances.

**[08:36:29.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008022)  
Can you confirm na hindi available

**[08:36:31.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008023)  
sa website?

**[08:36:33.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008024)  
Yung napakahalagang

**[08:36:35.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008025)  
guidelines na ito na sabi nyo,

**[08:36:37.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008026)  
kayo na rin nagsabi,

**[08:36:39.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008027)  
2016,

**[08:36:41.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008028)  
2016 pa ba nagsimula?

**[08:36:43.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008029)  
Yung proseso?

**[08:36:44.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008030)  
Hindi pa po kasi ito published.

**[08:36:46.420] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008031)  
Kaya hindi pa po effective.

**[08:36:48.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008032)  
Ah, hindi pa published.

**[08:36:50.560] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008033)  
Okay.

**[08:36:51.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008034)  
Pero tapos na.

**[08:36:53.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008035)  
Tapos na yung proseso.

**[08:36:55.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008036)  
Publication na lang. Ganun po ba?

**[08:36:58.060] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008037)  
A-approve na lang po ng commission and bank.

**[08:37:00.360] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008038)  
A-approve na ng commission and bank.

**[08:37:02.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008039)  
A-approve na ng commission

**[08:37:03.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008040)  
and bank, pero

**[08:37:05.260] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008041)  
hindi pa lang pinapublish.

**[08:37:08.140] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008042)  
Okay. Kailan po in-approve

**[08:37:09.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008043)  
ng commission and bank?

**[08:37:14.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008044)  
Kailan po? May 1.

**[08:37:16.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008045)  
May 1.

**[08:37:16.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008046)  
May 1. June, July,

**[08:37:19.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008047)  
August, September.

**[08:37:21.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008048)  
4 buwan na po

**[08:37:23.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008049)  
hindi nyo pa pinapublish.

**[08:37:26.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008050)  
Anong explanation po nun?

**[08:37:28.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008051)  
Ganun ba talaga katagal

**[08:37:29.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008052)  
ang N-C-I-P

**[08:37:33.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008053)  
between

**[08:37:34.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008054)  
and bank decision

**[08:37:35.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008055)  
and publication para maging effective?

**[08:37:38.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008056)  
4 buwan bago mapublish?

**[08:37:40.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008057)  
Ganun po ba?

**[08:37:41.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008058)  
Isang dahilan po, ay in-incorporate pa

**[08:37:43.960] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008059)  
ang mga comment.

**[08:37:46.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008060)  
In-approve na,

**[08:37:48.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008061)  
paano yan? In-approve na

**[08:37:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008062)  
ng N-Bank,

**[08:37:51.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008063)  
pero may

**[08:37:52.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008064)  
in-incorporate pa

**[08:37:54.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008065)  
na comments.

**[08:37:57.200] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008066)  
Kasi po, pinahold ng committee

**[08:37:59.420] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008067)  
yung publication

**[08:38:01.180] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008068)  
para i-incorporate

**[08:38:03.580] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008069)  
yung mga comment.

**[08:38:04.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008070)  
Pinahold po nino?

**[08:38:09.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008071)  
Abay, N-Bank yan. Sino nagpa-hold sa N-Bank?

**[08:38:13.840] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008072)  
Pinahold po ng committee on

**[08:38:15.840] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008073)  
IPs

**[08:38:17.780] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008074)  
at parang

**[08:38:19.240] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008075)  
You mean Congress?

**[08:38:20.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008076)  
Yes, Congressional Committee.

**[08:38:24.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008077)  
Aling committee po?

**[08:38:25.320] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008078)  
Dito po, dito po sa atin.

**[08:38:26.720] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008079)  
Sorry?

**[08:38:27.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008080)  
Dito po, pinahold.

**[08:38:30.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008081)  
Okay.

**[08:38:31.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008082)  
Well, of course, ultimately, hindi naman po pwedeng

**[08:38:34.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008083)  
wala na, hindi naman

**[08:38:38.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008084)  
maaaring mag-utos

**[08:38:40.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008085)  
ang Kongreso sa

**[08:38:42.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008086)  
komisyon, diba? So siguro,

**[08:38:44.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008087)  
nagpahayag

**[08:38:45.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008088)  
na may mga concerns.

**[08:38:48.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008089)  
So, mukhang

**[08:38:50.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008090)  
bisisyon ng komisyon

**[08:38:52.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008091)  
na i-hold muna

**[08:38:55.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008092)  
ang publication.

**[08:38:56.980] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008093)  
Tama po, tama po.

**[08:38:57.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008094)  
Okay. Pero

**[08:38:59.380] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008095)  
For refinement.

**[08:39:01.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008096)  
For refinement. Okay.

**[08:39:03.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008097)  
So, in other words, parang in-approve na N-Bank

**[08:39:06.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008098)  
pero mukhang magkakaroon pa ng

**[08:39:07.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008099)  
refinement, sabi nyo.

**[08:39:10.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008100)  
Okay.

**[08:39:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008101)  
So, nilabas po ito nung Mayo.

**[08:39:14.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008102)  
Tama po. Nilabas nung

**[08:39:16.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008103)  
Mayo, yung N-Bank disisyon.

**[08:39:18.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008104)  
Anong exact date po? May...

**[08:39:20.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008105)  
May 1. May 1,

**[08:39:22.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008106)  
2026, an N-Bank

**[08:39:24.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008107)  
disisyon, pero may mga habol. So,

**[08:39:26.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008108)  
four months later ay hindi pa rin

**[08:39:28.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008109)  
published

**[08:39:30.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008110)  
and therefore, hindi pa rin effective.

**[08:39:32.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008111)  
Tama po. However, the most

**[08:39:34.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008112)  
controversial

**[08:39:34.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008113)  
element

**[08:39:38.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008114)  
or component

**[08:39:39.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008115)  
nung disisyon na hindi pa

**[08:39:42.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008116)  
published ay

**[08:39:43.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008117)  
pinaiksi to 30 days.

**[08:39:46.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008118)  
Tama po ba?

**[08:39:47.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008119)  
Yung buong proseso...

**[08:39:49.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008120)  
Hindi po.

**[08:39:50.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008121)  
To obtain

**[08:39:51.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008122)  
yung

**[08:39:55.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008123)  
pre-prior informed consent.

**[08:39:58.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008124)  
Please clarify.

**[08:40:18.320] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008125)  
Yung dalawang buwan po nang...

**[08:40:20.260] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008126)  
Ang 2012 guidelines

**[08:40:22.120] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008127)  
ay naging

**[08:40:23.920] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008128)  
60 working days na.

**[08:40:26.540] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008129)  
Mas bahaba

**[08:40:27.300] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008130)  
sa 2026 guidelines.

**[08:40:30.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008131)  
Okay. Naging

**[08:40:31.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008132)  
60 days.

**[08:40:33.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008133)  
60 working days.

**[08:40:35.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008134)  
60 working days.

**[08:40:37.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008135)  
However,

**[08:40:40.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008136)  
walang however?

**[08:40:43.180] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008137)  
Wala.

**[08:40:43.420] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008138)  
Wala po.

**[08:40:46.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008139)  
Parang absolute... Tama po ba?

**[08:40:47.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008140)  
Absolute deadline. Yung 60 days.

**[08:40:50.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008141)  
Kasi po, may itong mekanisim

**[08:40:53.260] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008142)  
para sa extension of time.

**[08:40:56.460] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008143)  
Kung sa mga ayon

**[08:40:57.860] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008144)  
ang komunidad at aplikante.

**[08:41:00.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008145)  
Okay. Kasi po, sa mga

**[08:41:02.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008146)  
reports na lumabas, unfortunately,

**[08:41:05.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008147)  
hindi nyo pinablish. Kaya

**[08:41:06.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008148)  
nagre-rely po tayo mainly sa

**[08:41:08.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008149)  
reports. Sinasabi po

**[08:41:10.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008150)  
ay kaya nga may mga

**[08:41:12.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008151)  
nagpo-protesta ay parang

**[08:41:14.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008152)  
pinaiksi. Kinumpress yung

**[08:41:16.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008153)  
timeline

**[08:41:18.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008154)  
nung proseso.

**[08:41:19.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008155)  
So, ang sinasabi nyo po, hindi

**[08:41:21.340] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008156)  
Hindi po, hindi po.

**[08:41:23.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008157)  
Hindi ganon. Naging 60

**[08:41:25.320] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008158)  
Hindi po, totoo yun.

**[08:41:27.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008159)  
So, kaya nga, mula... Ang sinasabi

**[08:41:29.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008160)  
nyo mula 30 days, naging 60 days.

**[08:41:31.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008161)  
Ganon po ba?

**[08:41:33.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008162)  
Opo, opo, opo.

**[08:41:34.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008162-split-2)  
Opo. Okay.

**[08:41:39.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008163)  
Okay. Well, kaya nga po,

**[08:41:41.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008164)  
ang concern natin

**[08:41:42.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008165)  
ay

**[08:41:43.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008166)  
may commitment

**[08:41:47.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008167)  
ng gobyerno na

**[08:41:49.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008168)  
pabilisin

**[08:41:50.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008169)  
ang proseso ng permitting.

**[08:41:53.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008170)  
At ang concern natin ay baka

**[08:41:55.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008171)  
eto na nga yung

**[08:41:57.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008172)  
ginagawa ngayon

**[08:41:58.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008173)  
ng NCIP.

**[08:42:02.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008174)  
Ang commitment

**[08:42:03.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008175)  
ng Marcos

**[08:42:05.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008176)  
Junior Administration,

**[08:42:07.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008177)  
yes, okay kami sa Paxilica,

**[08:42:10.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008178)  
yes, okay kami sa

**[08:42:11.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008179)  
critical minerals

**[08:42:13.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008180)  
mining. Ang hinihingi

**[08:42:15.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008181)  
ng mga Amerikano

**[08:42:16.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008182)  
para mag-invest sila,

**[08:42:19.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008183)  
sa critical minerals,

**[08:42:20.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008184)  
ay pabilisin nyo naman yung permitting nyo.

**[08:42:24.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008185)  
No? And therefore,

**[08:42:25.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008186)  
kasama na doon,

**[08:42:27.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008187)  
hindi lang yung tumatagal

**[08:42:29.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008188)  
sa DNR, tumatagal sa

**[08:42:31.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008189)  
LGU, kasama rin po yung

**[08:42:33.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008190)  
sa

**[08:42:34.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008191)  
indigenous communities.

**[08:42:38.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008192)  
No? Kaya po,

**[08:42:40.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008193)  
kinatanong natin,

**[08:42:41.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008194)  
baka naman ang mangyari, yung

**[08:42:43.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008195)  
revision nyo

**[08:42:44.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008196)  
ay

**[08:42:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008197)  
kukumporme.

**[08:42:49.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008198)  
Sa

**[08:42:49.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008199)  
commitment

**[08:42:51.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008200)  
dito sa Paxilica.

**[08:42:56.880] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008201)  
Yung pong certificate of

**[08:42:58.300] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008202)  
precondition, it is not a permit.

**[08:43:02.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008203)  
Okay.

**[08:43:05.280] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008204)  
It is a validation

**[08:43:07.320] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008205)  
of ICC's

**[08:43:09.060] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008206)  
consent. Okay.

**[08:43:11.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008207)  
Yes, we understand it's not a permit.

**[08:43:13.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008208)  
So, hindi directly tinutukoy. Pero para

**[08:43:15.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008209)  
makakuha ng permit,

**[08:43:16.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008210)  
rekisito po yung, yan, hindi po ba?

**[08:43:19.300] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008211)  
Tama po.

**[08:43:21.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008212)  
Tama. At pag wala, pag hindi nakuha yan,

**[08:43:24.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008213)  
no permit will be

**[08:43:25.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008214)  
issued. Correct?

**[08:43:27.180] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008215)  
Correct po. Tama po.

**[08:43:28.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008216)  
So, hopefully, nakakaintindihan na tayo.

**[08:43:31.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008217)  
Naintindihan naman natin,

**[08:43:33.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008218)  
hindi

**[08:43:33.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008219)  
NCIP

**[08:43:37.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008220)  
ang nag-i-issue ng permit.

**[08:43:39.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008221)  
Pero, para makakuha ng

**[08:43:41.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008222)  
permit, kailangan yung

**[08:43:43.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008223)  
proof na may

**[08:43:45.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008224)  
consent yung community.

**[08:43:47.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008225)  
Diba? Tama po.

**[08:43:48.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008226)  
O, yun.

**[08:43:49.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008227)  
Nakakaintindihan naman tayo. So, therefore,

**[08:43:52.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008228)  
yung

**[08:43:53.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008229)  
commitment ng gobyerno sa mga

**[08:43:55.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008230)  
Amerikano, pabibilisin namin

**[08:43:57.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008231)  
ang permitting

**[08:43:58.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008232)  
para mas mainganyo

**[08:44:01.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008233)  
ang mga US

**[08:44:03.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008234)  
investors into the

**[08:44:05.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008235)  
critical mineral sector, yung

**[08:44:07.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008236)  
tinatawag nilang critical mineral sector,

**[08:44:10.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008237)  
inevitably,

**[08:44:12.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008238)  
mahahagi po

**[08:44:13.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008239)  
ang gawain

**[08:44:15.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008240)  
ng NCIP.

**[08:44:17.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008241)  
Yun lang po sinasabi natin.

**[08:44:19.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008242)  
Di po ba?

**[08:44:25.300] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008243)  
Hindi po natin

**[08:44:26.800] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008244)  
isasakripisyo

**[08:44:28.160] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008245)  
yung substantive rights

**[08:44:30.260] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008246)  
ng mga IPs.

**[08:44:32.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008247)  
Okay. Well, at least, that's on the record

**[08:44:34.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008248)  
na hindi isasakripisyo.

**[08:44:36.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008249)  
Okay. Ngayon,

**[08:44:38.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008250)  
kongkreto na po. Di yung

**[08:44:39.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008251)  
Paxilica, nababanggit na

**[08:44:42.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008252)  
ang mukhang ang unang-unang proyekto

**[08:44:44.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008253)  
nito na kongkreto ay yung

**[08:44:46.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008254)  
sa New Clark City. Di po ba?

**[08:44:48.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008255)  
No?

**[08:44:49.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008256)  
At may more or less

**[08:44:51.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008257)  
1,600 hectares na

**[08:44:53.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008258)  
identified na

**[08:44:54.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008259)  
sa

**[08:44:56.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008260)  
mainly sa Kapas, Tarlac.

**[08:45:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008261)  
At sabi ng BCDA, at ng New Clark City, wala raw pong maapektuhang indigenous communities sa area na tinatarget ng Paxilica project na ito.

**[08:45:27.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008262)  
At totoo po ba yun?

**[08:45:30.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008263)  
At sumasang-ayon po ba ang NCIP sa ganong pahayag ng BCDA?

**[08:45:38.200] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008264)  
Meron po, meron maapektuhan.

**[08:45:40.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008265)  
Merong maapektuhan?

**[08:45:45.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008266)  
Gano'ng karami pong IPs ang maapektuhan? At sino-sino sila? Anong mga grupo po ito?

**[08:45:53.280] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008267)  
83 households with 950 individuals.

**[08:46:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008268)  
83 households with?

**[08:46:03.380] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008269)  
900, 950 individuals.

**[08:46:06.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008270)  
950 individuals.

**[08:46:09.300] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008271)  
Sa sityo, sa pangkawayan.

**[08:46:11.640] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008272)  
Yun.

**[08:46:12.440] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008273)  
Barangay Aranguren, Kapas Tarlac.

**[08:46:14.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008274)  
Okay.

**[08:46:18.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008275)  
Meron pong, dumaan po ba sa proseso ng pag-obtain ng free prior informed consent?

**[08:46:27.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008276)  
Ang mga IPs na ito, IP communities?

**[08:46:30.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008277)  
IPs na ito.

**[08:46:30.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008278)  
Yun po, yung sasabang pawayan at iba pa.

**[08:46:32.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008279)  
Nakakausap po namin actually ang mga yan.

**[08:46:37.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008280)  
Madalas na po sila dito sa Maynila dahil nga sa issue ng Paxilica.

**[08:46:41.780] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008281)  
Wala pa po, wala pa po.

**[08:46:43.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008282)  
Walang free, wala pa.

**[08:46:45.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008283)  
O malinaw po ah.

**[08:46:47.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008284)  
Wala pang free prior.

**[08:46:48.300] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008285)  
Wala pa po kasi po, wala pa naman yung proyekto.

**[08:46:51.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008286)  
Dahil, wala pa dahil wala pa yung proyekto.

**[08:46:55.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008287)  
Okay.

**[08:46:55.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008288)  
Pero kinikilala nyo na meron talagang,

**[08:47:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008289)  
IP community diyan.

**[08:47:02.000] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008290)  
Opo, meron.

**[08:47:03.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008291)  
Okay.

**[08:47:04.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008292)  
At kinakailangan, bago matuloy,

**[08:47:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008293)  
ang,

**[08:47:08.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008294)  
ano bang proyekto?

**[08:47:11.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008295)  
Tama po?

**[08:47:12.900] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008296)  
Continuous po ang dialogue sa BCDA.

**[08:47:15.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008297)  
Okay.

**[08:47:17.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008298)  
Continuous ang dialogue sa BCDA.

**[08:47:20.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008299)  
Okay, so wala pa.

**[08:47:21.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008300)  
Tama naman, wala pang.

**[08:47:23.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008301)  
Well, wala pa pero,

**[08:47:26.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008302)  
paano po yan? May mga pinapaalis na.

**[08:47:27.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008303)  
Aware po ba ang NCIP doon?

**[08:47:33.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008304)  
Kaya nga nagra-rally na po ang mga,

**[08:47:35.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008305)  
nagra-rally na po ang mga mamamayan doon,

**[08:47:41.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008306)  
including yung mga indigenous peoples.

**[08:47:44.360] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008307)  
Sa ngayon po, wala pa pong pinapaalis at hindi po tayo papayag.

**[08:47:49.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008308)  
Okay, so sinasabi nyo wala pang pinapaalis.

**[08:47:54.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008309)  
However, meron ng mga,

**[08:47:56.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008310)  
aware tayo na meron ng mga sulat na pinapadala

**[08:48:02.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008311)  
ang

**[08:48:03.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008312)  
BCDA.

**[08:48:06.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008313)  
Let me see.

**[08:48:08.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008314)  
For example,

**[08:48:10.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008315)  
ito po.

**[08:48:14.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008316)  
Dated

**[08:48:15.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008317)  
8 July 2026.

**[08:48:20.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008318)  
Ito'y sa sitio Rivera, Barangay Santa Lucia, Capas Tarlac.

**[08:48:24.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008319)  
Siyang residente ron.

**[08:48:26.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008320)  
Hindi ko na po babasahin yung pangalan, pero ang nakalagay po rito: ayon sa mga nakalap na datos sa census survey na naitala ng aming opisina, ang inyong lupang inokupahan na matatagpuan sa Sitio Rivera, Barangay Santa Lucia, Capas, Tarlac ay maapektuhan ng proyektong New Clark City.

**[08:48:51.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008321)  
Kaya po ay malugod namin kayong inaanyayahan

**[08:48:56.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008322)  
na makipag-ugnayan sa aming opisina upang mapag-usapan ang mga prosesong pagdadaanan ng proyekto, kasama rito ang anumang tulong na maipagkakaloob ng gobyerno.

**[08:49:11.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008323)  
Inaasahan namin ang inyong tugon pagkatapos ng pagtanggap ng liham na ito.

**[08:49:17.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008324)  
Ang aming opisina ay matatagpuan sa etc. etc. yung mag-meeting daw.

**[08:49:25.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008325)  
Ah...

**[08:49:26.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008326)  
Inaasahan po namin ang inyong kasagutan sa loob ng sampung araw mula sa petya ng pagtanggap ng liham na ito.

**[08:49:37.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008327)  
At meron pa sa dulo.

**[08:49:43.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008328)  
Okay.

**[08:49:45.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008329)  
Maraming salamat po sa inyong pakikisa at pakikipagtulungan para sa pagsulong ng kaunlaran ng bayan ng Capas at lalawigan ng Tarlac.

**[08:49:56.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008330)  
At ang sinasabi rito, may proyekto at pag-uusapan na yung anumang tulong na mapagkakaloob ng gobyerno.

**[08:50:08.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008331)  
Eh alam na po natin ibig sabihin ng tulong na yun.

**[08:50:11.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008332)  
Yung po kasing...

**[08:50:12.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008333)  
Papaalisin ka na.

**[08:50:13.880] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008334)  
Yung po kasing Santa Lucia.

**[08:50:16.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008335)  
Opo.

**[08:50:16.840] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008336)  
Hindi po bahagi ng CADT.

**[08:50:19.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008337)  
Hindi bahagi ng CADT.

**[08:50:22.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008338)  
CADT.

**[08:50:22.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008339)  
Okay.

**[08:50:24.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008340)  
Ano po ang bahagi ng CADT?

**[08:50:26.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008341)  
Well, ito isang sampo lang po nang nakuha natin.

**[08:50:31.940] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008342)  
Ang pinag-uusapan po natin, yung sityo sa pangkawayan, Paranggay Aranguren, Capas Tarlac.

**[08:50:40.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008343)  
Okay.

**[08:50:42.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008344)  
At wala pong CADT.

**[08:50:43.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008345)  
Hindi po covered ng CADT ang area na yan.

**[08:50:48.140] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008346)  
Ang Santa Lucia po, ang hindi pahagi ng CADT.

**[08:50:52.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008347)  
Pero yung mga nabanggit niyo po,

**[08:50:53.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008348)  
covered po ba ng CADT?

**[08:50:56.030] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008349)  
Ito pong sa Barangay Aranguren, ito po yung may claim.

**[08:51:02.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008350)  
May claim?

**[08:51:04.200] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008351)  
Hindi po ba may claim?

**[08:51:05.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008352)  
Okay.

**[08:51:08.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008353)  
Tama po.

**[08:51:09.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008354)  
Teka.

**[08:51:10.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008355)  
Hinahanap ko yung claim.

**[08:51:11.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008356)  
Ito po.

**[08:51:12.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008357)  
Tama po.

**[08:51:13.200] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008358)  
Meron pong claim.

**[08:51:14.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008359)  
Ito po ba yung claim ng Ita-Hungay?

**[08:51:15.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008360)  
Yes.

**[08:51:16.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008361)  
Opo.

**[08:51:17.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008362)  
Opo.

**[08:51:18.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008363)  
Okay.

**[08:51:21.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008364)  
Nag-apply po sila for CADT, original application year 1999.

**[08:51:26.800] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008369)  
Tama po.

**[08:51:27.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008370)  
Pero resubmission date February 5, 2021.

**[08:51:33.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008371)  
So ni-resubmit na po sa inyo.

**[08:51:38.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008372)  
NCIP certification and endorsement issued March 2021 by NCIP Region 3.

**[08:51:46.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008373)  
Barangays covered:

**[08:51:48.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008374)  
Aranguren, Capas; Cutcut II,

**[08:51:50.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008375)  
o Kalangitan, Capas;

**[08:51:52.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008376)  
O'Donnell, Capas;

**[08:51:54.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008377)  
Santa Lucia,

**[08:51:56.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008378)  
Santa Lucia, Capas;

**[08:52:01.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008399)  
Anupol,

**[08:52:01.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008400)  
Bamban. Tama po?

**[08:52:05.200] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008405)  
Hindi po.

**[08:52:06.200] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008406)  
Mali po. Hindi po tama.

**[08:52:07.900] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008408)  
Ano po ang nasa inyo?

**[08:52:09.400] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008409)  
May hawak din po tayong dokumento eh.

**[08:52:11.600] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008410)  
Hindi po covered ng CADT ang Santa Lucia.

**[08:52:15.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008411)  
Ng application, you mean?

**[08:52:17.400] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008412)  
Nag-amend po sila ng application,

**[08:52:20.600] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008413)  
yung mismo mga Aeta.

**[08:52:24.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008416)  
Ito nga po, yung application na ito, yun po ang coverage. Pero sinasabi ninyo, hindi.

**[08:52:31.340] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008417)  
2022 po.

**[08:52:33.600] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008418)  
Nag-amend ang Santa Lucia.

**[08:52:37.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008419)  
Ah, nag-amend. So, ano, inalis na po yung Santa Lucia?

**[08:52:42.060] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008420)  
Opo, opo.

**[08:52:42.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008421)  
Ah, okay. Anyway, pero yung mga ibang ito ay may application. Tama po?

**[08:52:50.180] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008422)  
Pahagi po yun.

**[08:52:51.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008423)  
Pahagi. Ano po ang status ng application?

**[08:52:56.440] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008424)  
The claim remains under processing due to overlapping claims with BCDA titled areas.

**[08:53:07.080] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008425)  
Funding requirement for CADT processing, incomplete supporting evidence, requiring further validation, and internal community issues that need to be resolved.

**[08:53:21.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008426)  
Okay. So, may mga issues pa po. So, may conflicting claims ang grupo ng ITA na ito with BCDA itself. Tama po ba?

**[08:53:34.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008427)  
Tapos may mga iba pang issue na binanggit kayo. Tama po?

**[08:53:38.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008428)  
Okay.

**[08:53:39.540] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008429)  
Tama po, tama po.

**[08:53:40.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008430)  
Pero ngayon, yung subject na, yung gusto nilang, yung ina-applyan nila, yun mismo, yung area na sasaklawin ng Paxilica Project.

**[08:53:51.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008431)  
Tama po ba?

**[08:53:52.400] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008432)  
Tama po, tama po.

**[08:53:53.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008433)  
O, yun na nga. Kahit yung Santa Lucia, yung sinasabi nyo, merong ibang application eh.

**[08:54:02.540] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008434)  
Ang tinanggal po yung mga residential areas.

**[08:54:05.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008435)  
Opo. Pero ang point po natin, meron po mga ITA dyan. At maaring sabihin, eh wala pa.

**[08:54:11.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008436)  
Pending pa yung CADT application nila. In the meantime, pinapaalis na nga po.

**[08:54:21.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008437)  
Ayun na nga eh. Bebinasa ako kanina na sulat ng BCDA. Sabi, punta ka dito sa opisina, pag-usapan natin yung tulong na ibibigay sa inyo.

**[08:54:30.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008438)  
Meaning, bibigyan ka na lang ng relocation fee.

**[08:54:36.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008439)  
So, paano po tayo ngayon? Paano ngayon yung mga IP na nandyan? Tandaan po natin, ang mga nandyan po, mga ITA, according to historical and genetic records, talagang isa sa mga unang,

**[08:54:51.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008440)  
unang inhabitants ng kapuluan. Di po ba?

**[08:54:57.140] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008441)  
Wala po. Wala pong information ang NCIP. Ang nakakaalam po diyan ay ang BCDA.

**[08:55:08.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008442)  
Wala, sorry po. Wala pong information?

**[08:55:11.420] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008443)  
Wala silang information [unclear].

**[08:55:13.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008444)  
Ah, wala pong ano? Pakiulit lang po.

**[08:55:16.860] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008445)  
Wala pong official information

**[08:55:21.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008446)  
ang NCIP sa pagpapaalis po.

**[08:55:24.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008447)  
Ah, walang information sa pagpapalis.

**[08:55:26.860] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-008448)  
Ang nakakasagot po dyan ay ang BCDA.

**[08:55:29.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008449)  
Okay. Well, ang mungkahi po natin, dahil sabi nyo, meron kayo kaninang commitment na itindigan nyo yung karapatan ng mga IP,

**[08:55:41.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008450)  
yung mungkahi po natin ay puntahan nyo na.

**[08:55:46.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008451)  
Dahil, ayun na nga po, yung mga IP na ito mismo, yung mga nag-apply,

**[08:55:51.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008452)  
no, pabanggitin ko na po yung pangalan, nung kanilang chieftain ang tawag po nila dyan eh,

**[08:55:59.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008453)  
si Apong Pet, ayan, nakikita ko po. Kilala po ba yan ng NCIP?

**[08:56:04.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008454)  
Opo. Ayan, si Chieftain Petronila C. Mu?oz, CADT representative, no.

**[08:56:11.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008455)  
Eh, sila po, no, ang pinagkukuna natin ng informasyon, no.

**[08:56:20.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008456)  
So,

**[08:56:21.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008457)  
So, well, kasama po sila sa dialog.

**[08:56:26.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008458)  
Kasama sa dialog. Kaya nga po, at kasama rin sila sa mga nangunguna sa pagprotesta,

**[08:56:34.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008459)  
kontra sa Paxilica Project at, ayan na nga, sa mga ginagawang panggigipit.

**[08:56:42.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008460)  
No, yung sinasabi nila, kahit yung access, yung mga access roads sa kanilang mga community,

**[08:56:51.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008461)  
minsan hinaharangan, and so on, hindi na madaling makapasok, no,

**[08:56:56.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008462)  
ang mga naisumuporta sa kanilang laban dahil naghihigpit na po ang BCDA, yung New Clark City, dito.

**[08:57:07.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008463)  
No, so, Mr. Speaker, alam ko, tapos na po ang oras natin.

**[08:57:14.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008464)  
So, hinahighlight lang po natin dito, no, na may direktang banta,

**[08:57:21.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008465)  
ang Paxilica Project sa karapatan ng mga IP dahil ang unang-unang tatargetin ay critical minerals areas,

**[08:57:32.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008466)  
meaning yung mga lupain mismo ng mga indigenous peoples.

**[08:57:37.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008467)  
At kahit nga, sa kaso ng New Clark City, hindi naman daw minahan ito, pero malinaw na mga IP communities din,

**[08:57:50.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008468)  
particular sa mga barangay at sityo na nabanggit natin, ang direktang maapektuhan.

**[08:57:56.300] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008469)  
Honorable Tinio, with your indulgence, your time has expired.

**[08:58:01.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008470)  
Yes, Speaker.

**[08:58:02.260] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008471)  
Wrap up.

**[08:58:03.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008472)  
I am wrapping up.

**[08:58:05.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008473)  
So, kaya po, yan po ang hamon natin at binabantayan po natin ang NCIP sa isyong ito.

**[08:58:14.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008474)  
Hindi tayo, hindi natin tatanggapin na ang mangyari pa ang NCIP,

**[08:58:19.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008475)  
ang...

**[08:58:20.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008476)  
magfafacilitate at magra-rubber stamp sa nais ng U.S. at ng gobyerno Marcos na pabilisin

**[08:58:30.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008477)  
ang pagbubukas at pagmimina sa mga lupain natin, lalo na sa mga lupang ninuno, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:58:41.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008478)  
With that, maraming salamat po.

**[08:58:42.980] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008479)  
Thank you, Honorable Tinio, Majority Leader.

**[08:58:50.320] Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas** (asr-008480)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Rene Co for her manifestation.

**[08:58:59.240] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008481)  
The Honorable Rene Co is recognized. Please proceed.

**[08:59:04.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008482)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker, at magandang gabi po sa ating butihing sponsor.

**[08:59:10.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008483)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, manifestasyon na lang po ang ihahain ng representasyong ito.

**[08:59:20.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008484)  
Bago po magtapos ang pag-uusap tungkol sa budget ng NCIP.

**[08:59:25.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008485)  
Sa katotohanan, Mr. Speaker, hindi po maganda ang mga napakaraming reports na nakuha natin sa mga indigenous communities

**[08:59:34.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008486)  
na nakakaranas ng harassment sa mga large mining companies dahil po sa mga itinatayo doon gustong protektahan ng ating mga katutubo,

**[08:59:46.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008487)  
yung kanilang mga lupain, yung kalikasan.

**[08:59:49.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008488)  
Pero dahas at even lawfare yung hinaharap sa kanila.

**[08:59:55.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008489)  
Ang ilan pong mga nakikita nating mga kaso ay yung

**[09:00:00.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008490)  
nakaharap ngayon ng mga katutubo

**[09:00:02.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008491)  
sa Kasibu,

**[09:00:04.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008492)  
Nueva Vizcaya,

**[09:00:05.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008493)  
kung saan ang North Luzon

**[09:00:07.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008494)  
Mineral Resources Corporation

**[09:00:09.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008495)  
ay gusto rin pong i-exploit

**[09:00:11.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008496)  
ang ancestral lands.

**[09:00:13.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008497)  
Ngunit nga po,

**[09:00:15.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008498)  
sa progress ng

**[09:00:17.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008499)  
pagkakaso nila ay may certificate

**[09:00:19.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008500)  
of non-overlap

**[09:00:21.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008501)  
na in-issue ang NCIP na hanggang

**[09:00:23.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008502)  
ngayon ay kinokontest po nila ito

**[09:00:25.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008503)  
via petition sa

**[09:00:27.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008504)  
ahensya.

**[09:00:30.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008505)  
Meron din po tayong

**[09:00:31.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008506)  
nakuhang concerns

**[09:00:33.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008507)  
galing sa mga residente ng Bulalakaw

**[09:00:36.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008508)  
at Ginawang ng Benguet

**[09:00:38.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008509)  
na apektado ng mining

**[09:00:40.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008510)  
activities ng Crescent Mining and Development

**[09:00:42.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008511)  
Corporation na nung una po

**[09:00:44.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008512)  
bumoto laban sa proyekto

**[09:00:46.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008513)  
pero yung botohan na po

**[09:00:48.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008514)  
yun ay pinalawak

**[09:00:50.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008515)  
sa ibang mga barangay

**[09:00:51.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008516)  
na diniliot yung opposition

**[09:00:54.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008517)  
of the host communities.

**[09:00:56.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008518)  
Sila rin po ay may pending na

**[09:00:58.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008519)  
kaso sa NCIP.

**[09:01:00.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008520)  
At inaalala din po namin

**[09:01:01.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008521)  
yung kaso ng mga indigenous peoples

**[09:01:04.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008522)  
o yung mga bugkalot

**[09:01:05.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008523)  
sa Dupaks del Norte, Nueva Vizcaya

**[09:01:07.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008524)  
laban po sa Woggle Corporation

**[09:01:09.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008525)  
at sila po in particular ay

**[09:01:11.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008526)  
mas aggrieved dahil sila po ay mga

**[09:01:13.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008527)  
katutubo na galing po sa mga

**[09:01:15.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008528)  
kataas-taasan ng Cordillera

**[09:01:17.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008529)  
na puwersa na displaced

**[09:01:19.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008530)  
sa Nueva Vizcaya dahil po sa mga

**[09:01:21.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008531)  
pagmimina pa po nung 1980s

**[09:01:24.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008532)  
at wala pang IPRA

**[09:01:25.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008533)  
wala pang NCIP

**[09:01:27.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008534)  
wala pong recurso tuloy silang mapuntahan

**[09:01:30.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008535)  
mahanapan para po

**[09:01:31.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008536)  
ma-assert yung kanilang mga

**[09:01:33.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008537)  
natanggal na karapatan

**[09:01:35.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008538)  
for ancestral lands and domains.

**[09:01:38.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008539)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[09:01:39.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008540)  
good sponsor, many communities

**[09:01:41.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008541)  
who also resist these corporations

**[09:01:43.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008542)  
are red-tagged and faced

**[09:01:45.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008543)  
with multiple lawsuits

**[09:01:47.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008544)  
yet the NCIP

**[09:01:49.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008545)  
has done little

**[09:01:51.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008546)  
to protect indigenous peoples

**[09:01:53.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008547)  
and advocates.

**[09:01:55.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008548)  
So hanggang ngayon po, Mr. Speaker,

**[09:01:57.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008549)  
good sponsor,

**[09:02:00.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008550)  
marami tayong mga tanong

**[09:02:01.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008551)  
pero dahil natanong na rin po

**[09:02:04.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008552)  
ang mga tanong na yun

**[09:02:05.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008553)  
ng ating mga ibang colleagues

**[09:02:07.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008554)  
sa kanilang mga

**[09:02:09.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008555)  
interpellations,

**[09:02:11.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008556)  
for now, I'd just like to note

**[09:02:13.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008557)  
on the record that

**[09:02:15.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008558)  
this representation, among others,

**[09:02:18.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008559)  
are also left unsatisfied

**[09:02:19.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008560)  
with the questions.

**[09:02:21.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008561)  
Nonetheless, there being no further

**[09:02:24.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008562)  
questions from the minority,

**[09:02:26.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008563)  
I move to terminate the period

**[09:02:28.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008564)  
of interpellation.

**[09:02:30.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008565)  
For the National Commission on Indigenous Peoples

**[09:02:32.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008566)  
or NCIP.

**[09:02:33.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008567)  
Sana po ay makuha na lang po

**[09:02:36.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008568)  
ng ating mga colleagues

**[09:02:37.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008569)  
yung nire-request na impormasyon

**[09:02:40.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008570)  
ng NCIP

**[09:02:41.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008571)  
sa kagyat na panahon.

**[09:02:44.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008572)  
So moved, Mr. Chair.

**[09:02:46.920] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008573)  
What does the House say?

**[09:02:51.940] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-008574)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[09:02:54.000] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-008575)  
the part of the majority,

**[09:02:56.260] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-008576)  
we join the minority

**[09:02:57.840] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-008577)  
in the motion to terminate.

**[09:03:00.000] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-008578)  
The period of interpellations

**[09:03:02.020] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-008579)  
on the proposed budget

**[09:03:03.760] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-008580)  
of the NCIP.

**[09:03:06.680] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008581)  
There is a joint

**[09:03:07.980] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008582)  
motion to terminate

**[09:03:09.840] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008583)  
the interpellations on the proposed

**[09:03:12.280] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008584)  
budget of the National

**[09:03:14.080] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008585)  
Commission on Indigenous Peoples.

**[09:03:17.320] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008586)  
Is there any objection?

**[09:03:19.300] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008587)  
The Chair hears none.

**[09:03:20.680] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008588)  
The interpellations on the proposed

**[09:03:22.120] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008589)  
budget of the National

**[09:03:24.000] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008590)  
Commission on Indigenous Peoples

**[09:03:25.920] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008591)  
is terminated.

**[09:03:28.380] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008592)  
Majority leader.

**[09:03:34.920] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008593)  
[unclear]

**[09:03:37.140] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008594)  
Motion suspended.

**[09:03:38.840] Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.** (asr-008595)  
Session suspended.