WEBVTT asr-000003 00:01:16.350 --> 00:01:19.920 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Session suspended. asr-000044 00:20:49.560 --> 00:20:52.800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. Majority. asr-000044-split-2 00:20:52.800 --> 00:20:56.800 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, Madam Speaker. asr-000044-split-3 00:20:56.800 --> 00:20:58.600 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: What's the pleasure of the Honorable Tiangco? asr-000044-split-4 00:20:58.600 --> 00:21:01.760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Parliamentary inquiry, Madam Speaker. asr-000045 00:21:01.760 --> 00:21:05.120 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: What's the parliamentary inquiry of the Honorable Tiangco? asr-000045-split-2 00:21:05.120 --> 00:21:15.280 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, gusto ko lang po malaman kung bakit nilipat po from September 24 ang budget ng House at naging September 17 po. asr-000045-split-3 00:21:15.280 --> 00:21:19.120 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Your question is bakit nilipat yung— asr-000045-split-4 00:21:19.120 --> 00:21:33.630 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Sa original schedule po na nilabas noong September 15, ang original schedule po ng budget ng House is on September 24. Ang nangyari po niyan, inilipat po yan ng September 17. asr-000046 00:21:33.630 --> 00:21:37.440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So ang tanong ko po, ano po ang dahilan kung bakit po ito nilipat ng September 17? asr-000046-split-2 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:48.390 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we know from the Majority Leader if this is the only agency that the schedule has been changed or it encompasses other agencies as well? asr-000047 00:21:48.390 --> 00:21:52.000 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, it wasn't the only agency that was moved. asr-000048 00:21:52.300 --> 00:21:59.820 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: I think there were several other agencies that were moved due to requests from the other departments. asr-000049 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:02.780 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: It was actually the deferment of two agencies. asr-000050 00:22:02.780 --> 00:22:04.640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: No, Madam Speaker, can you please name the agency that was moved? asr-000051 00:22:04.820 --> 00:22:10.120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Because based on my record, ito lang po ang inusod. Ito lang po ang in-advance na ahensya. asr-000052 00:22:10.280 --> 00:22:16.760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So kung meron po, pwede pong sabihin kung ano pong ahensya yung inusod ng mas maaga yung schedule, Madam Speaker. asr-000053 00:22:17.020 --> 00:22:21.800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of the Honorable Toby Chango, can we proceed to the additional reference of business? asr-000054 00:22:22.040 --> 00:22:23.120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: No, Madam Speaker, I do not agree. asr-000055 00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:26.220 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: While we are getting the data. asr-000056 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:27.940 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: No, no, no, I do not agree. Let's suspend. asr-000057 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:32.400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended. asr-000058 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:05.240 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. asr-000059 00:23:07.180 --> 00:23:08.080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. asr-000060 00:23:08.580 --> 00:23:19.500 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, upon review of the schedule, the DOT, the PSA, and the Congress of the Philippines budget were all moved to a different schedule. asr-000061 00:23:20.340 --> 00:23:22.920 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, the DOT was moved to a later schedule. asr-000062 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:29.420 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ang tanong ko, bakit, kasi tignan niyo po, Madam Speaker, September 17 po nun, okay? asr-000063 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:34.120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: September 17, meron po naman nakaschedule ng September 18. asr-000064 00:23:34.580 --> 00:23:38.220 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Meron nakaschedule ng September 21, 22, 23. asr-000065 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:41.060 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Bakit naman doon tayo sa dulo kukuha, Madam Speaker? asr-000066 00:23:41.620 --> 00:23:46.460 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Traditionally, matagal na kayo dito, pag nag-uusod, ang kinukuha yung pinakmalapit. asr-000067 00:23:46.560 --> 00:23:47.280 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: For what reason? asr-000068 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:52.620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Para makapaghanda po yung hindi lang yung departamento, kung hindi pa rin yung mga congressmen. asr-000069 00:23:52.620 --> 00:23:59.840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kasi bakit naman po maghahanda yung congressman na mag-deliberate sa isang budget na tatalakayin pa sa September 24? asr-000070 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:05.540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Siyempre, tatalakang pag-aaralan niyo po yung September 17, September 18. Una po yan. asr-000071 00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:09.360 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of the Honorable Tavi Chanko, if you may, asr-000072 00:24:10.140 --> 00:24:15.400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: this schedule, as arranged by the Committee on Appropriations, is not deliberated in the plenary. asr-000073 00:24:15.980 --> 00:24:18.540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: This is being discussed within the Committee on Appropriations. asr-000074 00:24:18.820 --> 00:24:26.960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: So, with the indulgence of the Honorable Tavi Chanko, if he deems it proper, he can move for the session suspended. asr-000196 01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:40.680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. Majority Leader. asr-000196-split-2 01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:42.600 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move to call the roll of members. asr-000196-split-3 01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:48.280 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Secretary-General is hereby directed to call the roll of members. asr-000196-split-4 01:21:48.280 --> 01:21:51.600 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker. asr-000196-split-5 01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:52.800 Secretary-General: Roll call of members. asr-000196-split-6 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:56.400 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, I still have the floor. asr-000196-split-7 01:21:56.400 --> 01:22:00.400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: In due time, Honorable Tiangco. Roll call is ongoing; it is the highest motion. asr-000197 01:22:00.400 --> 01:22:05.520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: It cannot be disrupted. Secretary-General is directed. asr-000197-split-2 01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:29.980 Secretary-General: Abalos, Abante, Asidre, Akop, Acosta, Adyong, Advincula, Agarao, Aguiao, Alano, Alba, Albano. asr-000198 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:59.980 Secretary-General: Almario Chino Miguel, Almario Dennis, Almonte, Alvarez Jose, Alvarez Mercedes, Amante, Amatong, Angara, Angeles, Aquino, Aquino Magsaysay, Arbison Mir. asr-000199 01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:29.980 Secretary-General: Arbison Moner Jr., Enas, Arogancia, Asisto, Atideado, Austria, Barzaga, Ayon, Bago, Balindong, Nograles, Bancoro, Barba, Barbers. asr-000200 01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:59.980 Secretary-General: Baronda, Bascug, Bautista Claude, Bautista Johan, Bautista Lim, Beltran, Benitez Alfredo, Benitez Javier Miguel, Bernos Ching, Bernos GB, Biron, Bobo. asr-000201 01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:29.980 Secretary-General: Bolia, Bondoc, Bones, Bulut Tang, Cagas, Calderon, Calikto, Kawagdan, Cari, Castron, Celeste. asr-000202 01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:59.980 Secretary-General: Chanon John Almario, Chan Junard, Chua, Chua Tay, Chunggalao, Coilar, Cojuangco Jaime Eduardo, Cojuangco Mark, Colantes, Corvera, Cruz Agatha, Cruz Ricardo. asr-000203 01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:29.980 Secretary-General: Cruzado, Cua, Dagooc, Dalanghirang, Daza, de Jesus, de Lima, de Venecia, Defensor, de Gamoar, de los Santos, de Makuha, Maguila, Dimaporo Imelda, Dimaporo Sitti Amina. asr-000204 01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:59.980 Secretary-General: Diokno, Dionisio, Domingo, Domogan, Duterte Harold James, Duterte Omar Vincent, Duterte Paolo, de Faustino, Michael Carlos, de Ian Paul, Elago, Emano, Enverga, Erice, Escudero. asr-000205 01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:29.980 Secretary-General: Espares, Espina, Estrella, Ferrer Antonio, Ferrer Jeffrey, Flores, Fortun, Fresn, Fuentebella, Galang, Galeos, Garbin, Garcia Albert, Garcia Dante, Garcia Jose Arturo. asr-000206 01:26:30.000 --> 01:27:00.000 Secretary-General: Garcia Karen Hook, Garcia Maria Angela, Guardiola, Garin, Gatal, Gato, Clepa, Go, Gomez, Gonzalez Alexandra, Gonzalez Ala Micaela, Gonzalez Christopher Shin, Gonzalez Roy, Goreta, Giko, Gintu. asr-000236 01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:01.740 Secretary-General: Julias asr-000237 01:27:01.740 --> 01:27:03.820 Secretary-General: Gutierrez asr-000238 01:27:03.820 --> 01:27:06.780 Secretary-General: Hernandez Charizan asr-000239 01:27:06.780 --> 01:27:09.120 Secretary-General: Hernandez Dennis asr-000240 01:27:09.120 --> 01:27:11.580 Secretary-General: Hernandez Ferdinand asr-000241 01:27:11.580 --> 01:27:14.380 Secretary-General: Hernandez Ramil asr-000242 01:27:14.380 --> 01:27:16.580 Secretary-General: Hofer Hasim asr-000243 01:27:16.580 --> 01:27:18.480 Secretary-General: Ori Bata asr-000244 01:27:18.480 --> 01:27:20.240 Secretary-General: Ismula asr-000245 01:27:20.240 --> 01:27:21.980 Secretary-General: Iway asr-000246 01:27:21.980 --> 01:27:23.640 Secretary-General: Javier asr-000247 01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:25.420 Secretary-General: Ko Antonio asr-000248 01:27:25.420 --> 01:27:27.380 Secretary-General: Ko Elisa asr-000249 01:27:27.380 --> 01:27:30.340 Secretary-General: Ko Wilton asr-000250 01:27:30.340 --> 01:27:32.000 Secretary-General: Kung Hun asr-000251 01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:33.480 Secretary-General: Ko asr-000252 01:27:33.480 --> 01:27:35.520 Secretary-General: Labad Labad asr-000253 01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:37.540 Secretary-General: Lakson asr-000254 01:27:37.540 --> 01:27:39.360 Secretary-General: Lagbas asr-000255 01:27:39.360 --> 01:27:42.200 Secretary-General: Lagdameo Jose Manuel asr-000256 01:27:42.200 --> 01:27:46.000 Secretary-General: Lagdameo Monique Yasmin Maria asr-000257 01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:47.860 Secretary-General: Lagman asr-000258 01:27:47.860 --> 01:27:51.280 Secretary-General: Lagon Daphne asr-000259 01:27:51.280 --> 01:27:53.240 Secretary-General: Lagon Sani asr-000260 01:27:53.240 --> 01:27:55.380 Secretary-General: Lara asr-000261 01:27:55.380 --> 01:27:57.980 Secretary-General: Lazatin asr-000262 01:27:57.980 --> 01:28:00.240 Secretary-General: Ledesma asr-000263 01:28:00.240 --> 01:28:01.940 Secretary-General: Legacion asr-000264 01:28:01.940 --> 01:28:03.760 Secretary-General: Legarda asr-000265 01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:09.560 Secretary-General: Legazpi asr-000266 01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:12.300 Secretary-General: Leviste asr-000267 01:28:12.300 --> 01:28:15.280 Secretary-General: Libanan asr-000268 01:28:15.280 --> 01:28:18.100 Secretary-General: Lopez asr-000269 01:28:18.100 --> 01:28:20.640 Secretary-General: Gloria asr-000270 01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:24.340 Secretary-General: Loyola asr-000271 01:28:24.340 --> 01:28:27.240 Secretary-General: Luistro asr-000272 01:28:27.240 --> 01:28:30.560 Secretary-General: Lumayag asr-000273 01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:37.460 Secretary-General: Macapagal Arroyo asr-000274 01:28:37.460 --> 01:28:43.020 Secretary-General: Macasait asr-000275 01:28:43.020 --> 01:28:48.800 Secretary-General: Maceda asr-000276 01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:52.800 Secretary-General: Madrona asr-000277 01:28:54.340 --> 01:28:59.200 Secretary-General: Malapitan asr-000278 01:28:59.200 --> 01:29:06.760 Secretary-General: Mangudadatu asr-000279 01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:11.000 Secretary-General: Manikis asr-000280 01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:16.120 Secretary-General: Maranion asr-000281 01:29:16.120 --> 01:29:19.380 Secretary-General: Marcoleta asr-000282 01:29:24.340 --> 01:29:26.340 Secretary-General: Mendoza asr-000283 01:29:26.340 --> 01:29:28.340 Secretary-General: Marcos asr-000284 01:29:28.340 --> 01:29:30.220 Secretary-General: Marquez asr-000285 01:29:30.220 --> 01:29:32.760 Secretary-General: Mastura asr-000286 01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:35.380 Secretary-General: Matibag asr-000287 01:29:35.380 --> 01:29:40.520 Secretary-General: Matugas asr-000288 01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:43.080 Secretary-General: Mendoza asr-000289 01:29:43.080 --> 01:29:45.780 Secretary-General: Mercado asr-000290 01:29:45.780 --> 01:29:49.100 Secretary-General: Mercado Revilla asr-000291 01:29:49.100 --> 01:29:51.940 Secretary-General: Miraflores asr-000292 01:29:51.940 --> 01:29:52.300 Secretary-General: Marcos asr-000293 01:29:52.300 --> 01:29:54.300 Secretary-General: Marcos asr-000294 01:29:54.340 --> 01:29:55.520 Secretary-General: Mama asr-000302 01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:02.900 Secretary-General: Nazal asr-000303 01:30:02.900 --> 01:30:05.940 Secretary-General: Misay asr-000304 01:30:05.940 --> 01:30:10.560 Secretary-General: Nolasco asr-000305 01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:15.220 Secretary-General: Uwaminal Henry asr-000306 01:30:15.220 --> 01:30:18.960 Secretary-General: Uwaminal Sancho Fernando asr-000307 01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:22.880 Secretary-General: Olivares asr-000308 01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:25.520 Secretary-General: Ongchuan asr-000309 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:29.320 Secretary-General: Ordanez asr-000310 01:30:29.320 --> 01:30:33.180 Secretary-General: Oreta asr-000311 01:30:33.180 --> 01:30:37.280 Secretary-General: Ortega asr-000312 01:30:37.280 --> 01:30:41.200 Secretary-General: Uwano Dizon asr-000313 01:30:41.200 --> 01:30:45.080 Secretary-General: Padernos asr-000314 01:30:45.080 --> 01:30:49.760 Secretary-General: Panaligan asr-000315 01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:53.700 Secretary-General: Pancho asr-000316 01:30:53.700 --> 01:30:57.180 Secretary-General: Panotes asr-000317 01:30:59.320 --> 01:31:03.120 Secretary-General: Pascual asr-000318 01:31:03.120 --> 01:31:05.560 Secretary-General: Perez asr-000319 01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:08.960 Secretary-General: Pimentel asr-000320 01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:11.700 Secretary-General: Plaza asr-000321 01:31:11.700 --> 01:31:15.640 Secretary-General: Plato asr-000322 01:31:15.640 --> 01:31:17.980 Secretary-General: Po asr-000323 01:31:17.980 --> 01:31:20.920 Secretary-General: Primicia Sagabas asr-000324 01:31:20.920 --> 01:31:23.840 Secretary-General: Pumaren asr-000325 01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:26.380 Secretary-General: Puno asr-000326 01:31:26.380 --> 01:31:27.780 Secretary-General: Kimbo asr-000327 01:31:27.780 --> 01:31:28.980 Secretary-General: Puno asr-000328 01:31:28.980 --> 01:31:30.480 Secretary-General: Rama asr-000329 01:31:30.480 --> 01:31:36.620 Secretary-General: Recto asr-000330 01:31:36.620 --> 01:31:39.540 Secretary-General: Regencia asr-000331 01:31:39.540 --> 01:31:43.380 Secretary-General: Remulia asr-000332 01:31:43.380 --> 01:31:47.320 Secretary-General: Revilia Bryan asr-000333 01:31:47.320 --> 01:31:50.880 Secretary-General: Revilia Ramonjolo asr-000334 01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:53.480 Secretary-General: Ridon asr-000335 01:31:53.480 --> 01:31:58.000 Secretary-General: Rivera asr-000336 01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:02.020 Secretary-General: Robes asr-000344 01:32:02.020 --> 01:32:13.000 Secretary-General: Rodriguez Eulogio, Rodriguez Maximo, Rodriguez Rufus, Roman asr-000346 01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:14.720 Secretary-General: Romualdez Andrew Julian asr-000347 01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:15.880 Secretary-General: Romualdez Ferdinand Martin asr-000348 01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:16.880 Secretary-General: Romualdez Ieda Marie asr-000349 01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:23.000 Secretary-General: Romualdo asr-000354 01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:25.000 Secretary-General: Romulo asr-000357 01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:29.000 Secretary-General: Roque asr-000361 01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:34.000 Secretary-General: Sagarbarria asr-000366 01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:36.200 Secretary-General: Sakaluran asr-000369 01:32:36.200 --> 01:32:37.240 Secretary-General: Salceda asr-000373 01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:42.000 Secretary-General: Sali asr-000378 01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:45.000 Secretary-General: Salvacion asr-000381 01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:48.000 Secretary-General: Salvador asr-000385 01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:51.000 Secretary-General: Salvame asr-000388 01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:54.000 Secretary-General: San Fernando asr-000391 01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:58.780 Secretary-General: Santos Maria Alana Samantha asr-000402 01:32:58.780 --> 01:33:00.140 Secretary-General: Santos Mark Anthony, asr-000403 01:33:01.460 --> 01:33:02.000 Secretary-General: Shimura, asr-000404 01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:05.660 Secretary-General: Singson Richelle, asr-000405 01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:08.320 Secretary-General: Singson Ronald, asr-000406 01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:10.720 Secretary-General: Singson Mijan, asr-000407 01:33:11.940 --> 01:33:12.400 Secretary-General: Solon, asr-000408 01:33:13.800 --> 01:33:14.340 Secretary-General: Soriano, asr-000409 01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:16.200 Secretary-General: Suwan, asr-000410 01:33:17.780 --> 01:33:19.160 Secretary-General: Swansing Bella Vanessa, asr-000411 01:33:20.700 --> 01:33:22.600 Secretary-General: Swansing Micaela Angela, asr-000412 01:33:23.720 --> 01:33:24.320 Secretary-General: Suarez, asr-000413 01:33:25.460 --> 01:33:26.020 Secretary-General: Suntay, asr-000414 01:33:27.680 --> 01:33:28.280 Secretary-General: Taliado, asr-000415 01:33:28.780 --> 01:33:31.380 Secretary-General: Tan Ayman, asr-000416 01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:33.520 Secretary-General: Tan Joseph, asr-000417 01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:36.280 Secretary-General: Tan Keith Micah, asr-000418 01:33:37.460 --> 01:33:38.860 Secretary-General: Tan Reynolds Michael, asr-000419 01:33:40.080 --> 01:33:40.780 Secretary-General: Tan Samir, asr-000420 01:33:41.940 --> 01:33:43.020 Secretary-General: Tan Stephen James, asr-000421 01:33:44.500 --> 01:33:45.060 Secretary-General: Tan Chay, asr-000422 01:33:46.180 --> 01:33:46.940 Secretary-General: Tan Watko, asr-000423 01:33:48.120 --> 01:33:48.820 Secretary-General: Tariela, asr-000424 01:33:49.980 --> 01:33:50.560 Secretary-General: Teodoro, asr-000425 01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:52.220 Secretary-General: Tering, asr-000426 01:33:54.100 --> 01:33:54.680 Secretary-General: Tevez, asr-000427 01:33:57.240 --> 01:33:57.800 Secretary-General: Iangko, asr-000428 01:33:58.780 --> 01:33:59.780 Secretary-General: Tieng, asr-000429 01:34:01.200 --> 01:34:01.620 Secretary-General: Tino, asr-000430 01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:03.780 Secretary-General: Tolentino, asr-000431 01:34:06.140 --> 01:34:06.560 Secretary-General: Tuwan, asr-000432 01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:11.460 Secretary-General: Tulfo Jocelyn, asr-000433 01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:14.080 Secretary-General: Tulfo Ralph Wendel, asr-000434 01:34:15.500 --> 01:34:16.080 Secretary-General: Tupas, asr-000435 01:34:18.780 --> 01:34:19.260 Secretary-General: Tutor, asr-000436 01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:20.940 Secretary-General: Ti, asr-000437 01:34:22.400 --> 01:34:22.960 Secretary-General: Umali, asr-000438 01:34:24.660 --> 01:34:25.100 Secretary-General: Ungab, asr-000439 01:34:27.780 --> 01:34:28.500 Secretary-General: Uy, asr-000457 01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:31.300 Secretary-General: Roberto, asr-000458 01:34:32.020 --> 01:34:34.220 Secretary-General: Valeriano, asr-000459 01:34:35.940 --> 01:34:36.560 Secretary-General: Vargas, asr-000460 01:34:37.740 --> 01:34:40.420 Secretary-General: Vargas, asr-000461 01:34:40.540 --> 01:34:41.180 Secretary-General: Alfonso, asr-000462 01:34:42.600 --> 01:34:43.120 Secretary-General: Veloso, asr-000463 01:34:45.280 --> 01:34:45.820 Secretary-General: Veloso, asr-000464 01:34:45.940 --> 01:34:46.460 Secretary-General: Tuazon, asr-000465 01:34:48.280 --> 01:34:49.020 Secretary-General: Vergara, asr-000466 01:34:51.860 --> 01:34:52.340 Secretary-General: Villa, asr-000467 01:34:55.280 --> 01:34:56.320 Secretary-General: Villa, asr-000468 01:34:56.380 --> 01:34:56.620 Secretary-General: Villafuerte, asr-000469 01:34:56.740 --> 01:34:57.400 Secretary-General: Miguel Luis, asr-000470 01:34:58.780 --> 01:35:02.560 Secretary-General: Villafuerte Vincenzo Renato Luigi asr-000471 01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:06.320 Secretary-General: Villanueva asr-000472 01:35:06.320 --> 01:35:08.340 Secretary-General: Villarica asr-000473 01:35:08.340 --> 01:35:10.680 Secretary-General: Violago asr-000474 01:35:10.680 --> 01:35:13.040 Secretary-General: Yamsuan asr-000475 01:35:13.040 --> 01:35:15.660 Secretary-General: Yap Arthur asr-000476 01:35:15.660 --> 01:35:18.400 Secretary-General: Yap Christopherson asr-000477 01:35:18.400 --> 01:35:20.460 Secretary-General: Yap Eric asr-000478 01:35:20.460 --> 01:35:23.580 Secretary-General: Yap John Gisnell asr-000479 01:35:23.580 --> 01:35:25.320 Secretary-General: Yatko asr-000480 01:35:25.320 --> 01:35:27.520 Secretary-General: Inares asr-000481 01:35:27.520 --> 01:35:30.480 Secretary-General: Yu Giselle Victoria asr-000482 01:35:30.480 --> 01:35:33.220 Secretary-General: Yu Joseph Kim asr-000483 01:35:33.220 --> 01:35:34.940 Secretary-General: Yulo asr-000484 01:35:34.940 --> 01:35:38.040 Secretary-General: Zamora Maria Carmen asr-000485 01:35:38.040 --> 01:35:40.960 Secretary-General: Zamora Isabel Maria asr-000486 01:35:40.960 --> 01:35:42.740 Secretary-General: Zubiri asr-000516 01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:25.340 Secretary-General: Madam Speaker, the roll call shows that 228 members responded to the call. asr-000517 01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:34.980 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With 228 members responding to the call, the Chair declares the presence of a quorum. asr-000518 01:39:35.100 --> 01:39:35.760 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader? asr-000519 01:39:37.020 --> 01:39:46.380 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move to take up additional reference of business and request that the Secretary General be directed to read the titles of bills and resolutions on first reading as well as communications and committee reports. asr-000520 01:39:47.080 --> 01:39:47.820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Is there an objection? asr-000521 01:39:48.400 --> 01:39:49.580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Chair hears none. asr-000522 01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:57.200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Secretary General is hereby directed to read the titles of bills and resolutions on first reading as well as messages, communications, and committee reports. asr-000523 01:39:57.200 --> 01:39:58.860 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Referral to the appropriate committees. asr-000524 01:39:59.700 --> 01:40:07.060 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, I had a pending parliamentary inquiry, so I would like to request the Majority Leader to reply to the parliamentary inquiry. asr-000525 01:40:07.440 --> 01:40:09.740 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we know the parliamentary inquiry of the Honorable Chanko? asr-000526 01:40:10.060 --> 01:40:19.840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ang tinanong ko po kanina is kung bakit po nilipat yung budget ng House of Representatives magpula po September 24 papunta pong September 17. asr-000527 01:40:21.220 --> 01:40:26.840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: As what the Majority Leader earlier responded, the adjustment involved the proposed budget. asr-000528 01:40:27.200 --> 01:40:30.300 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The budget of the Department of Tourism and the Congress of the Philippines. asr-000529 01:40:31.500 --> 01:40:35.380 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Yes, Madam Speaker, alam ko po na hindi natuloy yung sa Department of Tourism. asr-000530 01:40:35.640 --> 01:40:44.180 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kaya lang po, ang ginagawa po natin, kaya po tayo nagbibigay ng schedules ng budget is para po makapaghanda yung mga members na magtanong. asr-000531 01:40:44.180 --> 01:40:55.680 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So kung ang budget ng House ay September 24 pa, natural po ang paghahandaan muna ay yung mga September 18, September 21. asr-000532 01:40:57.200 --> 01:40:59.620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So mas logical kung doon po humugot. asr-000533 01:40:59.860 --> 01:41:03.340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kaya lang, what was the compelling reason? Ano po yung napakahalaga? asr-000534 01:41:04.200 --> 01:41:09.800 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Bakit inuna yung budget ng House of Representatives when traditionally nasa dulo po yan? asr-000535 01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:20.160 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: As I was also the presiding during that week, distinguished colleague, the reason that the budget was adjusted was that two departments were also deferred. asr-000536 01:41:20.580 --> 01:41:24.740 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: That is DICT and DEPDEV, specifically the Philippine Statistics Authority. asr-000541 01:41:25.660 --> 01:41:33.920 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hence, the adjustment of the other budgets to an earlier schedule, citing from the motion of the minority and the majority that there were no more interpellators. asr-000542 01:41:34.940 --> 01:41:43.100 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: However, if the Hon. Changko is so much willing, we can inform the Committee on Appropriations that you be informed if in case there are other schedules. asr-000543 01:41:44.060 --> 01:41:47.740 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, may precedent na po tayo dito. asr-000544 01:41:48.780 --> 01:41:52.560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Yung budget po ng MMDA, na-terminate po yun. asr-000545 01:41:53.580 --> 01:41:56.460 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tapos, the Hon. Tino requested that asr-000546 01:41:56.460 --> 01:41:57.280 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: It be reopened. asr-000547 01:41:57.960 --> 01:41:59.500 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: And pinayagan po siya to reopen. asr-000548 01:42:00.340 --> 01:42:01.920 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, I'm asking for the same thing. asr-000549 01:42:02.200 --> 01:42:07.280 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Sa budget ng house, na sana po payagan na ma-reopen yung budget ng house. asr-000550 01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:08.700 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: For the following reasons. asr-000551 01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:20.440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Number one, noong pa lang po DBCC, on the first day, nag-request na po ako na dalhin sa committee yung budget ng house. asr-000552 01:42:21.140 --> 01:42:22.180 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ngunit hindi po pumayag. asr-000553 01:42:23.180 --> 01:42:24.980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, sa plenaryo na lang po. asr-000554 01:42:25.660 --> 01:42:26.380 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi po magandang tingin. asr-000555 01:42:26.460 --> 01:42:33.340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi po magandang tignan na ang budget ng house, eh hindi man lang pinaliwanag dito sa plenaryo at pinasa natin. asr-000556 01:42:33.720 --> 01:42:39.860 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kaya po, humihingi po ako ng reconsideration na since pinagbigyan po yung MMDA na ma-reopen, asr-000557 01:42:40.400 --> 01:42:42.500 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: eh sana ma-reopen din po yung sa house. asr-000558 01:42:42.900 --> 01:42:45.440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: At tayo ay nasa isang unique na katayuan. asr-000559 01:42:46.140 --> 01:42:51.620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tayo po ang ahensya at tayo po ang sangay ng gobyerno na may kapangyarihan sa budget. asr-000560 01:42:51.620 --> 01:42:56.440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Pero tayo lang rin ang sangay ng gobyerno na may control ng budget. asr-000561 01:42:56.460 --> 01:42:58.360 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Na gumagastos ng sariling budget. asr-000562 01:42:58.760 --> 01:43:03.900 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Yung ibang ahensya po na pupunta dito, pumupunta sila dito sa Kongreso para humingi ng pondo. asr-000563 01:43:04.760 --> 01:43:08.560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Pero hindi po pareho yung nagbibigay at nagre-release ng pondo. asr-000564 01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:12.700 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of our distinguished colleague, asr-000565 01:43:12.800 --> 01:43:15.120 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: we are still in the additional reference of business. asr-000566 01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:17.460 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: What you are referring to is under unfinished business. asr-000567 01:43:18.540 --> 01:43:21.180 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: We will go to that agenda that is third in our agenda. asr-000568 01:43:21.660 --> 01:43:23.200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Secretary General is hereby directed. asr-000569 01:43:23.200 --> 01:43:24.820 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Okay, so babalikan po natin yan after this. asr-000570 01:43:24.820 --> 01:43:25.300 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Yes. asr-000571 01:43:25.500 --> 01:43:25.800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Okay. asr-000572 01:43:25.800 --> 01:43:30.400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Secretary General again is hereby directed to read the title of bills on first reading asr-000573 01:43:30.400 --> 01:43:36.400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: as well as committee reports resolution and for referral to the appropriate committee. asr-000574 01:43:36.540 --> 01:43:37.000 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: So directed. asr-000575 01:43:38.180 --> 01:43:39.940 Secretary-General: Additional reference of business. asr-000576 01:43:40.500 --> 01:43:41.060 Secretary-General: Resolution. asr-000577 01:43:41.620 --> 01:43:43.300 Secretary-General: House Resolution 1465. asr-000578 01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:50.000 Secretary-General: Urging the DOE, the ERC, and the NGCP to fast-track, prioritize, and advance the timeline asr-000579 01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:53.600 Secretary-General: for the early completion of the Mindoro-Panay Interconnection Project asr-000580 01:43:53.600 --> 01:43:55.600 Secretary-General: to establish a power loop and ensure stability. asr-000581 01:43:55.800 --> 01:43:58.500 Secretary-General: And to establish a stable energy for Panay Island and western Visayas. asr-000582 01:43:58.940 --> 01:44:00.040 Secretary-General: Representative Baronda. asr-000583 01:44:06.140 --> 01:44:08.920 Secretary-General: To the Committee on Energy. asr-000584 01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:11.060 Secretary-General: Committee Reports. asr-000585 01:44:11.280 --> 01:44:14.400 Secretary-General: Committee Report number 643, 644, and 645. asr-000586 01:44:15.020 --> 01:44:17.120 Secretary-General: Submitted by the Committee on Youth and Sports Development asr-000587 01:44:17.120 --> 01:44:20.980 Secretary-General: on House Resolution 1462, House Bill number 11380, asr-000588 01:44:21.420 --> 01:44:23.760 Secretary-General: and House Resolution 1463, respectively. asr-000589 01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:26.780 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Committee on Rules. asr-000590 01:44:28.160 --> 01:44:28.960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. asr-000591 01:44:51.960 --> 01:44:53.720 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Suspend session for a few minutes. asr-000592 01:44:54.780 --> 01:44:55.520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended. asr-000596 01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:29.980 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. Majority Leader. asr-000597 01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:48.440 Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: Madam Speaker, I move that we resume consideration of House Bill No. 10858. asr-000597-split-2 01:46:48.440 --> 01:47:02.440 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There's a motion to resume consideration of House Bill No. 10858 as contained in Committee Report No. 638, and the Secretary-General is hereby directed to read the title of said measure. asr-000598 01:47:02.440 --> 01:47:19.760 Secretary-General: House Bill No. 10858, an act appropriating funds for the operation of the Government of the Republic of the Philippines from January 1 to December 31, 2027. asr-000598-split-2 01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:25.960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. asr-000598-split-3 01:47:25.960 --> 01:47:32.840 Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the representative of the Lone District. asr-000599 01:47:32.840 --> 01:47:37.240 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Toby Tiangco is hereby recognized. Please proceed. asr-000599-split-2 01:47:37.240 --> 01:47:57.600 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, papagpatuloy ko lang po. Inusod po yung schedule ng [unclear] po ay pinayagan po ma-reopen para makapagtanong. Dito po sa House, nagre-request po ako ng reopening. Hindi naman po siguro maganda na wala akong nakapagtanong dito sa budget ng House. asr-000599-split-3 01:47:57.600 --> 01:47:58.640 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Is it a motion? asr-000599-split-4 01:47:58.640 --> 01:48:00.960 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Yes, patapusin lang po. asr-000600 01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:29.980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Considering po na sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno, tayo po ay allowed ng liquidation by certification. So kung allowed po tayo ng liquidation by certification, mas lalong dapat ipaliwanag sa taong bayan papaano po ginagastos yung pera nila dahil hindi naman po natin ito [unclear]. So I'm asking for a motion for reconsideration to reopen the budget of the House and be presented to the plenary in the same way that it was allowed for the MMDA. asr-000601 01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:33.080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of our distinguished colleague, asr-000602 01:48:33.800 --> 01:48:39.000 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: while the proposed budget of the MMDA was indeed reconsidered asr-000603 01:48:39.620 --> 01:48:43.660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: upon the motion of the majority giving way and yielding way asr-000604 01:48:43.660 --> 01:48:47.880 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to the listed members who arrived and who wished their intention to interpolate, asr-000605 01:48:49.180 --> 01:48:52.080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: in the case of the budget of the House of Representatives, asr-000606 01:48:53.160 --> 01:48:57.320 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: it does not mean that the leadership doesn't want to discuss the proposed budget. asr-000607 01:48:57.320 --> 01:48:58.040 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: In fact, asr-000608 01:48:58.860 --> 01:48:59.820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the House is very much... asr-000609 01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:01.660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: very much willing to discuss this. asr-000610 01:49:02.360 --> 01:49:02.780 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: However, asr-000611 01:49:03.420 --> 01:49:04.060 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: if I may, asr-000612 01:49:04.440 --> 01:49:07.420 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and with respectful indulgence to our distinguished colleague, asr-000613 01:49:08.060 --> 01:49:10.840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Section 105 of our rules states, asr-000614 01:49:11.540 --> 01:49:14.800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: when a measure, report, or motion is approved, adopted, or lost, asr-000615 01:49:15.200 --> 01:49:19.160 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: a member who voted with the majority may move for its reconsideration on the same asr-000616 01:49:19.160 --> 01:49:21.180 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: or succeeding session day. asr-000617 01:49:21.780 --> 01:49:24.040 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: As we have conferred with the Secretary General, asr-000618 01:49:24.660 --> 01:49:27.300 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the Honorable Toby Chanko was on official business, asr-000619 01:49:27.300 --> 01:49:29.580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: on official travel abroad, asr-000620 01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:33.740 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: hence, with due courtesy, Honorable Toby Chanko, asr-000621 01:49:34.880 --> 01:49:37.640 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: your motion for reconsideration is out of order. asr-000622 01:49:37.640 --> 01:49:40.840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: No, Madam Speaker, it says on the next session day. asr-000623 01:49:41.340 --> 01:49:44.460 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: We are not yet on the next session day because we have not yet adjourned. asr-000624 01:49:44.460 --> 01:49:47.800 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So we are still in the same session day, Madam Speaker. asr-000625 01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:50.160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So you cannot use that rule, Madam Speaker. asr-000626 01:49:50.160 --> 01:49:52.760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: It says on the next session day. asr-000627 01:49:52.760 --> 01:49:55.320 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: We are still on the same session day, so it's a continuing session. asr-000628 01:49:55.320 --> 01:49:59.680 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So dapat po kung ganyan ang gusto niyong gamitin na rule, dapat po asr-000629 01:49:59.680 --> 01:50:07.240 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: nag-adjourn po noon para next session day, eh Biyernes at hindi na po ako puwedeng mag-motion for reconsideration ngayon. asr-000630 01:50:07.340 --> 01:50:09.680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: I am not actually referring to the next session day. asr-000631 01:50:09.980 --> 01:50:15.620 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: I am referring, the presiding officer, referring to a motion for reconsideration of a member asr-000632 01:50:15.620 --> 01:50:19.620 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: who voted with the majority insofar as the motion asr-000633 01:50:19.620 --> 01:50:24.860 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to terminate the period of interpolation of the proposed budget of the Congress of the Philippines. asr-000634 01:50:24.860 --> 01:50:26.200 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Within the next session day. asr-000635 01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:29.480 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi pa po tumadaan yung isang session day, Madam Speaker. asr-000636 01:50:29.500 --> 01:50:29.680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Yes. asr-000637 01:50:29.840 --> 01:50:31.880 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Anyway, just rule on it, Madam Speaker. asr-000638 01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:34.740 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kung talagang hindi kayo papayag, then just rule on it. asr-000639 01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:36.860 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The parliamentary status is this. asr-000640 01:50:37.500 --> 01:50:41.820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The proposed, the interpolations of the proposed budget of the House of Representatives asr-000641 01:50:41.820 --> 01:50:45.060 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: has been terminated as moved by the minority, asr-000642 01:50:45.240 --> 01:50:49.820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: duly seconded by the majority last Thursday, September... asr-000643 01:50:53.480 --> 01:50:57.820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: September 17, 2026 at approximately... asr-000644 01:50:59.840 --> 01:51:00.900 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: before noontime. asr-000645 01:51:01.820 --> 01:51:05.860 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: A motion for reconsideration is being put forwarded by the Honorable Chanko. asr-000646 01:51:06.420 --> 01:51:09.580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: While the presiding officer would gladly yield, asr-000647 01:51:10.100 --> 01:51:14.760 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: unfortunately, our rule states that only a member who had voted with the majority asr-000648 01:51:14.760 --> 01:51:17.220 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: can vote for the reconsideration. asr-000649 01:51:17.380 --> 01:51:19.200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With that, our apologies. asr-000650 01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:22.200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The motion for reconsideration is out of order. asr-000651 01:51:22.460 --> 01:51:22.840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: So ruled. asr-000652 01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:24.420 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-000653 01:51:24.420 --> 01:51:28.840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: But I think more than the rules, transparency is more important than our rules. asr-000654 01:51:28.960 --> 01:51:29.820 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kasi kung gusto po natin, asr-000655 01:51:29.840 --> 01:51:31.460 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: magigilan ng korupsyon, asr-000656 01:51:32.160 --> 01:51:33.360 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: kailangan po may accountability. asr-000657 01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:36.600 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kung wala pong accountability, kung wala pong transparency. asr-000658 01:51:37.200 --> 01:51:39.900 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, but if that is your rule, then I will respect it. asr-000659 01:51:42.240 --> 01:51:44.140 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Thank you very much, Honorable Chanko. asr-000660 01:51:44.200 --> 01:51:44.840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader? asr-000661 01:51:50.820 --> 01:51:54.660 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. asr-000662 01:51:57.060 --> 01:51:58.540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There's a motion to asr-000663 01:51:58.540 --> 01:52:02.320 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: consider the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. asr-000665 01:52:03.860 --> 01:52:04.840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: An objection? asr-000666 01:52:05.540 --> 01:52:11.380 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, the period of sponsorship debate and interpolation on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit is hereby opened. asr-000667 01:52:11.880 --> 01:52:12.760 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader? asr-000668 01:52:13.240 --> 01:52:17.140 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Commission on Audit, asr-000669 01:52:17.300 --> 01:52:17.640 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: namely, asr-000670 01:52:17.920 --> 01:52:19.780 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Chairperson Gamaliel Cordoba, asr-000671 01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:23.500 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Commissioner Douglas Michael Malilin, asr-000672 01:52:24.680 --> 01:52:27.280 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Assistant Commissioner Alexander Juliano, asr-000673 01:52:27.280 --> 01:52:29.180 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Assistant Commissioner Nilda Plaver, asr-000674 01:52:29.820 --> 01:52:57.540 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana Cese, Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabotchan, Assistant Commissioner Roy Ursal, Assistant Commissioner Joel Estolatan, Assistant Commissioner Lito Martin, Assistant Commissioner Bresilo Sabaldan, Assistant Commissioner Lucila Isidro, Assistant Commissioner Sofia Hemora, and Assistant Commissioner Estela Mercado. asr-000675 01:52:59.820 --> 01:53:14.200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Commission on Audit family, headed by the Chairperson, Gamaliel Cordoba, who never ages except for the missing few strands of hair. asr-000676 01:53:14.800 --> 01:53:19.540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Maraming salamat sa pagdalo dito sa Kongreso kasama ang COA family. asr-000677 01:53:19.880 --> 01:53:20.620 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. asr-000678 01:53:22.060 --> 01:53:25.680 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate. asr-000679 01:53:29.820 --> 01:53:41.440 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chairperson, the Honorable John Tracy Cagas, of the Lone District of Davao del Sur, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. asr-000680 01:53:41.940 --> 01:53:50.880 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Vice Chairperson, John Tracy Cagas, of the Lone District of Davao del Sur, is hereby recognized to sponsor the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. asr-000681 01:53:51.500 --> 01:53:53.480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-000682 01:53:55.260 --> 01:53:59.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: I would like also to include or acknowledge the respective asr-000683 01:53:59.820 --> 01:54:07.480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Regional Directors of COA, from the different regions of our beloved country. asr-000684 01:54:09.740 --> 01:54:17.520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues, magandang hapon po sa ating lahat. asr-000685 01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:26.520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: It is my honor to sponsor the budget of the Commission on Audit for Fiscal Year 2027, asr-000686 01:54:28.140 --> 01:54:29.520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: amounting to asr-000687 01:54:29.820 --> 01:54:37.040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 16.46 billion pesos, inclusive of the automatic appropriations. asr-000688 01:54:38.040 --> 01:54:45.020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: In terms of new appropriations, which is subject for Congressional approval, asr-000689 01:54:46.540 --> 01:54:52.460 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: the total budget of COA amounts to 14.774 billion, asr-000690 01:54:52.460 --> 01:54:58.460 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: which represents an increase of about 2.49%. asr-000691 01:54:59.820 --> 01:55:12.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or 359.12 million, higher than the Fiscal Year 2026 level of 14.415 billion. asr-000692 01:55:13.220 --> 01:55:22.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Speaker, this budget will be used to support the Commission's program, activities, and operations, asr-000693 01:55:22.720 --> 01:55:26.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: to ensure accountability for public resources, asr-000694 01:55:28.260 --> 01:55:29.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: promote transparency, asr-000695 01:55:29.840 --> 01:55:32.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and help improve government operations asr-000696 01:55:33.540 --> 01:55:39.400 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: in partnership with stakeholders for the benefit of the Filipino people. asr-000697 01:55:40.480 --> 01:55:46.620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: The Commission on Audit is the supreme auditing institution of our nation. asr-000698 01:55:47.740 --> 01:55:51.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: It is the ultimate guardian for the public treasury asr-000699 01:55:51.900 --> 01:55:56.200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and the bedrock of fiscal accountability. asr-000701 01:55:56.240 --> 01:56:20.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: COA does not merely look at numbers. It ensures that every single peso contributed by our hardworking taxpayers is spent efficiently, effectively, and entirely for its intended public purpose. asr-000702 01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:27.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: The proposed budget is a vital investment in good governance. asr-000703 01:56:27.720 --> 01:56:43.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: By equipping COA with necessary resources, we are strengthening its capability to conduct rigorous audits, expand its workforce of dedicated state auditors, asr-000704 01:56:43.760 --> 01:56:50.260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and adopt digital innovations that bring greater transparency. asr-000705 01:56:50.640 --> 01:57:03.080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: To starve COA of resources is to weaken our defenses against waste and corruption. asr-000706 01:57:04.420 --> 01:57:11.040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: To support COA is to fortify the integrity of our entire bureaucracy. asr-000707 01:57:11.420 --> 01:57:17.940 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: As we steer our nation toward broader economic growth and development, asr-000708 01:57:18.680 --> 01:57:20.620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: let us ensure that our asr-000710 01:57:20.640 --> 01:57:28.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: oversight institutions remain strong, independent, and fully capable. asr-000711 01:57:29.240 --> 01:57:30.780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-000712 01:57:31.820 --> 01:57:39.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: This presentation is now ready to answer questions from our distinguished colleagues. asr-000713 01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:42.200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. asr-000714 01:57:42.920 --> 01:57:49.280 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Iris Montes of the Partylist 4K asr-000715 01:57:49.280 --> 01:57:50.380 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: to interpellate. asr-000716 01:57:50.640 --> 01:57:52.860 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: On the proposed budget of the COA. asr-000717 01:57:53.540 --> 01:57:57.580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Honorable Iris Marie de Mesa Montes is hereby recognized for her interpellation. asr-000718 01:57:58.360 --> 01:57:59.880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-000719 01:58:00.140 --> 01:58:02.260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Magandang hapon po sa lahat. asr-000720 01:58:02.380 --> 01:58:03.880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ilang katanungan lamang po. asr-000721 01:58:05.240 --> 01:58:09.240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Unang tanong ko po, sa laki ng mandato ng COA, asr-000722 01:58:10.040 --> 01:58:20.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sapat ba ang budget nito para maisa katuparan ang mas malawak at mas mabilis na auditing laban sa korupsyon? asr-000723 01:58:20.640 --> 01:58:26.560 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: The question is, sapat na ba ang budget ng COA as proposed? asr-000724 01:58:27.320 --> 01:58:32.880 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: The COA proposed originally before the NEP, asr-000725 01:58:36.880 --> 01:58:41.580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 17 billion pesos. asr-000726 01:58:41.580 --> 01:58:50.580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero ang na-approve sa NEP ay 15 billion only. asr-000727 01:58:50.640 --> 01:58:59.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung dalawang bilyon na pesos ay para sana yun sa technological innovations. asr-000728 01:59:00.140 --> 01:59:05.380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mga panibagong paggawa ng mga audit. asr-000729 01:59:06.700 --> 01:59:16.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Unfortunately, we failed to provide what is necessary sa pamaraan ng pag-audit ngayon. asr-000730 01:59:17.560 --> 01:59:18.740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. asr-000731 01:59:18.740 --> 01:59:20.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yan po kasi yung sunod kong isa. asr-000732 01:59:20.640 --> 01:59:25.500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Itatanong, doon sa kakulangan sa budget na trinopose po ng COA, asr-000733 01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:28.880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ano po ang mga proyekto o programang matatamaan? asr-000734 01:59:29.500 --> 01:59:32.240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At ang susunod ko pong katanungan sana, asr-000735 01:59:32.800 --> 01:59:38.760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: magkano sana ang nakalaan sa proposed 2027 budget na dedicated to asr-000736 01:59:38.760 --> 01:59:46.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: digital audit capabilities, data analytics, artificial intelligence, cyber security, asr-000737 01:59:46.620 --> 01:59:50.600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and automated detection of anomalous transactions? asr-000738 01:59:50.640 --> 01:59:59.500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi po, sa panahon ngayon, alam din po yan ng COA kung gaano kahalaga ang teknolohiyang ito para mas mapabilis. asr-000739 01:59:59.500 --> 02:00:00.000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at asr-000740 02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:04.460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At mas accurate po yung ating mga audit reports. asr-000741 02:00:11.240 --> 02:00:18.940 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: To be specific, distinguished interpellator, ito po yung nabawas, natanggal. asr-000742 02:00:18.940 --> 02:00:36.060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: M-O-O-E para sana sa mga P254 million and P420 pesos. asr-000743 02:00:36.060 --> 02:00:51.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka capital outlay na P1.177 million. asr-000744 02:00:51.300 --> 02:00:52.100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 1 billion, asr-000745 02:00:52.100 --> 02:00:54.580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 177 million. asr-000746 02:00:55.560 --> 02:01:02.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, ang budget ng kuha ngayon, walang capital outlay. asr-000747 02:01:07.880 --> 02:01:11.040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung wala pong capital outlay, Mr. Speaker, asr-000748 02:01:11.200 --> 02:01:15.420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ibig sabihin, hindi nga po tayo pwedeng mag-procure asr-000749 02:01:15.420 --> 02:01:17.920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ng mga technological, ano, asr-000750 02:01:18.940 --> 02:01:23.480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: equipment na makakatulong sana sa pag-audit ng kuha. asr-000751 02:01:23.580 --> 02:01:24.300 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, wala po. asr-000752 02:01:24.680 --> 02:01:28.060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ibig sabihin po ba sa 2027 proposed budget, asr-000753 02:01:28.380 --> 02:01:31.440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kahit SINGCO, wala pong nakalaan para doon? asr-000754 02:01:35.520 --> 02:01:42.520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: To be a specific, Madam Interpellator, distinguished interpellator, asr-000755 02:01:43.360 --> 02:01:48.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: semi-expendable information and communication technology, ICT, asr-000756 02:01:48.940 --> 02:01:52.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ITEMS and software subscription, asr-000757 02:01:53.320 --> 02:01:55.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: fiscal year 2027, asr-000758 02:01:56.500 --> 02:02:03.400 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kuha Information System Strategic Plan or ISSP, asr-000759 02:02:04.140 --> 02:02:10.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na umabot po ng P213,686,000. asr-000760 02:02:10.300 --> 02:02:17.600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka yung Citizen Participatory Audit or CPA, asr-000761 02:02:18.940 --> 02:02:24.160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: MOOE requirements, yung mga NGOs, POs na sasali sana sa auditing, asr-000762 02:02:24.460 --> 02:02:35.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 40,734,000. Total po, 244?254 million 120,000. asr-000763 02:02:35.720 --> 02:02:40.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito po sana yung gamitin para sa MOE, you know? asr-000764 02:02:42.740 --> 02:02:47.360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka yung capital outlay naman, yung sa building ng kuha, asr-000765 02:02:47.360 --> 02:02:54.320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: building and structures, 484,617,000, asr-000766 02:02:55.060 --> 02:03:01.820 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung mga furnitures and fixtures, 161,523,000, asr-000767 02:03:02.540 --> 02:03:07.280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: transportation equipment outlay, 5,600,000, asr-000768 02:03:08.100 --> 02:03:15.460 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ICT equipment and software, 525,405,000. asr-000769 02:03:16.260 --> 02:03:17.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Total po. asr-000770 02:03:17.360 --> 02:03:24.060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ang capital outlay is 1,177,145,000. asr-000771 02:03:25.060 --> 02:03:28.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So hindi na po na-consider sa NEP. asr-000772 02:03:29.500 --> 02:03:35.500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ibig sabihin nga po, wala tayong gagamitin na pag-procure nitong mga ito? asr-000773 02:03:36.760 --> 02:03:37.780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Wala po, madam. asr-000774 02:03:37.900 --> 02:03:43.680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ibig sabihin din po niyan, since wala tayong budget para dyan, asr-000775 02:03:43.680 --> 02:03:47.080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: maaantala po sana yung isang, asr-000776 02:03:47.360 --> 02:03:53.260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: teknolohiyang pwede nating magamit para mas mapalakas at mapabilis ang ating audit. asr-000777 02:03:53.480 --> 02:03:54.160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Tama po ba? asr-000778 02:03:55.060 --> 02:04:04.420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes, maaantala po yung trabaho nila sa mga bagong panibagong paraan sana. asr-000779 02:04:05.020 --> 02:04:09.280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero despite of it, I commend COA, you know? asr-000780 02:04:11.280 --> 02:04:17.320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kung natatandaan natin, even the meager resources we are giving them, asr-000781 02:04:17.360 --> 02:04:20.960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kahit kunti, they try their best. asr-000782 02:04:21.960 --> 02:04:23.460 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Talagang nagsusumikap sila. asr-000783 02:04:24.500 --> 02:04:29.720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yes, we acknowledge that, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. asr-000784 02:04:30.260 --> 02:04:34.360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pero syempre, gusto natin na bigyan din yung kahalagahan ng teknolohiya. asr-000785 02:04:35.060 --> 02:04:41.000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sa panahon ngayon na iba na po ang nakasanayan ng mga tao, asr-000786 02:04:41.000 --> 02:04:47.000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: o madami na pong pagbabago, dapat po syempre yung ating audit systems can keep up. asr-000787 02:04:47.360 --> 02:04:50.340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: With the changes na nangyayari din, ano po? asr-000788 02:04:50.860 --> 02:04:57.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So yun lamang po ang gusto kong puntuhin na mahalaga na nababadgetan po natin yung teknolohiya asr-000789 02:04:57.560 --> 02:04:59.080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: para mas mapalakas po. asr-000790 02:04:59.200 --> 02:05:06.580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Mamaya po, babanggitin ko po uli kung bakit mahalaga din po yung mga teknolohiyang yan. asr-000791 02:05:06.900 --> 02:05:09.360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: On to my next question, Madam Speaker. asr-000792 02:05:09.700 --> 02:05:13.520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pagdating naman po sa coverage at sa capacity ng COA pa, asr-000793 02:05:13.520 --> 02:05:16.340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ilang porsyento ng mga ehensya at LG, asr-000794 02:05:16.340 --> 02:05:19.200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yung aktwal na naa-audit ng COA kada taon. asr-000795 02:05:19.940 --> 02:05:25.720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Are we 100% naaabot po natin, isang daang porsyentong audit? asr-000796 02:05:30.080 --> 02:05:36.620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Except barangay, mga barangay local government units, asr-000797 02:05:36.620 --> 02:05:45.520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: lahat po ng munisipyo, probinsya, at national agencies ay na-audit po ng COA. asr-000798 02:05:46.340 --> 02:05:49.240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung sakali po bang meron tayong technical capacity, asr-000799 02:05:49.420 --> 02:05:52.020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: maaabot po ba natin up to the barangay level? asr-000800 02:05:52.240 --> 02:05:54.020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: If our, you know, if our... asr-000801 02:05:56.520 --> 02:05:59.680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ano po ba ang dahilan kung bakit hindi naaabot yun? asr-000802 02:05:59.800 --> 02:06:02.740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kulang sa oras? Kulang sa resources? asr-000803 02:06:13.020 --> 02:06:15.360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, magandang tanong po yan. asr-000804 02:06:15.780 --> 02:06:16.260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Maganda. asr-000805 02:06:17.000 --> 02:06:19.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: English Interpolator. asr-000806 02:06:20.180 --> 02:06:23.700 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kung merong sapat na teknolohiya. asr-000807 02:06:24.880 --> 02:06:30.220 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kasi ngayon, cyclical ay yung audit ng barangay every three years lang. asr-000808 02:06:30.720 --> 02:06:33.600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Sa dami, 42,000 barangays. asr-000809 02:06:34.380 --> 02:06:37.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero kung may sapat na teknolohiya, asr-000810 02:06:37.240 --> 02:06:44.100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pwede pong gawin yearly yung audit ng barangay. asr-000811 02:06:44.680 --> 02:06:45.980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. asr-000812 02:06:46.340 --> 02:07:03.880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Speaker, pagdating naman po sa competence and integrity ng personal, paano po tinitiyak ng COA na ang kanilang mga auditors ay may sapat na training, competence at integridad upang hindi maging bahagi po ng problema? asr-000813 02:07:03.880 --> 02:07:28.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung tungkol po sa training, competency and capability of state auditors, upon entry po, pagpasok ng empleyado sa COA, start the training right away. asr-000814 02:07:28.760 --> 02:07:32.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka tuloy-tuloy na yan, hanggang tataas-tataas yan. asr-000815 02:07:32.340 --> 02:07:52.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: We retain them in the agency. After training po ba, may porsyento po ba dyan na umaalis? O meron po silang, kumbaga may return service or kung meron hindi po return service, may pinirmahan na kontrata na magsiserve sila ng specific period? asr-000816 02:08:02.340 --> 02:08:16.140 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung mga specialized klase ng training, may kontrata po yun na they have to return the investment ng goberno. asr-000817 02:08:17.040 --> 02:08:27.020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero yung mga regular trainings, which is done regularly, wala naman pong kontrata yun. Yung mga specialized training lang po. asr-000818 02:08:28.500 --> 02:08:32.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Do we also have, kaugnay po niyan, may budget po ba? asr-000819 02:08:32.340 --> 02:08:55.420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Do we also have, na nakalaan sa pag-hire halimbawa ng mga engineers, yung mga IT specialists, yung mga specialized po na profession that can help COA detect mga highly technical din po na mga dapat na i-audit nila? asr-000820 02:09:00.460 --> 02:09:02.320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Gusto [unclear] ng COA asr-000821 02:09:02.340 --> 02:09:17.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na mag-hire ng mga specialized fields of knowledge. Limitado po yung item or plantilia ng COA. Meron silang engineer pero limited talaga. asr-000822 02:09:18.060 --> 02:09:32.340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yes po. Thank you Madam Chair, Madam Speaker. Ang punto ko po kasi, alam naman natin kung how the government processes have become increasingly complex. asr-000823 02:09:32.340 --> 02:09:59.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: complex sa panahon ngayon. And dagdag re-require din po ito na matugunan natin ng personnel who have the expertise. Halimbawa sa mga infrastructure projects, meron po ba tayo dyan sapat na mga ingeniero, arkitekto, siguro kasama pa yung mga financial analysts, tama po ba ang presyong ito? asr-000824 02:09:59.560 --> 02:10:15.780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi ako po naniniwala kung sapat po yung ating personnel, ang know-how ng ating personnel, ang kanilang experience, ang kanilang expertise, mabilis tayong gumawa, may teknolohiya tayo, mas mabilis po nating magagawa ang audit. asr-000825 02:10:15.780 --> 02:10:28.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ang tanong ko po sa COA, through the years, alam nyo po ito, ang sagot nyo po, wala kayong enough personnel, nag-request na po ba tayo sa DBM ng additional plantilia items? asr-000826 02:10:28.900 --> 02:10:32.720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Para matugunan natin ang gap na pong ito? asr-000827 02:10:33.660 --> 02:10:41.140 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: The COA family fully agrees with you, Madam Interpellator. asr-000828 02:10:44.580 --> 02:10:50.860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Have you requested the DBM about the plantilia items that you need? asr-000829 02:10:54.860 --> 02:10:58.860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes, the COA requested the DBM about the... asr-000830 02:10:58.900 --> 02:11:02.040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: plantilia items. asr-000831 02:11:05.660 --> 02:11:08.960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po, madam speaker. asr-000832 02:11:09.460 --> 02:11:21.960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pagdating naman po sa effectiveness natin, ilang corruption-related audit findings nag-resulta po sa aktual na kaso o sanction noong 2025 na lamang po? asr-000834 02:11:43.300 --> 02:11:45.800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Thank you for asking that, madam tripulator. asr-000835 02:11:47.740 --> 02:11:53.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Because that really ring a bell to our nation. asr-000836 02:11:55.440 --> 02:12:03.100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung ginawa ng COA, arising from that scandal, asr-000862 02:12:04.580 --> 02:12:07.540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Nagpile ng COA ng fraud audit. asr-000863 02:12:07.860 --> 02:12:09.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Nagawa ng fraud audit. asr-000864 02:12:09.680 --> 02:12:19.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At itong audit nila, yun ang ginawang basis or basihan para ma-file yun sa Ombudsman. asr-000865 02:12:20.240 --> 02:12:24.840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, more or less, about... asr-000868 02:12:28.900 --> 02:12:45.860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Bulacan alone, the epicenter of the, Bulacan alone, mga 50 cases, criminal cases, ang na-submit sa Ombudsman. asr-000869 02:12:48.040 --> 02:12:50.160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-000870 02:12:53.160 --> 02:12:58.320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Paano po nasisiguran ng COA na ang mga audit reports na ginagawa nito? asr-000871 02:12:58.900 --> 02:13:04.800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ay ano po ang sukatan na ginagamit na talagang nakakapagbawas tayo ng corruption sa gobyerno? asr-000872 02:13:05.140 --> 02:13:06.680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: May sukatan po ba ang COA? asr-000873 02:13:07.020 --> 02:13:11.600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: How do you say that COA has been effective in decreasing corruption? asr-000874 02:13:11.840 --> 02:13:14.340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Anong metrics po ang ginagamit natin? asr-000875 02:13:26.320 --> 02:13:27.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung, ah, asr-000876 02:13:28.220 --> 02:13:28.880 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: from the first, asr-000877 02:13:28.900 --> 02:13:34.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: first step of COA's, ah, how do you call it, auditing process. asr-000878 02:13:35.180 --> 02:13:37.160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Isang ahensya po, ah, asr-000879 02:13:37.940 --> 02:13:39.800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: upon COA's knowledge, ah, asr-000880 02:13:41.020 --> 02:13:41.780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: merong, ano, asr-000881 02:13:42.140 --> 02:13:47.060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: something's not right, so, asr-000882 02:13:47.700 --> 02:13:50.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: gawan po na rin, ano yan, ah, asr-000883 02:13:51.180 --> 02:13:55.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: audit, EOM, audit observation memorandum. asr-000884 02:13:55.800 --> 02:13:56.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, asr-000885 02:13:56.120 --> 02:13:58.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: the agency concerned, asr-000886 02:13:58.900 --> 02:14:00.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kapat, ano siya, ah, asr-000887 02:14:00.900 --> 02:14:04.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: he has to reply or respond to the EOM. asr-000888 02:14:05.900 --> 02:14:11.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pag ano, ah, na-satisfactory yung ano nila, ah, answer or respond, asr-000889 02:14:11.900 --> 02:14:13.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: issue na po ng notice of asr-000890 02:14:14.900 --> 02:14:16.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: disallowance, no? asr-000891 02:14:16.900 --> 02:14:19.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Itong transaction na ito is disallowed. asr-000892 02:14:19.900 --> 02:14:24.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tapos, after notice of disallowance, ah, asr-000893 02:14:28.900 --> 02:14:36.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung, ah, asr-000894 02:14:36.900 --> 02:14:48.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: if he cannot answer, ah, yung notice of disallowance, ah, so, yun, ah, papuntang ombudsman na yung, ano. asr-000895 02:14:48.900 --> 02:14:50.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. asr-000896 02:14:50.900 --> 02:14:57.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ahm, kasi halimbawa po may mga pagkakataon na discovery ng COA, isang malaking, ah, ah, asr-000897 02:14:57.900 --> 02:14:59.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: um, anomalya. asr-000898 02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:10.020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Halimbawa po, paano, anong ginagawa niya, paano nagko-coordinate halimbawa sa Ombudsman, sa DOJ, o kaya sa Kongreso para ma-flag down. asr-000899 02:15:10.020 --> 02:15:26.360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, di ba dapat ang Kongreso, in the exercise of its oversight function, makita yun para hindi naaabot ng matagal, ma-flag down na rin yung programang yun na nagkaroon ng anomalya. asr-000900 02:15:43.000 --> 02:16:06.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung report po ng COA ay nabibigyan po ng kopya yung House of Representatives, annual reports. At saka yung mga kaso na umabot ng Ombudsman, the COA personnel or auditors, asr-000901 02:16:06.980 --> 02:16:11.160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sila po yung stand as witness for the prosecution. asr-000902 02:16:12.480 --> 02:16:19.260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung annual audit reports, kailan po yan sinusubite ng COA sa Kongreso? asr-000903 02:16:19.260 --> 02:16:27.260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Because, you know, in the past, I worked in the House of Representatives for more than three decades. asr-000904 02:16:28.020 --> 02:16:29.260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Dati po, automatic. asr-000905 02:16:30.000 --> 02:16:36.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yan, pinapadala sa mga opisina. Kahit agency annual reports, accomplishment reports, meron. asr-000906 02:16:37.400 --> 02:16:43.800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pero, itong mga recent, in the recent past, wala pong napapadala ang COA. asr-000907 02:16:44.440 --> 02:16:47.000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Hindi ko po alam kung saan ninyo sa Kongreso yung sinasubmit. asr-000908 02:16:48.100 --> 02:16:53.960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Usually, I check sa website, budget hearing na po, wala pa yung annual audit report. asr-000909 02:16:53.960 --> 02:16:58.960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I already mentioned this during the committee hearings, kasi ang sinasabi ko po, napakahalaga. asr-000910 02:17:00.000 --> 02:17:08.860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang annual audit reports ng COA para matulungan nyo ang Kongreso sa pag-exercise ng oversight function asr-000911 02:17:08.860 --> 02:17:15.300 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at para mabusisi ng gusto yung budget ng mga ahensya. Matutulungan nyo po kami. asr-000912 02:17:15.300 --> 02:17:25.540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ang annual audit report dito sa Kongreso is within one month from June 30 to hanggang July. asr-000913 02:17:26.700 --> 02:17:29.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, ang opisina na binibigyan, asr-000914 02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:35.040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: po, ng hard copy, ay ang opisina po ng Speaker of the House. asr-000915 02:17:35.620 --> 02:17:37.640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Madam Chair. asr-000916 02:17:38.160 --> 02:17:39.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Last question na lamang po. asr-000917 02:17:40.040 --> 02:17:42.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: [unclear], Committee on Appropriations Chair. asr-000918 02:17:43.580 --> 02:17:44.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. asr-000919 02:17:45.300 --> 02:17:49.540 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Huling question na lamang po, on transparency naman po ito and accessibility. asr-000920 02:17:50.340 --> 02:17:58.000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Paano po natin nasisiguro na ang, yung mga audit reports din, ay madaling ma-access ng publiko? asr-000921 02:17:58.000 --> 02:17:59.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung ako nga po, medyo hirap. asr-000922 02:18:00.000 --> 02:18:00.660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nang konti. asr-000923 02:18:00.980 --> 02:18:02.480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Paano pa po yung publiko? asr-000924 02:18:02.600 --> 02:18:11.100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Paano ito madaling ma-access ng publiko, ng civil society, para magsilbing dagdag na bantay laban sa korupsyon? asr-000925 02:18:15.440 --> 02:18:23.100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: For example, Madam, yung for year 25, example lang ito. asr-000926 02:18:24.880 --> 02:18:29.680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito po ay available sa COA website on October asr-000927 02:18:30.000 --> 02:18:32.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 31, 2026. asr-000928 02:18:33.220 --> 02:18:34.260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, ngayon, wala pa. asr-000929 02:18:35.560 --> 02:18:38.100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: October 31, 2026. asr-000930 02:18:38.400 --> 02:18:40.060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Andiyan na po yan sa COA website. asr-000931 02:18:40.500 --> 02:18:48.780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung annual audit report ng COA sa current, yung previous year, 2025. asr-000932 02:18:49.780 --> 02:18:51.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, yun po. asr-000933 02:18:51.120 --> 02:18:58.480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: I think mga 10 months, 10 months after sa previous year. asr-000934 02:18:59.280 --> 02:18:59.980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you. asr-000936 02:19:02.080 --> 02:19:06.180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Siguro po, yun lamang ang aking mga katanungan. asr-000937 02:19:06.540 --> 02:19:10.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nais ko lang po sabihin sa huling na sa bawat pisong nasasayang sa korupsyon, asr-000938 02:19:11.280 --> 02:19:14.600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: isang Pilipino ang nawawalan ng servisyong dapat sa kanya. asr-000939 02:19:15.040 --> 02:19:18.760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung tunay nating nais nawakasan ang kultura ng katiwalian, asr-000940 02:19:19.180 --> 02:19:22.780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: dapat nating tiyakin na ang COA ay may sapat na lakas, asr-000941 02:19:23.220 --> 02:19:29.080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sapat na tao, at sapat na integridad upang bantayan ang bawat sentimo asr-000942 02:19:29.080 --> 02:19:29.980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ng kaban ng bayan. asr-000943 02:19:30.000 --> 02:19:36.000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sa ganitong paraan natin, maipapakita sa sambayanan na ang gobyerno ay seryoso asr-000944 02:19:36.620 --> 02:19:41.800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: laban sa korupsyon at ang tiwala ng taong bayan ay tunay na mahalaga. asr-000945 02:19:42.300 --> 02:19:46.580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor at sa COA po. asr-000946 02:19:48.000 --> 02:19:48.960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. asr-000947 02:19:51.000 --> 02:19:55.540 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Toby M. Tiangco asr-000948 02:19:55.540 --> 02:19:59.980 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: of the Lone District of Navotas to interpellate on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. asr-000949 02:20:00.000 --> 02:20:03.420 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Tiangco is recognized. Please proceed. asr-000950 02:20:05.920 --> 02:20:10.220 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, I commend po the job that the COA is doing asr-000951 02:20:10.220 --> 02:20:16.140 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: para po masiguradong maayos po yung gastos ng pera ng ating mga kababayan. asr-000952 02:20:16.660 --> 02:20:19.760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, ang unang tanong ko po is, asr-000953 02:20:20.660 --> 02:20:25.420 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang audit po ng COA is based on the calendar year, no? asr-000954 02:20:26.060 --> 02:20:29.000 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: The end of December 31 of every year. Tama po ba? asr-000955 02:20:30.000 --> 02:20:32.060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes, sir. asr-000956 02:20:34.160 --> 02:20:38.540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kailan naman po ang deadline ng paglabas ng audit report? asr-000957 02:20:39.480 --> 02:20:46.160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: For example po, yung December 31, 2025, kailan po ang deadline ng paglabas ng audit report niya? asr-000958 02:20:53.620 --> 02:20:58.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: To be specific, Distinguished Interpellator, asr-000959 02:20:58.960 --> 02:20:59.920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung sa... asr-000960 02:20:59.920 --> 02:21:04.360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: completion of audit report ng ahensya, June 30. asr-000961 02:21:05.420 --> 02:21:08.140 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, at ito yung after June 30, asr-000962 02:21:09.020 --> 02:21:12.540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ibigay po ito sa RAS, sa House, asr-000963 02:21:13.260 --> 02:21:14.860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Speaker, saka sa APRO. asr-000964 02:21:15.620 --> 02:21:20.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Then, yung publication niya is October 31. asr-000965 02:21:21.500 --> 02:21:26.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yun po ang petsa under the GAA, General Appropriation Act. asr-000966 02:21:26.800 --> 02:21:29.840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Okay. So, kaya po, as of now, wala pa po. asr-000967 02:21:29.920 --> 02:21:32.300 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi pa po napapublish ng COA asr-000968 02:21:32.300 --> 02:21:35.680 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: yung audit report ng House of Representatives. Tama po ba? asr-000969 02:21:36.380 --> 02:21:37.160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Hindi pa po. asr-000970 02:21:37.880 --> 02:21:39.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero meron ng kopya tayo. asr-000971 02:21:39.640 --> 02:21:41.280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: We have an advance copy. asr-000972 02:21:41.580 --> 02:21:42.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung House. asr-000973 02:21:43.860 --> 02:21:44.300 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Okay. asr-000974 02:21:45.820 --> 02:21:48.860 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ngayon, dito po sa House of Representatives, asr-000975 02:21:48.860 --> 02:21:50.220 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang congressman po, asr-000976 02:21:51.120 --> 02:21:54.540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: yung mga gastos po natin sa distrito, asr-000977 02:21:55.320 --> 02:21:58.800 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: alam naman po natin yan is liquidation by certification po yan. asr-000978 02:21:58.920 --> 02:21:59.380 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po ba? asr-000979 02:21:59.920 --> 02:22:03.320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes, po. asr-000980 02:22:04.020 --> 02:22:06.320 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: At yan po ay pinapayagan po ng COA. asr-000981 02:22:06.720 --> 02:22:07.220 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po. asr-000982 02:22:11.260 --> 02:22:17.680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pursuant to COA Circular 89-300 of 1989, asr-000983 02:22:18.660 --> 02:22:22.400 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito po ang ginagamit na basihan at pinapayagan po. asr-000984 02:22:25.820 --> 02:22:26.540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ngayon. asr-000985 02:22:28.340 --> 02:22:29.540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, ang... asr-000986 02:22:29.920 --> 02:22:31.440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: M-O-O-E asr-000987 02:22:31.440 --> 02:22:33.640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng bawat congressman asr-000988 02:22:33.640 --> 02:22:37.340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: maging party list o district representatives asr-000989 02:22:37.340 --> 02:22:39.920 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: dahil may gastusin po sila sa kanilang opisina, asr-000990 02:22:40.020 --> 02:22:40.920 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: kung saan po umuan yan, asr-000991 02:22:41.880 --> 02:22:43.840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ay dapat pantay-pantay. asr-000992 02:22:43.980 --> 02:22:44.500 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po ba? asr-000993 02:22:45.800 --> 02:22:46.600 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, ibig sabihin, asr-000994 02:22:46.600 --> 02:22:48.860 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: kung 316 po asr-000995 02:22:48.860 --> 02:22:51.680 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang congressman dito, asr-000996 02:22:52.420 --> 02:22:54.740 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: so pagbasihan po natin yung 2024 asr-000997 02:22:54.740 --> 02:22:56.040 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: tsaka 2023, asr-000998 02:22:57.300 --> 02:22:58.560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: base po ba asr-000999 02:22:58.560 --> 02:22:59.760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: doon sa asr-001000 02:22:59.760 --> 02:23:01.680 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: audit asr-001001 02:23:01.680 --> 02:23:03.560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng resident auditor asr-001002 02:23:03.560 --> 02:23:04.860 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng COA, asr-001003 02:23:06.100 --> 02:23:07.580 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang specific na tanong ko asr-001004 02:23:07.580 --> 02:23:10.600 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: is ang bawat congressman ba asr-001005 02:23:10.600 --> 02:23:12.560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ay pare-pareho asr-001006 02:23:12.560 --> 02:23:14.920 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang natanggap na M-O-O-E asr-001007 02:23:14.920 --> 02:23:17.840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: at walang mas malaki asr-001008 02:23:17.840 --> 02:23:19.120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: at walang mas maliit. asr-001009 02:23:19.300 --> 02:23:21.700 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Base po sa official asr-001010 02:23:21.700 --> 02:23:22.720 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: COA asr-001011 02:23:22.720 --> 02:23:25.840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: report ng 2024. asr-001012 02:23:26.440 --> 02:23:27.540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: 2024 po muna. asr-001013 02:23:28.640 --> 02:23:28.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah... asr-001014 02:23:28.760 --> 02:23:31.280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Distinguished Interpolator, asr-001015 02:23:32.220 --> 02:23:33.160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang tanong po asr-001016 02:23:33.160 --> 02:23:33.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa asr-001017 02:23:33.720 --> 02:23:37.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: question about asr-001018 02:23:37.000 --> 02:23:38.140 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pantay-pantay, asr-001019 02:23:38.900 --> 02:23:41.620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: hindi po may sagot asr-001020 02:23:41.620 --> 02:23:42.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng COA, asr-001021 02:23:42.980 --> 02:23:43.960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: discretion po asr-001022 02:23:43.960 --> 02:23:46.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng house leadership asr-001023 02:23:46.500 --> 02:23:47.520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or house speaker. asr-001024 02:23:49.200 --> 02:23:50.200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Hindi po asr-001025 02:23:50.200 --> 02:23:52.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa level ng COA yung mga asr-001026 02:23:52.240 --> 02:23:53.740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pagbibigay ng asr-001027 02:23:53.740 --> 02:23:57.280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pagbibigay ng mga asr-001028 02:23:57.280 --> 02:23:57.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: tawag na? asr-001029 02:23:58.760 --> 02:23:59.760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: M-O-O-E. asr-001030 02:24:00.020 --> 02:24:01.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, M-O-O-E, yeah. asr-001031 02:24:01.220 --> 02:24:02.560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi, liliwanagin ko po muna asr-001032 02:24:02.560 --> 02:24:03.120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: yung tanong ko. asr-001033 02:24:04.460 --> 02:24:06.240 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, base po sa sagot ninyo, asr-001034 02:24:06.900 --> 02:24:08.080 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: hindi po pantay, asr-001035 02:24:08.200 --> 02:24:08.880 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: tama po ba asr-001036 02:24:08.880 --> 02:24:11.500 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: na hindi po pantay-pantay asr-001037 02:24:11.500 --> 02:24:12.980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang M-O-O-E asr-001038 02:24:12.980 --> 02:24:14.160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng lahat ng congressman? asr-001039 02:24:14.260 --> 02:24:14.880 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po ba yan? asr-001040 02:24:15.580 --> 02:24:17.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, sa kadahilanan, asr-001041 02:24:18.200 --> 02:24:18.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: may mga... asr-001042 02:24:19.940 --> 02:24:20.880 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi, una po, asr-001043 02:24:21.020 --> 02:24:21.780 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: tama po ba na asr-001044 02:24:21.780 --> 02:24:23.060 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: base po sa asr-001045 02:24:23.060 --> 02:24:26.120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: 2024 audit report, asr-001046 02:24:27.220 --> 02:24:28.740 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: hindi po pantay-pantay, asr-001047 02:24:28.760 --> 02:24:30.480 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang M-O-O-E asr-001048 02:24:30.480 --> 02:24:32.460 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng lahat ng congressman. Tama po ba? asr-001049 02:24:33.800 --> 02:24:34.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Are 2024 asr-001050 02:24:34.660 --> 02:24:36.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: prior years? asr-001051 02:24:38.060 --> 02:24:39.400 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi, yung 2024 po muna. asr-001052 02:24:39.660 --> 02:24:41.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung 2024 audit lang po muna, asr-001053 02:24:42.980 --> 02:24:44.000 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: base po sa sagot nyo, asr-001054 02:24:44.120 --> 02:24:45.060 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: sinasabi nyo po asr-001055 02:24:45.060 --> 02:24:47.800 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: na hindi po pantay-pantay asr-001056 02:24:47.800 --> 02:24:49.140 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang M-O-O-E asr-001057 02:24:49.140 --> 02:24:50.300 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng bawat congressman asr-001058 02:24:50.300 --> 02:24:52.060 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: dahil yan po ay discretion asr-001059 02:24:52.060 --> 02:24:54.080 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng speaker. Tama po? asr-001115 02:25:48.100 --> 02:25:53.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Okay, yung pong sa kanina, asr-001116 02:25:53.660 --> 02:25:57.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Depende po kasi sa committee, chairmanship, membership, asr-001117 02:25:58.160 --> 02:26:00.380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa activities ng isang distrito. asr-001118 02:26:01.420 --> 02:26:06.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, kaya po na ganoon ang ano. asr-001119 02:26:07.100 --> 02:26:09.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Depende po sa, for example, asr-001120 02:26:11.260 --> 02:26:19.480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: may mga kongurgista na membro ng mga committees, ganoon. asr-001121 02:26:19.480 --> 02:26:23.620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, ayun po, compared to iba naman na congressman, asr-001122 02:26:23.660 --> 02:26:29.020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung iba matrabaho, yung iba hindi masyadong matrabaho. asr-001123 02:26:31.700 --> 02:26:33.560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po. So, tinatanong ko lang po. asr-001124 02:26:33.740 --> 02:26:35.540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, maliwanag na hindi po pare-pareho. asr-001125 02:26:36.920 --> 02:26:38.820 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Okay. Next po. asr-001126 02:26:42.320 --> 02:26:47.400 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ang allowed lang po ba ng certification by liquidation ay yung congressman asr-001127 02:26:47.400 --> 02:26:50.340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: o may mga staff din ng congressman asr-001128 02:26:50.340 --> 02:26:53.180 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: o staff ng House of Representatives asr-001129 02:26:53.180 --> 02:26:55.760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: na allowed ng liquidation by certification? asr-001130 02:26:56.320 --> 02:26:59.480 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ito po, ang pinag-uusapan po natin dito, Honorable Sponsor, asr-001131 02:27:00.020 --> 02:27:03.640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ay yung audit report ng 2024 po. asr-001132 02:27:04.380 --> 02:27:09.440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, congressman lang po ba ang pwede ng certification by liquidation asr-001133 02:27:09.440 --> 02:27:13.740 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: o pati po staff ng House of Representatives asr-001134 02:27:13.740 --> 02:27:20.640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: o staff ng congressman ay allowed ng certification by liquidation? asr-001135 02:27:21.000 --> 02:27:23.160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: O strictly, yung congressman lang po ba? asr-001136 02:27:23.180 --> 02:27:39.140 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung pong hindi congressman o hindi representante, hindi po sila allowed. asr-001136-split-2 02:27:39.140 --> 02:27:48.020 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, maliwanag po, pag may nakita po ang COA na isang empleyado ng House of Representatives asr-001137 02:27:48.020 --> 02:27:52.020 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: at o isang empleyado ng congressman, asr-001138 02:27:53.180 --> 02:27:57.680 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: na hindi po nagsubmit ng mga resibo sa kanilang liquidation, asr-001139 02:27:58.240 --> 02:27:59.940 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: eh magiging audit finding po ito. asr-001140 02:28:00.040 --> 02:28:02.720 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po ba, Honorable Sponsor? asr-001141 02:28:06.960 --> 02:28:08.220 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tama po. Tama po. asr-001142 02:28:10.920 --> 02:28:11.520 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Okay. asr-001144 02:28:23.180 --> 02:28:27.640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, since 2024 po ang pinakahuling may audit report, asr-001145 02:28:40.440 --> 02:28:44.140 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: magkano po ang nagastos po ng House of Representatives asr-001146 02:28:44.140 --> 02:28:51.900 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: sa supplies and materials noon pong 2024 base po sa COA audit report? asr-001147 02:28:53.180 --> 02:28:58.740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, tignan po namin yung mga records pa. asr-001148 02:29:03.940 --> 02:29:06.960 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, sa tingin ko po, habang hindi po sumasagot, asr-001149 02:29:07.060 --> 02:29:09.280 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: hindi po dapat gumagalaw po yung ora. asr-001150 02:29:09.700 --> 02:29:11.180 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Habang naghahanap silang sagot. asr-001154 02:30:48.950 --> 02:30:57.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Chair, may I ask for a suspension while we are collecting the data for 2024? asr-001154-split-2 02:30:57.640 --> 02:30:59.080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended. asr-001156 02:31:52.600 --> 02:31:59.980 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. The sponsor is requested to respond to the query of the Honorable Tiangco. asr-001157 02:32:00.000 --> 02:32:02.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-001158 02:32:04.340 --> 02:32:06.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung 2024 asr-001159 02:32:06.240 --> 02:32:08.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: annual audit report asr-001160 02:32:08.440 --> 02:32:09.380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: po ng COA, asr-001161 02:32:10.920 --> 02:32:12.100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung tanong tungkol asr-001162 02:32:12.100 --> 02:32:13.740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa supplies. So, asr-001163 02:32:15.480 --> 02:32:16.360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung sa supplies, asr-001164 02:32:16.580 --> 02:32:18.020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: meron po tayong nagasto asr-001165 02:32:18.020 --> 02:32:20.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na 15.472 asr-001166 02:32:21.340 --> 02:32:22.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: million. asr-001167 02:32:22.280 --> 02:32:24.960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 15,472,000. asr-001168 02:32:25.560 --> 02:32:26.320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero yung kabuhuan asr-001169 02:32:26.320 --> 02:32:27.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: po ng supplies, total supplies, asr-001170 02:32:27.980 --> 02:32:28.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: no? asr-001171 02:32:29.380 --> 02:32:29.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 84 asr-001172 02:32:30.000 --> 02:32:31.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: million asr-001173 02:32:31.640 --> 02:32:34.960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 788,000 asr-001174 02:32:34.960 --> 02:32:36.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: for the year 2024. asr-001175 02:32:36.980 --> 02:32:39.560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po yan. Doon po sa nakita ko, asr-001176 02:32:40.080 --> 02:32:41.460 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: mukhang, sa inyo po, asr-001177 02:32:41.560 --> 02:32:43.940 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: 84 million 788,000. asr-001178 02:32:43.940 --> 02:32:45.620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po, Honorable asr-001179 02:32:45.620 --> 02:32:46.940 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Sponsor? asr-001180 02:32:48.200 --> 02:32:49.560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Doon po sa nakita ko, it's asr-001181 02:32:49.560 --> 02:32:52.320 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: 84 million 790,000. asr-001182 02:32:52.520 --> 02:32:53.800 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, maliit lang po, diferensya. asr-001183 02:32:54.880 --> 02:32:55.760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Pero, yan po ang asr-001184 02:32:55.760 --> 02:32:57.620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: nagastos. Tama po, Honorable asr-001185 02:32:57.620 --> 02:32:58.140 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Sponsor? asr-001186 02:32:58.920 --> 02:32:59.800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes, po. asr-001187 02:33:00.000 --> 02:33:01.840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: As reflected in the record of asr-001188 02:33:01.840 --> 02:33:03.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 2024. Yes. asr-001189 02:33:03.820 --> 02:33:05.360 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Pero po, tama po ba asr-001190 02:33:05.360 --> 02:33:08.160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: na ang budget na allocated asr-001191 02:33:08.160 --> 02:33:09.480 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: po sa item na yan, asr-001192 02:33:10.340 --> 02:33:11.960 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: base sa COA audit report, asr-001193 02:33:12.560 --> 02:33:13.840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang inallocate po nating asr-001194 02:33:13.840 --> 02:33:14.940 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: budget ay asr-001195 02:33:14.940 --> 02:33:21.160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: P939,870,000. asr-001198 02:33:22.300 --> 02:33:28.640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: P939,870,000. asr-001203 02:33:30.000 --> 02:33:30.940 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po. asr-001205 02:33:33.340 --> 02:33:34.920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Chair, may I ask for another asr-001206 02:33:34.920 --> 02:33:36.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: suspension while collecting the data? asr-001207 02:33:37.860 --> 02:33:38.700 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended. asr-001232 02:40:34.000 --> 02:40:49.580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. The sponsor may now respond to the queries of the Honorable Tiangco. asr-001232-split-2 02:40:49.580 --> 02:40:58.200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: May I ask, ano po yung gist ng tanong ko? asr-001232-split-3 02:40:58.200 --> 02:40:59.500 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ganito po, Honorable Sponsor, asr-001235 02:40:59.660 --> 02:41:29.640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Dahil po doon sa COA report, halos magkatugma po tayo. Ang nagastos po sa supplies and materials for 2024, based sa COA audit report, is P84,790,000. Sa inyo po P84,788,000. Ang tanong ko po is doon sa COA report nakasulat po rin diyan magkano yung inallocate asr-001236 02:41:29.660 --> 02:41:59.640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: magkano po yung binudget ng House for supplies and materials for that year. Yun po yung aking tanong. So doon po sa COA audit report nila, magkano po ang naka-indicate na binudget? Kasi mahalaga yan, pag nag-budget tayo pinagkukumpara po ng COA kung nagastos po lahat dahil hindi naman tayo pwedeng sumobra ng gastos doon sa inallocate nating pondo. asr-001237 02:41:59.660 --> 02:42:29.640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kaya ang tanong ko po, magkano po ang naka-allocate na budget for supplies and materials for 2024 based doon sa COA report of 2024? Yun po, Mr. Sponsor. asr-001238 02:42:29.660 --> 02:42:59.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Interpellator. Itong mga katanungan regarding 2024 budget, and you have a copy also. So [unclear] po ito lahat. asr-001239 02:42:59.660 --> 02:43:29.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: It is reflected na yung tinatanong ninyo po ay, we are basing the same answer and questions sa annual audit report of 2024. So far as per record andiyan naman yan. asr-001240 02:43:29.660 --> 02:43:46.920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So more or less P939 million po. P939 million as reflected sa annual audit report. asr-001240-split-2 02:43:46.920 --> 02:43:59.640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: O tama po yan. So yun nga po, doon sa annual audit report, ang naka-reflect po is sa supplies and materials ang naka-budget po is asr-001241 02:43:59.660 --> 02:44:29.640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: P939,870,000, ngunit ang nagastos lang is P84,790,000. Ngayon po, punta po tayo sa utilities. Confirm na lang po ng COA doon sa kanilang COA audit report: ang budget po sa utilities is P854 million pero ang nagastos lang po is P113 million more or less. Tama po ba? asr-001244 02:45:00.000 --> 02:45:16.480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Okay, Madam Speaker, so far as Annual Audit Report 2024 is reflection of the budget. asr-001245 02:45:30.000 --> 02:45:35.380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung utility expenses. Ito ba? Utility expenses? asr-001246 02:45:35.500 --> 02:45:35.980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Opo, opo. asr-001247 02:45:38.440 --> 02:45:42.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ang kabuwang budget po ay 854. asr-001248 02:45:42.800 --> 02:45:43.220 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po. asr-001249 02:45:43.300 --> 02:45:43.760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: More or less. asr-001250 02:45:44.240 --> 02:45:44.620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po. asr-001251 02:45:45.480 --> 02:45:48.520 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ang nagastos po is 113 million. Tama po ba? asr-001252 02:45:49.600 --> 02:45:50.060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes po. asr-001253 02:45:50.060 --> 02:45:56.140 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Okay. So doon pa lang sa supplies and materials. asr-001254 02:45:58.500 --> 02:45:59.980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: For 2024. asr-001255 02:46:00.260 --> 02:46:01.380 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Based on the audit report. asr-001256 02:46:02.100 --> 02:46:08.360 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Merong hindi nagastos na 855 million. asr-001257 02:46:08.660 --> 02:46:11.420 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: At doon po sa 2024 utilities. asr-001258 02:46:11.600 --> 02:46:16.120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Meron pong hindi nagastos na 741 million. asr-001259 02:46:16.380 --> 02:46:18.080 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So ang sunod na tanong ko po. asr-001260 02:46:18.800 --> 02:46:24.080 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Saan po dinala itong savings na ito? asr-001261 02:46:25.140 --> 02:46:28.440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Yung 855 million. asr-001262 02:46:28.780 --> 02:46:29.980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: 80,000. asr-001263 02:46:30.100 --> 02:46:32.160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tsaka yung 741 million. asr-001264 02:46:33.360 --> 02:46:34.620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So hindi po nagastos yan. asr-001265 02:46:35.320 --> 02:46:36.540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Saan po nilipat yan? asr-001266 02:46:36.720 --> 02:46:37.360 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Nagastusin. asr-001267 02:46:39.100 --> 02:46:42.280 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Base po doon sa 2024 COA Audit Report. asr-001278 02:48:00.000 --> 02:48:29.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung pong tanong, ang trabaho po ng COA ay nag-a-audit po ng mga nagastos, what is being spent. Then kung saan po man nadala iyon, hindi na po alam ng COA yan. asr-001279 02:48:30.000 --> 02:48:47.920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: That is, hindi nila alam. So ang na-audit nila, yung nagastos. So whatever savings or saan man napunta, hindi alam ng COA. asr-001279-split-2 02:48:47.920 --> 02:48:59.980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Sa tingin ko po dapat alam po ng COA kung saan nilipat iyon dahil gagastusin po ulit iyon eh. So bago gastusin iyon, asr-001280 02:49:00.000 --> 02:49:18.920 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: kailangan pong i-realign iyon. So siguro po dapat po makita iyon. asr-001280-split-2 02:49:18.920 --> 02:49:29.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ganito na lang po siguro, ang atin pong pinag-usapan ngayon ay ang buong budget ng COA. We are here to seek our support. asr-001281 02:49:30.000 --> 02:49:59.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Matters of the budget of the House as early as 2024, 2023. To be fair with COA, andiyan naman yung report nila, binigay na nila. If we have some speculation, suspicion, it?s not fair for COA sila yung pananagutin asr-001282 02:50:00.000 --> 02:50:29.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kung saan man napunta ang pera. But for us here is to? they?re doing their job, andiyan naman yan as reflected sa annual audit report. Wala namang tinatago diyan, open naman yan. But to subject them to speculation, hindi na kasali ang COA diyan. asr-001283 02:50:30.000 --> 02:50:59.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Distinguished Interpellator, iyon po ang stand namin para ipaglaban natin yung COA. I think it?s no longer fair for them na tinatanong tayo tungkol sa budget ng House. Tayo ang dapat nakaalam, bakit ibang ahensya pa? This is our House, this is our budget. Dapat COA ginagawa nila ang trabaho nila. asr-001284 02:51:00.000 --> 02:51:10.600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung mga tanong nandiyan sa annual audit report. asr-001284-split-2 02:51:10.600 --> 02:51:29.980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, Honorable Sponsor, wala po akong duda, hindi ko pinagdududahan yung COA. Hindi po ako nags-speculate, in fact full support po ako sa budget ng COA for the record. So wala pong tanong doon. Ito pong tanong ko ay base po sa annual asr-001285 02:51:30.000 --> 02:51:59.980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: audit report nila na katungkulan nilang gawin. So sa tingin ko po wala pong masama doon sa mga tanong natin. Anyway, susunod na lang po doon sa extraordinary and miscellaneous expenses ng House, ang naka-budget po sa 2024 is P1.7 billion. Tama po? Tama po. asr-001286 02:52:00.000 --> 02:52:04.080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Chair, may I ask for a suspension? asr-001286-split-2 02:52:04.080 --> 02:52:09.800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended. So the distinguished sponsor can confer with the agency. asr-001303 02:57:42.000 --> 02:57:44.000 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. asr-001305 02:57:46.000 --> 02:57:48.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Okay. asr-001307 02:57:50.000 --> 02:57:52.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Speaker, asr-001309 02:57:54.000 --> 02:57:56.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: as far as asr-001310 02:57:56.000 --> 02:57:58.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 2024 asr-001311 02:57:58.000 --> 02:58:00.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: budget is concerned, asr-001312 02:58:00.000 --> 02:58:08.100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Andiyan naman sabi ko kanina, andiyan naman po niyan sa pabisayos na po niyan, lahat, open naman, transparent. asr-001313 02:58:09.160 --> 02:58:15.080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Para hindi po tayo masasayang ng panahon, ayaw ko na pong mag-respond. asr-001314 02:58:15.760 --> 02:58:22.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Any questions regarding the house, mga expenses for 2024? asr-001315 02:58:22.760 --> 02:58:37.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kung meron namang gustong itanong ang Distinguished Interpolator, pwede ba pakisulat na lang at itanong na lang natin sa proper authorities or proper office po. asr-001316 02:58:38.040 --> 02:58:42.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Iyon lang po ang buong kasagutan ng Distinguished Interpolator. asr-001317 02:58:44.100 --> 02:58:52.060 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, alam niyo po, yung mga katanungan ay tungkol po sa audit report ng COA. asr-001318 02:58:52.760 --> 02:58:56.340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, mandato po ng COA yan, kasama po sa mandato ng COA yan. asr-001319 02:58:56.960 --> 02:59:03.500 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Pero kung ayaw na pong sumagot ng Distinguished Sponsor sa kahit anong katanungan, wala naman po tayong magagawa. asr-001320 02:59:03.500 --> 02:59:07.380 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Then, hinto na po tayo sa pagtatanong kung ayaw na pong sumagot. asr-001321 02:59:07.740 --> 02:59:08.880 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Iyon lang po, Madam Speaker. asr-001322 02:59:11.220 --> 02:59:12.240 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Thank you po. Thank you. asr-001323 02:59:15.640 --> 02:59:17.800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Does the Honorable Chanko have further questions? asr-001324 02:59:17.900 --> 02:59:22.620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Wala na po, kasi sinabi na po ng ating sponsor na hindi na po siya sasagot sa kahit anong tanong. asr-001325 02:59:22.760 --> 02:59:27.320 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, paano pa po ako mag-tatanong kung iyon po ang desisyon? asr-001326 02:59:27.440 --> 02:59:29.560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi na rin po ako pwede magtanong, Madam Speaker. asr-001327 02:59:31.260 --> 02:59:36.460 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: I believe the Distinguished Sponsor is actually willing to respond to questions. asr-001328 02:59:36.460 --> 02:59:46.820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: And for the other queries of the Honorable Chanko, the Commission on Audit Family is hereby requested to submit all the documents that he is requesting. asr-001329 02:59:47.380 --> 02:59:48.080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader? asr-001330 02:59:52.760 --> 02:59:55.100 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, asr-001331 02:59:56.100 --> 02:59:59.960 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: I move that we asr-001332 03:00:00.000 --> 03:00:01.820 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: recognize the Honorable asr-001333 03:00:01.820 --> 03:00:08.180 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Robert Nazal of Partylist asr-001334 03:00:08.180 --> 03:00:09.440 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: BH asr-001335 03:00:09.440 --> 03:00:12.280 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Robert Nazal asr-001336 03:00:12.280 --> 03:00:14.480 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is hereby recognized for his interpellation. asr-001337 03:00:18.820 --> 03:00:20.320 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, I withdraw asr-001338 03:00:20.320 --> 03:00:20.960 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: my motion. asr-001339 03:00:22.100 --> 03:00:23.260 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, dagdag na lang po. asr-001340 03:00:24.400 --> 03:00:26.340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Liliwanagin ko lang po. I fully support asr-001341 03:00:26.340 --> 03:00:27.520 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: the budget. Before that, asr-001341-split-2 03:00:27.520 --> 03:00:27.960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the Honorable asr-001342 03:00:27.960 --> 03:00:29.180 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Chanko is recognized. asr-001343 03:00:29.180 --> 03:00:32.480 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Liliwanagin ko lang po. I fully support asr-001344 03:00:32.480 --> 03:00:33.840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: the budget of asr-001345 03:00:33.840 --> 03:00:35.340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: the COA. Yun lang po. asr-001346 03:00:36.240 --> 03:00:37.840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker. Thank you. Thank you po. Salamat. asr-001347 03:00:38.220 --> 03:00:39.100 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Maraming salamat. asr-001348 03:00:39.880 --> 03:00:40.660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. asr-001349 03:00:42.500 --> 03:00:44.580 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize asr-001350 03:00:44.580 --> 03:00:46.360 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: the Honorable Sarah Jane Elago asr-001351 03:00:46.360 --> 03:00:48.420 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: of the Partylist Gabriela asr-001352 03:00:48.420 --> 03:00:50.380 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: to interpellate on the proposed budget asr-001353 03:00:50.380 --> 03:00:52.220 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: of the Commission on Audit. asr-001354 03:00:52.300 --> 03:00:54.260 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela asr-001355 03:00:54.260 --> 03:00:56.680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Women's Partylist is hereby recognized asr-001356 03:00:56.680 --> 03:00:57.660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: for interpellation. asr-001357 03:00:59.180 --> 03:01:01.840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. asr-001358 03:01:02.980 --> 03:01:05.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Unang-una tungkol sa paggamit asr-001359 03:01:05.160 --> 03:01:06.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Gender and Development asr-001360 03:01:06.560 --> 03:01:08.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Fund. asr-001361 03:01:09.100 --> 03:01:10.600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang Magna Carta of Women asr-001362 03:01:10.600 --> 03:01:13.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: or Republic Act No. 9710 asr-001363 03:01:13.240 --> 03:01:15.500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang nagpapatibay asr-001364 03:01:15.500 --> 03:01:16.460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa legal asr-001365 03:01:16.460 --> 03:01:17.920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at asr-001366 03:01:17.920 --> 03:01:20.780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pampalisiya na pundasyon asr-001367 03:01:20.780 --> 03:01:23.040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa gender mainstreaming asr-001368 03:01:23.040 --> 03:01:25.340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Pilipinas. asr-001369 03:01:25.900 --> 03:01:27.100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: A cornerstone asr-001370 03:01:27.100 --> 03:01:28.840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of this law is Section asr-001371 03:01:28.840 --> 03:01:30.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 36A, which asr-001372 03:01:30.660 --> 03:01:32.780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mandates all government entities asr-001373 03:01:32.780 --> 03:01:34.760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to allocate at least 5% asr-001374 03:01:34.760 --> 03:01:36.600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of their total appropriations asr-001375 03:01:36.600 --> 03:01:38.340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to gender and development programs, asr-001376 03:01:38.500 --> 03:01:40.740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: activities, and projects to advance asr-001377 03:01:40.740 --> 03:01:42.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gender equality and women's empowerment. asr-001378 03:01:43.360 --> 03:01:44.780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari po ba nating asr-001379 03:01:44.780 --> 03:01:46.220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: malaman mula sa COA asr-001380 03:01:46.220 --> 03:01:48.480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung meron na po ba kayong asr-001381 03:01:48.480 --> 03:01:50.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na-issuhan halimbawa ng asr-001382 03:01:50.440 --> 03:01:53.080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: notice of disallowance asr-001383 03:01:53.080 --> 03:01:54.820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o meron po kayong asr-001384 03:01:54.820 --> 03:01:56.840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nilabas asr-001385 03:01:56.840 --> 03:01:58.320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na audit observation, asr-001386 03:01:58.840 --> 03:01:59.940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: memorandum, asr-001387 03:02:00.520 --> 03:02:02.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o kaya meron ba kayong nakita asr-001388 03:02:02.520 --> 03:02:05.080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na potensyal na administrative asr-001389 03:02:05.080 --> 03:02:06.060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: liability asr-001390 03:02:06.060 --> 03:02:08.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol sa paggamit ng asr-001391 03:02:08.660 --> 03:02:10.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Gender and Development asr-001392 03:02:10.160 --> 03:02:11.860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Fund asr-001393 03:02:11.860 --> 03:02:14.860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o compliance ng ating mga government asr-001394 03:02:14.860 --> 03:02:16.580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agencies sa kanilang asr-001395 03:02:16.580 --> 03:02:18.400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gender and development mandate? asr-001396 03:02:22.600 --> 03:02:23.920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: May I respond? asr-001397 03:02:28.140 --> 03:02:28.660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Yeah, asr-001398 03:02:28.660 --> 03:02:30.080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Distinguished Sponsor, please proceed. asr-001399 03:02:30.340 --> 03:02:32.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Okay, yung tanong po na asr-001400 03:02:32.980 --> 03:02:36.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kung meron na ba na-issuhan ng asr-001401 03:02:36.640 --> 03:02:38.520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: AOM or asr-001402 03:02:38.520 --> 03:02:40.620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: notice of disallowance tungkol asr-001403 03:02:40.620 --> 03:02:42.020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa paggamit ng asr-001404 03:02:42.020 --> 03:02:42.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: GAD. asr-001405 03:02:44.760 --> 03:02:46.840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Meron na po in the past asr-001406 03:02:46.840 --> 03:02:48.780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mga nakaraang taon, meron na po asr-001407 03:02:48.780 --> 03:02:51.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kasi hindi po siya asr-001408 03:02:51.120 --> 03:02:53.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sangayon sa guidelines asr-001409 03:02:53.000 --> 03:02:54.680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na ini-issued ng asr-001410 03:02:54.680 --> 03:02:56.680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Philippine asr-001411 03:02:58.660 --> 03:03:00.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Commission on Women. asr-001412 03:03:00.660 --> 03:03:04.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Meron na po. asr-001413 03:03:04.660 --> 03:03:06.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, maali ba natin malaman asr-001414 03:03:06.660 --> 03:03:08.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung ano po yung nature asr-001415 03:03:08.660 --> 03:03:10.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nitong mga notice of disallowance, asr-001416 03:03:10.660 --> 03:03:12.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: AOM, asr-001417 03:03:12.660 --> 03:03:14.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o yung potential asr-001418 03:03:14.660 --> 03:03:16.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na administrative liability? asr-001419 03:03:16.660 --> 03:03:18.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ito po ba ay tungkol halimbawa asr-001420 03:03:18.660 --> 03:03:20.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa diversion of funds? asr-001421 03:03:20.660 --> 03:03:22.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Halimbawa, meron din po kasing asr-001422 03:03:22.660 --> 03:03:24.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: observation ang Philippine Commission on Women asr-001423 03:03:24.660 --> 03:03:26.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na tinatrato itong parang asr-001424 03:03:26.660 --> 03:03:28.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: contingency or reserve funds. asr-001425 03:03:28.440 --> 03:03:30.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: O kaya naman, asr-001426 03:03:30.440 --> 03:03:32.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may kinalaman po ba ito sa asr-001427 03:03:32.440 --> 03:03:34.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bloating, asr-001428 03:03:34.440 --> 03:03:36.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: cost inflation? asr-001429 03:03:36.440 --> 03:03:38.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May kinalaman ba ito sa over-tagging? asr-001430 03:03:38.440 --> 03:03:40.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ibig sabihin po, asr-001431 03:03:40.440 --> 03:03:42.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagkalaki-laking mga pondo asr-001432 03:03:42.440 --> 03:03:44.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kanilang mga programa ang asr-001433 03:03:44.440 --> 03:03:46.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natatag bilang asr-001434 03:03:46.440 --> 03:03:48.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ginamit sa gender and development, asr-001435 03:03:48.440 --> 03:03:50.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: samantalang kung susuriin mo naman po asr-001436 03:03:50.440 --> 03:03:52.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano ito ginamit, asr-001437 03:03:52.440 --> 03:03:54.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay wala naman pong kinalaman asr-001438 03:03:54.440 --> 03:03:56.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa pagtitiyak ng asr-001439 03:03:56.440 --> 03:03:58.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: prinsipyo, halimbawa, ng Magna asr-001440 03:03:58.440 --> 03:04:00.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Carta of Women, o may kinalaman asr-001441 03:04:00.440 --> 03:04:02.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa prinsipyo ng tunguhin natin asr-001442 03:04:02.440 --> 03:04:04.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na gusto na pagkapantay-pantay, asr-001443 03:04:04.440 --> 03:04:06.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ito po ay hindi lang asr-001444 03:04:06.440 --> 03:04:08.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: magsisilbi sa mga kababaihan, asr-001445 03:04:08.440 --> 03:04:10.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kundi pati na rin sa mga kalalakihan asr-001446 03:04:10.440 --> 03:04:12.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa lahat ng kasarihan. asr-001447 03:04:20.440 --> 03:04:22.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Iyon po ang basihan asr-001448 03:04:22.440 --> 03:04:24.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na bakit po asr-001449 03:04:24.440 --> 03:04:28.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: merong audit observation, asr-001450 03:04:28.440 --> 03:04:30.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung paggamit ng asr-001451 03:04:30.440 --> 03:04:32.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: GAD, asr-001452 03:04:32.440 --> 03:04:34.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: GAD funds, asr-001453 03:04:34.440 --> 03:04:36.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: GAD na pondo, asr-001454 03:04:36.440 --> 03:04:38.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa kadahilanan asr-001455 03:04:38.440 --> 03:04:40.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na ito po ay asr-001456 03:04:42.440 --> 03:04:44.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: not in accordance sa asr-001457 03:04:44.440 --> 03:04:46.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: guidelines ng asr-001458 03:04:48.440 --> 03:04:50.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: PCW, asr-001459 03:04:50.440 --> 03:04:52.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Philippine Commission on Women. asr-001460 03:04:52.440 --> 03:04:54.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, iyon po ang asr-001461 03:04:54.440 --> 03:04:56.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: main reason, asr-001462 03:04:56.440 --> 03:04:58.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or asr-001463 03:04:58.440 --> 03:05:00.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: the gist of asr-001464 03:05:00.440 --> 03:05:02.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: the AOM. asr-001465 03:05:04.440 --> 03:05:06.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. asr-001466 03:05:06.440 --> 03:05:08.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po kasing halimbawa, asr-001467 03:05:08.440 --> 03:05:10.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron po tayong mga agencies asr-001468 03:05:10.440 --> 03:05:12.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at meron po tayong asr-001469 03:05:12.440 --> 03:05:14.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga asr-001470 03:05:14.440 --> 03:05:16.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga councils kung saan po asr-001471 03:05:16.440 --> 03:05:18.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang tagged as asr-001472 03:05:18.440 --> 03:05:20.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: utilized for the integration asr-001473 03:05:20.440 --> 03:05:22.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of gender and development. asr-001474 03:05:22.440 --> 03:05:24.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sing laki ng mga asr-001475 03:05:24.440 --> 03:05:26.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kalaking tipak ng pondo, halimbawa asr-001476 03:05:26.440 --> 03:05:28.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa DOLE, yung kanilang tupad asr-001477 03:05:28.440 --> 03:05:30.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na tagged na asr-001478 03:05:30.440 --> 03:05:32.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: integrated ang gender and development. asr-001479 03:05:32.440 --> 03:05:34.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero kung susuriin po natin asr-001480 03:05:34.440 --> 03:05:36.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano ba ito asr-001481 03:05:36.440 --> 03:05:38.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ibigay at asr-001482 03:05:38.440 --> 03:05:40.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na bigay na support na para asr-001483 03:05:40.440 --> 03:05:42.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga displaced workers, hindi naman po asr-001484 03:05:42.440 --> 03:05:44.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin makita kung paano asr-001485 03:05:44.440 --> 03:05:46.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: talagang na-integrate asr-001486 03:05:46.440 --> 03:05:48.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung prinsipyo ng pagtitiyak asr-001487 03:05:48.440 --> 03:05:50.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mas mataas na partisipasyon asr-001488 03:05:50.440 --> 03:05:52.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga kababaihan, o kung asr-001489 03:05:52.440 --> 03:05:54.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: paano ba matitiyak asr-001490 03:05:54.440 --> 03:05:56.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may particular asr-001491 03:05:56.440 --> 03:05:58.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: section dun sa asr-001492 03:05:58.440 --> 03:06:00.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: budget na asr-001493 03:06:00.440 --> 03:06:02.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nilalaan para sa mga kababaihan asr-001494 03:06:02.440 --> 03:06:04.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na walang trabaho o naghahanap ng trabaho. asr-001495 03:06:04.440 --> 03:06:06.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po ba sa ngayon asr-001496 03:06:06.440 --> 03:06:08.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na effort ang COA asr-001497 03:06:08.440 --> 03:06:10.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para maitulak asr-001498 03:06:10.440 --> 03:06:12.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mas malakas na asr-001499 03:06:12.440 --> 03:06:14.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagpapatupad ng guidelines na ito asr-001500 03:06:14.440 --> 03:06:16.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol sa gender and development asr-001501 03:06:16.440 --> 03:06:18.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: utilization? Mahalaga ito asr-001502 03:06:18.440 --> 03:06:20.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngayon, Madam Speaker, dahil asr-001503 03:06:20.440 --> 03:06:22.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron po tayong asr-001504 03:06:22.440 --> 03:06:24.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: panukala ngayon sa harap ng asr-001505 03:06:24.440 --> 03:06:26.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: House Committee on Women and Gender Equality asr-001506 03:06:26.440 --> 03:06:28.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nais at nagtutulak asr-001507 03:06:28.440 --> 03:06:30.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mas maitaas asr-001508 03:06:30.440 --> 03:06:32.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pa yung minimum na ginagastos asr-001509 03:06:32.440 --> 03:06:34.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: for GAD utilization. asr-001510 03:06:34.440 --> 03:06:36.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mahirap pong pag-usapan asr-001511 03:06:36.440 --> 03:06:38.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung pagtaas nito kung asr-001512 03:06:38.440 --> 03:06:40.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngayon pa lang dun sa minimum na asr-001513 03:06:40.440 --> 03:06:42.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 5%, ay hindi na po natin asr-001514 03:06:42.440 --> 03:06:44.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natitiyak na talagang nagagamit asr-001515 03:06:44.440 --> 03:06:46.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ito para sa layunin asr-001516 03:06:46.440 --> 03:06:48.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na magsilbi para sa integration asr-001517 03:06:48.440 --> 03:06:50.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng gender and development. asr-001518 03:06:50.440 --> 03:06:52.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, tanong asr-001519 03:06:52.440 --> 03:06:54.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: po na meron bang effort asr-001520 03:06:54.440 --> 03:06:56.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or asr-001521 03:06:58.440 --> 03:07:00.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mga asr-001522 03:07:00.440 --> 03:07:02.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pagsusumikap ang COA asr-001523 03:07:02.440 --> 03:07:04.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: para matugunan asr-001524 03:07:04.440 --> 03:07:06.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang gender asr-001525 03:07:06.440 --> 03:07:08.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and asr-001526 03:07:08.440 --> 03:07:10.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: development budget. asr-001527 03:07:10.440 --> 03:07:12.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ang ginagawa po asr-001528 03:07:12.440 --> 03:07:14.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng COA, asr-001529 03:07:14.440 --> 03:07:16.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: lahat po ng ahensya asr-001530 03:07:16.440 --> 03:07:18.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng goberno, national asr-001531 03:07:18.440 --> 03:07:20.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: agencies, asr-001532 03:07:20.440 --> 03:07:22.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: local government units, asr-001533 03:07:22.440 --> 03:07:24.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: GOCCs, asr-001534 03:07:24.440 --> 03:07:26.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pati na mga asr-001535 03:07:26.440 --> 03:07:28.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: barangay. asr-001536 03:07:30.440 --> 03:07:32.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kanila po asr-001537 03:07:32.440 --> 03:07:34.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: itong asr-001538 03:07:34.440 --> 03:07:36.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: monitor, asr-001539 03:07:36.440 --> 03:07:38.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sinusubaybayan. asr-001540 03:07:38.440 --> 03:07:40.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Paano pinupunduhan o paano asr-001541 03:07:40.440 --> 03:07:42.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ginamit ang pundo asr-001542 03:07:42.440 --> 03:07:44.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng GAD? asr-001543 03:07:44.440 --> 03:07:46.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito po lahat, asr-001544 03:07:46.440 --> 03:07:48.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: nasa kanilang asr-001545 03:07:48.440 --> 03:07:50.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: report in their annual audit asr-001546 03:07:50.440 --> 03:07:52.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: reports. Mayroon po, asr-001547 03:07:52.440 --> 03:07:54.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mayroon talagang asr-001548 03:07:54.440 --> 03:07:56.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: komentaryo or about sa GAD asr-001549 03:07:56.440 --> 03:07:58.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kung nagagamit ba talaga nila asr-001550 03:07:58.440 --> 03:08:00.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: in accordance with the asr-001551 03:08:00.440 --> 03:08:02.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: guidelines of the PCW. asr-001552 03:08:02.440 --> 03:08:04.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat asr-001553 03:08:04.440 --> 03:08:06.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker at asr-001554 03:08:06.440 --> 03:08:08.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang advisory po na ito asr-001555 03:08:08.440 --> 03:08:10.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay lumabas lang kasi nitong asr-001556 03:08:10.440 --> 03:08:12.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2025 at hangad natin na ang asr-001557 03:08:12.440 --> 03:08:14.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lahat ng mga agencies asr-001558 03:08:14.440 --> 03:08:16.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin, ang mga komisyon asr-001559 03:08:16.440 --> 03:08:18.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kabilang sa nagpalakas asr-001560 03:08:18.440 --> 03:08:20.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nitong guidelines para sa GAD asr-001561 03:08:20.440 --> 03:08:22.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: matiyak talaga na yung asr-001562 03:08:22.440 --> 03:08:24.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga implementers natin, asr-001563 03:08:24.440 --> 03:08:26.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga enforcers ay meron asr-001564 03:08:26.440 --> 03:08:28.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ding halimbawan training tungkol asr-001565 03:08:28.440 --> 03:08:30.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ano ba yung asr-001566 03:08:30.440 --> 03:08:32.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: prinsipyo ng gender and development asr-001567 03:08:32.440 --> 03:08:34.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hindi dapat asr-001568 03:08:34.440 --> 03:08:36.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natuturing nahiwalay yung asr-001569 03:08:36.440 --> 03:08:38.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: paggastos sa GAD, kundi integrated asr-001570 03:08:38.440 --> 03:08:40.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dun sa mga mayor na nilang asr-001571 03:08:40.440 --> 03:08:42.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga programa at mga asr-001572 03:08:42.440 --> 03:08:44.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mandato nila bilang mga asr-001573 03:08:44.440 --> 03:08:46.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agencies o mga komisyon. asr-001574 03:08:46.440 --> 03:08:48.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po, hihingi na lang po natin asr-001575 03:08:48.440 --> 03:08:50.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung buong ulat dito ng COA, asr-001576 03:08:50.440 --> 03:08:52.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at hangad po natin na makipagupuan din asr-001577 03:08:52.440 --> 03:08:54.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa PCW at sa asr-001578 03:08:54.440 --> 03:08:56.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga relevant agencies kung paano asr-001579 03:08:56.440 --> 03:08:58.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: matitiyak na ang asr-001580 03:08:58.440 --> 03:09:00.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: GAD utilization para po talaga sa GAD asr-001581 03:09:00.440 --> 03:09:02.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at hindi yung asr-001582 03:09:02.440 --> 03:09:04.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga pagpuna po sa ngayon asr-001583 03:09:04.440 --> 03:09:06.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakikita na lamang ito asr-001584 03:09:06.440 --> 03:09:08.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bilang pandagdag na pondo asr-001585 03:09:08.440 --> 03:09:10.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o kaya naman ay asr-001586 03:09:10.440 --> 03:09:12.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagagamit din asr-001587 03:09:12.440 --> 03:09:14.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dun sa mga wala namang kinalaman asr-001588 03:09:14.440 --> 03:09:16.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mga programa sa asr-001589 03:09:16.440 --> 03:09:18.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: GAD. Ngayon naman, asr-001590 03:09:18.440 --> 03:09:20.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, ngayon po ay asr-001591 03:09:20.440 --> 03:09:22.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: September 21, first year asr-001592 03:09:22.440 --> 03:09:24.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: anniversary nung Baha sa Luneta at asr-001593 03:09:24.440 --> 03:09:26.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Trilyon Peso March, kung saan asr-001594 03:09:26.440 --> 03:09:28.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagmarcha yung libo-libo nating asr-001595 03:09:28.440 --> 03:09:30.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga kababayan na nananawagan asr-001596 03:09:30.440 --> 03:09:32.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng transparency, asr-001597 03:09:32.440 --> 03:09:34.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: accountability, asr-001598 03:09:34.440 --> 03:09:36.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lahat ng sangkot sa korupsyon dapat asr-001599 03:09:36.440 --> 03:09:38.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: managot. At yung isa po asr-001600 03:09:38.440 --> 03:09:40.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga binabantayan asr-001601 03:09:40.440 --> 03:09:42.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating mga kababayan ay asr-001602 03:09:42.440 --> 03:09:44.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang paggamit ng confidential asr-001603 03:09:44.440 --> 03:09:46.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and intelligence funds. Para po asr-001604 03:09:46.440 --> 03:09:48.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa taong 2027, asr-001605 03:09:48.440 --> 03:09:50.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ilang agencies po ba ang may asr-001606 03:09:50.440 --> 03:09:52.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: confidential and intelligence funds? asr-001607 03:09:56.440 --> 03:09:58.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker po. asr-001608 03:09:58.440 --> 03:09:59.430 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 2027 po? asr-001608-split-2 03:09:59.430 --> 03:10:00.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes. asr-001609 03:10:00.440 --> 03:10:02.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: For the proposed 2027 budget. asr-001610 03:10:02.440 --> 03:10:04.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: For the proposed asr-001611 03:10:04.440 --> 03:10:06.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: itong budget natin ngayon? asr-001612 03:10:06.440 --> 03:10:08.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: For the next year, Madam Speaker. asr-001613 03:10:18.440 --> 03:10:24.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Speaker, asr-001614 03:10:24.440 --> 03:10:26.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang COA po asr-001615 03:10:26.440 --> 03:10:28.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: as of now, asr-001616 03:10:28.440 --> 03:10:30.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ngayon po, asr-001617 03:10:30.440 --> 03:10:32.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: wala pa pong asr-001618 03:10:32.440 --> 03:10:34.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: data asr-001619 03:10:34.440 --> 03:10:36.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kung ilan mga asr-001620 03:10:36.440 --> 03:10:38.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ahensya ng goberno asr-001621 03:10:38.440 --> 03:10:40.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang merong confidential asr-001622 03:10:40.440 --> 03:10:42.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and intelligence funds asr-001623 03:10:42.440 --> 03:10:44.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: for next year, for 2027. asr-001624 03:10:44.440 --> 03:10:46.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Wala pa po. asr-001625 03:10:46.440 --> 03:10:48.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, ang pagmamahal asr-001626 03:10:48.440 --> 03:10:50.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pwede na lang po natin hingin ay asr-001627 03:10:50.440 --> 03:10:52.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung para sa 2025. asr-001628 03:10:52.440 --> 03:10:54.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ilang asr-001629 03:10:54.440 --> 03:10:56.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agencies po ba? Kasi asr-001630 03:10:56.440 --> 03:10:58.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa 2025 po, malamang po sa ngayon asr-001631 03:10:58.440 --> 03:11:00.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tapos na po lahat ng asr-001632 03:11:00.440 --> 03:11:02.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: reporting na may kinalaman asr-001633 03:11:02.440 --> 03:11:04.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa utilization. Yung 2025 asr-001634 03:11:04.440 --> 03:11:06.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na lang po ang ating kunin. asr-001635 03:11:18.440 --> 03:11:22.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ... asr-001636 03:11:42.440 --> 03:11:44.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, Madam Speaker, asr-001637 03:11:44.440 --> 03:11:46.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa tanong po, asr-001638 03:11:46.440 --> 03:11:48.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: itong ilang asr-001639 03:11:48.440 --> 03:11:50.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ahensya ng goberno asr-001640 03:11:50.180 --> 03:11:52.460 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na merong intelligence asr-001641 03:11:52.460 --> 03:11:53.080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: fund? asr-001642 03:11:54.880 --> 03:11:55.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka asr-001643 03:11:55.340 --> 03:11:58.420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ilang ahensya asr-001644 03:11:58.420 --> 03:12:00.580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng goberno na merong confidential asr-001645 03:12:00.580 --> 03:12:01.260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: fund? asr-001646 03:12:02.180 --> 03:12:02.380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Okay. asr-001647 03:12:04.340 --> 03:12:06.320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito po yung sagot asr-001648 03:12:06.320 --> 03:12:07.200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: as to numbers. asr-001649 03:12:07.520 --> 03:12:10.520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung merong intelligence fund, asr-001650 03:12:11.520 --> 03:12:12.680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: meron po tayong asr-001651 03:12:12.680 --> 03:12:13.620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 38, asr-001652 03:12:13.920 --> 03:12:14.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 38, asr-001653 03:12:14.980 --> 03:12:15.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 38 asr-001654 03:12:15.180 --> 03:12:18.800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: national agencies. asr-001655 03:12:20.720 --> 03:12:20.960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung asr-001656 03:12:20.960 --> 03:12:26.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 25 pala, 25. asr-001657 03:12:27.400 --> 03:12:28.260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 25, no? asr-001658 03:12:29.460 --> 03:12:30.800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito, 25 pala. asr-001659 03:12:30.900 --> 03:12:31.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito, asr-001660 03:12:31.320 --> 03:12:34.380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 25, [unclear], asr-001661 03:12:34.700 --> 03:12:37.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na ahensya ng national government asr-001662 03:12:37.120 --> 03:12:39.200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na merong intel fund. asr-001663 03:12:40.600 --> 03:12:41.320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung namang asr-001664 03:12:41.320 --> 03:12:43.020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: confidential fund asr-001665 03:12:43.020 --> 03:12:44.060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or confi fund, asr-001666 03:12:44.640 --> 03:12:45.160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: merong asr-001667 03:12:45.160 --> 03:12:46.480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 19 asr-001668 03:12:46.480 --> 03:12:49.420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ahensya ng goberno. asr-001669 03:12:51.760 --> 03:12:52.140 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka, asr-001670 03:12:53.160 --> 03:12:53.960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: meron dito, asr-001671 03:12:54.920 --> 03:12:56.740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: merong intel fund asr-001672 03:12:56.740 --> 03:12:58.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and confi fund. asr-001673 03:12:59.580 --> 03:13:00.860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tatlong ahensya. asr-001674 03:13:02.740 --> 03:13:05.040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. asr-001675 03:13:05.860 --> 03:13:07.480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ihingin po natin yung listahan asr-001676 03:13:07.480 --> 03:13:08.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga asr-001677 03:13:08.980 --> 03:13:10.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agencies na ito. asr-001678 03:13:10.940 --> 03:13:12.620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, mula po 2024, asr-001679 03:13:12.620 --> 03:13:13.380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na asr-001680 03:13:13.380 --> 03:13:14.620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nabusitin asr-001681 03:13:15.160 --> 03:13:15.920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na rin po asr-001682 03:13:15.920 --> 03:13:16.840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng taong bayan asr-001683 03:13:16.840 --> 03:13:18.100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung tukol sa pagkakaroon asr-001684 03:13:18.100 --> 03:13:19.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng confidential funds asr-001685 03:13:19.560 --> 03:13:21.080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at intelligence funds. asr-001686 03:13:21.400 --> 03:13:22.100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na asr-001687 03:13:22.100 --> 03:13:23.360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga civilian agencies asr-001688 03:13:23.360 --> 03:13:24.820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na wala namang kinalaman asr-001689 03:13:24.820 --> 03:13:26.040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa law enforcement, asr-001690 03:13:26.220 --> 03:13:26.860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: investigation, asr-001691 03:13:27.400 --> 03:13:28.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at national security. asr-001692 03:13:28.740 --> 03:13:29.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ngayon po ba, asr-001693 03:13:29.540 --> 03:13:30.320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may review na asr-001694 03:13:30.320 --> 03:13:32.000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ginagawa ang COA asr-001695 03:13:32.000 --> 03:13:33.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano titiyakin asr-001696 03:13:33.720 --> 03:13:34.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na asr-001697 03:13:34.520 --> 03:13:36.740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: magagamit asr-001698 03:13:36.740 --> 03:13:37.400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng maayos asr-001699 03:13:37.400 --> 03:13:38.400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itong CIF asr-001700 03:13:38.400 --> 03:13:39.800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at yung proposals asr-001701 03:13:39.800 --> 03:13:40.960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula rin po asr-001702 03:13:40.960 --> 03:13:42.800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa representasyon na ito asr-001703 03:13:42.800 --> 03:13:44.140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at maraming boses. asr-001704 03:13:44.140 --> 03:13:45.760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi lang po dito asr-001705 03:13:45.760 --> 03:13:46.880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa House of Representatives asr-001706 03:13:46.880 --> 03:13:49.040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero sa ating civil society asr-001707 03:13:49.040 --> 03:13:50.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang nananawagan asr-001708 03:13:50.160 --> 03:13:51.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na dapat huwag asr-001709 03:13:51.200 --> 03:13:51.960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng payagan asr-001710 03:13:51.960 --> 03:13:53.100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga civilian asr-001711 03:13:53.100 --> 03:13:54.400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agencies asr-001712 03:13:54.400 --> 03:13:55.140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na gumamit asr-001713 03:13:55.660 --> 03:13:56.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng CIF asr-001714 03:13:56.420 --> 03:13:57.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil nga asr-001715 03:13:57.160 --> 03:13:58.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: napakalimitado lang asr-001716 03:13:58.440 --> 03:13:59.140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng asr-001717 03:13:59.140 --> 03:14:00.900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: transparency mechanism asr-001718 03:14:00.900 --> 03:14:01.580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at asr-001719 03:14:01.580 --> 03:14:03.120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: very limited po asr-001720 03:14:03.120 --> 03:14:04.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung asr-001721 03:14:04.160 --> 03:14:06.860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung pagtitiyak asr-001722 03:14:06.860 --> 03:14:08.400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na yung taong bayan mismo asr-001723 03:14:08.400 --> 03:14:09.620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makapagbabantay asr-001724 03:14:09.620 --> 03:14:10.880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga pondong ito asr-001725 03:14:10.880 --> 03:14:11.680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil sa kanyang asr-001726 03:14:11.680 --> 03:14:12.180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nature. asr-001727 03:14:14.140 --> 03:14:17.960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mayroon na pong asr-001728 03:14:17.960 --> 03:14:19.740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: speaker asr-001729 03:14:19.740 --> 03:14:20.740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang ginawang asr-001730 03:14:20.740 --> 03:14:22.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pag-aaral asr-001731 03:14:22.640 --> 03:14:23.080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or asr-001732 03:14:23.080 --> 03:14:24.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mungkahi asr-001733 03:14:24.300 --> 03:14:25.280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang asr-001734 03:14:25.280 --> 03:14:26.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: COA asr-001735 03:14:26.720 --> 03:14:29.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: together with asr-001736 03:14:29.180 --> 03:14:31.040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: [unclear] asr-001737 03:14:31.040 --> 03:14:33.280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Department of National Defense asr-001738 03:14:33.280 --> 03:14:34.280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: DILG asr-001739 03:14:34.280 --> 03:14:34.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and asr-001740 03:14:34.640 --> 03:14:35.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Government asr-001741 03:14:35.660 --> 03:14:36.840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Corporate asr-001742 03:14:36.840 --> 03:14:38.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: [unclear] asr-001743 03:14:38.180 --> 03:14:39.080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: so asr-001744 03:14:39.080 --> 03:14:41.200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ito po asr-001745 03:14:41.200 --> 03:14:41.700 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ay asr-001747 03:14:44.140 --> 03:14:44.800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: baguhin asr-001748 03:14:44.800 --> 03:14:45.540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: revised asr-001749 03:14:45.540 --> 03:14:47.160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: the use asr-001750 03:14:47.160 --> 03:14:48.080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: of asr-001751 03:14:48.080 --> 03:14:49.600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: confidential asr-001752 03:14:49.600 --> 03:14:50.920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and intelligence asr-001753 03:14:50.920 --> 03:14:51.460 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: funds. asr-001754 03:14:52.880 --> 03:14:54.200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mayroon na po asr-001755 03:14:54.200 --> 03:14:55.060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yun po ang asr-001756 03:14:55.060 --> 03:14:56.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mga asr-001757 03:14:56.300 --> 03:14:57.160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: observation asr-001758 03:14:57.160 --> 03:14:59.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na ginagawa asr-001759 03:14:59.240 --> 03:14:59.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or asr-001782 03:15:00.000 --> 03:15:09.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mga effort ng COA ngayon na baguhin ang guidelines sa paggamit ng confidential and intelligence funds. asr-001783 03:15:10.080 --> 03:15:16.300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, kailan po ilalabas itong revised guidelines on the use of Confidential and Intelligence Funds? asr-001784 03:15:17.180 --> 03:15:22.480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ano po yung mga mayor na pagbabago sa mga guidelines na ito? asr-001785 03:15:30.000 --> 03:15:40.860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, sa ngayon po, because it involves a lot of agencies, tinatrabaho na po. asr-001786 03:15:41.760 --> 03:15:46.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ang ginagawa ng ano, ito yung mga observation na dapat baguhin. asr-001787 03:15:47.200 --> 03:15:51.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung use of aliases or code names. asr-001788 03:15:52.740 --> 03:15:56.860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung tungkol sa evidence of success, yung mga rewards. asr-001789 03:15:58.120 --> 03:15:59.860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tungkol sa mga allowed experiences. asr-001790 03:16:00.000 --> 03:16:06.380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka yung hanggang saan ang clearance ng auditor. asr-001791 03:16:07.480 --> 03:16:09.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Security clearance ng mga auditor. asr-001792 03:16:11.080 --> 03:16:15.420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka yung paggamit ng mga generic acknowledgement receipts. asr-001793 03:16:16.780 --> 03:16:20.880 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, ito po ang mga pagbabago na ginagawa ngayon. asr-001794 03:16:21.060 --> 03:16:22.220 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Working progress po ito. asr-001795 03:16:22.640 --> 03:16:27.820 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: As to when, I think, within the soonest possible time. asr-001796 03:16:27.820 --> 03:16:29.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Hindi pa maibigay ng COA kung kailan matapos. asr-001797 03:16:30.000 --> 03:16:38.780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: But there are now efforts to really revise that 2015 Memorandum Circular. asr-001798 03:16:39.880 --> 03:16:44.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, bakit hindi po kasama dito yung pagbabawal? asr-001799 03:16:44.800 --> 03:16:49.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ay may kinalaman sa National Security Law Enforcement and Investigation. asr-001800 03:16:50.140 --> 03:16:57.000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po ba panahon na para malinaw na may prohibition sa paggamit ng confidential funds, asr-001801 03:16:57.000 --> 03:17:00.000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng intelligence funds, ang mga civilian agents? asr-001802 03:17:00.000 --> 03:17:09.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mr. Speaker, it is Congress, tayo po mismo, asr-001803 03:17:10.560 --> 03:17:21.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang naggawa ng mga guidelines through our GAA for what we call the Provisional Conditions. asr-001804 03:17:21.720 --> 03:17:28.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tayo mismo, sino yung dapat bigyan at hindi bigyan. asr-001805 03:17:28.840 --> 03:17:29.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, asr-001806 03:17:30.000 --> 03:17:34.020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: that is yung ginagawa natin. asr-001807 03:17:34.200 --> 03:17:35.480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yan ang ginagawa natin. asr-001808 03:17:35.880 --> 03:17:40.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tayo mismo ang nag-identify sinong bigyan at saka hindi bigyan. asr-001809 03:17:42.760 --> 03:17:43.360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So... asr-001810 03:17:43.360 --> 03:17:47.320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, kung magbibigay po ng rekomendasyon ang COA, asr-001811 03:17:48.380 --> 03:17:54.900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: what would you recommend with regard to the use of confidential and intelligence funds by civilian agencies? asr-001812 03:18:00.000 --> 03:18:14.840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito po yung mga dapat na mangyari. asr-001813 03:18:14.840 --> 03:18:25.580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung observation ng COA, yun na, ang paggamit ng resibo, very generic. asr-001814 03:18:27.280 --> 03:18:29.960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung paggamit ng mga aliases. asr-001815 03:18:30.000 --> 03:18:31.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Or code names, no? asr-001816 03:18:32.700 --> 03:18:35.020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka yung rewards, no? asr-001817 03:18:35.160 --> 03:18:36.860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ano bang dapat bigyan ng rewards? asr-001818 03:18:37.020 --> 03:18:38.400 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Dahil ba success? asr-001819 03:18:38.620 --> 03:18:40.520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ano yung evidence of success, no? asr-001820 03:18:41.400 --> 03:18:42.960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka yung allowed expenses. asr-001821 03:18:43.360 --> 03:18:47.880 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ano ba yung mga dapat na expenses na allowed, no? asr-001822 03:18:48.120 --> 03:18:49.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Or hindi, allowed. asr-001823 03:18:49.940 --> 03:18:52.540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, yun po ang mga minamungkahi ng COA, no? asr-001824 03:18:52.940 --> 03:18:55.320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Regards this Confi and Intelligence Fund. asr-001825 03:18:57.680 --> 03:18:59.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung IDUS naman, asr-001826 03:19:00.000 --> 03:19:03.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang LGUs, no? asr-001827 03:19:04.380 --> 03:19:09.800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Meron rito mga intelligence and confidential funds, no? asr-001828 03:19:12.520 --> 03:19:13.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, asr-001829 03:19:14.540 --> 03:19:17.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: minamungkahi po ng COA, ang DILG, asr-001830 03:19:18.400 --> 03:19:22.600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na maggawa din sila ng sarili nilang guidelines, no? asr-001831 03:19:22.640 --> 03:19:23.880 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Paano gamitin, no? asr-001832 03:19:24.220 --> 03:19:25.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Although, meron joint circular, asr-001833 03:19:26.620 --> 03:19:26.920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pero, asr-001834 03:19:27.960 --> 03:19:29.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: so, hopefully, no? asr-001835 03:19:30.000 --> 03:19:33.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Hopefully, soon, nalabas na yung bagong revised guidelines. asr-001836 03:19:34.680 --> 03:19:40.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Para naman, to answer or respond to the call of the people, asr-001837 03:19:41.040 --> 03:19:43.620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung paggamit ng mga intel and confi funds. asr-001838 03:19:45.000 --> 03:19:52.380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, wala bang maibibigay sa atin na espesipiko na petsa, na buwan, asr-001839 03:19:53.260 --> 03:19:58.480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung kailan po natin mapagtitibay at mapapalakas ang mga guidelines na ito? asr-001840 03:19:58.960 --> 03:19:59.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mahalaga po ito. asr-001841 03:20:00.000 --> 03:20:01.100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil ngayon pa lang, asr-001842 03:20:01.420 --> 03:20:03.600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron na sa ating mga general provisions asr-001843 03:20:03.600 --> 03:20:06.860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang tungkol sa paggamit ng confidential and intelligence funds. asr-001844 03:20:07.020 --> 03:20:12.640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nararapat lang na yung mga rekomendasyon sa pagpapalakas nito asr-001845 03:20:12.640 --> 03:20:17.300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay mailabas na agad ng COA at ang ibang mga agencies, asr-001846 03:20:17.520 --> 03:20:18.740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga departamento, asr-001847 03:20:19.220 --> 03:20:21.040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kabilang sa pagpapalakas nito. asr-001848 03:20:26.160 --> 03:20:27.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mr. Speaker, asr-001849 03:20:27.340 --> 03:20:29.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: as to when, asr-001850 03:20:29.120 --> 03:20:32.420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kung kailan lalabas ito, asr-001851 03:20:33.240 --> 03:20:36.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: COA will do its best effort. asr-001852 03:20:37.380 --> 03:20:42.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kung COA lang ang masusunod within the year. asr-001853 03:20:43.100 --> 03:20:44.480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero ang problema, asr-001854 03:20:45.460 --> 03:20:46.820 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: meron pang ibang ahensya. asr-001855 03:20:47.920 --> 03:20:50.020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Enter agencies coordination, asr-001856 03:20:50.700 --> 03:20:52.060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: lalo ng DBM. asr-001857 03:20:53.060 --> 03:20:55.540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tagal, daming daanan. asr-001858 03:20:55.540 --> 03:20:56.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, asr-001859 03:20:56.840 --> 03:20:58.780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: siguro remotely, asr-001860 03:20:59.120 --> 03:21:04.760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa mga first semester of next year hanggang June of next year, asr-001861 03:21:04.760 --> 03:21:11.920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: may lalabas ng bagong guidelines sa paggamit ng CONFIE and Intel Fund. asr-001862 03:21:13.200 --> 03:21:17.620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, nakita na rin natin sa mga deliberasyon dito sa Kongreso asr-001863 03:21:17.620 --> 03:21:22.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano pong napakahirap i-audit nitong confidential and intelligence funds asr-001864 03:21:22.420 --> 03:21:23.880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil nga sa nature nito. asr-001865 03:21:23.880 --> 03:21:26.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na kaya kung pwede pa natin mas ma-restrict, asr-001866 03:21:26.660 --> 03:21:27.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: no, asr-001867 03:21:27.160 --> 03:21:28.060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ma-linaw. asr-001868 03:21:28.060 --> 03:21:28.960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Halimbawa, asr-001869 03:21:28.960 --> 03:21:29.460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na lang asr-001870 03:21:29.460 --> 03:21:33.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang matagal nang mungkahi na huwag nang payagan ang mga civilian agencies asr-001871 03:21:33.560 --> 03:21:36.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na gumamit ng ganitong tipo ng mga pondo. asr-001872 03:21:36.200 --> 03:21:38.300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil lahat naman ang nasa mandato nila, asr-001873 03:21:38.300 --> 03:21:39.460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pwede nilang gawin. asr-001874 03:21:39.460 --> 03:21:39.960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: No? asr-001875 03:21:39.960 --> 03:21:41.120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nang may transparency, asr-001876 03:21:41.120 --> 03:21:42.280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may accountability, asr-001877 03:21:42.280 --> 03:21:47.400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nang hindi gumagamit ng ni-piso ng confidential and intelligence funds. asr-001878 03:21:47.400 --> 03:21:49.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, sa asr-001879 03:21:49.240 --> 03:21:51.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang tamang panahon dito sa plenaryo, asr-001880 03:21:51.240 --> 03:21:53.540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tayo po ay mag- asr-001881 03:21:54.560 --> 03:21:55.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mananawagan asr-001882 03:21:55.720 --> 03:21:56.600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng malakas, asr-001883 03:21:56.600 --> 03:21:58.920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natanggalin po yung pagpayag, asr-001884 03:21:58.920 --> 03:22:03.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa paggamit ng civilian government agencies ng confidential and intelligence funds asr-001885 03:22:03.720 --> 03:22:10.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakapaloob mismo sa ating panukala para sa susunod na taon sa Fiscal Year 2027, asr-001886 03:22:10.720 --> 03:22:14.920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakalagay po sa ating Seksyon 92, asr-001887 03:22:14.920 --> 03:22:21.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakalagay po dito na pinapayagan gumamit ang civilian government agencies ng confidential funds. asr-001888 03:22:21.420 --> 03:22:25.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Naninindigan po ang representasyon na ito na dapat na itong maibasura, asr-001889 03:22:25.420 --> 03:22:28.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat na itong matanggal sa mga pinapayagan natin. asr-001890 03:22:28.920 --> 03:22:31.120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para sa interes asr-001891 03:22:31.120 --> 03:22:34.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mas mahigpit ng mga mekanismo para sa pananagutan. asr-001892 03:22:34.560 --> 03:22:36.120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker. asr-001893 03:22:36.120 --> 03:22:38.120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Distinguished Sponsor. asr-001894 03:22:38.120 --> 03:22:39.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Thank you. asr-001895 03:22:39.120 --> 03:22:42.380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Rep. Sarah Jain, salamat. asr-001896 03:22:43.720 --> 03:22:45.320 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Maraming salamat, asr-001897 03:22:45.320 --> 03:22:47.580 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Kong Elago. asr-001898 03:22:47.580 --> 03:22:49.580 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Kabataan Party-list. asr-001899 03:22:49.580 --> 03:22:51.580 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Majority Leader, please. asr-001900 03:22:57.260 --> 03:22:58.380 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize asr-001901 03:22:58.920 --> 03:23:00.100 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: the Honorable asr-001902 03:23:00.100 --> 03:23:03.220 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Tino of the asr-001903 03:23:03.220 --> 03:23:04.640 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: ACT Teachers asr-001904 03:23:04.640 --> 03:23:07.220 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Party-list to interpellate asr-001905 03:23:07.220 --> 03:23:09.340 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. asr-001906 03:23:09.880 --> 03:23:10.840 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Thank you, Majority Leader. asr-001907 03:23:12.120 --> 03:23:13.040 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Congressperson asr-001908 03:23:13.040 --> 03:23:15.020 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Tino asr-001909 03:23:15.020 --> 03:23:17.160 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: of ACT Teachers Partylist, asr-001910 03:23:18.660 --> 03:23:19.160 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: sir, you're asr-001911 03:23:19.160 --> 03:23:20.020 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: recognized. asr-001912 03:23:26.020 --> 03:23:27.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, asr-001913 03:23:27.340 --> 03:23:27.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Speaker. asr-001914 03:23:28.920 --> 03:23:30.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, Mr. Speaker, for asr-001915 03:23:30.720 --> 03:23:33.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027, the asr-001916 03:23:33.120 --> 03:23:34.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proposed budget asr-001917 03:23:34.760 --> 03:23:37.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of COA is asr-001918 03:23:37.020 --> 03:23:39.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 14.7 billion pesos. asr-001919 03:23:41.100 --> 03:23:43.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, ang tanong ko po asr-001920 03:23:43.260 --> 03:23:45.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay mas asr-001921 03:23:45.520 --> 03:23:47.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung kalagayan asr-001922 03:23:47.440 --> 03:23:48.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng COA ngayon, asr-001923 03:23:49.980 --> 03:23:52.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particularly asr-001924 03:23:52.280 --> 03:23:54.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with regard asr-001925 03:23:54.440 --> 03:23:57.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to one of its three asr-001926 03:23:57.320 --> 03:23:58.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: commissioners. asr-001927 03:23:58.920 --> 03:24:01.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, alam po natin, asr-001928 03:24:02.420 --> 03:24:02.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayon sa asr-001929 03:24:02.980 --> 03:24:05.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Constitution at Batas, tatlo ang asr-001930 03:24:05.220 --> 03:24:06.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga commissioner asr-001931 03:24:06.860 --> 03:24:07.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng COA. asr-001932 03:24:09.200 --> 03:24:10.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, nandyan po ngayon asr-001933 03:24:10.920 --> 03:24:12.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang kanilang chairperson, asr-001934 03:24:13.000 --> 03:24:15.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si Chairperson Gamaliel Cordoba. asr-001935 03:24:16.440 --> 03:24:16.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At, asr-001936 03:24:16.780 --> 03:24:18.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ko alam kung nandyan din asr-001937 03:24:18.620 --> 03:24:20.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang kanilang, isa pang asr-001938 03:24:20.760 --> 03:24:22.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: commissioner, si Commissioner Douglas asr-001939 03:24:22.740 --> 03:24:24.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Malilin. Ayun, asr-001940 03:24:24.600 --> 03:24:26.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayun po po la si Commissioner. asr-001941 03:24:27.640 --> 03:24:28.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, ang pangatlo nyo, asr-001942 03:24:28.920 --> 03:24:30.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun po ang gusto natin asr-001943 03:24:30.820 --> 03:24:32.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kumustahin. Ito po, of asr-001944 03:24:32.980 --> 03:24:34.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: course, none other than asr-001945 03:24:34.660 --> 03:24:36.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Commissioner Mario asr-001946 03:24:36.140 --> 03:24:37.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gonzales Lipana, asr-001947 03:24:38.760 --> 03:24:39.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: whose term asr-001948 03:24:39.720 --> 03:24:43.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is set asr-001949 03:24:43.200 --> 03:24:44.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to expire asr-001950 03:24:44.300 --> 03:24:46.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the 2nd of February asr-001951 03:24:46.740 --> 03:24:48.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027. Tama po ba? asr-001952 03:24:50.300 --> 03:24:52.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba yun? Mag-e-expire na yung term asr-001953 03:24:52.560 --> 03:24:54.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung pangatlong asr-001954 03:24:54.500 --> 03:24:55.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: commissioner na nabanggit ko. asr-001955 03:24:55.760 --> 03:24:55.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, asr-001956 03:24:55.900 --> 03:24:58.840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mr. Speaker, asr-001957 03:24:58.920 --> 03:25:02.420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Commissioner Lipana, asr-001958 03:25:03.180 --> 03:25:05.120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: term's expiration asr-001959 03:25:05.120 --> 03:25:06.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: is February 2, asr-001960 03:25:07.000 --> 03:25:08.020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 2027. asr-001961 03:25:08.400 --> 03:25:10.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. Okay. Well, asr-001962 03:25:11.100 --> 03:25:12.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Speaker, asr-001963 03:25:13.160 --> 03:25:14.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: last year, asr-001964 03:25:15.900 --> 03:25:17.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na naging asr-001965 03:25:17.000 --> 03:25:18.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: subject ng controversy asr-001966 03:25:18.840 --> 03:25:20.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si Commissioner Lipana, asr-001967 03:25:21.300 --> 03:25:23.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: especially at the height asr-001968 03:25:23.260 --> 03:25:25.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the flood control asr-001969 03:25:25.240 --> 03:25:26.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: corruption controversy, asr-001970 03:25:26.920 --> 03:25:27.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this year, asr-001971 03:25:27.600 --> 03:25:29.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil asr-001972 03:25:29.600 --> 03:25:33.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lumabas na ang kanyang asr-001973 03:25:33.600 --> 03:25:35.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: asawa, asr-001974 03:25:36.200 --> 03:25:36.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marie asr-001975 03:25:36.700 --> 03:25:38.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marie Lou Lipana, asr-001976 03:25:40.360 --> 03:25:40.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay asr-001977 03:25:40.660 --> 03:25:44.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay asr-001978 03:25:44.900 --> 03:25:47.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: contractor po. asr-001979 03:25:47.260 --> 03:25:49.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Contractor. Particularly, asr-001980 03:25:50.960 --> 03:25:51.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there is this asr-001981 03:25:51.760 --> 03:25:53.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: company known as asr-001982 03:25:53.640 --> 03:25:55.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Olympus Mining and Builders Group, asr-001983 03:25:55.660 --> 03:25:57.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Philippines Corporation, asr-001984 03:25:57.600 --> 03:25:59.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: formerly known as asr-001985 03:25:59.700 --> 03:26:03.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Olympus Builders and Mining Corporation, asr-001986 03:26:03.100 --> 03:26:05.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and according to records, asr-001987 03:26:05.600 --> 03:26:08.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: since 2022, asr-001988 03:26:08.100 --> 03:26:11.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan din po yung panahon asr-001989 03:26:11.360 --> 03:26:14.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na unang naupo si Commissioner Lipana, asr-001990 03:26:14.260 --> 03:26:17.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mula 2022 until 2025, asr-001991 03:26:17.840 --> 03:26:20.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay nakakuha po ito ng asr-001992 03:26:20.600 --> 03:26:23.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 27 public infrastructure projects worth, asr-001995 03:26:27.600 --> 03:26:29.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2.204 billion pesos. asr-001998 03:26:33.600 --> 03:26:35.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These include projects, asr-001999 03:26:35.600 --> 03:26:37.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: notably, asr-002000 03:26:37.600 --> 03:26:39.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: not just for buildings and facilities, asr-002002 03:26:41.600 --> 03:26:43.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: but also, asr-002003 03:26:43.600 --> 03:26:45.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a large number of projects asr-002005 03:26:47.600 --> 03:26:49.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for flood control and roads. asr-002006 03:26:49.600 --> 03:26:51.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Almost, asr-002007 03:26:51.600 --> 03:26:53.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: halos magkapanta yun sa 2.2 billion, asr-002008 03:26:53.600 --> 03:26:55.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1.01 billion for flood control and roads. asr-002011 03:26:59.500 --> 03:27:01.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1.13 billion for roads. asr-002013 03:27:03.500 --> 03:27:05.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Average cost of contract, asr-002014 03:27:05.500 --> 03:27:07.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 81 million. asr-002015 03:27:07.500 --> 03:27:09.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Malalaking kontrata po. asr-002016 03:27:09.500 --> 03:27:11.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At, ang kumpanya pong ito, asr-002018 03:27:13.500 --> 03:27:15.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pangunahing mga proyekto asr-002020 03:27:17.500 --> 03:27:19.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay pangunahing pinatupad asr-002021 03:27:19.500 --> 03:27:21.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Bulacan. asr-002022 03:27:21.500 --> 03:27:23.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, asr-002023 03:27:23.500 --> 03:27:25.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the, asr-002024 03:27:25.500 --> 03:27:27.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particularly, asr-002025 03:27:27.500 --> 03:27:29.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bulacan 1st District Engineering Office, asr-002026 03:27:29.500 --> 03:27:31.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bulacan 2nd and Bulacan 3rd, asr-002027 03:27:31.500 --> 03:27:33.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as well as in Region 3, asr-002029 03:27:35.500 --> 03:27:37.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and Metro Manila. asr-002030 03:27:37.500 --> 03:27:39.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, may mga proyekto din po. asr-002031 03:27:39.500 --> 03:27:41.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let us of course note, asr-002033 03:27:43.500 --> 03:27:45.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bulacan 1st District Engineering Office, asr-002034 03:27:45.500 --> 03:27:47.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayan yung pinanggalingan ni asr-002037 03:27:51.500 --> 03:27:53.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Henry Alcantara. asr-002038 03:27:53.500 --> 03:27:55.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ngayon involved sa maraming mga ghost projects. asr-002039 03:27:55.500 --> 03:27:57.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let me also note, asr-002040 03:27:57.500 --> 03:27:59.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that COA asr-002041 03:27:59.500 --> 03:28:01.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: last year asr-002042 03:28:01.500 --> 03:28:03.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: last year asr-002043 03:28:03.500 --> 03:28:05.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: was asr-002044 03:28:05.500 --> 03:28:07.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: took it upon or undertook asr-002045 03:28:07.500 --> 03:28:09.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to come out with asr-002046 03:28:09.500 --> 03:28:11.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: audit reports. asr-002047 03:28:11.500 --> 03:28:13.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mabilisan po gumawa ng asr-002048 03:28:13.500 --> 03:28:15.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: audit ng mga flood control projects asr-002049 03:28:15.500 --> 03:28:17.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Bulacan. At nakakuha po tayo asr-002050 03:28:17.500 --> 03:28:19.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng kopya ng mga proyektong yun, asr-002051 03:28:19.500 --> 03:28:21.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kinukumpirma nga asr-002052 03:28:21.500 --> 03:28:23.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na asr-002053 03:28:23.500 --> 03:28:25.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maraming mga proyekto, asr-002054 03:28:25.500 --> 03:28:27.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ghost, or asr-002055 03:28:27.500 --> 03:28:29.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with asr-002056 03:28:29.500 --> 03:28:31.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: serious issues. asr-002057 03:28:31.500 --> 03:28:33.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga finlag po ito asr-002058 03:28:33.500 --> 03:28:35.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng COA. Okay. asr-002059 03:28:35.500 --> 03:28:37.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya po, asr-002060 03:28:37.500 --> 03:28:39.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: since last year, asr-002061 03:28:39.500 --> 03:28:41.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may mga asr-002062 03:28:41.500 --> 03:28:43.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: questions asr-002063 03:28:43.500 --> 03:28:45.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: regarding the clear conflict of interest. asr-002065 03:28:47.500 --> 03:28:49.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That we have a Commissioner of COA asr-002066 03:28:49.500 --> 03:28:51.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: whose asr-002067 03:28:51.500 --> 03:28:53.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: um, asr-002068 03:28:53.500 --> 03:28:55.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: spouse asr-002069 03:28:55.500 --> 03:28:57.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is known to be a asr-002070 03:28:57.500 --> 03:28:59.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, contractor for asr-002071 03:28:59.500 --> 03:29:01.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: flood control projects. Kaya matagal na pong asr-002072 03:29:01.500 --> 03:29:03.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, asr-002073 03:29:03.500 --> 03:29:05.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may mga panawagan actually na mag-resign asr-002074 03:29:05.500 --> 03:29:07.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si Commissioner asr-002075 03:29:07.500 --> 03:29:09.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lipana. Para po, asr-002076 03:29:09.500 --> 03:29:11.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi madamay ang asr-002077 03:29:11.500 --> 03:29:13.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kredibilidad ng institution, asr-002078 03:29:13.500 --> 03:29:15.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: institution asr-002079 03:29:15.500 --> 03:29:17.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Commission on Audit. Lalo pa't asr-002080 03:29:17.500 --> 03:29:19.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dapat kalaga ng papel ng COA asr-002081 03:29:19.500 --> 03:29:21.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa asr-002082 03:29:21.500 --> 03:29:23.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, you know, bilang asr-002083 03:29:23.500 --> 03:29:25.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: huling asr-002084 03:29:25.500 --> 03:29:27.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: line of defense, ika nga, asr-002085 03:29:27.500 --> 03:29:29.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kontra sa corruption. asr-002086 03:29:29.500 --> 03:29:31.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Ano po, asr-002087 03:29:31.500 --> 03:29:33.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mula nung nakaraang taon, asr-002088 03:29:33.500 --> 03:29:35.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ang status asr-002089 03:29:35.500 --> 03:29:37.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nitong si Commissioner asr-002090 03:29:37.500 --> 03:29:39.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lipana? asr-002091 03:29:41.500 --> 03:29:43.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, asr-002092 03:29:43.500 --> 03:29:45.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: dalawa po yung asr-002093 03:29:45.500 --> 03:29:47.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: katanungan kung tama po ako. asr-002094 03:29:47.500 --> 03:29:49.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Una, asr-002095 03:29:49.500 --> 03:29:51.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: is about asr-002096 03:29:51.500 --> 03:29:53.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: the status of Commissioner Lipana. asr-002097 03:29:53.500 --> 03:29:55.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, asr-002098 03:29:55.500 --> 03:29:57.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang pangalawa, ah, asr-002099 03:29:57.500 --> 03:29:59.500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: about sa kontrata. asr-002100 03:30:00.000 --> 03:30:01.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng kanyang asawa asr-002101 03:30:01.440 --> 03:30:03.740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa goberno. Tama po? asr-002102 03:30:03.940 --> 03:30:04.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, asr-002102-split-2 03:30:04.520 --> 03:30:04.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: tama po. asr-002103 03:30:06.140 --> 03:30:06.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Sa asr-002104 03:30:06.340 --> 03:30:09.540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: unang sagot po, sa asr-002105 03:30:09.540 --> 03:30:11.820 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: status po ni Commissioner asr-002106 03:30:11.820 --> 03:30:12.940 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Lipana, asr-002107 03:30:14.740 --> 03:30:15.900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: siya po ngayon ay asr-002108 03:30:15.900 --> 03:30:16.860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: naka asr-002109 03:30:16.860 --> 03:30:19.740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sick leave, on asr-002110 03:30:19.740 --> 03:30:20.280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: leave. asr-002111 03:30:21.580 --> 03:30:23.220 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Dahil po sa asr-002112 03:30:23.220 --> 03:30:25.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: karamdaman niya, mayroon po siyang asr-002113 03:30:25.660 --> 03:30:26.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kanser. asr-002114 03:30:27.780 --> 03:30:29.540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yun naman sa asr-002115 03:30:29.540 --> 03:30:32.600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kontrata asr-002116 03:30:32.600 --> 03:30:34.580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: involving asr-002117 03:30:34.580 --> 03:30:36.360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: asawa niya, asr-002118 03:30:37.520 --> 03:30:37.960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mayroon na po asr-002119 03:30:37.960 --> 03:30:39.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ginawang asr-002120 03:30:39.300 --> 03:30:42.100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pagsisiyasat asr-002121 03:30:42.100 --> 03:30:42.960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang COA. asr-002122 03:30:44.120 --> 03:30:45.680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: In fact, mayroon na po ang notice asr-002123 03:30:45.680 --> 03:30:47.280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: of disallowance asr-002124 03:30:47.280 --> 03:30:49.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa yung asr-002125 03:30:49.720 --> 03:30:51.780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: referring to the firm asr-002126 03:30:51.780 --> 03:30:53.680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or construction firm of asr-002127 03:30:53.680 --> 03:30:55.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mrs. Lipana. asr-002128 03:30:56.920 --> 03:30:58.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, nag-issue po asr-002129 03:30:58.000 --> 03:30:59.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng notice of disallowance asr-002130 03:30:59.540 --> 03:31:02.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: what is the status of the notice asr-002131 03:31:02.140 --> 03:31:03.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of disallowance? asr-002132 03:31:03.400 --> 03:31:04.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Final na po ba yan? asr-002133 03:31:04.920 --> 03:31:05.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Or is it still asr-002134 03:31:05.780 --> 03:31:09.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at what stage? Ano na pong stage asr-002135 03:31:09.100 --> 03:31:11.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nun nung notice of disallowance? asr-002136 03:31:12.700 --> 03:31:13.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At the asr-002137 03:31:13.300 --> 03:31:15.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na-issue na po ba ito asr-002138 03:31:15.840 --> 03:31:18.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng final na po ba ito asr-002139 03:31:18.260 --> 03:31:19.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa level ng COA? asr-002140 03:31:22.700 --> 03:31:23.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang status? asr-002141 03:31:26.220 --> 03:31:27.940 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Nung pag-issue po ng notice asr-002142 03:31:27.940 --> 03:31:28.880 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: of disallowance, asr-002143 03:31:28.880 --> 03:31:29.420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ngayon, asr-002144 03:31:29.540 --> 03:31:29.980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa ngayon, asr-002145 03:31:30.860 --> 03:31:32.280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: on appeal na po sa asr-002146 03:31:32.280 --> 03:31:34.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Cluster 7. asr-002147 03:31:35.120 --> 03:31:35.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Okay. asr-002148 03:31:40.660 --> 03:31:41.860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Cluster 7 is asr-002149 03:31:41.860 --> 03:31:43.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: director doon, asr-002150 03:31:43.820 --> 03:31:45.480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: referring to asr-002151 03:31:45.480 --> 03:31:50.580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: public works, asr-002152 03:31:50.820 --> 03:31:51.580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: transportation, asr-002153 03:31:52.140 --> 03:31:53.020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and energy. asr-002154 03:31:53.580 --> 03:31:54.920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kasali po siya sa asr-002155 03:31:54.920 --> 03:31:56.520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Cluster 7 na yan, asr-002156 03:31:56.520 --> 03:31:58.080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung public works. asr-002157 03:31:58.500 --> 03:31:59.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, asr-002158 03:31:59.540 --> 03:32:01.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may na-issue na na-notice asr-002159 03:32:01.980 --> 03:32:03.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero hindi pa po asr-002160 03:32:03.420 --> 03:32:04.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: umaabot sa asr-002161 03:32:04.660 --> 03:32:07.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kumbaga sa en banc mismo, asr-002162 03:32:07.980 --> 03:32:08.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa komisyon mismo? asr-002163 03:32:09.900 --> 03:32:11.100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Wala pa po. asr-002164 03:32:11.640 --> 03:32:13.700 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Nasa level po pa ng asr-002165 03:32:13.700 --> 03:32:15.360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: director ng asr-002166 03:32:15.360 --> 03:32:16.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Cluster 7. asr-002167 03:32:16.360 --> 03:32:18.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. And, asr-002168 03:32:18.980 --> 03:32:21.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi nyo nga, well, ito nga asr-002169 03:32:21.480 --> 03:32:22.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang problema. asr-002170 03:32:23.160 --> 03:32:25.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Aabot dito sa komisyon, isa sa mga asr-002171 03:32:25.480 --> 03:32:27.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: komisyoner ay asawa. asr-002172 03:32:27.820 --> 03:32:28.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? asr-002173 03:32:29.540 --> 03:32:30.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang sabi nyo rin, asr-002174 03:32:31.460 --> 03:32:33.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay on-leave dahil may sakit asr-002175 03:32:33.620 --> 03:32:36.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si Komisyoner Lipana. asr-002176 03:32:36.400 --> 03:32:37.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, last year pa po, asr-002177 03:32:37.860 --> 03:32:40.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: during the budget deliberations last year, asr-002178 03:32:40.720 --> 03:32:42.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay kinukumusta na natin asr-002179 03:32:42.480 --> 03:32:44.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at gusto rin sana nating asr-002180 03:32:44.380 --> 03:32:45.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: matanong directly, asr-002181 03:32:46.400 --> 03:32:48.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lalo na at the budget briefing level asr-002182 03:32:48.400 --> 03:32:50.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Komisyoner Lipana, pero even at the time asr-002183 03:32:50.680 --> 03:32:51.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinabi na asr-002184 03:32:51.480 --> 03:32:53.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on sick leave na siya. asr-002185 03:32:54.280 --> 03:32:56.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Last year pa, gano'ng katagal na pong asr-002186 03:32:56.680 --> 03:32:58.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naka-sick leave itong si asr-002187 03:32:58.700 --> 03:32:59.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Komisyoner? asr-002188 03:32:59.540 --> 03:33:02.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Komisyoner Lipana, at hanggang asr-002189 03:33:02.200 --> 03:33:03.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kailan pa po ang kanyang asr-002190 03:33:03.540 --> 03:33:04.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sick leave? asr-002191 03:33:10.420 --> 03:33:11.440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung pong asr-002192 03:33:11.440 --> 03:33:13.480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pag-sick leave ni asr-002193 03:33:13.480 --> 03:33:14.680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Komisyoner Lipana, asr-002194 03:33:15.720 --> 03:33:19.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: halos buwan-buwan po asr-002195 03:33:19.300 --> 03:33:21.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pumupunta siya sana sa labas asr-002196 03:33:21.240 --> 03:33:22.280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: para mag asr-002197 03:33:22.280 --> 03:33:25.780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pa-examine, no, sa kanyang asr-002198 03:33:25.780 --> 03:33:27.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kalagayan, karamdaman. asr-002199 03:33:28.300 --> 03:33:29.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: After that, asr-002200 03:33:29.180 --> 03:33:31.260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: balik na naman, report for asr-002201 03:33:31.260 --> 03:33:33.000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: duty, alis na naman, asr-002202 03:33:33.120 --> 03:33:35.240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: after a month, punta na asr-002203 03:33:35.240 --> 03:33:37.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mga Singapore para magpagamot. asr-002204 03:33:38.400 --> 03:33:39.080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yun po ang status. asr-002205 03:33:39.820 --> 03:33:40.660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: On and off yung asr-002206 03:33:40.660 --> 03:33:41.400 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ano niya. asr-002206-split-2 03:33:41.400 --> 03:33:42.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, on and off po. asr-002207 03:33:42.860 --> 03:33:44.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ibig sabihin, nagsisik leave, asr-002208 03:33:45.340 --> 03:33:46.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos bumabalik, asr-002209 03:33:47.040 --> 03:33:49.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagre-report for duty, tapos pag-a-apply na naman asr-002210 03:33:49.180 --> 03:33:50.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for leave. Ganun po ba? asr-002211 03:33:52.980 --> 03:33:55.180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: His condition warrants it, asr-002212 03:33:55.280 --> 03:33:56.840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung karamdaman niya. Kasi, asr-002213 03:33:56.840 --> 03:33:57.420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sabi nga, asr-002214 03:33:57.420 --> 03:33:59.780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pa-terminal na yung asr-002215 03:33:59.780 --> 03:34:01.040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: terminal cancer, asr-002216 03:34:01.220 --> 03:34:02.800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: final stage of cancer. asr-002217 03:34:02.900 --> 03:34:04.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, naintindihan po natin. asr-002218 03:34:04.880 --> 03:34:07.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang clarification nyo po, asr-002219 03:34:07.560 --> 03:34:09.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi continuous yung kanyang asr-002220 03:34:09.420 --> 03:34:10.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sick leave. asr-002221 03:34:11.160 --> 03:34:12.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung hindi periodically asr-002222 03:34:12.260 --> 03:34:17.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: renewed asr-002223 03:34:17.280 --> 03:34:19.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or applied for, parang asr-002224 03:34:19.320 --> 03:34:20.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ganun. Tama po ba? asr-002225 03:34:21.080 --> 03:34:21.730 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes po. asr-002225-split-2 03:34:21.730 --> 03:34:22.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Cumulatively, asr-002226 03:34:24.040 --> 03:34:25.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede po bang masabi asr-002227 03:34:25.140 --> 03:34:26.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng commission, asr-002228 03:34:27.420 --> 03:34:28.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: through the sponsor, asr-002229 03:34:29.180 --> 03:34:31.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gaano katagal na pong naka-sick leave asr-002230 03:34:31.280 --> 03:34:33.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mula, kahit, mula, asr-002231 03:34:33.580 --> 03:34:35.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mula, mula, simula. Kailan siya asr-002232 03:34:35.320 --> 03:34:36.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagsimulang mag-sick leave? asr-002233 03:34:38.000 --> 03:34:38.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hanggang asr-002234 03:34:38.600 --> 03:34:41.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa kasalukuyang panahon. asr-002235 03:34:44.060 --> 03:34:45.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For the record po. asr-002266 03:35:27.420 --> 03:35:44.600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mr. Speaker, iyong katanungan po kung cumulatively, ang nangyari po ay buwan-buwan, every month, nag-apply siya ng tatlong araw na leave. asr-002267 03:35:44.600 --> 03:36:05.380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, saka balik na naman, trabaho. To be exact, magbigay na lang po kami ng data. Ilan na talaga, ilang buwan na yung ano niya, since 2025 up to the present. asr-002268 03:36:05.620 --> 03:36:13.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, please. So, in writing po, kung pwede, para lang malaman natin. So, hindi naman pala continuous ito. asr-002269 03:36:13.340 --> 03:36:26.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And just to clarify, yung mga commissioner po ba ng COA, are they covered by the same guidelines on sick leave as other employees of government? asr-002270 03:36:26.320 --> 03:36:34.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba, may mga limitasyon lang yan, di ba? Hindi only ang sick leave, tama po ba? Okay. So, hindi po. asr-002271 03:36:35.160 --> 03:36:37.340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Cover lang po lahat, pareha lang po ang… asr-002272 03:36:37.340 --> 03:36:41.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pareho lang sa mga empleyado, therefore, may hangganan din po, no? asr-002273 03:36:41.540 --> 03:36:41.720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes. asr-002274 03:36:42.220 --> 03:36:42.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-002275 03:36:43.340 --> 03:37:01.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sige, intayin na lang po natin. Pero ito na po ang tanong. Ibig po sabihin, panapanahon lang. So, tuloy pa rin po, for the most part, the COA can say na nagagampanan pa rin ni Commissioner Lipana ang kanyang tungkulin. asr-002276 03:37:03.520 --> 03:37:12.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is he still able to discharge his duties as COA Commissioner despite his health condition? asr-002277 03:37:13.340 --> 03:37:23.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That requires him to avail of sick leave periodically, every month, apparently. Nagagampanan pa rin po ba niya, ang kanyang mga tungkulin bilang Commissioner? asr-002278 03:37:27.720 --> 03:37:31.260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Nagagampanan po naman ni Commissioner Lipana yung trabaho niya. asr-002279 03:37:31.680 --> 03:37:39.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagagampanan po. So, in other words, the Commission en banc, yung tatlong miyembro, ay fully functioning. asr-002280 03:37:40.600 --> 03:37:42.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig sabihin, kung nangangailangan ng… asr-002281 03:37:43.340 --> 03:37:58.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Decision, no? Merong mga resolution o merong mga kaso. Halimbawa, itong Notice of Disallowance, ay available po yung tatlong Commissioner at yung tatlong nagpapasya. Ganun pa rin po? asr-002282 03:38:00.760 --> 03:38:13.220 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kahit po wala si Commissioner Lipana, ang Commission itself, nagagampanan namin nila yung remaining dalawang Commissioner, they are still doing their… they can do their job. asr-002283 03:38:13.340 --> 03:38:14.860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Even without Commissioner Lipana. asr-002284 03:38:14.880 --> 03:38:24.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, they can do their jobs. I have no doubt, they can do their jobs. Pero ang tanong ko lang po, hindi po ba may mga pagkakataon na kailangan yung buong Commission? O sapat na yung dalawa? asr-002285 03:38:26.800 --> 03:38:35.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paano halimbawa, kung merong opinion na magkaiba yung dalawa, how will that be settled? Wala bang ganun? asr-002286 03:38:37.300 --> 03:38:42.420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So far naman po, sapat na po yung… asr-002287 03:38:43.340 --> 03:38:49.640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Dalawa. So far, no? Wala naman silang mga pagtunggali between their opinions. asr-002288 03:38:49.640 --> 03:39:03.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so far wala. And para malinawan lang po, pwede po ba mag-issue ng mga resolution, decision, and so on, ang en banc na dalawa lang sa tatlo ang nakapirma? Pwede na yun? asr-002289 03:39:04.380 --> 03:39:04.920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pwede po. asr-002290 03:39:05.380 --> 03:39:09.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede? Dahil ang requirement, basta majority, ganun po ba? asr-002291 03:39:10.260 --> 03:39:11.040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Majority po. asr-002292 03:39:11.040 --> 03:39:12.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, okay. Alright. asr-002293 03:39:13.340 --> 03:39:28.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ngayon, kung sakaling umabot po sa, sabi nyo, merong notice of disallowance involving the wife of Commissioner Lipana na nasa lower level pa, no? asr-002294 03:39:28.140 --> 03:39:30.020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Cluster 7 po. Cluster 7. asr-002295 03:39:30.120 --> 03:39:35.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Cluster 7. Eventually, tama po, aabot yan sa en banc. Tama po ba? asr-002296 03:39:36.260 --> 03:39:37.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po mangyayari? asr-002297 03:39:38.180 --> 03:39:42.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Will the Commissioner Lipana be involved in… asr-002298 03:39:43.340 --> 03:39:46.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Be decision-making on that resolution? asr-002299 03:39:49.020 --> 03:40:01.060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kung aabot sa Commission en banc level, mag-inhibit si Commissioner Lipana. asr-002300 03:40:01.060 --> 03:40:10.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Okay, Mr. Speaker, yun po ang pangunahing concern natin. asr-002301 03:40:10.900 --> 03:40:12.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marami pong mga… asr-002302 03:40:13.340 --> 03:40:20.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakatutok sa Commission on Appointments ngayon at ang pagtingin nga ay may cloud. asr-002303 03:40:22.300 --> 03:40:40.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Merong question sa credibility ng Commission dahil ang isa sa kanilang, isa sa tatlong Commissioner ay, yun nga, asawa ng isang contractor na sabi na rin ng COA na issuean pa ng notice of disallowance asr-002304 03:40:40.700 --> 03:40:46.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaugnay sa flood control or DPWH contracts, no? asr-002305 03:40:46.420 --> 03:41:10.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya po, sinikap nating linawin ano ba talaga ang status nitong si Commissioner Lipana at ngayon malinaw na nagpapatuloy pa rin siya sa kanyang panunungkulan panapanahong nag-a-avail ng sick leave at, well, asr-002306 03:41:10.380 --> 03:41:19.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: merong pahayag dito na kung sakaling may conflict of interest, magkakaroon ng conflict of interest, mag-inhibit ang Commissioner. asr-002307 03:41:19.980 --> 03:41:24.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hanggang doon na lang po siguro muna, Mr. Speaker. Maraming salamat po, ginuong sponsor. asr-002308 03:41:25.620 --> 03:41:28.740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Thank you, Representative. Salamat po. asr-002309 03:41:29.980 --> 03:41:31.640 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader. asr-002311 03:41:34.700 --> 03:41:39.640 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Percy Zendanya of the Akbayan Partylist to asr-002312 03:41:40.380 --> 03:41:42.740 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: interpellate on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. asr-002313 03:41:43.300 --> 03:41:45.620 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: The Honorable Zendanya is recognized. Please proceed. asr-002314 03:41:46.200 --> 03:41:50.340 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon to the COA family. asr-002315 03:41:50.980 --> 03:41:57.940 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I will not be propounding questions as I have exhaustively discussed the points that I need to share regarding the budget of the Commission on Audit. asr-002316 03:41:57.940 --> 03:42:10.320 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I'd just like to reiterate my extreme concern on the lowering of the budget on capital outlay for the COA as this is a critical part in their efforts to digitize and to asr-002318 03:42:10.380 --> 03:42:21.000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: computerize the systems within this critical government agency. And I hope that at a certain point, we'll be able to restore the necessary capital outlay for the COA. asr-002319 03:42:21.380 --> 03:42:29.580 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: There being no member of the minority that wishes to interpolate the Commission on Audit's budget, I move to terminate consideration of the same. asr-002320 03:42:29.840 --> 03:42:30.980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I so move, Mr. Speaker. asr-002321 03:42:31.380 --> 03:42:32.800 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader. asr-002322 03:42:34.520 --> 03:42:35.300 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Thank you. asr-002324 03:42:35.860 --> 03:42:40.300 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period asr-002325 03:42:40.380 --> 03:42:43.560 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: of interpellations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. asr-002326 03:42:44.060 --> 03:42:50.660 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpolations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. Is there any objections? asr-002327 03:42:51.560 --> 03:42:57.020 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: The Chair hears none. The interpolations on the proposed budget on the Commission on Audit is terminated. asr-002328 03:42:59.740 --> 03:43:01.300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker. asr-002329 03:43:02.120 --> 03:43:03.200 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. asr-002330 03:43:05.480 --> 03:43:06.240 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. asr-002331 03:43:06.640 --> 03:43:07.500 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Motion to suspend. asr-002332 03:43:08.240 --> 03:43:08.940 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Session suspended. asr-002346 03:44:58.160 --> 03:45:00.600 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Session resumed. Majority Leader. asr-002347 03:45:00.600 --> 03:45:02.100 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move asr-002348 03:45:02.100 --> 03:45:03.920 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: to consider the proposed budget asr-002349 03:45:03.920 --> 03:45:05.960 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: of the Commission on Elections. asr-002350 03:45:06.340 --> 03:45:08.140 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Any objection? The Chair hears none. asr-002351 03:45:08.440 --> 03:45:09.140 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Motion is approved. asr-002352 03:45:09.920 --> 03:45:10.540 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. asr-002353 03:45:11.980 --> 03:45:14.220 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge asr-002354 03:45:14.220 --> 03:45:16.360 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: the presence of the heads and officials asr-002355 03:45:16.360 --> 03:45:18.420 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: of the Commission on Elections. asr-002356 03:45:18.420 --> 03:45:20.400 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: They are Chairperson asr-002357 03:45:20.400 --> 03:45:22.660 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: George Irwin asr-002358 03:45:22.660 --> 03:45:24.100 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Garcia, Commissioner asr-002359 03:45:24.100 --> 03:45:26.680 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Ernesto Maceda Jr., asr-002360 03:45:26.680 --> 03:45:28.440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Commissioner Nelson Celis, asr-002361 03:45:28.440 --> 03:45:30.100 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Commissioner Maria asr-002362 03:45:30.100 --> 03:45:32.000 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Norina Tangaro asr-002363 03:45:32.000 --> 03:45:34.480 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Casingal, and Executive Director asr-002364 03:45:34.480 --> 03:45:35.660 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Teopisto asr-002365 03:45:35.660 --> 03:45:37.120 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Elnas Jr. asr-002366 03:45:38.040 --> 03:45:40.200 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: We acknowledge the presence of the heads and asr-002367 03:45:40.200 --> 03:45:42.240 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: officials of the Commission on Elections, headed asr-002368 03:45:42.240 --> 03:45:44.300 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: by Chairperson George Irwin asr-002369 03:45:44.300 --> 03:45:46.320 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Garcia. Welcome to the House of asr-002370 03:45:46.320 --> 03:45:48.360 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representatives. Majority asr-002371 03:45:48.360 --> 03:45:49.400 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Leader. asr-002371-split-2 03:45:49.400 --> 03:45:50.020 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, asr-002372 03:45:50.900 --> 03:45:52.220 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: I move to recognize asr-002373 03:45:52.220 --> 03:45:54.360 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Representative Mike Tan of the asr-002374 03:45:54.360 --> 03:45:55.620 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: 4th District of Quezon, asr-002375 03:45:56.240 --> 03:45:58.080 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Vice Chairperson of the Committee on asr-002376 03:45:58.440 --> 03:46:00.440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Appropriations, to answer questions asr-002377 03:46:00.440 --> 03:46:02.380 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: on the proposed budget of the Commission asr-002378 03:46:02.380 --> 03:46:03.560 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: on Elections. asr-002378-split-2 03:46:03.560 --> 03:46:04.380 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Mike asr-002379 03:46:04.380 --> 03:46:06.200 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Tan is recognized. Please proceed. asr-002380 03:46:07.300 --> 03:46:08.140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, asr-002381 03:46:08.400 --> 03:46:08.940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker. asr-002382 03:46:09.980 --> 03:46:11.800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Magandang tanghali na po sa ating lahat. asr-002383 03:46:12.500 --> 03:46:14.500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Distinguished colleagues, it is my privilege asr-002384 03:46:14.500 --> 03:46:16.300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: to sponsor the proposed fiscal asr-002385 03:46:16.300 --> 03:46:18.360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: year 2027 budget asr-002386 03:46:18.360 --> 03:46:20.160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of the Commission on Elections. asr-002387 03:46:20.720 --> 03:46:22.540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: A constitutional commission entrusted asr-002388 03:46:22.540 --> 03:46:24.140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with the vital responsibility asr-002389 03:46:24.140 --> 03:46:26.540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of safeguarding asr-002390 03:46:26.540 --> 03:46:28.100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the integrity of our electoral process. asr-002391 03:46:28.440 --> 03:46:30.480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And ensuring the orderly, asr-002392 03:46:30.640 --> 03:46:32.320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: credible, and efficient conduct asr-002393 03:46:32.320 --> 03:46:34.380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of elections. For fiscal asr-002394 03:46:34.380 --> 03:46:36.680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: year 2027, the Commission is proposing asr-002395 03:46:36.680 --> 03:46:37.900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: a total budget of asr-002396 03:46:37.900 --> 03:46:40.100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 29.5 billion pesos, asr-002397 03:46:40.720 --> 03:46:42.720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: inclusive of automatic asr-002398 03:46:42.720 --> 03:46:43.640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: appropriations. asr-002399 03:46:44.380 --> 03:46:45.860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: It represents an increase of asr-002400 03:46:45.860 --> 03:46:48.300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 9.31 billion pesos, asr-002401 03:46:48.440 --> 03:46:50.540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: or 46 percent, from the asr-002402 03:46:50.540 --> 03:46:52.280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: fiscal year 2026 asr-002403 03:46:52.280 --> 03:46:54.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: GAA of 20.2 asr-002404 03:46:54.440 --> 03:46:55.200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: billion pesos. asr-002405 03:46:55.660 --> 03:46:57.280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: This increase reflects asr-002406 03:46:57.280 --> 03:46:58.280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the need to strengthen, asr-002407 03:46:58.440 --> 03:47:00.360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the Commission's operational capacity asr-002408 03:47:00.360 --> 03:47:01.980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: as it undertakes asr-002409 03:47:01.980 --> 03:47:04.100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: preparations for the upcoming asr-002410 03:47:04.100 --> 03:47:06.540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 2028 national and local elections. asr-002411 03:47:07.240 --> 03:47:08.400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Of the proposed asr-002412 03:47:08.400 --> 03:47:10.680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: allocation, 23.92 billion pesos asr-002413 03:47:10.680 --> 03:47:12.240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is earmarked for preparatory asr-002414 03:47:12.240 --> 03:47:14.780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: national and local elections activities, asr-002415 03:47:15.220 --> 03:47:16.320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: allowing Comelec to asr-002416 03:47:16.320 --> 03:47:18.400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: undertake procurement, systems preparation, asr-002417 03:47:19.060 --> 03:47:20.320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: voter-related activities, asr-002418 03:47:20.520 --> 03:47:22.520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and other essential requirements asr-002419 03:47:22.520 --> 03:47:24.460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: well ahead of the 2028 elections. asr-002420 03:47:24.900 --> 03:47:26.480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As we deliberate on this asr-002421 03:47:26.480 --> 03:47:28.420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: budget, we must ensure that these resources, asr-002422 03:47:28.440 --> 03:47:30.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: are utilized efficiently, asr-002423 03:47:30.440 --> 03:47:32.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: transparently, and in accordance asr-002424 03:47:32.440 --> 03:47:34.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with the Commission's constitutional asr-002425 03:47:34.440 --> 03:47:36.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mandate and applicable laws. asr-002426 03:47:36.440 --> 03:47:38.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: With this, I respectfully asr-002427 03:47:38.440 --> 03:47:40.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: present the proposed asr-002428 03:47:40.440 --> 03:47:42.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: fiscal year 2027 budget asr-002429 03:47:42.440 --> 03:47:44.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of the Commission on Elections asr-002430 03:47:44.440 --> 03:47:46.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: for the consideration of this honorable asr-002431 03:47:46.440 --> 03:47:48.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Chamber. Thank you, Mr. asr-002432 03:47:48.440 --> 03:47:50.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Speaker. This representation is asr-002433 03:47:50.440 --> 03:47:52.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: now ready to answer questions from our colleagues. asr-002434 03:47:53.120 --> 03:47:54.440 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader? asr-002435 03:47:54.440 --> 03:47:56.440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move asr-002436 03:47:56.440 --> 03:47:58.440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: to recognize Representative asr-002437 03:47:58.440 --> 03:48:00.440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Edgar R. Erice asr-002438 03:48:00.440 --> 03:48:02.440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: of the 2nd District of Caloocan asr-002439 03:48:02.440 --> 03:48:04.440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: City to interpolate the sponsor asr-002440 03:48:04.440 --> 03:48:06.440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: in the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections. asr-002441 03:48:06.440 --> 03:48:08.440 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Edgar asr-002442 03:48:08.440 --> 03:48:10.440 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Erice is recognized. Please proceed. asr-002443 03:48:10.440 --> 03:48:12.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Salamat po, Mr. Speaker. Salamat asr-002444 03:48:12.440 --> 03:48:14.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa ating Majority Leader asr-002445 03:48:14.440 --> 03:48:16.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at gayon po sa ating asr-002446 03:48:16.440 --> 03:48:18.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sponsor. asr-002447 03:48:18.440 --> 03:48:20.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Gandang hapon po. asr-002448 03:48:22.440 --> 03:48:24.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Una po ay aking asr-002449 03:48:24.440 --> 03:48:26.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: binabati ang Commission on Elections asr-002450 03:48:26.440 --> 03:48:28.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa napakamatiwasay, asr-002451 03:48:28.440 --> 03:48:30.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: maayos na halalan asr-002452 03:48:30.440 --> 03:48:32.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa BARMM nitong asr-002453 03:48:32.440 --> 03:48:34.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: nakaraang asr-002454 03:48:34.440 --> 03:48:36.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: linggo. asr-002455 03:48:36.440 --> 03:48:38.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At nais ko po sanang itanong asr-002456 03:48:38.440 --> 03:48:40.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kung meron na po silang asr-002457 03:48:40.440 --> 03:48:42.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: idea anong variance asr-002458 03:48:42.440 --> 03:48:44.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: in terms of accuracy asr-002459 03:48:44.440 --> 03:48:46.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng mga ginamit nilang asr-002460 03:48:46.440 --> 03:48:48.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: voting machines asr-002461 03:48:48.440 --> 03:48:50.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at kaninong asr-002462 03:48:50.440 --> 03:48:52.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: voting machines yung nagamit asr-002463 03:48:52.440 --> 03:48:54.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: po doon. asr-002464 03:48:59.270 --> 03:49:00.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now po, asr-002465 03:49:00.440 --> 03:49:02.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, asr-002466 03:49:02.440 --> 03:49:04.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ongoing po yung random manual asr-002467 03:49:04.440 --> 03:49:06.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: audit, but as per information po, asr-002468 03:49:06.440 --> 03:49:08.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung atin pong variance asr-002469 03:49:08.440 --> 03:49:10.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is at 0% pa rin po. asr-002470 03:49:10.440 --> 03:49:12.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 0% ang variance. asr-002471 03:49:12.440 --> 03:49:14.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So ibig sabihin accurate? asr-002472 03:49:14.440 --> 03:49:16.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Accurate po, ah asr-002473 03:49:16.440 --> 03:49:18.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker and distinguished colleague. asr-002474 03:49:18.440 --> 03:49:20.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ilang voting machines po ang ginamit asr-002475 03:49:20.440 --> 03:49:22.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para sa BARMM asr-002476 03:49:24.440 --> 03:49:26.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: elections? asr-002477 03:49:30.440 --> 03:49:32.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 7,000 machines po asr-002478 03:49:32.440 --> 03:49:34.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang ginamit po para sa atin pong asr-002479 03:49:34.440 --> 03:49:35.960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: BARMM elections. asr-002480 03:49:35.960 --> 03:49:38.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At magkano po? Ito po ay lease contract. asr-002481 03:49:38.440 --> 03:49:40.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Magkano po yung lease contract nito? asr-002484 03:49:58.440 --> 03:50:00.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Amounting to 1.2 billion pesos po, asr-002485 03:50:00.440 --> 03:50:04.350 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague. asr-002487 03:50:04.440 --> 03:50:06.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 1.2 billion for 7,000 machines, asr-002488 03:50:06.440 --> 03:50:08.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: which includes asr-002489 03:50:08.440 --> 03:50:10.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: what services po? asr-002490 03:50:18.440 --> 03:50:20.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So it consists of the asr-002491 03:50:20.440 --> 03:50:22.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ballot boxes, yung asr-002492 03:50:22.440 --> 03:50:24.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: atin pong CCS, yung asr-002493 03:50:24.440 --> 03:50:26.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: consolidation and counting asr-002494 03:50:26.440 --> 03:50:28.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: system po ng ating machines, asr-002495 03:50:28.440 --> 03:50:30.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and then yung other asr-002496 03:50:30.440 --> 03:50:32.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: peripherals po nung ating asr-002497 03:50:32.440 --> 03:50:34.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga gagamitin asr-002498 03:50:34.440 --> 03:50:36.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po sa elections, asr-002499 03:50:36.440 --> 03:50:38.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: lalo na po yung mga pens asr-002500 03:50:38.440 --> 03:50:40.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and yung asr-002501 03:50:40.440 --> 03:50:42.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: election management asr-002502 03:50:42.440 --> 03:50:44.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: system po. asr-002503 03:50:44.440 --> 03:50:46.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito po ay whole package for the provider? asr-002504 03:50:46.440 --> 03:50:48.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yun ba? O yung asr-002505 03:50:48.440 --> 03:50:50.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 1.2 billion ba lahat sagot asr-002506 03:50:50.440 --> 03:50:52.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na nung asr-002507 03:50:52.440 --> 03:50:54.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: systems provider, o may asr-002508 03:50:54.440 --> 03:50:56.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: provider asr-002509 03:50:56.440 --> 03:50:58.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kada service? asr-002510 03:50:58.440 --> 03:51:00.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, asr-002511 03:51:00.440 --> 03:51:02.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sagot na po ng ating asr-002512 03:51:02.440 --> 03:51:04.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: provider lahat, except po asr-002513 03:51:04.440 --> 03:51:07.370 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung transmission po ng election. asr-002514 03:51:07.370 --> 03:51:08.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And printing of ballots? asr-002516 03:51:10.440 --> 03:51:12.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ballots rin po, asr-002517 03:51:12.440 --> 03:51:13.960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kasama ang printing of ballots. asr-002518 03:51:13.960 --> 03:51:16.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So magkano po yung nagastos for the BARMM elections asr-002519 03:51:16.440 --> 03:51:18.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: plus all of these services? asr-002520 03:51:18.440 --> 03:51:20.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Lahat-lahat po asr-002521 03:51:20.440 --> 03:51:22.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang nagastos na po asr-002522 03:51:22.440 --> 03:51:24.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para sa atin pong asr-002523 03:51:24.440 --> 03:51:26.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: BARMM elections are more or less asr-002524 03:51:26.440 --> 03:51:28.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 3 billion pesos po. asr-002525 03:51:28.440 --> 03:51:30.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 3 billion? asr-002526 03:51:30.440 --> 03:51:33.640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 3 billion po para po sa ating BARMM elections. asr-002527 03:51:33.640 --> 03:51:34.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So the Comelec now is in asr-002528 03:51:34.440 --> 03:51:36.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: preparation for the asr-002529 03:51:36.440 --> 03:51:38.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2028 national and local elections. asr-002530 03:51:38.440 --> 03:51:40.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Tama po? asr-002531 03:51:40.440 --> 03:51:42.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, Mr. Speaker. asr-002532 03:51:42.440 --> 03:51:44.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And Comelec is requesting asr-002533 03:51:44.440 --> 03:51:46.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 23 billion for asr-002534 03:51:48.440 --> 03:51:50.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: their budget for the asr-002535 03:51:50.440 --> 03:51:52.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: electoral asr-002536 03:51:52.440 --> 03:51:54.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: voting machines for the 2028 asr-002537 03:51:54.440 --> 03:51:56.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: elections. Saan po ba nakapaloob asr-002538 03:51:56.440 --> 03:51:58.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na sa ating 2027 asr-002539 03:51:58.440 --> 03:52:00.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: National Budget? asr-002540 03:52:00.440 --> 03:52:02.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang nire-request asr-002541 03:52:02.440 --> 03:52:04.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po ng ating asr-002542 03:52:04.440 --> 03:52:06.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Commission on Elections para po sa asr-002543 03:52:06.440 --> 03:52:08.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ating mga machines asr-002544 03:52:08.440 --> 03:52:10.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na budget po in preparation of asr-002545 03:52:10.440 --> 03:52:12.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 2028 elections are more or less asr-002546 03:52:12.440 --> 03:52:14.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 23.1 asr-002547 03:52:14.440 --> 03:52:16.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: billion po. asr-002548 03:52:16.440 --> 03:52:18.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And this is asr-002549 03:52:18.440 --> 03:52:20.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang nasa po ngayon asr-002550 03:52:20.440 --> 03:52:22.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ay 21.66 asr-002551 03:52:22.440 --> 03:52:24.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: billion po. asr-002552 03:52:26.440 --> 03:52:28.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: For the election asr-002553 03:52:28.440 --> 03:52:30.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: systems provider po, asr-002554 03:52:30.440 --> 03:52:32.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang nire-request asr-002555 03:52:32.440 --> 03:52:34.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: po ng Comelec is asr-002556 03:52:34.440 --> 03:52:36.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 23 point something billion, tama po ba? asr-002557 03:52:36.440 --> 03:52:38.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po. asr-002558 03:52:38.440 --> 03:52:40.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang proposed po is asr-002559 03:52:40.440 --> 03:52:42.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 16 billion, pero ang nasa asr-002560 03:52:42.440 --> 03:52:44.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: NEP po ng 2027 asr-002561 03:52:44.440 --> 03:52:46.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ay 21.66 asr-002562 03:52:46.440 --> 03:52:48.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: billion po. asr-002563 03:52:48.440 --> 03:52:50.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So papaano po sila asr-002564 03:52:50.440 --> 03:52:52.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: makakapagpa-bidding for 2027 asr-002565 03:52:52.440 --> 03:52:54.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kung kulang po ang budget? asr-002566 03:52:54.440 --> 03:52:56.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Actually, yun po yung asr-002567 03:52:56.440 --> 03:52:58.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nire-request po nila na maibigay asr-002568 03:52:58.440 --> 03:53:00.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung 23.16 billion asr-002569 03:53:00.440 --> 03:53:02.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kasi kukulangan asr-002570 03:53:02.440 --> 03:53:04.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po tayo ng 9,310 asr-002571 03:53:04.440 --> 03:53:06.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na machines. asr-002572 03:53:06.440 --> 03:53:08.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang magiging asr-002573 03:53:08.440 --> 03:53:10.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: resulta po nito ay longer lines, asr-002574 03:53:10.440 --> 03:53:12.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: longer queues po sa ating mga asr-002575 03:53:12.440 --> 03:53:14.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: precincts. asr-002576 03:53:16.440 --> 03:53:18.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Naibigay asr-002577 03:53:18.440 --> 03:53:20.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: po sa akin yung aking hiniling na asr-002578 03:53:20.440 --> 03:53:22.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mga terms of reference at asr-002579 03:53:22.440 --> 03:53:24.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung asr-002580 03:53:24.440 --> 03:53:26.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: resolution ng asr-002581 03:53:26.440 --> 03:53:28.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Comelec Advisory Council, asr-002582 03:53:28.440 --> 03:53:30.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: subalit ito po ay naibigay lang asr-002583 03:53:30.440 --> 03:53:32.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kanina kaya hindi ko pa po asr-002584 03:53:32.440 --> 03:53:34.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: nare-review. Kaya asr-002585 03:53:34.440 --> 03:53:36.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: magtatanong po ako ng ilan. asr-002586 03:53:36.440 --> 03:53:38.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: For the 2028 elections po, asr-002587 03:53:38.440 --> 03:53:40.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ano po ang gagamiting asr-002588 03:53:40.440 --> 03:53:42.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: makina? asr-002589 03:53:42.440 --> 03:53:44.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Wala pa po, asr-002590 03:53:44.440 --> 03:53:46.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, subject to bidding asr-002591 03:53:46.440 --> 03:53:48.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and subject to procurement. asr-002592 03:53:48.440 --> 03:53:50.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Terms of reference po ay draft pa asr-002593 03:53:50.440 --> 03:53:52.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hanggang sa ngayon, asr-002594 03:53:52.440 --> 03:53:54.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pina-finalize pa lang rin ng ating asr-002595 03:53:54.440 --> 03:53:56.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Comelec, asr-002596 03:53:56.440 --> 03:53:58.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: subject to the asr-002597 03:53:58.440 --> 03:54:00.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: recommendations po ng ating asr-002598 03:54:00.440 --> 03:54:02.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Comelec Advisory Council. asr-002599 03:54:02.440 --> 03:54:04.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So ibig pong sabihin wala pang asr-002600 03:54:04.440 --> 03:54:06.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: resolution ang Comelec as to asr-002601 03:54:06.440 --> 03:54:08.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the machines that will be used asr-002602 03:54:08.440 --> 03:54:10.970 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for the 2028 elections. Tama po? asr-002603 03:54:10.970 --> 03:54:12.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Wala pa po, asr-002604 03:54:12.440 --> 03:54:13.800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker. Tama po. asr-002605 03:54:13.800 --> 03:54:16.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So still in the process of approval asr-002606 03:54:16.440 --> 03:54:18.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: by the Commission? asr-002607 03:54:18.440 --> 03:54:19.980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, Mr. Speaker. asr-002608 03:54:19.980 --> 03:54:22.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Doon sa draft na terms of asr-002609 03:54:22.440 --> 03:54:24.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: reference, asr-002610 03:54:24.440 --> 03:54:26.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: totoo po ba na ang bibili natin ngayon, asr-002611 03:54:26.440 --> 03:54:28.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang ating gagamitin ngayon asr-002612 03:54:28.440 --> 03:54:30.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: o i-lease asr-002613 03:54:30.440 --> 03:54:32.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ay asr-002614 03:54:32.440 --> 03:54:34.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: brand new machines? Tama po ba? asr-002615 03:54:34.440 --> 03:54:36.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, asr-002616 03:54:36.440 --> 03:54:38.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, asr-002617 03:54:38.440 --> 03:54:40.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: bago po. asr-002618 03:54:40.440 --> 03:54:42.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito po ba ay asr-002619 03:54:42.440 --> 03:54:44.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: desisyon at rekomendasyon asr-002620 03:54:44.440 --> 03:54:46.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng Comelec Advisory Council? asr-002621 03:54:46.440 --> 03:54:48.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Doon po ba sa ginawa nilang asr-002622 03:54:48.440 --> 03:54:50.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: rekomendasyon kasama po yung term na asr-002623 03:54:50.440 --> 03:54:52.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: brand new? asr-002625 03:55:02.000 --> 03:55:02.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Mr. Speaker, asr-002626 03:55:02.440 --> 03:55:04.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: lahat po bago asr-002627 03:55:04.440 --> 03:55:06.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung asr-002628 03:55:06.440 --> 03:55:08.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: subject po ng ating asr-002629 03:55:08.440 --> 03:55:10.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: gagawing procurement. asr-002630 03:55:10.440 --> 03:55:12.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And this is the recommendation asr-002631 03:55:12.440 --> 03:55:14.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: of the Comelec Advisory Council? asr-002632 03:55:14.440 --> 03:55:16.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Wala pong specific asr-002633 03:55:16.440 --> 03:55:18.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na nilagay po para sa asr-002634 03:55:18.440 --> 03:55:20.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Comelec Advisory Council. asr-002635 03:55:20.440 --> 03:55:22.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So it is the decision of whom asr-002636 03:55:22.440 --> 03:55:24.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para po mag-purchase asr-002637 03:55:24.440 --> 03:55:26.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng mga bago? asr-002638 03:55:26.440 --> 03:55:28.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: It will be the decision of the asr-002639 03:55:28.440 --> 03:55:30.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Commission in accordance with the law. asr-002640 03:55:30.440 --> 03:55:32.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Well, it means that the asr-002641 03:55:32.440 --> 03:55:34.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Comelec Advisory Council asr-002642 03:55:34.440 --> 03:55:36.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: did not recommend asr-002643 03:55:36.440 --> 03:55:38.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: or did not comment asr-002644 03:55:38.440 --> 03:55:40.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: on the issue of whether asr-002645 03:55:40.440 --> 03:55:42.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: we can use the asr-002646 03:55:42.440 --> 03:55:44.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: previous machines asr-002647 03:55:44.440 --> 03:55:46.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: that we used in the asr-002648 03:55:46.440 --> 03:55:48.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2025 election, asr-002649 03:55:48.440 --> 03:55:50.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: machines that we used in the asr-002650 03:55:50.440 --> 03:55:52.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2025 election, because under RA number asr-002651 03:55:52.440 --> 03:55:54.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 9369, asr-002653 03:55:56.440 --> 03:55:58.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the CAC is asr-002654 03:55:58.440 --> 03:56:00.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: obliged to recommend asr-002655 03:56:00.440 --> 03:56:02.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the most appropriate, secure, asr-002656 03:56:02.440 --> 03:56:04.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: applicable and cost-effective asr-002657 03:56:04.440 --> 03:56:06.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: technology asr-002658 03:56:06.440 --> 03:56:08.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for the automated elections. asr-002659 03:56:08.440 --> 03:56:10.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Cost-effective. asr-002660 03:56:10.440 --> 03:56:12.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito po bang pagbili muli ng bagong asr-002661 03:56:12.440 --> 03:56:14.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: machine ay cost-effective? asr-002662 03:56:16.440 --> 03:56:18.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Well, asr-002663 03:56:18.440 --> 03:56:20.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, asr-002664 03:56:20.440 --> 03:56:22.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague, asr-002665 03:56:22.440 --> 03:56:24.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang rekomendasyon pa rin po is lease asr-002666 03:56:24.440 --> 03:56:26.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of new machines po yung asr-002667 03:56:26.440 --> 03:56:28.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: gagawin po ng Commission sapagkat asr-002668 03:56:28.440 --> 03:56:30.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung asr-002669 03:56:30.440 --> 03:56:32.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: bibilhin po natin, asr-002670 03:56:32.440 --> 03:56:34.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mas malaking budget po asr-002671 03:56:34.440 --> 03:56:36.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kailangan po ng ating Commission. asr-002672 03:56:36.440 --> 03:56:38.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Tama po. Bago ako magpatuloy, asr-002673 03:56:38.440 --> 03:56:40.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: nais kong maging malinaw. Hindi ko asr-002674 03:56:40.440 --> 03:56:42.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: hinihiling na automatikong igawad asr-002675 03:56:42.440 --> 03:56:44.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa Miro Systems ang 2028 asr-002676 03:56:44.440 --> 03:56:46.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Automated Election Contract. asr-002677 03:56:46.440 --> 03:56:48.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi ako kumakampi sa anumang asr-002678 03:56:48.440 --> 03:56:50.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: supplier. Ang hinihingi asr-002679 03:56:50.440 --> 03:56:52.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ko ay simple at makatwiran: asr-002680 03:56:52.440 --> 03:56:54.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: huwag isara ng Comelec ang asr-002681 03:56:54.440 --> 03:56:56.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pinto sa 110,620 asr-002682 03:56:56.440 --> 03:56:58.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: machines asr-002683 03:56:58.440 --> 03:57:00.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na ginamit noong 2025 asr-002684 03:57:00.440 --> 03:57:02.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: national and local asr-002685 03:57:02.440 --> 03:57:04.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: elections bago pa man asr-002686 03:57:04.440 --> 03:57:06.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: magkaroon ng independent asr-002687 03:57:06.440 --> 03:57:08.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at financial evaluation. asr-002688 03:57:08.440 --> 03:57:10.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sa gitna ng fiscal crisis, asr-002689 03:57:10.440 --> 03:57:12.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: habang binabawasan ang pondo para asr-002690 03:57:12.440 --> 03:57:14.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa edukasyon, kalusugan at social asr-002691 03:57:14.440 --> 03:57:16.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: services, kailangang patunayan ng asr-002692 03:57:16.440 --> 03:57:18.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Comelec na ang paggastos ng asr-002693 03:57:18.440 --> 03:57:20.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: humigit-kumulang 23 billion asr-002694 03:57:20.440 --> 03:57:22.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para sa brand-new asr-002695 03:57:22.440 --> 03:57:24.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: fleet ay asr-002696 03:57:24.440 --> 03:57:26.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: tunay na kinakailangan, hindi lamang asr-002697 03:57:26.440 --> 03:57:28.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: dahil iyon ang gusto o mas komportable asr-002698 03:57:28.440 --> 03:57:30.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para sa ahensya. asr-002699 03:57:30.440 --> 03:57:32.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ang tanong ay hindi kung bago asr-002700 03:57:32.440 --> 03:57:34.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang makina. Ang dapat na asr-002701 03:57:34.440 --> 03:57:36.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: tanong: secure asr-002702 03:57:36.440 --> 03:57:38.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ba? asr-002703 03:57:38.440 --> 03:57:40.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maaasahan ba? Sapat ba ang performance? asr-002704 03:57:40.440 --> 03:57:42.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At alin ang pinakamabuti para sa bayan? asr-002705 03:57:42.440 --> 03:57:44.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Dahil kung asr-002706 03:57:44.440 --> 03:57:46.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: puwede naman yung nagamit asr-002707 03:57:46.440 --> 03:57:48.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: natin na may 99.997 asr-002708 03:57:48.440 --> 03:57:50.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: percent na asr-002709 03:57:50.440 --> 03:57:52.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: accuracy, asr-002710 03:57:52.440 --> 03:57:54.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: bakit hindi natin puwedeng gamitin? asr-002711 03:57:54.440 --> 03:57:56.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit hindi natin payagan? asr-002712 03:57:56.440 --> 03:57:58.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ang ibigay nating asr-002713 03:57:58.440 --> 03:58:00.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: parameters hindi brand new. asr-002714 03:58:00.440 --> 03:58:02.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kasi po pag brand new, asr-002715 03:58:02.440 --> 03:58:04.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: tinatanggal mo na yung dati na asr-002716 03:58:04.440 --> 03:58:06.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: puwede pa naman. asr-002717 03:58:06.440 --> 03:58:08.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sabi ninyo nga kanina, asr-002718 03:58:08.440 --> 03:58:10.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 1.2 billion lang ang nagastos asr-002719 03:58:10.440 --> 03:58:12.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for 7,000 asr-002720 03:58:12.440 --> 03:58:14.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: machines. Kung kukuwentahin ninyo yan, asr-002721 03:58:14.440 --> 03:58:16.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: we only spend around 15 billion asr-002722 03:58:16.440 --> 03:58:18.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kung gagamitin natin asr-002723 03:58:18.440 --> 03:58:20.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung nagamit natin sa BARMM asr-002724 03:58:20.440 --> 03:58:22.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ngayon. Pero kung asr-002725 03:58:22.440 --> 03:58:24.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: bago, 23 billion. asr-002726 03:58:24.440 --> 03:58:26.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 8 billion. asr-002727 03:58:26.440 --> 03:58:28.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit hindi po ito tiningnan asr-002728 03:58:28.440 --> 03:58:30.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng Commission asr-002729 03:58:30.440 --> 03:58:32.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: on Elections? Ano po ang dahilan? asr-002730 03:58:32.440 --> 03:58:34.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit brand new? Pangalawa, asr-002731 03:58:34.440 --> 03:58:36.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: alam ninyo noong asr-002732 03:58:36.440 --> 03:58:38.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2025 national elections, asr-002733 03:58:38.440 --> 03:58:40.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ako po ay nagpetisyon sa Korte Suprema. asr-002734 03:58:40.440 --> 03:58:42.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kinuwestiyon ko rin bakit hindi natin asr-002735 03:58:42.440 --> 03:58:44.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: gamitin yung binili asr-002736 03:58:44.440 --> 03:58:46.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng asr-002737 03:58:46.440 --> 03:58:48.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: gobyerno asr-002738 03:58:48.440 --> 03:58:50.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa Smartmatic. asr-002739 03:58:50.440 --> 03:58:52.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sabi nila asr-002740 03:58:52.440 --> 03:58:54.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: hindi na raw puwede, obsolete asr-002741 03:58:54.440 --> 03:58:56.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na raw. Ngayon po ba itong asr-002742 03:58:56.440 --> 03:58:58.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Miro na ginamit natin asr-002743 03:58:58.440 --> 03:59:00.400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na one time pa lang, obsolete na ba ito? asr-002744 03:59:00.400 --> 03:59:02.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, asr-002745 03:59:02.440 --> 03:59:04.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague, asr-002746 03:59:04.440 --> 03:59:06.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hindi naman po obsolete, pero yung asr-002747 03:59:06.440 --> 03:59:08.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kontrata po during that time ng ating asr-002748 03:59:08.440 --> 03:59:10.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 2025 elections ay asr-002749 03:59:10.440 --> 03:59:12.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: lease contract po talaga ang nasa terms of reference. asr-002750 03:59:12.440 --> 03:59:14.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi po ba natin puwedeng asr-002751 03:59:14.440 --> 03:59:16.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: payagan na hindi brand new asr-002752 03:59:16.440 --> 03:59:18.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang asr-002753 03:59:18.440 --> 03:59:20.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: i-le-lease natin sa 2028 asr-002754 03:59:20.440 --> 03:59:22.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: elections kung asr-002755 03:59:22.440 --> 03:59:24.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mapapatunayan naman na puwede pa asr-002756 03:59:24.440 --> 03:59:27.900 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at kasing kalidad ito ng brand new? asr-002757 03:59:27.900 --> 03:59:28.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, asr-002758 03:59:28.440 --> 03:59:30.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: puwede pa rin naman po asr-002759 03:59:30.440 --> 03:59:32.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pag-aralan, lalo na po asr-002760 03:59:32.440 --> 03:59:34.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hindi pa po final asr-002761 03:59:34.440 --> 03:59:36.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang nakasaad sa ating terms of reference. asr-002762 03:59:36.440 --> 03:59:38.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So ibig pong sabihin puwede asr-002763 03:59:38.440 --> 03:59:40.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pang mabago yung terms of reference asr-002764 03:59:40.440 --> 03:59:42.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na ang kukunin nating asr-002765 03:59:42.440 --> 03:59:44.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sistema ay brand new? asr-002766 03:59:44.440 --> 03:59:46.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Puwede pa pong mabago. asr-002767 03:59:46.440 --> 03:59:48.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Puwede pa pong mabago, asr-002768 03:59:48.440 --> 03:59:50.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Mr. Speaker. asr-002769 03:59:50.440 --> 03:59:52.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At sana kung mababago man o hindi, asr-002770 03:59:52.440 --> 03:59:54.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: dapat po may malinaw na batayan asr-002771 03:59:54.440 --> 03:59:56.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang Commission on Elections. asr-002772 03:59:56.440 --> 03:59:58.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hinihiling natin na magbigay sila, asr-002773 03:59:58.440 --> 04:00:00.000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kasi po wala pa namang... asr-002776 04:00:00.000 --> 04:00:13.240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Wala pa akong nakikita na pag-aaral patungkol po sa kung ano ang requirements ng Commission on Elections asr-002777 04:00:13.240 --> 04:00:25.200 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para sa gagamiting mga machines for 2028 at hindi po natin tinignan yung possibility na maggamit itong 110,000 machines. asr-002778 04:00:25.200 --> 04:00:31.540 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito po, narito na. Ito po, hindi na ito mamanufacture. Kung kinakailangan, pwede lang i-upgrade. asr-002779 04:00:32.800 --> 04:00:37.700 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Makakamura tayo dito, akon, tinataya ko, 8 to 10 billion. asr-002780 04:00:38.300 --> 04:00:48.940 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ang masasave natin kung gagamitin natin ito, kung mananalo sa biding, kung hindi natin babawalan yung hindi brand new. asr-002781 04:00:49.420 --> 04:00:54.260 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Dito po, sa draft na terms of reference, asr-002782 04:00:55.200 --> 04:00:56.640 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pag hindi brand new, hindi na pwede. asr-002783 04:00:57.840 --> 04:01:02.760 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yun ang masakit. 110 million. Nandito na po. Nandito na. asr-002784 04:01:14.760 --> 04:01:24.240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano po ba ang Manufactured Certified Useful Life ng Makina ng Miro na ginamit natin noong 2025 National and Local Election? asr-002785 04:01:24.240 --> 04:01:27.980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Tatlong taon lang ba? Limang taon? O sampung taon? O higit pa? asr-002786 04:01:31.680 --> 04:01:46.020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, pwede po siyang gamitin for three elections po talaga yung kapasidad po ng ating mga makita na pin-provide po ng ating provider ng Miro. asr-002787 04:01:46.020 --> 04:01:54.100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So may independent engineering report po ba ang Comelec na nagsasabing magiging functional o secure pa ang mga makina. asr-002788 04:01:54.240 --> 04:01:55.320 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito for 2028? asr-002789 04:01:56.320 --> 04:02:11.820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, base po ito sa DOST certification po at international certification entity na nagkakondak po ng verification po sa ating mga makina. asr-002790 04:02:12.560 --> 04:02:15.740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So yun po ang kanilang ginamit. asr-002791 04:02:15.740 --> 04:02:22.880 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: May particular component po ba ang mga makinang ito na magiging obsolete pagdating ng 2028? asr-002792 04:02:24.780 --> 04:02:31.260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, baka po yung scanner lang po yung kailangan palitan. asr-002793 04:02:32.600 --> 04:02:36.640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kung sa the rest, processor okay lang po. asr-002793-split-2 04:02:36.640 --> 04:02:46.840 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Battery, modem, operating system, security module, scanner lang po? asr-002794 04:02:46.840 --> 04:02:54.200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang isa pang recommendation ng Commission ay yung fan po kapag medyo mainit po yung presinto. asr-002797 04:02:54.200 --> 04:03:07.500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May mga cases po kasing nag-o-overheat yung ating makina. Yun po yung iniisip po nila o nire-recommend nilang idagdag sa terms of reference para po maiwasan yung overheating ng mga makina. asr-002798 04:03:07.500 --> 04:03:26.660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maaari po bang hilingin sa Comelec na bago magdesisyon sa final na terms of reference ng bidding for the 2028 election ay magharap ng independent engineering study ang Comelec na naghahambing asr-002799 04:03:26.660 --> 04:03:37.460 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: continued use with ordinary maintenance, refurbishment and upgrading, partial replacement ng defective units at complete replacement na mahigit asr-002800 04:03:37.500 --> 04:03:50.880 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 110,000 brand new machines? Kung pwede po magkaroon tayo ng comparative cost analysis at kung ano yung mga technical advantages ng bawat isa. asr-002801 04:03:51.620 --> 04:04:02.240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pwede po, oo. Mr. Speaker, open po ang komisyon sa ganyang question. Kailangan lang rin po ng tulong po ng DOST kasi sila po yung namamahala po, asr-002802 04:04:02.240 --> 04:04:04.400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with regard po sa technical specifications. asr-002803 04:04:04.480 --> 04:04:07.380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Mahalaga po na maipaabot to. asr-002804 04:04:07.500 --> 04:04:21.620 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sa pagkat gusto, ang kailangan natin sa Kongreso, mapatunayan na yung 23 billion talagang kailangan sa paggastos at panggastos ng bayan. asr-002805 04:04:21.620 --> 04:04:35.860 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam nyo naman na nakikita naman natin na napaka kaunti ng fiscal space natin ngayon. Only 16% lang po ang fiscal space natin. asr-002806 04:04:35.860 --> 04:04:45.100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At yung 8-10 billion na matitipid ay napakalaking bagay para sa ibang mga pangangailangan ng ating bayan. asr-002807 04:04:50.540 --> 04:05:05.080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Gusto ko rin pong tanungin ng Comelec. Noong 2025 elections ay nagpakita ng humigit kumulang 99.997 accuracy ang mirror systems. Tama po ba? asr-002808 04:05:05.860 --> 04:05:07.140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Tama po, Mr. Speaker. asr-002809 04:05:07.880 --> 04:05:12.120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: But accuracy is not the only measure. Kaya hinihingi namin ang buong performance record. asr-002810 04:05:12.120 --> 04:05:20.960 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ilang machine ang na-deploy? Ilan ang hindi nag-start? Ilan ang nag-malfunction habang bumoboto ang publiko? asr-002811 04:05:22.000 --> 04:05:27.420 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ilan ang na-repair? Ilan ang kinakailangang palitan? Ilan ang hindi nakapag-transmit electronically? asr-002812 04:05:28.380 --> 04:05:35.740 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ilan ang kinakailangang gumamit ng alternative transmission? Gano'ng katagal ang average waiting time para sa replacement? asr-002813 04:05:35.860 --> 04:05:46.480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ilang election protests ang direktang naugnay sa machine counting errors? Anong defects ang hindi kayang ayusin sa pamagitan ng ordinary repair or upgrade? asr-002814 04:05:46.800 --> 04:05:54.920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi ko lang po hinihingi na sagutin ito ngayon. Hinihingi ko lang po na maibigay sa atin yung mga sagot na ito sa lalong madaling panahon. asr-002815 04:05:54.920 --> 04:06:03.820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Commission will comply. Ia-add lang rin po nila yung reports during the BARM elections rin po para po makonsolidate yung data. asr-002816 04:06:04.580 --> 04:06:04.920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Regarding doon sa... asr-002817 04:06:05.860 --> 04:06:17.600 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Lilinawin ko rin po ulit. Hindi po nagrekomenda ang Comelec Advisory Council na ang gamitin natin for the 2025 elections ay brand new machines. asr-002818 04:06:18.520 --> 04:06:24.040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi po, Mr. Speaker. More on technical issues lang po yung kanilang po narekomenda. asr-002819 04:06:28.680 --> 04:06:32.100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nag-recommend ba ang Advisory Council laban sa reuse? asr-002820 04:06:35.860 --> 04:06:37.720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi po, Mr. Speaker. asr-002821 04:06:38.800 --> 04:06:49.360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Paano po nailagay yung brand new doon sa Terms of Reference? Hindi ba inuunahan ng Comelec ang isang technical question na ipinagkatiwala ng Batas Advisory Council? asr-002822 04:06:50.740 --> 04:07:01.660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi naman po kasi, Mr. Speaker, finafinalize pa rin naman po yung TOR. Any suggestion coming from our colleagues and other partners po, welcome na welcome naman po. asr-002823 04:07:02.020 --> 04:07:05.360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: But it was not discussed in the meeting. asr-002824 04:07:05.860 --> 04:07:20.560 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: It was not discussed in the meeting of the Comelec Advisory Council whether... Kasi po, napaka-critical nung reuse because it can save 8 to 10 billion pesos. Bakit hindi ito napag-usapan sa Comelec Advisory Council? asr-002825 04:07:21.360 --> 04:07:29.980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Well, Mr. Speaker, more importantly, hindi po kasi parte ang Comelec ng Comelec Advisory Council. So, kaya hindi po siya napag-usap. asr-002826 04:07:29.980 --> 04:07:32.540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ay, wala pong say ang ating komisyon. asr-002827 04:07:32.900 --> 04:07:33.980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung ano po yung asr-002828 04:07:33.980 --> 04:07:36.780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: rekomendasyon po ng ating CAC. asr-002829 04:07:37.600 --> 04:07:45.420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung pagtatali po sa brand new hindi naman po nila minamandato. asr-002830 04:07:46.160 --> 04:08:02.900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero, dahil po medyo rapid po yung changing technologies po ngayon, yun po yung naiisip o nai-envision po ng ating komisyon na gamitin para po mas sigurado dahil nga po may mga certain issues po ng overheating na na... asr-002831 04:08:03.980 --> 04:08:05.820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ...experience po ng ating 2025 election. asr-002832 04:08:07.280 --> 04:08:18.280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ibig pong sabihin, sa napakahalagang issue ng reuse, ay hindi po pinag-usapan ng Comelec Advisory Council ito? asr-002833 04:08:20.500 --> 04:08:30.740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi po napag-usapan ng ating CAC ang ating kanyang rekomendasyon po, Mr. Speaker, kasi hindi po talaga parte ang Comelec ng CAC. asr-002834 04:08:33.980 --> 04:08:47.220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, ibig pong sabihin, binibigyan ng CAC ang Comelec ng Blanket Authority dating po sa issue ng reuse. Tama po ba yan? asr-002835 04:08:53.860 --> 04:09:03.860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Mr. Speaker, hindi naman po Blanket Authority. Ang ating komisyon ay lagi pong kinukonsidera ang rekomendasyon po ng ating... asr-002836 04:09:03.980 --> 04:09:08.060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ...Comelec Advisory Council at ang iba pong partners. asr-002837 04:09:08.800 --> 04:09:15.060 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sabalit, ito po ay isa sa pinakamahalagang technical issue, whether reuse is possible. asr-002838 04:09:16.340 --> 04:09:17.460 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit hindi pinag-usapan? asr-002839 04:09:19.040 --> 04:09:32.980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito po ba ay, ano, kailangan pang ang inyong lingkod ang magpaalam sa Comelec Advisory Council para hihingin ang kanilang opinion pagdating po sa issue ng reuse? asr-002840 04:09:33.980 --> 04:09:47.700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, hindi po silang pwedeng, ang ating komisyon, hindi po pong pwedeng mga alam kung ano po yung napag-uusapan doon. asr-002841 04:09:48.140 --> 04:09:55.260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero yung ating pong question on reuse, open naman po ang ating pong komisyon, pag-aaralan po nila. asr-002842 04:09:55.260 --> 04:10:00.580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hayaan niyo po at tutulungan natin ang Comelec na tanungin ang Comelec Advisory Council. asr-002843 04:10:01.440 --> 04:10:03.960 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nasa ilalim po ng Republic Act No. asr-002844 04:10:03.980 --> 04:10:11.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 12009, the New Government Procurement Act, kinakailangan ng value for money, market scoping at lifestyle cost analysis. asr-002845 04:10:12.080 --> 04:10:19.360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nagsagawa ba ang Comelec ng cost analysis bago nito iminungkahi ang 23 billion halaga? asr-002846 04:10:21.300 --> 04:10:25.980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, Mr. Speaker, nagkasagawa po ng market scoping ating pong Comelec. asr-002847 04:10:26.940 --> 04:10:32.760 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At pwede niyo po bang i-discuss ito ngayon kung ano yung mga findings? asr-002848 04:10:33.980 --> 04:10:37.300 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Please, on how did you arrive with 23 billion? asr-002849 04:10:43.300 --> 04:10:53.340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang base po sa kanilang market scoping, ang presyo po na kailangan niya ay 25.6 billion. asr-002850 04:10:56.500 --> 04:10:57.900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Lease pa lang po ito. asr-002851 04:10:58.780 --> 04:10:59.040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pardon? asr-002852 04:10:59.460 --> 04:11:02.000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Lease pa lang po, contract of lease, renta po. asr-002853 04:11:03.980 --> 04:11:04.640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker. asr-002854 04:11:05.200 --> 04:11:09.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Meaning, magkano po per unit? asr-002855 04:11:17.580 --> 04:11:26.760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang estimate price po niya, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, mga 180,000 per machine po. asr-002856 04:11:28.040 --> 04:11:33.940 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nagsagawa po ba ang Comelec ng consultation regarding sa mga posibilidad? asr-002857 04:11:33.980 --> 04:11:42.340 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Halaga ng reuse, halaga ng reuse ng 2025 machines, halaga ng upgrading, halaga ng pag-lease lamang ng karagdagang machines, asr-002858 04:11:42.820 --> 04:11:48.580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: halaga ng isang completely new system at expected useful life at residual value ng bawat opso. asr-002859 04:11:53.580 --> 04:12:00.800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, sa ngayon wala pa po na nagagawa on the study regarding sa reuse po. asr-002860 04:12:00.800 --> 04:12:11.780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, habang pina-finalize pa po yung ating TOR, wala pa pong final say ang ating pong Comelec regarding that matter. asr-002861 04:12:12.020 --> 04:12:17.600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And, iniintay rin pong matapos rin po yung final counting nung sa Bangsamoro. asr-002862 04:12:19.600 --> 04:12:26.120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nagtataka lang po ako, Mr. Speaker, na we arrive at 23 billion without doing all these matters. asr-002863 04:12:26.760 --> 04:12:28.380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit hindi mo natin ginawa ito? asr-002864 04:12:28.380 --> 04:12:29.380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, upang na... asr-002865 04:12:30.800 --> 04:12:40.460 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pagkaharap sa budget, dito po, pag-ingin ng budget sa ating bayan, alam natin kung ano yung cost effective. asr-002866 04:12:40.780 --> 04:12:41.920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ngayon po, hindi natin alam kasi. asr-002867 04:12:42.660 --> 04:12:48.600 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi natin alam kung gagamitin natin yung dating machine kung kano ba ang magagasos natin. asr-002868 04:12:49.600 --> 04:12:59.680 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Gaya nga ng sinabi ko kanina, logically, mas mura yung magamit na natin. asr-002869 04:12:59.800 --> 04:13:00.400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kung po pwede ba? asr-002870 04:13:00.400 --> 04:13:03.660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sapagkat nandito na yung mga machines. Wala na yung logistics cost. asr-002871 04:13:08.200 --> 04:13:20.400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, ngayon po, kung tatanungin ko kayo, hindi nyo po masasagot kung magkano yung repurbish cost at upgrading cost nung Miro machine kung ito ang gagamitin natin. asr-002872 04:13:25.780 --> 04:13:27.540 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At least estimated po sa... asr-002873 04:13:27.540 --> 04:13:29.480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam ko naman na pakita sa bidding. asr-002874 04:13:29.680 --> 04:13:30.380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Saka mo malalaman. asr-002875 04:13:30.400 --> 04:13:37.940 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam ko naman kung ano yung cost. Pero yung estimated cost ng reuse compared to a brand new machine. asr-002876 04:13:40.440 --> 04:13:55.940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, as of now po, hindi pa po napafactor in yung presyo ng ating pag-referbish ng mga nagamit na dahil hindi pa nga po final yung TOR. asr-002877 04:13:55.940 --> 04:13:57.940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Tapos... asr-002879 04:14:00.400 --> 04:14:07.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: What does it mean that the Commission on Elections is hell-bent on leasing a brand new machine? asr-002880 04:14:07.960 --> 04:14:15.320 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Because they did not factor in existence of these old machines. asr-002881 04:14:15.720 --> 04:14:21.300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, hindi naman po sila hell-bent to lease new machines. asr-002882 04:14:22.420 --> 04:14:29.300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They will study kung ano po yung pangailangan pa kung magre-reuse po ng ating mga machines na nagamit po ng... asr-002883 04:14:30.400 --> 04:14:33.060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May 2025 National and Local Elections pati ng BARB. asr-002884 04:14:35.240 --> 04:14:44.400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano po bang particular na requirement ng 2028 ang hindi kayang gawin ng 2025 machines? asr-002886 04:15:00.000 --> 04:15:27.060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, more on additional machines po, yung kakailanganin din, kailangan po mag-input ng ibang measures para po yung mga issues na experienced po noong 2025 elections, pati nitong BARM, iayos na rin po, ma-incorporate po sa ating mga machines na i-release, if ever, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. asr-002887 04:15:27.060 --> 04:15:36.560 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I have several questions here. Hindi ko na po inihiling na sagutin nyo na rin kagad ngayon. Maaari lang po maibigay sa akin ng kasagutan sa lalong magdaling panahon. asr-002888 04:15:37.080 --> 04:15:39.160 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kaya ba nilang mag-scan ng mas mahabang balot? asr-002889 04:15:40.920 --> 04:15:47.560 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maaari bang i-reconfigure ang software para sa President at Vice President nitong mga lumang machine? asr-002890 04:15:48.120 --> 04:15:51.140 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maaari bang i-upgrade ang memory, modem, batteries, o processors? asr-002891 04:15:51.140 --> 04:15:56.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kung mas marami ang precincts, bakit hindi na lamang mag-lease o kumuha ng karagdagang machines? asr-002892 04:15:57.060 --> 04:16:00.960 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kaysa halip na palitan ng 110,620 machines. asr-002893 04:16:02.400 --> 04:16:13.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kailangan siguro po ay i-quantify talaga ng COMELEC yung additional workload, tukuyin ang eksaktong hardware limitation bago tayo mag-desisyon. asr-002894 04:16:14.180 --> 04:16:25.600 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kung walang malinaw na sagot, ang mas complex na presidential election ay slogan lamang, hindi bidding, sapagkat nakita ko po maraming mga violations. asr-002895 04:16:25.980 --> 04:16:26.360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: In fact, asr-002896 04:16:27.060 --> 04:16:42.280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: One of my allegations was gumamit lang yung Miro ng isang kumpanya para maabot yung kanyang contracting capacity. asr-002897 04:16:42.580 --> 04:16:45.360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At yung kumpanya po na yan ay yung mga nakakulong na ngayon. asr-002898 04:16:46.000 --> 04:16:47.040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Siguro po, alam nyo. asr-002899 04:16:47.400 --> 04:16:57.020 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, mahalaga po na maging malinaw in terms of reference natin para hindi masisentro baka mangyari yan isang bidder na naman. asr-002900 04:16:57.060 --> 04:17:05.700 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Baka yung terms of reference ay tailored fit sa isang bidder. asr-002901 04:17:05.840 --> 04:17:11.220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Siguro po, sa akin naman po, it's more of a caution rather than an accusation. asr-002902 04:17:11.840 --> 04:17:21.680 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Mas mabuti ngayon pa lang, mas malinaw na kaysa dubating doon sa punto na kinakailangan na naman ang inyong lingkod ay mag-file ng kaso sa Korte Suprema. asr-002903 04:17:21.860 --> 04:17:24.480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Mas mabuti pa ngayon pa lang, maisaayos na. asr-002904 04:17:26.180 --> 04:17:27.000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, asr-002905 04:17:27.060 --> 04:17:32.460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Tama po yung ating kasamahan po dito sa Kongreso. asr-002906 04:17:32.820 --> 04:17:41.540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The Commission will take into account lahat po ng suggestion at yung mga hinihingi pong mga kasagutan regarding po sa technical specification po. asr-002907 04:17:42.020 --> 04:17:50.240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Lalo na po doon sa machines na ginawit po ng last national and local elections, sasabit po ng ating komisyon. asr-002908 04:17:50.680 --> 04:17:55.300 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Finally, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, asr-002909 04:17:55.640 --> 04:17:57.040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: meron po akong ilang mga kasusunod. asr-002910 04:17:57.060 --> 04:18:09.100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: May mga katanungan na nais ko din masagot ng Commission on Elections upang masiguro natin na magiging mas maayos ang procurement natin for the 2028 elections. asr-002911 04:18:09.740 --> 04:18:22.880 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Unang tanong, siguro po kailangan sagutin ng malinaw, may independent study ba na nagsasabing safe o unsafe yung 2025 machines na ginamit natin? asr-002912 04:18:24.340 --> 04:18:26.340 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: May independent study ba? asr-002913 04:18:27.060 --> 04:18:30.400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: technically obsolete asr-002914 04:18:30.400 --> 04:18:31.920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: o hindi pa ang mga ito? asr-002915 04:18:32.940 --> 04:18:34.220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Natukoy na ba ng Comelec asr-002916 04:18:34.220 --> 04:18:36.360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang remaining useful life ng machines? asr-002917 04:18:38.140 --> 04:18:40.040 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Congressman Erice, your time is up. asr-002918 04:18:40.320 --> 04:18:41.260 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Kindly wind up, please. asr-002919 04:18:41.260 --> 04:18:44.080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes, I'm winding up. This is my final... asr-002920 04:18:44.080 --> 04:18:44.520 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you. asr-002921 04:18:46.260 --> 04:18:47.640 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Natukoy na ba ang halaga ng asr-002922 04:18:47.640 --> 04:18:50.100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: refurbishment and upgrading nito? asr-002923 04:18:50.100 --> 04:18:51.660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At kung magkano? asr-002924 04:18:52.280 --> 04:18:53.220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nakumpleto na ba ang asr-002925 04:18:53.220 --> 04:18:55.920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: life cycle cost comparison? asr-002926 04:18:55.920 --> 04:18:57.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes or no? asr-002927 04:18:57.680 --> 04:18:58.640 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nag-recommend ba? asr-002928 04:18:59.340 --> 04:19:01.800 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kailangan siguro po na muling konsultuhin asr-002929 04:19:01.800 --> 04:19:04.160 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang advisory council tungkol dito. asr-002930 04:19:06.700 --> 04:19:08.160 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sinumite ba ng Comelec asr-002931 04:19:08.160 --> 04:19:09.920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa Kongreso ang resolution asr-002932 04:19:09.920 --> 04:19:11.540 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: minutes at technical studies? asr-002933 04:19:12.740 --> 04:19:14.520 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Papayagan ba ng terms of reference asr-002934 04:19:14.520 --> 04:19:16.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang qualified bidder na mag-aalok asr-002935 04:19:16.180 --> 04:19:18.320 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng proven, secure, and upgraded machines? asr-002936 04:19:19.440 --> 04:19:20.260 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sumasangayon ba asr-002937 04:19:20.260 --> 04:19:22.120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang Comelec na walang final decision asr-002938 04:19:22.120 --> 04:19:24.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: hanggat hindi nakakatanggap ang Kongreso asr-002939 04:19:24.180 --> 04:19:25.380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng independent, asr-002940 04:19:25.380 --> 04:19:27.460 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: itemized, at auditable asr-002941 04:19:27.460 --> 04:19:29.480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: comparison ng lahat asr-002942 04:19:29.480 --> 04:19:30.760 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng options? asr-002943 04:19:31.300 --> 04:19:33.260 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yun lamang po at hinihingi ko asr-002944 04:19:33.260 --> 04:19:35.000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na masagot ito ng asr-002945 04:19:35.000 --> 04:19:36.520 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Commission on Elections. Salamat po. asr-002946 04:19:36.900 --> 04:19:38.960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Commission will asr-002947 04:19:38.960 --> 04:19:41.060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: submit po asr-002948 04:19:41.060 --> 04:19:42.680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung lahat po ng katanungan po ng ating asr-002949 04:19:42.680 --> 04:19:45.020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague. As regards po asr-002950 04:19:45.020 --> 04:19:47.040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa independent study, hinihintay lang rin po asr-002951 04:19:47.040 --> 04:19:48.740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung katapusan po ng ating asr-002952 04:19:48.740 --> 04:19:49.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bangsamoro asr-002953 04:19:49.440 --> 04:19:53.300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: elections para po ma-incorporate po asr-002954 04:19:53.300 --> 04:19:55.140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung conduct po ng elections. asr-002955 04:19:55.380 --> 04:19:57.140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang BARMM doon sa study po na gagawin asr-002956 04:19:57.140 --> 04:19:57.840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng ating Comelec. asr-002957 04:19:58.400 --> 04:19:59.580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maraming salamat po. asr-002958 04:19:59.720 --> 04:20:00.120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you po. asr-002959 04:20:00.800 --> 04:20:02.830 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader. asr-002960 04:20:05.680 --> 04:20:08.000 Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize asr-002961 04:20:08.000 --> 04:20:09.460 Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: the Honorable Representative asr-002962 04:20:09.460 --> 04:20:11.860 Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela asr-002963 04:20:11.860 --> 04:20:13.600 Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Women's Party List asr-002964 04:20:13.600 --> 04:20:15.940 Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: to interpellate on the proposed budget asr-002965 04:20:15.940 --> 04:20:17.840 Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: of the Commission on Elections. asr-002966 04:20:18.080 --> 04:20:20.200 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Honorable Sarah Jane Elago asr-002967 04:20:20.200 --> 04:20:21.680 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: is recognized. Please proceed. asr-002968 04:20:24.260 --> 04:20:25.220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat. asr-002970 04:20:25.380 --> 04:20:26.000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-002971 04:20:27.280 --> 04:20:29.060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: First, during the asr-002972 04:20:29.060 --> 04:20:31.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2027 budget briefing for Comelec, asr-002973 04:20:31.880 --> 04:20:33.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the Commission put great emphasis asr-002974 04:20:33.420 --> 04:20:35.340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on voter registration asr-002975 04:20:35.340 --> 04:20:37.600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to ensure that more Filipinos asr-002976 04:20:37.600 --> 04:20:39.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: are registered and are able to asr-002977 04:20:39.440 --> 04:20:41.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: vote before the 2028 asr-002978 04:20:41.240 --> 04:20:43.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: national elections. In particular, asr-002979 04:20:43.640 --> 04:20:45.300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the Commission has set asr-002980 04:20:45.300 --> 04:20:47.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: a goal to increase the number asr-002981 04:20:47.420 --> 04:20:49.080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of registered voters from asr-002982 04:20:49.080 --> 04:20:50.940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 1.2 million to asr-002983 04:20:50.940 --> 04:20:53.100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2 million before the asr-002984 04:20:53.100 --> 04:20:54.800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2028 national elections. asr-002985 04:20:55.380 --> 04:20:57.220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, September 2026 na. asr-002986 04:20:57.580 --> 04:20:59.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maaari po ba nating malaman mula sa ating asr-002987 04:20:59.980 --> 04:21:00.820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: distinguished sponsor kung asr-002988 04:21:00.820 --> 04:21:03.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ilang mga Pilipino na ang nadagdag asr-002989 04:21:03.160 --> 04:21:04.940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga asr-002990 04:21:04.940 --> 04:21:06.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: registered voters? asr-002991 04:21:06.720 --> 04:21:08.300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maaari po ba nating maihiwalay asr-002992 04:21:08.300 --> 04:21:11.080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung ilan dito ang mga overseas asr-002993 04:21:11.080 --> 04:21:12.220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Filipino voters? asr-002994 04:21:26.280 --> 04:21:26.980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now po, ang number of asr-002995 04:21:26.980 --> 04:21:29.040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: registered asr-002996 04:21:29.040 --> 04:21:30.500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: overseas voters asr-002997 04:21:30.500 --> 04:21:33.100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: as of August 12, 2026 asr-002998 04:21:33.100 --> 04:21:33.980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is about asr-002999 04:21:33.980 --> 04:21:37.440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 1,014,701 asr-003000 04:21:37.440 --> 04:21:38.200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: voters. asr-003001 04:21:38.860 --> 04:21:39.660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker. asr-003002 04:21:40.520 --> 04:21:41.400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hopefully po asr-003003 04:21:41.580 --> 04:21:42.060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: madagdagan po ito asr-003004 04:21:42.060 --> 04:21:45.120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng mga 500,000 asr-003005 04:21:45.120 --> 04:21:48.080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: before the next asr-003006 04:21:48.080 --> 04:21:49.220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: national and local election. asr-003007 04:21:49.940 --> 04:21:50.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, asr-003008 04:21:51.080 --> 04:21:52.780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakita rin natin na merong asr-003009 04:21:52.780 --> 04:21:54.340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: malaking pagbawas yung asr-003010 04:21:54.340 --> 04:21:56.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pondo pagdating asr-003011 04:21:56.520 --> 04:21:59.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa voters information and education asr-003012 04:21:59.260 --> 04:22:00.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: program. At nababahala asr-003013 04:22:00.420 --> 04:22:02.380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po tayo dahil nang asr-003014 04:22:02.380 --> 04:22:04.940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: humarap dito ang Department of Foreign Affairs, asr-003015 04:22:04.940 --> 04:22:06.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasabi po nila na asr-003016 04:22:06.260 --> 04:22:07.580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang isa sa mga hamon asr-003017 04:22:07.580 --> 04:22:11.100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa paglulunsad din nila ng overseas voting asr-003018 04:22:11.100 --> 04:22:11.340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: registration ay yung asr-003019 04:22:11.340 --> 04:22:11.860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kakulangan ng awareness asr-003020 04:22:12.060 --> 04:22:15.640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating mga kababayan asr-003021 04:22:15.640 --> 04:22:16.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nagtatrabaho asr-003022 04:22:16.980 --> 04:22:18.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o kaya naman ay asr-003023 04:22:18.440 --> 04:22:20.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: naninirahan na overseas. asr-003024 04:22:21.360 --> 04:22:21.820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At tungkol doon sa asr-003025 04:22:21.820 --> 04:22:24.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi lang po registration asr-003026 04:22:24.260 --> 04:22:26.280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kundi pati doon sa asr-003027 04:22:26.280 --> 04:22:29.140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bagong online voting system asr-003028 04:22:29.140 --> 04:22:31.140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mangangailangan ng enrollment. asr-003029 04:22:31.580 --> 04:22:33.100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maaari po ba nating malaman asr-003030 04:22:33.100 --> 04:22:35.300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung pinag-aaralan ng Comelec asr-003031 04:22:35.300 --> 04:22:36.080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung babaguhin ba asr-003032 04:22:36.080 --> 04:22:37.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang proseso na ito? asr-003033 04:22:37.740 --> 04:22:38.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maaari po ba asr-003034 04:22:38.660 --> 04:22:51.320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kapag nag-register ka ay automatic na rin po na enrolled ang ating mga kababayan doon sa bagong sistema na ginagamit ngayon para sa overseas voting? asr-003047 04:22:51.320 --> 04:23:18.420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, pinag-aaralan po ng ating komisyon yung suggestion po ng ating kasamahan na kapag nagka-register ka, naka-enroll na rin po. So marami pong activities ang ginagawa po ng Comelec para po asr-003048 04:23:18.660 --> 04:23:28.720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mas mapaigting at mapadami po yung overseas registration para po sa ating Comelec. Nagsasagawa po sila ng iba?t ibang town hall meetings, lalo na po sa ating mga Filipino community leaders. asr-003049 04:23:28.720 --> 04:23:37.820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero dadagdagan pa po nila ng voters education on the full process po, lalo na po ng ating online voting na isinasagawa asr-003050 04:23:37.820 --> 04:23:42.200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po sa convenience po ng ating mga kababayan abroad. asr-003051 04:23:42.820 --> 04:23:46.860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May mga mock voting na rin po silang planong gawin and system demos. asr-003052 04:23:47.860 --> 04:24:01.060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pati mas madaling enrollment po sa kanila at help desk and feedback channels na pwedeng matawagan o mapagsabihan po ng ating mga kababayan abroad asr-003053 04:24:01.060 --> 04:24:04.620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: through Komelec DFA and community partners. asr-003054 04:24:05.340 --> 04:24:07.780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So nakalatag na rin po ang asr-003055 04:24:07.820 --> 04:24:12.540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga plano ng komisyon para po mas mapaigting po yung ating registration sa overseas. asr-003056 04:24:13.820 --> 04:24:22.740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat Mr. Speaker at magandang balita po na halimbawa meron po pakikipagtulungan sa OWA, sa Marina, sa DMW asr-003057 04:24:22.740 --> 04:24:29.620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po bago umalis ang ating mga kababayang OFWs ay meron na silang gagawing registration asr-003058 04:24:29.620 --> 04:24:35.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kumaari nga ay maisama na rin yung enrollment para isahan na lang po na matatapos ito. asr-003059 04:24:35.520 --> 04:24:37.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At atin pong aabala. asr-003060 04:24:37.820 --> 04:24:43.080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang mga kababayan ang ginagawang pag-aaral ng Komelec kung paano matitiyak na hindi lang mapapabilis asr-003061 04:24:43.080 --> 04:24:54.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngunit matitiyak na yung mga kababayan natin na registered na ay enrolled na rin dun sa bagong sistema na gagamitin para sa susunod na eleksyon. asr-003062 04:24:54.740 --> 04:25:02.460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil Mr. Speaker, na ibalita rin sa atin ang Komelec noong budget briefing na para sa 2028 national elections, asr-003063 04:25:02.460 --> 04:25:07.460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: internet voting na ang gagamitin sa 104 na post. asr-003064 04:25:07.820 --> 04:25:21.700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang ibig sabihin po ba nito ay fully online voting na po ang ating gagamitin at hindi na po by post or in-person voting ang mangyayari para sa susunod na eleksyon? asr-003065 04:25:34.000 --> 04:25:45.990 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, fully online na po ang gagamitin po ng ating komisyon for the 2028 elections. asr-003066 04:25:45.990 --> 04:26:07.800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, hindi po ba tayo nababahala doon sa mga concerns na dahil bago pa lang po ang ating sistema, marahil kinakailangan pa ng mas maraming oras para sa mas malawak na information and education effort para malaman ng ating mga kababayan na asr-003067 04:26:07.800 --> 04:26:11.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 100% ang gagamitin na po natin ay online voting. asr-003068 04:26:12.100 --> 04:26:27.060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Marami pa pong mga concerns tungkol dun sa nabanggit ko na tila ba second process ng registration yung enrollment process na kailangan pang pagdaanan ng ating mga kababayan. asr-003069 04:26:27.060 --> 04:26:35.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po sa ngayon, yung pondo po na naibigay sa atin na nakalakip sa General Appropriations Bill para sa 2027, asr-003070 04:26:36.220 --> 04:26:37.780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makukover po ba nito lahat? asr-003071 04:26:37.800 --> 04:26:53.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ng mga nais nating maabot sa ibang bansa, may it be through satellite registration overseas or through our collaboration with other agencies to reach more Filipinos overseas. asr-003072 04:26:54.240 --> 04:27:06.020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, kulang po yung naibigay na budget para po sa ating Comelec regarding voters education with regard sa online voting po. asr-003073 04:27:06.020 --> 04:27:14.520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang gusto po sana ng Komelec ay full process ang ma-inform po sa ating mga kababayan abroad. asr-003074 04:27:15.100 --> 04:27:18.700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Maalaman po nila kung paano po gamitin talaga ang online voting. asr-003075 04:27:19.280 --> 04:27:25.620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: At sa ngayon po, yung online voting and counting system naman po ay nagsasagwa pa rin po ng TOR. asr-003076 04:27:26.120 --> 04:27:34.200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mas gusto pa rin po ng komisyon na maging user-friendly po para po sa ating mga kababayan abroad para po sa convenience nila sa pagboto. asr-003077 04:27:34.200 --> 04:27:36.000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, may mga refinement po. asr-003078 04:27:36.020 --> 04:27:44.900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang ginagawa sa ating online voting para po ba sigurado yung boto at yung pangamba po ng ating mga kababayan abroad ay mawala po. asr-003079 04:27:46.240 --> 04:27:59.280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, tayo po ay nanghingi na rin ng assessment ng Komelec tungkol sa paggamit ng bagong online voting system na ito na ginamit sa una pagkakataon dito ng 2025 asr-003080 04:27:59.280 --> 04:28:05.300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at gagamitin muli sa mas maraming jurisdiction sa susunod na national elections. asr-003081 04:28:05.300 --> 04:28:09.620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yan po ang aabangan natin mula sa ating distinguished sponsor at sa ating komisyon. asr-003082 04:28:10.680 --> 04:28:19.180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pangalawa, meron din mga panukalang batas na sa ngayon ay subject na ng deliberation dito sa House of Representatives asr-003083 04:28:19.180 --> 04:28:29.700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol naman sa pagkakaroon ng iba't iba pa rin na modalities pagdating sa pagboto at pagtitiyak ng pagbilang ng boto ng ating mga kababayan. asr-003084 04:28:29.700 --> 04:28:34.700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na habang may option para sa online voting ay meron pa rin opsyon. asr-003085 04:28:35.300 --> 04:28:41.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: By post or in person kung ano ang pinakaabot kamay sa ating mga kababayan. asr-003086 04:28:42.260 --> 04:28:50.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lahat po yan para sa interes ng pagtitiyak ng kanilang karapatan sa pagboto, ng karapatan sa pagpili ng kanilang mga susunod na leader, asr-003087 04:28:51.360 --> 04:28:54.880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating mga susunod na mamumuno sa ating bayan. asr-003088 04:28:55.240 --> 04:29:03.760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po, nais kong magtanong, ginoong Speaker, tungkol sa katatapos na makasaysayang BARMM elections. asr-003089 04:29:05.300 --> 04:29:18.360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang mga katanungan po ng kinatawan na ito ay tungkol sa katatapos lamang na barm parliamentary elections noong September 14, 2026. asr-003090 04:29:18.360 --> 04:29:34.360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ito po ay batay sa mga tanong, sa mga obserbasyon ng mga grupo ng iba't ibang civil society organizations na accredited ng COMELEC bilang local observers sa nasabing parliamentary election. asr-003091 04:29:35.300 --> 04:29:47.300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Una po, ano po ang naging aksyon ng COMELEC na kaugnay ng mga ulat mula po sa ilang mga lugar na merong mga botante na nagsabi, nagulat, asr-003092 04:29:47.600 --> 04:30:00.040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hindi sila nakaboto dahil ang kanilang mga balota ay di umano'y pre-shaded na o mayroon ng mga nakamarkang mga pangalan ng kandidato bago pa po nila ito matanggap. asr-003093 04:30:00.000 --> 04:30:12.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Gaano ba kalawak ang mga ulat na ito? Nadinig na po ba ito ng COMELEC? At may sinasagawa na po ba sa ngayon na investigation para matiyak ang katotohanan sa mga ulat na ito? asr-003094 04:30:13.480 --> 04:30:24.680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yung regarding po, specifically yung sa Maluso, Basilan, nagkaroon po ng pre-shading po ng ballots. asr-003095 04:30:24.680 --> 04:30:36.840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang naka-discovery po ng pre-shading rin po na yan ay COMELEC. So ang naging action po ng ating buting komisyon ay ma-recall po yung mga pre-shaded na ballots. asr-003096 04:30:36.840 --> 04:30:52.740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: At kinaalam na po, well may sampina na rin po lahat po ng posibleng nagtamper po dito po sa mga balotang ito based on sa chain of custody. asr-003097 04:30:53.680 --> 04:30:54.640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ng mga balotang. asr-003098 04:30:54.680 --> 04:31:06.460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ng mga balotang ito, actually kahapon po inilabas yung sampina po para po dito sa mga posibleng malagot po sa pre-shading po ng ballots. Mr. Speaker. asr-003099 04:31:06.700 --> 04:31:24.460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, maari po bang magbigay ng espesipikong bilang ang ating distinguished sponsor kung gano po karami itong mga natanggap na mga reports na sa ngayon ay dumadaan na sa proseso ng verifikasyon at investigasyon ng ating... asr-003100 04:31:24.680 --> 04:31:26.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Commission on Elections. asr-003101 04:31:28.820 --> 04:31:47.900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, based on sa mga reports po na sinasabi po ng ating buting kasamahan, more or less 10 reports po yung bine-verify nila regarding this matter sa mga insidente po sa Bangsamoro Elections. asr-003102 04:31:48.740 --> 04:31:53.900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, kung meron na pong initial na report, ukol dito ang... asr-003103 04:31:54.680 --> 04:31:59.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Paari pong maisumite na lang sa ating Committee on Appropriations. asr-003104 04:32:00.500 --> 04:32:08.080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nais ko pong magtanong, paano po ba natin matitiyak o ano yung ating mga hakbang para matiyak? asr-003105 04:32:08.540 --> 04:32:16.120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Halimbawa yung transparency sa proseso ng pag-uulat ng ganitong tipo ng mga kaso. asr-003106 04:32:16.120 --> 04:32:23.120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po ba silang timely na updating doon sa mga side ng mga... asr-003107 04:32:24.680 --> 04:32:33.680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mahapag o naghahain ng kanilang mga complaint upang matiyak na agarang naaaksyonan ang ganitong tipo ng mga ulat? asr-003108 04:32:33.680 --> 04:32:54.220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, na Commission ensures na open po sila sa mga ganitong updates po regarding po sa iba't ibang kaso. asr-003109 04:32:54.680 --> 04:33:01.620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, ang gusto po nila, pag may mga insidente na kailangan po ma-report po sa ating Commission, asr-003110 04:33:01.940 --> 04:33:10.420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: at least, paisabi po, ma-inform po sila para po immediately magawan po nila ng aksyon kung ano po yung nararapat, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague. asr-003111 04:33:11.060 --> 04:33:21.680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, Mr. Speaker, tungkol naman po sa ulat rin ng malaking deployment ng military and uniformed personnel sa ilang mga lugar sa BARM noong panahon ng halalan, asr-003112 04:33:22.520 --> 04:33:24.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ano po ba ang naging batayan at layunan? asr-003113 04:33:24.680 --> 04:33:47.340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At paano po tinitiyak ng COMELEC na ang presensya halimbawa ng military uniformed personnel o ng mga security forces ay hindi po nakakalikha ng anumang tipo ng pagbabanta o nantakot sa mga botante at hindi nakakaapekto sa malayang pagboto ng ating mga kababayan? asr-003114 04:33:47.980 --> 04:33:52.320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, asr-003115 04:33:53.060 --> 04:33:54.660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: more on yung focus po ng ating pong COMELEC, asr-003116 04:33:54.680 --> 04:34:05.120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: during the BARM is yung mga red category areas, yung mga areas na may historical basis ng violence rin po during elections. asr-003117 04:34:06.080 --> 04:34:20.320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang kasigurahan lang po siguro ang mapapakita po na mapayapang nakaboto yung ating pong mga kababayan po mula sa BARM is dahil 84% po ang turnout ng voting sa ating pong Bangsamoro. asr-003118 04:34:22.060 --> 04:34:23.920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Dahil po doon sa ganong data, asr-003119 04:34:24.680 --> 04:34:35.860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ito po ang napapakita ng data na ito is malaking tulong po yung ating pong kapulisan sa malayang pagboto po ng ating pong mga kababayan sa BARM. asr-003120 04:34:36.160 --> 04:34:37.880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague. asr-003121 04:34:39.020 --> 04:34:54.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, higit po nating pag-aaralan ang isusumiteng initial report ng Comelec tungkol dito upang matiyak po natin ang interes ng malayang pagboto at ang pagkakaroon ng halalan na asr-003122 04:34:54.680 --> 04:35:24.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pantay, na patas at malinis po sa lahat ng mga naghahangad na ito ay buong-buong magtagumpay. Ngayon naman po, tungkol naman sa hindi lang po hiling pero panawagan ng representasyong ito, at nawa?y makasama natin dito ang distinguished sponsor. Napakalaki ho ng budget cut para sa programa na may kinalaman sa online voting para po sa ating mga asr-003123 04:35:24.660 --> 04:35:54.640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: overseas na voters. Gayundin po, napakababa ng pondo para sa voter information and education program. Ito po yung mga programa na magtitiyak ng tagumpay ng halalan ay hindi po nakadepende lang sa Comelec. Pero magtitiyak na yung tao mismo, ang ating mga kababayan mismo, ay nakakaalam kung paano sila magbabantay at kung paano sila kasama sa pagtitiyak ng asr-003124 04:35:54.640 --> 04:36:00.880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: karapatan sa pagboto at kung paano rin sila kasama sa pagtataguyod ng tunay na demokrasya dito sa ating bansa. asr-003125 04:36:00.880 --> 04:36:23.600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sana po makasama natin ang distinguished sponsor sa panawagan na ma-restore sa 2026 level ang mga programang ito kung hindi man madagdagan para makahabol po tayo sa target na mas maraming registered voters para sa susunod na halalan. Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker. Maraming salamat, distinguished sponsor. asr-003126 04:36:23.600 --> 04:36:40.560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Maraming salamat sa comment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, at thank you to our colleague na sumusuporta po sa madagdagan pa yung mga budget na nawala po sa ating komisyon. And we will submit po lahat po ng hinihinging impormasyon ng ating kasamahan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-003127 04:36:40.560 --> 04:36:42.200 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you. Majority Leader. asr-003128 04:36:42.200 --> 04:36:49.280 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Sergio Dagooc of APEC Party-list. asr-003129 04:36:49.280 --> 04:36:53.920 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Dagooc is recognized. Please proceed. asr-003130 04:36:53.920 --> 04:37:17.240 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Majority Leader. Mr. Speaker, there being no other members from the minority who wanted to interpellate, I move to terminate the period of interpellation and debate on the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections for fiscal year 2027. Mr. Speaker, thank you very much. asr-003131 04:37:17.240 --> 04:37:18.480 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: What does the House say? asr-003132 04:37:18.480 --> 04:37:27.960 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections. asr-003133 04:37:27.960 --> 04:37:42.800 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections. Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The interpellations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections are hereby terminated. asr-003134 04:37:42.800 --> 04:37:44.480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-003135 04:37:44.480 --> 04:37:45.210 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. asr-003136 04:37:45.210 --> 04:37:47.720 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes. asr-003137 04:37:47.720 --> 04:37:48.560 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Session suspended. asr-003139 04:41:03.600 --> 04:41:05.880 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. asr-003140 04:41:05.880 --> 04:41:08.640 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move that we now consider asr-003141 04:41:08.640 --> 04:41:11.760 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: the proposed budget of the Anti-Red Tape Authority. asr-003142 04:41:11.760 --> 04:41:13.600 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Is there any objection? asr-003143 04:41:13.600 --> 04:41:14.880 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: The Chair hears none. Motion is approved. asr-003144 04:41:14.880 --> 04:41:16.240 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. asr-003145 04:41:16.240 --> 04:41:21.820 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials of the Anti-Red Tape Authority. asr-003146 04:41:22.440 --> 04:41:39.480 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: They are Director General Ernesto Perez, Deputy Director General Lea Salcedo, Deputy Director General Rocco Jod, Echeverry, Deputy Director General Pua Billy Racho. asr-003147 04:41:39.480 --> 04:41:48.820 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials from the Anti-Red Tape Authority, headed by Director General Perez. asr-003148 04:41:49.260 --> 04:41:51.960 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader. asr-003149 04:41:53.000 --> 04:42:02.160 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I now move to recognize Representative Isabel L. Sagarbarria of the Second District of Negros Occidental, asr-003150 04:42:02.400 --> 04:42:10.480 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to answer questions on the proposed budget of the Anti-Red Tape Authority. asr-003151 04:42:10.480 --> 04:42:13.180 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Sagarbarria is recognized. Please proceed. asr-003152 04:42:14.820 --> 04:42:22.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, it is my honor and privilege to sponsor the proposed budget of the Anti- asr-003153 04:42:39.480 --> 04:42:55.140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Sorry, of the Anti-Money Laundering Council, of the Anti-Red Tape Authority, under the House Bill number 10858, asr-003154 04:42:55.140 --> 04:43:08.120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: or the Fiscal Year 2027 General Appropriations Bill, amounting to P436,720,000, since its establishment pursuant to Republic Act number 11032, asr-003155 04:43:08.120 --> 04:43:10.560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: or the Ease of Doing Business asr-003157 04:43:10.560 --> 04:43:13.660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and Efficient Government Service Delivery Act of 2018, asr-003158 04:43:14.560 --> 04:43:19.240 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTA has placed a significant role in reducing regulatory burdens, asr-003159 04:43:19.840 --> 04:43:21.520 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: streamlining government processes, asr-003160 04:43:22.100 --> 04:43:27.120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and encouraging government agencies to adopt more efficient and digitalized systems. asr-003161 04:43:27.900 --> 04:43:32.400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In just 80 years, ARTA has become a vital institution in our bureaucracy, asr-003162 04:43:33.280 --> 04:43:36.060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: delivering reforms that simplify processes, asr-003163 04:43:36.060 --> 04:43:40.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: reduce red tape, and strengthen public trust in government. asr-003164 04:43:41.260 --> 04:43:47.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The proposed budget of ARTA aims to ensure that the authority continues to function effectively, asr-003165 04:43:48.220 --> 04:43:53.220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: uphold reforms, and deliver on its mandate to make government services more efficient, asr-003166 04:43:53.860 --> 04:43:56.020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: transparent, and citizen-oriented. asr-003167 04:43:56.980 --> 04:44:02.060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Its proposed initiatives, including the enhancement of the digital platforms, asr-003168 04:44:02.060 --> 04:44:06.040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the Philippine-based regulation information system, asr-003169 04:44:06.600 --> 04:44:08.200 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: electronic complaints management, asr-003170 04:44:08.840 --> 04:44:14.020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and other digital-based programs are directed toward making government transactions asr-003171 04:44:14.020 --> 04:44:18.820 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: more accessible, transparent, and efficient for the Filipino people. asr-003172 04:44:19.760 --> 04:44:24.080 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: When we strengthen the ARTA anti-red tape authority, asr-003173 04:44:24.700 --> 04:44:26.440 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: we strengthen the government itself. asr-003174 04:44:26.680 --> 04:44:33.480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: To empower ARTA is to empower the entire bureaucracy to serve with speed, fairness, and integrity. asr-003175 04:44:34.540 --> 04:44:35.380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Let us remember, asr-003176 04:44:36.060 --> 04:44:39.560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: a government that defeats red tape is a government that delivers. asr-003177 04:44:40.300 --> 04:44:44.080 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The government that delivers is a government that earns trust. asr-003178 04:44:44.820 --> 04:44:48.700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The government that earns trust is a government that truly serves its people. asr-003179 04:44:49.600 --> 04:44:50.960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In view of the foregoing, asr-003180 04:44:51.640 --> 04:44:54.500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: I respectfully seek the support of this honorable house asr-003181 04:44:54.500 --> 04:44:59.640 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the anti-red tape authority. asr-003182 04:45:00.000 --> 04:45:06.400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This representation is now ready to answer questions from our colleagues. asr-003183 04:45:07.200 --> 04:45:08.620 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader? asr-003184 04:45:09.140 --> 04:45:20.760 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I now move to recognize Representative Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of Party List 4K to interpolate the sponsor on the proposed budget of the anti-red tape. asr-003185 04:45:21.500 --> 04:45:25.880 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Iris Marie de Mesa Montes is recognized. Please proceed. asr-003186 04:45:25.880 --> 04:45:31.860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Magandang hapon po, Distinguished Sponsor and to the ARTA. asr-003187 04:45:32.820 --> 04:45:38.920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ilang katanungan lamang po mula sa Kababaihan Kabalikatan para sa Kapakanan at Kaunlaran ng Bayan or 4K. asr-003188 04:45:40.620 --> 04:45:52.160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Una po, your budget, proposed budget for 2027 of 537 million is slightly higher than the current budget, mga around 14 million. Tama po ba? asr-003189 04:45:54.160 --> 04:45:55.320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang itinaas. asr-003190 04:45:55.880 --> 04:46:06.860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Based on the current year's budget, budget for 2027 is sufficient to perform your mandate of reducing red tape in government. asr-003191 04:46:10.820 --> 04:46:13.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: No. No, it is not, no. asr-003192 04:46:15.440 --> 04:46:21.520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ano po, what programs will be affected given this decrease in budget specifically? asr-003193 04:46:24.160 --> 04:46:25.860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: What programs will be affected? asr-003194 04:46:25.860 --> 04:46:34.080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: What programs will be affected will not be funded, what processes will be compromised, what activities? asr-003195 04:46:42.800 --> 04:46:43.640 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay. asr-003196 04:46:44.080 --> 04:46:52.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: This reduction runs contrary to ARTA's direction of expanding its reach and strengthening the implementation, Republic of 11032. asr-003197 04:46:52.900 --> 04:46:55.840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The proposed cut will constrain ARTA's capacity to assist the government. asr-003198 04:46:55.860 --> 04:47:05.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The proposed cut will constrain ARTA's capacity to assist and capacitate government agencies in complying with the law directly affecting its mandate to reduce, if not eliminate, red tape in government services. asr-003199 04:47:06.040 --> 04:47:15.760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It will also delay ongoing systems development intended to speed up complaints handling, improve data gathering, and strengthen database security and management. asr-003200 04:47:16.760 --> 04:47:25.120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Our regional field offices, we likewise have to scale back orientation and inspection activities because of reduced funding for travel, asr-003201 04:47:25.120 --> 04:47:29.860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: fuel, supplies, training, and other operational requirements. asr-003202 04:47:30.300 --> 04:47:36.380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, these resources needed to translate the law into actual improvements in government services. asr-003203 04:47:37.040 --> 04:47:41.940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Reducing them will limit ARTA's ability to deliver the reforms expected of it. asr-003204 04:47:42.580 --> 04:47:43.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-003205 04:47:45.660 --> 04:47:53.280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Regarding po sa citizen complaints, how many complaints about red tape did ARTA receive last year for 2025? asr-003206 04:47:53.280 --> 04:47:54.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Given the total. asr-003207 04:47:55.120 --> 04:47:58.580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ilan po ang na-resolve within the mandated timeline? asr-003208 04:48:01.040 --> 04:48:07.760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, as of 2026, the total cases received was 12,335. asr-003209 04:48:08.760 --> 04:48:19.880 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And the resolved cases within the turnaround time is 11,208, which is 90.86%. asr-003210 04:48:19.880 --> 04:48:22.400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mataas po yung resolution rate. asr-003211 04:48:23.200 --> 04:48:24.400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung saka-sakali, asr-003212 04:48:25.120 --> 04:48:29.100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ano man po, ano yung mga five agencies that received the most complaints? asr-003213 04:48:29.560 --> 04:48:31.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Can you name the top five agencies? asr-003214 04:48:38.700 --> 04:48:39.260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay. asr-003215 04:48:39.260 --> 04:48:47.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The ten most complained government-owned and controlled corporations from January 2, August 31, 2026 asr-003216 04:48:47.460 --> 04:48:52.280 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: are the Home Development Mutual Fund, Pag-IBIG, which is the highest, asr-003217 04:48:52.280 --> 04:49:03.060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Social Security System, GSIS, PhilHealth, Land Bank of the Philippines, PhilPost, asr-003218 04:49:04.120 --> 04:49:11.860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: National Transmission Corporation, Transco, NFA, Intellectual Property Office, asr-003219 04:49:12.980 --> 04:49:16.440 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Tourism Infrastructure and Enterprise Zone Authority. asr-003220 04:49:17.140 --> 04:49:21.440 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: These are the ten most complained government-owned and controlled corporations. asr-003221 04:49:22.280 --> 04:49:26.140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And then for the national government agencies, asr-003222 04:49:26.900 --> 04:49:31.960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: we have the LTO, BIR, Food and Drug Administration, asr-003223 04:49:33.060 --> 04:49:37.960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Philippine Statistics Authority, National Telecommunications Commission, asr-003224 04:49:38.840 --> 04:49:44.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Department of Education, Land Registration Authority, Register of Deeds, asr-003225 04:49:45.100 --> 04:49:51.180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Professional Regulation Commission, PRC, Department of Human Settlement and Urban Development, asr-003226 04:49:51.180 --> 04:49:52.180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and the Department of Education. asr-003227 04:49:52.280 --> 04:50:14.020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For local government, we have the government of Quezon City, of Taguig, of Caloocan, of Pasig, Paranaque, Malolos, Manila, San Jose del Monte, Makati, Muntinlupa, and Avao City. asr-003228 04:50:14.640 --> 04:50:16.000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Those are all, Mr. Chair. asr-003229 04:50:16.000 --> 04:50:17.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. asr-003230 04:50:17.700 --> 04:50:29.340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, lahat po ba, have all agencies already established a public assistance and complaint desk or your ARTA help desk? asr-003231 04:50:30.280 --> 04:50:37.360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And is it also properly staffed to handle walk-in complaints, increase in feedback? asr-003232 04:50:38.360 --> 04:50:44.020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, lahat na po, ano pong porsyento ng mga opisinang meron ng ARTA help desk? asr-003233 04:50:44.400 --> 04:50:45.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-003234 04:50:45.320 --> 04:50:47.340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, lahat na po meron? asr-003235 04:50:48.240 --> 04:50:52.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Minsan po kasi, Mr. Speaker, I've had this experience just last year. asr-003236 04:50:52.940 --> 04:51:02.720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: In one of the agencies that you mentioned, sa mga nasa top 10, meron po silang ARTA help desk, pero wala pong personnel. asr-003237 04:51:03.480 --> 04:51:09.840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, yung personnel po, diba, the agency is mandated, sila po dapat ang magpo-provide ng personnel, tama? asr-003238 04:51:10.280 --> 04:51:11.720 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, the agency, not the ARTA. asr-003239 04:51:11.720 --> 04:51:17.540 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, how does ARTA check kung totoo yung mga help desk na yun ay properly manned talaga? asr-003240 04:51:17.700 --> 04:51:27.320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Because they can always say, yung agency na yan or office na yan has established a help desk, but wala din pong tao yung help desk. asr-003241 04:51:33.000 --> 04:51:35.640 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yeah, I hear your frustration. asr-003242 04:51:36.240 --> 04:51:42.880 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, it's supposed to be under the law, agencies are all required to establish this ACD. asr-003243 04:51:45.600 --> 04:51:47.040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Chair. asr-003244 04:51:47.700 --> 04:51:59.040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung tanong ko po, Sana, how do you ensure, meron bang routine inspection na ginagawa ang ARTA to ensure that hindi lang help desk kang nandodon? asr-003245 04:51:59.240 --> 04:52:03.680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Dapat po talaga may tao the whole day to receive complaints? asr-003246 04:52:04.480 --> 04:52:13.860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, we have a compliance inspection and I'm sorry of what had happened. asr-003247 04:52:14.980 --> 04:52:17.400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Definitely, in the future, they will be doing that. asr-003248 04:52:17.700 --> 04:52:19.420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. asr-003249 04:52:20.680 --> 04:52:26.240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Also, have all agencies established the Committee on Anti-Red Tape or yung CART? asr-003250 04:52:26.580 --> 04:52:29.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Lahat din po ba meron ng CART sa lahat ng opisina? asr-003251 04:52:30.400 --> 04:52:36.840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ito po yung nag-I understand, yung nag-o-oversee po ng compliance with ARTA rules in each agency. asr-003252 04:52:37.460 --> 04:52:40.960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And if, actually, if they're not compliant, they will be liable. asr-003253 04:52:40.960 --> 04:52:49.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: As of the present, the compliance rate is 70%. asr-003254 04:52:49.900 --> 04:52:57.460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ah, 70%. So, ano pa pong agency? So, madami-dami pa pong walang CART sa mga agencies nila. asr-003255 04:52:58.720 --> 04:53:05.460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, what will we do in order to force them to establish the CART? asr-003256 04:53:05.460 --> 04:53:10.280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Because it is a mandate under the ease of doing business law. asr-003257 04:53:10.960 --> 04:53:21.440 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: They will be issued notices to explain. asr-003258 04:53:22.640 --> 04:53:25.320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Madam Sponsor. asr-003259 04:53:26.180 --> 04:53:30.720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Meron na rin po ba, lahat din po bang agencies, meron ng Citizens Charter? asr-003260 04:53:33.580 --> 04:53:35.580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-003261 04:53:35.580 --> 04:53:37.580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Have we issued... asr-003262 04:53:38.240 --> 04:53:40.800 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 98% compliance. asr-003263 04:53:40.960 --> 04:53:42.020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: 98%. asr-003264 04:53:42.020 --> 04:53:49.460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Have we ensured that of this 98% to have complied with the Citizens Charter requirement, asr-003265 04:53:49.900 --> 04:53:53.020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ay talaga pong sinusunod yung Citizens Charter? asr-003266 04:53:53.280 --> 04:53:55.760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi pwede rin pong compliance lang. asr-003267 04:53:55.900 --> 04:54:01.660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, how can ARTA find out? Do we find out which ones are just complying asr-003268 04:54:01.660 --> 04:54:05.740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: or which ones are following the Citizens Charter to the letter? asr-003269 04:54:05.740 --> 04:54:05.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you. asr-003270 04:54:10.960 --> 04:54:22.160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We require them to submit annual updating of the compliance. asr-003271 04:54:23.100 --> 04:54:24.180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, Mr. Chair. asr-003272 04:54:24.200 --> 04:54:25.740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We conduct inspection also. asr-003273 04:54:25.780 --> 04:54:31.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Sponsor, pagdating naman po sa mga investigations and cases, asr-003274 04:54:31.220 --> 04:54:40.520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: how many show cause orders or cases were initiated against agencies or airing officials that violated the ease of doing business law? asr-003276 04:54:46.800 --> 04:54:47.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay. asr-003277 04:54:48.300 --> 04:54:53.160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTA investigated a total of 600 cases, Mr. Chair. asr-003278 04:54:53.300 --> 04:55:01.480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: May mga naparusahan na po ba dito, na-file-an na ng mga kaso, katulad po ng mga airing officials? asr-003279 04:55:01.800 --> 04:55:06.120 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nag-translate na po ba yan sa tinatawag nating accountabilities? asr-003280 04:55:06.120 --> 04:55:07.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-003281 04:55:07.360 --> 04:55:08.760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We were able to asr-003282 04:55:08.760 --> 04:55:11.220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: reach out to 373 asr-003283 04:55:11.220 --> 04:55:12.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: total cases filed. asr-003284 04:55:13.640 --> 04:55:16.200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Madam Sponsor. asr-003285 04:55:17.460 --> 04:55:20.160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasama po sa mandato, di ba po ng ARTA, asr-003286 04:55:20.300 --> 04:55:23.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: you can recommend to the agencies, no? asr-003287 04:55:24.040 --> 04:55:26.280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pag nakita niyong may mali sa proseso, asr-003288 04:55:26.440 --> 04:55:28.280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa sistema, napakatagal, asr-003289 04:55:28.380 --> 04:55:31.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: so you recommend, may recommendations kayong binibigay. asr-003290 04:55:32.140 --> 04:55:35.980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ilan na po ang agencies na nabigyan ninyo ng rekomendasyon asr-003291 04:55:35.980 --> 04:55:40.960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at ilan ang actual na sumunod po doon sa rekomendasyon ninyo? asr-003292 04:56:03.400 --> 04:56:05.960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: There's a whole of government reengineering systems asr-003293 04:56:05.980 --> 04:56:08.780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and procedures that are being done. asr-003294 04:56:10.420 --> 04:56:13.280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Madam Sponsor. asr-003295 04:56:14.160 --> 04:56:18.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ilan na po, how many procedures were actually simplified ng ARTA asr-003296 04:56:18.820 --> 04:56:21.440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: since its establishment? asr-003297 04:56:35.980 --> 04:56:44.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay, for the TELCO, asr-003298 04:56:45.240 --> 04:56:49.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: required permits were reduced from 13 to 8, asr-003299 04:56:50.380 --> 04:56:53.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and then documentary requirements reduced from 86 to 35. asr-003300 04:56:55.100 --> 04:56:59.560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Processing time shortened from 241 days to 16 days. asr-003301 04:57:01.220 --> 04:57:05.960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Approved telecommunications permit applications increased from 6,117 asr-003302 04:57:05.980 --> 04:57:12.680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to 10,465 as of June 2026. asr-003303 04:57:13.460 --> 04:57:24.220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Fixed internet download speed improved from 93.96 Mbps to 102.79 Mbps for December 2025. asr-003304 04:57:25.220 --> 04:57:26.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. asr-003305 04:57:26.660 --> 04:57:31.520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung parang reason for existence ng ARTA is very simple, di ba? asr-003306 04:57:31.520 --> 04:57:35.340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: To simplify, to bureaucrat, asr-003307 04:57:35.340 --> 04:57:37.860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: to reduce bureaucratic red tape. asr-003308 04:57:38.080 --> 04:57:42.020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: In other words, parang pag-aanin ang buhay ng mga Pilipino asr-003309 04:57:42.020 --> 04:57:45.320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: pag nakikipag-transact po sa mga opisina ng gobyerno. asr-003310 04:57:45.620 --> 04:57:47.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Paano po natin? How do we measure din? asr-003311 04:57:48.200 --> 04:57:53.880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ito, paano po natin nasusukat kung talagang naging effective yung ARTA sa trabaho nila? asr-003312 04:57:53.880 --> 04:58:01.860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Does that manifest in the cases being filed every year ba? asr-003313 04:58:01.960 --> 04:58:05.320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Bumaba ba? Does that mean konti na lang? asr-003314 04:58:05.340 --> 04:58:11.200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang mga dissatisfied sa transaction sa gobyerno? asr-003315 04:58:23.320 --> 04:58:32.000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We have a report card survey which serves as ARTA's mechanism for assessing compliance with the citizen's charter asr-003316 04:58:32.000 --> 04:58:34.000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and the service delivery requirements. asr-003317 04:58:35.340 --> 04:58:42.160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Using feedback from actual clients to evaluate efficiency, transparency and overall service performance. asr-003318 04:58:42.160 --> 04:58:46.960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Through random sampling and validation of agency compliance reports, asr-003319 04:58:47.280 --> 04:58:54.740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the report card survey identifies areas for improvement and supports evidence-based reforms asr-003320 04:58:54.740 --> 04:58:59.740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: that help reduce red tape and enhance government services. asr-003321 04:58:59.740 --> 04:59:04.680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We also have the ARTA report card. asr-003323 04:59:05.200 --> 04:59:07.380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the harmonious clients asr-003324 04:59:07.380 --> 04:59:08.500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: satisfaction measurement. asr-003325 04:59:10.080 --> 04:59:11.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. asr-003326 04:59:11.420 --> 04:59:13.440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. asr-003327 04:59:13.880 --> 04:59:15.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ito pong panghuling katanungan asr-003328 04:59:15.560 --> 04:59:17.180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na lamang po. Last asr-003329 04:59:17.180 --> 04:59:19.180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: question. Since asr-003330 04:59:19.180 --> 04:59:20.980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: the establishment po of ARTA asr-003331 04:59:20.980 --> 04:59:23.160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: in 2018 under asr-003332 04:59:23.160 --> 04:59:25.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: RA 11032, asr-003333 04:59:26.840 --> 04:59:27.480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: how asr-003334 04:59:27.480 --> 04:59:29.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: would you rate, on a scale asr-003335 04:59:29.220 --> 04:59:31.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: of 1 to 10, the agency's asr-003336 04:59:31.620 --> 04:59:32.940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: overall effectiveness asr-003337 04:59:32.940 --> 04:59:35.200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: in fulfilling its mandate asr-003338 04:59:35.200 --> 04:59:37.420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: to improve the ease of doing business asr-003339 04:59:37.420 --> 04:59:39.400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and reduce bureaucratic asr-003340 04:59:39.400 --> 04:59:41.340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: red tape in the Philippines? asr-003341 04:59:43.300 --> 04:59:45.320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: 1 to 10 rate? Okay lang naman po. asr-003342 04:59:45.540 --> 04:59:46.480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ARTA is a asr-003343 04:59:46.480 --> 04:59:49.020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: bago pa lang naman po kayo. asr-003344 04:59:49.140 --> 04:59:50.880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: You're what, 7 years? So asr-003345 04:59:50.880 --> 04:59:52.840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: gusto ko lamang pong malaman. asr-003346 04:59:52.840 --> 04:59:54.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, 9 out of asr-003347 04:59:54.900 --> 04:59:56.940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: 10. Wow, 9 out of 10 asr-003348 04:59:56.940 --> 04:59:58.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: po ang self-rating ng ARTA. asr-003349 05:00:00.000 --> 05:00:12.320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, yeah, it's a work in progress. Madami pa po tayong dapat gawin para mapagaan ang pagtatransact ng ating mga kababayan sa mga ahensya ng pamahalaan. asr-003350 05:00:12.800 --> 05:00:22.840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And Mr. Speaker, I would like to manifest my full support to the budget of ARTA dahil alam ko pong madami pa silang pwedeng gawin. asr-003351 05:00:22.840 --> 05:00:28.740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: We have a lot of room for improvement and I challenge ARTA to do just that. asr-003352 05:00:28.740 --> 05:00:34.080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Speaker, thank you, Distinguished Sponsor. Thank you, ARTA. asr-003353 05:00:34.720 --> 05:00:36.540 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader? asr-003354 05:00:36.660 --> 05:00:47.180 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, next to interpolate the sponsor, I move to recognize Representative Presley C. De Jesus of Partylist Filareka. asr-003355 05:00:48.040 --> 05:00:50.840 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Presley De Jesus is recognized. Please proceed. asr-003356 05:00:50.840 --> 05:00:55.840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and to Distinguished Sponsor. asr-003357 05:00:57.780 --> 05:00:58.720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If he's... asr-003358 05:00:58.720 --> 05:01:01.760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If he wishes to wield some questions from this representation. asr-003359 05:01:03.120 --> 05:01:03.540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you. asr-003360 05:01:04.440 --> 05:01:09.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My topic will be the monitoring and evaluation of EBOS implementation. asr-003361 05:01:09.240 --> 05:01:20.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My question, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, let us examine ARTA's primary operational line item, asr-003362 05:01:21.320 --> 05:01:28.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the monitor and evaluate compliance to RA-11032 activity under the... asr-003363 05:01:28.720 --> 05:01:35.780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ...of doing business and efficient delivery of government services program in fiscal year 2026. asr-003364 05:01:35.780 --> 05:01:40.540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: This activity received 153 million. asr-003365 05:01:41.120 --> 05:01:47.580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In 2027 fiscal year, NEP, NEP, it drops to 91 million. asr-003366 05:01:48.040 --> 05:01:50.900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So there's a difference of 40 percent, no? asr-003367 05:01:51.280 --> 05:01:57.980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: More critically, the activities, MOEs is lost from 77.8 percent, asr-003368 05:01:57.980 --> 05:02:05.140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: from 90 million and to just 20 million in 2027. asr-003369 05:02:05.960 --> 05:02:12.340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is this budget reduction consistent with ARTA's mandate to eliminate bureaucratic red tape? asr-003370 05:02:18.780 --> 05:02:25.140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, since 2019, ARTA has been actively capacitating LGUs asr-003371 05:02:25.140 --> 05:02:27.140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to the need to set up and operationalize... asr-003372 05:02:27.980 --> 05:02:32.640 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ...the electronic business, one-stop shop for the permits and licenses. asr-003373 05:02:33.360 --> 05:02:36.560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And this is being done in collaboration with the ICP. asr-003374 05:02:38.720 --> 05:02:45.180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, my question is about 2026 vis-a-vis to 2027 budget. asr-003375 05:02:45.840 --> 05:02:47.520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Masyado malaki yung ibinaba. asr-003376 05:02:48.460 --> 05:02:53.480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So let's concentrate from 2026 to 2027, wag na yung 2019, no? asr-003377 05:02:53.480 --> 05:02:57.160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So bakit bumaba ng ganito kalaki? asr-003378 05:02:57.980 --> 05:02:58.860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ang inyong budget. asr-003379 05:02:59.320 --> 05:03:10.000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ito ba'y inconsistent ho ba ito sa tinatawag natin to eradicate or eliminate bureaucratic red tape? asr-003380 05:03:10.900 --> 05:03:14.360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Gusto ko lang malaman bakit masyado binaba ng inyong budget. asr-003381 05:03:14.360 --> 05:03:22.040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, Mr. Speaker, this reduction runs contrary to ARTA's direction of expanding its reach asr-003382 05:03:22.040 --> 05:03:26.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and strengthening the implementation of Republic Act No. 11032. asr-003383 05:03:27.100 --> 05:03:27.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The proposed cut... asr-003384 05:03:27.980 --> 05:03:35.120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ...constraint ARTA's capacity to assist and capacitate government agencies in complying with the law asr-003385 05:03:35.120 --> 05:03:40.160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: directly affecting its mandate to reduce, if not eliminate, red tape in government services. asr-003386 05:03:41.020 --> 05:03:49.940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In short, Mr. Speaker, with the reduced budget, so you cannot do your work properly, asr-003387 05:03:49.940 --> 05:03:51.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ganun ba lumalabas dito? asr-003388 05:03:51.880 --> 05:03:55.140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because, you know, anti-red tape is supposed to have more budget. asr-003389 05:03:55.560 --> 05:03:56.940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, because of this big cut... asr-003390 05:03:57.980 --> 05:04:03.600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, you're telling me now, of course, not you, Distinguished Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, asr-003391 05:04:04.240 --> 05:04:09.000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the red tape cannot work properly with the reduced budget. asr-003392 05:04:09.460 --> 05:04:09.940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes. asr-003393 05:04:09.960 --> 05:04:10.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Am I right? asr-003394 05:04:10.420 --> 05:04:11.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-003395 05:04:11.680 --> 05:04:17.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It will also delay ongoing systems government intended to speed up complaints handling. asr-003396 05:04:18.060 --> 05:04:26.560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, Mr. Speaker, so how come when they send your budget, you know, to DBM, and, of course, it has to be justified, asr-003397 05:04:27.320 --> 05:04:27.820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: how come... asr-003400 05:04:27.960 --> 05:04:34.300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ...how come you allow them, and it's not a small amount, it's a huge amount, from one... asr-003401 05:04:34.300 --> 05:04:40.040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ...if I'm not mistaken, from 153 to 91 million. asr-003402 05:04:40.700 --> 05:04:42.900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, there's a slush of over 60 million. asr-003403 05:04:42.900 --> 05:04:44.960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, we are requesting to... asr-003404 05:04:46.480 --> 05:04:52.380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for an additional budget in the amount of 178,855,000. asr-003405 05:04:52.700 --> 05:04:57.380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, the rationale behind this one, that's why we're trying to... asr-003406 05:04:57.960 --> 05:05:08.380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ...to make sure that the ARTA ay mapalakas natin, to make sure to eradicate, if not totally eradicating the red tape, asr-003407 05:05:08.920 --> 05:05:10.800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: eh, at least, ma-minimize natin, no? asr-003408 05:05:11.760 --> 05:05:16.520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi marami na hong mga foreign investors, pagpunta rito, that's the first problem. asr-003409 05:05:16.640 --> 05:05:21.320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: They said that we don't want to do business in the Philippines because of the red tape. asr-003410 05:05:22.040 --> 05:05:27.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, with the budget cut, nakatali ang dalawang kamay nyo. asr-003411 05:05:27.220 --> 05:05:27.800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Paano lang? asr-003412 05:05:27.800 --> 05:05:28.840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Huwag niyong pinalalakan nyo. asr-003413 05:05:28.960 --> 05:05:32.640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, how can you do, perform properly pag gano'n? asr-003414 05:05:33.280 --> 05:05:40.820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, I think, Mr. Speaker, kailangan natin to, during budget deliberation of the second reading, asr-003415 05:05:40.820 --> 05:05:43.540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: kailangan natin palakasin ang hanay po ng ARTA. asr-003416 05:05:44.000 --> 05:05:51.900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pag pababa kayo ng pababa, ibig sabihin, we are not in same wisdom na palakasin ARTA, kundi pababain pa. asr-003417 05:05:52.380 --> 05:05:55.380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, definitely, we will support your budget for this, no? asr-003418 05:05:55.900 --> 05:05:57.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, moving on. asr-003419 05:05:57.800 --> 05:06:01.440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Second, second interpolation. asr-003420 05:06:01.440 --> 05:06:12.700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In connection to this, Mr. Speaker, ARTA's accomplishment report shows that out of 1,634 LGUs nationwide, asr-003421 05:06:13.260 --> 05:06:22.880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: only 127 LGUs, or 7.77%, were fully compliant with the electronic business one-stop shop. asr-003422 05:06:23.080 --> 05:06:24.460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ito ang sinasabi ko yung e-boss. asr-003423 05:06:24.460 --> 05:06:27.460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: We passed the law to make sure everybody follows. asr-003424 05:06:27.800 --> 05:06:29.260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Especially, LGU. asr-003425 05:06:29.580 --> 05:06:37.320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But the problem, mandate as of 2025, when we passed that, I remember that vividly because I was one of the co-author of this. asr-003426 05:06:37.420 --> 05:06:42.400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: A total of 722 LGUs, or 44% were partly compliant. asr-003427 05:06:43.040 --> 05:06:49.220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 544 LGUs, or 33% had no e-boss, no? asr-003428 05:06:49.480 --> 05:06:50.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: They didn't follow. asr-003429 05:06:50.600 --> 05:06:55.720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And 243 LGUs, or 14% made no submission. asr-003430 05:06:55.720 --> 05:06:57.720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: With over 92%. asr-003431 05:06:57.800 --> 05:07:05.980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 92% of LGUs not fully compliant with ARTA's plan to bring these remaining LGUs into full e-boss compliance. asr-003432 05:07:06.520 --> 05:07:12.780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And what target number of LGUs does after expect to achieve by the end of 2037? asr-003433 05:07:13.340 --> 05:07:15.180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano nangyari sa ating ARTA? asr-003434 05:07:16.140 --> 05:07:22.920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: You know, out of 1,634 LGUs, 127 yung fully compliant. asr-003435 05:07:23.740 --> 05:07:24.800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, what does ARTA's... asr-003436 05:07:24.800 --> 05:07:27.300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Anong ginagawa ng ARTA? asr-003437 05:07:27.300 --> 05:07:28.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pag ganito lang yung atin. asr-003438 05:07:28.680 --> 05:07:30.480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I'm talking about 20, ano to ha? asr-003439 05:07:31.040 --> 05:07:31.560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2025. asr-003440 05:07:32.520 --> 05:07:35.280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Back then, ang budget nyo malaki pa. asr-003441 05:07:36.360 --> 05:07:36.940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Go ahead. asr-003442 05:07:37.600 --> 05:07:42.000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, since 2019, ARTA's been actively capacitating LGUs. asr-003443 05:07:42.500 --> 05:07:48.980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: On the need to set up an operationalize the electronic business one-stop shop for the permits and licenses. asr-003444 05:07:49.660 --> 05:07:51.840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And this is being done in collaboration with ICT. asr-003445 05:07:52.060 --> 05:07:54.140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What was I said earlier, kanina, no? asr-003446 05:07:54.340 --> 05:07:57.140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: However, there are other factors that we'll have to consider. asr-003447 05:07:57.300 --> 05:08:02.860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In the setting up of an e-boss, such as internet infrastructure, which is very important, asr-003448 05:08:03.580 --> 05:08:10.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: manpower capacity, and budget to procure necessary equipment, software, and hiring of IT personnel. asr-003449 05:08:11.180 --> 05:08:16.920 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Other systems separately developed, such as EFIS of the BFP, asr-003450 05:08:17.420 --> 05:08:23.040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: will also have to be integrated to have a seamless end-to-end processing of permits and licenses. asr-003451 05:08:23.040 --> 05:08:27.040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: To bring the remaining LGUs into full e-boss, asr-003452 05:08:27.300 --> 05:08:34.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: compliance, ARTA is continuously working with BFP for the integration of their system, asr-003453 05:08:34.300 --> 05:08:43.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and closely monitor the development phase of LGUs through the e-boss monitoring report that is regularly updated by the LGUs. asr-003454 05:08:43.300 --> 05:08:54.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For 2027, ARTA will endeavor to have 1,300 e-boss fully compliant LGUs that are located in the regions. asr-003455 05:08:54.300 --> 05:08:57.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor, asr-003456 05:08:57.100 --> 05:08:59.460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: how much is your budget in 2025? asr-003457 05:09:20.100 --> 05:09:23.560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay, for 2025, the budget was asr-003458 05:09:23.560 --> 05:09:26.940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 493 million asr-003459 05:09:27.100 --> 05:09:32.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 514,359. asr-003460 05:09:32.100 --> 05:09:37.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, ito, back then, 2025, malaki na budget niyo, asr-003461 05:09:37.100 --> 05:09:41.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and the e-boss 2019 niyo pa inistart yan, asr-003462 05:09:41.100 --> 05:09:43.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: but only 100, asr-003463 05:09:43.100 --> 05:09:46.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it's not even fully compliant, but asr-003464 05:09:46.100 --> 05:09:48.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: today, with the meager budget asr-003465 05:09:48.100 --> 05:09:50.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of 97 million asr-003466 05:09:50.100 --> 05:09:52.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for 2027, asr-003467 05:09:52.100 --> 05:09:54.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: so how can you accomplish asr-003468 05:09:54.100 --> 05:09:56.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that all 1,600 LGUs, asr-003469 05:09:57.100 --> 05:09:59.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: will be compliant asr-003470 05:09:59.100 --> 05:10:01.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by the 2026, asr-003471 05:10:01.100 --> 05:10:02.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or 2027? asr-003472 05:10:02.100 --> 05:10:04.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi, kulang na yung budget niyo eh. asr-003473 05:10:04.100 --> 05:10:06.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, paano niyo mapapagalaw yan? asr-003474 05:10:09.100 --> 05:10:13.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, Mr. Speaker, I'm not blaming ARTAs dito, especially Director General Perez, no? asr-003475 05:10:13.100 --> 05:10:18.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because, hindi niyo talaga, ang kamay niyo tali kung wala kayong pondo. asr-003476 05:10:18.100 --> 05:10:25.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sabi nga nila, ang sasakyan, hindi naman under yan kung hindi gosalina, walang karga. asr-003477 05:10:25.100 --> 05:10:29.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kung gosalina niyo, kalahati, half gallon, half full tank, asr-003478 05:10:29.100 --> 05:10:31.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: kalahati lang, eh, hanggang doon lang kayo. asr-003479 05:10:31.100 --> 05:10:33.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, ano mangyayari sa atin? asr-003480 05:10:33.100 --> 05:10:35.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi, I'm very concerned. asr-003481 05:10:35.100 --> 05:10:38.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Remember, e-boss is a seamless asr-003482 05:10:38.100 --> 05:10:40.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: law na dapat mabilis na asr-003483 05:10:40.100 --> 05:10:42.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: para maging compliant. asr-003484 05:10:42.100 --> 05:10:45.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, Mr. Speaker, we are appealing for asr-003485 05:10:45.100 --> 05:10:47.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the additional budget asr-003486 05:10:47.100 --> 05:10:49.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for 2027 in the amount asr-003487 05:10:49.100 --> 05:10:53.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: of 178,855,000. asr-003488 05:10:53.100 --> 05:10:55.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And, um, asr-003489 05:10:55.100 --> 05:10:59.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and this will be asr-003490 05:10:59.100 --> 05:11:01.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for the asr-003491 05:11:01.100 --> 05:11:07.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTAs-K digitalization projects, including the enhancement asr-003492 05:11:07.100 --> 05:11:11.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and expansion of the electronic complaints management system, asr-003493 05:11:11.100 --> 05:11:14.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the Philippine Business Regulations Information System, asr-003494 05:11:14.100 --> 05:11:17.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and other digital platforms asr-003495 05:11:17.100 --> 05:11:21.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: that streamline government transactions and improve service delivery. asr-003496 05:11:21.100 --> 05:11:24.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It will also support regional transactions, asr-003497 05:11:24.100 --> 05:11:27.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: monitoring and enforcement activities, asr-003498 05:11:27.100 --> 05:11:29.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and public awareness initiatives. asr-003499 05:11:29.100 --> 05:11:31.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: These investments are essential asr-003500 05:11:31.100 --> 05:11:34.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to sustain ease of doing business reforms asr-003501 05:11:34.100 --> 05:11:36.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and expand their benefits asr-003502 05:11:36.100 --> 05:11:39.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to businesses and citizens nationwide. asr-003503 05:11:40.100 --> 05:11:42.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, uh, Mr. Speaker, asr-003504 05:11:42.100 --> 05:11:43.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Sponsor. asr-003505 05:11:43.100 --> 05:11:45.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, I'll go to Nehemia. asr-003506 05:11:45.100 --> 05:11:47.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor, asr-003507 05:11:47.100 --> 05:11:50.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ARTA is tasked under Program Nehemia asr-003508 05:11:50.100 --> 05:11:52.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or National Effort for the Harmonization of Epidemiology, asr-003509 05:11:52.100 --> 05:11:55.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the harmonization of efficiency measures asr-003510 05:11:55.100 --> 05:11:58.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of interrelated agencies asr-003511 05:11:58.100 --> 05:12:04.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to streamline regulation across key economic sectors, asr-003512 05:12:04.100 --> 05:12:08.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: including housing, telecommunications, asr-003513 05:12:08.100 --> 05:12:11.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: water supply and wastewater, asr-003514 05:12:11.100 --> 05:12:14.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: responsible mining, semiconductors, asr-003515 05:12:14.100 --> 05:12:19.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and to establish sector-specific one-stop shops. asr-003516 05:12:19.100 --> 05:12:22.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How many of these sectoral streamlining initiatives asr-003517 05:12:22.100 --> 05:12:24.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and one-stop shops asr-003518 05:12:24.100 --> 05:12:26.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: are already operational? asr-003519 05:12:26.100 --> 05:12:29.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What regulatory processes asr-003520 05:12:29.100 --> 05:12:31.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: have been simplified asr-003521 05:12:31.100 --> 05:12:33.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and what remains to be completed asr-003522 05:12:33.100 --> 05:12:36.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by fiscal year 2027? asr-003523 05:12:36.100 --> 05:12:38.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, asr-003524 05:12:38.100 --> 05:12:40.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the Nehemia sectors asr-003525 05:12:40.100 --> 05:12:43.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: are at the different stages of implementation. asr-003526 05:12:43.100 --> 05:12:46.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Telecommunication is the most mature asr-003527 05:12:46.100 --> 05:12:49.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and already has implemented streamlining reforms, asr-003528 05:12:49.100 --> 05:12:52.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: while the sector-specific one-stop shops asr-003529 05:12:52.100 --> 05:12:54.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for housing, asr-003530 05:12:54.100 --> 05:12:55.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: infrastructure, asr-003531 05:12:55.100 --> 05:12:56.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: flagship projects, asr-003532 05:12:56.100 --> 05:12:58.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: responsible mining, asr-003533 05:12:58.100 --> 05:12:59.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and ship building, asr-003534 05:12:59.100 --> 05:13:00.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and ship repair asr-003535 05:13:00.100 --> 05:13:03.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: are at the various stages of rollout or development. asr-003536 05:13:03.100 --> 05:13:05.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For telecommunications, asr-003537 05:13:05.100 --> 05:13:09.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the reforms are already producing measurable results. asr-003538 05:13:09.100 --> 05:13:12.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Under Executive Order No. 32, asr-003539 05:13:12.100 --> 05:13:16.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: required permits were reduced from 13 to 8, asr-003540 05:13:16.100 --> 05:13:19.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: documentary requirements from 86 to 35, asr-003541 05:13:19.100 --> 05:13:21.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and reported turnaround time asr-003542 05:13:21.100 --> 05:13:24.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: from 241 days to 16 days. asr-003543 05:13:24.100 --> 05:13:27.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Approved telecommunications permits asr-003544 05:13:27.100 --> 05:13:29.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: were also increased asr-003545 05:13:29.100 --> 05:13:32.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: from 6,117 in 2022 asr-003546 05:13:32.100 --> 05:13:37.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to 10,465 as of June 2026. asr-003547 05:13:37.100 --> 05:13:39.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For housing, Mr. Chair, asr-003548 05:13:39.100 --> 05:13:42.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the streamlined regulatory framework asr-003549 05:13:42.100 --> 05:13:44.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: has already been institutionalized asr-003550 05:13:44.100 --> 05:13:47.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: through the Joint Memorandum Circular asr-003551 05:13:47.100 --> 05:13:50.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: finalized by 15 national government agencies asr-003552 05:13:50.100 --> 05:13:52.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: in June 2026. asr-003553 05:13:52.100 --> 05:13:55.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The next phase is implementation, asr-003554 05:13:55.100 --> 05:13:57.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: including the rollout of the asr-003555 05:13:57.100 --> 05:14:00.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Electronic Housing One-Stop Processing Center, asr-003556 05:14:00.100 --> 05:14:03.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: or EHOPC, asr-003557 05:14:03.100 --> 05:14:05.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: data sharing mechanisms, asr-003558 05:14:05.100 --> 05:14:07.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and the One Map System. asr-003559 05:14:07.100 --> 05:14:09.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For construction permit, asr-003560 05:14:09.100 --> 05:14:13.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTA is implementing Executive Order No. 59 asr-003561 05:14:13.100 --> 05:14:14.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to streamline permits asr-003562 05:14:14.100 --> 05:14:17.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for infrastructure flagship projects. asr-003563 05:14:17.100 --> 05:14:18.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTA is now working with asr-003564 05:14:18.100 --> 05:14:20.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the Office of the Executive Order asr-003565 05:14:20.100 --> 05:14:22.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and the Executive Secretary, asr-003566 05:14:22.100 --> 05:14:24.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: DepDev, the ICT, asr-003567 05:14:24.100 --> 05:14:26.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and DOE on the framework, asr-003568 05:14:26.100 --> 05:14:27.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: road map, asr-003569 05:14:27.100 --> 05:14:29.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and technical architecture asr-003570 05:14:29.100 --> 05:14:32.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for the IFC one-stop shop. asr-003571 05:14:32.100 --> 05:14:35.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The target is to pilot the OSS asr-003572 05:14:35.100 --> 05:14:37.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for physical connectivity, asr-003573 05:14:37.100 --> 05:14:38.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: physical connectivity, asr-003574 05:14:38.100 --> 05:14:42.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: IFS in fiscal year 2027, asr-003575 05:14:42.100 --> 05:14:44.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: with priority given to projects asr-003576 05:14:44.100 --> 05:14:45.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: already approved asr-003577 05:14:45.100 --> 05:14:47.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: or outgoing government approval asr-003578 05:14:47.100 --> 05:14:49.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: where permitting reforms are expected asr-003579 05:14:49.100 --> 05:14:51.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to have the greatest impact. asr-003580 05:14:51.100 --> 05:14:53.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For responsible mining, asr-003581 05:14:53.100 --> 05:14:56.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTA is working with DENR asr-003582 05:14:56.100 --> 05:14:58.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and the concerned regulatory offices asr-003583 05:14:58.100 --> 05:15:00.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to streamline the initial stage of asr-003584 05:15:00.000 --> 05:15:03.340 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: of mining-related processes exploration stage asr-003585 05:15:03.340 --> 05:15:07.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and develop the electronic mining one-stop shop or EMOS asr-003586 05:15:07.420 --> 05:15:10.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: through the issuance of the JNC. asr-003587 05:15:11.660 --> 05:15:16.240 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ADB technical assistance from September 2026 to August 2027 asr-003588 05:15:16.240 --> 05:15:21.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: will complement this work by reviewing and harmonizing the other stages asr-003589 05:15:21.320 --> 05:15:26.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: of the mining regulatory lifecycle, development and construction, asr-003590 05:15:26.900 --> 05:15:33.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: utilization, commercial operation, and decommissioning rehabilitation stages. asr-003591 05:15:34.260 --> 05:15:39.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The objective for fiscal year 2027 is to advance both the streamlined processes asr-003592 05:15:40.420 --> 05:15:44.220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and their digital integration through EMOS. asr-003593 05:15:44.920 --> 05:15:48.540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For logistics, particularly shipbuilding and ship repair, asr-003594 05:15:49.420 --> 05:15:53.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTA and Marina are finalizing a joint memorandum circular asr-003595 05:15:53.360 --> 05:15:56.860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: targeted for issuance in October 2026. asr-003596 05:15:56.900 --> 05:16:01.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The JNC shall provide for the streamlining, digitalization, asr-003597 05:16:02.940 --> 05:16:07.580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and interoperability of the SBSR license to operate, LTO, asr-003598 05:16:08.100 --> 05:16:10.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: process to the simplified and consolidated requirements asr-003599 05:16:11.720 --> 05:16:15.200 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and establishment of a SBSR one-stop shop asr-003600 05:16:15.200 --> 05:16:20.160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: with transition to an electronic OSS to the Marina BEST system. asr-003601 05:16:20.960 --> 05:16:26.180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It shall likewise support investment, facilitation, and workforce development asr-003604 05:16:26.200 --> 05:16:32.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to an SBSR investor information package and coordinated training initiatives asr-003605 05:16:32.920 --> 05:16:39.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and strengthen governance and stakeholder coordination with an SBSR technical working group asr-003606 05:16:39.300 --> 05:16:42.780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: chaired by Marina with ARTA as co-chair, asr-003607 05:16:43.360 --> 05:16:48.620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: supported mechanism for monitoring, feedback, and periodic review. asr-003608 05:16:49.180 --> 05:16:56.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Therefore, Mr. Chair, the work for fiscal year 2027 is primarily about operationalization. asr-003609 05:16:56.900 --> 05:17:09.620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Sustaining the already implemented telecommunications reforms, rolling out EHOPC for housing, developing and piloting the IFC one-stop shop, asr-003610 05:17:09.620 --> 05:17:18.500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: advancing EMOS for responsible mining, and implementing shipbuilding and ship repair reforms and MARINA BEST. asr-003611 05:17:18.960 --> 05:17:25.620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: These are also the implementation activities that the additional funding discussed asr-003616 05:17:26.360 --> 05:17:28.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: earlier is intended to sustain. asr-003617 05:17:28.760 --> 05:17:29.920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Chair. asr-003618 05:17:30.280 --> 05:17:31.920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor, asr-003619 05:17:32.880 --> 05:17:34.320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I have more questions but asr-003620 05:17:34.320 --> 05:17:35.900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it's already anchored asr-003621 05:17:35.900 --> 05:17:37.800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to the E-Boss so asr-003622 05:17:37.800 --> 05:17:40.340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: with the meager budget, I don't think we asr-003623 05:17:40.340 --> 05:17:42.360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: can continue my line of asr-003624 05:17:42.360 --> 05:17:44.120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: questioning but at the same time, I'm appealing asr-003625 05:17:44.120 --> 05:17:46.040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to our committee of appropriation asr-003626 05:17:46.040 --> 05:17:47.640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to put more money asr-003627 05:17:47.640 --> 05:17:50.500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: on your budget. Paano nyo matatrabaho asr-003628 05:17:50.500 --> 05:17:51.600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nga na may ginagawa nyo? asr-003629 05:17:52.020 --> 05:17:53.880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, before I end my asr-003630 05:17:53.880 --> 05:17:55.720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: interpolation, please, asr-003631 05:17:56.200 --> 05:17:58.260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: let's put more money sa ARTA kung gusto asr-003632 05:17:58.260 --> 05:18:00.180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: natin mawala ang red tape. Again, asr-003633 05:18:00.600 --> 05:18:01.960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker, asr-003634 05:18:02.300 --> 05:18:03.980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Sponsor, and to ARTA's family. asr-003635 05:18:04.640 --> 05:18:05.620 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Thank you very much. asr-003636 05:18:06.180 --> 05:18:07.960 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader? asr-003637 05:18:08.160 --> 05:18:10.520 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, next to interpolate, asr-003638 05:18:10.520 --> 05:18:12.080 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: I move that we recognize asr-003639 05:18:12.080 --> 05:18:13.800 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Representative Sergio Dagooc asr-003640 05:18:13.800 --> 05:18:15.180 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: of Partylist APEC. asr-003641 05:18:15.680 --> 05:18:18.280 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Sergio Dagooc is recognized. asr-003642 05:18:19.120 --> 05:18:20.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-003643 05:18:20.280 --> 05:18:21.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Majority Leader. asr-003644 05:18:23.180 --> 05:18:23.820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Magandang asr-003645 05:18:23.820 --> 05:18:26.020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: gabi po sa ating asr-003646 05:18:26.020 --> 05:18:28.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: lahat, especially to asr-003647 05:18:28.160 --> 05:18:30.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: the sponsor, my colleague. asr-003648 05:18:31.120 --> 05:18:32.480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Would the distinguished sponsor asr-003649 05:18:32.800 --> 05:18:33.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yield to asr-003650 05:18:33.500 --> 05:18:35.800 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: only one issue. asr-003651 05:18:40.080 --> 05:18:41.520 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-003652 05:18:42.100 --> 05:18:42.680 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, asr-003653 05:18:43.680 --> 05:18:44.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: distinct sponsor. asr-003654 05:18:45.800 --> 05:18:47.460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: May data ba si asr-003655 05:18:47.460 --> 05:18:48.460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ARTA? asr-003656 05:18:50.780 --> 05:18:51.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ilang asr-003657 05:18:51.420 --> 05:18:53.340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: applicants na asr-003658 05:18:53.820 --> 05:18:56.340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: magtatayo ng power plant asr-003659 05:18:56.340 --> 05:18:58.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na natulungan ninyo mapabilis asr-003660 05:18:58.080 --> 05:18:58.960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ang permitting? asr-003661 05:19:03.700 --> 05:19:05.080 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We have no data, Mr. Speaker. asr-003662 05:19:05.720 --> 05:19:06.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: You have no data. asr-003663 05:19:07.400 --> 05:19:09.220 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, mayroon bang mga asr-003664 05:19:09.220 --> 05:19:14.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nagkokonstruct ng planta, asr-003665 05:19:14.480 --> 05:19:16.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: mga generating companies na asr-003666 05:19:16.500 --> 05:19:19.720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: lumapit sa opisina ninyo asr-003667 05:19:19.720 --> 05:19:21.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: para magpatulong asr-003668 05:19:21.520 --> 05:19:23.800 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na mapabilis yung permitting? asr-003672 05:19:32.720 --> 05:19:33.260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Based asr-003673 05:19:33.260 --> 05:19:34.720 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: on asr-003674 05:19:34.720 --> 05:19:36.480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: joint memorandum asr-003675 05:19:36.480 --> 05:19:37.760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: circular on energy asr-003676 05:19:37.760 --> 05:19:38.920 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: infra projects, asr-003677 05:19:39.840 --> 05:19:41.080 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: there was an increase of asr-003678 05:19:41.080 --> 05:19:42.800 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 71.7% asr-003679 05:19:42.800 --> 05:19:44.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: in permit issued. asr-003680 05:19:45.240 --> 05:19:47.640 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 2025, it was 1,429. asr-003681 05:19:47.900 --> 05:19:48.860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For 2026, asr-003682 05:19:49.320 --> 05:19:52.120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: it was 2,454. asr-003683 05:19:53.020 --> 05:19:53.800 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ganito na, asr-003684 05:19:53.820 --> 05:19:56.840 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Mayroon na lang, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. asr-003685 05:19:59.040 --> 05:20:05.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nagkaproblema tayo sa Visayas, Mindanao, mga yellow at saka red alert. asr-003686 05:20:06.040 --> 05:20:13.560 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: One of the reasons is that pag nagtayo ka ng planta, it will take you 5 to 7 years. asr-003687 05:20:14.200 --> 05:20:18.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero ang pagtayo ng planta mismo, tatlong taon lang po yun. asr-003688 05:20:18.320 --> 05:20:20.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yung tatlong taon, permitting po. asr-003689 05:20:20.120 --> 05:20:29.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, may I just request an appeal to ARTA, kasi alam naman ninyo yung mandato ninyo, bakit kayo na-create, asr-003690 05:20:30.320 --> 05:20:42.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kindly sit up a unit that will coordinate directly with the Department of Energy, Energy Regulatory Commission. asr-003691 05:20:42.420 --> 05:20:49.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Makita ninyo doon sino yung mga binigyan ni DOE ng service contract. asr-003692 05:20:50.120 --> 05:21:02.020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Para magtayo ng mga planta, different types of technology, mga ano ba yan, coal, not gas, renewable, doon ninyo makita. asr-003693 05:21:02.020 --> 05:21:11.340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, huwag na kayong maghintay na lalapit pa yung mga nagtatayo ng planta sa inyo. asr-003694 05:21:11.740 --> 05:21:18.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tanongin nyo na, wala ba kayong problema sa EBOS, wala ba kayong problema sa permitting, i-assist nyo na. asr-003695 05:21:18.320 --> 05:21:20.020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi kailangan natin yun. asr-003696 05:21:20.120 --> 05:21:26.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi naghahabol tayo, we are inviting investors, nag-put up ng mga businesses. asr-003697 05:21:27.360 --> 05:21:33.560 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Every investor na magtayo dito, may kaakibat po yan na pangangailangan ng kuryente. asr-003698 05:21:34.120 --> 05:21:46.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ngayon kung hindi tayo mabilis magtayo ng planta dahil sa permitting process na more than 160 plus na permits bago ka makapagtayo ng planta. asr-003699 05:21:46.120 --> 05:21:49.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ma-assist man lang ninyo para mapabilis natin. asr-003700 05:21:50.120 --> 05:21:59.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi na tayo magkaroon ng yellow, red alert, rotating brownouts, then every time mangyari yan, tataas po yung presyo ng kuryente. asr-003701 05:21:59.120 --> 05:22:01.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Automatic po yan, tataas. asr-003702 05:22:01.120 --> 05:22:06.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pati po kayo dito sa Metro Manila, sa bahay ninyo, lalaki, tataas po yung babayaran ninyo. asr-003703 05:22:06.620 --> 05:22:18.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya, turungan natin ang ating sarili kasi yan yung trabaho ninyo, mapabilis para maraming planta, maraming supply, bababa po yung presyo. asr-003704 05:22:18.360 --> 05:22:23.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Can the ARTA commit on that? asr-003705 05:22:23.360 --> 05:22:25.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-003706 05:22:25.360 --> 05:22:29.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, maraming salamat ARTA, thank you Distinguished Sponsor. asr-003707 05:22:29.360 --> 05:22:31.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you Mr. Speaker. asr-003708 05:22:31.360 --> 05:22:41.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, Mr. Speaker, there being no other members from the minority who wanted to interpolate the budget of ARTA, asr-003709 05:22:41.360 --> 05:22:47.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I move to terminate the period of interpellation and debate on the budget of ARTA asr-003710 05:22:47.360 --> 05:22:49.460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: for fiscal year 2027. asr-003711 05:22:50.000 --> 05:22:51.200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So move, Mr. Speaker. asr-003712 05:22:51.780 --> 05:22:53.320 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. What does the House say? asr-003713 05:22:54.660 --> 05:22:55.700 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, asr-003714 05:22:56.820 --> 05:22:59.820 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: the majority joins the minority asr-003715 05:22:59.820 --> 05:23:01.920 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: in the motion to terminate asr-003716 05:23:01.920 --> 05:23:04.220 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: the proposed budget of the asr-003717 05:23:04.220 --> 05:23:06.720 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: anti-red tape. asr-003718 05:23:07.920 --> 05:23:10.020 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: There is a joint motion to terminate asr-003719 05:23:10.020 --> 05:23:11.860 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: the interpolations in the proposed budget asr-003720 05:23:11.860 --> 05:23:13.620 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: of the anti-red tape authority. asr-003721 05:23:13.760 --> 05:23:14.500 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Is there any objection? asr-003722 05:23:15.460 --> 05:23:16.440 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Chair, here's none. asr-003723 05:23:17.360 --> 05:23:18.640 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: The motion is approved. asr-003724 05:23:19.120 --> 05:23:21.160 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: The interpolations in the proposed budget asr-003725 05:23:21.160 --> 05:23:23.120 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: of the anti-red tape authority asr-003726 05:23:23.120 --> 05:23:24.100 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: is hereby terminated. asr-003727 05:23:24.860 --> 05:23:26.600 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-003728 05:23:47.360 --> 05:23:48.040 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, asr-003729 05:23:49.080 --> 05:23:50.340 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: I move to consider asr-003730 05:23:50.340 --> 05:23:52.340 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: the proposed budget of asr-003731 05:23:52.340 --> 05:23:54.960 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: the Anti-Money Laundering asr-003732 05:23:54.960 --> 05:23:55.560 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Council. asr-003733 05:23:58.120 --> 05:23:59.240 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Is there any objection? asr-003734 05:23:59.540 --> 05:24:00.780 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Chair, here's none. The motion is approved. asr-003735 05:24:01.700 --> 05:24:02.200 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: The majority leader. asr-003736 05:24:03.480 --> 05:24:05.320 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, may we asr-003737 05:24:05.320 --> 05:24:07.160 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: acknowledge the heads of the asr-003738 05:24:07.160 --> 05:24:09.100 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Office of the Anti-Money asr-003739 05:24:09.100 --> 05:24:10.220 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Laundering Council. asr-003740 05:24:11.200 --> 05:24:12.580 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Attorney Ronel asr-003741 05:24:12.580 --> 05:24:15.100 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Buenaventura, the Executive Director. asr-003742 05:24:16.480 --> 05:24:16.960 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Attorney asr-003743 05:24:17.360 --> 05:24:19.720 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Reyes Santos Mendoza, asr-003744 05:24:19.940 --> 05:24:20.300 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Director. asr-003745 05:24:21.580 --> 05:24:23.780 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Attorney Emmet Rodion asr-003746 05:24:23.780 --> 05:24:25.080 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Manantan, Director. asr-003747 05:24:25.640 --> 05:24:27.380 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Attorney Arnold T. asr-003748 05:24:27.760 --> 05:24:28.980 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Cabanlit, Director. asr-003749 05:24:30.020 --> 05:24:31.680 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Attorney Andrew Cruz, Deputy asr-003750 05:24:31.680 --> 05:24:32.640 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Chief of Staff. asr-003751 05:24:33.140 --> 05:24:35.560 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Maria Liza Rizal Cruz, asr-003752 05:24:35.720 --> 05:24:36.040 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Manager. asr-003753 05:24:36.900 --> 05:24:39.740 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials asr-003754 05:24:39.740 --> 05:24:41.860 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: of the Anti-Money Laundering Council asr-003755 05:24:41.860 --> 05:24:44.140 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: headed by Attorney Ronel Buenaventura. asr-003756 05:24:44.980 --> 05:24:45.800 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Welcome to the House asr-003757 05:24:45.800 --> 05:24:46.480 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: of Representatives. asr-003758 05:24:47.360 --> 05:24:49.080 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. asr-003759 05:24:51.580 --> 05:24:53.620 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, I move that asr-003760 05:24:53.620 --> 05:24:55.140 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: we open the period of asr-003761 05:24:55.140 --> 05:24:57.240 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: sponsorship and debate. asr-003762 05:24:58.240 --> 05:24:59.120 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Is there any objection? asr-003763 05:24:59.380 --> 05:25:00.620 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Chair, here's none. Motion is approved. asr-003764 05:25:01.360 --> 05:25:01.980 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. asr-003765 05:25:02.720 --> 05:25:05.200 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: I move that we recognize the asr-003766 05:25:05.200 --> 05:25:07.380 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Honorable Vice asr-003767 05:25:07.380 --> 05:25:09.160 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Chair Maria Isabel asr-003768 05:25:09.160 --> 05:25:10.860 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Sagarbarria, asr-003769 05:25:11.640 --> 05:25:14.080 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Vice Chairperson asr-003770 05:25:14.080 --> 05:25:15.680 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: of the Committee on Appropriation asr-003771 05:25:15.680 --> 05:25:17.340 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: to sponsor the asr-003772 05:25:17.360 --> 05:25:18.200 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: proposed budget asr-003773 05:25:18.200 --> 05:25:21.380 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: of the Anti-Money Laundering Council. asr-003774 05:25:22.200 --> 05:25:23.440 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Vice Chair, Honorable asr-003775 05:25:23.440 --> 05:25:25.560 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Isabel Sagarbarria is recognized. asr-003776 05:25:25.860 --> 05:25:26.920 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Once again, please proceed. asr-003777 05:25:28.180 --> 05:25:29.480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, distinguished asr-003778 05:25:29.480 --> 05:25:31.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: guests, it is my honor asr-003779 05:25:31.360 --> 05:25:33.580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and privilege to sponsor the proposed asr-003780 05:25:33.580 --> 05:25:35.480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: budget of the Anti-Money asr-003781 05:25:35.480 --> 05:25:37.480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Laundering Council under asr-003782 05:25:37.480 --> 05:25:39.960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the House Bill No. 10858 asr-003783 05:25:39.960 --> 05:25:41.200 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: or the Fiscal Year asr-003784 05:25:41.200 --> 05:25:43.780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 2027 General Appropriations asr-003785 05:25:43.780 --> 05:25:44.980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Bill amounting to asr-003786 05:25:44.980 --> 05:25:47.340 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 144,870,000. asr-003787 05:25:47.360 --> 05:25:49.960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The Anti-Money asr-003788 05:25:49.960 --> 05:25:51.020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Laundering Council asr-003789 05:25:51.020 --> 05:25:53.700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: as a hybrid financial intelligence asr-003790 05:25:53.700 --> 05:25:55.640 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: unit carries asr-003791 05:25:55.640 --> 05:25:57.740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: out responsibility that extends asr-003792 05:25:57.740 --> 05:25:59.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: well beyond its core mandate. asr-003793 05:26:00.200 --> 05:26:00.840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It monitors asr-003794 05:26:00.840 --> 05:26:02.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the compliance of asr-003795 05:26:02.420 --> 05:26:05.520 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: covered persons with the Anti-Money Laundering asr-003796 05:26:05.520 --> 05:26:07.080 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Act of 2001 asr-003797 05:26:07.080 --> 05:26:09.660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and its implementing rules. asr-003798 05:26:10.200 --> 05:26:11.560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It is likewise mandated asr-003799 05:26:11.560 --> 05:26:13.180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to investigate money laundering asr-003800 05:26:13.180 --> 05:26:15.480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and terrorism financing asr-003801 05:26:15.480 --> 05:26:17.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and to seek the freezing asr-003802 05:26:17.460 --> 05:26:19.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and forfeiture of the asr-003803 05:26:19.100 --> 05:26:20.180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: proceeds of crime. asr-003804 05:26:20.360 --> 05:26:22.880 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: A significant portion of the proposed asr-003805 05:26:22.880 --> 05:26:24.500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: budget is dedicated asr-003806 05:26:24.500 --> 05:26:27.060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to information and communication asr-003807 05:26:27.060 --> 05:26:27.940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: technology. asr-003808 05:26:28.920 --> 05:26:30.440 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The AMLC's asr-003809 05:26:30.440 --> 05:26:32.120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: in-house artificial asr-003810 05:26:32.120 --> 05:26:34.760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: intelligence capability asr-003811 05:26:34.760 --> 05:26:36.820 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: which analyzes reports asr-003812 05:26:36.820 --> 05:26:38.520 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: within our own borders asr-003813 05:26:38.520 --> 05:26:39.540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and a blockchain asr-003814 05:26:39.540 --> 05:26:42.220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: analytic platform asr-003815 05:26:42.220 --> 05:26:44.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to trace laundering through asr-003816 05:26:44.460 --> 05:26:46.240 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: cryptocurrency. asr-003821 05:26:46.780 --> 05:26:48.140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: By harnessing asr-003822 05:26:48.140 --> 05:26:48.840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: modern technology, asr-003823 05:26:49.160 --> 05:26:51.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: we bolster the AMLC's asr-003824 05:26:51.320 --> 05:26:52.340 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ability to detect, asr-003825 05:26:52.620 --> 05:26:53.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: investigate, asr-003826 05:26:53.740 --> 05:26:54.680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and prosecute asr-003827 05:26:54.680 --> 05:26:55.200 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: these crimes. asr-003828 05:26:56.150 --> 05:26:56.920 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Through this, asr-003829 05:26:57.280 --> 05:26:58.680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: we safeguard the integrity asr-003830 05:26:58.680 --> 05:26:59.940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: of financial system asr-003831 05:26:59.940 --> 05:27:01.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and foster an environment asr-003832 05:27:01.320 --> 05:27:01.960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: that promotes asr-003833 05:27:01.960 --> 05:27:04.220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: sustainable economic growth asr-003834 05:27:04.220 --> 05:27:05.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for the Filipino people. asr-003835 05:27:06.140 --> 05:27:07.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In view of the foregoing, asr-003836 05:27:07.500 --> 05:27:08.760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: I respectfully seek asr-003837 05:27:08.760 --> 05:27:09.620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the support of the asr-003838 05:27:09.620 --> 05:27:10.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Honorable House asr-003839 05:27:10.300 --> 05:27:11.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for the proposed asr-003840 05:27:11.320 --> 05:27:13.080 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Fiscal Year 2027 asr-003841 05:27:13.080 --> 05:27:14.380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: budget of the asr-003842 05:27:14.380 --> 05:27:15.940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Anti-Money Laundering Council. asr-003843 05:27:16.540 --> 05:27:17.140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, asr-003844 05:27:17.160 --> 05:27:17.700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker. asr-003849 05:27:18.360 --> 05:27:19.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: This representation asr-003850 05:27:19.360 --> 05:27:20.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: is now ready asr-003851 05:27:20.360 --> 05:27:21.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to answer questions asr-003852 05:27:21.660 --> 05:27:22.740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: from our colleagues. asr-003853 05:27:23.360 --> 05:27:24.360 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. asr-003854 05:27:24.360 --> 05:27:25.360 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. asr-003855 05:27:27.360 --> 05:27:28.360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, asr-003856 05:27:28.360 --> 05:27:30.360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: I move that we recognize asr-003857 05:27:30.360 --> 05:27:32.360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Honorable Rene Coe asr-003858 05:27:32.360 --> 05:27:35.360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: from the Kabataan Party List asr-003859 05:27:35.360 --> 05:27:36.360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: to interpolate asr-003860 05:27:36.360 --> 05:27:37.360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: on the proposed budget asr-003861 05:27:37.360 --> 05:27:38.360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: of the Anti-Money asr-003862 05:27:38.360 --> 05:27:40.360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Laundering Council. asr-003863 05:27:40.360 --> 05:27:42.360 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Rene Coe asr-003864 05:27:42.360 --> 05:27:43.360 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: is recognized. asr-003865 05:27:43.360 --> 05:27:44.360 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Please proceed. asr-003866 05:27:44.360 --> 05:27:45.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, asr-003867 05:27:45.360 --> 05:27:46.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, asr-003868 05:27:46.360 --> 05:27:47.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and good evening asr-003869 05:27:47.360 --> 05:27:48.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to our distinguished asr-003870 05:27:48.360 --> 05:27:49.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor. asr-003871 05:27:49.360 --> 05:27:50.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Will the distinguished asr-003872 05:27:50.360 --> 05:27:51.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor yield asr-003873 05:27:51.360 --> 05:27:52.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to a few questions asr-003874 05:27:52.360 --> 05:27:53.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation to asr-003875 05:27:53.360 --> 05:27:54.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: AMLC's budget? asr-003876 05:27:59.320 --> 05:27:59.638 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, asr-003877 05:27:59.638 --> 05:28:01.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker. asr-003878 05:28:01.080 --> 05:28:02.480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maglalatag lang po ako asr-003879 05:28:02.480 --> 05:28:04.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng maikling konteksto asr-003880 05:28:04.320 --> 05:28:05.958 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bago po mag-proceed. asr-003881 05:28:05.958 --> 05:28:06.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Before I proceed asr-003882 05:28:06.760 --> 05:28:08.638 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with my questions, asr-003883 05:28:08.638 --> 05:28:10.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker. asr-003884 05:28:10.000 --> 05:28:11.718 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In 2021, asr-003885 05:28:11.718 --> 05:28:12.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Securities asr-003886 05:28:12.520 --> 05:28:13.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and Exchange asr-003887 05:28:13.400 --> 05:28:14.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Commission asr-003888 05:28:14.080 --> 05:28:15.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: released asr-003889 05:28:15.120 --> 05:28:16.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the SEC asr-003890 05:28:16.440 --> 05:28:17.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2021 asr-003891 05:28:17.360 --> 05:28:18.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonprofit asr-003892 05:28:18.040 --> 05:28:18.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Organization asr-003893 05:28:18.760 --> 05:28:19.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or NPO asr-003894 05:28:19.920 --> 05:28:21.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Terrorist Financing asr-003895 05:28:21.200 --> 05:28:22.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sector Risk asr-003896 05:28:22.040 --> 05:28:23.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Assessment. asr-003905 05:28:23.440 --> 05:28:24.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This SEC asr-003906 05:28:24.360 --> 05:28:25.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: report says asr-003907 05:28:25.360 --> 05:28:26.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that information asr-003908 05:28:26.360 --> 05:28:27.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on cases asr-003909 05:28:27.360 --> 05:28:28.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: detected, asr-003910 05:28:28.360 --> 05:28:29.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: investigated, asr-003911 05:28:29.360 --> 05:28:30.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and prosecuted asr-003912 05:28:30.360 --> 05:28:31.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: was collected asr-003913 05:28:31.360 --> 05:28:32.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from AMLC's asr-003914 05:28:32.360 --> 05:28:34.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: financial analysis, asr-003915 05:28:34.360 --> 05:28:35.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: investigation, asr-003916 05:28:35.360 --> 05:28:37.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and legal groups. asr-003917 05:28:37.360 --> 05:28:38.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The 2021 asr-003918 05:28:38.360 --> 05:28:39.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Terrorist Financing asr-003919 05:28:39.360 --> 05:28:40.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sector Risk asr-003920 05:28:40.360 --> 05:28:41.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Assessment asr-003921 05:28:41.360 --> 05:28:42.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: publicly reported asr-003922 05:28:42.360 --> 05:28:43.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SEC-registered asr-003923 05:28:43.360 --> 05:28:44.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NPO asr-003924 05:28:44.360 --> 05:28:45.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: under asr-003925 05:28:45.360 --> 05:28:46.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: different asr-003926 05:28:46.360 --> 05:28:47.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: classifications asr-003927 05:28:47.360 --> 05:28:48.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: covered within asr-003928 05:28:48.360 --> 05:28:49.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the scope asr-003929 05:28:49.360 --> 05:28:50.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the asr-003930 05:28:50.360 --> 05:28:51.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: assessment, asr-003931 05:28:51.360 --> 05:28:52.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which are asr-003932 05:28:52.360 --> 05:28:53.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: foundations asr-003933 05:28:53.360 --> 05:28:54.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: , asr-003934 05:28:54.360 --> 05:28:55.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: religious asr-003935 05:28:55.360 --> 05:28:56.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: organizations asr-003936 05:28:56.360 --> 05:28:57.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: , asr-003937 05:28:57.360 --> 05:28:58.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: education asr-003938 05:28:58.360 --> 05:28:59.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: providers, asr-003939 05:28:59.360 --> 05:29:00.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: other asr-003940 05:29:00.360 --> 05:29:01.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: service asr-003941 05:29:01.360 --> 05:29:02.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NPO's asr-003942 05:29:02.360 --> 05:29:03.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: including asr-003943 05:29:03.360 --> 05:29:04.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: parent-teacher, asr-003944 05:29:04.360 --> 05:29:05.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: livelihood asr-003945 05:29:05.360 --> 05:29:06.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and neighborhood asr-003946 05:29:06.360 --> 05:29:07.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: associations, asr-003947 05:29:07.360 --> 05:29:08.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and other asr-003948 05:29:08.360 --> 05:29:09.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: expressive asr-003949 05:29:09.360 --> 05:29:10.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NPO's asr-003950 05:29:10.360 --> 05:29:11.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: political, asr-003951 05:29:11.360 --> 05:29:12.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: environmental, asr-003952 05:29:12.360 --> 05:29:13.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: alumni, asr-003953 05:29:13.360 --> 05:29:14.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: cultural, asr-003954 05:29:14.360 --> 05:29:15.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and asr-003955 05:29:15.360 --> 05:29:16.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: economic asr-003956 05:29:16.360 --> 05:29:17.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: organizations. asr-003957 05:29:17.360 --> 05:29:19.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I would like to ask questions asr-003958 05:29:19.000 --> 05:29:21.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: regarding anonymized and aggregated asr-003959 05:29:21.300 --> 05:29:23.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: statistical information, asr-003960 05:29:23.120 --> 05:29:26.600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and not specifically individual STRs, asr-003961 05:29:26.600 --> 05:29:29.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: account numbers, and other protected asr-003962 05:29:29.120 --> 05:29:31.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: customer information, as a caveat, asr-003963 05:29:31.960 --> 05:29:34.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-003964 05:29:34.320 --> 05:29:36.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My first question would be: asr-003965 05:29:36.300 --> 05:29:39.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can the distinguished sponsor provide asr-003966 05:29:39.960 --> 05:29:43.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: through AMLC how many foundations, asr-003967 05:29:43.200 --> 05:29:47.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: religious organizations, education providers, asr-003968 05:29:47.280 --> 05:29:51.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: other service NPOs and other expressive NPOs asr-003969 05:29:51.840 --> 05:29:55.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that exist currently, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? asr-004001 05:30:24.400 --> 05:30:30.000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: First, the accreditation of NGOs falls within the mandate of DSWD, asr-004002 05:30:30.000 --> 05:30:31.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Not AMLC. asr-004003 05:30:33.220 --> 05:30:40.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, to clarify, SEC released a terrorist financing sector risk assessment. asr-004004 05:30:42.020 --> 05:30:48.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Apparently, it is created because of AMLC's financial analysis. asr-004005 05:30:49.860 --> 05:30:58.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So now we'd like to ask that the report or the assessment covers certain SEC-registered NPO's. asr-004006 05:30:58.940 --> 05:31:15.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We assume that the AMLC had the opportunity to know the scope, the number of NPO's they identified to be vulnerable to terrorist financing. asr-004007 05:31:15.040 --> 05:31:28.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Which is why we're asking, is the AMLC aware how many foundations, religious organizations, education providers, other service NPO's and other expressive NPO's that exist? asr-004008 05:31:28.940 --> 05:31:42.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: To us, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, this is requisite information that hopefully the AMLC had the opportunity to check, assess before they gave their findings to the SEC. asr-004009 05:31:43.740 --> 05:31:54.400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, currently we have no data. We will be submitting to the office because the studies are still undergoing. asr-004010 05:31:55.400 --> 05:31:58.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we look forward. asr-004011 05:31:58.940 --> 05:32:02.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We look forward to the submission of data from the AMLC for this year. asr-004012 05:32:02.500 --> 05:32:09.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But can we also add the records of AMLC from the previous years? asr-004013 05:32:10.340 --> 05:32:11.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-004014 05:32:11.340 --> 05:32:22.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We'd like to maybe up until 2021 or 2020, which is when the AMLC provided that data and then afterwards submitted this report. asr-004015 05:32:23.660 --> 05:32:25.480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We'll do that, Mr. Speaker. asr-004016 05:32:25.900 --> 05:32:26.160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. asr-004017 05:32:27.660 --> 05:32:28.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-004018 05:32:28.940 --> 05:32:35.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, has there been any change in the definitions and classifications used? asr-004019 05:32:38.920 --> 05:32:40.580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Ma'am, Mr. Speaker. asr-004020 05:32:40.840 --> 05:32:42.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So there's been no change. asr-004021 05:32:43.000 --> 05:32:55.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The different definitions of the NPO's that I enumerated earlier, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, which the SEC defined and uses, asr-004022 05:32:55.220 --> 05:32:58.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is also the definition that the AMLC is operating. asr-004023 05:32:58.940 --> 05:33:01.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this correct, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? asr-004024 05:33:02.300 --> 05:33:03.940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker, it's correct. asr-004025 05:33:05.480 --> 05:33:20.660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, does the AMLC, therefore, systematically assess the effects of its measures on legitimate humanitarian development, human rights, research, advocacy, and other civil society activity? asr-004026 05:33:22.420 --> 05:33:24.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There's been no change in the definition. asr-004027 05:33:24.360 --> 05:33:28.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We're waiting for the data on the amount, on the number of NPO's. asr-004028 05:33:28.940 --> 05:33:30.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That it has. asr-004029 05:33:30.040 --> 05:33:46.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But because the data came from AMLC, which the SEC used to create this report, this report has an effect on the operations of these NPO's or NPO's in general, asr-004030 05:33:47.020 --> 05:33:53.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: given that the SEC, with the data of AMLC, tags them as vulnerable, so to speak. asr-004031 05:33:53.700 --> 05:33:58.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So may I ask, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, has the AMLC, or asr-004032 05:33:58.940 --> 05:34:05.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does the AMLC systematically assess the effects of its measures in the activities of these NPO's? asr-004033 05:34:06.200 --> 05:34:07.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-004034 05:34:07.320 --> 05:34:26.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: If so, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, can we know the indicators and findings that the AMLC has to check the effects of its measures on the legitimate humanitarian development, human rights, and other civil society activity? asr-004036 05:34:54.900 --> 05:34:57.700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Our AMLC, Counterterrorism Financing Laws, are primarily directed against terrorists, asr-004037 05:34:57.700 --> 05:35:00.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and those who finance terrorism. asr-004041 05:35:00.900 --> 05:35:08.920 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: NGOs that receive donations, deliver humanitarian assistance, maintain bank accounts, work with communities, asr-004042 05:35:09.480 --> 05:35:19.680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and safeguard the personnel and beneficiaries should not be unduly concerned that their legitimate activities will be affected or targeted under these laws. asr-004043 05:35:20.440 --> 05:35:25.540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Insofar as the AMLC is concerned, its actions are evidence-based. asr-004044 05:35:25.540 --> 05:35:27.540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The AMLC conducts... asr-004045 05:35:27.540 --> 05:35:42.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: thorough investigations and carefully evaluates the facts and evidence before initiating any terrorism financing case or pursuing any remedy available under the law. asr-004046 05:35:42.960 --> 05:35:43.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker. asr-004047 05:35:44.160 --> 05:35:53.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Therefore, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, I'd like to present a case study on the floor, which I assume the AMLC will be well familiar with. asr-004048 05:35:55.000 --> 05:35:57.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In the case of the Leyte Center for Development, asr-004049 05:35:57.520 --> 05:35:59.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: development, its assets asr-004050 05:35:59.520 --> 05:36:01.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and accounts including personal accounts asr-004051 05:36:01.420 --> 05:36:03.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and assets of its staff and Executive asr-004052 05:36:03.400 --> 05:36:05.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Director Hasmin Jerusalem asr-004053 05:36:05.120 --> 05:36:07.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as well as the accounts of LCD asr-004054 05:36:07.440 --> 05:36:09.480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: suppliers were ordered asr-004055 05:36:09.480 --> 05:36:11.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: frozen by the AMLC in 2024. asr-004056 05:36:12.880 --> 05:36:13.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The Manila asr-004057 05:36:13.500 --> 05:36:15.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: RTC Branch 28 asr-004058 05:36:15.380 --> 05:36:17.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: after AMLC filed asr-004059 05:36:17.520 --> 05:36:19.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the case, found no reason asr-004060 05:36:19.540 --> 05:36:21.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and substantive evidence for asr-004061 05:36:21.560 --> 05:36:23.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the freezing of the accounts and assets asr-004062 05:36:23.180 --> 05:36:25.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ordering their unfreezing on asr-004063 05:36:25.540 --> 05:36:26.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: February 20, 2026. asr-004064 05:36:27.880 --> 05:36:29.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: AMLC then filed a motion asr-004065 05:36:29.380 --> 05:36:31.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for reconsideration on March 6, asr-004066 05:36:31.380 --> 05:36:33.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2026 and the RTC asr-004067 05:36:33.440 --> 05:36:35.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: denied the motion for reconsideration asr-004068 05:36:35.400 --> 05:36:36.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in March 18, asr-004069 05:36:37.180 --> 05:36:39.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2026, affirming and reiterating asr-004070 05:36:39.740 --> 05:36:41.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its order to unfreeze asr-004071 05:36:41.380 --> 05:36:43.140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the accounts and assets of LCD asr-004072 05:36:43.140 --> 05:36:45.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: including personal accounts of its staff asr-004073 05:36:45.420 --> 05:36:47.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and Executive Officer and suppliers. asr-004074 05:36:48.380 --> 05:36:49.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yet, Mr. Speaker, asr-004075 05:36:50.040 --> 05:36:51.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, to this day asr-004076 05:36:51.580 --> 05:36:53.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the banks including asr-004077 05:36:53.280 --> 05:36:55.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the AMLC have not complied. asr-004078 05:36:56.140 --> 05:36:57.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Mr. Speaker, asr-004079 05:36:57.220 --> 05:36:57.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, good sponsor, asr-004080 05:36:57.500 --> 05:36:59.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: can the AMLC asr-004081 05:36:59.120 --> 05:37:00.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: clarify asr-004082 05:37:00.340 --> 05:37:03.460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on its rules for freezing asr-004083 05:37:03.460 --> 05:37:05.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and unfreezing of accounts for asr-004084 05:37:05.380 --> 05:37:06.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: transparency and accountability? asr-004085 05:37:07.820 --> 05:37:09.240 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The AMLC asr-004086 05:37:09.240 --> 05:37:10.780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: cannot disclose asr-004087 05:37:10.780 --> 05:37:12.500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: sub judice asr-004088 05:37:12.500 --> 05:37:15.380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: whether or not it is conducting a asr-004089 05:37:15.380 --> 05:37:17.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: financial investigation involving a asr-004090 05:37:17.360 --> 05:37:19.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: particular CSO or NGO asr-004091 05:37:19.320 --> 05:37:21.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: as such information is asr-004092 05:37:21.420 --> 05:37:23.540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: confidential. With respect asr-004093 05:37:23.540 --> 05:37:25.340 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to cases pending before the courts, asr-004094 05:37:25.340 --> 05:37:27.340 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the AMLC refrains asr-004095 05:37:27.500 --> 05:37:29.020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: from commenting on matters asr-004096 05:37:29.020 --> 05:37:30.780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: relating to such cases asr-004097 05:37:30.780 --> 05:37:33.500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: in observance of the sub judice rule asr-004098 05:37:33.500 --> 05:37:35.260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: which prohibits asr-004099 05:37:35.260 --> 05:37:37.440 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: public discussion that may asr-004100 05:37:37.440 --> 05:37:39.240 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: tend to influence or otherwise asr-004101 05:37:39.240 --> 05:37:41.400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: interfere with the courts asr-004102 05:37:41.400 --> 05:37:43.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: resolution of pending case. asr-004103 05:37:44.060 --> 05:37:45.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Rest assured, however, asr-004104 05:37:45.500 --> 05:37:47.400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: that any investigation conducted asr-004105 05:37:47.400 --> 05:37:49.380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: or case pursued by the asr-004106 05:37:49.380 --> 05:37:51.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: AMLC is based on the asr-004107 05:37:51.360 --> 05:37:53.000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: available facts and evidence asr-004108 05:37:53.000 --> 05:37:55.580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and undertaken only after a thorough asr-004109 05:37:55.580 --> 05:37:57.240 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and objective investigation. asr-004110 05:37:57.500 --> 05:37:58.600 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Evaluation thereof. asr-004111 05:37:59.160 --> 05:37:59.660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker. asr-004112 05:38:00.140 --> 05:38:01.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, to clarify, asr-004113 05:38:02.520 --> 05:38:04.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: how is this a continuing case asr-004114 05:38:04.760 --> 05:38:07.460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that is under the sub judice rule? asr-004115 05:38:08.440 --> 05:38:08.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Currently, asr-004116 05:38:09.580 --> 05:38:11.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the RTC has denied asr-004117 05:38:11.260 --> 05:38:12.980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with finality the motion for asr-004118 05:38:12.980 --> 05:38:15.660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: reconsideration filed by the AMLC. asr-004119 05:38:16.320 --> 05:38:17.240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, what is keeping asr-004120 05:38:17.240 --> 05:38:19.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the AMLC from complying to the asr-004121 05:38:19.060 --> 05:38:20.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: court's order to unfreeze the accounts of asr-004122 05:38:20.840 --> 05:38:21.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: LCDE? asr-004123 05:38:27.500 --> 05:38:30.060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Based on the evidence, asr-004124 05:38:30.320 --> 05:38:31.780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: there are still other agencies asr-004125 05:38:31.780 --> 05:38:32.860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: that are exploring it. asr-004126 05:38:33.540 --> 05:38:34.000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker. asr-004127 05:38:35.000 --> 05:38:37.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I'm sorry, can the sponsor repeat their answer asr-004128 05:38:37.620 --> 05:38:38.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as I had difficulty asr-004129 05:38:38.720 --> 05:38:40.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hearing it? asr-004130 05:38:44.700 --> 05:38:47.140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The AMLC is currently exploring asr-004131 05:38:47.140 --> 05:38:49.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: judicial evidence. asr-004132 05:38:49.900 --> 05:38:50.860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Judicial evidence. asr-004133 05:38:52.200 --> 05:38:52.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, asr-004134 05:38:53.840 --> 05:38:55.240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for AMLC, asr-004135 05:38:55.720 --> 05:38:57.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the case is not closed. asr-004136 05:38:57.500 --> 05:38:58.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this correct? asr-004137 05:38:58.520 --> 05:39:00.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? asr-004138 05:39:00.660 --> 05:39:01.500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It is on appeal. asr-004139 05:39:02.200 --> 05:39:03.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It is on appeal. asr-004140 05:39:04.580 --> 05:39:06.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, is that what's keeping the AMLC asr-004141 05:39:06.920 --> 05:39:08.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from complying to the court's order asr-004142 05:39:08.640 --> 05:39:10.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to unfreeze the accounts of asr-004143 05:39:10.740 --> 05:39:11.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: LCDE? asr-004144 05:39:16.820 --> 05:39:18.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: When was the appeal asr-004145 05:39:18.940 --> 05:39:20.600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: filed, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? asr-004165 05:40:16.700 --> 05:40:17.500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: AMLC. asr-004166 05:40:17.500 --> 05:40:24.680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Avail is right to avail of judicial remedies. asr-004167 05:40:24.680 --> 05:40:26.660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The others can also do as well. asr-004168 05:40:27.500 --> 05:40:34.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But to clarify, so this is the reason why AMLC has not complied yet with the court's order to unfreeze. asr-004169 05:40:35.080 --> 05:40:42.660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Because, yes, we understand that there are judicial remedies that can be available to agencies. asr-004170 05:40:43.220 --> 05:40:45.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But this is a court order, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-004171 05:40:49.700 --> 05:40:54.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And as we speak, NPO activities are being hampered. asr-004172 05:40:54.580 --> 05:41:05.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The personal lives of officers whose accounts are being frozen are impeded because of AMLC's continuous noncompliance with the court's order. asr-004173 05:41:06.200 --> 05:41:10.520 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, as to when the appeal was filed, we're still checking the data. asr-004174 05:41:12.000 --> 05:41:17.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, so we cannot on the floor share when the appeal was filed. asr-004175 05:41:17.860 --> 05:41:24.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I think this would be instrumental to understanding why AMLC has not yet complied. asr-004176 05:41:24.580 --> 05:41:25.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: With the court's order. asr-004177 05:41:26.760 --> 05:41:30.760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: I just want to remind of the subjudice, Mr. Speaker. asr-004178 05:41:32.020 --> 05:41:42.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, and we'd like to perhaps ask more information why it's still applicable given that there's an existing court order. asr-004179 05:41:42.440 --> 05:41:54.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And there has yet details shared as to why the subjudice applies when the motion for reconsideration has already been denied. asr-004180 05:41:54.580 --> 05:41:57.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-004181 05:42:10.600 --> 05:42:18.800 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, Mr. Speaker, we cannot discuss further the minutes of the case because it's still ongoing. asr-004182 05:42:18.800 --> 05:42:22.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-004183 05:42:22.840 --> 05:42:23.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Just to maybe... asr-004184 05:42:24.580 --> 05:42:26.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ask the final clarification. asr-004185 05:42:27.080 --> 05:42:28.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is the appeal filed? asr-004186 05:42:31.480 --> 05:42:32.840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-004187 05:42:33.320 --> 05:42:40.460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we'd like to receive from AMLC information as to the status of this case, asr-004188 05:42:41.000 --> 05:42:44.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which would be the reason why it would be under subjudice still. asr-004189 05:42:45.240 --> 05:42:47.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The date and other pertinent information as to this case. asr-004190 05:42:47.940 --> 05:42:49.100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Would that be possible, Mr. Speaker? asr-004191 05:42:49.100 --> 05:42:52.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker, we will be willing to submit our report. asr-004192 05:42:53.020 --> 05:42:54.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-004193 05:42:54.580 --> 05:42:55.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But we'd like... asr-004194 05:42:55.300 --> 05:43:06.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We ask these questions because this case is illustrative of the effect this sector risk assessment issued by SEC asr-004195 05:43:06.260 --> 05:43:14.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: using the information from AMLC to organizations that are a part of NPOs. asr-004196 05:43:15.320 --> 05:43:21.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, non-profit organizations that are expressive, religious, education providers, service-oriented. asr-004197 05:43:21.420 --> 05:43:24.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That at the end of the day, there's this case. asr-004198 05:43:24.580 --> 05:43:35.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Who went through court processes, their case was dismissed on reconsideration, it's been denied. asr-004199 05:43:35.700 --> 05:43:39.480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, right now, this organization still cannot function. asr-004200 05:43:40.160 --> 05:43:50.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The lives of the officers and their ability to function as human beings in a time where our assets are nearly all liquid asr-004201 05:43:50.060 --> 05:43:54.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and therefore we have to depend on banks, on financials. asr-004202 05:43:54.580 --> 05:44:02.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Financial institutions to maintain our daily duties, it's all being hampered. asr-004203 05:44:02.420 --> 05:44:14.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And when AMLC shared earlier that it has its business not interfering with the functions asr-004204 05:44:14.800 --> 05:44:21.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or even measuring the effects of their policies to organizations, that strikes me as disappointing asr-004205 05:44:21.440 --> 05:44:24.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because lives are being... asr-004206 05:44:24.500 --> 05:44:28.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: lives are being disrupted by AMLC's findings and policies. asr-004207 05:44:28.000 --> 05:44:39.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, I'd like to ask the AMLC, does it know the consequences for legitimate NPO activity asr-004208 05:44:39.060 --> 05:44:43.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and how does AMLC measure them, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? asr-004209 05:44:46.820 --> 05:44:54.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And how does AMLC assess whether its NPO measures are risk-based and proportionate? asr-004212 05:45:30.000 --> 05:45:44.560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, covered persons may file suspicious transaction reports involving corporations or organizations suspected of being involved in terrorism or that has been designated as such. asr-004213 05:45:44.560 --> 05:45:55.020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The AMLC may therefore thereafter act on these reports, and when investigation warrants, pursue the appropriate remedies available under applicable laws, asr-004214 05:45:55.460 --> 05:45:59.260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: including the issuance or implementation of freeze orders, asr-004215 05:45:59.260 --> 05:46:02.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and the institution of civil forfeiture proceedings. asr-004216 05:46:03.700 --> 05:46:06.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you for the clarification, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-004217 05:46:07.200 --> 05:46:14.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: However, this is information that may be gathered by a cursory glance at the AMLA. asr-004218 05:46:14.120 --> 05:46:27.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But we're asking about the practical and memoranda policy orders wherein AMLC is able to set standards for itself asr-004219 05:46:27.800 --> 05:46:29.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to change. asr-004220 05:46:29.260 --> 05:46:36.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: To check whether the measures that it implements against NPO's are risk-based and proportionate. asr-004221 05:46:36.620 --> 05:46:41.160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, how does AMLC assess this? asr-004222 05:46:41.160 --> 05:46:44.160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: What was shared to us was the process. asr-004223 05:46:44.160 --> 05:46:58.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But what does AMLC do to ensure that their actions are risk-based and proportionate and not just merely blanketly responsive to complaints or reports? asr-004224 05:46:59.260 --> 05:47:01.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from covered persons? asr-004247 05:47:55.500 --> 05:48:01.400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We conduct risk assessments to determine possible risk exposure of NGOs asr-004248 05:48:01.400 --> 05:48:05.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: based on facts; then AMLC will make policies. asr-004249 05:48:06.540 --> 05:48:20.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can this representation request, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, a copy of the standards that the AMLC uses to say that their measures are risk-based and proportionate? asr-004250 05:48:20.760 --> 05:48:29.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Whether this is a memorandum order, a framework, a policy plan, or whatever document the AMLC uses, asr-004251 05:48:29.280 --> 05:48:37.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to ensure that it does entail proportionate measures, this representation would like to receive a copy. asr-004252 05:48:37.320 --> 05:48:39.100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this possible, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? asr-004253 05:48:39.380 --> 05:48:40.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We'll do that, Mr. Speaker. asr-004254 05:48:41.420 --> 05:48:43.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-004255 05:48:43.180 --> 05:48:58.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question would be, can we know how many total NPO-linked suspicious transaction reports or SDRs since 2021 up to the latest available year have been filed? asr-004256 05:48:59.260 --> 05:49:05.040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: As of the moment, Mr. Speaker, we don't have the data. We will just submit to the office. asr-004257 05:49:05.640 --> 05:49:10.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay, we will look forward to that from 2021 up to the latest available year. asr-004258 05:49:10.540 --> 05:49:14.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Do we have data on how much money is involved here? asr-004259 05:49:17.780 --> 05:49:20.780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: None at the moment. asr-004260 05:49:21.200 --> 05:49:23.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, we'd like to receive that also via a report. asr-004261 05:49:23.740 --> 05:49:29.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How about for money laundering and terrorist financing SDRs? asr-004262 05:49:29.260 --> 05:49:36.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Do we know how many, what is the total number issued since 2021 and how much is involved? asr-004263 05:49:37.300 --> 05:49:39.120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We will also include that, Mr. Speaker. asr-004264 05:49:39.540 --> 05:49:41.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay, so we'll look forward to that. asr-004265 05:49:42.160 --> 05:49:47.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Generally, SDRs and then SDRs in relation to money laundering and terrorist financing charges. asr-004266 05:49:48.580 --> 05:49:49.600 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: That's Mr. Speaker. asr-004267 05:49:50.940 --> 05:49:57.680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Of course, we look forward to this data so we ensure that our laws are properly implemented. asr-004268 05:49:57.840 --> 05:49:59.240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But we'd like to ask also, Mr. Speaker. asr-004269 05:49:59.260 --> 05:50:03.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, will this data be publicly available and when? asr-004270 05:50:23.740 --> 05:50:27.540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We do submit annual accomplishment reports. asr-004271 05:50:27.540 --> 05:50:28.660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay. asr-004272 05:50:29.260 --> 05:50:30.480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We look forward to that as well. asr-004273 05:50:30.640 --> 05:50:43.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But given the, well, public attention to how AMLC is able to check the suspicious transactions asr-004274 05:50:43.820 --> 05:50:49.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that it receives via reports or even covered transactions it receives when covered persons asr-004275 05:50:49.800 --> 05:50:58.100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: give their due diligence, we'd like to open to AMLC if this information can be public. asr-004276 05:50:58.100 --> 05:50:59.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So we'd like to receive. asr-004277 05:50:59.260 --> 05:51:04.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I don't know if this is an official accomplishment report, but is, does AMLC plan to publish this information? asr-004278 05:51:04.540 --> 05:51:06.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Does it plan to make it public? asr-004279 05:51:06.540 --> 05:51:08.540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-004280 05:51:08.540 --> 05:51:10.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May I ask when? asr-004281 05:51:10.540 --> 05:51:12.540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It's being published. asr-004282 05:51:12.540 --> 05:51:14.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And may I ask also, how often does AMLC publish the results? asr-004283 05:51:14.540 --> 05:51:16.540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Annually. asr-004284 05:51:16.540 --> 05:51:18.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Annually. asr-004285 05:51:18.540 --> 05:51:20.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So mga anong date po kaya ito? asr-004286 05:51:20.540 --> 05:51:28.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And can we have the assurance that AMLC will publish their findings as soon as possible? asr-004290 05:51:37.260 --> 05:51:39.260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: They usually publish asr-004291 05:51:39.260 --> 05:51:41.260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: annually asr-004292 05:51:41.260 --> 05:51:44.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: before the budget hearing, Mr. Speaker. asr-004293 05:51:44.300 --> 05:51:46.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. asr-004294 05:51:46.940 --> 05:51:52.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So can we have the assurance, so well AMLC mentioned that it has an accomplishment report prior to this budget hearing. asr-004296 05:51:56.940 --> 05:51:58.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: However, I have asr-004297 05:51:59.260 --> 05:52:01.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: been hearing that there's a lot of data asr-004298 05:52:01.340 --> 05:52:03.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that this representation is requesting asr-004299 05:52:03.260 --> 05:52:05.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on the floor that AMLC is asr-004300 05:52:05.280 --> 05:52:07.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: unable to provide at this particular asr-004301 05:52:07.500 --> 05:52:09.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: instance. So asr-004302 05:52:09.120 --> 05:52:11.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation asr-004303 05:52:12.120 --> 05:52:13.660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would like to just note on record asr-004304 05:52:13.660 --> 05:52:14.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that asr-004305 05:52:14.820 --> 05:52:17.460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: though we would like asr-004306 05:52:17.460 --> 05:52:19.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to see asr-004307 05:52:19.300 --> 05:52:20.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the asr-004308 05:52:20.360 --> 05:52:22.600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: data of AMLC asr-004309 05:52:22.600 --> 05:52:25.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that as of now asr-004310 05:52:25.280 --> 05:52:27.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it seems like there is more that has asr-004311 05:52:27.300 --> 05:52:29.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to be provided and made asr-004312 05:52:29.200 --> 05:52:31.240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: public for further clarification. asr-004313 05:52:31.240 --> 05:52:33.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So can we have the assurance that AMLC asr-004314 05:52:33.320 --> 05:52:35.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: will publish their findings as soon asr-004315 05:52:35.320 --> 05:52:35.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as available? asr-004316 05:52:38.220 --> 05:52:39.480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-004317 05:52:40.520 --> 05:52:41.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, asr-004318 05:52:41.640 --> 05:52:42.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor. asr-004319 05:52:42.960 --> 05:52:45.240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question would be, we did asr-004320 05:52:45.240 --> 05:52:47.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: check the data asr-004321 05:52:47.360 --> 05:52:49.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that AMLC has published asr-004322 05:52:49.120 --> 05:52:51.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: prior to the budget season asr-004323 05:52:51.040 --> 05:52:53.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and in the executive summary it says asr-004324 05:52:53.380 --> 05:52:55.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that a total of 18 asr-004325 05:52:55.220 --> 05:52:57.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NPOs were identified asr-004326 05:52:57.300 --> 05:52:58.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in 112 asr-004327 05:52:58.420 --> 05:52:59.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 10 asr-004328 05:52:59.180 --> 05:53:01.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terrorism and terrorist financing asr-004329 05:53:01.120 --> 05:53:03.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: related STRs filed with the asr-004330 05:53:03.280 --> 05:53:05.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: AMLC. However, in a asr-004331 05:53:05.220 --> 05:53:07.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: statement on page 36 it says asr-004332 05:53:07.360 --> 05:53:09.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for 2017 to asr-004333 05:53:09.320 --> 05:53:11.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2020, 112 asr-004334 05:53:11.020 --> 05:53:13.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NPOs were identified asr-004335 05:53:13.320 --> 05:53:14.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the STRs relating to asr-004336 05:53:14.940 --> 05:53:16.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terrorism and terrorist financing. asr-004337 05:53:17.180 --> 05:53:18.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So there's a discrepancy on the numbers. asr-004338 05:53:19.500 --> 05:53:20.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa isa, sabi asr-004339 05:53:20.740 --> 05:53:23.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 18 NPOs were identified asr-004340 05:53:23.040 --> 05:53:25.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in 112 charges asr-004341 05:53:25.580 --> 05:53:26.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or STRs. asr-004342 05:53:26.840 --> 05:53:28.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And in another it says asr-004343 05:53:29.180 --> 05:53:31.100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 12 NPOs were identified. asr-004344 05:53:31.100 --> 05:53:32.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can we clarify, asr-004345 05:53:32.940 --> 05:53:35.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, which asr-004346 05:53:35.060 --> 05:53:37.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of this is the proper asr-004347 05:53:37.080 --> 05:53:37.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: data point? asr-004348 05:53:38.660 --> 05:53:40.480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We will check on that and validate. asr-004349 05:53:41.440 --> 05:53:43.140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. Mr. Speaker, good asr-004350 05:53:43.140 --> 05:53:43.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor, asr-004351 05:53:44.260 --> 05:53:46.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we see that asr-004352 05:53:46.620 --> 05:53:48.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with this and we're asr-004353 05:53:48.640 --> 05:53:51.160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: looking for and hoping for the information asr-004354 05:53:51.160 --> 05:53:52.680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to clarify asr-004355 05:53:52.680 --> 05:53:54.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but it seems like that asr-004356 05:53:54.760 --> 05:53:57.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: AMLC is prioritizing asr-004357 05:53:57.400 --> 05:53:59.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and targeting the small asr-004358 05:53:59.020 --> 05:54:00.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: smaller people's organizations asr-004359 05:54:00.960 --> 05:54:03.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that are victims of red tagging asr-004360 05:54:03.080 --> 05:54:04.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that at the end of the day asr-004361 05:54:04.620 --> 05:54:06.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: their charges are dismissed asr-004362 05:54:06.920 --> 05:54:08.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in courts and asr-004363 05:54:08.900 --> 05:54:10.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa halip na habulin nito asr-004364 05:54:10.920 --> 05:54:13.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang katotohan asr-004365 05:54:13.260 --> 05:54:15.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at malalaking money launderers asr-004366 05:54:15.400 --> 05:54:16.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na naglipana. asr-004367 05:54:16.780 --> 05:54:18.980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we're asr-004368 05:54:18.980 --> 05:54:20.680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: requesting the asr-004369 05:54:20.680 --> 05:54:22.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: information that was asr-004370 05:54:22.900 --> 05:54:24.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: promised above but we'd asr-004371 05:54:24.940 --> 05:54:26.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: also like to add asr-004372 05:54:26.360 --> 05:54:29.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and this representation asr-004373 05:54:29.020 --> 05:54:30.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd also just furnish a copy asr-004374 05:54:30.540 --> 05:54:32.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd like also to be asr-004375 05:54:32.860 --> 05:54:34.600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: furnished on the asr-004376 05:54:34.600 --> 05:54:36.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: updated annual figures for the asr-004377 05:54:36.960 --> 05:54:38.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: latest available year using asr-004378 05:54:38.880 --> 05:54:41.240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the same definitions and level of aggregation asr-004379 05:54:41.240 --> 05:54:42.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of NPOs asr-004380 05:54:42.740 --> 05:54:44.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and update on the primary asr-004381 05:54:44.780 --> 05:54:46.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sources of funds of asr-004382 05:54:46.760 --> 05:54:48.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NPOs generally asr-004383 05:54:48.540 --> 05:54:51.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the updated annual figures asr-004384 05:54:51.080 --> 05:54:52.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on the territorial area asr-004385 05:54:52.500 --> 05:54:54.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and operation or activities asr-004386 05:54:54.960 --> 05:54:57.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of NPOs for the latest available asr-004387 05:54:57.000 --> 05:54:58.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: year and the updated asr-004388 05:54:58.780 --> 05:55:00.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: annual figures on the amount of asr-004389 05:55:00.800 --> 05:55:02.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: funds annually used for asr-004390 05:55:02.640 --> 05:55:04.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2019 to the latest asr-004391 05:55:04.520 --> 05:55:06.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: available year and the total asr-004392 05:55:06.820 --> 05:55:08.600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: amount of donations, contributions asr-004393 05:55:08.600 --> 05:55:09.980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and grants for 2019 asr-004394 05:55:09.980 --> 05:55:12.160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to the latest available year asr-004395 05:55:12.160 --> 05:55:14.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: using the same definitions and level asr-004396 05:55:14.620 --> 05:55:16.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of aggregation. We ask these asr-004397 05:55:16.780 --> 05:55:18.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor asr-004398 05:55:18.120 --> 05:55:20.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because this representation asr-004399 05:55:20.880 --> 05:55:22.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from consulting asr-004400 05:55:22.260 --> 05:55:24.160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with people's organizations asr-004401 05:55:24.160 --> 05:55:26.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that are falling under asr-004402 05:55:26.560 --> 05:55:28.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the definition of these NPOs asr-004403 05:55:28.780 --> 05:55:30.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: they are not asr-004404 05:55:30.000 --> 05:55:32.140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: rich, they are not well asr-004405 05:55:32.140 --> 05:55:33.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: funded, nonetheless asr-004406 05:55:33.860 --> 05:55:35.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the good work they do asr-004407 05:55:35.920 --> 05:55:38.240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: they are hampered by these asr-004408 05:55:38.240 --> 05:55:40.140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: allegations, these SDRs asr-004409 05:55:40.140 --> 05:55:42.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by AMLC. So asr-004410 05:55:42.060 --> 05:55:44.480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd like the following data, Mr. Speaker asr-004411 05:55:44.480 --> 05:55:46.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, can asr-004412 05:55:46.440 --> 05:55:48.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: these be provided to this representation asr-004413 05:55:48.520 --> 05:55:50.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by the asr-004414 05:55:50.520 --> 05:55:51.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: end of the week? asr-004415 05:55:57.900 --> 05:55:58.580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, asr-004416 05:55:58.780 --> 05:56:00.680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, by the end of the week. asr-004417 05:56:00.680 --> 05:56:01.840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For the end of the week, probably. asr-004418 05:56:02.180 --> 05:56:04.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, I have no other further asr-004419 05:56:04.380 --> 05:56:06.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: questions, but we'd like to asr-004420 05:56:06.440 --> 05:56:08.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be updated as soon as possible asr-004421 05:56:08.640 --> 05:56:10.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with relation to our requests asr-004422 05:56:10.380 --> 05:56:12.460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to ensure that AMLC does indeed asr-004423 05:56:12.460 --> 05:56:13.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: target the biggest asr-004424 05:56:13.860 --> 05:56:16.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: money launderers in our country asr-004425 05:56:16.640 --> 05:56:18.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and not small-time asr-004426 05:56:18.540 --> 05:56:19.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: people's organizations asr-004427 05:56:19.540 --> 05:56:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: who for their advocacies asr-004428 05:56:22.700 --> 05:56:24.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are able to help the lives asr-004429 05:56:24.540 --> 05:56:26.480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of many Filipinos. That's all, Mr. Speaker, asr-004430 05:56:26.580 --> 05:56:28.680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, thank you for answering our questions. asr-004431 05:56:28.780 --> 05:56:30.520 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you, thank you very much asr-004432 05:56:30.520 --> 05:56:32.500 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and the recommitment made by the asr-004433 05:56:32.500 --> 05:56:34.800 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Vice Chair and hope it will be delivered to the asr-004434 05:56:34.800 --> 05:56:36.760 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: requesting member. asr-004435 05:56:37.380 --> 05:56:37.980 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. asr-004436 05:56:40.640 --> 05:56:41.880 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, asr-004437 05:56:43.040 --> 05:56:44.740 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: next to interpolate asr-004438 05:56:44.740 --> 05:56:46.620 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: the proposed budget of Anti-Money asr-004439 05:56:46.620 --> 05:56:47.800 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Laundering Council asr-004440 05:56:47.800 --> 05:56:49.240 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: is asr-004441 05:56:49.240 --> 05:56:52.080 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Representative asr-004442 05:56:52.080 --> 05:56:54.460 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Sarah Jane asr-004443 05:56:54.460 --> 05:56:56.480 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Ilago from Gabriela asr-004444 05:56:56.480 --> 05:56:57.400 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Partylist. asr-004444-split-2 05:56:57.400 --> 05:56:58.340 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Gentle lady from asr-004445 05:56:58.780 --> 05:57:00.960 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Gabriela Partylist, Honorable Ilago, is recognized. asr-004446 05:57:02.260 --> 05:57:03.760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-004447 05:57:04.280 --> 05:57:06.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: First, under Section 9, asr-004448 05:57:06.740 --> 05:57:07.960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Letter C of asr-004449 05:57:07.960 --> 05:57:10.580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Republic Act No. 11930 asr-004450 05:57:10.580 --> 05:57:12.860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: or the Anti-Online Sexual Abuse asr-004451 05:57:12.860 --> 05:57:14.580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and Exploitation of Children and asr-004452 05:57:14.580 --> 05:57:16.840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Anti-Child Sexual Abuse asr-004453 05:57:16.840 --> 05:57:18.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and Exploitation Materials Act, asr-004454 05:57:18.740 --> 05:57:20.500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: payment service providers or asr-004455 05:57:20.500 --> 05:57:23.020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: PSPs that have direct knowledge asr-004456 05:57:23.020 --> 05:57:24.800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of financial activities related asr-004457 05:57:24.800 --> 05:57:26.660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to OSAIC and CISAIM asr-004458 05:57:26.660 --> 05:57:28.020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: have a duty to report asr-004459 05:57:28.020 --> 05:57:29.940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: these to the DOJ asr-004460 05:57:29.940 --> 05:57:31.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: within 24 hours asr-004461 05:57:31.720 --> 05:57:33.800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and to the AMLC asr-004462 05:57:33.800 --> 05:57:35.880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: within 5 days. May we get asr-004463 05:57:35.880 --> 05:57:38.080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: an update and status of the reports asr-004464 05:57:38.080 --> 05:57:39.380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: received by the asr-004465 05:57:39.380 --> 05:57:41.880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: AMLC regarding financial asr-004466 05:57:41.880 --> 05:57:43.780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: activities related to OSAIC asr-004467 05:57:43.780 --> 05:57:44.500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and CISAIM? asr-004468 05:57:58.020 --> 05:58:08.700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, asr-004469 05:58:09.060 --> 05:58:10.920 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: we were not able to receive asr-004470 05:58:10.920 --> 05:58:14.940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: reports under the OSAIC law asr-004471 05:58:14.940 --> 05:58:18.680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: only from asr-004472 05:58:18.680 --> 05:58:21.160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: SDRs, asr-004473 05:58:21.300 --> 05:58:22.380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: suspicious transactions. asr-004474 05:58:22.380 --> 05:58:25.820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So, for the record, asr-004475 05:58:25.980 --> 05:58:26.580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, asr-004476 05:58:26.780 --> 05:58:27.620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: there is no one. asr-004477 05:58:28.020 --> 05:58:30.180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: None so far asr-004478 05:58:30.180 --> 05:58:32.540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: related to the violation asr-004479 05:58:32.540 --> 05:58:35.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of the Anti-OSAIC and Anti-CISAIM asr-004480 05:58:35.240 --> 05:58:35.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: law. asr-004481 05:58:36.320 --> 05:58:36.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Then, asr-004482 05:58:37.340 --> 05:58:40.500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: so, in the past year asr-004483 05:58:40.500 --> 05:58:42.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: since this law was passed, asr-004484 05:58:42.360 --> 05:58:43.900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: have there been any accounts asr-004485 05:58:43.900 --> 05:58:46.340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: linked to OSAIC and CISAIM that have been asr-004486 05:58:46.340 --> 05:58:48.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: closed or frozen by the AMLC? asr-004487 05:58:49.060 --> 05:58:52.640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Since the anti-OSAIC and CISAIM asr-004488 05:58:52.640 --> 05:58:54.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: law was passed in 2022, asr-004489 05:58:54.860 --> 05:58:56.040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: have there been any asr-004490 05:58:56.040 --> 05:58:57.620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: closings? asr-004491 05:58:58.020 --> 05:59:00.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: And do those accounts asr-004492 05:59:00.440 --> 05:59:01.840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ipasara na account na may kinalaman sa OSAEC at CSAEM? asr-004509 05:59:40.000 --> 05:59:45.360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We have accounted for four of the civil forfeiture petitions filed in 2025 asr-004510 05:59:45.360 --> 05:59:52.040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and three of the 28 petitions filed in the first semester of 2026. asr-004511 05:59:52.040 --> 05:59:59.980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: A separate breakdown of OSAEC and CSAEM cases is maintained by the operating unit. asr-004512 06:00:00.000 --> 06:00:03.060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and can be furnished to the Committee on Request. asr-004513 06:00:04.380 --> 06:00:08.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, this representation would like to request for a copy asr-004514 06:00:08.240 --> 06:00:13.100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of the status of the implementation of this law so far asr-004515 06:00:13.100 --> 06:00:19.360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: as well as details including dates of flagged and investigated transaction. asr-004516 06:00:20.100 --> 06:00:24.360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: We asked and are concerned of these matter asr-004517 06:00:24.360 --> 06:00:28.740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: because we want to ensure that the AMLC responds swiftly to cases asr-004518 06:00:28.740 --> 06:00:34.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: involving OSAIC and CISAEM, particularly those involving financial transactions. asr-004519 06:00:34.240 --> 06:00:41.540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: We believe that immediate action is necessary to ensure that suspicious financial activities asr-004520 06:00:41.540 --> 06:00:48.180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: linked to these grave offenses against children are promptly addressed and investigated asr-004521 06:00:48.180 --> 06:00:55.000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: as the Congress are now working to revise and strengthen this law. asr-004522 06:00:55.440 --> 06:00:58.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating listening response. asr-004523 06:00:58.740 --> 06:01:04.500 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you very much and same, there were commitments made asr-004524 06:01:04.500 --> 06:01:09.240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and I hope that the Vice Chair will be able to supply the needed asr-004525 06:01:09.240 --> 06:01:14.720 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and commitments to the good member. asr-004526 06:01:15.560 --> 06:01:16.160 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. asr-004527 06:01:17.420 --> 06:01:22.940 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, next to interpolate the proposed budget of the Anti-Money Laundering Council, asr-004528 06:01:22.940 --> 06:01:27.780 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: I move to recognize Representative Presley Desos asr-004529 06:01:29.100 --> 06:01:31.920 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: the gentleman from Phil Reca, asr-004530 06:01:31.920 --> 06:01:34.020 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Honorable Presley Desos, you have the floor. asr-004531 06:01:35.460 --> 06:01:37.980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you Mr. Speaker Madam Sponsor. asr-004532 06:01:39.760 --> 06:01:41.680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-004533 06:01:41.680 --> 06:01:44.140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: let me begin with the budget itself. asr-004534 06:01:44.480 --> 06:01:50.640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: AMLC has a current fiscal year 2026 budget of P333 million asr-004535 06:01:51.080 --> 06:01:56.560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: but for 2027, the proposed amount is only about P144 million. asr-004536 06:01:57.180 --> 06:01:58.600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, we are reducing AMLC asr-004537 06:01:58.740 --> 06:02:00.180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: budget by more than half. asr-004538 06:02:00.920 --> 06:02:02.640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Why is the budget going down so asr-004539 06:02:02.640 --> 06:02:03.500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: substantially, asr-004540 06:02:04.760 --> 06:02:06.360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor? asr-004541 06:02:08.640 --> 06:02:09.940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Bakit masyadong mababa asr-004542 06:02:09.940 --> 06:02:11.860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ang inyong budget, asr-004543 06:02:12.620 --> 06:02:14.820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: more than half, from P333 asr-004544 06:02:14.820 --> 06:02:16.060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: million, naging asr-004545 06:02:16.060 --> 06:02:17.540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: P144 million? asr-004546 06:02:19.900 --> 06:02:21.320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What's the reason behind? asr-004547 06:02:21.880 --> 06:02:24.560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, may I respectfully clarify the premise. asr-004548 06:02:25.120 --> 06:02:26.660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The P144 million is not asr-004549 06:02:26.660 --> 06:02:28.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the AMLC's proposal. asr-004550 06:02:28.740 --> 06:02:30.720 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It is the amount recommended by asr-004551 06:02:30.720 --> 06:02:32.660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the Department of Budget and Management asr-004552 06:02:32.660 --> 06:02:33.920 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: in the NEP. asr-004553 06:02:34.660 --> 06:02:36.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The AMLC proposed asr-004554 06:02:36.300 --> 06:02:37.260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 335 asr-004555 06:02:37.260 --> 06:02:40.400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: million 246. asr-004556 06:02:41.220 --> 06:02:42.320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, for asr-004557 06:02:42.320 --> 06:02:44.060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2027, you requested asr-004558 06:02:44.060 --> 06:02:44.720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: P300? asr-004559 06:02:47.560 --> 06:02:48.400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: P333. asr-004560 06:02:48.660 --> 06:02:48.980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: P33. asr-004561 06:02:49.840 --> 06:02:52.600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For 2027, it's P335. asr-004562 06:02:52.600 --> 06:02:53.020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I thought that was asr-004563 06:02:53.020 --> 06:02:56.260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: P333 million, that was asr-004564 06:02:56.260 --> 06:02:57.660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for 2026. asr-004565 06:02:57.660 --> 06:02:59.180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Am I right? asr-004566 06:03:03.820 --> 06:03:05.660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, P333 for 2026 asr-004567 06:03:06.180 --> 06:03:07.780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and P335 for asr-004568 06:03:07.780 --> 06:03:09.020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 2027. asr-004569 06:03:09.460 --> 06:03:11.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Only a 0.64% more. asr-004570 06:03:12.600 --> 06:03:13.680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, for 2027, asr-004571 06:03:13.980 --> 06:03:15.660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: how much your budget asr-004572 06:03:15.660 --> 06:03:16.380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: requested? asr-004573 06:03:17.040 --> 06:03:19.340 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We requested for P335 to P460. asr-004574 06:03:19.540 --> 06:03:20.960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We were given only... asr-004575 06:03:20.960 --> 06:03:22.460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: No, for 2027 alone. asr-004576 06:03:23.240 --> 06:03:24.320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For next year's budget. asr-004577 06:03:24.320 --> 06:03:25.780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: That has been asr-004578 06:03:25.780 --> 06:03:27.620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: more or less approved? asr-004579 06:03:27.660 --> 06:03:29.660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For 2027? asr-004580 06:03:39.660 --> 06:03:41.000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We proposed P335. asr-004581 06:03:41.380 --> 06:03:43.660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: But the one... asr-004582 06:03:44.340 --> 06:03:45.600 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The figure asr-004583 06:03:45.600 --> 06:03:47.260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: is approved is only P144. asr-004584 06:03:49.120 --> 06:03:50.140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: P144 million. asr-004585 06:03:50.280 --> 06:03:51.140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For 2027? asr-004586 06:03:51.500 --> 06:03:53.620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yeah, how come there was a asr-004587 06:03:53.620 --> 06:03:55.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: big discrepancy between asr-004588 06:03:55.420 --> 06:03:57.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2026 of P333? asr-004589 06:03:57.660 --> 06:04:00.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: P333 million and for 2027, asr-004590 06:04:00.420 --> 06:04:04.500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it went down to P144 million. asr-004591 06:04:04.500 --> 06:04:06.500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Anong bakit to bumaba? asr-004592 06:04:06.500 --> 06:04:07.860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay, the thing is, asr-004593 06:04:07.860 --> 06:04:10.260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: um, the figures... asr-004594 06:04:13.260 --> 06:04:14.620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The NEP figures correspond to asr-004595 06:04:14.620 --> 06:04:16.620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the AMLC's forward estimate, asr-004596 06:04:16.980 --> 06:04:18.180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: which was computed around asr-004597 06:04:18.180 --> 06:04:20.220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: three years ago, and none of asr-004598 06:04:20.220 --> 06:04:23.220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the agency's peer-to-proposals asr-004599 06:04:23.220 --> 06:04:24.740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: amounting to P190 million asr-004600 06:04:24.740 --> 06:04:25.740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: was considered. asr-004601 06:04:26.380 --> 06:04:27.540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The NEP provides no capital outlay at all. asr-004603 06:04:29.060 --> 06:04:30.180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And the AMLC, therefore, asr-004604 06:04:30.180 --> 06:04:31.820 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: respectfully seeks the restoration asr-004605 06:04:31.820 --> 06:04:35.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: of the 190 million, 559. asr-004606 06:04:35.420 --> 06:04:36.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay, thank you. asr-004607 06:04:37.740 --> 06:04:39.740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Let me proceed to my next question. asr-004608 06:04:40.980 --> 06:04:42.780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Can we then identify those asr-004609 06:04:42.780 --> 06:04:45.020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: one-time expenditures? asr-004610 06:04:45.020 --> 06:04:47.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because AMLA responsibilities asr-004611 06:04:47.100 --> 06:04:49.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: are not going... asr-004612 06:04:49.100 --> 06:04:50.780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Are not getting smaller. asr-004613 06:04:50.780 --> 06:04:52.580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: AMLA owns latest asr-004614 06:04:52.580 --> 06:04:54.300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: national risk assessment, asr-004615 06:04:54.300 --> 06:04:56.300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: identifies continuing risks involving the AMLA, asr-004616 06:04:56.300 --> 06:04:59.820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: involving fraud, drugs, corruption, asr-004617 06:04:59.820 --> 06:05:03.220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: tax crime, virtual assets, casinos, asr-004618 06:05:03.220 --> 06:05:05.300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: real estate, and other sectors. asr-004619 06:05:05.300 --> 06:05:08.500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: It specifically calls for stronger asr-004620 06:05:08.500 --> 06:05:11.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: financial investigation, asset tracing, asr-004621 06:05:11.100 --> 06:05:14.140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: data integration, and analytics. asr-004622 06:05:14.140 --> 06:05:17.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So the budget needs to reflect that. asr-004623 06:05:17.100 --> 06:05:19.100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Would you agree, distinguished sponsor? asr-004624 06:05:22.020 --> 06:05:23.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes. asr-004625 06:05:23.300 --> 06:05:25.260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay, thank you. asr-004626 06:05:25.260 --> 06:05:26.140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, let's go... Actually... asr-004627 06:05:26.140 --> 06:05:27.060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to my next question. asr-004628 06:05:27.060 --> 06:05:28.380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Let me move to something asr-004629 06:05:28.380 --> 06:05:31.500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that the public can understand more easily. asr-004630 06:05:31.500 --> 06:05:35.260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Criminal assets, AMLA has been active... asr-004631 06:05:35.260 --> 06:05:38.220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: active in tracing and freezing assets asr-004632 06:05:38.220 --> 06:05:41.340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in case involving alleged corruption asr-004633 06:05:41.340 --> 06:05:42.620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in government projects. asr-004634 06:05:42.620 --> 06:05:44.820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In January 2026, asr-004635 06:05:44.820 --> 06:05:48.020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: AMLA reported that assets frozen asr-004636 06:05:48.020 --> 06:05:50.900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in connection with alleged anomalous project asr-004637 06:05:50.900 --> 06:05:54.860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: had reached approximately 24.7 billion. asr-004638 06:05:54.860 --> 06:05:56.060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But freezing an asset, asr-004639 06:05:56.060 --> 06:05:59.540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is not the same as recovering the asset. asr-004640 06:05:59.540 --> 06:06:00.580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Am I right? asr-004641 06:06:00.580 --> 06:06:02.780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker, correct. asr-004642 06:06:02.780 --> 06:06:05.020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Of the assets frozen asr-004643 06:06:05.020 --> 06:06:06.700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in corruption-related cases, asr-004644 06:06:06.700 --> 06:06:08.980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: how much has actually reached final asr-004645 06:06:08.980 --> 06:06:12.900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: forfeiture in favor of the government? asr-004646 06:06:12.900 --> 06:06:16.380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, most of the corruption-related assets asr-004647 06:06:16.380 --> 06:06:19.700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: are still at the freezing or preservation stage asr-004648 06:06:19.700 --> 06:06:22.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: because the cases were filed only recently. asr-004649 06:06:22.460 --> 06:06:25.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In 2025, 15 of the 30 freeze orders, asr-004650 06:06:25.900 --> 06:06:27.620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: issued by the Court of Appeals, asr-004651 06:06:27.620 --> 06:06:28.980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: involve corruption, asr-004652 06:06:28.980 --> 06:06:31.700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: including 14 of the flood control anomalies, asr-004653 06:06:31.700 --> 06:06:36.540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: covering 20.26 billion. asr-004654 06:06:36.540 --> 06:06:39.180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In the first semester of 2026, asr-004655 06:06:39.180 --> 06:06:42.580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 18 of the 28 petitions for civil forfeiture asr-004656 06:06:42.580 --> 06:06:44.780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: filed were corruption cases, asr-004657 06:06:44.780 --> 06:06:48.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: covering 15.76 billion in preserved assets. asr-004658 06:06:48.460 --> 06:06:52.740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 57% of all assets preserved during the period. asr-004659 06:06:52.740 --> 06:06:54.500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: As of June 30, 2026, five active cases, asr-004660 06:06:54.500 --> 06:06:55.220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: including the one that was filed, asr-004661 06:06:55.220 --> 06:06:58.300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: five active freeze orders in corruption cases, asr-004662 06:06:58.300 --> 06:07:01.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: over another 1.01 billion. asr-004663 06:07:01.420 --> 06:07:04.700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: These cases are pending before the RTC asr-004664 06:07:04.700 --> 06:07:07.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and judgment of forfeiture will follow trial. asr-004665 06:07:07.900 --> 06:07:12.860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The flood control cases alone accounted for 22 petitions, asr-004666 06:07:12.860 --> 06:07:16.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: covering about 16 billion in preserved assets, asr-004667 06:07:16.100 --> 06:07:19.260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: as of September 16, 2026. asr-004668 06:07:19.260 --> 06:07:22.980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Across all of its cases since 2006, asr-004669 06:07:22.980 --> 06:07:24.940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the courts have issued 106 forfeiture cases, asr-004670 06:07:24.940 --> 06:07:29.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: forfeiture orders covering 2.17 billion. asr-004671 06:07:29.100 --> 06:07:33.500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Of these, 774 million has been returned to victims, asr-004672 06:07:33.500 --> 06:07:37.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 166 million has been turned over to the national government, asr-004673 06:07:37.460 --> 06:07:39.860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and 119 million has been transferred asr-004674 06:07:39.860 --> 06:07:41.940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to the Office of the Ombudsman, asr-004675 06:07:41.940 --> 06:07:45.780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: while the balance is still at various stages of execution. asr-004676 06:07:45.780 --> 06:07:46.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker. asr-004677 06:07:46.900 --> 06:07:51.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mrs. Speaker, Madam Sponsor. asr-004678 06:07:51.420 --> 06:07:53.780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If AMLC cannot provide the percentage, asr-004679 06:07:53.780 --> 06:07:54.900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: does it presently measure this? asr-004680 06:07:54.900 --> 06:07:59.220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I think one measure of AMLOC effectiveness asr-004681 06:07:59.220 --> 06:08:02.460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in the number of criminal networks first identified asr-004682 06:08:02.460 --> 06:08:04.540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: through its own financial intelligence asr-004683 06:08:04.540 --> 06:08:06.780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: instead of just being reactive. asr-004684 06:08:06.780 --> 06:08:11.580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Would you agree with that, Madam Sponsor? asr-004685 06:08:11.580 --> 06:08:14.060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-004686 06:08:14.060 --> 06:08:17.900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: This is an important distinction, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor. asr-004687 06:08:17.900 --> 06:08:22.180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If PNP, NBI, PIDEA, and the Ombudsman, asr-004688 06:08:22.180 --> 06:08:24.900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or another agency already identifies us, asr-004689 06:08:24.900 --> 06:08:29.220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: we recognize that we are a suspect and AMLOC then traces the person's account. asr-004690 06:08:29.220 --> 06:08:30.740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That is important work. asr-004691 06:08:30.740 --> 06:08:32.060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: We recognize that. asr-004692 06:08:32.060 --> 06:08:37.820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But AMLOC also received enormous amounts of financial information asr-004693 06:08:37.820 --> 06:08:41.140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: from banks and other covered persons. asr-004694 06:08:41.140 --> 06:08:47.660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So AMLOC should also be capable of identifying suspicious financial activity asr-004695 06:08:47.660 --> 06:08:52.300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: on their own and investigation based on the information. asr-004696 06:08:52.300 --> 06:08:54.220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How often does that happen? asr-004697 06:08:54.900 --> 06:08:58.220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It happens regularly and increasingly. asr-004698 06:08:58.220 --> 06:09:04.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In the first semester of 2026, 751 of the AMLOCs, asr-004699 06:09:04.100 --> 06:09:10.020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 1,165 financial intelligence products were generated on its own initiative, asr-004700 06:09:10.020 --> 06:09:13.420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: including 300 spontaneous disclosures, asr-004701 06:09:13.420 --> 06:09:18.820 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: cases in which the AMLOC itself identified suspicious activity asr-004702 06:09:18.820 --> 06:09:24.220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and referred it to law enforcement or foreign counterparts without a prior request. asr-004703 06:09:24.220 --> 06:09:26.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The limiting factor is capacity. asr-004704 06:09:26.900 --> 06:09:37.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Suspicious transaction reports received rose from 10.9 million in 2023 to 62.9 million in 2025. asr-004705 06:09:37.100 --> 06:09:40.020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In the flood control investigation alone, asr-004706 06:09:40.020 --> 06:09:44.980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the AMLOC analyzed 5,148 suspicious transaction reports asr-004707 06:09:44.980 --> 06:09:50.580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and 492,346 covered transaction reports asr-004708 06:09:50.580 --> 06:09:52.580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to produce 52 financial intelligence products, asr-004712 06:09:54.940 --> 06:09:57.900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: on 393 persons of interest. asr-004713 06:09:57.900 --> 06:10:05.580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Scaling that kind of analysis is what the 2027 budget is for. asr-004714 06:10:05.580 --> 06:10:09.780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mrs. Speaker, Madam Sponsor. asr-004715 06:10:09.780 --> 06:10:12.980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, I'm going back to my first question. asr-004716 06:10:12.980 --> 06:10:15.460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So let me ask very directly, asr-004717 06:10:15.460 --> 06:10:23.300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is the proposed 144 million budget sufficient for the risk AMLOC itself has identified? asr-004718 06:10:23.300 --> 06:10:24.460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasya ho ba ito asr-004719 06:10:24.460 --> 06:10:29.000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sa dami ng ginagawa ninyo, yung budget ninyo? asr-004721 06:10:39.300 --> 06:10:40.740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: No, no, Mr. Speaker. asr-004722 06:10:40.740 --> 06:10:45.260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So what are you going to do with the major budget you have? asr-004723 06:10:45.260 --> 06:10:47.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So how about that? asr-004724 06:10:47.420 --> 06:10:51.940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is it tied in your hands again, just like the ARTA? asr-004725 06:10:53.300 --> 06:11:09.460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, Mr. Speaker, asr-004726 06:11:09.940 --> 06:11:11.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: we want to asr-004727 06:11:11.100 --> 06:11:13.180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: appeal to the House asr-004728 06:11:13.180 --> 06:11:15.180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to respectfully seek the asr-004729 06:11:15.180 --> 06:11:16.560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: restoration of the asr-004730 06:11:16.560 --> 06:11:19.040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 190 million asr-004731 06:11:19.040 --> 06:11:21.560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 500 asr-004732 06:11:21.560 --> 06:11:23.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, 198 million plus asr-004733 06:11:23.420 --> 06:11:25.540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the 144 million. asr-004734 06:11:26.000 --> 06:11:26.840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-004735 06:11:27.180 --> 06:11:29.380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That's around 300 something. asr-004736 06:11:29.920 --> 06:11:31.660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Almost to 333 million. asr-004737 06:11:32.260 --> 06:11:33.720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, for my asr-004738 06:11:33.720 --> 06:11:34.440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: last question, asr-004739 06:11:36.240 --> 06:11:37.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: so, I know that asr-004740 06:11:37.420 --> 06:11:39.660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: AMLA, when it comes to local banks, asr-004741 06:11:40.180 --> 06:11:41.260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: so you can ask asr-004742 06:11:41.260 --> 06:11:43.300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the freezing of assets. How about asr-004743 06:11:43.300 --> 06:11:44.700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the offshore bank outside asr-004744 06:11:44.700 --> 06:11:46.580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Philippines? Do you have any asr-004745 06:11:46.580 --> 06:11:49.260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: inter... asr-004746 06:11:49.260 --> 06:11:51.260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or you have any asr-004747 06:11:51.260 --> 06:11:52.740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: agreement with other? asr-004748 06:12:00.340 --> 06:12:01.580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Generally, there's no asr-004749 06:12:01.580 --> 06:12:03.200 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: jurisdiction, but we coordinate asr-004750 06:12:03.200 --> 06:12:04.100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: with them. asr-004750-split-2 06:12:04.100 --> 06:12:05.320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, in case asr-004751 06:12:05.320 --> 06:12:07.620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: if one person, banks asr-004752 06:12:07.620 --> 06:12:09.720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in different country, asr-004753 06:12:10.140 --> 06:12:11.360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: so in Caribbean, wala na. asr-004754 06:12:12.020 --> 06:12:13.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Do they have authority? asr-004755 06:12:13.760 --> 06:12:15.560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Only local? Or you asr-004756 06:12:15.560 --> 06:12:17.560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: can coordinate to other AMLA? asr-004757 06:12:17.560 --> 06:12:18.520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Maybe? asr-004757-split-2 06:12:18.520 --> 06:12:19.320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We coordinate asr-004758 06:12:19.320 --> 06:12:20.200 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: with international. asr-004759 06:12:21.260 --> 06:12:22.800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And maybe it takes time, right? asr-004760 06:12:23.580 --> 06:12:25.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, Mr. Speaker, asr-004761 06:12:25.580 --> 06:12:27.660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: this is what I'm trying asr-004762 06:12:27.660 --> 06:12:29.680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to say. We're trying to asr-004763 06:12:29.680 --> 06:12:31.460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: put them in a harm's way, asr-004764 06:12:32.160 --> 06:12:33.280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: pero the budget nila, asr-004765 06:12:34.120 --> 06:12:35.660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 334 naging asr-004766 06:12:35.660 --> 06:12:37.280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 144, so asr-004767 06:12:37.280 --> 06:12:39.520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: alaking bagay. So, again, may asr-004768 06:12:39.520 --> 06:12:41.280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: appealing to the asr-004769 06:12:41.280 --> 06:12:43.220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: chairwoman of the appropriation. asr-004770 06:12:43.340 --> 06:12:45.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sana dagdagan ang budget nyo, just like ATA. asr-004771 06:12:45.580 --> 06:12:47.520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, you can work properly, asr-004772 06:12:47.520 --> 06:12:48.820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: you can deliver asr-004773 06:12:48.820 --> 06:12:49.960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: properly. asr-004774 06:12:51.260 --> 06:12:51.760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, asr-004775 06:12:53.580 --> 06:12:55.540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there's no more, there's being no more asr-004776 06:12:55.540 --> 06:12:57.680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: members of the minority asr-004777 06:12:57.680 --> 06:12:59.180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes asr-004778 06:12:59.180 --> 06:13:00.820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to interpolate. asr-004779 06:13:01.680 --> 06:13:03.180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate asr-004780 06:13:03.180 --> 06:13:05.360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the period of sponsorship and debate asr-004781 06:13:05.360 --> 06:13:07.620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the budget of asr-004782 06:13:07.620 --> 06:13:09.360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: anti-money asr-004783 06:13:09.360 --> 06:13:10.880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: laundering council. asr-004784 06:13:11.620 --> 06:13:12.940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Mr. Speaker. asr-004785 06:13:13.160 --> 06:13:14.760 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you. What does the House say? asr-004786 06:13:16.020 --> 06:13:17.620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, Kong Presley. asr-004787 06:13:19.380 --> 06:13:20.660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-004788 06:13:21.260 --> 06:13:24.940 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader, what does the House say? asr-004789 06:13:26.220 --> 06:13:27.040 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, asr-004790 06:13:27.200 --> 06:13:29.100 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: on the part of the majority, we join asr-004791 06:13:29.100 --> 06:13:31.100 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: the minority in the motion to terminate asr-004792 06:13:31.100 --> 06:13:33.500 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: the period of interpellations asr-004793 06:13:33.500 --> 06:13:34.940 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: of the proposed budget asr-004794 06:13:34.940 --> 06:13:37.200 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: of the anti-money laundering asr-004795 06:13:37.200 --> 06:13:38.958 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: council. asr-004796 06:13:38.958 --> 06:13:40.940 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Motion to terminate the interpellations asr-004797 06:13:40.940 --> 06:13:43.380 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: on the proposed budget of the Anti-Money asr-004798 06:13:43.380 --> 06:13:44.620 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: laundering council. asr-004799 06:13:45.420 --> 06:13:46.400 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Is there any objection? asr-004800 06:13:47.700 --> 06:13:48.580 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is none. asr-004801 06:13:48.580 --> 06:13:50.640 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The period of interpellations on the proposed asr-004802 06:13:50.640 --> 06:13:51.240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: budget asr-004803 06:13:51.260 --> 06:13:53.120 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of the Anti-Money Laundering Council asr-004804 06:13:53.120 --> 06:13:55.180 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: is hereby terminated. asr-004805 06:13:56.180 --> 06:13:56.620 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Congratulations. asr-004806 06:13:57.560 --> 06:13:59.280 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, I move to asr-004807 06:13:59.280 --> 06:14:00.480 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: suspend the session. asr-004807-split-2 06:14:00.480 --> 06:14:01.240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session suspended. asr-004818 06:18:17.280 --> 06:18:19.840 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session resumed. Majority Leader. asr-004818-split-2 06:18:19.840 --> 06:18:27.520 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. asr-004818-split-3 06:18:27.520 --> 06:18:29.760 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a motion to consider the proposed budget asr-004819 06:18:29.760 --> 06:18:37.200 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. Objection? Chair hears none. Motion is [unclear]. Majority Leader. asr-004819-split-2 06:18:37.200 --> 06:19:00.000 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency, namely Director General Ricardo de Leon, Deputy Director General Rudolf Futor, Deputy Director General Roberton Lapus, Executive Director Chodor asr-004820 06:19:00.000 --> 06:19:36.478 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Libardo, Executive Director Jesus Leonardo Auxilio, Assistant Director General Angeles, Assistant Director General Pedro Gabayan, Assistant Director General Anna Lisa Umpar, Assistant Director General Ariel Perlado, Assistant Director General Denis Godfrey Gamad, Assistant Director General Edel Batal and Assistant Director General Jericho Kawan. asr-004821 06:19:36.478 --> 06:19:52.800 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Our officers from the National Intelligence Coordinating Council, led by Director General Ricardo F. De Leon. Sir, in behalf of Speaker Bod and Majority Leader Sandro Marcos, welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader. asr-004821-split-2 06:19:52.800 --> 06:20:00.000 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable asr-004822 06:20:00.000 --> 06:20:12.040 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Vice Chair Bella Vanessa Suansing, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. asr-004822-split-2 06:20:12.040 --> 06:20:20.080 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentle lady from the second district of Sultan Kudarat, Honorable Vice Chair Bella Vanessa Suansing, you are recognized. asr-004822-split-3 06:20:20.080 --> 06:20:30.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, magandang gabi. It is a privilege of this representation to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the National asr-004823 06:20:30.000 --> 06:20:38.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Intelligence Coordinating Agency. We are now ready to answer questions regarding the budget. Thank you. asr-004823-split-2 06:20:38.160 --> 06:20:49.840 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you. Majority Leader. asr-004823-split-3 06:20:49.840 --> 06:21:00.000 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley De Jesus, party-list PHILRECA, asr-004824 06:21:00.000 --> 06:21:03.320 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: to interpellate the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. asr-004824-split-2 06:21:03.320 --> 06:21:11.200 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Honorable gentleman from party-list PHILRECA, Honorable Presley De Jesus, you are recognized. asr-004824-split-3 06:21:11.200 --> 06:21:30.960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There being no more members of the minority who wish to interpellate, I move to terminate the period of sponsorship debate for the budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating asr-004825 06:21:30.960 --> 06:21:34.200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Agency. I so move, Mr. Speaker. asr-004825-split-2 06:21:34.200 --> 06:21:43.000 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: What does the House say? asr-004825-split-3 06:21:43.000 --> 06:21:53.720 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellations on the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. asr-004825-split-4 06:21:53.720 --> 06:22:00.000 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. asr-004826 06:22:00.000 --> 06:22:24.520 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Is there any objection? There is none. Motion is approved. The interpellation of the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency is terminated. Majority Leader. asr-004826-split-2 06:22:24.520 --> 06:22:26.080 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the session for a asr-004827 06:22:26.080 --> 06:22:26.878 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: few minutes. asr-004827-split-2 06:22:26.878 --> 06:22:27.500 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session suspended. asr-004836 06:25:04.400 --> 06:25:06.360 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session resumed. asr-004837 06:25:06.360 --> 06:25:07.880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. asr-004838 06:25:07.880 --> 06:25:12.000 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the National Security Council. asr-004839 06:25:12.000 --> 06:25:16.560 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a motion to consider the budget of the National Security Council. asr-004840 06:25:16.560 --> 06:25:18.400 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Is there any objection? There is none. asr-004841 06:25:18.400 --> 06:25:21.200 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Motion is carried. Majority Leader. asr-004842 06:25:21.200 --> 06:25:24.080 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials asr-004843 06:25:24.080 --> 06:25:26.840 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: of the National Security Council, namely asr-004844 06:25:26.840 --> 06:25:33.160 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: National Security Advisor and Director General Eduardo SL Oban Jr. asr-004861 06:25:33.160 --> 06:25:48.880 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Deputy Director General and Chief of Staff Benjamin Madrigal Jr., Deputy Director General Pedro S. Soria II, Deputy Director General Nestor Herico, Assistant Director General Francisco F. Mendoza Jr., asr-004862 06:25:48.880 --> 06:26:00.440 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Officer in Charge, Assistant Director General Maria Lourdes V. Santelises, and Executive Director Danilo Pamonag. I so move, Mr. Speaker. asr-004863 06:26:00.440 --> 06:26:08.880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Maayong gabi. In behalf of our Speaker Bod and Majority Leader Sandro Marcos, we acknowledge the presence asr-004864 06:26:08.880 --> 06:26:18.280 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and heads of the National Security Council, National Security Advisor and Director General Eduardo Oban Jr., asr-004865 06:26:18.280 --> 06:26:26.760 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: our former commanding officer, Deputy Director General and Chief of Staff General Madrigal, asr-004866 06:26:26.760 --> 06:26:29.160 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Deputy Director General Pedro Soria, asr-004867 06:26:29.160 --> 06:26:35.200 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Deputy Director General Nestor Herico, Assistant Director General Francisco Mendoza, asr-004868 06:26:35.200 --> 06:26:41.260 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Official in Charge Assistant Director General Maria Lourdes Santelises, and Executive Director Danilo Pamonag. asr-004869 06:26:41.260 --> 06:26:43.940 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader. asr-004870 06:26:45.260 --> 06:26:48.440 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate. asr-004871 06:26:54.680 --> 06:26:57.880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There's a motion to open the period of sponsorship and debate. asr-004872 06:26:57.900 --> 06:27:00.708 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Is there any objection? Chair hears none. Motion is carried. asr-004873 06:27:00.718 --> 06:27:09.140 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chair Bella Vanessa Suansing from the 2nd District of Sultan Kudarat asr-004874 06:27:09.140 --> 06:27:16.430 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: on the Committee of Appropriations to sponsor the proposed budget of the National Security Council. asr-004875 06:27:16.440 --> 06:27:24.750 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentle lady from the 2nd District from Sultan Kudarat, Honorable Vice Chair Bella Vanessa, ma'am, you are recognized. asr-004876 06:27:24.760 --> 06:27:27.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, asr-004877 06:27:27.900 --> 06:27:36.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: good evening. It is a privilege of this representation to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the National Security Council. asr-004878 06:27:37.360 --> 06:27:41.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We are now ready to answer questions regarding this proposed budget. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-004879 06:27:42.040 --> 06:27:43.980 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you very much. Majority Leader. asr-004880 06:27:45.560 --> 06:27:54.800 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Representative of Kabataan Partylist Representative Rene Luis M. Co. asr-004881 06:27:54.800 --> 06:27:59.080 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: to interpolate on the proposed budget of the National Security Council. asr-004882 06:27:59.080 --> 06:28:08.280 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentle lady from Kabataan Partylist Representative Rene Luis M. Co. is recognized. Ma'am, you have the floor. asr-004883 06:28:08.280 --> 06:28:12.600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good evening to our distinguished sponsor. asr-004884 06:28:13.460 --> 06:28:22.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, may the sponsor yield to a few questions in relation to the budget of the National Security Council and spending. asr-004885 06:28:23.520 --> 06:28:25.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, gladly, Mr. Speaker. asr-004886 06:28:25.360 --> 06:28:27.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor to refresh. asr-004887 06:28:27.900 --> 06:28:31.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The August Chamber, what is the budget of the National Security Council? asr-004888 06:28:33.380 --> 06:28:41.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The fiscal year 2027 budget of the National Security Council proposed amount is 1.136 billion pesos. asr-004889 06:28:42.280 --> 06:28:47.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This is lower than the fiscal year 2026 level. asr-004890 06:28:49.420 --> 06:28:54.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Should we look through the details of the breakdown, Mr. Speaker? asr-004891 06:28:55.360 --> 06:28:57.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We'd like to receive that as well, Mr. Speaker. asr-004892 06:28:57.900 --> 06:28:58.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor. asr-004893 06:28:58.880 --> 06:29:02.160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: What of its MOOE, Mr. Speaker? asr-004894 06:29:02.280 --> 06:29:02.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor. asr-004895 06:29:03.660 --> 06:29:13.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, the MOOE, the proposed 2027 level is 962.568 million pesos, Mr. Speaker. asr-004896 06:29:13.760 --> 06:29:17.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So most of its budget would be on its MOOE, Mr. Speaker? asr-004897 06:29:17.740 --> 06:29:18.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor. asr-004898 06:29:19.760 --> 06:29:21.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, that would be correct, Mr. Speaker. asr-004899 06:29:22.260 --> 06:29:23.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-004900 06:29:24.520 --> 06:29:27.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I'd like to ask specifically. asr-004901 06:29:27.900 --> 06:29:34.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Specifically, paano ginamit ng National Security Council yung kanyang MOOE? asr-004902 06:29:35.140 --> 06:29:44.680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We are aware that this year, NSC has released the Philippine Journal on National Security. asr-004903 06:29:45.380 --> 06:29:47.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Supposedly, this is its first edition. asr-004904 06:29:48.220 --> 06:29:49.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Supposedly, this is volume one. asr-004905 06:29:50.260 --> 06:29:54.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, may I request information? asr-004906 06:29:54.000 --> 06:29:55.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Magkano po ang ginasta? asr-004907 06:29:56.780 --> 06:29:57.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Para? asr-004908 06:29:57.900 --> 06:30:00.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mabuo ang Philippine Journal on National Security? asr-004909 06:30:00.000 --> 06:30:07.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on national security, magkano din ang pinaplano kung meron pong subsequent editions or subsequent volumes nito? asr-004910 06:30:09.220 --> 06:30:17.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker. With regard to the programs and projects under the MOOE for fiscal year 2026, this? asr-004911 06:30:18.780 --> 06:30:20.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2027, Mr. Speaker. asr-004912 06:30:20.160 --> 06:30:21.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ah, for 2027. asr-004914 06:31:04.240 --> 06:31:20.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: While the agency is pulling up the data, Mr. Speaker, a significant portion of it would be for the implementation of the National Strategic Plan and the National Security Strategy. asr-004915 06:31:20.820 --> 06:31:29.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: These would also be allocated towards strategic engagements at the bilateral, trilateral, and multilateral levels. asr-004916 06:31:30.000 --> 06:31:40.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As well as the monitoring of the NSP and NSS implementations and systems improvement on the administrative side of the NSC. asr-004917 06:31:40.800 --> 06:31:41.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. asr-004918 06:31:41.720 --> 06:31:50.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we'd like to request details on how much was spent on the Philippine National Security Journal. asr-004924 06:32:59.320 --> 06:33:04.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, colleague, as for the NSC? asr-004925 06:33:18.880 --> 06:33:24.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regard to the printing and publication expenses? asr-004926 06:33:24.000 --> 06:33:24.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-004927 06:33:35.840 --> 06:33:48.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This is just for all publications, the printing and publication expenses for 2020. asr-004928 06:33:48.000 --> 06:33:50.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's 2.1 billion. asr-004929 06:33:52.000 --> 06:33:54.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2.1 billion, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? asr-004930 06:33:54.840 --> 06:33:55.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Million. asr-004931 06:33:55.840 --> 06:33:58.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 2.1 million, Mr. Speaker. asr-004932 06:33:58.020 --> 06:33:59.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For all publication expenses. asr-004933 06:34:00.000 --> 06:34:00.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-004934 06:34:00.580 --> 06:34:02.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And not specifically this journal only. asr-004935 06:34:02.500 --> 06:34:03.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-004936 06:34:04.040 --> 06:34:08.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we'd also like to request a breakdown of that data once available. asr-004937 06:34:09.280 --> 06:34:13.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: If this week is doable, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-004938 06:34:15.380 --> 06:34:17.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the agency will comply. asr-004939 06:34:18.500 --> 06:34:27.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we'd like to take a moment to check the contents, the validity, asr-004940 06:34:27.540 --> 06:34:29.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and even to… asr-004941 06:34:30.000 --> 06:34:40.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: To scrutinize whether the budget going to the publication of this journal is indeed asr-004942 06:34:40.080 --> 06:34:45.680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: money well spent for the public, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-004943 06:34:45.680 --> 06:34:53.160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: First of all, we'd like to note that in the foreword of this journal, it is the maiden asr-004944 06:34:53.160 --> 06:34:58.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: issue that states that it is vital in advancing scholarly inquiry. asr-004945 06:34:58.940 --> 06:35:02.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Especially to inform policy discourse. asr-004946 06:35:02.020 --> 06:35:09.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And to clarify, this maiden issue of the Philippine Journal on National Security is entitled, asr-004947 06:35:09.020 --> 06:35:15.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Target to Threat, the Psychology and Prevention of Terror Grooming. asr-004948 06:35:15.020 --> 06:35:27.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Where here it says, and in the first page of the journal, that there is a vulnerable stage where young minds, asr-004949 06:35:27.320 --> 06:35:28.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: shaped by curiosity, asr-004950 06:35:28.940 --> 06:35:30.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and uncertainty, asr-004951 06:35:30.720 --> 06:35:33.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: become potential targets of manipulation asr-004952 06:35:33.000 --> 06:35:34.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and radical influence. asr-004953 06:35:36.320 --> 06:35:37.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It highlights that terror grooming asr-004954 06:35:37.640 --> 06:35:38.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: can begin in familiar environments asr-004955 06:35:39.520 --> 06:35:40.680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: such as schools, asr-004956 06:35:41.040 --> 06:35:43.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: where ideologies can quietly take root. asr-004957 06:35:44.040 --> 06:35:45.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, apparently, this issue asr-004958 06:35:45.440 --> 06:35:46.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would like to advance asr-004959 06:35:47.460 --> 06:35:48.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: scholarly inquiry asr-004960 06:35:48.760 --> 06:35:50.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on terror tagging asr-004961 06:35:50.560 --> 06:35:53.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and how vulnerable young minds asr-004962 06:35:53.220 --> 06:35:54.140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are in schools asr-004963 06:35:54.140 --> 06:35:57.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for what it describes asr-004964 06:35:57.580 --> 06:35:58.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to be asr-004965 06:35:58.940 --> 06:36:04.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: manipulation and radical influence. asr-004966 06:36:05.800 --> 06:36:07.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yet, how can the journal asr-004967 06:36:07.800 --> 06:36:10.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and agency advance scholarly inquiry asr-004968 06:36:10.820 --> 06:36:12.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-004969 06:36:13.360 --> 06:36:15.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: one, nowhere in the journal asr-004970 06:36:15.180 --> 06:36:17.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does it state that it has asr-004971 06:36:17.040 --> 06:36:19.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: gone through peer review policy asr-004972 06:36:19.000 --> 06:36:21.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and has no reviewer list asr-004973 06:36:21.500 --> 06:36:23.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when the editorial board asr-004974 06:36:23.560 --> 06:36:24.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is composed entirely asr-004975 06:36:24.760 --> 06:36:26.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of NSC officials by rank, asr-004976 06:36:26.820 --> 06:36:28.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: not independent academic experts. asr-004977 06:36:28.940 --> 06:36:30.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And the editor-in-chief asr-004978 06:36:30.940 --> 06:36:32.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is also a contributing author asr-004979 06:36:32.940 --> 06:36:34.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of two pieces. asr-004980 06:36:34.940 --> 06:36:36.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The editor's note and an article asr-004981 06:36:36.940 --> 06:36:38.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which, to this representation, asr-004982 06:36:38.940 --> 06:36:40.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is a display asr-004983 06:36:40.940 --> 06:36:42.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of conflict of interest. asr-004984 06:36:42.940 --> 06:36:44.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-004985 06:36:44.940 --> 06:36:46.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: what is the plan asr-004986 06:36:46.940 --> 06:36:48.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of NSC when it said that this asr-004987 06:36:48.940 --> 06:36:50.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: journal will advance asr-004988 06:36:50.940 --> 06:36:52.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: scholarly inquiry asr-004989 06:36:52.940 --> 06:36:54.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when it suffers through asr-004990 06:36:54.940 --> 06:36:56.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: these limitations asr-004991 06:36:56.940 --> 06:36:58.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the journal? asr-005023 06:39:23.480 --> 06:39:27.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, if it would be possible that our time would be paused asr-005024 06:39:27.940 --> 06:39:29.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: While the sponsor asr-005025 06:39:29.580 --> 06:39:30.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: confers with the agency. asr-005027 06:40:36.560 --> 06:41:01.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, as for the NSC, this journal mentioned by our distinguished colleague is actually a compilation of different editorials from different sectors. asr-005028 06:41:01.120 --> 06:41:27.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This was also produced through the strategic communications cluster of the NTF-ELCAC. We agree that if it were to be deemed a scholarly inquiry, our distinguished colleague is correct that it should be peer reviewed. Claiming that it would be a scholarly inquiry and not asr-005029 06:41:27.940 --> 06:41:29.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it abiding by the standards of asr-005030 06:41:30.480 --> 06:41:35.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: academic scholarship is not asr-005031 06:41:35.680 --> 06:41:37.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it wouldn't be asr-005032 06:41:37.420 --> 06:41:39.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it shouldn't qualify then as a scholarship asr-005033 06:41:39.960 --> 06:41:42.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: inquiry, Mr. Speaker. asr-005034 06:41:42.760 --> 06:41:44.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-005035 06:41:44.720 --> 06:41:46.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: there is confirmation asr-005036 06:41:46.020 --> 06:41:47.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that this asr-005037 06:41:47.700 --> 06:41:49.980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: journal, which it purports to asr-005038 06:41:49.980 --> 06:41:51.980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be a journal, did not undergo asr-005039 06:41:51.980 --> 06:41:53.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: peer review and asr-005040 06:41:53.760 --> 06:41:55.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: no reviewer asr-005041 06:41:55.260 --> 06:41:57.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: went through the articles asr-005042 06:41:57.940 --> 06:42:00.100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to vet them asr-005043 06:42:00.100 --> 06:42:01.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: if they pass asr-005044 06:42:01.500 --> 06:42:04.100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: standards of academic asr-005045 06:42:04.100 --> 06:42:05.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: rigor that is expected asr-005046 06:42:05.960 --> 06:42:07.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when we publish asr-005047 06:42:07.800 --> 06:42:09.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: any sort of asr-005048 06:42:09.800 --> 06:42:11.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: scholarly pursuit asr-005049 06:42:11.080 --> 06:42:14.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in compilations that we asr-005050 06:42:14.020 --> 06:42:15.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: purport to be, quote-unquote, asr-005051 06:42:16.000 --> 06:42:17.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: journals. Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-005052 06:42:21.680 --> 06:42:24.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the stated methodology asr-005053 06:42:24.280 --> 06:42:25.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the said journal, asr-005054 06:42:25.920 --> 06:42:27.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, it employs, asr-005055 06:42:27.940 --> 06:42:32.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: comprehensive desktop review from peer-reviewed journals, periodicals, articles, and other studies. asr-005056 06:42:33.320 --> 06:42:34.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's also conducted key interviews asr-005057 06:42:34.740 --> 06:42:36.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with subject matter experts asr-005058 06:42:36.220 --> 06:42:38.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to reinforce the findings asr-005059 06:42:38.100 --> 06:42:39.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: on neuroscience and psychology. asr-005060 06:42:40.700 --> 06:42:42.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is there a reviewer list, Mr. Speaker? asr-005061 06:42:42.880 --> 06:42:43.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor. asr-005062 06:42:43.900 --> 06:42:46.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Because while the description asr-005063 06:42:46.900 --> 06:42:48.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does mention the words asr-005064 06:42:48.060 --> 06:42:50.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: peer-review to this representation, asr-005065 06:42:51.220 --> 06:42:52.160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: desktop review asr-005066 06:42:52.160 --> 06:42:53.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of peer-reviewed journals asr-005067 06:42:53.900 --> 06:42:55.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is not equal to peer-review. asr-005068 06:42:55.320 --> 06:42:57.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We agree. asr-005069 06:42:57.940 --> 06:43:00.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So there's no reviewer list, Mr. Speaker. asr-005070 06:43:01.020 --> 06:43:01.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor. asr-005102 06:44:10.920 --> 06:44:27.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, to save everyone time, we may just request the good sponsor to share any information that it will countercheck, maybe later or by the end of this week. But to note, we did look at the asr-005103 06:44:27.940 --> 06:44:38.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The quote-unquote journal itself, it does not list names of reviewers, and it does not provide a peer review policy. asr-005104 06:44:38.680 --> 06:44:42.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonetheless, Mr. Speaker, may I move on to my other questions? Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? asr-005105 06:44:45.080 --> 06:44:46.680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-005106 06:44:46.680 --> 06:44:55.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, what this representation has pointed out on issues of peer review, asr-005107 06:44:55.780 --> 06:44:58.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on the list of reviewers. asr-005108 06:45:00.000 --> 06:45:08.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The members of the editorial board and even the conflict of interest displayed by the Editor-in-Chief asr-005109 06:45:08.420 --> 06:45:15.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is just among the many issues that we've found in this publication. asr-005110 06:45:16.680 --> 06:45:18.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, my next question would be, asr-005111 06:45:18.840 --> 06:45:29.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is the NSC aware that an article in this publication cites a source to support its quote-unquote brain-based thesis for terrorism asr-005112 06:45:29.560 --> 06:45:36.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wherein the very source explicitly warns against the very interpretation and use of its work? asr-005113 06:45:36.740 --> 06:45:45.600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In particular, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, Bautista, the Editor-in-Chief and a writer of one of the articles in this publication asr-005114 06:45:45.820 --> 06:45:52.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: cites the quote-unquote wired brain thesis on Canay et al. as if settled. asr-005115 06:45:52.520 --> 06:45:57.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: However, Canay's own team explicitly cautioned against over-interpreting the finding. asr-005116 06:45:58.700 --> 06:45:59.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thus, this... asr-005117 06:45:59.560 --> 06:46:08.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This thesis remains one of the most heavily scrutinized, weakly replicated studies in political neuroscience. asr-005118 06:46:08.980 --> 06:46:11.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, is the NSC aware of this? asr-005127 06:47:07.960 --> 06:47:10.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, asr-005128 06:47:10.200 --> 06:47:10.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Dr. asr-005129 06:47:11.340 --> 06:47:13.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We're talking about Dr. Teodoro Bautista. asr-005130 06:47:14.480 --> 06:47:15.680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-005131 06:47:15.680 --> 06:47:17.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the agency confirms that asr-005132 06:47:17.640 --> 06:47:19.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Dr. Bautista was a consultant asr-005133 06:47:19.560 --> 06:47:20.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for asr-005134 06:47:20.900 --> 06:47:23.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this particular project. asr-005135 06:47:23.680 --> 06:47:25.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For this particular project, asr-005136 06:47:25.620 --> 06:47:26.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. asr-005137 06:47:26.060 --> 06:47:28.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-005138 06:47:29.540 --> 06:47:31.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Dr. Teodoro Bautista is also the editor-in-chief asr-005139 06:47:31.820 --> 06:47:33.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and also asr-005140 06:47:33.060 --> 06:47:35.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: writer of one of the articles. asr-005141 06:47:35.540 --> 06:47:37.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And it says asr-005142 06:47:37.260 --> 06:47:38.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that asr-005143 06:47:38.420 --> 06:47:41.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this article adopts the asr-005144 06:47:41.000 --> 06:47:42.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wired brain thesis asr-005145 06:47:42.180 --> 06:47:44.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that asr-005146 06:47:44.720 --> 06:47:47.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the publishers asr-005147 06:47:47.000 --> 06:47:48.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of that theory itself asr-005148 06:47:48.960 --> 06:47:51.680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: explicitly cautioned asr-005149 06:47:51.680 --> 06:47:53.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: against over-interpreting the finding. asr-005150 06:47:54.120 --> 06:47:55.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-005151 06:47:55.260 --> 06:47:57.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We'd just like to asr-005152 06:47:57.040 --> 06:48:00.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ask if the NSC is aware asr-005153 06:48:00.200 --> 06:48:02.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that one of the asr-005154 06:48:02.520 --> 06:48:04.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: thesis on asr-005155 06:48:04.540 --> 06:48:06.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its articles on terror grooming asr-005156 06:48:06.260 --> 06:48:08.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: has a source that explicitly asr-005157 06:48:08.800 --> 06:48:10.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: warns against the very asr-005158 06:48:10.880 --> 06:48:12.980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: interpretation in that thesis asr-005159 06:48:12.980 --> 06:48:14.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the use of its work. asr-005160 06:48:15.680 --> 06:48:16.980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We ask this question, asr-005161 06:48:17.080 --> 06:48:18.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, because we'd like to asr-005162 06:48:18.940 --> 06:48:20.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: check the scientific, asr-005163 06:48:21.120 --> 06:48:22.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: academic, scholarly rigor that asr-005164 06:48:22.800 --> 06:48:24.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: really underwent in the publication asr-005165 06:48:24.900 --> 06:48:25.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of these articles. asr-005166 06:48:26.560 --> 06:48:29.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Was there effort to check the sources asr-005167 06:48:29.020 --> 06:48:30.480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the cautions asr-005168 06:48:30.480 --> 06:48:32.980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that these authors asr-005169 06:48:32.980 --> 06:48:35.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: gave before any asr-005170 06:48:35.080 --> 06:48:36.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: other author can asr-005171 06:48:36.220 --> 06:48:39.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: subsequently use and adopt asr-005172 06:48:39.120 --> 06:48:40.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the theories that it asr-005173 06:48:40.300 --> 06:48:43.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: had and published asr-005174 06:48:43.080 --> 06:48:44.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in its findings? Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-005175 06:48:45.140 --> 06:48:47.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker, the agency asr-005176 06:48:47.000 --> 06:48:48.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: commits to asr-005177 06:48:48.080 --> 06:48:51.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: speaking with the editorial asr-005178 06:48:51.240 --> 06:48:53.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: team that crafted asr-005179 06:48:53.020 --> 06:48:53.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this journal. asr-005180 06:48:54.900 --> 06:48:56.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Especially with regards to this asr-005181 06:48:56.960 --> 06:48:59.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: wire-brain thesis and the asr-005182 06:48:59.040 --> 06:49:00.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: interpretations that the asr-005183 06:49:00.900 --> 06:49:03.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: journal made asr-005184 06:49:03.060 --> 06:49:04.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: regarding this thesis. asr-005185 06:49:04.940 --> 06:49:07.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker. We look forward asr-005186 06:49:07.000 --> 06:49:08.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to whatever the results of that asr-005187 06:49:08.960 --> 06:49:10.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: discussion would be, Mr. Speaker, asr-005188 06:49:10.980 --> 06:49:12.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, if this representation could asr-005189 06:49:12.900 --> 06:49:13.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be furnished asr-005190 06:49:13.580 --> 06:49:16.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its post-consultation asr-005191 06:49:16.900 --> 06:49:18.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: report. But, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-005192 06:49:19.020 --> 06:49:20.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that's not the only asr-005193 06:49:20.200 --> 06:49:22.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: red flag that this asr-005194 06:49:22.820 --> 06:49:24.660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: representation found perusing asr-005195 06:49:24.900 --> 06:49:26.140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this publication. asr-005196 06:49:27.140 --> 06:49:28.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question would be, how can asr-005197 06:49:28.940 --> 06:49:31.140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the NSC reconcile the direct contradiction asr-005198 06:49:31.140 --> 06:49:33.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: between its own articles asr-005199 06:49:33.180 --> 06:49:35.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wherein one article finds asr-005200 06:49:35.020 --> 06:49:36.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: quote-unquote terrorists asr-005201 06:49:36.400 --> 06:49:39.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to show no distinguishable asr-005202 06:49:39.260 --> 06:49:40.480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: psychopathology? asr-005203 06:49:41.140 --> 06:49:42.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, basically, walang makakapagsabi asr-005204 06:49:42.840 --> 06:49:45.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or walang one neural asr-005205 06:49:45.040 --> 06:49:46.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: network or indicator asr-005206 06:49:46.840 --> 06:49:48.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a terrorist can be a terrorist. asr-005207 06:49:49.260 --> 06:49:51.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero may isang article naman po asr-005208 06:49:51.180 --> 06:49:53.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang claim that there is an innate asr-005209 06:49:53.200 --> 06:49:54.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: neurological predisposition. asr-005210 06:49:54.900 --> 06:49:57.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For one to be a terrorist. asr-005211 06:49:57.800 --> 06:49:59.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Now, Mr. Speaker, asr-005212 06:49:59.440 --> 06:50:01.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, I'd like to give some time asr-005213 06:50:01.120 --> 06:50:02.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to flesh this out asr-005214 06:50:02.520 --> 06:50:04.660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as provided in the journal. asr-005215 06:50:05.360 --> 06:50:07.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Now, Bolinao's, Bolinao is asr-005216 06:50:07.120 --> 06:50:08.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: one of the authors of the asr-005217 06:50:08.560 --> 06:50:10.460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the publication. asr-005218 06:50:11.660 --> 06:50:13.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It's their own literature review asr-005219 06:50:13.260 --> 06:50:15.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: states plainly that there's asr-005220 06:50:15.220 --> 06:50:17.140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: no evidence that terrorists are mentally asr-005221 06:50:17.140 --> 06:50:19.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: disturbed and the outstanding asr-005222 06:50:19.220 --> 06:50:21.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: common characteristic of terrorists asr-005223 06:50:21.000 --> 06:50:23.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is normality. These are quotes. asr-005224 06:50:23.080 --> 06:50:24.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It explicitly rejects, asr-005225 06:50:24.900 --> 06:50:26.660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: individual pathology or asr-005226 06:50:26.660 --> 06:50:28.660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: trait-based explanations. asr-005227 06:50:28.660 --> 06:50:30.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: However, Dr. Bautista's asr-005228 06:50:30.900 --> 06:50:32.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: article asserts the opposite. asr-005229 06:50:32.900 --> 06:50:34.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That some people are asr-005230 06:50:34.900 --> 06:50:36.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: neurologically predisposed asr-005231 06:50:36.900 --> 06:50:38.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to terrorism. This is a asr-005232 06:50:38.900 --> 06:50:40.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: foundational disagreement between the two articles. asr-005233 06:50:40.900 --> 06:50:42.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Then, the editor's asr-005234 06:50:42.900 --> 06:50:44.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: note, which Dr. Bautista asr-005235 06:50:44.900 --> 06:50:46.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wrote, which asr-005236 06:50:46.900 --> 06:50:48.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: should synthesize the asr-005237 06:50:48.900 --> 06:50:50.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: issue's contributions and asr-005238 06:50:50.900 --> 06:50:52.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: supposedly weigh their epistemic asr-005239 06:50:52.900 --> 06:50:54.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: values, instead, asr-005240 06:50:54.800 --> 06:50:56.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: adopts the weaker, more asr-005241 06:50:56.800 --> 06:50:58.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: scientifically contested claim asr-005242 06:50:58.800 --> 06:51:00.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: uncritically, which is that asr-005243 06:51:00.800 --> 06:51:02.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron pong brain structure, asr-005244 06:51:02.800 --> 06:51:04.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang mga iilan, that they asr-005245 06:51:04.800 --> 06:51:06.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are quote-unquote more predisposed asr-005246 06:51:06.800 --> 06:51:08.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to terrorism. Mr. Speaker, asr-005247 06:51:08.800 --> 06:51:10.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, what is the explanation that the asr-005248 06:51:10.800 --> 06:51:12.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NSC can provide with us asr-005249 06:51:12.800 --> 06:51:14.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on this? There's a direct contradiction asr-005250 06:51:14.800 --> 06:51:16.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: between its own articles. asr-005251 06:51:16.800 --> 06:51:18.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And NSC reconciles asr-005252 06:51:18.800 --> 06:51:20.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that by siding with the weaker asr-005253 06:51:20.800 --> 06:51:22.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and more scientifically contested asr-005254 06:51:22.800 --> 06:51:24.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: claim. Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-005255 06:51:24.800 --> 06:51:26.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague. asr-005256 06:51:26.800 --> 06:51:28.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That is, asr-005257 06:51:28.800 --> 06:51:30.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I think, one of the characteristics asr-005258 06:51:30.800 --> 06:51:32.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of compilations of case asr-005259 06:51:32.800 --> 06:51:34.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: studies, given that asr-005260 06:51:34.800 --> 06:51:36.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: these case studies asr-005261 06:51:36.800 --> 06:51:38.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: are, these are case studies asr-005262 06:51:38.800 --> 06:51:40.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of lived experiences. asr-005263 06:51:40.800 --> 06:51:42.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Those are the contents asr-005264 06:51:42.800 --> 06:51:44.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the journal, as well as asr-005265 06:51:44.800 --> 06:51:46.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: reviews of asr-005266 06:51:46.800 --> 06:51:48.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: peer-reviewed asr-005267 06:51:48.800 --> 06:51:50.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: journals and articles. asr-005268 06:51:50.800 --> 06:51:52.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, given that, for example, a asr-005269 06:51:52.800 --> 06:51:54.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: case study asr-005270 06:51:54.800 --> 06:51:56.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: from one area asr-005271 06:51:56.800 --> 06:51:58.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would encapsulate a different experience asr-005272 06:51:58.800 --> 06:52:00.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: versus another case asr-005273 06:52:00.800 --> 06:52:02.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: study conducted in another area asr-005274 06:52:02.800 --> 06:52:04.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would encapsulate a different asr-005275 06:52:04.800 --> 06:52:06.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: experience. So, asr-005276 06:52:06.800 --> 06:52:08.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there would arise asr-005277 06:52:08.800 --> 06:52:10.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in those kinds of situations asr-005278 06:52:10.800 --> 06:52:12.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: contradictions. asr-005279 06:52:12.800 --> 06:52:14.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Given the asr-005280 06:52:14.800 --> 06:52:16.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: nature of this journal, asr-005281 06:52:16.800 --> 06:52:18.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is really, as asr-005282 06:52:18.800 --> 06:52:20.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: per the agency, asr-005283 06:52:20.800 --> 06:52:22.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a compilation of lived experiences, asr-005284 06:52:22.800 --> 06:52:24.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which asr-005285 06:52:24.800 --> 06:52:26.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: are also asr-005286 06:52:26.800 --> 06:52:28.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with incorporations of asr-005287 06:52:28.800 --> 06:52:30.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: peer, asr-005288 06:52:30.800 --> 06:52:32.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: well, peer-reviewed journals, asr-005289 06:52:32.800 --> 06:52:34.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: like excerpts from those asr-005290 06:52:34.800 --> 06:52:36.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: peer-reviewed journals. asr-005291 06:52:36.800 --> 06:52:38.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Given that it's asr-005292 06:52:38.800 --> 06:52:40.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a compilation, asr-005293 06:52:40.800 --> 06:52:42.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it really, there would be contradictions. asr-005294 06:52:42.800 --> 06:52:44.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That's for the agency, asr-005295 06:52:44.800 --> 06:52:46.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. asr-005296 06:52:46.800 --> 06:52:48.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-005297 06:52:48.800 --> 06:52:50.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it is evident in the editor's note asr-005298 06:52:50.800 --> 06:52:52.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that the editor asr-005299 06:52:52.800 --> 06:52:54.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in chief asr-005300 06:52:54.800 --> 06:52:56.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is inclined asr-005301 06:52:56.800 --> 06:52:58.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to nonetheless asr-005302 06:52:58.800 --> 06:53:00.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: undertake one interpretation asr-005303 06:53:00.800 --> 06:53:02.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: over another. asr-005304 06:53:02.800 --> 06:53:04.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But, Mr. Speaker, my other question asr-005305 06:53:04.800 --> 06:53:06.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would be asr-005306 06:53:06.800 --> 06:53:08.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: regarding the list of authors. asr-005307 06:53:08.800 --> 06:53:10.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Aside from asr-005308 06:53:10.800 --> 06:53:12.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the issues in particular asr-005309 06:53:12.800 --> 06:53:14.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: articles and even in the asr-005310 06:53:14.800 --> 06:53:16.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: construction of asr-005311 06:53:16.800 --> 06:53:18.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the compilation, asr-005312 06:53:18.800 --> 06:53:20.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: so to speak, asr-005313 06:53:20.800 --> 06:53:22.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: one of the authors is a professor asr-005314 06:53:22.800 --> 06:53:24.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at the United asr-005315 06:53:24.800 --> 06:53:26.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the University of Santo Tomas, asr-005316 06:53:26.800 --> 06:53:28.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Marlon Villarin. asr-005317 06:53:28.800 --> 06:53:30.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So why has the NSC asr-005318 06:53:30.800 --> 06:53:32.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: given asr-005319 06:53:32.800 --> 06:53:34.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Marlon Villarin a platform asr-005320 06:53:34.800 --> 06:53:36.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when he clearly has conflict of interest asr-005321 06:53:36.800 --> 06:53:38.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the topic at hand? asr-005322 06:53:38.800 --> 06:53:40.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, the conflict asr-005323 06:53:40.800 --> 06:53:42.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: interest I'm talking about here asr-005324 06:53:42.800 --> 06:53:44.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is that he has filed a asr-005325 06:53:44.800 --> 06:53:46.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 50-page complaint against asr-005326 06:53:46.800 --> 06:53:48.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: several student activists asr-005327 06:53:48.800 --> 06:53:50.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in UST and has been alleged asr-005328 06:53:50.800 --> 06:53:52.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of red-tagging, defamatory asr-005329 06:53:52.800 --> 06:53:54.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: insinuations, misogynistic asr-005330 06:53:54.800 --> 06:53:56.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: statements, and harassment. asr-005331 06:53:56.800 --> 06:53:58.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, a cursory asr-005332 06:53:58.800 --> 06:54:00.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: glance at his social media asr-005333 06:54:00.800 --> 06:54:02.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pages provide asr-005334 06:54:02.800 --> 06:54:04.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a handful, a myriad asr-005335 06:54:04.800 --> 06:54:06.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of these statements asr-005336 06:54:06.800 --> 06:54:08.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: against student activists, in particular asr-005337 06:54:08.800 --> 06:54:10.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: female student activists asr-005338 06:54:10.800 --> 06:54:12.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: where those that asr-005339 06:54:12.800 --> 06:54:14.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are subject asr-005340 06:54:14.800 --> 06:54:16.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to his ire would be asr-005341 06:54:16.800 --> 06:54:18.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the target of misogynistic asr-005342 06:54:18.800 --> 06:54:20.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: statements alongside asr-005343 06:54:20.800 --> 06:54:22.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: red-tagging and harassment. asr-005344 06:54:22.800 --> 06:54:24.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, in the article asr-005345 06:54:24.800 --> 06:54:26.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that Marlon Villarin asr-005346 06:54:26.800 --> 06:54:28.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: published under this asr-005347 06:54:28.800 --> 06:54:30.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: publication, and I'd like asr-005348 06:54:30.800 --> 06:54:32.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the asr-005349 06:54:32.800 --> 06:54:34.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pleasure of the body asr-005350 06:54:34.800 --> 06:54:36.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: into just letting me quote asr-005351 06:54:36.800 --> 06:54:38.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in particular a portion asr-005352 06:54:38.800 --> 06:54:40.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the article he stated. asr-005353 06:54:40.800 --> 06:54:42.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: He said that asr-005354 06:54:42.800 --> 06:54:44.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: HEIs afford an opportunity asr-005355 06:54:44.800 --> 06:54:46.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to students to air the voices asr-005356 06:54:46.800 --> 06:54:48.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of fellow students besides asr-005357 06:54:48.800 --> 06:54:50.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: being involved in policy formulation asr-005358 06:54:50.800 --> 06:54:52.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: within the institution. asr-005359 06:54:52.800 --> 06:54:54.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Socially political active organizations asr-005360 06:54:54.800 --> 06:54:56.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: refer to the National asr-005361 06:54:56.800 --> 06:54:58.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Union of Students of the Philippines asr-005362 06:54:58.800 --> 06:55:00.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which conducts political asr-005363 06:55:00.800 --> 06:55:02.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: campaigns like voter registration asr-005364 06:55:02.800 --> 06:55:04.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and educational reforms asr-005365 06:55:04.800 --> 06:55:06.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: among other social activities. asr-005366 06:55:06.800 --> 06:55:08.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: However, asr-005367 06:55:08.800 --> 06:55:10.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the student participation asr-005368 06:55:10.800 --> 06:55:12.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in civic activities asr-005369 06:55:12.800 --> 06:55:14.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: both on a classroom and extracurricular asr-005370 06:55:14.800 --> 06:55:16.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: basis poses asr-005371 06:55:16.800 --> 06:55:18.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: risk of radicalization asr-005372 06:55:18.800 --> 06:55:20.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and extremism if not properly asr-005373 06:55:20.800 --> 06:55:22.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mentored or supervised. asr-005374 06:55:22.800 --> 06:55:24.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In this regard, extremism asr-005375 06:55:24.800 --> 06:55:26.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is not far-fetched across such asr-005376 06:55:26.800 --> 06:55:28.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: political education. asr-005377 06:55:28.800 --> 06:55:30.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, to me this is absurd asr-005378 06:55:30.800 --> 06:55:32.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: how it links asr-005379 06:55:32.800 --> 06:55:34.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: political activities, civic asr-005380 06:55:34.800 --> 06:55:36.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: activities like voters education asr-005381 06:55:36.800 --> 06:55:38.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and educational reforms to asr-005382 06:55:38.800 --> 06:55:40.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: risk of radicalization asr-005383 06:55:40.800 --> 06:55:42.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and extremism. Mr. Speaker, good asr-005384 06:55:42.800 --> 06:55:44.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor, I'd like an explanation. asr-005385 06:55:44.800 --> 06:55:46.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Why is this professor one of the asr-005386 06:55:46.800 --> 06:55:48.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: authors in this asr-005387 06:55:48.800 --> 06:55:50.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: compilation when asr-005388 06:55:50.800 --> 06:55:52.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: he can be said that asr-005389 06:55:52.800 --> 06:55:54.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: his entire asr-005390 06:55:54.800 --> 06:55:56.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: academic rigor on this topic asr-005391 06:55:56.800 --> 06:55:58.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is under question given that asr-005392 06:55:58.800 --> 06:56:00.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: his conflict asr-005393 06:56:00.800 --> 06:56:02.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of interest exists? asr-005394 06:56:02.800 --> 06:56:04.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-005395 06:56:04.800 --> 06:56:06.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker, the agency asr-005396 06:56:06.800 --> 06:56:08.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: notes that concern asr-005397 06:56:08.800 --> 06:56:10.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: by Mr. Grish's colleague. asr-005398 06:56:10.800 --> 06:56:12.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The agency will asr-005399 06:56:12.800 --> 06:56:14.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: consult with the strategic asr-005400 06:56:14.800 --> 06:56:16.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: communications cluster of the asr-005401 06:56:16.800 --> 06:56:18.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: NTF-ELCAC given that asr-005402 06:56:18.800 --> 06:56:20.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this journal was published asr-005403 06:56:20.800 --> 06:56:22.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: through the strategic communications asr-005404 06:56:22.800 --> 06:56:24.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: cluster of the ELCAC. asr-005405 06:56:24.800 --> 06:56:26.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This cluster is tasked with asr-005406 06:56:26.800 --> 06:56:28.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: looking at and approving asr-005407 06:56:28.800 --> 06:56:30.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the contributing authors asr-005408 06:56:30.800 --> 06:56:32.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of journals asr-005409 06:56:32.800 --> 06:56:34.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that come out of that cluster. asr-005410 06:56:34.800 --> 06:56:36.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, we will inform our distinguished asr-005411 06:56:36.800 --> 06:56:38.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: colleague with regards to the asr-005412 06:56:38.800 --> 06:56:40.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: results of that consultation. asr-005413 06:56:40.800 --> 06:56:42.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-005414 06:56:42.800 --> 06:56:44.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does the NSE plan to publish more asr-005415 06:56:44.800 --> 06:56:46.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: journals? Through what process? asr-005416 06:56:46.800 --> 06:56:48.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And what will be the topics? asr-005417 06:56:48.800 --> 06:56:50.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Will we expect asr-005418 06:56:50.800 --> 06:56:52.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the same level of asr-005419 06:56:52.800 --> 06:56:54.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in this asr-005420 06:56:54.800 --> 06:56:56.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: representation opinion asr-005421 06:56:56.800 --> 06:56:58.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: carelessness in vetting asr-005422 06:56:58.800 --> 06:57:00.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the list of authors who will be asr-005423 06:57:00.800 --> 06:57:02.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: collaborated with asr-005424 06:57:02.800 --> 06:57:04.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in these publications asr-005425 06:57:04.800 --> 06:57:06.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the objectives of the journals? asr-005426 06:57:06.800 --> 06:57:08.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. asr-005427 06:57:10.800 --> 06:57:12.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There are no asr-005428 06:57:12.800 --> 06:57:14.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: publications in line asr-005429 06:57:14.800 --> 06:57:16.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as of now, asr-005430 06:57:16.800 --> 06:57:18.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. asr-005431 06:57:18.800 --> 06:57:20.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-005432 06:57:20.800 --> 06:57:22.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we note the answer of the asr-005433 06:57:22.800 --> 06:57:24.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor after conferring with the asr-005434 06:57:24.800 --> 06:57:26.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: agency. asr-005435 06:57:26.800 --> 06:57:28.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But if anything, this should be seen asr-005436 06:57:28.800 --> 06:57:30.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as a state attempt to intellectualize asr-005437 06:57:30.800 --> 06:57:32.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and legitimize a concept. asr-005438 06:57:32.800 --> 06:57:34.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The concept of quote unquote asr-005439 06:57:34.800 --> 06:57:36.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terror grooming, style like a journal asr-005440 06:57:36.800 --> 06:57:38.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which now we have heard on the floor asr-005441 06:57:38.800 --> 06:57:40.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that is a compilation. asr-005442 06:57:40.800 --> 06:57:42.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That is the more accurate term asr-005443 06:57:42.800 --> 06:57:44.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to purvey that intellectual asr-005444 06:57:44.800 --> 06:57:46.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: legitimacy. asr-005445 06:57:46.800 --> 06:57:48.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: While not being thorough with the actual asr-005446 06:57:48.800 --> 06:57:50.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: process of academic rigor, asr-005447 06:57:50.800 --> 06:57:52.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: review, and criticism. asr-005448 06:57:52.800 --> 06:57:54.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This means that none of its claims asr-005449 06:57:54.800 --> 06:57:56.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: should be asr-005450 06:57:56.800 --> 06:57:58.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: passed independent expert scrutiny asr-005451 06:57:58.800 --> 06:58:00.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: before publication. asr-005452 06:58:00.800 --> 06:58:02.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Which directly puts into the doubt asr-005453 06:58:02.800 --> 06:58:04.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its validity as a concept and the weight asr-005454 06:58:04.800 --> 06:58:06.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it should carry in policy debate. asr-005455 06:58:06.800 --> 06:58:08.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-005456 06:58:08.800 --> 06:58:10.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the very fact that NTF-LCAC asr-005457 06:58:10.800 --> 06:58:12.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: has to be one of the asr-005458 06:58:12.800 --> 06:58:14.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: advised in these asr-005459 06:58:14.800 --> 06:58:16.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: publications is already asr-005460 06:58:16.800 --> 06:58:18.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a red flag that we'd like to note. asr-005461 06:58:18.800 --> 06:58:20.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-005462 06:58:20.800 --> 06:58:22.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as a last line of questioning asr-005463 06:58:22.800 --> 06:58:24.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of this representation, asr-005464 06:58:24.800 --> 06:58:26.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I'd like to ask asr-005465 06:58:26.800 --> 06:58:28.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because in the text asr-005466 06:58:28.800 --> 06:58:30.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the journal, it explicitly asr-005467 06:58:30.800 --> 06:58:32.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: states that asr-005468 06:58:32.800 --> 06:58:34.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: socio-economic inequalities asr-005469 06:58:34.800 --> 06:58:36.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: like poverty, land dispossession, asr-005470 06:58:36.800 --> 06:58:38.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: injustices, asr-005471 06:58:38.800 --> 06:58:40.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: marginalization, historical trauma, asr-005472 06:58:40.800 --> 06:58:42.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: etc. are recognized asr-005473 06:58:42.800 --> 06:58:44.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but these structures asr-005474 06:58:44.800 --> 06:58:46.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and social realities asr-005475 06:58:46.800 --> 06:58:48.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the journal says asr-005476 06:58:48.800 --> 06:58:50.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are stated to be asr-005477 06:58:50.800 --> 06:58:52.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: quote unquote exploited asr-005478 06:58:52.800 --> 06:58:54.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by groomers rather than seen asr-005479 06:58:54.800 --> 06:58:56.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as independently valid asr-005480 06:58:56.800 --> 06:58:58.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: grievances. They are seen as asr-005481 06:58:58.800 --> 06:59:00.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: factors but not the basis asr-005482 06:59:00.800 --> 06:59:02.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for extremism and asr-005483 06:59:02.800 --> 06:59:04.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: psychologies are the primary cause asr-005484 06:59:04.800 --> 06:59:06.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of extremism. Mr. Speaker, asr-005485 06:59:06.800 --> 06:59:08.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, given that this asr-005486 06:59:08.800 --> 06:59:10.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: compilation names poverty, asr-005487 06:59:10.800 --> 06:59:12.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: historical injustice as unresolved asr-005488 06:59:12.800 --> 06:59:14.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: root causes for extremism, asr-005489 06:59:14.800 --> 06:59:16.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: why asr-005490 06:59:16.800 --> 06:59:18.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: do none of its recommendations asr-005491 06:59:18.800 --> 06:59:20.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: involve land reform, economic redistribution, asr-005492 06:59:20.800 --> 06:59:22.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: negotiated political asr-005493 06:59:22.800 --> 06:59:24.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: settlement, etc.? asr-005494 06:59:24.800 --> 06:59:26.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Why does this stop at merely asr-005495 06:59:26.800 --> 06:59:28.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: just recognition, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? asr-005496 06:59:50.800 --> 06:59:52.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, asr-005497 06:59:52.800 --> 06:59:54.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, asr-005498 06:59:54.800 --> 06:59:56.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the agency notes asr-005499 06:59:56.800 --> 06:59:58.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: those recommendations asr-005500 06:59:58.800 --> 07:00:00.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given also that asr-005501 07:00:00.000 --> 07:00:01.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is a shift in asr-005502 07:00:01.800 --> 07:00:03.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: how the NSC also looks at asr-005503 07:00:03.940 --> 07:00:05.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: national security, so asr-005504 07:00:05.280 --> 07:00:07.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: beyond the conventional asr-005505 07:00:07.560 --> 07:00:09.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: perspective of national security asr-005506 07:00:09.780 --> 07:00:10.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: towards human security. asr-005507 07:00:11.840 --> 07:00:14.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, economic security, asr-005508 07:00:14.300 --> 07:00:15.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: economic dignity, food security, asr-005509 07:00:15.920 --> 07:00:17.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: energy, water, and all of asr-005510 07:00:17.980 --> 07:00:19.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the basic needs. So, this is, this asr-005511 07:00:19.960 --> 07:00:21.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: should be part also asr-005512 07:00:21.960 --> 07:00:23.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the recommendations asr-005513 07:00:23.220 --> 07:00:26.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in subsequent reports asr-005514 07:00:26.100 --> 07:00:27.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: by the NSC. Mr. Speaker. asr-005515 07:00:28.280 --> 07:00:29.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, asr-005516 07:00:30.260 --> 07:00:31.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the policy recommendations asr-005517 07:00:31.580 --> 07:00:33.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of this compilation, asr-005518 07:00:34.500 --> 07:00:35.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: they lay it out in an acronym asr-005519 07:00:35.840 --> 07:00:38.140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: called DECAL, and it asr-005520 07:00:38.140 --> 07:00:39.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: very much asr-005521 07:00:39.880 --> 07:00:41.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: focuses instead of, one, asr-005522 07:00:42.200 --> 07:00:43.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: detecting these terror groomers asr-005523 07:00:43.880 --> 07:00:45.460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: online and offline, asr-005524 07:00:46.180 --> 07:00:47.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: two, exposing them through a asr-005525 07:00:47.840 --> 07:00:50.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terror groomer national registry asr-005526 07:00:50.020 --> 07:00:51.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and forward them to major asr-005527 07:00:51.780 --> 07:00:53.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: institutions like schools, asr-005528 07:00:53.800 --> 07:00:55.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: three, control the incidences of asr-005529 07:00:55.920 --> 07:00:58.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terror grooming by allowing our law enforcement asr-005530 07:00:58.000 --> 07:00:59.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to patrol online platforms asr-005531 07:01:00.000 --> 07:01:01.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and deploy digital forensics, asr-005532 07:01:01.980 --> 07:01:03.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which, by the way, Mr. Speaker, is a asr-005533 07:01:03.780 --> 07:01:05.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: violation of the right to privacy. asr-005534 07:01:06.940 --> 07:01:08.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Four, arrest asr-005535 07:01:08.080 --> 07:01:09.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and prosecute terror groomers asr-005536 07:01:09.700 --> 07:01:12.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: using the anti-terrorism asr-005537 07:01:12.020 --> 07:01:14.140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: law, which, up until now, we have asr-005538 07:01:14.140 --> 07:01:15.600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a continuing critique asr-005539 07:01:15.600 --> 07:01:17.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of being unconstitutional and asr-005540 07:01:17.560 --> 07:01:20.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: vague and overbroad, and number five, asr-005541 07:01:20.480 --> 07:01:21.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: legislate new measures to asr-005542 07:01:21.960 --> 07:01:24.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: regulate radical and extremist asr-005543 07:01:24.000 --> 07:01:25.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: consent. We note, asr-005544 07:01:25.920 --> 07:01:27.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we know, the asr-005545 07:01:27.740 --> 07:01:29.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor, asr-005546 07:01:29.360 --> 07:01:29.600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or, asr-005547 07:01:30.000 --> 07:01:31.140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to understand, asr-005548 07:01:31.860 --> 07:01:33.460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at the end of the day, asr-005549 07:01:33.860 --> 07:01:35.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when we talk about human security, asr-005550 07:01:35.740 --> 07:01:37.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that is also ensuring economic asr-005551 07:01:37.720 --> 07:01:39.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: security, social security, etc. But, asr-005552 07:01:39.560 --> 07:01:41.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: unfortunately, the asr-005553 07:01:41.180 --> 07:01:43.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: agency which is being defended asr-005554 07:01:43.560 --> 07:01:45.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on the floor by the sponsor asr-005555 07:01:45.720 --> 07:01:47.600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does not forward asr-005556 07:01:47.600 --> 07:01:49.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: any recommendations to asr-005557 07:01:49.580 --> 07:01:51.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that direction. Mr. Speaker, asr-005558 07:01:51.700 --> 07:01:53.660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, final questions. asr-005559 07:01:54.920 --> 07:01:55.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May we ask asr-005560 07:01:55.620 --> 07:01:57.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: if the NSC believes that a college asr-005561 07:01:57.800 --> 07:01:59.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: aged student is capable asr-005562 07:01:59.780 --> 07:02:00.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of their own choices? asr-005563 07:02:01.560 --> 07:02:03.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How about a farmer, a worker, asr-005564 07:02:04.040 --> 07:02:05.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a unionist, a teacher, asr-005565 07:02:06.180 --> 07:02:07.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: an indigenous Filipino, asr-005566 07:02:07.380 --> 07:02:09.600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a practicing Muslim? Do these asr-005567 07:02:09.600 --> 07:02:11.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: individuals asr-005568 07:02:12.220 --> 07:02:13.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: exhibit asr-005569 07:02:13.840 --> 07:02:15.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: capability of their own choices, asr-005570 07:02:15.680 --> 07:02:16.680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? asr-005571 07:02:23.620 --> 07:02:27.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-005572 07:02:28.960 --> 07:02:29.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: their asr-005573 07:02:29.320 --> 07:02:30.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: these individuals asr-005574 07:02:30.820 --> 07:02:33.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the sectors they belong to asr-005575 07:02:33.200 --> 07:02:34.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are amongst the list of asr-005576 07:02:34.920 --> 07:02:36.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: quote-unquote vulnerable sectors the journal asr-005577 07:02:36.960 --> 07:02:38.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tries to say that are being groomed into asr-005578 07:02:38.940 --> 07:02:41.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: radicalization. Sabi pa nga po asr-005579 07:02:41.080 --> 07:02:43.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dito na ginagamit ng mga terror groomers asr-005580 07:02:43.400 --> 07:02:45.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang mga kahirapan na asr-005581 07:02:45.180 --> 07:02:46.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hinaharap nila, mga political, asr-005582 07:02:47.140 --> 07:02:48.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: economic, social issues, para asr-005583 07:02:48.800 --> 07:02:51.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: quote-unquote, i-groom sila. asr-005584 07:02:51.380 --> 07:02:52.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-005585 07:02:53.340 --> 07:02:55.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as my time is up, asr-005586 07:02:55.440 --> 07:02:56.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd like again to asr-005587 07:02:56.860 --> 07:02:58.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: request the information, asr-005588 07:02:58.720 --> 07:03:00.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: provided, but asr-005589 07:03:00.560 --> 07:03:02.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we are highly critical of asr-005590 07:03:02.840 --> 07:03:04.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this publication purporting itself asr-005591 07:03:04.760 --> 07:03:06.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to be a journal but did not undergo asr-005592 07:03:06.820 --> 07:03:08.480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the necessary asr-005593 07:03:08.480 --> 07:03:10.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: scholarly academic rigor asr-005594 07:03:10.380 --> 07:03:12.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to really advance asr-005595 07:03:12.380 --> 07:03:14.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: scientific discussion and be asr-005596 07:03:14.820 --> 07:03:16.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: part of the policy debate asr-005597 07:03:16.080 --> 07:03:18.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and more insidiously asr-005598 07:03:18.620 --> 07:03:20.100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is painting asr-005599 07:03:20.100 --> 07:03:22.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: political activities, political asr-005600 07:03:22.640 --> 07:03:24.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: engagement to be asr-005601 07:03:24.520 --> 07:03:26.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pathways for quote-unquote asr-005602 07:03:26.880 --> 07:03:28.660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terror grooming. That has no asr-005603 07:03:28.660 --> 07:03:30.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: place in a policy debate, Mr. Speaker, asr-005604 07:03:30.460 --> 07:03:32.480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor. Thank you for answering the questions asr-005605 07:03:32.480 --> 07:03:34.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to the good sponsor. I yield my time asr-005606 07:03:34.620 --> 07:03:35.398 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to the floor. asr-005607 07:03:35.398 --> 07:03:37.478 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Thank you, Honorable asr-005608 07:03:37.478 --> 07:03:39.700 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Majority Leader. asr-005609 07:03:40.320 --> 07:03:40.880 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, asr-005610 07:03:41.140 --> 07:03:42.700 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: I move that we recognize asr-005611 07:03:42.700 --> 07:03:44.680 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: the Honorable Representative asr-005612 07:03:44.680 --> 07:03:46.820 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Antonio Tinio of asr-005613 07:03:46.820 --> 07:03:48.920 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: ACT Teachers Party List to interpolate asr-005614 07:03:48.920 --> 07:03:50.620 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: on the proposed budget of the National asr-005615 07:03:50.620 --> 07:03:51.920 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Security Council. asr-005616 07:03:51.920 --> 07:03:53.960 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Honorable Antonio Tinio is recognized. asr-005617 07:03:53.960 --> 07:03:54.880 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Please proceed. asr-005618 07:03:58.660 --> 07:04:00.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-005619 07:04:01.780 --> 07:04:02.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Speaker, asr-005620 07:04:04.120 --> 07:04:05.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga tanong ko po asr-005621 07:04:05.240 --> 07:04:06.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay mas may kinalaman asr-005622 07:04:06.940 --> 07:04:07.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa asr-005623 07:04:07.360 --> 07:04:10.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: national security asr-005624 07:04:10.800 --> 07:04:11.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: policy. asr-005625 07:04:11.620 --> 07:04:13.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, asr-005626 07:04:14.540 --> 07:04:15.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang NSE, asr-005627 07:04:15.640 --> 07:04:16.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang lead asr-005628 07:04:16.880 --> 07:04:19.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: agency or opisina asr-005629 07:04:19.400 --> 07:04:22.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na responsable asr-005630 07:04:22.040 --> 07:04:23.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa pag-formulate ng umiiral asr-005631 07:04:23.680 --> 07:04:25.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: national security policy ng bansa. asr-005632 07:04:26.760 --> 07:04:28.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, meron po silang nilabas. asr-005633 07:04:28.660 --> 07:04:33.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito po, buti na lang. asr-005634 07:04:34.000 --> 07:04:34.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Binigyan po ako kanina. asr-005635 07:04:35.340 --> 07:04:35.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Salamat po asr-005636 07:04:35.960 --> 07:04:37.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng hard copy. asr-005637 07:04:39.080 --> 07:04:40.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung pwede rin po makahingi ng e-copy asr-005638 07:04:40.980 --> 07:04:42.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para mas madali i-circulate. asr-005639 07:04:43.680 --> 07:04:44.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National asr-005640 07:04:44.320 --> 07:04:47.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: security policy asr-005641 07:04:47.100 --> 07:04:50.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2023-2028. asr-005642 07:04:51.780 --> 07:04:53.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And the accompanying asr-005643 07:04:53.020 --> 07:04:54.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National Security Strategy asr-005644 07:04:54.700 --> 07:04:55.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: document. asr-005645 07:04:57.980 --> 07:04:58.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, asr-005646 07:04:58.660 --> 07:04:59.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maraming pwedeng itanong dito. asr-005647 07:05:00.920 --> 07:05:02.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, given the limited asr-005648 07:05:02.580 --> 07:05:04.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: time, actually, I will just focus asr-005649 07:05:04.580 --> 07:05:06.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the asr-005650 07:05:06.500 --> 07:05:08.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: discussion on asr-005651 07:05:08.180 --> 07:05:10.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the strategic environment. asr-005652 07:05:10.680 --> 07:05:12.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In particular, asr-005653 07:05:13.700 --> 07:05:16.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of course, asr-005654 07:05:16.440 --> 07:05:18.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dati nang kasama asr-005655 07:05:18.600 --> 07:05:19.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa discussion asr-005656 07:05:19.440 --> 07:05:22.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng pag-usapin ng asr-005657 07:05:22.500 --> 07:05:23.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: external security asr-005658 07:05:23.560 --> 07:05:25.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in West Philippine Sea issue. asr-005659 07:05:26.120 --> 07:05:27.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that is quite familiar. asr-005660 07:05:28.660 --> 07:05:32.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam natin yung issue asr-005661 07:05:32.640 --> 07:05:35.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng West Philippine Sea asr-005662 07:05:35.700 --> 07:05:38.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ruling, asr-005663 07:05:38.940 --> 07:05:39.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the arbitral ruling, asr-005664 07:05:40.220 --> 07:05:42.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: won by the Philippines asr-005665 07:05:42.500 --> 07:05:44.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the asr-005666 07:05:44.280 --> 07:05:46.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: baseless and illegal claim asr-005667 07:05:46.900 --> 07:05:49.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of China asr-005668 07:05:49.180 --> 07:05:50.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that they have sovereignty asr-005669 07:05:50.540 --> 07:05:51.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: over asr-005670 07:05:51.800 --> 07:05:54.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: almost asr-005671 07:05:54.800 --> 07:05:56.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: very significant portions asr-005672 07:05:56.660 --> 07:05:58.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of our asr-005673 07:05:58.500 --> 07:06:00.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: exclusive economic zones. asr-005674 07:06:00.080 --> 07:06:01.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, alam na natin yun. asr-005675 07:06:02.220 --> 07:06:02.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, asr-005676 07:06:03.440 --> 07:06:06.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the National Security Policy, asr-005677 07:06:07.960 --> 07:06:08.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it says here, asr-005678 07:06:08.980 --> 07:06:10.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the West Philippine Sea issue asr-005679 07:06:10.200 --> 07:06:12.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: remains a primary national interest asr-005680 07:06:12.620 --> 07:06:13.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Philippines. asr-005681 07:06:13.960 --> 07:06:15.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, malinaw naman po yun. asr-005682 07:06:15.700 --> 07:06:16.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, asr-005683 07:06:16.920 --> 07:06:19.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang isang relatively bago po asr-005684 07:06:19.280 --> 07:06:22.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na sinama na asr-005685 07:06:22.560 --> 07:06:24.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the National Security Strategy, asr-005686 07:06:24.940 --> 07:06:26.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this is on page 14 asr-005687 07:06:26.160 --> 07:06:27.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for reference of the asr-005688 07:06:27.820 --> 07:06:29.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sponsor. asr-005689 07:06:30.480 --> 07:06:31.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sinabi po rito, asr-005690 07:06:31.720 --> 07:06:33.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: major concern asr-005691 07:06:33.020 --> 07:06:34.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is also seen asr-005692 07:06:34.200 --> 07:06:36.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the cross-straits relations asr-005693 07:06:36.840 --> 07:06:39.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that has the potential asr-005694 07:06:39.240 --> 07:06:40.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to be the flashpoint asr-005695 07:06:40.460 --> 07:06:41.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the region. asr-005696 07:06:43.060 --> 07:06:44.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, the Philippines asr-005697 07:06:44.480 --> 07:06:45.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is concerned about asr-005698 07:06:45.760 --> 07:06:47.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: its economic stability, asr-005699 07:06:48.500 --> 07:06:49.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a potential influx asr-005700 07:06:49.700 --> 07:06:51.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of refugees, asr-005701 07:06:52.000 --> 07:06:52.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the welfare asr-005702 07:06:52.760 --> 07:06:54.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of overseas populations. asr-005703 07:06:56.160 --> 07:06:57.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Any military conflict asr-005704 07:06:57.360 --> 07:06:58.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the Taiwan Strait asr-005705 07:06:58.520 --> 07:06:59.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: would inevitably affect asr-005706 07:06:59.740 --> 07:07:00.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Philippines. asr-005707 07:07:01.460 --> 07:07:02.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Given the geographic asr-005708 07:07:02.680 --> 07:07:04.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proximity of Taiwan asr-005709 07:07:04.200 --> 07:07:05.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to the Philippine Archipelago asr-005710 07:07:05.800 --> 07:07:07.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the presence asr-005711 07:07:07.140 --> 07:07:09.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of over 150,000 asr-005712 07:07:09.320 --> 07:07:10.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Filipinos asr-005713 07:07:10.580 --> 07:07:11.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in Taiwan. asr-005714 07:07:13.140 --> 07:07:13.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, asr-005715 07:07:15.620 --> 07:07:16.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon po, asr-005716 07:07:16.160 --> 07:07:17.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasasama na rin po asr-005717 07:07:17.340 --> 07:07:20.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa National Security Policy asr-005718 07:07:20.160 --> 07:07:21.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung consideration asr-005719 07:07:21.720 --> 07:07:22.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng asr-005720 07:07:22.360 --> 07:07:24.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tawag dito asr-005721 07:07:24.040 --> 07:07:26.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cross-straits relations asr-005722 07:07:26.480 --> 07:07:27.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang tinutukoy po. asr-005723 07:07:27.360 --> 07:07:27.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung asr-005724 07:07:27.920 --> 07:07:30.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Taiwan. asr-005725 07:07:30.960 --> 07:07:32.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And of course, asr-005726 07:07:32.200 --> 07:07:33.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the One China Policy asr-005727 07:07:33.660 --> 07:07:35.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: where China asr-005728 07:07:35.860 --> 07:07:39.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: asserts that asr-005729 07:07:39.980 --> 07:07:42.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Taiwan is a asr-005730 07:07:42.400 --> 07:07:43.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: province of China. asr-005731 07:07:44.340 --> 07:07:44.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? asr-005732 07:07:45.540 --> 07:07:45.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, asr-005733 07:07:46.400 --> 07:07:46.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: officially, asr-005734 07:07:47.380 --> 07:07:48.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this is asr-005735 07:07:48.060 --> 07:07:50.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a policy that is also asr-005736 07:07:50.300 --> 07:07:51.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: recognized by the Philippines. asr-005737 07:07:52.720 --> 07:07:53.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun yun, diba? asr-005738 07:07:53.980 --> 07:07:54.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-005739 07:07:55.340 --> 07:07:56.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, dito sinabi na rito, asr-005740 07:07:57.360 --> 07:07:59.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: any military conflict asr-005741 07:07:59.160 --> 07:08:00.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the Taiwan Strait asr-005742 07:08:00.800 --> 07:08:02.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: would inevitably affect asr-005743 07:08:02.280 --> 07:08:02.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Philippines. asr-005744 07:08:03.740 --> 07:08:05.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung pagkakasabi po asr-005745 07:08:05.320 --> 07:08:07.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng would inevitably asr-005746 07:08:07.020 --> 07:08:08.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: affect the Philippines. asr-005747 07:08:09.760 --> 07:08:11.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede po bang mag-elaborate asr-005748 07:08:11.740 --> 07:08:13.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang National Security Council asr-005749 07:08:13.340 --> 07:08:14.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito sa asr-005750 07:08:14.540 --> 07:08:16.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inevitability? asr-005751 07:08:17.220 --> 07:08:17.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi, asr-005752 07:08:18.640 --> 07:08:19.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Pangulo po, asr-005753 07:08:20.060 --> 07:08:20.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: presumably, asr-005754 07:08:20.760 --> 07:08:21.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: batay sa input asr-005755 07:08:21.700 --> 07:08:23.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng National Security Council asr-005756 07:08:23.180 --> 07:08:24.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on numerous occasions, asr-005757 07:08:24.860 --> 07:08:26.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: has stated na, asr-005758 07:08:26.600 --> 07:08:28.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ayaw natin, asr-005759 07:08:28.100 --> 07:08:29.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa gusto natin, asr-005760 07:08:30.240 --> 07:08:31.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: madadamay tayo asr-005761 07:08:32.360 --> 07:08:33.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa gera asr-005762 07:08:33.420 --> 07:08:35.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag nagkaroon ng gera asr-005763 07:08:35.820 --> 07:08:37.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa pagitan ng US asr-005764 07:08:37.980 --> 07:08:39.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at China asr-005765 07:08:39.140 --> 07:08:40.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaugnay sa Taiwan. asr-005766 07:08:42.080 --> 07:08:43.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, I'm assuming asr-005767 07:08:43.060 --> 07:08:46.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: those statements of the President asr-005768 07:08:46.480 --> 07:08:48.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: are based on this asr-005769 07:08:48.580 --> 07:08:50.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: input by the asr-005770 07:08:50.180 --> 07:08:51.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National Security Council. asr-005771 07:08:53.080 --> 07:08:55.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ilang beses niya na sinabi yan na asr-005772 07:08:56.600 --> 07:08:58.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: parang no choice, asr-005773 07:08:59.080 --> 07:08:59.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inevitably, asr-005774 07:09:00.700 --> 07:09:01.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: we will be involved asr-005775 07:09:01.760 --> 07:09:04.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in a conflict asr-005776 07:09:04.600 --> 07:09:06.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with Taiwan. asr-005777 07:09:07.220 --> 07:09:08.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang kinikwestiyon po natin, asr-005778 07:09:08.860 --> 07:09:10.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung idea ng asr-005779 07:09:10.440 --> 07:09:11.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inevitability. asr-005780 07:09:12.220 --> 07:09:13.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is it really inevitable? asr-005781 07:09:13.680 --> 07:09:14.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit po nasabi ng asr-005782 07:09:14.800 --> 07:09:17.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National Security Council asr-005783 07:09:17.040 --> 07:09:18.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na inevitable ito? asr-005784 07:09:19.820 --> 07:09:21.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That we would be inevitably asr-005785 07:09:21.700 --> 07:09:23.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: drawn into this conflict? asr-005786 07:09:25.480 --> 07:09:26.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-005787 07:09:26.600 --> 07:09:27.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, asr-005788 07:09:27.360 --> 07:09:28.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given that Taiwan asr-005789 07:09:28.820 --> 07:09:30.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is a hundred kilometers away asr-005790 07:09:30.920 --> 07:09:32.660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: from Philippine territory, asr-005791 07:09:33.300 --> 07:09:35.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: really the NSC is gauging asr-005792 07:09:35.580 --> 07:09:37.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the risks regarding asr-005793 07:09:37.420 --> 07:09:39.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the proximity in terms of asr-005794 07:09:39.280 --> 07:09:40.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the spillover effects. asr-005795 07:09:40.840 --> 07:09:41.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, not so much asr-005796 07:09:41.740 --> 07:09:44.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: more of the asr-005797 07:09:44.140 --> 07:09:47.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: evacuation of OFWs asr-005798 07:09:47.820 --> 07:09:49.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and the potential evacuation asr-005799 07:09:49.120 --> 07:09:51.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of different nationalities. asr-005800 07:09:51.780 --> 07:09:52.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, asr-005801 07:09:52.740 --> 07:09:54.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: so that is the basis asr-005802 07:09:54.420 --> 07:09:56.360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for the statement. asr-005803 07:09:56.600 --> 07:09:57.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: By the NSC and the asr-005804 07:09:57.680 --> 07:09:59.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: National Strategic Plan. asr-005805 07:10:00.380 --> 07:10:02.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, ang ibig niyo po sabihin nun, asr-005806 07:10:02.400 --> 07:10:03.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mainly, it's asr-005807 07:10:03.700 --> 07:10:06.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inevitable in the sense, asr-005808 07:10:07.880 --> 07:10:08.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well, inevitably asr-005809 07:10:08.720 --> 07:10:09.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: affect the Philippines, asr-005810 07:10:09.860 --> 07:10:12.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: would inevitably affect the Philippines asr-005811 07:10:12.280 --> 07:10:14.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: given the asr-005812 07:10:14.680 --> 07:10:16.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: geographic proximity and asr-005813 07:10:16.620 --> 07:10:19.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the OFWs in Taiwan. asr-005814 07:10:20.060 --> 07:10:20.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang ganon. asr-005815 07:10:20.760 --> 07:10:22.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun ang ibig sabihin dun. asr-005816 07:10:23.220 --> 07:10:23.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, asr-005817 07:10:24.280 --> 07:10:26.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: does the NSC also asr-005818 07:10:26.600 --> 07:10:27.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: see that asr-005819 07:10:27.900 --> 07:10:30.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or is it part of the asr-005820 07:10:30.820 --> 07:10:31.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: analysis that asr-005821 07:10:31.920 --> 07:10:34.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Philippines would asr-005822 07:10:34.020 --> 07:10:36.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: be involved in the asr-005823 07:10:36.880 --> 07:10:38.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: conflict as asr-005824 07:10:38.720 --> 07:10:41.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in effect, asr-005825 07:10:41.340 --> 07:10:42.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a belligerent? asr-005826 07:10:43.080 --> 07:10:43.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon. asr-005827 07:10:44.020 --> 07:10:45.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na ma-involve tayo sa gera. asr-005828 07:10:48.060 --> 07:10:48.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron bang ganong asr-005829 07:10:48.780 --> 07:10:50.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: assessment ang NSC? asr-005830 07:10:56.600 --> 07:10:58.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. Mr. Speaker, asr-005831 07:10:58.680 --> 07:11:00.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: more so the assessment of the NSC asr-005832 07:11:00.700 --> 07:11:02.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is more of the risk on the evacuation asr-005833 07:11:02.860 --> 07:11:05.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the OFWs, asr-005834 07:11:05.920 --> 07:11:07.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the different nationals asr-005835 07:11:07.240 --> 07:11:09.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to also asr-005836 07:11:09.280 --> 07:11:10.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: our humanitarian efforts asr-005837 07:11:10.580 --> 07:11:11.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: here in the Philippines. asr-005838 07:11:12.440 --> 07:11:14.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, not so much yung kung asr-005839 07:11:14.340 --> 07:11:17.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ma-involve tayo as a party at war. asr-005840 07:11:18.200 --> 07:11:18.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang ganon. asr-005841 07:11:19.000 --> 07:11:20.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Involved in arms conflict. asr-005842 07:11:21.460 --> 07:11:22.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Not so much, Mr. Speaker. asr-005843 07:11:22.480 --> 07:11:24.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Now, asr-005844 07:11:24.600 --> 07:11:25.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si Pangulong Marcos, asr-005845 07:11:26.600 --> 07:11:28.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and presumably ang mga asr-005846 07:11:28.460 --> 07:11:30.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: statement niya may input ng asr-005847 07:11:30.320 --> 07:11:32.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NSC on this asr-005848 07:11:32.460 --> 07:11:34.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: matter, and of course asr-005849 07:11:34.700 --> 07:11:36.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the President is asr-005850 07:11:36.700 --> 07:11:38.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Chief Architect asr-005851 07:11:38.320 --> 07:11:39.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of Foreign Policy, di ba? asr-005852 07:11:40.500 --> 07:11:41.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Siya ang nagtatakda niyan. asr-005853 07:11:42.560 --> 07:11:44.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In a recent interview asr-005854 07:11:44.820 --> 07:11:47.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with asr-005855 07:11:47.020 --> 07:11:48.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: FOCAP, with the asr-005856 07:11:48.620 --> 07:11:50.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Foreign Correspondents asr-005857 07:11:50.540 --> 07:11:52.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Association of the Philippines, asr-005858 07:11:53.000 --> 07:11:54.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: August ito. asr-005859 07:11:54.160 --> 07:11:55.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung last August, asr-005860 07:11:56.600 --> 07:11:58.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: he made some statement, asr-005861 07:11:58.660 --> 07:12:00.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the following statements, no? asr-005862 07:12:01.360 --> 07:12:02.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That the Philippines asr-005863 07:12:02.840 --> 07:12:05.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: will not allow asr-005864 07:12:05.060 --> 07:12:06.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: other countries to use asr-005865 07:12:06.620 --> 07:12:08.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: its bases in the event of a war asr-005866 07:12:08.820 --> 07:12:10.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: between China and Taiwan. asr-005867 07:12:11.560 --> 07:12:11.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Quote, asr-005868 07:12:12.300 --> 07:12:14.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Philippines has no desire to be a asr-005869 07:12:14.320 --> 07:12:16.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: belligerent nation in the region. asr-005870 07:12:17.180 --> 07:12:17.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? asr-005871 07:12:20.040 --> 07:12:20.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, asr-005872 07:12:20.760 --> 07:12:21.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to quote further, asr-005873 07:12:23.520 --> 07:12:23.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no, asr-005874 07:12:24.480 --> 07:12:26.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there will be no attacks on asr-005875 07:12:26.560 --> 07:12:28.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: anyone from the Philippines. asr-005876 07:12:29.020 --> 07:12:30.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We have no interest in that. asr-005877 07:12:31.800 --> 07:12:32.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unquote. asr-005878 07:12:35.060 --> 07:12:36.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: All we are concerned asr-005879 07:12:36.800 --> 07:12:38.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: about is the defense of our territory asr-005880 07:12:38.660 --> 07:12:40.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the maintenance of peace and stability asr-005881 07:12:40.540 --> 07:12:41.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the region. asr-005882 07:12:42.400 --> 07:12:44.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That is all that the asr-005883 07:12:44.780 --> 07:12:46.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Philippines is concerned with. That is asr-005884 07:12:46.720 --> 07:12:48.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: all the Philippines will promote. That is asr-005885 07:12:48.820 --> 07:12:50.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: all that the Philippines will endorse asr-005886 07:12:50.660 --> 07:12:52.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and support. asr-005887 07:12:53.040 --> 07:12:55.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ayun po. Medyo malinaw po asr-005888 07:12:55.020 --> 07:12:56.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga pahayag. asr-005889 07:12:56.560 --> 07:12:58.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na, no attacks asr-005890 07:12:58.600 --> 07:13:00.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from the Philippines. asr-005891 07:13:01.220 --> 07:13:02.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The Philippines will not asr-005892 07:13:02.740 --> 07:13:05.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: allow any attacks from anyone in the Philippines. asr-005893 07:13:05.520 --> 07:13:06.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, ang context nito, asr-005894 07:13:07.600 --> 07:13:08.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahit nung tinanong, is asr-005895 07:13:08.900 --> 07:13:10.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the mutual asr-005896 07:13:10.300 --> 07:13:12.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: defense treaty with the US. asr-005897 07:13:13.060 --> 07:13:14.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, paano kung na-involve ang asr-005898 07:13:14.880 --> 07:13:16.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: US sa gera asr-005899 07:13:16.780 --> 07:13:18.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: laban sa China over Taiwan? asr-005900 07:13:18.760 --> 07:13:20.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bagay na pinag-ahandaan asr-005901 07:13:20.600 --> 07:13:22.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng US. asr-005902 07:13:22.900 --> 07:13:22.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? asr-005903 07:13:24.860 --> 07:13:26.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As far as, asr-005904 07:13:26.560 --> 07:13:27.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the US asr-005905 07:13:27.660 --> 07:13:30.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: defense policy asr-005906 07:13:30.820 --> 07:13:31.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is concerned, asr-005907 07:13:32.700 --> 07:13:34.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron silang tinatawag na Davidson asr-005908 07:13:34.380 --> 07:13:35.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: window after some asr-005909 07:13:35.980 --> 07:13:37.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: general asr-005910 07:13:37.880 --> 07:13:40.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: who claimed asr-005911 07:13:40.880 --> 07:13:42.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that asr-005912 07:13:42.580 --> 07:13:45.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027 asr-005913 07:13:45.060 --> 07:13:46.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is the target date asr-005914 07:13:46.600 --> 07:13:48.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of China asr-005915 07:13:48.320 --> 07:13:50.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: based on Xi Jinping asr-005916 07:13:50.700 --> 07:13:52.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pronouncement asr-005917 07:13:52.260 --> 07:13:54.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to be ready for an asr-005918 07:13:54.860 --> 07:13:56.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: invasion of Taiwan. asr-005919 07:13:56.560 --> 07:13:58.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For the forcible asr-005920 07:13:58.140 --> 07:13:59.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: integration of Taiwan asr-005921 07:13:59.640 --> 07:14:02.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or unification of Taiwan asr-005922 07:14:02.000 --> 07:14:04.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with China. So, meron silang asr-005923 07:14:04.200 --> 07:14:05.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nominal, asr-005924 07:14:06.380 --> 07:14:07.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at least as far as the US asr-005925 07:14:07.880 --> 07:14:09.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: defense establishment is concerned, asr-005926 07:14:11.020 --> 07:14:12.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun ang framework nila na asr-005927 07:14:12.180 --> 07:14:13.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027, asr-005928 07:14:13.720 --> 07:14:15.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: China will be prepared asr-005929 07:14:15.960 --> 07:14:18.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and may actually asr-005930 07:14:18.220 --> 07:14:22.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: launch an actual asr-005931 07:14:22.700 --> 07:14:24.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: invasion of asr-005932 07:14:24.420 --> 07:14:25.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: China. Meron ganon. asr-005933 07:14:25.760 --> 07:14:26.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? asr-005934 07:14:26.560 --> 07:14:30.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in that event, ano mangyayari sa Pilipinas? asr-005935 07:14:30.160 --> 07:14:32.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sumasang ayon po ba? asr-005936 07:14:32.880 --> 07:14:34.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O tama po ba ang asr-005937 07:14:34.320 --> 07:14:35.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or asr-005938 07:14:35.020 --> 07:14:38.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: klaro po ang sinabi ng Pangulo? asr-005939 07:14:38.500 --> 07:14:39.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi, no asr-005940 07:14:39.220 --> 07:14:41.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no attacks. asr-005941 07:14:42.940 --> 07:14:44.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi pwedeng gamitin asr-005942 07:14:44.080 --> 07:14:44.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang asr-005943 07:14:44.720 --> 07:14:47.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pilipinas bilang lunsara asr-005944 07:14:47.980 --> 07:14:48.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng atake asr-005945 07:14:48.880 --> 07:14:50.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ibang bansa. asr-005946 07:14:51.620 --> 07:14:51.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-005947 07:14:52.260 --> 07:14:53.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that confirmed by asr-005948 07:14:53.780 --> 07:14:56.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the analysis and standpoint? asr-005949 07:14:56.560 --> 07:14:58.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the National Security asr-005950 07:14:58.460 --> 07:14:59.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Council. Ganun nga po ba talaga? asr-005951 07:15:00.000 --> 07:15:04.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pagtingin natin na hindi maaaring gamitin ang Pilipinas. asr-005952 07:15:04.720 --> 07:15:11.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam natin maraming mga base na binukas ang Pilipinas sa U.S. under EDCA. asr-005953 07:15:11.920 --> 07:15:16.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Many of them are precisely in the northern Luzon. asr-005954 07:15:17.420 --> 07:15:20.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil nga ang interest ng U.S. ay Taiwan. asr-005955 07:15:21.280 --> 07:15:24.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So ang pinakamga bagong binuksan dyan, yung sa Lalo Airport, asr-005956 07:15:24.580 --> 07:15:32.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano pa ba, sa Isabela, meron din, diba? asr-005957 07:15:32.700 --> 07:15:33.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, yung Fort Magsaysay. asr-005958 07:15:34.760 --> 07:15:39.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These are currently, as well as non-EDCA sites, lalo na yung Batanes, asr-005959 07:15:40.840 --> 07:15:49.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung U.S. nag-invest para i-upgrade yung mga port facilities in Batanes, asr-005960 07:15:50.500 --> 07:15:54.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including the northernmost island. asr-005961 07:15:54.060 --> 07:15:55.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun yatang mabulis. asr-005962 07:15:56.080 --> 07:16:00.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So yung U.S. naghahanda dyan. asr-005963 07:16:01.740 --> 07:16:07.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung U.S. military, they regularly hold exercises with the Philippines. asr-005964 07:16:07.960 --> 07:16:14.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May mga nakabasis silang assets, including Air Force assets na nagpapatrolya. asr-005965 07:16:15.820 --> 07:16:21.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: From Lalo Airfield to the northern portions of Luzon, asr-005966 07:16:21.060 --> 07:16:23.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including over the Luzon Strait, asr-005967 07:16:24.060 --> 07:16:30.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: precisely in preparation for this so-called Taiwan conflict. asr-005968 07:16:31.740 --> 07:16:41.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ganun nga po ba ang pagtingin ng NSA na hindi maaaring gamitin asr-005969 07:16:41.920 --> 07:16:51.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga basing ito ng U.S. para gawing lunsara ng atake kontra sa China? asr-005970 07:16:51.200 --> 07:16:52.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? asr-005971 07:16:52.480 --> 07:16:54.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that consistent with the pronouncement? asr-005972 07:16:54.040 --> 07:16:54.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that consistent with the pronouncement of the President? asr-005973 07:17:03.780 --> 07:17:06.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the agency agrees with our distinguished colleague. asr-005974 07:17:07.460 --> 07:17:07.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. asr-005975 07:17:08.420 --> 07:17:09.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, yun lang. Yun yung sagot. asr-005976 07:17:10.240 --> 07:17:11.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, then, question. asr-005977 07:17:12.640 --> 07:17:20.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isa po sa mga well-known and controversial deployments made by the U.S. asr-005978 07:17:20.500 --> 07:17:23.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under the Mutual Defense Treaty, asr-005979 07:17:23.560 --> 07:17:23.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: EDCA, asr-005980 07:17:24.240 --> 07:17:24.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on, asr-005981 07:17:25.780 --> 07:17:30.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is the deployment of the Typhoon missile system. asr-005982 07:17:31.560 --> 07:17:32.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, meron pong launcher. asr-005983 07:17:33.720 --> 07:17:34.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung Typhoon launcher. asr-005984 07:17:34.920 --> 07:17:35.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And in fact, asr-005985 07:17:36.220 --> 07:17:36.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: initially, asr-005986 07:17:38.120 --> 07:17:43.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it is well known that it was deployed asr-005987 07:17:43.420 --> 07:17:45.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at Balawag Airport. asr-005988 07:17:46.180 --> 07:17:47.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Itang kita po doon. asr-005989 07:17:47.740 --> 07:17:52.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nandun yung launcher. asr-005990 07:17:52.180 --> 07:17:53.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, may complex yan. asr-005991 07:17:53.940 --> 07:17:58.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Merong mga, mainly, it's a mobile launcher. asr-005992 07:17:58.620 --> 07:18:01.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May malaking track, may mahabang trailer. asr-005993 07:18:01.600 --> 07:18:03.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos nandun yung launcher. asr-005994 07:18:03.680 --> 07:18:16.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And it is also well known that the system is capable of launching the Tomahawk missile, asr-005995 07:18:16.040 --> 07:18:18.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which is an offensive weapon. asr-005996 07:18:18.920 --> 07:18:19.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? asr-005997 07:18:19.420 --> 07:18:24.478 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Precisely, it is, uh? asr-005999 07:18:26.280 --> 07:18:29.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We can call it a long-range weapon, something like 1,600 kilometers asr-006000 07:18:29.440 --> 07:18:33.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mula sa Northern Luzon, abot na abot sa, hindi lang sa Taiwan, asr-006001 07:18:33.240 --> 07:18:34.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung hindi kahit sa mainland China. asr-006002 07:18:36.180 --> 07:18:41.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hindi lang dineploy doon, nananatili pa rin nakadeploy ngayon, asr-006003 07:18:41.460 --> 07:18:45.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and just recently, a few months ago, there was a test firing asr-006004 07:18:45.660 --> 07:18:50.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Typhoon missile system from Tacloban Airport asr-006005 07:18:50.400 --> 07:18:56.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos yung target, the test target was in Fort Magsaysay in Nueva Ecija, asr-006006 07:18:57.020 --> 07:18:58.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: over 600 kilometers daw. asr-006007 07:18:59.680 --> 07:19:04.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so ano ibig sabihin nun? asr-006008 07:19:04.840 --> 07:19:12.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Does that not contradict the open pronouncements of the President himself asr-006009 07:19:12.340 --> 07:19:18.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the NSC now, na hindi pa hihintulutan ng Pilipinas na maging lunsaran, asr-006010 07:19:18.960 --> 07:19:28.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh meron nga offensive missile system ang mga Amerikano dito asr-006011 07:19:28.620 --> 07:19:30.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at hindi lang yun, tinesting pa nila. asr-006012 07:19:32.460 --> 07:19:37.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At malinaw naman, gagamitin yun, hindi sa loob ng Pilipinas. asr-006013 07:19:37.860 --> 07:19:41.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung hindi gagamitin yun, for offensive purposes, asr-006014 07:19:42.460 --> 07:19:48.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: against, in the end, it will be against China in the Taiwan conflict. asr-006015 07:19:48.100 --> 07:19:48.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, paano po yun? asr-006016 07:19:48.840 --> 07:19:48.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paano po yun? asr-006017 07:19:48.940 --> 07:19:49.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: How do we reconcile? asr-006018 07:19:50.680 --> 07:19:55.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi ng Pangulo, no offensive weapons, no attacks from the Philippines, asr-006019 07:19:55.400 --> 07:20:01.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and yet, nag-host ng offensive missile system, asr-006020 07:20:02.920 --> 07:20:06.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with such capability, the Typhoon missile system, ang US. asr-006021 07:20:06.740 --> 07:20:09.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano pong paliwanag ng NSC dito? asr-006022 07:20:10.480 --> 07:20:15.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker, the stance of the NSC is that asr-006023 07:20:15.640 --> 07:20:18.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: these exercises actually are exercise of, asr-006024 07:20:18.940 --> 07:20:20.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of Philippine sovereignty. asr-006025 07:20:21.040 --> 07:20:23.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With, particularly, with this launcher, asr-006026 07:20:24.280 --> 07:20:27.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this is an assessment of the capabilities, asr-006027 07:20:28.900 --> 07:20:32.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: also of the Philippines, with regards to its defense posture. asr-006028 07:20:33.280 --> 07:20:40.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, it's not in itself an offensive exercise. asr-006029 07:20:41.320 --> 07:20:46.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's really just to measure and assess the capabilities of the Philippines asr-006030 07:20:46.060 --> 07:20:48.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to defending its territory, Mr. Speaker. asr-006031 07:20:48.940 --> 07:20:51.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, thank you for that. asr-006032 07:20:51.740 --> 07:20:53.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, I just wanted to point out here, asr-006033 07:20:53.920 --> 07:20:58.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there seems to be a contradiction between the public pronouncements asr-006034 07:20:58.840 --> 07:21:01.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the President himself, no less than the President. asr-006035 07:21:01.860 --> 07:21:05.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sinasabi niya sa local and international audiences asr-006036 07:21:05.100 --> 07:21:10.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na hindi niya papaintulutan na gamitin ang teritoryo ng Pilipinas asr-006037 07:21:10.240 --> 07:21:15.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para gawing lunsaran ng atake, lalo na ng US, asr-006038 07:21:15.840 --> 07:21:18.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil ayaw natin maging party sa conflict. asr-006039 07:21:18.920 --> 07:21:25.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: On the other hand, patuloy naman ang pag-host asr-006040 07:21:25.300 --> 07:21:31.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng, ayun na nga, those very offensive weapon systems asr-006041 07:21:31.540 --> 07:21:34.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that only have one use. asr-006042 07:21:35.180 --> 07:21:38.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The only purpose of the US for that is to attack, obviously. asr-006043 07:21:41.180 --> 07:21:48.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It's an adversary in whatever conflict, diba? asr-006044 07:21:48.920 --> 07:21:50.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun po, pinopoint out natin. asr-006045 07:21:51.440 --> 07:21:56.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Either pagkakatiwalaan natin ang sinabi ng Pangulo asr-006046 07:21:56.900 --> 07:22:02.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o hindi buong katapatan ang naririnig natin asr-006047 07:22:02.400 --> 07:22:03.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaugnay sa patakarang ito. asr-006048 07:22:03.840 --> 07:22:04.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pong kontradiksyon. asr-006049 07:22:05.360 --> 07:22:06.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ang pinopoint out natin. asr-006050 07:22:07.260 --> 07:22:08.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, needless to say, asr-006051 07:22:09.740 --> 07:22:14.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang punto rito, kung totoo ang sinasabi ng Pangulo asr-006052 07:22:14.320 --> 07:22:16.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at ang patakaran ng NSC, asr-006053 07:22:16.920 --> 07:22:18.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay dapat i-withdrawal. asr-006054 07:22:18.920 --> 07:22:23.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I-withdraw yung typhoon missile system na yan. asr-006055 07:22:24.500 --> 07:22:24.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? asr-006056 07:22:25.260 --> 07:22:25.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Then, malinaw, asr-006057 07:22:26.880 --> 07:22:33.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: walang offensive intent asr-006058 07:22:33.280 --> 07:22:39.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na pinahihintulutan ang Pilipinas asr-006059 07:22:39.220 --> 07:22:41.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as an exercise of its sovereignty asr-006060 07:22:41.520 --> 07:22:44.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and in accordance with the public pronouncement of the President. asr-006061 07:22:45.160 --> 07:22:46.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let me move on. asr-006062 07:22:46.640 --> 07:22:48.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam natin, limited ang oras. asr-006063 07:22:48.920 --> 07:22:52.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May tanong naman tayo kaugnay sa National Action Plan asr-006064 07:22:52.180 --> 07:22:56.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for Unity, Peace, and Development. asr-006065 07:22:57.120 --> 07:22:59.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung tinatawag na NAP-UPD. asr-006066 07:23:00.340 --> 07:23:00.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-006067 07:23:04.480 --> 07:23:10.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This has more to do with internal security. asr-006068 07:23:10.540 --> 07:23:12.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung yung isa, pinag-usapan natin, external. asr-006069 07:23:13.040 --> 07:23:13.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito, internal. asr-006070 07:23:15.500 --> 07:23:18.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At alam natin, ang lead agency na nagpapatupad, asr-006071 07:23:18.920 --> 07:23:22.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng tinatawag na NAP-UPD is the NTFL-CAC. asr-006072 07:23:23.940 --> 07:23:27.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We also know that the vice chair of the NTFL-CAC asr-006073 07:23:27.820 --> 07:23:29.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is the National Security Council. asr-006074 07:23:29.640 --> 07:23:30.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya dito po natin tinatanong. asr-006075 07:23:31.680 --> 07:23:31.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-006076 07:23:32.860 --> 07:23:33.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, asr-006077 07:23:34.900 --> 07:23:36.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang isang tanong ko lang po, muna, asr-006078 07:23:37.180 --> 07:23:39.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay tungkol sa legislative agenda. asr-006079 07:23:39.480 --> 07:23:40.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As found in the document, asr-006080 07:23:41.940 --> 07:23:44.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the NAP-UPD document, asr-006081 07:23:44.060 --> 07:23:48.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on page 41 of the said document, asr-006082 07:23:48.920 --> 07:23:51.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakalagay po dito, asr-006083 07:23:52.300 --> 07:23:55.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as part of the legislative and policy agenda, asr-006084 07:23:56.700 --> 07:23:57.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it says here, asr-006085 07:23:57.440 --> 07:24:01.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the NTFL-CAC shall advocate the passage of laws asr-006086 07:24:01.480 --> 07:24:03.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and related policies on the following. asr-006087 07:24:04.220 --> 07:24:07.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There's one, institutionalizing the whole-of-nation approach, asr-006088 07:24:07.520 --> 07:24:08.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then there's number two, asr-006089 07:24:09.280 --> 07:24:12.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: increasing the role and responsibilities of LGUs asr-006090 07:24:12.260 --> 07:24:14.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the Philippine National Police asr-006091 07:24:14.440 --> 07:24:16.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in addressing internal security, asr-006092 07:24:17.780 --> 07:24:19.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particularly through asr-006094 07:24:19.840 --> 07:24:21.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: amendment of Republic Act 8551 asr-006095 07:24:21.600 --> 07:24:25.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to transfer the lead role and responsibilities asr-006096 07:24:25.080 --> 07:24:28.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in internal security operations to PNP asr-006097 07:24:28.120 --> 07:24:31.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with the support of the AFP. asr-006098 07:24:31.680 --> 07:24:33.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, apparently, yun ang dalawang, asr-006099 07:24:33.620 --> 07:24:35.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dalawa lang yung legislative agenda asr-006100 07:24:35.480 --> 07:24:39.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under this National Action Plan asr-006101 07:24:39.400 --> 07:24:43.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for Unity, Peace, and Development 2025 to 2028. asr-006102 07:24:43.140 --> 07:24:45.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, it's until the end of the asr-006103 07:24:45.780 --> 07:24:48.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marcos Jr. administration's term. asr-006104 07:24:48.900 --> 07:24:51.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung sa pangalawa po, asr-006105 07:24:52.400 --> 07:24:54.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: parang narinig na natin yan dati, diba? asr-006106 07:24:54.240 --> 07:24:56.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And in fact, under the Ramos administration, asr-006107 07:24:57.580 --> 07:24:59.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that was implemented. asr-006108 07:25:00.120 --> 07:25:03.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: After the repeal of the anti-subversion law, asr-006109 07:25:04.760 --> 07:25:06.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then there were peace process, asr-006110 07:25:07.780 --> 07:25:08.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: peace talks, asr-006111 07:25:09.440 --> 07:25:16.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay pinahawak sa PNP yung counter-insurgency. asr-006112 07:25:16.740 --> 07:25:17.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, apparently, asr-006113 07:25:18.900 --> 07:25:22.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan uli ang policy direction asr-006114 07:25:22.680 --> 07:25:25.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng under this plan. asr-006115 07:25:26.540 --> 07:25:27.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Una muna, asr-006116 07:25:28.080 --> 07:25:29.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ang basis nun? asr-006117 07:25:29.680 --> 07:25:30.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit may ganitong asr-006118 07:25:30.980 --> 07:25:34.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: legislative and policy agenda asr-006119 07:25:34.600 --> 07:25:37.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang NTF-ELCAC? asr-006120 07:25:37.900 --> 07:25:38.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Basis. asr-006121 07:25:39.140 --> 07:25:39.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: What is the basis? asr-006122 07:25:39.880 --> 07:25:51.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-006123 07:25:51.440 --> 07:25:53.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This might be related to asr-006124 07:25:53.620 --> 07:25:54.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the comprehensive asr-006125 07:25:54.760 --> 07:25:56.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: archipelagic defense concept, asr-006126 07:25:57.380 --> 07:25:58.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which basically, asr-006127 07:25:59.820 --> 07:26:00.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: since we're asr-006128 07:26:02.000 --> 07:26:04.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: refocusing, asr-006129 07:26:04.400 --> 07:26:04.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: we're shifting asr-006130 07:26:04.980 --> 07:26:07.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the defense posture of the Philippines asr-006131 07:26:07.880 --> 07:26:09.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: towards the asr-006132 07:26:09.860 --> 07:26:11.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: protection of our asr-006133 07:26:11.240 --> 07:26:13.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: exclusive economic zones. asr-006134 07:26:14.820 --> 07:26:16.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, given that asr-006135 07:26:16.060 --> 07:26:17.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the military would be asr-006136 07:26:17.940 --> 07:26:19.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: reoriented towards asr-006137 07:26:19.820 --> 07:26:21.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the protection of our asr-006138 07:26:21.040 --> 07:26:21.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: EEZ, asr-006139 07:26:23.300 --> 07:26:24.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of course, asr-006140 07:26:24.260 --> 07:26:25.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that would create asr-006141 07:26:25.760 --> 07:26:28.320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a vacuum asr-006142 07:26:28.320 --> 07:26:31.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that the PNP, asr-006143 07:26:32.240 --> 07:26:32.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the police, asr-006144 07:26:33.180 --> 07:26:35.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and the LGUs asr-006145 07:26:35.060 --> 07:26:36.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: should fill. asr-006146 07:26:37.140 --> 07:26:38.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Given the asr-006147 07:26:38.980 --> 07:26:39.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: perspective. asr-006148 07:26:39.860 --> 07:26:41.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay, so, asr-006149 07:26:41.840 --> 07:26:43.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this is related to the shift asr-006150 07:26:43.680 --> 07:26:45.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in focus of the ANP asr-006151 07:26:45.500 --> 07:26:47.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to external defense. asr-006152 07:26:48.140 --> 07:26:49.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Towards the protection asr-006153 07:26:49.840 --> 07:26:51.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of our exclusive economic zones. asr-006154 07:26:51.640 --> 07:26:52.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: External defense, including asr-006155 07:26:52.840 --> 07:26:56.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: exclusive economic zones. asr-006156 07:26:57.000 --> 07:26:57.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-006157 07:26:57.560 --> 07:26:58.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, yun naman talaga asr-006158 07:26:58.820 --> 07:26:59.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pangunahing, asr-006159 07:26:59.760 --> 07:27:00.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under the Constitution, asr-006160 07:27:00.980 --> 07:27:01.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun ang pangunahing asr-006161 07:27:01.940 --> 07:27:03.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mandato, asr-006162 07:27:03.980 --> 07:27:04.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: diba, asr-006163 07:27:05.000 --> 07:27:06.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng armed forces, asr-006164 07:27:07.420 --> 07:27:08.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: external defense, asr-006165 07:27:08.640 --> 07:27:09.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to secure, asr-006166 07:27:09.860 --> 07:27:11.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the territory. asr-006167 07:27:11.460 --> 07:27:11.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? asr-006168 07:27:12.160 --> 07:27:12.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-006169 07:27:14.860 --> 07:27:16.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano na po ang status asr-006170 07:27:16.480 --> 07:27:18.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng ganitong asr-006171 07:27:18.860 --> 07:27:20.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: agenda asr-006172 07:27:20.520 --> 07:27:23.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng NSC, asr-006173 07:27:23.540 --> 07:27:24.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NTFL-CAC, asr-006174 07:27:24.700 --> 07:27:26.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the Marcos Jr. Administration? asr-006175 07:27:26.340 --> 07:27:27.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Realistic ba to? asr-006176 07:27:28.080 --> 07:27:29.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mapatutupad ba to? asr-006177 07:27:29.400 --> 07:27:30.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakikita ba nila asr-006178 07:27:30.200 --> 07:27:31.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na bago mag-2028 asr-006179 07:27:31.760 --> 07:27:34.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay magagawa na asr-006180 07:27:34.540 --> 07:27:37.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ipahawak na asr-006181 07:27:37.020 --> 07:27:37.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa LGU asr-006182 07:27:37.980 --> 07:27:38.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at asr-006183 07:27:38.480 --> 07:27:40.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: PNP asr-006192 07:27:40.060 --> 07:27:41.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang counter-insurgency asr-006193 07:27:41.260 --> 07:27:42.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos nakapokus asr-006194 07:27:42.460 --> 07:27:44.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang militar asr-006195 07:27:44.300 --> 07:27:46.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa external defense? asr-006196 07:27:48.180 --> 07:27:49.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, asr-006197 07:27:50.120 --> 07:27:50.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: well, asr-006198 07:27:50.360 --> 07:27:51.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this might be asr-006199 07:27:51.080 --> 07:27:51.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a discussion asr-006200 07:27:51.800 --> 07:27:53.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for the budget asr-006201 07:27:53.080 --> 07:27:54.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: deliberations asr-006202 07:27:54.000 --> 07:27:54.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the Department asr-006203 07:27:54.900 --> 07:27:55.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of National Defense, asr-006204 07:27:55.760 --> 07:27:57.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but that is the goal. asr-006205 07:27:57.760 --> 07:27:58.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That is the goal. asr-006206 07:27:58.540 --> 07:27:59.360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: To, of course, asr-006207 07:27:59.480 --> 07:28:00.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: equip our asr-006208 07:28:00.580 --> 07:28:02.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: uniformed forces asr-006209 07:28:02.160 --> 07:28:03.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to fulfill asr-006210 07:28:03.280 --> 07:28:04.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this asr-006211 07:28:04.780 --> 07:28:05.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: comprehensive asr-006212 07:28:05.920 --> 07:28:06.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: archipelagic asr-006213 07:28:06.620 --> 07:28:07.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: defense concept. asr-006214 07:28:09.020 --> 07:28:09.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-006215 07:28:09.860 --> 07:28:10.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, goal. asr-006216 07:28:10.500 --> 07:28:11.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, para ano yan? asr-006217 07:28:11.520 --> 07:28:12.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Drawing pa lang yan? asr-006218 07:28:12.300 --> 07:28:12.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Drawing? asr-006219 07:28:13.360 --> 07:28:14.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: These goals are asr-006220 07:28:14.900 --> 07:28:16.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: incorporated asr-006221 07:28:16.960 --> 07:28:18.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: within the proposed asr-006222 07:28:18.020 --> 07:28:18.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: fiscal year asr-006223 07:28:18.760 --> 07:28:19.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 2027 budget. asr-006224 07:28:19.900 --> 07:28:20.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. asr-006225 07:28:20.700 --> 07:28:20.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But, asr-006226 07:28:21.240 --> 07:28:22.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is there already, asr-006227 07:28:22.720 --> 07:28:23.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ko alam eh, asr-006228 07:28:24.080 --> 07:28:24.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron na bang asr-006229 07:28:24.840 --> 07:28:26.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: part of asr-006230 07:28:26.600 --> 07:28:27.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: priority legislation asr-006231 07:28:27.880 --> 07:28:28.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ba ito asr-006232 07:28:28.240 --> 07:28:29.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Marcos Jr. asr-006233 07:28:29.260 --> 07:28:29.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: administration? asr-006234 07:28:30.380 --> 07:28:31.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is this part asr-006235 07:28:31.040 --> 07:28:31.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the LEDAC asr-006236 07:28:31.880 --> 07:28:34.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: priority asr-006237 07:28:34.560 --> 07:28:35.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: legislative agenda? asr-006238 07:28:39.860 --> 07:28:41.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At meron na bang bill asr-006239 07:28:41.320 --> 07:28:43.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na tumatakbo asr-006240 07:28:43.120 --> 07:28:44.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa kongresong ito? asr-006241 07:28:45.420 --> 07:28:46.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We're looking through asr-006242 07:28:46.680 --> 07:28:47.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the asr-006243 07:28:47.180 --> 07:28:48.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particular asr-006244 07:28:48.780 --> 07:28:50.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: legislative agenda. asr-006245 07:28:51.060 --> 07:28:52.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May proposal kayo, asr-006246 07:28:52.720 --> 07:28:53.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi nyo alam. asr-006247 07:28:53.600 --> 07:28:53.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-006248 07:28:54.160 --> 07:28:54.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, asr-006249 07:28:55.100 --> 07:28:55.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sige po, asr-006250 07:28:55.540 --> 07:28:57.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I just wanted an update asr-006251 07:28:57.460 --> 07:28:58.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on this asr-006252 07:28:58.260 --> 07:28:59.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particular proposal. asr-006253 07:28:59.920 --> 07:29:00.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Third, asr-006254 07:29:01.360 --> 07:29:06.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito po, asr-006255 07:29:06.880 --> 07:29:07.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I noted asr-006256 07:29:07.400 --> 07:29:08.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the asr-006257 07:29:08.720 --> 07:29:09.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: discussion asr-006258 07:29:09.200 --> 07:29:09.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: discussion asr-006259 07:29:09.700 --> 07:29:10.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on asr-006260 07:29:10.580 --> 07:29:12.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: parang review asr-006261 07:29:12.120 --> 07:29:13.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga achievements asr-006262 07:29:13.180 --> 07:29:13.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng asr-006263 07:29:13.880 --> 07:29:15.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NTF-ELCAC, asr-006264 07:29:16.560 --> 07:29:17.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there is a section, asr-006265 07:29:17.620 --> 07:29:18.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this is in the asr-006266 07:29:18.120 --> 07:29:18.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: introduction asr-006267 07:29:18.600 --> 07:29:19.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the document, asr-006268 07:29:20.940 --> 07:29:21.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi dito, asr-006269 07:29:21.560 --> 07:29:23.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: one of the asr-006270 07:29:23.020 --> 07:29:24.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: achievements daw asr-006271 07:29:24.500 --> 07:29:25.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the NTF-ELCAC asr-006272 07:29:25.880 --> 07:29:26.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is situational asr-006273 07:29:26.880 --> 07:29:27.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: awareness, asr-006274 07:29:28.020 --> 07:29:28.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: empowerment, asr-006275 07:29:28.600 --> 07:29:29.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and protection asr-006276 07:29:29.760 --> 07:29:30.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of various asr-006277 07:29:30.460 --> 07:29:31.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sectors and asr-006278 07:29:31.240 --> 07:29:31.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: institutions asr-006279 07:29:31.860 --> 07:29:33.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: against asr-006280 07:29:33.080 --> 07:29:35.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: CPP-NPA asr-006281 07:29:35.100 --> 07:29:36.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NDF recruitment asr-006282 07:29:36.440 --> 07:29:36.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: strengthened. asr-006283 07:29:38.080 --> 07:29:38.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, asr-006284 07:29:38.520 --> 07:29:39.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napalakas daw asr-006285 07:29:39.120 --> 07:29:39.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng NTF-ELCAC, asr-006286 07:29:39.700 --> 07:29:40.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and let me asr-006287 07:29:40.740 --> 07:29:41.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: just asr-006288 07:29:41.260 --> 07:29:43.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: read into the record asr-006289 07:29:43.400 --> 07:29:44.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the account asr-006290 07:29:44.960 --> 07:29:46.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of asr-006291 07:29:46.180 --> 07:29:48.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: how this was asr-006292 07:29:48.060 --> 07:29:48.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: attained. asr-006293 07:29:49.020 --> 07:29:50.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The NTF-ELCAC asr-006294 07:29:50.100 --> 07:29:50.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reached out asr-006295 07:29:50.920 --> 07:29:52.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to various sectors asr-006296 07:29:52.020 --> 07:29:52.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and institutions asr-006297 07:29:52.840 --> 07:29:53.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the country asr-006298 07:29:53.700 --> 07:29:55.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to widen asr-006299 07:29:55.000 --> 07:29:55.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and deepen asr-006300 07:29:55.660 --> 07:29:56.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: stakeholder asr-006301 07:29:56.500 --> 07:29:57.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: situational asr-006302 07:29:57.420 --> 07:29:57.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: awareness asr-006303 07:29:57.960 --> 07:29:58.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and knowledge. asr-006304 07:29:59.320 --> 07:29:59.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, asr-006305 07:29:59.460 --> 07:29:59.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun ang tawag. asr-006306 07:30:00.000 --> 07:30:08.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: situational awareness and knowledge of the ideological, political, and organizational works of the CPP, NPA, and DF, asr-006307 07:30:08.660 --> 07:30:13.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including human rights and international humanitarian law violations. asr-006308 07:30:14.840 --> 07:30:23.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The task force vigorously undertook information, education, and advocacy campaigns through fora, seminars, and conferences asr-006309 07:30:23.800 --> 07:30:29.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in schools, government offices, and communities, as well as strategic communication initiatives. asr-006310 07:30:30.000 --> 07:30:37.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Strategic communication initiatives through various media platforms. asr-006311 07:30:38.480 --> 07:30:44.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At the same time, situational awareness among stakeholders within the international community was enhanced asr-006312 07:30:44.600 --> 07:30:51.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: through international engagement with the United Nations system, regional or multilateral educations, asr-006313 07:30:51.420 --> 07:30:59.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: international development and donor agencies, overseas Filipino workers and communities, and foreign states. asr-006314 07:31:00.000 --> 07:31:03.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, I will read it now. asr-006315 07:31:04.080 --> 07:31:10.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The other ones, sectoral empowerment and protection, notably of the children, youth, and student sectors, asr-006316 07:31:11.060 --> 07:31:14.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: against CPP, NPA, and DF recruitment were vigorously promoted. asr-006317 07:31:16.040 --> 07:31:19.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Among the significant undertakings are the following, asr-006318 07:31:20.740 --> 07:31:27.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the PNP-initiated community-based partnerships such as the Kabataan Contra Droga at Terrorismo, asr-006319 07:31:27.140 --> 07:31:29.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which mobilized the youth as partners, asr-006320 07:31:30.000 --> 07:31:32.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in addressing drug abuse and terrorism, asr-006321 07:31:33.340 --> 07:31:37.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the Kapulisan, Simbahan, at Pamayanan, Kasimbayanan program, asr-006322 07:31:38.680 --> 07:31:45.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which served as a platform of collaboration between PNP faith-based organizations and other stakeholders asr-006323 07:31:45.740 --> 07:31:48.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to ensure peace and order and safety in the communities. asr-006324 07:31:49.380 --> 07:31:57.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, collaboration between government and parents organizations such as Yakap ng Magulang and Hands of Our Children, asr-006325 07:31:57.340 --> 07:31:59.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the advocacy. asr-006326 07:32:00.000 --> 07:32:03.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ...against CPP-NPA's recruitment of children, asr-006327 07:32:03.360 --> 07:32:07.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: initiatives of the department of education and the commission on higher education asr-006328 07:32:08.660 --> 07:32:14.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to strengthen the integration of peace and education in basic and higher education, respectively, asr-006329 07:32:14.820 --> 07:32:23.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and DEP-EDS closure of the CPP-NPA-NDF-operated salugpungan schools in Mindanao asr-006330 07:32:23.840 --> 07:32:26.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to protect young IEP learners from recruitment. asr-006331 07:32:27.380 --> 07:32:27.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-006332 07:32:28.640 --> 07:32:29.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So... asr-006333 07:32:30.000 --> 07:32:35.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung babasahin mo, parang napakabanayad ng mga pangyayari at nakamit ang mga tagumpay. asr-006334 07:32:35.760 --> 07:32:39.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero sa totoo lang, yung binabangit ng pangyayari dito, asr-006335 07:32:39.440 --> 07:32:51.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito yung ilang taon ng marahas na red tagging, harassment, violation of civil rights and human rights asr-006336 07:32:51.020 --> 07:33:02.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of individuals from a very wide spectrum of society mula sa mga profesional, sa mga guro, asr-006337 07:33:02.500 --> 07:33:12.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa mga kawani, sa gobyerno, sa labas ng gobyerno, media, pati mga artista, mga workers, mga unionists, asr-006338 07:33:13.520 --> 07:33:16.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga indigenous peoples, and so on and so forth. asr-006339 07:33:17.320 --> 07:33:20.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam natin yan, yung red tagging. Kaya nga, alam na natin. asr-006340 07:33:20.780 --> 07:33:24.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At tumatak talaga yung issue ng red tagging. This is it. asr-006341 07:33:25.500 --> 07:33:37.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung sinasabing situational awareness and strategic communication initiatives. asr-006342 07:33:37.820 --> 07:33:46.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan po yung constant red tagging on social media using paid trolls and so on and so forth. asr-006343 07:33:48.340 --> 07:33:50.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Using government resources. asr-006344 07:33:50.780 --> 07:34:04.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung Supreme Court mismo, naglabas ng ruling, yung kaugnay sa writ of amparo, yung deduro ruling, asr-006345 07:34:04.420 --> 07:34:13.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na nagsabi, red tagging is dangerous for the targets of red tagging. asr-006346 07:34:14.620 --> 07:34:17.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun po ang point natin dito. asr-006347 07:34:20.780 --> 07:34:28.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang paglalahad ng mga pangyayari, makikita mo na lang sa bandang dulo dahil may sinabi doon yung pinasara yung mga salugpungan schools. asr-006348 07:34:29.380 --> 07:34:33.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And that was by no means a peaceful process. asr-006349 07:34:34.560 --> 07:34:39.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung hindi, madugo po yan. Literally, in some cases, may mga namatay po. asr-006350 07:34:40.340 --> 07:34:48.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming pinalikas, maraming mga na-detain, may mga nag-disappear, and so on and so forth. asr-006351 07:34:48.600 --> 07:34:49.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-006352 07:34:49.900 --> 07:34:50.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, asr-006353 07:34:50.780 --> 07:34:52.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun po yung unang nire-rehistro natin. asr-006354 07:34:53.600 --> 07:34:55.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, to illustrate my point, asr-006355 07:34:56.720 --> 07:34:57.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi po natatapos to asr-006356 07:34:57.880 --> 07:35:00.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dun sa panahon ng nakaraang administrasyon, asr-006357 07:35:00.640 --> 07:35:02.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kundi nagpapatuloy hanggang ngayon. asr-006358 07:35:03.180 --> 07:35:05.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let me take the case of asr-006359 07:35:05.480 --> 07:35:10.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Alliance of Concerned Teachers Region 5 Union. asr-006360 07:35:11.560 --> 07:35:14.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung Alliance of Concerned Teachers, asr-006361 07:35:14.840 --> 07:35:16.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinanggalingan kong organisasyon yan. asr-006362 07:35:17.080 --> 07:35:20.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I used to be the national chairperson of ACT. asr-006363 07:35:20.780 --> 07:35:24.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: From 2002 to 2012. asr-006364 07:35:25.300 --> 07:35:30.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, then I became a member of the House through ACT Teachers Party List. asr-006365 07:35:31.340 --> 07:35:39.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, isa sa mga pinagsikapan at pinaghirapan ng Alliance of Concerned Teachers throughout the country. asr-006366 07:35:39.360 --> 07:35:41.780 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: With the indulgence of the Honorable Tinio, please. asr-006367 07:35:41.800 --> 07:35:43.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo, patapos na po tayo. asr-006368 07:35:43.840 --> 07:35:48.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay ang pag-unionize ng mga public school teachers. asr-006369 07:35:48.780 --> 07:35:50.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ACT Region 5. asr-006370 07:35:50.780 --> 07:35:58.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang pag-union is the sole and accredited negotiating unit. asr-006371 07:35:58.880 --> 07:36:01.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung tanging union na accredited asr-006372 07:36:01.340 --> 07:36:04.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng gobyerno, ng Civil Service Commission, asr-006373 07:36:05.280 --> 07:36:07.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Department of Labor and Employment, asr-006374 07:36:07.280 --> 07:36:07.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at ng DepEd. asr-006375 07:36:09.220 --> 07:36:10.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bilang union asr-006376 07:36:10.940 --> 07:36:14.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng more than 50,000 teachers asr-006377 07:36:14.100 --> 07:36:17.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DepEd sa Region 5. asr-006378 07:36:17.920 --> 07:36:18.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bicol Region. asr-006379 07:36:19.300 --> 07:36:20.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para makakreditsin, asr-006380 07:36:20.780 --> 07:36:24.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kailangan ipakita mo na supportado ka ng mayorya ng mga teacher. asr-006381 07:36:25.460 --> 07:36:27.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, may pirmahan yan. asr-006382 07:36:28.380 --> 07:36:31.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And you have to get, hindi po biro na makuha mo asr-006383 07:36:31.360 --> 07:36:34.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pirma at supporta asr-006384 07:36:34.520 --> 07:36:39.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng more than, the majority, in short, asr-006385 07:36:39.840 --> 07:36:42.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the majority of public school teachers throughout the region. asr-006386 07:36:43.080 --> 07:36:45.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mula kamarinis norte hanggang Sorsogon. asr-006387 07:36:45.900 --> 07:36:49.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagkakita ko si Pongwowo dito. asr-006388 07:36:49.280 --> 07:36:50.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan, Sorsogon. asr-006389 07:36:50.780 --> 07:36:51.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? asr-006390 07:36:52.140 --> 07:36:53.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sila po ang accredited union. asr-006391 07:36:54.100 --> 07:36:57.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And on August 2930, asr-006392 07:36:58.700 --> 07:37:03.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nag-conduct sila ng Regional Leadership Training and Seminar, asr-006393 07:37:04.240 --> 07:37:07.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung ACT Bicol Region Union. asr-006394 07:37:08.580 --> 07:37:09.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, ang nangyari po, asr-006395 07:37:10.620 --> 07:37:11.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: syempre dahil legal na, asr-006396 07:37:12.060 --> 07:37:13.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: recognized union, asr-006397 07:37:13.620 --> 07:37:14.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naglabas ng memo asr-006398 07:37:14.800 --> 07:37:18.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang DepEd Region 5 asr-006399 07:37:18.180 --> 07:37:20.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the activity. asr-006400 07:37:20.780 --> 07:37:25.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That memo included a list of all the participants asr-006401 07:37:25.320 --> 07:37:29.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa iba't-ibang mga divisions ng Region 5. asr-006402 07:37:30.320 --> 07:37:32.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Listahan, marami po. Mahaba yung listahan. asr-006403 07:37:33.260 --> 07:37:35.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: More than 100, yung pangalan. asr-006404 07:37:37.040 --> 07:37:39.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang nangyari po, ang nakarating sa atin na ulat, asr-006405 07:37:40.060 --> 07:37:42.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particular sa Kamarines Sur, asr-006406 07:37:43.040 --> 07:37:46.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay nahawakan ng PNP asr-006407 07:37:46.460 --> 07:37:50.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung memo, dahil nakapost yan sa asr-006408 07:37:50.140 --> 07:37:52.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: website ng DepEd, asr-006409 07:37:53.140 --> 07:37:53.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung advisory, asr-006410 07:37:54.620 --> 07:37:55.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nahawakan ng listahan, asr-006411 07:37:55.960 --> 07:37:56.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos inisa-isa po asr-006412 07:37:56.980 --> 07:37:59.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga pangalan asr-006413 07:37:59.400 --> 07:38:01.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng memo. asr-006414 07:38:02.400 --> 07:38:05.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At either tinawagan sila, asr-006415 07:38:05.560 --> 07:38:08.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: minessage ng mga nagpapakilalang asr-006416 07:38:08.160 --> 07:38:10.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: intelligence officer ng PNP, asr-006417 07:38:11.500 --> 07:38:11.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at asr-006418 07:38:11.800 --> 07:38:16.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hinihingan pa ng pangalan ng mga iba. asr-006419 07:38:16.080 --> 07:38:18.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa tinawagan, o kaya pinuntahan. asr-006420 07:38:19.520 --> 07:38:20.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinuntahan. asr-006421 07:38:20.140 --> 07:38:21.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa mga iskwelahan. asr-006422 07:38:21.640 --> 07:38:22.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sample lang po, asr-006423 07:38:23.140 --> 07:38:23.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga... asr-006424 07:38:23.900 --> 07:38:24.900 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Honorable Tinio, please. asr-006425 07:38:25.240 --> 07:38:26.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. Opo. Patapos na po. asr-006426 07:38:27.120 --> 07:38:27.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sample lang po. asr-006427 07:38:28.580 --> 07:38:29.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is for the record. asr-006428 07:38:30.440 --> 07:38:32.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, hindi po natin babangitin yung mga pangalan, asr-006429 07:38:32.860 --> 07:38:33.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero for example, asr-006430 07:38:35.100 --> 07:38:37.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from screenshots, asr-006431 07:38:38.160 --> 07:38:39.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga pinadala sa atin. asr-006432 07:38:40.640 --> 07:38:41.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Good afternoon po. asr-006433 07:38:42.420 --> 07:38:42.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ma'am, asr-006434 07:38:43.560 --> 07:38:45.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede po daw tumawag sa inyo? asr-006435 07:38:47.360 --> 07:38:49.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sino po? Ano po ang concern nyo? asr-006436 07:38:50.140 --> 07:38:52.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tawag po ako sa inyo. asr-006437 07:38:53.380 --> 07:38:56.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pasensya na po. Sa PNP ako. May query lang, ma'am. asr-006438 07:38:57.480 --> 07:38:58.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang concern nyo? asr-006439 07:39:00.340 --> 07:39:02.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Asking lang, please, regarding sa names, asr-006440 07:39:02.780 --> 07:39:04.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including sa mga umaten sa Ligaspi. asr-006441 07:39:05.520 --> 07:39:06.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ima gano'n, hinihingan ng pangalan. asr-006442 07:39:07.580 --> 07:39:08.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, meron namang. Iba pa to. asr-006443 07:39:12.180 --> 07:39:15.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito po. If aware kayo kung sino ang representative asr-006444 07:39:15.120 --> 07:39:17.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from this school, may pangalan ng school, asr-006445 07:39:17.440 --> 07:39:19.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or designated lang po to attend, asr-006446 07:39:20.140 --> 07:39:22.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: security survey lang po. asr-006447 07:39:22.500 --> 07:39:23.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun ang tawag. asr-006448 07:39:24.020 --> 07:39:26.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O di kaya, another quote, asr-006449 07:39:28.020 --> 07:39:30.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: di naman po kami profiling sa inyo. asr-006450 07:39:30.600 --> 07:39:32.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagva-validate lang po kami asr-006451 07:39:32.160 --> 07:39:35.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung paano ka na list doon. asr-006452 07:39:36.560 --> 07:39:39.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi ang iba, as per info, asr-006453 07:39:39.980 --> 07:39:41.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinalagay lang daw po sa list. asr-006454 07:39:41.840 --> 07:39:44.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so, yun po ang point. asr-006455 07:39:44.520 --> 07:39:45.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tatapusin na po natin. asr-006456 07:39:45.680 --> 07:39:48.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang point po, yung sinasabi rito, asr-006457 07:39:48.200 --> 07:39:52.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung situational awareness, empowerment, asr-006458 07:39:52.900 --> 07:39:55.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and protection of various sectors and institutions asr-006459 07:39:55.340 --> 07:39:58.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the ground, ganyan po yan. asr-006460 07:39:58.240 --> 07:40:00.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga unionista na atend sa training, asr-006461 07:40:01.020 --> 07:40:04.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kinukuha yung pangalan, tapos iniisa-isa ng PNP. asr-006462 07:40:04.820 --> 07:40:06.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung iba, sabihin, mag-usap tayo. asr-006463 07:40:07.360 --> 07:40:09.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May sinabi isa dito, daan kayo sa ano. asr-006464 07:40:10.260 --> 07:40:11.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito lang, babasahin ko lang. asr-006465 07:40:14.720 --> 07:40:17.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bag-message ka po sa akin kung pauwi ka na po. asr-006466 07:40:18.200 --> 07:40:21.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maghihintay na lang po ako dito sa police station. asr-006467 07:40:21.800 --> 07:40:22.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung huwi na po kayo, asr-006468 07:40:23.480 --> 07:40:26.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o pinapadaan sa police station. asr-006469 07:40:27.220 --> 07:40:28.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang tanong po, asr-006470 07:40:30.000 --> 07:40:34.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan po ba ang pamamaraan asr-006471 07:40:34.520 --> 07:40:37.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na tinutulak at iniendorso asr-006472 07:40:37.600 --> 07:40:41.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng National Security Council asr-006473 07:40:41.360 --> 07:40:46.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para ipatupad yung kanilang so-called asr-006474 07:40:48.200 --> 07:40:50.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: situational awareness. asr-006475 07:40:50.380 --> 07:40:55.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na yung mga lehitimo at legal na public school teacher natin asr-006476 07:40:55.280 --> 07:40:58.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na uma-attend ng kanilang seminar asr-006477 07:40:58.640 --> 07:41:00.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa unionismo nila asr-006478 07:41:00.700 --> 07:41:04.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay tinatawagan ng police asr-006479 07:41:04.500 --> 07:41:06.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at pinapapunta pa sa stasyon asr-006480 07:41:06.880 --> 07:41:08.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para magpaliwanag. asr-006481 07:41:08.880 --> 07:41:09.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po ba? asr-006482 07:41:10.680 --> 07:41:12.980 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: That will be your last question, Honorable Tinio. asr-006483 07:41:13.340 --> 07:41:16.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, that probably would be a concern asr-006484 07:41:16.460 --> 07:41:17.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that we be better directed with you. asr-006485 07:41:17.600 --> 07:41:19.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Directed with the situational awareness asr-006486 07:41:19.500 --> 07:41:22.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and knowledge management cluster of the NTFL-CAP. asr-006487 07:41:22.840 --> 07:41:24.220 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Thank you, Honorable Tinio. asr-006488 07:41:24.400 --> 07:41:27.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I direct it to the NSE because they are the vice chair asr-006489 07:41:27.480 --> 07:41:30.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and I also condemn this harassment asr-006490 07:41:30.900 --> 07:41:36.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and violation of basic human rights asr-006491 07:41:36.140 --> 07:41:39.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and union rights of our teachers, asr-006492 07:41:40.000 --> 07:41:41.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particularly in Camarines Sur, asr-006493 07:41:42.460 --> 07:41:46.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: subject to such harassment and intimidation. asr-006494 07:41:46.720 --> 07:41:48.478 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kinukondena po natin ito. asr-006495 07:41:48.478 --> 07:41:53.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya po iyan ang isang issue na tinatalaan natin sa record asr-006496 07:41:53.760 --> 07:41:59.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na pinapahintulutan ng pondo na inilalaan ng Kongreso asr-006497 07:41:59.360 --> 07:42:01.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa National Security Council at NTFL-CAP. asr-006498 07:42:01.460 --> 07:42:02.160 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Thank you, Honorable Tinio. asr-006499 07:42:02.160 --> 07:42:03.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po. asr-006500 07:42:03.180 --> 07:42:04.000 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Thank you, Honorable Tinio. asr-006501 07:42:04.340 --> 07:42:05.100 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Majority Leader. asr-006502 07:42:09.080 --> 07:42:11.260 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize asr-006503 07:42:11.260 --> 07:42:14.200 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: the Honorable Representative Sergio Dagooc asr-006504 07:42:14.200 --> 07:42:16.120 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: of APEC Party List asr-006505 07:42:16.120 --> 07:42:17.440 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: to interpellate on asr-006506 07:42:17.440 --> 07:42:19.780 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: the proposed budget of the National Security Council. asr-006507 07:42:20.260 --> 07:42:22.260 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Honorable Sergio Dagooc is recognized. asr-006508 07:42:22.560 --> 07:42:23.080 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Please proceed. asr-006509 07:42:24.440 --> 07:42:26.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-006510 07:42:26.340 --> 07:42:27.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Majority Leader. asr-006511 07:42:28.400 --> 07:42:29.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pagandang gabi po sa ating lahat, asr-006512 07:42:30.040 --> 07:42:32.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: especially to the Distinguished Sponsor. asr-006513 07:42:33.120 --> 07:42:36.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kunting katalungan lang po, Distinguished Sponsor. asr-006514 07:42:37.840 --> 07:42:42.900 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ako po ay naguguluhan dito sa budget ng NSE. asr-006515 07:42:44.700 --> 07:42:47.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tama po ba yung nakita ko na asr-006516 07:42:47.320 --> 07:42:49.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: bumaba po yung budget ninyo asr-006517 07:42:49.620 --> 07:42:51.200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: compared to 2026? asr-006518 07:42:52.220 --> 07:42:54.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Tama po yun, Mr. Speaker. asr-006519 07:42:55.220 --> 07:42:55.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Bumaba po. asr-006520 07:42:56.480 --> 07:42:56.820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero, asr-006521 07:42:57.820 --> 07:43:00.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kahit bumaba, asr-006522 07:43:00.300 --> 07:43:02.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yung MOOE ninyo asr-006523 07:43:02.540 --> 07:43:07.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nag-increase by 10.5% asr-006524 07:43:07.160 --> 07:43:10.480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: or from 871 million asr-006525 07:43:10.480 --> 07:43:13.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: sa 2026, no? asr-006526 07:43:14.260 --> 07:43:14.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ay, asr-006527 07:43:15.540 --> 07:43:16.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ah, asr-006528 07:43:17.320 --> 07:43:21.720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: umabot siya ng 962 million. asr-006529 07:43:21.920 --> 07:43:22.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tama po ba? asr-006530 07:43:23.120 --> 07:43:24.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Tama po, Mr. Speaker. asr-006531 07:43:25.420 --> 07:43:25.980 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yung asr-006532 07:43:25.980 --> 07:43:30.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: capital outlay ninyo, asr-006533 07:43:30.760 --> 07:43:30.960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: no? asr-006534 07:43:32.020 --> 07:43:32.380 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ah, asr-006535 07:43:34.520 --> 07:43:34.920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ay asr-006536 07:43:34.920 --> 07:43:37.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: tumaas, no? asr-006537 07:43:37.760 --> 07:43:40.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Doon sa subscription expenses alone, asr-006538 07:43:41.380 --> 07:43:43.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: tumaas ng 261 million asr-006539 07:43:43.540 --> 07:43:45.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: or 23% asr-006540 07:43:45.540 --> 07:43:47.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: compared sa 22 million. asr-006541 07:43:47.320 --> 07:43:48.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tama po ba yung 26? asr-006542 07:43:48.320 --> 07:43:48.920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tama po ba? asr-006543 07:43:49.760 --> 07:43:52.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ah, yung capital outlay po, Mr. Speaker, asr-006544 07:43:52.780 --> 07:43:53.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: bumaba po. asr-006545 07:43:53.700 --> 07:43:56.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Actually, 600,000 lang po ang capital outlay. asr-006546 07:43:56.900 --> 07:43:58.880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yung subscription expenses, asr-006547 07:43:59.900 --> 07:44:00.020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: no? asr-006548 07:44:00.200 --> 07:44:05.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nag-increase yan ng 261.1 million, no? asr-006549 07:44:06.180 --> 07:44:07.840 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: 23% po siya asr-006550 07:44:07.840 --> 07:44:12.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na mataas kaysa 2026. asr-006551 07:44:12.700 --> 07:44:15.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ano po ba yung subscription na yun? asr-006552 07:44:17.320 --> 07:44:22.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pwede po bang ipaliwanag? asr-006553 07:44:22.200 --> 07:44:23.880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Anong, anong subscription to? asr-006554 07:44:34.180 --> 07:44:35.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Tama po, Mr. Speaker. asr-006555 07:44:35.980 --> 07:44:37.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ah, ng 2026 po, asr-006556 07:44:37.820 --> 07:44:38.380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung GAA, asr-006557 07:44:38.740 --> 07:44:39.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ah, yung level po, asr-006558 07:44:39.480 --> 07:44:41.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 172.8 million. asr-006559 07:44:42.540 --> 07:44:44.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ah, for 2027 NEP po, asr-006560 07:44:44.260 --> 07:44:45.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ang proposed po ay asr-006561 07:44:45.820 --> 07:44:47.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 261.18 million. asr-006562 07:44:47.300 --> 07:44:51.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, tumaas po ng asr-006563 07:44:51.040 --> 07:44:53.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 79 million. asr-006564 07:44:54.560 --> 07:44:55.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ah, ano po yung asr-006565 07:44:55.980 --> 07:44:57.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: pangalaw? asr-006566 07:44:57.340 --> 07:44:58.800 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Can we ask, Mr. Speaker, asr-006567 07:44:58.980 --> 07:44:59.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: distinct sponsor? asr-006568 07:45:00.000 --> 07:45:02.820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: What exactly is being subscribed to? asr-006569 07:45:03.840 --> 07:45:05.720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ano yung sinasubscribe natin dito? asr-006570 07:45:06.740 --> 07:45:07.860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Who are the suppliers? asr-006571 07:45:17.740 --> 07:45:20.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Habang pinupull up yung data, asr-006572 07:45:20.640 --> 07:45:22.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: distinguished colleague, para po daw po asr-006573 07:45:22.940 --> 07:45:27.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: para po daw po sa mga cyber security operations ng NSC. asr-006574 07:45:27.180 --> 07:45:30.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pero kinukuha po namin yung datos dun sa asr-006575 07:45:30.460 --> 07:45:37.380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: listahan po nung particular programs po na asr-006576 07:45:37.380 --> 07:45:40.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung sa subscription po dun sa... asr-006577 07:45:40.220 --> 07:45:44.100 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Are these contracts multi-year o annual? asr-006578 07:45:57.180 --> 07:46:03.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yung subscription po na type, annual po siya. asr-006579 07:46:03.700 --> 07:46:06.020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero nag-renew po siya every year. asr-006580 07:46:06.540 --> 07:46:09.760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So annual, nagpo-procure tayo annually? asr-006581 07:46:10.860 --> 07:46:13.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Apo, for subscription expenses, Mr. Speaker. asr-006582 07:46:13.620 --> 07:46:14.960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pinapabid natin to? asr-006583 07:46:15.860 --> 07:46:16.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, sir. asr-006584 07:46:16.520 --> 07:46:16.900 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Annually. asr-006585 07:46:19.060 --> 07:46:21.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ano tong pinoprocure natin? asr-006586 07:46:23.140 --> 07:46:26.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Domestic to or foreign-owned platform? asr-006587 07:46:27.180 --> 07:46:41.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Depende po dun sa type of operation, Mr. Speaker. asr-006588 07:46:42.140 --> 07:46:46.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Kung domestic po siya or yung owner pong app. asr-006589 07:46:49.180 --> 07:46:50.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pinupulap lang po. asr-006590 07:46:50.980 --> 07:46:53.140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Halo siya, may domestic, may foreign? asr-006591 07:46:53.540 --> 07:46:55.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Apo, mixed po siya, Mr. Speaker. asr-006592 07:46:57.180 --> 07:46:59.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Dito sa personal services, asr-006593 07:47:00.520 --> 07:47:03.880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: bakit po ang daming bakante? asr-006594 07:47:05.140 --> 07:47:07.820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi pinipilled up yung plantilya, asr-006595 07:47:08.400 --> 07:47:11.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: pero tumataas po yung personal services, asr-006596 07:47:11.680 --> 07:47:13.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ang dami po nating contract of service? asr-006597 07:47:15.420 --> 07:47:18.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yung sa personal services po, Mr. Speaker, asr-006598 07:47:18.360 --> 07:47:21.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: tumaas po ng 6% dahil po dun sa SSL, asr-006599 07:47:22.320 --> 07:47:25.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung sa tranche po, yung bagong tranche po ng SSL. asr-006600 07:47:25.820 --> 07:47:27.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi may approved kayo. asr-006601 07:47:27.180 --> 07:47:32.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: May approved kayo na parang 100 plus na plantilya. asr-006602 07:47:33.260 --> 07:47:39.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Mga 170 yata, pero ilan ba yung approved na plantilya ninyo? asr-006603 07:47:39.540 --> 07:47:45.760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi nagagalit yung kasamahan ko dito na bakit hindi natin regularize yung ano. asr-006604 07:47:46.420 --> 07:47:47.780 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pupunta na naman sa DOLE ulit. asr-006605 07:47:57.180 --> 07:48:03.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: May nagbabalak dito na ipa-defer dahil hindi pinilapan yung... asr-006606 07:48:04.420 --> 07:48:06.600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya ako na lang ang nagtanong, baka ma-defer pa. asr-006607 07:48:07.140 --> 07:48:10.860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ilan po yung plantilya positions approved ng DBM? asr-006608 07:48:11.980 --> 07:48:14.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ngayon pong 2026 po, 212. asr-006609 07:48:15.140 --> 07:48:17.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Same lang po siya sa level ng 2025. asr-006610 07:48:17.260 --> 07:48:18.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ilan yung na-filled up? asr-006611 07:48:20.420 --> 07:48:21.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 165 po. asr-006612 07:48:21.940 --> 07:48:22.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: 165. asr-006613 07:48:22.500 --> 07:48:26.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ilan yung job order at saka contract of service? asr-006614 07:48:27.180 --> 07:48:31.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ang contract of service po for 2026 na na-approved po, 71. asr-006615 07:48:33.360 --> 07:48:33.880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ilan? asr-006616 07:48:34.740 --> 07:48:36.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 71 po, Mr. Speaker. asr-006617 07:48:36.280 --> 07:48:36.640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: 71? asr-006618 07:48:37.300 --> 07:48:37.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Opo. asr-006619 07:48:38.400 --> 07:48:41.640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, bakit po hindi na lang natin pinilapan yun? asr-006620 07:48:41.760 --> 07:48:45.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi that is a pattern among government agencies. asr-006621 07:48:47.140 --> 07:48:53.340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ang dami naming kaso sa labor, yung mga private, dahil doon sa contract of service, job order. asr-006622 07:48:53.340 --> 07:48:54.340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Bakit sa government? asr-006623 07:48:55.060 --> 07:48:57.140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ang daming un-filled na plantilya. asr-006624 07:48:57.180 --> 07:49:01.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tapos, maraming job order at saka COS. asr-006625 07:49:03.000 --> 07:49:11.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As per the agency po, Mr. Speaker, ongoing po yung review ng mga applications para po dun sa mga plantilya positions. asr-006626 07:49:16.280 --> 07:49:17.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Actually, no? asr-006627 07:49:18.800 --> 07:49:26.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: With all due respect, pasensya na, unacceptable yung mga sagot na yun. asr-006628 07:49:26.500 --> 07:49:27.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ang tanong ko, asr-006629 07:49:27.180 --> 07:49:36.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, hindi ko na lang, bakit mababa yung utilization natin sa budget? asr-006630 07:49:36.460 --> 07:49:39.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, hindi ko na lang isa-isahin kung saang banda. asr-006631 07:49:40.220 --> 07:49:46.640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero, bakit mababa yung budget utilization ninyo sa 2025? asr-006632 07:49:48.440 --> 07:49:53.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As per the agency po, Mr. Speaker, may mga delay lang daw po sa procurement. asr-006633 07:49:53.900 --> 07:49:57.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Dahil po, buhat nung nangyari po. asr-006634 07:49:57.180 --> 07:50:00.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Sa, ano, straight to foremost, marami pong na-delay na ICT equipment. asr-006635 07:50:01.220 --> 07:50:05.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Nagka-problema din po sa procurement kasi tumaas po yung mga materyales. asr-006636 07:50:05.460 --> 07:50:07.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, nagka-problema sa, ano. asr-006637 07:50:07.860 --> 07:50:09.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, hindi na ito magamit. asr-006638 07:50:10.620 --> 07:50:14.900 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yung hindi ninyo nagamit previous year, hindi na talaga ito magamit. asr-006639 07:50:21.820 --> 07:50:25.320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As per the agency, Mr. Speaker, continuing naman daw po. asr-006640 07:50:25.620 --> 07:50:26.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, magagamit pa. asr-006641 07:50:27.180 --> 07:50:30.580 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Itong 250 million, no, in confidential expenses. asr-006642 07:50:33.920 --> 07:50:41.460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Dito sa hiningin ninyong 250 million, halos kapariha lang ito sa 2026. asr-006643 07:50:41.460 --> 07:50:50.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: But, you did not identify the targets, ano yung sources or operations, no? asr-006644 07:50:51.660 --> 07:50:57.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pwede bang ma-devolve yung utilization asr-006645 07:50:57.180 --> 07:51:05.480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: saan natin ito gagamitin without, of course, breaching the national security aspect? asr-006646 07:51:07.660 --> 07:51:12.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi ko lang maintindihan kasi humihingi tayo, hindi naman natin nagamit. asr-006647 07:51:12.560 --> 07:51:15.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi natin na-identify saan gagamitin. asr-006659 07:52:53.040 --> 07:53:10.280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Actually, marami akong tanong, pero naawa ako sa sponsor. Kaibigan ko iyan, so dalawa na lang, last two na lang. Pag nasagot iyan, last two out of eight. Walo pa sana yung tanong ko, pero mahirap ipa-defer yung National Security Council. asr-006661 07:53:26.340 --> 07:53:30.660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague. Thank you for your patience. asr-006662 07:53:30.660 --> 07:53:35.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yung listahan po, isasubmit na lang po namin yung poll. asr-006663 07:53:35.640 --> 07:53:38.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pero ang pwede ko lang po sabihin para po dun sa confidential funds, asr-006664 07:53:39.680 --> 07:53:43.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung National Review of Foreign Investments on Military Cybersecurity, asr-006665 07:53:44.660 --> 07:53:47.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung 360 Archipelagic Security Governance, asr-006666 07:53:48.620 --> 07:53:53.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the Protection of Critical Information Infrastructure through Cybersecurity Efforts, asr-006667 07:53:54.220 --> 07:53:55.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Crisis Management, asr-006668 07:53:57.040 --> 07:54:02.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Tapos counter-intelligence operations. asr-006669 07:54:02.160 --> 07:54:04.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Okay. So, with? asr-006670 07:54:04.080 --> 07:54:07.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, Mr. Speaker, kung nahihirapan kayo sa procurement, asr-006671 07:54:07.840 --> 07:54:15.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I suggest the sponsor will introduce a special provision na asr-006672 07:54:15.120 --> 07:54:20.740 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: sana i-release ni DBM first quarter pa para may time pa kayo to procure. asr-006673 07:54:21.140 --> 07:54:25.040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi annual ka mo yung procurement. asr-006674 07:54:25.040 --> 07:54:30.280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi madidiado tayo sa ating National Security Airport. asr-006675 07:54:30.480 --> 07:54:30.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kayo pa. asr-006676 07:54:30.720 --> 07:54:33.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pa naman ang taga-advice ni Presidente. asr-006677 07:54:33.440 --> 07:54:35.400 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ito yung second to the last. asr-006678 07:54:35.940 --> 07:54:40.640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nakita ko, yung operations increased from approximately, asr-006679 07:54:40.960 --> 07:54:43.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yung expenses sa operations, asr-006680 07:54:44.220 --> 07:54:54.760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: increased from approximately 295 million in 2026 to 525 million in 2027, asr-006681 07:54:54.760 --> 07:55:00.600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: while the general administration, bumaba siya by more than one half. asr-006682 07:55:00.720 --> 07:55:03.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Bakit po nire-classify natin ito? asr-006683 07:55:09.040 --> 07:55:11.640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Is this a genuine, asr-006684 07:55:12.300 --> 07:55:21.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: is this only a genuine shift of resources towards the frontline national security functions asr-006685 07:55:21.660 --> 07:55:25.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: or primarily an accounting program? asr-006686 07:55:25.260 --> 07:55:30.680 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Accounting lang para nilipat lang natin ang, asr-006687 07:55:30.720 --> 07:55:31.720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ng ibang account code. asr-006688 07:55:33.140 --> 07:55:34.440 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nire-classify lang natin. asr-006689 07:55:35.660 --> 07:55:38.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Sinunod lang natin yung definition ng accounting, asr-006690 07:55:38.480 --> 07:55:39.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: accounting is an art. asr-006691 07:55:44.100 --> 07:55:46.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As per the agency, Mr. Speaker, asr-006692 07:55:47.400 --> 07:55:49.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kaya daw po bumaba yung sa gas, asr-006693 07:55:49.960 --> 07:55:53.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kasi may reclassification po ng ibang mga programa. asr-006694 07:55:54.180 --> 07:55:56.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, may mga gas daw po na, asr-006695 07:55:56.440 --> 07:56:00.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: may mga programa po na previously classified under the gas. asr-006696 07:56:00.720 --> 07:56:02.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pinasok daw po siya sa support to operations. asr-006697 07:56:02.780 --> 07:56:04.480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nilipat lang ng ibang account code. asr-006698 07:56:05.980 --> 07:56:06.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes po. asr-006699 07:56:06.280 --> 07:56:07.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nire-classify nga lang. asr-006700 07:56:08.340 --> 07:56:10.020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, a matter of accounting lang ito. asr-006701 07:56:10.720 --> 07:56:14.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi maapektuhan yung ating trabaho. asr-006702 07:56:14.860 --> 07:56:16.140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: A matter of accounting lang. asr-006703 07:56:16.880 --> 07:56:19.720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Baka may audit observation kayo, kaya nilipat ninyo? asr-006704 07:56:20.720 --> 07:56:21.640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya nilipat ninyo? asr-006705 07:56:22.500 --> 07:56:23.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Wala naman po. asr-006706 07:56:23.520 --> 07:56:23.780 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Okay. asr-006707 07:56:24.100 --> 07:56:24.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you. asr-006708 07:56:24.700 --> 07:56:25.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, last. asr-006709 07:56:26.740 --> 07:56:28.400 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero sana may anim pa. asr-006710 07:56:29.100 --> 07:56:30.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi ko maintindihan yung, asr-006711 07:56:30.500 --> 07:56:32.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: performance indicators ninyo. asr-006712 07:56:33.360 --> 07:56:35.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I don't know if this is part of the asr-006713 07:56:35.660 --> 07:56:40.140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: national security aspect, no? asr-006714 07:56:41.080 --> 07:56:42.600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Your target, halimbawa, asr-006715 07:56:42.880 --> 07:56:44.760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: for essential elements asr-006716 07:56:44.760 --> 07:56:46.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: of information, asr-006717 07:56:48.260 --> 07:56:50.560 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: 2026 is 548. asr-006718 07:56:51.300 --> 07:56:53.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero yung actual accomplishment ninyo is asr-006719 07:56:53.500 --> 07:56:56.240 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: 5,510. asr-006720 07:56:56.620 --> 07:56:58.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: More than 10 times the target. asr-006721 07:56:58.660 --> 07:57:00.340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Bakit po? asr-006722 07:57:00.500 --> 07:57:05.860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Mag-target ng 548 pero ma-complace 5,500. asr-006723 07:57:23.860 --> 07:57:25.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yung ibang agency kasi, asr-006724 07:57:25.840 --> 07:57:27.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: hirap pa nga sila makuha yung target nila. asr-006725 07:57:28.640 --> 07:57:29.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Sana BIR kayo. asr-006726 07:57:30.500 --> 07:57:33.340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Target 500, makulikta 1,500. asr-006727 07:57:33.340 --> 07:57:35.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ako, 5,500. asr-006728 07:57:37.040 --> 07:57:37.900 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Bakit po ganun? asr-006729 07:57:37.900 --> 07:57:39.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Times 10 yung accomplishment. asr-006730 07:57:43.560 --> 07:57:44.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Typo? asr-006731 07:57:44.160 --> 07:57:44.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Typo lang yan? asr-006732 07:57:44.940 --> 07:57:49.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: O talagang tama yung number na yan? asr-006747 07:58:03.860 --> 07:58:09.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, as per the agency po, kaya po medyo asr-006748 07:58:09.260 --> 07:58:13.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: mataas po compared to the target. Depende daw po sa incidents. asr-006749 07:58:13.620 --> 07:58:15.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Depende sa? asr-006750 07:58:15.920 --> 07:58:24.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Incidents. So, with regard to kung ilan po yung essential elements na kailangang kunin, kaya po medyo tumaas po. asr-006763 07:58:24.580 --> 07:58:28.880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Again, I am not satisfied with the answer. asr-006768 07:58:28.880 --> 07:58:32.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: May mali talaga sa projection ninyo. asr-006769 07:58:32.800 --> 07:58:36.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi dapat matalas yung ano ninyo, asr-006770 07:58:36.160 --> 07:58:39.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: National Security Advisor kayo ni Presidente, asr-006771 07:58:39.200 --> 07:58:41.340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: tapos sa target man lang ng accomplishment, asr-006772 07:58:41.580 --> 07:58:46.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: napakalayo, 10 times yung error. asr-006773 07:58:46.320 --> 07:58:48.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So yung margin of error sa susunod, asr-006774 07:58:49.140 --> 07:58:50.380 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nandito pa ako sa susunod, asr-006775 07:58:50.500 --> 07:58:51.860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: hindi pa matapos yung term ko, asr-006776 07:58:52.360 --> 07:58:53.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: titignan ko ulit yan. asr-006777 07:58:54.180 --> 07:58:58.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Can we expect that almost accurate, realistic? asr-006778 07:58:58.620 --> 07:59:01.280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Huwag kayo mag-target ng 500, asr-006779 07:59:01.560 --> 07:59:03.880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ang accomplishment 5,500? asr-006780 07:59:04.140 --> 07:59:05.960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi medyo nakakaduda na po yan. asr-006781 07:59:07.220 --> 07:59:09.400 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Would you agree with me, Mr. Speaker, asr-006782 07:59:09.640 --> 07:59:10.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Distinguished Sponsor, asr-006783 07:59:10.520 --> 07:59:13.460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na nakakaduda na po yung mag-target ka 500, asr-006784 07:59:13.700 --> 07:59:15.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ma-accomplish mo 5,500? asr-006785 07:59:17.760 --> 07:59:18.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tama po ba? asr-006786 07:59:19.340 --> 07:59:21.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Malayo po talaga, Mr. Speaker. asr-006787 07:59:21.640 --> 07:59:25.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Though, ang sabi po ng NSA, asr-006788 07:59:25.900 --> 07:59:26.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: NSE, asr-006789 07:59:26.740 --> 07:59:27.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kasi po, asr-006790 07:59:27.880 --> 07:59:28.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: depended daw po, asr-006791 07:59:28.620 --> 07:59:30.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: talaga sa number of incidents. asr-006792 07:59:30.400 --> 07:59:31.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Okay, sige. asr-006793 07:59:35.480 --> 07:59:36.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tinanggal ko na, Mr. Speaker, asr-006794 07:59:37.100 --> 07:59:38.780 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yung anim na katanungan asr-006795 07:59:38.780 --> 07:59:39.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kasi alam ko, asr-006796 07:59:39.500 --> 07:59:41.020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: mahirapan sila magsagot. asr-006797 07:59:41.540 --> 07:59:43.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Inaantok na rin po yung presiding officer. asr-006798 07:59:44.660 --> 07:59:46.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, Mr. Speaker, asr-006799 07:59:46.920 --> 07:59:47.720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Distinguished Sponsor, asr-006800 07:59:47.800 --> 07:59:49.560 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: malaming salamat sa kasagutan. asr-006801 07:59:50.320 --> 07:59:52.740 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: There being no other members from the minority asr-006802 07:59:52.740 --> 07:59:54.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: who wanted to interpelate, asr-006803 07:59:54.760 --> 07:59:57.960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I move to terminate the period of interpellation asr-006804 07:59:57.960 --> 07:59:58.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: and debate asr-006805 07:59:58.620 --> 07:59:59.900 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: to asr-006806 08:00:00.000 --> 08:00:02.280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: the proposed budget of the asr-006807 08:00:02.280 --> 08:00:04.200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: National Security Council for the asr-006808 08:00:04.200 --> 08:00:06.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: fiscal year 2027. asr-006809 08:00:06.820 --> 08:00:07.980 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I so move, Mr. Speaker. asr-006810 08:00:08.460 --> 08:00:09.240 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: What does the [unclear]? asr-006811 08:00:10.320 --> 08:00:12.280 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, asr-006812 08:00:12.420 --> 08:00:14.460 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: we join the minority in the motion to terminate asr-006813 08:00:14.460 --> 08:00:15.980 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: the period of interpellations asr-006814 08:00:15.980 --> 08:00:18.180 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: on the proposed budget of the National asr-006815 08:00:18.180 --> 08:00:20.340 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Security Council. I so move, Mr. Speaker. asr-006816 08:00:20.720 --> 08:00:22.480 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: There is a joint motion asr-006817 08:00:22.480 --> 08:00:23.720 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: to terminate asr-006818 08:00:23.720 --> 08:00:26.260 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: the interpellation on the proposed asr-006819 08:00:26.260 --> 08:00:28.460 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: budget of the National Security asr-006820 08:00:28.460 --> 08:00:28.860 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Council. asr-006821 08:00:30.000 --> 08:00:30.880 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Is there any objection? asr-006822 08:00:32.040 --> 08:00:34.300 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Hearing none, the interpellation asr-006823 08:00:34.300 --> 08:00:36.100 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: on the proposed budget of the asr-006824 08:00:36.100 --> 08:00:38.340 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: National Security Council asr-006825 08:00:38.340 --> 08:00:40.280 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: is thereby terminated. asr-006826 08:00:41.420 --> 08:00:42.380 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: You are the leader. asr-006827 08:00:49.640 --> 08:00:50.600 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, asr-006828 08:00:50.820 --> 08:00:52.820 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: I move to suspend for a few minutes. asr-006829 08:00:53.100 --> 08:00:54.000 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Session is suspended. asr-006835 08:03:30.000 --> 08:03:34.420 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session resumed. asr-006836 08:03:35.080 --> 08:03:36.560 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Before we proceed, asr-006837 08:03:37.020 --> 08:03:37.660 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader, asr-006838 08:03:38.980 --> 08:03:40.800 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: can we all please rise asr-006839 08:03:40.800 --> 08:03:43.400 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: for a moment asr-006840 08:03:43.400 --> 08:03:45.380 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of silence and offer a prayer asr-006841 08:03:45.380 --> 08:03:47.680 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: for our beloved asr-006842 08:03:47.680 --> 08:03:49.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: colleague, the Honorable asr-006843 08:03:49.540 --> 08:03:50.940 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Ciriaco B. Gato, asr-006844 08:03:51.860 --> 08:03:53.080 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: who passed away asr-006845 08:03:53.080 --> 08:03:53.980 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: earlier today. asr-006846 08:04:00.000 --> 08:04:17.240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. asr-006847 08:04:18.440 --> 08:04:20.580 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider asr-006848 08:04:20.580 --> 08:04:22.780 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: the proposed budget of the asr-006849 08:04:22.780 --> 08:04:24.400 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: National Amnesty asr-006850 08:04:24.400 --> 08:04:25.160 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Commission. asr-006851 08:04:25.160 --> 08:04:27.500 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a motion to consider asr-006852 08:04:27.500 --> 08:04:29.160 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: the budget of the National asr-006853 08:04:29.160 --> 08:04:29.960 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Amnesty Commission. asr-006854 08:04:30.000 --> 08:04:31.900 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Is there any objection? asr-006855 08:04:32.680 --> 08:04:34.320 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Hearing none. Motion is carried. asr-006856 08:04:35.180 --> 08:04:36.040 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. asr-006857 08:04:36.480 --> 08:04:38.120 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge asr-006858 08:04:38.120 --> 08:04:40.420 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: the heads and officials of the asr-006859 08:04:40.420 --> 08:04:41.940 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: National Amnesty Commission, asr-006860 08:04:42.460 --> 08:04:44.540 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: namely Chairperson Leah C. asr-006861 08:04:45.120 --> 08:04:46.460 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Tanodra Armamento, asr-006862 08:04:47.040 --> 08:04:47.680 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Commissioner asr-006863 08:04:47.680 --> 08:04:49.900 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Jamar M. asr-006864 08:04:50.500 --> 08:04:52.180 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Kulayan, Commissioner asr-006865 08:04:52.180 --> 08:04:53.980 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Ser-me L. asr-006866 08:04:54.800 --> 08:04:55.380 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Ayuyao. asr-006867 08:04:58.398 --> 08:05:00.638 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: To the officers, asr-006868 08:05:00.638 --> 08:05:03.160 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and the heads of the National Amnesty Commission, asr-006869 08:05:03.160 --> 08:05:07.400 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: namely Chairperson Leah Tanodra Armamento, asr-006870 08:05:07.400 --> 08:05:10.000 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Commissioner Jamar M. Kulayan, asr-006871 08:05:10.000 --> 08:05:12.200 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and Commissioner Ser-me Ayuyao, asr-006872 08:05:12.200 --> 08:05:15.120 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: on behalf of Speaker Bojie Dy asr-006873 08:05:15.120 --> 08:05:17.480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and Majority Leader Sandro Marcos, asr-006874 08:05:17.480 --> 08:05:19.280 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Sir, Ma'am, good evening. asr-006875 08:05:19.280 --> 08:05:21.920 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Welcome to the House of Representatives. asr-006876 08:05:21.920 --> 08:05:23.920 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. asr-006877 08:05:25.200 --> 08:05:29.840 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate. asr-006879 08:05:29.840 --> 08:05:35.840 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: I move that we recognize the Honorable Jose Joboy S. Aquino II, asr-006880 08:05:35.840 --> 08:05:40.240 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Vice Chairperson of Committee on Appropriation asr-006881 08:05:40.240 --> 08:05:45.240 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: to sponsor the proposed budget of the National Amnesty Commission. asr-006882 08:05:45.240 --> 08:05:51.240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentleman from the Lone District of Butuan, Vice Chair Joboy Aquino, asr-006883 08:05:51.240 --> 08:05:54.240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Mayong Gabie, you are recognized. asr-006884 08:05:54.240 --> 08:05:57.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, Mayong Gabie, Mr. Speaker, asr-006885 08:05:57.240 --> 08:05:59.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: distinguished colleagues, asr-006886 08:05:59.240 --> 08:06:06.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: it is my privilege to sponsor the proposed budget of the National Amnesty Commission asr-006887 08:06:06.240 --> 08:06:09.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the fiscal year 2027, asr-006888 08:06:09.240 --> 08:06:15.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: amounting to 266,700,000. asr-006889 08:06:15.240 --> 08:06:23.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: As an institution entrusted with implementing the Government's Amnesty Program asr-006890 08:06:23.240 --> 08:06:28.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for qualified beneficiaries in accordance with existing laws asr-006891 08:06:28.240 --> 08:06:30.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and proclamations, asr-006892 08:06:30.240 --> 08:06:36.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the Commission plays an important role in supporting the Government's efforts asr-006893 08:06:36.240 --> 08:06:43.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: towards reconciliation, reintegration, and the promotion of lasting peace asr-006894 08:06:43.240 --> 08:06:50.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: by providing a lawful mechanism through which qualified individuals asr-006895 08:06:50.240 --> 08:06:54.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: may avail themselves of amnesty. asr-006896 08:06:54.240 --> 08:06:57.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Its work requires asr-006897 08:06:57.240 --> 08:07:05.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: not only the proper evaluation and processing of applicants, asr-006898 08:07:05.240 --> 08:07:11.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: but also effective coordination with concerned government agencies asr-006899 08:07:11.240 --> 08:07:16.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to ensure that the objectives of the Amnesty Program asr-006900 08:07:16.240 --> 08:07:21.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: are carried out efficiently and in accordance with the law. asr-006901 08:07:21.240 --> 08:07:25.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: As we deliberate on the fiscal year 2027, asr-006902 08:07:25.240 --> 08:07:30.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: budget of the National Amnesty Commission, asr-006903 08:07:30.240 --> 08:07:36.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: we recognize the importance of providing the resources necessary asr-006904 08:07:36.240 --> 08:07:40.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the Commission to fulfill its mandate asr-006905 08:07:40.240 --> 08:07:47.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: while ensuring accountability and prudent use of public funds. asr-006906 08:07:47.240 --> 08:07:53.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The Commission's appropriations must support the effective administration asr-006907 08:07:53.240 --> 08:07:56.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of the Amnesty Program, asr-006908 08:07:56.240 --> 08:08:01.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: including the processing and issuance of amnesty grants asr-006909 08:08:01.240 --> 08:08:08.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as well as the institutional requirements necessary for its operations. asr-006910 08:08:08.240 --> 08:08:10.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: In view of the foregoing, asr-006911 08:08:10.240 --> 08:08:14.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I therefore ask our fellow members of this August Chamber asr-006912 08:08:14.240 --> 08:08:20.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to support the proposed budget of the National Amnesty Commission asr-006913 08:08:20.240 --> 08:08:22.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the successful implementation asr-006914 08:08:22.240 --> 08:08:26.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of the Amnesty Program. asr-006915 08:08:26.240 --> 08:08:28.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-006916 08:08:28.240 --> 08:08:34.430 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This representation is now ready to answer questions from our colleagues. asr-006917 08:08:34.430 --> 08:08:37.240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Salamat, Vice Chair Joboy. Majority Leader. asr-006918 08:08:38.200 --> 08:08:40.240 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize asr-006919 08:08:40.240 --> 08:08:45.240 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: the Honorable Presley C. De Jesus from PHILRECA Party-list asr-006920 08:08:45.240 --> 08:08:50.240 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: to interpellate the proposed budget of the National Amnesty Commission. asr-006921 08:08:50.240 --> 08:08:52.240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentleman from asr-006922 08:08:52.240 --> 08:08:54.240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: PHILRECA Party-list, asr-006923 08:08:54.240 --> 08:08:58.240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Honorable Presley De Jesus. asr-006924 08:08:58.240 --> 08:09:03.240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Sir, you may interpellate the sponsor. asr-006925 08:09:03.240 --> 08:09:05.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-006926 08:09:05.240 --> 08:09:07.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I have only a few questions. asr-006927 08:09:07.240 --> 08:09:12.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: First, the National Amnesty Commission was created precisely asr-006928 08:09:12.240 --> 08:09:18.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to receive, process, and determine whether applicants are entitled to amnesty asr-006929 08:09:18.240 --> 08:09:20.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: under Executive Order No. 125, asr-006930 08:09:20.240 --> 08:09:23.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: as amended by Executive Order 47. asr-006931 08:09:23.240 --> 08:09:28.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: This is the Commission's principal statutory mandate. asr-006932 08:09:28.240 --> 08:09:32.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The application period for the four amnesty proclamations asr-006933 08:09:32.240 --> 08:09:37.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ran from March 2024 until March 2026. asr-006934 08:09:37.240 --> 08:09:41.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yet, based on the Commission's reported figures, asr-006935 08:09:41.240 --> 08:09:45.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: only 20 applicants have been granted amnesty asr-006936 08:09:45.240 --> 08:09:47.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by the close of the application period, asr-006937 08:09:47.240 --> 08:09:49.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: out of approximately 16,000 applicants. asr-006938 08:09:49.240 --> 08:10:01.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: This is equivalent to only 0.1232% of applications received. asr-006939 08:10:01.240 --> 08:10:05.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How does the Commission justify this level of output asr-006940 08:10:05.240 --> 08:10:09.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: after two full years of implementation? asr-006941 08:10:09.240 --> 08:10:14.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: More importantly, how many of the 16,230 applications asr-006942 08:10:14.240 --> 08:10:17.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: have actually been fully evaluated and resolved? asr-006943 08:10:17.240 --> 08:10:22.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Whether approved, denied, or otherwise disposed of? asr-006944 08:10:22.240 --> 08:10:31.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And how many remain pending? asr-006945 08:10:31.240 --> 08:10:38.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-006946 08:10:38.240 --> 08:10:44.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: There were several factors that affect this and reasons. asr-006947 08:10:44.240 --> 08:10:46.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Number one, the incomplete submitted documents. asr-006948 08:10:46.240 --> 08:10:51.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Many applications lack documents necessary asr-006949 08:10:51.240 --> 08:10:54.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the complete review of the amnesty application. asr-006950 08:10:54.240 --> 08:10:58.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Requiring them to submit lacking documents asr-006951 08:10:58.240 --> 08:11:03.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is challenging due to logistical and financial concerns, asr-006952 08:11:03.240 --> 08:11:08.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as well as reluctance of other agencies to coordinate. asr-006953 08:11:08.240 --> 08:11:14.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: NAC response: continuous streamlining and simplification asr-006954 08:11:14.240 --> 08:11:19.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of process, determining which documentary requirements asr-006955 08:11:19.240 --> 08:11:21.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: can be dispensed with. asr-006956 08:11:21.240 --> 08:11:26.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Number two, unresponsive and uncooperative agencies. asr-006957 08:11:26.240 --> 08:11:29.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Some agencies are not familiar with the NAC. asr-006958 08:11:29.240 --> 08:11:33.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Some are reluctant to share documents with the NAC. asr-006959 08:11:33.240 --> 08:11:39.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Some use the Data Privacy Act to refuse NAC access asr-006960 08:11:39.240 --> 08:11:42.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to requested documents. asr-006961 08:11:42.240 --> 08:11:47.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Continuous engagement with these agencies asr-006962 08:11:47.240 --> 08:11:50.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to make NAC known to them. asr-006963 08:11:50.240 --> 08:11:53.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Orientations on the mandate of the NAC, asr-006964 08:11:53.240 --> 08:11:57.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: reiteration that the request for documents asr-006965 08:11:57.240 --> 08:12:00.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is pursuant to NAC's mandate, asr-006966 08:12:00.240 --> 08:12:04.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: making it official function. asr-006967 08:12:04.240 --> 08:12:08.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Number three, difficulty in declaring a quorum asr-006968 08:12:08.240 --> 08:12:10.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for lab members. asr-006969 08:12:10.240 --> 08:12:13.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Many amnesty applications need to undergo asr-006970 08:12:13.240 --> 08:12:16.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: a case conference by lab members. asr-006971 08:12:16.240 --> 08:12:18.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Each lab has five members, asr-006972 08:12:18.240 --> 08:12:21.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: which a quorum fixed at three members asr-006973 08:12:21.240 --> 08:12:24.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to formally constitute a body. asr-006974 08:12:24.240 --> 08:12:27.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: These lab members are employed primarily asr-006975 08:12:27.240 --> 08:12:29.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in different offices. asr-006976 08:12:29.240 --> 08:12:33.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thus, their schedules are usually difficult to manage, asr-006977 08:12:33.240 --> 08:12:37.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: resulting in regular meetings. asr-006978 08:12:37.240 --> 08:12:40.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ensuring honoraria are released asr-006979 08:12:40.240 --> 08:12:42.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in a timely manner. asr-006980 08:12:42.240 --> 08:12:45.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Proper coordination and engagement asr-006981 08:12:45.240 --> 08:12:46.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with the lab members, asr-006982 08:12:46.240 --> 08:12:49.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: capacitating lab secretariat asr-006983 08:12:49.240 --> 08:12:53.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: on how to coordinate better with lab members. asr-006984 08:12:53.240 --> 08:12:57.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Number four, different review process. asr-006985 08:12:57.240 --> 08:13:01.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Review process by the ex-official members asr-006986 08:13:01.240 --> 08:13:05.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: involve a separate and independent process asr-006987 08:13:05.240 --> 08:13:07.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and standard. asr-006988 08:13:07.240 --> 08:13:09.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This takes up time. asr-006989 08:13:09.240 --> 08:13:13.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It takes up time that is not within the process asr-006990 08:13:13.240 --> 08:13:17.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that can be controlled by NAC. asr-006991 08:13:17.240 --> 08:13:23.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: NAC response is to continue coordination, asr-006992 08:13:23.240 --> 08:13:25.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: streamlining of process, asr-006993 08:13:25.240 --> 08:13:27.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: regular process check, asr-006994 08:13:27.240 --> 08:13:30.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and technical working group meetings. asr-006995 08:13:30.240 --> 08:13:32.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Designation of personnel asr-006996 08:13:32.240 --> 08:13:35.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to specifically follow up asr-006997 08:13:35.240 --> 08:13:39.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with each ex-official member. asr-006998 08:13:39.240 --> 08:13:43.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Number five, low manpower. asr-006999 08:13:43.240 --> 08:13:47.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: With the postponement of hiring of COS asr-007000 08:13:47.240 --> 08:13:50.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: imposed by civil service, asr-007001 08:13:50.240 --> 08:13:57.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the NAC operates with its limited manpower. asr-007002 08:13:57.240 --> 08:14:00.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: With the surge of the amnesty application asr-007003 08:14:00.240 --> 08:14:03.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: received corresponding increase in manpower asr-007004 08:14:03.240 --> 08:14:08.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to who will process this amnesty application. asr-007005 08:14:08.240 --> 08:14:10.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Necessary. asr-007006 08:14:10.240 --> 08:14:12.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The response of NAC. asr-007007 08:14:12.240 --> 08:14:16.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Letter request sent to COA DBM asr-007008 08:14:16.240 --> 08:14:19.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and civil service for an exemption. asr-007009 08:14:19.240 --> 08:14:22.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Streamlining of process to simplify asr-007010 08:14:22.240 --> 08:14:26.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: or shorten process for faster processing. asr-007011 08:14:26.240 --> 08:14:29.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Continuous capacity building asr-007012 08:14:29.240 --> 08:14:31.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and process checking. asr-007013 08:14:31.240 --> 08:14:35.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Commitment to deliver NAC mandate asr-007014 08:14:35.240 --> 08:14:37.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and digitalization. asr-007015 08:14:37.240 --> 08:14:40.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you. asr-007016 08:14:40.240 --> 08:14:41.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, asr-007017 08:14:41.240 --> 08:14:42.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, asr-007018 08:14:42.240 --> 08:14:45.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Distinguished Sponsor. asr-007019 08:14:45.240 --> 08:14:47.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Record shows that asr-007020 08:14:47.240 --> 08:14:50.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there are currently 16,230 pending applicants asr-007021 08:14:50.240 --> 08:14:52.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for amnesty. asr-007022 08:14:52.240 --> 08:14:55.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yet the data indicates that only asr-007023 08:14:55.240 --> 08:14:57.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 20 applications have been approved asr-007024 08:14:57.240 --> 08:14:59.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: over the past three years. asr-007025 08:14:59.240 --> 08:15:00.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So we're asr-007026 08:15:00.000 --> 08:15:02.000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: just averaging 7 applicants asr-007027 08:15:02.000 --> 08:15:04.060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: per year. It will asr-007028 08:15:04.060 --> 08:15:05.840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: take the commission over asr-007029 08:15:05.840 --> 08:15:07.760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: two millennia to clear asr-007030 08:15:07.760 --> 08:15:09.240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the existing backlog. asr-007031 08:15:09.960 --> 08:15:11.880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What concrete time-bound strategy is asr-007032 08:15:11.880 --> 08:15:13.920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the NAC implementing to asr-007033 08:15:13.920 --> 08:15:16.180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: accelerate the vetting approval process? asr-007034 08:15:16.700 --> 08:15:17.780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because for the last 3 years, asr-007035 08:15:17.880 --> 08:15:18.420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, asr-007036 08:15:19.220 --> 08:15:21.480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 20 lang. asr-007037 08:15:21.800 --> 08:15:23.680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So we're averaging 7 asr-007038 08:15:23.680 --> 08:15:25.540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: per year. So we have asr-007039 08:15:25.540 --> 08:15:27.740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 16,000. So ano pong strategy asr-007040 08:15:27.740 --> 08:15:29.540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ang gagawin natin para po asr-007041 08:15:29.540 --> 08:15:31.180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: mapabilis itong asr-007042 08:15:31.180 --> 08:15:33.720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: mga nag-apply po ng amnesty? asr-007043 08:15:34.940 --> 08:15:35.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Well, asr-007044 08:15:35.900 --> 08:15:37.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: right now, 3,000 asr-007045 08:15:37.300 --> 08:15:39.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: result of the amnesty asr-007046 08:15:39.460 --> 08:15:42.980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is 3,166. asr-007047 08:15:43.620 --> 08:15:44.820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished colleague. asr-007048 08:15:46.260 --> 08:15:47.380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So maliho yung asr-007049 08:15:47.380 --> 08:15:49.000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 20 for the last 3 years? asr-007050 08:15:54.960 --> 08:15:55.680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Actually, asr-007051 08:15:55.920 --> 08:15:56.980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the 20 asr-007052 08:15:56.980 --> 08:15:59.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is already granted by the President. asr-007053 08:15:59.540 --> 08:16:01.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, for the last 3 years. asr-007055 08:16:03.820 --> 08:16:04.320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: In fact, asr-007056 08:16:05.780 --> 08:16:07.420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: office of the, I'm sorry, asr-007057 08:16:07.540 --> 08:16:09.140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: but it's office of the President, asr-007058 08:16:09.740 --> 08:16:11.500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 25, 25 asr-007059 08:16:11.500 --> 08:16:12.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: distinguished colleague. asr-007060 08:16:14.260 --> 08:16:15.520 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And as asr-007061 08:16:15.520 --> 08:16:17.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: earlier also as I've mentioned, asr-007062 08:16:18.060 --> 08:16:19.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: those 5 factors asr-007063 08:16:19.540 --> 08:16:21.700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that can make it asr-007064 08:16:21.700 --> 08:16:22.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: faster asr-007065 08:16:22.480 --> 08:16:25.360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the processing asr-007066 08:16:25.360 --> 08:16:26.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of the application. asr-007067 08:16:26.480 --> 08:16:27.900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-007068 08:16:28.080 --> 08:16:29.380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So in the next, asr-007069 08:16:29.540 --> 08:16:31.040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: few years ba, makikita natin, asr-007070 08:16:31.180 --> 08:16:31.640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it will, asr-007071 08:16:32.860 --> 08:16:35.140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: we will granted more asr-007072 08:16:35.140 --> 08:16:37.360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: amnesty aside from asr-007073 08:16:37.360 --> 08:16:39.580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the 20 na na-mention. Bibilis ho ba ito? asr-007074 08:16:39.580 --> 08:16:41.460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So ano ba yung proseso na gagawin nyo asr-007075 08:16:41.460 --> 08:16:43.540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: para mapabilis? Everything has been asr-007076 08:16:43.540 --> 08:16:44.280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: vetted, right? asr-007077 08:16:45.820 --> 08:16:47.620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Tomorrow, there will be a right shop. asr-007078 08:16:48.180 --> 08:16:48.700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay. asr-007078-split-2 08:16:48.700 --> 08:16:49.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Especially asr-007079 08:16:49.080 --> 08:16:51.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: if the budget for NAC will be asr-007080 08:16:51.440 --> 08:16:52.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: approved tonight. asr-007081 08:16:53.220 --> 08:16:55.560 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you very much, Speaker. Distinguished colleague. asr-007082 08:16:56.080 --> 08:16:57.700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you very much, Speaker. Of course, asr-007083 08:16:57.820 --> 08:16:59.020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to the Distinguished Honor, asr-007084 08:16:59.540 --> 08:17:01.620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sponsor na isa nating asr-007085 08:17:01.620 --> 08:17:04.020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: inidulo. So I don't want to give asr-007086 08:17:04.020 --> 08:17:05.880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: you hard time because it's very active asr-007087 08:17:05.880 --> 08:17:07.960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: here. There being no, Mr. Speaker, asr-007088 08:17:08.120 --> 08:17:09.640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no members asr-007089 08:17:09.640 --> 08:17:11.520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the minority who wishes asr-007090 08:17:11.520 --> 08:17:13.760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to interpellate, asr-007091 08:17:14.340 --> 08:17:15.520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate asr-007092 08:17:15.520 --> 08:17:18.040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the sponsorship and debate asr-007093 08:17:18.040 --> 08:17:19.880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the budget of National asr-007094 08:17:19.880 --> 08:17:21.140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Amnesty Commission. asr-007095 08:17:21.860 --> 08:17:22.980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Mr. Speaker. asr-007096 08:17:23.640 --> 08:17:24.620 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: What does the House say? asr-007097 08:17:25.840 --> 08:17:27.940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-007098 08:17:28.120 --> 08:17:29.180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I would like to thank the asr-007099 08:17:29.540 --> 08:17:31.000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: my colleagues, asr-007100 08:17:31.220 --> 08:17:33.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: distinguished colleagues here asr-007101 08:17:33.960 --> 08:17:36.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the House, both the minority asr-007102 08:17:36.080 --> 08:17:37.500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and the majority. Thank you. asr-007103 08:17:39.600 --> 08:17:40.840 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: What does the House say? asr-007104 08:17:41.720 --> 08:17:44.020 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, asr-007105 08:17:44.340 --> 08:17:46.180 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: we join the minority in the motion asr-007106 08:17:46.180 --> 08:17:48.120 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: to terminate the period asr-007107 08:17:48.120 --> 08:17:49.200 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: of interpellation asr-007108 08:17:49.200 --> 08:17:51.980 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: on the budget of the asr-007109 08:17:51.980 --> 08:17:54.100 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: National asr-007110 08:17:54.100 --> 08:17:55.100 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Amnesty Commission. asr-007111 08:17:56.300 --> 08:17:58.340 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a joint motion to terminate asr-007112 08:17:58.340 --> 08:17:59.480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: the interpellation on the asr-007113 08:17:59.540 --> 08:18:01.620 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: proposed budget for the asr-007114 08:18:01.620 --> 08:18:03.160 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: National Amnesty Commission. asr-007115 08:18:03.640 --> 08:18:05.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There any objection? Chair, asr-007116 08:18:05.580 --> 08:18:07.600 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: hearing none. The interpellation asr-007117 08:18:07.600 --> 08:18:09.440 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: on the proposed budget asr-007118 08:18:09.440 --> 08:18:11.660 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of the National Amnesty asr-007119 08:18:11.660 --> 08:18:13.440 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Commission is asr-007120 08:18:13.440 --> 08:18:14.520 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: terminated. asr-007121 08:18:17.220 --> 08:18:18.180 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. asr-007122 08:18:19.980 --> 08:18:21.060 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, asr-007123 08:18:21.380 --> 08:18:23.600 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: I move to suspend for a few minutes. asr-007124 08:18:23.740 --> 08:18:24.480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session suspended. asr-007125 08:18:27.620 --> 08:18:28.840 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Congrats, Joboy. asr-007156 08:21:17.540 --> 08:21:19.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session resumed. asr-007157 08:21:19.540 --> 08:21:21.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. asr-007158 08:21:23.540 --> 08:21:25.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mr. Speaker, asr-007159 08:21:25.540 --> 08:21:27.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: I move to consider the proposed asr-007160 08:21:27.540 --> 08:21:29.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: budget of the asr-007161 08:21:29.540 --> 08:21:31.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Office of the Presidential Advisor asr-007162 08:21:31.540 --> 08:21:33.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: on Peace, Reconciliation, and Unity. asr-007163 08:21:35.540 --> 08:21:37.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a motion to consider the budget asr-007164 08:21:37.540 --> 08:21:39.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of the Office of the Presidential Advisor asr-007165 08:21:39.540 --> 08:21:41.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: on Peace, asr-007166 08:21:41.540 --> 08:21:43.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Reconciliation, and Unity. asr-007167 08:21:43.540 --> 08:21:45.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is no objection. asr-007168 08:21:45.540 --> 08:21:47.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Motion is carried. Majority Leader. asr-007169 08:21:47.540 --> 08:21:49.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mr. Speaker, asr-007170 08:21:49.540 --> 08:21:51.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: may we acknowledge the heads asr-007171 08:21:51.540 --> 08:21:53.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: and officials of the asr-007172 08:21:53.540 --> 08:21:55.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Office of the Presidential Advisor asr-007173 08:21:55.540 --> 08:21:57.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: on Peace, Reconciliation, and Unity, asr-007174 08:21:57.540 --> 08:21:59.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: namely, asr-007175 08:21:59.540 --> 08:22:01.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mel Senen Sarmiento, asr-007176 08:22:01.540 --> 08:22:03.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Yusec asr-007177 08:22:03.540 --> 08:22:05.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Hefer Refamonte asr-007178 08:22:05.540 --> 08:22:07.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mancol, asr-007179 08:22:07.540 --> 08:22:09.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Yusec Wilben asr-007180 08:22:09.540 --> 08:22:11.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mayor, asr-007181 08:22:11.540 --> 08:22:13.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Yusec Noel Alvarez asr-007182 08:22:13.540 --> 08:22:15.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Baraceros, asr-007183 08:22:15.540 --> 08:22:17.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Asec Mary Marjorie Martin asr-007184 08:22:17.540 --> 08:22:19.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Chan, and asr-007185 08:22:19.540 --> 08:22:21.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Asec Andres S. Aguinaldo, Jr. asr-007186 08:22:23.540 --> 08:22:25.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: To the heads of asr-007187 08:22:25.540 --> 08:22:27.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: the Office of the asr-007188 08:22:27.540 --> 08:22:29.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Presidential asr-007189 08:22:29.540 --> 08:22:31.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Advisor on Peace, asr-007190 08:22:31.540 --> 08:22:33.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Reconciliation, and Unity, asr-007191 08:22:33.540 --> 08:22:35.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: namely, a colleague, asr-007192 08:22:35.540 --> 08:22:37.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: former Secretary Mel asr-007193 08:22:37.540 --> 08:22:39.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Senen Sarmiento, asr-007194 08:22:39.540 --> 08:22:41.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Yusec Hefer Refamonte asr-007195 08:22:41.540 --> 08:22:43.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Mancol, Yusec Winbel asr-007196 08:22:43.540 --> 08:22:45.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Mayor, Yusec Noel asr-007197 08:22:45.540 --> 08:22:47.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Alvarez Baraceros, asr-007198 08:22:47.540 --> 08:22:49.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Asec Mary Marjorie Martin Chan, asr-007199 08:22:49.540 --> 08:22:51.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Asec Andres S. Aguinaldo, Jr. asr-007200 08:22:51.540 --> 08:22:53.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: In behalf of Speaker asr-007201 08:22:53.540 --> 08:22:55.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Bojie Dy and Majority Leader asr-007202 08:22:55.540 --> 08:22:57.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Sandro Marcos, welcome to the House of Representatives. asr-007203 08:22:57.540 --> 08:22:59.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. asr-007204 08:22:59.540 --> 08:23:01.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I asr-007205 08:23:01.540 --> 08:23:03.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: move that we open the period asr-007206 08:23:03.540 --> 08:23:05.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of sponsorship and debate asr-007207 08:23:05.540 --> 08:23:07.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: and accordingly asr-007208 08:23:07.540 --> 08:23:09.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: we recognize asr-007209 08:23:09.540 --> 08:23:11.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: the Vice Chairman of asr-007210 08:23:11.540 --> 08:23:13.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: the Committee on Appropriation, asr-007211 08:23:13.540 --> 08:23:15.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: the Honorable Jose Joboy asr-007212 08:23:15.540 --> 08:23:17.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Aquino of the Lone District asr-007213 08:23:17.540 --> 08:23:19.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of Butuan to sponsor asr-007214 08:23:19.540 --> 08:23:21.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: the proposed budget. asr-007215 08:23:21.540 --> 08:23:23.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentleman from the Lone District asr-007216 08:23:23.540 --> 08:23:25.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of Butuan, Vice Chair Joboy asr-007217 08:23:25.540 --> 08:23:27.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Aquino. Sir, asr-007218 08:23:27.540 --> 08:23:29.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: you have the floor. asr-007219 08:23:29.540 --> 08:23:31.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-007220 08:23:31.540 --> 08:23:33.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Mr. Speaker, distinguished asr-007221 08:23:33.540 --> 08:23:35.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: colleagues, I rise asr-007222 08:23:35.540 --> 08:23:37.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to sponsor the proposed fiscal asr-007223 08:23:37.540 --> 08:23:39.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: year 2027 asr-007224 08:23:39.540 --> 08:23:41.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: budget asr-007225 08:23:41.540 --> 08:23:43.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of the Office of the Presidential asr-007226 08:23:43.540 --> 08:23:45.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Advisor on Peace, asr-007227 08:23:45.540 --> 08:23:47.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Reconciliation, and asr-007228 08:23:47.540 --> 08:23:49.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Unity, amounting asr-007229 08:23:49.540 --> 08:23:51.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to 9.3 billion. asr-007230 08:23:51.540 --> 08:23:53.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The OPAPRU asr-007231 08:23:53.540 --> 08:23:55.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as the government's lead agency asr-007232 08:23:55.540 --> 08:23:57.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the coordination and asr-007233 08:23:57.540 --> 08:23:59.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: implementation of the asr-007234 08:23:59.540 --> 08:24:01.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: comprehensive peace process. asr-007235 08:24:01.540 --> 08:24:03.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It plays a asr-007236 08:24:03.540 --> 08:24:05.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: vital role in advancing asr-007237 08:24:05.540 --> 08:24:07.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the government's peace asr-007238 08:24:07.540 --> 08:24:09.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: agenda by facilitating asr-007239 08:24:09.540 --> 08:24:11.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the implementation of asr-007240 08:24:11.540 --> 08:24:13.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace agreements, asr-007241 08:24:13.540 --> 08:24:15.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace agenda by facilitating asr-007242 08:24:15.540 --> 08:24:17.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: implementation of government's asr-007243 08:24:17.540 --> 08:24:19.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: agreements, asr-007244 08:24:19.540 --> 08:24:21.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: supporting normalization asr-007245 08:24:21.540 --> 08:24:23.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and reconciliation asr-007246 08:24:23.540 --> 08:24:25.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: initiatives, and coordinating asr-007247 08:24:25.540 --> 08:24:27.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: development interventions asr-007248 08:24:27.540 --> 08:24:29.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in conflict of asr-007249 08:24:29.540 --> 08:24:31.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: affected and conflict asr-007250 08:24:31.540 --> 08:24:33.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: vulnerable communities. asr-007251 08:24:33.540 --> 08:24:35.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Its mandate asr-007252 08:24:35.540 --> 08:24:37.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is particularly asr-007253 08:24:37.540 --> 08:24:39.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: significant in sustaining asr-007254 08:24:39.540 --> 08:24:41.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the gains of the peace asr-007255 08:24:41.540 --> 08:24:43.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: process with various asr-007256 08:24:43.540 --> 08:24:45.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: stakeholders and translating asr-007257 08:24:45.540 --> 08:24:47.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace agreements into asr-007258 08:24:47.540 --> 08:24:49.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: concrete programs asr-007259 08:24:49.540 --> 08:24:51.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that improve the lives asr-007260 08:24:51.540 --> 08:24:53.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and prospects of the asr-007261 08:24:53.540 --> 08:24:55.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: communities that have asr-007262 08:24:55.540 --> 08:24:57.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: experienced asr-007263 08:24:57.540 --> 08:24:59.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: conflict. asr-007264 08:24:59.540 --> 08:25:01.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: As we deliberate on the asr-007265 08:25:01.540 --> 08:25:03.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: fiscal year 2027 budget asr-007266 08:25:03.540 --> 08:25:05.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of the OPAPRU, we asr-007267 08:25:05.540 --> 08:25:07.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: recognize that sustaining asr-007268 08:25:07.540 --> 08:25:09.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace requires more asr-007269 08:25:09.540 --> 08:25:11.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: than conclusion agreements. asr-007270 08:25:11.540 --> 08:25:13.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It requires asr-007271 08:25:13.540 --> 08:25:15.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: consistent implementation, asr-007272 08:25:15.540 --> 08:25:17.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: meaningful asr-007273 08:25:17.540 --> 08:25:19.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: community engagement, asr-007274 08:25:19.540 --> 08:25:21.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and investment that asr-007275 08:25:21.540 --> 08:25:23.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: address the socio-economic asr-007276 08:25:23.540 --> 08:25:25.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: conditions that asr-007277 08:25:25.540 --> 08:25:27.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: underpin lasting asr-007278 08:25:27.540 --> 08:25:29.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace. asr-007279 08:25:29.540 --> 08:25:31.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The proposed budget must asr-007280 08:25:31.540 --> 08:25:33.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: therefore support the effective asr-007281 08:25:33.540 --> 08:25:35.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: implementation of peace and asr-007282 08:25:35.540 --> 08:25:37.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: normalization programs asr-007283 08:25:37.540 --> 08:25:39.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: including development, asr-007284 08:25:39.540 --> 08:25:41.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: interventions asr-007285 08:25:41.540 --> 08:25:43.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in conflict asr-007286 08:25:43.540 --> 08:25:45.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: affected areas asr-007287 08:25:45.540 --> 08:25:47.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: while ensuring asr-007288 08:25:47.540 --> 08:25:49.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: transparency, asr-007289 08:25:49.540 --> 08:25:51.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: accountability, and asr-007290 08:25:51.540 --> 08:25:53.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: measurable results asr-007291 08:25:53.540 --> 08:25:55.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the spirit of a asr-007292 08:25:55.540 --> 08:25:57.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: people-centered and asr-007293 08:25:57.540 --> 08:25:59.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: inclusive asr-007294 08:25:59.540 --> 08:26:01.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: national budget. asr-007295 08:26:01.540 --> 08:26:03.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I respectfully asr-007296 08:26:03.540 --> 08:26:05.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: present asr-007297 08:26:05.540 --> 08:26:07.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the proposed fiscal year asr-007298 08:26:07.540 --> 08:26:09.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 2027 budget asr-007299 08:26:09.540 --> 08:26:11.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of the OPAPRU asr-007300 08:26:11.540 --> 08:26:13.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the consideration asr-007301 08:26:13.540 --> 08:26:15.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of this honorable chamber. asr-007302 08:26:15.540 --> 08:26:17.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-007303 08:26:17.540 --> 08:26:19.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This representation asr-007304 08:26:19.540 --> 08:26:21.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is now ready to answer asr-007305 08:26:21.540 --> 08:26:23.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: questions from our colleagues. asr-007306 08:26:23.540 --> 08:26:25.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Salamat, Congressman asr-007307 08:26:25.540 --> 08:26:27.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Joboy Aquino, Majority Leader. asr-007308 08:26:27.540 --> 08:26:29.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mr. Speaker, asr-007309 08:26:29.540 --> 08:26:31.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: to start the interpellation asr-007310 08:26:31.540 --> 08:26:33.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the proposed budget, asr-007311 08:26:33.540 --> 08:26:35.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: I move to recognize asr-007312 08:26:35.540 --> 08:26:37.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Representative Elijah R. asr-007313 08:26:37.540 --> 08:26:39.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: San Fernando of the asr-007314 08:26:39.540 --> 08:26:41.540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Kamangagawa Party List. asr-007315 08:26:43.540 --> 08:26:45.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Representative from the Kamangagawa asr-007316 08:26:45.540 --> 08:26:47.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Party List, asr-007317 08:26:47.540 --> 08:26:49.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Honorable Elijah San Fernando, asr-007318 08:26:49.540 --> 08:26:51.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Sir, you are recognized asr-007319 08:26:51.540 --> 08:26:53.540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: to interpellate the sponsor. asr-007320 08:26:53.540 --> 08:26:55.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Salamat po, Mr. Speaker, at sa ating butihing asr-007321 08:26:55.540 --> 08:26:57.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sponsor. Una, asr-007322 08:26:57.540 --> 08:26:59.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ikinatutuwa po ng asr-007323 08:26:59.540 --> 08:27:01.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kinatawang ito at ng mga asr-007324 08:27:01.540 --> 08:27:03.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: peace advocates na sa wakas asr-007325 08:27:03.540 --> 08:27:05.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay meron na po tayong bagong asr-007326 08:27:05.540 --> 08:27:07.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: presidential advisor on peace asr-007327 08:27:07.540 --> 08:27:09.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: reconciliation and unity asr-007328 08:27:09.540 --> 08:27:11.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa katauhan po ni Sekretary asr-007329 08:27:11.540 --> 08:27:13.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mel Sarmiento. At ngayong araw po ay asr-007330 08:27:13.540 --> 08:27:15.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ginugunitan natin ang asr-007331 08:27:15.540 --> 08:27:17.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pandaigdigang araw ng kapayapaan, asr-007332 08:27:17.540 --> 08:27:19.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: International Day of Peace. asr-007333 08:27:19.540 --> 08:27:21.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Meron lang po ilang mga katanungan asr-007334 08:27:21.540 --> 08:27:23.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hinggil po sa budget asr-007335 08:27:23.540 --> 08:27:25.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng OPAPRO. asr-007336 08:27:25.540 --> 08:27:27.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, asr-007337 08:27:27.540 --> 08:27:29.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, nangihingi asr-007338 08:27:29.540 --> 08:27:31.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng dagdag asr-007339 08:27:31.540 --> 08:27:33.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 1.171 asr-007340 08:27:33.540 --> 08:27:35.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: billion pesos o asr-007341 08:27:35.540 --> 08:27:37.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 14.4% asr-007342 08:27:37.540 --> 08:27:39.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: increase asr-007343 08:27:39.540 --> 08:27:41.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa budget ang OPAPRO. asr-007344 08:27:41.540 --> 08:27:43.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero sa asr-007345 08:27:43.540 --> 08:27:45.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: performance indicators, asr-007346 08:27:45.540 --> 08:27:47.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nananatiling asr-007347 08:27:47.540 --> 08:27:49.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: parehas ang asr-007348 08:27:49.540 --> 08:27:51.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ilang targets. asr-007349 08:27:51.540 --> 08:27:53.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Alimbawa po, asr-007350 08:27:53.540 --> 08:27:55.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa Annex on Normalization, asr-007351 08:27:55.540 --> 08:27:57.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 20%, asr-007352 08:27:57.540 --> 08:27:59.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for the next year, 20%. asr-007353 08:27:59.540 --> 08:28:01.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: For the current year. asr-007354 08:28:01.540 --> 08:28:03.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos sa final peace agreements, asr-007355 08:28:03.540 --> 08:28:05.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 70%. Parehas din po ito. asr-007356 08:28:07.540 --> 08:28:09.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano po exactly ang pinupondohan asr-007357 08:28:09.540 --> 08:28:11.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: natin? asr-007358 08:28:11.540 --> 08:28:13.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Bakit pataas ang asr-007359 08:28:13.540 --> 08:28:15.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: requested budget asr-007360 08:28:15.540 --> 08:28:17.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pero walang significant asr-007361 08:28:17.540 --> 08:28:19.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: improvement sa outcomes, asr-007362 08:28:19.540 --> 08:28:21.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor? asr-007374 08:28:57.540 --> 08:28:59.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, distinguished colleague. asr-007375 08:29:02.380 --> 08:29:03.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Well, way back asr-007376 08:29:03.480 --> 08:29:04.500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in 2025, asr-007377 08:29:06.500 --> 08:29:07.420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: well, asr-007378 08:29:07.520 --> 08:29:09.160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: it's true that there was a asr-007379 08:29:09.160 --> 08:29:10.340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: backlog. asr-007380 08:29:12.140 --> 08:29:12.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yeah? asr-007381 08:29:13.200 --> 08:29:15.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And it was because, I think, asr-007382 08:29:15.700 --> 08:29:17.560 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: one of the factors was asr-007383 08:29:17.560 --> 08:29:19.420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the BARM election. asr-007384 08:29:20.200 --> 08:29:21.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Now that the BARM asr-007385 08:29:21.540 --> 08:29:22.620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: election is ready, asr-007386 08:29:23.620 --> 08:29:25.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: already, or finished, asr-007387 08:29:25.460 --> 08:29:26.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: or materialized, asr-007388 08:29:26.280 --> 08:29:28.620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: come 2026, asr-007389 08:29:28.820 --> 08:29:29.740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: there's already a asr-007390 08:29:29.740 --> 08:29:31.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: increase in target. asr-007391 08:29:32.500 --> 08:29:34.140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It's like asr-007392 08:29:34.140 --> 08:29:36.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 67% asr-007393 08:29:36.980 --> 08:29:37.340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with asr-007394 08:29:37.340 --> 08:29:38.740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: MALF. asr-007395 08:29:39.800 --> 08:29:41.900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And with MLF, asr-007396 08:29:42.180 --> 08:29:43.860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the MNLF asr-007397 08:29:43.860 --> 08:29:46.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is going to be 70%. asr-007398 08:29:47.120 --> 08:29:48.160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So, August asr-007399 08:29:48.160 --> 08:29:49.760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 31, 2026, asr-007400 08:29:50.280 --> 08:29:52.100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with RPA, it's asr-007401 08:29:52.100 --> 08:29:53.500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 84%. asr-007402 08:29:53.500 --> 08:29:55.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And with CPL, asr-007403 08:29:55.480 --> 08:29:55.800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: a asr-007404 08:29:55.800 --> 08:29:56.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 90% asr-007405 08:29:56.280 --> 08:29:57.420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 91%. asr-007406 08:29:57.420 --> 08:30:00.160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Overall, asr-007407 08:30:00.160 --> 08:30:00.718 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: OPAPRU asr-007409 08:30:00.718 --> 08:30:09.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: has already achieved 71.4% of its peace agreement commitment with the following breakdown. asr-007410 08:30:10.440 --> 08:30:15.860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Program 1, GPH-MILF peace process, 67%. asr-007411 08:30:15.860 --> 08:30:20.980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Program 2, GPH-MNLF peace process, 43%. asr-007412 08:30:20.980 --> 08:30:27.820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Program 4, GPH-CBA-CPLA peace process, 91%. asr-007413 08:30:27.820 --> 08:30:37.840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Program 4, GPH-RPM-PRPA-ABB peace process, 84.6%. asr-007414 08:30:37.840 --> 08:30:43.200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Babalikan po natin yan, Mr. Sponsor, yung katanungan dyan. asr-007415 08:30:44.220 --> 08:30:51.700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Dito po sa National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security. asr-007416 08:30:52.420 --> 08:30:57.660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Noong 2025, ang target po ng OPAPRO ay, asr-007417 08:30:57.820 --> 08:31:04.580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 600 WPS beneficiaries and 20 localized implementation. asr-007418 08:31:05.640 --> 08:31:10.000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos sa output, lumalabas po 3,227. asr-007419 08:31:10.000 --> 08:31:12.940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And out of the 600 target na beneficiaries, asr-007420 08:31:13.720 --> 08:31:20.140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang output ay 3,227 beneficiaries and 43 localized implementation. asr-007421 08:31:20.400 --> 08:31:23.980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Out of the target of 20 na localized implementation. asr-007422 08:31:24.260 --> 08:31:26.600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ngayon, for 2027, asr-007423 08:31:26.600 --> 08:31:33.180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang target po ng OPAPRO ay 650 and 20 respectively. asr-007424 08:31:33.860 --> 08:31:36.300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So this is kind of weird, Mr. Sponsor, asr-007425 08:31:36.780 --> 08:31:42.600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasi bakit po yung target ngayon for fiscal year 2027 asr-007426 08:31:42.600 --> 08:31:47.160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay mas mababa compared to the actual accomplishment. asr-007427 08:31:48.100 --> 08:31:50.220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The question, Mr. Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, asr-007428 08:31:51.220 --> 08:31:56.260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ano po ba yung sa universe po ng targets ng OPAPRO? asr-007429 08:31:56.600 --> 08:31:58.600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano ba talaga yung tinatarget? asr-007430 08:31:59.280 --> 08:32:02.820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Particularly on National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security. asr-007431 08:32:03.460 --> 08:32:05.700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi kung titignan natin, Mr. Sponsor, asr-007432 08:32:06.680 --> 08:32:12.720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 2025, target, 600 beneficiaries, lagpas-lagpas. asr-007433 08:32:13.460 --> 08:32:16.640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And then come 2027, nire-request ngayon ng OPAPRO, asr-007434 08:32:17.280 --> 08:32:19.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 600 yung target. asr-007435 08:32:19.520 --> 08:32:23.880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So in the universe of targets, ano ba yung target na pinag-uusapan natin, Mr. Sponsor? asr-007436 08:32:24.480 --> 08:32:25.160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes. asr-007437 08:32:26.600 --> 08:32:31.780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Honorable Colleague, if I may please explain first, asr-007438 08:32:32.400 --> 08:32:41.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: just like to explain about this National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security asr-007439 08:32:41.280 --> 08:32:48.840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and its localization is 2023 to 2033. asr-007440 08:32:48.840 --> 08:32:55.780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It's being localized through trainings, civil society collaboration, and integration, asr-007441 08:32:56.600 --> 08:33:05.600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of women's peace and security into plans, budgets, and leadership programs. asr-007442 08:33:06.280 --> 08:33:15.360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Women's participation expanding in recovery, psychosocial services, and reintegration, asr-007443 08:33:15.360 --> 08:33:24.720 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: while academic and local partners strengthen leadership capacity through joint action asr-007444 08:33:24.720 --> 08:33:26.360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with other and other. asr-007445 08:33:26.600 --> 08:33:35.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And as CWPS members, member agencies, such as DOH, DSWD, and TESDA. asr-007446 08:33:36.280 --> 08:33:48.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Persistent gaps include limited data, uneven policy support, and weak integration across programs. asr-007447 08:33:48.460 --> 08:33:55.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Recognizing this, National NAPWPS Dashboard, asr-007448 08:33:56.600 --> 08:34:05.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: was developed with the DICT, which is set to be public by the end of 2026. asr-007449 08:34:05.280 --> 08:34:11.140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Localization and capacity development for LGUs are underway asr-007450 08:34:11.140 --> 08:34:14.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in 18 provinces nationwide, asr-007451 08:34:14.960 --> 08:34:19.720 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with varying status of development. asr-007452 08:34:20.620 --> 08:34:23.340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Protection and mainstreaming efforts asr-007453 08:34:23.360 --> 08:34:28.160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: provide vulnerable women and girls with social support, asr-007454 08:34:28.160 --> 08:34:34.360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: education, health services and inclusion in policy frameworks. asr-007455 08:34:34.360 --> 08:34:56.780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Advocacy platforms like CHEDS, SGPCWs, Tinig ng Kababaihan, and Consultation Amplify, WPS Perspectives, Resource Constraints, Institutional Resistance, and Weak Accountability asr-007456 08:34:56.780 --> 08:35:03.920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: We highlight the need for sustained investment and strong buy-in. asr-007457 08:35:04.320 --> 08:35:18.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, to save time, makikihingi na lang po ang kinatawang ito ng yung targets po, yung binabanggit niyo po kanina, on National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security. asr-007458 08:35:18.620 --> 08:35:23.920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: If this can be furnished to my office para po makita natin, would that be okay to the OPA Pro? asr-007459 08:35:24.920 --> 08:35:26.460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, of course. asr-007460 08:35:26.780 --> 08:35:30.500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sponsor. asr-007461 08:35:30.700 --> 08:35:31.100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you. asr-007462 08:35:31.100 --> 08:35:43.980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Balikan ko po yung punto ko kanina doon sa hinihinging budget at doon sa outcome indicators, performance indicators ng OPA Pro. asr-007463 08:35:44.460 --> 08:35:47.580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Doon sa normalization track kasi merong mga major component yan. asr-007464 08:35:48.520 --> 08:35:56.600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Security, socioeconomic development, confidence building, transitional justice, and reconciliation. asr-007465 08:35:56.780 --> 08:36:11.740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya po yung tanong ko kanina, humihingi o nagre-request ang OPA Pro ng mas mataas na budget, but the targets remain the same. asr-007466 08:36:12.940 --> 08:36:23.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, bakit nagre-request ng mas papalaking budget ang OPA Pro pero yung targets ay hindi gumagalaw? asr-007467 08:36:23.060 --> 08:36:26.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, if we're going to take a look into the... asr-007468 08:36:26.780 --> 08:36:31.260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Outcome indicators, almost the same since 2022. asr-007469 08:36:31.800 --> 08:36:46.760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 16% 2022, 20% 2024, 20% 2025, 20% ulit 2026, and you are targeting 20% for 2027. asr-007470 08:36:47.500 --> 08:36:54.500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: This representation would like to be clarified on the matter, ano ba itong 20% na pinag-uusapan natin? asr-007471 08:36:54.960 --> 08:36:56.320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 20% of what? asr-007472 08:36:56.780 --> 08:37:00.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Again, the normalization track has major components. asr-007473 08:37:00.680 --> 08:37:03.840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 20% of what ang kinukomplete natin dito? asr-007474 08:37:04.000 --> 08:37:07.800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And the following question to that, why is it only 20%? asr-007475 08:37:09.040 --> 08:37:16.560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In the general targets, but 20%, iplinakda ng 20% since the previous years, Mr. Sponsor. asr-007476 08:37:16.560 --> 08:37:25.660 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, Honorable Distinguished Colleague, there is a catch-up plan for the MIL. asr-007477 08:37:25.660 --> 08:37:25.980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 20,000. asr-007478 08:37:26.780 --> 08:37:37.980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: There are 40,000 MILF combatants, and 26,000. asr-007479 08:37:39.640 --> 08:37:47.680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: There are right now 26,145 existing, and we have 40,000 more combatants. asr-007480 08:37:48.200 --> 08:37:52.520 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And there is a catch-up plan that will be implemented. asr-007481 08:37:52.520 --> 08:37:55.900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, ito po sa combatants po ito, no? asr-007482 08:37:56.080 --> 08:37:56.520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: For the final... asr-007483 08:37:56.780 --> 08:37:59.300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Phase noong decommissioning. asr-007484 08:37:59.480 --> 08:38:00.980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sa socio-economic plan nito. asr-007485 08:38:01.240 --> 08:38:02.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, decommissioning. asr-007486 08:38:02.580 --> 08:38:07.140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya nga po, ang tanong ko, doon sa 20%, kasi maraming components yan eh. asr-007487 08:38:08.060 --> 08:38:09.580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano ba yung tina-target ng OPA-PRO? asr-007488 08:38:10.420 --> 08:38:10.880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Doon sa 20%? asr-007489 08:38:10.880 --> 08:38:11.640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Socio-economic. asr-007490 08:38:12.000 --> 08:38:12.680 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Socio-economic? asr-007491 08:38:12.940 --> 08:38:13.200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes. asr-007492 08:38:13.500 --> 08:38:18.200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, on the socio-economic provisions, doon sa normalization track, 20%. asr-007493 08:38:18.720 --> 08:38:24.220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: What about yung other targets po, other components ng Annex of Normalization? asr-007494 08:38:25.500 --> 08:38:26.440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano po ang target nito? asr-007495 08:38:26.780 --> 08:38:28.240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Very general po nakalagay. asr-007496 08:38:29.040 --> 08:38:32.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, 20% across all components po ba ito? asr-007497 08:38:33.200 --> 08:38:42.760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang pinakamalaki, kula, colleague, ay ang security, socio-economic, and my partner na security. asr-007498 08:38:42.760 --> 08:38:42.840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Security. asr-007499 08:38:44.840 --> 08:38:49.180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, nasa socio-economic and security component of the normalization. asr-007500 08:38:50.460 --> 08:38:56.620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, pwede po bang may we request from the OPA-PRO to... asr-007501 08:38:56.620 --> 08:39:00.340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ano pa yung transitional justice? asr-007502 08:39:01.100 --> 08:39:02.660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, part din yung transitional justice. asr-007503 08:39:02.660 --> 08:39:14.800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, to save time, kasi hindi po malinaw yung sagot ng OPA-PRO as to the major components of the normalization track. asr-007504 08:39:15.320 --> 08:39:20.660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, makikihingi na lang po ng data, ang kinatawang ito, yung breakdown. asr-007505 08:39:21.060 --> 08:39:26.340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: How much is allocated for security, for transitional justice, reconciliation? asr-007506 08:39:26.620 --> 08:39:32.500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi doon po sa performance indicators ng OPA-PRO, malabo eh. General as 20%. asr-007507 08:39:32.500 --> 08:39:40.400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And in line po sa binanggit nyo kanina, Mr. Sponsor, binanggit nyo yung doon sa decommissioning of MILF combatants. asr-007508 08:39:41.160 --> 08:39:51.880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That is true, no? Nasa fourth and final phase, ang decommissioning involving 14,000 combatants and around 2,450 weapons. asr-007509 08:39:51.880 --> 08:39:56.600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: But the latest update to this, and the OPA-PRO would like to clarify, asr-007510 08:39:56.620 --> 08:40:03.440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: clarify this matter, itinigil ito eh. Tama po ba? Itinigil itong fourth phase, Mr. Sponsor? asr-007511 08:40:03.540 --> 08:40:12.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Actually, 26,145 existing and there is a balance of 14,000. Makes it 40,000. asr-007512 08:40:12.680 --> 08:40:16.580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tama, Mr. Sponsor. Nakapag-decommission na ng 26,000. asr-007513 08:40:16.880 --> 08:40:20.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes. 26,145. asr-007514 08:40:20.460 --> 08:40:23.100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes. May remaining pa na 14,000. asr-007515 08:40:23.420 --> 08:40:23.700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes. asr-007516 08:40:23.700 --> 08:40:26.580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ngayon, kaya po natigil itong decommissioning. asr-007517 08:40:26.620 --> 08:40:34.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya po natigil itong decommissioning of 14,000 MILF combatants kasi may pronouncement ang MILF. asr-007518 08:40:34.500 --> 08:40:37.700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, this has been issued by the Central Committee of MILF. asr-007519 08:40:38.480 --> 08:40:50.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, last budget deliberation, Mr. Sponsor, tinigil ito mismo ng MILF dahil hindi nila nakikitaan ng kaseryosuhan asr-007520 08:40:50.060 --> 08:40:56.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung Government of the Republic of the Philippines in finishing or delivering other components asr-007521 08:40:56.620 --> 08:40:58.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of the normalization track. asr-007522 08:40:58.620 --> 08:41:02.620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The question to the OPA-PRO is, what is the current status? asr-007523 08:41:03.200 --> 08:41:13.520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi, Mr. Sponsor, nung nakaraang budget deliberation, the MILF has already declared they are losing trust in the peace process asr-007524 08:41:13.520 --> 08:41:16.300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: because of the predecessor of the good secretary. asr-007525 08:41:16.300 --> 08:41:26.280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, they have said in many, in many, in numerous news clippings that the predecessor of the good secretary is a saboteur of peace. asr-007526 08:41:26.620 --> 08:41:38.140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That is why, it is in their position, being the party to the peace negotiation, to stop the decommissioning of 14,000 combatants. asr-007527 08:41:38.140 --> 08:41:43.800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The question is, Mr. Sponsor, ano na po yung status ng pag-uusap? asr-007528 08:41:44.340 --> 08:41:51.580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi kailangan uli ma-build yung confidence eh na makipag-usap yung other party doon sa table. asr-007529 08:41:52.520 --> 08:41:56.220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And sadly, Mr. Sponsor, and to the good secretary, asr-007530 08:41:56.620 --> 08:42:05.100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sadly, the predecessor of the current secretary has not addressed these grave issues and concerns asr-007531 08:42:05.100 --> 08:42:07.960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: as raised by the Moro Islamic Liberation Front. asr-007532 08:42:08.400 --> 08:42:14.340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, what is the status of this decommissioning, the fourth and final phase of decommissioning? asr-007533 08:42:16.340 --> 08:42:25.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, distinguished colleague, the GPH is targeting to commence phase four decommissioning in 2028. asr-007534 08:42:26.140 --> 08:42:26.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: However, asr-007535 08:42:26.620 --> 08:42:39.620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the decommissioning is a joint GPH-MILF undertaking and is for further discussion and agreement between the GPH-MILF implementing panels. asr-007536 08:42:40.800 --> 08:42:42.120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So, may 2028 po, no? asr-007537 08:42:42.860 --> 08:42:45.040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 2028, tama po ba, Mr. Sponsor? asr-007538 08:42:45.900 --> 08:42:48.380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: From September 25, no? asr-007539 08:42:48.380 --> 08:42:56.380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: There will be a KL meeting to consider resumption of the decommissioning. asr-007540 08:42:56.620 --> 08:43:07.440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, may, it, that's the OPAP rule confirmed through the sponsor na meron ng positive development on the matter? asr-007541 08:43:07.920 --> 08:43:13.620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: One of the things to be discussed in Kuala Lumpur is the date for the decommissioning. asr-007542 08:43:26.620 --> 08:43:34.620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So, also, for the information of our distinguished colleague, the OPAP head by our secretary, asr-007543 08:43:36.620 --> 08:43:44.100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as chair of the panel of the government, headed by our secretary, Mel Sarmento, asr-007544 08:43:44.380 --> 08:43:51.500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: had a very good, productive meeting with Chairman Murad in Darapanan. asr-007545 08:43:51.500 --> 08:43:55.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That is a very welcome development, Mr. Sponsor. asr-007546 08:43:55.920 --> 08:43:56.460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hearing that. asr-007547 08:43:56.620 --> 08:44:03.780 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: There is already a positive development regarding the peace negotiation between the GRP and the MILF. asr-007548 08:44:04.540 --> 08:44:13.280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Actually, ito po yung inaantay natin na sagot dahil hindi po ito in-address ng predecessor ng butihing sekretary ngayon. asr-007549 08:44:13.280 --> 08:44:22.440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And in fact, if I can remember correctly, the predecessor of the good secretary has requested for an executive session. asr-007550 08:44:22.960 --> 08:44:25.980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And yet, wala pong nangyari doon sa executive session. asr-007551 08:44:25.980 --> 08:44:38.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, maganda pong balita na binabalita po ng OPAPRU na merong productive meeting between GRP and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front through its chair, Chair Alhaj Murad. asr-007552 08:44:38.600 --> 08:44:52.440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Makikihingi na lang po ng datos sa OPAPRU through the sponsor regarding po dito sa timetable sa pagkumpleto ng normalization and reaching the exit agreement, asr-007553 08:44:52.440 --> 08:44:55.800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: if that document is available. asr-007554 08:44:55.980 --> 08:44:56.860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor. asr-007555 08:44:57.740 --> 08:44:58.940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, there is. asr-007556 08:44:59.740 --> 08:45:00.800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished colleague. asr-007557 08:45:01.260 --> 08:45:02.600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: By the way, asr-007558 08:45:02.600 --> 08:45:07.180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: OPA-PRO is also chair of the government panel. asr-007559 08:45:08.160 --> 08:45:09.620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, yes, Mr. Sponsor. asr-007560 08:45:09.800 --> 08:45:15.160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: There are two positions of our good Secretary Sarmiento. asr-007561 08:45:15.620 --> 08:45:18.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you, thank you, Mr. Sponsor. asr-007562 08:45:18.860 --> 08:45:22.760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Now, yung mga hinihingi na lang po na dokumento, Mr. Sponsor. asr-007563 08:45:22.760 --> 08:45:25.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, rest assured, that was... asr-007564 08:45:25.080 --> 08:45:28.760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Moving on, dito po sa... asr-007565 08:45:29.340 --> 08:45:32.840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Well, last year, naging malaking issue ko po ito sa OPA-PRO asr-007566 08:45:32.840 --> 08:45:37.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and it wasn't really answered by the previous Secretary. asr-007567 08:45:37.760 --> 08:45:40.640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In the PDP 2024 Midterm Update, asr-007568 08:45:41.780 --> 08:45:44.140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the progress report, take note, this was the progress report. asr-007569 08:45:44.780 --> 08:45:47.880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: One of the performance indicators asr-007570 08:45:47.880 --> 08:45:52.960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is to complete the implementation of all signed agreements. asr-007571 08:45:53.540 --> 08:45:55.000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Take note, Mr. Sponsor. asr-007572 08:45:55.080 --> 08:45:58.640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That in 2024 Midterm Update of OPA-PRO, asr-007573 08:45:59.140 --> 08:46:02.300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: it was indicated here, green check, asr-007574 08:46:02.980 --> 08:46:07.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: meaning it is already fully implemented and institutionalized. asr-007575 08:46:08.460 --> 08:46:12.100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, kiniklaim ng OPA-PRO in 2024, asr-007576 08:46:12.940 --> 08:46:16.420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sabi nila, fully implemented and completed na itong part na to. asr-007577 08:46:16.620 --> 08:46:18.440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Now, Mr. Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, asr-007578 08:46:20.200 --> 08:46:23.160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in the 2025 PDP Midterm Update, asr-007579 08:46:23.380 --> 08:46:25.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: what was considered, asr-007580 08:46:25.080 --> 08:46:28.400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: as fully implemented in 2024 PDP, asr-007581 08:46:28.840 --> 08:46:30.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ngayon, naging dilaw na. asr-007582 08:46:31.260 --> 08:46:32.120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ibig sabihin, asr-007583 08:46:33.020 --> 08:46:35.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: partially implemented and institutionalized. asr-007584 08:46:36.300 --> 08:46:38.420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, ang tanong dito, Mr. Sponsor, asr-007585 08:46:39.640 --> 08:46:42.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: bakit yung progress report ng OPA-PRO paatras? asr-007586 08:46:45.940 --> 08:46:49.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, there was a mistake. asr-007587 08:46:50.220 --> 08:46:51.120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It's admitted asr-007588 08:46:51.120 --> 08:46:53.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that there was a mistake asr-007589 08:46:53.280 --> 08:46:54.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the... asr-007590 08:46:55.080 --> 08:46:56.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Color. asr-007591 08:46:56.080 --> 08:46:57.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Color. asr-007592 08:46:57.080 --> 08:46:59.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Instead of yellow, asr-007593 08:46:59.080 --> 08:47:01.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the face here, it's a... asr-007594 08:47:01.080 --> 08:47:02.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Previous. asr-007595 08:47:06.080 --> 08:47:07.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Previous. asr-007596 08:47:07.080 --> 08:47:09.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, it was a mistake po, Mr. Sponsor, no? asr-007597 08:47:09.080 --> 08:47:10.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sabi po ng OPA-PRO. asr-007598 08:47:10.080 --> 08:47:12.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, asr-007599 08:47:12.080 --> 08:47:14.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I am really sorry, Mr. Sponsor, asr-007600 08:47:14.080 --> 08:47:19.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pero iba po kasi yung sagot ng OPA-PRO last budget season eh. asr-007601 08:47:19.080 --> 08:47:22.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sabi po ng OPA-PRO last budget season, asr-007602 08:47:22.080 --> 08:47:24.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi naman yan, hindi naman yan yung actual report. asr-007603 08:47:24.080 --> 08:47:25.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi naman yan, hindi naman yan yung actual report. asr-007604 08:47:25.100 --> 08:47:26.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang target namin asr-007605 08:47:26.080 --> 08:47:28.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: was simply a target asr-007606 08:47:28.080 --> 08:47:29.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and to which I responded. asr-007607 08:47:29.080 --> 08:47:31.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: How can it be a target asr-007608 08:47:31.080 --> 08:47:32.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: when it is very clear asr-007609 08:47:32.080 --> 08:47:34.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in the PDP midterm report asr-007610 08:47:34.080 --> 08:47:36.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: it is actual progress report. asr-007611 08:47:36.080 --> 08:47:38.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So hindi po mag-wo-work asr-007612 08:47:38.080 --> 08:47:42.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung ganong binabanggit ng OPA-PRO. asr-007613 08:47:42.080 --> 08:47:43.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: It is not simply a target, asr-007614 08:47:43.080 --> 08:47:46.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: it is actually, asr-007615 08:47:46.080 --> 08:47:48.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung iida-digest natin asr-007616 08:47:48.080 --> 08:47:50.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dito sa PDP report, progress report asr-007617 08:47:50.080 --> 08:47:52.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: regression siya. asr-007618 08:47:52.080 --> 08:47:54.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, which is which? asr-007619 08:47:54.080 --> 08:48:13.800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Honorable Distinguished Colleague, ang naging totoo nito ay yung process. Institutionalize siya before the parties agreed. That's why institutionalize. asr-007620 08:48:13.800 --> 08:48:23.600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: In the PDP midterm update, what is the context of completed all the implementation of peace signed agreement? asr-007621 08:48:26.200 --> 08:48:35.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It doesn't present that the implementation of all signed peace agreements have already been completed. asr-007622 08:48:35.240 --> 08:48:41.600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: But referring to the status progress of the strategy complete, asr-007623 08:48:41.600 --> 08:48:52.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the implementation of all signed peace agreement has fully institutionalized, not fully implemented. asr-007624 08:48:53.280 --> 08:48:59.420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Fully institutionalized completion of the implementation of the signed peace agreement asr-007625 08:48:59.420 --> 08:49:08.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: means significant milestone or substantial progress have been achieved under the signed peace agreement asr-007626 08:49:08.400 --> 08:49:10.900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: such as passage. asr-007627 08:49:11.600 --> 08:49:17.760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Of the Bangsa Organic Law under the comprehensive agreement on the Bangsa Moro asr-007628 08:49:17.760 --> 08:49:25.560 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as just recently the successful conduct and completion of the first BARM elections. asr-007629 08:49:25.840 --> 08:49:28.420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, Mr. Sponsor. Just to save time po. asr-007630 08:49:31.140 --> 08:49:33.920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi ko po maunawaan yung justification. asr-007631 08:49:35.180 --> 08:49:39.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Naintindihan ko kung ito yung inabutan ng butihing sekretary, Mel Sarmiento. asr-007632 08:49:39.080 --> 08:49:41.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero the... asr-007633 08:49:41.600 --> 08:49:46.140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The justification being presented now by OPA Pro through the Sponsor asr-007634 08:49:46.140 --> 08:49:49.920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is not really acceptable because nagsisemantics po tayo eh. asr-007635 08:49:51.360 --> 08:49:56.040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The green bullet in the legend specifically say, asr-007636 08:49:57.360 --> 08:50:01.940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: fully implemented slash institutionalized. asr-007637 08:50:02.440 --> 08:50:06.260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, Mr. Sponsor, hindi po ito either or, Mr. Sponsor. asr-007638 08:50:06.260 --> 08:50:10.820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, hindi ko maintindihan, Mr. Sponsor, if the predecessor, asr-007639 08:50:11.600 --> 08:50:14.740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of the good sekretary, is really not telling the truth? asr-007640 08:50:21.740 --> 08:50:24.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Nakalagay dito, asr-007640-split-2 08:50:24.540 --> 08:50:24.940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yes po. asr-007641 08:50:25.520 --> 08:50:29.920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Partially implemented slash institutionalized. asr-007642 08:50:29.920 --> 08:50:30.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yan yung yellow. asr-007642-split-2 08:50:30.480 --> 08:50:31.100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tama po. asr-007643 08:50:31.220 --> 08:50:32.160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yeah, yeah. Yellow. asr-007644 08:50:53.860 --> 08:50:56.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes. asr-007673 08:51:10.600 --> 08:51:24.740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: If I'm correct, I heard my colleague saying that ito yung inabutan ng sekretary. That's why hindi siya maka-respond doon sa mangyari. asr-007674 08:51:24.740 --> 08:51:37.220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sponsor, and to the good sekretary. At least nagkaroon na po tayo ng kalinawan. Ang gusto ko lang po kasi i-correct, mahirap po na nagbabago-bago tayo ng report on PDP. asr-007675 08:51:37.220 --> 08:51:43.260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And it is a good development po na may ganong admission po from the good sekretary. asr-007676 08:51:43.620 --> 08:51:54.580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I'm moving on po, Mr. Sponsor. Dito naman po tayo sa PAMANA. Ang PAMANA po ay hindi lang simple yung General Development Fund. asr-007677 08:51:54.580 --> 08:52:06.300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: It is intended for conflict-affected and conflict-vulnerable areas. So it operates within the framework of peace process. asr-007678 08:52:07.220 --> 08:52:30.180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ngayon po, nangihingi ang OPAPRU ng 6.090 billion for PAMANA. For the interest of time po, can the OPAPRU through the sponsor describe papaano nag-ooperate yung nire-request na PAMANA dito po sa framework ng peace process? asr-007679 08:52:30.180 --> 08:52:36.100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Just to be very specific on this, at baka po makapagbigay ng example ang OPAPRU. asr-007680 08:52:37.220 --> 08:52:43.260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano bang magbigay? Random sampling na lang po tayo. Tatlong areas wherein merong PAMANA. asr-007681 08:52:44.600 --> 08:52:55.880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Saan ang region or area na may pinakamalaking allocation? Ano yung specific conflict driver? Bakit naglagay ng malaking pondo for PAMANA on that specific region? asr-007682 08:52:56.560 --> 08:53:04.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos ano yung existing or governing peace agreement? And then ano yung outcome na inaabot natin? asr-007683 08:53:04.340 --> 08:53:07.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So kasi again, ang punto dito, Mr. Sponsor. asr-007684 08:53:07.220 --> 08:53:18.160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, PAMANA is not just any general development fund. It is intended to address conflict vulnerabilities in many areas. asr-007685 08:53:18.520 --> 08:53:27.000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So pwede po bang pakidescribe ng OPAPRU papaano nag-ooperate yung PAMANA doon sa framework na binanggit ng representasyong ito? asr-007686 08:53:27.000 --> 08:53:37.000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, distinguished colleague. If I may read, the PAMANA program is anchored on the government strategy of winning the peace by 40%. asr-007687 08:53:37.220 --> 08:53:37.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you. asr-007688 08:53:38.080 --> 08:53:54.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Partnership in promoting convergent delivery of goods and services and addressing regional development challenges in conflict affected and conflict vulnerable areas. asr-007689 08:53:54.240 --> 08:54:06.180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It builds both physical and social infrastructures for these areas at the regional, provincial, and barangay levels, asr-007690 08:54:06.540 --> 08:54:07.200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ensuring that the peace agreement is notyttied to all boundaries. asr-007691 08:54:07.200 --> 08:54:08.760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that they are not left behind. asr-007692 08:54:09.320 --> 08:54:10.680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The design and delivery asr-007693 08:54:10.680 --> 08:54:12.760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of PAMANA program asr-007694 08:54:12.760 --> 08:54:15.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is conflict-sensitive asr-007695 08:54:15.300 --> 08:54:17.340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and peace-promoting, asr-007696 08:54:18.020 --> 08:54:19.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: thus distinguishing it asr-007697 08:54:19.400 --> 08:54:21.100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: from other development asr-007698 08:54:21.100 --> 08:54:23.380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: interventions of the asr-007699 08:54:23.380 --> 08:54:23.760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: government. asr-007700 08:54:25.660 --> 08:54:26.920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: If I may... asr-007701 08:54:26.920 --> 08:54:27.980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, Mr. Sponsor. asr-007702 08:54:28.000 --> 08:54:30.060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: If I may read the criteria and guidelines. asr-007703 08:54:31.300 --> 08:54:32.520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, asr-007704 08:54:33.280 --> 08:54:35.260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: magbigay na lang po tayo ng halimbawa asr-007705 08:54:35.260 --> 08:54:37.380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasi nga, latag na po asr-007706 08:54:37.380 --> 08:54:38.760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung framework eh ng PAMANA. asr-007707 08:54:39.680 --> 08:54:39.980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sige po. asr-007708 08:54:40.000 --> 08:54:41.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ito po, personal ko. asr-007709 08:54:41.300 --> 08:54:42.620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Hindi ko po sila tinung asr-007710 08:54:42.620 --> 08:54:43.700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: dahil nakita ko ito eh. asr-007711 08:54:44.280 --> 08:54:46.020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sa Caraga region, asr-007712 08:54:46.600 --> 08:54:48.920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ako eh, asr-007713 08:54:49.620 --> 08:54:51.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: if I may just give a little asr-007714 08:54:51.540 --> 08:54:52.100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: background, asr-007715 08:54:52.860 --> 08:54:54.620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: way back 15, asr-007716 08:54:54.820 --> 08:54:56.180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 10 to 15 years ago, asr-007717 08:54:56.840 --> 08:54:58.060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the whole of Mindanao, asr-007718 08:54:58.700 --> 08:55:00.520 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: it is in Caraga region asr-007719 08:55:00.520 --> 08:55:03.040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: identified as asr-007720 08:55:03.040 --> 08:55:03.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 72. asr-007721 08:55:03.880 --> 08:55:06.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Parang conflict asr-007722 08:55:06.220 --> 08:55:07.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ng CPP-NPA. asr-007723 08:55:09.400 --> 08:55:11.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 72 baranggays. asr-007724 08:55:12.560 --> 08:55:12.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And, asr-007725 08:55:12.920 --> 08:55:14.860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: nagkaroon po ako ng part asr-007726 08:55:14.860 --> 08:55:15.580 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: at that time. asr-007727 08:55:16.040 --> 08:55:17.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I was working then asr-007728 08:55:17.240 --> 08:55:19.840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as a presidential assistant asr-007729 08:55:19.840 --> 08:55:20.900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for Caraga region. asr-007730 08:55:21.340 --> 08:55:22.820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Almost the same po. asr-007731 08:55:23.200 --> 08:55:26.200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ngayon po, may mga projects na sila asr-007732 08:55:26.200 --> 08:55:28.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: sa alam ko, sa Agusan del Norte. asr-007733 08:55:30.100 --> 08:55:31.740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Di lang makasigurado. asr-007734 08:55:31.740 --> 08:55:33.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I just want to be sure. asr-007735 08:55:33.880 --> 08:55:35.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Mayroon sa Agusan. asr-007736 08:55:36.120 --> 08:55:36.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And, in fact, asr-007737 08:55:37.760 --> 08:55:39.000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: just two months ago, asr-007738 08:55:39.180 --> 08:55:42.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I went around 13 rural schools. asr-007739 08:55:43.140 --> 08:55:44.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And, doon, asr-007740 08:55:44.300 --> 08:55:46.320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: nahingian po ako ng water. asr-007741 08:55:47.060 --> 08:55:48.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Very important asr-007742 08:55:48.400 --> 08:55:49.720 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ang water supply. asr-007743 08:55:50.320 --> 08:55:51.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: That's why, siguro, asr-007744 08:55:52.240 --> 08:55:55.200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: mag-a-apply din ako asr-007745 08:55:55.200 --> 08:55:57.360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: para sa distrito ko. asr-007746 08:55:57.360 --> 08:55:57.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So, asr-007747 08:55:59.320 --> 08:56:03.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: PAMANA supports the completion asr-007748 08:56:03.400 --> 08:56:03.860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of PAMANA. asr-007749 08:56:03.880 --> 08:56:04.680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Disagreements. asr-007750 08:56:05.260 --> 08:56:07.380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Example, infrastructure projects asr-007751 08:56:07.380 --> 08:56:09.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in Cordillera, asr-007752 08:56:09.920 --> 08:56:11.360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: projects, asr-007753 08:56:11.980 --> 08:56:13.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: facilitates asr-007754 08:56:13.460 --> 08:56:15.320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: access to services asr-007755 08:56:15.320 --> 08:56:18.020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and enhances asr-007756 08:56:18.020 --> 08:56:19.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: connectivity. asr-007757 08:56:22.340 --> 08:56:23.840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, asr-007758 08:56:24.860 --> 08:56:25.880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pwede po bang makarequest asr-007759 08:56:26.400 --> 08:56:28.020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang kinatawang ito asr-007760 08:56:28.020 --> 08:56:29.720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng allocation asr-007761 08:56:29.720 --> 08:56:31.880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng PAMANA na naka-disaggregate asr-007762 08:56:31.880 --> 08:56:33.720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: per region? asr-007763 08:56:33.880 --> 08:56:36.120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And, what particular PAMANA projects asr-007764 08:56:36.120 --> 08:56:36.940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: are being allocated? asr-007765 08:56:37.120 --> 08:56:39.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Willing po ang office ng OPAPRO asr-007766 08:56:39.440 --> 08:56:40.840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: na mag-submit ng asr-007767 08:56:40.840 --> 08:56:44.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: specific po yan. asr-007768 08:56:44.520 --> 08:56:46.840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang punto ko kasi dito, asr-007769 08:56:47.400 --> 08:56:48.320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, asr-007770 08:56:49.260 --> 08:56:50.280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dito po sa PAMANA, asr-007771 08:56:50.480 --> 08:56:51.680 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi po ba ito asr-007772 08:56:51.680 --> 08:56:52.900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: duplication? asr-007773 08:56:53.480 --> 08:56:54.920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi, ang siste po, asr-007774 08:56:54.920 --> 08:56:56.120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang PAMANA ay asr-007775 08:56:56.120 --> 08:56:57.920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pass-through sa OPAPRO. asr-007776 08:56:58.560 --> 08:56:59.940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi po ba ito duplication? asr-007777 08:57:00.020 --> 08:57:02.580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Nalimbawa, may agricultural support asr-007778 08:57:02.580 --> 08:57:03.680 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for farmers. asr-007779 08:57:03.880 --> 08:57:04.520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Meron ng DA. asr-007780 08:57:05.680 --> 08:57:06.860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Merong ROADS. asr-007781 08:57:07.020 --> 08:57:08.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Actually, kalakhan po ng budget asr-007782 08:57:08.480 --> 08:57:10.100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa PAMANA, nasa ROADS. asr-007783 08:57:10.220 --> 08:57:10.960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Meron naman DP asr-007784 08:57:10.960 --> 08:57:13.000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: o meron po pwedeng ibang agencies. asr-007785 08:57:14.220 --> 08:57:16.040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, ano po yung rason asr-007786 08:57:16.040 --> 08:57:16.840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung bakit asr-007787 08:57:16.840 --> 08:57:19.400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagpa-pass-through pa sa PAMANA asr-007788 08:57:19.400 --> 08:57:20.980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at nagdu-duplicate? asr-007789 08:57:21.060 --> 08:57:21.700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Say, for example, asr-007790 08:57:22.300 --> 08:57:24.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: if the issue is asr-007791 08:57:24.060 --> 08:57:26.400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to provide educational assistance asr-007792 08:57:26.400 --> 08:57:29.280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in conflict-vulnerable areas asr-007793 08:57:29.280 --> 08:57:30.340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: or conflict areas, asr-007794 08:57:30.960 --> 08:57:33.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: we already have an agency asr-007795 08:57:33.060 --> 08:57:34.880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: which can directly asr-007796 08:57:34.880 --> 08:57:36.760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: address the problem. asr-007797 08:57:37.400 --> 08:57:39.380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, instead of putting it asr-007798 08:57:39.380 --> 08:57:40.700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: through PAMANA asr-007799 08:57:40.700 --> 08:57:43.140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and OPAPRO as a asr-007800 08:57:43.140 --> 08:57:44.240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pass-on agency, asr-007801 08:57:45.300 --> 08:57:46.300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: why do we need asr-007802 08:57:46.300 --> 08:57:47.420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: or what is the justification asr-007803 08:57:47.420 --> 08:57:49.440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for PAMANA? asr-007804 08:57:50.120 --> 08:57:50.800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor. asr-007805 08:57:52.000 --> 08:57:52.800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished asr-007806 08:57:52.800 --> 08:57:54.580 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: colleague, asr-007807 08:57:55.080 --> 08:57:57.000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: hindi po wala pong asr-007808 08:57:57.000 --> 08:57:57.860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ano, asr-007809 08:57:58.580 --> 08:57:59.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: yung pag-ano, asr-007810 08:58:00.140 --> 08:58:01.160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: yung pagpatong asr-007811 08:58:01.160 --> 08:58:02.820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: or duplication nga. asr-007812 08:58:03.060 --> 08:58:05.380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: From the endorsement, asr-007813 08:58:05.740 --> 08:58:07.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: there are areas, asr-007814 08:58:07.380 --> 08:58:08.580 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: well, almost all, asr-007815 08:58:08.860 --> 08:58:10.040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: nagkakaroon ng MOA, asr-007816 08:58:10.840 --> 08:58:12.380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: sometimes with the LGU. asr-007817 08:58:13.220 --> 08:58:14.120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Siyempre, yung LGU, asr-007818 08:58:14.200 --> 08:58:16.060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: pag nakita na meron, asr-007819 08:58:16.440 --> 08:58:17.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: hindi na rin pwede. asr-007820 08:58:18.680 --> 08:58:19.040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And, asr-007821 08:58:21.880 --> 08:58:23.600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the validation of projects asr-007822 08:58:23.600 --> 08:58:25.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: by the PAMANA asr-007823 08:58:25.080 --> 08:58:27.180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and NPMO asr-007824 08:58:27.180 --> 08:58:28.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ensure no duplication asr-007825 08:58:28.960 --> 08:58:30.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the targets, asr-007826 08:58:30.300 --> 08:58:32.500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: specifically the projects asr-007827 08:58:32.500 --> 08:58:34.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and project location indoors. asr-007828 08:58:34.980 --> 08:58:35.760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The OPAPRO asr-007829 08:58:35.760 --> 08:58:37.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: closely coordinates asr-007830 08:58:37.880 --> 08:58:39.600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with concerned agencies asr-007831 08:58:39.600 --> 08:58:41.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and or offices asr-007832 08:58:41.400 --> 08:58:43.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: during site validation. asr-007833 08:58:44.400 --> 08:58:46.380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Also, one of the key considerations asr-007834 08:58:46.380 --> 08:58:48.680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the enlistment of projects asr-007835 08:58:48.680 --> 08:58:51.340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: include the uncertainty asr-007836 08:58:51.340 --> 08:58:53.340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that is no funding asr-007837 08:58:53.340 --> 08:58:55.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: from other offices asr-007838 08:58:55.400 --> 08:58:56.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: units. asr-007839 08:58:57.560 --> 08:58:59.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Further safeguarding this, asr-007840 08:58:59.080 --> 08:59:01.000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the MOA requires asr-007841 08:59:01.000 --> 08:59:02.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the attachment of the search, asr-007842 08:59:02.500 --> 08:59:04.900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: identification from the partner, asr-007843 08:59:04.900 --> 08:59:05.520 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: LGU, asr-007844 08:59:05.980 --> 08:59:07.000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that the project asr-007845 08:59:07.000 --> 08:59:08.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: has not been funded asr-007846 08:59:08.880 --> 08:59:11.360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: from any other source, asr-007847 08:59:11.740 --> 08:59:13.060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: whether national, asr-007848 08:59:13.640 --> 08:59:13.940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: local, asr-007849 08:59:14.400 --> 08:59:14.980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: international, asr-007850 08:59:15.500 --> 08:59:16.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: or private. asr-007851 08:59:16.580 --> 08:59:18.340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yung request ko na lang po, asr-007852 08:59:18.420 --> 08:59:19.220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, asr-007853 08:59:19.620 --> 08:59:21.240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na makahingi po kami ng breakdown asr-007854 08:59:21.240 --> 08:59:22.660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para makita lang po natin. asr-007855 08:59:23.060 --> 08:59:23.300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi, asr-007856 08:59:24.000 --> 08:59:25.800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: malaki yung component eh asr-007857 08:59:25.800 --> 08:59:26.500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for PAMANA. asr-007858 08:59:26.960 --> 08:59:28.100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Last question, Mr. Speaker, asr-007859 08:59:28.180 --> 08:59:29.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: with your indulgence, asr-007860 08:59:29.060 --> 08:59:29.760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, asr-007861 08:59:30.040 --> 08:59:30.680 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and our sponsor. asr-007862 08:59:30.700 --> 08:59:31.600 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: That would be the last question asr-007863 08:59:31.600 --> 08:59:32.260 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of the gentleman. asr-007864 08:59:32.500 --> 08:59:35.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya po pinag-uusapan natin asr-007865 08:59:35.480 --> 08:59:36.200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: itong PAMANA. asr-007866 08:59:36.940 --> 08:59:38.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi, Mr. Sponsor, asr-007867 08:59:38.600 --> 08:59:39.300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, asr-007868 08:59:40.580 --> 08:59:41.580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: napakalaki po ng asr-007869 08:59:41.580 --> 08:59:43.180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: unliquidated funds asr-007870 08:59:43.180 --> 08:59:45.820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nakita po ng asr-007871 08:59:45.820 --> 08:59:46.960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Commission on Audit asr-007872 08:59:46.960 --> 08:59:48.220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: regarding this matter. asr-007873 08:59:49.120 --> 08:59:49.920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Say, for example, asr-007874 08:59:50.260 --> 08:59:50.940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, asr-007875 08:59:51.000 --> 08:59:51.600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, asr-007876 08:59:52.480 --> 08:59:53.560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in 2026, asr-007877 08:59:53.700 --> 08:59:54.560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: this year alone, asr-007878 08:59:55.740 --> 08:59:57.020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: second quarter, asr-007879 08:59:57.920 --> 08:59:59.940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 1.26 billion asr-007880 08:59:59.940 --> 09:00:00.620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang unliquidated for PAMANA. asr-007901 09:00:02.600 --> 09:00:04.300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In 2025 year-end, asr-007902 09:00:05.400 --> 09:00:07.920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 3.93 billion unliquidated. asr-007903 09:00:08.080 --> 09:00:09.740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ito po yung naabutan na lang siguro asr-007904 09:00:09.740 --> 09:00:12.360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ni Good Secretary Mel Sarmiento. asr-007905 09:00:13.360 --> 09:00:13.860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And then, asr-007906 09:00:13.860 --> 09:00:17.380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the total unliquidated PAMANA transfers asr-007907 09:00:17.380 --> 09:00:20.380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: per COA audit findings asr-007908 09:00:20.380 --> 09:00:24.460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is 9.936 billion pesos. asr-007909 09:00:25.680 --> 09:00:27.560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang lalaki po ng mga unliquidated asr-007910 09:00:27.560 --> 09:00:29.940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: PAMANA transfers. asr-007911 09:00:30.920 --> 09:00:31.220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And then, asr-007912 09:00:32.340 --> 09:00:32.900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and then, asr-007913 09:00:32.980 --> 09:00:35.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, asr-007914 09:00:36.000 --> 09:00:37.000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: here we are, asr-007915 09:00:37.800 --> 09:00:39.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: deliberating the, asr-007916 09:00:39.300 --> 09:00:41.500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: another request of OPA-PRO, asr-007917 09:00:42.160 --> 09:00:45.280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: requesting 6.090 billion asr-007918 09:00:45.280 --> 09:00:49.340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: despite these repeated flags asr-007919 09:00:49.340 --> 09:00:51.420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: by the Commission on Audit. asr-007920 09:00:53.000 --> 09:00:55.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yun po yung gusto nating malaman, asr-007921 09:00:55.760 --> 09:00:57.380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ano po yung mga pamamaraan asr-007922 09:00:57.380 --> 09:00:59.080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na ginagawa na ngayon ng OPA-PRO asr-007923 09:00:59.080 --> 09:01:02.520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to reconcile these audit findings asr-007924 09:01:02.520 --> 09:01:05.000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: by the billions of pesos in amount. asr-007925 09:01:05.780 --> 09:01:06.240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And now, asr-007926 09:01:07.140 --> 09:01:09.320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: we are discussing the budget asr-007927 09:01:09.320 --> 09:01:11.900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for OPA-PRO for fiscal year 2027. asr-007928 09:01:11.900 --> 09:01:14.160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Another request, asr-007929 09:01:14.780 --> 09:01:16.200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 6 billion for that matter asr-007930 09:01:16.200 --> 09:01:17.020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is being made asr-007931 09:01:17.020 --> 09:01:19.920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: despite these staggering asr-007932 09:01:19.920 --> 09:01:21.640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: unliquidated fund transfers. asr-007933 09:01:22.080 --> 09:01:24.100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor. asr-007934 09:01:25.040 --> 09:01:25.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes. asr-007935 09:01:27.000 --> 09:01:28.900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The 2017 asr-007936 09:01:29.080 --> 09:01:31.200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: PAMANA projects, asr-007937 09:01:31.420 --> 09:01:33.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: which refers to the asr-007938 09:01:33.480 --> 09:01:35.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: fund transfer made to various asr-007939 09:01:35.440 --> 09:01:37.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: implementing agencies asr-007940 09:01:37.240 --> 09:01:39.340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the implementation of asr-007941 09:01:39.340 --> 09:01:41.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: PAMANA programs for asr-007942 09:01:41.300 --> 09:01:42.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: calendar year 2017, asr-007943 09:01:43.660 --> 09:01:44.620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: totaling to asr-007944 09:01:44.620 --> 09:01:48.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 6 billion, asr-007945 09:01:48.380 --> 09:01:50.500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 185 million, asr-007946 09:01:51.060 --> 09:01:52.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 513. asr-007947 09:01:53.400 --> 09:01:55.680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: As of July 2024, asr-007948 09:01:55.680 --> 09:01:57.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the record shows asr-007949 09:01:57.280 --> 09:01:59.020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 3 billion, asr-007950 09:01:59.080 --> 09:02:01.820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 698, 635, asr-007951 09:02:02.000 --> 09:02:03.000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 631 asr-007952 09:02:03.000 --> 09:02:05.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: were already liquidated asr-007953 09:02:05.480 --> 09:02:07.200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and refunded asr-007954 09:02:07.200 --> 09:02:09.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: respectively and the asr-007955 09:02:09.280 --> 09:02:11.320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: corresponding liquidation reports asr-007956 09:02:11.320 --> 09:02:13.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: were submitted to the asr-007957 09:02:13.480 --> 09:02:15.640 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Office of the Commission on Audit. asr-007958 09:02:16.400 --> 09:02:16.860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The PAMANA asr-007959 09:02:16.860 --> 09:02:18.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The PAMANA asr-007960 09:02:18.400 --> 09:02:23.980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The PAMANA program reactivated asr-007961 09:02:23.980 --> 09:02:25.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the citizen-led asr-007962 09:02:25.440 --> 09:02:27.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: monitoring to further asr-007963 09:02:27.260 --> 09:02:28.660 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: enhance and exercise asr-007964 09:02:28.660 --> 09:02:31.940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the operationalization asr-007965 09:02:31.940 --> 09:02:33.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of transparency asr-007966 09:02:33.440 --> 09:02:35.060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and accountability asr-007967 09:02:35.060 --> 09:02:36.500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: mechanism. asr-007968 09:02:38.500 --> 09:02:40.800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished colleague, asr-007969 09:02:42.100 --> 09:02:43.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: again, asr-007970 09:02:43.520 --> 09:02:44.180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the Secretary asr-007971 09:02:44.180 --> 09:02:46.060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: does not asr-007972 09:02:46.060 --> 09:02:51.020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: does not approve asr-007973 09:02:51.020 --> 09:02:53.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: those asr-007974 09:02:53.400 --> 09:02:55.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: questionable asr-007975 09:02:55.240 --> 09:02:56.380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: projects. asr-007976 09:02:57.380 --> 09:02:58.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Again, asr-007977 09:02:58.660 --> 09:02:59.380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: we just asr-007978 09:02:59.380 --> 09:03:02.340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: joined the OPA asr-007979 09:03:02.340 --> 09:03:03.980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Pro just recently asr-007980 09:03:03.980 --> 09:03:06.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and asr-007981 09:03:06.540 --> 09:03:09.060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the Secretary asr-007982 09:03:09.060 --> 09:03:10.900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: has extended asr-007983 09:03:10.900 --> 09:03:13.120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to the members of this asr-007984 09:03:13.120 --> 09:03:15.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: chamber to asr-007985 09:03:15.080 --> 09:03:17.100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: visit projects asr-007986 09:03:17.100 --> 09:03:18.940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and programs real-time asr-007987 09:03:18.940 --> 09:03:20.660 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: or geotag asr-007988 09:03:20.660 --> 09:03:23.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: real-time asr-007989 09:03:23.260 --> 09:03:24.060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: geotag asr-007990 09:03:24.060 --> 09:03:26.420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in one system. asr-007991 09:03:26.420 --> 09:03:28.500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you for the asr-007992 09:03:28.500 --> 09:03:29.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: assurance. asr-007993 09:03:29.220 --> 09:03:29.900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: You get to see everything, asr-007994 09:03:30.080 --> 09:03:30.780 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: all the projects. asr-007995 09:03:30.920 --> 09:03:31.640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, Mr. Speaker. asr-007996 09:03:32.080 --> 09:03:33.560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you for that assurance, asr-007997 09:03:33.720 --> 09:03:34.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, asr-007998 09:03:34.560 --> 09:03:35.720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and it is really refreshing asr-007999 09:03:35.720 --> 09:03:36.440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to hear that asr-008000 09:03:36.440 --> 09:03:38.540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: coming from the Secretary asr-008001 09:03:38.540 --> 09:03:40.060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: or the Presidential Advisor asr-008002 09:03:40.060 --> 09:03:41.220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: on Peace, asr-008003 09:03:41.740 --> 09:03:42.400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Reconciliation, asr-008004 09:03:42.720 --> 09:03:43.160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Unity. asr-008005 09:03:43.860 --> 09:03:44.960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ito po yung mga asr-008006 09:03:44.960 --> 09:03:46.200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasagutan asr-008007 09:03:46.200 --> 09:03:48.260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na dapat po nating asr-008008 09:03:48.260 --> 09:03:49.120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: naririnig asr-008009 09:03:49.120 --> 09:03:51.420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: mula po sa kalihim asr-008010 09:03:51.420 --> 09:03:52.900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nangangasiwa asr-008011 09:03:52.900 --> 09:03:54.360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para masaraduhan asr-008012 09:03:54.360 --> 09:03:56.000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang mga usaping asr-008013 09:03:56.000 --> 09:03:57.180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pangkapayapaan. asr-008014 09:03:57.860 --> 09:03:58.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, asr-008015 09:03:58.500 --> 09:04:00.020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi po kasi po pwede asr-008016 09:04:00.020 --> 09:04:01.320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na perpetually na lang asr-008017 09:04:01.320 --> 09:04:02.140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nakabukas asr-008018 09:04:02.140 --> 09:04:03.380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: lahat asr-008019 09:04:03.380 --> 09:04:04.720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga usaping asr-008020 09:04:04.720 --> 09:04:05.760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pangkapayapaan. asr-008021 09:04:06.580 --> 09:04:07.260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kailangan na asr-008022 09:04:07.260 --> 09:04:08.260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pakalinaw po asr-008023 09:04:08.260 --> 09:04:09.600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng ating timeline asr-008024 09:04:09.600 --> 09:04:11.000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa kung kailan asr-008025 09:04:11.000 --> 09:04:11.500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: natin tatapusin asr-008026 09:04:12.220 --> 09:04:13.160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: o awakasan asr-008027 09:04:13.160 --> 09:04:14.400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: itong mga asr-008028 09:04:14.400 --> 09:04:15.400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: peace tables. asr-008029 09:04:16.160 --> 09:04:17.000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Dahil ang kahulugan asr-008030 09:04:17.000 --> 09:04:17.820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nito, Mr. Speaker, asr-008031 09:04:17.980 --> 09:04:18.780 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, asr-008032 09:04:18.900 --> 09:04:20.680 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: if we are able asr-008033 09:04:20.680 --> 09:04:22.040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to close asr-008034 09:04:22.040 --> 09:04:22.800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: finally asr-008035 09:04:22.800 --> 09:04:23.460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and end asr-008036 09:04:23.460 --> 09:04:24.900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: all these peace tables, asr-008037 09:04:25.420 --> 09:04:26.740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ibig sabihin din po yan asr-008038 09:04:26.740 --> 09:04:28.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: matagumpay tayo asr-008039 09:04:28.480 --> 09:04:29.980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nakapagsarado asr-008040 09:04:29.980 --> 09:04:31.020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng madilim, asr-008041 09:04:31.120 --> 09:04:31.980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: masalimuot, asr-008042 09:04:32.640 --> 09:04:34.260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na bahagi ng kasaysayan asr-008043 09:04:34.260 --> 09:04:35.820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa iba't ibang lugar asr-008044 09:04:35.820 --> 09:04:37.200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung saan merong asr-008045 09:04:37.200 --> 09:04:37.900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: karahasan. asr-008046 09:04:38.580 --> 09:04:39.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And with the assurance asr-008047 09:04:39.480 --> 09:04:41.260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of the good secretary asr-008048 09:04:41.260 --> 09:04:42.360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: through the sponsor, asr-008049 09:04:43.280 --> 09:04:44.100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: this representation asr-008050 09:04:44.100 --> 09:04:45.800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is more than willing asr-008051 09:04:45.800 --> 09:04:46.440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and open asr-008052 09:04:46.440 --> 09:04:48.240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to have a dialogue asr-008053 09:04:48.240 --> 09:04:49.720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and conversation asr-008054 09:04:49.720 --> 09:04:51.020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: with the OPAPRU asr-008055 09:04:51.020 --> 09:04:52.280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: so as to check asr-008056 09:04:52.280 --> 09:04:52.760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and see asr-008057 09:04:52.760 --> 09:04:54.760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: where we can collaborate asr-008058 09:04:54.760 --> 09:04:56.660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: regarding the existing asr-008059 09:04:56.660 --> 09:04:57.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: peace tables asr-008060 09:04:57.480 --> 09:04:58.460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in the OPAPRU. asr-008061 09:04:58.480 --> 09:04:59.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yan lang po. asr-008062 09:04:59.480 --> 09:05:00.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maraming salamat. asr-008063 09:05:00.480 --> 09:05:01.480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you very much, asr-008064 09:05:01.480 --> 09:05:02.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Majority Leader. asr-008065 09:05:02.480 --> 09:05:03.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, asr-008066 09:05:03.480 --> 09:05:04.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished Colleague. asr-008067 09:05:04.480 --> 09:05:05.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Again, asr-008068 09:05:05.480 --> 09:05:06.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the Secretary, asr-008069 09:05:06.480 --> 09:05:07.480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, asr-008070 09:05:07.480 --> 09:05:08.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the CPLA, asr-008071 09:05:08.480 --> 09:05:09.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: last September 1, asr-008072 09:05:09.480 --> 09:05:10.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: signed a asr-008073 09:05:10.480 --> 09:05:11.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: fulfillment agreement asr-008074 09:05:11.480 --> 09:05:12.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: already asr-008075 09:05:12.480 --> 09:05:13.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with the asr-008076 09:05:13.480 --> 09:05:14.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: good Secretary. asr-008077 09:05:19.600 --> 09:05:20.080 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you, asr-008078 09:05:20.080 --> 09:05:21.550 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. asr-008079 09:05:21.560 --> 09:05:23.830 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mr. Speaker, asr-008080 09:05:23.840 --> 09:05:24.520 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: to continue asr-008081 09:05:24.520 --> 09:05:24.840 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: with the asr-008082 09:05:24.840 --> 09:05:25.990 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: interpellation asr-008083 09:05:26.000 --> 09:05:26.680 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the proposed asr-008084 09:05:26.680 --> 09:05:28.480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: budget, asr-008091 09:05:28.480 --> 09:05:29.480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: I move that asr-008092 09:05:29.480 --> 09:05:30.480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: we recognize asr-008093 09:05:30.480 --> 09:05:32.480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Representative Dada Kiram asr-008094 09:05:32.480 --> 09:05:33.480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Ismula asr-008095 09:05:33.480 --> 09:05:34.480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the asr-008096 09:05:34.480 --> 09:05:35.480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Akbayan Party List. asr-008097 09:05:35.480 --> 09:05:36.480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentle lady asr-008098 09:05:36.480 --> 09:05:37.480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: from Akbayan, asr-008099 09:05:37.480 --> 09:05:38.480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Representative Dada Kiram asr-008100 09:05:38.480 --> 09:05:39.480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Ismula asr-008101 09:05:39.480 --> 09:05:40.480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: is recognized asr-008102 09:05:40.480 --> 09:05:41.480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: to interpellate asr-008103 09:05:41.480 --> 09:05:42.480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: the sponsor. asr-008104 09:05:44.480 --> 09:05:45.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Assalamu alaikum asr-008105 09:05:45.480 --> 09:05:46.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: wa rahmatullahi asr-008106 09:05:46.480 --> 09:05:47.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: wa barakatuhu. asr-008107 09:05:49.480 --> 09:05:50.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, asr-008108 09:05:50.480 --> 09:05:51.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Sponsor, asr-008109 09:05:51.480 --> 09:05:52.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: noong asr-008110 09:05:52.480 --> 09:05:54.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: September 14 asr-008111 09:05:54.480 --> 09:05:55.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ay ginanap po asr-008112 09:05:55.480 --> 09:05:56.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang kauna-unahang asr-008113 09:05:56.480 --> 09:05:57.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: BARM asr-008114 09:05:57.480 --> 09:05:58.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: parliamentary asr-008115 09:05:58.480 --> 09:05:59.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: election. asr-008116 09:05:59.480 --> 09:06:00.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Masaya po tayo asr-008117 09:06:00.480 --> 09:06:01.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na sa wakas asr-008118 09:06:01.480 --> 09:06:02.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ay nakikita na asr-008119 09:06:02.480 --> 09:06:03.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: natin asr-008120 09:06:03.480 --> 09:06:04.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mga bunga asr-008121 09:06:04.480 --> 09:06:05.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng peace asr-008122 09:06:05.480 --> 09:06:06.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: process. asr-008123 09:06:06.480 --> 09:06:07.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngunit, asr-008124 09:06:07.480 --> 09:06:08.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: may ilang asr-008125 09:06:08.480 --> 09:06:09.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mahahalagang asr-008126 09:06:09.480 --> 09:06:10.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: katanungan asr-008127 09:06:10.480 --> 09:06:11.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: lamang po tayong asr-008128 09:06:11.480 --> 09:06:12.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nais asr-008129 09:06:12.480 --> 09:06:13.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: linawin asr-008130 09:06:13.480 --> 09:06:14.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa OPAPRO asr-008131 09:06:14.480 --> 09:06:15.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: bilang pangunahing asr-008132 09:06:15.480 --> 09:06:16.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: opisina asr-008133 09:06:16.480 --> 09:06:17.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na asr-008134 09:06:17.480 --> 09:06:18.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nagmamanage asr-008135 09:06:18.480 --> 09:06:19.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at supervise asr-008136 09:06:19.480 --> 09:06:20.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng comprehensive asr-008137 09:06:20.480 --> 09:06:21.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: peace asr-008138 09:06:21.480 --> 09:06:22.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: process. asr-008139 09:06:22.480 --> 09:06:23.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang una asr-008140 09:06:23.480 --> 09:06:24.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ko pong magiging asr-008141 09:06:24.480 --> 09:06:25.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: katanungan asr-008142 09:06:25.480 --> 09:06:26.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ay patungkol po asr-008143 09:06:26.480 --> 09:06:27.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa PAMANA asr-008144 09:06:27.480 --> 09:06:28.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: program. asr-008145 09:06:28.480 --> 09:06:30.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, asr-008146 09:06:30.480 --> 09:06:31.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished asr-008147 09:06:31.480 --> 09:06:32.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sponsor, asr-008148 09:06:32.480 --> 09:06:33.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa ilalim po asr-008149 09:06:33.480 --> 09:06:34.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng 2027 asr-008150 09:06:34.480 --> 09:06:35.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: NEP, asr-008151 09:06:35.480 --> 09:06:36.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: meron pong asr-008152 09:06:36.480 --> 09:06:37.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 6.90 asr-008153 09:06:37.480 --> 09:06:38.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: bilyon asr-008154 09:06:38.480 --> 09:06:39.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pesos asr-008155 09:06:39.480 --> 09:06:40.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: allocated asr-008156 09:06:40.480 --> 09:06:41.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para sa asr-008157 09:06:41.480 --> 09:06:42.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: PAMANA program asr-008158 09:06:42.480 --> 09:06:43.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kung saan asr-008159 09:06:43.480 --> 09:06:44.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: OPAPRO asr-008160 09:06:44.480 --> 09:06:45.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mag-i-implement asr-008161 09:06:45.480 --> 09:06:46.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng mga asr-008162 09:06:46.480 --> 09:06:47.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: projects asr-008163 09:06:47.480 --> 09:06:48.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa conflict asr-008164 09:06:48.480 --> 09:06:49.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: affected asr-008165 09:06:49.480 --> 09:06:50.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at conflict asr-008166 09:06:50.480 --> 09:06:51.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: vulnerable asr-008167 09:06:51.480 --> 09:06:52.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: areas. asr-008168 09:06:52.480 --> 09:06:53.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magkano asr-008169 09:06:53.480 --> 09:06:54.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa 6.90 asr-008170 09:06:54.480 --> 09:06:55.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: bilyon asr-008171 09:06:55.480 --> 09:06:56.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pesos asr-008172 09:06:56.480 --> 09:06:57.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na ito asr-008173 09:06:57.480 --> 09:06:58.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mapupunta asr-008174 09:06:58.480 --> 09:06:59.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa normalization asr-008175 09:06:59.480 --> 09:07:01.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: implementation? asr-008176 09:07:01.480 --> 09:07:02.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin asr-008177 09:07:02.480 --> 09:07:03.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: po, asr-008178 09:07:03.480 --> 09:07:04.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: magkano asr-008179 09:07:04.480 --> 09:07:05.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang direktang asr-008180 09:07:05.480 --> 09:07:06.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mapupunta asr-008181 09:07:06.480 --> 09:07:07.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa asr-008182 09:07:07.480 --> 09:07:08.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: proseso asr-008183 09:07:08.480 --> 09:07:09.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng pagtulong asr-008184 09:07:09.480 --> 09:07:10.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa mga asr-008185 09:07:10.480 --> 09:07:11.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: former asr-008186 09:07:11.480 --> 09:07:12.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: combatants asr-008187 09:07:12.480 --> 09:07:13.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at mga asr-008188 09:07:13.480 --> 09:07:14.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pamayanang asr-008189 09:07:14.480 --> 09:07:15.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: naapektuhan asr-008190 09:07:15.480 --> 09:07:16.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng armed asr-008191 09:07:16.480 --> 09:07:17.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: conflict upang asr-008192 09:07:17.480 --> 09:07:18.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: makabalik sa asr-008193 09:07:18.480 --> 09:07:19.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mapayapa, asr-008194 09:07:19.480 --> 09:07:20.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: produktibo asr-008195 09:07:20.480 --> 09:07:21.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at ligtas asr-008196 09:07:21.480 --> 09:07:22.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na pamumuhay? asr-008197 09:07:22.480 --> 09:07:23.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, asr-008198 09:07:23.480 --> 09:07:24.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: thank you. asr-008199 09:07:24.480 --> 09:07:25.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you. asr-008200 09:07:25.480 --> 09:07:26.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Mr. asr-008201 09:07:26.480 --> 09:07:27.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Honor, asr-008202 09:07:27.480 --> 09:07:28.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished asr-008203 09:07:28.480 --> 09:07:29.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Chief, asr-008204 09:07:29.480 --> 09:07:30.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ang mapupunta asr-008205 09:07:30.480 --> 09:07:31.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: po sa asr-008206 09:07:31.480 --> 09:07:32.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: BARM asr-008207 09:07:32.480 --> 09:07:33.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ay 25 asr-008208 09:07:33.480 --> 09:07:34.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: projects. asr-008209 09:07:34.480 --> 09:07:35.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The amount, asr-008210 09:07:35.480 --> 09:07:36.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: allocated asr-008211 09:07:36.480 --> 09:07:37.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: amount asr-008212 09:07:37.480 --> 09:07:38.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is asr-008213 09:07:38.480 --> 09:07:39.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 800, asr-008214 09:07:39.480 --> 09:07:40.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 868 asr-008215 09:07:40.480 --> 09:07:41.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: million asr-008216 09:07:41.480 --> 09:07:42.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 440,000. asr-008217 09:07:49.200 --> 09:07:49.800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang asr-008218 09:07:49.800 --> 09:07:50.040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: aking asr-008219 09:07:50.040 --> 09:07:50.278 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pong asr-008220 09:07:50.278 --> 09:07:50.640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: naging asr-008221 09:07:50.640 --> 09:07:51.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: katanungan asr-008222 09:07:51.480 --> 09:07:52.548 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ay asr-008223 09:07:52.558 --> 09:07:53.078 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: magkano asr-008224 09:07:53.078 --> 09:07:53.598 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: po ang asr-008225 09:07:53.598 --> 09:07:54.398 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mapupunta asr-008226 09:07:54.398 --> 09:07:54.680 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para asr-008227 09:07:54.680 --> 09:07:55.388 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa asr-008228 09:07:55.398 --> 09:07:56.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: normalization asr-008229 09:07:56.480 --> 09:07:58.670 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: implementation. asr-008230 09:07:58.680 --> 09:08:00.122 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Normalization asr-008231 09:08:00.122 --> 09:08:01.300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: implementation. asr-008234 09:08:15.480 --> 09:08:16.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ito po, asr-008235 09:08:16.480 --> 09:08:17.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Your Honor. asr-008236 09:08:22.480 --> 09:08:23.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: MILF asr-008237 09:08:23.480 --> 09:08:29.120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: MILF, 23 projects, 563,000,000. asr-008238 09:08:29.120 --> 09:08:34.120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: MNLF, 7... asr-008239 09:08:34.120 --> 09:08:41.040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang dalilang. asr-008240 09:08:41.400 --> 09:08:41.780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige po. asr-008241 09:09:03.440 --> 09:09:04.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sige po. asr-008242 09:09:04.080 --> 09:09:04.100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: At to, asr-008243 09:09:04.120 --> 09:09:14.680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 2.2 billion for normalization, including CAMPS, CAMPS Transformation Program. asr-008244 09:09:15.780 --> 09:09:17.020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Maraming salamat po. asr-008245 09:09:17.300 --> 09:09:18.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sa 2027 po. asr-008246 09:09:19.500 --> 09:09:21.440 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 2.2 billion. asr-008247 09:09:21.760 --> 09:09:22.940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yeah, 2.2 billion. asr-008248 09:09:23.360 --> 09:09:23.860 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay po. asr-008249 09:09:24.480 --> 09:09:32.200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Susunod pong katanungan, sa ilalim naman din po ng special provisions ng 2027 NEP, asr-008250 09:09:32.200 --> 09:09:34.080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang OPA-PRO ay merong... asr-008251 09:09:34.080 --> 09:09:43.340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang obligasyon na i-validate ang implementation ng PAMANA program by the DSWD, NCIP, at PhilHealth. asr-008252 09:09:43.680 --> 09:09:51.380 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At ang kabuoang halaga na ini-implement ng mga ahensya na ito ay nasa 1.4 billion pesos. asr-008253 09:09:52.080 --> 09:09:59.160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Sponsor, maaari bang ipaliwanag kung ano ang pagkakaiba nito sa 6.9 billion asr-008254 09:10:00.100 --> 09:10:03.560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: that will be directly implemented by the OPA-PRO? asr-008255 09:10:03.560 --> 09:10:22.820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yung nabanggit niyo po na yung mga NCIP, PhilHealth, DSWD, PhilHealth, and NCIP, asr-008256 09:10:24.000 --> 09:10:29.560 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: diretso po ito sa agencies such as DSWD, PhilHealth, and NCIP. asr-008257 09:10:29.560 --> 09:10:33.520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero ang OPA-PRO po ay may obligasyon. asr-008258 09:10:33.520 --> 09:10:35.560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Na i-validate ito. Tama po ba? asr-008259 09:10:46.720 --> 09:10:49.500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, binabalidate po ng OPA-PRO. asr-008260 09:10:50.000 --> 09:10:52.120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Oversight po ang OPA-PRO sa mga projects. asr-008261 09:10:52.140 --> 09:11:01.920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At kung aking babalikan po kanina, ibig sabihin na yung 1.4 billion ay directang mapupunta sa mga ahensyang nasabi asr-008262 09:11:01.920 --> 09:11:06.700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at ito'y nakaseparate doon sa 6.9 billion. Tama? asr-008263 09:11:07.120 --> 09:11:08.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, diretso po sa kanila. asr-008264 09:11:08.900 --> 09:11:09.820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Maraming salamat po. asr-008265 09:11:10.320 --> 09:11:18.960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, mas malaki na ang ginagampanan role ng OPA-PRO sa pagpapatupad ng pamana program. asr-008266 09:11:19.840 --> 09:11:26.660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano masisiguro ng OPA-PRO na meron itong capacity para i-implement ito effectively asr-008267 09:11:26.660 --> 09:11:31.900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at ano ang 2027 targets ng OPA-PRO para sa pamana program? asr-008268 09:11:31.920 --> 09:11:40.160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang OPA-PRO ay hindi po nag-implement. asr-008269 09:11:41.400 --> 09:11:46.800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Nag-aano lang po ng download ng funds. asr-008270 09:11:48.000 --> 09:11:51.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It's either the local government or maybe DPWH. asr-008271 09:11:53.460 --> 09:11:56.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang agency po, hindi po ang OPA-PRO. asr-008272 09:11:57.980 --> 09:12:00.200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Oversight lang po ang OPA-PRO. asr-008273 09:12:00.200 --> 09:12:01.040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Opo. asr-008274 09:12:01.920 --> 09:12:06.040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kanina sa katanungan ko sa 1.4 billion. asr-008275 09:12:06.520 --> 09:12:15.800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Itong pang-apat kong tanong po, paano po kaya masisiguro ng OPA-PRO na meron itong capacity para i-implement effectively asr-008276 09:12:15.800 --> 09:12:21.920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at ano ang 2027 targets ng OPA-PRO para sa pamana program? asr-008277 09:12:27.520 --> 09:12:31.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: We have specific nandito po. asr-008278 09:12:31.920 --> 09:12:34.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Targets for every region. asr-008279 09:12:34.560 --> 09:12:34.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Okay po. asr-008280 09:12:38.580 --> 09:12:40.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: For every region. asr-008281 09:12:40.680 --> 09:12:41.100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige po. asr-008282 09:12:41.600 --> 09:12:42.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa kabuuan po. asr-008283 09:12:42.480 --> 09:12:45.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: For every region specific project. asr-008284 09:12:45.560 --> 09:12:46.100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay po. asr-008285 09:12:46.420 --> 09:12:54.540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa kabuuan po, nasa ilan po ang target ng OPA-PRO for 2027 for pamana alone? asr-008286 09:12:55.000 --> 09:12:55.660 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: For pamana. asr-008287 09:12:56.380 --> 09:12:56.820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes po. asr-008288 09:13:00.600 --> 09:13:01.760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 6.9 billion. asr-008289 09:13:01.920 --> 09:13:04.780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 6.9. asr-008290 09:13:05.000 --> 09:13:05.200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes. asr-008291 09:13:05.320 --> 09:13:07.620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 6.9B yung budget. asr-008292 09:13:08.160 --> 09:13:09.560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang target po, ilan? asr-008293 09:13:17.800 --> 09:13:19.680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang target po, ito po. asr-008294 09:13:19.940 --> 09:13:21.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang 152 projects. asr-008295 09:13:25.220 --> 09:13:26.780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 152 projects. asr-008296 09:13:28.580 --> 09:13:31.740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: May porsyento po ba tayong pinag-uusapan dito? asr-008297 09:13:31.920 --> 09:13:40.140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilang percent ng 6.90 billion yung target ng pamana para sa 2027? asr-008298 09:14:00.140 --> 09:14:01.020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes. asr-008299 09:14:01.020 --> 09:14:15.700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This thing is, ito po yung projected targets for 2027 covering both infrastructure and social protection components. asr-008300 09:14:16.460 --> 09:14:16.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Diba? asr-008301 09:14:16.540 --> 09:14:30.940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sa program, social infrastructure, may 4,948,000 target beneficiaries, 264. asr-008302 09:14:31.020 --> 09:14:34.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: LGUs ang unit. asr-008303 09:14:35.540 --> 09:14:40.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And program management support, 52 million. asr-008304 09:14:40.680 --> 09:14:45.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Social protection, 258 million students. asr-008305 09:14:45.300 --> 09:14:54.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And educational assistance is 832 million 290. asr-008306 09:14:54.880 --> 09:14:59.480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Target beneficiaries, 16,150 student. asr-008323 09:15:00.000 --> 09:15:06.940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: A total of 6,090,290,000. asr-008324 09:15:07.260 --> 09:15:09.040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Alright. Maraming salamat po. asr-008325 09:15:09.560 --> 09:15:21.160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa panghuli ko pong katanungan para sa pamana program, ano ang posisyon ng OPA-PRO sa kung sino dapat ang implementing agency ng pamana program? asr-008326 09:15:21.920 --> 09:15:26.820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Are they in favor na ibalik ang implementasyon nito sa mga line agencies? asr-008327 09:15:26.820 --> 09:15:33.600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: More on sa LGU po, ang ano ng OPA-PRO. asr-008328 09:15:36.200 --> 09:15:38.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: LGU po ang parating kausap ng OPA-PRO. asr-008329 09:15:39.920 --> 09:15:50.420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes po, naintindihan ko po ito. Ngunit ang tanong ko po, ano po kaya ang posisyon ng OPA-PRO kung sino dapat ang implementing agency ng pamana program? asr-008330 09:15:51.220 --> 09:15:52.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sangayon po ba? asr-008331 09:15:52.120 --> 09:15:52.600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: LGU. asr-008332 09:15:53.160 --> 09:15:53.800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: LGU. asr-008333 09:15:54.120 --> 09:15:55.300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sangayon po ba? asr-008334 09:15:55.300 --> 09:15:56.800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang best pa rin, LGU. asr-008335 09:15:56.820 --> 09:15:57.820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: LGU, Your Honor. asr-008336 09:15:58.440 --> 09:16:04.920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin hindi po kayo sumasangayon na ibalik ang implementasyon na ito sa mga line agencies, tama? asr-008337 09:16:05.300 --> 09:16:05.820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Hindi po. asr-008338 09:16:06.000 --> 09:16:06.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Hindi po. asr-008339 09:16:06.780 --> 09:16:07.880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. asr-008340 09:16:08.480 --> 09:16:11.040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: For accountability and transparency. asr-008341 09:16:11.560 --> 09:16:14.860 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Alright. Maraming salamat po, Mr. Sponsor. asr-008342 09:16:15.260 --> 09:16:22.780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ako naman po ay dadako ngayon sa budget para sa educational assistance program ng OPA-PRO, no? asr-008343 09:16:23.400 --> 09:16:26.780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, can OPA-PRO confirm? asr-008344 09:16:26.820 --> 09:16:35.240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Na sa 2027-NEP, nagkaroon ng increase sa allocation for education at scholarship. Tama po ba? asr-008345 09:16:39.680 --> 09:16:40.880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Wala po. asr-008346 09:16:41.320 --> 09:16:42.720 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Wala pong increase. asr-008347 09:16:46.420 --> 09:16:55.820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Para po sa education at scholarship program, ano ang utilization rate from 2023 to 2026? asr-008348 09:16:55.820 --> 09:16:56.600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 2026. asr-008349 09:16:56.820 --> 09:17:02.960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kahit detalye na lamang po ng utilization rate. asr-008350 09:17:07.560 --> 09:17:14.000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Actually, Your Honor, ang EF ay last year lang nabigay. asr-008351 09:17:15.680 --> 09:17:18.020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: That's 850 million. asr-008352 09:17:20.420 --> 09:17:21.920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Only this year. asr-008353 09:17:23.100 --> 09:17:24.920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: EF amana only this year. asr-008354 09:17:25.720 --> 09:17:26.800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 850 million. asr-008355 09:17:26.820 --> 09:17:32.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin wala po noong 2023, 24, 25. asr-008356 09:17:32.560 --> 09:17:33.000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Wala po. asr-008357 09:17:33.280 --> 09:17:34.660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magkano po ngayong taon? asr-008358 09:17:35.020 --> 09:17:36.360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 850 million. asr-008359 09:17:36.400 --> 09:17:39.760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At nasa magkano na po ang kasalukuyang utilization? asr-008360 09:17:47.180 --> 09:17:49.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Wala pa pong release. asr-008361 09:17:49.820 --> 09:17:51.060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Kaya aling sa OPA. asr-008362 09:17:53.260 --> 09:17:53.980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Zero. asr-008363 09:17:54.560 --> 09:17:56.000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Wala pa. Okay. asr-008364 09:17:56.820 --> 09:18:00.080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilan ba ang scholars natin for 2026 po? asr-008365 09:18:00.520 --> 09:18:06.060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At ilan po ang target beneficiaries natin for the next year, 2027? asr-008366 09:18:09.360 --> 09:18:13.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ah, 16,150. Pareho lang po ng 2027. asr-008367 09:18:14.480 --> 09:18:16.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 16,150. asr-008368 09:18:16.880 --> 09:18:17.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 50. asr-008369 09:18:17.720 --> 09:18:19.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 16,150. asr-008370 09:18:19.640 --> 09:18:21.340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ito yung for 2026. asr-008371 09:18:24.760 --> 09:18:26.360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 26 and 27. asr-008372 09:18:26.360 --> 09:18:27.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Pareho lang po. asr-008373 09:18:28.400 --> 09:18:30.820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So pareho lamang po ang magiging target? asr-008374 09:18:30.880 --> 09:18:31.060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes. asr-008375 09:18:32.160 --> 09:18:32.680 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Time lang. asr-008376 09:18:34.800 --> 09:18:45.140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: May mga reports po tayong narireceive na hindi po natatanggap ng mga anak ng combatants ang kanilang educational grants on time. asr-008377 09:18:45.840 --> 09:18:49.760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Na siyang nagdudulot ng pagkaantala sa kanilang pag-aaral. asr-008378 09:18:49.900 --> 09:18:53.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished sponsor, ano po kaya ang dahilan dito? asr-008379 09:18:56.360 --> 09:19:04.700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ah, your honor, actually wala pang, ano, dahil wala pong narirelease. asr-008380 09:19:05.700 --> 09:19:06.860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: O wala pong... asr-008381 09:19:06.860 --> 09:19:14.360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaugnay po ng nasabing niyo pong kanina, dahil wala pong nadadownload sa inyo ang DBM, wala pa talagang narirelease. asr-008382 09:19:15.260 --> 09:19:15.580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Wala po. asr-008383 09:19:15.880 --> 09:19:17.400 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay po. Maraming salamat. asr-008384 09:19:17.400 --> 09:19:23.940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: In relation sa pagkaantala ng pagbibigay ng educational assistance or grants, asr-008385 09:19:24.580 --> 09:19:26.200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nakakuha ang aking opisina ng... asr-008386 09:19:26.200 --> 09:19:33.580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng kopya ng terms and conditions ng educational assistance program for decommissioned combatants. asr-008387 09:19:34.120 --> 09:19:39.240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa ilalim nito, nakasaad na subject to availability of funds, asr-008388 09:19:39.680 --> 09:19:42.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang pag-receive ng educational grants, no? asr-008389 09:19:42.660 --> 09:19:46.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished sponsor, maaari bang ipaliwanag ito? asr-008390 09:19:46.120 --> 09:19:52.500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At hindi ba ito may ituring na isang conditionality na maaaring magdulot asr-008391 09:19:52.500 --> 09:19:56.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng pagkaantala sa pagbibigay ng educational grants? asr-008392 09:19:56.200 --> 09:20:02.740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Pwede pong pakiulit yung... asr-008393 09:20:02.740 --> 09:20:03.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sige po. asr-008394 09:20:04.120 --> 09:20:10.460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nasabi niyo po kasi kanina na dahil wala pa nga pong naibababa ang DBM sa inyo, no? asr-008395 09:20:11.160 --> 09:20:13.800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero may targets kayo and may budget, tama? asr-008396 09:20:15.140 --> 09:20:21.200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: In relation sa pagkaantala ng pagbibigay ng educational assistance or grants, asr-008397 09:20:21.680 --> 09:20:22.200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nakakuha ang aking opisina ng kopya ng terms and conditions... asr-008398 09:20:22.200 --> 09:20:26.180 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nakakuha ang aking opisina ng kopya ng terms and conditions ng pagbibigay ng educational assistance or grants, asr-008399 09:20:26.200 --> 09:20:40.100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa ilalim nito, mayroon pong nakasaad na subject to availability of funds, asr-008400 09:20:40.320 --> 09:20:43.560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang pagka-receive ng educational grants. asr-008401 09:20:44.400 --> 09:20:54.200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished sponsor, maaari bang ipaliwanag at hindi ba ito may ituturing na isang conditionality asr-008402 09:20:54.200 --> 09:21:00.980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na maaaring magdulot ng pagkaantala sa pagbibigay ng educational assistance? asr-008403 09:21:10.780 --> 09:21:16.520 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished owner, yung funds po ay nasa DBM. asr-008404 09:21:17.320 --> 09:21:19.360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It's beyond OPA Pro. asr-008405 09:21:20.360 --> 09:21:21.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang budget niyan. asr-008406 09:21:21.440 --> 09:21:23.120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So nagaantay lang po. asr-008407 09:21:23.280 --> 09:21:23.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Although... asr-008408 09:21:24.200 --> 09:21:32.780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ginagawa na rin pong mga hakbang ng OPA Pro sa MOA ng State Universities. asr-008409 09:21:33.500 --> 09:21:38.100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: But OPA Pro is waiting for the DBM to release. asr-008410 09:21:40.140 --> 09:21:46.280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngunit, base nga po doon sa condition ng educational assistance na ito, asr-008411 09:21:46.800 --> 09:21:51.800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mayroon po kasing nakalagay na subject, subject for the availability of funds. asr-008412 09:21:51.800 --> 09:21:53.980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano yung ibig sabihin nun? asr-008413 09:21:54.200 --> 09:21:58.700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi ba napondohan na ito, ngunit hindi lang nadadownload? asr-008414 09:21:58.880 --> 09:21:59.080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yan. asr-008415 09:21:59.280 --> 09:22:00.620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And you are just waiting. asr-008416 09:22:00.760 --> 09:22:06.420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So ibig sabihin kung wala pong pondo mula sa DBM, wala rin pong mabibigay yung OPA Pro, tama po ba? asr-008417 09:22:06.420 --> 09:22:12.940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Hindi. Lahat naman po tayo, kahit tayo dito sa Congress, ay nakaano rin sa DBM. asr-008418 09:22:13.760 --> 09:22:13.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Diba? asr-008419 09:22:14.740 --> 09:22:16.020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So we'd like to have... asr-008420 09:22:18.080 --> 09:22:23.040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang ano po eh, kung pwedeng matulungan ng Kongreso, tayo ho. asr-008421 09:22:23.040 --> 09:22:28.720 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Baka matulungan natin ng OPA Pro na ma-release yung pondo na inaantay nila. asr-008422 09:22:29.180 --> 09:22:31.000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, klaruhin ko lang po ha. asr-008423 09:22:31.020 --> 09:22:36.680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: May budget, pero kailangan. Ang cash wala pa. asr-008424 09:22:37.040 --> 09:22:46.340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes. Ang ibig sabihin po ng subject to availability of funds ay nagdidepende sa DBM kung kailan niya i-release sa inyo ang pondo. asr-008425 09:22:46.340 --> 09:22:46.540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes. asr-008426 09:22:46.680 --> 09:22:48.360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po. Maraming salamat po. asr-008427 09:22:48.360 --> 09:22:51.080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Finally, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor. asr-008428 09:22:51.520 --> 09:22:53.020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano sisiguraduhin ng OPA? asr-008429 09:22:53.040 --> 09:22:59.040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: OPA Pro na matatanggap ng mga scholars ang kanilang grants sa mga susunod? asr-008430 09:23:00.140 --> 09:23:06.180 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano ang inyong mga mechanism sa pag-i-implement ng mga scholarship program or grants na ito? asr-008431 09:23:06.360 --> 09:23:21.380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Again, pingin sa kulig. Just like nung napag-usapan natin a while ago bago ng tanong, lahat ito depends sa pag-release ng pondo ng DBM. asr-008432 09:23:21.380 --> 09:23:22.000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes. asr-008433 09:23:23.040 --> 09:23:36.280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yan po nito, no, Mr. Sponsor. Ang akin lamang po ay ang katanungan ko ay particular sa OPA Pro na ano po kaya ang mekanismo ng i-implement nila para hindi na po mangyari ang mga ganito sa susunod. asr-008434 09:23:36.300 --> 09:23:37.140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ah, yung MOA po. asr-008435 09:23:37.140 --> 09:23:43.760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Alam ko na ang DBM po ang nag-re-release, ngunit on their part, ano pong ginagawa nila dito? asr-008436 09:23:43.760 --> 09:23:51.760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Nagkakaroon po ng tuloy-tuloy naman ang pakipag-communicate ng OPA Pro sa mga students. asr-008437 09:23:53.040 --> 09:23:56.560 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Office of the President and sa mga estudyante, no? asr-008438 09:23:58.360 --> 09:23:59.400 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige po. asr-008439 09:23:59.980 --> 09:24:10.960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, ah, Mr. Speaker, ah, Mr. Sponsor, dadako naman po ako ngayon sa Transitional Justice and Reconciliation, yung roadmap po, no? asr-008440 09:24:11.740 --> 09:24:21.560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ah, Distinguished Sponsor, noong August 6 to 7, nag-convene po ang GPH Implementing Panels at MILFTWG asr-008441 09:24:21.560 --> 09:24:30.560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: on Transitional Justice and Reconciliation para i-resume ang discussion sa Transitional Justice and Reconciliation Roadmap. asr-008442 09:24:32.080 --> 09:24:40.560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maari po bang i-enumerate ang mga jointly identified activities at priority deliverables na napagkasunduan? asr-008443 09:24:40.560 --> 09:24:50.560 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ah, updates on the transitional... asr-008444 09:24:51.560 --> 09:24:53.360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Transitional Justice, no? asr-008445 09:24:53.940 --> 09:24:57.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Enhancements to file bills, no? asr-008446 09:24:58.440 --> 09:25:09.340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: HR and Senate was submitted to the Joint Implementing Panel by the GPH-MILFT Technical Working Group. asr-008447 09:25:10.360 --> 09:25:17.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Approval of the same is among the agenda in the Kuala Lumpur meeting. asr-008448 09:25:17.440 --> 09:25:21.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Once approved by the Joint Panel, the document... asr-008449 09:25:21.560 --> 09:25:30.840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: We'll submit same for the proposed workshop, right shop, ah, here in the H.O.R., in the Senate, asr-008450 09:25:30.840 --> 09:25:50.840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to harmonize proposed NTJRCE, National Transformation, National Transitional Justice Reconciliation. asr-008451 09:25:51.560 --> 09:25:58.660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay. Maraming salamat po. asr-008452 09:25:58.820 --> 09:26:04.000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Babalikan ko yung sinabi niyo pong enhancement to file bills in H.O.R. and Senate. asr-008453 09:26:04.580 --> 09:26:13.000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Alam niyo po, Mr. Sponsor, dito po sa H.O.R., kami pa lang po sa Akbayan Reform Block ang nag-file ng T.J.R., no? asr-008454 09:26:13.480 --> 09:26:21.180 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Siguro po, kung plano din po ito ng, o papro, enhancement to file bills on H.O.R. and Senate, asr-008455 09:26:21.560 --> 09:26:31.200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sana po ay mas maipush ninyo pa po itong Kongreso, ang ating mga distinguished colleagues na mag-file or mag-co-author man lang po dito, no? asr-008456 09:26:31.700 --> 09:26:35.460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kasi hindi po, sa ngayon po, hindi po kasi yun namin nakikita. asr-008457 09:26:35.920 --> 09:26:42.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: We filed our bill last year, noong July pa, pero hanggang ngayon hindi pa rin po ito gumagalaw. asr-008458 09:26:42.440 --> 09:26:45.340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: We need the oppa pro to help us on this matter as well. asr-008459 09:26:45.340 --> 09:26:51.100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Huwag niyo pong isaalang-alang lang po dito sa Kongreso na kami lang ang gagalaw dito. asr-008460 09:26:51.560 --> 09:26:56.020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kailangan din po namin ito kasi ito po yung continuing process ninyo po, no? asr-008461 09:26:56.540 --> 09:26:59.320 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, dadako naman po ako sa isa pang katanungan. asr-008462 09:26:59.880 --> 09:27:06.280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa mga na-identify na activities at priority deliverables ng oppa pro, asr-008463 09:27:07.100 --> 09:27:12.920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: confirm if meron silang budget under the 2027 para rito. asr-008464 09:27:12.920 --> 09:27:15.840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Lahat po nung nabanggit nyo kanina. asr-008465 09:27:21.560 --> 09:27:39.000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: For fiscal year 2027, 66 million has been allotted for the TGR aspect of the normalization program. asr-008466 09:27:39.000 --> 09:27:51.000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This includes 14 million for track 1 establishment of the NTJRCB and 51 million for track 2 support. asr-008467 09:27:51.560 --> 09:27:55.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: To the four TGR pillars. asr-008468 09:27:56.940 --> 09:28:07.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This includes programs, interventions such as parcelary land inventory of the areas inside the six MIL camps, asr-008469 09:28:08.540 --> 09:28:18.840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: engagements with both houses of Congress and key stakeholders for the passage of the NTJRCB bill asr-008470 09:28:18.840 --> 09:28:20.840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and other interventions. asr-008471 09:28:21.560 --> 09:28:30.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: In pursuit of the pillars on truth, history, justice, reparations, and guarantee. asr-008472 09:28:31.320 --> 09:28:41.860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: To fully deliver the commitments under the GPH-MILF-TGR roadmap, a total of 100 million is required. asr-008473 09:28:42.300 --> 09:28:43.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Maraming salamat po. asr-008474 09:28:43.260 --> 09:28:50.320 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana po ay makareceive po tayo ng updates sa mga programs and activities na ito moving forward po, no? asr-008475 09:28:51.560 --> 09:29:03.440 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Finally, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, ano-ano ang mga milestone or targets ng OPA-PRO in relation sa TGR roadmap para sa 2027 po? asr-008477 09:29:32.300 --> 09:29:34.420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished colleague, asr-008478 09:29:34.420 --> 09:29:38.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang approval of the NTJRCB. asr-008479 09:29:39.000 --> 09:29:49.900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Also, the good secretary will be meeting soon with the office of the speaker or the speaker himself asr-008480 09:29:49.900 --> 09:29:51.320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in regards to TGR projects. asr-008484 09:29:51.560 --> 09:29:53.420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the bills that needs to be asr-008485 09:29:53.420 --> 09:29:55.620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: after asr-008486 09:29:55.620 --> 09:29:57.620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the meeting in Kuala Lumpur. asr-008487 09:29:58.020 --> 09:29:59.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This is 25th. asr-008488 09:30:00.000 --> 09:30:11.560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes, maraming salamat po. At nabalitaan ko rin na ito'y naging priority bill na rin po dito sa Kongreso. Kaya konting push na lang po mula sa OPAPRU din po. asr-008489 09:30:12.560 --> 09:30:27.800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Anyway, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, bilang panghuling paksa na tatanungin ko po sa inyo, yung tungkol po sa Women, Peace and Security, isang katanungan na lamang po. asr-008490 09:30:27.800 --> 09:30:40.000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished Sponsor, can you confirm kung magkano ang budget for Women, Peace and Security programs ng OPAPRU at ano-ano po ang mga programang saklaw nitong budget? asr-008491 09:30:42.980 --> 09:30:45.800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 12,195,000. asr-008492 09:30:48.320 --> 09:30:53.900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano-ano po yung mga saklaw ng budget na ito, program ng mga budget? asr-008493 09:30:53.900 --> 09:30:56.900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ito po, capacity building for local. asr-008494 09:30:57.800 --> 09:31:15.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And international partners, collaboration, partnership and resource mobilization, localization and mainstreaming, monitoring, evaluation, accountability and learning, and unit management and administrative services. asr-008495 09:31:16.560 --> 09:31:17.520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. asr-008496 09:31:17.520 --> 09:31:27.640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: This representation believes that the Women, Peace and Security programs are important in ensuring meaningful representation, participation, asr-008497 09:31:27.800 --> 09:31:34.540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: and leadership of women across all stages of the peace process and conflict transformation. asr-008498 09:31:35.340 --> 09:31:42.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: In closing, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, ang aming kritikal na pagsuporta ay may kasamang hamon. asr-008499 09:31:43.520 --> 09:31:58.720 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Patunayan dapat ng OPAPRU na sa pamamagitan ng mabilis at tapat na serbisyo na bawat piso sa inyong budget ay tunay na napupunta sa kapakanan ng ating mga pamayanan asr-008500 09:31:58.720 --> 09:32:03.320 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at mga decommissioned combatants at kanilang mga pamilya. asr-008501 09:32:03.320 --> 09:32:19.940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa ating mga kababayan, makakaasa kayong hindi kami titigil sa pagbabantay at pagtiyak na ang mga pangakong kapayapaan ay magbubungan ng totoong sekuridad at ginhawa sa inyong pangaraw-araw na buhay. asr-008502 09:32:21.020 --> 09:32:21.940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. asr-008503 09:32:21.980 --> 09:32:24.920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Makakaasa po kayo, distinguished colleague. asr-008504 09:32:25.600 --> 09:32:27.700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Lalong-lalo na sa ating bagong... asr-008505 09:32:27.720 --> 09:32:29.700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: kalihim sa OPA-PRO asr-008506 09:32:29.700 --> 09:32:30.840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: at kalihim asr-008507 09:32:30.840 --> 09:32:32.600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Mel Sarmiento. asr-008508 09:32:33.240 --> 09:32:34.480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you very much. Majority Leader. asr-008509 09:32:36.260 --> 09:32:36.940 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, asr-008510 09:32:37.400 --> 09:32:38.980 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: next to interpellate the sponsor, asr-008511 09:32:39.280 --> 09:32:41.360 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: I move that we recognize the Honorable asr-008512 09:32:41.360 --> 09:32:43.700 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Rene Luis Co. of Kabataan asr-008513 09:32:43.700 --> 09:32:44.320 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Partylist. asr-008514 09:32:45.460 --> 09:32:47.940 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Congresswoman Co. from Kabataan Partylist asr-008515 09:32:47.940 --> 09:32:48.660 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: is recognized. asr-008516 09:32:49.760 --> 09:32:51.660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker, asr-008517 09:32:52.160 --> 09:32:54.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at magandang gabi po asr-008518 09:32:54.060 --> 09:32:56.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa ating distinguished sponsor. asr-008519 09:32:56.060 --> 09:32:58.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Magtatanong lang po tayo asr-008520 09:32:58.260 --> 09:32:59.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa isang asr-008521 09:32:59.440 --> 09:33:02.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: topic na napahapyawan asr-008522 09:33:02.300 --> 09:33:04.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na po, Mr. Speaker, asr-008523 09:33:04.440 --> 09:33:06.160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng kasama po asr-008524 09:33:06.160 --> 09:33:08.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: natin na nagtanong asr-008525 09:33:08.020 --> 09:33:10.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tungkol sa kung paano asr-008526 09:33:10.040 --> 09:33:11.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na gagasta asr-008527 09:33:11.640 --> 09:33:13.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang pera na asr-008528 09:33:13.840 --> 09:33:15.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nakaalaan sa payapa asr-008529 09:33:15.840 --> 09:33:17.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at masaganang pamayanan program asr-008530 09:33:17.700 --> 09:33:20.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or ang pamana, but in particular asr-008531 09:33:20.280 --> 09:33:21.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung educational assistance. asr-008532 09:33:22.660 --> 09:33:23.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-008533 09:33:23.840 --> 09:33:25.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mangingi lang po tayo ng dagdag asr-008534 09:33:25.800 --> 09:33:27.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na impormasyon at asr-008535 09:33:27.720 --> 09:33:30.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: klerifikasyon dahil kita natin asr-008536 09:33:30.020 --> 09:33:32.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na for this 2027 asr-008537 09:33:32.040 --> 09:33:33.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 6.09 asr-008538 09:33:33.900 --> 09:33:35.980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: billion pesos ang nakalaan dito asr-008539 09:33:35.980 --> 09:33:37.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 3.76 asr-008540 09:33:37.760 --> 09:33:39.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: billion o lampas kalahati asr-008541 09:33:39.580 --> 09:33:41.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng pamana ay para sa kalsada. asr-008542 09:33:42.240 --> 09:33:43.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Susundan na po siya ng educational asr-008543 09:33:43.560 --> 09:33:45.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: assistance na 807 million, asr-008544 09:33:46.160 --> 09:33:47.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: community infrastructure na asr-008545 09:33:47.700 --> 09:33:49.480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 377 million, asr-008546 09:33:50.320 --> 09:33:51.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bridge na asr-008547 09:33:51.360 --> 09:33:53.920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 375 million at social protection asr-008548 09:33:53.920 --> 09:33:55.520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na 258 million. asr-008549 09:33:55.800 --> 09:33:57.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-008550 09:33:58.280 --> 09:33:59.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang tanong natin, asr-008551 09:33:59.580 --> 09:34:01.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi ba redundant o duplication ito asr-008552 09:34:01.860 --> 09:34:03.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dahil may mga programa asr-008553 09:34:03.440 --> 09:34:06.000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng ganito sa ibang mga ahensya asr-008554 09:34:06.000 --> 09:34:07.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na may pangunahing mandato asr-008555 09:34:07.860 --> 09:34:09.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa pagbibigay ng servisyo? asr-008556 09:34:18.240 --> 09:34:19.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, asr-008557 09:34:19.660 --> 09:34:21.420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: distinguished colleague, asr-008558 09:34:22.100 --> 09:34:23.820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: hindi po, ano, dahil asr-008559 09:34:23.820 --> 09:34:25.400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: lang, kainang asr-008560 09:34:25.800 --> 09:34:27.060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: sabi natin kanina asr-008561 09:34:27.060 --> 09:34:28.500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ang asr-008562 09:34:28.500 --> 09:34:31.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: na-endorse po na target asr-008563 09:34:31.240 --> 09:34:31.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: areas asr-008564 09:34:31.960 --> 09:34:35.780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to validation of asr-008565 09:34:35.780 --> 09:34:37.180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: projects, the pamana asr-008566 09:34:37.180 --> 09:34:39.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and PMO ensure asr-008567 09:34:39.240 --> 09:34:41.020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: no duplication asr-008568 09:34:41.020 --> 09:34:43.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and the target specifically asr-008569 09:34:43.080 --> 09:34:45.320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the projects and the project asr-008570 09:34:45.320 --> 09:34:46.660 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: location endorse. asr-008571 09:34:49.220 --> 09:34:49.520 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: At saka, asr-008572 09:34:49.740 --> 09:34:51.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ito po yung, if I may, asr-008573 09:34:52.180 --> 09:34:53.220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the parameters asr-008574 09:34:55.800 --> 09:34:58.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: within the, within peace and asr-008575 09:34:58.460 --> 09:35:01.080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: development areas conflict affected, asr-008576 09:35:01.080 --> 09:35:04.840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: conflict, vulnerable and geographically asr-008577 09:35:04.840 --> 09:35:08.120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: isolated and disadvantaged areas asr-008578 09:35:08.120 --> 09:35:11.700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and their adjacent areas endorsed asr-008579 09:35:11.700 --> 09:35:14.140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: by the peace tables through the asr-008580 09:35:14.140 --> 09:35:17.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: processes of their respective mechanisms. asr-008581 09:35:17.880 --> 09:35:21.260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Implementation ready for DBM policies, asr-008582 09:35:21.260 --> 09:35:25.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: guidelines arising from budget goals. asr-008583 09:35:25.800 --> 09:35:28.140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Eligible projects per pamana. asr-008584 09:35:28.140 --> 09:35:30.940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Pramanang manual of operations. asr-008585 09:35:30.940 --> 09:35:33.300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Table three, eligible asr-008586 09:35:33.300 --> 09:35:35.760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and knowledgeable interventions. asr-008587 09:35:36.320 --> 09:35:38.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Eligible implementing partner asr-008588 09:35:38.480 --> 09:35:40.740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as guided by pamana manual asr-008589 09:35:40.740 --> 09:35:42.700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of operation M stable asr-008590 09:35:42.700 --> 09:35:45.040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: five guide in determining asr-008591 09:35:45.040 --> 09:35:47.360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: implementing partners. asr-008592 09:35:47.360 --> 09:35:49.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-008593 09:35:49.380 --> 09:35:51.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na lang din po tayong ng kopya ng manual asr-008594 09:35:51.640 --> 09:35:53.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At ng mga Sinambit po asr-008595 09:35:53.540 --> 09:35:55.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Informasyon At kasama na rin po, asr-008596 09:35:55.560 --> 09:35:57.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: rin po yung mga ulat na gusto asr-008597 09:35:57.120 --> 09:35:59.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: natin at asr-008598 09:35:59.120 --> 09:36:01.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na-mention asr-008599 09:36:01.420 --> 09:36:03.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng ating asr-008600 09:36:03.060 --> 09:36:05.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: distinguished sponsors sa asr-008601 09:36:05.120 --> 09:36:06.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: interpellation kanina ng asr-008602 09:36:06.400 --> 09:36:08.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kasama natin dito sa minority. asr-008603 09:36:09.320 --> 09:36:11.140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero ang I share asr-008604 09:36:11.140 --> 09:36:13.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the observation na asr-008605 09:36:13.340 --> 09:36:15.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron pong mga ahensya asr-008606 09:36:15.380 --> 09:36:17.200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ang asr-008607 09:36:17.200 --> 09:36:18.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: primary mandate na nila ay ang asr-008608 09:36:18.960 --> 09:36:20.240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: delivery ng services na asr-008609 09:36:20.240 --> 09:36:22.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: minimension. Bagamat may standards, asr-008610 09:36:23.100 --> 09:36:24.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bagamat may sinasabing asr-008611 09:36:24.880 --> 09:36:26.780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: paraan para asr-008612 09:36:26.780 --> 09:36:28.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: i-vet ang pananaw po ng asr-008613 09:36:28.500 --> 09:36:30.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: representasyon na ito ay asr-008614 09:36:30.380 --> 09:36:32.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dapat i-direction na ang mga pondong ito asr-008615 09:36:32.900 --> 09:36:34.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga ahensya asr-008616 09:36:34.740 --> 09:36:36.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ang pinaka-primary asr-008617 09:36:36.900 --> 09:36:38.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang gawain ay yung asr-008618 09:36:38.080 --> 09:36:40.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pagtawid ng mga servisyon na ito. asr-008619 09:36:40.760 --> 09:36:42.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonetheless, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-008620 09:36:42.660 --> 09:36:43.840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: narinig ko naman na din po asr-008621 09:36:43.840 --> 09:36:46.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang sagot sa nakaraang asr-008622 09:36:46.880 --> 09:36:48.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: interpellation. Pupunta na lang po asr-008623 09:36:48.720 --> 09:36:50.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa susunod kong tanong, Mr. Speaker, asr-008624 09:36:50.880 --> 09:36:52.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor. Tungkol din po asr-008625 09:36:52.700 --> 09:36:54.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ito sa educational assistance asr-008626 09:36:54.340 --> 09:36:56.460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na sa ilalim ng pamana inalaan asr-008627 09:36:56.460 --> 09:36:58.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga SUCs and LUCs. asr-008628 09:36:58.840 --> 09:37:00.460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mula sa 2026, consistent asr-008629 09:37:00.460 --> 09:37:03.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na 807,500,000 asr-008630 09:37:03.420 --> 09:37:04.660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng pondo para rito. asr-008631 09:37:05.360 --> 09:37:06.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Parehong budget rin ang nakalaan asr-008632 09:37:06.760 --> 09:37:07.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para sa 2027. asr-008633 09:37:08.560 --> 09:37:10.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ngayong 2026, saan asr-008634 09:37:10.720 --> 09:37:13.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: saan napunta itong 807,000,000 asr-008635 09:37:13.120 --> 09:37:14.420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: educational assistance? asr-008636 09:37:14.960 --> 09:37:16.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ilan ang mga beneficaryo nito? asr-008637 09:37:17.140 --> 09:37:18.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At may ibang pamana asr-008638 09:37:18.280 --> 09:37:19.980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: EAP beneficiaries pa ba? asr-008639 09:37:20.400 --> 09:37:22.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Bukod sa former MILF and asr-008640 09:37:22.260 --> 09:37:23.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: MNLF combatants. asr-008641 09:37:24.340 --> 09:37:28.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sa asr-008642 09:37:32.280 --> 09:37:32.840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: sa asr-008643 09:37:32.840 --> 09:37:34.500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: sa asr-008644 09:37:34.500 --> 09:37:36.060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: GPH MILF asr-008645 09:37:36.060 --> 09:37:36.800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace process, asr-008646 09:37:37.340 --> 09:37:38.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 12,100. asr-008647 09:37:39.880 --> 09:37:42.100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sa GPH MLF asr-008648 09:37:42.100 --> 09:37:43.640 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace process, again, asr-008649 09:37:44.440 --> 09:37:45.700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 686. asr-008650 09:37:45.940 --> 09:37:48.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: A total of 16,150. asr-008651 09:37:48.280 --> 09:37:52.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Hingi na lang din po kami asr-008652 09:37:52.280 --> 09:37:54.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng kopya ng report. asr-008653 09:37:54.340 --> 09:38:02.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I-report na ito, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, na i-bibigay sa plenaryo at sa representasyong ito. asr-008654 09:38:03.220 --> 09:38:07.260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And para sa 2027, saan-saang lugar ang target nito? asr-008655 09:38:07.800 --> 09:38:10.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano rin po ang disbursement nito sa beneficiaries? asr-008656 09:38:10.780 --> 09:38:15.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Direkta ba nila itong natatanggap o sa SUCLUC na ito diretsyong napupunta? asr-008657 09:38:16.020 --> 09:38:19.680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hindi ba isa rin ito sa maituturing na redundant na programa? asr-008658 09:38:24.340 --> 09:38:42.540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So, SUCs are, may MOA ang SUCs, and these are, ang SUCs ang nagbibigay sa mga students, no? asr-008659 09:38:42.700 --> 09:38:46.740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The amount, 25,000 per semester. asr-008660 09:38:47.580 --> 09:38:52.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat po sa pagsagot at hingin na lang din po tayo ng ating, asr-008661 09:38:52.380 --> 09:38:58.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ah, report tungkol sa anong SUCs ang nakakatanggap po nito. asr-008662 09:38:58.700 --> 09:39:05.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero ang paghawak pa rin ng pagtingin ng representasyong ito ay nababahala tayo asr-008663 09:39:05.700 --> 09:39:11.320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dahil ang pamana program ng OPAPRU ay ginagamit para sa mga diumanoy rebel returnees. asr-008664 09:39:11.960 --> 09:39:15.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May mga natanggap na din tayong reports na ginagamit ang pamana program asr-008665 09:39:15.440 --> 09:39:22.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para sa fake surrenderies o peking pagpapasuko sa mga aktivista na pinapalabas na report. asr-008666 09:39:22.380 --> 09:39:22.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, ito ay mga rebelde. asr-008667 09:39:23.340 --> 09:39:29.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maaaring gamitin din ng 807 million educational assistants sa mga SUCs at LUCs asr-008668 09:39:29.300 --> 09:39:34.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para hadlangan ang mga estudyante yung nagpapahayag ng kanilang kritisismo at aktivismo asr-008669 09:39:34.360 --> 09:39:36.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at sabihin sila ay mga rebelde. asr-008670 09:39:37.040 --> 09:39:40.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonetheless, Madam Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Good Sponsor, asr-008671 09:39:40.420 --> 09:39:44.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hingin na lang po tayo ng ating additional information para po ma-check, no, asr-008672 09:39:44.800 --> 09:39:47.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung kamusta po ang implementasyon ng programang ito. asr-008673 09:39:47.280 --> 09:39:51.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang huling mga seri ng tanong ko, Mr. Speaker, Good Sponsor, asr-008674 09:39:51.740 --> 09:39:52.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay tungkol naman. asr-008675 09:39:52.380 --> 09:39:56.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At tungkol naman po sa pagiging chair ng OPAPRU asr-008676 09:39:56.180 --> 09:40:01.100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa National Steering Committee on Women, Peace, and Security. asr-008677 09:40:01.760 --> 09:40:07.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kaugnay nito, naglunsad ang OPAPRU ng konsultasyon sa iba't ibang bahagi ng Pilipinas. asr-008678 09:40:08.020 --> 09:40:11.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maaari bang makahingi ng ulat mula sa mga nasabing konsultasyon? asr-008679 09:40:22.380 --> 09:40:44.100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: At ito po ang mga accomplishments na nagawa sa WPSCOE. asr-008680 09:40:44.100 --> 09:40:51.160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang mga na-achieve so far, integration into the comprehensive peace process and localization. asr-008681 09:40:52.380 --> 09:40:56.040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: WPS localization funds. asr-008682 09:40:58.020 --> 09:41:04.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Women, peace, security localization funds accessed by 18 provinces. asr-008683 09:41:05.820 --> 09:41:14.240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Car provinces have draft local action plans with issued resolution to regal QUESTION, asr-008684 09:41:15.180 --> 09:41:22.020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: RGADC Region 5 with technical working group on WPS communication, asr-008685 09:41:22.380 --> 09:41:37.200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: RGA-DC, Region 11, with existing local action plan, City Government of Kawayan, Isabela, Valencia, Bukidnon, have draft resolution. asr-008686 09:41:37.200 --> 09:41:53.280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Nueva Vizcaya, Quirino, Nueva Ecija, have WPS integrated in their transformation program plan. asr-008687 09:41:54.000 --> 09:41:59.140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Agusan del Sur, launch IP Women WPS agenda. asr-008688 09:42:07.200 --> 09:42:35.960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Institutions, civil society organizations, both local and international, both sharing the WPS focal points network with Italy in 2026, coinciding the network's 10th year participation as part of the field deal in the 2026 Committee on the Status of Women in the UN. asr-008689 09:42:37.200 --> 09:42:55.740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Capacity Development for National and International Partners, mainstreaming on NAP WPS across the country through capacity development by stakeholders with whole of society's scope. asr-008690 09:42:55.740 --> 09:43:07.040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: TAP, a resource speaker in international women's security trainings in Papua New Guinea, Hawaii. asr-008691 09:43:07.200 --> 09:43:17.440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Jamaica and Southeast Asia through the ASEAN IPR NAP Academy. asr-008692 09:43:17.440 --> 09:43:38.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat. Pwede rin pong humingi na lang din po tayo, besides din po sa paglalatag ng mga naiabot ng konsultasyon, ay may mahabang ulat na maaari ding maibahagi. Kung maaari po, ay hihingi po tayo ng kopya ng report asr-008693 09:43:38.060 --> 09:43:55.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng consultations sa regions tungkol po sa Women, Peace, and Security na naisagawa ng OPAPRU. Maaari po bang [unclear] siya, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? Tatanungin din po natin kung publicly available na po ba itong report na ito. asr-008694 09:44:09.960 --> 09:44:12.460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Your Honor, can we provide copy? asr-008694-split-2 09:44:12.460 --> 09:44:59.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes po. Hihingi na lang po, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, ng kopya ng mga ulat ng mga naabot ng konsultasyon ng OPAPRU sa mga rehiyon sa agenda po ng Women, Peace, and Security. At sa huling manifestation natin, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, naiulat sa atin kung ano po ang naaabot sa pagdala ng Women, Peace and Security agenda ng OPAPRU: empowerment and participation, prevention of violence and protection of women and girls in crisis and conflict, gender mainstreaming. Hindi po natin mapagkakaila na nakikita sa Pilipinas ang disturbing trend asr-008695 09:45:00.000 --> 09:45:03.020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of militarization and violence affecting women. asr-008696 09:45:03.660 --> 09:45:09.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang bilang ng mga biktima ng iba't-ibang paglabag sa karapatang pantao mula noong naupo asr-008697 09:45:09.300 --> 09:45:14.160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: si Pangulong Marcos Jr. noong 2022, ubabot na po sa mga milyon. asr-008698 09:45:14.880 --> 09:45:20.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kabilang dito ay pananakot, harassment, sapilitang paglikas, pambobomba at iba pa. asr-008699 09:45:21.040 --> 09:45:26.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nasa 755 ang bilanggong politikal sa iba't-ibang pasilidad sa buong Pilipinas, asr-008700 09:45:26.880 --> 09:45:34.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung saan 103 sa kanila ay inaresto sa ilalim ng panunungkulan ng kasulukuyang administrasyon. asr-008701 09:45:35.440 --> 09:45:42.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mula rito, 147 ay kababaihan at mahigit kalahati ay mga magsasaka. asr-008702 09:45:42.960 --> 09:45:50.040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron ding 21 na kababaihan na biktima ng extrajudicial killings at 4 na kaso ng enforced disappearances. asr-008703 09:45:50.640 --> 09:45:53.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Patuloy pa rin ang paghingi ng hustisya para sa mga comfort women, asr-008704 09:45:53.880 --> 09:45:56.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga biktima ng military sexual violence, asr-008705 09:45:56.880 --> 09:45:58.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: noong panahon ng hapon. asr-008706 09:45:58.880 --> 09:46:02.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang paglaganap ng EDCA sites sa iba't-ibang bahagi ng Pilipinas asr-008707 09:46:02.880 --> 09:46:09.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at ang tuloy-tuloy na joint military exercises sa U.S. at iba pang bansa ay patuloy na banta, asr-008708 09:46:09.880 --> 09:46:15.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi lang sa siguridad, kundi nagiging vulnerable din ang mga kababaihan sa seksual na obuso asr-008709 09:46:15.880 --> 09:46:18.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at napatunayan na ito ng kasaysayan. asr-008710 09:46:18.880 --> 09:46:25.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang mga isyong nabanggit ang nais nating ilagay sa liwanag sa usapin ng Women, Peace and Security. asr-008711 09:46:26.880 --> 09:46:33.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Dahil we are aware of the four pillars ng Philippine National Action Plan on Women, Peace and Security, asr-008712 09:46:33.880 --> 09:46:41.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa tingin po natin ang mga nabanggit ay hindi pa po nakakasama doon sa nalalatag sa iba't-ibang mga gawain ng OPAPRU. asr-008713 09:46:41.880 --> 09:46:45.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kaya naman po, continuously, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, asr-008714 09:46:45.880 --> 09:46:55.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd like to manifest that we reject the use of women's bodies and communities as collateral in military alliances and war economies. asr-008715 09:46:55.880 --> 09:47:02.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, hintayin na lang po natin ang mga ulat na nirequest ng kinatawan na ito. asr-008716 09:47:02.880 --> 09:47:06.880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But for now, maraming salamat sa mga pagsagot sa tanong natin. asr-008717 09:47:06.880 --> 09:47:11.630 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I yield to the floor my remaining time, Mr. Speaker. asr-008718 09:47:11.640 --> 09:47:14.830 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you very much, Majority Leader. asr-008719 09:47:14.840 --> 09:47:24.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Before that, Mr. Speaker, the OPAPRU wish to extend an invitation to the honorable members of this House, asr-008720 09:47:25.880 --> 09:47:36.880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to OPAP office for more briefing with regards to women, peace, security. asr-008721 09:47:36.880 --> 09:47:38.780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. asr-008722 09:47:38.780 --> 09:47:40.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Salamat po, Mr. Sponsor. asr-008724 09:47:40.300 --> 09:47:42.560 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you very much, Majority Leader. asr-008725 09:47:42.880 --> 09:47:51.880 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, next to interpellate the sponsor, I move that we recognize the honorable Presley C. De Jesus of Philreca Partylist. asr-008726 09:47:51.880 --> 09:47:54.880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentleman from Philreca Partylist, honorable Presley De Jesus. asr-008727 09:47:55.880 --> 09:47:57.880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Recognize. asr-008728 09:47:57.880 --> 09:48:06.880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, there being no more members of the minority who wish to interpellate, asr-008729 09:48:06.880 --> 09:48:17.880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate the sponsorship and debate on the budget of OPAPRU. asr-008730 09:48:17.880 --> 09:48:21.880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Before I call the majority, thank you. asr-008731 09:48:21.880 --> 09:48:24.880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Before I call the majority, please be reminded, the Vice Chair Joboy, asr-008732 09:48:24.880 --> 09:48:31.880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and the Department of the requested documents and promised documents to those who ask. asr-008733 09:48:31.880 --> 09:48:34.880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader, what does the House say? asr-008734 09:48:34.880 --> 09:48:41.880 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellation asr-008735 09:48:41.880 --> 09:48:50.400 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: on the proposed budget of the Office of the Presidential Advisor on Peace, Reconciliation, and Unity. asr-008736 09:48:50.400 --> 09:48:53.880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellation of the proposed budget of the OPAPRU. asr-008737 09:48:54.880 --> 09:48:57.880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Is there any objection? asr-008738 09:48:57.880 --> 09:48:58.880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is none. asr-008739 09:48:58.880 --> 09:49:11.520 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The interpellation of the proposed budget of the Office of the Presidential Advisor on Peace, Reconciliation, and Unity is hereby terminated. asr-008740 09:49:11.520 --> 09:49:13.800 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Congratulations. asr-008742 09:49:13.800 --> 09:49:17.790 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, I move that we suspend for a few minutes. asr-008743 09:49:17.800 --> 09:49:21.160 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session suspended.