1 00:01:16,350 --> 00:01:19,920 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Session suspended. 2 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. Majority. 3 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,800 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, Madam Speaker. 4 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,600 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: What's the pleasure of the Honorable Tiangco? 5 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Parliamentary inquiry, Madam Speaker. 6 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,120 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: What's the parliamentary inquiry of the Honorable Tiangco? 7 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:15,280 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, gusto ko lang po malaman kung bakit nilipat po from September 24 ang budget ng House at naging September 17 po. 8 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,120 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Your question is bakit nilipat yung— 9 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:33,630 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Sa original schedule po na nilabas noong September 15, ang original schedule po ng budget ng House is on September 24. Ang nangyari po niyan, inilipat po yan ng September 17. 10 00:21:33,630 --> 00:21:37,440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So ang tanong ko po, ano po ang dahilan kung bakit po ito nilipat ng September 17? 11 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:48,390 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we know from the Majority Leader if this is the only agency that the schedule has been changed or it encompasses other agencies as well? 12 00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:52,000 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, it wasn't the only agency that was moved. 13 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:59,820 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: I think there were several other agencies that were moved due to requests from the other departments. 14 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,780 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: It was actually the deferment of two agencies. 15 00:22:02,780 --> 00:22:04,640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: No, Madam Speaker, can you please name the agency that was moved? 16 00:22:04,820 --> 00:22:10,120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Because based on my record, ito lang po ang inusod. Ito lang po ang in-advance na ahensya. 17 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:16,760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So kung meron po, pwede pong sabihin kung ano pong ahensya yung inusod ng mas maaga yung schedule, Madam Speaker. 18 00:22:17,020 --> 00:22:21,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of the Honorable Toby Chango, can we proceed to the additional reference of business? 19 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: No, Madam Speaker, I do not agree. 20 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,220 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: While we are getting the data. 21 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,940 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: No, no, no, I do not agree. Let's suspend. 22 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended. 23 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,240 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. 24 00:23:07,180 --> 00:23:08,080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 25 00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:19,500 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, upon review of the schedule, the DOT, the PSA, and the Congress of the Philippines budget were all moved to a different schedule. 26 00:23:20,340 --> 00:23:22,920 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, the DOT was moved to a later schedule. 27 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:29,420 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ang tanong ko, bakit, kasi tignan niyo po, Madam Speaker, September 17 po nun, okay? 28 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: September 17, meron po naman nakaschedule ng September 18. 29 00:23:34,580 --> 00:23:38,220 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Meron nakaschedule ng September 21, 22, 23. 30 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,060 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Bakit naman doon tayo sa dulo kukuha, Madam Speaker? 31 00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:46,460 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Traditionally, matagal na kayo dito, pag nag-uusod, ang kinukuha yung pinakmalapit. 32 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,280 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: For what reason? 33 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Para makapaghanda po yung hindi lang yung departamento, kung hindi pa rin yung mga congressmen. 34 00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:59,840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kasi bakit naman po maghahanda yung congressman na mag-deliberate sa isang budget na tatalakayin pa sa September 24? 35 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Siyempre, tatalakang pag-aaralan niyo po yung September 17, September 18. Una po yan. 36 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,360 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of the Honorable Tavi Chanko, if you may, 37 00:24:10,140 --> 00:24:15,400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: this schedule, as arranged by the Committee on Appropriations, is not deliberated in the plenary. 38 00:24:15,980 --> 00:24:18,540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: This is being discussed within the Committee on Appropriations. 39 00:24:18,820 --> 00:24:26,960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: So, with the indulgence of the Honorable Tavi Chanko, if he deems it proper, he can move for the session suspended. 40 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:40,680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. Majority Leader. 41 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,600 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move to call the roll of members. 42 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:48,280 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Secretary-General is hereby directed to call the roll of members. 43 01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,600 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker. 44 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,800 Secretary-General: Roll call of members. 45 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,400 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, I still have the floor. 46 01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:00,400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: In due time, Honorable Tiangco. Roll call is ongoing; it is the highest motion. 47 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:05,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: It cannot be disrupted. Secretary-General is directed. 48 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:29,980 Secretary-General: Abalos, Abante, Asidre, Akop, Acosta, Adyong, Advincula, Agarao, Aguiao, Alano, Alba, Albano. 49 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:59,980 Secretary-General: Almario Chino Miguel, Almario Dennis, Almonte, Alvarez Jose, Alvarez Mercedes, Amante, Amatong, Angara, Angeles, Aquino, Aquino Magsaysay, Arbison Mir. 50 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:29,980 Secretary-General: Arbison Moner Jr., Enas, Arogancia, Asisto, Atideado, Austria, Barzaga, Ayon, Bago, Balindong, Nograles, Bancoro, Barba, Barbers. 51 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:59,980 Secretary-General: Baronda, Bascug, Bautista Claude, Bautista Johan, Bautista Lim, Beltran, Benitez Alfredo, Benitez Javier Miguel, Bernos Ching, Bernos GB, Biron, Bobo. 52 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:29,980 Secretary-General: Bolia, Bondoc, Bones, Bulut Tang, Cagas, Calderon, Calikto, Kawagdan, Cari, Castron, Celeste. 53 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:59,980 Secretary-General: Chanon John Almario, Chan Junard, Chua, Chua Tay, Chunggalao, Coilar, Cojuangco Jaime Eduardo, Cojuangco Mark, Colantes, Corvera, Cruz Agatha, Cruz Ricardo. 54 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:29,980 Secretary-General: Cruzado, Cua, Dagooc, Dalanghirang, Daza, de Jesus, de Lima, de Venecia, Defensor, de Gamoar, de los Santos, de Makuha, Maguila, Dimaporo Imelda, Dimaporo Sitti Amina. 55 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:59,980 Secretary-General: Diokno, Dionisio, Domingo, Domogan, Duterte Harold James, Duterte Omar Vincent, Duterte Paolo, de Faustino, Michael Carlos, de Ian Paul, Elago, Emano, Enverga, Erice, Escudero. 56 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:29,980 Secretary-General: Espares, Espina, Estrella, Ferrer Antonio, Ferrer Jeffrey, Flores, Fortun, Fresn, Fuentebella, Galang, Galeos, Garbin, Garcia Albert, Garcia Dante, Garcia Jose Arturo. 57 01:26:30,000 --> 01:27:00,000 Secretary-General: Garcia Karen Hook, Garcia Maria Angela, Guardiola, Garin, Gatal, Gato, Clepa, Go, Gomez, Gonzalez Alexandra, Gonzalez Ala Micaela, Gonzalez Christopher Shin, Gonzalez Roy, Goreta, Giko, Gintu. 58 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,740 Secretary-General: Julias 59 01:27:01,740 --> 01:27:03,820 Secretary-General: Gutierrez 60 01:27:03,820 --> 01:27:06,780 Secretary-General: Hernandez Charizan 61 01:27:06,780 --> 01:27:09,120 Secretary-General: Hernandez Dennis 62 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,580 Secretary-General: Hernandez Ferdinand 63 01:27:11,580 --> 01:27:14,380 Secretary-General: Hernandez Ramil 64 01:27:14,380 --> 01:27:16,580 Secretary-General: Hofer Hasim 65 01:27:16,580 --> 01:27:18,480 Secretary-General: Ori Bata 66 01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:20,240 Secretary-General: Ismula 67 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:21,980 Secretary-General: Iway 68 01:27:21,980 --> 01:27:23,640 Secretary-General: Javier 69 01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,420 Secretary-General: Ko Antonio 70 01:27:25,420 --> 01:27:27,380 Secretary-General: Ko Elisa 71 01:27:27,380 --> 01:27:30,340 Secretary-General: Ko Wilton 72 01:27:30,340 --> 01:27:32,000 Secretary-General: Kung Hun 73 01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:33,480 Secretary-General: Ko 74 01:27:33,480 --> 01:27:35,520 Secretary-General: Labad Labad 75 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,540 Secretary-General: Lakson 76 01:27:37,540 --> 01:27:39,360 Secretary-General: Lagbas 77 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,200 Secretary-General: Lagdameo Jose Manuel 78 01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:46,000 Secretary-General: Lagdameo Monique Yasmin Maria 79 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,860 Secretary-General: Lagman 80 01:27:47,860 --> 01:27:51,280 Secretary-General: Lagon Daphne 81 01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,240 Secretary-General: Lagon Sani 82 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,380 Secretary-General: Lara 83 01:27:55,380 --> 01:27:57,980 Secretary-General: Lazatin 84 01:27:57,980 --> 01:28:00,240 Secretary-General: Ledesma 85 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:01,940 Secretary-General: Legacion 86 01:28:01,940 --> 01:28:03,760 Secretary-General: Legarda 87 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:09,560 Secretary-General: Legazpi 88 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,300 Secretary-General: Leviste 89 01:28:12,300 --> 01:28:15,280 Secretary-General: Libanan 90 01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,100 Secretary-General: Lopez 91 01:28:18,100 --> 01:28:20,640 Secretary-General: Gloria 92 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:24,340 Secretary-General: Loyola 93 01:28:24,340 --> 01:28:27,240 Secretary-General: Luistro 94 01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,560 Secretary-General: Lumayag 95 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:37,460 Secretary-General: Macapagal Arroyo 96 01:28:37,460 --> 01:28:43,020 Secretary-General: Macasait 97 01:28:43,020 --> 01:28:48,800 Secretary-General: Maceda 98 01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,800 Secretary-General: Madrona 99 01:28:54,340 --> 01:28:59,200 Secretary-General: Malapitan 100 01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:06,760 Secretary-General: Mangudadatu 101 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:11,000 Secretary-General: Manikis 102 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:16,120 Secretary-General: Maranion 103 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,380 Secretary-General: Marcoleta 104 01:29:24,340 --> 01:29:26,340 Secretary-General: Mendoza 105 01:29:26,340 --> 01:29:28,340 Secretary-General: Marcos 106 01:29:28,340 --> 01:29:30,220 Secretary-General: Marquez 107 01:29:30,220 --> 01:29:32,760 Secretary-General: Mastura 108 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,380 Secretary-General: Matibag 109 01:29:35,380 --> 01:29:40,520 Secretary-General: Matugas 110 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,080 Secretary-General: Mendoza 111 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,780 Secretary-General: Mercado 112 01:29:45,780 --> 01:29:49,100 Secretary-General: Mercado Revilla 113 01:29:49,100 --> 01:29:51,940 Secretary-General: Miraflores 114 01:29:51,940 --> 01:29:52,300 Secretary-General: Marcos 115 01:29:52,300 --> 01:29:54,300 Secretary-General: Marcos 116 01:29:54,340 --> 01:29:55,520 Secretary-General: Mama 117 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,900 Secretary-General: Nazal 118 01:30:02,900 --> 01:30:05,940 Secretary-General: Misay 119 01:30:05,940 --> 01:30:10,560 Secretary-General: Nolasco 120 01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:15,220 Secretary-General: Uwaminal Henry 121 01:30:15,220 --> 01:30:18,960 Secretary-General: Uwaminal Sancho Fernando 122 01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:22,880 Secretary-General: Olivares 123 01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,520 Secretary-General: Ongchuan 124 01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:29,320 Secretary-General: Ordanez 125 01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,180 Secretary-General: Oreta 126 01:30:33,180 --> 01:30:37,280 Secretary-General: Ortega 127 01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:41,200 Secretary-General: Uwano Dizon 128 01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:45,080 Secretary-General: Padernos 129 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:49,760 Secretary-General: Panaligan 130 01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:53,700 Secretary-General: Pancho 131 01:30:53,700 --> 01:30:57,180 Secretary-General: Panotes 132 01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:03,120 Secretary-General: Pascual 133 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,560 Secretary-General: Perez 134 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,960 Secretary-General: Pimentel 135 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,700 Secretary-General: Plaza 136 01:31:11,700 --> 01:31:15,640 Secretary-General: Plato 137 01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,980 Secretary-General: Po 138 01:31:17,980 --> 01:31:20,920 Secretary-General: Primicia Sagabas 139 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,840 Secretary-General: Pumaren 140 01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,380 Secretary-General: Puno 141 01:31:26,380 --> 01:31:27,780 Secretary-General: Kimbo 142 01:31:27,780 --> 01:31:28,980 Secretary-General: Puno 143 01:31:28,980 --> 01:31:30,480 Secretary-General: Rama 144 01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:36,620 Secretary-General: Recto 145 01:31:36,620 --> 01:31:39,540 Secretary-General: Regencia 146 01:31:39,540 --> 01:31:43,380 Secretary-General: Remulia 147 01:31:43,380 --> 01:31:47,320 Secretary-General: Revilia Bryan 148 01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:50,880 Secretary-General: Revilia Ramonjolo 149 01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,480 Secretary-General: Ridon 150 01:31:53,480 --> 01:31:58,000 Secretary-General: Rivera 151 01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:02,020 Secretary-General: Robes 152 01:32:02,020 --> 01:32:13,000 Secretary-General: Rodriguez Eulogio, Rodriguez Maximo, Rodriguez Rufus, Roman 153 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:14,720 Secretary-General: Romualdez Andrew Julian 154 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:15,880 Secretary-General: Romualdez Ferdinand Martin 155 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:16,880 Secretary-General: Romualdez Ieda Marie 156 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:23,000 Secretary-General: Romualdo 157 01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,000 Secretary-General: Romulo 158 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:29,000 Secretary-General: Roque 159 01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:34,000 Secretary-General: Sagarbarria 160 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,200 Secretary-General: Sakaluran 161 01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:37,240 Secretary-General: Salceda 162 01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,000 Secretary-General: Sali 163 01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,000 Secretary-General: Salvacion 164 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,000 Secretary-General: Salvador 165 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,000 Secretary-General: Salvame 166 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:54,000 Secretary-General: San Fernando 167 01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:58,780 Secretary-General: Santos Maria Alana Samantha 168 01:32:58,780 --> 01:33:00,140 Secretary-General: Santos Mark Anthony, 169 01:33:01,460 --> 01:33:02,000 Secretary-General: Shimura, 170 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:05,660 Secretary-General: Singson Richelle, 171 01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:08,320 Secretary-General: Singson Ronald, 172 01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:10,720 Secretary-General: Singson Mijan, 173 01:33:11,940 --> 01:33:12,400 Secretary-General: Solon, 174 01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:14,340 Secretary-General: Soriano, 175 01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:16,200 Secretary-General: Suwan, 176 01:33:17,780 --> 01:33:19,160 Secretary-General: Swansing Bella Vanessa, 177 01:33:20,700 --> 01:33:22,600 Secretary-General: Swansing Micaela Angela, 178 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:24,320 Secretary-General: Suarez, 179 01:33:25,460 --> 01:33:26,020 Secretary-General: Suntay, 180 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:28,280 Secretary-General: Taliado, 181 01:33:28,780 --> 01:33:31,380 Secretary-General: Tan Ayman, 182 01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:33,520 Secretary-General: Tan Joseph, 183 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:36,280 Secretary-General: Tan Keith Micah, 184 01:33:37,460 --> 01:33:38,860 Secretary-General: Tan Reynolds Michael, 185 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:40,780 Secretary-General: Tan Samir, 186 01:33:41,940 --> 01:33:43,020 Secretary-General: Tan Stephen James, 187 01:33:44,500 --> 01:33:45,060 Secretary-General: Tan Chay, 188 01:33:46,180 --> 01:33:46,940 Secretary-General: Tan Watko, 189 01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:48,820 Secretary-General: Tariela, 190 01:33:49,980 --> 01:33:50,560 Secretary-General: Teodoro, 191 01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:52,220 Secretary-General: Tering, 192 01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:54,680 Secretary-General: Tevez, 193 01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:57,800 Secretary-General: Iangko, 194 01:33:58,780 --> 01:33:59,780 Secretary-General: Tieng, 195 01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:01,620 Secretary-General: Tino, 196 01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:03,780 Secretary-General: Tolentino, 197 01:34:06,140 --> 01:34:06,560 Secretary-General: Tuwan, 198 01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:11,460 Secretary-General: Tulfo Jocelyn, 199 01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:14,080 Secretary-General: Tulfo Ralph Wendel, 200 01:34:15,500 --> 01:34:16,080 Secretary-General: Tupas, 201 01:34:18,780 --> 01:34:19,260 Secretary-General: Tutor, 202 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:20,940 Secretary-General: Ti, 203 01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:22,960 Secretary-General: Umali, 204 01:34:24,660 --> 01:34:25,100 Secretary-General: Ungab, 205 01:34:27,780 --> 01:34:28,500 Secretary-General: Uy, 206 01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:31,300 Secretary-General: Roberto, 207 01:34:32,020 --> 01:34:34,220 Secretary-General: Valeriano, 208 01:34:35,940 --> 01:34:36,560 Secretary-General: Vargas, 209 01:34:37,740 --> 01:34:40,420 Secretary-General: Vargas, 210 01:34:40,540 --> 01:34:41,180 Secretary-General: Alfonso, 211 01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:43,120 Secretary-General: Veloso, 212 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:45,820 Secretary-General: Veloso, 213 01:34:45,940 --> 01:34:46,460 Secretary-General: Tuazon, 214 01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:49,020 Secretary-General: Vergara, 215 01:34:51,860 --> 01:34:52,340 Secretary-General: Villa, 216 01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:56,320 Secretary-General: Villa, 217 01:34:56,380 --> 01:34:56,620 Secretary-General: Villafuerte, 218 01:34:56,740 --> 01:34:57,400 Secretary-General: Miguel Luis, 219 01:34:58,780 --> 01:35:02,560 Secretary-General: Villafuerte Vincenzo Renato Luigi 220 01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:06,320 Secretary-General: Villanueva 221 01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,340 Secretary-General: Villarica 222 01:35:08,340 --> 01:35:10,680 Secretary-General: Violago 223 01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,040 Secretary-General: Yamsuan 224 01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,660 Secretary-General: Yap Arthur 225 01:35:15,660 --> 01:35:18,400 Secretary-General: Yap Christopherson 226 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:20,460 Secretary-General: Yap Eric 227 01:35:20,460 --> 01:35:23,580 Secretary-General: Yap John Gisnell 228 01:35:23,580 --> 01:35:25,320 Secretary-General: Yatko 229 01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,520 Secretary-General: Inares 230 01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,480 Secretary-General: Yu Giselle Victoria 231 01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:33,220 Secretary-General: Yu Joseph Kim 232 01:35:33,220 --> 01:35:34,940 Secretary-General: Yulo 233 01:35:34,940 --> 01:35:38,040 Secretary-General: Zamora Maria Carmen 234 01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,960 Secretary-General: Zamora Isabel Maria 235 01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:42,740 Secretary-General: Zubiri 236 01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:25,340 Secretary-General: Madam Speaker, the roll call shows that 228 members responded to the call. 237 01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:34,980 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With 228 members responding to the call, the Chair declares the presence of a quorum. 238 01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:35,760 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader? 239 01:39:37,020 --> 01:39:46,380 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move to take up additional reference of business and request that the Secretary General be directed to read the titles of bills and resolutions on first reading as well as communications and committee reports. 240 01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:47,820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Is there an objection? 241 01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:49,580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Chair hears none. 242 01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:57,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Secretary General is hereby directed to read the titles of bills and resolutions on first reading as well as messages, communications, and committee reports. 243 01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:58,860 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Referral to the appropriate committees. 244 01:39:59,700 --> 01:40:07,060 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, I had a pending parliamentary inquiry, so I would like to request the Majority Leader to reply to the parliamentary inquiry. 245 01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:09,740 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we know the parliamentary inquiry of the Honorable Chanko? 246 01:40:10,060 --> 01:40:19,840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ang tinanong ko po kanina is kung bakit po nilipat yung budget ng House of Representatives magpula po September 24 papunta pong September 17. 247 01:40:21,220 --> 01:40:26,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: As what the Majority Leader earlier responded, the adjustment involved the proposed budget. 248 01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,300 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The budget of the Department of Tourism and the Congress of the Philippines. 249 01:40:31,500 --> 01:40:35,380 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Yes, Madam Speaker, alam ko po na hindi natuloy yung sa Department of Tourism. 250 01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:44,180 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kaya lang po, ang ginagawa po natin, kaya po tayo nagbibigay ng schedules ng budget is para po makapaghanda yung mga members na magtanong. 251 01:40:44,180 --> 01:40:55,680 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So kung ang budget ng House ay September 24 pa, natural po ang paghahandaan muna ay yung mga September 18, September 21. 252 01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:59,620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So mas logical kung doon po humugot. 253 01:40:59,860 --> 01:41:03,340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kaya lang, what was the compelling reason? Ano po yung napakahalaga? 254 01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:09,800 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Bakit inuna yung budget ng House of Representatives when traditionally nasa dulo po yan? 255 01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:20,160 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: As I was also the presiding during that week, distinguished colleague, the reason that the budget was adjusted was that two departments were also deferred. 256 01:41:20,580 --> 01:41:24,740 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: That is DICT and DEPDEV, specifically the Philippine Statistics Authority. 257 01:41:25,660 --> 01:41:33,920 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hence, the adjustment of the other budgets to an earlier schedule, citing from the motion of the minority and the majority that there were no more interpellators. 258 01:41:34,940 --> 01:41:43,100 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: However, if the Hon. Changko is so much willing, we can inform the Committee on Appropriations that you be informed if in case there are other schedules. 259 01:41:44,060 --> 01:41:47,740 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, may precedent na po tayo dito. 260 01:41:48,780 --> 01:41:52,560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Yung budget po ng MMDA, na-terminate po yun. 261 01:41:53,580 --> 01:41:56,460 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tapos, the Hon. Tino requested that 262 01:41:56,460 --> 01:41:57,280 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: It be reopened. 263 01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,500 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: And pinayagan po siya to reopen. 264 01:42:00,340 --> 01:42:01,920 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, I'm asking for the same thing. 265 01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:07,280 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Sa budget ng house, na sana po payagan na ma-reopen yung budget ng house. 266 01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:08,700 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: For the following reasons. 267 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:20,440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Number one, noong pa lang po DBCC, on the first day, nag-request na po ako na dalhin sa committee yung budget ng house. 268 01:42:21,140 --> 01:42:22,180 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ngunit hindi po pumayag. 269 01:42:23,180 --> 01:42:24,980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, sa plenaryo na lang po. 270 01:42:25,660 --> 01:42:26,380 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi po magandang tingin. 271 01:42:26,460 --> 01:42:33,340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi po magandang tignan na ang budget ng house, eh hindi man lang pinaliwanag dito sa plenaryo at pinasa natin. 272 01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:39,860 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kaya po, humihingi po ako ng reconsideration na since pinagbigyan po yung MMDA na ma-reopen, 273 01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,500 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: eh sana ma-reopen din po yung sa house. 274 01:42:42,900 --> 01:42:45,440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: At tayo ay nasa isang unique na katayuan. 275 01:42:46,140 --> 01:42:51,620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tayo po ang ahensya at tayo po ang sangay ng gobyerno na may kapangyarihan sa budget. 276 01:42:51,620 --> 01:42:56,440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Pero tayo lang rin ang sangay ng gobyerno na may control ng budget. 277 01:42:56,460 --> 01:42:58,360 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Na gumagastos ng sariling budget. 278 01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:03,900 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Yung ibang ahensya po na pupunta dito, pumupunta sila dito sa Kongreso para humingi ng pondo. 279 01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:08,560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Pero hindi po pareho yung nagbibigay at nagre-release ng pondo. 280 01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:12,700 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of our distinguished colleague, 281 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,120 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: we are still in the additional reference of business. 282 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,460 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: What you are referring to is under unfinished business. 283 01:43:18,540 --> 01:43:21,180 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: We will go to that agenda that is third in our agenda. 284 01:43:21,660 --> 01:43:23,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Secretary General is hereby directed. 285 01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:24,820 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Okay, so babalikan po natin yan after this. 286 01:43:24,820 --> 01:43:25,300 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Yes. 287 01:43:25,500 --> 01:43:25,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Okay. 288 01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:30,400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Secretary General again is hereby directed to read the title of bills on first reading 289 01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:36,400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: as well as committee reports resolution and for referral to the appropriate committee. 290 01:43:36,540 --> 01:43:37,000 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: So directed. 291 01:43:38,180 --> 01:43:39,940 Secretary-General: Additional reference of business. 292 01:43:40,500 --> 01:43:41,060 Secretary-General: Resolution. 293 01:43:41,620 --> 01:43:43,300 Secretary-General: House Resolution 1465. 294 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:50,000 Secretary-General: Urging the DOE, the ERC, and the NGCP to fast-track, prioritize, and advance the timeline 295 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:53,600 Secretary-General: for the early completion of the Mindoro-Panay Interconnection Project 296 01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,600 Secretary-General: to establish a power loop and ensure stability. 297 01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,500 Secretary-General: And to establish a stable energy for Panay Island and western Visayas. 298 01:43:58,940 --> 01:44:00,040 Secretary-General: Representative Baronda. 299 01:44:06,140 --> 01:44:08,920 Secretary-General: To the Committee on Energy. 300 01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:11,060 Secretary-General: Committee Reports. 301 01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:14,400 Secretary-General: Committee Report number 643, 644, and 645. 302 01:44:15,020 --> 01:44:17,120 Secretary-General: Submitted by the Committee on Youth and Sports Development 303 01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:20,980 Secretary-General: on House Resolution 1462, House Bill number 11380, 304 01:44:21,420 --> 01:44:23,760 Secretary-General: and House Resolution 1463, respectively. 305 01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:26,780 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Committee on Rules. 306 01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:28,960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 307 01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:53,720 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Suspend session for a few minutes. 308 01:44:54,780 --> 01:44:55,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended. 309 01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:29,980 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. Majority Leader. 310 01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:48,440 Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: Madam Speaker, I move that we resume consideration of House Bill No. 10858. 311 01:46:48,440 --> 01:47:02,440 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There's a motion to resume consideration of House Bill No. 10858 as contained in Committee Report No. 638, and the Secretary-General is hereby directed to read the title of said measure. 312 01:47:02,440 --> 01:47:19,760 Secretary-General: House Bill No. 10858, an act appropriating funds for the operation of the Government of the Republic of the Philippines from January 1 to December 31, 2027. 313 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:25,960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 314 01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:32,840 Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the representative of the Lone District. 315 01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:37,240 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Toby Tiangco is hereby recognized. Please proceed. 316 01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:57,600 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, papagpatuloy ko lang po. Inusod po yung schedule ng [unclear] po ay pinayagan po ma-reopen para makapagtanong. Dito po sa House, nagre-request po ako ng reopening. Hindi naman po siguro maganda na wala akong nakapagtanong dito sa budget ng House. 317 01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:58,640 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Is it a motion? 318 01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:00,960 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Yes, patapusin lang po. 319 01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:29,980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Considering po na sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno, tayo po ay allowed ng liquidation by certification. So kung allowed po tayo ng liquidation by certification, mas lalong dapat ipaliwanag sa taong bayan papaano po ginagastos yung pera nila dahil hindi naman po natin ito [unclear]. So I'm asking for a motion for reconsideration to reopen the budget of the House and be presented to the plenary in the same way that it was allowed for the MMDA. 320 01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:33,080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of our distinguished colleague, 321 01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:39,000 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: while the proposed budget of the MMDA was indeed reconsidered 322 01:48:39,620 --> 01:48:43,660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: upon the motion of the majority giving way and yielding way 323 01:48:43,660 --> 01:48:47,880 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to the listed members who arrived and who wished their intention to interpolate, 324 01:48:49,180 --> 01:48:52,080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: in the case of the budget of the House of Representatives, 325 01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:57,320 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: it does not mean that the leadership doesn't want to discuss the proposed budget. 326 01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:58,040 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: In fact, 327 01:48:58,860 --> 01:48:59,820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the House is very much... 328 01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:01,660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: very much willing to discuss this. 329 01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:02,780 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: However, 330 01:49:03,420 --> 01:49:04,060 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: if I may, 331 01:49:04,440 --> 01:49:07,420 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and with respectful indulgence to our distinguished colleague, 332 01:49:08,060 --> 01:49:10,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Section 105 of our rules states, 333 01:49:11,540 --> 01:49:14,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: when a measure, report, or motion is approved, adopted, or lost, 334 01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:19,160 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: a member who voted with the majority may move for its reconsideration on the same 335 01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,180 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: or succeeding session day. 336 01:49:21,780 --> 01:49:24,040 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: As we have conferred with the Secretary General, 337 01:49:24,660 --> 01:49:27,300 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the Honorable Toby Chanko was on official business, 338 01:49:27,300 --> 01:49:29,580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: on official travel abroad, 339 01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:33,740 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: hence, with due courtesy, Honorable Toby Chanko, 340 01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,640 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: your motion for reconsideration is out of order. 341 01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:40,840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: No, Madam Speaker, it says on the next session day. 342 01:49:41,340 --> 01:49:44,460 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: We are not yet on the next session day because we have not yet adjourned. 343 01:49:44,460 --> 01:49:47,800 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So we are still in the same session day, Madam Speaker. 344 01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:50,160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So you cannot use that rule, Madam Speaker. 345 01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: It says on the next session day. 346 01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:55,320 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: We are still on the same session day, so it's a continuing session. 347 01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:59,680 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So dapat po kung ganyan ang gusto niyong gamitin na rule, dapat po 348 01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:07,240 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: nag-adjourn po noon para next session day, eh Biyernes at hindi na po ako puwedeng mag-motion for reconsideration ngayon. 349 01:50:07,340 --> 01:50:09,680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: I am not actually referring to the next session day. 350 01:50:09,980 --> 01:50:15,620 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: I am referring, the presiding officer, referring to a motion for reconsideration of a member 351 01:50:15,620 --> 01:50:19,620 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: who voted with the majority insofar as the motion 352 01:50:19,620 --> 01:50:24,860 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to terminate the period of interpolation of the proposed budget of the Congress of the Philippines. 353 01:50:24,860 --> 01:50:26,200 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Within the next session day. 354 01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,480 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi pa po tumadaan yung isang session day, Madam Speaker. 355 01:50:29,500 --> 01:50:29,680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Yes. 356 01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:31,880 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Anyway, just rule on it, Madam Speaker. 357 01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,740 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kung talagang hindi kayo papayag, then just rule on it. 358 01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:36,860 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The parliamentary status is this. 359 01:50:37,500 --> 01:50:41,820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The proposed, the interpolations of the proposed budget of the House of Representatives 360 01:50:41,820 --> 01:50:45,060 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: has been terminated as moved by the minority, 361 01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:49,820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: duly seconded by the majority last Thursday, September... 362 01:50:53,480 --> 01:50:57,820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: September 17, 2026 at approximately... 363 01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:00,900 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: before noontime. 364 01:51:01,820 --> 01:51:05,860 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: A motion for reconsideration is being put forwarded by the Honorable Chanko. 365 01:51:06,420 --> 01:51:09,580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: While the presiding officer would gladly yield, 366 01:51:10,100 --> 01:51:14,760 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: unfortunately, our rule states that only a member who had voted with the majority 367 01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:17,220 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: can vote for the reconsideration. 368 01:51:17,380 --> 01:51:19,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With that, our apologies. 369 01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:22,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The motion for reconsideration is out of order. 370 01:51:22,460 --> 01:51:22,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: So ruled. 371 01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:24,420 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Yes, Madam Speaker. 372 01:51:24,420 --> 01:51:28,840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: But I think more than the rules, transparency is more important than our rules. 373 01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:29,820 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kasi kung gusto po natin, 374 01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:31,460 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: magigilan ng korupsyon, 375 01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:33,360 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: kailangan po may accountability. 376 01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,600 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kung wala pong accountability, kung wala pong transparency. 377 01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,900 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, but if that is your rule, then I will respect it. 378 01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:44,140 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Thank you very much, Honorable Chanko. 379 01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:44,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader? 380 01:51:50,820 --> 01:51:54,660 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. 381 01:51:57,060 --> 01:51:58,540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There's a motion to 382 01:51:58,540 --> 01:52:02,320 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: consider the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. 383 01:52:03,860 --> 01:52:04,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: An objection? 384 01:52:05,540 --> 01:52:11,380 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, the period of sponsorship debate and interpolation on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit is hereby opened. 385 01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:12,760 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader? 386 01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:17,140 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Commission on Audit, 387 01:52:17,300 --> 01:52:17,640 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: namely, 388 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:19,780 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Chairperson Gamaliel Cordoba, 389 01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:23,500 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Commissioner Douglas Michael Malilin, 390 01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:27,280 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Assistant Commissioner Alexander Juliano, 391 01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,180 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Assistant Commissioner Nilda Plaver, 392 01:52:29,820 --> 01:52:57,540 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana Cese, Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabotchan, Assistant Commissioner Roy Ursal, Assistant Commissioner Joel Estolatan, Assistant Commissioner Lito Martin, Assistant Commissioner Bresilo Sabaldan, Assistant Commissioner Lucila Isidro, Assistant Commissioner Sofia Hemora, and Assistant Commissioner Estela Mercado. 393 01:52:59,820 --> 01:53:14,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Commission on Audit family, headed by the Chairperson, Gamaliel Cordoba, who never ages except for the missing few strands of hair. 394 01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:19,540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Maraming salamat sa pagdalo dito sa Kongreso kasama ang COA family. 395 01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:20,620 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 396 01:53:22,060 --> 01:53:25,680 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate. 397 01:53:29,820 --> 01:53:41,440 Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chairperson, the Honorable John Tracy Cagas, of the Lone District of Davao del Sur, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. 398 01:53:41,940 --> 01:53:50,880 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Vice Chairperson, John Tracy Cagas, of the Lone District of Davao del Sur, is hereby recognized to sponsor the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. 399 01:53:51,500 --> 01:53:53,480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 400 01:53:55,260 --> 01:53:59,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: I would like also to include or acknowledge the respective 401 01:53:59,820 --> 01:54:07,480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Regional Directors of COA, from the different regions of our beloved country. 402 01:54:09,740 --> 01:54:17,520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues, magandang hapon po sa ating lahat. 403 01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:26,520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: It is my honor to sponsor the budget of the Commission on Audit for Fiscal Year 2027, 404 01:54:28,140 --> 01:54:29,520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: amounting to 405 01:54:29,820 --> 01:54:37,040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 16.46 billion pesos, inclusive of the automatic appropriations. 406 01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:45,020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: In terms of new appropriations, which is subject for Congressional approval, 407 01:54:46,540 --> 01:54:52,460 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: the total budget of COA amounts to 14.774 billion, 408 01:54:52,460 --> 01:54:58,460 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: which represents an increase of about 2.49%. 409 01:54:59,820 --> 01:55:12,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or 359.12 million, higher than the Fiscal Year 2026 level of 14.415 billion. 410 01:55:13,220 --> 01:55:22,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Speaker, this budget will be used to support the Commission's program, activities, and operations, 411 01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:26,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: to ensure accountability for public resources, 412 01:55:28,260 --> 01:55:29,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: promote transparency, 413 01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and help improve government operations 414 01:55:33,540 --> 01:55:39,400 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: in partnership with stakeholders for the benefit of the Filipino people. 415 01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:46,620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: The Commission on Audit is the supreme auditing institution of our nation. 416 01:55:47,740 --> 01:55:51,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: It is the ultimate guardian for the public treasury 417 01:55:51,900 --> 01:55:56,200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and the bedrock of fiscal accountability. 418 01:55:56,240 --> 01:56:20,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: COA does not merely look at numbers. It ensures that every single peso contributed by our hardworking taxpayers is spent efficiently, effectively, and entirely for its intended public purpose. 419 01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:27,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: The proposed budget is a vital investment in good governance. 420 01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:43,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: By equipping COA with necessary resources, we are strengthening its capability to conduct rigorous audits, expand its workforce of dedicated state auditors, 421 01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:50,260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and adopt digital innovations that bring greater transparency. 422 01:56:50,640 --> 01:57:03,080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: To starve COA of resources is to weaken our defenses against waste and corruption. 423 01:57:04,420 --> 01:57:11,040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: To support COA is to fortify the integrity of our entire bureaucracy. 424 01:57:11,420 --> 01:57:17,940 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: As we steer our nation toward broader economic growth and development, 425 01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:20,620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: let us ensure that our 426 01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:28,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: oversight institutions remain strong, independent, and fully capable. 427 01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:30,780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 428 01:57:31,820 --> 01:57:39,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: This presentation is now ready to answer questions from our distinguished colleagues. 429 01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:42,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 430 01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:49,280 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Iris Montes of the Partylist 4K 431 01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:50,380 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: to interpellate. 432 01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:52,860 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: On the proposed budget of the COA. 433 01:57:53,540 --> 01:57:57,580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Honorable Iris Marie de Mesa Montes is hereby recognized for her interpellation. 434 01:57:58,360 --> 01:57:59,880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 435 01:58:00,140 --> 01:58:02,260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Magandang hapon po sa lahat. 436 01:58:02,380 --> 01:58:03,880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ilang katanungan lamang po. 437 01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:09,240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Unang tanong ko po, sa laki ng mandato ng COA, 438 01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:20,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sapat ba ang budget nito para maisa katuparan ang mas malawak at mas mabilis na auditing laban sa korupsyon? 439 01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:26,560 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: The question is, sapat na ba ang budget ng COA as proposed? 440 01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:32,880 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: The COA proposed originally before the NEP, 441 01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:41,580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 17 billion pesos. 442 01:58:41,580 --> 01:58:50,580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero ang na-approve sa NEP ay 15 billion only. 443 01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:59,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung dalawang bilyon na pesos ay para sana yun sa technological innovations. 444 01:59:00,140 --> 01:59:05,380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mga panibagong paggawa ng mga audit. 445 01:59:06,700 --> 01:59:16,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Unfortunately, we failed to provide what is necessary sa pamaraan ng pag-audit ngayon. 446 01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:18,740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. 447 01:59:18,740 --> 01:59:20,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yan po kasi yung sunod kong isa. 448 01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:25,500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Itatanong, doon sa kakulangan sa budget na trinopose po ng COA, 449 01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:28,880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ano po ang mga proyekto o programang matatamaan? 450 01:59:29,500 --> 01:59:32,240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At ang susunod ko pong katanungan sana, 451 01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:38,760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: magkano sana ang nakalaan sa proposed 2027 budget na dedicated to 452 01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:46,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: digital audit capabilities, data analytics, artificial intelligence, cyber security, 453 01:59:46,620 --> 01:59:50,600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and automated detection of anomalous transactions? 454 01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:59,500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi po, sa panahon ngayon, alam din po yan ng COA kung gaano kahalaga ang teknolohiyang ito para mas mapabilis. 455 01:59:59,500 --> 02:00:00,000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at 456 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At mas accurate po yung ating mga audit reports. 457 02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:18,940 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: To be specific, distinguished interpellator, ito po yung nabawas, natanggal. 458 02:00:18,940 --> 02:00:36,060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: M-O-O-E para sana sa mga P254 million and P420 pesos. 459 02:00:36,060 --> 02:00:51,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka capital outlay na P1.177 million. 460 02:00:51,300 --> 02:00:52,100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 1 billion, 461 02:00:52,100 --> 02:00:54,580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 177 million. 462 02:00:55,560 --> 02:01:02,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, ang budget ng kuha ngayon, walang capital outlay. 463 02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:11,040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung wala pong capital outlay, Mr. Speaker, 464 02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:15,420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ibig sabihin, hindi nga po tayo pwedeng mag-procure 465 02:01:15,420 --> 02:01:17,920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ng mga technological, ano, 466 02:01:18,940 --> 02:01:23,480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: equipment na makakatulong sana sa pag-audit ng kuha. 467 02:01:23,580 --> 02:01:24,300 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, wala po. 468 02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:28,060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ibig sabihin po ba sa 2027 proposed budget, 469 02:01:28,380 --> 02:01:31,440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kahit SINGCO, wala pong nakalaan para doon? 470 02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:42,520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: To be a specific, Madam Interpellator, distinguished interpellator, 471 02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:48,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: semi-expendable information and communication technology, ICT, 472 02:01:48,940 --> 02:01:52,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ITEMS and software subscription, 473 02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:55,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: fiscal year 2027, 474 02:01:56,500 --> 02:02:03,400 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kuha Information System Strategic Plan or ISSP, 475 02:02:04,140 --> 02:02:10,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na umabot po ng P213,686,000. 476 02:02:10,300 --> 02:02:17,600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka yung Citizen Participatory Audit or CPA, 477 02:02:18,940 --> 02:02:24,160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: MOOE requirements, yung mga NGOs, POs na sasali sana sa auditing, 478 02:02:24,460 --> 02:02:35,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 40,734,000. Total po, 244?254 million 120,000. 479 02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:40,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito po sana yung gamitin para sa MOE, you know? 480 02:02:42,740 --> 02:02:47,360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka yung capital outlay naman, yung sa building ng kuha, 481 02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:54,320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: building and structures, 484,617,000, 482 02:02:55,060 --> 02:03:01,820 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung mga furnitures and fixtures, 161,523,000, 483 02:03:02,540 --> 02:03:07,280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: transportation equipment outlay, 5,600,000, 484 02:03:08,100 --> 02:03:15,460 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ICT equipment and software, 525,405,000. 485 02:03:16,260 --> 02:03:17,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Total po. 486 02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:24,060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ang capital outlay is 1,177,145,000. 487 02:03:25,060 --> 02:03:28,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So hindi na po na-consider sa NEP. 488 02:03:29,500 --> 02:03:35,500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ibig sabihin nga po, wala tayong gagamitin na pag-procure nitong mga ito? 489 02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:37,780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Wala po, madam. 490 02:03:37,900 --> 02:03:43,680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ibig sabihin din po niyan, since wala tayong budget para dyan, 491 02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:47,080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: maaantala po sana yung isang, 492 02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:53,260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: teknolohiyang pwede nating magamit para mas mapalakas at mapabilis ang ating audit. 493 02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:54,160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Tama po ba? 494 02:03:55,060 --> 02:04:04,420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes, maaantala po yung trabaho nila sa mga bagong panibagong paraan sana. 495 02:04:05,020 --> 02:04:09,280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero despite of it, I commend COA, you know? 496 02:04:11,280 --> 02:04:17,320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kung natatandaan natin, even the meager resources we are giving them, 497 02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:20,960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kahit kunti, they try their best. 498 02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:23,460 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Talagang nagsusumikap sila. 499 02:04:24,500 --> 02:04:29,720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yes, we acknowledge that, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. 500 02:04:30,260 --> 02:04:34,360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pero syempre, gusto natin na bigyan din yung kahalagahan ng teknolohiya. 501 02:04:35,060 --> 02:04:41,000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sa panahon ngayon na iba na po ang nakasanayan ng mga tao, 502 02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:47,000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: o madami na pong pagbabago, dapat po syempre yung ating audit systems can keep up. 503 02:04:47,360 --> 02:04:50,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: With the changes na nangyayari din, ano po? 504 02:04:50,860 --> 02:04:57,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So yun lamang po ang gusto kong puntuhin na mahalaga na nababadgetan po natin yung teknolohiya 505 02:04:57,560 --> 02:04:59,080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: para mas mapalakas po. 506 02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:06,580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Mamaya po, babanggitin ko po uli kung bakit mahalaga din po yung mga teknolohiyang yan. 507 02:05:06,900 --> 02:05:09,360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: On to my next question, Madam Speaker. 508 02:05:09,700 --> 02:05:13,520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pagdating naman po sa coverage at sa capacity ng COA pa, 509 02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:16,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ilang porsyento ng mga ehensya at LG, 510 02:05:16,340 --> 02:05:19,200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yung aktwal na naa-audit ng COA kada taon. 511 02:05:19,940 --> 02:05:25,720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Are we 100% naaabot po natin, isang daang porsyentong audit? 512 02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:36,620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Except barangay, mga barangay local government units, 513 02:05:36,620 --> 02:05:45,520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: lahat po ng munisipyo, probinsya, at national agencies ay na-audit po ng COA. 514 02:05:46,340 --> 02:05:49,240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung sakali po bang meron tayong technical capacity, 515 02:05:49,420 --> 02:05:52,020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: maaabot po ba natin up to the barangay level? 516 02:05:52,240 --> 02:05:54,020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: If our, you know, if our... 517 02:05:56,520 --> 02:05:59,680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ano po ba ang dahilan kung bakit hindi naaabot yun? 518 02:05:59,800 --> 02:06:02,740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kulang sa oras? Kulang sa resources? 519 02:06:13,020 --> 02:06:15,360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, magandang tanong po yan. 520 02:06:15,780 --> 02:06:16,260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Maganda. 521 02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:19,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: English Interpolator. 522 02:06:20,180 --> 02:06:23,700 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kung merong sapat na teknolohiya. 523 02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:30,220 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kasi ngayon, cyclical ay yung audit ng barangay every three years lang. 524 02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:33,600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Sa dami, 42,000 barangays. 525 02:06:34,380 --> 02:06:37,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero kung may sapat na teknolohiya, 526 02:06:37,240 --> 02:06:44,100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pwede pong gawin yearly yung audit ng barangay. 527 02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:45,980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. 528 02:06:46,340 --> 02:07:03,880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Speaker, pagdating naman po sa competence and integrity ng personal, paano po tinitiyak ng COA na ang kanilang mga auditors ay may sapat na training, competence at integridad upang hindi maging bahagi po ng problema? 529 02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:28,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung tungkol po sa training, competency and capability of state auditors, upon entry po, pagpasok ng empleyado sa COA, start the training right away. 530 02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:32,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka tuloy-tuloy na yan, hanggang tataas-tataas yan. 531 02:07:32,340 --> 02:07:52,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: We retain them in the agency. After training po ba, may porsyento po ba dyan na umaalis? O meron po silang, kumbaga may return service or kung meron hindi po return service, may pinirmahan na kontrata na magsiserve sila ng specific period? 532 02:08:02,340 --> 02:08:16,140 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung mga specialized klase ng training, may kontrata po yun na they have to return the investment ng goberno. 533 02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:27,020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero yung mga regular trainings, which is done regularly, wala naman pong kontrata yun. Yung mga specialized training lang po. 534 02:08:28,500 --> 02:08:32,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Do we also have, kaugnay po niyan, may budget po ba? 535 02:08:32,340 --> 02:08:55,420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Do we also have, na nakalaan sa pag-hire halimbawa ng mga engineers, yung mga IT specialists, yung mga specialized po na profession that can help COA detect mga highly technical din po na mga dapat na i-audit nila? 536 02:09:00,460 --> 02:09:02,320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Gusto [unclear] ng COA 537 02:09:02,340 --> 02:09:17,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na mag-hire ng mga specialized fields of knowledge. Limitado po yung item or plantilia ng COA. Meron silang engineer pero limited talaga. 538 02:09:18,060 --> 02:09:32,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yes po. Thank you Madam Chair, Madam Speaker. Ang punto ko po kasi, alam naman natin kung how the government processes have become increasingly complex. 539 02:09:32,340 --> 02:09:59,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: complex sa panahon ngayon. And dagdag re-require din po ito na matugunan natin ng personnel who have the expertise. Halimbawa sa mga infrastructure projects, meron po ba tayo dyan sapat na mga ingeniero, arkitekto, siguro kasama pa yung mga financial analysts, tama po ba ang presyong ito? 540 02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:15,780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi ako po naniniwala kung sapat po yung ating personnel, ang know-how ng ating personnel, ang kanilang experience, ang kanilang expertise, mabilis tayong gumawa, may teknolohiya tayo, mas mabilis po nating magagawa ang audit. 541 02:10:15,780 --> 02:10:28,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ang tanong ko po sa COA, through the years, alam nyo po ito, ang sagot nyo po, wala kayong enough personnel, nag-request na po ba tayo sa DBM ng additional plantilia items? 542 02:10:28,900 --> 02:10:32,720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Para matugunan natin ang gap na pong ito? 543 02:10:33,660 --> 02:10:41,140 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: The COA family fully agrees with you, Madam Interpellator. 544 02:10:44,580 --> 02:10:50,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Have you requested the DBM about the plantilia items that you need? 545 02:10:54,860 --> 02:10:58,860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes, the COA requested the DBM about the... 546 02:10:58,900 --> 02:11:02,040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: plantilia items. 547 02:11:05,660 --> 02:11:08,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po, madam speaker. 548 02:11:09,460 --> 02:11:21,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pagdating naman po sa effectiveness natin, ilang corruption-related audit findings nag-resulta po sa aktual na kaso o sanction noong 2025 na lamang po? 549 02:11:43,300 --> 02:11:45,800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Thank you for asking that, madam tripulator. 550 02:11:47,740 --> 02:11:53,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Because that really ring a bell to our nation. 551 02:11:55,440 --> 02:12:03,100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung ginawa ng COA, arising from that scandal, 552 02:12:04,580 --> 02:12:07,540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Nagpile ng COA ng fraud audit. 553 02:12:07,860 --> 02:12:09,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Nagawa ng fraud audit. 554 02:12:09,680 --> 02:12:19,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At itong audit nila, yun ang ginawang basis or basihan para ma-file yun sa Ombudsman. 555 02:12:20,240 --> 02:12:24,840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, more or less, about... 556 02:12:28,900 --> 02:12:45,860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Bulacan alone, the epicenter of the, Bulacan alone, mga 50 cases, criminal cases, ang na-submit sa Ombudsman. 557 02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:50,160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 558 02:12:53,160 --> 02:12:58,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Paano po nasisiguran ng COA na ang mga audit reports na ginagawa nito? 559 02:12:58,900 --> 02:13:04,800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ay ano po ang sukatan na ginagamit na talagang nakakapagbawas tayo ng corruption sa gobyerno? 560 02:13:05,140 --> 02:13:06,680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: May sukatan po ba ang COA? 561 02:13:07,020 --> 02:13:11,600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: How do you say that COA has been effective in decreasing corruption? 562 02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:14,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Anong metrics po ang ginagamit natin? 563 02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:27,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung, ah, 564 02:13:28,220 --> 02:13:28,880 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: from the first, 565 02:13:28,900 --> 02:13:34,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: first step of COA's, ah, how do you call it, auditing process. 566 02:13:35,180 --> 02:13:37,160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Isang ahensya po, ah, 567 02:13:37,940 --> 02:13:39,800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: upon COA's knowledge, ah, 568 02:13:41,020 --> 02:13:41,780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: merong, ano, 569 02:13:42,140 --> 02:13:47,060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: something's not right, so, 570 02:13:47,700 --> 02:13:50,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: gawan po na rin, ano yan, ah, 571 02:13:51,180 --> 02:13:55,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: audit, EOM, audit observation memorandum. 572 02:13:55,800 --> 02:13:56,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, 573 02:13:56,120 --> 02:13:58,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: the agency concerned, 574 02:13:58,900 --> 02:14:00,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kapat, ano siya, ah, 575 02:14:00,900 --> 02:14:04,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: he has to reply or respond to the EOM. 576 02:14:05,900 --> 02:14:11,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pag ano, ah, na-satisfactory yung ano nila, ah, answer or respond, 577 02:14:11,900 --> 02:14:13,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: issue na po ng notice of 578 02:14:14,900 --> 02:14:16,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: disallowance, no? 579 02:14:16,900 --> 02:14:19,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Itong transaction na ito is disallowed. 580 02:14:19,900 --> 02:14:24,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tapos, after notice of disallowance, ah, 581 02:14:28,900 --> 02:14:36,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung, ah, 582 02:14:36,900 --> 02:14:48,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: if he cannot answer, ah, yung notice of disallowance, ah, so, yun, ah, papuntang ombudsman na yung, ano. 583 02:14:48,900 --> 02:14:50,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. 584 02:14:50,900 --> 02:14:57,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ahm, kasi halimbawa po may mga pagkakataon na discovery ng COA, isang malaking, ah, ah, 585 02:14:57,900 --> 02:14:59,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: um, anomalya. 586 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:10,020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Halimbawa po, paano, anong ginagawa niya, paano nagko-coordinate halimbawa sa Ombudsman, sa DOJ, o kaya sa Kongreso para ma-flag down. 587 02:15:10,020 --> 02:15:26,360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, di ba dapat ang Kongreso, in the exercise of its oversight function, makita yun para hindi naaabot ng matagal, ma-flag down na rin yung programang yun na nagkaroon ng anomalya. 588 02:15:43,000 --> 02:16:06,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung report po ng COA ay nabibigyan po ng kopya yung House of Representatives, annual reports. At saka yung mga kaso na umabot ng Ombudsman, the COA personnel or auditors, 589 02:16:06,980 --> 02:16:11,160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sila po yung stand as witness for the prosecution. 590 02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:19,260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung annual audit reports, kailan po yan sinusubite ng COA sa Kongreso? 591 02:16:19,260 --> 02:16:27,260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Because, you know, in the past, I worked in the House of Representatives for more than three decades. 592 02:16:28,020 --> 02:16:29,260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Dati po, automatic. 593 02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:36,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yan, pinapadala sa mga opisina. Kahit agency annual reports, accomplishment reports, meron. 594 02:16:37,400 --> 02:16:43,800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pero, itong mga recent, in the recent past, wala pong napapadala ang COA. 595 02:16:44,440 --> 02:16:47,000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Hindi ko po alam kung saan ninyo sa Kongreso yung sinasubmit. 596 02:16:48,100 --> 02:16:53,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Usually, I check sa website, budget hearing na po, wala pa yung annual audit report. 597 02:16:53,960 --> 02:16:58,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I already mentioned this during the committee hearings, kasi ang sinasabi ko po, napakahalaga. 598 02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:08,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang annual audit reports ng COA para matulungan nyo ang Kongreso sa pag-exercise ng oversight function 599 02:17:08,860 --> 02:17:15,300 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at para mabusisi ng gusto yung budget ng mga ahensya. Matutulungan nyo po kami. 600 02:17:15,300 --> 02:17:25,540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ang annual audit report dito sa Kongreso is within one month from June 30 to hanggang July. 601 02:17:26,700 --> 02:17:29,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, ang opisina na binibigyan, 602 02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:35,040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: po, ng hard copy, ay ang opisina po ng Speaker of the House. 603 02:17:35,620 --> 02:17:37,640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Madam Chair. 604 02:17:38,160 --> 02:17:39,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Last question na lamang po. 605 02:17:40,040 --> 02:17:42,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: [unclear], Committee on Appropriations Chair. 606 02:17:43,580 --> 02:17:44,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. 607 02:17:45,300 --> 02:17:49,540 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Huling question na lamang po, on transparency naman po ito and accessibility. 608 02:17:50,340 --> 02:17:58,000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Paano po natin nasisiguro na ang, yung mga audit reports din, ay madaling ma-access ng publiko? 609 02:17:58,000 --> 02:17:59,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung ako nga po, medyo hirap. 610 02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:00,660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nang konti. 611 02:18:00,980 --> 02:18:02,480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Paano pa po yung publiko? 612 02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:11,100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Paano ito madaling ma-access ng publiko, ng civil society, para magsilbing dagdag na bantay laban sa korupsyon? 613 02:18:15,440 --> 02:18:23,100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: For example, Madam, yung for year 25, example lang ito. 614 02:18:24,880 --> 02:18:29,680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito po ay available sa COA website on October 615 02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:32,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 31, 2026. 616 02:18:33,220 --> 02:18:34,260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, ngayon, wala pa. 617 02:18:35,560 --> 02:18:38,100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: October 31, 2026. 618 02:18:38,400 --> 02:18:40,060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Andiyan na po yan sa COA website. 619 02:18:40,500 --> 02:18:48,780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung annual audit report ng COA sa current, yung previous year, 2025. 620 02:18:49,780 --> 02:18:51,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, yun po. 621 02:18:51,120 --> 02:18:58,480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: I think mga 10 months, 10 months after sa previous year. 622 02:18:59,280 --> 02:18:59,980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you. 623 02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:06,180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Siguro po, yun lamang ang aking mga katanungan. 624 02:19:06,540 --> 02:19:10,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nais ko lang po sabihin sa huling na sa bawat pisong nasasayang sa korupsyon, 625 02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:14,600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: isang Pilipino ang nawawalan ng servisyong dapat sa kanya. 626 02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:18,760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung tunay nating nais nawakasan ang kultura ng katiwalian, 627 02:19:19,180 --> 02:19:22,780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: dapat nating tiyakin na ang COA ay may sapat na lakas, 628 02:19:23,220 --> 02:19:29,080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sapat na tao, at sapat na integridad upang bantayan ang bawat sentimo 629 02:19:29,080 --> 02:19:29,980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ng kaban ng bayan. 630 02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:36,000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sa ganitong paraan natin, maipapakita sa sambayanan na ang gobyerno ay seryoso 631 02:19:36,620 --> 02:19:41,800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: laban sa korupsyon at ang tiwala ng taong bayan ay tunay na mahalaga. 632 02:19:42,300 --> 02:19:46,580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor at sa COA po. 633 02:19:48,000 --> 02:19:48,960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 634 02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:55,540 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Toby M. Tiangco 635 02:19:55,540 --> 02:19:59,980 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: of the Lone District of Navotas to interpellate on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. 636 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:03,420 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Tiangco is recognized. Please proceed. 637 02:20:05,920 --> 02:20:10,220 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, I commend po the job that the COA is doing 638 02:20:10,220 --> 02:20:16,140 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: para po masiguradong maayos po yung gastos ng pera ng ating mga kababayan. 639 02:20:16,660 --> 02:20:19,760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, ang unang tanong ko po is, 640 02:20:20,660 --> 02:20:25,420 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang audit po ng COA is based on the calendar year, no? 641 02:20:26,060 --> 02:20:29,000 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: The end of December 31 of every year. Tama po ba? 642 02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:32,060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes, sir. 643 02:20:34,160 --> 02:20:38,540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kailan naman po ang deadline ng paglabas ng audit report? 644 02:20:39,480 --> 02:20:46,160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: For example po, yung December 31, 2025, kailan po ang deadline ng paglabas ng audit report niya? 645 02:20:53,620 --> 02:20:58,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: To be specific, Distinguished Interpellator, 646 02:20:58,960 --> 02:20:59,920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung sa... 647 02:20:59,920 --> 02:21:04,360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: completion of audit report ng ahensya, June 30. 648 02:21:05,420 --> 02:21:08,140 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, at ito yung after June 30, 649 02:21:09,020 --> 02:21:12,540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ibigay po ito sa RAS, sa House, 650 02:21:13,260 --> 02:21:14,860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Speaker, saka sa APRO. 651 02:21:15,620 --> 02:21:20,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Then, yung publication niya is October 31. 652 02:21:21,500 --> 02:21:26,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yun po ang petsa under the GAA, General Appropriation Act. 653 02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:29,840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Okay. So, kaya po, as of now, wala pa po. 654 02:21:29,920 --> 02:21:32,300 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi pa po napapublish ng COA 655 02:21:32,300 --> 02:21:35,680 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: yung audit report ng House of Representatives. Tama po ba? 656 02:21:36,380 --> 02:21:37,160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Hindi pa po. 657 02:21:37,880 --> 02:21:39,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero meron ng kopya tayo. 658 02:21:39,640 --> 02:21:41,280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: We have an advance copy. 659 02:21:41,580 --> 02:21:42,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung House. 660 02:21:43,860 --> 02:21:44,300 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Okay. 661 02:21:45,820 --> 02:21:48,860 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ngayon, dito po sa House of Representatives, 662 02:21:48,860 --> 02:21:50,220 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang congressman po, 663 02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:54,540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: yung mga gastos po natin sa distrito, 664 02:21:55,320 --> 02:21:58,800 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: alam naman po natin yan is liquidation by certification po yan. 665 02:21:58,920 --> 02:21:59,380 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po ba? 666 02:21:59,920 --> 02:22:03,320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes, po. 667 02:22:04,020 --> 02:22:06,320 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: At yan po ay pinapayagan po ng COA. 668 02:22:06,720 --> 02:22:07,220 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po. 669 02:22:11,260 --> 02:22:17,680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pursuant to COA Circular 89-300 of 1989, 670 02:22:18,660 --> 02:22:22,400 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito po ang ginagamit na basihan at pinapayagan po. 671 02:22:25,820 --> 02:22:26,540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ngayon. 672 02:22:28,340 --> 02:22:29,540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, ang... 673 02:22:29,920 --> 02:22:31,440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: M-O-O-E 674 02:22:31,440 --> 02:22:33,640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng bawat congressman 675 02:22:33,640 --> 02:22:37,340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: maging party list o district representatives 676 02:22:37,340 --> 02:22:39,920 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: dahil may gastusin po sila sa kanilang opisina, 677 02:22:40,020 --> 02:22:40,920 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: kung saan po umuan yan, 678 02:22:41,880 --> 02:22:43,840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ay dapat pantay-pantay. 679 02:22:43,980 --> 02:22:44,500 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po ba? 680 02:22:45,800 --> 02:22:46,600 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, ibig sabihin, 681 02:22:46,600 --> 02:22:48,860 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: kung 316 po 682 02:22:48,860 --> 02:22:51,680 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang congressman dito, 683 02:22:52,420 --> 02:22:54,740 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: so pagbasihan po natin yung 2024 684 02:22:54,740 --> 02:22:56,040 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: tsaka 2023, 685 02:22:57,300 --> 02:22:58,560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: base po ba 686 02:22:58,560 --> 02:22:59,760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: doon sa 687 02:22:59,760 --> 02:23:01,680 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: audit 688 02:23:01,680 --> 02:23:03,560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng resident auditor 689 02:23:03,560 --> 02:23:04,860 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng COA, 690 02:23:06,100 --> 02:23:07,580 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang specific na tanong ko 691 02:23:07,580 --> 02:23:10,600 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: is ang bawat congressman ba 692 02:23:10,600 --> 02:23:12,560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ay pare-pareho 693 02:23:12,560 --> 02:23:14,920 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang natanggap na M-O-O-E 694 02:23:14,920 --> 02:23:17,840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: at walang mas malaki 695 02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:19,120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: at walang mas maliit. 696 02:23:19,300 --> 02:23:21,700 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Base po sa official 697 02:23:21,700 --> 02:23:22,720 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: COA 698 02:23:22,720 --> 02:23:25,840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: report ng 2024. 699 02:23:26,440 --> 02:23:27,540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: 2024 po muna. 700 02:23:28,640 --> 02:23:28,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah... 701 02:23:28,760 --> 02:23:31,280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Distinguished Interpolator, 702 02:23:32,220 --> 02:23:33,160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang tanong po 703 02:23:33,160 --> 02:23:33,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa 704 02:23:33,720 --> 02:23:37,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: question about 705 02:23:37,000 --> 02:23:38,140 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pantay-pantay, 706 02:23:38,900 --> 02:23:41,620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: hindi po may sagot 707 02:23:41,620 --> 02:23:42,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng COA, 708 02:23:42,980 --> 02:23:43,960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: discretion po 709 02:23:43,960 --> 02:23:46,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng house leadership 710 02:23:46,500 --> 02:23:47,520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or house speaker. 711 02:23:49,200 --> 02:23:50,200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Hindi po 712 02:23:50,200 --> 02:23:52,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa level ng COA yung mga 713 02:23:52,240 --> 02:23:53,740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pagbibigay ng 714 02:23:53,740 --> 02:23:57,280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pagbibigay ng mga 715 02:23:57,280 --> 02:23:57,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: tawag na? 716 02:23:58,760 --> 02:23:59,760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: M-O-O-E. 717 02:24:00,020 --> 02:24:01,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, M-O-O-E, yeah. 718 02:24:01,220 --> 02:24:02,560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi, liliwanagin ko po muna 719 02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:03,120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: yung tanong ko. 720 02:24:04,460 --> 02:24:06,240 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, base po sa sagot ninyo, 721 02:24:06,900 --> 02:24:08,080 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: hindi po pantay, 722 02:24:08,200 --> 02:24:08,880 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: tama po ba 723 02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:11,500 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: na hindi po pantay-pantay 724 02:24:11,500 --> 02:24:12,980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang M-O-O-E 725 02:24:12,980 --> 02:24:14,160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng lahat ng congressman? 726 02:24:14,260 --> 02:24:14,880 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po ba yan? 727 02:24:15,580 --> 02:24:17,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, sa kadahilanan, 728 02:24:18,200 --> 02:24:18,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: may mga... 729 02:24:19,940 --> 02:24:20,880 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi, una po, 730 02:24:21,020 --> 02:24:21,780 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: tama po ba na 731 02:24:21,780 --> 02:24:23,060 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: base po sa 732 02:24:23,060 --> 02:24:26,120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: 2024 audit report, 733 02:24:27,220 --> 02:24:28,740 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: hindi po pantay-pantay, 734 02:24:28,760 --> 02:24:30,480 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang M-O-O-E 735 02:24:30,480 --> 02:24:32,460 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng lahat ng congressman. Tama po ba? 736 02:24:33,800 --> 02:24:34,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Are 2024 737 02:24:34,660 --> 02:24:36,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: prior years? 738 02:24:38,060 --> 02:24:39,400 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi, yung 2024 po muna. 739 02:24:39,660 --> 02:24:41,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung 2024 audit lang po muna, 740 02:24:42,980 --> 02:24:44,000 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: base po sa sagot nyo, 741 02:24:44,120 --> 02:24:45,060 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: sinasabi nyo po 742 02:24:45,060 --> 02:24:47,800 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: na hindi po pantay-pantay 743 02:24:47,800 --> 02:24:49,140 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang M-O-O-E 744 02:24:49,140 --> 02:24:50,300 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng bawat congressman 745 02:24:50,300 --> 02:24:52,060 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: dahil yan po ay discretion 746 02:24:52,060 --> 02:24:54,080 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ng speaker. Tama po? 747 02:25:48,100 --> 02:25:53,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Okay, yung pong sa kanina, 748 02:25:53,660 --> 02:25:57,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Depende po kasi sa committee, chairmanship, membership, 749 02:25:58,160 --> 02:26:00,380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa activities ng isang distrito. 750 02:26:01,420 --> 02:26:06,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, kaya po na ganoon ang ano. 751 02:26:07,100 --> 02:26:09,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Depende po sa, for example, 752 02:26:11,260 --> 02:26:19,480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: may mga kongurgista na membro ng mga committees, ganoon. 753 02:26:19,480 --> 02:26:23,620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, ayun po, compared to iba naman na congressman, 754 02:26:23,660 --> 02:26:29,020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung iba matrabaho, yung iba hindi masyadong matrabaho. 755 02:26:31,700 --> 02:26:33,560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po. So, tinatanong ko lang po. 756 02:26:33,740 --> 02:26:35,540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, maliwanag na hindi po pare-pareho. 757 02:26:36,920 --> 02:26:38,820 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Okay. Next po. 758 02:26:42,320 --> 02:26:47,400 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ang allowed lang po ba ng certification by liquidation ay yung congressman 759 02:26:47,400 --> 02:26:50,340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: o may mga staff din ng congressman 760 02:26:50,340 --> 02:26:53,180 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: o staff ng House of Representatives 761 02:26:53,180 --> 02:26:55,760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: na allowed ng liquidation by certification? 762 02:26:56,320 --> 02:26:59,480 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ito po, ang pinag-uusapan po natin dito, Honorable Sponsor, 763 02:27:00,020 --> 02:27:03,640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ay yung audit report ng 2024 po. 764 02:27:04,380 --> 02:27:09,440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, congressman lang po ba ang pwede ng certification by liquidation 765 02:27:09,440 --> 02:27:13,740 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: o pati po staff ng House of Representatives 766 02:27:13,740 --> 02:27:20,640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: o staff ng congressman ay allowed ng certification by liquidation? 767 02:27:21,000 --> 02:27:23,160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: O strictly, yung congressman lang po ba? 768 02:27:23,180 --> 02:27:39,140 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung pong hindi congressman o hindi representante, hindi po sila allowed. 769 02:27:39,140 --> 02:27:48,020 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, maliwanag po, pag may nakita po ang COA na isang empleyado ng House of Representatives 770 02:27:48,020 --> 02:27:52,020 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: at o isang empleyado ng congressman, 771 02:27:53,180 --> 02:27:57,680 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: na hindi po nagsubmit ng mga resibo sa kanilang liquidation, 772 02:27:58,240 --> 02:27:59,940 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: eh magiging audit finding po ito. 773 02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:02,720 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po ba, Honorable Sponsor? 774 02:28:06,960 --> 02:28:08,220 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tama po. Tama po. 775 02:28:10,920 --> 02:28:11,520 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Okay. 776 02:28:23,180 --> 02:28:27,640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, since 2024 po ang pinakahuling may audit report, 777 02:28:40,440 --> 02:28:44,140 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: magkano po ang nagastos po ng House of Representatives 778 02:28:44,140 --> 02:28:51,900 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: sa supplies and materials noon pong 2024 base po sa COA audit report? 779 02:28:53,180 --> 02:28:58,740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, tignan po namin yung mga records pa. 780 02:29:03,940 --> 02:29:06,960 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, sa tingin ko po, habang hindi po sumasagot, 781 02:29:07,060 --> 02:29:09,280 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: hindi po dapat gumagalaw po yung ora. 782 02:29:09,700 --> 02:29:11,180 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Habang naghahanap silang sagot. 783 02:30:48,950 --> 02:30:57,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Chair, may I ask for a suspension while we are collecting the data for 2024? 784 02:30:57,640 --> 02:30:59,080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended. 785 02:31:52,600 --> 02:31:59,980 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. The sponsor is requested to respond to the query of the Honorable Tiangco. 786 02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:02,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 787 02:32:04,340 --> 02:32:06,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung 2024 788 02:32:06,240 --> 02:32:08,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: annual audit report 789 02:32:08,440 --> 02:32:09,380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: po ng COA, 790 02:32:10,920 --> 02:32:12,100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung tanong tungkol 791 02:32:12,100 --> 02:32:13,740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa supplies. So, 792 02:32:15,480 --> 02:32:16,360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung sa supplies, 793 02:32:16,580 --> 02:32:18,020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: meron po tayong nagasto 794 02:32:18,020 --> 02:32:20,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na 15.472 795 02:32:21,340 --> 02:32:22,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: million. 796 02:32:22,280 --> 02:32:24,960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 15,472,000. 797 02:32:25,560 --> 02:32:26,320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero yung kabuhuan 798 02:32:26,320 --> 02:32:27,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: po ng supplies, total supplies, 799 02:32:27,980 --> 02:32:28,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: no? 800 02:32:29,380 --> 02:32:29,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 84 801 02:32:30,000 --> 02:32:31,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: million 802 02:32:31,640 --> 02:32:34,960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 788,000 803 02:32:34,960 --> 02:32:36,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: for the year 2024. 804 02:32:36,980 --> 02:32:39,560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po yan. Doon po sa nakita ko, 805 02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:41,460 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: mukhang, sa inyo po, 806 02:32:41,560 --> 02:32:43,940 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: 84 million 788,000. 807 02:32:43,940 --> 02:32:45,620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po, Honorable 808 02:32:45,620 --> 02:32:46,940 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Sponsor? 809 02:32:48,200 --> 02:32:49,560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Doon po sa nakita ko, it's 810 02:32:49,560 --> 02:32:52,320 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: 84 million 790,000. 811 02:32:52,520 --> 02:32:53,800 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, maliit lang po, diferensya. 812 02:32:54,880 --> 02:32:55,760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Pero, yan po ang 813 02:32:55,760 --> 02:32:57,620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: nagastos. Tama po, Honorable 814 02:32:57,620 --> 02:32:58,140 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Sponsor? 815 02:32:58,920 --> 02:32:59,800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes, po. 816 02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:01,840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: As reflected in the record of 817 02:33:01,840 --> 02:33:03,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 2024. Yes. 818 02:33:03,820 --> 02:33:05,360 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Pero po, tama po ba 819 02:33:05,360 --> 02:33:08,160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: na ang budget na allocated 820 02:33:08,160 --> 02:33:09,480 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: po sa item na yan, 821 02:33:10,340 --> 02:33:11,960 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: base sa COA audit report, 822 02:33:12,560 --> 02:33:13,840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: ang inallocate po nating 823 02:33:13,840 --> 02:33:14,940 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: budget ay 824 02:33:14,940 --> 02:33:21,160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: P939,870,000. 825 02:33:22,300 --> 02:33:28,640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: P939,870,000. 826 02:33:30,000 --> 02:33:30,940 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po. 827 02:33:33,340 --> 02:33:34,920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Chair, may I ask for another 828 02:33:34,920 --> 02:33:36,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: suspension while collecting the data? 829 02:33:37,860 --> 02:33:38,700 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended. 830 02:40:34,000 --> 02:40:49,580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. The sponsor may now respond to the queries of the Honorable Tiangco. 831 02:40:49,580 --> 02:40:58,200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: May I ask, ano po yung gist ng tanong ko? 832 02:40:58,200 --> 02:40:59,500 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ganito po, Honorable Sponsor, 833 02:40:59,660 --> 02:41:29,640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Dahil po doon sa COA report, halos magkatugma po tayo. Ang nagastos po sa supplies and materials for 2024, based sa COA audit report, is P84,790,000. Sa inyo po P84,788,000. Ang tanong ko po is doon sa COA report nakasulat po rin diyan magkano yung inallocate 834 02:41:29,660 --> 02:41:59,640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: magkano po yung binudget ng House for supplies and materials for that year. Yun po yung aking tanong. So doon po sa COA audit report nila, magkano po ang naka-indicate na binudget? Kasi mahalaga yan, pag nag-budget tayo pinagkukumpara po ng COA kung nagastos po lahat dahil hindi naman tayo pwedeng sumobra ng gastos doon sa inallocate nating pondo. 835 02:41:59,660 --> 02:42:29,640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Kaya ang tanong ko po, magkano po ang naka-allocate na budget for supplies and materials for 2024 based doon sa COA report of 2024? Yun po, Mr. Sponsor. 836 02:42:29,660 --> 02:42:59,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Interpellator. Itong mga katanungan regarding 2024 budget, and you have a copy also. So [unclear] po ito lahat. 837 02:42:59,660 --> 02:43:29,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: It is reflected na yung tinatanong ninyo po ay, we are basing the same answer and questions sa annual audit report of 2024. So far as per record andiyan naman yan. 838 02:43:29,660 --> 02:43:46,920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So more or less P939 million po. P939 million as reflected sa annual audit report. 839 02:43:46,920 --> 02:43:59,640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: O tama po yan. So yun nga po, doon sa annual audit report, ang naka-reflect po is sa supplies and materials ang naka-budget po is 840 02:43:59,660 --> 02:44:29,640 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: P939,870,000, ngunit ang nagastos lang is P84,790,000. Ngayon po, punta po tayo sa utilities. Confirm na lang po ng COA doon sa kanilang COA audit report: ang budget po sa utilities is P854 million pero ang nagastos lang po is P113 million more or less. Tama po ba? 841 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:16,480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Okay, Madam Speaker, so far as Annual Audit Report 2024 is reflection of the budget. 842 02:45:30,000 --> 02:45:35,380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung utility expenses. Ito ba? Utility expenses? 843 02:45:35,500 --> 02:45:35,980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Opo, opo. 844 02:45:38,440 --> 02:45:42,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ang kabuwang budget po ay 854. 845 02:45:42,800 --> 02:45:43,220 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po. 846 02:45:43,300 --> 02:45:43,760 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: More or less. 847 02:45:44,240 --> 02:45:44,620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tama po. 848 02:45:45,480 --> 02:45:48,520 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Ang nagastos po is 113 million. Tama po ba? 849 02:45:49,600 --> 02:45:50,060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes po. 850 02:45:50,060 --> 02:45:56,140 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Okay. So doon pa lang sa supplies and materials. 851 02:45:58,500 --> 02:45:59,980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: For 2024. 852 02:46:00,260 --> 02:46:01,380 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Based on the audit report. 853 02:46:02,100 --> 02:46:08,360 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Merong hindi nagastos na 855 million. 854 02:46:08,660 --> 02:46:11,420 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: At doon po sa 2024 utilities. 855 02:46:11,600 --> 02:46:16,120 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Meron pong hindi nagastos na 741 million. 856 02:46:16,380 --> 02:46:18,080 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So ang sunod na tanong ko po. 857 02:46:18,800 --> 02:46:24,080 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Saan po dinala itong savings na ito? 858 02:46:25,140 --> 02:46:28,440 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Yung 855 million. 859 02:46:28,780 --> 02:46:29,980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: 80,000. 860 02:46:30,100 --> 02:46:32,160 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Tsaka yung 741 million. 861 02:46:33,360 --> 02:46:34,620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So hindi po nagastos yan. 862 02:46:35,320 --> 02:46:36,540 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Saan po nilipat yan? 863 02:46:36,720 --> 02:46:37,360 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Nagastusin. 864 02:46:39,100 --> 02:46:42,280 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Base po doon sa 2024 COA Audit Report. 865 02:48:00,000 --> 02:48:29,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung pong tanong, ang trabaho po ng COA ay nag-a-audit po ng mga nagastos, what is being spent. Then kung saan po man nadala iyon, hindi na po alam ng COA yan. 866 02:48:30,000 --> 02:48:47,920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: That is, hindi nila alam. So ang na-audit nila, yung nagastos. So whatever savings or saan man napunta, hindi alam ng COA. 867 02:48:47,920 --> 02:48:59,980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Sa tingin ko po dapat alam po ng COA kung saan nilipat iyon dahil gagastusin po ulit iyon eh. So bago gastusin iyon, 868 02:49:00,000 --> 02:49:18,920 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: kailangan pong i-realign iyon. So siguro po dapat po makita iyon. 869 02:49:18,920 --> 02:49:29,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ganito na lang po siguro, ang atin pong pinag-usapan ngayon ay ang buong budget ng COA. We are here to seek our support. 870 02:49:30,000 --> 02:49:59,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Matters of the budget of the House as early as 2024, 2023. To be fair with COA, andiyan naman yung report nila, binigay na nila. If we have some speculation, suspicion, it?s not fair for COA sila yung pananagutin 871 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:29,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kung saan man napunta ang pera. But for us here is to? they?re doing their job, andiyan naman yan as reflected sa annual audit report. Wala namang tinatago diyan, open naman yan. But to subject them to speculation, hindi na kasali ang COA diyan. 872 02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:59,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Distinguished Interpellator, iyon po ang stand namin para ipaglaban natin yung COA. I think it?s no longer fair for them na tinatanong tayo tungkol sa budget ng House. Tayo ang dapat nakaalam, bakit ibang ahensya pa? This is our House, this is our budget. Dapat COA ginagawa nila ang trabaho nila. 873 02:51:00,000 --> 02:51:10,600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung mga tanong nandiyan sa annual audit report. 874 02:51:10,600 --> 02:51:29,980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, Honorable Sponsor, wala po akong duda, hindi ko pinagdududahan yung COA. Hindi po ako nags-speculate, in fact full support po ako sa budget ng COA for the record. So wala pong tanong doon. Ito pong tanong ko ay base po sa annual 875 02:51:30,000 --> 02:51:59,980 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: audit report nila na katungkulan nilang gawin. So sa tingin ko po wala pong masama doon sa mga tanong natin. Anyway, susunod na lang po doon sa extraordinary and miscellaneous expenses ng House, ang naka-budget po sa 2024 is P1.7 billion. Tama po? Tama po. 876 02:52:00,000 --> 02:52:04,080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Chair, may I ask for a suspension? 877 02:52:04,080 --> 02:52:09,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended. So the distinguished sponsor can confer with the agency. 878 02:57:42,000 --> 02:57:44,000 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. 879 02:57:46,000 --> 02:57:48,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Okay. 880 02:57:50,000 --> 02:57:52,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Speaker, 881 02:57:54,000 --> 02:57:56,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: as far as 882 02:57:56,000 --> 02:57:58,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 2024 883 02:57:58,000 --> 02:58:00,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: budget is concerned, 884 02:58:00,000 --> 02:58:08,100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Andiyan naman sabi ko kanina, andiyan naman po niyan sa pabisayos na po niyan, lahat, open naman, transparent. 885 02:58:09,160 --> 02:58:15,080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Para hindi po tayo masasayang ng panahon, ayaw ko na pong mag-respond. 886 02:58:15,760 --> 02:58:22,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Any questions regarding the house, mga expenses for 2024? 887 02:58:22,760 --> 02:58:37,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kung meron namang gustong itanong ang Distinguished Interpolator, pwede ba pakisulat na lang at itanong na lang natin sa proper authorities or proper office po. 888 02:58:38,040 --> 02:58:42,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Iyon lang po ang buong kasagutan ng Distinguished Interpolator. 889 02:58:44,100 --> 02:58:52,060 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, alam niyo po, yung mga katanungan ay tungkol po sa audit report ng COA. 890 02:58:52,760 --> 02:58:56,340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, mandato po ng COA yan, kasama po sa mandato ng COA yan. 891 02:58:56,960 --> 02:59:03,500 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Pero kung ayaw na pong sumagot ng Distinguished Sponsor sa kahit anong katanungan, wala naman po tayong magagawa. 892 02:59:03,500 --> 02:59:07,380 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Then, hinto na po tayo sa pagtatanong kung ayaw na pong sumagot. 893 02:59:07,740 --> 02:59:08,880 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Iyon lang po, Madam Speaker. 894 02:59:11,220 --> 02:59:12,240 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Thank you po. Thank you. 895 02:59:15,640 --> 02:59:17,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Does the Honorable Chanko have further questions? 896 02:59:17,900 --> 02:59:22,620 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Wala na po, kasi sinabi na po ng ating sponsor na hindi na po siya sasagot sa kahit anong tanong. 897 02:59:22,760 --> 02:59:27,320 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: So, paano pa po ako mag-tatanong kung iyon po ang desisyon? 898 02:59:27,440 --> 02:59:29,560 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Hindi na rin po ako pwede magtanong, Madam Speaker. 899 02:59:31,260 --> 02:59:36,460 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: I believe the Distinguished Sponsor is actually willing to respond to questions. 900 02:59:36,460 --> 02:59:46,820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: And for the other queries of the Honorable Chanko, the Commission on Audit Family is hereby requested to submit all the documents that he is requesting. 901 02:59:47,380 --> 02:59:48,080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader? 902 02:59:52,760 --> 02:59:55,100 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, 903 02:59:56,100 --> 02:59:59,960 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: I move that we 904 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:01,820 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: recognize the Honorable 905 03:00:01,820 --> 03:00:08,180 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Robert Nazal of Partylist 906 03:00:08,180 --> 03:00:09,440 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: BH 907 03:00:09,440 --> 03:00:12,280 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Robert Nazal 908 03:00:12,280 --> 03:00:14,480 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is hereby recognized for his interpellation. 909 03:00:18,820 --> 03:00:20,320 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, I withdraw 910 03:00:20,320 --> 03:00:20,960 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: my motion. 911 03:00:22,100 --> 03:00:23,260 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker, dagdag na lang po. 912 03:00:24,400 --> 03:00:26,340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Liliwanagin ko lang po. I fully support 913 03:00:26,340 --> 03:00:27,520 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: the budget. Before that, 914 03:00:27,520 --> 03:00:27,960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the Honorable 915 03:00:27,960 --> 03:00:29,180 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Chanko is recognized. 916 03:00:29,180 --> 03:00:32,480 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Liliwanagin ko lang po. I fully support 917 03:00:32,480 --> 03:00:33,840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: the budget of 918 03:00:33,840 --> 03:00:35,340 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: the COA. Yun lang po. 919 03:00:36,240 --> 03:00:37,840 Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco: Madam Speaker. Thank you. Thank you po. Salamat. 920 03:00:38,220 --> 03:00:39,100 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Maraming salamat. 921 03:00:39,880 --> 03:00:40,660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 922 03:00:42,500 --> 03:00:44,580 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize 923 03:00:44,580 --> 03:00:46,360 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: the Honorable Sarah Jane Elago 924 03:00:46,360 --> 03:00:48,420 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: of the Partylist Gabriela 925 03:00:48,420 --> 03:00:50,380 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: to interpellate on the proposed budget 926 03:00:50,380 --> 03:00:52,220 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: of the Commission on Audit. 927 03:00:52,300 --> 03:00:54,260 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela 928 03:00:54,260 --> 03:00:56,680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Women's Partylist is hereby recognized 929 03:00:56,680 --> 03:00:57,660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: for interpellation. 930 03:00:59,180 --> 03:01:01,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. 931 03:01:02,980 --> 03:01:05,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Unang-una tungkol sa paggamit 932 03:01:05,160 --> 03:01:06,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Gender and Development 933 03:01:06,560 --> 03:01:08,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Fund. 934 03:01:09,100 --> 03:01:10,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang Magna Carta of Women 935 03:01:10,600 --> 03:01:13,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: or Republic Act No. 9710 936 03:01:13,240 --> 03:01:15,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang nagpapatibay 937 03:01:15,500 --> 03:01:16,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa legal 938 03:01:16,460 --> 03:01:17,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at 939 03:01:17,920 --> 03:01:20,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pampalisiya na pundasyon 940 03:01:20,780 --> 03:01:23,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa gender mainstreaming 941 03:01:23,040 --> 03:01:25,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Pilipinas. 942 03:01:25,900 --> 03:01:27,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: A cornerstone 943 03:01:27,100 --> 03:01:28,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of this law is Section 944 03:01:28,840 --> 03:01:30,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 36A, which 945 03:01:30,660 --> 03:01:32,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mandates all government entities 946 03:01:32,780 --> 03:01:34,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to allocate at least 5% 947 03:01:34,760 --> 03:01:36,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of their total appropriations 948 03:01:36,600 --> 03:01:38,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to gender and development programs, 949 03:01:38,500 --> 03:01:40,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: activities, and projects to advance 950 03:01:40,740 --> 03:01:42,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gender equality and women's empowerment. 951 03:01:43,360 --> 03:01:44,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari po ba nating 952 03:01:44,780 --> 03:01:46,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: malaman mula sa COA 953 03:01:46,220 --> 03:01:48,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung meron na po ba kayong 954 03:01:48,480 --> 03:01:50,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na-issuhan halimbawa ng 955 03:01:50,440 --> 03:01:53,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: notice of disallowance 956 03:01:53,080 --> 03:01:54,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o meron po kayong 957 03:01:54,820 --> 03:01:56,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nilabas 958 03:01:56,840 --> 03:01:58,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na audit observation, 959 03:01:58,840 --> 03:01:59,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: memorandum, 960 03:02:00,520 --> 03:02:02,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o kaya meron ba kayong nakita 961 03:02:02,520 --> 03:02:05,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na potensyal na administrative 962 03:02:05,080 --> 03:02:06,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: liability 963 03:02:06,060 --> 03:02:08,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol sa paggamit ng 964 03:02:08,660 --> 03:02:10,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Gender and Development 965 03:02:10,160 --> 03:02:11,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Fund 966 03:02:11,860 --> 03:02:14,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o compliance ng ating mga government 967 03:02:14,860 --> 03:02:16,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agencies sa kanilang 968 03:02:16,580 --> 03:02:18,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gender and development mandate? 969 03:02:22,600 --> 03:02:23,920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: May I respond? 970 03:02:28,140 --> 03:02:28,660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Yeah, 971 03:02:28,660 --> 03:02:30,080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Distinguished Sponsor, please proceed. 972 03:02:30,340 --> 03:02:32,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Okay, yung tanong po na 973 03:02:32,980 --> 03:02:36,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kung meron na ba na-issuhan ng 974 03:02:36,640 --> 03:02:38,520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: AOM or 975 03:02:38,520 --> 03:02:40,620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: notice of disallowance tungkol 976 03:02:40,620 --> 03:02:42,020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa paggamit ng 977 03:02:42,020 --> 03:02:42,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: GAD. 978 03:02:44,760 --> 03:02:46,840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Meron na po in the past 979 03:02:46,840 --> 03:02:48,780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mga nakaraang taon, meron na po 980 03:02:48,780 --> 03:02:51,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kasi hindi po siya 981 03:02:51,120 --> 03:02:53,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sangayon sa guidelines 982 03:02:53,000 --> 03:02:54,680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na ini-issued ng 983 03:02:54,680 --> 03:02:56,680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Philippine 984 03:02:58,660 --> 03:03:00,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Commission on Women. 985 03:03:00,660 --> 03:03:04,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Meron na po. 986 03:03:04,660 --> 03:03:06,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, maali ba natin malaman 987 03:03:06,660 --> 03:03:08,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung ano po yung nature 988 03:03:08,660 --> 03:03:10,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nitong mga notice of disallowance, 989 03:03:10,660 --> 03:03:12,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: AOM, 990 03:03:12,660 --> 03:03:14,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o yung potential 991 03:03:14,660 --> 03:03:16,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na administrative liability? 992 03:03:16,660 --> 03:03:18,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ito po ba ay tungkol halimbawa 993 03:03:18,660 --> 03:03:20,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa diversion of funds? 994 03:03:20,660 --> 03:03:22,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Halimbawa, meron din po kasing 995 03:03:22,660 --> 03:03:24,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: observation ang Philippine Commission on Women 996 03:03:24,660 --> 03:03:26,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na tinatrato itong parang 997 03:03:26,660 --> 03:03:28,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: contingency or reserve funds. 998 03:03:28,440 --> 03:03:30,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: O kaya naman, 999 03:03:30,440 --> 03:03:32,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may kinalaman po ba ito sa 1000 03:03:32,440 --> 03:03:34,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bloating, 1001 03:03:34,440 --> 03:03:36,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: cost inflation? 1002 03:03:36,440 --> 03:03:38,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May kinalaman ba ito sa over-tagging? 1003 03:03:38,440 --> 03:03:40,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ibig sabihin po, 1004 03:03:40,440 --> 03:03:42,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagkalaki-laking mga pondo 1005 03:03:42,440 --> 03:03:44,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kanilang mga programa ang 1006 03:03:44,440 --> 03:03:46,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natatag bilang 1007 03:03:46,440 --> 03:03:48,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ginamit sa gender and development, 1008 03:03:48,440 --> 03:03:50,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: samantalang kung susuriin mo naman po 1009 03:03:50,440 --> 03:03:52,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano ito ginamit, 1010 03:03:52,440 --> 03:03:54,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay wala naman pong kinalaman 1011 03:03:54,440 --> 03:03:56,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa pagtitiyak ng 1012 03:03:56,440 --> 03:03:58,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: prinsipyo, halimbawa, ng Magna 1013 03:03:58,440 --> 03:04:00,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Carta of Women, o may kinalaman 1014 03:04:00,440 --> 03:04:02,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa prinsipyo ng tunguhin natin 1015 03:04:02,440 --> 03:04:04,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na gusto na pagkapantay-pantay, 1016 03:04:04,440 --> 03:04:06,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ito po ay hindi lang 1017 03:04:06,440 --> 03:04:08,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: magsisilbi sa mga kababaihan, 1018 03:04:08,440 --> 03:04:10,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kundi pati na rin sa mga kalalakihan 1019 03:04:10,440 --> 03:04:12,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa lahat ng kasarihan. 1020 03:04:20,440 --> 03:04:22,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Iyon po ang basihan 1021 03:04:22,440 --> 03:04:24,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na bakit po 1022 03:04:24,440 --> 03:04:28,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: merong audit observation, 1023 03:04:28,440 --> 03:04:30,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung paggamit ng 1024 03:04:30,440 --> 03:04:32,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: GAD, 1025 03:04:32,440 --> 03:04:34,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: GAD funds, 1026 03:04:34,440 --> 03:04:36,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: GAD na pondo, 1027 03:04:36,440 --> 03:04:38,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa kadahilanan 1028 03:04:38,440 --> 03:04:40,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na ito po ay 1029 03:04:42,440 --> 03:04:44,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: not in accordance sa 1030 03:04:44,440 --> 03:04:46,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: guidelines ng 1031 03:04:48,440 --> 03:04:50,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: PCW, 1032 03:04:50,440 --> 03:04:52,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Philippine Commission on Women. 1033 03:04:52,440 --> 03:04:54,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, iyon po ang 1034 03:04:54,440 --> 03:04:56,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: main reason, 1035 03:04:56,440 --> 03:04:58,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or 1036 03:04:58,440 --> 03:05:00,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: the gist of 1037 03:05:00,440 --> 03:05:02,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: the AOM. 1038 03:05:04,440 --> 03:05:06,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. 1039 03:05:06,440 --> 03:05:08,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po kasing halimbawa, 1040 03:05:08,440 --> 03:05:10,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron po tayong mga agencies 1041 03:05:10,440 --> 03:05:12,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at meron po tayong 1042 03:05:12,440 --> 03:05:14,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga 1043 03:05:14,440 --> 03:05:16,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga councils kung saan po 1044 03:05:16,440 --> 03:05:18,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang tagged as 1045 03:05:18,440 --> 03:05:20,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: utilized for the integration 1046 03:05:20,440 --> 03:05:22,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of gender and development. 1047 03:05:22,440 --> 03:05:24,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sing laki ng mga 1048 03:05:24,440 --> 03:05:26,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kalaking tipak ng pondo, halimbawa 1049 03:05:26,440 --> 03:05:28,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa DOLE, yung kanilang tupad 1050 03:05:28,440 --> 03:05:30,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na tagged na 1051 03:05:30,440 --> 03:05:32,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: integrated ang gender and development. 1052 03:05:32,440 --> 03:05:34,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero kung susuriin po natin 1053 03:05:34,440 --> 03:05:36,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano ba ito 1054 03:05:36,440 --> 03:05:38,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ibigay at 1055 03:05:38,440 --> 03:05:40,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na bigay na support na para 1056 03:05:40,440 --> 03:05:42,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga displaced workers, hindi naman po 1057 03:05:42,440 --> 03:05:44,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin makita kung paano 1058 03:05:44,440 --> 03:05:46,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: talagang na-integrate 1059 03:05:46,440 --> 03:05:48,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung prinsipyo ng pagtitiyak 1060 03:05:48,440 --> 03:05:50,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mas mataas na partisipasyon 1061 03:05:50,440 --> 03:05:52,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga kababaihan, o kung 1062 03:05:52,440 --> 03:05:54,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: paano ba matitiyak 1063 03:05:54,440 --> 03:05:56,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may particular 1064 03:05:56,440 --> 03:05:58,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: section dun sa 1065 03:05:58,440 --> 03:06:00,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: budget na 1066 03:06:00,440 --> 03:06:02,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nilalaan para sa mga kababaihan 1067 03:06:02,440 --> 03:06:04,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na walang trabaho o naghahanap ng trabaho. 1068 03:06:04,440 --> 03:06:06,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po ba sa ngayon 1069 03:06:06,440 --> 03:06:08,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na effort ang COA 1070 03:06:08,440 --> 03:06:10,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para maitulak 1071 03:06:10,440 --> 03:06:12,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mas malakas na 1072 03:06:12,440 --> 03:06:14,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagpapatupad ng guidelines na ito 1073 03:06:14,440 --> 03:06:16,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol sa gender and development 1074 03:06:16,440 --> 03:06:18,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: utilization? Mahalaga ito 1075 03:06:18,440 --> 03:06:20,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngayon, Madam Speaker, dahil 1076 03:06:20,440 --> 03:06:22,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron po tayong 1077 03:06:22,440 --> 03:06:24,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: panukala ngayon sa harap ng 1078 03:06:24,440 --> 03:06:26,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: House Committee on Women and Gender Equality 1079 03:06:26,440 --> 03:06:28,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nais at nagtutulak 1080 03:06:28,440 --> 03:06:30,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mas maitaas 1081 03:06:30,440 --> 03:06:32,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pa yung minimum na ginagastos 1082 03:06:32,440 --> 03:06:34,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: for GAD utilization. 1083 03:06:34,440 --> 03:06:36,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mahirap pong pag-usapan 1084 03:06:36,440 --> 03:06:38,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung pagtaas nito kung 1085 03:06:38,440 --> 03:06:40,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngayon pa lang dun sa minimum na 1086 03:06:40,440 --> 03:06:42,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 5%, ay hindi na po natin 1087 03:06:42,440 --> 03:06:44,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natitiyak na talagang nagagamit 1088 03:06:44,440 --> 03:06:46,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ito para sa layunin 1089 03:06:46,440 --> 03:06:48,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na magsilbi para sa integration 1090 03:06:48,440 --> 03:06:50,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng gender and development. 1091 03:06:50,440 --> 03:06:52,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, tanong 1092 03:06:52,440 --> 03:06:54,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: po na meron bang effort 1093 03:06:54,440 --> 03:06:56,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or 1094 03:06:58,440 --> 03:07:00,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mga 1095 03:07:00,440 --> 03:07:02,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pagsusumikap ang COA 1096 03:07:02,440 --> 03:07:04,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: para matugunan 1097 03:07:04,440 --> 03:07:06,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang gender 1098 03:07:06,440 --> 03:07:08,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and 1099 03:07:08,440 --> 03:07:10,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: development budget. 1100 03:07:10,440 --> 03:07:12,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ang ginagawa po 1101 03:07:12,440 --> 03:07:14,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng COA, 1102 03:07:14,440 --> 03:07:16,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: lahat po ng ahensya 1103 03:07:16,440 --> 03:07:18,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng goberno, national 1104 03:07:18,440 --> 03:07:20,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: agencies, 1105 03:07:20,440 --> 03:07:22,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: local government units, 1106 03:07:22,440 --> 03:07:24,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: GOCCs, 1107 03:07:24,440 --> 03:07:26,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pati na mga 1108 03:07:26,440 --> 03:07:28,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: barangay. 1109 03:07:30,440 --> 03:07:32,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kanila po 1110 03:07:32,440 --> 03:07:34,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: itong 1111 03:07:34,440 --> 03:07:36,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: monitor, 1112 03:07:36,440 --> 03:07:38,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sinusubaybayan. 1113 03:07:38,440 --> 03:07:40,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Paano pinupunduhan o paano 1114 03:07:40,440 --> 03:07:42,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ginamit ang pundo 1115 03:07:42,440 --> 03:07:44,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng GAD? 1116 03:07:44,440 --> 03:07:46,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito po lahat, 1117 03:07:46,440 --> 03:07:48,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: nasa kanilang 1118 03:07:48,440 --> 03:07:50,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: report in their annual audit 1119 03:07:50,440 --> 03:07:52,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: reports. Mayroon po, 1120 03:07:52,440 --> 03:07:54,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mayroon talagang 1121 03:07:54,440 --> 03:07:56,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: komentaryo or about sa GAD 1122 03:07:56,440 --> 03:07:58,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kung nagagamit ba talaga nila 1123 03:07:58,440 --> 03:08:00,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: in accordance with the 1124 03:08:00,440 --> 03:08:02,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: guidelines of the PCW. 1125 03:08:02,440 --> 03:08:04,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat 1126 03:08:04,440 --> 03:08:06,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker at 1127 03:08:06,440 --> 03:08:08,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang advisory po na ito 1128 03:08:08,440 --> 03:08:10,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay lumabas lang kasi nitong 1129 03:08:10,440 --> 03:08:12,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2025 at hangad natin na ang 1130 03:08:12,440 --> 03:08:14,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lahat ng mga agencies 1131 03:08:14,440 --> 03:08:16,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin, ang mga komisyon 1132 03:08:16,440 --> 03:08:18,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kabilang sa nagpalakas 1133 03:08:18,440 --> 03:08:20,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nitong guidelines para sa GAD 1134 03:08:20,440 --> 03:08:22,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: matiyak talaga na yung 1135 03:08:22,440 --> 03:08:24,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga implementers natin, 1136 03:08:24,440 --> 03:08:26,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga enforcers ay meron 1137 03:08:26,440 --> 03:08:28,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ding halimbawan training tungkol 1138 03:08:28,440 --> 03:08:30,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ano ba yung 1139 03:08:30,440 --> 03:08:32,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: prinsipyo ng gender and development 1140 03:08:32,440 --> 03:08:34,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hindi dapat 1141 03:08:34,440 --> 03:08:36,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natuturing nahiwalay yung 1142 03:08:36,440 --> 03:08:38,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: paggastos sa GAD, kundi integrated 1143 03:08:38,440 --> 03:08:40,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dun sa mga mayor na nilang 1144 03:08:40,440 --> 03:08:42,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga programa at mga 1145 03:08:42,440 --> 03:08:44,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mandato nila bilang mga 1146 03:08:44,440 --> 03:08:46,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agencies o mga komisyon. 1147 03:08:46,440 --> 03:08:48,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po, hihingi na lang po natin 1148 03:08:48,440 --> 03:08:50,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung buong ulat dito ng COA, 1149 03:08:50,440 --> 03:08:52,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at hangad po natin na makipagupuan din 1150 03:08:52,440 --> 03:08:54,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa PCW at sa 1151 03:08:54,440 --> 03:08:56,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga relevant agencies kung paano 1152 03:08:56,440 --> 03:08:58,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: matitiyak na ang 1153 03:08:58,440 --> 03:09:00,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: GAD utilization para po talaga sa GAD 1154 03:09:00,440 --> 03:09:02,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at hindi yung 1155 03:09:02,440 --> 03:09:04,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga pagpuna po sa ngayon 1156 03:09:04,440 --> 03:09:06,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakikita na lamang ito 1157 03:09:06,440 --> 03:09:08,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bilang pandagdag na pondo 1158 03:09:08,440 --> 03:09:10,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o kaya naman ay 1159 03:09:10,440 --> 03:09:12,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagagamit din 1160 03:09:12,440 --> 03:09:14,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dun sa mga wala namang kinalaman 1161 03:09:14,440 --> 03:09:16,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mga programa sa 1162 03:09:16,440 --> 03:09:18,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: GAD. Ngayon naman, 1163 03:09:18,440 --> 03:09:20,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, ngayon po ay 1164 03:09:20,440 --> 03:09:22,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: September 21, first year 1165 03:09:22,440 --> 03:09:24,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: anniversary nung Baha sa Luneta at 1166 03:09:24,440 --> 03:09:26,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Trilyon Peso March, kung saan 1167 03:09:26,440 --> 03:09:28,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagmarcha yung libo-libo nating 1168 03:09:28,440 --> 03:09:30,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga kababayan na nananawagan 1169 03:09:30,440 --> 03:09:32,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng transparency, 1170 03:09:32,440 --> 03:09:34,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: accountability, 1171 03:09:34,440 --> 03:09:36,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lahat ng sangkot sa korupsyon dapat 1172 03:09:36,440 --> 03:09:38,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: managot. At yung isa po 1173 03:09:38,440 --> 03:09:40,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga binabantayan 1174 03:09:40,440 --> 03:09:42,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating mga kababayan ay 1175 03:09:42,440 --> 03:09:44,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang paggamit ng confidential 1176 03:09:44,440 --> 03:09:46,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and intelligence funds. Para po 1177 03:09:46,440 --> 03:09:48,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa taong 2027, 1178 03:09:48,440 --> 03:09:50,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ilang agencies po ba ang may 1179 03:09:50,440 --> 03:09:52,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: confidential and intelligence funds? 1180 03:09:56,440 --> 03:09:58,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker po. 1181 03:09:58,440 --> 03:09:59,430 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 2027 po? 1182 03:09:59,430 --> 03:10:00,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes. 1183 03:10:00,440 --> 03:10:02,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: For the proposed 2027 budget. 1184 03:10:02,440 --> 03:10:04,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: For the proposed 1185 03:10:04,440 --> 03:10:06,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: itong budget natin ngayon? 1186 03:10:06,440 --> 03:10:08,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: For the next year, Madam Speaker. 1187 03:10:18,440 --> 03:10:24,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Madam Speaker, 1188 03:10:24,440 --> 03:10:26,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang COA po 1189 03:10:26,440 --> 03:10:28,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: as of now, 1190 03:10:28,440 --> 03:10:30,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ngayon po, 1191 03:10:30,440 --> 03:10:32,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: wala pa pong 1192 03:10:32,440 --> 03:10:34,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: data 1193 03:10:34,440 --> 03:10:36,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kung ilan mga 1194 03:10:36,440 --> 03:10:38,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ahensya ng goberno 1195 03:10:38,440 --> 03:10:40,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang merong confidential 1196 03:10:40,440 --> 03:10:42,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and intelligence funds 1197 03:10:42,440 --> 03:10:44,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: for next year, for 2027. 1198 03:10:44,440 --> 03:10:46,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Wala pa po. 1199 03:10:46,440 --> 03:10:48,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, ang pagmamahal 1200 03:10:48,440 --> 03:10:50,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pwede na lang po natin hingin ay 1201 03:10:50,440 --> 03:10:52,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung para sa 2025. 1202 03:10:52,440 --> 03:10:54,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ilang 1203 03:10:54,440 --> 03:10:56,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agencies po ba? Kasi 1204 03:10:56,440 --> 03:10:58,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa 2025 po, malamang po sa ngayon 1205 03:10:58,440 --> 03:11:00,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tapos na po lahat ng 1206 03:11:00,440 --> 03:11:02,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: reporting na may kinalaman 1207 03:11:02,440 --> 03:11:04,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa utilization. Yung 2025 1208 03:11:04,440 --> 03:11:06,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na lang po ang ating kunin. 1209 03:11:18,440 --> 03:11:22,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ... 1210 03:11:42,440 --> 03:11:44,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, Madam Speaker, 1211 03:11:44,440 --> 03:11:46,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa tanong po, 1212 03:11:46,440 --> 03:11:48,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: itong ilang 1213 03:11:48,440 --> 03:11:50,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ahensya ng goberno 1214 03:11:50,180 --> 03:11:52,460 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na merong intelligence 1215 03:11:52,460 --> 03:11:53,080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: fund? 1216 03:11:54,880 --> 03:11:55,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka 1217 03:11:55,340 --> 03:11:58,420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ilang ahensya 1218 03:11:58,420 --> 03:12:00,580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng goberno na merong confidential 1219 03:12:00,580 --> 03:12:01,260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: fund? 1220 03:12:02,180 --> 03:12:02,380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Okay. 1221 03:12:04,340 --> 03:12:06,320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito po yung sagot 1222 03:12:06,320 --> 03:12:07,200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: as to numbers. 1223 03:12:07,520 --> 03:12:10,520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung merong intelligence fund, 1224 03:12:11,520 --> 03:12:12,680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: meron po tayong 1225 03:12:12,680 --> 03:12:13,620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 38, 1226 03:12:13,920 --> 03:12:14,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 38, 1227 03:12:14,980 --> 03:12:15,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 38 1228 03:12:15,180 --> 03:12:18,800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: national agencies. 1229 03:12:20,720 --> 03:12:20,960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung 1230 03:12:20,960 --> 03:12:26,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 25 pala, 25. 1231 03:12:27,400 --> 03:12:28,260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 25, no? 1232 03:12:29,460 --> 03:12:30,800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito, 25 pala. 1233 03:12:30,900 --> 03:12:31,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito, 1234 03:12:31,320 --> 03:12:34,380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 25, [unclear], 1235 03:12:34,700 --> 03:12:37,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na ahensya ng national government 1236 03:12:37,120 --> 03:12:39,200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na merong intel fund. 1237 03:12:40,600 --> 03:12:41,320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung namang 1238 03:12:41,320 --> 03:12:43,020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: confidential fund 1239 03:12:43,020 --> 03:12:44,060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or confi fund, 1240 03:12:44,640 --> 03:12:45,160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: merong 1241 03:12:45,160 --> 03:12:46,480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 19 1242 03:12:46,480 --> 03:12:49,420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ahensya ng goberno. 1243 03:12:51,760 --> 03:12:52,140 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka, 1244 03:12:53,160 --> 03:12:53,960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: meron dito, 1245 03:12:54,920 --> 03:12:56,740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: merong intel fund 1246 03:12:56,740 --> 03:12:58,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and confi fund. 1247 03:12:59,580 --> 03:13:00,860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tatlong ahensya. 1248 03:13:02,740 --> 03:13:05,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. 1249 03:13:05,860 --> 03:13:07,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ihingin po natin yung listahan 1250 03:13:07,480 --> 03:13:08,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga 1251 03:13:08,980 --> 03:13:10,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agencies na ito. 1252 03:13:10,940 --> 03:13:12,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, mula po 2024, 1253 03:13:12,620 --> 03:13:13,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na 1254 03:13:13,380 --> 03:13:14,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nabusitin 1255 03:13:15,160 --> 03:13:15,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na rin po 1256 03:13:15,920 --> 03:13:16,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng taong bayan 1257 03:13:16,840 --> 03:13:18,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung tukol sa pagkakaroon 1258 03:13:18,100 --> 03:13:19,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng confidential funds 1259 03:13:19,560 --> 03:13:21,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at intelligence funds. 1260 03:13:21,400 --> 03:13:22,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na 1261 03:13:22,100 --> 03:13:23,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga civilian agencies 1262 03:13:23,360 --> 03:13:24,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na wala namang kinalaman 1263 03:13:24,820 --> 03:13:26,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa law enforcement, 1264 03:13:26,220 --> 03:13:26,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: investigation, 1265 03:13:27,400 --> 03:13:28,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at national security. 1266 03:13:28,740 --> 03:13:29,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ngayon po ba, 1267 03:13:29,540 --> 03:13:30,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may review na 1268 03:13:30,320 --> 03:13:32,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ginagawa ang COA 1269 03:13:32,000 --> 03:13:33,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano titiyakin 1270 03:13:33,720 --> 03:13:34,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na 1271 03:13:34,520 --> 03:13:36,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: magagamit 1272 03:13:36,740 --> 03:13:37,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng maayos 1273 03:13:37,400 --> 03:13:38,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itong CIF 1274 03:13:38,400 --> 03:13:39,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at yung proposals 1275 03:13:39,800 --> 03:13:40,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula rin po 1276 03:13:40,960 --> 03:13:42,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa representasyon na ito 1277 03:13:42,800 --> 03:13:44,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at maraming boses. 1278 03:13:44,140 --> 03:13:45,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi lang po dito 1279 03:13:45,760 --> 03:13:46,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa House of Representatives 1280 03:13:46,880 --> 03:13:49,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero sa ating civil society 1281 03:13:49,040 --> 03:13:50,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang nananawagan 1282 03:13:50,160 --> 03:13:51,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na dapat huwag 1283 03:13:51,200 --> 03:13:51,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng payagan 1284 03:13:51,960 --> 03:13:53,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga civilian 1285 03:13:53,100 --> 03:13:54,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agencies 1286 03:13:54,400 --> 03:13:55,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na gumamit 1287 03:13:55,660 --> 03:13:56,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng CIF 1288 03:13:56,420 --> 03:13:57,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil nga 1289 03:13:57,160 --> 03:13:58,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: napakalimitado lang 1290 03:13:58,440 --> 03:13:59,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng 1291 03:13:59,140 --> 03:14:00,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: transparency mechanism 1292 03:14:00,900 --> 03:14:01,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at 1293 03:14:01,580 --> 03:14:03,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: very limited po 1294 03:14:03,120 --> 03:14:04,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung 1295 03:14:04,160 --> 03:14:06,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung pagtitiyak 1296 03:14:06,860 --> 03:14:08,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na yung taong bayan mismo 1297 03:14:08,400 --> 03:14:09,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makapagbabantay 1298 03:14:09,620 --> 03:14:10,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga pondong ito 1299 03:14:10,880 --> 03:14:11,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil sa kanyang 1300 03:14:11,680 --> 03:14:12,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nature. 1301 03:14:14,140 --> 03:14:17,960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mayroon na pong 1302 03:14:17,960 --> 03:14:19,740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: speaker 1303 03:14:19,740 --> 03:14:20,740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang ginawang 1304 03:14:20,740 --> 03:14:22,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pag-aaral 1305 03:14:22,640 --> 03:14:23,080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or 1306 03:14:23,080 --> 03:14:24,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mungkahi 1307 03:14:24,300 --> 03:14:25,280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang 1308 03:14:25,280 --> 03:14:26,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: COA 1309 03:14:26,720 --> 03:14:29,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: together with 1310 03:14:29,180 --> 03:14:31,040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: [unclear] 1311 03:14:31,040 --> 03:14:33,280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Department of National Defense 1312 03:14:33,280 --> 03:14:34,280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: DILG 1313 03:14:34,280 --> 03:14:34,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and 1314 03:14:34,640 --> 03:14:35,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Government 1315 03:14:35,660 --> 03:14:36,840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Corporate 1316 03:14:36,840 --> 03:14:38,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: [unclear] 1317 03:14:38,180 --> 03:14:39,080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: so 1318 03:14:39,080 --> 03:14:41,200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ito po 1319 03:14:41,200 --> 03:14:41,700 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ay 1320 03:14:44,140 --> 03:14:44,800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: baguhin 1321 03:14:44,800 --> 03:14:45,540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: revised 1322 03:14:45,540 --> 03:14:47,160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: the use 1323 03:14:47,160 --> 03:14:48,080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: of 1324 03:14:48,080 --> 03:14:49,600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: confidential 1325 03:14:49,600 --> 03:14:50,920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and intelligence 1326 03:14:50,920 --> 03:14:51,460 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: funds. 1327 03:14:52,880 --> 03:14:54,200 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mayroon na po 1328 03:14:54,200 --> 03:14:55,060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yun po ang 1329 03:14:55,060 --> 03:14:56,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mga 1330 03:14:56,300 --> 03:14:57,160 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: observation 1331 03:14:57,160 --> 03:14:59,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na ginagawa 1332 03:14:59,240 --> 03:14:59,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or 1333 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:09,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mga effort ng COA ngayon na baguhin ang guidelines sa paggamit ng confidential and intelligence funds. 1334 03:15:10,080 --> 03:15:16,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, kailan po ilalabas itong revised guidelines on the use of Confidential and Intelligence Funds? 1335 03:15:17,180 --> 03:15:22,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ano po yung mga mayor na pagbabago sa mga guidelines na ito? 1336 03:15:30,000 --> 03:15:40,860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, sa ngayon po, because it involves a lot of agencies, tinatrabaho na po. 1337 03:15:41,760 --> 03:15:46,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ang ginagawa ng ano, ito yung mga observation na dapat baguhin. 1338 03:15:47,200 --> 03:15:51,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung use of aliases or code names. 1339 03:15:52,740 --> 03:15:56,860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung tungkol sa evidence of success, yung mga rewards. 1340 03:15:58,120 --> 03:15:59,860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tungkol sa mga allowed experiences. 1341 03:16:00,000 --> 03:16:06,380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka yung hanggang saan ang clearance ng auditor. 1342 03:16:07,480 --> 03:16:09,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Security clearance ng mga auditor. 1343 03:16:11,080 --> 03:16:15,420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka yung paggamit ng mga generic acknowledgement receipts. 1344 03:16:16,780 --> 03:16:20,880 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, ito po ang mga pagbabago na ginagawa ngayon. 1345 03:16:21,060 --> 03:16:22,220 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Working progress po ito. 1346 03:16:22,640 --> 03:16:27,820 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: As to when, I think, within the soonest possible time. 1347 03:16:27,820 --> 03:16:29,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Hindi pa maibigay ng COA kung kailan matapos. 1348 03:16:30,000 --> 03:16:38,780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: But there are now efforts to really revise that 2015 Memorandum Circular. 1349 03:16:39,880 --> 03:16:44,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, bakit hindi po kasama dito yung pagbabawal? 1350 03:16:44,800 --> 03:16:49,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ay may kinalaman sa National Security Law Enforcement and Investigation. 1351 03:16:50,140 --> 03:16:57,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po ba panahon na para malinaw na may prohibition sa paggamit ng confidential funds, 1352 03:16:57,000 --> 03:17:00,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng intelligence funds, ang mga civilian agents? 1353 03:17:00,000 --> 03:17:09,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mr. Speaker, it is Congress, tayo po mismo, 1354 03:17:10,560 --> 03:17:21,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang naggawa ng mga guidelines through our GAA for what we call the Provisional Conditions. 1355 03:17:21,720 --> 03:17:28,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tayo mismo, sino yung dapat bigyan at hindi bigyan. 1356 03:17:28,840 --> 03:17:29,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, 1357 03:17:30,000 --> 03:17:34,020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: that is yung ginagawa natin. 1358 03:17:34,200 --> 03:17:35,480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yan ang ginagawa natin. 1359 03:17:35,880 --> 03:17:40,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tayo mismo ang nag-identify sinong bigyan at saka hindi bigyan. 1360 03:17:42,760 --> 03:17:43,360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So... 1361 03:17:43,360 --> 03:17:47,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, kung magbibigay po ng rekomendasyon ang COA, 1362 03:17:48,380 --> 03:17:54,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: what would you recommend with regard to the use of confidential and intelligence funds by civilian agencies? 1363 03:18:00,000 --> 03:18:14,840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ito po yung mga dapat na mangyari. 1364 03:18:14,840 --> 03:18:25,580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung observation ng COA, yun na, ang paggamit ng resibo, very generic. 1365 03:18:27,280 --> 03:18:29,960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung paggamit ng mga aliases. 1366 03:18:30,000 --> 03:18:31,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Or code names, no? 1367 03:18:32,700 --> 03:18:35,020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka yung rewards, no? 1368 03:18:35,160 --> 03:18:36,860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ano bang dapat bigyan ng rewards? 1369 03:18:37,020 --> 03:18:38,400 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Dahil ba success? 1370 03:18:38,620 --> 03:18:40,520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ano yung evidence of success, no? 1371 03:18:41,400 --> 03:18:42,960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: At saka yung allowed expenses. 1372 03:18:43,360 --> 03:18:47,880 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ano ba yung mga dapat na expenses na allowed, no? 1373 03:18:48,120 --> 03:18:49,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Or hindi, allowed. 1374 03:18:49,940 --> 03:18:52,540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, yun po ang mga minamungkahi ng COA, no? 1375 03:18:52,940 --> 03:18:55,320 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Regards this Confi and Intelligence Fund. 1376 03:18:57,680 --> 03:18:59,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung IDUS naman, 1377 03:19:00,000 --> 03:19:03,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang LGUs, no? 1378 03:19:04,380 --> 03:19:09,800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Meron rito mga intelligence and confidential funds, no? 1379 03:19:12,520 --> 03:19:13,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, 1380 03:19:14,540 --> 03:19:17,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: minamungkahi po ng COA, ang DILG, 1381 03:19:18,400 --> 03:19:22,600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: na maggawa din sila ng sarili nilang guidelines, no? 1382 03:19:22,640 --> 03:19:23,880 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Paano gamitin, no? 1383 03:19:24,220 --> 03:19:25,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Although, meron joint circular, 1384 03:19:26,620 --> 03:19:26,920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pero, 1385 03:19:27,960 --> 03:19:29,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: so, hopefully, no? 1386 03:19:30,000 --> 03:19:33,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Hopefully, soon, nalabas na yung bagong revised guidelines. 1387 03:19:34,680 --> 03:19:40,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Para naman, to answer or respond to the call of the people, 1388 03:19:41,040 --> 03:19:43,620 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung paggamit ng mga intel and confi funds. 1389 03:19:45,000 --> 03:19:52,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, wala bang maibibigay sa atin na espesipiko na petsa, na buwan, 1390 03:19:53,260 --> 03:19:58,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung kailan po natin mapagtitibay at mapapalakas ang mga guidelines na ito? 1391 03:19:58,960 --> 03:19:59,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mahalaga po ito. 1392 03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:01,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil ngayon pa lang, 1393 03:20:01,420 --> 03:20:03,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron na sa ating mga general provisions 1394 03:20:03,600 --> 03:20:06,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang tungkol sa paggamit ng confidential and intelligence funds. 1395 03:20:07,020 --> 03:20:12,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nararapat lang na yung mga rekomendasyon sa pagpapalakas nito 1396 03:20:12,640 --> 03:20:17,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay mailabas na agad ng COA at ang ibang mga agencies, 1397 03:20:17,520 --> 03:20:18,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga departamento, 1398 03:20:19,220 --> 03:20:21,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kabilang sa pagpapalakas nito. 1399 03:20:26,160 --> 03:20:27,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mr. Speaker, 1400 03:20:27,340 --> 03:20:29,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: as to when, 1401 03:20:29,120 --> 03:20:32,420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kung kailan lalabas ito, 1402 03:20:33,240 --> 03:20:36,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: COA will do its best effort. 1403 03:20:37,380 --> 03:20:42,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kung COA lang ang masusunod within the year. 1404 03:20:43,100 --> 03:20:44,480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pero ang problema, 1405 03:20:45,460 --> 03:20:46,820 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: meron pang ibang ahensya. 1406 03:20:47,920 --> 03:20:50,020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Enter agencies coordination, 1407 03:20:50,700 --> 03:20:52,060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: lalo ng DBM. 1408 03:20:53,060 --> 03:20:55,540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Tagal, daming daanan. 1409 03:20:55,540 --> 03:20:56,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, 1410 03:20:56,840 --> 03:20:58,780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: siguro remotely, 1411 03:20:59,120 --> 03:21:04,760 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa mga first semester of next year hanggang June of next year, 1412 03:21:04,760 --> 03:21:11,920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: may lalabas ng bagong guidelines sa paggamit ng CONFIE and Intel Fund. 1413 03:21:13,200 --> 03:21:17,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, nakita na rin natin sa mga deliberasyon dito sa Kongreso 1414 03:21:17,620 --> 03:21:22,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano pong napakahirap i-audit nitong confidential and intelligence funds 1415 03:21:22,420 --> 03:21:23,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil nga sa nature nito. 1416 03:21:23,880 --> 03:21:26,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na kaya kung pwede pa natin mas ma-restrict, 1417 03:21:26,660 --> 03:21:27,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: no, 1418 03:21:27,160 --> 03:21:28,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ma-linaw. 1419 03:21:28,060 --> 03:21:28,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Halimbawa, 1420 03:21:28,960 --> 03:21:29,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na lang 1421 03:21:29,460 --> 03:21:33,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang matagal nang mungkahi na huwag nang payagan ang mga civilian agencies 1422 03:21:33,560 --> 03:21:36,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na gumamit ng ganitong tipo ng mga pondo. 1423 03:21:36,200 --> 03:21:38,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil lahat naman ang nasa mandato nila, 1424 03:21:38,300 --> 03:21:39,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pwede nilang gawin. 1425 03:21:39,460 --> 03:21:39,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: No? 1426 03:21:39,960 --> 03:21:41,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nang may transparency, 1427 03:21:41,120 --> 03:21:42,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may accountability, 1428 03:21:42,280 --> 03:21:47,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nang hindi gumagamit ng ni-piso ng confidential and intelligence funds. 1429 03:21:47,400 --> 03:21:49,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, sa 1430 03:21:49,240 --> 03:21:51,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang tamang panahon dito sa plenaryo, 1431 03:21:51,240 --> 03:21:53,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tayo po ay mag- 1432 03:21:54,560 --> 03:21:55,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mananawagan 1433 03:21:55,720 --> 03:21:56,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng malakas, 1434 03:21:56,600 --> 03:21:58,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natanggalin po yung pagpayag, 1435 03:21:58,920 --> 03:22:03,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa paggamit ng civilian government agencies ng confidential and intelligence funds 1436 03:22:03,720 --> 03:22:10,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakapaloob mismo sa ating panukala para sa susunod na taon sa Fiscal Year 2027, 1437 03:22:10,720 --> 03:22:14,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakalagay po sa ating Seksyon 92, 1438 03:22:14,920 --> 03:22:21,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakalagay po dito na pinapayagan gumamit ang civilian government agencies ng confidential funds. 1439 03:22:21,420 --> 03:22:25,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Naninindigan po ang representasyon na ito na dapat na itong maibasura, 1440 03:22:25,420 --> 03:22:28,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat na itong matanggal sa mga pinapayagan natin. 1441 03:22:28,920 --> 03:22:31,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para sa interes 1442 03:22:31,120 --> 03:22:34,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mas mahigpit ng mga mekanismo para sa pananagutan. 1443 03:22:34,560 --> 03:22:36,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker. 1444 03:22:36,120 --> 03:22:38,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Distinguished Sponsor. 1445 03:22:38,120 --> 03:22:39,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Thank you. 1446 03:22:39,120 --> 03:22:42,380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Rep. Sarah Jain, salamat. 1447 03:22:43,720 --> 03:22:45,320 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Maraming salamat, 1448 03:22:45,320 --> 03:22:47,580 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Kong Elago. 1449 03:22:47,580 --> 03:22:49,580 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Kabataan Party-list. 1450 03:22:49,580 --> 03:22:51,580 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Majority Leader, please. 1451 03:22:57,260 --> 03:22:58,380 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize 1452 03:22:58,920 --> 03:23:00,100 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: the Honorable 1453 03:23:00,100 --> 03:23:03,220 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Tino of the 1454 03:23:03,220 --> 03:23:04,640 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: ACT Teachers 1455 03:23:04,640 --> 03:23:07,220 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Party-list to interpellate 1456 03:23:07,220 --> 03:23:09,340 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. 1457 03:23:09,880 --> 03:23:10,840 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Thank you, Majority Leader. 1458 03:23:12,120 --> 03:23:13,040 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Congressperson 1459 03:23:13,040 --> 03:23:15,020 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: Tino 1460 03:23:15,020 --> 03:23:17,160 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: of ACT Teachers Partylist, 1461 03:23:18,660 --> 03:23:19,160 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: sir, you're 1462 03:23:19,160 --> 03:23:20,020 Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza: recognized. 1463 03:23:26,020 --> 03:23:27,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, 1464 03:23:27,340 --> 03:23:27,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Speaker. 1465 03:23:28,920 --> 03:23:30,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, Mr. Speaker, for 1466 03:23:30,720 --> 03:23:33,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027, the 1467 03:23:33,120 --> 03:23:34,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proposed budget 1468 03:23:34,760 --> 03:23:37,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of COA is 1469 03:23:37,020 --> 03:23:39,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 14.7 billion pesos. 1470 03:23:41,100 --> 03:23:43,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, ang tanong ko po 1471 03:23:43,260 --> 03:23:45,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay mas 1472 03:23:45,520 --> 03:23:47,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung kalagayan 1473 03:23:47,440 --> 03:23:48,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng COA ngayon, 1474 03:23:49,980 --> 03:23:52,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particularly 1475 03:23:52,280 --> 03:23:54,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with regard 1476 03:23:54,440 --> 03:23:57,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to one of its three 1477 03:23:57,320 --> 03:23:58,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: commissioners. 1478 03:23:58,920 --> 03:24:01,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, alam po natin, 1479 03:24:02,420 --> 03:24:02,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayon sa 1480 03:24:02,980 --> 03:24:05,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Constitution at Batas, tatlo ang 1481 03:24:05,220 --> 03:24:06,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga commissioner 1482 03:24:06,860 --> 03:24:07,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng COA. 1483 03:24:09,200 --> 03:24:10,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, nandyan po ngayon 1484 03:24:10,920 --> 03:24:12,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang kanilang chairperson, 1485 03:24:13,000 --> 03:24:15,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si Chairperson Gamaliel Cordoba. 1486 03:24:16,440 --> 03:24:16,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At, 1487 03:24:16,780 --> 03:24:18,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ko alam kung nandyan din 1488 03:24:18,620 --> 03:24:20,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang kanilang, isa pang 1489 03:24:20,760 --> 03:24:22,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: commissioner, si Commissioner Douglas 1490 03:24:22,740 --> 03:24:24,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Malilin. Ayun, 1491 03:24:24,600 --> 03:24:26,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayun po po la si Commissioner. 1492 03:24:27,640 --> 03:24:28,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, ang pangatlo nyo, 1493 03:24:28,920 --> 03:24:30,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun po ang gusto natin 1494 03:24:30,820 --> 03:24:32,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kumustahin. Ito po, of 1495 03:24:32,980 --> 03:24:34,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: course, none other than 1496 03:24:34,660 --> 03:24:36,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Commissioner Mario 1497 03:24:36,140 --> 03:24:37,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gonzales Lipana, 1498 03:24:38,760 --> 03:24:39,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: whose term 1499 03:24:39,720 --> 03:24:43,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is set 1500 03:24:43,200 --> 03:24:44,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to expire 1501 03:24:44,300 --> 03:24:46,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the 2nd of February 1502 03:24:46,740 --> 03:24:48,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027. Tama po ba? 1503 03:24:50,300 --> 03:24:52,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba yun? Mag-e-expire na yung term 1504 03:24:52,560 --> 03:24:54,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung pangatlong 1505 03:24:54,500 --> 03:24:55,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: commissioner na nabanggit ko. 1506 03:24:55,760 --> 03:24:55,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 1507 03:24:55,900 --> 03:24:58,840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mr. Speaker, 1508 03:24:58,920 --> 03:25:02,420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Commissioner Lipana, 1509 03:25:03,180 --> 03:25:05,120 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: term's expiration 1510 03:25:05,120 --> 03:25:06,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: is February 2, 1511 03:25:07,000 --> 03:25:08,020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: 2027. 1512 03:25:08,400 --> 03:25:10,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. Okay. Well, 1513 03:25:11,100 --> 03:25:12,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Speaker, 1514 03:25:13,160 --> 03:25:14,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: last year, 1515 03:25:15,900 --> 03:25:17,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na naging 1516 03:25:17,000 --> 03:25:18,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: subject ng controversy 1517 03:25:18,840 --> 03:25:20,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si Commissioner Lipana, 1518 03:25:21,300 --> 03:25:23,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: especially at the height 1519 03:25:23,260 --> 03:25:25,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the flood control 1520 03:25:25,240 --> 03:25:26,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: corruption controversy, 1521 03:25:26,920 --> 03:25:27,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this year, 1522 03:25:27,600 --> 03:25:29,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil 1523 03:25:29,600 --> 03:25:33,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lumabas na ang kanyang 1524 03:25:33,600 --> 03:25:35,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: asawa, 1525 03:25:36,200 --> 03:25:36,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marie 1526 03:25:36,700 --> 03:25:38,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marie Lou Lipana, 1527 03:25:40,360 --> 03:25:40,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay 1528 03:25:40,660 --> 03:25:44,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay 1529 03:25:44,900 --> 03:25:47,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: contractor po. 1530 03:25:47,260 --> 03:25:49,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Contractor. Particularly, 1531 03:25:50,960 --> 03:25:51,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there is this 1532 03:25:51,760 --> 03:25:53,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: company known as 1533 03:25:53,640 --> 03:25:55,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Olympus Mining and Builders Group, 1534 03:25:55,660 --> 03:25:57,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Philippines Corporation, 1535 03:25:57,600 --> 03:25:59,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: formerly known as 1536 03:25:59,700 --> 03:26:03,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Olympus Builders and Mining Corporation, 1537 03:26:03,100 --> 03:26:05,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and according to records, 1538 03:26:05,600 --> 03:26:08,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: since 2022, 1539 03:26:08,100 --> 03:26:11,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan din po yung panahon 1540 03:26:11,360 --> 03:26:14,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na unang naupo si Commissioner Lipana, 1541 03:26:14,260 --> 03:26:17,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mula 2022 until 2025, 1542 03:26:17,840 --> 03:26:20,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay nakakuha po ito ng 1543 03:26:20,600 --> 03:26:23,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 27 public infrastructure projects worth, 1544 03:26:27,600 --> 03:26:29,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2.204 billion pesos. 1545 03:26:33,600 --> 03:26:35,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These include projects, 1546 03:26:35,600 --> 03:26:37,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: notably, 1547 03:26:37,600 --> 03:26:39,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: not just for buildings and facilities, 1548 03:26:41,600 --> 03:26:43,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: but also, 1549 03:26:43,600 --> 03:26:45,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a large number of projects 1550 03:26:47,600 --> 03:26:49,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for flood control and roads. 1551 03:26:49,600 --> 03:26:51,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Almost, 1552 03:26:51,600 --> 03:26:53,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: halos magkapanta yun sa 2.2 billion, 1553 03:26:53,600 --> 03:26:55,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1.01 billion for flood control and roads. 1554 03:26:59,500 --> 03:27:01,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1.13 billion for roads. 1555 03:27:03,500 --> 03:27:05,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Average cost of contract, 1556 03:27:05,500 --> 03:27:07,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 81 million. 1557 03:27:07,500 --> 03:27:09,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Malalaking kontrata po. 1558 03:27:09,500 --> 03:27:11,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At, ang kumpanya pong ito, 1559 03:27:13,500 --> 03:27:15,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pangunahing mga proyekto 1560 03:27:17,500 --> 03:27:19,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay pangunahing pinatupad 1561 03:27:19,500 --> 03:27:21,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Bulacan. 1562 03:27:21,500 --> 03:27:23,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 1563 03:27:23,500 --> 03:27:25,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the, 1564 03:27:25,500 --> 03:27:27,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particularly, 1565 03:27:27,500 --> 03:27:29,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bulacan 1st District Engineering Office, 1566 03:27:29,500 --> 03:27:31,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bulacan 2nd and Bulacan 3rd, 1567 03:27:31,500 --> 03:27:33,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as well as in Region 3, 1568 03:27:35,500 --> 03:27:37,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and Metro Manila. 1569 03:27:37,500 --> 03:27:39,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, may mga proyekto din po. 1570 03:27:39,500 --> 03:27:41,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let us of course note, 1571 03:27:43,500 --> 03:27:45,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bulacan 1st District Engineering Office, 1572 03:27:45,500 --> 03:27:47,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayan yung pinanggalingan ni 1573 03:27:51,500 --> 03:27:53,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Henry Alcantara. 1574 03:27:53,500 --> 03:27:55,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ngayon involved sa maraming mga ghost projects. 1575 03:27:55,500 --> 03:27:57,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let me also note, 1576 03:27:57,500 --> 03:27:59,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that COA 1577 03:27:59,500 --> 03:28:01,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: last year 1578 03:28:01,500 --> 03:28:03,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: last year 1579 03:28:03,500 --> 03:28:05,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: was 1580 03:28:05,500 --> 03:28:07,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: took it upon or undertook 1581 03:28:07,500 --> 03:28:09,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to come out with 1582 03:28:09,500 --> 03:28:11,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: audit reports. 1583 03:28:11,500 --> 03:28:13,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mabilisan po gumawa ng 1584 03:28:13,500 --> 03:28:15,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: audit ng mga flood control projects 1585 03:28:15,500 --> 03:28:17,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Bulacan. At nakakuha po tayo 1586 03:28:17,500 --> 03:28:19,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng kopya ng mga proyektong yun, 1587 03:28:19,500 --> 03:28:21,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kinukumpirma nga 1588 03:28:21,500 --> 03:28:23,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na 1589 03:28:23,500 --> 03:28:25,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maraming mga proyekto, 1590 03:28:25,500 --> 03:28:27,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ghost, or 1591 03:28:27,500 --> 03:28:29,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with 1592 03:28:29,500 --> 03:28:31,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: serious issues. 1593 03:28:31,500 --> 03:28:33,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga finlag po ito 1594 03:28:33,500 --> 03:28:35,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng COA. Okay. 1595 03:28:35,500 --> 03:28:37,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya po, 1596 03:28:37,500 --> 03:28:39,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: since last year, 1597 03:28:39,500 --> 03:28:41,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may mga 1598 03:28:41,500 --> 03:28:43,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: questions 1599 03:28:43,500 --> 03:28:45,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: regarding the clear conflict of interest. 1600 03:28:47,500 --> 03:28:49,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That we have a Commissioner of COA 1601 03:28:49,500 --> 03:28:51,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: whose 1602 03:28:51,500 --> 03:28:53,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: um, 1603 03:28:53,500 --> 03:28:55,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: spouse 1604 03:28:55,500 --> 03:28:57,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is known to be a 1605 03:28:57,500 --> 03:28:59,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, contractor for 1606 03:28:59,500 --> 03:29:01,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: flood control projects. Kaya matagal na pong 1607 03:29:01,500 --> 03:29:03,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, 1608 03:29:03,500 --> 03:29:05,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may mga panawagan actually na mag-resign 1609 03:29:05,500 --> 03:29:07,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si Commissioner 1610 03:29:07,500 --> 03:29:09,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lipana. Para po, 1611 03:29:09,500 --> 03:29:11,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi madamay ang 1612 03:29:11,500 --> 03:29:13,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kredibilidad ng institution, 1613 03:29:13,500 --> 03:29:15,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: institution 1614 03:29:15,500 --> 03:29:17,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Commission on Audit. Lalo pa't 1615 03:29:17,500 --> 03:29:19,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dapat kalaga ng papel ng COA 1616 03:29:19,500 --> 03:29:21,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa 1617 03:29:21,500 --> 03:29:23,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, you know, bilang 1618 03:29:23,500 --> 03:29:25,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: huling 1619 03:29:25,500 --> 03:29:27,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: line of defense, ika nga, 1620 03:29:27,500 --> 03:29:29,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kontra sa corruption. 1621 03:29:29,500 --> 03:29:31,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Ano po, 1622 03:29:31,500 --> 03:29:33,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mula nung nakaraang taon, 1623 03:29:33,500 --> 03:29:35,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ang status 1624 03:29:35,500 --> 03:29:37,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nitong si Commissioner 1625 03:29:37,500 --> 03:29:39,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lipana? 1626 03:29:41,500 --> 03:29:43,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, 1627 03:29:43,500 --> 03:29:45,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: dalawa po yung 1628 03:29:45,500 --> 03:29:47,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: katanungan kung tama po ako. 1629 03:29:47,500 --> 03:29:49,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Una, 1630 03:29:49,500 --> 03:29:51,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: is about 1631 03:29:51,500 --> 03:29:53,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: the status of Commissioner Lipana. 1632 03:29:53,500 --> 03:29:55,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Ah, 1633 03:29:55,500 --> 03:29:57,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang pangalawa, ah, 1634 03:29:57,500 --> 03:29:59,500 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: about sa kontrata. 1635 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:01,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ng kanyang asawa 1636 03:30:01,440 --> 03:30:03,740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa goberno. Tama po? 1637 03:30:03,940 --> 03:30:04,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, 1638 03:30:04,520 --> 03:30:04,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: tama po. 1639 03:30:06,140 --> 03:30:06,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Sa 1640 03:30:06,340 --> 03:30:09,540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: unang sagot po, sa 1641 03:30:09,540 --> 03:30:11,820 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: status po ni Commissioner 1642 03:30:11,820 --> 03:30:12,940 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Lipana, 1643 03:30:14,740 --> 03:30:15,900 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: siya po ngayon ay 1644 03:30:15,900 --> 03:30:16,860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: naka 1645 03:30:16,860 --> 03:30:19,740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sick leave, on 1646 03:30:19,740 --> 03:30:20,280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: leave. 1647 03:30:21,580 --> 03:30:23,220 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Dahil po sa 1648 03:30:23,220 --> 03:30:25,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: karamdaman niya, mayroon po siyang 1649 03:30:25,660 --> 03:30:26,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kanser. 1650 03:30:27,780 --> 03:30:29,540 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yun naman sa 1651 03:30:29,540 --> 03:30:32,600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kontrata 1652 03:30:32,600 --> 03:30:34,580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: involving 1653 03:30:34,580 --> 03:30:36,360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: asawa niya, 1654 03:30:37,520 --> 03:30:37,960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mayroon na po 1655 03:30:37,960 --> 03:30:39,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ginawang 1656 03:30:39,300 --> 03:30:42,100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pagsisiyasat 1657 03:30:42,100 --> 03:30:42,960 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ang COA. 1658 03:30:44,120 --> 03:30:45,680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: In fact, mayroon na po ang notice 1659 03:30:45,680 --> 03:30:47,280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: of disallowance 1660 03:30:47,280 --> 03:30:49,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa yung 1661 03:30:49,720 --> 03:30:51,780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: referring to the firm 1662 03:30:51,780 --> 03:30:53,680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: or construction firm of 1663 03:30:53,680 --> 03:30:55,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mrs. Lipana. 1664 03:30:56,920 --> 03:30:58,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, nag-issue po 1665 03:30:58,000 --> 03:30:59,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng notice of disallowance 1666 03:30:59,540 --> 03:31:02,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: what is the status of the notice 1667 03:31:02,140 --> 03:31:03,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of disallowance? 1668 03:31:03,400 --> 03:31:04,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Final na po ba yan? 1669 03:31:04,920 --> 03:31:05,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Or is it still 1670 03:31:05,780 --> 03:31:09,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at what stage? Ano na pong stage 1671 03:31:09,100 --> 03:31:11,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nun nung notice of disallowance? 1672 03:31:12,700 --> 03:31:13,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At the 1673 03:31:13,300 --> 03:31:15,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na-issue na po ba ito 1674 03:31:15,840 --> 03:31:18,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng final na po ba ito 1675 03:31:18,260 --> 03:31:19,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa level ng COA? 1676 03:31:22,700 --> 03:31:23,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang status? 1677 03:31:26,220 --> 03:31:27,940 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Nung pag-issue po ng notice 1678 03:31:27,940 --> 03:31:28,880 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: of disallowance, 1679 03:31:28,880 --> 03:31:29,420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ngayon, 1680 03:31:29,540 --> 03:31:29,980 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sa ngayon, 1681 03:31:30,860 --> 03:31:32,280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: on appeal na po sa 1682 03:31:32,280 --> 03:31:34,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Cluster 7. 1683 03:31:35,120 --> 03:31:35,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Okay. 1684 03:31:40,660 --> 03:31:41,860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Cluster 7 is 1685 03:31:41,860 --> 03:31:43,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: director doon, 1686 03:31:43,820 --> 03:31:45,480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: referring to 1687 03:31:45,480 --> 03:31:50,580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: public works, 1688 03:31:50,820 --> 03:31:51,580 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: transportation, 1689 03:31:52,140 --> 03:31:53,020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: and energy. 1690 03:31:53,580 --> 03:31:54,920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kasali po siya sa 1691 03:31:54,920 --> 03:31:56,520 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Cluster 7 na yan, 1692 03:31:56,520 --> 03:31:58,080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung public works. 1693 03:31:58,500 --> 03:31:59,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, 1694 03:31:59,540 --> 03:32:01,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may na-issue na na-notice 1695 03:32:01,980 --> 03:32:03,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero hindi pa po 1696 03:32:03,420 --> 03:32:04,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: umaabot sa 1697 03:32:04,660 --> 03:32:07,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kumbaga sa en banc mismo, 1698 03:32:07,980 --> 03:32:08,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa komisyon mismo? 1699 03:32:09,900 --> 03:32:11,100 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Wala pa po. 1700 03:32:11,640 --> 03:32:13,700 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Nasa level po pa ng 1701 03:32:13,700 --> 03:32:15,360 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: director ng 1702 03:32:15,360 --> 03:32:16,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Cluster 7. 1703 03:32:16,360 --> 03:32:18,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. And, 1704 03:32:18,980 --> 03:32:21,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi nyo nga, well, ito nga 1705 03:32:21,480 --> 03:32:22,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang problema. 1706 03:32:23,160 --> 03:32:25,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Aabot dito sa komisyon, isa sa mga 1707 03:32:25,480 --> 03:32:27,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: komisyoner ay asawa. 1708 03:32:27,820 --> 03:32:28,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 1709 03:32:29,540 --> 03:32:30,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang sabi nyo rin, 1710 03:32:31,460 --> 03:32:33,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay on-leave dahil may sakit 1711 03:32:33,620 --> 03:32:36,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si Komisyoner Lipana. 1712 03:32:36,400 --> 03:32:37,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, last year pa po, 1713 03:32:37,860 --> 03:32:40,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: during the budget deliberations last year, 1714 03:32:40,720 --> 03:32:42,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay kinukumusta na natin 1715 03:32:42,480 --> 03:32:44,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at gusto rin sana nating 1716 03:32:44,380 --> 03:32:45,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: matanong directly, 1717 03:32:46,400 --> 03:32:48,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lalo na at the budget briefing level 1718 03:32:48,400 --> 03:32:50,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Komisyoner Lipana, pero even at the time 1719 03:32:50,680 --> 03:32:51,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinabi na 1720 03:32:51,480 --> 03:32:53,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on sick leave na siya. 1721 03:32:54,280 --> 03:32:56,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Last year pa, gano'ng katagal na pong 1722 03:32:56,680 --> 03:32:58,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naka-sick leave itong si 1723 03:32:58,700 --> 03:32:59,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Komisyoner? 1724 03:32:59,540 --> 03:33:02,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Komisyoner Lipana, at hanggang 1725 03:33:02,200 --> 03:33:03,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kailan pa po ang kanyang 1726 03:33:03,540 --> 03:33:04,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sick leave? 1727 03:33:10,420 --> 03:33:11,440 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yung pong 1728 03:33:11,440 --> 03:33:13,480 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pag-sick leave ni 1729 03:33:13,480 --> 03:33:14,680 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Komisyoner Lipana, 1730 03:33:15,720 --> 03:33:19,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: halos buwan-buwan po 1731 03:33:19,300 --> 03:33:21,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pumupunta siya sana sa labas 1732 03:33:21,240 --> 03:33:22,280 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: para mag 1733 03:33:22,280 --> 03:33:25,780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pa-examine, no, sa kanyang 1734 03:33:25,780 --> 03:33:27,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: kalagayan, karamdaman. 1735 03:33:28,300 --> 03:33:29,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: After that, 1736 03:33:29,180 --> 03:33:31,260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: balik na naman, report for 1737 03:33:31,260 --> 03:33:33,000 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: duty, alis na naman, 1738 03:33:33,120 --> 03:33:35,240 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: after a month, punta na 1739 03:33:35,240 --> 03:33:37,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: mga Singapore para magpagamot. 1740 03:33:38,400 --> 03:33:39,080 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yun po ang status. 1741 03:33:39,820 --> 03:33:40,660 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: On and off yung 1742 03:33:40,660 --> 03:33:41,400 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: ano niya. 1743 03:33:41,400 --> 03:33:42,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, on and off po. 1744 03:33:42,860 --> 03:33:44,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ibig sabihin, nagsisik leave, 1745 03:33:45,340 --> 03:33:46,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos bumabalik, 1746 03:33:47,040 --> 03:33:49,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagre-report for duty, tapos pag-a-apply na naman 1747 03:33:49,180 --> 03:33:50,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for leave. Ganun po ba? 1748 03:33:52,980 --> 03:33:55,180 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: His condition warrants it, 1749 03:33:55,280 --> 03:33:56,840 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: yung karamdaman niya. Kasi, 1750 03:33:56,840 --> 03:33:57,420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: sabi nga, 1751 03:33:57,420 --> 03:33:59,780 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: pa-terminal na yung 1752 03:33:59,780 --> 03:34:01,040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: terminal cancer, 1753 03:34:01,220 --> 03:34:02,800 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: final stage of cancer. 1754 03:34:02,900 --> 03:34:04,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, naintindihan po natin. 1755 03:34:04,880 --> 03:34:07,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang clarification nyo po, 1756 03:34:07,560 --> 03:34:09,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi continuous yung kanyang 1757 03:34:09,420 --> 03:34:10,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sick leave. 1758 03:34:11,160 --> 03:34:12,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung hindi periodically 1759 03:34:12,260 --> 03:34:17,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: renewed 1760 03:34:17,280 --> 03:34:19,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or applied for, parang 1761 03:34:19,320 --> 03:34:20,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ganun. Tama po ba? 1762 03:34:21,080 --> 03:34:21,730 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes po. 1763 03:34:21,730 --> 03:34:22,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Cumulatively, 1764 03:34:24,040 --> 03:34:25,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede po bang masabi 1765 03:34:25,140 --> 03:34:26,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng commission, 1766 03:34:27,420 --> 03:34:28,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: through the sponsor, 1767 03:34:29,180 --> 03:34:31,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gaano katagal na pong naka-sick leave 1768 03:34:31,280 --> 03:34:33,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mula, kahit, mula, 1769 03:34:33,580 --> 03:34:35,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mula, mula, simula. Kailan siya 1770 03:34:35,320 --> 03:34:36,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagsimulang mag-sick leave? 1771 03:34:38,000 --> 03:34:38,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hanggang 1772 03:34:38,600 --> 03:34:41,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa kasalukuyang panahon. 1773 03:34:44,060 --> 03:34:45,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For the record po. 1774 03:35:27,420 --> 03:35:44,600 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Mr. Speaker, iyong katanungan po kung cumulatively, ang nangyari po ay buwan-buwan, every month, nag-apply siya ng tatlong araw na leave. 1775 03:35:44,600 --> 03:36:05,380 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So, saka balik na naman, trabaho. To be exact, magbigay na lang po kami ng data. Ilan na talaga, ilang buwan na yung ano niya, since 2025 up to the present. 1776 03:36:05,620 --> 03:36:13,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, please. So, in writing po, kung pwede, para lang malaman natin. So, hindi naman pala continuous ito. 1777 03:36:13,340 --> 03:36:26,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And just to clarify, yung mga commissioner po ba ng COA, are they covered by the same guidelines on sick leave as other employees of government? 1778 03:36:26,320 --> 03:36:34,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba, may mga limitasyon lang yan, di ba? Hindi only ang sick leave, tama po ba? Okay. So, hindi po. 1779 03:36:35,160 --> 03:36:37,340 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Cover lang po lahat, pareha lang po ang… 1780 03:36:37,340 --> 03:36:41,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pareho lang sa mga empleyado, therefore, may hangganan din po, no? 1781 03:36:41,540 --> 03:36:41,720 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Yes. 1782 03:36:42,220 --> 03:36:42,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 1783 03:36:43,340 --> 03:37:01,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sige, intayin na lang po natin. Pero ito na po ang tanong. Ibig po sabihin, panapanahon lang. So, tuloy pa rin po, for the most part, the COA can say na nagagampanan pa rin ni Commissioner Lipana ang kanyang tungkulin. 1784 03:37:03,520 --> 03:37:12,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is he still able to discharge his duties as COA Commissioner despite his health condition? 1785 03:37:13,340 --> 03:37:23,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That requires him to avail of sick leave periodically, every month, apparently. Nagagampanan pa rin po ba niya, ang kanyang mga tungkulin bilang Commissioner? 1786 03:37:27,720 --> 03:37:31,260 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Nagagampanan po naman ni Commissioner Lipana yung trabaho niya. 1787 03:37:31,680 --> 03:37:39,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagagampanan po. So, in other words, the Commission en banc, yung tatlong miyembro, ay fully functioning. 1788 03:37:40,600 --> 03:37:42,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig sabihin, kung nangangailangan ng… 1789 03:37:43,340 --> 03:37:58,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Decision, no? Merong mga resolution o merong mga kaso. Halimbawa, itong Notice of Disallowance, ay available po yung tatlong Commissioner at yung tatlong nagpapasya. Ganun pa rin po? 1790 03:38:00,760 --> 03:38:13,220 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kahit po wala si Commissioner Lipana, ang Commission itself, nagagampanan namin nila yung remaining dalawang Commissioner, they are still doing their… they can do their job. 1791 03:38:13,340 --> 03:38:14,860 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Even without Commissioner Lipana. 1792 03:38:14,880 --> 03:38:24,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, they can do their jobs. I have no doubt, they can do their jobs. Pero ang tanong ko lang po, hindi po ba may mga pagkakataon na kailangan yung buong Commission? O sapat na yung dalawa? 1793 03:38:26,800 --> 03:38:35,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paano halimbawa, kung merong opinion na magkaiba yung dalawa, how will that be settled? Wala bang ganun? 1794 03:38:37,300 --> 03:38:42,420 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: So far naman po, sapat na po yung… 1795 03:38:43,340 --> 03:38:49,640 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Dalawa. So far, no? Wala naman silang mga pagtunggali between their opinions. 1796 03:38:49,640 --> 03:39:03,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so far wala. And para malinawan lang po, pwede po ba mag-issue ng mga resolution, decision, and so on, ang en banc na dalawa lang sa tatlo ang nakapirma? Pwede na yun? 1797 03:39:04,380 --> 03:39:04,920 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Pwede po. 1798 03:39:05,380 --> 03:39:09,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede? Dahil ang requirement, basta majority, ganun po ba? 1799 03:39:10,260 --> 03:39:11,040 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Majority po. 1800 03:39:11,040 --> 03:39:12,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, okay. Alright. 1801 03:39:13,340 --> 03:39:28,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ngayon, kung sakaling umabot po sa, sabi nyo, merong notice of disallowance involving the wife of Commissioner Lipana na nasa lower level pa, no? 1802 03:39:28,140 --> 03:39:30,020 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Cluster 7 po. Cluster 7. 1803 03:39:30,120 --> 03:39:35,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Cluster 7. Eventually, tama po, aabot yan sa en banc. Tama po ba? 1804 03:39:36,260 --> 03:39:37,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po mangyayari? 1805 03:39:38,180 --> 03:39:42,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Will the Commissioner Lipana be involved in… 1806 03:39:43,340 --> 03:39:46,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Be decision-making on that resolution? 1807 03:39:49,020 --> 03:40:01,060 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Kung aabot sa Commission en banc level, mag-inhibit si Commissioner Lipana. 1808 03:40:01,060 --> 03:40:10,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Okay, Mr. Speaker, yun po ang pangunahing concern natin. 1809 03:40:10,900 --> 03:40:12,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marami pong mga… 1810 03:40:13,340 --> 03:40:20,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakatutok sa Commission on Appointments ngayon at ang pagtingin nga ay may cloud. 1811 03:40:22,300 --> 03:40:40,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Merong question sa credibility ng Commission dahil ang isa sa kanilang, isa sa tatlong Commissioner ay, yun nga, asawa ng isang contractor na sabi na rin ng COA na issuean pa ng notice of disallowance 1812 03:40:40,700 --> 03:40:46,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaugnay sa flood control or DPWH contracts, no? 1813 03:40:46,420 --> 03:41:10,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya po, sinikap nating linawin ano ba talaga ang status nitong si Commissioner Lipana at ngayon malinaw na nagpapatuloy pa rin siya sa kanyang panunungkulan panapanahong nag-a-avail ng sick leave at, well, 1814 03:41:10,380 --> 03:41:19,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: merong pahayag dito na kung sakaling may conflict of interest, magkakaroon ng conflict of interest, mag-inhibit ang Commissioner. 1815 03:41:19,980 --> 03:41:24,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hanggang doon na lang po siguro muna, Mr. Speaker. Maraming salamat po, ginuong sponsor. 1816 03:41:25,620 --> 03:41:28,740 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Thank you, Representative. Salamat po. 1817 03:41:29,980 --> 03:41:31,640 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader. 1818 03:41:34,700 --> 03:41:39,640 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Percy Zendanya of the Akbayan Partylist to 1819 03:41:40,380 --> 03:41:42,740 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: interpellate on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. 1820 03:41:43,300 --> 03:41:45,620 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: The Honorable Zendanya is recognized. Please proceed. 1821 03:41:46,200 --> 03:41:50,340 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon to the COA family. 1822 03:41:50,980 --> 03:41:57,940 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I will not be propounding questions as I have exhaustively discussed the points that I need to share regarding the budget of the Commission on Audit. 1823 03:41:57,940 --> 03:42:10,320 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I'd just like to reiterate my extreme concern on the lowering of the budget on capital outlay for the COA as this is a critical part in their efforts to digitize and to 1824 03:42:10,380 --> 03:42:21,000 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: computerize the systems within this critical government agency. And I hope that at a certain point, we'll be able to restore the necessary capital outlay for the COA. 1825 03:42:21,380 --> 03:42:29,580 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: There being no member of the minority that wishes to interpolate the Commission on Audit's budget, I move to terminate consideration of the same. 1826 03:42:29,840 --> 03:42:30,980 Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I so move, Mr. Speaker. 1827 03:42:31,380 --> 03:42:32,800 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader. 1828 03:42:34,520 --> 03:42:35,300 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Thank you. 1829 03:42:35,860 --> 03:42:40,300 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period 1830 03:42:40,380 --> 03:42:43,560 Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: of interpellations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. 1831 03:42:44,060 --> 03:42:50,660 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpolations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. Is there any objections? 1832 03:42:51,560 --> 03:42:57,020 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: The Chair hears none. The interpolations on the proposed budget on the Commission on Audit is terminated. 1833 03:42:59,740 --> 03:43:01,300 Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas: Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker. 1834 03:43:02,120 --> 03:43:03,200 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. 1835 03:43:05,480 --> 03:43:06,240 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. 1836 03:43:06,640 --> 03:43:07,500 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Motion to suspend. 1837 03:43:08,240 --> 03:43:08,940 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Session suspended. 1838 03:44:58,160 --> 03:45:00,600 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Session resumed. Majority Leader. 1839 03:45:00,600 --> 03:45:02,100 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move 1840 03:45:02,100 --> 03:45:03,920 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: to consider the proposed budget 1841 03:45:03,920 --> 03:45:05,960 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: of the Commission on Elections. 1842 03:45:06,340 --> 03:45:08,140 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Any objection? The Chair hears none. 1843 03:45:08,440 --> 03:45:09,140 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Motion is approved. 1844 03:45:09,920 --> 03:45:10,540 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. 1845 03:45:11,980 --> 03:45:14,220 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge 1846 03:45:14,220 --> 03:45:16,360 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: the presence of the heads and officials 1847 03:45:16,360 --> 03:45:18,420 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: of the Commission on Elections. 1848 03:45:18,420 --> 03:45:20,400 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: They are Chairperson 1849 03:45:20,400 --> 03:45:22,660 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: George Irwin 1850 03:45:22,660 --> 03:45:24,100 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Garcia, Commissioner 1851 03:45:24,100 --> 03:45:26,680 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Ernesto Maceda Jr., 1852 03:45:26,680 --> 03:45:28,440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Commissioner Nelson Celis, 1853 03:45:28,440 --> 03:45:30,100 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Commissioner Maria 1854 03:45:30,100 --> 03:45:32,000 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Norina Tangaro 1855 03:45:32,000 --> 03:45:34,480 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Casingal, and Executive Director 1856 03:45:34,480 --> 03:45:35,660 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Teopisto 1857 03:45:35,660 --> 03:45:37,120 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Elnas Jr. 1858 03:45:38,040 --> 03:45:40,200 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: We acknowledge the presence of the heads and 1859 03:45:40,200 --> 03:45:42,240 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: officials of the Commission on Elections, headed 1860 03:45:42,240 --> 03:45:44,300 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: by Chairperson George Irwin 1861 03:45:44,300 --> 03:45:46,320 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Garcia. Welcome to the House of 1862 03:45:46,320 --> 03:45:48,360 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representatives. Majority 1863 03:45:48,360 --> 03:45:49,400 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Leader. 1864 03:45:49,400 --> 03:45:50,020 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, 1865 03:45:50,900 --> 03:45:52,220 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: I move to recognize 1866 03:45:52,220 --> 03:45:54,360 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Representative Mike Tan of the 1867 03:45:54,360 --> 03:45:55,620 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: 4th District of Quezon, 1868 03:45:56,240 --> 03:45:58,080 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Vice Chairperson of the Committee on 1869 03:45:58,440 --> 03:46:00,440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Appropriations, to answer questions 1870 03:46:00,440 --> 03:46:02,380 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: on the proposed budget of the Commission 1871 03:46:02,380 --> 03:46:03,560 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: on Elections. 1872 03:46:03,560 --> 03:46:04,380 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Mike 1873 03:46:04,380 --> 03:46:06,200 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Tan is recognized. Please proceed. 1874 03:46:07,300 --> 03:46:08,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, 1875 03:46:08,400 --> 03:46:08,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker. 1876 03:46:09,980 --> 03:46:11,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Magandang tanghali na po sa ating lahat. 1877 03:46:12,500 --> 03:46:14,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Distinguished colleagues, it is my privilege 1878 03:46:14,500 --> 03:46:16,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: to sponsor the proposed fiscal 1879 03:46:16,300 --> 03:46:18,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: year 2027 budget 1880 03:46:18,360 --> 03:46:20,160 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of the Commission on Elections. 1881 03:46:20,720 --> 03:46:22,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: A constitutional commission entrusted 1882 03:46:22,540 --> 03:46:24,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with the vital responsibility 1883 03:46:24,140 --> 03:46:26,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of safeguarding 1884 03:46:26,540 --> 03:46:28,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the integrity of our electoral process. 1885 03:46:28,440 --> 03:46:30,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And ensuring the orderly, 1886 03:46:30,640 --> 03:46:32,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: credible, and efficient conduct 1887 03:46:32,320 --> 03:46:34,380 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of elections. For fiscal 1888 03:46:34,380 --> 03:46:36,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: year 2027, the Commission is proposing 1889 03:46:36,680 --> 03:46:37,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: a total budget of 1890 03:46:37,900 --> 03:46:40,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 29.5 billion pesos, 1891 03:46:40,720 --> 03:46:42,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: inclusive of automatic 1892 03:46:42,720 --> 03:46:43,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: appropriations. 1893 03:46:44,380 --> 03:46:45,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: It represents an increase of 1894 03:46:45,860 --> 03:46:48,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 9.31 billion pesos, 1895 03:46:48,440 --> 03:46:50,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: or 46 percent, from the 1896 03:46:50,540 --> 03:46:52,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: fiscal year 2026 1897 03:46:52,280 --> 03:46:54,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: GAA of 20.2 1898 03:46:54,440 --> 03:46:55,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: billion pesos. 1899 03:46:55,660 --> 03:46:57,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: This increase reflects 1900 03:46:57,280 --> 03:46:58,280 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the need to strengthen, 1901 03:46:58,440 --> 03:47:00,360 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the Commission's operational capacity 1902 03:47:00,360 --> 03:47:01,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: as it undertakes 1903 03:47:01,980 --> 03:47:04,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: preparations for the upcoming 1904 03:47:04,100 --> 03:47:06,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 2028 national and local elections. 1905 03:47:07,240 --> 03:47:08,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Of the proposed 1906 03:47:08,400 --> 03:47:10,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: allocation, 23.92 billion pesos 1907 03:47:10,680 --> 03:47:12,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is earmarked for preparatory 1908 03:47:12,240 --> 03:47:14,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: national and local elections activities, 1909 03:47:15,220 --> 03:47:16,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: allowing Comelec to 1910 03:47:16,320 --> 03:47:18,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: undertake procurement, systems preparation, 1911 03:47:19,060 --> 03:47:20,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: voter-related activities, 1912 03:47:20,520 --> 03:47:22,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and other essential requirements 1913 03:47:22,520 --> 03:47:24,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: well ahead of the 2028 elections. 1914 03:47:24,900 --> 03:47:26,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As we deliberate on this 1915 03:47:26,480 --> 03:47:28,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: budget, we must ensure that these resources, 1916 03:47:28,440 --> 03:47:30,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: are utilized efficiently, 1917 03:47:30,440 --> 03:47:32,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: transparently, and in accordance 1918 03:47:32,440 --> 03:47:34,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with the Commission's constitutional 1919 03:47:34,440 --> 03:47:36,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mandate and applicable laws. 1920 03:47:36,440 --> 03:47:38,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: With this, I respectfully 1921 03:47:38,440 --> 03:47:40,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: present the proposed 1922 03:47:40,440 --> 03:47:42,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: fiscal year 2027 budget 1923 03:47:42,440 --> 03:47:44,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of the Commission on Elections 1924 03:47:44,440 --> 03:47:46,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: for the consideration of this honorable 1925 03:47:46,440 --> 03:47:48,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Chamber. Thank you, Mr. 1926 03:47:48,440 --> 03:47:50,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Speaker. This representation is 1927 03:47:50,440 --> 03:47:52,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: now ready to answer questions from our colleagues. 1928 03:47:53,120 --> 03:47:54,440 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader? 1929 03:47:54,440 --> 03:47:56,440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move 1930 03:47:56,440 --> 03:47:58,440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: to recognize Representative 1931 03:47:58,440 --> 03:48:00,440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Edgar R. Erice 1932 03:48:00,440 --> 03:48:02,440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: of the 2nd District of Caloocan 1933 03:48:02,440 --> 03:48:04,440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: City to interpolate the sponsor 1934 03:48:04,440 --> 03:48:06,440 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: in the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections. 1935 03:48:06,440 --> 03:48:08,440 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Edgar 1936 03:48:08,440 --> 03:48:10,440 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Erice is recognized. Please proceed. 1937 03:48:10,440 --> 03:48:12,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Salamat po, Mr. Speaker. Salamat 1938 03:48:12,440 --> 03:48:14,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa ating Majority Leader 1939 03:48:14,440 --> 03:48:16,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at gayon po sa ating 1940 03:48:16,440 --> 03:48:18,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sponsor. 1941 03:48:18,440 --> 03:48:20,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Gandang hapon po. 1942 03:48:22,440 --> 03:48:24,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Una po ay aking 1943 03:48:24,440 --> 03:48:26,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: binabati ang Commission on Elections 1944 03:48:26,440 --> 03:48:28,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa napakamatiwasay, 1945 03:48:28,440 --> 03:48:30,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: maayos na halalan 1946 03:48:30,440 --> 03:48:32,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa BARMM nitong 1947 03:48:32,440 --> 03:48:34,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: nakaraang 1948 03:48:34,440 --> 03:48:36,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: linggo. 1949 03:48:36,440 --> 03:48:38,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At nais ko po sanang itanong 1950 03:48:38,440 --> 03:48:40,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kung meron na po silang 1951 03:48:40,440 --> 03:48:42,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: idea anong variance 1952 03:48:42,440 --> 03:48:44,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: in terms of accuracy 1953 03:48:44,440 --> 03:48:46,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng mga ginamit nilang 1954 03:48:46,440 --> 03:48:48,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: voting machines 1955 03:48:48,440 --> 03:48:50,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at kaninong 1956 03:48:50,440 --> 03:48:52,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: voting machines yung nagamit 1957 03:48:52,440 --> 03:48:54,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: po doon. 1958 03:48:59,270 --> 03:49:00,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now po, 1959 03:49:00,440 --> 03:49:02,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, 1960 03:49:02,440 --> 03:49:04,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ongoing po yung random manual 1961 03:49:04,440 --> 03:49:06,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: audit, but as per information po, 1962 03:49:06,440 --> 03:49:08,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung atin pong variance 1963 03:49:08,440 --> 03:49:10,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is at 0% pa rin po. 1964 03:49:10,440 --> 03:49:12,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 0% ang variance. 1965 03:49:12,440 --> 03:49:14,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So ibig sabihin accurate? 1966 03:49:14,440 --> 03:49:16,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Accurate po, ah 1967 03:49:16,440 --> 03:49:18,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker and distinguished colleague. 1968 03:49:18,440 --> 03:49:20,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ilang voting machines po ang ginamit 1969 03:49:20,440 --> 03:49:22,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para sa BARMM 1970 03:49:24,440 --> 03:49:26,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: elections? 1971 03:49:30,440 --> 03:49:32,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 7,000 machines po 1972 03:49:32,440 --> 03:49:34,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang ginamit po para sa atin pong 1973 03:49:34,440 --> 03:49:35,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: BARMM elections. 1974 03:49:35,960 --> 03:49:38,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At magkano po? Ito po ay lease contract. 1975 03:49:38,440 --> 03:49:40,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Magkano po yung lease contract nito? 1976 03:49:58,440 --> 03:50:00,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Amounting to 1.2 billion pesos po, 1977 03:50:00,440 --> 03:50:04,350 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague. 1978 03:50:04,440 --> 03:50:06,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 1.2 billion for 7,000 machines, 1979 03:50:06,440 --> 03:50:08,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: which includes 1980 03:50:08,440 --> 03:50:10,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: what services po? 1981 03:50:18,440 --> 03:50:20,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So it consists of the 1982 03:50:20,440 --> 03:50:22,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ballot boxes, yung 1983 03:50:22,440 --> 03:50:24,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: atin pong CCS, yung 1984 03:50:24,440 --> 03:50:26,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: consolidation and counting 1985 03:50:26,440 --> 03:50:28,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: system po ng ating machines, 1986 03:50:28,440 --> 03:50:30,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and then yung other 1987 03:50:30,440 --> 03:50:32,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: peripherals po nung ating 1988 03:50:32,440 --> 03:50:34,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga gagamitin 1989 03:50:34,440 --> 03:50:36,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po sa elections, 1990 03:50:36,440 --> 03:50:38,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: lalo na po yung mga pens 1991 03:50:38,440 --> 03:50:40,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and yung 1992 03:50:40,440 --> 03:50:42,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: election management 1993 03:50:42,440 --> 03:50:44,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: system po. 1994 03:50:44,440 --> 03:50:46,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito po ay whole package for the provider? 1995 03:50:46,440 --> 03:50:48,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yun ba? O yung 1996 03:50:48,440 --> 03:50:50,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 1.2 billion ba lahat sagot 1997 03:50:50,440 --> 03:50:52,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na nung 1998 03:50:52,440 --> 03:50:54,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: systems provider, o may 1999 03:50:54,440 --> 03:50:56,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: provider 2000 03:50:56,440 --> 03:50:58,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kada service? 2001 03:50:58,440 --> 03:51:00,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, 2002 03:51:00,440 --> 03:51:02,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sagot na po ng ating 2003 03:51:02,440 --> 03:51:04,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: provider lahat, except po 2004 03:51:04,440 --> 03:51:07,370 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung transmission po ng election. 2005 03:51:07,370 --> 03:51:08,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And printing of ballots? 2006 03:51:10,440 --> 03:51:12,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ballots rin po, 2007 03:51:12,440 --> 03:51:13,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kasama ang printing of ballots. 2008 03:51:13,960 --> 03:51:16,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So magkano po yung nagastos for the BARMM elections 2009 03:51:16,440 --> 03:51:18,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: plus all of these services? 2010 03:51:18,440 --> 03:51:20,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Lahat-lahat po 2011 03:51:20,440 --> 03:51:22,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang nagastos na po 2012 03:51:22,440 --> 03:51:24,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para sa atin pong 2013 03:51:24,440 --> 03:51:26,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: BARMM elections are more or less 2014 03:51:26,440 --> 03:51:28,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 3 billion pesos po. 2015 03:51:28,440 --> 03:51:30,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 3 billion? 2016 03:51:30,440 --> 03:51:33,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 3 billion po para po sa ating BARMM elections. 2017 03:51:33,640 --> 03:51:34,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So the Comelec now is in 2018 03:51:34,440 --> 03:51:36,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: preparation for the 2019 03:51:36,440 --> 03:51:38,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2028 national and local elections. 2020 03:51:38,440 --> 03:51:40,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Tama po? 2021 03:51:40,440 --> 03:51:42,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, Mr. Speaker. 2022 03:51:42,440 --> 03:51:44,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And Comelec is requesting 2023 03:51:44,440 --> 03:51:46,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 23 billion for 2024 03:51:48,440 --> 03:51:50,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: their budget for the 2025 03:51:50,440 --> 03:51:52,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: electoral 2026 03:51:52,440 --> 03:51:54,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: voting machines for the 2028 2027 03:51:54,440 --> 03:51:56,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: elections. Saan po ba nakapaloob 2028 03:51:56,440 --> 03:51:58,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na sa ating 2027 2029 03:51:58,440 --> 03:52:00,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: National Budget? 2030 03:52:00,440 --> 03:52:02,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang nire-request 2031 03:52:02,440 --> 03:52:04,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po ng ating 2032 03:52:04,440 --> 03:52:06,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Commission on Elections para po sa 2033 03:52:06,440 --> 03:52:08,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ating mga machines 2034 03:52:08,440 --> 03:52:10,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na budget po in preparation of 2035 03:52:10,440 --> 03:52:12,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 2028 elections are more or less 2036 03:52:12,440 --> 03:52:14,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 23.1 2037 03:52:14,440 --> 03:52:16,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: billion po. 2038 03:52:16,440 --> 03:52:18,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And this is 2039 03:52:18,440 --> 03:52:20,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang nasa po ngayon 2040 03:52:20,440 --> 03:52:22,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ay 21.66 2041 03:52:22,440 --> 03:52:24,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: billion po. 2042 03:52:26,440 --> 03:52:28,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: For the election 2043 03:52:28,440 --> 03:52:30,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: systems provider po, 2044 03:52:30,440 --> 03:52:32,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang nire-request 2045 03:52:32,440 --> 03:52:34,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: po ng Comelec is 2046 03:52:34,440 --> 03:52:36,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 23 point something billion, tama po ba? 2047 03:52:36,440 --> 03:52:38,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po. 2048 03:52:38,440 --> 03:52:40,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang proposed po is 2049 03:52:40,440 --> 03:52:42,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 16 billion, pero ang nasa 2050 03:52:42,440 --> 03:52:44,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: NEP po ng 2027 2051 03:52:44,440 --> 03:52:46,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ay 21.66 2052 03:52:46,440 --> 03:52:48,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: billion po. 2053 03:52:48,440 --> 03:52:50,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So papaano po sila 2054 03:52:50,440 --> 03:52:52,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: makakapagpa-bidding for 2027 2055 03:52:52,440 --> 03:52:54,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kung kulang po ang budget? 2056 03:52:54,440 --> 03:52:56,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Actually, yun po yung 2057 03:52:56,440 --> 03:52:58,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: nire-request po nila na maibigay 2058 03:52:58,440 --> 03:53:00,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung 23.16 billion 2059 03:53:00,440 --> 03:53:02,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kasi kukulangan 2060 03:53:02,440 --> 03:53:04,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: po tayo ng 9,310 2061 03:53:04,440 --> 03:53:06,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na machines. 2062 03:53:06,440 --> 03:53:08,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang magiging 2063 03:53:08,440 --> 03:53:10,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: resulta po nito ay longer lines, 2064 03:53:10,440 --> 03:53:12,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: longer queues po sa ating mga 2065 03:53:12,440 --> 03:53:14,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: precincts. 2066 03:53:16,440 --> 03:53:18,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Naibigay 2067 03:53:18,440 --> 03:53:20,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: po sa akin yung aking hiniling na 2068 03:53:20,440 --> 03:53:22,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mga terms of reference at 2069 03:53:22,440 --> 03:53:24,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung 2070 03:53:24,440 --> 03:53:26,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: resolution ng 2071 03:53:26,440 --> 03:53:28,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Comelec Advisory Council, 2072 03:53:28,440 --> 03:53:30,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: subalit ito po ay naibigay lang 2073 03:53:30,440 --> 03:53:32,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kanina kaya hindi ko pa po 2074 03:53:32,440 --> 03:53:34,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: nare-review. Kaya 2075 03:53:34,440 --> 03:53:36,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: magtatanong po ako ng ilan. 2076 03:53:36,440 --> 03:53:38,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: For the 2028 elections po, 2077 03:53:38,440 --> 03:53:40,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ano po ang gagamiting 2078 03:53:40,440 --> 03:53:42,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: makina? 2079 03:53:42,440 --> 03:53:44,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Wala pa po, 2080 03:53:44,440 --> 03:53:46,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, subject to bidding 2081 03:53:46,440 --> 03:53:48,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and subject to procurement. 2082 03:53:48,440 --> 03:53:50,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Terms of reference po ay draft pa 2083 03:53:50,440 --> 03:53:52,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hanggang sa ngayon, 2084 03:53:52,440 --> 03:53:54,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pina-finalize pa lang rin ng ating 2085 03:53:54,440 --> 03:53:56,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Comelec, 2086 03:53:56,440 --> 03:53:58,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: subject to the 2087 03:53:58,440 --> 03:54:00,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: recommendations po ng ating 2088 03:54:00,440 --> 03:54:02,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Comelec Advisory Council. 2089 03:54:02,440 --> 03:54:04,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So ibig pong sabihin wala pang 2090 03:54:04,440 --> 03:54:06,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: resolution ang Comelec as to 2091 03:54:06,440 --> 03:54:08,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the machines that will be used 2092 03:54:08,440 --> 03:54:10,970 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for the 2028 elections. Tama po? 2093 03:54:10,970 --> 03:54:12,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Wala pa po, 2094 03:54:12,440 --> 03:54:13,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker. Tama po. 2095 03:54:13,800 --> 03:54:16,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So still in the process of approval 2096 03:54:16,440 --> 03:54:18,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: by the Commission? 2097 03:54:18,440 --> 03:54:19,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, Mr. Speaker. 2098 03:54:19,980 --> 03:54:22,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Doon sa draft na terms of 2099 03:54:22,440 --> 03:54:24,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: reference, 2100 03:54:24,440 --> 03:54:26,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: totoo po ba na ang bibili natin ngayon, 2101 03:54:26,440 --> 03:54:28,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang ating gagamitin ngayon 2102 03:54:28,440 --> 03:54:30,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: o i-lease 2103 03:54:30,440 --> 03:54:32,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ay 2104 03:54:32,440 --> 03:54:34,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: brand new machines? Tama po ba? 2105 03:54:34,440 --> 03:54:36,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, 2106 03:54:36,440 --> 03:54:38,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, 2107 03:54:38,440 --> 03:54:40,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: bago po. 2108 03:54:40,440 --> 03:54:42,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito po ba ay 2109 03:54:42,440 --> 03:54:44,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: desisyon at rekomendasyon 2110 03:54:44,440 --> 03:54:46,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng Comelec Advisory Council? 2111 03:54:46,440 --> 03:54:48,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Doon po ba sa ginawa nilang 2112 03:54:48,440 --> 03:54:50,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: rekomendasyon kasama po yung term na 2113 03:54:50,440 --> 03:54:52,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: brand new? 2114 03:55:02,000 --> 03:55:02,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Mr. Speaker, 2115 03:55:02,440 --> 03:55:04,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: lahat po bago 2116 03:55:04,440 --> 03:55:06,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung 2117 03:55:06,440 --> 03:55:08,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: subject po ng ating 2118 03:55:08,440 --> 03:55:10,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: gagawing procurement. 2119 03:55:10,440 --> 03:55:12,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And this is the recommendation 2120 03:55:12,440 --> 03:55:14,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: of the Comelec Advisory Council? 2121 03:55:14,440 --> 03:55:16,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Wala pong specific 2122 03:55:16,440 --> 03:55:18,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: na nilagay po para sa 2123 03:55:18,440 --> 03:55:20,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Comelec Advisory Council. 2124 03:55:20,440 --> 03:55:22,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So it is the decision of whom 2125 03:55:22,440 --> 03:55:24,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para po mag-purchase 2126 03:55:24,440 --> 03:55:26,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng mga bago? 2127 03:55:26,440 --> 03:55:28,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: It will be the decision of the 2128 03:55:28,440 --> 03:55:30,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Commission in accordance with the law. 2129 03:55:30,440 --> 03:55:32,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Well, it means that the 2130 03:55:32,440 --> 03:55:34,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Comelec Advisory Council 2131 03:55:34,440 --> 03:55:36,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: did not recommend 2132 03:55:36,440 --> 03:55:38,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: or did not comment 2133 03:55:38,440 --> 03:55:40,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: on the issue of whether 2134 03:55:40,440 --> 03:55:42,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: we can use the 2135 03:55:42,440 --> 03:55:44,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: previous machines 2136 03:55:44,440 --> 03:55:46,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: that we used in the 2137 03:55:46,440 --> 03:55:48,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2025 election, 2138 03:55:48,440 --> 03:55:50,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: machines that we used in the 2139 03:55:50,440 --> 03:55:52,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2025 election, because under RA number 2140 03:55:52,440 --> 03:55:54,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 9369, 2141 03:55:56,440 --> 03:55:58,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the CAC is 2142 03:55:58,440 --> 03:56:00,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: obliged to recommend 2143 03:56:00,440 --> 03:56:02,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the most appropriate, secure, 2144 03:56:02,440 --> 03:56:04,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: applicable and cost-effective 2145 03:56:04,440 --> 03:56:06,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: technology 2146 03:56:06,440 --> 03:56:08,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for the automated elections. 2147 03:56:08,440 --> 03:56:10,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Cost-effective. 2148 03:56:10,440 --> 03:56:12,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito po bang pagbili muli ng bagong 2149 03:56:12,440 --> 03:56:14,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: machine ay cost-effective? 2150 03:56:16,440 --> 03:56:18,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Well, 2151 03:56:18,440 --> 03:56:20,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, 2152 03:56:20,440 --> 03:56:22,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague, 2153 03:56:22,440 --> 03:56:24,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang rekomendasyon pa rin po is lease 2154 03:56:24,440 --> 03:56:26,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of new machines po yung 2155 03:56:26,440 --> 03:56:28,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: gagawin po ng Commission sapagkat 2156 03:56:28,440 --> 03:56:30,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung 2157 03:56:30,440 --> 03:56:32,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: bibilhin po natin, 2158 03:56:32,440 --> 03:56:34,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mas malaking budget po 2159 03:56:34,440 --> 03:56:36,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kailangan po ng ating Commission. 2160 03:56:36,440 --> 03:56:38,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Tama po. Bago ako magpatuloy, 2161 03:56:38,440 --> 03:56:40,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: nais kong maging malinaw. Hindi ko 2162 03:56:40,440 --> 03:56:42,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: hinihiling na automatikong igawad 2163 03:56:42,440 --> 03:56:44,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa Miro Systems ang 2028 2164 03:56:44,440 --> 03:56:46,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Automated Election Contract. 2165 03:56:46,440 --> 03:56:48,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi ako kumakampi sa anumang 2166 03:56:48,440 --> 03:56:50,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: supplier. Ang hinihingi 2167 03:56:50,440 --> 03:56:52,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ko ay simple at makatwiran: 2168 03:56:52,440 --> 03:56:54,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: huwag isara ng Comelec ang 2169 03:56:54,440 --> 03:56:56,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pinto sa 110,620 2170 03:56:56,440 --> 03:56:58,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: machines 2171 03:56:58,440 --> 03:57:00,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na ginamit noong 2025 2172 03:57:00,440 --> 03:57:02,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: national and local 2173 03:57:02,440 --> 03:57:04,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: elections bago pa man 2174 03:57:04,440 --> 03:57:06,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: magkaroon ng independent 2175 03:57:06,440 --> 03:57:08,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at financial evaluation. 2176 03:57:08,440 --> 03:57:10,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sa gitna ng fiscal crisis, 2177 03:57:10,440 --> 03:57:12,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: habang binabawasan ang pondo para 2178 03:57:12,440 --> 03:57:14,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa edukasyon, kalusugan at social 2179 03:57:14,440 --> 03:57:16,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: services, kailangang patunayan ng 2180 03:57:16,440 --> 03:57:18,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Comelec na ang paggastos ng 2181 03:57:18,440 --> 03:57:20,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: humigit-kumulang 23 billion 2182 03:57:20,440 --> 03:57:22,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para sa brand-new 2183 03:57:22,440 --> 03:57:24,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: fleet ay 2184 03:57:24,440 --> 03:57:26,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: tunay na kinakailangan, hindi lamang 2185 03:57:26,440 --> 03:57:28,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: dahil iyon ang gusto o mas komportable 2186 03:57:28,440 --> 03:57:30,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para sa ahensya. 2187 03:57:30,440 --> 03:57:32,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ang tanong ay hindi kung bago 2188 03:57:32,440 --> 03:57:34,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang makina. Ang dapat na 2189 03:57:34,440 --> 03:57:36,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: tanong: secure 2190 03:57:36,440 --> 03:57:38,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ba? 2191 03:57:38,440 --> 03:57:40,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maaasahan ba? Sapat ba ang performance? 2192 03:57:40,440 --> 03:57:42,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At alin ang pinakamabuti para sa bayan? 2193 03:57:42,440 --> 03:57:44,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Dahil kung 2194 03:57:44,440 --> 03:57:46,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: puwede naman yung nagamit 2195 03:57:46,440 --> 03:57:48,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: natin na may 99.997 2196 03:57:48,440 --> 03:57:50,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: percent na 2197 03:57:50,440 --> 03:57:52,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: accuracy, 2198 03:57:52,440 --> 03:57:54,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: bakit hindi natin puwedeng gamitin? 2199 03:57:54,440 --> 03:57:56,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit hindi natin payagan? 2200 03:57:56,440 --> 03:57:58,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ang ibigay nating 2201 03:57:58,440 --> 03:58:00,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: parameters hindi brand new. 2202 03:58:00,440 --> 03:58:02,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kasi po pag brand new, 2203 03:58:02,440 --> 03:58:04,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: tinatanggal mo na yung dati na 2204 03:58:04,440 --> 03:58:06,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: puwede pa naman. 2205 03:58:06,440 --> 03:58:08,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sabi ninyo nga kanina, 2206 03:58:08,440 --> 03:58:10,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 1.2 billion lang ang nagastos 2207 03:58:10,440 --> 03:58:12,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for 7,000 2208 03:58:12,440 --> 03:58:14,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: machines. Kung kukuwentahin ninyo yan, 2209 03:58:14,440 --> 03:58:16,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: we only spend around 15 billion 2210 03:58:16,440 --> 03:58:18,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kung gagamitin natin 2211 03:58:18,440 --> 03:58:20,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung nagamit natin sa BARMM 2212 03:58:20,440 --> 03:58:22,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ngayon. Pero kung 2213 03:58:22,440 --> 03:58:24,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: bago, 23 billion. 2214 03:58:24,440 --> 03:58:26,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 8 billion. 2215 03:58:26,440 --> 03:58:28,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit hindi po ito tiningnan 2216 03:58:28,440 --> 03:58:30,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng Commission 2217 03:58:30,440 --> 03:58:32,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: on Elections? Ano po ang dahilan? 2218 03:58:32,440 --> 03:58:34,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit brand new? Pangalawa, 2219 03:58:34,440 --> 03:58:36,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: alam ninyo noong 2220 03:58:36,440 --> 03:58:38,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2025 national elections, 2221 03:58:38,440 --> 03:58:40,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ako po ay nagpetisyon sa Korte Suprema. 2222 03:58:40,440 --> 03:58:42,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kinuwestiyon ko rin bakit hindi natin 2223 03:58:42,440 --> 03:58:44,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: gamitin yung binili 2224 03:58:44,440 --> 03:58:46,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng 2225 03:58:46,440 --> 03:58:48,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: gobyerno 2226 03:58:48,440 --> 03:58:50,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa Smartmatic. 2227 03:58:50,440 --> 03:58:52,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sabi nila 2228 03:58:52,440 --> 03:58:54,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: hindi na raw puwede, obsolete 2229 03:58:54,440 --> 03:58:56,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na raw. Ngayon po ba itong 2230 03:58:56,440 --> 03:58:58,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Miro na ginamit natin 2231 03:58:58,440 --> 03:59:00,400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na one time pa lang, obsolete na ba ito? 2232 03:59:00,400 --> 03:59:02,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, 2233 03:59:02,440 --> 03:59:04,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague, 2234 03:59:04,440 --> 03:59:06,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hindi naman po obsolete, pero yung 2235 03:59:06,440 --> 03:59:08,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kontrata po during that time ng ating 2236 03:59:08,440 --> 03:59:10,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 2025 elections ay 2237 03:59:10,440 --> 03:59:12,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: lease contract po talaga ang nasa terms of reference. 2238 03:59:12,440 --> 03:59:14,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi po ba natin puwedeng 2239 03:59:14,440 --> 03:59:16,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: payagan na hindi brand new 2240 03:59:16,440 --> 03:59:18,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang 2241 03:59:18,440 --> 03:59:20,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: i-le-lease natin sa 2028 2242 03:59:20,440 --> 03:59:22,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: elections kung 2243 03:59:22,440 --> 03:59:24,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mapapatunayan naman na puwede pa 2244 03:59:24,440 --> 03:59:27,900 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at kasing kalidad ito ng brand new? 2245 03:59:27,900 --> 03:59:28,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, 2246 03:59:28,440 --> 03:59:30,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: puwede pa rin naman po 2247 03:59:30,440 --> 03:59:32,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: pag-aralan, lalo na po 2248 03:59:32,440 --> 03:59:34,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: hindi pa po final 2249 03:59:34,440 --> 03:59:36,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang nakasaad sa ating terms of reference. 2250 03:59:36,440 --> 03:59:38,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So ibig pong sabihin puwede 2251 03:59:38,440 --> 03:59:40,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pang mabago yung terms of reference 2252 03:59:40,440 --> 03:59:42,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na ang kukunin nating 2253 03:59:42,440 --> 03:59:44,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sistema ay brand new? 2254 03:59:44,440 --> 03:59:46,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Puwede pa pong mabago. 2255 03:59:46,440 --> 03:59:48,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Puwede pa pong mabago, 2256 03:59:48,440 --> 03:59:50,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Mr. Speaker. 2257 03:59:50,440 --> 03:59:52,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At sana kung mababago man o hindi, 2258 03:59:52,440 --> 03:59:54,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: dapat po may malinaw na batayan 2259 03:59:54,440 --> 03:59:56,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang Commission on Elections. 2260 03:59:56,440 --> 03:59:58,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hinihiling natin na magbigay sila, 2261 03:59:58,440 --> 04:00:00,000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kasi po wala pa namang... 2262 04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:13,240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Wala pa akong nakikita na pag-aaral patungkol po sa kung ano ang requirements ng Commission on Elections 2263 04:00:13,240 --> 04:00:25,200 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para sa gagamiting mga machines for 2028 at hindi po natin tinignan yung possibility na maggamit itong 110,000 machines. 2264 04:00:25,200 --> 04:00:31,540 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito po, narito na. Ito po, hindi na ito mamanufacture. Kung kinakailangan, pwede lang i-upgrade. 2265 04:00:32,800 --> 04:00:37,700 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Makakamura tayo dito, akon, tinataya ko, 8 to 10 billion. 2266 04:00:38,300 --> 04:00:48,940 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ang masasave natin kung gagamitin natin ito, kung mananalo sa biding, kung hindi natin babawalan yung hindi brand new. 2267 04:00:49,420 --> 04:00:54,260 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Dito po, sa draft na terms of reference, 2268 04:00:55,200 --> 04:00:56,640 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pag hindi brand new, hindi na pwede. 2269 04:00:57,840 --> 04:01:02,760 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yun ang masakit. 110 million. Nandito na po. Nandito na. 2270 04:01:14,760 --> 04:01:24,240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano po ba ang Manufactured Certified Useful Life ng Makina ng Miro na ginamit natin noong 2025 National and Local Election? 2271 04:01:24,240 --> 04:01:27,980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Tatlong taon lang ba? Limang taon? O sampung taon? O higit pa? 2272 04:01:31,680 --> 04:01:46,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, pwede po siyang gamitin for three elections po talaga yung kapasidad po ng ating mga makita na pin-provide po ng ating provider ng Miro. 2273 04:01:46,020 --> 04:01:54,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So may independent engineering report po ba ang Comelec na nagsasabing magiging functional o secure pa ang mga makina. 2274 04:01:54,240 --> 04:01:55,320 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito for 2028? 2275 04:01:56,320 --> 04:02:11,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, base po ito sa DOST certification po at international certification entity na nagkakondak po ng verification po sa ating mga makina. 2276 04:02:12,560 --> 04:02:15,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So yun po ang kanilang ginamit. 2277 04:02:15,740 --> 04:02:22,880 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: May particular component po ba ang mga makinang ito na magiging obsolete pagdating ng 2028? 2278 04:02:24,780 --> 04:02:31,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, baka po yung scanner lang po yung kailangan palitan. 2279 04:02:32,600 --> 04:02:36,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Kung sa the rest, processor okay lang po. 2280 04:02:36,640 --> 04:02:46,840 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Battery, modem, operating system, security module, scanner lang po? 2281 04:02:46,840 --> 04:02:54,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang isa pang recommendation ng Commission ay yung fan po kapag medyo mainit po yung presinto. 2282 04:02:54,200 --> 04:03:07,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May mga cases po kasing nag-o-overheat yung ating makina. Yun po yung iniisip po nila o nire-recommend nilang idagdag sa terms of reference para po maiwasan yung overheating ng mga makina. 2283 04:03:07,500 --> 04:03:26,660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maaari po bang hilingin sa Comelec na bago magdesisyon sa final na terms of reference ng bidding for the 2028 election ay magharap ng independent engineering study ang Comelec na naghahambing 2284 04:03:26,660 --> 04:03:37,460 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: continued use with ordinary maintenance, refurbishment and upgrading, partial replacement ng defective units at complete replacement na mahigit 2285 04:03:37,500 --> 04:03:50,880 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 110,000 brand new machines? Kung pwede po magkaroon tayo ng comparative cost analysis at kung ano yung mga technical advantages ng bawat isa. 2286 04:03:51,620 --> 04:04:02,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pwede po, oo. Mr. Speaker, open po ang komisyon sa ganyang question. Kailangan lang rin po ng tulong po ng DOST kasi sila po yung namamahala po, 2287 04:04:02,240 --> 04:04:04,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with regard po sa technical specifications. 2288 04:04:04,480 --> 04:04:07,380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Mahalaga po na maipaabot to. 2289 04:04:07,500 --> 04:04:21,620 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sa pagkat gusto, ang kailangan natin sa Kongreso, mapatunayan na yung 23 billion talagang kailangan sa paggastos at panggastos ng bayan. 2290 04:04:21,620 --> 04:04:35,860 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam nyo naman na nakikita naman natin na napaka kaunti ng fiscal space natin ngayon. Only 16% lang po ang fiscal space natin. 2291 04:04:35,860 --> 04:04:45,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At yung 8-10 billion na matitipid ay napakalaking bagay para sa ibang mga pangangailangan ng ating bayan. 2292 04:04:50,540 --> 04:05:05,080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Gusto ko rin pong tanungin ng Comelec. Noong 2025 elections ay nagpakita ng humigit kumulang 99.997 accuracy ang mirror systems. Tama po ba? 2293 04:05:05,860 --> 04:05:07,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Tama po, Mr. Speaker. 2294 04:05:07,880 --> 04:05:12,120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: But accuracy is not the only measure. Kaya hinihingi namin ang buong performance record. 2295 04:05:12,120 --> 04:05:20,960 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ilang machine ang na-deploy? Ilan ang hindi nag-start? Ilan ang nag-malfunction habang bumoboto ang publiko? 2296 04:05:22,000 --> 04:05:27,420 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ilan ang na-repair? Ilan ang kinakailangang palitan? Ilan ang hindi nakapag-transmit electronically? 2297 04:05:28,380 --> 04:05:35,740 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ilan ang kinakailangang gumamit ng alternative transmission? Gano'ng katagal ang average waiting time para sa replacement? 2298 04:05:35,860 --> 04:05:46,480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ilang election protests ang direktang naugnay sa machine counting errors? Anong defects ang hindi kayang ayusin sa pamagitan ng ordinary repair or upgrade? 2299 04:05:46,800 --> 04:05:54,920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi ko lang po hinihingi na sagutin ito ngayon. Hinihingi ko lang po na maibigay sa atin yung mga sagot na ito sa lalong madaling panahon. 2300 04:05:54,920 --> 04:06:03,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Commission will comply. Ia-add lang rin po nila yung reports during the BARM elections rin po para po makonsolidate yung data. 2301 04:06:04,580 --> 04:06:04,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Regarding doon sa... 2302 04:06:05,860 --> 04:06:17,600 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Lilinawin ko rin po ulit. Hindi po nagrekomenda ang Comelec Advisory Council na ang gamitin natin for the 2025 elections ay brand new machines. 2303 04:06:18,520 --> 04:06:24,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi po, Mr. Speaker. More on technical issues lang po yung kanilang po narekomenda. 2304 04:06:28,680 --> 04:06:32,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nag-recommend ba ang Advisory Council laban sa reuse? 2305 04:06:35,860 --> 04:06:37,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi po, Mr. Speaker. 2306 04:06:38,800 --> 04:06:49,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Paano po nailagay yung brand new doon sa Terms of Reference? Hindi ba inuunahan ng Comelec ang isang technical question na ipinagkatiwala ng Batas Advisory Council? 2307 04:06:50,740 --> 04:07:01,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi naman po kasi, Mr. Speaker, finafinalize pa rin naman po yung TOR. Any suggestion coming from our colleagues and other partners po, welcome na welcome naman po. 2308 04:07:02,020 --> 04:07:05,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: But it was not discussed in the meeting. 2309 04:07:05,860 --> 04:07:20,560 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: It was not discussed in the meeting of the Comelec Advisory Council whether... Kasi po, napaka-critical nung reuse because it can save 8 to 10 billion pesos. Bakit hindi ito napag-usapan sa Comelec Advisory Council? 2310 04:07:21,360 --> 04:07:29,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Well, Mr. Speaker, more importantly, hindi po kasi parte ang Comelec ng Comelec Advisory Council. So, kaya hindi po siya napag-usap. 2311 04:07:29,980 --> 04:07:32,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ay, wala pong say ang ating komisyon. 2312 04:07:32,900 --> 04:07:33,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kung ano po yung 2313 04:07:33,980 --> 04:07:36,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: rekomendasyon po ng ating CAC. 2314 04:07:37,600 --> 04:07:45,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yung pagtatali po sa brand new hindi naman po nila minamandato. 2315 04:07:46,160 --> 04:08:02,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero, dahil po medyo rapid po yung changing technologies po ngayon, yun po yung naiisip o nai-envision po ng ating komisyon na gamitin para po mas sigurado dahil nga po may mga certain issues po ng overheating na na... 2316 04:08:03,980 --> 04:08:05,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ...experience po ng ating 2025 election. 2317 04:08:07,280 --> 04:08:18,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ibig pong sabihin, sa napakahalagang issue ng reuse, ay hindi po pinag-usapan ng Comelec Advisory Council ito? 2318 04:08:20,500 --> 04:08:30,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hindi po napag-usapan ng ating CAC ang ating kanyang rekomendasyon po, Mr. Speaker, kasi hindi po talaga parte ang Comelec ng CAC. 2319 04:08:33,980 --> 04:08:47,220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, ibig pong sabihin, binibigyan ng CAC ang Comelec ng Blanket Authority dating po sa issue ng reuse. Tama po ba yan? 2320 04:08:53,860 --> 04:09:03,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Mr. Speaker, hindi naman po Blanket Authority. Ang ating komisyon ay lagi pong kinukonsidera ang rekomendasyon po ng ating... 2321 04:09:03,980 --> 04:09:08,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ...Comelec Advisory Council at ang iba pong partners. 2322 04:09:08,800 --> 04:09:15,060 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sabalit, ito po ay isa sa pinakamahalagang technical issue, whether reuse is possible. 2323 04:09:16,340 --> 04:09:17,460 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit hindi pinag-usapan? 2324 04:09:19,040 --> 04:09:32,980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ito po ba ay, ano, kailangan pang ang inyong lingkod ang magpaalam sa Comelec Advisory Council para hihingin ang kanilang opinion pagdating po sa issue ng reuse? 2325 04:09:33,980 --> 04:09:47,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, hindi po silang pwedeng, ang ating komisyon, hindi po pong pwedeng mga alam kung ano po yung napag-uusapan doon. 2326 04:09:48,140 --> 04:09:55,260 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero yung ating pong question on reuse, open naman po ang ating pong komisyon, pag-aaralan po nila. 2327 04:09:55,260 --> 04:10:00,580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hayaan niyo po at tutulungan natin ang Comelec na tanungin ang Comelec Advisory Council. 2328 04:10:01,440 --> 04:10:03,960 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nasa ilalim po ng Republic Act No. 2329 04:10:03,980 --> 04:10:11,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 12009, the New Government Procurement Act, kinakailangan ng value for money, market scoping at lifestyle cost analysis. 2330 04:10:12,080 --> 04:10:19,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nagsagawa ba ang Comelec ng cost analysis bago nito iminungkahi ang 23 billion halaga? 2331 04:10:21,300 --> 04:10:25,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes po, Mr. Speaker, nagkasagawa po ng market scoping ating pong Comelec. 2332 04:10:26,940 --> 04:10:32,760 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At pwede niyo po bang i-discuss ito ngayon kung ano yung mga findings? 2333 04:10:33,980 --> 04:10:37,300 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Please, on how did you arrive with 23 billion? 2334 04:10:43,300 --> 04:10:53,340 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang base po sa kanilang market scoping, ang presyo po na kailangan niya ay 25.6 billion. 2335 04:10:56,500 --> 04:10:57,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Lease pa lang po ito. 2336 04:10:58,780 --> 04:10:59,040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pardon? 2337 04:10:59,460 --> 04:11:02,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Lease pa lang po, contract of lease, renta po. 2338 04:11:03,980 --> 04:11:04,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker. 2339 04:11:05,200 --> 04:11:09,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Meaning, magkano po per unit? 2340 04:11:17,580 --> 04:11:26,760 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang estimate price po niya, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, mga 180,000 per machine po. 2341 04:11:28,040 --> 04:11:33,940 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nagsagawa po ba ang Comelec ng consultation regarding sa mga posibilidad? 2342 04:11:33,980 --> 04:11:42,340 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Halaga ng reuse, halaga ng reuse ng 2025 machines, halaga ng upgrading, halaga ng pag-lease lamang ng karagdagang machines, 2343 04:11:42,820 --> 04:11:48,580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: halaga ng isang completely new system at expected useful life at residual value ng bawat opso. 2344 04:11:53,580 --> 04:12:00,800 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, sa ngayon wala pa po na nagagawa on the study regarding sa reuse po. 2345 04:12:00,800 --> 04:12:11,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, habang pina-finalize pa po yung ating TOR, wala pa pong final say ang ating pong Comelec regarding that matter. 2346 04:12:12,020 --> 04:12:17,600 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And, iniintay rin pong matapos rin po yung final counting nung sa Bangsamoro. 2347 04:12:19,600 --> 04:12:26,120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nagtataka lang po ako, Mr. Speaker, na we arrive at 23 billion without doing all these matters. 2348 04:12:26,760 --> 04:12:28,380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit hindi mo natin ginawa ito? 2349 04:12:28,380 --> 04:12:29,380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, upang na... 2350 04:12:30,800 --> 04:12:40,460 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pagkaharap sa budget, dito po, pag-ingin ng budget sa ating bayan, alam natin kung ano yung cost effective. 2351 04:12:40,780 --> 04:12:41,920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ngayon po, hindi natin alam kasi. 2352 04:12:42,660 --> 04:12:48,600 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi natin alam kung gagamitin natin yung dating machine kung kano ba ang magagasos natin. 2353 04:12:49,600 --> 04:12:59,680 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Gaya nga ng sinabi ko kanina, logically, mas mura yung magamit na natin. 2354 04:12:59,800 --> 04:13:00,400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kung po pwede ba? 2355 04:13:00,400 --> 04:13:03,660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sapagkat nandito na yung mga machines. Wala na yung logistics cost. 2356 04:13:08,200 --> 04:13:20,400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, ngayon po, kung tatanungin ko kayo, hindi nyo po masasagot kung magkano yung repurbish cost at upgrading cost nung Miro machine kung ito ang gagamitin natin. 2357 04:13:25,780 --> 04:13:27,540 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At least estimated po sa... 2358 04:13:27,540 --> 04:13:29,480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam ko naman na pakita sa bidding. 2359 04:13:29,680 --> 04:13:30,380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Saka mo malalaman. 2360 04:13:30,400 --> 04:13:37,940 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam ko naman kung ano yung cost. Pero yung estimated cost ng reuse compared to a brand new machine. 2361 04:13:40,440 --> 04:13:55,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, as of now po, hindi pa po napafactor in yung presyo ng ating pag-referbish ng mga nagamit na dahil hindi pa nga po final yung TOR. 2362 04:13:55,940 --> 04:13:57,940 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Tapos... 2363 04:14:00,400 --> 04:14:07,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: What does it mean that the Commission on Elections is hell-bent on leasing a brand new machine? 2364 04:14:07,960 --> 04:14:15,320 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Because they did not factor in existence of these old machines. 2365 04:14:15,720 --> 04:14:21,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, hindi naman po sila hell-bent to lease new machines. 2366 04:14:22,420 --> 04:14:29,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: They will study kung ano po yung pangailangan pa kung magre-reuse po ng ating mga machines na nagamit po ng... 2367 04:14:30,400 --> 04:14:33,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May 2025 National and Local Elections pati ng BARB. 2368 04:14:35,240 --> 04:14:44,400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano po bang particular na requirement ng 2028 ang hindi kayang gawin ng 2025 machines? 2369 04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:27,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, more on additional machines po, yung kakailanganin din, kailangan po mag-input ng ibang measures para po yung mga issues na experienced po noong 2025 elections, pati nitong BARM, iayos na rin po, ma-incorporate po sa ating mga machines na i-release, if ever, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 2370 04:15:27,060 --> 04:15:36,560 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I have several questions here. Hindi ko na po inihiling na sagutin nyo na rin kagad ngayon. Maaari lang po maibigay sa akin ng kasagutan sa lalong magdaling panahon. 2371 04:15:37,080 --> 04:15:39,160 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kaya ba nilang mag-scan ng mas mahabang balot? 2372 04:15:40,920 --> 04:15:47,560 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maaari bang i-reconfigure ang software para sa President at Vice President nitong mga lumang machine? 2373 04:15:48,120 --> 04:15:51,140 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maaari bang i-upgrade ang memory, modem, batteries, o processors? 2374 04:15:51,140 --> 04:15:56,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kung mas marami ang precincts, bakit hindi na lamang mag-lease o kumuha ng karagdagang machines? 2375 04:15:57,060 --> 04:16:00,960 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kaysa halip na palitan ng 110,620 machines. 2376 04:16:02,400 --> 04:16:13,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kailangan siguro po ay i-quantify talaga ng COMELEC yung additional workload, tukuyin ang eksaktong hardware limitation bago tayo mag-desisyon. 2377 04:16:14,180 --> 04:16:25,600 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kung walang malinaw na sagot, ang mas complex na presidential election ay slogan lamang, hindi bidding, sapagkat nakita ko po maraming mga violations. 2378 04:16:25,980 --> 04:16:26,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: In fact, 2379 04:16:27,060 --> 04:16:42,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: One of my allegations was gumamit lang yung Miro ng isang kumpanya para maabot yung kanyang contracting capacity. 2380 04:16:42,580 --> 04:16:45,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At yung kumpanya po na yan ay yung mga nakakulong na ngayon. 2381 04:16:46,000 --> 04:16:47,040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Siguro po, alam nyo. 2382 04:16:47,400 --> 04:16:57,020 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, mahalaga po na maging malinaw in terms of reference natin para hindi masisentro baka mangyari yan isang bidder na naman. 2383 04:16:57,060 --> 04:17:05,700 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Baka yung terms of reference ay tailored fit sa isang bidder. 2384 04:17:05,840 --> 04:17:11,220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Siguro po, sa akin naman po, it's more of a caution rather than an accusation. 2385 04:17:11,840 --> 04:17:21,680 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Mas mabuti ngayon pa lang, mas malinaw na kaysa dubating doon sa punto na kinakailangan na naman ang inyong lingkod ay mag-file ng kaso sa Korte Suprema. 2386 04:17:21,860 --> 04:17:24,480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Mas mabuti pa ngayon pa lang, maisaayos na. 2387 04:17:26,180 --> 04:17:27,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, 2388 04:17:27,060 --> 04:17:32,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Tama po yung ating kasamahan po dito sa Kongreso. 2389 04:17:32,820 --> 04:17:41,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The Commission will take into account lahat po ng suggestion at yung mga hinihingi pong mga kasagutan regarding po sa technical specification po. 2390 04:17:42,020 --> 04:17:50,240 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Lalo na po doon sa machines na ginawit po ng last national and local elections, sasabit po ng ating komisyon. 2391 04:17:50,680 --> 04:17:55,300 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Finally, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, 2392 04:17:55,640 --> 04:17:57,040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: meron po akong ilang mga kasusunod. 2393 04:17:57,060 --> 04:18:09,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: May mga katanungan na nais ko din masagot ng Commission on Elections upang masiguro natin na magiging mas maayos ang procurement natin for the 2028 elections. 2394 04:18:09,740 --> 04:18:22,880 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Unang tanong, siguro po kailangan sagutin ng malinaw, may independent study ba na nagsasabing safe o unsafe yung 2025 machines na ginamit natin? 2395 04:18:24,340 --> 04:18:26,340 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: May independent study ba? 2396 04:18:27,060 --> 04:18:30,400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: technically obsolete 2397 04:18:30,400 --> 04:18:31,920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: o hindi pa ang mga ito? 2398 04:18:32,940 --> 04:18:34,220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Natukoy na ba ng Comelec 2399 04:18:34,220 --> 04:18:36,360 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang remaining useful life ng machines? 2400 04:18:38,140 --> 04:18:40,040 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Congressman Erice, your time is up. 2401 04:18:40,320 --> 04:18:41,260 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Kindly wind up, please. 2402 04:18:41,260 --> 04:18:44,080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes, I'm winding up. This is my final... 2403 04:18:44,080 --> 04:18:44,520 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you. 2404 04:18:46,260 --> 04:18:47,640 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Natukoy na ba ang halaga ng 2405 04:18:47,640 --> 04:18:50,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: refurbishment and upgrading nito? 2406 04:18:50,100 --> 04:18:51,660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At kung magkano? 2407 04:18:52,280 --> 04:18:53,220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nakumpleto na ba ang 2408 04:18:53,220 --> 04:18:55,920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: life cycle cost comparison? 2409 04:18:55,920 --> 04:18:57,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes or no? 2410 04:18:57,680 --> 04:18:58,640 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nag-recommend ba? 2411 04:18:59,340 --> 04:19:01,800 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kailangan siguro po na muling konsultuhin 2412 04:19:01,800 --> 04:19:04,160 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang advisory council tungkol dito. 2413 04:19:06,700 --> 04:19:08,160 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sinumite ba ng Comelec 2414 04:19:08,160 --> 04:19:09,920 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa Kongreso ang resolution 2415 04:19:09,920 --> 04:19:11,540 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: minutes at technical studies? 2416 04:19:12,740 --> 04:19:14,520 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Papayagan ba ng terms of reference 2417 04:19:14,520 --> 04:19:16,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang qualified bidder na mag-aalok 2418 04:19:16,180 --> 04:19:18,320 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng proven, secure, and upgraded machines? 2419 04:19:19,440 --> 04:19:20,260 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sumasangayon ba 2420 04:19:20,260 --> 04:19:22,120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang Comelec na walang final decision 2421 04:19:22,120 --> 04:19:24,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: hanggat hindi nakakatanggap ang Kongreso 2422 04:19:24,180 --> 04:19:25,380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng independent, 2423 04:19:25,380 --> 04:19:27,460 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: itemized, at auditable 2424 04:19:27,460 --> 04:19:29,480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: comparison ng lahat 2425 04:19:29,480 --> 04:19:30,760 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng options? 2426 04:19:31,300 --> 04:19:33,260 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yun lamang po at hinihingi ko 2427 04:19:33,260 --> 04:19:35,000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na masagot ito ng 2428 04:19:35,000 --> 04:19:36,520 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Commission on Elections. Salamat po. 2429 04:19:36,900 --> 04:19:38,960 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Commission will 2430 04:19:38,960 --> 04:19:41,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: submit po 2431 04:19:41,060 --> 04:19:42,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung lahat po ng katanungan po ng ating 2432 04:19:42,680 --> 04:19:45,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: distinguished colleague. As regards po 2433 04:19:45,020 --> 04:19:47,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: sa independent study, hinihintay lang rin po 2434 04:19:47,040 --> 04:19:48,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung katapusan po ng ating 2435 04:19:48,740 --> 04:19:49,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Bangsamoro 2436 04:19:49,440 --> 04:19:53,300 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: elections para po ma-incorporate po 2437 04:19:53,300 --> 04:19:55,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: yung conduct po ng elections. 2438 04:19:55,380 --> 04:19:57,140 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ang BARMM doon sa study po na gagawin 2439 04:19:57,140 --> 04:19:57,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng ating Comelec. 2440 04:19:58,400 --> 04:19:59,580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maraming salamat po. 2441 04:19:59,720 --> 04:20:00,120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you po. 2442 04:20:00,800 --> 04:20:02,830 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader. 2443 04:20:05,680 --> 04:20:08,000 Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize 2444 04:20:08,000 --> 04:20:09,460 Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: the Honorable Representative 2445 04:20:09,460 --> 04:20:11,860 Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela 2446 04:20:11,860 --> 04:20:13,600 Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Women's Party List 2447 04:20:13,600 --> 04:20:15,940 Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: to interpellate on the proposed budget 2448 04:20:15,940 --> 04:20:17,840 Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: of the Commission on Elections. 2449 04:20:18,080 --> 04:20:20,200 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Honorable Sarah Jane Elago 2450 04:20:20,200 --> 04:20:21,680 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: is recognized. Please proceed. 2451 04:20:24,260 --> 04:20:25,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat. 2452 04:20:25,380 --> 04:20:26,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 2453 04:20:27,280 --> 04:20:29,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: First, during the 2454 04:20:29,060 --> 04:20:31,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2027 budget briefing for Comelec, 2455 04:20:31,880 --> 04:20:33,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the Commission put great emphasis 2456 04:20:33,420 --> 04:20:35,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on voter registration 2457 04:20:35,340 --> 04:20:37,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to ensure that more Filipinos 2458 04:20:37,600 --> 04:20:39,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: are registered and are able to 2459 04:20:39,440 --> 04:20:41,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: vote before the 2028 2460 04:20:41,240 --> 04:20:43,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: national elections. In particular, 2461 04:20:43,640 --> 04:20:45,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the Commission has set 2462 04:20:45,300 --> 04:20:47,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: a goal to increase the number 2463 04:20:47,420 --> 04:20:49,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of registered voters from 2464 04:20:49,080 --> 04:20:50,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 1.2 million to 2465 04:20:50,940 --> 04:20:53,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2 million before the 2466 04:20:53,100 --> 04:20:54,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2028 national elections. 2467 04:20:55,380 --> 04:20:57,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, September 2026 na. 2468 04:20:57,580 --> 04:20:59,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maaari po ba nating malaman mula sa ating 2469 04:20:59,980 --> 04:21:00,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: distinguished sponsor kung 2470 04:21:00,820 --> 04:21:03,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ilang mga Pilipino na ang nadagdag 2471 04:21:03,160 --> 04:21:04,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga 2472 04:21:04,940 --> 04:21:06,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: registered voters? 2473 04:21:06,720 --> 04:21:08,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maaari po ba nating maihiwalay 2474 04:21:08,300 --> 04:21:11,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung ilan dito ang mga overseas 2475 04:21:11,080 --> 04:21:12,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Filipino voters? 2476 04:21:26,280 --> 04:21:26,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As of now po, ang number of 2477 04:21:26,980 --> 04:21:29,040 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: registered 2478 04:21:29,040 --> 04:21:30,500 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: overseas voters 2479 04:21:30,500 --> 04:21:33,100 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: as of August 12, 2026 2480 04:21:33,100 --> 04:21:33,980 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is about 2481 04:21:33,980 --> 04:21:37,440 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 1,014,701 2482 04:21:37,440 --> 04:21:38,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: voters. 2483 04:21:38,860 --> 04:21:39,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker. 2484 04:21:40,520 --> 04:21:41,400 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Hopefully po 2485 04:21:41,580 --> 04:21:42,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: madagdagan po ito 2486 04:21:42,060 --> 04:21:45,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ng mga 500,000 2487 04:21:45,120 --> 04:21:48,080 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: before the next 2488 04:21:48,080 --> 04:21:49,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: national and local election. 2489 04:21:49,940 --> 04:21:50,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, 2490 04:21:51,080 --> 04:21:52,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakita rin natin na merong 2491 04:21:52,780 --> 04:21:54,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: malaking pagbawas yung 2492 04:21:54,340 --> 04:21:56,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pondo pagdating 2493 04:21:56,520 --> 04:21:59,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa voters information and education 2494 04:21:59,260 --> 04:22:00,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: program. At nababahala 2495 04:22:00,420 --> 04:22:02,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po tayo dahil nang 2496 04:22:02,380 --> 04:22:04,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: humarap dito ang Department of Foreign Affairs, 2497 04:22:04,940 --> 04:22:06,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasabi po nila na 2498 04:22:06,260 --> 04:22:07,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang isa sa mga hamon 2499 04:22:07,580 --> 04:22:11,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa paglulunsad din nila ng overseas voting 2500 04:22:11,100 --> 04:22:11,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: registration ay yung 2501 04:22:11,340 --> 04:22:11,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kakulangan ng awareness 2502 04:22:12,060 --> 04:22:15,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating mga kababayan 2503 04:22:15,640 --> 04:22:16,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nagtatrabaho 2504 04:22:16,980 --> 04:22:18,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o kaya naman ay 2505 04:22:18,440 --> 04:22:20,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: naninirahan na overseas. 2506 04:22:21,360 --> 04:22:21,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At tungkol doon sa 2507 04:22:21,820 --> 04:22:24,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi lang po registration 2508 04:22:24,260 --> 04:22:26,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kundi pati doon sa 2509 04:22:26,280 --> 04:22:29,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bagong online voting system 2510 04:22:29,140 --> 04:22:31,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mangangailangan ng enrollment. 2511 04:22:31,580 --> 04:22:33,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maaari po ba nating malaman 2512 04:22:33,100 --> 04:22:35,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung pinag-aaralan ng Comelec 2513 04:22:35,300 --> 04:22:36,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung babaguhin ba 2514 04:22:36,080 --> 04:22:37,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang proseso na ito? 2515 04:22:37,740 --> 04:22:38,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maaari po ba 2516 04:22:38,660 --> 04:22:51,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kapag nag-register ka ay automatic na rin po na enrolled ang ating mga kababayan doon sa bagong sistema na ginagamit ngayon para sa overseas voting? 2517 04:22:51,320 --> 04:23:18,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, pinag-aaralan po ng ating komisyon yung suggestion po ng ating kasamahan na kapag nagka-register ka, naka-enroll na rin po. So marami pong activities ang ginagawa po ng Comelec para po 2518 04:23:18,660 --> 04:23:28,720 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mas mapaigting at mapadami po yung overseas registration para po sa ating Comelec. Nagsasagawa po sila ng iba?t ibang town hall meetings, lalo na po sa ating mga Filipino community leaders. 2519 04:23:28,720 --> 04:23:37,820 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pero dadagdagan pa po nila ng voters education on the full process po, lalo na po ng ating online voting na isinasagawa 2520 04:23:37,820 --> 04:23:42,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po sa convenience po ng ating mga kababayan abroad. 2521 04:23:42,820 --> 04:23:46,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May mga mock voting na rin po silang planong gawin and system demos. 2522 04:23:47,860 --> 04:24:01,060 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Pati mas madaling enrollment po sa kanila at help desk and feedback channels na pwedeng matawagan o mapagsabihan po ng ating mga kababayan abroad 2523 04:24:01,060 --> 04:24:04,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: through Komelec DFA and community partners. 2524 04:24:05,340 --> 04:24:07,780 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So nakalatag na rin po ang 2525 04:24:07,820 --> 04:24:12,540 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: mga plano ng komisyon para po mas mapaigting po yung ating registration sa overseas. 2526 04:24:13,820 --> 04:24:22,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat Mr. Speaker at magandang balita po na halimbawa meron po pakikipagtulungan sa OWA, sa Marina, sa DMW 2527 04:24:22,740 --> 04:24:29,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po bago umalis ang ating mga kababayang OFWs ay meron na silang gagawing registration 2528 04:24:29,620 --> 04:24:35,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kumaari nga ay maisama na rin yung enrollment para isahan na lang po na matatapos ito. 2529 04:24:35,520 --> 04:24:37,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At atin pong aabala. 2530 04:24:37,820 --> 04:24:43,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang mga kababayan ang ginagawang pag-aaral ng Komelec kung paano matitiyak na hindi lang mapapabilis 2531 04:24:43,080 --> 04:24:54,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngunit matitiyak na yung mga kababayan natin na registered na ay enrolled na rin dun sa bagong sistema na gagamitin para sa susunod na eleksyon. 2532 04:24:54,740 --> 04:25:02,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil Mr. Speaker, na ibalita rin sa atin ang Komelec noong budget briefing na para sa 2028 national elections, 2533 04:25:02,460 --> 04:25:07,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: internet voting na ang gagamitin sa 104 na post. 2534 04:25:07,820 --> 04:25:21,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang ibig sabihin po ba nito ay fully online voting na po ang ating gagamitin at hindi na po by post or in-person voting ang mangyayari para sa susunod na eleksyon? 2535 04:25:34,000 --> 04:25:45,990 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, fully online na po ang gagamitin po ng ating komisyon for the 2028 elections. 2536 04:25:45,990 --> 04:26:07,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, hindi po ba tayo nababahala doon sa mga concerns na dahil bago pa lang po ang ating sistema, marahil kinakailangan pa ng mas maraming oras para sa mas malawak na information and education effort para malaman ng ating mga kababayan na 2537 04:26:07,800 --> 04:26:11,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 100% ang gagamitin na po natin ay online voting. 2538 04:26:12,100 --> 04:26:27,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Marami pa pong mga concerns tungkol dun sa nabanggit ko na tila ba second process ng registration yung enrollment process na kailangan pang pagdaanan ng ating mga kababayan. 2539 04:26:27,060 --> 04:26:35,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po sa ngayon, yung pondo po na naibigay sa atin na nakalakip sa General Appropriations Bill para sa 2027, 2540 04:26:36,220 --> 04:26:37,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makukover po ba nito lahat? 2541 04:26:37,800 --> 04:26:53,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ng mga nais nating maabot sa ibang bansa, may it be through satellite registration overseas or through our collaboration with other agencies to reach more Filipinos overseas. 2542 04:26:54,240 --> 04:27:06,020 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, kulang po yung naibigay na budget para po sa ating Comelec regarding voters education with regard sa online voting po. 2543 04:27:06,020 --> 04:27:14,520 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang gusto po sana ng Komelec ay full process ang ma-inform po sa ating mga kababayan abroad. 2544 04:27:15,100 --> 04:27:18,700 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Maalaman po nila kung paano po gamitin talaga ang online voting. 2545 04:27:19,280 --> 04:27:25,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: At sa ngayon po, yung online voting and counting system naman po ay nagsasagwa pa rin po ng TOR. 2546 04:27:26,120 --> 04:27:34,200 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mas gusto pa rin po ng komisyon na maging user-friendly po para po sa ating mga kababayan abroad para po sa convenience nila sa pagboto. 2547 04:27:34,200 --> 04:27:36,000 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, may mga refinement po. 2548 04:27:36,020 --> 04:27:44,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang ginagawa sa ating online voting para po ba sigurado yung boto at yung pangamba po ng ating mga kababayan abroad ay mawala po. 2549 04:27:46,240 --> 04:27:59,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, tayo po ay nanghingi na rin ng assessment ng Komelec tungkol sa paggamit ng bagong online voting system na ito na ginamit sa una pagkakataon dito ng 2025 2550 04:27:59,280 --> 04:28:05,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at gagamitin muli sa mas maraming jurisdiction sa susunod na national elections. 2551 04:28:05,300 --> 04:28:09,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yan po ang aabangan natin mula sa ating distinguished sponsor at sa ating komisyon. 2552 04:28:10,680 --> 04:28:19,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pangalawa, meron din mga panukalang batas na sa ngayon ay subject na ng deliberation dito sa House of Representatives 2553 04:28:19,180 --> 04:28:29,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol naman sa pagkakaroon ng iba't iba pa rin na modalities pagdating sa pagboto at pagtitiyak ng pagbilang ng boto ng ating mga kababayan. 2554 04:28:29,700 --> 04:28:34,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na habang may option para sa online voting ay meron pa rin opsyon. 2555 04:28:35,300 --> 04:28:41,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: By post or in person kung ano ang pinakaabot kamay sa ating mga kababayan. 2556 04:28:42,260 --> 04:28:50,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lahat po yan para sa interes ng pagtitiyak ng kanilang karapatan sa pagboto, ng karapatan sa pagpili ng kanilang mga susunod na leader, 2557 04:28:51,360 --> 04:28:54,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating mga susunod na mamumuno sa ating bayan. 2558 04:28:55,240 --> 04:29:03,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po, nais kong magtanong, ginoong Speaker, tungkol sa katatapos na makasaysayang BARMM elections. 2559 04:29:05,300 --> 04:29:18,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang mga katanungan po ng kinatawan na ito ay tungkol sa katatapos lamang na barm parliamentary elections noong September 14, 2026. 2560 04:29:18,360 --> 04:29:34,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ito po ay batay sa mga tanong, sa mga obserbasyon ng mga grupo ng iba't ibang civil society organizations na accredited ng COMELEC bilang local observers sa nasabing parliamentary election. 2561 04:29:35,300 --> 04:29:47,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Una po, ano po ang naging aksyon ng COMELEC na kaugnay ng mga ulat mula po sa ilang mga lugar na merong mga botante na nagsabi, nagulat, 2562 04:29:47,600 --> 04:30:00,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hindi sila nakaboto dahil ang kanilang mga balota ay di umano'y pre-shaded na o mayroon ng mga nakamarkang mga pangalan ng kandidato bago pa po nila ito matanggap. 2563 04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:12,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Gaano ba kalawak ang mga ulat na ito? Nadinig na po ba ito ng COMELEC? At may sinasagawa na po ba sa ngayon na investigation para matiyak ang katotohanan sa mga ulat na ito? 2564 04:30:13,480 --> 04:30:24,680 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yung regarding po, specifically yung sa Maluso, Basilan, nagkaroon po ng pre-shading po ng ballots. 2565 04:30:24,680 --> 04:30:36,840 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang naka-discovery po ng pre-shading rin po na yan ay COMELEC. So ang naging action po ng ating buting komisyon ay ma-recall po yung mga pre-shaded na ballots. 2566 04:30:36,840 --> 04:30:52,740 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: At kinaalam na po, well may sampina na rin po lahat po ng posibleng nagtamper po dito po sa mga balotang ito based on sa chain of custody. 2567 04:30:53,680 --> 04:30:54,640 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ng mga balotang. 2568 04:30:54,680 --> 04:31:06,460 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ng mga balotang ito, actually kahapon po inilabas yung sampina po para po dito sa mga posibleng malagot po sa pre-shading po ng ballots. Mr. Speaker. 2569 04:31:06,700 --> 04:31:24,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, maari po bang magbigay ng espesipikong bilang ang ating distinguished sponsor kung gano po karami itong mga natanggap na mga reports na sa ngayon ay dumadaan na sa proseso ng verifikasyon at investigasyon ng ating... 2570 04:31:24,680 --> 04:31:26,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Commission on Elections. 2571 04:31:28,820 --> 04:31:47,900 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, based on sa mga reports po na sinasabi po ng ating buting kasamahan, more or less 10 reports po yung bine-verify nila regarding this matter sa mga insidente po sa Bangsamoro Elections. 2572 04:31:48,740 --> 04:31:53,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, kung meron na pong initial na report, ukol dito ang... 2573 04:31:54,680 --> 04:31:59,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Paari pong maisumite na lang sa ating Committee on Appropriations. 2574 04:32:00,500 --> 04:32:08,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nais ko pong magtanong, paano po ba natin matitiyak o ano yung ating mga hakbang para matiyak? 2575 04:32:08,540 --> 04:32:16,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Halimbawa yung transparency sa proseso ng pag-uulat ng ganitong tipo ng mga kaso. 2576 04:32:16,120 --> 04:32:23,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po ba silang timely na updating doon sa mga side ng mga... 2577 04:32:24,680 --> 04:32:33,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mahapag o naghahain ng kanilang mga complaint upang matiyak na agarang naaaksyonan ang ganitong tipo ng mga ulat? 2578 04:32:33,680 --> 04:32:54,220 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, na Commission ensures na open po sila sa mga ganitong updates po regarding po sa iba't ibang kaso. 2579 04:32:54,680 --> 04:33:01,620 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, ang gusto po nila, pag may mga insidente na kailangan po ma-report po sa ating Commission, 2580 04:33:01,940 --> 04:33:10,420 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: at least, paisabi po, ma-inform po sila para po immediately magawan po nila ng aksyon kung ano po yung nararapat, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague. 2581 04:33:11,060 --> 04:33:21,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, Mr. Speaker, tungkol naman po sa ulat rin ng malaking deployment ng military and uniformed personnel sa ilang mga lugar sa BARM noong panahon ng halalan, 2582 04:33:22,520 --> 04:33:24,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ano po ba ang naging batayan at layunan? 2583 04:33:24,680 --> 04:33:47,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At paano po tinitiyak ng COMELEC na ang presensya halimbawa ng military uniformed personnel o ng mga security forces ay hindi po nakakalikha ng anumang tipo ng pagbabanta o nantakot sa mga botante at hindi nakakaapekto sa malayang pagboto ng ating mga kababayan? 2584 04:33:47,980 --> 04:33:52,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, 2585 04:33:53,060 --> 04:33:54,660 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: more on yung focus po ng ating pong COMELEC, 2586 04:33:54,680 --> 04:34:05,120 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: during the BARM is yung mga red category areas, yung mga areas na may historical basis ng violence rin po during elections. 2587 04:34:06,080 --> 04:34:20,320 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ang kasigurahan lang po siguro ang mapapakita po na mapayapang nakaboto yung ating pong mga kababayan po mula sa BARM is dahil 84% po ang turnout ng voting sa ating pong Bangsamoro. 2588 04:34:22,060 --> 04:34:23,920 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Dahil po doon sa ganong data, 2589 04:34:24,680 --> 04:34:35,860 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: ito po ang napapakita ng data na ito is malaking tulong po yung ating pong kapulisan sa malayang pagboto po ng ating pong mga kababayan sa BARM. 2590 04:34:36,160 --> 04:34:37,880 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague. 2591 04:34:39,020 --> 04:34:54,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, higit po nating pag-aaralan ang isusumiteng initial report ng Comelec tungkol dito upang matiyak po natin ang interes ng malayang pagboto at ang pagkakaroon ng halalan na 2592 04:34:54,680 --> 04:35:24,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pantay, na patas at malinis po sa lahat ng mga naghahangad na ito ay buong-buong magtagumpay. Ngayon naman po, tungkol naman sa hindi lang po hiling pero panawagan ng representasyong ito, at nawa?y makasama natin dito ang distinguished sponsor. Napakalaki ho ng budget cut para sa programa na may kinalaman sa online voting para po sa ating mga 2593 04:35:24,660 --> 04:35:54,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: overseas na voters. Gayundin po, napakababa ng pondo para sa voter information and education program. Ito po yung mga programa na magtitiyak ng tagumpay ng halalan ay hindi po nakadepende lang sa Comelec. Pero magtitiyak na yung tao mismo, ang ating mga kababayan mismo, ay nakakaalam kung paano sila magbabantay at kung paano sila kasama sa pagtitiyak ng 2594 04:35:54,640 --> 04:36:00,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: karapatan sa pagboto at kung paano rin sila kasama sa pagtataguyod ng tunay na demokrasya dito sa ating bansa. 2595 04:36:00,880 --> 04:36:23,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sana po makasama natin ang distinguished sponsor sa panawagan na ma-restore sa 2026 level ang mga programang ito kung hindi man madagdagan para makahabol po tayo sa target na mas maraming registered voters para sa susunod na halalan. Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker. Maraming salamat, distinguished sponsor. 2596 04:36:23,600 --> 04:36:40,560 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Maraming salamat sa comment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, at thank you to our colleague na sumusuporta po sa madagdagan pa yung mga budget na nawala po sa ating komisyon. And we will submit po lahat po ng hinihinging impormasyon ng ating kasamahan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 2597 04:36:40,560 --> 04:36:42,200 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you. Majority Leader. 2598 04:36:42,200 --> 04:36:49,280 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Sergio Dagooc of APEC Party-list. 2599 04:36:49,280 --> 04:36:53,920 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Dagooc is recognized. Please proceed. 2600 04:36:53,920 --> 04:37:17,240 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Majority Leader. Mr. Speaker, there being no other members from the minority who wanted to interpellate, I move to terminate the period of interpellation and debate on the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections for fiscal year 2027. Mr. Speaker, thank you very much. 2601 04:37:17,240 --> 04:37:18,480 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: What does the House say? 2602 04:37:18,480 --> 04:37:27,960 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections. 2603 04:37:27,960 --> 04:37:42,800 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections. Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The interpellations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections are hereby terminated. 2604 04:37:42,800 --> 04:37:44,480 Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 2605 04:37:44,480 --> 04:37:45,210 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. 2606 04:37:45,210 --> 04:37:47,720 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes. 2607 04:37:47,720 --> 04:37:48,560 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Session suspended. 2608 04:41:03,600 --> 04:41:05,880 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. 2609 04:41:05,880 --> 04:41:08,640 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move that we now consider 2610 04:41:08,640 --> 04:41:11,760 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: the proposed budget of the Anti-Red Tape Authority. 2611 04:41:11,760 --> 04:41:13,600 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Is there any objection? 2612 04:41:13,600 --> 04:41:14,880 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: The Chair hears none. Motion is approved. 2613 04:41:14,880 --> 04:41:16,240 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. 2614 04:41:16,240 --> 04:41:21,820 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials of the Anti-Red Tape Authority. 2615 04:41:22,440 --> 04:41:39,480 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: They are Director General Ernesto Perez, Deputy Director General Lea Salcedo, Deputy Director General Rocco Jod, Echeverry, Deputy Director General Pua Billy Racho. 2616 04:41:39,480 --> 04:41:48,820 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials from the Anti-Red Tape Authority, headed by Director General Perez. 2617 04:41:49,260 --> 04:41:51,960 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader. 2618 04:41:53,000 --> 04:42:02,160 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I now move to recognize Representative Isabel L. Sagarbarria of the Second District of Negros Occidental, 2619 04:42:02,400 --> 04:42:10,480 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to answer questions on the proposed budget of the Anti-Red Tape Authority. 2620 04:42:10,480 --> 04:42:13,180 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Sagarbarria is recognized. Please proceed. 2621 04:42:14,820 --> 04:42:22,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, it is my honor and privilege to sponsor the proposed budget of the Anti- 2622 04:42:39,480 --> 04:42:55,140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Sorry, of the Anti-Money Laundering Council, of the Anti-Red Tape Authority, under the House Bill number 10858, 2623 04:42:55,140 --> 04:43:08,120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: or the Fiscal Year 2027 General Appropriations Bill, amounting to P436,720,000, since its establishment pursuant to Republic Act number 11032, 2624 04:43:08,120 --> 04:43:10,560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: or the Ease of Doing Business 2625 04:43:10,560 --> 04:43:13,660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and Efficient Government Service Delivery Act of 2018, 2626 04:43:14,560 --> 04:43:19,240 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTA has placed a significant role in reducing regulatory burdens, 2627 04:43:19,840 --> 04:43:21,520 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: streamlining government processes, 2628 04:43:22,100 --> 04:43:27,120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and encouraging government agencies to adopt more efficient and digitalized systems. 2629 04:43:27,900 --> 04:43:32,400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In just 80 years, ARTA has become a vital institution in our bureaucracy, 2630 04:43:33,280 --> 04:43:36,060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: delivering reforms that simplify processes, 2631 04:43:36,060 --> 04:43:40,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: reduce red tape, and strengthen public trust in government. 2632 04:43:41,260 --> 04:43:47,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The proposed budget of ARTA aims to ensure that the authority continues to function effectively, 2633 04:43:48,220 --> 04:43:53,220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: uphold reforms, and deliver on its mandate to make government services more efficient, 2634 04:43:53,860 --> 04:43:56,020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: transparent, and citizen-oriented. 2635 04:43:56,980 --> 04:44:02,060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Its proposed initiatives, including the enhancement of the digital platforms, 2636 04:44:02,060 --> 04:44:06,040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the Philippine-based regulation information system, 2637 04:44:06,600 --> 04:44:08,200 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: electronic complaints management, 2638 04:44:08,840 --> 04:44:14,020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and other digital-based programs are directed toward making government transactions 2639 04:44:14,020 --> 04:44:18,820 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: more accessible, transparent, and efficient for the Filipino people. 2640 04:44:19,760 --> 04:44:24,080 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: When we strengthen the ARTA anti-red tape authority, 2641 04:44:24,700 --> 04:44:26,440 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: we strengthen the government itself. 2642 04:44:26,680 --> 04:44:33,480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: To empower ARTA is to empower the entire bureaucracy to serve with speed, fairness, and integrity. 2643 04:44:34,540 --> 04:44:35,380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Let us remember, 2644 04:44:36,060 --> 04:44:39,560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: a government that defeats red tape is a government that delivers. 2645 04:44:40,300 --> 04:44:44,080 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The government that delivers is a government that earns trust. 2646 04:44:44,820 --> 04:44:48,700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The government that earns trust is a government that truly serves its people. 2647 04:44:49,600 --> 04:44:50,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In view of the foregoing, 2648 04:44:51,640 --> 04:44:54,500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: I respectfully seek the support of this honorable house 2649 04:44:54,500 --> 04:44:59,640 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the anti-red tape authority. 2650 04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:06,400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This representation is now ready to answer questions from our colleagues. 2651 04:45:07,200 --> 04:45:08,620 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader? 2652 04:45:09,140 --> 04:45:20,760 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I now move to recognize Representative Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of Party List 4K to interpolate the sponsor on the proposed budget of the anti-red tape. 2653 04:45:21,500 --> 04:45:25,880 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Iris Marie de Mesa Montes is recognized. Please proceed. 2654 04:45:25,880 --> 04:45:31,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Magandang hapon po, Distinguished Sponsor and to the ARTA. 2655 04:45:32,820 --> 04:45:38,920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ilang katanungan lamang po mula sa Kababaihan Kabalikatan para sa Kapakanan at Kaunlaran ng Bayan or 4K. 2656 04:45:40,620 --> 04:45:52,160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Una po, your budget, proposed budget for 2027 of 537 million is slightly higher than the current budget, mga around 14 million. Tama po ba? 2657 04:45:54,160 --> 04:45:55,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang itinaas. 2658 04:45:55,880 --> 04:46:06,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Based on the current year's budget, budget for 2027 is sufficient to perform your mandate of reducing red tape in government. 2659 04:46:10,820 --> 04:46:13,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: No. No, it is not, no. 2660 04:46:15,440 --> 04:46:21,520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ano po, what programs will be affected given this decrease in budget specifically? 2661 04:46:24,160 --> 04:46:25,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: What programs will be affected? 2662 04:46:25,860 --> 04:46:34,080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: What programs will be affected will not be funded, what processes will be compromised, what activities? 2663 04:46:42,800 --> 04:46:43,640 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay. 2664 04:46:44,080 --> 04:46:52,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: This reduction runs contrary to ARTA's direction of expanding its reach and strengthening the implementation, Republic of 11032. 2665 04:46:52,900 --> 04:46:55,840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The proposed cut will constrain ARTA's capacity to assist the government. 2666 04:46:55,860 --> 04:47:05,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The proposed cut will constrain ARTA's capacity to assist and capacitate government agencies in complying with the law directly affecting its mandate to reduce, if not eliminate, red tape in government services. 2667 04:47:06,040 --> 04:47:15,760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It will also delay ongoing systems development intended to speed up complaints handling, improve data gathering, and strengthen database security and management. 2668 04:47:16,760 --> 04:47:25,120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Our regional field offices, we likewise have to scale back orientation and inspection activities because of reduced funding for travel, 2669 04:47:25,120 --> 04:47:29,860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: fuel, supplies, training, and other operational requirements. 2670 04:47:30,300 --> 04:47:36,380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, these resources needed to translate the law into actual improvements in government services. 2671 04:47:37,040 --> 04:47:41,940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Reducing them will limit ARTA's ability to deliver the reforms expected of it. 2672 04:47:42,580 --> 04:47:43,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 2673 04:47:45,660 --> 04:47:53,280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Regarding po sa citizen complaints, how many complaints about red tape did ARTA receive last year for 2025? 2674 04:47:53,280 --> 04:47:54,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Given the total. 2675 04:47:55,120 --> 04:47:58,580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ilan po ang na-resolve within the mandated timeline? 2676 04:48:01,040 --> 04:48:07,760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, as of 2026, the total cases received was 12,335. 2677 04:48:08,760 --> 04:48:19,880 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And the resolved cases within the turnaround time is 11,208, which is 90.86%. 2678 04:48:19,880 --> 04:48:22,400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mataas po yung resolution rate. 2679 04:48:23,200 --> 04:48:24,400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung saka-sakali, 2680 04:48:25,120 --> 04:48:29,100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ano man po, ano yung mga five agencies that received the most complaints? 2681 04:48:29,560 --> 04:48:31,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Can you name the top five agencies? 2682 04:48:38,700 --> 04:48:39,260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay. 2683 04:48:39,260 --> 04:48:47,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The ten most complained government-owned and controlled corporations from January 2, August 31, 2026 2684 04:48:47,460 --> 04:48:52,280 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: are the Home Development Mutual Fund, Pag-IBIG, which is the highest, 2685 04:48:52,280 --> 04:49:03,060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Social Security System, GSIS, PhilHealth, Land Bank of the Philippines, PhilPost, 2686 04:49:04,120 --> 04:49:11,860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: National Transmission Corporation, Transco, NFA, Intellectual Property Office, 2687 04:49:12,980 --> 04:49:16,440 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Tourism Infrastructure and Enterprise Zone Authority. 2688 04:49:17,140 --> 04:49:21,440 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: These are the ten most complained government-owned and controlled corporations. 2689 04:49:22,280 --> 04:49:26,140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And then for the national government agencies, 2690 04:49:26,900 --> 04:49:31,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: we have the LTO, BIR, Food and Drug Administration, 2691 04:49:33,060 --> 04:49:37,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Philippine Statistics Authority, National Telecommunications Commission, 2692 04:49:38,840 --> 04:49:44,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Department of Education, Land Registration Authority, Register of Deeds, 2693 04:49:45,100 --> 04:49:51,180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Professional Regulation Commission, PRC, Department of Human Settlement and Urban Development, 2694 04:49:51,180 --> 04:49:52,180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and the Department of Education. 2695 04:49:52,280 --> 04:50:14,020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For local government, we have the government of Quezon City, of Taguig, of Caloocan, of Pasig, Paranaque, Malolos, Manila, San Jose del Monte, Makati, Muntinlupa, and Avao City. 2696 04:50:14,640 --> 04:50:16,000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Those are all, Mr. Chair. 2697 04:50:16,000 --> 04:50:17,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. 2698 04:50:17,700 --> 04:50:29,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, lahat po ba, have all agencies already established a public assistance and complaint desk or your ARTA help desk? 2699 04:50:30,280 --> 04:50:37,360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And is it also properly staffed to handle walk-in complaints, increase in feedback? 2700 04:50:38,360 --> 04:50:44,020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, lahat na po, ano pong porsyento ng mga opisinang meron ng ARTA help desk? 2701 04:50:44,400 --> 04:50:45,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 2702 04:50:45,320 --> 04:50:47,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, lahat na po meron? 2703 04:50:48,240 --> 04:50:52,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Minsan po kasi, Mr. Speaker, I've had this experience just last year. 2704 04:50:52,940 --> 04:51:02,720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: In one of the agencies that you mentioned, sa mga nasa top 10, meron po silang ARTA help desk, pero wala pong personnel. 2705 04:51:03,480 --> 04:51:09,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, yung personnel po, diba, the agency is mandated, sila po dapat ang magpo-provide ng personnel, tama? 2706 04:51:10,280 --> 04:51:11,720 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, the agency, not the ARTA. 2707 04:51:11,720 --> 04:51:17,540 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, how does ARTA check kung totoo yung mga help desk na yun ay properly manned talaga? 2708 04:51:17,700 --> 04:51:27,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Because they can always say, yung agency na yan or office na yan has established a help desk, but wala din pong tao yung help desk. 2709 04:51:33,000 --> 04:51:35,640 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yeah, I hear your frustration. 2710 04:51:36,240 --> 04:51:42,880 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, it's supposed to be under the law, agencies are all required to establish this ACD. 2711 04:51:45,600 --> 04:51:47,040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 2712 04:51:47,700 --> 04:51:59,040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung tanong ko po, Sana, how do you ensure, meron bang routine inspection na ginagawa ang ARTA to ensure that hindi lang help desk kang nandodon? 2713 04:51:59,240 --> 04:52:03,680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Dapat po talaga may tao the whole day to receive complaints? 2714 04:52:04,480 --> 04:52:13,860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, we have a compliance inspection and I'm sorry of what had happened. 2715 04:52:14,980 --> 04:52:17,400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Definitely, in the future, they will be doing that. 2716 04:52:17,700 --> 04:52:19,420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 2717 04:52:20,680 --> 04:52:26,240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Also, have all agencies established the Committee on Anti-Red Tape or yung CART? 2718 04:52:26,580 --> 04:52:29,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Lahat din po ba meron ng CART sa lahat ng opisina? 2719 04:52:30,400 --> 04:52:36,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ito po yung nag-I understand, yung nag-o-oversee po ng compliance with ARTA rules in each agency. 2720 04:52:37,460 --> 04:52:40,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And if, actually, if they're not compliant, they will be liable. 2721 04:52:40,960 --> 04:52:49,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: As of the present, the compliance rate is 70%. 2722 04:52:49,900 --> 04:52:57,460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ah, 70%. So, ano pa pong agency? So, madami-dami pa pong walang CART sa mga agencies nila. 2723 04:52:58,720 --> 04:53:05,460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, what will we do in order to force them to establish the CART? 2724 04:53:05,460 --> 04:53:10,280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Because it is a mandate under the ease of doing business law. 2725 04:53:10,960 --> 04:53:21,440 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: They will be issued notices to explain. 2726 04:53:22,640 --> 04:53:25,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Madam Sponsor. 2727 04:53:26,180 --> 04:53:30,720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Meron na rin po ba, lahat din po bang agencies, meron ng Citizens Charter? 2728 04:53:33,580 --> 04:53:35,580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 2729 04:53:35,580 --> 04:53:37,580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Have we issued... 2730 04:53:38,240 --> 04:53:40,800 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 98% compliance. 2731 04:53:40,960 --> 04:53:42,020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: 98%. 2732 04:53:42,020 --> 04:53:49,460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Have we ensured that of this 98% to have complied with the Citizens Charter requirement, 2733 04:53:49,900 --> 04:53:53,020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ay talaga pong sinusunod yung Citizens Charter? 2734 04:53:53,280 --> 04:53:55,760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi pwede rin pong compliance lang. 2735 04:53:55,900 --> 04:54:01,660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, how can ARTA find out? Do we find out which ones are just complying 2736 04:54:01,660 --> 04:54:05,740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: or which ones are following the Citizens Charter to the letter? 2737 04:54:05,740 --> 04:54:05,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you. 2738 04:54:10,960 --> 04:54:22,160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We require them to submit annual updating of the compliance. 2739 04:54:23,100 --> 04:54:24,180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 2740 04:54:24,200 --> 04:54:25,740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We conduct inspection also. 2741 04:54:25,780 --> 04:54:31,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Sponsor, pagdating naman po sa mga investigations and cases, 2742 04:54:31,220 --> 04:54:40,520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: how many show cause orders or cases were initiated against agencies or airing officials that violated the ease of doing business law? 2743 04:54:46,800 --> 04:54:47,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay. 2744 04:54:48,300 --> 04:54:53,160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTA investigated a total of 600 cases, Mr. Chair. 2745 04:54:53,300 --> 04:55:01,480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: May mga naparusahan na po ba dito, na-file-an na ng mga kaso, katulad po ng mga airing officials? 2746 04:55:01,800 --> 04:55:06,120 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nag-translate na po ba yan sa tinatawag nating accountabilities? 2747 04:55:06,120 --> 04:55:07,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 2748 04:55:07,360 --> 04:55:08,760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We were able to 2749 04:55:08,760 --> 04:55:11,220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: reach out to 373 2750 04:55:11,220 --> 04:55:12,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: total cases filed. 2751 04:55:13,640 --> 04:55:16,200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Madam Sponsor. 2752 04:55:17,460 --> 04:55:20,160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasama po sa mandato, di ba po ng ARTA, 2753 04:55:20,300 --> 04:55:23,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: you can recommend to the agencies, no? 2754 04:55:24,040 --> 04:55:26,280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pag nakita niyong may mali sa proseso, 2755 04:55:26,440 --> 04:55:28,280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa sistema, napakatagal, 2756 04:55:28,380 --> 04:55:31,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: so you recommend, may recommendations kayong binibigay. 2757 04:55:32,140 --> 04:55:35,980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ilan na po ang agencies na nabigyan ninyo ng rekomendasyon 2758 04:55:35,980 --> 04:55:40,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at ilan ang actual na sumunod po doon sa rekomendasyon ninyo? 2759 04:56:03,400 --> 04:56:05,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: There's a whole of government reengineering systems 2760 04:56:05,980 --> 04:56:08,780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and procedures that are being done. 2761 04:56:10,420 --> 04:56:13,280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Madam Sponsor. 2762 04:56:14,160 --> 04:56:18,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ilan na po, how many procedures were actually simplified ng ARTA 2763 04:56:18,820 --> 04:56:21,440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: since its establishment? 2764 04:56:35,980 --> 04:56:44,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay, for the TELCO, 2765 04:56:45,240 --> 04:56:49,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: required permits were reduced from 13 to 8, 2766 04:56:50,380 --> 04:56:53,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and then documentary requirements reduced from 86 to 35. 2767 04:56:55,100 --> 04:56:59,560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Processing time shortened from 241 days to 16 days. 2768 04:57:01,220 --> 04:57:05,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Approved telecommunications permit applications increased from 6,117 2769 04:57:05,980 --> 04:57:12,680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to 10,465 as of June 2026. 2770 04:57:13,460 --> 04:57:24,220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Fixed internet download speed improved from 93.96 Mbps to 102.79 Mbps for December 2025. 2771 04:57:25,220 --> 04:57:26,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. 2772 04:57:26,660 --> 04:57:31,520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung parang reason for existence ng ARTA is very simple, di ba? 2773 04:57:31,520 --> 04:57:35,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: To simplify, to bureaucrat, 2774 04:57:35,340 --> 04:57:37,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: to reduce bureaucratic red tape. 2775 04:57:38,080 --> 04:57:42,020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: In other words, parang pag-aanin ang buhay ng mga Pilipino 2776 04:57:42,020 --> 04:57:45,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: pag nakikipag-transact po sa mga opisina ng gobyerno. 2777 04:57:45,620 --> 04:57:47,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Paano po natin? How do we measure din? 2778 04:57:48,200 --> 04:57:53,880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ito, paano po natin nasusukat kung talagang naging effective yung ARTA sa trabaho nila? 2779 04:57:53,880 --> 04:58:01,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Does that manifest in the cases being filed every year ba? 2780 04:58:01,960 --> 04:58:05,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Bumaba ba? Does that mean konti na lang? 2781 04:58:05,340 --> 04:58:11,200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang mga dissatisfied sa transaction sa gobyerno? 2782 04:58:23,320 --> 04:58:32,000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We have a report card survey which serves as ARTA's mechanism for assessing compliance with the citizen's charter 2783 04:58:32,000 --> 04:58:34,000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and the service delivery requirements. 2784 04:58:35,340 --> 04:58:42,160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Using feedback from actual clients to evaluate efficiency, transparency and overall service performance. 2785 04:58:42,160 --> 04:58:46,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Through random sampling and validation of agency compliance reports, 2786 04:58:47,280 --> 04:58:54,740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the report card survey identifies areas for improvement and supports evidence-based reforms 2787 04:58:54,740 --> 04:58:59,740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: that help reduce red tape and enhance government services. 2788 04:58:59,740 --> 04:59:04,680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We also have the ARTA report card. 2789 04:59:05,200 --> 04:59:07,380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the harmonious clients 2790 04:59:07,380 --> 04:59:08,500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: satisfaction measurement. 2791 04:59:10,080 --> 04:59:11,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. 2792 04:59:11,420 --> 04:59:13,440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 2793 04:59:13,880 --> 04:59:15,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ito pong panghuling katanungan 2794 04:59:15,560 --> 04:59:17,180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na lamang po. Last 2795 04:59:17,180 --> 04:59:19,180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: question. Since 2796 04:59:19,180 --> 04:59:20,980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: the establishment po of ARTA 2797 04:59:20,980 --> 04:59:23,160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: in 2018 under 2798 04:59:23,160 --> 04:59:25,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: RA 11032, 2799 04:59:26,840 --> 04:59:27,480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: how 2800 04:59:27,480 --> 04:59:29,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: would you rate, on a scale 2801 04:59:29,220 --> 04:59:31,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: of 1 to 10, the agency's 2802 04:59:31,620 --> 04:59:32,940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: overall effectiveness 2803 04:59:32,940 --> 04:59:35,200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: in fulfilling its mandate 2804 04:59:35,200 --> 04:59:37,420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: to improve the ease of doing business 2805 04:59:37,420 --> 04:59:39,400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and reduce bureaucratic 2806 04:59:39,400 --> 04:59:41,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: red tape in the Philippines? 2807 04:59:43,300 --> 04:59:45,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: 1 to 10 rate? Okay lang naman po. 2808 04:59:45,540 --> 04:59:46,480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ARTA is a 2809 04:59:46,480 --> 04:59:49,020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: bago pa lang naman po kayo. 2810 04:59:49,140 --> 04:59:50,880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: You're what, 7 years? So 2811 04:59:50,880 --> 04:59:52,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: gusto ko lamang pong malaman. 2812 04:59:52,840 --> 04:59:54,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, 9 out of 2813 04:59:54,900 --> 04:59:56,940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: 10. Wow, 9 out of 10 2814 04:59:56,940 --> 04:59:58,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: po ang self-rating ng ARTA. 2815 05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:12,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, yeah, it's a work in progress. Madami pa po tayong dapat gawin para mapagaan ang pagtatransact ng ating mga kababayan sa mga ahensya ng pamahalaan. 2816 05:00:12,800 --> 05:00:22,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And Mr. Speaker, I would like to manifest my full support to the budget of ARTA dahil alam ko pong madami pa silang pwedeng gawin. 2817 05:00:22,840 --> 05:00:28,740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: We have a lot of room for improvement and I challenge ARTA to do just that. 2818 05:00:28,740 --> 05:00:34,080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Speaker, thank you, Distinguished Sponsor. Thank you, ARTA. 2819 05:00:34,720 --> 05:00:36,540 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader? 2820 05:00:36,660 --> 05:00:47,180 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, next to interpolate the sponsor, I move to recognize Representative Presley C. De Jesus of Partylist Filareka. 2821 05:00:48,040 --> 05:00:50,840 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Presley De Jesus is recognized. Please proceed. 2822 05:00:50,840 --> 05:00:55,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and to Distinguished Sponsor. 2823 05:00:57,780 --> 05:00:58,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If he's... 2824 05:00:58,720 --> 05:01:01,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If he wishes to wield some questions from this representation. 2825 05:01:03,120 --> 05:01:03,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you. 2826 05:01:04,440 --> 05:01:09,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My topic will be the monitoring and evaluation of EBOS implementation. 2827 05:01:09,240 --> 05:01:20,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My question, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, let us examine ARTA's primary operational line item, 2828 05:01:21,320 --> 05:01:28,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the monitor and evaluate compliance to RA-11032 activity under the... 2829 05:01:28,720 --> 05:01:35,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ...of doing business and efficient delivery of government services program in fiscal year 2026. 2830 05:01:35,780 --> 05:01:40,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: This activity received 153 million. 2831 05:01:41,120 --> 05:01:47,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In 2027 fiscal year, NEP, NEP, it drops to 91 million. 2832 05:01:48,040 --> 05:01:50,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So there's a difference of 40 percent, no? 2833 05:01:51,280 --> 05:01:57,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: More critically, the activities, MOEs is lost from 77.8 percent, 2834 05:01:57,980 --> 05:02:05,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: from 90 million and to just 20 million in 2027. 2835 05:02:05,960 --> 05:02:12,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is this budget reduction consistent with ARTA's mandate to eliminate bureaucratic red tape? 2836 05:02:18,780 --> 05:02:25,140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, since 2019, ARTA has been actively capacitating LGUs 2837 05:02:25,140 --> 05:02:27,140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to the need to set up and operationalize... 2838 05:02:27,980 --> 05:02:32,640 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ...the electronic business, one-stop shop for the permits and licenses. 2839 05:02:33,360 --> 05:02:36,560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And this is being done in collaboration with the ICP. 2840 05:02:38,720 --> 05:02:45,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, my question is about 2026 vis-a-vis to 2027 budget. 2841 05:02:45,840 --> 05:02:47,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Masyado malaki yung ibinaba. 2842 05:02:48,460 --> 05:02:53,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So let's concentrate from 2026 to 2027, wag na yung 2019, no? 2843 05:02:53,480 --> 05:02:57,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So bakit bumaba ng ganito kalaki? 2844 05:02:57,980 --> 05:02:58,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ang inyong budget. 2845 05:02:59,320 --> 05:03:10,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ito ba'y inconsistent ho ba ito sa tinatawag natin to eradicate or eliminate bureaucratic red tape? 2846 05:03:10,900 --> 05:03:14,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Gusto ko lang malaman bakit masyado binaba ng inyong budget. 2847 05:03:14,360 --> 05:03:22,040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, Mr. Speaker, this reduction runs contrary to ARTA's direction of expanding its reach 2848 05:03:22,040 --> 05:03:26,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and strengthening the implementation of Republic Act No. 11032. 2849 05:03:27,100 --> 05:03:27,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The proposed cut... 2850 05:03:27,980 --> 05:03:35,120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ...constraint ARTA's capacity to assist and capacitate government agencies in complying with the law 2851 05:03:35,120 --> 05:03:40,160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: directly affecting its mandate to reduce, if not eliminate, red tape in government services. 2852 05:03:41,020 --> 05:03:49,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In short, Mr. Speaker, with the reduced budget, so you cannot do your work properly, 2853 05:03:49,940 --> 05:03:51,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ganun ba lumalabas dito? 2854 05:03:51,880 --> 05:03:55,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because, you know, anti-red tape is supposed to have more budget. 2855 05:03:55,560 --> 05:03:56,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, because of this big cut... 2856 05:03:57,980 --> 05:04:03,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, you're telling me now, of course, not you, Distinguished Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, 2857 05:04:04,240 --> 05:04:09,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the red tape cannot work properly with the reduced budget. 2858 05:04:09,460 --> 05:04:09,940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes. 2859 05:04:09,960 --> 05:04:10,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Am I right? 2860 05:04:10,420 --> 05:04:11,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 2861 05:04:11,680 --> 05:04:17,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It will also delay ongoing systems government intended to speed up complaints handling. 2862 05:04:18,060 --> 05:04:26,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, Mr. Speaker, so how come when they send your budget, you know, to DBM, and, of course, it has to be justified, 2863 05:04:27,320 --> 05:04:27,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: how come... 2864 05:04:27,960 --> 05:04:34,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ...how come you allow them, and it's not a small amount, it's a huge amount, from one... 2865 05:04:34,300 --> 05:04:40,040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ...if I'm not mistaken, from 153 to 91 million. 2866 05:04:40,700 --> 05:04:42,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, there's a slush of over 60 million. 2867 05:04:42,900 --> 05:04:44,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, we are requesting to... 2868 05:04:46,480 --> 05:04:52,380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for an additional budget in the amount of 178,855,000. 2869 05:04:52,700 --> 05:04:57,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, the rationale behind this one, that's why we're trying to... 2870 05:04:57,960 --> 05:05:08,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ...to make sure that the ARTA ay mapalakas natin, to make sure to eradicate, if not totally eradicating the red tape, 2871 05:05:08,920 --> 05:05:10,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: eh, at least, ma-minimize natin, no? 2872 05:05:11,760 --> 05:05:16,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi marami na hong mga foreign investors, pagpunta rito, that's the first problem. 2873 05:05:16,640 --> 05:05:21,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: They said that we don't want to do business in the Philippines because of the red tape. 2874 05:05:22,040 --> 05:05:27,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, with the budget cut, nakatali ang dalawang kamay nyo. 2875 05:05:27,220 --> 05:05:27,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Paano lang? 2876 05:05:27,800 --> 05:05:28,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Huwag niyong pinalalakan nyo. 2877 05:05:28,960 --> 05:05:32,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, how can you do, perform properly pag gano'n? 2878 05:05:33,280 --> 05:05:40,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, I think, Mr. Speaker, kailangan natin to, during budget deliberation of the second reading, 2879 05:05:40,820 --> 05:05:43,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: kailangan natin palakasin ang hanay po ng ARTA. 2880 05:05:44,000 --> 05:05:51,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pag pababa kayo ng pababa, ibig sabihin, we are not in same wisdom na palakasin ARTA, kundi pababain pa. 2881 05:05:52,380 --> 05:05:55,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, definitely, we will support your budget for this, no? 2882 05:05:55,900 --> 05:05:57,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, moving on. 2883 05:05:57,800 --> 05:06:01,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Second, second interpolation. 2884 05:06:01,440 --> 05:06:12,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In connection to this, Mr. Speaker, ARTA's accomplishment report shows that out of 1,634 LGUs nationwide, 2885 05:06:13,260 --> 05:06:22,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: only 127 LGUs, or 7.77%, were fully compliant with the electronic business one-stop shop. 2886 05:06:23,080 --> 05:06:24,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ito ang sinasabi ko yung e-boss. 2887 05:06:24,460 --> 05:06:27,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: We passed the law to make sure everybody follows. 2888 05:06:27,800 --> 05:06:29,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Especially, LGU. 2889 05:06:29,580 --> 05:06:37,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But the problem, mandate as of 2025, when we passed that, I remember that vividly because I was one of the co-author of this. 2890 05:06:37,420 --> 05:06:42,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: A total of 722 LGUs, or 44% were partly compliant. 2891 05:06:43,040 --> 05:06:49,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 544 LGUs, or 33% had no e-boss, no? 2892 05:06:49,480 --> 05:06:50,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: They didn't follow. 2893 05:06:50,600 --> 05:06:55,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And 243 LGUs, or 14% made no submission. 2894 05:06:55,720 --> 05:06:57,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: With over 92%. 2895 05:06:57,800 --> 05:07:05,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 92% of LGUs not fully compliant with ARTA's plan to bring these remaining LGUs into full e-boss compliance. 2896 05:07:06,520 --> 05:07:12,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And what target number of LGUs does after expect to achieve by the end of 2037? 2897 05:07:13,340 --> 05:07:15,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano nangyari sa ating ARTA? 2898 05:07:16,140 --> 05:07:22,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: You know, out of 1,634 LGUs, 127 yung fully compliant. 2899 05:07:23,740 --> 05:07:24,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, what does ARTA's... 2900 05:07:24,800 --> 05:07:27,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Anong ginagawa ng ARTA? 2901 05:07:27,300 --> 05:07:28,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pag ganito lang yung atin. 2902 05:07:28,680 --> 05:07:30,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I'm talking about 20, ano to ha? 2903 05:07:31,040 --> 05:07:31,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2025. 2904 05:07:32,520 --> 05:07:35,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Back then, ang budget nyo malaki pa. 2905 05:07:36,360 --> 05:07:36,940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Go ahead. 2906 05:07:37,600 --> 05:07:42,000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, since 2019, ARTA's been actively capacitating LGUs. 2907 05:07:42,500 --> 05:07:48,980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: On the need to set up an operationalize the electronic business one-stop shop for the permits and licenses. 2908 05:07:49,660 --> 05:07:51,840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And this is being done in collaboration with ICT. 2909 05:07:52,060 --> 05:07:54,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What was I said earlier, kanina, no? 2910 05:07:54,340 --> 05:07:57,140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: However, there are other factors that we'll have to consider. 2911 05:07:57,300 --> 05:08:02,860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In the setting up of an e-boss, such as internet infrastructure, which is very important, 2912 05:08:03,580 --> 05:08:10,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: manpower capacity, and budget to procure necessary equipment, software, and hiring of IT personnel. 2913 05:08:11,180 --> 05:08:16,920 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Other systems separately developed, such as EFIS of the BFP, 2914 05:08:17,420 --> 05:08:23,040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: will also have to be integrated to have a seamless end-to-end processing of permits and licenses. 2915 05:08:23,040 --> 05:08:27,040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: To bring the remaining LGUs into full e-boss, 2916 05:08:27,300 --> 05:08:34,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: compliance, ARTA is continuously working with BFP for the integration of their system, 2917 05:08:34,300 --> 05:08:43,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and closely monitor the development phase of LGUs through the e-boss monitoring report that is regularly updated by the LGUs. 2918 05:08:43,300 --> 05:08:54,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For 2027, ARTA will endeavor to have 1,300 e-boss fully compliant LGUs that are located in the regions. 2919 05:08:54,300 --> 05:08:57,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor, 2920 05:08:57,100 --> 05:08:59,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: how much is your budget in 2025? 2921 05:09:20,100 --> 05:09:23,560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay, for 2025, the budget was 2922 05:09:23,560 --> 05:09:26,940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 493 million 2923 05:09:27,100 --> 05:09:32,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 514,359. 2924 05:09:32,100 --> 05:09:37,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, ito, back then, 2025, malaki na budget niyo, 2925 05:09:37,100 --> 05:09:41,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and the e-boss 2019 niyo pa inistart yan, 2926 05:09:41,100 --> 05:09:43,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: but only 100, 2927 05:09:43,100 --> 05:09:46,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it's not even fully compliant, but 2928 05:09:46,100 --> 05:09:48,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: today, with the meager budget 2929 05:09:48,100 --> 05:09:50,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of 97 million 2930 05:09:50,100 --> 05:09:52,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for 2027, 2931 05:09:52,100 --> 05:09:54,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: so how can you accomplish 2932 05:09:54,100 --> 05:09:56,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that all 1,600 LGUs, 2933 05:09:57,100 --> 05:09:59,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: will be compliant 2934 05:09:59,100 --> 05:10:01,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by the 2026, 2935 05:10:01,100 --> 05:10:02,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or 2027? 2936 05:10:02,100 --> 05:10:04,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi, kulang na yung budget niyo eh. 2937 05:10:04,100 --> 05:10:06,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, paano niyo mapapagalaw yan? 2938 05:10:09,100 --> 05:10:13,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, Mr. Speaker, I'm not blaming ARTAs dito, especially Director General Perez, no? 2939 05:10:13,100 --> 05:10:18,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because, hindi niyo talaga, ang kamay niyo tali kung wala kayong pondo. 2940 05:10:18,100 --> 05:10:25,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sabi nga nila, ang sasakyan, hindi naman under yan kung hindi gosalina, walang karga. 2941 05:10:25,100 --> 05:10:29,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kung gosalina niyo, kalahati, half gallon, half full tank, 2942 05:10:29,100 --> 05:10:31,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: kalahati lang, eh, hanggang doon lang kayo. 2943 05:10:31,100 --> 05:10:33,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, ano mangyayari sa atin? 2944 05:10:33,100 --> 05:10:35,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi, I'm very concerned. 2945 05:10:35,100 --> 05:10:38,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Remember, e-boss is a seamless 2946 05:10:38,100 --> 05:10:40,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: law na dapat mabilis na 2947 05:10:40,100 --> 05:10:42,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: para maging compliant. 2948 05:10:42,100 --> 05:10:45,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, Mr. Speaker, we are appealing for 2949 05:10:45,100 --> 05:10:47,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the additional budget 2950 05:10:47,100 --> 05:10:49,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for 2027 in the amount 2951 05:10:49,100 --> 05:10:53,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: of 178,855,000. 2952 05:10:53,100 --> 05:10:55,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And, um, 2953 05:10:55,100 --> 05:10:59,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and this will be 2954 05:10:59,100 --> 05:11:01,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for the 2955 05:11:01,100 --> 05:11:07,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTAs-K digitalization projects, including the enhancement 2956 05:11:07,100 --> 05:11:11,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and expansion of the electronic complaints management system, 2957 05:11:11,100 --> 05:11:14,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the Philippine Business Regulations Information System, 2958 05:11:14,100 --> 05:11:17,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and other digital platforms 2959 05:11:17,100 --> 05:11:21,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: that streamline government transactions and improve service delivery. 2960 05:11:21,100 --> 05:11:24,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It will also support regional transactions, 2961 05:11:24,100 --> 05:11:27,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: monitoring and enforcement activities, 2962 05:11:27,100 --> 05:11:29,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and public awareness initiatives. 2963 05:11:29,100 --> 05:11:31,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: These investments are essential 2964 05:11:31,100 --> 05:11:34,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to sustain ease of doing business reforms 2965 05:11:34,100 --> 05:11:36,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and expand their benefits 2966 05:11:36,100 --> 05:11:39,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to businesses and citizens nationwide. 2967 05:11:40,100 --> 05:11:42,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, uh, Mr. Speaker, 2968 05:11:42,100 --> 05:11:43,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Sponsor. 2969 05:11:43,100 --> 05:11:45,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, I'll go to Nehemia. 2970 05:11:45,100 --> 05:11:47,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor, 2971 05:11:47,100 --> 05:11:50,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ARTA is tasked under Program Nehemia 2972 05:11:50,100 --> 05:11:52,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or National Effort for the Harmonization of Epidemiology, 2973 05:11:52,100 --> 05:11:55,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the harmonization of efficiency measures 2974 05:11:55,100 --> 05:11:58,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of interrelated agencies 2975 05:11:58,100 --> 05:12:04,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to streamline regulation across key economic sectors, 2976 05:12:04,100 --> 05:12:08,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: including housing, telecommunications, 2977 05:12:08,100 --> 05:12:11,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: water supply and wastewater, 2978 05:12:11,100 --> 05:12:14,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: responsible mining, semiconductors, 2979 05:12:14,100 --> 05:12:19,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and to establish sector-specific one-stop shops. 2980 05:12:19,100 --> 05:12:22,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How many of these sectoral streamlining initiatives 2981 05:12:22,100 --> 05:12:24,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and one-stop shops 2982 05:12:24,100 --> 05:12:26,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: are already operational? 2983 05:12:26,100 --> 05:12:29,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What regulatory processes 2984 05:12:29,100 --> 05:12:31,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: have been simplified 2985 05:12:31,100 --> 05:12:33,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and what remains to be completed 2986 05:12:33,100 --> 05:12:36,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by fiscal year 2027? 2987 05:12:36,100 --> 05:12:38,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, 2988 05:12:38,100 --> 05:12:40,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the Nehemia sectors 2989 05:12:40,100 --> 05:12:43,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: are at the different stages of implementation. 2990 05:12:43,100 --> 05:12:46,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Telecommunication is the most mature 2991 05:12:46,100 --> 05:12:49,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and already has implemented streamlining reforms, 2992 05:12:49,100 --> 05:12:52,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: while the sector-specific one-stop shops 2993 05:12:52,100 --> 05:12:54,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for housing, 2994 05:12:54,100 --> 05:12:55,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: infrastructure, 2995 05:12:55,100 --> 05:12:56,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: flagship projects, 2996 05:12:56,100 --> 05:12:58,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: responsible mining, 2997 05:12:58,100 --> 05:12:59,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and ship building, 2998 05:12:59,100 --> 05:13:00,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and ship repair 2999 05:13:00,100 --> 05:13:03,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: are at the various stages of rollout or development. 3000 05:13:03,100 --> 05:13:05,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For telecommunications, 3001 05:13:05,100 --> 05:13:09,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the reforms are already producing measurable results. 3002 05:13:09,100 --> 05:13:12,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Under Executive Order No. 32, 3003 05:13:12,100 --> 05:13:16,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: required permits were reduced from 13 to 8, 3004 05:13:16,100 --> 05:13:19,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: documentary requirements from 86 to 35, 3005 05:13:19,100 --> 05:13:21,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and reported turnaround time 3006 05:13:21,100 --> 05:13:24,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: from 241 days to 16 days. 3007 05:13:24,100 --> 05:13:27,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Approved telecommunications permits 3008 05:13:27,100 --> 05:13:29,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: were also increased 3009 05:13:29,100 --> 05:13:32,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: from 6,117 in 2022 3010 05:13:32,100 --> 05:13:37,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to 10,465 as of June 2026. 3011 05:13:37,100 --> 05:13:39,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For housing, Mr. Chair, 3012 05:13:39,100 --> 05:13:42,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the streamlined regulatory framework 3013 05:13:42,100 --> 05:13:44,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: has already been institutionalized 3014 05:13:44,100 --> 05:13:47,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: through the Joint Memorandum Circular 3015 05:13:47,100 --> 05:13:50,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: finalized by 15 national government agencies 3016 05:13:50,100 --> 05:13:52,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: in June 2026. 3017 05:13:52,100 --> 05:13:55,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The next phase is implementation, 3018 05:13:55,100 --> 05:13:57,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: including the rollout of the 3019 05:13:57,100 --> 05:14:00,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Electronic Housing One-Stop Processing Center, 3020 05:14:00,100 --> 05:14:03,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: or EHOPC, 3021 05:14:03,100 --> 05:14:05,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: data sharing mechanisms, 3022 05:14:05,100 --> 05:14:07,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and the One Map System. 3023 05:14:07,100 --> 05:14:09,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For construction permit, 3024 05:14:09,100 --> 05:14:13,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTA is implementing Executive Order No. 59 3025 05:14:13,100 --> 05:14:14,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to streamline permits 3026 05:14:14,100 --> 05:14:17,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for infrastructure flagship projects. 3027 05:14:17,100 --> 05:14:18,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTA is now working with 3028 05:14:18,100 --> 05:14:20,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the Office of the Executive Order 3029 05:14:20,100 --> 05:14:22,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and the Executive Secretary, 3030 05:14:22,100 --> 05:14:24,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: DepDev, the ICT, 3031 05:14:24,100 --> 05:14:26,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and DOE on the framework, 3032 05:14:26,100 --> 05:14:27,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: road map, 3033 05:14:27,100 --> 05:14:29,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and technical architecture 3034 05:14:29,100 --> 05:14:32,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for the IFC one-stop shop. 3035 05:14:32,100 --> 05:14:35,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The target is to pilot the OSS 3036 05:14:35,100 --> 05:14:37,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for physical connectivity, 3037 05:14:37,100 --> 05:14:38,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: physical connectivity, 3038 05:14:38,100 --> 05:14:42,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: IFS in fiscal year 2027, 3039 05:14:42,100 --> 05:14:44,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: with priority given to projects 3040 05:14:44,100 --> 05:14:45,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: already approved 3041 05:14:45,100 --> 05:14:47,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: or outgoing government approval 3042 05:14:47,100 --> 05:14:49,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: where permitting reforms are expected 3043 05:14:49,100 --> 05:14:51,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to have the greatest impact. 3044 05:14:51,100 --> 05:14:53,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For responsible mining, 3045 05:14:53,100 --> 05:14:56,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTA is working with DENR 3046 05:14:56,100 --> 05:14:58,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and the concerned regulatory offices 3047 05:14:58,100 --> 05:15:00,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to streamline the initial stage of 3048 05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:03,340 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: of mining-related processes exploration stage 3049 05:15:03,340 --> 05:15:07,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and develop the electronic mining one-stop shop or EMOS 3050 05:15:07,420 --> 05:15:10,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: through the issuance of the JNC. 3051 05:15:11,660 --> 05:15:16,240 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ADB technical assistance from September 2026 to August 2027 3052 05:15:16,240 --> 05:15:21,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: will complement this work by reviewing and harmonizing the other stages 3053 05:15:21,320 --> 05:15:26,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: of the mining regulatory lifecycle, development and construction, 3054 05:15:26,900 --> 05:15:33,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: utilization, commercial operation, and decommissioning rehabilitation stages. 3055 05:15:34,260 --> 05:15:39,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The objective for fiscal year 2027 is to advance both the streamlined processes 3056 05:15:40,420 --> 05:15:44,220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and their digital integration through EMOS. 3057 05:15:44,920 --> 05:15:48,540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For logistics, particularly shipbuilding and ship repair, 3058 05:15:49,420 --> 05:15:53,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ARTA and Marina are finalizing a joint memorandum circular 3059 05:15:53,360 --> 05:15:56,860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: targeted for issuance in October 2026. 3060 05:15:56,900 --> 05:16:01,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The JNC shall provide for the streamlining, digitalization, 3061 05:16:02,940 --> 05:16:07,580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and interoperability of the SBSR license to operate, LTO, 3062 05:16:08,100 --> 05:16:10,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: process to the simplified and consolidated requirements 3063 05:16:11,720 --> 05:16:15,200 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and establishment of a SBSR one-stop shop 3064 05:16:15,200 --> 05:16:20,160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: with transition to an electronic OSS to the Marina BEST system. 3065 05:16:20,960 --> 05:16:26,180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It shall likewise support investment, facilitation, and workforce development 3066 05:16:26,200 --> 05:16:32,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to an SBSR investor information package and coordinated training initiatives 3067 05:16:32,920 --> 05:16:39,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and strengthen governance and stakeholder coordination with an SBSR technical working group 3068 05:16:39,300 --> 05:16:42,780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: chaired by Marina with ARTA as co-chair, 3069 05:16:43,360 --> 05:16:48,620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: supported mechanism for monitoring, feedback, and periodic review. 3070 05:16:49,180 --> 05:16:56,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Therefore, Mr. Chair, the work for fiscal year 2027 is primarily about operationalization. 3071 05:16:56,900 --> 05:17:09,620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Sustaining the already implemented telecommunications reforms, rolling out EHOPC for housing, developing and piloting the IFC one-stop shop, 3072 05:17:09,620 --> 05:17:18,500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: advancing EMOS for responsible mining, and implementing shipbuilding and ship repair reforms and MARINA BEST. 3073 05:17:18,960 --> 05:17:25,620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: These are also the implementation activities that the additional funding discussed 3074 05:17:26,360 --> 05:17:28,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: earlier is intended to sustain. 3075 05:17:28,760 --> 05:17:29,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 3076 05:17:30,280 --> 05:17:31,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor, 3077 05:17:32,880 --> 05:17:34,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I have more questions but 3078 05:17:34,320 --> 05:17:35,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it's already anchored 3079 05:17:35,900 --> 05:17:37,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to the E-Boss so 3080 05:17:37,800 --> 05:17:40,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: with the meager budget, I don't think we 3081 05:17:40,340 --> 05:17:42,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: can continue my line of 3082 05:17:42,360 --> 05:17:44,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: questioning but at the same time, I'm appealing 3083 05:17:44,120 --> 05:17:46,040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to our committee of appropriation 3084 05:17:46,040 --> 05:17:47,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to put more money 3085 05:17:47,640 --> 05:17:50,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: on your budget. Paano nyo matatrabaho 3086 05:17:50,500 --> 05:17:51,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nga na may ginagawa nyo? 3087 05:17:52,020 --> 05:17:53,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, before I end my 3088 05:17:53,880 --> 05:17:55,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: interpolation, please, 3089 05:17:56,200 --> 05:17:58,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: let's put more money sa ARTA kung gusto 3090 05:17:58,260 --> 05:18:00,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: natin mawala ang red tape. Again, 3091 05:18:00,600 --> 05:18:01,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker, 3092 05:18:02,300 --> 05:18:03,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Sponsor, and to ARTA's family. 3093 05:18:04,640 --> 05:18:05,620 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Thank you very much. 3094 05:18:06,180 --> 05:18:07,960 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. Majority Leader? 3095 05:18:08,160 --> 05:18:10,520 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, next to interpolate, 3096 05:18:10,520 --> 05:18:12,080 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: I move that we recognize 3097 05:18:12,080 --> 05:18:13,800 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Representative Sergio Dagooc 3098 05:18:13,800 --> 05:18:15,180 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: of Partylist APEC. 3099 05:18:15,680 --> 05:18:18,280 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Sergio Dagooc is recognized. 3100 05:18:19,120 --> 05:18:20,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 3101 05:18:20,280 --> 05:18:21,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Majority Leader. 3102 05:18:23,180 --> 05:18:23,820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Magandang 3103 05:18:23,820 --> 05:18:26,020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: gabi po sa ating 3104 05:18:26,020 --> 05:18:28,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: lahat, especially to 3105 05:18:28,160 --> 05:18:30,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: the sponsor, my colleague. 3106 05:18:31,120 --> 05:18:32,480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Would the distinguished sponsor 3107 05:18:32,800 --> 05:18:33,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yield to 3108 05:18:33,500 --> 05:18:35,800 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: only one issue. 3109 05:18:40,080 --> 05:18:41,520 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 3110 05:18:42,100 --> 05:18:42,680 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, 3111 05:18:43,680 --> 05:18:44,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: distinct sponsor. 3112 05:18:45,800 --> 05:18:47,460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: May data ba si 3113 05:18:47,460 --> 05:18:48,460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ARTA? 3114 05:18:50,780 --> 05:18:51,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ilang 3115 05:18:51,420 --> 05:18:53,340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: applicants na 3116 05:18:53,820 --> 05:18:56,340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: magtatayo ng power plant 3117 05:18:56,340 --> 05:18:58,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na natulungan ninyo mapabilis 3118 05:18:58,080 --> 05:18:58,960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ang permitting? 3119 05:19:03,700 --> 05:19:05,080 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We have no data, Mr. Speaker. 3120 05:19:05,720 --> 05:19:06,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: You have no data. 3121 05:19:07,400 --> 05:19:09,220 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, mayroon bang mga 3122 05:19:09,220 --> 05:19:14,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nagkokonstruct ng planta, 3123 05:19:14,480 --> 05:19:16,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: mga generating companies na 3124 05:19:16,500 --> 05:19:19,720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: lumapit sa opisina ninyo 3125 05:19:19,720 --> 05:19:21,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: para magpatulong 3126 05:19:21,520 --> 05:19:23,800 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na mapabilis yung permitting? 3127 05:19:32,720 --> 05:19:33,260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Based 3128 05:19:33,260 --> 05:19:34,720 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: on 3129 05:19:34,720 --> 05:19:36,480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: joint memorandum 3130 05:19:36,480 --> 05:19:37,760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: circular on energy 3131 05:19:37,760 --> 05:19:38,920 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: infra projects, 3132 05:19:39,840 --> 05:19:41,080 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: there was an increase of 3133 05:19:41,080 --> 05:19:42,800 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 71.7% 3134 05:19:42,800 --> 05:19:44,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: in permit issued. 3135 05:19:45,240 --> 05:19:47,640 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 2025, it was 1,429. 3136 05:19:47,900 --> 05:19:48,860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For 2026, 3137 05:19:49,320 --> 05:19:52,120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: it was 2,454. 3138 05:19:53,020 --> 05:19:53,800 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ganito na, 3139 05:19:53,820 --> 05:19:56,840 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Mayroon na lang, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 3140 05:19:59,040 --> 05:20:05,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nagkaproblema tayo sa Visayas, Mindanao, mga yellow at saka red alert. 3141 05:20:06,040 --> 05:20:13,560 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: One of the reasons is that pag nagtayo ka ng planta, it will take you 5 to 7 years. 3142 05:20:14,200 --> 05:20:18,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero ang pagtayo ng planta mismo, tatlong taon lang po yun. 3143 05:20:18,320 --> 05:20:20,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yung tatlong taon, permitting po. 3144 05:20:20,120 --> 05:20:29,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, may I just request an appeal to ARTA, kasi alam naman ninyo yung mandato ninyo, bakit kayo na-create, 3145 05:20:30,320 --> 05:20:42,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kindly sit up a unit that will coordinate directly with the Department of Energy, Energy Regulatory Commission. 3146 05:20:42,420 --> 05:20:49,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Makita ninyo doon sino yung mga binigyan ni DOE ng service contract. 3147 05:20:50,120 --> 05:21:02,020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Para magtayo ng mga planta, different types of technology, mga ano ba yan, coal, not gas, renewable, doon ninyo makita. 3148 05:21:02,020 --> 05:21:11,340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, huwag na kayong maghintay na lalapit pa yung mga nagtatayo ng planta sa inyo. 3149 05:21:11,740 --> 05:21:18,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tanongin nyo na, wala ba kayong problema sa EBOS, wala ba kayong problema sa permitting, i-assist nyo na. 3150 05:21:18,320 --> 05:21:20,020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi kailangan natin yun. 3151 05:21:20,120 --> 05:21:26,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi naghahabol tayo, we are inviting investors, nag-put up ng mga businesses. 3152 05:21:27,360 --> 05:21:33,560 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Every investor na magtayo dito, may kaakibat po yan na pangangailangan ng kuryente. 3153 05:21:34,120 --> 05:21:46,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ngayon kung hindi tayo mabilis magtayo ng planta dahil sa permitting process na more than 160 plus na permits bago ka makapagtayo ng planta. 3154 05:21:46,120 --> 05:21:49,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ma-assist man lang ninyo para mapabilis natin. 3155 05:21:50,120 --> 05:21:59,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi na tayo magkaroon ng yellow, red alert, rotating brownouts, then every time mangyari yan, tataas po yung presyo ng kuryente. 3156 05:21:59,120 --> 05:22:01,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Automatic po yan, tataas. 3157 05:22:01,120 --> 05:22:06,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pati po kayo dito sa Metro Manila, sa bahay ninyo, lalaki, tataas po yung babayaran ninyo. 3158 05:22:06,620 --> 05:22:18,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya, turungan natin ang ating sarili kasi yan yung trabaho ninyo, mapabilis para maraming planta, maraming supply, bababa po yung presyo. 3159 05:22:18,360 --> 05:22:23,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Can the ARTA commit on that? 3160 05:22:23,360 --> 05:22:25,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 3161 05:22:25,360 --> 05:22:29,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, maraming salamat ARTA, thank you Distinguished Sponsor. 3162 05:22:29,360 --> 05:22:31,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you Mr. Speaker. 3163 05:22:31,360 --> 05:22:41,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, Mr. Speaker, there being no other members from the minority who wanted to interpolate the budget of ARTA, 3164 05:22:41,360 --> 05:22:47,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I move to terminate the period of interpellation and debate on the budget of ARTA 3165 05:22:47,360 --> 05:22:49,460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: for fiscal year 2027. 3166 05:22:50,000 --> 05:22:51,200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So move, Mr. Speaker. 3167 05:22:51,780 --> 05:22:53,320 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. What does the House say? 3168 05:22:54,660 --> 05:22:55,700 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: Mr. Speaker, 3169 05:22:56,820 --> 05:22:59,820 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: the majority joins the minority 3170 05:22:59,820 --> 05:23:01,920 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: in the motion to terminate 3171 05:23:01,920 --> 05:23:04,220 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: the proposed budget of the 3172 05:23:04,220 --> 05:23:06,720 Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.: anti-red tape. 3173 05:23:07,920 --> 05:23:10,020 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: There is a joint motion to terminate 3174 05:23:10,020 --> 05:23:11,860 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: the interpolations in the proposed budget 3175 05:23:11,860 --> 05:23:13,620 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: of the anti-red tape authority. 3176 05:23:13,760 --> 05:23:14,500 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Is there any objection? 3177 05:23:15,460 --> 05:23:16,440 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Chair, here's none. 3178 05:23:17,360 --> 05:23:18,640 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: The motion is approved. 3179 05:23:19,120 --> 05:23:21,160 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: The interpolations in the proposed budget 3180 05:23:21,160 --> 05:23:23,120 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: of the anti-red tape authority 3181 05:23:23,120 --> 05:23:24,100 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: is hereby terminated. 3182 05:23:24,860 --> 05:23:26,600 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 3183 05:23:47,360 --> 05:23:48,040 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, 3184 05:23:49,080 --> 05:23:50,340 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: I move to consider 3185 05:23:50,340 --> 05:23:52,340 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: the proposed budget of 3186 05:23:52,340 --> 05:23:54,960 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: the Anti-Money Laundering 3187 05:23:54,960 --> 05:23:55,560 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Council. 3188 05:23:58,120 --> 05:23:59,240 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Is there any objection? 3189 05:23:59,540 --> 05:24:00,780 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Chair, here's none. The motion is approved. 3190 05:24:01,700 --> 05:24:02,200 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: The majority leader. 3191 05:24:03,480 --> 05:24:05,320 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, may we 3192 05:24:05,320 --> 05:24:07,160 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: acknowledge the heads of the 3193 05:24:07,160 --> 05:24:09,100 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Office of the Anti-Money 3194 05:24:09,100 --> 05:24:10,220 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Laundering Council. 3195 05:24:11,200 --> 05:24:12,580 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Attorney Ronel 3196 05:24:12,580 --> 05:24:15,100 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Buenaventura, the Executive Director. 3197 05:24:16,480 --> 05:24:16,960 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Attorney 3198 05:24:17,360 --> 05:24:19,720 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Reyes Santos Mendoza, 3199 05:24:19,940 --> 05:24:20,300 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Director. 3200 05:24:21,580 --> 05:24:23,780 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Attorney Emmet Rodion 3201 05:24:23,780 --> 05:24:25,080 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Manantan, Director. 3202 05:24:25,640 --> 05:24:27,380 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Attorney Arnold T. 3203 05:24:27,760 --> 05:24:28,980 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Cabanlit, Director. 3204 05:24:30,020 --> 05:24:31,680 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Attorney Andrew Cruz, Deputy 3205 05:24:31,680 --> 05:24:32,640 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Chief of Staff. 3206 05:24:33,140 --> 05:24:35,560 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Maria Liza Rizal Cruz, 3207 05:24:35,720 --> 05:24:36,040 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Manager. 3208 05:24:36,900 --> 05:24:39,740 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials 3209 05:24:39,740 --> 05:24:41,860 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: of the Anti-Money Laundering Council 3210 05:24:41,860 --> 05:24:44,140 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: headed by Attorney Ronel Buenaventura. 3211 05:24:44,980 --> 05:24:45,800 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Welcome to the House 3212 05:24:45,800 --> 05:24:46,480 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: of Representatives. 3213 05:24:47,360 --> 05:24:49,080 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. 3214 05:24:51,580 --> 05:24:53,620 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, I move that 3215 05:24:53,620 --> 05:24:55,140 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: we open the period of 3216 05:24:55,140 --> 05:24:57,240 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: sponsorship and debate. 3217 05:24:58,240 --> 05:24:59,120 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Is there any objection? 3218 05:24:59,380 --> 05:25:00,620 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Chair, here's none. Motion is approved. 3219 05:25:01,360 --> 05:25:01,980 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. 3220 05:25:02,720 --> 05:25:05,200 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: I move that we recognize the 3221 05:25:05,200 --> 05:25:07,380 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Honorable Vice 3222 05:25:07,380 --> 05:25:09,160 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Chair Maria Isabel 3223 05:25:09,160 --> 05:25:10,860 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Sagarbarria, 3224 05:25:11,640 --> 05:25:14,080 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Vice Chairperson 3225 05:25:14,080 --> 05:25:15,680 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: of the Committee on Appropriation 3226 05:25:15,680 --> 05:25:17,340 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: to sponsor the 3227 05:25:17,360 --> 05:25:18,200 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: proposed budget 3228 05:25:18,200 --> 05:25:21,380 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: of the Anti-Money Laundering Council. 3229 05:25:22,200 --> 05:25:23,440 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Vice Chair, Honorable 3230 05:25:23,440 --> 05:25:25,560 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Isabel Sagarbarria is recognized. 3231 05:25:25,860 --> 05:25:26,920 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Once again, please proceed. 3232 05:25:28,180 --> 05:25:29,480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, distinguished 3233 05:25:29,480 --> 05:25:31,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: guests, it is my honor 3234 05:25:31,360 --> 05:25:33,580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and privilege to sponsor the proposed 3235 05:25:33,580 --> 05:25:35,480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: budget of the Anti-Money 3236 05:25:35,480 --> 05:25:37,480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Laundering Council under 3237 05:25:37,480 --> 05:25:39,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the House Bill No. 10858 3238 05:25:39,960 --> 05:25:41,200 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: or the Fiscal Year 3239 05:25:41,200 --> 05:25:43,780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 2027 General Appropriations 3240 05:25:43,780 --> 05:25:44,980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Bill amounting to 3241 05:25:44,980 --> 05:25:47,340 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 144,870,000. 3242 05:25:47,360 --> 05:25:49,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The Anti-Money 3243 05:25:49,960 --> 05:25:51,020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Laundering Council 3244 05:25:51,020 --> 05:25:53,700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: as a hybrid financial intelligence 3245 05:25:53,700 --> 05:25:55,640 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: unit carries 3246 05:25:55,640 --> 05:25:57,740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: out responsibility that extends 3247 05:25:57,740 --> 05:25:59,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: well beyond its core mandate. 3248 05:26:00,200 --> 05:26:00,840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It monitors 3249 05:26:00,840 --> 05:26:02,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the compliance of 3250 05:26:02,420 --> 05:26:05,520 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: covered persons with the Anti-Money Laundering 3251 05:26:05,520 --> 05:26:07,080 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Act of 2001 3252 05:26:07,080 --> 05:26:09,660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and its implementing rules. 3253 05:26:10,200 --> 05:26:11,560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It is likewise mandated 3254 05:26:11,560 --> 05:26:13,180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to investigate money laundering 3255 05:26:13,180 --> 05:26:15,480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and terrorism financing 3256 05:26:15,480 --> 05:26:17,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and to seek the freezing 3257 05:26:17,460 --> 05:26:19,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and forfeiture of the 3258 05:26:19,100 --> 05:26:20,180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: proceeds of crime. 3259 05:26:20,360 --> 05:26:22,880 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: A significant portion of the proposed 3260 05:26:22,880 --> 05:26:24,500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: budget is dedicated 3261 05:26:24,500 --> 05:26:27,060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to information and communication 3262 05:26:27,060 --> 05:26:27,940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: technology. 3263 05:26:28,920 --> 05:26:30,440 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The AMLC's 3264 05:26:30,440 --> 05:26:32,120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: in-house artificial 3265 05:26:32,120 --> 05:26:34,760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: intelligence capability 3266 05:26:34,760 --> 05:26:36,820 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: which analyzes reports 3267 05:26:36,820 --> 05:26:38,520 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: within our own borders 3268 05:26:38,520 --> 05:26:39,540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and a blockchain 3269 05:26:39,540 --> 05:26:42,220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: analytic platform 3270 05:26:42,220 --> 05:26:44,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to trace laundering through 3271 05:26:44,460 --> 05:26:46,240 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: cryptocurrency. 3272 05:26:46,780 --> 05:26:48,140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: By harnessing 3273 05:26:48,140 --> 05:26:48,840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: modern technology, 3274 05:26:49,160 --> 05:26:51,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: we bolster the AMLC's 3275 05:26:51,320 --> 05:26:52,340 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: ability to detect, 3276 05:26:52,620 --> 05:26:53,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: investigate, 3277 05:26:53,740 --> 05:26:54,680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and prosecute 3278 05:26:54,680 --> 05:26:55,200 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: these crimes. 3279 05:26:56,150 --> 05:26:56,920 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Through this, 3280 05:26:57,280 --> 05:26:58,680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: we safeguard the integrity 3281 05:26:58,680 --> 05:26:59,940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: of financial system 3282 05:26:59,940 --> 05:27:01,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and foster an environment 3283 05:27:01,320 --> 05:27:01,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: that promotes 3284 05:27:01,960 --> 05:27:04,220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: sustainable economic growth 3285 05:27:04,220 --> 05:27:05,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for the Filipino people. 3286 05:27:06,140 --> 05:27:07,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In view of the foregoing, 3287 05:27:07,500 --> 05:27:08,760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: I respectfully seek 3288 05:27:08,760 --> 05:27:09,620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the support of the 3289 05:27:09,620 --> 05:27:10,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Honorable House 3290 05:27:10,300 --> 05:27:11,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: for the proposed 3291 05:27:11,320 --> 05:27:13,080 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Fiscal Year 2027 3292 05:27:13,080 --> 05:27:14,380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: budget of the 3293 05:27:14,380 --> 05:27:15,940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Anti-Money Laundering Council. 3294 05:27:16,540 --> 05:27:17,140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, 3295 05:27:17,160 --> 05:27:17,700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker. 3296 05:27:18,360 --> 05:27:19,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: This representation 3297 05:27:19,360 --> 05:27:20,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: is now ready 3298 05:27:20,360 --> 05:27:21,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to answer questions 3299 05:27:21,660 --> 05:27:22,740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: from our colleagues. 3300 05:27:23,360 --> 05:27:24,360 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Thank you very much. 3301 05:27:24,360 --> 05:27:25,360 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Majority Leader. 3302 05:27:27,360 --> 05:27:28,360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, 3303 05:27:28,360 --> 05:27:30,360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: I move that we recognize 3304 05:27:30,360 --> 05:27:32,360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Honorable Rene Coe 3305 05:27:32,360 --> 05:27:35,360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: from the Kabataan Party List 3306 05:27:35,360 --> 05:27:36,360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: to interpolate 3307 05:27:36,360 --> 05:27:37,360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: on the proposed budget 3308 05:27:37,360 --> 05:27:38,360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: of the Anti-Money 3309 05:27:38,360 --> 05:27:40,360 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Laundering Council. 3310 05:27:40,360 --> 05:27:42,360 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Representative Rene Coe 3311 05:27:42,360 --> 05:27:43,360 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: is recognized. 3312 05:27:43,360 --> 05:27:44,360 Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco: Please proceed. 3313 05:27:44,360 --> 05:27:45,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, 3314 05:27:45,360 --> 05:27:46,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, 3315 05:27:46,360 --> 05:27:47,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and good evening 3316 05:27:47,360 --> 05:27:48,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to our distinguished 3317 05:27:48,360 --> 05:27:49,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor. 3318 05:27:49,360 --> 05:27:50,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Will the distinguished 3319 05:27:50,360 --> 05:27:51,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor yield 3320 05:27:51,360 --> 05:27:52,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to a few questions 3321 05:27:52,360 --> 05:27:53,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation to 3322 05:27:53,360 --> 05:27:54,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: AMLC's budget? 3323 05:27:59,320 --> 05:27:59,638 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, 3324 05:27:59,638 --> 05:28:01,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker. 3325 05:28:01,080 --> 05:28:02,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maglalatag lang po ako 3326 05:28:02,480 --> 05:28:04,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng maikling konteksto 3327 05:28:04,320 --> 05:28:05,958 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bago po mag-proceed. 3328 05:28:05,958 --> 05:28:06,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Before I proceed 3329 05:28:06,760 --> 05:28:08,638 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with my questions, 3330 05:28:08,638 --> 05:28:10,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker. 3331 05:28:10,000 --> 05:28:11,718 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In 2021, 3332 05:28:11,718 --> 05:28:12,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Securities 3333 05:28:12,520 --> 05:28:13,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and Exchange 3334 05:28:13,400 --> 05:28:14,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Commission 3335 05:28:14,080 --> 05:28:15,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: released 3336 05:28:15,120 --> 05:28:16,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the SEC 3337 05:28:16,440 --> 05:28:17,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2021 3338 05:28:17,360 --> 05:28:18,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonprofit 3339 05:28:18,040 --> 05:28:18,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Organization 3340 05:28:18,760 --> 05:28:19,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or NPO 3341 05:28:19,920 --> 05:28:21,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Terrorist Financing 3342 05:28:21,200 --> 05:28:22,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sector Risk 3343 05:28:22,040 --> 05:28:23,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Assessment. 3344 05:28:23,440 --> 05:28:24,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This SEC 3345 05:28:24,360 --> 05:28:25,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: report says 3346 05:28:25,360 --> 05:28:26,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that information 3347 05:28:26,360 --> 05:28:27,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on cases 3348 05:28:27,360 --> 05:28:28,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: detected, 3349 05:28:28,360 --> 05:28:29,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: investigated, 3350 05:28:29,360 --> 05:28:30,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and prosecuted 3351 05:28:30,360 --> 05:28:31,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: was collected 3352 05:28:31,360 --> 05:28:32,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from AMLC's 3353 05:28:32,360 --> 05:28:34,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: financial analysis, 3354 05:28:34,360 --> 05:28:35,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: investigation, 3355 05:28:35,360 --> 05:28:37,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and legal groups. 3356 05:28:37,360 --> 05:28:38,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The 2021 3357 05:28:38,360 --> 05:28:39,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Terrorist Financing 3358 05:28:39,360 --> 05:28:40,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sector Risk 3359 05:28:40,360 --> 05:28:41,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Assessment 3360 05:28:41,360 --> 05:28:42,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: publicly reported 3361 05:28:42,360 --> 05:28:43,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SEC-registered 3362 05:28:43,360 --> 05:28:44,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NPO 3363 05:28:44,360 --> 05:28:45,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: under 3364 05:28:45,360 --> 05:28:46,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: different 3365 05:28:46,360 --> 05:28:47,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: classifications 3366 05:28:47,360 --> 05:28:48,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: covered within 3367 05:28:48,360 --> 05:28:49,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the scope 3368 05:28:49,360 --> 05:28:50,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the 3369 05:28:50,360 --> 05:28:51,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: assessment, 3370 05:28:51,360 --> 05:28:52,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which are 3371 05:28:52,360 --> 05:28:53,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: foundations 3372 05:28:53,360 --> 05:28:54,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: , 3373 05:28:54,360 --> 05:28:55,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: religious 3374 05:28:55,360 --> 05:28:56,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: organizations 3375 05:28:56,360 --> 05:28:57,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: , 3376 05:28:57,360 --> 05:28:58,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: education 3377 05:28:58,360 --> 05:28:59,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: providers, 3378 05:28:59,360 --> 05:29:00,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: other 3379 05:29:00,360 --> 05:29:01,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: service 3380 05:29:01,360 --> 05:29:02,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NPO's 3381 05:29:02,360 --> 05:29:03,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: including 3382 05:29:03,360 --> 05:29:04,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: parent-teacher, 3383 05:29:04,360 --> 05:29:05,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: livelihood 3384 05:29:05,360 --> 05:29:06,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and neighborhood 3385 05:29:06,360 --> 05:29:07,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: associations, 3386 05:29:07,360 --> 05:29:08,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and other 3387 05:29:08,360 --> 05:29:09,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: expressive 3388 05:29:09,360 --> 05:29:10,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NPO's 3389 05:29:10,360 --> 05:29:11,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: political, 3390 05:29:11,360 --> 05:29:12,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: environmental, 3391 05:29:12,360 --> 05:29:13,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: alumni, 3392 05:29:13,360 --> 05:29:14,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: cultural, 3393 05:29:14,360 --> 05:29:15,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and 3394 05:29:15,360 --> 05:29:16,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: economic 3395 05:29:16,360 --> 05:29:17,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: organizations. 3396 05:29:17,360 --> 05:29:19,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I would like to ask questions 3397 05:29:19,000 --> 05:29:21,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: regarding anonymized and aggregated 3398 05:29:21,300 --> 05:29:23,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: statistical information, 3399 05:29:23,120 --> 05:29:26,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and not specifically individual STRs, 3400 05:29:26,600 --> 05:29:29,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: account numbers, and other protected 3401 05:29:29,120 --> 05:29:31,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: customer information, as a caveat, 3402 05:29:31,960 --> 05:29:34,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 3403 05:29:34,320 --> 05:29:36,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My first question would be: 3404 05:29:36,300 --> 05:29:39,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can the distinguished sponsor provide 3405 05:29:39,960 --> 05:29:43,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: through AMLC how many foundations, 3406 05:29:43,200 --> 05:29:47,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: religious organizations, education providers, 3407 05:29:47,280 --> 05:29:51,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: other service NPOs and other expressive NPOs 3408 05:29:51,840 --> 05:29:55,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that exist currently, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? 3409 05:30:24,400 --> 05:30:30,000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: First, the accreditation of NGOs falls within the mandate of DSWD, 3410 05:30:30,000 --> 05:30:31,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Not AMLC. 3411 05:30:33,220 --> 05:30:40,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, to clarify, SEC released a terrorist financing sector risk assessment. 3412 05:30:42,020 --> 05:30:48,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Apparently, it is created because of AMLC's financial analysis. 3413 05:30:49,860 --> 05:30:58,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So now we'd like to ask that the report or the assessment covers certain SEC-registered NPO's. 3414 05:30:58,940 --> 05:31:15,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We assume that the AMLC had the opportunity to know the scope, the number of NPO's they identified to be vulnerable to terrorist financing. 3415 05:31:15,040 --> 05:31:28,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Which is why we're asking, is the AMLC aware how many foundations, religious organizations, education providers, other service NPO's and other expressive NPO's that exist? 3416 05:31:28,940 --> 05:31:42,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: To us, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, this is requisite information that hopefully the AMLC had the opportunity to check, assess before they gave their findings to the SEC. 3417 05:31:43,740 --> 05:31:54,400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, currently we have no data. We will be submitting to the office because the studies are still undergoing. 3418 05:31:55,400 --> 05:31:58,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we look forward. 3419 05:31:58,940 --> 05:32:02,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We look forward to the submission of data from the AMLC for this year. 3420 05:32:02,500 --> 05:32:09,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But can we also add the records of AMLC from the previous years? 3421 05:32:10,340 --> 05:32:11,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 3422 05:32:11,340 --> 05:32:22,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We'd like to maybe up until 2021 or 2020, which is when the AMLC provided that data and then afterwards submitted this report. 3423 05:32:23,660 --> 05:32:25,480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We'll do that, Mr. Speaker. 3424 05:32:25,900 --> 05:32:26,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. 3425 05:32:27,660 --> 05:32:28,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 3426 05:32:28,940 --> 05:32:35,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, has there been any change in the definitions and classifications used? 3427 05:32:38,920 --> 05:32:40,580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Ma'am, Mr. Speaker. 3428 05:32:40,840 --> 05:32:42,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So there's been no change. 3429 05:32:43,000 --> 05:32:55,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The different definitions of the NPO's that I enumerated earlier, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, which the SEC defined and uses, 3430 05:32:55,220 --> 05:32:58,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is also the definition that the AMLC is operating. 3431 05:32:58,940 --> 05:33:01,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this correct, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? 3432 05:33:02,300 --> 05:33:03,940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker, it's correct. 3433 05:33:05,480 --> 05:33:20,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, does the AMLC, therefore, systematically assess the effects of its measures on legitimate humanitarian development, human rights, research, advocacy, and other civil society activity? 3434 05:33:22,420 --> 05:33:24,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There's been no change in the definition. 3435 05:33:24,360 --> 05:33:28,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We're waiting for the data on the amount, on the number of NPO's. 3436 05:33:28,940 --> 05:33:30,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That it has. 3437 05:33:30,040 --> 05:33:46,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But because the data came from AMLC, which the SEC used to create this report, this report has an effect on the operations of these NPO's or NPO's in general, 3438 05:33:47,020 --> 05:33:53,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: given that the SEC, with the data of AMLC, tags them as vulnerable, so to speak. 3439 05:33:53,700 --> 05:33:58,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So may I ask, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, has the AMLC, or 3440 05:33:58,940 --> 05:34:05,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does the AMLC systematically assess the effects of its measures in the activities of these NPO's? 3441 05:34:06,200 --> 05:34:07,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, yes, Mr. Speaker. 3442 05:34:07,320 --> 05:34:26,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: If so, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, can we know the indicators and findings that the AMLC has to check the effects of its measures on the legitimate humanitarian development, human rights, and other civil society activity? 3443 05:34:54,900 --> 05:34:57,700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Our AMLC, Counterterrorism Financing Laws, are primarily directed against terrorists, 3444 05:34:57,700 --> 05:35:00,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and those who finance terrorism. 3445 05:35:00,900 --> 05:35:08,920 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: NGOs that receive donations, deliver humanitarian assistance, maintain bank accounts, work with communities, 3446 05:35:09,480 --> 05:35:19,680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and safeguard the personnel and beneficiaries should not be unduly concerned that their legitimate activities will be affected or targeted under these laws. 3447 05:35:20,440 --> 05:35:25,540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Insofar as the AMLC is concerned, its actions are evidence-based. 3448 05:35:25,540 --> 05:35:27,540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The AMLC conducts... 3449 05:35:27,540 --> 05:35:42,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: thorough investigations and carefully evaluates the facts and evidence before initiating any terrorism financing case or pursuing any remedy available under the law. 3450 05:35:42,960 --> 05:35:43,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker. 3451 05:35:44,160 --> 05:35:53,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Therefore, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, I'd like to present a case study on the floor, which I assume the AMLC will be well familiar with. 3452 05:35:55,000 --> 05:35:57,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In the case of the Leyte Center for Development, 3453 05:35:57,520 --> 05:35:59,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: development, its assets 3454 05:35:59,520 --> 05:36:01,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and accounts including personal accounts 3455 05:36:01,420 --> 05:36:03,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and assets of its staff and Executive 3456 05:36:03,400 --> 05:36:05,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Director Hasmin Jerusalem 3457 05:36:05,120 --> 05:36:07,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as well as the accounts of LCD 3458 05:36:07,440 --> 05:36:09,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: suppliers were ordered 3459 05:36:09,480 --> 05:36:11,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: frozen by the AMLC in 2024. 3460 05:36:12,880 --> 05:36:13,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The Manila 3461 05:36:13,500 --> 05:36:15,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: RTC Branch 28 3462 05:36:15,380 --> 05:36:17,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: after AMLC filed 3463 05:36:17,520 --> 05:36:19,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the case, found no reason 3464 05:36:19,540 --> 05:36:21,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and substantive evidence for 3465 05:36:21,560 --> 05:36:23,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the freezing of the accounts and assets 3466 05:36:23,180 --> 05:36:25,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ordering their unfreezing on 3467 05:36:25,540 --> 05:36:26,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: February 20, 2026. 3468 05:36:27,880 --> 05:36:29,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: AMLC then filed a motion 3469 05:36:29,380 --> 05:36:31,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for reconsideration on March 6, 3470 05:36:31,380 --> 05:36:33,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2026 and the RTC 3471 05:36:33,440 --> 05:36:35,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: denied the motion for reconsideration 3472 05:36:35,400 --> 05:36:36,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in March 18, 3473 05:36:37,180 --> 05:36:39,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2026, affirming and reiterating 3474 05:36:39,740 --> 05:36:41,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its order to unfreeze 3475 05:36:41,380 --> 05:36:43,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the accounts and assets of LCD 3476 05:36:43,140 --> 05:36:45,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: including personal accounts of its staff 3477 05:36:45,420 --> 05:36:47,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and Executive Officer and suppliers. 3478 05:36:48,380 --> 05:36:49,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yet, Mr. Speaker, 3479 05:36:50,040 --> 05:36:51,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, to this day 3480 05:36:51,580 --> 05:36:53,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the banks including 3481 05:36:53,280 --> 05:36:55,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the AMLC have not complied. 3482 05:36:56,140 --> 05:36:57,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Mr. Speaker, 3483 05:36:57,220 --> 05:36:57,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, good sponsor, 3484 05:36:57,500 --> 05:36:59,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: can the AMLC 3485 05:36:59,120 --> 05:37:00,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: clarify 3486 05:37:00,340 --> 05:37:03,460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on its rules for freezing 3487 05:37:03,460 --> 05:37:05,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and unfreezing of accounts for 3488 05:37:05,380 --> 05:37:06,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: transparency and accountability? 3489 05:37:07,820 --> 05:37:09,240 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The AMLC 3490 05:37:09,240 --> 05:37:10,780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: cannot disclose 3491 05:37:10,780 --> 05:37:12,500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: sub judice 3492 05:37:12,500 --> 05:37:15,380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: whether or not it is conducting a 3493 05:37:15,380 --> 05:37:17,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: financial investigation involving a 3494 05:37:17,360 --> 05:37:19,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: particular CSO or NGO 3495 05:37:19,320 --> 05:37:21,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: as such information is 3496 05:37:21,420 --> 05:37:23,540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: confidential. With respect 3497 05:37:23,540 --> 05:37:25,340 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to cases pending before the courts, 3498 05:37:25,340 --> 05:37:27,340 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the AMLC refrains 3499 05:37:27,500 --> 05:37:29,020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: from commenting on matters 3500 05:37:29,020 --> 05:37:30,780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: relating to such cases 3501 05:37:30,780 --> 05:37:33,500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: in observance of the sub judice rule 3502 05:37:33,500 --> 05:37:35,260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: which prohibits 3503 05:37:35,260 --> 05:37:37,440 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: public discussion that may 3504 05:37:37,440 --> 05:37:39,240 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: tend to influence or otherwise 3505 05:37:39,240 --> 05:37:41,400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: interfere with the courts 3506 05:37:41,400 --> 05:37:43,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: resolution of pending case. 3507 05:37:44,060 --> 05:37:45,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Rest assured, however, 3508 05:37:45,500 --> 05:37:47,400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: that any investigation conducted 3509 05:37:47,400 --> 05:37:49,380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: or case pursued by the 3510 05:37:49,380 --> 05:37:51,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: AMLC is based on the 3511 05:37:51,360 --> 05:37:53,000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: available facts and evidence 3512 05:37:53,000 --> 05:37:55,580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and undertaken only after a thorough 3513 05:37:55,580 --> 05:37:57,240 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and objective investigation. 3514 05:37:57,500 --> 05:37:58,600 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Evaluation thereof. 3515 05:37:59,160 --> 05:37:59,660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker. 3516 05:38:00,140 --> 05:38:01,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, to clarify, 3517 05:38:02,520 --> 05:38:04,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: how is this a continuing case 3518 05:38:04,760 --> 05:38:07,460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that is under the sub judice rule? 3519 05:38:08,440 --> 05:38:08,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Currently, 3520 05:38:09,580 --> 05:38:11,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the RTC has denied 3521 05:38:11,260 --> 05:38:12,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with finality the motion for 3522 05:38:12,980 --> 05:38:15,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: reconsideration filed by the AMLC. 3523 05:38:16,320 --> 05:38:17,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, what is keeping 3524 05:38:17,240 --> 05:38:19,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the AMLC from complying to the 3525 05:38:19,060 --> 05:38:20,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: court's order to unfreeze the accounts of 3526 05:38:20,840 --> 05:38:21,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: LCDE? 3527 05:38:27,500 --> 05:38:30,060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Based on the evidence, 3528 05:38:30,320 --> 05:38:31,780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: there are still other agencies 3529 05:38:31,780 --> 05:38:32,860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: that are exploring it. 3530 05:38:33,540 --> 05:38:34,000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker. 3531 05:38:35,000 --> 05:38:37,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I'm sorry, can the sponsor repeat their answer 3532 05:38:37,620 --> 05:38:38,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as I had difficulty 3533 05:38:38,720 --> 05:38:40,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hearing it? 3534 05:38:44,700 --> 05:38:47,140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The AMLC is currently exploring 3535 05:38:47,140 --> 05:38:49,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: judicial evidence. 3536 05:38:49,900 --> 05:38:50,860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Judicial evidence. 3537 05:38:52,200 --> 05:38:52,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, 3538 05:38:53,840 --> 05:38:55,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for AMLC, 3539 05:38:55,720 --> 05:38:57,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the case is not closed. 3540 05:38:57,500 --> 05:38:58,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this correct? 3541 05:38:58,520 --> 05:39:00,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? 3542 05:39:00,660 --> 05:39:01,500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It is on appeal. 3543 05:39:02,200 --> 05:39:03,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It is on appeal. 3544 05:39:04,580 --> 05:39:06,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, is that what's keeping the AMLC 3545 05:39:06,920 --> 05:39:08,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from complying to the court's order 3546 05:39:08,640 --> 05:39:10,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to unfreeze the accounts of 3547 05:39:10,740 --> 05:39:11,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: LCDE? 3548 05:39:16,820 --> 05:39:18,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: When was the appeal 3549 05:39:18,940 --> 05:39:20,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: filed, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? 3550 05:40:16,700 --> 05:40:17,500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: AMLC. 3551 05:40:17,500 --> 05:40:24,680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Avail is right to avail of judicial remedies. 3552 05:40:24,680 --> 05:40:26,660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The others can also do as well. 3553 05:40:27,500 --> 05:40:34,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But to clarify, so this is the reason why AMLC has not complied yet with the court's order to unfreeze. 3554 05:40:35,080 --> 05:40:42,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Because, yes, we understand that there are judicial remedies that can be available to agencies. 3555 05:40:43,220 --> 05:40:45,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But this is a court order, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 3556 05:40:49,700 --> 05:40:54,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And as we speak, NPO activities are being hampered. 3557 05:40:54,580 --> 05:41:05,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The personal lives of officers whose accounts are being frozen are impeded because of AMLC's continuous noncompliance with the court's order. 3558 05:41:06,200 --> 05:41:10,520 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, as to when the appeal was filed, we're still checking the data. 3559 05:41:12,000 --> 05:41:17,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, so we cannot on the floor share when the appeal was filed. 3560 05:41:17,860 --> 05:41:24,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I think this would be instrumental to understanding why AMLC has not yet complied. 3561 05:41:24,580 --> 05:41:25,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: With the court's order. 3562 05:41:26,760 --> 05:41:30,760 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: I just want to remind of the subjudice, Mr. Speaker. 3563 05:41:32,020 --> 05:41:42,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, and we'd like to perhaps ask more information why it's still applicable given that there's an existing court order. 3564 05:41:42,440 --> 05:41:54,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And there has yet details shared as to why the subjudice applies when the motion for reconsideration has already been denied. 3565 05:41:54,580 --> 05:41:57,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 3566 05:42:10,600 --> 05:42:18,800 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, Mr. Speaker, we cannot discuss further the minutes of the case because it's still ongoing. 3567 05:42:18,800 --> 05:42:22,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 3568 05:42:22,840 --> 05:42:23,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Just to maybe... 3569 05:42:24,580 --> 05:42:26,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ask the final clarification. 3570 05:42:27,080 --> 05:42:28,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is the appeal filed? 3571 05:42:31,480 --> 05:42:32,840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, yes, Mr. Speaker. 3572 05:42:33,320 --> 05:42:40,460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we'd like to receive from AMLC information as to the status of this case, 3573 05:42:41,000 --> 05:42:44,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which would be the reason why it would be under subjudice still. 3574 05:42:45,240 --> 05:42:47,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The date and other pertinent information as to this case. 3575 05:42:47,940 --> 05:42:49,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Would that be possible, Mr. Speaker? 3576 05:42:49,100 --> 05:42:52,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker, we will be willing to submit our report. 3577 05:42:53,020 --> 05:42:54,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 3578 05:42:54,580 --> 05:42:55,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But we'd like... 3579 05:42:55,300 --> 05:43:06,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We ask these questions because this case is illustrative of the effect this sector risk assessment issued by SEC 3580 05:43:06,260 --> 05:43:14,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: using the information from AMLC to organizations that are a part of NPOs. 3581 05:43:15,320 --> 05:43:21,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, non-profit organizations that are expressive, religious, education providers, service-oriented. 3582 05:43:21,420 --> 05:43:24,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That at the end of the day, there's this case. 3583 05:43:24,580 --> 05:43:35,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Who went through court processes, their case was dismissed on reconsideration, it's been denied. 3584 05:43:35,700 --> 05:43:39,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, right now, this organization still cannot function. 3585 05:43:40,160 --> 05:43:50,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The lives of the officers and their ability to function as human beings in a time where our assets are nearly all liquid 3586 05:43:50,060 --> 05:43:54,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and therefore we have to depend on banks, on financials. 3587 05:43:54,580 --> 05:44:02,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Financial institutions to maintain our daily duties, it's all being hampered. 3588 05:44:02,420 --> 05:44:14,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And when AMLC shared earlier that it has its business not interfering with the functions 3589 05:44:14,800 --> 05:44:21,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or even measuring the effects of their policies to organizations, that strikes me as disappointing 3590 05:44:21,440 --> 05:44:24,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because lives are being... 3591 05:44:24,500 --> 05:44:28,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: lives are being disrupted by AMLC's findings and policies. 3592 05:44:28,000 --> 05:44:39,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, I'd like to ask the AMLC, does it know the consequences for legitimate NPO activity 3593 05:44:39,060 --> 05:44:43,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and how does AMLC measure them, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? 3594 05:44:46,820 --> 05:44:54,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And how does AMLC assess whether its NPO measures are risk-based and proportionate? 3595 05:45:30,000 --> 05:45:44,560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, covered persons may file suspicious transaction reports involving corporations or organizations suspected of being involved in terrorism or that has been designated as such. 3596 05:45:44,560 --> 05:45:55,020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The AMLC may therefore thereafter act on these reports, and when investigation warrants, pursue the appropriate remedies available under applicable laws, 3597 05:45:55,460 --> 05:45:59,260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: including the issuance or implementation of freeze orders, 3598 05:45:59,260 --> 05:46:02,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and the institution of civil forfeiture proceedings. 3599 05:46:03,700 --> 05:46:06,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you for the clarification, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 3600 05:46:07,200 --> 05:46:14,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: However, this is information that may be gathered by a cursory glance at the AMLA. 3601 05:46:14,120 --> 05:46:27,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But we're asking about the practical and memoranda policy orders wherein AMLC is able to set standards for itself 3602 05:46:27,800 --> 05:46:29,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to change. 3603 05:46:29,260 --> 05:46:36,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: To check whether the measures that it implements against NPO's are risk-based and proportionate. 3604 05:46:36,620 --> 05:46:41,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, how does AMLC assess this? 3605 05:46:41,160 --> 05:46:44,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: What was shared to us was the process. 3606 05:46:44,160 --> 05:46:58,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But what does AMLC do to ensure that their actions are risk-based and proportionate and not just merely blanketly responsive to complaints or reports? 3607 05:46:59,260 --> 05:47:01,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from covered persons? 3608 05:47:55,500 --> 05:48:01,400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We conduct risk assessments to determine possible risk exposure of NGOs 3609 05:48:01,400 --> 05:48:05,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: based on facts; then AMLC will make policies. 3610 05:48:06,540 --> 05:48:20,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can this representation request, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, a copy of the standards that the AMLC uses to say that their measures are risk-based and proportionate? 3611 05:48:20,760 --> 05:48:29,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Whether this is a memorandum order, a framework, a policy plan, or whatever document the AMLC uses, 3612 05:48:29,280 --> 05:48:37,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to ensure that it does entail proportionate measures, this representation would like to receive a copy. 3613 05:48:37,320 --> 05:48:39,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this possible, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? 3614 05:48:39,380 --> 05:48:40,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We'll do that, Mr. Speaker. 3615 05:48:41,420 --> 05:48:43,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 3616 05:48:43,180 --> 05:48:58,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question would be, can we know how many total NPO-linked suspicious transaction reports or SDRs since 2021 up to the latest available year have been filed? 3617 05:48:59,260 --> 05:49:05,040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: As of the moment, Mr. Speaker, we don't have the data. We will just submit to the office. 3618 05:49:05,640 --> 05:49:10,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay, we will look forward to that from 2021 up to the latest available year. 3619 05:49:10,540 --> 05:49:14,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Do we have data on how much money is involved here? 3620 05:49:17,780 --> 05:49:20,780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: None at the moment. 3621 05:49:21,200 --> 05:49:23,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, we'd like to receive that also via a report. 3622 05:49:23,740 --> 05:49:29,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How about for money laundering and terrorist financing SDRs? 3623 05:49:29,260 --> 05:49:36,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Do we know how many, what is the total number issued since 2021 and how much is involved? 3624 05:49:37,300 --> 05:49:39,120 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We will also include that, Mr. Speaker. 3625 05:49:39,540 --> 05:49:41,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay, so we'll look forward to that. 3626 05:49:42,160 --> 05:49:47,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Generally, SDRs and then SDRs in relation to money laundering and terrorist financing charges. 3627 05:49:48,580 --> 05:49:49,600 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: That's Mr. Speaker. 3628 05:49:50,940 --> 05:49:57,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Of course, we look forward to this data so we ensure that our laws are properly implemented. 3629 05:49:57,840 --> 05:49:59,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But we'd like to ask also, Mr. Speaker. 3630 05:49:59,260 --> 05:50:03,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, will this data be publicly available and when? 3631 05:50:23,740 --> 05:50:27,540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We do submit annual accomplishment reports. 3632 05:50:27,540 --> 05:50:28,660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay. 3633 05:50:29,260 --> 05:50:30,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We look forward to that as well. 3634 05:50:30,640 --> 05:50:43,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But given the, well, public attention to how AMLC is able to check the suspicious transactions 3635 05:50:43,820 --> 05:50:49,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that it receives via reports or even covered transactions it receives when covered persons 3636 05:50:49,800 --> 05:50:58,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: give their due diligence, we'd like to open to AMLC if this information can be public. 3637 05:50:58,100 --> 05:50:59,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So we'd like to receive. 3638 05:50:59,260 --> 05:51:04,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I don't know if this is an official accomplishment report, but is, does AMLC plan to publish this information? 3639 05:51:04,540 --> 05:51:06,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Does it plan to make it public? 3640 05:51:06,540 --> 05:51:08,540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 3641 05:51:08,540 --> 05:51:10,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May I ask when? 3642 05:51:10,540 --> 05:51:12,540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It's being published. 3643 05:51:12,540 --> 05:51:14,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And may I ask also, how often does AMLC publish the results? 3644 05:51:14,540 --> 05:51:16,540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Annually. 3645 05:51:16,540 --> 05:51:18,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Annually. 3646 05:51:18,540 --> 05:51:20,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So mga anong date po kaya ito? 3647 05:51:20,540 --> 05:51:28,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And can we have the assurance that AMLC will publish their findings as soon as possible? 3648 05:51:37,260 --> 05:51:39,260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: They usually publish 3649 05:51:39,260 --> 05:51:41,260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: annually 3650 05:51:41,260 --> 05:51:44,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: before the budget hearing, Mr. Speaker. 3651 05:51:44,300 --> 05:51:46,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. 3652 05:51:46,940 --> 05:51:52,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So can we have the assurance, so well AMLC mentioned that it has an accomplishment report prior to this budget hearing. 3653 05:51:56,940 --> 05:51:58,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: However, I have 3654 05:51:59,260 --> 05:52:01,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: been hearing that there's a lot of data 3655 05:52:01,340 --> 05:52:03,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that this representation is requesting 3656 05:52:03,260 --> 05:52:05,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on the floor that AMLC is 3657 05:52:05,280 --> 05:52:07,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: unable to provide at this particular 3658 05:52:07,500 --> 05:52:09,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: instance. So 3659 05:52:09,120 --> 05:52:11,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation 3660 05:52:12,120 --> 05:52:13,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would like to just note on record 3661 05:52:13,660 --> 05:52:14,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that 3662 05:52:14,820 --> 05:52:17,460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: though we would like 3663 05:52:17,460 --> 05:52:19,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to see 3664 05:52:19,300 --> 05:52:20,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the 3665 05:52:20,360 --> 05:52:22,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: data of AMLC 3666 05:52:22,600 --> 05:52:25,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that as of now 3667 05:52:25,280 --> 05:52:27,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it seems like there is more that has 3668 05:52:27,300 --> 05:52:29,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to be provided and made 3669 05:52:29,200 --> 05:52:31,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: public for further clarification. 3670 05:52:31,240 --> 05:52:33,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So can we have the assurance that AMLC 3671 05:52:33,320 --> 05:52:35,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: will publish their findings as soon 3672 05:52:35,320 --> 05:52:35,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as available? 3673 05:52:38,220 --> 05:52:39,480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 3674 05:52:40,520 --> 05:52:41,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, 3675 05:52:41,640 --> 05:52:42,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor. 3676 05:52:42,960 --> 05:52:45,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question would be, we did 3677 05:52:45,240 --> 05:52:47,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: check the data 3678 05:52:47,360 --> 05:52:49,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that AMLC has published 3679 05:52:49,120 --> 05:52:51,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: prior to the budget season 3680 05:52:51,040 --> 05:52:53,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and in the executive summary it says 3681 05:52:53,380 --> 05:52:55,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that a total of 18 3682 05:52:55,220 --> 05:52:57,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NPOs were identified 3683 05:52:57,300 --> 05:52:58,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in 112 3684 05:52:58,420 --> 05:52:59,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 10 3685 05:52:59,180 --> 05:53:01,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terrorism and terrorist financing 3686 05:53:01,120 --> 05:53:03,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: related STRs filed with the 3687 05:53:03,280 --> 05:53:05,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: AMLC. However, in a 3688 05:53:05,220 --> 05:53:07,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: statement on page 36 it says 3689 05:53:07,360 --> 05:53:09,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for 2017 to 3690 05:53:09,320 --> 05:53:11,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2020, 112 3691 05:53:11,020 --> 05:53:13,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NPOs were identified 3692 05:53:13,320 --> 05:53:14,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the STRs relating to 3693 05:53:14,940 --> 05:53:16,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terrorism and terrorist financing. 3694 05:53:17,180 --> 05:53:18,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So there's a discrepancy on the numbers. 3695 05:53:19,500 --> 05:53:20,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa isa, sabi 3696 05:53:20,740 --> 05:53:23,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 18 NPOs were identified 3697 05:53:23,040 --> 05:53:25,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in 112 charges 3698 05:53:25,580 --> 05:53:26,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or STRs. 3699 05:53:26,840 --> 05:53:28,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And in another it says 3700 05:53:29,180 --> 05:53:31,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 12 NPOs were identified. 3701 05:53:31,100 --> 05:53:32,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can we clarify, 3702 05:53:32,940 --> 05:53:35,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, which 3703 05:53:35,060 --> 05:53:37,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of this is the proper 3704 05:53:37,080 --> 05:53:37,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: data point? 3705 05:53:38,660 --> 05:53:40,480 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We will check on that and validate. 3706 05:53:41,440 --> 05:53:43,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. Mr. Speaker, good 3707 05:53:43,140 --> 05:53:43,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor, 3708 05:53:44,260 --> 05:53:46,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we see that 3709 05:53:46,620 --> 05:53:48,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with this and we're 3710 05:53:48,640 --> 05:53:51,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: looking for and hoping for the information 3711 05:53:51,160 --> 05:53:52,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to clarify 3712 05:53:52,680 --> 05:53:54,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but it seems like that 3713 05:53:54,760 --> 05:53:57,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: AMLC is prioritizing 3714 05:53:57,400 --> 05:53:59,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and targeting the small 3715 05:53:59,020 --> 05:54:00,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: smaller people's organizations 3716 05:54:00,960 --> 05:54:03,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that are victims of red tagging 3717 05:54:03,080 --> 05:54:04,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that at the end of the day 3718 05:54:04,620 --> 05:54:06,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: their charges are dismissed 3719 05:54:06,920 --> 05:54:08,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in courts and 3720 05:54:08,900 --> 05:54:10,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa halip na habulin nito 3721 05:54:10,920 --> 05:54:13,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang katotohan 3722 05:54:13,260 --> 05:54:15,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at malalaking money launderers 3723 05:54:15,400 --> 05:54:16,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na naglipana. 3724 05:54:16,780 --> 05:54:18,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we're 3725 05:54:18,980 --> 05:54:20,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: requesting the 3726 05:54:20,680 --> 05:54:22,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: information that was 3727 05:54:22,900 --> 05:54:24,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: promised above but we'd 3728 05:54:24,940 --> 05:54:26,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: also like to add 3729 05:54:26,360 --> 05:54:29,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and this representation 3730 05:54:29,020 --> 05:54:30,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd also just furnish a copy 3731 05:54:30,540 --> 05:54:32,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd like also to be 3732 05:54:32,860 --> 05:54:34,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: furnished on the 3733 05:54:34,600 --> 05:54:36,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: updated annual figures for the 3734 05:54:36,960 --> 05:54:38,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: latest available year using 3735 05:54:38,880 --> 05:54:41,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the same definitions and level of aggregation 3736 05:54:41,240 --> 05:54:42,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of NPOs 3737 05:54:42,740 --> 05:54:44,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and update on the primary 3738 05:54:44,780 --> 05:54:46,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sources of funds of 3739 05:54:46,760 --> 05:54:48,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NPOs generally 3740 05:54:48,540 --> 05:54:51,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the updated annual figures 3741 05:54:51,080 --> 05:54:52,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on the territorial area 3742 05:54:52,500 --> 05:54:54,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and operation or activities 3743 05:54:54,960 --> 05:54:57,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of NPOs for the latest available 3744 05:54:57,000 --> 05:54:58,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: year and the updated 3745 05:54:58,780 --> 05:55:00,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: annual figures on the amount of 3746 05:55:00,800 --> 05:55:02,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: funds annually used for 3747 05:55:02,640 --> 05:55:04,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2019 to the latest 3748 05:55:04,520 --> 05:55:06,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: available year and the total 3749 05:55:06,820 --> 05:55:08,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: amount of donations, contributions 3750 05:55:08,600 --> 05:55:09,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and grants for 2019 3751 05:55:09,980 --> 05:55:12,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to the latest available year 3752 05:55:12,160 --> 05:55:14,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: using the same definitions and level 3753 05:55:14,620 --> 05:55:16,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of aggregation. We ask these 3754 05:55:16,780 --> 05:55:18,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor 3755 05:55:18,120 --> 05:55:20,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because this representation 3756 05:55:20,880 --> 05:55:22,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from consulting 3757 05:55:22,260 --> 05:55:24,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with people's organizations 3758 05:55:24,160 --> 05:55:26,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that are falling under 3759 05:55:26,560 --> 05:55:28,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the definition of these NPOs 3760 05:55:28,780 --> 05:55:30,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: they are not 3761 05:55:30,000 --> 05:55:32,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: rich, they are not well 3762 05:55:32,140 --> 05:55:33,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: funded, nonetheless 3763 05:55:33,860 --> 05:55:35,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the good work they do 3764 05:55:35,920 --> 05:55:38,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: they are hampered by these 3765 05:55:38,240 --> 05:55:40,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: allegations, these SDRs 3766 05:55:40,140 --> 05:55:42,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by AMLC. So 3767 05:55:42,060 --> 05:55:44,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd like the following data, Mr. Speaker 3768 05:55:44,480 --> 05:55:46,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, can 3769 05:55:46,440 --> 05:55:48,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: these be provided to this representation 3770 05:55:48,520 --> 05:55:50,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by the 3771 05:55:50,520 --> 05:55:51,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: end of the week? 3772 05:55:57,900 --> 05:55:58,580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, 3773 05:55:58,780 --> 05:56:00,680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, by the end of the week. 3774 05:56:00,680 --> 05:56:01,840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: For the end of the week, probably. 3775 05:56:02,180 --> 05:56:04,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, I have no other further 3776 05:56:04,380 --> 05:56:06,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: questions, but we'd like to 3777 05:56:06,440 --> 05:56:08,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be updated as soon as possible 3778 05:56:08,640 --> 05:56:10,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with relation to our requests 3779 05:56:10,380 --> 05:56:12,460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to ensure that AMLC does indeed 3780 05:56:12,460 --> 05:56:13,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: target the biggest 3781 05:56:13,860 --> 05:56:16,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: money launderers in our country 3782 05:56:16,640 --> 05:56:18,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and not small-time 3783 05:56:18,540 --> 05:56:19,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: people's organizations 3784 05:56:19,540 --> 05:56:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: who for their advocacies 3785 05:56:22,700 --> 05:56:24,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are able to help the lives 3786 05:56:24,540 --> 05:56:26,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of many Filipinos. That's all, Mr. Speaker, 3787 05:56:26,580 --> 05:56:28,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, thank you for answering our questions. 3788 05:56:28,780 --> 05:56:30,520 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you, thank you very much 3789 05:56:30,520 --> 05:56:32,500 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and the recommitment made by the 3790 05:56:32,500 --> 05:56:34,800 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Vice Chair and hope it will be delivered to the 3791 05:56:34,800 --> 05:56:36,760 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: requesting member. 3792 05:56:37,380 --> 05:56:37,980 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. 3793 05:56:40,640 --> 05:56:41,880 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, 3794 05:56:43,040 --> 05:56:44,740 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: next to interpolate 3795 05:56:44,740 --> 05:56:46,620 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: the proposed budget of Anti-Money 3796 05:56:46,620 --> 05:56:47,800 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Laundering Council 3797 05:56:47,800 --> 05:56:49,240 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: is 3798 05:56:49,240 --> 05:56:52,080 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Representative 3799 05:56:52,080 --> 05:56:54,460 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Sarah Jane 3800 05:56:54,460 --> 05:56:56,480 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Ilago from Gabriela 3801 05:56:56,480 --> 05:56:57,400 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Partylist. 3802 05:56:57,400 --> 05:56:58,340 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Gentle lady from 3803 05:56:58,780 --> 05:57:00,960 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Gabriela Partylist, Honorable Ilago, is recognized. 3804 05:57:02,260 --> 05:57:03,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 3805 05:57:04,280 --> 05:57:06,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: First, under Section 9, 3806 05:57:06,740 --> 05:57:07,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Letter C of 3807 05:57:07,960 --> 05:57:10,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Republic Act No. 11930 3808 05:57:10,580 --> 05:57:12,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: or the Anti-Online Sexual Abuse 3809 05:57:12,860 --> 05:57:14,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and Exploitation of Children and 3810 05:57:14,580 --> 05:57:16,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Anti-Child Sexual Abuse 3811 05:57:16,840 --> 05:57:18,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and Exploitation Materials Act, 3812 05:57:18,740 --> 05:57:20,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: payment service providers or 3813 05:57:20,500 --> 05:57:23,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: PSPs that have direct knowledge 3814 05:57:23,020 --> 05:57:24,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of financial activities related 3815 05:57:24,800 --> 05:57:26,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to OSAIC and CISAIM 3816 05:57:26,660 --> 05:57:28,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: have a duty to report 3817 05:57:28,020 --> 05:57:29,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: these to the DOJ 3818 05:57:29,940 --> 05:57:31,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: within 24 hours 3819 05:57:31,720 --> 05:57:33,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and to the AMLC 3820 05:57:33,800 --> 05:57:35,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: within 5 days. May we get 3821 05:57:35,880 --> 05:57:38,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: an update and status of the reports 3822 05:57:38,080 --> 05:57:39,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: received by the 3823 05:57:39,380 --> 05:57:41,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: AMLC regarding financial 3824 05:57:41,880 --> 05:57:43,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: activities related to OSAIC 3825 05:57:43,780 --> 05:57:44,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and CISAIM? 3826 05:57:58,020 --> 05:58:08,700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, 3827 05:58:09,060 --> 05:58:10,920 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: we were not able to receive 3828 05:58:10,920 --> 05:58:14,940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: reports under the OSAIC law 3829 05:58:14,940 --> 05:58:18,680 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: only from 3830 05:58:18,680 --> 05:58:21,160 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: SDRs, 3831 05:58:21,300 --> 05:58:22,380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: suspicious transactions. 3832 05:58:22,380 --> 05:58:25,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So, for the record, 3833 05:58:25,980 --> 05:58:26,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, 3834 05:58:26,780 --> 05:58:27,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: there is no one. 3835 05:58:28,020 --> 05:58:30,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: None so far 3836 05:58:30,180 --> 05:58:32,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: related to the violation 3837 05:58:32,540 --> 05:58:35,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of the Anti-OSAIC and Anti-CISAIM 3838 05:58:35,240 --> 05:58:35,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: law. 3839 05:58:36,320 --> 05:58:36,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Then, 3840 05:58:37,340 --> 05:58:40,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: so, in the past year 3841 05:58:40,500 --> 05:58:42,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: since this law was passed, 3842 05:58:42,360 --> 05:58:43,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: have there been any accounts 3843 05:58:43,900 --> 05:58:46,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: linked to OSAIC and CISAIM that have been 3844 05:58:46,340 --> 05:58:48,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: closed or frozen by the AMLC? 3845 05:58:49,060 --> 05:58:52,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Since the anti-OSAIC and CISAIM 3846 05:58:52,640 --> 05:58:54,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: law was passed in 2022, 3847 05:58:54,860 --> 05:58:56,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: have there been any 3848 05:58:56,040 --> 05:58:57,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: closings? 3849 05:58:58,020 --> 05:59:00,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: And do those accounts 3850 05:59:00,440 --> 05:59:01,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ipasara na account na may kinalaman sa OSAEC at CSAEM? 3851 05:59:40,000 --> 05:59:45,360 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We have accounted for four of the civil forfeiture petitions filed in 2025 3852 05:59:45,360 --> 05:59:52,040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and three of the 28 petitions filed in the first semester of 2026. 3853 05:59:52,040 --> 05:59:59,980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: A separate breakdown of OSAEC and CSAEM cases is maintained by the operating unit. 3854 06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:03,060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and can be furnished to the Committee on Request. 3855 06:00:04,380 --> 06:00:08,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Speaker, this representation would like to request for a copy 3856 06:00:08,240 --> 06:00:13,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of the status of the implementation of this law so far 3857 06:00:13,100 --> 06:00:19,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: as well as details including dates of flagged and investigated transaction. 3858 06:00:20,100 --> 06:00:24,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: We asked and are concerned of these matter 3859 06:00:24,360 --> 06:00:28,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: because we want to ensure that the AMLC responds swiftly to cases 3860 06:00:28,740 --> 06:00:34,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: involving OSAIC and CISAEM, particularly those involving financial transactions. 3861 06:00:34,240 --> 06:00:41,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: We believe that immediate action is necessary to ensure that suspicious financial activities 3862 06:00:41,540 --> 06:00:48,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: linked to these grave offenses against children are promptly addressed and investigated 3863 06:00:48,180 --> 06:00:55,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: as the Congress are now working to revise and strengthen this law. 3864 06:00:55,440 --> 06:00:58,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating listening response. 3865 06:00:58,740 --> 06:01:04,500 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you very much and same, there were commitments made 3866 06:01:04,500 --> 06:01:09,240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and I hope that the Vice Chair will be able to supply the needed 3867 06:01:09,240 --> 06:01:14,720 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and commitments to the good member. 3868 06:01:15,560 --> 06:01:16,160 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. 3869 06:01:17,420 --> 06:01:22,940 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, next to interpolate the proposed budget of the Anti-Money Laundering Council, 3870 06:01:22,940 --> 06:01:27,780 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: I move to recognize Representative Presley Desos 3871 06:01:29,100 --> 06:01:31,920 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: the gentleman from Phil Reca, 3872 06:01:31,920 --> 06:01:34,020 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Honorable Presley Desos, you have the floor. 3873 06:01:35,460 --> 06:01:37,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you Mr. Speaker Madam Sponsor. 3874 06:01:39,760 --> 06:01:41,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 3875 06:01:41,680 --> 06:01:44,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: let me begin with the budget itself. 3876 06:01:44,480 --> 06:01:50,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: AMLC has a current fiscal year 2026 budget of P333 million 3877 06:01:51,080 --> 06:01:56,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: but for 2027, the proposed amount is only about P144 million. 3878 06:01:57,180 --> 06:01:58,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, we are reducing AMLC 3879 06:01:58,740 --> 06:02:00,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: budget by more than half. 3880 06:02:00,920 --> 06:02:02,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Why is the budget going down so 3881 06:02:02,640 --> 06:02:03,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: substantially, 3882 06:02:04,760 --> 06:02:06,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor? 3883 06:02:08,640 --> 06:02:09,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Bakit masyadong mababa 3884 06:02:09,940 --> 06:02:11,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ang inyong budget, 3885 06:02:12,620 --> 06:02:14,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: more than half, from P333 3886 06:02:14,820 --> 06:02:16,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: million, naging 3887 06:02:16,060 --> 06:02:17,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: P144 million? 3888 06:02:19,900 --> 06:02:21,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What's the reason behind? 3889 06:02:21,880 --> 06:02:24,560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, may I respectfully clarify the premise. 3890 06:02:25,120 --> 06:02:26,660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The P144 million is not 3891 06:02:26,660 --> 06:02:28,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the AMLC's proposal. 3892 06:02:28,740 --> 06:02:30,720 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It is the amount recommended by 3893 06:02:30,720 --> 06:02:32,660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the Department of Budget and Management 3894 06:02:32,660 --> 06:02:33,920 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: in the NEP. 3895 06:02:34,660 --> 06:02:36,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The AMLC proposed 3896 06:02:36,300 --> 06:02:37,260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 335 3897 06:02:37,260 --> 06:02:40,400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: million 246. 3898 06:02:41,220 --> 06:02:42,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, for 3899 06:02:42,320 --> 06:02:44,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2027, you requested 3900 06:02:44,060 --> 06:02:44,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: P300? 3901 06:02:47,560 --> 06:02:48,400 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: P333. 3902 06:02:48,660 --> 06:02:48,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: P33. 3903 06:02:49,840 --> 06:02:52,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For 2027, it's P335. 3904 06:02:52,600 --> 06:02:53,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I thought that was 3905 06:02:53,020 --> 06:02:56,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: P333 million, that was 3906 06:02:56,260 --> 06:02:57,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for 2026. 3907 06:02:57,660 --> 06:02:59,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Am I right? 3908 06:03:03,820 --> 06:03:05,660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, P333 for 2026 3909 06:03:06,180 --> 06:03:07,780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and P335 for 3910 06:03:07,780 --> 06:03:09,020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 2027. 3911 06:03:09,460 --> 06:03:11,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Only a 0.64% more. 3912 06:03:12,600 --> 06:03:13,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, for 2027, 3913 06:03:13,980 --> 06:03:15,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: how much your budget 3914 06:03:15,660 --> 06:03:16,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: requested? 3915 06:03:17,040 --> 06:03:19,340 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We requested for P335 to P460. 3916 06:03:19,540 --> 06:03:20,960 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We were given only... 3917 06:03:20,960 --> 06:03:22,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: No, for 2027 alone. 3918 06:03:23,240 --> 06:03:24,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For next year's budget. 3919 06:03:24,320 --> 06:03:25,780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: That has been 3920 06:03:25,780 --> 06:03:27,620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: more or less approved? 3921 06:03:27,660 --> 06:03:29,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For 2027? 3922 06:03:39,660 --> 06:03:41,000 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We proposed P335. 3923 06:03:41,380 --> 06:03:43,660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: But the one... 3924 06:03:44,340 --> 06:03:45,600 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The figure 3925 06:03:45,600 --> 06:03:47,260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: is approved is only P144. 3926 06:03:49,120 --> 06:03:50,140 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: P144 million. 3927 06:03:50,280 --> 06:03:51,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For 2027? 3928 06:03:51,500 --> 06:03:53,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yeah, how come there was a 3929 06:03:53,620 --> 06:03:55,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: big discrepancy between 3930 06:03:55,420 --> 06:03:57,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 2026 of P333? 3931 06:03:57,660 --> 06:04:00,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: P333 million and for 2027, 3932 06:04:00,420 --> 06:04:04,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it went down to P144 million. 3933 06:04:04,500 --> 06:04:06,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Anong bakit to bumaba? 3934 06:04:06,500 --> 06:04:07,860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Okay, the thing is, 3935 06:04:07,860 --> 06:04:10,260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: um, the figures... 3936 06:04:13,260 --> 06:04:14,620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The NEP figures correspond to 3937 06:04:14,620 --> 06:04:16,620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the AMLC's forward estimate, 3938 06:04:16,980 --> 06:04:18,180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: which was computed around 3939 06:04:18,180 --> 06:04:20,220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: three years ago, and none of 3940 06:04:20,220 --> 06:04:23,220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the agency's peer-to-proposals 3941 06:04:23,220 --> 06:04:24,740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: amounting to P190 million 3942 06:04:24,740 --> 06:04:25,740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: was considered. 3943 06:04:26,380 --> 06:04:27,540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The NEP provides no capital outlay at all. 3944 06:04:29,060 --> 06:04:30,180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: And the AMLC, therefore, 3945 06:04:30,180 --> 06:04:31,820 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: respectfully seeks the restoration 3946 06:04:31,820 --> 06:04:35,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: of the 190 million, 559. 3947 06:04:35,420 --> 06:04:36,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay, thank you. 3948 06:04:37,740 --> 06:04:39,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Let me proceed to my next question. 3949 06:04:40,980 --> 06:04:42,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Can we then identify those 3950 06:04:42,780 --> 06:04:45,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: one-time expenditures? 3951 06:04:45,020 --> 06:04:47,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because AMLA responsibilities 3952 06:04:47,100 --> 06:04:49,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: are not going... 3953 06:04:49,100 --> 06:04:50,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Are not getting smaller. 3954 06:04:50,780 --> 06:04:52,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: AMLA owns latest 3955 06:04:52,580 --> 06:04:54,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: national risk assessment, 3956 06:04:54,300 --> 06:04:56,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: identifies continuing risks involving the AMLA, 3957 06:04:56,300 --> 06:04:59,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: involving fraud, drugs, corruption, 3958 06:04:59,820 --> 06:05:03,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: tax crime, virtual assets, casinos, 3959 06:05:03,220 --> 06:05:05,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: real estate, and other sectors. 3960 06:05:05,300 --> 06:05:08,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: It specifically calls for stronger 3961 06:05:08,500 --> 06:05:11,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: financial investigation, asset tracing, 3962 06:05:11,100 --> 06:05:14,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: data integration, and analytics. 3963 06:05:14,140 --> 06:05:17,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So the budget needs to reflect that. 3964 06:05:17,100 --> 06:05:19,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Would you agree, distinguished sponsor? 3965 06:05:22,020 --> 06:05:23,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes. 3966 06:05:23,300 --> 06:05:25,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay, thank you. 3967 06:05:25,260 --> 06:05:26,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, let's go... Actually... 3968 06:05:26,140 --> 06:05:27,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to my next question. 3969 06:05:27,060 --> 06:05:28,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Let me move to something 3970 06:05:28,380 --> 06:05:31,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that the public can understand more easily. 3971 06:05:31,500 --> 06:05:35,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Criminal assets, AMLA has been active... 3972 06:05:35,260 --> 06:05:38,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: active in tracing and freezing assets 3973 06:05:38,220 --> 06:05:41,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in case involving alleged corruption 3974 06:05:41,340 --> 06:05:42,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in government projects. 3975 06:05:42,620 --> 06:05:44,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In January 2026, 3976 06:05:44,820 --> 06:05:48,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: AMLA reported that assets frozen 3977 06:05:48,020 --> 06:05:50,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in connection with alleged anomalous project 3978 06:05:50,900 --> 06:05:54,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: had reached approximately 24.7 billion. 3979 06:05:54,860 --> 06:05:56,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But freezing an asset, 3980 06:05:56,060 --> 06:05:59,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is not the same as recovering the asset. 3981 06:05:59,540 --> 06:06:00,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Am I right? 3982 06:06:00,580 --> 06:06:02,780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker, correct. 3983 06:06:02,780 --> 06:06:05,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Of the assets frozen 3984 06:06:05,020 --> 06:06:06,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in corruption-related cases, 3985 06:06:06,700 --> 06:06:08,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: how much has actually reached final 3986 06:06:08,980 --> 06:06:12,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: forfeiture in favor of the government? 3987 06:06:12,900 --> 06:06:16,380 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker, most of the corruption-related assets 3988 06:06:16,380 --> 06:06:19,700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: are still at the freezing or preservation stage 3989 06:06:19,700 --> 06:06:22,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: because the cases were filed only recently. 3990 06:06:22,460 --> 06:06:25,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In 2025, 15 of the 30 freeze orders, 3991 06:06:25,900 --> 06:06:27,620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: issued by the Court of Appeals, 3992 06:06:27,620 --> 06:06:28,980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: involve corruption, 3993 06:06:28,980 --> 06:06:31,700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: including 14 of the flood control anomalies, 3994 06:06:31,700 --> 06:06:36,540 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: covering 20.26 billion. 3995 06:06:36,540 --> 06:06:39,180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In the first semester of 2026, 3996 06:06:39,180 --> 06:06:42,580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 18 of the 28 petitions for civil forfeiture 3997 06:06:42,580 --> 06:06:44,780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: filed were corruption cases, 3998 06:06:44,780 --> 06:06:48,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: covering 15.76 billion in preserved assets. 3999 06:06:48,460 --> 06:06:52,740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 57% of all assets preserved during the period. 4000 06:06:52,740 --> 06:06:54,500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: As of June 30, 2026, five active cases, 4001 06:06:54,500 --> 06:06:55,220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: including the one that was filed, 4002 06:06:55,220 --> 06:06:58,300 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: five active freeze orders in corruption cases, 4003 06:06:58,300 --> 06:07:01,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: over another 1.01 billion. 4004 06:07:01,420 --> 06:07:04,700 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: These cases are pending before the RTC 4005 06:07:04,700 --> 06:07:07,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and judgment of forfeiture will follow trial. 4006 06:07:07,900 --> 06:07:12,860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The flood control cases alone accounted for 22 petitions, 4007 06:07:12,860 --> 06:07:16,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: covering about 16 billion in preserved assets, 4008 06:07:16,100 --> 06:07:19,260 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: as of September 16, 2026. 4009 06:07:19,260 --> 06:07:22,980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Across all of its cases since 2006, 4010 06:07:22,980 --> 06:07:24,940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the courts have issued 106 forfeiture cases, 4011 06:07:24,940 --> 06:07:29,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: forfeiture orders covering 2.17 billion. 4012 06:07:29,100 --> 06:07:33,500 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Of these, 774 million has been returned to victims, 4013 06:07:33,500 --> 06:07:37,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 166 million has been turned over to the national government, 4014 06:07:37,460 --> 06:07:39,860 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and 119 million has been transferred 4015 06:07:39,860 --> 06:07:41,940 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to the Office of the Ombudsman, 4016 06:07:41,940 --> 06:07:45,780 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: while the balance is still at various stages of execution. 4017 06:07:45,780 --> 06:07:46,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Mr. Speaker. 4018 06:07:46,900 --> 06:07:51,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mrs. Speaker, Madam Sponsor. 4019 06:07:51,420 --> 06:07:53,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If AMLC cannot provide the percentage, 4020 06:07:53,780 --> 06:07:54,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: does it presently measure this? 4021 06:07:54,900 --> 06:07:59,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I think one measure of AMLOC effectiveness 4022 06:07:59,220 --> 06:08:02,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in the number of criminal networks first identified 4023 06:08:02,460 --> 06:08:04,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: through its own financial intelligence 4024 06:08:04,540 --> 06:08:06,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: instead of just being reactive. 4025 06:08:06,780 --> 06:08:11,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Would you agree with that, Madam Sponsor? 4026 06:08:11,580 --> 06:08:14,060 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 4027 06:08:14,060 --> 06:08:17,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: This is an important distinction, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor. 4028 06:08:17,900 --> 06:08:22,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If PNP, NBI, PIDEA, and the Ombudsman, 4029 06:08:22,180 --> 06:08:24,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or another agency already identifies us, 4030 06:08:24,900 --> 06:08:29,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: we recognize that we are a suspect and AMLOC then traces the person's account. 4031 06:08:29,220 --> 06:08:30,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That is important work. 4032 06:08:30,740 --> 06:08:32,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: We recognize that. 4033 06:08:32,060 --> 06:08:37,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But AMLOC also received enormous amounts of financial information 4034 06:08:37,820 --> 06:08:41,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: from banks and other covered persons. 4035 06:08:41,140 --> 06:08:47,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So AMLOC should also be capable of identifying suspicious financial activity 4036 06:08:47,660 --> 06:08:52,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: on their own and investigation based on the information. 4037 06:08:52,300 --> 06:08:54,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How often does that happen? 4038 06:08:54,900 --> 06:08:58,220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: It happens regularly and increasingly. 4039 06:08:58,220 --> 06:09:04,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In the first semester of 2026, 751 of the AMLOCs, 4040 06:09:04,100 --> 06:09:10,020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 1,165 financial intelligence products were generated on its own initiative, 4041 06:09:10,020 --> 06:09:13,420 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: including 300 spontaneous disclosures, 4042 06:09:13,420 --> 06:09:18,820 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: cases in which the AMLOC itself identified suspicious activity 4043 06:09:18,820 --> 06:09:24,220 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and referred it to law enforcement or foreign counterparts without a prior request. 4044 06:09:24,220 --> 06:09:26,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: The limiting factor is capacity. 4045 06:09:26,900 --> 06:09:37,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Suspicious transaction reports received rose from 10.9 million in 2023 to 62.9 million in 2025. 4046 06:09:37,100 --> 06:09:40,020 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: In the flood control investigation alone, 4047 06:09:40,020 --> 06:09:44,980 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: the AMLOC analyzed 5,148 suspicious transaction reports 4048 06:09:44,980 --> 06:09:50,580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: and 492,346 covered transaction reports 4049 06:09:50,580 --> 06:09:52,580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to produce 52 financial intelligence products, 4050 06:09:54,940 --> 06:09:57,900 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: on 393 persons of interest. 4051 06:09:57,900 --> 06:10:05,580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Scaling that kind of analysis is what the 2027 budget is for. 4052 06:10:05,580 --> 06:10:09,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mrs. Speaker, Madam Sponsor. 4053 06:10:09,780 --> 06:10:12,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, I'm going back to my first question. 4054 06:10:12,980 --> 06:10:15,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So let me ask very directly, 4055 06:10:15,460 --> 06:10:23,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is the proposed 144 million budget sufficient for the risk AMLOC itself has identified? 4056 06:10:23,300 --> 06:10:24,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasya ho ba ito 4057 06:10:24,460 --> 06:10:29,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sa dami ng ginagawa ninyo, yung budget ninyo? 4058 06:10:39,300 --> 06:10:40,740 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: No, no, Mr. Speaker. 4059 06:10:40,740 --> 06:10:45,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So what are you going to do with the major budget you have? 4060 06:10:45,260 --> 06:10:47,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So how about that? 4061 06:10:47,420 --> 06:10:51,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is it tied in your hands again, just like the ARTA? 4062 06:10:53,300 --> 06:11:09,460 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Actually, Mr. Speaker, 4063 06:11:09,940 --> 06:11:11,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: we want to 4064 06:11:11,100 --> 06:11:13,180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: appeal to the House 4065 06:11:13,180 --> 06:11:15,180 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: to respectfully seek the 4066 06:11:15,180 --> 06:11:16,560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: restoration of the 4067 06:11:16,560 --> 06:11:19,040 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 190 million 4068 06:11:19,040 --> 06:11:21,560 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: 500 4069 06:11:21,560 --> 06:11:23,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, 198 million plus 4070 06:11:23,420 --> 06:11:25,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the 144 million. 4071 06:11:26,000 --> 06:11:26,840 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 4072 06:11:27,180 --> 06:11:29,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That's around 300 something. 4073 06:11:29,920 --> 06:11:31,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Almost to 333 million. 4074 06:11:32,260 --> 06:11:33,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, for my 4075 06:11:33,720 --> 06:11:34,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: last question, 4076 06:11:36,240 --> 06:11:37,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: so, I know that 4077 06:11:37,420 --> 06:11:39,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: AMLA, when it comes to local banks, 4078 06:11:40,180 --> 06:11:41,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: so you can ask 4079 06:11:41,260 --> 06:11:43,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the freezing of assets. How about 4080 06:11:43,300 --> 06:11:44,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the offshore bank outside 4081 06:11:44,700 --> 06:11:46,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Philippines? Do you have any 4082 06:11:46,580 --> 06:11:49,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: inter... 4083 06:11:49,260 --> 06:11:51,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or you have any 4084 06:11:51,260 --> 06:11:52,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: agreement with other? 4085 06:12:00,340 --> 06:12:01,580 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Generally, there's no 4086 06:12:01,580 --> 06:12:03,200 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: jurisdiction, but we coordinate 4087 06:12:03,200 --> 06:12:04,100 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: with them. 4088 06:12:04,100 --> 06:12:05,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, in case 4089 06:12:05,320 --> 06:12:07,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: if one person, banks 4090 06:12:07,620 --> 06:12:09,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in different country, 4091 06:12:10,140 --> 06:12:11,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: so in Caribbean, wala na. 4092 06:12:12,020 --> 06:12:13,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Do they have authority? 4093 06:12:13,760 --> 06:12:15,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Only local? Or you 4094 06:12:15,560 --> 06:12:17,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: can coordinate to other AMLA? 4095 06:12:17,560 --> 06:12:18,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Maybe? 4096 06:12:18,520 --> 06:12:19,320 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: We coordinate 4097 06:12:19,320 --> 06:12:20,200 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: with international. 4098 06:12:21,260 --> 06:12:22,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And maybe it takes time, right? 4099 06:12:23,580 --> 06:12:25,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, Mr. Speaker, 4100 06:12:25,580 --> 06:12:27,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: this is what I'm trying 4101 06:12:27,660 --> 06:12:29,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to say. We're trying to 4102 06:12:29,680 --> 06:12:31,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: put them in a harm's way, 4103 06:12:32,160 --> 06:12:33,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: pero the budget nila, 4104 06:12:34,120 --> 06:12:35,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 334 naging 4105 06:12:35,660 --> 06:12:37,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 144, so 4106 06:12:37,280 --> 06:12:39,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: alaking bagay. So, again, may 4107 06:12:39,520 --> 06:12:41,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: appealing to the 4108 06:12:41,280 --> 06:12:43,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: chairwoman of the appropriation. 4109 06:12:43,340 --> 06:12:45,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sana dagdagan ang budget nyo, just like ATA. 4110 06:12:45,580 --> 06:12:47,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, you can work properly, 4111 06:12:47,520 --> 06:12:48,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: you can deliver 4112 06:12:48,820 --> 06:12:49,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: properly. 4113 06:12:51,260 --> 06:12:51,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, 4114 06:12:53,580 --> 06:12:55,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there's no more, there's being no more 4115 06:12:55,540 --> 06:12:57,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: members of the minority 4116 06:12:57,680 --> 06:12:59,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes 4117 06:12:59,180 --> 06:13:00,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to interpolate. 4118 06:13:01,680 --> 06:13:03,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate 4119 06:13:03,180 --> 06:13:05,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the period of sponsorship and debate 4120 06:13:05,360 --> 06:13:07,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the budget of 4121 06:13:07,620 --> 06:13:09,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: anti-money 4122 06:13:09,360 --> 06:13:10,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: laundering council. 4123 06:13:11,620 --> 06:13:12,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Mr. Speaker. 4124 06:13:13,160 --> 06:13:14,760 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you. What does the House say? 4125 06:13:16,020 --> 06:13:17,620 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, Kong Presley. 4126 06:13:19,380 --> 06:13:20,660 Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 4127 06:13:21,260 --> 06:13:24,940 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader, what does the House say? 4128 06:13:26,220 --> 06:13:27,040 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, 4129 06:13:27,200 --> 06:13:29,100 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: on the part of the majority, we join 4130 06:13:29,100 --> 06:13:31,100 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: the minority in the motion to terminate 4131 06:13:31,100 --> 06:13:33,500 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: the period of interpellations 4132 06:13:33,500 --> 06:13:34,940 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: of the proposed budget 4133 06:13:34,940 --> 06:13:37,200 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: of the anti-money laundering 4134 06:13:37,200 --> 06:13:38,958 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: council. 4135 06:13:38,958 --> 06:13:40,940 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Motion to terminate the interpellations 4136 06:13:40,940 --> 06:13:43,380 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: on the proposed budget of the Anti-Money 4137 06:13:43,380 --> 06:13:44,620 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: laundering council. 4138 06:13:45,420 --> 06:13:46,400 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Is there any objection? 4139 06:13:47,700 --> 06:13:48,580 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is none. 4140 06:13:48,580 --> 06:13:50,640 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The period of interpellations on the proposed 4141 06:13:50,640 --> 06:13:51,240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: budget 4142 06:13:51,260 --> 06:13:53,120 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of the Anti-Money Laundering Council 4143 06:13:53,120 --> 06:13:55,180 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: is hereby terminated. 4144 06:13:56,180 --> 06:13:56,620 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Congratulations. 4145 06:13:57,560 --> 06:13:59,280 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: Mr. Speaker, I move to 4146 06:13:59,280 --> 06:14:00,480 Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza: suspend the session. 4147 06:14:00,480 --> 06:14:01,240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session suspended. 4148 06:18:17,280 --> 06:18:19,840 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session resumed. Majority Leader. 4149 06:18:19,840 --> 06:18:27,520 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. 4150 06:18:27,520 --> 06:18:29,760 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a motion to consider the proposed budget 4151 06:18:29,760 --> 06:18:37,200 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. Objection? Chair hears none. Motion is [unclear]. Majority Leader. 4152 06:18:37,200 --> 06:19:00,000 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency, namely Director General Ricardo de Leon, Deputy Director General Rudolf Futor, Deputy Director General Roberton Lapus, Executive Director Chodor 4153 06:19:00,000 --> 06:19:36,478 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Libardo, Executive Director Jesus Leonardo Auxilio, Assistant Director General Angeles, Assistant Director General Pedro Gabayan, Assistant Director General Anna Lisa Umpar, Assistant Director General Ariel Perlado, Assistant Director General Denis Godfrey Gamad, Assistant Director General Edel Batal and Assistant Director General Jericho Kawan. 4154 06:19:36,478 --> 06:19:52,800 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Our officers from the National Intelligence Coordinating Council, led by Director General Ricardo F. De Leon. Sir, in behalf of Speaker Bod and Majority Leader Sandro Marcos, welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader. 4155 06:19:52,800 --> 06:20:00,000 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable 4156 06:20:00,000 --> 06:20:12,040 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Vice Chair Bella Vanessa Suansing, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. 4157 06:20:12,040 --> 06:20:20,080 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentle lady from the second district of Sultan Kudarat, Honorable Vice Chair Bella Vanessa Suansing, you are recognized. 4158 06:20:20,080 --> 06:20:30,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, magandang gabi. It is a privilege of this representation to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the National 4159 06:20:30,000 --> 06:20:38,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Intelligence Coordinating Agency. We are now ready to answer questions regarding the budget. Thank you. 4160 06:20:38,160 --> 06:20:49,840 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you. Majority Leader. 4161 06:20:49,840 --> 06:21:00,000 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley De Jesus, party-list PHILRECA, 4162 06:21:00,000 --> 06:21:03,320 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: to interpellate the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. 4163 06:21:03,320 --> 06:21:11,200 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Honorable gentleman from party-list PHILRECA, Honorable Presley De Jesus, you are recognized. 4164 06:21:11,200 --> 06:21:30,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There being no more members of the minority who wish to interpellate, I move to terminate the period of sponsorship debate for the budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating 4165 06:21:30,960 --> 06:21:34,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Agency. I so move, Mr. Speaker. 4166 06:21:34,200 --> 06:21:43,000 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: What does the House say? 4167 06:21:43,000 --> 06:21:53,720 Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellations on the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. 4168 06:21:53,720 --> 06:22:00,000 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. 4169 06:22:00,000 --> 06:22:24,520 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Is there any objection? There is none. Motion is approved. The interpellation of the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency is terminated. Majority Leader. 4170 06:22:24,520 --> 06:22:26,080 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the session for a 4171 06:22:26,080 --> 06:22:26,878 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: few minutes. 4172 06:22:26,878 --> 06:22:27,500 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session suspended. 4173 06:25:04,400 --> 06:25:06,360 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session resumed. 4174 06:25:06,360 --> 06:25:07,880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. 4175 06:25:07,880 --> 06:25:12,000 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the National Security Council. 4176 06:25:12,000 --> 06:25:16,560 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a motion to consider the budget of the National Security Council. 4177 06:25:16,560 --> 06:25:18,400 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Is there any objection? There is none. 4178 06:25:18,400 --> 06:25:21,200 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Motion is carried. Majority Leader. 4179 06:25:21,200 --> 06:25:24,080 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials 4180 06:25:24,080 --> 06:25:26,840 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: of the National Security Council, namely 4181 06:25:26,840 --> 06:25:33,160 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: National Security Advisor and Director General Eduardo SL Oban Jr. 4182 06:25:33,160 --> 06:25:48,880 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Deputy Director General and Chief of Staff Benjamin Madrigal Jr., Deputy Director General Pedro S. Soria II, Deputy Director General Nestor Herico, Assistant Director General Francisco F. Mendoza Jr., 4183 06:25:48,880 --> 06:26:00,440 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Officer in Charge, Assistant Director General Maria Lourdes V. Santelises, and Executive Director Danilo Pamonag. I so move, Mr. Speaker. 4184 06:26:00,440 --> 06:26:08,880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Maayong gabi. In behalf of our Speaker Bod and Majority Leader Sandro Marcos, we acknowledge the presence 4185 06:26:08,880 --> 06:26:18,280 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and heads of the National Security Council, National Security Advisor and Director General Eduardo Oban Jr., 4186 06:26:18,280 --> 06:26:26,760 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: our former commanding officer, Deputy Director General and Chief of Staff General Madrigal, 4187 06:26:26,760 --> 06:26:29,160 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Deputy Director General Pedro Soria, 4188 06:26:29,160 --> 06:26:35,200 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Deputy Director General Nestor Herico, Assistant Director General Francisco Mendoza, 4189 06:26:35,200 --> 06:26:41,260 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Official in Charge Assistant Director General Maria Lourdes Santelises, and Executive Director Danilo Pamonag. 4190 06:26:41,260 --> 06:26:43,940 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader. 4191 06:26:45,260 --> 06:26:48,440 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate. 4192 06:26:54,680 --> 06:26:57,880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There's a motion to open the period of sponsorship and debate. 4193 06:26:57,900 --> 06:27:00,708 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Is there any objection? Chair hears none. Motion is carried. 4194 06:27:00,718 --> 06:27:09,140 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chair Bella Vanessa Suansing from the 2nd District of Sultan Kudarat 4195 06:27:09,140 --> 06:27:16,430 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: on the Committee of Appropriations to sponsor the proposed budget of the National Security Council. 4196 06:27:16,440 --> 06:27:24,750 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentle lady from the 2nd District from Sultan Kudarat, Honorable Vice Chair Bella Vanessa, ma'am, you are recognized. 4197 06:27:24,760 --> 06:27:27,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, 4198 06:27:27,900 --> 06:27:36,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: good evening. It is a privilege of this representation to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the National Security Council. 4199 06:27:37,360 --> 06:27:41,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We are now ready to answer questions regarding this proposed budget. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 4200 06:27:42,040 --> 06:27:43,980 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you very much. Majority Leader. 4201 06:27:45,560 --> 06:27:54,800 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Representative of Kabataan Partylist Representative Rene Luis M. Co. 4202 06:27:54,800 --> 06:27:59,080 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: to interpolate on the proposed budget of the National Security Council. 4203 06:27:59,080 --> 06:28:08,280 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentle lady from Kabataan Partylist Representative Rene Luis M. Co. is recognized. Ma'am, you have the floor. 4204 06:28:08,280 --> 06:28:12,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good evening to our distinguished sponsor. 4205 06:28:13,460 --> 06:28:22,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, may the sponsor yield to a few questions in relation to the budget of the National Security Council and spending. 4206 06:28:23,520 --> 06:28:25,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, gladly, Mr. Speaker. 4207 06:28:25,360 --> 06:28:27,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor to refresh. 4208 06:28:27,900 --> 06:28:31,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The August Chamber, what is the budget of the National Security Council? 4209 06:28:33,380 --> 06:28:41,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The fiscal year 2027 budget of the National Security Council proposed amount is 1.136 billion pesos. 4210 06:28:42,280 --> 06:28:47,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This is lower than the fiscal year 2026 level. 4211 06:28:49,420 --> 06:28:54,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Should we look through the details of the breakdown, Mr. Speaker? 4212 06:28:55,360 --> 06:28:57,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We'd like to receive that as well, Mr. Speaker. 4213 06:28:57,900 --> 06:28:58,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor. 4214 06:28:58,880 --> 06:29:02,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: What of its MOOE, Mr. Speaker? 4215 06:29:02,280 --> 06:29:02,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor. 4216 06:29:03,660 --> 06:29:13,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, the MOOE, the proposed 2027 level is 962.568 million pesos, Mr. Speaker. 4217 06:29:13,760 --> 06:29:17,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So most of its budget would be on its MOOE, Mr. Speaker? 4218 06:29:17,740 --> 06:29:18,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor. 4219 06:29:19,760 --> 06:29:21,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, that would be correct, Mr. Speaker. 4220 06:29:22,260 --> 06:29:23,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 4221 06:29:24,520 --> 06:29:27,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I'd like to ask specifically. 4222 06:29:27,900 --> 06:29:34,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Specifically, paano ginamit ng National Security Council yung kanyang MOOE? 4223 06:29:35,140 --> 06:29:44,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We are aware that this year, NSC has released the Philippine Journal on National Security. 4224 06:29:45,380 --> 06:29:47,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Supposedly, this is its first edition. 4225 06:29:48,220 --> 06:29:49,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Supposedly, this is volume one. 4226 06:29:50,260 --> 06:29:54,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, may I request information? 4227 06:29:54,000 --> 06:29:55,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Magkano po ang ginasta? 4228 06:29:56,780 --> 06:29:57,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Para? 4229 06:29:57,900 --> 06:30:00,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mabuo ang Philippine Journal on National Security? 4230 06:30:00,000 --> 06:30:07,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on national security, magkano din ang pinaplano kung meron pong subsequent editions or subsequent volumes nito? 4231 06:30:09,220 --> 06:30:17,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker. With regard to the programs and projects under the MOOE for fiscal year 2026, this? 4232 06:30:18,780 --> 06:30:20,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2027, Mr. Speaker. 4233 06:30:20,160 --> 06:30:21,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ah, for 2027. 4234 06:31:04,240 --> 06:31:20,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: While the agency is pulling up the data, Mr. Speaker, a significant portion of it would be for the implementation of the National Strategic Plan and the National Security Strategy. 4235 06:31:20,820 --> 06:31:29,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: These would also be allocated towards strategic engagements at the bilateral, trilateral, and multilateral levels. 4236 06:31:30,000 --> 06:31:40,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As well as the monitoring of the NSP and NSS implementations and systems improvement on the administrative side of the NSC. 4237 06:31:40,800 --> 06:31:41,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. 4238 06:31:41,720 --> 06:31:50,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we'd like to request details on how much was spent on the Philippine National Security Journal. 4239 06:32:59,320 --> 06:33:04,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, colleague, as for the NSC? 4240 06:33:18,880 --> 06:33:24,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regard to the printing and publication expenses? 4241 06:33:24,000 --> 06:33:24,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 4242 06:33:35,840 --> 06:33:48,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This is just for all publications, the printing and publication expenses for 2020. 4243 06:33:48,000 --> 06:33:50,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's 2.1 billion. 4244 06:33:52,000 --> 06:33:54,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2.1 billion, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? 4245 06:33:54,840 --> 06:33:55,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Million. 4246 06:33:55,840 --> 06:33:58,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 2.1 million, Mr. Speaker. 4247 06:33:58,020 --> 06:33:59,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For all publication expenses. 4248 06:34:00,000 --> 06:34:00,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 4249 06:34:00,580 --> 06:34:02,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And not specifically this journal only. 4250 06:34:02,500 --> 06:34:03,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 4251 06:34:04,040 --> 06:34:08,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we'd also like to request a breakdown of that data once available. 4252 06:34:09,280 --> 06:34:13,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: If this week is doable, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 4253 06:34:15,380 --> 06:34:17,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the agency will comply. 4254 06:34:18,500 --> 06:34:27,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we'd like to take a moment to check the contents, the validity, 4255 06:34:27,540 --> 06:34:29,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and even to… 4256 06:34:30,000 --> 06:34:40,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: To scrutinize whether the budget going to the publication of this journal is indeed 4257 06:34:40,080 --> 06:34:45,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: money well spent for the public, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 4258 06:34:45,680 --> 06:34:53,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: First of all, we'd like to note that in the foreword of this journal, it is the maiden 4259 06:34:53,160 --> 06:34:58,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: issue that states that it is vital in advancing scholarly inquiry. 4260 06:34:58,940 --> 06:35:02,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Especially to inform policy discourse. 4261 06:35:02,020 --> 06:35:09,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And to clarify, this maiden issue of the Philippine Journal on National Security is entitled, 4262 06:35:09,020 --> 06:35:15,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Target to Threat, the Psychology and Prevention of Terror Grooming. 4263 06:35:15,020 --> 06:35:27,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Where here it says, and in the first page of the journal, that there is a vulnerable stage where young minds, 4264 06:35:27,320 --> 06:35:28,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: shaped by curiosity, 4265 06:35:28,940 --> 06:35:30,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and uncertainty, 4266 06:35:30,720 --> 06:35:33,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: become potential targets of manipulation 4267 06:35:33,000 --> 06:35:34,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and radical influence. 4268 06:35:36,320 --> 06:35:37,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It highlights that terror grooming 4269 06:35:37,640 --> 06:35:38,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: can begin in familiar environments 4270 06:35:39,520 --> 06:35:40,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: such as schools, 4271 06:35:41,040 --> 06:35:43,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: where ideologies can quietly take root. 4272 06:35:44,040 --> 06:35:45,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, apparently, this issue 4273 06:35:45,440 --> 06:35:46,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would like to advance 4274 06:35:47,460 --> 06:35:48,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: scholarly inquiry 4275 06:35:48,760 --> 06:35:50,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on terror tagging 4276 06:35:50,560 --> 06:35:53,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and how vulnerable young minds 4277 06:35:53,220 --> 06:35:54,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are in schools 4278 06:35:54,140 --> 06:35:57,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for what it describes 4279 06:35:57,580 --> 06:35:58,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to be 4280 06:35:58,940 --> 06:36:04,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: manipulation and radical influence. 4281 06:36:05,800 --> 06:36:07,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yet, how can the journal 4282 06:36:07,800 --> 06:36:10,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and agency advance scholarly inquiry 4283 06:36:10,820 --> 06:36:12,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 4284 06:36:13,360 --> 06:36:15,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: one, nowhere in the journal 4285 06:36:15,180 --> 06:36:17,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does it state that it has 4286 06:36:17,040 --> 06:36:19,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: gone through peer review policy 4287 06:36:19,000 --> 06:36:21,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and has no reviewer list 4288 06:36:21,500 --> 06:36:23,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when the editorial board 4289 06:36:23,560 --> 06:36:24,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is composed entirely 4290 06:36:24,760 --> 06:36:26,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of NSC officials by rank, 4291 06:36:26,820 --> 06:36:28,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: not independent academic experts. 4292 06:36:28,940 --> 06:36:30,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And the editor-in-chief 4293 06:36:30,940 --> 06:36:32,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is also a contributing author 4294 06:36:32,940 --> 06:36:34,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of two pieces. 4295 06:36:34,940 --> 06:36:36,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The editor's note and an article 4296 06:36:36,940 --> 06:36:38,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which, to this representation, 4297 06:36:38,940 --> 06:36:40,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is a display 4298 06:36:40,940 --> 06:36:42,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of conflict of interest. 4299 06:36:42,940 --> 06:36:44,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 4300 06:36:44,940 --> 06:36:46,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: what is the plan 4301 06:36:46,940 --> 06:36:48,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of NSC when it said that this 4302 06:36:48,940 --> 06:36:50,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: journal will advance 4303 06:36:50,940 --> 06:36:52,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: scholarly inquiry 4304 06:36:52,940 --> 06:36:54,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when it suffers through 4305 06:36:54,940 --> 06:36:56,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: these limitations 4306 06:36:56,940 --> 06:36:58,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the journal? 4307 06:39:23,480 --> 06:39:27,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, if it would be possible that our time would be paused 4308 06:39:27,940 --> 06:39:29,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: While the sponsor 4309 06:39:29,580 --> 06:39:30,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: confers with the agency. 4310 06:40:36,560 --> 06:41:01,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, as for the NSC, this journal mentioned by our distinguished colleague is actually a compilation of different editorials from different sectors. 4311 06:41:01,120 --> 06:41:27,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This was also produced through the strategic communications cluster of the NTF-ELCAC. We agree that if it were to be deemed a scholarly inquiry, our distinguished colleague is correct that it should be peer reviewed. Claiming that it would be a scholarly inquiry and not 4312 06:41:27,940 --> 06:41:29,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it abiding by the standards of 4313 06:41:30,480 --> 06:41:35,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: academic scholarship is not 4314 06:41:35,680 --> 06:41:37,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it wouldn't be 4315 06:41:37,420 --> 06:41:39,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it shouldn't qualify then as a scholarship 4316 06:41:39,960 --> 06:41:42,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: inquiry, Mr. Speaker. 4317 06:41:42,760 --> 06:41:44,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 4318 06:41:44,720 --> 06:41:46,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: there is confirmation 4319 06:41:46,020 --> 06:41:47,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that this 4320 06:41:47,700 --> 06:41:49,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: journal, which it purports to 4321 06:41:49,980 --> 06:41:51,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be a journal, did not undergo 4322 06:41:51,980 --> 06:41:53,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: peer review and 4323 06:41:53,760 --> 06:41:55,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: no reviewer 4324 06:41:55,260 --> 06:41:57,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: went through the articles 4325 06:41:57,940 --> 06:42:00,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to vet them 4326 06:42:00,100 --> 06:42:01,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: if they pass 4327 06:42:01,500 --> 06:42:04,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: standards of academic 4328 06:42:04,100 --> 06:42:05,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: rigor that is expected 4329 06:42:05,960 --> 06:42:07,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when we publish 4330 06:42:07,800 --> 06:42:09,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: any sort of 4331 06:42:09,800 --> 06:42:11,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: scholarly pursuit 4332 06:42:11,080 --> 06:42:14,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in compilations that we 4333 06:42:14,020 --> 06:42:15,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: purport to be, quote-unquote, 4334 06:42:16,000 --> 06:42:17,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: journals. Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 4335 06:42:21,680 --> 06:42:24,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the stated methodology 4336 06:42:24,280 --> 06:42:25,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the said journal, 4337 06:42:25,920 --> 06:42:27,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, it employs, 4338 06:42:27,940 --> 06:42:32,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: comprehensive desktop review from peer-reviewed journals, periodicals, articles, and other studies. 4339 06:42:33,320 --> 06:42:34,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's also conducted key interviews 4340 06:42:34,740 --> 06:42:36,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with subject matter experts 4341 06:42:36,220 --> 06:42:38,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to reinforce the findings 4342 06:42:38,100 --> 06:42:39,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: on neuroscience and psychology. 4343 06:42:40,700 --> 06:42:42,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is there a reviewer list, Mr. Speaker? 4344 06:42:42,880 --> 06:42:43,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor. 4345 06:42:43,900 --> 06:42:46,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Because while the description 4346 06:42:46,900 --> 06:42:48,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does mention the words 4347 06:42:48,060 --> 06:42:50,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: peer-review to this representation, 4348 06:42:51,220 --> 06:42:52,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: desktop review 4349 06:42:52,160 --> 06:42:53,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of peer-reviewed journals 4350 06:42:53,900 --> 06:42:55,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is not equal to peer-review. 4351 06:42:55,320 --> 06:42:57,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We agree. 4352 06:42:57,940 --> 06:43:00,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So there's no reviewer list, Mr. Speaker. 4353 06:43:01,020 --> 06:43:01,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor. 4354 06:44:10,920 --> 06:44:27,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, to save everyone time, we may just request the good sponsor to share any information that it will countercheck, maybe later or by the end of this week. But to note, we did look at the 4355 06:44:27,940 --> 06:44:38,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The quote-unquote journal itself, it does not list names of reviewers, and it does not provide a peer review policy. 4356 06:44:38,680 --> 06:44:42,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonetheless, Mr. Speaker, may I move on to my other questions? Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? 4357 06:44:45,080 --> 06:44:46,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 4358 06:44:46,680 --> 06:44:55,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, what this representation has pointed out on issues of peer review, 4359 06:44:55,780 --> 06:44:58,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on the list of reviewers. 4360 06:45:00,000 --> 06:45:08,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The members of the editorial board and even the conflict of interest displayed by the Editor-in-Chief 4361 06:45:08,420 --> 06:45:15,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is just among the many issues that we've found in this publication. 4362 06:45:16,680 --> 06:45:18,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, my next question would be, 4363 06:45:18,840 --> 06:45:29,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is the NSC aware that an article in this publication cites a source to support its quote-unquote brain-based thesis for terrorism 4364 06:45:29,560 --> 06:45:36,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wherein the very source explicitly warns against the very interpretation and use of its work? 4365 06:45:36,740 --> 06:45:45,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In particular, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, Bautista, the Editor-in-Chief and a writer of one of the articles in this publication 4366 06:45:45,820 --> 06:45:52,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: cites the quote-unquote wired brain thesis on Canay et al. as if settled. 4367 06:45:52,520 --> 06:45:57,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: However, Canay's own team explicitly cautioned against over-interpreting the finding. 4368 06:45:58,700 --> 06:45:59,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thus, this... 4369 06:45:59,560 --> 06:46:08,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This thesis remains one of the most heavily scrutinized, weakly replicated studies in political neuroscience. 4370 06:46:08,980 --> 06:46:11,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, is the NSC aware of this? 4371 06:47:07,960 --> 06:47:10,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, 4372 06:47:10,200 --> 06:47:10,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Dr. 4373 06:47:11,340 --> 06:47:13,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We're talking about Dr. Teodoro Bautista. 4374 06:47:14,480 --> 06:47:15,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 4375 06:47:15,680 --> 06:47:17,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the agency confirms that 4376 06:47:17,640 --> 06:47:19,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Dr. Bautista was a consultant 4377 06:47:19,560 --> 06:47:20,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for 4378 06:47:20,900 --> 06:47:23,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this particular project. 4379 06:47:23,680 --> 06:47:25,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For this particular project, 4380 06:47:25,620 --> 06:47:26,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. 4381 06:47:26,060 --> 06:47:28,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 4382 06:47:29,540 --> 06:47:31,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Dr. Teodoro Bautista is also the editor-in-chief 4383 06:47:31,820 --> 06:47:33,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and also 4384 06:47:33,060 --> 06:47:35,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: writer of one of the articles. 4385 06:47:35,540 --> 06:47:37,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And it says 4386 06:47:37,260 --> 06:47:38,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that 4387 06:47:38,420 --> 06:47:41,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this article adopts the 4388 06:47:41,000 --> 06:47:42,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wired brain thesis 4389 06:47:42,180 --> 06:47:44,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that 4390 06:47:44,720 --> 06:47:47,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the publishers 4391 06:47:47,000 --> 06:47:48,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of that theory itself 4392 06:47:48,960 --> 06:47:51,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: explicitly cautioned 4393 06:47:51,680 --> 06:47:53,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: against over-interpreting the finding. 4394 06:47:54,120 --> 06:47:55,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 4395 06:47:55,260 --> 06:47:57,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We'd just like to 4396 06:47:57,040 --> 06:48:00,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ask if the NSC is aware 4397 06:48:00,200 --> 06:48:02,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that one of the 4398 06:48:02,520 --> 06:48:04,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: thesis on 4399 06:48:04,540 --> 06:48:06,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its articles on terror grooming 4400 06:48:06,260 --> 06:48:08,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: has a source that explicitly 4401 06:48:08,800 --> 06:48:10,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: warns against the very 4402 06:48:10,880 --> 06:48:12,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: interpretation in that thesis 4403 06:48:12,980 --> 06:48:14,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the use of its work. 4404 06:48:15,680 --> 06:48:16,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We ask this question, 4405 06:48:17,080 --> 06:48:18,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, because we'd like to 4406 06:48:18,940 --> 06:48:20,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: check the scientific, 4407 06:48:21,120 --> 06:48:22,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: academic, scholarly rigor that 4408 06:48:22,800 --> 06:48:24,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: really underwent in the publication 4409 06:48:24,900 --> 06:48:25,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of these articles. 4410 06:48:26,560 --> 06:48:29,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Was there effort to check the sources 4411 06:48:29,020 --> 06:48:30,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the cautions 4412 06:48:30,480 --> 06:48:32,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that these authors 4413 06:48:32,980 --> 06:48:35,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: gave before any 4414 06:48:35,080 --> 06:48:36,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: other author can 4415 06:48:36,220 --> 06:48:39,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: subsequently use and adopt 4416 06:48:39,120 --> 06:48:40,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the theories that it 4417 06:48:40,300 --> 06:48:43,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: had and published 4418 06:48:43,080 --> 06:48:44,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in its findings? Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 4419 06:48:45,140 --> 06:48:47,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker, the agency 4420 06:48:47,000 --> 06:48:48,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: commits to 4421 06:48:48,080 --> 06:48:51,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: speaking with the editorial 4422 06:48:51,240 --> 06:48:53,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: team that crafted 4423 06:48:53,020 --> 06:48:53,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this journal. 4424 06:48:54,900 --> 06:48:56,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Especially with regards to this 4425 06:48:56,960 --> 06:48:59,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: wire-brain thesis and the 4426 06:48:59,040 --> 06:49:00,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: interpretations that the 4427 06:49:00,900 --> 06:49:03,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: journal made 4428 06:49:03,060 --> 06:49:04,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: regarding this thesis. 4429 06:49:04,940 --> 06:49:07,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker. We look forward 4430 06:49:07,000 --> 06:49:08,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to whatever the results of that 4431 06:49:08,960 --> 06:49:10,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: discussion would be, Mr. Speaker, 4432 06:49:10,980 --> 06:49:12,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, if this representation could 4433 06:49:12,900 --> 06:49:13,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be furnished 4434 06:49:13,580 --> 06:49:16,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its post-consultation 4435 06:49:16,900 --> 06:49:18,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: report. But, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 4436 06:49:19,020 --> 06:49:20,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that's not the only 4437 06:49:20,200 --> 06:49:22,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: red flag that this 4438 06:49:22,820 --> 06:49:24,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: representation found perusing 4439 06:49:24,900 --> 06:49:26,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this publication. 4440 06:49:27,140 --> 06:49:28,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question would be, how can 4441 06:49:28,940 --> 06:49:31,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the NSC reconcile the direct contradiction 4442 06:49:31,140 --> 06:49:33,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: between its own articles 4443 06:49:33,180 --> 06:49:35,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wherein one article finds 4444 06:49:35,020 --> 06:49:36,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: quote-unquote terrorists 4445 06:49:36,400 --> 06:49:39,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to show no distinguishable 4446 06:49:39,260 --> 06:49:40,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: psychopathology? 4447 06:49:41,140 --> 06:49:42,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, basically, walang makakapagsabi 4448 06:49:42,840 --> 06:49:45,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or walang one neural 4449 06:49:45,040 --> 06:49:46,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: network or indicator 4450 06:49:46,840 --> 06:49:48,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a terrorist can be a terrorist. 4451 06:49:49,260 --> 06:49:51,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero may isang article naman po 4452 06:49:51,180 --> 06:49:53,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang claim that there is an innate 4453 06:49:53,200 --> 06:49:54,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: neurological predisposition. 4454 06:49:54,900 --> 06:49:57,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For one to be a terrorist. 4455 06:49:57,800 --> 06:49:59,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Now, Mr. Speaker, 4456 06:49:59,440 --> 06:50:01,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, I'd like to give some time 4457 06:50:01,120 --> 06:50:02,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to flesh this out 4458 06:50:02,520 --> 06:50:04,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as provided in the journal. 4459 06:50:05,360 --> 06:50:07,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Now, Bolinao's, Bolinao is 4460 06:50:07,120 --> 06:50:08,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: one of the authors of the 4461 06:50:08,560 --> 06:50:10,460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the publication. 4462 06:50:11,660 --> 06:50:13,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It's their own literature review 4463 06:50:13,260 --> 06:50:15,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: states plainly that there's 4464 06:50:15,220 --> 06:50:17,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: no evidence that terrorists are mentally 4465 06:50:17,140 --> 06:50:19,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: disturbed and the outstanding 4466 06:50:19,220 --> 06:50:21,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: common characteristic of terrorists 4467 06:50:21,000 --> 06:50:23,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is normality. These are quotes. 4468 06:50:23,080 --> 06:50:24,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It explicitly rejects, 4469 06:50:24,900 --> 06:50:26,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: individual pathology or 4470 06:50:26,660 --> 06:50:28,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: trait-based explanations. 4471 06:50:28,660 --> 06:50:30,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: However, Dr. Bautista's 4472 06:50:30,900 --> 06:50:32,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: article asserts the opposite. 4473 06:50:32,900 --> 06:50:34,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That some people are 4474 06:50:34,900 --> 06:50:36,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: neurologically predisposed 4475 06:50:36,900 --> 06:50:38,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to terrorism. This is a 4476 06:50:38,900 --> 06:50:40,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: foundational disagreement between the two articles. 4477 06:50:40,900 --> 06:50:42,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Then, the editor's 4478 06:50:42,900 --> 06:50:44,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: note, which Dr. Bautista 4479 06:50:44,900 --> 06:50:46,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wrote, which 4480 06:50:46,900 --> 06:50:48,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: should synthesize the 4481 06:50:48,900 --> 06:50:50,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: issue's contributions and 4482 06:50:50,900 --> 06:50:52,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: supposedly weigh their epistemic 4483 06:50:52,900 --> 06:50:54,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: values, instead, 4484 06:50:54,800 --> 06:50:56,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: adopts the weaker, more 4485 06:50:56,800 --> 06:50:58,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: scientifically contested claim 4486 06:50:58,800 --> 06:51:00,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: uncritically, which is that 4487 06:51:00,800 --> 06:51:02,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron pong brain structure, 4488 06:51:02,800 --> 06:51:04,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang mga iilan, that they 4489 06:51:04,800 --> 06:51:06,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are quote-unquote more predisposed 4490 06:51:06,800 --> 06:51:08,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to terrorism. Mr. Speaker, 4491 06:51:08,800 --> 06:51:10,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, what is the explanation that the 4492 06:51:10,800 --> 06:51:12,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: NSC can provide with us 4493 06:51:12,800 --> 06:51:14,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on this? There's a direct contradiction 4494 06:51:14,800 --> 06:51:16,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: between its own articles. 4495 06:51:16,800 --> 06:51:18,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And NSC reconciles 4496 06:51:18,800 --> 06:51:20,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that by siding with the weaker 4497 06:51:20,800 --> 06:51:22,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and more scientifically contested 4498 06:51:22,800 --> 06:51:24,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: claim. Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 4499 06:51:24,800 --> 06:51:26,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague. 4500 06:51:26,800 --> 06:51:28,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That is, 4501 06:51:28,800 --> 06:51:30,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I think, one of the characteristics 4502 06:51:30,800 --> 06:51:32,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of compilations of case 4503 06:51:32,800 --> 06:51:34,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: studies, given that 4504 06:51:34,800 --> 06:51:36,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: these case studies 4505 06:51:36,800 --> 06:51:38,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: are, these are case studies 4506 06:51:38,800 --> 06:51:40,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of lived experiences. 4507 06:51:40,800 --> 06:51:42,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Those are the contents 4508 06:51:42,800 --> 06:51:44,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the journal, as well as 4509 06:51:44,800 --> 06:51:46,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: reviews of 4510 06:51:46,800 --> 06:51:48,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: peer-reviewed 4511 06:51:48,800 --> 06:51:50,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: journals and articles. 4512 06:51:50,800 --> 06:51:52,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, given that, for example, a 4513 06:51:52,800 --> 06:51:54,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: case study 4514 06:51:54,800 --> 06:51:56,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: from one area 4515 06:51:56,800 --> 06:51:58,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would encapsulate a different experience 4516 06:51:58,800 --> 06:52:00,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: versus another case 4517 06:52:00,800 --> 06:52:02,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: study conducted in another area 4518 06:52:02,800 --> 06:52:04,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would encapsulate a different 4519 06:52:04,800 --> 06:52:06,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: experience. So, 4520 06:52:06,800 --> 06:52:08,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there would arise 4521 06:52:08,800 --> 06:52:10,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in those kinds of situations 4522 06:52:10,800 --> 06:52:12,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: contradictions. 4523 06:52:12,800 --> 06:52:14,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Given the 4524 06:52:14,800 --> 06:52:16,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: nature of this journal, 4525 06:52:16,800 --> 06:52:18,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is really, as 4526 06:52:18,800 --> 06:52:20,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: per the agency, 4527 06:52:20,800 --> 06:52:22,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a compilation of lived experiences, 4528 06:52:22,800 --> 06:52:24,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which 4529 06:52:24,800 --> 06:52:26,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: are also 4530 06:52:26,800 --> 06:52:28,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with incorporations of 4531 06:52:28,800 --> 06:52:30,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: peer, 4532 06:52:30,800 --> 06:52:32,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: well, peer-reviewed journals, 4533 06:52:32,800 --> 06:52:34,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: like excerpts from those 4534 06:52:34,800 --> 06:52:36,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: peer-reviewed journals. 4535 06:52:36,800 --> 06:52:38,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Given that it's 4536 06:52:38,800 --> 06:52:40,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a compilation, 4537 06:52:40,800 --> 06:52:42,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it really, there would be contradictions. 4538 06:52:42,800 --> 06:52:44,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That's for the agency, 4539 06:52:44,800 --> 06:52:46,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. 4540 06:52:46,800 --> 06:52:48,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 4541 06:52:48,800 --> 06:52:50,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it is evident in the editor's note 4542 06:52:50,800 --> 06:52:52,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that the editor 4543 06:52:52,800 --> 06:52:54,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in chief 4544 06:52:54,800 --> 06:52:56,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is inclined 4545 06:52:56,800 --> 06:52:58,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to nonetheless 4546 06:52:58,800 --> 06:53:00,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: undertake one interpretation 4547 06:53:00,800 --> 06:53:02,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: over another. 4548 06:53:02,800 --> 06:53:04,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But, Mr. Speaker, my other question 4549 06:53:04,800 --> 06:53:06,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would be 4550 06:53:06,800 --> 06:53:08,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: regarding the list of authors. 4551 06:53:08,800 --> 06:53:10,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Aside from 4552 06:53:10,800 --> 06:53:12,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the issues in particular 4553 06:53:12,800 --> 06:53:14,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: articles and even in the 4554 06:53:14,800 --> 06:53:16,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: construction of 4555 06:53:16,800 --> 06:53:18,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the compilation, 4556 06:53:18,800 --> 06:53:20,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: so to speak, 4557 06:53:20,800 --> 06:53:22,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: one of the authors is a professor 4558 06:53:22,800 --> 06:53:24,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at the United 4559 06:53:24,800 --> 06:53:26,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the University of Santo Tomas, 4560 06:53:26,800 --> 06:53:28,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Marlon Villarin. 4561 06:53:28,800 --> 06:53:30,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So why has the NSC 4562 06:53:30,800 --> 06:53:32,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: given 4563 06:53:32,800 --> 06:53:34,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Marlon Villarin a platform 4564 06:53:34,800 --> 06:53:36,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when he clearly has conflict of interest 4565 06:53:36,800 --> 06:53:38,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the topic at hand? 4566 06:53:38,800 --> 06:53:40,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, the conflict 4567 06:53:40,800 --> 06:53:42,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: interest I'm talking about here 4568 06:53:42,800 --> 06:53:44,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is that he has filed a 4569 06:53:44,800 --> 06:53:46,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 50-page complaint against 4570 06:53:46,800 --> 06:53:48,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: several student activists 4571 06:53:48,800 --> 06:53:50,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in UST and has been alleged 4572 06:53:50,800 --> 06:53:52,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of red-tagging, defamatory 4573 06:53:52,800 --> 06:53:54,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: insinuations, misogynistic 4574 06:53:54,800 --> 06:53:56,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: statements, and harassment. 4575 06:53:56,800 --> 06:53:58,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, a cursory 4576 06:53:58,800 --> 06:54:00,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: glance at his social media 4577 06:54:00,800 --> 06:54:02,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pages provide 4578 06:54:02,800 --> 06:54:04,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a handful, a myriad 4579 06:54:04,800 --> 06:54:06,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of these statements 4580 06:54:06,800 --> 06:54:08,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: against student activists, in particular 4581 06:54:08,800 --> 06:54:10,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: female student activists 4582 06:54:10,800 --> 06:54:12,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: where those that 4583 06:54:12,800 --> 06:54:14,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are subject 4584 06:54:14,800 --> 06:54:16,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to his ire would be 4585 06:54:16,800 --> 06:54:18,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the target of misogynistic 4586 06:54:18,800 --> 06:54:20,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: statements alongside 4587 06:54:20,800 --> 06:54:22,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: red-tagging and harassment. 4588 06:54:22,800 --> 06:54:24,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, in the article 4589 06:54:24,800 --> 06:54:26,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that Marlon Villarin 4590 06:54:26,800 --> 06:54:28,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: published under this 4591 06:54:28,800 --> 06:54:30,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: publication, and I'd like 4592 06:54:30,800 --> 06:54:32,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the 4593 06:54:32,800 --> 06:54:34,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pleasure of the body 4594 06:54:34,800 --> 06:54:36,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: into just letting me quote 4595 06:54:36,800 --> 06:54:38,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in particular a portion 4596 06:54:38,800 --> 06:54:40,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the article he stated. 4597 06:54:40,800 --> 06:54:42,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: He said that 4598 06:54:42,800 --> 06:54:44,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: HEIs afford an opportunity 4599 06:54:44,800 --> 06:54:46,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to students to air the voices 4600 06:54:46,800 --> 06:54:48,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of fellow students besides 4601 06:54:48,800 --> 06:54:50,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: being involved in policy formulation 4602 06:54:50,800 --> 06:54:52,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: within the institution. 4603 06:54:52,800 --> 06:54:54,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Socially political active organizations 4604 06:54:54,800 --> 06:54:56,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: refer to the National 4605 06:54:56,800 --> 06:54:58,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Union of Students of the Philippines 4606 06:54:58,800 --> 06:55:00,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which conducts political 4607 06:55:00,800 --> 06:55:02,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: campaigns like voter registration 4608 06:55:02,800 --> 06:55:04,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and educational reforms 4609 06:55:04,800 --> 06:55:06,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: among other social activities. 4610 06:55:06,800 --> 06:55:08,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: However, 4611 06:55:08,800 --> 06:55:10,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the student participation 4612 06:55:10,800 --> 06:55:12,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in civic activities 4613 06:55:12,800 --> 06:55:14,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: both on a classroom and extracurricular 4614 06:55:14,800 --> 06:55:16,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: basis poses 4615 06:55:16,800 --> 06:55:18,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: risk of radicalization 4616 06:55:18,800 --> 06:55:20,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and extremism if not properly 4617 06:55:20,800 --> 06:55:22,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mentored or supervised. 4618 06:55:22,800 --> 06:55:24,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In this regard, extremism 4619 06:55:24,800 --> 06:55:26,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is not far-fetched across such 4620 06:55:26,800 --> 06:55:28,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: political education. 4621 06:55:28,800 --> 06:55:30,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, to me this is absurd 4622 06:55:30,800 --> 06:55:32,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: how it links 4623 06:55:32,800 --> 06:55:34,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: political activities, civic 4624 06:55:34,800 --> 06:55:36,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: activities like voters education 4625 06:55:36,800 --> 06:55:38,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and educational reforms to 4626 06:55:38,800 --> 06:55:40,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: risk of radicalization 4627 06:55:40,800 --> 06:55:42,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and extremism. Mr. Speaker, good 4628 06:55:42,800 --> 06:55:44,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor, I'd like an explanation. 4629 06:55:44,800 --> 06:55:46,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Why is this professor one of the 4630 06:55:46,800 --> 06:55:48,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: authors in this 4631 06:55:48,800 --> 06:55:50,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: compilation when 4632 06:55:50,800 --> 06:55:52,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: he can be said that 4633 06:55:52,800 --> 06:55:54,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: his entire 4634 06:55:54,800 --> 06:55:56,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: academic rigor on this topic 4635 06:55:56,800 --> 06:55:58,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is under question given that 4636 06:55:58,800 --> 06:56:00,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: his conflict 4637 06:56:00,800 --> 06:56:02,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of interest exists? 4638 06:56:02,800 --> 06:56:04,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 4639 06:56:04,800 --> 06:56:06,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker, the agency 4640 06:56:06,800 --> 06:56:08,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: notes that concern 4641 06:56:08,800 --> 06:56:10,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: by Mr. Grish's colleague. 4642 06:56:10,800 --> 06:56:12,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The agency will 4643 06:56:12,800 --> 06:56:14,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: consult with the strategic 4644 06:56:14,800 --> 06:56:16,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: communications cluster of the 4645 06:56:16,800 --> 06:56:18,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: NTF-ELCAC given that 4646 06:56:18,800 --> 06:56:20,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this journal was published 4647 06:56:20,800 --> 06:56:22,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: through the strategic communications 4648 06:56:22,800 --> 06:56:24,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: cluster of the ELCAC. 4649 06:56:24,800 --> 06:56:26,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This cluster is tasked with 4650 06:56:26,800 --> 06:56:28,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: looking at and approving 4651 06:56:28,800 --> 06:56:30,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the contributing authors 4652 06:56:30,800 --> 06:56:32,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of journals 4653 06:56:32,800 --> 06:56:34,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that come out of that cluster. 4654 06:56:34,800 --> 06:56:36,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, we will inform our distinguished 4655 06:56:36,800 --> 06:56:38,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: colleague with regards to the 4656 06:56:38,800 --> 06:56:40,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: results of that consultation. 4657 06:56:40,800 --> 06:56:42,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 4658 06:56:42,800 --> 06:56:44,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does the NSE plan to publish more 4659 06:56:44,800 --> 06:56:46,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: journals? Through what process? 4660 06:56:46,800 --> 06:56:48,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And what will be the topics? 4661 06:56:48,800 --> 06:56:50,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Will we expect 4662 06:56:50,800 --> 06:56:52,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the same level of 4663 06:56:52,800 --> 06:56:54,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in this 4664 06:56:54,800 --> 06:56:56,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: representation opinion 4665 06:56:56,800 --> 06:56:58,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: carelessness in vetting 4666 06:56:58,800 --> 06:57:00,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the list of authors who will be 4667 06:57:00,800 --> 06:57:02,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: collaborated with 4668 06:57:02,800 --> 06:57:04,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in these publications 4669 06:57:04,800 --> 06:57:06,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the objectives of the journals? 4670 06:57:06,800 --> 06:57:08,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 4671 06:57:10,800 --> 06:57:12,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There are no 4672 06:57:12,800 --> 06:57:14,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: publications in line 4673 06:57:14,800 --> 06:57:16,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as of now, 4674 06:57:16,800 --> 06:57:18,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. 4675 06:57:18,800 --> 06:57:20,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 4676 06:57:20,800 --> 06:57:22,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we note the answer of the 4677 06:57:22,800 --> 06:57:24,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor after conferring with the 4678 06:57:24,800 --> 06:57:26,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: agency. 4679 06:57:26,800 --> 06:57:28,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But if anything, this should be seen 4680 06:57:28,800 --> 06:57:30,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as a state attempt to intellectualize 4681 06:57:30,800 --> 06:57:32,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and legitimize a concept. 4682 06:57:32,800 --> 06:57:34,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The concept of quote unquote 4683 06:57:34,800 --> 06:57:36,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terror grooming, style like a journal 4684 06:57:36,800 --> 06:57:38,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which now we have heard on the floor 4685 06:57:38,800 --> 06:57:40,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that is a compilation. 4686 06:57:40,800 --> 06:57:42,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That is the more accurate term 4687 06:57:42,800 --> 06:57:44,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to purvey that intellectual 4688 06:57:44,800 --> 06:57:46,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: legitimacy. 4689 06:57:46,800 --> 06:57:48,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: While not being thorough with the actual 4690 06:57:48,800 --> 06:57:50,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: process of academic rigor, 4691 06:57:50,800 --> 06:57:52,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: review, and criticism. 4692 06:57:52,800 --> 06:57:54,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This means that none of its claims 4693 06:57:54,800 --> 06:57:56,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: should be 4694 06:57:56,800 --> 06:57:58,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: passed independent expert scrutiny 4695 06:57:58,800 --> 06:58:00,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: before publication. 4696 06:58:00,800 --> 06:58:02,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Which directly puts into the doubt 4697 06:58:02,800 --> 06:58:04,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its validity as a concept and the weight 4698 06:58:04,800 --> 06:58:06,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it should carry in policy debate. 4699 06:58:06,800 --> 06:58:08,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 4700 06:58:08,800 --> 06:58:10,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the very fact that NTF-LCAC 4701 06:58:10,800 --> 06:58:12,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: has to be one of the 4702 06:58:12,800 --> 06:58:14,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: advised in these 4703 06:58:14,800 --> 06:58:16,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: publications is already 4704 06:58:16,800 --> 06:58:18,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a red flag that we'd like to note. 4705 06:58:18,800 --> 06:58:20,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 4706 06:58:20,800 --> 06:58:22,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as a last line of questioning 4707 06:58:22,800 --> 06:58:24,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of this representation, 4708 06:58:24,800 --> 06:58:26,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I'd like to ask 4709 06:58:26,800 --> 06:58:28,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because in the text 4710 06:58:28,800 --> 06:58:30,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the journal, it explicitly 4711 06:58:30,800 --> 06:58:32,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: states that 4712 06:58:32,800 --> 06:58:34,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: socio-economic inequalities 4713 06:58:34,800 --> 06:58:36,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: like poverty, land dispossession, 4714 06:58:36,800 --> 06:58:38,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: injustices, 4715 06:58:38,800 --> 06:58:40,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: marginalization, historical trauma, 4716 06:58:40,800 --> 06:58:42,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: etc. are recognized 4717 06:58:42,800 --> 06:58:44,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but these structures 4718 06:58:44,800 --> 06:58:46,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and social realities 4719 06:58:46,800 --> 06:58:48,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the journal says 4720 06:58:48,800 --> 06:58:50,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are stated to be 4721 06:58:50,800 --> 06:58:52,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: quote unquote exploited 4722 06:58:52,800 --> 06:58:54,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by groomers rather than seen 4723 06:58:54,800 --> 06:58:56,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as independently valid 4724 06:58:56,800 --> 06:58:58,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: grievances. They are seen as 4725 06:58:58,800 --> 06:59:00,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: factors but not the basis 4726 06:59:00,800 --> 06:59:02,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for extremism and 4727 06:59:02,800 --> 06:59:04,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: psychologies are the primary cause 4728 06:59:04,800 --> 06:59:06,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of extremism. Mr. Speaker, 4729 06:59:06,800 --> 06:59:08,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, given that this 4730 06:59:08,800 --> 06:59:10,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: compilation names poverty, 4731 06:59:10,800 --> 06:59:12,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: historical injustice as unresolved 4732 06:59:12,800 --> 06:59:14,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: root causes for extremism, 4733 06:59:14,800 --> 06:59:16,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: why 4734 06:59:16,800 --> 06:59:18,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: do none of its recommendations 4735 06:59:18,800 --> 06:59:20,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: involve land reform, economic redistribution, 4736 06:59:20,800 --> 06:59:22,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: negotiated political 4737 06:59:22,800 --> 06:59:24,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: settlement, etc.? 4738 06:59:24,800 --> 06:59:26,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Why does this stop at merely 4739 06:59:26,800 --> 06:59:28,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: just recognition, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? 4740 06:59:50,800 --> 06:59:52,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, 4741 06:59:52,800 --> 06:59:54,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, 4742 06:59:54,800 --> 06:59:56,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the agency notes 4743 06:59:56,800 --> 06:59:58,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: those recommendations 4744 06:59:58,800 --> 07:00:00,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given also that 4745 07:00:00,000 --> 07:00:01,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is a shift in 4746 07:00:01,800 --> 07:00:03,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: how the NSC also looks at 4747 07:00:03,940 --> 07:00:05,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: national security, so 4748 07:00:05,280 --> 07:00:07,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: beyond the conventional 4749 07:00:07,560 --> 07:00:09,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: perspective of national security 4750 07:00:09,780 --> 07:00:10,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: towards human security. 4751 07:00:11,840 --> 07:00:14,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, economic security, 4752 07:00:14,300 --> 07:00:15,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: economic dignity, food security, 4753 07:00:15,920 --> 07:00:17,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: energy, water, and all of 4754 07:00:17,980 --> 07:00:19,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the basic needs. So, this is, this 4755 07:00:19,960 --> 07:00:21,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: should be part also 4756 07:00:21,960 --> 07:00:23,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the recommendations 4757 07:00:23,220 --> 07:00:26,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in subsequent reports 4758 07:00:26,100 --> 07:00:27,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: by the NSC. Mr. Speaker. 4759 07:00:28,280 --> 07:00:29,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, 4760 07:00:30,260 --> 07:00:31,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the policy recommendations 4761 07:00:31,580 --> 07:00:33,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of this compilation, 4762 07:00:34,500 --> 07:00:35,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: they lay it out in an acronym 4763 07:00:35,840 --> 07:00:38,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: called DECAL, and it 4764 07:00:38,140 --> 07:00:39,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: very much 4765 07:00:39,880 --> 07:00:41,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: focuses instead of, one, 4766 07:00:42,200 --> 07:00:43,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: detecting these terror groomers 4767 07:00:43,880 --> 07:00:45,460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: online and offline, 4768 07:00:46,180 --> 07:00:47,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: two, exposing them through a 4769 07:00:47,840 --> 07:00:50,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terror groomer national registry 4770 07:00:50,020 --> 07:00:51,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and forward them to major 4771 07:00:51,780 --> 07:00:53,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: institutions like schools, 4772 07:00:53,800 --> 07:00:55,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: three, control the incidences of 4773 07:00:55,920 --> 07:00:58,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terror grooming by allowing our law enforcement 4774 07:00:58,000 --> 07:00:59,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to patrol online platforms 4775 07:01:00,000 --> 07:01:01,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and deploy digital forensics, 4776 07:01:01,980 --> 07:01:03,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which, by the way, Mr. Speaker, is a 4777 07:01:03,780 --> 07:01:05,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: violation of the right to privacy. 4778 07:01:06,940 --> 07:01:08,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Four, arrest 4779 07:01:08,080 --> 07:01:09,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and prosecute terror groomers 4780 07:01:09,700 --> 07:01:12,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: using the anti-terrorism 4781 07:01:12,020 --> 07:01:14,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: law, which, up until now, we have 4782 07:01:14,140 --> 07:01:15,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a continuing critique 4783 07:01:15,600 --> 07:01:17,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of being unconstitutional and 4784 07:01:17,560 --> 07:01:20,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: vague and overbroad, and number five, 4785 07:01:20,480 --> 07:01:21,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: legislate new measures to 4786 07:01:21,960 --> 07:01:24,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: regulate radical and extremist 4787 07:01:24,000 --> 07:01:25,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: consent. We note, 4788 07:01:25,920 --> 07:01:27,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we know, the 4789 07:01:27,740 --> 07:01:29,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor, 4790 07:01:29,360 --> 07:01:29,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or, 4791 07:01:30,000 --> 07:01:31,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to understand, 4792 07:01:31,860 --> 07:01:33,460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at the end of the day, 4793 07:01:33,860 --> 07:01:35,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when we talk about human security, 4794 07:01:35,740 --> 07:01:37,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that is also ensuring economic 4795 07:01:37,720 --> 07:01:39,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: security, social security, etc. But, 4796 07:01:39,560 --> 07:01:41,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: unfortunately, the 4797 07:01:41,180 --> 07:01:43,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: agency which is being defended 4798 07:01:43,560 --> 07:01:45,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on the floor by the sponsor 4799 07:01:45,720 --> 07:01:47,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does not forward 4800 07:01:47,600 --> 07:01:49,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: any recommendations to 4801 07:01:49,580 --> 07:01:51,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that direction. Mr. Speaker, 4802 07:01:51,700 --> 07:01:53,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, final questions. 4803 07:01:54,920 --> 07:01:55,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May we ask 4804 07:01:55,620 --> 07:01:57,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: if the NSC believes that a college 4805 07:01:57,800 --> 07:01:59,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: aged student is capable 4806 07:01:59,780 --> 07:02:00,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of their own choices? 4807 07:02:01,560 --> 07:02:03,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How about a farmer, a worker, 4808 07:02:04,040 --> 07:02:05,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a unionist, a teacher, 4809 07:02:06,180 --> 07:02:07,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: an indigenous Filipino, 4810 07:02:07,380 --> 07:02:09,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a practicing Muslim? Do these 4811 07:02:09,600 --> 07:02:11,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: individuals 4812 07:02:12,220 --> 07:02:13,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: exhibit 4813 07:02:13,840 --> 07:02:15,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: capability of their own choices, 4814 07:02:15,680 --> 07:02:16,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? 4815 07:02:23,620 --> 07:02:27,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 4816 07:02:28,960 --> 07:02:29,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: their 4817 07:02:29,320 --> 07:02:30,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: these individuals 4818 07:02:30,820 --> 07:02:33,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the sectors they belong to 4819 07:02:33,200 --> 07:02:34,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are amongst the list of 4820 07:02:34,920 --> 07:02:36,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: quote-unquote vulnerable sectors the journal 4821 07:02:36,960 --> 07:02:38,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tries to say that are being groomed into 4822 07:02:38,940 --> 07:02:41,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: radicalization. Sabi pa nga po 4823 07:02:41,080 --> 07:02:43,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dito na ginagamit ng mga terror groomers 4824 07:02:43,400 --> 07:02:45,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang mga kahirapan na 4825 07:02:45,180 --> 07:02:46,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hinaharap nila, mga political, 4826 07:02:47,140 --> 07:02:48,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: economic, social issues, para 4827 07:02:48,800 --> 07:02:51,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: quote-unquote, i-groom sila. 4828 07:02:51,380 --> 07:02:52,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 4829 07:02:53,340 --> 07:02:55,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as my time is up, 4830 07:02:55,440 --> 07:02:56,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd like again to 4831 07:02:56,860 --> 07:02:58,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: request the information, 4832 07:02:58,720 --> 07:03:00,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: provided, but 4833 07:03:00,560 --> 07:03:02,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we are highly critical of 4834 07:03:02,840 --> 07:03:04,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this publication purporting itself 4835 07:03:04,760 --> 07:03:06,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to be a journal but did not undergo 4836 07:03:06,820 --> 07:03:08,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the necessary 4837 07:03:08,480 --> 07:03:10,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: scholarly academic rigor 4838 07:03:10,380 --> 07:03:12,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to really advance 4839 07:03:12,380 --> 07:03:14,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: scientific discussion and be 4840 07:03:14,820 --> 07:03:16,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: part of the policy debate 4841 07:03:16,080 --> 07:03:18,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and more insidiously 4842 07:03:18,620 --> 07:03:20,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is painting 4843 07:03:20,100 --> 07:03:22,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: political activities, political 4844 07:03:22,640 --> 07:03:24,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: engagement to be 4845 07:03:24,520 --> 07:03:26,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pathways for quote-unquote 4846 07:03:26,880 --> 07:03:28,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terror grooming. That has no 4847 07:03:28,660 --> 07:03:30,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: place in a policy debate, Mr. Speaker, 4848 07:03:30,460 --> 07:03:32,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor. Thank you for answering the questions 4849 07:03:32,480 --> 07:03:34,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to the good sponsor. I yield my time 4850 07:03:34,620 --> 07:03:35,398 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to the floor. 4851 07:03:35,398 --> 07:03:37,478 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Thank you, Honorable 4852 07:03:37,478 --> 07:03:39,700 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Majority Leader. 4853 07:03:40,320 --> 07:03:40,880 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, 4854 07:03:41,140 --> 07:03:42,700 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: I move that we recognize 4855 07:03:42,700 --> 07:03:44,680 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: the Honorable Representative 4856 07:03:44,680 --> 07:03:46,820 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Antonio Tinio of 4857 07:03:46,820 --> 07:03:48,920 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: ACT Teachers Party List to interpolate 4858 07:03:48,920 --> 07:03:50,620 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: on the proposed budget of the National 4859 07:03:50,620 --> 07:03:51,920 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Security Council. 4860 07:03:51,920 --> 07:03:53,960 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Honorable Antonio Tinio is recognized. 4861 07:03:53,960 --> 07:03:54,880 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Please proceed. 4862 07:03:58,660 --> 07:04:00,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 4863 07:04:01,780 --> 07:04:02,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Speaker, 4864 07:04:04,120 --> 07:04:05,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga tanong ko po 4865 07:04:05,240 --> 07:04:06,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay mas may kinalaman 4866 07:04:06,940 --> 07:04:07,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa 4867 07:04:07,360 --> 07:04:10,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: national security 4868 07:04:10,800 --> 07:04:11,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: policy. 4869 07:04:11,620 --> 07:04:13,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, 4870 07:04:14,540 --> 07:04:15,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang NSE, 4871 07:04:15,640 --> 07:04:16,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang lead 4872 07:04:16,880 --> 07:04:19,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: agency or opisina 4873 07:04:19,400 --> 07:04:22,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na responsable 4874 07:04:22,040 --> 07:04:23,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa pag-formulate ng umiiral 4875 07:04:23,680 --> 07:04:25,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: national security policy ng bansa. 4876 07:04:26,760 --> 07:04:28,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, meron po silang nilabas. 4877 07:04:28,660 --> 07:04:33,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito po, buti na lang. 4878 07:04:34,000 --> 07:04:34,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Binigyan po ako kanina. 4879 07:04:35,340 --> 07:04:35,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Salamat po 4880 07:04:35,960 --> 07:04:37,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng hard copy. 4881 07:04:39,080 --> 07:04:40,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung pwede rin po makahingi ng e-copy 4882 07:04:40,980 --> 07:04:42,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para mas madali i-circulate. 4883 07:04:43,680 --> 07:04:44,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National 4884 07:04:44,320 --> 07:04:47,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: security policy 4885 07:04:47,100 --> 07:04:50,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2023-2028. 4886 07:04:51,780 --> 07:04:53,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And the accompanying 4887 07:04:53,020 --> 07:04:54,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National Security Strategy 4888 07:04:54,700 --> 07:04:55,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: document. 4889 07:04:57,980 --> 07:04:58,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, 4890 07:04:58,660 --> 07:04:59,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maraming pwedeng itanong dito. 4891 07:05:00,920 --> 07:05:02,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, given the limited 4892 07:05:02,580 --> 07:05:04,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: time, actually, I will just focus 4893 07:05:04,580 --> 07:05:06,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the 4894 07:05:06,500 --> 07:05:08,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: discussion on 4895 07:05:08,180 --> 07:05:10,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the strategic environment. 4896 07:05:10,680 --> 07:05:12,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In particular, 4897 07:05:13,700 --> 07:05:16,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of course, 4898 07:05:16,440 --> 07:05:18,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dati nang kasama 4899 07:05:18,600 --> 07:05:19,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa discussion 4900 07:05:19,440 --> 07:05:22,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng pag-usapin ng 4901 07:05:22,500 --> 07:05:23,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: external security 4902 07:05:23,560 --> 07:05:25,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in West Philippine Sea issue. 4903 07:05:26,120 --> 07:05:27,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that is quite familiar. 4904 07:05:28,660 --> 07:05:32,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam natin yung issue 4905 07:05:32,640 --> 07:05:35,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng West Philippine Sea 4906 07:05:35,700 --> 07:05:38,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ruling, 4907 07:05:38,940 --> 07:05:39,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the arbitral ruling, 4908 07:05:40,220 --> 07:05:42,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: won by the Philippines 4909 07:05:42,500 --> 07:05:44,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the 4910 07:05:44,280 --> 07:05:46,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: baseless and illegal claim 4911 07:05:46,900 --> 07:05:49,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of China 4912 07:05:49,180 --> 07:05:50,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that they have sovereignty 4913 07:05:50,540 --> 07:05:51,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: over 4914 07:05:51,800 --> 07:05:54,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: almost 4915 07:05:54,800 --> 07:05:56,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: very significant portions 4916 07:05:56,660 --> 07:05:58,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of our 4917 07:05:58,500 --> 07:06:00,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: exclusive economic zones. 4918 07:06:00,080 --> 07:06:01,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, alam na natin yun. 4919 07:06:02,220 --> 07:06:02,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, 4920 07:06:03,440 --> 07:06:06,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the National Security Policy, 4921 07:06:07,960 --> 07:06:08,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it says here, 4922 07:06:08,980 --> 07:06:10,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the West Philippine Sea issue 4923 07:06:10,200 --> 07:06:12,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: remains a primary national interest 4924 07:06:12,620 --> 07:06:13,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Philippines. 4925 07:06:13,960 --> 07:06:15,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, malinaw naman po yun. 4926 07:06:15,700 --> 07:06:16,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, 4927 07:06:16,920 --> 07:06:19,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang isang relatively bago po 4928 07:06:19,280 --> 07:06:22,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na sinama na 4929 07:06:22,560 --> 07:06:24,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the National Security Strategy, 4930 07:06:24,940 --> 07:06:26,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this is on page 14 4931 07:06:26,160 --> 07:06:27,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for reference of the 4932 07:06:27,820 --> 07:06:29,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sponsor. 4933 07:06:30,480 --> 07:06:31,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sinabi po rito, 4934 07:06:31,720 --> 07:06:33,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: major concern 4935 07:06:33,020 --> 07:06:34,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is also seen 4936 07:06:34,200 --> 07:06:36,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the cross-straits relations 4937 07:06:36,840 --> 07:06:39,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that has the potential 4938 07:06:39,240 --> 07:06:40,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to be the flashpoint 4939 07:06:40,460 --> 07:06:41,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the region. 4940 07:06:43,060 --> 07:06:44,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, the Philippines 4941 07:06:44,480 --> 07:06:45,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is concerned about 4942 07:06:45,760 --> 07:06:47,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: its economic stability, 4943 07:06:48,500 --> 07:06:49,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a potential influx 4944 07:06:49,700 --> 07:06:51,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of refugees, 4945 07:06:52,000 --> 07:06:52,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the welfare 4946 07:06:52,760 --> 07:06:54,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of overseas populations. 4947 07:06:56,160 --> 07:06:57,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Any military conflict 4948 07:06:57,360 --> 07:06:58,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the Taiwan Strait 4949 07:06:58,520 --> 07:06:59,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: would inevitably affect 4950 07:06:59,740 --> 07:07:00,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Philippines. 4951 07:07:01,460 --> 07:07:02,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Given the geographic 4952 07:07:02,680 --> 07:07:04,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proximity of Taiwan 4953 07:07:04,200 --> 07:07:05,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to the Philippine Archipelago 4954 07:07:05,800 --> 07:07:07,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the presence 4955 07:07:07,140 --> 07:07:09,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of over 150,000 4956 07:07:09,320 --> 07:07:10,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Filipinos 4957 07:07:10,580 --> 07:07:11,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in Taiwan. 4958 07:07:13,140 --> 07:07:13,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 4959 07:07:15,620 --> 07:07:16,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon po, 4960 07:07:16,160 --> 07:07:17,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasasama na rin po 4961 07:07:17,340 --> 07:07:20,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa National Security Policy 4962 07:07:20,160 --> 07:07:21,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung consideration 4963 07:07:21,720 --> 07:07:22,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng 4964 07:07:22,360 --> 07:07:24,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tawag dito 4965 07:07:24,040 --> 07:07:26,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cross-straits relations 4966 07:07:26,480 --> 07:07:27,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang tinutukoy po. 4967 07:07:27,360 --> 07:07:27,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung 4968 07:07:27,920 --> 07:07:30,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Taiwan. 4969 07:07:30,960 --> 07:07:32,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And of course, 4970 07:07:32,200 --> 07:07:33,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the One China Policy 4971 07:07:33,660 --> 07:07:35,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: where China 4972 07:07:35,860 --> 07:07:39,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: asserts that 4973 07:07:39,980 --> 07:07:42,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Taiwan is a 4974 07:07:42,400 --> 07:07:43,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: province of China. 4975 07:07:44,340 --> 07:07:44,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 4976 07:07:45,540 --> 07:07:45,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, 4977 07:07:46,400 --> 07:07:46,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: officially, 4978 07:07:47,380 --> 07:07:48,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this is 4979 07:07:48,060 --> 07:07:50,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a policy that is also 4980 07:07:50,300 --> 07:07:51,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: recognized by the Philippines. 4981 07:07:52,720 --> 07:07:53,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun yun, diba? 4982 07:07:53,980 --> 07:07:54,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4983 07:07:55,340 --> 07:07:56,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, dito sinabi na rito, 4984 07:07:57,360 --> 07:07:59,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: any military conflict 4985 07:07:59,160 --> 07:08:00,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the Taiwan Strait 4986 07:08:00,800 --> 07:08:02,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: would inevitably affect 4987 07:08:02,280 --> 07:08:02,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Philippines. 4988 07:08:03,740 --> 07:08:05,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung pagkakasabi po 4989 07:08:05,320 --> 07:08:07,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng would inevitably 4990 07:08:07,020 --> 07:08:08,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: affect the Philippines. 4991 07:08:09,760 --> 07:08:11,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede po bang mag-elaborate 4992 07:08:11,740 --> 07:08:13,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang National Security Council 4993 07:08:13,340 --> 07:08:14,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito sa 4994 07:08:14,540 --> 07:08:16,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inevitability? 4995 07:08:17,220 --> 07:08:17,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi, 4996 07:08:18,640 --> 07:08:19,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Pangulo po, 4997 07:08:20,060 --> 07:08:20,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: presumably, 4998 07:08:20,760 --> 07:08:21,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: batay sa input 4999 07:08:21,700 --> 07:08:23,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng National Security Council 5000 07:08:23,180 --> 07:08:24,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on numerous occasions, 5001 07:08:24,860 --> 07:08:26,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: has stated na, 5002 07:08:26,600 --> 07:08:28,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ayaw natin, 5003 07:08:28,100 --> 07:08:29,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa gusto natin, 5004 07:08:30,240 --> 07:08:31,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: madadamay tayo 5005 07:08:32,360 --> 07:08:33,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa gera 5006 07:08:33,420 --> 07:08:35,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag nagkaroon ng gera 5007 07:08:35,820 --> 07:08:37,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa pagitan ng US 5008 07:08:37,980 --> 07:08:39,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at China 5009 07:08:39,140 --> 07:08:40,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaugnay sa Taiwan. 5010 07:08:42,080 --> 07:08:43,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, I'm assuming 5011 07:08:43,060 --> 07:08:46,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: those statements of the President 5012 07:08:46,480 --> 07:08:48,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: are based on this 5013 07:08:48,580 --> 07:08:50,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: input by the 5014 07:08:50,180 --> 07:08:51,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National Security Council. 5015 07:08:53,080 --> 07:08:55,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ilang beses niya na sinabi yan na 5016 07:08:56,600 --> 07:08:58,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: parang no choice, 5017 07:08:59,080 --> 07:08:59,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inevitably, 5018 07:09:00,700 --> 07:09:01,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: we will be involved 5019 07:09:01,760 --> 07:09:04,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in a conflict 5020 07:09:04,600 --> 07:09:06,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with Taiwan. 5021 07:09:07,220 --> 07:09:08,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang kinikwestiyon po natin, 5022 07:09:08,860 --> 07:09:10,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung idea ng 5023 07:09:10,440 --> 07:09:11,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inevitability. 5024 07:09:12,220 --> 07:09:13,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is it really inevitable? 5025 07:09:13,680 --> 07:09:14,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit po nasabi ng 5026 07:09:14,800 --> 07:09:17,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National Security Council 5027 07:09:17,040 --> 07:09:18,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na inevitable ito? 5028 07:09:19,820 --> 07:09:21,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That we would be inevitably 5029 07:09:21,700 --> 07:09:23,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: drawn into this conflict? 5030 07:09:25,480 --> 07:09:26,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 5031 07:09:26,600 --> 07:09:27,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, 5032 07:09:27,360 --> 07:09:28,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given that Taiwan 5033 07:09:28,820 --> 07:09:30,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is a hundred kilometers away 5034 07:09:30,920 --> 07:09:32,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: from Philippine territory, 5035 07:09:33,300 --> 07:09:35,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: really the NSC is gauging 5036 07:09:35,580 --> 07:09:37,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the risks regarding 5037 07:09:37,420 --> 07:09:39,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the proximity in terms of 5038 07:09:39,280 --> 07:09:40,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the spillover effects. 5039 07:09:40,840 --> 07:09:41,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, not so much 5040 07:09:41,740 --> 07:09:44,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: more of the 5041 07:09:44,140 --> 07:09:47,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: evacuation of OFWs 5042 07:09:47,820 --> 07:09:49,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and the potential evacuation 5043 07:09:49,120 --> 07:09:51,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of different nationalities. 5044 07:09:51,780 --> 07:09:52,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, 5045 07:09:52,740 --> 07:09:54,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: so that is the basis 5046 07:09:54,420 --> 07:09:56,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for the statement. 5047 07:09:56,600 --> 07:09:57,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: By the NSC and the 5048 07:09:57,680 --> 07:09:59,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: National Strategic Plan. 5049 07:10:00,380 --> 07:10:02,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, ang ibig niyo po sabihin nun, 5050 07:10:02,400 --> 07:10:03,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mainly, it's 5051 07:10:03,700 --> 07:10:06,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inevitable in the sense, 5052 07:10:07,880 --> 07:10:08,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well, inevitably 5053 07:10:08,720 --> 07:10:09,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: affect the Philippines, 5054 07:10:09,860 --> 07:10:12,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: would inevitably affect the Philippines 5055 07:10:12,280 --> 07:10:14,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: given the 5056 07:10:14,680 --> 07:10:16,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: geographic proximity and 5057 07:10:16,620 --> 07:10:19,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the OFWs in Taiwan. 5058 07:10:20,060 --> 07:10:20,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang ganon. 5059 07:10:20,760 --> 07:10:22,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun ang ibig sabihin dun. 5060 07:10:23,220 --> 07:10:23,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, 5061 07:10:24,280 --> 07:10:26,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: does the NSC also 5062 07:10:26,600 --> 07:10:27,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: see that 5063 07:10:27,900 --> 07:10:30,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or is it part of the 5064 07:10:30,820 --> 07:10:31,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: analysis that 5065 07:10:31,920 --> 07:10:34,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Philippines would 5066 07:10:34,020 --> 07:10:36,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: be involved in the 5067 07:10:36,880 --> 07:10:38,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: conflict as 5068 07:10:38,720 --> 07:10:41,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in effect, 5069 07:10:41,340 --> 07:10:42,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a belligerent? 5070 07:10:43,080 --> 07:10:43,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon. 5071 07:10:44,020 --> 07:10:45,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na ma-involve tayo sa gera. 5072 07:10:48,060 --> 07:10:48,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron bang ganong 5073 07:10:48,780 --> 07:10:50,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: assessment ang NSC? 5074 07:10:56,600 --> 07:10:58,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. Mr. Speaker, 5075 07:10:58,680 --> 07:11:00,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: more so the assessment of the NSC 5076 07:11:00,700 --> 07:11:02,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is more of the risk on the evacuation 5077 07:11:02,860 --> 07:11:05,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the OFWs, 5078 07:11:05,920 --> 07:11:07,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the different nationals 5079 07:11:07,240 --> 07:11:09,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to also 5080 07:11:09,280 --> 07:11:10,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: our humanitarian efforts 5081 07:11:10,580 --> 07:11:11,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: here in the Philippines. 5082 07:11:12,440 --> 07:11:14,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, not so much yung kung 5083 07:11:14,340 --> 07:11:17,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ma-involve tayo as a party at war. 5084 07:11:18,200 --> 07:11:18,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang ganon. 5085 07:11:19,000 --> 07:11:20,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Involved in arms conflict. 5086 07:11:21,460 --> 07:11:22,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Not so much, Mr. Speaker. 5087 07:11:22,480 --> 07:11:24,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Now, 5088 07:11:24,600 --> 07:11:25,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si Pangulong Marcos, 5089 07:11:26,600 --> 07:11:28,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and presumably ang mga 5090 07:11:28,460 --> 07:11:30,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: statement niya may input ng 5091 07:11:30,320 --> 07:11:32,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NSC on this 5092 07:11:32,460 --> 07:11:34,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: matter, and of course 5093 07:11:34,700 --> 07:11:36,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the President is 5094 07:11:36,700 --> 07:11:38,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Chief Architect 5095 07:11:38,320 --> 07:11:39,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of Foreign Policy, di ba? 5096 07:11:40,500 --> 07:11:41,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Siya ang nagtatakda niyan. 5097 07:11:42,560 --> 07:11:44,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In a recent interview 5098 07:11:44,820 --> 07:11:47,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with 5099 07:11:47,020 --> 07:11:48,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: FOCAP, with the 5100 07:11:48,620 --> 07:11:50,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Foreign Correspondents 5101 07:11:50,540 --> 07:11:52,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Association of the Philippines, 5102 07:11:53,000 --> 07:11:54,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: August ito. 5103 07:11:54,160 --> 07:11:55,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung last August, 5104 07:11:56,600 --> 07:11:58,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: he made some statement, 5105 07:11:58,660 --> 07:12:00,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the following statements, no? 5106 07:12:01,360 --> 07:12:02,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That the Philippines 5107 07:12:02,840 --> 07:12:05,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: will not allow 5108 07:12:05,060 --> 07:12:06,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: other countries to use 5109 07:12:06,620 --> 07:12:08,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: its bases in the event of a war 5110 07:12:08,820 --> 07:12:10,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: between China and Taiwan. 5111 07:12:11,560 --> 07:12:11,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Quote, 5112 07:12:12,300 --> 07:12:14,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Philippines has no desire to be a 5113 07:12:14,320 --> 07:12:16,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: belligerent nation in the region. 5114 07:12:17,180 --> 07:12:17,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? 5115 07:12:20,040 --> 07:12:20,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, 5116 07:12:20,760 --> 07:12:21,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to quote further, 5117 07:12:23,520 --> 07:12:23,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no, 5118 07:12:24,480 --> 07:12:26,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there will be no attacks on 5119 07:12:26,560 --> 07:12:28,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: anyone from the Philippines. 5120 07:12:29,020 --> 07:12:30,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We have no interest in that. 5121 07:12:31,800 --> 07:12:32,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unquote. 5122 07:12:35,060 --> 07:12:36,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: All we are concerned 5123 07:12:36,800 --> 07:12:38,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: about is the defense of our territory 5124 07:12:38,660 --> 07:12:40,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the maintenance of peace and stability 5125 07:12:40,540 --> 07:12:41,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the region. 5126 07:12:42,400 --> 07:12:44,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That is all that the 5127 07:12:44,780 --> 07:12:46,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Philippines is concerned with. That is 5128 07:12:46,720 --> 07:12:48,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: all the Philippines will promote. That is 5129 07:12:48,820 --> 07:12:50,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: all that the Philippines will endorse 5130 07:12:50,660 --> 07:12:52,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and support. 5131 07:12:53,040 --> 07:12:55,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ayun po. Medyo malinaw po 5132 07:12:55,020 --> 07:12:56,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga pahayag. 5133 07:12:56,560 --> 07:12:58,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na, no attacks 5134 07:12:58,600 --> 07:13:00,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from the Philippines. 5135 07:13:01,220 --> 07:13:02,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The Philippines will not 5136 07:13:02,740 --> 07:13:05,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: allow any attacks from anyone in the Philippines. 5137 07:13:05,520 --> 07:13:06,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, ang context nito, 5138 07:13:07,600 --> 07:13:08,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahit nung tinanong, is 5139 07:13:08,900 --> 07:13:10,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the mutual 5140 07:13:10,300 --> 07:13:12,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: defense treaty with the US. 5141 07:13:13,060 --> 07:13:14,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, paano kung na-involve ang 5142 07:13:14,880 --> 07:13:16,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: US sa gera 5143 07:13:16,780 --> 07:13:18,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: laban sa China over Taiwan? 5144 07:13:18,760 --> 07:13:20,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bagay na pinag-ahandaan 5145 07:13:20,600 --> 07:13:22,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng US. 5146 07:13:22,900 --> 07:13:22,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5147 07:13:24,860 --> 07:13:26,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As far as, 5148 07:13:26,560 --> 07:13:27,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the US 5149 07:13:27,660 --> 07:13:30,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: defense policy 5150 07:13:30,820 --> 07:13:31,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is concerned, 5151 07:13:32,700 --> 07:13:34,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron silang tinatawag na Davidson 5152 07:13:34,380 --> 07:13:35,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: window after some 5153 07:13:35,980 --> 07:13:37,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: general 5154 07:13:37,880 --> 07:13:40,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: who claimed 5155 07:13:40,880 --> 07:13:42,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that 5156 07:13:42,580 --> 07:13:45,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027 5157 07:13:45,060 --> 07:13:46,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is the target date 5158 07:13:46,600 --> 07:13:48,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of China 5159 07:13:48,320 --> 07:13:50,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: based on Xi Jinping 5160 07:13:50,700 --> 07:13:52,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pronouncement 5161 07:13:52,260 --> 07:13:54,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to be ready for an 5162 07:13:54,860 --> 07:13:56,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: invasion of Taiwan. 5163 07:13:56,560 --> 07:13:58,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For the forcible 5164 07:13:58,140 --> 07:13:59,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: integration of Taiwan 5165 07:13:59,640 --> 07:14:02,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or unification of Taiwan 5166 07:14:02,000 --> 07:14:04,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with China. So, meron silang 5167 07:14:04,200 --> 07:14:05,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nominal, 5168 07:14:06,380 --> 07:14:07,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at least as far as the US 5169 07:14:07,880 --> 07:14:09,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: defense establishment is concerned, 5170 07:14:11,020 --> 07:14:12,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun ang framework nila na 5171 07:14:12,180 --> 07:14:13,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027, 5172 07:14:13,720 --> 07:14:15,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: China will be prepared 5173 07:14:15,960 --> 07:14:18,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and may actually 5174 07:14:18,220 --> 07:14:22,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: launch an actual 5175 07:14:22,700 --> 07:14:24,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: invasion of 5176 07:14:24,420 --> 07:14:25,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: China. Meron ganon. 5177 07:14:25,760 --> 07:14:26,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5178 07:14:26,560 --> 07:14:30,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in that event, ano mangyayari sa Pilipinas? 5179 07:14:30,160 --> 07:14:32,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sumasang ayon po ba? 5180 07:14:32,880 --> 07:14:34,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O tama po ba ang 5181 07:14:34,320 --> 07:14:35,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or 5182 07:14:35,020 --> 07:14:38,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: klaro po ang sinabi ng Pangulo? 5183 07:14:38,500 --> 07:14:39,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi, no 5184 07:14:39,220 --> 07:14:41,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no attacks. 5185 07:14:42,940 --> 07:14:44,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi pwedeng gamitin 5186 07:14:44,080 --> 07:14:44,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang 5187 07:14:44,720 --> 07:14:47,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pilipinas bilang lunsara 5188 07:14:47,980 --> 07:14:48,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng atake 5189 07:14:48,880 --> 07:14:50,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ibang bansa. 5190 07:14:51,620 --> 07:14:51,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5191 07:14:52,260 --> 07:14:53,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that confirmed by 5192 07:14:53,780 --> 07:14:56,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the analysis and standpoint? 5193 07:14:56,560 --> 07:14:58,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the National Security 5194 07:14:58,460 --> 07:14:59,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Council. Ganun nga po ba talaga? 5195 07:15:00,000 --> 07:15:04,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pagtingin natin na hindi maaaring gamitin ang Pilipinas. 5196 07:15:04,720 --> 07:15:11,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam natin maraming mga base na binukas ang Pilipinas sa U.S. under EDCA. 5197 07:15:11,920 --> 07:15:16,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Many of them are precisely in the northern Luzon. 5198 07:15:17,420 --> 07:15:20,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil nga ang interest ng U.S. ay Taiwan. 5199 07:15:21,280 --> 07:15:24,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So ang pinakamga bagong binuksan dyan, yung sa Lalo Airport, 5200 07:15:24,580 --> 07:15:32,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano pa ba, sa Isabela, meron din, diba? 5201 07:15:32,700 --> 07:15:33,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, yung Fort Magsaysay. 5202 07:15:34,760 --> 07:15:39,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These are currently, as well as non-EDCA sites, lalo na yung Batanes, 5203 07:15:40,840 --> 07:15:49,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung U.S. nag-invest para i-upgrade yung mga port facilities in Batanes, 5204 07:15:50,500 --> 07:15:54,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including the northernmost island. 5205 07:15:54,060 --> 07:15:55,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun yatang mabulis. 5206 07:15:56,080 --> 07:16:00,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So yung U.S. naghahanda dyan. 5207 07:16:01,740 --> 07:16:07,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung U.S. military, they regularly hold exercises with the Philippines. 5208 07:16:07,960 --> 07:16:14,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May mga nakabasis silang assets, including Air Force assets na nagpapatrolya. 5209 07:16:15,820 --> 07:16:21,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: From Lalo Airfield to the northern portions of Luzon, 5210 07:16:21,060 --> 07:16:23,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including over the Luzon Strait, 5211 07:16:24,060 --> 07:16:30,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: precisely in preparation for this so-called Taiwan conflict. 5212 07:16:31,740 --> 07:16:41,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ganun nga po ba ang pagtingin ng NSA na hindi maaaring gamitin 5213 07:16:41,920 --> 07:16:51,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga basing ito ng U.S. para gawing lunsara ng atake kontra sa China? 5214 07:16:51,200 --> 07:16:52,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 5215 07:16:52,480 --> 07:16:54,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that consistent with the pronouncement? 5216 07:16:54,040 --> 07:16:54,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that consistent with the pronouncement of the President? 5217 07:17:03,780 --> 07:17:06,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the agency agrees with our distinguished colleague. 5218 07:17:07,460 --> 07:17:07,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. 5219 07:17:08,420 --> 07:17:09,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, yun lang. Yun yung sagot. 5220 07:17:10,240 --> 07:17:11,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, then, question. 5221 07:17:12,640 --> 07:17:20,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isa po sa mga well-known and controversial deployments made by the U.S. 5222 07:17:20,500 --> 07:17:23,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under the Mutual Defense Treaty, 5223 07:17:23,560 --> 07:17:23,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: EDCA, 5224 07:17:24,240 --> 07:17:24,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on, 5225 07:17:25,780 --> 07:17:30,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is the deployment of the Typhoon missile system. 5226 07:17:31,560 --> 07:17:32,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, meron pong launcher. 5227 07:17:33,720 --> 07:17:34,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung Typhoon launcher. 5228 07:17:34,920 --> 07:17:35,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And in fact, 5229 07:17:36,220 --> 07:17:36,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: initially, 5230 07:17:38,120 --> 07:17:43,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it is well known that it was deployed 5231 07:17:43,420 --> 07:17:45,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at Balawag Airport. 5232 07:17:46,180 --> 07:17:47,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Itang kita po doon. 5233 07:17:47,740 --> 07:17:52,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nandun yung launcher. 5234 07:17:52,180 --> 07:17:53,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, may complex yan. 5235 07:17:53,940 --> 07:17:58,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Merong mga, mainly, it's a mobile launcher. 5236 07:17:58,620 --> 07:18:01,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May malaking track, may mahabang trailer. 5237 07:18:01,600 --> 07:18:03,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos nandun yung launcher. 5238 07:18:03,680 --> 07:18:16,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And it is also well known that the system is capable of launching the Tomahawk missile, 5239 07:18:16,040 --> 07:18:18,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which is an offensive weapon. 5240 07:18:18,920 --> 07:18:19,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5241 07:18:19,420 --> 07:18:24,478 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Precisely, it is, uh? 5242 07:18:26,280 --> 07:18:29,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We can call it a long-range weapon, something like 1,600 kilometers 5243 07:18:29,440 --> 07:18:33,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mula sa Northern Luzon, abot na abot sa, hindi lang sa Taiwan, 5244 07:18:33,240 --> 07:18:34,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung hindi kahit sa mainland China. 5245 07:18:36,180 --> 07:18:41,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hindi lang dineploy doon, nananatili pa rin nakadeploy ngayon, 5246 07:18:41,460 --> 07:18:45,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and just recently, a few months ago, there was a test firing 5247 07:18:45,660 --> 07:18:50,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Typhoon missile system from Tacloban Airport 5248 07:18:50,400 --> 07:18:56,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos yung target, the test target was in Fort Magsaysay in Nueva Ecija, 5249 07:18:57,020 --> 07:18:58,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: over 600 kilometers daw. 5250 07:18:59,680 --> 07:19:04,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so ano ibig sabihin nun? 5251 07:19:04,840 --> 07:19:12,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Does that not contradict the open pronouncements of the President himself 5252 07:19:12,340 --> 07:19:18,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the NSC now, na hindi pa hihintulutan ng Pilipinas na maging lunsaran, 5253 07:19:18,960 --> 07:19:28,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh meron nga offensive missile system ang mga Amerikano dito 5254 07:19:28,620 --> 07:19:30,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at hindi lang yun, tinesting pa nila. 5255 07:19:32,460 --> 07:19:37,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At malinaw naman, gagamitin yun, hindi sa loob ng Pilipinas. 5256 07:19:37,860 --> 07:19:41,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung hindi gagamitin yun, for offensive purposes, 5257 07:19:42,460 --> 07:19:48,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: against, in the end, it will be against China in the Taiwan conflict. 5258 07:19:48,100 --> 07:19:48,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, paano po yun? 5259 07:19:48,840 --> 07:19:48,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paano po yun? 5260 07:19:48,940 --> 07:19:49,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: How do we reconcile? 5261 07:19:50,680 --> 07:19:55,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi ng Pangulo, no offensive weapons, no attacks from the Philippines, 5262 07:19:55,400 --> 07:20:01,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and yet, nag-host ng offensive missile system, 5263 07:20:02,920 --> 07:20:06,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with such capability, the Typhoon missile system, ang US. 5264 07:20:06,740 --> 07:20:09,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano pong paliwanag ng NSC dito? 5265 07:20:10,480 --> 07:20:15,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker, the stance of the NSC is that 5266 07:20:15,640 --> 07:20:18,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: these exercises actually are exercise of, 5267 07:20:18,940 --> 07:20:20,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of Philippine sovereignty. 5268 07:20:21,040 --> 07:20:23,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With, particularly, with this launcher, 5269 07:20:24,280 --> 07:20:27,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this is an assessment of the capabilities, 5270 07:20:28,900 --> 07:20:32,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: also of the Philippines, with regards to its defense posture. 5271 07:20:33,280 --> 07:20:40,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, it's not in itself an offensive exercise. 5272 07:20:41,320 --> 07:20:46,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's really just to measure and assess the capabilities of the Philippines 5273 07:20:46,060 --> 07:20:48,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to defending its territory, Mr. Speaker. 5274 07:20:48,940 --> 07:20:51,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, thank you for that. 5275 07:20:51,740 --> 07:20:53,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, I just wanted to point out here, 5276 07:20:53,920 --> 07:20:58,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there seems to be a contradiction between the public pronouncements 5277 07:20:58,840 --> 07:21:01,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the President himself, no less than the President. 5278 07:21:01,860 --> 07:21:05,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sinasabi niya sa local and international audiences 5279 07:21:05,100 --> 07:21:10,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na hindi niya papaintulutan na gamitin ang teritoryo ng Pilipinas 5280 07:21:10,240 --> 07:21:15,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para gawing lunsaran ng atake, lalo na ng US, 5281 07:21:15,840 --> 07:21:18,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil ayaw natin maging party sa conflict. 5282 07:21:18,920 --> 07:21:25,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: On the other hand, patuloy naman ang pag-host 5283 07:21:25,300 --> 07:21:31,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng, ayun na nga, those very offensive weapon systems 5284 07:21:31,540 --> 07:21:34,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that only have one use. 5285 07:21:35,180 --> 07:21:38,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The only purpose of the US for that is to attack, obviously. 5286 07:21:41,180 --> 07:21:48,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It's an adversary in whatever conflict, diba? 5287 07:21:48,920 --> 07:21:50,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun po, pinopoint out natin. 5288 07:21:51,440 --> 07:21:56,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Either pagkakatiwalaan natin ang sinabi ng Pangulo 5289 07:21:56,900 --> 07:22:02,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o hindi buong katapatan ang naririnig natin 5290 07:22:02,400 --> 07:22:03,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaugnay sa patakarang ito. 5291 07:22:03,840 --> 07:22:04,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pong kontradiksyon. 5292 07:22:05,360 --> 07:22:06,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ang pinopoint out natin. 5293 07:22:07,260 --> 07:22:08,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, needless to say, 5294 07:22:09,740 --> 07:22:14,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang punto rito, kung totoo ang sinasabi ng Pangulo 5295 07:22:14,320 --> 07:22:16,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at ang patakaran ng NSC, 5296 07:22:16,920 --> 07:22:18,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay dapat i-withdrawal. 5297 07:22:18,920 --> 07:22:23,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I-withdraw yung typhoon missile system na yan. 5298 07:22:24,500 --> 07:22:24,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 5299 07:22:25,260 --> 07:22:25,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Then, malinaw, 5300 07:22:26,880 --> 07:22:33,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: walang offensive intent 5301 07:22:33,280 --> 07:22:39,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na pinahihintulutan ang Pilipinas 5302 07:22:39,220 --> 07:22:41,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as an exercise of its sovereignty 5303 07:22:41,520 --> 07:22:44,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and in accordance with the public pronouncement of the President. 5304 07:22:45,160 --> 07:22:46,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let me move on. 5305 07:22:46,640 --> 07:22:48,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam natin, limited ang oras. 5306 07:22:48,920 --> 07:22:52,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May tanong naman tayo kaugnay sa National Action Plan 5307 07:22:52,180 --> 07:22:56,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for Unity, Peace, and Development. 5308 07:22:57,120 --> 07:22:59,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung tinatawag na NAP-UPD. 5309 07:23:00,340 --> 07:23:00,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5310 07:23:04,480 --> 07:23:10,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This has more to do with internal security. 5311 07:23:10,540 --> 07:23:12,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung yung isa, pinag-usapan natin, external. 5312 07:23:13,040 --> 07:23:13,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito, internal. 5313 07:23:15,500 --> 07:23:18,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At alam natin, ang lead agency na nagpapatupad, 5314 07:23:18,920 --> 07:23:22,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng tinatawag na NAP-UPD is the NTFL-CAC. 5315 07:23:23,940 --> 07:23:27,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We also know that the vice chair of the NTFL-CAC 5316 07:23:27,820 --> 07:23:29,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is the National Security Council. 5317 07:23:29,640 --> 07:23:30,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya dito po natin tinatanong. 5318 07:23:31,680 --> 07:23:31,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5319 07:23:32,860 --> 07:23:33,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, 5320 07:23:34,900 --> 07:23:36,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang isang tanong ko lang po, muna, 5321 07:23:37,180 --> 07:23:39,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay tungkol sa legislative agenda. 5322 07:23:39,480 --> 07:23:40,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As found in the document, 5323 07:23:41,940 --> 07:23:44,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the NAP-UPD document, 5324 07:23:44,060 --> 07:23:48,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on page 41 of the said document, 5325 07:23:48,920 --> 07:23:51,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakalagay po dito, 5326 07:23:52,300 --> 07:23:55,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as part of the legislative and policy agenda, 5327 07:23:56,700 --> 07:23:57,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it says here, 5328 07:23:57,440 --> 07:24:01,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the NTFL-CAC shall advocate the passage of laws 5329 07:24:01,480 --> 07:24:03,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and related policies on the following. 5330 07:24:04,220 --> 07:24:07,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There's one, institutionalizing the whole-of-nation approach, 5331 07:24:07,520 --> 07:24:08,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then there's number two, 5332 07:24:09,280 --> 07:24:12,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: increasing the role and responsibilities of LGUs 5333 07:24:12,260 --> 07:24:14,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the Philippine National Police 5334 07:24:14,440 --> 07:24:16,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in addressing internal security, 5335 07:24:17,780 --> 07:24:19,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particularly through 5336 07:24:19,840 --> 07:24:21,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: amendment of Republic Act 8551 5337 07:24:21,600 --> 07:24:25,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to transfer the lead role and responsibilities 5338 07:24:25,080 --> 07:24:28,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in internal security operations to PNP 5339 07:24:28,120 --> 07:24:31,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with the support of the AFP. 5340 07:24:31,680 --> 07:24:33,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, apparently, yun ang dalawang, 5341 07:24:33,620 --> 07:24:35,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dalawa lang yung legislative agenda 5342 07:24:35,480 --> 07:24:39,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under this National Action Plan 5343 07:24:39,400 --> 07:24:43,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for Unity, Peace, and Development 2025 to 2028. 5344 07:24:43,140 --> 07:24:45,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, it's until the end of the 5345 07:24:45,780 --> 07:24:48,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marcos Jr. administration's term. 5346 07:24:48,900 --> 07:24:51,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung sa pangalawa po, 5347 07:24:52,400 --> 07:24:54,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: parang narinig na natin yan dati, diba? 5348 07:24:54,240 --> 07:24:56,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And in fact, under the Ramos administration, 5349 07:24:57,580 --> 07:24:59,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that was implemented. 5350 07:25:00,120 --> 07:25:03,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: After the repeal of the anti-subversion law, 5351 07:25:04,760 --> 07:25:06,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then there were peace process, 5352 07:25:07,780 --> 07:25:08,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: peace talks, 5353 07:25:09,440 --> 07:25:16,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay pinahawak sa PNP yung counter-insurgency. 5354 07:25:16,740 --> 07:25:17,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, apparently, 5355 07:25:18,900 --> 07:25:22,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan uli ang policy direction 5356 07:25:22,680 --> 07:25:25,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng under this plan. 5357 07:25:26,540 --> 07:25:27,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Una muna, 5358 07:25:28,080 --> 07:25:29,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ang basis nun? 5359 07:25:29,680 --> 07:25:30,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit may ganitong 5360 07:25:30,980 --> 07:25:34,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: legislative and policy agenda 5361 07:25:34,600 --> 07:25:37,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang NTF-ELCAC? 5362 07:25:37,900 --> 07:25:38,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Basis. 5363 07:25:39,140 --> 07:25:39,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: What is the basis? 5364 07:25:39,880 --> 07:25:51,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 5365 07:25:51,440 --> 07:25:53,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This might be related to 5366 07:25:53,620 --> 07:25:54,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the comprehensive 5367 07:25:54,760 --> 07:25:56,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: archipelagic defense concept, 5368 07:25:57,380 --> 07:25:58,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which basically, 5369 07:25:59,820 --> 07:26:00,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: since we're 5370 07:26:02,000 --> 07:26:04,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: refocusing, 5371 07:26:04,400 --> 07:26:04,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: we're shifting 5372 07:26:04,980 --> 07:26:07,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the defense posture of the Philippines 5373 07:26:07,880 --> 07:26:09,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: towards the 5374 07:26:09,860 --> 07:26:11,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: protection of our 5375 07:26:11,240 --> 07:26:13,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: exclusive economic zones. 5376 07:26:14,820 --> 07:26:16,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, given that 5377 07:26:16,060 --> 07:26:17,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the military would be 5378 07:26:17,940 --> 07:26:19,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: reoriented towards 5379 07:26:19,820 --> 07:26:21,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the protection of our 5380 07:26:21,040 --> 07:26:21,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: EEZ, 5381 07:26:23,300 --> 07:26:24,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of course, 5382 07:26:24,260 --> 07:26:25,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that would create 5383 07:26:25,760 --> 07:26:28,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a vacuum 5384 07:26:28,320 --> 07:26:31,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that the PNP, 5385 07:26:32,240 --> 07:26:32,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the police, 5386 07:26:33,180 --> 07:26:35,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and the LGUs 5387 07:26:35,060 --> 07:26:36,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: should fill. 5388 07:26:37,140 --> 07:26:38,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Given the 5389 07:26:38,980 --> 07:26:39,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: perspective. 5390 07:26:39,860 --> 07:26:41,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay, so, 5391 07:26:41,840 --> 07:26:43,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this is related to the shift 5392 07:26:43,680 --> 07:26:45,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in focus of the ANP 5393 07:26:45,500 --> 07:26:47,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to external defense. 5394 07:26:48,140 --> 07:26:49,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Towards the protection 5395 07:26:49,840 --> 07:26:51,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of our exclusive economic zones. 5396 07:26:51,640 --> 07:26:52,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: External defense, including 5397 07:26:52,840 --> 07:26:56,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: exclusive economic zones. 5398 07:26:57,000 --> 07:26:57,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5399 07:26:57,560 --> 07:26:58,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, yun naman talaga 5400 07:26:58,820 --> 07:26:59,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pangunahing, 5401 07:26:59,760 --> 07:27:00,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under the Constitution, 5402 07:27:00,980 --> 07:27:01,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun ang pangunahing 5403 07:27:01,940 --> 07:27:03,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mandato, 5404 07:27:03,980 --> 07:27:04,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: diba, 5405 07:27:05,000 --> 07:27:06,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng armed forces, 5406 07:27:07,420 --> 07:27:08,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: external defense, 5407 07:27:08,640 --> 07:27:09,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to secure, 5408 07:27:09,860 --> 07:27:11,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the territory. 5409 07:27:11,460 --> 07:27:11,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 5410 07:27:12,160 --> 07:27:12,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5411 07:27:14,860 --> 07:27:16,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano na po ang status 5412 07:27:16,480 --> 07:27:18,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng ganitong 5413 07:27:18,860 --> 07:27:20,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: agenda 5414 07:27:20,520 --> 07:27:23,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng NSC, 5415 07:27:23,540 --> 07:27:24,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NTFL-CAC, 5416 07:27:24,700 --> 07:27:26,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the Marcos Jr. Administration? 5417 07:27:26,340 --> 07:27:27,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Realistic ba to? 5418 07:27:28,080 --> 07:27:29,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mapatutupad ba to? 5419 07:27:29,400 --> 07:27:30,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakikita ba nila 5420 07:27:30,200 --> 07:27:31,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na bago mag-2028 5421 07:27:31,760 --> 07:27:34,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay magagawa na 5422 07:27:34,540 --> 07:27:37,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ipahawak na 5423 07:27:37,020 --> 07:27:37,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa LGU 5424 07:27:37,980 --> 07:27:38,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at 5425 07:27:38,480 --> 07:27:40,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: PNP 5426 07:27:40,060 --> 07:27:41,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang counter-insurgency 5427 07:27:41,260 --> 07:27:42,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos nakapokus 5428 07:27:42,460 --> 07:27:44,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang militar 5429 07:27:44,300 --> 07:27:46,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa external defense? 5430 07:27:48,180 --> 07:27:49,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, 5431 07:27:50,120 --> 07:27:50,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: well, 5432 07:27:50,360 --> 07:27:51,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this might be 5433 07:27:51,080 --> 07:27:51,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a discussion 5434 07:27:51,800 --> 07:27:53,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for the budget 5435 07:27:53,080 --> 07:27:54,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: deliberations 5436 07:27:54,000 --> 07:27:54,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the Department 5437 07:27:54,900 --> 07:27:55,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of National Defense, 5438 07:27:55,760 --> 07:27:57,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but that is the goal. 5439 07:27:57,760 --> 07:27:58,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That is the goal. 5440 07:27:58,540 --> 07:27:59,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: To, of course, 5441 07:27:59,480 --> 07:28:00,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: equip our 5442 07:28:00,580 --> 07:28:02,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: uniformed forces 5443 07:28:02,160 --> 07:28:03,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to fulfill 5444 07:28:03,280 --> 07:28:04,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this 5445 07:28:04,780 --> 07:28:05,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: comprehensive 5446 07:28:05,920 --> 07:28:06,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: archipelagic 5447 07:28:06,620 --> 07:28:07,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: defense concept. 5448 07:28:09,020 --> 07:28:09,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5449 07:28:09,860 --> 07:28:10,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, goal. 5450 07:28:10,500 --> 07:28:11,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, para ano yan? 5451 07:28:11,520 --> 07:28:12,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Drawing pa lang yan? 5452 07:28:12,300 --> 07:28:12,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Drawing? 5453 07:28:13,360 --> 07:28:14,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: These goals are 5454 07:28:14,900 --> 07:28:16,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: incorporated 5455 07:28:16,960 --> 07:28:18,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: within the proposed 5456 07:28:18,020 --> 07:28:18,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: fiscal year 5457 07:28:18,760 --> 07:28:19,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 2027 budget. 5458 07:28:19,900 --> 07:28:20,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. 5459 07:28:20,700 --> 07:28:20,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But, 5460 07:28:21,240 --> 07:28:22,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is there already, 5461 07:28:22,720 --> 07:28:23,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ko alam eh, 5462 07:28:24,080 --> 07:28:24,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron na bang 5463 07:28:24,840 --> 07:28:26,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: part of 5464 07:28:26,600 --> 07:28:27,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: priority legislation 5465 07:28:27,880 --> 07:28:28,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ba ito 5466 07:28:28,240 --> 07:28:29,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Marcos Jr. 5467 07:28:29,260 --> 07:28:29,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: administration? 5468 07:28:30,380 --> 07:28:31,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is this part 5469 07:28:31,040 --> 07:28:31,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the LEDAC 5470 07:28:31,880 --> 07:28:34,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: priority 5471 07:28:34,560 --> 07:28:35,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: legislative agenda? 5472 07:28:39,860 --> 07:28:41,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At meron na bang bill 5473 07:28:41,320 --> 07:28:43,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na tumatakbo 5474 07:28:43,120 --> 07:28:44,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa kongresong ito? 5475 07:28:45,420 --> 07:28:46,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We're looking through 5476 07:28:46,680 --> 07:28:47,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the 5477 07:28:47,180 --> 07:28:48,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particular 5478 07:28:48,780 --> 07:28:50,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: legislative agenda. 5479 07:28:51,060 --> 07:28:52,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May proposal kayo, 5480 07:28:52,720 --> 07:28:53,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi nyo alam. 5481 07:28:53,600 --> 07:28:53,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5482 07:28:54,160 --> 07:28:54,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, 5483 07:28:55,100 --> 07:28:55,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sige po, 5484 07:28:55,540 --> 07:28:57,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I just wanted an update 5485 07:28:57,460 --> 07:28:58,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on this 5486 07:28:58,260 --> 07:28:59,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particular proposal. 5487 07:28:59,920 --> 07:29:00,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Third, 5488 07:29:01,360 --> 07:29:06,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito po, 5489 07:29:06,880 --> 07:29:07,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I noted 5490 07:29:07,400 --> 07:29:08,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the 5491 07:29:08,720 --> 07:29:09,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: discussion 5492 07:29:09,200 --> 07:29:09,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: discussion 5493 07:29:09,700 --> 07:29:10,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on 5494 07:29:10,580 --> 07:29:12,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: parang review 5495 07:29:12,120 --> 07:29:13,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga achievements 5496 07:29:13,180 --> 07:29:13,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng 5497 07:29:13,880 --> 07:29:15,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NTF-ELCAC, 5498 07:29:16,560 --> 07:29:17,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there is a section, 5499 07:29:17,620 --> 07:29:18,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this is in the 5500 07:29:18,120 --> 07:29:18,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: introduction 5501 07:29:18,600 --> 07:29:19,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the document, 5502 07:29:20,940 --> 07:29:21,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi dito, 5503 07:29:21,560 --> 07:29:23,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: one of the 5504 07:29:23,020 --> 07:29:24,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: achievements daw 5505 07:29:24,500 --> 07:29:25,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the NTF-ELCAC 5506 07:29:25,880 --> 07:29:26,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is situational 5507 07:29:26,880 --> 07:29:27,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: awareness, 5508 07:29:28,020 --> 07:29:28,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: empowerment, 5509 07:29:28,600 --> 07:29:29,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and protection 5510 07:29:29,760 --> 07:29:30,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of various 5511 07:29:30,460 --> 07:29:31,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sectors and 5512 07:29:31,240 --> 07:29:31,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: institutions 5513 07:29:31,860 --> 07:29:33,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: against 5514 07:29:33,080 --> 07:29:35,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: CPP-NPA 5515 07:29:35,100 --> 07:29:36,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NDF recruitment 5516 07:29:36,440 --> 07:29:36,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: strengthened. 5517 07:29:38,080 --> 07:29:38,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 5518 07:29:38,520 --> 07:29:39,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napalakas daw 5519 07:29:39,120 --> 07:29:39,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng NTF-ELCAC, 5520 07:29:39,700 --> 07:29:40,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and let me 5521 07:29:40,740 --> 07:29:41,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: just 5522 07:29:41,260 --> 07:29:43,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: read into the record 5523 07:29:43,400 --> 07:29:44,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the account 5524 07:29:44,960 --> 07:29:46,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of 5525 07:29:46,180 --> 07:29:48,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: how this was 5526 07:29:48,060 --> 07:29:48,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: attained. 5527 07:29:49,020 --> 07:29:50,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The NTF-ELCAC 5528 07:29:50,100 --> 07:29:50,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reached out 5529 07:29:50,920 --> 07:29:52,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to various sectors 5530 07:29:52,020 --> 07:29:52,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and institutions 5531 07:29:52,840 --> 07:29:53,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the country 5532 07:29:53,700 --> 07:29:55,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to widen 5533 07:29:55,000 --> 07:29:55,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and deepen 5534 07:29:55,660 --> 07:29:56,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: stakeholder 5535 07:29:56,500 --> 07:29:57,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: situational 5536 07:29:57,420 --> 07:29:57,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: awareness 5537 07:29:57,960 --> 07:29:58,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and knowledge. 5538 07:29:59,320 --> 07:29:59,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 5539 07:29:59,460 --> 07:29:59,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun ang tawag. 5540 07:30:00,000 --> 07:30:08,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: situational awareness and knowledge of the ideological, political, and organizational works of the CPP, NPA, and DF, 5541 07:30:08,660 --> 07:30:13,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including human rights and international humanitarian law violations. 5542 07:30:14,840 --> 07:30:23,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The task force vigorously undertook information, education, and advocacy campaigns through fora, seminars, and conferences 5543 07:30:23,800 --> 07:30:29,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in schools, government offices, and communities, as well as strategic communication initiatives. 5544 07:30:30,000 --> 07:30:37,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Strategic communication initiatives through various media platforms. 5545 07:30:38,480 --> 07:30:44,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At the same time, situational awareness among stakeholders within the international community was enhanced 5546 07:30:44,600 --> 07:30:51,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: through international engagement with the United Nations system, regional or multilateral educations, 5547 07:30:51,420 --> 07:30:59,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: international development and donor agencies, overseas Filipino workers and communities, and foreign states. 5548 07:31:00,000 --> 07:31:03,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, I will read it now. 5549 07:31:04,080 --> 07:31:10,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The other ones, sectoral empowerment and protection, notably of the children, youth, and student sectors, 5550 07:31:11,060 --> 07:31:14,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: against CPP, NPA, and DF recruitment were vigorously promoted. 5551 07:31:16,040 --> 07:31:19,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Among the significant undertakings are the following, 5552 07:31:20,740 --> 07:31:27,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the PNP-initiated community-based partnerships such as the Kabataan Contra Droga at Terrorismo, 5553 07:31:27,140 --> 07:31:29,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which mobilized the youth as partners, 5554 07:31:30,000 --> 07:31:32,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in addressing drug abuse and terrorism, 5555 07:31:33,340 --> 07:31:37,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the Kapulisan, Simbahan, at Pamayanan, Kasimbayanan program, 5556 07:31:38,680 --> 07:31:45,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which served as a platform of collaboration between PNP faith-based organizations and other stakeholders 5557 07:31:45,740 --> 07:31:48,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to ensure peace and order and safety in the communities. 5558 07:31:49,380 --> 07:31:57,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, collaboration between government and parents organizations such as Yakap ng Magulang and Hands of Our Children, 5559 07:31:57,340 --> 07:31:59,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the advocacy. 5560 07:32:00,000 --> 07:32:03,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ...against CPP-NPA's recruitment of children, 5561 07:32:03,360 --> 07:32:07,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: initiatives of the department of education and the commission on higher education 5562 07:32:08,660 --> 07:32:14,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to strengthen the integration of peace and education in basic and higher education, respectively, 5563 07:32:14,820 --> 07:32:23,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and DEP-EDS closure of the CPP-NPA-NDF-operated salugpungan schools in Mindanao 5564 07:32:23,840 --> 07:32:26,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to protect young IEP learners from recruitment. 5565 07:32:27,380 --> 07:32:27,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5566 07:32:28,640 --> 07:32:29,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So... 5567 07:32:30,000 --> 07:32:35,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung babasahin mo, parang napakabanayad ng mga pangyayari at nakamit ang mga tagumpay. 5568 07:32:35,760 --> 07:32:39,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero sa totoo lang, yung binabangit ng pangyayari dito, 5569 07:32:39,440 --> 07:32:51,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito yung ilang taon ng marahas na red tagging, harassment, violation of civil rights and human rights 5570 07:32:51,020 --> 07:33:02,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of individuals from a very wide spectrum of society mula sa mga profesional, sa mga guro, 5571 07:33:02,500 --> 07:33:12,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa mga kawani, sa gobyerno, sa labas ng gobyerno, media, pati mga artista, mga workers, mga unionists, 5572 07:33:13,520 --> 07:33:16,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga indigenous peoples, and so on and so forth. 5573 07:33:17,320 --> 07:33:20,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam natin yan, yung red tagging. Kaya nga, alam na natin. 5574 07:33:20,780 --> 07:33:24,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At tumatak talaga yung issue ng red tagging. This is it. 5575 07:33:25,500 --> 07:33:37,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung sinasabing situational awareness and strategic communication initiatives. 5576 07:33:37,820 --> 07:33:46,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan po yung constant red tagging on social media using paid trolls and so on and so forth. 5577 07:33:48,340 --> 07:33:50,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Using government resources. 5578 07:33:50,780 --> 07:34:04,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung Supreme Court mismo, naglabas ng ruling, yung kaugnay sa writ of amparo, yung deduro ruling, 5579 07:34:04,420 --> 07:34:13,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na nagsabi, red tagging is dangerous for the targets of red tagging. 5580 07:34:14,620 --> 07:34:17,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun po ang point natin dito. 5581 07:34:20,780 --> 07:34:28,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang paglalahad ng mga pangyayari, makikita mo na lang sa bandang dulo dahil may sinabi doon yung pinasara yung mga salugpungan schools. 5582 07:34:29,380 --> 07:34:33,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And that was by no means a peaceful process. 5583 07:34:34,560 --> 07:34:39,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung hindi, madugo po yan. Literally, in some cases, may mga namatay po. 5584 07:34:40,340 --> 07:34:48,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming pinalikas, maraming mga na-detain, may mga nag-disappear, and so on and so forth. 5585 07:34:48,600 --> 07:34:49,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5586 07:34:49,900 --> 07:34:50,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 5587 07:34:50,780 --> 07:34:52,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun po yung unang nire-rehistro natin. 5588 07:34:53,600 --> 07:34:55,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, to illustrate my point, 5589 07:34:56,720 --> 07:34:57,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi po natatapos to 5590 07:34:57,880 --> 07:35:00,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dun sa panahon ng nakaraang administrasyon, 5591 07:35:00,640 --> 07:35:02,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kundi nagpapatuloy hanggang ngayon. 5592 07:35:03,180 --> 07:35:05,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let me take the case of 5593 07:35:05,480 --> 07:35:10,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Alliance of Concerned Teachers Region 5 Union. 5594 07:35:11,560 --> 07:35:14,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung Alliance of Concerned Teachers, 5595 07:35:14,840 --> 07:35:16,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinanggalingan kong organisasyon yan. 5596 07:35:17,080 --> 07:35:20,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I used to be the national chairperson of ACT. 5597 07:35:20,780 --> 07:35:24,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: From 2002 to 2012. 5598 07:35:25,300 --> 07:35:30,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, then I became a member of the House through ACT Teachers Party List. 5599 07:35:31,340 --> 07:35:39,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, isa sa mga pinagsikapan at pinaghirapan ng Alliance of Concerned Teachers throughout the country. 5600 07:35:39,360 --> 07:35:41,780 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: With the indulgence of the Honorable Tinio, please. 5601 07:35:41,800 --> 07:35:43,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo, patapos na po tayo. 5602 07:35:43,840 --> 07:35:48,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay ang pag-unionize ng mga public school teachers. 5603 07:35:48,780 --> 07:35:50,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ACT Region 5. 5604 07:35:50,780 --> 07:35:58,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang pag-union is the sole and accredited negotiating unit. 5605 07:35:58,880 --> 07:36:01,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung tanging union na accredited 5606 07:36:01,340 --> 07:36:04,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng gobyerno, ng Civil Service Commission, 5607 07:36:05,280 --> 07:36:07,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Department of Labor and Employment, 5608 07:36:07,280 --> 07:36:07,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at ng DepEd. 5609 07:36:09,220 --> 07:36:10,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bilang union 5610 07:36:10,940 --> 07:36:14,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng more than 50,000 teachers 5611 07:36:14,100 --> 07:36:17,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DepEd sa Region 5. 5612 07:36:17,920 --> 07:36:18,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bicol Region. 5613 07:36:19,300 --> 07:36:20,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para makakreditsin, 5614 07:36:20,780 --> 07:36:24,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kailangan ipakita mo na supportado ka ng mayorya ng mga teacher. 5615 07:36:25,460 --> 07:36:27,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, may pirmahan yan. 5616 07:36:28,380 --> 07:36:31,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And you have to get, hindi po biro na makuha mo 5617 07:36:31,360 --> 07:36:34,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pirma at supporta 5618 07:36:34,520 --> 07:36:39,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng more than, the majority, in short, 5619 07:36:39,840 --> 07:36:42,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the majority of public school teachers throughout the region. 5620 07:36:43,080 --> 07:36:45,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mula kamarinis norte hanggang Sorsogon. 5621 07:36:45,900 --> 07:36:49,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagkakita ko si Pongwowo dito. 5622 07:36:49,280 --> 07:36:50,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan, Sorsogon. 5623 07:36:50,780 --> 07:36:51,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? 5624 07:36:52,140 --> 07:36:53,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sila po ang accredited union. 5625 07:36:54,100 --> 07:36:57,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And on August 2930, 5626 07:36:58,700 --> 07:37:03,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nag-conduct sila ng Regional Leadership Training and Seminar, 5627 07:37:04,240 --> 07:37:07,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung ACT Bicol Region Union. 5628 07:37:08,580 --> 07:37:09,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, ang nangyari po, 5629 07:37:10,620 --> 07:37:11,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: syempre dahil legal na, 5630 07:37:12,060 --> 07:37:13,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: recognized union, 5631 07:37:13,620 --> 07:37:14,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naglabas ng memo 5632 07:37:14,800 --> 07:37:18,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang DepEd Region 5 5633 07:37:18,180 --> 07:37:20,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the activity. 5634 07:37:20,780 --> 07:37:25,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That memo included a list of all the participants 5635 07:37:25,320 --> 07:37:29,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa iba't-ibang mga divisions ng Region 5. 5636 07:37:30,320 --> 07:37:32,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Listahan, marami po. Mahaba yung listahan. 5637 07:37:33,260 --> 07:37:35,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: More than 100, yung pangalan. 5638 07:37:37,040 --> 07:37:39,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang nangyari po, ang nakarating sa atin na ulat, 5639 07:37:40,060 --> 07:37:42,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particular sa Kamarines Sur, 5640 07:37:43,040 --> 07:37:46,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay nahawakan ng PNP 5641 07:37:46,460 --> 07:37:50,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung memo, dahil nakapost yan sa 5642 07:37:50,140 --> 07:37:52,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: website ng DepEd, 5643 07:37:53,140 --> 07:37:53,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung advisory, 5644 07:37:54,620 --> 07:37:55,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nahawakan ng listahan, 5645 07:37:55,960 --> 07:37:56,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos inisa-isa po 5646 07:37:56,980 --> 07:37:59,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga pangalan 5647 07:37:59,400 --> 07:38:01,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng memo. 5648 07:38:02,400 --> 07:38:05,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At either tinawagan sila, 5649 07:38:05,560 --> 07:38:08,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: minessage ng mga nagpapakilalang 5650 07:38:08,160 --> 07:38:10,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: intelligence officer ng PNP, 5651 07:38:11,500 --> 07:38:11,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at 5652 07:38:11,800 --> 07:38:16,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hinihingan pa ng pangalan ng mga iba. 5653 07:38:16,080 --> 07:38:18,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa tinawagan, o kaya pinuntahan. 5654 07:38:19,520 --> 07:38:20,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinuntahan. 5655 07:38:20,140 --> 07:38:21,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa mga iskwelahan. 5656 07:38:21,640 --> 07:38:22,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sample lang po, 5657 07:38:23,140 --> 07:38:23,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga... 5658 07:38:23,900 --> 07:38:24,900 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Honorable Tinio, please. 5659 07:38:25,240 --> 07:38:26,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. Opo. Patapos na po. 5660 07:38:27,120 --> 07:38:27,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sample lang po. 5661 07:38:28,580 --> 07:38:29,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is for the record. 5662 07:38:30,440 --> 07:38:32,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, hindi po natin babangitin yung mga pangalan, 5663 07:38:32,860 --> 07:38:33,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero for example, 5664 07:38:35,100 --> 07:38:37,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from screenshots, 5665 07:38:38,160 --> 07:38:39,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga pinadala sa atin. 5666 07:38:40,640 --> 07:38:41,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Good afternoon po. 5667 07:38:42,420 --> 07:38:42,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ma'am, 5668 07:38:43,560 --> 07:38:45,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede po daw tumawag sa inyo? 5669 07:38:47,360 --> 07:38:49,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sino po? Ano po ang concern nyo? 5670 07:38:50,140 --> 07:38:52,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tawag po ako sa inyo. 5671 07:38:53,380 --> 07:38:56,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pasensya na po. Sa PNP ako. May query lang, ma'am. 5672 07:38:57,480 --> 07:38:58,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang concern nyo? 5673 07:39:00,340 --> 07:39:02,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Asking lang, please, regarding sa names, 5674 07:39:02,780 --> 07:39:04,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including sa mga umaten sa Ligaspi. 5675 07:39:05,520 --> 07:39:06,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ima gano'n, hinihingan ng pangalan. 5676 07:39:07,580 --> 07:39:08,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, meron namang. Iba pa to. 5677 07:39:12,180 --> 07:39:15,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito po. If aware kayo kung sino ang representative 5678 07:39:15,120 --> 07:39:17,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from this school, may pangalan ng school, 5679 07:39:17,440 --> 07:39:19,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or designated lang po to attend, 5680 07:39:20,140 --> 07:39:22,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: security survey lang po. 5681 07:39:22,500 --> 07:39:23,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun ang tawag. 5682 07:39:24,020 --> 07:39:26,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O di kaya, another quote, 5683 07:39:28,020 --> 07:39:30,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: di naman po kami profiling sa inyo. 5684 07:39:30,600 --> 07:39:32,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagva-validate lang po kami 5685 07:39:32,160 --> 07:39:35,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung paano ka na list doon. 5686 07:39:36,560 --> 07:39:39,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi ang iba, as per info, 5687 07:39:39,980 --> 07:39:41,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinalagay lang daw po sa list. 5688 07:39:41,840 --> 07:39:44,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so, yun po ang point. 5689 07:39:44,520 --> 07:39:45,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tatapusin na po natin. 5690 07:39:45,680 --> 07:39:48,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang point po, yung sinasabi rito, 5691 07:39:48,200 --> 07:39:52,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung situational awareness, empowerment, 5692 07:39:52,900 --> 07:39:55,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and protection of various sectors and institutions 5693 07:39:55,340 --> 07:39:58,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the ground, ganyan po yan. 5694 07:39:58,240 --> 07:40:00,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga unionista na atend sa training, 5695 07:40:01,020 --> 07:40:04,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kinukuha yung pangalan, tapos iniisa-isa ng PNP. 5696 07:40:04,820 --> 07:40:06,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung iba, sabihin, mag-usap tayo. 5697 07:40:07,360 --> 07:40:09,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May sinabi isa dito, daan kayo sa ano. 5698 07:40:10,260 --> 07:40:11,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito lang, babasahin ko lang. 5699 07:40:14,720 --> 07:40:17,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bag-message ka po sa akin kung pauwi ka na po. 5700 07:40:18,200 --> 07:40:21,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maghihintay na lang po ako dito sa police station. 5701 07:40:21,800 --> 07:40:22,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung huwi na po kayo, 5702 07:40:23,480 --> 07:40:26,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o pinapadaan sa police station. 5703 07:40:27,220 --> 07:40:28,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang tanong po, 5704 07:40:30,000 --> 07:40:34,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan po ba ang pamamaraan 5705 07:40:34,520 --> 07:40:37,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na tinutulak at iniendorso 5706 07:40:37,600 --> 07:40:41,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng National Security Council 5707 07:40:41,360 --> 07:40:46,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para ipatupad yung kanilang so-called 5708 07:40:48,200 --> 07:40:50,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: situational awareness. 5709 07:40:50,380 --> 07:40:55,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na yung mga lehitimo at legal na public school teacher natin 5710 07:40:55,280 --> 07:40:58,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na uma-attend ng kanilang seminar 5711 07:40:58,640 --> 07:41:00,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa unionismo nila 5712 07:41:00,700 --> 07:41:04,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay tinatawagan ng police 5713 07:41:04,500 --> 07:41:06,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at pinapapunta pa sa stasyon 5714 07:41:06,880 --> 07:41:08,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para magpaliwanag. 5715 07:41:08,880 --> 07:41:09,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po ba? 5716 07:41:10,680 --> 07:41:12,980 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: That will be your last question, Honorable Tinio. 5717 07:41:13,340 --> 07:41:16,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, that probably would be a concern 5718 07:41:16,460 --> 07:41:17,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that we be better directed with you. 5719 07:41:17,600 --> 07:41:19,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Directed with the situational awareness 5720 07:41:19,500 --> 07:41:22,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and knowledge management cluster of the NTFL-CAP. 5721 07:41:22,840 --> 07:41:24,220 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Thank you, Honorable Tinio. 5722 07:41:24,400 --> 07:41:27,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I direct it to the NSE because they are the vice chair 5723 07:41:27,480 --> 07:41:30,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and I also condemn this harassment 5724 07:41:30,900 --> 07:41:36,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and violation of basic human rights 5725 07:41:36,140 --> 07:41:39,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and union rights of our teachers, 5726 07:41:40,000 --> 07:41:41,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particularly in Camarines Sur, 5727 07:41:42,460 --> 07:41:46,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: subject to such harassment and intimidation. 5728 07:41:46,720 --> 07:41:48,478 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kinukondena po natin ito. 5729 07:41:48,478 --> 07:41:53,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya po iyan ang isang issue na tinatalaan natin sa record 5730 07:41:53,760 --> 07:41:59,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na pinapahintulutan ng pondo na inilalaan ng Kongreso 5731 07:41:59,360 --> 07:42:01,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa National Security Council at NTFL-CAP. 5732 07:42:01,460 --> 07:42:02,160 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Thank you, Honorable Tinio. 5733 07:42:02,160 --> 07:42:03,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po. 5734 07:42:03,180 --> 07:42:04,000 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Thank you, Honorable Tinio. 5735 07:42:04,340 --> 07:42:05,100 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Majority Leader. 5736 07:42:09,080 --> 07:42:11,260 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize 5737 07:42:11,260 --> 07:42:14,200 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: the Honorable Representative Sergio Dagooc 5738 07:42:14,200 --> 07:42:16,120 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: of APEC Party List 5739 07:42:16,120 --> 07:42:17,440 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: to interpellate on 5740 07:42:17,440 --> 07:42:19,780 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: the proposed budget of the National Security Council. 5741 07:42:20,260 --> 07:42:22,260 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Honorable Sergio Dagooc is recognized. 5742 07:42:22,560 --> 07:42:23,080 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Please proceed. 5743 07:42:24,440 --> 07:42:26,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 5744 07:42:26,340 --> 07:42:27,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Majority Leader. 5745 07:42:28,400 --> 07:42:29,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pagandang gabi po sa ating lahat, 5746 07:42:30,040 --> 07:42:32,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: especially to the Distinguished Sponsor. 5747 07:42:33,120 --> 07:42:36,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kunting katalungan lang po, Distinguished Sponsor. 5748 07:42:37,840 --> 07:42:42,900 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ako po ay naguguluhan dito sa budget ng NSE. 5749 07:42:44,700 --> 07:42:47,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tama po ba yung nakita ko na 5750 07:42:47,320 --> 07:42:49,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: bumaba po yung budget ninyo 5751 07:42:49,620 --> 07:42:51,200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: compared to 2026? 5752 07:42:52,220 --> 07:42:54,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Tama po yun, Mr. Speaker. 5753 07:42:55,220 --> 07:42:55,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Bumaba po. 5754 07:42:56,480 --> 07:42:56,820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero, 5755 07:42:57,820 --> 07:43:00,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kahit bumaba, 5756 07:43:00,300 --> 07:43:02,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yung MOOE ninyo 5757 07:43:02,540 --> 07:43:07,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nag-increase by 10.5% 5758 07:43:07,160 --> 07:43:10,480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: or from 871 million 5759 07:43:10,480 --> 07:43:13,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: sa 2026, no? 5760 07:43:14,260 --> 07:43:14,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ay, 5761 07:43:15,540 --> 07:43:16,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ah, 5762 07:43:17,320 --> 07:43:21,720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: umabot siya ng 962 million. 5763 07:43:21,920 --> 07:43:22,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tama po ba? 5764 07:43:23,120 --> 07:43:24,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Tama po, Mr. Speaker. 5765 07:43:25,420 --> 07:43:25,980 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yung 5766 07:43:25,980 --> 07:43:30,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: capital outlay ninyo, 5767 07:43:30,760 --> 07:43:30,960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: no? 5768 07:43:32,020 --> 07:43:32,380 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ah, 5769 07:43:34,520 --> 07:43:34,920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ay 5770 07:43:34,920 --> 07:43:37,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: tumaas, no? 5771 07:43:37,760 --> 07:43:40,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Doon sa subscription expenses alone, 5772 07:43:41,380 --> 07:43:43,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: tumaas ng 261 million 5773 07:43:43,540 --> 07:43:45,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: or 23% 5774 07:43:45,540 --> 07:43:47,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: compared sa 22 million. 5775 07:43:47,320 --> 07:43:48,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tama po ba yung 26? 5776 07:43:48,320 --> 07:43:48,920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tama po ba? 5777 07:43:49,760 --> 07:43:52,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ah, yung capital outlay po, Mr. Speaker, 5778 07:43:52,780 --> 07:43:53,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: bumaba po. 5779 07:43:53,700 --> 07:43:56,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Actually, 600,000 lang po ang capital outlay. 5780 07:43:56,900 --> 07:43:58,880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yung subscription expenses, 5781 07:43:59,900 --> 07:44:00,020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: no? 5782 07:44:00,200 --> 07:44:05,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nag-increase yan ng 261.1 million, no? 5783 07:44:06,180 --> 07:44:07,840 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: 23% po siya 5784 07:44:07,840 --> 07:44:12,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na mataas kaysa 2026. 5785 07:44:12,700 --> 07:44:15,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ano po ba yung subscription na yun? 5786 07:44:17,320 --> 07:44:22,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pwede po bang ipaliwanag? 5787 07:44:22,200 --> 07:44:23,880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Anong, anong subscription to? 5788 07:44:34,180 --> 07:44:35,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Tama po, Mr. Speaker. 5789 07:44:35,980 --> 07:44:37,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ah, ng 2026 po, 5790 07:44:37,820 --> 07:44:38,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung GAA, 5791 07:44:38,740 --> 07:44:39,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ah, yung level po, 5792 07:44:39,480 --> 07:44:41,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 172.8 million. 5793 07:44:42,540 --> 07:44:44,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ah, for 2027 NEP po, 5794 07:44:44,260 --> 07:44:45,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ang proposed po ay 5795 07:44:45,820 --> 07:44:47,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 261.18 million. 5796 07:44:47,300 --> 07:44:51,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, tumaas po ng 5797 07:44:51,040 --> 07:44:53,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 79 million. 5798 07:44:54,560 --> 07:44:55,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ah, ano po yung 5799 07:44:55,980 --> 07:44:57,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: pangalaw? 5800 07:44:57,340 --> 07:44:58,800 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Can we ask, Mr. Speaker, 5801 07:44:58,980 --> 07:44:59,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: distinct sponsor? 5802 07:45:00,000 --> 07:45:02,820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: What exactly is being subscribed to? 5803 07:45:03,840 --> 07:45:05,720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ano yung sinasubscribe natin dito? 5804 07:45:06,740 --> 07:45:07,860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Who are the suppliers? 5805 07:45:17,740 --> 07:45:20,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Habang pinupull up yung data, 5806 07:45:20,640 --> 07:45:22,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: distinguished colleague, para po daw po 5807 07:45:22,940 --> 07:45:27,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: para po daw po sa mga cyber security operations ng NSC. 5808 07:45:27,180 --> 07:45:30,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pero kinukuha po namin yung datos dun sa 5809 07:45:30,460 --> 07:45:37,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: listahan po nung particular programs po na 5810 07:45:37,380 --> 07:45:40,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung sa subscription po dun sa... 5811 07:45:40,220 --> 07:45:44,100 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Are these contracts multi-year o annual? 5812 07:45:57,180 --> 07:46:03,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yung subscription po na type, annual po siya. 5813 07:46:03,700 --> 07:46:06,020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero nag-renew po siya every year. 5814 07:46:06,540 --> 07:46:09,760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So annual, nagpo-procure tayo annually? 5815 07:46:10,860 --> 07:46:13,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Apo, for subscription expenses, Mr. Speaker. 5816 07:46:13,620 --> 07:46:14,960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pinapabid natin to? 5817 07:46:15,860 --> 07:46:16,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, sir. 5818 07:46:16,520 --> 07:46:16,900 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Annually. 5819 07:46:19,060 --> 07:46:21,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ano tong pinoprocure natin? 5820 07:46:23,140 --> 07:46:26,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Domestic to or foreign-owned platform? 5821 07:46:27,180 --> 07:46:41,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Depende po dun sa type of operation, Mr. Speaker. 5822 07:46:42,140 --> 07:46:46,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Kung domestic po siya or yung owner pong app. 5823 07:46:49,180 --> 07:46:50,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pinupulap lang po. 5824 07:46:50,980 --> 07:46:53,140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Halo siya, may domestic, may foreign? 5825 07:46:53,540 --> 07:46:55,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Apo, mixed po siya, Mr. Speaker. 5826 07:46:57,180 --> 07:46:59,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Dito sa personal services, 5827 07:47:00,520 --> 07:47:03,880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: bakit po ang daming bakante? 5828 07:47:05,140 --> 07:47:07,820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi pinipilled up yung plantilya, 5829 07:47:08,400 --> 07:47:11,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: pero tumataas po yung personal services, 5830 07:47:11,680 --> 07:47:13,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ang dami po nating contract of service? 5831 07:47:15,420 --> 07:47:18,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yung sa personal services po, Mr. Speaker, 5832 07:47:18,360 --> 07:47:21,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: tumaas po ng 6% dahil po dun sa SSL, 5833 07:47:22,320 --> 07:47:25,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung sa tranche po, yung bagong tranche po ng SSL. 5834 07:47:25,820 --> 07:47:27,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi may approved kayo. 5835 07:47:27,180 --> 07:47:32,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: May approved kayo na parang 100 plus na plantilya. 5836 07:47:33,260 --> 07:47:39,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Mga 170 yata, pero ilan ba yung approved na plantilya ninyo? 5837 07:47:39,540 --> 07:47:45,760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi nagagalit yung kasamahan ko dito na bakit hindi natin regularize yung ano. 5838 07:47:46,420 --> 07:47:47,780 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pupunta na naman sa DOLE ulit. 5839 07:47:57,180 --> 07:48:03,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: May nagbabalak dito na ipa-defer dahil hindi pinilapan yung... 5840 07:48:04,420 --> 07:48:06,600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya ako na lang ang nagtanong, baka ma-defer pa. 5841 07:48:07,140 --> 07:48:10,860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ilan po yung plantilya positions approved ng DBM? 5842 07:48:11,980 --> 07:48:14,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ngayon pong 2026 po, 212. 5843 07:48:15,140 --> 07:48:17,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Same lang po siya sa level ng 2025. 5844 07:48:17,260 --> 07:48:18,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ilan yung na-filled up? 5845 07:48:20,420 --> 07:48:21,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 165 po. 5846 07:48:21,940 --> 07:48:22,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: 165. 5847 07:48:22,500 --> 07:48:26,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ilan yung job order at saka contract of service? 5848 07:48:27,180 --> 07:48:31,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ang contract of service po for 2026 na na-approved po, 71. 5849 07:48:33,360 --> 07:48:33,880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ilan? 5850 07:48:34,740 --> 07:48:36,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 71 po, Mr. Speaker. 5851 07:48:36,280 --> 07:48:36,640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: 71? 5852 07:48:37,300 --> 07:48:37,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Opo. 5853 07:48:38,400 --> 07:48:41,640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, bakit po hindi na lang natin pinilapan yun? 5854 07:48:41,760 --> 07:48:45,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi that is a pattern among government agencies. 5855 07:48:47,140 --> 07:48:53,340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ang dami naming kaso sa labor, yung mga private, dahil doon sa contract of service, job order. 5856 07:48:53,340 --> 07:48:54,340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Bakit sa government? 5857 07:48:55,060 --> 07:48:57,140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ang daming un-filled na plantilya. 5858 07:48:57,180 --> 07:49:01,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tapos, maraming job order at saka COS. 5859 07:49:03,000 --> 07:49:11,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As per the agency po, Mr. Speaker, ongoing po yung review ng mga applications para po dun sa mga plantilya positions. 5860 07:49:16,280 --> 07:49:17,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Actually, no? 5861 07:49:18,800 --> 07:49:26,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: With all due respect, pasensya na, unacceptable yung mga sagot na yun. 5862 07:49:26,500 --> 07:49:27,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ang tanong ko, 5863 07:49:27,180 --> 07:49:36,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, hindi ko na lang, bakit mababa yung utilization natin sa budget? 5864 07:49:36,460 --> 07:49:39,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, hindi ko na lang isa-isahin kung saang banda. 5865 07:49:40,220 --> 07:49:46,640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero, bakit mababa yung budget utilization ninyo sa 2025? 5866 07:49:48,440 --> 07:49:53,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As per the agency po, Mr. Speaker, may mga delay lang daw po sa procurement. 5867 07:49:53,900 --> 07:49:57,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Dahil po, buhat nung nangyari po. 5868 07:49:57,180 --> 07:50:00,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Sa, ano, straight to foremost, marami pong na-delay na ICT equipment. 5869 07:50:01,220 --> 07:50:05,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Nagka-problema din po sa procurement kasi tumaas po yung mga materyales. 5870 07:50:05,460 --> 07:50:07,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, nagka-problema sa, ano. 5871 07:50:07,860 --> 07:50:09,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, hindi na ito magamit. 5872 07:50:10,620 --> 07:50:14,900 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yung hindi ninyo nagamit previous year, hindi na talaga ito magamit. 5873 07:50:21,820 --> 07:50:25,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As per the agency, Mr. Speaker, continuing naman daw po. 5874 07:50:25,620 --> 07:50:26,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, magagamit pa. 5875 07:50:27,180 --> 07:50:30,580 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Itong 250 million, no, in confidential expenses. 5876 07:50:33,920 --> 07:50:41,460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Dito sa hiningin ninyong 250 million, halos kapariha lang ito sa 2026. 5877 07:50:41,460 --> 07:50:50,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: But, you did not identify the targets, ano yung sources or operations, no? 5878 07:50:51,660 --> 07:50:57,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pwede bang ma-devolve yung utilization 5879 07:50:57,180 --> 07:51:05,480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: saan natin ito gagamitin without, of course, breaching the national security aspect? 5880 07:51:07,660 --> 07:51:12,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi ko lang maintindihan kasi humihingi tayo, hindi naman natin nagamit. 5881 07:51:12,560 --> 07:51:15,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi natin na-identify saan gagamitin. 5882 07:52:53,040 --> 07:53:10,280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Actually, marami akong tanong, pero naawa ako sa sponsor. Kaibigan ko iyan, so dalawa na lang, last two na lang. Pag nasagot iyan, last two out of eight. Walo pa sana yung tanong ko, pero mahirap ipa-defer yung National Security Council. 5883 07:53:26,340 --> 07:53:30,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague. Thank you for your patience. 5884 07:53:30,660 --> 07:53:35,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yung listahan po, isasubmit na lang po namin yung poll. 5885 07:53:35,640 --> 07:53:38,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pero ang pwede ko lang po sabihin para po dun sa confidential funds, 5886 07:53:39,680 --> 07:53:43,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung National Review of Foreign Investments on Military Cybersecurity, 5887 07:53:44,660 --> 07:53:47,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung 360 Archipelagic Security Governance, 5888 07:53:48,620 --> 07:53:53,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the Protection of Critical Information Infrastructure through Cybersecurity Efforts, 5889 07:53:54,220 --> 07:53:55,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Crisis Management, 5890 07:53:57,040 --> 07:54:02,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Tapos counter-intelligence operations. 5891 07:54:02,160 --> 07:54:04,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Okay. So, with? 5892 07:54:04,080 --> 07:54:07,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, Mr. Speaker, kung nahihirapan kayo sa procurement, 5893 07:54:07,840 --> 07:54:15,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I suggest the sponsor will introduce a special provision na 5894 07:54:15,120 --> 07:54:20,740 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: sana i-release ni DBM first quarter pa para may time pa kayo to procure. 5895 07:54:21,140 --> 07:54:25,040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi annual ka mo yung procurement. 5896 07:54:25,040 --> 07:54:30,280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi madidiado tayo sa ating National Security Airport. 5897 07:54:30,480 --> 07:54:30,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kayo pa. 5898 07:54:30,720 --> 07:54:33,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pa naman ang taga-advice ni Presidente. 5899 07:54:33,440 --> 07:54:35,400 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ito yung second to the last. 5900 07:54:35,940 --> 07:54:40,640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nakita ko, yung operations increased from approximately, 5901 07:54:40,960 --> 07:54:43,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yung expenses sa operations, 5902 07:54:44,220 --> 07:54:54,760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: increased from approximately 295 million in 2026 to 525 million in 2027, 5903 07:54:54,760 --> 07:55:00,600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: while the general administration, bumaba siya by more than one half. 5904 07:55:00,720 --> 07:55:03,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Bakit po nire-classify natin ito? 5905 07:55:09,040 --> 07:55:11,640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Is this a genuine, 5906 07:55:12,300 --> 07:55:21,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: is this only a genuine shift of resources towards the frontline national security functions 5907 07:55:21,660 --> 07:55:25,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: or primarily an accounting program? 5908 07:55:25,260 --> 07:55:30,680 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Accounting lang para nilipat lang natin ang, 5909 07:55:30,720 --> 07:55:31,720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ng ibang account code. 5910 07:55:33,140 --> 07:55:34,440 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nire-classify lang natin. 5911 07:55:35,660 --> 07:55:38,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Sinunod lang natin yung definition ng accounting, 5912 07:55:38,480 --> 07:55:39,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: accounting is an art. 5913 07:55:44,100 --> 07:55:46,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As per the agency, Mr. Speaker, 5914 07:55:47,400 --> 07:55:49,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kaya daw po bumaba yung sa gas, 5915 07:55:49,960 --> 07:55:53,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kasi may reclassification po ng ibang mga programa. 5916 07:55:54,180 --> 07:55:56,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, may mga gas daw po na, 5917 07:55:56,440 --> 07:56:00,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: may mga programa po na previously classified under the gas. 5918 07:56:00,720 --> 07:56:02,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pinasok daw po siya sa support to operations. 5919 07:56:02,780 --> 07:56:04,480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nilipat lang ng ibang account code. 5920 07:56:05,980 --> 07:56:06,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes po. 5921 07:56:06,280 --> 07:56:07,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nire-classify nga lang. 5922 07:56:08,340 --> 07:56:10,020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, a matter of accounting lang ito. 5923 07:56:10,720 --> 07:56:14,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi maapektuhan yung ating trabaho. 5924 07:56:14,860 --> 07:56:16,140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: A matter of accounting lang. 5925 07:56:16,880 --> 07:56:19,720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Baka may audit observation kayo, kaya nilipat ninyo? 5926 07:56:20,720 --> 07:56:21,640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya nilipat ninyo? 5927 07:56:22,500 --> 07:56:23,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Wala naman po. 5928 07:56:23,520 --> 07:56:23,780 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Okay. 5929 07:56:24,100 --> 07:56:24,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you. 5930 07:56:24,700 --> 07:56:25,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, last. 5931 07:56:26,740 --> 07:56:28,400 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero sana may anim pa. 5932 07:56:29,100 --> 07:56:30,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi ko maintindihan yung, 5933 07:56:30,500 --> 07:56:32,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: performance indicators ninyo. 5934 07:56:33,360 --> 07:56:35,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I don't know if this is part of the 5935 07:56:35,660 --> 07:56:40,140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: national security aspect, no? 5936 07:56:41,080 --> 07:56:42,600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Your target, halimbawa, 5937 07:56:42,880 --> 07:56:44,760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: for essential elements 5938 07:56:44,760 --> 07:56:46,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: of information, 5939 07:56:48,260 --> 07:56:50,560 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: 2026 is 548. 5940 07:56:51,300 --> 07:56:53,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero yung actual accomplishment ninyo is 5941 07:56:53,500 --> 07:56:56,240 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: 5,510. 5942 07:56:56,620 --> 07:56:58,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: More than 10 times the target. 5943 07:56:58,660 --> 07:57:00,340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Bakit po? 5944 07:57:00,500 --> 07:57:05,860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Mag-target ng 548 pero ma-complace 5,500. 5945 07:57:23,860 --> 07:57:25,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yung ibang agency kasi, 5946 07:57:25,840 --> 07:57:27,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: hirap pa nga sila makuha yung target nila. 5947 07:57:28,640 --> 07:57:29,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Sana BIR kayo. 5948 07:57:30,500 --> 07:57:33,340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Target 500, makulikta 1,500. 5949 07:57:33,340 --> 07:57:35,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ako, 5,500. 5950 07:57:37,040 --> 07:57:37,900 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Bakit po ganun? 5951 07:57:37,900 --> 07:57:39,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Times 10 yung accomplishment. 5952 07:57:43,560 --> 07:57:44,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Typo? 5953 07:57:44,160 --> 07:57:44,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Typo lang yan? 5954 07:57:44,940 --> 07:57:49,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: O talagang tama yung number na yan? 5955 07:58:03,860 --> 07:58:09,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, as per the agency po, kaya po medyo 5956 07:58:09,260 --> 07:58:13,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: mataas po compared to the target. Depende daw po sa incidents. 5957 07:58:13,620 --> 07:58:15,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Depende sa? 5958 07:58:15,920 --> 07:58:24,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Incidents. So, with regard to kung ilan po yung essential elements na kailangang kunin, kaya po medyo tumaas po. 5959 07:58:24,580 --> 07:58:28,880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Again, I am not satisfied with the answer. 5960 07:58:28,880 --> 07:58:32,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: May mali talaga sa projection ninyo. 5961 07:58:32,800 --> 07:58:36,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi dapat matalas yung ano ninyo, 5962 07:58:36,160 --> 07:58:39,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: National Security Advisor kayo ni Presidente, 5963 07:58:39,200 --> 07:58:41,340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: tapos sa target man lang ng accomplishment, 5964 07:58:41,580 --> 07:58:46,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: napakalayo, 10 times yung error. 5965 07:58:46,320 --> 07:58:48,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So yung margin of error sa susunod, 5966 07:58:49,140 --> 07:58:50,380 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nandito pa ako sa susunod, 5967 07:58:50,500 --> 07:58:51,860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: hindi pa matapos yung term ko, 5968 07:58:52,360 --> 07:58:53,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: titignan ko ulit yan. 5969 07:58:54,180 --> 07:58:58,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Can we expect that almost accurate, realistic? 5970 07:58:58,620 --> 07:59:01,280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Huwag kayo mag-target ng 500, 5971 07:59:01,560 --> 07:59:03,880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ang accomplishment 5,500? 5972 07:59:04,140 --> 07:59:05,960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi medyo nakakaduda na po yan. 5973 07:59:07,220 --> 07:59:09,400 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Would you agree with me, Mr. Speaker, 5974 07:59:09,640 --> 07:59:10,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Distinguished Sponsor, 5975 07:59:10,520 --> 07:59:13,460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na nakakaduda na po yung mag-target ka 500, 5976 07:59:13,700 --> 07:59:15,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ma-accomplish mo 5,500? 5977 07:59:17,760 --> 07:59:18,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tama po ba? 5978 07:59:19,340 --> 07:59:21,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Malayo po talaga, Mr. Speaker. 5979 07:59:21,640 --> 07:59:25,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Though, ang sabi po ng NSA, 5980 07:59:25,900 --> 07:59:26,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: NSE, 5981 07:59:26,740 --> 07:59:27,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kasi po, 5982 07:59:27,880 --> 07:59:28,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: depended daw po, 5983 07:59:28,620 --> 07:59:30,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: talaga sa number of incidents. 5984 07:59:30,400 --> 07:59:31,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Okay, sige. 5985 07:59:35,480 --> 07:59:36,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tinanggal ko na, Mr. Speaker, 5986 07:59:37,100 --> 07:59:38,780 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yung anim na katanungan 5987 07:59:38,780 --> 07:59:39,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kasi alam ko, 5988 07:59:39,500 --> 07:59:41,020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: mahirapan sila magsagot. 5989 07:59:41,540 --> 07:59:43,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Inaantok na rin po yung presiding officer. 5990 07:59:44,660 --> 07:59:46,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, Mr. Speaker, 5991 07:59:46,920 --> 07:59:47,720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Distinguished Sponsor, 5992 07:59:47,800 --> 07:59:49,560 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: malaming salamat sa kasagutan. 5993 07:59:50,320 --> 07:59:52,740 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: There being no other members from the minority 5994 07:59:52,740 --> 07:59:54,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: who wanted to interpelate, 5995 07:59:54,760 --> 07:59:57,960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I move to terminate the period of interpellation 5996 07:59:57,960 --> 07:59:58,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: and debate 5997 07:59:58,620 --> 07:59:59,900 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: to 5998 08:00:00,000 --> 08:00:02,280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: the proposed budget of the 5999 08:00:02,280 --> 08:00:04,200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: National Security Council for the 6000 08:00:04,200 --> 08:00:06,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: fiscal year 2027. 6001 08:00:06,820 --> 08:00:07,980 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I so move, Mr. Speaker. 6002 08:00:08,460 --> 08:00:09,240 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: What does the [unclear]? 6003 08:00:10,320 --> 08:00:12,280 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, 6004 08:00:12,420 --> 08:00:14,460 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: we join the minority in the motion to terminate 6005 08:00:14,460 --> 08:00:15,980 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: the period of interpellations 6006 08:00:15,980 --> 08:00:18,180 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: on the proposed budget of the National 6007 08:00:18,180 --> 08:00:20,340 Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas: Security Council. I so move, Mr. Speaker. 6008 08:00:20,720 --> 08:00:22,480 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: There is a joint motion 6009 08:00:22,480 --> 08:00:23,720 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: to terminate 6010 08:00:23,720 --> 08:00:26,260 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: the interpellation on the proposed 6011 08:00:26,260 --> 08:00:28,460 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: budget of the National Security 6012 08:00:28,460 --> 08:00:28,860 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Council. 6013 08:00:30,000 --> 08:00:30,880 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Is there any objection? 6014 08:00:32,040 --> 08:00:34,300 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Hearing none, the interpellation 6015 08:00:34,300 --> 08:00:36,100 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: on the proposed budget of the 6016 08:00:36,100 --> 08:00:38,340 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: National Security Council 6017 08:00:38,340 --> 08:00:40,280 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: is thereby terminated. 6018 08:00:41,420 --> 08:00:42,380 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: You are the leader. 6019 08:00:49,640 --> 08:00:50,600 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, 6020 08:00:50,820 --> 08:00:52,820 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: I move to suspend for a few minutes. 6021 08:00:53,100 --> 08:00:54,000 Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong: Session is suspended. 6022 08:03:30,000 --> 08:03:34,420 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session resumed. 6023 08:03:35,080 --> 08:03:36,560 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Before we proceed, 6024 08:03:37,020 --> 08:03:37,660 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader, 6025 08:03:38,980 --> 08:03:40,800 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: can we all please rise 6026 08:03:40,800 --> 08:03:43,400 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: for a moment 6027 08:03:43,400 --> 08:03:45,380 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of silence and offer a prayer 6028 08:03:45,380 --> 08:03:47,680 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: for our beloved 6029 08:03:47,680 --> 08:03:49,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: colleague, the Honorable 6030 08:03:49,540 --> 08:03:50,940 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Ciriaco B. Gato, 6031 08:03:51,860 --> 08:03:53,080 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: who passed away 6032 08:03:53,080 --> 08:03:53,980 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: earlier today. 6033 08:04:00,000 --> 08:04:17,240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. 6034 08:04:18,440 --> 08:04:20,580 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider 6035 08:04:20,580 --> 08:04:22,780 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: the proposed budget of the 6036 08:04:22,780 --> 08:04:24,400 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: National Amnesty 6037 08:04:24,400 --> 08:04:25,160 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Commission. 6038 08:04:25,160 --> 08:04:27,500 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a motion to consider 6039 08:04:27,500 --> 08:04:29,160 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: the budget of the National 6040 08:04:29,160 --> 08:04:29,960 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Amnesty Commission. 6041 08:04:30,000 --> 08:04:31,900 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Is there any objection? 6042 08:04:32,680 --> 08:04:34,320 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Hearing none. Motion is carried. 6043 08:04:35,180 --> 08:04:36,040 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. 6044 08:04:36,480 --> 08:04:38,120 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge 6045 08:04:38,120 --> 08:04:40,420 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: the heads and officials of the 6046 08:04:40,420 --> 08:04:41,940 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: National Amnesty Commission, 6047 08:04:42,460 --> 08:04:44,540 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: namely Chairperson Leah C. 6048 08:04:45,120 --> 08:04:46,460 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Tanodra Armamento, 6049 08:04:47,040 --> 08:04:47,680 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Commissioner 6050 08:04:47,680 --> 08:04:49,900 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Jamar M. 6051 08:04:50,500 --> 08:04:52,180 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Kulayan, Commissioner 6052 08:04:52,180 --> 08:04:53,980 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Ser-me L. 6053 08:04:54,800 --> 08:04:55,380 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Ayuyao. 6054 08:04:58,398 --> 08:05:00,638 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: To the officers, 6055 08:05:00,638 --> 08:05:03,160 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and the heads of the National Amnesty Commission, 6056 08:05:03,160 --> 08:05:07,400 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: namely Chairperson Leah Tanodra Armamento, 6057 08:05:07,400 --> 08:05:10,000 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Commissioner Jamar M. Kulayan, 6058 08:05:10,000 --> 08:05:12,200 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and Commissioner Ser-me Ayuyao, 6059 08:05:12,200 --> 08:05:15,120 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: on behalf of Speaker Bojie Dy 6060 08:05:15,120 --> 08:05:17,480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and Majority Leader Sandro Marcos, 6061 08:05:17,480 --> 08:05:19,280 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Sir, Ma'am, good evening. 6062 08:05:19,280 --> 08:05:21,920 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Welcome to the House of Representatives. 6063 08:05:21,920 --> 08:05:23,920 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. 6064 08:05:25,200 --> 08:05:29,840 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate. 6065 08:05:29,840 --> 08:05:35,840 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: I move that we recognize the Honorable Jose Joboy S. Aquino II, 6066 08:05:35,840 --> 08:05:40,240 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Vice Chairperson of Committee on Appropriation 6067 08:05:40,240 --> 08:05:45,240 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: to sponsor the proposed budget of the National Amnesty Commission. 6068 08:05:45,240 --> 08:05:51,240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentleman from the Lone District of Butuan, Vice Chair Joboy Aquino, 6069 08:05:51,240 --> 08:05:54,240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Mayong Gabie, you are recognized. 6070 08:05:54,240 --> 08:05:57,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, Mayong Gabie, Mr. Speaker, 6071 08:05:57,240 --> 08:05:59,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: distinguished colleagues, 6072 08:05:59,240 --> 08:06:06,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: it is my privilege to sponsor the proposed budget of the National Amnesty Commission 6073 08:06:06,240 --> 08:06:09,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the fiscal year 2027, 6074 08:06:09,240 --> 08:06:15,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: amounting to 266,700,000. 6075 08:06:15,240 --> 08:06:23,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: As an institution entrusted with implementing the Government's Amnesty Program 6076 08:06:23,240 --> 08:06:28,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for qualified beneficiaries in accordance with existing laws 6077 08:06:28,240 --> 08:06:30,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and proclamations, 6078 08:06:30,240 --> 08:06:36,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the Commission plays an important role in supporting the Government's efforts 6079 08:06:36,240 --> 08:06:43,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: towards reconciliation, reintegration, and the promotion of lasting peace 6080 08:06:43,240 --> 08:06:50,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: by providing a lawful mechanism through which qualified individuals 6081 08:06:50,240 --> 08:06:54,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: may avail themselves of amnesty. 6082 08:06:54,240 --> 08:06:57,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Its work requires 6083 08:06:57,240 --> 08:07:05,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: not only the proper evaluation and processing of applicants, 6084 08:07:05,240 --> 08:07:11,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: but also effective coordination with concerned government agencies 6085 08:07:11,240 --> 08:07:16,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to ensure that the objectives of the Amnesty Program 6086 08:07:16,240 --> 08:07:21,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: are carried out efficiently and in accordance with the law. 6087 08:07:21,240 --> 08:07:25,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: As we deliberate on the fiscal year 2027, 6088 08:07:25,240 --> 08:07:30,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: budget of the National Amnesty Commission, 6089 08:07:30,240 --> 08:07:36,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: we recognize the importance of providing the resources necessary 6090 08:07:36,240 --> 08:07:40,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the Commission to fulfill its mandate 6091 08:07:40,240 --> 08:07:47,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: while ensuring accountability and prudent use of public funds. 6092 08:07:47,240 --> 08:07:53,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The Commission's appropriations must support the effective administration 6093 08:07:53,240 --> 08:07:56,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of the Amnesty Program, 6094 08:07:56,240 --> 08:08:01,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: including the processing and issuance of amnesty grants 6095 08:08:01,240 --> 08:08:08,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as well as the institutional requirements necessary for its operations. 6096 08:08:08,240 --> 08:08:10,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: In view of the foregoing, 6097 08:08:10,240 --> 08:08:14,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I therefore ask our fellow members of this August Chamber 6098 08:08:14,240 --> 08:08:20,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to support the proposed budget of the National Amnesty Commission 6099 08:08:20,240 --> 08:08:22,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the successful implementation 6100 08:08:22,240 --> 08:08:26,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of the Amnesty Program. 6101 08:08:26,240 --> 08:08:28,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 6102 08:08:28,240 --> 08:08:34,430 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This representation is now ready to answer questions from our colleagues. 6103 08:08:34,430 --> 08:08:37,240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Salamat, Vice Chair Joboy. Majority Leader. 6104 08:08:38,200 --> 08:08:40,240 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize 6105 08:08:40,240 --> 08:08:45,240 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: the Honorable Presley C. De Jesus from PHILRECA Party-list 6106 08:08:45,240 --> 08:08:50,240 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: to interpellate the proposed budget of the National Amnesty Commission. 6107 08:08:50,240 --> 08:08:52,240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentleman from 6108 08:08:52,240 --> 08:08:54,240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: PHILRECA Party-list, 6109 08:08:54,240 --> 08:08:58,240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Honorable Presley De Jesus. 6110 08:08:58,240 --> 08:09:03,240 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Sir, you may interpellate the sponsor. 6111 08:09:03,240 --> 08:09:05,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 6112 08:09:05,240 --> 08:09:07,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I have only a few questions. 6113 08:09:07,240 --> 08:09:12,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: First, the National Amnesty Commission was created precisely 6114 08:09:12,240 --> 08:09:18,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to receive, process, and determine whether applicants are entitled to amnesty 6115 08:09:18,240 --> 08:09:20,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: under Executive Order No. 125, 6116 08:09:20,240 --> 08:09:23,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: as amended by Executive Order 47. 6117 08:09:23,240 --> 08:09:28,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: This is the Commission's principal statutory mandate. 6118 08:09:28,240 --> 08:09:32,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The application period for the four amnesty proclamations 6119 08:09:32,240 --> 08:09:37,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ran from March 2024 until March 2026. 6120 08:09:37,240 --> 08:09:41,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yet, based on the Commission's reported figures, 6121 08:09:41,240 --> 08:09:45,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: only 20 applicants have been granted amnesty 6122 08:09:45,240 --> 08:09:47,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by the close of the application period, 6123 08:09:47,240 --> 08:09:49,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: out of approximately 16,000 applicants. 6124 08:09:49,240 --> 08:10:01,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: This is equivalent to only 0.1232% of applications received. 6125 08:10:01,240 --> 08:10:05,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How does the Commission justify this level of output 6126 08:10:05,240 --> 08:10:09,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: after two full years of implementation? 6127 08:10:09,240 --> 08:10:14,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: More importantly, how many of the 16,230 applications 6128 08:10:14,240 --> 08:10:17,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: have actually been fully evaluated and resolved? 6129 08:10:17,240 --> 08:10:22,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Whether approved, denied, or otherwise disposed of? 6130 08:10:22,240 --> 08:10:31,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And how many remain pending? 6131 08:10:31,240 --> 08:10:38,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 6132 08:10:38,240 --> 08:10:44,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: There were several factors that affect this and reasons. 6133 08:10:44,240 --> 08:10:46,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Number one, the incomplete submitted documents. 6134 08:10:46,240 --> 08:10:51,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Many applications lack documents necessary 6135 08:10:51,240 --> 08:10:54,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the complete review of the amnesty application. 6136 08:10:54,240 --> 08:10:58,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Requiring them to submit lacking documents 6137 08:10:58,240 --> 08:11:03,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is challenging due to logistical and financial concerns, 6138 08:11:03,240 --> 08:11:08,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as well as reluctance of other agencies to coordinate. 6139 08:11:08,240 --> 08:11:14,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: NAC response: continuous streamlining and simplification 6140 08:11:14,240 --> 08:11:19,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of process, determining which documentary requirements 6141 08:11:19,240 --> 08:11:21,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: can be dispensed with. 6142 08:11:21,240 --> 08:11:26,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Number two, unresponsive and uncooperative agencies. 6143 08:11:26,240 --> 08:11:29,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Some agencies are not familiar with the NAC. 6144 08:11:29,240 --> 08:11:33,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Some are reluctant to share documents with the NAC. 6145 08:11:33,240 --> 08:11:39,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Some use the Data Privacy Act to refuse NAC access 6146 08:11:39,240 --> 08:11:42,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to requested documents. 6147 08:11:42,240 --> 08:11:47,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Continuous engagement with these agencies 6148 08:11:47,240 --> 08:11:50,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to make NAC known to them. 6149 08:11:50,240 --> 08:11:53,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Orientations on the mandate of the NAC, 6150 08:11:53,240 --> 08:11:57,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: reiteration that the request for documents 6151 08:11:57,240 --> 08:12:00,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is pursuant to NAC's mandate, 6152 08:12:00,240 --> 08:12:04,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: making it official function. 6153 08:12:04,240 --> 08:12:08,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Number three, difficulty in declaring a quorum 6154 08:12:08,240 --> 08:12:10,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for lab members. 6155 08:12:10,240 --> 08:12:13,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Many amnesty applications need to undergo 6156 08:12:13,240 --> 08:12:16,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: a case conference by lab members. 6157 08:12:16,240 --> 08:12:18,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Each lab has five members, 6158 08:12:18,240 --> 08:12:21,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: which a quorum fixed at three members 6159 08:12:21,240 --> 08:12:24,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to formally constitute a body. 6160 08:12:24,240 --> 08:12:27,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: These lab members are employed primarily 6161 08:12:27,240 --> 08:12:29,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in different offices. 6162 08:12:29,240 --> 08:12:33,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thus, their schedules are usually difficult to manage, 6163 08:12:33,240 --> 08:12:37,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: resulting in regular meetings. 6164 08:12:37,240 --> 08:12:40,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ensuring honoraria are released 6165 08:12:40,240 --> 08:12:42,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in a timely manner. 6166 08:12:42,240 --> 08:12:45,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Proper coordination and engagement 6167 08:12:45,240 --> 08:12:46,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with the lab members, 6168 08:12:46,240 --> 08:12:49,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: capacitating lab secretariat 6169 08:12:49,240 --> 08:12:53,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: on how to coordinate better with lab members. 6170 08:12:53,240 --> 08:12:57,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Number four, different review process. 6171 08:12:57,240 --> 08:13:01,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Review process by the ex-official members 6172 08:13:01,240 --> 08:13:05,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: involve a separate and independent process 6173 08:13:05,240 --> 08:13:07,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and standard. 6174 08:13:07,240 --> 08:13:09,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This takes up time. 6175 08:13:09,240 --> 08:13:13,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It takes up time that is not within the process 6176 08:13:13,240 --> 08:13:17,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that can be controlled by NAC. 6177 08:13:17,240 --> 08:13:23,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: NAC response is to continue coordination, 6178 08:13:23,240 --> 08:13:25,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: streamlining of process, 6179 08:13:25,240 --> 08:13:27,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: regular process check, 6180 08:13:27,240 --> 08:13:30,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and technical working group meetings. 6181 08:13:30,240 --> 08:13:32,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Designation of personnel 6182 08:13:32,240 --> 08:13:35,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to specifically follow up 6183 08:13:35,240 --> 08:13:39,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with each ex-official member. 6184 08:13:39,240 --> 08:13:43,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Number five, low manpower. 6185 08:13:43,240 --> 08:13:47,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: With the postponement of hiring of COS 6186 08:13:47,240 --> 08:13:50,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: imposed by civil service, 6187 08:13:50,240 --> 08:13:57,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the NAC operates with its limited manpower. 6188 08:13:57,240 --> 08:14:00,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: With the surge of the amnesty application 6189 08:14:00,240 --> 08:14:03,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: received corresponding increase in manpower 6190 08:14:03,240 --> 08:14:08,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to who will process this amnesty application. 6191 08:14:08,240 --> 08:14:10,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Necessary. 6192 08:14:10,240 --> 08:14:12,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The response of NAC. 6193 08:14:12,240 --> 08:14:16,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Letter request sent to COA DBM 6194 08:14:16,240 --> 08:14:19,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and civil service for an exemption. 6195 08:14:19,240 --> 08:14:22,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Streamlining of process to simplify 6196 08:14:22,240 --> 08:14:26,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: or shorten process for faster processing. 6197 08:14:26,240 --> 08:14:29,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Continuous capacity building 6198 08:14:29,240 --> 08:14:31,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and process checking. 6199 08:14:31,240 --> 08:14:35,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Commitment to deliver NAC mandate 6200 08:14:35,240 --> 08:14:37,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and digitalization. 6201 08:14:37,240 --> 08:14:40,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you. 6202 08:14:40,240 --> 08:14:41,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, 6203 08:14:41,240 --> 08:14:42,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, 6204 08:14:42,240 --> 08:14:45,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Distinguished Sponsor. 6205 08:14:45,240 --> 08:14:47,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Record shows that 6206 08:14:47,240 --> 08:14:50,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there are currently 16,230 pending applicants 6207 08:14:50,240 --> 08:14:52,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for amnesty. 6208 08:14:52,240 --> 08:14:55,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yet the data indicates that only 6209 08:14:55,240 --> 08:14:57,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 20 applications have been approved 6210 08:14:57,240 --> 08:14:59,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: over the past three years. 6211 08:14:59,240 --> 08:15:00,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So we're 6212 08:15:00,000 --> 08:15:02,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: just averaging 7 applicants 6213 08:15:02,000 --> 08:15:04,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: per year. It will 6214 08:15:04,060 --> 08:15:05,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: take the commission over 6215 08:15:05,840 --> 08:15:07,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: two millennia to clear 6216 08:15:07,760 --> 08:15:09,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the existing backlog. 6217 08:15:09,960 --> 08:15:11,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What concrete time-bound strategy is 6218 08:15:11,880 --> 08:15:13,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the NAC implementing to 6219 08:15:13,920 --> 08:15:16,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: accelerate the vetting approval process? 6220 08:15:16,700 --> 08:15:17,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because for the last 3 years, 6221 08:15:17,880 --> 08:15:18,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, 6222 08:15:19,220 --> 08:15:21,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 20 lang. 6223 08:15:21,800 --> 08:15:23,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So we're averaging 7 6224 08:15:23,680 --> 08:15:25,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: per year. So we have 6225 08:15:25,540 --> 08:15:27,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 16,000. So ano pong strategy 6226 08:15:27,740 --> 08:15:29,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ang gagawin natin para po 6227 08:15:29,540 --> 08:15:31,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: mapabilis itong 6228 08:15:31,180 --> 08:15:33,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: mga nag-apply po ng amnesty? 6229 08:15:34,940 --> 08:15:35,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Well, 6230 08:15:35,900 --> 08:15:37,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: right now, 3,000 6231 08:15:37,300 --> 08:15:39,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: result of the amnesty 6232 08:15:39,460 --> 08:15:42,980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is 3,166. 6233 08:15:43,620 --> 08:15:44,820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished colleague. 6234 08:15:46,260 --> 08:15:47,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So maliho yung 6235 08:15:47,380 --> 08:15:49,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 20 for the last 3 years? 6236 08:15:54,960 --> 08:15:55,680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Actually, 6237 08:15:55,920 --> 08:15:56,980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the 20 6238 08:15:56,980 --> 08:15:59,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is already granted by the President. 6239 08:15:59,540 --> 08:16:01,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, for the last 3 years. 6240 08:16:03,820 --> 08:16:04,320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: In fact, 6241 08:16:05,780 --> 08:16:07,420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: office of the, I'm sorry, 6242 08:16:07,540 --> 08:16:09,140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: but it's office of the President, 6243 08:16:09,740 --> 08:16:11,500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 25, 25 6244 08:16:11,500 --> 08:16:12,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: distinguished colleague. 6245 08:16:14,260 --> 08:16:15,520 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And as 6246 08:16:15,520 --> 08:16:17,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: earlier also as I've mentioned, 6247 08:16:18,060 --> 08:16:19,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: those 5 factors 6248 08:16:19,540 --> 08:16:21,700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that can make it 6249 08:16:21,700 --> 08:16:22,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: faster 6250 08:16:22,480 --> 08:16:25,360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the processing 6251 08:16:25,360 --> 08:16:26,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of the application. 6252 08:16:26,480 --> 08:16:27,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 6253 08:16:28,080 --> 08:16:29,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So in the next, 6254 08:16:29,540 --> 08:16:31,040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: few years ba, makikita natin, 6255 08:16:31,180 --> 08:16:31,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it will, 6256 08:16:32,860 --> 08:16:35,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: we will granted more 6257 08:16:35,140 --> 08:16:37,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: amnesty aside from 6258 08:16:37,360 --> 08:16:39,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the 20 na na-mention. Bibilis ho ba ito? 6259 08:16:39,580 --> 08:16:41,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So ano ba yung proseso na gagawin nyo 6260 08:16:41,460 --> 08:16:43,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: para mapabilis? Everything has been 6261 08:16:43,540 --> 08:16:44,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: vetted, right? 6262 08:16:45,820 --> 08:16:47,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Tomorrow, there will be a right shop. 6263 08:16:48,180 --> 08:16:48,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay. 6264 08:16:48,700 --> 08:16:49,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Especially 6265 08:16:49,080 --> 08:16:51,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: if the budget for NAC will be 6266 08:16:51,440 --> 08:16:52,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: approved tonight. 6267 08:16:53,220 --> 08:16:55,560 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you very much, Speaker. Distinguished colleague. 6268 08:16:56,080 --> 08:16:57,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you very much, Speaker. Of course, 6269 08:16:57,820 --> 08:16:59,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to the Distinguished Honor, 6270 08:16:59,540 --> 08:17:01,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sponsor na isa nating 6271 08:17:01,620 --> 08:17:04,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: inidulo. So I don't want to give 6272 08:17:04,020 --> 08:17:05,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: you hard time because it's very active 6273 08:17:05,880 --> 08:17:07,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: here. There being no, Mr. Speaker, 6274 08:17:08,120 --> 08:17:09,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no members 6275 08:17:09,640 --> 08:17:11,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the minority who wishes 6276 08:17:11,520 --> 08:17:13,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to interpellate, 6277 08:17:14,340 --> 08:17:15,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate 6278 08:17:15,520 --> 08:17:18,040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the sponsorship and debate 6279 08:17:18,040 --> 08:17:19,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the budget of National 6280 08:17:19,880 --> 08:17:21,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Amnesty Commission. 6281 08:17:21,860 --> 08:17:22,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Mr. Speaker. 6282 08:17:23,640 --> 08:17:24,620 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: What does the House say? 6283 08:17:25,840 --> 08:17:27,940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 6284 08:17:28,120 --> 08:17:29,180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I would like to thank the 6285 08:17:29,540 --> 08:17:31,000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: my colleagues, 6286 08:17:31,220 --> 08:17:33,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: distinguished colleagues here 6287 08:17:33,960 --> 08:17:36,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the House, both the minority 6288 08:17:36,080 --> 08:17:37,500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and the majority. Thank you. 6289 08:17:39,600 --> 08:17:40,840 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: What does the House say? 6290 08:17:41,720 --> 08:17:44,020 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, 6291 08:17:44,340 --> 08:17:46,180 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: we join the minority in the motion 6292 08:17:46,180 --> 08:17:48,120 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: to terminate the period 6293 08:17:48,120 --> 08:17:49,200 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: of interpellation 6294 08:17:49,200 --> 08:17:51,980 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: on the budget of the 6295 08:17:51,980 --> 08:17:54,100 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: National 6296 08:17:54,100 --> 08:17:55,100 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Amnesty Commission. 6297 08:17:56,300 --> 08:17:58,340 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a joint motion to terminate 6298 08:17:58,340 --> 08:17:59,480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: the interpellation on the 6299 08:17:59,540 --> 08:18:01,620 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: proposed budget for the 6300 08:18:01,620 --> 08:18:03,160 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: National Amnesty Commission. 6301 08:18:03,640 --> 08:18:05,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There any objection? Chair, 6302 08:18:05,580 --> 08:18:07,600 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: hearing none. The interpellation 6303 08:18:07,600 --> 08:18:09,440 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: on the proposed budget 6304 08:18:09,440 --> 08:18:11,660 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of the National Amnesty 6305 08:18:11,660 --> 08:18:13,440 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Commission is 6306 08:18:13,440 --> 08:18:14,520 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: terminated. 6307 08:18:17,220 --> 08:18:18,180 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. 6308 08:18:19,980 --> 08:18:21,060 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, 6309 08:18:21,380 --> 08:18:23,600 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: I move to suspend for a few minutes. 6310 08:18:23,740 --> 08:18:24,480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session suspended. 6311 08:18:27,620 --> 08:18:28,840 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Congrats, Joboy. 6312 08:21:17,540 --> 08:21:19,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session resumed. 6313 08:21:19,540 --> 08:21:21,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. 6314 08:21:23,540 --> 08:21:25,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mr. Speaker, 6315 08:21:25,540 --> 08:21:27,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: I move to consider the proposed 6316 08:21:27,540 --> 08:21:29,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: budget of the 6317 08:21:29,540 --> 08:21:31,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Office of the Presidential Advisor 6318 08:21:31,540 --> 08:21:33,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: on Peace, Reconciliation, and Unity. 6319 08:21:35,540 --> 08:21:37,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a motion to consider the budget 6320 08:21:37,540 --> 08:21:39,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of the Office of the Presidential Advisor 6321 08:21:39,540 --> 08:21:41,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: on Peace, 6322 08:21:41,540 --> 08:21:43,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Reconciliation, and Unity. 6323 08:21:43,540 --> 08:21:45,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is no objection. 6324 08:21:45,540 --> 08:21:47,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Motion is carried. Majority Leader. 6325 08:21:47,540 --> 08:21:49,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mr. Speaker, 6326 08:21:49,540 --> 08:21:51,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: may we acknowledge the heads 6327 08:21:51,540 --> 08:21:53,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: and officials of the 6328 08:21:53,540 --> 08:21:55,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Office of the Presidential Advisor 6329 08:21:55,540 --> 08:21:57,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: on Peace, Reconciliation, and Unity, 6330 08:21:57,540 --> 08:21:59,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: namely, 6331 08:21:59,540 --> 08:22:01,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mel Senen Sarmiento, 6332 08:22:01,540 --> 08:22:03,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Yusec 6333 08:22:03,540 --> 08:22:05,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Hefer Refamonte 6334 08:22:05,540 --> 08:22:07,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mancol, 6335 08:22:07,540 --> 08:22:09,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Yusec Wilben 6336 08:22:09,540 --> 08:22:11,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mayor, 6337 08:22:11,540 --> 08:22:13,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Yusec Noel Alvarez 6338 08:22:13,540 --> 08:22:15,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Baraceros, 6339 08:22:15,540 --> 08:22:17,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Asec Mary Marjorie Martin 6340 08:22:17,540 --> 08:22:19,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Chan, and 6341 08:22:19,540 --> 08:22:21,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Asec Andres S. Aguinaldo, Jr. 6342 08:22:23,540 --> 08:22:25,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: To the heads of 6343 08:22:25,540 --> 08:22:27,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: the Office of the 6344 08:22:27,540 --> 08:22:29,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Presidential 6345 08:22:29,540 --> 08:22:31,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Advisor on Peace, 6346 08:22:31,540 --> 08:22:33,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Reconciliation, and Unity, 6347 08:22:33,540 --> 08:22:35,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: namely, a colleague, 6348 08:22:35,540 --> 08:22:37,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: former Secretary Mel 6349 08:22:37,540 --> 08:22:39,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Senen Sarmiento, 6350 08:22:39,540 --> 08:22:41,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Yusec Hefer Refamonte 6351 08:22:41,540 --> 08:22:43,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Mancol, Yusec Winbel 6352 08:22:43,540 --> 08:22:45,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Mayor, Yusec Noel 6353 08:22:45,540 --> 08:22:47,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Alvarez Baraceros, 6354 08:22:47,540 --> 08:22:49,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Asec Mary Marjorie Martin Chan, 6355 08:22:49,540 --> 08:22:51,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Asec Andres S. Aguinaldo, Jr. 6356 08:22:51,540 --> 08:22:53,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: In behalf of Speaker 6357 08:22:53,540 --> 08:22:55,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Bojie Dy and Majority Leader 6358 08:22:55,540 --> 08:22:57,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Sandro Marcos, welcome to the House of Representatives. 6359 08:22:57,540 --> 08:22:59,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. 6360 08:22:59,540 --> 08:23:01,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I 6361 08:23:01,540 --> 08:23:03,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: move that we open the period 6362 08:23:03,540 --> 08:23:05,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of sponsorship and debate 6363 08:23:05,540 --> 08:23:07,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: and accordingly 6364 08:23:07,540 --> 08:23:09,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: we recognize 6365 08:23:09,540 --> 08:23:11,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: the Vice Chairman of 6366 08:23:11,540 --> 08:23:13,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: the Committee on Appropriation, 6367 08:23:13,540 --> 08:23:15,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: the Honorable Jose Joboy 6368 08:23:15,540 --> 08:23:17,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Aquino of the Lone District 6369 08:23:17,540 --> 08:23:19,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of Butuan to sponsor 6370 08:23:19,540 --> 08:23:21,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: the proposed budget. 6371 08:23:21,540 --> 08:23:23,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentleman from the Lone District 6372 08:23:23,540 --> 08:23:25,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of Butuan, Vice Chair Joboy 6373 08:23:25,540 --> 08:23:27,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Aquino. Sir, 6374 08:23:27,540 --> 08:23:29,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: you have the floor. 6375 08:23:29,540 --> 08:23:31,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 6376 08:23:31,540 --> 08:23:33,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Mr. Speaker, distinguished 6377 08:23:33,540 --> 08:23:35,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: colleagues, I rise 6378 08:23:35,540 --> 08:23:37,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to sponsor the proposed fiscal 6379 08:23:37,540 --> 08:23:39,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: year 2027 6380 08:23:39,540 --> 08:23:41,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: budget 6381 08:23:41,540 --> 08:23:43,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of the Office of the Presidential 6382 08:23:43,540 --> 08:23:45,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Advisor on Peace, 6383 08:23:45,540 --> 08:23:47,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Reconciliation, and 6384 08:23:47,540 --> 08:23:49,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Unity, amounting 6385 08:23:49,540 --> 08:23:51,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to 9.3 billion. 6386 08:23:51,540 --> 08:23:53,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The OPAPRU 6387 08:23:53,540 --> 08:23:55,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as the government's lead agency 6388 08:23:55,540 --> 08:23:57,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the coordination and 6389 08:23:57,540 --> 08:23:59,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: implementation of the 6390 08:23:59,540 --> 08:24:01,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: comprehensive peace process. 6391 08:24:01,540 --> 08:24:03,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It plays a 6392 08:24:03,540 --> 08:24:05,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: vital role in advancing 6393 08:24:05,540 --> 08:24:07,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the government's peace 6394 08:24:07,540 --> 08:24:09,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: agenda by facilitating 6395 08:24:09,540 --> 08:24:11,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the implementation of 6396 08:24:11,540 --> 08:24:13,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace agreements, 6397 08:24:13,540 --> 08:24:15,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace agenda by facilitating 6398 08:24:15,540 --> 08:24:17,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: implementation of government's 6399 08:24:17,540 --> 08:24:19,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: agreements, 6400 08:24:19,540 --> 08:24:21,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: supporting normalization 6401 08:24:21,540 --> 08:24:23,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and reconciliation 6402 08:24:23,540 --> 08:24:25,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: initiatives, and coordinating 6403 08:24:25,540 --> 08:24:27,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: development interventions 6404 08:24:27,540 --> 08:24:29,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in conflict of 6405 08:24:29,540 --> 08:24:31,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: affected and conflict 6406 08:24:31,540 --> 08:24:33,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: vulnerable communities. 6407 08:24:33,540 --> 08:24:35,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Its mandate 6408 08:24:35,540 --> 08:24:37,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is particularly 6409 08:24:37,540 --> 08:24:39,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: significant in sustaining 6410 08:24:39,540 --> 08:24:41,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the gains of the peace 6411 08:24:41,540 --> 08:24:43,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: process with various 6412 08:24:43,540 --> 08:24:45,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: stakeholders and translating 6413 08:24:45,540 --> 08:24:47,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace agreements into 6414 08:24:47,540 --> 08:24:49,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: concrete programs 6415 08:24:49,540 --> 08:24:51,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that improve the lives 6416 08:24:51,540 --> 08:24:53,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and prospects of the 6417 08:24:53,540 --> 08:24:55,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: communities that have 6418 08:24:55,540 --> 08:24:57,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: experienced 6419 08:24:57,540 --> 08:24:59,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: conflict. 6420 08:24:59,540 --> 08:25:01,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: As we deliberate on the 6421 08:25:01,540 --> 08:25:03,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: fiscal year 2027 budget 6422 08:25:03,540 --> 08:25:05,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of the OPAPRU, we 6423 08:25:05,540 --> 08:25:07,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: recognize that sustaining 6424 08:25:07,540 --> 08:25:09,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace requires more 6425 08:25:09,540 --> 08:25:11,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: than conclusion agreements. 6426 08:25:11,540 --> 08:25:13,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It requires 6427 08:25:13,540 --> 08:25:15,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: consistent implementation, 6428 08:25:15,540 --> 08:25:17,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: meaningful 6429 08:25:17,540 --> 08:25:19,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: community engagement, 6430 08:25:19,540 --> 08:25:21,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and investment that 6431 08:25:21,540 --> 08:25:23,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: address the socio-economic 6432 08:25:23,540 --> 08:25:25,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: conditions that 6433 08:25:25,540 --> 08:25:27,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: underpin lasting 6434 08:25:27,540 --> 08:25:29,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace. 6435 08:25:29,540 --> 08:25:31,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The proposed budget must 6436 08:25:31,540 --> 08:25:33,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: therefore support the effective 6437 08:25:33,540 --> 08:25:35,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: implementation of peace and 6438 08:25:35,540 --> 08:25:37,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: normalization programs 6439 08:25:37,540 --> 08:25:39,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: including development, 6440 08:25:39,540 --> 08:25:41,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: interventions 6441 08:25:41,540 --> 08:25:43,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in conflict 6442 08:25:43,540 --> 08:25:45,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: affected areas 6443 08:25:45,540 --> 08:25:47,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: while ensuring 6444 08:25:47,540 --> 08:25:49,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: transparency, 6445 08:25:49,540 --> 08:25:51,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: accountability, and 6446 08:25:51,540 --> 08:25:53,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: measurable results 6447 08:25:53,540 --> 08:25:55,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the spirit of a 6448 08:25:55,540 --> 08:25:57,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: people-centered and 6449 08:25:57,540 --> 08:25:59,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: inclusive 6450 08:25:59,540 --> 08:26:01,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: national budget. 6451 08:26:01,540 --> 08:26:03,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I respectfully 6452 08:26:03,540 --> 08:26:05,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: present 6453 08:26:05,540 --> 08:26:07,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the proposed fiscal year 6454 08:26:07,540 --> 08:26:09,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 2027 budget 6455 08:26:09,540 --> 08:26:11,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of the OPAPRU 6456 08:26:11,540 --> 08:26:13,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the consideration 6457 08:26:13,540 --> 08:26:15,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of this honorable chamber. 6458 08:26:15,540 --> 08:26:17,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 6459 08:26:17,540 --> 08:26:19,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This representation 6460 08:26:19,540 --> 08:26:21,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is now ready to answer 6461 08:26:21,540 --> 08:26:23,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: questions from our colleagues. 6462 08:26:23,540 --> 08:26:25,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Salamat, Congressman 6463 08:26:25,540 --> 08:26:27,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Joboy Aquino, Majority Leader. 6464 08:26:27,540 --> 08:26:29,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mr. Speaker, 6465 08:26:29,540 --> 08:26:31,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: to start the interpellation 6466 08:26:31,540 --> 08:26:33,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the proposed budget, 6467 08:26:33,540 --> 08:26:35,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: I move to recognize 6468 08:26:35,540 --> 08:26:37,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Representative Elijah R. 6469 08:26:37,540 --> 08:26:39,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: San Fernando of the 6470 08:26:39,540 --> 08:26:41,540 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Kamangagawa Party List. 6471 08:26:43,540 --> 08:26:45,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Representative from the Kamangagawa 6472 08:26:45,540 --> 08:26:47,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Party List, 6473 08:26:47,540 --> 08:26:49,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Honorable Elijah San Fernando, 6474 08:26:49,540 --> 08:26:51,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Sir, you are recognized 6475 08:26:51,540 --> 08:26:53,540 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: to interpellate the sponsor. 6476 08:26:53,540 --> 08:26:55,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Salamat po, Mr. Speaker, at sa ating butihing 6477 08:26:55,540 --> 08:26:57,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sponsor. Una, 6478 08:26:57,540 --> 08:26:59,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ikinatutuwa po ng 6479 08:26:59,540 --> 08:27:01,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kinatawang ito at ng mga 6480 08:27:01,540 --> 08:27:03,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: peace advocates na sa wakas 6481 08:27:03,540 --> 08:27:05,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay meron na po tayong bagong 6482 08:27:05,540 --> 08:27:07,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: presidential advisor on peace 6483 08:27:07,540 --> 08:27:09,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: reconciliation and unity 6484 08:27:09,540 --> 08:27:11,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa katauhan po ni Sekretary 6485 08:27:11,540 --> 08:27:13,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mel Sarmiento. At ngayong araw po ay 6486 08:27:13,540 --> 08:27:15,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ginugunitan natin ang 6487 08:27:15,540 --> 08:27:17,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pandaigdigang araw ng kapayapaan, 6488 08:27:17,540 --> 08:27:19,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: International Day of Peace. 6489 08:27:19,540 --> 08:27:21,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Meron lang po ilang mga katanungan 6490 08:27:21,540 --> 08:27:23,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hinggil po sa budget 6491 08:27:23,540 --> 08:27:25,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng OPAPRO. 6492 08:27:25,540 --> 08:27:27,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, 6493 08:27:27,540 --> 08:27:29,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, nangihingi 6494 08:27:29,540 --> 08:27:31,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng dagdag 6495 08:27:31,540 --> 08:27:33,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 1.171 6496 08:27:33,540 --> 08:27:35,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: billion pesos o 6497 08:27:35,540 --> 08:27:37,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 14.4% 6498 08:27:37,540 --> 08:27:39,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: increase 6499 08:27:39,540 --> 08:27:41,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa budget ang OPAPRO. 6500 08:27:41,540 --> 08:27:43,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero sa 6501 08:27:43,540 --> 08:27:45,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: performance indicators, 6502 08:27:45,540 --> 08:27:47,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nananatiling 6503 08:27:47,540 --> 08:27:49,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: parehas ang 6504 08:27:49,540 --> 08:27:51,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ilang targets. 6505 08:27:51,540 --> 08:27:53,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Alimbawa po, 6506 08:27:53,540 --> 08:27:55,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa Annex on Normalization, 6507 08:27:55,540 --> 08:27:57,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 20%, 6508 08:27:57,540 --> 08:27:59,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for the next year, 20%. 6509 08:27:59,540 --> 08:28:01,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: For the current year. 6510 08:28:01,540 --> 08:28:03,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos sa final peace agreements, 6511 08:28:03,540 --> 08:28:05,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 70%. Parehas din po ito. 6512 08:28:07,540 --> 08:28:09,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano po exactly ang pinupondohan 6513 08:28:09,540 --> 08:28:11,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: natin? 6514 08:28:11,540 --> 08:28:13,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Bakit pataas ang 6515 08:28:13,540 --> 08:28:15,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: requested budget 6516 08:28:15,540 --> 08:28:17,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pero walang significant 6517 08:28:17,540 --> 08:28:19,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: improvement sa outcomes, 6518 08:28:19,540 --> 08:28:21,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor? 6519 08:28:57,540 --> 08:28:59,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, distinguished colleague. 6520 08:29:02,380 --> 08:29:03,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Well, way back 6521 08:29:03,480 --> 08:29:04,500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in 2025, 6522 08:29:06,500 --> 08:29:07,420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: well, 6523 08:29:07,520 --> 08:29:09,160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: it's true that there was a 6524 08:29:09,160 --> 08:29:10,340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: backlog. 6525 08:29:12,140 --> 08:29:12,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yeah? 6526 08:29:13,200 --> 08:29:15,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And it was because, I think, 6527 08:29:15,700 --> 08:29:17,560 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: one of the factors was 6528 08:29:17,560 --> 08:29:19,420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the BARM election. 6529 08:29:20,200 --> 08:29:21,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Now that the BARM 6530 08:29:21,540 --> 08:29:22,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: election is ready, 6531 08:29:23,620 --> 08:29:25,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: already, or finished, 6532 08:29:25,460 --> 08:29:26,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: or materialized, 6533 08:29:26,280 --> 08:29:28,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: come 2026, 6534 08:29:28,820 --> 08:29:29,740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: there's already a 6535 08:29:29,740 --> 08:29:31,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: increase in target. 6536 08:29:32,500 --> 08:29:34,140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It's like 6537 08:29:34,140 --> 08:29:36,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 67% 6538 08:29:36,980 --> 08:29:37,340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with 6539 08:29:37,340 --> 08:29:38,740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: MALF. 6540 08:29:39,800 --> 08:29:41,900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And with MLF, 6541 08:29:42,180 --> 08:29:43,860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the MNLF 6542 08:29:43,860 --> 08:29:46,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is going to be 70%. 6543 08:29:47,120 --> 08:29:48,160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So, August 6544 08:29:48,160 --> 08:29:49,760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 31, 2026, 6545 08:29:50,280 --> 08:29:52,100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with RPA, it's 6546 08:29:52,100 --> 08:29:53,500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 84%. 6547 08:29:53,500 --> 08:29:55,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And with CPL, 6548 08:29:55,480 --> 08:29:55,800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: a 6549 08:29:55,800 --> 08:29:56,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 90% 6550 08:29:56,280 --> 08:29:57,420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 91%. 6551 08:29:57,420 --> 08:30:00,160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Overall, 6552 08:30:00,160 --> 08:30:00,718 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: OPAPRU 6553 08:30:00,718 --> 08:30:09,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: has already achieved 71.4% of its peace agreement commitment with the following breakdown. 6554 08:30:10,440 --> 08:30:15,860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Program 1, GPH-MILF peace process, 67%. 6555 08:30:15,860 --> 08:30:20,980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Program 2, GPH-MNLF peace process, 43%. 6556 08:30:20,980 --> 08:30:27,820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Program 4, GPH-CBA-CPLA peace process, 91%. 6557 08:30:27,820 --> 08:30:37,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Program 4, GPH-RPM-PRPA-ABB peace process, 84.6%. 6558 08:30:37,840 --> 08:30:43,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Babalikan po natin yan, Mr. Sponsor, yung katanungan dyan. 6559 08:30:44,220 --> 08:30:51,700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Dito po sa National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security. 6560 08:30:52,420 --> 08:30:57,660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Noong 2025, ang target po ng OPAPRO ay, 6561 08:30:57,820 --> 08:31:04,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 600 WPS beneficiaries and 20 localized implementation. 6562 08:31:05,640 --> 08:31:10,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos sa output, lumalabas po 3,227. 6563 08:31:10,000 --> 08:31:12,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And out of the 600 target na beneficiaries, 6564 08:31:13,720 --> 08:31:20,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang output ay 3,227 beneficiaries and 43 localized implementation. 6565 08:31:20,400 --> 08:31:23,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Out of the target of 20 na localized implementation. 6566 08:31:24,260 --> 08:31:26,600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ngayon, for 2027, 6567 08:31:26,600 --> 08:31:33,180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang target po ng OPAPRO ay 650 and 20 respectively. 6568 08:31:33,860 --> 08:31:36,300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So this is kind of weird, Mr. Sponsor, 6569 08:31:36,780 --> 08:31:42,600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasi bakit po yung target ngayon for fiscal year 2027 6570 08:31:42,600 --> 08:31:47,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay mas mababa compared to the actual accomplishment. 6571 08:31:48,100 --> 08:31:50,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The question, Mr. Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, 6572 08:31:51,220 --> 08:31:56,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ano po ba yung sa universe po ng targets ng OPAPRO? 6573 08:31:56,600 --> 08:31:58,600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano ba talaga yung tinatarget? 6574 08:31:59,280 --> 08:32:02,820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Particularly on National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security. 6575 08:32:03,460 --> 08:32:05,700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi kung titignan natin, Mr. Sponsor, 6576 08:32:06,680 --> 08:32:12,720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 2025, target, 600 beneficiaries, lagpas-lagpas. 6577 08:32:13,460 --> 08:32:16,640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And then come 2027, nire-request ngayon ng OPAPRO, 6578 08:32:17,280 --> 08:32:19,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 600 yung target. 6579 08:32:19,520 --> 08:32:23,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So in the universe of targets, ano ba yung target na pinag-uusapan natin, Mr. Sponsor? 6580 08:32:24,480 --> 08:32:25,160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes. 6581 08:32:26,600 --> 08:32:31,780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Honorable Colleague, if I may please explain first, 6582 08:32:32,400 --> 08:32:41,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: just like to explain about this National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security 6583 08:32:41,280 --> 08:32:48,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and its localization is 2023 to 2033. 6584 08:32:48,840 --> 08:32:55,780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It's being localized through trainings, civil society collaboration, and integration, 6585 08:32:56,600 --> 08:33:05,600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of women's peace and security into plans, budgets, and leadership programs. 6586 08:33:06,280 --> 08:33:15,360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Women's participation expanding in recovery, psychosocial services, and reintegration, 6587 08:33:15,360 --> 08:33:24,720 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: while academic and local partners strengthen leadership capacity through joint action 6588 08:33:24,720 --> 08:33:26,360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with other and other. 6589 08:33:26,600 --> 08:33:35,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And as CWPS members, member agencies, such as DOH, DSWD, and TESDA. 6590 08:33:36,280 --> 08:33:48,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Persistent gaps include limited data, uneven policy support, and weak integration across programs. 6591 08:33:48,460 --> 08:33:55,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Recognizing this, National NAPWPS Dashboard, 6592 08:33:56,600 --> 08:34:05,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: was developed with the DICT, which is set to be public by the end of 2026. 6593 08:34:05,280 --> 08:34:11,140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Localization and capacity development for LGUs are underway 6594 08:34:11,140 --> 08:34:14,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in 18 provinces nationwide, 6595 08:34:14,960 --> 08:34:19,720 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with varying status of development. 6596 08:34:20,620 --> 08:34:23,340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Protection and mainstreaming efforts 6597 08:34:23,360 --> 08:34:28,160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: provide vulnerable women and girls with social support, 6598 08:34:28,160 --> 08:34:34,360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: education, health services and inclusion in policy frameworks. 6599 08:34:34,360 --> 08:34:56,780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Advocacy platforms like CHEDS, SGPCWs, Tinig ng Kababaihan, and Consultation Amplify, WPS Perspectives, Resource Constraints, Institutional Resistance, and Weak Accountability 6600 08:34:56,780 --> 08:35:03,920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: We highlight the need for sustained investment and strong buy-in. 6601 08:35:04,320 --> 08:35:18,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, to save time, makikihingi na lang po ang kinatawang ito ng yung targets po, yung binabanggit niyo po kanina, on National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security. 6602 08:35:18,620 --> 08:35:23,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: If this can be furnished to my office para po makita natin, would that be okay to the OPA Pro? 6603 08:35:24,920 --> 08:35:26,460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, of course. 6604 08:35:26,780 --> 08:35:30,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sponsor. 6605 08:35:30,700 --> 08:35:31,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you. 6606 08:35:31,100 --> 08:35:43,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Balikan ko po yung punto ko kanina doon sa hinihinging budget at doon sa outcome indicators, performance indicators ng OPA Pro. 6607 08:35:44,460 --> 08:35:47,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Doon sa normalization track kasi merong mga major component yan. 6608 08:35:48,520 --> 08:35:56,600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Security, socioeconomic development, confidence building, transitional justice, and reconciliation. 6609 08:35:56,780 --> 08:36:11,740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya po yung tanong ko kanina, humihingi o nagre-request ang OPA Pro ng mas mataas na budget, but the targets remain the same. 6610 08:36:12,940 --> 08:36:23,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, bakit nagre-request ng mas papalaking budget ang OPA Pro pero yung targets ay hindi gumagalaw? 6611 08:36:23,060 --> 08:36:26,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, if we're going to take a look into the... 6612 08:36:26,780 --> 08:36:31,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Outcome indicators, almost the same since 2022. 6613 08:36:31,800 --> 08:36:46,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 16% 2022, 20% 2024, 20% 2025, 20% ulit 2026, and you are targeting 20% for 2027. 6614 08:36:47,500 --> 08:36:54,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: This representation would like to be clarified on the matter, ano ba itong 20% na pinag-uusapan natin? 6615 08:36:54,960 --> 08:36:56,320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 20% of what? 6616 08:36:56,780 --> 08:37:00,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Again, the normalization track has major components. 6617 08:37:00,680 --> 08:37:03,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 20% of what ang kinukomplete natin dito? 6618 08:37:04,000 --> 08:37:07,800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And the following question to that, why is it only 20%? 6619 08:37:09,040 --> 08:37:16,560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In the general targets, but 20%, iplinakda ng 20% since the previous years, Mr. Sponsor. 6620 08:37:16,560 --> 08:37:25,660 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, Honorable Distinguished Colleague, there is a catch-up plan for the MIL. 6621 08:37:25,660 --> 08:37:25,980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 20,000. 6622 08:37:26,780 --> 08:37:37,980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: There are 40,000 MILF combatants, and 26,000. 6623 08:37:39,640 --> 08:37:47,680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: There are right now 26,145 existing, and we have 40,000 more combatants. 6624 08:37:48,200 --> 08:37:52,520 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And there is a catch-up plan that will be implemented. 6625 08:37:52,520 --> 08:37:55,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, ito po sa combatants po ito, no? 6626 08:37:56,080 --> 08:37:56,520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: For the final... 6627 08:37:56,780 --> 08:37:59,300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Phase noong decommissioning. 6628 08:37:59,480 --> 08:38:00,980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sa socio-economic plan nito. 6629 08:38:01,240 --> 08:38:02,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, decommissioning. 6630 08:38:02,580 --> 08:38:07,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya nga po, ang tanong ko, doon sa 20%, kasi maraming components yan eh. 6631 08:38:08,060 --> 08:38:09,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano ba yung tina-target ng OPA-PRO? 6632 08:38:10,420 --> 08:38:10,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Doon sa 20%? 6633 08:38:10,880 --> 08:38:11,640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Socio-economic. 6634 08:38:12,000 --> 08:38:12,680 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Socio-economic? 6635 08:38:12,940 --> 08:38:13,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes. 6636 08:38:13,500 --> 08:38:18,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, on the socio-economic provisions, doon sa normalization track, 20%. 6637 08:38:18,720 --> 08:38:24,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: What about yung other targets po, other components ng Annex of Normalization? 6638 08:38:25,500 --> 08:38:26,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano po ang target nito? 6639 08:38:26,780 --> 08:38:28,240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Very general po nakalagay. 6640 08:38:29,040 --> 08:38:32,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, 20% across all components po ba ito? 6641 08:38:33,200 --> 08:38:42,760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang pinakamalaki, kula, colleague, ay ang security, socio-economic, and my partner na security. 6642 08:38:42,760 --> 08:38:42,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Security. 6643 08:38:44,840 --> 08:38:49,180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, nasa socio-economic and security component of the normalization. 6644 08:38:50,460 --> 08:38:56,620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, pwede po bang may we request from the OPA-PRO to... 6645 08:38:56,620 --> 08:39:00,340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ano pa yung transitional justice? 6646 08:39:01,100 --> 08:39:02,660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, part din yung transitional justice. 6647 08:39:02,660 --> 08:39:14,800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, to save time, kasi hindi po malinaw yung sagot ng OPA-PRO as to the major components of the normalization track. 6648 08:39:15,320 --> 08:39:20,660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, makikihingi na lang po ng data, ang kinatawang ito, yung breakdown. 6649 08:39:21,060 --> 08:39:26,340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: How much is allocated for security, for transitional justice, reconciliation? 6650 08:39:26,620 --> 08:39:32,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi doon po sa performance indicators ng OPA-PRO, malabo eh. General as 20%. 6651 08:39:32,500 --> 08:39:40,400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And in line po sa binanggit nyo kanina, Mr. Sponsor, binanggit nyo yung doon sa decommissioning of MILF combatants. 6652 08:39:41,160 --> 08:39:51,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That is true, no? Nasa fourth and final phase, ang decommissioning involving 14,000 combatants and around 2,450 weapons. 6653 08:39:51,880 --> 08:39:56,600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: But the latest update to this, and the OPA-PRO would like to clarify, 6654 08:39:56,620 --> 08:40:03,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: clarify this matter, itinigil ito eh. Tama po ba? Itinigil itong fourth phase, Mr. Sponsor? 6655 08:40:03,540 --> 08:40:12,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Actually, 26,145 existing and there is a balance of 14,000. Makes it 40,000. 6656 08:40:12,680 --> 08:40:16,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tama, Mr. Sponsor. Nakapag-decommission na ng 26,000. 6657 08:40:16,880 --> 08:40:20,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes. 26,145. 6658 08:40:20,460 --> 08:40:23,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes. May remaining pa na 14,000. 6659 08:40:23,420 --> 08:40:23,700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes. 6660 08:40:23,700 --> 08:40:26,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ngayon, kaya po natigil itong decommissioning. 6661 08:40:26,620 --> 08:40:34,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya po natigil itong decommissioning of 14,000 MILF combatants kasi may pronouncement ang MILF. 6662 08:40:34,500 --> 08:40:37,700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, this has been issued by the Central Committee of MILF. 6663 08:40:38,480 --> 08:40:50,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, last budget deliberation, Mr. Sponsor, tinigil ito mismo ng MILF dahil hindi nila nakikitaan ng kaseryosuhan 6664 08:40:50,060 --> 08:40:56,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung Government of the Republic of the Philippines in finishing or delivering other components 6665 08:40:56,620 --> 08:40:58,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of the normalization track. 6666 08:40:58,620 --> 08:41:02,620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The question to the OPA-PRO is, what is the current status? 6667 08:41:03,200 --> 08:41:13,520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi, Mr. Sponsor, nung nakaraang budget deliberation, the MILF has already declared they are losing trust in the peace process 6668 08:41:13,520 --> 08:41:16,300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: because of the predecessor of the good secretary. 6669 08:41:16,300 --> 08:41:26,280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, they have said in many, in many, in numerous news clippings that the predecessor of the good secretary is a saboteur of peace. 6670 08:41:26,620 --> 08:41:38,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That is why, it is in their position, being the party to the peace negotiation, to stop the decommissioning of 14,000 combatants. 6671 08:41:38,140 --> 08:41:43,800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The question is, Mr. Sponsor, ano na po yung status ng pag-uusap? 6672 08:41:44,340 --> 08:41:51,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi kailangan uli ma-build yung confidence eh na makipag-usap yung other party doon sa table. 6673 08:41:52,520 --> 08:41:56,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And sadly, Mr. Sponsor, and to the good secretary, 6674 08:41:56,620 --> 08:42:05,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sadly, the predecessor of the current secretary has not addressed these grave issues and concerns 6675 08:42:05,100 --> 08:42:07,960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: as raised by the Moro Islamic Liberation Front. 6676 08:42:08,400 --> 08:42:14,340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, what is the status of this decommissioning, the fourth and final phase of decommissioning? 6677 08:42:16,340 --> 08:42:25,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, distinguished colleague, the GPH is targeting to commence phase four decommissioning in 2028. 6678 08:42:26,140 --> 08:42:26,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: However, 6679 08:42:26,620 --> 08:42:39,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the decommissioning is a joint GPH-MILF undertaking and is for further discussion and agreement between the GPH-MILF implementing panels. 6680 08:42:40,800 --> 08:42:42,120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So, may 2028 po, no? 6681 08:42:42,860 --> 08:42:45,040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 2028, tama po ba, Mr. Sponsor? 6682 08:42:45,900 --> 08:42:48,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: From September 25, no? 6683 08:42:48,380 --> 08:42:56,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: There will be a KL meeting to consider resumption of the decommissioning. 6684 08:42:56,620 --> 08:43:07,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, may, it, that's the OPAP rule confirmed through the sponsor na meron ng positive development on the matter? 6685 08:43:07,920 --> 08:43:13,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: One of the things to be discussed in Kuala Lumpur is the date for the decommissioning. 6686 08:43:26,620 --> 08:43:34,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So, also, for the information of our distinguished colleague, the OPAP head by our secretary, 6687 08:43:36,620 --> 08:43:44,100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as chair of the panel of the government, headed by our secretary, Mel Sarmento, 6688 08:43:44,380 --> 08:43:51,500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: had a very good, productive meeting with Chairman Murad in Darapanan. 6689 08:43:51,500 --> 08:43:55,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That is a very welcome development, Mr. Sponsor. 6690 08:43:55,920 --> 08:43:56,460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hearing that. 6691 08:43:56,620 --> 08:44:03,780 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: There is already a positive development regarding the peace negotiation between the GRP and the MILF. 6692 08:44:04,540 --> 08:44:13,280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Actually, ito po yung inaantay natin na sagot dahil hindi po ito in-address ng predecessor ng butihing sekretary ngayon. 6693 08:44:13,280 --> 08:44:22,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And in fact, if I can remember correctly, the predecessor of the good secretary has requested for an executive session. 6694 08:44:22,960 --> 08:44:25,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And yet, wala pong nangyari doon sa executive session. 6695 08:44:25,980 --> 08:44:38,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, maganda pong balita na binabalita po ng OPAPRU na merong productive meeting between GRP and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front through its chair, Chair Alhaj Murad. 6696 08:44:38,600 --> 08:44:52,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Makikihingi na lang po ng datos sa OPAPRU through the sponsor regarding po dito sa timetable sa pagkumpleto ng normalization and reaching the exit agreement, 6697 08:44:52,440 --> 08:44:55,800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: if that document is available. 6698 08:44:55,980 --> 08:44:56,860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor. 6699 08:44:57,740 --> 08:44:58,940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, there is. 6700 08:44:59,740 --> 08:45:00,800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished colleague. 6701 08:45:01,260 --> 08:45:02,600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: By the way, 6702 08:45:02,600 --> 08:45:07,180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: OPA-PRO is also chair of the government panel. 6703 08:45:08,160 --> 08:45:09,620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, yes, Mr. Sponsor. 6704 08:45:09,800 --> 08:45:15,160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: There are two positions of our good Secretary Sarmiento. 6705 08:45:15,620 --> 08:45:18,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you, thank you, Mr. Sponsor. 6706 08:45:18,860 --> 08:45:22,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Now, yung mga hinihingi na lang po na dokumento, Mr. Sponsor. 6707 08:45:22,760 --> 08:45:25,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, rest assured, that was... 6708 08:45:25,080 --> 08:45:28,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Moving on, dito po sa... 6709 08:45:29,340 --> 08:45:32,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Well, last year, naging malaking issue ko po ito sa OPA-PRO 6710 08:45:32,840 --> 08:45:37,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and it wasn't really answered by the previous Secretary. 6711 08:45:37,760 --> 08:45:40,640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In the PDP 2024 Midterm Update, 6712 08:45:41,780 --> 08:45:44,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the progress report, take note, this was the progress report. 6713 08:45:44,780 --> 08:45:47,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: One of the performance indicators 6714 08:45:47,880 --> 08:45:52,960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is to complete the implementation of all signed agreements. 6715 08:45:53,540 --> 08:45:55,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Take note, Mr. Sponsor. 6716 08:45:55,080 --> 08:45:58,640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That in 2024 Midterm Update of OPA-PRO, 6717 08:45:59,140 --> 08:46:02,300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: it was indicated here, green check, 6718 08:46:02,980 --> 08:46:07,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: meaning it is already fully implemented and institutionalized. 6719 08:46:08,460 --> 08:46:12,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, kiniklaim ng OPA-PRO in 2024, 6720 08:46:12,940 --> 08:46:16,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sabi nila, fully implemented and completed na itong part na to. 6721 08:46:16,620 --> 08:46:18,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Now, Mr. Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, 6722 08:46:20,200 --> 08:46:23,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in the 2025 PDP Midterm Update, 6723 08:46:23,380 --> 08:46:25,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: what was considered, 6724 08:46:25,080 --> 08:46:28,400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: as fully implemented in 2024 PDP, 6725 08:46:28,840 --> 08:46:30,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ngayon, naging dilaw na. 6726 08:46:31,260 --> 08:46:32,120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ibig sabihin, 6727 08:46:33,020 --> 08:46:35,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: partially implemented and institutionalized. 6728 08:46:36,300 --> 08:46:38,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, ang tanong dito, Mr. Sponsor, 6729 08:46:39,640 --> 08:46:42,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: bakit yung progress report ng OPA-PRO paatras? 6730 08:46:45,940 --> 08:46:49,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, there was a mistake. 6731 08:46:50,220 --> 08:46:51,120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It's admitted 6732 08:46:51,120 --> 08:46:53,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that there was a mistake 6733 08:46:53,280 --> 08:46:54,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the... 6734 08:46:55,080 --> 08:46:56,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Color. 6735 08:46:56,080 --> 08:46:57,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Color. 6736 08:46:57,080 --> 08:46:59,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Instead of yellow, 6737 08:46:59,080 --> 08:47:01,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the face here, it's a... 6738 08:47:01,080 --> 08:47:02,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Previous. 6739 08:47:06,080 --> 08:47:07,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Previous. 6740 08:47:07,080 --> 08:47:09,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, it was a mistake po, Mr. Sponsor, no? 6741 08:47:09,080 --> 08:47:10,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sabi po ng OPA-PRO. 6742 08:47:10,080 --> 08:47:12,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, 6743 08:47:12,080 --> 08:47:14,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I am really sorry, Mr. Sponsor, 6744 08:47:14,080 --> 08:47:19,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pero iba po kasi yung sagot ng OPA-PRO last budget season eh. 6745 08:47:19,080 --> 08:47:22,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sabi po ng OPA-PRO last budget season, 6746 08:47:22,080 --> 08:47:24,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi naman yan, hindi naman yan yung actual report. 6747 08:47:24,080 --> 08:47:25,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi naman yan, hindi naman yan yung actual report. 6748 08:47:25,100 --> 08:47:26,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang target namin 6749 08:47:26,080 --> 08:47:28,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: was simply a target 6750 08:47:28,080 --> 08:47:29,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and to which I responded. 6751 08:47:29,080 --> 08:47:31,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: How can it be a target 6752 08:47:31,080 --> 08:47:32,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: when it is very clear 6753 08:47:32,080 --> 08:47:34,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in the PDP midterm report 6754 08:47:34,080 --> 08:47:36,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: it is actual progress report. 6755 08:47:36,080 --> 08:47:38,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So hindi po mag-wo-work 6756 08:47:38,080 --> 08:47:42,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung ganong binabanggit ng OPA-PRO. 6757 08:47:42,080 --> 08:47:43,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: It is not simply a target, 6758 08:47:43,080 --> 08:47:46,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: it is actually, 6759 08:47:46,080 --> 08:47:48,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung iida-digest natin 6760 08:47:48,080 --> 08:47:50,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dito sa PDP report, progress report 6761 08:47:50,080 --> 08:47:52,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: regression siya. 6762 08:47:52,080 --> 08:47:54,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, which is which? 6763 08:47:54,080 --> 08:48:13,800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Honorable Distinguished Colleague, ang naging totoo nito ay yung process. Institutionalize siya before the parties agreed. That's why institutionalize. 6764 08:48:13,800 --> 08:48:23,600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: In the PDP midterm update, what is the context of completed all the implementation of peace signed agreement? 6765 08:48:26,200 --> 08:48:35,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It doesn't present that the implementation of all signed peace agreements have already been completed. 6766 08:48:35,240 --> 08:48:41,600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: But referring to the status progress of the strategy complete, 6767 08:48:41,600 --> 08:48:52,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the implementation of all signed peace agreement has fully institutionalized, not fully implemented. 6768 08:48:53,280 --> 08:48:59,420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Fully institutionalized completion of the implementation of the signed peace agreement 6769 08:48:59,420 --> 08:49:08,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: means significant milestone or substantial progress have been achieved under the signed peace agreement 6770 08:49:08,400 --> 08:49:10,900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: such as passage. 6771 08:49:11,600 --> 08:49:17,760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Of the Bangsa Organic Law under the comprehensive agreement on the Bangsa Moro 6772 08:49:17,760 --> 08:49:25,560 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as just recently the successful conduct and completion of the first BARM elections. 6773 08:49:25,840 --> 08:49:28,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, Mr. Sponsor. Just to save time po. 6774 08:49:31,140 --> 08:49:33,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi ko po maunawaan yung justification. 6775 08:49:35,180 --> 08:49:39,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Naintindihan ko kung ito yung inabutan ng butihing sekretary, Mel Sarmiento. 6776 08:49:39,080 --> 08:49:41,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero the... 6777 08:49:41,600 --> 08:49:46,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The justification being presented now by OPA Pro through the Sponsor 6778 08:49:46,140 --> 08:49:49,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is not really acceptable because nagsisemantics po tayo eh. 6779 08:49:51,360 --> 08:49:56,040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The green bullet in the legend specifically say, 6780 08:49:57,360 --> 08:50:01,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: fully implemented slash institutionalized. 6781 08:50:02,440 --> 08:50:06,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, Mr. Sponsor, hindi po ito either or, Mr. Sponsor. 6782 08:50:06,260 --> 08:50:10,820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, hindi ko maintindihan, Mr. Sponsor, if the predecessor, 6783 08:50:11,600 --> 08:50:14,740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of the good sekretary, is really not telling the truth? 6784 08:50:21,740 --> 08:50:24,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Nakalagay dito, 6785 08:50:24,540 --> 08:50:24,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yes po. 6786 08:50:25,520 --> 08:50:29,920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Partially implemented slash institutionalized. 6787 08:50:29,920 --> 08:50:30,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yan yung yellow. 6788 08:50:30,480 --> 08:50:31,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tama po. 6789 08:50:31,220 --> 08:50:32,160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yeah, yeah. Yellow. 6790 08:50:53,860 --> 08:50:56,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes. 6791 08:51:10,600 --> 08:51:24,740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: If I'm correct, I heard my colleague saying that ito yung inabutan ng sekretary. That's why hindi siya maka-respond doon sa mangyari. 6792 08:51:24,740 --> 08:51:37,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sponsor, and to the good sekretary. At least nagkaroon na po tayo ng kalinawan. Ang gusto ko lang po kasi i-correct, mahirap po na nagbabago-bago tayo ng report on PDP. 6793 08:51:37,220 --> 08:51:43,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And it is a good development po na may ganong admission po from the good sekretary. 6794 08:51:43,620 --> 08:51:54,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I'm moving on po, Mr. Sponsor. Dito naman po tayo sa PAMANA. Ang PAMANA po ay hindi lang simple yung General Development Fund. 6795 08:51:54,580 --> 08:52:06,300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: It is intended for conflict-affected and conflict-vulnerable areas. So it operates within the framework of peace process. 6796 08:52:07,220 --> 08:52:30,180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ngayon po, nangihingi ang OPAPRU ng 6.090 billion for PAMANA. For the interest of time po, can the OPAPRU through the sponsor describe papaano nag-ooperate yung nire-request na PAMANA dito po sa framework ng peace process? 6797 08:52:30,180 --> 08:52:36,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Just to be very specific on this, at baka po makapagbigay ng example ang OPAPRU. 6798 08:52:37,220 --> 08:52:43,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano bang magbigay? Random sampling na lang po tayo. Tatlong areas wherein merong PAMANA. 6799 08:52:44,600 --> 08:52:55,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Saan ang region or area na may pinakamalaking allocation? Ano yung specific conflict driver? Bakit naglagay ng malaking pondo for PAMANA on that specific region? 6800 08:52:56,560 --> 08:53:04,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos ano yung existing or governing peace agreement? And then ano yung outcome na inaabot natin? 6801 08:53:04,340 --> 08:53:07,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So kasi again, ang punto dito, Mr. Sponsor. 6802 08:53:07,220 --> 08:53:18,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, PAMANA is not just any general development fund. It is intended to address conflict vulnerabilities in many areas. 6803 08:53:18,520 --> 08:53:27,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So pwede po bang pakidescribe ng OPAPRU papaano nag-ooperate yung PAMANA doon sa framework na binanggit ng representasyong ito? 6804 08:53:27,000 --> 08:53:37,000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, distinguished colleague. If I may read, the PAMANA program is anchored on the government strategy of winning the peace by 40%. 6805 08:53:37,220 --> 08:53:37,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you. 6806 08:53:38,080 --> 08:53:54,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Partnership in promoting convergent delivery of goods and services and addressing regional development challenges in conflict affected and conflict vulnerable areas. 6807 08:53:54,240 --> 08:54:06,180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It builds both physical and social infrastructures for these areas at the regional, provincial, and barangay levels, 6808 08:54:06,540 --> 08:54:07,200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ensuring that the peace agreement is notyttied to all boundaries. 6809 08:54:07,200 --> 08:54:08,760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that they are not left behind. 6810 08:54:09,320 --> 08:54:10,680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The design and delivery 6811 08:54:10,680 --> 08:54:12,760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of PAMANA program 6812 08:54:12,760 --> 08:54:15,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is conflict-sensitive 6813 08:54:15,300 --> 08:54:17,340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and peace-promoting, 6814 08:54:18,020 --> 08:54:19,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: thus distinguishing it 6815 08:54:19,400 --> 08:54:21,100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: from other development 6816 08:54:21,100 --> 08:54:23,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: interventions of the 6817 08:54:23,380 --> 08:54:23,760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: government. 6818 08:54:25,660 --> 08:54:26,920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: If I may... 6819 08:54:26,920 --> 08:54:27,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, Mr. Sponsor. 6820 08:54:28,000 --> 08:54:30,060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: If I may read the criteria and guidelines. 6821 08:54:31,300 --> 08:54:32,520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, 6822 08:54:33,280 --> 08:54:35,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: magbigay na lang po tayo ng halimbawa 6823 08:54:35,260 --> 08:54:37,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasi nga, latag na po 6824 08:54:37,380 --> 08:54:38,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung framework eh ng PAMANA. 6825 08:54:39,680 --> 08:54:39,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sige po. 6826 08:54:40,000 --> 08:54:41,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ito po, personal ko. 6827 08:54:41,300 --> 08:54:42,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Hindi ko po sila tinung 6828 08:54:42,620 --> 08:54:43,700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: dahil nakita ko ito eh. 6829 08:54:44,280 --> 08:54:46,020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sa Caraga region, 6830 08:54:46,600 --> 08:54:48,920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ako eh, 6831 08:54:49,620 --> 08:54:51,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: if I may just give a little 6832 08:54:51,540 --> 08:54:52,100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: background, 6833 08:54:52,860 --> 08:54:54,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: way back 15, 6834 08:54:54,820 --> 08:54:56,180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 10 to 15 years ago, 6835 08:54:56,840 --> 08:54:58,060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the whole of Mindanao, 6836 08:54:58,700 --> 08:55:00,520 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: it is in Caraga region 6837 08:55:00,520 --> 08:55:03,040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: identified as 6838 08:55:03,040 --> 08:55:03,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 72. 6839 08:55:03,880 --> 08:55:06,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Parang conflict 6840 08:55:06,220 --> 08:55:07,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ng CPP-NPA. 6841 08:55:09,400 --> 08:55:11,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 72 baranggays. 6842 08:55:12,560 --> 08:55:12,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And, 6843 08:55:12,920 --> 08:55:14,860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: nagkaroon po ako ng part 6844 08:55:14,860 --> 08:55:15,580 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: at that time. 6845 08:55:16,040 --> 08:55:17,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I was working then 6846 08:55:17,240 --> 08:55:19,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as a presidential assistant 6847 08:55:19,840 --> 08:55:20,900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for Caraga region. 6848 08:55:21,340 --> 08:55:22,820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Almost the same po. 6849 08:55:23,200 --> 08:55:26,200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ngayon po, may mga projects na sila 6850 08:55:26,200 --> 08:55:28,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: sa alam ko, sa Agusan del Norte. 6851 08:55:30,100 --> 08:55:31,740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Di lang makasigurado. 6852 08:55:31,740 --> 08:55:33,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I just want to be sure. 6853 08:55:33,880 --> 08:55:35,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Mayroon sa Agusan. 6854 08:55:36,120 --> 08:55:36,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And, in fact, 6855 08:55:37,760 --> 08:55:39,000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: just two months ago, 6856 08:55:39,180 --> 08:55:42,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: I went around 13 rural schools. 6857 08:55:43,140 --> 08:55:44,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And, doon, 6858 08:55:44,300 --> 08:55:46,320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: nahingian po ako ng water. 6859 08:55:47,060 --> 08:55:48,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Very important 6860 08:55:48,400 --> 08:55:49,720 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ang water supply. 6861 08:55:50,320 --> 08:55:51,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: That's why, siguro, 6862 08:55:52,240 --> 08:55:55,200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: mag-a-apply din ako 6863 08:55:55,200 --> 08:55:57,360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: para sa distrito ko. 6864 08:55:57,360 --> 08:55:57,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So, 6865 08:55:59,320 --> 08:56:03,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: PAMANA supports the completion 6866 08:56:03,400 --> 08:56:03,860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of PAMANA. 6867 08:56:03,880 --> 08:56:04,680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Disagreements. 6868 08:56:05,260 --> 08:56:07,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Example, infrastructure projects 6869 08:56:07,380 --> 08:56:09,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in Cordillera, 6870 08:56:09,920 --> 08:56:11,360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: projects, 6871 08:56:11,980 --> 08:56:13,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: facilitates 6872 08:56:13,460 --> 08:56:15,320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: access to services 6873 08:56:15,320 --> 08:56:18,020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and enhances 6874 08:56:18,020 --> 08:56:19,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: connectivity. 6875 08:56:22,340 --> 08:56:23,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, 6876 08:56:24,860 --> 08:56:25,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pwede po bang makarequest 6877 08:56:26,400 --> 08:56:28,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang kinatawang ito 6878 08:56:28,020 --> 08:56:29,720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng allocation 6879 08:56:29,720 --> 08:56:31,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng PAMANA na naka-disaggregate 6880 08:56:31,880 --> 08:56:33,720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: per region? 6881 08:56:33,880 --> 08:56:36,120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And, what particular PAMANA projects 6882 08:56:36,120 --> 08:56:36,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: are being allocated? 6883 08:56:37,120 --> 08:56:39,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Willing po ang office ng OPAPRO 6884 08:56:39,440 --> 08:56:40,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: na mag-submit ng 6885 08:56:40,840 --> 08:56:44,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: specific po yan. 6886 08:56:44,520 --> 08:56:46,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang punto ko kasi dito, 6887 08:56:47,400 --> 08:56:48,320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, 6888 08:56:49,260 --> 08:56:50,280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dito po sa PAMANA, 6889 08:56:50,480 --> 08:56:51,680 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi po ba ito 6890 08:56:51,680 --> 08:56:52,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: duplication? 6891 08:56:53,480 --> 08:56:54,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi, ang siste po, 6892 08:56:54,920 --> 08:56:56,120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang PAMANA ay 6893 08:56:56,120 --> 08:56:57,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pass-through sa OPAPRO. 6894 08:56:58,560 --> 08:56:59,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi po ba ito duplication? 6895 08:57:00,020 --> 08:57:02,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Nalimbawa, may agricultural support 6896 08:57:02,580 --> 08:57:03,680 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for farmers. 6897 08:57:03,880 --> 08:57:04,520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Meron ng DA. 6898 08:57:05,680 --> 08:57:06,860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Merong ROADS. 6899 08:57:07,020 --> 08:57:08,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Actually, kalakhan po ng budget 6900 08:57:08,480 --> 08:57:10,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa PAMANA, nasa ROADS. 6901 08:57:10,220 --> 08:57:10,960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Meron naman DP 6902 08:57:10,960 --> 08:57:13,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: o meron po pwedeng ibang agencies. 6903 08:57:14,220 --> 08:57:16,040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, ano po yung rason 6904 08:57:16,040 --> 08:57:16,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung bakit 6905 08:57:16,840 --> 08:57:19,400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagpa-pass-through pa sa PAMANA 6906 08:57:19,400 --> 08:57:20,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at nagdu-duplicate? 6907 08:57:21,060 --> 08:57:21,700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Say, for example, 6908 08:57:22,300 --> 08:57:24,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: if the issue is 6909 08:57:24,060 --> 08:57:26,400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to provide educational assistance 6910 08:57:26,400 --> 08:57:29,280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in conflict-vulnerable areas 6911 08:57:29,280 --> 08:57:30,340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: or conflict areas, 6912 08:57:30,960 --> 08:57:33,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: we already have an agency 6913 08:57:33,060 --> 08:57:34,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: which can directly 6914 08:57:34,880 --> 08:57:36,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: address the problem. 6915 08:57:37,400 --> 08:57:39,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, instead of putting it 6916 08:57:39,380 --> 08:57:40,700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: through PAMANA 6917 08:57:40,700 --> 08:57:43,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and OPAPRO as a 6918 08:57:43,140 --> 08:57:44,240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pass-on agency, 6919 08:57:45,300 --> 08:57:46,300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: why do we need 6920 08:57:46,300 --> 08:57:47,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: or what is the justification 6921 08:57:47,420 --> 08:57:49,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for PAMANA? 6922 08:57:50,120 --> 08:57:50,800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor. 6923 08:57:52,000 --> 08:57:52,800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished 6924 08:57:52,800 --> 08:57:54,580 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: colleague, 6925 08:57:55,080 --> 08:57:57,000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: hindi po wala pong 6926 08:57:57,000 --> 08:57:57,860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ano, 6927 08:57:58,580 --> 08:57:59,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: yung pag-ano, 6928 08:58:00,140 --> 08:58:01,160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: yung pagpatong 6929 08:58:01,160 --> 08:58:02,820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: or duplication nga. 6930 08:58:03,060 --> 08:58:05,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: From the endorsement, 6931 08:58:05,740 --> 08:58:07,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: there are areas, 6932 08:58:07,380 --> 08:58:08,580 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: well, almost all, 6933 08:58:08,860 --> 08:58:10,040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: nagkakaroon ng MOA, 6934 08:58:10,840 --> 08:58:12,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: sometimes with the LGU. 6935 08:58:13,220 --> 08:58:14,120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Siyempre, yung LGU, 6936 08:58:14,200 --> 08:58:16,060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: pag nakita na meron, 6937 08:58:16,440 --> 08:58:17,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: hindi na rin pwede. 6938 08:58:18,680 --> 08:58:19,040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And, 6939 08:58:21,880 --> 08:58:23,600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the validation of projects 6940 08:58:23,600 --> 08:58:25,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: by the PAMANA 6941 08:58:25,080 --> 08:58:27,180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and NPMO 6942 08:58:27,180 --> 08:58:28,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ensure no duplication 6943 08:58:28,960 --> 08:58:30,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the targets, 6944 08:58:30,300 --> 08:58:32,500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: specifically the projects 6945 08:58:32,500 --> 08:58:34,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and project location indoors. 6946 08:58:34,980 --> 08:58:35,760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The OPAPRO 6947 08:58:35,760 --> 08:58:37,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: closely coordinates 6948 08:58:37,880 --> 08:58:39,600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with concerned agencies 6949 08:58:39,600 --> 08:58:41,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and or offices 6950 08:58:41,400 --> 08:58:43,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: during site validation. 6951 08:58:44,400 --> 08:58:46,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Also, one of the key considerations 6952 08:58:46,380 --> 08:58:48,680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in the enlistment of projects 6953 08:58:48,680 --> 08:58:51,340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: include the uncertainty 6954 08:58:51,340 --> 08:58:53,340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that is no funding 6955 08:58:53,340 --> 08:58:55,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: from other offices 6956 08:58:55,400 --> 08:58:56,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: units. 6957 08:58:57,560 --> 08:58:59,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Further safeguarding this, 6958 08:58:59,080 --> 08:59:01,000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the MOA requires 6959 08:59:01,000 --> 08:59:02,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the attachment of the search, 6960 08:59:02,500 --> 08:59:04,900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: identification from the partner, 6961 08:59:04,900 --> 08:59:05,520 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: LGU, 6962 08:59:05,980 --> 08:59:07,000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: that the project 6963 08:59:07,000 --> 08:59:08,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: has not been funded 6964 08:59:08,880 --> 08:59:11,360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: from any other source, 6965 08:59:11,740 --> 08:59:13,060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: whether national, 6966 08:59:13,640 --> 08:59:13,940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: local, 6967 08:59:14,400 --> 08:59:14,980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: international, 6968 08:59:15,500 --> 08:59:16,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: or private. 6969 08:59:16,580 --> 08:59:18,340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yung request ko na lang po, 6970 08:59:18,420 --> 08:59:19,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, 6971 08:59:19,620 --> 08:59:21,240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na makahingi po kami ng breakdown 6972 08:59:21,240 --> 08:59:22,660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para makita lang po natin. 6973 08:59:23,060 --> 08:59:23,300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi, 6974 08:59:24,000 --> 08:59:25,800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: malaki yung component eh 6975 08:59:25,800 --> 08:59:26,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for PAMANA. 6976 08:59:26,960 --> 08:59:28,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Last question, Mr. Speaker, 6977 08:59:28,180 --> 08:59:29,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: with your indulgence, 6978 08:59:29,060 --> 08:59:29,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, 6979 08:59:30,040 --> 08:59:30,680 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and our sponsor. 6980 08:59:30,700 --> 08:59:31,600 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: That would be the last question 6981 08:59:31,600 --> 08:59:32,260 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: of the gentleman. 6982 08:59:32,500 --> 08:59:35,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya po pinag-uusapan natin 6983 08:59:35,480 --> 08:59:36,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: itong PAMANA. 6984 08:59:36,940 --> 08:59:38,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi, Mr. Sponsor, 6985 08:59:38,600 --> 08:59:39,300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, 6986 08:59:40,580 --> 08:59:41,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: napakalaki po ng 6987 08:59:41,580 --> 08:59:43,180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: unliquidated funds 6988 08:59:43,180 --> 08:59:45,820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nakita po ng 6989 08:59:45,820 --> 08:59:46,960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Commission on Audit 6990 08:59:46,960 --> 08:59:48,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: regarding this matter. 6991 08:59:49,120 --> 08:59:49,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Say, for example, 6992 08:59:50,260 --> 08:59:50,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, 6993 08:59:51,000 --> 08:59:51,600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, 6994 08:59:52,480 --> 08:59:53,560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in 2026, 6995 08:59:53,700 --> 08:59:54,560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: this year alone, 6996 08:59:55,740 --> 08:59:57,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: second quarter, 6997 08:59:57,920 --> 08:59:59,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 1.26 billion 6998 08:59:59,940 --> 09:00:00,620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang unliquidated for PAMANA. 6999 09:00:02,600 --> 09:00:04,300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In 2025 year-end, 7000 09:00:05,400 --> 09:00:07,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 3.93 billion unliquidated. 7001 09:00:08,080 --> 09:00:09,740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ito po yung naabutan na lang siguro 7002 09:00:09,740 --> 09:00:12,360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ni Good Secretary Mel Sarmiento. 7003 09:00:13,360 --> 09:00:13,860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And then, 7004 09:00:13,860 --> 09:00:17,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the total unliquidated PAMANA transfers 7005 09:00:17,380 --> 09:00:20,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: per COA audit findings 7006 09:00:20,380 --> 09:00:24,460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is 9.936 billion pesos. 7007 09:00:25,680 --> 09:00:27,560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang lalaki po ng mga unliquidated 7008 09:00:27,560 --> 09:00:29,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: PAMANA transfers. 7009 09:00:30,920 --> 09:00:31,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And then, 7010 09:00:32,340 --> 09:00:32,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and then, 7011 09:00:32,980 --> 09:00:35,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, 7012 09:00:36,000 --> 09:00:37,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: here we are, 7013 09:00:37,800 --> 09:00:39,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: deliberating the, 7014 09:00:39,300 --> 09:00:41,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: another request of OPA-PRO, 7015 09:00:42,160 --> 09:00:45,280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: requesting 6.090 billion 7016 09:00:45,280 --> 09:00:49,340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: despite these repeated flags 7017 09:00:49,340 --> 09:00:51,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: by the Commission on Audit. 7018 09:00:53,000 --> 09:00:55,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yun po yung gusto nating malaman, 7019 09:00:55,760 --> 09:00:57,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ano po yung mga pamamaraan 7020 09:00:57,380 --> 09:00:59,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na ginagawa na ngayon ng OPA-PRO 7021 09:00:59,080 --> 09:01:02,520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to reconcile these audit findings 7022 09:01:02,520 --> 09:01:05,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: by the billions of pesos in amount. 7023 09:01:05,780 --> 09:01:06,240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And now, 7024 09:01:07,140 --> 09:01:09,320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: we are discussing the budget 7025 09:01:09,320 --> 09:01:11,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for OPA-PRO for fiscal year 2027. 7026 09:01:11,900 --> 09:01:14,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Another request, 7027 09:01:14,780 --> 09:01:16,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 6 billion for that matter 7028 09:01:16,200 --> 09:01:17,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is being made 7029 09:01:17,020 --> 09:01:19,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: despite these staggering 7030 09:01:19,920 --> 09:01:21,640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: unliquidated fund transfers. 7031 09:01:22,080 --> 09:01:24,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor. 7032 09:01:25,040 --> 09:01:25,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes. 7033 09:01:27,000 --> 09:01:28,900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The 2017 7034 09:01:29,080 --> 09:01:31,200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: PAMANA projects, 7035 09:01:31,420 --> 09:01:33,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: which refers to the 7036 09:01:33,480 --> 09:01:35,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: fund transfer made to various 7037 09:01:35,440 --> 09:01:37,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: implementing agencies 7038 09:01:37,240 --> 09:01:39,340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: for the implementation of 7039 09:01:39,340 --> 09:01:41,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: PAMANA programs for 7040 09:01:41,300 --> 09:01:42,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: calendar year 2017, 7041 09:01:43,660 --> 09:01:44,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: totaling to 7042 09:01:44,620 --> 09:01:48,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 6 billion, 7043 09:01:48,380 --> 09:01:50,500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 185 million, 7044 09:01:51,060 --> 09:01:52,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 513. 7045 09:01:53,400 --> 09:01:55,680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: As of July 2024, 7046 09:01:55,680 --> 09:01:57,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the record shows 7047 09:01:57,280 --> 09:01:59,020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 3 billion, 7048 09:01:59,080 --> 09:02:01,820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 698, 635, 7049 09:02:02,000 --> 09:02:03,000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 631 7050 09:02:03,000 --> 09:02:05,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: were already liquidated 7051 09:02:05,480 --> 09:02:07,200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and refunded 7052 09:02:07,200 --> 09:02:09,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: respectively and the 7053 09:02:09,280 --> 09:02:11,320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: corresponding liquidation reports 7054 09:02:11,320 --> 09:02:13,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: were submitted to the 7055 09:02:13,480 --> 09:02:15,640 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Office of the Commission on Audit. 7056 09:02:16,400 --> 09:02:16,860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The PAMANA 7057 09:02:16,860 --> 09:02:18,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The PAMANA 7058 09:02:18,400 --> 09:02:23,980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The PAMANA program reactivated 7059 09:02:23,980 --> 09:02:25,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the citizen-led 7060 09:02:25,440 --> 09:02:27,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: monitoring to further 7061 09:02:27,260 --> 09:02:28,660 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: enhance and exercise 7062 09:02:28,660 --> 09:02:31,940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the operationalization 7063 09:02:31,940 --> 09:02:33,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of transparency 7064 09:02:33,440 --> 09:02:35,060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and accountability 7065 09:02:35,060 --> 09:02:36,500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: mechanism. 7066 09:02:38,500 --> 09:02:40,800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished colleague, 7067 09:02:42,100 --> 09:02:43,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: again, 7068 09:02:43,520 --> 09:02:44,180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the Secretary 7069 09:02:44,180 --> 09:02:46,060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: does not 7070 09:02:46,060 --> 09:02:51,020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: does not approve 7071 09:02:51,020 --> 09:02:53,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: those 7072 09:02:53,400 --> 09:02:55,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: questionable 7073 09:02:55,240 --> 09:02:56,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: projects. 7074 09:02:57,380 --> 09:02:58,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Again, 7075 09:02:58,660 --> 09:02:59,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: we just 7076 09:02:59,380 --> 09:03:02,340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: joined the OPA 7077 09:03:02,340 --> 09:03:03,980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Pro just recently 7078 09:03:03,980 --> 09:03:06,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and 7079 09:03:06,540 --> 09:03:09,060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the Secretary 7080 09:03:09,060 --> 09:03:10,900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: has extended 7081 09:03:10,900 --> 09:03:13,120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to the members of this 7082 09:03:13,120 --> 09:03:15,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: chamber to 7083 09:03:15,080 --> 09:03:17,100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: visit projects 7084 09:03:17,100 --> 09:03:18,940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and programs real-time 7085 09:03:18,940 --> 09:03:20,660 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: or geotag 7086 09:03:20,660 --> 09:03:23,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: real-time 7087 09:03:23,260 --> 09:03:24,060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: geotag 7088 09:03:24,060 --> 09:03:26,420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in one system. 7089 09:03:26,420 --> 09:03:28,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you for the 7090 09:03:28,500 --> 09:03:29,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: assurance. 7091 09:03:29,220 --> 09:03:29,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: You get to see everything, 7092 09:03:30,080 --> 09:03:30,780 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: all the projects. 7093 09:03:30,920 --> 09:03:31,640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 7094 09:03:32,080 --> 09:03:33,560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you for that assurance, 7095 09:03:33,720 --> 09:03:34,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, 7096 09:03:34,560 --> 09:03:35,720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and it is really refreshing 7097 09:03:35,720 --> 09:03:36,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to hear that 7098 09:03:36,440 --> 09:03:38,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: coming from the Secretary 7099 09:03:38,540 --> 09:03:40,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: or the Presidential Advisor 7100 09:03:40,060 --> 09:03:41,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: on Peace, 7101 09:03:41,740 --> 09:03:42,400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Reconciliation, 7102 09:03:42,720 --> 09:03:43,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Unity. 7103 09:03:43,860 --> 09:03:44,960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ito po yung mga 7104 09:03:44,960 --> 09:03:46,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasagutan 7105 09:03:46,200 --> 09:03:48,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na dapat po nating 7106 09:03:48,260 --> 09:03:49,120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: naririnig 7107 09:03:49,120 --> 09:03:51,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: mula po sa kalihim 7108 09:03:51,420 --> 09:03:52,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nangangasiwa 7109 09:03:52,900 --> 09:03:54,360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para masaraduhan 7110 09:03:54,360 --> 09:03:56,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang mga usaping 7111 09:03:56,000 --> 09:03:57,180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pangkapayapaan. 7112 09:03:57,860 --> 09:03:58,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, 7113 09:03:58,500 --> 09:04:00,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi po kasi po pwede 7114 09:04:00,020 --> 09:04:01,320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na perpetually na lang 7115 09:04:01,320 --> 09:04:02,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nakabukas 7116 09:04:02,140 --> 09:04:03,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: lahat 7117 09:04:03,380 --> 09:04:04,720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga usaping 7118 09:04:04,720 --> 09:04:05,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pangkapayapaan. 7119 09:04:06,580 --> 09:04:07,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kailangan na 7120 09:04:07,260 --> 09:04:08,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pakalinaw po 7121 09:04:08,260 --> 09:04:09,600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng ating timeline 7122 09:04:09,600 --> 09:04:11,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa kung kailan 7123 09:04:11,000 --> 09:04:11,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: natin tatapusin 7124 09:04:12,220 --> 09:04:13,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: o awakasan 7125 09:04:13,160 --> 09:04:14,400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: itong mga 7126 09:04:14,400 --> 09:04:15,400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: peace tables. 7127 09:04:16,160 --> 09:04:17,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Dahil ang kahulugan 7128 09:04:17,000 --> 09:04:17,820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nito, Mr. Speaker, 7129 09:04:17,980 --> 09:04:18,780 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, 7130 09:04:18,900 --> 09:04:20,680 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: if we are able 7131 09:04:20,680 --> 09:04:22,040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to close 7132 09:04:22,040 --> 09:04:22,800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: finally 7133 09:04:22,800 --> 09:04:23,460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and end 7134 09:04:23,460 --> 09:04:24,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: all these peace tables, 7135 09:04:25,420 --> 09:04:26,740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ibig sabihin din po yan 7136 09:04:26,740 --> 09:04:28,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: matagumpay tayo 7137 09:04:28,480 --> 09:04:29,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nakapagsarado 7138 09:04:29,980 --> 09:04:31,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng madilim, 7139 09:04:31,120 --> 09:04:31,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: masalimuot, 7140 09:04:32,640 --> 09:04:34,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na bahagi ng kasaysayan 7141 09:04:34,260 --> 09:04:35,820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa iba't ibang lugar 7142 09:04:35,820 --> 09:04:37,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung saan merong 7143 09:04:37,200 --> 09:04:37,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: karahasan. 7144 09:04:38,580 --> 09:04:39,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And with the assurance 7145 09:04:39,480 --> 09:04:41,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of the good secretary 7146 09:04:41,260 --> 09:04:42,360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: through the sponsor, 7147 09:04:43,280 --> 09:04:44,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: this representation 7148 09:04:44,100 --> 09:04:45,800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is more than willing 7149 09:04:45,800 --> 09:04:46,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and open 7150 09:04:46,440 --> 09:04:48,240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to have a dialogue 7151 09:04:48,240 --> 09:04:49,720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and conversation 7152 09:04:49,720 --> 09:04:51,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: with the OPAPRU 7153 09:04:51,020 --> 09:04:52,280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: so as to check 7154 09:04:52,280 --> 09:04:52,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and see 7155 09:04:52,760 --> 09:04:54,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: where we can collaborate 7156 09:04:54,760 --> 09:04:56,660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: regarding the existing 7157 09:04:56,660 --> 09:04:57,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: peace tables 7158 09:04:57,480 --> 09:04:58,460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in the OPAPRU. 7159 09:04:58,480 --> 09:04:59,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yan lang po. 7160 09:04:59,480 --> 09:05:00,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maraming salamat. 7161 09:05:00,480 --> 09:05:01,480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you very much, 7162 09:05:01,480 --> 09:05:02,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Majority Leader. 7163 09:05:02,480 --> 09:05:03,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, 7164 09:05:03,480 --> 09:05:04,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished Colleague. 7165 09:05:04,480 --> 09:05:05,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Again, 7166 09:05:05,480 --> 09:05:06,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the Secretary, 7167 09:05:06,480 --> 09:05:07,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, 7168 09:05:07,480 --> 09:05:08,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the CPLA, 7169 09:05:08,480 --> 09:05:09,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: last September 1, 7170 09:05:09,480 --> 09:05:10,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: signed a 7171 09:05:10,480 --> 09:05:11,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: fulfillment agreement 7172 09:05:11,480 --> 09:05:12,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: already 7173 09:05:12,480 --> 09:05:13,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: with the 7174 09:05:13,480 --> 09:05:14,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: good Secretary. 7175 09:05:19,600 --> 09:05:20,080 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you, 7176 09:05:20,080 --> 09:05:21,550 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader. 7177 09:05:21,560 --> 09:05:23,830 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Mr. Speaker, 7178 09:05:23,840 --> 09:05:24,520 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: to continue 7179 09:05:24,520 --> 09:05:24,840 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: with the 7180 09:05:24,840 --> 09:05:25,990 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: interpellation 7181 09:05:26,000 --> 09:05:26,680 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the proposed 7182 09:05:26,680 --> 09:05:28,480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: budget, 7183 09:05:28,480 --> 09:05:29,480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: I move that 7184 09:05:29,480 --> 09:05:30,480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: we recognize 7185 09:05:30,480 --> 09:05:32,480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Representative Dada Kiram 7186 09:05:32,480 --> 09:05:33,480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Ismula 7187 09:05:33,480 --> 09:05:34,480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the 7188 09:05:34,480 --> 09:05:35,480 Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Akbayan Party List. 7189 09:05:35,480 --> 09:05:36,480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentle lady 7190 09:05:36,480 --> 09:05:37,480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: from Akbayan, 7191 09:05:37,480 --> 09:05:38,480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Representative Dada Kiram 7192 09:05:38,480 --> 09:05:39,480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Ismula 7193 09:05:39,480 --> 09:05:40,480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: is recognized 7194 09:05:40,480 --> 09:05:41,480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: to interpellate 7195 09:05:41,480 --> 09:05:42,480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: the sponsor. 7196 09:05:44,480 --> 09:05:45,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Assalamu alaikum 7197 09:05:45,480 --> 09:05:46,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: wa rahmatullahi 7198 09:05:46,480 --> 09:05:47,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: wa barakatuhu. 7199 09:05:49,480 --> 09:05:50,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, 7200 09:05:50,480 --> 09:05:51,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Sponsor, 7201 09:05:51,480 --> 09:05:52,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: noong 7202 09:05:52,480 --> 09:05:54,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: September 14 7203 09:05:54,480 --> 09:05:55,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ay ginanap po 7204 09:05:55,480 --> 09:05:56,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang kauna-unahang 7205 09:05:56,480 --> 09:05:57,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: BARM 7206 09:05:57,480 --> 09:05:58,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: parliamentary 7207 09:05:58,480 --> 09:05:59,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: election. 7208 09:05:59,480 --> 09:06:00,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Masaya po tayo 7209 09:06:00,480 --> 09:06:01,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na sa wakas 7210 09:06:01,480 --> 09:06:02,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ay nakikita na 7211 09:06:02,480 --> 09:06:03,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: natin 7212 09:06:03,480 --> 09:06:04,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mga bunga 7213 09:06:04,480 --> 09:06:05,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng peace 7214 09:06:05,480 --> 09:06:06,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: process. 7215 09:06:06,480 --> 09:06:07,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngunit, 7216 09:06:07,480 --> 09:06:08,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: may ilang 7217 09:06:08,480 --> 09:06:09,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mahahalagang 7218 09:06:09,480 --> 09:06:10,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: katanungan 7219 09:06:10,480 --> 09:06:11,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: lamang po tayong 7220 09:06:11,480 --> 09:06:12,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nais 7221 09:06:12,480 --> 09:06:13,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: linawin 7222 09:06:13,480 --> 09:06:14,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa OPAPRO 7223 09:06:14,480 --> 09:06:15,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: bilang pangunahing 7224 09:06:15,480 --> 09:06:16,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: opisina 7225 09:06:16,480 --> 09:06:17,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na 7226 09:06:17,480 --> 09:06:18,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nagmamanage 7227 09:06:18,480 --> 09:06:19,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at supervise 7228 09:06:19,480 --> 09:06:20,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng comprehensive 7229 09:06:20,480 --> 09:06:21,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: peace 7230 09:06:21,480 --> 09:06:22,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: process. 7231 09:06:22,480 --> 09:06:23,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang una 7232 09:06:23,480 --> 09:06:24,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ko pong magiging 7233 09:06:24,480 --> 09:06:25,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: katanungan 7234 09:06:25,480 --> 09:06:26,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ay patungkol po 7235 09:06:26,480 --> 09:06:27,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa PAMANA 7236 09:06:27,480 --> 09:06:28,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: program. 7237 09:06:28,480 --> 09:06:30,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, 7238 09:06:30,480 --> 09:06:31,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished 7239 09:06:31,480 --> 09:06:32,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sponsor, 7240 09:06:32,480 --> 09:06:33,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa ilalim po 7241 09:06:33,480 --> 09:06:34,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng 2027 7242 09:06:34,480 --> 09:06:35,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: NEP, 7243 09:06:35,480 --> 09:06:36,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: meron pong 7244 09:06:36,480 --> 09:06:37,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 6.90 7245 09:06:37,480 --> 09:06:38,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: bilyon 7246 09:06:38,480 --> 09:06:39,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pesos 7247 09:06:39,480 --> 09:06:40,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: allocated 7248 09:06:40,480 --> 09:06:41,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para sa 7249 09:06:41,480 --> 09:06:42,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: PAMANA program 7250 09:06:42,480 --> 09:06:43,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kung saan 7251 09:06:43,480 --> 09:06:44,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: OPAPRO 7252 09:06:44,480 --> 09:06:45,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mag-i-implement 7253 09:06:45,480 --> 09:06:46,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng mga 7254 09:06:46,480 --> 09:06:47,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: projects 7255 09:06:47,480 --> 09:06:48,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa conflict 7256 09:06:48,480 --> 09:06:49,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: affected 7257 09:06:49,480 --> 09:06:50,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at conflict 7258 09:06:50,480 --> 09:06:51,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: vulnerable 7259 09:06:51,480 --> 09:06:52,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: areas. 7260 09:06:52,480 --> 09:06:53,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magkano 7261 09:06:53,480 --> 09:06:54,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa 6.90 7262 09:06:54,480 --> 09:06:55,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: bilyon 7263 09:06:55,480 --> 09:06:56,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pesos 7264 09:06:56,480 --> 09:06:57,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na ito 7265 09:06:57,480 --> 09:06:58,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mapupunta 7266 09:06:58,480 --> 09:06:59,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa normalization 7267 09:06:59,480 --> 09:07:01,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: implementation? 7268 09:07:01,480 --> 09:07:02,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin 7269 09:07:02,480 --> 09:07:03,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: po, 7270 09:07:03,480 --> 09:07:04,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: magkano 7271 09:07:04,480 --> 09:07:05,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang direktang 7272 09:07:05,480 --> 09:07:06,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mapupunta 7273 09:07:06,480 --> 09:07:07,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa 7274 09:07:07,480 --> 09:07:08,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: proseso 7275 09:07:08,480 --> 09:07:09,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng pagtulong 7276 09:07:09,480 --> 09:07:10,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa mga 7277 09:07:10,480 --> 09:07:11,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: former 7278 09:07:11,480 --> 09:07:12,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: combatants 7279 09:07:12,480 --> 09:07:13,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at mga 7280 09:07:13,480 --> 09:07:14,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pamayanang 7281 09:07:14,480 --> 09:07:15,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: naapektuhan 7282 09:07:15,480 --> 09:07:16,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng armed 7283 09:07:16,480 --> 09:07:17,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: conflict upang 7284 09:07:17,480 --> 09:07:18,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: makabalik sa 7285 09:07:18,480 --> 09:07:19,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mapayapa, 7286 09:07:19,480 --> 09:07:20,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: produktibo 7287 09:07:20,480 --> 09:07:21,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at ligtas 7288 09:07:21,480 --> 09:07:22,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na pamumuhay? 7289 09:07:22,480 --> 09:07:23,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, 7290 09:07:23,480 --> 09:07:24,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: thank you. 7291 09:07:24,480 --> 09:07:25,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you. 7292 09:07:25,480 --> 09:07:26,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Mr. 7293 09:07:26,480 --> 09:07:27,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Honor, 7294 09:07:27,480 --> 09:07:28,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished 7295 09:07:28,480 --> 09:07:29,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Chief, 7296 09:07:29,480 --> 09:07:30,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ang mapupunta 7297 09:07:30,480 --> 09:07:31,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: po sa 7298 09:07:31,480 --> 09:07:32,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: BARM 7299 09:07:32,480 --> 09:07:33,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ay 25 7300 09:07:33,480 --> 09:07:34,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: projects. 7301 09:07:34,480 --> 09:07:35,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The amount, 7302 09:07:35,480 --> 09:07:36,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: allocated 7303 09:07:36,480 --> 09:07:37,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: amount 7304 09:07:37,480 --> 09:07:38,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: is 7305 09:07:38,480 --> 09:07:39,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 800, 7306 09:07:39,480 --> 09:07:40,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 868 7307 09:07:40,480 --> 09:07:41,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: million 7308 09:07:41,480 --> 09:07:42,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 440,000. 7309 09:07:49,200 --> 09:07:49,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang 7310 09:07:49,800 --> 09:07:50,040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: aking 7311 09:07:50,040 --> 09:07:50,278 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pong 7312 09:07:50,278 --> 09:07:50,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: naging 7313 09:07:50,640 --> 09:07:51,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: katanungan 7314 09:07:51,480 --> 09:07:52,548 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ay 7315 09:07:52,558 --> 09:07:53,078 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: magkano 7316 09:07:53,078 --> 09:07:53,598 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: po ang 7317 09:07:53,598 --> 09:07:54,398 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mapupunta 7318 09:07:54,398 --> 09:07:54,680 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para 7319 09:07:54,680 --> 09:07:55,388 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa 7320 09:07:55,398 --> 09:07:56,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: normalization 7321 09:07:56,480 --> 09:07:58,670 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: implementation. 7322 09:07:58,680 --> 09:08:00,122 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Normalization 7323 09:08:00,122 --> 09:08:01,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: implementation. 7324 09:08:15,480 --> 09:08:16,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ito po, 7325 09:08:16,480 --> 09:08:17,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Your Honor. 7326 09:08:22,480 --> 09:08:23,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: MILF 7327 09:08:23,480 --> 09:08:29,120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: MILF, 23 projects, 563,000,000. 7328 09:08:29,120 --> 09:08:34,120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: MNLF, 7... 7329 09:08:34,120 --> 09:08:41,040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang dalilang. 7330 09:08:41,400 --> 09:08:41,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige po. 7331 09:09:03,440 --> 09:09:04,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sige po. 7332 09:09:04,080 --> 09:09:04,100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: At to, 7333 09:09:04,120 --> 09:09:14,680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 2.2 billion for normalization, including CAMPS, CAMPS Transformation Program. 7334 09:09:15,780 --> 09:09:17,020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Maraming salamat po. 7335 09:09:17,300 --> 09:09:18,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sa 2027 po. 7336 09:09:19,500 --> 09:09:21,440 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 2.2 billion. 7337 09:09:21,760 --> 09:09:22,940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yeah, 2.2 billion. 7338 09:09:23,360 --> 09:09:23,860 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay po. 7339 09:09:24,480 --> 09:09:32,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Susunod pong katanungan, sa ilalim naman din po ng special provisions ng 2027 NEP, 7340 09:09:32,200 --> 09:09:34,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang OPA-PRO ay merong... 7341 09:09:34,080 --> 09:09:43,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang obligasyon na i-validate ang implementation ng PAMANA program by the DSWD, NCIP, at PhilHealth. 7342 09:09:43,680 --> 09:09:51,380 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At ang kabuoang halaga na ini-implement ng mga ahensya na ito ay nasa 1.4 billion pesos. 7343 09:09:52,080 --> 09:09:59,160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Sponsor, maaari bang ipaliwanag kung ano ang pagkakaiba nito sa 6.9 billion 7344 09:10:00,100 --> 09:10:03,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: that will be directly implemented by the OPA-PRO? 7345 09:10:03,560 --> 09:10:22,820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yung nabanggit niyo po na yung mga NCIP, PhilHealth, DSWD, PhilHealth, and NCIP, 7346 09:10:24,000 --> 09:10:29,560 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: diretso po ito sa agencies such as DSWD, PhilHealth, and NCIP. 7347 09:10:29,560 --> 09:10:33,520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero ang OPA-PRO po ay may obligasyon. 7348 09:10:33,520 --> 09:10:35,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Na i-validate ito. Tama po ba? 7349 09:10:46,720 --> 09:10:49,500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, binabalidate po ng OPA-PRO. 7350 09:10:50,000 --> 09:10:52,120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Oversight po ang OPA-PRO sa mga projects. 7351 09:10:52,140 --> 09:11:01,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At kung aking babalikan po kanina, ibig sabihin na yung 1.4 billion ay directang mapupunta sa mga ahensyang nasabi 7352 09:11:01,920 --> 09:11:06,700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at ito'y nakaseparate doon sa 6.9 billion. Tama? 7353 09:11:07,120 --> 09:11:08,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, diretso po sa kanila. 7354 09:11:08,900 --> 09:11:09,820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Maraming salamat po. 7355 09:11:10,320 --> 09:11:18,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, mas malaki na ang ginagampanan role ng OPA-PRO sa pagpapatupad ng pamana program. 7356 09:11:19,840 --> 09:11:26,660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano masisiguro ng OPA-PRO na meron itong capacity para i-implement ito effectively 7357 09:11:26,660 --> 09:11:31,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at ano ang 2027 targets ng OPA-PRO para sa pamana program? 7358 09:11:31,920 --> 09:11:40,160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang OPA-PRO ay hindi po nag-implement. 7359 09:11:41,400 --> 09:11:46,800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Nag-aano lang po ng download ng funds. 7360 09:11:48,000 --> 09:11:51,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It's either the local government or maybe DPWH. 7361 09:11:53,460 --> 09:11:56,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang agency po, hindi po ang OPA-PRO. 7362 09:11:57,980 --> 09:12:00,200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Oversight lang po ang OPA-PRO. 7363 09:12:00,200 --> 09:12:01,040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Opo. 7364 09:12:01,920 --> 09:12:06,040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kanina sa katanungan ko sa 1.4 billion. 7365 09:12:06,520 --> 09:12:15,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Itong pang-apat kong tanong po, paano po kaya masisiguro ng OPA-PRO na meron itong capacity para i-implement effectively 7366 09:12:15,800 --> 09:12:21,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at ano ang 2027 targets ng OPA-PRO para sa pamana program? 7367 09:12:27,520 --> 09:12:31,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: We have specific nandito po. 7368 09:12:31,920 --> 09:12:34,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Targets for every region. 7369 09:12:34,560 --> 09:12:34,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Okay po. 7370 09:12:38,580 --> 09:12:40,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: For every region. 7371 09:12:40,680 --> 09:12:41,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige po. 7372 09:12:41,600 --> 09:12:42,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa kabuuan po. 7373 09:12:42,480 --> 09:12:45,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: For every region specific project. 7374 09:12:45,560 --> 09:12:46,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay po. 7375 09:12:46,420 --> 09:12:54,540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa kabuuan po, nasa ilan po ang target ng OPA-PRO for 2027 for pamana alone? 7376 09:12:55,000 --> 09:12:55,660 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: For pamana. 7377 09:12:56,380 --> 09:12:56,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes po. 7378 09:13:00,600 --> 09:13:01,760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 6.9 billion. 7379 09:13:01,920 --> 09:13:04,780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 6.9. 7380 09:13:05,000 --> 09:13:05,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes. 7381 09:13:05,320 --> 09:13:07,620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 6.9B yung budget. 7382 09:13:08,160 --> 09:13:09,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang target po, ilan? 7383 09:13:17,800 --> 09:13:19,680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang target po, ito po. 7384 09:13:19,940 --> 09:13:21,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang 152 projects. 7385 09:13:25,220 --> 09:13:26,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 152 projects. 7386 09:13:28,580 --> 09:13:31,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: May porsyento po ba tayong pinag-uusapan dito? 7387 09:13:31,920 --> 09:13:40,140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilang percent ng 6.90 billion yung target ng pamana para sa 2027? 7388 09:14:00,140 --> 09:14:01,020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes. 7389 09:14:01,020 --> 09:14:15,700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This thing is, ito po yung projected targets for 2027 covering both infrastructure and social protection components. 7390 09:14:16,460 --> 09:14:16,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Diba? 7391 09:14:16,540 --> 09:14:30,940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sa program, social infrastructure, may 4,948,000 target beneficiaries, 264. 7392 09:14:31,020 --> 09:14:34,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: LGUs ang unit. 7393 09:14:35,540 --> 09:14:40,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And program management support, 52 million. 7394 09:14:40,680 --> 09:14:45,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Social protection, 258 million students. 7395 09:14:45,300 --> 09:14:54,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And educational assistance is 832 million 290. 7396 09:14:54,880 --> 09:14:59,480 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Target beneficiaries, 16,150 student. 7397 09:15:00,000 --> 09:15:06,940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: A total of 6,090,290,000. 7398 09:15:07,260 --> 09:15:09,040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Alright. Maraming salamat po. 7399 09:15:09,560 --> 09:15:21,160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa panghuli ko pong katanungan para sa pamana program, ano ang posisyon ng OPA-PRO sa kung sino dapat ang implementing agency ng pamana program? 7400 09:15:21,920 --> 09:15:26,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Are they in favor na ibalik ang implementasyon nito sa mga line agencies? 7401 09:15:26,820 --> 09:15:33,600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: More on sa LGU po, ang ano ng OPA-PRO. 7402 09:15:36,200 --> 09:15:38,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: LGU po ang parating kausap ng OPA-PRO. 7403 09:15:39,920 --> 09:15:50,420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes po, naintindihan ko po ito. Ngunit ang tanong ko po, ano po kaya ang posisyon ng OPA-PRO kung sino dapat ang implementing agency ng pamana program? 7404 09:15:51,220 --> 09:15:52,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sangayon po ba? 7405 09:15:52,120 --> 09:15:52,600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: LGU. 7406 09:15:53,160 --> 09:15:53,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: LGU. 7407 09:15:54,120 --> 09:15:55,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sangayon po ba? 7408 09:15:55,300 --> 09:15:56,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang best pa rin, LGU. 7409 09:15:56,820 --> 09:15:57,820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: LGU, Your Honor. 7410 09:15:58,440 --> 09:16:04,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin hindi po kayo sumasangayon na ibalik ang implementasyon na ito sa mga line agencies, tama? 7411 09:16:05,300 --> 09:16:05,820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Hindi po. 7412 09:16:06,000 --> 09:16:06,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Hindi po. 7413 09:16:06,780 --> 09:16:07,880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 7414 09:16:08,480 --> 09:16:11,040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: For accountability and transparency. 7415 09:16:11,560 --> 09:16:14,860 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Alright. Maraming salamat po, Mr. Sponsor. 7416 09:16:15,260 --> 09:16:22,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ako naman po ay dadako ngayon sa budget para sa educational assistance program ng OPA-PRO, no? 7417 09:16:23,400 --> 09:16:26,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, can OPA-PRO confirm? 7418 09:16:26,820 --> 09:16:35,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Na sa 2027-NEP, nagkaroon ng increase sa allocation for education at scholarship. Tama po ba? 7419 09:16:39,680 --> 09:16:40,880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Wala po. 7420 09:16:41,320 --> 09:16:42,720 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Wala pong increase. 7421 09:16:46,420 --> 09:16:55,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Para po sa education at scholarship program, ano ang utilization rate from 2023 to 2026? 7422 09:16:55,820 --> 09:16:56,600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 2026. 7423 09:16:56,820 --> 09:17:02,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kahit detalye na lamang po ng utilization rate. 7424 09:17:07,560 --> 09:17:14,000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Actually, Your Honor, ang EF ay last year lang nabigay. 7425 09:17:15,680 --> 09:17:18,020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: That's 850 million. 7426 09:17:20,420 --> 09:17:21,920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Only this year. 7427 09:17:23,100 --> 09:17:24,920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: EF amana only this year. 7428 09:17:25,720 --> 09:17:26,800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 850 million. 7429 09:17:26,820 --> 09:17:32,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin wala po noong 2023, 24, 25. 7430 09:17:32,560 --> 09:17:33,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Wala po. 7431 09:17:33,280 --> 09:17:34,660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magkano po ngayong taon? 7432 09:17:35,020 --> 09:17:36,360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 850 million. 7433 09:17:36,400 --> 09:17:39,760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At nasa magkano na po ang kasalukuyang utilization? 7434 09:17:47,180 --> 09:17:49,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Wala pa pong release. 7435 09:17:49,820 --> 09:17:51,060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Kaya aling sa OPA. 7436 09:17:53,260 --> 09:17:53,980 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Zero. 7437 09:17:54,560 --> 09:17:56,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Wala pa. Okay. 7438 09:17:56,820 --> 09:18:00,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilan ba ang scholars natin for 2026 po? 7439 09:18:00,520 --> 09:18:06,060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At ilan po ang target beneficiaries natin for the next year, 2027? 7440 09:18:09,360 --> 09:18:13,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ah, 16,150. Pareho lang po ng 2027. 7441 09:18:14,480 --> 09:18:16,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 16,150. 7442 09:18:16,880 --> 09:18:17,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 50. 7443 09:18:17,720 --> 09:18:19,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 16,150. 7444 09:18:19,640 --> 09:18:21,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ito yung for 2026. 7445 09:18:24,760 --> 09:18:26,360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 26 and 27. 7446 09:18:26,360 --> 09:18:27,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Pareho lang po. 7447 09:18:28,400 --> 09:18:30,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So pareho lamang po ang magiging target? 7448 09:18:30,880 --> 09:18:31,060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes. 7449 09:18:32,160 --> 09:18:32,680 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Time lang. 7450 09:18:34,800 --> 09:18:45,140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: May mga reports po tayong narireceive na hindi po natatanggap ng mga anak ng combatants ang kanilang educational grants on time. 7451 09:18:45,840 --> 09:18:49,760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Na siyang nagdudulot ng pagkaantala sa kanilang pag-aaral. 7452 09:18:49,900 --> 09:18:53,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished sponsor, ano po kaya ang dahilan dito? 7453 09:18:56,360 --> 09:19:04,700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ah, your honor, actually wala pang, ano, dahil wala pong narirelease. 7454 09:19:05,700 --> 09:19:06,860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: O wala pong... 7455 09:19:06,860 --> 09:19:14,360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaugnay po ng nasabing niyo pong kanina, dahil wala pong nadadownload sa inyo ang DBM, wala pa talagang narirelease. 7456 09:19:15,260 --> 09:19:15,580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Wala po. 7457 09:19:15,880 --> 09:19:17,400 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay po. Maraming salamat. 7458 09:19:17,400 --> 09:19:23,940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: In relation sa pagkaantala ng pagbibigay ng educational assistance or grants, 7459 09:19:24,580 --> 09:19:26,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nakakuha ang aking opisina ng... 7460 09:19:26,200 --> 09:19:33,580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng kopya ng terms and conditions ng educational assistance program for decommissioned combatants. 7461 09:19:34,120 --> 09:19:39,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa ilalim nito, nakasaad na subject to availability of funds, 7462 09:19:39,680 --> 09:19:42,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang pag-receive ng educational grants, no? 7463 09:19:42,660 --> 09:19:46,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished sponsor, maaari bang ipaliwanag ito? 7464 09:19:46,120 --> 09:19:52,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At hindi ba ito may ituring na isang conditionality na maaaring magdulot 7465 09:19:52,500 --> 09:19:56,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng pagkaantala sa pagbibigay ng educational grants? 7466 09:19:56,200 --> 09:20:02,740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Pwede pong pakiulit yung... 7467 09:20:02,740 --> 09:20:03,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sige po. 7468 09:20:04,120 --> 09:20:10,460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nasabi niyo po kasi kanina na dahil wala pa nga pong naibababa ang DBM sa inyo, no? 7469 09:20:11,160 --> 09:20:13,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero may targets kayo and may budget, tama? 7470 09:20:15,140 --> 09:20:21,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: In relation sa pagkaantala ng pagbibigay ng educational assistance or grants, 7471 09:20:21,680 --> 09:20:22,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nakakuha ang aking opisina ng kopya ng terms and conditions... 7472 09:20:22,200 --> 09:20:26,180 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nakakuha ang aking opisina ng kopya ng terms and conditions ng pagbibigay ng educational assistance or grants, 7473 09:20:26,200 --> 09:20:40,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa ilalim nito, mayroon pong nakasaad na subject to availability of funds, 7474 09:20:40,320 --> 09:20:43,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang pagka-receive ng educational grants. 7475 09:20:44,400 --> 09:20:54,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished sponsor, maaari bang ipaliwanag at hindi ba ito may ituturing na isang conditionality 7476 09:20:54,200 --> 09:21:00,980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na maaaring magdulot ng pagkaantala sa pagbibigay ng educational assistance? 7477 09:21:10,780 --> 09:21:16,520 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished owner, yung funds po ay nasa DBM. 7478 09:21:17,320 --> 09:21:19,360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: It's beyond OPA Pro. 7479 09:21:20,360 --> 09:21:21,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang budget niyan. 7480 09:21:21,440 --> 09:21:23,120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So nagaantay lang po. 7481 09:21:23,280 --> 09:21:23,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Although... 7482 09:21:24,200 --> 09:21:32,780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ginagawa na rin pong mga hakbang ng OPA Pro sa MOA ng State Universities. 7483 09:21:33,500 --> 09:21:38,100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: But OPA Pro is waiting for the DBM to release. 7484 09:21:40,140 --> 09:21:46,280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngunit, base nga po doon sa condition ng educational assistance na ito, 7485 09:21:46,800 --> 09:21:51,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mayroon po kasing nakalagay na subject, subject for the availability of funds. 7486 09:21:51,800 --> 09:21:53,980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano yung ibig sabihin nun? 7487 09:21:54,200 --> 09:21:58,700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi ba napondohan na ito, ngunit hindi lang nadadownload? 7488 09:21:58,880 --> 09:21:59,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yan. 7489 09:21:59,280 --> 09:22:00,620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And you are just waiting. 7490 09:22:00,760 --> 09:22:06,420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So ibig sabihin kung wala pong pondo mula sa DBM, wala rin pong mabibigay yung OPA Pro, tama po ba? 7491 09:22:06,420 --> 09:22:12,940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Hindi. Lahat naman po tayo, kahit tayo dito sa Congress, ay nakaano rin sa DBM. 7492 09:22:13,760 --> 09:22:13,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Diba? 7493 09:22:14,740 --> 09:22:16,020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So we'd like to have... 7494 09:22:18,080 --> 09:22:23,040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang ano po eh, kung pwedeng matulungan ng Kongreso, tayo ho. 7495 09:22:23,040 --> 09:22:28,720 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Baka matulungan natin ng OPA Pro na ma-release yung pondo na inaantay nila. 7496 09:22:29,180 --> 09:22:31,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, klaruhin ko lang po ha. 7497 09:22:31,020 --> 09:22:36,680 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: May budget, pero kailangan. Ang cash wala pa. 7498 09:22:37,040 --> 09:22:46,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes. Ang ibig sabihin po ng subject to availability of funds ay nagdidepende sa DBM kung kailan niya i-release sa inyo ang pondo. 7499 09:22:46,340 --> 09:22:46,540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes. 7500 09:22:46,680 --> 09:22:48,360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po. Maraming salamat po. 7501 09:22:48,360 --> 09:22:51,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Finally, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor. 7502 09:22:51,520 --> 09:22:53,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano sisiguraduhin ng OPA? 7503 09:22:53,040 --> 09:22:59,040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: OPA Pro na matatanggap ng mga scholars ang kanilang grants sa mga susunod? 7504 09:23:00,140 --> 09:23:06,180 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano ang inyong mga mechanism sa pag-i-implement ng mga scholarship program or grants na ito? 7505 09:23:06,360 --> 09:23:21,380 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Again, pingin sa kulig. Just like nung napag-usapan natin a while ago bago ng tanong, lahat ito depends sa pag-release ng pondo ng DBM. 7506 09:23:21,380 --> 09:23:22,000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes. 7507 09:23:23,040 --> 09:23:36,280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yan po nito, no, Mr. Sponsor. Ang akin lamang po ay ang katanungan ko ay particular sa OPA Pro na ano po kaya ang mekanismo ng i-implement nila para hindi na po mangyari ang mga ganito sa susunod. 7508 09:23:36,300 --> 09:23:37,140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ah, yung MOA po. 7509 09:23:37,140 --> 09:23:43,760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Alam ko na ang DBM po ang nag-re-release, ngunit on their part, ano pong ginagawa nila dito? 7510 09:23:43,760 --> 09:23:51,760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Nagkakaroon po ng tuloy-tuloy naman ang pakipag-communicate ng OPA Pro sa mga students. 7511 09:23:53,040 --> 09:23:56,560 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Office of the President and sa mga estudyante, no? 7512 09:23:58,360 --> 09:23:59,400 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige po. 7513 09:23:59,980 --> 09:24:10,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, ah, Mr. Speaker, ah, Mr. Sponsor, dadako naman po ako ngayon sa Transitional Justice and Reconciliation, yung roadmap po, no? 7514 09:24:11,740 --> 09:24:21,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ah, Distinguished Sponsor, noong August 6 to 7, nag-convene po ang GPH Implementing Panels at MILFTWG 7515 09:24:21,560 --> 09:24:30,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: on Transitional Justice and Reconciliation para i-resume ang discussion sa Transitional Justice and Reconciliation Roadmap. 7516 09:24:32,080 --> 09:24:40,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maari po bang i-enumerate ang mga jointly identified activities at priority deliverables na napagkasunduan? 7517 09:24:40,560 --> 09:24:50,560 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ah, updates on the transitional... 7518 09:24:51,560 --> 09:24:53,360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Transitional Justice, no? 7519 09:24:53,940 --> 09:24:57,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Enhancements to file bills, no? 7520 09:24:58,440 --> 09:25:09,340 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: HR and Senate was submitted to the Joint Implementing Panel by the GPH-MILFT Technical Working Group. 7521 09:25:10,360 --> 09:25:17,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Approval of the same is among the agenda in the Kuala Lumpur meeting. 7522 09:25:17,440 --> 09:25:21,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Once approved by the Joint Panel, the document... 7523 09:25:21,560 --> 09:25:30,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: We'll submit same for the proposed workshop, right shop, ah, here in the H.O.R., in the Senate, 7524 09:25:30,840 --> 09:25:50,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to harmonize proposed NTJRCE, National Transformation, National Transitional Justice Reconciliation. 7525 09:25:51,560 --> 09:25:58,660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay. Maraming salamat po. 7526 09:25:58,820 --> 09:26:04,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Babalikan ko yung sinabi niyo pong enhancement to file bills in H.O.R. and Senate. 7527 09:26:04,580 --> 09:26:13,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Alam niyo po, Mr. Sponsor, dito po sa H.O.R., kami pa lang po sa Akbayan Reform Block ang nag-file ng T.J.R., no? 7528 09:26:13,480 --> 09:26:21,180 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Siguro po, kung plano din po ito ng, o papro, enhancement to file bills on H.O.R. and Senate, 7529 09:26:21,560 --> 09:26:31,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sana po ay mas maipush ninyo pa po itong Kongreso, ang ating mga distinguished colleagues na mag-file or mag-co-author man lang po dito, no? 7530 09:26:31,700 --> 09:26:35,460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kasi hindi po, sa ngayon po, hindi po kasi yun namin nakikita. 7531 09:26:35,920 --> 09:26:42,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: We filed our bill last year, noong July pa, pero hanggang ngayon hindi pa rin po ito gumagalaw. 7532 09:26:42,440 --> 09:26:45,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: We need the oppa pro to help us on this matter as well. 7533 09:26:45,340 --> 09:26:51,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Huwag niyo pong isaalang-alang lang po dito sa Kongreso na kami lang ang gagalaw dito. 7534 09:26:51,560 --> 09:26:56,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kailangan din po namin ito kasi ito po yung continuing process ninyo po, no? 7535 09:26:56,540 --> 09:26:59,320 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, dadako naman po ako sa isa pang katanungan. 7536 09:26:59,880 --> 09:27:06,280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa mga na-identify na activities at priority deliverables ng oppa pro, 7537 09:27:07,100 --> 09:27:12,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: confirm if meron silang budget under the 2027 para rito. 7538 09:27:12,920 --> 09:27:15,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Lahat po nung nabanggit nyo kanina. 7539 09:27:21,560 --> 09:27:39,000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: For fiscal year 2027, 66 million has been allotted for the TGR aspect of the normalization program. 7540 09:27:39,000 --> 09:27:51,000 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This includes 14 million for track 1 establishment of the NTJRCB and 51 million for track 2 support. 7541 09:27:51,560 --> 09:27:55,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: To the four TGR pillars. 7542 09:27:56,940 --> 09:28:07,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This includes programs, interventions such as parcelary land inventory of the areas inside the six MIL camps, 7543 09:28:08,540 --> 09:28:18,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: engagements with both houses of Congress and key stakeholders for the passage of the NTJRCB bill 7544 09:28:18,840 --> 09:28:20,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and other interventions. 7545 09:28:21,560 --> 09:28:30,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: In pursuit of the pillars on truth, history, justice, reparations, and guarantee. 7546 09:28:31,320 --> 09:28:41,860 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: To fully deliver the commitments under the GPH-MILF-TGR roadmap, a total of 100 million is required. 7547 09:28:42,300 --> 09:28:43,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Maraming salamat po. 7548 09:28:43,260 --> 09:28:50,320 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana po ay makareceive po tayo ng updates sa mga programs and activities na ito moving forward po, no? 7549 09:28:51,560 --> 09:29:03,440 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Finally, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, ano-ano ang mga milestone or targets ng OPA-PRO in relation sa TGR roadmap para sa 2027 po? 7550 09:29:32,300 --> 09:29:34,420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Distinguished colleague, 7551 09:29:34,420 --> 09:29:38,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang approval of the NTJRCB. 7552 09:29:39,000 --> 09:29:49,900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Also, the good secretary will be meeting soon with the office of the speaker or the speaker himself 7553 09:29:49,900 --> 09:29:51,320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: in regards to TGR projects. 7554 09:29:51,560 --> 09:29:53,420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the bills that needs to be 7555 09:29:53,420 --> 09:29:55,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: after 7556 09:29:55,620 --> 09:29:57,620 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the meeting in Kuala Lumpur. 7557 09:29:58,020 --> 09:29:59,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: This is 25th. 7558 09:30:00,000 --> 09:30:11,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes, maraming salamat po. At nabalitaan ko rin na ito'y naging priority bill na rin po dito sa Kongreso. Kaya konting push na lang po mula sa OPAPRU din po. 7559 09:30:12,560 --> 09:30:27,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Anyway, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, bilang panghuling paksa na tatanungin ko po sa inyo, yung tungkol po sa Women, Peace and Security, isang katanungan na lamang po. 7560 09:30:27,800 --> 09:30:40,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished Sponsor, can you confirm kung magkano ang budget for Women, Peace and Security programs ng OPAPRU at ano-ano po ang mga programang saklaw nitong budget? 7561 09:30:42,980 --> 09:30:45,800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 12,195,000. 7562 09:30:48,320 --> 09:30:53,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano-ano po yung mga saklaw ng budget na ito, program ng mga budget? 7563 09:30:53,900 --> 09:30:56,900 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ito po, capacity building for local. 7564 09:30:57,800 --> 09:31:15,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: And international partners, collaboration, partnership and resource mobilization, localization and mainstreaming, monitoring, evaluation, accountability and learning, and unit management and administrative services. 7565 09:31:16,560 --> 09:31:17,520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 7566 09:31:17,520 --> 09:31:27,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: This representation believes that the Women, Peace and Security programs are important in ensuring meaningful representation, participation, 7567 09:31:27,800 --> 09:31:34,540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: and leadership of women across all stages of the peace process and conflict transformation. 7568 09:31:35,340 --> 09:31:42,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: In closing, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, ang aming kritikal na pagsuporta ay may kasamang hamon. 7569 09:31:43,520 --> 09:31:58,720 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Patunayan dapat ng OPAPRU na sa pamamagitan ng mabilis at tapat na serbisyo na bawat piso sa inyong budget ay tunay na napupunta sa kapakanan ng ating mga pamayanan 7570 09:31:58,720 --> 09:32:03,320 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at mga decommissioned combatants at kanilang mga pamilya. 7571 09:32:03,320 --> 09:32:19,940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa ating mga kababayan, makakaasa kayong hindi kami titigil sa pagbabantay at pagtiyak na ang mga pangakong kapayapaan ay magbubungan ng totoong sekuridad at ginhawa sa inyong pangaraw-araw na buhay. 7572 09:32:21,020 --> 09:32:21,940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 7573 09:32:21,980 --> 09:32:24,920 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Makakaasa po kayo, distinguished colleague. 7574 09:32:25,600 --> 09:32:27,700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Lalong-lalo na sa ating bagong... 7575 09:32:27,720 --> 09:32:29,700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: kalihim sa OPA-PRO 7576 09:32:29,700 --> 09:32:30,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: at kalihim 7577 09:32:30,840 --> 09:32:32,600 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Mel Sarmiento. 7578 09:32:33,240 --> 09:32:34,480 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you very much. Majority Leader. 7579 09:32:36,260 --> 09:32:36,940 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, 7580 09:32:37,400 --> 09:32:38,980 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: next to interpellate the sponsor, 7581 09:32:39,280 --> 09:32:41,360 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: I move that we recognize the Honorable 7582 09:32:41,360 --> 09:32:43,700 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Rene Luis Co. of Kabataan 7583 09:32:43,700 --> 09:32:44,320 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Partylist. 7584 09:32:45,460 --> 09:32:47,940 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Congresswoman Co. from Kabataan Partylist 7585 09:32:47,940 --> 09:32:48,660 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: is recognized. 7586 09:32:49,760 --> 09:32:51,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker, 7587 09:32:52,160 --> 09:32:54,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at magandang gabi po 7588 09:32:54,060 --> 09:32:56,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa ating distinguished sponsor. 7589 09:32:56,060 --> 09:32:58,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Magtatanong lang po tayo 7590 09:32:58,260 --> 09:32:59,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa isang 7591 09:32:59,440 --> 09:33:02,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: topic na napahapyawan 7592 09:33:02,300 --> 09:33:04,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na po, Mr. Speaker, 7593 09:33:04,440 --> 09:33:06,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng kasama po 7594 09:33:06,160 --> 09:33:08,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: natin na nagtanong 7595 09:33:08,020 --> 09:33:10,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tungkol sa kung paano 7596 09:33:10,040 --> 09:33:11,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na gagasta 7597 09:33:11,640 --> 09:33:13,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang pera na 7598 09:33:13,840 --> 09:33:15,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nakaalaan sa payapa 7599 09:33:15,840 --> 09:33:17,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at masaganang pamayanan program 7600 09:33:17,700 --> 09:33:20,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or ang pamana, but in particular 7601 09:33:20,280 --> 09:33:21,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung educational assistance. 7602 09:33:22,660 --> 09:33:23,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 7603 09:33:23,840 --> 09:33:25,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mangingi lang po tayo ng dagdag 7604 09:33:25,800 --> 09:33:27,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na impormasyon at 7605 09:33:27,720 --> 09:33:30,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: klerifikasyon dahil kita natin 7606 09:33:30,020 --> 09:33:32,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na for this 2027 7607 09:33:32,040 --> 09:33:33,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 6.09 7608 09:33:33,900 --> 09:33:35,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: billion pesos ang nakalaan dito 7609 09:33:35,980 --> 09:33:37,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 3.76 7610 09:33:37,760 --> 09:33:39,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: billion o lampas kalahati 7611 09:33:39,580 --> 09:33:41,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng pamana ay para sa kalsada. 7612 09:33:42,240 --> 09:33:43,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Susundan na po siya ng educational 7613 09:33:43,560 --> 09:33:45,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: assistance na 807 million, 7614 09:33:46,160 --> 09:33:47,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: community infrastructure na 7615 09:33:47,700 --> 09:33:49,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 377 million, 7616 09:33:50,320 --> 09:33:51,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bridge na 7617 09:33:51,360 --> 09:33:53,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 375 million at social protection 7618 09:33:53,920 --> 09:33:55,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na 258 million. 7619 09:33:55,800 --> 09:33:57,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 7620 09:33:58,280 --> 09:33:59,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang tanong natin, 7621 09:33:59,580 --> 09:34:01,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi ba redundant o duplication ito 7622 09:34:01,860 --> 09:34:03,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dahil may mga programa 7623 09:34:03,440 --> 09:34:06,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng ganito sa ibang mga ahensya 7624 09:34:06,000 --> 09:34:07,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na may pangunahing mandato 7625 09:34:07,860 --> 09:34:09,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa pagbibigay ng servisyo? 7626 09:34:18,240 --> 09:34:19,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Yes, 7627 09:34:19,660 --> 09:34:21,420 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: distinguished colleague, 7628 09:34:22,100 --> 09:34:23,820 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: hindi po, ano, dahil 7629 09:34:23,820 --> 09:34:25,400 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: lang, kainang 7630 09:34:25,800 --> 09:34:27,060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: sabi natin kanina 7631 09:34:27,060 --> 09:34:28,500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ang 7632 09:34:28,500 --> 09:34:31,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: na-endorse po na target 7633 09:34:31,240 --> 09:34:31,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: areas 7634 09:34:31,960 --> 09:34:35,780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to validation of 7635 09:34:35,780 --> 09:34:37,180 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: projects, the pamana 7636 09:34:37,180 --> 09:34:39,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and PMO ensure 7637 09:34:39,240 --> 09:34:41,020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: no duplication 7638 09:34:41,020 --> 09:34:43,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and the target specifically 7639 09:34:43,080 --> 09:34:45,320 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the projects and the project 7640 09:34:45,320 --> 09:34:46,660 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: location endorse. 7641 09:34:49,220 --> 09:34:49,520 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: At saka, 7642 09:34:49,740 --> 09:34:51,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: ito po yung, if I may, 7643 09:34:52,180 --> 09:34:53,220 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: the parameters 7644 09:34:55,800 --> 09:34:58,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: within the, within peace and 7645 09:34:58,460 --> 09:35:01,080 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: development areas conflict affected, 7646 09:35:01,080 --> 09:35:04,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: conflict, vulnerable and geographically 7647 09:35:04,840 --> 09:35:08,120 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: isolated and disadvantaged areas 7648 09:35:08,120 --> 09:35:11,700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and their adjacent areas endorsed 7649 09:35:11,700 --> 09:35:14,140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: by the peace tables through the 7650 09:35:14,140 --> 09:35:17,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: processes of their respective mechanisms. 7651 09:35:17,880 --> 09:35:21,260 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Implementation ready for DBM policies, 7652 09:35:21,260 --> 09:35:25,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: guidelines arising from budget goals. 7653 09:35:25,800 --> 09:35:28,140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Eligible projects per pamana. 7654 09:35:28,140 --> 09:35:30,940 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Pramanang manual of operations. 7655 09:35:30,940 --> 09:35:33,300 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Table three, eligible 7656 09:35:33,300 --> 09:35:35,760 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: and knowledgeable interventions. 7657 09:35:36,320 --> 09:35:38,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Eligible implementing partner 7658 09:35:38,480 --> 09:35:40,740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: as guided by pamana manual 7659 09:35:40,740 --> 09:35:42,700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: of operation M stable 7660 09:35:42,700 --> 09:35:45,040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: five guide in determining 7661 09:35:45,040 --> 09:35:47,360 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: implementing partners. 7662 09:35:47,360 --> 09:35:49,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 7663 09:35:49,380 --> 09:35:51,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na lang din po tayong ng kopya ng manual 7664 09:35:51,640 --> 09:35:53,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At ng mga Sinambit po 7665 09:35:53,540 --> 09:35:55,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Informasyon At kasama na rin po, 7666 09:35:55,560 --> 09:35:57,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: rin po yung mga ulat na gusto 7667 09:35:57,120 --> 09:35:59,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: natin at 7668 09:35:59,120 --> 09:36:01,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na-mention 7669 09:36:01,420 --> 09:36:03,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng ating 7670 09:36:03,060 --> 09:36:05,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: distinguished sponsors sa 7671 09:36:05,120 --> 09:36:06,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: interpellation kanina ng 7672 09:36:06,400 --> 09:36:08,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kasama natin dito sa minority. 7673 09:36:09,320 --> 09:36:11,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero ang I share 7674 09:36:11,140 --> 09:36:13,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the observation na 7675 09:36:13,340 --> 09:36:15,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron pong mga ahensya 7676 09:36:15,380 --> 09:36:17,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ang 7677 09:36:17,200 --> 09:36:18,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: primary mandate na nila ay ang 7678 09:36:18,960 --> 09:36:20,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: delivery ng services na 7679 09:36:20,240 --> 09:36:22,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: minimension. Bagamat may standards, 7680 09:36:23,100 --> 09:36:24,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bagamat may sinasabing 7681 09:36:24,880 --> 09:36:26,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: paraan para 7682 09:36:26,780 --> 09:36:28,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: i-vet ang pananaw po ng 7683 09:36:28,500 --> 09:36:30,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: representasyon na ito ay 7684 09:36:30,380 --> 09:36:32,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dapat i-direction na ang mga pondong ito 7685 09:36:32,900 --> 09:36:34,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga ahensya 7686 09:36:34,740 --> 09:36:36,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ang pinaka-primary 7687 09:36:36,900 --> 09:36:38,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang gawain ay yung 7688 09:36:38,080 --> 09:36:40,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pagtawid ng mga servisyon na ito. 7689 09:36:40,760 --> 09:36:42,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonetheless, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 7690 09:36:42,660 --> 09:36:43,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: narinig ko naman na din po 7691 09:36:43,840 --> 09:36:46,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang sagot sa nakaraang 7692 09:36:46,880 --> 09:36:48,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: interpellation. Pupunta na lang po 7693 09:36:48,720 --> 09:36:50,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa susunod kong tanong, Mr. Speaker, 7694 09:36:50,880 --> 09:36:52,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor. Tungkol din po 7695 09:36:52,700 --> 09:36:54,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ito sa educational assistance 7696 09:36:54,340 --> 09:36:56,460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na sa ilalim ng pamana inalaan 7697 09:36:56,460 --> 09:36:58,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga SUCs and LUCs. 7698 09:36:58,840 --> 09:37:00,460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mula sa 2026, consistent 7699 09:37:00,460 --> 09:37:03,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na 807,500,000 7700 09:37:03,420 --> 09:37:04,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng pondo para rito. 7701 09:37:05,360 --> 09:37:06,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Parehong budget rin ang nakalaan 7702 09:37:06,760 --> 09:37:07,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para sa 2027. 7703 09:37:08,560 --> 09:37:10,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ngayong 2026, saan 7704 09:37:10,720 --> 09:37:13,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: saan napunta itong 807,000,000 7705 09:37:13,120 --> 09:37:14,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: educational assistance? 7706 09:37:14,960 --> 09:37:16,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ilan ang mga beneficaryo nito? 7707 09:37:17,140 --> 09:37:18,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At may ibang pamana 7708 09:37:18,280 --> 09:37:19,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: EAP beneficiaries pa ba? 7709 09:37:20,400 --> 09:37:22,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Bukod sa former MILF and 7710 09:37:22,260 --> 09:37:23,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: MNLF combatants. 7711 09:37:24,340 --> 09:37:28,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sa 7712 09:37:32,280 --> 09:37:32,840 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: sa 7713 09:37:32,840 --> 09:37:34,500 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: sa 7714 09:37:34,500 --> 09:37:36,060 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: GPH MILF 7715 09:37:36,060 --> 09:37:36,800 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace process, 7716 09:37:37,340 --> 09:37:38,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 12,100. 7717 09:37:39,880 --> 09:37:42,100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Sa GPH MLF 7718 09:37:42,100 --> 09:37:43,640 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: peace process, again, 7719 09:37:44,440 --> 09:37:45,700 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: 686. 7720 09:37:45,940 --> 09:37:48,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: A total of 16,150. 7721 09:37:48,280 --> 09:37:52,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Hingi na lang din po kami 7722 09:37:52,280 --> 09:37:54,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng kopya ng report. 7723 09:37:54,340 --> 09:38:02,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I-report na ito, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, na i-bibigay sa plenaryo at sa representasyong ito. 7724 09:38:03,220 --> 09:38:07,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And para sa 2027, saan-saang lugar ang target nito? 7725 09:38:07,800 --> 09:38:10,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano rin po ang disbursement nito sa beneficiaries? 7726 09:38:10,780 --> 09:38:15,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Direkta ba nila itong natatanggap o sa SUCLUC na ito diretsyong napupunta? 7727 09:38:16,020 --> 09:38:19,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hindi ba isa rin ito sa maituturing na redundant na programa? 7728 09:38:24,340 --> 09:38:42,540 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: So, SUCs are, may MOA ang SUCs, and these are, ang SUCs ang nagbibigay sa mga students, no? 7729 09:38:42,700 --> 09:38:46,740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: The amount, 25,000 per semester. 7730 09:38:47,580 --> 09:38:52,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat po sa pagsagot at hingin na lang din po tayo ng ating, 7731 09:38:52,380 --> 09:38:58,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ah, report tungkol sa anong SUCs ang nakakatanggap po nito. 7732 09:38:58,700 --> 09:39:05,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero ang paghawak pa rin ng pagtingin ng representasyong ito ay nababahala tayo 7733 09:39:05,700 --> 09:39:11,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dahil ang pamana program ng OPAPRU ay ginagamit para sa mga diumanoy rebel returnees. 7734 09:39:11,960 --> 09:39:15,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May mga natanggap na din tayong reports na ginagamit ang pamana program 7735 09:39:15,440 --> 09:39:22,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para sa fake surrenderies o peking pagpapasuko sa mga aktivista na pinapalabas na report. 7736 09:39:22,380 --> 09:39:22,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, ito ay mga rebelde. 7737 09:39:23,340 --> 09:39:29,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maaaring gamitin din ng 807 million educational assistants sa mga SUCs at LUCs 7738 09:39:29,300 --> 09:39:34,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para hadlangan ang mga estudyante yung nagpapahayag ng kanilang kritisismo at aktivismo 7739 09:39:34,360 --> 09:39:36,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at sabihin sila ay mga rebelde. 7740 09:39:37,040 --> 09:39:40,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonetheless, Madam Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Good Sponsor, 7741 09:39:40,420 --> 09:39:44,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hingin na lang po tayo ng ating additional information para po ma-check, no, 7742 09:39:44,800 --> 09:39:47,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung kamusta po ang implementasyon ng programang ito. 7743 09:39:47,280 --> 09:39:51,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang huling mga seri ng tanong ko, Mr. Speaker, Good Sponsor, 7744 09:39:51,740 --> 09:39:52,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay tungkol naman. 7745 09:39:52,380 --> 09:39:56,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At tungkol naman po sa pagiging chair ng OPAPRU 7746 09:39:56,180 --> 09:40:01,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa National Steering Committee on Women, Peace, and Security. 7747 09:40:01,760 --> 09:40:07,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kaugnay nito, naglunsad ang OPAPRU ng konsultasyon sa iba't ibang bahagi ng Pilipinas. 7748 09:40:08,020 --> 09:40:11,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maaari bang makahingi ng ulat mula sa mga nasabing konsultasyon? 7749 09:40:22,380 --> 09:40:44,100 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: At ito po ang mga accomplishments na nagawa sa WPSCOE. 7750 09:40:44,100 --> 09:40:51,160 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Ang mga na-achieve so far, integration into the comprehensive peace process and localization. 7751 09:40:52,380 --> 09:40:56,040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: WPS localization funds. 7752 09:40:58,020 --> 09:41:04,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Women, peace, security localization funds accessed by 18 provinces. 7753 09:41:05,820 --> 09:41:14,240 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Car provinces have draft local action plans with issued resolution to regal QUESTION, 7754 09:41:15,180 --> 09:41:22,020 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: RGADC Region 5 with technical working group on WPS communication, 7755 09:41:22,380 --> 09:41:37,200 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: RGA-DC, Region 11, with existing local action plan, City Government of Kawayan, Isabela, Valencia, Bukidnon, have draft resolution. 7756 09:41:37,200 --> 09:41:53,280 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Nueva Vizcaya, Quirino, Nueva Ecija, have WPS integrated in their transformation program plan. 7757 09:41:54,000 --> 09:41:59,140 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Agusan del Sur, launch IP Women WPS agenda. 7758 09:42:07,200 --> 09:42:35,960 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Institutions, civil society organizations, both local and international, both sharing the WPS focal points network with Italy in 2026, coinciding the network's 10th year participation as part of the field deal in the 2026 Committee on the Status of Women in the UN. 7759 09:42:37,200 --> 09:42:55,740 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Capacity Development for National and International Partners, mainstreaming on NAP WPS across the country through capacity development by stakeholders with whole of society's scope. 7760 09:42:55,740 --> 09:43:07,040 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: TAP, a resource speaker in international women's security trainings in Papua New Guinea, Hawaii. 7761 09:43:07,200 --> 09:43:17,440 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Jamaica and Southeast Asia through the ASEAN IPR NAP Academy. 7762 09:43:17,440 --> 09:43:38,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat. Pwede rin pong humingi na lang din po tayo, besides din po sa paglalatag ng mga naiabot ng konsultasyon, ay may mahabang ulat na maaari ding maibahagi. Kung maaari po, ay hihingi po tayo ng kopya ng report 7763 09:43:38,060 --> 09:43:55,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng consultations sa regions tungkol po sa Women, Peace, and Security na naisagawa ng OPAPRU. Maaari po bang [unclear] siya, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? Tatanungin din po natin kung publicly available na po ba itong report na ito. 7764 09:44:09,960 --> 09:44:12,460 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Your Honor, can we provide copy? 7765 09:44:12,460 --> 09:44:59,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes po. Hihingi na lang po, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, ng kopya ng mga ulat ng mga naabot ng konsultasyon ng OPAPRU sa mga rehiyon sa agenda po ng Women, Peace, and Security. At sa huling manifestation natin, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, naiulat sa atin kung ano po ang naaabot sa pagdala ng Women, Peace and Security agenda ng OPAPRU: empowerment and participation, prevention of violence and protection of women and girls in crisis and conflict, gender mainstreaming. Hindi po natin mapagkakaila na nakikita sa Pilipinas ang disturbing trend 7766 09:45:00,000 --> 09:45:03,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of militarization and violence affecting women. 7767 09:45:03,660 --> 09:45:09,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang bilang ng mga biktima ng iba't-ibang paglabag sa karapatang pantao mula noong naupo 7768 09:45:09,300 --> 09:45:14,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: si Pangulong Marcos Jr. noong 2022, ubabot na po sa mga milyon. 7769 09:45:14,880 --> 09:45:20,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kabilang dito ay pananakot, harassment, sapilitang paglikas, pambobomba at iba pa. 7770 09:45:21,040 --> 09:45:26,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nasa 755 ang bilanggong politikal sa iba't-ibang pasilidad sa buong Pilipinas, 7771 09:45:26,880 --> 09:45:34,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung saan 103 sa kanila ay inaresto sa ilalim ng panunungkulan ng kasulukuyang administrasyon. 7772 09:45:35,440 --> 09:45:42,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mula rito, 147 ay kababaihan at mahigit kalahati ay mga magsasaka. 7773 09:45:42,960 --> 09:45:50,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron ding 21 na kababaihan na biktima ng extrajudicial killings at 4 na kaso ng enforced disappearances. 7774 09:45:50,640 --> 09:45:53,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Patuloy pa rin ang paghingi ng hustisya para sa mga comfort women, 7775 09:45:53,880 --> 09:45:56,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga biktima ng military sexual violence, 7776 09:45:56,880 --> 09:45:58,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: noong panahon ng hapon. 7777 09:45:58,880 --> 09:46:02,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang paglaganap ng EDCA sites sa iba't-ibang bahagi ng Pilipinas 7778 09:46:02,880 --> 09:46:09,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at ang tuloy-tuloy na joint military exercises sa U.S. at iba pang bansa ay patuloy na banta, 7779 09:46:09,880 --> 09:46:15,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi lang sa siguridad, kundi nagiging vulnerable din ang mga kababaihan sa seksual na obuso 7780 09:46:15,880 --> 09:46:18,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at napatunayan na ito ng kasaysayan. 7781 09:46:18,880 --> 09:46:25,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang mga isyong nabanggit ang nais nating ilagay sa liwanag sa usapin ng Women, Peace and Security. 7782 09:46:26,880 --> 09:46:33,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Dahil we are aware of the four pillars ng Philippine National Action Plan on Women, Peace and Security, 7783 09:46:33,880 --> 09:46:41,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa tingin po natin ang mga nabanggit ay hindi pa po nakakasama doon sa nalalatag sa iba't-ibang mga gawain ng OPAPRU. 7784 09:46:41,880 --> 09:46:45,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kaya naman po, continuously, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, 7785 09:46:45,880 --> 09:46:55,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd like to manifest that we reject the use of women's bodies and communities as collateral in military alliances and war economies. 7786 09:46:55,880 --> 09:47:02,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, hintayin na lang po natin ang mga ulat na nirequest ng kinatawan na ito. 7787 09:47:02,880 --> 09:47:06,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But for now, maraming salamat sa mga pagsagot sa tanong natin. 7788 09:47:06,880 --> 09:47:11,630 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I yield to the floor my remaining time, Mr. Speaker. 7789 09:47:11,640 --> 09:47:14,830 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you very much, Majority Leader. 7790 09:47:14,840 --> 09:47:24,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Before that, Mr. Speaker, the OPAPRU wish to extend an invitation to the honorable members of this House, 7791 09:47:25,880 --> 09:47:36,880 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: to OPAP office for more briefing with regards to women, peace, security. 7792 09:47:36,880 --> 09:47:38,780 Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 7793 09:47:38,780 --> 09:47:40,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Salamat po, Mr. Sponsor. 7794 09:47:40,300 --> 09:47:42,560 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Thank you very much, Majority Leader. 7795 09:47:42,880 --> 09:47:51,880 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, next to interpellate the sponsor, I move that we recognize the honorable Presley C. De Jesus of Philreca Partylist. 7796 09:47:51,880 --> 09:47:54,880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The gentleman from Philreca Partylist, honorable Presley De Jesus. 7797 09:47:55,880 --> 09:47:57,880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Recognize. 7798 09:47:57,880 --> 09:48:06,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, there being no more members of the minority who wish to interpellate, 7799 09:48:06,880 --> 09:48:17,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate the sponsorship and debate on the budget of OPAPRU. 7800 09:48:17,880 --> 09:48:21,880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Before I call the majority, thank you. 7801 09:48:21,880 --> 09:48:24,880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Before I call the majority, please be reminded, the Vice Chair Joboy, 7802 09:48:24,880 --> 09:48:31,880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: and the Department of the requested documents and promised documents to those who ask. 7803 09:48:31,880 --> 09:48:34,880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Majority Leader, what does the House say? 7804 09:48:34,880 --> 09:48:41,880 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellation 7805 09:48:41,880 --> 09:48:50,400 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: on the proposed budget of the Office of the Presidential Advisor on Peace, Reconciliation, and Unity. 7806 09:48:50,400 --> 09:48:53,880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellation of the proposed budget of the OPAPRU. 7807 09:48:54,880 --> 09:48:57,880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Is there any objection? 7808 09:48:57,880 --> 09:48:58,880 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: There is none. 7809 09:48:58,880 --> 09:49:11,520 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: The interpellation of the proposed budget of the Office of the Presidential Advisor on Peace, Reconciliation, and Unity is hereby terminated. 7810 09:49:11,520 --> 09:49:13,800 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Congratulations. 7811 09:49:13,800 --> 09:49:17,790 Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai: Mr. Speaker, I move that we suspend for a few minutes. 7812 09:49:17,800 --> 09:49:21,160 Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano: Session suspended.